Castle Super Beast - CSB 037: You'll Never Believe What The Guys Say This Week!

Episode Date: October 3, 2019

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Here's what's next! I'd like to give a hearty thank you and hello to everyone who pushed us on International Podcast Day. Yeah, we're the best. Yeah. A lot of nice people out there like listening so they told other people to listen. And then people were like, I'm gonna check out this podcast. Oh, no. Yeah, it's kind of interesting seeing how the difference between people who have been listening for a long time and like kind of, you know, more or less talking about like the changes and how things are different. Whereas other people are walking in for the first time
Starting point is 00:01:18 going, what the fuck is this room? Am I gonna get on a list by listening to this podcast? I dare God, I touch the doorknob. That's right. You'll get on the list of cool kids. Tell your friends. Why did I touch the doorknob? Oh, I've caught it now. It's too late. You're inside. You've breathed it in by clicking play, I suppose. I don't like this brand of meme. Well, I mean, the point remains is we're grateful that you two have now. Oh, God. I was gonna say like you caught the virus or whatever the you know, but like that's almost like breathe deep. Well, because it's almost like old radio back in the day would be like catch the virus, you
Starting point is 00:02:02 know, I remember. Yeah, so I'm not even good thing. Those guys are all dead and we're the future and we'll never die. I almost died this weekend. I almost died this week. I almost died this week because I was in Florida. Uh huh. Is that just the end of the sentence? Do you need elaboration? Yeah. All right. You almost died this weekend. I was in Florida and I definitely saw him. Oh, you saw him. I was expecting to see him at some point. You seem like right away. It wasn't right away. I had enough. I had two days of wondering where he would be. Yeah. And I thought that the fact that I would be more or less
Starting point is 00:02:46 contained to a small hotel strip area like they don't let they don't let him in. It's a pretty the chances are low if you stand still. Yeah. If you stand still, they can't see you. They can't see you. So you expect, OK, Florida man's just going to walk on. But no, no, there he was. He was there. It's three in the morning. Mm hmm. I was heading out to Walgreens. That's where. Yeah. Yeah. You know, you're saying the Florida man trigger words. I am. I am said not to Walgreens. It was three in the morning, 342, actually. Yeah. I was coming back from the venue, played some nice, long, good old, good ass games of Sam's show.
Starting point is 00:03:21 That's correct. And I wanted to get me some stuff for the next morning. Mm hmm. So on the way over, I there he was. He's standing in the parking lot. Mm hmm. There was no one else around having a good. It was he having a good time? He was having a time. OK, he was having a time. He was very emotional, but I couldn't tell what he was feeling. Mm hmm. And he was definitely talking loudly to someone not on his headset to his friend. There was no headset, you know. So there he was. He was talking to Florida talking, talking to Florida. Yes. Right. He is the man, the spirit of Florida, the man of Florida was channeling. Yes. And,
Starting point is 00:04:10 you know, I walked into the Walgreens. I bought my stuff. I had a nice conversation with the cashier and walked out and he locked eyes upon walking out. I made a hard 90 degree turn. Do you see your soul in that moment? He saw something. Yeah. But either way, I'm like, I'm just gonna. I'm just gonna I'm just I'm just I'm just sticking to the sidewalk. Right. Yeah, this is a good side. You know, the aggro zone feels was the actual lot itself. So as long as you're on the sidewalk part attached to the lot of enemies will aggro you from sight, but that's only the initial acquisition. They won't actually aggro you
Starting point is 00:04:48 unless you get within like a like a perimeter. Yeah. No, Florida. Florida man is more like a Lionel. OK. He'll see you and he'll stop. Yeah. And take notice. Yes. But the next actions are on you. Yeah. You have to get within that that barrier, what you visible zone, what you choose to do from here. Now that I've acknowledged you now that the speaking has stopped. Yes. And I've locked on to you. What you choose to do from here determines the rest of the encounter. I'll be real. I've you know, I've encountered Florida man variants regional Florida man variants around here. And there's always to me that expansion
Starting point is 00:05:25 team. That part is always the worst part because it's I don't want to walk towards the Florida man regional. I want to walk away. However, walking away means that I can't see them anymore. There's that which sucks shit. If it's late at night, notice that I didn't say I did a 180. You said 90. Exactly. You know, what's that 90 degrees? Your peripheral vision. That's right. For a bit anyway. Well, and then you hit the corner and you're good. And then you just run. Well, no. But that so that was there, you know. And yeah, like I said, it's like if you have somebody that's walking and chanting and talking and
Starting point is 00:06:17 doing their thing, having a good time, right? They're locked in, right? But when that stops because they notice you, yeah, that's the problem. Yeah, that's the bad. I'm I'm very glad to let you continue whatever important task you were doing, sir. Yeah. Yeah. So so there he was, you know, that was that. There's something else I noticed about America and it's something that I've noticed a while ago, but it wasn't until this time that I actually mentally took note that I'm like, I'm going to bring this up. All right. On the podcast, because I don't know if it's America. You guys ready? Yeah. This is one of those things where I'm
Starting point is 00:06:57 like, maybe maybe I'm just naive. Maybe I'm just super Canadian. Who knows? But I wanted to throw it out there and see if anybody knows what this is about. All right, America. What's the deal with? Every single time I've been in a state that is more southern area, say below Mason Dixie, I guess. I mean, not below New York State. Anyway, sure. Like, yeah, I feel like if I've ever been out late at that point, yeah, there is 100% of the time. A car in a parking lot that is otherwise empty and the car is on and no one knows what's going on. That is really bizarre. Very. But it's also very not if you go, well, let's assume what that
Starting point is 00:07:47 could be. If it's just someone sleeping in their car, then why would the keys be indignation? Why would it be on? You'd be wasting your batteries. That doesn't make any sense. It's like, OK, well, then is it a kid just like smoking up because it's not legal here and you don't want to get caught by their parents? Possibly. That makes that could be possible, right? That makes a lot of sense. It could be someone just looking for a hookup and finding, you know, a street worker to do that with. But then you'd expect some car rocking of some kind, you know, so I'm seeing I'm seeing two answers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Repeated. It's very, it's very, it's very much likely that it's just like, no, that's where you get your drugs going. Right. Or the drugs were there and then they went around a side corner and perhaps needed a car ready to go. Perhaps, you know, I also saw cop entrapment scheme. I mean, certainly the cops walk up to those windows and go, hey, what's going on here? I mean, it's not a scheme that because that's pretty much what you always see or see about. Good scheme. Yeah. Like that that is a bait for a cop to walk up and knock on the window and go, what are you doing? Yeah. Right. But otherwise it's like lights on lights
Starting point is 00:08:51 on car in the ignition, he and the ignition sitting idling in the parking lot alone. Super three, four in the morning, you know, not something that I see here very often. I don't believe I've ever seen that here ever. I've seen it, but it's not enough to be notable. Or is here it's been every single time, you know, and I'm just kind of like, I don't know what to make of that. And I guess I never will know. Yeah. So we got two answers. One is just drugs, repeated ad nauseam. And the other is bait car. Bait car. Yeah. Right. If you open that door and try to drive it away.
Starting point is 00:09:34 And what are you doing with that car? That's not your car. Bait car. That sounds absurd. What? You don't know about bait car? That was a TV show for a time. But the idea of you never heard about bait drugs, but it's like cops that got the they got the heroines on like a fishing line. Not that they roll it down the down the down the sidewalk. I mean, it's not that it has to make sense, but it's like, even if it is just like, OK, yo, that's where you fucking shoot up, snort up, do what you got to do. Yeah. It's like, but you're the only car with the lights on sitting in a parking lot right now. I'm going to just
Starting point is 00:10:07 so I'm so not inconspicuous. I'm just going to say that the hardcore users and or sellers of hardcore drugs may not be possessing of all of their logical faculties at all times. Certainly. Sometimes home is really far. And sometimes you just got to pull over and get it get it done. You know, I I'm trying to imagine that's probably what's up. Sometimes you just need to have a kilo of nose candy. But but is it is that is that just one hundred percent? And that's it. That appears to be the case. Well, it happens every time. Well, and people are having a good time in the areas that you happen to be
Starting point is 00:10:49 frequenting. They should probably turn the keys off. It would it just it would, you know, you're idling gas, right? It just doesn't make any sense. Well, like, got to get got to be ready to drive away from the from the police in an empty parking lot. Got to be ready. Yeah, so anyway, that's that's what's up. That's yet again. Hey, America, what's up with you guys? You're weird. Why you do that? Why you got so weird? Just just turn the keys. I don't know. Anyway, so, yeah, that's a thing. And I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:28 I mean, I guess, like, perhaps, like I said, maybe just sheltered. Maybe just, oh, my God, I just saw a real answer. What? You need the light for the needle. But you can turn the light inside the car on without the light outside the headlights being on. Well, also, also, I this is no. No, this is not the inside of the car. I can't see into the car. Oh, well, that's even more confused. No, I could never see. Maybe they're walking out in front of the car
Starting point is 00:11:56 to do the needle in front of the head. Yeah, I don't know. I'm not like if I could see into the car while I'm walking by. You'd be like, oh, well, that's what's up, right? Someone's just in there doing whatever. Yeah. No, no, no, it's dark inside the car. But the headlights are on. Yeah. So the car's on. But there's no there's no interior light on possible haunting, you know.
Starting point is 00:12:15 So yeah, I don't know. You tell me. Um, also, Walgreens, what a silly name for a pharmacy. Slash, see, yes, or yeah, Dwayne Reed. You know, it reminds me every time I go down to the states and I walk into a Walgreens or CVS, I always feel like I'm in some kind of weird off brand country. It's weird. Like it was really, really, really bad. We were in Austin in Texas because I was walking around and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:12:47 this looks like a silly TV show. This looks like a fake ass TV show location where a law and order man's going to walk down the street and be like, ah, that got, you know, like it fit. Like because because things are shot in the United States, yeah, it looks like TV. And thus when I am in these locations, I go, this place is fake. I don't get that as much because I've been to too much America. But also I'm stupid.
Starting point is 00:13:15 I mean, what do you like? Yeah, I've seen too much America to think that. But occasionally you see a building or two where you're like, oh, that looks like the courthouse from the moment that from that thing happened. Yeah, that's when the old lady shoots the guy in shaft. That was sick. And then everyone's like, damn, old lady. Fair enough.
Starting point is 00:13:38 But anyway, so yeah, CEO Taku was this weekend. What up? That is the Community Effort Orlando tournament with an anime flavor sprinkled on to it. How much anime? Entirely. Okay. 100%. So by flavor, you mean like it was doused in the anime sauce.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Completely and utterly. So good time. That Jibaley runs a tournament. Okay. So it is a Jibaley tournament. Of course. Yeah. It's not the other CEO or is this all CEO is Jibaley.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Okay. His name on Twitter is CEO Jibaley. The main CEO that I think of is Chicago, right? No. Where is that? CEO stands for Community Effort Orlando. Well, it was put together when another tournament back in the 09 days was professing to be a huge big thing that was inviting a whole bunch of people down.
Starting point is 00:14:34 And then the person who booked it kind of disappeared with all the money. At the last second, Jibaley stepped up and said, hey, there's a lot of people that already booked flights that are coming down here. Let's make something happen. Let's just make it happen. Oh, that's good. That's a good story. I like the name Community Effort Orlando.
Starting point is 00:14:48 I like it. Yeah. It's good shit. So CEO has now kind of evolved to be a giant event that also has a wrestling promotion attached to it with the AEW stuff happening. And they've gone to a bigger venue, but the old venue they used to use is now the venue for CEO Tackle. It has been converted into a giant multi-blood bathroom.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Yes. Did you see that tweet? I did not. What are you talking about? You didn't see the tweet. Well, allow me to enlighten you with some fun. I tell you not to look at Twitter during stream on the camera people could see. I mean, like, I'll find you a tweet and then I'll show it to you.
Starting point is 00:15:37 And then you can read out what you see for the people. So that everyone, MP3 and video users alike can appreciate it. So tell me what the tweet is. Here you go. All right. So this was tweeted out during the event. I'd like to formally apologize to the multi-blood community. Due to CEO Tackle's rapid growth, we had to move the multi-blood tournament to the bathroom
Starting point is 00:16:04 so you can have a more comfortable area to compete in. Good luck this weekend. As a photo of a bathroom with a stream station and tournament station stickers on fucking bathroom stalls. That's amazing and a single laptop on the floor. That's amazing. Fighting game culture is so fucking stupid. I love it.
Starting point is 00:16:32 That's a that's a lull. That's a fun. That's a fun one. I love it. And you know, I mean, like the fact that and it's also just great where it's just like a lot of the multi-community is more or less just embraced the idea and they're just and they're just pushing it further and harder every time by taking photos and more. I want this position.
Starting point is 00:16:54 It's great. Like all stupid jokes. I want it to go too far. I want to go and turn on my sports center. And Meltyblood is on the sports center, you know, the group blew up, whatever. And I want them to wheel out a giant like 10 times larger than normal toilet to the stage. And a competitor jumps out of the toilet with a plunger. That's really expensive and goes.
Starting point is 00:17:25 And then the commentators are like, what if someone just drew it as a comic instead? That's good, too. And it wouldn't be impractical. And the point that I want is I want normal people, you know, the people who look at Street Fighter on ESPN and who like shit themselves in anger. I want them to like look on in like bereft confusion. Well, the ultimate there would be to have another event happening the same weekend in the same hotel and then as people are walking in and out of the bathroom,
Starting point is 00:17:58 they're catching some sick ass grand finals. Oh, wow. So, you know, anyway, that was CEO Taku, what they had. So CEO Taku down in Orlando, friend of mine, shout outs to Alex. He smartly went down with his parents the week before and just did the Orlando. Yeah. Hey, man, Orlando, because how often are you going to be out there? You know, so it's like, let's just do Disney and Universal Orlando, Florida.
Starting point is 00:18:26 So they got theme parks there. Also, I got to meet up and have a nice little dinner with Keats, who is also living out there. So, you know, good stuff, good times. Did Keats wax poetic on how to fix fighting games in the future? You bet. He can't help it. But neither can I. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:18:44 So we had a great conversation. Did you guys create the perfect fighting game in your mind? I mean, he already has his own. And I, you know, we went in on it. It was a really great conversation. And shout outs to Tupperware as well, who's doing Samsung commentary. He was there, too. And everybody, you know, we had a really great talk and allow me to take this moment
Starting point is 00:19:04 to correct a widely circulated by us super wrong fact. OK, what is this widely super wrong fact? Killer Instinct does not bar you from ranked based on your speed or connection. What does it do? It bars you based on your computer's performance. Yeah, that's right. Street Fighter 4 on the PC. The original version did that, too.
Starting point is 00:19:28 If you couldn't maintain 60 frames a second in the benchmark with a kuma throwing all sorts of bullshit around, it would go get the fuck out of here. Don't do that. It's a benchmark. It's not a speed check. Because if I imagine like the game just falls to pieces, if you're having two computers and they can't maintain parity. So that's so that's a huge error.
Starting point is 00:19:50 And but it but it should. Um, here's the other thing, too, is a big part of the discussion was about how net play is a solved issue and rollback does do its job. But when you see it not doing its job and things looking wonky, LS Street Fighter 5 on launch there to some degree still today, you're seeing bad implementation of rollback. It's not the it's not the rollbacks fault. In that sense.
Starting point is 00:20:18 But also like when you have bad implementation and you look at it, it's the worst thing ever like visually. Well, because what happens is like, yeah, like play one player is seeing the full match no problem like what's wrong. And the other person is completely seeing like the desync nonsense match. I think my favorite ever was like I played a match and like Ken had his fist past the top of the screen on a show you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:47 And then teleported back down to block something because it's trying to simulate based on the last frame what was going to happen. Yeah. Without that actual input being there. And then it's like, no, that's not at all what the player did. And then it's rolling back to nothing. And then weirdly enough that if you could then if you're seeing that minimize the game and then reopen it.
Starting point is 00:21:10 And then now they're going to be seeing that game is going to that was the actual nightmare when that was possible. That was the worst game of chicken. I'm not fucking taking it. You take it. I don't want it. You want you take it. Anyway, so yeah, that was that was something that came up.
Starting point is 00:21:29 But yes, actual CEO Taku. So I guess first things first right up front. It's a really interesting thing now that some tournaments are doing that I really I think I like especially if it's run smoothly is Fridays you run no brackets. You just have stations. No brackets. Fun setups, events, and maybe like a five v five, some kind of fun. So that's that's only going to work for tournaments of certain scale.
Starting point is 00:21:56 I assume. But this is a pretty big one. But they made it work, you know, and then you just do all brackets on Saturday and then Sunday finals. Right. And so Friday, everyone gets to just chill and enjoy the tournament and have a really relaxed time. That's a that's a really smooth way to do it.
Starting point is 00:22:10 I enjoyed it a lot. Most tournaments I know start on Friday and then move all the way through. But in this case, they made it work. And everyone had a really fun Friday, just playing casuals, going to the BYOC room. That's also excellent for people that want to compete, but are in the Orlando area and are like, dude, I got to work Friday. Yeah, like I just got I just got to go to work. Yeah, you actually don't have to show up until Saturday to play, you know.
Starting point is 00:22:36 So really cool there. And especially in this case, because Arxis was in town and they were showing off their games. So they had their setup. They were showing off a unique clear, which, you know, they had a couple playable characters. I think it was like a six character build or so. Tens of system changes and new characters and stuff coming.
Starting point is 00:22:56 New version of Under Night. Yeah. How much else to say? Was the game any clearer to you? No, it wasn't. Was it? Well, I mean, I was talking to my friend Jimmy Bones about just like it's like you walk in, you see the Vorpal system and the grid and then you just immediately fear back down.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Oh, my God. From it's like. But it is that game is so embraced fighting game nonsense jargon systems. But it is. It is a fun system and I do understand it. Now that it's been explained to me for the third or fourth time. Oh, my God. But yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:35 You explain it to me twice and I have no idea what you're talking about. When you isolate the bottom of the screen itself, it looks like some kind of alien sundial. Yeah. You're like, is this how time was told? Like, you know, you know, clear has become what people used to joke about. Blast boot. Blast boot. Blast boot.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Yes. Blast boot. Yeah, with the extra bars and systems. Yeah, I know. There like it is a there is a tug of war with little evil squares and then a clock spinning around the edge of that. And then occasionally some of it breaks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:10 You know, but anyway, so they had that set up right next to that. They had Grand Blue Fantasy Versus, which had the new character Percival in it, who was a big boy. Did money shoot out of the screen when you played it? Money did not shoot out of the screen, but people hungry for money were planting their asses in those chairs and not moving them. So I will say one thing about Grand Blue Fantasy Versus as somebody who hasn't played it and barely watched it. But I did look at that them.
Starting point is 00:24:40 They're Moba Jay, Mombage, Mobage. They have a shit zillion kids like that. That is a suit. That is a game that like, man, everyone is going to be miserable with the roster because there are like 300 fucking characters to choose from. And they're all way all of them are somebody's favorite. Yep. So you might not get yours for a while. Right. Or ever because they're not going to put out a 250 person fighting game.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Yeah. Well, that's so Grand Blue and Fate. That's the strength is it's Pokemon characters. Yeah. It's the Pokemon thing. Yeah. It's like when they did poke and you're like, oh, yeah, cool. So it's so got in. Oh, no Diolga. It's like, yeah, no. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:24 It's like, but there is that arcade machine you can go sit at and just play the phone game with prettier graphics and it'll print your cards out. So if people want like, they can actually just go get that Pokemon. I want my guy experience. And then you can print out every version of Archer. Yeah. And and so on and Saber and and Xerxes say, oh, and Berserker and Lancer. And and other Lancer and Saber.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Mm hmm. And then unlimited Thomas Edison. And then there's a cat man other unlimited blade works. Yeah. I want to point out that fate would probably be less incredibly confusing to everyone. If dozens of characters were not referred to primarily as their class, but they're hiding their hiding and but they're hiding what their classes are so that no one will know their true identity.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Whatever, man. If people know their true identities, then it's like, oh, no, I knew I now I know you're John, John, John of all I need to know is to put more cake into John Alter's mouth. So she gets fat. All I that's I that's what I see on Twitter the most. All I need to know is the more evil you get, the more darker you get. Just like real life. So that when you turn Mormons, you turn black, you turn evil.
