Castle Super Beast - CSB 072: Tengen Toppa Judith Sheindlin

Episode Date: June 9, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Music Music Hey, hey. Hey, good morning. Good morning? No, good evening. Good afternoon. It's not evening or morning. Good afternoon. Good day. Oh, dad, that works. That works.
Starting point is 00:00:48 Good day. What up, man? What up, woolly? Not much, you know. Are you coffeeed? Oh, fuck no, dude. I got up at fucking noon with my alarm and went, I'll give it five more minutes and then went to set my alarm again
Starting point is 00:01:10 and then immediately fell the fuck back asleep and then woke up at one because you dinged my phone and were like, hey, you good? And I'm like, no, I'm not good. Okay. Well, we will have to find our energy as we go on the road like Mario Kart pickups.
Starting point is 00:01:34 So it's fine. I found an apple. Please chew away. But do your thing. You picked a real ASMR fruit to bite into there. Yeah, I forgot about that. Well, in any case, what's up? How's it going? What's new?
Starting point is 00:02:06 Well, ironically enough, despite the fact that the live viewers can't see me, my air conditioning did get fixed and the reason I can't see it is because I didn't tell you far enough in advance and you had the whole stream set up changed and couldn't change it on a dime, which is why you still got the elmo head up there probably.
Starting point is 00:02:28 With a slight modification, but don't worry about it. Oh shit, what did you do? Don't worry about it. It's fine. I'm a little worried about it. Oh, that's good. I like that. That's good. Okay. But only thing of note is that when the AC people came over, did I make? Oh, I didn't.
Starting point is 00:02:49 So when I called the place and be like, hey, that dumbass motherfucker took their mask off, she's like, really? Which one? Was it this guy? I'm like, yes. Why did she say, oh, that's the second complaint about that exact thing. I'm like, oh, fucking sick. That's sick.
Starting point is 00:03:08 So they sent over two different guys, right? Because I was like, don't don't send that guy back. And we put up like a little, you know, like a child fence up on the staircase so the cat doesn't go up. Right. And then what happens? The guy's like, oh, I need to check your circuit breaker.
Starting point is 00:03:30 And he steps over it to come down into the basement. And we both have to be like, are you coming down? You get go upstairs. What the fuck? I swear to God, dude, it's like, it's like everyone's fucking brain has turned off with this Corona shit. I mean, that's a little bit less of an infraction,
Starting point is 00:03:58 but the polite thing to do would be to call and ask, like, hey, do you have pants on, you know? Oh, I suppose so. I didn't even I didn't even think about that. I was just thinking about the death germs. Yeah, no, man, when the when the like city, when the big boot workers come into your house, that whether it's setting up your your videotron
Starting point is 00:04:21 or your bell or your this or your that or whatever, it's like a common courtesy. You give it a, you know, like, hey, you know, is anything going on in here or whatever. Although I suppose the understanding is usually that it's like, hey, from X time to X time, there will be people walking around this house and doing the thing. But yeah, yeah, that's one of those.
Starting point is 00:04:44 That's one of those jobs where, you know, as we've discussed in the past, I feel they kind of they just walk into so many houses and like just can't be bothered with the little pleasantries as it were, you know? Except the little pleasantries can result in death now, which is extra fun. In theory. Yeah, you got to be got to be careful about that.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Any of you people are going to people's houses due to work. Fucking be careful. Yeah, not too much, not too much on my end. And I mean, a lot of like off mic work, I should say, like a lot of stuff going on that is just where, you know, working on projects and things personally. But I mean, and yeah, just, you know, keeping up with the flow of the protests
Starting point is 00:05:44 and the video footage and everything going on. And, you know, just the crazy, I mean, the real short of it is it's kind of incredible how when you use brutality to stop people who are saying, please stop being brutal. People kind of don't like that. And it was kind of nuts seeing the amount of people in Philly and in Montreal, even like thousands upon thousands
Starting point is 00:06:15 of people kind of coming out because, you know, as that meme showed, you can't necessarily use police brutality as a bad date to slap on police brutality as a whole in a way. Pretty crazy. Fire with fire. Who knew? Who knew?
Starting point is 00:06:31 Why isn't more violence working? New York, I saw a fucking quit doing their curfew shit last night. They did. Because 11 days of protests and just beaten a shit out of people and running them over with cars. Oh, wow, that's actually making it way worse. Pretty not so.
Starting point is 00:06:50 But yeah, you know, kind of following along that, I guess a little bit. I don't know. Is there, is there, I guess, like, would you like to start with your week? Yeah, sure. Why not? Quiet, Kat.
Starting point is 00:07:11 You be quiet. Now, aside from taking care of this dumbass. Shut up, Elmo. Unfortunately, Paige's back is out, which, man, she just keeps falling apart, huh? Which means I've been doing all the house's cooking, which is new for Pat. What did you do prior to there being house cooking?
Starting point is 00:07:38 Be really appreciative. But what about before that? There's the, there's a, do we have DoorDash this week on sponsor? Uh, yes. Yeah, well, there's a solution for that. There you go. But like even, I guess I meant, I meant before,
Starting point is 00:08:05 even before, you know, like it's, my point is, you were on your own at some point and had to stay alive. Did you nary at any point put a pot on a stove? I did once. It didn't go very well. Okay. Mistakes were made. So were you kept alive exclusively by delivery food
Starting point is 00:08:28 for the entire period of you being an adult on your own? More or less. Fascinating. Okay. Okay. So, Paige has been teaching me how to do this shit. Like, you know, she'll be making the dinner. She'd be like, you do this, you do this, you do this.
Starting point is 00:08:56 And, you know, what with her basically laid up in bed for the busted back. I've been having to do the rest of it. And you know what? I probably should have done this earlier. Learned to do this shit earlier. Because I'm all right at it. Paige seemed to like the stuff that I've been cooking.
Starting point is 00:09:19 I made a steak. I made like a, like a, like a curry. Probably going to do fish today. But it's not impossible. It's not insurmountable. So, I love my mother. I love my mother a lot. However, I look back and I go, hmm, I wonder how I learned the
Starting point is 00:09:49 cooking is so difficult. And I'm like, hmm, mom is not a particularly good cook. Unfortunately. Oh, very sweet lady. That's not, but not a particularly good cook. That's not, not a very mom trait. When I, when I mentioned that I was starting to cook to mom, she was like, oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:10:17 I'm like, oh, you make anything for dad lately? She's like, no, he makes his own breakfast every day. I'm like, oh, okay. I wonder. And I remember thinking back as a, as a baby child asking my mother how to do the cooking. And she's like, oh, cool. I'll teach you, which led to a sequence of events that I can
Starting point is 00:10:45 only look back in hindsight as hilarious and very boomer ish actually in which when you move out, they're like, how do you not know how to do these things? And they're like, okay, let's walk through how I was taught. I'm using big air quotes here. How to do these things. Okay. First you do this.
Starting point is 00:11:08 What does that mean? Like, I think my favorite is put the, put the stove on medium high. What is medium high? What is that on this? On the dial, the dial just has numbers. Is that on a scale of one to 10? Is that like a six?
Starting point is 00:11:23 Is that an eight? Like question one, literally question one, because like, and then maybe by question two or three of stoop of stupid questions. Oh, don't you worry about, I'll just do it. Okay. Okay. Well, to answer your question, then yeah, and use usually, you know, with one being low and 10 being high, you know, the
Starting point is 00:11:47 medium high would be seven. Oh, sure. I'm using that as an, I'm using that as an example. So, well, the thing about cooking is that it's not, it isn't hard, right? It's hard to do extremely well, but it's not hard to do it like decently. And the main reason why is because, I mean, besides the fact
Starting point is 00:12:08 that you're kind of like following instructions and it's kind of like a little bit of just chemistry involved in some cases, you can learn from repetition very quickly. So the heart, like one of the hardest parts, I'd say, for example, of anything is seasoning, right? Knowing how much of any given spice or seasoning to add to something. And you have to just feel it out.
Starting point is 00:12:35 And you can always go too far, but you can never, you can never have, you can never have too little because you can just touch, touch, touch, touch, touch until you get there, you know, but that's one of those things that you need to repeat the activity more, more like multiple times, you know, and then the first time you fuck up in one way and then you steer, you error correct. And then the next time you look out for that and then maybe
Starting point is 00:12:58 something else happens and then, oh, it might get burned because of the timing. But for the most part, like you taste as you go and you just kind of like eventually landed and then you're like, OK, that's a good place to be at. And from that point forward, you can pretty much, you know, do that thing the same way each time and you'll net the same results.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Yeah, pretty much. So, yeah, I've pretty much learned that as well recently. The other thing, and this is a great way, this is a great way to get your kids to never try and learn how to do cooking is that food poisoning is generally pretty rare. Would you say? Yeah. OK, not when you go to grandma's house.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Yeah, that's my entire family would get some some power level of food poisoning every single time we went to eat at my grandmothers. Is this the grandma that taught your mom to cook? Yes, well then. And my mother is much better cooked in grandma because grandma is the type of woman who would. Oh, man, that there's a lot of green on the steak.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Well, we just scraped that off. Yeah, OK. So, OK, all right. This this meets a little old. Maybe if we put half a bottle of celery salt on it. OK, well, in the grand relative in the grand. Yeah, my grandma liked onion salt, too. Onion powder, rather use it a lot.
Starting point is 00:14:36 But in the grand scheme of things, if even if your mom is, you know what, I'll have to like, you know, perhaps hold my judgment back on your mom a little bit because, you know, if we're talking about her being a better cook than her than her mother was and she lands on zero, then I suppose that's fine. If no one's getting sick, that's an improvement. So the lesson that was learned, right, was that if you cook
Starting point is 00:15:04 it wrong, you can make everyone horribly sick. Right. And this person's been cooking for 50 years and they make us sick every day. So it becomes this this this mash of apparently it's so difficult because no one will explain me the basics. And if I do it wrong, I'll make everyone sick or kill them. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:15:32 So that's that's not like if the ingredients are safe, then that will not happen. It is simply that it'll taste bad with a few exceptions. I don't think you're going to be making Fugu. Boy, I hate coriander. You know, anytime soon. Boy, I fucking hate coriander so much. And keep getting all these fucking recipes in so you put
Starting point is 00:15:54 the soap in it. Like, no, thanks, man. Yeah, that's, you know, that's fine. Watch out for the for the E. Coli on the chicken, you know, you want to be careful about that. Yeah, I don't know where I picked it up, but I became very aware at some point that everything the chicken touches might as well be poisoned until the chicken is cooked.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Because chicken are disgusting. I mean, the like it is not an instantaneous infection on all like raw chicken meat, but the risk is much, much higher. So yeah, you want to be you want to be careful. Oh, yeah. Oh, cilantro. I meant cilantro. Sorry, guys.
Starting point is 00:16:35 I just woke up. I'm an asshole. Right, right, right. But yeah, that's what I would say is like if there's any if there's any like tool that you should go train to level up faster than you should naturally, you can you can you can kind of cheat the system a little bit by getting really good with spices.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Because if you get really good with with with spices, you can like it's in a weird way. You can take all kinds of bland foods, bland meats, bland bland anything and you can add the right combination to it and create a really tasty flavor. But that will become a consistent flavor that it's like, oh, you just you did the thing to this now. You know, so it's like, hey, like slice the hint of spice
Starting point is 00:17:24 lemony chicken, hint of spice lemony shrimp, hint of spice lemony fish, you know, and they all taste great. But like it's a good it's a good early hack to kind of minimize the effort, so to speak. So I would say that's a good place to look at. So far, I've been following pretty stringent recipes, which lets the the OCD really, really thrive actually. It's funny, but this the the one of the same mental states that
Starting point is 00:18:01 caused cooking to be so difficult to get into has worked out really well. Because you because you are you approach it from the same level of like obsessiveness. Yeah, yeah, much. I mean, said I'm fucking exhausted after I cook, man. Oh, yeah, dude, that's a that's a long ass task. I mean, in some cases, you know, I mean, I don't want to blow
Starting point is 00:18:29 the spot up too much. But like there like there was a a recent punch mom adventure where she was like cooking like some meatballs that took a long time to make. And it was like almost an entire Sunday like it was crazy, you know, so like it definitely is something where you have to kind of clear out your schedule a little bit slash don't expect it'll be a half hour and then you can jump back to whatever
Starting point is 00:18:57 else you're doing. I saw somebody in our chat say that cleaning is the worst part. I like I just agree, man. Making a filthy countertop and dishes not filthy is very satisfying. Depends on how complex the the the stuff you're making is and as it's clean.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Hmm. And it also depends on whether you're making it all at the same time. Right. Yeah. If you were doing every part of that plate at the same time, then you've got some chopped salad on one side, some rice boiling over there, some meat in the oven.
Starting point is 00:19:41 You know what I mean? Yeah, that's that's what I was doing. Yeah, like I made a what the fuck was it called curry beef samosa. And it's like, OK, the rice is the rice is going and the the beef's on there and it's been on there for four minutes and I add in the garlic and the shallots yet. And it's like, OK, what about the aioli?
Starting point is 00:20:01 Where's that going? And it's like, I might have wanted to choose something slightly easier for literally the first thing I made. It would be a good idea. But hey, it worked out great. It was good. It was good. Paige gave me two thumbs up from from her from her busted
Starting point is 00:20:18 ass position in bed. There you go. Did you taste it? I did. It was great. OK. All right. Yeah, no, that's that's that's it.
Starting point is 00:20:32 That's it. Well, good stuff. Good on you. Yeah, that is a late but essential skill to do that shit. I've been using. I really think the biggest most helpful intermediate step is that we've been using those like you familiar with like like good food or like or like fucking what are they called
Starting point is 00:20:58 like meal kit services? Oh, I mean, yeah, like you mentioned, well, the other sponsor this week is a sunbasket, which is a meal kit service. So yeah, stuff like that. Because like bra, like just being able to find the ingredients at all, literally at all. Like we originally started to pick them up because we were
Starting point is 00:21:24 like, huh, that's three orders in a row. Walmart won't send us any meat. This is becoming worrying. OK. Right. And then that all calm down. Right. But then it's like, oh, hey, this is actually really useful.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Yeah. Well, that's that's, you know, we'll get into it a little bit later, but that is, in fact, the handiness of that type of service and you learn in the process. So cool. Yeah. What else do I do? Whatever, man.
Starting point is 00:22:02 I played some of the usuals have been playing a shit zillion tons of Dead by Daylight in which how do I put this? Will you play a significant amount of competitive games? Would you say would you would would you be able to describe a game in which the higher the ranks you go up, the shittier the game becomes? I mean, it depends on what your metric of shitty is, but like there's definitely a feeling of that in some of the older
Starting point is 00:22:43 classics as it were. Like there's a like if you are getting into, I don't know, let's say like Marvel 2 because you love that roster. Well, guess what? The higher you go, the more that roster does not apply. And yeah, I don't know where it's at now, but I definitely remember that the the state that I left Overwatch in was one where like the comps in each competitive season were kind of
Starting point is 00:23:18 like it burnt in and it was a little bit like, well, if you're not playing this and you're not playing the counter to this, then fucking stop. I don't remember if I said it here on my own stream, but I'm like, I can't think of a game more than Overwatch, which is like I think that game got worse on every update that it ever received. Like that 1.0 version was a blast and then every single update
Starting point is 00:23:46 they ever put out just got worse and worse and worse. It seems that like people got more and more upset with it for sure, although new characters and stages is always a fun thing in any video game. But yeah, there is always like an immediate like, oh God, what the fuck are you doing with this kit? You know, what did you do here? Why did you do it like that?
Starting point is 00:24:05 You reworked this? What's going on? Oh, great. You nerfed Roadhog into the ground. Sick. Yeah, that game's balancing act. I don't even know where I don't know where to begin and I also don't know where to end because it's like I don't envy that job
Starting point is 00:24:25 and it's very clearly like it sounds as if like, yeah, moving forward even with the justification for a lot of the changes, like things ended up, problems ended up getting borked harder. Yeah, competitive like ranked came out and then they started to balance for that and made the game less fun to play. I think it took like three or four, how many seasons it took for them to, for, for Mercy to get like adjusted?
Starting point is 00:24:59 I don't know what the Mercy changes are, but apparently they're the most outrageous change. Yeah. Well, yeah. So Mercy went from heroes never die. Everyone gets back up. Remember that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:13 So she went from that. The best move in the entire game. That was her thing. That's her entire identity and that's her, that was the fucking, yeah, the res thing. It went from that to being she can res individuals as her second ability on cooldown every once in a while, but she could res one at a time.
Starting point is 00:25:36 So she would solo res people instead of using an ult to do it. I don't know about that. Yeah. So that's the thing is, is the, I don't know about that, but like the res was like, I don't know. I don't know. I have, we're not qualified to have this discussion, but it
Starting point is 00:25:58 was, that was a huge rework they had for her. There was a huge, you know, there was that giant rework they had for Symmetra, but yeah, all that stuff was happening. And I remember when like I was playing and it was just like, okay, so what's the, what's the flavor of this season? Is it dive comp? Is it heavy boys?
Starting point is 00:26:19 And it's like, okay, yeah, you got to have tanks more like three tanks, you know, just like, like, or whatever the, like three, two, one. Yeah, that game, that game's a mess, dude. Three, two, one was the, the state of affairs for a while there. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:26:36 I don't know. And then yes, exactly. The one that I have zero idea about because I was completely out by that point, but I hear a lot about is Brigitte being just busted, absolutely despised from top to bottom, which I am like, man, that sounds really, that sounds like a consensus on her not being a good time. But at the same time, like I thought the design was pretty
Starting point is 00:27:00 cool. So I was like, oh, that's a shame. You know, yeah. The reason I mentioned this is that I've been playing a lot of Dead by Daylight and I've been improving significantly about at Dead by Daylight. There's 20 ranks. They go in golf order and he used to hover around rank 13.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Right. I'm now down to rank eight. Right. And it's this funny thing where people disconnecting when you hook them. That's gone because people actually care about their penalties. Right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:34 What's it been replaced with? Honest to Christ like switching. In what way straight up. You're chasing somebody and then they start running in a straight line and then you hit them and it doesn't register and then they literally teleport and disappear away. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Yeah. Yeah. I was streaming it and people like it literally happened on stream directly in front of me. And I was like, really? Come on. Any honestly. I was going to say any competitive game where there's no
Starting point is 00:28:13 punishment for disconnection and or rage quitting will have a insanely high concentration of fuckery at the top because the higher you go, the more you encounter the people who successfully got to the top by doing that. So this isn't this isn't disconnecting. This is like switching. Right. Are you familiar with the difference?
