Castle Super Beast - CSB 070: That's Rough, Buddy
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I'm coming in hot
How hot are you coming in? I'm coming in hot
like
From
November
I've been waiting
to say this
And I can now say it I have finished watching
Avatar the last airbender and it's fucking amazing
You've been on that since November. I've been watching it
with punch mom
for a couple months now and
We've been watching it together. So, you know, it's not quite
It's a little bit of a reduced pace, but nonetheless, we finally got there and I finally finished it
Funny enough that it's back in the news because I guess it's on American Netflix or something. I'm not too sure what happened
Yeah, basically it popped back up on Netflix and so people like whoa was this so that was weird already because I was concerned
because
back in
Around New Year's there was an out an announcement saying it's gonna be leaving Canadian Netflix or something like that
And I'm not too sure what the deal was, but it didn't end up leaving
so
Either way, it was like, you know perfect for us and went through that shit
fucking
Incredible children's show
Super well done. I thought you had already seen it
Like ages ago
We see the last airbender together. No, no, no
That was a fever dream
I saw nothing of it. My only experience prior to this was I saw the first two episodes or so
And I thought it was all right
And then I just didn't finish it like years and years and years and years ago when it when you know when it was
getting pushed
It was the hotness when it was the hotness and then
Yeah, basically for you know, the last X amount of years. It's been something that's been a recommend for a while and
and
You know, I
Yeah decided to
You know pop the pop the lid on that a couple months ago and fucking
Incredible super solid and one obviously now I get it but two
This is gonna be another example another thing I
Put up there where I say like hey man
Beginning middle end nice tight story three seasons. They fucking did it. I had a really great. Yeah
Especially that last season that third season
really really
Steps up the quality of like writing and like the I guess the decision to kind of like play these characters a little bit more
In depth is is incredibly noticeable in a reboot in a reboot like way, you know, it's it's fantastic
I don't think
There's a single series I could think of
In which you tell people there's no time skip
and then you show them like a
Photo of what the characters look like in your third series
They go bullshit. There's no time skip. Yeah. Oh, yeah, like the the the promo art for season three
Has them in like the Fire Nation gear and Katara's hair is different and Sokka's got like a bunch of gear
I got the wolf helmet on
Yeah, I mean to be honest like
all of that is
like
Obviously, you know main character plus time is like I've talked about that as like a thing
I really like so seeing Ang running around with hair and all that shit is a really interesting
but fuck all that noise and
Hey late to the party. I know so by all means
You know
Let me let me enjoy as I talk about
The best character to me being or the best relationship
I'm a fuck the characters because you can get into that that that's petty. That's not that's nonsense the best relationship in this show being
between
fucking Eero and
Zuko and like that
That entire dynamic being the most interesting thing to follow
Across the entire story and like his hair
Represents like his mentality almost as you fucking go through it. I row. Is it I row?
It's higher hair is a form of literal personal growth
So I row and Zuko throughout this whole thing are like every time the camera cuts back to the main kids
You're like, that's cool. But what the fuck are the others up to please? I want to go back to that tea shop
I want to go hang out that they blow a whole season almost like
1213 episodes on your main antagonist quit and he's just running a store. It's so solid man and
You know and you want to just go through every
Every like conversation that we have about like, you know every not every nauseating time that someone is like all these
Fucking conversations about redemption and the idea of just being you know
Like no no one can ever be forgiven for their transgressions and all that shit. And you know, that's how you do it
Here's a fantastic like showing of like do it real slow real slow
real
Painful crawl, you know, you have mistakes get made in that redemptive process. Oh, yeah
Oh, yeah
Like that's the thing so obviously just as I as I'm coming out hot out of the gates
I'm gonna, you know be spoiling anything you just in case anybody has
Been like me and has not watched it and is through this conversation perhaps deciding to I'm gonna start spoiling things to talk about it
So just putting that out there. You know, so it's important for your redemptive character
There's not a single moment that Zuko holds up a flamethrower to a child
You know, there's no like
I'll kill your babies. I'll kill your babies, manato
Uh, rain is up in the
In the the the in-between have in place just like oh fucking christ what i'm i'm waiting for this idiot
um
Yeah
No, like I really like there's a lot of fun things to say, you know, obviously there's just like
You know, it's a fun kids show. It's very bright. It's very colorful and it's very hokey
um
It turns to the kids show into a teen show. Yes
Exactly and it and it and it it
Ages up as like I guess the audience ages up in a way and by the time you get to the third season
They're really like again. They're spending their time doing
things that are um
A little more subtle than like the outright
Cut and dry moments of the early seasons, you know, but there's and there's obviously lots of fun anime references in there like
um
What what the what the fuck is uh
that kid's name, um
Rocky I think it is like the with the with the samurai strand in his mouth and
um, you mean jet jet, excuse me jet jet and jet in the crew jet
In the crew great are a fantastic like, you know, uh
Send up in a lot of ways and there's some really just great moments where uh, in particular in particular like, um
But even before the third season
When you go to when you fall when they when they get to bossing say, uh
I
Had like there's there's like three really awesome things that I mean one
um when
When you just you get to follow Zuko on a date trying to be normal
And you're like why why would he be capable of nor being normal? He is like fucked up child
That episode is so perfect because it it it is plot insensitive. It doesn't matter
But it's not character insensitive
and you get to see
particularly
Your redemptive character and your actual villain
And like, okay, let's assume
There's no war. There's no avatar. There's no problem
Would these people be able to function?
No
Hell no. Oh my god. It's super super dysfunctional kid. Um
and
Then you get your uh after that you get the the
um, I think it's called uh
The just tales of bossing say or something like that
um
Yeah, tales of bossing say where they where they just follow each short story
Of for the different characters of what they're up to and you're like, oh, this is a fantastic little thing where you're like
Hey, what are they up to in
This month or whatever that we've got to fucking kill
And then you just follow iroh around and you're like, oh my god, this dude rules
This is a fucking amazing character. What a good episode, you know
And then you you you come you get out of that and you're like this is
This is this show is something. There's something incredible going on here, right?
And it does the thing that I it does a thing that i'm a huge fan of and i've talked about it where like
You allow someone who is going through that dysfunction we just referred to
And you let it carry out
So they go underground the heroes are are trying to
Find oppa and they're on the way they find out about the the secret
Underwater base, you know all sorts of shit all sorts of shit
But then zuko is like ghosts but pretty close
Yeah, and then zuko is like i'm turning down this normal life this peaceful existence to go
Fucking follow my demons, right?
And he does
And then like as he gets to the end goal the end point
Uncle's like, okay, dude, so you're here now
Now what?
What the fuck you gonna do? What the fuck are you gonna do now? And it's a such a solid like
You're gonna steal this buffalo
Why it's so fucking great. Where are you gonna put it? What is your plan?
What is your plan? It's such a great like but i have to follow through on your on your what you know
I fucking love those moments because it's just
Like reality fucking
Cold bucket over the head of like what now idiot what now think it through and it's and it's it's something that like
You kind of go. Oh fuck. Okay
Like yeah, this dude has to face reality and he does
And he does and then you're like, okay, we're going somewhere, right?
And he kind of becomes this weird version of himself that is like i'm so happy to be working in this tea house
and i'm really happy to
Be living with you uncle and you know like yeah, we're gonna do it, you know
And he's he's being super weird for like a couple of episodes literally smiles for like a smile
Yeah, and you're like this is uncomfortable. This is not normal. This is fucking weird, right?
And i'm like, okay, but i'm like, maybe they're just doing this but like, you know, they don't know what to
Do but i'm like, no, no, they know that you don't you know, whatever they know what they're doing here
And then you get to the fucking finale of it where you know
Him and katara have a moment inside the fucking
uh crystal cave and
She actually is sympathetic to him and you're like, okay, this is how we set up the fire teacher. All right
And then again gets offered the ability to like reclaim that nothing
That is his honor and whatnot and then chokes and trips again
After going through the what what you thought was the the arc
That was like this show is fucking incredible. The fact that he fucked up. They're really good
So one of one of the more infuriating things is that you get to this part in a lot of the shows lost stories where
The villain wants to turn over new leaf. Yeah, former villain wants to turn over new leaf. Yeah, and the
The hero team goes dude. Go fuck yourself. We don't trust you
right and
That always falls flat if talking about the first time the villain has not done something like horrible
Right and evil
So that's a problem here. So what they do
Is they have that go through and fail once already
So yeah, fuck you. No one. No one has a reason to listen to hi. I'm zuko. You're right. So so so
That failure dude, it's so fucking great too because like
Again, you're talking about the crawl back to to redemption, you know
And you were already like you're rooting for this kid
You're trying to see him, you know get what he can to fucking help his damaged life
and and then it fails
and then you kind of go into like
Well, shit, dude, that's disappointing, right?
But like where do you go from here?
And then you start that third season where they start paying that extra attention to detail
And you're like, why did this fail? And like the reason why it failed is because the idealized situation that ideal dream he was chasing
You can't just talk someone out of that
I mean you can but they're never really going to stop thinking about it, right? You have to sit there
At the fucking like at the the the side of the emperor at the fire lords
You have to go through the hollowness of winning what you wanted
And feeling it be nothing to then go. Oh, this oh this actually sucks
Right, so so like scar didn't heal. Yeah
No, the hollow the hollow dream being like accomplished
Is really was what it's going to sink in, you know and like during that entire time
The the fucking smug aura of I told you so coming from the prison
Where uh iroh's just locked up
Just sitting there like I got nothing to say to you. I got nothing to say to you. I got nothing
You know already. I've taught you everything. We've been through this. You know exactly what I would say the lessons have been learned
We did we did this last season. I have nothing to say to you and I'm like
Ah, it's so solid and in the meantime, I'm a buff up and I'm gonna break the fuck out of here when the time comes
But so be it, you know, um
What a fucking arc
You know so that it was it finally comes back around and like you said like there is no reason to give someone that the time of day and
Especially when other people are started on the crew are start going like okay
Well, maybe you're all right
But obviously katara is not because she was the one that fell for it the first time, right?
She saw it firsthand and she was convinced by it
and it's a really interesting thing where
um
There are people who you cannot trust because I am evil moa ha ha and i'm going to pretend to be good to manipulate the situation
Right, we literally have that character one one frame over from zuko. Yes
Raw evil. Yes
um
And but then right what you have is not just I can't trust you because you're on the bad guys and you're bad
but
I can't trust you because you can't trust yourself
Like yeah, you're flip-flopper when you say hey, I've learned from my my ways and I've I want to do the right thing now
I believe you that you believe yourself
But you don't know how you might react in the moment when suddenly your impulses are presented with something new
You know you'll fuck up
So it is a really interesting thing. I'm like you don't see that too often
You don't too often see the kind of person where it's like, you know, you genuinely
Uh are full of conviction for this moment
But you will genuinely lose that conviction when you flip-flop over the other way. So
Yeah, like that is a hard-earned but very very
thorough depiction of a character
redeeming themselves and if it is
The most anti sasuke bullshit. I have ever seen and holy
The timing on this is pretty ideal
It I was I was watching both of these actually sasuke
Done well, I was watching his story at the same time that I was going through
Um the end of neruto like that's the thing
I I was following along that final arc of Naruto, but I wasn't and I didn't want to talk about avatar until I was done
You know because I know everyone understands you guys you can't control yourself. So didn't want to hit anything
I didn't want to hit
But now that I'm done I can say I was watching both of these at the exact same time, dude
And it's so incredible how much like one
dumps all over the other
for um
ostensibly what is like not even a farther distance
For sasuke because sasuke starts as a good guy
Then goes bad and then has to been that has to be um
prodigal sund
Back to the the flock whereas Zuko
Uh is evil from the jump
You know
So so I just took a look. Yeah, and uh sure enough
uh last airbender
Was smack dab in the middle the early middle even of uh
Naruto's run
so like sasuke and
uh
And Zuko's arcs are concurrent
For for american broadcast they didn't even have to learn from sasuke's mistakes
They just like knew right away like oh, don't don't do that. You mean for american broadcast
No, I'm looking at the manga run of uh of naruto 1999 to 2014
And uh avatar came out in 2005. Okay
So there was there was uh, yeah, yeah, absolutely concurrent. It's the fucking real right around the time
The itachi was holding sasuke up by his neck Zuko was being done with his arc
Um, you know so so you got that right you have
Of course
It's not just that but it's also we also have to attribute some of the
quality here
to brevity
Right some of the quality here to the fact that this is
three seasons of 20 to 21 episodes
and
like
That is the story
You know the first one the first season sets it up
You've got the kids and you've got Zuko and and iroh chasing them
Then zula comes in with the sis with the girls and then the world gets expanded and we see about we learn about the earth kingdom
And then and toff shows up obviously
And then you get the fucking fire nation for the last chapter and you're like, okay. Yeah, that's your story, you know
It doesn't have to have these like
Uh false moments or like there's a fucking google results showing you that like naruto is like a 41 filler, you know
Um
So so you you don't have to have these moments of like
extension into
Nothing right and when whenever when you follow a Zuko scene
It's probably because it needs to be there. There's something to gain from this, you know, absolutely
So, uh, yeah, and then you know and and that's and that's all this is just that's just you know him and then and then how fucking solid
That is as a character
Obviously toff is fucking badass. Obviously. There's like hold on before before I go before we move off the Zuko
I just want to say one thing that the easiest way to sum that up is that it is a long
Long way and it is a hard fought narrative battle
from
I'ma get the avatar
Fuck you. I'll kill you
to
That's rough, buddy
Yeah, when he's when he's talking to soca
Hey, bro, bro. Sorry your girlfriend turned into a moon, bro. Oh, that's rough, bro. Oh, jeez
Oh, oh, yeah, that's what happened
Sorry your girl ditched you to become a celestial body
Oh
That's goofy. She ran away to the fucking milky way, bro
But off the top
Her first appearance is beating up dwayne johnson
And then um
You're like, okay, so what's what's your deal? And it's like, oh like you're the personality that was missing
from the group here
And the piece of shit
The selfish one
You know who's self
The selfish one but is is obviously like, you know like self supported
And they within like two episodes of her joining the group are so it's like almost super quickly
They have the whole like, hey, can't you help us bundle like some firewood?
Can't you help us do some shit? And she's like, no, I won't I won't take your stuff
I won't get in the way. I'll do my own thing and I'll be fine. You do your thing and you'll be fine
You know, um
And it's off is my favorite example of
Something that I feel like you rarely see
which is
You put a handicap character in your show, right?
now
The show is not only
like
Laughably unafraid to point out that the character is handicapped
But you have that person
Be like a constant asshole about it
To other people. Yeah, and people will get so pissed off
That they'll fire back with shit
Making fun of the fact that the bitch is one. Yeah. Yeah, like everyone
I think everyone like the show will have those these like land before time moments of wow
Look at that and she'll just look at them and be like, come on
But you know the ultimate the ultimate is they're flying through the desert
Looking for some bullshit. Yeah
And she'll yell out. Hey, look I could it's over there
And they'll go really and she'll like turn and have the biggest grin and just wave her hand in front of her fucking eyes
Like no dumb shit. Yeah, I'm blind idiots. Exactly. Exactly. Are you stupid? Yeah, it's it's fine. It's fine. It's great
It's great. She's played she's played wonderfully
Um, and then you know and then all you got to do there is go like, oh, she's a badass. How badass is she?
Well, she invented metal bending. Okay. She's the greatest there ever was. She's the fucking best
Oh, okay, cool in many in many ways way way more impressive than your main character. Yeah, she's coating herself in metal armor
She's rolling into walls and and peeling it off to create armor. Cool. Got it understood
um
So, yeah, that that that goes without saying, you know, and then um, there's definitely like there's that years
There's a definitely a couple moments of like, well
I'm sure I'm sure
Uh, uh
We could have taken a little bit more time to show sacca becoming
Uh, a sword master instead of over the course of one episode one week
You know, like it's what happens when your comic relief character gets to the third season and somebody goes. Oh Jesus
He's got to be able to actually do something he becomes a master swordsman in one hangout with a cool, dude
You know, but uh and an amazing sword is given to him
but
All things go all things considered. Um
Ang is you know, you're watching him follow through as well
And and go through the the the journey and he gets his oh, he's gonna master the avatar state. Nah, you fucked up kid
I'm like, oh shit. Okay. Cool. Cool. That's cool. You know, they never stopped being like fucking kids
um
and
The stakes obviously get higher and then you get you get these little moments of uh
You know, like who is this?
Combustion man that shows up and why is he like
A villain from a different show
Like why are you like like uh, why is why is a teen titans villain fighting the gang or like a gung-ho gun?
You know, like yeah, you look like someone that should get murdered in ninja scroll
You why are you why are you here?
Blowing these children up
He's even got like a different style of shading on his like muscles and his neck, you know and and uh, yeah
It's like well fuck. That's the stakes. That's the stakes. We're at now. You know, so
um fucking fantastic, man fucking great
um
Really really, you know, like I said, I I can't say enough good things about like just the
the way that third season
Uh depicts the characters and and what it shows you about their personalities and you know helps helps the whole thing kind of come together
um as zula
As well as just like, you know shitty evil villainous. She's doing the shitty evil thing
And you're kind of at at some point you're kind of like why are you so and you're just like well
Some kids are just fucked man
You know some kids are just some kids are just fucked and like even the crew that's rolling with her
It's like you kind of for a second. They're like, oh, yeah, they're the rolling evil. They're the anti hero group doing their own thing
It's like no, they're not
They're childhood friends with the one that's just fucked and she's forcing them
To do all this bullshit from day one and they never they didn't hide that from you
They came along out of being forced to come along
So then they're like, yeah, so when it eventually goes sour, it's like, of course. It went sour
Duh
I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did the person who goes who was fucked become really really fucked. Yes
um
So that was interesting too. I was wondering I was like, how are you going to show
Like in the same in the same place where you can show that somebody who goes through their flaws and is forced to confront all of this
um
It's interesting to go like how do you represent the other side of things where you have like a character like azula who's just like
I don't give a fuck
Right, and it's like no she does give a fuck, but she has no
um
Foundation like iro to like ground her so when she gets beaten
She's just flailing
and and
Breaking apart and you're like breathing fire and you're like yep. That's that's pretty much how that goes down, right?
um
You know and obviously you get your like
your your uh
What's your mccall you get your your zuko like he's like man
How am I even going to face the uncle moment in the the big old cry hug?
You know and all that that's like super well deserved
um
and
What was what I thought was pretty interesting too was like the fire lord represents almost like a he's also a cartoonish
Non-villain villain like a cartoonist entity. I should say where it's like you just sit there and be evil
um, but
like
You know they go into enough backstory about like the relationship between
um
The the previous fire lord and the previous avatar and all that stuff that you can kind of see how the gears for world
conquering came into play
and uh by the time he gets all powered up and just becomes a
Like scorcher of nature and it seems it seems he comes a cannon
It seems like my goal is to burn the deer and chipmunks
You know as the as the zeppelins fucking skate over ground and uh, you get that last fight
It was I thought it was pretty smart that they um, they intercut
uh
avatar versus
him with this the loud explosive like
Uh, uh rock battle in in the dragon ball canyon
That they that they're fighting in and then when you cut over to the the agni kai that like zuko and azula are having
You it's also a big fiery battle, but to distinguish. It's also very pretty and coordinated. It's very pretty and coordinated
It's not as explosive and the music takes over and the sound effects drop out
So they're you're cutting between two similar two fights that would be similar
But they're playing them as visually different as they can and also bringing in the blue fire and all that stuff happens
You know, uh, you get those things like the lightning and all these little bits and pieces that come back and it's like damn
Okay, this is pretty good
um, not gonna lie the
Lion turtle came the fuck out of nowhere
But it is in flavoring with some of the like
You know mysticism of the show in the form of we sure is the dragons and the um
The face seals the face stealer and all that other shit
But boy did it just shows up and is like hey, man
Hey, man, you want to solve this problem? My gosh maguff maguff
You know like level three maguffin pokemon shows up and just uh
Touches you and now you got it now. You got the thing
You did it
Last ever airbender did something for me that kind of ruined many many many other shows
I hate clip shows. Mm-hmm
I hate the clip episodes. They're always terrible
and
up until avatar the last airbender
I had
called clip and recap episodes the same thing
Because they are
Except for this one
I always remember the name of the episode. It's called ember island prayers. Mm-hmm
And it's where the writers decide to catch you up
And like poke fun at their own bullshit for a little while
By putting on the shittiest play of the three seasons ever. Yes
I got huge. Oh, it's players. Oh, wow. I have a great memory. Wow. Yes. I got
Yeah, so that was funny because it becomes very clear like
About a minute into that play that you're like
This play has details that nobody could possibly have. This is for the viewer. This is not for the characters. Yeah
so
It really brings it up hard when you get to a point where
Characters are looking at each other that were involved in the real situation. Yeah talking about the play going
Did they die?
