Castle Super Beast - CSB 056: The May 1918 Dabbings

Episode Date: February 18, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 music music music hello yeah what's up what's up with you I think um
Starting point is 00:00:41 I think someone needs to take V's twitter away I think the visions of V turned out to be you mean V the video game character not V the person yes
Starting point is 00:00:54 turned out to be hallucinations of not real things or at the very least I don't think he understands the power that he wields because I don't I think that's probably
Starting point is 00:01:04 the most accurate reading this is the second story within a month or two so Brian Hanford the guy that plays V in Devil May Cry 5
Starting point is 00:01:15 had a big explosive tweet this weekend that everybody was definitely freaking out over which is something to the effect of I'm really excited for that new cap hashtag Capcom versus game
Starting point is 00:01:28 oh man there's going to be tons of new characters maybe even somebody you know didn't say anything like that but said I'm really excited for the new hashtag Capcom versus game to which everyone went well you're an official voice actor on the Capcom franchise
Starting point is 00:01:41 Devil May Cry so you plus twitter equals announcements and you know how we've seen a couple of these go by where
Starting point is 00:01:52 there has been a note by the way I just want to point out new characters but could be very familiar is the second part of his tweet okay all right super raw
Starting point is 00:02:02 all right I'm sorry so he tweets out he tweets out that and it reminds me of like you know every other time you've seen a celebrity
Starting point is 00:02:12 or a voice actor like accidentally say something in this way except you can just tell when it's like that's not anything that's not an accident that's not a mistake
Starting point is 00:02:24 and reveal that's just a problem right like that's a misunderstanding there's this longstanding history in particular with Devil May Cry where Ruben Langdon
Starting point is 00:02:32 and Daniel Southward and Johnny Young Bosch just hang out at events yes and be like yeah oh boy sure I'm excited about project
Starting point is 00:02:43 oh I've been hanging out with Ruben a lot lately for sure for sure so Dan Southworth like putting his Facebook profile thing for the DMC5 logo was what it was
Starting point is 00:02:52 right then and you know Ruben just being like hey check it out who look who I'm hanging out with for whatever you know
Starting point is 00:03:00 don't worry about it like yeah that's when you know something is happening right those are the types of this wasn't that this was like
Starting point is 00:03:08 hey guys this was just a new versus game just straight up like what no no that's ridiculous right so there was a fun bit about this because everyone was going
Starting point is 00:03:16 crazy and I took one look at this and I went that's not fucking real that's super fake we did a story about Nitsuma leading the company last week
Starting point is 00:03:26 literally seven days ago so it makes so like yeah that's one of those bits where it's like like you know you can you can
Starting point is 00:03:35 you can jump on that and take it at face value but like you know better that's completely that can't like it's super fake right
Starting point is 00:03:43 so not fake but no one knows better so in January he was on a podcast and they were talking about like
Starting point is 00:03:55 Capcom versus games and Smash and things like that and he kind of said something to the effect of like he's a huge fan of like those games and he's like man
Starting point is 00:04:04 it would be such an honor it'd be huge to make it into a versus Capcom game or like Super Smash Brothers which and then he says
Starting point is 00:04:14 which is what Dante's going to be yeah and everyone was like what the fuck was that did you just throw that out there? yeah Dante's going to be a smash character
Starting point is 00:04:23 and then that would you know and then obviously like you know well at least the announcement came that came around was certainly not Dante
Starting point is 00:04:31 at this current time at this current time at this current juncture but that came out a while ago and was very weird so
Starting point is 00:04:39 apparently off of that you know there's like okay he just kind of spoke in a way that was he's talking about his
Starting point is 00:04:48 personal excitement mm-hmm wasn't an official thing but still led to a bunch of confusion this obviously feeds into the fact that
Starting point is 00:04:57 if you want to find out Dante's secrets about the video game business go ask actors or voice actors they'll tell you anything
Starting point is 00:05:07 they don't give a shit I mean so whatever we talked about the the Veronica Mars thing before we had fucking guys see he on the old podcast spoil his own involvement
Starting point is 00:05:18 in a fucking game that hadn't come out yet right so you know and like yeah and I think in the context of that random podcast
Starting point is 00:05:27 conversation it was again like not something it's like in context it seems to have been more like Dante would have been the pick
Starting point is 00:05:36 not V of course and that and for either or of those games not necessarily specified or the other or right
Starting point is 00:05:44 he was like ball rolling they'll put him in in the 65 days between me saying this and
Starting point is 00:05:53 and the game have DLC happen and maybe that'll happen modders modders have have turned tighter deadlines around
Starting point is 00:06:01 maybe there's a there's a moment in his mind where I'm like if I do this and then everyone gets real excited they'll make another
Starting point is 00:06:09 versus game hey man if they can get duck goose if they can get goose game into Dragon Ball Kakarot in three hours
Starting point is 00:06:17 they can do anything it could be done so anyway Capcom should do it so you know obviously that was just like and it's on such
Starting point is 00:06:27 it's on such it's a hot button that like I don't he doesn't realize how rabid people are for a smash
Starting point is 00:06:35 brother character announcements and be anything versus Capcom in general especially after the last one was
Starting point is 00:06:43 a little yeah and we couldn't run any harder back to the past than Evo throwing up MVC2
Starting point is 00:06:52 at the on the main stage so all that to say that like there's a hankering for all this and you know I just think
Starting point is 00:07:00 yeah like he just kind of landed on that and certainly just didn't know what was going to happen and then this time around again with this new tweet same idea
Starting point is 00:07:08 and like fucking everyone overreacts and blows up on it but like dammit dude don't tweet that shit literally like you have to realize
Starting point is 00:07:16 the power and responsibility now of being V there was a big there was my big favorite part of the story is that one day later he unprompted
Starting point is 00:07:26 by anyone talking to him decided to tweet let me be 100% clear I have no knowledge of any new
Starting point is 00:07:35 Capcom games or any other what their games tell this tweet was me being a big fan and seeing an Instagram
Starting point is 00:07:44 ad about Capcom yes I am in no way teasing or revealing info and to be perfectly honest like sure
Starting point is 00:07:54 the calls might have come in and been like dude what the fuck Ryan what the fuck are you doing but even if they didn't right even if they didn't
Starting point is 00:08:03 the reaction to the tweet would be enough to scare anybody who understands uh oh I think people are taking this the wrong way
Starting point is 00:08:11 because it blows up and it's become it's trending and four weeks ago the same thing happened off of the podcast and he's like oh wait but this isn't real
Starting point is 00:08:19 am I gonna get in trouble yeah yes so yes you will get in trouble goodbye V goodbye no no no
Starting point is 00:08:29 it'd be it'd be cool to have him like continue to exist in some sort of like menu announcer kind of way
Starting point is 00:08:37 or just as like some sort of like voice I think probably that would be the best shopkeeper or that when you
Starting point is 00:08:46 the camera zooms in on Virgil and his inner thoughts are represented by V's voice zoom inside and that's what's happening yeah
Starting point is 00:08:55 or it's that or that or reason one or the other on each on each shoulder yeah on each shoulder
Starting point is 00:09:03 you've got reason and you've got V telling him yeah yeah that's it and then when
Starting point is 00:09:11 V can't decide then he has to go over to the animal buddies yes and they're appearing to give they all sit around a little mind table
Starting point is 00:09:19 there you go this this this is the same kind of dumb energy that I was thinking of when I was like if we get a sparta prequel which
Starting point is 00:09:27 I think was talked about for the PSP for DMC zero or whatever the fuck it was that wasn't anything well there was DMC game
Starting point is 00:09:36 announced for the PSP people thought it was going to be zero and it would be sparta no that's all just what we want yeah you're right but
Starting point is 00:09:44 I don't know do you remember do you remember do you remember when sparta woke up to justice and how poor like that's just never
Starting point is 00:09:52 touched on ever I can like I assume it would be he saw Ava and Ava was really hot and he was like yeah
Starting point is 00:10:00 but I prefer the idea that he saw a pizza okay and was like what is that and then he ate
Starting point is 00:10:09 a slice of pizza and was like I have to save the human world see I think that's ridiculous because I think Dante's love of pizza comes from the fact
Starting point is 00:10:17 that he was in a stuffy old mansion with a stuffy old heroic monocle motherfucker that would never disgrace the dinner table
Starting point is 00:10:26 with a pizza look at those photos I don't know man of the family gathering the kind of person that sits down the family to take a photo
Starting point is 00:10:34 like that that type of painting done and Ava's being all like perfectly motherly she's in robes and she might sneak them
Starting point is 00:10:42 a slice of pizza but Sparta would never so you're saying that the pizza is Dante's thing that would mean that
Starting point is 00:10:50 Virgil hates the fact and Sparta have specific dumb depression foods listen uh
Starting point is 00:10:58 Sparta brought pasta to the table okay and that's the type of meal that he would get a linguine man bugs
Starting point is 00:11:06 bug man loves his spaghetti okay and alright and and I think that uh
Starting point is 00:11:14 Virgil took that and then took it to be ah yes the most refined udon and ramen and then
Starting point is 00:11:22 just DS5's painting of him as just a hyper weeaboo is the absolute best ever so so he's like yes father did
Starting point is 00:11:30 love the noodle you know and it's like same thing for Virgil and he's like I eat the udon and the ramen this udon
Starting point is 00:11:38 has been folded over 1000 times truly with the most delicious egg cracked over it you know and that's where he goes off
Starting point is 00:11:46 to fucking study the blade and protect virginities until of course he doesn't um
Starting point is 00:11:54 but Dante swerves the other way and just goes woohoo because mom slipped him some pizza hut one time
Starting point is 00:12:02 and the baseball stands holding the fucking um the cotton candy yeah just powering up and freaking out because Ava
Starting point is 00:12:10 just gave Dante a little bit of cotton candy uh Ava gave Dante a little bit of cotton candy he's just like ah what is this you know that's how
Starting point is 00:12:18 that's how he got into the the wacky woohoo pizzas Virgil having none of it spartus having none of it reminds me of that little like that cute little comic that's like
Starting point is 00:12:26 Dante why do you always eat pizza it's like I always eat pizza when I'm depressed I eat pizza every day yeah and that just zooms in
Starting point is 00:12:34 on his blank eyes yeah but that's not true because we know that Dante doesn't eat pizza when he's depressed he eats ice cream
Starting point is 00:12:42 no that's true too he eats chocolate sundaes when he's depressed that's true too you will give me that egg oh my god he's in there
Starting point is 00:12:55 you know it's so anyway um um um yeah so every time he has to make a decision and he's like
Starting point is 00:13:05 should I wake up to justice and then like little V on the shoulder appears pops in and then opens the book and starts reading a blank quote
Starting point is 00:13:14 wait okay yeah I got so confused he's like no that's he just what and he's going on in the quote
Starting point is 00:13:22 and then Uri's in just like nah I don't do it nah power though nah don't do it not and Uri's in like
Starting point is 00:13:30 yeah V's like yeah it's like okay and Golem and Griffin and the cat
Starting point is 00:13:38 are there and they all go yeah do it yeah Griffin specifically goes potty time and then
Starting point is 00:13:46 and then and then and then and then and then cat fight and then um
Starting point is 00:13:54 whatever panther whatever attack oh god that's terrible I hate that I hate it
Starting point is 00:14:02 yeah Jesus Christ and I think and then I think he gets the picture you know for it like
Starting point is 00:14:10 that's always the part Virgil's inner party that that's always the part that got me of their attitudes is that Virgil was the one
Starting point is 00:14:18 that knocked somebody up like right like or or mysterious lady in red just
Starting point is 00:14:27 was that determined and had that much motivation just scoop some off the sidewalk tackled oh no you know she turns her head
Starting point is 00:14:38 in that cutscene and then we don't know what happens the power of humans and like and maybe maybe you know
Starting point is 00:14:46 maybe the power of mankind was uh just that fucking undeniable do you think they ever saw how he started walking
Starting point is 00:14:55 around the house doing chores and bug man hell no now he never he never bugged up at home that was ridiculous think about how
Starting point is 00:15:03 like remember how their whole you're right I'm sorry what a ridiculous question well it's like no but like their transformation was
Starting point is 00:15:11 such a big deal yeah in the fucking awakening you know what I mean like it's like nah he didn't bug up at home
Starting point is 00:15:19 he just kind of fucking polished swords all day yeah and then every once in a while he'd be like hey Dante come here and then Dante would come running
Starting point is 00:15:27 and then he'd like throw a sword through him Dante's like you got me got you again yeah he's like now pull it out the hard way like
Starting point is 00:15:35 oh man through the hill oh dude he's like oh that sucks this guy you know you gotta get used to get used to that feeling a lot of
Starting point is 00:15:43 a lot of big sword things when you get really good at it your clothes won't even been messed up either there you go there you go so you know that's what it was that's all it was
Starting point is 00:15:51 it was stuffy old manor the stuffy old house and he was just kind of like living way too old style for a modern day
Starting point is 00:16:02 cause cause he was like a weird bug man so like do you think he looked at his kids that were just like reading poetry
Starting point is 00:16:10 and watching anime all day and then the other one was just like listening to rock music and like playing the drums so is this normal but the problem
Starting point is 00:16:19 that's the problem is that rock music existed yeah but he was still ruffa ruffa yeah you know he was still going new
Starting point is 00:16:30 still doing it the old way upper buglet and so on so yeah like who wouldn't wanna get away from that or at the very least just be like
Starting point is 00:16:38 buu that's boring but he was still kind of cool though cause he was powerful yeah I really hope sometime in DMC we get a fucking definitive answer it'd be great
Starting point is 00:16:49 where the fuck Sparta went off to it would be great to find out the answer to all those questions and it would you know what would be great too to have it play out in a way where
Starting point is 00:16:59 like in front of the kids he kind of had that upright demeanor yeah but then the moment they weren't looking he was just Dante Virgil in front of the camera
Starting point is 00:17:10 Virgil in front of the family he's gotta be different he's got so we we talked a lot about this way back when DMC 5 came out and that Dante is like rock cool that Virgil is weeb cool
Starting point is 00:17:24 and that Nero is punk cool and V is goth cool yeah and I went back and I even saw the ending of DMC 4 where Dante
Starting point is 00:17:34 literally calls him a punk okay so Sparta has to be a different it can't be just it can't just be like wahoo pizza
Starting point is 00:17:45 okay he has to be something I guess to be like so suffer cool Churchill cool is that can we go that way like big speed
Starting point is 00:17:56 like big upright and you know drunk perhaps or you know anything from that era
Starting point is 00:18:06 like yeah posh is there posh cool is that such a thing I mean like Churchill um
Starting point is 00:18:16 um what's his name again Hitchcock cool Hitchcock cool can we go Hitchcock cool you know I could think of I could think Gentleman cool
Starting point is 00:18:24 I could think of like a like a Clint Eastwood kind of thing mmm but too too raw too unrefined hair metal
Starting point is 00:18:33 people are saying in the chat dandyism dandyism Slayer and Dudley okay yeah alright there it is that's it and so okay
Starting point is 00:18:45 so he he kills the what he kills the random demon that comes to the house and he does a cool line right but it's kind of lame
Starting point is 00:18:53 like Dudley's you know cause it's too posh and I was just sitting down for tea and the yeah and the two kids look at that and Dante goes
Starting point is 00:19:03 wow that's so cool but I bet it could be even cooler and Virgil goes ugh why didn't he just not say anything that would be way cooler
Starting point is 00:19:12 well no you see Virgil liked the nobility of the act and Dante liked the taunt mm-hmm and then you take it both ways see cause here's the thing right Goken was neither Ken nor Ryu
Starting point is 00:19:25 no he wasn't he was just some old guy he was just old that's it nothing going on there to influence really poorly defined personality now think of it
Starting point is 00:19:34 I don't know what Goken's about at all but then again he's also not their father they're just they just learned from him and whatever yeah in
Starting point is 00:19:43 yeah I think I think in Sparta's case there's enough there's enough there to like back to to backwards right
Starting point is 00:19:51 a character that would like influence them in that at least form those formative years mm-hmm you know and like you couldn't write it beforehand
Starting point is 00:19:59 like you'd have to do it after the fact especially now that we have pretty much the full yeah we have everything timeline on the table except for him except for him
Starting point is 00:20:07 he's a whole blank slate other than he's posh looking and he turns into a bugman what if he still was totally secretly into BDSM though yeah I mean that's fine can't you like what if that
Starting point is 00:20:18 what if he still he still had the king closet oh that is like okay listen we can't bring this world into the canon dad what's in this closet they're for killing demons
Starting point is 00:20:29 this cat and nine tails is actually a demon it's a devil arm it's a devil arm um but you know yeah it's very dangerous
Starting point is 00:20:40 don't play in the room yeah so yeah every time you get a little bored in the bedroom go out and kill a demon or just beat its ass until it surrenders
Starting point is 00:20:51 and turns into a weapon and then now you got some new toys how about that how's a weird place man okay okay here's the real question here's the real question when did Ava fall in love
Starting point is 00:21:06 with Sparta was it once he had woken up to justice and was normal or was Lennon she saw him the first time and he was a horrible bug man
Starting point is 00:21:17 yeah so I don't think the bug man got the juices flowing you don't know that I don't know that you don't know that I refuse to know that but it is entirely plausible that
Starting point is 00:21:28 he woke up to justice because of her in a Dracula way okay you know think about Dracula okay think about the human that walks up
Starting point is 00:21:42 and is all like I'm gonna fuck Dracula and then then we get the photo of after I totally fucked Dracula I totally fucked Dracula and Dracula was like this bitch
Starting point is 00:21:52 fuck the shit damn what are we gonna hey what babies you're right oh that's what this is yeah it's like that okay
Starting point is 00:22:00 it was one of those you know I think I think that's kind of what happened and then the you know the justice would have been the the the
Starting point is 00:22:11 you know waking up to justice is kind of waking up to that ass I just love the phrase waking up to justice yeah totally so stupid because it's like what is justice
Starting point is 00:22:21 and it's like well it's protecting humanity and what is protecting humanity it's that ass though it's that ass if I let Moon just win then that ass goes away and that's bad
Starting point is 00:22:29 so I should get my force edge out hmm nah swing it nah that's nah
Starting point is 00:22:40 he did it I don't like this this is too far for me they saved that sword they did they really saved it I was that sword was terrible
Starting point is 00:22:52 it was the worst and I had I had given up hope on it yeah and then they they brought it back you see it in three and you're like
Starting point is 00:23:00 oh it's that one it used to be cool yeah and then all I can think about is like wait a second if that shit was so beefy that it was the seed of
Starting point is 00:23:11 Spartans sealed off power yada yada yada blah blah blah right and even the un gross bug version
Starting point is 00:23:19 of that sword was the shit right what's up with Alistair then how come Alistair just hard replaces it instantly
Starting point is 00:23:29 we don't talk about Alistair Alistair went to beautiful joe world and never came back oh we don't never mind that yeah
Starting point is 00:23:39 that was weird man well you know anyway um alright well nonsensical banter and Brian don't listen
Starting point is 00:23:50 hey here's here's my pro tip of the day don't listen to Brian Hanford if he's got a secret to tell you it's probably bullshit slash
Starting point is 00:24:01 assume that he's just talking from excitement because he was mmhmm yeah that's what's up put his get a good old picture
Starting point is 00:24:12 of V and just slap it on the fucking memento meme of don't believe his lies man and you're good to go could you imagine
Starting point is 00:24:20 how angry Beowulf would be if he got turned into like a butt plug could you imagine the rage he'd be fucking pissed
Starting point is 00:24:29 Nevin would be super cool with it maybe Nevin would love it the answer is maybe you don't know Nevin would be totally down
Starting point is 00:24:37 to get turned into some kind of kinky object yeah but Beowulf would fucking hate it bro he'd be super pissed so you say are you in your
Starting point is 00:24:48 okay so wait hold on so I always assumed when a devil died they turn into
Starting point is 00:24:56 whatever their soul so the novel oh really the novel elaborates on this because it shows you when
Starting point is 00:25:05 Dante goes to the island where Lucia is from DMC2 and she keeps telling him to knock her up and he's like no way fam
Starting point is 00:25:14 exactly and he meets the grandmother and stuff that whole thing is about how he enslaves Balrog
Starting point is 00:25:22 and then why he has it from the jump in five and that shows you that apparently when
Starting point is 00:25:30 you beat up a demon until it is about to die or at the very least at its weakest it's sign of surrender
Starting point is 00:25:41 it's showing of its belly is turning into a weapon right so that is that is that process so it gets to keep living in some form exactly
Starting point is 00:25:51 oh what's going on here I think I think I think there was a bit of an issue with our oh hello
Starting point is 00:26:05 power plug there did we lose juice am I still alive and how much juice do I retain what happened okay I am in the frozen time
Starting point is 00:26:17 well your camera is dead you gotta go to the webcam and the yeah I can fix it you gotta turn it off and then turn it back on again okay because
Starting point is 00:26:25 suddenly the computer was like hey your battery is on juice and I'm like what that's not correct at all oh no that laptop is an old piece of shit that's an old office laptop
Starting point is 00:26:36 that has a broken space bar but also the power on the tripod happened to just hit the corner of the table in such a right way uh huh
Starting point is 00:26:47 where I think it turned to switch off so why is it to everything just why doesn't everything just work because we have not invented the chiral network yet
Starting point is 00:26:59 oh that's right and then everything will just work once we get the chiral network yep it just works yeah I mean you know
Starting point is 00:27:08 the start up battery is the most important piece but yeah yeah it is yeah so do we take that as a sign that that's the end of that segment