Starting point is 00:28:37 I'm familiar, but I just I'm wondering what the what the actual processes they're doing to create an unstable connection. Oh, it's I believe it's like a physical component because I remember trying to do this in person a couple times and I was unsuccessful, you know, whether it was like, you know, trying to like destabilize the connection like I imagine like if you were to do something like change it from like like minimize it, minimize the program or switch it from full screen to not there'd be these weird little hiccups
Starting point is 00:29:15 perhaps, but I don't know how that would affect. No, it's a button. It's a it's a physical box. Hmm. Okay. So odd. So there's that. And then you get to the problem with dead by daylight actually has.
Starting point is 00:29:29 No. Oh my God. Sorry. Okay. No, hold on. I didn't explain the people thinking like, Oh my God, you're trying to do that yourself. I was trying to do it for a fucking dumb gimmick event.
Starting point is 00:29:42 I was having where I wanted to make people suffer by having bad conditions to play them under the play games under because it would be fun. Sure, buddy. Yeah. So that's that's what was up. Sure. Sure, buddy.
Starting point is 00:29:57 All right. Well, anyway, what did you say? I said my piece. But dead by daylight also has a weird like systemic problem that I don't know how they can ever fix. The game was designed and built under the assumption that there was no voice chat because that would really ruin the scary atmosphere.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Right. And there's a bunch of perks that you could take that shows you where other survivors are or where the killer is, you gotta gotta stuff like that because you're working cooperatively but quietly, right? Yep. Or you could you can queue up with a with a gang of four and you can just hop in discord and the advantage that for survivors
Starting point is 00:30:42 have when they're all in discord, calling out where the killer is and shit like that and being able to find each other instantly to heal each other is so enormous that you can get the game and like I'll be circling the generators and literally not be able to hit people once before they get all five and like the game is a just it's a wash. And yeah, any any cooperative, any any experience like this and anything is insanely bolstered by clear communication
Starting point is 00:31:21 through discord or team chat. It's really it's really crazy because when you play against like four Rando's that are randomly matched together and they're all rank one like rank one. Wow. It is way easier and more fun to have that match than it is to fight like four in a gang rank 15. Like it's it's just so it's so obvious the game was actually
Starting point is 00:31:54 designed with the idea that you can talk to each other. And it's so fucking frustrating. Yeah, so in a some exact and because you're one V how many one V four one V four. It's not like you can repeat the advantage by having you know your own team speak going on. Yeah. So yep, you do have to you do have to balance with that in
Starting point is 00:32:21 mind. If you balance without it in mind, then you run into that problem. That being said, getting good at Dead by Daylight Man, that game is incredible. There is so much like tech in that game. Like map and most of that tech is just map awareness. Like the maps, it's weird because the maps look randomized
Starting point is 00:32:41 when you get into them, but they're not. Very well defined. It's just placement of objectives is randomized per match. And you have to learn the loops, which is like the areas that the fucking survivors can loop to loop you and then, you know, drop pallets on you or jump through windows that will slow you down.
Starting point is 00:33:04 And I recently started implementing the simplest thing in the world, but it's moonwalking, which is like you walk backwards because the killer's head projects a red light that shows you where they're coming. So the idea is that you see the red light coming around a corner, you turn around, run the other way. But if you walk backwards, that red light doesn't show up and people will just run into you.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Like they will. They will be like, aha, he's behind me. He's chasing and they will literally run into your back. Okay. So there's kind of you spin around when you get the collision and pop them. Jesus Christ. So there's countermeasures for, you know, the coordination
Starting point is 00:33:45 you're describing. Yeah. But that I mean, that's not for the coordination. That's like that's just pure. Yeah. Yeah. That's just tech. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:55 And just like, you know, if you're playing a character that can dash all the way across the map, you learn like, hey, what unobstructed like sight lines are there on this map that I can actually just dash the whole way, stuff like that. That game is great. That game is great. You know what game is not great.
Starting point is 00:34:14 See if thieves. Oh, did you even try? I did. Now I know you. Why would you try when you knew from the outset that this was not for you because it was not about the stuff you want in your video games? Because I got a key.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Okay. Because from the, I think, I think there was an event or I forgot where, but at some point the discussion occurred and it was basically like, oh yeah, this is a game where you don't level up and you mentally checked out. Yeah. And then I was told that they added a shit ton of content. And when I logged in, yeah, there's a shit zillion like
Starting point is 00:35:04 cosmetics and stuff like that. Okay. So that's cool. That's something to press towards. But also if they added a shit ton of content and different types of missions, like you could at least do those missions like a couple times at least, right? And I applied and got a key.
Starting point is 00:35:21 And then I got a key in like an hour. So like, fuck it. I'll throw it in. Okay. Game is gorgeous. Game is fucking gorgeous. Controls well. Great sound.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Good voice acting. What might be the shittiest character creator I have ever seen. Really? Yeah. To the point where I thought it was broken. And then I looked it up and I looked up see if these character creator to find an article.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Why the see if these character creator might not be for you. And I'm like, oh, okay. Now I love picking apart a good character creator. So hit me. What's going on? All right. So here's the character creator you load in and it randomly generates six different pirates for you to choose.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Sure. Yep. And it says pick one. Yep. That's a standard. Okay. Starting point. That's the end.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Oh my God. Oh wait. No, there's a step two. Don't like these six. Re-roll. Generate another six. Oh no. And I sat there for 40 minutes doing this.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Oh no. Once you do it long enough you get to see you can you can intuit the sliders that are happening. Right. You can see there's a face slider. There's a weight slider. There's a clothes slider, et cetera. Oh, that's the worst that's ever been allowed.
Starting point is 00:36:48 That's the worst. Yeah. No. All right. That's the worst one where that's the worst character creator I've ever heard of. That's the worst one. Yep.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Okay. You don't even you literally get no choice. We will roll six for you and then re-roll again. Pull the lever. Because they want it to be a rare crafted pirate. Even though when you re-roll it enough times you get to see they're not crafted at all. They're just like a bunch of different heads and hairs and
Starting point is 00:37:21 body types. So how much does it. Okay. You're going to wear like within 10 minutes you're going to be wearing equipment of your choice anyway. So you won't really even notice. Yeah. Equipment but your whole body type and gender, race, hair
Starting point is 00:37:34 color, et cetera. None of those are actual choices. Pick from six. Yes. As somebody in chat points out there's a character selector from a bunch of random. Not creator. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Yeah. Like it's terrible. It's absolutely terrible. It's so bad. So I loaded in. Yikes. And the tutorial is really cool. And it's one of those games where one of the things that I
Starting point is 00:38:03 really appreciate is I got, they give you a sloop, which is like a tiny little ship. And it's like, okay, you have to wait like moving the sale. Like determining your speed is by unfurling the sales a certain amount and you repair the ship with wood below decks. You have to hoist the anchor is sailing fun. Yeah. And like when you're sailing, it's like, okay, the person who
Starting point is 00:38:25 like, if I wanted to say shoot a cannon, I'd have to stop steering the ship and walk over to the cannon. Okay. So like guns of Icarus. So yeah, very much like guns of Icarus. And I'm like, okay, that's really cool. And I can definitely see how that would be both cool with a lot of people, especially on bigger ships or like bullshitting
Starting point is 00:38:45 your way around on a sloop with a one man crew to like aim it. And and so like, for example, I had a really hard time docking my ship because I didn't know where it went to drop the anchor and went to drop the set, you know, stuff like that. Did the tutorial. Bidings pretty simple, but it's, it's enjoyable. Do explore Island. That's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Go to the first Island, like, you know, so story set up and you do the first story quest, which is go to some bumfuck Island out in the middle, whatever, kill a couple skeletons, get a treasure chest, come back. Right. Hey, this is pretty enjoyable so far. Right. Then I got back to I got back to the dock.
Starting point is 00:39:27 And another ship of dudes sailed in. And I waved at them. I stood on the on the pier and I waved at them. And then they jumped out and they shot me and I died. And then when I respawned 15 seconds later, they were burning my ship down and proceeded to spawn kit me for about 20 minutes. Sounds like pirates. And then when I went to Twitter and was like, Hey, this seems
Starting point is 00:40:03 like shit. You said, Oh, you got a matchmaking. You got to get a crew. So went to matchmaking and then was in matchmaking for an hour. And then the game loaded in with one party member that never spawned into the world and no one else. Okay, but you can't say that was not the pirate experience. I suppose so.
Starting point is 00:40:31 But it was like, it's like, if you do not, if you cannot convince two or three people that, you know, to shell out the 60 bucks for this to play with you at literally all times, it's worthless. And I feel like that's a big ask. Like you look at something like Deep Rock Galactic or, you know, any any other similar, whatever. And they're like $20, $30, right? But grabbing like big money for something like that.
Starting point is 00:41:16 And then the possibility of everyone going like, Oh, that sucks, especially with the tutorial that lasts like an hour. I'm sure that there are a number of people that kind of like want, I'm sure there's a number of people that just picked it up and wandered into some sort of ship or guild or clan or something that you could do without having the buddies, though, like there must be. There's matchmaking, but in my experience, the matchmaking didn't work at all.
Starting point is 00:41:45 And when the matchmaking does work, I was informed that it's a coin flip as to whether or not you'll have a good experience or you'll get some dumbass. The other thing to imagine is that there must be a discord that you can jump in and be like, Hey, looking for group. Sure. But yeah, cool game. Seems very well made.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Seems like a total waste of money to play it. You play it in any other way than with a gang of friends. Which sucks. Yeah, I can, I can, I can see that game being like that. But again, I am, you could probably meet a gang of friends through, you know, searching if you wanted to, but I was curious to, yeah, I was wondering how far in you would have went though, because I got to the point until the game told me I couldn't play anymore because
Starting point is 00:42:54 either my ship was constantly burning down or matchmaking didn't work. So that was like two out. Wait, hold on. I'll tell you right now. It's either two or three hours. Library C of thieves is 105 minutes. Okay. Excuse me.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Well, you know, there's definitely games that like you absolutely like should be playing with a group anyway for the, for the, for the real, for the fun to kick in, you know, but the question is, is like, how good is it when you're playing it optimally as well? Who knows? Not me. I love that the general consistent, the consistent explanation that I'm seeing in the chat is just play it on Game Pass, which requires you to use the Microsoft
Starting point is 00:43:52 Store, which makes video games pointless and your computer broken. Yeah, I would, I would, but, but like the main reason why, why I would ask though is just cause like, you know, imagine you're playing a way out single player. Right. Yeah. Well, that's actually unplayable at all. Like. Does it, does it actually stop you?
Starting point is 00:44:24 Yeah. Yeah. You're struggling not allowed. That's why when you, you pick up the game, it gives you like a fucking digital copy of the game for a friend in, in the game. Like every copy of the game is, is like a fucking like double game. Good. I forgot that detail then.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Good. Good. Um, but yeah, there's, there's, uh, there's games where, you know, it's like there's a significantly fun version of it. If you play with people versus if you try to play it, not with people and you're kind of just ultimately having the wrong experience. I mean, ultimately, hey, like we could talk about fighting games, right? Um, but, uh, anyway, whatever.
Starting point is 00:45:12 I mean, I was more expecting the premise itself and the fact that it is a, um, whatever you want to call it, like, experience less game, you know, it's, it's, uh, like a flat, lateral progression. Lateral progression. There we go. Lateral, lateral progression. Everything's flattened. Um, I thought that would have been the biggest problem for you, if anything.
Starting point is 00:45:36 So, No, I, I, you know, like I enjoy like when I was fucking around with the ship and like, uh, you know, steering it and all do that shit. Like I was like, Oh, this is really cool. Like I could, I could sit, send some time sailing the seas and, and piloting this ship right up until it was like, Oh, this is a horribly miserable experience. Hmm. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Any more, uh, Runeterra? Uh, yes, tons. That game's great. That game's incredible. I've been playing with a friend of mine who unfortunately is way better at card games than I am and has been stomping my shit into the dirt for a week. Like way better than I am. Like, Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:46:36 I'm embarrassed. Is it not, uh, is it your deck? No. It's me. It's you. Cause, uh, like I had, I had, I had built up a real deck by the end of the first week and played against him when he had a objectively weaker starter deck and he won like four out of five games.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Wow. Okay. Yeah. No, absolutely. Which, Hey, that means the game is really good. Right. Cause even, even better debt, you know, whatever, but it's like, Oh shit. I mean, if you can recognize, um, the patterns and the, and the, if you can recognize what
Starting point is 00:47:28 you're playing, then you can, you know, prepare the counters in place for it. I am very, very, very slowly learning the little ins and outs. Oh, it was, uh, it was SC pattern. No. Oh, okay. All right. No, it was cool lightning. I was light too.
Starting point is 00:47:51 All right. Yes, you were. You, you got pumped. But, uh, yeah, that game's great. And man, they dole out cards like crazy. You, you get cards all the time. It is genuinely much more satisfying than, you know, doing, uh, your, your dailies to get a rank up to get like, uh, a fucking, uh, a booster that has nothing to garbage in
Starting point is 00:48:16 it. But are they cards that you immediately implement or that you want to use? No, I'm building up a, I'm building up a fucking, uh, cause it's, it's a really weird system where if you play for like two months, it's assumed that you just are going to get all the cards. You'll, you'll just get all of them. So like I'm building up a ton and when I get the, when I unlock my weekly at the end of this week, what I'll do is I'll look at what I have and I'll see what I can make and then
Starting point is 00:48:51 I'll use shards or wild cards to fill in some rosters and make like a second or third deck. Right. Okay. And then next week I'll see what I get out of all those and so on and so forth. So there's a lot of events that you can do, um, or rather it seems like there's a lot of events that you can do and tap into me that like throw you, throw like, you know, good quality cards at you. Um, cause besides the, uh, the rankings, like there's these, um, tournament battles you
Starting point is 00:49:19 can do where like, you know, it's kind of just like, okay, like best of five, see, see what your best, um, score is. There'll be like a Colosseum where they go like, okay, everyone starts with the same super card in the middle and you have to play around that strategy and you know, a couple of things like that. And, um, those will reward you with a couple of like, you know, some legendaries and things like that. Um, I completely stopped caring once I had set my deck in place.
Starting point is 00:49:47 And then I started caring when I had to go and like try and build another one, but, um, I'm pretty, I'm at a place in Tepin where I am like more or less content with what I have and new cards don't mean as much because I just kind of check them out. And if I have to recreate a deck to, you know, kind of learn the, the workings of it, then that'll matter. But pretty much until that happens, uh, I don't really care about the, the new cards I get that much outside of like, oh, fuck, it's a cool character. I check out the art on this, look at it, you know.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Yeah. Routeris got a thing where like I said, it's like, it's assumed that you'll get all of it. Like, you know, if you play regularly, you will get all of those cards in a relatively short period of time, all of them. And, uh, if, even if you don't, they are extremely generous with, uh, wild cards, which are just cards you can trade in for anything else. So it's this kind of thing where usually when I open up a box that I've unlocked or
Starting point is 00:50:53 whatever, it's like, oh, I've been seeing that card ruin my day for a week, right? Or oh, that's part of, uh, this type of aggro deck or this type of mid-range deck or whatever cool. And then you go and look and you're like, oh, hey, you know, I actually have 80% of what I would need to get this type of deck going. I'm just missing this, this and this. Do I have the resources to get this and this and this? Yes, I do, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:51:22 So it was pointed out to me, uh, by a couple people actually, and like that there was ending existing, um, naming convention, there's a nomenclature for types of card game players. And they are, and like, it kind of divides the mentality of, uh, what different players are after into groups, uh, it came like, like there was an email that kind of like summarized it, but like, like I got a link from a couple people on Twitter as well, but it more or less is like there's, uh, how, how players enjoy playing the game is broken up into Timmy's, Johnny's, Spikes, Mel's and Vorthos. Have you heard of this at all?
Starting point is 00:52:08 I am not. Holy shit. So, um, I mean, I'll just give you the, the, the email version of it, but like, yeah, I've been glancing over these summaries, uh, cause these are like, which is just the coast apparently like put this out. So, uh, this particular, yeah, message comes from Frank and he says, which is the coast magic, the, uh, gathering makers spent a long time analyzing how players play their card games and have come up with five player profiles, some of which overlap the first three describe
Starting point is 00:52:37 how players enjoy the game and the latter two describe what they enjoy about the game. So a Timmy is a player who likes big cards, big creatures, big spells, big power moves that'll win the game. They don't bother with complicated combos. They just get to the big, they get the big stick and bass the opponents face and Timmy doesn't necessarily play to win. Some do, but they enjoy the feeling of playing the game regardless of the outcome. Got it.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Johnny, that is the, that's what they will endure deck. Johnny is the opposite. A Johnny will spend the entire game building up to the seven card interaction that lets him win the game in a marvelously convoluted fashion for a Johnny. How you win can be as important as winning. Using your deck to have fun interactions becomes a form of self-expression. Johnny's are also usually the kind of players who will take a card everyone sees as terrible and find an off the wall unexpected use for it.
