Castle Super Beast - CSB 073: The Animals Are Leaving
Episode Date: June 16, 2020Download for Mobile | Podcast Preview |Full Timestamps Then wtf is stopping us from just throwing ourselves off a bridge, and giving up, and yeah, the planet is dying, the government hates us, the ...animals are leaving, the aliens won't contact us, we might be alone, it just might be you and me, but that's ok, because do you really. need. anyone. else? You can watch us record the podcast live on twitch.tv/castlesuperbeast Outro: Final Fantasy VII Remake OST - Jenova (Phase 3) Persona 4 Golden now available for PC PS5 hardware revealed, includes standard and digital edition models Demon’s Souls remake announced for PS5 Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart announced for PS5 Horizon Forbidden West announced for PS5 Star Wars: Squadrons launches October 2 for PS4, Xbox One, and PC Windjammers 2 PC demo available from June 16 to 22 someone actually modded the giant robot fist gunlance into monster hunter world 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim, coming to PS4 on September 8
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You
Yes, good afternoon. How are you? I'm okay. Mm-hmm. I had a apparently there's a massive shit echo occurring
Yeah, well, I was trying out the the the headphones that you recommended. They're pretty good. They noise cancel great
The they're extremely comfy. They're very comfy. What was it that there the the the Bose
quiet comforts QC 35 twos, but but but
Trying in trying to get a perfectly wireless setup going on over on this side of things would be great for me to not have to
be tethered in
There's a basic like
Issue where the way things are set up. I can hear myself talking, you know and because there's a little bit of a
Bluetooth wireless
connector that is a receiver that kind of replaces
Where this headphone gets plugged in it's giving me back my voice at a delay
Which means I can hear myself about a fraction of a second after I say it and it throws you off and disorient you and you can't fucking talk
It's like a means it's like a method of like absolutely throw it fucking you up by making your voice hit you a little bit later
If I remember right there's some kind of military application for non-violent crowd dispersal
Which is appropriate considering the times
Which is just a machine that plays back your own voice at you by a couple milliseconds delay
It makes you basically unable to speak because it's so uncomfortable. Yeah
I like when I was talking to you just before we went live
I was struggling to get words out of my mouth
Like I felt like I was tripping over my tongue just because of that weird delayed echo
So I'm gonna have to figure out what's going on with that, but I'm sure it would be fine to just
Go directly to
The computer and then not hear my voice back
But like everything on the mixer is meant to like let you hear your voice plus
Whatever other voices that are plugged in on the microphones and then mix in the actual
computers audio with it, so
Yeah, I do I've gotten so used to that that like when I do calls on other systems or other setups, and I don't hear my voice back
I'm like, oh, that's hmm. It takes a second because I'm like I spent so much of my time
Sitting and talking into a microphone plugged into a mixer
Yeah, I've been I've been doing this headphone thing for a long time. In fact, I have a I have a
Pro tip variation for when your girlfriend is sitting over to your side
And you don't want to totally ignore her, but you want to maybe pretend like you didn't hear sometimes
instead of having the full
Call of duty or dead by daylight headphone setup
You just peek it back a little bit so you can hear just a little bit just a little bit so you can hear like what what is that?
Oh, yeah
No, I spend I spend I spend a lot of my time like with one headphone off for sure
That's a that's a normal, but I'll get you don't not all the way off all the way off gets rid of the sound
You want to just peek it a little bit?
So gonna have to look into that but you know otherwise the noise cancelling on them is the most aggressive I've ever seen it's
Pretty crazy isn't it pretty why I got I've flown on planes with it and it noise cancels the plane
Which is really crazy. I'm never gonna fly on a plane again because the world is going to end but
Still high-quality headphone. Yeah, I've got a air conditioning running, you know pretty frequently throughout
My house and it's pretty loud, so it comes in handy
speaking of air conditioning
Sometimes you don't have
a air conditioner
Sometimes you just need a fan
Now I am using a fan right now because my basement gets a little hot because of all the devices down here
Yep, and it's blowing some air on me and I feel chilled
But what if I needed a stronger fan a newer fan a fan for the future? Well
Sony has a device for you. It's called the ps5. Ah, I thought for a second you were gonna go back to my old
homemade air conditioning tech
No, no because that's still relevant talking about Sony's new omnidirectional fan
That will blow air on you
With all of its swoops and dupes
Are you referring to the PlayStation 5 I
Yes, that's why I said the PlayStation 5
It doesn't look like a fan to me. It looks like a router
People have literally posted like brands of fans that are the exact same design. Oh, yeah
I haven't seen them the white sides and swoops. I've only seen I yeah
You know you joke went over my head there because I only saw routers and
Modems, you know, which are all going into this high-collar fucking high-collar look
It's the first console. I've ever seen that popped its collar
So so hold that thought though because I wasn't finished talking about audio for a second because one other thing
I wanted to ask you about is remember you're you're pimping out RTX voice. I was
What was your final verdict on it?
My final verdict is that when I want to use it to do that I use it
But it represents about a 10% performance decrease. So I don't keep it on all the time. Okay
I've noticed that
after doing two
days of recording with it that
It really is miraculous and it does
Incredible and it does great when you are by yourself talking like this
When you are a group and you get loud it falls apart
Okay, so it completely stops being
Viable at that point, but like I was kind of like in in general
There was a like a
Occasional quality drop, you know, but like I was as monitoring the complaints and then they just came back in way too strong
Whenever there was like more than one person and when the volume kind of kicked up
So I guess that makes sense because it's like I don't know which one is the human because it's built for
Single persons. Yeah, I ran into a situation when I was streaming that
RTX says that page is not alive, right
That page is either a coffee machine or an air conditioner or room noise. Yeah, she was just being
Removed whole sale from almost any stream. It was hilarious
It was like I had a superpower. It's again, it is impressive, you know, I just it's not quite there yet
And I don't know maybe that's why it's also something where I had to run the the I had to edit the
The installer for it to run on on on on my my
Oh, yeah, no that no, that's just NVIDIA's proprietary bullshit right Terry crap. Yeah doesn't affect its effectiveness at all
So it's not quite there yet, but it's it's a really good step in that direction
I want to see the next iteration of that and or a competitive product that comes out to do the same thing
Perhaps maybe something where you can
Register and train the voices that it should isolate
So that it would be like hey, I know you and I know
This group of people and then everything else gets aggressively noise filtered. That would be pretty sick
They just just only cut out the or you could have
The opposite. Yeah, train it to ignore certain voices
Yes
Yes, you could that would be amazing that'd be amazing honey
Tell me a story and then you you surreptitiously just
Turn it on and then put that was a great story
You get your wireless headphones and get the noise canceling going and then you get the person canceling going
Yes, so
Pretty pretty good stuff. Um, I would like to remove this actors dialogue from this movie
Do it
Please get John Leguizamo out of this movie. Hey, man. He played a really dedicated clown
He ate those maggots in real life
Never never get it twisted he was dedicated to his role
The past
dedicate to these nuts
so
Thank you
knee PlayStation 5 is
You know what it it
I
Just got it. I'm so excited to hear what you have to say. I'm so excited. It makes the controller makes sense
It does it makes the controller design makes sense
I
Don't hate it. I don't I
Think when you see it
But there's I saw there's like the the like all black version with the blue lights on the thing and I was like, okay
Okay, I can kind of see what you're going for here
But I will say when it's a on its side and B
With the disc included it looks okay terrible
It needs to be but like like what the problem is
I am not gonna buy the version that has no disc on it because I want the option to use my physical media
But this with those discless version standing upright is the only version where aesthetically it makes sense to me
okay, so I
Like burst out laughing into like a kind of weird scream when I saw it of like that looks terrible
And then they later showed the the discless version
They later I had to go find a picture of it on its side
And on its side
the disc list version looks
Okay, I guess and standing up the disc list version looks fine, I guess, right?
But the standing one with the disk it looks deformed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no
I would never say that about a piece of electronics before fatty boom boom, but it's a PlayStation with a fatty boom boom
It looks
It looks like it has a congenital tumor from the factory
It's got junk in the trunk that you did a biopsy incision on shit's thick. It's thick. I just don't get I just don't get like
like like when you clearly designed this aesthetic for the discless version and
Then like it almost feels like they went okay wait hold on
We can't put the disc in the middle where the black part is right the disc slot
Clearly should have been in the middle where the black part is except all the guts are there
So it's too late. So they can't do it. So then they go well fuck it throw it up on the side here and then make it
You know, let me give it a give it a booty, but I gotta pull this thing's photo up. Yeah
No, same
It just it just doesn't it like it needs like that's the thing is like I don't hate the design
I think it looks clean when it is the digital version standing upright
That's that's that's what it is right now. Is that when you type in ps5?
You get all these these mock renders of weight about the bullshit. Yeah
Yeah, and never forget the Nintendo revolution the sphere with the fucking grid on it
So here's the thing right everyone we've been saying it for years and years
It doesn't matter what it looks like when it lives under sir under your TV thing
We're off to the side or whatever
It's just gonna be a box right who cares right?
This thing is also gigantic it's big
But fucking shoot now there's there is an expected return to
There's an expected return to like a large-sized thing since we're member we're at the end of a generation
So everything has it has had a chance to go slim
But like there's a side-by-side
Comparison and it is taller and wider than the original ps3
so um I
Have very significant margin on on your on your Euro gamer
Breakdown sheet that they put out
You can take a look at the yeah, it's a it's a size a side-by-side comparison of all PlayStation
three models ps4 models and Xbox 360 to Xbox one models and
Yeah, it is it is it is it is it is as wide as the original ps3 and it is as tall
It's taller than all of them. It's the tallest console
yeah
And it's like I'm looking at my
entertainment center
And I'm like I
Will have to measure to see if that fucking fits discipline doesn't learn discipline
I'm gonna have to jam all of my consoles into a corner
Across like in the fucking corner of my basement next to my PC, which is too large, right? Yeah to fit in an entertainment center
The only the only thing the only thing challenging its girth is
The Xbox Series X but that's because that's just a fridge
You know you like it is like I
Feel like this design is an actual response to the Microsoft design because the Microsoft is a fridge
It is a it is a but but it's not gonna have the the like the the depth
You know, um, right the real size comparison now to see who's going to be the king of all
big boys is
The original Xbox which was never meant to be on its side
How does fatty stack up to that?
It's a challenger
It's a challenger for sure because if you're looking at this thing tower over the original ps3 model
And then if we can google
um
It's much bigger Xbox original. I'm I'm literally looking at dimensions the
The original Xbox dimensions are 12 and a half inches by 4 inches by 10 and a half inches
And the ps5 is 14 inches tall damn
All hail castle VidCon. So this is the biggest. It's the it's the king. It's the big boy. Yep. Congrats
Um
Yeah, no and I'm looking at it now it actually
Wow, the fat old Xbox was less fat than I thought
Yeah, it was just so fat looking it was fat looking because it was a it was an x that was that was uh x exhaling
Remember it was the design aesthetic was we wanted. Oh, yes, it was exhaling. It was an x that's in the middle of exhaling going
Wow
So, um
It just looks fatter than it actually is
But uh, no the ps5 is now the king of sizes now now could you imagine?
I'm looking at the size comparison chart of all these different consoles
right
Dude the xbox 360s and the ps3s look like fucking
terrible
Like the original xbox 360 looks like a stupid piece of shit. Oh the white one
Yeah
Uh, it's it curves in I I think the I think the the uh the black slim is where it looked a lot better
um
the
The black slim version where it had the where it has like the power button with the um the quadrants
Um, I'm like that's a clean design. I like that. I thought that before that worked out fine
The original ps3 looks like a mess looks like a space. It's yeah, it's just it's a giant fucking spaceship
Um, I was going to say like could you imagine if the same logic that went into like the naming of the 360?
went into this the the design of the ps5 where they're like if people see bigger size they will assume it is dominant
The size equals power
And the biggest console of them all in your living room will clearly remain unchallenged
As the others are subservient and tuck their tails
I assume that the the size is on both of them
Uh for big fucking fans
Like I assume we're gonna pop these open and see like
You know like 240
Mill millimeter fans in there
You know just giant giant motherfucking fans
Um to make sure that these things don't die. I bet you I bet you you like mark it that like
These things are going to be the loudest motherfuckers until they figure it out on the next skew
It's gonna take a skewer to before they get the the quietness and I bet you this thing is fucking loud, dude
But woolly
The ps5 is gonna have a hard drive that so fast that not even pcs will be able to handle it until the samsung equivalents come out
Alongside the ps5 this november possibly
At the same time they've announced them. Okay. Well, there you go. Yeah
Hmm
I mean look the pc market knows what it's what it's doing when it comes to like
New generation. Okay. Well
Um, here's what you're gonna need
Because this is this is basically where games are gonna go and if you don't already have it then uh, yeah get you get your parts ready
It makes sense. It makes sense. Um
You also, uh
Are going to be looking at like
You're gonna be looking at like like just the the the the the sound of the fan
When it's when it's like starting up or whatever and then occasionally going back down and like, I don't know if you remember the
early days of
Uh, what were the loudest 360 and dreamcast or the loudest two to me?
um
360 would just start revving
Reving hard and like it would get it would like really kick on and then like you'd get that initial like like
But then like once you're starting up the next game you just get that
Like it was I'm gonna give really loud. I'm gonna give it to the 360
um
but
With the ps4 pro right behind it
Uh, but I want to give a special
like honorable mention
To the click tracking noise of the ps2's cd wrong
It was
It had a hard chunky one too like a
And like it was it always sounded like your fucking console was gonna fly upon. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
um
And then of course the dreamcast one was just very like
Yeah, I had a really really specific stuttery
Yeah, um, I don't like I get that
I I understand the idea of the digital only version of the ps5, but it's like that's the one I'm gonna get really
I I'm at zero physical games on the ps4. I'm
I'm at like like two maybe three
But that's not the point. The point is I want the option
Right, I don't want the I don't want the option taken away from me
And in the same way that like the ps3 with the original ps2 hardware inside of it
Is like the best version of that you can get and then eventually it became obsolete
Um, I want the version that has the options for sure sure sure, but I'd probably use it extremely minimally
um
But like like, you know considering the the
The nature of like, you know lp-ing and stuff. It's like there's a lot of times where I have to
Fucking uh, uh, there's there's stuff where I'm just like, I don't want to have this installed
I want I don't want to deal with this. I just want to kind of you know, um
Have the ability to possibly like oh you already have a copy of that game cool. Bring it over
Let me just do this instead, you know, so that's why you got to get disgusting disgusting fast internet
Mmm
Anyway, I think um
Yeah, I just it's gonna bug me that the version I buy is the one that is not aesthetically pleasing
But that has a tumor, but so be it so be it
Uh, you gonna wait for the black one. You're just gonna grab whatever is out. No, I'm gonna grab a day one
Yeah, okay, if it sucks ass it'll just sit there forever
Like I look at the I look I'm looking at this this promo image and like man those controllers look hot
Mm-hmm
They look great
You see they have the little engravings on them that are like the the playstation symbols
I just it's just it's just the trigger buttons, man. It's just the uh
The r2s and l2s, you know, they look like ps4 controllers that had more shit molded on to them
The plastic of the button should not be the the also the surface of the should not be the resting point
Um, they threw it in at the last second at the presentation, but they came in with those uh headphones and then the remote
Yeah, so it's very like like oh by the way here's some accessories to match the same
But Scott blue to aesthetic and just use my regular shit on it. You dumb motherfuckers
So you're dumb
playstation branded crap and not a price in sight except for that leak shocked
Shocked there was no price
No price no date to me that's
To me that says the price hasn't actually been decided yet
um
because the price of this device is uh the price of this and
Uh, the xbox one are really weird because when they started building them, they're like fuck it. We're gonna go high end
Right, this is gonna be the like the fucking first high end out of the gate console in a while, right?
They always do we
Yeah, but this this one they're actually putting shit in it like look how big the fucking things are right
And uh, then covet happened
And
Now they've built up these super high end luxury video game consoles that are not for everyone
In a global climate in which tons of people are broke. Yes
Yes timing
Timing like
I bet
They're totally gonna be way more expensive than we think
I'm think I'm thinking 500 at least
It will be one dollar less than 599 us dollars
Well, they like the leak was 599 euro
Right
That's not a leak. There's no way anything would be 599 euro. That's like that's like 800 usd
um
And then i'm like going back in history
They've jumped up to that price before
When the ps3 was launching they've jumped up to
The fucking 599 99 mark, you know, we all saw how that went
um
Yeah, I don't know dude. It might they might jump back up there, man
They might try again, you know ps4 launched at 399
um
Same thing 360 launched at 399 xbox one came at 499. Yeah, i'm looking at a comparison of launch prices
and
ps3 is the king if you
Uh decide to exclude the panasonic 3do which came out for uh, a meager
699 in the year 1993
Jesus Christ
That's unbelievable 699 in 1993, dude
The 3do was wild
Oh my god, that's just terrible
Yeah, yeah, so so 3do is uh gonna stay up there neogio, of course
649
Yeah, but by the car but you're buying the car you're buying the arcade cartridges exactly you're buying literally
I don't think the neogio could ever be topped
It was but the thing about the neogio though was that they took the arcade machine
And put it in a smaller piece of plastic and put video outs on it
They basically sold, um
Uh a super gun which is like the it's an arcade board that runs on a on a tv screen, you know like so
It's almost like understandable in that nonsense way
Where this is more of an arcade board and less of a console
But uh, yeah, everything else everything else comes in at that, you know, 299 399
range
Occasionally 399 has seemed to be the sweet spot for a lot
Occasionally 499 if you're looking at challenge
a little bit, but uh
ps3 at 599 is the modern king
I think I can I can see them hitting it
I can see
All right, I want I want to fucking
like like
Boy scouts swear fucking prediction here. Mm-hmm. What do you think this thing's going to come out at at the two skews?
Well, that's the that's that's what I was about to ask you is what are you going to call the price difference between disc and discless?
I want to call $100 99 and
4 and 5 49 you think $50 for the discs. I think $50 for a $2 cd rom
Sorry blu-ray drive
I think they might go to 100
I think they might just they might just they might opt for the the the the round hundred on the optics
um
There might be other differences, but like
I feel like you're gonna see a hundred dollar difference 50
50 is like
50 is is is low enough that it's almost like we'll just get the extra thing
You know, it's almost like they want. Yeah
But you're gonna put but you're but you're producing you're still producing a whole line
of
these like
You know, you're physically producing a whole line of these these discless ones like even if you want to upsell it
I think it's gonna go for a hunt. I think it's gonna be a hundred dollars difference between the two
All right, so you're thinking 4 99 5 99 probably
Probably so and there might be there might and there might be more than just the disc
Of the other the disc is a difference. There might be something else to to make it. I doubt it
We've all had we all lived through that mistake with the 360 era
Well, do you remember the do you remember the ps3 with lie lie lie lie lie?
All the ports that never happened. Oh, yeah
This thing has like it has a usbc and a usba on the front
Who knows what's going on behind it? But all right, let's I want to do some quick ass math
So let's assume woolly you think that this thing will come out at 5 99 599 us dollars with the disc, right?
That translates to approximately
800 canadian dollars
Which translates to
Uh, let's see 800 times one point
15 percent sales tax equals a total
Of approximately
920 dollars beautiful
beautiful
Yeah, or or or how about this?
