Castle Super Beast - CSB 044: Controller Reveal Party
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Stadium knew that it could not change society and so it decided to blame the beasts.
Heaven or hell. How? How?
Wow.
Okaaaay, so the podcast is being recorded on Wednesday, November 20th, due to delays in shipping your wooly.
However, what this does mean is that we are able to get that hot take of the Stadium launch event wooly.
What is your hot stadium take?
My hot stadium take, and I thought the only stadium take that mattered was Gene Park's take of the Washington Post.
Yeah.
Who posted a GIF of the, you know, pictures, a thousand words.
Yep.
By that token, a GIF is a million words because there's more frames, so it's quite simple, really.
It looks a little something like this.
He has his keyboard, he holds his up, and he presses the button, and then you look at the screen, and then you watch the character jump, and then he looks back at you, and he holds his hand up, and he has time to press the space bar, turn to you, and hold his hand up, and then the character jumps.
So I think what's extra crazy isn't when he hits the, he's playing Destiny 2, isn't that he hits the space bar, and there's a full second, a full appreciable one Mississippi before his character jumps.
It's even worse than that because he jumps twice in that video.
The first jump looks fine.
The second one is different.
So it's not even consistently bad.
It's terrible.
Like in the descriptions I read is that 80% of the time it's okay, but then that last 20% of the time it is an unplayable mess.
Do you remember what I said should be their presentation?
I do.
Not.
Okay.
I said their presentation should be someone walks out on stage with a controller and presses a button, and then the video feed response.
Like it's literally, like I literally made the joke, and here it is.
Here it is.
So shout outs to Gene for basically bringing that to life.
And of note, you should go check out that Washington Post review.
It's scathing, but more importantly, it was tested on two systems.
One, the in office Washington Post fiber internet, which is the fastest shit you're going to get as a consumer or even most times as a business in a major metropolitan city, the capital of the United States.
No less.
And his home, which was like 300 ish megabits or so, whatever, which is high consumer grade internet for most people in the United States in a major metropolitan area.
God forbid we're talking about whoever the fuck, wherever Oklahoma, South, where your name like Plague Town, right, where you're using satellite fucking internet.
I've been I've been busy.
So I did not.
I did not.
Well, one sleep.
You had one sleep.
I did not sleep.
Oh, I had very, very bad sleep.
We have a lot of sleepy podcast over here, but today is extra special.
Big, big breakneck video editing, uploading things going on.
But what were the what?
What are the highlights?
I mean, you said there's like 20 stories.
I will run you down some shit because I'm just like, yeah, that that one you might.
Yeah, that's that's obviously the one that's that's the docket story.
So in order that I can remember, the launch lineup was released in between last week and this week, which was 12 games of which 25 percent of the more Tomb Raider.
Because of parts, because there were three Tomb Raider games on it solid, right?
And then 12 hours before the system launched, they went, oh, shit, and added 10 more games.
Yeah, which is I heard that.
What? Like those were ready.
Don't like I heard that it fucking latency tests come back with like an extra 40 to 80 milliseconds of latency on everything compared to your average setup.
The day that Stadia launched.
Well, two things happen in regards to the physical launch.
One, people were getting the founders edition people were getting emails and say, hey, man, there's a problem with your order.
You it's your order's been placed on hold.
All you got to do is click this link and go and make sure you know, click yes or whatever and your order won't be on hold and you know, it'll go through.
And the average experience from that would be that you would click on it and then it would tell you your order was canceled.
Right, because they massively underproduced it even for their stupid estimates.
I saw the Reddit banner of multiple people going wide by shit get canceled.
Yeah, bonus, the day that these products actually shipped out, they shipped out via your average shipping Amazon or Google UPS, whatever.
And people were getting them nine in the morning, 10 in the morning and they're like, cool, except Stadia console is just a Chromecast ultra that you plug in what is essentially an unlock code into it to make it a Google Stadia.
But the emails for the that code for many, many people just didn't go out.
So it is if you bought a PlayStation and it was a DVD player until Sony emailed you to tell you how to turn it into a PlayStation.
And that went on for most of the day.
But is it physically a Chromecast?
It's really it's just a Chromecast ultra because remember Stadia is a website.
You're the one who discovered the secret.
This is true.
Stadia is just a website.
They're sending you a thing to play it on.
Yeah.
Yeah, right.
Um, yeah.
And but the I mean, the website version, that doesn't exist yet.
Um, just watching footage of this thing is the funniest fucking thing in the world.
And the bonus is that you read the troubleshooting guides that people went through when they contact to Google and we're like, hey, this thing fucking sucks.
So the big pitch for Stadia is, dude, it's like super cheap.
You can use it on your existing devices, right?
You it's easy, right?
Yep.
Here comes the troubleshooting guide.
One, make sure you have an ethernet cable.
Two, make sure your router's in the same room as your device.
Three, maybe get a better router.
And there's a PC gamer guide to all the equipment you should buy to make your Stadia run better, which comes up to like two hundred and fifty dollars, which fucking nullifies the whole premise.
I say like, yeah, there was the other thing I saw was like a collection of like headlines and like the
headlines on all these review sites were basically trying to like outpun each other.
Oh, yeah, with different ways of saying just fucking don't just don't like that's all they were trying to say.
But they're finding different ways of, you know, like whatever, like, I think the saddest thing is this is like the review units or whatever, right?
They were sent out primarily to people in big American cities and especially San Francisco, where all the tech writers are.
You know, the the the capital of the of the Google Digital Valley.
Yeah. And it doesn't work there.
So where the fuck is this thing supposed to work?
Now, wasn't there like a but also a bit of a story where like this was pushed back a bit because it was supposed to be out.
Yeah, it was supposed to be out a couple weeks earlier.
Yeah, it was supposed to be out last month.
Yeah.
Um, and and, you know, then there was somewhere that I read someone's something, you know, this is someone somewhere, somewhere, said something, yeah, and to the effect of somebody said it, a lot of developers are afraid that Google's just going to like
Oh, that was a that was a series of quotes from developers going, yeah, I don't think this thing's going to exist.
Right.
So so that's what's the people are like not spending their time with this for that purpose, because it's like then it goes away.
There's there's all little bonus like baby ones like, hey, you know how it's an ethics for games, even though it's not an ethics for games at all, because you still have to buy the games.
Yep.
Well, let me tell you, if you buy a Stadia subscription, you can get Destiny two for free, a game that literally went free to play two months ago.
No,
that deal got fucking made before the cutoff date.
Like that is stupid.
Like Stadia, as technology, like in the most optimistic way, when it eventually works, because we've been through on live.
Yeah, we've been through multiple iterations.
The other ones, the other one that was not on live.
Yeah, you remember that one?
Yeah, they're that one.
And I've also watched PlayStation now.
I have played PlayStation now.
It's OK.
I've watched it work in this house.
Yeah, I would probably say PlayStation now in its current implementation is better than the Stadia right now.
Yeah.
Steph played the entirety of P five over PS now from my Vita TV on a different TV than the one that I'm playing like my stuff on.
Yeah.
So like, I've seen that do the thing.
Stadia, like if and when it ever works, seems like best suited for maybe being middleware slash a value add.
It's no chiral network.
I'll fucking tell you that.
No, it's not a chiral network.
It certainly is not.
It feels like it's at best.
It could be middleware or a value add that they could like approach existing consoles with to be like, yo, you might be able to
like, you know, pitch the idea of people playing on different screens.
Well, I should point out that like Microsoft is doing like Microsoft is doing a cloud now or some shit.
Yeah, they're doing something.
X-Cloud.
X-Cloud is really similar, except they're tying it to their game pass thing, which is actually Netflix for games.
Yes.
That's that.
So that's one big part.
And also one Sony and I mean, Google is a big fancy tech company.
Yes.
But hey.
But Sony and Microsoft make fucking games.
But hey, hey, X-Cloud is already dead in the water.
Why is it 720p and nowhere near the power of Stadia.
Did you see?
Did you see?
Is that from Thor on Twitter?
That's Thor.
Oh, man.
Thor, you fucking you bodied him Thor.
Oh, man, you got him, Thor.
Got him.
You won tweet Twitter account that follows only the Google study official Twitter account.
Not to be fair, it's it's very easy for someone to just do that.
Yeah, you're right.
Because that's a hilarious thing to happen.
Oh, totally.
Right.
It's very easy for someone to make a fake account and then make it follow one account.
Just create an astroturf.
And then go exactly go defend Stadia and then come and post a screenshot of it.
Very easy.
It takes about 10 minutes.
But still, though, it's still funny.
I don't care.
Yeah, I don't care if it's real.
Yeah.
Um, I feel really good that our initial we had, we went through like a like a process
with Stadia, which was like skepticism tinged with a hint of anxiety.
Worry, right?
I remember when I was worried, followed by like gut busting, like hilarity, laughter,
which is also immense relief, followed by excitement for shit, followed up with.
Oh, boy, look at this shit.
And it's going to it's like they can't kill it fast enough.
I'm going to get many jollies out of this shit.
It's fucking bad.
Did you?
Oh, I forgot.
Did you see the press article they put out three, four days ago about what Stadia's
competitive edge over the other console says Google's.
Sorry, Google put this out.
Yeah, Google put it out.
All right.
So Google finds that a lot of consoles these days are really masculine focused.
So what they're going to do is they're going to appeal to the female gaming market
by creating more gender neutral controller colors, such as white and black.
That's not real.
That's so real.
Well, it's so real.
Not even remotely real.
Shut up.
Google Stadia.
Controller color.
Come on.
Come on.
Uh, the videos.
It was a couple of days ago.
Well, you'll find it eventually.
It's real.
That are you sure didn't say hard times?
I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure though nowadays it's getting harder to tell
the recent hard times where Jeff Kealy admitted that the game awards was just
an excuse to hang out with Hideo Kojima thought it was real.
Thought it was real.
Well, it's good to hear that we're finally going to be able to get
white and black controllers.
What do you prefer?
Do you prefer because now is the moment, right?
Yeah.
Now is the moment where you get to choose.
Do you choose this ends tonight?
At 9 PM or do you choose this ends in 2035?
Okay.
I would.
I would.
Okay.
If it ends tonight, do I do I get Phil Harrison, like an interviewing
somebody going, yeah, like some pathetic fucking excuse.
You get the same press release of video that they did to begin with with
the stage and the screen and someone coming out to talk to you to explain
why it has to go right now.
I would prefer tonight.
You'd prefer tonight, by the way, as opposed to the slowest bleed out.
I'm calling.
I'm calling 18 months.
It'll be gone.
Also, let's see.
Video games.
Chronicle.com.
Google's Google Hope study is gender neutral design.
I found it.
Oh, you found it.
I found it.
Okay.
And I put my my phone down.
It's real.
I found it.
Oh, yeah.
That's all.
And green green is the is the gender neutral color.
Nice.
Yes.
That's cool.
I didn't know that thing.
That's that's information.
How about that?
Because there's never been a motherfucking green Xbox controller, you know, too
many years, quite frankly, of blue and pink controllers.
Yeah, I think I think that shit needs to stop.
We need to stop with these blue and pink controllers all over the place.
Just being the default controllers like of every generation.
Pink is a really rare controller.
There's the Minecraft Xbox controller cut like the pig one.
And reds gender neutral, like red's a common color for controllers.
But it can be like either or like, what the fuck?
That'll save steady.
Oh, sure.
One like that's actually applicable there.
Yeah, someone got told to write good news.
Aren't most colors that are not pink and blue?
Oh, are my just about 95% of colors throw a dart at the color.
There's a couple purples that I think if you throw a dart at
the color wheel, will you not just pretty much land on?
I think there's a couple thing that a couple purples that are a little pinkish.
So people say they're girly, but I stills.
Yeah, maybe, but also apparently back in the 1900s, pink was for boys
and blue was for girls and it got switched up at some point.
Yeah, really?
Now, I'm not sure what the switching point was, but yeah, that was a thing.
Well, it's almost like it's completely arbitrary.
I was up there, please.
Everyone look forward to coming to my controller reveal party.
Yes.
That will accidentally burn down half the city and murder a lady and crash a plane.
Oh, yeah.
In the process of showing you the color of my controllers.
No, that's always a good time.
Wow. OK.
That went places I was not expecting.
It's it's it's a it's a fucking shit scramble.
Oh, and also people have gotten their hands on the Stadia controller.
I'm going to paraphrase skill up.
I'm a big fan of who got a hold of it and described it as that piece of shit
that you would give your little brother because the good controller was yours.
The lightest, flimsiest piece of shit he'd ever used.
I love so much how everyone gets that.
Like everyone this generation understands exactly what that controller was.
What the wire was chewed out and the fucking floppy
ass stick was wiggling all over the place.
The N64 third party ones were by far the worst.
They were so bad.
The PlayStation ones were pretty bad, but it was the analog stick
that was the point of failure that was unbelievable.
If you talked for like two minutes, you think like
like because I could go try to find my worst controller right now.
I could try.
I'm not sure.
I think I have.
I think I have like an abortion of a Dreamcast controller or two
and probably one of those N64 ones may be a Gamecube one.
Give me a second.
The N6.
So well, he's going to come back with the stock Dreamcast controller
and some old Dreamcast pieces.
Shit.
Stadia's.
Really funny.
And more than anything, all I can think of is that
it's one of two things.
It's the desire of someone somewhere to get promoted by saying
they shipped a product or it is the desire of Google to be like,
what kind of stupid bullshit crap can we trick people into not actually owning?
All right. Oh, Willie came.
But wow, these two rise on this motherfucker right here.
Everybody, I want you to Google the words
Interact Quantum Dreamcast controller.
Enjoy the fucking thing.
It looks like the fucking Wu-Tang controller upside down.
Like I want you to touch.
Oh, I don't want to touch these triggers.
Oh, my God.
This is a weird thing to say, but it's so big and so light.
Oh, those are the work.
Why are they the triggers, despite having what is called a lot of throw
in that you have to click them very far, have a lot of resistance.
They have a lot and the resistance isn't even fucking consistent.
The whole way down.
Now, everyone, I want you to Google GameCube
Pelican of the G3 controller.
OK, look at this fucking that's not as bad as the thing I'm holding.
Nowhere near as bad.
It's nowhere near as bad.
But again, I want you to feel these triggers
and I want you to feel this the stick.
Oh, oh, my goodness.
The sticks, the right sticks.
OK, the left sticks.
Fine.
Well, that's a trash.
Last but not. Oh, my God.
What is up with these triggers?
It feels like the same one is that if they're super long and they have tons
of resistance, there's it's wild.
And it's crazy because the GameCube right trigger was really bad.
It's one of the worst that ever shipped on an official one.
But this is just terrible.
Last but not least, I want you guys to Google the hip gear.
Oh, my God, layers, gamepad for the GameCube
and take a look at this fucking thing over here.
That looks like from far enough away, like it could be official
like in terms of its shape.
So the main thing, the main thing here is the C stick.
OK, I got this and here you get that.
All right. All right. All right. All right.
The triggers are actually fine on this one.
This one. Yeah. Yeah.
The buttons are fine.
The regular analog stick is fine.
The deep adds good.
Oh, this C stick.
Oh, my God, that is horrible.
Yeah. Yeah.
That is the fucking worst.
It's got like increasing resistance as you pull it out.
So it's super small.
It's like a nipple.
It hurts your thumb.
It hurts your thumb to press it.
Oh, I don't like it.
That that thing, you know, playing Mario Party,
playing whatever the fuck, having to wiggle that C stick around.
And it doesn't it doesn't come out far enough
that you could use your palm either.
No, um, we had another one that's like lost to the ages,
but it had a fan in it that literally blew air at your hands
to cool you down while you sweat because that was a feature people needed.
So predating the term sweaty.
No, I'm I kept a bunch of these fucking things, dude.
Those are abominations.
You never know. You never know.
It says a lot that like I've used types of these like
right, these types of controllers, pelican hip gear.
But I never ever actually used an old mad cats
because no one I knew was stupid enough to even attempt to buy one
because they looked like even from 10 feet away,
you could see that it was the worst piece of shit.
You can you can judge the plastic and see how shiny it is.
Yeah, yeah, it's the it's the level of shine.
And just no, you don't want to hold that to shiny bad.
Not shiny enough, also bad.
And I'm kind of salty because I threw out
I had a purple Dreamcast controller where
like the stick on it broke off and just became a pin.
Oh, my God, sticking out at you.
And that's what was underneath the the like the if you pressed the the stick
in too hard, the top layer and gave away to a pin that was it was balancing on.
So at any given moment, you could fucking stab your fingers
in addition to it feeling like the garbage is like the worst plastic.
Yeah, I feel that it's really appropriate that we're
or going through all this old obsolete second rate
trash or third rate trash after talking about the Stadia.
Yeah, yeah, it just it is what it is.
Oh, Christ, I forgot.
I forgot the single biggest piece of Google troubleshooting advice
when you play your Stadia.
Make sure no one else in the house is using the internet at the same time.
Because it can't handle it.
No, which instantly kills it for 99 percent of consumers.
Wait, what's the recommended up?
Oh, it's lower than it is.
Like they'll tell you what the recommended up is, but it's not it's not true.
Because nowadays, like what the fuck at like like
multiple devices are going to like the average house.
My current house is going down internet data at all times.
The average house is going to have two people's phones
and a computer and a laptop 24, 24, 7.
Right. Connected to that thing. Right.
Like, all right.
So let's break it down who the Stadia is for.
One, they live in a major American city.
Preferably, San Francisco.
Two, they are single with no kids
so that no one else can steal the internet juice.
Three, they're really interested in playing video games,
but not the latest games and they don't have a console already.
Yes.
Those three things don't mix.
If you're single, real single
and you're into games, you're playing games already.
You're putting your disposable income into the dumb bullshit like the video games.
Could this situation create
a moment where someone literally has to yell over and say, mom,
get off the phone.
I need to try to play my Stadia.
Like, maybe could we actually go back to those years going back?
Because that would be fucking fantastic series of tweets in which a guy described
working at a computer company called Sun Microsystems.
Oh, my God, Sun Microsystems.
I used to buy computers from them. Right.
Sun Microsystems. Yeah.
And Sun Microsystems was going out of business
because they were getting fucked.
So they they and this was a long time ago
and they decided, OK, what can we make
and then sell and they created what is essentially a desktop computing version
of the Google Stadia like a decade ago or more.
And the way it would work is that you would have a blade.
And it was this. It looked like a Nintendo Wii.
Like it was it was angled off your desk and you would come in
and you would put in what looked like a it would your company ID card
would have a chip in it and you would plug it in and it would pop up your desktop
because it was all running off a super server somewhere else in the building.
And this person described that it was absolutely incredible for office work
because you would go to your boss and be like, dude, I don't know how this works.
And he's like, OK, let me see your shit.
And you would plug the card in and your fucking desktop would come up and it was
the craziest shit ever. Yeah.
And then they went to sell it and never sold it once
because there was literally no pitch to the average consumer
because you needed this massive server and what like it's a computer company.
Of course, they have a fucking massive server in the bay, right?
And but the average consumer, it didn't mean shit.
It was back in the who was and he takes the example of that's what Stadia is right now.
Instead of going, hey, what do people want?
They go, what can we sell?
Right? What do people want?
They want Netflix for games.
That's a legitimate value.
Even if it played like shit, if you told me ten bucks a month,
you get access to what the fucking week with the Nintendo Virtual Library should be.
Tons of people will hop on that.
That's a great deal.
Once again, Xbox Game Pass actually exists.
But what can we sell?
Well, we don't have the cloud in the gaming space to actually make those deals
because people don't trust us.
Yeah. So we'll just say buy the subscription and then buy the thing.
And then consumers go, wait, why should I buy the thing and then buy the sub?
And then you take away the thing instead of just buying the thing over there?
Now, is it am I naive for thinking that like there if this was pre alphabet Google,
you know, that we would have heard about Stadia as a background project
being developed on the campus and it would have been tested for years.
And yeah, you would you would you would see interviews and somebody got something
interesting. We got we're kind of looking at gaming right now.
The code name is Stadia.
It's like a distributed thing.
And they'd be kind of open about it.
And they're like to like right now we were trying to get the lag down.
When we first started, it was like really, really massive spikes.
Now we're getting those down and kind of pinging.
And you know, but like it would have been this like in progress.
It would be somebody's fucking work project that some people were just exactly
on their free time that they get paid for at the campus to just be like,
yeah, see if you can figure out this and they're paying for it.
Because they're like, well, if you nail this one, we're going to make shit.
Zillion dollars. So keep working on it until you die.
I mean, like or and at or it just goes the way of Google Glass.
Or it's like, hey, we have this interesting idea.
Yeah. Maybe it'll be something.
And then it's like, no, people got creeped out by it.
Well, Google's internal culture has very obviously changed over the past couple of decades.
And then let's just sell it to companies.
But yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Like the idea of like shipping
a like shoddy ass, incomplete, unready thing
way ahead of time, not caring about how it actually applies
when you try to turn it on or not trying or not caring about the end result
of like the environment you're going to be in when you try to use this technology
and saying that people will just get used to not owning what they purchased
is so irresponsible and silly that like the idea of brute forcing,
it doesn't seem like a Google move.
Jim Sterling, that older Google sense in his typical way,
pointed out something really smart, which is a Phil Harrison quote,
which we made fun of at the time, which was that, well, ISP.
Oh, God, it's so stupid.
ISPs want to make their customers happy.
So it's in their interest to raise data caps to meet the thing of Google Stadia.
Yeah. And it's like, one, that might be the most naive thing I've heard
about telecoms ever, but two, Google is currently fighting,
I think Comcast in the Kansas City area, tooth and nail in court
over they want to just install internet in general and Comcast
or whatever companies there is like, nah, man, nah, fuck off.
Right. How does Google not know that?
It's almost like they're pretending to not know that,
almost as if they're ignoring that that minor detail.
The the PlayStation will teach them discipline.
Oh, right. Oh, my God.
And so a lot of people don't know what the fuck you mean by that,
because that's old.
That's an old quote.
That's that's that's classic Ken from 10 years, 10 years ago.
Yeah, maybe maybe more than that.
Eleven, I think maybe more than where the PlayStation three was
announced at five hundred and ninety nine US dollars.
And when people went, what the fuck, man?
Ken Kuduragi, the father of the PlayStation, said,
I want this to be a high value luxury item.
I want people to have to go get a second job to pay for this.
And then Ken Kuduragi went away.
Forever, the PlayStation three will teach them discipline.
Our product will bend the market towards itself.
Right.
So, yeah, not to mention that other thing from years ago where Google
wanted to bathe North America in Wi-Fi via satellites.
Not sure what happened to that, but satellites are expensive.
Well, there's that.
And there's also a fuck ton of companies that have a very vested
interest in seeing that not launch and would probably invest in a small
land to air missiles, land to space in an attempt to catch it in mid flight.
Now this thing going to happen, we'll take the fine, we'll take the fine.
A fucking Comcast labeled surface to air missile.
Try to intercept it as Google launches it like fuck you, man.
No way.
Are you getting that off the ground physically and metaphorically?
So the Stadia is exactly what everyone thought it was going to be.
