Castle Super Beast - CSB 087: Protect Your Choice To Run Away

Episode Date: September 29, 2020

Download for Mobile | Podcast Preview | Full Timestamps 13 Sentinels, Halo ODST, Virtua Fighter 5, Ultrakill, TGS 2020. You can watch us record the podcast live on twitch.tv/castlesuperbeast Outro:... Into Asgard - BPM Go to http://tile.com/superbeast to shop the Limited Edition Collection right now! -- Go to http://fubotv.com/superbeast for 15% off your first month and a free trial! -- Head to http://babbel.com and use promo code CASTLE to get 3 additional months for FREE! PSA: Genshin Impact installs kernel level anticheat Xbox One X sales rank is up 747% on Amazon Amazon announces Amazon Luna, a new cloud gaming service Balan Wonderworld details main characters, Isle of Tims, enemies and bosses, and local co-op mode NieR Replicant ver.1.22474487139 - Gameplay Demo TGS 2020 Katsuhiro Harada says that Masahiro Sakurai showed a keen interest in their conversation about online features Kunimitsu announced for Tekken 7 Season 4 Resident Evil: Infinite Darkness coming to Netflix in 2021 Sega teases new 'Virtua Fighter x Esports' project Beyond Good & Evil 2 director Michel Ancel denies accusations of toxic mismanagement Sony has started informing retailers of their #PlayStation5 launch day allocation, with some pre-order customers set to miss out on day one

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 Music Music Alright, we got a hot one. You know what's the hot one, man? We got a hot one this week. A hot story or a hot week or what? This week has been full of hot ones. There's a couple of times when I got updates for what was going on in video games this week and I had a spicy face.
Starting point is 00:00:58 A spice face? Yeah. You know what, I thought you were going to start with the fact that, hey, well, congratulations. You saw the exact moment in time that Montreal decided to just shit its own ass and go back in time to April in terms of COVID. Yeah, well, there's definitely that part of things. I was trying to keep it a little bit, you know, not depressing, but we are now fun, fun, fun in the red zone. So that's cool. Danger zone, danger zone, red alert.
Starting point is 00:01:38 You know what my favorite part about that is? I saw that I think might be the most downvoted comment I've ever seen in a podcast thread, which was last week criticizing you and I being like, I don't understand why they're so sad. If people want to have their wedding and endanger themselves, they can do that wedding. Yeah, it's so ridiculous. I've had COVID. It's not that big of a deal. Fast forward. One episode.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Oh, the city's going to go back and lock down again. Probably. Oh, no, you got the shit all over your face, dude. The coffee. It's all gross. Yeah, well, you'll live. No, no, no, no, no, dude. Things and flex and particles on face things.
Starting point is 00:02:31 I can't, man. What the hell? Just. Yeah, there you go. All right. All right. I can't do it. I'm not that.
Starting point is 00:02:42 What? That's so that you have something good tasting to kiss later. Yeah. Are you just are you just MTV baiting now? I don't know. I don't know. Are you just baiting them? Maybe if we meme hard enough, we can get on the TV another time.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Big gross. Well, congrats on that. All right. Thank you. Um, yeah, no, it's, uh, there's a lot going to me about your, your spice face. There's a, there's a lot going down, you know, but I mean, uh, before obviously things like TGS, um, I had to, I forgot. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Yeah. I literally didn't even realize TGS happened until just now. Yeah. What a great TGS. But, uh, before, before even getting into, into what happened on those things. Yeah. I played a couple of games, um, cast a couple of spells, a couple of magic incantations, resurrection spells, you know, the huge what?
Starting point is 00:04:02 What you, what'd you resurrect? Well, uh, that. Right. I don't know if you, I don't know. It remains to see whether or not your resurrection spell was fully successful. You know, to be a case of, uh, put it back and put it back to be fair, to be fair, it might be complete bullshit. It might literally just be a complete nonsense tease for nothing.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Cause yeah, you'd think they'd get more. It was less, it was so much of it was not about the game itself. So, you know, you're talking about virtual fighter. I'm talking about virtual fighter and I'm talking about the little tease, which we'll get into later. But to be honest, if they said we are teasing a documentary telling you about how the, how the scene came together and vented e-sports and did e-sports, that trailer could have accurately, you know, uh, teased that sort of content.
Starting point is 00:05:05 So I'm not going to, um, uh, uh, I'm at the part of virtual fighter, like stock home wife syndrome, but I'm like denial. It's never coming home. Stop taunting me with the idea that it's going to come back. Acceptance. The only, the only, the only step after that is when it does come out and you actively start destroying copies and yelling at people to say, no, this is not real. I have a, in my stream intro, a guy destroys a Sega businessman destroys a copy of virtual
Starting point is 00:05:44 fighter. Has there ever been like a, a hardcore fan of something that is so dedicated to a franchise and its return that it does return and then they actively start destroying the new version? I mean, I, yeah, I guess that, well, whenever the new version is inferior and I guess, you know what, never mind the, the idea, I mean, the no mutants allowed stuff with like fall three. That shit was crazy. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Cause yeah, like, Hey, look, it's DMC don't, don't, Hey, and we're all like, what? Don't, Hey. Nailed it. Kill. Listen, man. I'm basically dead today. I got podcast. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:28 That's, that's, that's what we need. I just, you know, I'm like, I think I've said it before, but the first time Dino was revealed, I was definitely like, what do you, I was like the sadness of like, Oh God, I like this is not what it all becomes was all, I was also like, you're due, I was like, you're doing something interesting here with this character, but what this represents is more tragic than anything that might be interesting. If this were coming out as a, as a completely separate, don't worry about it. The real thing is not dead timeline.
Starting point is 00:07:09 I, the most, the most like tragic thing about all that don't taste stuff was that I remember watching the original trailer like, Oh, this looks cool. What is this? Yeah. Yeah. Like he goes, my name is Dante and my reaction like inverted that it's from, Oh, Hey, this could be cool. There's that.
Starting point is 00:07:31 That's one of them. That's yeah. There's a weird energy to your like, okay, all right, there's something and you see that and you go, why, you know, yeah. And then of course, like the, the, the news stories after the fact, like continued to bury it deeper. But I think that kind of says something about if there was no logo on that and it was just like some random new thing and you'd be like, Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Yeah. All right. Let's see what's going on here. You know, anyway, I can, I can, I can, I can totally, I remember, do you remember when we were in Atlanta and we went to that fucking restaurant that we drove out to the burbs for and we sat down and one of the items on the list was puts in and we're like, what? And Atlanta brought out its finest puts in, which was like these terrible cheese fries. And I'm like, if you had literally called this cheese fries, I would have been like,
Starting point is 00:08:36 Oh, cool. Whatever. But instead I was just like, what the fuck is this? See it's, it's the difference when you see something and it's, it's like, you see this trailer and you're like, okay, I have room on my shelf for some, something interesting in you and you start making some space. And then it's like, no, no, no, no, no, this is coming to replace your old shit. Throw that old shit out and put this there instead.
Starting point is 00:09:02 And then that, that it turns hostile, you know. Anyway, um, that aside, uh, we'll get there a bit later, but yeah, uh, but I had a pretty tell me about video games, a pretty full week. So one, I cracked open the can of ODST, the odds. What's ODST, oh, odds is, man, that game structure is so different from all the other games. It's wild. It's wild.
Starting point is 00:09:39 And, uh, you're still, the, the, the, the, you're still like when the game, when the combat is going, you're still playing Halo. You know what I mean? It's, it's everything you're, you're used to at that point, the same enemies, the same types, you got the same weapons, most of it's going down, but it's just presented with a different flavor. That's, that's it. It's the, the same ingredients, remixed, you know, um, and, uh, I want to say, um,
Starting point is 00:10:05 that, uh, yeah, I appreciate this and reach really trying to give you a completely different feeling while doing what you know at the core gameplay level. It's, uh, it's quite clear from early on in with, uh, with ODST that like, uh, well, one, we're showing you faces, not just helmets, like to be fair, Halo had its supporting cast to, you know, like unhelmeted a lot of the time, but I guess coming out like, I think like there's a lot of like people taking off their helmet and then putting it on after type of thing with the, with the, with the crew. Um, and, uh, yeah, like within the first hour, you're just like, Oh, that might be
Starting point is 00:10:53 like the best music in the entire franchise. I got to wait and see, but it starts out with a score that's like so strong and so different from the rest of the series that you got to, you got to pay attention to it. It's incredible. It's really, really strong. You know, um, a lot of people, I, if there is a jazz to be encountered, I don't think I've encountered it yet because I heard a very beautiful piano theme that happened to have some sacks in it, but just because it has sacks doesn't mean it's jazz, you know.
Starting point is 00:11:30 So that's what that was. It, uh, no, it's, it's, it's, it's a, it's a real ass sacks, you know, I'll tell you that it's powerful, but like it's, it isn't quite like the definition of jazz per se. So, you know, I, I await the one with the, with the Nathan Philbin, that's the one with the fire, the fireflies. Oh, I see. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Yeah. Yeah. Um, and you're working through different time periods and you're trying to figure out, you know, what's going on and who's where, and you're basically in a new Mombasa new Mombasa. It's interesting too. Because you can go ahead. Sorry after you.
Starting point is 00:12:06 No, I was, I was about back. Oh, we're having that moment. Oh, yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. Internet here all bent down and pick up the wallet. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:18 I just, I was about to say there's always like a kind of interest in, hey, remember when all that crazy epic shit was happening where you were doing all the world saving like important shit. What about the grunts? What fucking kind of garbage did they have to go through? Oh man, they had to go through some shit. Even though they're just grunts. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:39 You're, you're dropping in, you're dropping in right as a pivotal moment of Halo two happens. So it actually pegs you in the timeline so that you're going, oh, there's that. Okay. I know exactly when we are. And you, you kind of like, there's that one level in Halo two where you're just, you're on the streets, you know, of, of, uh, new Mombasa and you're doing, you're doing the thing, but then you move on and here, like so much of it is taking place in this location. And so it's like, there's a giant map, for example.
Starting point is 00:13:17 And like, yeah, you're, you're walking back and forth from objectives and waypoints on this map that are being, uh, uh, you know, that are rotating and changing up and stuff like that. And you have multiple ways to get there. It's through, it's a giant city. So, um, already the free formness is, is unexpected and very different, you know, and then there's little roaming bands of covenant that are like making their way through the city and you've got to encounter them with like fully urban, uh, warfare encounter
Starting point is 00:13:49 kind of thing, you know. So that was a weird period where like a bunch of games started to do that where they're like, listen, we don't really want to do a big open world Halo because that would be stupid, which is funny considering. Uh, but let's, let's do like, let's, let's split the difference. Let's have like a, like a, like a small to medium a hub map and then put missions. I think the Wolfenstein game that came out almost the same time had the exact same structure.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Yeah. Um, it's, it's not, it's definitely a mid-sized map and we've been in it for a while now, you know, we've done, we've spent like three or four missions running back and forth throughout it, uh, indoor and outdoors, you know, but, um, yeah, but it's, but it's been all right, although it definitely does also kind of feel like, you know, okay, you can see like how the budget is being spent here. You know, it's, it's, it's less set piece heavy, um, which, you know, again, makes sense. Um, I feel like, uh, yeah, yeah, it ends up, it ends up, um, being so far so good,
Starting point is 00:15:04 you know, and, and you, you have a very different feel to your character where you're not one of those big boys, you're not one of the heavy Spartans, you don't have the extra life bar, you don't have the shields, you know, you just, you're a human, you're a really tough human. There's a part in Witcher two where you like do a flashback when you're talking to somebody and you, you get to feel what gameplay in the Witcher series is like for the average person. And it's fucking terrible. It's so like your, your, your swings are so slow and it's so easy to get your ass kicked by anything. The actual sequence is just miserable, but it's kind of great in that it's like, no, Geralt's like a fucking freak for real. Yeah, you don't, are you getting
Starting point is 00:16:06 that with ODST where you're like, geez, it'd be a lot easier if I was playing as chief right now. Well, you definitely don't get that sense of scale from a first person shooter when you're playing as a, uh, seven foot tall monster, right? As a Spartan two, because it just, your first person and you're just kind of floating through the world. So like, I think, yeah, I think it's interesting how first person can simultaneously be more immersive, but less immersive, because yeah, I remember, uh, uh, seeing like, uh, like some halo event that had like one of those standees, right? This is how tall you'd be compared to a grunt and like a grunt is taller than most people. Yes. Yeah. They're only tiny little little things because like Spartan twos are fucking giant
Starting point is 00:16:59 chungus, you know, like they're big, huge. And then the threes are like your basketball player sized, you know, like you're big for a human, but you can exist in this world, you know, um, your six, five or six, six and above. So you just kind of get into like a ridiculous sense of like, what is everything? How big is ever like brutes are huge, but you, you, anyway, so you're playing as like, is that, is the average person even literally physical capable of picking up the Spartan laser? I'm going to assume no, no, no, you know, and I mean, you know, that's, I guess, I suppose that explains a bit of a retcon finding out that, uh, Johnson was actually a special, special boy, but I didn't like that one as much because I'm like, I liked him being just badass
Starting point is 00:17:55 and regular, you know, sometimes you don't need to have that, that, that back story twist. We don't have to be a bunch of cyborg mutants to kill a bunch of aliens, chief. But yeah, they, uh, actually, uh, but yeah, you're playing as the shock troopers who are very much not that giant sized soldier. You're a person, you know, you got some cool armor on, but it can, it takes its beating and then it's done, you know, so like you have to play a lot. I found I have to play a lot more carefully. I had to like hide and just be like, Oh God, no shields. Okay. You know, and, and, and do what I can with the situation, but it's still so, it's, it's, it's very fun so far. Um, and yeah, you know, cast the characters, we're meeting them one by one. Um, it's, we got to cast the
Starting point is 00:18:42 characters in reach too as well, but that seems very like a different group, you know, so, um, we'll wait and see. So far, so good. And so far, like unbelievable music, unbelievable. Can you believe they fired that guy? Uh, I mean, yeah. Yeah. Well, hey, he sued them. And he won doom, right? Right. Doesn't a little different from that. No, but I just mean like it doesn't matter how situations where you're like, wouldn't you do anything to keep the identity of your music? Because of how important it is to this thing. And so you would think that, but the answer is no, because the ability to do whatever you want and fuck that guy is much more important.
Starting point is 00:19:34 I don't get it, but yeah. Also, Mick Gordon, like just, you know, didn't sign back on again, or as Marty, what's his name? McDonald just got fucking super fired. It's crazy. It's crazy considering the quality of the work. Yeah, I agree. Uh, so got to crack that open. Got to crack that open. Um, as I mentioned, did a magical incantation and, uh, resurrected, uh, the F5, but there was a weird moment when you were streaming that where I was like, oh man, I wish I could play with woolly. I would beat him up and then people were expecting you to deny that. And it's like, no, I get to be better at one game. Yeah, you play the shit out of, you played the shit out of virtual fire.
Starting point is 00:20:23 You're better at, you're better at almost every fighter that we ever put our hands on. But like, I get this one and I even told the story of like, you remember when you came to my house when VF five came out and you beat me like a hundred matches in a row and I was like, but I played so many II matches in the arcade mode and VF four. Well, we played after that and it went very differently. And I would, I would say that it continued to go very differently, you know, for, uh, forever. But the main thing about that was, yeah, uh, one, like truth is truth. It is what it is. But two, like, I didn't tell people the method of, of, of play that we were going to be playing it through. Yeah, because that was kind of depressed.