What it was very unclear
And you're like, oh the the the writers realized that
No one can tell if that character died and they just left it alone. Yeah
Uh, it also had big vibes of and everything was alpha numeric
Oh, absolutely. Ta-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da, you know, like the straight-up reboot musical we got
Uh at the end of uh
That season was like I'm like, oh man. I'm getting I'm getting a flashback here. You know, um
Yeah, no, that that that was really fun
Uh two
I appreciated that when
You know, it came down to it like the kind of like the final conflict that like ang is going through
Is one that's very
On point because it's like you were raised as a monk. So you got to do what monks do
But and then everybody else on the play
Quit being a pussy
Out of the villain, please
save the lives
Of everybody and murder this fool
Without hesitation like everyone the whole like the party the whole party's like, bro
You got I understand you got to do you but please kill this man
And then he's like, I don't want to right because they're not wrong
He they're not wrong at all. They're not wrong at all
He's always going to be a problem. You you just have to you have to cut him and then he's like
You know and he sweats it and then he goes and he winds up on fucking turtle island
And on and like in there. He's like, okay. No wait. Hold on. There's got to be another way
And you turn back to all the previous avatars who are like
Bro, you got to kill him
You got to you got to fucking do a rough wisdom of the infinite. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
Including the direct predecessor is a guy who knew him as a kid
um
Huge like also I I like that's not right. I know no, but I like the fact I like the fact that um
Uh, I like the fact that they like hey, we got Jen Hale back for one episode because she's got to give ang some advice
Uh, what else can we do with that? Oh remember that girl that rides the mole? Yeah, okay now you get to be both characters
So she plays two characters in the show and they just go like well fuck we got Jen Hale
We're not gonna not use Jen Hale's characters and they use them both
um
But yeah, they both come out, you know
Rather like all the fucking previous masters come out and then they're like by the way
We didn't show you before but let's show you what the rest of the cycle looked like so it's like oh
Here's the previous uh waterbender, you know from the water tribe and here that was the avatar
And here's the and then you and you're like oh, okay. Here's the full cycle of avatars
What do you guys got to say kill this motherfucker?
Shoot him dead you get like I think if the water guy is like surfing. Yeah, super chill. Yeah
And he's like kill
It's like hey, man, you got to do what you got to do
You know literally literally the uh the earth one is like, um
He's like wait, but hold on but the guy that was the leader of the evil
Forces that were fighting you fell off the cliff right like
Um, you didn't kill him. He did refuse to move out of the way and just like yeah same thing
Right whether or not I killed him or whether or not his stubbornness
Let to his demise when he stupidly stood on that cliff side doesn't change the fact that
he went
I did it. It was my thing the other the people are pointing out that like you have ang's direct predecessor being an air avatar
Brought up under the same no kill philosophy fire going sometimes you got to break the rules sometimes
Sometimes you got to kill guys. Um fire, you know, it's uh, uh unfortunate reality of the world
No, um, um, it was really like
Straight up just like they this is the infinite wisdom right now and you know to and at the same time
It's like that's the same infinite wisdom that you know was hanging out with the um
uh in
In the space abyss of like the giant floating avatar ang that's hanging out there and it looks like sinister as fuck
And it's like you that's that's the power you're gonna need to fucking kill this guy
You're gonna need that. So, you know, it's right there. You're one step away
but
Yeah, and it's and it's it's it's funny too because like in the same way that like saca learns
Um, fucking sword mastery in like one episode
Uh ang sits and goes through all the chakras in one episode and i'm like boy
This would have been all of them, huh? Yeah. I'm like, listen
I don't want this to be milked into a filler season. That's stupid, but
One episode
Not even a two-parter
And then he and then and it's kind of almost like face your fears face what you hate confront the emotions
You know, and it's like deal with it. Move on. Yeah, and you know what?
I mean, if you want to believe if you want to like right if you want to find reasons to to believe it
Then you can say that like, you know as a monk. He was pretty well trained to confront the spiritual realm
um, just not the
You know the actual interpersonal conflicts that he has with his his friendships, you know, hey, man
I'm gonna tell you right now
The reason why ang or ang whichever i've always fucking fucking up
Is able to deal with that stuff so quickly in the course of one episode
Instead of learning all the bendings taking three seasons
Is because he was brought up to know about the spiritual and interpersonal realm
That is dead on that's what I said
Yeah, that is a hundred percent. Yeah, and that becomes very confirmed. Yeah
If you if you decide to move onwards exactly
So the reason why I bring this up is because I was met with the contrast because I started kora
You started kora who is the complete opposite character? Yes, I had I so I needed to at least start kora
So that I could touch base even though I play I played, you know, I was there for the lp way back when
Oh, yeah, but that's like I had nothing to connect. I had nothing to connect it to you, right?
So I started kora so that I could connect the pieces
So that I connect the pieces of like where the future goes
And like what comes up from the future timeline because I'm like
Being lost in like a void of like and then there's a future, but I don't know any part of it is like
I'm like, let me let me at least get into that
Let me start it out so that I can go. All right
This event this place exists these people exist and this is the premise, you know
Um, yeah where it goes is on has a kid who turns into jk simmons and that's fucking awesome
Um, yeah
So also, um, I was told about there's a comic that apparently connects the two
There's a there's a there's a bridge that that can be read. So that sounds interesting
Okay, so um, so here's the part where
Um, yeah fucking avatars incredible loved it loved it loved it great
Um, gonna be like I said in the same way that I talk about the brevity of and the sweetness of gravity falls
And like picking your ending, you know, I'm gonna talk about this too. So
Now, um started Cora. I'm about four episodes in exactly. Uh
and
This is one of those ones where I'm like, okay, I
I almost want I was wondering if I should wait till I was done with that too
And I kind of was like, ah, it's been so long. I've waited so many months to even talk about this
Let me just bring it up now and Cora's popping up now because people it's coming back. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. The time is hot
I know exactly it is hot and so I brought this up at a specific time, you know
And I kind of I'm not sure maybe it would have been better to wait until I was done with both so that I could
Uh, just introduce it clean
unaffected, you know, in any way, but the
level of
Negativity everyone is displaying over that show right now. You don't even have to even talk about how you're watching it
You're getting it. I'm getting it anyway. Right people are
And I'm like, I'm not there yet
so far
I'm really interested in how they've set up this world
I like the fact that they've aged it up again
In a way, it feels as if they continued the trend of like watching them back watching the final episode and then like an hour later
Cora back to back is such an interesting thing because
Um
It's especially fun because I showed punch mom the trailer because she didn't know Cora existed
So I played it and she's like, wait, is this some weird show that ripped off avatar
And then she's like, huh, wait. No, did avatar rip this show off?
What are we looking at and then at the end it says Cora and you see the statue and it's like, oh fuck
Okay, that's super cool. So it was really nice to have that exist that that that that that was a fun like jump in reveal it
You know because she didn't even know it existed. So um, but jumping into it now, um
Yeah, like I don't know. I'm I'm nowhere near. I'm not at the point where everyone is at to see
What all this negativity is and I'm you know, and I wish I could just
Cut it all out and just watch it and make my own opinions
But based on the first four episodes, they're doing a fucking great job of like setting up the um
The future of this world a nice timeline
Skip later where it's not just like these kids are adults. It's that they're actually like fucking old people now
And they've aged out
Right and yeah, you have a couple returning characters
And and well one returning and some almost returning and they're like ancient and and you don't have you can't have like a big old bitter
Ang adult so you got to have his kid who's a fucking joy kill
um
And you're getting it's the best. Yeah, it's the fucking best
And so you're getting this really you're getting this really interesting like thing where like again like it's paying attention to the subtlety of
I guess I have what I feel like
is
Came came in in season three
um
The the characters are clearly later teenagers. They're not fucking
You know 11 12 and 13
um
And you know it's taking place in a city
So like literally the colors are a bit darker things are things are aged up
Things are the conflict is aged up the complexities of what what they're going through is aged up. So um
Yeah, I mean if this is the Boruto
of the of the of the avatar world like you know, uh, I remember when it was going on and I remember uh, uh
Catching words and hearing and hearing things about it, but so far. I think it's fucking cool, man
So far I'm really also impressed by how much the animation quality has jumped up
Like it's super fun to watch that same intro take place with a much higher budget
uh, uh, uh, you know
series of katas
taking place
And I'm just gonna I'm just gonna go through it
So I would like to talk about it to you a little bit in non specific terms
uh
To possibly explain some because there is a wash of negativity. It is it is and and I and
You know, what a what like I just I what am I glad I can't say anything, you know
Yeah, so flat out just just eat no matter how much you like Korra or whatever
It's just not as good as airbender
Depending on your personal distaste with the issues that it does have and I mean airbender is not perfect either
but
It's it's either
Just quite not as good or terrible. Mm-hmm, right depending on how much certain things bother you
um
avatar the last airbender
was
Like always on the verge of being canceled and then they finished on season three
And then there was supposed to be a last airbender two
And then there was supposed to be like a movie and those didn't happen, but that's okay interesting
Because they finished it interesting. I didn't know that
Korra
Had an issue in which
They were told by their studio or sorry by their publisher by the tv network
You're gonna get one season
To do it in one
So they did it in one and then it was popular
So
They went okay, you can have another
But you're definitely not gonna have a third one
We're super canceling this after the second one
And then they're like, okay fine. You can get a third. Okay. Yeah, okay, and then they did the same thing with the third one
And so every season
Has to build itself up like it is the last season
Okay, and
Plots can't last. Yeah, okay, okay
They look so you have problems where characters start up plots
And then they finish
And then the next season exists
And that character has to have something to do. Okay
So that plot will either start back up
And with a little bit of growth or whatever or they'll be given a b-plot. Okay to
Hold them. Yeah. I I the characters get
Benched. Yeah
Like they actually get literally actually benched
And then they're like fuck. We have another season and we benched them last season
Fuck um
Uh
Okay, now they're important again, but you're like weren't they a dumb ass last season? Yes
And the there's no consistent through line. There is a lot of really
Great stuff in Korra
that is
very very
Very obviously held back by the studio and the the final season the fourth season probably has the most problems
in which
There is one big plot line that the the execs are like you're not allowed to do that
You can't do it you fuck you
And then they they're like you can you can allude to it in the final episode and leave it vague
Okay, then I know what you're talking about because it's the biggest exploding new story out of the show
wouldn't and yeah, and then
the final season they're like, okay
You can only okay. You know how we told you you're gonna do like 14 episodes
And you wrote 14 episodes. You can only get like 12 now
And we're only giving you the money for 11. Okay, so what you're saying is that it's it ends up being marred by production issues
constant
It's very clear. Okay
Okay, and the original
Uh, did not have these but it was on the verge of being canceled and then managed to come back each time
So the the problem the biggest problem they have is like, hey avatar the last airbender
You were we were just talking about how great zuko was
Zuko is the primary villain for like 80 of that show
And then you get the the fire lord as the the bigger version in azula, right?
I'd give him less than 80 percent because really azula comes in in season two and ends up being a persistent. Um
All right, let's say zuko's redemption starts
pretty early on
All things considered the fire gang. Yeah, right or are your problem
Because they thought every season was going to be the last season
They every see every season has a new villain cycle. Right. Right. Right. Okay. Okay. And the first one is
The best one. Okay by far. Okay. I don't I don't you
You keep going like why didn't you just have that go forward? Okay?
I don't want to get too much of a breakdown of structure here. Just okay, but you understand. I I get it. I get it. Yeah
um
I also like
You know, I I I
I brought I brought it up at this point in time as opposed to at the end of that
Specifically knowing that like, you know, this was gonna sort of be a part of it. So
um, all I will say is like, you know
Uh, I mean, it's gonna go through it. Let me get through it. I like
Obviously the best way I the I experienced avatar the best way I could have which is
With everyone fucking gone
Enjoying it on my own, you know
With punch mom and just no no opinions whatsoever
and uh
In this case, I would I would like that to be the same. So, you know, um
I'm probably not going to talk at all about Korra until I'm finished it
Um, you don't need to check in and see where I'm at
You don't need to like just I'm gonna get there and when I'm there, I'll talk about it
But I like doing it on my own pace in a vacuum and and not having to you know, because already like
You know, it's like I it basically you trying to not flavor yourself too much by by anything
And I like judging things on on on my own. Um
So like this is one of those bits where like in my head right now
The first four episodes were fucking fantastic and all and all I'm hearing is about what to expect with this
So I'm lower. Uh, you can't help but lower expectations in a way. You know, um, but like
So far like what they've
Set up with this new world is like all the fun things about a time skip are here. You know and um
Uh
There are there's a lot of fun little time skip stuff. Yeah. Yeah, I enjoy that
I really enjoy that and you know what everyone enjoys that
I ended up your your four episodes in so you would have seen that like oh, yeah metal bending is now
Yes, the police are now using 3d maneuver gear to
Uh, fucking spider-man spider-man around the city and deal with criminals a hundred percent, you know
Um, that's great. That's cool. I've established some fucking crazy ass awesome fucking thing
She'd let that people can do now cool ass statue of of ang and um and and you know, uh
and like yeah the establishment of like hey
And this I this I remember a little bit from the game
But like all that all that fucking fist of the north star pressure point shit that the um the circus girl was doing
Yeah, we all could yeah, we learned that
We learned how to do that
That's really important in a world where people some people got it and some people don't it's really important to learn how to
Okay, put that shit away now
It also takes place in a in a period of an industrial resolution in which a gun exists
The industrial revolution is very clearly in play the first cars are starting to exist
You know, uh, they're doing an old-timey flashback an old-timey recap at the beginning of every episode
You know and you're getting right into like an aged-up thing where you're like, okay. Yeah, um where we went from
You know ancient world
ancient civilizations
kind of setting into this more modern one so and it's and it and it makes sense because you're like
The time frame is like again, it's not that it's the kids
Then they grow old and then another generation gold
Gold grows old and then we're here, you know, and if you really think about it
It's like yeah, like think about where we were at two three people ago
We were pre-industrial revolution, you know, so I I I like that decision to to yeah, I mean you're dealing with super time skip
The the kids that are twinkles in their parents eyes because their parents are teenagers in the original are now in their 60s
And are fully boomered out
Yeah, I remember having a moment of like, I wonder if the air tribe is like, oh wait, no, there's like how would they
There's fine. Give it give it a minute. They gotta they gotta figure that out, you know, uh, yeah, so
Um, and then, you know, you get a little other fun things like the concept of pro bending is fun
You know, it's like you got yourself a little sport there and I remember playing that in the game too
um
Yeah, all in all all in all like so I had a big uh discussion about like story
telling and like writing and and how these things uh
Work in different shows after we finished and we ended up talking about how I'll probably go into this in in super depth at some point
but like
Something that happens in stories, uh
is
you stay
That you stay interested in
This is like i'm just
I'm pulling these terms out of my ass by the way, but it's like I call them like yes. Yes good
You when you get introduced to a story you're um
What the what happens with to the main characters in the present as as time moves forward is often
Fun and that's the adventure, but it's not as interesting as
um
The hooks that are the past
That they bring into the into the story with them
So of course we want to know about how harry's going to fight and defeat voldemort
But more importantly who the fuck are his parents and what was that about what happened to them?
That's an early hook. Nothing. They were just losers. Well, whatever. That's an early hook, right?
Snape really wanted to bang his mom. Um
And like really bad, you know, and when your show ends up running out of these things
You often have less points of interest that keep someone wanting to come back
And what'll happen sometimes is like, uh, I dropped off of steven universe kind of early, but from
I uh punched mom like kept going and finished off. Uh, and from what it sounded like
They kind of solve a lot of those hooks
early on
So you're only left with the new hooks that come up for
New season characters and new mysteries, but the baseline ones get solved
So then all you're kind of left doing is following the present conflict to the end
Which oftentimes is not enough
To really grab people and hold them on for that mystery
I fell off steven universe, uh
The beginning of season two with where'd you fall off season middle of season two, right?
Okay, because when they're trying they're like they're just literally like
Zany adventure of the week with peridot like six episodes in a row. I'm like, all right. I'm out. So there's two things
um
I just want to say I I went up and fucking took a look at what goes down in that show
And dude that show has the worst ending. Oh my god
I didn't look it up because I might go back to it at some point. Oh, it's it's the worst
It is a really clear decision of like my personal themes that I want the show to talk about
Are more important than how any of these characters would ever act. Okay
so, um
Oh, it's bad
Might go look one day
Just to know but so so uh all this to to get to like some other things where I was just gonna say that like, um
These hooks are important and when you spend them when they're covered over and they don't exist anymore
Sometimes stories will do things to if like if someone's like
Good at writing they'll find ways to kind of go actually
Um, they'll do something like for example, this hook you thought was solved turns out it was wrong information
And it's something else completely and you're like, oh shit, right?
Or if you have no way other way out if you've written yourself into a corner, you'll go
Uh time skip new hooks. What happened in the gap?
Well, we'll have to find out right you have you create new hooks because you don't have
Uh any mystery anymore to like what you're trying to figure out with these characters. Um
In fact, uh, you know the the the the less I say the better here
But I'm willing to say I don't know if you agree with me on this
But I feel like the maximum amount of time you can take
Uh teasing someone along with a hook before they just get frustrated and tap the fuck out
Is the basement
And the reason why that is the maximum is because the payoff is so good
That it ends up being fucking worth it for the cock tees the whole way through
You know, but there's a really famous one that's in movie form, but it's not like
Uh
It's not in the long running serial. It's in a film and it's like dude. I don't give a shit that it was the name of his sled
dude
Like that is okay. Okay a terrible pale. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
So so all of these little hooks need to be paid attention to and then a time skip will reset
And create new things for you to ponder on and be curious to stick around to find out what happened, you know
And uh, that's what I feel like we got here. We're going from
um
We're going from battle tendency to start as crusaders, you know
So anyway, um
I
Yeah, I just I have some preliminary like I said just early early ask horror thoughts, but more importantly
Uh, the original show, um atla
atla
Is uh, fucking great, man
fucking solid
uh, and and I and I truly have an affection for
kids shows that age up and
At the very least like
Get more sophisticated in how they handle the the the characters and the writing
I mean, I really really like that. Uh, it's an unexpected pleasant surprise every time
and it also
serves to like
prove the point
that
Just because something is for kids doesn't mean it has to be stupid
and
Anytime someone goes dude stop overthinking it. It's a kids show. It's like no
You don't have to say that. That's a silly thing to say
You can do kids no
quality on occasion you can do
something that is aimed at a younger audience that is still
Like well done and tightly and tight and well thought about you do not have to just do that hand wave thing
It bothers me so much when I see people say that because it's like you just have to go
Yeah, things are suck shit things are shitty. That's it. That's that's the genre if you aim it at kids
It has to be bad. It's got to be it's like no it doesn't and this is a wonderful wonderful example of how that
Uh, uh comes to be in gargoyles when they accidentally shot a main character. It was a horrible big deal
Our girls was fucking wild and out with their
With their and it's both like a decent good episode for all ages and it's also like hey kids
Maybe don't play with guns morons. Hey kids. Have you uh,
Are you familiar with a mid-summer night's dream? Are you familiar with shakespeaker?
Why would why the I'm a kid? I'm a child. Well, I would well
Sit tight, you know. Um, yeah, man. I really do like that. I like that a lot
Um world building is always fun. So all the appeal of like
Seeing what it's like to be a kid in the fire nation country as opposed to being raised in
Uh creepy-ass bossing say
Which is different from being raised in the earth nation outside of bossing say
You know and and and so on and so forth it it really does have
um
That like
That it has that whole like map
And and exploring the fog of war bit to it as well
Um that a flying bison can provide so that's that's great. That's really satisfying. Hey
before we get off of uh
Airbender I have what I would call homework for you woolly because I'm desperate to talk to you about it
I need your eyeballs
To hit the m shaman lawn masterpiece that is the last airbender
I suppose I might this needs to be discussed
I suppose I might at some point. It is the worst movie I have ever seen in the theater
I mean it's it's
It's just a matter of
my curiosity versus
um
What other things can I do with two hours of my time?
Two it's super long. Oh, yeah
Hold on. Let me check the runtime last airbender
movie runtime is
Oh, it is two hours. Okay. It just felt much longer. Well, um
So this is this is and this is how I in a lot of cases
Like this is how I kind of like look at my time in many in many ways where it's just like
um
You know get into this check this out replay that do this and stuff and I'm kind of just like hmm
What do I want to do with my time right now?
What do I want to do with my time right now and mo for the answer over the last couple of months was watch more avatar
Um, that's what I wanted to do with my time and currently it's watch Korra, but
Maybe we shall see
We shall see
It's
It's a good
If you have an interest
in
Studios ruining things. Hey man
Then you need to watch that shit because it is the ultimate dragon ball evolution
Needed to happen. It is way worse than dragon ball evolution needed to happen
So that's what you know. You're in with the big boys when a giant studio movie production completely misunderstands everything about your story
You know, you've arrived
You know, you've arrived
I think my favorite quote from M. Night Shyamalan is that
In the movie fire benders need flame to be around them
To fire bend they cannot manifest it and when asked why he did that he said I didn't think it was fair that fire benders could
Just do fire bending whenever
That that that unlike the other
Gangs and you're like that's the point. Yeah
It's pretty that's that that's the literal point
It's pretty impressive that the exact same fire
That sparked bad box art mega man
From the original design carried forward like an olympic torch to create the likes of dragon ball evolution
And the last air bender movie that same
Fire of complete misunderstanding of the product
right staring at the thing and
Thinking about what the what the typical market wants
That you think you assume what the audience wants and then looking at the existing thing that they already like and going
No
Not what you already like
What I think everyone else wants
Carrying it forward all these years later. It's pretty impressive
That spark will never die
It's it's the bad the bad box art mega man
Olympic flame
You know the complete misunderstanding
Of a product as you adapt it
I know what the kids want says sabon
In his sarcophagus
It's pretty impressive. It's a pretty impressive thing
Um, you know what this kitchen needs
What's that cooks
It does it it many more
The reason why the script many many more we need to get more uh
Executive writer
Credits on this on the script. We need to get more punch ups
You got it. You got to get your punch up in if you don't punch up a script
If then you don't get a fucking you don't get a credit for it. You don't get paid
Your worth on retainer is is is dropped. You're you're useless
You better if you are in the building when a script comes sliding down the conveyor belt
You better grab it punch it up real quick and toss it over
I love lucy style
Everybody's got to get the punch ups
Well, anyway, um, I
Fucking love avatar the last airbender
Super good. It's good. Super good show
How was your week?
