Castle Super Beast - CSB 052: Ukrainian Scientists In The Dugout

Episode Date: January 23, 2020

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D time play Two hours you Maybe three and a half maybe four. Okay. All right get your bingo card out ready starting the podcast sleepy Has been crossed off for one second there, but let's show the power of the ability to fight through it By having a really good podcast continuing to have a podcast. Oh, okay. I'm glad okay Cuz okay, we can have a podcast. I don't know if we can have a really good. Yeah, I mean just because I had those two hours Of sleep doesn't mean I can't turn on all my fake juice. Oh, man. I love that. I love fake juice and Just be like yeah, let's do it

Right cuz even though you really want to be like hey, what's up? Good morning? Welcome to the park I don't know that has certain energy. It does but like we don't have to do that. We can do this We can do this we can hey. Hey everyone You know I have given up on turning on my fake juice for Nintendo Conferences or directs that are at nine in the morning. I hate it. I hate that they do it and On both times that I've done it now. I have been sad I think I think watch alongs are

Sometimes beneficial often times not Depends on whether something everybody let's have our big excitement for something we'll talk about in the newsletter Depends on whether something cool happens, you know, yeah, and what I didn't like what I definitely didn't like I didn't like how the lack of cool things happening created An astounding level of cynicism for everything that was not the stuff that we were into Like it really after a point like there's a okay That's not to say that it's ever warranted to walk up on a stage and go TV TV TV TV TV

Oh, man, that was a good to people even remember that that was terrible time ago. That's a that's a term Don't do that. That's not ever warranted, but but There was definitely a thing where it's just like hey, man. I'm not into cars, right? Yeah, I had no I could definitely sit here and just shit on that for a while But it's like but at the same time it's like just no reason to shit on it. It's just a genre you're not into But it would create a definite thing of like after a couple Shows slash hours of nothing that you're interested in happening at a show that you're hoping one thing that I just want Like maybe this company makes one thing you care about

Yeah, maybe I'll see that one thing right and you don't get it And then you're just like what was the point of the comfort? I woke up early for this and so the whole thing is just like fuck you be soft when you're gonna make what I want You know, yeah, okay. Well, why bother? Yeah, you know, so I didn't like that because it drives the engine of the internet Emotion sure emotion I Think if you can

Make like something magical like that I don't know. I don't know the name of the the content creator that made the like a fucking Louvre cause. Oh But God that type of editing that dudes incredible It's so good and it's and that type of editing in post Will always be strong because you're grabbing the best bits and doing something with them Certainly, but you don't know what's coming when you're coming cat does good stuff as a okay. Well, yeah, that's not the well That's different guy. That's a different guy. Yeah Matt Lee Matt less Matt Lee's okay

That stuff was great and you don't necessarily always get that when you do the watch along turn shit into gold so That's the problem with Banking on these Nintendo directs. I think the bummer is that the best one of these that happened was one that I didn't bother to watch Hmm, which was the Sony direct thing that was a 9am like a Mother in that month and a half ago. Hmm. They said they at the very end They're like and now we'll have a special look at the single-player campaign of Project resistance from Capcom and it was the Nemesis trailer Okay, and it was like okay. That's that's pretty fucking funny. That's pretty good

There of course the near-automata one was also like a gigantic. Yeah, crazy thing that that was off-stream But you know, you just never know What you're gonna get on those things, you know, but like you don't remember the the unimportant I think the not great. I think the we're talking about bileth of course and smash brothers I think the one where this one was extra special Was because in everyone's heart Not their brain or in reality, but in everyone's heart. They already knew what they were going to get Therefore when they didn't get that

disappointment You know what's probably the most interesting thing about Bileth being announced for Smash Brothers. What's that? The tweet that Sakurai made years ago That said Nintendo has chosen all of the potential DLC characters It has been settled if I can make a fun character out of them Then I will do them, but they chose but the list has been chosen. Ah and

That's a very easily forgotten thing because I fucking forgot that you know what else is an interesting point Do you remember when Rex's me costume the Xenoplade 2 character? Got announced as a me costume Sakurai in that in that announcement said well listen we couldn't put Rex into the game because his game is too new and We can't you know, it's it just came out too recently in development and Xenoblade, okay, so yeah, that was particles to it was way farther from that Yeah, that was that that was super not sure then if that's right

Yeah, what then and also he remember he's talking in the video like oh, yeah to get Bileth in we had to play like a Fucking early ass build of Fire Emblem that had like all bunch of shit and just skip to the endings and it's like But Xenoblade Chronicles 2 was out when that development would have started. Well, okay, so that's untrue That is untrue. I hope that the Nintendo comment was also not untrue because yes, that one's probably true It seems like it it seems like it seems like they would want to be like here's what we would allow Here's what we're okay with. Yeah, here's the never's here's the must-have right, you know what? I would like to talk about Bileth now if that's all right. Okay, just very quickly I was scanning his fingers to see if in the counting of

binary if there were any moments that were unintentionally just like Little you know fuck and there is it's in there like it's what it's not really in there people got a screen grab It's it's edited the edit the one that you see is edited. Oh, the real one is like more of a beautiful. Joe. Hey, okay Yeah, I'm sad That's sad. I Think the funniest thing out of all of this is a deep voice was a sentiment that I saw on social media Which was like come on guys Let Fire Emblem just have this one for him to get anything

It's the most Like I like the comic that's like that what that has by let's just kind of tearing up a little bit Everyone's like fuck you. We hate you boo, and she's like, oh, I'm trying my best Okay, and like it's like the characterization of like the Of the Fire Emblem character we're like like showing up and being like, oh, no Everyone hates me and then like like 50 comments underneath it saying yeah, Byleth would not give a shit about that That's not even remotely close to what the character would do But like I was thinking about I talked to some Fire Emblem people and I talked to some smashed people and I got

I somebody made a really nice breakdown like a really long one To read about like hey wire Why are people actually angry instead of just like by let that right and it's it's really obvious that there's no winning on This because this is gonna sound controversial I think by this a really good character to include in Smash Brothers in in their current form with the with the three weapons I'll correct me if I'm wrong, but has Every protagonist from all the new era of Fire Emblem games previous showed up. Yes, and that's the problem So the trend has that problem the trend has been set Byleth is in a really popular hot game that everybody loves. Yeah

Corn wasn't yeah Robin was Lucina's a side character crumbs a side character. Yeah, Ike was not but Ike plays differently Roy was a clone of Marth Lucina is a clone. Yeah, so like if you went back in time and Went Marth Ike Robin Byleth as the Fire Emblem reps They all play different. They're all from wildly different games. They're all from beloved games, but they got Echo Fighters too You know like it's just it's when you go. Hey, I want to play eight-player Smash Fire Emblem. Yep, and I can yeah and You know nothing will take away the fact that this game went past 100%

Oh totally went past 200% You know except and and so at some point you're like You're basically just going I wonder what the next layer of gravy is gonna be you know It's like there's so many layers of gravy It really shows how people's appreciation works and I am not immune to this because I feel the same way But it's goofy because the game came out and was done Wow, what a great roster then the DLC starting coming out. Oh my wow. Oh This roster is incredible, but every time one gets added. It doesn't go to 105%

Just that 100% becomes bigger. No, right and then that 100% now includes some question marks And then when you start at 100 and then you add five but the fifth one's like lame You're now down to 95% despite the addition corn followed up cloud. Yeah That is that is corn followed up cloud in a situation in which when corn got announced that game wasn't even out in the u.s Like that that character got pushed a hundred times harder than Byleth But like but you know, but it's the same. It's almost the same mental tricks as the things that like, you know I was getting I was getting mad at you because of What was it? It was something where it was like just a matter of perspective. I mean

That that's broad that could that could encompass. Yeah Hundreds of situations. Of course it could of course it could I think I think it was I think it was the I think it was Yeah, I think it was something like to the effect of like one like a one version doesn't make one one version of a game Does not have parody and it's in its that doesn't make it worse It just makes it the same and the other one is so it's like style switching not coming to other versions of yeah I'm frustrated. That's not coming to the other right and and like the idea of there being like Like the new thing mm-hmm like gets Spun into a positive immediately into a negative because it now creates

Disharmony, yeah, right in that way and I'm like, oh man, but but the new thing is nice Yes, you know, so like in this case, I definitely have a very unique Feeling about Smash Brothers characters inclusions not being the ones I'm hoping for because I Mean it doesn't have to be stated how much like you and or I would love Dante showing up in Smash Brothers I'm not gonna play him. I just want him to get his his his it's the Oscars, right? It's the Oscars. We want the nominations, right? I Definitely don't have to go go over on like explain how much fucking we like devil may cry

That's that I feel like if you know us at this point, that's an established thing but in a game where this has been so over the top Beyond expectations with who they do pull in and knowing that Iwata Iwata told Sakurai to like make this the thing and also of course knowing there's another six Yeah, the fuck Like yeah, they're gonna add Hilda. They're gonna add Claude Dmitry. It feels it feels Yeah What was the one they had um the the guard the guard guards

It feels almost impossible to like actually take this as like a negative when It's so far over the top already. This should have been the first character and The order they announced it in sure or the third you could have any you know what you know what? Back in the back in the day. You didn't tech throws you throw you soften them Yeah flipping out that you could have softened the throw anything but the last one really any spot but the last but

It doesn't change the fact that like It's It's it's you we are Richie Rich We have a giant pile of toys and the one tossed on the top of the pile is Not the one we know totally you know so I can't help but feel like yeah, that's fine It's it's it's it's not what I wanted weird And it's got it setting my specs it setting my expectations up specifically for this one to be Dante Yeah, it's complicated because on top of that. It's like I don't even play smash

I buy the characters and then I play them once and I go yeah And I'm I assume there's a lot of people who don't even own smash toy collection this toy collection And it's it's it's about the the excitement of the event. Oh my god, and you know, it's the Oscar nomination Yeah, it has nothing to do with the game anymore. I mean fuck the night before this the direct one out I Retweeted a picture of the three fingers being held up By Gohichi Suda who was using it to promote normal heroes three Yeah, then art of Travis touchdown holding up three fingers and you're like That'd be good too. Oh, oh was this oh it's going on over here. It's nothing to worry about nothing

Definitely not, you know, so yeah, I think that huge wave And it created a whole lot of fun new Dante content to and and undone on the Devil May Cry subreddit There was like someone who posted a like a two-folders like memes for Dante in smash memes for Dante not in smash And it's like yeah, that's great. That's great. That's gonna be funny for a while You know Dante sitting sat at a table going woo-hoo this party's not or just photoshopping like Sophis in the background and him going what the hell is this? Say oh, it's great. But yeah And then you all and the other thing too is that like he's the he's definitely the one that has the most headspace right now

Mm-hmm. Um, it Feels like there is a pattern of like certain announcements get Attached to certain characters specifically because it feels like this is right around. This is the time. Mm-hmm, you know But we'll see we have another six to go and if he's not in those six, that's fine That's fine. Sure. We ate you there was something that came out of that that was very happy. Yeah, congratulations to Cuphead. Oh, yeah And you know what? Unlike something like I think Sans could have been an interesting full character. Yeah, I think Cuphead is perfect I agree for a me costume because just point the finger and then shoot the it's the best. Yeah, that's exactly what he is

That's exactly what he should be There's no mug man in there, but whatever right like that is do you also prefer mug man? Yeah, that's great That's great Perfect mug man that that's the kind of thing you'd like, you know, yeah, you'll love to see it Okay, if they're I don't know how many other characters are like that where it's like You're a you're a nice little game and you're a perfect inclusion for a me costume. Yeah, you know There's not a ton of those out there, but I'll tear from Assassin's Creed That's a perfect any time we get into these Western humans, I tell you

So weird any time we get into yeah, hey, I'm gonna say it for Doom guy. I'm gonna say it for Who is the other one you guys are? thinking about Scorpion oh Oh, yeah, the games guys are pushing scorpion or subzero real hard. Yeah. Yeah, you know like I'm Surprised legitimately that rabbits Didn't annoy everybody by getting one It got a costume and then you can file that away in your brain if you don't like it sure it doesn't show up on the character select screen

That's the what really matters Another six god damn. That's so much That's so much. It's at the point where I'm like they have to be third-party because they've run out of Nintendo characters No, you can grab no who else? springman No, why not? I don't want him arms. I'll take anybody over springman arms. Arms deserve some rep Does it? Yeah I'll take your word for it while Luigi

I They're never gonna do it guigie they're never gonna do waluigi waluigi are springman You know wait is it what's waluigi circumcised or uncircumcised? What's the lore ad on this when you do the second set of costumes? Oh, okay? He has that energy. Yeah, the energy changes uh-huh because

Christ is no longer with him. It's gotta pull it right off and In in in in if you want to if you want to stretch it out you can go back to the ones I don't want to stretch it out Speaking of long Snouts, yeah Birdo never showed up birdo never showed up you know And you could pick one really good punch-out character. Oh So to fight little man. Oh that'd be tough

Yeah, they're all the same level of quality pretty much. They're all really good pick one really good one. Yeah Mike Tyson. Well To be honest, I think King Hippo would be the most yeah be King Hippo. You're right. You're completely right, you know So you do have some picks you can grab another Nintendo six if you wanted to but You know, there's some one third-party's ideas as well. I never this guest character or Guest inclusion of any kind in games comes up. There's always this feeling of Was it the right choice? Mm-hmm, or was it the choice that was made at the right time? So I think back to PlayStation all-star all-stars battle royale that included

DMC reboot Dante instead of classic Dante and it's like that was not chosen because it was the right choice It was the time it was the time Yeah, and you look at Bailiff and Bailiff is the time Mm-hmm, and so on and so forth and it's like I hope like, you know, Soler for example I would love to see Soler Soler appeared once in a game in 2011. Yeah Don't care though put them in right but if a character from the trailer of Elden Ring Yeah showed up instead. You'd be like, oh come on. Oh Even if that character be super cool in retrospect. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. That is true

They in their interest. They'd probably be like can we guys can we use our new thing like look because because of the time is a dual-purpose marketing gimmick, yeah, right and To be honest if we were to look at other games where guest characters show up. Those are the worst kinds. Oh, yeah, right It's always best when the guest character is a either Unexpected but great fit or timeless or timeless and thus Zubat requires no justification, right? Here's the other fun bit Let's say the Witcher and to be showed up again Would it again would it not be a little bit like, you know, so caliber kind of stole your thunder Absolutely

Yeah, it'd be like that's great, but 100% The you it would lose impact. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it'd be pretty funny and I'd love to see it has been Everywhere. It's so weird. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm You make them break dance and Monster Hunter so every time you see a Terminator show up in a Mortal Kombat game You're like, I've seen so many fucking Terminators and so many fucking things. Is that a yeah, that's the movie coming out right now every time a hundred percent of the time, um But anyway, I think

Yeah, I think we're looking at layers of gravy. Yeah, you're right after the initial disappointment of the event wore off I'm like, yeah by the school and the the the changes they made to their move set is gonna be cool And the music you'll get is cool. She happens to have style switching Yeah, just to rub it in a little bit and the stage that they have is terrible but Yeah, can't win them all I think I saw a gif of Bile of like flying

It was like, I was very confused by it, but I think my heart has closed off a little bit ever since I kind of went, you know My my number one choice is still Wonder Red and That's not gonna happen So didn't that game only sell like 22,000 copies or something? Like I said, that's not gonna happen But hey like out of the platinum bombs that was the worst one, right? But the but his move list would be perfect. It'd be great, but that's not the point

Let me ask you if you wanted Wonder Red, would you want him to be like a Pikmin sized character? No Okay, no wonder Ed would be Wonder Red size. Okay, but there would be 100% an ability for him to gain the crowd behind him, okay, and It wouldn't be the 101 no, it's in the game of crash, but it would be the what the named ones so the other colors The five or six colors. Yeah, you just you get a crowd of color people helping you out That'd be what that'd be a really fun character. Yeah, I would but and the music. Yeah, and the stage and the state I know exactly what stage would be it'd be the fucking the with the flying around on the ship with the the dragon

I was thinking top of a school bus That's also really good top of a giant school bus That also be really good. Yeah, but it doesn't work in ship Yep, yeah in the highway. Yep Absolutely, and there'd be the two ships and you would jump in them Yep, yep, totally and you could even have like Chugi fighting a battle. Oh, man fucking Wonder Red should be in smash so bad. I do dude. It's it's such a really good pick Here's the thing. I wonder red is not my number one pick to get in

But I agree with you in half in that it is the most astonishing character That's not and everything he would bring. Yeah would be overwhelmingly perfect for smash It would be really really and then when he got announced me and you and I think Reggie Got in one-on-one recently and maybe five to ten other people would be like But what are you gonna what you know and and I have that a song but I'm okay with that because it's like yeah I realized that's not it's not a real that's not gonna happen It's the it's not even what Platinum would want to push it. You don't you don't know you don't know But boy would it be fun?