The overwhelming cynicism of the internet, like the the internet
in its in its plurality has become a hyper accurate, cynical product viewer.
Oh, yeah.
And I'm I'm I'm preparing to stare that down like this week, actually.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Because it happens when it happens, you know.
But that like that the new guilty gear is not the old guilty year.
No, you know, so that's that's something that happens for sure.
But but yeah, Stadia Stadia, whatever you want to call it, who cares?
Yeah, is one of the few that it's one of the few that comes along.
Like in that fallout 76 kind of way, we're just like, oh, this is all deserved
because like, what did you think would happen?
What did you think?
Did you did anyone at Google think that this thing was going to launch
and people were going to be so enraptured by the concept that they
literally like imagine that it was better than it was?
Or how did your market research team not bring you back?
Something that was just a big red bar?
I am not yet.
I am very much in the belief that there are two types of people who worked on the Stadia.
The true believer, Silicon Valley, San Francisco person
in which was responsible for testing the real
I'm using big fucking air quotes on this real world conditions
of only testing the Stadia in the Bay Area.
And the person who goes, oh, yeah, I know this thing's going to fucking fail,
but we need to ship it to show the company that we were working on something.
What flopped harder, the Stadia or the Ooya?
Oh, God, the Ooya came out.
You could purchase one and play a video game on it.
The Ooya was crowdsourced.
It did exist.
And it did the thing that it said it would do.
It just wasn't. It just sucked.
It just people just didn't want it.
Now, I will say that the Ooya does have, to my knowledge,
the worst controller ever released with any console of all time.
Did you not just hold?
No, no official controller.
Yeah, you are also that's no.
OK, hit me because you have to remember the Ooya official controller
was so bad that you could press in on buttons
and they would go underneath the shell and become stuck permanently.
The Panasonic three dough.
Oh, yeah, that's I forgot.
I forgot about the whole the whole side generations.
The whole the whole hole.
Yeah, there was a hole in the controller
that gave your thumb blisters when you pressed it, right?
Yeah, yeah.
And the whatever one it was, one of the old ones that was just a TV remote.
So that's the Coleco vision or something.
I mean, if you go back far enough, sure.
You know, man, Atari really nailed it with that first one.
There's also those hotel room consoles
that would have a half remote, half controller sometimes.
Those were wild. Oh, my God.
But the three dough or three Dio
fucking gave you blisters for using it.
So nah.
But anyway, the Ooya came out and did have its games
and was a usable playable console.
It also cost like ninety nine dollars.
There was that.
You know, and it was a cube.
That's cool.
Um, yeah, I think I think
all the current hardware manufacturers in the industry
are going to basically just look at this situation,
take notes and apply it to late next gen.
But push it back another five, guys.
You know, and in the meantime, yeah, like we're going to see
streaming options on like probably every new
every every follow up console to the ones we currently have.
I think the craziest thing is that this bullshit gives me a new
appreciation for PlayStation now in that, like, yeah, it's not a very good
service, but like it's a little baby side service.
It's like a test that you could pay for, I guess, if you wanted.
It's it's definitely not like a major push.
It doesn't have its own fucking box.
Yeah.
And to go hand in hand with it, I mean, we're talking about like how like
there's the Xbox Game Pass for Netflix, the games thing.
But there's also the fact that like Apple just allowed you to pair your
controllers with your phone. Yeah.
So like there's the other side of it where you just don't even need to like
who is interested in video games and does not have one video game device?
Because the study, it doesn't make any sense if you own any other video game
device ever.
It's probably more along the lines of I want to jump into this generation
and I haven't jumped into this.
I'm going to jump into this generation when consoles are the cheapest
they've ever been with one year to go before the next one.
Like I think that's the funniest thing.
We're comparing Stadia to the Xbox one and or and the PS4 when it's like
those new ones are coming out next year.
Remember, remember when we like used to look at things like the in between
generation, like the weirdness of the Dreamcast, the weirdness of the
Dreamcast handhelds were always staggered weird, right?
And you're like, what are you doing?
You're you're breaking the flow, right?
This is in between the four year cycle.
And now we're in these way longer than that cycles and we're getting
micro mini upgrades and like hardware pushes.
I like the long cycles.
The long cycles are better.
The long cycles are better, not just for the consumer, but for the developers
because the end end cycle games are always like on a system that we finally
understood, you know, it takes a while for people to really get it.
I really feel the PS2 could have gone for like another two years.
No problem.
I mean, like it continued for 10 beyond.
It's you know what I mean?
It's no, but I mean, like a big mainstream two more years.
People learn over the course of a generation how to use the console better.
And that comes over the course of releasing multiple games.
It's also good for PC players and a lot of PC players would disagree with this
because they're stupid, but the longer a console generation goes on, the longer
your PC upgrades maintain their value.
Yeah, I guess there's that.
You don't even steam has a like a fucking streaming screen service.
Yeah, like the steam link and exactly like that's all there.
Like, yeah.
So, um, no, that's why this is just such a like it's just
a hilarious story because you're like anyone, anyone that had any basic like
send someone out to a regular person's house and ask them a couple of questions
and maybe plug in your thing and test it like anyone that collected
that kind of data would come back to Google and say, yeah, this doesn't work.
Well, they they did go out of regular people's houses.
They went down to the street in the mission.
Yeah.
And they they talked to a couple of people there and then they they went
on a couple blocks further south near the near the you know, the the river
is our the the coast of the bay.
And then they they talked to those people and then they went down to the
GameSpot offices and tested them in that office.
And what else do you need to do?
Where else do you need to go off the island?
What are you fucking crazy?
That's like the wilderness out there.
Apparently, they just announced the mobile app.
So. Oh, oh, yeah.
I forgot about that.
You can't buy games on the stadia.
Wait.
What?
You have to use your Google app on your phone to buy games on the stadia.
You have to go to the app store on the yeah, on your phone.
The actual box has no way to access its own store.
That's a good plan.
How is that not the actual first thing?
That's a really good plan.
You can't. Yeah. OK.
No, no store in the in the US on the no nothing.
No ability to make monetary purchases.
What if your game has like shut up?
Use your phone.
You got my showdown has DLC.
Use your phone.
How is your week?
I was all right.
I'm going through a sleep deprivation thing, which is really bad.
But aside from that.
I'm going to blame Mr.
Redis and his funky fetus for this, I say, as I hold up a can of Monster Zero
Ultra.
The sugar free ones are fine.
Yeah, they are there.
They're all right.
I honestly, it could when it comes down to it, like I judge him by how
tangy that aftertaste is and how strong the taurine.
It's a lot easier to drink this as a drink than Red Bull is, I'll be honest.
Have you had the rehabs?
I've not had the rehabs.
You might like them.
So if you ever feel like it, you can try out.
There's like a monster rehab iced tea, for example.
It's a sugar free and it has no carbonation.
It just tastes like iced tea.
Hmm. Let's see.
Yeah, monsters. All right.
But not the sugar ones.
The sugar funds taste like piss.
They're really bad.
And I do need my extra 10 percent stamina.
I don't know how the fuck Norman drinks three of these in a in a row.
He's not a real person.
Must be the dooms.
Must be the dooms.
Must be the dooms.
Um, where's that?
Where's that going?
I don't know.
I still don't know what dooms is.
Damn, how many hours?
Four streams worth.
Four streams worth plus plus 10 hours off stream.
So 25.
Chapter five, chapter four, chapter, chapter four.
Um, I don't know.
Well, I'm going to talk about this training in a bit.
No, fuck, you want to talk about this training now for it?
It's really good.
Infrastructure is fun.
Here's does the middle of the game drop off with the narrative?
You need to be a little more clear in your question.
I don't really know.
You get a decent amount of propelling the story forward.
Yeah, I'm actually really surprised after your mission.
The pacing is on point.
There is a you haven't hit a part where the games just went.
All right, Sam, here's 10 missions.
No, absolutely not.
Go do them and we got nothing to say.
There are there are there are two things.
There are there.
I would say there are three, uh, gameplay goals in depth in the death stranding.
One is and they'll eventually it's funny.
They don't do this at the beginning because there's not there's less choice.
But when you look at your mission screen, there's orders for Sam.
And there's regular orders.
Orders for Sam will often have one order that has like glowing gold, like energy on it.
That's your story mission.
All right, the story mission will have a significant amount of at least dialogue
over the radio with dead man or diehard man or whoever you're delivering it to.
Unique, unique.
It will have a it will have usually a cut scene, oftentimes in the rest area.
Or it will have some kind of novel gimmick, like a story mission.
Is the first time that you're going to have to go into a highly
BT fucked area to get cargo and return it.
Yeah, right.
Stuff like that.
The pacing on those story missions is actually really solid.
It basically it usually goes get to the new location, like physically travel there.
Then upon scoping out this part, this part, this part, this part, do a tough
delivery usually involves mules, do a long delivery, do a tough delivery in false
BTs, right, then do a delivery that goes the entire length of the map that you've
explored so far, big event.
And they all the pacing is is pretty fucking consistent so far.
And after every two of those, you get some new toy.
You get everything from a bike or the ability to make a new type of ladder
or the unlock ability to make your own safe houses or a little floaty carrier.
Does that have any use?
Your own safe houses?
Yeah.
Yeah.
When you start to get to locations that don't let you rest or fabricate equipment.
Okay.
Because that means the resources required for that were like, they're enormous.
Yeah.
And they require a special type of resource that you don't even have available.
Okay.
But oh, yeah.
No, they're the longer you go in the game, the more you get to these, these
like these delivery points that don't have the ability to rest at them.
Don't have the ability to fabricate equipment.
Yeah.
So I mean, like on paper, it sounds almost like a like an Ubi Tower, where you
get to the tower and then like a few missions around the area to learn the layout.
Well, once you pop people on the network, it's the opposite of the Ubi Tower.
Instead of giving you more activities, it actually makes the activities
you already have way easier.
Have you got, have you got another part where bridges have been showed up?
I think that's right around where I.
Okay.
Because the biggest turning point in the game is all there.
Sorry.
The biggest turning points is when new forms of infrastructure unlock.
And the first one is the bridge that they showed off in the trailers.
And the bridge consistently makes the biggest difference because it nullifies problems.
Yeah.
It takes a chasm and says who gives a shit.
It takes a river that would otherwise be impassable for a kilometer up and down
and goes, who gives a fuck?
Yeah.
And I have currently unlocked a second form of infrastructure, which I have
spent hours on stream with people building.
And everyone's like, yeah, just build it.
Woo, it's weird.
Wait, Minecraft?
No, because the.
Are you sure?
I'm.
No, the infrastructure that I'm talking about roads.
And eventually the map becomes so large.
Okay, that building roads is a thing you're going to need to do.
But the roads are set.
You're not saying I'm going to build a road in this location.
You're going to a road spot and saying I want to dump a lot of materials
into make a road here might, might, might be Minecraft.
Um, Minecraft.
So I was going to argue with you a little harder.
Until I saw a video of a man using a zipline system that he spent five
plus hours building Jesus fucking Christ that, uh, ziplines extend 300 meters.
Right.
And the zipline system in the game is actually really intense because it's
not, uh, actual rope.
It's just like a, a point and those ziplines will connect to any zipline
within distance, which means you, it can be a little network.
Right.
It's not, it's not like, it's a ski lift of points that you're dropping.
Right.
But you can say there's like five in a little circle.
You can point to anyone in any order.
And so this guy just, this guy just spent five hours building them
all around the mountains and said, well, wow, don't have to use roads.
Don't have to, it can pretend that rivers don't exist.
Yeah.
BTs, you are going fucking fast on those ziplines.
Like they have no chance.
But what about the mules though?
Will they use them?
No.
Okay.
Um, so yeah, they're like, I feel like they would sabotage them.
The, the longer you go in the game, the more tools, so the more it's,
it's this nice little balance, the more environmental problems you're
likely to encounter, the more BTs are everywhere.
Yeah.
The more mules are taking up big parts of the map and a mechanic that
it gets introduced later is that timefall will start to move.
Um, and have its own weather pattern that you should plan around.
As, as that happens, you will get, you will almost always get a direct
solution to that new problem.
Do you find yourself doing a lot of like rust repair?
No.
Okay.
Um, you could just get better protection.
You container, do you unlock container spray?
Oh yeah.
So that will help a lot.
Okay.
Most of the stuff that actually takes container damage is stuff you're
going to deliver.
Uh, the, all the gear that you carry takes damage, which can't be healed.
Yeah.
But you'll use it.
Yeah.
You'll use it.
And it doesn't matter until it hits zero.
Yeah.
Ladders, climbing ropes, all that shit.
Yeah.
Um, at 1%, it's just as good as at deliverables.
It doesn't matter until, unless they actually take damage.
Yeah.
The container doesn't matter.
Yeah.
But the damage, I think of container as armor.
Yeah.
And then, and then the, and then the life on the item.
Yeah.
Determine zero gives you less rewards.
Yeah.
Uh, there have been new types of gameplay.
Like they're, they, they do introduce.
Hey, here's melee combat.
Well, I don't know what you were going to say.
I thought you said they introduce.
Hey, like just bear horses.
Hey, no, no, that sounds like a Kojima mechanic.
No, if you said that, I believe they're like, we've unlocked.
Hey, they do, they do in a fashion allow you to unlock wheat.
I'm not joking.
Um, but they'll unlock, uh, they'll explain melee combat and melee
combat has, I mean, it's not the most in debt, but it's there.
It's there.
Shooting becomes.
Fucking Garot, some other fuckers.
Yeah.
Shooting becomes more pronounced.
There are shooting sections, which, uh, I feel comfortable saying
because they, they did a demo of one at one point.
There's the, it's the world war one section that you saw in some of the trailers
where it's like, here's a gun, go shoot some ghosts.
Kojima retweeted a video of someone, uh, running out of a BT like puddle
and turning around and pissing on it.
Yeah.
And then it went away.
Yeah, they hate it.
That's an actual way of fighting back.
Well, woolly, the, because of you, you haven't gotten to this point, but
you remember how there's blood grenades, right?
That they showed off that your blood hurts BTs.
Okay.
They show that in a demo.
It's fluids.
Yeah.
It's Norman Reedus.
Sorry.
Sam, I literally call him Norman Reedus almost the whole time.
Yeah.
I forget his name is Sam.
Norman Reedus is body because he, because he is a repatriate and suffers
from the dooms, uh, his bodily fluids, all of them, uh, repel ghosts.
So, uh, you can have sweat grenades.
You can have PP grenades.
You can have poo poo grenades.
You can have blood grenades.
And there are a variety of other blood weapons that you will unlock, uh, but
men straight and poo on these ghosts and the different to deliver your box of
different fluids have different levels of strength.
Your poo is stronger than your sweat.
Your blood is the strongest of all.
Do we know that for sure?
Yes.
Because they're named number zero, number one and number two grenades.
Zero is sweat.
Number one is P and number two is poo.
That's why you have the ability to go to the bathroom, sitting down or standing up.
What about something a little more viscous?
Mm-hmm.
Firepower.
No, no, not listed.
You know, that shot of the end of the trailer for, uh, I think it was a pitch
black where, uh, I want to say Vin Diesel lights up a torch and then all the
monsters go, yeah, that's right.
Is that what happens every time you bust one out?
That's right.
Just.
Well, luckily enough, woolly, there's almost no busting any of them out back
in the death stranding.
That's why you have to deliver them big boxes that come.
As opposed to using it.
Yes, that's right.
Gotcha.
Um, the more emails I read and the more interviews I read with characters, the
weirder and more nonsensical this universe Sam, we had no hope.
We were all sitting here going, what the fuck?
This world is over.
America's dead.
And then you showed up and you brought some boxes and now we're like, yeah, we
can get back out there.
We can save America.
The smiley face, smiley face, heart thumbs up the level of optimism associated
with the delivery of a pair of old CDs is astonishing.
It it's almost like a message written from the ace combat world.
Yes.
What if the ace combat world became fucked?
But the people remain the same.
Um, I think the whole game, I think that tone is like underwritten by the fact
that the very first big deal delivery is you deliver like kilos upon kilos of
oxytocin.
Because people need it to get through the day, which I like everyone's kind of
normal, but the only reason everyone is normal is because everyone is just heaving
down buckets of anti-depressants because the world's really bad.
And you're kind of just waiting for it to end.
Yeah, it's in a pretty fucking dire state.
Yeah.
Yeah, to be fair, a lot of stories about fighting back the apocalypse, like any post
apocalyptic story where you have the solution oftentimes will simplify that
solution with like, I don't know, let's say the first plant seen in many years.
Oh my God, look, it's a plant guy or the cure to the outbreak.
Yeah.
Right.
Inside of this person, maybe even a baby.
Yes.
You know, but in this case, like it is cool to see like a much more procedural
like fixing of the problem.
It's like, no, it's going to take a lot of work.
And you know, you get, you go to the second map after you finish the first,
the second chapter and you leave that first map behind going like, yeah,
that is in a much better place now just because I did some deliveries.
Yeah.
Like if Kenshiro actually had to do more than just blow up some heads.
Yeah.
Maybe plant one tree Kenshiro or like literally like oversee the construction
and you know, like do a little bit of, you know, there is clean up.
I'm really enjoying Death Stranding.
I'm real.
It like it starts to become more like Metal Gear.
Ironically, like more like MGS five because you get a gun.
Yeah.
You get a fucking gun at some point.
I mean, it's it's a bowl of gun.
It's a, you know, wrap, sweep up to not, but like it's a gun and you're sneaking
and you're a lot of it's still delivering.
There's one thing about it that I might be really wrong that I'm like constantly
complaining to my chat when I stream it, which is the story is really weird
and fascinating and all these things.
But there's a couple details that I'm like, don't treat me like I'm stupid.
Don't it's it's this is getting really obvious.
Okay.
This is getting you're trying to underlay some kind of hidden like maybe.
And I'm like, no, it's this.
Koji's bad at hiding his cards.
There's a really good example that I'll use that is not what I'm talking about,
which is the game expects you woolly video game player man to not know
what Troy Baker sounds like if he uses a slightly different voice without a
Southern accent.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
And it's like it's happening and the word one, I'm like, are you are you like
I was offended.
I was like, are you serious?
Yeah.
Do you really expect me to not obviously know that that's Troy Baker's character?
Yeah.
And I refuse to even consider that a spoiler because you will get one word
and you'll go, oh, that's that's Higgs.
That's that's he's right there.
It's he's just he's talking to me.
He's just he's just not Southern right now and he's a little more demure and
it's that's just that's that's him.
And then they have a huge reveal shot in the flashback of him looking up the
campus.
Oh, it was hit.
It's like, yeah, I know.
I fucking know.
Come on.
Give me give me a fucking break.
Are you serious?
Are you are you joking with me?
So there's there's that is like kind of all over in which it's like there are
characters looking dramatically towards the sky crying going, what could it mean?
And I'm like, this is what it means.
I know what it means.
That's obviously what it means.
Master Miller.
What are you talking about?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What are you?
Huh?
And I really feel like I'm going to get like 90% through the game and somebody's
going to turn to the camera and go, it was me all along.
I'm going to go.
Yeah, I know.
And then they're going to have like a like a 10 minute long scene of
standpoint.
Oh my God.
How could how did you fool me?
And I'm like, this is how they fooled you, Sam.
You you idiot you idiot.
Oh, but then that makes the main character dumber and I don't like that.
So that is the best part about the game.
Is Sam and Sam not being snake.
I mean, I've seen clips of the shit he says to himself on route.
Yeah.
And I've heard a few of them and he's just a fucking.
He's a big old goofball.
You know what Sam is?
Sam is a fucking foot trucker.
I think the best example is very early in the game when you first encounter
Higgs and you first encounter fragile and these two separate occasions are
met with big ass fuck speeches about Kojima shit to which Sam almost
verbatim responds, dude, I just want to deliver these packages.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like he's not on board for being in the game.
In fact, people with that same feeling that don't have the ability to do so
probably become mules.
Yeah, so.
But it's just like big speech with your character going, I don't I don't.
She's yeah.
Yeah, what I okay.
Don't shoot ghosts at me, man.
I got to deliver some cargo.
Like it's it's really refreshing and it goes back to something mean you talked
about I think a couple months ago in which tired is the best.
Yeah, protagonist emotion.
But before that cargo.
I got to go drop off some other cargo.
Yeah.
God bless.
Clone high.
I'll also say that Mads Mickelson is killing it.
Yeah, he's the star.
I mean, in the little dream sequences I've seen so far, there's a lot of those.
Yeah, I guess so.
You get them every time you rest unless you've exhausted them now to be fair.
Would it be naive to assume that anybody that got Mads on a project would
not want to save him for hour 90?
You know, yeah.
No, it's like you not.
Would you not want to?
So yeah, I'm I'm pretty deep.
I just saw Mads Mickelson once outside of those flashbacks and it's
like if he was not in those little visions, he would be fucking absent from
huge portions of the game.
And that's insane.
Right.
Yes, like that because all of his friends are front loaded.
You got Sam up top.
You got Amelia.
We used to do as well.
You got Mama soon.
Eventually, the only one that shows up last almost is fucking Higgs, but
he's Troy Baker, so he doesn't care.
You got Totoro San.
Yeah, you know, so like, yeah, you got to use the fucking the Trump card.
Yeah.
That you have in your deck right away and let people know.
Yo, Mads fucking Mickelson and the framing device allows Mads to just
soliloquy directly to a camera.
Yep.
More like dad's Bickelson.
Hey, maybe.
I don't know what that character is about, but he's really cool.
Yeah, well, it's like, yeah, but if you were if you if you are what you say
you are, then you wouldn't be calling it by its like tool name.
But I don't know.
I don't know, man.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Who knows what?
Yeah, it's a it's a it's a good game.
It's a really good game.
I still feel like there is a incredibly appropriate and legitimate argument
for somebody to go.
This is the shittiest game ever made because it like that beginning portion,
the portion that you're doing right now.
If you're not on board, yeah, yeah, it is the worst.
So this is the kind of game where years from now, if someone comes up to you
and is like, man, I fucking hate a death strategy.
Like, yeah, okay, I get it.
Yeah, that's fine.
Okay.
Yeah, like there's no defensiveness.
I'm like, I every everything that I unlock.
Yeah.
Like, let me give you an example.
One of my favorite unlocks was a little mobile carrier that sits next to you
and you can just put cargo on and it tethers to your ass and it just
follows you so you can you can you can just carry like another 100 kilos.
Yeah, I was hoping you were going to say like a little like Metal Gear Mark 2
little little like little robot that would wrote like, no, it's a floating
little tensors floating disk that you put a hundred extra kilos on and you
can you can tether a second one to it.
See, here's the thing and I'm like, I'm looking at this thing.
I'm like, oh, shit.
That means like, oh, man, I can put the cargo on that.
That's crazy.
And if that doesn't do it for you, oh my God.
And then all the troubles that come with that, of course, turning yourself
into a walking 18 wheeler.
Yeah, right.
But early on they had a moment there's a moment where someone in discussion
says that like at first we tried just doing like robot deliveries.
Yeah.
And that didn't work out.