That's all right
Uh
Some interesting stuff. I'll skim through a couple. I watched secret of nim last night for the first time ever. Oh
Yo, uh rat adventures. Hell. Yeah on on page's recommendation. Okay
Um, I I now before you go. Oh, wow, that's a really good recommend from page. Let's be aware
that uh page a few weeks ago
recommended me fucking jupiter ascending
One of the worst pieces of shit. I've ever seen in my life. Isn't that the so that's the wachowski joint recommendations are not to be trusted
That's the wachowski post cloud atlas
Yeah, that's the one. Okay. Okay. So that is pretty
Yeah, fine. Fair enough
Questionable tastes fair enough. Anyway, regardless, but you got secret of nim. Hey, you get to appreciate that classic don bluth
Yeah, um, it's like what so when the movie ended I was like really
That's the whole movie
Because I almost like your villain shows up and is dealt with within like I want to say like 11 minutes
Like the whole movie is on fast forward except for the parts where animals are just hanging out
Stacking things on shelves and falling over. Can you see and this is this is a dawn bluth
Animation masturbation. It really is. Can you see like that's all it is. Can you see how it led to?
A yes fucking genre of imitators and
Uh, just all kinds of like little mouse night adventures
In the form I can also see
The the logic of having all these characters wear clothes
Even though they're just mice and rats, but then sometimes they don't wear clothes
Which is in animation parlance means that rat is naked. Hmm. Hmm. And I'm like 1982, huh?
Yeah, yeah, so you okay, you can you can understand where your red walls and your and your um
Martin the warrior has come from, you know
Uh
Or your tales of despero
For your modern child
There's a fucking there's a modern cg one that uh
We had a the game in the office because it was a fucking brass joint, but anyway
Um, but yeah, yeah, you want to watch a bunch of dawn bluth style the high end western 80s animation
Go watch secret anem. Also some really really short scary moments and some really
like
um
Yeah, like you said just animation masturbation, you know, do you want to see some animation?
Do you want to see uh, dom de louise act like a jackass?
Had a weird moment where I I couldn't
so
The the actors of the day in 82 were so far removed from my mind
that my only
touching stone on it was
Hollywood squares
And so I could like is that dom de louise or bobcat gold rate. I'd like I can't
huh
And it's like, okay, when I was dom it was dom de louise. Okay. Good. All right moving on
Yeah, I still have a soft spot for tight nae in my heart
Deep down never seen it. Yeah
I still I still have a soft never seen it because the the first thing I ever heard about it ever was that like
Was a like a back of the box kind of like quote like from a review
It's like it's like watching a video game and I'm like, oh that must be terrible
It probably it should have been a show instead of a movie
Because it's like, you know a bunch of kids
Going on adventures in space on the way to finding
What the new earth should be and it like it probably it had enough legs to do space adventures for a couple episodes before
wrapping up in such a fucking
You know short and brief
telling um
But yeah, I also whenever I think of secret of them now. I also think of uh that one
I think I talked about it like uh, perhaps probably years ago at this point but that one episode of uh
Clarence
where
Where the kid is
Where the kid goes and has he has this amazing
bluth-esque like adventure with these birds and mice and
Snakes and garden animals all kind of coming together and singing
Together in this musical harmony and it's all a perfect thing
But it's just what the kid is it's the kid's adventures in his own head and then it I think it hard cuts
To like someone turning a light on in a garage and just seeing the kid on the ground and a bunch of animals just go
And kind of scurry into the corners
And it's just it's fucking great. It's just the hilarious like oh man
Like this is this is exactly what is happening in a child's mind as secret of nim is really just them
rolling around in dirt
And and and snakes and bugs and squirrels are just running all over their bodies and then running away from the light
Good times
Animals are horrible except except you know like cats and dogs and rabbits and horses, etc
Uh, what else what else what else what else? Uh, so
I got into uh
Oh, this is where this is where woolly's
Ability to pay attention is gonna really kick on don't I got in a call of duty over the weekend. That's fine, man
Don't over think my fucking resting bitch face
I can't see you dude. No, I I I mean for
Anyway, my as I sit and listen
It it might anyway go on go on
Okay, you're resting bitch voice
Resting bitch voice as you're silent
It but it no but it no but that it comes from when you were sitting in the couch in front of me
And you'd be like you're dying right now and I'm like, I'm not dying. I'm listening to you go on
I don't know. It looks like you're dying. I can't see you, but it feels like you're dying
um
So I downloaded war zone, which I was genuinely a little confused as to what exactly it was because
Uh, it is the multiplayer suite of like the modern warfare that they put out, but it's separate
So like and we had that big confusing moment over like the title of the game and what it actually is called because
I call yeah, the I called it I called it a war zone
And you said it was something else and then it was what I don't I don't even remember
It's it's confusing because you literally download it and like it opens up on the the like the middle option
Like there's three options left middle and right and the middle one is war zone
And the one on the left is the real game in air quotes
And the one on the right is the battle. It's like what the fuck
Um, it's battle royale game
And just like uh blackout before it
Uh, it's pretty good. And now they ruined blackout eventually with a bunch of loot box
Like pay-to-win shit
Uh, this one doesn't seem to be ruined so far and actually seems to be like a genuine genuine improvement on the
how do I put this
Non fortnite battle royale. Okay
Formula, okay, because you know you got your fortnite
And fortnite's gonna fortnite. So um, the first thing I guess I'm curious about is
I remember when um, call of duty
Was adding all of those titanfall esque features in advanced warfare
And we talked about like oh shit like they've they've futured up, right?
Yeah, that's okay. That's what I was wondering is do they just go? Yeah, fuck that that was then an hour back
Yeah, no titanfall was coming out. So they decided to swipe those
And now that titanfall died they they're just going back to it's just okay. All right great. Okay
Just the old style because they're I I want to say that I was like
Somewhere in somewhere in that conversation we discussed were like like so do they is this gonna feel so different that they have to kind of
Figure out a way to keep some of this and I guess the answer is hard. The answer is no absolutely not
The answer is no okay
um
so
Warzone is your classic like hey fall down shoot the guys get into the center
But they actually have a couple little tweaks that make it like
Like distinct enough
But it's always this kind of feeling of like man. I wish pub g just had worked
Instead of falling into a god damn piece of shit
And so every single thing after that is like oh does it can I just run around and shoot people?
Yes
This map goes up to 150 instead of 100 people
And the map timer appears to be like half an hour tops
So they really crunch you together like much faster
Um, you end up fighting dudes way more often in this game
But isn't the map then the other battle royale isn't the map a mixture of all the recognizable maps put together?
Uh, no, it's recognizable types of locations from the call of duty series like you know like a a crashed
Uh, like a bunch of plane skeletons and an airport and stuff like that, but they're not specific
Oh, okay
um
Uh, they crunch you together and there's way more people
They also have little quests that you can pick up
And they will either send you to supply to to items
They will send you to locations or they will send you to straight up like hunt other players down with a little radar on them
Um, because it's called duty when people fire their guns unless they're silenced you could see their position on your map
Uh
You can call down a uav to see people's position on your map
You can get a heartbeat sensor to get people's relative location
On your map, so there's way way way more ways to just go. Oh, there's a guy right there
I I can go I can go and did this help you did this help you win the game?
I have not won the game no
but
It is this thing where
you get to play the game a lot more
in pub g
and uh
To a degree like even blackout like hiding in a fucking
corner until the goddamn
Uh
Gas past you or the you know the line past you was totally viable
here
Someone's probably gonna find you like you actually have to
shoot gun more which is nice
and bonus
one of the larger frustrations of the battle royale
is
You drop and you happen to drop in that that location
Where there are 35 other people within 10 feet
The hot spot and you have you have no chance to survive like you're running to pick up the gun and a guy
Kicks down the door and he already has a gun and you're dead solo, right?
Uh
It's all it's a four three two and one. Oh, okay. You were playing solo
I play solo. Yes, okay
So, okay. I died within 10 seconds of hitting the floor
The game takes it easy on you and kicks you into uh, uh,
The it's big twist, which is the gulag
And the gulag is every single person that dies
Gets to have a duel against somebody else who died
And if you win that duel in this tiny little arena you get to drop
That is brilliant
What a smart way to keep people playing
It turns off at 25 people to go because otherwise you would have people dropping in with no gear into like a 10 by 10 foot circle
That's brilliant, but what a good design makes you and
Because I I've dropped in and died instantly and then had games where I got to like
Number 14 by crawling back in right? Yeah
And I've also had games where I lasted for a really long time and then dropped back in and died instantly dude
But the the shot
Right the the the well-designed second chance
is
Not something you see often. It's usually just a binary thing. It's usually you have one or you don't
Yo, you got two lives or you know what I mean? But the idea of earning it via
a 1v1 and then the numbers can allow people to
Uh, still slowly reduce, but you know that you're gonna have to deal with a lot more people than you usually would
Is very interesting
There's a there's a really there's a there's a lot going on in that that gulag
Which is essentially a loser's bracket to get back into the pool
Um, yeah, so exactly a tiny area. It is a loser's bracket. You're given
Uh, you're given identical gear
Um, and like the reason why I've been wearing my headphones way more often lately is because footstep direction is super important
Uh, so you're in a tiny arena. So normally if you just walk you would be able to hear exactly where somebody is
Well, all the people waiting for their match actually exist in an area above
The the fighting arena and can throw rocks into it to make that hilarious
So wait, are you in a large open?
Coliseum or are you in like a no no it is a very it's like a it's like a 30 by
50 foot room with cover a lot of
A lot of barriers and stuff like that. Okay, so a little bit of that
Uh, let's say a way out
It looks like the shower room from uh, the rock
Yeah, I don't remember that the Sean Connery. Yeah, I don't remember that room
But um, okay. All right, so you but you still you you have to duel and it's not a just an open
Area, okay. Yeah
Are you paired up big randomly?
Yeah, you're paired up right
The other big twist is where the call of duty shit comes in
Whereas like call of duty has had like the unlock the weapons unlock the gear shit for a million years now
Um, and the loadouts and the perks and all that shit. Well, you don't load in with any of that shit
You're just grabbing shit off the floor
But as you are doing a little side quest or running up and picking up cash or killing other people
You can earn cash and you can use that cash to buy kill streaks or even buy a custom loadout
And when your custom loadout drops in your custom loadout also drops with perks that you have set up for itself
so
I mentioned earlier there were UAVs and heartbeat sensors
There is a perk to have your character ignore that or have two primary weapons or run faster and farther or etc
And so you get to the end of the thing and you better fucking hope that you ended up with your custom loadout that has perks
Because all the other guys in that tiny ring are totally going to have them
When and it gives you a high degree of incentive to do those little quests and to
Find and shoot people and to pick up shiny chance. Do you know if you gulag as a squad?
I don't okay
When you make it back in are you coming back in late game?
When you may when you come back in you come back immediately
But you're coming in with nothing into a world that has
Had been scraped for shit. Okay, so you're coming back mid game because the car you said there's a cutoff
You're coming back whenever
You happen to die and you like you I've only waited like two minutes tops for gulag match
Like it's very quick
So you're coming back immediately if you can't if you died at number 40
You're coming back in at number 36. Okay, and you but you just have to find everything that you're fucking
Because you're you're still starting empty, right?
um
Yeah, I because what i'm wondering is like if you squad
And then you 1v1 in the gulag. Do you come back with do this everybody? You know what I mean?
Do you come back on on another team or?
so
people in the chat are saying that
Your squad can if they are in the peanut gallery can tell you where the guy is oh fuck, okay
And there's also an achievement or a quest thing that I saw which is uh buy your whole team back in
Interesting, so I imagine one of the buy options become
Like literally buy your buy your dude back in
Okay
That is which seems awesome. Yeah, um
Okay, so but so you yeah, you can you you're you're winning your battle, but you can you still all come back in and play yeah
I
Really find that interesting that the loser's bracket
Is absolutely a wonderful thing. I mean fuck dude like you know, um
Early early japanese tournaments were had no losers bracket. They were uh one and done
Which is crazy insane. It's it's absolutely insane, you know, and that's just the way they did it single
elimination
Uh ride or die doesn't matter what you come up against
So it literally changes the tier list around and it makes characters that are explosive and unpredictable
Way higher than they would be in a more consistent set
Um dudley and makoto can fly high in a world where anything goes who knows what's going to happen on this game, you know
So yeah having that
Incorporated into your main multiplayer mode is fucking great
It's really smart because it's taken like when I would play pub g back in the day
My average time per game was really bizarre
because
it was
um
either
like 45 seconds
or or
25 or the whole thing. Yeah. Yeah
and with uh the ability to get the second shot like I feel like the average
The average warzone match is like
10 to 20 minutes
which
like
feels like a
Getting blown out twice instantly. Yeah
Feels like shit, but but most of the time you get to actually play for a little and you get a little bit of sodium
Don't you?
Yeah, you're like, okay, but i'm playing the game and you're like, oh, I made it back in I'm not garbage
I beat that guy
I can take another shot at it and then I get blown out again by someone who's amazing, but you're like, okay
Fine, you know like you took that second shot. It really it it is a loser's bracket
um existing
is like
It's so important in in terms of just I mean edit in a tournament context, right?
But mentally like you're able to really go like, all right, listen, I I fought a god, you know
so
sure, but
I that's not exactly a fair chance against even odds and there never will be but
I really want to know what can I do?
You know and you just you get to play more you get to play faster and then like
You give that person a more accurate reading of like you don't just get one dot on the chart of
Where you are skill wise you get two dots to try and figure out your your high and your low range
You know you're in between this bracket and by bracket. I mean they also do some mathematical bracket
They also do some fun little stuff with like, you know, I had your warm-up match like the minute before when everybody's loading in
Um, this is the only one that I can think of in which you actually drop with a gun
Like is pubg and I think fortnight like they just start you with the default shit
So you hit the ground in that warm-up match and it is a nightmare because it is all 150 people
jammed into like 200 square feet. Yeah
open and
The fun bit about that is that kills in the warm-up with random bullshit will level those weapons up
So you can get more attachments on your custom loadouts like you actually
Can do daily challenges in that shit by accident
Uh
So you actually play it's funny like when I loaded it into pubg I would just afk because I don't give a shit
Right when I load up into the the war zone fucking like warm-up
I actually shoot dudes and warm up. It's cool. It's cool. It's a cool little game
That's nice. Um, I'm um
noticing like uh, yeah similarly in uh
In the repertorium you can build towards perks
Or not perks. So you can build towards a
Weapon unlocks. So
That's nice. So there's there's two two final things. I want to say one is
I think it's the nature of certain types of games with certain types of settings
Because there's a battle pass for it, right?
And the battle pass gets you blueprints for custom weapons that have maybe attachments you didn't unlock yet
it'll have cosmetics for your calling card and your quip and your
Your costume and your skins and I'm looking at all 100 and I'm like dude, who gives a shit
They're all just different types of camouflage and dude bros with with beanies on and face paint
Like they're all modern military
And I'm like, who I don't who gives I don't give a shit. This is all worth this is all worthless
This is all worthless crap. Doesn't you can't be a dragon. Well, I was gonna say
Or an anime man doesn't like rainbow six still have like drastically different skins besides just like military operatives
Right like on occasion
um
So just cod ain't gonna have fun with it
Yeah cod cods. I mean, it's it's consistent
Right
It's like you do you modern military realistic look
And I'm like, I don't know. It's not for me. I guess
um, and the other feature
That I bet is way more fun when you're playing with squads
Is call of duty war zone
If you are using a microphone and your microphone is on
And you die you will transmit the final two seconds of your life to the person who killed you
So
In solo it's fairly rare
But every now and then I will get a dude and I'll hear if fucking bitch and it's just like, mm-hmm
Yes, didn't we just talk about this?
as uh shame features go
A little while ago, right? They actually right a call of duty game
Is putting in the
Like the ball cam
Huh, and you could turn it off if you want but by default
But like you're the last thing they said before they they got like I like I have heard
Some angry toxic shit
Sent my way
That's and uh, oh, yeah, dude. That's funny because it like
it it um
it basically is like
establishing that we know that like toxic salt
is
Like a commodity
And we're serving you an order of it
Like it's fully embracing that and being aware of it because they know exactly what you're gonna hear on the other end
And they're and oh you're gonna hear some angry whiny voice and they're assuming you want to hear it. So that's
I want that's pretty funny. It's a bummer because in solo. I mean, there's no real good reason to have your microphone on so you hear it fairly rarely
Uh, if you're playing in squads, I assume most people are chatting with their one one
So you're way way more likely to hear it
Oh, it's just I've heard some angry little babies and it's just it's uh
Overwatch like even if I killed an instant later over. I'm just like overwatch is out here like
Filtering the text to to turn filtering gg to turn words into other words
And call of duty is like wrapping it up in a bow and putting a fucking
Delivery notice and sending it to your door with a frame around it. So you can hang it on your wall
it's it's
It's good that they don't forget their roots because like halo two and three
and call of duty four and modern warfare two
had like
That was the pinnacle of the shittiest voice chat experience ever
There's never been a more toxic series of lobbies
And and open voice chat comms
Ever I would imagine than those four games. I would imagine. Yeah
And like it was fucking sick
It was sick man
It was the best
It was the best I see
And
You're just getting a little taste of that just a little taste of that
Uh, what else do I do with my my life? Hey
I finally defeated. I finally took a look at warhammer and got through the block
the horrible horrible
OCD all my units block that kept me from enjoying that game at all
I finally crested that hill and got to play warhammer for a good bunch to this past
Did you do that by
That and and did you do that by going into warhammer adventures stories from the far future attack of the necron?
I did not okay
I did not the easy the easy way to do that actually I've discovered something bizarre about my personality
And you might be able to to empathize with this more than most do tell and that is oh
Okay, we're gonna we're gonna start up. Uh, you know war is a complicated rts 4x thing with units and buildings all this shit, right?
All right, uh, let's do a warhammer stream. Okay, this stream save file
Doesn't matter because it's just for the people and I'm not gonna come back to it
Yeah, that's what we talked about last week
Yeah, well it works. Yes, you make a third slow
I literally made that suggestion. I was like, yeah, make it just make a third slot who and then you don't care about it
And you push it off skin off camera
Yeah, uh, and I was able to do that and I was able to actually see through
Like oh, that's not that big or that is a big deal, etc
And then as a bonus, I know he literally said that you jacket you motherfuckers
Ah, anyway
And then as a bonus there is a faction in that game that has free units
And no unit upkeep because they're a a mass skeleton faction in which if your whole army gets annihilated, it's fine
you just take three turns to build them back up
and
And that was mothman's advice to go tomb kings and once I did that I'm like, oh, this is how the
I was never able to get
Deep enough in to see how things fit together. So I don't what to actually worry. I don't understand the free units part of this
Okay, so in in an rts game of this nature
Units have a buy-in cost and they also have an upkeep cost
Right, so you have your your town's economy
And uh, a treasury and so like oh, I'm taxing everybody really well and I have a bunch of economic buildings
So I'm rolling in money, right?
Which enables you to build up a high-end fancy army with really high-end units, right?
That's most of the factions in the game
Uh, the tomb kings being made up entirely out of skeletons
Have no buy-in on their units at all and they have no upkeep on their units at all either
but they have a limited amount of
armies on the field
and
Their buildings are laughably expensive
But so it puts all of your economic like decision making
On your town rather than your army
Which means that losing a town is
A billion times more catastrophic
But losing an army just means just time and they'll come right the fuck yeah, okay
Um, so that ends up in a situation where like oh, I can get through the first 30 40 50 turns
Before any of that other shit starts to come up, which means I get it. Oh, I get to do like 5 10 battles
I get to do
I get to
Examine like oh, how would I want to compose an army or whatever and now that I've done that I'm like oh
Who cares if your army gets fucked up?
Just get more army
Which is different from what I I had originally anticipated, which was oh, I lost half my units
Oh, my game might as well be over and you quit preemptively should
Then you would quit and restart, etc. Okay
Okay, all right, so you just had to and it's it's
It's one of those things where people can tell you that
but
Until you actually have to see that
That's it's different. I feel like
So I have the ocd and that's part of it
But also I see a lot of people who don't have the ocd have this issue where they have to save every elixir essentially
Yeah
And all I can think of is like dude the super nintendo era of games fucking taught a generation of people all the wrong lessons
Um like mega man save those e-tanks for signal
Well, I think uh, yeah, what I what I would say is probably
Since we've been over this in a couple of different versions kind of conversationally
I would say that like there were game design mistakes that had not yet been
Explored when it comes to the idea of consumables consumables. Yeah are
um
Besides like ocd and goblins besides that level of like uncomfortable to use, you know for those purposes
they're also just like
You don't know what the future holds holds
And even someone who is just like fast and loose with their consumables
Might still just have like a moment of paralysis as to whether or not they should bother
You know on this attempt or not
I want to say all the way up until like
The 360 era games still often had
Constant fucked up super ridiculous difficulty spikes
That's a way less common now
But like I remember
Engaging in dozens and dozens of games in which I'm like how the fuck could I have possibly done this?