Starting point is 00:21:11 That's the real, the real story. Because people are like, Oh dude, so should I jump on parsec? How should, what are we going to do? How are we going to do this? And I'm like, friends gather around, let me tell you a tale because this is not, I did not say that this is for glory. We did, we do fucking VF five final showdown and start on the title screen of judgment because this is how you play this game now. That's how you play the game on PSS for or Yakuza. It's the only version of the game. It's kind of crazy because, um, like, you know, it's not, the game is the barest bones version of it. You literally have nothing besides, like you press, you, you boot the game up. You don't even get to press start on a title
Starting point is 00:21:55 screen before it just shoots you into the, the, the character select and, um, you pause the game and you can only set your buttons. There's nothing else. It's the most bare bones version of it ever. Yet still it's every character in every stage. So can't really complain. You know, it's, it's, it's a wild ass bonus, but yeah, like no port, excuse me, no, just, I can't believe they never even bothered to port it, but this is welcome to the same world as, as jet set radio. You know, the one where you port, they ported jet set radio original, just not future for whatever reason. Like, you know what my, you know what my, I feel realistic desire for that esports virtual thing is, is just like Virtua Fighter five final showdown E and it's a version of the game that has like
Starting point is 00:22:56 spectator support or whatever for the new consoles. Yeah, we just, we dropped it on steam and we added net play with like rollback and it's, here it is, you know, play it. I mean, it's, it looks so mid-auts now, you know, the, the, the model quality, the faces, the stages, everything. Oh, it's retro now. It's crazy. You know, it, it, it, I remember, I remember being blown away by some of those stages and the lighting and the bloom, you know, and, and just to come back to it and be like, holy fuck, okay, we see the age here. And, and, and like the, probably the most telling part of the story is if you really want to know how Sega feels about this game, just realize that you have to select it from a menu called mini games. And that menu is its item number two surrounded by
Starting point is 00:23:55 fighting vipers and Puyo Puyo. So this is what it is to them. It's a mini game on the likes of Puyo Puyo and fucking fighting vipers, dude. So yeah, yeah, that's, you know, ah, anyway, so upsetting. I imagine the esports thing is basically because, uh, arcades are dying even in Japan and they need somewhere for virtual fighter to go live. Well, you say that, but it's not 100% the case. Arcades in Japan aren't dying. They're becoming something else. They're becoming hyper specialized with different genres of games. Um, your, your, your fate card printer games are taking over by a large margin and not an arcade game. God damn it. That's just a casino now. And your, your, um, your, your Gundam X versus machines and your, uh, Gunslinger Stratos and
Starting point is 00:25:02 that other game where you're, you're piloting a full suit thing. Like the thing, the games where people are bringing their cards and lining up to play them all the time, you know, like those things are doing, those things are doing quite well. Like I understand what you're saying, but at the same time I have this feeling in my gut that's like, like when I look at, when you say, well, arcades aren't dying, they're just turning into casinos and theme parks, which are not arcades, right? I kind of still feel like they're dying because like, of course it makes sense to like, Hey, have that rotating Gundam thing and that Gunslinger Stratos thing there because you're, boy, you're going to play that rotating or shit
Starting point is 00:25:44 at home. Of course not. Okay. But also if every arcade in Japan is like a PIP of HP, it's going to take many, many, many hits for the word dying to take a couple hits, you know, to actually hit zero. I mean, it's, it's dude, there's people that are basically running contracts with these, with these, these arcades where like businessmen that have been coming there from childhood that are now in their fifties are coming in smoking and putting a significant amount of time into playing Street Fighter Super Turbo and that's it. And they're, they're going to spend their time there. They're going to put their quarters, their yen in the machines and like they're putting a solid amount of change into these machines every week. And,
Starting point is 00:26:43 and this is their lifestyle. That's not going to, that money's going to be taken, you know, like they're not going to deny those people their games. They keep those machines in tip top shape because as long as the, you know, the salarymen are coming to play them, that's money, you know, you want to talk about the impression that they were like still on the way out. They're on the way out globally in general as a trend. But I mean, you just like, the new era of arcade games is like, like you said, there's gacha stuff. There's gambling stuff. Then there's, then there's the stuff that like I said, it's just like big cabinet experiences, gun con and, and, and piloting. But like, yeah, it's, it's, it's just, it's getting a little bit
Starting point is 00:27:37 more about that. Top floor is always going to be Purikura, you know, but they're around and people are walking in and they're making money. It's just what they're making money on might not necessarily be the side by side cabinets that we're used to, or the, even the, the, you know, the rows and rows of candy cabs and the Astro City stuff. But yeah, that's what's going on. That's what's going on. So we touched on virtual fighter five, touched on the rumblefish to another arcade only game that was for the autonomous wave. And I kind of got to teach people a little bit about the history of, I like that arcade board. Yeah, it's, it's an interesting one, man. There's some, there's some, it represents an era right after Naomi, but before 2009, right? Before Street Fighter four and
Starting point is 00:28:31 Battle Fantasia came to the Taito type X two. So the Taito type X two is the current era of, of arcade games. And, and then there was your Capcom CPS boards, one, two and three, Naomi was huge. And like the in between era when shit was fading away, CVS two came 2002, put on the spine of the fucking thing, 2D will never die. Right. We lived through over here, we lived through an era of Mortal Kombat, deadly Alliance deception and Armageddon, the Mid-Oz, the dead years, but the autonomous wave did exist, you know, and on it we got, there was guilty gear on that. There was the rumblefish, there was a couple games. Hell, even KOF 11, KOF 11, KOF before, before 11, they did Neo wave to test the waters,
Starting point is 00:29:25 you know. So anyway, we talked about all that stuff in the episode. It was a good time. I kind of just gave some arcade history there. And yeah, got to enjoy the rumblefish as one of the weird standout games where that is 2D, but vector sprite, vector sprite display. So everything is, it looks like lower res, but like much smoother in animation and things like clothing damage and face damage. If you get beat up and injuries and stuff like that, all display on the characters. And it ends up looking like just an expensive flash game almost, you know, but it's, but it's charming in its own way. So I appreciate that game. Check it out. Once that episode drops, I took a swerve over to FPS town
Starting point is 00:30:27 and I jumped in on BPM. Have you tried BPM yet? I actually specifically, so I'm doing the roguelike kick. Yeah. So I had to put it to like days of the week instead of like a month long because I looked at the list and the list was like 40 plus games, right? I'm like, I don't think I'm going to blow my entire October and most of November on this. So we'll just do like Wednesdays, but I looked at BPM and while it seems cool, that game is like the saturation on that is just eye searing. The whole thing is kind of golden yellow. It's very orange, orange, golden, weirdest palettes ever seen in a game. Yeah. It is, it is a bit of a strange decision. I don't mind it because it ends up like, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:17 it ends up being fine, but there is a aspect where that bothers me a lot when it comes to finding statues on the walls because certain rooms have little statues you can pray to to get power ups and they're very easily missable considering all of the games, you know, yeah, like all of the colors just kind of blend in together. They don't stand out that much. I really don't understand the purpose of making a game that is like this and be like one color. Not sure. Not sure. It was, you know, going for a stylistic thing. Oh, somebody in the chat who I would trust their opinion actually points out that it's possible that they had a limited budget and bought most of the assets. I mean, and therefore the color helps
Starting point is 00:32:12 obfuscate that perhaps. I mean, if you're going by things like the title screen and stuff like that, it definitely seems like, you know, it didn't, it probably didn't have a gigantic budget. But when it comes down to how it how it sounds and how it plays, it's very fun. It is like, how it sounds is much more important, probably the most important. It ends. It ends up being the kind of roguelike that's almost like following Isaac rules identically in a lot of ways where, you know, you drop, what is that? I don't know. You drop into a room in the basement and you see a thing and then it's like, go in one of these four directions. It might lead to this type of room or that type of room. And if you get lucky,
Starting point is 00:33:03 in this type of room, you might have this little extra thing you can do or not. Or this is a door that if you go through it, it's going to cost you some life, you know? So as per the title, bullets per minute, it is rhythm as you shoot. So if you do an action that is not on the beat, it's kind of like Crypt of the Neckard dancer. You will fail to do that action. So you can move and jump whenever you want, but everything else has to be on the beat for it to work. And in some cases, if you do it on the beat or the half beat, you will get extra. So you can jump whenever you want, but if you double jump on the half beat, you can double jump. Right. If you dash on the beat, you can dash as many times as you want in the air.
Starting point is 00:33:56 If you shoot, shoot, shoot, you got to reload and you got to reload on the beat and different guns have different reload amounts, I should say. And it's like the shooting to the beat is such a cool satisfying element to it, but you got to keep the fucking rhythm up. And if you don't got the rhythm, you're going to have some trouble. I think that like it also like games that require you to sync up with the music do need to have like audio lag options and things like that. And this doesn't have any yet. I hope it does get some because I know Neckard dancer again was able to you know, compensate for lag on different screens and things like that. Here you just kind of go right in, but I just played Rocksmith. So I do know that like lag is a thing you still got to
Starting point is 00:34:48 worry about on modern TVs. If you're using HDMI display, it's not a problem that's gone away, you know, so hopefully they add that in. But yeah, there's a feeling once you're in the flow, absolutely of like emptying, you know, every single bullet and then reloading with the basic pistol. It's two steps. It's bullets in the hand, slap them in the gun, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, you know, then you get a shotgun and a shotgun is going to have a reload between every shot. So boom, boom, boom, boom, you know, like and you got to you have a, you can shoot less frequently, but as, but if you, if you're reloading properly, you get that whole thing going and generally I've gotten to try at least like three or four
Starting point is 00:35:38 different guns now and it seems like, yeah, the more powerful the gun, the longer you got to deal with a reload animation slash the more steps there are to it, you know. There was a crazy, really strong gun I got where you shoot it, you pull the trigger and it fires a beat later. So you pull the trigger and it opens up and then you aim afterwards and then it annihilates with a hit scan, you know, but you, it's an anticipatory trigger pull. It's, it's such an interesting thing and like it takes a second to wrap your head around it, but it worked like I was doing really well with that gun by seeing a situation about to go down, pull the trigger preemptively, then move into position and take care of it.
Starting point is 00:36:31 As the name implies, beats per minute, bullets per minute is, is yeah, every gun you get is going to have a completely different feel and flow to it. I made it to, I made it to the second boss, I have, I've done a couple of runs, gotten a different, different flows to it. Second boss, I haven't beaten them yet, but it seems like there's about seven, maybe six or seven different rooms and therefore songs you're going to go through before you get to some sort of final area. But yeah, like I said, visually, you know, it's, it's, it's got that, it's got that weird look to it, but there's a bunch of weapons, there's like 17, but like the flow of each gun so far has felt really cool. The dashing to the beat feels really good, you know, like strafing and
Starting point is 00:37:25 by the end you're kind of like, you're, you're having doom like first person shooter experiences where, you know, you're really kiting a bunch of bullshit around a room and air dashing between obstacles and dashing over things and you're going kind of nuts with it, you know, so yeah, BPM is really great. You should check it out. I went immediately, what's up? I may in fact check that. Do that, do that. And to keep that fucking high going, I went immediately into ultra kill right after. Man, I forgot to talk about ultra kill like a week and a half ago and I feel stupid. I was just thinking about ultra kill where you're talking about BPM. I'm like, damn it. Talking about BPM
Starting point is 00:38:16 makes me want to talk about ultra kill. How, uh, how far did you get? I got, I think about 10 levels in maybe 15 levels in because, uh, so we pop on ultra kill, right? And, uh, Hakita shows up. So, uh, not unlike, uh, what you mentioned before when I guess new blood came out to troll you. Um, but the thing is, is that I gave this an earnest shot because I started BPM with the cube out with the mouse and keyboard going. Right. I said, let me try this and I gave my first maybe five shots playing mouse and keyboard, WASDA, and everyone saw how utterly unbelievably bad I was at it. Like not, it just, I couldn't play the video game. It was, it was really, really rough. Um, I kind of said, Hey, I got this controller here. This is the back down
Starting point is 00:39:24 in case it's necessary. I think I'm going to have to do this because otherwise there's going to be no content tonight. And, uh, I turned the controller on and, and you know, uh, what, what happens, right? Immediately it's like you fucking coward. And I'm like, okay, I get it. I understand. Right. You want me to do it the way you do it. So I put the controller down and we went back in for more mouse and keyboard. So I, I think I spend about the first 30% maybe, maybe 30% of the video of the session doing it pure mouse and keyboard went back in, gave it an honest try, did as best as I could. Um, you know, I can survive if I like position myself in a way where I like, I move into a safe space, a safe space, stop moving, shoot at the things and it just the demands
Starting point is 00:40:21 of shooting on the rhythm and dodging and living and surviving while also learning how to drive with my with the keyboard might be a fairly extreme way to start that, but considering it adds another level of input complexity. It does. It does. And it's not a very, it's not a particularly easy game. Like BPM is, you know, it's kind of throwing it's, it's fucking, it's ass at you because you get four, you start with four pips of life, right? Like you get hit four times and that's the end of your run. So it's asking you to be pretty good at, at first person shooters, all things considered, you know, but whatever. Um, you know, I get it. It's, it is what it is. I, I, I bring this up, expect, I bring this up while I'm already putting my, my rolling,
Starting point is 00:41:07 my fucking sleeping bag under the bus. I understand what the situation is, but I'm just letting live now. Yeah. But I'm just letting everyone know that like, you know, I, I'm giving this an honest shot with mouse and keyboard and it was unsatisfactory to me, to you, to everyone. It is painful to watch. And in the end, I'm like, let me just grab the controller. And I did. And then the game actually started and then we were actually able to play and live and have fun. So, um, at that point, uh, you know, jumping into ultra kill. Uh, boy, all I can say is like, you know, it's very clear the aesthetic and the mood they want to go for right away. Like fuck you. Hell is full. We're going. Uh, but the level of
Starting point is 00:41:59 like genius design behind some of these weapons, dude, I was quoted earlier this year saying, I think meat hook is my favorite shotgun of all time and the year is not even up. And I'm already recanting that statement. Do you remember the meat hook? Is it, is it called meat hook? Or are you talking about the doom shotgun? The doom eternal shotgun that has a meat hook attachment. Yeah. No, that thing's incredible. It's sick. It's what you want your shotgun to do.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Bring you closer to the thing and light it on fire. Why not? Give me some ammo. What if instead you got a shotgun that if you, if you pumped it too many times, it explodes and kills you. Okay. But did you know, did you know that the dash has invincibility frames? I did not. Did you know that if you pump the shotgun too many times and get the explosive shot and invincibility back dash out of the way, you can avoid the damage? I did not know that.
Starting point is 00:43:17 So instantly I learned that tech and was using it to mop the floor with like those skulls, for example, they go down like, bitch, if you blow them the fuck up with the overcharged shotgun, but you got a dash out of the way. So now you start basically going for almost like plinked inputs where you've got to, you got to be firing in the middle of your dash because if you start back dashing, let's say peak jump, you don't have enough momentum going to get out of the way in time. If you back, if you start back dashing and then you shoot, you will just get out of the way of the explosion and avoid the damage.
Starting point is 00:43:59 And the damage is half life, by the way. So if you do it twice, you're dead. Oh yeah. So that is, for example, an amazing level of tech that applies to the game right away. And the game is full of small hallways and corridors. It's full of very tight rooms, but you've got amazing speed and maneuverability. So you can be anywhere in that room. You want to be within a second. You just have to have the control for it.