Starting point is 00:27:18 I guess so okay that's fine how was your week my week was alright not a whole lot to speak of except for one
Starting point is 00:27:27 incredibly important thing which is I went with one beach saliva of course to see Sonic the Hedgehog on Valentine's Day well now because that
Starting point is 00:27:38 is the most romantic thing that you can do big romance what did you do woolly did you go out and have a candlelit dinner or a walk on the beach or some other lame shit
Starting point is 00:27:47 no you should have seen Sonic did you see Sonic on Valentine's Day I went to go see Sonic the Hedgehog alone that's on Valentine's Day no
Starting point is 00:28:02 okay I went I went this weekend but I just went by myself okay man nothing wrong with that hey
Starting point is 00:28:11 aside from nothing wrong with that no absolutely not I never understood what do you call it the stigma against going to movies by yourself
Starting point is 00:28:20 yeah I've gone to multiple movies by myself I haven't done it very often but I've done it you hit that point where you're like I would like to see a movie
Starting point is 00:28:28 and I know no matter who I dial in my phone no one's going to want to come out to where I'm at and see a movie in the next 15 minutes yeah sure
Starting point is 00:28:36 I want to I want to go see a swordfish alone yeah I want to go see the world is not enough alone you know
Starting point is 00:28:45 okay that those yeah I'm not surprised there was a couple others and they're more recently I think I saw one Tarantino movie alone but I can't remember what it was
Starting point is 00:28:55 yeah you know I forgot all about Sonic because all I can think about right now for some reason is the Olive Garden I just oh
Starting point is 00:29:07 I have this intense craving to go eat at the Olive Garden I mean is it
Starting point is 00:29:15 just it is just coincidence surely it must be from last week the bit to now became relevant
Starting point is 00:29:23 but yeah so I mean Sonic like Sonic loves the Olive Garden here's how I feel about Sonic
Starting point is 00:29:31 like I'm not going to spoil anything I'm just going to say that you know I think it struck me as a perfectly serviceable
Starting point is 00:29:40 kids movie yep it was pretty it was just fine it hit me the exact same way Detective Pikachu
Starting point is 00:29:48 where I was just like yeah okay you came what you did what you came to do there was no real like
Starting point is 00:29:57 papa you know what I mean it was just yeah that's it that's the Sonic it didn't and in the same way it didn't like
Starting point is 00:30:05 air or flaw in any major ways there's one there's what I will say is I think you know
Starting point is 00:30:14 the Jim Carrey did exactly what he was hired to do to be the goofy be Zany Zany exactly character um
Starting point is 00:30:22 I like I okay John Ralphio eventually warms up and does the job right
Starting point is 00:30:31 but like I do prefer old Sonic voice in general I like that that closer to Jaleel White sounding yeah nasally
Starting point is 00:30:41 hedgehog voice but he definitely like like John Ralphio is doing the I'm annoying yeah kind of character
Starting point is 00:30:49 Sonic is is um stupid stupid he is not intelligent yeah he's not an intelligent hedgehog
Starting point is 00:30:58 well he's not an idiot no but he's not intelligent yeah he's just like he's
Starting point is 00:31:06 I mean he raised himself and he's kind of just figuring it out yeah he's kind of awkward really he's socially awkward yeah socially awkward
Starting point is 00:31:14 right and again you'd also you know you'd think that like given the nature of like your ability to go places very quickly
Starting point is 00:31:24 that you would learn more about like your geography and the whole plan yeah you'd think you'd cover everything about
Starting point is 00:31:32 everything you needed to know but he didn't do that the the he decided to stay they do like so I I would like to go on
Starting point is 00:31:40 is like I think I like the movie a lot more than you did I think it's very much like Detective Pikachu in that it is
Starting point is 00:31:48 a good baseline six to seven it's it is a average to find movie and then your enjoyment
Starting point is 00:31:56 will therefore be raised up based on how much you give a shit about Sonic minutia in which there was a ton
Starting point is 00:32:04 there was a ton of just tiny little yeah things including some children's
Starting point is 00:32:12 drawings yeah and phrases there's references they went hard on they went very hard on memes was
Starting point is 00:32:20 so you know when like old memes too so they they're not you're not worried about them going out of style because they already
Starting point is 00:32:28 went out of style so you know when like they're showing you like you know like just like the earth
Starting point is 00:32:36 and then there's like the original sort of like green hills that he was that like next one in line a reference
Starting point is 00:32:44 in the obvious thought process yes I thought it was and then they just lean into it yeah okay all right that was a reference then
Starting point is 00:32:52 okay they they go into memes they get they get your your what does Sonic eat correct
Starting point is 00:33:00 sure sure does is there anywhere in like the comics or somewhere where like that there's an owl
Starting point is 00:33:08 creature that I have to check on that game or a game or a I looked I looked across at a Sonic aficionado
Starting point is 00:33:16 during this film and she looked at me and said who the fuck is that okay and so I'm gonna assume that's made for the movie
Starting point is 00:33:25 and there's pieces set up obviously for like like things you could do with the future of this if you want to make a franchise out of it
Starting point is 00:33:33 oh I I get a real strong suspicion yeah with from the end of this movie not even within five minutes of the beginning
Starting point is 00:33:41 their plant you can see them setting up yeah like for what they want with the future right like you know from from basically
Starting point is 00:33:49 like the beginning of the movie's baby Sonic basically so like like from everything with that there's stuff there that's like
Starting point is 00:33:57 obviously just ignored for the whole movie pretty much so you know otherwise yeah totally fine and it focuses on him
Starting point is 00:34:05 the Mars doesn't overshadow too much whatever there's some weird stuff going on with him and his female
Starting point is 00:34:13 co-host is that the co-host co-worker wife the lady I don't remember her name all I can remember is Pretzel
Starting point is 00:34:21 Pretzel yeah so Pretzel she's great I actually really love the bit where she's asking if she has stayed cool
Starting point is 00:34:29 during the situation yeah very good that was fun they have what I would call anti-chemistry in that every time
Starting point is 00:34:37 a movie or whatever would like do a big hug and like a kiss or whatever yeah they just kind of like
Starting point is 00:34:45 Mars awkwardly puts his arm around his shoulder yeah they kept it super platonic it's really weird they kept it super platonic
Starting point is 00:34:53 and I was paying attention to how platonic the couple felt it's true it's totally I noticed that Sonic lives in
Starting point is 00:35:01 a weird sexist universe okay there is one there is nothing I just kind of smiled
Starting point is 00:35:09 at the end of the day there's only one part of this movie that I laughed at like out loud and this is just like
Starting point is 00:35:17 somewhere near the start and it's just like basically there's a moment in which they like
Starting point is 00:35:25 James and Sonic pull up to like a gas station that's next to a biker bar yeah
Starting point is 00:35:33 and you know one of the get some supplies stay in the car yeah and then Sonic looks over
Starting point is 00:35:41 and he sees like the biker bar but it just happens to be the most hype poppin biker bar ever
Starting point is 00:35:49 it's so crazy because like the gas station is apparently across the street yeah but the biker bar is so loud
Starting point is 00:35:57 and there's so many flames and people riding sideways on the like how was this not visible on the
Starting point is 00:36:05 biker bar that the terminator would look out of place going to because he would be afraid yeah
Starting point is 00:36:13 it is road house simultaneously you know like and so and like Sonic is like
Starting point is 00:36:21 what the fuck that's the coolest thing ever and then he's like nah I can't looks away then he peeks back at it and then it just like everyone is
Starting point is 00:36:29 gathered around like two woman arm wrestling and like the motor someone's motorcycle is doing burnouts
Starting point is 00:36:37 as he's surfing yeah he's serving on the side of it and everyone's in a circle going yeah yeah and it's so
Starting point is 00:36:45 absurdly fun it's like why would this random biker bar have so much fun in the pacific northwest I might
Starting point is 00:36:53 out of nowhere and it was like I fucking like that got me that really got me you know every two seconds you look away and look back
Starting point is 00:37:01 and everyone's loving it so I was like yeah right that was really funny um and beyond that you know pretty straightforward
Starting point is 00:37:09 I very much liked it I got exactly what I wanted out of it which was there was the middle of the movie drags a little bit the road trip
Starting point is 00:37:18 but like there was not we've watched a lot of video game movies and the vast majority are
Starting point is 00:37:26 you're sitting you're you're resting in between cringing right you're sitting there just going
Starting point is 00:37:35 oh man they're gonna do the ah it's terrible right that didn't happen once to me instead
Starting point is 00:37:43 it was just whether or not this this obscure like sonic joke will land with the audience
Starting point is 00:37:51 and for me they pretty much all did there's also the like the thought that comes in whenever you're reading
Starting point is 00:37:59 like a flash comic you know which becomes a problem for about 80% of the movie because when it shows you how fast sonic is
Starting point is 00:38:07 you're like how does well a big one how does like how do problems still exist on planet earth a big one
Starting point is 00:38:15 is certainly it's like well he's too small to carry a human being right so there
Starting point is 00:38:23 that's one thing but it's not physically like strong you can't pick up but then I guess like at some point
Starting point is 00:38:31 where you're just like okay but like like the idea of a car it's like what about learning the directions here's a map sonic
Starting point is 00:38:39 here's a GPS do you know how to read a map and then you're good to go and like this entire well that's why
Starting point is 00:38:47 the movie has an entire dedicated bit for as to why the movie doesn't get solved instantly and why James Marsden has to go along
Starting point is 00:38:55 for the for the road trip and have an adventure because sonic is not intelligent yeah and he's also
Starting point is 00:39:03 a child basically you know what no he is intelligent sonic totally taught himself how to read and he
Starting point is 00:39:11 and he understands like references and he's making like jokes about like the rock and the
Starting point is 00:39:19 popular new dances and he's doing the day he is doing a floss he is flossing I got the feeling
Starting point is 00:39:27 he was out of touch which I thought was perfect he's not quite as out of touch as I would have wanted no but there's definitely there's definitely at least a scene
Starting point is 00:39:35 or two where he's kind of just like I need help I don't know what I'm doing and you're like and you know
Starting point is 00:39:43 it is what it is but for the most part you know I think it's it's a bit weird to think to that like this is what brings
Starting point is 00:39:51 Jim Carrey out of retirement yeah it's so strange to think that that was his pick he's back I'm certain but he also
Starting point is 00:39:59 like not only was that his pick but it's like it was a pick that wasn't like I'm going to do something way out of character
Starting point is 00:40:07 that like the returning role usually would be no it's he's he's a he's a a Carrey Kutcher haha
Starting point is 00:40:15 haha it's I'm coming out of retirement for this and I'm doing exactly what
Starting point is 00:40:23 I was known for in the 90s evil ace ventura yeah it's it's it's pretty like
Starting point is 00:40:31 wow okay I guess I don't know I you would expect him to come back and do a a I don't know
Starting point is 00:40:39 let's say a 23 you know like well no I was going to say what the fuck was that
Starting point is 00:40:47 movie called well the give me any detail whatsoever the serious Adam Sandler movie like he did
Starting point is 00:40:55 a really good job before the he was a Adam Sandler movie no no no no damn it
Starting point is 00:41:03 it's the one where he's like in a relationship where he's trying to be and he's just playing a serious role and it's not a particularly funny movie
Starting point is 00:41:11 punch trunk love oh that's okay I thought you were like trying to list an actual Carrey movie
Starting point is 00:41:19 no no no I was saying like when an actor well that's why I mentioned 23 because that thing's a fucking there's that
Starting point is 00:41:27 right or more apt more apt would be uncut gems but anyway that was yeah he just came back and did
Starting point is 00:41:35 what he was known for and that was the thing that was the job I was pleasantly surprised that despite the fact that he's great and I loved Jim Carrey
Starting point is 00:41:43 he did not carry the whole movie on his shoulders Carrey didn't carry the whole movie I know right his name is a verb so it's really easy
Starting point is 00:41:51 but like I was I was worried I was going to walk into a movie and every time Sonic and James Morrison were on the screen
Starting point is 00:41:59 I'd want to put a gun on my mouth and then you'd be like Jim Carrey's here to save the scene and that was not the case he actually
Starting point is 00:42:07 comes down a bit to live in the same stupid world I mean he has a couple of like one-liners that are like you know like fun
Starting point is 00:42:17 but I was kind of also waiting to cringe yeah really hard yeah that's what I was talking
Starting point is 00:42:25 about earlier I was expecting some cringe and I did which what what cringe you out at the Flossen yeah and then the Flossen redux
Starting point is 00:42:34 so that's because that's because Sonic's out of touch and because we're out of touch no I think by the time the animators were putting that
Starting point is 00:42:44 into the movie relevance was still high in fact come to think of it when did Shazam come out not come out last summer I think it was a year ago okay
Starting point is 00:42:56 I want to say Shazam came out last summer early to that because Shazam had Flossen right and this movie was supposed to come out last
Starting point is 00:43:06 like what September yeah although where Flossen would have been closer to its relevance shout outs to that tweet that shows you
Starting point is 00:43:16 the old horrible model as a painted stand-in and then Tyson Hesse being like but it was a it was a fake campaign for marketing though and it's like
Starting point is 00:43:28 that was the dumbest thing to begin with like the idea the idea that it's like this was a fake thing that we're going to spend
Starting point is 00:43:36 money on to drum up I could have bombed the movie outright and it's like if they just went right to the if they went right to the model that they used in the beginning
Starting point is 00:43:44 it would have had nothing but goodwill the entire time yep people would have been a little bit weird about the fur part but ultimately
Starting point is 00:43:52 there's one bit in the movie where would have been fine where I want to say the specter of the nightmare Sonic remains
Starting point is 00:44:00 and it's really fucking awkward because you can't watch it and not know that's what's going on there is a there is a small bit in which Sonic
Starting point is 00:44:13 gets a tiny bomb stuck to his glove in the movie and there is a slapstick sequence in which I was thinking
Starting point is 00:44:27 the exact thing in which they can't figure out how to get the tiny bomb off of his glove yes I was totally yep you're right
Starting point is 00:44:36 and the reason why is because the whole scene must have been acted out and most of it done because it was stuck to his hand I was totally
Starting point is 00:44:44 so that 100% occurred to me when I watched it and then I immediately forgot about it right but it's like this scene mixed he's got a
Starting point is 00:44:52 like a Carl Looney Tunes glove on just shit like just bullet ah done yeah but then we would have
Starting point is 00:45:00 had to see his gross yeah hand like honestly like I don't really have any complaints I just kind of wish it was funnier
Starting point is 00:45:09 like I just wish the jokes landed a little bit better but there's not you know it's a it's a vague well there's
Starting point is 00:45:17 there's two things for that it's like no it's not it's no Pixar movie in terms of laughs how tight those
Starting point is 00:45:25 those laughs are but it would have hit harder for you if you were one a child or two a big Sonic fan
Starting point is 00:45:33 but a good example in those Pixar movies is that those are children's movies where they're still legitimately hilarious right like I don't think
Starting point is 00:45:41 I know that like a lot of what you're supposed to expect if you're like it's a children's movie is definitely like the broad
Starting point is 00:45:49 and it's a good way to deflect criticism of something that sucks ass right but in this case it doesn't suck ass no it doesn't
Starting point is 00:45:57 it's fine to slightly above average but there are examples of children's movies where I'm like that was fucking hilarious
Starting point is 00:46:05 and so I'm just simply commenting on that now being aware to say that it is fine to slightly above that movie we might actually
Starting point is 00:46:13 go see it again because wow you really like it there was a bunch of stuff in it that just tickles it's something
Starting point is 00:46:21 it's like okay you reflect on your side there is a throwaway bit about Carl in the Blue Devil that they go back
Starting point is 00:46:29 to a couple times that fucking cracked me up I absolutely love everything about that fucking weird character and I hope that
Starting point is 00:46:37 character like I'm in the part point where this man I'm like man I hope he gets more lines in the sequel
Starting point is 00:46:45 because that would be great that would be right just all the yeah no that there's a lot
Starting point is 00:46:53 those are bits that you could go back to and revisit for a good shit and I'm actually sitting in the theater going oh wow
Starting point is 00:47:02 they got that dumb meme in hooray and then I clap sure yep obviously we wanted to see
Starting point is 00:47:11 slightly darker memes get in there yeah well but we you know shadows not picking up a gun
Starting point is 00:47:19 I'm talking about Sonic's weird balls dude okay well also James James Marsden get with it James Marsden
Starting point is 00:47:27 as fine as it was he also doesn't feel like a real person he is like so you saw those modern
Starting point is 00:47:35 he's a reincarnated David Hasselhoff on Baywatch you saw those those photos of like how a cartoon sidekick in the car
Starting point is 00:47:43 road trip is like a whole genre yes one of which is actually also with James Marsden yes he is like
Starting point is 00:47:51 the the the platonic ideal of that person in that he's not the shadow on the cave he's like
Starting point is 00:48:00 the ideal image in that he is like not a human he is he's idealist not enough of a human
Starting point is 00:48:08 to exist in the planet mm-hmm but he is obviously he is the the transformer Shia LaBeouf
Starting point is 00:48:16 to hang out with Bumblebee sure so that Sonic can have a character to talk to and who is normal yes he's NPC man
Starting point is 00:48:24 yes totally and you feel that the whole way through and that him and his wife are the fucking ad vehicles
Starting point is 00:48:32 really adds to that to the point where even when like his conflict in his in his story you don't believe it
Starting point is 00:48:40 for a second yeah you're like he's gonna be fine he's gonna be there's not even remotely anything troubling
Starting point is 00:48:48 there's there's a moment where he looks at a television and essentially sees that his entire life is over basically and
Starting point is 00:48:56 and he goes we'll figure it out yeah exactly what I mean like you're like oh weird
Starting point is 00:49:04 yeah okay this is all really bad nah it's gonna be fine it'll be fine we'll figure it out once we get your rings buddy
Starting point is 00:49:13 and you know what they got some some nods obviously nods to the games not overly doing it with the soundtrack surprisingly the soundtrack was
Starting point is 00:49:21 there were two game game remix sound they kept it restrained on that which they didn't have to
Starting point is 00:49:29 you know and the second one the end of the movie which is a nice piano remix of yeah like I'll admit I was like
Starting point is 00:49:37 oh that's really nice and they found some really they found some really good excuses to do sonic adventure stuff like a bunch of levels
Starting point is 00:49:46 from sonic adventure yeah locations and even like military general people yeah right you found a way to work
Starting point is 00:49:55 all of that stuff into this as well so it's like okay you're grabbing your pieces here and there and you're making it all
Starting point is 00:50:03 um there was there's a there's a point in the in the game she's in the
Starting point is 00:50:11 in the movie where sonic pulls out like an ancient map to look at and I want to get a screen capture
Starting point is 00:50:19 of that ancient map because every single thing on it was like a thing hey
Starting point is 00:50:27 do you want to go here to the point where one of the things is like a sphere stages are their own motherfucking planets
Starting point is 00:50:35 I mean so so if you're making a movie nowadays and you don't want to over commit you do that right so one map
Starting point is 00:50:43 you get that moment of like just like here's the fucking open possibilities but don't worry about that right you hit the
Starting point is 00:50:51 you hit the basement in in cabin in the woods yeah so to speak so um anyway
Starting point is 00:50:59 that's yeah otherwise though and for a second this is I was a little confused about the idea that rings are they travel you
Starting point is 00:51:07 to different planets and I'm like oh wait the bonus stages that's totally what happened you would jump in the big ring at the end of the level and you go to
Starting point is 00:51:15 the fucking planet exactly yeah okay yeah sure totally super established um fun
Starting point is 00:51:23 yeah like you know like fun fun you know what's fucking awesome these days honestly rings are peak
Starting point is 00:51:31 and ever for me ever since um ever since I remember Iron Man 1 opening credits I was like
Starting point is 00:51:40 I want to get into titles like I legitimately wanted to get into titles as a potential career yeah because that type of stuff is so much fun
Starting point is 00:51:50 and there's been so many good ones in a lot of movies recently that you almost you just forget them yeah you know but they're killer
Starting point is 00:51:58 there's there's two things because both the intro and the ending were one the credit the ending credit sequence like the fan like you have the fancy one
Starting point is 00:52:07 with all the important people on cast just the voice actors and the director and all that um before you get your your
Starting point is 00:52:15 your teaser stinger for the next movie uh which are great by the way they're I was very happy with both of them uh they has fucking
Starting point is 00:52:23 scanlines on the on your ending credits yep the sequence like they went through the trouble of putting scanlines over that fucking
Starting point is 00:52:31 sequence yeah but the the Sega's new movie logo where they go yo okay so you know
Starting point is 00:52:40 how Marvel started out really really shy yeah and then slowly built up a confidence till their logo
Starting point is 00:52:48 became that big 15 second or 20 seconds zoom in on different movie moments ah and then you get the stand version
Starting point is 00:52:56 and then like the final one for like endgame was a minute long yeah right like
Starting point is 00:53:04 Sega Sega went right right away right to the highest confidence and I it was it was
Starting point is 00:53:12 so confident that I got confused because it it's it's it's
Starting point is 00:53:20 it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's
Starting point is 00:53:28 it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's
Starting point is 00:53:52 it's 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:28,640 that happened, was it a Japanese movie? You've got no Gotoku or whatever, like a dragon. Japanese movie? Is totally a full feature-length Japanese film. Of course it is, yes. Directed by fucking Takeshi Mike.
Starting point is 00:54:39 There you go. And it's terrible. Yeah, you didn't even have to tell me that. But I was like, that's the type of thing where I'm like, of course that exists as a Japanese movie, why wouldn't it? There's a bit where Majima leans in a hallway, past the edge of a thing to see, but he's doing it with the fucking eyepatch side.
