Castle Super Beast - CSB 085: Cade Altair Will Return

Episode Date: September 15, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm okay. I'm okay. I'm good. That's good. Yeah I'm feeling great. It got nine hours to sleep because we've tricked the dog into sleeping till noon I'm gonna hot out the gate let everybody know that this Wednesday is the RTX panel It's gonna be at 4 p.m. Eastern and it's gonna be on Roosterteeth, so we're gonna be doing that special event on Wednesday Mmm, that's the most important thing happening on Wednesday It's like a double podcast week. It's like a double podcast week and we will be doing You know Q&A and taking some questions and all kinds of all kinds of fun stuff
Starting point is 00:00:54 So yeah, totally not watching the Sony thing on our phones Simultaneously at the same time while taking questions. Absolutely. That's unprofessional as fuck. That's rude as shit. Who else would who would dare? we're gonna totally be doing the RTX panel and Never mind the background noise or the events happening outside of that. Don't worry about it Okay, good, so that'll be at 4 p.m. On Roosterteeth's website and that's Eastern by the way Eastern Eastern time and we'll be We'll be you know tweeting out more details about it, but yeah Nothing else to worry about going on at that time all good
Starting point is 00:01:37 Don't worry about it Can you can you hear your TV at the same time as what we do here oh I don't I don't need to hear my TV. So what I do What I do when I when I secretly watch an event while I'm doing this is I pop this shit open and then on the others with the big monitor because I got chat here And I got the camera there so everybody thinks I'm paying attention to them and then at the corner of my eye I'm like I look over and that's muted and then I got that chat up there and then in between the poggers People will repeat a number or like a price. I'm glad to see that. I'll be a system in place
Starting point is 00:02:19 Hey poggers is that that that Chuck E cheese? It is that Chuck E cheese me. Yes, that's right. We all know the Chuck E cheese invented the poggers Just checking just checking. Mm-hmm. I mean Damn, they're turning on the fun aren't they? Wally in the past week in The literal one week period since we last spoke The streaming slash YouTube game has become
Starting point is 00:02:50 Dramatically more competitive. Hmm is we not only have a new suite of English speaking anime women one of which is a rapper But we also have restaurant mascots getting in on this shit. Yep Yep, I Came prepared. I haven't busted out the big guns yet But let it be known that the arsenal is there is ready and I just need to hit the Gundam launch button What are you waiting for I Am I am very Occupied with time-consuming projects. I hate saying that all the time, but it really is what it is
Starting point is 00:03:31 It's it becomes more annoying the more weeks you say it. I know it's like just tell us what the thing is. It's a gigantic Video series project that takes infinite amounts of time and research to do and double-check and triple-check and put together So I can't possibly just throw it out there Like it's it's more than a month. It's more than two months. You know a massive project You know it instead of that what you should do You should put up a video. That's 25 minutes of you like slapping your belly and going Yes, well that's possible to do that that's possible too, but you know
Starting point is 00:04:20 Um Yeah, like it's this is the reason why you have to realize that of course like once you get into the the Not that once you get into the more video essay game like a bunch of people we were friends with do you kind of have a Much more scarce Release schedule because it takes forever to make these fucking things. Yeah, that's why so many of them will go to patreon because it's like Dude, yeah, I mean fucking views what you know And but like the thing is is that like you'll get a massive like Clems will drop an amazing video It'll fucking do
Starting point is 00:04:59 Well, and then it's gonna take a while because that that thing was highly edited. It was a it's the difference between a film Release versus like our fucking daily soap operas You know tell a novellas. Yeah, we're shooting on camcorders. We're doing they're out there making films We're shooting fucking Spicy Spicy plots with our abuela involved in the background and And and and you know X is returning from the dead on shitty fucking cameras while they're filming films
Starting point is 00:05:38 So I remember when I when I spoke to Clems originally before he had done any streaming and then right after he had done streaming I mean because he does he does both right? He's a he's a really good example He does the video essay, but then he'll be like, oh Right The streaming is like a pressure release valve of oh my god, I could just sit down and Do something and it's it's fucking done Mm-hmm. I hit the button. It's over. Oh wow
Starting point is 00:06:12 But I like I don't even know how to make things over more than a day. I like I like mixing it up I like doing different things every once in a while and I keep it spicy and part of that is every once in a while getting into a like Lengthy highly edited type of video, but I obviously haven't done a ton of those But but it's something that I have an interest in for sure But the time consuming aspect of it is definitely the least favorite Uh, you know part, but yeah, I have I have fucking
Starting point is 00:06:46 I have I have Armors waiting to deploy, you know, and we just uh Anyways once it drops and people you know are seeing the thing it feels good. So it's worth it I gotta say woolly. I can't think of a better analogy for the difference between you and I as you discuss the long-term project you are making I can't sit still enough that I am now running my fidget spinner Yeah, which I have now literally Because I need something to do
Starting point is 00:07:17 In this these two seconds that I'm not talking Yeah well, um As you did say the landscape has changed very drastically and You know Chuck E cheese getting in the game is Uh again quite timely because I think the weirdest thing is that it's a hand puppet I mean they had a couple of options of how to play it um
Starting point is 00:07:46 Again, I feel like uh Uh The the timing couldn't couldn't be better because from my understanding they're currently Chuck E cheese is currently in the middle of filing for chapter 11 Uh, oh, yeah as far as I understand that is what's happening right now. So that directly translates to Get together with some people put some masks on and film a commercial that says hey kids COVID is over come on back to Chuck E cheese You know what cures pizza
Starting point is 00:08:18 Get on out here. It put it all over the pizza and then bring it back to everyone you love You know what they really should do. Mm-hmm come to Chuck E cheese the inspiration between behind the hit video game five nights at freddy's There you go They should do that Come see the animatronic terror That inspired that robot whose name I don't I don't know of I mean look I don't know like the place is about to shut down and
Starting point is 00:08:49 uh, they're also advocating for kids to come and spread disease so Uh, we are let's be real all those types of all those types of places We're already where kids would go to spread disease. Yeah, but now they're telling they're now they're putting commercials out to advertise it It's great shoutouts to the edit where someone just with a we're Chuck E hits the the light switch for fun and then a nuke just goes off
Starting point is 00:09:20 What what a perfect mascot for such a place like a rat Yeah, cheese might as well be a plague rat what method. Yeah, what better uh conduit delivery system Of the illnesses Then the rat itself I feel bad. It's not a mouse, right? It's a rat the rats, right? Yeah, it's a rat. It's a rat I feel bad for rats because it wasn't even rats. It was the fleas, but fleas aren't big enough to see from far away And you just go, ah, it's that rat you stop it not to mention. I don't think bugs make great mascots Let's be real bugs do not make great mascots unless they are bees
Starting point is 00:10:03 That yes. Yes true. You can do that and you people can do other bugs too, but it's really really rough Bees happen to be cute enough I genuinely believe the only reason why bees get a free pass Is because they're kind of furry looking yes, and that means our our mammal brain goes Oh, I could pet a bee exactly can pet a bee exactly. It's it reminds me of a mammal It's why moths can be cool Yep, um, Maya the bee gets away with it. Uh santo bigito does not Yeah, the praying nantis sonic friends is not gonna
Starting point is 00:10:42 Just not gonna doesn't work out. It's not gonna cut it doesn't work out Where's um Where's the where's the where's the furries for for the grosser insects the stuff that's not cute or pretty or fun I mean, I'm sure that exists, but it's the same thing about asking people Hey, how come so many of you were Cleopatra in a past life? Did Cleopatra just have like a giant soul that split between 800 of you dumbasses? Didn't we oh wait, we actually asked this question on a previous podcast a while ago Yeah, crawlies different names whatever you want to call it if there's a couple in japan, then that's fine
Starting point is 00:11:20 I mean to be honest I I'm I'm not surprised to hear that there's people that are bees and or moths and or butterflies Butterfly butterfly ladybug. Yeah, for sure ladybugs definitely absolutely, but like um You know who's out there fucking around as a rhinoceros rhinoceros beetle, you know Who's out there? Yeah, yeah, that's that's true. I mean that that's the answer to that question
Starting point is 00:11:46 Who's out there going one of japan's greatest heroes, okay, is a you know what man? You know what the problem the problem was rhinoceros beetles too cool Um, we got it's really cool. We got to drop that shit down to lame Okay, who's going around uh as a spiritual potato bug? Nobody no one's rocking the potato bug Nobody's interested. There's a I'm sure there's a contingent out in ireland, but aside from that You know, let's be real, right? I think that the bias is towards that which is cool or or like
Starting point is 00:12:24 um cute Yeah, nobody nobody's uh coming in with a a a an affinity towards a fucking uh a bed bug Nobody wants that to be that Nobody wants that who wants to be a dung beetle Some some people some people want to be dung beetles They want to roll it to a ball. Okay defend their territory You know The tick right. Yeah, everybody loves the tick. Yeah, but that's that's here. We good. That's that's the theory, you know
Starting point is 00:12:57 There we go. We did it. That's I think I think it's a more almost there's a there's a couple out there. There's a couple, but there's a lot of Random ass forgettable gross insects that people want nothing to do with that. They know one thinks is cute or cool and uh You know and and like I'm not like like obviously slugs have kind of made their their comeback Thanks, sonate You know and and and you got your worm people out there for sure but Yeah, there's there's some there's some some gross ass random bugs. I described people as worms long before I knew furries existed
Starting point is 00:13:34 That can that's gone all the way around to be like a human trait wormishness Ugh slugs worms snails anything that secretes is going to be a problem because They secrete, you know what? I'll need your permission obviously to make this unanimous I want csb to be a strong anti-secretion podcast
Starting point is 00:14:03 No secretion I get out of here no I I don't I don't I I don't agree Um, I want every part of my body that is currently secreting any liquid To stop no no I accept I accept some secretions. I do I Happen to like snails I think snails are really cool
Starting point is 00:14:36 I would see them in granada. They'd stick to things I find them to be cute. I find them. I think the coolest thing about snails is they're just like They're the slowest fucking things in the world. Yeah, and then when they're like, what the fuck is that? They got the coolest shell to back up into I think snails are cool, you know I'm out of here. I'm done with this Slurp So, you know
Starting point is 00:15:05 And then every once in a while you You'd find well actually pretty often you'd find the empty shell You know of a of a snail that's gone beyond and it's like hey look it left its own gravestone I've never thought that once That being said I've never found a snail once Like the shell I mean there's a lot of snails. There's a lot a lot of snails and a lot of snails in granada Yeah Well anyway
Starting point is 00:15:40 What'd you do? All right, so what I have done today is nothing so far. Okay, but I do have great news for me Last friday We took our our wonderful fat stupid oinking child zangief to the vet for his final round of shots. Oh my god Finally god damn it The time period of wondering if every patch of grass the dog wanders near has every single Dog killing disease on the planet on it is done
Starting point is 00:16:16 The dog is now immune to everything for one year and like You you anybody's watched any content I've made over the past like you know month or two Like we call the dog a fat boy all the time The dog had to get a bunch of shots right like five six different injections Was one of those crazy like arms with the multiple needles that comes something like that So what you do right is you grab the dog by whatever the flabby part is and in this case is the back And you got a bam bam bam bam bam. It takes a while right?
Starting point is 00:16:55 When the dog got back to the car It visible dried blood on his back because he had to get stuck so many times Upon talking to the vet. Hey, was he a good boy? She said oh, he didn't even notice Because he was eating cookies. Wow Wow, um the dog brain turn off when food around
Starting point is 00:17:21 it's I've never seen anything like it. I've had a lot of dogs I've known a lot of people with dogs and dogs are are are gluttonous creatures This is crazy The dog was being actively stabbed a lot but Okay
Starting point is 00:17:45 And that's that armored zangief shit If it absolutely is but it needs cookie it needs power up And bonus We have taught the dog many tricks now. We've got sit. We've got lie down which only works about half the time We've got stay. We've got high five. The dog will high five you now. Okay. Okay, but If you're not visibly holding food in your hand Zero of these commands work ever. They have a zero percent success Yesterday I asked the dog to sit and he looked at me and he looked at my hand and he barked and turned around and tried to run away
Starting point is 00:18:31 Yeah, like full on not giving a shit. Yeah, fuck you pay me Now that eventually you have to From what I was listening to a podcast where A dog trainer was talking about this and he kind of mentioned that like you have to work in the alternating Treat no treat system Yeah, so we're currently at that we need to get it down to a 100 percent of the time with the treats Which we're almost at
Starting point is 00:18:59 And then you do 90 percent of the time there's a treat and 10 percent of the time there's oh good boy Oh, yeah And then you have to trick the dog until eventually the dog is so stupid that they don't remember the treats were even involved at all Or it's or it's a build-up or it's like you got to do this a couple times And then after a couple times you're building up a reward, you know Yep Well, I'm glad that the dog at least understands the concept of high fiving Because what happens now is when we we walk him and there are people on the street
Starting point is 00:19:35 The dog sits down and tries to high five them. Did you see that which is adorable as shit? Did you see that video of the chicken? Yes Game design 101 there is a chicken and every time it pecks a pink circle You give it a treat and then someone is handing the treats out and someone else is remixing the circle With a bunch of other circles constantly frequently and randomly And the chicken keeps identifying the pink circle and you're like, yeah, that's video games That's that's that is exactly what you're doing. That's just video games
Starting point is 00:20:09 Have you seen the dog that can do a ex hadoken? Yes, I did People wanted to know I don't want to hear that motions are difficult anymore Um, I saw a dog do it There's a really great video by core a gaming about why motion inputs still exist And yep, and that's the video that I that's where I saw that dog doing a Doken it. Yeah, it's it's it's great. It's worth checking out and um, He he presents a pretty good argument for you know in general. Um, so Shout out to that shadow
Starting point is 00:20:44 Uh, so actually right now dog is not in the house at all dog is taking his first journey to a dog park To make new friends and also run his ass to sleep So god damn it. Oh, I'm so glad that we passed that hurdle. There you go. The awful awful hurdle that is Take your dog out and have it meet new people and new dogs But if you don't know the dog make sure the dog doesn't go to dog parks because if the dog goes to the dog park They can get that dog cough or the parvo and then the dog kills your dog or other people You don't know what's on their hands that you can't go on really popular streets Even though you have to introduce them to as many different types of people
Starting point is 00:21:24 And you can go hang out with your parents and their dog, but if you have their dog they go out Fuck everything is like a dice roll on maybe your dog will just die Your your your weird bubble boy can now see the outside world Yes It's great. I'm very happy I'm glad I'm also You realize the importance also very happy about I don't have to keep watching the movie that I watched
Starting point is 00:21:54 Last night, you know two nights ago Ah Because of the incessant whining of one peach saliva and nudging from checking out some red letter media videos
Starting point is 00:22:13 We ended up sitting down and sitting through fucking twisted pair by neil brine What year is that woolly have you have you seen twisted pair? Not even remotely Have you seen the trailer for twisted pair? No, I want to say the last neil brine Anything I saw was him
Starting point is 00:22:36 Uh at his ball sack floating in the pool Was that faithful findings, uh, that was him hacking all the internets And then no that was doubled down. You're thinking of double double down double down. Yeah, okay so But you've seen two neil brine movies then you've seen faithful findings and doubled down And they're they're pretty good Yeah, yep This
Starting point is 00:23:07 The I Twisted pair is to faithful findings As dmc two is to dmc one. Okay. Okay, but here's the problem Here's the problem when you set that up Is this new? Is this yeah, it's it's it's the newest one man. Okay 2020. Yeah, okay. I think might be 2019. Okay Does he know No, I don't believe that
Starting point is 00:23:41 I think he knows no And the problem doesn't the problem is that once they know It's kind of over Woolly there is absolutely no way that he knows Hmm, okay, okay, okay And the audience number is increasing The the downloads increasing also people have mentioned and I'm aware of that the last film he made was a film making course In which he demonstrates
Starting point is 00:24:18 Efficiently that he very much does not know at all. Does he think that his success is just happening organically? Yes. Okay Okay. All right, so twisted pair I a lot of people say this about a lot of movies when the plot is somewhat confusing I don't know what that movie was about A lot of people are confused neil brine is a tommy weasel currently in the wild Untamed uncaught No masterball
Starting point is 00:24:52 He's he's out there just grazing lashing out And uh, he's being observed at the moment by many with binoculars like The okay, so the movie only has three locations In the whole film one is a university that let him Uh film in their campus always
Starting point is 00:25:19 And like the restaurant is like just the patio where people would have lunch And the secret base is just the front of their library And so on and so forth to his credit the movies have had different locations Mm-hmm A house in what looks like la like a one-story house, you know has a pool And stock images. Yes So
Starting point is 00:25:50 Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna keep talking about this, but while I do that. I'm gonna just need your brain To fully comprehend what I'm talking about. So I'm gonna pull up the twisted pair Uh trailer for you All right Now you don't even need to watch this you just need to skim it and pick out a random 30 seconds You You know what the first 30 seconds We'll do it
Starting point is 00:26:22 Um, maybe a third of the film's total run time Is him green screened onto still images that look like wallpapers Oh my god Okay in this film he has superpowers and He doesn't know
Starting point is 00:26:52 At the 42nd mark you can see him jump Hey with his superpowers. It's a man across the building. He's green screening himself onto stock footage And there's and there's stock piano being I mean Hmm. He doesn't know There's a scene in this film in which a round table of people just go programmable matter programmable ai Secret agencies are ready
Starting point is 00:27:25 It will be a telepathic Minescape we're on the verge of mind hacking And there are at least three times in which scenes or audio from scenes are just played in in their entirety again So you don't think that after significant like growth in in in noise being being made about him
Starting point is 00:27:51 that he's not going to like catch on and and get spoiled And go the go the we so kind of route No Is is no you're is neil brane you are giving A level of credit
Starting point is 00:28:09 Here That I don't believe is warranted. Is he you bring his 61 will is he incorruptible? Is he unyielding yes He will not he can't be changed 61 means he's really old so he might not fucking get it Why would he get it? Yeah, he might be too old to ever actually get it Shit, yeah, dude. Okay. That's good. That's good started making fun of him. He was in his 50s. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, okay No, that's good. If he's too old to ever understand it That's fucking perfect
Starting point is 00:28:45 I mean dude Tommy Wiseau doesn't get it. He does though. That's the problem He kind of does and it's sure with the Hollywood level Yes at this point and like whenever he shows up places live and he's done things He does he does you know, it's it's kind of over at this point But I mean that if you want you can watch either his five make a five hour filmmaking course or the rlmn breakdown Of his filmmaking course. He doesn't get it. He doesn't know. Yeah. No, that is um This this looks like twisted pair feels like
Starting point is 00:29:22 He's made some movies and he's got some success and what he thinks is that now he's established So he can do the really weird shit. Wow. Okay. Okay This this movie's plot There's nothing there's actually nothing there I challenged someone to tell me the plot of this Also, it's the first Neil Breen movie that made me so uncomfortable that I almost considered like not watching it because
Starting point is 00:29:54 There's an early scene in which Neil Breen bumps into a lady on a on the street And she's like you get away from me. You creep And he starts like begging her to meet up at eight o'clock And then he shares a moment with a homeless guy like yeah, she'll be back Ha old school and then he comes back at eight o'clock and the homeless guy's like, oh, she didn't show up man He's like damn it. I'll follow her home Old school and and then he follows her home. Yep And breaks into her house. There you go
Starting point is 00:30:31 And then is it's played like a horror movie because the shadows are everywhere as she's trying to make dinner And then he sneaks up on her and says how dare you and starts to hit her And call her a bitch and throw her onto the couch And then they awkwardly wrestle for like five minutes Until he's like until she's like, oh glad you're home honey And they have an awkward nuzzle and it turns out their husband and wife and it was all a trick for the audience And it's like the feeling of just like what am I where is uh, no Hey, don't don't judge don't judge couples in their cnc
Starting point is 00:31:14 People can get up to their own thing. Uh-huh. Um Neil plays two characters Hit the character the lady plays his wife plays three characters None of which are Okay, woolly There is a piece of tape in this movie That has a mustache drawn on it. It's painter's masking tape
Starting point is 00:31:45 That has had a fake mustache drawn on it It is passed around to different characters Because the movie only has about 12 total actors So there are dupe there are duplicate actors that just put on the the the fake tape, dude Mustache like that's the part like there's things that hit that level that make me go Come on. Skynet has to be self-aware You know what I mean? Like when you hit that level I uh
Starting point is 00:32:20 But anyway, so okay, it is It is the worst movie I have ever seen. Well, I love the idea that he's now teaching classes though slash Or just rather recording himself teaching classes. Um I like I like this uh a narrative where he is the Francis Ford Coppola of his own world That uh has gotten recognition before he even Took he who's who's getting recognition in the wild for his work and he's he's he's unrefined You know, he's not yet been
Starting point is 00:33:01 Uh, uh, uh like hardened out and tempered into his final form yet and uh I'm guessing That like red letter is is If they're covering actually powering him that's what I'm saying like if they're covering his shit on a regular basis And sending people his way like at some point He's going to go like or someone is going to be like, hey, dude Like all these people keep mentioning mentioning
Starting point is 00:33:34 RLM Like At some point that he's going to find the reviews No, it won't matter. It won't matter. They don't get my genius Well, maybe god damn art program, you know disillusioned artists. That's what I'm going to say maybe The same brain that allows these things to exist Also insulates him from ever Like cracking open the shell
Starting point is 00:34:05 And allowing the understanding to come through like maybe it protects him It protects it like like like a keke genkai Like so Maybe it shields him completely and allows him to make it within that same dome. Yes I genuinely don't know how to talk more about the film because it's so nonsensical. It like there's I don't I don't know But there are two other things I want to mention one is um I legitimately thought that the video file that I acquired was broken over and over and over
Starting point is 00:34:39 Because he's using all these photo shops and stock images and all this So they had so scenes have a tendency to freeze on still frames for upwards of 45 seconds With absolutely no movement at all. It looks like a gift that stopped loading. Fuck. Yeah And the second one is the final shot of the movie right before the credits. I just sent to you wolves is Cade altair will return. That's a fucking fire name That means rules Which means that the next movie will be the sequel to twisted pair
Starting point is 00:35:19 Cade altair Well, yeah, because there's cade and kale Oh my god And they're the twisted pair that's strong. You see they were abducted as twins by the entity and given super powers So they can hot mind hack the telepathic neural net I don't I don't know I can repeat a bunch of things that the movie said I can't tell you what they are Do you think?
