Castle Super Beast - CSB 068: CRASBO: Die Now, Die Later

Episode Date: May 12, 2020

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Some boring music. Hey, Ope. Being awake is suffering. Being awake is suffering. Being asleep is nice. Being asleep too much is suffering. Yeah, it's true. Being asleep too long and getting to that point where it just hurts to lay down is

the real, true worst state. I don't think I've ever gotten there. Oh yeah. No, when you get sick and you spend all day in bed, you end up being in bed for so long that you are just sore and busted and it sucks. And then you kind of have to stand up and like spend your time on your feet in ways that are not fun, but lying down hurts. You never had that?

No. No. I mean, the last time that I can remember ever being like that was, was the, god damn it. I was three where y'all came to my house and they showed off the Breath of the Wild thing. Remember they had the, the huge Breath of the Wild stream that last like 10 hours? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I got the flu real bad and I was like sweating and being very ill in my room like 10 feet away from you guys. And you guys were like three, four hours into the stream before I walked out and said, you guys got to get the fuck out of here. And you all were like, oh man, and you all grumbled on the way out. And then I basically slept for like four days after that and it was great. Like time travel occurred. I think that's the last time I got the flu too.

I've had it. And it will be the last time I ever get the flu. Right. We're going on 75 days inside. You're counting? Why would you do that? Well, there's no, no, it's not fun to count. I don't find it fun.

Yeah, it's fun. I don't find it fun to count. But I will say that we can we can go back in time and be like the last day that I was outside like for real more than like one foot away from my door to move my garbage over was I think the day of the podcast that you were making fun of me for being a hoarder. And then like the day after or the day of Italy shut down and then Quebec started to get bad. I was like, OK, no, go out now.

I assume you're not counting runs. What runs? Like to grab anything. What runs? OK, all right. I've had runs to pick up stuff from here. The mail has provided. All right.

Fair enough. Well, most I have not walked more than than one foot away from this house. I have 75 days. OK, well, I have done I've been doing delivery and orders as well. But there's times when you also need to supplement that with, you know, a quick run to go get things that you need. So no, OK, well, I will say you're buying drugs.

I will say that, hey, you can legally get those drugs. Do you need you can legally get those in the mail now, too. Yeah. Well, we did that. That never works. That that should delivery wise was always unreliable before, but now it's just impossible. Is it not like, oh, yeah, like before before you before this, you would always go and everything good would always be sold out.

And now everything is just sold out. Totally can't get nothing, huh? Oh, you've been getting your drugs in the mail. I mean, what? I mean, I couldn't get them before. I assumed you wouldn't be able to get them now. Did they up? Did they upsell on production or some shit?

Like 72 hours, dude. Well, anyway, well, we're good. Yeah. Well, anyway, at least as far as CBD is concerned, but when it comes to when it comes to or heroin Yeah, you know, yeah, you still got to have the guy come to your house and it's awkward. So the the thing that I've been noticing as time has been going on is that like that there's definitely folks that I know are getting increasingly like sort of the more extroverted of my friends are having the hardest time dealing with things, obviously, you know,

and like a lot of that's pretty obvious. I have a I have a friend or two who I wouldn't say they're losing it. Yeah. But I would say that they're encountering a period of prolonged irritability. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. And they're they're just a little bit on edge. Yeah, Zoom Zoom meetings are more than just a fun Z.

They're an absolute necessity for some folks. And it's it's starting to, you know, like really hit those those those limits. I mean, you know, amongst other things, of course, but I guess it's just one of those times where I was like, oh, wow, introversion, super, super powers feel really good right now. Oh, yeah, I mean, we talked about that. I want to say like the second week, but like it's been two months now of my lifestyle. Yeah. But like in terms of like.

But in terms of just in terms of like if every day there's a little you take a step and there's a little poison number that that you know, I feel like we have some really strong equipment so that in the end it's like, well, I mean, certainly it is shitty to not be able to do all things. But all I'm saying is I feel like I've taken way less damage than some people that I know and I can see online are taking a lot more damage and some again, some of the more extroverted friends I have, you know. Yeah, like the core group of people that I talk to the most often are all almost

all MMO players and it's and it's like nothing is going on. Right, right. Like I am I am good friends with a health care worker. And for them, shit is definitely going on. But all in all, the day to day for most of the people that I know. I think my dad is having the hardest time out of it all. Honestly, I wonder what. It's HIKI-KOKI-KOKI-KOKI-KOKI-BORI culture is like right now.

I want probably lit. Is it is it probably like our time is now. It's popping off. Teach us the ways. Could it be that or could it be that it's like all these new Hicks are not these new Hikis are not, you know, they're not down with the culture. They haven't been here the whole time. Look at these new people.

They they were not forced into the basement by society. No, they were. They chose the basement. The new people were forced in the old ones chose it. You know, these Kikos, I suppose these Kikos are they're not real Kikos were the true ones. Are you searching for like the most offensive possible variation of this new term? Not offensive. I'm just searching for the one that slides off the tongue.

Oh, they all slide off to shit. You know, what would what would society if you had to say the word all the time? You're not going to always say HIKI-KOKI-KOKI-KOKI-MORI. So you're going to come up with shut in. Yeah, Neitz Neitz is there. But Neitz is a very need is specific. It's specific to and it's and it's European, right? Not an education.

You can be extra employment or training. Neitz Neitz, I believe Neitz is European. So, you know, that ended up getting borrowed over. Was it? No, it's not European. So what is it? I thought it was European. What is it? Like, take, for example, because, like, it is pointing out that, like, it's Japanese or Neitz.

Right. Yeah. It's like, Neitz is one of those square rectangle things where like a Hikikomori is a Neitz, but Neitz aren't necessarily Hikikomoris. Because, like, my brother is technically a Neitz because he's not in education, employment or training. But that's just because he's an asshole and can't keep a job. Right. OK. Like, he's he's just a fucking piece of shit.

You know what? OK. I just remembered there's another term that is British that I confused in my head when I remember when I was watching. I forgot what that was. That's super. That was a British superhero show. And they there was a dude that was called an ASBO. And this is an anti-social behavior person. And I and I was like, oh, shit.

Yeah, that was the other term I was thinking of. ASBO is the one that's that's British. That sounds like shit. Yeah. If you're an anti-social person, Misfits had that. And I was like, oh, OK. And then Neitz, the Japanese one. Right. OK. Right. Um, anyway, all that to say that

there's definitely got to be some sort of like some opinions are flying about how everybody must be living that life right now. And there might be some that that never leave it, you know. I I'm going to look back on my stream archive. And I believe I actually had a haircut, like a couple weeks before all this shit popped off, like in February. Which means. Yeah, you can always tell.

Which means I can, if I so choose. Yeah, I got a haircut back in maybe January, then we I can just let it ride. So and and become the human timeline. You know, you notice how. Now, now when you tell when you're when you're going, are you searching for the most offensive version of this? It's like like ASBO, which is just anti-social, right? That hits the ear in such a way where you go, oh, that that feels like it could.

It sounds right. It has like it. It has all the familiar properties of something that's like yikes, but it's not. Right. So the question is now is like, what if you're going to pick two or three syllables out of Hikikomori? He he you know, like what what are you going to grab there? Is it is it the key part? Is it the the H part?

Is it the Mori? Like what is the part that makes it go like I'd like to use some Star Trek here because this is what let me figure out what. Uh, created like what is what is the the the etymology of like the most racist sounding word possible? Mm hmm. You ever seen a Cardassian in Star Trek? They're the fucking snake dudes.

Yeah. Yeah. The they're the they're the the non Klingons. So the OK, that's one way to put it. So didn't they fight? Didn't they fight? Didn't they have wars? Yeah, they did. Yeah, right.

So they have two racist terms for them. The the the fucking flat out is just your Cardi's Cardi's right, which uses your your basic. Let's take the let's take the ethnic group or or nationality and shorten it with ease and then you have spoon heads. OK, because they have the divot in the middle of their forehead. Oh, OK. And those just hit.

Yeah. Yeah. That like spoon head sounds like fucking intense. Yes, it does. That sounds like what you call them as you're putting them down. It does. And it is OK. Well, there you go. And so what I think about it, it's like, OK, the your standard is blank ease.

That always hits. But Hicka Hicka Mori doesn't work that way because it already has Hickey and Mori, so Hickeys and more like it's yeah. Yeah. But English phrase, two syllable descriptor words. Or where you want to go. Right. And actually, it kind of in my head, it kind of rolls back to shut in.

Or or I don't know, the unwashed or. Yeah, I mean, I guess so. But like it's, you know, it definitely feels like you got to take you got to take two syllables. It's kind of the way it's kind of like the same similar to the way that Japan grabs two syllables and the first one of your last name and puts them all together. So you get the triple syllable shortcut, right?

The in this case, you kind of for English, you got to grab two. And then just yeah, you add the IES or the R at the end. Yeah, Hickers, Mori's. Yeah, there's there's I'm not doing that one. I'm not doing that. That's that's a fucking gun in my mouth. Well, just don't don't don't stumble over it. But in any case, it's just like I've always said that when I ran into her,

she was very nice, very talented, great cosplayer. But the very famous Jessica cosplayer, I don't ever want to say her full name. It feels like a trap. It's terrifying. All you have to do is slow down, hit your focus trigger. Dude, I have a speech and then I screw up work all the time. Wait for the circling like crosshairs to overlap. And when they overlap, you say Niggiri and then you nailed it.

It's it's so close. But you got to hold your focus button and wait for the overlapping cursors. That's it. Don't fuck up. Oh, shit, I heard it too. I hit it too early. I stumbled and then you tried to correct it mid sentence by cutting yourself off. Yeah. It's like when you try to say the Knicks and the Lakers at the same time.

Poor poor poor. Oh, that's what happened, isn't it? Poor sports announcer. That sucks. Yep. Language. But it's but it's also fun to see. It's like, you know, like, you know, like you hate to see it.

Well, I mean, I love to see it because I had no idea that those Potara earrings could create such a powerful warrior. Yeah, I'd been staring at these two basketball teams the whole time. And little did I know that we were one fusion away from absolute power. Disaster. Oh, yes, absolute power. Yes. Yeah. So. You know, anyway.

Oh, God, I love coffee so much now, dude. Coffee, good. Coffee, good helps water, help to water, help to. Oh, water can go to hell or more accurately in my coffee. So, I don't know. I did some stuff this week. Yeah, what's up, man? What's up, Mr.

Will, uh, excuse me. Well, I still have that that problem where we do like an hour and I realized we haven't said our names once. Yeah, from time to time, I think about it. And when I say hi, this is the name of the show that you clicked on. And you're just you're listening to the people who whose names are on the thing. But it might not be on the thing. You might even be hearing this via speakers on someone else's nearby.

Out loud device, in which case, I think the best way to listen of this podcast is garbled through some other guy's phone on public transit. Yeah, he has the volume too loud hanging off of a PSP chain. Is the optimal way to listen to Castle Superbeast chained up jacket open PSP on blasting at max volume this podcast. So, um, as far as stuff goes. Yeah. So one thing I did was and I'm pretty sure you did this to beat streets of rage for.

Yeah. How about that? Hey, it's really good. How about that? That's a fun beat them up. It's good stuff. It's really good. It looks really good.

I was hoping it sounds really good. I was I was hoping it feels really good. Yes, I was hoping we'd unlock other people throughout the story mode, but you got to go back through the game a bunch of times to get and do the others. You do unlock Adam, no, Adam, Adam, yeah, who is my favorite character by far. He is awesome. I I like Cherry, but I like the movement, you know, I like the the dash that he has. I like her, her run, that stuff adds a lot to it.

And of course, it's been a long time. Since I played streets of rage and man, I forgot how weird it is to play a fucking beat him up where the character has no run. Well, that's exactly it. Right. The the the idea is like if you're doing this traditional and if you grew up with these games, then you're definitely someone that's looking for the game to not have a run and to not have a lot of these things.

And it took a second because I was like, oh, I guess not. Huh? Right. OK, that must be faithful, right? And that's what's important. So I get it, especially when the other characters don't have any of that stuff. But I did appreciate having it. The the mobility, the speed of how you kind of go through it is definitely like.

I guess in streets of rage, I imagine it hasn't changed as much over the course of like one to three, whereas like final fight has had a bunch of different like they mix it up a decent amount in terms of mobility. And a couple of other games, like I mean, like I talk about Sen Goku sometimes, right? Like that's a game where like the difference between the first one and the and the last one is like humongous. Yeah, streets of rage one, two, three came out in a relatively short period of time. If I remember right.

And they were pretty similar. Like Alex or Axel Axel and Blaze were in both sorry, at all three and were like very similar. And then you had the two extras. I I dig the the hold input so that you get a little extra oomph and that you can you can leak a negative edge. Makes combos pretty fun when you're getting some nice juggles going. And then like once I get that little once I beat the game, I saw people doing

those juggles and I was like, I didn't do any of those. Oh, yeah, man, there's a counter for them. And like when you're playing, we went through a three, three players like you can really get some fun back and forth volleyball setups, so to speak, you know, air mobility, zero to death, Floyd combo, the first boss Jesus. Air mobility is rad in a lot of cases with cherry. I love the fact that you can do a Chun Lee headstomp into an air throw. That feels really nice.

There's these little little moments where you're just like, you know, it's a beat them up. So basically you're walking up the training dummies and you're trying to have fun with them, right? Like it's a bunch of a bunch of combo adjudicators that are occasionally swinging back at you and you just kind of do your thing on them. And then you get to mid bosses or like the annoying enemies, right? The stuff that the ones that have a gimmick to them.

So the fat boys, for example. And then it's like, OK, stop. It's assess, play the play properly, you know, or like the ones with armor. But then you kind of just find out that jumps are like a hundred percent invincible all the way through neutral jumps. Yeah, neutral jumps specifically. Yeah, just like jump straight up and everything just like goes right through you. Yeah, so fucking great, pretty incredible.

I had a lot of fun with it, really good. And I was imagining like what it would feel like to be like a fan, you know? And I feel like I would have loved what they did, especially putting in like the ability to go back to the old sprites and to go back to the old music and, you know, just putting in a ton of that love. I know there was some weariness when the trailers kind of were showing it off and stuff, and there were some people that didn't like the art style change. But I've seen mostly positive reception since it's dropped.

The art style looks great, man. In particular, I'm really impressed by the lighting, which is not something you usually talk about in a 2D side scrolling beat them up. But those sprites get lit by all sorts of background elements. It's also a bit looks great. It's also been. A while since I've been hit with such a strong like wave of dear God, I want to play as this boss.

Yeah, I. When I was playing through the gate, all of them, I saw like, oh, there's 25 unlockable characters. I'm like, well, she's got to be Estelle, like hasty, you know, Estelle, Max, the cool dude with the with the the guy that's like a Louis Kang kind of dude with the with the doppelgangers. So many of these bosses that come in and then you fight them. And then they do a super and you go, oh, oh, you you have to be playable.

You just did a super. The game acknowledged it with a super startup sprite spark. So, yeah, like absolutely. It was just kind of fighting those bosses and being like, damn, like, I hope I get a chance to touch you before we hit the credits. And unfortunately, we didn't. Still, though, like, wow, you know, at some of those designs coming in really strong, that map is gorgeous.

Yeah, just all in all, a really fun game. And it has it has an extra final stage off the map that the map lies to you about. You're like, yeah, another one. Woo. And the yeah. And the final stage has a nice little get focused immediately kind of moment to it where you got a you got to really earn that final battle, you know, like they throw quite a couple of good bit of challenges at you, including like a really solid one of just like,

yo, get your health, get your health back there. There are like, don't get touched. I feel like the the last third of that last level is like more than twice as hard as the entire rest of the game. Say that again. Sorry. I feel like that last third of that last level. Yeah. Is like more than twice as hard as the rest of the game.

Yeah, like I had no trouble at all. Getting all the way there and the instant I hit like that last half, like I just started dropping like a bitch. Yeah, no death count. Death counts definitely went up the most in that in that area specifically because it was like it's the it's the back to back of like, OK, play perfectly, right?

Get that get that full heel. Then you got the the purple biker girl, right? You got the armored biker girl. And then you get the you get the chandelier walkway, which is like not too bad, but then the fat room, you know, and the fat room is like you are going to lose stocks in the fat room. If you do, if you do not clutch it out, especially if you don't get the hang of like the perfect neutral jump

with like the the the original characters, the OGs and stuff like that. You know, so, you know, but once you get past that, you can definitely learn the boss patterns. There's definitely a, you know, a bit of a like, OK, like the startup of this attack is going to come flying at you. You cannot move fast enough to get out of its way. Time that jump, oh, dear God, or like walk down and make it so that the angle of that stab is going to like not be able to catch you type of thing.

But you got to you got to absolutely like, you know, learn the startups and the ins and outs of like their animations at some point. There's a real heavy amount of movement to it in that you get to have that feeling where the attack gets launched and you're like, I have fucked up. There's absolutely no escape for me now. If oops, oh, well, yeah. Something that I kind of I guess I don't know. I don't think Streets of Rage ever did it, you know, maybe maybe it did.

And I'm sure I'll be corrected otherwise. But I like when characters in beat them up can do like final fight and like have a dedicated weapon that is their style, you know. I don't think that's everyone kind of. It's pretty universal, right? Yeah, it's pretty universal. Yeah. Um, oh, by the way, well, before we get too far away,

I would like to have a correction from one Moth man. Oh, known UK person. Tell Willie that ASBO is what's given to kids for fighting and doing crimes that puts them under house arrest. It is not about being unsocial. Oh, it is for criminals. Thank you. For a clarification.

So for example, if my brother had a British accent instead of a French accent, he would be an ASBO. OK, anti social behavior order. It's a civil order made in the United Kingdom against the person who's been shown on the balance of evidence to have engaged in anti social behavior. It is a part of the Crime and Policing Act. And yes, an ASBO can be issued to conduct,

which is likely to cause harm, harassment, alarm or distress. And this is going to be out of nowhere. And I just want to say this, I just want to have your opinion when we can get right back there. Is it just me or is like criminal British youth, like the most pathetic and disgusting of criminal youth? I feel like it is. I'm not going to necessarily co-sign that.

I think there's a lot of bad, a lot of bad kids out there and bad in many places around the world that do bad things because Chavs are just horrible, man. And they talk like clowns. Chavs are pretty ridiculous. Chavs are pretty ridiculous. The the droogs and shit. Chavs are pretty, pretty, pretty ridiculous, admittedly.

But I don't think I don't. From what I understand, being a chav doesn't immediately make you criminal, but it makes you fucking annoying from what I gather. Then there's then there's a lot of doesn't make you a criminal, like shooting your first Surridge of heroin doesn't make you a drug addict. Sure. All right.

I mean, I would I would I would probably I probably say that. Yeah, every culture has got that like that class. You can speck into of just like absolute annoying douche version of a parody of this culture, you know. But I would like to interject for a moment because I was about to hit the second part of this in which it says the British government introduced Asbo's through the Crime and Disorder Act of 1998.

And in the UK, a criminally related Asbo is called a Crasbo. Get out. C.R.A.S.B.O. is a criminally related antisocial behavior order. So Crasbos are a thing. Dude, that's my favorite new term, Mothman.

Thank you. Thank you. You brought it home. British people have to make everything fucking hilarious. You brought it home, guys. We did it. That's the funniest thing I've ever. You did it. I'm not laughing because I feel like death, but it's in here. The Crasbos have a woken.

Oh, that is wonderful. I am all about that. Cool. Cool. So speaking of Crasbos, a bunch of bunch of near dwells on these streets need to clean it up. And who better to do it than, you know, our characters in Streets of Rage. Dude, those cities suck. They're really shit.

Wood Oak City, South Town, fucking River City, South Town, like these places suck ass. Don't live there. Not fun. Not fun. Yeah, I mean, look, you live, you live in a city that needs to be the backdrop for a beat them up. So that means there needs to be

one to five criminals per block at all times. Right? It's required. Every block needs to have one to five enemies to beat up. That no one cares if you beat them up because they deserve it. And the fashion for those criminals are is real clicky. You're going to see a lot of guys wearing the same jacket. See a lot of chicks wearing the same kind of undercut. Also, if you go to the mall,

there will be two normal people just kind of scared looking around and 80 fucking thugs inside the mall in any beat them up world. This economy even function anymore. I don't know who's walking into these stores. Is is it just like are we running with the Brazilian style? Everyone's an undercover cop or an off duty cop, rather. Everyone, everyone in dirty off duty cop.

Everyone in Brazil is an off duty cop. And there's just there's always someone around where it's like the moment a crime starts, it gets immediately canceled. It's kind of crazy. And maybe it's like that. Speak. Speaking of the crime city and crime economy, do you remember like ice teas, big fucking gift to us during the start of the covid quarantine era?

Do you remember what he tweeted out? It was unbelievable. What ice teas advice for surviving quarantine is if anybody owes you money, you know they're home right now. Right, right. Thanks, buddy. Yep. Helpful. He's got his sad card.