And then I think I feel like I don't know if we brought it up last week or if I brought this up off Mike Might have been off Mike, but I was saying like what a fun thing to do It I think people would like guest stages more than me costumes Yeah Right depending on the stage. Yeah, so if there's this game that like had a really cool stage concept that you could bring in Mm-hmm, cuz like there's a couple of like there's a couple of clunkers I think the problem with that is stages are way more expensive. Yeah, you're right to make you're right way more Well, you don't have to balance the stages. Well, actually

It's a big thing. It's a big thing. I don't know which would be more expensive actually. I don't know it might not be we're okay animation and and The tons of iterative little things you have to do to tighten up a character. It's hard to say tighten it up but I think there's a lot of some boring stages in smash what and I think Like yeah, and I think like even if you didn't get the game it'd still be fun to be like, you know, let's go to that stage from 101 with the music and the fun little cameos in the background, you know That would that would be a fun thing to do too, man. It's not as full of a commitment. I

Just remembered There was something in that smash direct that filled my heart with absorbent joy and That was Sakurai looking directly at the camera as text popped up on the screen saying is Smash a fighting game. That was pretty fun and him going. I don't know man. It's like It's like well Definitive the creator of smash goes. I don't know man, whatever Maybe not. I bet you his position has changed over the years. Yeah, I bet and I think you can tell via things such as tripping

mm-hmm and Characters who pull items out of the ground at random who are forced to use Items even if you turn them off. Yeah, right. So DDD. Yeah little things like that Like I feel as if you're seeing his evolving position and and ultimately a steadfast and stalwart Smash community saying we don't care what you do as long as we can hit these triggers and turn these things off We will play it this way and him kind of being like I can't stop you So, I mean he could but he doesn't want to like I can't make like you can turn this into a fighting game

Even if that's not my intention Yeah, and even if he turned it off and a lot and forced items to be on all the time I'm worried people would figure out a way within 45 minutes. Yeah, there would be a mod It's already made, you know, oh, no, you know, what it would just Be way more fun than that. Yeah, like items are all on and stage hazards are all on But if you use them or pick them up you lose Mod it so that all the items are still on the stage, but if you hit a on them to pick them up your character explodes Don't try spot dodging over that fucking lightsaber. Don't do it. You might pick it up. Oh, you died. Yeah

Somewhere in tournament like You two King is standing on top of a hammer and has the discipline of like a waterfall Oh my god, look at this man to just not pick up the hammer fending on this hammer He's not picking up the moment of edge guard, right? Like they like the Fox player is floating right back to the and you know, he knows he can get the full pot bonus By just picking up the hammer right now, but no, you can't know you can't you have to know what Willie this this Functions is a great segue Into commentating on fighting games. I would like to ask you about Samurai showdown

What would you like to know? I would like to know About the mind games that circumstances can play on everyone due to the existing context of the way a fighting game is played Samurai showed out as a game of patience high damage and anticipation and at any given moment two fighters might choose to Pause and react and wait to see what your opponent hold down back like that old Honda match It's actually not a bad idea in some cases to be

patient because It's very you can lose that life very quickly. So sometimes you want to take stock of what's happening. Well Or so I thought so you thought and As I was commentating top 16 at Frosty fostings in Chicago this weekend Space detective had a bit of an issue with his stick and it took about 45 seconds before I noticed that You know, who was your co-commentator dynamite dynamite because they they were right there alongside with you Yeah, and so was when I was watching it and I had known the context. I'm like, yeah, I can see it

That was not your fault. I think the funniest thing was that when people were talking about it It wasn't all look at these commentators like this fucking game. Yeah This fucking game combined with cuz hey, here's the fun like when we go back and look at that And I've tweeted it out. You can go see it event. How's made an article about it actually That you can see the chat the crowd Right everyone that was watching it at the same time was into that moment. Oh my god. He's holding down back It's incredible because he wasn't standing idle. Yeah, he was holding down back Right. Yeah, one player was crouching holding down back

And then the other player was moving in and out a little bit. Yeah standing still that's footsies, man That is and then after and then after like 10 seconds He ran in and then dashed back. Yeah, and there's a moment where he dashes in and it's like and like the Yashamaru doesn't flinch. You just like doesn't do anything. You're just like, oh my god, you know the presence But it's they were moving in such a way that it looked like a real a respectful moment Yeah, you know and it turns out it was not it turns out it was a busted troller was broken. Yes, and it's like that is That is that's gonna go down that probably is gonna go down in history as like Samurai showdown dot

before yeah, or I've done it before That's what it is because that game totally looks like that all the time You know and I was really like I'm like, yeah that that that's the perfect 60 seconds just if you want to explain what is this game to can we tell if the players are playing? No That was a really fun time Frosty fostings was good the other thing that

Was a good time was the commentary I did top eight at the mystery game tournament. What mystery game was that well? Every round they switch games. Oh Jesus, so I got to sit down with one Vic font himself spooky mm-hmm the hardest working man and We did top eight commentary for games that we didn't know were going to be announced either So we find out the same time the competitors and everybody else does and all you really have to go on sometimes It's like a music or sound cue before it shows up on the screen It was really fun. They went through games like Mega man arena, I think it was called which is

Honestly the craziest example of money on the table left by Capcom because it's a multiplayer Mega man eight and nine style a man nine and ten style eight bit Shooter fighter. Mm-hmm. So remember how Mega Man seven had like a versus mode I do it's versus mode, but with all the sprites from What well two three four? Oh, right, right, right, right? Everything that fits into that style five et cetera like You just grab a boss or grab

Mega man and then you go to a bunch of stages from those games and you just jump and shoot and slide Yeah, that's it and that sounds fun It was very it was very cool You know and like and if the characters have like each character each boss that has like different styles of attacks It's like, yeah, you can do them so crash man can jump pretty high and Quick man rather and you know would man can make the leaf shield and throw it out And you just play this thing and you're just like, yeah, this is a great game. They had a fun match up But like how is Capcom not actually made this it's Capcom's busy man. It's it would be so

so inexpensive and So like free in terms of like money on the table indie money, whatever, you know They did that Street Fighter cross Mega Man thing that one time because a fan kind of got it in the right door but the idea of Mega Man arena not being a Deathmatch thing that they haven't done this yet is like wild. They've done power battles and they've done Mega Man 7 battle mode But anyway So there's that There's the fact that they switched it up to like an Atari game, I think it was Wizards of War

Which is this old like Oh It was but they had to fight in this game that was essentially imagine Pac-Man Except you could walk around and shoot okay, and you can shoot your opponent All right, and when you go through a gate on to switch sides and locks it off All right, so you're fighting that sounds terrible It was pretty hype because they were fighting for points and at one point towards the end They started to learn some tech and like one player was able to use

Was able to shoot the opponent have him die and then Walk over to his base and spawn camp him and so that as soon as he spawned again He shot him again, you know and then took the took the game like that So that sucks. It was it was like that's when I saw that I when I saw this dude do a spawn camp in a game before Like the words ever existed. Yeah, it got it made sense when spooky said yeah So the thing about this top eight is the last time and the other times we have Mr. Game tournaments These names show up consistently These guys are good at playing random games and adapting on the fly general skill set

Yeah, that was the most fascinating thing to me It was the idea that you could literally be someone that is like your power is to just adapt Within one or two rounds that is your power, sir and get good enough to beat the other person while you're all Are trying to understand the rules. No one knows the rules yet, right? It's that you know that pick a pick a Pick a new character in a random fisticuffs kind of situation and just yeah, they're gonna win Yeah, right there. They find one good thing and then they use it And then the tech in some cases is okay, whatever they did just mirror it Yeah, whatever you looked at might not be as good

So just at least use the tech that they learned at the same time. I see it happen. Do it do better than them We went over from there to some fucking Jank ass shit on the PlayStation one called Kengo and It's a Bushido blade ripoff. Yes Except it was made by the Bushido blade people. Yeah, so they it's a ripoff their own shit, but not really a fucking weird It's just their prototype game. It's fucking Weird and wacky and janky and goofy and it was hilarious because like that's the ultimate in

Too late too bad. You didn't you lost. Yep, cuz it was just like Matt. You find a button. Hope it works Didn't you're dying in two. Oh, well So that went really quickly I would love for there to be a new Bushido blade and for it to become the hottest shit because then matches would look like 90 seconds of no movement right by cuts. Maybe even the stance change at the 30 Yeah, yeah The grand finals They shut down the screen and they went and pulled out a pocket arcade machine

Which is a functioning arcade machine that is the size of a deck of cards Mm-hmm, and they plugged in two micro sticks which were the size of Let's say like a napkin not not this each stick was half of a post-it note Wow, and That was grand finals in super turbo. That's good. Oh perfect. Yeah, perfect Yeah, it was a miracle to see them even doing moves. Yeah, it made the most basic It was like we were watching oh my god To as children for the first time again because you're fighting and you're mashing buttons and you're like, oh my god

That ball rock just did this crazy series of punches. How did he do that? It's wild because you expect nothing on these controls. That's fucking hilarious. Yeah. Yeah You want to you want to go back to the feeling of secret special moves being impressive You put people on some stupid ass controller and ask them where oven mitts and have them play and then when you see it happen It's a magical moment again because you know the weighted clothing is on So yeah, man, the mystery game tournament was was fucking great. That's a fun thing Chicago in general there the other thing we were told to do was hit up this place called Kuma's corner. It's the big burger joint. Mm-hmm was told by more than one

Shietown native that this was the best burger this was dump or have How was it? It was okay. Yeah. Yeah It's very common. Yeah, this is the best shit in town. You get there's like, yeah, it's pretty good. It's good. It was good You know, it's it might be better if you're somewhat less traveled. Yeah It might be you know, but you have to dodge the gunfire to get to it. It adds a certain taste I don't think we were in that part. I don't think we were in that part. I'm saying I'm ignorant of Chicago So am I in my in my brain? Chicago is just like a big gun Shooting into the into a deep dish piece. No, it was

It was here's what it was, right? It was a hotel It was a high stretch of highway and then it was a gigantic parking lot with a mall. Okay So I wasn't even in that part. Yeah, it was just you know, that's all it was America does have those crazy Crazy like mall blocks though. We don't have those Right. That's what one thing about America that I noticed is like they will have like roads that go into A mall's parking lot and make turns around certain stores That's weird and then kind of break off and go back into being roads. Like we have those in like Sparing like sparingly we have moments of like, yeah, this giant parking lot will have a couple of exits

Yeah, right Is how we have it set up and people kind of do circles around and then people drive like maniacs Just directly through the the fucking parking trying to find yeah, or try to try to find parking They'll drive in these big circles or whatever. But like, yeah, it's definitely We're not I'm not used to seeing these like humongous like mall Like subsections with full-on roads in between them, you know, so that was one thing they had but anyway And then I went to galloping ghost

Uh, here's everything you need to know about galloping ghost arcade They have Derakutenchi the fallen angels working on an arcade cabinet Shared with martial masters. They have an Icaruga cabinet and the silver Radiant silver gun cabinet. I saw you playing tatsunoko versus capcom on a cab on a cabinet Yeah, they have the only working primal rage to cabinet. They have midways the grid they have uh The the mountain climber, which is some weird fmv game that looks like

Um dragons lair and uh space ace type of game. What the fuck but then upon closer inspection It's just lupin the third Except this was before lupin the third was localized here. So they just took clips of this anime. What? No Galloping ghost Is the best arcade on the planet It's the best and it will maintain that way because it's the best arcade. Yes There's no danger of it dying because it's the shit. It's the most complete collection of arcade games on the planet because

This is including japan easily for free And as someone who's been to many arcades in japan, like you have to understand how special this place is um They're killing it When you go to a typical, let's say, uh, there's you there's a bunch of different like places in japan. You've got acho You've got hayakihabara. You've got taito game stations everywhere, right? Let's say we take a typical taito game station It'll be uh five floors, right the big red building and you walk in the first two floors are crane games That's right

The top floor is purikura. That's right. So it's really all about floors three and four three and four are broken up into rhythm fighting uh Like giant moving car slash mecca slash Uh gun con or Gundam games and then miscellaneous others They will be multiple repetitions of of things that are popular. Yeah, like here's the blaze blue row Here's the blaze blue row. Here's the Here's the the the the jubit row. Yeah, and so on and so forth. Oh, that game's great. It's fantastic

Right, but in the end as a result, you don't have that much variety No, you just have two floors of a couple of games that are I mean, they're great It's a fun place to go kill some time Excuse me, let's do When you walk into galloping ghost, there is no duplicates Every single machine is unique. That's ridiculous The first room you're standing in probably has 100 cabinets in it and then the adjacent rooms plural all have Let's say 32 50

Right and there are many rooms Going into the distance because they took over the block Yeah, and then there's also rooms going up vertically as well that have more So they're just this giant complex of butts to nuts crammed for space arcade machines running And they're all like they have a few areas where they're like in sections But most of the arcade has random like

Scatter shot Placement. Okay. So you're not going to the light gun section You're just like, oh, I can see house of the dead way over there and I'm standing next to a time crisis machine Yeah, mortal combat is next to joust too Of course next to you know, like and that's great because it enhances the sense of discovery Yeah, because you don't walk through street fighter world warrior championship edition hyper fighting and then you go there it is Right. Yeah, it's much more exciting to just walk through random shit and be like, yo, there's dolphin blue What is this? I don't know what that is. It's my new favorite fucking running gun

I didn't know but now I know, you know Uh, it was it's really just a magical place and like yeah, like if you're out in illinois If you're if you're out there like like you guys have it special like that's a must visit And what's even cool is they print they print out the high scores And a little card above every cabinet. I seriously. Yeah, that's a hell of a lot of work Yeah, so if you print it if you make it if you get a new high score, they put it up there. Oh my goodness, right? I mean, this is this is like the fucking place where if i'm not mistaken king of kong Was taking place, right? This was this was where that happened. So

Uh disgraceful So they actually have another place down the block. That's a same thing with but uh, uh, uh Pinball, yeah, and they're getting pinball machines every week And the first thing the guy like the guy when we walked we walked in is me and jimmy bones walked in and like checked it out And like the guy who was at the counter was just like hey willy. Hey jimmy bones. How you guys doing? They're like Okay, that's cool. What's up, dude? You know, hello, and yeah, and he's like, yeah, so we got this The thing you got this you got that and we got the pinball machine thing over there And I was like you got pinball machine and before I could even open my mouth. He's like, yeah, they got black knight

Yeah, I don't know. Okay. Okay. It's how you know, you know, you stand behind this counter for reasons He knows, you know So it was it was really really really really cool. It's the best arcade. Yeah, it's just like that's non hyperbolic, you know The uh The the one thing that like I was told about in advance was just like sometimes because there's literally hundreds of them You might hit like a button on something and it won't work or you might have to stick somewhere and it's that's that's to be expected but I mean dude like everything I touched seems pretty fine and Like the quality upkeep was pretty high. There was what sonic the fighters had a machine that was like the the crt was faded out

You know shame. What are you gonna do? shame Really? Yeah, and uh, you know a couple people came out I just I did a little last-minute thing to just see like say like I'm gonna be here for a little bit tonight If you're around and you know had full people came out. We played some games had some fun. So That was cool as well. Um I'm so jealous so so jealous of access to that place because it's also at either 15 or 20 dollars for all night What play it's not quarters. Everything's free play. Oh

That's okay. That's that's an important key detail here. That's all right. Yes, it is So you want to try and crack one of these fucking records? You can spend your night working at it. Oh, man Um the the me of 20 years ago Would have really appreciated the chance to get a real real good record on like my one cc clear of like house of the dead I mean, it's you can go do it. That was a long time ago. Yep. They got Darius Darius burst you got now Darius. Yeah, they got like fucking these just these anyway

They have the sega sega sonic the hedgehog which is a sonic game which fucking has a track ball as the means of control and play and you're essentially running on a on a A track ball map

And your brain just kind of autocompletes information I think that was turned into sonic 3d blast Because you run around on sonic 3d in the in the uh the isometric view the same view, right? But the fucking roller the the fucking uh roller ball on it like When you walk by this game and you start playing it it's so weird because Your brain autocompletes information. Why you pick sonic the hedgehog if you play the middle Right where the blue buttons are. Uh-huh, but then there's the red button and the yellow button. Oh, right

You're like, okay, so you hit that yellow button. It's like cool. Do you want to play as uh max the squirrel? Or mighty the armadillo? And you're like, oh, that's where they came from What the fuck is my uh, and then you look up again And sonic is standing next to a red guy and a yellow guy and it's not tails and knuckles That's weird. It's just Fucking the armadillo in the squirrel like it and yeah, it was deeply uncomfortable Right off the jump because i'm like

Like I did not notice Because when you see sonic standing in the middle and a red and yellow blur next to him You don't even look at it twice, you know a ray. Excuse me ray ray and whatever man So no one no one cares. Yeah, no one cares about ray this world So, uh, they have that Working I think every single one of the characters in the sonic fandom is somehow in sonic mania That's where they came from that's weird get out of here sonic friends Sega sonic that whatever whatever

That's weird. That's a terrible title. That's the name of the hedgehog. It's sega sonic the hedgehog Uh, I prefer sardinard the hard hard. Thank you I actually finished a mandalorian. Oh, yeah um I loved it in fall sleep and then thank you did didn't not this time. What a weird story that was it Is not the first time it's happened to me Um, you I'm sure everyone's had that like ghost conversation With somebody I talked to ghosts. Yes. No where you you you fall asleep