So it makes me kind of wonder like, well, if you had a person there
overseeing it, could you not still have like that's not why robot
deliveries didn't work out because people need that human touch, man.
That's what created the mules, man.
I really feel this game could actually add man to the end of every deep statement.
Strands, man.
Don't you get it?
Sam, we can rebuild America, man.
Yeah, man, we do it.
Yeah, get that chiral network up, man.
He's good.
I'm very eager to talk to you after the next section because
read read it to anybody playing Death Stranding, read all those emails and interviews.
Nukes are bad, man, man.
Woolly.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna sit up and I'm gonna stare woolly in his eyes.
This is a Hideo Kojima production.
Nukes are bad, man.
Yeah.
You can't get away.
No, you can literally.
Yeah, I bet there's a character in fucking Boktai.
Yeah, that's like the vampires exist.
You know how the vampires and shit nukes.
I mean, look, dude, at the end of the day, like we get to see one in like the first mission.
No, that's not a nuke.
Okay, well, that's a void out.
Yeah, I'm saying nukes are bad, man.
And you're like, really here in this setting?
Why?
Because they're bad.
I thought we've worked past this.
No, never.
It's the most ridiculous thing I've ever played.
Listen, man, like some people have their causes, you know,
have you seen Jane Goodall loved those gorillas?
Yep, no matter what else was going on in the world.
Listen, have you seen the clip of Sam riding the bike?
No.
So there's a bike you can make if you saw in the intro.
However, there's an unlockable bike that you can get, which is the ride.
Oh, okay.
Is that the one that comes with the subtitle that comes with the moment?
It's not a subtitle.
It is direct dialogue of you riding along and Sam goes, holy shit.
This is so fucking cool.
I feel like I'm on ride with Norman Reedus right now.
And there are multiple line reads.
I have not gotten there, but people have confirmed that that is real and that
there are multiple different.
And every time he says it, he always, always says ride with Norman Reedus.
The full title.
That's the best line of dialogue in a video game since this is good.
Isn't it?
Yeah.
That's the like peak.
What do you do?
What do you do?
How do you top that like the full on get it turned the can towards the camera?
You know, wow.
Wow.
I love it's the funniest thing in the world.
The ad stuff in this game is the funniest shit ever.
The human condition.
Cup noodle has been dethroned as the best ad in video games.
Oh, fuck me, man.
Why is it?
I feel like I know the answer already, but I want to ask the question.
When American companies, when European companies do ads and games,
it always feels shut up.
I'm sorry.
It feels sleazy.
Yeah, because you just it because the Japanese ones almost like it's
because the product is always some kind of food that is just like the most harmless
nonsense thing to exist.
Like the monster in this thing is like it's almost like that, right?
It's laughable.
We're talking about cup noodles and calorie made.
Sorry.
The reason why I went shut up is because is this real?
Is does someone actually say there's evil within two?
Yes.
Yeah.
No.
Well, you go back to an MPC at the beginning of the game and evil within two and you go
and you're like, dude, you got to get out of here.
You got to get out of the safe house and he's like, I don't want to get out of there.
There's evil out there and then the main character goes.
Yeah, but there's evil within two and they both turn and look at the camera
for a second.
That's fucking great.
Evil within two also has my favorite line of dialogue upon completing a mini game.
I live for this.
There's a there's a there's a there's a mini game and evil within two in which
you go into a room and you do target practice stuff like, you know, shoot the
targets and there's a bunch of levels and you get upgrade points for it.
Once you complete absolutely all of them, right, which is very significant.
It's a big part of the side content.
You get a trophy.
You're an achievement and you get some upgrade points and you get a bunch of
currency and Sebastian goes, I guess I should get back on that saving my daughter thing.
Huh?
And it's like, okay.
Yeah, yeah.
Fuck it.
There's your tone.
Yeah, Japanese games just feel very comfortable reaching out of the fourth
wall and grabbing your dick.
Beautiful.
Beautiful.
Never quit.
Never quit.
But yeah, it really is always some fucking stupid ass.
Like, like, yeah, a calorie mate or, or, or, you know, Werther's original or just,
you know, just fucking nonsense.
Remember when a fucking Mario Kart added like a Mercedes van?
That's, you know, but that's, but that that's the problem, right?
It's like, when you're like, really, you want these kids to fucking feel like they
should go out and get a car, you know what?
I think I, I think I can, I think I can sum it up as a, as like a business phrase.
And that is no attempt at integration.
Right.
In your Western game, you'll try and have the character like wearing a fancy watch
and then they'll get that brand shot of that watch.
But they won't go, Hey, man, I love this watch.
Meanwhile, even at its most subtle ever in Japanese games, which is the sunglasses
and Metal Gear five, they zoom in on the fucking things and have product names
show up in the fucking bottom left and every character has them for some reason.
And they go, Oh man, I sure do love drinking my monster while using my JF
fray sunglasses, which are totally in Death Stranding as well.
Those are the ones on the table.
No, the ones you get later, which are non in universe sunglasses.
They're just designers and glasses.
Like I at least at the very least you want it.
Like if there was a bunch of shit that you're like, Oh yeah, but I also know
that Kojima is way into sunglasses.
Like he's a huge, he's crazy about it.
Right.
Then you could almost be like, yeah, okay, this dude just happens to fucking be in
there and he's hanging out with his sunglasses buddies.
But like, I feel so fucking cool right now.
It's like I'm on ride with Norm Noreen.
Not sons of anarchy.
Oh my God is not anything else.
You know, yeah.
Okay.
And as a result of this, I'm now drinking monster and I have to admit I desperately
want to at least see like a fucking trailer for ride with Norman Reedus
because I need to know what the fuck it is and why there's a muppet on his back.
You kind of want to watch the show.
I kind of want to watch the show now.
That's great.
Fucking mission accomplished.
I've been into a calorie mate once because I needed to know.
It's like a ration.
Definitely.
You know, and quite frankly, look, man, that dude saved saving that channel.
Yeah, right.
He's the one that matters on that show and why not give him another one?
Yeah.
There is one other thing that I want to talk about with Death Stranding, which is
something that you have not encountered yet, but you will start to motherfucker.
If you show up in two weeks and you're like, OK, so AMC's ride with Norman
Reedus is pretty great.
I'm going to fucking turn this whole thing off.
Well, I'll kick the camera over.
Get ready because that Norman Reedus is a darling.
But what I was going to say is there's something very odd that starts to happen
when you deliver packages in this game and it's something start to like that.
I have apologized to you in the past for.
But I will apologize to you again.
About two years ago on the podcast, you brought up a news article in which
Kojima went down to LA to hang out with a bunch of famous people and I lost my
shit going, how is this news?
This is fucking stupid.
If you remember that, I apologize later because that was an overreaction.
I will now apologize again because boy, were you right because you start to
deliver to a wide assorted cavalcade of wildly out of place famous people.
The new the new CEO of Sony.
He'll give you some blood.
You want to hang out with Junji Ito Conan O'Brien.
Sure.
Fuck it.
Jeff Keely.
Yeah.
Famitsu man.
Edgar Wright.
Edgar Wright.
Fuck it.
Wow.
Didn't catch that one.
The CEO of a Canadian based fashion company.
Fuck it.
The guy who's currently got the Mitsu in a shit because he's the CEO of
Famitsu and he's in the game.
The Mitsu gave the game a 40 out of 40.
Yeah.
Fuck it.
Deliver these for Mitsu magazine.
No.
Deliver these old Dreamcasts.
Okay.
Okay.
Now.
Okay.
Now here's the thing though.
Here's the thing.
Right.
Like.
How brilliant of a move though.
To be that guy that's like I have this project.
Mm hmm.
I want you to be in it.
Yeah.
And it's almost like those directors that just never released the movie
but they keep asking like famous friends to come be in it.
Yeah.
So that they can hang out for a while.
Yeah.
It's like that.
There is totally you create a mechanic.
There is allows you to enable.
There is 100% your French moves in a fucking Japanese model that you hang
out with that all I can think of is dude Kajima wanted to bang this chick
and it didn't go anywhere but she's in the game.
Bruh.
It's called the beauty and the beast unit.
That was really obvious.
Like they all need to be sexy naked models for the art.
And have a camera mode in which we will stop the boss fight and begin
a photo shoot.
Photosynthesis.
Yeah.
She needs it to breathe.
Listen they all every photosynthesis is the recurring the best plot
I've ever seen.
Yeah.
Fucking good plot love it.
So at the same time while these games are fascinating and I really like
the big themes boy are they also trash.
They're also like one half step above the sword art online
and a maze.
Oh come on.
That's just really quiet was so bad quiet was so bad and if you don't
believe if you don't know in your heart how bad quiet was you go check
out those YouTube videos where they model swapper with us a lot and
you're like oh man how do I what do I say to him maybe if I present my
ass like a dog.
This is weird.
This helicopter is getting awkward.
Yeah.
That strandings a trip man.
It's a fucking trip.
Every time I sit down with that game I come away like relaxed and happy.
It's a good game.
You else is a good game.
I see that you see what I'm doing here.
That new Jedi fallen order game.
Hey, it's it's pretty solid.
Everyone says so it's not like it's not the best game in the world
but there was a warning about some sort of save bug.
I know about that.
Okay.
I haven't heard or encountered it but that's I'm definitely not going to
tell you it doesn't exist because everything has a safe bug now.
This is interesting because I'm hearing the fallen order is good.
It is and I'm hearing that the Mandalorian is good.
Yes.
And it it re invigorates my belief that once any property gets big
enough all the good shit is to the sides to the sides.
It's the shit that isn't the important thing.
Yeah.
That they have a little more freedom on or or since
they've killed off like everything extra in this case and laser focused
it to a couple of products.
Yeah.
It could we be looking at a course correction like was solo the straw
that broke no back because they also took it away from D&D you play you
play a fallen order and you are like all some big dumb nerds were sad
that you died.
So like the the fucking fallen order is like who cares about
the movies did you guys watch Clone Wars.
Okay.
Like that that's what it's about.
Okay.
And it's a thing I mentioned him a couple weeks in a row now but I'm a huge
fan of Mr. Fields's Twitter shitposts Mr. Fields Wild Ride Wild Ride.
Yeah.
That's not his name right now but it's the one that I remember when I started
following him.
It's great.
It's great.
I wish I could pay him to write my own fucking tweets for me because
they're much better than mine.
No, he's one of those two accounts.
You're just like what's this account about?
It's about shit.
You could ask tweets.
Yeah, that's it.
But he pointed out that hopefully fallen order signifies the shift from every fucking
action game has to be Batman plus franchise to at least it's Dark Souls
now because it's a Dark Souls game.
Whoa.
You didn't know that.
Did you know it's Dark Souls that's super interesting.
It is Dark Souls and it's Metroid in Star Wars universe.
Yes.
And you're going through that type of gear.
You so let me are you changing your like character layout loadout and weapons
that know you have you have your lights a bore.
Okay.
And it goes zoom zoom zoom because it's a laser sword.
You're not picking up weapons.
You're learning force push force pull force stop etc.
And these will allow you to break down walls and explore parts of the map
that you weren't able to explore before.
So you'll get a double jump.
It is actually because your character is not changing.
It is actually way closer to Sekiro.
Okay.
But I'm going to call that souls anyway.
Yeah, it's it's it's Sekiro souls with a much more pronounced Metroid at tense
to it.
You hit select and the map that comes up is it looks like Metroid points and
it a 3D game.
Yeah.
And you get a fucking breakdown of the percentage explored per planet.
How many chests you opened etc.
It's a little buggy.
Like it feels like it could use like one extra month like not not like not bad
buggy but like you sit down and play for a couple hours.
You're going to see one a pose.
Okay.
Fuck off.
How's the lightsaber play?
It's really good.
Okay.
It sounds it makes the right noise and you slice the guy.
There is do you clash?
Do you put up different like when you're fighting lightsaber enemies or what
they're called purge troopers, which is black storm troopers with electrified
weapons.
Do they have the they have the anti lightsaber?
Yeah.
Okay.
The noises and the animations associated with it and the Perry combat is
actually similar to Sekiro.
It's it's your it's the kind of thing where it's like this would be good any
other time but because it's Star Wars and because laser swords are cool.
You go.
Oh yeah.
Oh,
what are your buttons that pertain to combat square slash X is melee triangle
is heavy ish special like you hit you but it requires force energy like it
requires a resource.
So it's heavy slash or dash slash or stuff like that.
Okay.
Right trigger is force push right bumper is force stop left trigger is
I'm going to assume force pole but I haven't unlocked it left bumper is block
or or Perry a full out of okay.
So full on action game.
Yeah.
B or or circle is dodge a is jump buttons are all combat oriented.
Yes.
Okay.
It is it is a fucking combat game.
Okay.
Okay.
Perry a blaster bolt goes right back to a storm trooper and kills them.
When you unlock the minor spoilers when you lock the double play of the lightsaber
hey and you the it's big gimmick is it's not nearly as good for one on one fights
but when 10 guys shoot at you and you just hold the button down it reflects all of them.
It's pretty cool.
But yeah, you run and jump and stab and laser sword and it's good.
Oh, this is one of the shittiest advertise.
Hey, woolly.
Let's talk about EA and respawn.
I don't wanna and advertising and trailers.
This game is a Dark Souls Sekiro ask Metroidvania that is way longer than it looks.
It's not a linear action game with 25 minute set pieces.
So why is it that the only gameplay footage and trailers that came out made it look like
uncharted and not what it actually is because it tried to made a lot of money.
I don't know, man.
Has respawn ever done anything like this?
No, not they I don't think they've ever done a game with or infinity word.
You know, the same people.
I don't think they've ever done one fucking game with melee combat.
Yeah, I'm like, I'm surprised hearing your description of what this plays like
because these are all words that I oh and you're like, wait, this isn't what I thought this game was all.
Yeah, even though you I'm sure you took a look at it and watched footage at some points.
Yeah, because EA sucks.
And why do they buy respawn if they're going to do this to every single one of their games?
Because respawn will still work hard to make a good video game.
I don't know.
This feels this feels like.
You know, when a movie producer is going to be a little out there, but you know,
when a movie producer green lights a movie and then leaves the company, yeah,
the next guy that takes over wants to kill that fucking thing,
because it doesn't have his name on it.
That baby doesn't smell like mine.
Yeah, this feels like that.
Mm hmm.
This feels like respawn got this idea or got this deal or whatever the fuck for the
Star Wars license and then Battlefront fucking happened.
EA wants to buy companies that can succeed despite.
Yeah, yeah.
That's kind of purchase you can make.
It's it's really good.
I am enjoying it a lot.
It's enjoyable.
Okay.
For bigger Star Wars nerds than me, I'm sure there's a lot here because there's
one planet I recognize.
I don't recognize that other planet, but it's where Darth Maul was born.
Oh, yeah.
Right.
And it, you know, his brother cone stuff.
Yeah.
And apparently it was a big deal in the Star Wars rebels or some shit.
I don't know.
So you're enjoying this video game.
I'm enjoying this video game.
Are you enjoying it more than Titanfall three?
No.
Okay.
That's not fair.
I know.
Life isn't fair.
Is it?
It sure ain't.
It sure ain't.
Yeah.
Fallen orders legit.
It's a legit good video game.
Cool.
It is.
It is nice to play something and be like this is a full order of magnitude better than
I thought it was going to be.
And when I was doing it on stream, I was talking and I was struggling to think of when is the
last good lightsaber action game to have come out.
The one they recently re-released or announced for the switch.
So I was outcast.
Oh, sorry.
Academy.
And I, and the mental process was so pathetic because I could, I was thinking about which
was earlier.
Academy or power battles because Jedi power battles is sick.
And it was Academy in fucking 2003.
That was 16 years ago that and I also, I talked at length of like, man, um, I'm, I was racking
my brain and I, and I, and I know I'm not counting unleashed.
Boo.
I landed on the Wii game with the Wii motion plus.
That was all that we had in the office.
Yeah.
That we tested that was like, it's going to be a lightsaber for real though.
No.
Yeah.
So, uh, the answer to your question is, um, fucking Jedi Academy.
Yeah.
And beat saber.
Yeah.
Beat saber is good.
All right.
I disagree, but unleash did happen.
Um, do you want to hear something really stupid?
You want to hear the, the, the worst justification for anything ever?
Hmm.
So what's the, what's the first thing that you do when you load up Jedi outcast?
Well, you put on the fucking mod.
All right.
Well, in Jedi fall in order, you don't have to because you're going to run for, oh man.
It's a rank or equivalent.
And sure enough, when you kill it and you hit it with your laser sword, you slice that
bitch's arm, write the fuck off and cut it in half.
Sprats.
Take that fuckers.
Beautiful.
But then when you fight one of them, they're stormtroopers.
Uh-oh.
They get a little orange Bernie mark on their chest.
And you know why that is?
It's not because of the rating.
And it's not because of the tech.
No, it's because we want to save dismemberment of human, uh, opponents for special moments,
just like Star Wars does, like when people's hands get cut off.
And you're like, no, it's the SRB rating.
So you don't get a fucking default M rating.
Yeah.
Sure.
Uh, it's a massive disappointment and I fucking bet if people dive deep enough, there's a
set dismemberment true equal to one line of code somewhere that you can turn on.
Here's my thought though, right?
Think about there's a rather here's the defense right in movie in any of the movies.
How frequently do you get to see that?
Almost never.
Right.
99% of people that get dispatched with humans, they get dispatched with lightsaber get dispatched
by reflecting blaster bolts back at them.
So their defense can be we're just matching what you that is literally what they're saying.
And I'm like, I don't believe you.
Well, it's fucking cool to slice the storm trip.
I definitely does not look like you're playing Berserk.
Yeah, just with with body parts like flying past you left and right.
Despite the fact that that's what your brain assumes.
The other thing and I don't know if it's associated with that is that the game has an enemy balance
problem in that half of the games cast are various forms of stormtroopers and half of
the games enemy cast are monsters, animals, robots, humanoid style enemies from other planets,
etc.
Droids.
Right.
Stormtroopers.
They're a fucking joke because they're stormtroopers.
Everything else.
Holy shit.
Hmm.
Like I slept walked through like 100 stormtroopers and then saw a goat and the goat fucking sent
me to the continue screen six times in a row.
Like it is it is fucked.
Okay.
Yeah.
No, I was going to say like if you want to ever put the dismemberment test to the limits,
show us what your game engine can do when you just drop a crowd of stormtroopers and
put one Darth Grievous or General Grievous doing the spinny spins and just push him
forward into the crowd and show us what that looks like.
I want to see it.
I want to see it.
Probably do it nowadays.
You probably do it.
Got good tech.
Just do it.
Cool.
Okay.
Yeah.
That's and like and like, you know, oh, just go easy as shit.
I mean, yeah.
Yeah.
Progress point boss fight.
Progress.
Very few boss fights.
Big connected map.
Very, very few boss fights.
Okay.
It's closer to Metroid in that sense.
Lots of isolation and silence or lots of talking and dialogue.
I'd say it's about half half.
Enemies have a lot of dialogue.
There is dialogue from stormtroopers associated with you killing all of the guys with guns.
You killing all the guys that don't have guns.
The last guy left the any level of health that you're at when you enter into the fight
or run from the fight or have one guy left.
Like it's actually really impressive.
And you have your little robot on your back so that you can talk to yourself.
BD one.
You gotta have a cute joint.
You gotta have a cute.
It's a dog.
More than ever before this one's a dog.
Like the way it animates and beeps.
It's a dog on your back that shoots estus into your ass.
Oh, cool.
Okay.
Like it literally fires out little stems that you hit.
And when you do that, you can't attack or barely move.
And it's like, wow.
Okay.
Do you talk to it?
Yeah, you talk to it.
Yeah.
You tell it.
It's a good droid.
Well, the moment you talk to it, it doesn't feel like a dog though.
Yeah.
Like that's the thing about R2 and about Chewy.
You talk to dogs.
No, but the point, the moment, but the moment they respond to you and you go like, I know,
I know dogs talk back.
Oh my God.
Okay.
Like there's, you know how Chewbacca had literal lines of dialogue that they then
dubbed over with the horn nose.
Yeah.
Right.
Or like, like C3PO response to R2.
Yeah.
Like conversation.
Yeah.
Like, yeah, like you're having these, the back and forth.
It's like, no, that's a person.
Well, you're super wrong on this.
Dogs talk.
Cats talk even.
I'm confused.
They talk to you.
Okay.
You have a dog for five, six years.
You know what he's saying.
Okay, but like, but in, I'm talking about like, like actual like conversation points,
not like, yeah, an emotion and then another emotion.
Yeah.
What's the difference between a droid and a dog?
Like, I feel like the, I don't know.
I guess it feels like.
I love looking down and seeing half the people going past and finally lost his mind and people
going, oh yeah, I know what Pat's talking about.
I mean, I know what you're saying when you're just like dogs hungry and under wants to go
outside, paw the door.
Sometimes dog doesn't like what you're watching on TV.
We'll tell you a walk or something like that.
Right.
Um, but like, aren't there points where like, like R2 or, oh, it's like, you got to fix the
ship or whatever.
Or chewy.
Yeah.
It's like, where are you going?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, oh, what do you mean by that?
Like dogs do that.
But what?
I don't know.
It's been too long since you talked to a dog.
No.
Like the dog is conveying a, the dog, the dog has a, uh, uh, uh, you, the dog holds RT
and has a wheel of emotional responses.
Yeah.
The dog has a wheel of emotes.
That's right.
And it's communicating those with you.
Yeah.
But it's, it's not able to form those into a fucking soap stone message.
Yeah.
If you're good at dog listening, you ever watched dog whisper with Caesar Milan?
Oh, shit's great.
That dude knows dogs, but it's using emotes, right?
Sometimes.
Yeah.
Sometimes the dog barks and you're like, oh, I know why you're mad.
Like your dog is someone who uses the emojis on your phone to text you.
Yeah.
There's a lot of emojis, bully.
Right.
But, but, but you, you can't actually give someone like an address.
A dog can't give you, well, it can just walk to it.
Yeah, it can.
But you've proven yourself wrong.
Yes, but it can't verbally give you that.
You don't know that.
Our two and Chu-We can't.
Can.
Are two in Chewy talk.
Our two and Chewy can beep you or growl you a phone number.
Dogs.
Do that.
How?
They, they use their pause to hit the phone number.
Yeah, they get it.
To do it.
I've seen it.
Okay.
All right.
Well, great.
Good talk.
Good talk.
Yeah.
You know who else talks dogs?
Dogs can talk and rats can't swim.
I'm not saying they can't.
I, I, I, I understand the, the, the, the emoji wheel.
They get an, they get an emo, an emo.
You can draw it.
You can wait.
You can teach rats to drive.
I don't know that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So you hook up.
So get this, right?
You hook up a rat to this little like, like surface with some, some wheels on it.
Yeah.
And then it has like three little metal nodes, little electric panels.
And when it touches one, it completes the circuit.
Yeah.
And then you can either rotate left, rotate right or move forward.
Uh-huh.
Right.
So they gave the rat tank controls.
Oh my God.
And then when you give the rat tank controls and it's stuck inside the little, the little
car.
Yeah.
And then you put the food over there.
