Castle Super Beast - CSB 042: Digital Sandcastles: Please Say Sike

Episode Date: November 7, 2019

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Ugh! Yo, yo. Well, what do you have up your sleeve? Why are you suddenly so confident you can beat Octopimp? What do I have up my sleeve? What do you have up your sleeve? Didn't he beat you twice already? Are you talking about Guilty Gear?
Starting point is 00:00:52 Yeah. Yeah, what? What? I don't have anything up my sleeve. So why are you so confident now? You're going to steal the man's soul, apparently. Oh no, I'm going to lose that. Yeah, I'm probably just going to lose.
Starting point is 00:01:07 I mean, he's got his main character in Guilty Gear 2020. I don't have my main. He's got, I mean, way more experience and hours. He's just an overall better player than me and he's already playing the game right now. I have no chance. What's up? What is happening? I'm telling you what's happening.
Starting point is 00:01:31 I'm telling you what's happening. He's super good. I like he's totally a fucking beast God at this game in general. And yeah, it's going to be a fucking blowout. Problem? I'm a little confused. Questions. I have, I have one question.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Yes. Then what is the nature of the soul stealing? Oh, well, that generally refers to when you steal someone's burst, when you grab someone's burst. It's, it's, it's a, it's a reference to like when you call someone out really, really hard in an anime game, you grab their burst. That's what it's taught. That's what it, that's what it means when you steal someone's soul.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Because this feels like, like a big call out followed by like, oh, I didn't call him out at all. Oh no, I totally called him out. Big call out tweet. Question. Problem. Concerns. What's up?
Starting point is 00:02:41 I'm concerned that I'm losing my mind. Okay. That's fair. This seems nonsensical to a degree I was not prepared for. You've been losing your mind for a while. All right. No problem. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:52 I don't, what's stressing you? What's. Nothing. All right. What's up? Is this not a very straightforward situation? No. I thought it was.
Starting point is 00:03:06 No. Okay. Usually, oh man, I'm going to get him so bad followed by, oh no, I'm going to die. Is a confusing series of events. Oh yeah. Well, I mean, I hope, I hope people are tuned in and get excited by all that. Okay. And I hope that call outs and.
Starting point is 00:03:25 It's like Mike Tyson saying he's going to eat your children before the fight. Oh yeah. I know. I knew he was going to win. Yeah. Oh yeah. Well, you know, again, I hope people are, are, are, get excited for all that shenanigans and tune in to, to watch it because that's me doing my job.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Okay. As, you know, they're being very nice and inviting me to come out and try their video game. And I would like people to take a look at that and see how that goes. And if checking out the video game also means they can doubly get entertained by watching me and OctoPimp continue our quote unquote feud. Then. Is this his work?
Starting point is 00:04:06 Is this feud of work? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Massive, massive work. Huge, huge. Now you're shooting with me right now. Absolutely. Oh, well now it makes more sense.
Starting point is 00:04:17 I didn't know that the fighting game community had work. Oh, it's a massive work. Oh. I thought it was all shoot. No, what the fuck are you talking about? This is shoot. Did. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Yeah. Duh. All right. So one of one's. Okay. The only thing that's not a work is, is the part where they legit did not tell me who I was fighting and they kept its secret for super long and I had no idea why and it was really weird.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Yeah. They were not telling me. Looks like OctoPimp also knew that he was doing it but also did not know who they had plans for. They had plans for someone and then it didn't work out. So they talked and whatever, there's this whole thing, but like, you know, like for a while Zot was just not telling me what was going on and I'm like, okay, I have no problem with this, but this is very unusual.
Starting point is 00:05:03 And then the moment his face showed up on that stream, I immediately understood. I'm like, it's because this fucker mastermind did the entire scenario and he wanted to have it completely in the dark until I sat on the stage and then he walked out, you know, which to be fair would have been incredible. People are super confused about what we're talking about. So I should give them some context, I suppose. Okay. The new Guilty Gear 2020 stream that aired last weekend showed off some gameplay and
Starting point is 00:05:39 then at the end of it on the American stream. They had Kizzy Kay, Zot Buster and Octo Pimp. And I, geez, forgetting your other gentleman's name, I'm sorry. And so they basically just announced that at Arc Revo, the game's going to be there. People are going to be able to touch it and play it and stuff and stare at it and stare at it and that the, yeah, and that I'm going to be there as well. They announced that I was going to show up and that I have an exhibition match to play and that's going to be against Octo Pimp.
Starting point is 00:06:14 And yeah, this is going to be the third and it's going to count for all the marbles, as they say, in a roster where he's... Your character isn't there and he's just got announced. And he's one of the best Kippa Tampkin players in the fucking world. Yeah, you know. So yeah, it's going to be a good time. I'm looking forward to it. Have you thought about cheating?
Starting point is 00:06:37 Yes. Okay. Do you have any ideas? Any ideas that might work? Not yet. Okay. None that won't be apparent on stream. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Could you find the Ghost of Marvel and pay him to show up and just be crazy? I'm not sure that the Ghost of Marvel is still alive. But he's the Ghost of Marvel. He's forever, man. Unfortunately, I think the Ghost of Marvel might just be a homeless gentleman from somewhere in the New York vicinity. Okay. So we don't really know what happened.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Wasn't that at Evo, though? It was at Evo. So how'd he get? I think he came to Evo. How'd he get to Vegas? I would imagine that he spent all of his money on a plane ticket to Evo. And that's how he became homeless, shirt off his back so that he could buy the plane ticket. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:07:36 The FGC has a lot of people and some of those people might be a little sick. They might be a little ill and you never know. So yeah, I can't tell you. But I'm not about to put them on my payroll if that's what you're suggesting. That seems like a bad idea. Who knows what's going to happen? Who knows? I do.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Yeah. Yeah. Why don't you just try really hard? Yeah. Yeah. Is it maybe because of the face you're making right now? What face? What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:08:18 It's an audio podcast. Like I'm at this point, I actively want there to be more cards stacked against me. Yeah. Because the fact that he literally was like sitting there as his character was announced and then announced me and then also in that order and then and then also previously like beasted me and also is currently there playing the game already. That just seemed that one seems particularly unfair actually. So I act at this point, I just want there to be more.
Starting point is 00:08:54 They should send you a dev kit. I want more. I want I want extra. I want there to be I want Dyskate to be like on his DMs, just taking suggestions for what he can do to pot. Hey, hey, do you want do you want Potemkin to have like this or like this? Mm hmm. Okay, we give them both.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Mm hmm. I want I want I want I want more more stacked against me, maybe even had me like a one of those. Somehow they retrofitted an old bad N64 controller with the guts of a PS4 controller and you got to use that. Use this and the sticks a little wiggly. So yeah, it's one of those like the the plastic black bad ones where it kind of wobbles to the side.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Yeah, one of those ones. That's what I want. You want prebuilt John's you want John's built in John's no John's because John's implies that John's this is this is that's inaccurate terminology. John's implies that if it were not for these circumstances, I would have won. Well, there is no part of this where that is a qualifier. I have I have a version of that that could work, which is like, well, you know, if you weren't so good at the game.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Yeah, but that's that's so that's that that's so I've been reading a lot of scrub quotes lately. Yeah, that's so broad. John's implies if we're not if it were not for these hurdles in my way, I totally would have beaten you. You don't know that is not even remote. But you can say that now because the bell can't be unwrung that he played the game before you.
Starting point is 00:10:31 So you just be like, well, you know, if you never got to. Yeah, but but that's not I'm not I'm not saying that his skill is an unfair I'm so baffled by the level of call out before followed by the level of non call out here. Oh, because it's it's it's don't get it. It's fun and exciting and everyone's going to enjoy that. So big, big call out tweets where no one's going to hear this. But people hear this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Listen to this podcast. Some do. This is a popular podcast. Yeah, some do. But some won't. Oh, you know. Do you guys like to listen to our podcast? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:14 So yeah, big I'm a beat his ass hardcore bookmark this tweet, I believe I said or screenshot it maybe or I said bookmark this tweet alongside the date of the of the event, which some people still unfortunately confused in making a couple of like meme photos, which hey, meme photos, right? So so first of all, hey, check it out, meme photos, fun little posts, all that jazz. Does that happen if I don't make a call out? No. No.
Starting point is 00:11:48 So good. But but then it says, but then one of them was like the match at Evo and I'm like, no, no, no, I'm feeling a lack of commitment to the to the to the to the work here. Well, you just asked is the first thing you asked. I know that down. So I'm just going to give you the honest truth. But isn't the isn't the isn't the work that you're supposed to lie and be like, oh, I got something up my sleeve.
Starting point is 00:12:11 And then you show up and you have nothing. On Twitter, I guess, OK, I will continue to I have. I will continue to push put forth extreme braggadocio. I'm going to point out that people can see both of these parts of social media simultaneously. Well, that's OK, OK. I'm not that complicated. I'm actually a very simple person. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Some might say too simple. But this is where we are. You know what? Based on the way that went down after I tweeted it, when I was like, OK, I need to formulate a really good response because they after that announcement, yeah, like, yeah, it went over. People loved it. Shit fucking went left and right and then everybody was, you know, finding their best clips of someone getting their ass absolutely blasted out, which some of which are unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:13:12 And then they've overlaid my face and then they've overlaid Octo's face like name or face on the blaster and I was the blasty. It's fantastic. But what if you win, though? Then this becomes fantastic, this becomes awesome. All of this preamble becomes wonderful, you know. But I mean, as far as just raw facts go, who fucking who can't see what's now I have more context for the world around me.
Starting point is 00:13:42 It's very it's, you know, I feel dumber than before, but smarter than I am. This is this is how it goes. OK. Well, what have you been up to, man? Well, I just got back from Calgary as Calgary Calgary was colder than Montreal. Of course it is. I didn't know that. Oh, oh, you didn't.
Starting point is 00:14:01 I've never been the prairies or the coldest cities in the country. I've never been there. They're the coldest cities in the country because the wind on the flatland. Yes, there's nothing to stop it, so it hits like minus 60. So we we had a had to got them Rockies around us. That was cool. Yeah, mountains are cool. Yeah, I was like, that's a nice horizon.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Yeah. I mean, the only I mean, there's there's there's a more interesting part of the country right over those rocks. Mm hmm. I I mean, I've only like I've been there once last when I went to Japan. I flew to Vancouver and like jumped from the airport immediately into the plane. So but like I've never actually touched down anywhere further
Starting point is 00:14:49 west than Toronto. Yeah. What's the cowboy hat situation? I didn't see any and I almost brought mine, but I decided not to. Also, I needed my luggage space because I was bringing a full set up, including a monitor. It's really. Yeah. So because the hair the problem is a whole monitor up because you can't trust
Starting point is 00:15:15 these hotel TVs. Yeah, you can. All right. There was an era early on where it was like, OK, you'll probably be able to get your HDMI in there. But who knows if you can get to a source button, right? And if you can't get to a source button and it's not auto set, that's going to be garbage. And then secondly, the lag is abysmal. Oh, it's not good.
Starting point is 00:15:38 It's awful, unplayable in many cases. So you don't know what you're dealing with. So most people at this point just bring a small monitor with them. You ever look into those like backpack combined TV things? That's exactly what I was looking into. Yeah. And I don't want I don't think I'm going to end up getting one of those because I still want my console like here.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Yeah. And I'm going to be using it all the time. I work with it. So, you know, switching it over to the portable thing is going to become a bit more annoying. And I don't want to full on extra carry on like suitcase. Yeah. So what they do have is monitors that are almost the exact size of a PS4 that sit right on top. OK. So I'm actually looking into one of those HDMI monitors. Yeah, full on HDMI monitor and maybe a little bit bigger,
Starting point is 00:16:29 like then, you know, the 13 inches or so. But like it sits nicely, don't have too much to worry about in terms of lag. Like there's a I've seen some some some people at tournaments like rocking those on like a bar top, you know what I mean? So yeah, I'm looking into that. But anyway, went to a Calgary for Canada Cup. Canada Cup was I mean, Canada Cup is is is it's a big tourney that usually goes down for the last couple of years.
Starting point is 00:16:59 It was in Toronto. I'm kind of shocked they moved it from to Calgary. They moved it back to Calgary because the first ones were there. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, the first ones, the first ones were where we're all over in Calgary, all in Calgary. There was a while where we were trying to like I was I remember when I was running a Montreal stuff, I was trying to get him a lap sheet to bring it over here.
Starting point is 00:17:19 The Tio guys wanted it in Tio. There's more people there. So, you know, yeah, it was never going to nothing's ever going to come here instead of Tio. Well, that's not true. DreamHack comes here. That's true. But anyway, the the so the they had it there for a couple of years.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Last year, they kind of combined with EGLX and that that like, unfortunately, there was some really shitty stuff done on behalf of EGLX. Like they just didn't understand what a fighting game tournament needed. And they were like trying to kick people out of the venue before like at like six o'clock or something like that. When you're like, these tournaments go late, these tournaments go till how do you not know about what you're working with? It was terrible, right?
Starting point is 00:18:02 So that sucked. But anyway, so yeah, back to Calgary. It went and yeah, I was going in particular for Samurai Showdown because it was going to be the last of the announced premiere tournaments. So the winner of that gets to go to Japan for the World Finals. Right. So, yeah, that, you know, is a pretty big incentive.
Starting point is 00:18:31 And I guess here's the part where I'll say since I'm going into my week, this is a lot of this is me going to a fighting game tournament. So I'm going to be talking about fighting games. And if that is boring to you, then I think you might want to skip forward. I'm going to do my best to not use any jargon and talking jargon post guy. But it's funny. It's funny when I see those, because that's that's a comic from a thing that a real that like that was just like a text dump before that.
Starting point is 00:18:59 But it's like ever since Fisticuffs, like ever since Fisticuffs, I've like consciously made an effort to not go into top those terms. I've consciously made an effort to try and keep it as general as possible. But I guess I was not at general. And I will say one thing, and that is you have had a natural built in disadvantage in that almost everybody that you know that likes video games around you in your personal life also likes fighting games to a degree.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Nobody likes the games I like. So I have a lot of experience explaining why I like my stupid baby RPG. I see. But that's not that's not really. I don't see it that way at all, though, because quite frankly, I think I kind of feel it's the other way around. Really? I feel now I feel a huge disadvantage in terms of the fact that the fan base that knows us that is coming from the same place.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Hello, everyone showed up for a survival horror and RPG. Oh, I don't know about that. That's like there's a lot to go. No, but the the the Matt and Pat fan base at its core was a lot of that. That's why Shitstorm is such a huge like deal to a lot of people. I don't know. That was and like the stuff that I'm interested in doesn't overlap with those. So if anything, I feel like I'm the out there.
Starting point is 00:20:22 I don't know. You that only counts for people that showed up at like year one, two, three, etc. Some compared to like horror and RPGs are a massive part of well. Luckily, that that follow, luckily for me, I don't have to explain horror anymore because it's dead. Sure. But I've like over the years, I've noticed like there's been some overlap in those who happen to care stick around. But there's so many that like would not have showed up for my shit.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Have you ever worried they came for your shit? Have you ever worried that it is because fighting games are bad? In notes, because they're hard and unfriendly to to start playing. Yeah. And they don't explain things. And it's it's it's it's fairly interesting. A million other excuses like and they're online. It is not great.
Starting point is 00:21:09 And just a million things that could be fixed. Like whereas an RPG is put like put $50 down, get 100 hours of fun. Yeah. And then you it's like you read a book at the end. And then you go cool. I read the I actually think a weirder and more fair comparison would be like, let's take Street Fighter and like Warframe in terms of like time investment. But like Warframe doesn't boop your nose when you don't know what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Right. Mm hmm. There's also a natural stopping point in a lot of these games and survival horrors and all the others because you hit a credit, you know. So for you, I mean, the the credits don't even roll after Octo Pimp is standing over your corpse. Definitely, you still have to go keep playing. But all that to say that. Yeah, I think the the the core came from a different place.
Starting point is 00:22:03 And that's why so much of like trying. That's why so much of like what I've had to do over the years has been on a like introductory friendly sort of level. You should you should have there's there's a few there's people that definitely are in and they get it. Yeah, but like so much of what I'm doing mentally whenever I'm talking about fighting games on like in front of a microphone is editing for people that are new slash might not understand it.
Starting point is 00:22:28 So when I see one of those posts hilarious as it is, it makes me go. Am I not dumbing it down enough? I really, really, really, really tried not best to never use. No, the best super complicated. I know exactly what it is. I know exactly what it is. And it's like you're building off like you're like, OK, we started this podcast. And I like I explained what footsies is three weeks ago or a little bit ago.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Right. And I'm like, good. Now everybody knows what footsies except most people, they only catch one podcast here, one podcast there because they're not consistent. Download every five. So then the next time we talk about footsies, even though we explained it last time, I hear it. And so they go, what are footsies? That's why that's why I like I try and re-explain the stupid bullshit every time.
Starting point is 00:23:11 And I see you die every time. Yeah. And I'm like, well, it's because. But I don't know. But I also. OK, but I also explained that I don't die either. I have resting bitch face. If you want, you do, I have resting bitch face and everyone over analyzes the way you have.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Right. Everyone over analyzes the way I look when I'm just listening. Yeah. Right. And even if I'm giving my attention and asking and like responding and being a part of the question, like, I'm still going to sit and listen to what you're saying, yeah, because that's the way I listen. I would. I kind of listen. But listening normally as people see it, they're already interpreting that, oh, he's dying inside.
Starting point is 00:23:46 And that's the way you interpret it, too. I wish I had both are putting that on me, but it's not there. I wish I had RBF more than what I got real. But my resting face has my lazy eye point to the side. And it's like, the fuck is wrong with you? Resting face. Sure, because I'm like, like, I promise you a bunch of times where like, I'm legit like I'm we're having a conversation.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Well, don't worry, we can test that today. OK, but you automatically I bet you I bet you you won't. Yeah, because if it's about what was it even called, it's such a weird name disco. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that looks great. Yeah, I'm super in and interested. And I want to talk for that. OK, alternatively, no truth with the furries.
Starting point is 00:24:29 So no, woolly's not going to be dying inside on that because that game looks fantastic. I can't wait to play it. You should play it. I'm going to. You should not play it and any professional capacity. Well, that's the problem, right? It's a hell of a lot of reading. And I need to figure out if that's even feasible.
Starting point is 00:24:44 You want you want to have like five people if you want to do it. And it's like 45 hours long. Or it's like you don't read it out loud. You just read it in your head. I read I I floated that suggestion. People didn't want people want to hear the voices. Yeah, because you can't minimize it if otherwise. Right. Oh, no, you can't.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Oh, man, that'd be really hard. But it will get to that. And you don't fuck it. Let's just get to that right now. It looks so OK. Disco Elysium came out. Disco Elysium is a disco RPG that takes place in a fake South America, Brazil.
Starting point is 00:25:15 It's it's fake universe, everything in which you play as a scumbag shit head, the worst cop ever. And you have that scumbag face. Yeah, you have the scumbag face that you can't change. And you customize everything around it like you can get dressed. Yeah, but you still look like a piece of shit in which you wake up. And the very first thing in the game is your ancient reptile brain and your limbic system are arguing as to whether or not
Starting point is 00:25:41 you should wake up out of your amnesiac blackout because you're so fucked. It is a it's not an RPG. Stop calling it an RPG. It is absolutely an RPG. It has dice. It has literal dice. What is what are you talking about? You know what? Here's guy. All right. So this this is this is going to follow all anyway as a as a relatively appropriate thing in terms of what people argue about genre,
Starting point is 00:26:07 because we argued about genre last week with Indivisible, right? With the probably the week before week before a lot of people don't believe that disco Elysium is an RPG. And that is a fascinating distinction that I see. And the reason why that belief exists is because the game has zero combat. It has no combat. It does not have a definitive combat system. I didn't know that it has zero combat.
Starting point is 00:26:40 That's crazy of any kind. What it does have is conflict. Yes. And it is a role playing game in a form of double entendre, because there is a I don't know if you remember a weird like like argument that people had about Dungeons and Dragons when three point O came out. I think you fucked around and looked at at least red two point O stuff back in a D&D back in the day.
Starting point is 00:27:05 And it was like fucking dice up the ass. It was fucking crazy. So I never played it, but my friend who did was giving me the rundown on how complicated it used to get. Yeah, it was crazy and we did play a game where I had a character sheet with all the expanded numbers because you didn't just have the stats. You had it was like a box. Yeah, it was a lot.
Starting point is 00:27:28 It was a lot. It's where the echo came from. You know, all that shit. Three point O added something that a lot of people liked and a lot of people didn't like. And one of the things that added was roles for social stats. Right. If I remember correctly, it's this like 15 years ago. But basically people would make fun of three point O by calling it a role playing game in that it would be ROLL.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Yeah. In that all you would be doing is rolling dice to see if you convinced the guy rolling dice and disco Elysium is like that. It is very planescape torment and it's very old fashioned. But hey, dude, I want to fight this guy. I want to know, you know what? I want to fight this child, something that occurred. Why do I want to fight the child?
Starting point is 00:28:13 Because I asked him to stop throwing rocks at my lynch victims dick and he started screaming that I was going to rape him. So I decided that I should fight him. What do I do? I don't go into a combat system. I don't, you know, a grid doesn't show up like in Banner Saga. Real time with pause doesn't come up. It just says physical instrument dice roll 48 percent. Click it. You see two literal dice roll.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Yep. Box cars always wins. Snake eyes always loses. And whether or not you pass or fail, you either punch that kid out like a bitch or something else, I don't know, because I didn't fail the role. That's the calm the combat. And because it doesn't have combat and because it is all talking to people. People are saying it's not RPG. It's a visual novel or it's a walking simulator.
