Castle Super Beast - CSB 010: My Youthful Soul Is Filled With B*tch

Episode Date: March 19, 2019

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Starting point is 00:00:49 So, every other week, Bobby invites guests to talk about the Netflix shows and films they're most obsessed with in this new podcast, I'm Obsessed With This. Tune in to hear about the most binge-worthy shows like Russian Doll or Sex Education and subscribe to I'm Obsessed With This on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you find podcasts. The hardest to cover film. Oh, yeah. The hardest to cover film. But you know what? What's that? I'm clean. You're clean. I'm clean. You're pure. You're simple and clean. I'm sober. I'm two weeks, two weeks clean and sober. No, I am clean on DMC spoilers, so stop it. Yep, stop it. That's it. Haven't beat the game yet. I'm doing it for you. I'm doing it for you. For you. I'm doing it for
Starting point is 00:02:11 you. It's doing it for you. So, be cool. Yeah, man. Okay? That's all we're gonna say. It's not all we're gonna say. Yeah. But we're gonna talk for like a couple hours. Yeah, yeah. The funnest possible, like, type of spoiler hit my stream on Saturday where someone just donated and dropped a fire ass William Blake quote. Oh, it's poetry. And I was like poetry. God, fuck, that's odd. Oh, it took a second. No bad poetry. Yeah. And then I did a little Google search on it and it was like, oh, man. Yeah, that's absolutely. See, that's the part that you can't do because if like, whenever that drops on me or people are just like, hey, you know, so and so whatever, I just like, I just pretend they're trying to fuck with me, man. But somebody,
Starting point is 00:03:01 the problem was that someone went, that's not from it, the game. And then I was like, are you sure? And then they're like, no, it's not. Yes, it is. But and then I was like, let me just and of course, it is. Yes. But I was like, oh, fuck, that's fire. So all that to say, yeah, we're gonna get back to it. But I've stayed cold and clean. And as I mentioned it on my stream, but you know, obviously, there's a lot of people that didn't hear that. So I'm gonna mention it here. If I blocked you recently, it's because you tweeted spoilers at me and you're on probation. And, you know, it might not it might have just been out of hype. You might have gotten excited and not considered it. Maybe you didn't hear me say that I didn't beat the game yet. Maybe you're not paying attention.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Nonetheless, I'm gonna block you. And when I beat the game, I'll unblock you. Yeah. But for now, you're out. I've had this happen in the recent past. And I take it a different approach. I take the approach of what are you doing? What do you do? What were you thinking? What were you thinking? And you know, universally, it comes back. Oh, no. Oh, fuck. And it's like, what are you doing? Yeah, what are you doing? Yeah, it sucks that Twitter is the kind of format that is really not great for keeping people up to date on details that you need to stay in their consciousness. Yeah, because if you tweet it and it goes out and that X people see it, they're all that have seen it. Yeah. And no one's going to go back to check before they retweet you something that you've already retweeted.
Starting point is 00:04:31 So last night, there was a guy I was laughing because like, I get it. I was talking about concentrating items and games how to do too much. And the guy wrote, don't do it. Then you idiot, lol. And then he wrote neck with one second later, don't do it. Then you dummy, lol. And then I clicked on the phone and it was gone. But it's like, but they show up. I see it. I can see it. It doesn't hurt my feeling. That's why you call me to do all you want. But like, imagine that was like, Hey, did you know that Jesus dies in the Bible or whatever? And they're like, Oh, Oh crap. Um, there's a big character moment at the at the middle part of the New Testament. It's like, but I've seen it. Yeah. I mean, I we've laughed it in a bunch of times because it's
Starting point is 00:05:22 so foreign to me because I've never been so excited at a thing that my first reaction was to like, call up my friend and just tell him what happened. Yeah, you know, or or tweet or our text rather. You know, like someone's and just be like, and just get right into it. Like so I was in a situation with mission 12. I beat mission 12, like eight days before release. And was like, who? Who? Yeah, who do I? Who do I actually talk to? And so I'm like, do you have a review? You do have a review copy. Okay, right, right. Oh, did you get up to that mission? No. Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, come on. Um, yeah, even even casual friend discussion has like, it was it was fine in the end, but like, like someone that I was chatting with about the game
Starting point is 00:06:21 was just kind of like throwing stuff out there and like mentioned like an SDT, you know, type of thing. And I was like, you cleared that by one session by one by one moment. Yeah, you cleared that that hurdle bar by one, you know, but anyway, you can't listen, you can't unsee it. Just how you can never go back in time and see Harry without erectile dysfunction or Grindelwald and Dumbledore eating each other's butts every day. Have you been keeping up with this shit? Oh, you mean the funniest thing that's ever happened? Oh, you mean about how the wizards of Hogwarts side with Palestine? Oh my god, it's so funny. What is JK Rowling doing? What are you doing? I know exactly what she's doing. Do you know what she's doing?
Starting point is 00:07:15 What? She wrote a book in the 90s that wasn't as woke as she is now. I and she feels bad because there are almost no people of color. There's no gay people in those stories, etc, etc. No Asians. Wait, there's that one. There's the one. Where's the other one? She's a snake. Oh, no. Right. But like she's going like I saw I saw the actual best tweet about this was like, oh, Dumbledore loved cock. He loved it so much every day in his mouth. Can he hold hands with a dude in the movie? No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then like, yeah, there is definitely that whole bit where it's like, okay, I guess it's not on camera then. But the there's a whole lot of there's an article that
Starting point is 00:08:04 was just like, I forgot the title of it was something just along the lines of like, here's a list of things no one wanted to know about Harry Potter characters. It's huge. It's enormous. It's so big, you know, starting with the the shitting themselves where they stand. And all I can think of is this is a completely modern invention. J. R. R. Tolkien. Like how would you get his thoughts on the book? You'd have to have the BBC or some shit go interview him. And then what would they talk about? Oh, the writing problem. What? Where'd you get the language thing? Right. And now he's dead. So it's like good. Okay, but George R. R. Martin is your closest equivalent. Well, yeah, except no, that's the
Starting point is 00:08:41 opposite. Because finish the fucking book, you all bastards. Because there's that. Tell us anything. There's that. That Conan sketch, man. That God that there's a Conan sketch of like, we've installed security cameras in George R. R. Martin's house. And like, let's shoot, let's let's check it. We can check it at any time during the show to see what he's up to. And it's just here's George R. R. Martin jumping on a trampoline. Here's George R. R. Martin doing headstands and like, literally doing anything but writing the book. And it's just a look alike doing a bunch of mundane, stupid, random, time wasting activities. And he's just and the book is sitting on a table and he refuses to go right. It's it's I got. Hey, let me ask you
Starting point is 00:09:25 because this is a more interesting question to me where it's like, George R. R. Martin does not have the responsibility to write a book for you. He wrote he wrote those four or five. What are they at five now books? Maybe six of swords, right for crows. Game of Thrones. And you bought those books knowing that that book was part of whatever and you bought it. And that's the, you know, transaction completed, essentially, and that to get frustrated with the man for not writing more of the book is title is entitled. Yeah. How do you feel about that argument or or or point of view? Um, I feel that like it is an artist's choice. It is any artist's prerogative to decide whether or not they want to make more of a thing, right? Because you don't know what's going on with
Starting point is 00:10:19 them and what's going on and their motivations and reasons or whatever the case is. I think a van Gellion proved to us that don't force them to keep working if they don't want to keep doing an artist is allowed to tap out where he feels like tapping out because if he doesn't tap out, he'll make you tap out. Yeah. That's basically your thesis statement, right? This is this is for you. No, this is for me. Oh, but I thought it was for me. Yeah, but it wasn't okay. But I really wish it was for me. So all that to say that like, you never know if like, maybe maybe the person that made something incredibly amazing that you're super into is like agonizing making it. Yeah. Right. In which case they're like, this is unhealthy. I need to
Starting point is 00:11:06 stop. You know, maybe it's just like vagabond where whatever that sad story is, you know, but nonetheless, that's basically what it was. It was he's just like, I can't, you know, but I feel that like as a as the fans, like you, yeah, you're it's understandable that it ends prematurely and you're like, God damn it, I want to know what's going on. But the final say is in the creator's hands. They get to so I agree with everything you said. And I only want to add one thing that kind of leaves me on the opposite end of the argument. And it's I personally believe and whether or not this is going to come down to personal, you know, taste or opinion, that when you write or produce or whatever something and you tell people that it's going to be X
Starting point is 00:12:02 thing and it will have a conclusion that you have entered into a social contract with the people who buy the first one, that there will be an end to the story because you told them there would be if you announce that there would be. Well, I mean, he said, I think it's book one of seven, like way back. Okay, but Shenmue was game one of 14. Yeah, or chapter one of 14. And they failed us every day since Shenmue two came out. So right. But you know what I mean, right? Like if I go, I am going to beat this game on stream and then fall off it for whatever, right? That sucks. Is that a disaster? No, because he gives a shit about my pissant thing. But this is like dude, I read Game of Thrones one when I think I was in fucking elementary school,
Starting point is 00:12:57 which was way too graphic and fucked for me to be reading at that. But whatever. Imagine had I been like a diehard and kept every up to every like I would be insufferable on this conversation. We've had we've had the version of this before where it's like, would do you prefer the thing to just end in the middle or to get a rushed shitty bad end that does actually close out the story, which is better as somebody who likes berserk. I'd prefer to end badly and then I can just head cannon a better ending in my head for a decade. Rather than it. I think the worst thing that can happen with story is for it to just fizzle out. It kills me. Because like I can, okay, take this for a cent, take full metal alchemist, right? I can't stand the original
Starting point is 00:13:50 fucking anime run full of metal alchemist, because I think all sorts of stupid fucking shit happened. But at least he gave me the ability to go. Well, I would have done this better. Or I would have changed this, right? Yeah, or I don't like how that happened. I can at least talk about it. And then Brotherhood comes out like, Oh, yeah, that's how I would, how I would do it because I'm so smart. But you know what I mean, right? Yeah. And it is irrational. But I understand like, because I see George R Martin, like he'll do a talk show, he'll do a convention, he'll do this, he'll do that, he'll give the TV rights to the thing, and he'll do anything other than the only thing people care about.
Starting point is 00:14:31 And I don't mean leisure wise, right? If he said, fuck y'all, I'm off to a tropical island, I'm out. Yeah, who's gonna, who's gonna bust his balls? So like, you know, I touched it before, but like Vagabond is excruciating. It's excruciating because it's like, that thing had a clear buildup to a confrontation that we'll never see. And like, the whole story, seeing as it's based on a book that was written and like, you can play this all out or whatever, is meant to show you like, it basically gives you, there's a point where the story cuts in and shows you gives you a second protagonist. And then you literally spend entire volumes following a second protagonist. And then it's
Starting point is 00:15:23 going to show you the confrontation of the two, right? So imagine if you're playing DMC4, and then like, instead of the Dante-Nero fight switching off to Dante, the Dante-Nero fight was at the end of both, right? And then we build up all of Dante's missions and all of Neera's missions. Then you get the mission 18 and the game's done. And then you never find out, right? So it's fucking excruciating and it sucks. And like, the fact that he had to kind of have this show mural thing where he's like, here's a glimpse of some moments in the future, but we'll never quite see them. Like, I guess I've in my heart kind of just laid it to rest and let it die. But I don't, like, if it came out and he just, or if he handed it off to
Starting point is 00:16:12 someone that just did napkin scribbles, and fucking- Hand it off to one. And then, are you sure? Right, exactly. And then he just did napkin scribbles and just went, and then they fought, and then it was over by, you know, that would ruin it because it's unarguably a part of the story, as opposed to the trail off, which could then, you could have a spiritual pickup somewhere, you could have someone come along and be like, I've decided to create a second series where this is what it would be, or, you know what I mean? You can do all kinds of things after the fact, but if it's officially included and it's garbage,
Starting point is 00:16:54 that would have been worse. I'm gonna, I'm gonna cement that feeling. I think, I think, I think I just clicked in my head as to what the problem is for me personally. If George R. R. Martin came out and said, dudes, I'm tired, I'm not gonna finish the books, all of my irrational resentment and whatever would immediately fade away. It'd be like, yeah, man, you gotta do you, you gotta live your life, you're old, maybe you don't want to write books anymore, whatever. But that's not gonna happen. What about if Gabin said that? About what? About what else? Oh, right, that thing that's been dead for decades? Yeah, yeah. Officially. Having Mark Laidlaw come out and be like eight, nine years
Starting point is 00:17:41 after the last thing of like, yeah, we're still working on it and be like, yeah, it's fucking dead and I'm quitting because it's fucking dead. Here's what it would have been. And then have radio fucking silence from Valve was the worst possible thing that could have happened. Like, I'm really, really glad we got that stuff. But that was the actual worst. Because if you ask them about it, they'll still be like, yeah, we're thinking about just fuck you, you're not, you are not. Just tell us it's canceled. Just say it's fucking canceled. Do you think it's so far? Fuck. That they can't. Do you think it's like the buildup is too intense that you can't cancel it now so that you can get bad press for a week? Right? Like why? Why bother? Yeah. It's nothing to gain.
Starting point is 00:18:28 It's pointless. Everything to lose. Like, it's it's like, it just all it does is it bookends something for people. But it doesn't give you any you get no benefits whatsoever. Other than the people that are going to be mad at you for the rest of their lives over this, like, I mean, it's a video game. Right? How important could it be? Like, think about it from a strictly business perspective, right? Cancelations aren't announced because they bring closure to a project. They're announced because they need you to know where this thing is going or not going so that you don't ask about it forever and get upset when it doesn't happen. Well, Valve is doing a great job of not listening to anybody ask them about anything, but they don't have to. They're Valve.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Yeah. They found they found a golden ticket right up right up until European and North American governments start going. What are you selling on this door? What is that? Pardon? Excuse me. And then I believe there's that other stuff where they wasn't it wasn't there like the the remake or something that they handed off to like a like a fan group? They officially endorsed the hunt for the Freeman, which is like a pile of shit. Okay. Right. Well, so like, I don't even know anymore. Well, anyway, um, yeah, if you know, all people want to like, I feel like people want closure more than they want an ending to the story. People want to stop wondering if the story is going to end and would rather just be told that it's over and that it won't finish. The other option, of course,
Starting point is 00:19:57 in all these cases is to just have a script come out, which Game of Thrones isn't a really bizarre place because of that, because the TV producers are a lot more persuasive than we are. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. It's that season's happening. There is it. There is a proper nightmare where the only ending like to people who you know, there are people like, I'm a book fan, I don't care about the TV show. Yeah, but it only ends in the TV show. Yeah, that's like the worst. Well, you brought up full metal and like, I haven't watched Brotherhood. You read the manga? Yeah. Yeah. And I watched the original series. So that's one of those things. Yeah. Like, I don't think I've had this discussion, I think with Austin, like a couple of days ago or whatever, but like, it was just one of those,
Starting point is 00:20:43 like I know and I've been told by everyone how awesome Brotherhood is. And so because of that, on a curiosity, I will eventually go check it out. It's just a really good adaptation on manga. But you have to understand, I've done this story twice already. And I've done it like fully, you know. And like, it was a very short period of time for this reboot to happen, because I was knee deep in the original Full Metal Alchemist and then Conqueror of Shambhala and then even the little four minute outro thing that happens in the real world. And then I was super duper deep into that manga for a while. And I was like, okay, cool. Those are what the differences are. Got it. That's why they made their ending here. And then they animate that it's other and then it splits
Starting point is 00:21:30 off pretty early. And then yeah. And then Brotherhood was an attempt to reanimate the corrected original manga sequence. And I'm like, okay, but I've already done a lot of this. I kind of don't need Edward Elwik and Alphons right now. Yeah, I've had a whole lot of that. Yeah. And I'm good, you know. But it was great for people that had never, ever seen any Full Metal Alchemist, right? If it was all new to you. Yeah, Brotherhood is a fantastic place. I was in the weirdest place ever with that where I was reading the manga and I caught up to the manga. Right. Like I caught up to the manga around the time when they meet Father for the first time. And I'm like, well, shit's over. I'm like, oh, there's an anime. Cool. I'll watch that. Yeah. And like I'm halfway
Starting point is 00:22:13 through it. I'm like, what? Yeah. Because I didn't know I didn't know what the fuck is this. And it like, I cannot enjoy that thing on its own terms. Like it's fucked. And it's super easy to forget that like we were in college when we were watching the original and a bunch of people that are just out of high school, entering college now. Of course, Watch Brotherhood are getting yeah. And it's like, this is for the new one. Okay, cool. The manga is fantastic. And there's some amazing like art and panel work in there. Yeah. But like, I mean, it's anime, just watch the anime. But I realized after a certain point that I was like, a lot of the folks that are kind of going like, dude, you really need to get on Brotherhood. It's like, you were five when the original was
Starting point is 00:22:56 out. And I read it. You might not have caught that. Yeah. But I did and it's okay. And I know this is better. And you know what I'm different. And I know it's the manga. But you know what I'm really excited for? It was really soon. You know, you know what I'm fucking building up my fucking social media like a fucking ass power for? Yo, Pat. Oh my god. I don't know if you saw it. There's this new fucking anime on Netflix. It's so fucked up. It's the robots. But they're they're all dude. And like, it's really sad and and like the kids like a pussy. Like, I was watching that shit before you were fucking bored. I was really wondering how that would play out. And so far, most people have heard of Eva. So it's okay. You know, you but there's definitely there's
Starting point is 00:23:45 definitely a new audience that is going, Oh, yeah, I've heard about this shit. I heard super cool. And then tweets of people going, What the fuck? Oh my god, what is this shit? You didn't tell me you didn't warn me, you know, but like, no one is doing the the worst version of it, which is, oh my god, you have to get on this hype. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. That has I haven't seen that. You know what? I'm not excited because those people remember as well that like, for some kids, there's people who the re the fucking the re release, not the re releases rebuild the rebuilds are a vanguard or a vangelia. Yeah, there's a whole that's even weirder. That's even weirder. It's the worst. Oh, that's awful. That's an awful place to be. If the rebuilds are your experience, but
Starting point is 00:24:33 it's sorry. That's a lot. That's a that's a bunch of people. For sure. I am also waiting for having to go. This was made in Japan in 1996. And yes, there is some dark subject matter that may not perfectly align with today's values. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. One at the beginning and one at the end. And boy, it ain't comfortable. It wasn't comfortable then either. When are we gonna redraw the hand and get the extra details with modern CG? It's really funny. Can we get some really good goopy CG? It's funny because that scene is the only scene in the entire show that I think is better in the dub. Because I hate I do not like the Evangelion dub except for that one line. I'm fucked up in in in Japanese. It's something like what's wrong with me. And in English, it's just
Starting point is 00:25:32 like, oh, I'm so fucked up. Yeah. It's like it's it's the most honest he could ever have been with the audience. Yeah, so perfect. I think I think since the time of the original release, our ability to render photorealistic hot glue. Yeah, it's come a long way. And I think if we're rebuilding, yeah, let's rebuild it. Why not? You know, why not get in there? Why not really rebuild it? I'm so I'm so excited for just that that show to just hit a new batch of people and batch. Yeah. You know, I mean, like just hit a new batch of people just and have have that be the discussion like, hey, it's 2019. And people are talking about that thing that I watched 23 years ago when I was in grade five. And Stuart had the anime tapes that he that his brother stole from the
Starting point is 00:26:34 micro play. Right? Yeah. Yeah. But the problem is, is that like, unless Netflix, what Netflix needs to do is have episode 26 autoplay into end of Eva. Yeah, right? That's the proper way to do it. It should not. And it should explicitly not play into death and rebirth death and rebirth. Death and rebirth is an explicit half step that was released in theaters for a very bizarre series of financial and production reasons. It would also make everybody stop watching and never get to the real. Yeah, never because it sucks. So, you know, with that being told to skip death and rebirth, you might not do that. And then you have a bad experience. You ever seen the fucking end of Evangelion fucking Japanese theater cut? Yeah, it's fucking wild. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Oh, yeah. So fucking weird. And a cut to fucking black. Don't no wrap up, no, anything. No, no, the end of Eva one, not death and rebirth. No, I know it cuts the black. Oh, wait, which one am I thinking on on the fucking the whenever you see the D when you see that that fancy now it's time and you see the fucking fancy credits going. Yeah, that's your DVD release in the theaters. You get your final shot. And then, okay, because I made it all the way through because I just watched it to get to the live action alternate real world sequences. Oh, yeah, there you were. Those ones with the actual crowd. Yeah. And no, that's all there. That's so weird. That's still there on the DVD. Is it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's not there. And you're getting the you're
Starting point is 00:28:13 getting the the letters of the death threats. Yeah, you're getting the graffiti written on the studio outside. But there was no fucking craze. Here's the problem, right? Here's the real issue. We're talking about George R R Martin, and we're talking about maybe leave artists alone because they'll fuck up the thing you like. Here's the thing that happened with that happened with Evangelion. And then we got end of Evangelion, which is one of the best pieces of animated film ever. And then they kept bugging him. And we got rebuild one and two, which are great. And then they can so you can only you can only annoy creators into like two pieces of art that are good. And then if you keep going, then you'll get
Starting point is 00:29:01 you'll get 3.33. You know, the game of thrones 3.33. Where Aria turns into a Gundam or whatever. I mean, look, at the end of the day, for everything that end of Eva does to you. It also we can't forget, like it has moments where when fucking when Oscar Roundhouse kicks a goddamn mass produced unit in a fucking mecha suit, like that spoke to my soul, man. That that what she punches that one through the other one. It went deep. I was like, oh, I was so it like the action is unbelievable before you fucking, you know, you be he builds you up, man. You know, mama. Yeah, do it all for mama. It's, it's, hey, I tricked you with these cool robots into thinking about the pointlessness of life and
Starting point is 00:30:09 why nothing matters. And I'm depressed. Man, that kick was so good. That's the problem with art, right? Because you were saying like, you know, about our back up on and Martin is like, what if it's just killing him to make it, right? It's like Evan Gillian was like, you go watch that shit and be aware when you watch that first 24 episode run that Anno is his life is disintegrating in the background. And he hates his job. And he just he is the most depressed a human being can be. And he's channeling all that human suffering into the TV show. And I'm like, maybe we should make artists feel bad all the time. Well, welcome to the the the not the creation, but welcome to one of the most like perfect examples of deconstruction, right? Yeah, where like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:31:05 when you feel like shit, and you've actually been the one that built up what this genre was, and you go, this just sucks. This is stupid. It's dumb, right? Kids and robots. Fuck that. A fucking 14. What is an actual 14 year old, not a 14 year old with cut ripped abs and a deep voice, right? Like, let's not that kind of 14 year old. Let's get a real one. No, man. I was 14. Once I was a pussy, right? I thought that girl was hot. I went to go say hi. And this came out. Scientist parent that leaves the legacy. Yeah, behind for you. Oh, wait, that sucks. And all you got to do is defeat the monsters of the day and save the world with your breast of fire. That's it, right? That's all it. And you got your hot blooded partner. And you got your cool quiet
Starting point is 00:31:52 partner. And the three of you are going to fucking do it. Except getting into the robot itself is a traumatic and incestuous experience that pushes the very limits of your psyche and the pressures of the entire human race upon your tiny bit shoulders as you struggle to take your first step that are crushing down upon you. That's not very manly. No, my burning soul is not filled with vigor and youthful flame. I don't know if I can get into the robot. Well, if you don't get into the robot, I'm going to take this girl whose arms and legs are fucking falling off and jammer into the robot. Bitch, so get in the robot. My youthful soul is filled with bitch. There's bitch in my heart. What now? Well, that class that you love going to and every all your friends and family
Starting point is 00:32:42 and all the cool kids in school, the high school adventures you want to have. Fuck those kids. I really did. I really feel like there's a part in Evangelion that we never got to see where Shinji is like, I don't want to get in the robot. And Ikari is like, I'm just going to start. I'm just going to start disappearing people, you know, until you get into the robot. I'd be like, Hey, hey, class rap. She's pretty cool. Gone. I don't know where she is. She's gone. Get in the robot because Gendo's that kind of guy at all costs, man. Yeah. Yeah. Wait. So monster of the week, we just got to shoot it with the thing and then it blows up, right? Yeah. Cool. Yeah. It's not going to shatter awful planet annihilating. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, so that that was a fantastic.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Let's blow this, this shit up and take a look at what it actually would be, you know, in addition to I'm not feeling good. I don't feel good. In fact, I feel bad. Also, we screwed up the money and we're broke by the time we get to episode 19. Take a look at this elevator. I think the elevator scene is like the greatest scene in anime ever. I absolutely adore is my favorite. Okay. So you can be describing one of three things. I'm talking about Oscar and Ray and the elevator that has zero animation. Yes. Okay. For multiple minutes. There you go. I think it is like I know that it's because they're broke in the in the extraordinarily fancy fancy expensive one. They add like Oscar moving her hair over like once. It's like I have been in that
Starting point is 00:34:27 elevator. You have been in that elevator. It's the worst thing in the world. And it's this dead silent with just the hunts. Oh, it's so good. There's another elevator. And that's your brief glimpse into what's happening in the real world while Shinji's in his head. And that's and that's not a happy elevator. No. And you're like, what was that nothing? That was nothing. Don't worry about that. I'm working out my shit up here. I'm in here. But that was no. You didn't see that. Yeah. And you want to talk about static you like I want to say 45 seconds, but it might even be longer. It's much longer of the hand holding cat holding. Yeah, it's really how it's it's it's minutes. It feels like anyway, holding Kauru. Like and then you start to feel like Kauru and
Starting point is 00:35:18 you're like, well, when is he going to do it? Is he going to do it? You should watch Neon Genesis Evangelion. One of the worst titles ever. Yeah. Yeah. Like it like like if you couldn't like I know he was you were clearly going for evangelize like and it's but yeah, like new and it's literally neon on some part. Like like new biblical, you know, whatever new thesis makes no sense at all. The title is complete neon and Neo are not the same. No, but you get it because it's not like. Yeah, it could have been called cruel angels thesis. It should have been. Oh, I really that's the thing. The song should have been called if Neon Genesis Evangelion and that would make it a lot of a heart weirder. Yeah, hot take. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:11 No, you're completely right. Hot take, but the show should have been called cruel angels thesis. Absolutely 100%. You're completely right. Do you think that was a mistake they made? When it's not that was like a typo. I mean, fuck man. So when you come in, when, when your goddamn intro names are rivaling the quality of the actual name of the part of the episode or the series itself, can we please give a shout outs to Trader's Requiem? Trader's Requiem for Ocar. So fighting fighting gold was a little divisive. Trader's Requiem is not fighting right fighting gold was right was divisive. I saw a lot of people not like it. I didn't like it that much when I saw it. I thought it was yo, it was hot. Yeah, because it's like
Starting point is 00:37:00 that fucking James Bond song. But I would say like no, but you can you can fucking check with Steph like we would be humming that song around the house. You know, but there are people that did not like it. I have not seen anyone not like Trader's Requiem. Anyway, Trader's Requiem is fucking great. It's super good. It's a great name. It starts with gang star. I can't believe it. But to be perfectly honest, the real star of the show to me is goddamn modern crusaders. Enigma, the outro. I love that outro. Fuck because enigma is the matrix band, right? They did a bunch of music for the matrix. They did. They're also a stand user in part four. Yeah, sure. There you go. Right. But like, yeah, so enigma has been around forever. Modern crusaders is so fucking hot.