You imagine a conversation with someone and when you wake up you try to continue it Oh, yeah, and they go what the fuck are you talking? Yeah, that's awful. Yeah. Yeah worse yet is an argument And then you're like I can't believe you did that shit I'm so mad at you and it's like but that didn't happen and you're like, I know but I'm still mad at you Well, I guess that's your problem then. Yeah, so that happens to people too. Yeah, um I had a dream woolly stole my game boy, and then I woke up and went god damn it. I can't wait on what no I don't have a game boy Damn that woolly

How could he why would he do that? How could dream woolly? Do this to me dream woolly can do anything. You can't trust dream woolly. I'll tell you right now Dream woolly will fuck your day up reminds me of my favorite stupid dream that anyone's told me Which was page describing that A scrooge mcduck gave her a peanut butter sandwich And she bit into it and it wasn't peanut butter. It was filled with bees And the bees stung her mouth and she woke up with a fright going how could scrooge mcduck do this? I've had how could he how could he have done this I've had

So I talked about this a long time ago I've talked about this a long time ago, but I like there was there was a time when I had a recurring dream Of standing on a cliff side and falling off of it All right, and every time we're like Athena And every time I'd fall off it would be third person camera Right, it was very strange. Okay very strange. So I'd be experiencing the weightlessness for a moment But I'd be seeing a third person camera and then like Excuse me

It recurred so often that Like if I had seen a cliff side in media. Yeah, it would sometimes become that cliff. Oh, that's bad. Oh man, right so like When teahawk Holds his hands out at his ending and he's looking at his land I've fallen off of that. Oh, that's weird, dude When uh old red 13 looks over at the overgrowth. Yeah I've fallen off of that. That's weird and I've had a couple of those

Really out there and it's always when it's a cliff side Looking at a everything the light touches is your kingdom. Yeah that keep woolly away from your cliffs He will fall off them. I mean some of them involve me getting pushed. Oh, sure Uh, I would I don't remember by who but it would be really funny if it was the character Like Red 13 and fucking uh, not even mufasa rafiki. Oh, just pushing me off the edge of everything Why would you do this to me? But it's just but it's the same thing every time it always goes to the same shot same place same whatever

But it but like it was just such a weird recurring thing. You know what woolly? That's a higher power trying to tell you something For what it's worth like It wasn't even that bad because I had a couple where like Pseudo lucidity. Yeah was like starting where I'd get pushed off, but I'd like float long before falling Anyway, I ever tell you the story of that dream I had that I was blind spider-man Probably well I'm gonna tell it

I had a dream in which I was blind spider-man and I was it was my only lucid dream ever In which I was like web swinging And like wow. Yeah, I'm doing it. I'm I'm spider-man But I was I couldn't see nothing because my eyes were closed. I wasn't actually blind I just had my eyes closed. I was like, man, this sucks. I have total control of my dream and I'm I'm spider-manning Whip whip, right? This would be so cool. I'm gonna open my eyes So I can enjoy the rest of my blind spider-man dream and then I opened my eyes and I was in my bed And I was yeah like

I'm still pissed off. Yeah, that it was my one lucid dream ever And my attempt to see what was happening. Yeah killed it. Yeah So pissed off. No, I've I've had Yeah, I've had a couple. I've had a couple It's it it's not as easy to make happen as like you Sometimes some people make it sound and some people say you have to train yourself into it. I don't know about any of that Apparently you can train you can train yourself to do anything in an unconscious state. Yeah, you know like or it I think it's about like like

Doing constant checks in your life to sort of like go like am I dreaming right now with your totem or whatever the fuck Yeah, or I'm gonna spin the top. I you know, it's stuck with me in waking life. They tell you that you can't change the light Uh in a room or you can't look at a clock Right because the numbers will be jumbled and the lights won't turn off and on and that's complete horseshit Yeah, it's not done. I've done that in dreams and it's worked and I'm like that. Okay. That's Richard link later lied to me Damn you Fonsi. How would you do this? But um But yeah, like I've had a couple of I had a couple of those and What usually ends up happening is like a sense of weightlessness or like some really long

Moon jumps or like floaty moments in this dream. Do you ever hit the floor? You just fall off the cliff Uh, I don't really ever hit the floor. Good That's the bad part. Yeah Yeah Uh It usually And that's and that's kind of the weird inconsistency is like you would expect to at some point And I feel like it just it just cuts to something else

I feel like it I don't remember though, but I remember the the fall like consistently as a thing Well, that's an incredibly common. We're recurring dream. Yeah falling your teeth falling out. That's never happened that one I I remember hearing that that was a recurring dream. Yeah That's common. Yeah, boy. That's a terrible one to get I can only imagine how awful that would feel not great Um Yeah, but anyway, if you ever find yourself blessed with the ability to like be like, I'm in a dream and I can control it

I'm like Have fun once I had a dream when I was a kid Where frankenstein was chasing me around a grave and it was I mean, that's pretty normal, right? But the weird thing was the pj gen was on the grave playing guitar And I was like help me pj gen specifically gen. Yeah, I was like help me pj gen and she was like, no Okay, and she kept playing guitar and I was like, what? Yeah, yeah I

Definitely I definitely uh remember Ah, whatever. I remember early christian woolly Trying to in trying to try to try to try to talk to girls in dreams and figure out how to do that And be like, hey, do you want to talk about the lord? No, I know. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No when I say christian woolly I mean like I'm reluctantly Oh

Fucking in these rules, but I just have no tool kids, you know, and you're like, all right. Well, anyway. Oh, I see um Is what it is bro. Don't uh Don't be weird about it. So uh, it was frankenstein's monster. It was not dr. Frankenstein To the people who want to know That it being chased by dr. Frankenstein would be much weirder. Ah, but one elie does point out That frankenstein's monster. Yeah went by the same last name himself

He did and thus could also be because he was ostensibly frankenstein's son. So Fuck you those who say, um, actually Actually Yeah, mando is really good and uh, you should watch it and uh, you should take that as your star wars I will do that. I will take that as my yearly mandated star wars Um, they re-upped it and Uh, I hope they don't jump the shark on the series It's

Good and it's very easily spoilable not spoilable runable. Yes. It's delicate. Yes. It's a delicate thing This is a dance that works right now because of how Uh sparse and quiet And not quiet, but like reserved The scripts are probably very short. Okay for each half an hour episode There's probably not that many pages because it's a super simple thing In each case, there's a place to go a person to talk to nothing to do and a thing to kill, you know

i'ma do it So i'ma shoot it. It is very, uh So It's a western yeah, it's a western It's a western. Yeah, I've been hearing this since day one. It's just western have people said that. Oh, yeah Okay, that's the universal consensus interesting. I haven't seen it. I didn't know that people okay. Well, that's the man rides into town Yep, town has a problem. Yeah help us man. I don't want to help you. Okay. I guess I'll help you Man rides out of town. Yeah, have it to be seen again. Yeah

Lone wolf and cub vibes. Yeah totally. Um Samurai seven style wild wild you know like fucking Yeah, so You take your you take your take your kurosawa or you take your westerns and you just you roll in and you roll out That's it and because it's like that of course You often will have like who do you meet in town? Well, let's say there is a town you'll meet one person who will be the character representing that area Yes, and they'll I am the town. Yes

And then you will have your discussion with my husband died in the war Now I got to protect the chitlins with this wind chest this space wind chester or whatever the fuck, you know Yeah, that's it. That's it. So um Because of that because it's so straightforward You can you don't it's like don't fuck it up. Don't put in too much. You know and But what if Darth Vader was there? Yeah

They they they hire their own Batty. Yeah, he there's a caped man. Yeah with a with a fail. Yeah, he's got a weapon. Yeah, that's interesting He does a thing There's you know, it's fun too. Um, there's a part where they needed, uh, storm troopers But apparently did not have the budget to bring in enough storm troopers So they actually went out and hired I think it's the four the 51st. 51st. Yep. There's the the fan platoon They brought him in with their own

You their own fucking which are maculet and they all Played the remains the 51st is a cat in storm trooper division cat in platoon 500 first 504. I forgot a zero. Sure. So them uh, which is real and what's really cool is um Uh, the guy who is teaching, uh, haka. He's a member as well. So like I've seen some of those fucking Amazing and maculet costumes. They they they bust out from time to time and uh, yeah It's insane to me that a star wars show would not have the budget to hire enough storm troopers But it's cool that it resulted in this

I agree. This is the best possible outcome. That show will be ruined in its third season. I god damn hope not Because it's it's so delicate It's so so so delicate You know It is a leaf Enjoy that next one that next one will be good And they're gonna go dead space on it. It's a leaf on the pond right now Floating above the surface

Please do not sink it Yeah, that's that's fine. I mean Yeah, I did some other things like I spent a A bunch of time playing more Dems fighting herds with the devs. Yeah, I think I'm getting To be not ass. Ah, I played I played a couple hours with some some of the Pete the team It's always a fucking Uplifting but depressing feeling. I'm learning to be not ass. Yeah. That was that was fun. I played this windjammer's

SNK this Neo Geo windjammer's not quite windjammer's game called bang beat and holy fuck is it weird and goofy and Not as good because it's like you have to clear all the blocks behind the opponent before you can score And I don't like that version that much, but more investigation is required And akuma is currently fucking rocking teppen with his bullshit. Good teppen akuma. Yeah He's added awakening which is the ability to play a card on top of an existing card That's crazy akuma, which means you're not stuck with like you're when you have all three slots taken You can now just drop another card on top of it and power it up. Yeah and destroy the one underneath And I'm like, fuck me. That's really strong. So, um

That's uh That's tough meta tough meta we're dealing with right now I'm sure you'll manage you seem to be quite adept at tecken my tecken I mean teppen my my my my existing nero skills are no longer that good Damn, so I have to because the meta has shifted. It has shifted. I have to figure it out again But yeah, I'll leave it there. All right. Let's see Hey, woolly they wanted to look at woolly stuff. Where would they go? Well, if you were to go check out woolly versus on twitch and or on

YouTube you could go see the current ongoing death stranding lp happening right now. Mm-hmm. Um, where are you at in it? Just did Uh, virtual two Mm-hmm. No way not virtual to whatever. Yeah, I know you mads to mads to just did mads that's in there Yeah, you're in there. Yeah. Yeah, you're farther than you think. Yeah Yeah, I I walked up to a terminal and they basically told me like Hey, so This is where you're gonna go go talk to this guy do this thing

But then also there's this city here and that's pretty much where that should end goal They showed me where the end goal is the part of the game where you hit it and you go the road the road ends here Yeah, you're right. Well, okay. Well, that's pretty definitive then. Yes. And then yeah, no, they fell on the map and they go dot There it is. So I see it. I've been getting conflicting numbers from people in terms of like how far in I am But depends how much you want to do I guess that's that's how far in you are. Yeah You can go talk to three people Do their requests and then run to the end or you can start cleaning up before you do that So based on the way I've been going I've been dropping zips pretty consistently everywhere

So that when we get to doing the orders I just zipped to those last three locations are real easy to zip together. Okay. They're laughably easy Yeah, I've already got half the mountain zipped up. Yeah, so At the moment I zip it up. Yeah at the moment. I have no problem going from uh, let's say uh, first prepper all the way down to um Photographer. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yep. That's good

That's good. Should be should be fine. I'm not too worried about that's a good game yes, it is uh Also reading some of those those going through those emails We're doing these 0.5 episodes where we we read the emails from everybody Yeah, I just stopped doing that on stream after a while because there's so many there's so so so many But there's some good shit in them But I'm glad we do them as as like again, we tell you it's a 0.5 But there's some good beat some weirdos. Do you know edgar, right? What's the fuck robots?

Yeah, okay. I just assumed that though. I didn't read it. Well, he's there. I'd fuck a robot Would you fuck a robot? I mean, they're the right kind. Okay, define right kind you Like a walley or you're talking like like a human looking one j-hootie. Okay. You want to fuck j-hootie? That's the only that's or do you want j-hootie to fuck you? Hmm You ever hear of a switch? All right Now there's a human size j-hootie. I'm gonna assume it's a console. It's a nintendo console

No, I'm just saying because like a human a normal size j-hootie fucking you you would explode And not with cum I mean like your your body would be sheared Can I introduce new evidence into the courtroom? Yeah hit it to be to be to be his robot So, yeah, good after a good game. It's a good game having a lot of fun with it over on woolly versus you can also Uh catch this week the schedule where uh tomorrow I will be starting a new Lpp p p p Hey, can I ask you what that is afterwards? Sure. Okay. Cool. Are you gonna tell me? Yeah, sure. Okay. Um sometimes well He's like I got a secret project. I'm like, what is it? He's like, I'm not telling you. I'm like, what the fuck

Yeah, what is this? What is this crap? They're not gonna guess you can't guess it but new lp starting Tokyo morage sessions on court. Absolutely We're doing a get into fighting games later on tomorrow night king of fighters 14 and schwarzer blitz And then table lords coming back on saturday Hooray, so that's over on woolly versus Now in comparison to your varied approach, I've been doing pretty much one thing With my week and that's playing resident evil games old resident evil games. That is um

Remember a while ago on podcasts we talked about you don't usually go back and replay old games You generally won and done them. I heard you got some nice ambient out of cvx I saw I saw the posts Where someone said something to the effect of like, okay, I didn't really take it seriously whenever and talked about how boring it was Until my girlfriend woke me up on the couch watching the stream of cvx So that bad Here's the thing right because you go back and play old classics everybody does from time to time, right? But there's a really special thing

That happens when you go back and play old classics in a row fast In the same week or two week or three week period. I forget what it is now I got through re1 re2 re3 cvx and now remake you feel the flaws You feel it like jump to the top because you're seeing it Within one day to the next it's like it's like it's like when I marathoned every board movie Together you get to see all the things that are exactly the same. They're all the same movie. Yeah, they're exactly the same Yeah, all all three of them so

re1 Is really primitive but still good re2s classic re3 better than I remembered It's actually much better than I remembered. I should have given that game more appreciate appreciation back in the day And then you hit cvx Which was like, hey man, it's on the dreamcast. It's gonna be 3d. You're gonna be able to move the camera Well, this is the ugliest Mainline resident evil game You go from the pre-rendered backgrounds and remake on one side and three on the other

Which are it's concur. It's releases to a fully rotated to a fully rotated 3d camera and that's not the problem Well, it's not fully but the camera pans The problem is that as a result the color palette and like Look of every area. It's all really sparse 3d The game is so dark It's so Fucking dark if you pulled up People were pointing out that the the archive that I put up of cvx on on my youtube channel

Is bordering on unwatchable Because youtube compression combined with the the game's color palette and the fact that there's low detailing environments Makes many scenes Completely unwatchable like you can't actually tell what's happening. I remember looking at the back of the box Uh, when I was going through dreamcast games on uh back at micro play and I remember the screenshot specifically on the back of that game was uh Jill standing in a graveyard that'd be clair, but whatever excuse me doesn't matter doesn't matter and uh

Standing in a graveyard and I remember the camera was lower and third person And I remember thinking like oh wow like those games usually looked really good bright and colorful and Defined so I imagine if they've created 3d full worlds that you can now walk around and rotate the camera and it must look incredible I just pulled up my stream. Here's a random screenshot Yeah, that's just gray. It's just gray. Yeah Yeah That'll be fair. You saw the the um the filter removed from like five. Yeah, I actually don't like that It's it makes it look more generic. It makes it look nice and it's not supposed to look

It's not supposed to look nice, right? It makes it look a little more generic, but the colors shine through a bit better Oh, absolutely. Um But when they put that filter on it's like now you're watching a gritty Colombian drug movie. Yeah, you're watching traffic. Yeah, it's very different in tone Um cvx also has like massive massive massive flaws That don't really pop. You know when you're like damn that thing sucked, but I just can't I just can't put my finger on it, right?

It's got so many the weapon choice sucks Chris has nothing to do the story makes no sense Because at the beginning Claire is like, hey, I have to find my brother. I'm going to umbrella to find my brother I'm gonna track down my brother. I gotta find my brother and then When you get captured she's like, I'll send an email to leon and he'll email my brother and tell him to be here I'm like, wait, what? I thought you couldn't find chris You just shot an email to leon. Why'd you why'd you need to?