Starting point is 00:29:09 I think that distinction is ridiculous because the games focus on stats and character building is so absurd. So I'm going to back up a little bit. I would hear an argument that like if someone who's played a game, an RPG, if every RPG someone's played has had combat that the absence thereof would be questionable. Yeah, I'll hear that because I also didn't expect anything like the indivisible discussion we had. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:39 So and this is the literal opposite direction. I was educated as a result of that. So you've heard of Planescape. Tormant, I assume I have and I found it. And I find it funny that, like, again, when we're talking about audiences in this discussion, you could throw out a reference like that and not really have to explain it. Yeah, because the people you talk about
Starting point is 00:29:59 Fatal Fury, for example, which I think should be a common reference. Then I have to explain exactly what a super desperation. So Tormant's a classic. The writing's incredible. I know you know, it actually come to think of it because you love laughing about that fucking dialogue. I love that one amazing show. Yeah, that fucking 13 thing.
Starting point is 00:30:18 And there are it's the radish that I've ever seen truth and then the same options as lie, lie, lie. Oh, not even that one. Oh, no, no, no, that's not the one I love. My favorite thing ever is what is the nature of that? That's what I'm talking about. OK, OK. Because there are two there at the bottom that are the same answers, but they're lies. That's amazing. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:35 So the thing about Tormant is that the combat sucks shit. This is Tormant, like you wake up as an amnesiac, you find a fucking smooth person who knows the like the general layout of the beginning is very similar. But they said, now fuck the combat and the cannery kind of kind of, you know, he fucking went back and recorded extra lines. I know, I know we did. That's so cool. So talking about the game's obsession with statistics is bordering on the unhealthy
Starting point is 00:31:07 and it represents the most unbelievable reactive storyline I have ever seen. So I'm going to walk you through some dumb ass stats for a second. Follow with me, gang. This will go somewhere. The main choices you have when you start the game, do you want to be really academically intelligent? Do you want to be emotionally intelligent and sensitive? Do you want to be physically powerful or do you want to be dexterous?
Starting point is 00:31:34 These are pretty classic standbys. It's basically strength, intelligence, decks and etc. Right, charisma within those attributes, you have 24 derived statistics that determine everything about how you check every single interaction in the entire game and every interaction has a check every single interaction. So these range from rhetoric, to logic, to dexterity, essentially. Do we have to explain what a check is? Yeah, no, it's when the checks against your skills.
Starting point is 00:32:11 I'm thinking about all of this now. It's in my brain. It's in my brain about what it's not a fighting game, do how much has to be explained or not. So it's got all sorts of normal stats like that. It's got stuff like that's a little less, a little more esoteric, like empathy and authority. And then it's got really weird ones like Inland Empire, which is your ability.
Starting point is 00:32:30 What is that? Inland Empire is named as the kingdom within yourself. It's very lynchian and is your ability to see beyond the plot and involve such things as talking to your tie to get information or interrogating a male. So like Dale Cooper from Twin Peaks. Canadianism? No, like like fucking deadly premonition, Twin Peaks shit.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Like you use nonsense magic bullshit. OK, OK. And then you get to my favorite one. So I picked encyclopedia, right, as my signature skill. What did that mean? That meant on every single time I talked to a character, there was an encyclopedia role in the background. And if it passed, the game would spit out background information
Starting point is 00:33:14 about what we were talking about. So if they mentioned a district in town, there would be a hidden little encyclopedia role in the background. And if it passed, it would tell me how difficult the check was. And then it would say this district is the blah, blah, blah, blah. Yes, that's if you choose something, if you choose something like the best example possible, electrochemistry. Electrochemistry is your love of drugs, your tolerance for drugs,
Starting point is 00:33:45 your understanding of those who love drugs, et cetera. A really good example in popular fiction. Walter White has incredible logic and intelligence, but Jesse Pinkman has great electrochemistry. You know, when he tricks the meth head into digging up his own yard. That's a successful electrochemistry test. Right. So when you go into a bar and you see a passed out man next to a spilled glass of rum and the rum has stained to the counter,
Starting point is 00:34:16 what will occur is you will look at that and your electrochemistry will literally speak to you because the stats are your party. You have 24 party members with you at all times, and they are the aspects of your personality and they are your stat. So the lower stat is spread out across every possible interaction that has to do with that thing. The empathy stat is every time you talk to somebody and you're trying to figure out how they feel.
Starting point is 00:34:40 The Esprit a call is whenever you talk to your buddies at the police station and you're trying to figure out the morale there. And electrochemistry is every time you encounter drugs, alcohol or whatever, such as the stained countertop, electrochemistry shows up in your dialogue and goes, Hey, man, you haven't had a drink in hours. Yeah. OK, so this is exactly as cool as I thought it was. Yeah. And the I'll take this an example. You haven't even talked about drinking in hours.
Starting point is 00:35:05 And that's a dialogue option that only showed up because I hadn't asked for a drink at that point in the game. And at this point, it goes, you have three options. Goes, I don't need a drink, a third one, which I don't remember. And the first one, which I picked, which, you know, I've been secretly thinking about drinking for hours and electrochemistry will yell at you, you know what you should do? You will make you feel great licking the booze off that countertop.
Starting point is 00:35:30 And after I did that and I talked to the passed out guy beside it, he said, Oh, it's a shame I can't offer you any room. And my character had a dialogue option saying, No, no, it's fine. I had some. It was fantastic. So these checks, there are 24 are exploding across every conversation in a game that's only dialogue. Constantly, constantly, constantly, constantly. When you are talking to a person for the first time,
Starting point is 00:35:58 if your authority senses that they respect authority, authority will pipe up and tell you to yell at them or assert that you're a police officer or yell at them that you're a police officer or take out your gun, et cetera. And the most interesting thing is that the game will warn you if your stats are too high, they will damage your character. Because if your stats are so high, you will pass every authority check and authority will show up in every conversation telling you to assert authority.
Starting point is 00:36:26 If your stats, if your encyclopedia stat is too high, every single conversation you have in the game will be filled with extraneous detail that doesn't matter. You become that weirdo obsessed with that stat. If your drama is too high, people will take you less seriously because your dialogue options will tend towards the more ridiculous, yeah, OK, et cetera. And it becomes an obsession more than that.
Starting point is 00:36:55 On top of all of that, correct? Yes. Yes. OK. On top. Sorry. On top of all that insanity is the fact that I and two friends of mine played and saw every single conversation go differently because your stats can get you so it's a range from six to one. You don't have enough points to be good at anything, right? If you have six in one, most of the others are going to be garbage. What this means is that when you're trying to do things like sneak away,
Starting point is 00:37:24 fight a guy, open up a dumpster or grab your tie off a ceiling fan, you fail checks, checks you can't redo in most cases constantly. You fail them constantly, but they're not fail states. They're just your character fucking up. So, for example, in the first room in the game, your tie is on a ceiling fan that is going around. I did not think and forgot to turn the fan off before trying to get my tie. Therefore, I suffered a minus three to my physical impediment
Starting point is 00:38:00 to try and grab the tie, failed the check, almost had a heart attack from exertion, took a point of damage and became near death and could not get my tie. Immediately. Immediately. When I called the precinct to tell them that I had, in fact, lost my badge in a drunken stupor and they made a joke about, well, at least you didn't lose your gun, right?
Starting point is 00:38:24 And then I realized that I had, in fact, lost my gun. I had to pass a saving throw to not take a morale point of damage from humiliation as my precinct laugh at me. Okay. Your character is so strung out and drug addicted that when I kicked a dumpster because I couldn't open it in anger, I took a point of damage, had a heart attack and died within the first two hours. How safe system?
Starting point is 00:38:53 Constantly in classic auto saves and then just classic save whenever you want. So there's no, so there's no combat, but you can die all the time, all the time. So for more, so depending on your stats, you have either more health or more morale, morale is even more interesting. If your morale hit zero, your character gives up and goes to live under a bridge. And that's the end of the story. Okay. Yep.
Starting point is 00:39:15 And you're just a shitty old man. Here's one more dialogue system on top of that. The idea system. Say, Willie, I start the game and I'm a drunk piece of shit and I don't have any money to pay my rent and I'm going to become a hobo. And I talk to people about becoming hobo. I may unlock the idea hobo cop. You then equip the hobo cop idea, which decreases your, I think it's your authority
Starting point is 00:39:47 because you're a hobo. And once I've internalized that hobo cop idea for a few hours, I will become a hobo cop and gain stat bonus benefits associated with being a hobo cop. You could become a superstar cop, a sorry cop. I had someone on Twitter mentioned to me that they were not paying attention when talking to someone who was complaining about a certain group of people and accidentally unlocked the advanced race theory option in the thought menu. Wow.
Starting point is 00:40:19 That if you equip it turns you into a white supremacist. So, so hold on. The thought menu is they are unlockable skills that will benefit your stats. But also it's all think of it as a job system for losers. And it's your mind. Yeah. And whatever you equip is going to what you think you are over time. And it'll further commit to those.
Starting point is 00:40:43 There's a there's a good one that people like to use for an example is when you're arguing with your reptile brain, one of the options you can pick as to why you're blacked out is because you're a superstar cop. Like, you know, like a start skiing hutch or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Now, this is nonsense and you're actually a piece of shit and you smell and the item descriptions of your clothes state that they are covered in piss and shit and cum. But you're a superstar.
Starting point is 00:41:11 What does this mean? It means that once you fully internalize being a superstar cop, you will gain the stat limits on some of the things like, you know, authority and all that will go higher than they would otherwise. But you take a permanent debuff to minus one to logic because you're not a superstar cop. Obviously. And you are actively deluding yourself every moment.
Starting point is 00:41:32 So the game provides you with the truth and then you are allowed to interpret it. And however you personally desire and based on whatever you go with, it'll start pushing those ideas. Yeah. However, like the truth will not change. Yeah, the game is amazing. Yeah, the game is really, really, really good. Incredibly hilarious.
Starting point is 00:41:51 And I was playing hoping to fail scenarios. And there's an early one that shows this off really well. I didn't have the money to pay my rent. So I chose the sneak away, despite the fact that I was in an empty bar and I attempted to sneak away. Your character upon failing the sneak check starts sprinting, jumps, turns around in the air and flips double birds at the bartender and then crashes into an old woman in a wheelchair.
Starting point is 00:42:25 Mirror's Edge, a little bit. Beautiful, which led to a sequence that was unique to that series of scenarios. Yeah, I heard I was reading about how it took them like five years of just putting all these apparently it was written by a novelist. Sure, which you would believe putting all these branches together. Yes, looks like I get the voice acting that is there. It's not all of it. It can't be is incredible.
Starting point is 00:42:57 The look is like watercolor, like, like, like, it's hard to say, like, like hard watercolor, like a lot of sharp lines. It's but it's still just reading an audio book in terms of like trying to play this in front of it is the most complex. Choose your own adventure game that's ever existed. Yeah. Yeah. And it is how to how to how do I I don't know. Well, I streamed it for three hours.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Yeah, I spent about half hour in character creation, half an hour talking to the chat, stuff like that. I only really read for two, maybe even an hour and 45 minutes. I was doing recitation for an hour and 45 minutes nonstop at about the speed that I'm talking now and cut the stream short because I was exhausted. Yeah. If you have ever, I mean, we've done a lot of LPs and we've read a lot of dialogue.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Yeah, there is a little tiring. There is literally no comparison I can make that does this game's amount of text justice. Yeah, it's it's it's not that much I can tell. I guess, like you said, you flirted with the idea of of of just reading it internally. Yeah. And too much that you would have to you would have to put like a timer on your own body to be like, read it now, wait, I guess.
Starting point is 00:44:16 But I guess what I'm what I'm thinking of is that like because that's such a hurdle, right? And the LP poison is like seeping. Yeah, weeping wood. But like, is that is that unfavorable way of doing it? Not preferable to not doing it at all. Is I'll see in our cases, it's slightly different as I'm doing because if someone, for example, is like, damn, I wish they were reading
Starting point is 00:44:41 it out loud, yeah, right. But it's obvious why that's such a huge problem. Should it not then be understandable that, OK, I'm not going to read this out loud, but that is what allows me to actually play it. Since I'm doing live content, the ability to just like not do it's like it's it's not even a discussion. It's like it's off the table, right? Because if people look away in a YouTube context with the ability
Starting point is 00:45:06 to create a puzzle fucking game, yeah, it's more viable. Yeah, the game is also really long. Yeah, it's what I people recommended to me. I thought it was going to be like a fucking six hour telltale style fucking thing. And then I get to the store page and it's a forty five dollar game because it's a full length, forty and fifty hour RPG with the like the most reactive dialogue I've ever seen. So like multi like this, I look at this and like play through after play through
Starting point is 00:45:36 after play through after play through would be totally viable. Right. So the game is an incredible it's a steal at what it is. And everybody should buy it. Everybody. But sure, it's a lot of reading. It's just it's a you want to read. Here's some reading. Yeah. I'm just I this is one of those scenarios where you'd be like, do I bet on people understanding the problems or do the problems
Starting point is 00:46:01 mean that you shouldn't have tried? I don't know. I think I think everybody should take a look at it. Yeah. And like like a one off would make perfect sense because you could you could recite it for a one off, right? And then just die afterwards. But yeah, the the the whoa, whoa, whoa, it's a lot. It's a lot. It's the total opposite of games that have nothing going on.
Starting point is 00:46:24 And you're just wandering around. Yeah. Right. It's it's it's that which is that's really good for LP purposes. Yeah. Although, of course, is also like paying attention to everything you're reading and making sure that you don't miss out on key hints. There are there. Yeah. Well, it is pretty good at being like the hints are your stats. The stats are generally trying to help you when they talk to you.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Yeah. But like, do you ever end up in a room after someone said, go in that room and something, something and maybe something. And then you missed that maybe in the room. Why am I here in the two plus hours I played? I only went into three rooms. OK. So I I don't know how to. I will I do want to give the game extra super good props on top of that
Starting point is 00:47:12 for the incredible quality of the writing. I'm laughing out loud constantly when I'm talking to some lady on the phone and she explains that it was in fact me that in a drunken rage broke the stuffed bird that adorned the bar. The options are, I'm sorry, I don't remember that. I'll try and make restitution and my favorite just fucking bird. Just fucking going out into the back
Starting point is 00:47:44 and seeing Kuno, a 12 year old on speed, screaming at me that I shouldn't get on him with that book learning shit. And his sister yelling at him to escalate and to yell at everyone that I'm digging my dick out of my pants. Mm hmm. Like. Did not did not expect the game to go in that direction. That's the other bit, right, where it's like, even if you do miss something or bumble, you bumble into a different.
Starting point is 00:48:10 You bumble into something different. You bumble into different. And that's also really good sounding. Yeah. So yeah, that it's funny, because like, like, while having this discussion, I was kind of like, I was curious to see. I was like, I'm waiting to see if anyone's going like, ah, yeah, just go for it anyway. Or if I'm like, no, don't do it.
Starting point is 00:48:24 You fail forward on this one. And and people are silent on whether or not like that's a worthy endeavor, because clearly everyone is uncertain, at least in chat at the moment, as to whether or not it would be worth it to go into it, but not read out loud in the upload thread. For like the comments on my my stream upload and the, you know, the little reddit thread when the thing goes live. Yeah. Same argument. People go on like, well, they know, no point.
Starting point is 00:48:52 I hope I hope, well, your Pat, do this. Oh, but I can't read all the dialogue. No, no, they really should just take their time. It's like, no, you can't. Yeah. This is why I think there was one guy who was like, this this game is why I don't think streamers or LPS should read all the dialogue, etc., etc. And it's like, oh, man, there is absolutely no agreement on this whatsoever. But you should play it for yourself at the very least, because it is nuts.
Starting point is 00:49:16 It is fucking sick. What about getting some sort of robot reader to one about dialogue like this? I don't know if that would be possible. Welcome to disco Elysium, where I start, I still think it's really funny that the game was called no truce for the furries with the furries. And then everyone kept calling it no truce with the furries. And then they changed the name to Cisco Elysium. Really? I like the last day. Yeah, well.
Starting point is 00:49:45 Oh, and it's called disco Elysium because your character is disco. Despite not being in a disco time period, your character is a total asshole and is rocking disco mutton chops and the spirit of disco in his heart. No truce with the furries sounds way cooler. Yeah, well, damn. Well, if you have an opinion on whether or not dialogue, well, no, but if you just ask that, then the only people that care,
Starting point is 00:50:17 only people that want to see will even bother responding. People who don't want to see it won't just say, yeah, it's sample size. Sample size is not going to work. Is that if my interest is going to determine whether or not you even interact with that. Maybe if I just made like a poll on Twitter and then threw it out there, then like if you were encountered with two button clicks, you might choose one or the other. Fun fact about polls on Twitter gang, not legally binding. Yeah, no, not at all.
Starting point is 00:50:38 But yeah, maybe I'll just make one of those and see what people think. But like, I don't want to assume that, you know, you can't like, you do bet on reasonable or do you bet on unreasonable, right? And that's the trouble because this looks, there's so much here that I think sounds fantastic. And there's so many clear hurdles. And I think that like sitting and reading is going to be tricky, but will the payoff be worth it?
Starting point is 00:51:06 You know, so. Yeah. Anyway, the length is always the issue too. But there you go. So yeah, that's cool. Yeah, length is always an issue. Yeah. I assume you're.
Starting point is 00:51:20 I mean, that's not a problem you're running into without our worlds, obviously. So no, well, out of worlds is voice acted. Yeah. Like just top to bottom almost every single thing. The only thing I'm reading out of worlds is like diaries and like, you know, a fucking text, you know, computer logs and shit. And those are fewer and far between than they would be in say fallout even. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Don't do it. Will you do it? Yeah. There. Shut up. There it is. Do it. You pussy.
Starting point is 00:51:46 No, don't do it, man. It's ridiculous. Bring Reggie and Min. Min would not follow any of that. That would be a really not great idea, guys. Let's be real. Unfortunately, I think it's right over his head. Come on.
Starting point is 00:51:59 We know this. Anyway. Yeah. I don't know who cares about me and my dumb kind of like what at that point that sounds way that sounds fantastic. Fascinating. That sounds interesting. Like, I don't know that that combo broke me talking about.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know. No, no, no, I wanted to know about it. So that's totally fine. Does that like what did that? How'd you do it? Can I go? I got ninth I lost to at the the pool.
Starting point is 00:52:38 The pool finals. I still haven't made it out of pools, guys, because the pool is the worst to exit to top eight. And I fought the top seeded player or like, yeah, that I fought the top seeded player in my second round and and EOCR. He's he's super good at fighting games. And like, it's interesting because when I played casually against him and I played casually against Alex Valle and I played casually like against
Starting point is 00:53:06 other people the weekend and I was like, I'm doing pretty all right. I'm doing OK. This is not complete wash. Like, I'm like, I'm in there. And then like, yeah, in that set in the in the tournament and EOCR just completely like made the hardest reads and like it was crazy how good he was. So I lost pretty quickly there, then went through the loser's bracket. And one on one on a decent enough tear for a little bit and came back up through
Starting point is 00:53:30 to get to the pool finals. And then I had to fight Lord Jimmy Bones, who is the guy that's from Montreal that I play with all the time. Yeah. And what makes it even better is that I I covered I sponsored him to go out there like I covered his trip out there. So I literally literally man created my own hurdle. Towards getting to top eight.
Starting point is 00:53:56 The one thing that I want to accomplish self destroyed. Oh, man. Like 100 percent self architected, you know, could have done it if I didn't. But I wanted my my my really that's what you get being nice. Well, that's the hilarious part of these things. And Montreal versus Montreal happens often because it's like, you know, eventually when you're if you're good enough, like you're it's going to whittle down to something.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Yeah. But it breaks out in such a way where I'm like, yeah, I literally created my own wall and then was crushed by it. Good job, Atachi. And to make things even worse on top of that, while that usually goes like definitely his way and we play a lot. I got my games in there and we did a set the night before and it was going very much my it was going my way.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Things were going pretty good. And that was and because of the way things went there when we got to the seat on stream and like went, yeah, that's the way it goes. And he switched to a completely different character. And I went, you motherfucker, because last night was not what you wanted to happen. So he went, he just completely went to death. So he went, he went around the bat on me and I was like, that's hilarious. But I get it.
Starting point is 00:55:14 I get it. You know, we played this one way the whole time. He said, yeah, play. That's what he did. That's what he did. You know, so he made it up and he got tied for seventh. But I just, yeah, man, I want to make it to Sunday, you know, but whatever. In any case, at the very least, I know that like not just not just based on that
Starting point is 00:55:34 placement, but also based on who was there and based on like the casual sets I was playing and stuff like I'm pretty good at this game. I feel like I'm climbing. Yeah, I'm climbing like I don't ever want to say I'm good at fighting games because yeah, there's always so much more to be. But I think I'm good at samurai showdown. I just don't think I'm like good enough to be like in grand finals. And I'm not good enough to be a top eight level yet.
Starting point is 00:56:05 But I think I'm good enough to like make it. So at Evo, do you feel confident that you will drag yourself out of pools? I don't know. Okay. If it makes it to another Evo, I hope so. Oh, that'd be sad. These are these are this is SNK. This is SNK's second game.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Yeah. Right. That's not the game people are paying the most attention to. All right. But at the end of the day, like I'm just going to while it's alive, I'm going to do what I can. It won't be alive forever. So while it's alive for now, I'm going to do what I can. And that's why I'm like traveling and doing this stuff.
Starting point is 00:56:38 Have you ever thought of just because there's going to be a time limit hard on this game when it suddenly doesn't have any of this stuff? Have you ever thought of going down to like a metal worker and like commissioning a fake trophy and then just lying? What's the point of that? Well, you would have it. And then you can lie to yourself. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:57 This is not to get all Ryu, but like the trophy literally means nothing. Okay. Like who actually gives a fuck? I like trophy. The payout means nothing. What? No. Dude, the cost of flying to Calgary and staying in a hotel
Starting point is 00:57:18 is higher than the money you're going to make for winning it. Yeah, that's why you gotta win it. Who cares if you win? Like it couldn't actually mean less. Well, you could use the winning money to get yourself a trophy. You know, there's pop bonuses sometimes that might, you know, be a huge like incentive the other way and stuff. But in the cases of these events I'm flying out to, the cost of going there is always higher.