Starting point is 00:54:57 Yeah. And listen, we're not going to live in a world... We're going to sit here and think like, oh man, though, Space Channel 5 movie, that's going to happen in this lifetime. Get the fuck out of here. All right, so everyone, I want to put it down that Woolly has now said that a Space Channel 5 movie
Starting point is 00:55:21 is not going to happen. I would love to see a fucking Space Channel 5 movie. What I'm trying to say is that the obscure franchises that we like are not, they don't have big budget power to move to the fucking big screen. Not like Sonic. Right?
Starting point is 00:55:43 Not unless they combined in a Wreck-It Ralph kind of way. Where you're like, oh, look, there's Chuchu Rocket in the background. Then yeah, totally, right? But on their own? Can we get Sonic having like a Dreamcast in his little hedgehog cave on the sequel? Think about how hype everybody got
Starting point is 00:56:04 that even bothered to watch the, what is it? I think it's like Sega Girls. Yeah. Sega Girls or Gaga Girls or whatever. Or they hang out with Jeffrey McWile. And they hang out with Jeffrey McWile. And we're like, yo, that's Jeffrey McWile.
Starting point is 00:56:16 Then they're just hanging out with him. And we're like, yeah. And all he does is, ah, ah, ah. Right? It's so fucking weird. Totally. And you're like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:24 This random little obscure short anime thing like pulled in a Virtua Fighter reference. Like, fuck off with thinking. Like, just let it, it's a logo, you know? But yes. So the Sonic movie is average to good, depending on your Sonic taste, I'll say. Right?
Starting point is 00:56:41 Boy. And it's doing well too. It's doing quite well. Doing better than Detective Pikachu. Detective Pikachu also came out in a really fucked up, busy movie season, which I think it came out alongside Light and Game. Yeah, what else is out right now?
Starting point is 00:56:53 Nothing. Go see Parasite. Okay. Is that in theaters? I think they got it. Yeah, they got it in theaters. Okay. So Parasite and Sonic together.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Oh, Birds of Prey. That's right. Oh, that's right. Sonic is ruining Birds of Prey. Did you see that? Ha ha ha. I went to a Sonic movie with my family. I was shocked at the amount of racist and homophobic slurs.
Starting point is 00:57:16 Someone grabbed my crib and did a stone cold stutter on it, dashed my baby on the rocks. They poured Steve Weiser all over my child. Thank goodness there was a new child for me in the Birds of Prey theater next door. So I went there and claimed it. You know my favorite one of those fucking movies is my favorite one.
Starting point is 00:57:37 I fell asleep during the Sonic movie and woke up to see my three boys were no longer in the theater. I found them in the next door, Birds of Prey theater. Oh, thank goodness. And I'm like, that it's like because it's it's it's like kind of realm within the believability. And it's like, it's not like, oh, man, Sonic's dropping hate speech.
Starting point is 00:57:58 I was trying. I was trying to enjoy the Sonic movie. But I was like, I'm not sure. I'm trying to enjoy the Sonic movie. But as soon as I entered, I heard the hedgehog shouting full-throated N words at me right on the screen, full-throated, full-throated. Full-throated N words.
Starting point is 00:58:19 What does that mean? That means with that with minimum hesitation. Oh, OK. Maximum stage voice. It's not like bubbling out like, oh, you look around. Hard R stage voice. Wow. Deaking from the stomach.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Was Sonic singing along to rap music? And you know, no, no, no, there was no music in sight. And I thank God. He just called Robotnik a full-throated N word. Thank God. There was a Birds of Prey screening right next door with clean seats, very clean seats. Is Birds of Prey even playing at our local movie theater?
Starting point is 00:59:03 It is. The problem is you have to make sure to look up H for Harley Quinn Birds of Prey, because it's been renamed. Are you serious? Oh, yeah. So are you serious? So when it came out, when it came out, the title of the movie was Birds of Prey,
Starting point is 00:59:19 which do you remember when I was talking about the posters for it? Yeah. So the posters came out and there, you were like, you wouldn't be aware of what the fucking name of the movie was because of the fact that she was front and center, and it's almost like there wasn't a whole crew. But the original movie was Birds of Prey and the fantabulous emancipation of one Harley Quinn.
Starting point is 00:59:42 All right, which is a terrible name. And then after it didn't do well, they renamed it to Harley Quinn Birds of Prey. And her Birds of Prey. And her Birds of Prey, yes. Now, here's the thing about it, right? Full disclosure, I've heard that it's probably their best since Wonder Woman Act one and two.
Starting point is 01:00:03 Sure. Because at the very least, it's like coming in, doing the Deadpool, hard R. Sure. And they play into that in a really good way. Well, if that's the case, then. It's just, word of mouth is not traveling in such a way that people are bothering to go with.
Starting point is 01:00:18 If that's the case, then this movie was totally failed by its advertising because every time I've looked at this thing, it looks like a fucking piece of shit. Also, right, Deadpool from the jump was hard R the first time around. It sure was. This seems like a sequel to Suicide Squad, which nobody wants to go see.
Starting point is 01:00:38 So even though you're playing it completely differently, it's not the fuck is DC doing? I mean, they're doing the only thing they can do, which is don't create a cinematic universe. But they did. But then they stopped. But you can't undo that. You can't, but you can just keep making new things
Starting point is 01:00:55 that have nothing to do with it. Yeah, but that takes a bit to decouple. But they're doing it because it is a sequel to Suicide Squad. But it's because Margot Robbie's there. Yeah. But everything else is kind of whatever. You have to change the actors all the way down the line. You can't.
Starting point is 01:01:09 And they're already doing screen tests with Robbie Pattinson. Yeah. So they're definitely trying to decouple the connections. And we already know that Shazam is on its own. Yeah. So that's probably for the best, because your quality is just way too up and down on the barometer, usually down. But in any case, all this to say is that the legacy
Starting point is 01:01:35 of previous DC movies, apparently from what I hear and the previous version and the previous movie that this came from, is like hampering the fact that this is actually not that bad if you go crab it as a superhero movie. But there's just too much back in it. So I got to say, the discussion of Sonic dropping hard Rs, moving into calling Suicide Squad,
Starting point is 01:02:01 fucking Harley Quinn and her Birds of Prey a hard R movie, is throwing my brain. Because what I think you're saying is that Harley Quinn is dropping hard R. Throated. Right? Like it's there. These two conversations were throated and we're too close
Starting point is 01:02:18 together. Anyway, so I want to I do want to catch that just to see like because just to see. Well, for one thing. No, but like, yeah, I'm I'll check it out once it hits some kind of streaming service because like I want to know. And are they going to then do the the re-release of the PG version because they're like, dear God, too much money on the table.
Starting point is 01:02:45 Fuck off. That's cowardly as shit. It is. But Deadpool did it because they couldn't they couldn't stop themselves. They were too scared. They're like, no, there's too much money. Christmas, go see it again with your kids.
Starting point is 01:02:59 So I have a thought and it was the thought that I had walking out and if they made money, they're right to do it. I had a thought walking out of Sonic and that was, boy, it sure would be great if there was a Sonic game coming out this entire year, but there isn't. That's weird, isn't it? There isn't even a semi-recent Sonic game. I think the last like is the last Sonic game that came out
Starting point is 01:03:31 like either the Olympics or Sonic Mania like two years ago. Yeah, there's nothing for them to really latch on to. But there is a really cool looking fan game that yeah, I saw that I plan to take a look at Sonic will. Sorry, Sonic, Sonic will kill it soon. Sonic Robo Blast 2. Yeah, looks fucking incredible. But otherwise, I'm the official France.
Starting point is 01:04:00 Yeah, I think we should all acknowledge that because many people went and saw Sonic on Valentine's Day and then went home and screwed that we're going to see in one to five years a new explosion of Sonic shit of the Sonic Generations is what they'll be called, but or Sonic Boomers, whichever you prefer. Wow, I said the first and all credit to one peach saliva came up with the Sonic Boomers. Wow, that's that's that's that is off podcast writing.
Starting point is 01:04:44 Yeah, to bring to the script to bring the script. Yeah, that's like a writer wrote it, but you just came out like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because of course, because it's about Sonic. But yeah, no, the Sonic creep town shit fest, I assume will only grow in power now that young Christian children are being brought to see Sonic on Valentine's Day. I mean, in the meantime, like Mario's about to get a theme park. So it's like, you know, did you have a thought watching the movie
Starting point is 01:05:14 that you wish that you were in watching the movie in 1994 and seeing what the hell they would have had to do? Just like a puppet. No, I would know, but I had that thought. But I was wishing it was 2004 to that would have been way worse. That is where because 1994 means you might still get some animatronic. It'd be a Muppet interesting like like like it would be terrible. Yeah, but then they'd go behind the scenes and they'd be like,
Starting point is 01:05:43 we built a functioning robot that can walk and roll and act. And the skin suit that we put over it is horrifying. It's bad. Look how amazing this robot is, right? That's 1994, 2004. It's just the shittiest CG you can possibly be identical movie. It would just be horrifying, just just like shiny and terrible. Sub reboot CG somehow when they when whenever he goes to touch him, whenever the human touches Sonic, his hand clips through the fucking 3D model.
Starting point is 01:06:15 There was a real there was a real concerted effort in the film to for characters to never touch Sonic ever. Did you notice that? Yeah. Yeah. Sonic interacts with humans, but humans are just not allowed to touch Sonic under any circumstance. Why fly close to the sun? Yeah, when your wings are made of wax. Well, it's good that they it's good that they shot it like that,
Starting point is 01:06:40 because if they had to do that and then change the model on top of it, I can only imagine what a fucking nightmare that would have been. But yeah, anyway, that's where that lies, you know. So I like Sonic again, I'm back on Sonic for the time being. Would you like it if the game? The immediate the next game you get and, in fact, a whole new branch of games were movie Sonic based. Oh, that'd be completely fine.
Starting point is 01:07:09 Because the movie Sonic is really just splitting the difference between give John Ralfio some it's splitting the difference between Sonic one and two and three because you see some three stuff in there and Sonic Adventure one and two. And now boom just goes goes away. Boom goes and lives on the TV where where where needs to live. Yeah, I mean, the fact that I still like the fact that there's all those boom jokes that still get clipped in and like, I'm like, yo, boom's funny, man. Yeah, it's great.
Starting point is 01:07:38 You know, don't make don't make that go away. That's funny. I'm I do fear a future in which Sonic. Oh, I'm glad we learned this word a few weeks ago. Sonic secondary material, i.e. the comics, the films and the cartoons now have a way better batting average than Sonic. Yep. And it's not like a little. Yeah, it's enormous.
Starting point is 01:08:07 No, and those comics have been strong for a long time, literally for years. Yeah. Yeah, I saw that. The guy who makes the comics pitched a Mario comic and Nintendo wanted nothing to do with it. That would have been great. Would have been great. That would have been great.
Starting point is 01:08:22 He did great for by Mega Man. It was such a shame that that didn't work out. But yeah, yeah, the secondary material. I mean, I'm average. I only saw Sonic acts a couple of times. It seemed fine, inoffensive, I guess. But like you compare that to the fucking raw stinkers that have come out like Sonic Adventure and Sonic Adventure, too.
Starting point is 01:08:44 Could it be that the problem with Sonic is Team Sonic? Yes. The best Sonic game in the past 15 years was made by no one in Team Sonic. It was Sonic Mania, which fans. Yeah, everyone else. Yeah, I beat Sonic Mania once. And all I could think of is, God damn, I wish this was Sonic 4.
Starting point is 01:09:09 It had come out in 2000. And I would have I would have learned to speedrun that game. You know, like everyone, everyone is doing right by Sonic, except for the people tasked with making it officially. I can't wait for the next game to be like Sonic gets back with the lease and they go on a on a we can save swords and sorcery adventure. No, we can save Marie. We can do it.
Starting point is 01:09:35 We can bring it back. I don't even remember who that is. That's that's the human from Shadows. Shadows thing. That's the shadow shadows trying to save Marie all the time. OK, so shadows trying to save Marie and Sonic made it with the lease. Maria. No, her name's Elise.
Starting point is 01:09:52 No, no, yeah, no. Oh, Maria is Maria. Yeah, OK, is is. Oh, is that the that's the promise I made to you, Maria, or whatever the fuck the shadows talking about Maria. Yeah. Human makeouts. I want to see.
Starting point is 01:10:12 OK, one last thing about Sonic. I'm so happy. I I called exactly why they were going to use his nickname and they're they used his nickname a lot, Robotniks, I mean. So that's going to be ongoing. They fixed that problem. Fucking thank God. Didn't call him Eva, though.
Starting point is 01:10:30 No, call him Eggman. Yeah. And I want him in a fat suit next time around. I want Jim Carrey in a fucking egg shaped fucking fat suit. Oh, he'll get there. He's going to do him. He's going to do up like Christian Bale. Yeah, he's going to fucking pack him on and it'll be the role
Starting point is 01:10:50 of a lifetime where it's like Jim Carrey gets obese, morbidly obese because he has to look like a fucking egg to pull on the role. Yeah, of well, yeah, yeah. So, hey, like if if Bale can go from the machinist to Batman to Dick Cheney, yeah, then I think Carrey can put on a few. The Sonic the Sonic movie franchise has a real bright future ahead of it, but it runs into a different problem where it's boy, I actually cannot wait to see more of Sonic's friends show up in the Sonic movie franchise
Starting point is 01:11:29 right up until Amy. And then Amy, I hope she steps out of a portal, gets hit by a truck and dies and no one mentions it. I think I don't think we're going to get that far. I don't know. I think we're total. I think I think we'll make it to Knuckles first. OK, OK, OK, here's the thing. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Right. Now, this is where the confidence.
Starting point is 01:11:56 Let's not like like spend too much time or time. But like I think this is where the confidence is going to show is in your sequel. How many more do you bring? Is it one? Is it one? Or is it if one shows supreme confidence in a step by step plan to get where we want to go? Is it two way less confidence, right? Is it any more or more anything more than two?
Starting point is 01:12:20 If it's two plus, we have no confidence like this. The last Sonic movie guys. That's that's that's exactly if tails, knuckles and fucking shadow step out of a portal. This is the last movie you're ever going to see. If if the if Espio blaze and Charmy, yeah, start fucking showing up. Yeah, it's done. Yeah, it's just wrap it up.
Starting point is 01:12:47 All right, it's over. So my one last question for everyone to percolate on if Tails is in the next movie, will we get Tails's famous cartoon meme face from Tails gets trolled? I goddamn hope so, so much. And two, if knuckles ever appears in this movie franchise, it will be at least two years from now, right? At the very least, minimum, which will put it like almost what
Starting point is 01:13:18 for five years away. Will there be a Ugandan knuckles gag? Fuck no, I think they would never I think. Listen, listen, here's what they will do. They will give Tails a very clear reaction face. OK, because did you notice, by the way? OK, you've seen Teen Titans go before. I have. You noticed when the show is creating gifts?
Starting point is 01:13:45 Yes, on purpose, on purpose. They're creating gifts, right? They'll cut to moments. This movie did that. Yeah. It did it and it left the screen static, like at least twice that I can think of where they're like, please give it. Held it, right? Yeah. And one of them in particular was a like mouth, a gape.
Starting point is 01:14:07 Yeah. Oh, right. Type of face, because it's like you want that moment screen shot. Now, knowing how that like that, how how dank they're willing to get. Yes, they'll definitely give Tails a face like that. That's not a problem. Just the toll tails get knuckles would fucking never do anything like that. Here's what he would do. He's going to say, oh, no, more than once.
Starting point is 01:14:29 Yeah, you're right. And at one point, he will say something to the effect of, yeah, I'll show you the way. OK. And it'll be the most normal understated. Or this is the way or something like that. And it'll and it'll be the most normal understated line period. And that's the most you're going to get. Or shut up. Fuck you.
Starting point is 01:14:53 No, I'm going a different track here. I would also be happy with a moment in which knuckles is talking to the rest of the cast and remarks on how weird it is that none of them have nipples. While eating an enchilada. It would be funny if there's a joke that's made and everyone's laughing and then he starts to laugh, but then stops himself. Mm hmm.
Starting point is 01:15:26 There's so much. This is this is the weirdest like get excited for a movie ever because it's got this ocean of dank, dank memory behind it. And all I want to see, I want to see them go as deep as possible, especially on the really old and now lame shit. I wanted more cringe, honestly. You wanted more of a train wreck. I wanted more cringe.
Starting point is 01:15:52 You wanted more of a train wreck. Yeah. Yeah. I know, not a train wreck. I just went, oh, my God, I can't believe I did that one so embarrassing. I feel like enough people watch this over and over and over that they managed to slice all of that out. You know, it's on the cutting room floor. Yeah, you know, it's there. See, following Tyson Hesse's Twitter account lately has been really funny.
Starting point is 01:16:16 Him posting the fucking Olive Garden Zone. Sure. Screenshot. I didn't see that. Oh, man, it's good. It's good. Yeah. Anyway, wait for the Snyder cut. No, the Snyder cut for the Snyder cut. That'll have gone to Knuckles in it was cut because it didn't resonate with audiences.
Starting point is 01:16:33 Why is Knuckles talk with this weird accent the whole movie? Why is the entire soundtrack just pop music like full, full lyric? Like straight up dropped on top. I know there's a lot of things that we can make fun of Snyder for, but the one that always is the first to come out of my mouth is hey, why have a movie score? Just grab pop music from the sixties and throw it in your movie. You don't have to be that old.
Starting point is 01:17:00 Well, I always I always think of Watchmen because that's the one. Watchmen is the. Yeah, but it's fucking crazy. Oh, but, you know, I mean, let's never forget. Let's never forget the name I forgot. That's good. It's fucking the girls and the girls, the music videos and the music video. The baby doll was there. Rocket Punch Rock. That's the studio. That's the.
Starting point is 01:17:23 No, sucker punch, sucker punch. Name of a studio, name of a movie, name of how you felt. Yes, when you saw it. Yes. Do you remember when when I when I sat you guys down and I'm like, hey, did you notice that they ripped off the entire Final Fantasy 13 trailer and just made it a scene in this movie? Why didn't he just release four music videos because that's not a feature film? That's not my art.
Starting point is 01:17:47 It would have been so much cooler. So if people don't know the train scene and sucker punch is like a blatantly plagiarized recreation of one of the early Final Fantasy 13 trailers in which they are fighting on a train. If I watched the scene where without context, a girl with a sword fought against a giant samurai with a gatling gun. Yeah. Oh, Mecca, the samurai with a gatling gun. I would have clapped. You would have.
Starting point is 01:18:15 I did clap at the trailer. I remember clapped. But then the moment, you know, the context, it ruins all of that. It's all in their minds when they're trying to steal a key. And then Don Draper shows up and you're just like, what the fuck are we doing? What is this? Anyway. Yeah, I'm waiting for the Snyder cut of sucker punch sucker. God damn it. You know, I'm surprised that like no one's gone back and even done what we put.
Starting point is 01:18:46 Well, I just said where they just were like, here's four music videos. Watch them and ignore the rest. I would love to see that movie cut in half and watch each half and see if it's better. No, no, it's just cut to the four. Yeah, I know, but I'm saying I would love to even eat halves. You need quarters. OK, all right. Anyway, that was my week. I watched Sonic and I love Sonic.
Starting point is 01:19:10 OK, so I watched Sonic 2 and I had thoughts about Sonic. Do you love Sonic? No. Would you help Sonic get rid of his weird ball disease? Not if I have to touch it. You would have to touch it. No. All right. I like Sonic. Yeah, OK. But not like that. I did not. I don't love Sonic, but I like Sonic. OK.
Starting point is 01:19:28 And I walked out of there going, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is a better review than I would give almost any video game movie I've ever seen, especially in a theater. You know, you know what? My highest review for a game movie would ever be. Yeah. Postal. But only if you watch it with Uwe Boll in the front row. Yeah. Mm hmm.
Starting point is 01:19:50 That's that was great. That was very important. But it's unlikely you're going to be able to watch Postal with Uwe Boll. So, yeah. Also, I was a little bit worried that they were going to they were going to blow their load on like. Well, let's just say that like when Sonic has like his like running fast energy stuff that like I was going to I was a bit worried
Starting point is 01:20:21 that they were going to make that like turn into other things. Yeah. And like they didn't go to. They got they got to go somewhere with the seat. You got to you got to you got to leave some. Yeah, you got to leave some breadcrumbs, I suppose. But anyway. So that was you. OK. That was me. What's up with you, man?
Starting point is 01:20:38 So I did that. I watched uncut gems. OK. Do you know what that is? I have no idea. Which is why I want to look it up as you're talking uncut gems is the Netflix movie starring Adam Sandler that unlike the other recent random apparently dog shit Adam Sandler movies, this is him doing a serious role. That's where that fucking that's where he looks like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:01 He is the most like extreme. He's a he is a like a jeweler on in New York's Diamond District. Yeah, he's playing this like like a certain type of like a certain type of like Jewish man that like is kind of, you know, working in this kind of area and like he's going crazy into like this kind of like I'm a scumbag diamond dealer. Yeah, the jacket in the sunglasses tipped me off. And this is his other sort of like,
Starting point is 01:21:40 all right, this might not be a traditional Adam Sandler movie. Yeah, but like the more you kind of go into it, you you you really watch this journey as like it's not it's obviously not what you think it is. But like there and there's still funny parts of it, I guess I should say, but like this is where all the cringe I was hoping or expecting to feel in Sonic actually landed in uncut gems. Great. And that's just great.
Starting point is 01:22:18 And like it. There's you. I all right, I'm going to stop you right here. I'm going to ask you a couple of questions making a lot of noises. Is it a serious movie? It's a serious movie. Is it a drama thriller? What do we got? What's the genre?
Starting point is 01:22:36 I guess I would good, good, good. That's a good sign. Yeah, I guess I would say like. Unsettling heist. OK. Crime crime, crime thriller, crime thriller, crime thriller. Does it succeed as the genre you struggled to label it? Not only does it succeed. OK.