It will 100% learn how to take controls, rotate its way and drive towards the food.
That's amazing.
It's incredible.
Good job.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You, if a rat is hungry enough, it will deal with bullshit, stupid tank controls.
That's good.
I like it.
Life getting harder for no reason.
Well, you know, cars use tank controls too, right?
Cars turn.
No, they don't.
No.
Cars don't use tank controls.
That's a lie.
What?
Are you saying cars use car controls?
Car?
Tanks don't use tank controls.
Yeah, they do.
Tanks don't use tank controls.
Yeah, they do.
Tanks cannot rotate on the spot.
Yeah, they can.
That's actually super wrong.
Oh, do they lift up?
No, that's the point of treads, dude.
Because they go like this, that one goes forward and one goes back.
Oh, you're super right.
Yeah, you're right.
I'm stupid.
I'm an idiot.
You're too nearly right.
One goes backwards and one goes forward.
Okay.
I want to give you a little golf clap for like, I said something really stupid, which was
cars don't use car controls and you fucking beat me on it with tanks don't use tank controls.
Congrats.
I completely forgot about the fact that the treads go in opposite directions and they
rotate on the spot.
Yeah, that's the whole point, man.
Yeah.
Because if they didn't, tanks would only go forward.
They just go in a straight line, of course.
Yeah, I'm stupid, of course.
Yeah, totally.
Like, how would they ever turn is the answer.
That's dumb.
Boy.
What's up?
Hey, Willie.
I've never been in a tank.
I've stood on one.
Really?
Yeah.
Where'd you stand on a tank?
At ComboCon.
Oh, there's a tank there?
Yeah, cool.
I took a picture of it.
I stood on a tank.
You know what contact?
Big one.
A decommissioned tank.
Yeah, there you go.
There we go.
It's like, yep.
Oh, man.
You know, I don't have a lot of, you ever have that moment where you're like encountering
a traditional masculine or manly interest that you are just all boy, right?
Somebody asked me, Paige asked me, we were waiting for an Uber and she asked me what
kind of car it was.
And I said it was a red car.
And I was like, and then as soon as the words left my mouth, I'm like, shit.
Oh, Uber's the worst because Uber's like, yeah, it's a fucking four tourists.
And I'm like, yeah, got it.
Look for the logo.
Could they just put the logo there for me?
Look for the logo find, because also we also have to explain in Canada, you don't have
license plates on the front of the car.
So you have to walk around to the back to verify the license plate number.
So you can't just look down at it and see, oh yeah, that's my Uber.
So until you get to go behind it, you're looking at the car going, I guess that color matches
and it does sometimes doesn't and it does have a Honda logo.
So sure.
You ever trying it in the wrong car?
Okay.
I know what a car.
Yes, that's happened.
It's bad.
Yeah, it sucks.
Really bad.
People get very weirded out.
Sure do.
And they're right.
Yeah.
It's a Quebec thing.
I know what a Honda Accord looks like and I know what a Civic looks like because those
are the cars that my mom owned.
And I know what a 92 Ford Tempo looks like, a Range Rover, a Pathfinder and I know what
a PT Cruiser looks like and a couple other weirdo cars.
But the ones that just kind of fall into the like, it's a family sedan.
I'm like, I don't know.
What do you want me to do?
Is it blue?
It's a green.
Oh.
What's the thing on the front?
What's the logo on the front?
No.
Yeah.
You ever do the walk around to the back and you're like, you have to kind of casually
do it to be like, I've done that and the guy in the car is like turning around going
like, where the fuck are you going?
What are you up to?
I don't know who you are.
Yeah, like, I don't want to just get in your car.
You look kind of sketchy.
I don't want to just get in your car and you not be the Uber driver.
The photo of you is very small and also looks like it was from 10 years ago and doesn't
look like you at all.
So please understand.
And also the photo looks like a murderer, which is the thing that happens.
OK, well, it depends on what you consider to be a murderer.
A lot of people look like murders.
A lot under certain lighting conditions.
I look like a murderer.
Nice save.
You racist fuck fuck.
How dare you?
Everybody knows white people are the scariest murderers.
Where's the lie?
Yeah, I'll see it.
Well, we win.
Yeah.
Oh, it's not a good one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, like our murders are all like because like you slighted me and like they're super
super petty.
Yeah, which like they're super petty and direct.
Like you did some stupid shit.
Like, I don't know, cut in line at fucking Popeyes.
Duh, trying to get that sandwich, you know, and it's like, yeah, but yours are like, I
need my dick to get hard.
This is the only way it's going to happen.
So I mean, it's just going to have I'm sorry.
What tone down version were you going to say?
Well, I know it's just that like, at least I know that when I'm approaching the aggro
zone, that is the Popeyes chicken sandwich, that the likelihood for this to occur goes
up right in this type of encounter.
It's not like you're walking down the street and some guy go ask you for directions and
the meter's going up, but you don't even know.
Like you don't know when that boner needs to go.
You can't you don't know where it like you don't.
Yeah, there's no there's no reading on depends on what city you live in.
That's your only hint that that can be the shittier the city you live in.
The higher the likelihood that meter's going up.
Boner meter above the character's head.
Look at their fingernails.
I don't think that's always a good, good use of your time, guys.
The boss music didn't play.
There were no life bar appeared.
Yeah, that's the trick.
It's a innate stealth ability, a peer normal while secretly having big murder boner.
Like dialogue options appeared.
Yeah, the A prompt floated over their head.
Yeah.
And then like, what happened?
There's a fun there's a funny corollary to that and RPGs, particularly Western RPGs.
If anybody plays Obsidian and Bethesda RPGs, there's always the same quest.
You go to a house a little bit out of the way and you sit down and everybody in
there is really friendly and you're like, hey, I was looking for my friend
or this guy and they're like, oh, we never seen him.
And they open their mouth and say one word of dialogue and your brain goes
cannibals and you're always right.
Right.
You're always right.
And how quickly can you start swinging between the like as long as
this dialogue is going on?
Can you cancel out of it and just start very quickly?
Yeah.
So there you go.
Uh, I think I want to say something else, but if I could forget.
So I'll just say it later.
All right.
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I remember what I wanted to ask you.
So apparently there's this new fighting game coming out, uh, in the future called,
uh, guilty gear or some shit.
And it looks really good.
You'll take your strife, strife looks really good.
And when I was watching, uh, match footage of it, uh, here and there, there
was some bad quality match footage people were uploading.
Uh, luckily, uh, there's, uh, 25 ish minutes of high quality match footage on, uh,
some channel called woolly versus, um, that I was watching earlier today.
Um, and I was like, boy, fuck this looks sick.
Mm-hmm.
And I was like, man, I really want to play fighting games.
And then I'm like, shit, I'm bad at all the fighting games that are out right now.
And none of them are new.
I feel fucked.
Like no matter what I do or pick up, I will enter into the arena, become fucked
and be sad.
What do you, what do you actually do in that position?
Well, I mean, right, you, you, it's the way I feel when I'm not playing like the
games that you did put your time into.
So, uh, the way you feel about that is like, yeah, I, I did not put the time
into a warframe.
I did not, you know, uh, yeah, there's a million get into like any of the things
that you did.
Yeah.
So it's just the, it's just the flip side of where you put your time.
The difference is, is that those games don't have a other person that be too
mercilessly and makes you feel like a tiny baby.
I guess it depends which one, but in most cases, yeah, right?
It's just like, yeah, I was like, oh, I'd like to fuck around in the
exit, right?
Well, and I'm like, if I go and hop online and exit right now, I'm going to
get shit stomped.
Well, I mean, it, it is, but it's still, if you're, if you like the game and
you like the character, uh, and you, you know, you've gone into training mode
and like, you know, felt out a couple of combos and, you know, kind of just
practiced them a little bit.
See how you feel about that stuff.
Um, like it's still the place to go.
You know what I mean?
Like, yeah, that might happen, but it might not happen.
Right.
I suppose more and I don't want to immediately be like, Hey, come out to
locals, like that's not, that doesn't have to be the qualifier, you know,
but it's like, yeah, the answer is like, just play it.
So lab your character, right?
Whatever you lost to, like try to go back to the training mode, pick the
person who beat you and do the thing they did and then see where the answer is.
So this is the part where it kind of breaks down and it's, it's a larger
question than fighting games because I feel like I've seen the sentiment
often with pretty much every shooter that comes out and it is when I was younger,
I would just play a game a couple of nights a week and never did lab time
or anything like that.
I would just play it enough and it was just this natural fun thing and whatnot.
And now it's like, I don't, I'm trapped in a scrub.
I am in a scrub trap, which is like, I just want to play matches.
But the longer game comes out, the less bads there are for me to play matches against.
OK, so two things, two things can help you.
The scrub vortex.
Thank you, Eric Khan.
Two things can, two things can, can be good here in a, in a way that is like,
it's not necessarily about like long term solidity and improvement or whatever.
It's just like, you just want to play this game that you like and have fun with it.
Pretty much.
So here's what you should do.
If you, if you don't want to have to do, if you're trying to avoid a time sink,
if you don't want me to say something such as like, go spend the time.
It's, it's a, that one has its own little caveat, which is like, I could spend some time,
but unless I spend a certain amount of time, there's only so much that you improve.
OK, so here's the other fastest thing you can do.
One, you can go to player match instead of ranked match, right?
See, I always felt that that is like a good way to just get fucked by killers extra hard.
Not necessarily at all.
In fact, I, in my experience, when you go to player match,
it's people that are having the same problem you just described that kind of are like, OK,
people on ranked are trying to get their name up higher on the list.
Player matches, people like actually just trying to have fun or use a character
they're not familiar with, right?
So if you're trying to just get hours in to feel or time in on a character
or just have or just kind of play more casually, that's where you'd go to player match, right?
It's actually what you're looking for, right?
People are going to be way more full concentrated
on the ranked mode.
The concentration of top players is going to be higher on the ranked system
that proves how good you are with a number than they are on this
in the mode that doesn't show anything, right?
And then the second thing I would recommend, and again, this is just for like time savers,
right, is go go play one of those matches, right?
And then whatever it was, again, just play the one set, play the two out of three, you know,
immediately, right, jump on YouTube
and type in the names of those characters fighting each other
and find the match upload of some really good versions of those players fighting
and just look at what that person is doing.
So I've been come so out of practice with fighting games that I feel silly
because you're telling me things that I already knew.
Yeah. And forgot. Who do you like in Guilty Gear?
Potemkin. OK, go online and look up.
What does what do Potemkin players do?
I don't mean go look up literally.
Keep on rock dot I.
And. Is a website seriously?
Yes, that's fucking hilarious.
It's beautiful, right?
And that is a site that is an archive of tournament footage of Guilty Gear.
Yeah, where you pick the two characters you want to see fighting each other
and then it'll show you a list. You know, it's silly.
I used to do this this whole process
a lot for Virtua Fighter.
But I never mentally applied it to everything else
because for whatever reason, when I played Virtua Fighter,
I don't know if it's because of the way the systems work.
It felt really natural and intuitive
because I would watch I would watch Wolf matches
because of fucking course I would watch Wolf matches.
Yeah. And I would notice like.
You know what Top Rock Wolf players really like?
That fucking knee that hit forward and kick you a lot.
That things the shit. Yeah.
And I went. OK, maybe I'll use a little bit more.
So the website I'm describing is just an easier way
of like clicking these characters together.
But you can just YouTube this, right?
You can just go into YouTube and type Potemkin versus whoever you are fighting.
And and see like what the like whether like if you want a good example,
you can go like type in the word grand finals.
Yeah. Right. Or type in the word top eight.
Yeah, I've done this. Right.
And then you'll find some probably high quality matches of that character.
In Potemkin's case, FAB is one of the best players
that you probably find popping up a lot.
But keep on rocking and or YouTube.
And then you just look at that video of the character doing the thing
and then just copy it.
And here's question two, which I hope will lead into your week.
You've played that new guilty gear.
Yeah, it looks pretty OK.
If I wanted to play a game
to loosen up my joints, as it were, for the new guilty gear,
is the obvious dumbass answer to just go play Exurg?
Or is there anything else that is a path there?
Because I was watching Max's video on it
and he says that Strive feels like SF5 and guilty gear.
Exurg had a baby.
That's his. That's his analogy, which I thought was fascinating.
I threw an analogy out in my technical discussion video
that I released earlier this morning,
where I said that this is like the jump from alpha three to new generation.
New generation is bad.
Yeah. Yeah.
It wasn't right.
I don't like but the but the reason why the I thought the analogy worked
was because alpha three was crazy wacky.
It's drowning.
A super, super
a wild air combo game at first.
Right. And then you get to another game where it's like
this is as gorgeous as it's ever been. Yeah.
And it introduces the idea of the parry. Right.
And this is like something that's going to need some touch ups.
But the idea is here.
And this is the early demo build, right?
And I'm hoping that the next time we see it before release,
it'll be at that second impact state.
Yeah, there's a lot of a while.
I watched all the footage you put up.
And when they are talking about this is early,
like that UI is fucking terrible right now.
It's bad. It's early.
So it really feels like that UI is built to address
a bullet list of things they want to communicate to the player
and not at all flavored with heavy metal or guilty gear.
Yeah.
So that's why I feel that that's super temporary,
which they said, you know what, the whole thing can change.
They did say this, right?
And but yeah, but that analogy is it's mainly based on the idea
that it's like in this demo build, I think it's like the ideas
they're trying to communicate are there and they're going to need
some fine tuning and hopefully by release, we get to that third strike.
So now obviously there is an hour and a half of you and Reggie
gabbing about the new guilty gear over on in a overrun
only versus in a very technical manner.
We use a lot of jargon and it's for people that are familiar with guilty gear.
So let's fucking cut that down a bit.
Yeah. Hey, is this game good?
I like it. Yeah. Yeah.
I had a lot of fun.
You just it's this is better if you ask me questions almost.
All right, because I did say I'm like, that's the really technical discussion
that goes into things that a lot of people, including myself and Reggie,
were worried about. Oh, hey, Max. Oh, cool.
And say fighting games and Max appears.
Yeah. So a lot of a lot of a lot of what I talked about in that video
is going into the nitty gritty of why I kind of feel
they made certain decisions, right?
And something interesting that that kind of came up was that
we kind of I had I was at Ark Revo this weekend, right?
So went out there really good time.
Was that at LA? That was in LA.
And, you know, had really
it was a really cool event, you know, to a tournament World Finals
for a lot of anime games.
Shoutouts to Zot Buster, you know, very cool with that.
And Grand Blue versus was there.
I got some timing on that and participated in that stream.
Mm hmm.
And yes, I also got to sit down, talk with Daisuke and I got the first time
I've ever seen what it looks like and what I expected.
Oh, you step along here.
See, that's what I expected.
Used to look way more rock star.
Yeah, he's kind of, you know, yeah. All right.
But yeah, a very nice man.
And we talked about a lot of things and I got an interview,
which is also going to go up on Willie versus in short order.
But the the gist of it was just trying to figure out his design
design philosophies and like why he was making the changes to Guilty Gear that he was.
And then going back to the the the game and then kind of like
trust and trying a lot of that stuff out.
So the thing that happened was over the course of the weekend,
we got a feel for it on day one and then day two,
we started recording some footage and that's the footage you saw.
Yeah, I noticed because I'm watching the footage.
I'm like, there's no fucking way this is you sitting down for the game
for the first time.
There's no like stuff is happening in that footage.
Stuff is happening in that footage,
but that stuff to me is still like nowhere.
It's still super all totally dumb and
mistaken and full of like garbage, like reads and dropped combos.
Right. But it's still like there's no there's no way.
This is this is this is ours.
And then the state that we walked out of that room in is because way after that,
like after we recorded, we sat down and it sat me, Reggie and Octo
just sat down and started like labbing, right?
And as we labbed, we found some crazy shit that no one had found
or reported on up to that point.
Right. And by this time, everyone had left. Yeah. Right.
The room literally cleared out.
Anyone who was recording or taking.
We got our notes, get out of here.
Everyone who did anything up to that point was gone and it was just us, right?
And then literally to the point where when they announced the name of the game
and and Faust on stream, like we heard the crowd screaming, right?
And we watched this and we were watching the stream.
There's a stream's TV in the room.
But like and like that was cool.
But we were just in there because we discovered some amazing crazy shit that was
like we talk about it more in the video, but like the dust button
and how that is going to be so.
It's very different.
Even I saw that. Yeah.
And it's going to be it's going to be the key that this whole game is built around.
So right, I'm going to ask you a couple of general questions.
Yeah, just let's I want to keep this super
some of which I kind of already know the answers to, but I want to get them out there.
Yeah. Guilty Gear is a fucking particularly
excerpt, I feel is anime is shit in terms of fighting.
There's a lot of buttons.
There's a lot of fucking nonsense flying around.
It's beautiful.
I'm just talking about like visual.
It's like a it's like a one fighter Marvel.
OK, on a visual level.
Yeah, it's like there's a lot of fucking shit.
There's a million fucking mechanics.
Yes.
It is is it accurate to say that this is anime toned down
a couple notches to be more grounded, more O.G.
It definitely you can compare it to O.G.
Games because combos are much shorter and damage is high.
So that the first thing you think of with that is like Street Fighter two.
Yeah, right.
It does also take away the Gatling system that was in the previous games,
which is like you're you're the ability to the dialogue combo,
the ability to go from your lightest attacks all the way down the list
to your heaviest attacks and then into your specials and supers, right?
Like in this case, you're kind of going more for one or two buttons
into themselves and then into like a special move.
We got a quote from Mr. Maximilian,
dude says SF five times guilty gear might be a bad impression for some.
And I could understand that, but also might be a very good impression
for others and that he'd say that it felt most like XX.
Which do you agree with that?
Well, so I I think I would say that the older games
still feel like crazy lightning fast and like have these moments of like
almost like like knockdowns are so quick.
You're back into the thick of things really quickly.
This game still has a putting you back to neutral thing
that the others didn't do that the fact that you returned to neutral,
which is again, it just means that you're going to be standing up
and facing each other and able to play more than you could in the past.
So who likes footsies in their anime games?
So to put this in a really basic way, if you back in the days
when you when you threw somebody out of the air, you did an air grab,
you would throw them and then like you'd land and then try to do something
or they'd flip out of it or something like that would happen.
But here they you throw them and then they just kind of almost land on their feet.
They take damage, but they almost land on their feet.
Yeah, it's automatic now.
Right. And then you just kind of yeah, you need to just kind of go back to fighting, right?
Damage does seem fucking stupid high.
So the cross the baby with Street Fighter,
the reason why that works in his analogy is because of the fact
that counter hits are the most important thing now. Boy.
So I'm watching the footage.
You had a counter.
There's a fucking zoom in and the giant the because it was a joke in like
persona for arena where like a tiny little counter thing would come up.
The whole screen. Yeah, it's the word counter and it zooms in and it slows down.
It's pretty it's pretty extreme.
And I'm also hoping some of those font decisions might get touched up before the final,
which I believe they will. But excuse me.
But yeah, it's a massive thing trying to tell you this is a big deal.
Yeah. Right.
And that's similar to crush counter in Street Fighter five.
Yeah, but just times 10 really.
Right. And then you get something big off of that.
That is not that's nothing, though,
because the biggest deal is counter hit with dust.
When you do a counter hit with dust,
you get the big air combos from the old games that you used to get.
But also the game returns to feeling like the old game in that moment.
Oh, really?
When you're in the air, you get your gatling back
so you can now combo all of your buttons into each other like the way you used to.
You can do a couple of buttons and then jump and then do another couple of buttons.
Right. That's the I know it's not from that,
but the game that I actually did that the first was Dragon Ball Dragon Ball.
Right. And then you end it with a heavy button
and that heavy button does a system wide universal like smack down.
And they'll do like they'll do something that looks like one of their special moves,
but it's actually just like a baked in finish. Oh, OK.
And that thing does so much damage that literally you can do
40 percent to 60 percent damage for landing this off of one good counter off of one good counter.
Right. So now it becomes about building your whole game plan around this with intention.
You know, Max was saying that, like, in addition to stuff like that,
that you're drowning in meter, you just have tons of meter all.
So this is the other big part of that big, that big video that we go into heavy detail on.
But to just cut to the chase on it, the only way to.
So so that's that's the crazy thing is like you don't want to get touched
because if Potemkin launches you, he doesn't have to spend any bar.
He can do that air combo to you and take 60 percent of your life off. Right. OK.
So does like 50 kind as 40, for example. Right.
There's something called the risk gauge, which is the amount of times you can block.
Oh, really? Right. It's a block. It's a guard meter.
Really? Yeah. I didn't even realize that. That was an old games too.
Yeah. But I mean, I don't even see the the the bar on the screen for it
because he wanted it to be like almost not noticeable.
Oh, all right. Which I disagree with this design decision.
He said he wanted he said this is an important mechanic,
but I don't want people to be staring at it all the time.
And I don't and he doesn't want new players to feel scared away
from there being too many bars on screen.
I think that's a super crazy thing.
I think that's yeah, I don't I think that's a decision that I'm like that.
But this is an important mechanic.
Right. Like don't underestimate that people will, you know,
pay attention to it and give it its importance.
But as it at the moment, it's hidden.
It's a line of color around the portrait.
That's what that is. Yes.
Dude, that's like I'm watching.
I watch the footage of your matches on the phone.
I can't see it on my phone like it's invisible.
The other thing I like, I like a lot.
Yes, Max just said it, and it is true.
The other thing that I agree with is that he said like
excerpt with half of its mechanics is still full of crazy shit.
Still twice as many mechanics as you're ever trying.
Yeah, that's a very and that's very important to point out
because even with stuff cut here, there's still a lot.
And so, yeah, so that's one thing I was like, I don't know about that one.
That's a weird one.
But he did also say that like it's not that this is not about simplification
or that the depth is gone.
It's that it's in a different place.
OK, right. It might be in different places.
So so that guard meter you're talking about the risk, quote unquote system
is the is the most also the most important thing.
OK, because like I said, you get counter hit
with the launcher button and then you take you lose half your life.
That therefore, that's what you should be afraid of the whole time.
Right.
When that guard meter goes all the way up to the maximum,
anything that touches you becomes a counter hit.
Oh, OK.
It's it's not a guard break.
It's worse.
It's it's you were giving them a touch of death by guarding too much.
And anything that combos
wasn't in that moment, does extra damage.
Oh, geez. So the 60 percent I talked about becomes seventy five.
You understand? Yeah. OK.
So that means now my goal is to get you into this launched state.
And I also want to force your block,
your risk meter to go up to the maximum.
And there and like what's the best way to do that?
Forcing you to block a lot.
I hope everybody likes block strings. OK, but here's what's up.
All right.
We what did we begin the the the Gatling system?
So block strings are not free.
No, you can't do big long block strings like that anymore.
Unless you have meter, which OK, because you could then use
some of your your super meter to basically like cancel the push out.
So as you're doing a couple of buttons, the guy gets pushed away from you.
And then as and when you push them out all the way,
you could spend the meter to do a like a cancel and like the new system.
I'm like, I'm calling it drift RC because that's what it looks like.