Starting point is 00:38:06 And it you know, it goes into it transitions into fucking Carmina Barana, which is you're just your classical like oh yeah, we know your old timey epic music from back in the day. And then we're going to slowly pan up the same roundabout style thing of like this is your mural, right? This is your big shot. And it's just all the stands in classical Renaissance poses. Yeah, it's really good. Right. And then and there's two and there's things to notice, of course. Two things I noticed right off the bat. One is more obvious, but it's like as you get to the dividing line and you get to the top of the upper tier of like the the hero stands, you got fucking you got purple haze down at the bottom looking dejected for all the obvious reasons
Starting point is 00:38:58 because purple haze is very sad as we move and he's not even like looking at the conflict above, you know, so that's fucking fantastic. He's looking down off screen at his solo book, right? And then exactly. Yeah, yeah. And then the rest is happening above. But the beauty, the real beauty and I'm going to this one I got to keep vague is the first stand you see in that outro is not obvious. And anyone who knows about this part is going to know what I'm talking about. Yeah, there's a stand you see before you see the stands. Yeah. And you either know or you don't know. And if you do know, you go, you got it in there. You got it in there. And I saw that and I was like, is that that's fucking great. It's so good. It's so good. I was hidden
Starting point is 00:40:01 shit that's great in there for the people that know about the rest of this. And this is still, like I said, it's the weakest part of JoJo, but it's still fucking JoJo. So I'm at I'm at the point where it's like I am thrilled because I ever since the train, it's all been new to me. Like, I don't know. The only and I the only thing I knew about was getting crimson. Luckily enough, that actually came and went fairly quickly. I was kind of shocked. Yeah. First encounter. So like, there's all these little character moments that live on forever and abacchio drinking his fucking wine as as Narancia and and fucking Mr. Mista are just giving the boots to this random fucko. Yeah. Yeah. And then just hard cut to the fuck. Not only are they stomping this rando out,
Starting point is 00:40:53 they're stomping him out Joe Pesci style. Yeah, it's specifically like fucking Pesci and and and good fellows stomp stomp outs like Billy Bats. You motherfucker, you motherfucker, you're going to get your fucking shine box. It's like I'm watching it right and the full body swing into the kick like abacchio is sipping his wine in the back of my mind. Please, please, please, please hard cut. Please hard cut. It's like it's a shot that works way like because I can obviously tell that is a that is a gag that was made on a page. Yeah. And then it's like, but it translates so perfectly to animation because you these are a bunch of shit kids. Don't forget that our heroes are pieces of shit always. They have hearts of gold. Yes.
Starting point is 00:41:44 But fuck their dumb asses. Unlike so your stardust crusaders were all paragons of men. Yeah, Cadillacs of men. Like Jotaro was like the what sold Jotaro's character to me for forever was he's beaten up cat coin and he goes, Listen, I'm a badass. I go to restaurants and I leave without paying all the time. I'm a bad guy. That's like fucking what? And that's what you got. And then and then Josuke and Josuke and Okuyasu look like delinquents. But they're like they're bad news. Don't hang out with those kids. Nothing but trouble. But they're the nicest sweet hearts. Hey, man, I hate turtles, but I'm gonna make sure those turtles okay, because it's a living creature and you should be nice to all living things. The sweet like, Oh, yo, can we get
Starting point is 00:42:34 some money? I like money. Let's hustle. And now what are they doing? Are they stealing for people? No, they're scraping up coupons off the ground. You know, like it's so so you you're like, let's take a look at the actual street trash that don't just say it. They're literally street kids that are the only reason these guys are not villains of the week is because they have hearts of gold. There you go. There you go. And conviction or or Bruto has Bruto has a dream. Yeah, quite frankly. Yeah. Yeah, I get it. Giorno's got a dream. But Bruto has a dream. And that dream is a more real dream than then Jordan. Fuck Drugs is a is a is a dream. I get I get it. Drugs stabbed my dad. Yeah. So I stab him back. Drugs gets you erased from your video game. We'll get there.
Starting point is 00:43:31 I have some harsh things to say about moral relativism. We'll get in that story. Anyway, I guess we should jump into weeks. Hey, let's jump into weeks. What'd you do? I watched JoJo. Mm hmm. Yeah. Me and Paige hit hit the perfect sequence where we're always bugging each other. Oh, you got to watch this classic. Oh, you got to watch this classic. So we have reached the trade, which is a day in which we have four hours to blow and I okay, pick a movie. I'll pick a movie. Bam. Right. This week's trade was on pages and labyrinth, which I had never seen ever, which I now look back and realize I was remiss to do so. Oh, Dio, the original. Yeah. Well, a lot of like liquid snake to and all sorts of shit, right, just bowing it to the
Starting point is 00:44:25 fucking Max, but also Muppets. I'm noticing a trend when Paige is like, you need to watch this old movie. Hey, look at that. There's fucking Muppets in there. Oh, because the last one was Dark Crystal. Oh, that's not where I thought that. I thought you were going to say she's showing you stuff that has like the source material for references you'd know. Yeah. Well, this one also does because I caught labyrinth has a shit ton of formative art shit. There is art. There is a Dark Souls enemy taken from lab. Right. Okay. Yeah. And and also Warcraft's goblins are just the labyrinth goblins. Oh, really? Okay. And how familiar are you with labyrinth back in the day? Because are you watching at some point ever? Guess what? I haven't seen it because in the
Starting point is 00:45:12 the goblins are shit little shit goblins like assholes. And then at the end of the at the end of the movie ish, there's a robot that one is piloting in the pilot seat and it has an axe. And I'm looking at the the world of Warcraft like chopper buzz saw goblin robot. I'm like, oh, it's it's wild blizzard barrel technology. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Blizzard can't fucking think up a single goddamn new thing ever. That's kind of shitty. But yeah, labyrinth's a trip, man. Like it's it's so fucking weird. It's so weird and old and magic key and like kind of Princess Bridey but not. And I thought it was in the 90s was actually earlier came out the year I was born, which explains why I didn't see it. And Dave Boy looks like cats. Looks like Mr. Mestofeles or
Starting point is 00:46:01 whatever from cats. Is he is he filled with cat Isma? Yeah. Yeah. The weirdest thing about the movie is that it's like the other girls like I hate this baby and want this baby to go away. I hate my stepmom. I'm all alone babysitting the baby. And then she goes on a fucking magical adventure that happens to be based on every toy in her room. And the whole time like she just dropped a hit acid and drowned that baby in the fucking bathtub. That's all that's happening in this movie. She's she's lying on her bed. So ha and drooling and shit. Well, the baby's fucking dead. Like that's what I thought happened. But then the baby's okay at the end. I'm like, oh, okay. That's what I thought. We go in headcanon or we go in. You watch that movie. You tell me she's
Starting point is 00:46:42 not dropping acid and drowning baby. I mean, Alice in Wonderland. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that was the author dropping acid. Yes. Yes. Like that. Yeah, that. Yeah. And then the trade on that the average is great. You haven't seen it. You want to see David Bowie technically juggle some glass balls with the master's precision. But it was actually a guy standing behind him with his arms underneath his armpits. Go check out labyrinth is fucking dope. And the other trade that I traded with Paige required a setup like Paige, I need you to watch this trailer for this ancient black exploitation movie Dolomite. And she's like, Oh my God, that's so crazy. That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. I'm like, All right. So we're watching black dynamite.
Starting point is 00:47:31 Does she have any idea what black exploitation is? Of course. Yeah. Okay. All right. All right. But not Dolomite. Dolomite's the fucking bleeding edge of his kung fu hose and all that shit. And the words came out of her mouth, which was I don't know why we're even bothering to watch this because that Dolomite movie seemed crazier than anything could ever be. Hard cut to dino might hard cut dino might hard cut to like backhanding Patricia Nixon into like a zoom cut like wire shot into a fucking cabinet. Yeah, push up shallow a lot of cats going around here with that name. Oh, it's dude. It's it's black dynamite is the it's the best. The soundtrack is the best the way they've cut it is the action choreography is actually like legitimately amazing. It's Oh my
Starting point is 00:48:20 God, it's it's the hardest I've laughed at a lot of like it's the hardest I've laughed at a movie I've already seen in a while. Yeah, the fucking the decoding the words. Oh, what melts in your mouth? Ammon Ames. Yeah, but not in your head like fucking cream corn. What's what's what's the what's the partner that's just like have no fear. That's bullhorn bullhorn is favorite bullhorn moment is he stands up and starts doing it and then just and just slowly sits down and nobody pays attention to the heaven. God, I actually want to go back and find the cartoon because I didn't watch that but I heard it's pretty funny and I watched some of it. It's pretty funny and you're watching it and I'm like all I can feel is Michael
Starting point is 00:49:12 Chai White was like they're never gonna make it let us make another movie of this again. Can we trick can we trick an animation studio into doing this? Yeah, I mean boondocks happened. Yeah, you know, but yeah, yeah. So that's it on the movie front. Let's see video games happen. I don't even know how to talk about DMC. So I'm going to leave that till your section and then I'll jump in on what you talk about about that game. Other than that's the best game I've played all year. I'm including remake two in that yes, I am saying the DMC five is better than remake two. This is coming from Pat. If you have any passing interest in action games in any way, you owe it to yourself to get Devil May Cry 5. It is the best action game. I would say it's already
Starting point is 00:49:58 better than than the previous entries. I don't want to say too much because it crossed three. This is not we're not going to spoiler cast this right now three is the one to beat and beat it but what I do feel is there is there's a lot of people because of the amount of hype and because the hype train is still at the station. There's some necessary disappointment. No, no, no. The hype train is still at the station and some people are wondering if this is a good place to get on. And I don't think DMC five should be your first Devil May Cry game. I don't know. I don't it. What would you personally recommend three?
Starting point is 00:50:41 Yeah, three and then then you can. Yeah, I think you should really start there. If you want the story threads that five is finishing off are nearly entirely from three. So like a lot of folks are kind of like yeah but I don't want and it's like I know but it's if you want to care it's worth it. So the problem I have with that and you're going to be you're not going to enjoy fully what's going on here jumping in at this point. The problem I have with that and I have to dance around you is that there is a lot more stuff from almost every game in that series in that game for everyone like they made a fantastic action game but what they also did is they felt I felt rewarded for sticking with that series for as long as I did. There is a lot of like I mean
Starting point is 00:51:36 look at V and his summons. Yeah, it's already a celebration. It's like oh look hey look everything cool that was ever in Devil May Cry one. Yeah, it's here. It's already a celebration. It's right. Yeah, yeah. And can I just say that like these things don't happen super often. There's only a few I can think of Metal Gear Solid 4 as one of them yeah right where it's just like this is our send up and potentially our send off and it was right. There were no Metal Gear games that came out after four and this is the same reason why we all say Steel Ball Run is the best part because Steel Ball Run is that for JoJo yeah you know but anyway yeah you know that's that's what it is I just I think it's I think it's the fucking best so far but it's also not a jump in
Starting point is 00:52:32 point it's your jump off point yeah you know so if you're if you're late to the party that's cool there's there's cheap enough right now but grab that trilogy so like you know I think the best way to put it is like one of the reasons why the reboot was so upsetting is that four wasn't the game that it should have been right four got some corners cut in a lot of really obvious places and the idea that if the franchise didn't continue that that would have been the end of it especially with the fact that Nero is like maybe we'll meet again like in that shit hey no no no hey that's a good name yeah and it's like come on five is so good that it's and it wraps everything up in a little package that like yeah like I would be sad but yeah there could be no endowment cry games
Starting point is 00:53:21 after this I'd be fine like I wouldn't be fine with it I'd be miserable but like this would be I could live with it like the snake eater yeah like snake like snake eater yeah like we all felt when snake eater came out yeah when it's like okay there don't need to be more Metal Gear games yeah I have everything that I actually need right here I'm all well like the best part like I'll never forget the progression because it was like the first time going through that the final you get your final moments and you go uh and then I'm like cool I'm good yeah right we can leave this alone now and then you get I'm like but there's a couple things there's a couple things about what to do with the Patriots is and but even three just gives you enough but then you get your White House
Starting point is 00:54:08 yeah scene and you go all right I'm really good yeah now yeah it all is implied and then you just to tighten it up here's the time that's my that's the thing that bothers me so much about Peace Walker and five is that that all that development is unnecessary and dilutes that moment that moment that moment is perfect on its own done we're out justification felt not even given but felt right in fact uh like you could have jumped off right into revengeance at that point yeah and say hey what's the deal with the Patriots they're dead like we killed them whatever future here's remember that guy yeah here he is now yeah world's difference cool crazy wow tell four from Reiden's point of view yeah sure you know yeah anyway uh let's see uh poking away at
Starting point is 00:55:08 Warframe Warframe's fun nothing much to say other than just constantly surprised at how fast they update that game like they I gotta say though just before we move off that um this is good isn't it is fucking that's that's that's top tier top shelf shit though as an as a closer my brain is completely flying apart from the boss uh so big boss okay yeah this is good isn't it right he says as he looks at the camera that is top shelf closer material from mgs4 but anyway uh yeah nothing really said about Warframe it's fun I got Siren Prime and Mesa Prime they're fun they're good they shoot things pew pew pew robots um I'm actually looking much forward to their update where they're going to add secondary energy colors but that doesn't mean I think to you but they made it so that if
Starting point is 00:56:03 you form us something which is basically upgrade it you will get instead of having green as your energy color you can have green and anything else or you can just mix and match it so it's a extra cosmetic that they're giving away for free essentially uh really good the night wave stuff is good I also have been dipping my toes here there into the division and I really want to talk to you about the division the division too the division too yes because that is the game that is the most outside your wheelhouse of any game I can think of which well I was interested in the first one but I'm not ever interested enough to actually dive in because division but it was third person so I was like I like that the division is a is short for the strategic homeland division
Starting point is 00:56:43 in the United States there in the Tom Clancy verse to defend American values from cataclysmic casualty events and it is seven months after the the smallpox virus has wiped out like half or more the United States and anarchy rules and you division man must protect the dying of the light and save America and if this sounds sarcastic it's because I swear to god I think the game is being sarcastic so the game is made in by massive entertainment right okay those guys are out in QC they're out in Quebec City right the game is fucking dripping with sarcasm like it wants to be America fucking America fucking day man it's not political it's not political there's no politics in this game freedom is the only no no no no no and as it's like it's fucking goofy like you get to
Starting point is 00:57:54 dude the first the first mission in the game by dawn's early light and what's that it's hey dude it's dawn you're gonna go save the White House you're gonna save the White House so oh my god you're gonna get them there and you're gonna come in they're gonna be oh my god you're here finally you can save us all guardian I mean yeah magic man it's like they treat they treat the division agents who are just military bros as if they're like destiny guardians like like their magic light based creatures of of your the like their paladins yeah the embodiment of America that was not born to a virgin but came out of the uh uh the fucking declaration itself well the declaration just just dropped human beings out of its form funny that you mentioned that because the first
Starting point is 00:58:53 thing that happens you get to the White House and you go on a little podium it's like inspect monument and you hit up on the d-pad and it gives you this pan shot with a oh it's the White House and then I went a little what and I found oh my god dude George Washington's sword is just right here over here as a collectible it's oh my gosh George Washington's sword it's the sword he used to spread the Delaware and him and his guys went and got like and I like and then you go you go to the theater settlement the theater settlement is there and they're like oh my god we have no food and water and all the hyenas which is the the mad max style gang that always populates these games um they're you know they're fucking everything up and this this mission it's like dude we need you to find a
Starting point is 00:59:37 local like co-op garden so we can get some purified water you're like okay got it and then you see you guys like dude we're fucking around we have no batteries it's a serious problem we have no batteries okay can you please fucking get some batteries right and so you're gonna go down the electronic store and get some batteries right and these are missions because they're occupied by any forces right but then this third guy right you go to him he's like listen dude I know this isn't important but it's it's important to me damn it so the Declaration of Independence is at the at the Washington library and and I don't know if it's still there and there's there's so many goons there and you you need to you need to go kill all those goons to get the Declaration of
Starting point is 01:00:19 Independence we have to safeguard it it's it's it's you know food and water and and these things they're important I guess but but that that's our goddamn history damn it and it's just like and then and then my personal favorite you find an audio log in the fucking oval office where it's a phone call between the would-be American president calling the Mexican president to let American refugees cross the border you gotta do it you gotta do it you take the chance you miss a hundred percent of the shots you don't take like there's no politics in this game there's a hundred percent of the elbows a little rib yeah it's it's so weird all the time I really wish we could afford to make an aggressively overly saccharine Canadian like historic thing
Starting point is 01:01:20 that we could hand to Americans to play and be like this feel how weird yeah but it'd be weird right Canadian history doesn't have like the bombast I know I know but that's the point though but I want I wish that America's Americans can play a game like that about another country that's see how it feels is weird to see be like hey don't you feel it in your heart so when you look at this poster of this person who's a hero that you don't really know about the history of like like I go into the I go into the White House and it's like it's your base of operations your base in that game your hub your filing shrine is the White House right and like I'm like the way it's immaculately detailed and it's like I'm clearly supposed to be getting an erection
Starting point is 01:02:09 just from being in this building but instead I view it as like a historical curiosity because it's the capital building of a foreign country the fuck do I give a shit right and it's it's wild it's so fucking wild and like I'm either in the back of my head humming like America fuck yeah or humming that ancient meme song Washington Washington six foot 20 fucking killing like that one by the guy who does I think it's Nealey the baby cakes guy sure freedom isn't free freedom costs like you and me freedom calls some bucko five um I want I want to see the reaction of like not even people like listening right now I want the guy I want the person who's got a crying baby in the background while he's playing call of duty yeah uh he had to pop out his Madden
Starting point is 01:03:03 copy to play yeah I want that guy to play a game where like a god ray is shining down on the giant statue of johnny mcdonald yeah right and and I want and you have to you have to go you have to go do a mission where thieves are gonna tamper with the maple leaf reserve and possibly poison years worth of maple leaf syrup that will damage the breakfast of future generations and and I want I want and I press X to like pick up his his fucking fur hat yeah and put it on and then looks up at the statue and just has a moment as the choir kicks in I want to see his reaction to that and there's like mysterious music as you go through the as you go through um uh the fucking parliament and you find the drawer that contains the photos of mcKenzie in all the women's clothing and all
Starting point is 01:03:50 that stuff yeah I want doing a seance yeah you know and you know you're like oh dude this is a really wow you find out this is part of history yeah yeah you're cold your your shit's all busted up and you find a mountie jacket and she like oh dude you're all you're all rugged and dude the stats are super good but you put on a fucking it's part of the dude it's part of the mountie green set right you you gives you cold resistance and plus 10 to dignity and as soon as you and as soon as you're done with that with parliament and you you load up and you walk outside the first thing you fucking see is a moose yeah it walks by and it looks at you yeah and then it walks totally into the distance and you just kind of stand there and it's the sunset and you're like
Starting point is 01:04:31 yeah man yeah um and so the thing is it's like as a canadian as a kebekker like all of this I think of is like there are people who are taking this unironically dead serious I know it wasn't intended that way I know people here this is a joke yeah this there are guys laughing themselves silly and you know how you know that because when the the US government shut down they put out that fucking beta release says come see what a real government shutdown looks like in the fucking email for the fucking private beta and then four hours later they fucking went we're very sorry we did no way intended to mock your system it's like yeah you did and it's hilarious but don't pretend that you didn't you stupid fucking assholes of course you were making fun yeah I don't come on
Starting point is 01:05:31 you know it's it's um it's it's what it's it's a weird it's a very weird problem and as an outsider it's kind of like we always we always remark on like how um how surprised I am when like I mean I've gotten used to it now from being in America so many times but like like going to um uh when hearts field jacks the airport in Atlanta and uh every like 10 to 15 minutes or so like there's a message that plays over the the the speaker that yeah yeah that's it like what like one of the like it's every 10 to 15 minutes just like a thank you for serving kind of message that pop up and I'm like that I'm so not used to that that's really interesting you know and it was a very dad that was the most foreign one of the most foreign experiences because I'm like it's almost like if you were it's very
Starting point is 01:06:28 odd yeah it's the equivalent of and you know what this is a terrible comparison to make I'm a pulling out oh yeah but I like okay fine it's like you know imagine if you went to China and you saw like the photos oh you're going here huh but that's not what I'm trying to say yeah yeah but it's the most it's like you're like all right that's an aggressively foreign experience to me as someone who doesn't live here this was a good pick but because it's the most opposite in value from fucking communism and freedom yeah but it's one of those things where you're like it's the constant reminder of the values of the country yeah so you got the photo right the big ass portrait and over here you've got their constant reminder of like fuck yeah armed forces you're doing a good thing
Starting point is 01:07:11 and we need you and you know what it is a good thing yeah we do need you and you are absolutely being super courageous you want to compare that by risking it all you want to compare that to my personal canadian military experience I met a guy who is part of the canadian military at a party once he was too old to be at that party and he seemed crazy that's the only person I've ever met in the armed forces okay he was part of the black watch which as you know are crazy okay because they take a fucking sworn vow on princess patricia's grave or whatever to never retreat for some fucking bullshit loyalist parliamentary reason or whatever the fuck and he's like yeah man I'm going out for another training session you know just be ready because I can't retreat yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:07:53 dude you're like 25 and the oldest person here aside from you is like 17 I can I can honestly I can honestly say that like any friends I've made that are part of the troops have been awesome people oh yeah sure everyone I've met that's that has been that is the point that I'm making super cool I've literally never met anyone but that one guy and I was like 15 years ago right right right right yeah yeah I pointed out to somebody on my stream it's like you know I've never even seen a gun out of its holster okay like ever ever cop came to our school and showed us one time yeah sure yeah exactly exactly yeah yeah there was there was that there was like like there are weird value differences that affect how we like oh it's so weird it's so weird so yeah but but but that's what
Starting point is 01:08:37 it is it's so like so like when you when you uh when there is a need to like sort of appreciate like what what's happening there there's no upper limit and then you get these moments in these games where you just hit that fucking blinding light of the stars and stripes it's a french like France company telling their french canadian studio to make a game about american patriots but don't make it too much of the fun what the accent was that whatever but I don't know that fell apart but right but like okay you can have a little bit of fun as uh and it's fucking hilarious and like it can only come across that strong when it's made by someone who's not american oh yeah yeah yeah because because because uh an american studio would make that a little more subtle
Starting point is 01:09:22 like even respawn as bad as they ever got with like the call of duty stuff after respects it'd be like a big uh that was not that was not that was infinity ward that was not respawn it was after they left so that was the remnants of infinity ward uh but it would be like you know it'd be like a scene and then like oh it's a cool american moment and flags and stuff but like it would be overall kind of understated this shit is constant and it's hilarious it's absolutely fucking hilarious on top of that however division's really good and it's shocking when I am bouncing between um Eli has been on top of this for real a plague of gripes he's been sending me all the reddit posts that he's been finding of people diving into anthems math