Starting point is 01:22:59 I can't remember the last time I felt film anxiety, OK, on this level. This movie is stress like like like the movies trying to make you stress. Yes, OK. And it succeeds. It succeeds in making you feel lots and lots of stress because every decision leads to another more terrifying potentially worse option. OK. And it just continues to fork downwards, but you keep forking.
Starting point is 01:23:35 It's not just like a path down. It always branches and there's two options. There's now even worse decisions to be made. Oh, man, it's tiring. OK. But it's super good. OK. And I was having a real struggle figuring out where that part of this conversation was going to go. It's super good and really worth it to watch because,
Starting point is 01:23:58 yeah, there's I haven't seen a movie that made me feel that way. I in quite some time, if ever. And, you know, obviously, he does a fantastic job playing a character that looks nothing remotely similar to Adam Sandler, him or anything he's done. And. Yeah. And he just and you know what it is, here's what it is. Here's what it is.
Starting point is 01:24:22 You know how Jason Bateman did Ozark? Yes. And then you got Breaking Bad and you got these movies and you got sorry, these series where it's like this character was it I said, yeah, yeah. So you got you got these movies where it's like this character is doing a weird like it's not breakout role, but like a weird role compared to what you usually expect of them. Yeah. Descending down this fucking bad decision after bad decision.
Starting point is 01:24:54 You know, wrote a road to perdition. Yeah. Right. And then like this is basically like the Adam Sandler Breaking Bad multi part series. OK, that is all put into one film. Right. Where he imagine if Adam Sandler, I definitely didn't think I was going to hear that today. Yeah. So it's like it's like it's this in the same way that you would get this like the journey of Walter White, you know, and the and like the
Starting point is 01:25:20 jury and like Ozark and everything about and just like like going down this crime fucking route, you know, and how bad it gets and like lots of moments of oh, fuck, lots of that. This is his version of that almost in in concentrated into one film. Really good dramatic role and have Adam Sandler such a good actor. Why does he make all the poo poo garbage? Because money. But he's already fabulously wealthy.
Starting point is 01:25:49 But this is easy. Oh, and he gets to do it with his friends. Oh, it's true. And Netflix doesn't care. They're like, yeah, dude, it's true. Because guess what? Everyone watched them. That's true. Like if he makes a stinker with his friends for no effort and everyone clicks play on it, he's like, yeah, mission accomplished. Netflix goes. Thanks.
Starting point is 01:26:11 Do you want some more? And he's like, yes, please. And then he goes and he makes a movie like this and goes, yeah, I could still do it if I wanted to. If I cared, yeah, try all the time, then I could do this. And he's like, yeah, you could. What's that? The Harrison Ford problem? Just whether or not the actor cares, you know, it's all right there.
Starting point is 01:26:32 He proves in one fucking heart, like one solid film. He's like, yeah, I can do this. Yeah. But I don't feel like it. So feel like it today. And then he goes and does his like, you know, he has a stand-up musical special and a bunch of other clunkers and whatever. And he's like, yeah, I'm just getting paid, man, whatever. But it's good. It's good. Go watch that.
Starting point is 01:26:53 Watch that and and give your give your angina some space. You know, I don't like that. Yeah, I don't like that at all. So there's that. Stress. OK, stress. I don't need that. Big, big stress. It's good. It's good. So what else? There was.
Starting point is 01:27:19 Oh, yeah, of course, there's doom. Yes. So where are you at in doom? I'm pretty much one session from the end. OK, did you get this? Did you go back to hell and see the big boy? I fought the big boy. No. Did you see? I saw the big boy. Yeah, that's I fought the boy that that moment.
Starting point is 01:27:36 You just walk into the level and see what a fucking sky scrap size demon. Well, I remember. So I see you see a hand. Then I was like, oh, Satan's designing his edgy like hell with the with that landscape looking like body parts. Yeah. No, that's not what that is. You're like, oh, and then it's like, yeah, guess what? That was you.
Starting point is 01:28:00 That was you a little bit before you did that. Anyway, I did that. It was me. Oh, that's crazy. So, yeah, yeah, I saw that did that. God damn, what a fucking good game. Is that just incredible? What a fucking and you find the fucking secret like the secret missions.
Starting point is 01:28:23 Yep. Just go right in back into those old texture worlds. Oh, man. Unfortunately, when you play back through them themselves, they're not that fantastic. Oh, I mean, the one because there's two when you find them. There's two that I would mention. One is like the old texture world movie things. And then there are ones that are like DMC style secret missions,
Starting point is 01:28:42 which is like, oh, get to the end of the level without hitting the floor. Yes. So I beat all of them. Yeah. But great. Yeah. The last one took quite a few tries. Which one is the last one? The last one was survive the wave of enemies using. Was it a rocket launcher only?
Starting point is 01:29:02 Yeah. OK. That's yeah. With one health. Yeah. Don't splash. I think it was rocket launcher only one health and survival wave, including Pinky, whatever, like Baron of Hell and like the whole game. Kako. Yeah. Yeah, something like that. Man, as you upgrade guns in that game,
Starting point is 01:29:27 problems just don't appear like you are so overpowered. It's crazy, isn't it? Great. Yeah, you're daunting. You believe it. You're you're daunting, like hard. They've shown off do maternal stuff and you've gained not just a double jump, but you have an air dash now that can go in any direction. So have fun. It's it's it and they the Super Shotgun has a devil bringer.
Starting point is 01:29:52 Yeah, the like it's and I feel like those those weapon upgrades, the attachments and then like the final thing you get for them is often you're like, man, you know, it'd be great if like, oh, yeah, if the shotgun became relevant again. Oh, well, hey, that was right there. Oh, yeah, I did. Oh, great. Oh, man, this siege mode is the fucking shit. Oh, how fucking cool would it be if I of course you can move?
Starting point is 01:30:16 Thanks. You know, and what's really fun about those is the final upgrade on all of these guns is a challenge you have to unlock. Yeah. So it's like, get all the points, put them in, but the last one accomplish a goal and then you get the reward, you know. So replaying it to get all that stuff has been a blast. It's it's that game is incredible. Every enemy has a certain, like, like optimal way to kind of deal with them.
Starting point is 01:30:44 And like when they're coming at you at the same time, you got to kind of like break and pick better strategies and, you know, choose when you want to chainsaw. So much fun. Not only is like there was a there was a two fold thing playing that game on release and it depended on how how like crazy you already were about the Doom series, because I got ahold of and watch some old footage of the original Doom 4 builds way back. And but when it was hell on earth and also you watch the E3 presentation of that
Starting point is 01:31:16 and they look like fucking garbage. Wow. Like do you remember Bethesda showing off Doom, the current Doom 2016? What was the paint attention? It looked like shit. And it was the same levels and it was the same game. But it was slower. The glory kills were slower and the person playing it sucked ass. Wait, I remember you guys hating what you saw. Yeah, because it was you remember it was that whole fucking
Starting point is 01:31:40 that whole rigmarole of we showed it off, but you can't see it because it was only for quite gone. Right. Yes. Yes. And then they showed it off. You're like, this looks like shit. Yes, I remember that now. Yes. So then the game actually came out and you play and you press start and rip and tear and oh, oh, it's awesome. Yeah. So it's not just that it was great. It's that you expected garbage and got something great.
Starting point is 01:32:02 Also, the way you guys talked about it, set my expectations up for something completely different, which is like the way like you guys always reference the part where like the beginning of the move of the thing is like, here's the plot of the story and do guys like get that shit out of my face. But it doesn't keep doing that. No, there is still a story. There's still a story, but he resents his involvement and and make sure to unhook the Argent energy and then turn it off and carefully extract. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:35 No, stop breaking it. Whatever you do, don't break the next one. Yeah. Please. And Samuel Hayden, a.k.a. Optimus Prime. Yeah. What a cool voice. What a cool voice. Yeah. They get they do a good job surrounding you with an extremely hateable cast. Everyone in that game is complete garbage.
Starting point is 01:32:58 Completely hateable cast of motherfuckers. And as the lore slowly drops, you're just like, wow, like, who were the demons? Was it the demons or was it the humans? It was the demons. And then these humans are also dirt. You know, and and seeing some of the stuff coming up for like the new eternal like press stuff.
Starting point is 01:33:24 And I'm remembering that trailer of just like, so, yeah, we kind of worked it out and hell's like a thing. And everyone should just accept it and like the movie. And then the magazine cover where it's like demon demon times today. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Or it's like, don't don't don't be a bigot towards demons. Yeah. And also like, why, why the doomslayer owes the demon community an apology. Right. Right.
Starting point is 01:33:47 But my favorite is the top one, which is why the demon, why the doomslayer is only a figment of your imagination and a realization of your own insecurities. It's like he's not real. He can't hurt. He's not really can't hurt you. Could never have been more inappropriate for doom. Yeah. He's so real and he will hurt you. Yeah. So everything, everything that has been like tent polled, I should say, has paid off massively well.
Starting point is 01:34:17 Huge pop offs for everything. BFG is great. Boss fights great. Hell's great. So you're not I'm not familiar with the the level of familiarity you have with the ancient doom lore. Well, you have to remember why he's so angry. I mean, so we touched on it, especially since research, Reggie brought some facts to the table. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:41 And of course, there's the in game lore of in the beginning, yada, yada, yada. Right. But the real shit because they fucked up his rabbit. They fucked up his rabbit, Daisy, and that's it. All of them. How dare you forever? How dare you, John Wick? And you know, it's it's so it's so stupid because it's not real. It's only because of the release dates. But the fact that it's about his pet rabbit actually adds this weird
Starting point is 01:35:12 headcanon credence to him loving animal crossing. Sure. Sure. And hanging out with Isabelle and all those are all those pictures coming out because they they have they are coming out on the same day. OK, that's there are two means that have happened because of that. One is Doom Slayer teaches the cast of Animal Crossing to shoot guns. Yes. And the second is Nero goes up to the desk and asks for Animal Crossing. Curie asks for doom. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:37 And every variation there in. Yeah. So the yeah. So you have all that all that set up is really great. And you even get these little bits where it's like, Motherfucker in the pits of hell, that's a commander keen helmet. It sure is. He made it to hell. Totally made it.
Starting point is 01:36:02 What happened? And I believe he's right next to a Gatling gun. I believe Doom Marine, Doom Slayer, Doom Guy is B.J. Blaskowitz's great, great, great grandson. Is it three greats? I'm not super sure. But they they it is a family business. Yeah. But I thought it was like like just grandkids.
Starting point is 01:36:23 Well, it depends now because when is this game taking place? Super 21 21 something. Yeah, like the family loves to kill demons. Be they human or otherwise. The fucking Dovahkin made it. Fuck him. Yeah. Well, it didn't make it. There's a Pip Boy in there somewhere. And he picks up is like, what a weird little statue.
Starting point is 01:36:46 Oh, yeah. It's a vault, vault guy. Yeah, you pick up a Doom Slayer, a doom toy, and it's just colored like a vault guy. Yeah, that's that's that's true. Yeah, man. No, it's a lot of fun. And yeah, I get it. You know, the the the incredible characterization of a character who is not allowed to speak is fantastic. And there's I mean, I'm at the point to where like there's very little
Starting point is 01:37:12 happening with him in that regard, like it were hours away from him propsing the little toy or from him busting open the Argent energy. Yeah, you know, but there's little fun bits where you're just like, man, Olivia, what a piece of shit, fuck you. You're gonna get it. And then there's like, you know, obviously there's all the church bits, which I'm I'm relishing. I'm sure relishing in all that church stuff.
Starting point is 01:37:34 And then there's even little things where it's like upon replay where because I'm cleaning up the levels and whatever. There's a lot to clean up. Yeah, the last two levels I did, I got them all in the first try. That feels good. It felt very good. I had I got everything in one shot, right? So that was great. But I still went back and did it anyway.
Starting point is 01:37:53 And little bits were like, it went right before Cyber Demon. Yeah, right. When you have the Argent accelerator or the rod. Yeah, OK. And Samuel's like, OK, so the Argent thing is in it's around there somewhere and looks like you're going to have to extract it, you know? And I was like, OK, and then now you're going back, you're like, oh, because it's like extracting it means not pulling it out of a slab.
Starting point is 01:38:24 Yeah, pulling it out of the big boy. Yeah, you know, so that was great. Argent accumulator, that's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All in all, immensely satisfying in that regard. And I can't wait to see what we close on. I can't wait for the finish. The finish is good. And the finish is good.
Starting point is 01:38:47 And the finish is also of, oh, of course, like, of course, this is the finish. Yeah, OK. But and like, I felt stupid not not having seen like, figured it out beforehand. I'm kind of waiting, right? Here's the thing. So, you know how Dante is just like lulling his way to the end of his adventure because he wants the combo, the shit out of everything before
Starting point is 01:39:12 getting in, before solving the problem. That's right. And then usually on the way to solving the problem, there will be another person who is like a good person who's otherwise in over their head. Yeah, then Dante gets serious for a second and goes damn it. Yeah. And then it goes back to solving the problem.
Starting point is 01:39:28 Yeah. I'm kind of waiting for the moment that the demons run away from me because I'm I'm like, it really does feel like I walk in the level and it's such a joke at this point that they should be scampering away on their knees. Yeah. Like I'm like, that's where we're at. Maybe if we throw more at him. You know, it's it's weird because like you find the demon text logs
Starting point is 01:39:59 or whatever the fuck they're called. And there's obviously no more tablets. There's obviously demons that have human intelligence at least. Yeah. I mean, whatever the fuck Olivia is talking to. But but they're not the ones running at Dune Guy. No, right? I can't imagine almost any enemy in the game that you actually run into
Starting point is 01:40:17 even has the capability of speech, right? So they're all morons. Yeah, they don't get it. Again, whatever Olivia is talking to. And ultimately, who cares? Because it's like, like I'm I'm going to guess it's the icon of sin. Right. I don't know. Satan's a bitch.
Starting point is 01:40:34 It's like it can't canonically the devil is John Romero. OK, well, you know, it doesn't really seem to matter that much. And also that little moment in the in Samuel Hayden's office where you see the the fucking doom, you see the Dune Guy armor and then it's flanked on the left and right by like Holy Crusader armor. Yeah. And then they all have the same sigil on them. Yeah. And you're like, OK, and they talked about the power of the Seraphim in one of the Lord Towns. There's a whole there's a whole thing.
Starting point is 01:41:06 Yeah. So you're just like, OK, is Doom Guy like a space marine that's been given the power of angels? Yes. OK. Period. Done. That is absolutely what it is. Done. Great. Because they dance around it. But the general consensus is that doom, the doom slayer is the doom guy. And just doom one, two and expansions were a fucking riot. And eventually these whether they call Praetoria or whatever the fuck
Starting point is 01:41:33 they're called or like, hey, dude, the Praetor armor. Yeah. Hey, dude, you're cool. Get in. And then they sucked ass, too. So, you know, at the end of the day, like, it's just we gave a modern suit of armor to a holy fucking. Yeah. A chosen one. Anyway, it's great. It the the Doom series, I always like to think like what you're talking about going through levels works on
Starting point is 01:42:02 the Metal Gear canon explanation of gameplay. Big Boss and Snake were never seen once. They never killed anyone. They they perfected all the bosses, etc., etc. Right. To line up with the cutscenes. Yeah. The the canon clear time on the on doom 2016 is the speed run. OK, you know, like, OK, I just fucking right through like no problem. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:29 Landing death from above, yeah, all the melee as you possibly can. The one thing I've never had this happen before. And I can't think of any other franchise where it has where it's like, listen, I know that in the old doom games, we saw his face. Yep. But I feel like he's a helmet hero with no face. It's fun. It's it's really interesting that you mentioned that because the developers
Starting point is 01:42:56 took that feedback and in Doom Eternal, his mask is transparent. OK, and you can see his face. And I think at one point they've even shown that he takes the helmet off. And it is totally that dude. Yeah, it is literally that dude with the short brown hair. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who looks just like PJ Blaskowitz. Yeah. And but but he feels like a helmet hero.
Starting point is 01:43:20 Yeah, you know, and you just like his we know like the thing there. It's not a hidden identity. No, why are you Master Chief and Bob of Fett? You know, it's just so weird. One of the little details that is from a game that you are very familiar with from Doom Eternal is that if you kill somebody with a large explosion too close to you, your face will reflect in the in the in the glass. Metroid Prime. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:47 They're it's perfect every time. But instead of Samus's like kind of plastic face, it's doom. You guys go like permanently. It's like really, heaven. That's what you were rolling with here. Yeah, I mean, can you get like unlocks to put it make it the comic book face? I don't know about that. But I know that there's unlockable armor sets in Eternal.
Starting point is 01:44:10 And one of them is the the old one. I mean, they're just like the t-shirt. They're leaning into rip and tear it's until until it's done. Like they're leaning into it. The Doom comics incredible. But they read the whole thing. No, it's fucking incredible, you know, they're full on accepting it. So like at that point, fuck, why not?
Starting point is 01:44:30 Yeah, so that's that's where that's where we are. And of course, that game is also like a fucking unapologetic fucking video game, too, which is the most video game like and it almost like it's almost like making a statement about video game and about how video games have to be serious. It's just just game. Just just yeah, I want the health pickup to be a bright blue icon so that I know where to pick it up.
Starting point is 01:45:01 Whatever, you know, absolutely, absolutely. It feels like full on. Yes, this is video games, video garms. I've said that a couple of times playing it just like, man, they don't. They're not trying to be a movie and not trying to be another thing. They're not trying to unlock shows up on the screen. Not not, you know, and then the fucking Gordon kicks in and the gent starts gentin, you know.
Starting point is 01:45:33 Yeah, man. Anyway, it was incredible. Fucking great, fucking great, feels good. Is is hella is great is Laris and and all that to say about the lore stuff was like I expected there to be a get this out of my face attitude. But like, I'm like, no, this is good lore. No, he would be interested in that is good lore. Yeah, reading the the codex as you unlock them and finding out
Starting point is 01:45:53 what it means to become a level three operating feet in. Yeah, whatever the fuck it is. Well, you know what I mean? It is like a level three Scientologists. Like, yeah, sure. Totally no problem in there. What else you got? Crack the can open on Kotor two.
Starting point is 01:46:13 All right. What do you think about Kotor two so far? So good. It's a good game so far. So good. It's a good game. I really have been the seed has been planted where I have so many questions about what happened after the last thing.
Starting point is 01:46:33 You know what? I'm just you're going to just do yourself a favor and just to start deleting those out of your head right now. Yeah, yeah, do yourself a favor because there's no good answers. And the answers that you will get are going to be like, all about the old Republic. Sure. And they're all going to suck ass.
Starting point is 01:46:50 But ultimately, don't worry about that. It's more just along the lines of like, OK, so, you know, how bad can things get in about 10 years time? Real fucking bad. Real bad. Yeah, so I'm like, huh, OK. All right, let's let's find out. Really fuck the pooch on that one, huh?
Starting point is 01:47:09 Slowly, but surely we'll find out just how bad things got. And it was much to my surprise, but also not surprising at all is the the revelation that, oh, yeah, the Jedi have been wiped out more than one time throughout history. In fact, like the thing that we know about in like, you know, Anakin era, yeah, is really just the most recent time or that everyone. And I mean, everyone was done with their shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:46 Cotor 2 does so done. It does this great thing where it's like because it came out kind of after in the middle of the prequel, I think in 2004. And the Jedi Council and Cotor looks and sounds a lot like the Jedi Council in what in the prequels. Yeah. And it's like this mentality is going to lead to your downfall every time it's so narrow minded every other week, man, just enough,
Starting point is 01:48:15 you know, and like the and the unflex, the unbending. Yeah, the rigidity makes it so that there has to be alternatives, but there never is because good, evil, bad, good. Yeah, Revan went nuts, but I didn't. It doesn't matter. Yeah, I'm going to do it different this time, will you? Fuck off. Yeah. Which is why I'm so disappointed to know that like there's no good reward
Starting point is 01:48:41 for playing great because my curiosity would want to see what happens in that on that path. There is one. There is one reward for playing great. Yeah. And that is playing evil all the way through, except when it counts for not killing three very specific people. OK, so that they will tell you what is going on. OK, because if you kill them, you just don't find out.
Starting point is 01:49:10 Yeah, so I kind of assumed as much that there would be a like there are your minor's decisions and then there's your major like slider influencers, so to speak, so there's way more than enough points to still make the big good ones while still going like 100 percent shithead. Hmm. But it is it is it is something curious and interesting, at least in terms of game logic about, let's say, in real life, like just stabbing someone in the face in cold blood, yeah, and then doing enough good deeds
Starting point is 01:49:47 that you're back to being like exalted. And oh, so where are you at? You're off the mining. So first planet. OK, first planet. That's it. You have you gotten to the part where party members are calling you out on your bullshit. I mean, not a little, little bit.
Starting point is 01:50:06 OK, I've been introduced to Barth. Yeah, a.k.a. Better Carth. Yeah. And I've been in that chart starting to make a little more sense to you now. But a little bit. I've been introduced to grandma. Grandma, she's all right. She's all right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:24 And then I'm like, it's my boy is T three to the rescue. Hey, man, and he's got the bizzzt. So I'm a role. You need a door to be open. I need a robot to be fried. Yes. So bizzzt. He's going to be is fried. He's the bro.
Starting point is 01:50:42 And and I like it feels as if. OK, so this is obsidian, correct? Yes. OK, this is my first obsidian game then. Right. Really? All right, then. Because that's a name of a because you've you've had New Vegas on a shelf in your mind shelf ready for the future. But here's what that is.