Starting point is 00:44:29 You know, so that, for example, is how you would use that, that shotgun. For me, it has every weapon in ultra kill has a fucking style switch on it. So that's the secondary shotgun mode. The default shotgun is boom, boom shot, right? Which creates a big bloody explosion and blood heals you like Bloodborne. So you want to be right up in them. The incentive to be close is not just because it's a shotgun, but it's also because that's where the blood is going to be to heal you.
Starting point is 00:45:02 So that's wonderful. Second, you have a secondary fire on it, which is a grenade launcher, right? And the longer you charge it, the further it fires. So you get a pretty nice grenade launcher built into a shotgun, which means you now have close and mid range covered. However, by any chance, did you happen to press the punch button at the same time as pulling the trigger? I did.
Starting point is 00:45:39 It's pretty good. That was the moment I said, all right, meat hook. It was nice, but I think it's time for me to move on. And I turned back to look at the other shotgun walking behind and I let go of meat hooks hand because when you shoot the shotgun and you punch immediately after you pull the trigger, you punch the shells into an explosion that travels wherever your fist aimed it. So you can shoot punch to get an amplified shotgun blast
Starting point is 00:46:20 that turns into a detonation. It's the raddest shit in the fucking world. It's so incredibly cool. I'm kind of shocked that that's the one you gravitated towards because the one that I personally found like the most impressive was a tie between the other two weapons. Oh, yeah, which was a nail gun that is a more or less a machine gun. Yeah, but that you fire off bolts that magnetize
Starting point is 00:46:48 and then all the nails remain in the environment and fly around between magnetized points. So holy shit. So style A on the rail gun is what you just described. And the crazy thing about the magnetized points is their mines that you control. So you deploy the mines and you have as many as you want. You deploy the mines in the environment and then the nails track towards them. So if you want to curve your situation, you throw it,
Starting point is 00:47:24 you shoot the mine around the corner, run around and then shoot forward and they'll start tracking to that location. Whatever is in the way is going to get melted. At that location, the nails will continue to oscillate on the spot as a bundle, like a catamari of damage. Anything that touches that is going to take all the damage from all the bullets that are still floating in the air. Okay, now you have this catamari of nail bullets.
Starting point is 00:47:53 That's just, it's an, it's a yoga catastrophe, right? It's just like, it's an orb of damage that's floating in the environment. Now we're going to throw another magnetism mine on the ground and it will start floating and orbiting between these two points back and forth as they have equal points. You've basically created a tripwire. You've created, it's more than a tripwire, it's a death field for whatever walks into that.
Starting point is 00:48:25 So now you put down three points and it starts rotating in a circle. And now your brain- I also did the thing where I would put the nail in a big enemy that I didn't like. Yes. And then I would, as I circle strafed, I would just manage to make sure to get every enemy I could in between me and the big one. Exactly. So that it would just fire into them and they get stuck on
Starting point is 00:48:50 big boy and then eventually explode and make no mistake. Like the amount of time you spent spitting these bullets out, you're not going to fucking lose it because it took them, it took a second to build up that big damage ball. So now your big damage ball is your little pet that's going to roll with you. So when the big boy dies, because he can't handle all those fucking nails, you make sure to spit out another magnet mine to make sure that the big ball of bullets always has somewhere to go.
Starting point is 00:49:24 So you're not done with the room yet, you throw another thing out and it's going to follow you everywhere you throw one of those mines out. So you're kiting, as you're shooting everything, you're kiting this giant ball of bullets around the room and swinging it into whatever comes your way. And I think you get like four points out at a time that it's going to start moving in between. It's unbelievable and it's unlike any other first person gun skill
Starting point is 00:49:51 I've had to use in any other game. It's pretty goddamn unique. Like there's been a lot of good secondary fires, but that's just like... Now that's out there. Yeah, and that's just style one. Style two is machine turret, just overheat. You want to put out a lot of nails right now?
Starting point is 00:50:10 Do you want to delete what you're looking at? All right, all right. Press this, overheat. And it makes a little elevator beep, you know? Very nice. And then I mean it would be a crime if we didn't talk about the secondary pistol, right? Secondary...
Starting point is 00:50:31 Probably out of all of them I found was the most useful in the most situations. Not on a controller though. Yeah, that one is what I would call a controller antagonistic combat option. It's so cool yet so anti-controller in its design because the secondary fire, it almost feels like an overwatch ability, really. But it's air in black. It's what you're doing is you flip a coin out into the air and if you shoot it,
Starting point is 00:51:13 the bullet ricochets off of it into whatever is nearby and the bullet does more damage. Okay, now you can flip two, three, four coins into the air at the same time. And as long as coins are out and you shoot one, it's going to ricochet between all of them, increase damage each time until the final one is a super shot. So if you do flip coins between enemies and position it nicely, you can get that free damage as it goes from one to the other. But as long as you get that final one, you get big fucking damage.
Starting point is 00:51:56 So that's not even what I was using it for. I was using it for a situation that I can't remember a pistol ever allowing me in any game, which is when you hit the coin with your shot, it always hits the weak point of whatever is closest to you. Specifically, like a headshot or even a bullseye. It's really specific. There are some of those guys, those melee guys you fight later on in purgatory that are a lot tougher than everything else you've been fighting so far.
Starting point is 00:52:28 And if the coin hits them in the face, they explode instantly and die. You don't even have to fight them. And they chain reaction. But more importantly than that is that it's the only weapon that allows you to just run straight away. Throw the coin out and fire it at the coin, and the coin will fire directly behind you and hit weak points. Oh, shit, I didn't even think of that. That's rad.
Starting point is 00:52:57 So you're in those situations where you're like, there is a lot of shit in this room. There's a lot of bad man's in this room. And I just want to run around and double jump and get away. But whenever you have the ability to look straight ahead and run for three feet, just toss a coin and don't even alter your aim. Just aim up a little bit and pop it. And weak spot.
Starting point is 00:53:22 Whatever is behind you will just die. Fuck, okay. So there you go, right? You got shit like that going on. Like there's skill to every style on every weapon that you can master, you know? And I love seeing that potential right away with the guns that you get. And you get a fucked out of them really quickly. I had six by the end of that session.
Starting point is 00:53:54 So then you just start getting the mechanics. Yeah, as I mentioned, the Hakita showed up the dev and kind of explained some other cool shit. Like you have a death from above attack, right? You can super drop onto enemies. Now when you hold it, it creates a shockwave. If you super drop and then jump, you get a higher jump. But also that shockwave, yes. So you get like a boom, boom and you super jump, right?
Starting point is 00:54:30 So you can get to higher spaces. But the shockwave that you emit launches enemies into the air. So if you super drop, you launch the enemies with the shockwave and then super jump above them, you're now doing an aerial rave. Yeah, that's pretty great. So you're creating this like ridiculous air combo situation. And by the way, all of this and we neglected to mention that the game has a style meter. Yep.
Starting point is 00:55:04 So you're styling on everything and it's ranking you and you're going from D all the way up to triple S. And then when you get to triple S, you then hit ultra kill and you maintain that fucking ultra kill for as long as possible. And you have enough tools to do so. Unbelievable. This game is so, so good and it is only in early access. Yeah, how far did you get? I got to V2.
Starting point is 00:55:38 That's exactly where I got to two. And then I played for, I want to say over an hour after that and was like, all right. I'm not beating this tonight V2, which is the, which is, yeah, I beat him. Oh yeah. Yeah, I found, I found some tech. What was the solution? To be fair, I was playing at like 330 in the morning and I was like, oh, but Johns, by the way, uh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:08 So what I would, I tried all sorts of shit. I tried like slide dueling him with shotgun, you know, it's funny running away. It's funny. You say that because like I actually, uh, was quitting right before that level. And then, uh, everyone in the world screams, no, no, no, the next level. Do it, do it, do it, do the next one. And it was 12 something and like we were dead because the AC stopped working. And like, we were fucking dying and I'm like, I've, it's been a full ass
Starting point is 00:56:44 like session. I, I can't, I'm so dead guys. And they're like, no, you can't, you fucking can't. So I was like, all right. And then we did it. And then like we're solving the puzzles and we hit that little witness mini game. Did you hit that man? That thing is way harder and more in depth than it had any right to be.
Starting point is 00:57:07 It was a real area of the witness. They just, yeah, he just threw in a fucking witness mini game. Did you find the horror game? Uh, no, we just did the witness one. There's a secret level in the first, uh, series of missions that is like a, like a fucking invincible enemy runaway horror monster survival horror game. Damn, no, I didn't see it. But, but, but like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:32 So interestingly, you get like your first little rival battle early on in, and it's a really cool fight against, you know, the yellow, uh, the yellow guy. Sword machine. And then, uh, V2 shows up and you get this real ass one on one. And what it kind of came down to is if you lay in with the magnet rail gun shots, it does, it does melt, but he gets pushed so high up into the sky that his charged laser shots can't be dodged anymore. Right.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Oh, so you basically have to, uh, enter, you have to switch between like laying in the damage. And then when he gets too high up, let him fall back down and then use shotgun to point blank, get some life back, and then punch shotgun shells, you know? So switch between those two essentially. And then like, uh, but don't let him get his laser shot off once you're, once you, once he's too high up in the sky. Cause yeah, like it just, for whatever reason, keeping him like fucking aerial raved,
Starting point is 00:58:43 just creates a situation that you cannot dodge from, you know? Uh, unbelievable, really, really fucking sick. And that was like, yeah, area one, four, I want to say, or like, yeah, one, one, four. So early in the fucking game, you get this incredible thing. I don't know what the, what the dev schedule is. I don't know when it's going to be out of early access, but right now what I got was some of the most promising shit. And, uh, yeah, new blood, uh, fucking putting out some, some rad here.
Starting point is 00:59:14 I, I have to really give props to new blood for, uh, every dev I've ever dealt with them, uh, which I deal with them a lot more than I deal with most devs in that I deal with them at all. But like I had a moment last week or two weeks ago where I was like, ah, this, this mission runs like shit on my big fancy video card. And like the CEOs, like maybe your computer bed and like you shut up, you make your games good. And then I was later contacted by one of the devs who said, did this build fix it? I'm like, what? I was like, okay, I'll download this fucking dev build of ultra kill.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Be like, yes, this did fix the particle slowdown issue. There you go. Okay. It's so interesting. You're welcome, everyone. Dude, it's early enough that there's no controller prompts or options in the game, but it does support pad. And yeah, when my turning reticle was too slow, I turned up the mouse speed and then it turned
Starting point is 01:00:17 up the speed for the controller as well because it's, it's your mouse. Yeah. Um, upon beating V two, he drops an item like your previous boy did. And, uh, you pick it up and it's pretty much the note that I just that we had to go on, but you pick it up and it's a big old robot arm. And when you press the robot arm, it does a thing that is very important to me. I'm a fan of a show called the big Oh, it's a really cool robot. It's a really cool art style, but most importantly, when the big Oh punches you,
Starting point is 01:01:03 it has a pile bunker like extension and release of a point black point blank shotgun like explosion from the fist. Um, we've seen, we've seen similar in the likes of a maxima from King of Fighters with the exploding fist punch. Punch the fucking fist hits and then a second recoil shotgun explosion comes out of it. Like we're done here. Here you go, buddy. We're done here.
Starting point is 01:01:38 You know, so, um, I, I just, I am blown away that like every single weapon has been utterly rad in the first six and then seven that they give you, and it has great one-on-ones great style, just a game loop that really is aware of what the style meter like exists for. If the style meter exists in a game that doesn't really let you be stylish, then it's just a bit of a fucking wank, isn't it? Yeah. Can you think of other games that have had a style meter meter meter recently? I can't think of any off the top of my head, but my memory is a little shot right now.
Starting point is 01:02:33 A character came to League of Legends that has a style meter. Oh, that's true. They do. She has a gun and a sword and, um, I was like, oh, that's an interesting design. She's cool. She's ab girl. Let's see what's going on. And it, I don't know League of Legends well, right?
Starting point is 01:02:51 So it's hard to really put together what stylish means in that context, but I didn't. Like, is it just alternating between the three abilities that the character has that creates style? No, it's alternating between the abilities and actually hitting those abilities. Okay. Okay. Because in your MOBA, if you're actually like juking around and, and shooting the guy, you know, anything that's not instant target that has to travel at all,
Starting point is 01:03:30 there's a high likelihood that the guy will also want to, uh, move out of the way of your fireball or whatever the fuck it happens. Now, is there anything you're doing that is like risky, but otherwise difficult with her that you would not do with regular characters? I haven't, I haven't actually seen any of her gameplay, so I wouldn't be able to tell you. Okay. Cause I guess, I guess I don't know enough to understand what I was looking at when I saw her style meter going up.
Starting point is 01:04:00 So I was like, okay, I guess what I'm saying is I looked at it and I saw the game plan. I'm like, it looks like she's doing what you're supposed to do in this game. And I guess as long as you do it, you know, sustained, you're going to get that, that going up. I feel not to say that ultra kill doesn't have that, but in ultra kill, when you take all the things that we were just describing and you start piecing them together into a situation where you can skate dash into a room, punch something for blood, jump air of death from above, launch a bunch of grunts, super jump into the air, take a couple of them out, switch to the coins, toss a couple, bop, bop, bop, punch, shotgun, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:04:46 And you just start managing the room in this crazy ongoing sort of flow to it. You're kind of like, it's the loop that doom is asking you to do in doom eternal, especially, but you can feel where the style meter is judging you and why? Oh, absolutely. My favorite thing I've done so far in the game is using the coin shot to kill one of the melee guys that will explode after dragging them into the biggest group in the world and they will chain explosions and you go from zero to ultra kill. So I, I got zero to ultra kill by hitting a room full of bullshit with the back dash full charge shotgun. Yeah, right. That's that's that's another like example of that for example. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:48 And also shout outs to your your your Ornstein and smoke moments with the statues. Well, they I just have a thought. Are is Tony Hawk the first character action game? Style meter. Yeah. As it works a little different. It's not quite a style meter. The rule set that was established was like don't to get points. You must vary it up and keep it consistent. Okay, so you're building meter, right? But it's not a style meter in the sense of your points are being displayed with it's meter in the sense of you use it to do specials, right? So it's a it's meter in the more literal sense of the word. No, wait, because Tony Hawk style meter point near doesn't have
Starting point is 01:06:51 time rank decay. That's the key. It your points go away if you fuck up. But yeah, as but if the combo stops and the combo stops, but there's no such thing as no points going on. You're either increasing points or you've stopped points. There's no decay on the points. There is that there is that you do the same moves over and over and you get less points for it. Oh my God, I saw the most cursed Tony Hawk shit. There's a bunch of challenges in the Tony Hawk one plus two that are like get millions and millions of points. And like the best way to do it is to make a custom map that is like a square of grinds that will all naturally touch each other.