You literally are like not just cancelling your attack animation.
Your character is drifting forward like almost
like in the stopped time. Yeah. Right.
Like you're seeing a blue aftershadow as you hold forward or back.
And in the air, you can do up or down as well.
And it you slide in time forward and then resume your action.
So if I push you out, FADC is from SF4 on crack.
Oh, exactly. Right.
So in theory, right, Potemkin has a new punch
that builds about 30 percent of your block stun.
That's a lot. Right. Your risk meter. Sure. Yeah.
So if you were to do a combo and then do that and then they block it,
that's 30 percent.
You spend some of your bar to then drift
Roman cancelling forward and do it again.
And if you have a more bar, you do it a third time.
And the next thing that touches them is 75 percent of your life.
Yeah. All right.
It's an so all of that I'm trying to explain that is
do you follow?
Like, I don't know if I got caught stuck in the corner
and blocking everything. Yeah, you're going to die.
I don't know if that went to. No, I get it.
But I try to keep it pretty general.
But so what you're kind of doing is you're more or less kind of like
pressuring somebody as long as you have a super meter.
And then you're making them afraid of getting touched, right?
And they can then do things to get out of it.
That's, you know, but it's essentially like
do you remember when Grey Life showed up in Street Fighter?
Yeah. Right.
So you could do like of like when you did like a focus attack
in Street Fighter Four, it would take some life that wasn't real damage.
Yeah. But if you got hit again, then it would become real damage.
But if you waited long enough, it would heal back, right?
That's kind of like this.
It's interesting because killer instinct.
It's like, you know, too aggressive, too loose, get counter hit to death.
Too defensive, get fucking blown up.
Yeah. On one mix up, essentially.
So all of the crazy stuff that we're seeing where we saw Soul do a grab
that did like a crazy amount.
Yeah. What's up with that?
His wild throat is like 50 percent.
It's nonsense. It's so crazy, right?
I saw Potemkin do 70 percent to chip off one Potemkin buster.
Chip chip chip melts to everything.
But Chip dies very quickly because he has lower health than other characters.
I thought it was because he had lower guts.
Well, that's yeah, but I'm trying to.
Yeah, I know, I know. You know what I mean?
Speaking shit. Yeah.
He does. He has lower guts, exactly.
But but effectively, don't worry about that.
Let's just keep it surface.
He's he's got lower life, right?
And yeah, so there's these moments of like, oh, my God, what happened to the life bar?
But none of those compared to this this thing I'm talking about.
Yeah, right.
So and what this thing is, this thing does so much damage
that, again, it becomes your game plan.
And that reminds me of Samurai Showdown,
where Samurai Showdown has the the East end.
It's the lightning blade, right?
Where it's that attack you see in Samurai Showdown,
if you've ever watched footage where someone suddenly flies across the screen
and then and then does one like like Ninja Gaiden style,
like I put my sword away and then you just go boom.
And then your life bar just goes to like 10 percent or dies.
It almost takes your whole life.
It's one of those style things, right?
There's a there's a way for you to dive insanely quickly
if you fuck up badly, you know?
So this is where the game is going.
And we discovered this and scratch the surface of it at the end of the night
on the second day. That's a bummer.
And when we found it, like we were freaking out
and trying to find new ways to do things and trying to like experiment with it.
And we at one point we turned around and saw
like the arxist guy just standing there with his hands crossed, smiling.
Yeah, just like they found it.
Yeah, you know, because they're like,
they were not telling people about a lot of that stuff.
Even the drift thing I'm talking about,
the drift RC drift Roman Cancel was not explained to people.
It's just like there's secrets about Roman Cancel, figure them out, you know?
So, yeah.
Anyway, like that discovery cracked a lot of this puzzle
open to me and to Reggie and to Octo.
And we just kind of walked out of there trying to go like,
what does this mean for the game, for the rest of the characters, for the cast?
Like, what's the plan?
And it's just like it makes the whole thing like
your goal is to punch the other guy and make his life go down.
As is always the case.
But you have a secondary goal that's going to be always present in your game
plan, yeah, and it's going to be trying to get that launcher on them, right?
And the way the game makes you feel like you're doing the cool thing
is by when you successfully land that or when you knock them through the wall,
which is another which is really cool looking.
It moves you from one stage to a second stage.
So every stage is actually like three different areas
and you can knock them from one to the other.
And like, it's like, yo, you fucking you beat their ass to the second area.
Like you're doing the right thing.
Injustice did it. Dragonball did it.
But the way Injustice did it was just a thing you would do near the corner.
Right. In this case, I mean, in this case, it's a thing you do
in the corner or you can launch them there.
But the point is that like, you know, you got to beat their ass into the other stage.
Yeah, the corner is a very in depth discussion that I also like,
we go into that video and we break it down.
So, you know, I don't want to like spend too much time here on it.
But the the short version of it is that like something in fighting games used to be
that like you always would if you get stuck in the corner, you can't get out.
Like if someone's really good at just like being like, fuck you, you can't jump over me.
Right. Yeah, there are situations.
It's like, I'm the corner guess, I'll just die.
Now, here's the thing, right?
If you're a really good player and you're fighting another really good player,
that's awesome because it means you have to you lost the battle for space.
And then you're now got your back.
You got your back against the wall, literally.
And I should be able to capitalize on that, right?
But if you're a beginner fighting someone who is really, really good,
you're just like, I'm just I guess I'll die.
Right. So the the compromise that I try to go for here was
if you beat someone up in the corner long enough, right?
You will have a moment where you can choose to finish that combo
and punch them out of the corner and they'll get back to the new stage in the middle.
So they're not cornered anymore.
But you get a dammit, you got damage out of punching them to the next stage.
Also, you got a visual reward and you got a visual reward
and you get more super meter, right?
Which as we established earlier, makes it way easier to kill the person.
Right. Right.
But you don't have to do that.
If you don't want to punch them through the stage,
you can actually just let them fall down from the wall
and then keep them in a corner, keep them pressured by doing something
as soon as they're able to play, which means they have a chance to get out.
Yes. Ah, so you choose that's pretty good.
I like that you choose between maintaining your your place in the corner
or allowing them to get out.
But you get a big buff on American combo or Canadian.
Yeah. Yeah.
Again, I don't want to go too much.
I know, I just love that term so much.
Yeah, Canadian resets is the oh man, look at that one.
So, yeah, on a visual level, there is nothing out there.
Probably the best looking game.
Like, I think Death Stranding is probably the best looking,
like photo realistic style game.
But in general, I would say that this game looks the best of anything I can think of.
Yeah, I'm going to I'm going to like like fucking spoil
my own my own whatever my own lead your own content on on the interview, right?
But when talking about like what's up with the visuals, you know,
right, Daisuke was like, hey, but in short, he just kind of went like,
yeah, you know, excerpt came out and crushed it.
Yeah. Yeah.
And it's like, well, Dragon Ball came out after that and crushed it even harder.
Yeah. And then Grand Bleu is continuing to do that.
Grand Bleu is in between.
And it's really cool.
And both of those games are like the natural evolution of the excerpt look,
which is like, yeah, we got that art style down, right?
We've picked an anime art style and we wanted it to look 2D and we fucking nailed it, right?
Where else do we go from here?
And he's like, well, guilty your strive.
We started saying, let's look at movies and let's go for the feeling that films give you.
And so that's what they wanted to put into it.
And so that's why you see those character
intros where they're doing the stare down, you're seeing the aspect ratio cut,
you know, like they're going for cinematic feelings, which is a bad word.
When we talk about like, no, but I get it.
It's it's the move from.
Something like Epo in terms of or like like an anime,
like a proper anime fighter to like Red Line.
Yeah, yeah, we're exactly you just you love you take it to the next level
because there's just so much more that your team is capable of now, right?
They figured out how to do this better than anyone in the industry.
So we're going to blow you away.
It's kind of not visual because like usually when there's a new type of
graphical style or whatever, somebody comes out and crushes it.
And there's like a couple of imitators.
You're like, oh, that's a cool, you know, take on like, you know,
when cel shading came out, right?
Yes, that's a cool take on cel shading, Nintendo.
And then Zone of the Enders did kind of like half cel shading.
Arxis is doing all of them by themselves.
They're the ones who put out another game and another game and another game.
There was a variation of this style, different variations like
Grand Blue has a really specific look that I think looks fucking gorgeous.
And it's not like the look that Dragon Ball has.
Arxis is basically out here becoming the new foundation for fighting games.
They're taking the mantle.
If they could get that rollback net code into their game.
It is a it is a ghost belt.
That automatically appears on their on their waist.
The moment they confirm GGPO.
It's not going to have GGPO is it?
It's it's all possible.
OK, that's a weird statement, because I remember Capcom granted.
Capcom is not Arxis, which is weird.
This is weird.
It's weird talking about this like Capcom isn't the winner by the way.
Or they were like, we're thinking about it.
And then they did it.
But then they did it badly.
Yeah, and we're thinking about it.
We're thinking about it.
And then they did it.
And I was like, this isn't now.
This isn't what we want to.
It's rollback, but it's badly implemented.
Rollback. So this is why we get these weird jump arounds.
Yeah, jump arounds, jump, jump, jump up and get down.
Arxis to add like so again, I ask him in the interview, of course, you know,
and the the it's this it's the answer that like, hey, it's the one
they gave before before, they're like, we're talking about it internally.
Right. Yeah.
But it's more than that, because he's like, actually,
it's not just that we're talking about it internally.
Like the programmers are looking into it.
We're having the discussions, but this is not just for this game.
We're having a Arxis wide look at the implementation of this
into everything, into multiple projects.
Right. So it's a bigger talk.
So it takes longer because it is an infrastructure reset.
But nothing further till the results of those conversations.
So this is the one thing that is I'm in this weird place where it's like, man,
I really want a fighting game that I can sink into like I used to back in the old days.
I miss it. I really do.
When I look at, well, the cannons and Killian,
they're making that League of Legends thing.
And Guilty Gear is making Guilty Gear, which are Arxis.
And it's like, boy, I would much rather it to be Guilty Gear
to be the pinnacle of all fighting lines.
Yeah. Yeah.
But you know that Cannon Brothers fighting game,
well, it better have the best online in any fighting game of all time.
If they invented the fucking concept, it is all it is not even a question.
It is a matter of time.
So it's like, I really don't want to have a situation where there's the game
that I really love that has worse online than the game that I don't that I like.
But that isn't as good in my mind or whatever.
You know, that has the flawless local feeling shit forever.
You know what the game with good online is right now?
What's that? Mortal Kombat.
Are you fucking for real?
That's are you serious? That's serious.
I'm not being sarcastic.
I'm like, I'm genuinely fucking shot. What are you talking about?
That's serious.
It's the one that right now that people are like, yeah, they got it.
What is it using?
I'm pretty sure it's it's using a throwback and it's doing a lot of more
combat's using robot and it's using and it's doing a lot of
things to help you out, like literally, like giving you the
option to see a Wi-Fi player and immediately just not match with.
Oh, yeah, man, get out of here.
Like right now, they're actually the ones that are people are like, yeah,
they get it, right?
And so it's just like, here we go, continuing the trend.
A Western fighting game is gets it.
So here's the thing, right?
That I'm thinking is G.G.P.O.
Maybe this is is the wrong sentiment.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I've talked to other people and they feel this way.
So it's it's a common wrong.
I feel like G.G.P.O. has existed.
It's like this fringe, like it reminds me of that dude at the conference.
It goes, when's Linux support?
Right? It's like, yeah, no, that's a really cool implementation.
And it's incredibly useful, but it just it just doesn't get used all that often.
Skullgirls has it, I believe.
And, you know, Third Strike Online Edition had it and what have you.
And it's great when it's great.
Yeah. And it's just, but none of the big boys use it.
Yep. And Mortal Kombat, because it requires you to build your game
in such a way that you have it planned for from day one.
But one of the reasons I always assumed is that it's since it's so much extra work
to make it good, essentially, since none of the other big boys are using it.
It's not quite as important that we use it because we'll still be better than those guys.
But now Mortal Kombat's a big boy, more combats of real ass fighting.
I really don't like I want to be really clear.
I really don't like the new Mortal Kombat.
I don't like it at all.
But it's a big fucking deal and shit ton of people play it.
So the fact that it has aces netcode, you're telling me,
is a big deal to Capcom, to ArcSys, to everybody else.
Yeah, it should be anyway.
So we're now in, I mean, I've said this a bunch of times to people.
So I'm just looting the face with it.
It's a dead horse a little bit.
But like there we're now in an era of like games with quality of life
improvements to all the little things have been out for a while, right?
When Skullgirls come out. Oh, God.
You know what I mean?
When the K.I. come out, it's it's just the longer we go
with new, big, expensive, shiny productions
that ignore some of these basic little things that we've already figured out.
The more embarrassing it gets, right?
Because suddenly the whole tap button to tap your your stick buttons
to input your button config thing goes from being like a mild frustration
to a what the fuck are they doing?
I haven't done this in years.
Yeah, you know, when you're you're scrolling to
especially with the way people migrate from fighting in a fighting game,
you go from the fighting game that had it to the fighting game that doesn't.
You're like, why?
And it just bothers you every time, you know,
not having a rematch option in the first persona there and things like
like that was the worst one ever.
There's just these insane little things, you know,
that defied fucking belief.
Like if you know, no matter what you feel about Neo, right?
If you play Neo for a while and then go back to other souls,
likes you're going to feel a lack of quality of life.
Yeah, because nothing has polished it up as much as Neo has, you know.
And I don't think Neo is nearly as good as Dark Souls,
but it has all those things.
So I go, hmm.
And as we go further in time, the like the net like these things
like improve upon themselves and get better and better.
And your thing is still old and busted.
And like the rest of the game is glorious.
But holy fuck, guys, right?
Anyway, we're getting lost in the weeds a little bit.
But like the thing that we're talking about, which is like online
has become a de facto way of life to the average fighting game person.
Yeah. So it should be a priority.
Yeah. So, you know, there'd be a lot more strong ass players
if online was almost even as almost as good as local.
Well, like other genres.
Yeah. Where you can just hit the internet button and have a good match.
Not even think about it, you know.
Anyway, but ultimately, yeah, I mean.
So it's bad.
New Guilty Gear is going to suck.
Any other questions?
Because like, um, right now, like, I think the only other thing I really want
to say is to touch it is Faust.
I like his redesign a lot.
Faust looks like a zombie man now.
Look, he's wearing scrubs.
He's wearing scrubs.
He's like a doctor.
And it's like, OK, that's fine.
He's a horror character.
He's also evil looking.
Oh, that intro looked really, which he hasn't been in a while.
Dr. Bald Head is fucked up.
Yeah. But it's like, are we going back to Faust being evil?
I think that's OK.
It might be. It might be.
If we can also touch on for a minute.
I believe it's Naoki Hashimoto.
On the vocals of these tracks, bullshit blazing,
smell of the game, right?
The feeling and hearing of hearing the crowd singing along to it was super cool.
So love that moment.
Love that kind of stuff.
And then hearing the other songs as well.
Like, I thought that was the smell of the game was going to be it.
But I found myself singing society over and over just society.
Society. It's so good.
So, you know, I think I know why I had such an incredibly negative
reaction to smell of the game.
It's metal.
It's late 90s metal.
It's grungy.
They're good songs.
But they are done in the same kind of metal style that St.
Anger was, OK, OK, totally sounds like James Hetfield on the St.
Anger album.
And my fucking St.
Anger based musical PTSD kicks the fuck in every time I hear smell of the game.
And like, well, fuck.
Well, he's he's he's a musician going back to like the 80s.
Yeah.
And did you know what his band's name was?
Of course, I don't tell me.
Outrage. Oh, my God.
Is this a fucking guilty gear band?
Other way around.
Oh, man.
That's sick.
Confirmed from the man himself.
So fun stuff.
Fucking Jojo ask with this music shit.
Gets your lure.
If you're in the if you're in the if you're into the guilty gear law, man,
I got to read up.
I've missed a couple.
Yo, you need to go check out the backyard.
Oh, shut up about the backyard.
Anyway, so, yeah, you know, that's a man like, like, you know,
things are polished to a mirror machine audio visually.
Gameplay has some things that are philosophically super interesting
and an execution like I'm like, OK, I'm I'm I'm seeing the idea here.
Right. And and then there's just the part where you're like,
you know, you just touch it and you're like, I'm having fun.
I'm having fun. Yeah.
But the stuff that, like, definitely some people are looking for
that are just like, you know, but excerpt brought in, like,
set like a ton of ways to express yourself creatively
using the the massive amount of tools, character unique systems
and movement options.
Like it's just like porn for someone who likes to get technical
and like 100 percent those
like like those concerns are warranted.
Yeah. You know, and people that are like in love with those aspects
are definitely going to be like not.
Certainly on board.
They're not for sure going to be on board with the new version of them, right?
Because and the thing is, is that they but there's a chance they might
because the new version has put the depth, like he said,
like it's put it in other places.
It's not removed.
It's just it's it's relocated and other aspects to it
because they wanted to make you play the game more often.
Right.
The the analogy I use in the video at one point is like,
I feel like Daisuke was watching a match of Dragon Ball fighters.
Yeah, he saw adult Gohan put someone in the corner
and he saw Goichi just do the the fucking lightning leg kicks for like a year.
And he went, oh, my God, no, no, no, no, no, this, none of that.
And then just designed a philosophy around not being that.
Right. So now it's like every time someone is forced to block,
they're blocking for much shorter periods of time.
But the thing that you get from that short period of time
is like the reward for making them block is good.
Yeah. You know, so it's like we don't need to stare at you
for 10 seconds or 20 seconds before you get some sort of reward.
I can get it really quickly, right?
But.
It is true that just like pressing buttons is a fun thing to do, you know.
So it's going to be it's going to be touch and go.
But I guarantee for a lot of you guys, the majority of the people listening to this,
once you touch it, you're just going to be like, you're going to have fun with it.
And you're going to like be blown away by just like the the
how fun it can feel to in addition to this visually being so gorgeous
to do these drift movements so constantly.
And like, yeah, you like you're having a Jotaro versus Dio
stand battle where you're just like, well, this is like moving in and out.
Maximum. We've you're we've been out so bad.
But like but stop like the world, the world and Star Platinum, the world,
just kind of having these moments of like, I stopped you.
I'm moving in and then you're like, you have an exchange and then they're like,
and now I'm moving out.
So, you know, let me ask you a question now that you've one of the one of the
characters that got shown off that we haven't seen in like in game really
was the Black Robo Samurai.
Yes, Samurai Man.
Does he have a name even?
Nope, not yet.
And someone acts almost accidentally said it, but didn't.
So I would like not now that now that you hung out with
Daisuke and you hung out a little bit.
And he's seen you and met you and shit.
Yeah, that tweet, by the way, would you would you fucking wager a coin flip
on whether or not the green color palette for that character is going to have
like blonde dreads or some shit?
Because like, hmm, I think it's what's money exchange.
I think it's possible, but not for the reasons you think.
Yeah, I think it's possible because guilty gear has always had more colors
than you need way more.
Do you do you want twenty five color options, plus two or three bonus
crazy wacky ones before you hit the DLC?
There you go.
Yeah, you're going to have all possible combinations of colors.
So don't even worry about that.
That's coming.
Um, and I'm kind of like, I can't believe we still haven't seen more of him yet.
It's a bit wacky.
It's weird.
We saw his face and then we got five character reveals and they were all
returning characters and then we didn't find out more.
How, uh, how big do you think the roster is going to be like 16 is the number?
I'm not expecting I would be shocked if it was higher than 16.
I would be shocked if it was, uh, higher than 14.
I kind of thinking 12 to 16.
Yeah, exactly.
And I'm going to feel like two newbies and all returning otherwise.
Like, can we get Testament in there?
That's my ask because that's my ask.
Like, I don't like Testament.
I'm bad with him.
The trap character stuff is really cool.
And he's he's been gone for a while.
And his like style and animation and everything about him is guilty gear as fuck.
Can we get like a goth goth man in there?
Can we get can we get ABBA back?
Yep.
As the weirdo Zappa, Colin and Rao.
Zappa in 3D money, dude, big God, Rao.
So breathing in 3D.
I'm going to I'm going to stop for a second.
Willie and I have had a discussion about characters in the new guilty gear.
I think 10 times now in this podcast and every time you say Zappa, I go,
Zappa is so expensive, Zappa, so money.
If you don't know who we're talking about, go look up the character of Zappa
in guilty gear, XX, it's money.
He deformation.
He's a character that has the ability to summon three or four different kinds
of stance, and he also contorts his body in way in 2D.
He stretches his body of his body in impossible ways.
But then again, they made Bedman.
They didn't make Bedman.
So anything's possible.
Was Bedman the test for Zappa?
Bedman was the person who Daisuke said was like one of the craziest
challenging designs that they had.
I bet, man.
So God, what was I going to say to?
Oh, yeah, I was going to say that like I also I brought up
Testament as well as an example of a character that also comes from
an era where guilty gear was like more brutal and gruesome, all right?
Some of the crazier animations he had or like some of the like skull and bone
stages, like, you know, some of these like album cover things he was going for.
And the idea that it looks a lot less like that nowadays is not due to him
necessarily having changing tastes, but more so about him having a team
of other people that he's working with that are not him.
So that is going to be what it's going to be.
But yeah, some real some real fun stuff all the way all the way through on that.
And I guess this game's far away, right?
Yeah, this is late 2020.
OK, this is late 2020.
That's bomber. Take your time, I suppose.
And now now that the so the title is announced, and I guess I'll
a crack one little thing that I heard that was super funny and interesting
that I thought was rad, which was the idea that like so guilty of strife.
Very cool name. Yeah, I like it, right?
And it even has the strife for in it.
Oh, look at that.
But it's a lot more natural than most to do.
The fourth, I'll just do it through, right?
Strife, strife, right?
Signed strife. Yeah.
It's better than fucking eggs or holy shit.
So apparently, apparently one of the working titles before.
Well, thank God, we don't have to say Gigi 2020 anymore.
Oh, yeah, right. That was exhausting.
We just say strife now before we got to this title.
There's a couple of titles that were being bounced around.
And one of the working ones that didn't go through was guilty gear.
The guilty gear.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God, that's so awful.
That's the worst title I've ever heard.
The best thing in the world. Oh, my God.
And the and the and the pun, not the pun,
but the idea is like the band that has the album named.
Yeah. For themselves.
Right. It's that's the that's what that's what you're going for.
That's so terrible.
I would have loved it so much.
That would have been Gigi TGG.
Yeah. Or just Gigi Gigi.
Right now we have Gigi S, which is Gigi's good games.
Yeah. Right. Good games.
But G4 early, but guilty gear, the guilty gear.
And if it happened, this is like the self titled, right?
And if it happened to be
somewhere in the story that like it was also like like souls,
the main character again, guess what?
Ha ha. Well, I don't know if you saw, but there was another interview he did.
And the implication was that there's a possibility
this might be the conclusion of soul story. Really?
Not the conclusion of soul, never, never.
But this might be the conclusion of soul story. Interesting.
It won't be. But it might be. But cool.
And who is soul?