Steve as a character, I'm sure you stay wait aren't they all full of stupid shit like oh, yeah, they are but this one's the worst Steve as a character is the worst resident evil character ever literally character who is an animated And father like x4 level voice acting the worst On top of that. He's the only overtly Canadian Resident Evil character, which I didn't realize until I played through it again because he goes. I'm sorry Claire

He's a creep wait. Is he actually Canadian? It's not listed in the bio, but like you could hear it in his voice. Okay He's a fucking creepo who's put up as the love interest But he's doing all that anime 90s creepo shit where he tries to kiss claire when she's asleep and shit like that He's he's a bitch and he's he's your main hero character He gets he gets cool hero moments and claire's like oh man I love him and you're like what? Why like he feels like a kirito self-insert

Like he's the pathetic claire fanboy That wanted to pretend He's terrible The game makes you go through one area and then a second and then the second the first area Kyle madigan Kyle madigan Times a thousand in awful mess because of his horrible voice acting go look it up yourself. Okay. It's he's the worst Okay

But yeah, that's the the archetype the the layout of the areas is boring So resident evil mansions and areas they typically work in like a like a house structure, right? You know you go from the east side of the west side of the mansion you crisscross sure cdx has for its main areas it has like For example, it has the the the the the prison then the military facility then the the mansion then the the house But they're all in straight lines Like it's one straight line and then you go to the right to go to the training facility Then you go back on the highway and then go to the north to and so when you're backtracking between the three four areas You have to go through that highway

every time Every single time so the backtracking feels a hundred times worse because you never have the choice of Had cleared enemies out on this room where I cleared enemies out on this path I'll use that path now because it's safe my memory of r e4 is it being a straight line? Yeah, r e4 is a straight line But r e4 is not like the old structure Okay, right because r e4 doesn't have backtracking really okay the old ones always have backtracking But it was fine because you would pick your path and decide who you would kill in what areas and explore the rooms this straight line with

branches, okay And you go well shit Oh, I better clear out these these straight paths because i'm gonna have to go down them four five six times And the game goes Well, we knew you were gonna do that so we're going to constantly Retrigger enemies to spawn in there And as somebody who's played the game before and knows that it creates a situation of Don't bother to kill any enemies in the most traversed areas in the game

Because the next time you come back they will be alive again. It's not a permanent you can't no and in fact, there's one really bizarre thing where you get to the entrance of a house And the first time you show up there. There's two shitty monsters just walking around. They're just there And then if you kill them they'll be back the next time But when you come back the next time the room is empty And then you get a new camera angle which shows them climbing up the wall To respawn and you're like

Shouldn't that have been the first shouldn't that have played the first time? The game feels like all over just little little things like that most sparse No, you're drowning in it. Okay, and the knife is incredible. Okay, but just like the story The the best part is alexia and alfred the crazy twins that are like fucking european Horror movie villains. They're fucking so stupid. But yeah, the game is trash The game is fucking trash top to bottom and you can really feel it playing reasonable three and Remake right after that game was supposed to be re3

I was going to say like what is the point of it not being a numbered game? Originally because it's the one that pushed the story forward and re2 was a sorry re3 was going to be called re1.9 Because it takes place but in raccoon city, right? That's how it was going to be now ostensibly I've heard very I've heard like three variations of this either sony wanted it or the internal development We're like, oh, well, what if we do make reasonable three Or sorry, what if we make re1.9 re3?

So then the trilogy of raccoon city will be on the playstation and then we can It doesn't feel that way it feels like shinji makami who is overlooking all five games in development at one time went Fucking changed the number because Because this one sucks ass and am I Correct and x is an updated x is the ps2 version that came out later It has like two extra wesker scenes and some extra costumes. Okay. Yeah

But there's all these little things like there's no turning animation in cvx your character turn tables when you turn The zombie groans Are just reused from re2. They're not new It's it's terrible like it's it's so bad Top to butt it's crazy and going through and getting to play remake And not only is remaking one of the best games ever made, but it's the best remake In my re1 stream

When you come back from the guardhouse, they have the hunters the green gorilla enemies that slash you. Yeah I died four times no three times in one hallway trying to get back to a save point Bam bam bam bam died it was really frustrating the stream was a riot because I kept fucking it up and then the game crashed It was terrible, right plain remake Died in the same fucking exact hallway in the exact same way Trying to do the exact same thing And it's like this is the best remake because even with all these things changed and the enemy behavior changed and items rearranged

I'm still making the same exact fucking mistakes that game is incredible re0 is not Uh, but yeah play remake don't play cvx never play cvx cvx is the only mainline Like modern reasonable game that's in 3d that has not gotten a port to pc And that's fine That's fine. I played it now. I'm done I tried but it moves the story forward RE4

Annihilates it from canon You remember the beginning of re4 where they talk about like the u.s. government initiated a Stopped the business and then umbrellas shares tumbled. Yeah, that is so bizarre because it goes and it's like That would have been right after the nuke, right So how does a cvx take place three months later with the active umbrella? Oh, whatever just shut up. Just don't worry about it Okay Like That that game got annihilated from people caring

Like uh bad bad game bad game Uh, let's see what else I do. I tried to play temtem Yesterday, yeah Temtem was on fucking fire yesterday. What happened? It's a mmo launch Oh, it launched yesterday. Yeah, wait But i've been hearing about it for weeks. Yeah, because people have been excited They haven't been playing it. Some people got into the stress test. Okay

Definitely knew some people were playing it somehow. So yeah, that makes sense. Okay, uh launch yesterday servers dead bugs Etc. They got it to a stable state last night, but that stable state last night was like at three in the morning so Haven't played temtem people seem to enjoy the temtem pokemon online pokemon online, but with temtem. It's cards not pokeballs But they're monsters. Yeah, they're monsters Coming out of cards coming out of cards I mean you seal them in the card. That's they're ten woolly They're not pokemon. They're temtem. Are they digital monsters? Some are there's a digital type

Are you sealing them in the card via digital? I don't know dude. I didn't play it. Okay Is it is it magic being used to put them in the it appears to be technology? Okay. I'm going to assume it's technology This is this is the question. I think the starter types are like um mental Crystal and I forget what the it looks like it looks like a fire type. Okay, but uh, yeah, it looks cool people people seem really excited I'll be checking that out. I'm interested in temtem. I'll be checking that out either

Depending on the server shenanigans and how I feel tonight because I usually don't want to stream after the podcast Either tonight or tomorrow Some people did persevere through And get to play it and I have heard universally positive Praise trailer looks great except for two things one. Yeah, it's still on fire And two man those designs just aren't as good as pokemon but It's it's goofy because like some of them are going to get there the

No, the overall art style just isn't as as as Isn't as enjoyable as pokemon but on the flip side Every single one of the temtem is like lovingly lavishly Animated with all of their attacks and all of their movement and so it's like even though The actual design of the temtem doesn't look as good It's realization in game is a thousand times nicer than anything pokemon ever did got it. Okay, so it's I'd say it's a it's a

It's a it equals out I mean like pokemon To me at least still look their strongest as a 2d piece of art. I would agree and Clems did a video on it never look they never look as powerful or not been powerful. They never look as like When I say strong, I don't mean like physically strong. I mean strong in terms of design and Implementation. Clems did a whole video on that translation

Doesn't work in which the he he blamed the switch to 3d on the animation because like pokemon stadium Those those things actually look great. Hmm because they animate and they did like, you know, you got two bones doing drop kicks Yeah, yeah, totally, but in the modern pokemon they look really flat They look really really flat. Yeah, they look you they look perfectly symmetrical in uniform They don't really animate. They don't really have a lot of life. So they kind of look like amoebos also, um I much prefer the uh

The red and green art style. Mm of like, you know fat Pikachu and shit Pikachu to the anime Version that like everything sort of became. Yeah, I I really do I think there's a clear difference there and I like the original art a lot better And I wish it kind of like stuck more to that but Uh pokemon has been dropping the ball for a while this this this indie game is indie as shit It's so indie that I've been following the play temtem account and it's hilarious because they were super transparent They're like, all right, the last hotfix. It's fucked up Rolling it back. All right. We're thinking we're gonna get a new build out in about half an hour

But we gotta get we gotta get tacos Okay, because we're hungry. Okay, and everyone's like you enjoy your tacos And you know, like it's it's just very like That that twitter account updated like a hundred times yesterday on the status of every hotfix every bug every build And it's like, oh, that'd be really nice Instead of when destiny goes down or file fancy goes down or anything blizzard goes down you get We're encountering some issues. Please check back within six seven. You know that fucking crap

So so tecantepin and temtem. Yeah, that's fun, isn't it? We're looking forward to temtem Uh and last But not least is a thing that I am struggling to remember Oh, yeah I don't know how to even talk about this So I'll just start from the beginning and try and explain it This is the destiny thing so set your expectations accordingly, will you?

But it is it's more about Advertising than anything So destiny they do the free-to-play thing they have A season pass that you buy for ten bucks and they advertise certain things on it They go this weapon this weapon this one weapon this activity this activity will be available to people who own this And they will unlock or become available at this date in this state in this state in this state And so, you know One seven january seventh rolls around and here's the quest for this handgun. Whatever right? Yeah

There was a new quest that showed up out of nowhere unannounced last week In an area called the corridors of time. It's just a fancy way to to describe a Infinite dungeon with random rooms that you walk in and there's six exits It's a hexagon and then you walk through go through a quarter and then there's another hexagon with six exits And then each one has a little symbol child associations, right? And it became discovered very quickly that it's actually not random at all You're just everyone's starting in a random location. It is actually a giant superstructure. Okay. It's you know, it's Stupid enormous. Okay. It's something like, you know, 48,000 rooms or some shit. Okay, like like in like the fucking stupid gigantic

I could you could pull up a map of it. Jesus. Okay. I'll call the you can look it up on your thing called the corridors of time map So 48,000 so no probably way way way way higher than that actually So it became okay and the quest is Reach the end of the corridors of time And people went I don't know what that means because if you went long enough You would hit a dead end where you would see a grave in the future But if you tried to reach the grave you couldn't

And then people were finding alternate paths that like oh if I got to this ending I would unlock a banner an emblem for my character or I would get a lore tab Open up. That's weird Right And so it became clear that there's actually a really complex path That you can take to reach the end But nobody knows what it is. So for the past week destiny players have been

Compiling data crowdsourcing interesting dozens of streams of people going like the charts the arg shit and just like like like, um What should we call it uh like Collective collectively trailblazing. Uh, what's it called? Uh, so That does a word. I know what's the what's the word for this? Uh, uh collective computing or whatever crowds crowdsourcing their crowdsourcing crowdsourcing. Yeah, right and so eventually You end up i'm gonna show willy the picture of the map for context With a map that looks like this

Whoa And in the map that is fucking huge. Yeah It took a lot of work by a lot of people, right? And so what ends up happening is you put all that together and you look and you discover. Hey, look At the bottom there's an entrance and at the top there's an exit and there is totally a path There's a like 30 room sequence. It's a maze that you can get through from any starting location. You can get there people post The uh the the sequence what they teleport you around

Yeah, each well basically it basically the way it works is you start and then you go like hexagon plus clover clover hexagon hexagon plus Etc and it's the same for lost woods and then you get to the end And there's a grave and it's your grave from the future And you're like what that's crazy because the whole season has been about time travel and saving people from death by time travel And they go oh man your favorite weapons here and on top There's a destiny one exotic sword that something that's never been In uh in destiny two and you're like what could it be? And people open it up and they unlock the quest for the season pass weapon two weeks early

And it's like oh it's bastion the video the the gun they've been showing in previews and Since it was finally discovered on monday The daily reset unlocked the quest for everyone two to three weeks early and now everyone can get it and The overall the overall like feeling is like Wow that was literally pointless And because it was a secret new quest

And all these things I think it is reasonable for people to have assumed That it would have been a surprise Right directed by peter molyneux What's in the cube a life changing A life changing event and it's just it's just like And there might be some kind of advertising law because they advertise the the season pass and say you get these items and whatnot, but like It

The every I feel really bad for the streamer the streamers were the ones who did most of the work because they were like They were online and they were compiling information people were sending in and there was a couple people on the side just doing math shit It's like wow you guys busted your ass for for over a week to get A quest unlock a couple weeks early And on top like it that is such it sucks, dude. That is Such a compelling and interesting piece of content to drop

Yeah, isn't it into your game destiny does do that every now and then they do these little ARG puzzles and they're like figure it out and something to unlock And for the and for the thing to be For the thing to be you'll unlock the quest that you were going to get in two weeks early Like no, it's it should have been a gun man or a sword or A ship that you a cosmetic that you couldn't get it like It could have been anything other than what it was

Like is there some sort of maybe I don't know is there like a Thing where like they're like they don't like they don't want to mess with the gun economy Like there's a really you know what I mean like is there any point where it's like just give them a really cool thing And then someone would go like no that might upset the There has been a really Obvious difficulty by the devs for about a year and a half now In that they put some really good shit into that game

Shit that was so good at ruining the game And then that should had to get nerfed then they put perks in the game. Uh-oh that shit's so good It had to get nerfed and they're in a place right now where your your thought is dead on and people can tell Where exotics come out and exotic guns you can only have one on your person You only have one piece of exotic armor on your person. You build your kit around it They're supposed to be weird. They do weird things They do a type of shot that nothing else can do they eat and they they burn shields like nothing else They fire like a bow that fires like three shots and lightning arcs every you know, they all do weird shit

Yeah, so they're supposed to be fucking cool and good And they are clearly very afraid of making them too cool or too good because in the past weapons of that nature can very easily become completely dominant and Completely overtake everything. Okay. There was a gun called sleeper simulant. Did you want to go in this game mode? Bring sleeper simulant or else you'll lose You know stuff like that question Did that grave have a cool sword on it? It did

Would that cool sword have been an interesting reward to give to people that cool sword looked like a sword from destiny one Which is unique and would have been a great reward for people and people were excited How about that how about that what's extra frustrating and this is just a dialogue thing This is not important But it is annoying This is a character from the future talking at your funeral saying that the gun he placed in your grave is your favorite gun And you get it and you're like this is not my favorite This gun's cool and it's all right, but this is not my favorite gun

Right and like that's that's a tiny little thing right like that doesn't matter But it's like When you hear that because you hear that you get the quest to unlock it So it's a couple hours before you actually get to use it and then you use it and you're like, oh this thing's gonna kick ass This thing's gonna fucking sure and it's okay. It's it's all right. It's fine. It has an issue I feel bad for like you're right you're like the the design

and like Production departments kind of coming together to make a big cool thing and then at some point they've got to run it through Checks and balances as a reward guy. You got to run it. You got to run it through a player experience rewards and and Economy and you're like we want to give them something really cool and they're like no no no no no no look at our Look at our our the roadmap the roadmap over here. Thank you. That's the word. I was looking for the roadmap says we cannot upset it with it we got it destiny is the weirdest game because Especially now that they've gone free to play

They have been really really overt about this and it's fascinating. I've never seen a dev talk about this with a live service game The way destiny develops Take some three months to make a piece of content and then they polish it for three months What this means is that your complaints will be heard Exactly six months from now. Okay, right? Yeah so When shadow key came out the season that they had associated with it was terrible Season of the on dying was terrible. There was almost no gear to get the activity was the same activity over and over and over

The at the end of the season the boss didn't even change really right the rewards were shit Well season the undying was built six months before that When gambit or whatever was the thing Season of the dawn much much better the activity and rewards associated with it are much better Why because they're copying the activity they made six months ago called menagerie, which was beloved So they at the time they were like well menagerie is really popular Let's make the season of the dawn thing six months from now a menagerie style activity

And it'll have these kinds of rewards and this kind of structure and this kind of thing So it gets half your turnarounds, right? So now The next season the one that'll be coming out in a month and a half Will be the one with the season of the undying feedback where everyone's like I fucking hate doing bounties I'm just chasing the the season pass battle pass level These rewards are terrible these exotics need to be buffed all that that will happen in about 90 days And so with destiny you always get to see It's always like man. It's really great right now. Hope they don't fuck it up in three months

And then it becomes well It's a little rough right now But that next thing's right around the corner and the moment that they announce it is the moment that people decide Whether or not the next three months of destiny are going to be shit or not It's so weird God bless because if not for you bringing this up. I kind of would have assumed it was dead It's it's still It's bumping it's definitely doing a lot better than warframe is right now

Um, it's just it's in a really weird place because their transition to free to play Has been really awkward it's really Really not the best so One of the biggest problems and you will definitely appreciate this Is bounties you have it used to get a character level on the way it worked as you you hit max level cap within a day And then you were max level for the whole thing and that was it right

You're max level for the year pretty much Now well you gain levels in the season pass Shit from one to a hundred and in a locks, you know cosmetic items unlocks a gun whatever right? Yeah, it's a battle pass Well battle pass is a hundred ranks. All right, so There used to be these things called bounties that were uh, you know You'd go to you go to nessa sir i o whatever one of the planets and the bounty would be like kill 10 guys with hand guns You know simple piss easy shit, right? So you'd go to i o and if you're on i o and you want a little extra xp to maybe level your character up or

Get a loot box at when you leveled up or whatever you pick that up Well now that character leveling is so important It turns out that one kill 10 guys with hand guns bounty from a random planet Is worth more experience than soloing a raid which takes hours Because bounties reward about a thousand times more experience than killing an enemy So then fuck everything. So what do you do? Fuck everything else you grind bounties And so the game has changed from play whatever you want do the activities you want chase what you want to

Log in Load up on bounties do all the bounties then do your second character etc That's unfortunate for example Well, I leveled from level 31 to 105 on the season pass in a couple days By spamming the christmas event bake cookies bounties and those are Bake a cookie deliver it to somebody in the hub And that was