Starting point is 00:26:59 That's the fate way. You know what I'm talking about. I'll be real. If I walked in here and I was black as you, you would probably think I turned evil overnight. If you as long as you established what you were before. Yeah. Yeah. If I just walk in here and I was like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:20 So when a main character shows up darker than usual, it's like, well, watch out. So we call the Trudeau. We can do that now. Can't we? Yeah. That's what I was talking about. If I showed up to this podcast and was suddenly going to use air quotes black, you would go, hmm.
Starting point is 00:27:42 Hmm. Hold on. Especially if you're just wearing normal clothes and it's not even an outfit. It's just you wearing normal clothes and kind of having slightly poofed up hair and ripped jeans. Where's the costume, bro? The ripped jeans is the one that makes me cry. Because you see the black knees. Because you did the black knees.
Starting point is 00:28:02 You see the black knees through the ripped jeans. Such dedication. What what series is what fate series is Trudeau from? Is he from? Is he from the carnival one? Yeah, sure. Or grand order. Oh boy.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Yeah. Well, anyway. So, um, grand blue fantasy. Yeah. Percival's in it. And, uh, big red armor, big flaming sword, slow, beefy hits. Big body character. Not a gigantic body.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Still, like, be she proportioned, but well, yeah, but walk in tall, big blade. La diva is the big body character, um, but Percival is more just a Percival. Yeah, flaming sword. So that was, yeah, that's a cool dude. Yeah, he's a cool. Yeah, he's a cool. He's a cool. What's great about, um, Movage characters is that or gotcha characters is that when you look up their name,
Starting point is 00:29:16 you see the character, then you see the dude with his shirt off and it's clearly still official art, then you see the Easter one where he's got like a fucking rabbit coming out of his ass and all that shit. Did you know that there was a single JPEG in fate that earned $3 million simply by people when it came out spiking to get it? Yes, I did know that. That's crazy. It is.
Starting point is 00:29:52 It's a JPEG. That's crazy. That's wild. But that I wish a JPEG of me could be worth $3 million. I'm super jealous. I'm just jealous of it being like that being the case. I'd like to just keep feeding Jolter her cake. She doesn't want more cake, but put it in the cake tube.
Starting point is 00:30:23 So, uh, when, when, um, hey man, I watched all of Tsukuhime and I played Melty Blood. Yeah. I know a little bit about Type Moon. Yeah. I liked CL. Yeah. And Nero Chaos. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Yeah. Yeah. So I think that makes you special. No, but I've earned at least an ounce of shit talk on Type Moon by putting in my time. I've earned a little bit of shit talk time on Type Moon. Oh, I love it. So, um, the other thing they shut off was the new BB tag. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:07 And the new BB tag has the Blitz tank in it. God, the animations are so stupid. I'm so happy. Oh my god. I'm so happy. It's like the Morgan's sprite of animation. It's so fucking hilarious. They, they legitimately kept it just like it is in Blitz camp, Blitz camp.
Starting point is 00:31:26 And like, they didn't overanimate it. They didn't try to make it look too much better. It's a crisp ass sprite, but that's about it. And like, they, I saw that at Ruby's like astral finish on it and it's just. Yeah. She's flying to the moon, riding on this tank. Oh my god. It's fantastic.
Starting point is 00:31:43 It's fantastic. So thankfully his stun doesn't lock you down like it used to, but everything else is there. And just for like, you got to, you got to find as many throw animations as possible on this thing. Because it looks like fucking Nugent. It looks like Nugent. Do you remember, uh, no, no, I played some real Mugen. I'll get to that. All right, all right, all right, all right.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Do you remember, um, Tatsunoko versus Capcom? Of course I do. Do you remember Alex? I do. Did you see how stun gun headbutt works? Yeah. He jumped up on, uh, like his shoulders and he would stun him up there. He jumps up on the PTO nine and goes, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Yeah, it was great. And, uh, and when he, when, um, when you do the super flash chop on roll, he crouches onto his knees and does a mini little flash chop to her chest. It's hilarious. He's like, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. Yeah, that's great. You know, like they actually customize the animations in those contexts. So in this case, they're not doing that because it's fucking sprites.
Starting point is 00:32:44 So we get to just watch this giant beefy Blitz tank get, um, um, whatever. Tager Buster, he just slides around on the screen. Yeah. No, that's fun. That's fun. Also a lot of wild new things they did to that game. Uh, it's really, it's much more colorful now. Really?
Starting point is 00:33:03 Yeah. Actually, there's a lot of brighter backgrounds. There's, um, some overhaul in terms of like presentation moves are now clearer systems are more clearer when they're announced, but still not completely because as Keith rightfully pointed out, it's like, that's the game where the flashing blue character is the one you're not supposed to hit. And I was like, oh my God, it's true. That's such an oversight.
Starting point is 00:33:28 You know, at least Marvel has an arrow pointing at you. It's super true. But anyway, um, but there was a crowd popping off over the details of how the characters were being implemented and what was going on. And one of the big pop offs I'm happy I was there for was we all saw Akihiko for one second, put his hands up and then do a little thumbs up. And it's like, oh mother fuck, they gave him his counter back. So that was one of the things that was missing.
Starting point is 00:33:52 That's a pretty big deal for him because he could just catch what you do and do a fucking rush punch off of it. So I'm really curious to see if they made it as good as it used to be there. Because that could be a huge deal for an already pretty good character. Right next to that setup was you want to talk about Mugen? We can talk about Mugen. Okay. There's a fighting game.
Starting point is 00:34:13 It's called Origin of Storms. It's been developed now and they had a two player, two character build sitting there and gave it a shot. And it's like, yeah, this is a very hyper fast paced Marvel type game, you know. But what they did was the developers also said, hey, like we can make something because Sages is coming up and that's the Sega fan game festival. And they're like, everyone loves like the Sonic fan game community is huge. Let's just grab some Sonic models and lay them on top of our fighting game.
Starting point is 00:34:50 That's where that came from. And now we've got Marvel Sonic and you've got a game that is basically what if Sonic the fighters didn't suck? Yeah. Because this thing is legitimately crazy. So Sonic Smackdown is what they made. They made it in four weeks and like. Just staple the Sonic on top of it.
Starting point is 00:35:13 100%. Yeah, that's great. Right. They grabbed. They literally just grabbed Sonic Knuckles, Tails, Shadow Rouge and Metal Sonic. Yeah, that's good. Slapped it all together and you got yourself a fucking fighter. It is wild.
Starting point is 00:35:31 It is hyper fast. It is nonsense. You are getting burst and meter all over the place. You can just it is off the chain. And I had I had a really fun time playing that. I sat down and played it with Jimmy and like I found some shit and I'm like, OK, here we go. I found the good shit because he was playing a character that he's a shadow with supers
Starting point is 00:35:54 that he does summon swords and then he teleports behind you and then he does projectiles that are out for a couple seconds and then track to you. So I'm like, oh, it's just Virgil. Yeah. And then I picked Metal Sonic and Metal Sonic has a giant overhead and then you do his super and it's a bionic arm. Yeah. And then he's got these spins that shoot him all over the place.
Starting point is 00:36:17 So I'm like, oh, this is Spencer, except also combined with what if Blanka was in Marvel? I think I found my main and I proceeded to thrash pretty hard. So hard, in fact, that when I got back there the next day on Saturday, they were like, hey, Willie, so we nerfed your character your character last night because that was a little bit nuts. And I was like, what the fuck? Willie. I got nerfed in 24 hours. That's the fastest nerf ever.
Starting point is 00:36:46 And then I sat down and I played again and I play against the devs and I played against the Jimmy and I continued to fucking wreck shot. All they need to know from harder. Good job ruining that character. And then I heard that they had a tournament and Metal Sonic won and then I and then they're like on the way out of the tournament. They're like, yeah, so we nerfed him again. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:08 And then I ran a stream yesterday on getting to fighting games and we played and I did not lose a fucking match and it was amazing. And then they sent me a tweet going, hey, Willie, we nerfed him again. You can't nerf me. Stop it. You can't nerf this. Yeah, you can. Call me, Diva.
Starting point is 00:37:30 All you got to do is just keep keep doing it. Eventually it'll hit a breaking point. Oh my god. Yeah. Yeah, you know, that's a quick turnaround, dude. That's a quick turnaround. Tails is basically like Rocket Raccoon laying traps everywhere, going nuts. Like it's legitimate, wacky, crazy post tournament shenanigans in the best way.
Starting point is 00:37:55 And like everyone is just hearing like, oh no, from like and then rings spilling out. Oh my god. And it's blasting super loud at the other end of the venue, you know. You're just like, yeah, yeah, they know what they're doing. They know what's going on. So that was a sonic smackdown, which the stream was yesterday. But that's fucking dumb. Video should be popping up soon over on Willie versus because we did more getting to fighting games.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Sorry, I keep you on and I got fucking woken up by like 10 a.m. by a fucking phone call. You need a Red Bull? No, I had my I had my Red Bull. Okay, you do what you got to do. But thank you kindly. I just got a power through, man. So yeah, there's so there's that. I really I enjoyed how many people how many you could you know when you're playing like your
Starting point is 00:38:52 switch and you can feel like occasionally a couple people glancing seeing what's going on over there. No. Oh, okay. I've never actually played my switch out of its dog. Oh, wow. Okay, well, I've had a couple of instances of like I'm playing it on the plane or at an airport or something. And then, you know, I've been that person.
Starting point is 00:39:10 I've been like, oh, what's going on over there? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So usually you kind of just get like if there's like a like an eight year old running around, he'll come over and just kind of stare at what you're playing for a while. That's pretty normal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:24 This time around, I'd really I enjoyed everyone staring at Sayonara Wildtard says I was playing on the on the planes. That was cool. Is that a music video? No, it's a video game you could play. There's a new game coming out this week called Cross Nick plus Cross and IQ plus. That's a pretty fun puzzle game. Played that as well on the channel.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Check it out. It's basically like this is a this is one where you're when you see the mechanic, you kind of have a bit of an aneurysm going, oh, fuck me. This is going to be really hard. Yeah. Right. So it's like this is hard enough when it's not against another person on a timer with a life bar, you know.
Starting point is 00:40:06 But the mechanic mainly here is you have a giant square of a bunch of mini squares, which doesn't have colors. And you are Rubik's Cubing entire lines and rows together. And to get big points, you have to do like a cross so that all the colors are doing a horizontal line of vertical. And it takes more than a second to get your brain into Rubik's Solving mode. Yeah. My brain doesn't go into Rubik's Solving mode, so I might have a trouble.
Starting point is 00:40:37 It's and it's not like it's a 3D cube. I mean, it's it's it's one dimension. It's one surface, but it's still more than enough to be like on a regular basis. So that's going to be coming up as well. Over and over again. Is that is that like a half hour video of you going? Oh, it's me and Reggie and men all going for a while sick. So yeah, but how how do like the tutorial walks you through it?
Starting point is 00:41:09 And it takes a while for it to click, you know, and then it does and then it's fun, but it still hurts. I think probably the most humiliating thing that I can think of is when you're playing a game and you go through and you're reading the tutorial and then you do with the tutorial ask you to do and it works and it goes great. And I go, I don't know. I don't get it. Sure.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Yeah, I did it. I but why why did why do that is like I did it. But did you I didn't I just told I just did what you said video game. Yeah. Speaking of doing what video game says. Yeah. You played that fucking goose game, bro. I did play that goose game.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Did you beat that goose game? I did beat that goose game. How fucking good is that goose game? Yo, there's a tweet that I've been thinking about all week. Everybody's been thinking about that same tweet. Is it the tweet? It's like video game companies are all like gamers want giant open worlds with sick graphics for their $60, man.
Starting point is 00:42:09 And then it's like gamers are like, haha, I'm an angry goose, honk. Oh, I was more along the lines of men only want one thing and it's fucking disgusting. Yo, that game's incredible. Yeah, it's insanely short. Holy shit. But it's amazing. And it does a really good job of like letting you figure out how to be a fucking goose. It's hit man.
Starting point is 00:42:35 And then you you're your hit man goose. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But instead of murder, it's let's see if I can make the old man fall on his bum, which is hilarious because I didn't know what the goals were going to be. But I went in with full on designs of being an asshole. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:48 And it just so happens that the progression was tied to me being an asshole. I had no idea that was going to be the case in the lake, man. But boy, was I happy that that turned out to be what I was supposed to do. You know, there was a more than a couple of times where I was like, I just went and did that thing. And then it was like, oh, yeah, you know, we wanted you to do that. Yeah, you got a secret progression. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Oh, did you fuck that kids day up? You did. Yeah, go cool. How many times did you find new ways to fuck it up? Yeah. Sick. You trapped him in the phone booth. You steal his glasses.
Starting point is 00:43:18 You make trip him up. Might make him in the garage. Make him buy back his fucking plane. Oh, yeah. It's not your plane. You dumb bitch. Good shit. And then and then even though it's not a gameplay thing at all,
Starting point is 00:43:27 sometimes when you would complete your task, would you honk and then spread your wings and then spin in a circle? Every single time. Doesn't it feel that it does nothing other than it's like a certain dominance over the humans. Look at me. I am goose. You owe me. Oh, so it's really funny because somebody pointed somebody watched but like I did a stream of it.
Starting point is 00:43:50 And you did you did two parts of video about beat it. And people were like, it's really funny how everyone approaches this in a different way. You approached it as goose as divine being here to smite God being. I was in goose mode before I pressed start, right? And I was just I was just what if I was a goose because it was literally just me acting like and doing the things that I would normally want to do but don't. And just like that game is a two to three hour nonstop. Got him.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Like nonstop. It's it's incredible. No, I believe that like if one had to experience a moment of goose consciousness, yeah, you would be crushed underneath the ego. Yeah. Of the goose. And it's it's referring to itself as the royal we. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:48 You know, I've been saying this for years and years and years. It applies obviously to geese, but most birds. Birds are the only animal type that wholesale refuse man's ascendancy. They refuse. Pigeons don't move. Ducks will attack children for fun. Birds will shit on you on purpose. Crows will rob you.
Starting point is 00:45:13 They don't care. You see that video that ostrich kicking that guy and then like running away like going, I mean, you could scatter you could scatter a bunch of pigeons and seagulls will sometimes fuck off depending on how used they are. Right. But but like there's always that thing like I remember dude that would live near me back in the day would always tell me about like him having a friend where like dude came for like he didn't live in downtown area.
Starting point is 00:45:43 So he wasn't used to seeing like fucking pigeons everywhere that just didn't give a fuck. And like the pigeon that gave so few fucks that the dude just picked it up. And the pigeons like, what are you doing? And then he just put it back down and it was like, what the fuck was that man? They don't give a shit. They're not afraid of you. Fuck dude. What are you going to do?
Starting point is 00:46:05 Yeah, yeah. No, there's always there's an old ass ancient internet gift of the pigeon crossing the street as the double decker bus swerves by it and like eight wheels weave in and out. And it's it just zooms in on it like like no fear not a single fuck was given this day. You know, so my favorite is going past like a malls and stuff. And you see the pigeons just sitting on the anti pigeon spikes. Great. Don't care.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Yeah. Yeah. So all that to say, you know, goose game, untitled goose game. That is by House House. Alternatively, if you're in Japan, the here comes the mischievous. Here comes the mischievous goose. What a good name. Fuck me.
Starting point is 00:46:54 That's such a good title. It's such a good title for not English. Yeah. So the whole time I'm like, man, this is the most British game ever. Like it's in a little British village and it's all. Oh, it's the goose. I even remotely and then and then I'm like, this is just like hot fuzz. And then you get to the end and it's just like hot fuzz.
Starting point is 00:47:16 And then you get to the credits is like, oh, it's a bunch of Australians. Actually, I said not even remotely, but it's quite literally remotely British. Yeah. So it really is. And I mean, I don't know how you went about things, but we went about things in such a way where there was a nice big pop off at the reveal at the end. Oh, there was. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:39 So you didn't catch it early. No, I didn't catch it. Good, good, good. Yeah. Go get Untitled Goose Game and probably get it for the switch. Yeah. Get it for platformer choice. They're they're all solid.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Right. Again, once again, it's a new week and I'm pushing a short but great experience. Goose Game made me giggle for an entire afternoon. And every time I think of it, I go. Giggle like a gaggle. Yeah. Ha ha ha. No.
Starting point is 00:48:11 No. Well. Goose are terrible. Crows are nice. It is a shame that crows got a murder of crows because crows are nice. It's a double shame that doves get the best reputation when doves are assholes. You know doves are just white pigeons, right? Basically.
Starting point is 00:48:31 They make the same noises. Like they're just all vinyl pigeons. They make the same noises. Yeah. Does that make sense? Cool, cool. Yeah, I'm a fuck. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Yeah, no, nothing can check a goose ego. Geese are just fucking wild and out. Pelicans are also just kind of terrifying because they don't really. They have no stake. So pelican this world pelicans are terrifying for a multitude of reasons. But the number one for me is that the way they eat things is the actual nightmare fuel. Well, that's yeah. If you do want some nightmare fuel and you're wondering why geese are such assholes
Starting point is 00:49:12 and why everyone's afraid of them. Geese can bite you. You would think that their their bills can't bite you for shit. Go look up what a goose mouth looks like. They have serrated teeth on the top and bottom of their bills, as well as the sides of their tongue. It's a it's a it's a fuck. It's a horror mouth.
Starting point is 00:49:34 It's a bad one. That's a horror mouth. They bite the fucking shit out of you. I brought it up during the video. But do you remember that episode of Rugrats when the goose gets grandpa grandpa's dentures? Yes. And it chases after the kids. Holy fuck, dude.
Starting point is 00:49:50 That is that shit. Never want to wait. It's stuck with me. It's stuck with me so hard. Yeah, um, that should have been something you could have done in goose game. Put the teeth in. Yeah, you got the glasses.
Starting point is 00:50:02 You got the tie. I really feel like that game like they must have spent like the longest amount of time making sure that ducks waddle. Sorry, that goose's waddle animation was perfect because it's perfect. It is. Every single time you move the character, you like you're like, haha. And you walk slowly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:18 And you just you go step. Yeah. Go step. Fucking right. Go step, go step. It is and one of the coolest things too is how you you always unlock that final challenge and then like move on. And then once you beat it, of course, you just get a couple more pages of shit to do.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Yeah. You know, even more shit to do. And then like shit, you could have done the whole time. I accidentally did one of those by like in the first level. So they were always there. Yeah. So this is the perfect example of like shenanigans as a gameplay design because like you pick a couple of fun things that you just get up to.
Starting point is 00:51:00 And then you start getting ideas for how to do other things because it's your problem solving. Yeah. You know, and then the game goes, OK, here's all the things you can do, you know, and you and you're just you just kind of go, oh, shit, like every zone has like probably 20 unique things you can get going here. But you only needed like six or seven to move on, you know. So that's a ton of fun. Uh, the the I do appreciate as well, like the power you feel when you jump in the water
Starting point is 00:51:33 where you're like this. You can't I'm invincible. I'm a goose. I mean, this is a goose install. My very favorite thing was grabbing the gardener's keys in the very beginning. Oh, yeah. Hit in the water and just floating way up the stream. You ain't you ain't dropping them.
Starting point is 00:51:49 The fuck you doing up. Yeah, you literally can't get over. No, son, you know, like what you're going to. Your keys are dead. That's it. That was that was super satisfied because like you just you feel so much more powerful in the water as a haha stupid human. So yes, huge push for entitled goose game this week.
Starting point is 00:52:09 It's great. It's just great. It's so it's so nice to have a game that there's very little to discuss other than man, it's great made me laugh. Also, it's really hard for games to be funny. This game's hilarious. And also cute little soundtrack. Yeah, really good dynamic piano soundtrack, especially during the final sprint.
Starting point is 00:52:37 Yeah. So for those shenanigans for a lot of fun play through of goose game cross cross Nick plus a more astral chain, a whole lot of sonic Smackdown. And of course, Samurai showdown. You can check out woolly versus Twitch and woolly versus on YouTube. Oh yeah, Samurai showdown. I didn't even talk about the fact that the tournament happened. Yeah, it was a really good time.