He's the bad guy.
The guilty gear. Yeah, he's the guilty gear.
He's also Freddie Mercury.
Yeah, he's Freddie.
So if you call the game, guilty gear, the guilty gear,
I'm fucking all about that life.
But anyway, that that that was a fun little tidbit.
But yeah, Strive it is.
Strive is good. Strive is good.
Strive is good.
Anyway, so there will be more.
So right now you can go check out some
a few hours in mediocre gameplay of Guilty Gear Strive on my channel
I would say it's actually considerably better than some of the offscreen stuff
I was looking at prior and the quality of the footage
is way higher than all that shit.
Yeah, that that's nice that I was able to get that that feed.
The second I put out a video this morning,
like I said, it's about an it's about an hour and a half.
And it's a very technical discussion about me and Reggie going in on
the things I talked about just now, the big dork nerd shit.
Yep. And then what we discovered and what we think
the philosophy behind a lot of this is and as well as addressing a lot of little
a lot of concerns that like again, we had that others had as well
about like the nature of things that are like that looks like a bad idea.
For example, you can block in the air now if someone does like a DP
like if someone does like a shoryukin like a dragon punch or like an anti air move,
you can block it. That's odd.
That seems like a bad idea.
But there's more to it than that.
Where it's like, oh, actually, wait, hold on.
It might actually be better thought out than I thought.
You know, so there's little things like that.
So check that all out over on Woolly versus.
And then, of course, the interview almost done.
Just need to do some finishing edits to touch that up.
But like for the most part, that's going to be ready to go as quickly as possible as well.
You know, again, this is one of those things where like you get off the plane
and you have a hole burning in your pocket, which is like exclusive footage
and information that like people need to know.
And I'm I that's why I didn't sleep because I just was trying to fucking
get this stuff to you guys as quickly as possible.
So please look forward.
I was about to say something really stupid.
But the the genesis of that thought is interesting
because I was about to say what was it like meeting the man saving fighting games?
A question that we I have been using the term
saving fighting games for like 12 years.
That's a hilarious thing that you're about to say,
because I was actually about to go in the same direction.
I've heard it since 10 years since 2007.
So I think it's a foregone a two things about that.
One of all the fighting game rock stars to meet.
Yeah, that's the one.
He's the rock star. That's the one.
Yeah, not just because of what he's done.
But in terms of his games, but also because there's no other person
that you can say is like the artist, the voice actor, the musician,
the writer, the game planner, the battle planner,
the fucking omnie everything guy.
So one of the bigger things that has touched all aspects of his game.
One of the things in game development is you don't really have a lot of
off tours and the two often team efforts are designated to a single individual.
Like people often say that Kojima gets too much credit,
despite the fact that he's on a big team.
The point is that Kojima does involve himself and oversee almost every part of the game.
Daisuke, am I saying it right Isha Watari?
Yeah, literally fucking.
Like it's it's as close as you could get to like
springing forth from the mind of Zeus like it is.
These are his games.
It is it is it is similar to pixel making cave story,
except an incredibly talented team of ridiculous individuals
making the art and music and such alongside him are there.
But he has touched all aspects of creative creativity.
Yeah. Right.
So you're like, yeah, this guy has the capability to like oversee
and like big brain the situation.
Yeah. Right. Now, as to your other thing about saving fighting games,
did you see my tweet? I didn't. OK.
I mean, it was a tweet for you.
Probably it's a bit buried now at this point.
Oh, yeah. It was from that weekend where it was just a shot of us sitting at the
table talking and I said something to the effect of Daisuke Isha Watari
is really out here trying to save fighting games, you know, to which it's like,
yeah, that's a there it is.
Yeah. Now, the operative word is trying.
The operative word is trying.
Right. Mm hmm.
Like you have to understand that like everything I'm saying is not without
its asterisk, not without its grains of salt, not without its caveats,
especially since as many people pointed out, I'm not a top player.
I am a scrub that gets very excited
a lot of the time.
And I do not have the top players of view from the mountaintop.
Yeah, I am somewhere on the mountain, not at the bottom,
but I'm somewhere on the mountain.
And you love that mountain, but I can't see as far as the person
on top of the mountain can see.
So like absolutely everything I say is totally subject to being called
the fuck out by people with a better understanding and or
just more knowledge.
Well, let me ask you a question.
Octopimp fucking whipped your ass, right?
Octopimp's a fucking beast.
He's good. All right.
Does he like it?
Yeah, he was having some fun.
OK, good. There you go. Done.
Good game.
You know, yeah, you go up the chain, find somebody who kicks
Octopimp's ass and be like, do you like it?
Let's see if that continues.
Yeah, there's, you know, and like some people that touched it are reporting
that they like that, you know, they said, like, yeah,
I like the feeling of that.
Other people are, you know, really still concerned about like the damage
and really still concerned about the, you know, the lack of teching
and about the lack of gattling and about the aspects that are more
homogenized across the board and things like that.
So there's there's there's super valid concerns, you know,
and there's and it's not to say like, no, I ignore all that like this.
So one of the things Max said, I think Max still here,
but one of the things he did point out earlier was that Guilty Gear
is going to, by default, with this kind of stuff, sacrifice some of its
core audience to try and get a much bigger audience, which is a gamble.
Yes.
But it does happen every single time a new fighting game comes out.
Yeah.
That is not a follow up to the current franchise.
So when Excerd Sign was announced, there definitely was a lot of people
that I saw that were very upset with that because the people that love
plus are didn't like the direction that that was going.
But at the same time, it's like you guys got enough XX remixes.
There's a lot of them.
There were a lot of those.
But but but the idea of of like the next
yet, but the idea of the next step being like this is the cool,
like cash money upgrade to the franchise that I love,
but it's going away from what I loved, you know, like that's the thing where
it's like it feels bad if you're like the stock that you had at the time
is being like kind of lost, right?
Yeah, like remember Melee to Brawl was was, you know,
yeah, it was what it was for a lot of like people that play that like seriously.
And, you know, and that exists in the same place as me talking
about those neogaf posts back in the day that were like
this new Street Fighter is just watered down.
The fundamentals are gone and it sucks.
And this was back in the early 1999, 2000 era
because they were talking about Third Strike.
Yeah. Right.
Someone found posts and just clipped them.
And then like it isn't until the bottom of the paragraph
that you see they're talking about Street Fighter, three Third Strike,
and you're like, whoa, yeah, it's hard to know. Right.
So there is that just there is just that part of it as well.
But I don't you don't do that to hand wave and say that, like,
you poo poo those those remarks because no, like a bunch of the shit coming up
was very, very valid, you know.
So there are people that like love plus are that hated excerpt,
even as it is now. Yeah.
That like I saw someone kind of going like I was hoping
this would be more like a return to what plus are was.
And if I hopped on Revelator, I should hit PS4, right?
Yes. No, but like not PC because there's more people on PS4.
No, there's a lot of people on PC to PC's.
PC's good too. Yeah.
You can go either way on it, but PS4 would have more.
Yeah, but PC's actually healthy.
But yeah, all that to say that exactly like there's there's that little bit,
you know, where you've put a lot of time into something and you've grown to love it.
And then this is the new the new one.
And like if it goes in the further in the direction of how it used to be,
growth potential ends up being really risky, if not nullified,
because like people just feel that this is the same thing you always do.
You're always going to get the same thing you always do, right?
You know, the numbers go down instead of up and it gets becomes numbers.
Don't lie.
But you don't want to sacrifice depth in order to get new people.
So we'll see. Yeah.
Anyway, look forward to that all coming out soon.
On Willy versus. Yes. On Willy versus.
And what else do you do, man?
Well, I played a bunch more tepid and I guess I'm sorry.
I'm in there. Oh, I guess I'm in there.
Hey, people ask me if they people were asking me a question
that I don't understand, you can answer it for me.
Or like, hey, can we see tepid on stream?
I'm like, does tepid even exist off your phone?
Pretty sure. You can you can do recordings on your phone.
No, Max does videos on it.
Well, Max is a wizard.
Yeah, you can do phone recordings.
Well, what if they see the stuff I have on my phone?
If you've got an iPhone, there's a system recording option
to just record video of your screen.
Oh. So, yeah, you can totally do that.
You can emulate phone stuff as well.
I guess there's that possibility.
Um, I don't think I'm going to do that.
Scary. But I don't want people to see stuff on my phone.
But yeah, I've gotten in there and I'm currently
I'm at what am I at? Am I at I'm at?
I think I'm at a five for right in terms of ranking.
What a you start at you start it.
I think is it F or D five?
I think you started D five and you work your way up through five, four,
three, two, one, five, four, three, two, one and so on.
OK, that's pretty good.
So if I, yeah, if I can get to a one, then I can get to the championship
league, which is like F five.
OK, so you started at five and work your way up.
So if I can go from a five to a one, then I get a shot at being in the
the big dick club. Yeah.
So we'll see.
It's a good time.
I'll tell you that, man.
I'm putting my neuro deck together and having some fun with it.
So don't don't.
Don't get it twisted.
There's some big old Capcom fucking jerk offs.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Big old jerk offs.
Hey, man, how do you how do you feel about like
random ass resident evil characters?
They're none of them are random.
Having like cards that do things that pertain to their personalities.
Give me one name.
I don't know them.
So this bit would have worked a lot better if you could tell me.
And I'd be like, wow, they got that guy in.
I mean, like I told you about Rebecca Chambers last time.
Not she's important.
OK, Dario.
That's out there.
Really, um, that bitch motherfucker dies in two seconds.
Yeah, there's OK, there's I don't I don't.
Everybody's going who in Resident Evil three,
the fat guy who runs outside and gets fucking killed.
Or no, the fat guy who doesn't want to leave the warehouse with Jill
and you come back to the warehouse later in the game, you got eaten.
That's Dario.
Oh, yeah, Lucia from DMC twos in there, for sure.
Yeah, definitely.
Hunk has a card and a bunch of a bunch of monster hunter monster.
Dario is a character I would fully expect almost no one to remember
that character's name.
That's the kind of reference that I want in there.
Carlos definitely has a car.
Oh, well, he's I mean, he's OK.
Any playable characters that you're going to get a card.
Yeah, sure.
Um, yeah, man.
No, there's a bunch of good old Capcom fabric.
You tell me like Ellis from Caliban Cove,
which is not a video game got in.
I'd lose my shit.
Um, yeah.
So that and I'm going to do a better
when I get a chance to properly sit down.
Oh, yeah, every one of those comms
reploids from Mega Man.
Shut up. Are you serious?
All of those calm girls are all like there as cards as well.
Totally.
Anyway, if if I get a chance to like I'm going to I'm going to this week,
I'm going to sit down and do a proper like video addressing this on the channel, too.
But so I did a poll the other day and I was just kind of like,
yeah, I had some plans for some changes
and I just wanted to like get a little bit of data on like how to fine tune things
going forward.
And with the poll that was just asking people on my YouTube channel,
hey, what do you guys like?
What do you show up for?
What is what's the reason you subbed?
What's going on?
People had, of course, a lot of feedback and and used it as an opportunity
to not just answer the poll, but also drop some comments in there.
Which, you know, going through, I was able to get a pretty good idea for
what what people like.
All right, I want to see it.
How frequently they want to see it.
No more fighting games ever, ever get out of here, get out of fighting games.
That's your show.
Yeah, actually.
So here's what's going on, right?
There's a couple of ideas and I don't want to block a player calls you.
You fucking tit, do not answer.
You put your phone down.
So we're going to do like a lot of what we're going to a lot of what's
coming is going to be pretty much that's just the same.
But there's a some whatever black, some changes.
So one of them is going to be that much like was suggested in something
that I started a while back.
I'm going to start streaming my recordings of the LPs, right?
So basically, when I sit down with Reggie or men on a session to start
going through it and whatnot, kind of like I'm doing with Naruto at the moment.
Yeah, I was about to say Naruto gave you the taste of that.
Yeah, we're going to we're going to stream
going through the the LPs.
And that means there's going to be a jump from the present tense to, you know,
yeah, the session and whatnot.
But a lot of the time we during the day we sit down, we started like one at one
p.m. and start going.
So going to start doing that.
So people who want to sort of like hang in there and check out the stream
on the regular can just can do that.
People who prefer that can yeah, I'm getting it.
Yeah.
And then, of course, that's still going to become an episode.
Yeah, that will head out there for most of the people that are enjoying it
on the YouTube YouTube's going great.
There is we haven't even hit news yet.
Oh, there is this.
Have anything to do with your changes?
Actually, it didn't.
Well, the timing, but good fucking timing.
They're not bad.
So I'm going to be doing that.
I would usually do get into fighting games
whenever I could on a Tuesday night, because I was trying to see if I could get
an expert guest to come in and teach how to get you're not going to get them
in the middle of the day because I got to go work some shit.
So that'll stay at nighttime.
But here's the good thing about that.
I couldn't always get guests because like I want to play a lot of Skull Girls,
for example, there's no one here in this city that plays Skull Girls.
No one.
I'm going to have to get my friend from California to come out.
That's a big right.
That's I want to do a KOF episode.
What am I going to do?
Not get hell pockets.
That's silly.
But he also lives in California.
So that's going to be really impossible.
Right.
So this because why don't you just use a green screen and just put a second
version of you.
There you go.
Or.
Behold.
Two things now when we have our guests, we will have our streams,
which are going to be Thursday nights, Thursday nights.
Yeah, OK, freeing that up and moving things around for a little bit,
concentrating it towards the end, because here's the problem.
If I travel and I come back and then this gets moved to a podcast,
gets moved to a Tuesday, then that automatically eats that.
I'm going to tell you right now, I've said this before,
I can't do to Tuesday afternoon pocket.
Yeah, yeah.
So if it doesn't happen on a Monday, then it's got to be a Wednesday.
Yeah.
So in order to avoid the the you know, that situation and whatnot,
let's not go going to go going to go for that Thursday night and hear two things.
Right.
If we have a guest that knows the game and can walk us through it
and teach us how, then we will be doing get into fighting games.
For glory.
But if we don't and we just want to pop a game in such an asshole and dick around
with it, you are such a fucking stupid piece of what we're doing,
please look forward to get into fighting games for fun.
You're such an asshole.
So yeah, man, we're just going to do dumb sessions, bullshit.
There's going to be effectively, it's going to tell you right up top,
which one of the two you're going to be getting.
You're just doing the fucking of F and F scrub lords thing again.
It's just saying I want to play fighting games,
but I don't always have an expert around to teach us how to get into them.
Just to pretend, put on some glasses.
Yeah, I'm just doing it.
And guess what?
I want to play some fighting games.
Yeah.
So please look forward to get into fighting games for fun
and get into fighting games for glory coming soon.
And that'll like allow us to just do it more often
and get more games in with people that just want to chill out.
And obviously, I'm going to imagine that if everyone starts screaming at you
that they hate it, this is all temporary and could go back.
But I doubt that.
I think people just want to watch games and get some fun in there.
And when the opportunity to learn presents itself, which it often doesn't,
it's probably better to have an episode of something casually for fun
than it is to have silence and nothing until the next expert shows up.
That's correct.
Right.
Between Esteban showing his dark stalkers and I guess a smash ultimate.
There was a pretty big gap.
I think the only piece of advice about creative endeavors that I have ever
given that I ever feel confident repeating to people was every I am.
I am surrounded not just by creative types in general.
Like I would call you a creative type, right?
But artists, right?
Of all different styles.
Video artists, proper picture artists.
Everybody wants to make their masterpiece and their amazing, perfect thing.
And they take forever and forever.
And all I tell all of them is like, just make garbage.
Just make more garbage.
Just make as much garbage as you can.
You have to.
And some of it will be good.
You have to.
Yeah.
That's the same advice I gave on Woolly.
We'll figure it out.
Yeah, which will also be coming back more frequently as well.
Because effectively, some of the feedback was not just about like the fighting
game streams and not just about like streaming more often.
There's also like things like, hey, like we would like to see that variety
stuff more often.
Yeah, I'd like to listen to Woolly versus.
It is sorry.
Woolly will figure it out.
It is a calming presence that gives me a brief reprieve for my anxiety to
allow me to masturbate.
I would probably have been one of those comments.
Okay, I was going to say, I didn't, I didn't realize.
No, I don't listen to your stuff.
I don't listen to my care.
The sound of my voice at this point, like, no, I don't even hear it.
Like, how would you even get just turns directly into ideas?
How would you even get through this podcast with such a chumper, you know?
You know, just jam it in between your legs.
Okay, well, maybe it'll make you feel a little taller.
Is that you started that?
You, you, you dove in on that and now you don't want the answer.
That's your fault.
Guess what, folks?
It's not a rocking chair.
You know what?
That's a, hey, you know what?
I'll, hey, I'll take that compliment.
That's all right.
Thanks.
So, uh, then, uh, so there's that is, that's going to happen as well as just, and
this is more of a behind the scenes thing, but just, uh, I'm going to be
dedicating my Fridays to, uh, working on, uh, scripted stuff.
Right.
So whether that's, uh, P O R N, whether that's, uh, you know, Kirby
Lore or anything else fun, I'm going to be just spending my time on Fridays
to do that.
And then that'll come out not as frequently, but every once in a while
it will exist.
Right.
So this is basically what I'm, I'm, uh, rededicating myself towards, uh, with
the channel.
And, um, I think it should be a lot of fun.
Also, uh, lastly, uh, on, uh, in terms of this, just channel update stuff.
Housekeeping.
Housekeeping.
That's a good way of putting it.
Um, one thing that a lot of you guys brought up was just, was like more or less
something to the effects of shut the fuck up.
Wally, you stupid idiot, make a Patreon.
We love you.
Shut up.
I saw that thread.
That thread got big.
Right.
And it was just a lot of people kind of going like, dude, fucking shut up,
shut up and take it.
Right.
Um, so here's what I did.
Uh, I grabbed the URL from the bottom of my Twitch page.
That was a donate button.
Yeah.
And I put it underneath my YouTube videos and wrote the word tip jar next to
it.
That's a step.
That's a step.
Patreon's a much bigger step.
A lot of people don't know that.
Patrons like it's a, it's a process.
It's a fucking thing.
But in terms of like a couple of people that said, more than a couple of people
that said like, dude, even if it's just a tip jar, put your tips in Wally guys.
Come on.
So I was like, okay, come on, this does exist.
It's a URL that sits here.
So let me just put it to URL that when people hit it, money happens.
So let me just, I'll take the thing that, because if they're looking for the one
that's on Patreon.com.
Yeah.
Right.
It's like, okay, well, let me just grab this.
This is here.
So I'll do that.
Like, I guess.
And, but also just thank you, of course, to everybody who gave feedback on that.
A whole lot of people, a good 20,000 people voted on that poll and really said what was
up.
That's a very significant sample size.
Yes.
I get a good feeling for like, you know, if every vote counts as a representation of
many more, then yeah, I think I can course correct.
Oh, well, that's really sweet.
Max in our, in our chat just said that it took him years to say yes to support from
people directly.
It was not easy for him.
Yeah.
And that's, he gets it.
That's really laudable because like, pretty much within a week of streaming, I was saying
like, I'll say any stupid shit, you give me money, just put your fucking money dicks
in my mouth.
I'll suck them.
Max gets it, man.
Like it's something where you can send money to me right now.
Listen, listen, we're trying to say here is that like, when you see that there's a system
where you're like, but I can do this with ads, right?
And the ads will do it.
You don't have to do it person listening because the ads will do it.
Then you want to use that system more, right?
But then comes stuff.
Yeah.
Um,
Oh, I put that ads on anyway.
Yeah.
That too.
Yeah.
Let's throw, let's throw them on.
But that's it.
That's pretty much it.
Yeah.
Um, and you know, somewhere deep down, there's always that fear that like, um, there's always
that fear that, you know, you, you, you, you had, you, you had to the, I can feel it.
I can feel what your emotion is, but I can't like, you head to the con and then you meet
the individual that is like, listen, yeah.
You owe me.
Yeah.
Oh, I haven't encountered that.
Luckily, you know, bought this thing basically and I'm like, Oh, how do I even begin to have
this conversation?
No, I had, I had, I had one where I was like, Hey man, uh, it's me.
I've been subbing for like 18 months and like, I don't know who you are.
I feel like shit right now.
No.
Oops.
No, that's bad.
But yeah, I guess I just, like if I love you though, no, but I guess, like if someone
were to be like, Hey man, here's another bit for, um, uh, Kudalka looking for that Kudalka
LP.
Yeah.
Right.
And, and then it keeps coming in and it's just like still waiting on it and then it's
like, there's a guy who fucking kicked in, I want to say like 28 months of subs to Page
begging for Dragon's talk.
You know, that's the, that's the, I mean, this is the, it's the little, it's the extra
little bit, but it's definitely a bit that, you know, is not completely Max was that Kudalka
guys bugging you too.
They're always around.
Yo Kudalka's okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that you, you know what I mean?
It's a little bit of that in there.
That's really funny.
But guys, thank you so much for, for letting me know and as a, as somebody who's a much
more comfortable, uh, rolling around in, in the shill slime, I have a, I have a piece
of advice for you, Willie, and for everyone at home and you want, you need to take this
to heart.
Lay it on me.
thing to know is that all support emotional physical is no emotional, uh, social media
wise financial is always supported, always appreciated, but the people who give you more
money are your, are your closest friends.
You guys don't know this, but Willie has a tip jar and if you give him 10 or more dollars,
he will be your real friend for real.
He will come to have dinner with you at your mom's house.
He's just kind of busy for the next forever.
Think about that emotion.
Click the para social button.
I think, I think, I do it in a serious thing.
I think that my way of dealing with the awkwardness of a para social relationship is to become
so disgusting that it is like farcical and absurd, uh, right?
Because I genuinely, I'll be serious here for a second.
I genuinely appreciate all the people who subscribe and donate.
I don't think you should ever feel like you need to because, uh, especially there are
people that have written in to ask me like, Hey, I'm sorry, I can't sub this month cause
I'm broke.
And it's like, yeah, don't sub if you're close to broke either, right?
It's like, you know, that's a ridiculous thing, but there are those who do will eventually
feel the way that it's like, Hey man, I'm your subscriber.
We're pals now.
And that's a bizarre and, uh, it is not, no, it's not bizarre.
It's just, it's an unhealthy way to view a financial situation because it puts an onus
on the person giving it to be the recipient of emotions that may not happen.
You deal with it by getting as gross as possible.
Yeah.
I deal with it by going to the events and saying hello.
Yeah.
And, um, so some nice people that have some nice things to say.
Oh, absolutely.
But my idea is that, and I think it's working okay is that by being so disgusting, even
the people who would normally be like, Oh yeah, are like, Oh no, wait, this is silly.
This is silly.
That's gross.
I hate him.
I wrote a relevant genius.
You can't buy love, Joe.
Yeah, but you can rent it for a while.
There you go.
Everybody take your social lessons from fatal fury.
My love is contingent on dollars.
Okay.
So, um, yes, big thanks to everybody on the woolly versus pole.
Let's get into the news.
This late in the game, uh, it's late in the game today for news, so we're going to do
it quick.
There's one big, big motherfucking news we absolutely need to talk about.