Unless I had saved all of my resources to deal with this and of course that and it was one of those things that moved forward as a habit from
You know, just this is what rpgs are. This is how these games work
You know when when you you'd find yourself going from it's like whatever was established by a fucking dragon warrior
You know, you're going to be finding later on years later when you're playing pokemon
And it's like this is a temporary buff for your pokemon in this moment of the fight in this one fight
And it is a consumable you got to go buy and you're just like
Well, and it turns out in the end meta wise this shit's really important
But you're like I don't know how strong how much of a struggle this is compared to the next one, you know, I think the um
Yeah, at some point there was a realization I think and and and we started seeing
The think con like concepts like estus
You know
arrive
but
Estes is my favorite like item in any game of all time. It's very smart
It's a consumable that they tell you to use and you use it because you better. Yeah, but it's also like it's it's
Meant to help you the exact number of times you have it for that life
You know for this attempt. It's like there is a there's an expected challenge here and you
uh can
Deal with this many threats, but you you don't have to worry about
the unknown
As and be paralyzed by whether or not to take a sip, you know
Now the the total worst thing that I'm dealing with is a problem that you're pretty much only going to deal with
for one total war game ever
because they're all the same more or less and
This particular total war hammer two has like 35 different fucking factions. Oh, sorry. Can I so like
I was just just I had a second thought third real quick is just like
Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know it was just that um the existence of estus then makes things like life gems
and even fucking
Electric paper or whatever like or blood. Yeah, it then makes those things like okay. Yeah, you got an alternative here
But that alternative is meant to be like an alternative. There's a clear
Way forward with just the base challenge, you know
Um, and then those things become an optional thing as opposed to this shit is actually extra
Yes, and you can thank your you can spend at your leisure and you know spend money to replace at your leisure
Um, but no requirements of this are asked of you, you know, but yeah anyway
Uh, what the fuck was I was saying uh the the in the total war series like everybody who's played these games before like
Rome or Attila or whatever the fuck they learned this long ago, and I'm I'm way at the ass end of it
um, and also like warhammer 2 has like
Like it looks like a fighting game character select for something like marvel
There are so many fucking different characters and factions that it's like, oh
You'll play the tirion campaign and then fail the tirion campaign and then there are still five more
high elf campaigns that you can give a shot
If you like that army
And then want to you know give it another go
like
Fucking ridiculous is total warhammer the most
like
um
Does it have the most lore in terms of just like the breadth of content compared to other warhammer related games?
I don't uh other warhammer releases
There's no question. Yeah, this is the biggest warhammer game. Okay. There's the biggest war with the most amount of warhammer stuff
Not just 40k. Okay
It has the most stuff by far not even close
Um, it's probably also the best of them
Because because I always got the that it is really good
I always got the impression that like if let's say you played all these individual games related to warhammer or related to 40k
That like in each case you're only getting a slice of whatever that game is offering you
And that you would never really get the full picture until you just dove into the fucking lore, you know that it yeah
So as far as I like there are like four
Good warhammer games. No five. There are five good warhammer games
Right. There's this one
There's dawn of war
Uh dark crusade
There's dawn of war two
There's space marine
And then there's uh
A vermin tide. Oh, you're including both, right?
Okay. Yeah, no, they they mix in there. Okay
Um, and the reason why I say that uh, yeah, there might be a six or a seven. Oh
Mechanicus is good too
Um, so six the reason why I point that out like wow six good
Uh, uh warhammer games. That's cool, isn't it?
There are so many fucking warhammer games, dude
The game's workshop gives that license out all over. Oh, yeah, it's the double dragon license
Dude, there are so many
And many of them are fucking bad
like bad
Okay, um, so and warhammer 40k has had a better record than warhammer has
Um, I got a copy of space Hulk for the Sega Saturn on my shelf
Did I talk last week about the the historical people being
Angry at total warhammer?
Yes, because it took the place of the of the accurate history
Yeah, and like this past weekend probably because of mandalore's video like warhammer 2 had its like best weekend ever
It was like quite high up on steam played and whatnot
Um, and I get the reference to that name though
It's nice. It's a good. It's like, oh, it's just a good. It's a good game
It's a it's a really good. It's a really good type of them grand strategy slash rts games
And it's so much more interesting to the average person and there's
like
Even from a gameplay perspective like yeah, people love total war room, right?
And everybody loves that, but you know what that shit doesn't have
flying units
Because why the fuck would it have flying units?
Why you know what else it doesn't have?
magic spells or summoned entities or
The ability for I don't know the galls to create a rat nuke underneath row
Well, this is where video games can have fun
With their design choices outside of your themes, you know
If you're if you are into it for the historical accuracy, you're a different type of player
But you're probably in the minority compared to people that are just like yeah digging it for you know
What it's got going on as a game
Yeah, uh, but yeah good game liked it
And that's that's pretty much it for my week if you want to check me out you can take a look over at
twitch.tv slash pat stairs at doing dark souls and war zone and
Xenoblade this week
Okay
Um
So hey, well, can you give me a few minutes?
I gotta there was a delivery the door and I know all I'm package sitting out there for like, you know
A couple hours, so I'll be back in like five. All right brb
See
I should meet myself to do that. That's fine brb
Okay
Took the time to get myself a second cup of coffee. All right
um
Right, so over on my side of things, uh
besides
The aforementioned
Um, I forgot to ask you something that you told me I could ask you about this week about your channel
Yeah
Doka pawn has now
Completed in both anime and manga format
so
it is
Uh
It is it is fair
Game to discuss if you still haven't caught up on doka pawn, then you're gonna need to dodge
But um doka pawn is now complete in both anime and manga format. We are going to be discussing
The the doka pawn. I mean it doesn't have to be a big discussion, but we're we're we're not holding back spoilers
So, yeah, that shit went down
That shit went down. I would like to say congratulations to men
The dokage
I would also like to point out
That all three of you
are bitch cowards
Okay
I was informed before
Or after I don't know it depends
Uh, I've received a statement
from
uh one
Doka game in yes, that's right
um, so
If you would be so kind I can just uh, absolutely go for it. All right, so, um
Min says if pat on the podcast
Disagrees with the winner's decision to split the pool
Please tell him that it is well within my rights as the winner to use it as I see fit
He is not my financial advisor nor the judge to decide how my uh, well-earned money should be spent
um
So essentially I can do what I want with it. That is absolutely accurate. I am not the judge nor his financial
advisor
I'm merely a not even active. I am a passive outside observer
To which I say that is a bitch coward talk and
You and reggie are in no way
Free of the bitch cowardess
Which is while he is totally free to do what he will with his money
You two are also free to not accept that money because you are losers
And you lost
All right
That's it this literally, okay, okay
Uh
That's cool
Personally I said what I said at the at the end of it, which was um
Well the way he phrased it was uh, generosity is the ultimate salt
I found that to be uh
So now that the audio has to be an eye roll he's doing a jerk off motion a jerk a jerk off motion
Uh, we talked about it. It was funny because in that moment too reggie said, uh, yo, I would have I
Would have done the same thing and I'm in fact, I'm mad that uh, you got the good guy credit on that move
Uh, and I said, oh, I would have taken it. So I am shocked that this is what you're doing
Uh, straight up
real
We have a room of chris g's of pot splitters
so
Now the specter of collusion will always
rain over your heads
Collusion takes place before something goes down. How can we ever know now that we saw that the pot got split?
That I'm looking you in the eye right now and telling you that that's not what okay
Well, I'm looking everyone else in the eye and telling them the honest truth that that's how it went down
Oh, I'm not saying none of us knew he was gonna do that now
The specter of collusion will always live on
That's fine, but I'm telling you that that's not true. That's a lie
So right away whether you choose to not believe that is up to you
But the honest truth is I had no idea he was gonna do that neither did reggie
If you have a blood pool that you should see blood and not all shake hands and be cool, man
I don't disagree
I was
Very much like anyway, that's that that's how that's how I
Uh, uh stated I was going to not I wasn't going to do that. That was a very surprising move, but
um
I was I was informed by somebody who kept up that uh
May have done so as he portrayed himself as the ultimate villain of dokapon
This was a way to like buy back some good will with generosity
That's possible. I think so. I mean
I kind of set myself up as the villain early on by being a shithead
From the start which then
Turned most people against me for the remainder of it
There was an interesting journey, you know as as as the
The arcs of the anime flowed and and as we went through
filler arcs and training arcs and all kinds of things and um
In the end there was sort of a a coalescing around
Uh, you know team reggie as the the hero
for the most part, but I think
Uh when it came down to it like
It just uh, it pretty much the tension was the bat the final battle between
Uh me min and the final boss, you know
and um
People might not necessarily have ended on the same teams that they started out with
But one thing was for sure from the jump
I was I was being a humongous asshole in the first session
and
Min was a shit-disturber. He was an agent of chaos
And that and that was his uh, that was his angle. So
There might be some credence to that theory
Yeah
Yeah, it was pretty. What I'm saying is that if you don't give that money back you are a bitch coward. That's it. That's it
Okay
So, uh doke upon if you'd like to see how this all went down
in uh
this
legendary
insanely ridiculous, uh
Fucking lp you can catch all of that
currently on woolly versus and um
And also, uh, I think we're gonna what I did do
So the final episode is was not listed as the final because we didn't want to give it away for people that were like
Edge of their seat holding on to see what was going to happen
So now it was just put out as the number
But then we're gonna come back to it and re-edit it so that it is clear that it is the end of the playlist
But at least for that initial release, we didn't want you to to know it was the final episode before that's smart. I like that
That's good. Yeah, we did a little we did a little fake out. Um
Uh, and and and I guess the perfect opportunity while I'm talking about that to mention as well that you might see a
But a bunch of other things that are pretty different. Um on the channel
and uh
Yeah, I basically, you know, uh decided that I want to change the format up a little bit. So
um, at least in terms of presentation were now
um
putting
uh unique
Titles thumbnails descriptions for each
I've noticed a lot of people are doing that
Well, um, there's an algorithm thing where you go, you won't believe what happened here. Oh god. Yeah
One weird trick, you know, all of that jazz is absolutely algorithming. Um, and I don't
Think it hurts you to add unique descriptors certainly, but for me, it's definitely more about
Oh, fuck. Which episode was it where, uh,
Will he fought rico jr? Yeah
Uh, let's look at these thumbnails. They're all the same. Let's look at these. Okay. The only indicator here is the number of the
Who knows? Yeah, right versus the one where he's on the thumbnail and it says
Uh, fuck you rico jr. You know, so
um in terms of just
Allowing someone to like find anything in any of our lps
I think it'll come in handy, especially considering the length of both dokapon and kotor 2
There are some choice moments that people want to like find rewatcher, you know, uh, uh, and and you know
Get to so it's like why not help with that certainly so, um, you know
Doing that having a little bit of a description to like cover at least what's going on there and just getting getting the
The shortening of the title so that's just the name and then the number and then that more information helps everybody helps people find
Things better and uh, if you happen to not be watching something for example, but you're waiting for a certain part
Which some people, you know, sometimes do they're like, oh, I know this game
I don't want to watch the whole thing, but I do want to see once they get to this planet or something like that
Well, now you've got that information, you know, so, um
Just more details for the anime to help it
Um
To help people find what they need so that's going to be going down
Doom right now is kind of doing it too with with each episode and we also like to congratulate you by the way
I took a look at the eternal, uh intro sequence and
And uh, that is a a master stroke
Thank you. Thank you. I am quite
Pleased that uh, that was made possible. Did she know there wasn't like what is the backstory on that?
There wasn't much room
To to evolve that bit except in the direction that it went in
There's nowhere else to go after the first one quite frankly
It's kind of sad that like the bit is kind of done because I don't think you're ever going to top like getting it
No, no, no, no, that's not that
Yeah, yeah, that's done. It you know much like and past discussions
There's nowhere else to go with this. We're done here the um, the the the probably
One of the funniest things to me is like when my mom did agree to to do the bit like
When I when she when she did it it was so funny because I'm like
Okay, one
This is being she gets someone. Uh, someone recorded it right for her and two
like
She's doing her best to not turn on the fucking accent
And she said she's trying to sound as proper as possible
Because that was a weird thing because I ran into your mom twice and her accent is usually thicker than that
So so, you know, so but but this is a thing you have to you you hear it, right?
And like it kind of happens way more with jamaicans than it does with like other islands
I find like with granadians with with with uh, basins. It's it's it's a little bit different
But like jamaicans do this thing where they suddenly try to speak very correctly
And they try to enunciate every word you see because it makes me sound a little bit smarter if I announce my words
And I'm holding back the accent
Exactly you hear this very weird thing where I'm suddenly trying to speak very clearly
But if you know the truth, you know that the accent is one second away from you know, like it's coming
It's it's being held back like fucking p3 protagonist
You know, the it's it's gonna come flowing out
So she is absolutely doing her best to sound proper and not too fucking
Not too island with it, you know, and and and it works because you know, she she did it, but like I'm like, oh
Oh, you best believe on this word of that word too
you best believe when the cameras are off and the and the and the the the
Tolerance is is low
That the full thing comes out, you know, and that's what I was doing in the first
In the first intro. I was doing the real shit. You're getting the sanitized version
And
Yeah, yeah, exactly. So that was great. Um lots of fun on that with doom eternal and
um
bless bless
bless up
more life
I
Am
Very much enjoying the loop of that game. Mm-hmm
It is quite a nice cycle and the fact that we have been introduced to gun mechanics that
can break the cycle to your choosing
is
a phenomenal way of allowing you to play how you want to so
Flamebelch is fantastic. Oh man. What like that was the missing piece. It was the revert
To the eye the doom tony hawk system
I wish flame belch was a giant yoga flame
I kind of wish it covered a large area in front of me, but regardless. It's a nice piece that puts in the ability to get your
shields back
Wonderful. Um, this is something that you incorporate in the loop
Or if you would like you can instead upgrade your super shotgun
And allow the chains to flame up whatever you target. I would like to do that
That would be that's then you here is your new flame belch
In addition to the default one, you know, uh, I would like to heal when I go glory kill things
Of course I do, but I would also like to heal when I kill frozen things and blood punch them. Yes
So we can now have different angles to play this loop on
You know or rather different tracks to take I feel so bad for that fucking revenant dude. It opens it up
The the revenant that gives you your shotgun
Oh, yeah, yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's funny. It's also a way to introduce that multiplayer mechanic. I'm sure that in a way
I will promise to you
But we'll talk about that later
sure
the um
You know, I won't keep going on about um the level sizes. I said they're fucking I stay
Yep, I rather them short end of story
It gets really insane at the end where there is a level that is literally titled the level part one the level part two
The level part three and they are all oh my god all
Proper levels themselves. Wow, and you're like wow really?
Jesus
Yeah
um
the fucking
the absolute size
Of the uh of your base
Holy fuck. It's fucking gigantic too. Yeah, Jesus. You know, there's secrets in it
Yeah, I'm not surprised and shit. I believe it. I believe it took took 25 minutes probably going through his his like
bedroom
Or like whatever hangout room lounge that bookshelf is just a fucking apocalypse
mm-hmm
The bookshelf the fucking computer
Uh, yeah, just you can take a it took a while to get through every little bit in peace
You can really characterize a blank slate really hard if you just show us the room that they have designed for themselves
of course
Why wouldn't he be a guitar shredder?
fun things uh too is uh
You know wait the the first one really kind of touches on it, but this one really goes all in with
this is
sci-fi future
With this is sci-fi future built on top of fantasy
Like there are castles and knights and demons and magic dogs
And we put our soldier men in front of on on top of these things
um
Fucking nunchucks in a skateboard dude. Come on. Yeah. Anyway, so that's that's that's uh, that's all great
I uh just fought the um the doom hunter
And that is an action figure ass villain if i've ever seen one
I always tend to think that like monsters with no legs that have flying platforms or like
Dumb tank legs look really stupid every time. Yeah, and this is exactly that but it's like
Yeah, it it looks like an action figure. I love that you spend the whole level watching it be constructed
mm-hmm
mm-hmm
and
like
the doom hunter
Dude that thing is a boss fight and a half
I fucking adore the fact that you beat it and then the second one just comes in immediately
So you beat it and then you jump in the hole
And then they're like yeah, so it's an it's it's it's an enemy now
It is now an enemy that was that was your introduction
They didn't they didn't waste any time with that a lot of games will give you
Perhaps a level before they introduce it as a okay now fight it in the context of not a boss fight
And it's like now here's two
Go it's also like really similar to like a an old doom design
Which was like serge from doom 3
And it also looks just like like a warhammer 40k uh enemy
um
Yeah, it would look cooler with legs, but here's the thing
That fight like many other rooms teaches you
to move
And kill what happens to cross your lot your field of vision
But do but but do it in that order. I think outside of the final boss. That's the room. I died the most in in the game
Interesting because it's not the purple rooms
No, not the purple rooms ironically
But it was it's the room where it's like no, you're gonna learn how to do this properly
Yeah, or else you'll die. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
um
having um
Guiding getting those batteries now and i'm seeing like you're like, oh my god. Okay, wait, wait, how many things can we do here?
They're like, oh fuck. Okay. We've got the old weapon power-ups. We've got the weapon
Add-ons, then you got the power the pips for each add-on then you've got the mastery challenge then you've got the
Uh, well you got what used to be the praetor suit upgrades
now
split into two different like
screens
One of which is like praetor suit upgrades plus
An ability and then the second being like just like little
I guess like quality of life and cool down
Things to spend your cookies on you know all the cookie cookies you collect
And i'm like meh and then there's crystals, right? So i'm just like I
have
A lot of things to spend these batteries on and you really got to choose
Whether you want to go
I'll give you a tip
Because it was very shocking to me
There are more upgrade materials in the game than you need
Yes, I did catch that there are significantly more. It's like 70 percent
I did catch that the other thing is that eventually in the final batch of levels
There is a new type of upgrade power-up that just skips the weapon challenge
Oh, wow
Okay, so if there are weapon challenges that you're looking at that I don't care about fuck. I don't want to do that
Yeah, yeah
Just don't
Yeah for all the for all the non-preferred upgrades. I don't really want to you know
I got a very clear like no, I prefer this one. I don't want to do that one
So yeah, that's good. I like that good. I feel like um
Also, it's would be fun to start playing around with these cosmetics and skins that I can
Buy with the batteries, but
One, um
I would rather get a function upgrade. Yeah out of those batteries and two
I'm still enjoying the normal suit. He's got on. I don't need to change it yet
The classic look as my first upgrade and I I've worked pretty much the whole game
Hmm because
Because you got to get that that those abs out
Also, the cutscenes are hilarious if you use the old costume
Well, it's the only place you can really appreciate it though, right? Like you're not going to see it otherwise
So well your arms change as well
Oh, okay
um, yeah, so
uh
Fucking radish it
You know, we'll we'll we'll get there when we get there, but um
These these help priests are
They they's bitch and they're gonna go
As as they as as they should when you introduce, you know a bunch of scurrying little fucking
rodent people
To to to run around and and push things in front of them as they try to get away from you because doom guy is basically made
to
Face anyone who's gonna go. Hey wait. No, you can't oh
Like as long as the person is speaking in a holier than thou voice
Uh doom guy's got a perfect fucking antithesis
There's a there's a couple scenes in the game in which doom guy actually gets to interact with like normal human beings
And they're all incredible
Because it's so I met I mean I met the betrayer. So
Yeah, there's not much to that one so far, but he's still kind of normal compared to most of the people you run into
And that's like two seconds and i'm like, oh, hey kratos
How you doing so you're here, huh?
Yeah, i'm just chilling down here waiting for my dlc episodes
That's is that confirmed. Yeah, totally at least one of them is going to be levels is him
Gotcha, gotcha. Okay
doom eternal is fun
doom eternal is fun, um
We are getting through that, um
I cracked top 300 in teppen. So that's fucking sick zero get nerfed yet. Uh, no
Um season's still going
Keep riding that wave riding the wave. It's it's the wave
Uh, there's a couple other really strong waves happening in teppen right now. Um, but like it is
basically like it's become clear at this point that it's like if you are attempting
To play an honest game of teppen
With a character that is going to put cards down to uh do some damage and then win the game you shan't be winning the game
um the way you win
Right now in that top 500 or that even that say that top thousand bracket of teppen is
the
You basically have to create a
nonsense gimmick
That often involves like, um
Let's say for example not playing any cards on the field whatsoever
Uh, so there's a Ryu style of play where you never ever put a card down to attack anybody
You only play like action cards that direct damage the opponent. That sounds fucking stupid, man
And then you have a super and an ability that makes your direct attacks do more damage
so, uh
Ashley graham
Is that uh, yes, ashley is a character that doesn't attack
But when she's on the field, she makes your direct attacks do more damage
She makes anything you do do an extra damage point. Oh because then
So she she buffs up whatever you do, right
Then uh, Ryu can do like like dungeon kind of mode like he fucking does like an electric charge
And that adds an extra damage point as well so that he can just sit there
And directly attack you and you've got to find a way to deal with that shit because he's not playing the game
You know, um
Or you know, there are whiskers who will basically
Create a ridiculously expensive overpowered card
um
They'll make sure that they'll they'll play a card that drops that
Insanely expensive card into the graveyard and then they'll play another card that says resurrect anything in the graveyard for cheap
And now this super crazy thing
Shows up and you're like well fuck me, you know
Um, you basically have to do that. So yeah, that's kind of what's happening. It's it's it's become a bit of a scam
But I'm running a I'm running a uh, you know, like I said zero a zero scam that
revolves around there's something weird about like
car games in particular
Where there's this element of like I'm gonna run this until they get rid of it because I know they will because it's fucked
I guess I mean
If you're gonna because here's the deal right
You're either it's like you beat him or join him
So I'm fighting against that
Right with a pretty honest Nero deck
And it's just
It's literally it becomes impossible
Nice, you know, I'm like, oh, it's not going to happen. You're never going to do enough damage
like the only times it'll it'll work out in your favor is if
Everything that they're pulling up is extremely bad luck and everything I get is extremely good luck
If his best cards are at the bottom of his deck and my best cards are at the top then yeah, he's not going to win
You know, but just playing the odds would have in a randomized random ass shot
You can't win you can't win unless you have some horseshit
So yeah top 300 we'll have these moments where um, for example
Uh with my zero
um
you kind of
You kind of aren't you're playing a little bit here and there, but you're kind of wasting time
because
what you essentially want is either um, there's a
card that is uh, like I said v from from dmc5
Um, he can show up and then he can summon one of the three boys
And he and if one of the three boys dies you can immediately just bring them back up
Oh, nice over and over and over and over and over again, right? So
As long as v is alive they can keep coming back so you can kind of run that strategy
It's very expensive, but it works and another one is to
waste a bunch of time
and do what you call resonate which is basically like
um
playing action cards and then when you play
uh, like 15 action cards
You can put down
You ever played you even played mega man x2? I have
So do you remember the x hunters?
uh
violin agile and surge
Like I played x2 once
Okay in 1997
So, uh, there are these obscure ass enemies from the mega man x games and I remember them
Like really really well because I had I owned a cartridge of x2
um
And so though they were basically like these bosses that would appear not on
um
Their own stages, but they would be on the maps
Uh, and they would you'd fight them like in other people's like areas type of thing. They would should show up otherwise
um
so, uh
Sir sir, sir gay sir. Sir. Sir gay. Okay. Like yeah, uh, so
Those three basically end up being a uh, uh a card that you play at after you've
Done 15 of these things these like resonate moments. I get described you play
three super cards all at once
And they're ridiculously strong
And you can't really do much to fight them
And most players that know when you're in like that top 500 as soon as you play this card
They just quit the game
Hey, let me ask you a question
I mean you're describing this this card as being the shit
I remember in hearthstone. There was this period
In which the advice I got every single time I played the game was save up your dust
To get uh god. What the fuck was it professor boom?