Starting point is 00:53:32 That's a deep deck. That's a Maokai, Nautilus deep deck for sure. So big number and do combo spike plays to win full stop. Doesn't matter what they play. It doesn't matter what's in the deck. You play to win. These are the players who will often look up the meta, just copy paste with their own collection.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Uh, they might min max said decks into competitive perfection, but for spike, it's not about big cards or elaborate combos. It's whatever works. Yeah, that's, uh, that's net decking. The pride that net decking didn't exist back then, but it does now. Yeah. I would call the spike the sadford quite frankly, that would be that's a sad. Sadford right there.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Yeah. Um, and then on, on the, what the players enjoy side of things, there's Mel, uh, Mel enjoys the mechanics of the game, interesting interactions between cards, cards with new interesting effects, layers of complexity for Mel, the art and the lore of the card isn't as important as what the card actually does in game. So, uh, that leaves Vorthos, who is the opposite of Mel, Vorthos, Vorthos likes the game because of the cool art and intricate lore. Vorthos doesn't enjoy playing a card because it's mechanics, but because of what the mechanics
Starting point is 00:55:00 represent in universe for the card. Um, you know, Vorthos is a dumbass. These profiles can and do overlap, but there's more intricacies that can be described in this one email if you have to peg. Yeah. So, um, that's that. There you go. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Well, I like seeing the translation of characters into card form because I think if you do a really, if it's a, if it converts really well, I think that's awesome and satisfying. So. Okay. Wolfos, I will, I will gladly accept a mixture of Vorthos and, um, probably I started as, I started as, as, as Johnny Vorthos, but then I think I ended on Spike Vorthos, right? My Nero. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:52 My Nero was Johnny Vorthos. And then when, uh, when I switched to zero, it became Spike Vorthos. I'm hanging out on, um, Johnny Spike. Yeah. I like my big cards, dude. They're big. Yeah. Totally.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Yeah. Well, wait, no, that's Timmy, you mean? Big creatures, big spells, big moves, Timmy Spike, Timmy Spike, Timmy Spike. Okay. Big, big moves to win. I'll spike that Timmy. Yeah. No.
Starting point is 00:56:27 I mean, like, you know, whatever, say what you will, but it's like the idea of like converting a character like V who doesn't fight, doesn't attack on his own. He only summons. What are you talking about? That's all the time. She's got punch fists. Okay. Well, taking a character like V, the mysterious one, uh, from the, from the Devil May Cry series
Starting point is 00:56:52 featuring, um, he doesn't fight on his own and, uh, he does nothing and he only calls in his summons and the three summons come in and do the work for him, you know, converting that into a deck where, or into a card where he shows up, he has average life, he has zero attack, he does nothing, so he just takes up space on the board. But every time you, um, you, you, you play a spell of some kind, you play a, you resonate every time you, you know, switch over to that phase, he summons one of the three randoms and they all, and the three randoms, uh, all have their individual unique traits in the form of, uh, you know, uh, nightmare, um, and, um, cat bird.
Starting point is 00:57:47 So you okay, buddy? Uh, yeah, I'm fine. No, um, but it's, it's cool. It's cool seeing the translation cat bird. That's correct. It's a good old capper. Yeah, it's pretty rad. So, um, eventually, you know, you kind of get to see like other versions, like I described
Starting point is 00:58:11 Sigma last time, you know, but yeah, Shadow and Griffin, there you go. They, uh, have a very cool like representation and I think that's, it's worth acknowledging if like, oh, hey, smart, you put these guys in the game in a way that makes sense. That's cool. Yeah, I've been really enjoying her entire quite a bit. I am, yeah, I'm eagerly awaiting my Tuesday reset cards and see what kind of new deck I can make with it.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Uh, yeah, dead by daylight, see a thieves. Oh, yeah. Oh, this is a bit of an aside, but I feel it's very important. Played some call of duty war zone on stream earlier this week. Did you have you seen what this game has done? Yes, it is my favorite of the empty gestures that we've seen everywhere. It is by far the best empty gesture. Like I would I saw that shit.
Starting point is 00:59:20 And in fact, yeah, that came up. I did a guest spot on the inside gaming podcast, which you can check out available now this week. And like, yeah, that was brought up on it where call of duty replaced the entire press start screen with Black Lives Matter. And you get every loading screen has a big message. And it's like you are going to see this no question. That was wild.
Starting point is 00:59:50 That's so they came hard with it. I discover not as hard as ice cream though. I discovered two things about this one. While loading up the stream, I was recommended on mass by chat. Dude, you really want to put stream remote on. People are changing their names. They are upset. They are very upset.
Starting point is 01:00:13 And two, I talked a bit about the protests in the in that stream. And got my favorite comment ever, which was on my call of duty war zone stream, which was like, can we please not talk about politics in our video games? Please, it's like, I'm sorry, the game about about war in a fictional Middle Eastern country. And whether or not you should use like interrogation, brutality to save lives. You should. I shouldn't talk about it. And also, I think it's funny because I talked about that before I started playing the game.
Starting point is 01:00:56 So that comment probably came through before they saw that the game, in fact, is actually putting the direct topic of the day literally in your face every 15 to 20 minutes. Yep. Yep. It's unavoidable. And it's hilarious. Yeah. There was a screenshot at post that was going around of a Facebook message that basically was like about how X-Men was always about civil rights.
Starting point is 01:01:25 And then it goes into how just about every superhero story and every comic you've read and everything about Star Wars. And like, it just like, I can't find it, but it is a gigantic thing, basically describing that like, it's never not been political. And if you didn't notice that, then you missed the point. So it's kind of like impossible to extract from politics out of Metal Gear. As long as they keep politics out of Metal Gear. Yeah, exactly. And it kind of, and it's a it's a very long post.
Starting point is 01:01:59 And it's it's it's it just it hammers the point in. I'm kind of frantically searching to see if I can find it. But I don't know if I will. But, you know, and it just kind of like leaves you on the note of like, you know, like, perhaps your mentality has changed. Maybe have you become the villain? Here we go. X-Men is about civil rights. If you don't get that, you didn't get X-Men.
Starting point is 01:02:22 Black Panther is about civil rights. If you didn't get that, you didn't get Black Panther. Captain America literally fought Nazis. He's the embodiment of fighting the alt right. If you don't get that, you didn't get Captain America. The Empire and Star Wars is a fascist. Fascist. I keep I'm going to keep making that mistake. He's the embodiment of fighting the alt right.
Starting point is 01:02:42 Sorry, the Empire and Star Wars is fascist. The Rebel Alliance are anti-fascist. If you didn't get that, you didn't get Star Wars. Punisher isn't meant to be a role model for the police or armed forces. So much that the writers of Punisher made him actively speak out against it in a comic. If you didn't get that, you didn't get Punisher. Deadpool's queer. He's pansexual. Fact. If you didn't get that, you didn't get Deadpool.
Starting point is 01:03:00 Star Trek is about equality for all genders, races and sexualities. As early as the mid sixties, it was taking a pro-choice stance and defending women's rights to choose. It's one of the clearest themes is accepting different cultures and appearances working together for peace. It's also anti-capital. Hey, hold on. On one last thing, Star Trek was about equality in the future
Starting point is 01:03:20 and featured such amazing quotes as, look, we have a Russian on the on the ship and we also have a Black, but no gays, no gays. Jean Roddenberry was famous and that there we will have solved the gay problem in space future in brackets. It's also anti-capitalist and pro-vegan. So if you didn't get that, you didn't get Star Trek. Superman and Supergirl, a whole host of other superheroes are immigrants. The stance of these comics is pro-immigration and pro-equality and acceptance.
Starting point is 01:03:47 If you didn't get that, you didn't get Superman and Supergirl. Stanley said racism and bigotry are among the deadly social ills plaguing the world today. If you're a bigoted or racist, you didn't get any of the characters Stanley created. The story and then he stole all of Jack Kirby's characters. The stories we grew up with all taught us to value other people and cultures and treasure the differences between us. Only villains were xenophobic or sexist or racist or totalitarian.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Can't understand, except for the slap of jab by war bonds. Remember that shit? That wasn't great. I don't remember it because I was alive in the 1940s. Can't understand how anyone can have missed that. Are you reading the whole post? Yeah. There's like one paragraph left. Oh, OK.
Starting point is 01:04:32 If you're upset that there is a Black Spider-Man or Black Captain America or a female Thor, Miss Marvel is Muslim or that Captain Marvel was pro-feminism or any of the other things that right wing fang say is stealing their childhood, then you never got it in the first place. The things you claim are now pandering to the lefties were never on your side to begin with. You consider yourself a fan of these things, but you think LGBTQ plus communities to in your face or have a problem with Black Lives Matter or want to take the country back from the immigrants.
Starting point is 01:04:58 You're not really a fan at all. Culture isn't suddenly left wing. It always was. You just grew up to be intolerant. You became the villain in the stories you used to love. So like this is a Kenny Boyle on Facebook wrote kind of wrote that. And the idea ultimately being that like if you're kind of. Yeah, if you're kind of coming across these things and saying like if you feel that somehow these things are apolitical, they were not.
Starting point is 01:05:27 They were super duper, duper not. I think part of the problem there is that the understanding the average person has of the word political is incredibly shit. And people tend to say when somebody says, oh, there's a political message in this movie or game, they somehow seem to get upset and be like, I don't want to be told who to vote for or some shit. And it's like, no, it just means that it says something.
Starting point is 01:05:56 Yeah, at all. Yeah. No, I mean, it could be it could be as minor as vegetarianism is the way to go. Or Star Trek doesn't have money. And there are there are characters that constantly laugh at everyone in the Federation because they're like, how do you shoot with that money? That's fucking so stupid.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Yeah. And there are problems that like it's really funny because you get TOS and TNG where they have no money. It's all utopia and they have Deep Space Nine where they have to deal with cultures that do use money. And they're like, no, seriously, though. Yeah, we're not going to give this shit to you for free. So what are you stupid?
Starting point is 01:06:42 Some of the worst examples I encountered were like people that were for lack of a better term, like living strawman like examples where it's like, you know, the strawman you'd point to to be like, yeah, that's that's a bad argument because no one is like that. And then there's a video of a guy filming himself going on a rant about how he can no longer buy video games because video games as a whole hate him and his race and what they stand for. And it's like you you think that supporting this literally mean
Starting point is 01:07:19 like supporting what's happening now literally means we hate and want to eradicate white people. And it's like that is so like saddeningly insane, you know, and then and then to film it and throw it up online and, you know, and like other people were like, like, yeah, totally with you there. I agree. And you're like, that's what you're gathering from this. Like it's it's a strawman. It's something that you wouldn't expect to be real, you know. But as as as the white person on this podcast, I'd like to take this for a second
Starting point is 01:07:52 and be like, that's really funny to me because we just got off of two back to back generations of, oh, my God, can I please get a different character design than Nathan Drake or Bald Space Maroon, Bald White Space Marine. Anything, anything, anything. I don't care. I don't give a shit. Yeah. But anything other than these two fucking character archetypes, it is so boring. Yeah. And for and and what's what's almost more upsetting to me
Starting point is 01:08:27 than the racist undertones to this is people looking at those designs and be like, oh, yeah, oh, that's my favorite. Yeah. Oh, my God. And Nathan Drake, that's a good character to sign right there. There's just there's sort of a consistency to it that I, you know, you kind of just like it often gets brought up where in many of these cases because boy, has there been, you know, like absolute like just like dog fighting on on on Twitter threads, you know, but I guess it's just a bit of like
Starting point is 01:09:02 like when you when you see what happened and then you see the response and like you're deliberately choosing to like ignore the main struggle to to like emphasize that there is other that it's emphasize like something else is more important than the main struggle. It kind of betrays that you don't think the main struggle was that important or it betrays something else. It's something about the mentality of choosing to kind of circumvent the point, you know, to create a different point that I really get confused by.
Starting point is 01:09:42 But I, you know, like it's not confusing as much as it is just kind of sad because like the person in question doesn't necessarily realize what they're doing, you know, but it's like, yeah, your takeaway, like crazy straw man person is that people want you and your entire race dead because of these demonstrations. And it's like way to just make it like the most self centered thing. Because like if you hear something and then you can't fit your own existence into that to figure out like how it relates to you, then it can't possibly be valid. Yeah, pose laws is the shit.
Starting point is 01:10:25 And to those of you who are unaware of pose law, it's pretty simple. And it's it's one of the newer argumentative laws, which is without a clear description of the authorial intent, i.e. are they being sarcastic or not? It's actually really, really, really hard to tell whether or not somebody is actually that fucking stupid or they're pretending to be that fucking stupid. It's shocking because we were through the fucking looking glass on this shit. Yeah, where it is. It has become impossible to tell whether or not somebody is faking it or not,
Starting point is 01:10:58 unless they come out and literally say they are. But but but what what is like sad? Yeah, no, totally like what is sad is just like the idea of like this is a reaction to hearing something, not seeing what's going on, not understanding it, not understanding what it what the words Black Lives Matter even really mean. Or and then kind of responding in a fearful, this must be out to get me kind of way. And then instead of stopping to confirm that that's the case, you just follow through that chain of thought to its to its end point, which is like they're out
Starting point is 01:11:41 to get me, they're out to destroy us, you know, when that's not remotely the case. But your fear and then your, I guess, habit of not double checking to see whether or not that's real or not, you don't confirm it. So you just live in this world of like, this is not what's happening, but you've created the reality around you, you know, it's it's fucking sad, man. It's now to take your well thought out and eloquently stated point and put a spin on it. Alternatively, the people we're talking about are big dumb babies who like to poop their own diapers and then eat it.
Starting point is 01:12:17 In a manner of speaking, I've been dealing with many of these diaper babies over the past week. And I swear to God, I know I was wrong about Dark Souls a bunch, but people seem to think I'm fucking stupid. Did you see that dumb bitch, motherfucker who DM'd me with this fucking condescending shit yesterday? No. Hey, man, I can show you some things and we can talk. It's about what's going on in the world.
Starting point is 01:12:48 I know you've had some people heckle you and just be dicks at you, but I'm willing to be trying to try to be totally civil and polite if you just lend an ear. I think it's imperative to have a range of perspectives. So you get a better understanding of the world around you so you don't become a fanatical cultist. If you're streaming or about to, we can save this for later whenever you're available. It's fanatical and then you then you go and click on their icon and you scroll down their tweet history and you go, oh, I know what you're trying to tell me. Oh, don't don't you work?
Starting point is 01:13:22 Oh, OK, so yeah, so yeah, listen, sis, OK, sometimes and I'm like, do not think I am fucking stupid enough to get pulled into your stupid shit without at least doing the cursory glance. Yeah, there is there is a very there is a very, very clear like, you know, this is what I put forth in replies in this discussion. And then the moment you kind of like go, what's the what's up here? And then two posts down, it's like, oh, OK, this you. That's called we it's called the this you. It's a it's a it's a it's a big old gotcha that's been popular for a while now,
Starting point is 01:14:04 where yeah, anyone will say something. Usually it's a company in a lot of cases, you know. And for example, Activision Blizzard will make their statement about Black Lives Matter. And then you will go and grab the Hong Kong thing and then post that and just go this you. That's same same person, you know. So you got to hit him with that every once in a while. I had I had to enjoy one of those a little bit earlier this weekend, where it was just like, I don't know, I was being called a hack.
Starting point is 01:14:41 And then like you just you scroll two points down and you're like, oh, a word. OK, all right, you're not a real person. Oh, I've been I've been dealing with this similarly. And I've I've I've I've been. Slapping people down all week, yeah, because apparently they think. People think you're stupid. Well, I mean, that's, you know, and that you're not like people are sitting in their armchair and they think they're very smart and that they're like, haha, got them dumb influencer.
Starting point is 01:15:15 And it's like, no, you really don't. I think it's honestly more in some cases like if I hot fuck you, chat, fuck you, chat. Fuck you, they're all just going well. If I think it's more along the lines of like, if I'm if I hide what I really feel, I might be able to like slowly convince this person to see things my way, despite the fact that there is a end point that I am at here, which is ridiculous. And you know it, so you have to hide it. Whether it's on your burner account or on it, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:15:55 And anyway, oh my God, people are so pathetic with these fucking burner accounts, dude. It's so sad, dude, you know, whatever, man. Like, like it's the fucking the Beedoo post, right? When you're shamelessly, hopelessly addicted to hentai, but you're but you're going off on everything else. And as I said, you know, at the the end of the little thing that happened on Twitter where, you know, sometimes like block and move on is a nice policy to follow. And generally, it's the right way to go.
Starting point is 01:16:25 But every once in a while, if you stick around, you find out how the story ends. And in this particular case, this dude who was just like, like cartoonish, cartoonishly racist and silly. Someone found a post where he just was like, God, I'm so lonely. And you're just like, oh, my God, oh, there it is. There it is. Oh, oh, boy. And got him, ladies and gentlemen, we got him.
Starting point is 01:16:59 So, you know, yeah, but it's it doesn't always work. It doesn't always work out that cartoonish, but sometimes it does, you know. And I guarantee you that those who are, you know, sort of even upset at this moment hearing this are thinking, well, I'm not that cartoonish. And I think there's possibly a, you know, there is a there's a milder point of view here that you're being willfully ignorant about. And it's like not I hear you. And the discussion is being had, you know, quite detailed.
Starting point is 01:17:29 But I think the core point will always come down to like there is a clear wrong that took place. There is a focus and there is a potential for a result to occur right now. And this is kind of the priority and point. And that should be an obvious thing. And there can be other statements. Seems pretty cringe. But there can be other there can be other statements and other details
Starting point is 01:18:01 and other facts as well that are relevant. There can be other problems that need to be addressed. There are tons of other things that are broken and fucked up and shitty. Right now, there is a lot of momentum towards possibly doing something about what happened, and that would be a good thing to focus on. That that's that's about it. And if you don't necessarily agree with that, then that's so that there's nothing else to really say.