Starting point is 00:57:45 Oh, sure. I'm just saying sometimes things are just as good when you just get them. So yeah, I'm just, I'm just trying to do my best. Willie, why doesn't this count as you saying you're going to take it serious slash go pro? Going pro in my brain means trying to get sponsored. Going pro is like that make a living. Making it your career, right? The term going pro is so absurdly far from what I think I'm doing right now.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Wait, Willie, are you not a pro gamer? That's funny. Right. I'm a professional talker over video games. And I'm professional at bumbling and like not delivering quality pro bumbler gameplay. Right. But the idea of going pro in your head versus what it actually means in this context is very diverse.
Starting point is 00:58:36 You're not calling up a razor and being like, Hey man, sponsor my. Get my jersey with my tag on the back and then all these sponsorships and whatnot. Like that's that's so far from what I'm doing. I'm entering a free for all event. Right. I'm going to where these events are happening. And like, I know that from just playing it in your in your house with your friends or online. And then like, I know there's a huge gap.
Starting point is 00:59:02 There's a huge difference, a gulf between that spot and going to these events. Right. There's a spot in the middle, which is the meetups. Yes. Right. And even traveling. I know. But what you might not see is that the difference between what that spot I'm describing and then
Starting point is 00:59:19 actually being a professional like fighting game player is also a massive. But you can't see that one. You just see the one where I'm traveling to the events and you think that might mean going. Which it's not. So I'm sorry to say that's just not the case. That's not a very pro gamer move. Right. I hope that makes some sense.
Starting point is 00:59:37 Right. Playing on a professional level. Yeah. There's a huge there's a huge difference. So it's it's tough to explain, but from one to 95 percent feels about the same distance as from 95 to 100 percent. Yeah. And that's the hardest part to get across when like people are really excited when you're on
Starting point is 01:00:01 stream and they're like, man, I hope you make it. I got just good enough at Third Strike to understand just how far away I was. Like, you know, the end result is binary. Right. If the end result is binary, but there's just no words to describe how much the difficulty from 95 to 96 is there is a reason that the dumb anime line of your X years too early to defeat me actually resonates. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Because you feel it. And I mean, like I can break down why I think the opening second of my match against that top seated player resulted in me getting a massive like 25 or 30 percent damage counter. Yeah. I ate a huge, huge counter from him right off the bat. But the point, but it doesn't matter. The point is, is that like he was able to like make a hard assessment on what type of player he thought I was and he was correct.
Starting point is 01:01:13 Yeah. You know, and that's the part that takes time. Yeah. It's and it's based off like looking at you looking at the one seconds worth of whatever and then just right feel. And yeah, like you see them how they play for around you watch how they play a couple other games and you go, OK, he tends to do this and he likes to do that. And that fits him into this category of player.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Right. Yeah. Whether that means you're always rushing in and attacking, whether that means you're standing back and blocking a lot or whether it means you are playing somewhere in between. Right. Are you the kind of person that will take a lot of risks or are you the kind of person that will be more safe and conservative? It's like poker, right?
Starting point is 01:01:52 Yeah. And so making an assessment on what you kind of with the kind of player you think you're fighting and being right is huge payoff, especially in this kind of game. So it reminds me of back in the day, there's a scrub level equivalent of this feeling. And it is back when you were playing with your dumb buddies in alpha or whatever. And it's the final round and your buddy has full meter and you're like, he's going to do a fucking level three super at the instant the fucking round starts. The fucking millisecond and you jump and sure enough, that shit goes right underneath you
Starting point is 01:02:35 because you were right. And then you get a huge lead right away. Oh, yeah. It's just hilarious. I mean, so that there's an entire there's an entire like thought process you put towards like desperation. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:53 Because you can see as someone gets lower and lower in their life, how they'll increasingly be willing to take a big risk and throw something crazy out there. Yeah. And in this game, like I said, there's massive rewards for it. So yeah, especially in Sam's show. Right. So when you read the exact moment that the person panics in some cases, it'll be the moment the life bar turns from green into orange, which means you're about to die.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Yeah. Right. Um, and that's this is the point where soul stealing that I referred to earlier comes into play because that's the moment where someone goes, oh, no, and then hits the burst and you go, that's when I'm going to grab it because I knew you were going to do it right there. Yeah. So anyway, um, yes, that was jargon free.
Starting point is 01:03:41 It was. Okay. I was listening and I'm like noticing that you're you're explicitly avoiding you said hard assessments and I'm like, oh, oh, you. Well, a burst is what happens when you get the guy off of you for free once I felt the context clues that helped that. I hope so. Um, don't worry, Willie.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Riot's going to make a big fighting game with the League of Legends movers characters. And then everyone will play fighting games. You know, I said that as a joke and then I'm like, no, that's a real possibility. Yeah. Who knows? They can handle this any way they want to. Yeah. Um, but anyway, uh, so yeah, that was really funny.
Starting point is 01:04:25 That's how it went. But in all in all, I had a lot of fun and I'm glad that I was able to get an accurate, uh, gauge for, uh, where I guess I'm at at the moment in terms of, uh, Sam show. Do you get the feeling that like a couple months ago you'd have just died instantly? Oh, I know. Because I enter, I also enter like, uh, online weeklies. Okay. And those same killers are present in the online weeklies.
Starting point is 01:04:53 Oh yeah. So you get to see how far you go, you know, um, it's all. Yeah. And, and there's just, there's just like, I take notes on every little new thing that I, that's relevant that I, that I notice. And like that page went from like a couple of bullets under every character's name to now being a humongous scrolling. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:14 Right. So like my, my, my darling lab page, uh, is like tripled, if not quadrupled in size. So that means that's how many more things I'm thinking about in each matchup. It's actually interesting to see like the versioning over time of the document. Yeah. Because it literally is a physical, like representation of like how much your brain is trying to, because it goes from something simple, like don't jump in on blank. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:44 To not under this situation to every, to every other thing. Small variable. Yeah. And then it becomes like, you can jump in after this, but not after that. And then if you see this, then absolutely jump in, but then try to fake it sometimes. Yeah. Which gets way more complex than just don't jump in. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:05 You know. Anyway, so, um, I love fighting games. I love them too. I really do. Man, our system works has completely replaced Capcom in my heart. And I think that's sad, but they deserve it. Because I just said, man, fighting games are good and I like them. And my brain went to being excited for Guilty Gear and Grand Blue Fantasy.
Starting point is 01:06:25 I'm glad you brought that up. Two things about that. One, uh, it's interesting because Capcom didn't, uh, rather, Ona did an interview recently with, uh, Eurogamer in which they brought up the fact that Capcom's currently not the main fighting game. Yeah. People right now. And he kind of said, well, the way they're looking at it is like, yeah,
Starting point is 01:06:44 but Street Fighter is still Street Fighter. Yeah. And we're thinking long term here. Sure. Right. People came and asked him about Dragon Ball when that was coming out last year. And he's like, that's not necessarily what people are bringing up now. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Right. Right. People are now bringing up like Mortal Kombat being the thing. But he's like, so he's like, we're in it for the long haul and. Street Fighter is going to be Street Fighter until they massively fight him. And to be fair, he's not wrong about that, you know. But like, if it does end up in like, it would have to have multiple entries of like bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:13 For Pete, the, for the, the tide to turn, it would have to go through the equivalent of what Mortal Kombat went through, which was like five bad games in the row. Four. Well, okay. Wait, where we start? We're starting with MK versus DC. And we're working backwards through the three, the trilogy. Okay.
Starting point is 01:07:32 Cause I went, I went forward and I started at four, five, six, seven, eight. That's five games because DC was one of them. Well, yeah, you're pretty much there. Yeah. That's pretty much it. Like MK nine is the thing where it's from three to nine, man. But like, but like the quality drop between like four and deadly alliance was even further. So, and there was a, you know, anyway, man, that first cutscene deadly alliance was pretty
Starting point is 01:08:07 good though. They killed Liu Kang. Oh man. The point is there was, there was three or four bad Mortal Kombat games in a row. And that just completely turned the time. It made everyone feel the way they feel about Terminator as a fragile. Oh man. Right.
Starting point is 01:08:23 Good poll. Terminator currently sitting on the shelf probably forever, but nothing's forever. Yeah. Right. Everything comes back after a decade or two. The interview in which the guy talks about how Terminator is a dead franchise because it's they've ruined it so thoroughly ends with him saying, yeah, well, they'll probably reboot it another five years or something.
Starting point is 01:08:45 And you're like, how is it dead? That's not, what the fuck? Because the people who buy it and the licenses get passed around and then the IP gets passed around and then whoever buys it next goes, okay, I've got it now time to do it. You know, and it's like, if Mick G couldn't do it, then how are you supposed to do it? Right. The worst part is I'm hearing Dark Fate isn't even that bad compared to all the other clunkers. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:12 But it's still like, it's no T2. No one. Yeah. Unfortunately, that's the problem with the franchise. It's you're competing against one of the greatest movies ever made. And you're there and you're trying to recreate them. You're not going to do it. You know.
Starting point is 01:09:26 So anyway. And you know, for its credit, people are pointing out that Salvation did, was the only one that didn't just try to recreate. Yeah, it was weird. The others. It was definitely weird. But it was still awful and stupid. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:43 Anyway, I'll never forget you losing your mind at that valve. The fucking valve handle in the Terminator factory. Or the power of love. Yeah, yeah, well the power of love too. You know. Or the clothing on the T100s. You know. Whatever.
Starting point is 01:10:00 Don't worry about it. So the, so yeah, all that to say that, you know, that's the kind of case tree fighters in, but you brought up Granblue Fantasy Versus. And once I was out of Sam's show, I just sat down at that booth. Yeah. And I played Granblue for the rest of the weekend. Yeah. And I have a very, now I really, really get how that game is going to play out.
Starting point is 01:10:22 And I had some really good sets with Esteban, who was on my stream yesterday. Is that a good video game? Yeah. Granblue Fantasy Versus is a lot of fun. There's a lot of details it has that are kind of crossing over into like, okay, you can do normal inputs, right? To do, you can do like a quarter circle forward motion to do your fireball. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:47 Or you can just press forward and fireball button. Really? Forward and special button. Uh-huh. But if you do the version that is, uh, like there's a cool down after you do it. Yeah. Right. So if you do the input where you do a quarter circle forward and punch, that version,
Starting point is 01:11:08 the cool down is much quicker than if you were to use the shortcut button to do forward plus fireball. That one. This is like splitting the difference between like a regular fighting game and like smash. It is. Right. That's fun. That's fascinating.
Starting point is 01:11:23 So you know how they announced Terry Bogart earlier today? Yeah. And showed off that you can do inputs to do better versions of his moves. Just like Ryu and Ken. Just like Ryu and Ken. It's like that, right? But in here, it's not better in terms of the damage it does or its application. You'll be able to use it more often.
Starting point is 01:11:41 Yeah. It's that you get more frequent usage of it. Exactly. There are situations that even people that are pretty good at execution might want to go, oh, fuck, and just hit the shortcut. I found a couple of those. Because there are situations you just can't do the motion. The perfect example of that is a dragon punch.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Yeah. Right? Like it doesn't matter how good you are at throwing out that dragon punch. Like having to not, to having, seeing someone in the air and immediately being able to press a shortcut for it is just a more solid way to play. It's faster. It's a more solid, it's a reactionary move. Right?
Starting point is 01:12:21 Yeah. So there's moves where you don't have to react because it's a part of your offense. Yeah. So throwing out a Hadoken is going to be a part of your offense. You don't have to think about what they're doing as much when you're looking at them while you're throwing it out. But you're going to do a Shoryuken when they jump in at you. So having one button to do that makes you a better player.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Yeah. So it's an interesting way that they've given you both options here. And if instead you use that Shoryuken to catch their anti air as a read, you'll have it back very quickly instead of your react. Okay. Yeah. That's, hey. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:55 Oh, these dark system works people. Right. Very cool. Also, there's a move that Lancelot has who I main Lancelot for now. I have to see what the rest of the cast is going to be like. But he's a really fast, pretty boy. He's, he's a little brand blue. He's a handsome, handsome man with twin fangs, as they say.
Starting point is 01:13:18 Oh, that's a hot man. He's a very hot man. And he has a move that's forward, forward punch. But I want to run sometimes and then get a jab afterwards. Which is the same motion. So that's no good. So when I want to get that move out, I don't do forward, forward punch. I just do the shortcut.
Starting point is 01:13:37 Okay. You know. And what, and then the last thing I can think of that like makes it also different is, let's say you land a big bread and butter on somebody. So your bread and butter is your standard combo, right? So bing, bang, boom. You land your, your light, medium, heavy attack, and then you do a big fireball, right? So you've used the fireball already.
Starting point is 01:14:00 It's still on cooldown. They get back up. You're trying to hit them a second time. Right. You land a second hit when they get back up. You do like light, medium, heavy, but you don't have that fireball again. So you have to find a different thing to end that combo. So there's going to be bread and butters, but your enders are going to vary around what you've got.
Starting point is 01:14:20 Or you're going to have to do a different series of buttons to stall for time. Oh, less damage, make it longer, and then get back. That's interesting. So there's a, there's a couple of moments in there where I'm like literally kind of playing for time to get my move back as opposed to just trying to keep you oppressed. Yeah. By putting it by making you block what I'm doing, you know. It's so it's it's it's weird and different in that way.
Starting point is 01:14:48 Go for a reset, not because you want the extra scaling, but because you want more time. A hundred percent. That's exactly the application. Okay, right. So that's weird. Oh, man. So the reset there, what you're describing is basically you're lending light, medium, and then instead of going into heavy and then fireball, light, medium, and then I stop.
Starting point is 01:15:10 And then you're you are like, oh, I'm getting hit, so I'm not going to do anything. Yeah. Mentally. And then I go, ah, I'm going to restart the combo again and go light, medium, heavy, fireball because like you were not paying attention at that moment where I stopped pressing. So I reset the combo. I have to find out how this works with grapples, like with command grabs. Well, are they on timers as well?
Starting point is 01:15:34 Well, there's one character in the game that has a command grab is it's his unique button. So there's like light, medium, heavy, and then unique. Okay. And it's it's that unique you get as many as you want. Oh, so the command grab is a button. It's a button. Okay. And there's another big character that's coming in that also has
Starting point is 01:15:54 way to democratize grapplers. But there's going to be another character that has it on a cooldown as well. So but I haven't seen the application. Everybody gets to know the fear now. Yeah. But then again, did you did you touch injustice at all? I did not touch injustice. Injustice one has Solomon Grendy and he did.
Starting point is 01:16:11 Oh, no, I did place the injustice one. Yeah. Yeah, because he had a grapple button. Yeah, it was weird. I loved it. It was so weird. It was through me for a little beautiful. It was so fun.
Starting point is 01:16:22 So anyway, that's that's kind of what's interesting and like, yeah, like I had a lot of fun getting used to the ins and outs of how that works. When you build up super meter, it's only used for your super. There's no other thing that takes your meter away. Right. I like that. I like that a lot, actually, because ex moves, right? The the better head okay and all that are just going to be like extra cooldown.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Yeah. Okay, that's all. Yeah, you you you don't get it as often, you know. And then after you use one of your supers, all of your abilities are on cooldown. So you have to really like calm down, you know. That's a really good variation of a comeback mechanic. Like I did my super. I I fucking kicked your ass.
Starting point is 01:17:14 You're suffering a lot of damage. I got a big life lead. But the game is literally going to tell me, okay, fucking chill for a second. You used you used it. You did it. Now you now you everything has to recoup. Yeah. So so they found a way to cleverly implement like MOBA cooldown.
Starting point is 01:17:33 Yeah. Into a fight. It's interesting because this is I mean, it's obviously like a phone game with the RPGs and the gaches. And that there's a big chasm between those people in fight games. So it's interesting to see them taking like all sorts. Every fighting game that ArcSys has put out in the past like five years has had something in it. Some experiment to be like, let's see if we can get people make that a little easier to get. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:02 And they're all they're trying. And they rotate them around. They're trying stuff out. And you know what? Like they should be trying stuff out because it is a genre that that needs improvement. So like excuse me. I'm happy to see that they're trying things because like at the same time if they stayed the same like we would be happy to just play CVS to forever.
Starting point is 01:18:29 But like there's no growth there. There's no growth there at all. And like the stuff that I try to do every time I try to, you know, bring an audience into like into fighting games and through whether it's through to fucking fight or pedia or scrub lords or fisticuffs or get into fighting games now. Like every time I try to do this, like if there's nothing for them to land on, you know what I mean? There's no net for them to land on.
Starting point is 01:19:00 They're just going to jump into God knows why. The ultimate proof will be the fighting game that friend of the show Eli Plague of Grypes gets way into. Yeah, because if Eli can get through his mind goblins about inputs and shit to and to like enjoy something for even one second, that is an accomplishment. What will also be interesting is seeing the adventure mode where there's a side-scrolling beat them up sort of aspects to graphic fantasy versus resurrects from the dead. Yeah, but with RPG elements. Okay, well, I don't know how to use that word properly.
Starting point is 01:19:42 So you're right. I second guess myself every time. Yeah, but yeah, just like air guys. Sure, with let me just instead of saying that, let me just say with leveling up and stats and possibly items and such, you know. So the one thing that I will say that I am concerned about is that so you can learn one character and thus learn a lot of them because they're all very similar in. That sounds like Dragon Ball a bit, a bit, but not as much, but not as much.
Starting point is 01:20:17 Not as much. Well, no, almost the same actually. Because not like thinking about it, right? Like when you get, when you land a light attack, like the thing to do is going to be light, medium, heavy, and then you're special, right? And you're not going to have a ton of variety on that. Sounds like a system built to have a game with a fucking giant roster. Perhaps, right?
Starting point is 01:20:43 Grandblue has a, I mean, it's got a way bigger roster than you could fit into a fighting game. So like at the end of Dragon Ball, you still have like people doing not auto combos. They're doing like extended, yeah, customized stuff. And here you're pretty much getting like the string, you know, you're getting the combo that works, that does damage that you're used to and you're trying to continuously land that in different scenarios and like, again, there's some things you can do to switch it up or stall for time, like I mentioned earlier. But for the most part, you're getting A, B, C, one, two, three, you know, like you're
Starting point is 01:21:25 getting a set, a string, a set combo once people attack. And that is going to kind of, well, fighting game players want more variety than that. So that's something we'll have to see how it shapes up. But right now, that's the main thing about it that I'd say is like a little bit worrying is just that like it's very clear what your character's main combo is. And it's what they're supposed to do. And that's the combo you're going to do, you know. But anyway, yeah, so, you know, that was Granblue Fantasy Versus.
Starting point is 01:21:58 And then beyond that, I guess it's just Canada Cup in general. Yeah, since it was back in Calgary, it was much tinier this year and, you know, didn't have as many attendees as they usually do. But they still had, the tournaments all ran pretty smoothly, you know, things like, I think Friday there was like a delay on getting some setups. But like once they arrived, everything was pretty clear. And yeah, there was a lot of, you know, no names, a lot of top American and Japanese players and international players out there as well.
Starting point is 01:22:33 So it was pretty, yeah, it was pretty cool to just kind of like you know, hang out with a bunch of those folks and like watch them play some really great games. Wait, these attorneys are just fighting game confessions. Yeah. Right? Like, yeah. And it was also in a casino. So got to play some games.
Starting point is 01:22:50 I learned the ways of Baccarat. I don't know what the fuck Baccarat is. Baccarat is really, honestly, it's just, it's like an even simpler version of Blackjack because you have no control over it, right? Baccarat is a fact. Does that just make it a slot machine with cards? It's like Baccarat is like there's player, there's three things you can bet on, player, banker and tie.
Starting point is 01:23:14 And player, the dealer flips two cards. And then for the player, the dealer flips two cards for the banker. And then you add the numbers up and whatever the second digit is, is the number that you have. That's it. That's it. Jesus. Now, the only thing is there's a, that's the simplicity of it. There's an, there's a complicated extra factor, which is depending on how low the number is
Starting point is 01:23:43 for, for either, they can draw a third card. Sure. And then you add that together, right? And if obviously it's a face card, it's worth zero. So you just add the numbers you see, you know, and then you can bet on it being a tie. So that's, that's, it's, you know, and like, so that third card rule is what makes it slightly in the dealer's favor, because otherwise it would just be a raw 5050. It's gotta be in the dealer's favor.
Starting point is 01:24:10 Yeah. And it sounds like a raw 5050 until you add that factor. And then it becomes a 49 or a 48 to 52 type of thing. And whatever it is, your fucking money disappears. I'll tell you what, like, so, yeah. Where'd my money go? And even though it all ends up being kind of the same, you like games where you feel like you have more control over it.
Starting point is 01:24:30 Yeah. So Blackjack is always like something that, you know, Craps is also a really high statistic winner for you because the dealer gets, the house gets less of an advantage there. But and Craps is also really fun because I think I talked about it in the podcast before, but everybody wins together. Yeah. You know, unless you decide to bet against everybody, in which case they all lose and you win.
Starting point is 01:24:54 So you can do that too. Yeah. But it's a co-op game. So, yeah. You know, I had some like some of the best fall I've ever had in my life out there. Yeah. That's really not what I would expect of the like the parries, honestly. They had amazing Tonkinny soup.
Starting point is 01:25:14 And yeah, I guess just, you know, congrats to Jimmy on seventh place. Congrats to Flux Waves for getting second in Mortal Kombat. And yeah, me for getting a ninth. Top 10. Top eight is the real term that matters, but I suppose it is top 10. Yeah, top 10. Sure. Anyway, so that was fighting games.
Starting point is 01:25:41 And I guess. Oh, yeah. And then outside of that, uh, there's so just, yeah, there's going to be more as far as what's going up on my channel. There's going to be more indivisible. I've hit the credits on Astral Chain. Yeah, right. So Astral Chain is finished.