Or how about this right because again, I think the shelf difference of an entire digit
is important for like
That that like walking on and purchase recognition from like parents and things like that that they're going for
I think you might even see like again
Like if they don't sweeten the deal by having other things included or not included
Then it would go the other way around and it would be like your 5 99 disc version includes the headset or the remote
Or some other accessory that is not included in the 499 version
Like if the actual cost of 50 bucks between the two is not enough
They'd pop maybe toss it in an accessory so that you'd have that that exact difference
But I think they want to have
A product at 4 99 and a product at 5 99. I think that's that's likely
I'm seeing people say that the discless version will actually be more expensive
Hold on
Is that just is that just like
Because the optical drive would be replaced with an ssd and I don't think that's coming from anywhere
Yeah, no, that doesn't make any sense. Then didn't they advertise both like didn't they advertise ssd as a standard and
In the in the product no, no, no, no, it's gonna have like a big fancy ssd
Yeah, this ssd was pitched as a standard thing for the product like I think both skews are gonna have the ssd
That's that seems not that seems nonsense. They're literally showing off games that are using the ssd
to
Jump across worlds the ratchet thing was about. Yeah. Yeah
No, I think that's complete nonsense. So that's that's one it's one of those things
It's like that ssd stuff they were showing off with ratchet like that's very impressive
But it's also stuff that you'll clearly only see for exclusive games
It is no one's who's yeah, who would have put the work into well until hello games throws it into no man's sky next
We've added a portal gun
Um
Yeah, yeah, actually the way the way that game works that would actually be you they could do that right now
Yeah
Because it's because it's algorithmic. Yeah, mm-hmm. So you just punch in a new number and the game will just start
Put you in those put you in that area. Totally. Yeah, I am
Yeah, I'm curious to see if the series x is going to
You know change anything about their approach bending pending this this this announcement
I I just think it's really funny that like right after the announcement digital foundry was like
We talked to some ps5 devs and they're all targeting 30 frames a second. I'm like great
Awesome
I mean so glad
When are you when are you gonna start thinking about your 8k television?
You mean the one that by every conceivable human eyeball metric will be
Pointless. Yep. Almost everyone but it's forever, but it's there though
Yeah, don't you want to know that there's so much quality that you can't even see it
Don't you want to know what it feels like to hit the event horizon of your perception?
You would need I think it's like a 110 inch television at like 8 feet to even be able to see a difference at all
at 8k like it's it's
It's
Fucking mad pointless. We can spit it out to 8k. We're gonna spit it out to 8k. I don't care
Yeah, um, that sucks, man. Still still not standardizing 60, huh?
Still still not standardizing 60, huh?
Nope, never
Because 60 is hard
Yeah, it's been hard for a while, but it's been a while
Yeah, well
It always it always drives me crazy when uh, these devs do remasters
I remember the last of us one was really cracked me up
They did the last of us or we released on ps4 and like multiple devs on that team were like
Holy shit, the game is just so much better at 60. It's incredible. We should really think about this
Hmm, but we're not yeah
Like, you know, I'm like, okay. What if we lock it at 40 guys? How about that 40 is actually terrible?
You don't want it said. Yeah. No, I know
Like please these half steps are awful. Um
I like personally I would take
A generation that is the same as we are right now with 60 locked in and no other improvements
I say that literally every single gen. Okay, we're like, that's the only improvement and everything else stays the same
It would be worth it saying
Uh, when the fucking 360 came out, I'm like, just give me better performing ps2 games. I don't care
Like like it's great that spider-man runs instantly
Give me blood-borne unpatched loading
and um
60 on everything. Yeah, totally. It's the biggest. It's the biggest noticeable difference
Compared to everything else. And here's here's where I feel like it's there's a real hard-ass disconnect
which is like
But you can't show frame rate in a screenshot in a magazine woolly
Oh
Well, I mean magazines though, that's my point. Yeah
You can't show 60 fps on a tv commercial
It really does feel like
From project to project
The the one of the one of the biggest struggles in the world is like getting that rate locked in
Getting it locked in is just
The endless struggle. Um, yeah, because you don't have to hit 60 you have to hit like 75
So that when it dips it it dips to a minimum of 60. Yeah, right? Um
And you know like yeah, and so when you don't want it to be variable it's um
It's clearly not a guideline for a reason. I'll say that much right if sony wanted to
They could enforce
60
They could and then a a million games wouldn't come out
You know they they they straight up could
But yeah, that's not something that they're doing and that they've ever chosen to do
They what what the do the next gens or rather I should say the the the last gens
Um, they always have a step. There's always a um
What so I've seen from the moment from the time I started qa
um
There were still playstation 2's games, uh coming out, right and there was there was still
um
It was like they're still like yeah, there was early ds
uh, uh
qa stuff happening and then when I was out it was
uh current gen
so
Like seeing the incremental step up in terms of just like what the hardware manufacturers enforce
You usually would see something where
It's like okay now games are
Uh now that hdmi is is optional
right your console can output
Uh component composite or hdmi then
You know, uh, please make sure that if you do choose to support hdmi, then you support
Um, not just 480p, but you know like like you should you're supporting your 720
Yeah, exactly and at least 1080 i right so it'd be like if you can get 1080 i 720p
You're fine and everything is is is great and that's your option, right?
The gen right after that that becomes mandatory
and then the next step up becomes the optional step so
There's always a you you have the option
And then one gen later that locks in in a way, right?
That's kind of the relative progression of how this sort of stuff works
Yeah, uh when it comes to frame rate gave you a couple years to get used to this as an option now you got to do it
um same thing for
um audio, you know as well like like there was a
um a thing where it's just like okay, you can support dolby digital you can support
Uh dts, you know 5.1 5.2 9.1 9.2 7.1
So like you can go through all these different options and these are optional and then afterwards they go now you have to do them
So they have that little scale going upwards with each gen but with with with um frame rate
They they never did
Uh frame rate is the only thing where it was always like well
Do what you can
So, you know take that take that as you will
I like
I'm just thinking and kind of giggling in the background. Uh, let's say they implement a 30 fps
Like mandate, right?
I would
Give anything to talk to the people in charge of compliance
Of like get this game under fucking 29 frames a second
Like your job is when the shit comes in when you do this compliance is you fuck this thing up like a super nintendo game
And you get that frame rate under 30 so that it fails compliance. I mean I mean like that would be the greatest job ever
Well, well that ultimately like what you what you are failing things for it depends on which platform
but in some in many cases like an inconsistent frame rate would lead to um
Like what would feel like choppiness, you know, what would feel like
Uh uh uh unsmooth gameplay and then that is a valid that is a a valid bug
You can definitely throw that in the database and go like yeah this level the game just takes a shit here
Uh, especially
I forget what it was, but I remember there was a game where like the the the cutscene prompts like the qte's
Would be like delayed because the frame rate was like so fucking bad. It's a piece of shit out on 360
And it's like this is unplayable like this these prompts are fucked
um shoutouts to the performance test on killer instinct, which is uh
Loading in the alleyway level and cinder versus cinder
And it just has them doing their giant explosive
Particle-based things over and over and over again in a mirror match
And it's like can your system handle this can you handle a cinder mirror match?
it was um
It was a version of walking dead. Okay, so many of the chat just mentioned it was a version of walking dead
I think it was walking dead season one without a hard drive
Where it would just be like
Like there were parts of the first episode that were
Uncompletable that you couldn't the prompt would pop up late
Because the prompt would pop up after your character had died. Yikes
Yikes
Yeah, well hey, but yeah cinder versus cinder I I remember turning that on and like laughing
Because it's like oh, yeah, this is about as bad as they they know they know exactly what to what to test exactly
Yeah, that's I like that. Um, I like when um, so you do it in dmc for special edition
And it just pans the level and loads in
like, uh
100 enemies
Just jumping around doing their thing and then it just like keeps going and more and more and more and more and more
You know, and it's just like yeah, show me what the game's
Absolute death choke nightmare is
And and let's see how it handles it and then the pad gives you a passing grid and you're like fuck. Yeah, I feel good about my setup
It's funny because the uh, so total warhammer that big strategy game we were talking about a couple weeks ago
They have three benchmarks in it. There's the campaign benchmark, which is like their map
Well, you know the you know like the sieve map there's battle
Which is the a fight between two large armies
And then there's the skaven battle benchmark because the skaven have like twice as many cheap units
and
There's no actual benchmark for the upper limit because in that game you can combine multiple multiple armies together
Um, and you can get like 20 30 000 fucking
Enemies on screen and your cpu is gonna shit
Like there's nothing that can be done like the game will allow all sorts of shit to happen
And there's no computer on the fucking planet that will handle it
um
But I I admire games like killer instinct that just go
This is as bad as it's going to get
This is the worst thing we could do. This is the worst thing we can do. Yeah. Yeah
um
Something that also sucks and it's this is a
A streamer lp or a problem, but it's like if you're running your shit through an elgato
You're kind of getting it modified anyway. You're you're you're getting a modified feed
um, yeah, so like just just a little but the so like, um
You know depending it
So if you if you are recording if you're not recording in 60 for example, then like obviously you're not going to be seeing
60 displayed to you
But the biggest difference for me is I find the color
Is super super washed in a different way. Uh for me, you'd expect expect. Oh, sorry. Hold on a moment
Someone is at oh, I heard that that's a person at your door brb
Okay, uh, yeah, excuse me. There was a
fire alarm this morning and uh
We had to uh, I think they're doing like some inspections and stuff. So a wonderful no worries
Well, what the fuck were we talking about? I completely forgot
Which we're talking about
Frame rates we're talking about locking at 60. We're talking about the difficulty and the the particles of
And then the pushing your games to the maximum benchmarking
all of that happy horse shit
and um
Yeah, and and and how frame rate is not a standard but like
You know, we're going to enter another 10 years or whatever of this gen and it's still not going to be a
I think because it's hard and it's hard
And that's all there is to it
But it's hard, uh, I
Yeah, I think I think I think there would be a lot of a lot of a lot of people would just like
Stop what they're doing if they had to hit that 60 as a as a mandatory
Uh, uh requirement, you know, that would create a huge disruption
I think I think the funniest thing would actually be like so, you know how
You'll see like the like we're gonna push this game's gotta be 720. God damn it. It's like the frame rate isn't there, dude
I don't care. So you get these games coming out like 20
right
See the opposite. We're like, well, we have to hit 1080
And we have to hit 60
All right, what can we cut?
Every texture
Just oh, yeah. Yeah, don't stare too hard at that at that grass. Yeah, absolutely draw distance
Let's cut it
See the seam in the sky Superman 64 fucking rings and shit
Although um screen tearing is obviously, uh, uh
A thing that like you can absolutely fail if it happens too much. Um, really the uh
Uh, uh, what was I gonna say? I was gonna say, yeah, so we're talking about the Elgato
And I was bringing up the fact that like the colors
Chains on change on some things and uh, I've I remember some weird instances of like
um
Doing like I was I was I was changing I was doing going for like ava unit one colors on my anthem
um
Whatever and uh
Back in the when the demo first came out and I remember it was like wait, no people are seeing blue
but I'm seeing the purple of the of the ava and all that shit and um
It was
Ff7 actually so because I switched from my pc to the ps4 and back and forth
You know and whatnot and like I plugged a ff7 r out of the Elgato and into the tv directly and loaded it up between
um
Sessions of whatever and like I saw the fucking colors just hit me completely different and I went fuck
Yeah, that's the Elgato was robbing and robbing the depth fairly common
thing you're using the the
What do you call it hd 60s you're using the the the box ones, right?
So the the the when you start when you have an integrated like pc like desktop capture card
um
The one that I have right now it has proper pass through and it has uh all that shit, but it does not
Do hdr, but once I switched to the capture card instead of the capture box that that color shit
Fucking went away
I'm not okay when you once it's plugged in
To your mobo directly. Yeah, it's it's going into the back of my pc now
Uh, I have no idea why in particular the capture card is doing a better job of that than the capture device
I
I mean
Would the usb power?
May you know be
The difference there versus drawing directly from the system
I don't know if somebody uh in chat just said pc i e versus usb, which makes sense. There's no there's less exact
So then there you go exactly if you're using p. Yeah, so that that's that's that's the that's the guess
Um more power to draw from the pc i express
Like I have an hdr tv and boy, I wish I could play games in hdr on my sony playstation, but like I'm not gonna fucking
tear apart the pass through every single fucking time I
Do that shit that's a massive fucking pain in the ass is how often I stream games
Yeah, and I'm also I'm doing a double like I'm doing a pass through and I'm catching the pass through on a second, uh device
Uh, uh, what's it called?
The fucking what uh the the
Gamer the avar media like self-contained capture is what's
Catching the stream pass through and then spitting that back out for for youtube without any of the overlay or any of that stuff
Give me a fucking hdr pass through device and I'll I'll get it right. I'll buy it right the fuck now
Do it but hey
They're not gonna do it
Do you think there's a chance they'll um
I could see the ps5's like
twitch integration
More or less being like okay fucking just run obs now
Like I could see it I could see it actually like adding that
That capability in which case then you know, um every stream that's running off of someone's direct console is not going to have
The exact same look, you know in that case you can kind of set it up a little bit
Probably gonna lean into that somewhat
Website right now the highest end is still the 4k pro
It's like I want the four I will give me my hdrs
Give me
um
Any other
Any other improvements on what we've got going on right now battery life on controllers was pretty solid
um
No real complaints about that that's
That's good. That's that's more or less a solved problem in my opinion
I feel like um
The standardization of usbc
Is on everything is the biggest fucking step up we can get yeah
I'm so done. I'm done with the usb usb the usbb micros
I'm fucking done with them. I'm
Beyond exhausted so many of those cables. It's unbelievable the graveyard. There's a grid. There's a wire graveyard
You know of just like
All of these broken little metal nubs that fucking
They're made to break so that they don't break the port
I get it
It's a bit of the logic that goes into like why a car crumples so badly in accidents these days
Because all the kinetic energy is directed to the car and the windshield and thus not to you
So that the old sturdy car doesn't fucking
Tank the hit and you go bouncing around and splatter against everything instead. It makes the car fall apart and not you inside
so
It's literally like it's the idea of like this cheap replaceable wire is the most
It's the most affordable part so that's not gonna
Last as long as like the port should for example, but
It just it got so flimsy over the fucking last decade that i'm just I can't stand it man
Yeah
I don't know I feel like um
there's been
That problem like on every single device every single device that uses the usb b micro
It has just like fucking flattened the wires
Completely and I see some people saying they haven't had that problem. If you haven't had that problem, then that's good for you. That's nice
um
It has nothing to do with throwing your controllers
It has everything to do with as you insert
The the plug every time you insert the wire into the console into the controller into the device
The two metal nubs sticking out
Flatten and they weaken and the integrity of the bent point where they are like basically like curved upwards is going to
Get weaker and weaker and weaker every time you use it until eventually they don't work
Not unlike an ethernet cable where the little nub of plastic breaks off
You know what i'm talking about? Oh, yeah
That shit, you know, so
That shit. Yeah, like if you haven't had that problem, that's great. That's a wonderful unique experience you can enjoy
Meanwhile, the rest of us need a fucking better better quality wire
Just
And you know, I got a new phone recently
and
I use a wireless charger
So I don't usually actually deal with usb-c all that often
Oh, you know the first time out of the box. I'm like, yeah, I'll plug it in and I'm like, oh, right
I didn't have to do the usb shuffle
The connection feels solid. I can tell it's not gonna break
What a nice
And we fucking just race to usb-c as fast as possible
Please
Yeah, um
I'm still on an iphone so it's got the you know the proprietary on that but that can you you can plug it in either way
The lightning port I believe it's called can be used like either orientation
um
Pudge mom's got a pixel and that thing, you know, you can usb-c it either orientation
We just uh, we need to get past we need to get past this fucking usb-c stage because like
You know, I'm looking around and I'm like, yeah, just about
I'm like a number a number of devices here all require it
Uh, some of the charging batteries I have for like, you know, the phone recharges and the headset the fucking the the
The same both say both that we were talking about, you know, like all of this shit. It still has this just like
this vastly inferior
You know port on it
um
And it's lasted longer than I feel like some of the others have
Because you know remember remember when um usb
The
So mini before micro was mini and mini is the playstation 3 one
It's the one that looks like a little like box with a with a
A little outcropping at the top there a little like saris
Way more durable than micro. It's way more. It's way more durable. Um
It but it just kind of like
Kind of falls out sometimes. Yep
Uh, that's the problem with that one. Is it because it's not any device half the time
It doesn't the
So if you remember fucking around with not only when ps3 controllers, but like with um, uh, the uh
The yeti microphones the yeti microphones would use it. Fuck out. It just fall out the fucking us
You turn it you turn the microphone to face you and the wire is like
Do
So it's the exact opposite issue. It's like the wire is going to be fine. It's just not going to stay where you put it
You know
Um, yeah, the micros the micros and the minis are they've got their issues
Sea solves all of that. Haven't had any issues with the sea so far. Let's just
Hurry up that process. Hurry up the sea process. I just actually I just did some googling while we're talking
Apparently there is totally a fucking capture card that does 4k with hdr. Pass through
What's the avermedia one?
Oh
Live gamer 4k
Okay, well, I see I have I have the live gamer like hd
Uh, which is not a card on um, it's not a pc. I express card. It's a
self-contained usb with no video
Output required. Well, I gotta say
The word gamer is getting funnier to me every day
It's not going away like it cracks me up
Every day when I hear the word gamer
I was watching all these fucking I watched the pc show and the ps5 show
And they're like we love bringing the freshest new content to gamers and I'm just like
Feels gross
At least sony attempted to say players
You know they're with their with their branding and marketing
power to the players and all that you can kind of
distance
a little bit
How do you do fellow gamers
You see that fucking video
Some streamer
Just this streamer girl
It's talking about like the end of the world hysterically and then it just fades in to some 360 no scope footage
It's like what's one of the best things i've ever seen and I don't even oh my god. What was it?
Dear god, I it's like
It's the most like you want to talk about the epitome of the word gamer
You want to talk about the epitome of the word gamer? I need to find this and retweet it immediately so that um
You can you can see what i'm talking about
Oh
like
Let's see. Can I find it really quickly?
Hold on. Okay. I think I have a name. I think I have a name
Uh
Is this correct? Oh somebody in the in the chat just posted it. I think
It is yes, yes, absolutely there it is
Uh, and yeah, this is one of those things that's let me hit the retweet on that. Fuck. Yeah
Hey
Dude
This it's like it is I just retweeted it from falco
It is like
This is what the word gamer means in my head now
When you say that word every time you do this clip this clip is what I hear
With the music and everything. Oh my god
What else do we really need?
Just the dankest the dankest 360 no scopes, bro
Oh my god, wow. Wow
That that that is how you rise up
The animals are dying
That's how you fucking rise up dank memes are returning nature's healing
Uh, I hate it it takes a while sometimes it takes a while for the internet to use its its meter
Yeah, you know it stores that meter up for a while and then some and it takes a second. It's patient
It's a fucking keep away. It's a zoner, you know, but when it spends the bar
When it spends all that bar
Thanks internet
Boy, I love internet
Like I hold my phone in my hand and I'm like, I'm holding the internet, you know
like
Internet
Love it
I can tell you're watching it and losing it again
It's so fucking caucasian bro. Oh man stop playing those things on the vods. You're gonna fuck up
The caucasity
Oh, oh, oh, it gives me life. Oh, it gives me life. Fuck. It's so good
I can like I could never that's what it is right. It's nowhere inside my body
Am I capable of like blending these ingredients into such a delicious meal?
It is so outside
Everything i'm capable of, you know, I can only stand in awe of that which is not
Okay, well anyway, um, please enjoy that. What did you do this week?