Starting point is 01:18:30 That's OK. It just seems like a weird way to, like, de-prioritize, you know? But anyway, anyway, anyway, we need to stop talking about these political things in the in the the the the podcast, because this is a video game. It is. Now, do we have any news this week about video game companies infringing on people's consumer rights and being evil?
Starting point is 01:18:54 Because that is definitely not. Yeah, yeah. What do I got to do to get on this fucking trader list? It's pretty. I'm super pissed off. I'm I'm I'm kind of like, yeah, no, I know. It sucks. It sucks. Me, too. I step one is I was like, I have to I have to be real. Like when I saw the list of traders to to America
Starting point is 01:19:26 by one angry gamer, HD, and I was like, oh, please, please, please, please, please. And I scroll and I'm like, God damn it. Because I'm like, I don't know. Maybe it's maybe because I like the maybe it's being Canadian. Maybe it's being Canadian. No, there are Canadians on there. Yeah, Matt got on there for sure. So yeah, I'm like, you know, maybe it's just not come and targeted enough.
Starting point is 01:19:48 You know, maybe it's not there. There's like screenshots of their traitorism. Oh, my Max is on there. It's wild. Wait, is Max still on there? I thought Max got to go. Oh, I thought he was the last I saw. He was no, he got on probation. He got put back on for defending Marvel versus Capcom.
Starting point is 01:20:07 He was put on probation, you know. Yeah. Yeah. It's no, I know. It sucks. I'm just. I I demand to be on there. I'm so I'm so offended that I'm not on the trader to America list. I stole an American woman. I stole a good one. She's broken now.
Starting point is 01:20:28 But again, the problem with the language is the implication of trader, which is that you are a you started as an American. It also implies that loyalty to America is to be assumed. That's the funniest and best part of it is if you're speaking and you're out there in England, you're in English and you're your default American, you know, that's all that, you know, even the Canadians and the Brits and everyone at. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, how could you not?
Starting point is 01:21:00 Like, I mean, it's oh, oh. Yeah, that happens a lot. That does happen a lot. I think the funniest thing I've seen is is people going like, hey, O.A.G. I really appreciate you. You compiling this list of people to support. And he's like, what?
Starting point is 01:21:18 No, that's not what it is for. No, wait, please. And it's like, oh, why would you be so honest? Why would you type in your bewilderment and then press send and use ellipses to space it out? It's almost cartoonish. It is a cartoonish response. Like, you're supposed to have that moment in real life and go, oh,
Starting point is 01:21:43 and then actually come back with some snark. But the fact that it cut through and it actually got him to be like, wait, what? No. That was pretty funny. That was pretty funny. Yeah, yeah. Well, anyway, man, all right, I've just resorted to adding him. No, that's where you're at.
Starting point is 01:22:06 I know that fucking list. I guess I guess that's the place it goes. Yeah. Well, in any case, it it it becomes. But I don't really know what else to say in this in the sense that it's like one thing that I feel like has always been a consistent. And, you know, this came up when, like, obviously, you know, last week, we first started talking about it.
Starting point is 01:22:30 But, like, you know, we've been video games and the bullshit surrounding it every once in a while gets pretty extreme when you're like, what the fuck's happening over with the fucking Hong Kong? And did Activision just shoot a bunch of what are you doing over there? And then, like, you would like that needs to be discussed. What the fuck is happening? That's that's insane, you know? And it doesn't always land on your doorstep,
Starting point is 01:22:54 but that type of thing is always worth acknowledging, you know? And then it comes to a point where it's like it is here on your doorstep and it is absolutely the biggest thing in the world. And how insane? Just just picture how insane we would look being like, nope, it's not going to talk about it. Oh, yeah, dude, that's what happened with covid, which, by the way, I should worryingly explain continues to exist.
Starting point is 01:23:23 Yes. But like, I'd like any like, you know, and for those who are kind of like, I just need a break from it. And this is what I tune in here for. I super understand. I super understand, right? Because that is a very valid, like, you know, like mental health wise, I get that.
Starting point is 01:23:48 I really do. But at the same time, the need for that break is not as insane as somehow pretending that we're just that nothing's going on. And we're just going to be like, hey, you see what happened in the news with Seigata Sanchiro's kid? But it would be psychotic. It would be fucking like, you know, I don't know. I just and then and then go and then going like, yeah, it would be it would
Starting point is 01:24:21 be disingenuous, I guess, is the way to put it. So, um, I understand that reason. I really do. It makes a lot of sense. It can be super overwhelming and, you know, imagine how overwhelming it was for the disenfranchised for us. But regardless of that, it the point is, is that it would be psychotic, it would be psychotic to not talk about it.
Starting point is 01:24:48 How overwhelming all of this has been for Mike Z. Yeah. Well, hey, man, listen, bad joke, bad joke was bad. Didn't land. I think the funniest thing about that joke is that he sets it up and then hesitates for about five seconds. Yeah, because he knows, yeah, he knows it's going to be bad. Yeah, it's going to land bad.
Starting point is 01:25:16 And, you know, I can tell you, as someone as we have made bad jokes, we have made jokes that skirted and then get swerved into something like it. It's really just. I've never made one bad joke. You've never made a bad joke in your life. OK, not one single bad joke ever. Well, as a as an expert in bad jokes and as an expert in like. Writing that line of discomfort, you know, because what else you what else
Starting point is 01:25:49 are you going to do, right, either embrace the discomfort that is this fucked up existence that that you happen to be in or I don't know, you know, do something else with it. But yeah, joke didn't land. And, you know, as Patrice O'Neill said, like bad, bad jokes, good jokes. They all come from the same place. They just different. They get different results, you know.
Starting point is 01:26:19 So, yep, yep. That was a botch. That was a botch on Mike's behalf. Not much else to say. I have one more thing to say, which is. As a guy who has been building up skull girls for forever. I think it is bordering on irresponsible of Mike Z to his team. To be fucking swinging for the fences with this shit.
Starting point is 01:26:58 At this current. Playing it safe would have been the better choice by a landslide margin. And skull girls also is currently spotlighted in a number of ways. I mean, shit, it was on stream with Sharpie, too. Like she like I just did the training lab episode with her and, you know, we have like skull girls back in the spotlight with Eva going on and stuff. It's it was a it was a bad swing, man, not not a great one. Totally, totally.
Starting point is 01:27:38 Yeah. Yeah. What a dumb bad joke. I think. Yeah, no, that's that's and, you know, there was definitely a like a moment like that followed that was like sort of the attempt to save it. And it was like, I don't think you're formulating this thought exactly. I don't think it sounds like you're trying to cover it. This isn't great.
Starting point is 01:28:09 You know, so then then there was the actual post that came afterwards. But yeah, yeah, I didn't see that. Yeah, there was there was there was a second clip that was just like, you know, the attempt at the attempt to save it. And then it don't don't know what I'm good, you know. And then there was the the like I said, the the post that came afterwards, you know. And yeah, I mean, you know, like Sonic Fox and everybody kind of like stepped in and, you know, he was called out about it and stuff.
Starting point is 01:28:39 But yeah, just like. Read, it's not reading the room. It's like, read the planet, read, read the planet, read the planet. Read the planet that you got to read the planet. Sometimes that's that's like this is Gilbert Godfrey doing that fucking nine eleven joke like three days afterwards at a New York comedy club. He did do that. He did do that.
Starting point is 01:29:12 But it is as if the second plane had yet to hit when he told that joke. Like the George Floyd and et cetera situation is ongoing. Yeah, no, it is not a footnote. It is not a historical document. Yeah. But again, as we sit here. As we sit here and have made this tasteful and like skirting the line jokes. Like skirting the line jokes, there cannot be an attitude of hypocrisy.
Starting point is 01:29:52 It's but it's very clearly like. A. A. Bad decision to go down that road with to swing to mid swing the way like he went for it while Skullgirls is on the up and like protests is are moving forward and everything coalesces in such a way that it was like it was it just it yeah, it was just a bad joke. It was a bad swing. It was it was it was not a good idea. You know, that's that's that's about as much as I can say.
Starting point is 01:30:32 Not too sure how much further to go with it. But that's about it for me. I don't know. The last thing I think I said about this was like, man, what a dumb ass. And that's that's my general statement on it. You know, Mike, he's a dumbass. Well, he made a fucking good ass game. He just seemed he made a bad decision.
Starting point is 01:30:51 Should have. Oh, fighting game, people. That's a little bit of that thuggery that we want to keep. But I guess sometimes we don't. If only Mike Z could have been more eSports. This would have all would have all been gone and solve. I got nothing else. You said your piece.
Starting point is 01:31:25 I said my piece. I feel like we're, you know, that's what's up. All right, I'm just waiting for you to. Oh, yeah. Well, well, I mean, that kind of came up in the middle. Of talking about, oh, yeah, the call of duty stuff. Oh, yeah. Oh, so I guess I'm done with my week, then.
Starting point is 01:31:47 If you want to check out streams this week, it'll be twitch.tv. Slash Pat stairs that on Thursday. We're going to be taking a look at that Sony thing. Assuming another worldwide disaster does not occur. It might. Mount Fuji could just a fucking explode and have a bunch of fucking bees fly out of it. There was a post of a video with something that was like a light
Starting point is 01:32:11 that was spinning in a circle in the sky and someone was just like 20, 20 is loading the next events for July. Oh, I don't want that. The next of the July 2020 events are currently loading. Did you did you see that article that was a guy screaming not now of ancient village frozen in time? Yes, I did see that. It's the fucking ancient village frozen in time is resurfacing
Starting point is 01:32:40 and you could visit. It's like, no, not now, not now, ghost village. We don't we don't need that right now, please. But don't we don't we, though, what better time? Yeah, I had a better time than now, dude. So I didn't I didn't see it, but I heard about there's a picture of a kid who just it's like a kid sitting in a desk with his hands on his head, just like, oh, and the text says,
Starting point is 01:33:18 children from the far future trying to remember what happened in 2020 on the test. Poor poor kids, poor kids of twenty one twenty. Well, what we did is we attacked and dethroned God. We did. We did. Now, everyone can get on board with that. JRPGs have taught us how to do it. We've been preparing our whole lives.
Starting point is 01:33:52 Fuck, I had an old T shirt that was about that. I have a show that's about that. I've built a brand on attacking and dethroning God. How's how's the progress? Baby steps. All right. It's a big it's a big job. Baby steps. But anyway, as far as it goes for me, I guess.
Starting point is 01:34:16 Yeah, the first thing that comes to mind is do maternal. Is is fixed. Actually, playing on playing on PS4. But you still fight in that log in every time playing offline. And you know what happens, you know? So turns out there is a very clear punishment that I am facing. Besides playing like there like an early like what appears to be like the launch version of the game.
Starting point is 01:34:47 So there's stuff that got patched out that is I'm playing that people are like, oh, my God, I thought that got patched out. And it's like, well, I'm playing the or the initial version. Every time I buy a skin, I can't fucking use it because you have to be signed in to use your skin. Oh, that's fucking yeah. So you can use the batteries to unlock abilities to help you or to unlock skins. And I've bought three skins now and I can't use any of them.
Starting point is 01:35:15 You're not allowed. So there you go. That's what I get. That's my punishment. That sucks. Yeah. Just log in, you grump. No, fuck off, I'm not doing it too bad. We're too late at this point.
Starting point is 01:35:31 I ain't doing it. I have no interest. I'm about to beat it and then I'm out. We're good. I ain't making shit. Go fuck yourself. We are. Yeah, I entered Erdak and it is beautiful.
Starting point is 01:35:49 It's awesome. Love the aesthetic. Love what's happening architecturally. Love the the I go on. And I just talk about it a lot while we're playing. But like I really like the art happening with with that area and with the the actual, you know, the machine that that, you know, you you are you are raised from.
Starting point is 01:36:15 So a fucking that lore. I was not expecting. I was not expecting the Lord to go this hard. They're giving you a lot of backstory and they're giving you like more elaborate, I guess it's it's OK. The expectations you have given Doom 2016 are. Doom guy pushes the story out of the way to get to killing the demons. Right.
Starting point is 01:36:46 And as you go, you get a little bit more of it. But for the most part, Doom guy says, fuck off, I'm here to rip and tear. And then that eventually does start to give away give way. But you still end up like for the most part getting Sam explaining shit or Vega talking to you about stuff. And there's little lore drops and you go and you can go read them optionally. But the in game stuff was always the idea that we're like, hey, we're just fucking moving.
Starting point is 01:37:14 I don't give a fuck. And now it's like we're going the complete opposite direction with it. We're we're overwhelming you with backstory and giving you the exact like almost year by year breakdown of what happened at the end of Doom 64, you know, and. It's fucking fascinating. It's really interesting. It's like, OK, all right.
Starting point is 01:37:42 So, you know, you can ignore this, too. You do have to pause the screen to go to the codex and read it. But if you choose to not push the story out of the way like like like the Slayer guys and actually read it, it's like, oh, fuck, OK, this is a breakdown of the mechanics of heaven and hell and earth and and earth like realms. And you just kind of you get more than than you expected, you know. I would absolutely say that the it is almost a theme of Doom Eternal that I got way more than I expected.
Starting point is 01:38:20 Mm hmm. Like I remember somebody pointed out to me when I was streaming it that there's a button you can hit that I didn't realize when you're reading those codec entries and I had missed all the big pieces. Oh, the art button. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like, oh, here's a here's a here's a piece of art
Starting point is 01:38:40 of a nine foot tall robot man with an energy sword talking to the United Nations. Here's the the Earth Army with their Mecca and super soldiers fighting against the demons with the big tall robot man with the sword at the helm. You know, indeed, some of that shit was really, really cool. Yeah, you don't want to miss some of those. That game is incredible. So far, so good. So far, so good mastery tokens are a beautiful thing.
Starting point is 01:39:10 They're are they great because some of those challenges are really, really. I'm just like, yeah, no, fuck that. I want that. I'm not interested. I got what I need here. Let's do it. And they start getting really generous with them and the last part and the towards the the later half of the game.
Starting point is 01:39:26 I want to say like there's a mission. It might be the one either before or after the one where there's like yes, to Necroval is like there's like three in the same mission or so. And I was just like, oh, fuck, yeah, absolutely. Let me just pop, pop, pop, pop, tap those. Tap those things that I'm not interested in. So very, very cool about all that. And yeah, like there is a really nice balance between your mobility,
Starting point is 01:40:00 your options at all times and like you getting overwhelmed with the the the later demons that are now like modifiers to the room. So the archvile is an in the word like what a fucking twist where it's like, OK, you are now a modifier to this room, you know. Or are you not are you not familiar with archvile? No, they were OK, because he's always been the worst. So pre 2016, you mean?
Starting point is 01:40:42 He he dates back to do OK. And he. Oh, my God, fuck him. He's number one to go every time. Same same ability. Oh, yeah. OK, OK. Oh, yeah. So that was like, what the fuck? You got to you got to go go. The priority list is there's always something moving up, you know.
Starting point is 01:41:12 And then at first we were talking about snack, you know, snack was like, OK, you got to go. And then eventually it was like, OK, no, wait, hold on. Here comes the fucking the hunter, right? And you're like, OK, no, wait, hold on. Here comes the marauder. Yeah, the marauder is as you can imagine, like the most satisfying fight it feels like a lot of people hate marauder.
Starting point is 01:41:37 I think it's a very cool encounter because he is like a he acts like a wall inside the combat. Yeah. And a lot of people really don't like that they have to stop. No, I I personally did I enjoy it. But I he wrecked my shit. He wrecked my shit many times and I'm still getting the flow. But I found I found it like a like a sort of a nice strategy out, which turns out is an optimal strategy that people have been using.
Starting point is 01:42:07 But like I organically almost accidentally went like Super Shotgun switch, Ballista. And yeah, that's that's that's and it was like, oh, fuck, OK, this is the containment combo and I mean, yeah, I did. I love the one on one that he forces. I really think it's super cool and then two on one if you fuck up. There's a when you beat the game, you get a master level, right? A couple of those.
Starting point is 01:42:40 And it was the the source of one of my favorite new memes that seemed to have gone away, which was just a screenshot of three marauders standing on the stage right next to each other. And the meme is there is no meme here. Duh. Yeah, so that's that's I mean, again, I'm waiting to see I have yet to encounter. But I called out, I was like, oh, my God, when this game decides to say fuck you, there is a very easy way for them to do it.
Starting point is 01:43:17 And I was just put another one right there and go, all right, solve this. Fuck face. Mm hmm, mm hmm. But man, just hooking and air dashing sideways and slowing down chrono strike and then, oh, like and I made a control change that really helped me out to last time is I was struggling the most with grenade switching. Yeah. And I now put I now put grenade switching on.
Starting point is 01:43:53 L three and OK, that what does that do? Nothing. Oh, well, the problem. Yeah, originally it was D-pad left. So it was like, I would have to break the flow to let go of my movement to to address it. And I kind of was like, no, this is this is no good. So I switched it over and then it started making it started working a lot better, you know?
Starting point is 01:44:24 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that that's great. And like, yeah, the last thing I got introduced to was the the drone, the the the Erdach drone or maker drone, rather. But you get to see one of them earlier in the purple rooms, you know. So at first I was like, OK, they're just kind of like, you know, tough fucking things. But like the idea of them being just like, this is a floating headshot challenge is like, oh, that's great.
Starting point is 01:44:52 This is great. And you better get it, because, boy, do you get a lot of resources? Yeah, no, it's very cool. I like that. I like that a lot as a mixture into the into the combat cycle, as you said, into the room, you know. So yeah, man, do maternal continues to fucking. Rip it as it were. We got it. I'm glad to I'm glad to say that, yes, the recent patch has totally removed that stupid shit, the anti cheat on the PC and fix the performance issues.