Starting point is 01:26:09 And how do you like that last hit, that last sequence against the final boss? It was rad. And then I immediately got pumped down. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I was super awesome, but then I was pumped down that that's where it cut. Okay. I didn't want it to cut there.
Starting point is 01:26:29 Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to basically, for me, I'm, yeah, I don't feel the same way. I feel that this is a strong platinum game, but I don't think it's their best. Okay. You know, that's, that's where it lines for me. And I respect the shit out of how ambitious it is, because it does a lot of things that they've never done before. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:55 A lot while retreading a bunch of what they're familiar with. And so like, I get that this is like, okay, we're going to give it a first try. So yeah, it goes, you know, and some of it landed, some of it didn't. But in the end, it's still definitely something that I would recommend people pick up and play. It's interesting because at the point that you're at when to beat it, the game turns into a way more straightforward action game in that there appears to be just as much if not more content of just straight levels at the, in the post game than there is in the, in the prior of all the platinum games that are out there, I would say that this one has
Starting point is 01:27:31 the highest chance of people bouncing off of it compared to others. If it's not like, if it has, well, bouncing off, it's a fun term because most people just look at a platinum game, don't buy it. Right. But, but, but I mean that like the way it starts out. And it starts out weird. Yeah. And I start, and I spoke to a couple people this weekend who, who reflected that too. Oh no, I spoke to people as well. You know, I even spoke to somebody and she was like, is this game fun?
Starting point is 01:27:59 Yeah. Like just beat the second level. Yeah. And then they did. And they're like, oh yeah. But there will be some people that are just like, I don't want to clean up this gunk. I don't want to throw these cans out. I don't want to do these dumpside missions.
Starting point is 01:28:11 You know, like some people will just be like, not about that at all, you know. And some people will just be like, this combat is, I can't follow it, you know. So it has the highest chance of people possibly being like, this is not for me. But if it is for you, then it's, it is quite good. But it's, it's not their best. It has some flaws, you know. But yeah, still a definite for the switch library. You want that.
Starting point is 01:28:38 Yeah. You want that in your, in your. In your downloads. Definitely has the most content on a platinum game. Oh yeah. Near is pretty high. But yeah, this probably. Yeah, this probably edges it out.
Starting point is 01:28:56 Yeah. Yeah. I'd say so. Yeah. Maybe. Well, anyway. So yeah, that'll be, that'll be wrapping up this week, actually. So you can tune in for the explosive finale.
Starting point is 01:29:12 Really cool parts of that final boss fight that I liked a lot. The same parts that final boss is super stupid. Yeah. It's like it's. And then. Like many platinum bosses. Indivisible continues, of course. And I can't remember the last time a game through parties members
Starting point is 01:29:38 at you so quick and so liberally, even in the short time I played, that was probably my favorite thing about it. It's, it doesn't stop. How many are there? Do you know? Oh God, I have to. I have almost two pages of characters now. Like it's so many.
Starting point is 01:29:53 I don't know how many are there in total, but like I'm getting those like chronocross vibes of just. Yeah, here's another one. CC is the last game that I can think of that that felt that way. But here's another one. It didn't give them to you as fast, you know. And then there's and then there's the ones where you don't get them right away, but they show up and you see they have a portrait.
Starting point is 01:30:14 Yep. And you're like, oh, then so that even so that has happened like two or three times now where it's like someone has shown up and it's like, okay, yep, I see you. There you are. And then they're like, yeah, I'll catch you guys later. I got my own shit to do. And you're like, fuck. You know, Naga Ryder jumped in, did his thing and then pieced out and like, God damn it.
Starting point is 01:30:35 You know, really? Yeah. I would have been so pissed if I was still playing in that happen because he's he was the one I want. It's not the time yet. Now is not the time, you know. So yeah, that continues. And traversal is, you know, getting a lot of options, a lot of fun stuff.
Starting point is 01:30:54 I'm continuing to really have a lot of fun with it. So that can that's over on Willy versus, of course, again, I'm going to be starting new stuff to to cycle in what's going on. I'm going to try to figure out how to handle like, like we were talking about like considering things like Disco Elysium and whatnot. Well, you want to hear something really funny? This week features the two games most likely to kill LP slash stream footage time. Disco Elysium and Death Stranding, which from all I was recently on the level clear
Starting point is 01:31:31 podcast, which you should check out, which I spoke to tough man who played, beat and reviewed Death Stranding is fantastic. And everything he said about it was like, boy, my stream on Friday is going to be boring as shit, huh? Like just takes about five to 10 hours to really get into the heart of it. And it's like, yeah, that's that's going to be interesting. Oh, man, we'll get we'll get into that a little bit later on the docket. But yeah, that is that is also dropping this week.
Starting point is 01:32:06 I was going to bring up the fact that yesterday I had a really good time. We we did get into fighting games. Jimmy Bones came over with Reggie and I had one Esteban from hold back to block from no clip. And, you know, excuse me, fighting game documentarian did the spooky documentary, you know, did a bunch of other stuff and is currently working on a feature length K.I. documentary as well for Killer Instinct. So that's very cool. He came in and we did get into Vampire Savior, aka Darkstalkers.
Starting point is 01:32:45 And so that like Darkstalkers as a fighting game has always been like virtual fighter for 2D. So I fucking hate Darkstalkers. So what this means is virtual fighter is is everyone knows it's a really technical, complicated game. It's above your level of understanding. It's above your pay grade. And people who play it are in Mensa. So so Darkstalkers is like Capcom's first hyper game. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:17 Before the Marvel versus Capcom series before the versus series. So this is them just going ape shit with no understanding of what the rules even should be. And this game is full of so much bullshit that it is. This is the this is this is Daigo. Daigo came from like Daigo's origins were with this game. Sacco, Haitani, these really great Japanese players came from this game. They're they're huge on it because it's full like everyone in the cast, even the worst characters have bullshit, you know.
Starting point is 01:33:50 And the systems are just they're 20 years old and they're confusing. And just or 30 20 or 30 however old they are, you know, at this point, I think it's 20. So it's got to be right. And I'll give that old and just I'm just to give you a taste of how obtuse fighting games used to be with games like Darkstalkers, right? Okay, so hey, woolly, you don't know what it used to be like back in Monster Hunter 2. You don't know what it used to be like. So if you were playing Vampire Savior and you want to do a push block, right?
Starting point is 01:34:31 Yeah. Push block is someone hits you and then you knock them away from you so that they go back midway to fuck off me, right? And they back up about midway from the screen from where you are. So that you can like take a breather, you know, in a lot of Marvel versus Capcom games, you just have to hit two punches. It's very easy while you're blocking, right? In this game, while you're blocking, you have to hit.
Starting point is 01:34:59 Okay, so you have to hit buttons, right? The first two buttons you hit do nothing. All right. Doesn't matter what two buttons you hit, they do nothing. The third button you hit has a 25% chance. Fuck off. Go fuck yourself. Probability of pushing the person back.
Starting point is 01:35:21 Go fuck yourself. The fourth button you hit has a 50% chance. The fifth button you hit has a 75% chance. And the sixth button you hit has a 100% chance of push blocking and pushing the person back. On every six buttons in blocks done is a lot. Yes, it is. But I'm not done. The button you end on slash the button that causes it because you don't know which of those inputs.
Starting point is 01:35:52 So if if six buttons means 100%, that means if you do, if you input six buttons, all six, that means you're going to get it 100% of the time. Sure. But you might get it as soon as the third button. Okay. The button that you get it on, whether that's light, medium or heavy pushes them back a little bit. Oh my God. A bit more or a whole lot.
Starting point is 01:36:22 That's nonsense. That's fucking nonsense. So you actually have this complete RNG probability based push block system. How far they're going to go if they're going to go. And because the game is so fast and unforgiving, you need people to get off of you constantly. So you're always mashing buttons when you're in blocks done. And that always going variable distances and they're going variable distances. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:36:54 That's dumb. It's crazy. That's that's awful. That's oh my God. Now, because this is what you're thinking of doing whenever someone touches you and gets in on you, there's a thing you can do in fighting games called a shimmy. And what a shimmy is is where you walk in and you pretend you're going to hit them and then you back up a little bit and then they panic and they do something.
Starting point is 01:37:20 So they'll try to throw you, for example. And then you can fuck them up. Or they try to do an uppercut and you just go like, well, right, I walked in and I walked out. It's a little wiggle. Right. The little wiggle. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:37:29 Right. And so if you do a shimmy in this game where you walk in, like you're going to hit them and then you walk out and they were thinking about mashing buttons. Oh, they'll just throw bullshit at you. They start. They literally just start mashing and you didn't do anything. And then they die. So it's really, really, really hard to get good at this game.
Starting point is 01:37:55 And it's really brutal because it's so old and archaic. And that's the kind of nonsense that we got up to yesterday. So if you want to have fucked up and explains why I hate dark stalkers, because I played some dark stalkers and every time I touched it, I'd come away bruised and confused. There's infinite bar in that game, which means you can get up to level 99. Oh, it doesn't even matter. And you can get up to level 99 super bar and everything.
Starting point is 01:38:24 Nothing freezes the screen. Everything just happens right away. Oh, man, it's so fucking screen. Please. Yeah, people are saying loot blocks. Exactly. Like it's super brutal with that too. So anyway, if you just want to get a taste of that nonsense and all of it is explained
Starting point is 01:38:45 to me and the guys for the first time by Esteban on the stream. So like right along with you. You weren't familiar with this. At all. I didn't know any of this stuff and we were introduced to it. So come for a ride through this nonsense journey to the past with us on getting to fighting games, Vampire Savior, which is going to be, which is up on the, the, my Twitch on Moly versus,
Starting point is 01:39:05 and you can check it out on the YouTube as well. Boy, boy, we've come a long way. Older fighting games were aggressive in their levels of obfuscation. Like it was always on this level of like, it's not like, oh, it's a hidden secret for people to discover. It's like, we don't want anyone to ever figure this out. I mean, they would give you some things, but like, it came from like, hey, a fireball is a secret in Street Fighter one.
Starting point is 01:39:32 Yeah. So once that became common knowledge, what's the next level of secrecy? Dive it deep. You know, and a game like that, there's so much secret. My favorite ever, ever is, did you know that when you do shingo super in 98, there's like a one in a million chance that there'll be a single spark. He'll get a little bit of fire. And it will just kill the opponent.
Starting point is 01:39:56 I don't know about that. No, I don't think the damage. Oh, it doesn't change the damage. I don't think the damage thing is real, but there's a chance that you'll see fire. I remember hearing about that. Yeah. Um, yeah, man. It's all about the, it was, because these games, here's what you have to remember.
Starting point is 01:40:13 Like they made money are based on those secrets. Yeah. Right. Like that was marketing. So people whispering about what you might see or what someone might be able to do in this game that you have to pay a quarter to play led to massive profit. That's when Mortal Kombat built its empire on. You know, on BM, built an empire on BM.
Starting point is 01:40:39 Um, funny how that got commonized as, as bad manners because to me, BM's just meant bowel movements. Yeah. But anyway, uh, I'm going to blame. League of legends for that one. That feels like a league thing feels like a British thing. I don't have any bad manners. That does feel like British things suck it.
Starting point is 01:41:03 Uh, anyway. So like, um, da, da, da, da, da, talked about that, talked about Vsav. That's on the thing. Yeah, we're, that's about, that's about all that's interesting to say. Hey, where do people check your crap out, man? I said it a couple of times. Say it again.
Starting point is 01:41:21 Fuck it. Wally versus. There you go. That's what I'm trying to do. Yeah, that's good. Uh, let's take a quick word from our sponsor. Let's take a quick word from our sponsor. Thank you.
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Starting point is 01:43:24 Because sometimes there's smaller details that matter and you need to know those details as you go into a particular case. But the core idea needs to be communicated and that's what the highlight is for. I still don't get it. Okay, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. This is, this is something I've been tackling since I went to the university. But it's, we, like we talked about it with video games today, right?
Starting point is 01:43:51 Like we talked about the part where like, um, don't jump at this character is the highlight. And then you don't have to think about much else until you're, when you're facing that character, which might be a patient at a hospital, in which case it's like, okay, well that don't jump turns into a lot of these finer little details. Yeah, but just remember all of it. Just remember all of it. But you can't remember all of it. There's a human limit to what your brain will internalize.
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Starting point is 01:46:56 Last but not least, we got to get real. How real do we need to get? As real as you can possibly get. Okay. I'm going to talk about the state of your balls, Pat. I'm going to tell you right now this conversation is not going to go the way you think it's going to go. Well, look, I don't know about you, but one thing we've discussed quite a few times in the past is
Starting point is 01:47:31 the nature of the undercarriage. That's right. And the suffering that comes from having your undercarriage flop about. In fact, from having it exist. Yeah, it's not great. Yeah, it's not great. So what can you do to deal with the problems that come? Well, I mean, one of the solutions is you could with ungroomed sweaty balls.
Starting point is 01:47:55 You could walk off camera, grab the bottom of your ball sack and flap it around to hit the air resistance while people on here on stream literally hear your balls hit like this. You could do that and batwing yourself. Batwing. Yes, that's a term page invented from when I do that. That's something. Yeah, it's bad. You can always try to find your way to a bathroom stall and pull your pants off and do cloud squats
Starting point is 01:48:22 to try and air it out. That sucks. It's not great. It's not great. So that's why there's manscaped. Um, manscaped offers precision engineered tools for your family jewels. Look, ball stink. You should trim them.
Starting point is 01:48:48 You should groom them. You should take care of them. If your armpit smells bad, what do you do? You put on deodorant. Yeah, you take care of it, right? Other parts of your body smell bad, right? My balls don't smell. Okay.
Starting point is 01:49:01 Well, a lot of people, it's a thing you need to worry about. So you should do something about it. And I'll be, I'll be quite honest. There's not a whole lot for me to do. Um, I'm nearly, nearly full body, hairless naturally. It's fucking gross. It is. Page mocks me constantly for my child, hairless body.
Starting point is 01:49:20 The point, the point is, is ultimately that like, you know, even sometimes when like the underneath of the back of your knee, like the little in your knee pit, you're like, ah, it's getting, gotta air that out, right? What? Or like when you are, you ever like sit down for too long and then you get up and then you're just like, oh man, my ass is like swampy. Yeah, that's not good. No, right?
Starting point is 01:49:43 That sucks. Um, and let's, and like, you want to get really real. We're kind of chunky, right? We're not in there's some creases where there shouldn't be. Those creases tend to get a little hot. Yeah. Right. You got to take care of that.
Starting point is 01:49:58 All of those post stream shower, get the creases out. All of those, all of those creases, pale in comparison to how bad it gets down there when the ball stank starts to come out. So manscaped is here. It's changing us from the game human nightmare with the perfect package 2.0. Inside the perfect package, you'll find an electric trimmer called the lawnmower 2.0. It's waterproof, skin safe technology, protects you from nicking your sack. Can also create less mess by trimming in the shower.
Starting point is 01:50:31 Of course, let's not forget about the crop preserver. It's an anti-chafing ball deodorant. Are you fucking for real? Dead serious. Oh my goodness. And moisturizer. You'll find out in the box they sent you. I know, but will they give me a fucking box over there and he's like, it's got this on your balls.
Starting point is 01:50:46 It's got ball deodorant in it and it's got moisturizer. You already put deodorant on your armpits. Why not put deodorant on the smelliest part of your body? You know what's great about the ball deodorant? Once you've established that that's what your balls smell like, you just use that deodorant at random parts of the house and make family members think that you've rubbed your balls on things. Waft.
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Starting point is 01:51:41 it's all about keeping it fresh, you know? Like a spring meadow. Yeah, you don't want to be in that state where... We've come a long way from pointing a can of axe at your testicles. Indeed, we have. That's a bad idea. Don't do that. That's terrible.
Starting point is 01:51:57 Never do that. Only villains do that. But you don't want to be in that state where your life is in that place where when you sit down, you can even smell yourself a little bit. If that happens, you need to get to a shower. That's don't let that happen to you. Don't let it happen, right? Don't become a walking yeast infection.
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Starting point is 01:52:46 at manscaped.com. So you know what this whole story reminds me of? Thank you, Manscaped. Thank you, Manscaped. That you know what this whole thing reminds me of? It reminds me of once when I was a young man and I was like, Christ, that must have been like 12. I was like, I was looking at my mom's razor in the shower.
Starting point is 01:53:10 I'm like, how does that even work? That can't be no good like a man razor. And I'm like, I just put it on my leg and dragged like an inch. And sure enough, all the hair on my leg just zooped. Yeah. And then I had a fucking candy bar rectangle sized fucking gap of perfectly clear skin next to a bunch of hair. And I went, shit, maybe I can even it out.
Starting point is 01:53:42 So my entire right leg is shaved, right? How'd that work out? And then I'm like, well, I gotta do the other one. What am I going to just have one shaved leg? Everyone will notice. Everyone will notice. So I'm in gym class the next day because of course the next day is in gym class.
Starting point is 01:54:05 And one of the kids just looks at me and just goes, did you shave your fucking legs? No, of course not. That would be silly. And then I skipped the next gym class. You sure did. And no one was the wiser until now. You didn't have one of those schools where you could wear long shorts.
Starting point is 01:54:28 Nah, had to be had to be shorts and t-shirt. Well, that's unfortunate. News. Oh, hold on. I had two other things I wanted to talk about. Oh, yeah, sure. How's other worlds? Great, but who cares?
Starting point is 01:54:48 The near raid came out for 14. Not much to say other than, you saw me send you the music? Yes. The music's fucking incredible. I would imagine. And in fact, I did hear that this is actual lore. It is super canon. Your hostile.
Starting point is 01:55:06 Stage play. Somewhere in there. It starts to pee. The soul caliber character. That's awesome as your main as your main point of contact. It also features on spice. It also she's not. She is not.
Starting point is 01:55:27 She is exactly the same skin tone as to be. They changed it. They didn't change it. It's a something. It's apparently a quirk of the fucking soul caliber lighting engine. Supposedly. But she was darker and then she had black hair and in the end game. She's like more tan or whatever the fuck.
Starting point is 01:55:47 I don't know. I'm going off of what I've been told. What kind of when you play in cowardice. When you play it, you're like, hmm. That is bullshit blazing. Yeah, fuck that. I like the fact that she had that little 10. I like the black hair and I like the white dress.
Starting point is 01:56:06 Yeah, well. I wanted the brown spice. Yeah. Well, that sucks. Oh, okay. On the plus side, the song of the ancients is the boss theme in that thing. Like and then there's the final boss, which I sent you a thing. I posted that track.
Starting point is 01:56:24 It's called way of the world prelude because it has the final fancy theme hidden in it because the fucking final boss of that raid is a massive fuck spoiler. Which nobody really expected going in that there would be anything of that nature. In fact, I'm going to text Willie right now. I was planning to like check out of a video of someone playing through it. Okay. Well, you just check out my stream. It's like an hour.
Starting point is 01:56:50 Okay. But it goes in me and Clems talking about it. It goes in. I think it's in between automata and near. Like that. Interesting. The other thing is that the part we all wanted to know more about. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:17 The other thing is that they do something really cool that none of the other FF14 raids have done is that once you've beaten it, it says, hey, go back into the raid with no enemies, no anything. Just explore. Just go look at stuff. Go find text documents that you can read and they even give you a little near automata menu system that is like the automata UI and it loads up the same and all sorts of cool shit. They put so much goddamn work into it. Yoko.
Starting point is 01:57:47 Yes, Yoko worked on it. Okabe did the did the arrangement for the music, I think. And one of the producers from near automata also worked on it. It has resulted in something really weird, though, which is everybody gets their near outfits. Everybody gets the 9S and similar outfits. The 2B outfit is just straight up a drop at the end. Men and women can wear the 2B outfit. And the legs for the 2B outfit straight up give female characters bigger asses.
Starting point is 01:58:25 Ok. Because people have joked about a butt slider in 14 because everybody's super flat. Yeah. But your body is actually part of the items you equip. Didn't I ask about this? I believe you might have. And when you equip the thighs associated with that, if you're playing a female character, you get a way bigger ass.
Starting point is 01:58:48 And the thighs go with almost every single piece of gear in the entire game. Because they're not the feet, they're not the chest, they're the legs. I like that. That's good. That's very good. And people are running that raid fucking 24-7. Because the 24 man raid and only three of those 2B gear sets drop. And people are just fighting tooth and nail over it.
Starting point is 01:59:18 It's fucking hilarious. I'm a fan of that. Very excited to see where this is going to go. I have a sneaking suspicion there will be near and dragon guard stuff. There was probably the wildest thing was there was an actual for real bug that happened the day of release in which a red dragon complaining about their lost love would load into the final boss fight. And everybody thought it was a reference to Angelus.
Starting point is 01:59:49 And then they immediately hot fixed it that day going, no, that's a real bug. That is a real mistake. And they broke down. That is an NPC from this quest line. The reason why it showed up is because we swap items to load things. They had to explain the bad because no one would have believed it if they didn't give a real technical explanation because it was so on the money, so on the money. Holy, it was so ridiculous.
Starting point is 02:00:22 Yeah, that is the most like that's really unfortunate because like even hearing that I'm like, wait, we're going back there. Yeah, we're going back there. Okay, on the other hand, on the other side of things, I brought an Xbox controller. You everybody's familiar with this. It's a regular Xbox controller. He is holding up an Xbox one controller. It's the white one.
Starting point is 02:00:46 Yeah, it's pretty normal. They're all right. I see where this is going. Yeah, you see where it's going? Yeah. Did you? You did, didn't you? Okay, here we got.
Starting point is 02:00:57 Yeah. Here we have the fucking second batch of the Xbox Elite, which is the white ones they made. Yep. They're pretty good. They got the rubber on the bottom. They have the hair lock triggers, right? They have the little flippy switch in the middle. I never actually used those ones.