Starting point is 00:53:04 You do. Okay. I mean, I didn't get out of my pools again. You know, it is what it is. But like you should you should you know what you should fucking do the next time you get over tournament, you should bring like a pool noodle or like a or like fucking floatation. Yeah, that's pretty funny. I think people will see that go.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Oh yeah. Okay, that's good. I like that. And you know, one of those bits where I'm like, okay, but the you know, the people I lost to I'm like, yeah, I know you guys know how to play. I don't even I don't even hate that. And then thankfully got to play some casuals with them afterwards and figure out that match. So that was nice.
Starting point is 00:53:37 I really want to make a make a strong effort to do what I can while this game is alive. Yeah. So I'm doing it now. And it means definitely like things like streams are going to be a little less frequent. But like I'm going to all we have to do is get good enough to win an entire tournament at evolution. Certainly. And then it'll all be worth it. Then it'll all be worth it.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Then it'll all be worth it. And anything less means you'll have wasted your time. No, I know I'll have a lot of fun with it. But if you ever do happen to catch me on a stream and you happen to hope that and you happen to be cheering for me, do know that like the power that you want me to tap into requires me to not be in front of a camera sometimes. Of course. Because I have to practice play that much.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Don't look at me. I have to stealing my power. I have to play more than the other guy you've never seen. Yeah. He's been doing nothing but play that game. Well, that's not going to happen. I have to be better than that. So why not?
Starting point is 00:54:35 Why don't you just be better? Well, yeah. Yeah. Just make the right decision. Just make the right decision on every read. So Jimmy Bones made it to second place and fucking crushed it. Yeah. That was awesome.
Starting point is 00:54:48 Had a really good run. And then shout out to the QZK for taking it and having a really high grand finals. I'm really, really excited about Samurai Showdown right now. And I'm going to be going to the next couple majors, actually. So I'm going to be going to ECT. East Coast Throwdown coming up in October. I'm going to be going to Canada Cup. I'm going to be participating in the SNK World Tour event.
Starting point is 00:55:11 OK. You know, I'm doing what I can. Because yeah, if the game comes and then goes, which it eventually will, I will probably regret it if I didn't give it my best. OK. So. That makes sense. While it's here and now.
Starting point is 00:55:27 The last time I tried hard in a fighting game, the last time I really tried it tried was a Street Fighter 4. Yeah. You know, I remember. And other games I just kind of like I said, let me get decent enough to know how to play a team. Let me get decent enough to know how to like survive. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:42 I'm at the point where when a new one comes out, if I'm really into it, I'm like, I just want to get good enough to appreciate it. So that I don't look back on it and go like I didn't even play. Didn't even get to touch it. Yeah. So that's it. So that's why I'm just like, look, right now I know that this this game's life is temporary. So while it's here, let me just do it so that I don't regret it.
Starting point is 00:56:02 So all of that over at Wally versus besides Goose game, did you do anything else? I played so many fucking games this week. I played tons of games. This is the game. This is the week that I probably played the most games like podcast wise, like talk about of any week in the entire history of the CSP podcast. So I'm going to start this off.
Starting point is 00:56:22 One applied search two on Monday, which thanks for the big bag of money. Aside from the big bag of money, that game is actually extremely good. It's a little rough technically, like it's got stuttering, which is the main seems to be the main issue. It's a better search one. Search one had serious problems with level design and some enemy balancing where certain enemies were just way harder than they should have been, it seemed like you'd be coasting through a level and then there'd be one generic
Starting point is 00:56:52 enemy that would just ruin your fucking day over and over. Is it a direct sequel in terms of it is a very direct sequel? It happens. The basic gist is the main character of the first game completely failed and failed to stop a cataclysmic event. And you are now dealing with the cataclysmic event in the second game, which is a nano virus, which is the game's excuse for dramatically shifting its tone anesthetic.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Like the first game, if you remember, was a lot of future techno factory diesel. A lot of industrial stuff, primarily. The second game is like bordering on futuristic magical cyberpunk. Like the one of the primary high speed robot action. No, but one of the primary robot facts. One of the primary factions is like a techno cult that are draped in like cloaks and weird like glowing cyber snaps and like destiny. Let's say they threw some destiny chunks in there unit to wearing the scraps kind of.
Starting point is 00:57:59 Yeah, okay. It's still the body augmentation and stuff like that. And a lot of the sets return. In fact, most of the item types return, which is kind of a bummer because like weapon types say there's something called a single rig, which is a pile bunker. That move list is the same. They've added some new ones, which are cool. The number one thing that they improved massively and boy, does it make a difference
Starting point is 00:58:23 is the level design level design in surge one was like if you looked at the actual grid, you're like, yeah, that's good. There's shortcuts. There's a yeah. But the problem was that the art design behind it left it like you were just basically going through industrial corridors like nearly the entire game. And they were so similar and so like flat that you would get lost really, really easy. And there's no map, of course.
Starting point is 00:58:53 No, no map. In surge two, it is a city instead of a factory, which allows it to have here's the shop district with all the goofy signs. And here's the port district. And here's the shipping district. And here's the here's the nature district and just like the areas look like different locations. And it's easy to tell one street between the next and it looks really good. They've also gone absolutely bonkers.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Fuck crazy. It is the shortcut of all of the souls games and derivatives. There are more shortcuts per square foot in surge two than any game I have ever played. So it's obviously like I because I didn't see much more beyond like the first like hour or so. But like was the first game not kind of like a corridor. In its layout. Kinda. So is this now like an actual connecting hub?
Starting point is 00:59:59 Yeah, there's a hub zone and then the hub zone connects to multiple other zones. You will have to progress it as a corridor in that it loops around. But same thing as a souls game where those levels in many cases have to be tackled in a certain order. But yeah, it's surge one but much better. Like it's it's better. Boss fights still terrible though. Like they're just bad. The system they created with the limb targeting stuff.
Starting point is 01:00:25 It just doesn't work very well on gigantic enemies. Did they double down? No, there's actually it feels like there's the same amount. But there's more much better stuff in between it. Um, did that game have any kind of like fighting other NPCs that are just like you? Yes. In fact, the first boss is that. Okay.
Starting point is 01:00:45 And it's okay. It's better than it was in surge one, but not much. Okay. I also played code vein. Yeah, that's out. Which came out. Which is really funny. It's going to take a look at that later this week.
Starting point is 01:01:00 To talk about that in the same week that I talked about search two. Because that is the anti surge. It is the total opposite in every way. Aesthetically, instead of going for grungy, filthy cyberpunk that has kind of performance problems. It's Kirito. It runs immaculately and it is a god eater game. It is a sword art online.
Starting point is 01:01:27 Like and big eyes, giant fucking floating wabos. Kirito head on big, big titties and the biggest and big western armor. It is. It is absolutely absurd how anime it is to the point where you're in the so the whole area you're in is a destroyed hellscape ruins of a modern city with all these evil barbs going everywhere. And then you're in your base, your base is like a chill bar, but it's still in like ruined building.
Starting point is 01:02:00 And then you go out to the back and right next to your rooms that you would sleep is the hot springs. And you go into the hot springs and you're in a towel and all the characters that you're friends with also come out in their towels and they all just chill in the hot springs. And when you hit the button, it zooms in on every character in order so you can take photos of them in the photo mode. And it's just like souls. Wow.
Starting point is 01:02:27 Hot springs on sensor just fucking wow. Whereas surge is obsessed with chunky feeling like it wants it want it doesn't want flow. It wants like bang. But it wants like the feeling of like banging a hammer against like a steel rod. This is all floaty and slippery and anime feeling like it feels like an anime action game. And whereas surge is all about gearing up like you get a full set and set bonus and stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:02:59 Code vein has almost no gear at all, which is really bizarre for a souls game. You have your weapon. You have your shirt. And that's it for gear. The difference is is that classes. It does that thing where you earn a class and the class will be like berserker or mage and you put points into buying the skills for it. And then you can equip any of them at any time and equip any compatible skills or passives
Starting point is 01:03:30 that fit with it. So they're both they both want you to build characters but code vein is just it goes crazy. Like you buy out all the skills on fighter rogue ranger mage etc. And then you switch to berserker and your custom filling on extra stamina on this and I want the the move that does the giant jump with this the great axe and I want this and I want this and I want this. And it also has a magic system that desperately wants you to use abilities all the time because hitting people just regains your your icker or your I core or whatever that's your mana.
Starting point is 01:04:02 And if you do backstabs or like like charge attacks, you gain maximum icker or you essentially gain maximum mana until you rest. A big part of that game is also playing with your NPC. Yeah. It's a huge mechanic. Your NPC is pretty much always with you. Yeah. You can tell them to fuck off like a pawn or whatever.
Starting point is 01:04:26 Yeah, they are us. The game is much easier. Code vein is much easier than almost any souls game and it is in it is entirely due to the fact that your friendly character will drag is going hard on these enemies. So there was a boss that was like, oh, this would be the boss I fought in the demo. I remember it being like this would be a really brutal struggle and it still is pretty challenging actually. But someone else drawing aggro is like having that also they're doing damage like they're
Starting point is 01:05:04 doing real damage to bosses like having that summon with you the whole time. Overall, I think I like code vein a little better. I wish it just felt I just wish there was more hit. How many bosses did you fight? I only fought one. The games it spaces them out pretty well. The story is told really it's nice to play a type of game like this that there's a fucking story with cutscenes and characters you talk to where there's a plot.
Starting point is 01:05:33 And they do a little cool little memory thing. What I don't like about it, which is ironically Serge's strength is that the environments in code vein are terrible. They are copy pasted fucking God Eater levels in which they're just a bunch of quarters through a ruined area. And you have you have a dedicated map like a real map. And the map even tracks where you've been. So you have like a footstep thing like they added to it.
Starting point is 01:06:04 And the area is just really boring and the enemies are nothing special either. It's about your character. I have a hypothesis that like might totally be wrong here. But like I'm trying to put my finger on something. And I don't know how to describe it exactly. But I think I'm going to try code vein makes me think of how I think there's like when it comes to like anime and anime games, there are there are games that are like there are games where it is the genre creates the world in a way.
Starting point is 01:06:49 And there are games and anime where there is a anime flavoring that is kind of like a base template where the genre is then inserted in. Yes. What's your what's the stock of this dish? The base. Yeah, right. Is it is it chicken? Vampires or is it anime?
Starting point is 01:07:09 And and you so you kind of have this thing where it's like Astral Chain has it, Three Houses has it, you know, there's things where you're going to. It's like, OK, there's this. There's the look. There is the cast. There's the friends. It's about a bunch of young, yeah, cool kids hanging out, possibly even like high schoolish vibes.
Starting point is 01:07:29 Yeah. The on send thing you're describing is definitely going to be something that'll be there. And then but when the going gets tough and when the when the action starts, we go into the genre. Yeah. But then we leave the genre to go back to go back to the anime. It's fucking hilarious.
Starting point is 01:07:44 It's like the very first thing that happens in the game is you wake up and this this fucking she's a she's the she is literally the maiden in white girl in white instead of made in black. And she looks at you and her fucking dress is like, you know, that shredded fucking in pieces look and like the wind is blowing her fucking quadruple ease around. And she's like, you're like, OK, I see this game is going to have a lot of plot. Two giant plots right there. They're right there. And like it's it's overt and it doesn't care.
Starting point is 01:08:24 And it's almost appreciated. Um, but yeah, it's it's it's slick. The character creation is astonishing. I'm sure you've seen some of that. The the the character customizer. It's incredible. The one that was I saw before was not super. Oh, the the one in the base in the full game is crazy.
Starting point is 01:08:47 All sorts of shit. Oh, yeah. All sorts of shit. Yeah, you know, all sorts of shit. Do you want to wear hats on your knees? I just want to make me. Oh, you can. OK.
Starting point is 01:08:59 There there are like I went by the way when I streamed it, I went through it. There are like over a dozen different types of dreads. OK. Like are there like black features? No, you're always going to look anime. You're going to be an anime black person. No, no, no. Of course, you're going to be anime art style.
Starting point is 01:09:16 I mean, like on my are there browns or are there purples? So the colors, nothing's been purple in a while. I checked that as well. I'm just fucking around. There are six or seven different batches of skin tones. And so it will be like white and here's 10 shades of white. Cool. And then at the bottom, it's black.
Starting point is 01:09:37 And then there's one that on the slider is like like zero on the on the color scale. I'm like, OK, what's this going to be? And it was like, no, it's just like a dark black African kind of kind of skin tone. And it was like, oh, actually, when you go to change hair color, Jesus Christ, it goes to there must be a thousand different colors. And they're all rated like, do you want the earth tones? Do you want metallic shines? Do you want like it's fucking crazy?
Starting point is 01:10:07 There are like a thousand different eyebrows you can choose. It's it's crazy. And then the precision is important. The other the thing that makes the character greater go way above and beyond is they have a million options. But then they have the accessories tab. She's like, hey, do you want headphones or like earrings or like a like a glowing halo or whatever?
Starting point is 01:10:29 But they will allow you to choose one of like 15 anchor points on the character head, front of head, back of head, side of head, elbow, front of elbow. You can then enlarge it and decrease it as you desire. You can then rotate it and pan it in any way. Did I was able to show off that you're able to make characters with top hats growing out of their eyes? Did they have the ore emo eyebrows? I don't know what you are asking me.
Starting point is 01:10:58 Malo from Twilight Princess. I I try and beherge Malo from my mind. But yeah, you can very easily make your your pretty anime person. And God damn it, they will be a pretty anime person. The one thing that you don't get a lot of control over is the facial structure. Because fuck you, they're going to be pretty. I don't work really hard to give my character bags under their eyes. I'd use face tattoos and shit.
Starting point is 01:11:29 The only beard available in the game is a tattoo of a beard. Of course, of course. They're not and it's a little it's a little goatee. You're going to spend assets putting a fucking facial hair on on teenage kids. Do you know what you can do? You can fake it because in the accessories menu, there's a sequence of, you know, when your characters got like short, slick back hair, but they have the one strand.
Starting point is 01:11:55 That one strand is an accessory that you add and then place on your character's head. So you can move it around. But they also have bangs. They also have like a flop covering the eyes. So if you want to get real creative, you can totally make a beard out of pieces of hairstyles. I'm a fan of when the character looks like Curito plus a beard. As opposed to like some old man. But yeah, so fucking code vein and search two are absolutely fine additions to the souls formula.
Starting point is 01:12:25 I don't think anybody's cracked it to be just as good as the soul series, but they're getting there. They're all getting there. And code vein is the first attempt from that studio and it's a good first attempt. Search two is the second and it's a much better attempt than the first one. And then I played Neo because I had to know because I'm doing all these and I ran into the same problem. I run into Neo every time where the gear system and you're picking up hundreds of fucking pieces
Starting point is 01:12:51 of shit every single goddamn second and I had a fucking anxiety attack looking at that menu. Stop. It's not that bad. And then there's colors to tell you. And then I play MMOs. MMOs are different. But the numbers are at the present. So people ask me a question that I am finally able to answer.
Starting point is 01:13:09 Why is it that code vein does this? Sorry. Neo does this to you, but Diablo doesn't. Right. And Destiny doesn't and Final Fantasy 14 doesn't because you're getting a random piece of gear. Is it better than the piece of gear you have right now? What's the color? Throw it on.
Starting point is 01:13:26 What's the color? What's the percentage? Right. Here's the difference. And I was able to figure it out. All of those games do have all those same systems, but Neo has one extra system that factors in, which is your weight limit. Because with the weight limit,
Starting point is 01:13:43 not only do I have to think of, is this thing better? But if I change it and I'm over the weight, I now have to consider every other piece of gear. Yeah. So I'm having to consider all of them simultaneously. Yes. Which is the part where I go, What do you want to prioritize?
Starting point is 01:13:57 They have other abilities on them. And then you choose which one of those is the most important to you. And then the others fall in line accordingly. So I spoke with a friend of mine. How did you equip chips in Automata? What do you mean? Because chips technically, if you consider their size, the weight in a way,
Starting point is 01:14:14 like how did you prioritize which chips you wanted when the really good ones were too big for your slots? Oh, I just maxed out the biggest chip. I chose the largest, biggest, strongest chips I could and tried to engage with the system as little as possible. In Astral Chain? But you had to pick certain abilities that you wanted. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:33 No, it's not. Woolly, a chip in fucking near has one function and it has a size item in fucking Neo. First of all, there are 100 different gloves that are identical in defense value. And then they also have all randomized stats. That was not the case in near. No, it's not.
Starting point is 01:14:56 No, it's not identical to the case. I'm just saying if the size, if the limit and ability. Woolly, it is a synthesis of all these things together. All these things separately, I can deal with no problem. But having to do all of them at once becomes a paralytic choice. It really is not. I played Neo.
Starting point is 01:15:12 Woolly, I'm not talking about you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're talking about. I'm talking about. You're not talking about you either. You're talking about goblins. Yes, I am talking about goblins. And that's something different in title.
Starting point is 01:15:21 But I was able to move past it because the trick with this anyway is that there's a threshold that once you, like people say, well, just don't care about this. I'm like, but look, after I went a couple levels, I was able to determine, man, you are burning through gear so fast like you are. Like you could switch your your your chest armor
Starting point is 01:15:44 like five times in a mission to the point where I'm like, I'm just not going to change items in mid mission because it's taking up like actual half hour. I never did it defensively. I if I pick up a better weapon. Yeah. So yeah, better weapon. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:59 And then I would get to the end of the mission and I would just equip whatever had the highest defense value while keeping under the weight. And that's it. I am I my solution is to flat out. Ignore every bonus. It's like, is that shit on your feet giving you something that you want more
Starting point is 01:16:20 than the thing on your body? No, then. No, stop it. Fine. Then take the other one. No, shut up. Is the defense value high? And so the other thing is I spoke to a guy who beat it
Starting point is 01:16:30 three, four times on New Game Pluses. God. And he's like the game communicates that to you early. Like it's important. But those those bonuses are actually very minor until you get to New Game Plus. Which is and it was I was talking to people was like it is kind of weird how the,
Starting point is 01:16:48 you know, you know how like a menu or like a stat screen can imply what things are important by their size on it? Like the like how much think of Mark of the Ninja? Remember Mark of the Ninja had like a combat system in it at one point and then they took it out because they're like the game's not about combat. It's not playing.
Starting point is 01:17:08 They didn't play it. Not like it's great. But you know how like if you load up an inventory screen and the biggest number is like defense or attack, it's like, look, that's the one that matters in Neo. The defense number is a tiny little number at the top and most of the page is dedicated to these random buffs. None of the souls numbers are different size.
Starting point is 01:17:29 You go to that page and they're all the font. Yeah. But the only one that matters on that one is like the all of them matter equally. There's a damage. There's scaling. There's weight. Right.
Starting point is 01:17:40 Anyway, point being I was able to push through one. I still think that game has a gear problem. It needs less gear that matters more because you are drowning in trash. Like 99.9 percent of the gear you pick up is garbage. Like you're walking out of missions with like 400 items. You can only equip seven. And then you just and then you fucking junk them all.
Starting point is 01:18:06 Yeah. When you go to the shop. It's like you look at Destiny or Diablo or Borderlands. You're not getting like an actual thousand items at the end of the thing. You're getting 10 and like two of them were pretty good. Right. I will say this.
Starting point is 01:18:20 I don't fully agree with you, but I do. I will say that when you open up a chest and you get a fucking good piece of armor, that's a rarer thing than having every enemy drop something you might want every single fucking enemy drops some bullshit. But the money you're getting off of selling them is pretty good. Yeah. But then they should just drop money and then you use that money.
Starting point is 01:18:42 Yeah. To do the things. It's it's just there's there's like there's way more chaff. Like also you might want the look of that item. And to do your your that didn't even exist when the game your glamour came out. No, but I mean, they added it. Now you can glamour on the things you want to pick up.
Starting point is 01:18:59 So like it really is in the name of giving you the most customization possible. They've broadened up what you're picking up so that you can really, really I just nitty gritty. I detail it if you care about that. I just wish you don't have to care about it. Picked up was worthwhile. You don't have to care about it though.
Starting point is 01:19:20 And clearly you didn't bother with it. I yeah. And it's super fine. And so instead you get to the point where it's not going to help you dodge that attack and you're hoovering up like just garbage. It's not going to help you do your stance switching properly. It's not going to you know what I mean. Like but it is.
Starting point is 01:19:35 Yeah. No, woolly. I'm well aware that a lot of it is goblin based. But what I don't believe is goblin based is that in a loot game. I don't think 99% of the shit you pick up should be trash. I think. But that's what I'm trying to say though is that like it one man's trash is another man's trash.