Or something like that. Okay, forget the name. Okay, and it was like
What's the deal with that card? It's an every sink doctor boom. It's an every single fucking deck in the game
Because it's the best card
It's the best
Is teppin at that place where?
There are like five or ten cards or whatever that are like you get these and you win and if you don't have them you will lose
Uh, yeah, there's a handful um if you
There's there's a handful if you don't
Have a brainwashed card
Mm-hmm
Then you have to have a counter brainwashed strategy. There's a card called brainwashed
That uh, basically is i'm stealing that i'm stealing a card. I'm taking something from you
And if you don't have a counter ready, you just you lose whatever
So some people have strategies that involve making a super card that you can't really beat if you've fucking got no plan
Then it's a free steal. You know
um
Similarly, there's also one called um
Maverick's memories, which is uh, it's a zero card that nullifies any action
So these two actually go hand in hand. So yeah, so you need a you need an action nullifier or one of these things in place because
They fucking just snatch they take you they take your shit
Um, you need a plan for that. You know when you see it you need to know what to do
Uh
There are i'd say
I'd say there's probably like
10
extraordinarily pop popular cards
that like
That are different colors because you know each like deck has its own color
Uh each each character
You're going to see if you see a wesker you're going to see the best of the black decks cards
You know, you can expect to see these are those, you know, so yeah, it does happen
I
Imagine that sucks but also money
Yeah, exactly exactly
you know
So you're trying to you're hoping that uh, you're you get one of those from your fucking
Random ass gacha pack
When you when you when you draw something and if you do you're like, oh great. I can I can play now
I'm allowed to live was on the pc, dude
It's on your ipad
Yeah, like there are there are a significant amount of
games of this nature
that I have android clients and iphone clients and pc clients
and
I hate
That I can't play it on the pc because I would I would be way more likely to give it a shot on the pc
Than I would be on my phone because I fucking hate playing shit on my phone
What I streamed it. I played it by mirroring it to my desktop
Okay
So I I was playing it on my phone still
But uh, my screen was being shared with my desktop and then I just full screened it on on my tv
Now I'm seeing people say just emulate it
But what point is there to emulate a fucking game that you have to play online?
Like by yourself
I don't understand I don't know am I old is that what's happening?
My out-of-touch with the kids
You know if it ever did come to pc
PC players would be at a disadvantage. How so?
Um
Okay, so I've described how this is not purely a time game. Yeah, you're also dropping things at certain time periods
It's not it's it's not purely a turn-based game. There's time involved. There's attack lines that make a difference, right?
Because there's attack lines that make a difference when you see an attack line come from one card. Let's say, um
Uh, uh, uh fucking
Uh nightmare shows up and then it's got like it's got it's got 13 life 13 damage
That's massive because you have 30 hp in total right right and this this line gets to the end
And it's about to do damage the time to counter things
Is as close to the moment that it's about to hit
The enemy is possible right because you if you if you try to counter it midway through that line traveling
They have enough time to do bullshit. So let's say, um
I I go oh you're about to you're using your nightmare to attack me for a lot of damage
I'll just use that brainwashed card. I mentioned and I'll steal it from you
Um, if you do that midway through then I can you know, perhaps
Set up another thing or I have multiple ways to counter it
But if I do it the moment before it touches you
You have to have to have to have a counter immediately ready
Otherwise one fraction of a second later you're taking all this damage
So how would that mean that pc players have a disadvantage?
Because there are moments where I'm about to die
Right because someone has stopped time
The moment one frame before I'm about to get lethal
Like damage to kill to end the round
Yeah, right I have like five life left and they're about to hit me for six
And they've decided to stop me from doing any possible counter by like doing a uh a time stopping spell or whatever, right? Okay
um
So what I'm doing in on my phone is I'm literally
Hitting my super button
Like you have to drag it into the center of the screen. I'm dragging my finger
At such a ridiculous pace
That I have to land
This super that will kill the thing that's about to kill me
Before that line touches
Am I losing you?
I'm I'm I understand I'm just under I'm misunderstanding how pc players have a disadvantage
the mouse
clicking and dragging
To the middle of the screen unless they change the inputs directly
Unless they change the the inputs directly
um
The dragging the the the super into the the active point
Is going to be slower
Because you don't know the exact moment when it returns to active gameplay
Then it would be just literally spamming your finger over the corner of the screen
So if activating that seems wrong
Yeah, it's it's kind of silly. No, I mean it sounds like what you are saying is wrong
All right, I'm gonna try to I'm trying to move it to you because I don't know what you're talking about
Okay, so for those of you who don't know uh the game at all
Let me try to explain this in as much detail as I can to show you that I'm not being insane here
Because I'm gonna do what the book says where I have to do this
All right, so because because people play starcraft at like a hundred and eight like 3 000 a p.m
You have to know this game to understand my point if you don't know the game you will not understand my point
If all I had to do was put the mouse in the corner of the screen
And click
Mashing over the super button, right?
To activate it
We'd be fair. There'd be no problem because you would activate
The let's say you'd be activating in that one frame window that you have right that once you'd be activating it by mashing it
My finger can scrub the corner of the screen
From where the button is where the super button is I have to drag the card to the middle
I can scrub. Are you just are you just scrubbing it over and over and over over and over and over and over and over
And over again
I have to scrub and the scrub is is a click a hold a drag and a release
All many many many times per second
Okay, because the moment it right on a pc you are doing four things
You are clicking
Holding dragging and releasing
Yeah, and dropping you cannot do that with a mouse as fast as your finger can just rub rub rub rub rub rub rub rub rub rub rub rub rub rub rub rub rub rub rub rub rub rub rub
so
um
You can do it
But you're not gonna do it as good as someone on their finger would which is going to put you at an inherent disadvantage
To someone in a very quake on pc versus quake on dreamcast kind of way
That's the best I can explain this to you
This this is a bummer to pet
Because now because I just went through an entire thing of
I wish I could play it on pc and then people saying you can
Then me going I wish I could play it on pc and online and then people saying you can and then being explained
How that's a bad way to play it and now i'm like oh bummer
If they port it and change things so that you just have hotkeys
That'd be great
Right or literal like hit q to super
Uh hit q to super or hit space bar to super
um
You know or there could be like
Let's say
asd
Or like, um, I don't know whatever right you can have like
All the cards at the bottom that you can play and then you can have like the slots of one two and three
And then if you can chap like I don't like a one a two a three
you know
Uh d one d two just to put it in there right away
Maybe maybe or you can just click. I don't know what it would be hold on people are saying the blue stacks can set up
hotkeys
To literally hit hit button to super for mouse for mouse movement
No, like just smash like a button on your keyboard to do it
Uh
Okay in game though like an icon has to be grabbed and dropped into a space
Oh, you can you can macro all sorts of stupid shit if if the thing supports it
So so the macro is is emulating mouse movement then yeah, I would assume so
okay
Yeah, perper. Maybe I have no idea. We I've never seen this before just give me an official port man. Come on
Yeah, well, well, that's like like never mind this macro shit
Like if an official port happened and just made it so that there was button inputs or keyboard inputs
To do these things then you don't have to worry about all of this macro shit. Anyway, you know
um
That's that that would be the optimal situation, which is what I'm
I'm kind of describing
I'm in this weird place where it's like I wanted to like get into and play a card game for forever
But I started hardstone at a place where apparently it was very bad
And also I don't know how to make decks and then first stone became like laughably actually evil because blizzard
And then like oh, what about teppen and I'm like, I don't want to play it on my phone. I don't want to play on my phone
I I know
I think you'd enjoy the cap calmness of it, but I would I really would I like cap calm
But uh, you do you do have that issue you do have that issue
And it's uh, that's a hard one to get over and I think you know, I tried the gwent open
The gwent closed blade the closed blader. Thank you
closed I got into a million years ago and I was like, oh wow
I don't like gwent if I don't have a million more cards than the npc and the npc is stupid
Um
Does gungho port anything from mobile over to to desktop? I don't know
Uh, I I don't know either. Um to my knowledge. I don't think they do but maybe they have
You know, uh, I feel like uh, this is this is making the money for them on the phone
So they don't want to really leave the phone
You can buy things on a pc
Oh
Well, yeah, so that's what's up gungho does
Top 300 how high do you think you can possibly get realistically?
Uh, I think this I think I don't think I'm I personally I didn't expect I'd get this high
um
The highest I got to
this uh
279
I don't
No, I don't think I can hold it. Uh, I don't I definitely don't think I can get I think I can I think I
Hard to say man. I've beaten people in top 100
I've watched them rage quit
so
I could probably crack top 100 if I get some really good
rolls
I don't think I could ever crack top 10
because um
That requires like
Absolute understanding of every card that you're that they play against you
And I don't have that right
I'm still running my strategy and I'm vaguely familiar with their strategy in their deck
But there's usually a bunch of cards running that I don't recognize in in in a lot of cases
And I think the people who are in top 10 know every fucking card inside out
I would say so
so
Um, I also think that uh tell me to check out legends of rune terra
What the fuck is that?
Is that some kind of card nerd
For games for nerd. Oh god. It's the fucking riot one. Jesus
Why is it all god damn it? It's always league and riot every single new game
I
Swear to god. Yeah, I'm gonna die top the blizzard one because blizzard's assholes and I'm gonna go play the riot one instead
You want your desktop? There it is, bro. Yeah fucking Jesus christ
Yeah, um, yeah, I think uh
I think uh
What what what does happen though? What I do do is basically
when I get
absolutely
Annihilated by something. Yeah, just fucking shit wrecked like what happened
Completely lost as to what the fuck, right?
And this is how I this is how I think I managed to like step it up is
I run the replay of it because there's a replay side. There's a replay match
uh section of the game
And I screenshot their cards and then I go and I find that description straight up
dude
Yeah, yeah
Yeah, and and like because like you can pause them what the replay section is pretty awesome though
Because like they'll play a bunch of cards that you've never seen for example
And then you can pause it tap that card and read its full description of what it does
So I'll do that, right?
I will literally go and I'll be like, oh motherfucker. This is what you're doing
And like I'll be like, okay. I see your game plan now. This is what you did
You've created the deck that is all about this and I'll like in in one fucking case, dude
um, I got annihilated by someone who was just like placing these ridiculously strong camis on the board and
They just seem to be like like so hard to deal with and um
I found out that it was a it was a thing where it was like, yeah put the camis in expensive cards
You only get one per game
But if you put her in the graveyard and then resurrect her she comes back faster and cheaper
And then there's a bug
Where um, you can play like a sigma card that is basically like I forgot it's I think it's called malevolence
Where it kills an ally and then refreshes them
on the board
okay
And so you get for example
That whatever cami was at you get a refreshed version of it on the board that's been a full health and back to normal
But it also puts a copy of cami in the graveyard
Okay, so a card that should be one per deck can now be copied
By doing by by by killing it and refreshing it and then you can resurrect it three times and you go
Oh fuck you have three god cards instead of one
I I think
I'm seeing people like go. Ah bugs in in the chat because card game bugs are like a hilarious
like idea
Yeah
But like there used to be a form of bug
Expo real life card game, which is the guy you're playing doesn't know what the description means
Okay, and we'll argue with you that no, this is how the card really works
Okay, so yeah, yeah, it's it bug is there is I also bug is the wrong word to use there
What we're seeing what we're effectively seeing is like a game mechanic that plays out
Uh in a bullshit manner that's different from expected because
um
You would you would expect if you you're allowed to have one of these cards in your deck that killing it and refreshing it would just
Grab it from the graveyard
as opposed to
copy and paste
And then leaving a copy in the graveyard, you know
Uh, so it's a little bit of that going on. But anyway, anyway, that is that is what's happening right now
In this game and uh, yeah, it's it's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun, you know, um
So when are you gonna start playing magic?
I don't know is nero in it
No
Is it is it literally just that is it actually like
It's it's how it start
It's how it starts it's how it's funny because we make fun of people for that. Yeah, I know i'm it's super shallow
totally
Super shallow and bullshit
but
Because it's how it starts it you see the you know the midpoint here
Like it might not be possible for you because you play a lot of capcom games
But I feel like the middle of the road like the beginning is I like nero
And then the middle is like well
Nero's my favorite, but I'll play zero because zero is cool
And then the the point after that is
I'm playing teppen and I like teppen and I don't recognize a single character in my deck. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah
And then and then part four is well since I don't know anyone in my deck anyway
Right. What about this other card game? I'm currently on phase
Fuck you. I love the x hunters. What do you mean? I always love those bad guys those characters from x2
Violin agile and sergay. They're great. What what fuck you? I'm a huge fan
You didn't pronounce correctly because you've only said it like twice in your life
We worked in an office with a dude named sash, you know, yeah, I know I've known tons of dude's name surge
It's the natural. It's the the way I would pronounce it almost every time
Well serges, you know, but and in any case, yeah, fuck you. I like the x hunters. I've always offended the x hunters
Hey, there's a v in the deck and you get you get to bring out the animal party. So it's all good
It's when it's like when when you're running like your haunting ground deck
Is is the moment to start to worry?
Like it's nothing but haunting ground and fucking re1 and uh fucking
Book characters
That it's time to start worrying. Yeah. Yeah, if I know if I ever put together a deck with not a single card of a character
I care about
then
Gung-ho will have completed its mission
You know, I have fully transitioned into a
Like I don't even care about the cap comp part anymore
But for now I still do and that's the reason why you know
So I'm I'm I have been suckered
But yeah, um, I don't see them porting this anytime soon
Ah bummer
Maybe they will but hey, hey, I'm I'm currently fucking like, you know
I'm pretty strong globally at this game. So that feels good
I'm currently how many people play teppen
Well, I know that you don't start seeing your rank until you get top 10,000
Okay
So take that as you would
Because like top 300 is really impressive
Unless they're 305 people
Yeah, also top 300
In the beginning of the season means nothing. Oh, yeah. No, it's very different
Um, which is why the points matter, you know, if you see like I have a I have a I have a I have a
I have a point like where it's like, oh, yeah, I have like two or three battles one early on in the thing
I'm in the fucking top whatever and it's like no, that doesn't count. That doesn't matter. Yeah, rank reset is lit
rank reset is just like
I'm number one in the world for about 28 seconds
Yeah, so if I'm at yeah, like 389
Um is one thing
But like more importantly, you see that it's like, okay, I got 1841 points. Which means like, okay, no, you are
Building up a high point count as opposed to just the ranking because we're late season, you know, so
Yeah, at the very least I can say I can say I'm uh, I'm a
I feel like I'm a killer
I don't think I'm a I'm a winner, but I think I'm a killer right now if you fight me online. There's a good chance
You'll probably lose
But there's also a good chance I could lose too if I get some bullshit in my deck
Teppen's fun
um
Anyway, you know, I wish teppen was hearthstone. That's a weird statement
hmm
but like because
I played hearthstone and like they have the fancy cards and teppen has fancy cards and animations and runeterra
Has fancy cards and animations and it's like
I don't care about any of the fucking warcraft or league of legends care like who gives
But I I'd fucking flip my shit to see rathlos do a fucking spin kick
Rathlos is in there he's in there
It's not
Not that good, but he's there. He's king of the monsters, dude. Yeah, you know
Nergigante is more of a problem. Well, yeah, that's that's reality, but you know
Uh, anyway, so you can check all that out over at woolly versus on twitch and woolly versus on
well, youtube and um
Yeah, since the doc upon is up. We're gonna be cycling between
episodes of
doom and kotor for the next little bit plus, of course, we've got our get into fighting game stuff going on
And
Yeah, this week I want to try something a little different
I want to do something I've been waiting to do and the timing couldn't be better apparently, right?
It's like perfectly lines up. I've been meaning to do an episode of get into fighting games where we just focus on combo practice
and
like tightening up
You know your existing team choices and like just kind of like labbing, right?
So, uh, I wanted to do that with skull girls
for a while now and um
Also for a while, uh, Sharpie has wanted to play
So, uh, we're gonna fucking set it up. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do some we're gonna do a special labbing episode
Because I feel really dumb
Where I've still got my my day one team
Uh, uh
Combosed in my head for these characters, but skull girls has gone through so many
incredible fucking changes
And iterations that like I need to learn something decent with fucking big band and I need to learn something decent with beowulf
Because this is silly, you know, so uh, I I knew something decent with with big band like
Three years ago
That shit is either gone from my mind or gone from the game for sure. Hmm
Yeah, so, um
I think I'm gonna try to make it fun. I'm gonna try to make it
An interesting watch, but I'm I'm experimenting with this because it's something that I do want to do
Uh, if you find lab streams or if you find people
experimenting in the training room of something and and learning combos to be boring or shitty then, um,
You know, uh, I get it
I'm just giving it a shot. We haven't done anything like it. So I'm gonna see how this goes, you know
I'm gonna see how it go
and then I'll see yeah, I'm gonna get some games on the sharpie because, uh
She's been fucking pushing the skull girls train
Even when the coal
Is uh, is is run and dry
She'll get in there and push that train forward. So it's good stuff
Um, that game has gotten a massive update as of recent
um
tons of new, uh, uh
Mechanical changes like the the basically the the the the combo breaker update so to speak because
You know combo breaker didn't happen, but it wasn't aware that the update was that substantial
Oh, yeah, I thought it was just like a like, you know bug fix here there
Oh, no, no, no like the the sonic fox is like one detail
In of a humongous list of changes that the game went through
Um, it has all these little touches to the characters to the to the moves and such
New stages in from skull girls mobile. So, uh, so that's there
Uh, there's some colors and whatnot. And then of course, yeah
Uh, you got the training stage where uh, sonic fox is now in the background sometimes instead of, um,
I forgot the teacher's name
So that shit is red. Yeah, so
I'm like, yeah, people are mad about that. Well, you know, whatever. Fuck them. I mean at the end of the
Like at the end of the day, I'm like, I find it crazy that I exist in the background of this game
And the god of it does not
That was insane. So this is righting a wrong and we are now on the correct timeline
Because it they totally deserve to get in there
Skull girls is such a weird place. It's skull girls in k r than any of this one goofy place where it's like
I had I had like
written that game off as its time has passed
And due to circumstances, which I don't think anyone could have predicted not only is that game
It's time not passed, but it's going through like a sess a second renaissance if that makes any sense
You I mean in all mode, but the there's the thing
Right the kill sage will tell you it never died. Like it's been died
But like, you know petered out or whatever you would call it. No, here's what it is. Here's what it is
The mainstream spotlight
moved away
But nobody went anywhere
It stayed the same crowd stayed in place
The light was just no longer on them. So then when they made enough noise years later
That the fucking spotlight guy had to go wait. What's happening over here? Oh god, you're still here
Yeah, yeah
Launch party still going
you know, so um
I suppose the way I would ask is
not asked, but it's like
Fighting it how when the fuck the skull girls come out. Oh fucking
2000 release when they had come out it came out 2012
Holy shit, I would have said 13 than I thought
Um, so if this was third strike, this would be like a little bit before sf4's release, right?
1999 to 2009 sure. Yeah, so I think about this as like
If I was a young man
Who in the year 2007 was like should I get in a third strike?
The answer would be not unless you like to play with killers who've been playing for six seven years
Right. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. What's the status of skull girls on that?