Starting point is 01:10:08 I don't know if that's on the docket yeah um so I'll leave it for then and then I go play division and I just pick up a bunch of cosmetics naturally and I shoot the gun and it's fun and I get a new gun and the gun feels powerful wow um and the matchmaking works and I'm playing with my friends and it's cool there's a couple bugs here or there but overall it's pretty solid and everybody that I know that it has gotten to the end game is saying that the end game is like half the game and it's really cool and Scott like oh wow look one of these that came out good crazy huh okay so it was good it's good it's good I would recommend it it's quite good I'd recommend warframe over it but that's a whole different beast so if you want your proper games as a service and you dig
Starting point is 01:10:53 like uh military paladin paladinism uh then uh it is totally totally game for you what's really interesting about division two all this political stuff you know all that whatever it's got no politics division one had a really long introduction sequence it had like a proper tutorial kind of thing and the very first thing you did in that game is what caused the whole like you are bullshit if you think this game has no politics because you put you're the player in the space of doing fucked up stuff where there's a food drop in division one and you have to get there before the looters steal all the food and then you get there and it's like five dudes who are just hungry and you blow them down because they're trying to take the food they're looting
Starting point is 01:11:38 it and it's like this is this is troublesome at best it's an avert statement at worst and that kind of taints like the whole game right division two you press start and you're you're storming the white house to save the white house and it's like from mad max dudes there's no nuance there and it's nice and clean are they are they like in the middle of stomping on a flag when you walk in so they so they actually they do the so they realized the last time they must have because you the mission is to go to the white house and the first thing you do is you pass through a parade ground that was on the mall right the the area in front of the white house and you pretty much if you want a straight line there are two of the hyena gangs and they're beating this motherfucker
Starting point is 01:12:31 to death in front of you screaming like crazy people and they're they're full mad max and they're gonna show you listen this gang they're crazy man they're just anarchists they're gonna stab anyone they want to stab that you want to drink your blood they're so evil yeah so it's cool yeah don't worry about it right this is the worst part of society all congealed and want the oh cool yeah that's cool whereas in the original it's like there was no distinction made there at all those dudes just wanted some fucking they're just hungry yeah it's like okay and they're like no this is our food and you went no it's not and then you shot them and I was like mmm that's iffy hmm um yeah division she's great as long as you can look at it with uh either a glimmer in your
Starting point is 01:13:13 eye or a vacant stare well I was gonna say depending on the type of story you want to tell that first games version of events might be the more compelling yeah except that they say that the games events don't mean anything shut up like so fair enough um that's pretty much it for me okay before I jump in there uh let's take some quick words from our sponsors let's do that DC universe is the first all DC platform for DC fans where you can watch read shop and even connect with other fans superman batman green lantern wonder woman that guy flash he's cool sam's DC right shazam is DC shazam's cool I like him now known as shazam that that's that guy from movie actually looks like it's gonna be pretty good yeah uh join at DC universe calm and get sucked into
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Starting point is 01:16:39 i don't mean the navy i mean the idea of a financial institution specifically for the armed forces i don't think that's real out here i've never heard of one yeah it's possible evan et nihosh our cousins are weird so i uh had a week yeah that consisted of playing that daemon x mac and a demo it's just a demo now it's not out yeah it's uh four missions it's it's uh it's girthy a lot longer than i thought it would be actually yeah it um i was expecting because i looked at i did a quick look to see like i'm like how long is this and it's someone who went like oh it's about half an hour bullshit we're getting a lot of that lately yeah um and apparently it's like it's like like
Starting point is 01:17:27 they're taking a survey on how people felt about the game or something like that oh so it's delta room got it but uh it is four is four missions uh two e-rank and two d-rank that game is armored core as shit it's just armored core right it is armored core as shit uh with with anime people the pilots running around and cell shading but uh no it's not cell shading but it has like anyway it's got like a weird flat look to it yeah i dig it but i don't yeah i don't know what it is um it's stylish it's very fun it's it's really got a banging soundtrack that's uh some good old fucking butt rock and uh it's i didn't hear and the title screen has the most bombastic theme of all the ones i've heard so far but um i hope they lean in more with that with the vocals and the
Starting point is 01:18:18 choirs and stuff and the rest of it so far though it's just been like rock inside the game but it's been it's been fun you customize that robot uh you make it look cool and do the stuff it's fine but it's not after antham's customization i'm like oh man this is lacking it's really goofy because like antham is the fallout 76 passed off the punching gloves to antham to get for antham to be the new punching bag but the one thing that there's no punching about is antham's customization is kind of unbelievable exactly and it it's gonna make a lot of other stuff feel lackluster uh until they catch up it makes warframes shit feel terrible yep yep give me shaders give me shaders let me play with let me play with how the material it also makes destiny look like really a bunch of
Starting point is 01:19:07 assholes with the way that the the the colors happen they're consumables and the good shaders are expensive consumable it's like terrible you know yeah let me set the materials of my of my machines it's a really cool idea uh so um what you're getting is what it really though like especially when you get to your character creator in the beginning and there's gonna be more available in the final release certainly uh but based on the demo it's less of a character creator and more of a character customizer you know um like imagine like it's almost exactly like the monster hunter one except reduced options okay so you're like you've got like five of each option do you want the big anime hair or the little anime hair and so on and so forth right um now what is fun
Starting point is 01:19:58 is that you make your you make your your person and then you run around and uh you can play that game outside of the robot oh okay there is out of robot gameplay and i was not expecting it at all but it reminds me a bit of like in metal warriors when you jump out of the robot and you can pack around and whatever in this game you can jump out of the robot and like near automata a little bit what you've got a little pod that shoots okay you've can you can get upgrades to like double jump and dash fast and i'll be honest i'm very surprised and sword slash yeah right but each of these things is an upgrade that you do on a tree of body modifications sure and the body modifications make you literally less human good because you replace your arm
Starting point is 01:20:45 with a robot limb good you replace those legs with boost legs get rid of that shit and when you do upgrades and and they're called surgeries and you get surgeries for your optics and your face and your eyes and the human that you created starts to look more and more like a handser and it's fucking cool there's a you remember the pray game that came out a little while ago there's a fairly cool uh interpretation of that where you'd be using this alien goo or whatever to power yourself up and there's a threshold where when you get enough upgrades the in in station security starts recognizing you as an enemy life form and all the security just immediately turns on you that's and it's cool that's very it's like uh oh i'm really juicing it here yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:21:34 especially if you're salvaging parts right from enemies yeah then why wouldn't that be the case you know but yeah so uh in this so you kind of start to see something that is like making you look all fucked up and i hope the story leans into that because the plot that they've established so far is like they casually they casually use the term moonfall okay in the demo they're like yeah so you know a couple years after the moon fell uh this starts to these these ai's and they're pretty evil i pondered the math on that the earth would be a scorching it'd be a new sun in the moon fell we literally just move right past it okay cool because the real threat is the ai all right right the end all you know how it is yeah we call them the immortals all right that's
Starting point is 01:22:24 all right and uh there there there is some kind of new threat ai is a really good solid threat for a permanent antagonist because they're it's it's warframes antagonist actually like it's a hey and it's it's so many games and movies and just hey we made the robot and the robot's mean now so i know and there is an existing commission of people that are out there to make sure that when we do get good sentient ai it will be friendly but and they'll fail but all it to or one asshole will be like that's cool i'ma do it my way oh no and have it not be friendly and then you get mass effect then you get a lot of you get a lot you get a lot um pick your hopefully you get mass effect if we're lucky we get mass effect if we're unlucky we get terminator or am oh yeah
Starting point is 01:23:16 a terminator's like the middle of the road yeah that's bad i'm gonna say i have no mouth and i'm a scream yeah and fuck you and can go fuck himself i would ride i'd rather have showed and then and well yeah so then at least pretends to help you for some of the game like fucking just like hacker ai is gonna be awesome i can't wait to see the world that we get hate hate reminder that harlan ellison was unhappy with the voice actor they chose to read that script and thus stepped in himself because there wasn't enough raw hatred for human existence in it and harlan ellison was like i got this don't worry oh he's got some hate i think he's dead yeah not too long ago yeah yeah good for like rest in hate yeah i guess um yeah so uh
Starting point is 01:24:19 anyway the the so i hope that the plot leans into that idea of like the the slowly becoming a robot slowly becoming an ai means that like your outer form because they're called they're called an outer yeah um is going to like interface with the enemy in a in a new way or something that'd be fun but in the meantime you you you loot and you put the battlefield parts on your robot and then you paint it and you upgrade it and you put the decals and you do your thing uh you're running around a big bunker staring at your suit almost like anthem um and uh i i realized that man one thing like i had a lot of fun the gameplay is armored core yeah it was challenging there's moments where like you told me that you caught that one where you're like where on the map is the icon it says it's right
Starting point is 01:25:11 where the fuck i have 30 second it's i have 10 seconds did i watch that clip and i'm looking at the minimap and it's like other icons on that minimap were 100 percent obscuring the one thing you needed to see it was on the roof yeah got it um and then what was the other things uh there was a huge uh issue where i wanted japanese voices with english subtitles because fucking char is the red also it's an aggressively japanese mecha game that makes sense exactly right and they literally got char to be the crimson king yeah right which cheeky let me hear the cool japanese anime shit right you could do that yeah but the subtitles everywhere in the game are fine except for when you're in mission there are these tiny little things pushed to the bottom left
Starting point is 01:26:05 corner of the screen as opposed to normal subtitles and you can't pay attention to that i think i'm gonna i'm gonna steal this back for one point then toss right back you load up division and it says hey how big do you want the subtitles to be do you want the text in the ui to be larger and awesomely do you want the game to narrate menu choices to you as you move over them with a like a default robot voice for people with vision impairments you click through that do you have any form of color blindness yeah you click through the and like oh like they go and you have to do them before you start the game and even though i don't suffer from color blindness or i said oh yeah i'll kick the fucking subtitles all the way up and you can you can switch
Starting point is 01:26:52 between subtitles for main dialogue main dialogue and barks which is the first time i've ever seen the word bark surface to the end user and or or scripted interactions or closed captioning and it's like wow isn't that nice we're at a point in game development where and i know it's not always affordable because sometimes teams are tiny but at this point if you're making a full proper release you need one person on your dev team dedicated to quality of life it's just text size we have these problems many times over in many depending on the developer depending on the team we fix these things we can do better so i had to put it on and then i'm like i and there's a lot of dialogue during the missions yeah and i'm trying to look in the corner but there's action
Starting point is 01:27:45 happening and i'm like fuck at least if it was at the bottom of the screen i could glance easily yeah it's very difficult in the way it's coming in there's a lot of rules that have been set up for movie subtitling that is applicable to games use a clear normal font if if your scene has a lot of contrast or can't have a lot of contrast add the option to put a darkened background underneath white text for legibility yeah have the the have the words be a certain percentage of the size of the screens the blah blah blah but like we've gone through there's so many things yeah yeah yeah and um so what we end up with is just something that is like this just it doesn't fucking work i can't do it right um and then the cutscenes come in and then the cutscenes are totally fine
Starting point is 01:28:30 yeah but it's just gameplay there's a cutscene you know and then everyone was like dude just switch it back to english and i'm like and this the english is acting is fine and i'm like i know it's fine but it's not one of the selling points for this game right and uh fucking chat just said diablo is voiced by amaro so both char and amaro are in the game wow like fuck off i'm not gonna play with that right but i it's a problem if i if i can't fucking read what's being said so they gotta fix that they really gotta fix that um as a huge weeb i am outraged and it's like just switched to english it's like i'm a big weeb and also this is a game for big weebs yeah it's a it's a robot game man yeah where else is my weeb are we supposed to go exactly like i fully
Starting point is 01:29:15 don't expect games to do what Street Fighter 4 did and let me set character specific yeah that's a weird option that's never coming back but i loved it so much yeah because i wanted certain characters and certain voices and it sounds great i i like kyle erbert is great he's a really great voice actor he's done a lots of cool stuff and i have no problems with his line delivery i want to hear you go yeah i need that inside of me right it's just a part of it i will absolutely take american ken all day no problem of course he's fucking american boy you know it's dante let's do it let's get rubin all over this place at the same time it's like i think laura bailey is great as chun lee i don't want to hear laura bailey as chun lee i want to hear chun lee's japanese voice
Starting point is 01:30:03 actress yeah i need you know so that's what it is and um tekin i don't want to hear ball rawl i don't want to hear boxer in japanese like it's terrible yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah boom yeah just like it don't do it don't do it um and when bison comes out oh yeah yeah i'm going to be talking about such weakness and bow get the fuck out of here that's norio wakamoto on the ones and twos see the for me the the one that i that has to go it's like i can't stand akuma in english i think he sounds terrible yeah and it is and i 1000 deaths and it's like i remember me and you talked about a million years ago when four came out and you were and you were like well what did you expect him to sound like i'm like i don't know because the type of voice he has in japanese
Starting point is 01:30:53 does not really have a direct direct translation in english so they went for cool gravelly it's like no i think that sounds like shit yeah you hear one shush and also akuma is like aggressively japanese like hmm that's weird but listen just listen to the fucking like psycho punisher or just one of those bison like yeah like you're not gonna switch it back to english after that it's um so let me do that let me switch let me do what i want and in any case um yeah here i really fucking i would love i would love that ability but regardless because dragon ball fighters i want grandma out of there i love i love it i get it it's a like dragon ball fighters is goofy because it's the opposite for me like everyone in english shut up i i like i i have nothing but respect for grandma but i need her
Starting point is 01:31:46 out you see you can't be there especially not if you're gonna be nine of nine of the characters and i need cell to to be norio so anyway oh i love cells english voice actor i i absolutely love it he's no cell i can go both ways on it but norio is my favorite yeah there is a different thing right but cell in english is fantastic hello it's hey plankton what up right or the yell like you gotta get hyped for it but uh where was i going yeah so the you have you have the that problem with damon x machina you've got the problem with um you got the problem with the like yeah the little map indication sometime or whatever but ultimately very fun and you know i'm there fighting the boss having a hard go of it like oh
Starting point is 01:32:33 this is a challenge this boss is fucking just going and kicking my ass and ammo is is is and i'm anyway i had some like i learning on the go moments of like i probably should have played this beforehand to warm up and actually learn that's fine but it was it was cool in the end um i get the feeling that it's going to be a long game it gets it gives you though they're going to give you four missions right that's a lot for demo it feels like this is going to be a gigantic game uh one unfortunate problem that is not really a problem it's just personal to me is that the hook is you blow up you the other row of the other max you go to their potties you salvage their parts sure you take them back to the hanger and then you put them on yours all right
Starting point is 01:33:17 sometimes you get good shit sometimes you get bad shit sometimes you get new shit sometimes you don't you got a loot yeah that's not a hook for me oh yeah i want to make money and then buy the parts or show me the tree right um now monster hunter is an interesting in between yeah the monster hunter and warframe use the same basic idea it's grind for materials and then build what you want yes which is it's it's one step of obfuscation but i'm fine with it but it does have a little more control i can target what i'm looking for yeah in this game the end result is what you pick up off the dirt it's a dice roll and i don't like that i'm not a fan of that um but i know if some people are all about that so uh well hopefully you can buy parts hey listen at least when you're
Starting point is 01:34:14 playing daemon x machina and you you you know blow a dude up and he drops an armor i don't know what parts it is but a gun or whatever and you pick it up and oh man it's got a big number you know that you can put that big number on your mech and your mech will do more damage you know that the big number actually is a big number the number yes exactly uh the the um yeah so like providing as long as i can as long as i'm given the ability to buy parts and and maybe there'll be like like certain parts you can never buy and you got to do the missions for them or whatever that's fine i'm okay with that yeah but let me enjoy the game if i don't feel like doing that and and we'll see what it looks like in the end but it's cool it's cool it's
Starting point is 01:35:00 gonna be worth grabbing and it helps that this is a switch game so that if you have to do repeat missions you're doing it on the bus fucking thing where you don't whatever exactly as opposed to sitting there on your on your your comb console so uh that's cool um the other thing i did was i watched captain marvel how was it did you check it out i did not check it out yet okay well um i've heard everyone say that it's just kind of fine yeah it's kind of it's a movie it's kind of fine yeah it's uh it's it's like it's not bombastic fun like Thor Ragnarok or guardians one and then guardians two and such it's like okay um is it a Thor dark world i thought Thor dark world was okay is this that uh is this okay iron man too is okay yeah yeah oh and um the only and the issue here
Starting point is 01:36:12 is that like unlike those movies where you know you're kind of like fleshing out a character that's a part of the avengers yeah in this case like the significance is really high is a debut pop of the most important person especially with the name you know what i mean which previously didn't matter that much and now all the weight is put on it right and for anyone who's never read comics that is only following mcu stuff yeah like they're they have to look at that and go oh my god that must be the most important character in the entire universe correct right it's the name yeah and you would hope that it was a slam dunk with the name like that and it's not a slam dunk you know okay but it's okay and and and and it's got some fun parts um do you think that uh it's the
Starting point is 01:37:01 kind of thing that because first uh captain america in the first avenger that was also okay but i liked it i did but i also thought saw it as okay like there's some weak shit in that movie yeah but i'm also a huge fan of like the rocketeer style right at you know so it's like but then cap really came into his own with winter soldier and everybody was like oh my oh you think we we could get a situation like this with uh with uh miss larson in the in the avenges uh i don't know because a lot of the reason why it's okay is because uh the character is played okay you know um and and it's and it sucks because the significance right is is high this is an important character this is captain marvel she's the one who got the fucking page yeah she's the one that's gonna do it
Starting point is 01:37:59 yeah and she's the walking nuke you know the final the last line of defense um and she's not that charismatic no and i was hoping that the trailers were sort of just kind of um i was hoping that the trailers were just sort of like not representing yeah it fully or maybe travelers were cut bad but no unfortunately like it's it's kind of like lacking in charisma in this way and um yeah so carol danvers who this is it's hilarious because it's kind of like this is anyone who's who's i've heard people talking shit about this character in the comics forever decade forever like talking the mad of shit fuck carol god damn it yeah wow what an asshole what a dick yeah the the ends justify the means yeah right um and what a hero then and then eventually uh kind of like soft rebooted for a new
Starting point is 01:38:57 era in a new time yeah so that when you're like let's go look at like this exemplary hero you know you can kind of go see like look and she got and plus oh she doesn't believe in future crime anymore she got and she got and she got the update from uh miss marvel to captain marvel making space for kamala con yeah you know so there was that who really should have been the hero of this movie just switch it all around fuck it little kamala doing it that would be hilarious because i was talking to somebody and they don't know anything about anything and i only know a little bit about kind of marvel i'm like the real disappointment here is that there are two female superheroes named marvel and this was the wrong one yeah because the other one is way more interesting kamala
Starting point is 01:39:39 con is way more fun to follow i agree um so here's the thing though but but the soft reboot carol danvers was fun she's all right she's kind of witty and banter she does the thing she's okay she's no problem she's that's you uh but in this case like she is that she does have the sarcasm and she's throwing out the jokes and whatnot but um it's just not really like the the charisma is just not super there you know and like the fun scenes with her and fury are really like it's like furies doing fury you know and so that's that's the thing is like thor it came out and and had um is a great example of like thor you already knew thor was hilarious interacting with the avengers and whatnot and then interacting with nathalie portman and all and all this other
Starting point is 01:40:26 shit you get to see him in his own movie and you're like well can't do much if the movie around him is kind of boring yeah but thor and low-key are great yeah they're great right robert chemistry there is just doing robert might right doing the thing and like cap i was she so um um carol danvers in this movie is what i was afraid cap was going to be yeah right where you're like a little bit milk toast and then no real way to feel or interact with you and then it turns out cap is kind of like and everyone's like is it oh okay you know the fact that the world kind of reacts to that yeah it makes cap work in this case it's it's not enough and it's it's and it's just in a weird space in between where it's it's fine but it's just kind of like you know so um and then
Starting point is 01:41:20 there's awesome there's some great action moments and you know when when she turns on the cg leader and she becomes a laser beam she turns on the cg powers and then becomes that and then you're like well that's yeah you're there you go you know that's what that looks like that'll get Thanos that's actually the first like actual space marvel looking moment in a way yeah because guardians tends to be they do stuff in their ship they do stuff in their ship and they do stuff on planets yeah but there's there's only moments of like space marvel happening yeah and here you get full on space marvel we need gladiator to fucking get some space marvel marvel in here it was this dumb mohawk i mean quite you want dumb mohawks you got them yeah fair enough they're they're big burning
Starting point is 01:42:03 mohawks in this movie you know uh it's hilarious watching how space marvel has to dance around all the stupid shit that exists because quite frankly the kree scroll war and everything that's been written about it has been going on for a while there's a lot of material to pull from but when you go to that fucking kree supreme commander and you're like who's that it's like oh that's just the supreme ai leader of the kree oh do you mean supreme or no not supreme or it's just the ai that leads the kree don't worry about it you're like ah your dumb names suck yeah you know and it's like who's that is that marvel you're like ah yeah yeah it is are we gonna talk about how the name is marvel not really no can we throw in a line just to make it work
Starting point is 01:43:00 against it's oh we can try it's really awkward it didn't work really that's a pun we're going with okay you got it because it's most important powerful person in the universe is based off a pun you can't you can't get around it right it's too important it's too important it's decades and decades old there's never been a reboot of what the deal is it's like that's what it is shut up i mean this is a reboot of what the deal is but the name just goes elsewhere you know like the original marvel was that guy and the the kree and the you just can't you can't get around it at this point you know it's so fucking and like yeah it's the epitome of no shut up though you know uh but it's i did not know about supreme war until you just said that supreme war it's really bad that's
Starting point is 01:43:41 like it's from the same school as modoc yeah i guess and such but um anyway uh so space marvel is here and unlike the guardian's type space marvel that was like rewritten and reintroduced and just like hilarious through and through here it's kind of a little like just in the middle with some good moments okay um and like the most defining things are all like very like the most defining things she does are very like iconic right yeah because um she's stepping into this role as a really important character and like uh she's being the like hey little girls this is the superhero that you can like totally be into right it's the it's the thing that you're kind of showing and it's doing what wonder woman did effortlessly on purpose by playing its hand