I
Watched all that shit
And then I played dead by daylight with some pals
Beat on some newbies that was fun still playing runeterra every day that game's great that game's great
You get cards for free
It's good
Good good game enjoyable. I beat big carding
I beat that cinder's ash mod. Sorry cinder's mod for ds3
Okay
That game
That mod rather is in a wild state of flux. It's really crazy every week
I would I would start the stream and somebody would tell me that I would have to fucking
Download a new version of the mod and every single time I would get some crazy like some goofy thing would happen
um, like leveling costs would change or like
They would rebalance all the spells or whatever when that thing's done. It's going to be incredible
but uh, what did it crack and you you you you backed up your save and
Oh, you don't have to this is just patch it
Oh, um, and it absolutely cracked me up because I went to the final boss of dark souls 3 and like just stood there and cast like
Nine spells and they died and I'm like, you're probably gonna need to tone this down a little bit
but uh
It was it was a total blast to go through and it because the mod is changing so much
It'll probably be a blast to go through again
in a couple months
Uh, like they added a bunch of new merchants to the game to just add more shit
Like just last week in between patches and then one week this character was here and the next week they were gone
It's almost live service. E
Uh, but yeah, that cinder's mod is great
That cinder's mod is great
Uh, somebody in the chat what so you ruined it for yourself. I beat the final boss of dark souls 3 so many times
what
what
shut up
Who gives a fuck you dark souls people are crazy
I've actually been playing a lot of dead by daylight with plague
Uh, as well as page
and
It's fun seeing elie like a game but still like
Fight to complain
You know
Okay, he's like was it uh, and he's having a good time
But and he's like
Oh, this is just design bad. It's like why?
because
This i'm so oh
You can't help it
You must is it is it the loss
Part of it. Oh, is it the no, it's just uh, if he if he uh, if he encounters something that he doesn't like
It's because it was badly designed
Hmm
Well, I'd be I'd be I'd be curious because uh
You know, um
I I take it I take it at at
uh, uh
slightly above face value based on the analysis of
You know stories and things like that that uh, there's probably
more than
Uh, uh a basic thought here in in in these complaints, but listen, I'm curious to know what specifically I would be
To
To to disagree so strong with you
I have
I've spent a lot of time
Talking to and listening to this man complain
You are more familiar in many times with his
Treatises
Of complaints, I would say right
His excellently crafted
Sweet sweet, uh dissections
And there's also the uh blood we talked stories and fast woolly
We talked stories and story crafting and world crafting uh
Back in on woolly will figure it out a little bit as well there too, but uh all this to say buttons
Uh
I love that guy he's a great guy check my dbd like of grapes
Uh, yeah, honestly not much going on with me the games movies tv shows this week because uh
uh
The same old as last week and watching all them uh announcement shows
Boring
So, uh, I had the pleasure of
Watching the complete cherry boy that is reggie to the video game industry
um
Because everything is excitement and everything is like
Whoa, and i'm like and reggie is the type of person that marketing teams would fucking wet themselves
To put him in the front row of the audience
Because he's just going to have the perfect facial expressions and reactions to zoom the camera in on
Not quite, but he's he's got the level of sincere excitement for product that is being introduced
Right, and it's it's it's it's quite it's quite fun because i'm like there's a level of absolute
cynicism from seeing one too many award shows that permeates
I'd say all right, absolutely. I was overcome with it. I was watching the ps5 event
Which when I look back on it in uh an attempt to be objective
It was pretty all right
They showed a lot of stuff and there was very little fluff especially consider compared to the pc show
um
Now I have a lot of uh complaints on like my youtube upload because it's like there's no excitement coming off of me anymore
um
Now for now in my case
Four out of five times. I just won't bother
Streaming the event
That's why you'll notice that's so many times. I'm like i'm just what what would the purpose of this be
There's you know what I mean if there is something it would be a it would be a cool moment for that one thing
And there and and there might be a solid hour and a half of
general disinterest and malaise
okay, that is
That is not really you know
I mean if people are looking for a hyperreaction to something then I'm not here to bum you out for 45 minutes
You know what I mean like I just if I don't care then I don't care
um
So that's why I try to uh
You know just be like well
I'm not going to contribute anything here. So I even bother doing in some cases though
Like it is worth it when there's something cool going on. That's a kind of big deal. We're currently
Exactly, you know
it's but like
I generally I'm just like I'm you know, you'll see me in many cases just being like
I'll opt out of this if I don't think I have anything to really offer. It's it's a weird place because
a lot of it
Like because being jaded at these kinds of announcements
Like one, I guess you should be to a degree because they're ads, right?
but
It's like I remember when chef gershman got called out for like why are you so uh
Uh
Why you so cynical and it's like because you know enough to be cynical
Um because I've been lied to for 20 years somebody in the chat points out correctly
Hard to get hype when the back of your mind is screaming. You are fucking lying to me
Um, that's it. There's been a lot of that but more than that
Is a thing of expectation and I ran into a very significant
A
expectation problem with the
ps5 event
And
It is an expect it is an expectation problem that I cannot possibly ask
Almost anyone the audience to actually empathize with which is
I'm sitting there with a mental checklist
Of shit that I know exists that they could show
And I go boy, I sure would be excited if they show
Oh, it never showed up
Oh, it you know, yada yada, um, or uh, let's say
Everyone and their mom didn't know about resident evil eight
Right
I would have popped off on that but let's say
You know that uh, oh like the demon souls remastered think that's pretty cool
Mm-hmm
I wouldn't say it's all that so I would say that it's not all that surprising
So it didn't really get a giant pop off
So, you know, so you
Um, um
What was cool was the screenshots released afterwards that were really really crisp, right?
So this brings me to
Footage those like
It was so beautiful when you saw the screenshots. They released afterwards. It was great
Compared to what was shown now now and that brings me to my point, which is
There was a couple of times when an event would come and go
And I just didn't give a fuck so I like I you know, I didn't I didn't watch it
But what I would then see is I'd go check the link of the here's the event roundup
And I would just be on a page with a bunch of youtube trailers
And then some links to some console pictures and or stats or whatever the case is
About whatever was announced and then each one then there'd be some screenshots and I'd be like
Oh, this is fucking lovely
And I would scroll past what I didn't care about
And I would see things that I didn't know and click to check them out and see what's going on
And then go right to the things I wanted to see and just and that's how I liked, you know
And I was like, oh, that was great. It took me about 15 minutes
I got exactly what I wanted out of that. I'm really happy to see the trailer for this
Excited for that and that was it. That was it. It was just the compressed info dump that comes afterwards
Trims all the fat and that to me is like
Worth it. That's a great experience. You know, I love that feeling even though you miss out on the
The the ride and the hype train and some and the gags and the oh here comes somebody walking up to the stage
What's he gonna say? Is he gonna say something stupid? Yes, he is
you know, it's like
Like I just I'm like, god god get me to the fucking shit. Please get me to the shit
There it is. I like it good and we're done here, you know, so
um a couple of events that that turned into a a list of youtube trailers to me were um
Like kind of they kind of spoiled me in the sense that I was like, I prefer this infinitely over this event
You watch the pc one
No boy. No
No, that would have been much better in the format you describe
Legitimately embarrassing the whole way through
Skits
Little little interviews of what with shitty webcams
Do the only time I've ever watched one of those was the one where they did the talk show thing that and that was with
Uh, when we were all doing it and and like I was just like, okay, what what's the what are we doing here?
You know, so I don't I don't know how much you you paid attention to that event while it was happening
but
There the pc gamer one wasn't just
Like embarrassed like embarrassing and and cringe
It also like seriously fucked a dev over
Mm-hmm. I did see that. Um, I didn't I didn't saw the show but they had uh
The the the I forget the publishing company feel bad, but uh, you know the the guys who did ultra kill and dusk and all that stuff
Um, and then they forgot to show the gloomwood trailer
Yeah, that's what it was gloomwood and
Then like the gloomwood uh new blood is the the publisher
The gloomwood dev hits twitter and goes well
There goes my shot to be seen by all those people
And then the looks like they forgot then the pc game the gamer fucking twitter cat goes stick around after the
Oh shit. Oh shit. Oh shit. Oh shit. Oh shit. Oh shit. Oh shit. Oh shit. Oh shit. Oh shit. Oh shit. Oh shit
It's like
Dude that
Because no what happened what happened was
Like there was that tweet right the guy was like guess they forgot me. Oh, well that was my chance
And then stick around and then they're like oh shit
They caught that and then at the end they played the trailer for gloomwood and then someone was like what the fuck this isn't bloodborn
And he's like i'm so so sorry that you thought this was going to be bloodborn. I didn't want this to happen
And he was just like
Replying super sadly to the person who was like
You know like hyping themselves for something that didn't happen because they thought it was a big old
Yeah, you got access to a uh
Uh browser right now
Sure type in not bloodborn.com
Mm-hmm
Mm-hmm
Mm-hmm
All right loading
Oh my god, oh Jesus
It links to the fucking gloomwood. Yeah, there's there's also not fortnite.com which goes to dusk
Uh, there's there's like a devil make quake.com which goes to ultra kill
That's sad
It's really funny. That's sad
Well, again, it's not this guy's fault thing is when they announced like go to go find gloomwood at at not not bloodborn.com
Nothing
Is the hey, you know what?
I know
I know exactly how to explain to people why I have little excitement for many of these award shows anymore
To anyone who watched the pc gaming show
The pc gaming shows big pop that had like a uh fucking person interrupt
I think was greg miller interrupt the show to announce
was hey guys
Persona for golden is coming to steam
Despite the fact that it went live on steam an hour prior and people were buying it and playing it when that announcement happened
Yeah, that was wild um
Was that announced in any way shape or form was that it that was a completely out of nowhere
Beaked via steam database five days ago
Okay, okay
Hey
The vita can now
Finally no wait crisis core
Don't worry. We'll get to play all of crisis core in a flashback and ff7 remake part two
Wait, no that was psp. Yeah it was
Okay, the vita can finally fade
The vita can finally fade away
You see that, you know the one of like the dog going to heaven. It's like was I a good boy? Was I a good console?
It's like nah
You're okay. You're you're okay
Yeah, yeah
Freedom wars freedom war is right more amasses on other consoles. What are you talking about? That's a shit
Or is it or was the
Does the vita have the exclusive episodes and dlc stuff?
Yeah more amassos was on
I loaded up that percent of for golden port and it's the dlc is only on the v
Okay, yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot of cool vita dlc that came for it before g port is
Pretty state. It's pretty solid. It's not the best pc port, but it's pretty good
I saw some really bad screenshots of someone's game fucking up. Yeah, that seems to be models case by case basis
It's not wide models and like tripping out and just dying and falling apart faces and textures
It's very unfortunate. However, it is a pc port made by internal atlas japan
That is
The biggest weird surprise was that people were able to figure out. Yeah, this was an internal thing with uh
In combination with another another studio
It said so like yeah, and they didn't outsource it to
In its entirety to anyone test game company looks like yeah
Seeing that game run at 60 at eight k
And yes, I did mean that the game can run at eight k
Is absolutely fucking weird looking
Because you can run that game at 4k resolution or whatever a resolution you want and you can kick that render scale up to 200%
And it and it can run at I think it has like an upper limit of like 160 frames a second
um and like it it is smooth and
sharp
And that is a atlas two game and it is like it's you know, you remember the conversation we were just happening
Having about how like just give us high res like good frame rate. Um
ps2 games
This is like an alternate future
Is atlas
Was it was atlas ever like um
Like contract bound to sony
um no in any way
So there was always just their own choice as to like atlas has never been contract bound to anyone
They just decide to put a game out on one platform and then never again
So one guy says it's just a vita port. What's the big deal? Well
um
Really easy answer to that question persona for and persona for uh original versus golden is
Night and day when it comes to the amount of extra content that was put into it a voice actor was completely replaced
uh an entire
Like chunk of the game exists exclusively
In the golden it makes demon
Uh fusion way easier. It adds extra characters and confidant links. It adds
Like so so so much in the same way that royal added to p5 more than that is that it's one of the best games that's ever come out
It's one of the best games that's ever come out and it was only playable
On the vita if you had a vita or a vita tv
So for the longest while one of the best persona games ever
Was completely inaccessible to most people
due to its prohibit like just like
Due to sitting on on on uh a fucking vita
so
The fact that it's now available to the rest of the world in a very uh
Uh open format which is on pc which guess what a lot of people have a pc
Is a pretty important step and a big deal
Because it's one of the best persona games and now people can play it. I'm following a guy
I mean a lot of people on twitter who's modding it and uh
progress is a lot of vast
A lot of people went out of their way
To track it down to play it on the vita because it's that good. It's worth it to track it down and do it
But a lot of people that didn't
Now have the opportunity
So yeah, that's
You know that it's like
Fucking amazing game that that was really hard to get your hands on is now available. That's that's the end of that
Shouldn't be that uh much of a mystery, you know, but it is a mystery. Um a murder mystery
Bump bump bump
It would be nice it would be nice if atlas decided to you know, uh treat the pc as a
Proper place to put their shit from now on and
Collect all that money all that free money that would come with taking
The product they've already made and just putting it in the other place where people want to give them money for it
Because it seems
Seems seems like a weird thing when you're not
Bound to the platform like if sony paid for part of the game's development
As we saw with you know, um
Fucking death stranding
Right like you can understand why a game would go through those hoops
But even death stranding ended up getting ported later on
So why would atlas without getting any of that?
Big old exclusive dollars
Um kneecap themselves from getting tons of money off of a pc port on their games
I think the craziest thing is apparently p4. Sorry p5 scramble
Strikers
um
didn't sell that grade on the switch
and
They were baffled and that's like
That is a
To a game that is not on the console you put it on
Wait the muso game came out. Yeah in japan
Oh
Fuck okay. I was like, whoa. Uh, okay. Yeah, right and it's like
And and they seem it's quite possible. They're taking the fucking result from that of
I guess uh
I guess switch players don't like atlas games
Um scramble is also a ps4 in japan. That's weird. Oh god. Wait, it's not coming to ps4 here
I'm
I don't understand. I don't understand just put atlas is so it's so confusing to me because like
Again, clearly if you've got it. Well now now that we know they've they've done it internally
Like it would be so baffling if they continued to not
Follow this trend up by putting another shit on pc as well because again, it's free money
It's free money for the work you've already done
And no one's paying you to not collect that money
If someone was paying you to stay here and not go get the money over there
Then you'd make a little bit more sense, but it's not if that's not what's happening. Then why not just go get the money
It's on the table
The table is heaving it's bending
About to break retweeted the guy just the other day, which is like atlas might be the most
Stubborn you have all this money. Why won't you make it company in the entire games business?
It is
totally baffling
Like how long since golden?
Nine years eight years
Almost a decade
2012
Like one of their most popular titles ever made
One of the most popular games they've ever made also wait any six months to a year for your translation
On every game and and like
and in the meantime
They're fucking running skyrim
On a pregnancy test
You know like they're porting
Like like it's just why why can't atlas have a little bit of that of that
That coward juice. Why can't we get a little bit of the Todd juice going?
You know
I don't I don't get it
Like put out smt3 with like some convenience features on the pc right now for $30 and people will buy it
You see that like p4g like broke sales records for jrpgs on steam and of course it did
Of course it did
Like it's crazy
How'd that happen
Who would why would pc players want to buy our rpg?
Like just just the like look at that for a second. It's 2012
The most popular rpg they've ever made
In in in this franchise game that completely changed their direction as a as a company
And it sat on the vita for eight years
Why do you hate money?
Why the weirdest thing?
Some people are pointing out that atlas is a very small company and that's true
But that very small company
was able to license out
An anime two runs of an anime series
A shit zillion merches
et cetera
You could have given it to a decent port company and they would have done it
All right, like there are so many
People are pointing out even more indignified smt4 and smt4 apocalypse are just stuck on the 3ds
Yeah, you can ever like thank god on like the vita, but
But it's like, you know, it's just like we're not talking about like
It's it's like if you when we talk about like
Marie and like all these characters that show up like again immensely popular
Tons of awareness as to who these characters are because that many people just went out to go track down a vita
So they can fucking play the thing. Um
And you versus something like a random side port on a con on a on a on a handheld of like okami den
Right like no if I asked you about name me some characters from okami den
No one could do anything about that because no one fucking knows, you know
Like it's it's a case of just like
Very cut and dry. You've seen the effort people have been willing to go to for so long
You know and it just like I get that they're not a giant company with all the capability to like shove it on everything
And that's fine
But like the single rudimentary pc port that would be the basis for like, okay
Someone hears about this franchise and goes great. That's cool. I should track this down
What should I do like just having a single version of it on a something relevant that they can go back to
It just doesn't make any sense that you wouldn't this field and I'm like sega told them to do it
If it's on pc it lives forever exactly
Exactly the sega has been pushing the pc very strongly for a long time
I want to say since 2008 more and more their stuff is coming on pc
um, I will point out again
the absolute insanity
that I have
Uh, yakuza 7 wish listed on steam right now
Right
The the most japanese games that have ever existed are all slowly coming to steam
Um, and they sold really well there
It makes me feel like it's the and sega does the total warhammer stuff sega does the the football manager shit
Those are all big on pc. I feel like at some point someone from sega said make a fucking pc port of something
And see if it sells
And then we'll give you resources to you know pc shit up in the future fuckers
I don't know why but for some reason I feel like
Even though I'd already given up on the idea of ultamax
getting ported
Officially, I should say because I know people have found their there are there arcade ways. Um
I feel like this thing has somehow
pushed the date of never
further ahead
For some reason like ultamax is triple hard never get confirmed to ever get ported to steam ever
So I could really go for p5 ultamax
well
Come on no matter how much awesome
concept art of cop g a
gets shared around on twitter
Just give your hopes up it's bad time for cop g a willy
Yeah, but she's wearing
green and black so
She can
Look like she's just one of those crazy street justice superheroes instead of an actual cop
Well anyway
Yay atlas congratulations
You've walked over to the table
I would say in the analogy of dipping your toe into the pool
I would say congrats on looking at the pool
All chies are bastards wow
That's uh, it's true. Um
Well anyway
I
Should I I guess set a narca am I right? Hey
I've got um, I've got a week. Oh, yeah a week occurred. Mm-hmm
What's up
Well first I watched fight on the killer instinct story
And I would like to recommend that to folks because
it is
Uh, it's been a long time in the making and it's a very cool
documentary by um
One estaban of hold back to block
And it is uh fucking great. It's a look at how killer instinct was made as a doc
Uh over the years starting with the first games obviously and then kind of working its way to the the 2013 game
and um
Yeah, I don't know it. It was just like there's some shit that you learn in that that I had no idea
about like the the the the inspiration that ken lob
Had back in the day for um
Combos in the ki system actually came from
Uh dragon in world heroes and his two-in-one hit where you'd hit he'd do an elbow into a
Into like a backfist
and um
And then the other thing that inspired him was kim kapuan super in fatal fury
So, you know kim's what?