Are there new kids or is it all colors? No, no, no, no, no, no. There are a lot of new kids, especially right now
Uh with the lockdown and search for real decent net play
You've got tons of people
Taking screenshots going. All right. I'm cracking it open thems fighting herds or skull girls or ki
Tons of new people jumping in and tons of people that played other games for a long time
switching over to play this because you can't get a decent fucking game of
these other
Things going and nobody can go to their meetups anymore
So that's what it is. Well, they didn't make any noise the world and evo had to literally be shut down for anyone to care
Yes, but also
But also and this is where it comes in now
Giant events like combo breaker
continued to be
massive
massive
like almost alternate evos
That would be all about skull girls and ki and these other games that were still being hugely supported by their scenes
so
Yes, but
If you just because you weren't paying attention to it doesn't mean it wasn't happening
You know what I mean? Like there was an absolutely healthy scene going on
uh for quite some time so
um
All this to say is that right now the the gigantic spotlight
Is now he back and it's here, but you've seen scenes
like of uh much smaller games
kind of like, you know
Fight to to to keep to stay healthy and to exist and uh skull girls was not one of those games
Skull girls had an active scene that kept it going across multiple events over the course of all these years
So anyway, um
But this is information that you want to
You know, you'd have to follow over the years to see the to see the journey so to speak if it didn't hit your peripheral
It doesn't mean it didn't happen
All this to say gonna try something out gonna try to get in and tighten up my my my my shit
This uh this thursday with getting to fighting games to see how it works out
And yeah fucking awesome sprite
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Oh
It's mike z in indivisible
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Uh
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I still
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Mm-hmm. Maybe I should maybe I should play some league over the weekend and like fuck
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And like they'll be there'll be the fighting game at some point and i'll be playing darious. I know i'll be playing darious
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Once upon a time I never played amoba now. I've played amoba specifically because zarya was in it
And then I got
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There's there's a real genius to
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Right. Yep with this fucking league shit
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Danoovo has been pulled from the pc version
Well, it will be anyway
Will be in fact it's not pulled yet the day after we talked about it. It was like, uh, yeah, that's complaining was enough
It certainly seemed to be
Which uh, is not a common occurrence from what I
Have heard usually they just fucking Danoovo it in up for a while
Right, so there was a there's a so the the the the core of it as they've said like listen
We're probably going to put it back in at some point
But we're definitely going to make uh, uh, it possible for you to play all your campaign shit without having to deal with it
Yeah, if you missed last week's podcast, we discussed that the doom pc version added a really shitty anti-cheat system to uh,
to to itself that is basically, um fucking
hitting your computer at a kernel level and should not be trusted because uh, fuck that
and
There's a lot of a lot of nobody bought this game
Uh with the knowledge that this would happen. So it was super uncool
There was a lot of goofiness in the announcement because they also went on to say it's like it was not Bethesda's idea to put it in
it was our idea was id's
um, and uh, Danoovo isn't what broke
The the linux port that was us. We screwed up something to do with VRAM
And all this stuff and some of those claims at least were uh, examined by independent people and discovered that
Yeah, no, this is a VRAM problem
or you know, whatever
but
Uh at the end of the day the instant that I saw that and there's even a weird part in it where they're like
Some people think that it is because we're not happy with Danoovo, but we're very happy with Danoovo
Danoovo is very effective and it's like
And it's just this massive thing of like
Even if you're telling me the truth
Your publisher and other developers have been so
Awful surrounding this kind of DRM garbage
that you will never get
A fair shake or like so this is on pass one
This is this is what sucks is that like, you know the inclination to give
The dev the benefit of the doubt when they're in the hands of a a shady publisher
A evil evil publisher
Yes
More than shady it's pitch black
um
Is is is like, you know, it it kind of disappears and it gets harder to fucking
It's a stomach whenever you you get this type of thing and then they come out and and and you know address it in this way and
I mean look man, um
You know it whether like
Is it possible that there is a off-screen sniper rifle pointed with a red dot?
totally
You know there isn't one is implied
But if there isn't and you know, I'm you you definitely know that, um
How do I put this you definitely know I I know what it's like when you're like
This is what it is and then everyone's like, yeah, I don't believe you and you're like, but I'm telling you
This is what it is and they're like, yeah, but we have a lot of reasons. It's not really believe you and you go
But it's like yeah guys like you should have known from
well before
Based on how denouva has gone down in the past with other games
uh
That like you'd be in for this kind of shit and I honestly
I would say that like, um
You would have absolved some of the impact if pc players
Knew about this upon purchase. Yeah
The secret release later is a fucking horseshit move
There's the element which is always funny because I've seen it a hundred times
And you're never able to get the truth ever
and it is
A developer comes out and says
Okay, this terrible decision
That looks like a publisher decision
Is on us is definitely not the publisher
It was totally us
and
Every time I see that I'm like, why even bother saying it?
No one will ever believe you because you're not allowed to say the opposite
Because the publisher will bring the hammer down on whoever the fuck is stupid enough to say it out loud if it is true
Right, so even if it is real the statement's pointless known. No one will ever believe you and they shouldn't
Well, I mean if it ever comes down to it the what the point is that the story was straightened out quote unquote
And for future reference if it ever comes up, it's like well, no, they came out and they said it
That was them it wasn't us, you know, so
That's what it was
The story has been straightened out
That's the point. That's the point of it. It's it's for the record
literally
that that anchor man
gift
Of uh, well fair. I'll smoke in that cigarette and just go and I don't believe you
Is is the most
Like clearly applicable statements to almost anything about any of this shit ever
Um, the reason why it's
Part of the reason why it's hard to believe is because all you have to do is look at the previous game they made
Yeah
And then look at this
The difference between that thing and this thing and the bloke and let's look at the other games that that publisher oversees
So there is a precedent here, but
If we take it at face value and say okay, so this was it and not Bethesda then
Like why would you make such a dumb decision? I you know, like how
How did the same people who made such a great great game
That ran really well
Also
Also make this decision
Hmm, I mean it's not possible people make stupid decisions all the time
Um, there was a thing this this week with uh, I don't know if you probably on uh on the docket at all
Because it wouldn't go through your radar and it barely went through mine
But the a terraria patch that came out that had some stupid bullshit in it
No didn't catch that so long and short of it is that one developer on the terraria patch on the terraria team
Decided to sneak in a massive change to the way drop rates work
Because he didn't like that people were using the wrong items in the wrong areas of the game
And made it so that if you weren't using the right torches in the right areas
Nothing would drop for you because he was like I put all these torches in the game people are going to use them goddamn it
Does sneak in imply that this was done without the approval of the rest of the team?
Nobody knew and it was rolled back within like 18 hours
Wow
Jesus christ dude
It was actually actually like one guy
Yeah, it's so what it's the lead developer it's still one guy
Wow
And as people are pointing out it was not even in the patch notes that that is snuck in
Um one guy can do a lot of damage
yeah
And I'll just point out terraria has been out for like a decade now
So and this is like it's it's ridiculous, but yeah people make stupid decisions even on their own babies
One guy can put
Creepy fart fetishes and children's cartoons
all right
Or literally I have no idea what you're talking about, but sure or self insert
Uh
Himself to date a power puff girl
Oh, there it is
There it is
You know
It's not great it's not great out there these streets streets are dangerous man
These streets are dangerous
Oh, wow speaking of people making stupid decisions with their babies
I literally just scrolled something passed on twitter in which a famous couple who named their baby some stupid stupid horseshit
Literally updated the baby's name to be slightly dumber
So yeah people make stupid decisions all the fucking time
De Nouveau out
Soon eventually
Um
And soon in the dlc
Doom guy will kill a cool demon and the demon will start to fart in his face and doom guy will be like
Uh
Speaking of killing demons did you see
The photo of gun priest versus the unbaptized
Yes, I did
I'm on board with it
I've discussed
The holy water firefighters before
We can we can get into this world where a priest loads up
a
Literal water gun with holy water and squirts the baby from six feet away
We were on this like three four years ago. I feel like yeah super ahead of the curve
Super ahead of the curve
Did you know that if you're a good catholic the way that baptism works
That if you fucking load up a super soaker with baptism water and spray random people
That counts as them being baptized and they're catholic forever now
That shit's crazy. Fuck. Yeah
Willingly or unwillingly
Again, if we could make it rain, you know, if you can hit up one of those, uh
Firefighting cloud seeders or whatever. Yeah. Yeah one of the or one of those firefighting helicopters
You know and just as long as the source is blessed
Everything it's fucking saved
Catholicism might be the only religion I can think of that you can literally
Turn to someone and touch them and go you're my religion now. No too bad
Or I kill you, you know, no take backsies. Nope. Don't take backsies. Of course not. Of course not. Yeah. No, no, no
I'm I'm like I've gotten into the like I'm a fan of of of any time
There's these little moments of like
Technicality that you can get through and get past anytime you can like bargain
With a deity, you know for what counts and what doesn't count
um, so whether we're talking about the uh, the the
The rope that covers
Areas of new york so that they're considered indoors so that uh, you don't break the shabbat
or whether we're talking about the um
The indulgences
Oh indulgences are so good that one may purchase to cover future sins
That's the greatest racket ever man. Uh, dude. It's strong. It's a strong hustle
um, it was maximum maximum
Maximum scam maximum hustle at the same time
It broke both bars. Oh, it's good. It's good
Um
Anyway and completely unrelated news
Uh, you guys there's a kickstarter going around for uh, vernal edge a character action pixel art platformer
You guys can check this out
If it's a vernal edge by matthew martinez if it suits your fancy you got some
Uh style meters going on. There's a demo available right now. It's currently at
uh
30 or 29 k canadian out of
69
Uh k canadian asked with 46 backers in 23 days to go. Oh, wow. It's like it looks like dishwasher
But with an art style that isn't complete total garbage
So, uh, there is uh, there's style meters
um
And uh, yeah, there's some some combo videos have been posted of some people doing some stylish stuff in this
So, uh, give it a give it a give it a peep give it a peep. See what you think scroll through it
There's some stuff
So, uh, yeah, that's vernal edge on kickstarter
Um, and the word character action is in fact in the descriptor looks good
Cool. That's a good word
cool cool
Now
um
On the discussion of
character action things
Bayonetta 3 has not been canceled
Even though it has been, uh
900 days
Since 900 days since news
And the news was a cg trailer that was nothing
Well, they announced it exists
You know like
How early is too early?
Okay, obviously that trailer was released too early
That's fairly clear
However
I think it's really weak ass shit
For uh them to be silent on something for three years
And the general assumption
Is that the game is canceled and all they have is like one of the devs. I think it was kimia
Going it's totally not canceled dumbasses
It's like give people a fucking screenshot, man
The fact that that's not associated with like a single detail whatsoever
Like I don't like okay, it's not canceled, but I also don't believe that it won't eventually be canceled
Yeah, we've talked about stuff like this in the past and I I tend to disagree with you guys there
Like I'm not the kind of person where like
There's a there's a countdown and it's like
You know
At a certain point
Like I guess it depends, but it's like after a certain amount of time of silence and you just go. Yeah, that doesn't exist anymore
Um, and I kind of I'm just like well what what like why wouldn't you just say? Oh, yeah, we're not doing that anymore or
like
If there's no symbol or any sign of like, you know the fucking
Project dissolving you see staffers leaving
There's usually these little things that people pay attention to where you'd see like oh wait what that person who was heading up
This game is no longer there then you can go. Oh, okay. We have some bad science here
This looks like it's not good
But if there's literally just like nothing going on then I'm just like, yeah
I mean there's probably just having a light at it with nothing to show the way that I usually interpret it that
Is that it's not canceled yet
But it will be
Because it's stuck in dev hell
What are you? Yeah, so dev hell is definitely a clean assumption
I would say whenever you hear a lot of silence for a
A pretty long period of time compared to normal games
um
You can definitely assume that like, you know, it's like can be a said things are going fine
So he came out and said like yeah games will be worked on. It's fine. You know, yeah, I can say all sorts of shit
Yeah
But you know the uh, I think it's I think when you see a long time without anything
It's it's a reasonable assumption that you're like, ooh
They must have hit a speed bump restarted somewhere or something else happened that slowed things down
The metro guys at least had the decency to be like, yeah, we had to restart dev
Or
Right and this is like the other way things uh, the other way things slowed down is
Things are fine. There are no problems
But the team had size had to change due to other projects
You know, there are times when it's like, yeah, we had to pull some people off to work on something else that needed
Urgent attention, you know, and it's like, you know, at no point did like this then
you know
Hit a problem, but it certainly slows down as a result of you know, it losing some horsepower. So
It could be that it could be, you know, like like platinum working on multiple things and just pulling people off
It could just be one of those like, uh, skeleton staff situations, but
You know, for whatever it's worth
Hideki camea says baos 3 is happening and it's fine
I'm sure they are working hard on it
But it the the fact that they have not shown off a single thing at all
Even a little makes me think that the game is in a fucked up state
I think, um, changing all over
I think the general
Like industry sort of not into an industry, but I guess more like the consumer
time period
of like
What what's going on is about three years
Yeah
Um, I think one of the funny examples of this
In terms of me being wrong
Is that back when I still listen to the giant bond cast there was an entire saga
In which people were like, yeah fortnite got canceled
Because fortnite got announced as that building game that was just like co-op and it was like fucking dead to the world for like four years
It was it was fucking gone and they had people writing into their podcast going like dude
I'm in the beta
the thing
Totally exists
They're just keeping it quiet, etc
Bro, but there was nothing there was absolutely nothing that was coming out
Titan man
like
blizzard and project titan
was just
one of the most dark things ever done in the entire history of video games and
To the degree that like even what we what came out of that is still not titan
Yeah, titan is what what taught me titan was the big one that taught me that's like
Don't trust the big secret game
That everyone says is oh, it's so
Titan was so tight also me off, dude
I had people that would tell me anything
And I would say titan and I knew they knew something about titan and they would look at me. I don't know what you're talking about
What's titan see the other thing about that is video card
Yeah, well one is you can't trust like the random shit, right because random shit fucking
It's not verified
And you can get caught up in a fucking wave of expectation that turns out to be a letdown when it never was confirmed to begin with
But then the other thing is
There's two lessons one. That's your first lesson from titan and then the second lesson you should get from titan is
uh, some companies
You know
will
Operate by announcing things and saying yeah, we're working on this and then they go. Yeah, we're out
And we got nothing to say until it's done
So okay, so i'm seeing people are like what the fuck are they talking about what's titan titan is what overwatch became
Uh, so I knew in the day and I mean way back. I want to say like 2010 or some shit
probably earlier
Some blizzard internal documentation leaked out which included a slide which is we're planning on this wow expansion
We're planning on this star craft expansion
But all hands on deck for the biggest game we've ever made
Titan and it had a projected release date
and
It then became confirmed that titan did exist. It was a real thing. It wasn't just off the slide
It's gonna be world of starcraft. So what the fuck is titan?
What is it?
It's it and it and it and the one piece of information that came out was that titan was going to be the mmo sequel
In spirit to world of warcraft which would have made it the biggest game ever
Yeah, at the time as wow was in its stride. Yeah, just killing it
So what was it damn some people might have been not alive
It was it was a lot of things. Yeah, and then they took the shooter element
And split it off and turned it into overwatch
Which is why the overwatch like heroes story and all that is such a fucking mess
Because it's literally one gameplay mode out of the giant mmo
And um
And there was a uh
Yeah, there was that and then there was a follow-up story that was kind of like
Uh overwatch exactly overwatch is taking the original titan idea that was going to have a whole
like superhero like alternate life kind of thing going on and
It just really paired it down to we're gonna make
A team-based hero shooter, you know, and and it simplified a massive world that was
Crazy detailed and stuff, but but what it showed, you know, obviously it was that like yeah, um
sometimes some projects just
You catch wind of it
Right and if especially if it's like the wind you catch is a leak as opposed to an official announcement
Yeah, then you're on an artificial clock and then you have to remember that
uh
Then you get stuff
that
is
So atlas is the worst at this by far
so like smt-5 was announced at the same time as
uh band at three
And alice hasn't even come out and confronted. I don't think they have literally ever said a single thing about that game ever
Yeah, about smt-5. Yeah. Yeah, and uh, I don't know if you remember what the original trailer for smt cross fire emblem was
Yeah, it was flying artwork
it was flying artwork
and
some dank music
and they
Definitely did not imply that it would be a fucking idol music game thing a they
Spiritual fusion of the that that goes in a completely different direction now. Yeah, um, but here's the other bit now, right?
Obviously for talking about all that
2012
You know what was announced in 2012
Cyberpunk
That's wow. Yeah
So cd proyacht doing things like that and just taking its time
You know here's the thing and then and then eventually they got to a point of like
Hey, now we can show it to people and talk about it
Which has been the last couple years, but like
2012 was when that was announced priak
I remember they announced that and then they said dude, we're not even done with witcher 3 yet
This thing hasn't even started dev. It's very far away and the overall
Reception was then why are you talking about it?
Yeah
Then what shut up?
so it you know if if if dev decides
Like announced projects so that people know what is happening, but shut the fuck up until you got something to show
I don't disagree with that philosophy. Um
You do have to play a game of like
You know
Expectations I suppose with with with people that are like huge fans that are going to be following
And listening to ear to the ground for any possible noise about something like bayonetta
You know and and obviously sometimes announcing things and being like yo, here it is. It's ready. It's super hot
You know, maybe there's behind the scenes things were like there was like
Hey, we want to make sure we can secure funding or whatever the fuck so
You know, you got to let people know in advance or investors know that hey, this project is being worked on all kinds of shit there
but
Yeah, yeah, I'd say about three years is is is the amount of time that like
Fans tend to give a thing of silent with silence before it's like hey, what the fuck like, you know
So, you know, it's a little earlier
But it gets it gets more of a pass
Um, we're coming up on the one-year anniversary
Of elton rain being announced. Hmm
Um
Alongside
Shit all
Yeah, like absolutely shit all bro beyond good and evil too, you know, and
Yeah, I know but and but elv every one's giving elton ring a pass
And so am I because I think we're in that weird intergenerational thing where it's like, I think it's to be assumed that that is a next gen title
Hmm also grim
Also grim is working on it
So, uh, oh, yeah metroid prime 4. That's true. Hey, you know, they they totally restarted development of that
half way through and told people which was nuts
if
Announcing a game is in development was just for the potential consumers to
get excited for product then
um
I think
We would see a much
different
Approach we'd see things that are a we'd see things resemble the movie industry a little bit more
Which is like, you know, you hear whispers about a project in early stages, but you never really get that hard confirmation
and then like
um, it starts
It starts being announced and it starts really rolling when like the marketing engine is is like
gearing up for launch. Um
I think that like
The fact that you have other ties and you have production costs and investors to deal with
Who need to know that like hey your company is
Worth keeping my money in and I want my returns and what are you doing nintendo and all that fucking horseshit?
We heard with with the uh, the old nintendo investor meetings
Means that like sometimes you're gonna catch announcements for things
That are weirdly aimed at them and not necessarily
You
So you got to keep that shit in mind as well
But yeah, I'm struggling against the urge to say something super crazy
Like like every time we talk about this it makes it like
Because like my internal mind wants to be like why did you lie to me? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
That's ridiculous. No, no, no
Like why are you stealing money from me? I'm like, I can't even just just like when you announce a game
Like they should put a clock on the wall of the studio
And when it hits 365 days with no news
The government should come in and cancel the game
Okay, yeah, okay, and be like you've you've wasted your you shouldn't have announced it
We're now burning all your files because that's your person to start over. That's your personal tolerance for it
That's that's how it's gotta go. You get one year
Yeah, so don't you dare tell me about it
On the 364th day you must show one screenshot. Don't you dare tell me about it until
Yeah
Dude, I don't think anything is more like just naturally gratifying and makes me want to buy a game more
Then hearing about it and seeing that it's cool and knowing that I can literally buy it
Right away a month like either that day or within a couple weeks
it it
perspective
Or a rather perception is a is a really magical thing. We talk about this every time
You know about how it's like it really is just like fucking crazy how
Um, someone can feel positively about something or negatively about something
Just based on when they found out the thing existed compared to when they get to touch it
So I think the ultimate and I remember I remember Matt and I like screaming about this for like two years on the podcast
Was like the doom event
Where they showed off doom 26 they showed off doom 2016 and it looked bad
Uh, and that was hilarious because prior to that they had shown that gameplay off to quake con
I think it was something but it was
No one it was hidden. Yeah, I remember that and and they were straight up coming out and being like
You are not allowed to look at it. No, you should have gone to quake con
And it was like this is the worst first impression I could have of your game
Because instead of going oh wow all the people at quake con said it was so cool. Oh gee. Oh wow
Right instead. I got oh man. This thing must suck ass
Which is not for you. It's not funny because the game is awesome
Yeah
But it wasn't for you. You weren't there
Yeah, so shit was like
Like what a terrible first impression
Yeah
Um in the meantime
like
Ninjala's like yo, hey check it out. It's ninjala. I'm like, well, what's that? Oh shit and try it out next month
I'm like fuck down. Let's do it. You know
Warframe is currently and has been for about a year and a half in a state of being fucked up
And they're starting to turn it around
But it's really nice that every week
They do a show and they're like, okay, we're working on this thing
It's a little fucked up and they'll show you like the fucking
Busted beta version of the thing they're working on
And they'll talk to you about what it's supposed to be
Yeah, that's cool. That's appreciated
I'm
Perhaps I'm just lucky that this is like my way of going about it, but it's like
I I
Like I just it I I'm excited for things that I know are coming
but I also
Kind of have a they sit in another
non realm
A non-reality realm of like well, this doesn't exist yet. It's not here
so
I only
Can put so much towards that in terms of thought and energy and excitement even
Because once it's out and it's here, then I'm like well now it's in my hands and I'm touching it
but
You know, this means that when I hear about bayo 3, I'm like cool. I would love another bayonetta game
And then I continue living my life
And when that bayo game comes I'm gonna have a great time
I'm gonna be excited that it's here
But I definitely am not gonna have an internal clock going down or it's gonna like
Fucking create a negative for me because I'm I'm just like well
Yeah, I'd love more bayonetta if I'm not playing bayonetta. I'd love more of another thing that I love
It's very slowly
Moved over to I mean, I'm not there yet
But my main thing is like
I mean the story is kimia goes on twitter and tells you that bayonetta 3 is definitely not cancelled and all I can think of is
If that's all you're gonna say then I don't want to hear anything from you at all
Right if you're gonna if you're gonna tell me that the game isn't cancelled so that you
Make want me to think that it's not then show me anything. Yeah
If he's getting it every day for the last three years, I can understand where the urge to say hey, it's it's totally
I can understand why he would answer that way
As you know, someone who gets asked things constantly and has you know, like it's like hey, let's try to
Nip this question in the bud so that I can make it go away for a while
The current reality I get I think of bayonetta 3 is that I've been
I've been talking to people and apparently there is a new engine
That platinum is working on that is a better engine that will hopefully port to pc a little better because holy shit
They're not good at it
um
And that bayo's alongside that which is what's holding it up if that was the case. Hey platinum. Why don't you be like
Hey, we're working on a new engine and do like a one of those videos
It's like hey, this is going to be the new platinum engine doesn't look shiny and not have anything from bayo in it
Right just be like oh working on more than you thought isn't that nice
Yeah, yeah, uh, if that's the new thing that's for their unique ip as well for their, um
Their fucking superhero ultra man thing and yeah, you know, it could be certainly
There are tons of infinite
There are infinite unknown reasons to explain why the timeline has worked out such
That this is the case
I think the one for maximum
excitement would have been one where
Right now people are still asking for a bayo 3, but there's no word about it
But then it would have been a frustrating like well, what the fuck give us more
What are we gonna do, you know, so there's that side of the coin I think I think they might be holding it off because
um
When they show off bayo 3
They need to have 10 cents approval to get you know
The trailer out that shows that bayo will also be joined by misfortune and jinx
and anri
in bayo 3 the league of of
witches
Legends get get will it witch it get bullet witch in there to bring her back. Yeah. Hey, um, I uh
Yeah, I feel as if well that yeah, so that I mean listen, let's we might as well segue right there because
Thank you. The next part of the story
is uh that 10 cent has been busy
And uh currently they are
Working with platinum games. We talked about that a little bit a while ago. So the other thing kid. Mia had to say was
Hey, here's our partnership with 10 cent in a nutshell
10 cent says we're going to help you with funds as per the contract
We will have no influence on the business
So use it freely to make a good platinum ip game platinum game says okay
10 cent says in return you if you do make a good game and you want to make a mobile game for it
Please prioritize us for its licensing platinum game says okay
That seems fine so far even though I don't believe parts of it
Um, I mean I would assume there's also the cut that you get for putting what I mean is that you can say
Clearly we promise not to influence you and then you sign the contract and the guy starts winking at you and nudging you in the ribs
well
I mean there's a difference between that and um
The south park episode banned in china where
Stands writing and like the general's leaning over his shoulder
And fucking chedding his lyrics as he goes. So I you know, there's there's two ways to play this
um
again
I listen
Every story we've told so far today on the news
I'm not a fan of
This is the story. This is what the developer says
I don't believe you
I fucking hate that. I know I it would be a lot easier if people in the business of business didn't lie
Constantly, I hear you. I hear you. I just I'm not as as oh it sucks
I'm I'm a lot more inclined. You know, I know that this is the the
Yeah, dumb knife woolly, but it's like I've also been on the inside of the industry
So like, you know, I'm not coming from out of nowhere. I can definitely tell you that there's a lot of times when
um
There there are times when yeah, people will lie constantly boldface
And just not bat an eye at it and there's other times when
You know, they'll be like, no, this is what happened and then someone's like, I don't believe you and you're like
Well, I don't know what else to say to you if you don't believe what I just told you but I just told you what happened
The problem is that like these companies are being viewed in terms of honesty or whatever as individuals and for individuals
Woolly if you were to say become woolly the liar and give me a big big important lie once
I'm never going to trust you again
right, so
When a company and I mean literally every company loves to do big lies
You can't trust any of them ever ever literally ever well, well, you see that's an over
exaggeration to make the point but
What I was going to say is that
What you have at all times is your track record
You know all you got in this life is your word and your balls
Well in this case your balls is your track record
yeah, so
this is what we can
make a guesstimation based on
And then you can also operate with like
um
Okay, if let's say it's like okay like like it's the it's the benefit of the doubt attitude where it's just like
I have my doubts, but let's pretend that this is what it is
Let's see if the future
um
Like proves what you're saying to be true
Or let's see if we're given more reasons
To think example capcom's a good untrustworthy that where capcom had a period of
Constantly fucking up and lying like crazy particularly around the cross-tech and shit
um
And then they had to spend multiple years totally nailing it to earn any good will back
And they did hmm meanwhile Bethesda
Fucking Bethesda
Yeah, or kanami christ
Right
Yeah
I mean look in jesus
When you know, I mean I
It sounds like kamea is just breaking it down as like frustrated and it's it sounds like he's bringing tired energy to his explanations
It does sound like that as opposed to bringing like
Um massage the truth
Masha's the situation to sound nicer energy
You know, um is very much a stop asking me about this shit. This is what it is fuck off
kind of energy which he consistently displays elsewhere
um
So
You know, uh, but but yeah, that's all it just it just occurred to me
I'm just like yeah every fucking story so far. I'm just like, okay
This is what it says and then here comes the like they're a lot like
To quote some guy in some song that I don't know
Why you always lie in
Why
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Hey 10 cent had other things going on
So you know what the funniest thing is
When you were talking earlier about like the news and you were like, I hate how everything I thought you were gonna say
Technically has 10 cents fingers in it. Yeah, but instead you had a different direction. I did but we're not done
Here we go
Marvelous enters into capital business alliance with 10 cent subsidiary
In alliance with image frame investment limited a wholly owned subsidiary of chinese conglomerate 10 cent holdings
image frame
Image frame investment would spell about 7 billion yen to buy a 20 stake in the company
And marvelous will use the funding to develop its existing intellectual property such as a story of seasons into stronger brands
As well as to launch new properties such as daemon x machina
at a global level over the next three years
They are spreading out and getting involved in everything that will have them
And
10 cents genius
And it's not because they're just they ain't stupid standing and shit, right?