Starting point is 00:35:51 What's the cut? What is what is the the the cocktail here? Is it obviously you have a heavy dose base like two parts two parts No self-awareness, right? One part narcissism And I'm like what what else do you throw in to create? Because I'm like you need to be 30 years of failure Um, um one part
Starting point is 00:36:22 cost sunk fallacy Sunk cost cost. Yeah. Yes. Yeah, that's it. That's it. That's what it is You've picked a path you're you're already you're narcissistic and Uh, you have no self-awareness So woolly Yeah, I can I can make this whole formula make perfect sense for you because you Have met neil breen in his 20s
Starting point is 00:36:50 You have met the prototype man The proto man if it would be the prototype of what eventually becomes neil breen the prototype Yes, the prototype man. Gotcha Are you familiar with who i'm referring to? Now you can just sit there and you can just wait and you'll see 20 more and we will have a neil breen of our own. Yeah, well I mean not anymore, but That that's over there
Starting point is 00:37:34 But uh, okay The prototype. Yeah, okay. You see you see the pieces and how if you just let them gestate plus time go And someone shows Here's a camera. Here's how you hit the record button Yeah, okay. All right. Hey, man. That sucks. No, man. You just don't understand. Yeah. Okay. Hey, man That didn't happen. No. No, you just weren't there. Yeah. Yeah Making reference, of course to people that the audience has no idea exists has no idea who we're talking about You can't possibly even if we said who they were they wouldn't know strangers that we know mutually
Starting point is 00:38:12 That you guys don't know Yeah, okay, you wouldn't. Yeah, so stop guessing you'd never figure it out. Gotcha. You'll never get it. Gotcha. Okay. All right. Got you Oh Also, also last thing for my week. It's it's a short one because I didn't play anything new I gave a I gave parsec a shot Right because uh, you had recommended it and I was looking into playing Playing online internet games with plague of gripes and I was like, oh, you know what? I love. I love roguelikes
Starting point is 00:38:43 So I went down the steam list And got a massive list of roguelikes boy, there are a lot of them and a lot of them are really good And about half of them have some form of co-op None of them have actual online co-op. Okay. Yeah streets of rogue does I Okay, and how was your touch? Uh, I ran I didn't get to try it with plague because he's he sleeps weird hours But I tested it out with a friend of mine with gungeon
Starting point is 00:39:17 and my experience Was seamless and almost local Right. It was yeah way It is it's essentially the now that now that I've actually got to use it I can understand it better than just you explaining it, but it's just steam remote play But way way better. So Uh, I'm doing this all over get into fighting games, right? That's that's the current application uh
Starting point is 00:39:44 literally Prior to that for The entire time now I'm using it so that uh men Can edit remotely on a stronger computer
Starting point is 00:40:01 And he does and so and he uses parsec for that, right? So I was I was taught the person I tested live from was my fellow my My friend that I nicknamed cool lightning. Don't worry about it. Anyway, um, and after we were done He was like holy shit I'm gonna get guys that work to fucking hop on this shit Because we're all working from home and this is way better than our work from home solution. Mm-hmm Stupid it's incredible. That's stupid. It's fucking incredible, right? And then I neglected to mention a feature because I didn't use it
Starting point is 00:40:35 I didn't have use for it in in in my applications my use cases because When you when you I've mentioned that like you can connect to somebody and you can choose Do you give them access to the gamepad only do you want to give them access to the keyboard or the mouse? Do you want them to only see one application or the whole desktop, right? Yeah, so I set it up. He only gamepad only gunjan exactly and so people connect and if they don't if you're not looking actively at gunjan They just see a window that says the user is playing something else. You know or looking at something else Um, so you have that and then there's one other feature that I I did mention because again, it wasn't or applicable here But this is super relevant
Starting point is 00:41:17 You can go to and it's a major push thing the arcade There's a tab called arcade this thing is Kind of terrifying to me now This is a as a as a fucking tab that you click on that says i'm playing this game I want to play with other people and instead of sending to a friend or whatever you just kind of go I'm publicly sharing this game And if someone wants to connect They can only connect with whatever you access to give them access to including like the controller
Starting point is 00:41:51 And they will then be your second player You can straight up have a public arcade to play with people and people have talked about getting matches of fucking persona ultimax going Because anyone can connect there is a full lobby of PlayStation 3 emulator and super bomber man are going down right now like right this second um Yeah, this is
Starting point is 00:42:20 And I I tried remote play gunjin and this and this is I can't believe how little latency I was actually having to deal with I I off the top of my head. I felt like it was a single frame And then upon looking at the numbers it was two frames So, um, it's again not rollback, but it's it's it's damn good. It's it's delay doing the best it can and Uh, it is again in some cases better than what the game has by default if it has nothing or if it has like a bad setup I'm gonna say that's better than a huge amount of games by default. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's it's a it's a it's a good screen share
Starting point is 00:43:04 and what we're seeing with it too is uh, I want to give a shout out to angela pickles and uh, andy ocr who are running like samurai showdown tournaments and they've been doing a setup where Um, they're you run a tournament through parsec and they've been trying to figure out how to make it so that it's fair because If one person has a local version running someone connecting to them is always going to have the disadvantage, right? So what they're actually setting up is they're renting um either they're renting machines
Starting point is 00:43:37 from google server space And running an instance on a virtual machine and then having both players connect to that So they act they basically have a set instance of the game running On a virtual machine Both people connect and play each other they access who connects and disconnects and when and how and whatnot and basically create a neutral Circumstance for both players to connect and play under fair terms Now I got to say and this is my public service announcement as I am telling people that parsec is cool
Starting point is 00:44:14 Make sure that when your friends or strangers join that they only have gamepad control, of course because There are three options that you can add that are not default keyboard mouse and can connect without your approval Don't don't click it Don't do it Yeah, you're sharing your desktop with somebody you want to make sure that you have that all You know set up so be sure to go through your settings be You know
Starting point is 00:44:46 A double check it and make sure that you're not turning on any of the dangerous options, which by default they don't turn on You have to manually enable the dangerous stuff But yeah, if you if you if you like allow everything and and and fuck off you can just give strangers control of your computer So that's that's a huge no no now that I've been actually using this And I you know, I didn't actually you know play a bunch of games just test it last night All I can think of is oh my god. What the fuck stadia is the shittiest Most garbage thing in the universe
Starting point is 00:45:20 Its entire gimmick is just supplanted by this free app Yep Fuck yep Like holy goddamn hell at the whole it was here the whole time And it was working and it was good and it's been around And I told like I said they had an ad campaign where there were like hey get your fighting games to run on us You'll probably like the results You know, they're well aware and then stadia came along and
Starting point is 00:45:49 I guess again, I feel like the problem is if you were to probably go back and look at like how stadia happened internally I bet you it was just a google lab project That then got pushed too far someone really and then Excited said we can take this lab project and make it compete with the market And and for some reason got approval on that pitch When it should have stayed a lab project Yeah, because it's the kind of thing. It's like oh, this would be a great product
Starting point is 00:46:19 And then the step of the product that you're always supposed to go on is does this already exist You know there's like kind of yeah, I mean someone was was was very excited About glass I thought glass looked interesting and then someone went you know what no actually And then they pulled back on it and now they only release it in a court in a um Uh commercial context. They don't have it for like a non-commercial use but
Starting point is 00:46:47 It was one of those things where they just got too excited about something that should have stayed in the oven, you know I don't know man, um Parsec is great. I look I look forward to managing to play a bunch of games that don't have online play online with this With people that don't even have a copy that are just interested in checking it out It it it might as well be that they sat down on my couch and it's Because I heard you talking it up and like I'll be honest. I I thought that it couldn't be as good as you described
Starting point is 00:47:27 It is absolutely just as good as you described. Yeah, it's Incredible it was kind of interesting. I can't believe it's free. We were playing with um we're playing punch planet and uh punch planet has you know impeccable rollback netcode and um The devs were in the chat while we were playing and they were like hey, you know what yeah, no use use parsec Let's see how this let's see how it goes, you know like yeah, and We did and people were connecting that were and it's just like hey, it's a it's a trial of the game You know in that context like it is the part of the part of this that that you know, obviously can
Starting point is 00:48:08 It can go places That depending on how the dev wants to play it Might get some people in trouble But the whole sharing the game part I think yeah, I think in in the context I'm using it in it is promoting the game in a way that like again Let's people get a feel for it and see what they like I can see this getting into some territory that people might not be as enthusiastic about
Starting point is 00:48:34 You know But you're sharing your games you're sharing your screen with people and allowing them to play with you in what feels like a local environment It's kind of magic. It's crazy That's oh man, yeah, like if this is this has opened up just so many fucking games that and Like zoom like yeah, like let me let me take a look like like zoom and and and you know and and discord and such It's a like pandemic ready solution
Starting point is 00:49:07 To to current problems Because there's one game that I feel is the absolute epitome of This desperately needs it. And that's crawl Crawl has no online play For all is a roguelike dungeon crawler that works better with Two three four people in it. You can absolutely connect multiple computers to your system to play You can get you can get five people in for crawl
Starting point is 00:49:40 absolutely That's fucking god damn it. Yeah. Yeah, I've owned that game since it came out and I've never Hell, it's so of you. I can see you on the the already owned this game Deb only did three players. I've never played it I played I played it with uh, I played it with the three. I never got to do five So yeah, that's a perfect example. Um, I mean, yeah, this thing is is is is incredible, dude. And and you know, um Ah
Starting point is 00:50:12 Okay, so if we get into like fucking theory world for a second, right? Hmm So I'm gonna run I'm gonna run the ultimate test which is getting plague to play this Right if it works well for plague everyone shut up Could you make a box that had hdmi and input
Starting point is 00:50:48 Hijacked For a console So the box has an hdmi in and out to pass through And then it has an ethernet port and then it has a usb from the console into the box So that inputs are sent Well, you're literally just backwards creating the stadia
Starting point is 00:51:19 Like you you literally just created the stadia backwards. Well, I Because I'm like But what I'm thinking about is giving giving net play to consoles that don't have it Yeah, but but the the the idea is is that stadia would always connect to a centralized service. Yeah, right? The reason why parsec works so well is it says fuck your centralized service You don't need a fucking centralized service. Oh, no, my my you just need to connect to this one person There's one step. You're missing on on that comparison. It's not a stadia because it has hdmi and input in Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I'm I'm saying take your console go grab that old
Starting point is 00:52:06 game on that old console that you can And and have it input into the box and then have The the network Inputs go into the console so that you're playing you're playing locally and someone is getting a screen share So here's the okay. I'm just going to type something into you into google how to use parsec with switch How to play mario kart 8 and other switch games on the parsec website blogged up parsec gaming How uh with a little bit of glue elbow grease and patience we were able to figure out how to get it working on the switch You need a switch and a switch dock
Starting point is 00:52:49 you need uh Oh, you jet you just jamed your switch and your capture card But how do the inputs and you screen share the capture card, but how do the inputs share? How do you share inputs? That's uh, like you need a brook adapter, which is the xbox one nintendo switch and she my headless dongle Oh, this is quite a bit more. Yeah, no, that's the step that makes no sense
Starting point is 00:53:19 You can share the video. That's easy. I there's nothing there's 21 steps to this. Yeah, I I'm like the Sharing the screen part is not an issue. We know how to do that. I can we can get past that I'm talking about the input sharing with correct latency You know, that's where none of this currently works out wait for the switch emulator I guess but I mean there's something magic about like uh You'll plug in that SNES and then signal switch it hdmi out and uh fucking you know
Starting point is 00:53:56 Actually play play multiplayer Now it's madness. It's absolute madness. You could do it, but boy, would it take some work? Yeah, it's kind of crazy to think about but you know Yeah, super impressed, but it would definitely be incredibly impressed. It would be a it would be a long way to go. Um Over over getting an emulator going that that much is clear. Yes to get the hardware to actually do it Uh, there you go. There you go double dash, right warp zone. Mm-hmm warp pipe. Excuse me That's what they got going on the gamecube uh
Starting point is 00:54:28 They they had uh Their own servers Cool anything else Uh, not really. I'll be honest. I'm just I have this big ass list of Rogue likes which includes spelunky too, which is soon-ish and uh Fucking bpm comes out tomorrow. Oh my god. Uh, fuck. Yes Hell yeah, so I actually what I went I went through last night
Starting point is 00:54:55 I went through and played half an hour of every notable rogue like on steam Um, which took me the entire day um I don't even have time to describe them But the following games are cool Bad north is cool. Black future 88 is cool. Children of morta is cool Dreamscaper is cool Grifthlands is cool gunfire. Reborn is cool
Starting point is 00:55:26 Monster train moonlighter and one step from eden are cool. Yeah rogue legacy 2 is cool, but has no content at all Oh No content at all you beat it in like two hours If uh, this is a weird list because one step from eden and rogue legacy are so far apart from each other gameplay wise But they do both counts and yet they are Right in that same genre. Yeah, that I don't like that. That's not that's not descriptive enough then it's not being specific enough Scourgebringer Star oh, fuck star renegades. I did play star renegades. Have you played or seen star renegades? I don't think so
Starting point is 00:56:07 Have you you've never even seen it? I'm gonna take a glance that that name could be A couple of things that game is fucking hot That is a a jrpg rogue like That is a a turn based rpg battle system Rogue like and the first thing I see on twitter is that you can pet the dog Yes, and it has like the most gorgeous pixel art style I have seen in ages, but it's like the next step up from octopath You can pet the dog, but we don't recommend you do so. Oh my god. This is gorgeous
Starting point is 00:56:45 This is is that not just fucking gorgeous. Wow It's on xbox game pass Yeah I picked it up, uh, no, I didn't pick it up. They sent me a review code. Holy shit. I was like I was like, holy shit. Okay. Yeah. No, uh, um, this is fucking incredible. That's a done. That's done and done I didn't I didn't I didn't catch that that's beautiful star renegades don't have much to say about it other than it is gorgeous and The combat system is really really really cool hot shit It is it's a it's a rpg combat system where it's all about pushing your enemy's turn over
Starting point is 00:57:24 Uh, and it's great. How's fucking great. How quick is it run? How quick does it run? What do you know how like how quick is a run? I don't know. Okay Because they can be pretty fucking long Because like a run can be like ours. Yeah, okay. Okay, because it is it is essentially a run would be beating a mini jrpg I because what I really liked about, um, about, uh Uh Fuck
Starting point is 00:57:59 The the the one souls Uh with the damn it. I always forget the name, but it's the one that it's got the side scroller roguelike He's he's got a weird name. He's made up of goop and he kicks and there's dead cells dead cells. Thank you. Thank you Um dead cells is uh, I have satisfying eight minute runs and I've had Really really crazy multi hour runs the the the
Starting point is 00:58:29 rule of So I've I've been fucking around with these for a while and I'm I'm becoming I'm becoming a big fucking fan of this genre. The sweet spot for most of these games is an hour Right is the the complete run is like an hour hour and a half um with With star renegades um
Starting point is 00:58:51 An hour so you have to defeat three worlds essentially And each like I did day one of three of world one and it took me like half an hour. Okay And then after you do day one you go to camp and then you have a Camping sequence in which you play cards between affection between your characters and you have party dynamics and that kind of thing Yeah, dude, and then you go to day two And then at the end of each world is a fucking super boss and the super bosses are You played uh, you remember the nemesis system from shadow of mordor. I was talking about it last week. It's it's that
Starting point is 00:59:33 Okay, it's a series of randomly generated like bosses that have personalities and weaknesses and shit That you you map out over the course of your of your runs Yeah, I fall pretty hard for games like obviously darkest dungeon and into the breach. So Um, that is that that looks like a potential Uh, uh, love at first sight for me. I gotta I gotta fucking see what's going on there Cool death road to canada also counts. Yeah, that's that's a little fun one I kind of I'm in that Death road to canada is fun. Um
Starting point is 01:00:09 You you got a space out you got to space it out though We played death road to death roads We played death road I mean uh me and punch mom played a bunch of that in like a couple of quick succession runs and Like a lot of the same things started happening a lot of the time And we kind of started to see a little bit too much behind the How the sausage was made as it were. Yeah. So the magic kind of there There are even more games that I I hadn't managed honestly when I I'm gonna be going through these
Starting point is 01:00:38 Week after week, I'm probably gonna be doing these for like a month Um, so like I'll talk about the more than what bit you That what's that? What bit you? What bit me? Well, what bit me is that I would like I I'm in that weird rut where I don't know what to play. So I ended up just playing gunjan. Okay And then I'm like expand from there. I I I have almost Gotten all of the value out of gunjan, right? I I'm getting to like the 80 90th percent mark of like completion