Starting point is 01:51:04 That's a company name that you guys always talk about, that I have no direct hands on reference with. Yeah. So now this is my first, right? Especially good because you played the Bioware version and then the obsidian version. Well, because I'm like, what other obsidian games are there that I would have played? You would have played Neverwinter Nights to you would have played.
Starting point is 01:51:23 I did play Neverwinter Nights one. No, not obsidian. Yeah. That's Bioware. There's a real weird Bioware does the first one. Obsidian does the second one. Yeah. And you guys know I didn't play New Vegas. So then what else would there be? Dungeon Siege. No, there'd be the old Bioware games,
Starting point is 01:51:41 which is despite being made by Bioware, is is 100 percent actually just obsidian South Park. I played. I didn't beat it. Yeah. Right. I touched it. I worked while OK, that was in test, but I didn't beat out the problem. It was in test at the office. That was about it.
Starting point is 01:52:01 Yeah. So, you know, like at the end of the day, it was always on the periphery, but it was just nothing that I ever said I ever sat down and completely went through. So as surprising as that fact might sound, when you break it down to the by the numbers, there's nothing that necessarily crosses the desk. So this is the first time around.
Starting point is 01:52:17 And I'm like, OK, let's let's see what we're getting in for. And I guess there is a feeling where whoever put this together kind of went, hey, you know what everyone thought was really fun? HK. Yeah, he was really cool. People enjoyed HK. They enjoyed him a lot. So like literally countdown clock minutes,
Starting point is 01:52:44 minutes into the second game, as opposed to hours into the first game, yeah, you get to sit down and talk to HK for a long time. A real big conversation with the boy who you love talking to. Yeah, you know, and you're like, they know how much people love this and they know that this is exactly who you're willing to have this kind of conversation. Yeah. And then I felt like the tone shift was complete when you run into
Starting point is 01:53:13 I'm so pissed off, I'm holding my organs together with the force. Jackass on the ship. What's his name? Fucking Sion. Not there yet. Yeah, you are. You got off the mining facility. You ran into him. Barf. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:53:30 You got off the mine. You went to the first planet. No, I'm in the ship. I'm in. I'm floating in the ship. I'm not at the mining. I'm not. You said you got to the first planet. No, I said I beat the first. As in I beat the first like area, planet stage, whatever.
Starting point is 01:53:46 I didn't land anywhere. I'm still in the ship right now. So don't worry about it. It's fine. It's fine. All right, my bad. So. Oh, wait. Oh, God. Bad guy.
Starting point is 01:54:05 Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I completely. OK, you're talking. If you're talking about a bad guy, the crusty boy. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right. Sorry. Sorry. Totally, totally, totally didn't. I didn't. That didn't.
Starting point is 01:54:17 When you did your descriptor of him was not at all what I was putting together. But yeah, I saw a crusty boy. Yeah, he was crusty. He's very upset. Ashy Larry. Yes, Larry. Is that what you're calling him? Yeah, a little bit.
Starting point is 01:54:33 He showed up. He showed up. Yes. Yes. You're correct. You're correct. And he he looks kind of fucked up, but he's on that title screen. So we'll find out more about him. He's fucking jacked up. Pretty much.
Starting point is 01:54:46 Pretty much his entire storyline is the thing you read in the medical notes. Yeah, OK, is just he's very upset. And he's flaking all over the place, bro. Yeah, so we'll find out. We'll find out more. But at the very least, you know, I was like, OK, so there's you and there's grandma and there's me.
Starting point is 01:55:06 And then we'll see where we go from here. But so far, yeah, man, that's fucking. That's the Ebon Hawk. What are we doing? We're flying on it. And I love how overt it is. Like, hey, look, it's the Ebon Hawk again. Fucking Ebon Hawk, bro. And then also it's like, hey, what are these?
Starting point is 01:55:22 These minors are just trying to go to work and fucking get their get get get their their family. I got fucked, man. Trying to get some food for their families and like, just the worst possible series of events. And then of all the people to show up, a protocol droid. Oh, hey, I don't really see how that'd be really all that useful in a mining operation.
Starting point is 01:55:43 But I feel so bad for those poor fucks. Yeah, so it's wonderful. It's wonderful, you know, just the slow reveal through all the hologram histories that of like things very, very slowly going wrong. It's it's turning the dial up at a half notch. One of these little droids went nuts. Oh, that's weird, two went nuts.
Starting point is 01:56:10 Hey, a bunch of them are fixing that ship. Did anyone make who told? Did you make him do that? No, I didn't make him do it anyway. Hey, Jerry, you do it. Oh, Jerry can't hear us. He's got his phone. He's got his head on there.
Starting point is 01:56:21 What was that noise? And hey, what the fuck? There's a guy who turned on the gas. Why do we even have the ability to turn on the gas? You know, and then and then, of course, the yeah. And then from there to fucking insurrection and back. It's just, you know, a great time. So that that's going down and really enjoying that as well.
Starting point is 01:56:42 All of this, all of this continues over on Willie versus on Twitch and on YouTube. So doom and Kotor will will be will be going on. And yeah, I think if I finish, if I finish doom, then we'll start the new LP on Thursday. If there's if there's at least two sessions of doom, then then we'll just do.
Starting point is 01:57:11 Yeah, I have the exact same thing where I put a schedule together, but a page and I are either one or two sessions away from finishing RE five. So I ended up just being like, if we don't finish it, just slide the whole schedule one day over to the right and just pretend. So that's over at Willie versus, you said over at Willie versus. You could tune in for that stuff and or something new, depending on however doom shakes out tomorrow. So I'm still streaming residential games, almost on RE five.
Starting point is 01:57:45 That game's pretty good. But you know what? You remember how RE four had a lot of slow moments, Wolves? And you are five has so many moments that it's like run through the area while a million enemies are fighting you to flip a switch and then run back. Don't even bother. It's kind of like the pacing is kind of all over the place. So when I played, I remember shooting everything.
Starting point is 01:58:06 Yeah. And then it slows down at points like, I think you get off the boat and you have to fight the Bejinis. Yeah. And like, there you have to take it slow. But I wish the game was still a little slower paced overall, honestly. But yeah, more of that and then something else. I'm going to stream some fucking bullshit one off just to put a day in between residential games. And then resident will revelé at tons.
Starting point is 01:58:29 We'll start this week. That's over at twitch.tv slash Pat stairs at. I'm excited to get to fucking revelations. I never beat it. I got about a third of a way through where you're shooting invisible hunters. Isn't there an important law? Resume a revelation says a problem and it is that thing where the sides, you know, never had the revelé a ton.
Starting point is 01:58:50 Well, yeah, I did have the revelé a ton. OK, the problem is, is that the revelé a ton is too big. You know, when a side story that you know, main series games aren't going to pay attention to does something that's too big. Oh, yeah, too impactful. So in revelations, there's a fucking giant fucking floating Japanese style city. You know, those kinds of techno future things.
Starting point is 01:59:11 Yeah, that gets completely annihilated in millions of people die. And it's called terror greed. Yeah. Mm hmm. And it's OK. Wait, that rings a bell now. Right. Like, yeah, yeah. For some reason, I'm here. Yeah, I'm just thinking back to I think it was like Liam
Starting point is 01:59:31 like saying fucking terror greed. Right. And it's like it's too big. Right. Right. It's too big. Yeah. It's like if New York City got killed by hunters and no one talked about it. Hell, fucking no. Right. It's not important because it didn't happen. Yeah. The obnoxious side story that is way too big for its britches. Yeah. Yeah, you're you're looking at it happening
Starting point is 01:59:52 and you're like, this doesn't count. You know what the most egregious side story is of all time? What's that? Ninja Gaiden. Yeah, you're right. You're very right. What's going on with Joe Hayabusa in Ninja? Like, how much importance are we going to put on this side story? You know, is that to is that to like imply that the real story is what is dead or alive?
Starting point is 02:00:27 No, no, because it was this was before D.O.A. Yeah, it was. It's been we've been following this side story for years now. When are we going to get back to the main story, guys? I don't know. What the fuck are we doing with this side story? Side demons. One day, we'll find out. One day, we'll find out who that guy that Joe Hayabusa cut was in the intro. But none of this matters.
Starting point is 02:00:54 Now, everything we use is not important. Ignore it. Just ignore it. All right. Well, that's it for our weeks. Should we move on to something else? Yes. Something such as that. What the? An advertisement. An advertisement for a fine product that has sponsored the podcast.
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Starting point is 02:08:12 Wash your body. The second step is making the surface smell good. Yes. If you can't skip the first step, you can. No, but it won't work. Okay. Oh, okay. Well, sure.
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Starting point is 02:09:03 The body can be weird. Your human body is disgusting. You need to fucking get as much of it to leave as possible. There are folds. There are folds. We have that. That's that's our biggest problem. The folds.
Starting point is 02:09:18 There are folds. You know, if there were no folds, there'd be no problems. We were perfectly smooth top to bottom. Think about it. Every single problem on the human body in terms of scent comes from a fold. No, there's one that doesn't. I don't know. The folds limit.
Starting point is 02:09:42 I don't have folds on my asshole, bro. Yeah, but you have folds around the edge of it. See what? You see, you're the butt itself. The cracks out of fold. Yeah, it is. You're crazy. The butt is a fold.
Starting point is 02:09:53 No, the butt is a crevice. It's a fold. I'm counting it as a fold because here's the thing, but some muscle. Here's the thing. Right. The but itself. Yes, but there's a crack that's closed off. The point is that when you have it closed off, there is not enough air making its way
Starting point is 02:10:14 through everywhere that there's a fold. There's no air getting in. So those are the places that problems arise. Arm pits. It's a problem. I just want to seal myself off in the laminate, man. Okay, but like would you laminate like so that everything is separated and divided and nothing is folding?
Starting point is 02:10:36 No, just laminate me to death. See we can do that, but how do you want the details handled? For example, do you or laminate? Do you want the laminate to go right down the crack or do you want it to just go over the top of it? Because then you have air bubbles. I want to be encased in carbonite. Right.
Starting point is 02:10:55 You want a vac bed. Yeah. Okay. So you need it to go right down the crack and in between the folds. Yeah. So so you're looking for a situation where you don't just have a nondescript bulge. No. You have a very detailed wrapping around each, each crevice and we encase full sack on its
Starting point is 02:11:22 own so that everything is isolated. Every toe individually, every finger behind your ears, terrible, everywhere that there might still be a space or a crevice or a fold lobes isolated, separated from the body. You're not even safe if you put your brain out of your body into something because your brain has folds. Your brain does have folds. I mean, except for the smooth brain people out there. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:11:55 Kudos to them making it work. They're trying real hard. Are they? Probably. I thought the whole point was that they weren't well, no, I mean, I think the point is that they can't either way. So let's talk about some stuff that happened. Get the fuck out of my face, medical mechanical.
Starting point is 02:12:15 That's coming back eventually. Where the fuck is FLCL to it? It happened. No, they did a preview episode. They showed one. I think it was like they should one preview on Cartoon Network, but I don't think the full thing came out at all. We would have heard about it.
Starting point is 02:12:31 Are you? I'm pretty sure it happened. Oh my God. And just and no one cared. Oh my God. Did they happen and nothing happened? Yeah, that's right. Two and three came out and they and they just, no one, nothing.
Starting point is 02:12:45 No. I appreciate the mentality of we must have heard about it because it would have been such a big deal. But no, that sucks. We don't have Cartoon Network up here in Canada. So I don't think I was relying on the Internet to like laugh. And the Internet hit it with a collective man, man. That's like, um, what was the other thing?
Starting point is 02:13:12 Something I was looking forward to, uh, uh, cannon busters. Yeah. I was like, yo, what's the deal with that? And cannon busters. It's like, yeah, apparently it came out. What? But I was waiting on this thing to drop and it's like, yeah, apparently the first episode was great.
Starting point is 02:13:24 And then everything else. Some people were saying not that great. Great. And I was like, it was sort of okay. And I was like, oh man, really? Super. I was looking forward to that shit. Wow.
Starting point is 02:13:33 Every time. Well, if I yawn and then speak, Muppet time is upon us. Yeah. I'm not sure what's up with it. Um, if I could do it on purpose, I would. I would love to have a Muppet voice in my bag of tricks. Next time you do it and tell me to clean my room. Um, anyway, so they came out and they fucking nothing was talked about.
Starting point is 02:14:00 Yeah. That's right. Wow. That's, that's right, man. That's super bummer. I did the pillows make new music for it. I don't know. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 02:14:17 Well, now I'm going to go look that up and find out, man, I think that bums me out more than like it being such a colossal fuck up that you can't like it becomes a massive talking point for years almost where you're like, it happened and it was such a sputtering nothing that no one even refers to it anymore, right? It's like that, that, you know, I'm trying to, I'm trying to think of one. Nothing worse than wasted potential. Yeah. Hey, does sequel come out to that?
Starting point is 02:15:02 No. Quiet you. There was no sequel. Never happened. Well, okay, I got to go check out FLCL two or not three. No, I need to know. Okay. And then I got to go check out cannonbusters because I need to know.
Starting point is 02:15:23 But man, that really makes me feel bad. As soon as you just offhanded, I feel derailed. Well, anyway. All right. So what happened this week in the news of pop culture, video games, movies, etc. Well, that's shit we talk about incessantly. Yeah. I mean, do we do we just throw up the relevant talking points for our competitive sakes or
Starting point is 02:15:54 can we just go into random shit? Let's just fucking hit it. Just just look. I don't remember any news that interested me to enough to me go, Hey, do you see that shit other than Brian? What's his name? Brian Hanford. Mr. V. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:16:07 Talking shit. Well, there's a big obvious one. That was my highlight. Well, no, I mean, the obvious one that everyone would would come to us about is is co-op and local co-op in bloody palace. Man. Please put that in the other versions. Forget about that one.
Starting point is 02:16:23 Please. I did. Two weeks ago. Okay. Man. That's a hell of an ad. Well, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:16:35 But you're going to have to accept at the very least at the on this point that the switch version of this game is now definitively the one to play. Well, I think the most annoying thing isn't even that this version of the switch. I'm like, I really want that for DMC five. Yeah. Of course. Like bad. Oh, of course.
Starting point is 02:16:55 And we'd love to see that in any other game, but at the moment when it comes to three, unless you're like, you know, trying to run that mod game on the PC version, this is just this is it. Yeah. This is the version to play. You've got style switching on Dante. You've got a fucking local co-op bloody palace, which we know exactly how they did it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:17:20 You just grab. Oh, Matt Walker even talked about like they use doppelganger and they just put it in there. Yeah. Well, that's exactly. Well, not even doppelganger. Mission 19. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 02:17:31 You just grab the same two player Virgil from, yeah, and just give him his full moveset. Yeah. From mission 19. You just throw it in there. Right. Dante controls the camera. So this is the type of thing where you're like, this is how you make a new feature out of shit that already exists.
Starting point is 02:17:44 Yeah. You just had more time. So why not just let go piece it together. Mm hmm. Wonderful. And how if any, if any bloody palace could use it, it would be this one with the fucking 10,000 floors or nine, nine, nine thousand, nine hundred and ninety. Whatever the fuck it is.
Starting point is 02:18:01 Where you jump up with the crazy amounts at a time and in same difficulty shoot up. Yeah. The co-op on this type of challenge totally absolutely called for. So wonderful, awesome, awesome, fun things for that. And that that settles it. Like that's this is the version of three to eat to play, you know, as far as I'm concerned. Although the joy con fucking push can can eat my ass with a spoon because no, we're not turning joy con sideways and playing double maker.
Starting point is 02:18:33 I think you're talking about the best way to play. You got your switch right there. You'll be able to play as Dante and Virgil by turning your playing on your your hipster rooftop. All right. You know, you know, and the gangs there. They're all crowding around the tiny switch that you've propped up on a on a perhaps blue ribbon and you're like, yeah, I'm I'm gonna be I'm gonna be dirgell.
Starting point is 02:18:59 See now, if you share a combo meter. Then that's a joke. It's the easiest meter ever. Well, certainly. But also this will lead to new combo video possibilities. It sure will. That besides modding, yeah. So I look forward to seeing what the old gang can do when sore teams get all the people
Starting point is 02:19:25 behind the fucking DMC three combo style contest, combo meds on this. Yep. Go go go get a vault of base even. He made a couple. Yeah. I remember seeing his crazy shit and like, I wonder how I can do that. And then I saw the button layout he used and I'm like, I don't want to do it anymore. I don't want to do it anymore.
Starting point is 02:19:46 It's the same feeling. It's the same feeling as what you get when you watch these super hardcore or armored core for for answer or armor for five for answer like versus videos like that's incredible. How are they playing with that? Oh, they're playing with the DualShock backwards. You don't like you don't like having to piano so that you can air hike into into Oh Christ. I just remembered. I played Damon X Malkina this week on PC on PC.
Starting point is 02:20:15 Yeah. It runs incredibly well. It plays really well. I can't stand playing it. Why the story is invasive and terrible invasive. I can't you can't get away from missions in which they're talking the whole time about their about the worst story known to man. And like it like wrecked it to me like all the conversations as you walk around slowly.
Starting point is 02:20:41 No, no, the like when you're in the mission and they're just constantly, constantly talking and it's terrible and you go to pick a mission and you have the little cut scene of these terrible characters hanging out. It's a bummer. That game would be dramatically improved to just rip all of its voice acting out. So I tried playing. I remember when I tried playing the demo and I was playing it in Japanese because I wanted to hear shark.
Starting point is 02:21:04 Yeah. And and then it became impossible because there's so much dialogue. Yeah. That I couldn't read up top and it's actually impossible to play that game subtitle. So we had to just switch it back. And also the subtitles are in a bad place. Yeah. They're above your character up where the life bar is bad as opposed to where subtitles
Starting point is 02:21:23 should go. So yeah, then I switched back to English and then it kept going. But I only played that demo. It's it fuck it's that no one shuts the fuck up and it's all garbage. It's sub bad anime trash. There's also those cut scenes in between the missions where they're talking to each other on the little codec screens. Terrible.
Starting point is 02:21:45 Terrible. It's a bummer. It's the only game I can think of that I played in years and years and years that the story took like ruined it for me. Wow. That bad. Bummer. Like maybe the game would be a lot better if you just hit start on every cut scene and
Starting point is 02:22:03 then turn voice acting like in the options to zero. Yeah. What about customizing your character? It's incredible. Giving yourself implants. Oh man. It's great. And the the Mac customizations out of control.
Starting point is 02:22:16 It's totally just armored core. It's great. Yeah. Oh wow. It's tons of fun. Cool. Just I want to scream at everyone to shut up. Well this segment is in the complete wrong section.
Starting point is 02:22:25 I know I cast but I knew it was only the last two, three minutes. Fair enough. What are you going to do? I'm going to scream at armored core and then I was like oh I forgot. Yeah. That's news. Oh yeah. But it runs incredibly well.
Starting point is 02:22:37 We're seeing the suggestion play multiplayer. There's no story there. I don't care. I don't care about multiplayer. Okay. Did you like your robot? I liked my robot a lot. Good.
Starting point is 02:22:47 Good. I'm glad you liked your robot. Front mission three is still the best. Front mission three is still the best. But the camera is pretty far away. It is. But you need it far away because it's a PS1 game. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:23:01 Well it gets up closer than the fights but then it goes back far away. You know. Man. So sad to hear about that franchise not continuing to exist in a strong way. Thanks Left Alive. That's one of those games that came out much like FLCL 2 and 3. That's exactly what I was thinking. And it just.
Starting point is 02:23:26 Oh that came out? How? Hmm. All right. Hey I hear that uh now that that's strategy is over Koji wants to work on something and he wants Yoji to have more of a chance to shine his mecha designs off. Can we get um grown of the Zenders? It's just like Egypt robots.
Starting point is 02:23:55 Just shut just yeah Egypt robots. There you go. This one the good guys Anubis and the bad ones Jehuti. That's crazy. Pharoah bots. Pharoah bots. There you go. You did it.
Starting point is 02:24:11 You did it. There. Done. Sorted. Everybody enjoy. All right. Back to the news. What else we got?
Starting point is 02:24:21 Well uh so yeah um fucking what are you going to do? Not play Virgil and Dante style switching all over the bloody palace with your friends? Fuck out of here. Of course you are. So that's that. Weirdest thing about this weirdest thing about these these um updates is the fact that they're not being delivered via highly edited amazing hype trailer there it's it's like Matt Walker talking in like what looks like a Facebook post straight up doing an Instagram story.