Starting point is 01:19:54 No, but it's actual not useful. It's something you'll never equip. It is duplicated actually literally 20 times by other items in your inventory. Like there are only so many looks in that game. At the same time if you're not necessarily doing a run that's like I mean sometimes you can go and do a run where you're just like I'm just trying to make money. Yeah. And sometimes you can do well that would be very easy because man and other times you're
Starting point is 01:20:19 doing a run where you're like I'm just trying to get to the boss and that means you're not going to do a bunch of those optional mini bosses. You're just going to gun it to the fucking boat or whatever and in those cases. Yeah, you're not picking up garbage unless unless you check the you know. Unless you see with something special but like for the most part you're just you're not caring about the loot. So again it's something that it's like it's there if you want to pay attention to it. You don't have to pay attention to it.
Starting point is 01:20:44 And if you do you get a lot of nitty gritty details if you want them. But I didn't mind it. I remember being pretty. How far did you get in you? Maybe like five hours in six hours in. I think I'm about that now. I don't I maintain that I don't like the mission structure. Like I get it and there are some advantages to it.
Starting point is 01:21:14 I don't like how everything is disconnected and levels are actually kind of small. I do like however that because the levels are completely disconnected they don't have to give a fuck about continuity of environment. Certainly not. And they just do whatever the fuck. You can just design it for the like the third the third real level is the fucking like torrential downpour on a temple. At the same time being dropped off at a different spot on a map you know is
Starting point is 01:21:39 and going out. That's interesting. I like how they do the submissions and it's like it's it's dusk now instead of night and you're starting and you're doing level backwards. Yeah. Like you you you take that in a bit more than like the full connected map experience. I really got to use the bathroom. Oh that's fine.
Starting point is 01:21:56 What I would like to say about Neo is that after beating Sekiro which came afterwards and now going through Neo it's I don't put this. It is fascinating to me how much I prefer the way Neo does it. I really I really underestimated how much I needed multiple weapons in a souls type game which is funny because in a single playthrough I would almost never actually switch weapons and in Neo I'm playing nearly exclusively with the Odachi you know the big sword but in Neo they actually even give you three weapons essentially for the cost of one. I mean there's the high low and medium stance and they all function like pretty differently.
Starting point is 01:22:48 They change your dodges and stuff like that. So even at a medium weight I can fucking dash around or I can do the big rolls and whenever I go back to Sekiro I'll occasionally peek my head in. I'm just so bummed out that all I have is the default sword and then I'll never be able to replay it with anything else and it makes me feel like little to no desire whatsoever to pretty much ever replay it whereas I'm going through Neo and I'm dabbling in dual swords and the spear and because I can you know the other thing is that I mean Neo has like a million more moves than Sekiro does. So welcome back Wolves were you able to hear any of that?
Starting point is 01:23:36 Yes. Neo's moveset is gigantic compared to Sekiro's. Sekiro's sword is super boring and like the thing that keeps it interesting is the way the bosses interact with it and the way you have engaging sword fights with the bosses is really cool and they designed those clashes to play out in very particular ways. They didn't have the time to do that clearly with every secondary weapon as if it were a primary. So if you were walking around with Sabi Maru or even the umbrella as a primary weapon. It's not. It just isn't. They're spells man. They're the equivalents of spells.
Starting point is 01:24:21 Didn't have the time or the money to do it but god damn would it have been great if it did. Yeah and like Neo I mean it doesn't have the big cool clashes but it's just like I'm using one weapon. You can use a Fusari Gamma. There are so many moves on just that one weapon. There's the three stuff like the one it's crazy you know and it's just like let's say Sekiro is a better overall game and it's slicker and smoother and better right and it's got less rough edges. I will likely never play Sekiro again unless there's DLC because when I go through it it will be like yep I'm blocking it and I'm crushing it whereas Neo it's like yeah I could totally go through that. He still thinks Sekiro should be a Souls game like the rest of the idiot.
Starting point is 01:25:08 No variety is good. End of story. Variety is good. Less choices is not as good. It's just that simple. Yeah I wanted to play. If Sekiro had a second weapon I would like it way more. It's literally just choices man. If you had a spear in Sekiro I would probably love that game way more than I do now. So the funnest part about the way Neo handles its weapons is that when you pick up let's say a hammer or a spear or a bow and arrow and well that's different but and like if you don't like you know how you like pick up a weapon in like whatever Souls game you do the combo and be like I don't like this part of it. Remember me going I like this the partisan instead of the the other spear the wing and spear thing right yeah and I was like no slightly different poke but but the
Starting point is 01:26:00 poke timing difference matters to me so I want that timing I don't want that stagger after I whiff right um that's what it was it was the whiff stagger yeah um so in fucking Neo you switch stances and you try out the other one and see if you like that one. It's like oh I really like the the the heavy stance for the default sword but I don't like the quick stance for the default sword yeah you know so you you you can actually switch up like the move set you're going to play with going through the level if you don't like that default one and if the third second one or third one is more yours fancy then you can just learn a place that enables you to do a quick switch for what any other game would be a different weapon to deal with a different situation so a
Starting point is 01:26:45 really good example is in Dark Souls 2 there's a fantastic sword it's the claymore it's got a really good stab and it's and it's regular attack is two big fucking wide horizontals which is great but what if I don't need horizontals well I have horizontals that's what I'm gonna deal with yeah with the odachi which is the one I'm the big sword that I'm going with for Neo it's like the medium stance is giant wide hits or a stab so it's very similar to that but the heavy is just huge overhead bam huge damage and then the quick is just quick slashes pretty much directly in front of you in a small cone so I can adjust not just per situation or per enemy but also per like a specific enemy position yes so the onis for example after their swing and they get their axe kind of in
Starting point is 01:27:37 the ground if I'm at a certain spot the medium will totally clip the horn right off their head in one go but if I'm closer I would go I would switch to the heavy and hit the heavy and they're just there's like five times as many decisions that you get to make with how you swing your actual weapon or you can say fuck it to all of that because you have stand switching and you have the focus system yeah and you can say fuck it to all of that and like if you learn one stance that you like and just position yourself to catch the there's just a lot going on you know you can just you can play that like I'm going to wait for you to be open and land whatever I want Sekiro is weird because despite it being such an aggressive game the game is about defense
Starting point is 01:28:19 like the game is about you defending yourself yeah often hold your sword up to make your your your uh posture go down right and your attack options are actually hilariously limited raise your sword right in neo your defensive options are pretty limited blocking is kind of bad um dodging is good on certain stances but your attack options are enormous yeah I think I think honestly like based on what from soft has done recently it's just and of course who the team was working on it like Sekiro really does get lumped in with this conversation yeah what it almost really shouldn't be it shares structural elements yeah it makes sense yeah the button layouts the same yeah like you can even have a jump you know what I mean like
Starting point is 01:29:10 it it really just I just I feel that hard tension part of it yeah totally you know it's it's a it's a spinoff um and uh and that spinoff lets you see things that you really wish other games in the genre would do better movement mainly Sekiro has got the best movement out of all of them and there's things you dislike horribly it's like that that parry system's unbelievable but it meant we only got a fucking default katana and that's a bummer it's like and they try and trick you into thinking there's more weapons by giving you a dagger and an umbrella but they're functionally the same as a poison spell and a shield spell they're even linked to the same button mm-hmm yeah no it's it's it's a variety is good right he's good yeah that's all there's to it you
Starting point is 01:30:02 will also I totally got used to the stamina system in neo like the the key pulse thing yeah like it took it was vicious for a long while did you did you not get the hang of it the first time around no it I kept forgetting because I kept just rolling away and then having the stamina and then at there was a certain moment and she's like no just doing it every time 100% of the time it's fantastic the graphic of the yeah you know yeah once I realized the blue sparkles coincided with the your bar like it helped a lot um it's funny because I played oh I also played ashen so I the other one that game also gives you a partner like code vein all the time all the time so you just went on a soles off well I mean search two and fucking code vein came out that week
Starting point is 01:30:55 so why not I played three of them on stream one neo I'm playing tomorrow I didn't play I've played it myself ashen is an epic store game exclusive currently on the pc um it is a it is like an indie souls it's drawn really flat the art is super cool and it desperately desperately wants you to co-op because if you aren't co-oping a npc associated with your quest will follow you everywhere and is needed to open the doors to dungeons pods like yeah again but it is it is like uh it is required it also does something wildly different and that is 90% of the game's topography is open fields and planes and mountainous regions and stuff like that is it is not corridors I don't hate that that sounds cool it uh it is cool that sounds interesting
Starting point is 01:31:50 I don't like it can you uh there's no like mounts or any of any kind okay all right um there's a really cool town system where there's a town that as you get npcs I like open they'll go back to like firelank or whatever the equivalent but every time you go back they will have built new buildings like it is rapid that that town is becoming a thing very quickly uh and the the story is very very metaphysical it's it's very like the lightest come back to the world and you got to fix it that kind of thing but there's just something off about it it just feels very bare bones um and it is a much cheaper game I think it's like 20 bucks um and you go I went through the first area that was like a you know a more open thing kind of like a horizon kind of thing and I
Starting point is 01:32:45 went through the second area and it was a different colored one and I went through the third area and it was like a little more mountainous but it's like it feels more like you're going through like world of warcraft zones than like a souls type area and because it's open areas like enemies will ambush you by crawling out of the dirt okay and jumping off of cliffs and it's just I don't know it's just it's a you ever get that feeling like this is a really cool game that I don't like at all um yeah I know that feeling um so you you uh you played it on the epic star yeah you didn't get a console version no I played it on the epic store um and the one thing that I will say is that what I would think is probably the weakest of these is ashen is still
Starting point is 01:33:34 pretty good and we are coming a long way from shit like lords of the fallen and necropolis like these games are getting really good they all have their weaknesses and it's kind of amazing to see how they all have weaknesses that are complementary to each other this is the one with the incredible level design which would be surge right this is the one with the incredible combat options with your character's movement and power which would be neo this is the one with the incredibly in-depth build system and the the super a plus presentation which would be code vain right and they're all they're all there some of them are exceeding the soul series by a significant degree but they're not as consistent none of them are a consistently well put together thing on
Starting point is 01:34:24 everything but they're getting there um ashen has that that hyper flat hyper flat fortnite uh absorber look your character does not have a face but they can have a mustache yeah um it and also there was always that other game that looks like this uh well absorber i mean you said that absorber is the grand stream saga for the playstation one where nobody had any faces rhyme rhyme yeah rhyme looks a lot of rhyme looks like this ashen though um so you played all that and i also played another game for big bag money thanks thanks everybody uh which is called stygian which i did not know at the time was a kickstarter game um stygian is in the katulu verse it is like you hit the title screen and katulu is right there it's right there and it is a fucking new
Starting point is 01:35:27 england town got sucked through a fucking portal into the katulu verse or whatever and the dismal man led you there is that not always the story it's pretty much always is and you create a character you choose all sort you choose from a wide variety of skills and it's like do you want to be good at psychology medicine detective firearms etc like a whole batch of them then you choose your belief system which is fascinating do you want to be rational humanistic religious occultist etc and by choosing dialogue options associated with that and role playing your character adequately you will gain sanity and the most interesting to me is nihilists nihilists can't gain extra sanity by saying the right things but they start with the higher
Starting point is 01:36:14 sanity potential interesting because they don't care uh and i loaded it up and it is a 2d side view fallout 2 in katulu town the combat is on a fucking hexagonal grid like fallout 2 was uh it is extraordinarily devoted to having long conversations with a shit ton of skill choices so as a very good example i walked downstairs into a pub there was a crazy man playing darts and as he started talking about how he's technically the world champion because they're sealed off from the rest of the world i used my psychology option to say you're just using darts to distance yourself from the nightmares that you see outside and he freaked out i gained sanity he gave me some cigarettes and then he threw a dart in my face and i took damage okay uh the writing's really good
Starting point is 01:37:13 uh the setting is fascinating the art style is really interesting the art style is really interesting it looks like it looks like an ed for an anime like like like uh attack on titan season 2 our monster yeah um and i dug it man and it's it's you dug the lovecraftian thing no i dug the rpg actually okay um it's a it's a fucking classic ask fallout 2 style rpg and that style is really rare like you know i talked about how the point and click like balder skate style that shit was dead for a while it came back because now we got fucking balder skate and all those re-releases we got pillars we got a divinity like those games came back that style did not come back the the fallout style the gerps style uh hot layout looks like you can build a party of three
Starting point is 01:38:06 yeah you get a party of three uh max i did not get a party of three what i got was a bodyguard that i had to pay 20 cigarettes a day okay um uh yeah it looks cool it's a i really enjoyed uh what i played of it it is the kind of game that i will absolutely go back to once somebody wrote writes a guide on how to build a decent character because i made a character and that character sucked ass uh though they do have pre-built options for you there there is a like do you want to play a scientist here's a scientist build that will totally be able to beat the game no problem it'll be a named character and and whatnot well any builds can beat the game no problem ah this type of game you can you can fuck it up really oh yeah dude
Starting point is 01:38:53 okay let me bring it down to uh an analogy that i know you understand which is dungeons dragons second edition hey woolly you're a wizard what's going to be your highest score uh score yeah your ability score strength charisma intelligence intelligence yeah yeah what if you made a wizard with 14 strength and four intelligence then you can't use your guess what you just made a terrible wizard yeah right yeah uh in a game like this you get like say 10 skill points let's say i put one into firearms one in the blunt weapons one in the psychology one in the medicine one in the scientific research one into etc and then i have a character who's actually still bad at everything but then you but then you build the yeah you but what if you
Starting point is 01:39:40 build a wizard that has a really good punching ability as a secondary trait and then you put it all into one magical you are describing the thought process behind the creation of the way stats work in pillars of attorney okay in which they rename strength to power and they're like your if you have a high a high power and low intelligence you would be known as a muscle wizard yes in which you can't cast complicated spells but you can tell that you do cast hit super fucking hard yeah yeah right yeah uh but yeah so i will go back to that once some uh once i either get the guts to use a pre-creative character or uh or what have you gandalf pulling out a sword or some min max thing games cool cool uh i get really lucky and then every time i get approached for a sponsor
Starting point is 01:40:29 i'm like i'll check it out and then i check it out and then it's like oh this is good yet to be offered a bad game to look at well i mean it's more like if you were you probably just wouldn't have accepted it yeah but i haven't gotten one that i didn't that i had to actually have a moral conundrum gotcha i've never had the situation of going huh ethics but money which is nice you go for the ethics because ironically ethics will lead to more money in the future but yeah i've had a bunch of those yeah where i was kind of like yeah but just on a phone like you want to tell me if you want to give me two million dollars to tell you anthems the best game i've ever heard of let me tell you anthems the shit you should all play
Starting point is 01:41:14 anthem right now yeah more along the lines of like if it's on a phone and it's really good then i'll i'm gonna talk about it yeah but if it's just another phone thing then i'm not gonna so that's how that go but you know um uh let's see what am i planning on that's stygian reign of the old yeah which it abbreviates really dumb it abbreviates to stygian roto oh roto roto roto i also checked out uh a new tv show on page's recommendation she had seen it uh at somewhere i think a friend's house recently um have you ever heard of a tv show written and produced by uh garfunkel and oats called another time no but i do know the show garfunkel and oats okay and i've watched quite a few episodes of it so garfunkel and oats the singer songwriter
Starting point is 01:42:08 duo hilarious that are the writers and performers of the um uh the amazing ballad fuck me in the ass if you love jesus um uh they are the uh writers as well as the uh one of them uh they both act in it as well and the producer sorry the creator of drunk history is the director oh yeah okay uh and it is uh rich pieces of fucking garbage in 1902 road island being the kardashians you know human garbage you don't pick that era specifically unless you have some really good ideas it is it is and like you'll be watching it and it's like oh there's chris pernell as sygman freud and there's jack black as the beauty pageant man and it's just all these ha you mean another period yes yes yes okay okay okay right yes yes that's what i said yes okay
Starting point is 01:43:09 i did see an actual commercial for that a while ago so somebody in the chat says always sunny but with rich people yes always sunny but with rich old people okay this is not new this is pretty oh this has been out for a while it's canceled now yeah i saw i saw a commercial for this when i was at somewhere in america it is when it was around when it was coming out yeah it's got christina hedrick says yes yeah totally no i know exactly what you're talking about now it is really funny but you know always sunny you laugh but then part of it is like uncomfortable because it's evil like the dentist system this is the darkest black comedy i have ever witnessed in a program that aired on television because of the era because of the era yeah there is a bit in which victoria is
Starting point is 01:44:03 old there's the there's the blonde and the brunette the main characters yeah victoria's old boyfriend played by ben stiller uh charles ponzi comes back after abroad after leaving her at the altar at the age of 11 and says but i'm the only man who can do this and he he uncorks a ring and a bunch of cocaine falls out and she goes oh romance candy and then she starts snorting it away and you go oh i love you and he goes yes and i know that you love this and he puts cocaine all over his finger and goes at it and starts fingering her and she goes oh my god i feel like i was 11 again and he goes no you don't it is it is the darkest comedy it is like it is it is not on the air anymore you say it is it is super cancelled okay it is that is constant like three four five six times an episode
Starting point is 01:45:10 there is something where you're like am i supposed to laugh at this because this is the worst thing i have ever seen oh my god there's an entire theatrical production of mic face in the show there's a there's uh like wow it's uh it's a whole turbo cancelled it's it made it for three seasons and it's really funny but it constantly makes you feel really bad okay it makes you feel really really bad in your chest garfunkel notes didn't do that it was just funny but it didn't i mean it it left you with some cringe yeah cringe was the worst of it this always sunny definitely skirts that that line though well it is it is an homage to always sunny and drunk history yeah to the point where at one point where to cure a character of their their damned homosexuality they have they
Starting point is 01:46:06 go to the crazy old man who lives in the barn and he teaches them about the hommish system because his name is hommish okay and it's the it's the heat aggression uh mesmerize interact sequester and then hit to romance a woman and it's like this this is what the dentist system actually was right yeah because of the time because of the time and it's like oh right the time is horrible and then you look and then you i dig a little digging in page knows a lot about the period and they're they're making fun of the fat ugly character because she's got bicycle face don't you dare ride that bicycle you'll get bicycle face which is the horrible look of exertion that a woman would have upon riding a bicycle only to discover that bicycle face is a real insult
Starting point is 01:46:59 from the 1900s to get women to stop riding their goddamn bicycles so it's it's weird clash of history nerd yeah and vile vile horribleness three seasons yeah how much did you watch uh about first half the first season okay it's hilarious but also very uncomfortable yeah yeah it is it is unit okay so remember the gang gets racist episode one episode one season probably the hardest watch of them all when he walks over to that black girl no bigger go home it's it's so it's painful right that's like every five oh yeah oh yeah yeah yeah no i definitely remember seeing a commercial teasing it it's premier when i was in the states and i was it was funny but then like i was like okay well i don't live here so that's the end of that but uh yeah okay yeah very enjoyable
Starting point is 01:47:53 you need a strong stomach and that's and that was another period yeah another period not another time no did i say another time oh i'm sorry i met another period my bad yep and that's it for pat's week you want to check out a bunch of streams and streaming streaming a bunch of bullshit this week i'm streaming like neo and fire emblem and file fancy seven this week go down to twitch.tv slash angriest pat just do that we also uh we netflixed uh end of ava yeah got to yeah and then then then the talk yeah and uh yeah what yeah why so why do that yeah it's like oh what that happened it's like and like i what i what i i liked like i made sure to me one of the most important things is to make sure to pause just because again punch mom's a
Starting point is 01:48:45 little bit of a passive watcher at things and you sometimes look down at her food while the subtitles don't have time for that no you don't don't have time for that during that you don't you don't when they're fucking driving uh past the the the the shells of unit zeroes and uh we're getting the description of mankind as the 18th angel yeah you can't look down at your food there yeah that's an important conversation it's that half second clip of adam just going yeah you know like you can't miss that right um but but i made sure to pause when the title popped up yeah because it says episode 25 yeah and then episode 26 and like you i'm like wait and she's like yeah and i'm like no that says 25 and she's like yeah like not 27
Starting point is 01:49:39 oh you know like just the little little bits and like don't miss this nope stop stop chewing you don't want to be an annoying shitty fucking but it's the kind of thing it's like it's a super concerned about being that person weird complicated movie yes that wants you to desperately pay attention in a theater thankfully i like the the the two three times that i did do that it was like oh thanks i didn't catch that if you didn't do that yeah type of things i'm like yes okay good you know uh whoo end of ava yeah it's it's been a minute the last time i saw end of ava i just started bawling my eyes out for no reason like i wasn't even particularly upset about the plot i was just