Starting point is 01:45:21 So hooray. Yeah, I've reinstalled it. The end maker is cool, and that's a fun reference to the past. But why would you want to aim? When that it's it's legitimately worse than the BFG in every way. And I don't why would you want to aim when you could choose to just not aim? Don't so the BFG projectile actually does damage by itself. And you find that out during the final boss, because boy, does it do a shit ton of damage, but like I fought the the final boss using both.
Starting point is 01:45:51 And the fucking BFG does way more damage. It's better. Yeah, I mean, the first thing like I tried it out. And as soon as I tested it and noticed that like you kind of like have to spread for like crowd control in a way, I was like, OK, this is going to use the same ammo that I could use to crowd annihilate. So I was just kind of like, yeah, no, this seems like a better solution for fuck this room right now, you know, perhaps it would be better.
Starting point is 01:46:27 Perhaps the end makers better for concentrated fire. Maybe. But I found that even so people are in a chatter saying that unmaker does more damage if you if you fire it at one target. The difference is that when I fire off the BFG, I don't have to stay in there getting shot by everything. I can just move away while the fucking BFG thing just kills everything. So I noticed I was making a mistake in a couple of rooms that were really hard.
Starting point is 01:47:00 The there's an art. There's a one of the. Archival rooms in. Neckarval is one where I was like, OK, let me just fucking machine turret it up and just like melt this fucker. And while that works, it requires you to sit there like bastion, you know, and I'm like, this isn't going to work. I got to switch over to rockets because rockets you you lock on fire
Starting point is 01:47:34 and then get the fuck out, you know. So yeah, your ability to deal damage while still moving is way better than sustained damage over time while you're you're you're you're stuck in place, you know. But yeah, fucking great, fucking great. And then, you know, I've been, I suppose, like, you know, waiting to to to waiting, waiting for the right. I guess I was going to think about maybe like wrapping it up before getting into it. But Kotor two is fucking popping off.
Starting point is 01:48:15 It is popping off, man. Holy shit. Oh, yeah, yeah, I am now like firmly feeling the like, oh, my God, the best stuff is not cannon. The it's so tragic, you know, the best stuff. People like like you create like you created a world and a franchise that like was blessed by some awesome creative work that came out of people that weren't you.
Starting point is 01:49:01 And just, you know, due to the business shuffle and the handing off and the one and the other like it is not cannon. And it's like, this is insane if you just go on quality because like. Fuck off, this should be the main thing. And then, you know, you're like, oh, yeah, remember that? Remember the movie? Oh, yeah, hey, that happened at some point. It's it's crazy how.
Starting point is 01:49:33 It's it's really touching on a lot of things that I was interested in hearing about. And, you know, I don't want to say too much until like, you know, it's officially on spoiler cast. But yeah, just. I think the fact that this game was made in 14 fucking months. And Lucas arts stopped them from finishing and that it was. Yeah, and it was built on the bones of the first game. It is a miracle how like the the the restored content pulls enough out
Starting point is 01:50:14 to like keep that awesome fucking vision intact. Because it could have so easily have been not there. And characters like Craya are so interesting to discuss and look at. And they they contribute so much to the like, you know, the the the the discussion about the force in the star and Star Wars and light side and dark side. And it feels like. Like, you know, like, as like, why wouldn't anyone in charge of this fucking exalt that? You know, why wouldn't you point at that and be like, yeah, this thing?
Starting point is 01:50:59 Look how good like you happen to have it. You happen to have access to some of the best material in your entire IP over here. It's it's kind of nuts. It's kind of nuts that I always got the feeling that Lucas arts was really obsessive about the release states of their projects that weren't being made directly by them because the way they treated those people. The fucking outrageous or obsidian was like, no, dude, we'll totally patch it. Don't even pass.
Starting point is 01:51:31 And they were like barred from working on the game. It's fucking baffling. But the way that Bioware always treated that game always felt like they were jealous. Similar to the way that Bethesda treats New Vegas. And that is to alternatively pretend that that shit didn't happen or take elements from it and kind of ruin them. Like. Sucks.
Starting point is 01:52:12 It just sucks. Yeah. And, you know, it's the type of thing where I would like to like the only kind of hope you could have is every once in a while, you kind of hear about like, oh, yeah, some grumpy old fart at a company that was responsible for being terrible is now gone and someone else is stepping in and they're like, hey, let's do more. Let's do this and let's do that. Like, you know, it doesn't seem like it anytime soon, but there might be a point in time
Starting point is 01:52:47 where Disney is like, hey, maybe something from this world can be, you know, used and or we can bring this back in some way that is just like, hey, let's let's port this forward or whatever the case is. Disney can do something to bring Kotor one and two back in a good way. Maybe not. Well, not not in the not like I'm not like something not in the near future, I feel. But at some point, it might be like, well, we've done a lot now. We have two new trilogies that are under the Disney name and we've made a bunch of games
Starting point is 01:53:25 and we're doing stuff and not all of it really hit. Some of it was OK, but people really like that old thing. You know, there might be a point. Dude, they don't even know what that old thing is. Well, anyway, I think the fact that like, you know, it's it's it there's a clear like group of people that want and they want enough to they want Kotor to exist enough that like there was a weird side revving reference to something or whatever. Like they even bought they even the fact that they even bother with that is like,
Starting point is 01:54:05 OK, when someone else is making the decisions here or if people. OK, hold on a second, woolly. A hard drive needs to go fuck itself. Thirteen minutes ago, Casey Hudson visits terminally ill teen to tell him in person there will be no Kotor three. Thirteen minutes ago. They need to stop that thirteen minutes ago. That's right.
Starting point is 01:54:38 That's right. It's not that long of an article. You could have written it in 10 minutes if you were a good writer. I swear to God, that's bullshit. I swear to God. What do you what do you want? Is this our league? Are we being held at ransom?
Starting point is 01:55:01 What is it? I feel like it being fucking I don't know. I don't know what more they want. Maybe it's just this. Maybe this right now is what is what what they want. But I don't but I don't know. I mean, there's a like like, OK, Avatar is currently back in the psyche because of it being back on Netflix. So the landlord not bending earth is sure, you know, totally.
Starting point is 01:55:34 And there's other stuff like, OK, hey, they're making hard drives traders of America list from a day ago. I mean, that's currently everybody's up to to date on what's going on there. Yeah, dude, I don't know, man. What was it? There was something. That was like a topic. That just hit. From like the last week or so, where it just happened again.
Starting point is 01:56:02 Yeah, I don't I don't I don't do I don't know. And it's not the Simpsons effect of like you throw so much out there that it's going to have to hit it. It's going to be accurate eventually. This is this might be this might be like, yeah, I don't know. I'm like, like, are you pointing a gun at like, you know, my head? Like, what what is it? What is the ransom here? There was also a floric of Crow's
Starting point is 01:56:40 comic about being a dickless robot and a person in the future. Yeah, that was also. Well, are we the nexus of the I mean, no, but I think there's times when I'm like, I'm going to squint at that and be like, were you listening this week? Well, are we the most important people that have ever again? No, but I'm going to squint my eyes sometimes. I'm going to squint my eyes. We are the most important people that have ever a floric of cows.
Starting point is 01:57:16 Excuse me, never told one bad work of cows. The dude, there's a robot dude. He's got no limbs and he's got no dick. And it's the exact descriptor. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. You know, it's it's hard to say. Just how about this? If you're out there and you're making something
Starting point is 01:57:40 hilarious that everybody enjoys and and is partaking, but you are in some way influenced by the bullshit that we splatter out every week over here. Give us a little secret signal like you know, just use you use some kind of obscure emoji somewhere so we can be like, ah, give us a little wink because I don't know. I don't know. Put out an article about how say is way hotter than Makoto.
Starting point is 01:58:15 Then we'll know. Hold on. We'll know. Let me see here. Like, use. Use some kind of like I'm looking for the. Well, what's what's what do we got here? There's a toilet. Use the toilet. Use the toilet emoji somewhere in your in your socials
Starting point is 01:58:38 to let us know that that that this is where it's coming from, because it's hard to say and you don't want to be that asshole that's like, hey, you took that was you know, like are we on the same comedic thread here or what? What is happening? I don't know, but people said a lot of shit sometimes and you just go, but then you're also like if it's like, no, dude, that's not at all where it came from.
Starting point is 01:59:00 And you're like, oh, I was an idiot who was thinking, you know, there was more. Listen, there were more people listening than there actually were. So. Yeah. Anyway, just give us the wink. Let us know. They're going to try and steal our skin. I mean, wasn't that like the wasn't that guy who was like too good to play with his friends, but too bad to enter a competitive?
Starting point is 01:59:35 No, no, there was no. No, yeah, I think it was that one or another one about a podcast or something. And like the actually the guys initials were P.B. Yeah, so. Yeah, pulling out the fucking. It was the hard drive. I feel like hard drive is stalking me article that his initials are P.B. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:56 Pulling out the pulling out the magnifying glass and 13 fucking minutes ago. Well, anyway, all right. Well, that that interrupted the discussion. Coach was amazing and it's a shot off and I'm fucking loving it. Hey, once you beat it, you should go and check out how fucked up the ending of that game is without any of the restored content. I'm going to do that. I'm going to go see all the characters we didn't get to hang out with
Starting point is 02:00:26 because of the the choice to go as a guy and going to check out the SWOTOR cut scenes and trailer stuff that connects as well. So yeah, that is all check out a bull. I'm going to throw that word out there at woolly versus on YouTube. Also on Twitch when you can check us out. Just live streaming the LPs and yeah. Like I mentioned, I also was invited to participate in the inside gaming podcast, which I did an episode of that went out, I think, two days ago.
Starting point is 02:01:10 And there was also a revisit to smash with some of the rooster teeth folks. But I was thoroughly smoked by Shofu and it was what it was. But it was a good time. So all that you can check out as well. And yeah, woolly wolls on Twitter. All right, let's get on some news. But first. Clicker from our sponsors.
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Starting point is 02:07:53 openers, no K-pop. Which what the fuck? You know what the fuck? It was just a matter of time. No, that's not the part that I'm what the fuck at. So it is it is absolutely just a matter of time that Twitch got like threatened with some kind of bullshit lawsuit or DFC a claim shit show. Yeah, the music, the music guideline stuff, like the fact that it didn't
Starting point is 02:08:19 crack down harder sooner was surprising to me. I was quite shocked that it took this long for this to happen. So that was absolutely just had inevitable and a massive, that's not what I'm saying. What the fuck as what I'm saying? What the fuck at guideline is that trying to just tell people what the story is. Give it a second.
Starting point is 02:08:40 Y'all need to shut up. All right, shut up. Got it. Twitch changed their music guidelines and now they have stricter rules about what music you can share and what you can play during a stream and you can get copyright claims the same way that YouTube can. All right, go ahead. So that was inevitable.
Starting point is 02:09:01 I completely agree with you. Uh, what was not inevitable is that clips that are really old, like three years old could have that happen to them, but the Twitch back end doesn't allow you to even delete those clips. Uh, doesn't it allow you to, doesn't it allow you to clear out clips that are made by you and by others? I know the clips, but if you have tens of thousands of clips, the back end literally can't scroll back that far.
Starting point is 02:09:29 Oh, fuck off. Oh, so there are people getting copyright notices that are like saying, Hey, you have to delete all your clips from this and this stream. And they're like, I can't access. Hmm. Okay. That is a humongous problem. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:46 That's a technical fail that needs to be addressed. Absolutely. I didn't catch that. That's stupid. It's that's super stupid. And, um, because I think a lot of people would respond in the same way as YouTube where they just be like, okay, fine, clear the clip. Yeah, there's, there's no mass delete option at all.
Starting point is 02:10:05 Like if I got hit with this copyright bullshit and I was like, oh, I used to play music all the time, I would just literally hit a delete every clip ever, delete every VOD ever button. I would just do it. I don't care. Right. But you, there isn't one. So VODs and highlights are already subject to the mute system, which will
Starting point is 02:10:26 kick in automatically on the, as soon as it goes, uh, into the archive. So like for the most part, full recordings of streams don't need to worry about it, but clips that people make live in the moment are not being processed through that because they're being like cut straight from the live feed. So yeah, that makes total sense that, uh, they would have circumvented the muting process, but now if you're introducing this, you can't just do it and give people no way of fixing this. I, I want to think like this will be, hopefully this will be one of those
Starting point is 02:11:02 stories where as we report it, by the time you're listening to this in its mp3 form on Tuesday morning, uh, Twitch is like, Hey, we made it so that you can instantly clear out all your clips and, or go scroll back to the ones that are lost in from years ago, like a full day. They put out a fucking statement at like midnight of God, the day that this popped off, they did it at midnight of last night and we're like, we're working on the back end. Mm hmm.
Starting point is 02:11:32 Mm hmm. Cause that's an easy, not an easy, but that's a technical fix that you can just address. It is not a policy change. You need to, uh, roll out. Yeah. It's literally like, guys, if you're going to fuck us like this, we need, we need to have a way to get the dick out.
Starting point is 02:11:55 You know, yeah, yeah. I'm going to go ahead and say that they had no idea that problem existed until this, this, oh, they did. Cause they updated it last year and that's when I changed all the music on my channel in prep for this. Okay. Well, what the fuck? Yep.
Starting point is 02:12:13 Yeah. What the fuck? Okay. You guys, what are you doing? Yeah. All right. Fucking morons. Yeah, I'm glad that the fucking nightmare that is the YouTube DMCA
Starting point is 02:12:29 shit had followed me here as well. How fun. Time to go to mix. That's a good one. Well, anyway. Um, just that good fellow's laugh gift. Oh yeah. Ray Leone just loses his shit.
Starting point is 02:13:07 Uh, uh, yeah, I squinted. So yeah, Twitch is rolling that out. And there's, there's a big to do that you need to be aware of. You can get your shit struck and be aware of that stricken. And in the meantime, go through your playlist and make sure that you fucking remove anything that'll cause a problem. Now I will say I am torn on this, but probably that's because I came from YouTube as it were, right?
Starting point is 02:13:42 On the one hand, oh man, the DMCA is so fucking stupid and draconian and awful and Twitch's really horribly fucked this up. And we should really be able to fucking have the UI for this. Just literally do it. And at the same time, I am just torn, just torn with the fucking feeling of, so apparently it was like a bunch of Ariana Grande clips that really got it hit real hard, right? That was the one that really showed up in some old school hip hop as well.
Starting point is 02:14:17 And all I can think of is like, what are you people fucking stupid? You playing fucking album music over your Twitch streams? While this thing's going, yeah. Well, what are you a fucking moron? Of course that's going to happen. Back in the day, we, we played it really, really careful in a lot of cases. And every once in a while, you'd go for something balls out and hope that it was okay. But every time we play a game that was like EA, where they put fucking
Starting point is 02:14:51 just real music in the thing, it was like, OK, well, fuck this game. Fuck whatever, you know, WWE 2K, you know, thing or EA tracks or whatever the case is, you know, live in the dream, like all that shit. You're just like, yeah, this is asking, asking for an absolute nightmare of copyright strikes. I still remember vividly me and Matt getting into like a long term argument with the guy over at Machinima, because we had a situation where we were playing Saints Row,
Starting point is 02:15:26 the third, and we had like some banging killer jokes during the bit where you're skydiving onto the fucking roof of a pool party with power, except fucking Kanye West's power. Yeah, is playing the whole fucking time. And the guy from Machinima was like, we're not putting that in a fucking video. Are you fucking crazy? You're like, dude, in the game. And he's like, no one cares. Doesn't matter.
Starting point is 02:15:53 They'd sooner have you go to the options and to have the turn the fucking music off button stream mode, you know, I don't think it was in that game. So we just had to cut the whole thing. Sucked. The music industry is so fucking awful, we should kill music. Well, you've felt that way before this anyway. This changes nothing. We should kill music.
Starting point is 02:16:18 You've been you've been waiting to say this. This is not a catalyst for you. It is just a preexisting condition. Yeah, right. Ultra David had a nice tweet. He said, um, copyright cops have come to Twitch, one of the biggest infringement machines of the last decade, which built its popularity on a total disregard for rights holders in games, emotes, music and more.
Starting point is 02:16:42 Ah, well, so so it is for mainstream culture, which Twitch definitely has become. It's no exaggeration to say that eSports exists solely because of copyright infringement. Sure, nowadays, rights holders have swooped in and built businesses in it. And we played games in public events and uploaded streamed footage, etc. Entirely without approval early on. But again and again, pre and post internet, people have invented amazing
Starting point is 02:17:05 novel technologies, musical genres, forms of entertainment, etc. That depend on infringement. And again and again, rights holders eventually swoop in and either kill them or worse and slow them down substantially. So we need a major overhaul of copyright law and minor overhaul of trademark. Yeah, I don't think that's going to happen. I think you would know because he's a lawyer. So.
Starting point is 02:17:31 Yeah, it's it's like this true man, you know, like there's they're very clear, like, get, you know, new medium. There's a threshold you hit of popularity when the industry then no takes notice of you at some point. And for anyone who was like. You know, and they will always be slow to notice where people are going and what they're doing. So expect there to be a timer on every platform.
Starting point is 02:18:03 Yeah, make sure to build it up. So it's a real industry before they they come get you. Here's the thing. It's kind of crazy that Twitch does not have like like wanton copyright strikes going on, but it does have it in its system. There are posts that get pulled, but it's super rare, but it does exist. You know, I've we've seen it. So I was thinking about this earlier, like, hey, what's up with that?
Starting point is 02:18:36 Why is it so uncommon on Twitch where it is it is a rampant shit fuck thing on YouTube that is just the worst? And the answer, I believe, is actually pretty simple. And that is the vast majority of cash all the monies that come in through YouTube are coming in through ad revenue, which when you file a DMCA claim either goes straight to you or gets held until the claim gets figured out or whatever.