He's a he's a. There's a there's a real actor like nobility to having no character development at all. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like at all. That's pretty funny. So yeah, good game, good game. I would recommend it. And I I would also recommend it.

I'm not somebody who knows a ton about the streets of wage franchise, but I got a chalk and I should be, but I don't. I got to chalk up another good one for dot emu. You know, they're working their way out of that really bad first impression. I got when they started handling the the SNK games. Oh, that was them, wasn't it? Yeah, for those who might have missed it a couple years ago, they ported some streets.

Sorry, some SNK games to PC and they were abysmal. In particular, I remember trying to run Last Blade on my computer and it was like just a terrible port. And then we tried to run metal slug on my computer. And again, it was not great. And when I went to go look at the install files, what I found was an emulator and an actual ROM dump of the ROMs from the Internet.

As the product that I purchased, just here you go. They took the ROM dumps from the Internet and they put them in an emulator that ran the game worse than other emulators did. And you could grab that emulator, that same zip file and put it in any other fucking emulators folder and then run it and it would be better. It was crazy. It was like an inferior version of MAME and or Neerajax or any of the other things out there, you know, it was wild.

So that was a very, very dumb move at the time. And I remember being like, this is like the worst part of this is that, like, in addition to just selling a fucking emu folder, it runs and it runs badly, you know. So that was a really can't be much worse than. Then the way 505 is treating shit right now. How's that? Oh, is that on the docket this week?

But the skull, not the skull girls, the indivisible stuff for 505. Oh, I did hear about that. Yes. I mean, there's that is there's something there's something really bad about like just hitting up emu paradise and calling it a day. That is a little bit shit. Oh, yeah, that's that's pretty bad. But the way that 505 has been handled. So they they were also, yeah, I think they're doing a bloodstained as well.

And so do you want to just contact with the devs? Yeah, we can. Well, I was just I don't know how much you if you want to just sort of into that. We can definitely bring it up and we hit the docket. But like, yeah, the indivisible switch port has some problems that were that happened. Oh, yeah, we'll talk about in a second. So there are some problems. I did want to say one thing before we go on.

But like the biggest problem is that the game has released on the switch for a higher monetary value than like the backer price. Exactly. Or any of the prices the game has ever been anywhere. And it's been on sale in other places. Well, this is this is this is the story. So, yeah. And well, my brain bad today. OK, well, that's fine if we're talking about it.

And that sucks. They all first the first thing we heard about Skull Girls on the switch was the labs lab zero didn't even know it happened. And they basically were like lower there basically were just like, oh, shit. It's it's live. I guess you can go buy it. We didn't even know you could. But you could. And then we found out the right version.

It was, yeah, well, to apparently there was some stuff about it that was not really handled well, where they're like, this doesn't feel like the indivisible should. And then third it went on sale. And then people were basically one getting it on at that sale price when people that back the original were still waiting on their switch version. They didn't get those codes for the game yet. And it was just kind of a thing because they paid more to back it

than, you know, the 505 like just dump in release. And then sale cost was so everyone who kind of supported the game from the jump ended up getting fucked over there. So that sucks. It's a very, very, yeah, shit situation. And from what I can tell, it seems like every step along the way is based on publisher not communicating at all with devs

and just kind of doing things on their own. Hey, bro, we got we got the we got the thing high five. Yeah. Let's let's ship it. So do it. So that's that's a huge boo. And oh, Wally, did you just do a computer noise? That's hilarious. Well, it didn't pick up on the MP3, but there was a computer noise.

Yes. OK. That's that's super funny, because people always get freaked out and confused and like, oh, no, my computer. Only for the live stream, not for the actual audio. Take that live nerds. Ah, got to keep them in their in their place somehow. Well, luckily, the takeaway from this story is that if you have a switch, you probably shouldn't pick up indivisible. A piece of advice that could be expanded to everyone.

It sounds because the game is bad. Well, it's better on other stuff. I'll say that. I'll say grab it on the other platforms for a superior experience. And also a better multiplayer experience now that they've patched that in. So. Oh, it doesn't have the multiplayer in it. It's not the patched version. Which version? Yeah.

So the new so the the the version on other stuff that that they handled themselves got patched to have the new game plus content, to have the multiplayer content and to have the extra challenging rooms and stuff. And all of that stuff is not in the switch version because, again, Lavzir didn't work on it. So, you know, it's it's they didn't handle inserting the new content either. Boo. OK, well, anyway. That's lame. Yeah.

Boo 50 apparently bloodstains also like been fucked up by them in very similar contexts. Frame rate, I heard issues. Although that's that's a bit of a switch thing sometimes. And like the versions are super late. Yeah. Yeah. So that sucks, the switch owners getting shafted on the regular with some of these these ports is it seems like it's an afterthought. Yeah. But that's what's up.

But anyway, I just wanted to say that the whole reason why we got on this tangent was just to say that dot M. You started out with some really not great products at the bottom of the barrel. And then they got wind jammers together and that was pretty solid. And now they're working on another got streets of rage going. And that's pretty good. Another working on wind jammers, too, which I touched it at a demo booth. And I thought that was pretty good, too.

So I, I, you know, I'm happy to see that things are improving. Seems like it's tightening up. Although not to before I fucking forget because that's still publishing, though, development wise. Who are the guys that actually made streets of rage for? Unfortunately, not dong dong never die. I wish it was dong dong never die that made streets of rage for. What's extra crazy is that the dong dong screenshots still look

like like because the dong dong PSP ones were like, oh, what about the old art style in the new world? And so is this. So there was a second when I was playing it. I'm like, there's no. It's not. It's not. It's not. But but but but it could be a lizard cube and guard crush games are the are the the devs. Yeah. So shout outs, shout outs, shout outs to them.

The other thing I did this week was. Took a look at the Melty Blood. Actress again, current code. I saw you had trouble running that for your stream. Well, so there's like it wasn't playing nice. So there's a story to Melty Blood in that like you need to. If you were to just be like, yo, go check out Melty Blood, it's a good game. What would you do?

You would jump on steam. You would see it. You'd buy it and you start playing it. But the problem is that like that is not the optimal way to go about playing this game with the community. The community is not playing that version of the game. If you want to play with people because that's outdated because it is it's post dated.

So that version of the game came out after the community version of the game and it had delay based net code. But the community version of the game is a rollback based version that was that was community made and it uses something called. That's fucking crazy. So it uses something called CC Castor. And it is a it is a command prompt. It runs in DOS, basically.

And it Jesus Christ, and it just replaces your entire main menu with settings, net play, training versus whatever modes you want to go to. You just do it through this DOS prompt and then you assign all of your controls and setups through that. And then you go into the net play and you basically go online and then you get your your IP and then you are you get whatever. So if someone creates a room, you know, and then you send it to the person and then you guys can lobby up and play and then you can set your rollback.

You can select your your your settings for that. But for the most part, it auto detects and then you can play perfect net code, multi blood with each other. So this is the dude. If this feels like an experiment in how to take an obscure genre or a genre that's hard to get into like fighting games and figure out what is the absolute maximum level of bathroom level? Obscure nonsense to get into.

Yeah, possible. No, the fact that you, a guy who has a show called Get into Fighting Games and has been in the fighting games for longer than I've known you, had a situation where he's like, how do I turn this on? Yeah, like is so absurd. I had the fact that you just said DOS to me. You said the D word. So I had some trouble setting that up

because initially it would not react, it would not respond to my stick inputs. And then eventually it was responding, but it would only take one input at a time. And then I'd have to close the program, reopen it. Some people have had compatibility issues by running it in compatibility mode to make it work, you know, perhaps. So there's a bunch of things I went through. But for the most part, what I will say is they did go through lengths to basically create.

There's a there's a paste bin and a two minute YouTube video that basically says, here's how you do it. You grab the game from here. You put this for it has this on zip it here, run this thing. And then the game will then then you set up your game of how you want to. Right. Like, dude, you're talking about turning on a fighting game like it was installing big titty mods in a new way. It is. It is like that.

They've they've definitely gone through the trouble of like putting it all in one zip file and making sure that you can kind of just click where you need to and start it up. They've tried to simplify the entire process as much as possible, which, you know, kudos and credits to the community because, you know, it's not the same like if you had to go hunt down the pieces and put them together yourself, then this would have been bad. But it's not that they kind of like tried to they like tried to put it all together.

But yeah, it is confusing on just the base level of telling people to go get and check out Meltyblood. There's a you have to check out the not official version of it, right? So it's kind of like you get the sea caster community version and it's pretty much free. It's out there. You grab that. And then it's like you can buy it on steam to support because, you know, support French bread, but this is kind of how we had to set it up.

Um, it was frustrating, especially at first. Once I got past that stuff, it did work. The net code was pretty perfect. I don't like the fact that you have to exchange IPs to connect and that you have and, you know, you go to discord and you can kind of like. Yeah, I'm not going to do that. Yeah. So the ever. Well, the way I did for a multitude of reasons, the way I did it was

I joined other people's lobbies and we just whispered at each other. Yeah, for the most, you know, instead of like going, going outright and whatever. But that, you know, that's what the discord has set up is that you can go in and when you're when you're searching or whatever, it'll post and you can pretty much see a list of whoever's searching for games and stuff. But that's where that's at, you know, so all that to say. Set up stuff aside. That is some poverty shit, man.

But when it worked, it was very fun. I enjoyed the game a lot. I enjoyed it, in fact, so much that I was planning to play two games that night. But instead, I just played the one kept going, damn, got some got some good sets in and I would like to touch it again in the future because, yeah, I just I had a lot of fun with some of the some of the crazy fucking beasts came out and showed us what's what and what the game is supposed to look like. It was it was great.

It was great. I saw some shit like I remember back in the day, I played Multi-Blood, the original release, and I was always about Seattle. I was a Seattle main in that. And the game has, you know, we I mean, we touched back on Fisticuffs one episode, but like there's a bunch of stuff going on. I was like, oh, wow, they have her holding the pile bunker out the whole time now. Like that was my my favorite thing about her was the fact that she her level three was she pulled out a pile bunker and now they just have her in that full mode.

So I'm like, that's sick roast beef is still cool. You know, there's there's a bunch of there's a bunch of characters in that Nero chaos, the dude with six hundred and sixty six beasts in his coat. He'd open up his jacket. He was like he was like a street creep and you'd open up his jacket and then like does he have more does he have more coat? Yes, more beasts come out of his coat. Depending on the groove you pick.

So I'm used to be like the Ravens and the and the stag and the big like praying mantis claw and like now there's like a bunch of other ones. Yeah, man, there's some good. There's some cool shit. There's some cool shit. I had a lot of fun with it. I it's not going to happen. And French bread is clearly one hundred percent rightfully focused on the under night community and the under night franchise.

But it would it would. Oh, man, I never even put together that those are from the same developer. Yeah, they should they should focus on under night. No offense, multi blood. Yeah, French bread soft circle is focusing on under night in birth. It's that the under night. I wouldn't say it has a foot in the door, but it has a foot out of the dumpster. It has a pretty solid foot in the door.

Uniclear is that's right. It was that Evo. Uniclear is a pretty, pretty loved game right now. So let's let's let's say that it's it's dragged the dumpster to the door so that it can straddle the line. I mean, was it ever really in the dumpster? It's it's it's under night. It's it's a good game.

But. For what it's were, although it's about the people who play these games. All right. Well. Anime fans. Yeah. Also, multi blood players. Yeah. And and like we got all all bathroom jokes out of the system. You know, because I'm like, you know, I'm sure the community and it's like as I

was able to discover like everyone who plays this like if you if you hear the words, multi blood every couple of months and you go law bathroom, right? That's a very different perspective from you play it on the regular every couple of days, every multiple times a week and it's law bathroom every 72 hours, it's a very different thing. So yeah, I get it. I get it, you know. Grand conclusion here, very fun game.

I'd like to revisit it. I would love for there to be a way to make a friendlier way, a friendlier presentation to integrate, you know, C.Caster into into an official release somehow or something, it would be really nice. Or at least a less fucked up way of just turning it on because the the process you described seems like arcane. I mean, to be perfectly honest, if they just grabbed the steam edition

and put rollback into that, that would pretty much solve the problem. Problem solved. Yeah. That would be the fastest way to solve the problem, you know. Just doing just do an update to it, you know, but but any in any case, man, I have, hey, I have like a I have like an idea. Why don't we just take the official release of every fighting game on steam and just just put rollback into it? I mean, you can probably.

Let's just do that. You probably can. If you are, you know, one of the geniuses that is able to make something like C.Caster or one of the that's what that's what I'm fucking code masters has been doing, right? Or code mystics, rather, with a bunch of these old fighting game releases, they've been taking things like for Samurai Shodown 5 special and just going, like, oh, yeah, we put rollback in it now, you know, why does last blade

to have better code than Street Fighter five because it's being added in post to like a game that is more or less like being emulated. So you can kind of just make it run through the emulator as opposed. Why don't they just emulate Street Fighter five? Well, Street Fighter five from the ground up is it has to be built properly with with net code with rollback net code and it wasn't. No, just I don't know how this works. So just run Street Fighter five inside itself as an emulator

and then put the net code on it like a like a sauce. The answer is that it's poor the net code sauce over it. Yeah, it's much easier to do it with old games that you're emulating than it is to do with new games that are running, you know, in a different framework from that. But it's still hard work no matter what. It's still a lot, you know, but this is this is this is the short version of it. That being said, the product is worth the trouble.

Because it's necessary. So do it anyway, you know, is is the like, look how long skull girls and fucking K.I. are lasting. Like, yeah. So anyway, that's that's multi blood. Maybe that's part of the reason. Maybe they don't want their games to last so they can sell you the new game later. So streets of rage for multi blood.

And lastly, so Kotor is continuing having a good old time with that. Boy, was I happy with the. With the with the planet that we landed on and the events that occurred in there. Super duper good. And with that, I've been a little bit curious about, you know, some of the ins and outs of the Star Wars because there's some new stuff going on. So I've been, you know, oh, God, I've been I've been I've been delving a little bit.

You know, I'm still kind of going through Clone Wars and it's it's up and down in the first season. It's a bit hard to get through some of the the the rough ones. But, you know, I know it gets a lot better later on. You just have to kind of either a like grin and bear it or be skipped to it or whatever the case is. But we'll see where that is. But that's not what I want to talk about right now.

Although it did come to my attention, something I realized that a big part of the a lot of the like holy shit, fuck yeah, Clone Wars stuff, in addition to the fact that it got a lot better later on was that there is a group of there's a generation of people that grew up with that as their primary Star Wars experience when they were kids. And it didn't quite land with me that that like the timing was such that this was what people were like primarily focusing on as their Star Wars experience, a group of kids in their like early 20s right now, for example.

And that explains why such strong feelings were being sent our way about it. Because I remember, like I said, at the time, my experience, not to go over it for the millionth time, but, you know, saw Gendy Wars, loved it. Then saw the trailer for the movie, thought that sucks because I wanted more Gendy, went to see the movie anyway, was horribly disappointed and went this sucks. But if you were growing up at that time, you managed to ride that wave out until it got good. And so you have really fond memories of the best parts of that, but you're

possibly forgetting about some of the really slow beginnings that it takes a while to get through and some of the fillers that are really not great. But that's not what I what I wanted to talk about. I mean, I've said I've said this over and over as an example and I brought up a I'm going to be on coffee with Clems this week and I brought it up there. But like they're like 15 year olds for which like only final fantasies like 12 onwards came out in their lifetimes. Like the context of what brand is to people of different ages is fucking wild.

Yeah, I think the the the the the recommends basically are more accurately. Clone Wars is really good, asterisk and then like a list of list of the good ones. But that's not what I want to talk about. What I want to talk about is the Darth Vader comics that came out in 2018. We got this this run of Darth Vader stuff that is basically no, it's known as to put it accurately because there's a couple of different Vader comics out there. These are specifically

the Star Wars, Darth Vader, Dark Lord of the Sith comics, that's what they're called. And four graphic novels here, reading through, I'm on the third one. And guess what, they're good. So far, I've read the first two. And they're pretty fucking all right, man, in particular. So I feel like I have a built it because I've seen parts of these comics and they are good. People put like certain pages up on the pages that get posted are usually over from this a lot of time. Yeah. Yeah, they're they're really good.

There's a real I have a real problem with it. And it might be because I'm not a comic book fan, right? And it's not even specific to comic books. Is it that but no amount of cool ass Darth Vader moments in a comic book are going to fucking erase I hate sand. Yeah, that's what I thought. It's coarse and rough and it gets everywhere. That's what I thought.

Yeah. So basically, it is that the the the movies themselves will forever be what they are, no matter what the supplementary material is, correct? I agree. I agree. And like the fucking like, I don't want to get all in the canon argument, but like that you can't like remove like the films are like the definitive source material. So you can never be like, oh, the comic says, oh, that was actually not really as lame as it was. It's like, no, it was totally as lame as it was. Anakin Skywalker sucks and is fucking lame.

So here's what's up, right? To go back to Clone Wars for a second. Part of what Clone Wars does is attempt to make his character make more sense in between. Yeah, but it's also supplementary material compared to the movie. It is certainly not the primary like point on the on the on the timeline. The movies are the big ones totally and you cannot get away from that, right? I think if you go into some of this stuff, hoping to make the existing bad stuff better, that's the wrong energy to have.

I just picked this up and started reading it because I want to read a cool Darth Vader comic. That's like it hits it hits my brain and I'm glad we all have context for this now. If you listen to last week's podcast, but it hits my brain where you open up page one of this really good Darth Vader comic and the first page is like, hey, do you guys remember Darth Vader? He was the coolest guy. He was the coolest guy in your light. And you're like, wait, wasn't he fucking lame and he was the coolest guy?

Don't don't look at that. Hey, don't don't look at that over. They don't know Beto him. They don't know Beto him to put it another way. And I can never see Darth Vader as anyone other than like a pathetic 17 year old guy like crying while begging his older girlfriend for sex. Like that's Darth Vader. Darth Vader is Supreme and he's the worst.

Lame, hate and Christianson being pretty bad. Yeah, that's that doesn't go away. That doesn't go away. But if there's a cool story here and it's a good comic, I want to read it. I'd like to find out about the good thing. I want to know what's good. I want to know what's happening. I want to know why why people like it here.

So I think because I have no disagreement with what you're saying that I can. But I'm accepting that and I'm still going to sit down and open up the book and turn the pages because I want to know what happened. And I did. And then I've read through the two of them. This is where I become like a real asshole and I go, but it didn't happen because it's EU and I know and I know and I know that this conversation goes nowhere because I know that the end result is going to be.

But if you cannot replace what the movie's done, then why even bother? And then the answer is just because the thing in front of me has good stuff in it that I want to know about. I don't care about that part. I'm not trying to replace the bad. It's it's it's still fucking bad about. It's not even about replacement. It's it's I have trouble getting into a story when I have to put

like my my cap on that says this story probably doesn't count and didn't happen. So a really good example is the EU, like the old Star Wars EU, the fact that everybody just snapped their fingers and oh, yeah, no, that shit happened. It's like it's fanfiction. It doesn't it doesn't count. It never counted. Right. But all of this stuff. This is the basis of this is underneath is that it's almost the basis of this

viewpoint is kind of like there's a hierarchy and the movies are this foundation of that that is kind of like sacred. But to me, when these these ones were so bad to begin with, I kind of just. I don't really care. I'm just reading this to see what's in it and to see what's good about it and see what I like about it in the same way that I can play Kotor and like what's happening in Kotor, still knowing how bad the other things in Star Wars are and be like, oh, I like this part.

This stuff was good and it's not real smart thing. They didn't go to and I know that was they got Kotor as far away from that shit, but I know that there's a lot of people that are like as a result looking for Revan to be as relevant in the canon as possible. And I know that that doesn't lead to anywhere pleasant. So I'm kind of like, yeah, I'm playing a game that doesn't matter. That doesn't exist, but there's still such good shit in it that it's worth playing. So it would be silly to say, don't play Kotor.

None of it matters when so much good shit is in Kotor. No, see, here's the thing. There's nothing in Kotor that is contradicted by anything in anything. And Kotor is in its nice little safe bubble where it can live forever and has no problem. But when you're sure there, how Admiral Thrawn was a clone in all this shit of the fall of the Empire remnant, I'm sure it's handwaved away. Pat, I'm sure there's tons of things in the Kotor games

that go against the other things that existed in different Star Wars lures. Like there's so much going on in Star Wars that there must be tons of things that overlap that are different about that. There has to be. There's no question. The point is, everyone's saying wrong, but I played through both Kotors, I don't remember anything in the original three or even six films that argues with Kotor at all. The point, ultimately, is just there's some things I hear about

in Star Wars from time to time that I go, I want to know more about this because that sounds pretty cool. And the most I can do is just check it out on its own and pretty much almost preemptively agree that whatever I'm reading is its own thing. If it connects to other things, then I guess it could. But I'm not going to sweat it too much because there's so much disjointed bad and good in Star Wars that it's too. It's like it's there's no point even trying to piece that all together.