Starting point is 02:24:50 Yeah just leaning and talking going hey guys here's the latest feature and you're like oh okay that's very candid it makes it gives you the feeling that these were like easy throw together easy throw together and maybe not as much time to like throw them out there as how we hoped but um one way or another it's kind of like well okay I'm hype I'm that's a really hype announcement I just I'm surprised it's not with like a big ass trailer and music playing and you know like we are falling I really hope they get caught bloody palace in five because now the expectation has been set that has been that bloody palace can be co-op it sure has and we know that the online co-op framework exists is already laid out
Starting point is 02:25:36 in the game in a passive weird non-almost way almost pawn like system and we also know that people are playing that one mission over and over and over again just so that they can play for two minutes together in a similar co-op fashion so it is very possible you know and you can you can stack your raw stuff rack your stylings against each other and they should do it all the signs are there I think they know they should do it I don't think there's any feeling as obviously stupid but still compelling as I want it so they should do it but I want them to do that so they should do it but this is not that stupid because they already did it they just didn't turn it on yeah it's there they just didn't turn it on turn it on please
Starting point is 02:26:29 yeah so yay I want to be able to play DMC for with all five playable characters in the store missions and co-op at the same time yeah oh my god just giant round trip while Kleena and doing the itano circus while judgment cut end while while Nero is snatching enemies into it into the zone and and then Pandora has opened up yeah fuck me yeah so you know it's kind of nuts what's that um I kind of had a point in time when I thought this would happen but then it never did and now all these years later after it's already been revisited uh this event did occur a playable version of Starcraft Ghost has leaked way after anyone would ever care well way after they already used her in a bunch of stars and here's the
Starting point is 02:27:39 storm so um really really weird uh for this to happen all this years later but it looks like what happened is somebody um got their hands on an xbox dev kit and on that dev kit was a build of uh the full fucking game up until at least the most the more recent version of it the question is is like is there a Starcraft Ghost got killed twice yeah there's the old old old build like version and then there's the more recent one right so I think the yeah this is from the xbox era like build which is the newer one okay because there was a there's an ancient like screenshot that was the like the promise of starcraft go you know that kind of thing and it was nova walking behind a line of siege tanks that was firing
Starting point is 02:28:36 at a zerg on on rush right and it's like yeah that's really really cool like you know boots on the ground see that shit and we never got it um and I guess it is very interesting to see a game that was deemed too awful to release by old blizzard and we can compare that to games that new blizzard does release such as warcraft 3 reforged I mean like this was back in that era of like we have infinite money and time which is even more valuable so we don't need to put anything out there that is going to potentially even damage they killed three games in that time period they killed two starcraft ghosts and warcraft adventures and they were just like these games aren't gold plated super a plus super games so into the bin
Starting point is 02:29:39 what a crazy philosophy it's almost like or or like the it's like will this even remotely hurt the brand if the answer is if the answer is maybe a slight maybe can it right but yeah we got we got full on we got full on footage of ghosts that is uploaded now so we can see what what this game was going to be and it also looks like you can fucking you know maybe even acquire that somehow and play it yourself who knows maybe one day we'll find out what titan was blizzard would never ever release something that would hurt one of their brands well quality is of the utmost three B's baby here's the thing right blizzard would never but there is no blizzard anymore all that remains now is blizzard activision which is a distinct entity active blizzard I believe yes it is affectionately
Starting point is 02:30:46 called also I mean there is something that like remember when it was going to be a really cool feeling to watch a ghost on foot walking up to fire bats and zerglings just getting the ground view ground view of it like I'm watching it now and like obviously that magic is not there anymore because the mystery has been you know it's not fully ruined yeah we don't we don't necessarily feel that way but I remember being insanely excited about the idea of like an archon yeah right like on foot fighting and like you know like busting up a bunch of it's the same thing that they only versus predator franchise hit on a little bit where like the final boss of one of those games is a predator right right right yeah yeah yeah yeah you know like a carrier flying overhead holy shit
Starting point is 02:31:46 and just sending out the little drone you know what I mean like all these moments that like in my brain I'm like oh could you imagine yeah it's like the final boss is a mutilisk one mutilisk like do you remember the really hype cutscene of the arbiter flying overhead and decloking a ton of units yeah and how sick that was as like oh fuck this is what it feels like in cinematic yeah display and not in gameplay you know like you see a single ship fly overhead and an army is suddenly here oh my god that's fucking crazy yeah the promise of that type of thing on foot would be so cool you know and then eventually at some point Nova pointing a laser at a spot and then that spot getting nuked and the goofy thing is the Warcraft players did get that experience with wow wow
Starting point is 02:32:39 totally delivered on that exact experience for the other because you were playing as you know a human footman or whatever and you saw an abomination you know those big guys the hook yeah and it was the fucking biggest deal in the world because those things are way better yeah than an average fucking shit-ass unit yeah so I just saw Nova shoot an infested Terran that's crazy yeah well anyway mystery solved can close the door on that piece of history yay or at the very least see how far they got you know see how far they got now and judge for yourself whether or not they were right to kill it right to kill it yeah honestly at a glance right now looks like a pretty generic third-person shooter but doesn't Starcraft almost a fucking Star Wars yeah you know god well
Starting point is 02:33:37 it's all because it's all because not only was it Starcraft on foot Nova was a cool design that everyone loved right away such a cool design that like it retroactively replaced the old gold ghost design everyone wanted ghosts like this now everyone wanted more of this special ghost she was very cool so I bet one of the reason this is complete headcanon when was Starcraft Ghost canceled it was a ps2 gamecube and Xbox game at various points in its life right mm-hmm that meant it would have been canceled what 2003 2004 Xbox came out 2004 right sounds right okay do you remember this is gonna be a fucking pole you remember warhammer 40k fire warrior no so warhammer 40k fire warrior was a game where you played as a towel infantryman
Starting point is 02:34:34 tower the for the greater good communist a little space aliens that have high tech Xbox came out 2001 okay good and fuck is that warhammer 40k towel fire warrior was warhammer 40k's entry into the first-person shooter genre in which you got to play as a warhammer 40k unit on the ground floor of the grand tactical or space marine yeah and it's terrible it sucks ass and the similarity to starcraft ghost is significant huh because they are the same concept what if you were a FPS sorry what were what if you were a strategy unit but it was a shooter right and that game is terrible so I wonder if over I wonder if the timing works out that people at blizzard were like looking at that game and going yeah we don't want this to be our fire
Starting point is 02:35:34 warrior for our brand um wasn't yeah it wasn't space Hulk also a 40k game yes so they've done it before yeah okay I think I literally have that sitting on the fucking Saturn shelf right over there never pop oh wow someone in chat pointed out that these are all essentially reverse halo wars which is really goofy I suppose so I suppose so um I think I think like on principle you're way better off going in the direction of reverse halo wars than halo wars yeah like if you have to pick because like it's easy to like a strategy game that's well done will give you a lot of units a lot of a lot of settings a lot of world a lot of like map set it you know what I mean ideas yeah to work with more than enough that that you can pull from for a full third-person shooter but if
Starting point is 02:36:36 you were to go the other way it would be much harder then you'd be much more limited yeah runs the space marine man I wish we got a sequel to space marine second kick ass but that is like wherever 40k has this fucking problem with its games in which like none of them are successful enough to become long-running franchises except for dawn of war yes so but the first one always gives you the same factions about vermin tide vermin tide is not 40k not 40k but it's warhammer yeah it is warhammer but I specifically mean 40k okay so every 40k game you got your space marines you got your orcs you got your elder and may and you're gonna flip a coin as to whether or not you have chaos space marines are dark elder okay and it's like every time it's like can we
Starting point is 02:37:29 get a shooter where I shoot a necron please how about a tyrannid aren't there also like a billion possibilities to pick from there are a lot because that tabletop thing is a very very very large world there are a lot and you get to have this awful moment where you go oh wow those are just like those things in warcraft no no that's wrong okay blizzard stole it not the other way around yes yes more like world of world star crap yeah blizz right and then you get the fucking sing the song that ends the earth right man taiko going crazy games workshop got fucked on that shit yeah so the thing is of course is that like I get the impression that 40k is such an insanely large wiki dive of a universe so it is the same size as warhammer you could throw a dart and land on
Starting point is 02:38:35 any setting with any rate couple of races yeah make it something interesting but it's always the same ones okay because they're the popular hero one and then the popular villain one is the chaos and the orcs got it got it got it okay yeah right so like so warhammer and 40k are analogous like there's a one-to-one for almost every faction and one of the coolest things that they put out with what was it total warhammer to which is what I'm calling it I don't care that's not the real title the factions were elves evil elves rat people and dinosaurs sick like cat because of the first game did like you know the empire and chaos and like the normies so and then the first expansion was like dead pirates and then the one after that was the tomb kings and
Starting point is 02:39:33 like you know weird just the weirdos I would play a game that is a board game on the tabletop where it is operation accepted as a space marines body fine great pull out all four hearts operation is it heart a b or c operation and if you fail the the emperor accuses you of heresy the doctor for you yeah yeah I'm down anyway same thing with yeah and it is the same thing with vermitide where vermitide was like rats and then it's like okay that's a good weird one then it's like chaos dudes and then like maybe we'll get elves you know like just so you know me I if I was into that heavily I would get really frustrated at the same pics being used over and they're always the quote unquote normie pics knowing that there's such interesting ones to grab that's why
Starting point is 02:40:40 vermitide was ever was like yeah I would get real tired people of the big populars being the only thing we grab people never get any play yeah yeah I mean shit what was I like I was just having this conversation about something else I don't remember what it was but it was like literally exactly this was just like why do we always have to get the same street fighter where like if the fucking 12 world warriors aren't there everyone loses their shit yeah but no because I mean well it wasn't that but that happened in the third strike and then eventually those became beloved but for years they were like fucking considered a mistake and a bad idea so yeah it's like alright you can get the same guys you want here they are yeah you know oh that reminds me of a story
Starting point is 02:41:31 that's probably on our our talk at this week about Street Fighter 5 did you see the the the statement from Capcom they're addressing the online there will be adjustments coming to the online play they did say that there's also Seth stuff and yep looks like the pressure has cracked the dam finally and the water is leaking through can't wait for them to perm a ban everyone who used that network fix well have you seen what happens when you play Seth's old costume his Street Fighter 4 look he's very small he's really really small because they have to make him the same size it's really funny he's like a toddler next to Honda what are you gonna do you do what you got to do you do what you got to do and I would be very excited if Street Fighter 5 just
Starting point is 02:42:25 fixed its netcode yeah that'd be really good and then they threw it away for six there's a lot a lot of a lot of character references in the moveset yeah a lot whole lot of Demetres and she does the bow like after the you know after the drill demon cradle flap flash Charlie Nash's flash flash flip kick yeah the spinning in there is a reference video that puts it all together yeah I watch that but then like in that video right there's the like the spinning like yeah where it's like I don't know what this is and it's like Zeku yeah Zeku literally does that kick is the keys to the character right behind you on the character slot screen who's Zeku guys master exactly I don't know who Zeku is neither do you Bushin Ryu what only two are allowed at a
Starting point is 02:43:19 time he wears green uh-huh and he's an old man I see he's got that appeal Laura's got the hots for him yeah oh does she yeah he's got a little raccoon I know a lot about Zeku okay there you go or do you dude I'm the one that told you about Sakura's Hadoken hitting you feeling like a cool refreshing you are that person that's true yeah I read to you match plot guide yeah you did all right I think I tried to read it and I got like two pages and I'm like I don't care enough I'll ask Willie if I need if I want to know Laura's asked here yeah of course he is okay so other things that happened this week included my eyes glazing over as I read the headline Quantic Jean announced his self-publishing venture yay now no one will hold them to any standard and now they
Starting point is 02:44:18 can descend into the depths of madness themselves yeah there's no worrying about whether or not the publisher will tell them no no no Quantic dream announces the discovery of urgent energy they can do anything no one can stop them yay so the first time in 23 years of working with Pratesh's publishers were now in a position to self-publish yeah you know it's kind of funny how we got almost the same thing from platinum the other day yeah and it was super exciting yeah and here we're reading it here and you're like okay well yep all the best with that good good luck with you guys maybe you'll make a unqualified good game one day no mad soul too so I'd flip my shit I'd be super excited for no mad soul too I'm not even joking I'd be fucking I'd be so excited
Starting point is 02:45:20 call it soul no mad there it is except that game already exists but then just be like we don't care fuck no that game already not too bad we're taking it that's a weird anime no no we're taking nope it's too late they can't do that shut up Japan too late soul no mad we did it that game exists I don't know what to tell you they don't they don't you think cage cares I think the trademark office cares yeah watch them do it anyway yeah watch them do it anyway and then they get sued by the PSP and then just change the name to Fahrenheit there you go or call it Kelvin Kelvin okay whatever yeah same same place whatever you hear when you hear about studios working on games I'd rather stories such as this one such as Remedy confirms it's working on
Starting point is 02:46:16 control DLC and three games okay well control DLC was known and that's gonna be a tie-in to Alan Wake two DLCs yeah okay so both coming out sometime this year but in addition to that they've got three games on the slate and I don't know how big of a company remedy is but that seems like a lot it does seem like a lot that seems like a lot in addition that's four projects I have no idea how big they are but they take forever to do anything and so I assume one of these will be canceled and they're not in yeah and they're not inexpensive either like they're spent there these are these are pretty you know I would really like for them to continue Alan Wake those games are incredible maybe one of those games is just a filming crew filming some actors
Starting point is 02:47:00 right now that's yeah it's not out of the possibility maybe that's what that is right like let's we just decided to make a team that is just for filming the actors in the other games there you go yeah I mean that's that's that's that's cool cuz I mean I yeah fucking rad on that hope good things happen but indeed I expect one of those to just not exist yeah that's way too many projects we're working on two games and then it's like oh Alan Wake two and they're like well what's the other stuff and they're like what other stuff we didn't we're not working on anything else and you're like and they go oh that that quote oh what we meant was Alan Wake and it's two DLCs that's what we meant and you're like no it's not okay so the first of
Starting point is 02:47:50 these the single-player story campaign for smilegate entertainments first-person shooter Crossfire X a popular series in China and Southeast Asia okay second title currently going by the name Vanguard it's been known about in general for some time it's Remedy creating a long-term service-based multiplayer experience oh mmm both of those sound like shit whoa oh eternally playable development version now exists third currently announced title is based on the company's own game brands and is proceeding well okay oh okay okay well yeah I want you what could that I don't know what what would that be alright so they've got a new they've got a new well look at that what we have possibly be I don't know Alan control yeah
Starting point is 02:48:50 okay yeah how sick would a game be that's just called oops objects of power man well because Alan the thing that control does I've never seen anything ever do or at least I can't think of because Alan wake had these little jokes about Max Payne in it and then Alan wake had its own universe and ideas and what was going on in it and a control comes on and says no this isn't the Alan wake universe this game isn't connected to Alan wake Alan wake is connected to control yes because control is the big so that's the crazy like awesome thing writing is usually you zoom in yeah this zoomed all the way out and showed you that what you saw was a fucking that's like no Alan wake and quantum break and Max Payne are part our little pieces of their files on a desk
Starting point is 02:49:50 yeah in the world of control those stories are in a little fucking manila folder yeah in a filing cabinet somewhere yeah oops yeah it's in the folder labeled the really bad ones like you know shit goes off I'd be super dad for oops bro yeah that'd be great because now it means our way can fucking telekinesis throw bullshit all he wants and everyone can be a fucking remedy Jedi yeah yeah right actually sure because because oh what hey Alan that flashlight you have it's actually a really special flashlight and it's weird that you can use it everybody else goes crazy when they touch it and at the same time SCP yeah there you go just all of it so so so so I guess we can just stop talking about those first two and just say that hey they got a game in the
Starting point is 02:50:46 works they have one game in the works one game see it's like I said they just just those two just disappear what are you talking about looking forward to oops sounds like it'll be fun might even be like unless unless that multiplayer game is called like firearms the battle or something or quantum quantum oops quantum oops because that's a franchise yeah oh no wait Microsoft owns quantum break oh so here's still Michael reference it no Microsoft owns quantum break and Rockstar owns Max Payne but Max Payne is a comic inside of no a very very similar detective is the one that Alan Wake writes about his name isn't Max Payne it's something like okay so something like Slater hard body you know there are legal distinct reasons that they
Starting point is 02:51:49 have to stay separate yeah okay but it uses Max's voice actor sure sure but but like but in actuality there is a there is a an ownership yeah thing happening okay but quantum break is fully owned by Microsoft that's their baby so if they wanted to they could reference similar but they couldn't ever they'd be like this one time a guy that played a character on Game of Thrones traveled through time yeah no not that guy the other actor to play the character you know got it got it okay all right all right and also in control the the doctor is being played by Alan's Alan Wake's actual actor what's his name the the guy with the glasses and the live code that does all the presentations sure yeah that's that's straight up actually just Alan
Starting point is 02:52:37 Wake yeah they um more franchises need to zoom out yeah I like that I like the idea that every like game companies properties all just somehow coexist just a little itty bitty you know how every men in black movie came out but it doesn't matter because we're all just marbles that's right it's almost so like it's like who cares it's like in Capcom whenever I see Zennie I'm like yeah of course it's Zennie mm-hmm mm-hmm more things need to turn a Gundam yes okay well anyway people like crossovers and I say that with my eyebrow raised for those of you who are in on it well anyway the sequel to 20 xdx is gonna be called 30 xdx and that is the game that is the of course it is you know the Mega Man yeah inspired one that's pretty cool and looks like yeah man that was fun roguelike
Starting point is 02:53:44 Mega Man action sprites look way better this time around the number one thing that I felt about the last one and we played it for a bit and had some fun with it the number one thing I felt was that it still felt like a flash game and it looks like they've tightened up a lot of that so now it it really does resemble the sort of like pixel-based Mega Man action you don't really get those you know new grounds feeling vibes off of it that's a really specific feel but I don't know exactly what you're talking about vector art sliding around the screen it's the slide the slides like your character skating yes and it's when it's a character made up of like each limb is a piece of art that's like independently animating from each other yeah they got rid of that so 30 xdx looks way
Starting point is 02:54:35 better so that's great that's great that's gonna be dropping in over a year from now all right well we'll remember it then but the announcement and trailer have dropped so that's cool 30 xdx you shouldn't be allowed to announce things ahead anymore I you're silly we've you have this thing where waiting for games sucks yeah and because of that and because like you're like I rather not know and the announcement thing like you just I don't like you just they shouldn't let people do it you're silly you're fucking silly all right there's no you just need to learn how to temper your fucking patience no I don't want to just don't tell me and now I hate it now I hate it because I don't have it that's right fucking and I hate you because I don't have it completely
Starting point is 02:55:26 irrational you know sometimes it works sometimes and it's on let's be real it's awesome when we get the random drops yeah it's awesome every time it's awesome right but I like if you know there's there's a certain threshold after which like I'd say if you know a game is being made for years then it then you feel time drag on a lot longer if you're really looking forward to it so Bayo 3 is now becoming oh man something that is like when it's not dropped so when a trailer doesn't come out today is Monday February 17th right mm-hmm are you familiar with an ancient meme that was made around the time of Bayo 3's announcement like a couple months later which was a dude putting like a bucket of water over a door waiting for waiting for news yes and it was day one day to
Starting point is 02:56:17 day 817 yeah day 817 is March 3rd okay of this year of this year which means that like the it's always humorous to me when a ridiculous exaggeration yeah becomes real yeah and come on what the fuck guys we waited for and got to Final Fantasy 7 remake we lived a life for Shenmue 3 no that's different that's different I think I think like I mean 30 xdx put out a trailer you said yeah so thumbs up that's fine I'll live yes but I think like what is actually infuriating is games like Bayo 3 SMT 5 comes to mind a logo and a logo and a fake CG cut scene agreed and maybe one day agreed like fuck off right the we do it when you have nothing to say okay but the we do it one was actually great sure but but but like I will agree that a logo and a nothing is not great it's
Starting point is 02:57:19 not good don't do it you don't need to do don't do it I don't want a logo and a nothing but sometimes the pressure to do to say something excuse me at an event yeah everyone is really expecting you to say something where then they're like okay do you cave or do you disappoint everybody when you have nothing to say I get that but what all they're doing is taking that pressure and taking it off of it of themselves and putting them on to us well yes but the whole the but even telling you and then you getting disappointed that it's gonna take so long is still on you anyway you know so if you're a baby that has diapers and you need to be powdered before we change them you know what I mean like it's like do we do we drop this on do I'm not gonna listen to you say okay that's for a
Starting point is 02:58:10 person who doesn't even get excited for some games to come out no no no no what I am saying is no matter what happens no matter what happens it's on the audience at a point but you're gonna you're gonna have to see it as this right there's times when you have a moment where everyone really wants to hear something at an e3 at an evo or something like that and you're on a stage right and you're like okay we can drop a logo now and dead silence for two years that's that's like it seems like the worst possible idea in the world don't fucking do it and a lot of those games canceled like a lot of those games could cancel you know if you have it seems like you can do it if you have an existing thing out in a franchise like if KOF 15 yeah it's like yeah that'll happen and I go yeah
Starting point is 02:58:59 that'll happen but KOF 14 is here and people you know what I mean that is like yeah all right there's a thing right you're just saying the next thing might happen yeah um but like that the the and then the other the other option is like you don't do that and then you have dead silence show it when there's something substantial you know what's a good test of this is that ff7 remake is gonna have sequels uh I think it would be a really dumb idea for like six months from now to go the sequel to ff7 remake is in development with like a like a 10 second key art trailer yeah it's like don't everybody fucking knows yeah you don't have to actually announce it just show something when something exists I think I think the right way to look at this is probably follow
Starting point is 02:59:53 Kickstarter rules yeah right if your Kickstarter video has no footage to show and it's just you talking at a desk about your thing yeah you can you yeah but it's much more convincing and people will be way happier and more willing to support it if you can show off some actual progress you know what's interesting there's an example that I have that I just realized that is the reverse of this it is a game that has been out for years and years and years I don't know what fantasy star online 2 looks like at all okay I don't know what I know the opening cut remember we made a joke about how the one of the playable characters is Virgil yeah that's the only screenshot I have ever seen a fantasy star online 2 okay because right away it became very obvious that that game