Starting point is 01:44:44 like dude right i think i think the weirdest thing about captain marvel is that as somebody who has not seen the movie and going purely off of media flooding out at me via osmosis that brie larson's ability to eat her own foot on stage is a much more interesting character trait than anything captain marvel actually does in the movie i haven't seen any of the the surrounding stuff uh she's an expert at jamming her foot into her mouth yikes i gotta gotta find out what that is it's um let's just say she doesn't want to hear my opinion on captain marvel but she'd love to hear yours yeah okay awkward okay weird well um it's it's so here's the thing right this would be um you'd have to tip toe through the fucking toe posies yeah to to to talk about it if wonder
Starting point is 01:45:41 woman didn't exist it totally but no but remember it doesn't because it's dc right it just doesn't exist but but the point being and and and you know like i mean i remember another is a twitter moment where the twitter moment name was literally um uh if if captain marvel wasn't for you don't spoil it for others or something like that and uh anyway it was one of those things where you're just like there's an importance to there being this type of thing and you gotta you gotta have like a cool there's not you gotta have a really cool superwoman hero that's doing it and um this script is definitely doing that for marvel absolutely but they're playing their hand way too obviously yeah so like and and there's shots of the like there's shots in lines like her getting back up
Starting point is 01:46:35 and stuff that's like this works in this moment but i it's really really clear what's going for and then like there's moments of like like um like there's lines where she's saying it to a character but she might as well be looking at the cat right yeah and uh and she might as well be like turbo blasting like the establishment yeah and like the fact and and just the entire like like like like um yeah the the the entire fact that like it's taken this long to get like main character the Avengers is pretty sausagey man yes it's taking this long to get a main character superhero that's a girl that's just fucking doing it and and that's that's there all there's no questions like Wonder Woman did it and she was like the only one of all of them to crush
Starting point is 01:47:23 it in that whole gang exactly right so total opposite situation sausagey as fuck yeah right um but that's exactly it it's like Wonder Woman does it and isn't trying super hard to get that point across and does and because it's not it become it it works so well yeah and like when everyone you seeing all those footage of uh Gal Gadot i thought it was good though but it's not i really yeah i thought it was good though as well everyone did it was Gal Gadot uh of like all little girls just like crying and hugging her and stuff and she's like you know like embracing that whole thing it's like fuck yeah cool yeah absolutely because you crushed it and that was a great that's the human personification of a of a greek warrior goddess do it do it the fuck up you know
Starting point is 01:48:07 you you earned that right that whole that whole that movie earned that um and in this case it's really like the marvel's like we want the crying children and we're putting in the moments where we're showing you we're showing you the girl the little girl and you're here we're also gonna raise money to send children to the thing that was a charity thing which is the weirdest thing ever i didn't know that okay it's it's the weirdest thing ever like disney wants this to be so much like a like a big thing that they had they made like a charity to send little girls to see the movie and it's like it's a capitalist fucking trick this is a this is a fucking scam but at the same time i don't want to be like going in on this so hard that i make it like a major point yeah
Starting point is 01:48:52 because it's not a major point overall it's still a movie that you should go check out and it's still okay well i gotta check it out it's part of the story yeah you got and you gotta know what you want to know what happens and why and there's there's other stuff in it that's really fun including a crazy ass um flip the script moment that i had no expectations of whatsoever yeah that i'm not gonna touch at all yeah but there's a huge the sam jackson i actually have three eyes there's a there's a there's a huge thing that i expected of space marvel that is not turning out the way i thought it would be um but yeah uh that's that's the only that's the only thing is just like she's not she's not super charismatic compared to a lot of her avengers compatriots and um
Starting point is 01:49:39 the like it the movie plays its hand a little too hard and i think a little more subtlety in that regard and a little bit more um character charisma i don't know what you want to call a little bit of je ne sais quoi i gotta say so i watched all the trailers right and i've talked to people about it and you know watched the reviews of it like the single best moment i've seen from captain marvel is the avengers trailer have you seen it the new avengers trailer no because i specifically avoided it knowing that this was the post captain marvel trailer so she has a cool little moment and that's right it's the only she doesn't speak yeah in the trailer and she has a cool little moment i knew so that's the moment that trailer dropped and i'm like this is dropping
Starting point is 01:50:20 after captain marvel weekend it has to be the the tie in yes the one so i avoided it right but anyway um yeah so that that's where that's at but still on the list some things to the things worth checking out and also to catch up i gotta get ant man also yeah yeah yeah that one's actually apparently super important um so yeah yeah i gotta get my ants and i gotta get my mar my marvels yeah fuck they're not gonna do the head shave but if they did it would be awesome but i'm talking to no one it's fine where's the adam warlock movie is that not happening oh boy um i feel like that's what they're i think what they're doing adam warlock in avengers the way they did vision in uh ultron there's another problem actually that i i feel is you know how we heard about well that's another
Starting point is 01:51:16 story but remember in suicide squad when you heard it was going back into reshoots to add spice and humor yeah right i do there's a couple shots in captain marvel that look like there were reshoots for humor oh no and uh like in particular it's like it's basically like humor with the bad guys kind of moments okay that look a bit like oh that's weird yeah it's but then like it's it's not exactly but there's a couple of moments that feel a little bit like it but in any case that's that's that's where that's at um well luckily james gunnell be directing uh suicide squad too yeah so it's not called that oh it's not it's called the suicide shut the god fucking that's just dc we'll get there we'll get there dc you fucking motherfuckers we'll get there
Starting point is 01:52:03 in fact we can get there right away yeah let's get there right away news hey news so suicide squad is not a reboot but sorry sorry sorry sorry it's not a sequel it's not suicide squad too it is a hard reboot it's the the movie just came out it is a hard the movie just came out you can't do that um stop that idris alba is deadshot and whatnot like stop it this thing is called the suicide squad and it is uh we're just doing it again we're just doing it again don't worry about fuck don't worry about what we just got we're just doing it again stop it yeah what is would you say five years i remember the spider man reboot being outrageous what's the distance for reboots like five minimum maybe more i want to say well what what is the question for reboots to be okay
Starting point is 01:53:12 for reboots to be okay i 20 years yeah sure sure because i feel like five is still just like well i just a human generation what are you doing that's what it should be yeah yeah it feels weird it feels weird you know um unless you're reverting like dmc to dmc five in which case that's a reboot that doesn't count the next day you're you know the next day is is the time limit on that one there is uh yeah there's definitely a weird confusion because like spider man right and you we've learned from spider man to not do this but in this case dc's got to try to do something but the weirdest part can't get away from jared leto fast now huh here's the weirdest part right they have to get but they have to get away from it because of a lot of shit and then the whole like joker reboot and
Starting point is 01:53:59 all that everything that they trashed yeah but suicide squad was a commercial success yeah made a lot of money for them and it was generally it also had nowhere to go and it was a total embarrassment and it was it was very strange it was being held up as like one of the worst movies that year but it people fucking went and saw it and it made money you know but yes it it actually um causes a problem with what if we want to use our major characters in a different way because suicide squad was supposed to be a jumping off platform for joker and for all these you know and if fucking wasn't and and bat fleck bat fleck yeah was going to be doing his own deal and he fucking bowed out of that shit said afleck is sad but now he's not
Starting point is 01:54:44 sad anymore because he doesn't have to be batman yeah it won an oscar yeah i won an oscar that's hilarious it won some kind of technical oscar that's that and uh that that year that winning an oscar was like you know every year there's some bullshit because like something that deserved an oscar didn't win anything yeah the suicide squad was the exclamation point on that year yeah of like are you are you fucking for real that these people got to go everyone on that film gets to go you know i'm an oscar winner yeah like like the fact that is outrageous i mean i mean the funny part is that like the whole hoopla over like um shit like um black panther and stuff and like superhero movies being like hated by the academy and everything it's like
Starting point is 01:55:34 all of that for being a problem for so long and everyone hating the mcu because they're not real movies and so on but suicide squad one well apparently for makeup okay which somebody got their dick sucked backstage well anyway um so that's a double door that's happening and that's what i'm saying that's that every day wait like you got it you got to space this shit out um or or this is this is this is pulling the ripcord though are you allowed to pull the ripcord because spider man was also pulling the ripcord but not knowing what to do i think that if you're gonna pull the ripcord i think the president or whoever the fuck's in charge needs to stand up and give a press conference and go look we know that movie was terrible right right right like i'm big on accountability like
Starting point is 01:56:21 that i'm big on it that's what i want to see you can get away with a lot of shit as long as you get have to stand in front of a bunch of people and yeah i fucked up but also you have to say like well it's i mean it's public but like the thing with spider man as well it's like uh we're doing this because we're running out of time and we'll lose the license if we yeah no say that say that all out we props forever thumbs up we gotta get one out otherwise we lose the license press conference in a three four years about fantastic four yeah we're gonna lose the license again so get ready for this schlock all right i'll go see that fuck you you're honest oh boy um yeah so anyway it feels like in an unexpected way this like i thought the future was going to well you know i thought the
Starting point is 01:57:03 future was gonna be everyone will continue making garbage and then they'll eventually concede and just hand them handed back to marvel out of failure and that kind of did happen yeah it did except for fan four stick but they didn't fully hand it back because they also kind of figured it out by x-men eventually getting good movies and with fox and sony eventually getting good movies and then just spider verse giving up on yeah spider man yeah but but like it's like you're you're you had to be stubborn to try and you know you squeeze as much blood as you could decades and if only you hired some talent but no so be it david goyer's gonna fix your movie real good let's see what happens with uh fucking james gunnan suicide squad well he's got a lot of work suicide squads he's got a
Starting point is 01:57:51 lot of work suddenly yeah he's back on guardians galaxy as well and so uh disney caved and uh batista is up in wrestling you know what's the funniest thing about that get me what i want the funniest thing about that shit is like okay you're gonna make a connected universe and you're gonna have character you're gonna have characters played by the same actor appearing in various important roles cameo here major role here three four five six movies oh they're all gonna walk huh right uh oh yeah yeah the entire cast and not just the cast of the iron man or whatever the of the ensemble movie mm-hmm that was a gangbusters hit all go work like that what is eight nine they're all gonna walk oops and and and batista in particular like not being uh afraid to
Starting point is 01:58:52 like publicly be like fuck this dude it's beautiful like i remember seeing it and i'm like i remember seeing all the news like james gun fired and all that crap and it's just it's like batista batista with the hardest of anyone yeah and then pratt and all them then we're like yeah no us too and it's like that must i would love to be a fly on the wall of the disney executive man going what do you mean they're all gonna walk well they can't and it's like you can't force them to fucking record a movie but how stupid would we look if we uh controls eat it right now you can't walk that back you gotta you gotta wait like a year even though we know we're just gonna hire james gun back we can't just look we can't look corporately weak we can't admit that we made
Starting point is 01:59:39 a stupid knee jerk reaction we gotta wait for the we gotta wait for stuff to blow over and make it look like we just eventually capitulated to the evil actors and the door movie yeah let's lay low all but yeah it's true they did sign contracts though they were just gonna have to make a movie dude if every actor on a project and i'm like i'm big movie man says fuck you i'm gonna fuck this movie up well they're they're gonna do they're gonna they're gonna oblige their contracts but they're just gonna close their mouths and eyes on camera and they're gonna have to see g the eyes and mouths back open like and then they're gonna go on the fucking the the shell tour on the late night and they're gonna say don't see it at which point the i got paid don't see it yeah yeah
Starting point is 02:00:27 the fucking just all you wesley snipes everybody in guardians of the galaxy three and they're all cgi's and they're just like this and they're all dubbed over suddenly like nolan north is talking to nolan north and fucking Troy's there and Laura's there yeah everybody's there it's like why not just make a video game oh my god guardians of the galaxy three into the guardians verse back on right like they they they caught they would have just animated it so i have a sneaking and gone and did it like the telltale i have a telltale to fucking i have a sneaking suspicion there's gonna be some smug ass shit in guardian street some real smug ass shit
Starting point is 02:01:21 i completely disagree oh yeah based on the words james gunn has used and the way he's gone about this it sounds like he's just like happy to be back on board let's get to work i'm happy to be back on board so i'm not really all that excited because they called me up the day after they fired me and told me that i'd be back on board but that i have to wait a year to tell everyone that i was back on board he's playing it so mellow i hope i hope to see some smug ass shit yeah i want to see them talk to a corporate alien called didney man and slap him around a little bit i mean i i just i remember when i was back in the qa days and around the office people were sending the short pg porn you know that he shot which was like yeah it's literally exactly what it sounds like he shot
Starting point is 02:02:13 porn's that were pg that's weird yeah like that's really weird and hilarious you know and uh and uh lollipop chainsaw yeah and whatnot right so you know but a lot of folks uh didn't didn't know uh so suicide squads fucking um uh squad of suicide coming soon um that's happening why like you trying to make that movie before putting a batman like i it makes no sense to me you can't beat heath ledger and fucking dark knight like you can't everything everything's downhill from that point and it's rough because you got to keep making money but yeah that sucks what do you do you know i mean the real answer is like like fucking you can you can try getting some of passing the
Starting point is 02:03:09 mantle off and get some fucking sander kane in there or make a movie for woolly yeah make a kassandra kane movie and it's completely silent man anyway that'd be a cool flick actually actually actually real talk uh miles has had his moment yeah why not terry i completely agree why not terry apparently there is a batman beyond something happening oh cool uh because quite frankly like the world at large does not know how fucking cool no actually uh dc's animated studio came out and said that they're looking into making a batman beyond thing with terry inspired by spider verse great cool awesome but not what i meant you know oh it's not oh you meant just straight up
Starting point is 02:04:03 past the mantle to terry i meant like you want live action proper big never gonna happen never i know i know i know because batman because batman right and you know what oh we ever go uh right and it's like uh yo get miles up in there no why not because peter peter though like it's it's infuriating it's fucking infuriating and like you don't realize all of the fucking like you don't realize that it's the writing that makes the movie good it's the script it's the it's the events unfolding it's not just because i know who that guy is that i'm enjoying woolly it doesn't have to be bruised you're talking it doesn't have to be peter you're talking to an industry not just the movie industry a fucking comic book industry that made
Starting point is 02:04:58 the most unpopular decision i've ever even heard of with a character because well young readers can't identify with peter parker because he's married so we have to retroactively fucking erase 20 years of character build up right not only is peter not enough it has to be peter minus marriage it has to be the most de facto state ever to new slate new slate everything's got to be a new slate fucking got like the fucking captain marvel shit popped off the a new wave of people who are in the comics and who read manga going hey i like captain marvel or i really like iron man where do i go yeah soft versus i liked battle angel elita where do i start here here volume one chapter one battle angel elita done yeah yeah i the first thing i said walking out of the theater
Starting point is 02:05:57 to staff was oh man i can't wait for the new audiences that just saw this that go i want to go read about carol to go back to the old shit and go whoa i can't wait for that reaction it's gonna be hilarious but um something that happens in comics right is the mantle pass occurs and sometimes there's many mantle passes and for a long time there's been bad ones stupid ones shitty ones things that people i know there's a bad green lantern i know there's a couple there's like five flashes or whatever i mean i mean quite i give me my guy gardener movie but that's that's neither here nor there uh there's been mantle passes that suck for so long that when good ones happen they should be fucking celebrated right terry mcginnis is a great batman
Starting point is 02:06:54 terry is one of the good ones laura is one of the good ones miles is one of the good ones yeah these three absolutely deserve i'm not super familiar with laura laura x23 okay there you go thank you logan yeah these three are great and deserve it right they're cool let that happen no one's shouting out for for a fucking date whatever his name is the batman son uh damien damien you know what i mean no one the one that's like a psycho no one's no one's shouting out for for super boy you know one's ever shouted for super boy like i was not aware how old super boy is either and man it's just it's just when it's when you when you nail it and it works embrace that right and movies of course eventually like
Starting point is 02:07:54 we're now we now have the balls to to to do the thing where um you know the origin story let's move along yeah like they're finally there like 15 years later or whatever um now it's time to embrace the part where who cares it's not about peter or bruce it doesn't have to be that right let it be a good just get right the writing yeah and so that's why it's just like there doesn't have if you oh you know you can't get ben afleck oh what do we do after dark night what do we what do we fucking do throw it out just throw it the fuck out bring in terry new character new actor new audiences the future people are gonna go i don't know what this is this is different this is not what i'm used to but guess what that's probably means it might be good you
Starting point is 02:08:38 walk out of there going oh that was awesome bat and it says batman on it done tickets sold no woolly you even got the fucking logo just to confuse people i don't mean you're arguing with a movie industry that's that rebooted halloween like eight times yeah like i'm just saying there was one there was one like three or four year period where halloween came out and then another movie called halloween came out because it's a reboot and it's gotta be mike mires it's gotta be exactly the same every fucking god damn it but it's like the reason why it's so dumb is because unlike the other things where i'm like like if i'm like i'm not gonna yell about like i want carol to have a haircut because it's like no one's gonna like that that's just for me right that's
Starting point is 02:09:19 silly don't do that that's a terrible probably a terrible idea but i think it'd be awesome if they i think it's crazy because we live in a situation in which video games with their sequels can often be more creative than brand new properties from films such as spider man the so marvel spider man yeah yeah like it's wild it's absolutely fucking dumb but this type of thing it's like when you're stuck in this reboot world of uh-oh the movie sucked and ruined things how do we fix this like don't get pretending to happen just fucking move on no you know no anyway no god damn it anyway just erase it well you're gonna erase my memories of amazing spider man too fucking good look with that did you hear that um uh toby maguire and andrew garfield were uh and um
Starting point is 02:10:10 um current uh spider man tom holland were supposed to be in spider i did hear that yeah that's amazing yeah that sucks that they didn't nah that would have been a great fucking coward that would have been a great fucking coward and then you're alone thaws in the back you cowards you're so fucking scared you're scared of greatness it could have happened that would have been great ah acknowledge it it's not embarrassing it's fun let it be fun comics are dumb and fun let them be stupid come on embrace your fucking failures let it be fun call him supreme or call him supreme more if they were willing i don't know if the actors were willing i think it was a scheduling thing okay i think they were gonna do it and then it just never worked out i hope so i hope it wasn't
Starting point is 02:11:00 just because what i read maybe i'm misinformed and maybe i'm yelling for no reason if i find out after the podcast that it was really just a scheduling thing because they never mind but what i heard was they they didn't have the balls to go for it oh that sucks but anyway it's possible sony didn't have the balls to go for it uh yeah we got to catch up on a bunch of news over the last little bit um because some of these aren't don't require that much discussion some of them just require a laugh hey pat yeah what's up you got any cocaine in your pocket uh not in my pocket no well that's that's handy because uh if you did let me tell you about jump you would be forced to delete your willy your existence your your pat versus japan videos yeah hey willy i want to
Starting point is 02:11:53 give a preface to those of you who don't already know about this story i've heard the guy's name and i guess that's appropriate but you know the guy who writes Kenshin uh mr pedophile yeah the guy who got caught with the kiddie porn's i was like yeah i won't fuck kids remember that guy mr pedophile yeah and then how awkward it was that it's like well he's back to work like two weeks still writing Kenshin hey hey hey hey he paid a less than hefty fine yeah um and then he's got to eat and then Kenshin what are you supposed to do and then Kenshin's in jump force i mean Kenshin's still a good character but you're still like right and you're like well different cultures and and then and then you're like no we're talking about kiddie porn no fuck that this is bullshit right and
Starting point is 02:12:50 that's that that you you tried sold out his uh other he sold out other pedophiles and he helped them bust the the ring yeah so so it's cool you know yeah i guess um no no it's not cool no it's not it's it's it's not cool at all um but hey you know what the battoe sigh you can make your personal decision on whether or not support Kenshin or jump force or anything like that but i don't think anybody doesn't think that it's weird the way that i was handled and uncomfortable and probably unjust ten thousand yen ten thousand dollars equivalent are you serious uh not ten thousand yen the equivalent of ten thousand dollars uh which is earned in less than a week whatever his fine was yeah was like one week salary is like yeah no i'm he essentially was
Starting point is 02:13:44 like yeah no i'll i'll keep it more hush next time don't worry about it you're like okay but this motherfucker snorted some fucking cocaine which motherfucker i don't know his name anymore he seems to be erased from the universe the one whose passport was burned in the public town square so pierre tacky uh or pierre tacky or i don't know how to pronounce his name i'm sorry is first of all the photos that are coming out are his appearance in judge eyes as a yakuza boss looking like an old cocaine fiend by the way in the murder crime game it has come out that he was in possession of a small amount of cocaine and i just i need to stop for a moment and applaud because i was coming into this story
Starting point is 02:14:46 fully ready to jump on the ridiculousness of the drug the drug culture and all that shit but the framing around the dude that was like six months ago it was framing around the borders of mr kenshin cp man yeah with literal terabytes of fucking children yeah being super fine a physical object that literally damages the concept of humanity as a whole like like i'm being hit with the waves of that in relation to this story you can't i'm having a hard time right now so this story is like ridiculous and draconian and you can argue about drug and i was gonna laugh about the no sense of like you know what you're crazy but you know what you got to blame the west in general because we introduced the entire puritanical yeah the americans
Starting point is 02:15:44 really fucked up anyway post war that shit you know but and draw and they did apparently they didn't have a very high opinion of drugs before like opium was was legal yeah and and uh uh i want to say what was the other one there was another type there was a mushrooms or something something was legal for a while and then they it was only like after they realized like uh oh we don't want to have a bunch of drugs there's two steps here right step step one is pierr tacky has had uh the game he is in judge eyes the next you queues a game for all tends of purposes or you you do god god go go go to go to which is like a dragon the sales of that game digitally and physically have been stopped its western release is currently in limbo people who are worried it's going to get
Starting point is 02:16:26 canceled for the west that's ridiculous that's not going to happen sega is not going to lose the money on that they might even release it as is here because we don't give a shit but wait there's more he also voices olaf the snowman in uh frozen yes who is a character in kingdom hearts three yes which just went on sale yes and guess what is currently being patched yes to remove him from the game as page pointed out on twitter olaf is a character literally made of cocaine uh a fucking point that should not be ignored so there's that part right there's like whoa whoa japan does not fuck around about drug abuse wow wow wow wow wow like out here in the in in north america right or in europe or fucking wherever you see actors get caught and do