Starting point is 02:19:05 Yeah, the escrow. Yeah. The vast, vast, vast majority of Twitch bucks is bits, subs and donations of which DMCA claim or not. No external company is getting their hands on without a real lawsuit. Hmm. Right. So the incentive to actually do that shit is so much less. It's not people creating an entire cottage industry
Starting point is 02:19:37 to steal people's YouTube dollars, right? It's a asshole music company is going, I heard 10 seconds of that club hit. We own that. Fuck them. Now, there are ads on Twitch that they can use to show you like, OK, well, this is the exact amount that this ad made for this moment. Sure. Whatever the fuck, right? But you have to assume the shittiest, scummiest, most garbage
Starting point is 02:20:06 point of a path that is going to be taken. And in this case, what I would then imagine is, well, OK, how much money did that stream make? How many subs are there? How many bits were bought? Who resubs who donated? What's going on? What's the income here? How do we get our cut straight from that person's mouth?
Starting point is 02:20:36 Right? Like, that's the thought that these companies are going to take is if that if the income is not coming from ads on YouTube, then it would come directly from the one to one viewer supporting streamer exchange. They would be like, how can we get in between this? I guarantee you the discussion has already been had. Yeah, except I bet there's a there's a real problem there and that like all that stuff is like viewed as like essentially
Starting point is 02:21:06 tips, which is like a like a charitable donation, which is like a whole. It's like a whole fucking thing. Legally, I mean, it's a different thing than just I'm paying you for a service. It does not stop them from trying to wet their beaks. You're right. Like so many nickels and dimes. So assume, you know. Don't be scared, just be prepared for the worst.
Starting point is 02:21:40 I fucking hate this bullshit. It's so fucking stupid and crooked. Just let me steal all your music. Um, you know, I always, uh, for a while have been operating with a like there's a margin of like, oh, man, it would be cool to use this, but it's probably going to be an issue for in my head. It's always been like, OK, what do you got access to? And this applies to music I use on the outro of the fucking podcast,
Starting point is 02:22:14 you know, as well, where it's like generally speaking, video games are cool. Generally, generally speaking, video game music, you're cool. Generally speaking, um, uh, if the video game has licensed music, new, um, uh, but you can catch yourself like, um, there's you can catch yourself a nice Mario Paint remix if you need to, uh, you know, distinct enough, there's, you know what I mean? Um, um, um, or, or like a chip tune version of something in any case. But yeah, it is, it is a, uh, it is, it is a fine rope, you know, to walk.
Starting point is 02:22:58 And I, and I feel like, um, what was it, uh, near automata had that one music video in the game that just annihilated every single person that was playing it. That was just like, oh God, no, why, why would you do that? You know, like, I, I, I wish that we, we didn't have things where like, it's like, oh yeah, no, this is baked in, uh, uh, copyright problems from here on out, no matter who you are, no matter what's happening, you know, um, that, that, that sucks when it's like, it's not even an additional thing that you can control from your stream presentations end, but it's just literally the content, you know.
Starting point is 02:23:44 But anyway, um, yeah, it'll get, it'll get worse before it gets better. No question. Thanks Lars. Fucking Lars. It's all his fault. Well, just, I, I, I brought it, I brought it up last time, but just never forget. Like they were told, Hey, do you want to sell out and do this commercial? And they're like, no.
Starting point is 02:24:09 And they're like, well, if you don't take the money that we're giving you, which is a lot of money, we'll just take this money, which is a lot of money and just get someone who sounds exactly like you and then they'll do it. So do you want to sell out? And they were like, yeah. Okay. Yeah, it's funny. Hey, you hear about Capcom Vancouver?
Starting point is 02:24:33 I did not. So what up there? There was a video, uh, that was released by. Game history secrets, which is, uh, one of it's a Liam Robertson show who, uh, was also, uh, behind, um, um, uh, working with, uh, uh, did you know? Um, but this was a video basically that breaks down, uh, the history of Capcom Vancouver and, uh, some of their projects that never got off the ground. And, um, I'm about to be super depressed.
Starting point is 02:25:21 Yeah, you are. Oh, fucking sick. Uh, so there was a list of canceled games and rejected pitches that they were working on in 2017. And, um, you know, we heard about the, the weird puzzle fighter reboot that looked terrible and, uh, we remember they made Dead Rising two off the record. So, um, I, so this video goes into, uh, some of the other things that leaked out that, uh, we never quite, uh, knew up until now, three projects in particular,
Starting point is 02:25:58 uh, were new, were, uh, large, large, uh, scale, a new IP that was codenamed Brazil, which was a sci-fi shooter with an emphasis on resource management and survival said to be slow paced in some ways, um, that we've seen through Dead Rising. Um, but yeah, that was, you know, that's all the details they have. Uh, the other one was a large project called New Frontier, a sci-fi game. Um, apparently compared to being destiny before destiny, uh, with themes of space exploration and ancient alien technology are the main things.
Starting point is 02:26:43 Uh, a third project that was greenlit was a pre-production on a paranormal shooter set in 1970s America based on ghosts and goblins. Oh man. The story centered around, uh, a woman protagonist who was a cop finding herself in the middle of a battle between humans and paranormal creatures. What? That sounds like the weirdest shit in the world. Super weird.
Starting point is 02:27:16 Right. Like a, a modern, like 70s, not modern, but like a 70s cop tale where like, this is a world where Arthur has a statue and like, you know, in, in the main Plaza downtown, like what, like I have no idea, but, um, based on ghosts and goblins, apparently. And, um, there was other pitches, including one for dino crisis, of course, that never made it, um, an action spinoff of Resident Evil, a side scrolling Mega Man game and a possible Onimusha title, but the pitches all failed.
Starting point is 02:27:58 Every game that studio ever made after Dead Rising 2 was worse than the one they made before it. It's, it's a bummer. Yeah. Um, yeah, there's a lot of bad stuff that happened at Capcom, Vancouver. But there was, uh, these are the types of stories where I'm like, oh my God, Capcom was going to do what? You know, like, I like, dear God, I would kill, I would kill for like a fact
Starting point is 02:28:38 300 page art book of Capcom projects that never fucking came out. Oh, you need more than 300 fucking pages. Oh my God. I would, I would go in so hard. I would go like, honestly, it's just like, guys, like make, make the kickstarter. I don't care. Like Capcom yourself, make a kickstarter and go, Hey, you want to see what we used to make?
Starting point is 02:29:01 We'll print it and send you a book about it. I will go in for so much. I never do that because somebody puts it in a drawer and says, we might use it one day though. Right. There's always that, but it's also like, if you just want to embrace that feeling of like soul death that comes with, oh, that would have been so good though, or, oh my God, that would have been terrible.
Starting point is 02:29:26 Like the ride from page to page would be so exciting. You know, like I get that way when I look at rejected character designs for a fucking street fighter, I get that way when I see prototype Virgil with long hair and Jesus, that thing's terrible. You know, and I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah. But it's like, like I like seeing the near hits and misses and what could have been it's such an exciting trip for the things we know. And I really, really, really want there to be some kind of gathering of these
Starting point is 02:30:01 things for the Capcom franchises, especially. I'm sure there is internally, of course, you know, and then you could maybe like God, you like being able to just sit down and ask somebody about King Cobra, you know, hey, man, tell me about King Cobra. No, okay. Well, maybe, maybe like when it's maybe when we are as far from King Cobra as King Cobra was from the Baz, you know, like maybe when this shit is like many, many moons ago, well, the reality, the unfortunate reality that it is is every
Starting point is 02:30:44 now and then, you or I or whoever else can get ahold of somebody and be like, hey, dude, what's the deal with King Cobra? But the problem is that always comes with the caveat of the person talking to you goes, but shut the fuck up though, right? Yeah, Pat, the only reason why I'm talking about this as a book is so that I can talk about it. And yeah, I know, I know, like, I assume you just already know about King Cobra. Half the shit that I fucking, I can't talk about that shit.
Starting point is 02:31:11 Obviously, I want to have it out there so we can discuss it. And then I can feel like, guys, look at this shit. Guys, look at it. But I can't talk about anything. Obviously surprised. Duh, that goes without saying, although I'm glad you said it. I'm really surprised, you know, and all this news, like I've I've I've the longer I've worked in this business,
Starting point is 02:31:38 the more enjoyable I find the the fucking process of pretending to be surprised about announcements that I'm not surprised about at all. Oh, wow, that's a crazy one. Oh, there is coming. There, there. That's the for me. That's the sentence. It's up. There it is.
Starting point is 02:32:03 Yeah, it's like, there it is. Is in like that thing that you knew. I mean, no, the thing I was expecting. I expected it. It was very it was all that beer. I know what I was saying to all of you. I said, there'd be a really cool thing if they did this. Whoa, how wouldn't that be read, everyone?
Starting point is 02:32:25 If that happened, just saying. Yeah, just know there's a there is a fun circle of a Venn diagram that you get when you used to work in the industry and now are like the internet presence, person, influence, whatever, and that little overlap. You know, there's some discussions that you can fucking be a fly on the wall to that are just like, what the fuck? But what do you guys do?
Starting point is 02:32:59 Anyway, and it's just like, hey, I hope, I hope that that can be discussed someday, you know, one day. Hey, you know what, to be fair, to be fair, a lot, a lot has come back around on the docket in the form of like leaks that hit years later. That's true. You know, there's stuff where it's like. You're like,
Starting point is 02:33:31 Stifle and then a couple years later, hey, look at that. Some say something about something. Some say something about some kind of game. That was, oh my God, that would have been so cool. So, you know, that does happen from time to time. And yeah, from time to time. I can't believe they would have canceled that. That seems like a good game to play.
Starting point is 02:33:56 Or I heard about it before it was canceled and then got to silently miserate over its canceling when I can't talk to anybody about it. That would be great. That is the actual worst. What? Like you get excited for a game that's not announced yet and then it gets canceled before it's ever announced and you can't even share your misery of it.
Starting point is 02:34:25 It's got to just hold it in. Just hold it in forever. Just hold it in. Yep. So, so if you want to talk about things that that that pop back up from the past. Apparently, Thq Nordic and Kyco have announced Kingdoms of Amalur, the re-reckoning coming out for the current gen and PC. That game was fine.
Starting point is 02:35:07 Now, this was this was a game that I got to sit and test. And I remember being shocked by the competency of the combat engine. Yep. The fantasy world was pretty like, OK, you're you're just you're trying to wow. You know, they really were. They're trying to wow it and they didn't convince anybody that they weren't. They didn't try either. You know, but there was an upgrade skill tree that unlocked combat abilities.
Starting point is 02:35:49 And when you built in to it and you could switch could quick switch between two weapons at a time and you kind of like leveled them all up. You could do like some advanced shit. It was great. I remember learning how to do juggles with the like like with the crossbow and then switching over to, you know, like other other weapons and trying to mix it up and stuff like
Starting point is 02:36:19 surprisingly competent combat engine in that game. A lot of fun with that, you know. Can't remember a damn thing else about it. The elements were really bad and half bank. Yeah, I just like honestly, I remember like because I didn't have to do I had to do both functional and compliance testing on it. So I was doing like, you know, game placed route stuff. And yeah, there was a bunch of things where, you know,
Starting point is 02:36:46 I kind of just remember being like, OK, like just fucking, you know, run from this end of the map to that end of the map, drop off this many Baphmodads, collect this much gold, you know, just fucking zip, zap, zoop around the thing. Now, people are asking, isn't this the game that bankrupted noted piece of shit? Kurt Schilling? No, they were working on a MMO in the same setting. This is made by a different team. Mm hmm.
Starting point is 02:37:14 There was a giant project, which speak of the fucking devil, how about that? Do you remember the conversation? About it? Which one where there were many? It's been so long at this point, and I don't even remember the details. But I read the document about that MMO. Oh, yeah, we had access to it. And I remember reading up about what it was going to be and everything.
Starting point is 02:37:50 Mm hmm. It was going to be great. It was I remember at the time when I was playing the game and then like reading through some of the ideas, it was like, oh, that's interesting. OK, you're going to do this and build that. And they're going to like because like the map was kind of it was a like they were going to Golden Silver. The map. OK. You know, into into that into the MMO.
Starting point is 02:38:21 And there's a lot of other details that I fucking forget right now. And at the time, I remember being like, you know, don't tell anybody, but this is what they want to do. But that's OK, because the game is never going to come out. Because yeah, that shit fucking shut down. And now it's gone. So I don't remember any of those details. But at the time, it was it was kind of an interesting thing.
Starting point is 02:38:40 But yes, that was actually what would hurt the the pocketbook. Yeah, I think it was it. I think it was 34 studios. Yeah. All right. And then Kurt Schilling decided to, you know, fuck everybody over at his company and then run away to do a baseball announcing career. As a backup. And he ended up going broke over it.
Starting point is 02:39:04 Kurt Schilling's a fucking piece of shit. Well, that's a baseball. And yeah, the Amalur developers, big, huge games also died as a result of this, because every dime they made on that game, which did well, got put into Copernicus, which was the MMO. That's what it was called. Oh, my God. I struggled to remember it until I saw it in the chat.
Starting point is 02:39:32 Fuck. Oh, dude. I just got hit with the wave. Oh, yeah. Yep. The yep. The Copernicus GDD, one of the files that were delivered to fucking check out. Yeah. Oh, my God. Wow. Well, in any case, yeah, don't fucking go into games and then treat your fucking team like shit.
Starting point is 02:40:00 How about that? Maybe don't go for an MMO first out. Yeah, the most expensive type of game you could possibly make. I mean, you got to kind of wonder, it's like it's one of those weird things. We're just like, is it like just like a like a vanity project of just like, hey, I got a lot of money. I like video games. Let's let's just let's just throw our hat in the ring. And, you know, that's like, oh, wait, never mind. Yes, I changed my mind.
Starting point is 02:40:28 And then it's like, but you can't just change your mind. I was like, well, I did. And you're all homeless now. Enjoy that. OK, thanks, bye. Well, he played baseball once and his sock was bloody. So, yeah, the re-recognizing is taking me. It's fucking hit me with waves of nostalgia
Starting point is 02:40:58 because it was just like that combat engine had no reason to be that good, but somehow it was. It just was. It's like when you play Darksiders, too. And you're like, whoa, right, right, right, right. Yeah, yeah, it doesn't have to be this good. Why is it this good? Oh, man, they have a hammer, right?
Starting point is 02:41:22 There was a hammer and I get anyway, whatever. It was the whole thing. We. It was one of those projects where I'm like, yeah, I don't mind spending time on this because I'll do I'll do some combat testing. God damn it. That's a bummer, that game. Should have been better.
Starting point is 02:41:47 But even it was still pretty good, even if it wasn't the best. Yeah, they had no future. Yeah, I that's something you could bring up as just like an obscure, like random gem of just like, oh, fuck, yo, you want to check out something quirky that has like the most non like a creative world and setting. But you've got some cool combat and you've got some pretty good armor designs, too. It's also fairly like beefy in terms of content.
Starting point is 02:42:21 Yeah, large continent, large continent. You you could run and move through large the the open areas for a while. There was a bit of that like solo or single player MMO feeling at points. Oh, absolutely. Where like, I remember like at one point you could go through the forest and then you kind of make it out the end and then you kind of you can just wander through some fields until you hit desert, you know, and then like you start picking up desert and PC quests and it's like, oh, fuck,
Starting point is 02:42:49 like, should I even be here, you know? No. Yeah, but it is. It is. In fact, it is also the others. There's some blind, there's some blind and all that too, you know, so. But again, it's like if you are the type of person who is interested in checking out these like quirky things in postmortem, you know, I would almost say like I wish that if there was a way to just kind of like cheat your way into having like a max level
Starting point is 02:43:22 and then like just getting all your points that you can just like hit the tree and build yourself up a character, it would be fun to like dick around in that game at max level for a while. Like you could have some fun just dicking around with that. Yeah. And, you know, and there was a little bit of like, how do you want to play talking to these NPCs, you know, like little like not not anywhere near like Bioware level or anything, but just there was there was like you could be you could choose how you wanted to play out some circumstances
Starting point is 02:43:53 a little bit too, because you have to like pick sides between the races and stuff. That's one of those games that I like. I like that it's feel so much that I was I just desperately wanted to be better than it was. Mm hmm. That makes any sense. Just like, oh, yeah, dude, the whole time I was on it, the whole time I was on it, you know, I was like, can we like, you know, like just like you want to write because there's you're sometimes you're you write like bugs in the database,
Starting point is 02:44:24 but it's just a suggestion, you know, and and like, you know, like if you wanted to, you could find a roundabout way to be like, you know, at the last swing of this hammer, the fire doesn't explode as heavily as it does on the other swings. Oh, man, that's please make you know, or whatever the fuck. But, um, so that's a bug. The fire, the explosion. Clearly, I'll swing isn't big enough. Clearly, the explosion on the previous swings is meant to be weaker.
Starting point is 02:45:05 So it would be inconsistent if the player then would have their largest swing, not create a large enough explosion. Please ensure that the hammer weapons explosions are consistent. With the player's expectations. Yes, about right. Well, anyway, there's a Kickstarter campaign for a game called Steam dolls order of chaos. All right, let's take a look at this.
Starting point is 02:45:33 And Steampunk Metroidvania are the words you're looking for. All right. There's a third word in here and it's not a word. It's a name and the name is David Hader. Oh, cool. So I got a I remember seeing the trailer for this actually a little while back. And then I guess they just launched the Kickstarter for it. But yeah, pretty, pretty cool character design here.
Starting point is 02:46:01 And David Hader is, you know, voicing the whisper. And, you know, you can hear it. That's that's David. He's doing the thing, although he's more of a zealot and kind of a little bit crazy sounding. OK. Says it's inspired by, you know, games like Castlevania, Hollow Knight, Dead Cells, Bloodborne, Dishonored. It's nice to hear like Hollow Knight be put into like the inspired by.
Starting point is 02:46:32 Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. It's nice. It's there. It's it's it's already a classic. So yeah, everything gameplay wise looks interesting. And, you know, like. I'm I'm curious to see how this plays out. And yeah, David Hader, good guy could always use another good Metroidvania. Nice art style. Melee, attacks, air dashing, stealth.