Starting point is 01:50:34 like i just became upset i didn't um i didn't realize that uh also because that you know because they put up um not death and rebirth but uh death true yeah right which is you know yeah that's all you need right uh i didn't realize that like in some of the overlapping dialogue and changes and things that they did to that that they included a kind of prototype instrumental version of um comes as your Todd really in one or two moments and i was like wait wait what that was in there huh and it was like yeah they they hinted at the theme in death what a great song i never want to hear it why doesn't make me feel well your feelings come tumbling down yeah they will i don't like it i think it's the song i think because it was when the song was playing i think the song upsets me
Starting point is 01:51:37 oh it's so good it's amazing stop it no i'm serious don't do that the way it starts and you're like wait excuse me it's it clashes heavily with the subject matter occurring at the time it's fantastic yeah not to mention the um the other song that i always forget the tide love that but the the credits uh theme and at the end of 25 um now it's time i think i've only i think i've seen that only once because i always watch the the theatrical cut oh well that's an interesting one because it comes in at the end of 25 and then 26 you get your remember when Misato shot that fucking dude down that hallway and said sorry nothing personal oh man remember when that guy got fucked uh not harder than that one girl dragging that one guy down that hallway and she's dragging him off camera
Starting point is 01:52:38 and like your brain like subtly imagines that if she can just get him off frame they'll be safe yeah and she almost gets that body off frame and then the guard running by stops and goes what no you don't and then the bullet rips through and before she hits the ground it just cuts to the next scene you're like you can't even see the body hit the floor no yeah yeah those are some dedicated goons yep bad goons were you having your last thoughts main character let's interrupt with a fucking explosion oh my god yeah yeah man it's nuts it's nuts but and kendo's the worst but yeah well he you know he gets he gets what he deserves um i disagree i don't think he can get what he deserves no he does because what he gets is the exact opposite of what he wants yeah
Starting point is 01:53:40 you know and it's like one thing worse than death in that situation right what is uh fun is like after all of this and after rebuilds going back and seeing this and seeing what's up and it's like wow rebuild is another world yeah i mean literally but also just you know this is something else entirely yeah and i don't know if she's gonna check him out you know she feels like doing more i'm like you can you can you can dive in if you want to dive in again those first who are pretty good see what's going on but i think the jury is going to be out until it's done yeah and it won't be done until never five maybe i don't know man it's it's far away it's far away in the meantime check out these cute girl angels with these funny hats okay ramiel's got that funny
Starting point is 01:54:35 little hat wait what are you talking about the cute versions of the angels oh i didn't see that and all the oh yeah there's these little collectible things and all the angels as like little just sushil you know all of them they are they're all cute oh adorable and little masks japan's weird man and then there's a happy alternate versions of realities than infinite this is as many as you want yeah you know everybody's buddy buddy look gendo is shaving and he's having a great time that's the worst it's not that's far from that's the worst there's a million of them they're all out there there's so many crazy van gillian is the my nonsense images that are canon evan gillian is the pinnacle of fucking baffling like tonally dissonant advertising ever because
Starting point is 01:55:23 the image of a character that you recognize is enough to just be like look it's the show you know you like the thing and it doesn't matter what the character is about or what they do or whether or not they're a pedophile or a murderer or anything all sorts of shit architect of humanity's destruction yeah yeah but that's a clean shave right there yeah yep it's a clean shave i still maintain that everybody did something wrong but fuyutsuki and maya and the boys on the computers were the least wrong of all the wrongs fuyutsuki was a was naive to the extreme it wasn't even naivete as much as it was i believe in yui so god damn it i'll do this for her yeah you
Starting point is 01:56:18 shouldn't have that was a bad was bad but that's all it came down to is like you're a piece of shit yeah my and the two dudes on the computers yeah i forget their names i'm sorry guys doesn't matter it's my they were cool they're uh yeah that's it they didn't do nothing no they showed up to the office and they they worked on those computers god damn it that's guilty by association you know did their jobs and even went above and beyond when it was like hey sorry but i gotta leave this to you and it's like yeah no i know click click time to do some computer work loading up the fucking gun you know so um yeah no i i you know it was just all about believing in yui apparently it's a oba and makoto alba and makoto alba and makoto two dudes on the computers yeah alba maya
Starting point is 01:57:05 and makoto those those those that gang they're all right i remember having the discussion with my friend was just like oh yeah and it's kind of nuts how like at the end like everyone sees what they want to see and it's like no no do you not remember uh i think of like the long haired one of the two just being like oh my god get away short hair guy with the glasses no no it's not it's not and not the short hair guy with the glasses sees uh mesato because okay he's because he loves mesato yeah and he's and that's why he's like it'll be an honor to do it for you as long as long as the long hair guy that's just like get the fuck away from me like he did not see what he wanted to see so you can throw that theory right out the window you know i really feel like those
Starting point is 01:57:45 three despite being side minor characters like very minor like that we couldn't even remember their names because of their position as being like near on bystanders who just do their job and seem really nice they're used for the emotional hook on that whole sequence of course the the mine is the worst dude it sucks dude the worst part of of uh akira is watching tetsuo's girlfriend just get popped for nothing yeah and you're like what did she she did nothing she just was there you know um in in in gurin ligan rete and ilac are fucking awesome and they're just like oh yeah those tech people in the background you you fucking you know personality they're they're a sticker i mean i feel like i feel like rete she's you see her with the smoke sure but like
Starting point is 01:58:36 and woolly the character could have just been that that single jpeg could have been it's had one line and people would be making art of them forever because established from the design alone yeah yeah but but there's always an affection for these background people that like they show up they do the job what are you gonna say about them you know and then maybe they do something surprising in a really tense moment where they're like don't worry i got this and you're like oh fuck good old reliable back character i didn't give you enough credit yeah you know that feels good every time a show does it you know it's really stupid because this is an old meme image of like pushing past the main characters and the waifu characters to the weird background gremlin and
Starting point is 01:59:16 going that's my favorite character but you ever feel better than other people when your favorite character isn't the main character i do when your favorite character is like a background or minor character that's almost always the case for me yeah you're like i'm better than you because i don't like the main character the main character was designed for me to like them i like the one in the back i don't make the pick for a hipster pick choice it just happens to always work out that way like people ask me hey pat what's your favorite uh demon slayer character i bet it's not this one i'm like no it is that one it isn't it so then it's just cool i like him he's a bitch like i don't know i feel like i pay it i like i like the other thing that a lot of the time is not
Starting point is 02:00:02 because i feel it's the same reason why it's the same logic that goes into why i picked my my characters in in video games you know and like the choices i make behind behind my favorite characters in video games a lot of the time is like yeah it's a little less it's a little it's it's further off than like the Ryu yeah and most of the times i'm not i'm not down with the Ryu just because i'm a little bit more bored of that yeah that's all you know all right well that's it for my week did we finish off your week as well you said say so cool it's time for news but i now i have to be the one who to use the bathroom in the meantime let's take a word from our sponsors this week castle super beast is sponsored by
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Starting point is 02:02:45 light kit when you visit arcsmile.com and use promo code super beast thanks arc thank you uh yeah so some stuff happened what happened man what happened oh man okay i know you were yawning but in addition to the yaw you're you had a weird voice there yeah whenever i yaw i get a weird disney voice it's fucking stupid you became pl for a little bit that's good no man that's fun you just use it work it all right so did you see that arnie trailer i did it's fine why does everyone keep asking me if i saw that i'm asking you because right now we're doing a podcast no no no not you i'm just like everybody last night when i was streaming was like oh my god you see the arnie trailer trailer it's like yes it's arnold it's terminator and
Starting point is 02:03:40 fucking more combat games bad what do you want for me what the fuck are you talking about you want to elaborate on your thoughts yeah mk11's bad and feels bad to play okay well you're bad and you feel bad to play i do um so the terminator to 800 is in mk11 uh they announced this a while ago but they i know and they also announced that they have his likeness not his voice it's weird it's a little weird but uh checking out the trailer here we can see a little bit of his moves the teleport suits you a lot the tell he treats you a lot and he does the really cool terminator teleport yeah which should be the most exciting thing he does quite frankly like um shoutouts to the fatality but woolly how is he able to do that teleport with his clothes on
Starting point is 02:04:31 because father time can't tell because it doesn't know yeah he should get naked after that he should be naked anyway you know what quite frankly um uh uh uh if you look at the terminator tv show starring uh the girl from dollhouse as that other terminator it already stopped making sense because the terminator head itself like went back in time oh wow but we already knew that you have to cover it in you have to be a flesh to go back in time you can't be a robot so that the terminator continuity already blew its own wall i think the only flesh can time travel might be the most ridiculous plot convenience ever because like it has so many logical problems as soon as you do anything different and yet here we are because it's the basis of why the first
Starting point is 02:05:30 story exists at all so sauerkraut or chronicles they manage to send not flesh back in time oh that's crazy so the idea of clothing coming back in time is uh much less less of a leap but the fatality has him sending you to the future where you get shot up by the uh the terminators do the t-800s doing the walk through the the future yeah war zone and uh i was like oh that's fun other thing is it clearly looks like it's not going to be a tournament variation but there's some sort of interaction in the game where his flesh burns off and he becomes the exoskeleton yeah and it appears to have armor appears to be unstoppable like a robot like a robot so uh yeah don't know what that's about i'm guessing it's going to be a bit
Starting point is 02:06:19 like devora's bug transformation where it's like that's not that's not a tournament variation at all but when she's about to die she can turn into a little bug and fly around and in this case i guess it's like that type of thing um so there's that bit of news and then alongside that came the other mk 11 update which is uh the third variations being included now for uh for tournament play oh there's like this is the real character button well um mk 10 had three variations per character yeah this had two uh when it came down to but it also had the ability to swap them around right yeah but the ones you swap around were not tournament legal okay they included a lot of like kind of nonsense moves and unbalanced stuff yeah um and what was kind of dumb is that one
Starting point is 02:07:14 obviously you have less choices uh here but two the stuff like shang sung's cool ninja we're all non-tournament legal exactly that's like come on so this does fix that by adding one that's all teleporting ninjas yeah transformation ninjas and um adds a couple of uh extra variation options that like other characters can use you know and stuff so um gearis has his his time rewind now and uh uh uh uh codle has his like power and blood totems yeah so yeah that's it's nice to sort of have these the three that you kind of you know the choices that you kind of used to have without needing to do a move by move customization thing i really the thing i don't like the most is about the way they've approached like the stuff in this game has been
Starting point is 02:08:08 the fact that you are sort of stuck making um you're stuck with these like two modes of play and if you just buy the game and pop it in and go to training mode you don't have training variations there yeah you have to create them yourself there's a whole that's dumb it's a there's a branch of two worlds mkx totally did it fine it's weird they went backwards on that it really is and it's because they wanted to have a mode where like casual players can put on equipment and feel good about leveling up their characters and equip their moves as they want but then they but then that goes against the tournament side of things and whatever and it's like you can absolutely find compromises on this by like there's a couple of ways to address it yeah right one way that could
Starting point is 02:08:51 have been interesting uh i brought up was the way chaos codes does it which is um you pick your character and then you get a list of like five extra moves and you pick two of them yeah and then it's like what are the which of these moves do you like you get those moves now you know it's not a full-on variation but it's like a little bit of extra right whereas here you have a giant list of moves and um most of them are just unseen unused yeah that's that seems like a waste of money an effort and there's always going to be that character that you like and they have that one move that you love that doesn't exist in any real fashion that you're not allowed to use yeah that's terrible yeah so i think i have no problem with like you know like that level of light and quick
Starting point is 02:09:41 customization where you can do it very fast at the character select screen so you pick Ryu and then you pick uh whether you want donkey kick or dungeon yeah you know and then you just kind of go from like that you can just keep it simple like that you know um anyway uh so that uh that dropped and then of course one thing that was really cool that i personally enjoyed is the fact that codle now has his tick throw back so he can do the one two into on your knees like he used to or as at the moment he couldn't and that sucked so codle might be back we'll see gonna get up out of that chair i'll be right back codle wheelie wheelie legs no feely con he'll do it after all um so here's one it's a bad game that i it's not but there are things they can do better it can be
Starting point is 02:10:41 improved like the feel the story and the the mechanics as a fighting game it's got some cool stuff and it's got some stuff that needs improvement i'm torn because i like what feels bad for example is the way the reversal mechanics work i think everything about the way the game feels it feels bad but the reason why i like nine and ten is because at least the stories were fun and i didn't enjoy the story in 11 at all so i'm left with nothing okay because the because there's also the part where like on a very basic level mortal combat has a feel to it that's different from other fighting games so stiff um and this compared to the last one is slower you know but at the same time there's like it's you can say that if you were playing it and kind of using you if you the
Starting point is 02:11:29 flow of play was a lot of run button based stuff but if you're just talking about like just touching it for a couple matches and then that's it i don't like the punch when i hit punch yeah sure that's that's why the game is bad okay i don't like it okay are you done i'm done for now all right moving on all right um huge huge shout outs and congratulations to the great black otaku himself brennan williams one brennan williams slash dmab the fuck yeah this dude this boy coming all the way out from football to the performance center from the shogun of the row to sitting down the sultan of sit yeah and now he's the man with the voice the gift of gab
Starting point is 02:12:32 he is the raw announcer uh congratulations that's a big up congratulations that's a big up so happy so cool right alongside jerry lawlor and that other guy who i don't know who that is yep jerry lawlor's there it's so fucking cool it's so fucking cool that like he found this yeah and like he has arrived and he's he's got a major spot yeah and that's a big fucking spot that's a huge spot and the first thing he's doing with the spot is wearing his yoshi kagekira tie yeah making osw review references explaining to jerry lawlor what larping in a parking lot means he's doing it all perfect he's doing it he's getting all of it in there and anyone on the outside here that knows about all that dumb geek shit it's like i can't believe that guy's getting that
Starting point is 02:13:32 dumb geek shit onto the fucking my tv screen with the wrestling in front of all of america this even the america that hates it brennan has taken the strongest firmest step that is no not sam roberts that's a different has taken the firmest most definitive step towards the general populace realizing that wrestling is just anime yeah by being there and showing off all this dumb weeb geek shit right next to the dumb carney shit yeah it will become very clear one day that wrestling is just anime for carneys that's all it is someone who makes decisions made the rightest possible decision by getting brennan on the mic and having him call every week with the biggest show so um i'm like everyone is just fucking over the moon for this
Starting point is 02:14:36 and it's like yeah like we're all waiting to see like okay what's gonna happen how's this gonna play out like he's doing nxt shows he's got a few matches here and there he's trying out some gimmicks he's doing some bits what's gonna land you know what's the audience into sitting they love sitting all right let's do that for a bit let's see what happens there you know and and one thing that's always been clear is that like they've been aware of the fact that one they're like besides they always mentioned he came from the nfl and then the second thing is like he's got a twitter following he's got people online that know him you know and like from the moment he showed up and then it's just like yo he's on up up down down of course he's on up up down down of course he
Starting point is 02:15:16 is the fuck you're gonna do not have you know what i mean like he knows this shit he's there so like it's just a matter of time because there's no way that anyone who is paying attention i don't think i don't know vince himself is probably not there but anyone who's working for them that's paying attention is like you know this guy has a lot of people behind him it's got heat man and we gotta do something with that i use that heat we'd be stupid not to what's the source of his heat that weird shit that he's talking about the the the pillows how much does how much does he know about them he knows a lot about the pillows okay just jerry know anything about the pillows no great okay what are we doing here are you trying to sell we're gonna sell official what are the what are
Starting point is 02:15:55 they dacker mackers all right dacker mackers you gotta get one with uh go to get a rock you want a sena one get see if we can get some officially official merch but that'll be like the big stuff sena pillows right yeah same thing perfect totally same thing yeah yeah yeah wait what pose do you want sena what the what the fuck is this yeah oh it's the it's the it's this it's you can't see me except why are you leaning yeah why are you lying slightly over why are you why are you doing john sena's pose but you're leaning way too far no john sena just stands up straight why don't you what do you do with your other head what is this yeah 100 percent it's great it's great fuck yeah hell yeah i just want to see a conversation on yes yes of like a brendan
Starting point is 02:16:48 talking to fucking john and just be like hey man the you can't see me think it's great it's great i just like hey what if what if you just just held it right and then you just and you just grab him by the shoulders and you just you tilt just a little bit over there perfect amazing yeah and john's like yeah that's cool man yeah i was a marine all right you got one of those moments where like someone's in the ring and then the heel shows up on the ramp and then they start talking shit to each other and then like walking down the ramp and it's like oh and it looks like it looks like he's saying oh you're approaching me oh that's so that's so fucking dumb well he can't beat him up without getting closer that's easy to work in actually that's wrestling
Starting point is 02:17:43 dialogue then come as close as you like yeah that's what i think they're saying anyway i can't order the microphones are you just got to do it in the Seth Killian way yeah where like their gestures are speaking yeah you know that's all you got to do oh man and daniel bryant says oh well come as close as you like yeah that's all you got to do i'm i'm super excited can somebody inform me when brendan busts out like wow that's a that was a real sneaky surprise attack at the start of the second match yeah yeah or whatever whatever and you know what you don't have to ask because what i was about to say my sentence that before that was i cannot wait for the now endless stream of clips yeah the super clip from week to week every single monday about what did brendan
Starting point is 02:18:36 get in there this time that's good what did he get in this time you know it's gonna be great and people and at the best is not only the the shockwave of us catching it and and like fucking retweeting and everything but it's all the rest of the confused people going what i what what's a voltron what is he talking about what yeah yeah the general motors make that robot i don't understand rider kick what like like on your motorcycle is that a like a like a bug this is one of those hipster things uh yeah yeah yeah let's do it let's do it i feel like there's night's just got a whole lot more exciting there's a long path from like it's anime dad to haha yeah you don't know what i'm talking about like just like
Starting point is 02:19:31 where that just like indignation about your hobby becomes power like the the same level of confusion you're like nobody understands what i'm talking about to nobody understands what i'm talking about right right nakamura comes out and he just starts speaking japanese yeah he just starts doing japanese kind of commentary uh anyway um so that's good stuff uh yay to our boy um um fucking took my name dude yeah that's weird he took my name i don't understand why he did that that's weird why you do that i love my last name yeah i don't like my first name yeah but i like my last name yeah it's a pretty cool last name i feel the opposite my last name's okay i like my first name a lot there you go so um yeah i think i think it's i think we both think the same thing
Starting point is 02:20:28 we're just like the hard sounds come across they come off the roll off the tongue better yeah and the weird o's don't yeah o's suck a's are awesome i got two o's in my last name see this was there you go so um yeah yeah yeah anyway so we have a unsubstantiated rumor i love those which i hate bringing to the podcast and yes it has to do with smash oh yeah because they get to laugh at it either way or the person is apparently somewhat credible yeah and in this case it appears the source was credible because they were uh connected to how we found out about the elden ring in the first place got it apparently combat mechanics have leaked from the same person yay who told the details
Starting point is 02:21:21 about uh georgia r martin's involvement with from soft what do we got we have a little bullet point list of a deleted reddit post oh that makes it spicier i love it uh from one user uh that x hanzo uh the source of prior leaks apparently saying that most of the combat is built on the foundation of souls shocker the powers you get from bosses are integrated to combos like the prosthetics and securo but for all weapons okay it makes sense mega man and zero should get a power up yeah good uh some of those can also be used in open world to open new paths like celda okay fp bar like it uh like is used and is part of the new burn mechanic uh using power using these powers burns your arms until they become ashes your arms can also be cut by enemies
Starting point is 02:22:26 if burned to a certain degree you can use the mechanical arms as a weaker replacement that sounds so specific that like who and why would you make that up it will be disproved instantly upon one gameplay trailer your arms can burn away with the burn mechanic okay you can use replacement weaker arms all right and the ashes will be your old arms all right limbs are dropped by enemies but only some can be used as a replacement for your arm oh oh so arms are just a equipment most of the others are rotten or already burned they can be offered to covenants okay are any of them going to be your wife they're all going to be your wife you know resting at specific altars fully recovers your arms you didn't think that sentence was going to end