Starting point is 02:01:18 Oh, you never used these here? Yeah. There. Ah. Okay, so this is the Elite version two? No. This is that's the second production batch of the Elite version one. Okay, feels like it's not going to turn into a grease factory.
Starting point is 02:01:38 Yeah, that's a fuck. I dropped shit all over. Yeah, feels like an elite, but with although the rubber might still. Yeah, you know, so cool. Okay, just put that down. Yeah. A few days ago, the second Elite actually came out and this is genuinely new. There's a couple things that I've been fucking around with this.
Starting point is 02:02:03 And well, if you pick that one up, you're going to notice when you when you grab the triggers, they're squishy, they kind of more give to them than you would expect. That ended up being a design defect and that those fucking things break. That's the point of failure on those. Yes. They do have the tightening sliders that allow you to make them. No, not the triggers, the bumpers. Sorry, the bumpers.
Starting point is 02:02:25 The bumpers, do you feel how they've give to them? They're like, once you press them in, they go a bit further. Yeah, those fucking break. This thing, the bumpers have been returned to a more clicky style. However, they put texturing on the trigger. There is actual like, I'll give it to you in a second. They put texturing on the chair and they made a small indentation on the right and left bumper so that your index finger rests in them more comfortably.
Starting point is 02:02:58 Oh, that's nice. Yeah, okay. Right. They also added a second level of the hair trigger to the back, which turns the triggers off like it turns them completely the fuck off. They have added the ability to tighten the resistance on the sticks or loosen them so they can be as loose as like dual shocks or as tight as like a piece of fucking shit like an arcade stick.
Starting point is 02:03:24 So the bottom option in the back turns it off completely. Yeah, they become non-buttons. They also, if you click in the Xbox button, it's now a click instead of a mush. Oh, yeah. Which I actually very appreciate. Yeah, the mush was terrible. Here, let me hold it back. Hand it back to me for that.
Starting point is 02:03:49 It has the dumb paddles on the back, which are really only good for shooters. Oh, fucking shit. Why did I put it so far? No, why'd you put it so far? It's not even that far. It's not it. I have really tiny bitch arms. Okay, the fucking thing comes with so this this case opens in the back
Starting point is 02:04:14 like for a plug to go in because it comes with a charging dock and the charging dock can sit in its own case. Oh, that's nice because it has an internal battery. Now you can charge it from just the case. Yeah, because yeah, it has no external battery now, but I'm going to tighten this up for you. So that you can get a decent idea of what the fuck I'm talking about. So when you you were fucking with it just now, it was it was medium looseness on the sticks.
Starting point is 02:04:51 Here you go. The left one's now maximum tightness and the right one's on maximum looseness. Interesting, right? Very slight though. Yeah, well, I mean, it's not going to be crazy different. It could be. Yeah, it could be overall. Wow, that's a fancy controller.
Starting point is 02:05:11 Don't like that it has a built in battery. Oh, yeah. But yeah, so that's always going to do what it does. And the front. Yeah, built in battery. No, the rubber grip shit actually goes around to the front. I've been using it for a couple of days. Okay, it's a fantastic controller.
Starting point is 02:05:30 What I said to somebody yesterday after I talked about it on Twitter. But is it worth two hundred dollars? No, of course it's not. What are you stupid? I'm stupid. This is a fucking bougie controller for assholes, which is why I bought one. But like, no, it's an absurd waste of money.
Starting point is 02:05:56 It's it's fucking dumb. What do you what do you like you crazy? You didn't buy multiple video games for the cost of this controller. Like what is Willy doing? I don't I'm afraid I'm afraid he's going to kill me. Bumpers are nice. I've actually been using these fucking stupid paddles on the back. I thought they were for assholes,
Starting point is 02:06:18 but then being able to actually jump in destiny without having to take my right thumbstick off the what do you call these analog sticks was actually very appreciated. I've noticed it hasn't gotten quite as sweat grimy as the one that I used to have. So weird changing the the the stick tension with this fucking sim card looking thing. It's interesting that you oh no the mouse has killed the podcast. Overall, yeah, it's a really good feeling. Really good feeling controller top to bottom feels very well made.
Starting point is 02:07:04 You were saying it's interesting that you brought these in for feeling and review. I actually thought you were going to pull a stadia controller out of there. Oh man, because the last time we did this, it was with the steam controller. Oh, well, I mean, I don't have access to a stadia currently. And I'm not too excited about doing that. I don't really give a shit. So yeah, but it is funny because I've been meaning you just reminded me to I also have controllers to talk about.
Starting point is 02:07:33 You do. I do. What do you got? Well, so you got those. What is happening on your end of the the shit? It's you know what? I don't even know what that is. Are we still live?
Starting point is 02:07:43 We yes, we're fine. It's fine. So you got that. So that's the elite to that they were advertising, right? And you can still switch out the sticks and do all that stuff. Oh, yeah. I know it comes with a little bunch of weirdo sticks here at the bottom. It's got the PlayStation style one.
Starting point is 02:08:01 It's got a tall one. Okay. Well, the bougie controller hour continues. Yeah. Oh, what was this? Does this stuff? This right here is a custom controller. Oh, custom that I got.
Starting point is 02:08:12 I ordered and I'm I was waiting to see how it worked out. And it has worked out great. So I am proud to, you know, let people know about battle beaver customs because Hayate the MK player gave me a gave me a heads up about these guys. Basically, they need to be favorite hand me that one. Yeah, they do. They make custom controllers and they modify them in tons of ways. And I want like, yeah, I'm like, if this wasn't great, I was going to be like,
Starting point is 02:08:42 maybe I'll wait, you know, maybe not necessarily say anything, but they've been fantastic. So this I got a case for it. It's a PS4 controller comes with pretty good quality wire. And as you can see, you're some kind of asshole. As you can see, I have decided to customize it to my liking. Transparent purple plastic, right? So atomic purple with the green, right?
Starting point is 02:09:09 Now here's, but that's not what matters, right? Here's what matters. I'm going to hand this to you. All right. Give me a second. All right. Now you talked about you talked about the your triggers and your sticks. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:22 I want you to play with this for a little bit. I'm putting controllers away. Just give me one more. Yeah. Here's my Joker controller. Thanks, Doc. This controller lives in a society. Let's all right.
Starting point is 02:09:35 All right. Let's fuck around with this. Okay. Okay. The the select pad or whatever the fuck is the same. Yeah, that's fine. That's all. The pad feels normal buttons on the face.
Starting point is 02:09:46 Oh, these are very different sticks. Those are very different. These are very resistant. Very resistant. These are made out of something different type of plastic. Yeah, sure. Face buttons just don't have the the markers on them. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:01 Face buttons are just nice and solid. Clickers, clickers, baby. These are like these are like dip switches on the fucking on the triggers on the triggers and R1 and L1. This is interesting. This is the very similar. This is the this is like I only want the one option version of the the hair trigger lock. But those have too much give.
Starting point is 02:10:23 Well, yeah, that's why they made them shorter give on the second one, but they still want them to be triggers on the command. But this is like, no fuck it. That gets rid of all of that. We got the clickers in place. Those are I don't know if you can hear this. Hold on a sec. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:37 Those are dip switches. Those are the best, right? Because in especially in any games where it doesn't matter that you feel like a gun trigger, it doesn't matter. There's no analog to the input. It doesn't matter. I just want a button, man. I don't want a gas pedal.
Starting point is 02:10:52 I want a button. This is what matters. And I'm playing fighting games with this thing. It's fucking fantastic. So customizing customizing these triggers to just click like that is wonderful, right? It's interesting because we're coming at these at different angles, right? I bought a high end general purpose thing for lots of things. You decided to go custom because you want this to do the one thing at the absolute ideal.
Starting point is 02:11:19 I do. But I also wanted to experiment with the other things it did, right? And so they because they customize the controller in a lot of ways. They have other things I didn't do, like put buttons on the back, just like the elite. That's for shooters, man. That's everything that the elite does. You can pretty much do with the battle beaver, right? Oh, yeah, people are.
Starting point is 02:11:38 You like that ASMR? It's good. Yeah, it feels good, too. And of course, it's the good case and all that stuff. I wanted to but I didn't know how it was going to feel. So I went in for two. Yeah. And on the second one, I kept a lot of the same, but I added one major difference.
Starting point is 02:11:57 And this one, by the way, I've full on. I wanted a toy from the 90s. Yeah, OK. This is the color scheme is red. I'm thinking red and yellow. No, no. Oh, oh, oh, man. That's Fisher Price.
Starting point is 02:12:11 I wanted a Fisher Price toy. Yeah, that is that is that is dead on. Right. Yeah. So I went. It's it's also green and purple. That's fucking Play-Doh. But with the big old yellow in the middle.
Starting point is 02:12:21 That's fucking hilarious. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me get hold of this. This one. There's one difference between what I just handed you between the first controller and this Nickelodeon one right here. And you should be after holding the elites. These are like two differences.
Starting point is 02:12:37 Hilariously light. No. That one is here. Let me hand you this again. Yeah, this. No, you're right. You're right. This has no rumble.
Starting point is 02:12:48 Yeah, I can. Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah, you had the fucking rumbles. They pulled. They pulled the rumble out. So it's a lighter controller. Much lighter. Less than half of the original weight.
Starting point is 02:13:00 Right. So that's the first thing about it. Sticks are not. Oh, that's a different D pad. These are individualized D pad buttons. Instead of a rotating under the thing sphere. So which would allow you to hit up and down at the same time. But if you did that, they just go back to neutral.
Starting point is 02:13:17 Sure. But it physically allows you to do it physically. Instead of a rotating circle on the other. This one is this feels like a fucking toy because there's no way to wait. There's no way to it. This is like four or five of these would weigh as much as one elite. That's hilarious. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:35 The rumbles add all the weight to these controllers. Yeah, absolutely. 100%. They're just empty plastic without them. And like a single circuit board and a couple soldering. But that D pad divides. They cut the D pad into four separate input buttons that are not connected. So that you have to press them separately like a WASD keyboard.
Starting point is 02:13:55 And this thing is crazy. That allows for precision in some depending on how you whether you like the feeling or not. It's up to you. I found they both work. They both work fine. And I felt like I could get used to that. He says the normal resistance on the sticks. Normal resistance.
Starting point is 02:14:15 Yeah, because these don't feel nearly as tight. And then the same upgraded triggers as well. This thing is fucking crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. I love it. But like I'm going to stick with it. What fucking good timing.
Starting point is 02:14:26 Yeah. You just had all these around. Yeah. Then they got it. They got it shipped really quickly as well. So they were pretty awesome with it. So what's the turnaround time on that? I got these in like a week.
Starting point is 02:14:35 That's way faster than I would have expected. I know that they don't necessarily always deliver on that. Like I think they kind of rushed ordered this. But they did it. And so the way it works is when you go there. There's your how you're going to be an Octopimp right there. Yeah. When you get when you get your when you go to the website and they have a builder for it,
Starting point is 02:14:54 like each modification costs whatever X. And then you the more you add, the more the price varies. So how much did those cost you? So I put everything, custom colors, decked on it, whatever. And yeah, these were like these were around 200. Yeah. Right. Like because I like I went all in on it.
Starting point is 02:15:13 But if you just sell fucking GameCube controllers on this website, if you wanted to just grab a default controller and just add your trigger tightners, you could do that for five extra bucks and that'd be it. You know. So yeah, it's all in how much you want to customize the most or the least. I figure if I'm going to go through the trouble, might as well have some fun with the color. If you're going to get something weird and custom like this, go get the weird and custom.
Starting point is 02:15:39 Yeah. Get a fucking Nickelodeon controller, you know, and it's like it's super light. And then yeah, and the protective case on it is quite nice as well. So that's what's up. Although the and for those of you wondering about the D pad, again, you cannot input two directions at the same time. It will stop you. It will just treat it as if it were neutral.
Starting point is 02:16:01 So it's not you. There's no there's nothing you can do with this that you cannot do with like a normal controller. It's basically the same as a hitbox. Right. So in a hitbox, when you use those, the reason why hitboxes are legal in fighting games is because yeah, you press left and you press right and then the stick assumes you're in the middle of the two of them.
Starting point is 02:16:21 This is exactly that. So yeah, man, I'm very happy with the quality of the controllers. I'm very happy with the the wires, which you could get a shorter or longer one. Seems like you're kind of going through it. You're kind of browsing through the website right now. This is this is fascinating. There's also a prebuilt section in which they're like here's like the not the recommended, but here's like a default template that has like the rumble.
Starting point is 02:16:48 You want to rumble out? You want some rear buttons? Yeah, done. I didn't know what I wanted. So I had to go for two separate ones that all had different features on them. And like if I ever do need a replacement, now I kind of know what I want. I'm going to go. It's it's it's all about those triggers.
Starting point is 02:17:05 Yeah, it's the most important part. Funnest part about the Xbox Elite controller is that after I plugged it in and restarted my computer, I couldn't get back to the desktop for a few hours because a USB conflict and a Windows update happened simultaneously and I just safe mode that shit and fucking do all sorts of recovery parts. The plugging the fucking controller and all this in my computer. Thanks Microsoft. Yeah, probably works a little more stably on the Xbox.
Starting point is 02:17:34 Yeah. So there you go. Big shill. Big plug. What's that website? Battle Beaver Customs. Battle Beaver Customs. Is that Canadian?
Starting point is 02:17:41 No, I think they're from Texas. Damn it. Because I had Beaver and I was like, oh yeah, I hope so too. But big plug for for making a quality product that I was happy with. Okay, so you know what? I'm going to take a little second. The hair trigger locks on this and the buttons on that for the triggers are a big deal. They've become a bigger deal with me over the past couple of years.
Starting point is 02:18:10 You remember you played Black Flag, Assassin's Creed 4 Black Flag? You love the ships? Yeah. You run a lot in that game and you hold down that trigger a lot. Yeah. I got a no shit minor case of frozen shoulder playing that game. My shoulder started to lock up. Every AC game, actually, you hold down the trigger.
Starting point is 02:18:33 Because just the fucking just holding the trigger down permanently for hours. And 14 uses triggers to turn on abilities or not. So you're constantly, constantly, constantly, constantly. I get finger cramps now if I use the regular Xbox controller to shoot gun in video game many long time. Okay. So the magic of a Dark Souls game is that you're never actually swinging your sword that often? No, you're not.
Starting point is 02:19:01 But in Astral Chain you are. Yeah, you are. That game is trigger nonsense the whole time. You're completely right. So yeah, you want comfort on that. You're completely right. But yeah, no, having these options available, even if they're expensive for dumb assholes like ourselves, like ever since I've been using this Xbox controller, I now play 14
Starting point is 02:19:27 with an Xbox controller instead of a PlayStation one. And it's better. The only reason I use the PlayStation controller is because the trigger pole on PlayStation controllers is lighter. That's it. It's the only reason. So for me, what it came down to is a couple of situations where I was inputting something off the trigger and in Sam's show's case, it's like just like a throw at a rage up there
Starting point is 02:19:47 and just getting it not late, getting it like not as fast as I wanted to. Yeah, because you have to hit 50% of the pole to for it to count as an input sucked. And then the second part was we did a disarmed only tournament where you have to every so in Sam's show, you can put your weapon down and I for the life of me couldn't fucking get it consistently because on a stick, you just hit three buttons and down and you put your weapon down. But on a controller, those three buttons can't be pressed with your thumb. Yeah, because it's triangle circle and X.
Starting point is 02:20:20 Yeah, right. So you have to then press R2 and X and down, right. But the timing of R2 and X together is more specific than you would think. And being slightly off means it doesn't work. It just game game needs it to be 100% consistent. So there's no give or leeway on how them not being synced up. So I just couldn't fucking drop it. And online, especially, it became extra impossible.
Starting point is 02:20:49 And I was like, this is garbage. So this controller should help fix that problem because the timing of when you click your trigger in is almost the same as when you press a thumb button in, you know, you don't have to push the thumb button in and then go all the way to the end for it to activate, you know. Uh, think about like how I was going to say, like the mushy buttons of the of the Xbox button or like almost, you know, you have to press the options and start button on a PS4 controller harder than like a face button that protrudes. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:21:21 Like it's like that problem. Do you know what the one that was the worst ever was RE4 on the GameCube with that trigger, the trigger you had to pull all the way in and then a click lock that actually like damaged my hands. And I was a lot younger than, yeah. So it's nice that we finally fixed that. What about tech in? Yeah, tech in, you got to turn your hand sideways for tech in fingers.
Starting point is 02:21:48 But tech in fingers, you still would have a hard time pressing triangle, circle and square at the same time. You'd have to get your thumb in there and it would be, it'd still be pretty awkward. And I, you know, anyway, you can't play, you can't play a tech in fingers on Sam's show. That doesn't really work. But anyway, yeah, that's what's up with that. So don't you, okay, boomer me, you motherfuckers. Hey, man, okay, boomer is the end of friendly, racial, friendly, the generational relation.
Starting point is 02:22:17 It is the friend of any racial relations. Relations, you know. Are millennials killing? Racial relation, friendly. Are millennials killing generational relations? Yeah. Yeah, sure we are. All right.
Starting point is 02:22:29 It's like you stupid old fucking assholes. You've been literally clickbaiting and arguing and yelling and writing this shit for 10 years now. And one thing, one thing hurts your feelings and you catch fucking feelings. You go, oh, dude, oh, the okay, boomer like blowback of just like all these, all these people in their 40s to 60s, just losing their minds. And what is essentially the equivalent of going, okay, grandpa, it's literally just okay, old man.
Starting point is 02:23:05 But it's such a righteous comeuppance. Oh, it's so strong because every time someone would go, can you stop with these stupid shitty millennial articles? Are the worst? Yeah. And they'd just be like, okay, snowflake, whatever, you know, with the greatest generation was our parents, go off with it, whatever. I bought my house.
Starting point is 02:23:23 I got my job all in the same week. And then I got married and it was great. And I had you. What are you complaining about? Fuck off. Fuck off. Fuck off. You stupid.
Starting point is 02:23:36 So yeah. And it's not even like fuck you, boomer. No, it's just like, okay, all right, whatever you say, old man. Yeah, that's all it is. But oh, listen to me. I, I, oh, it hurts. I've ruined the economy. Oh, it feels bad.
Starting point is 02:23:53 What are you talking about? I don't want, I took every possible lesson from the generation before me that literally fought and died in the Second World War, came back and built the entire society we now live on. And then I stole all of your old age pension shit from my father. Oh, you won't listen to me. It's almost like being hand waved off with a single term feels really bad. It does.
Starting point is 02:24:17 It feels kind of bad, actually. You know, I don't. Fuck. It's like, it's like, I would have been like, I like, yeah, clearly I have more aggression in there, but it's just mild enough that it makes you look like a fucking bitch. This is the actual. For getting this upset. It's the best outcome because it's really mild.
Starting point is 02:24:40 It's not aggressive. It's just a little dismissive. And seeing people like go nuts is like, oh, wow, you are actually more of an asshole than I thought you were because the single, single instance of pushback. For the first time, just fuck off, stop. And you're like, oh, you know, the overreaction is wild. And I'm just like, so like, is there anyone out there that is upset by this that you don't understand?
Starting point is 02:25:14 Okay, okay, boomer is a slur. And it is from those people that won't stop eating their goddamn avocado toasts. It's like the N word for a whole generation. I saw that. It's ageism. Yes. Yes. Okay, boomer is on the level.
Starting point is 02:25:39 Yeah, but the best part is that when they say that, you just go, okay, boomer. Okay, boomer is on the same level as the word that can't even be said in your quote. The one that you self-censored. Oh, who was it? It was a comedian. I forget who it was. Yes, that's what that's what I'm making a reference to. It was like, you know, when you're debating whether or not one word is worse than the other
Starting point is 02:26:05 and you can't say one or the other word. Yeah, that's the worst word on this. Yeah, yeah. John Mulaney. Oh, man. It's it's just it is so it's such a righteous fucking deserved comeuppance, man. Oh, I love it. You know, and you had the chance you had the chance all of you to not react this way and
Starting point is 02:26:29 just be like, you know what? We've been calling y'all out for a long time. Fair, right? Or worse to just be like millennials are getting snarky with their okay, boomer, whatever the fuck your responses are. But to react like, oh my, where's the respect? How dare I Kevin? Oh, well, I never.
Starting point is 02:26:46 And it's just like after a decade, you know, my favorite part about this shit. My favorite part about this is that my dad was born in the 1950s. My dad is a proper ass. Actual, actual boomer. And my mom was born slightly later, despite not technically being part of the generation that we'd be baby boomers, let's roll them in. And a couple of weeks ago, I started laughing at this boomer shit on my phone because a friend of mine kept calling me boomer brain in a series of texts because I said some stupid shit.
Starting point is 02:27:21 And my mom and dad asked me what the fuck I was laughing about. And I said, you know what? Fuck it. I'm going to go for it. And I'm like, okay, you guys know baby boomers, of course. Dad, your baby was like, yeah. And it's like, well, a lot of people my age or a little younger, like they're sick of old people telling them what to do.
Starting point is 02:27:39 So they just call them boomers. And now boomer just means old person or that you're acting like an old man or you're out of touch. Yeah. So people, this was before okay, boomer even. And it's like, oh, so like when I act like a dingbat, my friends say, oh, what do you got that boomer brain? And my mom and dad just looked at me like I was a fucking idiot. And they were like, oh, we don't get it.
Starting point is 02:28:01 But that's fine. You young people do what you do. Okay. And then we went and had dinner. And that was the whole thing. Like the idea that my dad who does not fit the typical baby boomer thing, but who like actually busted his ass and said, oh, you kids are going to go to university and become people, right?
Starting point is 02:28:21 Would actually get hurt feelings over a stupid thing like this. My dad is the kind of person that if he was sitting right here, he would be laughing the same way I am at this shit at these dumb people. Well, that's he's not a dumb asshole. He's just a regular jackass. Well, that's the that's the deep irony is that the feelings are being hurt by the people who claim to have not how who have be hardened and not have any feelings to be hurt and are making fun of people who are more, you know, you know, it's this.