Starting point is 01:07:54 And for you to just jump and grind spam it just as fast as humanly possible. Yeah. In the old games, dude, the easiest way to make points was to just grind in circles on a pipe on a pool and then jump out and start manualing when the balance became untenable. You know, it was just you want to get a quick 150k in one in one set, like just do that, you know, plants as well, anything that goes into stalls, balances and lip tricks. Um, it's funny you brought that up because like I was going to just lightly touch on the fact that I fucking installed and started playing Tony Hawk one plus two. And I, hey, it's good. It's quite good. And I was I was floored by the introduction of a new style. I didn't know that there was a new
Starting point is 01:08:51 era from the world of street or vert skating. You can now do park, which is master of both. That was quite surprising. Sounds perfect. Yeah. Yeah. It was, I guess it represents the modern era of Nero's that are that are all coming post Tony and just killing it. I played, I played that game for about five minutes without the music on just to see. I felt anxious. Okay. So here's how bad, here's how bad the music situation is, dude. Not only is all the old music back in and amazing when you hear it and you've got a skip track button to just shuffle to another track, but like there's a bunch of new music in it. And half of what I've heard so far is incredible.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Half of the new tracks I've heard are super good. And I was like, fuck me. Not only are we missing out on the old classics, but the new shit bangs as well. And, and, and you can't even appreciate that. I was so mad. It's so crazy to see like after a bunch of bad Tony Hawk games, this one comes out and is kind of perfect. It's like the Urh Hawk. Like after what was Tony Hawk five or six or whatever the fucking one that we did the video on five were just scrambling for content because it's so ass. I was worried. I was legitimately worried about the music situation and it's like,
Starting point is 01:10:43 it's better than I could have imagined. I was like creating almost everything back and then they added like 20 new good shits. I'm creating my character and just like going, oh my god, what the fuck is the name and I look in the corner and I'm like, yeah, that's some new shit. Good new shit, you know, new skaters in there, you know, Riley Hawk is in. So son of Tony, long may he reign. Yeah, just so far fucking it's, it's perfect so far, you know, I'll find out a little bit more. But yeah, that, that music situation is, is, is fucking criminal and there's very little you can do about it. And I had some cute ideas, but I feel like they don't work because remember how I talked about, oh, remember all the Gundam music? Just play
Starting point is 01:11:30 some eight bit themes. Well, it turns out YouTube fucking doesn't like that either because covers are no good. So the whole Gundam video is demonetized. So that's a freebie. Every YouTube is so much fun. Did you see Susie put up her fucking third birthday? Yes. Did you see the nightmare she had to endure trying to put up that fucking review? Well, not only, uh, am I aware of that? She had to ask me what I did. Oh yeah, that's right. Because what happened was is so she put up her third birthday review. Yeah. And um, her, uh, the ending kept getting the, the, the fucking video just blocked in every cut, like not content, not just blocked. And then I was talking to her about I'm like, that's pretty funny. They don't want you to show everybody the worst ending to a game ever. And
Starting point is 01:12:30 she's like, I don't get it. I even, I reversed it and I put this fucking filter on it and I'm like, oh man, did you ever see the stupid shit Woolly had to do with his fucking Naruto crap? It was unwatchable. And I guess she must have contacted you after that. Well, yeah. Like how did, how did you make your unwatchable shit work on YouTube? Well, you brought up that. So you brought up Naruto as an example, but I fucking played third birthday, dude. Oh, that's true. Of course you played third birthday. I experienced all of that on the cutscenes of everything in the game. The whole thing is shit. The whole game is like, I'm like, fuck off. Let me dunk on your stupid game idiots. You know, it was, it was, uh, every cutscene. Um, so yeah, we totally had to like, let them know
Starting point is 01:13:22 what happened and like, you know, men, God bless. He figured out the best way to like, circumvent this shit. It was so much trouble in the end that it wasn't worth it, but you just, you have to absolutely fuck with things on a shot to shot basis, blurring the fuck out of things here, making things unrecognizable there and just throwing it off so hard that like, it seems to know if you have applied a consistency to your distortion. So if your distortion keeps changing or going away entirely, you have a better shot because it's more random than if you were to consistently do a set of steps and, and morph the whole thing that, that way. If that makes any fucking sense. Yeah. It's, it's almost like it learns. So you have to keep it guessing, you know, um,
Starting point is 01:14:15 and all for that incredible, incredible ending. So yeah, I just, we kind of, we, you know, I let her know what men did to, to fucking circumvent it and, you know, like that's, that's what it takes, man, because they, they're censoring the, they don't, they won't let you do it. They won't let you fucking talk about the third birthday. Check out that, that review. It's incredible. It's an hour long. Yo, the art, the art of her carrying a is, oh, it's great. Like, oh my god. But it's funny because there was one detail that I, I, I was totally unaware of and just because I wasn't paying attention. It's like, dude, third birthday and other M came out the same year. Oh word. Oh my god. Are you a confident blonde woman with a gun in a Japanese video game? No, you're not.
Starting point is 01:15:17 Did you ever notice how much Sarah Bryant looks like zero suits, Samus. Like 110% might as well be the same character. The outfit. It's not, it's not the same shade of blue, but you can't unsee it. When did zero suit Samus show up? Um, was it zero mission? I, I can't remember if it was zero mission or if it was just brawl. I want to say zero mission. People are saying like 2004 ish, zero mission. Cause like
Starting point is 01:15:55 Sarah's from, I want to say like 95, 96, like, I'm pretty sure Sarah Bryant just is Samus. You know, I mean, we had green haired space lady for Justin Bailey before that. And then we had and then we had comic versions and I, and then we had the, um, the true endings in, um, in, in the true endings in, um, uh, uh, uh, uh, fusion showed her in a different suit. Same hair, same face, different body outfit. But then the, the blue tights kind of came in in zero mission. Well, um, I mean, hey, uh, yeah, the timing on that is pretty wild, but all things considered, uh, Samus lived.
Starting point is 01:16:58 Aya didn't. Samus got to live, that's right. Well, anyway, Tony Hawk, good shit. Yeah, Tony Hawk's pretty good. Also, Tony Hawk's pretty good. I appreciated that. You see, what? I'll, no, you finish your thing.
Starting point is 01:17:21 Oh no, just I appreciated that, like going back in and creating my character. And I was like, oh yeah, like I get to put in my realistic like stance, you know, I'm like, okay, you put your, put your goofy, do you, do you go mongo, never mongo, all that shit. And it's just like big ass warning that it's like warning once you put these things in, you can never fucking change them. And I'm just like, never, you can't never ungoofy. You can never ungoofy. You can never go sometimes mongo.
Starting point is 01:17:49 Like what are we doing or mongo after switch? Absolutely not the fuck. Never. These are life choices that you were committed to forever. You must die and start again. Oh, and by the way, uh, for those of you who want to know the exact title of the video that Susie put out, it's on Sphere Hunter and it's called how, uh, how the third birthday killed Parasite Eve, which it's super dead.
Starting point is 01:18:15 That fucking shit is so dead metaphorically, literally, uh, emotionally, emotionally, and I'm going to go ahead and say like metaphysically. Yeah. Yeah, it's bad. On an ethereal level. I, I, I'm going to stand by the end of that LP, which is like there is no greater character assassination in video games. And I would stand to say fiction.
Starting point is 01:18:59 Okay, I need to ask an important question and I'm sure I asked you this when we talked about it, when you had just beaten it, but I need to know because it's, it's the burning question every time I talk about this game, which is worse about Parasite Eve, the third birthday. Sorry, it's not even Parasite Eve. It's just the third birthday. Is it the most crazy character assassination ever ever, ever, ever, or is the fact that the game is looking at you, the player, and you're standing in a room and then it pulls the rug out from under you points at you're being fallen and goes, ha, ha, I tricked you, you're a
Starting point is 01:19:40 petto. Well, this is a petto. Well, point B contributes to point A. Okay. All right. Point B is part of the reason why point A is so fucked. And I have never, I can't even imagine because another medium that has actually done that. It's so crazy.
Starting point is 01:20:03 If we were to just stop at the assassination of the character and the complete wanton slaughter of like anything you liked about this franchise, that would be one thing that you could probably compare to every other franchise, but it ain't about that. It's about the part where the fucking aftermath of the dance on her corpse, unless we forget the wedding ring, the second wedding ring that he puts on, because I guess you'll have to do like I feel so bad. Let me hold on a second.
Starting point is 01:21:00 Airside Eve. All right. That LP went up on January 19th of 2015. So I'd like to apologize to you. Woolly saying to you in the year 2015 men, you know, it's a great game. Parasite. That was post third birthday, which mean, which means I delivered this fate unto you. You know how in most cases you can say that like the highs of a great series are worth it
Starting point is 01:21:37 and just don't like you can ignore the lows and just join the sadness, you know? Yeah. I've been playing games recently where it's a bit like, oh, Paper Mario, what a great game. Yeah, just don't focus too much on where it went, you know? It's like, man, Battlestar Galactica is a great show except for the literal final three or four episodes. Parasite Eve is a game. It's a franchise where like if you don't get to ignore third birthday, it's actually debatable
Starting point is 01:22:12 whether or not it's worth the journey to start. Oh, yeah. If I game, if you live in a world where you don't get to ignore the third birthday, if you do, then we can make this work. But if you had to experience the third birthday, it might actually make the entire endeavor not worth it. Yeah, because it's like Parasite Eve is not quite as good as one. It's like an eight instead of a 10.
Starting point is 01:22:39 And then fucking third birthday is like a two. And it's like, why did I even start this journey? You know, someday there might be a time when you could watch Game of Thrones seasons one to five part of six and then jump over to the book. Be like, wow, man. And it won't make a ton of sense. Adapted this. It won't make a ton of sense because a bunch of random shit will be happening.
Starting point is 01:23:06 And you're like, who the fuck is this lady? Lady Raven, Darth Talon, blood, anger, stark. And why is she a zombie killer, lady? And everyone will be like, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. But, but. Yeah, there's just nothing left to be done or said about a Brea. Who?
Starting point is 01:23:33 Oh, yo, tell me about fucking 13 Sentinels. I've been thinking so every now and then it happens that there is a game that I'm legitimately very, very excited to talk not just on the podcast, but with you specifically Woolly. However. I have to be like, not just because you're sensitive about spoilers, right? You're on the, you're on the, like the, the, the less information side of the spoiler like dichotomy. But also because. I'm just going to start by saying nothing I talk about today, say for one detail that
Starting point is 01:24:21 happens five minutes afterwards is out of the prologue. Okay. Right. So the prologue is about three hours and it runs you through seven of the 13 characters as the set up to your story. Okay. Right. 13 Sentinels is the new vanilla wear joint and unlike almost every single one of their games,
Starting point is 01:24:44 it is not a beat them up. It's not even an RPG like I think Grimoire was, it is a visual novel boy does vanilla wears talents lend itself incredibly well to a visual novel. They've always had that great art with the sprite stretching technology. Right. That they use that apparently only they know how to do. If I remember correctly, you did not super enjoy their previous games. I really love Odensphere, but hate it because it becomes complete bullshit.
Starting point is 01:25:22 At the end, this is true. But they fixed it later, but yeah, they did live to ourselves like a much better game. Okay. Um, uh, I thought Abora Muramasa was just like one gameplay element shy of being like really great. Yep. I think Dragon's Crown is aces.
Starting point is 01:25:39 I would have probably have loved Grand Nights history, but it never came out here. But every like presentation has always been vanilla wears strongest suit. And the their presentation in terms of 2D is probably the strongest of any company ever. It's so ridiculous. Having them go into a genre that is 95% people talking on front of 2D backgrounds. Good choice. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:26:13 Because every single screenshot in the entire game is an immaculate painting. Um, it's so ridiculously beautiful at all elements. The voice acting is great. Both the dub and the sub are both fantastic. I've actually been playing with the dub. The localization is aces. It's like it's much better localized than say persona five. Okay.
Starting point is 01:26:43 And then you get to the gameplay and the story like presentation. You can just go look at it. Right. I don't really need to say anymore. But you have gameplay and your story and your story in a visual novel is more or less reading and then picking paths. Right. It's a slightly more complex choose your own adventure.
Starting point is 01:27:09 Uh, which I will get to in just a little bit. The gameplay is actually basically real time strategy front mission. So when and so there's there is combat then there's a lot of combat. I would say about 40% of the game is combat. Okay. So here's the deal. If you look at footage of 13 Sentinels, you will likely like I did a stream of it. You can go pull that up.
Starting point is 01:27:44 Pat stairs at 13 Sentinels just to like see what the fuck I'm talking about. You will see that combat is very low budget. Right. It is like a polygonal like grid like computer screen. It looks like you're looking like at a sci-fi movies battle map. Okay. Yeah. Or something like that.
Starting point is 01:28:07 Yeah. And your characters and the enemies are just represented by almost Atari level 3D blocks. Okay. Like they are. It's just it's a tactical representation of what's actually happening. It is absolutely like it has a bunch of filters on it. And like the fires on the buildings are giant pixels of flame kind of thing. And it has a bunch of cool UI elements, but it is very simple.
Starting point is 01:28:36 And I look at that and I get really disappointed because I would love for the game to look like advanced wars, but with vanilla ware or fire emblem or front mission, but vanilla ware. But vanilla ware is small and broke. And that was never in the cards. Right. When you look at dragon's crown, like as amazing as it was, the biggest weakness of it was the repetition due to the size of how much they could make for it and the and the genre. A beat them up is always going to be repetitive.
Starting point is 01:29:18 So I felt like they had a couple of screens they could show you and a couple of characters and monsters you can interact with and beat up and like that was the end of it. Then they just had to remix what those things are doing. But when a visual novel is kind of like on its sleeve, honest about that, that makes perfect sense for it. Yeah. What you're describing. So they came up with and this is a weird thing because I this is the type of staff
Starting point is 01:29:45 member that almost never gets like props in a in development sense. But the producer that made the decisions that led to the way the game looks in its battle sequences is a genius because I'm sure they went to the point where they're like, do we have money to animate all these big robots? No, of course not. No. So what they do is that you'll have say a carabes generation to Sentinel and it will be a tiny little circle on the map and his turn will come up and the turn will have attack,
Starting point is 01:30:20 move, defend, repair, you know, the usual. And when you select him, the first thing that comes up on the right side of the screen is a wireframe look of the entire design of the robot top to bottom. And you go, okay, that's fine. But then when you click on attack, you select from your attack. So in the tutorial, he has heavy knuckle, which is some punches. He has some arm mounted machine guns and he has some multi rocket launchers. The solution to how do we do these fancy animations with vanilla wear level class,
Starting point is 01:30:53 but no money is that when you mouse over, say our mountain machine guns, and I'm going to send you a screenshot from my stream, well, in the right side of the screen, it plays the high end fancy vanilla wear animation of the robot doing the fucking thing. It just doesn't show it against a monster. It shows this is what that attack would look like. And it does that for everything. And then when you see the enemy force, you see them as a still image in the battle scenes, but then you interact with them constantly moving in cool ways in the story scenes.
Starting point is 01:31:38 And the end result is that even though this is a frankly cheap looking battle system, after about an hour and a half, I had totally disassociated from what I was actually looking at. And I would be hitting leap attack and you would see the leap on the right side. And it was mentally used. It was mentally picturing it. Yes. And it works.
Starting point is 01:32:05 So it really works. This I want to say that this is the magic of how Earthbound and obviously later Undertale are successful, too, by showing you a portrait of the enemy and then just describing what you're doing to it. Crack as you hit it with the back, you know, like there's a like there's a good example with one of the anti armor melee moves is one of some of the generation ones have just arms that are just saw blades. And they're like 10 saw blades in a row.
Starting point is 01:32:44 And when you mouse over the demolisher button, the animation is like the the fucking robot doing a hook towards the camera. Yeah. Every single blade starts to spin up and flash and you're like, OK, now I know exactly what this is supposed to be when I use this move on what looks like a space invader block. It's it's crazy as to how it actually works. It is actually a lot more similar to front mission.
Starting point is 01:33:13 That's probably the easiest way that I can come up with it. Every single mission is based offense. You have waves coming in to kill a terminal or a base. And you are stacking up your team of 13, usually as six defense and six offense like one on the, you know, casual front mission gameplay is still fucking incredible. That's really good. And the biggest difference is that instead of a grid, it is you're always in cities. So you're going down city streets.
Starting point is 01:33:51 So it's lanes, except for the flyers that can go anywhere. OK. And that it is in real time. Now, however, it's real time in the sense is that, you know, your character's turn will build up and then once they're selectable, time stops so that you can do your shit, or you can just pause it whenever you want. How next gen are the graphics in your head, though? Are you running extremely?