The Mandalorian was a show that I enjoyed watching. Glad I watched it. It fits into this place. It kind of has this content. It does a bit of that. But you can't erase the mistakes of the of the shit movies. You can't. Those are always going to be there. You know what? But it's not going to make me stop stronger from checking out this stuff. That seems pretty cool.

I think it's a lot stronger for me when it's specific people like characters. Like when it's general setting things, it doesn't bother me as much. But when you go, this character who is like this actually wasn't like this. It's like, what? Yeah, like it feels like so it feels like trying to build a house on a bad foundation. Well, I'm like talking about these comics, right? For example, like they're they're cool. They're good. They're well done.

I enjoyed the first two of the four that I have here. And, you know, in the end, I'm probably going to just look at it and say like, wow, that was really well done. It's a shame they didn't do that in the movies. It's a shame that the people that wrote these did something better with Vader in his immediate first years than what George did. You know, it sucks that that's what happened.

This is a better take on the character. And I can. Well, what George and Abrams and Johnson and a lot of people did. Anakin. Talking about I'm talking about Anakin. Rogue One has this problem as well. Well, I'm talking about I'm talking about Anakin.

I'm talking about Anakin's and Rogue One. Yes, but specifically the the the derpiness that comes from Hating Christensen, Anakin hanging out in those movies in two and three. And then, like, how that I. Let me see if I can put a point on my confusion and maybe you can explain it to me, which is.

So I mean, I read I read a comic about or half of one anyway, about an imperial soldier who tried to become Darth Vader's friend. Yeah, that was the one of the one of the ones that was a cool one. And Darth Vader ends up just being like a fucking asshole. And it was a horrible mistake. And there's some cool stuff that happens in that and Vader's cool and there's interesting stuff happening. How are you able to separate the fact that like Darth Vader?

Oh, my God, he's so cool and evil and he's such a monster from him like balling his eyes out and begging for sex and crying about his mom after he killed a bunch of babies. I'm not trying to fold them into the same folder. I'm not trying to create. But they don't. But they let it's literally the same character. I'm I'm reading a story that this writer wrote about Darth Vader

and I'm seeing how I'm seeing how they handle this, the the the character. I know that in the hands of Lucas, it's this. I know what it is already. I don't like it. I think it's very poor and when I see what's being done here, I'm like, oh, that's a cool take on it and I'm able to walk away with that. I'm definitely not going to sit there and argue. I think I here's where I here's what I think, right?

The type I think the the the way your point works and the and the stance that I agree with is when somebody were to try to argue that. No, no, no, he's not that guy you saw in the movies. He's really this cool guy from the comic and this is what matters. And you didn't see the cool stuff because it all happened here, right? If someone were to have that point of view and try to push that as like you need to go read all the other cool stuff that happened outside of these movies, that would be silly.

That'd be super dumb. I am. They have no ground to stand on the most baffling response, which is those aren't the same character. They're different people that like I don't I'm a personalities change. And I'm like, no, no, that's what people talk about. Well, like that's not what I'm saying is always portrayed differently. And Spider-Man changes. No, no, no. That's definitely not what I'm saying. Those things are terrible.

I'm I'm definitely that's not I'm I don't I'm not saying they're different people. I'm not saying that at all. I don't I don't agree with that. What I am saying is everyone lost their mind. Like no, it's just it's there's a final step in which you're trying to fold this in and go, well, this is Darth Vader, I guess. And and it's hitting the incompatibility of Hayden Christensen. And then you're going so thus the whole effort is for not. So don't bother.

And I don't need to do that step. I can just read this thing and go, oh, that was a good story about Darth Vader and not care about whether or not it changes the perspective of him or doesn't because I'm taking this as a story that was written here by someone else and someone that was more competent. And I and again, what am I at the end? I go, well, you know, that is a that is another author's take on it.

I sure wish it was as good when the originals came were around. But it isn't, you know, but I don't really. And again, I'm sure that I'm also poorly arguing my point here. I'm sure someone smarter could do a better job explaining why it's not stupid to just pick up a story and want to read it and enjoy the story. Like, I feel like I have to break this down to such a ridiculous step to get through because, you know, the pat breakdown of these topics. But at the end of the day, I guess it always breaks down to I don't get fanfiction.

I guess. And to me, I'm like this, if I flip through this and there's some if there's things I enjoy inside of this book, I'd like to see those things. This is the beginning of the feeling. This is enough for me to want to pick the book up and start opening it. What else happens is not as important as the step, which is I think there might be some I heard some cool things in this.

I want to see them, right? I don't need to go through a a. A step afterwards, necessarily. I don't know. The Darth Vader stuff in particular is extra complicated because, like, I distinctly remember watching the writer of one of these comics get into arguments over whether or not like Palpatine is Vader's dad after he wrote a comic that says Palpatine is Vader's dad.

And then Disney told him that he couldn't do that. And so he goes on Twitter to argue. People's like, listen, I'm the writer. That's not what I wrote. And everyone's like, it's literally what you just wrote. Why? I mean, some folks like some folks will argue because that like this book is canon because it's printed. It's printed under the new Disney thing, and it is considered official.

So they do say that whatever happens in these books is supposed to be part of the the Vader thing or whatever. But I'm not even going to do the movies aren't even canon. But I'm not even going to I'm not I'm not going to go as far as to even make that my main point, if anything, right? Like, I don't care personally how you choose to to look at the book and whether or not it's it folds in or explains the character in any way. I just look at it as I want to read the story about Darth Vader.

I hear it's pretty cool. And then I read it. But Darth Vader sucks now, dude. Well, Darth Vader sucks since like the aughts. The comic the comic had some pretty cool stuff that I liked in it. And I thought I would talk about it because I read through two comics this week that I thought were good. I was going to talk about some stuff that I think was pretty awesome that they did.

And then I was going to probably go, you know, here's an example of how you can use this character to better build off of what the original trilogy started. As opposed to what we got in two and three and just kind of go like, man, this writer did some good stuff that that, you know, George wasn't able to do. And then I was probably going to talk about the introduction of like, you got to have a new canon. You got to have some some other people swing in lightsabers around because, you know, even though you only have two Sith,

they introduced the idea of these inquisitors and that works its way into the the the new game, of course. So like now we get to kind of have like, all right. And then also the final season of Clone Wars. So now you have like a way where there's like lightsaber fights, but you don't have to create more Sith necessarily. Because otherwise you're like, where were all these people in the last movie? So they found their way around that.

I would like to I would like to to handle one last thing before we go forward because I feel like it's the perfect encapsulation of this argument. There is a guy spamming chat like an asshole asking, well, Pat, does everything cool that Boba Fett ever did get erased because he fell into that Sarlacc pit and that was lame? And the answer is what cool shit? None of that shit ever happened ever because it was all EU shit that got erased.

He has literally never done anything other than fall into a pit. So, yeah, I guess. I totally I guess it totally does erase like the coolest thing he did ever in his life was be Django Fett's lame clone baby and then figure out how to follow Han Solo one time in Empire. Untold Mandalorian and then he and then he fell into a pit and died back in like 79 until Mandalorian season two. OK, which we'll find out.

We'll find out he hasn't done anything yet. Yeah, we'll find out soon. Like he's got a cool design, but that's it. We will find out soon like the question is, well, what about all that cool shit he did? You mean like nothing? Yeah, you mean like literally nothing ever so until later this year. So that's not the stance I would ever take.

I think that's because I'm like you're arguing like stuff that happened in supplemental material. It's still canon, but like I don't like this. There's a there's a an argument here where again, I think that person stands and like where you are is based on this idea of like and thus in conclusion, Darth Vader is cool. And it's like, no, I don't see things that way, right? Because I know and I guess this is just coming off of knowing how comic books are written

where it's like, man, this version of Captain America is way different from that version of Captain America, you know, and like who what's up with that? It's like, oh, who wrote that? Oh, that was this. OK. OK. Yeah. Oh, wow, cool. Which this leads to the argument I always had, which is which is the good run of this, which is the real one. And you went, I don't understand. And I went comic. Yeah. Yeah.

And then you would tell me to read All Star Superman, basically. So here we are in the which is an example. It's just like there's there's good and there's bad. And these characters are large IPs that different people grab and tell stories with. And that's terrible. Yeah, it's not as it's definitely not as great as as a singular. Those people should make their own characters. I prefer a singular good story.

I prefer the way a manga handles it, in most cases. I we've we've definitely had this discussion before. It is nice when you can just get a consistent part to part, you know, like you get your your Berserk or your or your your JoJo or your everything that just travels and goes down the line. Fucking Captain Tsubasa has been running forever. But but outside of that, what we have here is a collection of stories because of the way

the way that for whatever reason, the industry is the way it is. We have a collection of stories. Some are good, some are bad. I enjoy reading the good ones because if they're well told, then I can have fun with those. And I don't need much more than that. I just enjoying something that's well done is good enough of a reward for me to decide to peruse it.

Does that part make any sense? Like, you know what I mean? OK, I don't know where to go then because because it can't be good because it features a character that's been ruined. You can't unruin character. Once they're ruined, they're ruined. Like, I'm not watching Picard on purpose so that, like, I don't have to fucking live in the world in which

fucking TNG Picard becomes like a fucking psycho. OK, dude. All right. So you know what? That's fine. Live in that world, miss out on stuff that might be good, and that's OK. You can you can sit there. I won't try to pull you out of that tower. But I would still like to talk about what I like about the Star Wars comic book

and what I think is cool about it. Oh, there's cool stuff in there. And if you don't and if you are unable to enjoy something for what it is, then sure, man. You know, I hope you get some good stuff you like someday. There's tons of good stuff to like. Yeah. In Star Wars, I mean. Oh, OK, because I was about to yell out like I don't want to hear

talk about I hope I get good stuff I like when you just fucking went through the end of Naruto for fuck's sake, like, holy shit. Oh, yeah, that was great. That was great. I'm glad I was able to find out my to speak my curiosities. You know, there was a dude, there was a dude who was like, why you because I was posting stuff about the ending. And the dude was like, why would you choose to spend your time

going through this garbage Naruto shit and and and watching this instead of watching like, you know, Hunter Hunter and stuff. And I'm like, I didn't watch shit. I played two fucking cyber connect games specifically because I didn't watch it. I don't watch anything. You dodged most of those. I put the energy into fucking consuming it via this format specifically so that I didn't have to watch it.

So God bless. But no, I hope there's something in Star Wars that you enjoy sometime and that it's able to not be ruined so that you can enjoy those things. I can I don't have that caveat. I can just read this and go, yeah, that's a Vader. And here's what they did with it. Um, I mean, like one of my one of my my questions was like, how do you my first thing? The first thing I when I was hearing about this that I had, I was like,

how do you like handle a character that yells no, in the goofiest way possible? And you mean do not want do not want. And the moment that the comic starts is it starts on the no page, it starts on the no moment and it does it. Oh, it actually starts literally starts there. The first page of the comic is is the no moment. And it's like, what if it was not as lame?

I guess because it was definitely, you know, the way, you know, they handle it in a they handle it in a different way. And I was like, oh, that's interesting. I'm not I'm not pretending he didn't yell it in the lamest way possible. He totally did. But this way it goes through it. Is it there's a he kind of just has a much more believable take to it. That leads it to him actually like kind of swinging at the emperor for a second

or like attacking the emperor for a minute. And then like, and then it kind of goes from there. Um, and it kind of just goes through like, I'm like, OK, so if you had to, you know, if you had to if you had to go through this process of newly formed Vader being brought into the empire and no one really knows who this new sudden high ranking officer is and why he's so important and why they have to listen to him and then how they go about like, you know, there's the the order 66, but there's always the remnants and the cleanup

of the remnants, of course, is the other part of it. It just it kind of works through a couple of the order. Sixty six was like one of the sloppiest things ever in the movie because it's like, really, you got everybody in like a day instantaneously. Right. You're like, how the fuck, right? And it's like, you know, it's like, no, they didn't. This is a setting with trillions of people. Yeah, they certainly didn't.

They they had to go scurry and clear them out. And it's like, and you know, and in fact, I remember most it was pretty much consensus that it was like between three and four. That's what Vader was doing. He was just like jetting around, like sticking his lightsaber in cubby holes, you know. And so this kind of pits together, you know, like some events that are like, oh, yeah, OK,

that that could be how they would have done that. And yeah, I mean, in particular, it leads to so far the first book handles like him, how he gets his lightsaber and like how he has to go about it. It does a second take on the how to make your lightsaber red bit, which is not much better. It's not much better than than the rat ghoul nest. I think it's the rat ghouls in Kotor and in Kotor one, where you go in the caves where you have to you have to get out of the eggs.

Right. So it's it's not it's not much better than that, but it's a different version of it where it's basically like the crystals are they're almost like these live they're not living, but they're they're able to project images into your head in a way that like is like through the force. And you have to basically like make the crystal bleed. And you have to do that by like going through these images. It's showing you of like realities and visions of things you would want. And you have to kind of like crush those hopes and dreams in your head.

So basically, it's like it forces Anakin to mentally like defeat the the is a Nami, the the genjitsu of the crystal and like, you know, do the opposite of Gurren Lagann, where you choose to like not not go the good reality and stay the course of negativity and like make the crystal bleed and then it turns red and then you get a red light saver out of it. Dude, this sounds so fucking stupid. It's pretty dumb. This sounds so terrible. It's pretty dumb.

It's pretty dumb. Like this, like maybe you shouldn't have gone so in depth on this after like being like, man, these comics are really cool. There's some good stuff, though. There's some good stuff because because this is fucking. Oh, yeah, the crystal totally. Yeah. So an example of something that I like that the story does is, you know, I mean, there's yeah, there's dumb stuff all over the stuff I like, too.

But one example of something good is like it shows you what Vader sees when he's meditating. And it shows you like his kind of like inner realm, so to speak. And it's this really cool, like kind of hellscape that he sees himself in as he's like kind of like, you know, sitting cross-legged and sort of floating. And his whole body is just this like concentration of like fuck. Energy of just like, you know, like evil texture almost.

His limbs are like not hit there because they're gone. So they're kind of just like like these absent voids. So he's a torso. He's just kind of a floating torso where the limbs are like ghost limbs, more or less, right, while he's kind of there. And then in the hellscape, like parts of his body are like reaching out and kind of spawning all over the place, like with. A spawn is in like spawnscape type of thing.

And there's these little these little flicks of light, these little little butterfly-ish things that are kind of floating around. And he's trying to basically get that shit out of his mind by like, you know, through his meditative process. And it's almost like, OK, that's the little bits of him left that Luke eventually is going to appeal to and pull him back. But he's like in the process of meditating to get what little light remains outside of him type of thing.

And I was like, OK, that's, you know, that's an interesting way of doing it. Visually, it certainly looks it looks cool. And then like you can almost imagine what the soundscape would be like to have these moments of like he's going through that. And then you interrupt it with someone going like, my lord, but he's like back in reality and he's like, he's like, oh, dude, come on, I'm doing my exactly. Like, fuck you, what do you want type of things? You know, so you kind of have that.

They introduce a character in the second book that kind of it is able to like make sense of like, how the fuck did Luke get a school up and running like functionally in such a short period of time with so little knowledge of the order? He went and hung out with Yoda for a minute, got some training and then had to figure out the rest on his own via some ghost conversations. How do we go from there into like, here's the academy, you know? So it kind of gives you some building blocks as to like how that would work,

for example, it gives you some context and you go like, OK, I can see that. Yeah, he had some help in a different in different ways. And of course, it would also explain, you know, how it's like, if you kind of inherit this, this the school, then like you might not be necessarily the best headmaster for it. So, you know, that's another thing. I always liked the thought that he was just kind of bullshitting it. Hmm. But he does have those books, right?

That are with him on his in his isolation, the texts. Yeah, um, but I guess he stole from Yoda's corpse. They kind of they show you they have this they introduce this like this type of Jedi that is like someone who takes a vow that is like almost like a non-interference. I don't care what's going on. I need to. Oh, wait. People are pointing out that he never read those texts ever.

OK. Um, so I guess he just I guess he just looked at him a little bit and was like, I'll figure it out. Then he's like, nah, Burnham. Burnham, though. Yeah, so then then you kind of like you get introduced to like, for example, a character who is like someone who does like this kind of like penance thing where it was like, here's an example of someone that would not get

involved while the Jedi were being wiped out. Someone who pretty much was like on a fringe cult, a fringe, a fringe belief system that branched off, that kind of went like, I'm not going to get involved at all until like, you know, it comes down to it until the force brings you to me type of thing. And you kind of go, OK, so this is someone he hunts down and they have a little fight and stuff and it's it's pretty rad. All in all, again, not done so far, but pretty, pretty solid.

You know, I enjoy the pushback that he has against Palpatine from in a couple moments because it's clearly like, you know, you're ruling with an iron fist. Everyone kind of hates each other in these organizations. No one really is loyal out of like, you know, dedication to the cause. They're loyal because they're waiting for an opportunity and out of fear. You know, so it kind of like puts a little a little. You know, like it kind of puts a framework for for Palpatine being this guy that's like,

I'll fuck you up. You can fuck me up. But I'm also going to, you know, like, I'm going to call you my friend and I'm going to speak to you in the way that, you know, the the the way I spoke to you at the opera and with the tragedy of Darth Plague's type of thing. And all in all, once I get through it, I'll give you a conclusive statement. But for now, the first two books are pretty solid. And I think after that, I'm going to check out.

There's another book that sounds really cool called Triple Zero, which is a ridiculous, it sounds ridiculous. There's like a C3PO that like a type droid that manages to fucking become rank ranked in the Empire somehow and goes pretty far up the ranks and does some crazy shit or something. I don't know the deal. But I got to go find out more about that. So, yeah, pretty good, pretty good comic books.

And yeah, you know, I mean, beyond that, I'm glad you like them and found enjoyment in these beyond that. There was just, you know, the the the usuals continue. Dokopon does its thing and so on. But that's pretty much is that coming up on like a conclusion? Yeah, I mean, maybe we're the pathway to completion has been opened. So a lot of folks have been talking like, hey, any minute now type of thing. But it's not, you know, what all the posts you're seeing with people

kind of saying that, like, you know, hair we're about to hit it type of thing. It's not a hard, it's not a hard lock. It's more just like the doorway to the credits has been opened. So who's going to be the one to bring a gun? Those are illegal. Who's the one? OK, so it's your house. You are you going to? Hey, you know what you should do?

You know what you should do for the for like the final sit down? You should lay. You should you should serve everyone a steak dinner. And so that you can all put your plates to the side during the finale. Oh, and serve them their steak knives as well. Yes, just in case. OK. Were you rapid fire salt tweeting while I was talking about Star Wars?

Oh, I was actually very much enjoying my tweeting. It was a little bit salty at all. I got to post a funny meme image of Anakin crying. That gave me a nice little internal smile. You didn't hear me typing. I was focusing on what to say next, not paying attention to your typing. I should turn my sensitivity up. There we go.

Hold on. Oh, yeah. All right. That should come through the problem then. But I mean, I don't know, I also assume you're just looking shit up and or just going about your life. You know, I don't know. Oh, I constantly have to be looking stuff up, just talking to somebody. I can't I have trouble maintaining my attention.

It's it's a problem. OK, people don't talk fast enough. That would explain. Some things. Cool. Everyone needs to talk like two, three times faster. Well, fortunately on YouTube, you can set it to one point five. But then everybody sounds weird.

Like really weird. What about you? Why don't you talk faster? I don't. Well, I was doing that and everybody seemed not happy with what I was saying. And then I started to feel bad because I felt like I was shutting down your your ability to talk about the thing that you enjoyed. And I'm like, well, I don't want to actually do someone says,

Willie, please mention DMC to and how Dante is always bad now. What? DMC to Dante is just boring. He's not bad. Oh, I see. So the point would be because DMC to ruin his character, everything they did with him later should be finalized as completely nonsense. And it's fanfiction because DMC to Dante, except Dante doesn't do anything in DMC to that's like aggressively bad.

He's just kind of right. So he's ruined. Like if Dante had a moment where like he dropped his ice cream and he shed his pants. Yeah, we'd have something to talk about. But that didn't happen. In fact, the most embarrassing thing he ever does is in his breakout role in DMC one in which he starts like balling his eyes out over the fact

that he can't fuck a look alike of his mother. So the which is like the thing that mean you just literally never stop harping it on him because it's a defining moment of his character. Right. So but then by the same consistency in internal logic, that would mean that Dante is boring forever. No, he was boring for that one weekend. And then there were there were three movies that took place over decades for Anakin,

and he was always a crybaby little shit if an entry. But like it's curious because I mean, following through with the logic, though, what if an entry makes a character do something and then afterwards that changes what do you do to like accept that? So one of the things people brought up is that Res Evil Vader was cool for one weekend garbage, the longer it goes on, like Leon becomes a moron and Jill becomes a stupid idiot and et cetera. But like at the very least, those things happen in the future.

So you can at least look at the version of them before they became idiots and go, well, at least that character was good up until this moment in time. So what if I say, whereas the Darth Vader, what if I say he was cool for one weekend, regional trilogy, and you're like Darth Vader, so cool. And then you look about what he used to be like. And you're like, this is literally the worst person in the world. I hate this person. How's that not the same thing?