Starting point is 02:28:53 Yeah. So all like literally that post I retweeted of just like, like the article of like the end of friendly relations and then just the smorgasbord. Are millennials killing breakfast? Are millennials killing house purchases? Are millennials killing Canadian tourism? Are they killing the vacation? That whole thing, that whole thing just turns into our millennials poor.
Starting point is 02:29:21 Yeah. We're killing things because we don't spend money on the dumb thing that we don't need to spend money on. This is a bad topic to bring up after we jerked off on our $200 controllers. Sure. But the point remains that what hurts stupid old people. That can't take the shit they've been dishing out for a decade now decade. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 02:29:47 It's like 40 years, but but millennial articles on the Internet. You know what I mean? They had a time frame and a rise to prominence. They did. And then they realized that everyone got mad when they wrote them and then they started writing them more. Yeah. That thing.
Starting point is 02:30:03 What is it? I pay it. We paid a freelancer to say the thing you like is dog shit because Google and Facebook ate all the ads and this and the only way to make any money in this advertising nightmare duopoly is to harvest hate for clicks. Yes, that. It's great. It's great.
Starting point is 02:30:25 It all comes around. News. It's news. You know. And then when like what are you going to like if the boomers are upset by it? Well, they don't have to wait long. Yeah, they can take their medicine and you know, watch their mat locks. And then soon you won't be upset by it at all.
Starting point is 02:30:50 Yeah. You won't be upset by anything. And that'll be that. So enjoy it. Look, news. It was new this week. Okay. Well, you know, a bunch of shit happened and I mean, we can take it a couple of different ways.
Starting point is 02:31:17 Yeah. But I guess the biggest story would be BlizzCon. Yes, that's right. So we can talk about BlizzCon. Big disappointment on every respect for me personally, the BlizzCon. It was disappointed at nearly every single thing that happened. Except for that one kid who fucking rushed a camera during the Q&A and started doing the free Hong Kong shit.
Starting point is 02:31:46 They announced the Ablo for and they they showed a cinematic trailer. And the ship has sailed on that. For me personally, even even aside from all this, I still wouldn't care. And then they announced Overwatch 2 and they showed a trailer for that. And oh, man, the oh, that's the fun one to talk about. Well, this I mean, tell you, like that CG team worked very hard. Oh, they sure did. Deliverance.
Starting point is 02:32:16 They did a fancy, fancy animated blizzard. Blizzard animations always been a thing. Blizzard animation team completely free of controversy. As they continue to do good work. Always been a thing up there with I remember when it used to be blizzard versus square. Yeah, for the best cinematics, you know. But yeah, unfortunately, this had to be front loaded with one president CEO. President's the head blizzard man walking out to do an apology that needed to happen
Starting point is 02:32:55 because people were obviously there protesting to use the biggest air quotes ever. Your hands are shaking. I shook my fingers with the air quotes. I can see the tension because well, I don't know about you. I try not to be cynical. But when it comes to something like an apology, generally speaking, I like to mention the thing that I'm apologizing about. Woolly, I'm really sorry that I ate your sandwich out of the fridge the other day.
Starting point is 02:33:25 I know you wanted that sandwich and it was your sandwich and I took it and that was wrong. I hope you can forgive me. Good example of an apology. Second. Yes, sure. Second, right? When you appear to be really contrite over and torn up over, you know. Very sad what you did.
Starting point is 02:33:47 That would almost make it seem like you would want to walk back the entirety of what you did as opposed to nothing. No, a part of it. Oh, did they? Yeah, because Blitzchunk is no longer permanently suspended. No, that was done beforehand. No, I know. No, I know.
Starting point is 02:34:06 I know. I know. But I'm saying when you go, when that's your address, when that's how you address the issue by like shortening his suspension and giving his money back. Yes. But maintaining that there must be a punishment. When you go up and sound like you almost regret the whole thing. Why don't you just undo all of it?
Starting point is 02:34:26 Well, then you so so and then and then and then you get into the discussion, then the interview they did with Hearthstone guys. And those folks were basically just like the most they could say is like, yep, we acted too fast. This is that and whatever. But but they're like, this is bigger than video games is the nicest way they could phrase it. Right. There's no undoing this without upsetting China.
Starting point is 02:34:53 I have so many things to say. Go ahead. The only thing they actually regret and literally in the text, like if you were to transcribe it is, you know, we acted too fast and we took too long to say anything, not we did something wrong or we're a bunch of chodes. No, just we were just too fast on the draw. And and worst of all, we went against our own core values. Yes.
Starting point is 02:35:33 Eli, Mr. Plague of Gripes had a fantastic post about them essentially bragging that they were too fast to suck that that that penis. But Jim Sterling pointed out a division in context. Whoa, what did you just see? Apilogy. Oh, that's good. I like that. That's really good.
Starting point is 02:35:59 A division in context, which is that they're apologizing for acting too quickly and not responding well fast enough. But the suspension of Blitzchung is not a thing in the past. It is a daily ongoing occurrence. They are keeping him banned. Yes. They could just instantly. Yes.
Starting point is 02:36:21 Resin that ban in a moment. Yes. But so they're apologizing. They're apologizing for something that supposedly they were too quick to do, but they're going to keep doing it. Exactly. Which is nonsense. But when it sounded like he was breaking up as he was delivering that,
Starting point is 02:36:39 that makes you go, oh, it's almost like we're going to undo everything we made. And then it's like, no, we're still going to do it, but we're going to lighten up on how hard we're going. That way it'll be not as bad to you guys. But China can still be happy with the fact that he didn't get off scotch free. The actual just like apology and air quotes as literally nothing in it. No. There's no substance at all.
Starting point is 02:37:02 And I thought I'm at the most disappointing thing that I saw was people in that crowd going, whoo. Well, that's what I was going to say is it adds no substance, but the crowd ate it up. And more than that is the people whose ostensible jobs are to report on this being the, you know, polygon and whatnot going. Blizzard apologizes, blah, blah, blah. It's like, no, they didn't. Like by any factual definition, there was literally no apology.
Starting point is 02:37:27 Pertained within. You cannot apologize for something. And then not talk about what you did was wrong. And then not change what you did. And bonus, a week beforehand, release a workplace study, which says nobody internally feels bad about this at all. Actually, everybody thinks we really did the right thing. Except for the people that went out front and protested.
Starting point is 02:37:50 Do you, oh, you didn't see that. They put out a poll that said, look, we pulled the, the, we pulled Blizzard employees. And most Blizzard employees did agree that we did the right thing. And then you read slightly deeper and discover that it's most Blizzard employees of those polled think they did the right thing. And only 60 people in the company actually responded to the poll. And it's a company of like 1400 people. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:38:17 And it's like, oh, you're literally just putting out bullshit to show that look, you know, internally, we thought we were doing the right thing. But then you're going to turn around a week later and be like, we're so sorry. It's crap. It's, but you see that new champion though. She got the white dreads. Do you follow Mr. Sojourn?
Starting point is 02:38:35 Sojourn. Do you feel, do you follow Mr. Fields on Twitter? Yeah. It's really funny. Yeah. He had my favorite reaction to that shit in the universe, which was a Kotaku article going, there are storyline reasons why we saved the first black female hero for Overwatch 2.
Starting point is 02:38:50 And he just retweeted it and replied with ahhh, because that's the correct reaction. And you see that new hero though? Like, oh my God, dude. Holy shit. Big champions coming in. So the best part is Lucio's line. What's that line?
Starting point is 02:39:15 This isn't the Overwatch I believed in. Never let politicians tell you what to do. No, the, the best part is the interview with Jeff Kaplan about Overwatch 2 and the interview with the, I forget the person's name, about Diablo 4 in which they were both asked, so when's this coming out? And they both went, I don't know, lol. No idea. No idea when this is coming out.
Starting point is 02:39:44 Can't even give you a ballpark. Is the reason why that's funny is because you think they bumped up the announcement. Oh, Diablo was going to be there for sure after last year. But Overwatch, you got a CG trailer and like a gameplay demo and now nobody knows what that game fucking is because it's a multiplayer game. It's a sequel that, to a games as a service, which nobody thought needed one. Chapter 2. Bullshit.
Starting point is 02:40:09 All the multiplayer stuff's going to get rolled back into the first game. So the only thing that Overwatch 2 actually has is an engine that no one but porn artists will notice the difference and some PvE maps that were already a thing in the holiday events. So yeah, this was a bumped up announcement. Oh, hell yeah. 100%. Overwatch for sure. Diablo was totally going to be there because last year was a shit show.
Starting point is 02:40:36 But like asking, so when's this coming out? They don't even say we're working on it and we're hoping and not this year or whatever. The answer is literally I have no idea when this game is coming out. I'll tell you what though. It will not matter soon enough when game drops and people are making posts like, how do I undelete, how do I reactivate my Blizzard account? I deleted it two weeks ago because of the Hong Kong thing, but now I want to play the new Overwatch season.
Starting point is 02:41:14 Oh, man. Oh, perfection, man. Perfection. I'll say the same thing I say about EA games. It's really, really easy to boycott a company when you don't give a fuck about anything they make. Oh, it was fake. Okay. Well, that's good.
Starting point is 02:41:32 I don't even care. That's good. I don't even care. But is it so fake that you think there aren't people that would say that? Oh, totally. You know, but yeah, it's true. It's true fakes. Good bait, good bait.
Starting point is 02:41:42 Like, I don't care about Diablo anymore. And I don't care about Overwatch. And Starcraft is dead. And, you know, like, World of Warcraft's a mess. Also, I'm going to point out, you saw World of Warcraft Shadowlands. I heard about it. There's a lot of really, really suspicious similarities to the recent Final Fantasy expansion Shadowbringers that they were showing off.
Starting point is 02:42:10 Oh, yeah, I saw some people memeing about that. There is some really fucking suspicious shit where, yes, the Shadowlands did technically exist in the lore prior. I do know that. However, the visual treatment of the trailer, the areas and screenshots they decided to show, what is the context of Final Areas, et cetera, is like, this looks like you guys saw the shit last year and just started to fucking like, especially since World of Warcraft and Fortnite and all of them have an old habit of, hey, competitor, preview something,
Starting point is 02:42:57 rip it off and reach market as fast as you can, and in some cases beat them to it. I never had an accurate scope on how Big F of 14 was getting, because it's just something you played all the time, and since you're always talking about it, it's like, I don't think that plays. Yeah, and so I don't really get a sense of other people playing it as much, but clearly in that. At some point, I know your Twitter exploded with a bunch of people going, oh, so I'm hopping into 14.
Starting point is 02:43:24 Yes. Yes. And it was the Shadowbringers, really, or people that I didn't know played it before saying, oh, I'm jumping back on. And I was like, oh, what, what? Now, I saw a fair comment just in our chat just now, which was like, Pat, you know, they work on these way ahead of time, and they're working on multiple projects at once. Yeah, I do, but it's suspicious.
Starting point is 02:43:52 And with a company that's acting like a bunch of scum bags, I don't particularly feel the need to be fair in my suspicion. If, say, you know, Nintendo had some weird suspicious thing, I'm like, well, Nintendo makes nothing but nonstop quality, and they, you know, seem okay, right? I'll be a little more fair. But who gives a shit about being fair to Blizzard? Fuck them. So what if I'm wrong?
Starting point is 02:44:27 What I do hurt the feelings of a bunch of dirtbags? Oh, no. Yeah, once it drops, there'll be enough people. Oh, yeah, people will fucking fine tooth comb that shit. You know. But no, not just that, but like, there's also going to be a sufficient number of people that like are just like, I want to play it. Yeah, I'll totally.
Starting point is 02:44:50 Like video game boycotts. Don't work. Last as long as the next entry. Totally. Absolutely. Video game boycotts are weird because the real, you know, in most products, a boycott was like, I'm going to stop buying this brand of baby wipes. Sure.
Starting point is 02:45:07 Right. Fuck off. Video games don't work like that. But what does happen is, hey, I was really bummed out and disappointed by the last game, so I'm not going to buy the next one. There's that. Because there's all because the other complex complexity comes in when it's like, hey, you know that studio you like and trust?
Starting point is 02:45:25 I do. Of small, a small good team. Yeah, they're working on a thing for this larger, shittier company. Yeah, they are. Out of Worlds is owned by, sorry, not Out of Worlds. Obsidian worked with Private Division to make Out of Worlds. And Private Division is a subsidiary of 2K who are scum. Yep.
Starting point is 02:45:47 So, you know, Titanfall. Yeah. The whole time. Sure. Was held to the underneath that, you know, and radiant right now. Yeah. So, yeah, that's the games industry. Games industry is scum.
Starting point is 02:46:09 Yeah, respawn, yeah, radiant, boo other shit. Yeah. Anyway, so BlizzCon. Boo, Genji has a hood. That made me laugh out loud. It's a sequel. So, look, we gave Genji a hoodie. Wow.
Starting point is 02:46:32 Diablo 4, huh? Yeah. Online only. Open World. God bless. I'm going to roll my eyes now. Here we go. And thank you.
Starting point is 02:46:46 So, this is a story from last week that we didn't get to. So, we might as well just crack it open a little bit now. What do we got? Uh, the concept of a stadia exclusive. Oh, you mean a sandcastle? Hey, sandcastles are fun. They are. And then the tide comes in and washes them away, never to be seen again.
Starting point is 02:47:03 When's the tide going to come in? 15 months from now. That's the hard call. Yep. Stadia is 15 months from November. That'd be what? One year would be November. And then three more.
Starting point is 02:47:24 So, yeah, before the March of 2021. Google's going to launch multiple studios for stadia exclusives. Huge DUIPs are several years out. But effectively, they're going to be making a few first party studios to make games exclusive to the stadia. One of which is in Montreal, Quebec. Headed up by Jade Ravens. That's right.
Starting point is 02:47:50 Now, it's just the first thought that everyone has is. Oh, the games are literally built to die. They're made of dust. They're going to poof. You will buy the game. It will be exclusive as invisible data on a thing you've never owned. And will belong to no one but Google. And then eventually it'll be gone.
Starting point is 02:48:12 And then you will have never owned it. And there won't even be a way to fucking rip it because it was never on a local device in the first place. So you are making a purchase that is in fact a rental. Yeah. Of a digital sandcastle. I saw that term on Twitter. Somebody said it and I thought it was.
Starting point is 02:48:32 It's funny. It's pretty funny. But it really is just a rental. It's with a one time fee. That's with a with a random return date. Books that that this books that will catch fire. And burn themselves from the library. I hope none of those games are like super duper good.
Starting point is 02:48:56 Yeah, me either. I hope none of those games are sequels to franchises that I care a lot about. Yeah. Well, some are. How do you know that? Well, Shantae is one of them. I respect Shantae, but I'm not.
Starting point is 02:49:14 Yeah, me either. But I know a friend who's a big Shantae fan. Yeah. That game literally might as well not exist. They already announced it being exclusive. Oh, yeah, totally. Yikes. Is that that's way forward?
Starting point is 02:49:25 I believe so. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's no good. Nope. Ghost games bad. Digital sandcastles. Bad.
Starting point is 02:49:35 It's the fucking brave new future in the fucking planned ops. You know what? Floating in the wind. This might actually fall alongside planned ops to lessons laws. Shantae is not exclusive. Well, good then. Good. Glad to be wrong.
Starting point is 02:49:55 You know how planned ops to lessons laws showed up when car companies started fucking build their cars so they'd fall apart after like five years? Yes. And you can't do that? Yeah. This is like getting real close to that. You know what I learned recently, too?
Starting point is 02:50:09 When you see car crashes nowadays, they look cool, horrifying. I mean, terrible. Oh, no. You're not. You're not one of those. Are you? No, I just like crash test dummy videos. They're cool.
Starting point is 02:50:28 With the dummies. Yeah. Okay. It's a fuck off. You're not one of those people. No, or Russian dash cam videos. Those are funny. Okay.
Starting point is 02:50:36 That's the right word. Yes. Russian blank videos can go a lot different ways. Okay. Yeah. Please say psych. No, I know where you're going with this. The cars turn into fucking paper.
Starting point is 02:50:50 They evaporate in accidents and collisions because that saves your life. Yeah. It used to be that the idea was the frame of the car make it as strong as possible, real sturdy, but then the car would survive the impact and you would turn into goo. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:51:06 So now if the car absorbs all of the force. Force, but this is the word. Kinetic. Kinetic energy. If the car absorbs all the kinetic energy, then very little of it gets transferred over to you, which means you remain still banged up, but nowhere near as bad as it would have been
Starting point is 02:51:28 if you were an egg inside of a shaking blender. Yeah. You know. So yeah, the crumple zone happens outside and everything looks like, oh my God, can you believe you survived that? Yeah, totally. Because that would have gone into me
Starting point is 02:51:43 had I been driving like a 1960s Camaro or whatever. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. It's like the same concept behind breakaway glass. You know? Yeah. So that's pretty impressive.
Starting point is 02:51:56 So anyway, beyond that, of course there were protesters and there were Winnie the Poohs. Yeah. And there were maize and good stuff. And they were all, every voice mattered. You know. Oh, we forgot one part of the Overwatch story or the part of the interviews during the process
Starting point is 02:52:16 for Blizzard was that we're not going to tell anybody what to do based on their social media, you know, in their own private life, and then immediately threaten to fire an Overwatch coach for showing solidarity with Hong Kong. Oh yeah, there was that part. That happened. Immediate hypocrisy within a day.
Starting point is 02:52:33 Someone who was, a friend of mine sent me a link to something describing that the actual Chinese Blizzard Twitter account. Oh yeah. I know exactly what you're talking about. And a lot of that writing from their messages is actually controlled by a different company. So this was their way to get.
Starting point is 02:52:54 So everybody. It's not, there's a man, there's a Chinese company managing. So what it was was that they were like, people were like, hey, what the fuck's up with the fucking Hearthstone Twitter account going, we will always defend China's honor. And we will, we will bend over for China every day. What's up with that? That seems explicit.
Starting point is 02:53:16 And Blizzard was like, oh no, man, we don't even run that Hearthstone Twitter account. NetEase runs that shit out in China. We just subcontract or whatever. And then everyone's like, but you've, it says fucking Hearthstone Blizzard on it. You still fucking said it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:53:33 What the fuck are you talking about? Yeah. No, they, they, they say it's not them. Because they didn't, they didn't say it. Woolly, if I gave you 10 bucks to stand outside and say a bunch of fucking outrageous shit. And then when people go, Pat, how come Woolly said all that shit for you?
Starting point is 02:53:47 Oh, well, I didn't say who's Woolly. I didn't tell him exactly what to say. I just told him to say some crazy shit. Yeah. Apparently, apparently, so that company, they bought shares of Quantic Dream. Yeah. That company is also the one behind the Diablo immortal
Starting point is 02:54:05 NetEase, I believe. Okay. So that's why when everyone saw Diablo mortal, they're like, this looks like a Chinese mobile game. They were a hundred percent right. It's a Chinese mobile game. Okay. Yep.
Starting point is 02:54:20 So yeah, when a bunch of Blizzard folks are all looking around the room going, we don't, I don't know what's a Hong Kong. And one dude is standing high, saluting the chairman. The giant painting of the chairman on the wall. Yeah. You're kind of like, hmm, I don't know what's that guy's thing. He just works here.
Starting point is 02:54:42 I don't even know. He really likes Mao. He's just a huge Mao fan. I also found it, and maybe this is going a little too much, but considering the nature of the speech implications of Blizzard punishing somebody for advocating for their personal social cause, I found the fact that the president walked out
Starting point is 02:55:01 with an LGBT solidarity pen to be fucking disgusting and manipulative. Like, go fuck yourself. You're wearing something that under certain countries policies would be considered a similar act of political defiance as anything that Blitzchung did. But you're trying, you're probably trying to use it for brownie points.
Starting point is 02:55:23 You're an asshole. Probably. I mean, he might just be like, he might belong to one of those groups and just be hypocritical. Oh, that's, you know what? That's totally possible. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:55:40 Yeah. You don't know. I live in a country where this is fine. So you don't know. Fuck them. Well, anyway, by the way, double hypocrite, Overwatch Tracer and Soldier 76, you know, they're canonically queer.
Starting point is 02:55:59 Yeah. Not in China, they're not. Really? Yep. Really? Yep. Region locked. Region locked.
Starting point is 02:56:06 But what about those stories? Not available. Not available in Russia either. That is... So get fucked. Okay. Okay. So there is a default hypocrisy on display.
Starting point is 02:56:33 Now, I don't want to derail the entire podcast this way, right? Right. But because on the one hand, there's like poison, you know, and then... And all that nonsense. And then there's this, right? But the thing about this always struck me as like...
Starting point is 02:56:55 The world can talk to each other now? No. If you're making a statement that you're going to stand by it in a way, because it's a statement, the whole point of that statement is that you're making it. Yeah. So that when you roll it back, based on the nature of the market you're releasing to,
Starting point is 02:57:17 it not only weakens the statement, it almost completely invalidates it. It does completely invalidate it. Because then it's like you're... It's almost like you're saying... The statement's only for people who can handle it, man. But it's okay if you can't and won't and refuse to accept it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:57:35 Which the whole point of the statement is to say that I'm making the statement regardless. Yeah. It's fucking... For example, Sonic Fox. Yeah. No matter where... He will tell you. They.
Starting point is 02:57:47 They will tell you, sorry. No matter where, no matter what, you know? I was not aware of that change, my bad. So that is an example of like, yeah, fuck you. So if you're going to roll that back based on where your releases are, then what's the point to begin with? Is it because people are going to think better? Yes.