Starting point is 01:01:12 And the stuff that I have yet to complete is getting harder and harder and harder to do So I'm like, okay. Well, what else is out there? So I go and I hit the roguelike tag and I'm like Oh, there's There's a lot There's a lot in this genre. Oh the other thing Is hades is coming out and so I'm playing through them super giant games. Cool. Uh, I'm almost done transistor
Starting point is 01:01:38 um That game seems pretty good. How is that? It seems pretty good. Cool I don't I'm very frustrated by one thing in transistor And I assume I will be told what it is, but until I get there and I like the answer. I'm just still frustrated Um, and the answer is the question is what is the process? okay
Starting point is 01:02:06 And it it is really frustrating to me that no one is talking about What is that shit? Uh, everything else about the game is a plus, but it's just like Yeah, um Yeah, I don't really Remember having A ton of questions Once we get there once I got through it. I think you're gonna be pretty I think you will be satisfied
Starting point is 01:02:38 I assume they're just gonna be like, haha, but here's another thing Here's another thing too. And I mean you're incentivized to do so, right? This is not that it has nothing to do with your question but uh, are you like I've unlocked every single piece of dialogue I possibly could and are you are you are you um, yeah, you're Leveling up including the limiters. You're leveling up your your your your crew Every single thing okay, okay Because that's what it has led to battles that are way harder to win than they should be
Starting point is 01:03:05 Yeah, because I'm using shit that I fucking hate in slots that I don't want to but that's my favorite part about the game honestly is that when it comes to like items npc items are npcs are friends are people are Consumable not consumables, but the thing that you you get a chip and you can equip it in in a utility slot in a weapon slot And it also unlocks lore as you level it up those all being the same one thing Is a process i'm fucking in love with and I wish I could see that more often There's the reward for liking something that fits into a slot and how you want to set it up and whatnot
Starting point is 01:03:46 Is that you get more info about it, you know So imagine it, but I also was significantly frustrated about like My desire to get that stuff was high enough that I would just constantly switch my stuff out and it led to Maybe a third of the total encounters being ones I didn't enjoy because I felt like I was being forced to use stuff I didn't give a shit you weren't on your optimal build Like I'm like I really really don't like this ability. Okay. Okay, but I have to use it in all three different slots Or else I won't know what the deal is
Starting point is 01:04:26 Hmm. Yeah, I kind of I balanced heavily towards what I enjoy on that, but um the Uh, I was gonna say like, uh, you know, if you imagine your soul's item description Gets longer as you level up the weapon And then imagine you could also put it on an armor slot as well, you know, that's uh Near does that Yes, come to think of it automata does yes with the with the with the the stories Mm-hmm
Starting point is 01:04:56 I will say one last thing about the my jump into roguelikes before I describe them more later on in the coming weeks Uh, I refunded a bunch of games after I bought them because they just weren't my thing like I got for the king And that's like a board game. I didn't realize exactly what it was. So that's going back, but it's fine. It's just not for me, right? There's only one that I refunded that I'm like this one is bad and I don't get why it's very positive and that's a game called neon abyss um I legitimately don't Understand why it is so highly reviewed Because it just seems like a shittier side scrolling dungeon
Starting point is 01:05:35 Like it seems like almost the exact same type and style of gungeon with like a Like a neon filter on it But side scrolling but bad Everything else I was like, oh wow, that's cool or boys that like the the thing noita. I don't know if you've seen that one No, every every pixel simulated noita. No Yeah, it's made by the by the baba people. I think okay Like I playing it and I'm like, this is really weird and not for me. I bet it's super cool
Starting point is 01:06:10 Neon abyss is very pretty and I'm seeing uh bullet bullet hell patterns Yeah So that's Like I played noita for like an hour and I'm like, I don't get it Why is this I don't I would just I would just play I would just shoot dudes in my wand and then get killed and be like When is the cool stuff in the trailers? Oh, yeah, so this neon abyss thing? I guess it looks like they're they're kind of going for like Yeah, shmup plus 2d side scroller. I think that's the that's the intention there. So yeah, I get it
Starting point is 01:06:47 That's a that's a combo that that does work contra proves it. Yeah Yeah, I didn't care for that one. That's the only one that I came away from going like Okay, this just feels like kind of a bad version of a game that I already have noita Yeah, this this one looks really weird. I thought um For a second because there's I thought you're talking about noi 2 love 2 For a second. No, and oh ita. Yeah, I see it The other one is that it's like on jack game Because I was playing and I played it for a bit and it's like all I got to do was shoot things with like really shitty wand
Starting point is 01:07:24 Mm-hmm, and then I look at the trailer and there's all this cool environmental stuff and I'm like, I didn't get to do any of that Why didn't I get to do any of that? There's a lot of there's a lot of good indies out there and um That's a genre button that you click on that Exposes you to a fuck ton of them because That is a really easy
Starting point is 01:07:50 Well, not easy, but that is a very clean way of making your small game last a lot longer, right by having remixed levels There used to be one that you played as like a spaceship and you would go on missions and it was very anime Do you remember what the name of that is? It's popular like three years. No anime Hmm because I was gonna say deep sea derelicts is uh is um Darkest dungeon space, but oh Not ftl, but ftl also ftl that on one. Yeah. No, what zero wing. Is that it? No, not zero galaxy
Starting point is 01:08:25 That's what it was Galak galak galak z. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah Galak z they show they're at every con. They're another uh High traveling team that makes it out to to every booth set up Yeah, yeah. Yeah, galaxy has been that on the list That zero wing zero wing is fucking all your base, man. Yeah, I know I that I am we're at two There are so fucking many of these
Starting point is 01:08:57 And they're like three or four that just came out like, you know, spelunky too is coming out. Yeah. Yeah, dude There's all there's there's always always many many many And like there's the the indie game community is like also like pretty uh Well, I don't want to say tighten it because it just there's a lot of people that you'll you'll follow like one game account and see They're retweeting each other and pushing each other and stuff. So they're pretty healthy with uh This stuff. So if you kind of go to any one of these particular indie accounts and just kind of go through the timeline Oftentimes you'll see retweets of other cool shit
Starting point is 01:09:29 No, not deep space waifu Deep space derelicts you said deep space derelicts sky derelicts sky derelicts Is a little bit that the one it's it's it's space darkest dungeon a little bit Oh boy, is it space darkest dungeon? Yeah. Yeah Holy shit. I played that uh last year How is that compared to darkest dungeon? You you use your eyeballs All right
Starting point is 01:10:05 Yeah, so um It it it it had it had a couple issues. I remember talking about them on the podcast actually, but Um, you know take a peek see what you see what you think about it uh, but there was some stuff that uh I I was a little unsatisfied by but there's some also some cool ideas in there, too But it was a while I played it a while ago. So yeah, um Throw that on there There's a lot of these. Oh, yeah, that's that's what I'm gonna be doing in my weeks. Okay. I'm gonna be doing uh
Starting point is 01:10:41 Let's see. What am I doing this week on tuesday? I'm gonna finish transistor This is over at pat stairs it on twitch by the way on thursday I'm gonna be checking out ultra kill which I fixed by the way. I fixed their framerate problem That was me I complained about it to the ceo and then they sent me a dev build and I fixed it Thank you. You're welcome Uh, are you sure it wasn't a build that like lets them shit on you extra hard in some way? Okay, hold on. I'm gonna go for a direct quote
Starting point is 01:11:13 Uh, let's see Uh update is out feel free to claim your throne as the sole mastermind behind ultra kill the movie the game Yeah, tell him you rewrote the source code while you were on the shitter I made ultra kill confirm that's canon. I I made it and then I fixed it Look at you Yeah, look at me Uh, and then friday i'm gonna do star renegades and that'll be the start of hopping in and back and forth between one day of Pyre and then a week of
Starting point is 01:11:48 Shit ton of rogue games Okay, uh, so boy, there's a lot Uh Over on woolly versus, uh, I had a week Excuse me bless you. Um, yeah, we uh did Quite a few different things. Uh, so I guess The week kind of started. Well, no, let's let's let's just go in any sort of random order here. Um
Starting point is 01:12:21 Uh I did a sponsored DC fandom stream But how could you do that if you're such a big marvel fan boy? Well that That that was the problem, wasn't it? I had to it. I guess it was I had to Switch teams and put the the marvel bias away to to to get on board the dc fandom and um That's a really weird name for something. Mm-hmm
Starting point is 01:12:51 Is it a dome? It's it's not a dome It's it's it's like a fandom. Don't get it except uh, uh, there's I guess there's like a virtual Well, I mean when you're talking about dc fandom really does sound appropriate. Hey dome The dome encapsulates everybody And it has the the dc flatter underneath it Uh-huh, you know, so it all just kind of comes together Um what they show off at the dc fandom. Well, I watched uh I watched the making of uh like behind the scenes with injustice
Starting point is 01:13:30 uh, and You know sort of talking about where the comics were going alongside that Uh, I jimmy was in it and jimmy's cool uh, there was a Um behind the scenes of shazam So watch the sum of that and I'd say the thing that definitely left the most impact was a feature on the watchman tv series
Starting point is 01:13:59 Which I had not yet started And I did not I saw a trailer and I heard good things about it And I remember I also heard those good things and I remember one of the uh, big pitch points was That the the location it takes place in is tulsa and I thought that was really fucking interesting As far as a choice goes and I was like, okay, but what are we doing? In the watchman worlds like how where do you go with this story? What is it and sort of watching this kind of like Uh, uh feature at breaking down like the introduction of where it goes and what it's about and a little bit of like
Starting point is 01:14:38 kind of what happens um It is really fucking interesting I Super duper like what I saw and I think um I I respect the strength of the premise On its own merits and it also happens to be watchman related And I found that like what does allen more think allen more thinks his snake god is probably bullshit
Starting point is 01:15:07 Cool allen more thinks you should get out of his cave And thanks allen and allen more thinks a whole lot of other things but uh We're not it's not what we're gonna talk about today. We're talking about Uh, yeah, the the fact that it's a different podcast. We got through um We got through the the most of this breakdown of the of what the world is and how the how the setting is is presented as
Starting point is 01:15:36 Something that I was interested in and like it had nothing I was interested in for none of the watchman tie-in points Those were a footnote. You know um Takes place in tulsa um They do not shy away from talking about Uh, the tulsa massacre. They don't do it. They do not shy away from talking about black wall street and like the history of what happened there Uh, the premise this is again a show from 2019. They introduce a they introduce the concept of
Starting point is 01:16:05 um like a uh A police defense act that allows Uh all officers to cover their faces so that they're anonymous and then Our and police are effectively like operating with their identities covered and um Seems like a terrible seems like a terrible idea and then uh
Starting point is 01:16:32 Even for the police that seems a terrible idea and it's pretty fucking scary to see You know, it like in action and then uh in the midst of this Racial tensions spike to a fucking uh, uh nuclear boiling boiling point right and uh, you get 2019 you say and the and you guess 2019 exactly it takes so it's basically watchman world fast forwarded to 2019 and uh from what I saw
Starting point is 01:17:04 Like you kind of have so you have this aspect of like, uh cops are legally allowed to wear masks You then have an aspect of like here's uh full on here's your full on neo-nazi group coming in with their own masks, of course Uh, who are rocking Not just any old like a pointy White mask or cloth bed sheet, but the roshak Right. Oh man, and they're rocking the roshak. Why because Uh, they're following his uncompromising ideals
Starting point is 01:17:42 put to paper because At this point in time fast-forwarding from that world The books of his journals are out there and the shit he wrote is out there And when you think about how fucking misunderstood of a character roshak is like he's already Uh, he's already misunderstood in real life By us, you know, um
Starting point is 01:18:10 So then taking that and working it into like this context is really interesting, right? So you have that aspect and then of course you have those who fight back against that so the whole thing is just like masks across the board and uh Shits getting pretty bad in the streets and this was all ahead of 2020 and I'm like, oh, okay. Wow I'm I'm just curious about that that concept and then you also factor in that. It's like, yeah By the way, this also has watchmen tie-ins here and there and there's little bits and pieces that relate to the original story
Starting point is 01:18:52 and I'm like, I I I respect that because if you really just were gonna make it like hey look Do you recognize the big blue dong? Do you see it? It's right there in the corner of the screen Hey, look, it's a batman. Mr. Manhattan. Hey look, it's it's specter. Hey look It's vape you like if that's all you were gonna do with it Then I'm infinitely less interested, right a game of a game of catch up with these characters is It's appealing to want to know where they are where they're at and what's going on with them That's always fun to know like, you know
Starting point is 01:19:27 a Story plus time and see how it evolves but Like the name To me at least when you're gonna when you're gonna revisit watchmen you better have Something interesting to say on your own merits, you know So it sounds like it does and to the credit of the the director I believe he described taking this project on as trying to follow prior on stage
Starting point is 01:19:57 And I like that's a pretty good analogy because yeah What the fuck like you are you really you're you're gonna get up on stage after fucking richard prior walks off or carlin walks off I won't do that. You know what I mean So what do you do you you have to bring a completely different message and ideology that matches thematically with what was originally discussed and hopefully Take it in its own direction. So I'm I'm I'm super sold after watching that feature at on the hbo watchman show and I want to see what's going on More more to explore
Starting point is 01:20:34 Um anything else that you saw of interest to dc fan dome The also and they actually to acknowledge the fact to just us just to say that We I mean we brought it up before like I brought it up on the on the on the podcast before but the fact that yeah Tulsa was not something that people really knew about Actors on the show were like this is the first time I'm hearing about it You know, we already kind of talked to hear about the fact that that's not it wasn't taught in american schools and things like that is is Like thank you and kudos for being like hey by the way
Starting point is 01:21:06 Just in case you didn't know this happened in america Not too long ago and you should probably be aware of this if your education system didn't tell teach you about it, you know, so um Incredible on that note um Yeah, that that was the biggest takeaway the other thing too is they it was a tease at the uh Three jokers comic which you know, we'll see uh how that goes but like I kind of was explaining to reggie the the lore of
Starting point is 01:21:36 Joker over the years being Sort of confusing origin point character and how There's a bunch of different ones and we don't really know what to deal with them is We just know that different every age had a different one and that's kind of why the movies Uh hint at that sort of mixed origin point thing. So yeah, who knows? Oh, I know what it is Is those comics written over 70 years? And at some point in the middle of that, uh, the the comics code authority stepped in and said Comics can't be too violent or encourage devil worshiping or
Starting point is 01:22:11 Or be too, um, I don't know interesting So we have to dump them down and make them censored for a one million moms across america I think the goofiest version of the joker that I've ever heard of I literally found out like 10 minutes before the podcast Was a it was a thread on uh best friend subreddit About the character j from gotham. Have you seen this shit? Oh, uh, I've heard about gotham and its incarnations Of so it's like so here's the deal. There's a character named like jeremy or something that is kind of joker But the dc won't give them the fucking pass to make him a joker character
Starting point is 01:22:54 Or jerome. Yeah, uh because they don't want to confuse people with the 10 other jokers They have in the movies now, right? So like the guys got green hair and a purple suit and bleached skin And he fell into a vat of ace chemicals and laughs and kills people and uses playing cards But they can only refer to him as j Can't call them the joker because it's definitely not the joker so that idea Executed in a way that I really enjoyed was the telltale version of it
Starting point is 01:23:29 Yeah, that was actually really really really weird john doe indifferent john doe was the way to do that Where you're like, no It's clear what's up here, but more importantly He's genuine with you It's not a big work. He's actually very genuine with you and you kind of see it happen over the course of that entire run, you know that entire Uh storyline playing out. So, uh, that was the that story can be done, you know Uh, but yeah, so that was that, um
Starting point is 01:24:07 Did that event, uh, I decided to dip my toe into the weird world of rock smith And okay Clearly and obviously due to the peer pressure of a musician in my vicinity So how come you can't play the guitar? So, uh, I've had a craving to go back and play some plastic guitar games for some time now to be perfectly honest I I really fondly remember how much fun guitar hero and rock band were and Like I don't know the other day I was listening to the through the fire and the flames and I was just like fuck me man
Starting point is 01:24:48 That thing is so good right, uh so Yeah, v came over and brought his guitars and uh, I installed rock smith and because everything is fucking horseshit garbage legal nightmare world with The tony hawk and everything happening now What are you gonna do play a fucking rhythm game on twitch and just watch your stream immediately get killed? So instead kill it
Starting point is 01:25:15 Instead a bunch of custom video game songs were loaded up for the safety uh, and then I basically grabbed a real guitar and learned how to fucking Play the middle and end part at the beginning and end parts of, um Life will change, you know And now you're a guitarist That that that that that that that that that it's two notes