So if they if they brought out like a Star Trek like series that was Picard, what was Picard as a young man and like Picard was like a child and crying all the time and shitting his pants and he smelled. Yeah, I would look at TNG a little differently because that's fucking horrible. So if he's cool in the future, when I don't get I don't I honestly, I need help. I don't understand. I don't I don't get it at all. I don't get how this explains it.

I'm not following characters can't be unruined, but there are times in which a character isn't ruined yet. You find out that that Anakin Skywalker was an idiot and a baby. Therefore going forward, his character is ruined for. OK, now boring Dante, if if Darth Vader was cool and then became an idiot and a baby, you can at least go, oh, man, at least he was cool in the original trilogy. So boring Dante.

Happens after first Dante. Yeah. And that's the only reason why this is boring. Dante is like it's not a it's not a like a I don't disagree with that point of view. I just personally find boring Dante inoffensive. I don't find anything that Dante does or says in DMC to to be like, oh, my God, this is terrible. Well, no, but it's not about it. It's just really.

But it's not about how much it bothers you. It's about how different it is from what he becomes. The point we're making here is how different it is, right? Vader is super different. No, no, it's not about how different it is. It's about whether or not it sucks or not. It's about how bad it sucks. If it sucks, then it sucks forever.

So it's not about the fact that two different versions of the character are miscar or are like at odds with each other. Because I thought the core point was that like this version of this like character is a whiny 17 year old begging for sex. And then this version is not. No, they're not at odds with each other. They're the same character. And part of that character sucks now forever.

OK, um, Dante when he's in his depressed mode and he just wants ice cream like in the anime and DMC to is a really, really boring character. OK, I'm being. So Dante clearly has moments where I want him to leave and let somebody else do it because he is boring and I don't want him there when he's in the upswing of his depressive episodes. Yeah, great. Awesome. Depressive episodes, the the and people also bring up

Virgil missing the Virgil missing Ken and MGS2 when he came out. I well, actually, what's being brought up? I didn't need riding to be saved for four or rising. Yeah, I'm moving on. I'm moving on. But what's being brought up is it was PS4 Kratos still lame because PS2 Kratos was lame. No, PS4 Kratos is great because PS2 Kratos is an idiot.

All right, let's. So in the original trilogy, fucking Darth Vader goes, oh, man, I turned to the dark side because I was so sick of being a weak little baby man. Yeah, you know what? That would be a lot better, but he doesn't. He's actually just cool and he's like, I love evil. I'll I'll let you guys know how comics three and four go.

But so far one and two pretty fun. How long are these comics, like 25 pages? Each one is a collection or they like each one or they like it's a trade. It's not that thick. It's about four issues. I think maybe four or six issues. So all in all, maybe how many pages are we looking at here? They're not numbered. But yeah, it's a it's a it's a thin trade.

It's like it's like a. You know, same size as like a saga or something like that. You know, I don't. What am I? What am I supposed to do when you ask me? When you ask me for how long they are, what's an example I could give you that would actually land? A number of numbers.

They're not numbered. They're not numbered, unfortunately. How about this? I will like it's about about half of a manga. A typical a typical manga size book, book size, about half of that. I was I was just curious because like I remember reading the old Street Fighter comics and like any particular issue would be like 2025. And I blow through those in like four minutes. Remember when I got the big collection, like the volume,

you know, the one that had to be you in front, the big white one. That was like an hour. I notice I notice that I read comics a lot slower than I read some manga, depending on how much detail is put into the art. Yeah, you're probably appreciating the art a lot more than. Yeah, so I will stop on pages where there's just a lot happening in a spread, but it's only like one line of dialogue.

I'll stop to take in what's happening a little bit more. Whereas like if a manga is just kind of going through it, like, for example, Trigun Maximum is like because when if I talk about like, if I were to talk about, say, you know, Berserk or Vagabond, there's so much ridiculous detail or Death Note, actually. Death Note's a really good example of like Death Note will have these insanely detailed pieces in the middle of the story where you're like, oh, my God, that's so well drawn, you know?

If I were to say Trigun Maximum, that's a good example of a story where the Yashiro goes through pages where he's like, I just want to get to the through the important conversation here. If I could write this this page in prose, I would. There's like four boxes with like nothing happening in them sometimes. And you're like, is this even a manga anymore? Like, what are we doing, bro?

Right. And then you get to like the next huge like spread and you're like, oh, fuck, look at this awesome picture of like a plant, you know, with the light bulb and the city around it and it looks fucking incredible, you know, so I will flip through those pages of nothing and then stop and study those pages of detail. But like, yeah, I find that like if the art is really nice, which it is really good, it's pretty nice. And in these comics, I'll take a lot more time going through it than I would

something that's not not a special, you know. What are you tweeting? I'm arguing still, but I'm just thinking about. Like how many comics I could like, could I go through all of these Darth Vader comics in like a day? Is that you probably could have you ever read? Although, I mean, you know, I'm not going to tell you to go spite read

just to come back and say whatever. I'm ultimately going to just ask if you ever had any moments or any books where you were reading them and then. Yeah, I know. I know you're going to spite read. Have you ever had any things where you read through them? No, I mean, like I thought I did my time with All Star Superman, in which I was able to disassociate and be like, All Star Superman was a super fun read and I loved it.

I think it's a great comic. And then I take the quality of that and put it aside and be like, but Superman's still awful. Whereas like, I could probably read these comics and be like, these are great comics that happen to feature a version of Darth Vader that's not awful. I just want to talk about the comic I read. I don't I don't really no offense.

I mean, if it doesn't, if it does or doesn't affect your opinion, like I didn't bring it up to sell you on it. I just I brought it up because that was what I was reading. Oh, I know, I just got I got trapped in my own prison. Please understand and for forever that any time I talk about anything comics related, I have no interest in selling you on it whatsoever, because I know you're not interested. I bring it up solely because it's something that I'm consuming and that

I'm liking and that's that's the entirety of it. This is the danger of my mind, OK, it's not a sell at you. So have you ever read through something where you stopped on the art to be like, holy shit? Once, literally once. What is it? It's I and I remember it vividly because I was reading Film Metal Alchemist and it is God, it's about halfway through when

Alphonse and Al are sorry, Ed are chasing Scar and Scar's been shot in the leg, so he's a little slower. And they finally catch up to him when Scar sees like some guards and like turns around and then you turn the page and it is a full two page spread of Ed just jumping in the air and just punching Scar in the face as hard as it can. And I just like I was really happy with both the pain, the page turn because I love the fucking page turn as a as a thing and also fuck Scar.

So I lingered on that for a while. That's good. That's good. That's that's the only time I can ever think of it. That's good. Yeah. No, I like that feeling a lot. I get that. There's some really good moments when like there's a there's a part in in Kingdom Come where

I mean, Kingdom Come in general is like fucking Alex Ross painting every panel. So you're just like, holy shit, man, you're insane. You're going to paint a comic book. OK, let's do it, you know, and there's some parts in that where you really just kind of you get you get the impact of the moment like like a bunch of shitty, shitty Washington people are fucking around and Shazam gets really angry or Captain Marvel, I should say, gets really angry and kind of just shows up and basically threatens to collapse the ceiling of

of Congress on them. And it's like it was a really I remember there being like a really nice shot there. Or when Superman returned with like the black ass and I was like, oh, fuck, that's a nice that's a nice moment. But in a comic where everything is painted, you kind of just stop to see like, you know what, I can think of another one. And it's a comic series that I did this often on. And it was Uzumaki.

Because, fuck. Oh, super Superman. You're Superman. You're right. Sorry, misremembered. Um, it's a lot of fucking shit in there. Saga had me doing that every fucking every issue. There would be a there would be a like a stop and fucking stare at this page. This is awesome. Super good stuff.

In terms of that art. Yeah, cool. OK. And honestly, anything, any of the the the large pieces that Yoji Shinkawa does. That are like the full sized like and you're like, oh, every fucking brush stroke, dude. Yeah. Cool.

Well, anyway. Yay, art's fun. What did you do? I've been having a long streak of going back to older stuff. I tried to play more Total Warhammer to talk about this on Clemson's podcast. I think I hate that game and it bums me the fuck out. I think I love every single thing about that game and appreciate it from a distance and hate every hate playing it,

which makes me genuinely sad. Um, is the most disappointed I have been in my own tastes for a while. I'm probably still going to keep trying to give it a shot and and pass that hill. But I I'm not I'm not giving a lot of hope. What I've been spending with the rest of my week, I went back to judgment. Or judge eyes with the better name because I got to chapter three in that game and I stopped and I couldn't remember why I stopped.

And then I loaded it up and I discovered why I stopped. So the Yakuza games have a lot of side content, like a lot, like a crazy, crazy, crazy amount of side content. If you go look at the how long to beat, the difference between like a normal run and completionist is a fucking chasm. It's unbelievable. Oh, yeah, I've been to I've been to those pages. They're very, they're very, they're very unhelpful when it comes to gauging how many episodes something would take.

Yeah, yeah. Um, so. I go to chapter three and I turn it on and I'm like, oh, I completed twenty four of twenty five of the friend quest lines in the third chapter of the game, which is like 30 to 40 percent of the game's side content. And I maxed out the bedding cages and I maxed out like

half of the rest before chapter three. Before, like at the beginning of chapter three, like the the instant they unlocked. Did them all. And I was like, whoa, no wonder. So I got back in and I'm now up to chapter six. But unfortunately, what happens in chapter, chapter six is you unlock quick starter, quick starter, because a crowdfunding app on your character's phone.

In which you can donate yens to unlock things. And one of the things that you can unlock is a health drink that just gives your character experience. You go to a store and you just buy experience. So everything you did, it's a lot. Everything you did up to that point. No, that's not the problem. All that stuff was fine and carried over.

And I want to max out those friend things. The problem is that it will cost approximately 60 million yen to buy enough experience. And the game now being able to tell that the game is like balanced in such a way that if you were to just play through normally, you would not even come close to maxing out your character skill list. You would get like a third of the way through. Wait, really?

Oh, yeah. Dude, if you just beeline a Yakuza game, you will get like 40% of your skills. Oh, wow. Is there a New Game Plus? You are intended to beat side quests. Is there a New Game Plus? Oh, yeah, there's New Game Plus. There's actually really extensive New Game Plus.

Okay, so that's where you get the rest of it. So then, wow, that... So then you're expected to grind to get that XP shrink? Well, no, you see, here's the thing. You don't need to do that. You don't need to have all your skills. You don't even have to have half your skills for... Okay, sorry. Let's just let you finish there.

To get the final upgrade for health, for example, it's like a 20% increase on your health, but it costs like the amount of like 10 other skills. Like the final upgrade, the final list of upgrades for everything are like 100 times. Like the final row, which represents like maybe 5% of the total slots of skills, represent like 60% of the total amount of skill points you would need.

Okay, well, then just spend it on skills. That's the way better way to go. Yeah, no, I did. And now that I figured out a way to cheat Blackjack in the game because the seeds aren't randomly generated. And if you find the Blackjack table that starts with a 9 and a Jack, there's a 8 card sequence you can do so that you will always win 50,000 chips.

And then you take that over to the VRCube simulator and then you run the VRCube at the max thing so you can get 2 million yen and then turn that in XP and then buy the... Anyway, the point being, I hit Chapter 6 on Saturday and have been doing nothing but the side content slash grinding shit.

And I'm almost done. I am almost done. My character is almost completely maxed out. And once it is, then I will be able to fucking go through the rest of the game like bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. You're pulling them in. You're doing them in max.

Those games are built to do that for the people who want to do that. No way I figured out the sequence myself. Hell no, I looked it up. Fucking looked it up. So other Yakuza games don't do this? They all do it. Oh.

The way that it usually works is side quests are usually the main source of your experience. And like eight side quests unlock per chapter or something like that. Okay, so what is the problem? Right. The problem is judgment unlocks like huge, like a judgment doesn't... How do I put this?

In judgment, half or more of the side quests in the game are your friend quests, which is stuff like go max out the batting cages or go do all the drone races or whatever. And they're supposed to be long term goals for the whole game instead of one and done little side missions.

Right? For the average person, this would make no difference. For people who go, oh, there's a bunch of grayed out icons on my map that I can make turn green if I do them all right now. This is a slight problem because it can kind of screw up the pacing

if you try and do all of it at once. I see. Well, I mean, as soon as things were available to me in like FF7, the remake, I went and did them until the max that I could. Yeah, so FF7 is a good example, right? Because in FF7, I think chapter five has the most side quests

in one go, and I think it's like six of them. And that's like two hours, three hours, right? Maybe a little more. In Judgment, when you unlock the chapter three side quests, it's like 15, 20? Somebody in the chat asks, hey, what does Pat's Witcher 3 map look like? It looks like a map that has no question marks,

is what it fucking looks like. What does my Spider-Man map look like? It looks like a fucking Baron slate. As long as a game tells me where the point of no return is, I'm okay playing until I'm satisfied and then coming back and dealing with it later. So, for example, when I came back later on, I think after chapter, whatever it was,

where fucking Wack-A-Box gets harder. And I remember being like, oh, yeah, okay. So I just ignored that, and I ignored the Colosseum, and then when I hit the point of no return, I then went back and went like, all right, time for the final cleanup, which was handy that the game kind of tells you. So yeah, I mean, I think it's all of that is fine

as long as the game gives you a warning once you're at the point of no return. The most annoying thing in FF7 is there's like to get Aerith's limit break. You had to do it right away. There's like a 10 minute period. Didn't realize that, missed it, totally missed it. I walked right out, I'm like, oh, I'll do it later,

and the answer's like, no, new game plus it, dumbass. It's like Jesus. People are asking me, did I do all the Assassin's Creed 2 feathers? Of course I did. That's back when I cared about achievements. That's unfortunate. I would not have done it now. What does mom say?

I don't even remember. She says almost nothing. It was very disappointing. Hmm, yep. From the jump, man, from the jump, I'm like, these, we're touching on, we're going down dangerous territory here, but, you know, it's...

Is it dangerous? I mean, I, like, what, I guess it, whenever I, because I had larger discussions with this about, so Min's brother and a guy that I used to work with, both represent the worst of it, where they don't enjoy games anymore. They only enjoy achievements, they will, and they will literally only choose what to play

based on the achievements gained per night. So they will, so like this one guy in particular would make a list, and he would like go, this game has this many achievements I can get within the first X amount of hours, so I'm going to spend this night doing that. And he breaks it down into like literally,

I will not play this game because I cannot get achievements fast enough. I can get more if I played these three games this night. And it was like, there's just no fun being had, or it was... Oh, that sounds, that sounds cool. It was, and like, it's like, maybe one might say that, like, no, that's his way of having fun,

but it was kind of just OCD to the, to the infinity, you know? I think, God, I can't remember which broke me. I want to say it's Zombie Genocider, where like getting Zombie Genocider is just so considerable that I'm like, I don't care about achievements anymore. It's like the worst way to play the game ever. And this was back on the Xbox 360 when it wasn't just a matter of like trophies,

I don't give a fuck. I've never give the fuck, and you have to... Oh, I don't... You have to go look at them, right? You literally... Trophies not giving you like a hard number will always seem to be... Well, I just, I don't care either way,

but like, you have to go look at them because they were added in after the fact because they were like a catch-up that Sony had to do. But like with the 360, your gamer score was the number next to your name. Everyone could see it. So it really got to the, to the core of anyone's

completionism that was like, again, actual OCD, you know? So yeah, it just became a thing where it's like, yeah, just do just like, will not play games that he would enjoy. Will not play games that are straight up for you because it's more important to spend time playing the games that will net me

the highest gamer score. Oh, that's fucking... That's to me, the end of the spectrum of achievements and how and why they're the worst with like, extrinsic... As somebody who is inside that, how do I put this? As somebody who is inside that place,

I do see what you mean, but there is like a, there is a fucking, how do I put this? There's a distinction to be made in my mind anyway, which is when I'm doing it and I see a map with a million things on it, like a good example is Far Cry 4 has the same problem. I stopped playing Far Cry 4 because I was clearing out the map

and I wasn't enjoying it because the stuff you do in Far Cry 4 on that map just isn't good enough. In the Yakuza series, yeah, it's usually pretty good. Like, by and large. And it comes more from a place of I really like this game,

I want to extract every single drop of juice out of it. Yeah, that's it, right? It's like, are you enjoying it? If you're enjoying it, that's what it, that's absolutely it. And for what you're describing with Min, like the game seems like incidental,

like if he was a Steam player and he cared about Steam achievements, he would just load up games that had console commands. And just, or use that program that was going around for a while back in the day that would just give you every Steam achievement. Yeah, which is really funny

when you look at Warframe, because Warframe has achievements for like, you go up in ranks as you master weapons and you need more weapons to get higher ranks, and there's ranks all the way up to 30. But the highest reachable rank for a long time was like 26, but people had the achievements for going up to 30,

because they would just unlock them by a cheat engine. Yeah, man. The, I mean, whatever, like the cheat it, like, yeah. I, I feel as if, like, to, yeah, to me, it's always been about,

like, the ones that are, like, cleverly implemented when it's like, oh, that you, a fun interaction that happened in the game that you never saw coming, and then it's like, ah, little pop-up there, like, yeah, that happens, you found it, you know, or even stuff where it's like, okay, there's a challenge here,

and like, overcome it, you know, like, get 300% stagger, right? Yeah, things like that where you're like, yeah, okay, you know, that's cool, like, I'm enjoying this process, this is fun. That's, that's, like, great. I have no problem with that whatsoever.

I enjoy those things. I just feel that, like, there is definitely, the fact that achievements are oftentimes designed not by the people that are going through the entire narrative of the game or designing the, the, the core, they're being handled by someone else in many cases.

There's a dissonance in a lot of the, like, the, the design around it, you'll see achieved. You'll see achievements that are just, like, like, go fucking, go kick a bucket around for hours, like, we just, we're just here to waste your time.

Um, it, it's, it feels poorly thought out, and in some cases, you'll see things that are like, I don't know how else to word it besides meant to exploit people that are, like,

mentally ill and compelled to seeing this bar be filled up, you know. There's an easier word for that. It's just busy work. Busy work, I suppose. Yeah. I suppose so. Um, and, you know,

and there's, and like, and if you happen to be, yeah, someone who, like, is just really bothered by this bar being incompleted and it, and it, and it, and it, it cripples you from moving forward and you don't want to actually do this task, but it, you

can't help but do it. That's not a net positive. That's a negative that detracts from your gaming experience, in my opinion, you know, uh, and that's where I say that's a fucking mistake. So Oh,

there's something you just said that really, like, jumped out at me was, which was the feeling of looking at the bar and and

seeing the bar not be filled and that's giving you anxiety, right? Or upset feelings. The, the core bridge to jump with OCD versus conscientiousness or

neuroses or whatever is really simple and it's the same behavior is the instant that bar shows up, I'm going to max it out, right? And the difference is is it because the bar

not being full makes you anxious or is it because it makes you happy to see the bar for right? If the bar being empty makes you anxious and then filling it up brings you back to your default state.

Yes, right? That's one thing, but if you're at the default state and filling the bar makes you feel really satisfied that's something different. And to many it's both. Like, to me, it's often both. If you, I don't like it that it's empty

and it makes me really actually thrilled and satisfied that it is full so I get it from both ends. If you are somebody and that makes that very powerful. If you are somebody who is enjoying what you're doing

and going out of the way to complete these things is purely a net positive, I'm not talking about you. I am not describing anyone who is enjoying the game in that way. Yeah. Where the friend quests I described

most of them are really good and the batting minigame that I described even to max out it's a really fun batting minigame. I really like it. The problem was is that when you do so much of that

you can script pacing for yourself. So like I forgot what was going on in the story. Yeah. It's like I went to a cut scene and I'm like I don't know who that is. Because it had been hours.

It had been months. So first it had been hours and then it had been months and if you've ever played one of these games Wolves they know that. Which is why the Yakuza series has a highly detailed character

biography and plot synopsis part of it. Where they give you a portrait of the character up to date information as to what they're doing in that part of the story. What the current information you have on parts of the story is

what's happened, who's dead etc. Because they know. Yeah. It's that whole fulfillment versus absence feeling.

Removal of an anxiety is a yeah. The go to I always I always think of and I think bring up is Tomo O'Hara the original American Street Fighter Champion. Who like was the best

Street Fighter 2 player before your die goes and before your Alex Valleys was known as the God and then he just disappeared you know and when they finally caught up with them years later to find out what happened and why is because

it got to a point where winning a tournament netted no joy losing a tournament was agonizing. Winning a tournament was merely okay. This is what should have happened.