Hundreds of times faster than literally anything I could do How are they still making these mistakes because they're new mistakes? They're always new mistakes, but like they've been at this for so long And that game has gone through multiple permutations of every business model The game started as buy it Then the game added a microtransaction store Then the game flirted with a subscription before backing out then the game went free to play Sorry, then the game took an annual pass, which was basically a subscription

for a year But I guess I'm just thinking then it went free to play like Like when you add a new thing and you want people to do it Then you need to give them an incentive by making the reward good Yeah, but when it's so good that it makes everything else pointless Then it just becomes the only thing you're going to do So it says a lot that's such a it says a lot about obvious outcome the way that because in the when they talk about Hey, we're going to free to play right and the first worry is hey

Is it going to take shit zillion years to grind the battle pass that we have to buy the battle pass at the end? And went no, no, no and they described Well, if you give a buff on yourself, right, you know for more xp And then you load up with a couple bounties for the strike, which is a dungeon, right? At the end after about an hour you'll gain like a level or two Right, and that was the developer thought that you were going to want to run a strike And load up on the bounties for the strike. What's a strike? It's it's essentially a dungeon. Okay Right, even though dungeon's a destiny or different thing, but for this argument

Let's say it's a dungeon a 20 minute run through an area sure with a unique boss theme um, and then People went, okay, I guess that's fair and then it's like well What you didn't say is the 95% of the xp came from the strike bounty and not the strike So why would you run strikes? Why would you not then just go to every planet and do the piss easy bounties? Right, and it's like the the develop the what the developers thought was gonna happen Did not mesh with the reality of how people play games where you gain levels People were hitting rank 100 within a day and a half by figuring out well

What's the most optimized fucking set of bounties I can do on all three characters and just go go go go go go go Right, and then you run into a different problem. Here's the problem. You hit rank 100 on that season pass battle pass thing That's it You're done. You're done. You're done Yeah, and then it's like well, okay. We'll all wait Till january 7th and they're gonna do the quest for the handgun Right quest for the handgun Is walk around a pvp map and look at things and then hear some dialogue it literally takes half an hour

like Okay, and they're like, oh wow In in the first week of february, there's gonna be the the the bastion quest for this big gun Oh, but now the corridors of time thing is happening. Wow It's just unlocked the thing from later now. Now. I have nothing like and you see how all this combines into just like a Seething frustration times for that launcher to go cold for another six months Basically, yeah, yeah, and then it's like I'm not so I played a bunch of destiny. I got the gun. I thought it was cool I am not going to turn that game on until february 4th

When they unlock the new boss fight Then I'm going to beat the boss fight once to get the achievement And then I will have completed the season. I you literally get a badge For completing the season and it gives you a special title And then I won't have to play the season again until it's done I might go in and try and get a better breach light which is a handgun But that's easy. That'll take me an hour sounds identical to an mmo. Yeah Except the one thing about destiny's like the whole life cycle is that it's really fun to play destiny

So as long as there's something to chase you're good They have totally inverted the way that that goes Instead of chasing things and getting things while you do it you now set specific goals according to bounties And chase those unless what you're chasing is cookie baking unless what you're chasing is cookie baking Which I maxed that thing out. It was miserable. You had to bake 300 gifts But the reward was good so it was fine The reward was a little snowmobile with snow coming off of it. Yeah

I Yeah, it's it is the most fascinating someone that was running around getting grabbed and groped by by fucking bts Okay, to to take me to your leader. Uh-huh, you know Yeah, there's that picture. There's a picture that someone had that was like, um, how kojima Expects you to react and it's just like, oh, dear god with the like whatever fucking The shining kind of shot of just like oh my god You're coming for me. Oh Jesus Christ. And like how you actually take me to your leader. Let's go. Come on. I need some

I need some chiral crystals. Let's do it. I'm gonna fuck it up. Um, and and I enjoying that process Uh That sounds miserable The destiny thing is is hilarious because it is it constantly flip-flops between being amazing and shit And it is doing that on a three to six month cycle Over and over and over and over and it's hilarious It is fascinating to see But is it costing you money?

Very little these seasons are 10 bucks every three months They're really cheap for subscription Okay, and I want the cosmetic and rewards out of them there I would say that though I would say that these seasons are totally worth their value But I think the problem is I would gladly pay three times as much as a subscription to get three times more If that makes any sense It I pay I pay a $15 a month subscription to final fantasy 14 and that game keeps content coming out on a really Fucking rock solid regular basis and there's they don't fuck it up and they never change it was just kind of a problem

Destiny is constantly this maybe and it's like Just charge a sub man um, so uh Little little idea light bulb here, but So the idea that a company like bungee can like make these mistakes is you know, like it had there's a lot of Uh takeaways from that one of them could just be that it's like it's that hard to balance

Something that is an always Living breathing. I was strange uncertain model I would like to point out that final fantasy 14 and warframe to other similar games that I play 14 hit that balance early and never deviate Ever which is a problem, right? And that was after their massive disaster game Yeah, warframe has had just as much disastrous

Fucking exact things with this. We now have a solid maybe 15 years of like The modern type of service game. Yeah To to draw experience from How are all of these companies not Learning from each of these mistakes. They are but they're different enough that the the mistakes are not broadly applicable It's hard

It's actually just really hard because like we can point to reasons why quality of life from like other versions of games don't pop into the ones that you'd like for example, but um A lot of the time People will very loudly let you know what those fuckups were. Oh, they did and Destinies were astonishing when you have a decade and a half of data

Here's here's one for you. How? And here's one of the problems is that hey, woolly Here's one that you you clearly will internalize Listening feedback is hard Some feedback you should listen to some feedback you shouldn't It's really tough to tell which is which and what'll make people happier Especially when some feedback is really loud and some feedback is not as loud. So for example Destiny 2 and its early life cycle and it was the dumbest thing they ever did. It had a problem

called People refer to it as the better devil's problem In destiny one you describe this the guy and I'll give a really quick one In destiny one guns dropped with random stats In destiny two they didn't because people Like me who barely played destiny one complained I hate grinding for a gun and the gun is that I get is the one I want but it's bad And so then you end up with a situation where you play pvp until the better devil's handgun drops and you go sick

It's the best handgun I'm done And that's that yeah and for a grinding game That's disastrous now on the on the community feedback side of things where you're talking about like, you know Some things should be and should not be listened to there is a job And someone who's good at it will parse that information for you. That's a community manager Right in addition to interacting with everything like here's the thing um

A company that is dropping the ball will hire a community manager to be An arrow from them going outward. Do you remember rob pardo? No, he was the guy who talked to you about oral of warcraft That dude was on those forums every day The kaplan of wow more. Okay. He wasn't he didn't get on video. Okay. It's just like hey pardo posted something okay, right so That that when when a ball's being dropped the that's what the company will will will do When warframe has rebecca ford for example. Yeah, and and megan as well. Mm-hmm

um, I think he has keiser wave and arxist has abuster when You're doing it right That will that person is a two-way arrow. Yeah that is bringing information from the community to the dev team and Relaying messages from the dev team back to the community. Uh, and they are acting as that Facilitator capcom has uh yuri arjo and uh matt walker matt does it as well. Yeah, right? It's like i'll go. Hey yuri. This thing's fucked up. Can you tell the devs? He's like they know. Yeah What's upon a time?

What's upon a time like like it's like what's the point of what is the community manager? This is a new position. What is this right and suddenly? Modern problem problem problems require modern solutions And when when games are online and there are a lot of people that are like letting you know about their unique experiences going wrong There needs to be someone to process that data and like um, if your community manager is basically being like Told that whatever information if your community manager

If you're not asking your community manager to go out and get you yeah the information that's Why are people mad and bring it back? Why are they actually mad though? Right then you're fucking up. Yeah, you're not using that which the community manager for destiny appears to be their lead director Luke Smith. Yeah, if you have a community manager make sure you're using them to Give you the feel of what's happening. What I mean is is Luke Smith is the lead He's the director and he writes this week at bungee And he seems to be the one with the pulse and it's like I don't think you have time To do that when you're also directing the game

That seems like a lot. Yeah. No, it's a full-time job Yeah, so to manage all of that and and it seems to all fall on this one guy and then it kind of sucks so um Yeah, so it like with that in place I mean not to just oh, he doesn't write that. Oh my bad. I thought not to fully divert the uh, you know but like the the nature of that question is like If you have someone giving you that information then what like why would

A lot of moving parts 15 years So I'll give you an update in 90 days in six podcasts So a podcast whatever and I will come on and be like they've announced what they're gonna change And it's like It's funny because that that game is is back and forth all the time when the game came out Exotics were weak and people were like, what is the point of these? Then later exotics all across the board got hugely buffed And everyone was happy

And then a new exotic came out called lunafaction boots Which ruined the game for like six months because if you didn't have it Get out of the group Fuck off Right, then they nerfed it and now exotics are weak again And it's like fuck. Yeah, there's definitely there's definitely like Thing times when it's like, yeah, you can't listen to that but But when it's I guess loud and an overwhelming clear thing

At the very least you can break down the core of like What if if if the thing that they're asking for is like A nonsensical thing the core of what's making people upset you should at least dissect that are people I think that the reward for legendary sundial sucks ass Okay What is the core of this? I don't feel like I'm being rewarded for my time for doing a hard piece of content that I couldn't match make for

Ah That's actionable, right? Yeah And some of these are really easy. Will you like say? Because when you hit level 100 Every three levels after that you get a loot box cosmetics and shaders and shit and that's fine but what if If you did legend the thing I just mentioned legendary sundial you do it once because you can't you can't matchmake

You have to form a party of six people for real that takes time That took me longer than it did to do the event, right? What did I get out of it shit all? Right, you know, it'd be nice if you did that you gained a level right off bam What if you did an old raid you gained five levels bam? Okay, fine do it just just turn the knob you know Working people catch more of these misadventures they can catch more of these misadventures

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What's happening with video games and movies and shit? Look, we talked about, um Belief already Belief Not knowing how to say bio this name is fucking great. Say belief is Uh I so we can move on with that What we can't talk about is the domino. Oh man I've never been so happy to see everything get delayed the domino that ticked after last week's story

uh, so last week we told you about the final fantasy seven remake And uh, then lamented about how sad that made the month of march because cyberpunk and uh, it was april April, it was april that within two week period. It was a resident evil three then remake and then cyberpunk. Bam. Bam. Bam. Well Apropos of nothing. I swear to god nothing. Yeah Due to its own reasons Cyberpunk 2077 has been delayed to september 2020 that's crazy Like mere moments after final fantasy Had walked in to the bar

Hey, also, did you see dying light got delayed indefinitely? Whoa, I didn't That's crazy. Yeah, why why? I have a sneaking suspicion which I uttered earlier and now Little birdies are reporting that it's because these games are being delayed so they can launch on next gen systems Oh, we're in that phase. We're in the phase of um Hedger bets. Yeah, guess what everyone ps5 is coming out in september You know what thumbs up

Yes, so here's the thing about that end of gen delay to the next gen Is A gamble that pays off. Yeah every time every single time. Yeah, it's smart turts who do why would you not do that? If the time frame from if you're looking at so here's the problem, right? If you're looking at like your release candidate build um Almost a year in advance What do you do? Do you spend another year paying? Uh

And adding to that project so that you can build more for it. Do you start? You know what I mean or uh, is the process of Uh developing and porting over to the next gen gonna need as much time as it can get ding ding ding ding ding It doesn't To make sure you're one dealing with the new hardware properly to dealing with your new compliance um requirements and everything but

launch Always Yeah, and cyberpunk gets the the best of all worlds and that they get out of a shockingly crowded april For for no reason, right? Everybody wants to build up Everyone wants to play their new system. Yeah, so they want to play your game whatever it is And if your game's good so much the better if it happens to be good That's great. If your game is not good, but it's on the new system. They might play anyway. They might still buy it So I bought killzone shadowfall

You did I did there you go proof right there It's a good idea. Yeah, it's a good idea. So Uh with that CD Projekt red says September 17th is what's going on I'm Diving through the window like scott pilgrim. Yeah As soon as ff7 shows up at the door Then already three goes to answer the door goes. Yes, cyberpunks. What?

Uh, not uh, not here There they go, um And of course it comes with you know death crunch it comes with an announcement uh from the uh from uh marseille and adam Marson whatever however you pronounce it the the the people running up Yeah, CD Projekt saying that they you know quality and playable and so on and so forth, but you know now Uh, it's been reported that these devs are going to be crunching hard until september which is long But I would also like to actually expand. This is not technically crunch

This is what's known as death march Death march is when you're on crunch and then the game gets pushed back And then you still keep crunching In which the the end of the crunch is not even for sure That sucks this is very not good You burn people out. Yeah You've seen the I've mentioned it before you crush spirits and you fucking almost certainly

Push at somewhere at some point push someone to the point of something illegal Oh, surely But is it illegal in poland? Right so like every everything about that Uh, uh fucking dev is always always crazy. I'm trying to find a screenshot There's this screenshot of the the director of which are one two and three in interviews around the game And for one he looks like a normal person

And for two he looks really tired and for three he looks like a crazed wizard And you can see him just melting as these games get bigger Yeah And seeing crunch works. Well, that's not just because it works Does it mean slavery built the pyramids too? Is that what we're going to go back to? Hey pat, you want to let everybody know what the most effective way of training people's aim is? If you have a bunch of people and you want them to get really good at hitting a target when they pick up a gun and shoot Maybe if you withheld food. Oh, yes. Yes torture them. Yes

Possibly made it so that your ability to hit a target resulted in Some food just because the number one Effective way to do something doesn't make it the best way to do something You don't remember that one. I don't yeah, that was when you told me back in the day about I'm sure I did that does sound like something I would have done more time shit Um, here's your gun. Go hit it. You hit the bullseye. You get your food Hey, put the gunpowder in the food with the kids The child soldiers fight hungry

Fight hard fight hungry. Yeah You know Sure crunch works Crunch scars. No crunch who? A lot of things a lot of things work. Yeah that we shouldn't be celebrating. Yeah If you punched your kid in the face when they stole a cookie, I bet they're not going to steal cookies anymore But you probably shouldn't be punching your kids in the face. You know what? I'm gonna go radical You shouldn't punch your kids in the face

It's a bad thing to do But what if you don't want that cookie stolen? Well, I don't know. I don't know what you're supposed to do There don't appear to be other solutions You're just gonna have to live with that stolen cookie If Stories come out About this death march Being a death march. Yeah

That is not going to be good for cyberpunk 2077 But it's all but I mean that was the case with the other witcher games and it's extra Complicated because the reason why those games are so expensive but cost so little Is because it's in poland where wages are different. Yeah Workers rights are different. But like The one silver lining is now people are more aware of and thus attentive to Devs not getting crunched. Yeah, but I mean in the video game industry the moral outrage never changes sales

ever I can't think of any ever situations We'll see what happens when Overwatch 2 comes out we will There was just another piece of cyberpunk news that even then I mean Overwatch 2 is probably going to be shit. So I mean that went hand in hand with that You know, it's interesting. It affects the movie industry but

The movie industry Has faster turnarounds much faster. So like And then it's gone faster as well. Yeah So it's it's flames last flash in the pan, you know It stretched out my legs. They last because they cost you more money. Yeah, they do Uh, the second piece of information was that the multiplayer as a result Which was about supposed to be a year later is now looking at 2020 earliest 2022 2022 is the earliest

Okay So all right, that's That's a totally different game at this point. Yeah, basically. I mean like they they said that excuse me They said that they were going to be doing a bunch of single player extra shit that uh, they do that Yeah, you know half that would be coming out but like separate from that would be a multiplayer mode And it was supposed to be a year later. Well, now it's I can't wait for the game to be finished in 2077 He said it I said the thing

all right Yep, everybody's running from everyone and they're gonna keep who's gonna be the person that delays their game To the winter and then delays it again because winter gets too full but Here's the thing no one because new consoles When you jump on that investor's call And they go why are you and they're like have It's final fantasy fucking seven and then they go what it I don't what is that Listen, it's the biggest game that ever was I'll do respect

Shut the fuck up. No, you don't get to do that Okay, well Google it And then tell me if you think we should drop it Right here right now on the state Google the video, but I want my returns on this quarter Google the video of like the easy allies guys like melting in their chairs and having full scale mental breakdowns Over its announcement years ago and tell me that you want to compete with that kind of insanity

Just Like come on um here Shall we type ff7 into google and see how many results we're looking at there are probably a couple results 42,400,000 That's okay So who remembers kingpin Like

I remember the fleetingest memory the fleetingest kingpin was a pc game. I played back in the day and uh I remember kingpin because one It was dark and gritty and had big swearing in it and there was a poop in a toilet Um, and you were on the streets. So there was all kinds of drug dealers and pimps up and all that's crazy, man but also Pimp um, but also, uh kingpin was

A game that supported a pretty high resolution output at the time And it was like a test of like, yo, you got a new video card. You want to check cool shit out run kingpin Uh-huh, and I remember at my friend's place. We would use it to benchmark shit Um, they're releasing kingpin reloaded I have no idea why why all this noise about kingpin suddenly now Somebody got the rights to it. I guess and we're like, yeah, let's do it 3d realms Oh, so uh, they're dropping it and it's gonna be 4k 60

Uh, better be it's gonna. It's a pc game from like 97. It's ultra wide and so on and so forth uh, it's It's so weird to see this game pop up It's got artwork associated with it that I don't remember being this cool back then I ate they might have tuned it up It was pretty forgettable all in all But at the time though

That edge That edge was rare Still appreciate a good edge now and then yeah It's 1999 99. Yeah That game came out a year after half-life I mean, yeah, that that like gasp laugh up is correct I mean, you know, we were starting to get we were starting to get um Games that had like extended dialogue. Is this your new lp?