Starting point is 01:25:46 Yeah, and now you're a guitarist well I Know much more than I did prior to that and prior to that I knew very little But I did used to dick around with my brother's guitar back in the day on uh on old church days because there was nothing better to do And I used to teach myself how to play like I'm like I want to learn how to play crades theme I want to learn how to play um Kirby or haruka kanata and then I kind of like just fucked around until I could so
Starting point is 01:26:19 um Now I kind of have a little bit more of an understanding of like how the chords work and and there's a really fun jam mode Where like the more aggressive you play the more the game backs you with other instruments and a full like kit and a Full band and then you can just kind of Dick around and and it tells you like what you should be dicking around with which notes are Uh safe to play what scales you should be on and uh, it was a lot of fun. It was a lot of fun um The only problem is just like every once in a while discovering
Starting point is 01:26:51 like How a very famous song is actually way easier to play than you thought And then you start playing it and then you go. Oh god. No wait. Please. Don't kill me twitch You know so don't do it or youtube so, um Yeah, listen the internet apparently hates music Just hates it. Well, I mean the internet loves music but the uh The platforms. Yes, the man is not a fan That much is clear
Starting point is 01:27:24 Damn the man, but uh, you know it once you get past the part where You have to break your fingers to like, you know Play power chords and and all that shit Uh, then you're you can do it. You can do it the difficulty. It's really interesting because with a guitar It's very different like I when I dicked around with a piano as a kid when I dicked At church when I played drums when I did other instruments like this uh You the difficulty was not the execution because you well
Starting point is 01:27:59 You press the button on the piano and it makes the note You hit the drumstick into the pad or the symbol and it makes the sound, right? That's right. So making the sound is not the issue It it comes from the the technicality of Setting your brain to autopilot While you drum with a three limbs or four limbs or Making your hands coordinated enough to go up and down while you play on the piano with the guitar The actual making of the sound is the difficulty Yeah, I discovered very early on when I was in music class that uh, my baby shit stub fingers
Starting point is 01:28:38 Would make learning an instrument like guitar actually physically painful. You would need a child's guitar Yeah, they do exist. Um I remember being shown in high school like here's how you do a chord and I was like, hey Teach, uh, my fingers don't fucking reach that shit And he just like looked at me and he was like Yeah so what I had a blow a blow a moment that blew me away with like
Starting point is 01:29:08 execution Was you know, um Of course, whatever will he in his fighting game analogies you have the tapping of the button If you would you you have the pressing of the fret and then you have Uh, not pressing the fret right and then Like you would strum And then whatever note you're holding in and pressing plays and whatever you're not
Starting point is 01:29:36 Pressing plays but that's all there is to it And what I learned was there is an in-between step where you can be Touching a string but not pressing it so hard that it's actually touching the The neck of the guitar, you know, you're just pressing your finger on it and floating it So that when you strum on that string, it doesn't actually make a sound So you don't accidentally play the wrong note And suddenly I'm like, oh my god, the super hard thing Was always making sure to get my finger or the pick
Starting point is 01:30:12 to go in between the The the the strings at the right place and not play too many strings Just play the three not the extra ones And now you can actually play all of them But with enough dexterity in your in your hand You can just stop the wrong notes from playing by resting your fingers on a string without pressing it all the way in So what you're saying is that in order to do combo you need to hold your fingers on the fret So it doesn't do combo, but then you do the combo and that so it's like a combo, but it's not really a combo
Starting point is 01:30:46 I'm saying that I just learned about negative edge I'm having a really hard time understanding what you're talking about and it's because I don't know anything about music All right, imagine if there were combos that required your finger to be touching a button, but not actually pressing it I don't understand. Yeah You have to rest your finger on a button without actually pressing it in To do a move. Okay, imagine if that was a new input That's weird. Yeah, it is it is But that's how fucking that's how nuts it is right a half press not even just resting it on top
Starting point is 01:31:21 I'm gonna stick to my orb instrumentation. Thank you. Yeah Palm and it's not palm muting palm muting is another thing entirely Uh palm muting is is was was a whole other step, but whatever. Uh, yeah, it was really impressive I was I was very very like like holy fuck. Okay. All right guitar. All right um rock smith was fun uh, then I took a fucking uh
Starting point is 01:31:48 I took a left turn and then upwards we went to space to to play Some of that m-bond Are you familiar with m-bond? M-bond is the acronym. I'm gonna need a spelling here. Let me let me spell the whole thing out for you Mobile suit Gundam extreme versus maxi boost on Aka
Starting point is 01:32:17 m-b-o-n That is a that is terrible Do you remember that Gundam game we played a couple years ago that required like friends to come over the most obnoxious setup We ever went through ever absurd, right? So the new version of that game came out and They actually allowed you to play land Without that obnoxious setup now Also also has split screen in it Okay, so it's like a regular video. It's like a regular video game now
Starting point is 01:32:49 It has split screen and you can do a land hookup You know, I know this this really only applies to people like us who work with just tons of games Yep But you know, did you ever see the baba duke? I know baba duke the You've seen it. I haven't seen it, but I know what it is Okay, there's a part where the mother the the kid is just throwing a tantrum And the mother just turns to him just frustrated his shit and just screams. Why are you you be?
Starting point is 01:33:20 Why can't you be normal and then he goes? Ah Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah Like the amount of games that I run into that I am constantly saying that too Is so fucking stupid right right maxi boost on in particular is It's coming from japanese arcades where that's their priority and then the console release is a later afterthought And also north america is a later afterthought They're happy to keep making money
Starting point is 01:33:56 As the japanese arcades are packed right this gundam game is all over Japan it is taking up entire floors As people play it it's 2v2 And it's very popular I I think the worst I
Starting point is 01:34:17 Like and it's almost kind of a similar thing. It's like, you know, there's a bunch of like exclusive Like new costumes and and lore stuff in that the city a game That is for every final fantasy that Like there are costumes that show up in that game first and then show up in their own games later And it's like why can't this fucking arcade game be a normal fucking game I'm glad that the gundam people got a fucking regular took a while But but it happened and and to be like I might play this just because I can Every version eventually came out and dropped and they just they kept building on it, right?
Starting point is 01:34:53 So gundam extreme versus Like as a series has had multiple iterations. This is I think like the fifth one Though seven if you count like arcade updates or whatever and they just announced part two so I'm just gonna Imagine that this is only on the ps4. Yeah, sure The logo looks like a fucking like meme Of photoshop jokes slapped together. You know when you know when you grab like a bunch of words and you like go like expand dong
Starting point is 01:35:24 Oh my god, that is terrible. Yeah, you see that, right? Look at that is so Look at that. Look at that fucking logo, dude. What is the acronym msg? ev m msg ex vs m msg
Starting point is 01:35:43 ex vs ex vs is well, no, you would oh, yeah, I know it is ex vs because ex vs is what the series is called x versus m o so it's miss jacks mo m bon Where how wait where wait, there's how does where's the b boost? Boost on maxi boost on So wait the m in m bon is maxi mobile suit Gundam extreme versus no maxi
Starting point is 01:36:18 Maxi boost on Exxon mobile is so bad That's so bad Let me go find the fucking title of super turbo in japan again Super street fighter 2 turbo Dash for matching service
Starting point is 01:36:42 No, that's not it It's way worse than that. It's way way way worse than that Uh Okay, it was okay. I'm thinking of a different version a super street fighter 2 turbo the ultimate championship. Sure. Sure Hey, that new one. I just uh mentioned that's announced Is mobile suit Gundam extreme versus 2 cross boost Guess how you spell cross boost
Starting point is 01:37:15 With an ax damn straight. Don't you ever forget it? I can't think of a single letter That causes as much confusion written in english by foreigners Like every single time it comes up from a japanese game You go x boost and they go no I'm cross. I'm personally hoping that we get that the new game is going to be acronymed into x versus xbow
Starting point is 01:37:52 xbo And and it's a oh, so it's it's on xbox. No No, it's an arcade game Oh, man Have you seen this fuck that fucking tweet? I don't know if it's news About the xbox floating around. Uh, there's a couple of things But just the idea of the game coming out being xbow and it has nothing to do with xbox is as hilarious As doom 64 coming out on a bunch of consoles that are not a nintendo 64
Starting point is 01:38:26 Here it is i found it what will i want you to tell me what this means The xbox series s will not run xbox one x enhanced versions of backwards compatible games But will instead run xbox one s versions of xbox one and xbox 360 I Understood immediately put that stupid dumb bullshit also Microsoft came out and said we want people to go to the store and just ask for you know the You know what the official like acronym name of the new xbox is uh, it's series a series x series s. No
Starting point is 01:39:10 It's xbox Remember last time they were like call it the one xbox one x But they wanted you to just call it the one. Yeah Now it's the xbox because they want you to go to the store and say i want the newest xbox And they'll ask you do you want the x or the s the two letters in english that sound the most similar Possibly three if they do if the other if the rumor is real There's a rumor that there's a third one that is a mid-spec I
Starting point is 01:39:47 Know that I know that Willie I feel like we bring this up every three months about like the worst titles every time in box history And I was of the opinion that the new nintendo 3ds is the all-time champ Because it's so confusing. I think microsoft is going for it So they have like six boxes on the fucking market that are all just called xbox and then a slight Change we laughed at the we because they did so much consumer testing That they wanted to create a sound that no one in any language would have a problem saying and
Starting point is 01:40:24 Only to discover that it means penis or piss in like any english adjacent language But now on the other end of the spectrum you have what letter are you saying? I can't understand you On the phone. Okay, so The current let me think let me think the current lineup of xbox is Is the xbox The xbox xbox The xbox 360. Yes the xbox 360 s. Yes through the slim. Yes The xbox one correct the xbox one x. Yes
Starting point is 01:41:05 Then the xbox one the xbox series s Then the xbox series x Oh, I forgot about the s I forgot about xbox sad x and the 360 elite But x bone sad x bone sad and elites were in there too. Yes. This is correct Woolly I I replied to somebody's tweet about this And I got confused. I thought they were talking about the x
Starting point is 01:41:43 And they were talking about the s and I'm like how come it doesn't have a disc They were it was like xbox one series s will not have a disc drive And I typed out how does it not have a disc drive if it's a big a fridge And people kept hitting me with no that's the other one If people like us get it wrong What fucking chance does grandma or your dad? It it is really like they've just they've tripled down on Everything that they promised to be when it was going to be the total extreme action console
Starting point is 01:42:21 Infinite extreme action Like it it it it just Has no marketing power whatsoever and um Yeah, it's it's the worst it's ever been it's the worst series of console names ever We we got a we got a we got an explanation in chat that'll help New xbox series s isn't compatible with the xbox series x But is compatible with xbox one x titles, but not xbox titles But it's also compatible with xbox 360
Starting point is 01:42:58 and 360 titles Back when this was originally called the direct xbox and then they just shortened it I was like, okay, whatever I don't like the name, but it is what it is But all of this can be traced back to one single moment of paul marketing in his peak in his prime When he was feeling himself Came into work that morning had his coffee
Starting point is 01:43:28 Veronica winked at him and then he went full confidence into that meeting and said We're not gonna compete with the playstation that has a bigger number than us We gotta come in swing in and go we can't have the xbox two and they have the ps3. That's no good That sounds bad and weak and we are strong and big So we need a bigger number And the biggest number that's bigger than three is a 360 Done and that would have been fine If that guy stayed and the next one was the 720 and the one after was the 1080, but they fired that guy
Starting point is 01:44:18 And so here came in pete marketing saying God damn it. Those playstation numbers are bigger. We're not gonna play the numbers game at all We're gonna we're gonna play the meaning game Because it's gonna be input one. It'll be the most important one. That's right the one And some people probably said to them So the the naming convention is zero three one then And he went shut up
Starting point is 01:44:49 Shut the fuck up And now that guy got fired and now its numbers are stupid and lame We don't need that shit See, I think whatever stupid path you pick The answer is consistency And with this nintendo is often fucking dreamlands doing their thing and it is what it is But they all have different names But they run into problems like the new nintendo 3ds and the we you nintendo 3ds excel
Starting point is 01:45:24 And and the we you draw tablet Whatever fucking we we already played this game with the we you yes, exactly We literally already played this and it was hey, guess what the the brand confusion over the we you was so bad People still don't know They thought it was a upgrade tablet for their we There are literally going to be two devices Each of xbox you can buy in store that have the s or x acronym and as an english speaker I can't
Starting point is 01:46:03 Emphasize strongly enough How similar those two consonants sound but they don't matter because the only thing that does matter is the price tag They will both be on the shelf and one will be $2.99 and that will be the end of the discussion I am telling you right now woolly This I am going to create a situation that will happen a not insignificant amount of times Mom dad, can I please get an xbox s
Starting point is 01:46:36 For christmas. I know it's a little expensive But I've been my grades are good. I and I'm not getting the expensive one Okay, billy. We'll go get you the xbox s And they go to the store and they either ask for the xbox one s Or the they accidentally Say s kind of like x and the cashier shows them the $500 one and they go fuck that billy Yeah, and billy gets a console. He may already have the or nothing
Starting point is 01:47:13 I mean the magic of of of the hardware here being if they pull like they like they're gonna pull all xbox one s Is off of the shelves so that you know, but it's stupid. It's just dumb. I I'm kind of Flabbergasted that sony Manages to win this by just not tripping over their own dick and falling By having the most boring name in the history of anything which didn't start that way again I still say that the playstation is not a great name for a console. Oh, it's terrible But by now they just said that plus the number go up done It's just the and then if they're gonna release a fancy version. It'll be called the pro I guess done
Starting point is 01:47:56 You know like it doesn't confuse anybody. It's the it's the number and it's there I mean nintendo super nintendo Okay, nintendo 64. All right You know, I think the fact that people still call things the nintendo is a clue that they probably should have stuck by that Well, here's how here's how strong Brand naming shit is and how it can lead to tons of problems Despite the fact that I've been drinking monster exclusively
Starting point is 01:48:27 Since the day death stranding came out If page is heading out to the store, she will ask me if I want some purple red bulls Yeah, there you go. There you go. Okay This shit happens all the time my mother still calls shit the nintendo still Uh, yeah, I think I think honestly like It it would have helped to just follow that line through and you know, maybe even It maybe even stick with gameboy for the console names on the on the handheld were a division, you know
Starting point is 01:49:06 But whatever the case is this was a good one. I like it's it's fine. It just got stupid It was the switches were fine. It just got dumb in some cases nintendo overall You know what you're talking about when you say the product name at the very least Are are we technically into news now? Did we just like jump over without realizing? No. Well, anyway, I just wanted to say that Um, um Almost hurt myself from my fidget spinner. I didn't I didn't even get to talk about the fact that uh maxi boost on is a good It's a good game. It's fun. It's a really good. Oh, I assume it's good It's a very good Gundam game. It has all the suits. I wanted in it almost
Starting point is 01:49:47 It didn't have one or two, but it had just about everything that was um You know, I found it was missing. Uh, you were like, I But I like an I like an obscure suit. So the f71 g cannon was not present. But why would it be right? It's a super disposable non big deal. So um That wouldn't be there and that's fine. I'll take that Uh, there was absolutely um
Starting point is 01:50:17 Stargazer was there uh thunderbolt was there The kashatria I you go to the list and you can set off your favorites. So I just went that that's the first thing I did was all right. What do I want quick search grab? Right grab me that tall geese grab me heavy arms Grab me fucking how many of these robots are in this game? Yo, it's got crossbone. It's got the pirate um Full armor doubles eight is there, you know, like I'm like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I got a list of shit I want to I want to fuck around with that's good. So that's nice
Starting point is 01:50:48 Immediately go to the music bgm section and turn that shit off Because every single time you play a suit it's gonna queue up the music from the show and again As magic as that must feel We live in a world that is not allowed to have fun. So I couldn't Can't have fun. Can't have fun had to turn all the music off having fun Uh When you pick char man that you stop you just have to feel it in your heart That you have to feel you have to feel char's music in your heart, but I made the dumb ass fucking mistake of like
Starting point is 01:51:24 Enabling the goddamn Music pack for dbz when I streamed it on ps4 all those times ago. Yeah, don't fucking do it man come on um Yeah, so I ended up I ended up falling in love with uh easy eight Eighth ms is in there and I ended up being like really all about that The easy eight is the the suit that I ended up really enjoying um
Starting point is 01:51:50 Fazz is great too. It's got a it's got a an spd So that's great, but um all the suits are there and What I ended up doing was just playing a youtube playlist of chiptunes versions of gundam music Well, there you go. So we did that's legally distinct now, isn't it? Yeah, we did it. We did it um And uh, I understand the
Starting point is 01:52:16 You know the fun and design of like why people love this game so much. It's really fast um It takes a lot of the Nostalgia you have for arcade virtual on And puts And puts countdown to the words virtual on when you talk about next up Yeah, right It takes a lot of that memory of virtual on and the speed of side dash boosting