Yes, or the ryaku rambu style supers that s and k does where
You land it you do the big flurry and then the finish
That is what inspired the idea of doing uh large stylish combos in ki
And so he breaks it down a little bit more of how like you know, and then obviously the sitting back and watching that take places
Uh, you know because you're gonna need some way to interrupt that so it goes into how um
Uh the combo breakers came to be and like
um, yeah a lot of
A lot a lot of cool things you learn about you know
Ki one and then so on and going going forward and then by the end you kind of just see like some of the stuff that I completely
Forgot that happened when ki the the new one was at its height
There was some real good shit like
Most japanese companies when they make a fighting game are like afraid to detail why they make changes and what's going on
and here
um
You had a case of
It was the ki world cup finals and they did I completely forgot because I remember this was so hype when I saw it and I forgot
This happened they had the patch notes for the new version of the game
um
They went through every single character and walked through the changes publicly live
In front of an audience on stage and you got to watch as everyone saw their characters getting nerfed and buffed
And the live reactions as people popped off for what they could or couldn't do anymore
Were amazing like one of a kind event where like you'd just be like, okay, so here's uh,
Well, here's sedira or here's uh orchid and here's what we did
You know and then like you see some new shit that she can do now like oh
Fuck she can go from the slide into an uppercut and like everyone just goes
And then like everyone like the camera pans over to like all the orchid players and they're huddled in a corner like
You know and like it's like the most you get to feel the excitement of like
um
Anytime you've watched the trailer with the audience reactions on you know like the snake reveal or
You know the twilight princess reveal a lot of that fun stuff
You get to enjoy like sort of watching a group of players
Just losing their minds over these updates as they slowly show you the the patch list, you know
It was a fucking great event and i'm like man
Every other company is way too fucking coward
To allow
The audience to be there to like react
And like and or criticize their decisions
Yeah, there's a lot of page readings that would like knives would come out
If if they were read to a live audience
They would never make it a a a fun communal event because they they take the shit so seriously
That like any criticisms would probably be like oh fuck. Oh, that's bad. Um, we don't want a lot. We don't want people to you know
Come come we don't want we don't want players to point out decisions. We've made as like bad
With sound reasoning that makes it look like we don't know what we're doing
So we're just going to say adjustments have been made to this character and um damage has been reduced
And they just won't tell you the specifics because they want to fucking hold this plausible deniability, you know patch notes that
Like because that you're describing the highest end, which is like listen. We got we got the people here
They can yell at us
He they they can yell at us that that changes bullshit
And we're here and we can see them
Uh, that's the ultimate. I can't think of anything that tops that
At the very least I think that
For as shit as blizzard is nowadays and as shit as riot has always been
The way that you do a patch note where you go
We're adjusting, you know, uh fucking misfortunes damage or or bladmere's card health or whatever, right?
And you give like a little explanation. It's like, okay. Well this card sucks
Right, there's a card in runeterra of bladmere. He used to have I think five five health and now he has six six
It's like this card sucked. He would get killed by this guy this guy this guy this guy this guy
Uh, we juiced him a little bit. We don't think it'll affect his balance, but it'll make him feel a little bit like
You know, it's it's worse. Sorry. He's a better card that there's also the
the ultimate worst
Which has a purpose to it, which is the call of duty way of balancing, uh guns
What do they do? Uh, there's two things that they've done one. They've announced that guns have been nerfed and not changed them
Uh, and those and those guns will then be worse
Oh
Oh, wow
Yo, that's fucking sick
Oh the fake nerf
You hit him with the fake nerf
the placebo
Which placebo balance which has been fold up by
occasional stealth nerfs
Oh, that's godlike. I love it. They nerf guns in very minor ways, but don't tell you what they just never literally never mention it
Okay, which has created a situation in call of duty games in which when a patch comes out
You you you're like, is this is this gun worse?
And even if they say it's worse, you're not sure
I can't believe
I can't believe you just described the scenario that now has me partially in favor of my patch notes lying to me
Well, you know what happens, right?
The fans wow these to date they I don't think they've ever been intentional
I think they've always been mistakes in which they they announce a nerf
And then yeah, it's just not in the changelog
It's just not in the in the patch
and
Every time they announce the nerf for a gun and it doesn't actually go through
People describe the gun performing worse and usage statistics drop drop through the floor
Oh
Riot I think with league has done that where like balance changes have not actually gone through despite being announced
And pick rates go down
Like enormously. Oh, wow because plus balance is a fact like
Um, what's what's the word I'm looking for? Um
Not impression
Your your your perception your perception of balance is just as important as balance
100 a good example back in old overwatch
Was may may was balanced, but she felt horribly unbalanced to play against because she would freeze you in place
And that sucks. It yes. Yeah, your inability to move
Felt way less fun than the actual loss of of of time. It is fair. It doesn't feel fair
Therefore, it's not fair
Like it's it's weird. It's a whole it's a whole fucking thing. I totally totally. Yeah, your your perception of it totally
I understand that. Um, that is the art of and that's the art of game design to be perfectly honest. Um,
it's it's why
things that it's why enemies that get
harder to fight in
games like doom eternal and uh devil may cry are a welcome addition
Whereas things that limit your ability and how you can fight them and or take away your ability to play
Are awful and less fun like sticky goop. It's right control decks are trash
Fuck you control deck users
Uh, so so that is
Fucking like gas nerfing. You're just you're gas nerfing people
Into thinking something is better or worse and it's fucking not
That's wild and i'm kind of interested in the data. You know on something like that
um
What I was gonna say was that I always praise
um
rising thunder and um
Uh uh dawn of war for having the most transparent and comprehensive patch notes
In terms of just like their willingness to explain to you the minutia of what they've done
In the case of dawn of war, it's literally giving you like, um
Is giving you the changes to damage variables with like if i'm not mistaken with decimal points
You know
um
And like my like and if you're if you're a data cruncher you love that shit
Whereas rising thunder would just like I said, uh give you the this was the intended use of this button
Here's what actually happened when it got used and here's what we're changing to encourage the intended
result
um
Keats gives a really good example of uh of of like balancing at the core source when it comes to um
Uh killer instinct as well. There's a really nice part where they can't they talk about how like
An experiment with like open being open about balancing and things like that like how the how the perception
sometimes
will
uh be
Uh confusing so like uh like he'll describe how for example jago
was a character that like was complained about because
um, he had an ability that allowed him to heal
Uh by using fireballs or it early on in the game just by walking around in some cases
Like it was it was kind of nuts and people were like what the fuck right? Why is this uh like why is this so strong?
um
And then it kind of goes on to describe that like it's a thing where like people are just like yeah
he needs to they need to address this thing they need to address this thing. This is kind of the problem
um
and
He then says he's like well, we like to diagnose
The issue and then treat the symptom
Not the cause right and he's like so when we looked at it what you actually ended up seeing was
It's like why why is this what is the problem with jago here? It's like well, it's because he's um, he's unfun to fight because this
You know he has this this ability and this happens, but what's actually happening is that um
he is
Really he has no real bad matchups and he's quite
safe at
Far and close range and in mid-range where he would have a problem
He's got a move that allows him to close the distance immediately
and
Get out of that range with and it's a safe move. So if you block it he loses nothing right
So basically it's like there's one place where he's bad at but he can get out of that for free every time
Thus he's never he's never forced to stay where he's bad. So
Uh what they did was they're like instead of addressing what people were directly complaining about they changed that
kick so that he could no longer get out of his bad
his his his his the area that was his best his worst place to be in for free
And then they announced that and the people people kind of went back. This is not what we asked for fuck off
That's terrible. That sucks. It's not the change
but
then
As the season went at came out and time went on the complaints went down
Because he was not winning as hard because they dealt with the symptom and not the cause right, you know
Um, I'm not the effect rather. So, um, there's there's these little things where you just kind of go like man
Like yeah, it is a hard job to kind of figure that shit out
Um, but I like the audacity of just doing it openly in a forum in front of everybody
At an event because it's so fun to watch and like as they go through the reasoning and they give it to you
Oh, then like, you know, everyone can react and say what they want to say and go through it, but um
It's just something that fighting games never had and never had again and never and probably never will
At the rate things are going, you know
But like the fight on documentary covers a lot of that shit and like it's it's super. It's a lot of fun to learn about
Um
I think about
Like just diving deep on the dev diving deep on like the particularly I have the patch
No, things stuck on my head and in my background
And that was sorry in the back of my mind. All I can think of is
The smash ultimate patch notes, which address the cause sorry address the cause not the symptoms. Yes
I said the wrong thing. I misspoke. I'm sorry for smash ultimate
It's like various characters have been adjusted
And that's the whole thing
Or when you or when you fucking get a patch and it's like various bug fixes
Go to hell
Don't even talk to me
I don't even want to talk to you at all
Various adjustments have been made
Was just like I wanted to fucking kick my computer, dude
I wanted to kick my fucking like
You just shut up
Literally just don't even say it. Don't even talk to me. Just fuck off
Why are you even bothering to put the note like shut up?
And then people will go through what they have to go through to figure out
Excuse me piece by piece. What's different? They'll they'll see what frame data changed or what didn't they'll check the hit boxes to see what changed
We'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. Thanks for nothing. But like you you're giving like
Less than zero information about this and you're just saying I was a fucking we don't want it's the worst
It's the worst, you know, so anyway, that's off the point
um
The documentary goes into a lot of that and it goes into
Some other really fun design elements and things that like now that we can hear about how it how it went down
It makes sense about how like tj combo
when when double helix
Stepped out of the picture and amazon kind of bought them and then iron galaxy stepped in for season two
And it was like, ah, fuck. Damn it. Okay. Well, what what's gonna happen here?
You know, like everyone at double helix was like, yeah, that wasn't great
We weren't too happy about that. But what are you gonna do with no control over the situation?
And then iron galaxy steps in and they're like, okay. Well, we got this
We've done some good stuff and then like the first thing they do is drop the tj combo
Like dlc for the next character and he's like his lips aren't moving and he's got some really rough animations
Everyone's like, oh god. Oh god. This is it's done. It's over and then you kind of find out behind the scenes
It's like yeah microsoft gave them
Four weeks to make this character
Like from scratch
They had the outline forum and they had four weeks
How long is it how long could it take like like you get you make the model like a day
And then you just put the moves in and then you're done, right? And it's uh, you know, you're done
So
You're just like, oh my fucking god
The fact that he came out in any way
playable and
you know
and and like
Decently added in with the idea of the character working is a miracle at this point every single
It's a fucking miracle every single thing. But at the time we were just like up is a miracle like that
Yeah, but it was just like it was one of those things where it was it was it was actually a cotor 2 type moment
Of like you did what with what time? Yeah
But at the time all we knew about was like first character botch, you know
um
Like i'm sure if we went down to uh fucking ea and got somebody off the bioware team
To talk about anthem, right?
And we'll find the guy it's like dude. I can't believe that game even shipped
Like it was a fucking
It is an unbelievable triumph that that game even came out at all, right?
When you find the backstory, you know, when you get the information of like, oh my god, they they did
miracles like they fucking
grind it out
Uh, what should have been like a long amount they did they did three years worth of work in like, you know
Uh 14 months and they they spit out a game that unfortunately only gets good once you put the restored content back in you go
Oh, fuck. Okay. I get it. I get it. I understand, you know
Um, yeah, so it's so interested to talk to you when you go back and you find out exactly what
wasn't there
Oh, oh, i'm already aware of some of them and i've already hit the most upsetting one
Um, i'm at the like in kotor 2 at least the the the point at which and this is like whatever
I'm not going to spoil anything if I can avoid it
But there's a point at which characters literally just vanish from the party with no explanations. Let's go
That is the worst it is it's the worst i've ever seen
I've like that was the most upsetting thing the most upsetting thing i've experienced in a game like that almost ever
Like not even an attempt at shitty resolution
One like not even a poochie poochie got done better because we saw poochie leave
We saw poochie leave and his cell got pulled out
I'm talking about the moment this cutscene ends
You no longer have a character on your team
Cuz um
Fuck
Dear the back half of the game you're gonna have like a real ending and
Um
What is absolutely mind blowing and i'm sure veal pointed out is that the final planet
In the original it was just like a series of teleporting rooms
And like you would you would be teleporting like
All over the place like you there's scenes in orbit and there'd be scenes on the planet
and it like
This guy is here. How did he get there? Just
You know like it's almost almost like a more extreme version of rise of skywalker
The restored content so far is like miraculous, you know
Especially when i'm watching a moment and then right at the end of it
It's like by the way that was not in the original and i'm like, oh my god that is
context for why events occur
And without that moment this thing makes no sense and it's like yep 14 months
Anyway, so um
Watch fight on um
It's it's really good, uh, Esteban did a great job
He's been like banging away at it for nine months and the baby's now born
and uh, go give a
go give a a fucking
A sub of love to hold back to block
and um, what we also did was like
You know perfectly in conjunction with that. Uh, hey the game happened to be on sale
Uh for this week because microsoft is like, oh
We did a uh get into fighting games where we labbed it up
And we learned about some characters and we went and went back to ki and it's the when you watch the doc like
You really like it puts the fucking feeling of like dammit. I should boot this game up and play
You know you walk out of that like yeah, I absolutely am in the mood to play some ki
And so I did I played a bunch of ki this week. Um jumped back online and um
I'm coming at it with a with a new character. I'm doing everything I can with agonis
The big stone golem. Yeah, I love agonis as an idea because he's the most you one of the most unique fighting game characters
I've ever seen the um like the feeling of kicking a bitch through multiple walls
Is it is like unlike anything else, right? Um for those who are unfamiliar
Um
Agonis is the heavy in in the game. There's a couple of them, but he's the heaviest by far
And the idea was let's make a big old boy
but
He's not going to be a grappler
Because big old boy always equals grappler, but in this case they're like no remember juggernaut
Juggernaut was a big old fucking heavy and he was just hitting you hard
So let's find a way to to like, you know design around that and what they came up with
What they came up with is like a character that
Will never exist again
Let's be real
He will never exist again. It's like
Unique in his mechanics, right? It's a it's a rock golem made of like different parts
Just kind of held together by magic and um
it has
four
Chunks rock chunks of uh that you can put inside your chest as you play
And each one gives you a hit of armor that you can tank
But they also allow you to do his moves. So each one is can be a fireball
Each one can be a hit of armor
Each one can be used to like for example, he spits it out and then punches it and then it breaks apart like a shotgun
It's pretty great
And uh
As you put them in your body and add more you move slower because you get heavier
So when you have no armor, you can very quickly walk around like normal speed like a big well
You're like a big boy. Yeah quick for a bit of quick for a big boy
You know, but you can walk around at a normal speed and as you add the rocks into your body
You get really slow, but heavily armored, you know
So yeah, you can spit the rocks out as moves. You can use them to take armor hits
Which allows you to just like take a hit and then dish one back while ignoring the the stagger that you usually would have
and most fun of all
Is you can use them to put a wall down in the middle of the stage
Either behind your opponent or behind yourself and not in between stage smaller
So I can force you to be trapped in here with me
Rorschach style and have a like you can't get away from me now
I'm a big boy and your only thing is to break this wall by making me fall down three times
Or for me to punch you through the wall
Or combo you into it, you know
So you just kind of like have this really fun system of like I have all these chunks
I can do all these different things with it including change the size of the stage
And force you into close quarters
And if I have my back to a wall that I've put down
I can grab the wall and use it like a club in my hand
Which then gives me a big old extra ranged heavy hit
That moves fast swing just
Or I can throw it at you. So I'm just like, oh my god
This character is so
Interesting on a mechanical level because he doesn't play like a fighting game character at all
He plays like something like a boss in a weird game that can put up walls and limit your ability to move and you know
Like the way doom bosses will put up a hallway that forces you to jump over there their beams, you know
Um, and I'm like, I just want to learn how to play this guy
I want to learn how to do this because like this is going to be unique to this game forever
And uh, yeah, like I've I've managed to get through the rankings. I'm doing all right
Um, way worse than I was when I last played the game
I was about to ask like you you left off ki a long time ago
Yes, and my my uh, I was doing really rough at first
In uh, when I was playing online against people
But like I'm starting to get back into it and I'm starting to like do a lot better my my
I think my last my last ranking record was like eight and two
you know and um, just sticking with aghanos and trying to remember
What the animations of the game looked like so that I can use the right combo breakers, you know
Killer instinct man. It's a lot of fun playing on your xbox
Playing on pc now. Okay. How's match times on that?
Um match times are like the hours I was playing at were some that like kind of had me stuck fighting the same guy
Like a bunch of matches in a row. Okay, so like
It was unfortunately pretty slow to get a match up when there was not that many people online, you know
That that's the reality of it is is uh, sometimes I'd get a couple matches back to back other times
It would be you know about a minute maybe two
Oh, that's not bad all things considered
Um, the longest I've had was about five minutes waiting for a match. I'd say
um
But like I was also playing at like three in the morning and just kind of you know
And with cross play on you know, but um, it's got rollbacks. So once you do start a match and you start playing with people
You're great. You're good, you know, like no connection issues whatsoever because yeah
K. I built with rollback in mind and it fucking works
I should try and get my pals back in a k. I
play some casual matches
Go watch them go watch the the dock first so that you can feel it in your fucking in your bones, you know get the juice in you
Um, but uh, yeah, k. I is a lot of fun to come back to and I realized too like there's a bunch of shit that I'm like
Oh man, I unlocked so much on the on my original xbox save
But now it's all gone on my on my pc save. So I'm kind of starting from scratching away
but uh
It it you know, there was a there was a lot of people that kind of said like
Yeah, like I'll wait for k. I had to be done, you know, and um as the documentary kind of points out
It's like well, it's done. It's a pretty good game and
You know it you can you can get it pretty cheap right now and it's a fuck ton of fun
And it works. So there's there's there's nothing but good times ahead on that
And it's gonna be at Eva. So why not? Why not go brush up?
So I had a lot of fun with that this week
Alternating between uh matches of teppen and uh and ki as I waited here and there
Yeah, honestly having a decent card game on your phone or honestly just good phone game makes a lot of the fighting game
Pain of match making time go away
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. It uh
Gives you occupied and then although of course like if you're playing a ranked match then you you can't fucking
You know, you got to finish that shit. I'll throw my card game away to get in a fighting game match
Okay, well, I'm I'm trying to crack that top 100. So um every like loss has hurt a lot more
you know
Excuse me and then the other thing that's really fun in in ki2 is the way it's online ranking mode works
Where you do 10 placement matches
And then after those 10 matches, it'll determine whether you go to uh bronze silver
gold
You know and then um
You can work your way up from each bottom league up to higher and higher and higher
You never fall back below the the the level you're at. Yeah
um
And once you make it up to gold
Uh, if you make it out of gold you then get into the killer bracket, which
Is where like, uh, you can fight amongst like the top players to try and get to the top 32
You know and there's like a tournament sort of two out of three setting that that kicks in automatically and a lot a lot of fun stuff
so
Anyway, that's killer instinct
Um
And yeah, you know beyond that like
still um
Still chipping away at at core. I'll talk a little bit more about that in the future
and
Uh, yes, doom eternal. I am done now. You finished doom eternal
You can't just shoot a hole in mars, dude
Fucking did it
Fucking did it
Funny how the game um
So i'm gonna now spoil doom eternal as i'm talking about it if you don't want to hear any store
If you don't want to hear any plot or story spoilers about doom tune out now
But we'll leave the story
And if you tune in after i've given you this warning i i'm sorry i i can't i don't know what to say
Okay, so
in terms of doom eternal
it's kind of interesting how they
hint at even more
Shit and then don't explain it in regards to sam hayden
In particular the massive retconning of his origin story
We get a full-on cutscene where he is the seraphim that makes you
And he is not from
Uh argent dener and he is not from
We don't know where he's from but like when he gets when you get to
Udack and he's like isn't it beautiful and you're like wait, you've been here before the fuck um
And and the idea is of course that uh, you know vega is like, ah, I see I am the father
It's like oh you put god on a usb stick and converted it into uh an os and then you try to kill it in the last game
Which is also, yeah
Which is super confusing
But and then in the last game too. He was a guy who used to be human
There's a picture of him on the wall in the game as a human being
And um, uh, didn't he it wasn't it cancer, I believe
He there was some affliction that he had he was a guy and then
And then he could and then he then he transferred his consciousness into a robot except no that was a fake story
Yes
But yet you may I totally forgot that
Yeah, you were about to fucking kill god and then it was doom slayer that backed it up on a stick
Before it was too late
so
What the fuck I completely forgot about that
uh
Confusing well, anyway, that was also when he had the confidence to think he could win the fight
And as we saw uh, he fucking botched it
super hard and lost so
um
You know and I was kind of waiting to see like are we gonna have a conversation are we gonna hear?