Starting point is 02:23:22 that way did you oh man you didn't think that sentence resting at specific altars will what was it recover has a phrase will fully recover your arms that's fucking weird hey man we're in a post dmc five secular world robot arms it's the year robot arms hell yeah specific skills like crouch swim dive power stance dash crafting herbs meet magic dual wheel parry deflect climb environment hiding faith drain roll super armor high jump awareness knowledge specific parry and deflect uh-huh dual wield power stance skill trees with different paths uh-huh skills attributed dependent on your starting class obtain some skills during game during the game depending on your build by using skill points
Starting point is 02:24:17 arms are a new mechanic obviously there's a hand command all right what does that do you have to sheath your weapon to use the hand command oh yeah sure and then grab and launch opponents interrupters levelers rocks relievers rocks push rocks inspect walls manually push blocks using both the joysticks and the grab command okay so it's it's a physics ract it's a physics grab okay it's like okuyasu this is really goofy really weird and goofy and it's hilarious to imagine george rr martin being involved yes the hand command yes of course the burning of the arm oh yes your arm replacement prosthetic arms which let's be real jamie lannister yeah you know george rr martin also is on the train for replacement arms yeah sure no indication of
Starting point is 02:25:14 what you can or can't grab or push uh by that i mean no text when you stand in front of a lever to activate it okay so the the interaction will use your eyes be based on your ability to see things oh crap that's bad that's bad that's going to be very bad that's going to be very stream frustrating for everyone oh yeah push that block it's right there why didn't you notice it it's right there fuck yeah get ready for that i'm ready no i'm not anyway rumors but so precise and bizarre in their nature that they have to be real it bears discussion yeah that sounds cool i want to see it i want to play it give me if finding the door out of the room is a puzzle oh man we're in for it sounds like it's synthesis of every game i talked about today
Starting point is 02:26:10 reminds me of trespasser get out i will not all right i will in fact talk more about stay in and get trespasser out stick your hand out put it on the weapon close your palms now you're holding the weapon now stare at your tit she's got a life tattoo there's a life bar that's good yep but unlike Jurassic Park trespasser this character has two arms yep i'm not or never forget when my brother was playing it and made a lewd motion and i was like oh my god i can't believe you did that you did a lewd thing you really you what you really you were like i can't believe it yeah because jesus world like a million years ago did you see the rage origins i did not okay well i asked my brother about the rage origin story and he's like i don't
Starting point is 02:27:11 know that i think you got some of it wrong oh and so i was like what the fuck did i get wrong i told the story of the big angry black man who was big and he's black and he's angry yeah from africa and he's like no no no there's a full backstory it's based on the previous trauma in his life apparently and i'm like what the fuck is this man talking about right now apparently rage has previous trauma was this george lucas and he yeah yeah so anyway i told him that i co-opted that shit yeah it's mine now it's you can't do that but okay but anyway um that was that was funny uh yeah so elden ring hold your hand out and use your other hand burn it to put the the ring on
Starting point is 02:28:02 i don't know man we still have no precious little about that game if i can do a kyo kusanagi i'll be happy i want to be able to pick up an enemy and throw them that sounds cool and that's what i thought i was reading yeah yeet the boss off the cliff speaking of yeet speaking of sean laden got yeeted himself out of si e he was like i need to eat more in the fields well i want to wear t-shirts that aren't brands of old games so i'm gonna go somewhere else so i can wear different branded t-shirts so there he goes goodbye sean laden you will be missed i guess your t-shirts will be missed i suppose vibrant i feel bad that i yelled at you for being a businessman but you are he became less of a businessman towards the end he did and that's
Starting point is 02:28:59 why he had to leave but the businessman aura was smoldering the first time he appeared i eagerly await the next awkward sony mascot human if there's a kanji for business it would be emanating off of him in the panel as he walks on stage salary salary salary salary salary salary there it goes look at that salary salary salary there's also sony talking about how on february 21st last of his part two comes out good so there's a date glad to know that the playstation 4 essentially ends on february 21st according to sony you think you think so i think it does i disagree i think you're crazy no here's why why guilty gear 2020 guilty gear came out on the ps3 after and ps4 it came out on both but yeah it probably will also yeah ps4 ps5 is probably coming
Starting point is 02:30:09 out holiday our people are people cool on the last of us too did i miss did i miss the part where people were not excited for the last of us fine last of us was very good yeah this will probably be very good yeah yeah i'm surprised that people sound cool on it well anyway um then you got your big old collectors editions and now that's sitting with the guitar and they showed off in the trailer that uh joel gonna be tagging along joel's old what they showed off in the trailer joel be tagging along oh old joel yeah but he's old joel yeah and it has it has the potential for so i don't think this game needs to exist and i don't think so either but has it just been too long no i just don't think it needed to exist at all once i finish the last of us i'm like good i'm
Starting point is 02:31:00 done i agree but now that we know joel is going to tag along it does allow for the potential of the one other thing that i'd want to see which is the continuation of that conversation from the very end of the game in which she goes that's bullshit and the fallout from that that is fascinating to me it's bullshit blazing it is bullshit and it is blazing you think joel can smell the game um uh shout out to mom on twitter for pointing at uh that uh yeah heli is so smelly that they the dogs will be able to track her through her smell her stink lines that would not that wasn't the one oh that one okay i was talking about the one where it's like the look of people in first
Starting point is 02:32:01 class as you walk by them on the plane and it's just the box art that's been like i know why i know why marketing purposes want boxes like that and i know that they test super well in movies so i get but it just sucks that we can't get really cool compositions in a more like complex manner well well a box arts have gotten worse recently do you know why that is because all the many of the people who care don't even buy the boxes anymore well there's that there's that but i haven't bought a physical regain since like 2009 i bought a big old sam show snk box collectors the last couple of boxes i have bought have all been collectors you're crazy look at this wall of games you got here that's too many it is astral shade i got physical because i just happened to
Starting point is 02:32:56 be in japan oh well yeah i mean so um but yeah i i guess um like i i think it's when you look at cases it's it feels extra bad when you look at cases like death stranding where you've got redis and the little the little machine next to him yeah for a big old movie poster yeah or you've got gorgeous compositional art yeah oh what do you think about the the the urine colored dual shock that says death stranding on it i'm not it looks like it's it's it's a dual shock filled with piss i don't i don't need it sure yeah i'm good you don't want your pissy dual shot pretty sure the worst part about that thing is on the in the art they show the baby floating inside of it but the baby's not floating inside of it in the real one there's a baby floating
Starting point is 02:33:50 inside of it i'd be like yeah yeah okay but it's not i would much rather like a like gray silver or like kind of like a dark simple tone controller with just like the logo yeah well you know or like the logo of um the organization uh you get piss what's the fucking organization bridges bridges right a nice bridges logo no on that on that piss for you on that center point for me piss for everyone one thing that that hideo is amazing at is getting sick ass graphic design yeah his internal groups yeah right from day one those logos have all killed it and i dare i say they're the most iconic i can think of in terms of like every game he's touched has had a takeaway like team logo of some kind or group logo in that way foxhound um
Starting point is 02:34:49 you know what two didn't have nothing i was about to say take it back two didn't have nothing oh well but then three had a great one i'll shut up you've already you've blown you've blown your point fine but militaires on frontier is also great and that the fox logo is amazing and it is what about the zoff logo i'm down with it are you yeah it sucks it's fine e boo diamond dogs e boo diamond dogs what oh diamond dogs is a shitty logo tell me about dead cells really great logo tell me about do you like the nerve logo yeah it's great yeah it's like it's harkening to that sort of feeling i love it i love a good team logo where it's fucking very patchable yeah you can make a patch out of it on your jacket hell yeah future you know calories
Starting point is 02:35:43 the sons of liberty uh didn't have as much of oh my god they totally did have a logo no but they didn't have us it didn't stand out as much as the well it was it was the don't tread on me slightly altered yeah it was it was there but no one we don't talk about we had no one brings it up like it's not funny flag you know everyone brings up the other stuff that we talked about yeah but it did it did exist if you think about the big shell was a graphic design logo there you go anyway so uh that's coming uh we got pretty dope game popping up on steam it's a jet set radio like thought i'd just let the people know about it a clip of this neon tail it's yeah looks cool yeah you know and uh
Starting point is 02:36:35 not much to say besides like you see the stuff you see the the skating and the tricks and the the the drifting or rather grinding i should say um that's all same yeah not sure how much like spray painting you'll do if any but a lot of like really crazy jumping off of rooftops and uh tricking out with uh fancy ass futuristic skate tricks and stuff so yeah jet set radio vibes if you're down with all of that good shit like i am uh check out neon tail uh by rocket juice games which is dropping an early access which tail is that neon no no i mean like like a like a tail or like a story t a i l okay and it's like the thing at the end of a dog like the thing at the end of a dog that's a tail and that's dropping on the fourth so uh what's really nice and what i like
Starting point is 02:37:36 is when you see her skating around like just on a plane surface you can skate backwards like stylishly the way uh people you know that one person that girl at the roller rink that knows how to fucking crush it there you can do that stuff that's a fucking character type at this oh yeah the girl who knows how to do that backwards thing at the roller rink and everybody staring has their mouths agape like wow we're too scared to say hi uh this morning crack a dawn that's early in the morning for you people who don't know what that is like me i saw a big ass thing that says mario and luigi developer files for bankruptcy and i double took and then immediately went fuck you headline writers you know exactly what you're
Starting point is 02:38:33 doing why are you being so shitty so you know the worst thing is i saw that headline and i immediately knew what they were actually talking about yeah it took a second and i was like fuck that sucks it does it does games are all so it's the creators of the mario the actual story is that alpha dream is is filing for bankruptcy and shutting down and that sucks but just i just want to preface this with when you're writing a story and you're any and you can make a juicier lie by implying something that's not true that's a shitty thing to do well they do you follow a twitter account called saved you a click video games uh yeah i know that i know that you follow it uh i don't know if i do but i definitely know it's super good it's super good
Starting point is 02:39:29 because it's just screenshots of this new update in this game has everyone talking they added they added a multiplayer mode or i am following it now or click here to find out or like this this is a good one that we might actually talk about a bit yeah gearbox and sag aftra have responded to troi bakers recent comments about why i didn't do it god what a good twitter and then it's gearbox says they couldn't refuse union actors and then sag aftra says they're liars pokemon sword and shield producer has something to say about the national dex drama says game spot he says they prioritize new gameplay ideas over the national dex that cut pokemon from future games like every time it's
Starting point is 02:40:17 like it's a specific type of title that is just like fuck you just stop i refuse to click you out of spite i would rather know nothing and and if you're in the business of of being an editor and this is within your ear shot it is your job to make sure that those titles continue i mean i say that without irony it is actually their job yeah yeah well i was gonna say that like i would love to know like if you can if there's actually like is there just hard data that says if you tell people what's happening in the title no one clicks on it is it just you know it's just that simple right well they yeah think about the onion of course it is of course it is yeah how often you actually need to read the of course never no it's it's a dumb rhetorical question to
Starting point is 02:41:03 even ask yeah but but yet still like like we use the term clickbait right and clickbait bait sometimes gets used for like things you just don't want to hear or like bad yeah in a lot of cases it's just like we use it when we're talking about like oh you said something antagonistic hoping that people yeah there's two types of clickbait and be angry there's right but that is using it in like this this is actual baiting you to click because we're not telling you what the hey there's a secret in this box if you look at the box something about pokemon sword and shields literally the word something yeah what is it you won't know unless you know it's nothing like this is literal clickbait so there's two there's that and then there's the one that i think is best summed
Starting point is 02:41:53 up as we paid a freelancer to say the thing you like is dog shit because google and facebook ate the entire internet ad market and in this duopoly duopoly the the only way to make any money is by harvesting hate clicks good shit shout outs to uh was that onion or i have no idea who the honey onion or hard drive on that one right and it's dead on clickhole yeah and it's because it's always a freelancer they always pay somebody who isn't on staff to say that something is dog shit so that they can take the heat yeah and then they go oh it's a freelancer it's not part of the editor yeah we didn't we that's not us um for sure for sure for sure for sure i we i really like that stuff is and of course it works because it's it's it's it's incendiary yeah people are gonna
Starting point is 02:42:36 come out and say what they say about it but like this little thing over here where it's like no so the it's this is not this is a piece of relevant news it's not a dumb opinion yeah it's not an uninformed opinion it's a piece of relevant news but you're you're you're you know and so let's let's not forget the actual thing we're talking about is way more important of course because the mario and luigi rpg superstar saga rpg series is incredible uh alpha dream i filed for bankruptcy in tokyo on october 1st um from 1991 until now those games are all incredible bowser's inside story in particular is amazing they kept them going in fact there's four of them isn't there i believe there are yeah i don't i don't so they the fact that nintendo like quadrupled down on it means
Starting point is 02:43:20 like they were doing something right up until they was a bunch of if i remember correctly it was a bunch of square employees that worked on super mario rpg that then went to work for alpha dream and then ended up working for nintendo so it's that's a fucking huge bummer yeah basically says ever since uh 2014 they've been struggling so you know i guess the inside story is not bowser's inside story will continue to exist but that company won't will it the game will yeah the game but like i'm not saying that i thought you meant like that franchise no no i mean literally that game yes yes it will not be lost time people have made sure of that also uh goodbye to uh some cool ass sprites yeah you know i think superstar syga uh also is like
Starting point is 02:44:16 it's no rpg replacement it's no you know square art mario rpg replacement but it certainly scratched yeah the itch i'm just thinking what is the guy who makes super mario brothers dbz going to do for sprites now that there won't be new characters made by alpha dream that he can rip well thankfully there's a hell of a lot of deviant art custom sprite rippers out there that can modify and oc do not steal to your i guess i guess anyway rip alpha dream you did go work out dream mario and louis g developer files for bankruptcy just stop just stop because like the the the initial reaction is just like that's not true like i you know like you you just like you know they didn't oh the other one okay like it doesn't make me go nintendo's bank no it doesn't make me do
Starting point is 02:45:16 that it goes now that's not true you'll never believe what the guys say this week cops hate it on the podcast it's crazy okay that's actually accurate you won't believe it we say a lot of stupid shit on the podcast the only way to find out is to download it and listen that is true you'll never guess you won't woolly you're joking but like you won't get ready to spend the rest of the week picking your chop off woolly there is a literal guessing game that everyone plays every single week with the podcast title going how did a conversation occur that these words were appropriate to be set is it up worthy is our conversation up worthy it is up worthy holy fuck man you have to pay attention at one hour and ten minutes you must do what they say you have to
Starting point is 02:46:08 here comes the most important part hate taxes listen to the super best friend that's how it's the wrong podcast the castle super beast cast for a good tip about getting out of your taxes you get to watch and listen to the podcast hey pay your taxes that's the tip one weird trick one weird trick cops hate it yeah if you pay your taxes they can't take it you yeah i like i can't believe that like after all this time someone found out that like ads in particular there's a lot of things they can show you that'll get you to click or not click or whatever the case is yeah but the stuff that a lot of news sites seem to be running now is the fake article um the fake article banner uh where there's like like five or six different stories
Starting point is 02:46:58 and the photos are always they're all stock photos they're but they're gross or like normal things from gross angles right so you think you're seeing something really weird and then you're actually just seeing like a nose with a giant pimple on it yeah right or or like you see like it look like is that a pile of diarrhea and it's like no it's just peanuts yeah right and it'll just be like eat this for a healthier diet you know what and it's like and they find these really weird what the fuck moment photos and it's you know you have to stop in your tracks as i as i've been engaging in the advertising game more recently i am shocked that more people have not discovered the power of ironic flagella self-flagellatory advertising so i i did a stream that was sponsored
Starting point is 02:47:53 by uh the stygian publisher one c interactive i believe and part of the deal for that is put a banner at the bottom of your twitch page so if people click on it goes to the steam page so they can buy it right and they're like write a little ad copy yourself for it you know what i fucking wrote or buy game do it do not ask questions merely consume product then get excited for new product hashtag sponsor you put that in the like info description on your twitch page yeah okay and above it was just buy game do it and for surge it was increase my influence for the big bucks well you see and i send those out to the publisher and they go yeah it's cool do it you well you see you have the benefit of people being able to hear your tone when you write that yeah i
Starting point is 02:48:44 guess think about someone who you don't know writing those words out underneath their stream i don't know dude do you remember did you ever see the invention of lying no but i know i heard about it so the invention of lying i heard how good it is is pretty good but my favorite part is there's a coke ad there's a coke cola ad in the middle of the film and it's a guy in a white background and he drinks a coke and he drinks it goes yeah it's coke it's pretty good you you know what coke is oh you should go have a coke yeah so and i'm like yeah you know what now i want to cope yeah so you know uh no name brand the yellow brand company that sells at like cosco and yeah a couple other places or whatever uh uh they have started advertising in movie theaters
Starting point is 02:49:29 and it's just everyone in yellow and it says no name on the wall and they're just like we sell a lot of products like this one um and this one yeah and then another guy comes in and goes we also have these two yeah these are our products and it's like that's that's they're good that's what you know buy them or that computer guy who's selling you computer tips and he's just like please buy my product yeah it teaches you about computers i think you will appreciate and enjoy it if you purchase it thank you very much for your time it's like okay thanks yeah um anyway no man you gotta see gross nose hairs up close oh yeah and think that you're staring at barf but then it turns out on site it's like you prepare to get grossed out and then
Starting point is 02:50:15 it's not gross that's the important part you know what the worst part about that is you know what the worst part about that is i clicked on that i wanted to be grossed out now i'm disappointed right your product's not going to make that disappointment go away well it doesn't matter because it's three stories in one giant banner that they're all they're all they're all the same hyperlink yeah right they're all the same fucking link but it's just none of them are individual stories and one of them is like a stack of cash and someone's face going wow and the other one is like someone's bikini line and then the other one is yeah like a fucking uh a pile of peanuts that looks like diarrhea you know it's just it's the weirdest dumbest thing but guess what when you
Starting point is 02:50:55 have to run algorithms on human eyes all day to see what people click on you're gonna eventually hit a winner yeah eventually fucking ding ding you'll never believe what spider man did in this issue he caught the bad guy see he webbed him up in this issue an x-man will die he did he died no one important but yeah it was that we it was like hey i'm jimmy x-man or hey jimmy x-man you look fragile he's like don't worry about it it was a yellow shirt it's like anybody who knew about the x-man comics when they watched that fox kids start to like and i'm morph and you're like oh man yeah uh anyway so speaking of old nintendo games yeah from the the ds era uh brain age is coming back cool i liked brain age yeah until i stopped
Starting point is 02:51:49 caring about it yeah like everybody who picked up a nintendo lifestyle health product yeah it's this is like i don't feel appreciably smarter no into the garbage with you it's it's a fat until you're done with it yeah that's how the nintendo health things go whether it's a we fit board or a finger clicker or a or a the the thing that look yeah the you know the one that the fucking blood thing that's not a blood thing that they never actually made i'm sorry there was a nintendo you know when they take your blood vitality sensor yeah okay because there's a wild difference between a blood pressure like reader and the blood thing that nintendo was making you know the blood thing but it wasn't real blood prior to nintendo making it the only time i had ever seen those was to
Starting point is 02:52:40 clip on your fingers while the nurse was doing your triage it's a pulse track it's a triage machine my brain associates that shit with being at a fucking clinic getting your health checked i'm sorry it's the blood machine if nintendo welcome to nintendo's blood machine you know if they put a fucking arm blood pressure pump on you and then you have to play video games while your arm is being squeezed to see your heart rate i fucking hate blood pressure machines i love them really they feel good really i love it they cause uh anxiety attacks in me oh my god no i love the squeeze and the release feels good well i have i have cardiophobia which is stupid is a fear of your own circulatory yeah i remember you mentioned so if i feel my heartbeat i start to freak out and
Starting point is 02:53:24 i develop what i now know is known as white coat hypertension uh-huh which is your blood pressure spikes at the doctor's office so it's not accurate so they got to take it like three four five times until you calm down like a fucking maniac yeah yeah and they're like oh your blood pressure is fine calm down like i don't like it no i have the squeeze and release feels like almost like someone ralphing you for a bit you know it's good pardon ralphing it's a type of massage where it's really aggressive like hard ass massage you mean petrissage i don't know what that is okay but i know it's basically like hard squeeze massages okay you know i like i like i'm gonna use the real word you're gonna use the made-up word then let's turn to google shall we