Starting point is 01:52:44 Left right up down around the corner peek from behind the building Shoot at your laser all that all that really cool. Shit that you feel while you're boosting around and flying Except it's with all the gundams from the shows you love, right? So Yay, and the music is playing and the voice actors are doing their thing So you're just getting all of that like tie-in nostalgia with a really fun combat system And um, I have to give a kudos to the fucking game because They take a bunch of suits that have
Starting point is 01:53:15 A gun a laser sword and a beam a beam saber and a beam rifle and they give them different moves Okay, you would think that a bunch of things with a v-fin And some and the same three weapons or four weapons would kind of be really similar But like they had a pretty diverse move set that was for the most part um like unique and uh
Starting point is 01:53:41 Very canon to the things that the show that they do in the shows. So i'm like, that's That's awesome. I like that they came up with some good stuff It's one of them I have a move where they turn on their saber while some cheerleader attacks them with a rocket victory gundam is in the game The bikini babe squad is not a move but Victory is there Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so
Starting point is 01:54:07 um You know, but like they have little things like you hit the um you hit you hit the uh one of the Buttons with um Heavy arms and he starts doing dumb fucking Uh flips He does dump all the trol flips because he's a big old I bet heavy arms could do a flips. He's a circus man, you know um stargazer lights up with the with the
Starting point is 01:54:31 The satellite orbiting dome things and yeah, so You know in the end a horrible title aside and musical issues aside. It's a whole lot of fun and uh That's why we're talking about horrible title and playing it forgot how we got it's a 2v2 But playing it one 1v1 was a lot of fun The way the system works is interesting though. I don't know if you remember this but both teams have a total cost pool And every time you sortee with a really good suit
Starting point is 01:55:04 It costs more than a really cheap shit Okay, there you go. There you go. That's how you do it. So I can I can rush your shit down with um apion right the zaks marquise and just and and and uh That's gonna cost three thousand Or I can rock my easy eight for a 1500 so I get to die more times because i'm a dumb little fucking suit But yeah, you have to and you have to deplete the total cost value, you know So it's ratio system basically
Starting point is 01:55:38 That's great. Yeah, it works. It works. It makes sense of how super strong suits can still exist with weak ones And be that strong, but also You know, it's fair So not free ratio system that would mean I could change my my my costs It's a fixed ratio. I want to have 35 shitty Gundam wings No You can't can't play as big zam unfortunately, but big zam is in the game. Oh darn Dude, I hate big zam big zam rules. I'll have none of this big zam fucking rules
Starting point is 01:56:15 I legitimately can't understand why people are like fuck. Yeah big zam. I love is it because its name is big. Yes end End of discussion his name is the big zam looking robot ever He's a big boy. He's got big legs. You shut up about big zam. That's so stupid. I hate how big is he? How big is he? It gets iced out in like two seconds. How big is he idiot? He's very bad. Yeah Big zam rules It's extremely large especially when you can rock it with an act guy But um
Starting point is 01:56:53 Yeah, big I'll send you pictures that mold again. I swear to god keep talking about big zam Um, I really wished you could do a dread jet stream attack, but unfortunately you cannot Um Rambaral rules. Anyway, good game. Good Gundam. Yay and split screens fun and uh, yeah, check it out You will recognize at least You know one robot at least one robot Maybe two
Starting point is 01:57:28 Um Yeah, and then I went back to uh rage of the dragons had a good time with that Got it. It was an excuse for me to talk about double dragon lore. I got into why I love double dragon rage of the dragons um incarnation and Uh, that game is gonna be apparently getting a sequel sometime in the future I don't know why I don't know how it it confuses me because it's not even an official licensed double dragon game, but
Starting point is 01:57:57 Uh, it was supposed to be and the fact that it came out despite Not having the official rights to be a double dragon game Makes so little sense But then again, everything about double dragon is like and it's licensing is the actual stupidest fucking shit ever Egg exactly, right? So if wander of dragons for the 360 can legally get itself released Rage of the dragons deserves a little bit more love. I would say um At least for the best jimmy lee design in the entire franchise
Starting point is 01:58:33 It's it's it's the strongest by a country mile and Uh, I like the eye and I and that's that game also has like pepe and pupa Uh, and some other really fun character designs that you know never really came back outside of like a little cameo in ultra in a matrimony, so rage of the dragons my my favorite unofficial My favorite double dragon fighting game I I'll say and then as far as regular double dragons go like neon obviously, but yeah, it's good stuff. So that was my week
Starting point is 01:59:10 All right Where can they check out the remainder of your existing current week? current week You can always come on over woolly versus on twitch woolly versus on youtube We are currently On the end arc of Mario the thousand-year door paper mario thousand-year door on youtube. We've already finished it on twitch so we are we are
Starting point is 01:59:35 able to Mix the schedule up a little bit Also, um, you know the the the halo slot is currently open as well. We're still working through sushi ma. Oh I saw about that I saw a tweet about that from microsoft today. Yeah a little something interesting about that. Um So one paper mario is fucking unbelievable
Starting point is 02:00:06 This is like It's the first mario rpg. I've I've completed since the original mario rpg mind you so I have a very limited point of reference but It fucking completely erases that as far as like Um, which I prefer, you know mario rpg is incredible Paper mario thousand-year door. It is just is the is the fucking best like it's such a good game. Um
Starting point is 02:00:37 The music is incredible the fight the combat system is is Really fun and and and interesting um The roster is the strongest by far It's the strongest thing about the game is is that you have a whole new cast of people that are all They they look like they they fit right in with the mario world. They look like they've been there for years and If they had the ability to use them in other games If they had the ability to pull them in like for like cart racing or fucking tennis or whatever
Starting point is 02:01:11 They would be beloved Right the no the mario franchise. No, they wouldn't be nintendo says no nintendo says no because they're fucking cowards but like it is It is wild how much fun shit is left on the fucking floor um Toe dat, you know, if someone knew that like nintendo is allowing to Show her her face if only for a brief moment before sending her back to the fucking dungeons
Starting point is 02:01:40 But it's it's it's it's ridiculous. It's a whole roster of Like characters that don't even winners winners that don't step on the toes of existing characters, right? You might argue like in nintendo if you're if you're a dumb nintendo exec you might look and go Oh too many princesses daisy and rosalina. I don't know. What about peach though, right? But they still go through with that Whereas, um, you have a goomba. That's a unique goomba. You have a koopa. That's a unique koopa
Starting point is 02:02:17 A babam. That's a unique babam a kid yoshi A fucking cloud ghost thing Uh, you know, you got a bunch of great characters that are only Only in in uh, they're the representatives almost of their race. They don't step on any other existing unique Um, you know Characters from those those enemy races
Starting point is 02:02:43 Tell me about violence violence Is my mvp Violence is the best so somewhere I So in the middle of the tournament arc When you are in a wrestling side story
Starting point is 02:03:08 fighting for the belt Yes, you encounter an egg Which is about to be cooked at a hot dog stand But then it follows you instead And then after you it follows you you can't really get rid of it, but it's around whatever You go back into the wrestling Rink and you fight through the stables
Starting point is 02:03:35 And you go through promotions and you actually Like become champion and and like fucking crush it And the egg was there bouncing around the whole time learning From your ways in the battlefield And then it hatches In the locker rooms and a yoshi pops out that's ready to fight and kill And it knows nothing
Starting point is 02:04:05 But the world it was born into It knows nothing but violence Uh-huh, so violence joins the party yoshi has joined the party. He will answer to violence Oh, I see He proceeds that's pretty good to stop the shit out of everyone and everything And um, you get up you get up you get a a boy for life It's great, and he never stops calling you by your kayfabe name Oh, yeah
Starting point is 02:04:40 That's great So he believes kayfabe is real Because he was born in a world where it's all well. He's born because he was born in the ring basically Yeah, he knows kayfabe is real is what you're saying sure So, uh, his heart It's incredible. It's a really really really good, uh game and Uh, yes upon completion comes the tragedy of knowing
Starting point is 02:05:07 And the tragedy of understanding that that they all died right after you turn off the game. That's it done and done There is me motto showed up with a gun and just said mm-hmm One of the the the bomb that joins your party like Like let me i'm gonna send you a picture of this fucking dude. All right, send me a photo like Send me a photo of this of this bomb It is uh It is criminal how much fun they had with these designs only to never ever ever use them again
Starting point is 02:05:51 Never ever That is bobbery. That's a bob. That is bobbery the bob bomb That's great. He's got a mustache. He's got a captain's hat. He's got a uh, uh A ship a ship wheel On his back And he's he's he's he's fucking you just you feel the energy you feel the energy of bobbery, you know Yeah, um, that's an amazing game sushima's continuing. Uh, we can actually Uh, switch the schedule up a little bit give sushima some more attention because um, you know
Starting point is 02:06:33 It's it's been only taking up saturday slots, which means things are going to go a little bit slower than usual Um It was I was very did you finish those quests with that old lady? Uh, I um on eight of nine I believe of lady lady note shell and Uh, no, no, not her. Um I fucked your dad. Oh, yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes Yeah, we did those that was I I was very very
Starting point is 02:07:06 Um, I was attempting to resist to the direction the game was going and reggie was all about it Um, reggie has now earned the nickname hip breaker Oh, yeah, uh The breaker of hips Um So that's in there. Uh, yes, and don't care for this the ghost stance reveal was fucking fire That was incredible I'm gonna kill you guys. He did it. It was very strong
Starting point is 02:07:42 Uh, yeah, so you know, um to the to the folks who are who are Uh, uh sending me messages such as Um Woolly this game is two months old You need to hurry up with your shit And it's like Yeah
Starting point is 02:08:04 Eight whole weeks. It's kind of criminal Anyway back to halo and mario Listen Listen I actually do have an answer for that And the answer is gosasashima you you hit it when it was new Whereas mario and halo were ancient by the time you started that
Starting point is 02:08:28 Which means that you got rid of all that right like day one That was the day one shit Halo's old. Why would you play this old halo game for grandpa's? Or i'm just gonna Play what I want when it suits me, you know and uh, what we are um We are able to move the schedule around a little bit mix things up and get uh Some fresh shit coming your way. So uh, yeah, I'll be announcing that obviously over on my twitter woolly wolves, but uh
Starting point is 02:09:01 We are gonna be bringing in some new shit Of course and um Should be exciting should be exciting Uh, of course though this wednesday is a little bit different because of the uh rusa teeth stream But yeah, uh, please get excited and look forward to new lps on the horizon uh, i'm very much
Starting point is 02:09:24 Enjoying I think we've been on a pretty good streak I think I've uh been picking some strong titles and I think I've so far Loved everything that I've picked out as a curiosity So I'm I'm trying to Do a little bit of research figure out if this is gonna work out and like if it seems like oh That might be something I want to know about then we take that path, you know So yeah, that's all over at woolly versus Let's uh take a quick word from our sponsors
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Starting point is 02:19:40 All right a couple things happened this week Let's start with the rise and fall of cheater island Oh man, I was hoping we got to talk about cheater island this week I really do appreciate the fall guys twitter account because it delivers its messages with such candidness and What I would call um Chromulance, you know, yeah, you can you can feel
Starting point is 02:20:12 The the person behind the account and and they just they they they talk pretty straight. They shoot straight so I noticed a tweet there that included Someone in what I believe was a chinese version of fall guys attempting to play And everyone except the person playing Just teleported right to the end instantly as soon as the the the green light went and I'm like, this is the state of the world, huh?
Starting point is 02:20:44 damn Damn this bitch of an earth um There were other videos including one where uh everyone including the player themselves all I want to say hulk jumped from the bottom of the mountain to the crown And uh, you're just like yeah people really There's different energies. We've covered them in the past with like the different kinds of cheaters out there Some are just like laws. Let's fuck shit up. It's hilarious
Starting point is 02:21:18 And others are I feel bad and I need this validation to win I need it and and it's very important to me. I can't handle losing. I hate it. Right. There's all kinds all kinds. Um You know It's it's oh, yeah There's there's and then and then there's those who go online back to the forums where they bought the cheats and complain about them Not working as they show off. Uh, what can only be described as micro penis energy Yes, so uh big micro penis Um
Starting point is 02:21:55 There's only a few things in life that really hit me with Micro penis energy That's one of them Another is uh hiring someone to pretend to be your enemy so that you can yell at them on camera Uh, that's micro penis energy um we Got to see a thread over here where the fall guys account was like hey those clips
Starting point is 02:22:26 are not actually that accidental There might be Uh, a little bit of a story behind why you've been seeing those events Are you telling me those clips are from the fabled cheater island? So fall guys game on twitter says buckle up Let me tell you a wild story about the rise and fall of cheater island tagging netflix in case they want to make a film series about it
Starting point is 02:22:58 At launch we held we had some of our cheap owned cheat detection built into the game We weren't banning anyone at this point just gathering data carefully Wanted to be a hundred percent sure that our cheat detection would only catch people who were legitimately cheating. No false flags After we confirmed it was working We secretly launched the fall guys cheater island trademark It was a magical place where cheaters could happily compete against themselves for the cheaters crown Literally just a normal crown tainted with the hollow feeling of guilt and regret Remember at this point we had data on who was cheating, but we weren't acting on it
Starting point is 02:23:28 Fall guys cheater island had a population of zero so very carefully over time We started to lower the threshold on cheat detection if you pass the threshold you are tagged as a cheater It's worth pointing out at this stage cheaters are very smart They know they've been tagged if they know they've been tagged as a cheater They'll work out what caused them to be tagged and they'll let tell other cheaters Our threshold originally was really tolerant cheaters would get caught but not be instabanned We hope they'd realize cheating kills the fun most continued anyway
Starting point is 02:23:59 And uh, we want people to have fun, but not at the expense of others. So we kept lowering the threshold So if you were tagged as a cheater, you'd be able to finish the game you were in But then the next time you tried to match make you would only be able to match make with other cheaters without realizing You were There you made it you were queuing for cheater island So they put in Fucking cheater jail. They put it in Right rage quit jail except it's not rage quit. It's it's it's cheater island
Starting point is 02:24:28 Now if you can imagine you'd need 40 plus players to populate a game cheater island It's not a location in the real world. It has its own set of global servers You need enough cheaters in your region to start a cheater island game if there weren't enough then you'd be falling forever There were some genuine bugs that would cause this thing to happen But when people said they were falling forever, they were cheaters and we didn't want to give them extra info I'm sure you noticed we try to be super open and upfront with you in all our communications So it's been difficult to talk about cheaters though because everything we say gives them more ammo and they're using it to improve their cheating For a long time there weren't enough cheaters to set these matches up
Starting point is 02:25:05 So we lowered the thresholds on detection more cheaters were getting caught but still no island matches Eventually cheaters were falling forever saying the game was broken And at this point cheaters started to realize they could team up with friends who weren't cheaters and match make with them to get out of jail Uh, oh no, we had to patch this before they realized cheaters realized they could also use family sharing to uh Use an alternate account to bypass cheater island. So we disabled family sharing Um dealing with cheaters is difficult. They're very crafty Uh during this time we increased the threshold on detection. So we're a hundred percent confident Anyone flagged as a cheater is definitely cheating. This was super important to us. We didn't want to falsely ban anyone
Starting point is 02:25:52 Last week something exciting happened There finally were enough cheaters to match make and create an island There's a new problem though, and we think the videos Uh of that people were uploading might be cheat island, but they might actually not be it's it's unclear It seems like it could be but there's no way to be a hundred percent sure and there's the two videos we described And then they basically go on to say That uh, we have a new update coming out called big edus and anti cheaters And the anti cheaters part is going to be epics anti cheat
Starting point is 02:26:26 Uh being implemented into the game So, uh, yeah, they they basically just had to shut the island down eventually And they're going to be implementing this and the experiment was what it was But here comes anti cheat I find this fascinating. I also find probably the most interesting thing about this is not cheater island itself But it's the phenomenon of what happens when cheater island is unknown And starts to cause weird effects on the perception of the game So the one that I always think of is uh, batman arkham asylum came out on p.c. There you go
Starting point is 02:27:06 And the forums and social media Were flooded With people saying this game is buggy This game is a piece of shit It keeps telling me to go to this location and the fucking grapple points don't show up I keep running into progression bugs Only for the devs to go that only happens when you pirate it. Yep dumb fucks. Yeah, but Not everyone saw that