Starting point is 02:17:17 all sorts of shit but ain't nothing going to stop that money from coming in ain't nothing going to get that product off the shelves right unless in some cases if actions in the film or whatever we're actively criminal right like hey did you know they actually like shot all those people and then that that that action scene okay yeah no that's that's coming down that's coming down right but then you take all that ridiculousness let's amplify the fact that the game in which that it's we're talking about he's playing a yakuza boss he's playing a murderer coke fiend crime man this is so appropriate it's not real though you see the the the the thing is that there is no drugs in japan and if there are they're gonna go including if they're inside of your body
Starting point is 02:18:11 yeah we can't get rid of the drugs we'll get rid of you because they're inside of your body right and um so that is its own hilarious context and particularly if you're a person in anyone within the range of my voice that either knows somebody or is somebody who has been unfairly targeted for what i would call ridiculous drug laws right people that 10 years ago in montreal would have gotten picked up for smoking pot on a corner because they're idiots but now we live in a pot for you know like now we live in a society yeah okay what well we live me you and i are living in a society where people are smoking reefer on the fucking street right now right right so like yeah a ton of people get picked up over drug bullshit right it happens all the time stuff that
Starting point is 02:18:56 doesn't hurt nobody like i know people who do cocaine you know people who do cocaine they're idiots i don't think they should do cocaine but the so your body do what the fuck you want yeah quite frankly um if you want to get real do whatever the fuck you want with it get that away for me and i don't particularly want to be around you while you're on cocaine but whatever um um i mean right there's a swerve here that i that we don't need to take about countries that have changed their drug laws yeah and have seen huge benefits to do yeah sure that's but whatever right regardless that's not even the point the point is this is fucking kids is apparently okay though according to not me i need to make that very clear and not stop talking or leave any pauses
Starting point is 02:19:40 when i speak about this subject uh huh right but like uh i saw on chat the kenshin man had hundreds of dvds of child pornography first of all dvds implies a level of nefariousness that i was honestly not prepared to see right that's terrifying on on a whole level i can't like i'm this putting these two together you need to they're within each other's context horrifying like i'm actually struggling what is okay but it's not okay because are these completely antithetical to every single value you personally hold like because if you think about it right like we like like oh my god like swapping these punishments around sure is the most sensible thing in the world slap on the wrist go to rehab right you don't exist anymore you you go away
Starting point is 02:20:36 you're gone you bad you did a bad the the the the your name is right like just it we're done dude they didn't even send them to kitty rehab which i don't know if that exists does it i don't know know is does it involve handing you a fucking real doll i don't know man but like the the what is i yeah like like and this is where this is where a deeper philosophical argument about cultural and moral relativism starts to fall apart because i cannot make this work here's the problem in my head this does not work you took you took a you took a story that was a nine yeah to me yeah from an hilarious from a while ago oh yeah oh that's what you mean yeah in terms of just that is alarming that that is a bad and then you took a story like this which is
Starting point is 02:21:38 like a four yeah and combined you should get a 13 yeah but right now i'm at like a 50 yeah like i can't when these two it's bad that is feeling horrifying to think that her uh not just this guy not just pure tacky but there was another idol i an idol that was caught disappeared as well that society just gone yeah exactly you just that's it right um the implication of your name being associated with anything at all means it's it's poison and everyone drops you you can no longer make money you can no longer do anything um you're blacklisted from society right and i'm already somebody who says like i don't think anyone should ever really be blacklisted from society yeah um unless you are like committing a heinous crime in which case you can be removed from existence quite frankly
Starting point is 02:22:37 but um there's like like even even if you're in that fucked up child porn place there's a place where you can still i don't know man you can make you can lift some boxes somewhere like whatever i don't know figure it out it's not a four it's not a fully formulated thought i'm just going i know i know the emotion you're feeling you know what i mean like here you can you can we'll throw some yen at you and you can do your thing right that's cool you can be downgraded to manual labor retail forever whatever right right but that's not the way this works with the cocaine thing it's like no you're gone you're disappeared and because you're famous everyone will know forever and while that's so extreme that i wouldn't even put it on the fucking Kenshin man yeah boy it sure
Starting point is 02:23:21 fits that pair of shoes better than this dude oh yeah especially since as a product of this system Kenshin man was like yeah i know it's bad i know why i promise promise i didn't go so far into Kenshin that i can taste safe for sure but i'm pretty sure from i i have a buddy of mine who who reads a lot of Kenshin and he's a big Kenshin fan that's hit him really really hard and he's like there are a couple things you look back on and you're like okay okay because because there's some anime out there where you're like oh that's just on the surface at overt yeah like um oh god what's the new one where they go into the hole into the abyss sure abyss sure there's some switch in there yeah sure right right and you're like or like
Starting point is 02:24:12 oh that's like your tiki's right like you're in dragon in 18 000 year old myth dragon myth dragon yeah yeah yeah she looks like she's four but yeah okay hey she's gonna fit you want to have kids no bitch yeah so uh there's a whole lot of that right and that's the one thing is that Kenshin's not the place where that was like on the surface and you're waiting for the crackdown but now like like there's some manga out there i'm just saying there's some manga out there where you're like are you fucking for real like like when the cops read them they should just go kick the door down to be sure hey you know what i mean hey hey like what's going on here hey i just read this volume we're just doing a fucking public safety check man what's up hey what's up you know what i mean who
Starting point is 02:24:58 is that hey you just you just you gotta just kick the door down just to be safe you know what's going on Kenshin's not one of those books no it's not there's no reason to go kick a door down over Kenshin but what this does do is make you go and then you think and then this does the you know what this does this does the opposite for yakuza and you're like oh wow all the actors playing these psychopaths and murderers good thing to know that they're all squeaky clean and would never do like oh man and the thing i guess is that like like i never would have expected it but if i were to expect it i would have expected like uh gets in trouble for drawing child porn yeah right as in my as an artist yeah and that's that's
Starting point is 02:25:50 a whole thing no these were real these this was not illustrated and fictional this was real and damaging this is that thing that they made eight or nine seasons of amazing amazing television with svu about with elliott stabler and you need to actually just go away you need to actually just be removed and go away go over here now and stay like it's like that's the crazy anyway yeah this is not really what you would expect to sign up for today listening to your video game anime and movie podcast but hey i wasn't ready for that fucking parallel yeah dude i saw this news and i'm like are you so it didn't really hit me until somebody pointed out that jump force came out and nobody gives a shit yeah i didn't even hear any talk about the fact
Starting point is 02:26:47 that kenshin was in jump force despite that thing because i guess nobody cares but oh boy not to no and also actors love cocaine yeah uh here's what i hope actors love cocaine i hope that this because i haven't ever heard of this this is the first time i've ever heard of this kind of story right and i've heard about the strict drug laws but i've never seen this type of public crackdown in this way yeah i hope that this moment is greeted uh by everyone uh blah i hope that the way that we're reacting is they they see that and they kind of catch on that you're fucking nuts everyone outside of japan is really weirded out by this you are fucking nuts except for except except for uh the philippines and a bunch of other countries where they're equally as draconian
Starting point is 02:27:40 with their laws equally i don't i think the philippines should win an award for taking it too far yes however there are other non there are other countries that china is not that remember when we thought that story was funny yeah right yeah i do yeah well before it played before it became much less funny before it played out yeah um well anyway the fact that uh we are looking at like this is a modern reaction to this absurdity is something that i think japan's gonna possibly take note of you're completely nuts you're you're fucking crazy no they're i'm not saying they're gonna change things but i'm saying the like the only reaction the gust of wind from the butterfly's wings yeah that is the rest of the world going what the fuck are you doing the only this is the
Starting point is 02:28:23 first time that'll happen the only thing that will alter that course at all is internal pressure and the internal pressure would have to come from young japanese citizens that go what the fuck i don't give a shit just give me my video game right and here's the part where i i'm now just watching this with eagle eyes and hawk eyes whatever it's like sega of america is in a fairly delicate position because north american english and european english speaking audiences could not give less of a fuck and the idea the judge eyes might be delayed for months if not longer depending on timing based on a cultural overreaction of the country of origin over what they perceive to be nothing is going to hurt that game period right i'm so sega gets to like
Starting point is 02:29:25 i am so excited to see like sega consider putting the game out as is here but then changing the japanese version which will cause a fucking weird ass thing for japanese game players who go what the actual fuck the foreigners get the better version of what the fuck take a take a random npc and replace his model with that guy so that his face isn't there either so by the way i i don't know how deep you dove into this but yakuza 4 is getting remastered slash re-released and the actor who played the fourth character tanimura the cop yep has all was disappeared over cocaine the same thing same exact thing because they put out the trailer and everybody out here was why the fuck is tanimura look different what the what the fuck he's a different face model
Starting point is 02:30:20 completely recast i mean isn't there isn't the director like an actual yak at this point like yeah so there you go right fuck well he he's he's weird and orange now and he dresses all creepy and he's like yeah i hang out with my friends and we talk about inspiration for the game we're good pals good pals good pals i'll let me just repeat myself because the people i'm looking at like especially like chat people going like woolly's you don't get it like i'm not saying that i think the reaction from other countries is going to lead to them reforming their child's porn and cocaine laws i don't think japan is going to do that in like in reaction to these stories and and whatnot what i'm saying is the fact that this is happening currently and these are the
Starting point is 02:31:11 first times i've as people have been we've been playing japanese games and watching anime and reading manga for years now these are the first times that these types of stories are coming out that we've heard of yeah and they're getting these reactions if there's going to be a moot pushback against it at any point it's going to start with these ones with these moments and i hope that like down the line there can be a snowball that rolls to me in a ball that rolls down the fucking mountain to fix this but i think it's going to take a fucking long time before that happens but if it could happen based on these things starting to be like japan what the fuck are you doing more and more often from a lot a lot of people over the year over time
Starting point is 02:31:56 there's a shot as opposed to zero shot the fact that the law came into existence based on them being concerned about what other countries thought is reason enough to think that what other countries think might make the law also go the other way hey if you are a japanese person who happens to listen to our podcast uh i would be very interested in hearing your opinion on this subject and what you feel like the the on the ground populist reaction because you know i don't know it's quite possible that the average person is like oh my god i can't believe he did drugs this is the most horrible thing ever and and that's it you know like i don't know yeah i doubt it i very much doubt that i have a sneaking suspicion that the average person can see the the asinine
Starting point is 02:32:46 ridiculousness of this well but there's a lot of cultural inertia well the like i mean the question is is like do is anyone actually still thinking about it as reformadness like are they actually seeing this as you get coked up and then you go on a murdering spree or are they kind of like yeah we know it doesn't really matter but like well it's just the way it's been drugs hurt the children so you got to ban them so you know you got to ban everything that hurts the children yeah um and and of course instead of like helping people who actually might need help yeah you're gonna fucking do this type of thing right so yeah i imagine it's actually somewhat difficult to become a drug addict in japan though considering this you have to be successful you'd have to
Starting point is 02:33:31 you'd have to be really successful and you'd have to have a lot of privacy yeah yeah so like like i want to like i just imagine like i just imagine a bunch of like elected officials in japan like looking at a safe injection site and just melting yeah into full on fucking indiana jones dust yeah you know but anyway um this story is uh i can't handle that contrast so what so what you do is you you walk into the japanese parliament and you get out you pull out your bag and it's a copy of scarface on dvd and you open up the copy scarface on dvd and the arc of the covenant ghost start shooting out and yeah yeah yeah so uh i when i clicked on this story you know uh you didn't think you'd be uncomfortable huh no but there was another
Starting point is 02:34:24 story that just popped up on the headline oh yeah and i was like oh that happened live on the podcast oh nice cool so we got confirmation that the battle pass for apex is coming out on march 19 which is tomorrow that's there you go cool for the longest while everyone's been like when's battle pass like the funniest thing is like there's a comic that's been repurposed all around the internet for a while and uh it's like someone going he's talking to someone else going like hey this is my favorite subreddit and it's like r slash apex legends it's like a bar yeah there's a dude like drinking like guzzling a bottle and then like the guy who's being talked to kind of peers over the shoulder and goes and then the guy drinking is just like oh father when's battle pass one
Starting point is 02:35:11 battle and the guy who's telling him is just sweating and it's hilarious so uh for the longest while this has been a thing now uh there's a lot of battle pass like uh controversy has been based on the fact that there's signs all over the place that it was supposed to happen already and yeah people got really really like excited and in their own heads about like it's going to happen today on the top apex is leaky as fuck and then there was a bunch of like yeah and a bunch of like uh data miners and and and like other like updates and like the the fact that origin updated itself on this date and the jump pad showed up in the game and all this stuff was like the jump pad is a very fortnight thing where a single element of the map changes to be like hey dudes something's coming yeah so a lot
Starting point is 02:35:54 of people kind of were like wow we're ready for it and like even though it's been a month there's definitely been a like man this is getting boring without it especially because you can cap out your levels and you can't get boxes anymore right so but the problem I think and I bet you the reason why this got delayed uh even though it wasn't announced necessarily is because there's been an exploit where to get any of their bonuses such as the exclusive Pathfinder twitch skin or the extra origin boxes you could just enter in a command line yeah on the game's boot up and get that shit yeah that's why that game that that promotion came out and then the game went down because uh oh anyone can copy paste and get this right so I bet you to avoid that happening because it was built
Starting point is 02:36:37 for um things like this battle pass for example yeah to be put in through that method they went uh oh this is a huge problem because this is how we're going to make money yeah so they had to fucking delay it and make sure that that exploit's gone it's uh so I was just reading up on the battle pass as to what it actually is um octane uh no octane comes out tomorrow alongside it characters are very very explicitly not going to be in the past um but it's all cosmetic stuff uh stuff like that boxes what have you the ability to get more uh boxes as the season it costs uh nine it costs 10 bucks and here we go here we go and it goes 100 levels oh yeah you have those you have this back sheet yeah season one wild frontier battle pass 950 apex coins to it's about 10 uh yeah
Starting point is 02:37:28 play more to level up and unlock so yeah rewards the bundle for 2800 apex coins so that's like 30 yeah it's 30 uh get the battle pass plus your plus unlock your next 25 levels for season one instantly yeah okay um so skins rewards unique items cosmetics how does it work though uh if you play enough and earn enough money then you can buy the next one for free is that no I mean like so the thing is is in fortnite you earn uh levels of the shallow of the battle pass by challenges in apex it's the leveling system yeah hey well your level 60 something right yeah 62 or 63 you would be two thirds done with the battle pass so it's hit level 100 in a three month span yeah and you will get everything right and then when the new season happens you start again yeah yeah so
Starting point is 02:38:20 then it becomes are you playing enough to have the battle pass be worth it are you playing not quite enough but if you skip those first 25 it'll be better you know like uh and then there's the version where you just buy it yeah but you'll never be able to buy the level 100 thing unless you play a shit out of the game right and if you play a shit ton of the game you also are making enough money to instead of buying those rewards you buy buy the next season buy or buy octane or because the pass is also in game currency yeah right got it okay um yeah I didn't I didn't buy I didn't buy mirage or or um caustic so yeah I was waiting to see what else would drop I'm probably gonna buy mirage and caustic I don't know about the battle pass though because
Starting point is 02:39:03 like I already have warframe which I play as a gas I am said dabbling in division I don't play apex more than once or twice a week okay right I'm playing it a lot I'm never gonna hit 100 at this it's like do I want to start playing yeah like I'm you know yeah yeah I'm playing it a lot uh and the the I'm I'm currently like fully bit with the the um I like a good fighting game I feel my weakness in how bad I aim yeah and I feel a strong desire to get better at that so I'm I'm playing how to improve at that uh play titanfall too okay same feel it's a little backwards same guns but modified in their effectiveness but ultimately you get to fight faster yeah but you get to fight more often training often like you want it like
Starting point is 02:40:01 that's that's it aim there's aim trainers and stuff out there there's lots of good advice and there's a couple videos addressing it but what it comes down to is probably the best way to practice your aim would be to just play titanfall too that's so weird so guess what I was doing yesterday yeah you know what how about that that's it's fun yeah um and I found and I remapped my hybrid controls to get them working on it so good times um so yeah that's that's I just that's fresh hey man it works so this is half of the the battle pass news the other half is like what is the goddamn actual 100 pieces of the past what it would they look like what is it yeah right yeah because it can I remember people were frothing out the mouth to get this info and it was getting
Starting point is 02:40:44 it's a big deal it's the hottest game man it is fully did I don't know if I mentioned it to you but you know epic reported a 48 loss of profit in the month that apex came out huh I didn't see that it's eating fortnite's lunch yeah it is straight up eating fortnite's which is why the reaction you saw was the hardest swerve ever of its fucking ping systems and revives and Hammond getting the ball kids like that reaction was so instantaneous right fucking epic was like I mean again they never fortnite never it had its own identity before it started taking others yeah like the moment it just started cribbing other shit it was like okay yeah this is our success rate this is how it works like that ball was so fucking reactionarily thrown in because man new season new shit everybody
Starting point is 02:41:38 please pay attention and it worked yeah the the viewers went back up the uh the you know and apex was going that was losing viewers and and players because people were but now guess what so apex is gonna bump back up now that people have a progression system that they can justify I'm a fucking sucker for progression man yeah yeah and you know what people that are suckers for progression uh that I play with that hit their cap were like yeah I'm kind of kind of done until the battle pass because what's the point right I'm not getting anything from my my my my prestige so sure get that I get having said the the implementation prior to this where you can hit level 100 and you literally don't even get the boxes anymore that's terrible that's a bad
Starting point is 02:42:20 implementation because the game came on hot yeah game came in real hot I mean even if you made it slowed down because your levels because level 102 is way harder to get to than level two yeah um it's like you can just make like a slower earning or like overwatch did that you know like they let you just prestige and it just takes longer each time but that's fine anyway um so yeah that's going on and we talked about octane already so we don't need to do it and whatnot and so on and so forth cool um I'm probably gonna like octane yeah because the health regeneration is really strong I bet yeah I haven't seen how fast it goes but any health regeneration would be appreciated uh we have the information that leaked about the next dragon ball fighters character
Starting point is 02:43:14 shout outs to hook gang god Goku he's gonna show you he's gonna help you find way let's kid Goku from GT you know what that's my favorite Goku even if it's Goku number nine that's that's another Goku and he's got a stick he's got the power bow and maybe he maybe he's got the the nimbus who knows maybe he'll turn into an uzaru that would be fun so if this was Goku from dragon ball and he was drawn all soft and shit right and they managed friends are gonna save the day his super was that shitty command man that he used to like hit the car with you know that one mm-hmm I'd be like the like the kid Goku that's basically
Starting point is 02:44:23 like a little munchkin yeah he looks like a dr slump like yeah I'd be like this sucks but I guess it's cool GT kid Goku is it's the worst of all possible futures it is it is it is well here's what it is is it's it's bending over backwards to avoid going back to the old old dragon ball because kid Goku from GT can still go Super Saiyan yeah and he can still power up and do all the stuff that you know he does in GT uh whereas old dragon ball would like have fun things like pterodactyls attacking there there and then monsters and cars and weird shit but you know dragon ball has so many characters there are so many fighters that they can choose from for this game there are so many and we got base Goku and base Vegeta and I was like that's awful
Starting point is 02:45:27 but I get it I guess this I'm now at that's awful and I don't get it because even if they were gonna pick fucking GT characters they could have picked Omega Shenron pan they could have picked pan baby they could have picked multiple different babies they could have picked like young teenager trunks they could have picked Vegeta with a mustache the it's so bad where the leaks were confirmed right that's that's this was one of the leaks um so that's done uh oob yeah oob oob would be cool oob is a young kid full of power that would have been fun they could have picked Bio Broly you know what though you know what is you know verse taught me um dragon ball fans our assholes want more Goku because it's amazing the noises that came out of our mouths were
Starting point is 02:46:35 different but we said the same thing isn't that amazing but the problem is is when I say dragon ball fans it's like what does that mean it's like okay well like that's a long that's a broad ass term but there's a there's a specific group of people that play only dragon ball not only dragon ball games but every dragon ball game no matter what it is no matter how it comes down and uh it's kind of like yeah I mean the same kinds of people who obsessed over like figurines of Rey and Asuka and made people think that that's what Evangelion was about despite the fact that the commodification of those girls' bodies is part of the themes of the show and it's inherently fucked up but how much money is that person spending on dragon ball versus the otaku market
Starting point is 02:47:18 shit again it's always the fucking otaku market shit again how much money are you spending on dragon ball are you buying that new rpg did you buy xeno verse two did you get the dlc are you getting this new other announcement that's coming out heroes i believe it's called no well then what what chance did you have right you're right so it's like the you know if you're feeding your market and you're feeding your market uh i will say that i wish this Goku was the Goku dlc that we first got yeah and i wish that was the end of it so that we would have had two very different Goku's and that'd be the end of it i would have loved if instead of base Goku we got this instead
Starting point is 02:48:06 and called it a day we've even got two zamasu's man uh yeah and he doesn't even have the gross arm so he's the same model yeah so um like i think i think it's it's it's pretty much become clear that like this is every dragon ball game and this is a probably i don't know how much it's like a i don't know how much it's a it's a it's a like are the manga people or Toriyama's people kind of going like this is what you should put in it or is it just entirely up to arksis like who knows we don't know like well we don't know but but i think that i would like to believe that it were it entirely up to arksis the crazy motherfuckers that wanted to make natto and dojima a team in p4a uh i want to believe it if it were up to them they would like to have variety yeah and they
Starting point is 02:49:00 would like to represent the full breadth of this fantastic gigantic world full of interesting characters we just did the turn as opposed to variants of your main character we just did tournament of power which added like 50 new characters and you took the main the main antagonist jiren and no one else not like kefla or what's it kefla and uh cauliflower khaliflah and kale none of them not that weird little sand kid not the nemekeans that were huge and buff and were like a hundred well i mean again leaks leaks imply that shit's coming not that rabbit motherfucker not the mother the old dude with the mustache not the magical girls and gojina you know and what not is there as well so there's a lot of these fusions as well the wolf dudes are there
Starting point is 02:49:56 they were cool um it's just so like okay but like here's the thing though right like popularity wise how happy would like fans be to see wolf dudes as opposed to it's another goku you know like it's just it's a weird fucking thing i know variety if they're more interesting than not variety it's the spice of life if they actually like the thing they like they would like it the problem here's okay i'm gonna make a distinction there's dragon ball fans and there are goku fans and this applies to everything supplies to every property there's street fighter fans and there's ryu fans there's da there's devil may cry fans and daunte fans that's people who shit their ass when nero was playable from half the game that's really true right that's a very true true and goku fans