Starting point is 01:34:13 You're running a 3080 in there. Oh, yeah, dude, it's crazy. The gameplay is great. It has it has unlockable pilot skills. It has unlockable passives. It has like it's easily comparable to front mission. It's not nearly as in depth, but it is great for what it is, which is a break from hours and hours of visual noveling.
Starting point is 01:34:37 So mentally, I was preparing for students in a classroom talking to each other as the background is a painting. And that's it. And I was I was that's a lot. I'm down. I'm OK with that. So here's the thing. I spoke about this briefly on Twitter last night and I mean it with no exaggeration.
Starting point is 01:35:03 And really, I struggle for you to come up with anything. This is the craziest story I have ever seen in a game. No, it's the craziest story I have ever seen. It is more ambitious and more out there than Eva or Xeno gears or like cloud outlets. So stupid in comparison, it is so out there and the big thing is that 13 sentinels in all of its promotional material did not tell you is that this is a game about. About time travel. This is a time travel game more than it is a robot game.
Starting point is 01:35:57 OK, so you go through you go through the prologue and the first moment in the game the late like press start is character runs up. Monsters are attacking. You know, the dramatic start of the they're attacking Kazumi Cho or Kabuki Cho, whatever hit the robot jump in the robot. It's go time, right? That is the last thing that happens in the game story. The all the battles are the ending.
Starting point is 01:36:39 Everything before that, the all the visual novel is the lead up to the battles that you are already fighting. Oh my God, OK, OK, all right. So that's the start. That is the the the dead ass premise. OK, OK, right. You then go into step. These are just the first two hours.
Starting point is 01:37:03 OK. OK. I'm a hero, you eat type. Am I who I think I am? Are the pills they are the pills? They are giving me wiping my memory. Did I accidentally summon a robot due to a character that looks like he's from the Second World War touching me and hitting me with nanomachines only for a character to
Starting point is 01:37:28 magically wipe my memory. That cat just told me that I need to use this gun to kill witches. E.T. Just straight up E.T. Character looking dead ass at the screen going, hey, guys, do you like Terminator? OK, just have you ever read War of the Worlds? That shit's weird. Oh, no, it's a tripod.
Starting point is 01:38:00 OK. Or am I the right person in this timeline? Are you from the future? Am I from the past? Just every half hour was jaw drop. What is going on? Who is this? What is happening?
Starting point is 01:38:20 And this is session one. That was session one. OK. All right. All right. Done. A cat calling me a dumb bitch because I because I question whether or not the gun I have is a magic gun that in fact kills witches.
Starting point is 01:38:44 I and a cat maybe Lucifer. That was something I didn't expect to see within an hour of starting the game. Believe it or not, I like some of my favorite like one of my favorite feelings is when the amazing super rad badass Mecca is an afterthought. To fucking trivial. Cares like I'm super down for that when the rest of what's happening is so interesting. And it's like, by the way, we've got these, you know, people are mentioning like, wait, is that a Madoka Magica reference?
Starting point is 01:39:25 And the fact that the cat says, what would you prefer a frilly pranks, frilly pink skirt and a magic wand? And the fact that he's telling this to, I believe the Madoka character who had guns, like the act, the voice actress in both languages. Yes, I'm pretty sure that is a Madoka reference. Um, just and it probably the most surprising from a studio like vanilla where did not expect a sequence in which a time displaced World War two soldier is having to overcome the fact that he's crazy in lust with a non binary female presenting character.
Starting point is 01:40:18 Didn't didn't think that was going to be on the docket. Cool. And for them to go, okay, whatever about my dick, I need to go back in time and prevent the atomic holocaust of the end of the Second World War. I don't care about this robot shit. Okay, um, the game's also super horny because it's a vanilla where, well, yeah, it has to be. It's it's it's out of control like horny. It's it's almost upsetting.
Starting point is 01:40:52 I mean, listen, I think George Kami Tommy laid his thesis out on day one and has not diverted from it or since. Hey, Willie, did you know that when you got in the robot, it it deletes your clothes? Oh, oh, oh, fuck. Okay. Damn it. All right, we're going there. All right.
Starting point is 01:41:15 All right, because because you have to be interfaced with it and you have to be like riding it like a motorcycle. It's basically the same position the the people in that other trigger anime was the bad one. I was about to ask you if you've seen zero one in in god that fucking thing darling in the Franks darling in the Franks if you've seen the ass pilots. Have you seen the ass pilots? I've seen it. I've seen it.
Starting point is 01:41:40 You've got to you've got to literally put your hands on the two left and right controllers of the ass. It's important. All right. Oh Christ. I forgot part of the tutorial where an idol starts talking to a character through his TV and it looked that's a character looks just like Yosuke. Okay. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:42:01 I meant zero three. My bad. Anyway, so that is every check mark, including the check marks that I didn't have in the box for this game. There's a bunch of invisible check marks down here. So the last thing that also the story is incredible. It's not just crazy. It's it's it's great.
Starting point is 01:42:24 I'm shocked that vanilla where had writing people like this the whole time. But the last thing I want to say is the level of complexity that the game is dealing with does throw you a bone and that bone is a super in depth like cut scene rewatcher that has 14 sections to it. One for each character and goes, okay, here's the events in order, right, that you've seen. And most of them will be question marks for most of the game, right? And then the 14th one is all events. It might be the most confusing event viewer I've ever seen because with the amount of time
Starting point is 01:43:05 travel that's in the game, the game's plot can't go forward in time. It actually has to follow the plot according to characters perspectives. So Odin's fear also did time fuckery, but just in terms of like we have these five characters that need to get ready for Ragnarok, right? And you jump around to different points and then set up what happened before. Um, I don't want to ask any questions because I have, I have many. No, I just want to go. So the confusion, it has to go by character perspective.
Starting point is 01:43:44 Yeah. So you'll have three events in a row that are sequential in terms of plot. Here's air quotes and they're 2025, 1985, 1944. So, so this is and those are sequential plot points. So this is, this is what I'm saying, right? So the only thing I want to ask here because anything else is dangerous is at, do you have a screen that you look at that has dates on it? No, but every event has the date on it.
Starting point is 01:44:20 Okay. Every, when you never, you never, you never lean back and zoom out and go. Well, no, events. No, because the amount of time travel involved means that if you saw a linear path forward, it would actually be completely nonsensical. Okay. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 01:44:39 It would make no sense. Okay. And there's a really good situation after you've beat the prologue where you beat a bunch of battles and it goes, you are not allowed to see the rest of the battles until you see event one. Okay. And I'm like, okay. And then I saw event one and I'm like, I can't, what the fuck is going on in this game?
Starting point is 01:45:05 Shout outs to looper, shout outs to primer, shout outs to back to the future. So I originally considered doing like an LP of this on stream and I was warned not to. And then I played it for a couple hours and I will now warn everyone else to, you know, watch it, watch my stream of the tutorial or watch the first two hours or whatever. But after that, don't even talk to people about this game. Don't even let people know you are playing it. Woolly, if you start to play it at some point in the future, don't talk about it. It's one of those.
Starting point is 01:45:56 Don't talk about it. It has become extraordinarily clear the more I play the game that there are about a dozen one sentence things that you could say that would just go kneecap this 10% kneecap that 5%. We're like 13. However, it's also the kind of game that you could tell me a real spoiler and I wouldn't know whether or not to believe you at the breadth of stupid shit that has occurred. Okay.
Starting point is 01:46:28 It has gone for every sci-fi influence I can think of. So the shit is so wild that it's hyperspoilable, but also the impossible to spoil the breadth of the context is insurmountable, I suppose. All right. Okay. So all the crazy shit I talked about was the first two hours. The game is like 30 hours long. I'm 25% through and I think I know what's happening.
Starting point is 01:47:01 But I bet I totally don't because I'm only 25%. They're like, I gotta say it makes me a bit sad to hear though that that part of it, the landmine nature of it because excited as I am for this, it's one of those things where I know vanillaware games. So I absolutely wanted to make sure. My biggest concern was going to be a potential repetitive situation. I don't expect them to make the mistakes they did with Odin Sphere on Remade again. But like I said, Dragon's Crown did have a little bit of that towards the end.
Starting point is 01:47:39 So I was a bit like, I was concerned about like how repetitive things might get or if there's something that would just be kind of like downtime or rough. But here this is. Yeah, you can choose at like with a significant amount of freedom, how much of the gameplay you want to do before going back to the visual novel. There are lock-in points, right? There are points where you get to a character's story and it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no. You must beat this mission before you can watch this part of this character's story.
Starting point is 01:48:14 And then it'll and then you'll get to the battles and it's like, you must have viewed this event in order to see it. And there are conditions that are like, you can't continue with the World War II guy until you see Kenji's poisoning event. And I don't know what that is. Okay. Interesting. Stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:48:34 Yeah, this definitely is something that I was really, really curious about. Like it's about possibly LP-ing. What I'm hearing is that it kind of reminds me of how Danganronpa rules, where like Danganronpa is also very, very spoilable. Seeing as it is a series of murder mysteries, you know. So how do you even talk about where you're at in a game like that? You actually literally can't talk about where you're at because there are 13 characters you play as and they all have percentages on their storylines.
Starting point is 01:49:14 But almost every character is inside the other character stories. Right? So, and I have played about 25%. I have played through one sequence out of the dozen of chapters that I've played, in which I was playing a different character in a scene I had already seen. 99% of them are completely unique scenes that happened in between moments of other character stories. Okay.
Starting point is 01:49:50 So, just by sheer nature of an audience that might say things, playing that, playing it live is a problem. Oh yeah. Okay, all right. Oh yeah. All right. I have a small anecdote about it where I decided to hit up Laura Post because she plays a Takamiya's character who's the Tsukabon girl.
Starting point is 01:50:27 And I'm like, Laura, do you understand, be honest, do you understand this game's plot? You are one of the 13 characters, main characters. Do you know what's going on? And she laughed and said, no, absolutely not. Because the nature of voice acting is that they recorded their own lines for their parts and nothing else, which means that at a maximum, any particular voice actor has about 9% of the total story, which must look like nonsense to them. It must look like complete garbage.
Starting point is 01:51:17 I think the way that she described it is, you know, you ask your voice director, what's happening in this scene? What am I doing? And she described that the director would go, okay, I'll try, but... Well, you know how everyone that works with Kojima talks about his scripts where they're like, I don't understand what this man is doing, but somehow he's a genius, right? Yeah. So I think that we've seen that before, but anyway, I guess it makes sense why
Starting point is 01:51:58 Videl Aware has been so quiet for so long. Yeah. There's nothing in this game to show. I'm afraid to go back and see trailers that I have already seen. Interesting. Interesting. Do you remember the trailers were like really short? They were like...
Starting point is 01:52:19 Kids walking around, kids walking around, and then... They had no dialogue in any of the trailers? And then I saw a robot and I went, oh, and that was it. And I was like, okay, and then key art. They put out key art as their promotional shit. They had a big render as doing most of the, please look at our game. Okay. It's why it's like there was almost no dialogue.
Starting point is 01:52:48 It was just like the characters would be moving and then you would see the robot, and you wouldn't even see the gameplay, and they'd be like 50 seconds long. So word of mouth has to do the job this time. Word of mouth is important. Go buy this game if you got a PS4 and you have any interest in cool story games. I do. And don't tell your friends that you're playing it. Oh, you're playing it on PS4?
Starting point is 01:53:12 Yeah, it's the only system it's out on. Oh, really? Okay. Okay. Yeah. Interesting. It's incredible. It's so good.
Starting point is 01:53:23 It's very, very high quality game. I also played earlier in this week because I'm doing that roguelike thing. I played a game called Going Under that came out, which is, have you seen this thing? I'm looking at it. I'm looking it up. It is a roguelike that takes place in totally not Seattle and is about being an intern for a tech startup.
Starting point is 01:53:57 Okay. And then you get there and you're like, I have a marketing degree. So what if your office was in Donut County? Yeah. And they're like, that's cool. You get us coffee and also kill the goblins in the basement. It's cute.
Starting point is 01:54:15 The game is, the game's strongest element is it's riding by far because it is just taking the piss out of the modern office experience. Hold on. I didn't hear anything you just said because when I pulled it up, when I pulled it up, my phone took over my headphones. Oh, no. What I was saying is the game's writing is incredible. Okay.
Starting point is 01:54:44 And it is, it is just, it's so on point with office dystopia that I had people leaving my stream because they couldn't handle it. The first enemy force you're fighting is- Wasn't that the start of Outer Worlds? It is. It is the first hour of Outer Worlds just blown out to the Mth degree. Okay. So like the first enemy force you're fighting is the goblins who are desperate for bathroom breaks
Starting point is 01:55:22 but can't because the boss, the caffeinator is working them nonstop. And once you beat that, there's a cutscene where the CEO shows up to explain that they're doing the live app and describes how, oh, don't worry about it. The 10 for one or so in the tech department will just handle it. And the only lead engineer on staff just starts having a meltdown. This kind of sounds like a caroblaster where the creator of Cave Story, Pixel, made a game about this poor little frog that gets bossed around by aliens that speak a different language and he can't understand them but they suddenly come over and just start
Starting point is 01:56:10 abusing him and taking all his shit and he's got to work for them. And like probably my favorite, like my favorite gag so far in the game is the second dungeon is against zombies and you go, okay, well, what do they do? And you get down into the sticks coin level and it's skeletons wearing mining gear coming at you. And then you're attacked by a chain chomp made entirely out of blocks. And I'm like, am I fighting the motherfucking block chain right now? Oh my god, this is the, this is the worst. This is the worst I hate this.
Starting point is 01:57:02 Interesting. It's pretty good. Interesting. All right, that's fun. It's depressing. It's a depressing game. But it's very cute. It's very cute, but it's like, I've never worked in an office and I'm like near like
Starting point is 01:57:19 retching at its, at its just dystopic undertones. If you were a person who works in an office, this is either the funniest thing in the world or just cry your eyes out depressing because it's your future. Yeah, I, I've got way too many of that to wait too many of those memories and actually committed the commit by committed them to podcast form and talked about some of that shit. So that's, that's actually interesting timing hearing about this because I just finished talking about some of the crazy QA shit I've done in a good old WWF IO episode.
Starting point is 01:58:06 Like the loot drops that you will occasionally get in a level are the Amazon drone package nightmares that will come down and drop it. And they often call your character by the wrong name. Okay. And the best, the best one that you can get is the bougie cube. That usually has a really good weapon in it. The bougie cube. That's right.
Starting point is 01:58:38 B O U G I E. Yeah. Yeah. The delivery cube of the bourgeoisie. Of course. Of course. Here for you, it's, it's fucking crazy. Is that, was that a roguelike as well?
Starting point is 01:58:54 Yeah, it is. Okay. It's really cute. The art style is really unique. And honestly, it plays about, I've been playing a lot of these. It plays about as different as any of them. Like it is probably the most different because it feels almost like Breath of the Wild. Like you Z target and like hop around like it's a Zelda game.
Starting point is 01:59:16 Well, and you, and you like throw items as a button. Feel free to use that segue that you've just placed on the ground. Yeah. Mm hmm. About Breath of the Wild. Yeah, what about it? Oh, are you referring to the new game Genshin Impact? That would be the one.