Starting point is 02:27:34 So it started to circulate that the game was buggy And it's like oops and so you start to see this with fall guys They only came out with the secret cheater island once these videos of like is this game just a cheat fuck apocalypse The like I saw those and went oh, I guess the time for fall guys is over the fun of those secret flags Is unfortunately that the backlash when people share shit like that May it changes perception of what's actually going on out there because the person of course who's recording the video
Starting point is 02:28:14 Is a piece of shit But they're not telling you that hey i'm a piece of shit Hey guys, i'm a garbage the person's just recording a video and going god. What the fuck is wrong with the game And it's like well, why don't you tell us piece of shit? You know Why don't you come on? Hey Yeah, did you did you tell a did you do something in the game that might make it a piece of shit? It's very that possible. It's very very unfortunate of uh with that side effect that uh, you know, you can't quite catch it. Um
Starting point is 02:28:50 There would be it would be it would be nice though if there was some sort of like I don't know like you need you need to have something overtly on the screen you know like Uh uh to be a little bit more clear about it so that people can see it and get an idea as to what's going on but Yes, uh in this case rage quit island cheater island All these things these are all great. These are all great. Um ruining ruining the multiplayer experience for other people Uh fucking sucks and if you do that you're you're shitty and you deserve whatever comes to you
Starting point is 02:29:25 um I think they've finally settled on the uh punishment of you can't log in And that'll do oops That'll do too you know Like you can have the fun of cheater island, but it is ultimately Less effort to just say no fuck off now I will this is going to be rare for me because I fucking love cheater island. I love
Starting point is 02:29:54 Uh cheater jail. I love these There's only one time that I don't Sorry two things that I don't one is Activision threatening you with like a lawsuit if you use cheats Because holy shit guys calm down And then the second of which is if you're playing a from software game And somebody cheater islands on you. Yes
Starting point is 02:30:22 Yeah, you see the problem with obviously the latter half of that is that's a single player multiplayer experience That can get super fucked up. So that sucks but um There is only one circumstance in which I love cheating that I can think of And that is the joy of a video when a cheater doesn't win A cheater is so bad But they still lose
Starting point is 02:30:51 Even though they have all the advantage that to me is fucking Just it warms the cockles of my heart Because is it are you imagining the the tantrum that they must be having the biggest baby piss shit Fucking yells As they get so mad that they're faster than everybody And they can move amazingly and jump higher, but they still can't get the crown I am absolutely like I'm so happy that their own ineptitude can create an even further despair for them to follow into That's the only thing I like
Starting point is 02:31:35 Big fun big big fun on that I mean shit like I would almost say Yeah, like it would be like how like again if not for the problem of changing perception of the game to be like, you know, uh Bad or worse than it actually is we've talked about these ideas in the past and like all the amazing fucking mind games You could play on assholes And like it would be so fun to let somebody
Starting point is 02:32:07 Just not be able to actually finish a game or not be able to touch the crown or you know, you can still yeah, it's It's like it's it's like your good old hell band shadow band mute Where they continue to scream but no one can hear them. Yeah, yeah and they become upset increasingly as
Starting point is 02:32:29 How come you can't even Pay attention. Yes, exactly. Please and and you know, it's it's in some ways psychologically a worse punishment than just being kicked out you know But yeah, the you can't I never really considered the perception changer whenever we made these these these uh hypothetical worlds And that is true that if everyone goes this game looks shit. Look at this dumb bug You know Hey, man the power of social media
Starting point is 02:33:02 Dude, should I play breath of the wild dude? I don't know. Have you seen this clip? I Think have you seen link running around? You have seen it doesn't look too good link. I think my I think one of my favorite examples is A guy invades someone in dark souls one And runs up on this guy chilling afk by a bonfire
Starting point is 02:33:32 Who has hacked himself to be hyper invincible? And begins the process of kicking him all the way through the archives all the way down the planes all the way off one of the crystal like uh, uh bridges And it takes fucking forever and just kicks him right off the edge and sure enough The fucking death field on drops ignores hp in that game
Starting point is 02:34:06 Yeah Again that game does not have The same argument as others because it is simultaneously single and multiplayer Yeah, that's a weird it doesn't get to fit in As you know into the the argument as nicely as everything else does you know what fall guys should do right? Fall guys should have a toggle. That's that that's rainbow addition and turns on in-game cheats And puts you into cheater jail with the cheats on purpose
Starting point is 02:34:44 On purpose. Okay Yeah Sure Sure, and then that just becomes the new favorite mode because it becomes st Yeah, yeah can't do that to people Um So There's that uh, also
Starting point is 02:35:12 How nice of uh, microsoft To announce Halo 3 odst Straight for woolies straight to my channel Well, the question is the question is is how soon? Um, it comes out on the 22nd And that's in one week. That is exactly that is an exactly one week. Halo 3 odst is dropping Um
Starting point is 02:35:39 So that's fun. That's a fun little that's the halo game that doesn't have john halo in it. Well, neither did reach Before reach so, yeah um You know people are like when's when's odst and i'm like it's not out yet and they're like it came out years ago and i'm like No shut up Hoa So there that goes
Starting point is 02:36:07 um Also announced pretty fucking cool Spark the electric jester 3 Is now a thing spark the electric jester that fun uh sonic like that i uh played Not too long ago lots of fun um Powers a little bit of mega manning a little bit of curbing Lots of speed running around and such and then uh spark 2 came out and now 3 has a trailer
Starting point is 02:36:35 And it looks like it might as well just be called like spark adventure, you know um You're you're grinding on rails You are uh jumping you're speeding through boosting paths doing loop-de-loops and targeting enemies in the air and zipping towards them I gotta go look at this shit um you're running on walls And yes, you're really just
Starting point is 02:37:03 You're really just doing spark adventure, you know Um, oh wow No bones about it Yeah Why can't team sonic make anything worth a shit? because there's multiple teams and
Starting point is 02:37:24 A whole complex history of what actually happens every year That at this point, I don't know but just But does spark Get to do it with the human Like i don't think spark does I think spark hangs out with robots lame spark hangs out with some cool robots though But does he get to do with the robot but uh, what's what's really fucking just
Starting point is 02:37:50 What's what's interesting about this franchise is it's like unapologetically following in the footsteps Every step of the way. This is so obvious. This is so The 2d the 2d version of it was very clear in its input inspiration And now the 3d version is super clear in its inspiration and it's not even pretending But it looks great. It looks like a really fun Sonic game if you were to see a blue hedgehog doing those same things. So um We will oc
Starting point is 02:38:20 Excuse me We will see This oc And uh, yeah spark o6 coming soon No Spark the electric jester 3 looks pretty fucking good Oh, and they ported uh spark 2 to xbox with the trailer. So that's that's fun. Oh, that's nice
Starting point is 02:38:44 Uh fan games Can be really really cool for example TMNT Rescue pelusa If you've seen this thing I'm seeing it in about five seconds TMNT
Starting point is 02:39:05 Rescue pelusa Looks oh this looks fucking unbelievable Fan ninja turtles game 60 playable characters What? I'm sorry 60 playable characters Vernon wingnut asuka
Starting point is 02:39:31 Everybody who saggy ojimbo Wait you you said you could play as Vernon Vernon The camera guy the camera guy. No, he's no camera. No Vernon's not the camera guy Vernon's the uh the news guy He works a channel at the oh the news. Yeah Everyone is playable Usagi ojimbo is there play a Vernon go. You have the pink shirt. Okay next It has levels in the style of TMNT one side scrolling and turtles in time beat them up And it's doing the same sprite styles
Starting point is 02:40:07 Except it's just like taking it to You know the fandom extremes you can ride vehicles Um, and they got these great little cuttings of the the action figures doing fun stuff Like it's the best ninja turtles game I've ever seen And uh, this is what fans are doing And yeah, uh, it's out get it today at mersox.com. Okay, cool This is what it is. You're interested in this at all get it as fast as you can get it right now because guess what? It's done. It's out. It's here. It's out. We might be killing it right now
Starting point is 02:40:46 But it's out and it's done and it's here So my message need not apply because i'm telling you to go get it right now That was uh TMNT rescue palooza Available now at merso-x.com All right, good incredible looks it looks fucking like It's Obviously as usual
Starting point is 02:41:24 It continues It continues to be embarrassing almost That a fan can make the best ninja turtle thing In years By just it's become extra having the love it's become really clear that fans know what they're doing I mean There have been examples over the years of some fans not necessarily knowing what they're doing There have been uh moments where
Starting point is 02:41:56 Fans Steering the ship have been um a little drunk All right, let me let me let me let me change this a little bit that fans can know what they're doing just as well as anyone else There's a caveat because I think when you Poll the audience and just take in the poll numbers and make your content according to that You get that reboot of he-man Which was entirely poll driven
Starting point is 02:42:27 And it was the dumbest stupidest worst shit ever and You can't just listen To a poll um What you can and should do is listen to one really talented fan You got to find your christian white head And be like please Please save this
Starting point is 02:42:54 You know Uh and and then in this case you can find out what um What ninja turtles games need because we haven't had one in forever. Well, I'm not talking about thunder cats I'm talking about he-man back when they were on fucking roller blades Yeah, come on people. There's so many of these shitty reboots. You can't keep track or try Um So anyway, no not thunder cats for the love of god he-man skeletor Anyway, um
Starting point is 02:43:28 So so TMNT No, it's not new. It's not new. It was a long time ago But it is a reboot of he-man the ancient tv show Are you doing all right with this? Are you talking about thunder cats? All right, listen, whatever TMNT go get it Rescue pelusa guys. I think he's talking about thunder cat Um
Starting point is 02:44:03 You ever get caught with your ass hanging out Me never Never you ever get caught not a once You ever get caught with your digital deluxe edition Accidentally upgrading to the ultimate edition While your ass is hanging out. I'm so glad I talked about what bullshit. This was the last week. Isn't that fortunate? What could you be referring to control has an update To the story and to your console
Starting point is 02:44:42 Uh-huh, so you remember the story from last week, of course Yeah, if you want to control upgraded to the next gen version for free. Well suck it existing owners You have to buy the new fancy one that just came out Which contains the exact same things as the people who bought the original and bought every piece of dlc For like 40 off But you cannot get the upgrade because fuck you, you know Just fuck you
Starting point is 02:45:13 I mean, it's nice. It's one of those things where it's like, hey, nice to see you've offered it Um, why would you completely open ass and drop diarrhea on everybody who supported your shit from the jump? Well, because it's just not possible to upgrade that version molly. Okay, so has remedy Been fucky-wucky like this in the past This is not remedy This is their publisher 505 games there we go They're the people who fucked up the version of the switch versions of bloodstained and indivisible too. Okay
Starting point is 02:45:51 And they also were uh behind the uh horizon zero dawn pc port then This is par for the course beautiful. Thanks publishers. Love you guys. They have they have become a giant Fucking red flag in the span of one year It's fucking impressive Good shit good shit So it's just not possible to upgrade those control uh copies man. It's not possible. Can't do it Uh, the controversy was dying down until apparently a mistake Unlocked this version for some ps4 owners overnight
Starting point is 02:46:30 Numerous existing owners of controls digital deluxe edition reported being granted ownership Of the ultimate edition that was added to the playstation store And the surprise sparked hope that a change in plans might be coming but alas it was just a mistake and They quickly removed the update Um That they said they were not able to do It's just
Starting point is 02:46:59 Not possible Why would you ever say Phrasing like it's not possible Because that was a lie when you said it and everyone knew it and it fooled no one But now it's like Uh soap uh all right Eh Back to the trenches flashback noise
Starting point is 02:47:30 When you're working, um In the specifically not qa but uh compliance to pre-mastering departments Uh, you are going to be um Identifying everything correctly And giving it the right number it's like a skew right every um every Excuse me every product code every version of a game has a product code
Starting point is 02:47:58 You know like back there was like sl us for you know It's like PlayStation stuff back in the day and everything has its own has its big old thing And you got to make sure that when you Up that whatever it's called whether it's the title id whether you're talking about xbox you're talking about sony's or nintendo's You have to make sure that you are updating the right skew On the right version And not accidentally touching anything that is already live Um, it's a very very very meticulous and important process because when you fuck up things like this happened
Starting point is 02:48:30 so When these mistakes happen which they can do if you are not Paying full attention to every box you're filling out and every form you are updating and validating as you send the the the shit over Uh this mistake can happen If you're you know your team is a little asleep at the wheel, but the the the reason why i'm getting into this is because Someone absolutely made this mistake and was fired for this The amount of bad blood you build
Starting point is 02:49:09 By lying like an asshole and then being exposed by your own stupid buffoonery Within like what five within the same week within the same fucking week This type of mistake is probably someone's job I I I I couldn't see the meeting going any other way So i i i'm curious willy i have a curious question for you You describe it's a meticulous process and that it's uh, you know, you got to be careful, right? But it's also your job Yeah, sure. That's that's
Starting point is 02:49:45 The way you're describing it this sounds like It's not in fact impossible or simply not possible But that it in fact it is so easy to do That you have to fight hard to not do it Oh, yeah ever since
Starting point is 02:50:08 Two generations ago Uh updating live Products is a thing absolutely and entitlements. Oh, so you could just do it you could just Turn entitlement to something on So that you can either update an existing thing Or allow an existing thing to have access to a new thing that you've put over here But then why would they say it's impossible if it's so easy you can do it by accident
Starting point is 02:50:34 Hmm Get any shirt that doesn't make any sense. Yeah gonna gonna need to get to the bottom of that mystery It's pretty uh I I It's like the opposite of page Whose whose mantra is just do it. It'll be easy When it is in fact not easy But in this case it is
Starting point is 02:50:59 We can't do it. It's hard But it in fact is quite easy it's like The best follow-up to the story is Again your own trousers dropping And the camera zooming in
Starting point is 02:51:20 to show The details the lines and the veins, you know Um You get a real good zoom in on those nuts I Once again Feeling that same recent frequent feeling I get of
Starting point is 02:51:39 Man, this is a cool game. It sure does suck that it's in the hands of some piece of shit publisher It's almost like There's not a decent one among them of buying control has been the worst Every part that's not just playing the game is like the worst shit Like you realize that when it comes to publishers you either feel neutral or angry Occasionally with the exception of like devolver Devolver um Um
Starting point is 02:52:29 Focus home interactive has paid me a bunch of money. Well, that's not the same thing So that's cool Um new bloods cool new blood is cool From my hit game ultra kill but didn't did new blood start Does that how they started or did new blood make a game and then become a publisher? I believe they started is about okay new blood is cool. Um I think I think yacht club. I like capcom a lot of the time Uh, um yacht club is also publishing now
Starting point is 02:53:00 So that's cool But you really gotta You really got to think, huh? Annapurna, I need to verify something Annapurna's focus home interactive did in fact ignore the a on devs shitfest That's true and that's awful, but that doesn't take back the money. They gave me mm-hmm So I do enjoy that money and and yeah, we got way forward uh up in there, but um
Starting point is 02:53:34 It you you have to dig don't you? Yeah, it's tough. It's tough. I do like being able to contact the ceo Of new blood and tell him he's a motherfucker. That's a good way to function as a publisher If cd project counts like what have they published that they haven't developed A ton of shit they they have gog everything That goes through that everything on gog that isn't like a third party. Okay. All right like big like every GOG classic game you would think of
Starting point is 02:54:13 Fair enough um But uh, they're also similarly. I mean we've talked about the the argument over what what polish crunch is or is not Yeah Adult swim that's true there. That's true too. I like okay. It's you can look amongst the indies and find a couple of like, you know Indie it's like wrestling honestly Yeah, you can look you look you could look you could look amongst the indie publishers and find some smaller companies that are just like Doing some fun stuff and be like, yeah, all right. You'll be like, wow it slams. All right. Yeah CC dubby has got some shit going on
Starting point is 02:54:49 Lucha underground has the camera hanging above the ring That's crazy Yeah, yeah, once you start getting into that triple a game, it's very very difficult to um To find anything that is not neutral or worse Oh boy, well anyway, hey, well hey, well this probably isn't the story that you have in your thing Uh, do you have uh any Outer worlds news in the docket this week? I would like you
Starting point is 02:55:33 I would like you to read two tweets that were tweeted out on september 9th verbatim if you would The first tweet has been sent to you The Outer worlds peril on gorgon is the first of two narrative expansions that can be purchased Individually or bundled at a discount in the outer worlds expansion pass A copy of the outer worlds on the same platform is required to play expansions This following tweet was tweeted immediately afterwards
Starting point is 02:56:12 Greetings employees of halcyon We're aware of an issue with the outer worlds peril on gorgon dlc not being available on the epic game store While we work on a fix those of you departing through the gate. This gate can enjoy A zero g brew on us. We will share more info as we can't And now I ask you to complete the puzzle woolly on pc. Where can you play outer worlds? On store dot private division dot com All right So i'm gonna walk you through the things that happen here outer worlds came out as an epic exclusive everybody remembers that right?