We're at zero and that got so unhealthy that he had to just fucking stop. Yeah, that's that's a bummer. It'll it'll you win if that is inside of you. You will be the best. You know, like if you

you're so you're running on a completely different engine from everyone else you're competing with that will take you to the top but dear god is it not worth it. And he and like as soon as what if what if the what if the wind pot was bigger back in the

day? Um, like what if instead of fighting game player and SF2 back in the day it was league player now the point or Dota player now when you could go to the international and win a million dollars I mean he seems to be pretty

happy and living fine without it in his life to be honest but well but screw happiness what if you could be rich um it's better to be rich and miserable than poor and happy this is known everyone just a little bit more background on it

when he did kind of disappear um and like you know like decade goes by or more of just like no one knowing what's up where he went to what happened there was a like a bit of a like you know a mythos of like oh maybe he like I already

became like a poker champion I already went off to you know start playing and he took his skills into that game and other people like there's all these little things about like why what was what was it you know and when they finally caught up with him and this happened all of that like like why the fuck would you walk away from being

the champ why would you walk away at the top type of thing everyone immediately understood and went oh okay cool got it yep perfectly make sense you're you're you're dying and eating away

at yourself inside every time you you go to a tournament see here's the thing though that always bothered me die now live later yes okay

would you like to elaborate you can't go you can't go back to being the champ later maybe but you can chill out later some people can if you it depends on what it is some people that are very skilled can leave

and come back and still fucking crush it what do you mean say you're a football man and football stresses you out but you're a real good football man right you could either choose to do something with your life that makes you happy

or you could go through eight or nine football seasons get bank and then never have to worry about anything else for the rest of your life yeah you'll be miserable as shit for that time period but you could just become happy later when you say die now

you mean like okay okay I was like how does this compare to not being alive anymore okay destroying yourself for permanent happiness later uh yeah

well everyone makes that choice right you know what you often see when it comes to sports is you will see things like someone like be the top be at the top of their game walk away from it and then like the bug will start scratching them

and then they'll be like ah you know I still think I still got it in me then you hard cut to fucking Chuck Liddell and Tito Ortiz fighting in their fucking fifties and you're like

what are you doing guys you know you don't want to bring it back but there's other times like what like let's say for example like streaming

I took last week off because I was getting a little burnt out I streamed a shit ton of seven I hadn't taken a break in like 30 weeks since October so I was like I'll take a week off but I

am a working man streamer I'm not ninja right I'm not shroud or whatever the kids like if I was however right

say I was the ninja I would work every single day until they put me into the fucking hospital and then quit forever and then be done well I did my part time to go live on an island

um yeah some people do that every once in a while you know who did that Chris Tucker who's that yeah Chris Tucker totally did that every once in a while you'll find someone that does that

but most people would prefer to attempt to create a healthy work-life balance and do so over a prolonged period of time but think about it this way think about it this way say at 20 right

you have a work-life balance of 99% work until you're 30 right as long as you live past 40 and never work ever again ever you'll be on the winning end

so a lot of human beings feel really sad and unfulfilled doing absolutely nothing a lot of people want even the smallest thing to do and do not mind

if they have even a light task to accomplish in the long run there is a hollowing out you have to wash yourself besides that I'm talking about I'm talking about work right there is a hollowing out

that's work there is a hollowing out that occurs when you retire and have nothing else going on in life and people probably want to avoid that by again attempting a healthy

work-life balance of course this is super like applicable to all cases there is people that are burning themselves out a lot of people burning themselves out just to make ends meet so

it's not always about die now success later it might be die now to hit par later to hit zero my dad was a working man and he worked his ass off his whole life

and then he retired he retired 2 years early I think it was in 63 because his heart was exploding all the time and he's like ok die now die later and then my dad got really bored guess I'll just die he got really really really bored

now the situation that I'm talking about only applies if you can die now for a short period of time to live later that's your life because you're talking about a champ

you're talking about somebody at the top of their field right if I was working at that grocery store still damn sure I wouldn't be talking like oh my god I'd be like yeah no what

I'm gonna work my ass off to death so I can have nice cheerios nah fuck that but if you're like a champ or the number one or the big Hollywood celebrity or whatever

right it's up to you to grind that out as hard as you can and if you feel bad about it then you just give all that to me or other deserving people and then you can go grind more

if you were you're bored because most people still don't have that even if you are the champ there's still that feeling of I gotta do something that doesn't go away you know

well I was gonna say there's an intermediate step where there are people who want to do that and you can see that they're doing their best but also have to occasionally show up and you know

I got a donkey Murphy is someone who wants to be gone as long as possible but when there's some bills to pay I got a donkey inside me I got a Netflix I got something

when I got bills to pay I'll show up, pay the bills and then re-vanish forever but that feeling of I gotta do something and that's why they don't do what you're suggesting so I think a really good example of this is the perfect example

of the person that I use up I hold up in the sky as how to do everything wrong is Notch Right? Notch was a creative guy and he made Minecraft and Minecraft was very successful and then Microsoft gave him

infinity dollars and he decided because he had infinity dollars what would be a really smart thing to do would be to steal a house out from under Jay-Z's nose move all the way across the country right?

uproot every personal relationship he has and become a completely isolated piece of garbage right? and then after all of that complain that money ruined his life right?

to which I would always see and say okay give it to me then all I will gladly have my life ruined by your Minecraft money you piece of shit cry more you big baby or I don't know give it all

the way to random people and charities just to clarify Dolomite was a passion project and Dolomite was good and he did do that but the point I'm saying is that that was a project he took on

as opposed to not taking on anything Eddie Murphy does rent money movies you know I mean Dolomite was good but he did Pluto Nash at one point

and it was just like alright yeah Pluto Nash woo my brother was a stand-in on that movie oh what a what a credit you got stuff like that

it was pretty you know but that's it I think that what happens is if you don't think about it too much you're gonna end up being unless you're like you you're gonna end up being like damn I want to do something I might need something

I think the highest calling any human being could ever have is to become an unmoving amorphous cube encased blob of flesh that eats and poops and doesn't contribute anything to society but also doesn't damage society

they just live over there and they're cute I'm saying the matrix is the shit basically I'm saying we should just hook up into the matrix you want the steak just put me right the fuck back in right back in well now and I will shoot you if you try and take me out

see the problem unfortunately is the matrix plugging you in is not that doesn't need to be enough incentive all they had to do was take you and drag you through the crowds of the big wet zion orgy

and that would be enough for you to run back to your pod we don't need to fucking entice you with the actual virtual world the real world is dirty in matrix the digital world is clean the wet

the moist zion orgies are more than enough to scare you away from the real world get me back into my clean clean pod banging on the gel banging on it fucking Eric Andre

let me hear it in the infinite fields of settitles yeah alright well can we move on yeah yeah I think I don't know how we got it

it was your week oh judgments really good judgments really good gonna try out edda space this week a 4x game in the vein of like galactic sieve

I fucking love space 4x games but I never get too far I always get to the mid game and then you're dealing with like 90 planetary systems and it's like every turn is like who the you build this you did that you did

right but apparently endless space has a lot of cool shit going on including a governing system where you can just like tell entire systems where it's like just make ships until I tell you to stop just just

make food until I tell you to shut the fuck up and I heard there were some walls in warhammer that got hit oh yeah the walls are unit management and it's the combat strong week for goblins

strong week for goblins literally by the way this past week they announced a goblin DLC for that game which looks great and I will try to hit that that's it for me really you can check out more of this crap

over at twitch.tv on twitch this week it's gonna be a later week this week I'm doing 7pm and I'm also gonna be hanging out over at twitch.tv slash peach saliva on Friday to do more Dark Souls 2 we did promise that this would be a bad episode

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ok so no ads so we can jump right into the news and news news the big thing this week was

the xbox event so there's a ton of different stories in there and let's be perfectly honest we got a whole lot of non-gameplay cinematic trailers some of them had breathy female vocals in them

and there was a whole lot of Assassin's Creed thing is being made fun of for a reason they were hyping that up with every announcement for like a week and a half like the first gameplay of Assassin's Creed Valhalla

browsing through the list of announcements and it was like game is announced click on it see the thumbnail see some CG going grab the mouse of the youtube video scroll it CG CG CG there's a little bit of something that might be gameplay

there's a logo no that was fake gameplay and then we're out and I'm like ok got it thank you next and most of the things appeared to just be that so I don't know if you had feelings about stuff but that whole event

was like a wet fart to me man like the funniest thing my favorite favorite thing was Aaron Greenberg having a fucking fridge made out to look like the new X-Box that's pretty funny I didn't want

that was fucking hilarious I consumed the event in my preferred method which is a series of youtube videos after it's done the first thing I guess was the Scarlet Nexus announcement

Bandai Namco RPG for the X-Sex and and everything else you see the trailer for this thing I probably did but I don't recognize the name so I'm looking it up right now

oh yeah the thing that I thought was a code vein code vein take your code veins take your astral chains astral vein essentially and you put it in a very pretty world of cool things happening

and bright colors but like the most like I think my brain edited out the main character's face as soon as I saw it it I think I feel I yawned

inside I felt an internal yawn upon seeing that which is lame because like the enemy type being like weird plant flower monsters looks really weird looking enemies that are yeah exactly a bouquet of flowers turned into

a monster and I'm curious to know what's up with that but oh my god I'm looking at the main character's face and then I look away same voice as Kirito in Japanese get out

one guy says I don't know if it's true or not that's one guy I just it was one of those things where I'm like man I'm not I'm not checking out because like gameplay might be cool and things but that is a level of like

oh that was so generic I just fucking it hit me like ah right I'm already looking at this a little bit more negatively unfortunately and then you know I saw the monsters and I'm like okay

it's an anime thing I hope it plays a little heavier than Code Vein Code Vein had a lot of cool stuff but it had that anime problem where a lot of the attacks felt like light like really light like there's no weight to anything

yeah I know what you mean if there's a character creator that'll save a lot of this but I'll still also say that like yeah you know there's a market there's a market for this type of MC yeah

there's a target audience that's all about it so you know it's like alright I hope I can change that up as much as possible but if I can't then you know it's for them but that was about it

that's all the thoughts I had on it you know yeah pretty much I saw oh is that Code Vein and then I said no it's not and I went oh okay I'll check that out the self insert guy

then there was the psychological game the medium yes this is being made by Blair Witch made layers of fear which isn't very good

in my opinion and then they made Observer which is really good and now they're making this and it is like laughably obvious that this is like Silent Hill's dead let's make a Silent Hill game now what was

notable in the announcement was Akira Yamaoka involved yes so you know the game like from its trailer looks and feels so much like

downpour that it kind of weirds me out and downpour was also made by an Eastern European dev and had an Akira Yamaoka soundtrack although in the announcement for it it says the medium features a dual soundtrack

by Bloober Team's guy and legendary composer of Silent Hill Akira Yamaoka and it's like well I don't know if that was the right way to play it you maybe should I don't know

unless he only made like one or two songs unless there was not enough music alright that's absolutely they couldn't get him for the whole thing and he'll have the intro song and the credits song

and like two songs in the middle that'll be character themes fine cause yeah I was like did you just get some other guy in there and he's like no I don't know okay okay they couldn't get him for the whole thing fine right

yeah so the trailer for this too was mostly just atmospheric rendering and CG so hard to form any opinions

I eagerly await this game to be promising but fucking jank they dropped the trailer for the Ascent sci-fi action rpg this too um

pretty much the big ol' CG trailer and Curve Digital developer Neon Giant it's uh not much to say I literally watched the whole thing

and can't remember a single fucking game from its title what's your like you're saying like the Ascent and I'm like what is that oh no wait this one this one this one had some gameplay in it this one had some gameplay in it oh yeah yeah yeah

I was so excited and then they moved the camera and I was like uh yeah this was uh this was the the one that actually had a lot of electric looking cool locations yeah man I'm down

um Runer was cool yeah yeah it was it's just like when I look at that perspective I don't want to see lots of shooting you know I want to see characters slowly

moving up to a character and then oh okay I know what you mean yeah yeah yeah so this trailer was like a double let down because it was like the the the cinematic look made me think it was like it could be like a big budget story yeah RPG like Blade Runner thing

and then they cut to the perspective and I'm like okay and then they start shooting and it looks like Diablo I'm like oh I know what you mean it's like seeing it's like if I saw like a life art a character bouncing from a side view and then they walk forward and then the screen scrolls and then a shop is there and then they turn to the shop

buying items oh well okay uh yeah there was the chorus from Deep Silver and

I feel like I'm having a look up yeah but this so this was the one that I this is what I mixed up with the ascent the chorus which is also just this was a big old CG like no gameplay thing there could have been that part where the

ship flipped that could have been gameplay maybe but I doubt it so to recap that's Scarlet Nexus the medium the ascent

and the chorus and and then scorn also had a CG trailer which I don't know what scorn is supposed to be but it looks

very like it looks it looks more Giger-esque than Giger considering there is a dripping robo penis in it didn't see it I could not believe that we saw the drip off of that robo penis

you're gonna make your robo penis in cyberpunk I suppose I am get used to the drip embrace it learn to love it no no is what you will say at first

before you discover the truth about embracing your I don't know where this is going what the fuck are you talking about cyber dong is powerful dude when I get to cyberpunk

I cannot wait to see what happens when I replace like 99% of my body with augmentations I thought you were gonna say with dicks well I become a human moral borough man just be like that eyeball monster from power ranger season 1

call of the sea from otherworldly I got nothing I just you know oh wait scorn did yes scorn I did see scorn nevermind and that actually showed off some some gameplay

true I remember now there was some creepy shit call of the sea did have gameplay but we don't know what the gameplay is I bet it's like the witness I bet it's puzzles bright memory

so bright memory is weird because it got announced that's weird and then a friend of mine was convinced that that game was fake because it was only made by one person and that was a fake game and then you go to steam and type in bright memory

and you can fucking buy it right now so that's why the headline is bright memory infinite adds an xbox sex version and a new gameplay trailer was released and then you go to the steam page

and it's bright memory infinite is FPS the store description is really confusing I'm going to assume it is a re-release with more stuff

and cleaned up and you know 1.0 release or whatever you would call it all I know is it involves time traveling samurai and wormholes

yeah I don't know I mean again I just I scrolled through and I'm like I saw so little gameplay from stuff that I kind of just checked out from it so I don't know if there was anything else that struck you but I was kind of like

I came away from that whole thing going well I'd like to see what I'd like to see like a gameplay demo of the Assassin's Creed thing you know where they take the 10 minutes and go this is what the difference between all fucking guys and he can hide in the

bush or whatever and I didn't even get that and I didn't even get a game like that that's literally all I wanted to look for and I didn't get it though it was cool that Yakuza is now a straight up multi-platform series

Yakuza is coming to the Xbox and leaked a little bit beforehand but there's a steam page right now for Yakuza 7 well it's not called 7 out here but Yakuza like a dragon and

this will be their brave fresh new start on the future of being a real video game. One guy says I did PR for the game Bright Memory and Bright Memory Infinite are different titles they're different titles

then they really need to make that way clearer because that is unclear well thanks PR person for clarifying I hope that was not a lie

nah why would you why would you even why would who would yeah okay well yeah Yakuza had more footage as well that's true there was some more of that but I was gonna say

I didn't really bring it up because it's like well yeah we've seen a lot of footage of you want footage you can go watch like a dragon all you want no much to say about that you can see it there it is you know so anyway

that was the Xbox event inside do you kids like Xbox so they said that they're gonna have like one of these like every month or like they're gonna have an announcement every month I think yeah I believe is what the

and all I can think of is that I hate that I hate that so much because this one sucked so for fuck's sake please god just combine all of them into one

that's like four hours long and has at least one cool sound that sounds like a distant baby it's so fucking that's not a cat that's not a cat that sounds like a distant baby dude that's fucking sounds so not like

oh man okay there that's a bit more like accurate dude some of those noises this cat they're way too human there's an old story page

likes to tell the crack me the fuck up so she used to live with a roommate and he'd bring a chick home or whatever and the chick would see Elmo the cat and Elmo would start screaming and wailing

and she would be like oh my god do you abuse this cat he's like no no he's just like that he's just like that we feed him tons he's fat and like the cat would literally cock block the roommate

oh that's why he's screaming excuse me well could you start up the new the new new story I need to feed this oh I needed to go get an energy drink and refill my water oh that's perfect I'll make a coffee well then we will hit the short break

see you guys in a bit okay we're good we're good and we've been joined by our furry scratchy co-host I've also been informed to let everyone know that in fact it was not one roommate that hated this cat it was

three different roommates who Elmo blocked all of their cocks because he's an asshole like that so um yeah whatever with that event

just big old hand waves all right well so what else is up in the news yeah other stuff that was a little bit more interesting um some dudes left respawn and founded a new studio called gravity well

specifically um the senior producer on titanfall 2 and producer on apex and the senior programmer on titanfall and lead programmer on titanfall 2 and apex

but okay founded a new studio called gravity well so who knows but um the the statement they put out pretty much says they're aiming to make AAA so that's that's the so there's a

there's a real and common path now which is huh the big studio won't make us make what we want to make let's go make an indie developer hey their indie game did pretty well let's get bought out by big studio

huh the big studio won't let us make what we wanted to make let's go make an indie studio like over and over and over and over again I like the yacht and the fact that I like the yacht club version of the story where yacht club comes out of

yeah game way forward and they both continue to be cool and the fact that they say we're looking at making AAA means they're going to get stuck right in the cycle immediately a smaller AAA team it seems like

the gist of what they're going for um in their message they said once your dev team crosses around 100 people everything changes it's nobody's fault but big operations move slowly um we're not going to do that we're going to build a team

that caps out at 80 to 85 and we're going to and they're going to aim for that size and still deliver I feel I mean I don't work in game development right I think

that putting a hard cap at a specific number to go like oh man you hit 100 and it's all down hit like is like short-sighted as shit it's um like

a specific number I don't think is the problem guys no I mean you know these dudes have tons of experience with like how these processes like work and I'm sure that it's not like something that hasn't been thought about

but I would say that in many cases it's much more critical to like assign or work with something that is to scale with what your team can make right you don't over design

you don't allow you cut out bloat and you certainly avoid feature creep as much as possible to not get to a point where you're like well shit the thing on our plate needs another let's hire another 30 people studio yeah to just crunch on this feature

you know definitely you want to that's that's the bigger thing is like if you manage this the scope of what is on your plate in front of you you don't have to worry about the backside that much but it's fucking hard obviously and you know like

as described it's like it just happens sometimes where you find unexpected things and you find a bloating the project ends up bloating way past its expected time and size and date so you know it's fascinating because like we talk about crunch relatively often here naughty dog

rockstar you know everybody else and talked with the clamps about Yoshi P over on FF 14 and it's like hey management is really hard on a game figuring out how long things is going to take is really

really really hard okay and if whoever's in charge of that fucks up it sucks ass for everyone okay so for perspective it's really hard when you are making up something on your own

if you're making a comic or you're working on a script or you're just working on your own project of any kind it is very hard to nail your your scale your scope your size a lot of things about the

project that you start whatever medium you choose evolve as you go and you end up realizing things once you're rolling on your already on the road you've got a swerve left and right to you know adjust a giant catamari of a

project that involves a hundred people all contributing their work to the same thing you have these stories about the draconian Japanese dev that rules with an iron fist and tells everyone exactly what to do because it and where to sleep

I have hiccups combined with a their throat that sucks for podcasting but yes you end up with imagine how hard that is to control when you're rolling this giant beast down the road and like you're dealing with everyone's contributions

some people are overstepping what they thought they could take on some people are saying I can do all of that and they can even do half of it and other people are going to be way finished with what you gave them and like be like oh yeah give me more and you're just it's this giant always

evolving thing of like tasks in people's hands are never going to land on the deadlines they're given they're always going to fly far above or far underneath and a lot of it has to do with you know if you

look at something in a game and you go ah that looks janky I can do better than that and then you just hit the drawing board again you know and then you cut because people aren't all going to be at the same skill level or speed and those two things aren't even necessarily correlated more time for someone doesn't

add up to the time somebody else puts in for good or bad I got a buddy of mine who works in ah let's say computers right and he works on a lot of stuff with a lot of people he's got a lot of people doing his kind of job everybody's got their

their sections right and he finishes his work at a higher quality about four times faster than everybody else in his department whatever happened either he's super smart or it just happens to cater to his skills

and he'll get days where back when he was working on ah in the office he'd be going in and just playing fucking phone games all day and his boss would come out like shouldn't you be doing something and he's like there's literally nothing for me to do I'm waiting for the guys

on this side to send me more shit and I am sending the shit down there and they're telling me to stop because they can't handle all the shit I'm happening I'm sending them with their workflow right so

shrug you throw a bunch of those types of people and the opposite of course in a big thing yeah that's hard as shit to manage yeah um say what you will about the the leaked valve handbook from years ago

but one thing that it absolutely nails is there's nothing more important than hiring there's nothing more important than hiring hiring hiring hiring is the most important thing

hiring they have this giant bold like holy fuck do not mess this up part of it because the whole structure of the company being freeform and kind of like do what you want wheel your desk

over wherever you want to all that shit is like hire people that could be your boss or whatever all of that is like if this only works if the people that you're working with are competent and capable you know yeah um and again say what you will about

however that works out but the idea of like um yeah you need like hiring is super important it's just like there's a lot of uh I don't know what the word for it is but something I would see often in the industry while

uh at the office and just seeing things one of the biggest problems one of the biggest problems dude is people that are really good at bullshitting the interview process

they're really they're professional it's a talent they're professional interviewer interviewees like the job interview is their skill the resume is not a hundred percent accurate and the skill

set is not a hundred percent applicable but we can massage things here and there and I watched so many people land production jobs and land producer positions

that had never done anything like it before have no experience with how this actually works or what to do and that's not even getting into the people whose brothers sisters cousins roommate is a buddy of it oh yeah yeah yeah I'm not even talking about the relationship stuff