No, okay We will I tried I tried we will not be playing kingpin. That's that's quite all right Um Trying to grow the channel you see. Ah, it's something else Well, anyway, um aside from that There was also an announcement for a game But I think I just didn't pay enough attention because I didn't catch the second part of this But have you heard about code shifter?

No code shifter is a trailer I watched Developed by arc system works where you play as oh wait, maybe I did maybe I did you play as the the insurance girl Basically, I did see a trailer for this remember insurance girl. No from Progressive was it? I forget insurance insurance I oh faith's friend from Mira's edge. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, right So you look it looks like that it looks like the like like like 16

You know 16 that that that um that that cartoon No, okay. Well, it was on teletune and I think it aired on this is this is going great Whatever look at look at the picture of I saw it. I looked it up on my phone there. It's that I seen it Okay, so take your totally spies and your kim possible Yeah, and your Ben 10 and your Ben 10. It really is 16. Yeah, it's it's that's fine If you know 16, that's okay. It's on point with 16 Okay, and she's running around and she's turning into tons of characters from various games That arc system works have had involvement with such as soul bad guy

She just turns into pixel soul bad guy turns into pixel coonio uh pixel um, um jinn kisaragi or uh, yeah the fucking River City girls there is potemkin That's weird elfelt jubey abobo Eno, that's weird. Yeah And you can call them in as strikers too and they do stuff Um, there's a bunch of dragon double dragon characters in there. There's blaze blue characters. There's guilty gear characters. There's um

characters from The fuck is that river city? No, I mean, I'm not I can't see what you're looking at. It was a giant sumo There's a bunch of shit in there a bunch of crazy. That's weird, right? But at the end of the trailer Because they're doing all these little sprites, right and they're almost like um coonio Style sprites for every character as the basis like you know how like capcom does like mega man style sprites Right for like a bunch of characters that are not whatever. So that that's kind of what they're doing here with that coonioism

but At the end of the trailer and this part. I guess I just didn't pay attention to because I kind of clicked through sought and went Okay, cool This game Who cares about that part? There's a fucking versus mode at the end where you play as all of those guest characters Oh, cool player. Oh cool arc system smash bros arc system eight-bit smash Damn nailed it character list includes soul bad guy Keep kai kiske, uh dizzy

Elfelt foust rivals of arc system works Aether yeah, so About seven or eight characters from guilty gear seven or eight characters from blaze blue um coonio double dragon River city girls Uh, that's good and more than I don't know. Oh This is tangentially related. Did you hear they changed the ending to river city girls? Yes

Isn't that crazy an update happened that changed it which means I gotta go I gotta go check out what that was It's better. Yeah, I like it a little better. Okay um I kind of wanted to just play through and get it, but I don't know if I'll get the time So I might just go watch it. Let's go watch it. I'll just go watch it. It's like 90 seconds. Yeah So code shifter Arc system match bros but also

16 quest this I have a news story that you probably didn't catch. It's not a big one. We can quickly run through it But uh, the last of us just put up a bunch of Last of us two like, uh, you know the page on their website for asking for people to come work on the game Yep, uh listed. Uh must have nvidia directx 12 and pc experience For the game, okay, and what if the dev kit is just there there have also been uh, Flutterings about other

Sony back projects. Yeah, it looks like maybe the ps5 is just a computer. It looks like that Sony games or Sony second-party games or whatever are going to start coming off that platform and onto the pc Or some shit. Well, if a next-gen platform is about to drop horizon Horizons coming to pc is coming to pc if if we're about to move off of the ps4. Yeah Like Why not you why not just do it everything's everything now The one console future Is inverting to become the no console future

Which is becoming the all console future. Well, if everyone looks at pc and goes that's not a threat. It's not the same audience Then we kind of get there anyway, don't we? Yeah But also you get there late Possibly badly ported. Yeah iceborns is some fun with fucking goofy shenanigans. Yeah, but also mods. Yeah Mods are good Who doesn't like mods? So the master race will actually be the inferior. They will integrate Assimilate. No, the master race will actually turn out to be the the inferior weaker late

Race that will be unable to like it'll be calcium deficient But It will have everything what are we talking about? I'm saying the pc master race. Okay, just checking It's like you thought They were the pc master race thought they were superior at all Yeah, and then it's going to turn out that like yes, you do have everything But you're getting it late Sometimes busted

Well, here's the thing though and maybe wearing a clown hat. Here's the thing though if The ps5 is literally just a pc and the xbox that the scarlet looks to be literally just a pc right There's no reason for these games to come out late or fucked up at all No, there's no reason but but they will still see it right. Oh, I hate it. I hate it. There's no reason. Oh, it sucks But it'll happen. Oh, this sucks ass. Oh

bummer I mean, you'll get your 4k 60 eventually But i'm gonna get it until then Your patience is required as we acquire funds Yes, and acquire somebody who knows how to make this in video card work Yeah, that's the hard part. Yeah The most popular video card in the world

But it's nice. It's nice that everyone sees pc as a friend. Yeah Thanks pc And I think as well um people that just kind of Because for a while it was like hey pc people just you're not you want to play this game You got to buy the system too bad and now it's like just waiting a little bit. Yeah Yeah, wait a little bit. So holding out actually was you know, I got it. I got it But it's still gonna make it difficult for me to decide what platform to play certain games on when I announce I'm gonna play them. Yeah, well

Recording ease is my number one concern at this point as it should Ninja theory has announced their new project Experimental title project mara. Okay. Uh, they dropped the dick demon. They dropped a little teaser for it You know what it might be about the dick demon But to be fair, there's also a gross mara from indivisible. Yeah, who is a like fat guy with huge nipples And like he's really gross those nipples are dicks and um he kind of reincarnates as like a fucking Slime

Dick demon I kind of prefer the dick demon. Yeah It's just so wholesome because it's like a screaming green penis on a chariot I mean it's gonna lick you like Let's say you were to Google indivisible mara You be careful You be careful what you're googling you'd see uh You

See Like This guy Okay, I'm I'm doing it myself. Oh, oh, yeah Hmm big old nasty several thousand years old Big old nasty nasty Some old nipples. Yeah, don't like that. All right. Enjoy that. Enjoy that everybody. Oh, they're really big What's up with that? Why are they so pronounced because he's gross. All right

Fuck go back Uh-oh my monitor just fucked up. Hold on a second. Good job The nipples destroyed your monitor. They were too powerful Too powerful All All right, so as I was saying project mara Any details about what the fuck it is? Uh, there's a small trailer. Um, it uh, it's a little teaser and it appears to just show Uh, kind of horror

Vibey Like a hallway And then a close-up on some text Um And then actually no wait, that's live action There's a brain scan mental constructs distracting herself and then there's a shot of a cg face breathing

In terror and then like looking behind her to see a reflection of something all messed up. Okay. Cool horror game so it might uh, yeah, and and you know what seeing as Uh, there were like aspects to send it with sacrifice that like Could have gone horror. Yeah, I could I could see that working out. I could see that working out um I will await it with bated breath I liked I liked I liked held blade. I think yeah from what I played a held blade. It was really cool. Yep. So good on good on them

Nice step up We also got uh real quick a couple other quick announcements. Um A new captain subasa game out of fucking nowhere. What? Why? because Because shallon soccer never got a fucking game. All right, but captain subasa The longest running god damn it. It won't end anime slash manga series About a soccer kid. You kick some soccer and there's birds and animals. Yep So now we're getting in the game and the game guess what it's a crazy ass soccer game

And you kick the ball and it glows and turns into fire and then there's teleporting All right, I'll take a look at this like dudes are sliding and doing. Yeah big old phoenix kicks And it's wild. It's anime as fuck. Oh, take a look at this big tiger ball burning tiger kick ball Like it is It is shallon soccer right Oh, wow that looks incredible, but then again shallon soccer is just captain subasa. Let's be real It's just i've never actually seen captain subasa and yeah, that looks incredible. Yeah, it looks nuts. It's hyper crazy anime soccer

Hey, look, I might play that even though it's soccer. Enjoy your anime soccer Um, we could get that prince of tennis game. We deserve destroy the dinosaurs and shit. Well, we'll see how this performs We'll see how everyone feels about football that prince of tennis shot That's the tennis shot that killed the dinosaurs. Yeah is my favorite anime ever Moment ever for a manga that's been running For this long that has so much clout

It's kind of amazing How little play it gets. Yeah, you're right. You're totally right It is weird in general I can't think of any other captain subasa games I'm sure surely there are untranslated ones by the dozens or whatever by the dozens but I have I have not heard of any in at least decades

plural anime's time to shine with soccer You know, um, it's crazy. Let's get all the sports anime's turned into games We could get some fucking good ass arcade fucking sports games again There's an ice shield 21 game. That was not what I hoped it would be. All right. Well, I mean, yeah Could have been cool. What about uh, what's the basketball one? Um, there's many there's real there slam dunk slam dunk That's the one I'm thinking of there's a couple places you can go with that That's the one I was thinking of well, you know, there's others because it's the one punch man. What about, um Um

Prince of stride one. Yeah, what about free when we're gonna get that free swimming game? That's money It's a lot of money in that free swimming game Hey, they figured out water back on, um, you know, wave race. Yeah, but you got to get the glisten just right It's not about the water. It's about the glisten. It's about how the water lands on the surfaces. That's right. Yeah, all the surfaces. Yeah That's true. That's true Uh, yeah, man, that's where we're at. Epos had many games. You don't have to they're not good Tied many and they tried They'll tried many variations and it's not no they'll they'll maybe one day

Boo sad There no, what are you thinking? What's going in your brain? There's that anime one where it's the little girls playing basketball She got into dengueki bunko fighting climax though Anyway, oh Yeah, god My only point of reference is playing dengueki bunko fighting climax twice And there being a little girl that was a basketball girl. Mm-hmm. And that's it That was a she was from a basketball game. How is there no

Big like baseball thing that is not a game on this budget level. You know, I don't know Because baseball people like playing baseball People also love apparently to cheat while playing baseball, which is really funny You see the current baseball scandal everybody's cheating and stealing signs Uh stealing signs. Yeah, what's that? Okay, so it's really funny Because otherwise I would never pay attention to a sports story ever. Yeah, except the actual scandal mirrors the plot of yakuza 5 So explicitly I heard that it is astonishing

I heard one funny story about this, but I don't know the deal with it But what is stealing a sign stealing a sign is really simple. You steal the catcher's sign or the pitcher's sign as to what pitch is coming They're stealers in you know what they mean. Yeah stealing signs is Uh All pitchers and catchers have their secret language. Yeah that they talked to each other in yeah You set up a video camera and you watch them Blah blah blah whatever. Oh, and then you just then you disseminate it to your team. Oh, that's illegal. That's super legal It's also interesting. I thought if someone had really good memory

They could have just paid attention to that so that it would be on the catcher to switch it up constantly Yeah, except think about where people are actually standing in a baseball Yeah, like circle how far away they are. Yeah Right, you would not be able to catch that in a game in one game or even many games Unless you were laser focused. Yeah, and like they do the little things like tug the hat or Or like one two three and you're especially not supposed to wear wires that buzz you To tell you what pitch is coming So that's why

Okay, so because the part of the story I heard and now you've just connected the dots I heard the part of the story where there was some guy that did something amazing And he hit a ball and it went really good And then after everyone was celebrating and then they came up to him and he was like, don't touch me. Don't touch me And then he went into the locker room. Yeah, and then he came back out and celebrated and everyone was like the fuck And then later on they're like, dude, what the fuck was that and he's like, oh, yeah You know because they're because they're gonna pull his shirt off or something When they were like ruffling him up and uh, he's like, no, you know, like my my wife hates it when my shirt comes off

You know, yeah, it was I was embarrassed. I don't know but like in the moment. He was like, don't touch me. Yeah Full-on Norman Reedus and it's like the team that got caught is like, dude There's so many other teams doing this this team's doing it this team's doing it And now you got sports fans going through photos of people at games and be like, wow There are shit zillion players with really suspicious wrinkles on one of their shoulders Where you would put I don't know a wire And you just buzz a rhythm to you buzz the whole team to know what's like morse or something that's like fastballs coming Wow

I guess But you see it's so weird to me because like, okay now that I know that that's the the the Established system. I know that that's bullshit. Yeah, so when you started it's like well a good player'd be able to read the signs If you've watched a lot of match videos and you're right, but this is obviously cheating Yeah, because you're going to this crazy level of like, yeah, that's that's terrible now. I guess what I'm wondering is Can't you just like improve the secrecy of the call? I don't know man Should they not be allowed to secretly communicate then well No, they shouldn't because

It's like the rules are written in a vacuum or it's like no, you shouldn't be able to do that and other people shouldn't do this either Okay, well when it becomes all well people aren't doing well. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on because now we have a slippery slope Yeah, what is the history of the catcher signaling the pitcher? They do it and then when did that start did that start that's the genesis of baseball That's the rule hide the pitch. Okay, make it tell the catcher what pitch is coming. Yeah, so the catcher can fucking catch it Okay, now why? uh And they do change their signs

Wait, doesn't the catcher do the symbol and then the pitcher accepts it's a it a I've always seen the catcher crouch doing the finger thing. Yeah, and then the pitcher goes no no Yes, I believe I dude at this point. I'm not sure but I know that it is a back and forth It is a cumulative thing Okay, it's really funny because like the plot line in yakuza 5 is literally a guy gets kicked out of baseball out of one game Because he hits a pitch he shouldn't be able to and the assumption is that he stole the sign So the catcher again the catcher calls the sign and then the pitcher chooses yes or no

Yeah, and then does it now What i'm wondering I guess is why don't you just have them buzz each other shouldn't it? Are they allowed? Is that is stealing a sign? I guess they are But if they did then you would hear about teams like hijacking the signal out of the air Okay, because that's the thing right if we're talking about like someone overheard the play Okay, I got stealing signs as a part of baseball right I have I have a clarification as to what exactly The dugout of the opposing team was being shown live feeds of the catcher signals from a camera in the center field stands

Okay, okay, okay. That is so obviously cheating but here's So someone's saying that stealing signs is a part of baseball Like in terms of like cheating is a part of sports That that's the same argument helping Using technology to help you do some bullshit like that is a ridiculous step Yeah, but you would agree probably that if you did not Uh use that tech if you were just eyeballing it from your place on second base. Yes And if you had somebody whose job it was to sit there and figure that out

And then they did it without tech. How would you feel about that? What if someone what if the bat boy? Sat there and he he looked at the catcher's hands and then he would tell the others via his own Guess what this is where we get into the the the argument that hey, we talked about soccer just now, right? Yeah Football actually footy. Yeah footy football footy has a long-standing argument Between everybody who cares about footy and everybody who don't care about footy. Yeah, and that's diving, right? Yeah, diving is the most

Diving will put people who would normally watch it off Right and diving is so regularly shamed in other sports Yeah, and I had a really good conversation with a bunch of people many years ago who explained to me what the mental process is and it's very simple It's about sportsmanship and about what your view of what sportsmanship actually is in the terms of professional sports Is rule breaking Bad on its own Is it just immoral and unsportsmanlike and something that no one should do?

Yeah, or is rule breaking a resource for teams to use In order to get an advantage over the other teams as long as everyone is doing it So the problem is that it should be the former but it becomes the latter with the meta because everyone's cheating when the meta develops Yeah, right and so when the NFL takes years to update their rules and eventually says fine You can use a timeout to get a play reviewed because our stupid refs don't have the eyes We thought they did. Yeah, right a blatant moment of Call it in the air tails. It's heads. What? Yeah heads. It is and you're like I I said And everyone heard it and then the refs like no

Yeah, fuck you. We get can we replay that right? So if the meta and baseball Is in fact that you're supposed to try and figure out what these come this this communication Crack the code and then you're gonna go to the lengths you need to do to crack that code There's no upper limit on the tech you're allowed to use to crack the code right right But now is that mean the people are allowed to hit the upper limit on hiding the code? Yes, that's what I'm saying So now why not upgrade and this is the code this leads So, you know, what's funny?

Well, you are going down a path that you have mocked me for in the past 100% because the path that you are on right now Is escalation? Leads to we should just force them full of drugs and make it blood sport I think like that's where this goes if you're telling me that the game has if you're telling me the game has changed Right everyone is cheating ever you can't pull it out because it's a soft rule Yeah, right. It's a soft part of the game. Then why can't The pitcher and catcher actually have their own updated tech to signal each other What's why can't they have brain implants to transmit the thoughts? Well?

I was gonna say little bits little shoe tap buttons. Oh, yeah toe buttons. Oh, yeah tap your toe on this Right pop pop pop pop. Here's the thing. Well, how would that transmit a signal? Yeah, does it then become against the rules to hijack the pitcher signal? Encrypted You know, does it become against the rules to break that encryption? You're not going to break that encryption Well, there are a lot of dollars right on these games, man We can hire some ukrainians Why are there all these ukrainian scientists in the dugout?