Starting point is 02:58:07 Of you in the region that it's happening in? Woolly, remember the E3 documentation? It's about storing, quote, positive chits for future use. But you're never... A term I had literally never heard before. Yes, yes, yes. And, you know, and I know that last time this came up too, like I did have a discussion with someone about like,
Starting point is 02:58:31 the shitty nature of having to second-guess good intentions. Oh, yeah. And like, this is to not... And I wanted to re-state that this is not to have anyone feel attacked because of their representation. It's because you're looking at a country where they're taking back the thing that's a progressive move and saying that no Soldier 76 is not gay in China.
Starting point is 02:58:54 So here he is, hanging out with his wife. No, he's just hanging out. That's so weird. I didn't know what he's hanging out with. That's so bad that he's hanging out with not a skeleton. That's so fucked up that you would do that. I mean, you know... Like, there's these things where like...
Starting point is 02:59:14 Lee, listen, man. You remember in Captain America Civil War when Cap pulled out that little piece of paper and it was like, oh, I got to try Thai food and I got to watch this movie. And, you know, it was just culturally appropriate for everybody's sensibilities. That's all it is.
Starting point is 02:59:34 Okay, now here's the thing. By the way, and being a sarcastic fuck, it's bullshit. But here's the thing where you always get into these parts where it's like, okay, so like, you know how WWE is now doing stuff inside of Arabia? Oh, yes, and being Hell Hostage. And they're being the... You heard about that, right?
Starting point is 02:59:47 I heard that their planes didn't... Like, they had a hard time getting off the floor because Vince had an argument business-wise with the Saudis. Oh, is that the reason why? Yes, that is the reason why. I didn't catch that. That's why SmackDown had like 12 people on it. Yeah, I heard about that, but I didn't know that that was...
Starting point is 03:00:04 Yeah, no. Every plane they tried to leave on suddenly had mechanical problems and they were just told to sit at the hotel for an extra day. Yes, right. While Vince and the Royal Family argued about $80 million that they had not been paid. So the idea kind of generally will be that it's like, okay, you know, they had their first women's match
Starting point is 03:00:23 and then they're doing all these things. And generally, someone will say, like someone that is probably, I don't know, let's say professionally involved with diplomatic relations. We'll say something to the effect of like, you can't go full steam. You have to slowly allow people to adapt and change. Sure.
Starting point is 03:00:42 Right? You have to slowly allow people to have time to get used to the new things. Because it's crazy out in this part of the world. Right. So, you know, and whatnot. And it's like... So we have to be tolerant of garbage.
Starting point is 03:00:56 Yeah. Right. Got it. Cool. Okay, fine. Well, you know what my favorite part about all this stuff? And I'm only going to make this point when I'm sitting across from you and pardon
Starting point is 03:01:07 for using this point in this manner. But the thing that always got me about Blitzchung is what if Blitzchung was you? What if you were Blitzchung? You are not a winner that the Chinese government wants to see, period, done. Does you speaking in that interview at all constitute a political action that's not appropriate for Hearthstone?
Starting point is 03:01:36 Fucking maybe. Right? Like... I have no idea. I have no idea. Right? Like, that's how bad it is. I'm me.
Starting point is 03:01:47 Yeah. Yeah. That's it. Yep. Because remember, what if you were a skeleton? That's not okay. What if you were a gay black skeleton that had solidarity with Hong Kong?
Starting point is 03:02:09 I'm down. China's not. No. Can we slowly ease them into being more comfortable with gay black skeletons? Which one do you want to start on first? They really don't like skeletons. No, they hate it.
Starting point is 03:02:32 It's fucked up. It's fucking crazy. That was the start. We should have known to worry. Once World of Warcraft came out in China and there were no skeletons at all. Man. I don't know.
Starting point is 03:02:56 I don't know. I don't know. I would say the iOS emoji censorship should have been the start. Yeah, maybe. You know what, Willie? I think your desire to not have to second-guess good acts is noble.
Starting point is 03:03:14 But I feel that in the current world that we live in, if it's from a major company, just assume they're scum. Until proven otherwise. And if they're an individual, give them a 60-40, right? People are generally good. I like to think anyway, right? I like to think that either a small company does whatever they want, or a mid-sized company
Starting point is 03:03:42 probably does whatever they want. And a big-sized company doesn't do whatever they want, but has somebody in there who wants to do something and then passes the idea up, and then the idea gets boardroomed for a little bit, until eventually they determine that, yes, this is good for future positive outlook. Whatever the fucking term was.
Starting point is 03:04:07 I mean, alternatively, it could just be stocked by a bunch of vampires eating children. Future goodwill. Yeah. Anyway, video games are so depressing. Thanks for making video games extra depressing, Blizzard. But you see that new hero, though. I saw the new hero.
Starting point is 03:04:25 She got white dreads, man. Everybody who acted that way is a fucking tool. Now, granted, I'm going to make a distinction here. People who didn't give a shit about any of this and then were excited about Overwatch? Eh, you're kind of a tool, but whatever, right? People who did pretend to care, but then got excited? Fucking tools.
Starting point is 03:04:49 That's the worst. That's the actual worst. So death stranding. Pretty divisive right now. It sure the fuck is. It has a really bizarre metacritic. It has the highest amount of perfect scores of any game this year,
Starting point is 03:05:07 but a metacritic is like 80-something because a lot of people hate its fucking guts. Yeah. So you're looking at a proper split of people that are in love with this game and people that cannot stand it. Apparently the giant bomb staff like almost universally fucking despise it.
Starting point is 03:05:24 Yeah. And I really did hear, I heard, I think they were the ones that pointed out the, or someone pointed out the dissonance of, I don't think death stranding is a good commentary on the human condition when I'm converting liquid into monster energy and chugging it in the game. I think that's an amazing commentary
Starting point is 03:05:47 on the human condition. Now, I think there's the Kotaku breakdown on it was actually really well thought. At least the first paragraph there byline was that was basically death stranding is a thoughtful impeccable work of art that will make you consider what it could mean to be a video game.
Starting point is 03:06:05 It's also a game in which you throw piss and shit at ghosts. Yes. Yes. Yes. There is someone else that had a thought that was basically like it's going to be an amazing game to hear people make theories about for the next 10 years.
Starting point is 03:06:21 Yeah. But based on how dual, the base on the duality of these review scores and how people are treating it and how much it seems to just be very, very divisive, I'm going to go ahead and guess that that line is between folks that are commentary, art, brilliance, love all of that stuff, looking for the depth
Starting point is 03:06:48 and the others that are like, can I play the video game please? So I have not played it. The I'm only tangentially closer to an answer than you are because I spoke with somebody on level clear who did play a bunch of it. And this was the majority of that conversation, which was what the fuck is this difference?
Starting point is 03:07:07 And the best that I could get is that that is actually not it. Part of it is, hey, do you love Pete Kojima and no one was there to tell him no? If so, you will enjoy it a lot more because he's fucking nuts and here's some monster energy, right? But the core of it is that Skillup brought this up, and I'm going to use it as an example.
Starting point is 03:07:27 In most open world games, let's take Witcher, let's take Far Cry, whatever. When you're moving from point A to point B, you are setting a white point on your map and you are holding up on the analog stick. Maybe you're going to drive a car, right? In Death Stranding, the terrain differences from like foot to foot to, hey, how do I get across that river?
Starting point is 03:07:55 To, oh shit, the incline's a little steep. I hope my character doesn't tip over. Is a is the moment to moment gameplay in that like literally walking from one location to another is the primary gameplay. That's crazy. And if you are the kind of person who is like, I just want to get to the end of this mission
Starting point is 03:08:17 so I can fight the thing, this will literally be the most miserable experience ever. Okay. Because combat is a minuscule part of this game. Sure. I don't need combat to be a I'm a magiskill part of this game. But I do find traversal to be uninteresting
Starting point is 03:08:46 in most instances of scene of it. Yeah. You mean in this game or in general? In general. Yeah. So in this game, I'm wondering what else can be done to make it interesting. Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 03:09:00 I like when you add a third element in there, such as a grappling hook or a jet pack or whatever. Right? Yeah. Fucking wall climbing. Whatever the fuck. But like traversal on its own is not the most like. So the game fun thing to me.
Starting point is 03:09:17 From what I can tell has had a lot of work put into what you're talking about. But at the same time, I like sailing and I like Breath of the Wild. Right. So walking down an incline is a mechanic. Balancing the weight on your back is a mechanic. Things falling off of you or being damaged or or the box is sticking out of the grass for stealth reasons as a mechanic. Leaving behind ladders using ladders crossing crossing a river is a big deal.
Starting point is 03:09:47 In this game, which is weird because it's so trivial in everything else. And then there's the Dark Souls journey ish kind of people are leaving behind items and vehicles and shit all over the place for you kind of thing. That could be fun. It is. It it feels like the Oregon Trail. It feels. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 03:10:15 Absolutely. You're even going east to west. Right. It absolutely feels like it is taking like survival horror like methodology of remember when we were playing R2 or you were playing it. I was there and I was describing like going through those levels as math equations. It's like how much how much shit do I have? How many enemies do I know there are?
Starting point is 03:10:39 And then each enemy is like a fucking equation of X resources. It feels like they took that and instead of enemies, it's the terrain. OK, now the thing that I've grown to dislike a lot is when games are open world and empty. Yeah. And like this fully seems to be the embracing of this is both. This is weird because it's only empty because people didn't build anything yet. Right. I saw somebody describing that they had found a half built bridge over a river
Starting point is 03:11:23 created by a player who then ran out of resources. And then they use their personal resources to finish that bridge. Thereby making that area much more traversable for everyone in that session. Right. Yeah. I just I guess what it comes down to is. What if Journey was mechanically dense? Not even because I am like my favorite.
Starting point is 03:11:50 The I get the most excited watching footage of this game when the camera is not behind Sam's back. Yeah. When the camera is just free floating and cutscenes are happening when things are happening. I'll tell you right now that I also am in love with Shadow of the Colossus. The game's story is very back heavy. It's near the end. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:12:08 I'm super in love with the feel with Shadow of the Colossus and definitely that's part of how that's part of the time it came from. Right. We didn't have games that were just an empty world. Right. Yeah. The idea that you'd have the audacity to make an empty world was kind of wild in that PS2 era. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:12:30 Now I've done it a couple of times. I'm not super stoked on Big Empty Islands and Big Empty, you know, Afghanistan's but. MGS5 is an obvious comparison. Man, there was like fucking shit all to do in that. And it wasn't great. It wasn't great in those parts. As far as I can tell, this game is the anti MGS5 in that in MGS5, you had boring traversal
Starting point is 03:12:55 to get to the good stuff, right, which was the sneaking. Yeah. And then everybody was like, why didn't you just do old levels? And this is your, the traversal is literally 95% of the game. Yeah. And then it's broken up by, oh, ghosts or oh, and other people. Yeah. And a man getting floated off by an invisible thing and killing himself before it has a
Starting point is 03:13:17 chance to take him is not. No, that's that's Flaveur. And that stuff is the best. And what was I going to say? I'm going to probably wind up full on in the, in the same like. There's a, there's a 45 second clip floating around on Twitter of Brad explaining a delivery mission to Jeff over a giant bomb in which it is some 95% of the game is deliveries is you are UPS man.
Starting point is 03:13:48 Yes. And this delivery is for a pizza. Yes. And the thing about it is that it is an advanced delivery mission because the pizza must stay horizontal at all times or else it takes damage and he walks up to the pizza picks it up with the default thing to Sam holds the pizza sideways and the pizza starts to glow red and take damage and they both start to panic as the pizza begins to take damage because you have to figure out a way to get it over there horizontal.
Starting point is 03:14:22 That's what they're straining. And like that's the game. It's like, how am I going to get from here to there with what I have and it's organ trail. Those nonsense box missions and astral chain a little bit. I am going to probably love what I love and hate what I hate when I play this. I am going to feel both sides of these reviews. I am probably going to be all in or all out. I see that's the thing is like I'm capable of living with the contradiction.
Starting point is 03:14:52 Well, for me, it's whether or not it clicks because if it clicks, I will gladly deliver many packages. If I enjoy the core act of delivering the packages, if I don't, then I don't. And that seems to be the core thing. There's a real like this is not. There's almost dark souls in like this is not a game for everyone. The fact that this game is really expensive and well publicized and being put forth as the next big thing when it might be the nichest, most expensive game ever made is weird.
Starting point is 03:15:31 If the reward for like the delivery is like, you know, here, you get to get to see Mads do some cool shit. No, it's it's you got a lot of likes on the Cairo Facebook. So yeah. And it's going to take a while like and you got a lot of positive ratings and numbers. Then yes, the you know, the breadcrumb might be too far away. You get to upgrade points to make Sam's balance a little stronger. The bread the breadcrumb might be too far away and too dry.
Starting point is 03:15:59 Yeah. But God damn it. Am I going to try my hardest? I think I like it because I know what I've seen. I'm in love with of the stuff that isn't ladder. I said this on level clear. But I think turn your piss into monster energy is right up there with big boss in the sixties going like, God damn it, I need Doritos.
Starting point is 03:16:26 Yes. Yes, the the the complete not giving a fuck about the way Kojima Productions puts ads in their games is the funniest thing in the world to me. It's so fucking funny. That is that is Pete Kojima and God bless it. But there is still like like I'm looking at the trailer right now as as they're looking up at the Titan with the strands coming from its hands. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:16:55 And like like just that image just like fills me with like I need to know more. Well, most of that stuff's at the end. So I might just like, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I might like it. I might. I don't know. But I'm in the same place.
Starting point is 03:17:11 I've been the whole time. I'm very excited to check out delivering packages. This is now confirming exactly what I've been saying for all this time, which is just like, I don't know what the fuck this is going to be. And we still don't. Can you believe we are days from Death Stranding and we still don't know? You think that's weird? I've watched a bunch of footage and talked to there's there's a guy in my discord who
Starting point is 03:17:32 fucking got the game two days ago because Amazon fucked up and everybody is like struggling to it is very difficult to explain why delivering packages is enjoyable. We sound the way we did in 2017 talking about Death Stranding a little bit and we are hours from it being out. Yeah. I mean, I know a few plot details that are part of the setup and like, yeah, I mean, that shit's fucking crazy. Your BB's apparently really cool.
Starting point is 03:18:07 Can I listen to Apocalyptica while I while I deliver packages? Yeah, totally. Good. Maybe. I don't know. Apparently the game has almost no soundtrack. It does have a soundtrack I can confirm. But it's by the band Low Roar.
Starting point is 03:18:21 I spoke to the guy who made the soundtrack and it comes in when you're like near the end of a delivery. It's not it's not just Low Roar. It's okay. There is a composer. Oh, I'm sure. Ludwig. I'm going off previews and people.
Starting point is 03:18:34 I'm going off of a human being. All right. That's fair. But I'm just I'm defending why I said what I said. I'm sorry if it was inaccurate. Boy, I hope that game's good. No, you know what? That isn't applicable here.
Starting point is 03:18:54 Boy, I hope I like that game would be more accurate, I think. Hmm. Yes. The game seems to be immaculate in its quality towards its stated goal. Whether or not I give a fuck about that is up to me, I guess. And this will become the pro and anti scub of 2020. Anti scub, obviously. We're going to 100% see vehement defense and or this is the 11 hour video of why
Starting point is 03:19:24 Death Stranding is the worst video game ever made. Yep. Yeah. Speaking of mundane activities in your video games, hey, No More Heroes 3. What about it? It's about 35 to 45% complete. Really? That was fast.
Starting point is 03:19:43 It has a bigger open world than No More Heroes 1. Okay. It's the biggest. It's not Manufat. It's not Grasshopper's biggest budget. The open world is something you would see in a Ubisoft or Rockstar game. There'll be about the amount of side missions you'd expect from a No More Heroes game alongside some other extras.
Starting point is 03:20:09 This feels like a huge waste of money. The suit Travis wears in the announcement trailer was playable in the final game, but under special circumstances, beam control, motion controls will reappear, but the challenge is figuring out when to best use the switch hardware. We'll get a new trailer soon. And yeah, there's going to be, it's going to be more like, it sounds like it's going to be more like No More Heroes 1. Good.
Starting point is 03:20:32 It's the best one. Coconut collector. Great. Good stuff. I'd honestly say 2 is the best one except for that fucking final boss. Oh my god. Headcannon, the people that made Sonic Mania, are a co-developer behind Sonic Mania, excuse me.
Starting point is 03:20:58 They've got a Kickstarter coming out for something called Verda Breaker. That's them. It's a skeleton game. It's a skeleton game. And yeah, they've got a footage. It looks good. They've got a trailer. Um, it takes about 40 seconds to get to the gameplay.
Starting point is 03:21:20 But when it does, it's some classic skeleton swinging bones and fun mechanical platforming 2D. Looks like probably like, you know, I'd say, um, uh, say a Saturn era platform. Yeah, that's it. That's better. You know, uh, and lots of momentum, fun stuff going on. So check it out. See if you like it. It's looking for, uh, a lot of money.
Starting point is 03:21:45 It's, uh, looking for 362 large. Boy, that's specific. Canadian. That's why it's specific. And they're currently at 17. So damn, they're aiming for a lot here. Now here's a game you won't see in China. No.
Starting point is 03:22:07 Uh, yeah, it looks, it looks like it should be fun. There's a demo. So we'll see where that goes. Um, took a while to get to that gameplay, but it is there. It is there. Um, I kind of, especially, I guess I just, I'm at a point where like, you know, when people, did you just, oh my God, what, what did I do? You started talking about vertebra and page showed up in the fucking Twitch.
Starting point is 03:22:32 Yeah. Okay. Well, you have a problem, bitch. Um, so when a lot of kick starters come along and, uh, I often need to kind of, for lack of a better term, just get to the point. Yeah. But what is, what is it? Just what is it?
Starting point is 03:22:51 You know, because there's a lot of preamble in many cases. And so if I scroll down, I really, really, really like when there's a gift of the gameplay happening right away. So you're like, got it. It's a this. Yeah. The original kickstarter pitches like all, like in the beginning of the golden age, we're all like, like fade ins on like a notable game developer talking at a table.
Starting point is 03:23:11 It's like, Hey guys, explaining, you know us from, yeah. And it's like, we're past that. We're past that. Show me, show me the button, go to the gameplay. That's what it was to, there's so many at this point that you just got to get there. You know, um, yes, but that's vertebra breaker. I love you, honey. Now, um, some other news.
Starting point is 03:23:38 I mentioned it a little bit earlier. Capcom, Yoshino Riono got, uh, he sat down for an interview and he basically was talking about Street Fighter five and its future and the current landscape of stuff. But they touched on a couple other topics, including fucks up with deep down. It's not completely dead. As you can see, it's not completely, um, given up on because they still do have the trademark. So what he said was, uh, the original team is clearly not together at this point, but people might have noticed that we've kept the trademark registered.
Starting point is 03:24:16 So it's not completely given up on every year we examine titles we're doing in the future. We bring up projects and approve and move forward. Not much I can say about it, but if you've noticed we've kept the trademark, it means we haven't given up on the title completely. A TGS, uh, I played a few, yeah, the, the Eurogamer said I played a, it at two GS a few years ago and it looks promising. And Ono replied, we did have a concept developed a bit further than that. But yeah, so it's not dead.
Starting point is 03:24:42 It's not dead. It's not dead. Deep down, not dead. I don't believe that we still have the trademark is some weak shit. I mean, skeleton crew redeveloping a core concept is not dead. Just make a dragon's dog, my guys. I mean, it's, it probably is. So what am I talking about?
Starting point is 03:25:05 But then again, like you've stared at things and said like that doesn't exist to things that exist. Yeah. So and some of them did and some of them didn't. Some of them did for a while and then stopped existing, which is the saddest one. Not much to say, but hey, Terry Bogard's art. He looks to Terry Bogard is out. He looks really cool.
Starting point is 03:25:26 It looks incredible. And he has all the love expected of Sakurai. And if you want to see Sakurai flex his Neo Geo knowledge for 45 minutes, check out that Nintendo Direct where he pretty much spends about half of it showing off Terry and the other half, just telling you about the history of the Neo Geo. But what is I was really, really impressed and happy. The most important takeaway from today's stream about Terry Bogard, that is that while Bayonetta may be a sex freak, she ain't got shit going on compared to Mai.
Starting point is 03:26:03 Mai Shirunui is not allowed. Straight up not allowed because Smash Brothers is for good boys and girls. And Mai is just a little too much. Now there was an old adage that says no Mai, no Mai. However, she does exist in the ports of SNK games. So she's not completely not on the Switch console. But just clearly the suspicions about Bayonetta are not unfounded. Bayonetta gets a pass because she is wearing a skin tight bodysuit with some feathers on it.
Starting point is 03:26:40 90% of the time. Mai is wearing a Kunoichi outfit and she is bouncing all over the place. And they couldn't not emphasize it if they know it would be against the law. And the amount of work they put into modeling literally every other character. There are so many KOF characters in that stage. Significance. The entire roster of like 95 practically.
Starting point is 03:27:08 Plus Rock Howard plus just skis is there. Fuck yeah. Everyone's there. It's absolutely crazy. And they're like really nice models too. Also there's the Mi costumes they showed off. Including Virtua Fighter and other fighting game characters like Samurai showdown stuff. Interestingly the Mi costume that were in the recent leaked video
Starting point is 03:27:46 that may or may not be legitimate which were Malo and Kakademon from Doom were not shown today. Please be real please god. I am extremely impressed and happy with how Terry was handled. I have one one thing that makes me sad. Is it the costume? No. Okay. Because that's fine.
Starting point is 03:28:13 I get it. There's no wild wolf. Yeah. I want to see one. They didn't do it. That's okay. I would have loved to see wild wolf but they didn't do it. There's someone had an idea and that was that his taunt would be him throwing the hat off
Starting point is 03:28:26 and oh it would have a hitbox so that when you're coming back from and recovering it would spike you. That is the single greatest thing. Oh it's very good. And I'm so sad that's not real. It would have probably been way too good. Like fuck the level of like but no because it moves outward you can't so like when people are recovering they're usually under the stage but you have to be so good that you're getting them on the arc of the hat which is not dropping straight down.