I'm just I just mean straight up like we're watching someone jump diagonally and they're really good at the interview process and then they nail it and then they get there and then it takes time before anyone realizes they don't know what

they're doing and there's a way you can go about your day to day where you just you get gather enough information to get context clues about what the fuck you're supposed to do and then sort of do that while relying on other people to fulfill these tasks

and you just massage a bunch of emails and send them around and it is when you see it happen and then when you see it land and then the process continues and you're like this is a time bomb waiting to happen

what the fuck are you gonna do go in and just be like some fucking like you know what I mean like think about like you're just gonna be like some guy you can show you're gonna go to the person who hired them and they don't have you know you can't you just watch and you wait sit back and wait for it to blow up and it always did you know but it's there's

there's all there's projects in which for either somebody was paying attention or it was bad luck or there was poor management as well in which you're looking at it and there's like it's not like a couple guys got in

it's like a third of the staff hustled their way in and it's a countdown to the project just completely fucking disintegrating yes because no one's actually doing anything now this is not to say that there has not been people who inherited

gigantic burning dumpster fires I've also watched the opposite happen where someone otherwise competent was given something that was destined to fail so the powder keg is you know exists from one side or the other

there there's both scenarios happening but one thing is for sure is that like there are people that do get hired into positions that like really weren't ready for them but you know want it needed to make that jump and did and nailed it

and then you know at that point they usually get to dip out after the failure and then rock that on that credit on the resume and be like yeah producer you know it's funny because

I've just been thinking of like managing the beast right turning the ship is a combination of talent skill and experience right the talent and skill are what make you good and the experience

is what lets you know what would be a good idea actually sucks shit and won't work at all and because the industry crunches people so bad and people burn out so hard it's actually tough to get people that actually have all three of those things

here's a sucks willies business class pro tips episode three because I think I gave two of these before on my on stream here's your third tip folks if you are in charge of hiring and you get a resume

and it says something to the effect of producer 2018 that's a much cleaner way of saying producer march to April but instead of saying march to April

it just says 2018 ask about that ask about that if you see no months if you see something like 2007 to fucking 2015 then whatever that's

a fucking vet you know but if you see a single year in a bracket with no range and no month specified ask about that that might be a little bit because you know

in your brain in the best case scenario oh that means from January 1st to December 31st you are a producer you must know what you are doing not oh you got in there for three weeks and got the fuck out so you know

if you happen to find yourself in this position don't let that slip under your nose speaking of getting the fuck out there's the dark underbelly of getting out with your credit which is getting out without your credit my favorite one ever

I'm calling people are being okay I caught y'all I'm telling them about it yeah I know all the tricks guys I know all that shit I took a fuck I studied I had business like I know the fucking game bro ugh

so getting out without your credit always cracks me up the one that I always think of is I can't remember the guy's name I was just trying to find it but it was either a director or like one of the big producers on Dragon Age 1 who was like one of the defining pushing

creative forces behind that game cause he's like hey let's make a new Baldur's Gate kinda right and Dragon Age 1 came out and it was great and then in the pre-production for Dragon Age 2 the EA started to put their fingers in right

and Dragon Age 2 started to look like it was going to and he was set to direct it and before Dragon Age 1 even shipped he's like I'm out but I am gone don't put my name on that one

Dragon Age good I did it but I'm going to look somewhere else and the reason he did that is cause that guy had experience he had the knowledge to look at what was going on

and go I am getting the fuck out of here yes sir I mean you don't get you get two choices right you get that or you get to

go the Itsuno route on DMC 3 and be like fuck me we're fixing this this is not what I'm being known as I am not being known as depends how much control you get right I am not being known as the DMC 2 guy fuck all of you

we're doing this again Capcom has a lot of flaws but for whatever reason when they give somebody a project they seem to let them do whatever the fuck they want with it like Dragon's Dogma lost them a lot of money a lot of money

and then they still let Itsuno do whatever the fuck he wanted with 5 here's another thing when Capcom's projects have enough when there's enough of a timeline for them to go through updates they usually end up in a pretty good place

compared to launch in many cases a lot a lot of obviously like the fighting games they put out by the time you get to the final iteration of it you're like okay that's the solid one and net code

not withstanding gameplay wise you get to that point but yeah man when the writing is on the wall you can fucking feel it in the room when you walk by the

desks of the people you work with and you're all you're all working on a stinker you can feel it in the air dude would you describe it as like sweat having like an audio cue

like you can hear sweating what you're hearing what you're hearing right and this is like super real dude is everyone in each department will have like

a personal cause if there's a lot going wrong with the game they will have a personal cause that is from their department that they have the chance to save and they're in I'm gonna fix the menus in this thing

they're gonna look good I can't save the rest of this system I can't save the stealth from being not what it used to be dear fucking god I hope people are not mad about

Barrett Jarrett being not what he was I wonder what you're talking about and the lighting and the stealth is okay but I am going to fix these menus because that's what

I can do and and everyone has a cause dude and they're going to be like trying their hardest to talk to their immediate superior

to get that superior or the producer of that to give them the bandwidth to fix it and they'll be basically like hey man how's it going still trying to get them to realize that this is

I have to work on this this is the priority right now but this is so bad and as soon as people get their hands on it and you just have to put tunnel vision on and focus on this one thing and you're like I can get this one thing fixed

and everyone has their own thing and none of them are being allowed to do it because everyone has different priorities and they're all fighting for time and they're all being told those things there's a fire over here that needs outing

let me ask you a question because I have my own suspicion but when you're in that situation and you have everybody's like no I can do this one I could make the save games work or whatever how much of that

per person is personal pride and how much of it is when I walk into an interview with this place I can say that yes I did work on that game and yes that game was a piece of shit but I worked on the one

part that wasn't well I suppose it depends are you someone who wants to finish what you've been handed so that you can immediately jump over to the team that's working on a way better project that's more exciting and fulfilling

so you want to get this shit done and get something much more fulfilling in your life or are you the guy who puts swinging in spider-man 2 yeah it depends it depends

what kind of person are you if you're that guy then you're that guy and you will be known as that guy but you've got to do that under the desk at night time when no one's paying attention sneak it into the fucking build

and by remembered I mean imagined what it would be like to work on a game that is burning down while the guys literally 100 feet away are working on the new hotness and you know that once your fire is put out that you can go across

the hall and start working over there literally that's like oh my god what possible what possible desire do you have to put this fire out when if it burns down

you can get to the good shit faster the fact that you don't want your name to be on a lost cause you know you'll want it to be good you really do but you get met with resistance all the way up to the end

and in many cases it's like if it was up to me I wouldn't have been like this you know and then the people who knew better right at the beginning get to go I told you mother fuckers I swear to god

and then the person who's fault it is goes listen now's not the time for blame you ever see that meme of the guy who's having a hard time sleeping and he's crying and his blur from the fence behind him outside the window is devil trigger playing distorted

through an outside speaker there's a party in the next room and everybody's working on it and you're stuck doing cleanup over here you're stuck doing cleanup and listen dude compliance is the job that stays behind when the game

has fucking gone gold right we are looking at the release candidate when everyone's finished their work last and catching the problems and when I find a problem and I go oh fuck guys

you made two types of saves you made a save container for the profile and within that you made separate saves that are associated with the container but if for some reason the container gets lost and replaced with a new one these new saves can be loaded

on a profile that doesn't belong to it breaking everything the person who worked on that has to be either one yanked from where they are and thrown back onto this or

they have to get someone else who's never done that to take over and try to reverse engineer what the first person was and both of these people don't want to talk to you they don't want to see you well because you made the problem

for them in their mind you literally invented the problem for them and it's like guys this game will be fucking dunked, flunked and absolutely failed because if I found this in the first day of my

7 day pass or 13 day pass you guys will work over at Sony and Microsoft we are going to find it within seconds and there's just no getting around this so you have to fix it and it's like ripping you out of the party and throwing you back

in the fucking hell zone to deal with this is the worst dude it is a demoralizer but no dessert for you until you finish your broccoli and you're like about to you've successfully hid the broccoli on the floor

and you're about to take a bite of your pie and then they find the broccoli and they go no, eat the broccoli off the floor fast compliance quality assurance is we are

the doctor that gets to say I'm sorry it was still born that was a bit of a dark analogy we are the ones who smack the ass and we hear no cry and

we hear nothing you couldn't have gone with something a little less horrible to listen to and they're like what's happening and it's like guys it's not it's not going to ship

and then the mom and dad look at you and go you killed our baby what did you do we can't ship it it's not going to ship put it back in see this is where the analogy starts to just completely fall apart

well this one needs a little extra time can't fix that it's funny because I've got the experience okay wait we can fix it we can fix it but we have to put it in the incubator it's going to take a lot of time

it's going to the ICU if you would just kept it in there for an extra couple weeks we wouldn't have to do this for a while it's in there you guys can't go anywhere we're stuck in the ICU for the next 30 days

we got to figure this out this is where we live now it's interesting because QA and compliance and all the stuff that is like 1000 bolts of this shit has to work dog it has to turn on is obviously vital

but from knowing many many many testers over my life and talking to industry people there seems to be a significant portion of the devs that look at QA and compliance with like antagonism by default because

it's not that I made the mistake making it it's you created the problem by finding it I told you guys about the nervous smoking man already I told you guys about your stupid testers are ruining our game I told you guys about the please ensure that your testers do not

use snarky language such as please ensure and all that but ultimately I'm describing though a feeling of like every department is working in the last you know

phase you all know is not what it should be and is a far cry from the vertical slice and you're like I just what do you got you what can you do I can't mentally just check

out and come in for the next X amount of who knows you know and be spiritually dead so I'm gonna find a cause and I'm gonna save it I'm gonna save this one part of the game I know I can fix it dude

you you should you should go take a look at if you haven't the no clip documentary on FF 14 because FF 14 was the biggest trash fire ever and every part of it was broken and

they interview like Yoshi P and he comes in and it's like the thought process of putting the fire out it's like okay can we save this no what can you do almost nothing

what is left okay work on this this and this and get ready to throw all that work in the trash will we make a new game on the side because it is just so like the failures are so dramatic

like can you improve the frame rate no okay can you improve the map no can you improve the servers a little and then they get like a couple weeks in

and it's like burn it down burn it all down burn it all down and it's this thing where they're putting up updates to improve the game just to buy time for the new one and the fact that that team was able to

turn it around at all with almost the same staff just because of like the change of like two management positions like shows just how important the whoever whatever captain is steering the ship is I will say

I will say that the energy I'm describing is very particular to in house when you're working at the studio if yeah because if you're working

third party boat bro third party like when something get like when what what I fucking hit that that W LAN switch put the PSP to sleep wake it up extract

the memory stick duo and then mash the sleep button and then the save file on an on a on a fucking shitty dating game corrupts the the firmware

and makes the firmware die we are like oh oh oh oh just straight up mori dancing like an intro baby in the in the fucking oh

oh oh oh right running chest bumps because we fucking nailed it and it's super different energy from being in the studio it's the energy that you brought to and infected all of us

with yes when yes when we did best friends where we'd be LP'ing and the game would just start to melt and everyone would start yes that's it that like this is I'm that my favorite contribution of anything is the energy

of we found the bug can we make it go further and when it dies the hardest you're like yeah look at it go look at it go where like it was Ray Mysterio got stuck midfall

on a fucking ladder and would just keep teleporting back to the upside down position on Kurt Angle guys it's the most exciting thing I've ever seen if you watch people who hit a bug in their game and they just go oh no

and then they hit the pause button and exit and restart it you're being robbed you're being robbed of such pure entertainment such pure joy you can't come in with the wrong energy bugs

are absolutely a reward and you have to realize them for what they are you know so that's it man when you're out in the fucking trenches that is a completely different story dude because you're just like hey we got it we did it we did our job

and then you get to the end of your contract and you're like this shit ain't gonna pass and then you shrug you know at the end of the day it's your job to find it and tell them and then they do whatever they can

and if you don't find it you're fucked oh yeah because that's literally what they are you are fucked do not not find it but if you find it and then they go we don't care you're like

then you hope then you hope then you hope then you hope then you hope then you hope no no no no 3.6.1

it will not ship and they're like fuck off and like alright catch you later enjoy your lack of your game shipping catch you later you know you get to just has that ever happened to you that you did that

and then the game didn't ship and then they came back to you absolutely what is that conversation when the thing has been found yeah you're like don't do a oh yeah

and then they go fuck off and then they find it and it doesn't ship and then they come back it happened to me directly as a tester and then it happened to me when I was in charge of the department and usually they're trying to find the person whose job it was or whatever the case is and if your job as the manager of the department

at that point is to go our team found it my guy totally told you about this here's the email of you being told about it here's the bug here's the conversation here's the shutdown here's you saying fuck off uh and this is

and this is this is evidence of our jobs being done that goes to the next person they basically often times will have on our side they'll be like the bosses will go like yeah okay we did our jobs this is we just got to soften this for the client and basically

it'll go to a producer who can then get on the phone because email is was you know it needs to be massaged more than an email and the position producer can get on the phone and go hey so hey if you take a look over here uh we have

evidence our testers found it they reported it here's everything you need to know and it looks like um this guy over here uh Jean Gaultier said uh no i don't know whatever fucking jg jf jm

insert name for random thing said um no fuck you i don't care tell your testers to die so they bring the buck to you and then you give the buck back to them with a name and they get to go okay uh we'll follow up and let you know and then they go back

to their side with the devs and they have whatever discussions they need to have and then you never ever hear about it ever again but you suspect well you know you know so um why is the qa team telling us that

they told you and that you told them to fuck off yeah i don't know exactly exactly uh yeah it's it's it's honestly that's there's it's hard to not feel satisfied

when you get to shut down that like attitude you know you're like why are you being snippy with me when i'm trying to help you you know so that that but you're like we don't want the game to fucking fail

you know what i mean but you definitely build up sometimes a resentment for like all right the people on this thing are just they don't care and they hate us and what am i supposed to say you know anyway um

it is uh it is a wild ride being on the outside in the in the in the third third person third third party department you know but when you're inside there's a whole lot more

concern it's a lot it's a lot different it's a lot different you know i'm sure the game development seems like it sucks shit dude it's a lot more glamorous on the outside there seem to be very few teams that actually have it on on lock

like super giant everybody seems really happy and nobody gets crunched and they make fucking killer shit they do they do and you're like wow that seems like they

would actually have fun um if you don't if you're okay with not maximizing every single stone for all the blood you can get

to then convert that blood into money then you can land somewhere nice but it's very important that the people that make decisions are okay with your

your general well being being somewhat of a priority and we can still make projects and we can still you know land something that will make a profit uh hopefully but like you're not going to you know

treat people like subhuman uh garbage on your way to trying to acquire that profit is team cherry like still like three people i would assume so i don't know because they're taking forever on silk song and by all means

fucking whatever just do whatever you need to do all right so a couple quick other things here to just move on to holy shit um fucking robocop is a mortal combat 11 mka mk 11 aftermath

fujin jiva robocop now the real question is uh will his x-ray consist of unloading an entire magazine into your dick and hopefully i fear the answer is no

but i really really really really really really wanted it to be did you see our robocop that's what i'm talking about oh man i want to see robocop unload the entire magazine reload it and empty a second

one all into your dick in the form of his x-ray attack into the dick right there excuse me fatal blow it's called fatal blow now uh yeah that's why uh

flashes on your when your life bar is about to run out there's a story mode continuing they left off in the which seems really bad yeah we end on such a like world resetting

note that where do you go from here and then it's like well some shit happens i suppose i really i really find it weird that like i think everyone drew the same conclusion

we are creating a whole new franchise after this right it's going to have the name mortal combat but we're going to a whole new world of who cares right time fuckery and nonsense we want so i did i did not feel that way really i thought

the takeaway i had was we are setting up the next game to have an all star cast of favorites that it doesn't matter when or where they came from and it doesn't matter whether the story has passed the dragon king

era or not dude they're literally going to restart at mortal combat one again yeah possibly but they're just but with the but with combat thing is so weird because the first three

games are cool and everything after was lame so they're just going to keep going back in time over but mk1 with new characters and different shit yeah sure they'll add like the whisper of fate but that's what i'm saying i'm saying like i have no problem with

it being like completely crazy different and new you know uh oh it will not be completely crazy different and new woolly okay scorpion well will be there okay he will not like sub zero the ending

seems to be a point at which from here on out we're going to do some crazy shit that leaves this timeline behind woolly i completely agree with you i just have no faith in mortal combat to actually do that

okay well they're totally just going to redo it again yes yes yes yes yes there's not there's not my point there's not my point the point i'm proud to make is at the last second before we get this reboot dlc campaign has to happen where

shang sung waltz went through a portal with shiva and and uh robo cop and they all go no wait before that there's this and it just seems like a really wacky moment to be like

okay all right one last romp one last romp with this roster you know gotta do it because uh it's fighting game stories you know and then uh fucking chronica

is gonna have her whatever she showed up in the trailer for a second so i'm like okay we're doing that again too i think the wildest thing possible is that we are two timelines in and sub zero has never beaten scorpion once

we're going to enter into a new timeline where the whole thing is going to be like just thinking of codel con and just the memory from ridin being he must not walk no matter what we have to

in a million timelines we have i went i read i read that god damn i read that fucking mkx comic and shit dude he's gonna they're gonna

find a way like there's gonna be all these close calls where like uh like a sink hole will open up right next to his his legs or like an arrow will land like right in front of his knees and everyone's like oh shit oh i don't know what am i thinking of is it

ah i'm thinking of i feel so bad for aztec fans because the past generation of fighting games made the aztec characters job harder than anyone ever

i'm came and went in like 10 minutes i'm trying and codel con was like actively character assassinated despite being the coolest new character in that game

i'm trying to remember a comedy it was a cartoon or a comedy show or a movie or something where there's a character that we all know is either like blind or in a wheelchair or something

and we see the flashback of like when they're when they didn't have that and then there's all these fake close calls do you know what i'm talking about does that ring a bell of like i does like it's like

what was it there's something because you're like what happened and then it ends up being like was it family guy people are saying hot tub time machine is that possible hot tub time machine

that rings that that sounds that sounds like hot tub time machine maybe what was the that sounds like the kind of what was the character i don't remember what was the character hot tub time machine that sounds correct i'm i'm i'm going to wiki right now

the snow plow the arm the arm the arm that's it there we go the guy the guy with the arm he yeah and you're like how did that happen and there's all these moments of just like oh my god is that how it happened and it's like no that's not how it happened

and there's all these fucking close calls yes yes i remember now hot tub time machine where they're just like you're just wondering the whole time how did he lose his arm yeah yeah yeah that's exactly it so just codal con

having all these weird moments of his knees almost getting blown the fuck out but it never lands and everyone stops whatever they're doing to stare and be like is this it is this how it happened no no no that wasn't it okay

yep yep captain marvel did that too with with nick fury's eye yeah with nick yeah how'd you how'd you lose your eye it's actually it was really fighting a bunch of fucking space scrolls it was wild save the planet

not stood yeah man new campaign one last romp before we get to the new universe and this really one feels like for funsies because the actor for shang sun came yeah of course and it's fucking robocop

i hope robocops in the story i mean if you can if terminator shows up and spawn shows up i hope i hope like i hope codal sorry i hope shang sung is like i will screw up the the first tournament with robocop

you know what's really cool is is it's really interesting is you can tell which characters and brands are the most up for crossovers by paying attention to like whether they did them in like comics and other bullshit

before this right there's so many brands and ip holders that are totally willing to go hang out with anyone else fucking terminator spawn and robocop have all crossed over with a million

things prior to this dude i have i have a straight up easier distinction but it doesn't hit every note on everybody and it's what r rated movies had children's cartoons oh shit if your r rated movie had a children's

brand is up for crossover toxic crusaders they fucking they fucking took a trauma movie and turned it into a kids cartoon dude yeah robocop and terminator getting kids toys like in hindsight

is so fucking warped dude alex murphy getting killed is one of the most violent on screen deaths ever in a movie i had terminator toys i fucking they were great i had alien toys dude yeah i had

i had aliens toys and they were great bishop with the fucking white blood and the and the different aliens and the like the scorpion alien part when you fucking hit the button to absolutely man like they they 100%

just like they sold a toy that was from a thing that the kids should not have watched but who the fuck cares we can market it we can find a way 100% 100% uh judge dread was definitely

one of those two yeah yeah Rambo um anyway moving on real quick i'm gonna say that there's a couple of these that feel like they're targeted woolly stories that i was like yay all right let's hear it