Starting point is 02:50:48 buy goku merchandise yeah they buy goku dvds they buy goku there's naruto fans and there's naruto fans yeah exactly yeah naruto fans will keep watching boruto but fans of naruto are like fuck you boruto i'm a fan of naruto because he's a bitch i fucking hate naruto how is how is master roshi not a shuin he even got powered up to fight in the tournament of power this should be master roshi it really should and he should have a super where he turns into jackie tune yeah yeah um he should have a super where he dropped some magazine on the ground yeah you know play a little game path path yeah i don't know hey okay elie where's launch when is launch gonna be with her motorcycle oh man she
Starting point is 02:51:42 launched launch oh she mean sneezes it's a random rip off whatever let her do air motorcycle combos and she sneezes and then it's all powerful oh where am i oh i sneezed again i'm a bitch it is it is comically easy to come up with fun ideas for characters that are more interesting than more sayings i mean we've already we've already agreed that we are pulling in non-canon movie characters jenanba jenanba jenanba jenanba jenanba jenanba what they what they what what was what was puff puff puff called in in english was a puff puff that's what everyone's saying okay dragon quest thing i think because in i because i read the french books and in the french books it was called puff puff yeah that makes sense puff puff okay well anyway anyway well that's what that's this
Starting point is 02:52:30 yeah it seems terrible you're all stupid there you go i'm gonna fucking i'm in there regardless i'm in there still then you're part of the problem yeah i like i like the fighting game you like a lot it's a very good fighting you like goku's well i like that go that's that is the most interesting oh yeah gt oh yeah gt huh gt's the shit oh man you're right here right here woolly goku in dragon ball gt is the most interesting goku has ever been in he said it i didn't make him say it actually shut up don't you dare uh i really like teenage goku with bare feet what's that like piccolo piccolo yeah that yeah right before piccolo that's a cool
Starting point is 02:53:20 one yeah because when he he gets his fucking ass beat in that that part yeah of the of the manga goku doing the poses yeah the real martial arts poses world strongest yeah yeah yeah i agree real young yeah that's my if they were gonna base goku i would have actually preferred that version and you never see that one no you never see that one no no one even fucking models it i completely agree uh we had this week a uh confirmation that uh the bloody palace will be returning on april first yeah and that's great there's a piece of news that i need to discuss on this that i'm gonna there is a significant amount of speculation and data that leads me to believe that there may be more coming on april first than bloody palace okay there are a build you can some folks were
Starting point is 02:54:24 worried about april first as a date being a weird date choice you could it's foolishness day hey woolly i'm gonna give you a little data mining little tip here okay did you know that the variable for devil may cry characters in dmc is one two and three ones narrow twos uh dante and threes v yeah so you can actually just go into the file and change it per level and just play v in in dante's levels play uh nero in uh in v's levels fine yeah you can set it to four and it works and everything works and there's a full move list there i'm gonna need you to stop right there okay but april first may be bringing more than expected better hurry up
Starting point is 02:55:20 so uh that's what's coming then and uh there's also talk of i do you think it's possible that the fact that the bloody palace no because it wasn't ready they could have just had it and let it be a step yeah but i was like could the time frame also be a grace period maybe yeah maybe but but yeah they could have just had it in there there's also a guy who's a pretty prolific leaker and called a lot of the stuff about the final game back at e3 says there's gonna be a ladies night dlc yay that will be a trish and lady and lucha coming someday that it was in the plans yeah if real if real i've been reading that prequel novel if real would bring the playable cast up to seven which is a lot you know my expectations were three maybe four yeah which
Starting point is 02:56:34 is still ridiculous because before this we only got two if you were to will go above that number that would be exceeding my expectations very substantially one might say they max acted them um well apparently lucia really wants dotes dick yeah she does oh yeah i read like she's in there but it's like sorry you've been waiting around all this time and you're kind of immortal and you're not really a person um he's like i don't know what sex is that that sucks and she's like you're an idiot dude can you just just give it and he's like yeah yeah yeah and she's like no but give me that sparta juice fucking give it though and he's like nah man i got you'll stab yourself with anything but you won't stab anyone else yeah me and ball rod got a play over here
Starting point is 02:57:22 he cares more about fucking his nunchucks yeah then he does ball rod by the way which he whips out and then fucking breaks in that fight seriously yeah he breaks ball rod he pulled no he's in fighting ball rod in the prequel novel yeah dante pulls out cerberus yeah and breaks it oh that's what happens he shatters cerberus fighting against ball rock oh i guess ball rocks pretty cool then yeah yeah yeah um in fact how cool is ball rock he's pretty hey you know what he seems pretty cool yeah in fact i wouldn't mind hearing some more ball rock because that's a fun character wait does that mean cerberus is dead uh i don't know i don't know that's weird i have yet to find out how well no i mean that cerberus is dead okay yeah like because i don't yeah because i gave his
Starting point is 02:58:15 soul and turned into a weapon i know dante has a fucking three with three prong nunchuck in this game but i haven't seen that part yet so i don't know how that happens but the original cerberus he pulls it out and he says hey puppy don't worry i didn't forget about you oh that's sweet and then fights and shatters it oh no while and while fighting fucking rock you know he snuffs that pupper oh no for some boxing gloves that talk wahoo pizza and you know what those talking boxing gloves they like to talk in fact they showed up on our subreddit what and posted a thread because the voice actor for ball rock basically went in did an am a had so much fun talking to the dmc fans that he said okay i'll record some extra bonus lines for you guys he joined the the the
Starting point is 02:59:03 long-standing library of voice actors who go why you want to hear some stupid shit and uh people suggested some lines on the reddit slash don't make right group so he puts he did some he did some lines including a custom style announcer yeah which is really great jackpot and the time has come and so yeah so uh he he has a bunch of them all available in a little download pack which again really cool that he posted this on our devil may cry and then the best friends fucking subreddit do you know why that is right because we're the other capital of devil may cry well you know how that happened no you type in devil may cry into the reddit search bar and you get our devil may cry and then you get to best friends play wow that would explain it yeah you all i think we're
Starting point is 02:59:54 number eight for the word japanese are we the capital of devil may cry we are the capital of not devil may cry devil may cry right that's why the subreddit is unusable to you right now yes this is true and this is a good reason for that to happen yeah that's the best possible reason so i don't think we're by i don't think we're by any means the biggest dmc fans but i think what we have done is motivate our following the most effectively motivation is important it is important now you will feel the subreddits power uh i love that boy that is a good boy so um when when this came out uh what he mentioned alongside of it is you've got the pc version yeah mod that shit in just just jam it in there have some fun
Starting point is 03:00:52 and he even did the um the effects on it so that it sounds like balrog he put the work he didn't just do it like him his normal voice and then say like go customize this later like he actually put the work in and got it to sound like full balrog with the effects so that's fun and what a cool dude well it's just her yeah so um yeah i think the post i i'll put a link to it in the in the podcast description in the thingy yeah yeah yeah there we go right on want to know the name devil may cry oh man i also found out uh the lady's voice actor is uh the singer for jump in uh mario jump up super star that's lady yay isn't that a cross pollination
Starting point is 03:01:42 right there that's fun that's fun uh i guess speaking of fun that's a nice segue uh generally speaking when you want to make a game more fun you level up can you can you hold on a second i'm gonna i'm gonna need to fucking i'm gonna need to use the washroom for a minute before this one all right go empty i'm gonna empty go empty out uh i'll i'll i'll you yeah yeah yeah i'll run another i'll run a nonsense one in the meantime uh so or maybe one or two quick ones i'll get a quick ready for this all right we're gonna get a quick one out there hey quick one out there uh power angels power rangers battle for the grid uh that power rangers fighting game like we got some footage of it now it's that mobile game that's not a
Starting point is 03:02:36 mobile game um they put some trailers out we can take a look at it uh yeah it looks like it looks like they're making a fighting game it definitely does look like they're upgrading a mobile game a little bit it looks like they're upgrading a mobile game a little bit i'm not gonna lie but i'll give it a look see i'll give it a look see and see what's going on because um i don't know you know like well we we we might i don't know if the system is fun or not but it looks like a it looks like a pretty basic ass mobile game fighting game type thing i bet you were seeing auto combos all over the place i don't know hard to say i think show me show me a controller a move list right show me what's going on with how you play and fight in this game in terms of like complexity and
Starting point is 03:03:21 simplicity and uh i'll be able to tell you a lot but i'm a fan of gold are i like old reader repulses army so we're seeing in this trailer as well like some really hefty crazy um uh fgc style marvel combos we got like cross-ups and assists that tag in so like it seems like there's gonna be the kind of nonsense that um some marvel heads are all about in particular dirty ass cross-ups so i want to see where this goes uh but yeah there's definitely an overall feeling though of upgraded mobile game that you can't can't get away from also shout outs to the fact that instead of saying green ranger and and red ranger it's saying jason tommy and so on and so forth so that's a lot of fun uh yeah battle for the grid oh yeah they're in create then they've also got supers that are
Starting point is 03:04:18 megazords uh uh fucking coming in to punch and do giant drills and there's a dragon's or tail doing a drill attack and whatnot so yeah anyway so power speaking of power need more um power rangers have lots of power they've got the power the power is on their side eyed you know it uh generally when you play games and you level up and you uh get better items they give you more power and you know that's what that's where the fun is uh when that doesn't happen it's very strange and uh one might say confusing to imagine that nonsensical even that your game would not allow the leveling would not allow stronger items to actually
Starting point is 03:05:22 make you any stronger so you know what deep deep deep down however math is telling us that apparently anthems loot doesn't matter so willy how deep did you dive in on this um i read the headline i skimmed and i went yep did you assume that i would all that i would math that's down 100 percent you were right problem is uh the math is actually fairly complex but isn't this an act isn't the real problem that the math doesn't matter so it's not even that the math is wrong it's that it doesn't mean anything the numbers mean nothing the answer is no actually the popping up number damage numbers our values are lies it's it's worse than that it's worse than that so fallout 76 has been our punching bag and i crazy talked to this situation by saying
Starting point is 03:06:22 anthem can never be fallout 76 that it'll be years before there's another fallout 76 because fallout 76 is broken head to toe on every level right yes the difference here is that there was one thing fallout 76 was not actually that broken about and it was its core design because its core design was just lifted from the existing fallout games right yes you bore them around you shoot a gun it's just that every technical aspect of the game was broken it really needs to be stated at the beginning of this conversation that the the problems that we are about to discuss with anthem people are calling crazy talking i don't know why whatever by design these are not technical issues these are design mistakes so the tip of the
Starting point is 03:07:17 iceberg was that the default gun yes is stronger than the strongest masterwork you could ever create so the reason for that is that because guns in their rarity are given certain power values and those power values are to be added into the equation for your total power thus determining the amount of damage you do and that the damage numbers are actually associated with an arbitrary constant associated with that instead of the real damage being done the the nuts and bolts of this is that the starter gun by itself turned out to be doing more damage than anything despite the numbers saying otherwise now the deal with this was that the numbers appear to be scaling off of the stated damage values of the gun but
Starting point is 03:08:09 people have reversed design this the reason why the starter gun is so strong is so that lower level players can play in games with higher level players and not get blown back yes and instead of associating this to the output of stats from your gun character ability whatever they just decided to make the starter gun the highest internalized like hidden number is could go one that it well i play a lot of loot games and schluders right correct i played borderlands i played warframe i played diablo i play everyone knows how to do this you say how many people are in the game two there are two players okay you normalize their output right you normalize the output of the enemies and then you fudge it a little bit so enemies don't just die instantly i'm
Starting point is 03:09:10 level 99 i'm level one you have a curve to scale it if the levels are too far apart the session is just not going to work very well because there's only so weak you can make the enemies yada yada yada every game deals with it differently but you normalize the statistical output that comes out of your character they've decided instead to normalize your character on top of that it was then discovered after that the level one rifle was the best gun in the game bar none it would kill almost any enemy in four hits instead of six that was the number of shots was the determining factor because of course it is that's the real damage the game has no stats so the game does not have a stat sheet for you to look at you know where you'd see your paper doll
Starting point is 03:09:53 and your stats doesn't have one that's suspicious yeah the guns have numbers the guns have numbers but nothing else right so they went okay well what if we start pulling off more shit what happens turns out the level one gun if it's the only thing equipped on your character now shoots up to stronger than anything in the game it's not just the best this is the most damage you can possibly do ever ever because wearing equipment yes like normalizes that number it's even dumber than that based on okay it's even stupider so in a normal game and i'm fudging the math for explanation purposes say well you have five pieces of armor your head your chest your arms your legs and your feet right yes say you're naked yes right in dark souls that means you'll
Starting point is 03:10:46 have a defensive one one one one one and one that means you have a defensive five depraved right depraved you'll get a piece of helmet now your your armor is 20 on the helmet so now you have a defensive 24 right yes fair enough that means your defense stat is now 24 24 got it right if you need to normalize it or give a succinct power level which is what these games do they give you an item level they would give you the item level of all your things average yes so the average of 2111 and one would be what at seven or eight or whatever the fuck right in anthem when you don't have anything equipped in the stat it doesn't give you a value of one or zero or five it doesn't count the slot at all and removes divisors from the equation so your average becomes the
Starting point is 03:11:35 only thing on your equipment which is the highest possible value in the game of the strong possible gun the value it actually is is 75 the items range in value from 35 to 75 that's the range they go for the weakest is being naked should give you should cost you being naked a zero point a zero slot or a one point slot so let's say you have five i'm going to just do the math right now say you have five pieces are i don't know what is an anthem but say you have five right and the gun is one of them yes right 75 plus 35 plus 35 plus 35 plus 35 is equal to 215 divided by five five equals a power level of 43 which people are actually reporting with all the masterwork shit yes right yes but what if you took all those other pieces off you would now have a power level of 75 right which is more
Starting point is 03:12:31 than the game is even equipped to handle right so taking that's taking that 75 and let's say you let's say you had zero equipment yeah you'd add plus zero plus zero plus zero plus zero divided divided by five and then you would get 75 divided by five which would be 15 but in this case it's not even counting them so you just get 75 so unless you have something that is just as strong as the strongest item you have you should unequip it which makes the gear system completely pointless as the only piece of gear that matters for any character is the single highest piece of gear they have and because everyone gets the strongest item in the game due to statistical foibles in the level one rifle it makes the entire game actually pointless every single element of the game
Starting point is 03:13:25 feeds into a completely top to bottom designed wrong loot system and thus the whole game is pointless in fact the way the math works on it as you level up and get or get better gear you get weaker over time because of the way of the division works this is the master botch this is the pinnacle there is no botch big bigger than this this is there's no bug bigger so it's funny because follow 76 is a billion technical issues right this is two or three design problems that are because remember when we were talking and you were like they've turned games around right and i was being a little too harsh on it they have to redo the whole game over the video game doesn't video it they have to do the whole video game doesn't work it like it it it's not that it
Starting point is 03:14:18 doesn't work it's that it's pointless it doesn't there's no game and in order to obfuscate these problems they associated the number that pops up off of enemies with an arbitrary behind the scenes constant to fudge damage numbers what does it look like when you take all your armor off i don't know i don't know just the like i've been looking at the math i don't care about the game because is it coincidentally hilarious to go i guess it's just a basic yeah but it means basic but like generic armor with the generic naked next next to the god king with the flowing cape and all that shit that's what i'm saying it's like being depraved being naked with a fucking uh stick is the best build in the world yeah he's radiating damage and artorias is standing there
Starting point is 03:15:06 like a fucking oh my god um although i'm guessing like you just also but like that's just damage output yeah versus it's not you taking hits and defense is a whole other thing i don't even know but the main the main crux of this is damage output right um there's also a bird of pygmy so easily there's there's also a bunch of bugs in the game where you can cancel your alts and give yourself infinite health regeneration and but that's that's just a you know bug but but like that's they they would have that's the master but they have there is no they have to redesign every single numerical element of the entire game of the whole game they have to redesign how things drop at what rates they have to redesign how guns interact with enemy information how they
Starting point is 03:15:56 are just yeah it like destiny came out and was fucked up but this is the next level there is no level beyond this i said it before but it bears repeating now that we've like elaborated originally it was just the gun was too strong and now this is another level of that yeah uh this is the evolution this is the fucking you put a you put a stone you touch the stone to that bug yeah and it evolved yeah uh this is a thousand like i've never smelt the the scent more of multiple a-class bugs being patch fixed quickly before release yeah like like band-aids over band-aids on critical critical issues that are deep within the game like the fact that you're this nor the entire normalizing solution and the fact that it's localized to your body in that's a bug like that was because
Starting point is 03:16:52 something was found to be horribly busted before that and the numbers before that were found to be inaccurate so we have to make them more accurate just fudge it so they look right and that happened to be before that when we did show you your cat your character's normal value your character's values and they were nonsense so we have to hide those because there's no benefit to showing you numbers that don't mean anything because before that we tried to make the numbers work and the didn't so it was easier to you know what i mean like you're seeing a rolling cascade down a pigeon hole of one issue being overcorrected that it completely forgets the rest of the game designed in the process of fixing that one like problem it's it's beyond not learning from other
Starting point is 03:17:35 games mistakes in this genre they're inventing new types of mistakes yeah yeah yeah you're you're pioneering this has never happened i have i have played almost every single one of these types of games to ever come out and i've never encountered this that's it's incredible that's actually incredible wow and i would like to add one little tidbit that i can only go into so much a lot of people are saying man this game was in six years of development i can't believe it came out like this okay two things one this version of the game was assuredly not actually in development for six years no this is said it last time yeah however i have look at me real close i have strong suspicions that the game is actually much older than six years
Starting point is 03:18:24 much older than you could possibly think and which makes it even more disastrous someone's definitely been thinking about javelins for a long time quite possibly well and that's all i have to say on that matter until the next one i don't even know what they could break now it's they've broken people's consoles they've uh they've broken how is this another story after it kills your console how do you hold my beer Fallout 76 Fallout 76 didn't break people's hardware it just sucks in a fraction of the time because Fallout 76 was happening like that that was a that's that ship was sinking for months this was this is new and wow good on 14 days you know clap clap for ubisoft because they're
Starting point is 03:19:32 mopping it up with division i played division on sunday i had a cue to get in i wonder why well um it's created a new form of beer to hold hold my keg yeah javelins can hold real big kegs yeah because they're strong um yeah they're gonna have to do work wonders to pull themselves out of that hole they put out a community letter that's like we're here for the long haul and it addressed like literally nothing speaking of being here for the long haul thank you no man's sky beyond apparently this is going to add multiplayer so after no man's sky next came out i didn't hear about it but there was an underwater update yeah there was that got dropped uh in uh adding like fucking not a watershed yeah swimming swimplay
Starting point is 03:20:41 i'd adding water sports to this why you do this and uh and so anyway uh yeah they basically just went yo like we're putting in actual mmo-ness to the game but it's not an mmo yeah just like warframe's not an mmo it's not an mmo and uh destiny's not an mmo and this is connected and devil my cry is not an mmo it's a shared shared interactive experience you know you know like dark souls fuck off uh new social and multiplayer experience and powering players to but so yeah now you can actually run into people in no man's sky so it seems like the uh the game that was promised is finally actually going to exist maybe not with this one but it appears that there's a going to keep working on this yeah
Starting point is 03:21:34 until they die well it appears it appears that like um in a in a very strong bid to not be known as molly new to yeah or molly do that's a different thing it's a different thing isn't that weird yeah it would have been great in this context but it doesn't work it like to not be to not go down as another peter mollin you yeah um it looks like hello games is gonna be building up to the promise yeah uh whether it kills them or not so yeah so you'll be able to say yeah they they eventually got there they did a bunch of big lies but they did work their asses off and get there eventually they got there eventually that's the shrugging i guess that's as good as you can get right the turtle cross the finish line um cool yeah i hopped in no man's sky a little while ago
Starting point is 03:22:31 about six seven months ago and it was much improved i have i have respect for the uh games that have insane tail ends in development um i just obviously always hope that they have a practical business let me let me tell you about the new energy colors and warframe you can you can you make purple and green if you've got a practical business solution that lets you tail end the game forever um sure man do what you gotta do you know do it rock band should have done yeah well speaking of infinite tail ends yacht club announces something that is not shovel night what get out of town i will shortly when i go to packs but before then they announced this four packs four packs so i'll find out there what's going on but this is not developed by yacht club
Starting point is 03:23:36 it's published by yacht club okay uh there's nothing but a screenshot it's a double looking screenshot though of a cool looking silhouette with a sword looking over a destroyed post-apocalyptic city as blue and there's a piece of text on their tweet that says something along the lines of like the shadow stands looking over the city or something like that secarro demastered yeah yeah exactly like who the fuck knows man some some fucking some cool new shit cool new shit i like yacht club i do and they've only done one thing and they killed it well i feel like plague inspector and king night like those are all i feel like they're separate thing they've they deserve their own commendation they've only made one world yeah and they've killed it yeah um
Starting point is 03:24:31 um cool we'll find out soon uh although again not developed published yeah so that's coming soon i'm excited yeah i could go for like a yacht club developed like side scrolling ninja game not developed see they fooled me see that hey do you see that did you see how that worked god damn it i could go for a yacht club developed ninja game did it again hmm the power of the logo do you still don't get yacht club though as a i mean do you want to just talk about the trailer because i wasn't gonna which trailer secarro like i didn't docket it it's just a new trailer what what are you talking about i thought you're going like speaking of ninja games no man
Starting point is 03:25:23 okay well it's a good trailer there's a there's a probably i don't know what this there's the most interesting mundane enemy i've ever seen in that because it's just a bowl with a timber strapped to its horns that is burning on both ends making the bore very upset uh sorry the the bowl very upset that wasn't even what that was cool what got me was the other uh trailer where you're fighting some some cool enemy and then it jumps onto a fucking string that you can only see in the reflection oh yeah grandma grandma bat or whatever and i go oh this fight just went from like a seven two one eleven like that aspect yeah that's like a 90 year old rope walking he's very grandma that was fucking beautiful i'm like that looks sick already right like walking