Starting point is 01:59:41 The one that I asked you if we had ads for this week that we don't? Well, you know, the reason I asked you that is not because I was going to talk about it. It's because I was like, oh, every one of my timeline is downloading this. I should download it. And then I found out about 10 minutes later. Hey, wait a second. This has a kernel level anti cheat that doesn't turn off until you restart your computer. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:07 So the alternate name for Genshin Impact is MiHoYo Protect because that's what's running at the kernel level. And that's no good. That's no good. In fact, so people are saying they're removing it. I wait to see. It's in fact identical to what Valorant just did. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:34 That we talked about when it first came out. It's the same shit. Wow. Don't do it, guys. Great. Not on mobile though, huh? Yeah. Well, all right.
Starting point is 02:00:48 Yeah, not on anything other than the PC. For those who, for those of you who don't understand what that means exactly, essentially it is taking BIOS level priority of control of your system in the sense that the anti cheat technology boots up before Windows does and is something that cannot be turned off when the game is not running at any time at all. And who wants to trust a company with that level of infiltration into your system? No one should. Did you know the Genshin Impact is from a Chinese company?
Starting point is 02:01:34 I did. You did not? I did. You did. You did. I did too. So it's the kind of thing, if they remove it, I'll give it a shot. People are saying they're removing it.
Starting point is 02:01:45 I don't know. I haven't been able to find any news of it being removed it. Removing anti-cheat. Let's just Google it. Let's just Google it right now. Is it from China? Oh, yeah. Oh, five hours ago about our anti-cheat system.
Starting point is 02:02:03 I think it might actually be from Taiwan. Oh, is it from Taiwan? The country known as Taiwan. That's the one, in fact. That is a real country. I think it might actually be from Taiwan. That's weird. Taiwan.
Starting point is 02:02:23 How do you pronounce it? Taiwan? Tai-Wan. Uh-huh. T-A-I-W-A-N. That's crazy. Might be from there. Might be, is it?
Starting point is 02:02:44 Yeah, okay, cool. Well, anyway. That's it for me. If you want to check out my crap, you can check out patstairs at twitch.tv slash patstairs at. I'm going to be playing Among Us this week. I'm jumping on the bandwagon. Do it.
Starting point is 02:02:58 Might as well. I'm going to be, I'm going to bandwagon it. I actually played Among Us for real this past week. With a group of close friends. And I feel bad for them, because every single time Meir Paige was the imposter, we would kill each other first. And report the body, and then both immediately start screaming at each other in exactly the same voice.
Starting point is 02:03:29 You motherfucker, how could you? You lying sack of shit. And the solution in every game with my group of friends was to toss me out the airlock. I was the imposter three times out of like 40 games. I think I got airlocked like 30 times. I'm still in that phase where I've seen all the out of context clips and memes, but I, and I kind of know
Starting point is 02:03:57 what the game is, but I still don't fully understand it because I haven't actually touched it or seen it a full completion game from beginning to end. So interesting. Um, I'm, it's, it's, it's just a game about, Hey, do you, do you know whether or not your friends have insanely obvious lying tells. Right.
Starting point is 02:04:18 And I mean, you can play it with strangers, right? Oh yeah. Playing Among Us with strangers is legitimately hilarious, because there's something about having 120 seconds to argue in text chat that just descends into complete garbage. That is hilarious to me. There's, there's something about somebody reporting a dead body
Starting point is 02:04:49 and going white seam sus or orange seam sus, and everyone wordlessly within one second voting the person accused out and the person having a goddamn meltdown because they just started the game. Okay. Yeah. And like it's really funny. So far my understanding of this game is that it appears
Starting point is 02:05:13 that the goal is to group everyone into one corner, have someone get killed and have everybody come out of that one corner body and reveal that we were all here in the room all along. Ah, it was us. Ah, gotcha. But yeah, on Saturday, I'm going to be playing a bunch of other stuff, but the big event this week
Starting point is 02:05:33 is obviously Saturday afternoon, Eastern, when you're playing Among Us with one Peach Saliva, one Quiet Shy, one DK Diamondies, Rosalind, Mia Byte, Clemps, Butter Buns, and German Spy. Is there a- I don't know if Plague's going to show up. He said he probably would. When did he say that?
Starting point is 02:05:55 Did he? Did he actually say that? Yeah. But he was bitching at me for like an hour about schedules. Oh, okay. And maybe Plague, if he decides to show up. All right. Is there a consensus on what the exact stream was
Starting point is 02:06:13 that resurrected this game? Yeah, it was PewDiePie. Was it? Okay. Yeah, PewDiePie streamed it and everyone went, oh cool, and fucking pour one out for new blood studios who put out unfortunate spacemen like, oh, wasn't Pewds? Oh, it was Soda Poppin, my mistake.
Starting point is 02:06:36 Okay. And Carson? I heard it was XQC. Somebody just told me I don't know these big YouTubers. I thought, as someone said, it was XQC and I was like, is it? And then it's like, okay, no, maybe it's, all right, Soda Poppin. All right. Yeah, it just, I know it got resurrected.
Starting point is 02:06:53 So, all right, cool. I feel bad for new blood because they put out unfortunate spacemen. Which is this game, but much more in depth. Like a month or two before Among Us came back. Among Us is from 2018. Yeah. What a wild trajectory.
Starting point is 02:07:12 It's not necessarily like something that we, like it's a big story to go into, but it's just, came out two years ago, didn't do much. No one really heard. Couple of streams here and there, but it was pretty mild otherwise. And then this stream happened, blew it back up. They announced a sequel. Then they canceled the sequel. Because they now have stratospheric popularity alongside Fall Guys.
Starting point is 02:07:39 So now they're like, we'll just cancel all the content for the sequel and put it back into the existing game, which is seeing a huge resurgence. I have to say though, when I look at, when I look at Among Us, I completely understand why it is so popular. It, it can be played with just a mouse. It is insanely simple. It's like very, it's, it will run on anything. And it is like the, the barrier to entry is literally nothing.
Starting point is 02:08:14 A microphone. Yeah. No, you don't even need it. You don't even need it. You can play without talking? Oh yeah. There's text chat in the game. Ah, because I was going to say that like, I'm surprised how popular it is
Starting point is 02:08:29 considering how many people would probably be really nervous to talk. There is a, there is a fucking Among Us struggle tweets. Okay. Cause, cause like talking is actually a barrier for a lot of people. Yeah. I mean, I'm playing with shy and she don't talk. Well, that's not going to stop her from probably convincing somebody to fucking airlock my ass. Interesting.
Starting point is 02:08:55 Okay. Also, there is no in-game voice chat at all. Oh, so whenever people are talking, it's just them. You have to use Discord. It's just them talking over their stream. Yeah. And there's also like a very, very strict set of rules when you go how to play. Right.
Starting point is 02:09:13 Right. It goes, Hey, if you guys are in voice chat, turn that shit off unless you're in a meeting and dead people shut the fuck up. You're dead. Okay. So they, they tell you if you're playing on voice outside of this, don't break the rules. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:30 Cause obviously that's what you are. Yeah. You're, you're spending 80% of the, any particular game muted. And then when you have the emergency meeting, everybody turns their mic on and starts yelling at each other. But if you play with randoms, you're all doing text. Yeah. And, but you can only text chat in the meeting.
Starting point is 02:09:50 So it works. Okay. Um, yeah, it's legitimately really great. I'm just excited to do that on Saturday. I, I foresee being accused and tossed out the airlock constantly. The other thing about it that's actually very impressive, it has a really, like you load it into a lobby and you can change every single part of the way the game works. Like how fast do, can, uh, how, how long do killers have to wait before having being able
Starting point is 02:10:21 to kill? Can they do it in a 15 second cooldown of 30 second cooldown? Um, how many people are in the mat? How long are the tasks? How many tasks are there? You know, also to granular shit, but the most interesting one by far is I'm sure we'll leave seeing the memes of like so and so was not the imposter or so and so was the imposter when they get tossed out the airlock.
Starting point is 02:10:41 What if you just turned that off and it just says so and so was ejected? And now, and now you don't know whether or not you ejected somebody innocent or not. Oh, just, right. Okay. Okay. I see. That's by far the most interesting way to play because you can get games in which you just keep throwing out person after person after person and you're not, and you're not
Starting point is 02:11:07 winning. So what the hell is, oh no. Ew, wow, real life. Yeah. Okay. Interesting. Yeah. You can check all that crap out at over twitch.tv slash Pat Starr said.
Starting point is 02:11:18 Um, well, there was one where I think, what was it? Like someone came in and just like, there was a clip that I saw that was like, I think someone's name was racism or something like that. And then they just like immediately voted them out. And the person's like, I didn't even have a chance to. And then they just defeated racism. And then it turns out racism was the killer or whatever. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:11:46 He was, or one of those like little, no, it was, uh, it was, uh, it was, uh, it was a voice. It was a stream clip. I forget who it was, but it was like, it was white. It was obviously white on black crime. He goes, what? I didn't eat. And they didn't even get to talk and they immediately got thrown out and sure enough, it was him and then a guy goes, what the hell?
Starting point is 02:12:03 Why'd you do that? And they go, you know what, you're making excuses for racism. And they're like, what? And they toss him out and like, sure enough, game over. We won. We did it. Right. Right.
Starting point is 02:12:14 Right. The best one that I have seen, the best one that I have seen so far is a guy going into lobbies. Go with his, his name changed to just lowercase M E so that a guy goes, it was me vote me out. And getting people to just tell people to eject them. That's hilarious. And getting ejected. Smart. Smart.
Starting point is 02:12:43 40. All right. That's so good. So yeah, that's over at the twitch.tv slash pet stairs. That, there you go. I'm going to place Bologna to this week. That's probably going to be in infuriating. So this week, we are going to be, yeah, we got Tsushima on the plate.
Starting point is 02:13:05 We got some more fighting games. Wednesday, ODST is actually off because Lil V is working hard on a big old special music. Gee, I wonder what it could be. So he's going to need Wednesday. So Wednesday, we're going to do something else. I'm going to announce on the schedule. You'll see what it is. I'll probably just take another look at something that I've been
Starting point is 02:13:31 meaning to get around to for a while that's been sitting on the plate as far as one offs go or quick looks. So there's a lot. And then there's some shit fucking even today that I'm like, adding to that list. So yeah, we'll be doing all that over at woolly versus on twitch. And of course, woolly versus on YouTube, where lots of fun stuff comes out. And like I said, a new woolly will figure it out.
Starting point is 02:14:02 Should be dropping soon. I just got to put things together. But talking about the QA days. So should be fun. That doesn't sound fun at all. No, no. It's just a manner of expression. It was actually it was actually kind of suffering.
Starting point is 02:14:23 Yeah, woo, woo. You know when they say like you ready to take a someday you'll look back on this and laugh. Yeah, I've heard that. You know what else I've heard? Fuck that. I have heard some people say that streaming is way harder than working in a minimum wage job. Which might be the the stupidest fucking spoiled brat shit in the universe.
Starting point is 02:14:54 Listen, man. Leffen. I don't know about you, but personally, I'm a huge fan of the deep Leffen bot. Did you see that the Leffen bot said that before Leffen? Sure did. That's why as far as I'm concerned, this is what this is a bot sentiment. Isn't that incredible? Art imitates life.
Starting point is 02:15:17 Life imitates art. Oh my god. Just incredible. Like now I will say one thing. I can I love to make fun of Smash players because it's easy and they're terrible, but I have to really admire the stakes that you're willing to shit on the new game in your franchise to go this far to get like the most ratio tweet I've ever seen just to dump on Smash Ultimate.