uh
Sam have anything to say about how badly it all went down
And he's like no, I'll just go to mars get the bfg 10000
We got to do this thing and you're like, oh, okay, sam. He knows he failed. There's not much to say
Most importantly, I wanted my fucking sword and I got it
And when you pull it out everything vibrates and rumbles and and and
It I thought the sword was going to be uh replacement for
The melee button right and uh, it's better than that. It's a whole different thing
It's a
It's a super super melee button. Yeah, exactly
Uh, you get your swing pips of it good stuff
I don't know. I think um
All in all like those last fights
The fight against the con maker
Was fucking great, dude
They knew exactly what they wanted you to feel
When you play that fight and like the the in the way you do damage is you break the shield down
Then you grapple in and they could have just said grapple in and and shoot it or whatever
But it's like no you have to grapple in and blood punch
Which means this is designed so that you will punch god in the face
We've built this boss fight around the idea of shutting this god the fuck up in mid-speech and it's it's great
It's really really fun. I eventually uh found a um
I got the rhythm down of like
exactly seven rockets of your salvo will
Delete the shield and then so you can kind of hit the jump
While doing the chrono strike and aiming
Uh, you get three off immediately lock on for a second three if you've got the upgrade
And do a double jump to keep that like momentum at the highest point
And then on the way down you get a last shot off that breaks the shield and then grapple
By switching to the super shot before you're done the jump and pull yourself in for the blood punch
Magical fucking magical, dude
um
And then uh the last fight with the icon of sin is not here was
Not as good, but it feels like a better way of
Accomplishing what bioshock 2 tried to do
So bioshock 1 had a terrible last boss and everyone was like well that was garbage
So then they solved quote-unquote the problem by just making it a super wave
The super wave was
infinitely
Is just an uninteresting way to go about it, but technically yes
It did solve the problem of a bad boss
Well, doom eternal is the kind of game where it's like, okay
We'll give you a wave that you use
As momentum to then deal big damage to the big boy who is kind of just another
enemy in the room
To deal with with a really long multiple life bar kind of situation really long life bar
Chunks of armor chunks of skin to deal with
But generous amounts of bfg ammo generous amounts of of sort of uh crucible
Pips for you
But like I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. I thought it was really fun and it was a good test of what was going on
Uh with the flow it was make it was a nice exam to make sure that you you had it down
And then uh, you know, you would you would make use of everything you had
Uh
While while he was vulnerable, you know
The second phase in particular
Is like the first phase you fight him in is just like the big empty sort of like arena, which is like that's cool
The second phase is a tighter arena and it's vertical
Yeah, you know, so it tests you on both metrics of like your vertical
Navigation abilities and your your your horizontal, you know, so to speak
Um all in all man fucking great game
Uh
really really cool only complaints I have
Um besides the obvious Bethesda nonsense
That I've talked about in the in the past. Yeah, the only other complaint I have is that now the music
At the end of each encounter doesn't have a little stinger to be like
It just kind of fades in and then fades out
So you're hunting for any last little imps, but they're all dead
So it doesn't have that like pop-off moment that you're looking for so like you in doom 2016
I had these great moments of like, oh shit
The room the room is on and then the adrenaline's flying and you're taking everything and on and you're fighting and you're dealing with the problems
And and then you finally get it and then the game's like, yeah
Boom, here's the points you got your your weapon upgrades and then like the mick gordon track just kind of fucking
You know wraps itself up in a nice little way and I'd be like, yeah
Um
2016 had that and an eternal gets rid of it because the dynamic soundtrack just fades out of the top layer
And kind of goes back to like that
It kind of goes back to that but the fight is over entirely so you're like, oh, okay
This is the dynamicness takes away the final stinger. Um and that kind of bugs me
It was way it was really cool to have that exclamation mark at the end of the sentence
you know
I honestly don't even remember that from doom 2016 soundtrack, but you played them back to back
I played them back to back. Yeah. Yeah, so, you know, very much no better than me
Um, yeah, and I couldn't use any skins
Yeah, but that was a bug woolly
Was it? Yeah
I thought it was I thought it was because I could I didn't sign in. Yeah, that was the bug
It was day one patch where they said, oh, yeah
You're for whatever reason you're not able to get these without signing in if you update the game
Then you'll be able to use them without signing in
Oh, it wasn't that it wasn't that signing in was mandatory for them. No, it was that you never patched the game
I see. Okay. Well, that makes sense
Um, so
uh
Yeah
all in all
Fucking fucking good shit, man. Good game
Did you even touch the multiplayer aspect at all? I did the tutorial
And then I was like, no
And it was like, no, thanks
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was fine. Uh, it was fine. Um
I do uh
I I love the mastery tokens at the end. We're just like, are you done
with this guy? I'm done
Good here you go
They throw like for you in the last two levels that are just like, all right, we get it
No need you want your shield? Here you go. There's tons. There's way more than you would need. Yeah. Yeah. It was great. It was great. Um
And uh, I don't know. I mean, you know the lore was
Fucking it was a lot more fun than I than I expected for
Something that is, you know started with with doom guy pushing the the lore tablet iPad out of his way. So
Um, yeah, that was great. That was fucking solid
I see the hooks in place for the sequel. Yeah
um
It seems like it'll be a
Uh a mick gordonless sequel and I I I feel bad for whoever has to fill those shoes. Yeah
It's gonna be very tough very tough shoes to fill
And I understand that the situation is a little bit more gray
But people have pointed out that you know, like, uh, he's to blame for some of it too, but um
All I'm saying is if you have to make his music
Stylings in the third game without him, uh, that's hard. That's a hard task. That's all I'm saying
So
Also the increased push for Bethesda social network stuff in this reminds me of like Dead Space
That's like what they do to that
Dead Space one was a
Simple ass horror game. It was great. And then Dead Space two is like here's multiplayer. Do you care about it? No
Uh, and then Dead Space three was like it's co-op the whole time and micro transactions. It's just like
I
Can't help themselves man. So so Dead Space was uh visceral, right? Yep. And what uh, and just ea at the height of there
Yep, like
meddling
And visceral no longer exists
Yeah, yeah, I had a friend who worked there
Um, it really is
kind of
miraculous that
That things like fall in order were allowed to just be what they were
Oh, yeah, because it's like when it's just like, oh, yeah, this is gonna just be a thing and no other
No meddling and everyone's like I don't believe you
You know the the anchor man gift just
No, they
Yeah, yeah, but it seems like they let it happen
Well, anyway, um
That's doom
Court or two should be wrapping up this week
And both will be replaced
With some very exciting
Fun things that I think people will enjoy
Uh, and as usual, uh, wait for the surprise to find out
So that is
new lp starting tomorrow on woolly versus, uh
on twitch
And uh, you can watch along with the anime on youtube
Same thing woolly versus
And yeah, if um, if court or two wraps up this wednesday, then
next
Next week we'll have
A new lp for that. So a full rotation should be in store
for
um, the next
couple of days
I like when I like when
Two games end at the same time
Because it it fully feels like a new a breath of fresh air, you know
It feels like you've you've you've done a little bit of spring cleaning
And now everything and you've opened up the windows and you've gotten some of the dust out
And you just you end out on a really cool note in both cases and then you just go
All right, let's let some fresh air in here, you know
And uh, I got two two breaths of fresh air coming in. So that's yakuza kawami, too
Come on from woolly. That's right
Uh, dead souls actually
Oh
Don't do that one. Mm-hmm. I'm telling you right now. I'd ought to do that one. Well, that's a
Oh
Yep, dead souls and uh
Some other shit
Dead souls and dead aim
I
Told you what happened with dead aim, right?
I forgot you did
And then we we we then just deleted it. We didn't even save the audacity
No export no export
We're sitting there
Like doing the noise cancellation and then we're like, no
Delete this
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's happened. That's happened
God, I wish I could remember which games it's happened for but it's it's happened more than once so just like
So you're gonna be doing all that over woolly verses
over there
And uh, you can get all the updates if you want to
Jump on twitter at woolly wools on twitter. I'm on instagram too. Oh, you feel like seeing some random pictures. I'm on it. Yeah
All right
What's your instagram thing woolly wools? Oh, okay
Uh doing my soshis
Meanwhile over at twitch.tv slash pat stairs that I have a big week this week and streaming almost every day
Uh tomorrow's pyramid head day. Hooray. These are all gonna be 8 p.m
So it's gonna be uh me one peach saliva one dk
Dimentis one quiet shy and one rosalyn. We're gonna be playing some pyramid head dead by daylight custom games
Uh, and maybe maybe a few like ranked games afterwards
Then I got dusk ori and the blind forest and oprah din
and
Interesting
So I bought that too and uh
That was actually
Supposed to take the spot that doom 2016 took. Oh, yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was gonna I was considering playing over din
uh
But I played doom instead you should play it. Uh, yeah, yeah, I'm very interested after fucking papers, please
I really want to know what's going on with it. Interesting. Cool. Uh and on saturday
because
and I quote
I am an influencer that is a good fit for reviewing playstation titles
and quote
And under my personal assumption, it's because I called neil druckman a bitch on twitter
I will be uh streaming last of us part two on saturday. Thanks for the early access
How's about that?
Grats. Yeah, that that email chain is hilarious
Like it's it's hilarious
to me
But i'm like I was literally
Joking about how big neil druckman's diaper was yesterday and had just finished retweeting an article about how last of us
To try and make you feel guilty is fucking stupid. And then I got an email from sony that's like, do you want a review code?
Am I I would love a review code?
Well, you know how this works
You go to twitch you see the numbers the numbers hit the threshold you send the code out
Well, we've done the research and we think you're a great fit. So I mean obviously that means they think all the shit
I've been saying is cool. So
See you guys on saturday for that
You're gonna go for the uh the straight through
I don't know sitting. Let's see. Let's see how sad I am
When that thing happens that i'm not allowed to talk about even though
I would have talked about last week, but I signed a bunch of documents saying I can't talk about it
I bet I'll feel really bad and guilty. Hey
I hear the writing is really good. I hear that the main menu is a boat
Yeah, the embargo allows me to put up a screenshot of the main menu
So that everyone knows I have the game. It's one of the weirdest embargo conditions. I've ever seen
Oh man
It's hate
On letting people know you have the game you just can't talk about it if you want
This is this is you could take screenshots of the game on your ps4 dashboard or the main menu
This is the weirdest vibe
Uh
A sequel to something amazing has ever had. Oh, it's so bizarre. This is the weirdest vibe. It's ever been
um
And uh, some people asked actually like whether or not I care
and the answer is I do
because
despite
What is up?
um, I want to
form my own opinions and
Treat it like the internet doesn't exist. Yeah, and just play the video game as the sequel to the game
I really liked that I played years ago. Yeah, and when I'm done doing that, I will form my own opinions
I I do not enjoy
Having the opinions formed for me and telling me what to do or think about what I want to play
So that's where I'm at and I intend to sit down and just see what I well how it goes
weirder place
Because the embargo that I have signed is so strict
It's very they are
terrified
Of spoilers
And they don't want anyone talking about
The things they were already talking about
It's like it's so goofy
It's so goofy. They had me initial every line of the spoiler agreement to make sure I got it
To make sure I understood and I'm like I'm looking at these
Conditions like don't talk about this. Don't talk about this. I'm like people have mean these things to death guys
Well, there's two there's two ways to go. You know that when it happens you can either get the pillow out
Or the camera
Yeah
You know they went for the pillow
um
Stries in effect, but also like the part of it. It's like hey make
You can let people know you have it and they don't because that's exciting. It's also really weird
Really really weird
Somebody asked me earlier today like are you gonna give the game like a fair chance? I'm like, I'm sure the game is actually really good
I just think that the people that work at that studio that are talking about it
Like one Beale Pupman
are insufferable
uh
douchebags
Who crunched their staff to death and our assholes
Yeah, you should take one of those hype photos where it's like the title screen and then like
You making the face of like I got it and you don't and then just like you
I mean I kind of already did that this morning
I put up a screenshot of the ps4 dashboard and the title screen with the with the title fucking
lol part two
And then just use like just use like your scrotum to just press the start button. Maybe just be like
You know, maybe I did just get a nice and loose. That's great. I just saw that in the chat. That's great
He'll fuck man
That is a that is a great alternate name
I can't tell if
Games are better off for you with the people that make them on twitter or worse
Like I cannot I can't tell if it's a net positive
Or net negative game. It is a it is a zero-sum game
It is absolutely
Zero-sum the the like as the shit piles the enjoyment rises and it stays in equilibrium. Yeah
I get it. Okay. That's like there's kajima
Just like talking non-stop about his leather jacket and then you're playing the game. You're like, wow
So really detailed leather jacket in this game. You're like, oh kajima, right? And then there's okay
and then there's
Um
Then there's dumb asses
behind certain sony titles
Going
It's really offensive that you would talk about how our game isn't as important as schindler's list
And you're like, are you
Is that is that the verbatim?
so, um
The verbatim is
Jeff canada says that when everything in our game industry is john wick or trying to be john wick
Uh, last of us too is schindler's list
And some that's a reviewer that that's a reviewer. Yeah, and some guy
Some dude with 20
20, you know follow, you know, some dude just quote retweets it and goes, okay, that's like the worst take ever. This is ridiculous
right
and
He'll fuck man
Retweets that with his 30k followers and go this kind of
Ironic joke really isn't appropriate and is kind of hurtful even for things that are of such such serious subject matter
That's like your game's not as good as schindler's list and it's not as important
And schindler's list is based off a real series of events in one of the worst times in history. How about you pull your head out of your ass?
I mean unless
Unless the post apocalyptic setting of two somehow turns into real
Setting that has to cover real events and then they decide to make it less of a video game and more of a
Social message about real things that happened like I can't imagine I don't I don't understand how
The context of the fiction could ever go in that direction
This isn't as good as schindler's list and the the the paraphrase that comes back is but it is though
It's fiction. Fuck off
Holy shit, pull it out of your ass your whole head, okay, well
In any case
I will boot the video game up and I will play it as a heal fuckman in the street and on the moon
I'm gonna press start and play it as if uh
I hit the credits on the last game and then I did the dlc and now i'm seeing what's going on here
And we'll see what's up. We'll see but uh, that's uh, I bet that game's fun
That's a big dumb. Yeah
I bet I'm gonna feel really conflicted where I'm like, oh this game's pretty good. What a bunch of fuck asses who made it
Probably and that's kind of why I'm I that's kind of why I sound the way I do. Yeah, but um
This is absolutely the weirdest vibe
There's ever been I've now. Yeah, I can't think of anything anything for a sequel to something amazing
And guess what the sequel is probably gonna be good, but
Yeah, very sorry, I need to take that back. Uh fun is not a word to be used
Excuse me this game fun is not a word to be used
with last of us too
It's explicitly not meant to be fun
Is this a verbatim yes not fun is a advertising phrase for the game
It is not fun. It is serious. It is impactful. It is uncomfortable
Jesus Joel
I
Am just the kind of person sony wants reviewing this game. That is verbatim
All right, well, uh, everybody tuned in on saturday to uh, to enjoy that
That's gonna be a weird stream
Hey, when's the um
When when do the rest of us pubs get a check crack at it thursday, uh midnight
Okay, I'm uh, I could stream at thursday midnight or friday, but uh, I feel like people would rather see obriden or orion the blind forest
Hmm
Man those games are beautiful. They're good
And they're fun
I like when games are fun, I like it when games are fun
So
Shall we news yes
Hey, there was a lot of news this week, but we talked about a good deal of it
So we can jump right to we can skip past the first three stories
Since we've covered them all
and go right to
um
The fucking demon souls
Yo demon souls remastered
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey
You know what what blue point
Yeah
Yeah, yeah, right point. Yeah, you see that like that popped up and I'm like
Yeah, also confirms the january rumors, but regardless
um
Yeah, yeah, sure. They did it
There they did they did it. This is uh, this is their most this is clearly the most amount of um
Input they're getting on a game
Like they've done a lot of like, you know upscales and remasters and what have you
But they're changing designs and they're like well
They they you saw what they did for shadow
Yes, like shadow the colossus they the comparison of like old to new they showed you like no
We've rebuilt this and then all you need to do is look at some of those screenshots of
um
the environment
And like you go. Oh, this is built. This is not
remastered as much as it is
like
re
Recreated re everything re everything. Yeah. Yeah
um
Looks super pretty. Um
Hey
Souls between this and and elden ring
um
Even besides the the healthy mods going on right now souls are going to be back in in in in an official capacity
I'm curious to find out if they're going to change
The online infrastructure at all if maybe they're going to allow it to do things like they did with scholar the first sin
So maybe you can get more people connected to one there is one game a description on the game's official trailer
That says it will feature a
fractured mode
Um, which to me is either a remix or some kind of non-server based
Uh version of tendency
Right like
Just
asymmetrical
No, just like you
Non multiplayer tendency system
You know
Oh, and they deleted that description. Oh, that's super confirmed then great
Uh
It makes me wonder
How much input they're gonna get because demon souls is
Jank as fuck
It is so fucking jank
Now how much of this jank do we preserve? How are they just gonna fucking translate the jank instantly?
like right away or
Are they gonna clean some of it up because maybe you don't want them to clean some of it up, you know, it's it's
It's interesting
Well, look for example, I think the the the
The biggest question that'll answer a lot to me
Would be what is the old monk gonna be? Yeah. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, that's gonna answer everything
How do they handle old monk if we see that?
Then you can infer everything you need to from that. I have a different question, which is uh, will they
complete the fifth archstone?
Oh, yes, right the missing content. Yeah. Yeah, totally. That's that's another obvious, uh
Place to go as well. Mm-hmm
um
Yeah, man, it it's crazy because like
A lot of people like obviously like everyone that's like super in there on souls has been like talking about this for a while
And and wanting to see it come back and and see it like get its own
recognition
but there is a larger broader base of
People and and you know that are just like
like like gamers
uh, that
Kind of thought that like Dark Souls represents the sequel and replacement of that, you know
This is a weird
Fuck it. Yeah thing. No, clearly, right like going back and seeing how it's like, oh you took
That and you built off of that to create the soul the Dark Souls games
Like Demon Souls is absolutely like it's got its own thing going on
in many places, but
there's so much basis there that
um, there's an overall sort of like
Oh, isn't that just like the thing that Dark Souls is the sequel of?