Starting point is 02:56:59 okay, so the day before The dlc came out the epic store Accidentally published the patch That would go along with the dlc, which was the 1.4 patch up from 1.3 They immediately realized that that was fucked So they rolled it back within like a couple hours But that meant that if you had played during that time period your save files became annihilated
Starting point is 02:57:30 By being rolled back to an earlier patch number Because you were trying to play the 1.4 patch save files on a version of the game that was in 1.3. Oh fuck then When the dlc went live it turns out there was no way to actually literally buy it Because it didn't have a store listing. It was only included with the existing expansion paths if you bought like the digital whatever the fuck And they couldn't figure out How to actually put it on This was then followed up like five six hours later
Starting point is 02:58:08 To find and purchase the dlc on the epic game store Search for outer worlds and on the bottom of the game page You'll find peril on gorgon listed under add-on Oh no Then people bought it and installed it only to discover that the combination of events Meant that many of them had save files that either couldn't start the dlc or were just permanently ruined The first comment underneath this thread is what about the issue of not being able to play it as you're stuck in the final mission I don't know
Starting point is 02:58:48 um We've made this was the perfect encapsulation of I was like I want to play tony hawk, but I don't want to play it on the epic game store And people said it's just a store and then this happened an hour later and it's like This store breaks your games This store deletes your save data
Starting point is 02:59:13 This store which is the the pc version of this game is the premier like flagship place to play it Is the only place where you actually can't play the new dlc I was sent a review code for Parallel on gorgon and I decided not to cover it because I just didn't feel like it And god damn are they lucky that I didn't because this is all I would have been talking about while playing So if you boot it up on that day Your file your version got up could be have corrupted completely. All right. Yeah
Starting point is 02:59:56 Beautiful beautiful beautiful isn't that just wonderful glad to hear epics doing okay Is epic doing okay, I don't know epic if you can if you let us know reach out blink twice loss of what 30 million a week Because the apple shit that number kept changing. I don't know what yeah, because it's fake. I don't know what's made up It's projection. Yeah, I don't know what any of that means anymore like it It's something it's something big, but I don't know what the actual number is Anyway What a piece of shit
Starting point is 03:00:42 Turn that sponsorship down I was gonna play spell break earlier today and then didn't because it's on the epic Um Well Anyway, so we talked about x-boost Excuse me cross-boost Shut up we talked about shut up with that The showcase of ps5 stuff happening on september 16th, but you know
Starting point is 03:01:18 Only we're not going to be able to cover only because we'll be doing the rtx panel Um Is there another screen nearby that will be covering that however Your problem. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, probably. Yeah I can't cover it, but my my phone is right here. So Um And hey look at that everybody can get the fuck out of brian leo malley's house
Starting point is 03:01:51 Because scott pilgrim is back Hooray I would like to say to everyone thanking ubisoft for bringing it back Don't do that They're the ones who kept it away. They literally held it back the entire time Yeah um So a couple a couple of thoughts here first of all
Starting point is 03:02:17 Uh, I was fully planning so it turns out in all these years. There was a way To actually get the game running again and to go to get it as preserved on 360s There was a method yet to jump through some some hoops to get it, but there was a video I was sent a while ago About how to do that I was fully intending to go Do the legwork gets get it running and then Uh, pop that shit in and take a look at it as like a rare
Starting point is 03:02:48 instance of something that can't be done otherwise and um You know Scott pilgrim it would have been fun to to be like hey look here's a game that proves that you know digital storefronts Can sometimes be completely not real However You know timing is as as it is. Hey look, they're coming out with it again It's making it to switch and uh, I think they said ps4 as well not ps Not pc though no steam, right? So yeah, you know, um consoles only
Starting point is 03:03:20 But hey, it's coming back. That's cool. Um this game I've you know touched on it a couple times But overall I feel it's all right It's not it's the greatest it doesn't have all the Wild ability you're not going to see combo videos like streets of rage 4 or River city girls coming out of scott pilgrim. It's it's less than the sum of its parts. That's exactly the way I phrased it It is
Starting point is 03:03:50 Made by yeah, I saw that Anna Madagucci Paul robertson right amazing music Amazing sprites and the source material scott pilgrim, of course is really fun So all of these three things coming together are great Uh, but the actual game itself the the the you know the combat the competency of the gameplay is
Starting point is 03:04:15 It's it's all right. It doesn't really shake the world by by by the balls or anything It it you know, it's just a very that that It's a it's a classic but limited beat them up um and Uh, I would not describe it as fun as fuck. I would describe it as all right But the sprites and the music are incredible I would describe it as a really good excuse to create a new elma hanaguchi album. Yeah
Starting point is 03:04:46 A little bit of that as well I I just wish that like, you know the fourth component of that like amazing Meeting of the minds would have been um not Ubisoft but I don't know Dot emu or or or Way forward or
Starting point is 03:05:13 You know yacht club. Yeah You know what my favorite part about scott pilgrim coming back is Hmm getting to see people go You know I don't think scott was a good person guys Did you know I'm sorry. Did somebody miss out on the idea like did you not
Starting point is 03:05:47 The the fucking like they literally spell it out for you in the comic Did someone miss this? Oh, dude, are you serious? There was like a massive scott's an asshole. Hey guys, that's just to let you know Scott pilgrim's not a good person But that's like the point and everyone of like the back and everyone goes. Yeah, that's the back hat like the last three fucking of volumes of six are like Pretty much about that
Starting point is 03:06:18 Yeah He's a bad person just because he's on the cover of the thing doesn't mean I don't what Ah, whatever. He's a he's a bad person The movie is shorter and the movie doesn't explore as much as as the comics do for sure Yeah Scott pilgrim is a bad person and he's not particularly good to women So it's good that ubisoft would bring this game back. Hey, how appropriate I mean, it is interesting how like with each announcement they've got a pretty much
Starting point is 03:06:49 tack something onto it To be like I think they said what did they say? They said like this is the beginning of a journey or something like that. Yeah, well, so Yeah, it's not it's not the it's not the logo everybody wants to see right now But it's attached to fucking everything, isn't it? Including prince of persia Oh, man That game was terrible sands of time is coming back. Oh, man. That was such a wet fart of a fucking announcement
Starting point is 03:07:24 Oh Jesus I What was the jake jillian hall game? That Was the forgotten sands that was based on the movie No, it just came out alongside the movie and it was an original game Yeah, we had nothing to do with it Hmm
Starting point is 03:07:54 Okay Because I wasn't fully paying attention But I thought that forgotten sands was a reboot slash remake of sands of time I feel like it was supposed to have come out before he was wearing the same clothes It was so I thought he was doing sands of time again But if it's something else entirely then I I missed that
Starting point is 03:08:28 Okay, it was something else, you know, what's way more interesting than that game Do you see how they had the ubi forward event? And then before the event they released another video with yve garamote being like listen We're very sorry that our company loves ray. I heard about that Did you see what their explanation for why it wasn't part of their event? No No Timing constraints again Naturally just didn't have time
Starting point is 03:08:58 To put it in the event that we 100 percent control And has no time limit on Oh, the the pre the controlled stream Well, yeah, because the ubi forward was an event that was digital only and it was a stream that they did by themselves then was entirely Like pre-record like there are weird there is a There are rules on when we click the live button and then the stop streaming button Yeah Which led to my favorite interaction. I've ever seen from jeff kealy
Starting point is 03:09:35 Which was the explanation. I just sent it to you. It's the explanation tweet and jeff just going come on Nice Nice it's like Can you guys just stop being total scum for like a second? Well, I think the idea is can we message the people who are really angry? And make the people who don't know anything about this not know anything about this No No, you can't but we really want to
Starting point is 03:10:06 Because I know you really want to I know you don't know about it We I don't want you to know about it and if you do know about it. I want you to know i'm sorry But if you don't know about it, then I want you to know about it more And bad But if you didn't know about it and now you know about it, then you might not like it when I tell you about my new game And then we're gonna we're gonna We're gonna take advantage of that by showing off like a terrible looking prince of perso remake Well, um
Starting point is 03:10:47 French eyes ain't dead Now Would you like to talk about godfall? Yeah, let's talk about godfall I I gave you the option Fuck it. Let's talk about it. Well, you want to talk about godfall Okay Uh, is godfall what?
Starting point is 03:11:18 My brain thought warframe was before I saw warframe Yeah, maybe Did you see the combat trailer? Yeah, I'm watching it right now. Okay Somebody needs to turn the saturation down Oh, look zero sword. Uh, it appears to be three ve Um And
Starting point is 03:11:47 You know, there's some there's some combat happening on screen I don't hate I don't that game is I don't is still in a weird. I don't hate the combat though. I don't hate that I don't hate the slides and the side steps and the dashes and the mobility I feel like we need hands on to know Um, you know, yeah zero from borderlands is how you can use this sword in it Most of the time this game is in a weird place because here's the deal when you see a trailer like this and you go like I need to see um, I need to see it and I need to see gameplay And I'm looking at gameplay and I'm like, yeah, they're moving that does not
Starting point is 03:12:31 Doesn't like the combat looks interesting I will I will I will change the phrase. I need to say see gameplay from I need to see Uninterrupted non highly edited gameplay I All right, let's see more and honestly see isn't even the right word Because I need to actually literally feel it Mm-hmm Agreed
Starting point is 03:13:03 Uh, this this exists in the Uh bizarre category of coverage Where I'm literally looking at it and going this is either a scam or a sleeper hit well like when I when I think about things where the games where the combat is um Not
Starting point is 03:13:31 My favorite, but I'm surprised by what it brought Slash like when the combat is like, oh, that was There was more going on than I expected. It kind of lands in there like I had that feeling with reckoning Uh, I remember Uh, looking I remember when I first touched. Um, what was it called? Uh, absolver I was like, oh, okay. There's some a couple things happening here. That's interesting and um Yeah, it looks like it might land in that like or uh, send you a sacrifice Right where you're like, this is not like the the uh, you know, it's not mountaintop shit
Starting point is 03:14:15 But I'm like, oh, but there's some there's some stuff happening here. That is interesting Um, it feels like it reminds me of that sort of energy, you know and uh Yeah, I'm I'm I would like to see more of what's happening in this in this combat trailer I want to see if it actually ends up feeling consistently like what these these highlights show off because if so then Sleeper hit could be it, you know I'm trying to find uninterrupted footage and I'm having no this this was the reveal. This was the gameplay reveal um, and uh
Starting point is 03:14:52 3ve Is also a format that's that's fun Destiny has made that extremely The next thing You get three three friends. That's the that's the that's the correct number Everybody's got two other friends Mm-hmm Um apex
Starting point is 03:15:23 Uh test your skill that uh solo Or alongside With three versus enemy online co-op play. Yeah. Okay. So I mean it man. I feel I I feel so happy for two snacks. He's his meme is meming up very big now. Have you seen that? Um, which one? The ecum bocum corona thing. No, I didn't it's exploitable to shit Uh I do feel that as far as
Starting point is 03:15:57 Uh, their games go This is the one in the genre that appeals the most to what I'm interested in playing Now this isn't actually made by gearbox, right? This is being published by I thought it was a gearbox game No, no, no, no, no, no. This is uh, this is made by a different company. Give me a second Godfall I believe this is being made by counterplay games. Okay Published by gearbox publishing. Okay, so There's a shot
Starting point is 03:16:31 but as we as we, uh Discussed earlier Bad publisher bad. Mm-hmm So who knows I'm just Uh Generally the My comparison point was to um
Starting point is 03:16:51 Borderlands and uh, uh fucking what's it called? Nover watch Huh, so There were they worked on devs on it worked on destiny shocker And dualist the free-to-play collectible card game Interesting So, yeah, just to say, um in in the full Uh
Starting point is 03:17:23 In the in the video, you know, like if we if we get to see a game that mostly consists of combat Uh on the level of what was teased there, uh, that looks like it could be fun It could be Though i'm looking at this this interview thing that monster hunter is an inspiration. Well, that's a good place to start Cool I hope so all right, what else I certainly hope so, um Because I feel I'll play that yeah, that's what i'm saying right like if it's coming like it's coming with the baggage where you're like, okay, so
Starting point is 03:18:14 uh Just just just based on Where it's coming from it has The fucking weight of the world To to prove Where where you're coming in with a preconceived bias of like i'm already gonna hate this Uh, but if the trailer is is showing me what it's showing me and if it's consistent with that then it's got its fair shot I will probably when that's is that soon
Starting point is 03:18:42 What do we got a bunch of pre-order shit PlayStation uh, oh it's the first announced ps5 to be announced to be announced ps5 I will probably try that out on some kind of they they didn't announce pvp, but um A shocker it's gonna have it Five weapons, okay Uh, yeah, so that's that's pretty much, you know, what's going on The uh one other little thing I wanted to toss in there which I came in at the last second Which I thought was pretty I thought it was pretty cool. Um
Starting point is 03:19:26 You're familiar with mr. Barkley Of shut up and jam fame regional barkley from engineering Um chuck He hangs out in the in the hall deck too much Mr. Chaos dunk himself Oh So you can't just do mr. Barkley because my brain goes star trek immediately Like that
Starting point is 03:19:51 So they've been trying to get charles barkley to be an nba2k for a long time now because they have a bunch of legacy roster uh people that show up and He keeps going now fuck that And uh, all right, then he sat down to do an interview where for um this kid's channel And the guy and he the kid asked him like hey, why aren't you in nba2k? And he basically said because I want I because I I'm I I told them to
Starting point is 03:20:24 Uh Every time they call me every year They call to ask to put him in the game and he keeps telling them not until you start paying All the other old players for their appearances Give old go give the old retired players their million dollars give people give retired players that are not um Currently in the spotlight like that Money for their appearances and then he'll take
Starting point is 03:20:50 Then he'll take the pay and let me say nice talking to you mr. Barkley. We'll talk to you. We'll talk to you again next year Uh and then and then and then when you die we'll talk to your son. Yeah, so uh Charles Charles Barkley is on some king shit. He fucking rules That's uh the madden and uh 2k stuff Has been well, we don't we don't play those. I mean I I'm not gonna speak for you But I definitely have not touched a real-ass sports game in decades. Hey, I've I've I've played nba2k 16 quite a bit
Starting point is 03:21:28 No, that's true. That's true. That's true. That did happen. That did happen. You're right. I was there. Okay Uh, but the fucking uh, the backlash on those is just crazy this year Like they're terrible And they are just they are just the thing that everybody has always said like they're just reskinned last year To the point where if you zoom in on like the madden stands You can see that some of them weren't updated and they're just literally say like madden 2020 instead madden 2021 Like the the EA getting that license is like the worst thing that could ever happen to sports games. It's so bad But yeah, um, that's one of those like super legit things, you know, and uh
Starting point is 03:22:17 Michael Jordan, I remember he he he uh, also was like not around. He wasn't in any of them for a while I think until that one specifically, but uh Get on a good good good shit good shit check Me and then they told they told mr. Jordan that they would run over several children by the car and he was like, all right Who's taking who's taking odds? Mr. Jordan, we will allow you to bet on this childhood vehicular manslaughter Are you in?
Starting point is 03:22:54 Only if he can watch it on an iPad and then create lots of big gifts Uh I'm uh Yeah, so fun story there Michael Jordan is such an asshole. It's why he's the best Is that is that why he's the best it is intrinsically linked to his bestness
Starting point is 03:23:23 I don't know Steph Curry seems like a nice enough guy Ha ha ha ha Without being a piece of shit that brings his high school coach out to the audience 50 years later so he can shit on him in a public forum. You don't think Steph Curry would do that No, I don't think I don't think he would do that Ha ha ha Shit none to none to wash away the the excuse then like here's a decent player who's not like I gotta say though
Starting point is 03:24:05 I will say that Michael Jordan acts like the rich person you fantasize you might become if you won the lottery Just like what if I could just get all those assholes from high school and just throw them in the ocean and then laugh ha ha And then and then Michael Jordan does that Look Ben like oh not everybody who gets to the top is an asshole, but a lot of assholes get to the top You can climb faster if you got your stomping boots. Oh for sure You know and you got to catamari Uh a following of people so that you then have a steady supply of of stompables To hold your position up top
Starting point is 03:24:48 you know That's that's those kids look like good leverage It works works well at the Ellen show Just you know So just fucking you saw have you seen Eric? Have you seen what Eric looks like now? Andre Yeah
Starting point is 03:25:11 Uh uh recently no Okay I know he's coming back though. I'm gonna hit you with this I'm gonna hit you with this now you said you were a fan of slugs Oh Oh wow Oh, that's not Yeah, I guess you can't tweet that can't you you can do whatever you want on twitter
Starting point is 03:25:44 Damn so the So fifth season's in coming by the way. Yeah, I saw I saw the set I saw the set and yeah, he seems to he seems to have taken uh not being the new ellen to heart Hmm Um, he does not have abu grave in the back studio Okay, cool. No, it's out in front. All right with the cast. All right Um, I hope he pretends. It's the ellen show I want people to walk into that set thinking they're going to be on ellen
Starting point is 03:26:20 And Then seeing eric andre and being like fuck I'm on the fucking eric andre show god damn too late. We're already dancing We're already dancing And I hope there's an audience a live audience that are all like middle-aged ellen moms Because because then is is there an audience? To the to the eric andre show no, yeah, it's just the staff. No, there's nothing. It's just the staff
Starting point is 03:26:52 Yeah, it's an empty. Yeah, of course it is. You think they're gonna let a fucking bear out on a set with an audience I don't know. Fuck. Johnny Carson and day letterman. I mean like I think it's quite clear especially when he's like, uh, this bit's not funny anymore I don't really want to do this anymore Or As the bear is fucking that so, you know Rummaging by the way, I sent you uh, I sent you a fucking another tweet and like it's got scenes from the upcoming thing
Starting point is 03:27:25 So the solution to how do you keep getting people in nyc with the eric andre bits? And the answer is I guess total full body stop being stop being eric andre Yeah, he is like the one in this the shot of him in the subway is I like that is a Completely different person you would never be able to tell uh That being said though, um I Now that like he's he's done some interviews
Starting point is 03:27:53 I was listening to him on an interview on on like a show the other day because he had like a new project coming out Uh besides this and he was also like, you know, the devil in um That matt grinding show there on net the netflix one. Um be Whatever was enchanted. I think or whatever. Um Whatever that shit bombed disenchanted Yeah, so so so he uh, so it's like it's
Starting point is 03:28:24 Seeing him in other normal roles kind of like creates a like, all right There's the dude and then there's the character on this show. There's the steven colbert and then there's the steven colbert You know, you get you get a little bit of that. I don't know Uh Eric entree. I remember you ever see him on hot ones No, I don't I haven't really watched hot ones Because hot ones is pretty all right and when he was on hot ones. He's just he was describing um
Starting point is 03:28:54 Like what he was like in high school And he described uh that this one time he saw a girl he liked And said hey check this out and smashed his hands through the fire Uh extinguisher glass and cut his arms up and then held his arms out like jesus and started going And like i'm pretty sure like no he that dude is in there But he's also a professional, but he's also that dude in the same way that hannibal bares is also that dude While still being in there landlord. Yes. Yeah, you know Uh, but the one that really got me that made me feel really really really bad for eric andre more bad than almost any
Starting point is 03:29:41 Known person I can think of Everybody that works in this business has an awkward story where somebody was kind of weird Right, I've run into people that were kind of weird and you got to run away And you have and everybody has but eric says he was in toronto eating a sandwich at a deli And some like 17 year old said holy shit eric andre and ran over and just started kneading him as hard as he could in the back Because it's the eric it's eric andre ha ha And dude's just going like come on man. I'm just trying to i'm trying to eat my what the fuck Is that what happens when you meet chat?