Starting point is 02:54:12 how do you spell ralphing what did you say petrissage yeah petrissage you do petra you do effleurage then you do petrissage uh-huh okay what is ralphing hands-on physical manipulation physical manipulation session sometimes called the recipe the recipe never heard of that one so like a or t i don't think it's that oh god computer stop it fuck you you know what i'm doing this on my phone doing it on these computers yeah don't look up random shit on the on the thing they can see they'll see all your porn it wasn't there first of all first of all it was on the other screen see all of your porn second of all it's all incognito they can't know they can't know they can't know they can't if it's incognito they'll never
Starting point is 02:55:03 know that's what yeah how do you spell that r-o-l-f-i-n-g ralphing now what was yours petrissage okay how do you spell that p-e-t-r-i-s-s-a-g-e ralphing Montreal what the hell petrissage massage movements with applied pressure which are deep and compressed underlying muscle okay ralphing deep tissue the ralphing association in Canada okay this feels like a joke okay you're talking about deep tissue massage yeah i'm talking about real real hard hard squeeze stuff that's more than just deep tissue i've done a deep tissue massage before yeah felt pretty good i could go a little bit harder okay ralphing the benefits of ralphing ralphing how have i never heard of that ralphing fucks you up bro ralphing fucks you up and this is art and it's like yeah this is this is a version
Starting point is 02:56:02 of arty or gua sha or something or what gua sha what is that it's a it's a fucking uh it's a chinese uh fucking massage modality that's a lot about scraping ah okay well yeah it's uh it's pretty intense and it's it's about getting all those knots and crinks and shit whatever um this i think used to be called like trigger point massage back in the day back before it became its own fucking discipline then it's basically like it hurts in the moment it happens and then it doesn't hurt after that it feels relief yeah that sounds a lot like trigger point massage okay just fucking jam your elbow in there until it stops hurting well congratulations we both arrived at different but correct conclusions alternatively could be similar to nemo or nemo petrissage
Starting point is 02:56:53 look there's a new york times article called ralphing excruciatingly helpful there you go i learned something new today so did i i'm sorry if i was sassy i'm not damn i wasn't sassy so you're not sorry that i was sassy so i will continue to be sassy great thank you so um brain age is back that's cool i'd rather have a game that teach me about like ralphing about ralphing or cupping cupping yeah now i've heard of cupping yeah you've heard of cupping now why are you talking about cupping well it's another massage thing well maybe sometimes and also every time i think of cupping do you know what i think of i think about the guy and the protector that gets fucking need into
Starting point is 02:57:44 hell from tony jaw okay that's not the cupping i'm thinking what kind of cupping you're thinking of willy the verb that applies to what you do with your hands to things oh you mean uh depotment you're just saying words now you're just saying words now no to stop to potments the hacking and the cupping and the the beating stop it enough with you god what jesus christ anyway you want to talk about reflexology it's bullshit no i don't your meridian lines are really tight and you're fucking metatarsals i started i started i started shitting on i started shitting on chiropractors and uh men was like what no what are you talking about that's fine that's a thing yeah it's a thing and i was like i don't know man i saw like a big i saw like a
Starting point is 02:58:41 huge episode about like how much it's not super proven in any way and he's like yeah well my uncle runs the business so shut up so here's here's like oh no here's the thing with chiropractors it's not a scientific endeavor it is a it is a like theoretical practical thing so of course it's not going to stand up to a lot of scrutiny and the main fear about chiropractors is that when they do a rotary break which is when they twist your neck uh it's it's risky it's part of the diversified palmer stuff but uh if they do it too hard which a lot of them do do fucking snap your arteries 100% and you you can die or you can get you know coma you know it's a fucking horrible shit i caught an episode of uh bullshit way back in the day
Starting point is 02:59:29 was kind of tell her about that specifically and um if you have a herniated disc or something like that and they just start pushing and prodding on and they don't know what they're doing they can make your herniated disc way the fuck worse so i have way worse uh i haven't i'm not up to date with the latest uh but i will say that from what i recall years ago it was one of those things that like let's look into all these pseudoscience sounding practice things yeah and then they're like in conclusion like there's all these businesses out there and like yeah you can sell homeopathic things with like the water that touched this thing or whatever the fuck right but homeopathy is fucking hilarious but but the i'm not even going there i was just gonna say
Starting point is 03:00:17 there's the two where they were like okay hypnosis and acupuncture we don't know why they fucking work but they do well i can tell you why so based on the results that's pretty real i can tell you we don't get it i can tell you because i do keep up to date with this stuff okay uh hypnosis and acupuncture work for two very similar reasons in fact it's the same similar reason please don't say placebo it's placebo acupuncture was thought to beat placebo and turns out those uh studies from the 70s were done wrong and when the studies were redone it does not beat placebo acupuncture is placebo it's placebo yes a significant amount of chiropractic is also placebo however most of the medical professionals that i've talked to will tell
Starting point is 03:01:12 you basically wow i think the one uh my sister's doctor told her i don't know about chiro's some of them are good and will help you but because the the profession is not actually scientific yeah the bad ones will kill you okay right like yes yes yes yes yes yes but there's absolutely a chiro that could probably help you with a crick in your back or or back thing but if a bad one can totally kill you okay but here's the but and that's that's that's uh so acupuncture sure now but isn't hypnosis by nature placebo yes but it's like they're selling you placebo yes it's canned and packaged and people who are extra susceptible to placebo are going to probably work really well with hypnosis therefore hypnosis is real because placebo being real in that case so the most confusing
Starting point is 03:02:02 thing about placebo is the placebo is real yes even though it's fake if it's fake and it works it's real but at ant hypnosis is openly about using effectively the placebo effect to help you yeah therefore that makes it really but it only works on some people but and it is but and it is placebo yeah like i am that's hilarious so the way that hypnosis breaks down is that you have about 10 percent of the population which is denoted as a highly suggestible yeah high high suggestibility includes vivid imagination and and stuff like that so there's a very famous woman back in i think it was the 60s who could not have who says this topic upsets him who could not have painkillers during her sorry birth and it was going to be an up it was going to be a bad uh uh
Starting point is 03:02:59 birth uh like very difficult very long so in advance they discovered that she was highly hypnotizable and were able to uh cause her to go into a hypnotic state in which she would sing and she was a talented singer and there is a really fucked video of her giving birth while singing it oh i know that video yeah i know that video and no pain because she's not there she's not there that's 10 percent of people could about yes the other 10 percent of people are people like me who don't have vivid imaginations and when you talk to them and they go imagine this and they go but it's not right you're gonna get nowhere there's like nothing and everybody else falls somewhere yeah along the middle level 99 level 99 hypnosis you get to the next level in
Starting point is 03:03:50 the future we create the new term placebo agist yeah placebo you will be a placebo agist and you're you're like i'm here to sell you bullshit yeah and you'll believe it and you will believe it yes your own mind got that panel from jojo slaps it on the right there this is what we do did i ever and you're like okay come into this room here hold these balls hold these objects play this music what's going on i don't know there's some people there's some monks on the roof praying for you right now yeah so that's something i want to talk about but in terms of you're like i feel do you feel better i do feel better wait let me turn the volume up yeah in terms of bullshit plays in terms of chiropractic and and men's uncle i'm sure he does a good job right a bad chiropractor can kill
Starting point is 03:04:39 you or make you worse an average chiropractor you'll feel probably better because you'll get placebo and then somebody'll you know push on your back a little bit you'll feel better and a really talented one might be able to help you with some issues i remember a decent piece of advice that i remember hearing from uh because i watch a lot of this stuff on youtube was that if you walk in to a chiropractor's office and they tell you that they can give you weight loss increase your focus cure all of your headaches fix your back make you taller increase your sex drive etc fucking turn around and leave you sure bro because these magnets are pretty powerful right but if you walk in and they go your back seems a little fucked up i think we can stretch you out a bit
Starting point is 03:05:23 and take pressure off your your back maybe that's okay if they're highly reviewed and no one has been murdered by them yeah listen um assuming men's family hasn't murdered anybody in chiropractic context yeah um then yay but that's the thing about that one in particular that i always was coming at heart because i saw videos of like them snapping kids necks and i just fucking every time i see it there's an australian guy it's terrifying there's an australian guy that i used to watch that he killed his whole youtube channel because uh he uh there was a baby with colic that he performed an adjustment and people went nuts and i don't even blame them for going nuts because it looks real fucking bad and i'm like i don't know man that seems really bad
Starting point is 03:06:20 right fuck that seems really bad i mean maybe the fact that their bones are more rubbery at that age makes it a little bit easier but i don't i oh stop don't do it and just because you believe in someone else that you know because it's yeah anyway whatever whatever you know it's it's really fascinating if you watch enough of that documentation that you see two things you see guys that are pulling x-rays out doing uh you know an hour of examination you're seeing like asking about your whole medical history and then you see the guy who's like all right come on in sits you down and goes good you're great you're good and you're like i don't think that guy's a real doctor is your baby supposed to crack should it be making that noise it's a new body yeah the most important
Starting point is 03:07:21 thing that you would learn out of all this is that there's nothing wrong with cracking your own joints don't snap the baby yeah don't snap the baby that's a that's a good i love popping my knuckles in my neck man it's the best i recently well recently like two years ago learned how to pop my upper back but i can't get my toes so shout outs to the mortal combat movie the first one yeah because excellent use of chiropractic technique on kano well i don't know if you remember but there's that one scene where this random martial artist jumps out and he fights sub-zero yeah and uh he gets frozen and killed but before he gets frozen and killed like an idiot uh he does this cool cat a thing yeah and then he stretches inward and then turns his muscles and goes outward and goes
Starting point is 03:08:10 and that's like a big intimidating pose and i was like that looks like it feels really good yeah it feels like it's and then ever since then i've been kind of doing that and i'm leaning against the doorframe and like you really get the insides when you lean at both arms against the doorframe and it feels really good um thanks mortal combat anyway don't snap the baby don't crick the toddler don't do it um but only go to a chiropractor that your trusted doctor recommends to you yeah sure because they would know and your chiropractor is not your doctor yeah it's another important distinction to me uh man i think also aromatherapy uh acupuncture reflexology um uh homeopathy all that it's all nonsense it's all placebo the truth is
Starting point is 03:09:04 placebo you know the worst part is when you tell people these things placebo and they go aw it's possible that you have actually negatively impacted their health yeah by taking a real placebo effect away from them yes which is why placebo yeah will embrace the fact that your belief is your power yeah and fully try to find the right way to fill your mind and all i'm saying is the antispirals hate these magnets until it works until it works we'll try shit until it works an office full of nonsense and and creative you know whatever mumbo jumbo we've got 80 vials of different flavors of water aka michael jordan's secret stuff you know what the craziest thing about homeopathy is you know that it's about diluting things to cure you so the idea is that you take the thing that
Starting point is 03:09:57 would poison you dilute it by a hundred times and then use that and that'll cure you like a vaccine did you know that the more diluted it is the stronger it is why is that because it's reversed and it's more potent so let's say you were to buy a dilution of arsenic or whatever the fuck on the internet that had been diluted 10 000 times in water at which point it is doubtful a single molecule of the original substance remains it will retain that memory and that memory will be 10 000 times stronger as a cure because of the memory of the water the water memory yes let's ignore the obvious water memory of shit and piss going by this logic listen man i tried to go into this conversation avoiding the word reiki but you're making it difficult not to but i'm putting
Starting point is 03:11:07 up a hard wall and saying we're not going to get into reiki or crystals we're not doing it that's a hard wall you like that part an astral chain where somebody tried to sell you crystals so there yeah oh no you passed it then oh well it's somebody in union square they're trying to sell you crystals they're like hey man when you're trying to find jenna anderson fuck that you go to talk to me it's like well i haven't seen jenna anderson but i do have something that can help and you're like what these crystals yeah if you and you're like fuck that goddamn s link in p5 where she actually helps you with her bullshit i've got a i've got an extended family member that like relative of a relative kind of thing that uh she's an old lady and every time you talk to her
Starting point is 03:11:54 she's on a new ideology tarot numerology yeah etc yeah you just you've made up your mind that you want your life to be a certain way and like it's going whatever fits those puzzle pieces doesn't have to be factual yeah but you're gonna keep searching for the puzzle piece you know that is that's the forever chuny chuny chuny in bio yeah fucking anime ass yeah 12 year old yeah i need my whole life to be that they said the real world isn't good enough i need magic you just you just you just you know you disregard facts and you acquire currency uh you you you just you do whatever it takes to fit in and yeah everyone's got that aunt you know everyone's got that family member yeah i've got a cousin uh uh that definitely shows up at at the the family dinners and
Starting point is 03:12:55 like literally and unironically has the facebook posts that say wake up sheeple nice unironic use of wake up sheeple wake up man yeah what are you doing so what are you doing you know i i he was he was a bit bummed when i informed him that like sometimes facebook will follow up your posts yeah with a snopes post automatically just so you know you know oh man i just i just remember my favorite thing about homeopathy it's like well you're making fun of homeopathy it's like the same thing as vaccines and then you go shut up shut up the immune system in the water uh anyway just shut your fucking mouth all right let's all right i said it i didn't want to say it but there you go chakras i i recently knew a a fan of the show that got
Starting point is 03:13:51 fucking chicken pox as an adult uh in their 20s that sucks man that's not good and i did not know this this is this is dumb i did not know there was a chicken pox vaccine and the reason i did not know this isn't that isn't doesn't that one of those isn't that one of those diseases that becomes something else when you get it as an adult no it's two things so uh just to finish i didn't know there was a chicken pox vaccine because a year or two before i was supposed to get it i got chicken pox got chicken pox was like three and a half so fuck me shingles if you get it the second time as an adult or as an old person it becomes shingles yeah and then you're no my grandfather had shingles i thought it was lethal no you wish it was fucking lethal
Starting point is 03:14:43 it's chicken pox for weeks and weeks and weeks and it sucks ass i i i learned through someone no no no no i think my mom might have told me that like yeah chicken pox as an adult is is something else and it's way way worse it's it can be dangerous if you're really old because you're weak and your immune system might suck ass but it mainly just hurts like fuck and lasts forever okay and will leave horrible scars okay if you get it the first time as an adult so it is so i don't know if you're familiar with this but chicken pox is super herpes so it's forever which and and and you know like that and herpes is also just fucking cold sores yeah herpes is just the location and time yeah changes the name it's
Starting point is 03:15:32 identical to uh it's identical chicken pox it's a little more common how old were you when you got it and what part of your body yeah did your aunt kiss you at the fucking funeral yeah and then you got it okay were you an adult and yeah you know i never got enough data on what this is or isn't but yeah chicken pox is a form of super herpes that is your entire body and it's usually for some reason weak enough that when you beat it you fucking kick its shit in and it will never recur until which is why they say like oh he got it give bring your kid over yeah and that's where you get all the kids sick yeah um but also you should probably shouldn't do that um it's it's a pretty common practice yeah but you probably shouldn't do that you should probably just get
Starting point is 03:16:13 your kid fucking vaccinated so they don't get in the first place because it sucks because shingles is when your body gets shitty enough that it no longer stops fighting it back all the time and all of a sudden your body erupts in sores all over and it's bad okay so it's not lethal no but okay it just sucks you don't want it yeah and you can give it to other people yeah yeah assuming they don't have chicken pox or because like well or are inoculated did you ever get chicken pox uh no okay so i have chicken pox inside me right now oh yeah wow because it's forever okay it's literally forever right um i can't give you chicken pox because it's lying deep inside my nervous system so i would probably have to like slice myself open and and drag my basal
Starting point is 03:16:59 root ganglia on your basal root ganglia which i don't think is likely but if i you know 20 years from now got shingles yeah stay the fuck away from me okay yeah see i got vaccinated i oh then you're fine yeah um some people are saying it can be lethal but yeah if woolly a lot can be lethal when you're old you ever get the flu i've gotten the flu flu kills tons of people every year oh yeah because they're old and shitty for sure and they're weak yeah it's their time it's their time because they're weak well anyway the flu weeds out the chaff what if i increase my chakra what if you increase your chakra can i you may be able to be sending waves push the shingles out listen let the let the you let the healing in push the shingles out i don't know if you know this but
Starting point is 03:17:54 people who live on islands now we live on an island have the healing power of that island and can send that energy outwards to friends and family even over the phone regardless of distance all you have to do is close your eyes and go i am sending you a healing light and then you have to have the other person imagine a white healing light washing over them can i sway my hands can sway your hands a little bit and then pull it all into a ball of men yes and then shoot it out and yell hadoken you can and then you hit you good word use i noticed yeah yeah and then when it hits you you now have the worst form of shingles all over your body and that's why the announcer says ko that's right uh before we leave this topic i do want to ask did i ever talk to you
Starting point is 03:18:43 on this program or on video about the definitive effects of the power of prayer uh i remember there was a study that said that the placebo effect worked even in that context so it does but there's an interesting twist to that so they ran an experiment in which they had yeah people going in for major heart surgery yeah and they said listen you guys you're the control group just going for your heart surgery yeah you guys we're gonna have st mary's congregation of fucking whatever over two towns over pray for the safe recovery of your blah blah blah and then you have group number three which is hey we got people praying for the other guys but not for you yeah results came back the highest death uh the death amount during surgery and the highest
Starting point is 03:19:38 amount of people that had longer recoveries are from the group that was prayed for and told for it oh sorry the third group was they were prayed for but not told not told yeah right and it turns out that telling people going in for major surgery that people are praying for them tends to freak them the fuck out and makes them think that they're going to die which affects their likelihood of death so if you are going to send somebody that your prayers for any particular bad situation do so in private and do not tell them because you may kill them so i know about this story and i remember hearing about like these crazy upsetting results but the important thing about those results are based on the fact that like the people who you are praying for in that context
Starting point is 03:20:27 are not people that are familiar with and normalized to prayer these are people no it's a random selection that are like what what shouldn't be the reaction there as opposed to the people who are like yeah if it was not me on this table i would be praying for the other individual well i'm sure some of those people were so if you're in on it then you're in on it and if you're not but it's weird and it on average yes pray privately for people's health so that you don't accidentally kill them evil placebo's well if they're not if they're non-believers to begin with yeah you know then yeah you literally don't know what you're messing with anyway we can uh let's see biology is real willy he saw oxalo i did see axel he's chasing a little
Starting point is 03:21:12 butterfly i thought that was gonna be angi-meato yeah they fucked with you i i called angi-meato before the trailer started i saw the butterfly everyone went oh and i went oh well he was right oh it's gonna be angi-meato and then they fucking just hold off i'll take that when i was like man uh it's gorgeous but i was bummed because i'm like now they're gonna announce all the existing cast as new announcements and you're gonna be like oh and i wish they instead would alternate between new and old yeah and by old and new and by new i mean we haven't seen them in excerpt right so we got to see more of may and the dolphin is wearing uh the dolphin has a little thing on it in that one shot but then there's the other dolphins and then there's the killer whales there's all kinds
Starting point is 03:21:53 of shamu's coming out she's got multiple animals it's great um but no the fact that uh angi-meato or justice or uh testament or abba and i miss testament testments read or zappa have not been seen i can't wait many year i can't wait to see what they look like i hope they come back because they should be showing them off in the way that street fighter five grabbed a bunch of the people that didn't make it into four and prioritized them right make sense yeah you want to get a roster going you get a roster of people that got missed out last time you know birdie karen yeah armica you know you that that's the right way to play it so uh more details coming soon that's great still looks gorgeous what are you gonna say and uh lastly this is interesting i'm very curious to
Starting point is 03:22:48 see how this plays out overwatch coming to the switch soon yeah uh today some details popped up including blizzard saying that you can detach the joy con and use it to aim like a laser pointer oh cool while playing overwatch that'd be interesting sounds very interesting especially for someone with horrible aims such as myself it's true my aiming is decrepit at best it's true i've seen it so um i would like to see what this means in in the uh in the gameplay yes if i can actually just point and shoot as opposed to needing to stick it everyone has good accuracy i thought uh i thought there were there you were going to be like and nintendo's announcing a touch your hero's vibration mode where you can touch the overwatch cast no this is not snk or the vita yes
Starting point is 03:23:46 overwatch mon peace but yeah um i i i'm wondering if it's going to be a mode where everyone has amazing aim well some people will have amazing aim or like a port rather where people yeah yeah because it feels like that's a way just point like it feels like that's yeah the quickest way to have the best aim right is just point at the screen your arm doesn't get tired your arm doesn't get tired though i develop wrist problems playing my trod prime three although here's the thing of the the the the pointer is gyro based right it's oh it's not ir you're right oh it's gonna suck ass so it's not actually going to be pointing at the screen it's going to be like a