And that is the nature of emotional support mid set.
Listen guys, if you're at a fighting game event, you can go off on this.
If you're at a fighting game event and you have the audacity to have the ability to get
laid, you better keep that S O away from you during your set because I swear to God, if
that person comes up and says, you can do it, honey, I'm proud of you and maybe touches
your shoulders a little bit.
That is a flagrant abuse of coaching in fighting games.
And that's why we need to ban girlfriends from smash.
Is this the part where I come in with them, the, the, the measured take?
Yeah, I suppose it is okay.
So there was a complaint about a smash tournament where a player, uh, was, uh, upset because
he couldn't focus because the, the whole crowd was behind him and loud and against him and
also, uh, the judge at the pool was also in that crowd.
And also there was his, the girlfriend of the other player was massaging them between
sets and giving them encouraging words, which then led to the takeaway that, uh, encouraging
words and massages during sets, emotional support is coaching and that should be banned.
He wrote a little essay about it.
Yeah.
Um, it really, it blew up and it was really funny because it's fucking pathetic.
But it really double blew up when Leffen noted top smash player and professional shitbag
weighed in to say emotional support is coaching and should be against the rules.
You like your, I do my research.
You still have it in, still have it in on the, on that, uh, on that dude.
Um, oh, I have a mental list of all the top smash players and why they're dirtbags.
I, I do work on this fucking dumb shit.
And it's not simply for the game that Armada is the one that they're playing who cried
about his controller.
I do.
Hungrybox is the one that had a goddamn coach up there sitting next to him for Evo grand
finals the whole time.
Yes.
Like, and was the one who was like, smash is so important guys.
We really need to have private rooms because we're so much important in the other fighting
games.
This does not condone the messages of one angriest Pat, you know, who does Reggie, because
I saw him responding to this shit going, this stupid shit's why I took the word smasher
out of my bio.
Oh, did he?
Hell yeah.
That's great.
That's funny.
I didn't see it.
No, but here's the deal, all kidding aside, um, what the fuck, that's that idea.
That like you can't have someone just be like, you can do it, honey.
Like it's not real coaching.
It's like that's goofy garbage, right?
It's fucking crazy.
And as someone who is actually someone who is actually from a city that is known for
being loud and abrasive and fucking wild when it comes to supporting our scene.
Uh, Rowdy, a little bit, right?
Um, literally people thinking that Montreal were the ones who sent the ghost of Marvel
to confront Chris G on stage at Evo because we're that's our fucking scene.
Like literally that was the rumor.
Like you can hear Evo, uh, um, uh, pools matches in it during the day where you hear
suddenly MTL in the background, like we fucking go crazy, right?
Listen, I, this even goes back like this is not about fighting games, MTL as a bit of
a history with sports.
Let's call fighting games a sport for a second.
Maybe we win, burn a couple of cop cars, trash the city, maybe, uh, we lose, maybe burn a
couple of cop cars, trash the city, a little bit of hockey, thuggery, maybe, uh, maybe
the, uh, during the 1976 set against the Russians, where the Canadian team loses the
first match in Montreal against the Russians, maybe, uh, be afraid that the fans are going
to rush the ice and dismember the players, um, you know, like a little bit, a little
bit, a little bit.
So here and, uh, and the power of the border makes it so that at times when, uh, let's
say, uh, MTL happens to be doing really well.
And someone nearby from, I don't know, Toronto is there.
Yeah.
They too suddenly join in because by proxy of being six hours away, the area increases
because now we're all the way in Vegas.
Yeah.
So it's funny because usually Toronto and Montreal have a little bit of rivalry, a little
bit of shit talk, but in US, fuck all that leaf, man, it's all about the leaf, right?
So, so if you want to go back to good times, you can go watch, uh, uh, Chee Rithy versus
Filipino champ, uh, in, in Street Fighter four and JS master behind him just going off.
And it is, he's a one man hype army, like talking so much shit.
Why is America so quiet every time, right?
Every time Henry wide and like, it was crazy anyway.
So there's a, but there's a line, right?
And, uh, and I think we talked about this when the story came up last with, uh, Cabba,
who, uh, was, I believe a DR player that like, um, is like one of the guys that like gets
really loud and will yell top volume in your ear from a few feet away and, uh, did it to
CJ truth, who's like, uh, a pretty young player whose parents were there and the parents
were like, what the actual fuck is happening?
Yeah, let's say this is, this is a bit above board.
It's all right below board.
This ain't no good.
Yeah.
So it is like, there is a line where you're like, okay, um, you can't literally like yell
to the point where my eardrums vibrate next to my, my head.
You can't have a situation where the other dudes crew are standing around you in a semi
circle during the set.
Actually yeah, you totally can.
Oh, you can?
Yeah.
And they're allowed to sing songs.
Oh, what are they allowed to sing?
I'm sorry.
Somebody's getting fucked.
Get fucked.
Somebody's getting fucked.
Get fucked.
Oh, man.
You, you get fucked.
That's allowed.
That is allowed.
You're right.
What am I talking about?
That's melodic and musical.
That's okay.
Every time, every time this, it happens more often than Smash, but I mean, it is not unique
Smash where people complain about the fucking venue is fucking me up here, guys.
Like everybody in the crowd is fucking screaming their ass off or there's somebody hassling
me, right?
That Tekken video, I think it's in Atlanta.
It shows up of like, what is it, like 20 guys singing that song?
That's the whole thing.
It's the whole thing.
It's a fucking, it's a production.
Dude, it is material for pop off report news.
It's, you know, it's beautiful.
But it was Street Fighter, by the way, but yeah, and Noron Brown, exactly.
That shit comes up all the time as well.
You fucking really get like, like there's gonna, there's a whole plans fucking special
for Noron Brown.
Don't you guys worry about that?
But anyway, um, yeah, but there's level where it's just like, you can use your voice as
a fucking like weapon at points.
Yeah.
And that's where you have to actually.
So yeah, I mean, there's a point where in obviously nearly every rule and if it's not
there, it's an oversight.
It's like, you're not allowed to touch your opponent.
Definitely.
Right.
Definitely.
But, um, woolly, I know for a fact, and I think you can too, and I think most people
can, you can, you can raise your voice to the point where it is indistinguishable from
a human touch.
So something that has happened at most recent tournaments I've entered is early on in the
bracket, someone who knows me or has a crew that, oh, that is aware will gather around
and do that because they're like, yo, you're gonna fight the YouTube guy.
Yeah.
The anti cheerleader squad's coming for that purpose.
Yeah.
Right.
Like it's happened literally at every recent Sam show tournament I went to.
It's fucking hilarious.
Right.
Would be someone being like, oh fuck yo, go beat that YouTuber.
Right.
Yeah.
He ain't shit.
He's just got a YouTube channel.
Whatever.
So that, that is become, that's absolutely a part of it.
Uh, the, uh, the idea that like, yeah, you're like just like emotional support is like
something that's going to tilt you is like, that's, that's silly.
If there's more than that, if it actually was to the level that I'm talking about where
it is like, no, you are like in the ear, disrupting the person, then that needs to be stopped.
My favorite part is that this eventually escalated to the part of like, what's the solution here?
Soundproof rooms for every set.
Mm hmm.
If that's what it takes.
Here's what's crazy too.
If that's what it takes.
Here's what's crazy too.
Cause yeah, I know the comments went a little bit wild, but um, there are some players who
not only don't wear headphones to like, some people wear headphones to listen to the game.
Yeah.
Audio cues are good.
Some people use the headphones to like block out the crowd.
Some people use headphones to play music, which is fucking crazy to me.
They just zone in with their music cause it's the way they lab.
Yeah.
So they feel comfortable, right?
But some people, some players don't use headphones because fuck it.
And others don't use headphones because they get powered up by the crowd.
The spite.
Okay.
The shit.
Infiltration is one of those players that will literally use no headphones and just use
the crowd as like, yeah, then after the match, I'll go take it out somewhere else.
So that's like, you know, it's something where you actually can have people that respond
by like getting a hype with that crowd or to fucking take revenge or and be beast on
the on them and be like, what now, everybody?
All right.
I took your boy out.
What now?
You know, it's interesting, it's interesting, but there's a threshold.
I there if there's video of this incident, I would like to see the video replay of the
shoulder massage.
It's off stream, but there is a video of it.
Okay.
Some guy with their phone was I have not watched it, but there is video footage because I want
to see video of the massage.
I want to see video of the you can do it, baby.
And I want to see video of the volume and the proximity of the crowd to the yeah, it's
always, it's always, oh man, these people, oh boy, I want to ask kids, they love it.
They love it.
All right.
So that's your, that's your must story.
Do you want to have a one line news story that's about fighting games still?
How the fuck jump force get in the fucking game of the year contender for fighting games
at game awards?
What the fuck?
Because it's a joke.
Somebody paid him.
Jeff Keely, I want my Doritos back like that.
If I'm not mistaken, that list of contenders has always been completely like not reflective
of what's happening in the genre.
Smash is going to win it.
So whatever.
It's been out of touch for years.
Why would it suddenly start being in touch?
So you feel like it's a joke when like a fighting game is like the only fighting game up for
game of the year.
And then it's also in the best fighting game category and you're like, I wonder which one's
going to win.
Dude, like they fuck it.
Like the story of Arslan Ash, right, representing Pakistan and fucking crushing it at Evo was
not.
Oh yeah.
Like who?
What?
Nothing.
Just like, I'm not, dude, I'm not.
I don't, I don't even care anymore.
It'll be a trailer for a Smash character at that event though.
Cool.
Yeah.
So watch it.
Catch the announcements.
Yeah.
That's basically the deal, you know, as far as I'm concerned.
Imagine if the Oscars had announcements for video games.
I'd watch the Oscars.
Fuck.
Anyway, so yeah, let's just real quick.
So we got that one, that one gift review of Stadia.
God bless.
Oh boy.
And like to blast through some of the others, hey, Half-Life Alex, Valve's first flagship
VR game announced.
Yeah.
Not much to say because that's all they said, but it's announced.
Flagship VR game.
Don't know what that means yet.
It'll have Alex in it.
Yeah.
Or you'll be Alex.
Cool.
All right.
Closest thing to a Half-Life 3?
No.
Closest thing?
I said no.
Is there anything else that exists?
Mark Laidlaw's description of what the story would have been.
But is there a product?
No.
If you vote one dollar and no one else votes, did you win on the prices right?
No.
Yeah, you did.
No, with Half-Life you don't.
You don't know how.
I am very bitter.
You don't know how.
I am very bitter.
Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do.
Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do.
Do-do-do-do-do-do-do.
Do you carry your Bob Barker?
Bob Barker.
Yeah, okay.
Thank you.
Are you new to your cats, baby?
Yeah.
All day.
What is this?
Fucking amateur hour?
Yeah.
Jew's okay.
Are we fucking around over here?
But he's gotta be old.
What is this?
Gotta get old.
I don't know if you know anything about Greg Rice, but Greg Rice left Double Fine.
I don't know who that is.
He was the publishing boss guy that was in the Double Fine documentaries that were made
back in the day when they were doing the stuff for what you call it, Broken Age.
And I hope he lands on his feet and ends up Double Fine.
Hey.
How about that?
And the timing of it might have to do with the fact that there was a Microsoft acquisition
that might be involved.
And he's like, I'm out of here.
He says he has some cool stuff lined up.
All right.
Good for him, I guess.
We see.
There was, oh yeah, this is just a bit of fun stuff.
But if you're, I don't know, anywhere in North America, you can check out this link.
There's a Gundam 40th anniversary celebration.
Charles Counterattack will be in theaters.
Oh, cool.
On the, what's the date, December 5th?
On December 5th, which is yay, day after my birthday, Charles Counterattack in theaters.
You go to the website and just put in the fucking zip code and see if it's popping in
the theater near you.
But if you wanted to catch CCA in theaters, go do it, Gundam anniversary, go.
Big cool news.
Yeah.
Fun.
Love that.
Remember Death Cargo?
Yes.
Remember what Death Cargo did?
It turned into Death Stranding.
No, it struck our channel.
Because they wanted to hide footage of their old game.
That's right.
Because NecroStorm was preparing for their new game, Gore Breaker.
We now have footage of Gore Breaker.
Don't show it.
Too late.
I don't know if the stream's going to get pulled.
Oh man.
But the sequel to Death Cargo, Gore Breaker, but-
Man, really fuck those guys.
They straight up like contacted us and were like, oh, that's really cool that you're showing
off Death Cargo.
And then when the time came-
And then struck us.
It's insane.
It's kind of insane.
A bunch of assholes.
Well, because it's like, yeah.
It was literally like things were cool and they were like happy with the show off, right?
And then it goes from there to just being like, we have a new game coming.
The old game is now, I guess, embarrassing.
So let's strike all channels with video of it.
What are you fucking, Sega?
To pretend the game doesn't exist and then so that we're new, we can clear the air for
our new game.
What about jerks?
Let's let anyone to look up the old game and see what it used to look like, you know?
So that was fucking, that was shitty, man.
That wasn't cool at all, you know?
Not understanding that like, when you do that, you literally heard a channel.
You salt the earth.
And like, even if you wanted to be like, hey, we don't want people to see this, you couldn't
just shoot a fucking message the same way you emailed and contacted people before.
Nah, man, it's faster, man.
It's faster.
Just send a message saying, hey guys, we want to take this down.
I would take that down in a heartbeat.
But no, you strike the channel.
So that sucked, right?
I was planning to keep it fucking lighter than that, but it was annoying anyway.
But here's the footage of their game and it's it's gory and it looks like a hot mess and
it looks like the perfect kind of like live action jank.
But it's got really, really high quality like live action murder.
Don't you recall it?
Fatalities?
No, no.
Just like the animation.
Animation.
Yeah.
The quality of like the model thing is like, it's pretty detailed.
You know?
Look at this fucking thing.
Yeah.
It's gory.
And he's punching up shit.
Oh, wow.
And he's making these monsters bleed.
And it basically like looks like that was like a school of rage or beats of rage almost
kind of thing.
And just, yeah, and there you go.
Over gory jank.
Come in your way.
The new genre.
Gory jank.
Enjoy it.
If they don't shut you down before you do.
You know, anyway, other small news, but fun Eureka seven coming to Damon X Makina.
There is Eureka seven costumes and an actual Mecca inserted of the Nervash is going to
be playable in Damon X Makina.
So that's super cool and cue the fucking violin music on that OP because if you don't know
about Eureka seven, it's about a surfing robot and it's very cool.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yay for that.
I like it real quick getting through the rest of it.
We have a trailer drop out of fucking nowhere for the thing that's being called megalo box
to that was fast, holy shit.
And much to my enjoyment, the first thing you see in the trailer says seven years later.
So I'm fucking ecstatic megalo box was fucking fantastic.
It was so good.
There's also a shot of dude with beard and fucking gruff ass gruff all over his face.
So we just going in megalo box to junkyard dog.
I love it.
That music man gives me feelings.
There's that one track.
I think it was the interstitial track coming back from the break with the kids sitting on
the the rap.
Yeah, the beast is it's my theme.
It's what I play on my my theme of my stream intro.
Oh, so good.
The fucking beast, man.
Yeah, and the the credits, the the the next episode music and credits music.
It's really good stuff.
All right.
Anyway, Grand Blue Fantasy Versus is coming out in quarter one 2020.
Cool.
Guilty Gear Strive is coming out in later 2020.
So play excerpt now then switch to grand blaze blue and then play that until Guilty
Gear come out.
I may be even longer than that because side games might support this for I bet this game
is going to get a lot of money love big money love from big money company.
Yeah, love money, go money now.
Um, Capcom announces the mark of your dignity.
Gills back, Charles Scar, my DNA, Gil back.
You know, I don't think it's what they intended, but I see Gil and I'm like Street Fighter
Five is now over.
Well, because think about no, no, no, think about think about the end of the story mode.
Right.
Yeah, I so I think there must have been a plan possibly for a second story mode.
Yes.
But then they're like that didn't do anything.
It was expensive and the story was bad.
So let's just cut to the chase and reveal the character.
There you go.
Because he would have come out with that story mode, but there is no story mode hair whack
that these red and blue whack is thong whack Liam O'Brien whack tight as fuck.
Oh, no, I love Liam O'Brien.
You're in his way better than Gil in terms of everything.
I love you're in.
I do not like Gil.
Oh, I didn't know that.
I knew you like you're in.
You did know that.
I didn't know you hated Gil.
Yeah, I love Gil.
Gills blame.
I think Gil Gil.
I love Gil.
I think Gil's cool.
I like the fact that Gil is a non-charge version of urine and that makes him fucking stupid
busted.
Yes, crazy, stupid shit.
And the fact that he could never be balanced into anything fair tragic because it's like
you spent time making a character that you can't actually use.
Well, here's round two.
Let's see if they make him playable.
I think that's the goal this time.
I think what's really funny is that Gil's entire gimmick and third strike was that if
he changed sides, he would change like the red and blue would change sides also and his
moves would change.
And now when you look at his footage in five, he had he like mirrors himself, which is the
total opposite of why that character was created.
Yeah, yeah.
But they do clearly have like, I mean, to make the character something that you can like
use with intention with left and right with the fire and ice, it's just becoming a part
of the play style.
Oh, I just think it's silly.
Yeah.
I mean, for the boss anyway.
And like now then now they made like a mechanic out of it.
But you see fucking Seraphic Wing.
Yeah, very pretty.
Yeah.
Liam O'Brien is not the Gil voice that we used to have.
But Liam O'Brien is great.
But he is great.
And his costume where he looks like a gladiator is nice.
All in all, his costume that he has the toga on looks way better.
Now all in all, I say one, what about that model that is a Urian alt costume where he's
dressed up like Gil?
Now what?
I don't know that one.
Urian has a costume he can wear that turns him into Gil.
Really?
Yes.
That's weird.
I don't like that.
So do they remove that from the game?
Yeah, please.
You know, it's so fucking strange that that's there.
And then two, of course, is like, that's nice.
I don't know if it's enough, but it's nice.
I like the stage.
Stage is very pretty.
You know what else is coming?
Better luck with six guys.
Well, you know what else is coming?
A hundred and thirty three hundred and thirty Chunli costumes.
V skill to yeah, everyone gets a second V skill.
That's a big that's a big job.
That's a big deal.
Yeah, right.
So now you have two V triggers and two V skills.
And I was in the room at Arksis with Reggie when he scrolled
excitedly to the list and saw a Japanese translation of someone talking about
how Ryu's new V skill is a dodge and counter.
And he almost spiked the phone on the ground with salt because poor Reggie,
the real main just can't catch a break.
And he was so mad, dude, because Ryu is I don't know if you know
about the state of this.
Do you know about this at all?
You's not great.
He's beyond ass.
He's beyond ass.
And he has not been in a top eight in, I think, three years.
So I would norm this is going to be maybe it's a little hypocritical even.
I don't think you should balance characters based on their popularity.
But Ryu shouldn't be allowed to be bad.
Wait, are you saying that character usage charts are a bad indicator
of how to balance things?
I do think that.
Do you think that like the character and its moves
are a better indicator of how to balance things?
I do think that.
That's wild.
But somebody censor this, man.
But Ryu is the face.
He's like maybe it's not accurate, but Ryu is fighting games in my mind.
So when when Reggie, who is a poster boy user, got a character
like SoulBadGuy, who is a shoto with a command grab and a ballrog punch.
Yeah.
He was got it all.
He was very happy.
And souls always had it all.
His moves has always been great.
And they always give him more.
Bandit revolver is not enough.
Give him a bandit bringer.
Give him a dive.
Give him the wall kick.
Give him, you know, the whatever version of a volcanic viper
and grand viper you want.
Excuse me, grand viper.
Oh, God, I don't remember it.
The new grand viper move name is like three or four more.
Oh, yeah.
Grand volcanic viper ball.
It's something crazy.
Anyway.
Yeah.
So just on a content level, though,
I'm like, what the fuck are they going to give the Cali?
What's he going to get besides the the the Stomps?
Curious to know.
But Gil's here.
So, yes, that does pretty much mark the end, I would assume.
I would really, really like for SF5 to be super good
because I feel comfortable playing SF5.
But I feel like they I feel like it's been out for long enough
and we've been talking like they really just dropped the ball
on a lot of the implementation on that stuff.
I just realized that a really important point
when we talked back about guilty gear was left hanging
because we moved on to stuff.
Sure.
But did I did I not bring up like crush counters?
You did.
And I didn't get to elaborate on why it's better in guilty gear.
You didn't.
OK, so people hate crush counters and guilty gear is going
to be counter focused, right, as well.
But the problem with crush counters is I mean,
people have different ones, but one of the major ones,
according to like the way I feel about it
and from talking to other people is that some people get crush
counters on attacks that they can do frequently
as their best tools in the game and others don't and others don't.
So it's a really important thing that you have to do in matches
that some people get way more often than others,
including sometimes people can't get anything off of it at all.
So it's a it's a system mechanic
that is not applicable system wide.
So as for example, I played enough Zangief to know
that he's got some good long hidden pokes
that crush counter and pop you up in the air
and I can do a little SPD in the air and get some damage off of it.
Bison can get a big knee on you.
Really good. Yeah, this is good stuff.
Good luck for you.
Good luck for you.
The character who literally was shown doing a crush counter first
in the entire game, you know,
or Nikali gets like a low fierce that like pops you up
and like you can't really get a follow up on it.
Like you get you get you get one DP or a stomp.
It's it's it's the fucking like primary new mechanic in the game.
Yeah. And not everybody can do it.
It's probably than others. Exactly.
Whereas dust is dust and everyone everybody got dust.
Everyone has a dust.
Dust is pretty much the same for everybody, right?
And it hits.
They're all faster now and they all blow you up in that same way.
So, you know, yeah.
You'll take your better than Street Fighter five right there.
Bam. Take that.
Me.
I forgot the line that Gil says, but I'm also excited for that
because I'm also a fan of like Gil's voice.
Shit is amazing.
I'm a fan of the lecturer. Yeah.
Right.
Welcome to my my fucking professors class.
There's a line he says at the end of the trailer.
It's like my perfection does not require training.
And I'm like, that pisses me off.
Like as a as a Street Fighter, like Lornerd or whatever.
I couldn't hear what the last word was. Was it training?
Yeah, my perfection does not require training.
OK. And I'm like, that's in that's fucking infuriating.
And that line alone makes him the villain of Street Fighter
because Bison and fucking Gil have the same thing going on
in that they're bullshit because they cheat.
Interesting.
I'm hoping that his intro is the line they use, though.
It's all the way at the end.
It's at the end of the trailer.
It's his win quote. Yeah.
Um, like, what was it again?
Then the people of the world will rejoice in seeing me or some shit.
Yeah, I love that stuff, dude.
I am all about it.
That's always a ton of fun, you know, up your own ass villain.
You want to beat him even harder?
Yeah, way more interesting than Seth, who uses technology to cheat.
Yeah, it's over.
Like, that's not, you know, so of Street Fighter villains,
we have a fucking the best Street Fighter villain ever,
which is a got.
And then you have Bison, who uses magic soul, bitch, shit to cheat.