Starting point is 03:26:19 on the ropes walking on the anime ropes hell yeah all about that anyway um no i was actually gonna say that the um striking while the irons fucking whatever you know not even real dude i just what is the iron dude i don't know i don't get it i don't get it dragons dogma animated series coming in netflix capcom i think this is capcom jumping the gun on devil may cry and just assuming it's already gonna be a huge success and just going fuck it let's just get the rest in let's get this going and i bet you i bet you they're talking to someone about monster hunter even though the live action movie is happening so one they really should have talked to somebody about monster hunter before dragons talk you think yeah i do um and the other thing as a big ass fan of dragon's dogma
Starting point is 03:27:16 it's just a berserk ripoff in the story department and the story is weird and badly told so like this is capcom wants a generic fantasy anime this is dark i mean side games can do it yeah but that's it yeah like nobody cares about dragons dogma because of the dragon or the dogma i heard it it stole their hearts yeah it did they care about it because this is cool game you just stingers to goblins yeah weird really weird never would have expected generic fantasy looking generic thing yeah to go that way uh although um you said that it gets more of an identity with that extra content yeah so i should mention the dragon's dogma too is basically coming after dmc five right like it's you know gave an interview a little while ago and was like yeah i was i could either made dmc five or
Starting point is 03:28:10 dragon's dogma too and dmc five needed it more so uh yep well and it's like okay it's you know said a lot of things prior to dmc five that's true he did say a lot of things didn't he you know who else says a lot of things rubin langdon i love that i've been pushing the the the narrative that voice actors don't give a fuck then we have guy see he blow open his own fucking pr for the game he's working on a day before its announcement and then we get every couple weeks we get hey voice actor says a bunch of shit they probably shouldn't have so now it's rubin langdon's turn mr alien conspiracy himself mr daunte mr wahoo woohoo crazy pizza living in a flesh uh hideaki it's who no wanted to resign after dmc devil may cry says daunte's voice actor yeah so
Starting point is 03:29:07 matt walker of capcom came out to clarify some of these statements he did he did and uh rubin sounds like he kind of hurt them second hand honestly but the the the gist of what i can gather from both of these combined is that it's you know did not feel he had a place at capcom after the dmc reboot now apparently that is not because he hated it and clearly he did not if you play the actual dmc five he did not he clearly there is a bunch of stuff from that game in dmc five there is clearly good ideas that were there that were cribbed for this game yep um but he felt like he just didn't have any desire to remain at capcom and the part of rubin's story that matt walker doesn't detract in any way is capcom was like no no no no we need you what do you want we
Starting point is 03:30:04 will give you anything you want what do you want just tell us what you want and he said okay and he says look at marvel you know what i want and they're like playstation all stars and he said marvel look at it you see what i did there and they're like okay and they let him make his dream game and then they were like apparently he asked for power he give me more power he asked he asked for devil may cry five and to be left the fuck alone with its development and budget yes and rubin implies that that is not all he asked for and that he got everything he could have ever wanted one might assume that the dlc plans possibly or lack thereof yeah might have been in those demands sure um it's it's very likely that for at least one more project it's you know has
Starting point is 03:31:03 a metaphorical golden ticket to do with as he pleases at that company and considering the track record that uh has been happening at capcom where the new the old team that wants survival horror to come back oh re7 success the crazy internal super fans that go come on let us do remake come on my my my my massive success the creator that's like just let me make my fucking game guys massive success the monster hunter dude who's like we need to put this on fucking consoles god damn it the biggest success ever in the history of capcom it looks like capcom has and will you set it a long time ago and you've said it multiple times you are a hundred percent right capcom's internal talent is second only to nintendo in terms of just people they got there
Starting point is 03:32:00 that make it the good game it's there's no question straight up and they just appear to be letting them make whatever the fuck they want and they're just rolling in it um just the scrooge mcduck into the pile of gold in it some people seem to be under the impression that uh like we were in a timeline where devil may cry was dead and that was just the end of it right and to be fair it felt like that for a while that's how it felt for a long time right now here's the thing let me introduce you to what i call a power nightmare timeline okay power nightmare this is the timeline where itzuno leaves and he's gone thing uh devil may cry is not dead right instead it's just it's and and and you're not getting another shitty reboot but what you're getting is reboot part two where it's actually
Starting point is 03:32:56 a solid game except we continue with the reboot universe so gameplay wise it's totally great yeah but we're stuck with those awful characters but you're in dino land forever that's that's a power nightmare for real that's that is the actual place we were heading i don't like that i don't like that at all you know you wait long enough and the sequel will happen and it'll be good that's the fucking power nightmare oh i don't like it and the gameplay is awesome but it's don't a or dino forever oh no i don't like that yep that's awful yeah so uh i'm very excited for dragon's dorgma too me um anime even hot was standing oh ruben ruben why were you in south america to get shot what were you doing down there
Starting point is 03:33:54 working on his royal guard he was apparently filming a documentary apparently filming a documentary about the truth humanity let's say the truth wow who who pizza um we can give a couple shoutouts to some new announced games yeah some shoutouts new announced games solar ash kingdom what an amazing god damn name from the people that brought you hyper light drifter there's a short trailer it looks good but there's not much known other than hey hyper light drifter was one of my favorite games ever main character is art it's i thought it was the drifter for a second world is art yeah music is art heart machine continues to art at you and and uh yeah that's it just it's a very brief like one minute teaser i'd say of like what looks like the hyper
Starting point is 03:34:56 light drifter art style turned into 3d in 3d exactly uh i really like this this this art style is becoming more common where everything is super flat yeah i really dig it yeah yeah you're um it's like rhyme and um um the witness hob too uh there's a couple of games that have this sort of look to them that's really really satisfying uh less so the witness but like clearly 3d but still very like flat and a lot of things are gradients yeah i really dig it uh cool main character skates down a mountain and jumps to fucking stab a big ol eyeball solar ash kingdom what a great name what we've and just like that a naming convention has been in uh uh created lunar ash kingdom like no no no no like hyper light drifter solar ash kingdom
Starting point is 03:35:51 i see bup bup bup just like that all of your games are now this or the not maybe not but it'd be cool you know yeah and then you can make a little trilogy of bup bup bup yeah um it's kind of like how you you know a bond movies like name because it's a weird phrase just based on the way the phrasing is exactly yeah uh so yeah that's fucking sick uh shout out to alex preston we got the um trailer for uh there's just yeah the kickstarter popped up for this thing called this this game called mass builder mas builder i did not see this um hey that's a robot that's a robot it's a mecha thing pretty early looking stages uh right now but it's a cool robot that fights against some things that look like they're the enemies from twilight princess a little bit that's
Starting point is 03:36:56 a weird max but okay and you you mecha fight these things and you use your like sword arm sword arm like Gundam virtual and it's a robot game yeah it's a robot game and you robot uh he shot the and then you can customize with tons of parts and you can put it all together and you're gonna fucking get well if i didn't know better you'd be coming off like a mecha fan right now well uh i like robots and there's a lot of robot parts you can put on your thing so uh mass builder is on kickstarter if you want to check it out uh mas is an acronym for something i don't know what it is um and uh yeah they're looking for uh 42k oh that's quite low so it's not that but there you go um any rich people this thing could fund that all yourself or just you know
Starting point is 03:37:48 or you could you know give it to us you could do that take a look take a look see see if that's always an option uh there was uh and then there's a thing that happened in china called project chinese hero oh project china hero was a playstation event where they had a roundup of a bunch of uh chinese developed games um and there's some interesting stuff shown off uh some artsy looking stuff yeah uh and then some wacky looking stuff like f i s t nice so uh in particular f i s t is being described as a diesel punk metroidvania that sounds fucking cool that's a mouthful you are a rabbit i do appreciate the the just random word in front of the word punk like i remember monster hunter being described as cave punk yeah yeah uh diesel punk it conjures a
Starting point is 03:38:45 fairly specific inner uh image if that image is final fantasy seven then you are correct yeah pretty much because the opening shot holy shit that is just man that is just midgar is just midgar uh and you got a bunch of furry animal anthropomorphic bunnies living in this world fuck yeah very very midgar give me that shit give me that bunny midgar um street lights are neon and they're dropping sparks on things they're flickering no actual sense but but they're flickering there's trains and grime everywhere oh my god this is just like the ff7 intro with bunny yeah yeah this is really overt and it's really really on the nose and what you've got is a main character that is uh a saggy ojimbo looking motherfucker of course he is with a giant robotic fist not on his hands
Starting point is 03:39:40 but on his back as a third arm cool and that fist can punch things and so you go through this side scroll while you're really punching the fuck out of those bunny people you beat the shit out of them as you side scroll through this diesel punk world i want to pet the bunny um he doesn't seem to like being pet oh man anyway so the trailer kind of shows off how you can zip through guys air combo them fist big fist powers uh eventually you get to a boss type thing and uh yeah it looks like it's gonna be a fun game yeah fist uh and then there's a little stinger at the end of the of the trailer where uh show a leg well no actually i'm like where else is this gonna go and you see your little rabbit boy gets hit and he gets back up and he turns his big old fist
Starting point is 03:40:29 into a drill of course he does so that fist is gonna become all kinds of weapons and that looks pretty juicy that looks pretty juicy i like it yeah i like it i like diesel punk yeah it's a good name i like it i like diesel punk metroidvania games business seems like particularly astute in coming up with like descriptors like new descriptors for genres uh last quickie what's turn a rock up to i don't know boy i sure hope it's left for dead because i don't give a shit about anything else well good news what it's not left for dead oh it's back for blood all right okay back for blood co-op zombie first person shooter coming to everything the fact that
Starting point is 03:41:32 they're making this under wb and not valve is like actually fucking fuck valve fuck them so uh it's being uh quote the quote is it's being designed up from the ground up as an original premium title sure whatever you say buddy which you've got to say nowadays uh and uh it's basically they're basically saying they're taking everything we learned from left for dead and we're we're doing we're doing it again but we're doing it modern day playing playing left for dead is some of the best times i've ever had in a game that those games were astonishing they're so amazing i had a weird thing i you know what here's to be fair i never played two right but i played one uh i did a few runs of it yeah had fun felt completely satisfied yeah never
Starting point is 03:42:24 really wanted to go back in uh for me um i only i played the the co-op a few times per stage and then 99 of my left for dead time was spent entirely in the versus mode and every zombie shooter that came out that didn't have a verse but i'm like i don't care i want to jump on people to hunter i want to yank people with the smoker that's what i want to do reloading pills here man zoe watch your ass yeah it was uh it was fun but then i was done yeah but a lot of people real happy to see although that name is terrible it's quite bad that is an atrocious name um good thing they told us it was a premium new title because otherwise i would have thought that was a mobile game yeah and it almost sounds like it's like it's a name
Starting point is 03:43:18 that's named it's like it's almost like the studio is telling you its intentions as opposed for as opposed to the game's name itself yeah back for blood but uh yeah co-op zombie title on the way um zombies pretty overdone creative zombie classes never overdone still fun still fun take some letters hey if you want to send in a letter you gotta first of all there's no you know it gotta be electronic letter electronic mail and then gotta go to your email client it's probably gmail hit uh in the uh two parts uh send it to at uh uh a fucking castle super beast mail at gmail.com that's castle super beast mail at gmail.com then we'll then we'll you'll look at him probably on his phone uh maybe on the laptop he'll skim him we'll see one that
Starting point is 03:44:21 has an interesting topic or tear or just pile of shit then i'll read a little bit like this dear lord scream beasts hey what up man when i was listening to your discussion regarding how seeing some of your products affected people's health prompted you guys to stay away uh i was reminded of one of my old friends in middle school who drank monster every day yeah got so bad to the point we're in high school he literally had a small heart attack and now has heart palpitations cool has to be careful with what he eats it's prompted me to cut down on monster significantly as i was heading down that road wanted to share the story keep it real get motivated daniel thank you i ain't ever getting heart palpitations from red bullsucket monster
Starting point is 03:45:03 i'm gonna drink 10 of these just to spite that heart palpitation hey work it off for the workout yeah no don't work out and then you drink at the same time that's bad yeah that's actually quite bad for you um monster sucks apartment subpar pets yo what up i don't quite get that one but i'll live kira here a long time fan first time woolly bothered to look at my email nice after the announcement of the evo lineup and notable absence of melee my first reaction was to look at melee players bitch and moan yeah unfortunately most of the melee players gladly accepted that they weren't on the main stage and remained level headed that's true there were a specific set of negative comments they couldn't help but laugh at however yes these were people complaining about
Starting point is 03:45:45 how sam show and unist paid their way into evo and that it was a mockery of the dedication melee has while insanely insulting to the dedication of the unist community the idea that s and k and french bread had the money to pay people off to bribe their way into evo was hilarious and shows how unaware a lot of melee is regarding other communities after all that my question is have you ever seen someone display such a level of ignorance or lack of knowledge that you couldn't help but laugh keep up for our podcast hope we can get to five the god kira for anyone mad i'm also a smash player i live on the internet brah i see that shit daily well step one sam show was probably actually like if not in cash but in influence like sorry but this is probably that it was very
Starting point is 03:46:28 likely that this brand new unlike non-existent game yeah that from a revised franchise that we have no guarantees on probably was a deal of some sort unist however that's absurd and yes that's that's laughable to think that french bread money got that slot you know uh what's real fun is seeing a ton of uh fgc players switch over to unist for the first time ever oh yeah uh where basically the which pretty much guarantees that it confirms that the evo lineup will change the the conversation yeah right some people will follow that and um you know it's an interesting topic because you know you know the argument of whether or not language is descriptive or proscriptive whether language should just simply describe or inform it's funny because
Starting point is 03:47:20 i look at evo and it is that argument should evo describe what is currently played or should it proscribe suggestions as to what should be looked at french bread's inclusion with unist is like hey guys well maybe take a look at unist is is evo a community run event or is it a privately run event i don't know because i think the real answer it is privately run by members of the community guess what what i don't know at one point in time it was definitely the former yeah it's hard to say where it's at at this point it's very complex but that would basically be your answer wouldn't it yeah uh that being said i'm so happy to see you just get that attention and i'm really happy that prior to this event like around late last year uh i basically went
Starting point is 03:48:27 why am i not playing under night this game looks great it's very fun to play there's characters i think are awesome in it it's full of gibberish that makes me laugh i should really start playing under night and i went to a couple of uh meetups and asked some of the guys to show me how to play under night and they did and i had a really good time with it and i was like this game fucking deserves it and that's when i started talking about it again yeah and it seems like like somehow the timelines made this game besides my random spark of just out of nowhere fucking this thing yeah right and then the tutorials that are great it got shouted out for being one of the best tutorials in fighting games ever yeah and suddenly now it's just everyone's
Starting point is 03:49:11 going yeah fucking under night embarrassed right even solid snake told people to play unis he did though it was through cameo so you know this also is really weird yeah solid snakes ask cheeks are dummy thick they're very thick they're alerting the guards uh so anyway yeah to answer your question however um there's things that are so stupid that uh what was it was it like they make you laugh yeah stupid and ignorant the level of ignorance that the lack of knowledge can help make you laugh i to this day and i know some folks are probably like just like let it go and i'm like it's it's never been more let go but the idea is still insanely hilarious to me that microsoft would pay us for killer instinct type back when the xbox was first coming out
Starting point is 03:50:06 as the xbox one like the idea that excitement for the game we love because it's killer instinct and it turns out it's really fun and a good fighter which it the game was like the anti xbox sentiment at the time which shifted so hard at the time was like fuck this console if you love it you gotta be on the payroll it's like man the hive mind is hilarious yeah dude and and now that it's so long forgotten it's so long we were so long we're so far beyond that point that no one who was angry about that even remembers being in that position oh i know but like the whole like you gotta be shilling there's no way this fighting game on this console is actually fun and it's like my i have a i can't i have a recent one i was in the crosshairs for that one i have a recent one
Starting point is 03:50:56 which really cracked me up because uh when i was playing ace combat and i i got to jpeg dog yep uh that kind of went viral in fact i just saw an interview with the developers talking about it yeah and apparently it's not a jpeg dog it's actually video the dog was just stoned still when they told it to sit because it was just so well behaved which is wild and i don't believe it because it's two different dogs in those shots so an interviewer asked them about oh yeah what's up with the end they're like is it a jpeg like no and he got it describes the the developer as getting frustrated going no of course it's not jpeg that's ridiculous this is like that's reach right that's stupid oh this is like the morrigan sprite story oh yeah it totally is and that guy's
Starting point is 03:51:46 probably fucking pissed that the work he put in is being known as jpeg dog dog and that's my fault um but when that clip started to make the rounds i would go and look and like oh what oh wow it showed up here a while it showed up here and there's a fairly consistent reaction of number one who the fuck is this i hate them that's fair right to look at this motherfucker playing it up nobody laughs like that it's just a stupid dog this is so ridiculous and fake and dumb and i'm oh because well because i'm i'm laughing really hard and i do my little girl laugh when i'm doing it like but nobody knows our sense of humor right right and like oh my god how are you guys falling for this it's their typical streamer playing it up what a bunch of crap oh and i'm like do you
Starting point is 03:52:35 never laugh really hard at anything in your life motherfucker and not once no they're just used to the twitch game which is full of that yeah i guess but it's like just the the knowledge the the it is like you ever see something so ignorant it makes you laugh like yes when somebody is telling me the person who was laughing that i was faking it right right that's pretty funny yeah that's pretty funny yeah yeah and also get fucked that stupid video clip got to the developers and now they're mad at me uh i'm sure there's other great examples but those that's that's more than fine that's more than fine uh well i'm sure there's people that would like look at your like laugh it like if if we'd been playing
Starting point is 03:53:31 parasite eve live with a camera yes they would have seen you rolling around on the fucking ground laughing like hyena yeah i look at this motherfucker i was on the ottoman yeah you were you were like struggling it off the floor i was i was like yeah like yeah yeah yeah you're like oh lose fit like come on man mm-hmm um bah bah yeah bah dear castle super beast this isn't a question but just generally a weird fucked up strange thing that i think you might enjoy knowing oh wait hold on someone listening to this is probably thinking to themselves wait what the fuck is the morrigan sprite story
Starting point is 03:54:13 damn it do i have to go post on the subreddit to ask what this is because i'm new and i missed it we haven't hold it in like two years so that's good enough to reboot it for the kids all right hey kids back in the day i was on a forum on this forum we're all kinds of fun fighting game people shoutouts to higher voltage you guys are great i miss you even though you're kind of still around in a weird way uh me and matt would post on this forum sometimes you have some great times with it no it was it was always a fucking blast just fighting games and perverts uh that's high voltage yeah well herve for short and we're and we were herverts oh okay so anyway um lots of fun things happened back there including the kerry huskens appreciation thread which uh the actress that
Starting point is 03:54:54 played uh uh sonia blade then showed up in the thread and was like what up and we're like oh uh and uh so there was all kinds of fun people that would hang out including um the capo arista who uh learned from the guy that played eddy gordo and who went on to be a mocap dude for capcom and so he was doing mocap for capcom and in particular he got hired to go over to japan and do mocap for devil may cry three and so when he was working on dante's awakening he got to meet some of this japanese staff and he's a big fighting game fan and he asked about uh he asked about at the time cvs was coming out right and he and he's like how come uh he's like he's a big fan of fighting games he got to meet one of the guys he might met an artist and he found out he's the artist that
Starting point is 03:55:54 like did sprites for capcom versus s and k yeah and he was like yeah uh he loved this game it's beautiful your work is amazing i've been such a fan for so long thank you so much and everything i'm really curious uh about how come morrigan still appears as she did in vampire in the first game ancient sprite as opposed to everyone else in that game because every time morrigan has showed up in any game despite the fact that everything else looks newer and shiny she's still in that old form sprite from like 97 it's actually a fun joke amongst me and my friends online the morrigan sprite haha and the guy kind of looked at him and had a pained smile expression on his face and went i see yes hmm yes very difficult very difficult and walked away and he was like
Starting point is 03:56:51 oh shit did i just insult this guy i hope i didn't but clearly he was not happy about the fact that his work and the morrigan sprite are still being used all these years later on the project so uh i mean there was a fucking street fighter four mod where someone made a giant poly polygonal version of it it was like a couple inches thick and just dropped it into the game as one of the greatest running gags ever and that was fucking fantastic but needless to say they know they knew you know yeah anyway you know reminds me of you know how in those old disney movies uh how there's some elements that are traced like uh blue and mogley dancing and like robin hood and and miriam dancing and they're
Starting point is 03:57:40 clearly traced on from earlier movies because corporate you know told hey just fucking trace over it's cheaper right yeah watch the documentary about that and there's a couple of those animators still alive it's like it's more expensive to trace it over it's way way more expensive because it's so hard to get the trace right yeah but every fucking day we tell the assholes and the suitors this is so fucking expensive let's just make a new like no just trace it it's cheaper and like rotoscope your own animation yeah that was like the whole conversation over and over and over as opposed to like live action footage yeah that's in that's yeah just fucking trace it it's cheaper no it's i'm telling you i can do faster we just do whatever like over and over and over and over
Starting point is 03:58:25 that's amazing um Derek says castle super beast this isn't a question but i just generally think a weird fucked up thing that's strange and i think you might enjoy knowing it yeah man uh when i was in middle school my older brother had his first kid he named his son daunte after dmc's daunte all right i know this because it's what he told me yeah but he used the cover story of it being a bible thing to convince his wife that the name was a good idea it's not a bible thing it is completely not a bible thing it's not a bible thing so he could have done to allegary is not biblical but she bought it sure uh she he knew she wouldn't let the name fly if it was specifically from a video game this is playing with fire this is playing with fucking fire man
Starting point is 03:59:15 chapter two oh man fast forward again to present day i had just finished oh wait hold on sorry uh chapter two uh fast forward four years later oh fucking and my brother has another son this time obviously he wants to name the kid virgil oh my god after some intense back and forth oh my god along with my younger brother ratting out that our older brother was naming kids after video game characters you fucking bitch why would you do that virgil was shot down and the kid was named gabriel an actual bible thing instead yeah fast forward to present day i just finished dmc five the night before yeah and i asked him how he was progressing with it only for him to tell me that he not bought the game and he thought it looked too slow boring and that every combat encounter looked