Starting point is 03:24:31 ball sucking because the because the joycons don't have that tech it's going to be like when you have wet balls you put against the dry surface and you pull the balls off it was that's going to make that noise that's gonna be that that version it's not a remote yeah but the gyro is pretty good yeah that's true it is pretty good uh okay gives me life to look down into the chat and just see ew stop yeah you got a mail yeah hey hey hey you want to send us an email send it to castle super beast mail gmail.com castle super beast mail gmail.com well what do we got for mail this week comrade dog says hey comrade howdy honk lords and goose pocalypse i love it honk honk conrad dog here a long time fan and listener your discussion about old weeb versus new weeb got
Starting point is 03:25:32 my roommate and me talking about how we got into anime and manga in the first place i got turned in to turned on to the original transformers cartoon of super young when our local video store had rented out their copies of the show my parents went to the next best thing robotech how about you what was your first steps into ninja weebs and why uh i saw a techno man on fox buffalo on my the old tv my parents kicked me into my room so i only got antenna antenna stations and the only one that came in through the show cartoons was fox buffalo and on saturday mornings or whatever sunday mornings they would show tech i'm sorry techno man which was techaman blade and i was like this is awesome uh when i was growing up my my brother and
Starting point is 03:26:17 cousins were obsessed with saber riders and the star sheriffs yeah uh i didn't know obviously the distinction between what was happening at the time however uh later on you know they're like before the like dragon ball tv dubs and such uh i saw uh ghost in the shell like i saw i saw trailer for akira i saw i saw ghost in the shell and i saw um robotech art print and like i remember my friend had like photocopies of an art book of the veritech suits and i was like just staring at them going this is the coolest thing i've ever seen i'm gonna become an artist and i had a had a duetang with them yeah and oh that's a trapper keeper for you for americans and then eventually uh yeah i watched like ninja scroll or something like that and i was like oh yeah manga entertainment
Starting point is 03:27:16 right salt japan animation oh japan animation oh those good old days that's 90 shit early 90 this is from japan manga entertainment that's right manga uh we got one coming in from um slumber says hello blackface boys international llc no i'm not not north american division canadian regional office must be uh the wrong uh address it's your boy the man behind the mirror and the other day i was watching the internet historians latest episode very serious business where they covered pr mishaps and marketing campaigns gone awry thanks to the antics of shitposting netizens and my chuckling my shortling memes burgers and setting up condom delivery services in a microtown named batman i realized that i never really cared
Starting point is 03:28:12 or heard any campaigns like these other than things related to the sphere of video games like torok baby my question is what are some of your favorite ridiculous marketing campaigns bonus points with the if with the internet grabbed it and ran with it uh making things worse can't wait to hear about it i don't have one that the internet ran with but i do remember my uh two favorite horrible ads ever one is the wendy's commercial in which they describe different kinds of people who like to go eat at wendy's in which they describe the memer which is the mclovin kid stop it which he goes eating a double chicken sandwich like a boss and like text comes up at the bottom impact font and it's bad and the my favorite favorite favorite stupid fuck ad ever
Starting point is 03:29:03 i mean that's pretty recent is a mcdonald's banner billboard ad of like a 20-something guy with like bushy hair looking at the new uh new big mac going i'd hit it yeah and he's like looking at it like yeah and it's just like did they just take out a fucking billboard of a guy saying he's gonna fuck that hamburger yeah because it really looks like they did yeah and wasn't there that black and white psp one with the blood with the white girl stomping down on the black girl well they had three ads one was them clint like like about to hit each other one was the black girl like choking out the white girl and the other was the white girl like about to back hand the black girl you're right but the one that got sent
Starting point is 03:29:53 internationally was the white girl yeah no but um uh i would say like if anything's more so the reaction as opposed to the campaign i remember when uh aqua teen hunger force made those little light bright fucking boards and they put them around the lunarians or whatever they're called yeah the little galaga the whatever the galaga things and they put them on these boards around the city there's a boston i think and then fucking people freaked the one person freaked out one person freaked out and yelled 911 called the cops and then they sent in bomb disposal squads shut down the entire like city area to deal with these light brights for sell for aqua teen hunger force um and if you know about to rock baby then obviously you
Starting point is 03:30:40 know about blood vertigo yes you know but you've listened to our podcast and so on and so forth so we don't need to retread old ground there um oh man um taco bell had the uh uh if the sputnik crashes into this beacon everyone gets a free taco you know what somebody in our chat just reminded me of one that is canadian so a lot of people are gonna go i wonder what commercial they're talking about oh yeah and they're gonna go look it up yeah that's the that's the best one it is the folgers incest christmas commercial now the the watching order is important you need to find the original and make sure it's the original yeah because there's there's before you watch the college humor version yeah but it is um a young man comes home to christmas and his sister misses
Starting point is 03:31:34 him and they're gonna bond over folgers coffee and it is just overpowering incest vibes it is so uncomfortable it's but it's it's like but it's it's how do you for it it's dojin vibes in america in canada in canada yeah in in a fully western sitcom context it's just blasting the incest juice the onis onis sign it's fucking outrageous because she's he's like oh i didn't i forgot to get you a present and she takes like a bow and places on his chest and goes you're my present and then they both like haha and then the mom and dad come downstairs and they're like and they look like they got caught the best part wake it up i remember showing every person i've ever showed it to my fucking your sister is every person i've ever showed it to which is usually
Starting point is 03:32:34 americans right yeah and i go okay what do you think of this commercial and they go is that a fucking incest commercial yeah every time it's crazy so there's no worry that like we're salting the earth or like we're we're prepping everybody everybody sees it everybody sees it they all know it's the best part of waking up all right gotta get this gotta get woke up bang your sister god plays a hockey with the boys excuse me is incest in your cup there it is yeah um you don't want it in your cup where else uh dylan want to run away from this conversation hey willow and pat rat feels bad when developers make games easier especially if i put some effort into it do you feel the same way about guilty
Starting point is 03:33:24 gear 2020 and the simplification of jobs in ff 14 nope am i the asshole not wanting my games to be dumbed down for the average muck thanks dylan dylan you're getting it all wrong i think we don't know because the game's not out yet well i specifically one of the one of the games he mentions is one that i'm familiar with yeah but again like uh i believe that if they're doing the right thing then it's not what you should be worried about it's not the dumbing down because you're not lowering the ceiling yeah uh so much as you're finding a way to raise the floor raise the floor slash bring up a staircase for people or an escalator so let me let me where you can still play it at a really skillful level uh but it's not like making it so that like
Starting point is 03:34:12 you're taking that level away so that it simplifies play so i want to i want to use two examples here one is the game he mentioned he used ff 14 as an example i would help if he had written does he write in a class in there no okay uh and also destiny um destiny had this thing where there were these really hard grindy uh things that you would do for like an entire month and if you did amazing you'd be able to get what's called a pinnacle weapon and some of these pinnacle weapons were fucking busted they they were broken as good and they were meta as fuck and if you brought them into pvp you would crush ass with them um and in the recent expansion they just put out they're like we're not doing pinnacle weapons anymore and we nerfed all the ones you already had
Starting point is 03:34:54 and we made them because they're not meta anymore we made them much easier to acquire and a lot of people are upset because hey man come on that's that's i i i worked my ass off for that and that emotion can also be a thing of like i worked my ass off to figure the stupid fuck dragoon uh uh what was it the fucking uh uh 2.5 rotation with all the bullshit and i got really good at it how come now they're they made it easier so other ah whatever okay like as long as they're the the the the worry you should have is not that they make it easier the worry is if they remove depth because those are not the same thing mechanical complexity execution complexity etc are not synonymous necessarily with depth right so uh for example the class i play in 14
Starting point is 03:35:48 they made a few things a little simpler but they mainly just made upkeep and like just making the thing work less annoying so it's easier but it's just easier because some things are more convenient um when people when people make usually games that are renowned for their complexity or difficulty very often get dumbed down into garbage sorry very infrequently get actually dumbed down right uh i think a really good example of a game that succeeded dramatically from its dumbing down was mass effect do you ever play mass effect 2 never played mass effect 2 so you played 1 and you remember there was a complicated inventory and mod system for the guns yes and there were a lot of skills you could use and all that and in 2 a lot of that got kind
Starting point is 03:36:38 of junked but then they made the shooting way better so it's better mm-hmm and then 3 they they went a little bit more on the shooting and i know you can miss some of the rpg elements but to the most people it just played more fun it was just better um do i hate when games get easier just to appeal to a casual audience or whatever yeah there are some games that have totally happened i think uh ghost recon and rainbow six had a bunch of releases that worked like hard dumbed down for the average consumer and part of the reason c just so popular is because it's mean and hard as fuck but you've seen the stuff you do and see usually you shoot through walls and you fucking jump through windows you're like yeah i'm trying to think of a franchise
Starting point is 03:37:29 where they just 180 on the systems because there's always games like like say like mega man legends or things where they like initially there's a thing that's a little bit rough around the edges and then the second time around they smooth it out and sometimes they abandon core principles like fuck it this was turn-based but it doesn't need to be right yeah other times you go the parasite eave route where you really change things up a lot but um in the cases of the examples he gave though or at least in case of guilty gear i don't think that fear is grounded like that's well that's not there is one example that you and i are very familiar with and it was dmc they did dumb the game down and they did make it much easier from three to four no from
Starting point is 03:38:16 three to dmc from three to sorry from four to dmc from four to dmc right yeah and it was a fucking bummer it sucked and i don't think there's anything that anyone could say that would convince me otherwise than it sucked because that is the actual reality of that fear however that fear is often irrational or knee jerk dmc totally got dumbed out mm-hmm and it was dramatically easier like it was much yeah dodge button yeah um two dodge buttons mmo's have an issue in that uh particularly game like 14 in which they rebalance the classes every time there's an expansion comes out i like the way my class was before now it's different i don't like it there was an element of my class that i liked that wasn't part of a core identity or whatever so they just got rid of it
Starting point is 03:39:05 but that was the part that i liked you know um so a really good example is that the dark night class in the last expansion was the class that i played pretty universally disliked though the way that they made it work that time so they changed it into one that is pretty universally liked it's a lot more like the the one from the expansion before it it's more fun it's more flashy but there are people that started playing that class one year ago who go but this is the class that i like i really like having to hit tons and tons of buttons super fast and when they made it so that you don't have to hit nearly as many buttons because that was closer to what it originally was they're like no but that's why i like the class you just made it dumb and easy to play it's like
Starting point is 03:39:53 well no it used to be like this and there are different mechanics that you have to take care of you know it's like it's tough it's a it's a fucking sliding scale yeah uh but yeah you know it's it's it's always good developers will not lower the ceiling and uh you can even have that's the case here you can even have simpler mechanics that still have a lot of depth oh god yes so a perfect example for that is in akatsuki blitzkampf there's the character fritz who does one hit or two hit combos at most yeah and he's all about footsies and he's a samurai showdown character in a anime hyper ass anime game all right and boy see the boxer no he's the old man with the sword okay and he just does these little movements
Starting point is 03:40:45 all of his special moves are positioning all they do is make him dash different distances or dive different distances okay and then he's just got these one hit or two hit slashes and you have to just fucking position and play footsies it's incredible and it's mechanically simple and it's just as competitive as the characters who are doing insane zoning teleport filling the screen with nonsense uh uh uh specials or super complicated frame trapping combo machines you know style beasts and whatnot um yeah it definitely is one one one example that comes to mind i was playing it this weekend so that definitely is like oh fuck i love that yeah you can do that you can make uh you know and then almost in any genre really right then if you had astral chain astral chain
Starting point is 03:41:36 on its surface isn't actually that mechanically in depth like its mechanics are simple combo dodge sync attack yeah and like if you if your game is is properly embracing like different characters and styles of play in many cases like you should always have that like the game plan is simple the choices are based on your hard read hard reads style character yeah you know and in any given genre so uh cool and one final one here we'll take it real quickly from kurt he says hey kurt what up man uh pratt and wooller i owned my ps4 for four years now just found out i can listen to all game audio out of my controller via headset you ever feel stupid discovering something way too late in a product when you found the detail that made you dumb for not knowing it
Starting point is 03:42:28 i stream games so luckily that doesn't happen quite as often anymore because people catch me on it within an hour but before that oh yeah oh yeah lots of times oh yeah for sure definitely uh i mean i can't even think of one specific example i did not know about control a until two years ago control a yeah select all oh oh on pcs yeah i literally did not know about select all until two years yeah that's dumb yeah it is it's fucking dumb yeah yeah that's bad uh but the fucking years of photoshop and editing shit you have to learn these things so i uh didn't yeah like there's tons of like honestly what you see a lot of the time is me playing a game and then there will be something where everyone's like dude just do this and i was like oh wait what
Starting point is 03:43:23 and it's like oh that's a piece of information that i i was not made to think about at any point so i never did so this happens to me a lot when i take a look at games and it's like something that could have made your life easier if you just knew about it was this thing and or i internalized the way the game explained the thing differently so and then i just don't end up like yeah i don't know but i know i make the mistake a lot hey woolly you're a fan of super metroid right mm-hmm you know about 40 minutes in the super metroid you're locked in a room you mean reading or the manual or the tutorial talking over the tutorials yeah that's a that's a problem that's a bad thing and i honestly do want to do a lot better at that that's a real
Starting point is 03:44:06 problem that that exists with lp-ing um and i do have to say that like part of that as well as even when you're like stopping and you're reading things like i don't want to it's one thing to just say lp tax right but i guess like i'm trying to break down the exact thing that you're break like there's an extra process running in the background yeah when you're when you hit the button and you're recording and your video is going and everything you say is aware of the fact that this needs to be an entertaining video even in your silent moments you're still running the gears for what can come and i have so many moments of like thinking of a thing that i don't remember the name of that i go oh because i'm just not fast yeah it's
Starting point is 03:44:55 interesting because you that that seems to be your number one thing that i don't remember seems to be your number one like verbal like uh like i can't i can't pull into the front shit what's the name of that right i can't pull the thing to the forefront for me it's that the whole so the way that i do it is i start talking and i trust that my brain will catch up to the sentence by the end of the sentence but then when it doesn't catch up i end up saying nonsense yeah like complete garbage make no sense good bad word yeah you know um and and but in but in this instance it's like whatever in some instances like okay well the moment is clearly gone and this is not even worth it anymore who cares uh then it also almost
Starting point is 03:45:39 becomes like an ocd thing of like i can't well you gotta finish the thought the story of the thought otherwise what the fuck you're just gonna everyone's gonna be like what the fuck is he talking about but um no even in the efforts even in the moments where it's like okay stop don't like actually read what this thing is saying here and get it and it's like yes i'm reading out the text and i'm and of the description of what the thing is about but it's still not the same as if i were just sitting here alone by myself not like i it's just but it's hard to explain you know of course it's obvious for you it's not obvious for them it's and it never will be until the day until they do it and then they tweet at us and go oh man every time i appreciate those tweets but but it's
Starting point is 03:46:18 like i really have no other way to describe it than just like yeah when i'm only sitting here with a controller in my hand and the screen in front of me and nothing else matters in the world you are 1000 locked into the game you're playing and you're taking as much time as you want to do everything but there's just an extra process that's aware of the time that's checking the the recording there's a little and it just does enough damage to make you not internalize that explanation sometimes on the flip side to that and it sucks and it's not an excuse but it it's a fucking hard thing that i'm still trying to get good at all these years later and the flip side of that is the time that i on a perfect winter's day by myself was playing super metroid and i could
Starting point is 03:47:03 not beat the part where you get locked in a room and you're supposed to run to the end of the area and i could never make it in time because i didn't know the game had a run button yeah yeah you know so going in blind really is like a big fucking extra task to put on your your plate when you you know you probably would need it if you've done it before then all of this goes out the window but if you're going in blind it's it's definitely not and if you're going in blind and unfamiliar you know that's that's an extra thing too so it's not at all about this is not excuses this is not not shouldering the blame nah man this is big johns this is lp johns not even johns because it's fully admitting that i'm doing a stupid thing it's but but but but but it's to be
Starting point is 03:47:50 clear to the people going no but don't be you know it's to make it clear right to that is that you unzip your pants and dip your balls on their eyeballs yeah and you go mmm i'm sorry i missed that item it is it is not johns it is fully embracing that it's a war sh it's a fault that i'm actively and continually trying to improve on snorish but i'm having a really hard time you know what i've started to do because it feels really difficult for me you know what i've started to do you know it's really fun so when i was playing code vain uh everybody was screaming at me for like 20 minutes to go to the hot springs because they want to see the hot springs on the stream and so i just pretended that i didn't see it and then i had my character look at the hot springs
Starting point is 03:48:34 well i was talking about bullshit and i was like oh okay time to go to the other level and i started to fucking run away and i you get to you just do the what would you get one glance of just the inferno that is going off of just people like shitting their pants and you're like and then i went to the hot springs so they'd shut up christ be the goose man yeah no that's the feeling you need to cultivate oh i that does happen it's just my way of playing it out most of the time is going hey chat yeah i know hot springs got it we'll do just currently doing thing chill that's that's that's how that's the way it goes my brain but yeah you know
Starting point is 03:49:24 but in other cases it's like invisible wall hit the invisible wall how the fuck it's invisible you missed it oh no talk to the npc a fifth time talk to them a fifth time damn it you didn't loop the dial a fuck you know what i you know why i do because like i'm like because i'm streaming so it's a little easier but my favorite thing so page and i we banter quite a bit so we have a thing or if i'm wrong you you spam the chat with one if she's wrong you spam the chat with two and we discovered a new favorite which is my favorite which is number three is associated for the chat when the chat is wrong you spam three so you'll have you know that guy you know that guy who's like god talk to him again you'll unlock a thing right then you go talk to that guy
Starting point is 03:50:14 and nothing happens oh it wasn't yet it didn't trigger it wasn't oh it was a different guy oh no oh no every time every time every time one guy oh that one guy one guy i love that one guy but that one guy types a lot they're loud do all caps yeah this job is stupid all right let's get out of here hey woolly where people look at your videos woolly versus on twitch woolly versus on youtube woolly wools on twitter castle super beast on podcasts and woolly will figure it out on other podcasts okay hey if you uh mine aren't still angry as pet just go check that out on twitch and twitter and there's a youtube archive but it's it's an archive just go to the link from the twitch page all right that's it goodbye everybody
Starting point is 03:51:19 no uh next week we should tell them next week the church sunday uh same time won't fall yeah should we just come back now and tell them uh about the shirts shirts oh you just talked about sunday sunday okay yeah i told people already but yeah you should okay you you i know i know i've let you down i've been a fool to myself i thought that i could live for no one else but now through all the hurt and pain it's time for
Starting point is 03:52:50 me to respect the ones you love me more than anything so with sadness in my heart feel the best thing i could do is end it all and leave forever what's done is done it feels so bad but once was happy now is sad i'll never love again my world is ending i wish that i could turn back time because now the guilt is all mine can't live without the trust from those you love i know we can't forget the past you can't forget love and pride because of that it's killing me inside it all returns to nothing it all comes tumbling down tumbling down tumbling down it all returns to nothing i just keep letting me down letting me down letting me down
Starting point is 03:54:30 in my heart of hearts i know that i could never love again i lost everything everything everything that matters to me matters in this world i wish that i could turn back time because now the guilt is all mine can't live without the trust from those you love i know we can't forget the past you can't forget love and pride because of that it's killing me inside you it all returns to nothing it just keeps tumbling down tumbling down tumbling down it all returns to nothing i just keep letting me down letting me down letting me down
Starting point is 03:55:55 it all returns to nothing it just keeps tumbling down tumbling down tumbling down it all returns to nothing i just keep letting me down letting me down letting me down it all returns to nothing it just keeps tumbling down tumbling down tumbling down it all returns to nothing it just keeps letting me down letting me down letting me down it all returns to nothing it just keeps tumbling down tumbling down tumbling down let me down let me down let me down let me down let me down
Starting point is 03:58:26 let me down let me down

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