And then you have Seth, sorry.
Then you have Gil, who uses Egyptian bullshit magic to cheat.
Then you have Naughty, who uses fucking Seth, who uses what do you call it?
Technology bullshit to cheat.
And then you have fucking Nikali, who uses he's not a villain.
Yeah, he's a villain. He's a villain, but he's not the villain.
Yeah, but he uses soul absorption.
Yeah, cheat. Yeah.
But like, then you have Sadler, who uses data to cheat.
But like, Gil is the only one of those fucking villains
that in addition to having that stuff to cheat is a fucking leader of the Illuminati.
Yeah, it's literally the Illuminati. That's a big deal.
Gil killed Epstein.
He did.
He did a Seraphic wing in the jail cell
and the guards were asleep and the cameras turned off
and nobody knows what happened.
But they heard of it.
All they heard out of that cell was the mark of my day.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Let me be the blesser of all souls.
And then they're like, what happened?
They're like, oh, he killed himself.
Oh, man, totally. Yeah.
Big, big suicides.
Yeah.
Just the fucking rainbow effect coming from out of the jail cells.
Come on. Come on. Resurrection.
Come on, Mara. Don't do it. Come on.
Uh, what other news we got?
Slow news week, right?
Quite.
Yeah.
Um, to the chase, then.
Uh, I suppose.
Oh, whoops. That's not the button I wanted.
Neither was that one.
Um, oh, yeah.
Well, okay, we can just, we can just talk about this then.
This is a little fun thing.
Oh, yeah, let's talk about the fun thing.
Time Stamps guy, uh, has, uh, decided to put together a
Kickstarter for a Kickstarter, because Time Stamps guy who
does the podcast, Time Stamps, yes, wants to get the
Baz into pedal crash, which is, uh, this puzzle game that's
being kickstarted.
And so that's what I was so confused.
Yeah.
When I saw this pedal crash is a Kickstarter and they've got
a, uh, a tier for getting a character in the game.
So he's putting together a Kickstarter and, uh, he's
basically trying to continue and see if we can crowd source.
This is the actual most hilarious way that the Baz legacy
can go is that the person with no game has a fan base,
despite having nothing that puts him into more things,
despite having nothing.
And this, this is the idea that like was started a little
while ago, that when I heard it, it fucking made me giddy.
Is the idea of the crowdsourced, the open source
jobber.
Baz is all of yours.
The open source jobber that can just show up when I saw him
making it into games that I never heard of.
Oh yeah, you knew it was getting there.
This is, this is like, okay, we've, we've take, it's the
next level of it.
Right.
It's like, I remember when I'm playing Hollow Knight and
people like, go check out Zubuck.
I'm like, who?
I don't.
What?
I don't remember the guys talking about or that racing
game where he's like talking mad shit.
Yes.
Right.
So wonderful.
All about that life.
So if you guys want to help timestamp guy, then yeah, head
on over to this.
It's the pedal crash, the Baz DLC Kickstarter, which is for a
Kickstarter, and he will then get into the puzzle game
pedal crash.
Soon comes the Kickstarter to get timestamp guy to make the
Kickstarter.
Yes.
Buy him a sandwich.
Love it.
And like, of course, Baz would need such a pathetic means.
Oh yeah.
This is shameful.
Yeah, making it work out like it's so on brand for there to
be the crowdfund of the crowdfunds because he can't fucking
make it.
Can't do it.
He's got no clout.
Love it.
Love it.
Love it.
That only gets in on the charity of others.
Yep.
100,000 percent, but people still, they want to see him.
He's the Barry Harowitz of the video game industry.
Big time WWE jobber.
Okay, right over, right over my fucking hand.
Yep.
Showed up fucking got bodied 100% of the time.
Damn.
That sucks.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's it.
Let's take some letters.
That's it.
No other news this week.
Everything's fine.
What are we on here?
Twitch?
We're on Twitch right now.
Everything's fine.
And or podcast listener thing of choice, everything's fine.
Everything's fine.
I have a archive channel on YouTube that I could kill in a
moment that I don't give a shit about.
Can't say the same for me.
Well, it's the coppers.
Oh, no, it's ironic that it's copper, isn't it?
They're at your door.
They're at your door.
Well, actually, they're at the door of the border.
Um, feelers are being sent out to people that would know better
than you or I mean, will he both sent out independent feelers to
find out what's the deal with this Children's Online Privacy
Protection Act and its incoming enforcement by the federal
trach mission United States.
A long time ago, there was probably an early episode of the
podcast and maybe two or three more where we talked about how
every time someone gets mad at the ESRB or Peggy or Sarah, how
they need to stop and hold up and understand the situation,
right?
And understand the reason that the ESRB exists.
Uh, and the importance of understanding that is because
video games are not something that the government understands.
And thus, when complaints are like brought against it, the
government is like, what the fuck is going on over here?
Yeah.
Right.
And, uh, the ESRB is the only thing holding the government back
from stepping in, not understanding what it's looking at and
just start shooting motherfuckers.
Right.
So now the ESRB is a self policing in like part of the industry
required because between the FTC and a bunch of people that are
not exactly in games, but kind of adjacent.
They can at least talk to some people that might have an idea
about what a video game should be rated as and then the FTC can
go as long as you handle it, then fine.
Now let's sidestep this from video games in general to content
in general and talk about data collection.
Ideally, most industries would have the good sense to regulate
themselves so that government bodies don't come and fuck them.
Well, Google and YouTube did not have that common sense.
There is a, the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act to my
knowledge was created in 1998.
It is old.
It is fucking old and it gets updated every ten-ish years, a
little earlier, a little later.
Got bumped up this time around because of complaints.
Apparently this has nothing to do with Elsa Gate.
Shit off.
Nothing to do with Creeper Comet Gate.
So what it has to do is the COPPA is about, hey, tech companies,
you don't have the right to take down all sorts of weird creep
ass personalized information about 12 year olds.
Don't record their viewing habits.
Don't record what they click on.
Don't do it.
They don't have the ability to consent to a EULA or any
legal documentation.
Therefore, it would be de facto illegal for you to collect
that information, assuming they had made it.
YouTube got around COPPA way back by saying you got to be 13
years old to make a YouTube account.
Period.
Yep.
Done.
Trivial, everything solved, everything fine.
Then YouTube started its algorithms, its data acquisitions,
its ad integrations from Google.
And very quickly because of the way the data collection works,
you can tell what accounts are actually being used by fucking
children, the ones that are watching Peppa Pig all day and shit.
And YouTube said, you know what we should do?
We should put out fucking for real ads to companies saying,
hey, we have the personal viewing habits of millions of children.
Do you want to advertise to them?
And at some point, someone told the FTC about this to which
the Federal Trade Commission of the United States went,
what the actual fuck and brought the hammer down on YouTube and
now they had to pay a couple hundred million dollar fine.
But more importantly, they said, well, we can't trust you with
your bullshit anymore.
So now we're going to be taking a real good fucking long look
at you, including everybody who uploads shit to your platform.
So was this YouTube's fault?
One hundred, one hundred and fifty built two hundred and nine
two thousand and nineteen percent.
YouTube's fault to blame the FTC for the ongoing troubles is naive
and honestly unfair because they are responding to a gross negligent.
No, it's not negligent.
A gross misuse of existing law.
It's a flagrant legal violation and it's about the kids.
So yeah, the government's going to step in and go with the fuck.
However, the thought process is at this point, does it even matter?
Nope, doesn't.
So it's happening.
So what's happening?
Well, you got to let everybody know whether or not your channel
and or videos are for kids or not for kids and kids is a legal term.
I didn't know that kids is legal term in the US.
It means 12 years and 364 days or younger, but they never specified
like I expected at some point legal documentation would say
something like children, but it uses the word kids because in
the US it's a legal term.
Yeah, very well.
So the basic deal is this on YouTube, you can currently either set
any video or your entire entire channel as not for kids or for kids.
Now, because of the way that all of this has been talked about,
you would think, oh, I'm going to protect myself and set everything
as not for kids and that way the FTC will see.
Hey, this video about Pokemon is not for kids.
Therefore, I'm not liable for the shit actually because of the
fucked up language involved.
That's actually backwards by marking it as not for kids.
You're giving YouTube the permission to collect data on anybody
who watches that video.
And if it's a Pokemon video that appears to have been marketed
towards children anyway, you are essentially saying I marked it
for kids so that I get the money, but I know it's for kids,
which makes you in violation of COPPA, which means that you are
liable to get super fucked by the US government with a $42,000
fine up to $42,000 fine per infraction per video.
And it doesn't matter if you live in the US or not because it's
applying international.
Well, that's where it gets complicated because the FTC probably
doesn't have the legal authority to love the fines against foreigners.
The Canadian equivalent of the FTC also does not have the legal
authority to level fines at all.
So that's really iffy.
That's weird.
Every time any of this talks about it, whether I talk about it,
whether I see Aaron talk about it, whether you see Chad Tronex
talk about it, Jim Sterling talk about it, or will they talk about
it, everyone's going to end their little speech and say, I read
the stupid shit, but if you're freaked out about this, you should
really talk to a lawyer.
Boy, I'd prefer it if they would just delete the video.
Yeah.
If they said, Hey, you're in violation of COPPA video killed,
but nope, doesn't work like that.
So in the current status, everybody is floundering and when people
are talking to lawyers, they're unfortunately getting different
advice because it's untested law.
No one's been sued yet because the problem is when you get into
the areas that we get into, which is adult man babies, adult
man babies and adult man baby content.
Yes, looks identical to an FTC worker.
For example, if you are still technically the co-owner of a
YouTube channel that uses bright, colorful graphics,
childlike cartoons, Kirby music, and has a childlike title
such as best friends play, you may wonder if an FTC individual
would look at that and go, Hmm, that looks like it's targeting
children or advertisers.
Minecraft, Super Mario Odyssey, Lego, toy reviews, serial universe,
arts and crafts, anything, all sorts of stupid shit.
So, yep, there's going to be a regard.
Let's say nothing happens at all and they only go after the real
motherfuckers who are obviously skirting the law abusively.
You're still going to see a lot of people paranoid jerk their fucking
channels to death because nobody wants to get fucked.
But what happens when you when you set your channel to two
children to four kids?
Well, what happens is you comments are all deleted and disabled.
Goodbye comments, not the end of the world.
Honestly, all embeds, all community pages go away.
All ability to search and show up in recommendations is gone
are removed and you make about 90% less CPM.
Yeah, which means the video might as well not exist from
monetary or even like usability standpoint.
It might as well not exist because no one's on it.
No one's talking.
No one's allowed to can't track anything.
Can't make any money.
Now, if you're not running ads, search the recommended.
If you're not running ads on your content and you're just
running a patreon, you know what?
That's not the end of the world.
Yeah, except YouTube just put in a new rule a few weeks ago
saying that they would delete your channel if they determine
that it is not financially viable to keep it going.
So if they're not running ads on your stuff because you happen
to run it on monetized because it's for kids, then it's a
wonderful, exciting new world of YouTube.
Yeah.
So if you're a cartoon creator, if you're a two snacks,
a kind of a cranky construct, if you're playing videos, if you
happen to be a person who makes videos for adults that have a
Pokemon in them, things that like because the FTC is not
necessarily going to understand that everything that's a
cartoon is not for kids.
Yeah, the guidelines are terrifying because they say
cartoons are obviously for children and like that's not
true.
The language they use like hey guys and stuff and duh and
cool from 1998.
Yeah.
Metalocalypse is not for children.
That's a cartoon.
Mortal Combat is a video game.
That's true and it's explicitly not for children.
Worse yet is if you like if you have content that's like happy
tree friends.
Yeah, I've lost it.
Where you like the whole joke is that you're pretending to be
a kid's show.
Yeah, you're just not allowed to make that anymore.
Take that.
Take that.
Wonder Shousen.
That's gone.
Like anything that's like I like that don't hug me.
I'm scared.
Yeah.
Anything that's ironically like cute and scary is gone.
Slash fucked.
So this goes into effect January 1st.
Lot of big unknowns.
Currently waiting to hear back from smarter people than me.
What's up with that light?
That's fine.
Okay.
I'm just playing with it.
So it's either going to be scary but fine or it will be the
complete destruction of YouTube as a video platform.
A lot of people were saying this is not just any other update
and then YouTube came out and said this is not just any other
update and the FTC gave that thing where the guy was almost
determined to make it like terrifying almost as scary as
possible.
There's an F.
There's a quote from an FTC official and says it's like shooting
fish in a barrel.
YouTube is the barrel and the content creators are the fish
and it's like what why are you talking about us like like we're
prey man.
Yeah.
Now there is we have many ways of searching those 23 million
channels.
You know and when we're talking about penalties or aggressiveness
we're typically talking about civil penalties which means money.
There is a point that Jim brought up which I do feel is reasonable
but I'm not going to stand by it because I don't want to stand
by any of this because I could be wrong which is the FTC doesn't
have that literally does not have the resources to go after
a hundred million videos.
There's not enough like timing the universe for those to go
through the courts.
It's very likely they're going to pick someone and fuck them
really bad.
If I had to fucking throw down the wildest guess I would say
that the Grumps and Markiplier because of the way their content
looks and their popularity are probably the most at risk for
being the example.
Well you see so the question is right but here's the thing
like you're thinking in a video game context but like this is
broader because there's way broader.
Yeah there's people that do their toy reviews and their serial
reviews and their unboxings and their you know whatever's in
fucking who's you know like there's the guy who was watching
this video the other day is a 1.6 million sub guy does Lego
reviews.
That's it just just like a review.
Yeah so so that's so that's the thing is just like there's a
part of this where it's like the entire nature of video games
is like very very likely to be misunderstood by the FTC and
there's a bunch of other categories of YouTube where that
will happen.
But what we did here is that there's a feedback page where
everyone can go and leave a message of feedback before this
goes live on January 1st which feels like pissing in the wind
but do it anyway hopefully it's not and then at the very least
they can understand that it's like what you're trying to protect
makes a ton of sense but there is a slightly complicated issue
in the manner which is there are a lot of adult man babies many
many who happen to like cartoons video games cereal ice cream
and toys yes and want content featuring all of these things
now I will say a lot of people this is not just about YouTube
it's about everybody everybody but I mean look at which right
with which all you got to say is this mature audiences free
you're free and fucking clear right because the the fucking
shit doesn't track bullshit unless you hit I'm over 18 click
right and at which isn't even ad based anyway it's sub based
right so fine right but yeah it's everybody there's all sorts
of video services are going to get bopped like this just
YouTube's getting bopped by far the hardest because they steal
the kids information see it's almost as if like it would
have been simpler if the split to the YouTube kids platform
yeah would have actually just taken the kids videos and made
a hard line distinction between the two yeah well
what do you expect YouTube to do something
if you've got a letter
you can send it into castle super beast male at gmail.com
don't ask us about copper we're not the smartest people to talk
to go find somebody smarter waiting for someone smarter to
tell me what to do or not so I'm doing like the current piece
of advice I've received is don't do shit yet the only one
that's currently actively running like between us that's
actively running a YouTube channel that's that matters
yeah you know but I don't know my YouTube channel
that was faux concern
it's for them not for you
so you can be streaming the LPs now on Twitch huh well
that's crazy
got a question coming in and this question comes in from
will says here they're Woolsworth and Paddington
now that Death Stranding is out in the world and with the news
from a few weeks back that's very plus pseudo we're looking
to collaborate so I'm doing if I could get your thoughts on
the tendency slash risk risk expectation of people at the
tops of their fields to well go nuts the same can happen in
music with performers falling down a jazz hole or becoming
too proficient to listen to or art movements producing some
of the biggest weirdos in media overall pursuing a new or naive
style after years of otherwise mainstream proficiency on the
other hand some artists and creators sit firmly atop the
middle ground with broad approval and good commercials
prospects but risk stagnation as the world moves on how much
do the fields of mad men need to push boundaries is the risk
of these creators worth the jeopardy of leaping into the
unknown would you rather maintain the middle or face
uncertainty at the edge there's an obvious middle ground and
that middle ground is keep doing the thing you're good at
and people like and then do the weird thing for fun and if the
weird thing for fun takes off like crazy good for you you'll
be artistically fulfilled and if you if the weird thing is
what people love you for then like that's what you can get
and should probably keep doing there's a reason when you go
to a Madonna concert and somebody yells out play is saying
like a virgin and Madonna's like uh people get fucking pissed
because it's like hey she doesn't go oh she goes how does
that go again oh yeah you're right she doesn't remember the
own song but at the same time if David Lidge does something
and people don't like it what do people say a David Lynch
David Lynch you're gonna do actually hold him accountable to
the shit he makes he's crazy out of your mind I don't even
want to talk to him he's fucking nuts there you go he gets
off the reason why Death Stranding is so crazy is because
Kojima had to reign it in so long on Metal Gear if swerry
and suit are getting together to work on something I want it
to be fucking crazy yeah um too crazy to actually play maybe
I say mcdonough
oh what'd you say did I say mcdonough you oh
mmm
damn it
hey willow and pat rat have you ever had a character in media
that you thought you would like then scream that it was a
character for you and it screamed like it was a character
for you in terms of design etc but when you actually watched
her play that you ended up not liking or caring for them for
me it was all over Armstrong from full metal alchemist
everything seemed right and up my alley cool strong badass
military commander whose troops respected her um satsuki being
my favorite anime character but I want to actually watch a
show I kind of just went lukewarm on her thanks from Pat
squared nah man I'm I'm I'm crap I like all the characters
I'm supposed to like I was sad to find out that I could not
play crimson viper yeah but then most people can then again
neither could the rest of the world
I like Olivia Armstrong she looks at you like you're disgusting
um and let's take one over here from
uh
what do you want to be called sky
hello castle boomer beast probably sorry I will not make it
to the news this week popular media game as your lane wait
wait this probably will not make it to the podcast news this
week popular mobile game as your lane where where you collect
ships waifus has this bug that lets you zoom in on the ship
sprites uh and the live 2D sprites in certain moments the
devs acknowledge this as a bug and after the players yelling
about not fixing it decided to keep it as an additional feature
menu in the game what are your favorite glitch turned into a
feature moment if you play warframe uh that game is nothing
but that happening over and over and over again the bullet
jumping was a bug with the melee animation they recently had
they had some bugs with the way colors showed up on characters
and then they just put it in they recently had a thing where
you were there's a thing called ephemera which is like a
particle effect you can equip to your character and there was
a bug with the menu that you could accidentally equip it to
your dog as well and they were like oh wait that's cool fuck
it you can do that now so my favorite used to be combos and
street fighter too yeah that's up there but then that story was
disproven as as not real no combos were intended no someone
went in did the research and fall looked up to the rumor and
there's a story on event hubs about how the often cited rumor
about combos being an unintended side effect of uh the game
system was totally not the case I hate this and that the devs
and Akira Nishitani at the time did you know they were in and
intended it no combos are not a bug combos are real do them
thus my new favorites probably would be I mean okay obviously
there's like distorted real impact well but I was going to
say like the origins of Dante to begin with yeah right fucking
make an Onimusha they're like yo this sword juggles these
enemies like fucking crazy stuff with that they're like I don't
know but that's not what this game is so then they want to
make you mean resident no no they then went from the juggling
that was in that like it went from the they first saw it in
Onimusha and then they went like let's put this system in the
one of the demos for in the the much Macaulay Ari for Ari
for Tony yeah whatever Tony Redgrave version of Ari for which
will never see unfortunately but the juggling idea first
happened in Onimusha and then I know that and then they brought
it to that that build exactly so and then that then that became
DMC one so that became an entire thing it's it's less of a
feature and more of an entire franchise one that I remember
hearing about a while ago was that apparently when they were
making like like strong not strong self-sufficient female
protagonist Lara Croft yes they accidentally hit the slider
and her chest size went from 50% to 150% by mistake and then
the dev team saw it and went yeah now that's good though yeah
that's good and then kept it in there but it was not
and then born it was not intended for it to be the way it
came somebody in chat just said it so I won't take and the third
one I had on my list was skiing in tribes there it is it's
it's it defines that series forever skiing in tribes kicks
ass if you like Titanfall speed go check that shit out yep
basically you just jump a bunch as you're accelerating and then
you just slide at stupid breakneck speeds and kind of makes
it look like again the way Titanfall would look when you
would do what the fuck is a bunny hopping it's it's always
fascinating to me and it's not limited to games but it's like
you're making something and then you horribly fuck it up
and then you're like this is so much better than the idea I
had in my head the version of tribes that existed before
skiing is a fucking joke yeah compared to tribes after
skiing right it wouldn't have mattered at all yeah rocket
jumping was definitely those and the spy in TF2 was all
the unintended as well it was totally a bug off of like
whatever the first like mod because Team Fortress is a mod
of whatever yeah TFC yeah so well not TFC just TF but like
the names appearing wrong and shit like that was like wait
what and they're like wait what if there's a character
designed around this is a cool idea so that's yeah those are
probably the best ones those are probably the best ones
all right
so yeah
that's it
I was a that was a long one as a good one I like it's 530
holy shit yeah hungry I'm gonna go get a steak fucking
starving but you know whatever check out stuff if you like
it yeah I do truth streams over twitch.tv slash angry's pat
I'll be doing tomorrow and Friday by tomorrow I mean Thursday
and Friday those will be Death Stranding days starting at
8 p.m. Eastern you know fuck around with Death Stranding
probably build some roads and piss on some ghosts I got a
fucked up week because I have to hit a wedding this weekend
are you serious have to go to a friend yep Jesus man it's
crazy I'm I get no I get no fucking rest just go sleep right
now so in the meantime well I have to make the podcast and
then after the podcast I have to get the Digo interview up
that's getting a view up so I got a Digo interview to nope
nope nope didn't get didn't do that so I don't get to sleep
however the channel will continue with Death Stranding
with that that indivisible and of course with Naruto which
is popping off right now Naruto is popping up so I got a look
at that intro yesterday and that's a pretty good intro thank
you appreciate it I tried very hard worked very hard to not
work at all and yeah some people are kind of warning me
that they're like yo Death Stranding is gonna take forever
it's really long okay so is like there might be points that
like some sort of time compression might be required
I'm not sure we'll see how that you should start playing that
game off stream and just do non-story shit well that's the
thought right or played on stream and then the episodes
can be what we'll see I'm not the way I've been doing it as
I've been playing it for five hours of three four nights a
week on stream yep and then I've been be lining story content
unless everyone screaming at me to build a road yeah and then
I fuck around and just do side deliveries for funsies off
stream because yeah it's fucking long it's 40 hours if you
hardcore be lining it will be the longest thing on Woolly
versus for quite some time okay yeah for the sake of that
not happening and having people just get fucking turned off
by just the like the commitment length is you know it might
be possible to perhaps address that but if we stream then
you know you got a little bit of free you do all sorts stupid
shit a little bit of freedom you know so let's let's see how
it go all right all right you'll get a feeling on it the
game is actually very upfront with its pacing and its
structure it's a good game yeah but if it's also it's if it's
long and exciting then that's fine too I would call
destraining a lot of things but I don't think I would ever
call it exciting hey all right all right podcast over now
thanks copper
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