Starting point is 04:00:11 like a chore he then started to sing praises of the current game he was playing anthem not judging my older brother for this tastes can change but to me it's so absurdly weird to see someone who's fandom for a thing was so intense that they named their own children after the characters not even try the newest one especially since he's the one who introduced me to dmc when i was seven the fact that he gave it up for anthem is just icing on the cake again don't really have a question just a thought i would share this bizarre happenstance with you all keep doing what you do there's a simpsons moment for this but homers talks about how to how to's or how our way to remember something that you love forever he rolls up his sleeve and sees starland vocal band what
Starting point is 04:00:57 but they suck right if i was a kid that was named after a game character only to grow up into my dad saying that that game sucks and he doesn't care anymore that i don't know what that cause that's an issue right that's like a fucking thing right i don't know what that is but that's complex i really hope zelda williams likes nintendo she does she loves it great she's been in zelda commercials great her and her and her and her dad uh about five ten years ago great we're in uh in a fucking 3ds commercial good to know talking about zelda because if she fucking hated them that'd be rough she's also she also looks like a like a good looking zelda too there you go like proper um why would you do this this is the worst idea why would you do
Starting point is 04:01:48 do this okay you know what how did you think this was a good idea we're not even focusing what is wrong with we're not even focusing on the word what is actually wrong with you like if you're dating you're fucking this is people's lives that you're you're dating someone married actually because if it's a bible thing they're shortly married before you know not gonna have kids out of wedlock right so you're married to this woman you love her very much but she's for real about her kids names guess what your children's names that feels like an important detail of your life right and she wants her kids name to not be fucking stupid preferably something out of the bible because it means something to her to hoodwink your wife on that you are asking for a
Starting point is 04:02:29 fucking divorce that is a fucked up thing to do that like that like honey galatians four seven says that daniel begat rad spencer and quite frankly that's good enough for me i don't know about you but i just want to keep it christian and i want to do what jesus would have done and name our child rad that's correct that's correct Nathan spencer no no well yeah no you know what sure his middle name will be rad for redeath on no wait rad is in like radical no rad as in research and development spencer no i bet you didn't know about that shit i didn't know that rad spencer is research and development spencer that doesn't make any sense 2009 let's go that doesn't make any sense well hey that's stupid let's go buy out of commander let's
Starting point is 04:03:29 get it that's dumb fucking rad spencer was an acronym the whole time you piece of shit that's so fucking stupid no playing with fire like could you i can't even imagine i can't even fucking imagine right i can't even imagine and then you come around again and you go but virginal though and she's like wait a minute i don't remember any virginals in the bible which granted bitch you should have seen that come in the first time is there sure as fuck ain't no the name daunte is like over a thousand years older than the bible like how do you play daunte's awakening final mission in that household with her walking around and not going with the remote nearby that's what you do like what do you do you're playing it all the time and you beat the
Starting point is 04:04:23 final mission you daunte daunte did you say something not what you call and the kid walks in the room when you what is it dad daunte uh put your toys away they're not out yeah okay i want daunte to learn martial arts and sword fighting and none wait okay hold on just she walks home and he's got the baby and he's just like spitting it in circles just going lunar face like no you know what he's doing okay you know how you know how dad's or mom's dad's will grab their baby's arm and you know and just play with their arms like that's like sword trick sword trick oh god oh god that whole situation is a disaster waiting to happen that's insane that whole situation is
Starting point is 04:05:17 fucking insane okay woolly you know the little sir you know the the circular little round toy thing that you could play with just have a bunch of little sub and swords hanging from it in a circle around them and spin them okay woolly say i'm named after patec go out of the hockey player right sure okay imagine my dad was a hockey player as well right and that's why i love patec go out and he named me after him right i'm not i'm named after woolly the guy who thought he should name someone else woolly that's fair enough all right that's simple okay so right and then my dad plays hockey and his leg gets broken off yep and he becomes handicapped and has a cane for his life and then i grow up going you're named after patec while the hockey player hockey ruined my life
Starting point is 04:05:56 that will fuck me up right right that i'm fucked up now um i don't even i don't even know where to fucking go with that i don't even like that everything about that story is fucked up and you know what you know what here's the thing if that story happened with the last devil may cry game that came out yeah that's not christian game that game is not good that's a very different story that has bad values that's a very different story don't he doesn't smoke and he doesn't have sex out of wedlock he's a good christian wait is he yeah he is and he's got a bigger dick yeah well very different version of the story however it is not even that it's the new fucking good one and anyway like let me even put this in a perspective for you i have an actual story that's real that
Starting point is 04:06:48 puts this perspective my mom also thought patch was a good name but she was worried because she doesn't like the name pat she likes name patty because irish and sounds nice she just doesn't care for the name pat and my dad told her honey don't worry no one will call him pat everyone call him patty there you go i grew up listening to occasional bickering about you know richard you're so full of shit you said he wouldn't mean any pat and now he says pat and she my mom always still calls me patty no matter what she never has never once called me pat which ended up with some very white kid teenager mom stop calling me pat it's embarrassing when it's pat right but like that like little bickering's here and there never a fight that's ridiculous right but you know
Starting point is 04:07:34 like oh i told you so why right imagine this and that's forever that's forever yeah yeah next time name your kid javelin asshole make him a nudist while you're at it because that's clearly the best way for him to live his life yeah they call me jab i don't know why it's something about porn wow man okay i need to correct people in the chat specifically it's not patty that's the girl's name patty patty paddy like patty's pub yeah patty's pub yeah something like that yeah um here's the thing there is a high likelihood that our voices are reaching someone who's who's already too far in who's named the kid after a video game character oh hey there little sephir off and or or young khalisi you know what the trick is and it's and it's not always a write-off
Starting point is 04:08:39 but you gotta be really careful you know what the trick is with that don't taste a real name that people have yes it is fine yes virtual is very uncommon it's a wrestler big fan of the wrestler but daunting virtual fuck off you're fooling no one that's right yeah right yeah you're fooled no one yeah nero is technically a name but i've never even heard of a person actually named nero right nero was in nero burning room yeah but you like you can't like hey listen it's gonna be real tough to get away with naming your kid optimus prime i'm just telling you right well it i mean right yeah but you could name them peter after peter cullen who is optimus prime in your heart right honey i don't see what the problem is i think saura is a great name
Starting point is 04:09:34 that's probably one of the hardest cells especially if you're fan of japanese games because those characters have names that don't exist that aren't real names what do you mean we can't call her riku riku oh riku might actually oh what is that is that island name yeah totally yeah it's a it's an island very far away like i had a friend like about a week and a half ago or so like i was talking to a friend who'd like they're just like oh yeah like her friend was like uh there's a new baby on the way and stuff and like oh cool they picked a name out and like yeah what was the name hitomi i was like oh cool are they're japanese okay yeah great yeah good fine great okay just check it there's somebody in the in the super beast chat right now going hard on i'm gonna
Starting point is 04:10:19 name my kid jet hoodie yeah and i'm like i'm freaked out because that could be real yeah yeah yeah yeah i'm just saying it's like it's not always it's not always a miss sometimes you can hit yeah but you gotta be really careful about it it's subtle it's like here's the thing honestly honestly give your child an out yeah you know give them a benefit of the doubt where they could option select the way they want to play that as an adult you know you know you everyone listening to this you and i have met people whose parents were dipshits and thought more about how cool their kid's name was rather than the fact that their kid would actually have to live with their own name of course this is actually the most important part name your kid something if it's some lame or whatever give them give them a
Starting point is 04:11:06 name that can be nicknameized into a human name right just in case they don't like all the annoying attention i gotta i gotta i got a distant relative uh uh named bethany and uh her mom flips her shit when people call her beth i'm like listen that's stupid everyone on the planet earth is gonna call your kid beth yeah that's fucking dumb it is hard enough to like you don't fucking you don't have to go through life with extra ammunition being targeted your way you know what i mean like you can like you can spare a lot of bullshit that someone would have to go through i am a tiny lot of tiny smart ass ginger i didn't need to be named like ezekiel or some shit yeah like i didn't need that yeah so no pat didn't help i have things to consider
Starting point is 04:12:03 fuck saint patty's day um drink responsibly oh and and certainly woolly went over well the whole time oh like a sheep yeah yeah no no well how about darlington did that go over okay that's a that's a that's zany that's proper zany yeah how about you fucking spare your kids some fucking stress that they don't need what would you have picked for your own name had you not had woolly or darlington have you ever actually thought about it yeah yeah and it's likely a name i'm gonna use ah i see yeah the sequel yeah i can't believe the third could you imagine oh dude kick me in the balls wow that always struck me as like like ridiculously self important is people naming their kids after themselves yeah you'd have to be some kind of asshole to do that
Starting point is 04:13:02 yeah you would guess what you know who is not an asshole but on this subject is the dumbest motherfucker that ever lived rest in peace buddy george foreman ah he's dead yeah he's he's dead i didn't i'm pretty sure i don't think george foreman is regardless he has a ton of kids he has a ton of kids what do you think their names are george george george george and george all of them yeah even the girls yeah there's george in there but yeah apparently they can tell based on his intonation intonation that's correct yeah there you go he's you know what he's a boxer and he took some hits he's he's george what are you gonna name your kid george um yeah that's himself important weird shit that's a weird one that's a weird one um
Starting point is 04:13:56 um yeah george anyway give him an out give him an out yeah uh dare star pat neman zawuldo uh a couple years ago i tried to get my younger brother into jjba with a mixed amount of success seems like an anime that we ride up his alley with 40 chest style fights and masterful use of style and flair plus i figured he'd be the kind of guy who wouldn't get hung up on the unapologetic flamboyancy for the most part i was right in guessing that we got through parts one and two with him being super entertained and invested when part three came around his interest dropped quickly in a pretty major way he disliked stands from the departure as a departure from the ripple and despite his love for things like hunter x hunter and mha uh that make clever use of individuality
Starting point is 04:14:35 of mechanics um to bring out the best in fighting characters i couldn't seem to get him to care much past for the first few episodes i don't think he got to cackuin which is really frustrating for obvious reasons there are also aspects of character design specifically those of platinum magician's red and dio with all the hearts and banana yellow outfit that clearly drained any interest he'd have in part three did seem to care a bit more when i ran past him the idea that stands could literally be anything like a toy plane or a fortune telling book or a ball of plasma in the sky or a gun yeah and that logic of fights becomes incredible when you're willing to just accept a lot of arikes bullshit but unfortunately as a side effect of jojo being jojo it was very hard to
Starting point is 04:15:11 explain concisely yes even now though it helped a bit and clearly that was years ago i'm starting to get him to turn around and give part three another go but i still can't think of specific examples of standalone fights that would make a good encapsulation of the jj experience uh so i think showing him a couple of home run out of the park encounters could be what locks him in unfortunately all examples that come to mind for me are big endgame fights that left disgustingly long lasting impressions and ideally you'd want to show them big fights that aren't spoiler heavy even if the spoilers don't matter without context if you have any suggestions on what isolated events would make for some better jojo moments i'd appreciate it if nothing else uses an email to
Starting point is 04:15:46 gush about jojo to your heart's content part four it's the fight against the dude in the radio tower and against enigma with the paper those are fucking weird they're fucking weird okay well like there's there's yeah so there's two good answers and uh i would say that uh yeah that's there you go um absolutely the the the radio tower is super weird and goofy chat has an answer and i think they're right as well uh uh my answer oh yeah there is my answer was gonna be duel and geb yeah because in duel and geb in the desert is the most interesting sniper battle in the world yeah it's the most interesting sniper fight that's ever been done yeah it's the coolest it's it's right as in an isolated right yeah uh chat says darby and they're right and darby is
Starting point is 04:16:34 fucking great as they're also right if they were instead of saying darby they could have been saying darby which would they would also be right because boy does that have nothing to do with shit darby uh but here's the there's the thing uh there are these answers of isolated great fights that you can show i think you're trying too hard yeah your friend just might not like jojo and that's okay yes and if and if he bounces off of that you should probably be accepting that or at the very least be like hey that's cool right maybe it's just not for him yeah that's possible and quite if you if you start part three and you see the stands and what they do and your first reaction is an oh shit yeah then it maybe it's gonna go in that direction forever
Starting point is 04:17:19 yeah so i know they could get interesting and and be more than just punch ghosts but quite frankly uh it sounds from this email like you're trying too hard and if you're trying too hard you are really pushing them away yeah because the worst thing you could do at that point is make it annoying so that instead of possibly wanting to give it a shot he's really just trying to be like fine i'll do it but and now it's just that thing that you won't shut up about it's like a sad anime hand job yeah it's just fine like it's okay it's okay if he doesn't like it it's okay if you liked one of two one two are right yeah two especially um but yeah there are some isolated fights you know but i at this point like if someone bounced off something like that often and i like i get
Starting point is 04:18:06 being a huge fan of it and all that but like this is the point where you're starting to become that guy you know don't be that guy don't be that guy don't be that guy so all right um what's coming up what's coming out um what oh hey secro's this week securo is this week i'm going to be moving my stream schedule over a little bit to account for that so that's at twitch.tv slash angriest pat i'll be streaming thursday yakuza kwami is what i'll be doing i actually might change that to apex now that the thing is out but and then friday saturday sunday four sure will be all secular all the time i'll be starting eight p.m on the weeknights and four p.m on the weekend uh and uh page might also stream uh more spooky or something like that we were playing spooky last night uh tonight tomorrow
Starting point is 04:18:58 the day after i'm not sure it depends on uh if she feels it uh over at twitch.tv slash peach saliva uh in the meantime over at woolly versus there during this podcast a new part of devil may cry five went up so um if you want to go catch part 21 that's available now and how the remainder of those parts gonna come uh every day at three p.m okay so uh devil may cry five will be coming up first thing during the day at three p.m uh as the parts are gonna go i hope you all enjoyed your big load but now we're in the extra the after bursts yeah yeah i said it like that refractory period yeah it's still sensitive we gotta dip the the the we gotta dip it into the glass of milk that is my availability well no yeah i don't go to that board yeah yeah what i'm telling an old
Starting point is 04:20:02 blonde joke what are you talking about the vineyard oh you do go to that board you've told me about it uh the vineyard uh anyway gotta get your pronunciations correct fucking well you can't be a big fan you got the pronunciation wrong i mean it's uh you're safe now devil may cry five is gonna be doing that and then when the parts are out then they're out and then we'll record more yep that's how it works that's how it works um we're all busy bees over here so occasionally it's a little difficult to segue those those sessions up yeah yeah yeah and uh you know if you're if you're if you're asking me when more is then the answer is cancelled forever i'm unplaying the game as we speak do you know what i did the other night i had uh i was
Starting point is 04:20:51 running my stream and i had uh you know done the thing where i start i especially on tuesdays i start read donations and stuff like that for 20 25 minutes get you know get all up to date and then i was and i switched over to the game and i saw it look down the chat so play the fucking game i'm like oh what so i switched the camera back over and just fucking faffed about for 20 minutes right i you don't tell me what to do yeah no i i like i mentioned it a bit earlier but like it is really there's a real funny one where it's like you know like tweet comes in or something it's like for when's more fun with that and like you kind of click and it's like doesn't follow me doesn't follow you doesn't follow anybody that has does anything with where did you
Starting point is 04:21:30 come from you're not who are you you're not okay you're you're not someone that actually cares about the content that i make so like you're just you can go fuck yourself you're just being that okay cool you're just being that person cool right on gonna do it for you buddy anyway um so i can't speak for woolly here obviously because i would not dane to do so but did you know that if you have a little uh sub icon next to your name in chat you actually have more power you should you should subscribe um you know there's a counter on my chat that tells me how many users are motivated oh yeah yeah yeah motivation's important yeah so uh with that being said i need to race to get to april first please so i i'll be i will make myself uh available
Starting point is 04:22:15 don't you worry we'll be doing that and how much time you got on on the fucking Wednesday uh boxing is at 6 30 if i show up early enough we can just do it we'll see there's a time limit energy however yeah i know so we'll see but the cool thing yeah that's true all right well anyway um meanwhile uh what else is going on well uh i want to say so yeah joe that's happening every day and then i'm also going to continue to put out parts of other stuff that's not devil may cry five on my channel uh at six and nine p.m so uh wonderful 101 continues with reggie good times surprising how many people didn't touch wonderful 101 i'm gonna say that that's not at all surprising at all okay rather surprising how many of our audience our audience are still human beings
Starting point is 04:23:14 yes however considering the ridiculous overlap of platinum shilling the dude i really thought that uh we was such a bomb man it was it was but i but i thought a lot i thought people went out of their way to grab that platinum hotness because it was so it was so good only crazies like us dude and beta 2 and shit the bail box i called it the bail box dude remember like wonderful 101 sold like sub 50k or some shit it was it was insane it was insane yeah it was it's the biggest bomb more than ever did more views on on the then sales then sales yeah yeah it is true it's wild yeah um but i guess i just remembering how like insanely hype we got over it like i kind of i was like everyone kind of caught on board do that i want people asked for it too i did the
Starting point is 04:23:59 top 10 thing and then i saw i sung the song in it yeah so anyway that game's amazing so i'm thinking that uh we're gonna we're showing that to a whole lot of new eyes right now and i'm really happy about that you should probably do pay 0 to that as well uh so then um yeah reggie's being introduced to it so that's a fun time um but he still do it he was a smash player um reggie reggie yeah yeah he's a smash player and even he didn't he didn't because he had a Wii U for sure yeah but uh didn't really go in on that oh yeah because why would you it's just this stupid lame game with the super fucking god damn it but but speaking of reggie being a smash player tomorrow's getting to fighting games and what better uh of the moment topic and of the moment game to get into
Starting point is 04:24:55 then super smash brother's melee reggie is bringing in some melee friends some names that you may recognize from the melee community and we're gonna get into it we're gonna fucking play we're gonna break it down we're gonna talk about current events we're gonna learn competitive smash tomorrow and um everyone will have anyway it'll be a good time it'll be a good time i here's one thing here's one thing right you don't have to swear off your association i yeah yeah exactly uh i not only did i so i i actually i passed by a game a game store and i picked up a new uh a new fucking gamecube controller as well uh so i'm excited i'm ready to go i had i'm so like i in the discussion i asked reggie a couple of things because like here's one this whole thing
Starting point is 04:25:57 was going down all the amount of stuff and everything and i was like yeah okay there's got to be like like i need the inside perspective i want to know you know and i asked him about like the malfunctioning controller thing yeah of course and he gave me an answer that actually made sense and i and it's one of those ones like oh you i want you to bring this up i want to get into it i want to get like the actual perspective of what that is and how that works and why that resulted in what it did it's so interesting did you uh did you see solidist tweet about a week or two ago where the clip of me ranting and raving about that is over two years old and there are still angry comments being posted on it every day no every day
Starting point is 04:26:41 like a youtube clip yeah okay on solid as a channel he has the the clip cut out and that's every single day there's more shitty there's more angry comments about it um so i'm that's hilarious but i know it's really gonna be fun and uh and these are some cool guys that that hang around so that'll be tomorrow on uh the twitch channel um jojo's continuing though i'm going to be making a change to the format of that because uh it's a jrpg and as people have rightfully pointed out uh jrpg's should um have special attention and you know there's no reason to make the same mistakes from the old channel right if something is not working with people if there's problems if there's a better way to lp then why not take that chance and fix it on my new channel we don't have
Starting point is 04:27:27 to just stick to what we used to do so i'm going to be redoing the uh i'm going to be i'm planning that out i'm going to be doing something different with that uh with jojo probably just longer parts a little less frequently um so that more progress exists in a given watch because that game gets the most grindy and it's it gets unwatchably bad at sometimes like the walk between two buildings takes 10 minutes because of the 20 fights that take we were talking about we actually had lunch right before this and i was talking to him like well he's explaining the story about jojo and i'm like is that why i went into your stream and i saw you playing dragon quest yeah you were in a you were in a black in one of the video and you spoke to a horn blacksmith man what the
Starting point is 04:28:11 fuck was that so it was just uh it was very very very that wasn't a stream now there was a video but i skimmed around was like wait what this was a jojo game yeah so so you know um it's really like uh uh yeah for jrpgs you gotta you got a special attention and the thing is like and there's always like beloved like a lot of games that are like really really long that are really really beloved are like games that people want to see but you don't necessarily remember the monotonous parts in the middle of it you know so i gotta figure that out for any long games i want to tackle in the future and this is going to be addressed and then of course uh re2 whenever the chance comes around yeah not going to be this saturday though no we're busy yeah because
Starting point is 04:28:51 fucking Sekiro is coming out and i'm gonna be playing Sekiro too what so uh i'm gonna be streaming that as well and i'm gonna just you know just see what the fuck the from soft is up to let's play some tenchu souls yeah i'll start at four and you can watch that and then if after a couple hours that you're like that sucks just go over to willy's stream yeah yeah nice good job what set that bar it happens hey man i got that kappa demon i got him in one really yeah fucking oh yeah you did yeah i was pissed got him in one yeah same thing for the real the real trick is like get farther than me by the end of the night right right right that's that's the fucking depends on the time the time for yeah yeah i got a couple one shots in there that i'm proud of um i was really
Starting point is 04:29:40 pissed off during bloodborne when i didn't get to fight amygdala amygdala yeah yeah super pissed like what the fuck dude we're doing the pass-off thing i'm supposed to get to fight the bosses at least once um yeah so so that's going down as well you know and um everything else continues including uh willy and austin look at playstation demo discs such a fun time such a good game such we got to fucking uh that's a jet moto got to jet moto on that game yeah great game yeah good times so anyway uh that's woolly versus on twitter and woolly versus on twitch oh yeah i'm angry spell on twitter too that's a twitter you can you can watch me argue with people about really stupid shit never anything important always stupid yeah omega boost got omega boost in
Starting point is 04:30:31 there omega boost is like every it doesn't look it it looks like a ps2 game every every grantorismo game that comes out and gets announced like a fuck yeah oh fucking omega boost by polyphonic digital like that was so beyond playstation one at the end and i had a crazy innovative movement system where you were on the inside of a sphere so good incredible incredible game uh yeah so you know the fun part is uh it's a visual but the light changes over the course of the podcast yeah because it literally goes from slightly afternoon to slightly evening yeah and that's always fun and you can see how things get darker and you get paler and i get um more like a darkest dungeon character like my eyes don't exist anymore i mean that's cool
Starting point is 04:31:16 that's that's a thing you can go for anyway everything makes me paler dude it's it's not a i mean oh crap light i've been holding it in for a while yeah so i gotta go to the bathroom all right we we're gonna see you next week and you can also check out our stuff and see us like immediately after this so or just go watch more devil may cry so yeah go do that over to the devil may cry okay bye everybody i'm fluorescent so so
Starting point is 04:32:42 so so you

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