Mm-hmm
The chinese market for a while was seen as like a gold rush
Right. Mm-hmm
And 10 cent got really big off the explosion of like the chinese middle class and the gold rush in terms of online gaming
Well the embracing of of uh capitalist communism and right exactly the expanding however, just like reta not retail just like um
What's the land? Right
uh, what happens well
companies and individuals with tons of money
in a
country where that money can be fluid and fucked with
By the government you gotta get that money out
So you end up with weird shit like uh, you know like half of all condos in vancouver are bought by people who just want to get money out of china
Just get it out. Yeah
Right, right. Um, and also 10 cent is
Either state operated or partially owned or it's it's it's it's it's ccp. It's like huawei. It's like it's ccp, right? Yeah
so
You get in the situation where it's like well 10 cent for money wise like just straight up. Hey, let's make some dollars
You can't rely on the chinese gaming industry because i mean shit take a look at uh
Christ a couple weeks ago. I don't think we even talked about it
Where china after the the hong kong shit was like, you know what?
No talking online in video games
nah
Stop that just shut the fuck up. Yeah. Yeah, right? Yeah, and then they've had moments where like certain
Certain games or companies or genres or whatever just go not not allowed anymore
Not allowed just shut up
Right, that's a terrible
thing to operate a business on
Right when they could just go nah
You're not doing that anymore, and you're like really they're like not you're not so i mean that that money out
That umbrella momentum got got fucking
combo broken
by a pandemic
you know, so
China's like
fucking
shadow counter
so
Hey, how about we invest in countries in which combo sorry we invest in companies that are in countries that
Their government won't shut down their businesses
well
so uh marvellous is now
Uh in there and i was going to say
You know or i would have said i was like hey
Seems like as you said ten cents not dumb
And they're getting their fingers in all the pies
And they are getting heavily involved with all of these japanese companies
To to to get a cut of whatever they're doing right
Japan's got a big games business. Why don't we get a cut of their business?
And it's like wow they're getting involved and they're they're they're
Mixing it up with all these japanese games companies and that's about all they're doing
But wait hey also involved but wait
There's more s and s and k is bought by
Uh a different company
But yeah, but it's a chinese company that that yes
um
Because the thing is tencent also has subsidiaries that like have multiple names. So sometimes you have to you have to track it back
But wait, there's more
System shock three dot com
Now owned by tencent
According to
Uh vgc a web domain ownership switch
From other side entertainment the developer
Has now switched over
To tencent
So okay system shock three and system shock four dot com
Are owned
By tencent
What does that mean?
But well
They got you what willy they got the web site long. I don't know how long you've been following this shit
but
System shock and the question of who the fuck owned system shock. Yeah has been like the
dumbest series of questions and answers for decades
It's
Well like at one point it it came out when gog was trying to re-release the game on fucking uh
On gog. It's like. Oh, yeah some
british insurance
Capital like some venture capitalist asshole. They picked it up when the old company fell apart and they just
Grabbed it. It was like everything's fucking so stupid
Whatever the shock is so stupid. Well, whatever the case may be with this website
I severely doubt that tencent was just squatting and then said, oh, we'll grab it. They're not using it
Take that domain
From the devs
Uh
Ten cents in there man
They're about to
Yeah, they're about to fucking take a piece of the pie man on all continents at this rate
You know there's a there's a calypso song that goes sent five sent ten sent dollar
So
Was that what it was about?
Yeah, and then you thrust your hips out in a different direction
For each lyric
So it'd be like sent five sent ten sent dollar
And then you get to the chorus and it'd be like dollar dollar dollar dollar, and then you're like doing the big air hump
So does this mean show dan will show up in league of legends
Because that would be cool
Um and all your other favorite, um
Tencent properties
Man, no like you can't get
an investor
becoming
The six degrees of separation that bridges the universes
Like you can definitely expect to see
You know fucking fit crossovers in like fate
Grand order and and little promotional bits here and there. Oh bayonetta and dante both showed up in uh, whatever the fuck
but
Ah
To go full on smash brothers with it
Well one they own all of it, which is about a couple weeks from now
Yeah, just do it
You know
The rock just told the arochi to fuck off. I I don't know what kind of yeah
Yeah, never mind shingo is now canonically trained how to use the power of flames underneath john sena never mind
Literally, I take it all back
The undertakers music plays and scares
uh
Whoever the fuck it was athena
And and and and terry
You know like yeah, fuck it never mind never mind
Changa changin choy and kim's team. That's it. I just like
It it yeah
The rock told the arochi to fuck off
Of course
He doesn't care what his name is. Of course
It's all coming together
Um
Any other 10 cent news no we can move off we can move off of it for now
We can talk about um games that you know take a long time to develop
By addressing the announcement that
Sega will be putting sonic the hedgehog games into longer dev cycles
For quality reasons it is astonishing that we're hearing about this now and not 13 and a half years ago
So
Astonishing the last time I heard an announcement like this
It was when the king of fighters
Said you know what we're not doing this annual thing anymore
We're gonna start making them good games that come out when they're ready
And then they became really good games that came out when they were ready
You know give or take one
Last last I heard that was ubisoft with uh the assassin's
There's another one. It was associated by a enormous jumping quality
We had to hold our logs in for greater log length. Wow. Uh, right. I'm I'm I'm
I'm kind of astonished that like
Yeah, after all of this time
After all of these fucking absolute stinkers
That you would even bother this this late
And not just like what like why like why even bother saying that?
Yeah, it's it's as opposed to just just making the good games and then going hey look we did some good games now
It's it's especially
Baffling because like, you know what a way better announcement would have been
It would have been like hey, we the sonic mania too
We've actually decided to have shorter dev cycles
And uh fire everyone at sega involved in team sonic and just give it to christian whitehead and the sonic mania team
Oh, yeah, okay. There you go. There you go. Yeah forever
Yeah
um
it's it's it's
You know, it's it's like one of those things. It's like nice to know
but
Like you're doing this on
the fucking
You know 30th or 40th attempt at this point
and
uh
I don't know what it means to be a sonic fad at this point in life
I'm a sonic fan. Are you are you sure?
Yeah, there's some really good sonic games. It's just the like they're like
Actual three or four or five bad sonic games per good one. It doesn't sound like you're sure
Maybe six bad ones per good one
Sonic
Two three knuckles mania
Maybe cd probably cd. I just haven't played it spin balls. All right
Uh
I'm just gonna you're just gonna you're just gonna drop trial and shit on rush like that
But rush is all right. Yeah
Does rush have a sequel?
There was a rush too
I didn't hear about it, but I assume that one was all right
Wasn't there?
Yeah
Mean being machines pretty okay
Generations is by far the best of all of the 3d ones
Sonic is suffering
But man, there are some bad ones and when they're bad they're fucking bad, dude
Sonic is suffering
To be a sonic fan is suffering
Sonic the hedgehog is suffering
And uh
Yeah, I I don't
Really know what to make of this kind of announcement except
To say you should probably just put your head down and make the next good game
And then put it out and then people will go good
And then make some money and then you make the next one because that's how this go
Or alternatively you can
Just
Give it to the fans
Who are still making
Incredible projects and games amongst themselves. Hey, well, what's the name of that sonic game that you played?
Uh robo blast 2
okay, so
of the of the
sonic fan games
That I have personally encountered
Two are good
I have seen two
That's a 100 hit rate
You know what the best sonic fan game is?
What's that mania?
Yeah, that was the second one
Oh sonic dreams collection as well. Yes, so that's three for three. That's three for three
Give it to them and sonic dreams is like
Unrecognizable in terms of like sonic gameplay and it's still great
Um
This is the case when back in the day every year there used to be a new sonic game and as a result of that
there are a number of times because
That because of the rushed production schedule the quality of the games wouldn't quite
Be where they needed to be so a couple of years ago. We actually said hey, that's going to change
We're going to put time into things that's going to mean you have to wait longer between trailers and announcements and stuff
And we know that's kind of annoying sometimes
Really excited for what's to come but we can't say anything so thank you for being patient as soon as we have news to share with you
We'll share it with you
Sock oh six had two years of dev time
So
So I assume they mean sonic games will now have three years of dev time
So sonic should have been doing what bayo 3 is doing and bayo 3 should have been doing what sonic is doing
Yeah, yeah
Holy shit. I'm on the wiki for sonic 06
In
2010 sega d listed sonic the hedgehog from retailers
Following its decision to remove all sonic games with below average metacritic scores to increase the value of the brand
Its failure led to a rethinking of the series direction
Yeah, that worked out great
Also people's memories can't be delisted dumb
Sonic is suffering
You can't you can't tear the memory of sonic 06 out of people's minds suffering is sonic
That's so stupid. Oh my god
I
That's insane you can't undo sonic trying to bang that human girl. What's her name at least?
What a oh boy, um
Um
All right, you have two paths to choose every sonic on a every sonic game from now on
Canonically continues the trajectory set by sonic 06
Okay, okay
like story wise or like
yes
okay
or
every sonic game
is
from now on classic style 2d
But it runs on the sonic 4 engine with the same jump
Can I get an option c commit suicide no
All right. Well
I mean, you know, we're both of these i'm gonna go with 06
Both of these forks end in your untimely death, but I would rather see the
I would rather see the ugliest most horrific monster in the world
Rather than a slightly less horrible monster puppeting the skin of a loved one
No shin megami tense for you. No, okay
The correct choice was death
Well, I tried that and you didn't let me it was not allowed. That's correct
The safety net was deployed
From the top of the fox con building and you're now being shoveled back
Into your fucking
Damn it into your decision. Damn it
um
Yeah
Because if they went like but also if they went like hard trash
Like that'd be fun in its own way. Well, yeah, but would they ever have the you know the awareness?
And the balls to tank the like what if like what as hard as possible gave birth to like a
Hedgehog human homunculus
I'm
shocked that an attempt to make a game in the movie world was not capitalized upon
Astonishing isn't it?
After didn't didn't even try after sonic boom
came and
Existed in both game and and show form. It's crazy that they didn't even try didn't even try
And the movie was good
like
Like it's not the best movie in the world, but like yeah, so that's a good
fun movie
They could have totally had a really good movie tie-in
So then in the in the future when you do the future version of forces
where you basically do
You do the the the forever red of sonics and you can get boom movie
adventure and fat
all together
You can get idw comic
And archie comic
You can get the pixel sonic from uh, super mario brosie
all of them
Everybody all the warriors
And then that really god damn it play god damn it
And then that really creepy photoshopped
plague of gripes coming in
To say that at least you have to feed our six hedgehog babies with your multiple teats three have already died
Hey, where do you fall on the sonic blinking preference?
What do you mean? Do you want the eyebrow shape to flatten?
Do you want the eye shape to flatten or do you want there to be a secret flesh lid?
That comes in. I'm fine with the internal lid the internal lid
Yeah
I I used to be
um not
On board with that and now that I've had a cat for multiple years and have discovered that cats have an internal eyelid
I'm it's like oh, okay
The the mania animations sold me on the uh
The the full shape
The um the the eye the eye shape flattening that everything's just be like mania. I'm I'm just gonna listen to that
Because that's good
Isn't it isn't it wild that like
The design of the character is such that like we have to discuss
The fucking mono eye and the weirdness of how this creature even exists
Because it only was meant to be seen from one angle
Don't worry about it. It's like when Homer turned his head to look at you and you're like, uh,
Okay, I guess that's how that looks now
Oh, yeah, straight on straight on simpsons characters. God damn awful never meant to be seen never meant to be seen
But they had to do it
Don't want to do it
Don't like it
Okay, um
Rumor rumor rumor mill churn
Capcom reportedly read working on code Veronica
It's unconfirmed it's a rumor take it with a grain of salt
Says it probably won't be arriving anytime soon, but they might be going that way
Okay
Who knows
My people shit
My not people. I'm gonna really carefully say that
If that were to happen, I would be legitimately really surprised
Okay, we'll leave it there as the other
Capcom rumor mills such as four or eight. I was not surprised at all
Hmm
Yeah
We are um
Yeah, we could it could go either way I
Would
personally
It would be interesting. I mean it's been touched we touched on this a little bit before but it'd be interesting to see them going through and correcting
All the things you said were bad about
CV's crazy because like I
They would have to like redo the whole thing from top to bottom because like not even the the locations are
interesting
So like, you know how in in the other ones it's like, oh, hey, it's that cool area. It's that cool room, you know stuff like that
It's fucking
Top to bottom scrap it the best thing
About cv is it's terrible story
Because it's crazy
It's so fucking weird
Um, but you do that, but I mean anything can be touched up
Yeah
Like the re3 already set the precedent for like, uh, let's just just do a whole new game in the same area technically
Yeah, so if they did that it could work, but
Also four is guaranteed money
gangbusters. Yeah, yeah
Yeah, three is a little bit less than that, but it's still money
You know
I feel so bad for the people working on four
Because man, that's a lot of pressure
That is a lot like
It is it is but you know the template has been established
Expectations and one not as successful
Made in a shorter period of time
Much shorter period. Yeah, give it the time
You know
But the expectations I I bet the fact that we were we're hearing little snippets of rumors about four
But like shit about eight is just coming out
Well, what I would four is very far
Well, that what I was going to say is that like whatever the fuck that team is up to
Right, like if anything the real sweat is probably on the the village people
Who are like, you know, we got to fucking bring it
With a whole new entry
After seven
Um
And and you know, they're they're paving the the pathway forward
While the team that's working on the remakes is trying to erase history
A couple games back, you know, who will catch up to whom?
Can we rewrite time by the time you create new history? You're working on a dead timeline
I have a sneaking suspicion
That catcom's gonna do them all
All the numbered
Like five and six two
Do you think and
If I were inside that office
I would say to myself
You know, it would be really cool
If we put out a resident evil five that was resident evil five version one that wasn't co-op
And had the god hand stuff in it
That would be fucking cool
Do you think um
The the the vibe is weird when we
Hard cut to like 10 years from now when we literally have two resident evil teams
that
Are literally just one team is creating
And continuing to stretch a dead universe as the other is catching up and trying to redo everything
So hey
Here here's when it's hey
Here's when it's gonna get super weird. Hmm
So say they say they replace re six
remake it make it shorter and gooder
And then we're at re like nine or ten. All right with the new stuff
And then discussion is like
Are are they gonna do seven? Well, that's what I mean
So that's what I'm saying. Exactly. So the team the team that just made seven
looking back going wait, but
Wait, no wait
And you know that the future team the current timeline team
Is tony jaw climbing the the raid tower and the fucking machete squad
Come and killin everyone behind him is the remake team just massacring all that is left behind
But here's where it's gonna get really wild right because that's the question one
Like gosh, we do seven and then somebody puts their hand up and goes no
Let's do one again
Right sure
And it's like wait guys guys guys
Dude
No, I would I would love I would love the remake team
To finish six and start seven and then the the team that's working on
11 is like stop. What are you doing and capcom is like we can't stop them
They will catch up
Reconvergence must occur
The development of the remake series went from a miracle to dude. Are you just gonna completely redo 15 years of development history?
We
We will consume all and cleanse the timeline
because like, uh, there's an in re uh, re two wait re one two three
and uh cvx
As well as umbrella chronicles are all like we have to take down umbrella
And in umbrella chronicles they take down umbrella, which is a weird side game that the single most important thing in the series happens in
And so it's like is there gonna be like
Resident Evil
Umbrella chronicles is that gonna get it the only one has a real game
The only rest
That the original team has is the little stop gaps like code Veronica
And and and all the other side games where the remake team has to stop and go deal with that shit
Otherwise they will pursue
There's a lot of side games to sell them down. They will pursue with the absolute
relentless
Fucking demon energy to rewrite reality. They're coming not unlike mr. X
They're coming but a side game will distract them for a minute to be like fuck. Okay. We got to go do code for onica
And it's like, okay, we can breathe for a minute. We can make a break for it. Let's go
Let's get another two games ahead if we can't
so
They did they had a dev interview re3 a little bit ago. Yeah that really shows off their
Desire to really really get this ball rolling
which is
When I was playing re3 remake
So nemesis is a tyrant that has a weird parasite in it
And when you get into one of his boss fights and you shoot him a bunch
A super gross lust plaga style parasite comes out which never happened in the original
Mm-hmm
And I was like that looks like a fucking lust plagus and then in an interview they're like
Yeah, we really thought it would be cool if the the ne alpha parasite was actually
umbrella frances
Attempt to create a synthetic form of the lust plagus parasite that they found in europe and like oh, they're totally just
They're they're putting like a really strong through line
So that when you get to re4 you can explain why the enemies work like this and which is an improvement as a retcon
Kind of I don't know as somebody who makes it a little less out of nowhere story lines. They're terrible
Yeah, super awful. It makes it a little less out of nowhere
Which kind of sucks though because like re4's best thing was that it was out of nowhere
That it was not a zombie right
Um
But yeah rumors
And lastly, let us just give a quick heads up and shout out that on june 9th
Fight on the killer instinct story will be released
Uh, which is the k.i documentary that hold incredible timing hold back to block has been working on
So estaban's out there. He put out a trailer today. You can check it out. What a great name
What a fucking great name, dude
Solid fight block dude
No, no, no not hold back to block the name of the that's also fantastic. It's a great name. It's a great name
Yeah, but the document the unnamed on the unnamed k.i documentary now has a name and the name is fight on
Which is what the announcer says in the game when you're about to
match fight
But it also is like, you know, you can you're still alive. You're fighting on so it implies that you're yeah, it's good
It's good. Perfect timing. Like you said, perfect timing
Um
Fgc karma is coming true in 2020
It's nice
Shall we read some letters? Yeah, let's read some letters
as
Uh
As uh, what do you call it?