let's hear the universe targeting you one bubble bobble four friends coming to ps4 this winter fuck yes that does feel targeted as shit i love me some

bubble bobble that game goes back like a really specific japanese cute aesthetic that you adore bubble bobble it comes from it's not even it's not the aesthetic at all bubble bobble has a but the aesthetic is great yes

but it's not about that i like Kirby because i've always i've always liked Kirby but Kirby for me i i loved Kirby because of the gameplay i loved Kirby because of the gameplay i liked the mega manning you know the power stealing aspect of it

all that shit was rad i really enjoyed that and and taking on all the different forms was really fun like it was not even about the cuteness of it per se um bubble bobble was the cartridge that my cousins owned that i would want to go to their house to play and they'd loan it to me but like

they'd always make me fucking do shit to get a whiff of it like i'd have to run to the corner store and buy them popsicles to borrow the game or and they fucking held it over my head but it was just the cartridge that my cousins happened to own that was a game i didn't have that i really liked

playing that i had a whole lot of fun with so i just grew really attached to bubble bobble from it being one of whatever you know random cartridges that we could have had turned out it was a fucking really fun game to play as well and it was super duper

hard to get through the the last levels of it but dear god is it fucking classic man and when they came back and they had puzzle bobble and all that i'm like that's cool that's a really fun game too but it's got nothing on the joy of just dropping down into the fun little

puzzle world with your little dragons and blowing bubbles on shit it's a good game man bubble bobble is great man it's coming back and it's four players good and they have the song i'm glad and it's one of those things where you're like

this song will play for the entire session until you die you're gonna hear this song and it will never stop and you will not have a problem with it you will love it i don't know what's

going on you have no idea how the song goes huh i have no idea what you're talking about how could that song go who knows i guess we'll never know how the song goes

and it turns out in other news rage of the dragons has gotten picked up your tweet was enlightening more playable characters than yes yes this this is a real

like huh what why i don't know and i don't care i fucking love it so happy bunch of people

that are all new and missed me marking out last time were like what the fuck is this game and why have i never heard of it you've seen the sprite of jimmy lee doing his super at the end of my get into fighting games intro but rage of the dragons

is the unofficial double dragon fighting game that was made because a lot of people in south america are huge fans because of the original double dragon fighting game for the neo-geo and so they there was a point where the double dragon license was in

complete limbo and no one had it as it often yes it often returns to limbo double dragon and double dragon double dragon river city ransom and kunio are some of the most weird baffling things where the original

guy owned the license and could give it out to other people as he deemed fit so at the point where they made this game it was official because there was no official anything there's no one to say otherwise eventually it became unofficial when the license

was reacquired and you know whatever that that game got ignored but it is a it is a unofficial official double dragon fighting game and i fucking love it it's a two on two fighter it's really fun the character yeah i remember playing it with you it's good

the designs are really interesting i like the characters change over you know and the like billy and jimmy becoming more of their own individuals and there's some bimmy and jim yeah sure you know and a bubo a bobo was a bobo

was a bobo in that and he had his his own fucking aesthetic and yeah man it just had a bunch of cool shit going on you know it was it was the coolest thing happening with double dragon up until uh neon came out yeah

neon came out and then there was good shit but until neon that was it you know so um this is getting picked up and i don't know what they're gonna do i don't know if they're gonna treat it as if it's still that or not but those characters did end up going into matri mele

which is developed by the same people um and matri mele is a fight it's from the power instinct fighting games and those were fucking garbage until again matri mele where they got better you know i've i've super i've lost the thread

like this is like an unofficial game going having characters go into an obscure other thing yeah so power instinct was this really bad super nintendo fighting game and then um the same people that made rage of the dragons went on to make this thing called power instinct matri mele

and that basically had similar gameplay it was it wasn't too on to anymore but it was you know still felt pretty solid and then that um ended up just throwing in a bunch of guest characters from rage of the dragons because they're like we made that game too so why the fuck not and then um

here we are so whenever you hear my um whenever you hear my uh uh uh the wedding the hyped up wedding song on my stream intro that comes from power instinct matri mele and whenever you see jimmy lee

punching the ground and exploding in fire that comes from rage of the dragons and now we're gonna get a new game can't wait or the old game but re-released with like real things who knows third there's a there's a thing

it's called ghost runner it's first person and it involves ridiculously rad looking cool ninja shit you do air dodges you do you do lots of cool melee things you you mirrors edge it for a little bit

you um shadow warrior it sometimes you get to the orange door it sometimes you super hot it sometimes and i like all of that so i'd like to try it out but there's a demo out for that um and i think

it's up until two days from now actually so you gotta you gotta look at it real quick i think it's going away on the 13th looks fucking sick though looks really cool so weird like times demo yeah i don't know i guess

it's the force people now but unless you have like a network test you're doing for a stress test like i don't see what the point of limiting the demo time is that that seems kind of intuitive um and then

yeah smk gal fighters is uh up on switch and if you want to know where the original um madam x eory character came from you can go play this is basically there's a bunch of snk

um neogeo pocket color fighters that they made and they all kind of look and feel the same they have the same kind of cute sprite aesthetic and they all feel pretty solid to play they're all pretty decent as far as handheld fighting games go back then they were like the only not shit ones

you know with very few exceptions so that's getting that got put on this the switch and you can even play it head to head literally because you can play um where you each hold a joy con and the game has two copies split

across the middle of the screen and you can each play using your own side of the machine um almost the almost similar to how it was like sitting with a little uh neogeo pocket color being connected so pretty cool pretty cool that's a fun feature i'm a fan of that

all right let's take some emails no you're not you are not getting out of this news section without talking about that skull girls update skull girls had an update and skull girls skull girls

went through so we talked about last week how they uh basically mike z went yo i can make the skull girls netcode better so we talked about how they did and they found a way to make the rollback work better

that rolled out yay that was awesome perfect perfect moment to have a game that already has great netcode to be even better and then alongside that came uh another update where mike z basically

went hey so now when you connect to people you can see what kind of connection they have uh you can see if they're wired or on wi-fi and that is there's no way to turn it off yeah that is a feature that has existed in

Mortal Kombat 11 for a year now by the way uh oh cool didn't apparently a lot of people didn't know that and i'm gonna go ahead and guess that it's because it was rolled out in the whole package and not a unique uh

news story i think the only reason why this was caught in this way is because it was a unique news story onto itself as opposed to part of the full package because no one seems to have known that mk was doing this the entire time and it was

people are saying it's in Dead or Alive 6 and in Justice 2 it's great it's a fucking fantastic feature and you connect to somebody ranked and you can just see hey this is on that connection cool i feel i'm let's play no don't want to do that whatever um

and and then someone says oh what if what about a filter for it and then uh you know mike says uh hey now that's too far i think but you know the information is there so yes uh what what did we see we saw like a a uh

highlights from a resettler thread where some folks were uh under the impression that this was a bad thing because um they deserve refunds man because you're just you're shaming well the game that's not well the game was two dollars but um you know

people hey dude people can't afford wireless internet if you have the internet is is my favorite if you have a router uh you probably have another net port on the back of it if you have wi-fi let's you have wired i don't understand that let's let's ignore the fact that the default

state of internet is wired yeah like the only only that's the the only exception i can think of is like if you're in a dorm room where you're not allowed to own a router or something like that where you have or you're in like a hotel or not a

hotel but like you're in a place where you're given a wi-fi password and that's that right that's the only type of like otherwise if you're in a place where you are paying for internet uh unless you're well then you shouldn't feel bad because it's not your fault it's out of your control um it is

uh or you know if you're some if you're stealing internet via wi-fi of your neighbor then you might not have access to another net port i suppose but for the most part if you do have internet you're gonna have a port that you can plug a wire

into and that's neither here nor there it's really just um this needs a filter this needs a filter so bad and it needs to put like a a hat on your character like a dunce hat

i think i think i think uh i i agree with mike in that it's like if it shows you the information you can choose to do with that information what you will i think that's more than fair you know mortal combat pops up shows you the challenger shows you the information and then it lets you

decline or accept the challenge you know when it comes to it um yeah there's a lot of that uh you know and then uh there are some folks that were saying that like oh like this is a you know a privilege to take and perhaps like there could be like arcade stick privilege

and things like that and uh uh uh sure fuck it well no the the the why not because i get i only want to play against people who don't use arcade sticks i think i think all of it more or less just is like it it there's a point where you're like

well this doesn't make sense and this doesn't make sense and then it's so divorced from what's happening if you just played the game that you're like okay this is very very clear to me that you're not actually people that play

these games or this game in particular never are um you're you have a very strong opinion about it but it's it seems like you don't actually play them um and you know there definitely will be folks that say yeah i do i do play them and i still feel this way and of course there's no absolutes you know but

these some of these opinions were definitely really really extreme in that regard and i feel like um from the takes which it sounded like in the extreme minority most people did i was i didn't i didn't go look but i was told that most

of the thread was people telling those people that that makes no sense um and apparently getting banned up for it i don't know i don't like at the end of the day dude one of the getting getting banned on reset era seems to be a trivial

uh well i someone said something to the effect of like do like remember when like we used to bring up like neogaph all the time and i'm like i never had an account i literally really didn't ever you guys you and matt and you guys would always talk about

neogaph stuff and reset our stuff but i never used to browse those forums i didn't do anything there i used to talk about gaff stuff and then i was like oh cool reset era and i made an account and i think i made two posts on it ever and then i was like um i've never been anywhere i've never been a person that used either of those for i love gaff though

gaff yeah i was out so i just do you know please do not whirlwind me into something that i have nothing to do with you know but for the most part um what i can tell is that uh yeah man that just sounds like someone who really doesn't know anything about the subject matter and

that's not a crime you know there's a lot of times when you don't know a thing about a subject matter but one would hope that with a hopefully there's a you can catch an explanation that makes sense to you but there's so many there's a lot of people that also um tried and failed and we're

just like dude don't bother you know and i mean i there was there was someone in the very thread that we are discussing uh uh that was aggressively like not wanting to hear the truth about any of this and just had their perspective on it and

and it's that you know it doesn't matter that my participation here makes the game unplayable it is my prerogative to connect to the game and play it badly and if

you can't play it the way you want to that's too bad for you i'm allowed to have my own way with this and um you know there's a point to be made where well the game certainly doesn't

make it impossible for you to play that way so you could argue that if you wanted to you're just gonna find that most people will think it's kind of dickish because there's a bit of in a bit of a social contract in place

and you can't enforce it what's a social contract that seems stupid god damn it i'm gonna do what i want you can do what you want you might get called out for it and you might be no you can't call me out okay well also also well it doesn't work that way

my name is karen it doesn't work that way you can do what you want it does work that way you can you're not wrong i'll fight you you can do what you want you might get called out for doing what you want no i'm gonna call out your call out because call outs are bad don't call me out

i'm gonna shit up this wi-fi i'm gonna shit it up and that's my right god damn it well um i'm gonna shit it up who are you to tell me not to shit it up i'm in my house you don't pay myself

i would love to see what it looks like when someone is enjoying the character is teleporting over the screen like i i i they don't that's why they're so mad well i mean again i think the truth of the matter is the person who is saying all this doesn't have the game they haven't played it

i think it's it's more of a statement about a piece of news oh no woolly i i play a god damn mmo these people do play the game they are real you don't pay myself okay that sure that that yeah definitely it is everyone else's responsibility to carry their enjoyment

but i think a lot of the people that are chiming in with that information usually going through the conversation you'll get to a point where they'll say something to the effect of see this type of mean spiritedness and exclusivity is why i don't play fighting games and it'll be like well there it is

you just said it right you are coming at this with an understanding of i don't know what genre you play perhaps it's something server based you know perhaps it's something that does not need to handle

packet loss the same way that a fighting game does in some cases the genre you play is literally nothing um perhaps it becomes very confusing why you're talking about video games at all but it usually shows at some point that it's like

you don't have familiarity with games that like require two players to have a good connection with each other if the person drops out of another genre of game where that doesn't matter they're just gone from the match and that's the end of it um so

you know i'm making a lot of assumptions of course about who this type of person might be because it's just i'm trying to characterize it but for the most part what you end up with is something that it feels like at first i'm like this is absurdly stupid but then i have

then i kind of like go through a second take of it and go you don't know and you're commenting on a subject matter that you just have an opinion about without actually getting it you're missing information you know um yeah not much else to say except

uh the state of affairs is that the indicator is there it's also there in the games we mentioned and with any hope this will continue to be the status quo and um hopefully we can get some filters and i don't think we need filters

but i do think and some shame features i do think that if we get this to be the status quo we will probably um you know it i think it matters more that the people who do understand the overwhelming majority of people who do understand

why this is a good thing have a have a good have a good experience i think it's more i think it's important that they have a good experience with the game and this would add and contribute to that as opposed to um

you know like people who don't play the game that don't own it that don't i think that the natural end point of this is that you play a bunch of games and it shows that you disconnect a couple times

not not enough for it to be a problem but a couple and that the game is recorded your packet loss per match and that you go to again into skull girls and it says hey we notice that you're always playing on wifi and that you're making a bad experience

for other players we have elected to put you into the wifi prison where you can now only play people that are using wifi so the same thing as rage quit jail and cheater jail yes but now it is wifi jail and you know what let's save

some development resources and make it all the same jail just just to cut out the middle man because what is wifi base teleporting other than cheating cheating by accident maybe i don't want to see it but if i see

someone start to do it i'm not going to exactly raise my hand to stop them wait no don't do that don't do that to those players yeah the gulags a wifi player is just a quitter

ah boy ah boy i mean one thing is for certain right like the early days of the connecting to things made it such that like

wifi was not as common but now it was actually straight up uncommon having wifi was the fancier internet it's funny because this is also like a

sorry one could say that the people with the wifi were the privileged ones originally and now you have consoles like the switch

where they don't even have an ethernet port so you don't even get the choice to fucking be hardwired in the switch is a really good example because it's a spectrum of dumb shit on one end you have the switch which doesn't come with a wifi port sorry it doesn't come with an ethernet port

so there is actually a monetary investment that you need to do to get a thing everyone's drowning in ethernet cables or knows somebody who has a spare ethernet cable I'm gonna put the cost of an ethernet cable at zero everybody knows someone that

people have posted their walmart things of like here's one for 15 bucks it's humongous or whatever the fuck but switch you gotta buy an adapter and that's like a thing right so you end up with a lot of people and switch games online with wifi because the system is

actually trying to stop you from using ethernet which is stupid as fuck then you have your consoles right which they can use wifi and they can use ethernet and then they have you know depending on where it is in your house or the ability of you

to put that console where you want in your house is gonna determine that and then you have pcs in which like who who who no one is using wifi for their pc

I'm not talking about their laptop most people are using ethernet sorry wifi for their laptops right but for their pc like you'd have to install like a something with a wireless card in there instead of just using the fucking built-in ethernet port

yeah um there's a million analogies one can come up with for a type of game where you are hold on a second

we have a lot of people here saying I use wifi for my pc what are you fucking stupid plug a cable in morons it'll go faster vroom it's like getting a free internet upgrade for like 10 bucks

internet go faster vroom like come on the issue with wifi in terms of fighting games is consistency not speed though just fyi everything will go faster when you're acquiring

a film and packets get lost you have to re-acquire part of the film again because you're on wifi yeah that's gonna go faster um I'm lucky enough that my router is sitting on top of my pc

um so mine's like uh I think it's one foot away but I had to do some extra fancy cabling around my basement to do so and I goddamn did it I also got an orbi if you need to run a goddamn 100 foot ethernet cable on your fucking

bare floor and tape it down like duct tape and look like an asshole you should do it I got an orbi system that is like wifi signal boosting for the apartment for like you know like phones and shit um and

those do actually have cables you can run to but it's like it just depends it really depends if you're gonna play a game that requires um you know peer to peer connections with people like you gotta

you know well you don't gotta but dear god please you can understand that the ruining of the game is not going to be seen favorably by the other person on the other line who also paid for their copy that is going to try and enjoy it and they can't

you know so the thing you were saying earlier I really feel like it nails it and it is that the people who are always fighting against it and saying oh wifi's fine whatever and it's like the game would be better for them it would it would like significantly

um yeah it's a very you know it's a very strange thing because it's like it's just too seeing it's seeing the perspective it's it's glass half full glass half empty where it's just like you know both players are having their experience ruined and you know there's this sign

that is like well if one person is philosophically leaning towards the idea that you know no one connection should be considered better than another then you're gonna hit a world where um we both lose out

effectively and and and um when the word like comes out let's just like oh like the dismissive word in the discussion was like oh it's just elitism it's just elitist bullshit and it was kind of just like

I yeah I don't I guess it is I don't see the line from I just want my game to function you know to that's woolly

that's elitist because the problem is is that fighting games in particular don't have good net codes they have bad ones that result in many times an unplayable state being possible

through the game's own like systems again like there's not enough in place to stop an unplayable match from occurring so we have had to go through a series of unwritten rules so to speak social contracts of like

this is probably how we both want to enjoy the game we spent some money on there's a bunch of analogies you can use for this I personally like the idea of an F1 in which everyone's got their F1 cars and a guy

shows up with his 93 Ford Tempo and wants to be led on to the track and you're like dude you can't like your car's gonna be like a brick out there it's gonna be dangerous for the other racers it's gonna ruin the race and the guy starts screaming about that's elitist

cause I don't have a race car except all the cars in this situation cost the same and the Ford Tempo actually costs more because Wi-Fi is more expensive than Ethernet yeah no that works that does work um my analogy I was trying to explain to

punch mom yesterday was terrible I think I described like imagine you have to play a poker game but somebody had a compulsion where they had to peek over at the person next to them's cars and yell them out at the table and it was

you can't play with that person you can't play with that person and the fighting tournament was completely open entry with no rules and you had like a bunch of kids walk in yeah and then when you're like I don't think these kids should be in this death tournament yeah the kids are like

you guys are just hatein' on us cause we're kids I forgot that the race car analogy from like many episodes ago worked really well and we're still on that um and and yes yes here we are talking about connections and fighting games for 30 minutes on the podcast

I like to bring connections out to everything all all connections I know I know I know talking with people on wifi that like are using voice chat can suck shit too I know I know I just

talking like I was not allowed to get out of the news without discussing this but let the I don't know if you know this let the record show that I tried like if you are are getting to up and down a lot of bandwidth

with wifi it makes your dick smaller it makes your dick smaller let the record show if your dick is being hit with tons of wifi powered signals all the time because you like to play fighting games

online with wifi your your pin or get small and for the record while we're talking about trying and structure the topics we covered on the podcast were scarlet nexus the medium the ascent

the chorus call of the sea scorn bright memory gravity well the studio mortal combat 11 after math bubble bubble for friends gal fighters

rage of the dragons and ghost runner so there are your topics dude I just found this I just found this article it's super real it says that on average the average wifi player

is more unattractive than the average direct connected ethernet no kidding it's true the wifi signals they they hit the skin and they warp it no actually it seems to be thought that

people are using wifi to hide their unattractiveness the packet loss obscures enough of their visage I thought it was because the contained ethernet cable actually keeps all the the horrible internet

energy from corrupting the skin and the flesh damage yeah but the but the broadcast wifi goes through your body as it goes through your device and that degrades the flesh and the skin and it makes things look awful

so for those of you who are looking at the at the stream right now then can see me hello hello everyone you might be shocked to know this but I once looked at a wifi router

from a couple feet away and I'm actually only 22 years old okay okay I was hit with unshielded wifi energy from a fighting yeah and aged 10 years

in a day speaking of 22 years old I was I was given the impression that that's the about the age of the person that would that was making these these claims hey Willie how bad

is it for you when you start talking to somebody and you're like what are you like a fucking idiot and they're like no I'm only 22 and you're like oh yeah I guess you are then like I feel like I'm getting older

by a year every day yeah every once in a while every once in a while such as last night for example you kind of you click reply and then you stop and then you back out

and then you click the profile and you see oh 1997 okay all right no we're good we're good we're done here so never mind I have yeah I had that moment once yeah at that age yeah go on where I was

like I was on Twitter and I received a dumb comment which was very stupid and aggressive and I was like should I dunk on this person this is very stupid here it comes here it comes and then I went and then I looked

and I was like oh this is like a like I'm not even sure if this is an adult right like they might even be like 50 with that really be okay to make fun of a child

we all been there and in the time that I was thinking that my brain like part of my brain in the back screams nah fuck and I quote retweeted their dumb bullshit and was like man you're fucking

super dumb and I felt great because it was easy because children are weak and you could punch them they're right and they're not strong enough to punch you back in time with your words

yeah well Jordan was right fuck them kids they weren't around when Jordan was being right yeah I guess that is the problem you know

this is one of those cases where you know there's a you hit them with that okay boomer and you know it's like yeah that's well you hit the kid with the ok boomer they snap back with the ok boomer

like for example right now where you're just like ahhh what are you fucking 20 something get a fuck out but it's like no but you're missing information and if you had this information if you acquired it at an earlier time

in your life you would have had a better understanding of the subject matter which you are now very passionately arguing for and you would not sound as stupid as you currently do but god bless I'd like to respond

to one last comment here because I think it's really funny somebody points out that Pat you are small, fat, out of shape and most teenagers could probably are probably stronger than you that is 100% true

however, however most teens and children have grown up in zero tolerance schools which means most of them didn't get their ass kicked like I did when I was younger and the ability to know that it's not the end of the world

being punched in the face gives you the ability to take a couple hits and really just punch somebody in the throat what? I'm talking about fighting children what's the problem here there's another side of this conversation that makes it make sense yeah

anyway, I could fight a bunch of children I'm sure I could beat up probably like 15, 4 year olds is that still like a quiz you can do I would just like to take the opportunity to give a shout out on the subject matter

to Corey Bell and James Chen who have a podcast called OK Sonic Boomer where Corey asks a bunch of questions as a new FGC member

to an old G and James tells him what it was like back in the day how things used to be growing up at the early days of the FGC and it's fun it's a good time if you want to hear what it used to be like