Oh That's weird They got a little lab set up. Do you think they're polishing the bats with some new special oil? I mean look The game is the game right that the natural evolution of the game. Do you embrace it or do you die like a dog? Yeah What are we doing here? It's sad to me. I don't think anybody should cheat I think everybody should play their hardest and do their best and I understand how laughably naive that is

I think as long as the graze this technology was introduced within the gray And oh my god, I thought Oh, man I thought you were gonna say as long as the graze continue to control professional sports And you were gonna start talking about how the ufos are telling people who wins at baseball. Okay. Listen. No the gray areas of of sports If they are the meta and the people who make the rules

Because here's what's actually the right what should actually happen Is that the the mlb? The uh fifa. Yeah, um NFL all these leads need to just update their rules correctly immediately to reflect that Cheating is bad and you should not do it. Yeah, so the and rules exist and if you break the rules, that's bad I should like I'm of the opinion that A team gets caught and it's the whole team, right?

Kicked out of the league I mean look just just flat or you know what? Yeah, well the team's not kicked out of the league But every player involved is look that's not the way this works You're out of your mind the owners of the teams and the teams themselves are a franchise a business and a city fucking Money maker. Yeah, you find them and is how this goes right because that's what you do you find teams You thought you just they have to pay I prefer if they killed the teams not the people the team The the team not the people Yeah, well tell that to the fucking

Uh, uh, whatever that soccer team was from that South American country that fucking anyway There's a team that got wiped out for losing. Yeah too hard. It was pretty crazy. But anyway all that to say that You you have two choices, right? It's the league has to update their their shit to say that don't don't fucking know, right? You have to make a call on what that What that is you can make a call on it now if you're playing football like american football and you can hear The the the calls

Because the guy's talking too loud, right? In there in the huddle Yeah, or even better yet when he goes blue 42 And you you you come to learn what blue you're familiar with that team you play the right Then good for you. Yeah, I mean literally there was a point where um, you're using drones to eavesdrop So my old team so when we when when I played right? I remember specifically that we would use Uh four digit numbers with like another word so the first word would be

specifically for Uh, the running back in the full back And then there would be four digits called out and those would be the routes So if they went 28 28 It means your outside receivers run two And then your other outside receiver runs eight and then the inside runs one two exactly, right? So you're just giving them the numbers and every team's gonna have a slight slight variation on the code And everyone knows what those routes are, right? So, uh, if you eventually

Over time are able to determine what that is. That's just you playing rain, man Watching the sport, you know, is that not allowed? No, that should be right So but using I mean it's it's it's it's a real obvious thing of like luckily You know, there's there is a blurry line somewhere in there. Yeah, and it usually goes on I'll know it when I see it. Luckily the line is no you're never near the line ever the line is either Safely in distance or so far behind you. You can't see it anymore

So there's a rule in the nfl where anything that seems like it's outside the rule book can, uh Result in the refs penalizing. Okay. So the refs discretion refs discretion. Sure, right? That's you know what and that's probably playing it say until you pay them until or Use a timeout. Yeah to have them check the footage on it. Yeah, right But Until the mlb steps in all right and makes the call shoe tap tech all right list bands Cyber baseball all right

I have a new meta The new meta for baseball Is everyone ready? all right The cubs are a baseball team. Yes. Yes Cubs for bears, right? They're right or whatever. Yeah. Okay. So here's what you do If say the cubs were to be caught cheating Their next game must be played against a team of bears

And they have to do the whole nine innings this means The teams with shitty mascots that are harmless Will have an advantage. How's washington? I don't know what they got What do they got redskins? Still You know what I bet that would work out great Hey guys, you want to have a violent blood sport against the team that still uses this name? Let's go

You Yeah, that gets a little complex the further you go out into the fringes Yeah, you know what about teams that have mascots that aren't real well, I mean I'm pretty sure a 49er is a reference to a minor a minor. Yeah Get some some big ass dudes with pickaxes in there. But what's a 76er 76er? Yeah, I don't know god. What's a 76er? One two three four five sixers Ten nine eight seventy sixers. I have no idea 1970s 1776. What's the founding fathers? Oh

I see Reanimation jutsu we pulling coffins up out of the ground, you know tensay. Yo, you know who I want to see I want to see the Ottawa senators against the Ottawa senators. That's okay. That'd be dope. Okay What's a spur? That's a it's a thing you put on your Your boot. Oh, yeah. Yeah now what you'll have to have spur firing machines that can stand in at the various bases That will fire spurs at all players I just want to get to a blood sport rams would be fun. You really want it badly

Dude, it'd be so cool dolphins shirt dolphins on the field What are you gonna do tape baseball? That's their mouths I mean It's miami's problem. I guess I guess it is let them figure it out. You know what? The mlp will mandate an underwater baseball stadium be built Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. No wait. Stop Tampa Bay Tampa Bay Tampa Bay What I got the lightning All right, that's good. That's good

That's good Just give him a little zap at the plate Yeah, that's not gonna work. Yeah, well The xfl had the rage. Wow What do you interpret that to be? Hey, can you remember the only movie the xfl has ever appeared in? Movie that's right feature film Would it be that That one where there was a terrorist at the football game. No

I think it was not the bad damn movie or whatever. No, okay. It's just it's a schwarzenegger movie The xfl and schwarzenegger the timeline for that would be Possibly true lies way later. It's the sixth day I never saw that in the sixth day of football player and the xfl gets horribly tackled and breaks his neck And then they kill him and then they clone him Because he's an asset and that's the beginning of the movie I fucking never saw this. That's what I you know what that's the movie. I was trying to remember that movie sucks I was trying like wasn't there like a thing and it was like a name that was like it was like a

It was like it was an apocalyptica Like no, it wasn't apocalyptica. That's the mel Gibson I'm like, well, it was and I was trying to remember the name of the movie. It was the sixth day The sixth day is a terrible movie That much like the robocop remake has one moment in it that is like Genuinely horrifically existentially terrifying because the main villain he he just keeps cloning himself every time He dies and the clone technology in that is that you look in a little you look into a virtual boy And it snapshots your memories from that period and that's what they load into the clone

Later on in the movie he fucks up and the clone comes out too early and he's all melted and bullshit He's like fuck. I got to clone myself again Right and he clones himself again And then the perfect clone walks out and starts like berating the melted one and like stealing his clothes and being like Wow, who the fuck are you you fucking asshole? And it's like and he's like no, but I it's I me and it's like the first time two clones from Successive generations have interacted and it's it's horrible. It's nightmarish Wow

Don't cloning yourself and putting your memories in the clone does not extend your life That is not how that works. Isn't that the new Paul Rudd movie? I don't know. Yeah, there's a new Paul Rudd movie. That's that Okay, is that like multiplicity with with he's got a he's got to fight himself Okay, because he's like a schlub, but there's a better version of him trying to replace him. Okay Uh, yeah, if we can bookend That mascot discussion. I think I think our a nice little end all be all Would be montrealers versus canadians Well that'd get real awkward that will get yeah, it wouldn't be a nice one

Wouldn't be a nice one time to start throwing down against some family members Seattle would just have a battle with sound Because supersonics would just blast them with fucking would literally just like they're just mock Shock waves. Yeah, and they'd have to stand up and get annihilated by sound. There's that so, you know Well, anyway Captain subasa is coming out this year He'll fight you with his magic powers of soccer and or foody If the rules won't update to say fuck diving then what you what are you supposed to see?

You know what I mean like because it's I think that every every Soccer player basketball player hockey player or football player That fakes a dive and clutches their knee And fine and gets found out to have dived should have a person come on to the fucking field with a hammer And smash their knee to pieces. I mean the argument that rules are meant to be broken is like in sports. It's like, yeah like Yeah, that's just shitty You know and hey, right? How do you feel about coaching? Well?

yeah, it's Make a call make a call That's all I'm saying if you don't make a call then you can't blame players When they try to circumvent Yeah, I've said it like twice already and I'm gonna say it for the third time the chappelle And I will say this modern problems. You absolutely can blame everyone

Every time What am I supposed to do not take drugs to run the Tour de France? Look at neil. He's going Yeah, you're not you're not supposed to Fuck off They wasn't Tour de France where like after neil are not neil armstrong. That's glance lance armstrong Got demoted because of the drugs. They couldn't verify Whether or not everyone who would have gotten the the consolation prizes was went also not on drugs

It went down to 13th place. So like the the events essentially have no winners for a decade They they like they had to drop it to the nearest non using and it's like wow that that that killed that fucking event Because it's a farce So do you you know what are the rules? Well, yeah, what are you gonna what do you want to do? Anyway, um So it's almost as if The people playing to win have no core values play to win Right, yeah But if you do if you do have a core value one core value

It might be Uh time for you to pony up 80 dollars. Uh-huh Excuse me 89 dollars. Uh-huh to buy the fourth season pass For dead or alive six. Oh, wow Uh I think we're going for what kind of costumes we're looking at. Uh maids. Okay. That's good. That's good. That's attractive Uh, there were some made outfits in the previous Previous but these are different made outfits, but these are different made outfits. The old ones are french. These ones are what?

These ones are floral and sometimes pink. Oh, that's cute. It's mainly french though. Yeah, mm-hmm Um, why are french maids so much more attractive than other maids? What is it about that particular outfit? Uh, I guess it's a An aura of like class and nobility and whatever that image is. It's probably just the skirt I mean, do does any other maid have a uniform? Besides well, if you make them, yeah besides a barmaid You know like I can't and that's the same thing too, right more or less barmaid slash

Like wench outfit type of thing Yeah What happened to wenches or wenches still a thing? Uh, not here. Are we like 180 years out of date on wenching? No Wenches are gone. Okay. You do wenches for a throwback. You don't have real ones that much really anymore What are you even saying with your words? I'm saying wenches. What happened to wenches? Wenches went away. Okay Hey Hooters still exists. It sure does

But otherwise, okay, you got to go over to scandinavia or germany probably and go to a throwback bar Yeah, where they do it for the throwback. Yeah, okay. That's what i'm trying to say Or play ff7 Sure Um, or or witcher two One one one's big old wenching. Yeah one Um, I don't like the word that I'm using as a verb. I don't like it too late. It's far too late That our live six appears to be

Aiming for the top and by the top. I mean, uh, the record for the most expensive fighting game Uh, I it's gotta be a long while yet before beats that train simulator I Know the train's on the letters not a fighting game, but in terms of dlc packages. Yeah that train shit What's the what's the cost at? I don't know like $1,300. Okay, fair enough Fair enough didn't project cars also have some stupid shit. I don't remember I don't know anything about project cars. I wouldn't be able to tell you Well, at least for as far as fighting games go

Um, I think we're currently at $400. Okay, that's pretty good. That's pretty good Uh main game plus $340 and passes Listen, there's a costume for every waifu And a waifu for every player What are we just gonna see the dead or alive porn game? 2026 I feel like that's just bank that they're just sitting on once the like it's it's there, right 100% like some kind of regulation comes down from sony. That's like, yeah, we're letting porn games on the platform now They already own the name extreme. They do

And no, it wouldn't be on consoles. No, it would be on the pc. It would be straight to pc. It'd be a vr game. It'd be Probably kickstarted. Yeah. No, they don't need to kickstart. No, they'd I guess not but but if you do kickstarter you get rich For free. So why wouldn't you? Yeah, maybe Here, oh man, you could you could just do those stretch goals It'd be some real stretch goal, but But um, mm-hmm Like it would literally just be here's the the cast to do a one and then like a million extra dollars per girl see back in the

Price on the girls, you know You know back in the day it a gacky was around and he kind of Was setting himself up as like the protective father of the Dead or Alive franchise Boyd white Everything about that feels horrible. Well, you're saying that and as a result, there was a little bit of a now now You can see the merchandise a little bit, but hey, let's not get too gross Right. You guys like samurai swords. Yeah There was that right. There's a vibe of like, hey, these are my girls. Fuck off Yeah, these are mine. This is the limit on them. You're allowed to see this much

I will only let you see this much of my girl for this much money. We can talk later Yeah, this actually seems way skesier, but now with him gone The girls are up for grabs I guess they are there's no, uh custody no, oh Jesus so the property is So the property is going for max awfulness. Dead or Alive as an IP Is just worked on by people that don't have that attachment. Yeah and protective feeling about the characters. They could just sell them whatever

Coming to pc in 2027. I think the worst part about this is the way that you're describing it Sounds like a producer is like yelling at Kasumi to get into a made costume Well, yeah Except I mean either way, there's no choice. What's the dlc that comes out that makes the characters unhappy to be in the costumes? Like ten dollars to have them visibly complained But then you get to make them happy by Dating and turning it around and giving them little gifts And then you buy one of them a little box and it's a little teddy bear. Oh, wow. Now they're happy about it

I'm so uncomfortable Uh, good for tenor alive though Man, they're making money that gift. They know their audience that gift is just a vial There's a vial in there that'll make you happy What's a speculum Did I say even the right word no long should I look this up? Yeah, fuck it Hmm That gift is a spoon. Yeah, that's what I thought it was

It's a medical tool for investigating orifices It's when you got to know You absolutely got to know Hear that guys. No bar for cannibalism this week Kasumi got a spoon Now she gets her belt Enjoy That's how you make them happy to I'm not connecting it which is making me even scared

I I like Like I think when people are talking when you want your girls to wear the things that they don't want to wear Oh, fuck this. Perhaps you can facilitate it with some drugs to make them happy to wear the things Isn't that already in the game? What? I think there's in dead or alive extreme. What are you talking about? I think there's like a fucking like Gel that you put on the girls to make them extra happy and no no no no no no no no no come on now That's not

softening gel Hold on Doa softening gel softening gel Doa extreme three softening gel softening gel. What do the lotions do? There are many plural lotions with an s softening gel will make the breast jiggle more Hardening will do the opposite Softening lotion is weird and kind of makes the breast more heavy So they sit into a swimsuit more or if there's no support they sag more same with lying on their back

Hardening lotion is the opposite and kind of locks the shape in so they don't I can't do it I can't do it. I can't do it. No for the backside. No liquid is the same as the breast lotion before I know You're muted You're muted. I'm muting you I am I can't hear what you're saying You don't get to mute me in the thing that you started When it becomes too much for you

This is your fault I didn't pay for that now. Let's let's get some lotion and soften this podcast up Speaking of dead And not alive Death comes true Is a new live-action FMV game By uh, Kazutaka Kodaka the during the guy who made dangan rampa cool. It is

a live-action adventure and it looks to be very reminiscent in live-action of um, almost like 9 9 9 in a way because there is a like Elaborate looking like room. There's like live-action games are cool, man um Japanese guy and girl, they're running down a hallway and then they're in this like big Elaborate dining room type thing and then they're in a junky room cool

And then there's going to be some mysteries to solve. I want to solve some mysteries chiaki kuriyama aka gogo yubari Is in this as well And uh, who knows maybe it'll be like, uh, what was it called late not late night. What was it? Yeah, that other FMV game that fucking came out on on steam. I don't know FMV games I dig them. I'm down They're cool. I'm I'm yeah, I sell four to eight. Should we scramble on my PC? I still have to get late shift late shift That's the game The trailer ends with main character pulling a gun out and pointing it at his head cool in a threatening manner cool

memory querying Oh That fucking game All right, let's get out of here. But before we do real quick. There is a, uh Quick PSA no need to worry within three hours of Dragon Ball Kakarot coming out Untitled Goose was modded into the game. That's correct. I saw this. Okay It's incredible. Uh

Untitled Goose can fight Untitled Goose exists And is able to Do everything that Goku can do effectively So And this is hours After the game came out

Uh Hard cut to days later and we now have And we now have God what don't we have? Uh, we've got somebody working on Uh, I want Untitled Goose being modded in the games to be like a thing the thing. Yeah. Yeah, definitely want this to be the thing but In the meantime here is Shaggy Playable sick

Doing his Dragon Ball Kakarotting seeing Kakarot. There's this lady researcher That has a suspicious similarity to one from a fighting game. Mm-hmm. I saw that that's good Uh same modder beats is also working on Super sonic sick. Well, I mean, yeah, okay. Yeah, super sonic flying around doing it. It does and unlike Untitled Goose who has no animation Oh sick. Oh, I don't know if you saw it moving, but Untitled Goose has no animation. Oh, that's that's the best. It's the best, right? Uh sonic is totally flying and fighting and doing it looks sonic looks like pretty Impressive actually Untitled Goose is just fucking floating around there. That's great. Yeah uh, and kuma from uh fighters megamix and uh after sonic came cj

From gta Who is also fully animated here we go again and doing kaiokens and kamehamehas And getting tired That's doing everything. That's just great. So we're at peak Kakarot Yeah days days

People have been waiting for this basically And prepped themselves to drop the drop it in as the second it fucking dropped There's someone out there who had the goose ready and waiting and downloaded the game Bought it and started modding without ever booting it up That's that's the speed we're talking about Who needs to play games just mod them Trend of Untitled Goose would be fantastic. Oh, I love it

Uh, if you got an email you could send it over to castle super beast mail at gmail.com That's castle super beast mail at gmail.com We got some emails this week. I'm sure we do Hit me with an email sir All right one email A couple of people wrote in with their hustles. Oh, dude and hustle adjacent discussions. I'm glad. Yeah, I like those King of beggars here got a personal story about how razor thin the line between scam and hustle could get I'd like to stop you right there perfect name

For a hustle email Perfect. All right, let's go. So when I was a kid my dad who was an actual legitimate criminal This is a good start used to have a hustle that involved the entire family We grew up with a local branch of the Salvation Army in Goodwill Uh would have donation spots in nearly every grocery parking lot of the city. They'd park a truck full A full truck trailer in the at the far end of the lot People would bring whatever they wanted to donate and leave it outside the truck Workers would come back later in the day gather them up and store them in the truck and leave

Once those were things were on the truck. They were clearly the property of the organization, right? My dad's reasoning was that as long as you got there at 4 a.m. That stuff was abandoned So he could swing by all the trucks pick up the stuff take whatever looked like he could resell Uh, and he would take all questionably obtained merchandise to the flea market like it was our stuff Did this every saturday for years would sometimes walk away with a good three to six hundred bucks a day um On a saturday, uh, this was the early 90s and that was a lot of money So here's the question hustle or scam money bags or scumbags. That's theft

That's neither That's just straight up theft Here's a list of some of the things from a charity Here's a short list of some of the notable things we found a fake gold watch The leg lamp from a christmas story An old ibm mechanical typewriter still in the box Five milk crates full of someone's entire collection of playboys going all the way back to the early 70s Yeah, that's just that's just stealing

From the less fortunate Yeah, no less And it's not even here's the thing In some weird way, right? If They were poor And they were taking stuff they needed Then it would almost be just like you skipped a middle. You skipped the line. Yeah, right?