Starting point is 02:15:53 Like I was I definitely did follow along when like there's a when like it was one of the things where you can there's a moment where when you're so inside of a game like series or like a franchise where you're like if you're talking about a character that you don't play people are going to be like dude what the fuck you don't even play those characters and he kind of pointed out he's like yeah I'm talking about a game I bought and it's like it is true that like on this level of like character knowledge we get so associated with something that you almost it's almost like you bought that character and not the whole game and you can people kind of might forget that so I did understand that point but it very quickly devolved into something that was
Starting point is 02:16:34 just like let's take whose point was it I think it was was it I want to say it might have been Foxcade someone quickly said a good rule of thumb is don't talk about this stuff when you happen to be one of the lucky people with this kind of job like literally just don't even talk about um minimum wage work like there's just there's nothing here that's going to come out millhouse for you know I love this at some point last night he yesterday he tried to roll it like run it back and be like oh obviously bad con and now he's deleted it okay stupid bitch oh I think I think like again like the the start of the argument could have gone a bunch of different ways it wasn't like the take started at a place where it's like okay I hear your statement defend
Starting point is 02:17:38 your point but then it just goes down a road that is like now you're doubling tripling quadrupling down and like you have to make that kind of statement at the end of it which in and out of context is just the most disconnected shit ever um it ain't great it ain't great uh yeah you know but hey I mean I say this as someone who's uh great pals with uh our our buddy kage the warrior the inventor of the vip meme you know for smash uh uh who again the context given for it it's like we laugh about it now you know but yeah that was a bad tweet that was a bad take hey before we take a quick word from our sponsors do you mind if we take a two minute break so I can use the washer all right let's just hit that pause everybody all right we'll be right
Starting point is 02:18:34 excuse me all right so let's take a quick word from our sponsors yes uh this week the podcast is sponsored by something foobo tv hey foobo what up hey so foobo tv if you are down with watching tv but hate your cable company and if you want to get out of that that that world of awful awful chords that seems like a uh problem that a lot of people have holes yeah I would say that um we have cut the cord so to speak left the days of uh that stuff behind us but foobo tv uh is the opportunity to do that watch on demand while still catching live sports news and prime time tv without any complicated
Starting point is 02:19:45 contract so if you want to uh you know embrace the future but also keep an eye on the sports and the the different live events that you want to watch uh you don't have to go with the monthly cost of cable that's going in over 200 bucks and whatever else they charge you for all that fucking crap extra features and bullshit it's it's it's a waste you don't need that uh foobo tv 65 bucks a month to watch the same channels you don't have to pay for dvr or installation basically yeah it's it's how you how you get access to over 100 channels cloud dvr with no hidden fees stream your shows whenever you want on your tv or any other smart device um they've got major broadcasting cable networks they got all the shows that you're looking for and um
Starting point is 02:20:36 um and again you don't have to deal with the ridiculous uh cost of cable which let's be real is in its dying days and is charging that much because it's going the way of the dinosaur mm-hmm get off that stegosaurus the back is is rigged and painful you don't need to write it anymore foobo tv no risks you can try it for seven days for free so right now a foobo tv is offering our listeners a seven-day free trial and 15 off your first month by going to foobotv.com slash superbeast there's no contracts and you can cancel anytime you go to foobotv.com slash superbeast for 15 off your first month and a free trial that's foobotv.com slash superbeast thanks foobotv thank you foobotv we're also sponsored by babble this week and this is the
Starting point is 02:21:43 solution to your language learning problems if you've thought that hey i want to learn a language i want to get uh my my stat sheet bumped up i want to improve my communication abilities i have a skill point to spend excuse me where should i put it well um you might you might not be able to get that klingon perfectly fluent or or elvish you know um or other man or whatever the language is that that yoko kano writes her songs in that crazy shit but but if you want to learn a language that you can talk to people with you got access to all kinds with babble it's always been something that is on the to-do list i know that i've kind of done it for japanese to a degree as much as possible and you know um you know besides the the obvious of where we're
Starting point is 02:22:45 growing up here with french but if you're trying to work on your german if you're trying to work on your spanish like um all of these things you can do it with babble basically you get uh daily lessons 10 to 15 minutes and they start by teaching you words and phrases sentences that gradually get more complex and before you know it you'll be practicing short conversations it's designed to get you speaking the language within weeks and they're designed with real world conversations in mind so what you get is practical and it's actually things that you will use when you're speaking these languages over a hundred language experts put the lessons together and they've been scientifically proven across multiple studies they've even got speech recognition
Starting point is 02:23:32 technology to help you improve your pronunciation and your accent over 14 different languages to choose from available as an app or online uh your progress your progress is synced so yeah so really uh it's the future of how you how you learn your languages you don't got to do the old ways of finding a classroom and a book and like someone smacking a a whiteboard at you there's no need we have the internet now we have the internet we have the lessons we have the science we have the data we've got babble so right now you can purchase a three month subscription babble will give listeners three additional months for free with that uh promo code castle that's three additional months if you go to babble.com and use promo code castle on your three month subscription
Starting point is 02:24:26 babbel.com promo code castle thanks babble thank you babble and last but certainly not least we've got a new sponsor today oh new sponsor that's pretty fucking rad i gotta say uh this week the podcast is sponsored by tile are you familiar with that tile ti le tile okay is one of those this is some tech that i've been using for years now so i am i'm quite glad that they're like hey you know do you want to do you want to work with us and do a little thing and i'm like yeah i've been relying on your tech for years tile is good shit what it is is um a bluetooth device such a good idea that tracks your stuff and it's small and it's sleek and it connects to an app on your phone and tells you where your shit is it's the best
Starting point is 02:25:36 like legitimately been relying on this for a while um basically how it works is you get an app on your phone and like you sync up uh whatever your uh you you sync up your devices to it and then anytime you misplace it you just you search you find and it'll tell you where your tiles are it'll beep and give you a little jingle and be like oh there it is right so the best part about it i'd say for me personally is the fact that they've got not just the little device that you actually can hook up to your keychain they've got like things that you can they've got cards that fit inside of a wallet that are wallet sized they're just the size of it like a credit card slide it right in now your wallet you don't lose it because it's tracked by bluetooth you've got a keychain
Starting point is 02:26:24 my keys are currently on a key on a tile supported keychain ring that i have as well that i keep track of you throw one of these uh tiles inside your luggage and you don't lose your suitcase because you're like oh if it's if it's you ever misplace it or whatever see where it is it'll give you a little ping i you know what i mean like i've used this to find at least one person who would benefit greatly in their life for the ability to find their phone and or glasses at a moment's notice um of course your phone connects to it as well that's a that's a really hey who if you know anybody that loses their stuff uh i have used this to find lost shit and it's been great um so so you've been using it what is like say i'm in my living room right now right
Starting point is 02:27:20 yeah and my bullshit's under the cushions yes remote that i have if this is like because i've had it so these headphones or this will be like deep all the way underneath and it's like a long couch cushion so you wouldn't think to check if i click on the thing does it start beeping you straight up open up the app you go to like and right away you're going to be looking at all the tile devices you've synced to and i've got mine here i got my luggage my wallet my keys got my phone i got all my shit and then you just tap the find button and then it'll give you a little beep and it'll be like it'll do the little noise and it'll be like oh there it is it's right over there and then it also displays it on your phone the the location of where it is too so that you can
Starting point is 02:28:08 you know trying uh uh coordinate and and make your way towards it if need be it's yeah it's straight up it's just like hey are you sick of losing your stuff get this get tile it's it's just that that straightforward um there's the smaller there's the small trackers the larger trackers there's the like i said the keychain the card i'm using it in everywhere i've got at least like five or six of them tracking my stuff uh punch mom lost her her wallet i got her a tile to put in her wallet so that she can track hers as well like it's just it's it's straight up an incredibly useful product um more than happy to tell people about this uh so yeah get a limited edition tile for yourself and everyone who's always losing their stuff if you know someone that can't stop
Starting point is 02:29:01 losing their stuff i can think of a few you're gonna want to go to tile.com slash super beast to shop the limited edition collection right now that's tile.com slash super beast fun exclusive one of a kind designs go fast so check them out today at tile.com slash super beast yeah like again i i i can't say enough good things you know if you're sick of losing your stuff this is the answer the the future has brought us many solutions this is one of them and i have a problem that that you don't have which is i have animals that will just lay on top of devices and absorb them there you go so you might need to press that find button and hear it coming out of the rumbling of a gut i can do that um and when i say lose i don't just mean like completely misplace while you're
Starting point is 02:29:59 out i mean literally in your apartment or house like oh the worst the word i put that thing loss of any item i've ever had is when i put my phone on a bookshelf that i don't use very often there you go took like an entire day to find the fucking thing for me it's for me it's uh pockets of jackets and pants oh that's terrible yeah murder so done and done that's that's what it is thanks tile thank you tile all right so a couple things this week uh following up from the big old busy last week uh there's the aftermath of a lot of stories and then there's the tgs so with the tokyo game show which still going strong i i just have a quick lightning round update uh to an earlier thing we talked about
Starting point is 02:31:01 yeah uh as of one hour ago uh genshin impact has said they'll be removing the anti-cheat when the game lovely great that that will be going live tomorrow in an update okay at the very least whatever horrible uh shit they put in it was called miHoYo Protect and it wasn't just called like nadovo like some new some new thing i don't know where it is but i don't know what it is but yeah we are uh good good update to that all right back to one of the worst tgs is i can think of hey there's been a couple of things that were good with that uh that were announced i i didn't even i didn't even go for the roundup i just pulled out a couple of the things that are worth talking about i really didn't even know tgs was happening until you mentioned it to me earlier in the podcast
Starting point is 02:32:07 yeah um there's the roundup is a bunch of stuff that is get it i don't know i i don't think you'd have much to say about it i personally wouldn't either so i just grabbed some select items i hope that's okay with everybody um i'm gonna say uh from the jump we've got a reveal of the near replicant version 1.22474487139 i don't why they do that i feel like it's a joke when they do this with the titles why they gotta be like that yoko kano is a serious motherfucker he he jokes when he should be serious and he's serious when he should be joking i'm sorry what who did you say yoko taro oh i thought you said yoko kano yoko ono you yeah he did say yoko kano okay uh yeah yoko taro
Starting point is 02:33:07 you're thinking of the zelda guy what no i said yoko taro i said you i said yoko taro okay anyway moving on moving on that man is a very bizarre man um there's a footage of the new near but it's not the new near it's actually the old near actually it's the young near it's unfortunate it's unfortunate that it is but i i mean it's more different for us so i guess we get more value i yes but i don't like the brother sister relationship dynamic compared to father and daughter does love the brother sister relationship father daughter i feel has a better
Starting point is 02:34:09 emotional resonance for the story than brother sister does and it's also well now we've had more examples of parental games but they were rare when near original gestalt uh uh was on the 360 right like we've got our dad of boys you know we've got our um even like uh ellie and joel you know that came that came along later on like that whole sort of like vibe of like you and and someone that you are looking out for that you know it is it is one that like it's not as rare now but at the time it definitely was and i still think that that's the better way to play it between the two but on each one it would be nice if there was some sort of dlc that could cosmetically make that change yeah but i want the voice actor back to exactly so giro was great
Starting point is 02:35:23 i mean i just i find it really funny that you call him so giro because in my head when i was playing p five i was like oh thanks pop in here yeah no well that's correct but i just for the sake of anyone who didn't know that i decided to go with so giro but it is near first you're correct um but yeah i i guess i think that like we don't like making this whole game over from scratch and it looks really incredible now the action looks like they fucking fixed it by just inserting the automata juice into it yeah it looks very automata so they've basically fixed near which means that like the story being as strong as it always was with some really fun gameplay equals a fucking perfect game in theory yeah yoko taro's in a weird position where he
Starting point is 02:36:13 did a bunch of cool ass shit that was trapped in games that like like holding them was like being lit on fire like just very bad painful not good fun to play what's interesting about this remake is that it's not being remade by platinum but it certainly is inspired by what they've done yeah it seems it seems very like hell yeah no we should we should make these near games play like that because that's a good thing and i i imagine the old were yeah well with the basis of the old weapons and you know design choices and then the modern things to look at and influence like you have to really like you have a structure to use as a basis and then the building blocks created by platinum to to to draw from so you know this is a this is a simple and clear way
Starting point is 02:37:09 to improve the game no no side of a bore so far and it's early enough that they had to like use the debug menu to spawn shades into the world so shit is in development you know it ain't it ain't done yet um i think my favorite thing about that whole presentation was uh yoko taro talking about the director of this game and going on like a small rant about how much he hates him because he is young and handsome and wealthy and he is like everything that he hates in a person as the director was just cracking up so i don't i don't know what square presentations were like before yoko taro but i feel they're different now whenever he's around the entire room must address and slow to match his style or speed to match his speed up to match speed with target
Starting point is 02:38:07 you know like he controls and dictates the tone and everyone must adjust accordingly the the one that always sticks in my head um is when he was helping design the first Final Fantasy 14 raid he's sitting there with the i forget the name of the guy i think it's Saito something the producer that he's always with and he's talking about how like originally he's like yeah i don't need to play the game i'm just gonna design the thing and Square Enix keeps telling me i have to play the mmo yeah and then on the next one he's like yeah so i got like halfway to the level cap as a healer and i just gave up i don't care what yeah yeah dude he's like it's just again it's it's that it's that presence he sets the pace yoko taro sets the pace everyone else is trying to do their
Starting point is 02:39:08 professional please look forward to it gamers type of stream and he just comes out and he just throws someone under the bus or just throws mad shade or tells someone to fuck off and everyone just goes oh well you know yeah anyway because everyone's like hey he keeps it real like this and he's like gamers this is what you like gamers uh yep yep so uh that was entertaining but what i really just again just to just to get to the point i guess was i feel like they're remaking this game they're putting a lot of effort into it and with that huge herculean effort would it be that much more to just give the option for people who played gestalt instead of replicant yeah it's clear that a whole lot of north america would want that because that's
Starting point is 02:40:11 what we were given you know and they're remaking the japanese version but it's an entire region where yeah that's one of the only publisher decisions i think you and i both agree on was like just way better what it's like it's crazy right like in most circumstances it would be like oh what the fuck you're changing the original that's not what they what they wanted that's not how it was designed but it and in this case it was like nah shut up it's better like they yeah like papa near in terms of like production is basically poochy the is the is the the suit's going no i don't think it should be a brother kids like people like the dad should be a dad
Starting point is 02:40:57 and it was and it was but and it does knowing the truth about that later on does give you some weird like clarity when you go oh my god that's why he sounds and acts like a kid sometimes yeah right that's why there's moments where he stands there and goes no wait kine we're friends right you know are you a weird 80 year old man that's like he has these innocent gestures at times or you're like what but yeah man you can't compete with like my little sister can't possibly throw this much shade please please please in all your efforts here do the right thing and let north america get popping your back to or give us the option somebody just point post it in the chat and i just heard heard it blast
Starting point is 02:41:55 you and i are friends now friends now such and a weird fucking read and here's the other here's the other thing what are they gonna do with the casting like are they gonna get everybody back except for near absolutely 100 percent i i love the opinion they should try and reuse as much as the existing audio as they can so the problem is i don't think that's okay when it comes to the the fucking you know uh paying again just paying the actors again maybe like i don't think it's okay for me yeah for me fucking union worker standpoint or what you know like screen actors i don't think you're you're cool on that however um if they are if they do agree to be like hey yo your last cat your last performance
Starting point is 02:42:51 was so incredible that we'll use as much of it as we can and they're like yeah sure just pay me that's cool but it would be nice if they just re-recorded it and and you know they just get a new near um and you know this is all because if you've played near you should be aware but the voice acting is some of the best ever done for like a dub job of a localized game i mean the the trailer is highlighting how strong some of the voice acting is you know and i think kinage is going off on you is like one of the major points of like yeah you can't lose that in this remake that's a really important thing to keep the the the opening trailer of just like give give me a big sloppy kiss shadow lord like grant give me as as the break tone setter
Starting point is 02:43:48 for that game yeah yeah yeah oh yeah were they not allowed to swear in that first of the game because because they should be allowed to say fuck i'm pretty sure they're swearing i remember swearing a lot start fucking helping us yeah okay yeah yeah they absolutely i absolutely remember swearing um let emil say fuck sure uh you know and then you know what i'm seeing a solution in chat just have papa near voice the new character just half and half it hey just we all fucking whatever shut up we all had that one kid in our senior year of high school who got that mustache way too early who fucking came in and was like deep ass voiced and you're like bro we're 16 what the fuck like what happened
Starting point is 02:44:51 like yeah i don't know i can't do anything about it i don't know man you know it just happened you're like damn dude you went from 15 to 30 you know so yeah sure give kid near give brother near the pop of your voice like a like a exclamation to the roll either just do papa near uh and have him call her emoto yeah um i emoto is one of those words that just hits me in my stomach every time good deep in the stomach that's where you want it it's just a low yep yep she can't possibly like there's no possible way on god's green i can't even fathom her being this cute
Starting point is 02:46:02 it's not okay that she's this cute anyway uh you should well you should get back in a game dev and make the the fucking tower defense game mamoru emoto mamoru emoto yeah that's right now is it the emoto that's mamoru wing or does she need to be mamoru'd she needs to be mamoru'd okay okay um so i broke down a situation for reggie the other day while we were playing uh uh susheema where i think i kind of am like the the anime equivalent of reverse psychology is if you can frame any action you've done as protecting something you have just won the argument right this is clear but the counter to this is if i can frame your decision as running away you have lost oh my god you know you're just running away