Starting point is 03:28:56 It wouldn't be so good. It would be really hard. They should have had it so that he could throw the hat as a taunt and Ken and only Ken could catch it. So do I. I love that in his trailer he's got the come on come on to Ryu Ken and Guile who's just sitting there holding down back down back. Yeah. So they went they went so overboard in terms of all the details you'd expect but then they also
Starting point is 03:29:21 just said hey you know what's really cool SNK's music and then they added 50 fucking tracks to the game yeah so okay never stopping. Anyway that KOF stage is fantastic. It's super good. It's really really good. Let's move along real quickly here. We saw the new Guilty Gear looks great Guilty Gear so so I take it you are did you watch the full stream not the whole thing but I didn't watch the breakdown you watch the breakdown from
Starting point is 03:29:52 high fight yeah okay so I take it then that I'm pretty happy with all those changes you're you're you're happy with fundamentals yeah yeah so that's that's kind of what it comes down to is Guilty Gear is being changed to something that resembles an early 90s fighter yep um do combo go down yeah anime go down right but buttons go up yeah so it's it's it's interesting because like I definitely like both styles of games and I look at this and I can go if you are a fan of Guilty Gear and its mechanics you are going to not like the changes that I am very happy with the direction I would of all I kind of always wanted it to be more toned down even though I'm a blasphemer I know yeah so and I know that like and I like
Starting point is 03:30:50 I said I've like I've gotten to love both you know this definitely like I feel for the people that are just like I'm in love with the mechanics more than anything else and that that stuff's taking a hit but effectively what is happening is you're seeing much much shorter combos much much uh just like higher damage for first for short exchanges yeah um and uh god where was the breakdown there's a the short version of it is that like from what we saw when they revealed they revealed Potemkin and they revealed um Chips enough who have to be announced at the same time it's the law yeah um and so what you're going to get is for example juggles are almost like completely different now because there's no teching in the air you can't flip out of combos the way you used to in
Starting point is 03:31:46 Guilty Gear in mid-air and the way you do in currently in like Dragon Ball and stuff when you get hit in the air you drop straight down and automatically tech backwards yeah you do you don't have a choice of what you're taking right um the game is still going to have you know punch kick slash heavy slash and dust but uh a major change for this game oh my god these characters look so good fuck me um a major change is that in Guilty Gear you never actually went for a throw attempt with like a throw button yeah you just hold hard and and close to the character and you either swung or threw so it keeps it kept the same throwing button inputs from back in the days of Street Fighter 2 for example yeah and they were like frame one which means like instantaneous
Starting point is 03:32:35 right uh now you have like forward plus dusts and you're going to try to do a throw which means you can bait people into trying and blow them up it's a lot more modern so the classic throw text established many years ago yeah yeah so there's an evernote that has like a giant list of all the changes specifically but the you know just to go over some of the major ones there's that uh there is uh uh no more so there's there used to be a mechanic called um um a dead angle attack which is basically when you are blocking you can like knock someone off of you yeah but it's replaced with a roman cancel while you're they kind of combined five different mechanics in a roman into just roman cancel yeah yeah hey do you want to do something in this situation hit roman
Starting point is 03:33:20 cancel um potemkin's there he's got a heavenly potemkin buster that literally consists of him flying up to the heavens um i still don't like his shoes but potemkin's great his design is also like pretty much like solidified like they have him clothed with the helmet on and everything now and they're just like yeah this is what he looks like now yeah there's no need to redesign what we came up with i miss his old design you like him with the sleeves out and head out i just i wish there were both i wish i could have both you know i i i he's more casual than the old ones this is much more military yeah i do like this one more than that than the old one yeah me too but i just there's there's times when i miss it like for example gief now has what i consider the perfect
Starting point is 03:34:15 costume it's just saying gief but he's wearing a lucha mask okay to me that's the perfect that's the perfect gief yeah you know um yeah maybe there'll be costumes in this who knows you know but anyway uh so yeah there's all these little uh mechanical differences and whatnot but on a casual level what you're gonna notice most is what you're gonna notice most is is fucking getting dark this is bullshit it is is uh that stage transitions will happen often yeah right kind of like uh in injustice you'd have all these big go from one left side of the stage to the right side you're gonna notice that pretty pretty frequently and you break through some invisible glass because you hit the wall and when you hit the wall three times and then you do
Starting point is 03:35:07 another attack uh they break through and then you get a damage buff for that um and and i guess the other thing you're gonna notice on a casual level is that the entire ui is very placeholder yeah it is not rock and roll at all no it's looking very uh clean and sterile and i like that sometimes for example i'm a huge fan of the way kof 11 looks i like the very white graphic design like look of that game but for guilty gear it needs to be rock and roll needs to be chains and metal and yes so that all needs to come back in whenever the game is ready to get cooked but for now you're seeing some placeholder everything across the board the character select screen is broken up into like almost like hero types and overwatch it breaks them up into balanced tricky speed power etc
Starting point is 03:36:04 that's weird um but god damn the style and the knowing of like you pick your characters and then the eagle flies into the screen and then it flies to the stage as it loads uh uh and then you get your new fucking stage intro text so heaven or hell dual one lets rock we get uh uh you know um the time of retribution battle one decide the destiny right the rebel one all that shit rebel one sucks it's a weird one um and then there's the weird fucking shit that comes with unist unist and and uh there's like a paragraph and whatever that weird other game we played was called with the with the fucking uh would please make your selector whatever the the i don't know this shit is some fake garbage this shit in guilty gear um is like it starts out with a cinematic and it says
Starting point is 03:37:08 is mankind knew that uh that mankind knew that they god i'm already fucking it up it's the mankind knew that they were at fault for or whatever and so turned to beast or some instead of reflecting on themselves they blamed the beasts heaven or hell dual one lets rock it gives this whole fucking paragraph and is so stylish and good that i'm like that on its own is wonderful as it says heaven or hell you get the feet of the character in player one in the foreground and the player two character in the background and you're seeing the cinematic from uh mankind knew that they could not change society yeah so instead of reflecting on themselves they blamed the beast heaven or hell dual one lets rock thank you um you see the perspective of
Starting point is 03:38:13 player one so player two will in potemkin's case he comes jumping out of the case or whatever you know but in the cases of things like axel for example you see him in the stopped time in player one and then he touches reality and then it ripples and he's back but in player two side you just see him appearing so it's like you're getting the do in the world outside the world perspective fuck it's so good um so yeah on that level it's already killing it and of course the full version of smell of the game is out so you can enjoy bullshit blazing for as much as you want um and yes at the end of the stream after they took q and a and they did all this stuff uh that i mentioned earlier that they announced uh the game was going to be at arc rivo so at arc rivo
Starting point is 03:39:03 where i'm going to be doing and participating in all that they're also taking the feedback for how people think and feel about this new version of guilty gear and the quote that the the japanese arxist guys gave was basically something to the effect of it's not just that the ui might change it's that the entire game literally might change after after this point absolutely nothing you see is final you're taking a lot of feedback yeah so that's good because that's heartening people have a lot of feedback and anime fans want the game to be more anime and uh ogs want the game to be more more og they like they like the the the change towards classics and more footsie based play but the thing about that is it's not just for the sake of making
Starting point is 03:39:51 it an old-style fighting game it's because new players don't have as hard of a time you need to go up there and ask them where bridget and zappa are yep yep and the first thing and the only thing that was repeated the entire time the chat was up was ggpo ggpo yeah ggpo ggpo and and they actually answered the question and effectively said we know that a lot of you guys are concerned about getting rollback and um we're not saying what we're not talking about like that system at at the current time we're not talking about like what's in what's whatever but we're we hear you for sure and are taking it into account oh well that's better than nothing it's better than no like everyone went boo that sucks and then kissy was like i'll take that over no yeah you know
Starting point is 03:40:44 i like fair enough dude fair enough um yeah everyone made it really loud and clear that they want rollback over anything else they're going to announce good and they'll continue to make it loud and clear through arcrevo i'm sure beyond all that um and like super not guilty gear looking hide aside it's the best-looking fighting game probably the best-looking video game and it's the most gorgeous video game like in terms of style style yeah absolutely like you look at Death Stranding and Death Stranding it's like the photo realism train yeah last last of us too is going to be in but uh this is like a literal moving anime stylistically this is the best-looking thing yeah i can't think of anything better big anime go check that stream out if you want to see more
Starting point is 03:41:33 you see the heavenly petain combustor when he goes up to the sky and you see the gods in the sky of course i did that's my boy cask is back in soul calibur yeah hildy's back i really have much to say other than fucking finally hildy's great hildy's great she's back she has her spear she's now the leader of her country good she can't stop talking about her country she loves her country guys um guys she loves her fucking country she is a patriot she also she looks a little different i mean that's to be expected right yeah but anyway she's got the spear she's got the little sword she's got the little sword she's got the caska not really her hair is longer she looks cool so good good good character come back good
Starting point is 03:42:27 although annoying to fight yeah well what are you gonna do yeah take some letters before we do that i have one last piece of news sure uh something that i forgot to talk about during my week but i'm gonna put in a news came out this past week one mystery of castle super beast fan game yes by one remerai that's r e m e r a i yes young person from sweden uh threw some bullshit together in under three months yeah uh page and i took a look at it on her stream it's fucking incredible it is a legitimately fantastic game i made the claim that it is probably better than two-thirds of the games i ever looked at on shitstorm it is a alone in the dark original tribute game starring me and you willy you are the playable
Starting point is 03:43:30 character i am the jackass who you talk to for information about your items um it is about four to five hours long it has multiple endings it has uh it uses a clip of you saying yep real fast for like some simless shit when you're when you talk woolly it goes like it's fucking great i'm astonished at its level of quality in that it feels more like a real video game than a fan game that is a talented dude that has been making those little videos of quotes and uh i look forward to the opportunity to play it myself and it has one jump scare yes when you start the game he says there will be scary things in this game but there will be only one jump scare so get ready okay yeah i do i'm so impressed i'm so impressed uh yeah i can't wait i'm gonna i'm gonna totally
Starting point is 03:44:50 take a look at this for sure no doubt i did at hegao academy why the fuck wouldn't i do this yeah you're the main character yeah yeah i should probably play that yeah you do a hegao or not okay so yeah um that's i want to go fuck myself i'll just go home there's some good stuff well anyway the mystery of castle super beast is available now for the low low price of literally nothing cool that's me eat you i'm dressed like brock yeah like i'm wearing a green vest uh you got your uh your kehlmanger hairstyle yeah yeah it's got the that's good it's got the new look that's that's cool that's cool i appreciate that thank you for doing you were definitely
Starting point is 03:45:54 the hero of this game i appreciate that it's my um my post reboot hat look yeah that was the old times so let's take some letters hey you want to send in a letter talking about how we didn't talk about pokemon at all this week what's there to talk about they cut a bunch of pokemon okay we've yeah i know the game sucks the game's done it we've done it i know it's me being sarcastic uh you can send that into uh castle super beast mail at cast at castles shit fuck you can send it to castle super beast mail at gmail.com that's castle super beast mail at gmail.com charizard sucks charizard can suck my ass uh that's what i have to say
Starting point is 03:46:46 kwan from oklahoma says hey jackpot and i need more power a war is coming the great peanut butter sandwich war is imminent all right the line peanut butter and grape jelly yeah peanut butter strawberry jelly uh-huh peanut butter banana choose your allegiance these are all fantastic i don't really i feel putting the two different kinds of jellies is kind of like yeah splitting the jelly vote it's really splitting the hairs really let's just say pb and and jelly versus pb and pbj pbb yeah pbbs are great pbjs are great um i'm gonna say peanut butter and jelly wins it on regular bread but if you toast it it's pb and banana for sure um i noticed that uh uh cherry jam isn't there uh yeah and that stuff's really no apple jam that stuff's really good too that's a
Starting point is 03:47:34 good never had cherry jam don't care for cherries in general the cherry the cherry stuff is fantastic also real fruit real fruit jelly yeah it's got to have the chunks in it yeah well if you're gonna have real fruit jelly why not just fucking throw down a banana on it because you get both yeah you're right you're getting the fruit and the jelly the banana doesn't have jelly yeah you're right so i think banana jelly would be horrible banana tastes wonderful with peanut butter but it does take second place to the best of the jellies yeah i'm gonna give a toasted pb and b a one up over a pb and j but a non toasted pb and b loses to pb and j every time pb and bad j loses oh well i mean come on if you're gonna include bad ingredients but but banana is consistent yeah well yeah unless
Starting point is 03:48:19 it's rotten well yeah but you know what you're getting yeah you know banana that's the same it's a safe bet you're right that's what i'm saying you're right crunchy you're crunchy you're smooth i like both you're you're you're less insane than others i've encountered i like both smooth all the way man no sometimes crunchy's good i didn't fucking buy peanut butter so i could fucking finish the job with my own mouth the answer is not that oily shit without no oily shit's bad i don't like that peanut paste or whatever it's called there's a real there's a real enemy i've paid for peanut butter so a machine could pre to it for me thank you smooth and crunchy are on the same side we're on the same battle with the same side of the war no it's the oil fuckers that need to go no they all
Starting point is 03:49:06 need to go uh dear castle super beast the other day i was playing dead rising two off the record with a friend online got to a point where we had to progress forward but could not being dumb asses we forgot to give frank his zombrex so after defeating the bosses we were stuck at the checkpoint and we could only go about 20 seconds before hitting game over yeah we restarted the file that's realized too late that the save and all progress without we never saved so all progress was lost brought back the days of n64 without the controller pack trying to save progress what's the most you've ever lost because you forgot to save i lost to f of 7 95 percent complete playthroughs in a row because of shitty memory cards yeah so we talked about that
Starting point is 03:49:54 already i talked about uh golden sun this is a repeat question i i guess in terms of but in terms of deliberate like not having a memory card um i it's all repeat at this point we're just going to repeat the same answers but you know firmly if you think about it all conversations are just repeats to be honest yes but the difference isn't to a microphone or not i suppose hey listen microphone if it's far enough in the past no one's gonna remember that i already said that um i played through 45 missions of napco x capcom without a memory card that's crazy still it's fucking nuts i just plug in a memory card i didn't have one because i didn't have a ps2 i borrowed my friends just get a ps2 he gave it to me for a weekend and all i had was a controller
Starting point is 03:50:37 and a copy of the game i had no save so i left it on and i play and i'm just marathoned it all day and then play and then when sunday night came i had to give him back his console i thought i might get lucky enough to maybe beat it turns out it was namco x capcom yeah it turns out turns out it was namco x capcom tried to beat it in one go that's not possible wasn't possible that was life that's a bummer man yeah i didn't have the console at the time really wanted one yeah um all right we get this often enough and it comes up on twitter often enough and i know that one
Starting point is 03:51:29 answer will never answer one ball is bigger than the other there it's done one one answer will never help no one will ever hear all the all in one i already answered it but a lot of people will hear one if we make it and then clip it yeah so yeah here's for the clip future you gotta you gotta fucking make it really really memorable if you want to clip a lot of people ask i'm coming to montreal what should i do oh yeah that's a good one here's the simple we'll keep it straight all right all right uh uh there's there's uh Schwartz smoked meat is very good you want to hit the lolos near villamar do you want to hit opied cauchon that's a fancy restaurant so you can't just throw them out just give them a bit of what they're getting all right you do it so you got
Starting point is 03:52:16 Schwartz smoked meat it's very good yeah montreal smoked meat's the thing it's the main thing right it's on sale or off like there's two places one for takeout one for dining in a lot of people just go to the dining in one and line up oftentimes you can walk into the second one and get your meat to go yeah people don't know about it there you go um you want to get your putzin you go at your putzin at laban keys that's right that's l a b a n q i s e laban keys where putzin goes to die laban queez if your anglophone and what you basically go in and do is uh sit down it's 24 7 and you see a giant menu of all these different crazy flavors if you've never had one get a regular if you've had them before get get whatever you want because you can have fun with
Starting point is 03:53:06 it right if you get if someone's never had uh uh uh i don't know like pizza before get a pepperoni slice yeah fucking after you've had that pepperoni slice then you can go for the other stuff yeah okay good um the other thing Montreal's good for is uh we've got uh portuguese chicken aka piri piri if you've had it good for you if you haven't um romados is very good saint vieter bagels that's what i was waiting for same bagels in town same street same place same area three or four of these places are all on the same block frankly there's one out on montland and ndg but you're not gonna go to that same vieter st dash v i a t e you are bagels unless you're from new york this will easily be the best bagel you've ever had in your life great if you are from new york
Starting point is 03:53:59 you can have an argument with people there uh the best pizza you can possibly have is not on the island it's in fact about a 25 minute drive man the trip out there is fucking stupid it is but if you want to have like next level game changing pizza you can go to como pizzeria c o m o pizzeria you got to drive out to it it's fucking dumb you got to have access to a vehicle that will get you there or an uber it's in like a fucking shit oh strip it's in the it's in the it's in the the fucking farm zone the mountain region but it is the best pizza period best not around here anyway yeah get the italian sausage italian sausage is the flavor to get it's one of those thin thin thin crust heavy on the cheese chunky meat good sauce there you go uh you got the lalo burger yeah that's
Starting point is 03:54:54 over in villamar that's near the monk metro station here's the thing about the lalo burger it's a lot like in and out yeah i don't know that but it's basically just in and out okay it's crumbly burger i like it yeah it's very greasy americans are you know wax paper that's all fucked up by the time it gets there it really is just in and out they do have it um but it's good and uh you know that's that's kind of your deal that's the food places that's the food stuff climb up the mountain go to the lookout on mount royal fight the raccoons there's two lookouts by the way yeah there's the the lower and the higher lookout they have different views of the city they're both quite nice yeah do one or the other you can go up whenever go check out old montreal go down to the
Starting point is 03:55:40 port it's like a mini paris the old port is quite nice it has uh horses and cobblestone streets and a waterfront yeah with a ferris wheel and boats and a science museum and little activities to do and most of the time there's a festival going on it's happening somewhere plus days arts dead center of the city like literally dead centers plus days are is what they'll say yeah but in english there will be place des space arts arts plus des arts yeah plus days are um and then beyond that like uh i mean if you want to come and fuck some whores we got a bunch of whores you can fuck okay beyond that uh that's a thing the big two streets are st catherine which is just that's the giant that's where most of the whores are running across
Starting point is 03:56:32 the entire like downtown core and then you've got st laran where you've got lots of stores restaurants clubs all that jazz that's worse like the shorts is this for example um and then um if you want to have like some fun bars and that kind of thing crescent uh no that's super touristy bad really yeah i like crescent not great boost and is really good um um shawarma on crescent but no i would suggest st denny or st denis because they've got a barcade they've got a board game bar that's true they've got a bar where it's got music and you they have like records for placemats and just kind of you know so st denny or st denis is where you get a lot of those options if you're down with shisha or hookah they've got those as well so yeah that
Starting point is 03:57:28 would be like vaping you can just walk in any direction and that's Montreal that's what you that's what you do we got a cat cafe and we're done right we do have a cat cafe you can check that out that's cool there's other stuff but for the most part that's the core yeah cool cool yeah there's yeah there's there's amazing high scale upscale restaurants shouldn't be too hard to google and find out what those are yeah right um but those things are just just to give you enough to overwhelm you with choice that's your sound bite that's Montreal okay and uh yeah lastly here we'll take that's too long for a clip by the way what are you talking about oh you mean twitch clips or youtube clips youtube clips ah that's a solution uh dear lords of the castle i started playing
Starting point is 03:58:27 trials of mana slash seiken densetsu 3 recently beforehand i didn't have a ton of research on class path or character choice because that's just the nature of being a ttr pg player uh i liked everything i read on paper and i started planning my team and hedged my bets on how to proceed down the road then i actually played the game and it was fun to start and i liked the combat system to a degree but the perfect emulation is uh but the perfect emulation so menuing was glacial so equipping a characters with stuff was cumbersome and in order to have an effective healer i had to play the healer myself instead of my main character it's because for whatever reason the healer refused to use their spells to heal me when uh the danger chime played thanks
Starting point is 03:59:10 donal this had me looking forward to the remake and hoping that a new perspective would help the combat feel better but the game would be tweaked would have tweaked ai to be smarter um am i crazy or does uh uh or is this a great game for its time uh am i crazy or does is this just great game for the time it was released compared to now i don't know man i didn't play bonus are there any rpgs that you played that you liked it but wished there were more tweaks to make things better percent of three being able to allow maron fucking caron yeah right maron fucking caron is the worst ever ever example of that that's very clear um does is this a good game for a day uh that comes from yomi from dalis um trying to remember i feel like there was stuff
Starting point is 04:00:09 i feel like there was stuff in mario rpg that i wished was a little bit but it's been so long yeah trying to think i had a really hard no that that that wouldn't count is it anything gonna beat maron caron maron caron's probably the worst one like skies of katia it's like bitch i'm literally gonna die yeah no man you yeah yeah that was bad you just couldn't control her and she would do whatever she wanted that's number one i guess that's like
Starting point is 04:00:52 real life but still i'm gonna die yeah that's number one with a bullet for sure oh i get it because it's persona all right hey i'm gonna be streaming later it's twitch.tv slash angriest pat i'm gonna do outer worlds this week and then death stranding check that out at 8 p.m. and 3 p.m. on friday and saturday that's cool that's where i'm at um yeah the lp's continue so indivisible continues and astral chain will be wrapping up this week we'll be starting the new stuff uh also of course one-offs you know some fun things coming along the pipe for that and i'm going to uh have some serious things about how to tackle disco or otherwise there's disco and then there's like two or three other games that are all games that i really want to
Starting point is 04:01:50 know what happens in them and people really want to see them but you don't want to do the process of doing them because it might be the most miserable soul crushing shit ever at which point people will stop being interested and give up maybe five to ten episodes of 80 sick so this is the struggle it's a conundrum it's always been there yeah all right this has been a fun time you guys have a good week we'll see you next week or earlier if you check out our personal channels bye so oh
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