OK Sonic Boomer solid name solid concept, good execution solid finish I'm getting a series of like very confused texts OK

these kids with the wifi you gotta fight them am I free yeah you're free e-mails e-mails hey if you want to send in an e-mail

send it to castlesuperbeastmail at gmail.com that's castlesuperbeastmail at gmail.com we got one coming in here from Dylan says I would like as warhammership by the way

this brings about an uncomfortable situation where the best course of action regardless of their disposition towards you is to kill every last one of them so the corruption stops considering the creatures responsible are evil demon worshipers rat people, vampires this is easily brushed off but looking at it objectively it's basically establishing

the programmer strat that dealing with corruption is ostensibly genocide right now I'm going through a mortal empire's campaign as a dark elf leader Maleketh starts allied with his actual mother who has the neat little quirk of exuding

chaos corruption herself while being immune to its negative effects she recently moved in direct south of my borders and the temptation to break our alliance and shank her ass to stop the corruption is very real just thought I'd bring this up apparently if you confederate her the corruption stops

but basically kill your mom to stop the corruption so total war actually steps this really elegantly by pointing out that when you play as the lizard man or the scaven or whatever

genociding all the others is great and you should do it because they're awful I think there's a quote from the Mandalore video in which the fantasy of warhammer total war is to sell around the world and discover new

cultures and destroy them because they are awful in warhammer and warhammer 40k every single creature in the world is the worst except for yours which is slightly less than the worst like

the dark elves they're like pure evil in warhammer they're literally the most evil race to ever exist it's the natural end point of if it feels good do it okay

and that could mean anything also the scaven are literally a rat tied of freakazoids so the game doesn't paint and the vampires are vampires none of these are painted as sympathetic then now even the empire

which is based on like the holy roman empire is like the shittiest human empire to ever exist see what I thought where that email was going was that there's currently a problem warhammer to called the order tied

so at the end of the game the chaos factions are supposed to team up with the extra faction the orders of chaos or whatever and sweep over the map in a big evil tide but there are more good factions than there are bad factions right now okay and bad factions don't tend to ally

with themselves well because of the corruption but the good factions do tend to ally with themselves well so endgame often ends up in the situation where the elves and the humans and the dwarves and whatever have all teamed up and a bunch of the bad factions

are wiped out so shit so what's supposed to be like evil's coming to ruin the world is actually like good is so powerful that the evil has no chance hmm is that anything like

how the race selection in like wow was like massively biased in favor of humans a little bit but this is based off an existing like series of races and who gets what dlc in what order

and but in warhammer it's like actually mechanical as well where it's in where the warcraft so people are pointing out that there are more horde than alliance oh really

that is decades later back in the day in 2004 I'm talking about when alliance was massively favored like alliance had more work put into their zones they had all the pretty races

it was all my old roommate would complain about you know was how unbalanced it was and like I just remember yeah I have no idea what it is currently I'm spouting fucking ancient shit world of warcraft showed off that whatever

side of a thing has the pretty race will have a huge huge huge advantage in player base right like just enormous fucking the alliance had humans and night elves

right and orcs and goblins and they didn't have nobody right then when the blood elves came out for the goddamn horde all of a sudden the player right right played pretty elf what ends up happening though

is when alliance had this giant amount of players and horde had all these players playing the ugly characters it turned out and it stayed true and I have friends who played alliance and I get annoying every time I mention this that you ended up with a situation that horde players knew how to actually play the game and alliance players

were playing with their dolls and our trash and bad stupid people that's what my old roommate used to say and he would also say literally and he would talk about how like you know the woes of being a tauren

in a world where everyone else is like an alliance or whatever it's this thing where like playing a pvp character where you can fight everywhere is a very different experience depending what like racer or what faction

you're going to be because all the really crazy psychos are hanging out on horde and they'll ruin your day because fuck you alliance they'll camp the fucking spawn of every quest giver in the zone for weeks

because fuck y'all you guys suck the game this actually bleeds in quite nicely perfectly to the next question here because keep that same energy in thought

got it the thought process you're on right now so we got one here oh my god oh man someone's been paying attention it's been a while it's been a minute since guns

for when you get pared down to a game you are just the title of this game woof okay we take it scott from australia here loving the original

i love the idea of the original star wars galaxies the mmo from 2003 had a lot of jank but is remembered fondly for its original premise becoming a jedi class i've talked about this was originally intended to be almost impossible you would unlock

the ability to play one through a bunch of checks and conditions the player was unaware of to keep the class super rare and the checks and conditions were randomized per character creation the jedi are super powerful and this game was set in the original trilogy timeline

so that makes sense right needless to say the idea lasted maybe a few months into release before jedi were discovered and a quest line was added so everyone could become one what was your favorite concept that never made into the finished final product

so this whole thing i remember this specifically and i feel like we've already discussed it at some point that like i get that people are going to buy the star wars game to be a jedi

and swing the lightsaber around but me being the fucking like lore loving idiot that i am i love the idea of you're not special go fucking

be a person in this world and like hopefully the other jobs would be fun the key here dude that jedi should kill that the key is that other jobs that are not jedi should be really fun right but

and then you design a good game around that but like jedi are fucking rare and special and playing in an mmo that should make sense if everyone's running around with their lightsaber overseas it's stupid it just doesn't it doesn't check out but

but the idea of someone being like i'm buying this product to be a jedi please is like if it's an mmo where you're supposed to coexist i'm much rather the one where it is a rare and special

thing it feels like it's internally consistent but most people don't want to not be special they want to swing the lightsaber around and god what are you gonna do right and i again i get it it's like i'm gonna spend money on this monthly thing so that i can't

be a jedi fuck you i'm like yeah i know i know fair enough fair enough i just i like the idea of the rarity being like preserved there's a there's a thing that wow tried to do which was a prestige

classes or hero classes or whatever the fuck and they wanted to do death knights and they were like oh we're gonna do death knights and there's a problem with death knights and the problem with death knights is one they're evil and unassociated with either faction and two they're supposed to be better than the other classes

so how what was the solution and the solution was they started at the like the level cap or near the level cap to signify that there is no weak version of a death knight but then it just became another class like as soon as you hit cap they all evened out

and every idea that like oh that they were special was thrown in the garbage i wonder it's like there's no solution to that problem i wonder if you made it so that everyone can pick up a lightsaber and swing it around but not be

classified as a jedi would be would solve it temporarily whether or not you were force sensitive you could still swing it it mattered so this will never work because in m.o.'s particularly you can sell your account you're not supposed to

yep yep nope that's it yep that's it you fucking you found it jedi account on sale $8,000 dude i have a jedi account $8,000 $2,000 $3,000 max ranked

what color lightsaber blue i got the robes i have the perfect looking jedi everything set yeah totally totally totally i mean shit i'll turn you can't you can't have a group community experience that has a permanent thing

that is only for some players people will acquire it somehow what if no one could be a jedi except for mods who were on the server gm's gm's rather gm's on the server walking around policing via jedi mind tricks

that's a perfect solution wouldn't that have been great yeah because if players are being complete assholes a gm can just come in and in universe jedi the shit away that feels like it would be a really fun way to deal with it

but then of course like if you want to go on an adventure with it with the fucking with a jedi then gm's got to work they got a police the bm so they can't come adventuring with you you know

yeah it's a no win man the biggest problem with mmo's you have to play them with other people and if there's like it's also a bit of i don't have this as much anymore

right because i mean like i said i get it but there's definitely that my first reaction to the idea of mmo's was like okay cool you're playing this massive game with everybody and then there was and then there was times when i kind of hit these moments of like staring at like my

roommate playing wow and stuff and i just i'm looking at a town square where everyone looks like this crazy fucking kitted out golden god and everyone is glowing on their amazing mounts and we're all we're just like 50 gods

just wandering around the town with glowing eyes and phoenix falcons and i'm just like i did what okay no i get it we're all cool we're all heroes

we're all fucking strong but there's just something you have to get past where like there is no normal here it is a population of fucking badasses it is it is the weirdest thing because like ff14 had this thing where there's cosmetic items

that are only available in like the chinese and korean versions of the game they're all terrible they're all like korean mmo cosmetics and the worst one by far was that the white and black angel wings that you could add to your

character and those eventually came over to the the main version in japan and the us and like the instant those things hit the store and people started using them they are the only thing

in the entire game that looks like that and they look fucking terrible they look so awful and like you look at them and it's dude it is that i am madly in love with like the social mechanics of an mmo

because you're looking at this character whose art style now clashes with every single person on the server and they look like a fucking like chuny like totally totally

and you don't even have to see their username and you go that guy is an asshole like just like i can see them being an asshole from a distance and it says a lot that i have never ever

ever seen one of those people in a dungeon i have never run a raid i have never run an instance in which i have ever seen those characters with those fucking wings on only in the open world

only in the big zerg rush type of fucking things if everyone is special no one is that is that is a thing and then you play an mmo for a bit and you get to the thing if you're like if you ask

to be able to roll on something and then somebody goes yeah sure and then they roll on it even though they said yeah sure you ban them they disconnect five times and don't apologize ban them if their dps isn't 800 or more

because they're just using your auto attack ban them i don't care and then you do this for a night and your friends i'll tell you pat the version of the game you want to play has no one in it and i go good good ban them all and then the game will die

and that will be better you want a single player game ban everyone but the seven people in the chat that i'm talking to right now did you play city of heroes that was a game that had a really strong character creator to the point where

people would make licensed characters non-stop and they'd have to get their characters kicked off the servers you can't make wolverine yes we gave you claws and the ability to give yourself hair spikes no you can't make logan

stop it dude it was powerful i have an mmo mentality experience thing that i know can speak to you so there's a big argument in ff14 because there's story stuff that you have to do

to unlock things and keep going right and every now and then a patch comes out or an expansion comes out like the final boss of the patch or the final boss of the expansion stormblood had this and something called chrysalis had it and it is way more

difficult than the average stuff that you would normally do it's not a raid, right? it's not like a for real ass thing but it is it's a significant thing so there was a boss in stormblood called shinryu and you had to beat it

to beat the expansion to unlock all the endgame stuff and it was tough it wasn't like the end of the world it wasn't like really hard but it was tough you had to know how to play the game and when people started to get to the end of

stormblood just this low scream started to come from the audience which was this is too hard I can't beat it I can't find anyone to help me beat it

it's the first week and I can't play the endgame I can't do my stuff this isn't fair I deserve to be able to beat it and then you had on the other side of things being everyone who beat it in like a second

because it's not hard going good stay down there don't come up with us don't become a part of my daily roulette don't become a part of this stuff

because if you're complaining that you can't beat shinryu that means you suck ass and I don't want to get stuck in a dungeon with you and the problem with that is that that's like 80-90% of people in the game

it's huge and so the first patch comes out like 4.05 or whatever and it's a week later and they make it easier and people start asking friends to carry them through

and then the quality of person in your average gameplay experience starts to drop and drop and drop and you used to be able to go in a party finder and say hey everybody who wants to do this raid

susano or whatever right and you'd fill up with people and you'd bang your head against it for a couple hours and you would do it and then you would do it and then the week after that god damn it do you get a bunch of mouth breathing fucking dumb asses who can't do a single rotation

and suddenly party finder is worthless and you have to just get a crew together because oh my god what is wrong with all of you people maybe they should put a shinryu badge so that people can see when you join up if you've defeated him

and then they can choose what to do with that information guess what well it all comes full circle so if you want in the times back in heaven's word

when it was fucking shit toxic as hell because the game was becoming more popular and everyone was trash and no one knew how to play the game you ended up with party finder and it was you are going to come into party finder

with the title you get from killing the boss with one fight and you would load in and you would get a message at the bottom of the screen and the message would say because there's a new player in here you guys will get a bonus

and the fucking party chat starts to explode with who the fuck didn't clear who the fuck is new this is a fucking fight for only people who have cleared what are you doing in here and then you would start to put your title on put your fucking title on

you have to understand this sounds like the most toxic shit in the world it's yeah it's super toxic man fuck dude this is exactly what those people

were complaining about earlier when we were discussing fucking what it was this is actually it though and so here's the thing here's the breakdown yeah ok no no seriously

here's the thing there's three types of parties learning practice sorry learning clear farm one is let's go in there and see what it does two is

we know what it does let's struggle through to clear it and farm is everyone in here has this shit on lock let's just run it a bunch to get the rewards right what do you get so that's the social contract you're giving out

right I'm gonna make a clear party I expect everybody to know most of it and we're gonna give it a shot no judgment if you can't clear we're gonna make a learning or practice party right to be assumed that nobody knows what they're doing

right but if you make a farm party and you see that fucking new player bonus come up somebody lied if you made a room in a fighting game that said only ethernet connections only and you get that little toggle in the upper right

and you get the high five players who joined fuck off and the best thing is that because runs take 10 minutes if somebody doesn't know what they're doing but everybody else does congrats you've wasted 70 minutes of time

for all involved overall as stated at the beginning of the conversation MMOs you gotta play them with everybody everybody well hold on there's one more cause you wanted a badge right World of Warcraft

has badges for clearing single player content that shows off hey you're able to hit these numbers hey you're able to do this thing hey you're able to whatever and so it then becomes you need to have like a gold star in this thing to be allowed in

and FF14 has said that we don't want to do that cause that's too exclusionary and too toxic which has led to a black market of performance metrics

you can run a parser which will tell you what the damage and over healing and everything that everyone on your team is doing but if you get caught it's against the rules and you will be banned so people who really care are running parses and being able to tell who in the group

sucks shit but they're not able to tell why that person sucks shit because there's no in game way to tell how much damage somebody is doing and you're going to risk getting banned for this all you have to do

is not say how you know that just say so I was watching I was doing my thing and I could see your cooldowns you seem to be over healing during this part okay okay ACT is for self improvement only

now just so I can understand here though I have friends who are playing MMOs just with their friends as couples just hanging out doing stuff and they're

playing with their toys as you said and there's RP servers where people go and do that and they just make their cosmetic they can dress up there I believe the term is tunes I got yeah oh man they're old school

if they're calling them tunes now the only there's no problem with this the only problem is if someone is attempting to do this content that is meant for so I'm making this sound way more

toxic than it is because there's parts of it that I'm leaving out right I'm actually nowadays a more casual player than I used to be and the main thing the number one thing is that if you are honest about what you are

here to do almost almost almost always no one will ever get mad right if you go into a practice party and somebody goes hey man I'm really new at this I'm not used to this kind of thing I might be a little you know I might

get stressed out everyone's totally cool everyone's gonna be like okay and my experience has been people have been extremely helpful and extremely kind overall it's when people come into the room that says have to have cleared it know what you're

doing don't waste our time and people go in and they don't know what they're doing and they do waste people's time that's when the toxic comes out make sense the dishonesty it is nobody nobody gets mad

at like I'll load into an ex roulette which is like a daily and the healer will be like fucking terrible like just oh my god like this is the worst and I'll start to get salty and then I'll look

at the dude's gear and I'll go oh this dude has like almost nothing that means he's probably there's a there's a dog on there's a and then all that salt there's a golden retriever on the mouse and keyboard yeah right all that or like or like the just like I have no idea what I'm doing yeah

you'll you'll botch a poll and it'll blow up right and then the guy goes oh dude sorry I'm not used to healing this and it's like why would you be mad at that guy right and you go hey dude that's not no problem we'll just do it you know and then you'll maybe give him like

some friendly advice or be like oh I'll I'll do this or I'll go slower or whatever but that's quite rare actually what usually happens is people botch it and then they blame you because they're assholes okay so so yeah

the worst most of the toxicity in my in my experience does not come from the people at the top saying get the fuck out if you suck most of the toxicity in in a game like ff14 comes from people at the bottom saying so what if I suck it's your responsibility

right yeah yeah so then that make that make sense that's why you don't pay my sub is such a popular thing to say and that's all fair that that is warranted that warrants the behavior and it's why healers become such assholes because people will just

standard bullshit and die and then start all caps yelling at the healer going why didn't you heal me and it's like because you just instantly died from full health to zero because you stood in bullshit because you're moron right yeah it's like

you do that up to level cap yeah you're gonna be you're gonna be fucking grumpy it's also nice when you have a button in games that says I don't want to play with this person if I can avoid it thank you oh yeah it's great so dude you know what you know what the shit is

in 14 healers have an ability called rescue which was put into the game to drag players out of shit that the healer is paying attention to that the player is not so

hey is the DPS gonna stand in something and die you can literally pull them okay out of their control to safety but you know what's better than that you know what's way better than that

the DPS keeps standing in shit and being an asshole and telling you you suck so instead of pulling him to safety why not pull him off the stage to his death are you serious oh yeah my person who heals when my buddies

and I play creepy porpoise if I'm being like too much of a dick or like just like talking too much or like being a dick she'll pull me right off the edge right off and she'll jump near the edge

and then hit it and then jump back over and I'll fly off because I was moving in a direction it's so it is so popular that in Shadowbringers there is a battle in which a healer on your team uses it in a story cut scene to knock somebody off a cliff

that's pretty funny it is canon that's confirmed orionje knows how to use rescue to kill people it's the best dude alright last one here real quick so we get out oh wait hold on

I like this one first I like this Derpimmy and Waymy here's your baby you want a baby grade explanation of why rollback is so good here you go I was watching a video online and my internet crapped out and I got a buffering message

that says uh kinda regards from astralblaze there you go it's true I didn't quite realize that it's like yo remember when buffering was a problem in videos that problem went away

because everyone introduced and got to the standard that we're at now and this is what would happen if everyone went rollback you know it would eventually just go away and no one would even know what the problem is

if we could just replace the tech um good good one oh before we leave you wanted a tighter fucking episode today

and you're responsible for it's like you're 100% responsible so don't fucking put it on me okay so I talked about how rescue using it to kill people was very hilarious close second is an ability called shirk

and it doesn't work this way anymore but you used to be it's a button that you're supposed to use it to give aggro from yourself to the other tank when you swap but what you could do is you used to be able to do it to anyone and if there was a dps

that was doing too much aggro because they weren't using their abilities properly you would be able to shirk onto them and then the boss would pull off of you and turn and kill them damn so whenever somebody was being an asshole and not using their abilities correctly

you could just kill them there was a button to make them die that's pretty good oh and it was the they changed it so it doesn't work like that anymore because um it was too much fun but

hahaha um here max says light side later wools and constantly choking pat what is the first time you can remember being astonished by the graphics you're seeing looking as good as they did for me it was final fantasy 10

hope you're doing as well as you can be i mgs2 pardon mgs2 for you for me it was the first screen shot of

tech n tag tournament for the ps2 it was a picture of jinn and it looked like the character from the intro cutscene and i remember seeing a screen shot and being like that looks amazing

that's the new intro and it said this is in game and i'm like what the fuck what it was the smoothest nicest thing and it was it was a screen shot of jinn yeah and you know there was definitely uh there was a you zoom in and you catch those

jaggies back in the day of the ps2 just jaggies you know for sure but uh it was such an impressive uh step up in model quality ttt uh was the first like hit i can think of because i was always impressed we were always

impressed by like pre-rendered you know fmv's that was always what it was and that's gone now yes but uh totally don't have to worry about those um but the the the in game stuff was always like the

fucking you know like alright well yeah this is what the ff7 commercial was and this is what the in game looks like you know but um that was that was a huge one that was a huge one apologies the

the my son is a little upset today yes he's he's likely jealous that i'm paying too much attention to you well that's fine we're just about to get out of here um folks make no mistake

i'm quite aware that king of fighters and the wwe are crossing over with each other but until i see the new day using orochi powers or rand yorton doing an orochi daggy

i ain't got nothing to say about it pretty much yeah yeah they're crossing over much when the content drops we can start talking there's nothing to say right now it's too it's two logos sitting next to each other oh my god

i'm so happy i'm so happy i talked about that toxic f14 shit because somebody just linked me to a reddit about like assholes in duty finder in 14 cool i will say that

the empress of tomorrow would be a fantastic fighting game character yes absolutely and she should design herself she should be on the fucking staff behind the artists and battle planners creating her moveset

it would be amazing but uh yes beyond that we are good we are done and we are out you you

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