Starting point is 02:47:05 All that shit. Animation looks a little stiff, but I'm not sure if that's final. Yeah, so once again, you can check that out. It's Steam Dolls on Kickstarter. It's at currently 80 K Canadian of their goal of 45. So they are healthy. They're super healthy. They're in stretch right now.
Starting point is 02:47:35 Cool. Oh, David Hader's voice was actually a stretch goal. Oh, OK. And then they hit it so that that would explain why they're sitting comfy. And then it says they also hit the last stretch goal. They hit was the Metal Gear Vocal Reunion. Well, that bag. Yeah. Oh, Otacon.
Starting point is 02:48:09 Christopher Randolph is also going to be involved. But will they kiss, though? I mean, after all this time, what have we been building up for? Yeah. So there you go. There's another Kickstarter that popped up and that is Wackfoo, the animated series, Season 4. So I talked about this a long time ago, started it and was like, oh, shit, OK, this is pretty cool. I'm still interested in eventually making my way through to see how this plays out because I have been sold on some of the things about I've heard about it, namely what plague brought up.
Starting point is 02:49:00 But yeah, apparently it's getting a fourth season in the form of a Kickstarter. And it's already super funded. And it's already super funded. They're at 561 K out of pledged 151 K goal. Canadian. OK. So they're incredibly happy. That was easy. Yeah. It's a beloved series, you know, not surprising. But the first season sport weren't Kickstarter.
Starting point is 02:49:34 Were they? I don't know. I don't I didn't think I didn't hear about it being that I thought it was just kind of just like solo made project and then eventually went to Netflix and then got more like momentum and studio stuff behind it. I heard something like that, but I'm not sure. I don't remember public French TV. OK. Season three was a kickstarted. There we go.
Starting point is 02:50:04 So, yeah, they originally were looking for 100 100,000 euro for three episodes, and then they hit four and then five episodes. And then basically every 100,000 euro adds another episode to the season. So, yeah, that's going on, too. How they didn't write anything yet, because that's a weird way to. Yeah, of course, that's that's the first thing that like I when I saw that I was like, well, yeah, you have to write with the episode number in mind,
Starting point is 02:50:38 please, of course, holy shit, that would be terrible. Like if they stopped on another adventure, if they stopped at a weird number like seven, you know, then they'd have to like like stretch the like figure out, figure out your thing. Yeah, exactly. Like have a plan for that, you know, so anyway. That's happening as well. Um. Did we talk?
Starting point is 02:51:12 No, I guess we didn't. OK, I'm looking back on it. Yeah, I don't think we brought it up, but something that got announced actually was a new samurai showdown Neo Geo collection. Really? OK. That includes one, two, three, four, five, five special six. And a brand new, unreleased game called Five Perfect. OK, so there is a new version of Samurai Showdown five coming out that has never
Starting point is 02:51:47 it come out that we're going to see and who knows, but it's, you know, five per five special is is generally the the classic samurai showdown game of choice competitively and everything on this collection has rollback. I was just about to I was waiting for you to tell me that like or just like, and that'll be coming out and I'll be like, just have rollback and I go, but good, yay. Yeah. Doesn't this talk kind of invalidate real samurai showdown?
Starting point is 02:52:22 No, it's this is every game except for the 2019 game. Yeah, I know, but that doesn't have rollback. It doesn't have rollback. You're correct. So it doesn't. It's a different game. Yeah, but doesn't that mean that if you want a good samurai showdown game, you're probably better off getting this collection? I mean, good game versus the online experience, I would say, yeah.
Starting point is 02:52:49 This is a fun world that we're living in with this rollback shit, because I wouldn't say that samurai showdown 2019 is a bad game, but it is a game that does not have rollback, which fucking sucks. Boy, does it not. But you and I use words differently. You see? Yeah, that's true. I like to use a lot of conclusive power words. I tend to give the benefit of the doubt.
Starting point is 02:53:20 Oh, it is bad. It's not just it's not just. It's not just the fact that it's like not rollback. It's also bad not rollback. Oh, yeah, yeah, totally, totally, totally. So this is a good sign with this release. And the game is about to the 2019 is, you know, getting its PC port. You know, there's characters for like that just came out because the season was going up until about a month ago when like Iroha came out
Starting point is 02:53:54 and makes me kind of wonder if like they are considering their rollback options since, you know, the other shit they're putting out right now has it. Yeah, a bunch of people. What company was it? Was it not ArcSys? It was French spreads looking at rollback now and it was somebody else. Yeah, guilty gear. No, no, no, no, no, a dev that had prior never mentioned the word rollback going, hey, yeah, we're thinking about rollback.
Starting point is 02:54:22 That seems should seems good. Well, that that that dev on that dev on on French spread. There was a clarifying statement that came out to say like, oh, well, he doesn't speak for the studio or something like that. Oh, fuck off. Why would you? Why? Why? You know, it's like, oh, I really like oranges. He does not speak with the for the studio.
Starting point is 02:54:46 Oranges are not popular at the studio. Well, I guess it's because if they don't say that and then nothing happens, then they are now taking heat over something that was said. That was a lot. Yeah, take the heat, bitches. As opposed to making not making the poor decision, you know. The difference between we didn't announce shit and like you made it not good. Make it good, though. That's my statement.
Starting point is 02:55:19 Yeah, his Twitter bio says my views are my own. So, hey, can't hold anyone accountable. I don't think that's ever worked for anyone. Watch it stand in court. I've now I don't think that has worked for anyone once. The Supreme Court justices will look at your Twitter bio Twitter bio and it'll say my views are my own and they will be like, well, that's the end of that. RBG, how about we take lunch?
Starting point is 02:55:57 We're good. We're good. End of conversation. Until Judge Judith Shynland gets in here. Judge so much for Supreme Court. Yeah, dude. It's not going to take that shit. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:56:22 Wow. Is that just like is that? Yeah, that is really just tanking top of Judge Judy, isn't it? It's it's it's it's it's it's you know, she's got to shoot past television eventually to the theatrical era where, you know, if we can get a Judge Judy movie, that would be her choginga. And then when she eventually gets to the to the final stage. Yep.
Starting point is 02:56:52 Yep. I watched so much of that fucking show. Did you know that Hannibal Burris was on it? I did not know that Hannibal Burris was on it. Hannibal Burris was on an episode of Judge Judy because his landlord was like, why the fuck you ain't paying the rent? And he was like, yeah, I don't know, man. I think that combination of words that you just said are the most hilarious
Starting point is 02:57:21 and fucking ironic things I have ever heard in my life. Hannibal Burris was on Judge Judy for not paying his landlord. Yep. Yep. And you can hear about it more in Hannibal Burris's hit single called Judge Judy in which he celebrates her releasing, I think, one thousand episodes. Dude, he released a song called Judge Judy. And you know what?
Starting point is 02:58:02 Guess what? What? It's a banger. It's a fucking hot track. It's pretty good. Right? And yeah. He, you know, in the song, he celebrates the fact that she's had 5,200 episodes.
Starting point is 02:58:25 That's insane. She's had 52 episodes. And back in 2003, he was a defendant that that was not paying his rent. Why are you not paying your rent? I don't know, man. Both of those impressions were the worst. Holy shit. And now Hannibal himself is a landlord yelling at people to pay their rent.
Starting point is 02:58:52 There you go. Success is lit, man. It's the best. It's like that Batman thing. He said he didn't pay the rent for a thousand weeks. Oh, Jesus Hannibal. Well, um, yeah. You can, you can check out the song.
Starting point is 02:59:17 It's pretty good. And Hannibal's a fucking squatter. That's all there is to it. Squatter turned landlord. That's the American dream. Yes. Well, anyway. I, I again, I don't tell me how you feel about this.
Starting point is 02:59:43 Okay. Because I didn't use to, I tried to generally avoid like super unconfirmed things on the docket. I don't like rumors on the docket that much because if you do, then there's almost always some bullshit. Oh, there's crazy shit all the time. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:00:00 You know, and like at one point it was just like smash rumors. I'm just like, get that the fuck away from me. You know what I mean? Like I don't need some idiot kids threads of attention to get his high schools friends impressed. Like, so, um, you know, and at some point I was like, okay, well, if, if depends on where I'll grab it from, if they seem to quote a source that has been verified before, then maybe, you know, but, um, do you, do you like, I don't know, would you rather like, uh,
Starting point is 03:00:28 rumors on the docket or no? Depends on because if it's nothing, then it's nothing, you know, but if it's something that something is the bloodborne shit. No. Okay. This is, this is village. Oh, what about it? Um, bloody disgusting, uh, apparently has a some unconformed rumors that come from where
Starting point is 03:01:00 is this bio hazard declassified. So I should say the bloody disgusting is usually pretty all right. That was kind of the thought process. Yeah. Um, and now this. Tab is playing music fuck off with their trip that please stop it. Well, you can't do that. People make a clip.
Starting point is 03:01:26 Um, so it also includes spoilers in the rumors. So I'm going to dodge those. Um, it says the stuff about who the villain is for our eight and there's a flashlight mechanic and stuff like that. Yes, exactly. Yeah. Ethan makes a return playable character named Emily, uh, looking for her father. Um, similar to RE four where a cult is worshiping.
Starting point is 03:01:55 Um, the creatures created from a new virus and, um, uh, yeah, flashlight mechanic hallucination factor, um, corrupted air and, um, someone named Alan are living in a castle near the village where the game takes place. Now, all I have to say about that rumor is that that sounds really surprising. Okay. Well. Uh, but yeah, so, uh, do bring these things up then. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:02:42 Why not? Fuck it. All right. Cool. More resident evil eight leaks suggest a cult. Capcom leaps like a fucking sieve. I'll just tell you people that right now. Like leaks that come out of Capcom are like 80% on point almost every time.
Starting point is 03:02:59 It's really ridiculous. Mm hmm. It's really absurd. If the rumors are good things, people tend to get happy though. So it doesn't hurt them. No, not like a simp, like a sieve guys, like a thing that leaks. Rumors can be an interesting form of, um, marketing in an unintended way where it can serve as a soft announcement for something almost.
Starting point is 03:03:32 You know, depending on, on how reliable the sources. Yeah. But yeah, anyway. Yeah, the resident evil eight's been leaking out like constantly. Like it's, it's really funny actually. Like what's the name, like the name of the game and then the, the announcement and all that stuff. I feel like ever since RE2 started, like, like, um, the ever since RE2 was about
Starting point is 03:04:06 to come out, it feels like a resident evil franchise has had a consistent train of rumors flying out of Capcom and into everyone's hands. That's about right. And again, like as long as people are, you know, generally excited by what they hear, it doesn't necessarily hurt them. Yeah. But, uh, yeah. It's, it's how do I.
Starting point is 03:04:40 Capcom is doing a lot of good stuff. And I look at the, the batch of RE8 leaks that came out. When, when was this published? The rumor leak, the rumor that you're talking about right now. Well, I mean, everything on my docket is from this week, but. No, no, no, I mean the date, like the specific date. June 7th. What was that Thursday?
Starting point is 03:05:09 That was one day ago. June 7th. Okay. Cause remember when Sony was supposed to have that big event last week that is now for the 11th? I always wonder when those events go off or don't go as planned, whether or not people get frustrated and just start talking or, you know, databases with CMSs just go live when they're not supposed to.
Starting point is 03:05:38 Sometimes a company will go, well, fuck it. We'll just make our own event and do the, this, this, that or whatever. Or they'll just be like, well, you were supposed to see this on stage. But since there's no stage, here you go. Here's a trailer. I wonder if we'll see Resident Evil 8 Village on Thursday at the Sony thing. That would be really crazy and very surprising. That would line up with the idea of perhaps these rumors are coming from
Starting point is 03:06:12 someone who is working on that, that saw a trailer. Yeah. You know. Yeah. It does. It does line up with that, doesn't it? So what's this about? Bloodborne?
Starting point is 03:06:27 PC. That's the rumor. Sony? Yeah. Did you miss Horizon Zero Dawn coming to PC? Yes. I forgot about that. You're right.
Starting point is 03:06:41 True, true, true. And Dead Rising. I'm not Dead Rising. And they let Kojima bring Death Stranding to. Yeah. It's become, and Microsoft's putting all its games on PC. It just looks like console exclusives are going to come to PC now. They'll probably be delayed a year, but they'll come.
Starting point is 03:07:02 Which is kind of crazy. Yeah. That is, I will, I thought for a second you were going to say that like there's rumors about like Bloodborne 2 or something? There are, but I mean, I have tiny bitch baby rumors about that. Like they're garbage. They're not trustworthy. Would you rather, not would you rather, how would you feel about
Starting point is 03:07:36 Bloodborne 2 being confirmed, but not by Fromsoft? What? I don't care about it if it's not from Fromsoft. That's what I thought. Yeah. Like I don't care about this discussion if we're not talking about from like. Someone picking up the pieces like, like Kotor 2? Yeah.
Starting point is 03:07:58 No. No, thanks. Christ. I mean, think about the kerfuffle that happened when Dark Souls 2 was made by a different team in Fromsoftware. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 03:08:10 Yeah. You know, and you just have to think like, what's, what's, how much of the force is currently on Elden Ring? A lot. That game's the next gen title. I mean, it would have to be right now. All of it? No, not all of it.
Starting point is 03:08:28 Yeah. They staffed up. They're big now. There was, there was a, there was a, like, I think it was Dust Golem, a guy who leaks, like a guy from Recetera, but he has leaked shit for like a decade now. And he just, like, I think it was like just this weird non-committal statement that was, a lot of good stuff coming out of Fromsoftware. And it's like, thanks for the nothing.
Starting point is 03:09:00 Okay. Well, I suppose we'll find out. I have some suspicions, big suspicions, but, you know, it's tough. Because every time somebody tells you anything, it's always, so I heard from a guy and you have to not only judge their own veracity, but whether or not the guy they heard it from was the shit also. Also, the last time they heard from a guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:09:35 You know? That all matters. But, yeah. Boy, I sure would be surprised to see Resident Evil 8 at the Sony show on Thursday. That'd be crazy. You think, what are the chances you think they make a statement on the current affairs at the show? They'll say some bullshit.
Starting point is 03:10:10 I imagine. They'll say some crap that means nothing, but it'll make somebody somewhere feel okay about their balls. Probably, probably, yeah, 100% pre-taped, yeah. Yeah, it'll be like, you know, hey, we really like support everybody out there, but let's talk about video games and they'll be like, do you know, do you think there'll be like a really tone-deaf moment where they're like, they try and take a game and they're like, hey, you know who else has a long history of fighting injustice?
Starting point is 03:10:51 Kratos. Oh my god, dude. Listen, listen, like, like, no, I, I, the foot in mouth, the foot in mouth, I think, is going to happen a little bit further down the line. Um, somewhere, in some way, but I, I, no, I can't, I can't, I can't, dude. I absolutely can't. Want to be the best. No, no.
Starting point is 03:11:31 You know. Just. That'd be good stuff. I mean, like, that would let Mike off the hook. That would be like, oh yeah, that was that right out of the news. That would be ridiculous, dude. Anyway, do you remember that guy, that bald looking dude who was staring off into space and talking about the police state and all that shit.
Starting point is 03:12:00 And then he segwayed into like infamous second son at that E3. I don't. Oh dude, it was actually, it's like, dude, just do that. But for this, like, it's actually pretty close. I bet I could fucking pull it up. Give me two seconds. It was, it was an infant. God, I hope it was infamous because if it was a different game, this is going to be really.
Starting point is 03:12:27 Uh, infamous second son reveal. I don't want the trailer. I want the fucking guy talking about there. Yeah. It totally was. Oh my God, it's even talking about how the police are always there to help you. So giant political statement. And then it's that it reveals what it's about at the end.
Starting point is 03:12:55 Fucking here. Look, I sent it to you. Just watch it for like 15 seconds. It's hilarious. This is from E3. Oh boy. This is E3 one year. Oh, many years ago.
Starting point is 03:13:07 All right, let's see here. Sucker Punch Productions unleashes infamous second son trailer. Okay, well, this is a video of a guy talking. Yeah. Oh, you're talking about the not the trailer for the game itself, the guy talking himself. Yeah, the guy said. Oh, I attended a political rally and I got tear gas and I thought the cops were there to help. Here infamous second son.
Starting point is 03:13:39 And it was like, it was hilarious. It was fucking. It was so toned up. Okay. Yeah, that's just don't do that. That's stupid. They're going to do it. They're doing it right now.
Starting point is 03:14:03 I can't, I can't wait for. I can't wait for a Sony to unveil their new game, riot squad. You have to take back the city. Things that aged like milk. Oh, what was that? Zero tolerance. No, that was urban chaos. Oh man.
Starting point is 03:14:31 No, I thought it was use tolerance because it was supposed to be. It was supposed to be called zero tolerance because it got renamed. But when the first opening line of the game happens, the cop jumps out and he kicks the thing and he's the girl. A smoke blow grade blows up or whatever and some guy guys get blown away and then the cop goes, now that's what I call zero tolerance and it's capitalized in his subtitle because it's the name of the game, but it's not the name of the game anymore. So yeah.
Starting point is 03:15:04 Oh man. If you want a fucking tidbit of trivia on that from QA world, if you go back to the beginning of urban chaos. You were telling me about that and you bugged it and you're like, you changed the name of the game, morons? Yeah. Go back to. Did you fucking forget?
Starting point is 03:15:27 If you can track down, if you want to go back, you can, you know, see the subtitles on the beginning of that game, but it's a pre-recorded dialogue sequence. It's like they got the voice actor to say the name of the game and he delivered the truly we were the final fantasy 13 line and then they changed the name of the game. What are you supposed to do? You know, so. Now that's what I call urban chaos like fuck. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:15:55 So anyway. All I'm trying to say is if I see a chronic dream logo, I'm just going to take a shit. Yeah. I'm going to take a huge shit. Get ready. Huge. Get ready. Are you excited to shit your pants?