Nicholas pickless would say it's letter time. It's letter time. Okay
Dear castle super beasts. Well, they do you want to talk about this knight or cut shit dear of castle super beasts?
Thank you
Why are people convinced that
A new cut of a movie
By by the maker
of
batman v superman
And fucking sucker punch will suddenly somehow be a good movie
Because they're dc fanboys
I guess
Who
Would yell that the movie's great. It's great. You're just stupid
But also the only reason the movie sucks is because the studio ruined it
I
Joss we didn't take it joss we didn't took over and and and yeah, clearly
Clearly so I reshoots with different actors is what I caught
I I have two things to say about the Snyder cut one that movie sucks
And I don't think an extra hour of footage can save it because it sucks
And two
The release the Snyder cut shit was always hilarious and it's double hilarious now
Because when they're like, okay, we're gonna release the Snyder cut with big air quotes
It comes with a caveat of after we film it because the cut never existed exactly exactly
you know what I like like this sad part about this is um
Release the Snyder cut is a bigger meme than the actual groundswell of any of their movies
Perhaps with the exception of wonder woman one
So which was apparently quite good for the first two-thirds
so, um
Excellent movie if you walk out at
If you walk out, I know what you're talking about and I thought it was two hour and maybe I don't know like at the
One hour and 45 minute marker or whatever like there is a walkout point where if you leave the theater now
This movie is awesome
Anyway
so so
The release the Snyder cut is a bigger meme than anything else going on
Right like that and clips of the Harley Quinn cartoon are currently all they've got going on. So
You know, uh, why not embrace it by literally quote-unquote releasing the Snyder cut by filming it with different actors
And then maybe you get a shot at a
You know capitalizing on what's going on there. I don't know. I don't know
You know
You're right. Shazam was okay, but no one's talking about Shazam. It was one of those sleeper hits, you know, it was uh
It was it was a
Breath in the wind like it just
Oh, that's uh, and there it went. Yeah
Yep, which that's what it's meant to be. It's fucking Shazam
You know, but anyway, I don't even want to fucking go it like enough
Shit's garbage. Why are we even you know
fully your marvel bias is showing my marvel bias is showing it's 2020 it's current year
And we're still talking about
I think
That saying that is really funny. Yeah, I think people accusing me of a marvel bias when I hate comic book
Might be my favorite thing ever
Yeah
I hate comic books. The only thing I hate more than comic books is superman
My trash movie bias is showing but that's because we have to kill him
I
Think I like Lex Luthor more than anything marvels got
I was waiting for you to respond to that because I am sure you saw that post of Lex
Seeing superman is evil and probably identified. Yeah
That's what superman looks like. Yeah
What you guys don't see that
He actually does gotta go he actually does like I talked about it a week or two ago
But in kingdom come where he actually looks that fucking evil for a moment, but
um
The of course it's like hey, which version of lex are you talking about right?
We're not to get not not to get into it, but depends on who takes the
The whoever takes the stab at it will come up with like lex is a misunderstood character
um
He's really just and then it's like insert your
Your reason it's like my favorite version of lex is the guy who says if not for superman
I could save the world and soups responds with dude. You could have done that already if you cared, right?
There's that version. Yeah, there's the version. There's the version where it's like
Oh, he would he is a good person. He just doesn't trust the the gods
You know no, that's no exactly
Well, that's
That he's a prideful spiteful bitch
Yeah, he thinks he would be a hero if he wasn't if the the the obsession of his pride wasn't there
And then you know, and then you've got your your your fucking
Your smallville version, you know, so
Where did superman make him bald in that?
probably probably
like
I feel I feel like in my brain after fucking like 85 seasons of smallville
For some reason I keep thinking about it like the arm in hot tub time machine
Where there were multiple episodes where lex had hair and then there was a a moment of accidental
Maybe oops, he might lose it all
You know, I feel like I feel like people are saying that yes, superman
Yeah, they got got made bald and like oh, there's an origin. I feel like I lost my hair
I'ma get you I feel like a series and like like smallville was a series of close calls
Where lex gets his hair slightly burnt a little bit more each time
That's all I fucking
A superman flies by and and his his toupee falls off and he's like ah superman
And that's it dude
I like
The fucking I'll tell you what though. I'll be real, you know, everybody like all this
You know what dc has a fucking almost like unassailable market on
That know that they refuse to do ever give me a fucking golden age
batman superman movie
Where they're like jimmy olsen and aquaman are fucking dying in the desert
And batman and superman have the water and they're pouring it into the sand
And they're they're they lowest is in space and superman is like snapping her air supply super dickery so that oh no
Super dickery
Yeah, you those would be great. You're looking for super dickery
I'm looking. Yeah, would that come on?
That'd be great
um
That's silver age. Okay, I'm not super familiar, but yeah, you know, do it do it
Henry Cavill is there looking at like black lois lane walk out of the the machine
I mean like
The way to roll with it would be to like put it somehow within
Something like the harley quinn animated show where they just don't give a shit
No, I want live action. I want a big budget big budget. Okay. Okay
Well
I mean you could always you could always uh, uh, uh, you know
Replace um
fucking
The ruby rose batwoman
serious
This is a bit off off off topic, but did you see everybody hating on robert paterson because he doesn't want to work out
No, I didn't see that
So robert paterson is going to be batman
And the movie studio and his personal trainer is like dude, you got to work out for the batman and he's like, I don't want to
You can't make me
I didn't hear that
And people are super super mad at him
And somebody pointed out that it's like, yeah, robert paterson is going to be the worst batman ever
By portraying a self by becoming a self-absorbed eccentric millionaire hiding in his mansion
Did uh, what a what a terrible batman that that actor would make did you hear about the um the batwoman show?
I did not well. There's a batwoman show
starring ruby rose
It finished the season
And then they're like, how about more seasons and then she was like nah
I'm good
And she just and she just fucking pieced
And they're like, okay. Well, we're we're looking to replace our batwoman
Because she's gone
She just pieced out
Wow, DC's killing it walked off this walked off the set like teahawk
You know in the fucking live action street fighter. Apparently she almost died during the show
Well, there you go
Good reason
Good reason pieced the fuck out
Yep, yeah
So almost dying then
Not just the performance and the actual quality of the show itself
All right. Well, also if you're gonna almost die it better be for a good show
It's not quite uh kill bill you're filming here
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Aaron says dear super capsule
Big castle super beast premium membership event past plus here. I'm currently going through soul calibers
fours, uh, uh, excuse me sixes libra of souls mode and I have come up with a side mission
Uh, that's supposed to help you level up your character or rather. I've come to a side mission help you to help you level up your character
Um, I've been met with nothing but rage. It's been I've broken down
Uh
As to even using a mercenary which is an AI controlled character that'll fight till they die
I've noticed that during two NPC fights the enemy NPC is significantly less aggressive and hard-hitting
Um, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's super frustrating. Um
I've never been into the fighting game scene, uh, but I
I'm not exactly the best at them, but I still enjoy playing if they have a story mode and some kind of
Customization or such but this mission reminds me of why I never got into fighting games
Especially soul calibers since I've always had a hard time understanding what I'm doing even with practice
So my question is what's a series or genre you undeniably get frustrated at on some sort of level
But find enough enjoyment to make you continue playing even with the bullshit done your way
Uh warzone slash battle royale is a really good example
Because uh, I get super pissed at that and I also sweat when I play battle royale games and it sucks
But it's fun
I don't have what it takes to handle a
Uh high apm rts game
It's not within me
uh
but
I I love the idea
you know, I
The the reason why I know anything about starcraft and went through that campaign and you know back in the day
Was because I thought it was fucking rad. Uh, but boy am I not great at
Unit mouse controlling
stuff
Ex exceptionally poor at that
I mean fuck first person shooters too. Really when you think about I mean, and I'm only I think the
Funniest thing in the world about that is that that is an incredibly common sentiment. Hmm, which led to
Hey, you know, it'd be a lot easier controlling just one character. Just one guy. Yeah. Yeah, but they introduced that first by saying
Control one guy as the leader of this your party while you continue to play this rts
Yeah, warcraft 3 heroes, which ironically enough led to a
Genre that has way more frustration in it. Hmm
Yeah
Um warcraft 3 was the beginning of the end for me when I just realized I was in over my head
Dude, I think warcraft 3 is tons of fun
But I find like controlling the hero and the units to be impossible. I couldn't it broke me it broke me on the genre
And it was also the realization that like
This though is
You know genres get more complex as you go
So this is where people that are like playing these games are taking it
You know, and I'm like, yeah, I fucking
That that that's the that's the hyper fighting like that's the marvel, you know
That left me in the dust of rts games for sure
Um, it was it was it was a rough time on my brain
um
I like I can I love turn based though
You know like one of the I'm a I'm a fucking scrub. So when the when the pressure's off I can I'll eat up some some
Fucking into the breach and and and some fallen haven and you know, that's that's
It's partial partially what's why I love it to the breach and and and and um
Uh front mission and fucking uh
The advance wars and shit like that like a ton, you know
Way way better at dealing with that
We got plague coming in with an assist to say that there are two types of rts players real players and quotes who micro
And base builders who like pretty bases and big armies. It's why the genre has fallen apart
I think he's dead on with that considering we have mobas now, which is all micro
And I've been playing fucking total war over the past week, which is all big armies
And you could pause the game if you want a micro
Hey
speaking of um, you know
like
Like like minimizing the the the focus
You ever you ever play um commandos?
Yes, I played commandos one on a demo disc back in like 96. Wasn't that the shit?
It was pretty cool when it was just a crew and you had your units and each unit was like the specialist in their thing
They're all characters
And then you just pretty cool. Yeah, I remember being like, oh, yeah, I can do this
Like I can do it without the base. I can grab a couple of units and roll with it
Commandos was fun commandos is a lot of fun
I remember back in the old cnc days where like who cares about micro and like the only thing that mattered is like
Yeah, the the intrinsics of the battle don't matter
All that matters is that you're making more tanks per second than the other guy is
And you will eventually win. Hmm. Yeah. Yeah
Back in the good old days in 95
There's there's also something that is um
There's also something that is um
Like
There's something about like the first person perspective in a in a game that like, uh
Doesn't sit well with me and this is not just the movement thing that I talked about and this is not this is not bad
This is more about like, um
Getting my bearings and like judging a distance and things like that
like I feel like
The camera placement is like limiting me compared to like in third person
And it's it's and it's and it's all on me, but it leads to a level of like
like wanting to
Have more view than I have and it's not just the fov. It's it's the purpose
Yeah, the perspective of the thing and I go like, yeah, that's uh
That's that's on that's a me thing. That's it's super a me thing
But it is it is going to exist in every first person game
I play for sure is a little bit of that like well
Just you just got to get used to this, you know
um
Every once in a while you get games where the the conceptual execution of what's going on
Oh outshines everything else happening that otherwise would
Uh bother me about it and I think you know mirrors edge and matri prime
Are great examples of that uh tight and fall, you know, of course every time I've talked about like these these great first person shooters
I'm like, yo, I fucking I can dig this. Um, it's because what's going on is is
Like so much cooler. So to answer this guy's question, you know, I think there's a lot of fps is that I
Uh, I'm like, I'm so drawn to what's going on outside of like what would bug me here that like it's it's fucking it works, you know
I was watching a there's a fucking 25 minute video of here's overwatch and third person
Here's every hero. Here's what the game would look like and I was just like
I mean
I just I just watched though. I just sat and watched it dude. I sat and watched it and I was like, yep
That's that's how that looks
Looks pretty fucking cool
You know
It was it was a it was a nice video. It was 24 minutes of overwatch and third person and I liked it
It there's moments where things kind of didn't work. Obviously when you pull a junk rat super
Alt off the camera doesn't follow him that that's that's a bad and when you're playing widowmaker
You need a fucking sniper scope. So come on
But um, also, how are you supposed to play the game when you're playing as widowmaker and her ass covers most of the screen
What are you to do about that ass? I don't know. I don't know what he's gonna do. Yeah
So that's that's it though, you know, that that is a thing that is a thing
But like I said sometimes
Despite myself despite my own stupid shit
I uh
The idea is the what's going on in the game is cool enough, you know
And and it and it sells me anyway. I I've been I've had a long history of
Like this game looks cool. I hate it
And just like bashing my head against it until I either know for sure that I hate it
Or breakthrough to at least
Some enjoyment the one I I mean I did that with warhammer over the pad. I I had
32 hours played in warhammer before I enjoyed it once
Which is way more of a go than I would recommend to anybody
but
Like there's a lot of cool shit out there
That sucks for me and I want to enjoy it, but I'm wrong. It sucks
Overwatching third person is a really good example because
You that could just be you pulled it up
Yeah
No, I didn't even but I should right because it's like, you know, your skins would matter a lot more
Oh, yeah, they would if you could actually fucking see them. Yeah, they would dude like something
about just seeing lucio
Just skating around and jumping off the walls and shit and I was just like
But I I I sealed I I I sealed that that part of me. Oh, that's really good
I sealed that part of me away
You know that looks really good. I closed my heart to it a long time ago
I understand you just opened my heart to it. I hate this
Oh, I would way rather have played this dude the last time I brought this up
I got super turbo shat on
High-key was I there?
Uh, I don't remember probably possibly it might have been a podcast discussion
But I talked about the the idea of the third person overwatch thing and I remember everyone's just like fuck off
Well, he doesn't need to be for you and I'm like, you're right
You're right, but there's you can see your character. There's this video and I'm watching this video
Where you're using all these heroes and you're doing their shit and I'm like, dear god
I love this so much more than what we have and you can see them
But you know, it's me. It's me. It looks like unreal championship
I
Skip ahead on real championship. Skip ahead. Yeah, skip ahead. Look at some look at look at fucking look at some of those characters
Look again. She looks like unreal championship
You know, I mean Reinhardt's doing it a lot of the time anyway, but like just everyone else, you know
I'd have a way easier time hitting that genji super
If I could see where I am it's just it just looks like a better game
but
Whatever, I don't want to have this argument again. You know, wait, is that what paladins is?
I mean even even
Like even like just you go look at like like little little things like, you know
If I can trace her running around and zip zap zoopin, you know
And you're like, yeah, you're just seeing her
Blinking and her teleporting and all those cool little trails that she has and the visual
Shit that she's doing that looks all cool a lot of the time you get to appreciate that as you do it
Oh, that's what smite is
Smite is your third person mober, you know, there's um
It does a little put this shot this like doom fist
Doing his fucking shoryuken into rush punch combos and stuff and I'm like, oh fuck you can you can see it
You can see him hit the guy in an uppercut and then charge the rush punch and follow it up
And it looks cool because I saw it happen
But anyway, now mobs aren't fourth aren't third person guys most mobs are fourth person. They're an omniscient view
Yeah, the smite shit. That's a third person. That's behind the back
Just learn to fps woolly. Yeah, no, that's the that's it just oversimplify the entire discussion. That's it
And fucking doom eternal
No, no, no, no, no just learn to just learn to fps. That's the point of the discussion like
That's it. Just just boil the whole thing down the whole thought just comes down to like nah, just learn what exists, dude
Stop shut up
Like okay, totally dude right on nailed it. That's the sentiment
Why don't they just make one of these big cool games and I okay hold on
Yeah, what if they make
Like a third person. Yep
Like shooter
melee game with a lot of cool different characters
And there's like objectives on the map and it's kind of like a moba, but not really
and it has a really killer rap soundtrack
and
It's character actiony
And we can get platinum to make it guilty gear to overture
Gotcha, and it can be called something like guilty here to overture
Got it, uh or or like
Uh
Or like it can teach you about the origins of valentine
And the anarchy kings
You can learn about that man
ask our crews
And about what we do and what we can learn from the backyard
totally
Guilty gear must have the most amount of untranslatable garbage that sounds like shit in english
I can think of in any japanese thing ever
That man is the is the worst it's the actual worst ever
Grand viper knight raid vortex
It's the new name of the move
Okay, that's cool. Yeah, he's got a name though. He's been named. We know his name
I said it. Yeah, well
Yeah, but I mean I played all through all the guilty gear xx story modes and
I didn't see that name
Did you I saw are you sure you did man and in quotes
Did you do the new stuff?
Which new stuff like excerpt and excerpt. No, I said xx. Oh, yeah. Well, you had to you had to hit the uh, you had to hit the rest of it
To get to the uh, the truth there were like six of those
Uh, excerpt story mode and rev two
are the uh
The parts where it goes into the uh, I was already out the truth
Tell me the guy's name asca our cruise
No, I meant I was talking to the game in the past. Yeah
At least it's not like joey
Like his name was joey fuck. Do you want some fucked up spoilers?
Yeah, fuck it
For the guilty gear lore
Yeah, hit me hit me right now
That man
uh-huh
Not even that bad of a guy
Oh, shut up
Dude, that's suck. He was doing it
For other reasons. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care
I don't care
Yep
I hate it
That man was up to some other shit
Yep, a little bit of that attachee going on. I don't think any
Hey, you want to talk fucked up spoilers?
I want to talk to you
Careful about the worst
Villain heel turn ever
In a game that I no longer play
But I will occasionally keep up on because everybody in my discord starts laughing the ass off because it's so terrible
Let's talk about warcraft
Hey, you know who's really bad
The demons they're bad. Oh man
And the kingest of the demons. Oh sargeras the evil titan. Oh, he's so bad. Oh, he's so evil
Oh, man, he's gonna he's gonna kill all the he's gonna kill the planet
Oh my god
That dude's an asshole. Holy shit
So you take from warcraft 1 onwards to like two years ago. I'm talking 25 years more
Oh, man sargeras is the biggest baddest ever
He's the he's the universe annihilator. Oh my god
Did you know that he was only doing it
To stop the
Elder gods the eternals or whatever the fuck
Danzo. Yeah
That's yes, that's right
That's right
Uh
Somebody points out sargeras wasn't there until warcraft 3. I should point out warcraft 3 was like 2004 anyway, but
Who cares about that kill jaden was in warcraft 2
And then sargeras and arkham ond were his boss
So whatever
Hey, man
Lord genome, right?
You fools I was holding them back
Dude, wow, lore is the actual worst
Did you know that the planet of wow right now has been found out to be a person?
And there is a sword
Approximately the size of the moon stabbed all the way through the planet. No wow
And that that's not like oh we found out. That's what that was
It's been there like some that happened in a cutscene and the planet remains whole
It didn't just I don't know explode into a billion shitsillion nuclear explosions
It's okay though because magic
Hey man remember that time that zuko
I do man zuka. Hey wasn't that great? That's good. That's really good. Hey zuko is cool in that one episode when he teased. Yeah
Remember that that remember that thing he did it was cool. Yeah, that other thing that he did that sucked. Mm-hmm
Yeah, it's fucking great. Yeah, it's good
That's rough buddy we got one coming
That's when I knew the character had been saved
Yeah, not just that that was the it's not just that but it's the like it's the way the light is written
It's like oh, we're super aware. We're so aware of this. Let's absolutely embrace it and play it out
Beautiful absolutely perfect
Um, yeah
Hey, so let's take one
from
Kenji 849 says their super beast cast
Castle super beast
Uh, I'd like to share is the story
About my old cold worker
We used to work in a factory together as the janitorial staff one day our other co-workers dared him
To sniff a bucket filled with a chemical we referred to as ultra bleach
Being the idiot that he was
He stuck his face deep in the bucket took a long whiff
He immediately passed out and since then he claims that the smell of rotten eggs smells like freshly baked bread
Keep being awesome
So apparently could you describe what I look like right now uh audio listeners
Shook and dead I would say
uh one
has to think
that
This is a conclusion to our conversation from about a week ago. Yes, it seems you can permanently
permanently
Damage your ability to smell things if you are enough of a fool
He's lucky he didn't get like serious brain damage. Well, that is serious
Brain damage, I would call that it's ultra bleach. I would call that serious brain damage
if you I what what like
That's exactly what I would call that I don't even I literally I literally don't even know what to say
That is the kind of thing you can never live down
Hey, I can't smell this really why how what happened
Yeah, hey, okay, it was an accident. No, it wasn't enough. He's brave though. He took the dare
He wasn't a coward bitch. He did it. He did the thing
They said are you a coward and he said no and then he did it so he's got that
That's rough, buddy
Yeah
Uh the worst one I've ever heard
Little little anecdote Casey says dare pooper and whooper in episode
192 of sbf of f sbfc
You were talking about the movie looper around 232
And woolly says
Someone is listening to this podcast in 2020 right now and pat cuts you off and says no, they're not then you told me the listener
In 2020 to let you know that I'm listening. So here I am
Sorry, it's not creative or anything, but I wanted to fulfill your past request
um
Oh, well, I got owned just doing what I'm told
Very respectfully Casey
The loop has been closed I got shit owned goddamn the loop has been closed
Look at that
Looper
I want to go see looper
Man the more I thought about it the more that movie's plot makes no sense guys
Looper
Looper
All right if murder can't happen then how come they accidentally kill the wife
I
Said we closed the loop pat
All right
He hates us he keeps us on the ground
Maybe it is time
It was the other way around
What's he doing in the house
On the road
There's a tyrant sitting smugly on his throne
See him laugh. Ha ha ha. See him sneer. Oh, yes. The only thing he covers are your tears and
He's a boy lock. He's a jailer. He's not fine. You know what to do
He tries to break our spirits. He must be defeated ends the boy
Boy
He's twisted his evil
He's clever insane we'll end him all the same