Starting point is 03:30:22 Yeah, that's that's that's what it is isn't it And the weirdest thing about that story is that if I saw eric andre and a camera and could visually recognize It was eric andre. I would turn my ass around and leave Yeah I don't want to be near that shit. No, that's that's that's for the best I don't want a pizza ball. I don't want to meet the octopus I don't want to I don't want to drink from the cereal chalice that is his body
Starting point is 03:30:55 You might end up What with a whole bunch of fucking cereal On you and then after the don't after the bit is filmed He will be very polite and clean it all up and wipe your pants down Like you see him standing on the fucking subway. Was it was it was a cake or whatever? Whatever he was holding That he's done standing on the subway bit on the subway. He's done the the africanized beating and it just Like it's all gonna fall over and like you're gonna get the two seconds for air And then you have the next 20 minutes of him cleaning it up
Starting point is 03:31:35 profusely apologizing to everybody all right I got a question one question one right now. What's your favorite eric andre bit go? It's not real but kicking flavor flavin the face destroys me every time It destroys me every time. Okay, so that's so you know what you know Ironically enough this shows the difference between me and you my favorite favorite eric andre bit is the blind man in the jewelry store bit Where he walks into a real-ass jewelry store takes his cane And just smashes the display case on a bunch of diamonds and just tries to take them
Starting point is 03:32:17 And the security guard fucking just gets them And then it's it the bit instantly cuts and is overlaid with audio of talk to the jewelry store I don't care. I'm not going to jail for this Yeah, yeah, yeah, no that that what do you get there stupid eric? Um you know runners up to Lance reddick and Lance reddick warp speed and and uh, how many babies can you pick up?
Starting point is 03:32:53 What you doing over there cop cop? That's some cool Yeah, yeah I'm gonna go again somewhere in there somewhere in there with a cop Hannibal Um, let's take some email All right, if you want to send in an email send that to castle super beast mail at gmail.com We could talk to you about your email It could be funny. I don't know it could be terrible
Starting point is 03:33:28 What do we got this week? I'm fidget spending in the background if you guys can't tell hello funko pop and funko dorb about two months ago Tight Kubo released a standalone manga called burn the witch It was going to be a standalone single chapter But then a month later a limited run was announced and released in the last chapter their version of the 13 courtyard squad was introduced I think this question has been asked before but it's been a while. Have you recently consumed any media where it was Expanding to become bigger than the original promised
Starting point is 03:34:04 Scale Yeah, you're you bet your ass if someone is making a fucking manga or or or anime thing That's going to get picked up these days. They're going to try to make it Like expandable you have to put those hooks in to try and create a career I've heard it described as the shonen jump problem In that I had my premise I got picked up by shonen here comes Fuck here comes here comes the tournament and here comes all the new characters in the tournament. Yeah every time
Starting point is 03:34:39 you know outward expansion of the world is is how you create a fucking multi-million dollar franchise to a power your your fucking house for the rest of your life and be You know show up in guest games like like fucking Jump whatever I think think dbz might be the ultimate because it's it's
Starting point is 03:35:06 It's the blueprint for everybody and I don't have any ideas here comes the tournament is the spawn of like seven different arcs in dragon ball But also the I don't but here comes the tournament would bring out some characters, but a bunch of nothings And there'd be like one that sticks around or two And then in the end the roster is what it is
Starting point is 03:35:30 But like I think that formula gets much more distilled going forward towards your your your bleaches narutoes and Hunter hunters one pieces, etc. You know I I've not heard anything good about Burn the witch Kind of is sad because now that he's free of bleach Well, you would expect well the question is is like, you know, is there going to be um Is this going to surpass the quality of his previous work?
Starting point is 03:36:08 I don't know man. I don't know what the overall quality of bleach is at Right like What what is the what is the now that bleach is finished take away of bleach? um Yeah I uh Not i'm seeing a lot of bad there. Well, I mean I talked about the fall of bleach not too long ago, but uh Who actually it was a very long people saying it's it sucked after soul society. Wasn't that like 15 years ago?
Starting point is 03:36:39 I tapped out after soul society, so I tapped out. I'm relying on youtube to fill me in after soul society on on what's going on um, did we not also Just talk about uh The kishimoto's new manga Then he made a new manga with um, is it wizards something 13 That's over now
Starting point is 03:37:10 Our wizards the new thing was it samurai eight samurai eight Yeah Oh, isn't that isn't that finish? Yeah, we were talking about how it's being how it's done. It's super done. Yeah. Yeah She got cancelled cancelled so Well, that's that lightning ain't striking twice. It seems What did I say wizard 13?
Starting point is 03:37:37 You did you did say that I'm like he went to some other genre of of of thing. Yeah with a number there we go I got a like the it makes me think honestly of things expanding past their scope I think probably the best example is resident evil Resident evil one's a house Resident evil two it's a city, but really it's a police station, right? Ari three is the city proper Ari four is like an entire small province Ari five is
Starting point is 03:38:11 an entire country Ari Ari six is multiple countries And it's just like fucking stop it. So what do we get for Ari seven? It's a house And hey look it's the best one in a while And Ari Ari eight what oh, it's a it's a village Then Ari nine will be a city and we'll just do the whole fucking thing again Scale it down. I like a good scale down
Starting point is 03:38:44 There's nothing wrong with making your stakes Relatable to a human being. I know I've asked this before but Silent Hill four the room doesn't just stay in the room does it? No, hmm You go out into the the other world through a portal in your bathroom Damn and it's terrible What about the baby head monster? Yeah, that one's pretty that was a really scary monster in one area in the game
Starting point is 03:39:21 Yay, hey woolly it does have the baby head monster, but you know what that game also has A persistent pursuer enemy that's a man with a gun that just shoots you So like gun mr. X Yes His name is walter Okay It's possibly the least Silent Hill thing ever Silent Hill four is one of the only games I can think of where an established team that's done great things
Starting point is 03:39:56 Tries to branch out with new ideas and all I can say is fucking stop. Oh my god And then I said that too strongly and that's what happened and now silent hill is ruined forever Got one coming in from Jake says dear dog father and ahead of the game vtuber After persona for golden came out on steam this year I decided to dip my toes in the persona pool for the first time and fell in love instantly Spent my summer doing two playthroughs of p4 collecting all achievements had a blast decided some to play some other games In the series. I don't own a ps4 looked into emulating uh fests
Starting point is 03:40:33 After wrestling with for a couple with it for a couple hours I got it running and I was immediately interested in the story and characters a couple hours in but I can already tell I'll enjoy this as the ebs out westies full of bangers But some parts of this game have not aged well, especially after four um Lack of ability to control my direct party members in battle Um, yeah, as we said the ai taking control and having to choose what they're gonna do. We yeah, well, all that shit Um, maren fucking karen. There's a couple options to fix this none are ideal. There's a community made hack
Starting point is 03:41:06 For party members, but the hack also disables some items and abilities and breaks and Means I won't be playing the game uh as designed um, I also looked at p3 portable which allows you to pick between femc or mc but The I heard it's missing a handful of other things about the game that I do enjoy When looking up that version of the game to play it seemed the consensus was to start with fest and maybe do a second playthrough on portable
Starting point is 03:41:38 Uh, I'll probably just forge ahead with fest and the community hack, but I've conflicted feelings which they would port their games and Remaster definitive additions. Have you had an experience with a game like this where the mods are hacks fix problems But you have reservations about using them Okay, well first off That's like that's a decent question. Yeah, so first off I
Starting point is 03:42:05 uh Now that punch mom's gone through p5 and p4g At some point She was gonna crack open p3 and I was trying to decide whether or not it should be oh god The warnings have been put in place That's such a stupid awful way to go through that shit. Oh, yeah, but it's the way it is And uh, I was wondering if like portable would be the route to go portable portable because one femc and two
Starting point is 03:42:37 You minimize the running around by turning it into a map Um And who cares about that? It's controlling the party map. You control the party. Yeah. All right. All right You you can't go back to that. So what's missing then? It's too inferior. What's missing, you know Uh, what what's the problem with being able to actually run around in the is that it? Yeah, because I know that and the anime cutscenes The anime cutscenes were replaced with incredibly terrible uh in-engine cutscenes uh
Starting point is 03:43:08 Okay As well as a couple minor features that I don't particularly think matter all that much but the oh and answer is Fuck off. Who cares? Um Yeah, because because that's the one thing is like, you know fest has some But but but also besides the the the the fucking the dated shit on on on like demon fusion and controlling party members um, there's also like Like if she can do like femc for example
Starting point is 03:43:39 That's a whole other series of relationships in the game that I know nothing about I would say femc is like a legitimately better character and more interesting social links than than p3 mc. Okay She's really fun If there was a way to like play If she could like play portable and then No one to go check out a cutscene that'd be ideal Yeah, you you can yeah you that yeah, yeah, but I don't know where the parts are, you know But that would well, I guess you'll just have to just have to be around. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think that that'd probably be the ideal
Starting point is 03:44:18 Uh, the only game that I can think of that would apply to this is uh when winter 2 came out I played it and it was really annoyed by the item limit the weight limit And I don't tend to actually mod out the weight limiting games I try and work within them because I'm like, ah, that's the way they designed it and I Got annoyed around a couple hours in and installed the overnight. I think it was the over 9 000 weight mod Uh And I was like, okay, well I'm just gonna fucking play with this now and then a couple hours in after that
Starting point is 03:44:56 I was like, man, am I ruining the game for myself by playing with this weight mod? I'm gonna take it off And then played it for about 10 more minutes and my inventory filled up and I was like, oh my fucking god This is the worst If you play witcher 2 play with a goddamn inventory weight mod because holy shit Yeah, that shit is terrible Um Yeah, so
Starting point is 03:45:26 Mods where there's reservations Not like like like because I mean obviously shit likes content restored in cotor is is just wildly You have to do it. Um Just flat and perfect the most of the Recently, I guess the the closest thing to this is uh when I was discussing Half-life 2 and uh made the mistake of igniting Some kind of current war between those who are all about m mod and those who are all about the original experience And you should play the original. Well, everyone has opinions and they're very strong and they they yell about them a lot
Starting point is 03:46:05 loudly The argument that I would make woolly is that the mods that are being recommended for half-life 2 are Significantly different and if you want to play the game that came out as it was You will not you will not actually have that experience Yeah, I do I've I've I've heard I've sat there and heard like both sides go at it for a minute and I've drawn my conclusions, but I I did not Know that this was such a powder keg
Starting point is 03:46:43 But yeah Yeah, because because it let me let me put it to you. So the one that the game that I'm the most familiar with In terms of modding is new vegas Followed new vegas, right? there are three There are essentially three ways to play new vegas
Starting point is 03:47:05 It like, you know, there's a million mods you can install, but there's three. There's new vegas I'm gonna play new vegas and maybe you install some bug fixes. You know what it, but it's like vanilla, right? Then you've got what's called the jay Sawyer mod Which is a mod created by the lead? Jonathan Sawyer Wait, Josh Sawyer not Jonathan. Josh Sawyer and it's like listen, this is shit that I wanted to include In the hardcore difficulty option Uh, it's the way I always intended the game to be played
Starting point is 03:47:44 It's it's you know, it is essentially the director's cut of the game, right? Uh, and it does stuff like make weight limits more extreme and makes damage a lot higher and makes it, you know Like the gunfights are a lot shorter that kind of thing, right? And Then you have uh, the community mod, which is called project navada Which is the one that was cultivated and worked on for years and years And is just a shit zillion extra features and all sorts of shit And changes the way the it genuinely improves the way the game is played a lot
Starting point is 03:48:27 And project navada is an explicitly better Version of new vegas. So what's the problem that doesn't play? Anything like new vegas Okay You're divorcing the experience so far From what it was That you wouldn't call it the same game It is it is a new better game that is
Starting point is 03:48:53 Very very different Okay From new vegas. I don't really like project navada I don't really care for it. So if someone is walking in to experience this for the first time You think it would be the wrong move To go for the modded into a different version of the game solution Here's where the arguments get much more extreme with games like this because half life 2 is a 12 to 18 hour game, right?
Starting point is 03:49:25 New vegas is a big fucking game And you're probably not going to play it back to back twice unmodded and modded you're probably going to play it once So then it becomes why wouldn't you play project navada to have the best possible first experience? Right, yes, exactly And if the answer then becomes for people like me, I don't really like some of the changes Okay, because when it came to when it came to Half life 2 after hearing it What the consensus kind of well, it's not a consensus. There was none, but what I concluded is
Starting point is 03:50:09 Play the original so that you experience The flawed classic the same way everyone else has Yeah So that you will have the you will have the knowledge of this according to what everyone else knows and It will be like that version in your head Like currently for example, I have A version of new vegas installed on my pc called viva new vegas
Starting point is 03:50:43 Which is a total conversion mod pack that is made out of 272 mods that people have Like converted into one mega mod that you install via either a 10 hour process or a program called a Wabber Wabba jack Which is has its base on the Sawyer mod And it is fucking different man Like these kinds of things are best in my opinion for hey, man, did you play vanilla and like it?
Starting point is 03:51:18 Do you want a reason to justify to yourself? Of playing through this giant game again That's why I would always recommend some vanilla ish version for everyone Because if you play through half-life 2 and go man half-life 2 is the shit Fuck yeah install whatever the fuck you want on it and go through it again and be like Oh, this is a cool new way to experience knowing that I won't be going through these things again I don't have a problem going either way on it I don't have a problem picking the the superior newer take on something
Starting point is 03:51:50 Knowing that I'm not gonna do that replay You know so like when you eventually tell me pat today's the day I want you to tell me how to turn on new vegas. I'm gonna have to do a bunch of fucking soul searching on that And ask people who aren't me for advice because I don't want to steer you wrong um well You're not not selling me on project nevada It's good you're not not selling me on it It has it has some features that I fucking hate
Starting point is 03:52:25 Like when you put on helmets it can put on a helmet overlay that like fucks your vision up the entire time you have the helmet on I hate that um And a lot of people are gonna probably shit their asses that the number one reason why I don't like project nevada is that It adds a sprint function to the game that you can't use on controller No, because I actually play these games on controller and people don't like well, that's a that's a big that's a big deal for me Yeah, right? That's huge Hmm, okay, well
Starting point is 03:53:02 You know, um, yeah, it's it's it's whatever it's it's just it's gonna be the way it is and I and I understand when I'm coming into something with a Um Like hey, there is not going to be a replay So I'm going to miss this side or that side of the experience or whatever But I've had this discussion me and reggie. We're talking about this actually uh the other day for a while, but like the You know, and I think we touched on it here too with the whole with me and replaying things, but I've come to a state where
Starting point is 03:53:30 Like I do not replace slash rewatch things very often because I would much rather spend that same time experiencing something new I I don't understand you play fighting games all. Yes. That's that's because I'm playing against someone different But that's but bully. That's the same match over. No, no, no, no. I I hear what you're saying. Um Hmm I don't when it comes to something narrative that I'm playing for narrative purposes Then I'm playing I'm looking for a different narrative if I'm playing fighting games. It's not for the narrative Does that make sense? Yeah. All right. Yeah, it was it was just fun. Okay
Starting point is 03:54:06 The narrative is the reason why I'm playing these games If I'm not playing for a narrative if I'm playing chess, then I'm gonna yeah, I'll play chess again and again and again Yeah, so honestly what you're saying right now in the in the new vegas example is a really good reason to not Use project navada because it turns it into way more of a shooter and way less of an rpg You got it you out you got to actually mouse in keyboard to play Yeah, it has it has all these things that make the shooting better and the shooting more accurate and the shooting Uh, like there's a grenade hotkey button and there's a sprint button and there's bullet time and all these things To make the bad shooting better fighting games are just roguelikes
Starting point is 03:54:43 I'm just gonna use my fucking vast button A fighting game is really a roguelike if you think about it Oh, yeah, it's different every time Oh, yeah, oh no mouse and keyboard are uh are a huge Factor there. So we will see um You know Ono was on to something when he put the gems
Starting point is 03:55:06 Into streetfight across deck because that's the most roguelike shit. I can imagine motherfucker. Did you see? did you see the uh knock turn fighting game mod mugen thing I did not someone has a mugen uh, uh knock turn thing running where You take turns doing combos on each other Until you deplete the life bar
Starting point is 03:55:33 So in smt. Nocturne and so the demi fiend is juggling Jack frosts or black frosts And then you continue until you drop the combo. So he does a big old marvel combo and then Drops him down and then it switches to black Frost's turn to do a combo on on the fucking fiend and then they take turns You send that to me or tweet. Yeah, I'll go back and find it. It's it's incredible. I'm like, that's brilliant and turn-based fighting games can absolutely be a thing Little bit of that namco x capcom juice
Starting point is 03:56:15 Don't you mean namco cross cap? I do It's good shit It's good shit. Yeah, we're about to I'll tweet it out in a second. Calm your tits Um, everybody needs to calm their tits. He has to he can only twitter so besides you heard me say it You'll probably find it before then Um, watch the subreddit thread the thing woolly was talking about bam. There it is great Uh, last one Rtx voice and the great dilemma. Hey woolly harrison and notorious pat pat did a decent length demo on rtx voice
Starting point is 03:56:52 Now he has a dog and it has a high pitch random burst sound Uh, why no rtx voice? Well, I don't know about you but I gave a very clear Test stream to rtx voice for a week. We ran it on uh, everything I was lp-ing And the problem was it cut all the background noise out But every time we got excited the noise the the the the shit would peek into gibberish and garbled
Starting point is 03:57:23 like It's definitely not perfect It works as long as we're talking like this right now And as long as we're broadcasting. Yeah, but the moment you get excited and or have two or three people talking at the same time It fucks up and can't handle it. So rtx kills any pop-offs I ran into a very bizarre issue in which rtx would not mute the dog or cat but would mute page damn Like straight up it was it would people who watch those streams can remember
Starting point is 03:58:00 Page was like deleted from like background noise if she tried to talk But the cat screams and the dog's barks would come in no problem. Who's the real animal? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It was there. It was there. It was there It was there. So anyway, I'm not touch anyway. Anyway Um Nothing nothing, honey. Nothing. Don't worry about it You can't hear anything Damn, why don't you turn rtx voice on right now?
Starting point is 03:58:47 Please get me out of there. Please end this podcast Goodbye everybody Goodbye everyone Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh
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