Starting point is 03:16:15 I'm going to churn it up. I'm going to build up to it. Yeah. Okay. Well, I'll hold you to that if you there's a chronic dream logo and I don't hear stories of you shitting. I'm going to call you out. Oh man, dude, just the absolute undercutting of their own message by saying, Hey, a lot
Starting point is 03:16:51 of you guys wanted to have your fucking robot slave back on the main menu. So we let you bring her back. The one you freed is always going to be free. But this one's a different one. Stay. Yeah. No, I like Liam tweeted out calling it little dick energy and I'm and it's like, yeah, that's about correct.
Starting point is 03:17:13 Yeah, that's about right. That's about right. So it is a it like there are fewer companies that need to double down on their silence than quantity. I like that. Double down on your silence. That's good. I like that.
Starting point is 03:17:36 Shut the fuck up, guys. That game didn't bitch out near automata. Mm hmm. That's a good game. This cannot continue is a pretty good protest. Yeah, I would say. Yeah, it would be it would have been cool if that got adopted at some point. Yeah, they start doing we shall become as gods and then stuff starts to get a little
Starting point is 03:18:09 out of hand starts getting a little out of hand. No, the there was there was a like a sonic sign saying like a racism and police brutality. That's no good, you know, and I'm just like, we can we can we can geek it up a little harder. We can get a little harder. I feel like we're in a wild new world in which like protests and political descent of the day are also unlike the past. Just shock full of shit memes.
Starting point is 03:18:39 Mm hmm. Mm hmm. But dank. Do you you want your unrest because it's getting dank. But like unironically, this cannot continue is a strong sentence. Yeah, that's that's pretty good. Actually, you know, so let's take some emails. Hey, if you want to send an email, send it to Castle Super Beast Mail at gmail.com.
Starting point is 03:19:05 That's Castle Super Beast Mail gmail.com got one coming in from Alice says I was listening to old podcasts. Dear Punch Daddy and Ginger saliva. I was listening to old podcasts and the bit about the colostomy bag being a weak point. Gave me a thought. Does can showing someone with hemorrhoids inflict bleed? Yeah, it does. It literally does.
Starting point is 03:19:37 You ever have handroids? Not really. It sucks, dude. It hurts your ass. At what point do you cut your fingers off? Pardon? The person who can chose you. That's done.
Starting point is 03:20:03 It's over. You lose your fingers, right? I'm sorry. What? I genuinely don't understand. Why would I cut my own fingers off if I can't show somebody? If you can't show somebody who had hemorrhoids and you inflicted bleed on them. Yeah, you also inflicted that shit blood on your fingers.
Starting point is 03:20:23 I mean, I figured that I was ready for it considering I was ready to get the poop on there anyway. I would say it's time to just lose your fingers and or die. I don't think you should be cancelling people if this is the kind of attitude you're going to have towards your own fingers post-game. I agree. I agree. It's a bad way to go.
Starting point is 03:20:47 And if you, what are you going to do? You're going to put some soft gloves on it that loosens the impact. Softens the bloke. Like a woolen glove for like a... God, that's so horrifying. That's so fucking gross. You're the one who just said it. Well, the question came up, but, you know, I'm like, what about your...
Starting point is 03:21:14 All right, we need to stop. Why are you doing this? You got fingernails, man. I don't. I chew those things. It's disgusting, but hey, it means that I won't cut someone's asshole if I happen to attack them in their asshole. The answer, I suppose, then is yes to the question.
Starting point is 03:21:39 That's fine. Oh yeah, absolutely. Having hemorrhoids is tough. You ever have anal fissures? That's terrible. Yep, I've had the cuts, the cuts I have had, and that is fucking annoying. I'll tell you right now, Wolves, that's about the experience somebody with hemorrhoids would have. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 03:22:00 The only thing worse than that is the fact that you're shitting into an open wound. Yeah. Which is pretty awful. Not great. That was a rough, rough point. And until it heals, every trip to the bathroom is agony, exactly. Just straight up. Anyway.
Starting point is 03:22:26 What if I just didn't shit for like 10 days? Would that solve it? The answer is yes, but it would give you a new, possibly worse problem. Duke wants to know, I'm sure you, like most people, have thought about what your fatalities would be in Mortal Kombat, but what would your friendship be? I've got one. What do you got? My friendship in Mortal Kombat would be me pulling out a Neo Geo pocket color connected by wire,
Starting point is 03:22:59 and I'd hand it to the opponent, and then we'd squat and start playing, and it would be like the Sakura versus Kyo art. Okay. Where he's losing and she's winning, and it's like, yeah. We'd be playing Neo Geo pocket color together. I would bake a cake and give the person a cake. Because a good way to become friends with somebody is to give them candy. Well, I wouldn't classify cake as candy.
Starting point is 03:23:28 I just, I just, I don't, you know, I don't remember when I started to do it, but I started to call everything that had sugar in it candy. Yeah, no, no, no, it's a nice treat, but it's not candy. That's stupid. Yeah, well, we're going on the rule set of things Paige tells me I can't eat as candy. So, cake is candy. No, cake is a class and candy is our class. She also calls everything cakes, like muffins, as has been discussed.
Starting point is 03:24:00 Yeah, well, I'm not getting into that shit, like fuck that nonsense. But, but, you know, there are, they're like cakes and candy are both like high up on the, on the, the folder hierarchy. There's a lot of, there's a lot of shit. Oh man, I want to, I'm a date for now. Now, now. And I haven't been like, it's been years and years and years and years since I've like just ate in a whole cake. Now, here's the thing, my grandmother's manner of speaking might actually come in to help you here.
Starting point is 03:24:41 How's that? Because there was a word she would use to describe both of those things. She would call them sweets. Yeah, that's true. Candy and cake were classified as sweets. Yeah, that's true. So, if you want to use your language, you can be a little more accurate there. Why would I want to use my language correctly?
Starting point is 03:25:04 It's not like I have a job related to language. I'm just some dumb video game man. Oh man, you know what that reminds me of Woolly? The scrub quote equivalent of talking to people on the internet, which was just like, yeah, I think so and so is actually stupid anyway. I never take their opinion seriously. It's like, stop following me on Twitter then dumbass. Oh man, hasn't the past like week or two just been fucking sick for getting shitheads off your social media? Well, it sounds like you've been on that ride and flexing it, but you know, I don't flex the button as much as other people do.
Starting point is 03:25:57 I flex it very rarely because I'm content to just see the shit because at the end of the day, it's like, okay, and then here you go. Here's my phone. Here's the button. No, my phone's over here. You know, the life continues for me was what for the block button. What was when I realized that this particular type of person, the one that demands that you debate them in DMs. How they lose their fucking mind when you block them. I see.
Starting point is 03:26:31 That's why you don't need it, right? Oh, no. Well, you shouldn't. I don't think muting is what you should do in almost any situation. Muting is like, this person's all right, but they're stupid and I don't want to hear them. Well, the thought process there is they will never know, but little, you know, or whatever. If you particularly have a big follow list, right? If you got a lot of followers, muting people kind of sucks because your followers also have to deal with them, even if you don't.
Starting point is 03:27:01 Right? Right. I get that. But like I said, for me, I don't give a fuck. Yeah. It's enjoyable. There it is. It's very fun to do.
Starting point is 03:27:13 I would not ever. I'm not recommending my course of action, but for me personally, I don't fucking care, dude. It doesn't. You also like the cringe. I don't need to shield. You're born in the cringe. I don't need to shield myself from the absolute shit fit mess that's about to occur. Oh, woolly, woolly, woolly.
Starting point is 03:27:33 Don't misunderstand. It's not a shield. It's a sword. Okay. It's not. It's not. I don't want to see what you're saying. It's I want to take your ability to say it to me away.
Starting point is 03:27:50 Hmm. Because that's where the pain comes in. That's that's the that's the. That's where the anger comes in. And most is there anything more pathetic for real than getting blocked by somebody on a social media and then running to their significant other to beg them to get unblocked? Hmm. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:28:21 Yeah, it's not great. That's a bad look. It's it's really funny. No, but I was just going to say the often times the course of action plays out in such a way that like dumb thing is said and then other people that are like interacting in the thread will just go, that was dumb. And then someone else goes, that was really dumb. And then it'll be like, it'll just play itself forward anyway.
Starting point is 03:28:50 You know, the sword or no sword almost, but. Yeah. Yeah, that's what it is. You know, there's in there's in the you you also you guys have mastered the art of the dunk, so to speak. Well, I wouldn't say I've mastered. I'm still learning peaches, though. She's been spending a long time on that shit.
Starting point is 03:29:15 Hmm. I don't know why people still try. Yeah, I generally go a different way. But every once in a while, there's definitely some again, there's some straw men that are like, are you real? I want to poke. Yes, they are. I want to poke the straw and find out if you're real.
Starting point is 03:29:36 It rains on them and they kind of melt. Hmm. Yeah. And of course, I'm always open to the possibility that somewhere deep down inside a you might actually start making sense somewhere, which extremely unlikely. But, you know, you never know. That's you never know. Adorable.
Starting point is 03:30:05 I have seen people like threads ending in apologies and mind and and and and a and a hmm. Okay, I've seen it, but it's wild. It's wild to ever fucking expect it for sure. But more so than that, I was going to say, is your other conclusion in the, as I mentioned earlier, God, I'm so lonely, you know, so lonely. Shameless. And then when I and then when I hit that button, you'll just be one person lonely or
Starting point is 03:30:36 Oh, shamelessly, hopelessly addicted to hentai. Oh, poor bit of. Pepper says they're really infinite and void Lord Pat recently hearts recently hearts stone. Okay. What is going on with this email? Is it written like that? No, recently hearthstone, but my my brain jumped ahead to the noise.
Starting point is 03:31:03 So I said, recently, because it created a lisp where there was known because of the word hearthstone. So recently hearthstone released a new expansion, which included a new character class, the demon hunter, decided to check it out, had some initial fun. After a short bit, I eventually hit a losing streak and lost my damn mind, hit to tilt really hard. And, you know, I used to hit it even harder, but I got better in recent years, sent me over the age edge into rage territory.
Starting point is 03:31:34 I'm not proud of it. And when my spouse noticed what was going on, she said, Oh, it's that game you hate. And then it hit me. Anytime I go back to this game, I lose my shit and get frustrated. Souls never did this to me, but hearthstone for whatever reason gets under my skin easily deleted the game then and there, because I just it just wasn't worth it. You ever made yourself stop playing a game because you recognized it's bad for you? Yeah, but I usually recognize, like, as part of the process, like, or like, it's not like
Starting point is 03:32:07 something I'll play for a long time, but I'll realize I'll just be like, I'll spend an afternoon with something and be like, I hate this. This is making me just pissed off. Yeah. This is I'm like, not much comes to mind because I feel like there's a lot of cases where when I know that I don't know a lot like I don't enjoy, but I super don't mind the thrashings because I'm like, oh, there's so much more to get here. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 03:32:40 But when I do, there's definitely like, OK, so the closest thing I can think of is there would be nights where I would go out to our locals and I would enter a tournament and then I would do like casuals. And if I did badly in tournament and then in casuals, I did like a long set and just got absolutely nowhere that would like spoil the night. I'd come back home and I'd feel bummed out. And that's the closest thing I can think of because you'd basically be like, well, fuck me, like I failed my test to see where I'm at and it looks like I've gone backwards in
Starting point is 03:33:19 progress. And a lot of the times it's like the person you're fighting will be like, actually, I've been grinding in this matchup and I've been leveling it up and I've been trying new things out and I've been specifically trying to beat you, you know, so and then I'd be like, OK, OK, OK, cool, cool, cool. So now we've got to take it to the next level. But there was a couple of times when I'd be like, I'm why am I worse right now? What is happening?
Starting point is 03:33:41 And you just don't even know what's going on. And you're not even accounting for like who you're fighting against and then like you end up like, yeah, I've got home feeling sour, you know, a couple of times with that. But the full on like I'm addicted and then I come back and then super tilt and then like don't recognize it and like where it's like it's a bad state of mind. Like I don't think I've had that. Yeah, I tend to recognize very quickly if something's making me like horribly miserable. Like there was a period when I was playing dead by daylight a while ago before some changes
Starting point is 03:34:24 were there. I was just furiated. I stopped playing it for a couple months came back. That's good. If there's a game where like mechanically, I just can't wrap my head around it or it just doesn't seem fun to me. I'll catch that fairly quickly, you know, and I'll and I'll oftentimes like I'll say it outright.
Starting point is 03:34:44 I'll just be like, hey, you know what, this is not fun for me. Like I understand what it's asking me to do, but I don't enjoy that process. And at that point, I wouldn't go further into it. I would just back off, you know. I've seen a lot of people say overwatch like an astonishing amount of people play overwatch. And you know what, I think it I think that is the one that the only one I could think of the did follow this pattern where overwatch had so much good going on and I played it and I would just get pissed off every single time.
Starting point is 03:35:16 And I had like a full week of playing overwatch every night and coming away fucking miserable. And I was like, what am I? What am I doing? Bummer. We get overwatch classic, please. I mean, shit, like. They did announce overwatch two, didn't they? Oh, I forgot that fucking thing existed.
Starting point is 03:35:54 Yeah, me too. Last but not least got one coming in here. With the title, I was canceled for racism to the Lords of CSB in the wake of the murder of George Floyd, some idiot racist white teenagers started a social media challenge where they physically reenacted the position he died in person on the ground and another with the knee on the neck was a huge problem for many reasons, which are all incredibly obvious. Yep, I did see that too. It became more of a problem for me specifically, though, when one particular very viral
Starting point is 03:36:33 post included one of the kids names in the corner and he happens to have the exact same name as me. Also, one of the two kids looks strikingly similar to me. It should be obvious, but I was neither of those kids. Over the course of about a week now, I've had waves of dozens of people targeting me trying to ruin my life in whatever ways they can. I've made numerous public statements with sufficient evidence that I'm not them, including the news article in which they are arrested days before on a different continent.
Starting point is 03:37:04 But nevertheless, new people show up every day to harass family members in whatever channels they can to get me. What's the worst mix up you've ever been roped in and how did it turn out? I've never been mixed up. I'm too obviously myself. Well, there is the other guy with your name. Yeah. That is also in media and arts and in the city.
Starting point is 03:37:31 Yes. But he's cool. So that's the closest thing I can imagine. How many other woolly Madden's are there? One. Really? Yes. Huh.
Starting point is 03:37:50 This is news to you. Is this way? Why are you acting so shocked? Because it's the one that I have to defeat. Oh, it's your dad. I forgot your dad knew after himself. Because wouldn't your name then be woolly junior? Yeah, but not when it gets not not when it's just like first name, last name.
Starting point is 03:38:20 No, you're woolly junior now. But I'm not. Unless you get your own woolly, then you become woolly senior. I can grab you identification where we have the same identification name on our cards. Okay, but you've never been mixed up with your dad. Not mixed up with no, but the same name is there. Ultimately. So there's one other.
Starting point is 03:38:46 This is about mix ups, woolly. The whole context implied that there'd be a completely different. No, I was answering your question of there's no other woolly madden is there and I said there's one. This is it was just answering your question. You asked me a direct question that I answered. It was not saying that I was your dad's email address. I'm going to bitch at him for this. Okay, well.
Starting point is 03:39:14 You know, I was just following up on the most confusing read for him in the world. But yes. Sorry to hear that. The wrong guy. That's a fucking shitty rough one. And no one will ever take a second to stop and maybe notice that. Which, yeah. Especially if like you have to turn all of your like banners branding and photos to I'm not that guy.
Starting point is 03:39:49 I'm not like, you know, like that's that's a hard one. It does eventually in time go away. But like, sorry to hear that, man. Is that the podcast? That's the podcast. See what happens when you don't name your kids original names. You don't name them Sephiroth or Riku Khaleesi or Khaleesi. Oh, Khaleesi.
Starting point is 03:40:24 Oh, man. That's it. So, you know, maybe you should reconsider. Maybe you need to give them some dumb bullshit names. Maybe you can spare them these mix ups. Maybe. By the way, what the like what the fuck is is is forth those like Tim, Johnny, Spike and Mel are normal people.
Starting point is 03:40:47 What the fuck is forth those? Is that a character? Or it's the name of a D&D nerd, Lorhound sounding dumbass. I've never heard of like I've never heard of a person named forth those in my life. It's dude. It's it's like imagine you had a friend of yours, right? And they introduced you introduced themselves to you and said my name is like Sasuke. That's a forth those.
Starting point is 03:41:20 My name is X. A. A. 12. Yeah, see, there you go. There you fucking go. That gets fucked. It sucks. I feel so bad. But they're gonna you just kind of just you grab something else, right?
Starting point is 03:41:41 And you just roll with it. You just go, yeah, Bob, whatever, Leia, Greg, you know, you pick something. I mean, I've said it before, but my mother didn't want to name me Patrick because she hates the nickname Pat and does didn't want me to be referred to as Pat. And my dad was like, Oh, don't worry. No one will call him Pat. Everyone call him Patrick. Which gets funnier every year. Yeah, I think I mean, I'm expecting.
Starting point is 03:42:11 I fully expect upon that kid, you know, reaching the age of awareness that they'll just be like fucking just call me ash and shut up. Why couldn't you name me something's normal like soda pop? Well, wasn't there a wasn't there literally like a thing that was like for the sake of mental health and the child's life? We will not allow you to bullshit. You cannot put this hyphen in the name. Yeah, so. Turns out name your kid a bunch of weird bullshit caused them to become a target. Okay, wait, but we were just saying that naming them weird bullshit will avoid them from becoming a target.
Starting point is 03:42:55 So now what? Well, fuck. This is a problem. This is a problem. I guess you're fucked. You're fucked. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:44:25 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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