Starting point is 03:00:52 was not going to come out here and that maintained for I want to say six seven years and as my brain went I'm not gonna be able to play that in English officially mm-hmm I just went don't look at it so every time like a trailer would like don't look at it you'll only get sad hmm what about now now I'm like I don't even know what to look at if I wanted to start to look at it I guess I'll wait until the PC version has a beta or something like that yeah max played it the other day right yep but now now I mean the opposite thing now it's a MMO that's been out for years and years and so how can I how can anyone just start playing it now is it's time just over right and it's such a weird situation yeah so so all that to say that it's like there is a lot of weirdness where
Starting point is 03:01:47 announcements and the feelings that come with them are like they're on the audience to some degree and then they're on the publisher to some degree but I think the safest and smartest thing to do is announce when you have something to show cyberpunk was ridiculous do you remember the original thing for that wasn't it just the CG it was just a CG lady yeah and it was one of those trailers that it's just a 3d scene yeah it was fucking incredible it was really cool and it was in 2015 or something like it was was way before Witcher 3 came out mm-hmm and the quote was yeah we're not even gonna start working on it until over a year from now mm-hmm and everyone was like what what are you why why did you even but if a project is gonna take some time 2013 wow it was 20 fucking seven years ago
Starting point is 03:02:45 okay yeah right what now now at the same time if a project is going to take some not seven years obviously yeah gonna take some time and like there's and you're seeing full gameplay and like you're following it as that time is closing the gap yeah and you're like that to me is like okay well they're making it it's fine you don't need to get impatient and mad about the fact that it's not here yet you know I think you can be more reasonable when you're able to follow that progress so here's where I get here's where I am a confusing hypocrite on my own thing because I don't care when games that get delayed anymore yeah which brings the release date farther away yes but I don't want games to be announced until six months before they come out okay even if they later get delayed so
Starting point is 03:03:38 if they lie to you and put a fake release date and then just delay it I guess my brain will utilize that and it'll be fine that was that was kind of what I was wondering I guess it'll be I was wondering about that because we both agree that when we see that delay and go yeah make it better it'll be better yep we good we know that thumbs up right don't join the anger of that moment because you know that you'd rather not play I'm not I'm not tall anymore and I'm not buying one game a year or whatever the fuck you know no shortage right of things to spend to grab your attention right so you're fine but yes when you know it's further away it doesn't feel good so now lie to you it's coming out tomorrow it's it's just I mean that's always the best we've
Starting point is 03:04:22 delayed it's a 2021 it's just like Capcom's been doing it really well lately where games get announced and then it's within about a year they're here yeah there's been nothing it's great there's been nothing I like there's rumors always bubble for a long time yeah I mean devil may cry five fucking god everybody knew for a long time and when I say new I'm gonna say no in quotations yeah because you're paying attention you're like what's so and so working on and the answer would be nothing yeah but but but devil trigger to controller in hand was less than a year or about a year I want to say it was one year yeah so because we decided to start the LP series shortly thereafter yeah so that's it you know um that's that's about fine resident evil three was real
Starting point is 03:05:21 fast because Ari Ari two came out in January of last year and Ari three got announced like two months ago so you know what you know what that means then you know it's actually optimal bubble with secrets and leaks for all as as early as possible as you can and then let the fever pitch be nice and high but still no official state so that when you announce it everybody goes oh fucking finally oh thank god oh geez and but all the thoughts are already there and all the feelings are already there and you don't have to have any like hey man hey I don't want to talk we didn't say anything but what is it gonna come out I don't know we didn't what what is what going to come out that nothing that we're working on plausible deniability maximum advantage like there's a
Starting point is 03:06:13 there's like a bunch of games that I'm pretty sure everybody knows are being worked on just by well what are they working on and they're all like right and you just you add a number of certain games motherfuckers are updating their LinkedIn accounts right and you just go well and then it becomes for people who are way too inside like us go when are you gonna officially announce a jackass hmm right but that's a whole different fucking thing but yeah that's what you want you want the yes I'm talking about bloodborne to obviously clearly you want the the what is what's the what's the phrase the fucking something secret the it's like the not secret secret oh the open secret or whatever yeah just like everyone's talking about it everyone kind of knows but
Starting point is 03:07:06 you don't have any official pressure on your hands right yeah okay well anyway like hello there's a good example there's gonna be a port of spider-man for ps4 for the ps5 yeah but how do we know that even though it hasn't been announced oh because they showed it in their tests yeah also but they're working on a new one yeah that was the other story or whatever let's get a move on though yeah let's do it okay so there's that uh fucking rad news on this tell me your rad news Castlevania season three oh man it looks so good so I like the and it's not directly tied to a specific Castlevania I was going to ask this is the one question I had after watching this trailer I wanted to know I'm like is there a game it is it is taking place in between three and
Starting point is 03:07:57 darkness okay so they would start putting in teaser bits for Hector getting out of his sex cage but we're but we're still following the trio from three yeah so okay and then there's a little bit in that trailer that made my brain go oh and it's hold on a second Belmont's aren't magicians right mm-hmm they're but they but they use magic they're holy as fuck in a bunch of the games yeah they get a fire whip they get the Grand Cross and then you see this trailer go out and it's like oh because modern Belmont's are descendants of Trevor and Sifa they know a little bit of magic just enough to light the whip on fire just enough to do a Grand Cross it's in the blood it's still it's still there their health sings but also they got a little bit of that the end of that
Starting point is 03:08:57 trailer is Grand Cross is that what he's doing if you frame by frame it there's a cross frame in there I didn't know what he was doing oh that'd be cool okay that's exciting I didn't know he could do that he can't okay okay okay got it got it got it got it cool cool cool cool that's exciting now here's my other question right again I'm a Castlevania outsider checking this out and loving this animated series would you guys as Castlevania fans rather the continuing adventures of this world or a gradual movement through the numbers so they're gonna do assuming the success continues I can see a gradual movement through the numbers because Alucard gets to be in a lot of them yeah maybe not as a main character but you can cut to him chilling in the castle whatever the fuck
Starting point is 03:09:56 are you down with Trevor not being around anymore in order to get to Symphony and then eventually I have a feeling that we're gonna see Curse of Darkness dramatically curtailed into two episodes of season three right the Hector's gonna go to the fucking castle and fuck Isaac up and that'll be ongoing alongside the original story because Curse of Darkness sucks ass like these characters in this world is great right this is great but but are you down to get to Soma eventually at season four I would imagine we're gonna be going to our fucking caveman Conan looking motherfucker Simon yeah you gotta who will know how to do who will be a much beefier Belmont and huge man gigantic and this is and this is the thing right if you guys if you got
Starting point is 03:10:51 like again I'm not you know I'm the secondary here yeah I'm the secondary need a time skip from this story it's for Dracula but if you guys if you guys right the Castlevania fans if you're willing to let this shit Jojo yeah if you're willing to let it has to right literally has to yeah yeah and I love you know me I love when time moves right but I but I know that not everybody wants that some people are like no I want more of my Trevor and my adventures there's tons of cool people that they can hang out with about how tired Dracula gets to be oh he gets to be so tired by the end of this shit like when Simon shows up and you have a whole new Belmont and he's like oh my god I'm finally alive again this is the shit looks out the window and he sees
Starting point is 03:11:39 the vampire killer growing through as it's like and like he's full of all this spunk and vigor and he's like you steel men souls you know and that well here's the thing that's way out there but that's that season like six seven but that's what I'm saying dude like you know when he's sitting on the throne and he's just and he's got his hand on his head and his hair's wine and his hair is white now he's fucking done and why wouldn't he be think about how tired he was when we first saw yeah episode one check out super checked out yeah you know that trailer has a lot of great stuff and it legions in there the giant ball of humans all sorts of shit yeah I can see season three being just just skip through curse of darkness as soon as you can and then four would
Starting point is 03:12:39 be Castlevania 1 and it would be just that and then five would be Castlevania 2 if this if this JoJo's through time and we get all these seasons coming out and they're all quality short little short little groups of episodes that are all like perfect representations of the games that they're moving through I will become a huge Castlevania there there's only one show there's only one thing that I think might be a problem yeah it is I don't know of who the fuck Simon's gonna hang out with yeah as secondary characters talk to your whip bro you know what fine but he's got he's got a Bible about you know I'm saying I'm using my brain powers I think season six is the earliest we can get Maria and and a Richter and Alucard how about this how about like price no seven would be
Starting point is 03:13:36 Alucard is fucking around with him as he's going through the castle yeah and death is fucking and he's like Tee hee hee yeah and he's like get away from me asshole and there you go right Simon's got death to talk to yeah and you know succubus and the whole gang is there the whole all the Warriors yeah yeah yeah yeah dude I would get so in I would get so in because they already made the most important decision they could make in this animated series and that was to skip Lament of Innocence and relegate Leon to a painting on the wall and one line of dialogue we moved past it because Lament of Innocence predates Dracula and was terrible right and it's terrible but also but fuck that it predates Dracula yeah so who gives a shit right yeah yeah who gives a fuck
Starting point is 03:14:24 um what was it if we get to season 10 then you'll finally be able to see the war of 1999 yeah which the games have been no WrestleMania pointing no because you got to go through Castlevania bloodlines and then you got to go through what was the was the 3ds one three no those are those are post but wait wasn't the sequel to Picard wasn't the sequel to Picard you know exactly what I mean I don't know what you mean okay Picard follow me here follow me here follow you Patrick Stewart was the voice narrator oh shut up in so back in in in the the new Castlevania which lords of shadow I tested lords of shadow that's shit is okay doesn't exist and lords of shadow 2 is 1999 is not just go to hell isn't it no it is also go to hell
Starting point is 03:15:24 that's not super that's not what anyone is talking about no one is talking about that that is the mercury steam the sequel to Picard is 1999 this is terrible and you need to stop no one's no one's given a shit about that not a single not a single fuck dude dude listen when I was testing that shit and like I was doing compliance on it so like there's a bunch of it that I didn't necessarily see but there was also all I remember is just that that it's I don't know if it's a loading screen or the opening cutscene of him walking and it's just him like that's all that game is to me it's an it's an it's a crowd control button and then it's big shouldered man walking while a map is moving over him and a transparent lords of shadow
Starting point is 03:16:13 one was better than it should have been it was fine but I think the biggest like bummer about it was that it had almost nothing in it that was like yeah Castlevania there's a single reference to vampire killer the song in the game and it's like okay so when did 1999 happen 1999 happens after after rondo of blood and then symphony of the night then the fucking whip gets passed down to the moriscans due to a fucking curse that you said what do you mean and then as in it happens after yeah though in Castlevania bloodlines takes place after symphony of the night yes but and they give the vampire killer to the moriscans because Richter fucked it up and cursed it by becoming Dracula's bullshit okay and then you get Castlevania bloodlines and you totally do get
Starting point is 03:17:07 portrait of ruin you're right you get portrait of ruin after that then there is you remember in do you ever play Castlevania what's it called fucking circle circle the moon or DS or whatever I play they reference the war of 1999 they sure do which is the Julius Belmont with his cowboy looking shit gets the whip back and kills Dracula for good for real z's and it is Dracula's castle and acts like a world war from the castle and Julius kills him beyond all recognition he will never come back and here's Soma for some reason what game what game is a genia aricado from he is from I didn't play circle of the moon or the those ones but he's at least from or he's at least from dawn of sorrow okay and he runs a Japanese yeah company I need that yeah I want more of that
Starting point is 03:18:09 he literally just dies his hair I need listen look at me look at me I'm looking I need that yeah that we're talking season 14 15 right now I don't give a fuck that is what I need okay black haired alucard in the suit is like like choice that's very far away that's very far away it is the coolest thing I have ever see there is literally I don't that picture I don't know shit it's just alucard in a so clean it's just him in a suit it's so cool and he dies his hair old person from the past looking modern with the cool shit with the time in the suit it's fucking great it's great I love literally alucard in a suit way way in it reminds me of the motherfucker from Death Note delete delete delete delete I don't know what you're talking about Kira's Kira's lackey I don't know
Starting point is 03:19:19 either death notes I don't know about the the the the anime or the Netflix adaptation Mikami Mikami is the name anyway Teru Mikami is very similar in that that way but you also very cool part of that don't I like to okay yeah yeah yeah I like it just go see some Matt Hardy wrestling matches and get it out of your system nah bro it's got a V alucard in the suit with the black hair I don't I don't get it for somebody who's not a Castlevania mark this is a bizarre like singular oh man that's the cool bit though I really like I really like alucard in general so seeing him in the future in like fucking choice clean and if I remember right him and Julius are the ones that fucking shut it down in 99 okay but so you're down for this this journey there's a there's it can
Starting point is 03:20:18 go it can go like 15 seasons now how now how now how it's not gonna Netflix though Netflix will probably kill it after this one it's probably done there's too much which sucks yeah Dracula upon resurrection is a thing I would love to see because he's still depressed see who's who's bankrolling Jojo right like anime anime seasons can just get forever rolling you know can we get some kind of David productions animated horse technology so we can get part seven they're already working on the horse tech bro they're already doing alternative companies have nothing to do with it they're trying to figure out there are 10 people at David production right now like scanning a horse maybe we can make the horse not look like shit in anime you don't understand dude
Starting point is 03:21:16 horses are tough you thought berserk was bad I did think berserk was bad and I was right because it's terrible okay okay okay okay I know you haven't read it right yeah but you know you know the role that horses play yeah they're all over the place what if they said the only way to animate steel ball run is to remove the horses entirely Johnny can't fucking walk chair he wheelchairs it wheelchair run he wheelchairs it the whole way that what if that's the only way in wheelchairs otherwise the show is cancelled I'd be yeah Jojo is canceled I'd be done with it or we get rid of the horses are you okay with yeah I'm fine I'm gonna shit that'd be hilarious that'll that'll result in a hilarious like did you know anime factoids like did you know that in the original
Starting point is 03:22:12 manga version of steel ball run they rode horses instead of wheelchairs did you know that the original manga was called steel ball run and not wheelchair run oh that's true wait they're not riding steel balls there else that would that would only make he's not running no he's not Johnny Joestar is not a sprinter he's a little a little uh little yeah can have a hard time with that one not gonna make it not gonna make it don't let it be said that not being able to have use of your legs would could ever stop you from vogue posing certainly not he finds his ways he finds his ways um dude fuck it ditch the horses then this might be a spoiler question but I wouldn't think so it does the story start and he and he loses the ability to use his legs or is
Starting point is 03:23:09 he just unable to walk from the page one I'd rather not answer that okay that's fine yeah um anyway the the the idea of of Castlevania taking its time right and here's the problem too there's a lot of time so when I saw Castlevania season three like announced I thought it was gonna be just straight up curse of darkness and then it cuts to continuing on from season two and like oh all right then I guess we are gonna take our time okay what if right Netflix just said hey guys right this is doing well it's not doing that well yeah that we're gonna fucking bankroll you forever yeah but let's say we're giving you exactly 15 more episodes okay divide them however you want all right what would you do because one episode for one arc is you can't
Starting point is 03:24:10 right to pull one game into one episode would be a bad idea you do five for Simon three for cast for Castlevania one two for Castlevania two then you pour all the remainder into Symphony of the night and rondo of blood five ten for Symphony of the night and rondo hold on five for Simon yeah three for one two for two yeah and then you do five for Symphony you do you do four for rondo six for Symphony and then you're done we went past 15 no that's four six three two is 15 okay sorry okay the way you said that we said five for yeah I know I know yeah okay that was but yeah no you you do cast when you wanted to because skipping them would be fucking weird so you'd so you stop at Symphony yeah Symphony's the important one huh and anything afterwards would be a bonus
Starting point is 03:25:12 I did 20 no I didn't you said five for Simon yeah that means five are now gone yes right then three for one no no no sorry sorry sorry sorry three for one and two for two yeah yeah that's the break out of five for Simon that's the five and then ten for rondo and Symphony ten for rondo which would be four for rondo six for Symphony okay okay okay that's 15 and then and then you kick it there interesting so you wouldn't want to give each one a little bit less in order to squeeze a bit more of the future in there no because Castlevania wanted to or I mean Dracula fucking comes back and Simon alone beats him down and he also kills death yeah um in that in that process wait when death is around he kills death Symphony he kills death he beats death to
Starting point is 03:26:04 death and then death comes back because he's death yes thank you okay interesting okay I don't know if anyone if people are agreeing with you on on ending at Symphony but what do you want to give Symphony tonight like two episodes go to hell no but but it seems like folks want to take it at least as far as area of sorrow so hard to say as I never played area of sorrow I don't really have a strong connection to it fair enough okay okay I touched it because I'd rather go and fucking do order of Ecclesia order of Ecclesia area of sorrow because you know it kicks ass because she has the tattoo on her back that shows you where the only remaining dry land is so you don't give him you don't really care about soma then I don't really care about a lot of people like
Starting point is 03:26:54 soma I know he's a very popular character I am aware of this I think a lot of people would want to see it get as far I don't care as much for his gameplay gimmick I don't like the the the absorb a shit zillion abilities rabbits but plot wise yeah okay the problem I always have a soma is that everything soma is doing sucks ass compared to the backstory of those games which is the world war against hell of 1999 and it's like what is that oh well the whole planet was enveloped by darkness during an eclipse and Dracula was going to destroy the earth and Julius and Alucard fucking killed him so hard he can't resurrect anymore see I thought you were going to say the problem you had with soma was that every time you picture him doing actions they're
Starting point is 03:27:41 being done in really cheap cell shading no as opposed to a painterly beautiful it's the thing that creates soma is cooler than soma hmm hmm yeah well see it seems like that's not the that's not like they killed Dracula's soul like let the records show that most people disagree with that all right that's but uh I don't know I certainly don't know but I definitely would I hope I hope I hope that they do get the bandwidth to at least get to symphony I don't think many people would be all that upset if they skipped one and two and went straight to symphony and and right because that's a whole lot of alucard yeah a whole lot of alucard he's very popular um we can we can give him a some time mouth we can give him some downtime yeah while we're wrapping those other
Starting point is 03:28:37 stories up because the whole like because one and two like the way it ends up working out I mean they obviously weren't written designed whatever the fuck like this one and two are like yeah alucard's asleep when Dracula right it's right it's just not around right and here's the other thing right the way these at least these episodes were done don't forget how compelling and interesting like some of those side characters were that are nobody in those games I hope um what's the what's the uh the black guy um his his servant there Isaac yeah so Isaac is about a million million shit zillion times cooler in this anime adaptation than he ever was in curse of darkness so like shit like that you can watch you can you can dedicate more time to fleshing out characters like him yeah and you
Starting point is 03:29:21 want to see where they go I'm there's one thing that I'm hoping for this season that is kind of a ass pull but you saw in the trailer uh alucard attacks a guy to scare him yes outside the castle yes I hope that's Grant because the the there are four playable characters in Castle 83 and it's Trevor Sifa Alucard and Grant the thief so this would be the place to introduce this would be the oh hey I was coming to rob Dracula's castle now the Dracula's dead and Alucard's like get the fuck out of my house and now that the story's over he shows up in season three yeah yeah okay and then he helps them fuck up Camilla or whatever sure sure yeah okay I'm down I'm down um although uh oh I forgot his name is Grant Denasty Grant Denasty
Starting point is 03:30:12 does anyone on this piece of key art look like him hey that's sick cans you just knocked over many cans don't worry about those cans move a piece of key art over here uh key art no okay I don't know who that guy at the top is though dude's clutching he's clutching pearls yeah clutching pearls okay well anyway we'll see where this goes but also they're going weird on this because there's a bunch of like like asian belmonts yeah and or whatever the fuck's going on with that like that definitely never came in yeah maybe you know what maybe that's gonna be their little their little tease for why alucard would move to japan in the future is that genya arcado he's a japanese man in the future yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah okay
Starting point is 03:31:02 is is alucard in yellow face he's rather pale pat he's very very pale but he's like pretending to be japanese no he's just very pale he's also a weeaboo I'm just asking questions which let's face it of all the cultures he would adopt yeah someone like him so yeah in symphony of the night he found a katana and he was like I would like to know more about this I'm interested in this I have to I have I have to kill dad again of course yeah yeah he says I'm interested in this and then he finds out where the katana came from you know what you know what I want I you know I want some Castlevania one and two to show up because Castlevania one he gets killed again immediately upon resurrection and then Castlevania
Starting point is 03:31:59 two he's mid resurrection and simon kills his corpse right he's just a throwaway fucking boss no you're you're getting his corpse parts to to to bring him back a little bit so you can kill him harder okay so that leads us to Castlevania's rondo where he's back again and he's a yeah which lets him look out the window and see another Belmont with another whip coming to his house later and just like oh you know just fuck again again with the motherfucking whip I hate that whip everyone needs to feel tired I also want to point out that in the in when he gets hit by that whip in the second season he point he implies that he has already been hit by that whip in the past he recognizes it by name in in Castlevania season two episode seven when he gets hit by it
Starting point is 03:33:00 he goes whoa wow the morning star whip good job it implies that like one of the older dudes beat on him with it before and lost nondescript Belmont in between Leon and Trevor okay like there's a real not again to to this yeah yeah yeah no I'm just I'm trying to imagine who that would be but okay um excited big excite Dracula and Ganon they have the same energy but Ganon is Ganondorf yeah like like it's it's fresh for him every time yeah Ganon is probably tired yeah but they both look out the window and they see that asshole with that one stick they always have they go fuck again with this but the great but you see that the great part if anything if nintendo ever had the like the balls to make it to let it rock right would be that
Starting point is 03:34:00 Ganon is the only being in the world that actually might have that memory whereas even Link and Zelda and Dorf and everyone involved it's all fresh and first experiences for them but like yeah the demon itself and the stick you know yeah definitely it's like it's another fucking wrong the one last thing that I want to say to the the gang in the chat watching this who are saying calling it the morning star is lame compared to the vampire killer to my knowledge the morning star whip is not the vampire killer in fact I believe that the regular ass looking whip that Trevor has in that trailer is the vampire killer also I like the name morning star because in addition to being a reference to the in addition to being a weapon name it is also uh similar to what lucifer calls