You know kind of like on it on a
Sort of I guess a casual understanding much more popular
But then also but you're not only that but like in this case and then of course with Bloodborne in all these in all these
Cases you're dealing with like different companies that have partial ownership over the IP, you know
So uh, that is pro perhaps like that's the most important factor that doesn't necessarily
um
That's not necessarily commonly understood, you know, which would explain why Dark Souls can get remastered on on a switch
But Demon Souls can't go anywhere until it's back on a PlayStation 5, you know
um
Yeah, it's uh
It's gonna be it's gonna be interesting to see like what they leave the same and or if they try to remix anything
I would imagine if they're doing like Shadow the Colossus, you know, they were gonna probably
not risk the wrath of like
changing gameplay too much
because
You know people that want this alive again
Want the experience they had alive again
But prettier more than I think they want a
Remixed mode and if they have a remixed mode then let it be a mode as opposed to the default
but really go look at
Sorry, there's a bunch of folks that are
Very disappointed with the look and say that it's ruined the whole aesthetic and this is coming from people that I would otherwise
respect in artistic
Matters and I'm like you people are insane
The the game was like hilariously drab because they had no
Texture budget that's why every every part of every stage was the same color
Shove it
I mean if you've only watched the trailer at the show
Go check out the screenshots. No, they're talking about the screenshots
Okay, well then if that if that's what you're talking about then you're seeing it at the best version of it, but I
The screenshots are what really made me go. Holy fuck. That looks really nice
Oh, it was the it's the shot of like the building the very first building you go into in the tutorial
That used to be like some generic pile of blocks and now it's like this
This thing that I wish was a bigger level
Or the new vanguard which doesn't look like a
Donkey Kong
CG monster anymore
I mean the shield
The shield knight uh tower night much blue on him woolly
Gross
Now he looks great tower night looks great tower night looks crisp
Um, yeah
If i'm not mistaken
um
That was the
When I went through that I did that with my first like sword and board built
Because I had I had avoided it otherwise and it was the um
Yeah, macodo macodo and the adjudicator shield
Barbarian
And I want to go back to Volataria made in black
She back I wonder if they'll add like
Like one new thing, you know, like just like
One little extra thing with like from's blessing
Yeah, well that the the the fucking the broken statue the broken
Gate would be a perfect opportunity for example to be like here's stuff
But we're not taking stuff away. Yeah, you know
That's I think people would be okay with that like here's some extra stuff without like fucking over what you wanted, you know
That's very exciting news get your scraping spears ready gang
And hey guess what if you hate it then you can just hang on for elden ring
Hang on and hang on
Hang on some more
What about okay, what about um new stuff in the form of like
Just more equipment options
Yeah, that'd be fun
Right like not fucking too much with like
What's going on but just giving you like more more uh
More equipment personally, I'm fine with
broader changes
I'm not going to be a purist about this
Okay, to me the the location and content of the game was
Way more interesting to me than how fucked up it was to play
crystal lizards
crystal lizards that can die
And then we'll never come back
Yeah, that doesn't need to stay
Nah, we good we good
We are good
Yep, perfect example perfect example
Okay, um, so that got announced and
um
That was probably the highlight of the ps5 event to me
Mm-hmm. I agree but that and bug snacks
Bug snacks
You saw that right
I saw bug snacks and I was waiting for it to turn into
A trailer for something else. Yeah, and it didn't
Because I'm like this is a fake trailer and then
The real thing is gonna come out at the end in order to be like viva pinata available now on sony for some reason
there's a real like
Tonal dissonance with that where it's like all happy go lucky, but me and page were like
Fucking freaked out. Well, is it because he's eating the things that are cute?
He's eating the things that are cute and then turning into the things
And then
Like all food is anthropomorphized, but then when you eat the food you become an anthropomorphized food
And like the characters are becoming disabled by this process
Like one guy the mayor runs in and says the town is on fire, but I can't do anything because I have wiener hands now
Is bug snacks frog fractions three no, but I think it's I think it's like
I think it's actually like
It's gonna be super fucked
Like super fucked
Because I think the devs came out and said you haven't even seen the weird stuff
So that was intentional then yeah, I think so okay gotcha. All right. It was super intentional. All right
If it's if it's secretly a horror game
Then
Then yeah
They figured it out
Because
Usually trailers can't
keep a straight face
You know they'll play the gimmick until they have to reveal the truth to you and then have the
the filter kick in and
And then the logo and then the blah
They can and they can't keep a straight face
So, um respect if that's what they're doing
Keep the hustle up
Um
Ratchet and clank we kind of touched on it a bit, but uh, yeah
What's actually happening in those little rip teleport moments is like you're
Grabbing a location that is like planets away in real time and moving there apparently. Yeah
So that's fucking impressive on a technical technical level. I didn't load in new levels quite quickly. Yeah, I didn't I didn't quite
parse that like
That's what's always happening was there's a largely loaded in universe here
And you are pulling
portals
Across planets towards you type of thing, which is uh, that's that's that's pretty impressive. You know
And those games are high quality so that'll be a good gun
Yeah
It's also the the next place to take a game like like a member like obviously a portal and pray
would fuck with like that that type of stuff but
To take it to a like again no man's sky or like just large open worlds
Kind of ability that is like, okay. Well now you can jump to that end of the map or whatever the case is
Is a very like
Let's use the features of this console and show off the thing like nintendo would
Kind of I don't think those are like discrete levels. I think those are like sequences. They're just loading in different like
Huge portions of different assets in quickly
Is that what it is? I did not get the feeling that it was fast traveling to different locations
I got the it's I got the idea that I got the feeling that it was
This level I think I might have a teleport into a room that has wildly different assets that we would not be able to
Load in quickly like it looked very on rails
I I you know, I might have just like
read a tweet that
Said something about it being like
Like a large area connected through these things and then yeah, but I'd have to go back and rewatch it
But if that's not what's happening then
Maybe I'm mistaken
Because like when they showed the longer gameplay like that shit was not happening
Okay, so it's just a bunch of set pieces then yeah, the ratchet games are not like open world
Okay, okay. All right. All right
Well, it's still pretty impressive, but oh absolutely, but it's not what I thought
Impressive as they seem to want you to think it is
um
and
It's actually kind of funny because like
Having a like a fucking big old Skyrim giant world or whatever
That had instantaneous fast travel load times or like really fast flight would be
Like the kind of thing that would actually improve a game
But this incredible new technology is mainly being used to show us fancier set pieces
Which the fucking video games
great
Man, I I am cynical. Holy shit
Yeah, well demon cells look good
I mean fucking
Spider-man is the type of game where like you could benefit from that like even though the fast travel is great where he's on the subway
Yeah
The ability to just like turn a comic book page and be somewhere else. Yeah, what the fuck is that game?
It's the the Moz Morales game is a separate game. It's an expansion game. It's a release
Okay, so there was a bunch of confusing
Uh in conflicting information that I saw from people that are not
insomniac
Yeah
So all I know is the confusion quote-unquote stemming from
this
is
From other people talking about it
But when I went to go look at what official
Tweets there were about it insomniac said it's a standalone full game
And then some guy underneath it was like source
Yeah
Everyone's like
What that's good. I like that. Yes sequels separate but equal
I am glad for the Miles Morales. I think that's cool. I'm happy to see that finally
He's gonna kind of fucking
Rad ass game and you know people finally give a shit since spider-verse was great
He's taken way too long for this to happen
But hey, it's here
Um, I really hope that spider-verse com costume is in there
Yeah
Do they know right because like there's did those games that came had a million costumes
What do I not know what is there a piece of information about the game that I'm missing right now?
Is there something are you talking to me?
No, um
Not you. All right. No. All right, nothing
There was so there was uh some
Confused that it seems I'm like is it not a full like what what do we okay? Yeah, it's a full game
So, um
Yes, there was a hard times article that that uh
That was that was written about the thing
So, yeah, um, that was uh shown off there was uh
Oh, yeah, I would have lost money on a bet
Because I could have sworn that if they were gonna make a sequel to horizon zero dawn
It would be called harai ton with the two as the zed
Oh, but they didn't do it. Uh, they didn't do it
Harai ton we're gonna say that it was horizon one dawn
I said I said horizon one dawn in my in my on my on stream exactly
Yeah, I I this straight up or and then I and then I turned it into horizon one dusk
Horizon two noon. Oh man
But no, it's horizon san francisco is gross
All right real name
Uh forbidden west forbidden west
Sure, yeah, sure that first game is good
How long uh
Do you like do you think um
This stays exclusive or do they drop it?
That game's in a weird place because like I have horizon zero dawn wish listed on steam and it still says summer of 2020
Of which it is june 15th right now
so
Where's my horizon zero dawn on the pc it'll probably come to see exactly one year later
Do you think that um
Both sony and microsoft will continue to see the pc as a non-competitor
Man, I don't know
Probably I feel I feel like that might go away
I feel like the idea of we got to fight each other
And the pc doesn't matter do what you want a little bit later, but sure
Uh, I feel like that might go away because we were dealing with a generation of
Exclusivity only meant not that guy. Yeah, you know exclusivity intense
Like first party titles are coming to other platforms as long as it's not that guy as long as it's not that guy
That's the exclusivity anywhere else but that guy
So everyone here can pick my keys up out of this bowl except for jimmy
Jimmy you can go fuck yourself
No key party for jimmy
I think um you guys want to give your keys to jimmy that's fucking fine, but not me jesus christ
You
Yeah, I think uh, I think it'll probably change
As the xbox series x becomes a pc
yeah, and as uh
Companies are probably
Going to aim for simultaneous releases more and more often
PC will slowly start to become a competitor that like they're going to be like, okay. Well, hold on
You know, are we losing some sales here? What are we doing? You know
um
horizon
and
Oh, yeah, so some stuff that didn't actually show up
Uh
There but then still came out around the same time. Do you fucking remember 13 sentinels?
I did that ven that vanilla wear game that we've been waiting on
Aegis rim. Yeah
Yeah
It's got a trailer that they dropped uh on the 12th
And it's uh, it's it shows off like
The 13 characters
That you'll be playing as still vanilla wear
Yeah, but it looks a lot like
It looks more visual novely
Because you don't really see any action in the trailer. It looks like a bunch of the
Characters talking so it might be a vn with mecca in the background
But i'm not a hundred percent sure i need to see that would be exactly what the plan is
did you uh
Did you see this fantasy star home line 2 news?
No, what's up? So, um
A ps o 2 trailer came out that was then deleted
For episode 4 of content, which is uh
You know new content coming to the game
Right um and the bit of text at the end is quote get it from microsoft and more pc platform soon
And then that trailer was up for a little bit and then they killed it and it's like oh
Wonder where that's going man. Well the the fucking in-game manual talks about steam
Mm-hmm, which is really ridiculous
Um
Yeah, so like probably in two months that game will be on steam and it will be like fine. I bet
Hey, that's it's got it's got the virgil as a class, right? Yeah. Yeah, that's cool
You know it'll continue to be awkward like this this this will continue it'll continue this is not going away
so
Anyway, um
So there was there was there was uh 13 sentinels
Which i'm like hey man
George coming tommy what you up to you doing some shit. Let me see
George you drawn titties again
He's drawn titties damn it
And abs and abs. It's true
So earlier today
They showed off of technically hot off the presses star wars squadrons
And uh this to me
If if this is in fact what I think it is this is very exciting
One of the coolest experiences I had
Was the x-wing mini game like vr experience in battlefront. It was incredible
You really like get to feel the strength of vr
When you are cockpit piloting
Um when you are like when you're basically like on foot as somebody
Vr to me is you know what I then again, I haven't played alex right because that's that's a game changer
From what I've been hearing but
The most the most convincing experiences I've had have been the shit where you're in a cockpit
The the zone of the enders experience is it was a lot of fun
Um, but the x-wing one was next level
If this is the game of that experience
We're fucking in for an amazing ride. Yeah, because pay four dollars an hour
Because I was
After that like demo. I was kind of left going like god fucking damn it
I would absolutely kill for this to be like a full game. I would love for this to be a full game
um
So is there something is there something out there about the uh the the length of the game or something like that?
No, it's just got an ea logo on it
So i'm waiting for the news that it's fucked up
Is it four hours long?
No
It just has an ea logo on it. That's it. That's where all my citizen comes from. Okay
well
Did you play the x-wing?
demo
I did not I played okay
It's really cool. So if this is like that
If this is them turning that tech into a full game. I'm immensely immensely excited because um
That demo was great and it was one of my favorite psvr things
You know, so I'm crossing my fingers
Because uh, I remember like years ago
After playing that I was just like god fucking damn it. Where is the game for this?
You know, so
Let's find out. Let's find out um
All I all I all I know is that you know, they said vr and and it and it's it's you know, obviously like it it's ea as well
Uh, but we the the trailer was just all cutscenes. So I mean no no gameplay with maybe a one second bit that might have been gameplay
Mm-hmm
But if it is in fact if it's if it's 40 bucks and it's a it's a game a full game
Based on that experience that uh, the that we had
I'm super in like
I wanted much more of that like this the fact that that thing was 20 minutes was such a crime
You know
So
Um, this is where this is where I'm at
You
And hey, if you feel like dusting off your uh
Your psvr and your copy of battlefront, um, you can see what i'm talking about with that literally don't even know where it is
Literally
Like the the headset. Yeah, I don't know. Okay. I genuinely don't know
And let me check something. Mm-hmm. Also. Yeah rogue squadron
Rogue squadron and uh rubble one
Okay, so uh fun stuff back on the game cube you might want to check out the ace combat seven stuff
Oh, yeah
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm uh
I I was made aware when I uh when I took a quick look at that
Um, I I definitely was like, oh, I am in over my head, but this looks fucking rad for sure
I
Used to play a lot more dog fighting games to be honest. I used to I used to
Um, particularly x-wing versus tie fighter back on pc was like I spent a I played that a lot
um
Spent a like that was one of the star wars games. I pumped the most time in two for sure
You know, I haven't been I really only played the ace combat series
Oh, okay. I only played about half of them
Fair enough. Okay. Well, then I'm coming into this like
With a love for that stuff like I like
I like the star wars dog fighting a lot. I have like x-wing versus tie fighter was a really fun game
and uh
like
If you haven't ever touched it like it was the shit dude. It was fucking cool, man
And like, you know, you you use the full keyboard
As your as your cockpit like controls, you know
You had a ton of different little switches and knobs to to press and
match speed with target and and
divert power to thrusters and
Divert energy to shields rear shields and
Yeah, I might actually like elite dangerous
It's great because elite dangerous has a lot of that kind of like fantasy element of like man, you're in a fucking ship
Yeah, for sure
I mean, obviously, you know, I dig the mech warrior stuff and you know me as the
Fucking steel battalion mark like I'm all about all that like that's just great. So
Um kicking back in with a full vr experience where you can look around the cockpit and do that stuff
Hell, yeah, man
exciting
um
And uh wind commander
I played a fuck ton of wind commander back in the day the original didn't play the sequels that much
But I really played wind commander won a good bit and uh
You know, uh
Got used to
Sort of the the dog fighting mechanics and that like my brother and I spent a bunch of time on the original wind commander
so
Yeah, there's just uh, I got I got some love for
I got some love for these dog fighting games, man. I feel like I missed out
Like I've had I've heard people talk about wind commander with such fucking
Ridiculous
Big old cat boy fucking
Brace in that thing to the evil the evil buff cat boys. I forgot what they're called
But I didn't even hear about those killer. I feel they were like six seven eight years old
And then by the time I tried to get on them
They were you know at that era of like, you know the aughts you try to play one of those old games and they were busted
Right and now I look back and I could probably grab them on gog, right but
I bet I really could I could gog wind commander
But they're so yeah, I'm never gonna get that fucking space feeling that you would probably
Yeah, I I don't I don't know how well they're I don't know how dated I don't know how dated uh, it would feel
If I had to guess
Fairly dated if I had to guess it it would probably not be the same. No, um
But it was still a lot of fun, you know launching with your with your group. It was it was it was like
You know, um
You know all the fun of star star fox all range mode. Yeah
You know like it's a lot of that but like
Just cockpit based with more options and you know in wind commander when you flew out with a squad and like any of your
Any of your squad died. They were permanently gone from the game
Like everyone on your team like like if they're died their name was removed from the fucking board and that's it
They're dead forever. So
You know, you want to you want to not fuck that up, dude
Like it would hurt when you lose somebody in a really hard mission, but you managed to make it through, you know
Did you ever play colony wars? I didn't play colony wars
Because that was like it was a ps1 version of this kind of thing and it was like a lot more actiony
And it was just like vicious as fuck
Like I remember renting it a bunch of times and it was just like almost fucking impossible
What I did play was crimson skies
I never played that one. How have we played so many of this genre and we have zero overlap?
I have no idea
But uh crimson crimson skies was great and that was third person, right?
So the fun of the fun of crimson skies was like, you know, uh, you got to you got to third person in
Play your your ship and that was more multiplayer oriented as opposed to
You know the previous months I was mentioning which were more pve stuff, but like it was tons of fun, man
Um, I played it on pc mainly
But then eventually it got ported to xbox original
And I remember doing a land party where you could wear it with uh james small and some of the the old qa friends
Where we'd play some crimson skies like shit was awesome, man. It was great
um
Yeah, I don't try and convince me that star citizen was out
Uh, just a few days ago
And I looked up on it and I was like
Do you mean in alpha 3.0?
Fuck off
So I already know that uh, you you missed out on the
the desperation
of uh
Being an n64 owner looking for more titles to play
but
Something special if you had an n64 was aro fighters assault
It was a split screen dog fighting game besides star fox. That was uh
Aero aero fighters assault. Yeah
Uh, that was one of those things where you're like, man, I want more dog fighting and uh
I already play a fuck ton of star fox. Give me more. I want something else
So that looks like an n64 is combat. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That came around eventually
Um gamecube got got the the rogue squadron games
Uh, I want to say there was a macros game too
Uh, I want to say there was a macros game like blue sky or something like that. Did you ever play omega force?
Nope
What's that the name of the game? Hold on omega force
Is that the right name?
No, that's the that's the no it was omega
Robotech battle cry. Oh my god. It wasn't macros. It was fucking robotech. Yeah. Omega boost. Omega boost. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Omega boost. Yes
Omega boost. Absolutely. Um
Omega boost was fucking wild
that thing
Was it felt like nothing else? Although that was a like a mecca game. Yeah
And it's also like bordering on next gen for the playstation one and like it was the most technically incredible thing
Yeah, so, you know, I played omega boost on the
my my my demo disc
Like lp
I did an lp of like me and austin playing some playstation demo discs
And one of them had a mega boost on it and like yeah, that was when I saw what was going on
And it was insanely impressive
It was also really weird because it was like clearly not a lot of games had established full 3d
space
Fly controls
So the game was kind of like the camera was rotating around you as the central point as opposed to outside of a sphere
Yeah, it always felt
and and like
Modern games are more about you going anywhere in free space and turning left and right and controlling it
But this kind of had a weird fixed point based system of flying around that was strange
um
But yeah
So so, you know, all of this legacy
Is is is why i'm i'm i'm very excited
For the possibility that this squadron game might be fucking sick man. I hope they learned their lesson with battlefront
Because that would be great if this game was great, you know, like hope so too. Is this this isn't vr only though, right? Like you could just
I didn't see vr only. I didn't see vr only. I saw vr mentioned
But like
It's just when I see star wars
ea
And x-wings and dog. You know what? I mean like the first place as you go is like they they did a demo for this already
It was successful
built
build off of that
And if it's not that then this is the botch
This is the botch of the modern of the modern star wars fucking franchise outside games
You know like because you had something working and you didn't do it for whatever reason
Oh about ea. This is a bit off but uh heads up to everybody who uh noticed that
All ea games are back on steam all of a sudden. I don't know if you notice that walls
I didn't
But they require origin to run
Of course, so you get into that situation where you load it through steam and then it loads uh probably out of date version of origin
Of course, so if if you want to buy those games
It's just fucking at least get them through origin. I guess because it sucks ass
On a similar note if you happen to have the epic game star epic game store installed
Um, you can go get a bunch of free samurai showdown games
Yeah, and on a similar note to that
Uh, don't buy anything today because the steam sails tomorrow
Or today if you're listening to this on tuesday june 16th
Which is which
Which is sales on tuesday june 16th of 2020. Okay. All right there. So don't buy anything
If you're monday june 15
It's next week. Ah shit
We'll just wait be patient
Uh the instant correction is is beautiful. Oh, whatever. It's useful. It is windjammer's pc demo coming out this week
If you want to try out windjammer's 2
um
Speaking of tuesday tomorrow tuesday the the 16th windjammer's 2 is gonna
Uh have a have a steam demo dropping
And it's only going to be around for
um
What like six days so
um
You've got
You've got six days to check that out
um
Windjammer's 2 was pretty dope when I touched it, but I don't know what else is gonna happen
But it seems like this is the good side of dot emu. You know dot emu has two sides
That's a little bit of it's it's
Dot emu and mr. Hyde a little bit
Dot emu and dot emu
This is this is this is the gut so the good side once about emulation the others a bird that'll kick your guts out
Yep, big old dumb brown bird
Hey, if you're listening to this live, I don't know if you do you have the uh the itchio thing on here
I was about to bring it up. Yeah, let's do that
So
Let me get the exact details. Did you take a look at it? I own it
Okay, so, uh
On itch.io
There is currently a big old, um bundle
That is
Let me get the exact here we go the bundle for racial justice and equality
Is featured it ends in 11 hours. It's currently
um
a package of
1361 games
More getting excuse me like excuse me
Excuse me 1361 creators. It's actually
1704 games
So you can get 1704 games for five dollars
And then the regularly price is nine thousand three hundred and sixty three dollars save 99 percent, but um
Yes, effectively this is uh
Uh a bundle where all the proceeds go to the NAACP legal defense and educational fund and the community bail fund
It is splitting 50 50 across both of those with a pay what you want model
um, so
You know for supporting uh black lives matter if you'd like to
Uh pick up an obscene amount of video games
Yeah, it's this weird thing where
One way to do it go to the bundle page and it's like
We didn't load these in your library because otherwise your library would be like un unreadable
So you go to the bundle page instead
And it's like okay here download these and then once you've downloaded it you can fucking actually
See them in your library
Now uh full disclosure. I have not heard of just about almost all of these
The vast majority that I've scrolled through our games that I have not recognized
There are some that I definitely do
Already own would not mind
Double dipping on the support. Of course. It's for a great cause
But there's a lot of a lot of stuff in here that you can spend forever just scrolling through
It's it's kind of crazy how much is in this this thing. Um
Yeah
Win win win just like I'm scrolling down this list right now
I'm seeing a shit zillion games. I'm not aware of right
Including kenny game assets
won
20,000 game assets for use in your games
right
Or but it also has uh celeste and knight in the woods
Sitting on here
uh, which
Are games that you may have heard of knight if the consumers is in here that game's crazy
I'm just gonna keep scrolling. Oh minutes in here minutes in there celeste is in there
um
Knight in the woods
Uh
Yep
Stuff stuff stuff
Anyway, yeah, you blow a whole day just scrolling through this shit
Yes, it's definitely for a good cause and it only costs five dollars though. You can kick in a little more if you like
Nuclear throne
But that it ends today
So, uh, yeah, and if you're listening tomorrow then unfortunately it might be too late
And if you don't buy this bundle and it ends today that means when racism is defeated
You didn't help
Gamers it's a in 11 hours racism will be defeated forever. That's right unless
Unless it was already defeated back when obama was elected
No, I meant unless you don't do anything, but I guess I kind of left that pregnant pause to open
A couple saw some folks saying that hey, it was
I'm not reparations and slavery were evened out when obama made it
I was like, oh word
on god
Damn, I didn't get the memo. That's pretty wild
So, you know
that's uh
That's a nice
Even if that was the case would not only apply to like
People in the united states
Well, hey now, let's not like even even if hey, hey, who are we gonna lift a good lift look a good gift horse in the mouth?