No, you'd be like a whatever you you'd be out there anyway But you just skipped the line by by to take all the stuff. Yeah, but you're selling them for money Now I know what you can think you don't even get The benefit here's where the real here's where the real rub is right at what point Does a scam turn into a hustle because Well, I'm shit off I need this more than whoever salvation is getting well

I need this more than they do is the thought process of every like crazy I don't know. I feel like you got to be pretty fucking bad off to steal from a fucking charity Or or just not giving fuck That's possible too. Have you heard the angry mothers that no you've told this story It's there's so many That are mad at you for trying to sell your video game console to them when their son deserves it because

They have a son. That's true. They do they don't understand what it's like to be a mother. You're you know what ma'am? You're right. I don't understand reason enough No, it's not um I dealt with a lot of unreasonable people back in the day working retail over shit like 10 cents off a can of peas and I got to tell you

Maybe other people don't feel this way When they start to get crazy, you know what it feels like great It feels great because they're wrong And you have nothing for them other than No, that's the price of the can of peas Uh-huh

uh-huh Yep, that's time. You don't have to work by the way When somebody's yelling at you that's yeah, I was I was wondering for a second. Yeah, okay. I see I've told this story before and I'm going to tell it again right now and it's my happiest moment at work ever Closing up do that thing where somebody stands in the other door So you can let people out but not let new people in right because it's like 10 25 right the store's already closed Two guys run down who are clearly well off their upper middle class. They live in the building upstairs I have seen them in the apartment complex. They have money. They have means

Hey, bro. We just got to get in there. It's uh, we got to get we got to get some milk The store's closed man No, no, no, we'll just we'll just we'll just be there in a second. We'll just it'll be two seconds Caches are closed cashiers aren't going to open their caches back up so that you can buy some milk too bad No, no, man. Okay, listen, I'll give you 20 we can get it. We just get some milk Just close it in their face and then They start to yell and scream and stomp off and damn near stamp their feet

In anger. I can't believe this was before the side door, right? Yeah, it's way before the side door. I can't believe that motherfucker wouldn't let us into a closed store And you know what my favorite part about it Is that I could tell they were lying that they wanted to do their whole groceries One because I recognize them and I know what the groceries they kind of do two You remember where that grocery store is if they wanted milk They could have gone to the fucking depeur on the other side of the street. That's sure that sells milk. Yep That's open 24 hours a day. Yep

That's true, too So like the whole the whole situation is predicated on I know you're full of shit You could have went to the mcdonald's and just bought a bunch of milk You could have done that in a in an emergency scenario quite fuck them right Well, I mean at that point you're just looking at like yeah Someone who's angry at the situation life has created or they have created for themselves and they're a and they're you know Throwing it on to somebody because they've never learned how to deal with their life is easy their shit. So

What do you want? What do you want? I deserve that milk Bonus legitimate hustle. Okay. Thank you dad used to have a job as the manager of a warehouse for a company that had to Deal with tech companies to dispose of their obsolete electronic stock and stuff from foreclosures Got it. They got the stuff and shipped it overseas and you were used Uh For those small scale agent tech markets, right? This was pre bubble silicon valley. So Uh, they got tons of IBM stuff and everything one time. They got a full palette of uh,

Atari 2600s and some games dad took 50 of those home trunk full of games Sold them for 20 bucks with four games. We sold them all in a month. That's a hustle This is just gonna sell for shit somewhere else. I'll just take it and sell it for real here Bam done unless he stole it from the company unless he stole at which point it's still just that I'm just That email makes me question how clear the line between hustle and scam is to people the it's the same action Depending on your circumstances and intent makes the difference if they kept the stuff they took And you know what the line for whether you need it or not? Yeah hard to say

Because let's be real. Let's take a good example video game piracy Are you well off? Are you a doctor? Do you have lots of money? Don't pirate. You're an asshole Or are you dirt poor and live in Czechoslovakia or the Czech Republic or poland or whatever and the game won't come out in your region Anyway, yeah, fuck it pirate it. You know like Context I was never like I always thought that like There were times growing up where uh, we had it rough. Yeah, we had Not a lot and I knew that yeah, but I never it never quite felt like we were

Uh, I never internalized like us being on dire straits for example Yeah, and part of that is probably just because my mom did a really good job of hiding it Yeah, but there were points in time where yeah, there's yeah I just I never I never had it didn't hit there There was there was a there was a couple years where dad lost his job and stuff started to get fucking Spooky and I house and like I was and I remember uh Discovering years later that there was a point where she was grabbing cans And I didn't know that was a thing

but like it was Weird because your image of that Of of like the level you'd be at for that versus the image of Where you are personally is very separate Right, you'd be at a point where you'd be you'd think like oh, yeah, if you're grabbing cans, you're probably

It's pretty rough. Yeah, and it turns out that some of the people doing that are like Not as bad as you'd think But still bad but enough that the cans would make a difference to help if there's enough of them So I have a I have a really Perfect series of anecdotes for this that I'll rush through back at the grocery store around christmas time. You saw it When you're dealing with food, you see it about as bad as you could see it, right? Sorry, when I say grabbing cans, I mean Um recycling cans. Oh, I thought you meant lifting cans all hell. No, she's an insane christian lady. Dude. I don't know

I'm sorry because that means something very different to me. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I just realized in that moment Recycling cans recycling cans recycling cans for the five cents. Okay, so that's a very different tone From that story. Yes Need to clarify the terminology not stealing. Okay recycling cans Okay, yes, okay Um, but what I would what I was that is a really important distinction. Yes Um still though like, you know, collecting and recycling cans

You you would assume it's like yeah that person probably really makes a difference to them when uh when we Would it would be around christmas time? And there's two types of thieves at the grocery store There's the people who want it And the people who need it Yeah And everybody who works at a grocery store for a couple months can tell them before they even walk into the store, right? Everybody who wanted it

Got thrown out by a big person who worked there Or or or the cops or whatever People who needed it. I remember there's a homeless guy came in and he walked in and he looked like shit And he just walked right over to the bakery and just started eating donuts Hmm and like like he was gonna die and Guy came guy came over. It's like dude. You can't do that. Mm-hmm. Just just just go away

And the guy left, right? And I remember and that was that like no nobody wants to Get this guy in trouble. This dude is is desperate, but like I can't tell him It's okay to eat the donuts because yeah, I'll get fucking fun, you know, yeah Uh, and then there was another guy. I remember he came in And he was a regular and he's like it is Christmas and I am broke Help So we went around we got him a we got him a bunch of food for Christmas

And then he left and then a couple months later He came back and he started doing regular groceries again. Cool But then there's the people who just walk in and they grab an apple and they just put it into their What what's true north coat? Yes, and you're like you need to go to hell. Yeah, you need to go fuck yourself so Just for some context to swim it the other way because I feel like in speaking that like it was like The other thing that I that that happened a couple times

Uh, actually for a while just one second north face is a high-end Uh winter coat in canada in canada. It's an expensive coat. It's really good. I have one But nobody walking around with one of those jackets needs to steal goose down They got the goose down There was a A charity center set up by someone who was at our church who would Basically get some groceries from the local grocery store And give them away to people and they'd come by and that's that's the whole thing

Absolutely building that was set up for that purpose, right? They would always need volunteers that always need people helping or whatnot. She would go down there volunteer Help give out some of the stuff and then be like, hey, do you mind if I grab a few of these? Is that okay? And then be like sure. Hey, you want to hear what the actual most human scum is? The boss of a grocery store that when somebody like that comes around goes nah And they go why they go lawsuit and it's like that's not real That's not a real thing by the way the threat of lawsuit over spoiled food from a grocery store. Yeah, that's never happened Yeah, because the answer is nah

And then you watch as the fucking day old food gets thrown out by the palette Yeah, yeah human garbage But all that to say that like there was a like let me go help people thing And then at the same time because the situation wasn't great Benefit by asking for a couple of things as well. Absolutely at the end and it's like that's a fine way to do that but um All this to say that if at any given point

You know, you're in the you're in the realm of like, yeah, I'm taking that because I'm gonna sell it Like you're already you're out. You're standing on the line. You're all you know. Yeah You know like hey man, do you want you want you want to go grab a bite? Fuck you. Give me money. Give me cash. I would like some cash, please Okay, bye. Mm-hmm. I tried I remember uh, I remember a lady Uh, my friend Amanda. She's a sweet soul walk by and this lady had the food sign out And she was like, oh, hey, do you want my lunch?

And she's like, no, I want money. Yeah, like, okay. Oh, yeah Way to ruin it for everybody lady Holy shit. Mm-hmm. Yeah, my my brother got that a couple times too Like literally was just like, yo, let's go to mcdonald's like grab you whatever you want on the menu and dude was Extremely angry And just like, you know fucking lashed out like insanely to like how dare you almost and is like cool, all right Tried did I ever tell the story about the old man who approached me in the parking lot because he ran out of money for gas

Did I ever tell that story Because it's appropriate now because it's a hustle. Is it a hustle or is it a scam? So I ran into an old man. Is this a new segment? Yeah, there we go. I ran into an old hustle or scam You let us run into an old man Who was just very distraught And his wife was clearly in the car over uh In the uh in the parking lot

You know, it's like sir. I really hate to bother you, but uh, we run out of gas. We got a drive back to toronto my son Hospital trip in montreal blah blah blah and he seemed sincere And I I had a sneaking suspicion that it could have been a scam But i'm like on the off chance that it is not a scam And that this old man is sincere and they are kind of stranded I will give this guy the 20 that I have in my wallet

So that he can go get gas and drive home, right? And I left going I probably just wasted money, but there's the possibility that I did a good deed, right? Yep I'll live with it Fast forward a year The same old man is in the same parking lot in my area And starts telling me the same thing. Yep And I look at him and I'm like You you don't you don't I actually got to have the moment of like you don't remember me, do you? Yeah

He goes what I'm like you just you told me the exact same thing about nine months ago in this exact parking lot. Yeah And he goes what? Like you have a good day, buddy. I just wandered away as he Flustered and he went back and sat in his car for a bit. I could tell yeah. Yeah, so that You know, it's it's it's the proper fuck you on that one because it's like now you're just exploiting goodwill. Yeah, right Uh, congrats. Now. I will never give any money to anyone who desperately needs it on the street ever again Oh, man, I used one of the one of the places I used to live on the way up to it. There was a a

telephone booth back when we still had those and Apparently there's some places that still have them. It's kind of what I all neighborhoods thought a couple. It's crazy But those are pretty much all gone now but there was a telephone booth on the way to my old place and I remember walking up there and uh, there was a dude that was in there and he like as you were walking by He had the phone in his hand and he'd lean out and go. Hey, sorry. Do you have a quarter? Like he'd say it almost like a That's a good. Hey, that's a good hustle

And I was like, no, sorry. I don't you'd walk by and then yeah Every single fucking six to eight week rotation He'd be back in there one night and then you'd be like and as you walk by the first time you walk by by the way I'm walking and I it's far along. It's in the middle of the street. So there's enough clearance Um, it was the up the hill place I used to live Yeah, you up there's enough clearance that by the time you make it to the top of the hill You can look back and see him doing it to the next person behind you Yeah, and just staying in the booth for an hour the booth. Yeah

And he just leaned out of he'd turn around as you were coming and lean out of that booth and go Hey, sorry. Do you have a quarter? And then you'd be like, oh, okay. Okay. And then you just do it to everybody and then that that was his hustle I've just I just remembered a hustle. I'm holding a phone in my hand. Clearly the context means I need this Hey, I've got one for you and it's a hustle that is definitely a hustle and it doesn't hurt anyone But these people are the worst people And it's the one that I used to run into all the time. That's the people who pretend that they're homeless There's literally documentaries about um

The dude who'd show up In his fucking convertible Park it get changed walk down sit on the corner of atwater There there was a lady That used to be there And you ran into her. Mm-hmm multiple times the one with the wavy hair Came down to about here. Mm-hmm. And you were like, what's up with that lady? I'm like, oh, she pretends to be homeless She comes and does her groceries like anybody else

Then walks out of the store and pretends to be homeless and beg for change She just rustles up her hair and kind of gets heavy-litted eyes. Yep. There's a news There's a news thing about like they followed this guy like getting out of his van and getting the crutches out And doing oh man and doing the crutch walk onto st. Catherine Oh, man, and then walking back at the end of the day There's the lady who would walk around with her Um Raised money for my country. Yeah thing and she had the big plastic the big laminated

Oh, I know her card. I ran into her three four times complete fraud does not like it when you give her her card back Yeah, yeah, because really she does not like it. Yeah Laminates I've got a laminated card. So, you know, it's real. No Well, anyway, please donate every time and then of course There's the basketball boys. Oh those boys walking up and down from I'd say east to west st. Catherine. They cover the whole thing

I think the funniest thing is that if you live anywhere near these areas or work anywhere near these areas These people's hustles start to fall apart because you recognize them constantly and they did it for so long That their voices got deep. Yeah They flew past high school age And kept walking around be like, yeah, I raise the money for basketball team, you know We're in grade 10. Are you you're like 25? Are you really really? You know and like, yeah, they're just and it's just like playing the numbers Swim through the crowd do this every day

They probably made enough to keep at it for years if they're gonna keep doing it while their voices are deep that means it works But they fucking flew past anything remotely resembling high school and just kept it like it's these are these are the scams Yeah, yeah, good email your dad is a for real criminal If you profit see will eat your soda hustle, what a wholesome hustle nobody nobody got hurt everybody won everybody wins While I profit. Yeah The hustles we're describing Ew gross if someone loses while you profit Like a lot of these like the homeless have it hard enough without people pretending to be homeless and stealing their tips

Or if everybody loses. Yeah. Yeah, there are hustles in which everyone loses, you know Like come on. You're damaging the dignity of the human race with your actions. Please stop if Yeah, and then there and then there's and well, anyway, that's that's that's it it's it is a you can those feelers are very context sensitive and There might be follow-up questions required to determine exactly How find that line can get cut? but at the moment as is

Yeah, your dad's probably And I mean to be fair you did preface it saying right off the bat. So good email. Good. Very good email. Well, in fact, I'm full I'm good. You're good. We'll take it there. All right. Hey Come on back next Monday For the next week's podcast Uh, whoa. Hey, what's wrong with this? What's wrong with what? Nothing. Okay All right, so Yeah

Yeah, totally next Monday. That's Monday at 1 p.m. Eastern as usual. Yes um, there is the final Sam show event is happening in LA on the weekend of February 1st which I'm pretty sure but I might not go but I think I'm gonna go But either way so that means the week from now would be

Uh, uh, uh Wednesday if I do end up going to that but otherwise. Yeah, Mondays. All right, cool Check us out at uh, woolly verses and at uh, angriest path. Yes, and uh, And let me throw this in there because I forgot to say earlier. Um The uh, uh, uh, god in 60 seconds is back. It's happening on Sundays on uh, woolly verses and for those of you who are concerned about um, my opinions on hunter hunter While I'm being uh chased and or other obscene absurd things are occurring Uh, you're focusing on the wrong thing. Probably you should probably just made the gimmick to appealing. Well, it's just you should probably

It enjoy the kayfabe No, woolly the shoot will happen. No, but but if if you're looking past A crime scene to find out how I feel about Uh, this one moment in this one thing and it's it's clearly an absurdly played up video You're probably pulling out in the magnifying glass a little too hard. You guys how do you feel about the yorio? Sure. Yeah, okay. Good enough for me Oh Oh

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