Starting point is 03:34:52 himself lucifer loves being the morning star that's what he is so I think that's very cool I want to see grand cross kill like a thousand dudes you know you want that camera to zoom out and just keep going well because they're they're they're in a room with a bunch of demons attacking them but do you want it grand cross to go off and if they're just smears on the wall all the way around okay but do you want it to be like that that like holy nuke or do you want the video game float into the air as the things circle around him and the full on no I want I want it to be like a burst like a bomb okay okay the holy nuke like a jesus bomb yeah and then the dust settles and it's just like like monster and vampire
Starting point is 03:35:42 shapes on the wall I would like to see the float I would be super down to see the float into the air and as as campy and as ridiculous as it is in the game too go for it drop that collar and I want one of the villains to have seen it and go fuck what the fuck is that yeah yeah totally totally yeah is that what he's doing well that's really that's totally grand cross super hype that that's what he's doing I didn't count I didn't catch it and it'd be the and it'd be the first grand cross ever yeah it would be it would have to be right certainly because he like otherwise I mean what like Simon's pulling those out all the time but yeah like Simon and Richter just know how to do it just doing it yeah they get out they get a crucifix and they're like yeah yeah
Starting point is 03:36:35 it's a nuke yeah expect oh man that move is is ridiculous to be fair like if you're a fucking vampire spawn like that shit is busted all right all right yeah um it's the same Castlevania is dead well oh a bummer oh well yeah you know um a couple other small things not much we can just roll through them real quickly let's do it uh one um we know that um not too long ago our buddy George got to be go hands on with the Nintendo PlayStation it is currently up for auction if you feel like dropping upwards of a quarter million dollars it can be yours
Starting point is 03:37:31 nah you sure i'm good you're good i'm good okay well the the the Nintendo PlayStation aka the console that is a basically a super nintendo that was being worked on to play discs um are there any games for it that they were going to it has a it has a Famicom slot up top and a disc slot in the front yeah but I mean does it play any disc games I think you could pop SNES games into the SNES cartridge okay I don't think you can plot most expensive super nintendo ever made yes um if you feel like it now they I don't know how far the auction has gone along uh we can take a look and see but it was pretty high up there okay let's be in a museum instead of like yeah that's the problem it's kind of a private collection agreed and that that's
Starting point is 03:38:15 currently what is being discussed the problem the that what sucks right now is that this one might go in someone's private collection and disappear forever yeah uh but there is at least again like um you know george was able to do a big write-up on it a big video for it and then there was um extensive footage of you know people like checking it out and whatnot but for the most part we've got the current bid at 350 thousand dollars sick that's a waste of money man yeah the only good reason I could see to spend that much cash on something like that is the idea that 10 years from now you can flip it for a double whatever the fuck you bought it for possibly possibly but it would be sad if this just went into the same disappeared the same vacuum it came out of yeah
Starting point is 03:39:02 right essentially it just disappears into one you know you want to you want this to go into a museum so now that being said apparently I remember this was like found in somebody's attic or something this was someone who yeah no it was uh got the whole story was like it was in a um a seized collections locker there was a someone had all their property in a locker storage locker and the unit got set up for it got sent to uh uh auction yeah and then it got auctioned off and they didn't know what it was or something like that so whoever picked up this thing on auction for probably yeah cheap yeah um I'm not gonna tell you not to sell this for half a million dollars no that's a life changer no you should do that yeah but ideally the buyer should be a museum
Starting point is 03:39:43 so the guys whose hands it was in when um when bunny hopped uh looked at it was like uh it was like a father who acquired it from the company he was working at and like his son knew what it was okay type of thing so they were able to like you know kind of figure out what to do but uh yeah I don't know I just I just hope it doesn't exactly I hope it doesn't disappear uh so that's what's happening um the other thing was uh we hinted at the fact that there was some sort of Bioware news last time but we didn't know what the fuck it was what is it well it turns out they're reworking Anthem uh they're gonna be oh yeah the news post we couldn't read yes a substantial reinvention of Anthem is currently announced um Anthem next slash Anthem 2.0 uh apparently
Starting point is 03:40:32 and uh basically it's them going hey sorry the game was not what you wanted it to be and we're gonna be doing it again I have a pro tip for people in game development this is the kind of drama best seen prior to the game's release hey best case scenario they know man sky it yeah but like think about the timeline on that that's what they're no no there's you can't you can't they're talking about it now the game's been out for six months no it's money no it's bound for almost a year money has been spent or not the game's almost a year old and they're like maybe we should make it good uh so it's at least a year away from now right I'm I'm I'm I am I am shocked that they did not
Starting point is 03:41:16 just completely abandon ship I'm also shocked but I guess it was because of the like at like the the game plan was for this to be a platform to last for years so I guess they have some unspent money that would be allocated to possibly future things that could come in here we have a we have a good quote from our good old friend plague of gripes says uh strike after strike while the blacksmith has quit for a year like the iron isn't cold the shop has closed just fuck it this is nonsense he also sent me an article entitled scientists find a mysterious ghost lineage in the dna of west africans researchers find evidence of a still unknown humans interbred with our ancestors plague what the fuck is this he sends me a cute animal videos what am I
Starting point is 03:42:15 what am I what am I looking at hold on I don't know what else did I don't know he sends me all sorts of stupid shit this is breaking breaking it's the headline breaking a screenshot of a tumblr post where somebody figured out that people have a fetish of blondes over stocking their shopping carts ghost lineage in the dna of west africans well all right science in the meantime our west africans descended from ghosts is that the implication I mean yeah we're all descended from ghosts because our ancestors are dead yes yes is this the secret behind the pharaoh box find out uh wait hold on my fuck it's kashima's shit is so stupid that I literally can't even think up something that would rival things that he has actually done like I couldn't think of an
Starting point is 03:43:15 exaggeration dumb enough especially since destraining has all that egyptian shit in it yeah I also was able to track down the source of genius cojumbo it was that mobile ripoff game called yes and the last trend or whatever the last trend and it was like find out the new story from genius genius cojumbo yes yeah no indeed it was yeah um yeah anyway whatever tight stood for tatanka men yeah but also total ultra tech that's right total ultra tech which is one of the manufacturers of the pharaoh by oh my god and king tut's been alive this whole time he has he's taking revenge on earth for the desecration of his mask ruling from kairu which did you know that kairu
Starting point is 03:44:25 did you know that the word air is in the middle of kairu and that's why the city can fly no it's because it's and it's all and and the citizens care a lot about the air that's so much worse it the it makes no sense it's the it's the air isn't even a language there is the most important thing to the people from kairu this is so bad so because they care about the air this is one of those things where my first thought is is the name of uh the city even the same in it's in the native language of the people who live there you know how like countries change names depending on what language you're speaking so it's like using english puns on this and but the name of the thing a fuck it my name is john pyramid my name is john pyramid and i am the pilot of the
Starting point is 03:45:17 farro oh man oh the alien force you know what they're called they're mummies but it's like it's like m-u-m-e-e-z and it's a horrible acronym mummies yeah they're mummies they're mummies that's right yeah yeah yep a-lowercase n00b-is yeah it's fucking so stupid oh my god all right i can't like i'm just thinking about all the desk branding names and how stupid they all are and how they became dumber over time except for that one there was that one that was good that you pointed out yep
Starting point is 03:46:27 that one got way better as the game went on well no i you only get it at the last first name for most of the game yes you do and then you get to the end you're like hey man you see the fucking last of this weapon bench i did fuck looks good fuck yeah looks good oh playing with guns seems cool wow you want to go get some guns and play with them yes all right that's what we're gonna do so simple so simple all you do is you upgrade your weapons in the last of us two and you see the person upgrade them and you see it happen in real life and you know what most certainly and as what to be expected people that know the shit out of their guns are like hey you're doing it wrong of course but but that's okay
Starting point is 03:47:11 because they're dumb and it's the post apocalypse but this is also well not even that it's just more along the lines of yeah but this is the first time i've ever seen a video game even bother trying to attempt this type of shit yeah it's so fucking clean i like the part where she uses the the grinder to sand down because it feels like a real thing yeah yeah and i'm like oh my god it's re4 weapon reloading to the next level yeah because you just work on your guns on the bench you know and it's something as simple as like having a character working on the things that you're doing in the menus yeah whole like that's nice i like it right yeah and this could apply to anything if i if i'm if i'm putting new parts on my mech i want to see like the fucking i want
Starting point is 03:47:52 to see a crane pick up the new arm i want to see nico putting the pieces on the thing yeah you know we want to see roll hitting it with her wrench or winery whichever you same thing yeah that is the same thing same thing that is the same thing you know fucking solid man god anyway that was cool i liked it a lot i enjoyed it all right let's take some letters all right if you want to send in a letter to this here podcast you can send it to castle super beast mail at gmail.com castle super beast mail gmail.com yeah someone said wrench winches i like that i've got a i've got a nut for you to tighten there we go that was actually work that was all right that was not detestable that was
Starting point is 03:48:55 actually quite functional yeah i got a bolt already already like it's already like it's dead dead in the water i got a yeah i got a screw blue you need to i i i'm gonna screw you yeah tough sacks like just just terrible looks like you're missing a couple of screws allow me to use my peen wait no what do you use on a screw a screwdriver that's right i got a screw that needs stripping no screw ever needs stripping that's bad it's fucked up yeah it's bad to strip a screw yeah but i got a screw that needs stripping
Starting point is 03:49:59 that's bad don't do that i'm gonna no it's a terrible the sexual analogy analogy of that is like disastrous it's got a hammer okay nail is a sex word so we got something with hammer ball peen yeah yeah ball peen uh i like to imagine that woolly and i's musings are one person saying all of them to a very confused chick at a bar yes yes exactly no no no to one of these yeah to the one of the aforementioned wrench winches okay so to speak like like like sydney at and they want nothing to do with it and you're sydney yeah at at 14 at the gas station and you're like and you they know their shit and you don't and and the dude is looking around the garage and looking looking for tool looking for tool yeah like looking for inspiration right
Starting point is 03:50:59 yeah yeah totally totally i got a level i got a i got a tape measure yeah well i don't think this tape measure is long enough and then all you know what that would just fall apart is for like any of these wrench winches to just turn to said gentlemen and go what do you mean what are you talking about like it's just a flat tone and then the whole thing then then you just run away you just run away leave your car just start running just book it yeah gotta i got a jigsaw that's not a tool wait is i'm thinking of the puzzle i thought you meant you brought a puzzle jesus christ man yeah there is a saw well what about a band saw there you got to that's well that's that you know that cuts meat and wood they use a band sawed the meat cutting
Starting point is 03:52:06 okay yeah but that's not its primary use no you can do that too i got i got a lathe you know there's no lathe in a in a in a fucking garage my dad had a lathe in the garage for what uh fucking working on wood a car garage yeah oh we didn't keep a car in there okay we kept a million piles of bullshit no i meant no i get we were talking about someone who's working on like the car yeah right it's not my dad that's no no no no we're talking about someone who's making the mechanical yeah okay so you know um um tire no got an air pump yeah i'll pump air air got some tires that need filling ma'am
Starting point is 03:52:59 good pump see here's the thing we're saying it with our voices if we set it with like a shittier like hey yeah like slime voice these would all work no but no but the confidence in that makes it fall apart yeah you need that you need the guy looking around it's like completely being ignored as like the sounds of what not scratchy voice right and you need and you need like i'll i'll i'll change your oil i'll change your oil yeah yeah you want some of this i get it's real oily over here no wait i don't mean no like it's not like it's not like grease i just mean gonna need a sham wow to hey what what what oh man there yeah that so the bit is done and it's a bad bit but i for some reason want to go back into it
Starting point is 03:54:00 right now i'm moving to the emails as my brain is like can we get can we get like a couple more stupid still racing still doing it falling apart kind of like is there anything to be done with rotating tires i'm eating for it's falling apart like looks like it's been a while since you had your tires rotated well put you up on a cinder block that sounds nefarious as that sounds fucking terrible now the bit is done what do you what do you mean by that i'm gonna strip you for part so that i may repair you while your legs are i mean what like hmm yeah no no good all right we got some emails we got some emails
Starting point is 03:54:59 uh we got an email coming in from uh that that that that's good uh mario says subs versus dubs the dumb version got it we saw the solution to this earlier in the form of a little comic edit where it was like subs and dubs unite over the point that subs are merely playing the dubs in their minds i'm not i am hello and sorry for not really having a witty name to call having heard the pub cuts about subtitles i wanted to share the latest dumb fuckery here in mexico got it we got a very dumb and absurd presidency right now where the guy in charge wants to raffle away the
Starting point is 03:55:45 presidential plane telling criminals to think their moms think of their moms before doing bad things and whatnot but right now we're getting personal the federal government is looking to have all movies regardless of their scope and budget have a dub version in spanish and indigenous languages for theaters this has sparked a lot of debate because the federal government have to do like dubbing like foreign and anime films sometimes get limited runs by independent companies who are barely able to bring them with subtitles many believe this is an attempt to help more people understand movies but it'll end up scaring these initiatives away if they're forced to invest in a dub yeah of course they are theaters this year we're supposed to get at least five anime movies
Starting point is 03:56:19 in the theaters nationwide and i would hate that this misguided law might ruin the blooming market for foreign oh it's not going to ruin the blooming market but what it is going to mean is that uh get ready for the shittiest dub tracks ever yeah that's the the cheapest mandatory dubs the cheapest shit they can possibly get away with so the the guy importing it and their cousin do all characters every single one and then tell you to watch the subversion yeah in fact it's and also none of them can speak spanish so they're just ballparking it in fact like most of the lines are them kind of saying what the character starts to say yeah and then ending the line with you should watch it in subbed yeah um there's a lot of bad fucking french dubs yeah that i have that i have partaken in
Starting point is 03:57:08 because people want to go see the movie theater and they are we're gonna go to the french theater and it's like mm-hmm not uh yeah how important is your market is exactly proportionable to how good the dub is going to be in that language so someone in the most tired spanish you can imagine just saying giga drill break or you should switch to the japanese yeah i'm down i can only think of one dub ever for a small region that was fucking kick ass kebec and it's kebec simpsons oh are you forgetting about uh prince of new york the french version of um coming to america i've never seen that okay well you need to talk to your find your most quib friends okay right go de sesh de sesh and ask them about coming to america
Starting point is 03:58:10 in french well i mean my most quib friend would be my dad but i don't think he gives a shit about coming to america find one that is of this relative decade okay or generation all right and ask them about that it is uh it is a special thing for anyone from kebec that we appreciate now people are confused by your use of the term quib quib back girl that is a term i believe you invented yes like 10 years ago correct go back that we have all been using in the in the circle yeah yes i'm going to kebec why start quib the same quib is it disparaging i wouldn't say so but it is fun to say kebec what and i gave you permission to do it that's what we are i'm one i'm born here will you give me squinty eyes for
Starting point is 03:59:01 oh really oh really oh okay i'm oh not no yeah sort of huh not really is that what that is let's let's backtrack despite the fact that i was fucking shot out right here in montreal kebec you're getting breathed my first gasp of air you're getting but i'm getting gatecapped you i'm not really kebec why you started this because you told me to go find my most quib friend to talk and get a goddamn copy of a french language dub this which you would never watch i asked but i told you to go to sesh as in like way out there in the places where and i have seen it with some french friends but i'm saying i'm telling you said to go get my most quib friend which would be a francophone kebecker way way out way by that logic and you not being a francophone kebecker
Starting point is 03:59:57 not even a little yes yes i'm gonna narrow my eyes because there are degrees there are you fucking ruined it this whole fucking argument is ruined now there's degrees of quib there are degrees of quib and and and clearly simply existing here keeps you on the on the scale on the scale on the scale you're on the scale you're just not all the way on the on the right slide of the fucking i don't know i disagree i wouldn't say i wouldn't call my mom a quib oh my mom isn't because she wasn't born here well my mom was but she's like anglophone through and through yeah but i always internalize quib is meaning francophone she's kebekwa it's your kebekwa no you're not kebekwa kebekwa or french language uh uh maternal language no kebek
Starting point is 04:00:56 no kebekurs our english language oh my god and the fact that you don't even know that oh my god no dude kebekwa is the french word for kebekur yes that's exactly so that so that's literally never heard a french person say kebekur kebekwa no you fucking dumbass you know a person from kebek is a kebekwa and you're and no well a kebekwa is a no it's a language translation it is a language translation you don't know what you're talking about that's ridiculous dude it is the french word for the english word for people that are from this province you're insane just because you say it like that and you make it and you frame it in that way doesn't mean you're any more correct about it it is literally a french translation of the word kebekur
Starting point is 04:01:56 mm-hmm so the very first oh sure enough sure enough yeah i've been wrong my whole life the fuck are you talking about with so much confidence well they i talk about everything all right don't worry i won't lord it too hard well turns out i was the fake quebe all along all along you had the quebes in your veins wait now they're midichlorians now they're midichlorians exactly anyway um quite frankly i almost said frankly what is up with your w's right now well q and you oh but only in quick okay
Starting point is 04:02:58 did you say only in did you mean to say only in french but no no only in quebe because are you referring to the language all the languages quebe is shit man i hate you know what no that's not true i don't hate it because we've known for a long time with like what this is but it's just it's never quite seen the light of day so here we are here we are explaining the degrees listen dominic wants to ask us a question what's up dominic hey castle super beast i came across my news feed and i honestly uh didn't know what to make of no i came across this on my news feed as something and it honestly made me ask what planet i was on i don't know if you've seen this but i thought it was pretty great even if it is
Starting point is 04:03:49 just the sign for love in esl will kanda forever and there's a link to an article and the article says as i pull this up right here all right let's see this shit is that harriet tubman on a bank debit card throwing a wakanda salute it is it is i saw somebody on my timeline complaining about this like two three days ago also what's going on with the so like i yeah her head looks like banknote like coloring yeah but the rest of the photo doesn't it looks like they photoshopped a banknote photo of harriet tubman onto her head now listen listen okay i understand that that it would be an awesome thing to have cultural icons yeah heroes like harriet tubman represented on money and so on yeah but
Starting point is 04:04:53 on money's not on a debit card right away no but apparently the money thing's not going through all right okay apparently that got shut down all right so um but but on a debit card is already yes it's already far far cry yeah that is a far cry from the original plan to put it on money but i don't think it's up to the people making this debit card what i can't say is up to the people making this card is you can't just take you can't anything who's gonna stop them who's gonna stop them the concept of history what kind does not real isn't it okay so harriet tubman would have been a huge black pants fan probably not saying that that's not the case but i am saying oh god you just break your laptop i mean
Starting point is 04:05:51 there we go it's fine it's back can we just not can we like where do you think the underground railroad was going canada was just a pitch you was dropping them off in wakanda yeah okay it never got finished it was supposed to go to wakanda okay so so what you're saying is basically there's nothing wrong like if we just got we just got mary turner holding up the live long and prosper what's the problem it's a peaceful sign i'm gonna be real i have no idea who that is oh that's uh okay well history lesion it's not a fun one all right that's uh that's a lady that got uh strung up all right and had a baby cut out of her because of racism okay so yeah big old fun bad story no that's not
Starting point is 04:06:43 a good one no i didn't appreciate learning about that no not great no not a great now if you were to take other other oh live long and prosperous real dark on that one now if you were to take other cultural heroes throughout black history and other people throughout black history like you were taking take a mary turner and just have her holding up the live long and prosper and there's no problem with that we're just gonna go full star trek on it really well see live long and prosper isn't associated with like african african americans right okay what kind of thing is so i can understand the thought process but like okay so let's okay all right we can dial it back all right we can settle for roza parks doing the bat to see there we go i'm good with that okay
Starting point is 04:07:27 i don't know if you know this roza parks adam west best of friends you let a ride in the front with him in the batmobile which upon making that joke i realized there is no back to the batmobile just get a fucking twenty dollar bill with mlk hitting the dab not by the color of their skin but by how low their dab can reach all right that's a sick dab this is the worst oh you know i had to do it to him there's if you go back in time you probably find mlk standing with that like one hand over the
Starting point is 04:08:35 other stance and just recreate that shit okay well i can't believe that card is real it's really weird uh y'all need to get one uh i mean before it's pulled i would love to i would absolutely love so what if it's not only not pulled but it starts a new trend wow okay we start pushing the history push it well we already did history cool with the kids we literally just did that yeah we did our ideas are free update update the textbooks jesus flossing his way out of the cave that is not the same thing that is not the same i'm just thinking historical figures doing dumb shit no we've we've we've we've swerved off and we've already seen jesus doing the fucking da da da hey da da da hey we did see that so it's
Starting point is 04:09:32 you know yeah it's about the heritage uh and the commodification thereof oh boy well yeah marcus gone for you rocking a t-pose i'm down with it i'm down with it what was that a screenshot from an unreleased marcus carvey video game for power to intimidate um yeah that's fine that's fine that's a fine podcast we can leave that there we mocked some historical figures sure did gotten to a race argument which i totally lost yeah uh hey i'm surprised you know what i'll swerve it back a little bit but i'm surprised you've never heard of mary turner if you have it you should look that up and read that article i don't think there's a whole lot of good that will happen in my life by me reading that article knowing
Starting point is 04:10:25 about it is a pretty good yeah i don't i that doesn't seem to be a good one i suggest i know enough now thank you mm-hmm mm-hmm yeah yeah so happy black history month everybody black history month you know there's a real great moment the other day when i sat down to start my stream and page by the way somehow never saw re5 once ever and i and she's like oh cool where does it take place and i'm like oh sick this will be a lot of fun mm-hmm and then i realized midway into the stream uh uh shooting our way through kuju oh sick happy black history month everybody good game to stream no we have like i just i'm sorry
Starting point is 04:11:25 oh man you didn't see what i said yesterday when you were streaming barfield no plague plague no what no no play what did he do absolutely not that's not okay what did he do that is not okay he he wrote i'm not repeating that shit on the air plague of gripes wrote the main 1918 dabbings and we're done and we're out we're not we're not no that's not we're not elie went we're not that's the end goodbye everybody all right goodbye you you
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