We're just gonna poo poo
The generosity that uh, we've been I don't know. I think that I think the phrase look look a gift horse in the mouth has actually gotten like really
Like hilarious in modern times because if somebody gifted me a horse. Yeah
I'm gonna check it out because why you giving me a horse, dude
Kick the tires on it a little bit. Yeah
Yeah
Well, um
You know
Yeah, the best part is when uh those takes that I'm mentioning are like you're like, oh that sounds like some wacky ass
Like take a opinion on twitter and I was like or it came from a senator
So
Hey, yeah, that's how it go well done between our our digital memes and our representatives have grown smaller and smaller every day
We can end racism jk unless
Uh strong
You
Motherfucker
Let's let's leave it at this. Okay, some somebody here
Somebody
modded
The giant fist into monster hunter world
Oh, yeah
Is it uh, is that hammer or what it's uh, what is it? What's the base weapon on this thing?
It's fucking rad is what it is
um
Gun lance it's a gun lance. Oh, okay. So it's an exploding big fist. Yep
That's cool
And they'd actually uh, if you check out the video they added like the um, like the uh, a big pile bunker spike comes out for that attack
You know and then you can and you have like the dual equipped versions where it's like double giant fists
so you basically look like v
From
legal legends. Yeah
so, um
Monster hunter world that's weird. You didn't know that reference last week
I I I know the character. Yes, I've talked about her
Because I'm like, is this the segue into you've been secretly learning about league of legends
No, you made the joke and I was like ha ha. I'm talking about v from dmc5, but I knew who jungling
I knew who you were talking about are you feeding?
Do you you think a giant punch girl with massive fists wasn't blasted my way for the last couple of years?
She was immediately brought up as soon as the hashtag punch girl started
And then again when uh, we talked about potential characters for the fighting game
um
Very aware very aware. Do you prefer mid or adc?
I like getting fed
Top is fed still cracks me up fed as fuck
It's such a fucked up stupid nonsense gamer phrase
uh
Feed feed feed feed feed
so, um
Yes, the uh, uh, uh, that's uh, that's uh, in my opinion
You just you just stamped the uh, the pc version as superior because it got the weapon that capcom was too fucking cowered to make
And like that bullshit poll was so fucking lies to
Oh, it always is dude. It was such a clear case of like look at how many votes this thing has
Listen, man, but like nah, though the big shiny legally binding
Big shiny japanese aesthetics thing that they they went for on their side. Just you know, i'm like, all right. Well, whatever
My the mods got it the mods weren't cowards
The modders fucking did it first mods do a lot of stuff in monster hunter
They're definitely not cowards, but i'm not sure what they are
Um
Let's take some letters
Hey, if you want to send in a letter you can send it into castle super beast mail at gmail.com
That's castle super beast mail at gmail.com
We got one coming in from
Nicholas says dear phil in hercules
Recently had a discussion with a friend of mine about video game mascots
And we can't seem to come to terms on whether Ryu or mega man would be considered the mascot
Character for capcom at this point in time
We even brought up serve bots because of the various cameos their color scheme matching
Have uh with the capcom logo and captain commando for being the og mascot like alex kid
I'm of the opinion that either mega man or the serve bot should be considered the mascot
But I have such a huge bias towards the series. I wanted to ask who do you consider to be cast capcom's mascot character
motherfucker
You just said it yourself. It's captain commando. His name is capcom and until capcom specifies otherwise
That's the mascot. They said it if if they say it's someone else then it's someone else
But until they say it's someone else it's capcom
Yeah, you there's a different a bunch of different ways you can go about this
um
It's captain commando because he's literally a logo man
Or it would be whatever risen evil character is hot right now because that is the franchise that made capcom the most money
But hold on. What's the is the question?
Who do I think is the most popular character that is the poster boy that everyone will recognize that comes from capcom?
Exactly that's a and the mascot is captain commando
His name is capcom
If you're if you want to know who should be the most poster boy pot, that's a different question
Yeah, that's a whole different argument
It has nothing to do with whether mega man
It has nothing to do with whether or not you know who he is if you don't know who he is
That doesn't matter the facts are really bad. They've done a bad job with their mascot
That means they've done a bad job with their mascot doesn't change who the mascot is
That's the end of that
until they make a new mascot
Everyone's like nobody remembers who captain commando is anymore. I guess that's capcom's fault. That's capcom's fault
He's not on the logo. He was
He was he there was logos that had him on it
It's it's it's he's there. It's capcom's fault for doing a bad job of it
But that doesn't mean it's changed because suddenly you don't know done moving on moving on
We got one coming in from
Manual says hey william pat wanted to know what you guys
Thought do you believe demon souls should have an easier casual mode in order for it to be more accessible to more people?
I believe having more options is always a good thing. I find myself
um
Quite the hypocrite when it comes to suggesting demon souls be easier to jump in though
Believing it should stay oppressive as the game always was am I wrong to think that way?
Do you think it would be fine if they added an easier mode to it?
Uh, I'm entertaining otherwise stay cool. Sorry. I thought the email was done
I thought I thought the
Demon souls was super hard and then um, I went back after beating dark souls and dark souls 2 and that game is a joke
That game is actually really easy
um
Compared to it's later games
It's the most obtuse
fucked up
like
Confusing mess
Right. It's a it's a fucking mess and it's so confusing
But it's actually like
Not that tough
Um
So what do you think?
I think adding an easy mode to that game would be ridiculous
I think options are good and I think uh
If it was not a mode and if you did something in the form of like pick up an item and it changes something or whatever the fuck
Yeah, I mean, that's fine. It's like
Use the item to make yourself human and then invade or
Yeah, something something something a little bit more like like directly
For that purpose and the way that like debate and it handles it for example where you equip easy mode as an item, right?
um, but
If they decide to not do that because they want the game to be
A hard game that is just hard period and this is what it is. That's totally okay. It's up to them
It's up to the developers, you know, that's I'm like at the end of the day
Um, if they want the option available, it's because they designed for it and that's fine
And if they don't want it to be there, that's fine too
um
I think this this question actually has a lot more value in something like Sekiro or even the later dark souls
games
Then demon souls because yeah, like I said like demon souls becomes dramatically easier once you actually know how it works
And there is exhaustive documentation and even if they're even if they do change stuff around for the new desk
There will be exhaustive documentation very quickly and that's where most of the game's difficulty actually is
Yeah, I I see like this is a discussion discussion that's been had multiple times and I think um
Ultimately where it kind of lands is like
uh, you know having
gotten into games like, you know, we we go into like character action games and
Talk about how hard they are when it's like that's a self-imposed difficulty, right? Based on the attempt to
Get to s-rank on the mission ranking and to s-rank our combat phases as much as possible
um
I think that if the game
Is using its difficulty as part of like the tone of the story in a way
That is a good reason too for it to stay as hard as it is
That's valid
You know, um, that's what I find it. It's very hard to like this is a kind of question where it's like
Only the people making the game can choose how they feel about this
And that's why it's a bit of a hard thing like it like as far as like what
It matters to me. It's like I can ignore an option
I can ignore. I've never used an item in wonderful 101. I don't know what they look like
I don't know what it even does as soon as you select it, right?
It's it's if you ever played a game that you had those self-imposed rules
And then you'll accidentally use one and you get like anxious
Super what's happening so confused, dude
The missiles you get these missiles that launch in in 101 that like hit
Enemies in the middle of the fight and you're like what the fuck just happened
It's the most fucking random ass shit and it's so wild. You're like, uh, what like totally totally, you know
And so I as someone who's capable of doing that and I don't mind, you know
When something exists that's not for me in a game. I can just ignore what I don't want
Um, I don't it doesn't bug me whether it's there or not
Like I don't get upset as at its presence
Because I can simply ignore it. So
You know, it just comes down to it's like well now if the director of the game decides that like
They want this to make a statement. They want the game the game's difficulty to be part of what's going on here
I think that should not garner flak is is how I'm coming at it
Um, but I don't think options are bad
I feel like
A crazy person because I just end up saying it over and over like they've talked about how summoning
Multiplayer help is the game's easy mode true true true
Life is easier with friends to help you true
That's that's you're totally right
um summoning as much as you need to every time
Is a fucking amazing easy mode because some people will come in and do the level for you
That's yeah
Um
Well, obviously it's up to the the developer
No one is going to break into the studio and code in an easy mode. It's a nothing statement
Are you are you willfully choosing to like frame it in a in a way that
Misses what I'm trying to say here
Like are you willfully deliberately trying to do that because it sounds like it
I said it sounds like it. It was me. I wrote that. Okay. Well
again
Again
I can ignore what I don't care about
I think options are good at the same time
I don't think if they choose to ignore it
You should write an article about how this game is behind the times and how they need to get with it
And how it's stupid that we're stuck in a world where
Games are still fucking
Being gatekeepers about difficulty. I get it. I totally get it
you know, um
and I mean
You know, that's and that that's that's an end that also
Please make sure that you understand that that's an entirely different discussion from accessibility for example
and uh making sure that the game has enough options and control settings that you can
Make it work for people that have different accessibility needs, but um, yeah
I just that's the that's the way I'm looking at it. Like you can use
the statement
Of the game's difficulty to say something about your design
That is a that is a valid language to communicate a message to the player with
I'm not going to stand here and be like and thus it always must be that way
And games should just be hard because that's not genuinely how I feel
How about the concept of nuance? You know, sometimes in life things can be nuanced. It's quite fascinating
It's interesting how things don't always turn out to be black and white
Because I would like to your opinion. I don't know if we've talked about this specifically, but I've liked your opinion on
Uh anti nuance in the nuanced version of this. Let's say you have a game that has multiple difficulty modes or say
Uh a difficulty item like you described like the chicken helmet. Yeah, and uh, what if the easier difficulty is called
Uh poo poo pee pee bitch boy mode go for it
Yeah, okay. That's what I thought because I'm here with that. Yeah, you will be
Way stronger. Uh, you will one shot enemies that are like fucking tanks
Uh, but your character will fart themselves the whole way through the game
Uh, cuz like
I think it's really funny when you have games that have multiple difficulties, uh and doom and uh,
Wolfenstein in particular Wolfenstein's got it the worst where in Wolfenstein. It's like i'm a little baby
And it's like bj with like a bonnet and like a sucker in his mouth
Totally and it's like even though shaming you
I know there are people who are playing those games on harder difficulties and having a miserable time
It is literally because they cannot handle
Like the game calling them a little baby. Mm-hmm
And that argument
When it comes up is extra hilarious
Because it's like why does the game have to call me a little bitch?
And like the toxic in me
I I don't like can't help but respond with will will stop being a little bitch then
Okay, I do I don't think it's necessary. I don't you don't need to do that
Um
You you you you know you genuinely and genuinely don't need to do that
Uh, but as I said the difficulty of the game is a valid
Language for communicating. Okay your message. Okay. Okay. What if okay? I got it. I got it
Demon souls has an easy mode. It is like 50 reduction in stats across the board or increase whichever would help you, right? Yeah, but
but when you um
When you
Sign up went like for the eula. Mm-hmm. There's an extra little check mark
In the in the easy mode prompt and it says like I
Fully admit that I have a tiny wiener
And it then has to post that to twitter
Before it lets you unlock the easy mode
You got a nice little uh, yeah
Yep, you start the game up and the some of the lines of dialogue are changed so that like, you know, one of the people you talk to just like
It smells like bitch
What if your girl doesn't say a big vagina? There you go. Yeah
um
Because because the the energy that i'm feeling and I know you know this
Is that weird human giant skit with a zezan sorry?
Where he tries to go rent some skate uh some some rollerblades
And uh one of the questions is have you told your parents you're gay yet? Right
And he's like what no
And he's like well no no rollerblades for you, right?
And then he's got to go talk to his parents and it's a whole thing
So the um it's a fucking weird skit
the the yeah, no you get to hit um
Just just make sure that everybody knows you know put it all over the uh
Put it all over the game. You have uh, what was the the the joke a game journalist mode was the thing people were running with for a while there
Yeah, I mean that's that's not going away
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That's that one's not going away because it's it's getting funnier every every year
See what it comes down to is um
The people on both ends of the spectrum the ones who are the fucking edge lords is going on about the difficulty
As the only thing that's valid that needs to exist in every other game
And the people that are crying babies that are upset about the fact that they can't skip past any challenge they encounter
Are both insufferable pieces of shit who I want to see upset
The funniest thing is so this is what you have to understand about the way I look at this situation
The the funniest thing is to me is that despite the fact
That I am adamant in that I actually love
That those games don't have difficulty modes and would lament their inclusion
I find the hardcore
Get good you fucking difficulty for difficulty's sake
It's element of the dark souls community to be way more infuriating overall
Because those people did not exist when demon souls came out
They only started to show up
When when they get when the game was done to die and then the new stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so insufferable
So annoying absolutely garbage absolutely garbage the worst did you beat the boss using a good weapon?
Oh do it over
Fuck go fuck yourself. Yeah, I remember when people were figured out that you could shoot man-eaters through the fog wall with the arrow
in in fucking
Three two in demon souls and everybody was like that's the greatest
You fucking killed that boss. No damage
Holy shit. Just shoot him through the door
I've sat next to punch mom and watched her struggle in things that you know
We're on basic settings and and like kind of try to
Piece it out and be like, okay. No, this is just not working. It's as like it's like we need to
Change the mode. We need to switch it up, you know, and and I and I've seen
uh, like
difficulty down switches
Result in like okay now she can actually enjoy this and this makes sense
and I've also sat and like had seen like her struggle with stuff and I've been like, okay
Let's try to figure out how to how to beat the size is, you know
And like kind of learn how to get a little bit further and um, it doesn't always work out
But in some cases when it does it's like, oh shit. Yeah, cool. You did it, you know
But here's the question right when she was having trouble
Did you get up onto the couch?
And start dancing around and pissing all over the room and going. Why can't you beat it, bitch, baby?
Why can't you beat it, bitch? Yeah, no. No, I didn't did that happen. No, I didn't drop sack
Over her over her fricking brow and be like, ha
Ha, bitch, baby, bitch
Bitch, baby, bitch. Now that can't be fun
That that is fun
Getting toxic, but still come on. Yeah, that's some class people
So so most importantly if we take this this nice little sliding scale
And we grab the group of people that hang out at both ends of it
They can fucking go we can turn this from a walk-off stage into a final destination
You know, we can get rid of them. Um, that's that's that's the the the most important part
We've got one coming in from tom
Hey, man, what's up?
Tom says
Uh, hey crazy talk and bring me to life
Mainly a question to pat as he partakes in games that tend to have grinding
What I do and how do you decide whether grinding is spending your time whether it's worth it or not
Is it enjoying the game? Is it purely based on reward content or does it have to be the enjoyable grind action in and of itself?
Does it have to have ways to shorten optimized time spent speaking for myself?
I enjoy the grinding activity when rewards are obtainable beyond just hoping rng will be nice to me
An example is in monster hunter world. I like grinding for armor upgrades and layered equipment, but I hate grinding for decorations
Keep doing you. Thank you. I mean, there's a there's a really complicated answer to this and it's the the more attainable the goal is and the more, um
enjoyable the process is and the uh
More consistent the progression is the more likely I am to do it, right if I'm just hitting a fucking slot machine
Go to hell
Um, I I I did deco grinding for a while and that's a slot machine
And then I just said fuck it and just cheated all the decos I wanted into my game
Fuck it
Terrible, but I never did that with armor because armor has a very strict
Like like path and it is technically rng, but it's a lot fairer
um
For something that is miserable to do. I will really only grind it if the benefit is
Something that I think will make the game more fun to play
So, uh
Like grinding out a new weapon type and something you know just or uh
Destiny will give you like unique guns that will have cool gimmicks and stuff like that. Um
Uh, this does not include grinding that
Is playing the game like just playing the game, you know, like
Uh, dead by daylight for example has a leveling system where you get perks for your characters
uh using blood points you get for matches and
I hit the cap, uh
Over the weekend and I've hit the cap multiple times
And the reason why you hit the cap is so that when the new character which is pyramid head comes out tomorrow
Just bam, just dump a million blood points into them
Right, uh
I mean you get that just by playing matches
Right, you do you're not even doing anything specific. You're just you're just playing matches and getting points. You're just not spending them
Um, you know, um, I think it's pretty known at this point
But like I like the internal experience meter more than the external experience meter. So, uh, I
Will have fun
quote unquote grinding
Against one enemy that I cannot beat until I can
versus grinding over
thousands of enemies that I can beat and just
You know constantly do so to achieve uh something else like numerically
um, I like the repetition when I know that
I can try something a little bit different to see if it makes it a little bit better in my in my my style of fit to see if I can improve
So, um
the improvement
Angle is what allows me to have fun with the repetition
And if the improvement angle is removed and it's simply a numerical equation
Uh, I can do that but
Like it would like it would be it would be a lie to say like I've never done that
That's just not true
But I do it to the I do it as long as
I'm interested and the moment it stops being worth it or interesting to me. I immediately change tasks
so when I've played rpgs
um
When I've played rpgs, I've
Done some shit where I'd have to go like, you know
Make sure you get to this level in order to get disability or go grind out this side quest or whatever the fuck, right?
I I I did um, I played whack-a-box. You know, I got all the whack-a-box things. I you know, like uh,
I'll go do that as long as like I'm like, okay
I can see the challenge here and I can try to overcome it
Uh, but like when I'm doing this the difference is just like I am
My interest is a thread and the moment the thread breaks if it's just repeating the same activity with success
Constantly being granted to me. I will walk away as soon as I'm like, not fuck this. I'm done
You know versus uh, if there's a challenge that I'm trying to overcome in which case it's a lot more, um
a lot more fun
but uh, so one of the more interesting things is there is a
um
There is a current controversy in destiny which is
Like by the way, I played destiny a lot over the past year. Dude that game is falling apart
but uh, there's a current controversy because um
They there is an activity called a forge which is a three-man activity takes about 10 minutes
And you have automatic respawn. There's no like wiping on it
Okay, like if you die you just respawn and the worst thing that can happen is that you, um
Uh, you just lose and what happens when you lose
Is that it loads you back into the same instance
Okay, and when the timer runs out
Um, and that game has an item level and what you can do
Is you can uh lower your item level below
The minimum so the minimum item level is 750
But they're uh rare like halloween items that are zero
So you can lower your power level to like 680 which is lower than the game could possibly go
Okay, um, and what that does is that puts you in a matchmaking only
With people who have also intentionally fucked up their item level
And the reason why you would do this
Is you load in with two other people who are just gonna afk
For literal days at a time
Because the completion of a forge even when completely failed still gives you drop chances
Oh wow
And wow
And people are using this to fucking farm out
Just absurd amounts of a new currency they just put into the game
That is a spectacular example of failed design
Yeah, um spectacular
This activity is pretty fun
But the thing is is like it is a fucked up thing in destiny. This keeps happening over and over and over
There was a loot cave in destiny one. There was a different afk forge farming thing
uh last year
And it is this thing of like nothing is more rewarding
In terms of like actual like in-game rewards in destiny
Then afk for thousands of hours in an activity that you don't intend to play and that is fucked
That is fucked
When breaking the system is more fun for some people than actually
Every time this happens they go well shit. I guess we should probably increase the rewards because Jesus christ
Playing the game is so much less rewarding than not playing the game
Hanging out in one location doing one stupid thing over and over. That's I did that for uh something else
Uh a while back. I had the I had destiny 2 running in a fucking
windowed tab
For like 300 hours
Just grinding forge materials like uh six months ago or whatever is there a point when you get when you when you get
What you want and then you go and have fun
Oh, yeah
Does it come after that?
Yes, it sensibly does. Okay
I I could talk
for a long time
But about the stuff that I don't like in destiny now destiny is the most frustrating game
I have ever played because it it go it is not a seven
It is a series of
Nines and twos back to back over and over
Okay, um, here's the thing. Uh, you said like there's a point where you'd get what you're looking for and then you
It's ostensibly go and have fun
But is it not always yet?
Is it is it not always more rewarding to stay in that location and do that activity?
No, because uh, it doesn't give you everything. It only gives you
Certain types of rewards. Okay. So once you complete the table, then you're done
Yeah, the main thing is people do it for power level like just increased item level
Okay, but it but it's not an and it's on an act. It's not an uh experience farm. For example
No, it is it is literally an experience farm. It's not for different items. It's for experience
Oh
So then there would be no point to like going anywhere else
Yeah, pretty much. Why would you do anything other than this which is the fastest and the easiest?
Yeah, okay, got it right. So it's as bad as it sounds great. Okay. Yep. It totally is cool
So
Yes, that is that is kryptonite
That is fucking kryptonite
Hold on a second
I have I have somebody who talks quite often. Hey, valriette
Now I never played it. You did last wish once a year after it came out and quit the game for over two years
How many hours on destiny do I have for this to count? Hold on. Where is it?
I know I have
Oh, yeah, 473 hours. I never played destiny 2 go fuck yourself
I hate that critique
You haven't played enough of a game to criticize it when you've got hundreds of hours into it
I absolutely hate that
You know, it it really is best to just like not even
Not even engage but like man, but I know valriette. I see that dude all the time. Yeah
Well, all I can say is we're only human and and to those who are I'm not to those who are yes
You are currently I'm part toilet transitioning into a toilet bowl of partially indeed
um
We've seen the artwork of it
but the idea
That the person who is currently mid type of like man, I hate when they talk to
The they call out these things or whatever and it's like you I get it. You're you're not wrong
You're not wrong, but there's just definitely these moments of like wait, what?
You like it's hard to explain if you're not in the chair
Where you like suddenly something you said comes back super misunderstood and you're like
Can I just take five seconds to explain what the fuck that's what's that about?
It's really really hard to not want to address that when it pops up and I so it's just like it's it's just
You know, I get it. I do get it. But that that this is the weird what the what are you talking about? You know
But you're not wrong. You're not wrong
You know
Um, some people love the call outs. Some people don't it is what it is
Hey, I like to call out
Um
I think we got
Okay, the 300 hours and forge was an exaggeration by the way, it was like one day calm down everybody
No, if you want to actually talk like the biggest problem a game like destiny and warframe has
Is they have their little seasonal things?
And those seasonal things include cosmetic elements and in some cases certain weapons that you can't get once the season ends
And now that I've missed some of them the desire to go back will always be gone
Yeah, because yeah, oh, I'll never I'll never be able to get that that gun or I'll never be able to get that cosmetic well
Fuck into the trash goes the entire desire. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. I I because they're collection games
Exactly. Exactly. The idea is that they use the season on a collection game to
Like really incentivize the use of the season. But if you ever fall off
Then uh-oh
Hey, dude, Gengar's gone forever
You had
Season to get in joke, but it's Gengar in sort of
You had a period of time to go catch a Gengar or evolve it
And now that's gone
Uh, that pokemon is gone your deck says you saw it though
Because you saw other people that had a Gengar, but you will never catch a Gengar. Oh, oh, yeah
Cat cat cat gotta catch them all
No change that we're not saying that anymore. Do you feel like pokemon didn't just set up
Gotta catch them all for them
But like the attitude associated with getting all 151 kind of set a tone for like
Every collectible game ever
It did but then I think that if they if they could look into the future they would have not used it
They wouldn't have done that they would have went another way with it because the fact that they stopped saying that
Very clearly illustrates that they're like, oh boy. Like that is
Coming back to bite us in the ass when we make it impossible for you to catch them all
Because I mean this fucked up place, right?
And I I don't mean to keep belaboring the point where but like I look at destiny
And I really love to play destiny and have had a shit ton of fun playing destiny
And I am the last season they did was miserable and awful. It was terrible
And now I'm like, well, I can never go back because there's stuff all I've missed
and
That's that
Probably catch a little
Probably catch a little
pokemon
You can kind of get some of the ones you saw on tv probably catch some of the coolest ones
Probably catch a little pokemon. Yeah
It looked dude like if destiny wants to set itself up to basically
You know just not let you fucking get the things they're showing you that are in the game after a certain point of time
Well, you know the the the fomo
Has the reverse edge of it
The reverse the reverse edge of fomo is like
like
I don't care anymore
You know
Well, it was just a cosmetic it was like yeah
It was a cool cosmetic that I would have had to work my ass off for a whole season that sucked ass in an event that was terrible
like when you try to um
When you try to to use fomo on people too aggressively as a
like
Get back in here to get your reward tool
Uh, do not be surprised when dude the response the bounce back off for that is
completely mentally checking out of the game
Well, can I can I grab you for 10 more minutes on destiny to get your non
mmo
ask like
playing guy brain on this sure because
This game is going to do the weirdest shit
For an mmo loot game
They have complained often about how the game is too big, right? It's they it keeps getting bugger
Right, so what they're gonna do for their new expansion
Is they are going to vault?
planets and activities
Permanently
No, they're gonna go into the disney vault and come out once a year
So that you can you know, maybe get those rewards and when they come back
Maybe they'll be rotated in this year. Menagerie will come back and it'll be updated
And this is being combined
with
Sunsetting of weapons where if you get a really good gun with perfect perks
It will only last like six months to 18 months before you won't be able to upgrade it and it will
Lose its viability and power
Even if it's your favorite gun reverse dlc
So we're gonna take it out of the game occasionally the cynicism for this is that
I'll start destiny 2 soon and I won't be able to do the original destiny 2 campaign because the planets won't be there
And they'll bring back mercury or you know, whatever planet it is and the guns that are mercury
They're now new and we've re-rolled them
so that we can
So you can re-grind actual identical copies of your existing guns
That are now stronger
Is it like
There is a huge argument in that community over
Like people are like you need to sunset weapons because otherwise you're gonna have everything in the game
And there won't be anything left to grind compared to people like me that are like I already grinded for it
Fuck off. Don't take it away from me
Oh if you have the reward it it gets removed
No, it's more complicated than that because of course it is so the game everything's item level
Which is just the power level of any individual item, right?
Every season the top power level goes up. Yeah, right?
So this season it's 900 three months from now will be 9 20 etc
And that affects all of your stats
right
after one year
The your favorite gun that you got on january 1st 2020 on january 1st 2021
You will no longer be able to upgrade it to the new top power level
So it will always be 20 or 50 or whatever weaker than anything new that you get or anything that is six months old
Which means it will no longer be viable for hard content
Okay, so it basically you you won't be able to make it strong enough to keep up with where the game's going
And it will devalue over time
Right, that's what they mean by weapon sunsetting. They're not taking them away. They're just slowly walking away
And do things that get included in the game always get stronger so that you like like basically
Is the it's it's can you not keep using your really good?
Ability as you've played the rest of the game that like you know what I mean
Like are enemies suddenly getting way stronger with each update that make it not viable
So destiny does power weird your item level, which is your power level or whatever
It's just the the combination of the levels of all the items you're currently carrying
Right enemies have a specific power level, right?
So an enemy will have like a power level of a thousand, right?
If you are power level a thousand you will be doing the intended damage to them
Right, like they would balance it however you would in a halo game or whatever the fuck, right?
If you're 950 they will have a statistical advantage over you of about 50 points
right
Which means that if your favorite gun
is two years old
And it is a fantastic meta weapon with the best perks and that you love the way it fires
That means if you want to continue to use it
That 950 gun in a 1000
Armor loadout will actually put you at power level 980, which will make you way
Way weaker in power level 1000 content
And that will only get worse over time
Only in that content
Yeah, only in the tough stuff, which is uh, they're pv the high end pvp or raids or stuff like that
Okay pause. Here's where I don't understand enough about the genre. Uh, will you ever
Have to fight anything that is weaker than that current level enemy
Totally you will have to go back and fight older things
Yeah, there's there's tons of shit all over the place that have different power levels
Yes, okay
So it's not like everything you play and fight from this point forward will be 1000
No, it just means that
Anything new or anything hard
This thing will not be worthwhile now people compare it to mmo's because in mmo's you have a gear treadmill, right?
People are even saying like ff 14 does that in every raid patch where your guns are just numerically stronger, right?
The problem with destiny's design is that in bottle fancy 14 in ever quest in ff 11 in world of warcraft
Your sword is a stick with stats on it
Mm-hmm
It doesn't matter what it like it has a look, right?
But it's just it's just stats. It's just a big goal
You know stat juice. It's a number stick. Yeah, right?
It's a number stick. It doesn't matter
In destiny the guns are like this is a sniper rifle that has a weird gimmick
Or this is a machine gun that reloads when you kill that automatically reloads when you kill somebody
They have functional gameplay changes
Okay, so people get really attached to their specific guns. Okay
Because when I upgrade my sword in ff 14, my character doesn't play any differently
but when you tell me
that my
You know god rolled perfect paradox shotgun is no longer viable for high-end content
It's like that's my favorite shotgun in the game and there aren't many shotguns that feel anything like it
So that's just gone. Yeah, okay. I get you that that essentially is gone when I want to go to a raid
So that sucks. Yeah, that's terrible and is the idea of of of vaulting planets supposed to be that like
We don't intimidate people by spoiling them for choice when they're new players
No, it's that they have talked a lot where they've they've had something where like everything in the game gives good rewards
And then people grind out to power cap too quickly and then they make it so only the newest hardest stuff has rewards and
then
Most of the game's content is dead because 80 of the game's locations don't give you any good rewards
So their solution is to give everything decent rewards and remove a third of the game
So that
it's oh my god, it's
Yeah, that is um
And that is and that is the final decision after
Like weeks and weeks and weeks of board meetings
About what the best way to address this would be clearly arguing
About the way the shit works for years
Um now the the game is the game is the it has been developed in the weirdest way possible that I've ever seen
In that like it was a non mmo that slowly became an mmo under activation and then under bungee
and then they tried a seasonal model and then
Six months into the seasonal model got the fucking
Feedback that yo this sucks
Um the other feedback hit really hard during their worst season
I'm gonna go ahead and assume too that like the reason why you can't just uh
Scale upwards to create the difficulty you're looking for us because
There is an intended
Uh amount of let's say like if at the strongest cat at when a weapon is at cap
If the strongest type of enemy you're gonna fight takes x number of bullets to fucking kill
They don't want that to just be like well now you fight it for an hour instead of half an hour
Yeah, so they don't want the fights to become nothing
You're completely right. So the the thing is is that like people are like well
Why don't you just make all the weapons stronger?
Yeah, and it's because eventually that creates a situation in which you have a machine gun that's blowing away bosses and enemies
Enemies mean nothing. Yeah 100 and they actually had a period in the game
Where they just said fuck it. Let's make everybody super powered and uh, they
Realized they couldn't figure out how to design raid encounters anymore because players were unkillable
Like there were a combination of abilities you could use
Uh where like you would stand in a in a puddle and it would heal you constantly and improve your damage
And if you killed any enemy the puddle would refresh
And all sorts of stupid shit and they were like, oh, we can't kill players
We can't figure it out and that caused the situation in which they made bosses that could kill those players
But then would trounce the shit out of everybody who wasn't using that busted shit. Right, right
Do mmo's or schluders ever?
ever
Load enemies like uh scaled
Oh, yeah, they're all scale
One of the weirdest things about destiny is that you can only become like 20 power above something
So stuff never really gets any easier. It can only be harder
But if you're rolling with a group of people then it's scaling to your highest, right?
Yeah, yeah, okay
Oh, no actually scaling individual
Oh, okay, so you get in these weird situations where I can kill an enemy in one shot
And it's and it's still and so things are scaling individually
Oh man, that's a mess
It dude the game is like I feel like they need to do like a whole
Yeah, so what's bothering me all start over what's bothering me is that like I get what you're describing
And it sounds terrible, but I also can't simultaneously think of a better way to do it
Like it's a it's a they have they have created a very weird
very weird genre
Where it's an mmo shooter and it's pretty much the only one
And they have run into constant design problems and the weirdest thing by far
Is that destiny one had item sunsetting, right?
Like when it started
And the biggest change they made to that game were like we hear you
We'll never sunset weapons again. You guys want to keep your weapons
And then destiny two came out and I was like you'll keep your weapons forever guys. Don't worry
Okay, we're gonna have to sunset
Yeah, okay, and it's like been like for people that actually played destiny one during that period
Like they are losing their minds because it's like they are just full reversing
Like a change for the opposite reasons
I mean, maybe maybe based on maybe the 10-year game is not the the ideal goal
Maybe that being said I still like I'm downloading it right now. Yeah
Yeah
Like I will I will go and find a destiny nerd after this podcast and ask them to explain to me what I missed
Like, you know, when when they talk it up and say, hey, this is a decade-long experience
Then we it's like and you if you if you're disappointed when it's not that then so be it but you know what probably
Uh, uh allows this to be avoided destiny three
like
Yeah
Jesus man
So they were planning on destiny three and then they stopped because they were like no
We'll just continue iterating on destiny two and everyone's like maybe you should have well not everyone
I'm like maybe you should have
Destiny two is the game that got me to find out what glass door was
Are you familiar with glass door? No
It's a it's a review site for businesses
where people
After you leave a business you can write a review on what it was like to work there
And
Uh, it's the reason why I found out about that site because people found that a ton of people
Worked at bungee and then quit and then wrote reviews of them describing just how fucked up their development pipeline is
Huh
Anyway, sorry to rant and rave about that. It's just like no
That sounds that sounds like a wild issue. Um, and it sounds like a issue that like
I would imagine a lot of massive multiplayer games
probably like
like balancing against people's like
Balancing in such a way that you satisfy
the occasional toe dabbler
and the absolute
min
You know of of of like i'm going to get
Everything done this weekend the first weekend that it's out and I will be the best and strongest
And you will not hold me back instantly
And it's like, oh, well that we planned for this to last a lot longer than that
But you didn't make it happen. Why'd you do that?
It's like well because people don't want to wait that long. They just want to do it
you know it's uh
And in a model like this where it's updating they have a time limit to hit cap
Because then cap's gonna rise again
Um, I think the funniest thing is that like f of 14 in its current state when it came out
One of the big criticisms is that the game is almost laughably traditional
You have tanks and dps and healers and that is your role. So you have four man parties eight man parties 24 man part, etc
Right
And when they interviewed the dev staff behind it, they're like, why did you make such a traditional mmo?
And it's because well, we had know how to make mmo's work
And if we put weird shit in we were afraid we were going to fuck it up again
We know how to make this stuff work
So we went and played it safe and f of 14 is really really safe
But it works
Boy the core
Shoot bang loop of destiny must be fucking crack
It's really good
After all this good that that's why
When I say part seven the perfect paradox being retired. I actually really care because I love that shotgun
Because yeah, like what the fuck is wrong with destiny two part eight, uh right now is like still just like
What's good here?
And it's like everything that you've not mentioned I suppose but dude, it's hilarious
They had like an event where like a fucking spaceship crashed into the earth and this huge explosion
They were calling it like a fortnight style event
Oh, yeah, it was an
And it was an hour and a half really slow fireball
I read about I read about the description of like you can see it in the sky. Yeah, I read it
I read it
There was a meteor or something and then like half an hour later
Space station and then half an hour later it hit something and then the thing started exploding for another 20 minutes
It was just like oh, this sounds fucking garbage down on on the ground
It blew
So there was a balcony that you could watch it from when it hit down the shockwave like knocked you back about five feet
sure
And then like the the load the area loaded in in a different way
So there'd be like a like a like a
You know like a beam through like a wall or something. Yeah, and it's just like the most flaccid fart ever
It's so embarrassing
But I mean just this idea where you're like, okay, listen, we want to have a live in-game event
And it's gotta be cool. But also
What if people miss it though? It's like, no, we've got to give them a chance
also
Like you're a Gundam fan. Yeah. Yeah. So this will make perfect sense
The almighty which is the space station that hits the earth is approximately the size of a colony in Gundam
Oh, wonderful. So we're sitting in Australia
So we're we're in we're in the last city and the the touchdown is visibly on the horizon
And the the end result is a couple pieces of debris and like a crater
Just a nice peaceful little
Yeah, like 30 of the earth should have lived on yeah the planet cracks
The planet fucking cracks when you drop a colony
So like it's a space game and they don't have any sense of like meteoric scale. It's ridiculous
Anyway, this is a log podcast. Yeah, no doomsday comets are like infinitely smaller
Then uh, yeah a kilometer wide comet would be the end of you and me and everyone
Um
Hey doom, you know when they shoot the planet. Yeah shoot mars. Yeah
It's astonishing that the whole planet doesn't just completely fly apart considering like how much the damage is
Yeah, and you know, there's another one, but it was a long question. So we'll save it for next time
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