Starting point is 02:47:16 from your problems are you sure you're protecting you from my problems aren't you just running away from your old life no i'm protecting my new family oh from my old family as long as you can frame it in the right way you are untouchable this is the real shit all shinji had to do was frame it differently in his brain he all you have to say is i'm protecting myself from all of you and your problems i'm protecting my virginity i'm protecting my fears aren't you just running away from your virginity no aren't you no aren't you just running away from manhood no i'm protecting my virginity that's what it is there it is it's all you gotta do and then they're like shit
Starting point is 02:48:27 fucking uh phoenix right theme turn about it turn about fucking it's it's over we can't come back from that damn it so um i hope that they put version 1.22474487139 on the box commit to it oh it's in the title art like the cover art's on there and it's it's in there good it looks ridiculous wonderful it makes me not trust what that game is like that new title yeah right up makes me not trust it and i i think we've been conditioned to look at anything like this as fucking sus yeah where it's like hey we're remake it are you fucking are you are you square enix plot line timeline that consists of infinite points that can be inserted as a computer's
Starting point is 02:49:34 gathering data well you know what you know what the you know what the solution to all of our problems would be right mm it would be um going to the forest and having papa near narrate some of it and go what oh ending fucking e ending e continued version one point gibberish numbers bracket e e
Starting point is 02:50:33 can't won't refuse not anymore not again not like this just take the worst possible ending and and fucking and there's a there is a like i'm gonna say like more than non-zero there is a like 25 percent chance this is not a remake yeah the the original game structure is so weird that you could easily hide it for a while well wait for the trailer and see if they show you like if all you see is the field and they refuse to go anywhere else or show you anything else that comes later you might be fucking getting hoodwinked you know you might cross that field and make it
Starting point is 02:51:32 out the factory level and just something like shit might not go drifting oh interesting there's subtitles right away on your first play that's crazy why would that be there was that i don't what that seems off yeah that's the point that you should be concerned at immediately if you start the game and there's fucking subtitles right away anyway uh so there's a little bit of from tgs we got a look at uh the new world of yujinaka and um the sonic character designer ballon wonder world all right um time to look at this shit ah sorry sir i i forget the name oh
Starting point is 02:52:50 yeah this is just sonic adventure but not so this uh ballon wonder world was announced before this but uh they put out more information about it and the new trailer uh showing off some more of what this is including this uh hat wearing green dreadlocked character which made its way to my timeline immediately um weeks ago and yeah that yeah and uh yeah with the uh with the new information that came out in tgs we have the characters uh the boy and the girl leo and emma and uh ballon and lance a villain and we have yujinaka kind of talking about the game and we saw some some some footage and it seems to be um hey just just a good old like funky art style adventure this look this looks like hey guys sonic adventure was a great series and we've
Starting point is 02:54:07 always been big fans of it that's why we're kick starting ballon wonderland wonder world in in acknowledgement of that like it looks like but it's not a kickstarter yeah but it looks like this spiritual successor to a franchise that died okay i hear you i mean here's the thing like yujinaka after sonic did have a bunch of other uh things that like you know were cool ideas but they didn't end up with like a huge sequel uh wait hold on i'm confused everyone's saying it looks like knights but i thought knights was just doing those loop-to-loops in character design character design is is similar in that style but knights is about flying and doing the loop-to-loops it is yeah yeah so what the fuck are you people talking about this is a third person running around
Starting point is 02:55:02 and possibly co-op as well like sonic convention um anyway uh so they mean visuals they mean visuals yeah there's there's there's there's there's a similar similarity to the art style he also but don't forget about um uh he ivy the kiwi that came and was was was cool and kind of didn't really you know get the the didn't get the franchise going on that and rodea the sky soldier as well i'm watching footage of knights right now oh my god this shit aged like fucking milk so bad oh knights is terrible holy shit he produced billy hatcher in the giant egg yeah i feel i feel like like you know when you go down the history of stuff that yujinaka has done like he's tried consistently to make new characters
Starting point is 02:55:58 and worlds and settings like i have a ton of respect for the creativity and like the fact that like he keeps making new shit i really do like that um you know people definitely love old shit and i love old shit behind but i love new shit too and i and i and i were told chuchu rocket on fancy star billy hatcher like it's interesting because yeah the first the first reaction a lot of the time when you say the names of these things is we should be seeing uh video game sequel in fact like even with anything like i said like i like i said ivy the kiwi and then i said like rodea the sky soldier and i guess in a weird way you kind of judge a video game success based on like did you see a rodea two
Starting point is 02:56:50 did you see three you know did you that's kind of how you think about it um but and it is and it is like a you know like a real metric because it's like if it made enough money and it's sold well enough the company would be very happy to make more of it and see the character grow and in some cases in most cases but but that being said uh the the decision that he you know like he's gonna make new shit and see if you like it is one that i really i like that i enjoy that you know you're like willing to do something and you're confident in your ability to like make something new that people will like because like at the end of the day like people are not going to scream for something new that i don't know exists but i will love when it does exist
Starting point is 02:57:37 you know every time there's something new no one was asking for it they were asking for sequel to other thing and they got something new and it's like now you're in love with the thing that exists you know so if you if you're a creator like and you have that ability i i i have confidence in your brain that whatever the fuck you put out you know there's a good shot of that being good and i'm i'm like by all means go in the go in the go into the unknown and and do some new shit uh yeah ballon wonderland excuse me wonder world uh looks looks looks interesting looks fun uh also from tgs oh man uh apple and epic are literally in court arguing right now cool and it's going really badly for epic the judge doesn't give a shit about a single thing they
Starting point is 02:58:41 have to say is there like a play by play yeah it's like a it's a lawyer man going through uh and it's like uh epics like well fortnite players don't have multiple devices to play fortnite on and then the judge is like aren't isn't fortnite on everything and free yeah isn't it free on everything uh judge gonzalez roger seems very skeptical of epics case right this right now is about ios have distribution quote you want access to apple's customer base that doesn't necessarily mean you're locked in she says like it's it's a disaster the judge has literally said dude there's walled gardens everywhere nintendo sony and microsoft all have their own stores that's how it works isn't it like holy shit do you ever see those clips of
Starting point is 02:59:45 like like the most recent one that comes to mind is like the dude who's on his motorcycle about to cross the finish line so he starts popping a wheelie oh yeah just just eats and and then while he's popping the wheelie second place just fucking burns right by him and you ever seen the you ever seen the triathlon version of them i've seen multiple versions of that of that happening the the i remember a long time ago there was a triathlon version where the guy was like way out in front like 200 feet out and just raised his arms to be like yeah and that was enough to cause him to tumble to the ground and could not stand until second place third place which might have been as far back as 500
Starting point is 03:00:38 feet past them just couldn't even crawl the 10 feet to the finish line like the oldest fuck up in the book the height of hubris the good old what are you standing up for what are you standing up for like you know who you know who i feel felt the real pressure in that moment not the dumbass guilty gear i don't know their name sorry guys but not the dumbass guilty gear player who stood up in the middle of a set thinking he won it was his opponent who was like i better fucking training dummy this dude this ass this is the golden opportunity oh my goodness success is what happens when preparedness meets opportunity right so yeah you're just like oh i've done this in the lab before there's a training dummy and all i have
Starting point is 03:01:40 to do is a touch of death you know yeah although guilty gear of all games is the one where you also could just hit all four buttons and fucking all of you all that is so mean you know you don't have to waste time styling there's a burst in that game you don't have to put any of that on the line you can just hit four buttons and go for the win you can just steal it so yeah a loss is not is always like three to four seconds away let's be real everyone at epic is stupid i mean it's it's it's just it's the celebration that kind of sets the tone for this whole event really it's the it's the leaning into it and this and the you know the mockery of sorts and i think we again everyone was like yo grab and popcorn because
Starting point is 03:02:37 who gives a fuck these are two mega giants let them fight oh i don't i want them both to lose and burn down that's what i'm saying right it's one of those it's like yeah okay whatever but now like oh shit you started dancing well now i now you really need to get hit again another version of the of the of this moment the the uh mma fight where the dude starts break dancing he starts backing off to do a little shuffle and dance and do a little taunt and he does it and he gets away with it and he does it again and halfway through he gets knocked the fuck out mid taunt you know and you're like it's the most satisfying when it's a counter hit on a taunt there's bonus damage for that moral and spiritual
Starting point is 03:03:29 you're white like you guys hear this when i do this yep okay cuz my my my like brain eyeball is the moment two months ago when there were a bunch of epic guys sitting in a room going guys we're gonna make so much money oh it's gonna be so oh and it's like those guys are now instead of like money washing their hand dry washing they're now like anxiety dry washing their hands a minor difference but hmm uh well anyway tgs had uh that going on uh and then something with multiple interesting announcements to it was the tech n7 uh release uh about season four did you catch any of this i felt so happy watching that kudamitsu trailer
Starting point is 03:04:35 because one kudamitsu is great yep a great character hasn't been around a while super more than that i was watching the trailer and my first reaction with about five seconds was that's not kudamitsu and because i think she's fighting you know from a side profile i'm like where's her horrible disgusting i scar and then sure enough you get to the end and she's like ha we're doing the thing that pretty much only tech and does which is we're doing it for you mother i'm the tech and kid it's the daughter look at me the last kudamitsu we saw was tech and tag two so we got to see the real return there um but now she took the mask off and it's like oh yeah oh yeah no that's probably her kid mark two also yoshi mitsu gets fucked up
Starting point is 03:05:34 yeah he gets his sword took raven gets even raven gets like like knocked out like it's not even a thing stomped on which you know like new trailer reveal power levels are not necessarily accurate of storyline power levels but and also the way that it usually goes is is the how old your character is is how tough they are there is that too but like you know how the you know how the like character as antagonist is twice as powerful as character on your on your party character in trailer is the strongest they'll ever be oh yeah no question uh so they announced kudamitsu is a tech and two character and like fucking new ravens from like seven so like she has no chance like that's a poor poor raven um the stage is gorgeous it's
Starting point is 03:06:36 incredibly beautiful um what it's kind of nuts though how the stage platform itself if you look at the full art of it it's built on top of a holy tree and it's kind of like cool but it's like you had to cut a holy tree two of them actually down to to put the stage here and that's probably not okay unless it burnt on its own you know or something yeah i could you lightning could have hit it lightning hit the tree and it burnt away on its own and then they salvaged it by putting the stage on top of it totally magic totally that's why the magic time that's my head canon like one of the most beautiful stages in the game free so incredible um and then harada started talking about the netcode improvements and boy did he go from not saying
Starting point is 03:07:29 enough about rollback to flying over everyone's heads with the level of what he talked about it is really interesting it's very feel like that was a very sudden change but it was made clear after the round table that talking about ai is not enough and what is also not enough is saying that tecan already has rollback though because that is a statement that doesn't make a ton of sense with what the player sees and every time every time he said it people have been very confused by what do you mean because we don't see it in game so based on the discussion here's what i think makes sense of what what what what we saw one they announced that there's a wi-fi indicator now so you can see who's connected on what right when he said this he also brought
Starting point is 03:08:37 up the fact that he said 60 of people are wired so it means that the translation we got last time was actually inaccurate or there's some confusion as to which uh uh he's referring to what he says 60 percent because last time it was 60 wi-fi now it's 60 wired either way it's a lot but there was just yeah there was a discrepancy between those two things right all right so then uh he he he said uh that the um the wired connections are massively uh uh uh skewed towards obviously pc players uh and more so than any uh in japan most people are wired the wi-fi connections are mostly north america and american console non-pc yes exactly that's where the wi-fi numbers come from i i mean my my anecdotal experience is that i always have an
Starting point is 03:09:49 easier time getting matches on console but they're always of a worse quality with almost every game bigger bigger audience but shittier connections i think that um a lot of that obviously has to do with the fact that you know again uh japanese internet has been like superior forever and uh smaller surface area faster connections all that shitt you know like the big ol continental us with a lot of uh areas that are still not really great for internet it's the discussion we've had a million times just it explains why these stats are the way they are right man you want a fucking masterclass on this go watch uh uh plague of gripes his fallout stream that he did last night or night before where he just breaks down just how fucking bad his internet situation
Starting point is 03:10:48 has been lately and how ridiculous that shit is yeah um it's every time we have the discussion there's always the people that reach out to kind of paint a picture of how dire it is and it's like it's like it's really lopsided considering like how some areas are like like fucking fiosed up and and and trying to take it to the next level but you know there's still people out there that like are are unable to fucking get anywhere with with their shitty wifi so um all this to say that this brings us to the next conclusion of course which is we got to talk about rollback why because if you have bad wi-fi um you're not going to get a great match against people no matter what but you will get a significantly better one with a game that is uh rolling back so when we have uh what he
Starting point is 03:11:48 talked about he says per season four will also bring a major response improve back to the the netcode to rollback uh aspects specifically and he said something that seemed to imply and this kind of might clarify maybe what we see versus what is happening he said rollback already exists in the game what we see whenever there's a hiccup in tech end is that the game stops and then resumes so right it appears to resemble a delay it seems like what's actually happening is that um the game is uh basically it has a threshold on how far like you're willing to allow the simulation to rollback for both players and it seems like for tech end that threshold is pretty much none whatsoever so very strict it won't display the reversal of time it will just stop the
Starting point is 03:12:54 present and whatever it's calculating with the neutral simulation you don't get to see it it just continues from the freezing point thus it ends up resembling a hiccup because the because the characters just stop moving and then they then they resume so if there is a rollback that is occurring unlike other games where we see it tech end doesn't show it to you pretty it's not exactly it that might be what's happening it's not 100 clear um what we need to see of course is the difference when they finally do tweak it because they did tweak it before and people still were not seeing um uh the corrections play out in a way that other rollback games do if we start to see that again once this update happens then we'll know that they basically just uh they increased
Starting point is 03:13:56 that threshold essentially um if i lost you don't worry but the point is is uh they say they're making it better and he talked about the how and um it's just that tech end seems to have rollback implemented in a very different way from most other games um but you know uh that could be really good the third thing about that discussion that was that was very very curious was the part where he said that he actually ended up having a conversation with sakurai about it and sakurai was apparently very interested in what they were doing uh he said he was interested in the conversation about online features and uh he wanted to know what their ratio of wire to wireless players was like so on on the switch it's real bad whatever it is it's obviously really
Starting point is 03:14:55 bad well he actually so the the the data on that is like 60 doesn't even begin to cut it is the quote when it comes to talking about the switch so yeah of course like by default out of the box you have to go out of your you have to take an extra purchase step to get wired so that doesn't that it's gonna be 99 for sure um but yeah this is this is uh something that is happening right now so working on tech end improving improving the netcode and sakurai is apparently watching with keen interest what uh tech end is doing uh we got impressions from mark man who's actually he forced himself so mark man doesn't he was talking on his twitter about how he doesn't play online fighting games at all he did he did have a thread yeah
Starting point is 03:15:47 but uh he forced himself to play two months of current tech end uh to like be able to be informed and then play the season four netcode and described that uh coast to coast in the us on a wired connection it felt like offline now obviously this is mark man the brand and community manager for tech end and soul caliber and lifetime tech and man so grain assault but hopefully that's pretty promising uh he's worn many hats i don't know if he's currently i'm on his twitter he is yeah there we go okay the brand and community yeah i just want i just want to check if he still is yeah yeah okay there you go yeah um we'll see man you know but uh at the very least we know that bandai and uh nintendo have a working relationship from previous smash games so it makes sense that
Starting point is 03:16:51 you know sakurai and harada would uh would be talking to each other about stuff like this doesn't necessarily dweebs keep telling me about roly backies what is that's it might like it the nature of the conversation might literally have just been what the fuck are all these annoying americans talking about on my twitter they will not shut the fuck up please make them shut up you know who knows and sakurai is like you wish you you oh man i wish i got rollback shit you wouldn't believe the stupid shit my twitter gets what what is a gino i mean what really what better explanation would there be than the next time they're in this continent on this continent to just have them boot the game up and play it
Starting point is 03:17:40 it and just do you understand now yes yes yes i do you know like that's because showing footage is not giving enough if you show footage of of bad like teleports and hiccups and rollbacks like and delays excuse me um it's not gonna be enough what you also need to feel is the the the the delay on your inputs you have to feel it as well you know so anyway hey i know this looks like normal footage but trust us it's online and it's really good well that's not very effective so um they also announced the next resident evil infinite darkness i thought this was one of them cg movies aka read okay i too thought it was one of them cg movies and it turns out that it's a netflix tv series
Starting point is 03:18:56 cgi of course but uh it's going to which makes sense when you really think about it right like if that if they've been making resident evil movies in the background in cg for a while now like the next move is to do what everyone else is doing right now and just turn it into a tv show if dragon dog was getting greenlit um i did not hear good things about that dragon's dogma show i didn't hear anything about it there you go well the uh the key visual they had was a shot of leon in a chair and uh claire nearby and there was all this blood around them and it looked all you know seriously would you say evil perhaps evil even but it seems there's an actual trailer now and i didn't get
Starting point is 03:19:55 i didn't get a chance to watch it it's almost nothing okay yeah it got updated walking around a decrepit looking house and then leon shoots a zombo and that's it now based on their clothing this would have to take place it could be anything could be anything post four sure no that okay it's post four but as to when in there cool could be oh man probably post revelations too but hmm i'll need more details but then i'll be able to slot it into the mammoth or a reasonable canon
Starting point is 03:20:43 for you buddy don't worry you won't be left without the left and left in the dark yeah in the infinite darkness that's correct here is is the infinite darkness the you know what let's just i'm just gonna ripcord that one just gonna punch it out yeah yeah just punch it out had to work too hard for it i went i'll get it what was the are you memeing no i'm just i'm abandoning a joke i'm abandoning a joke uh in its in its inception is what i'm doing oh no yeah um something something bloodline uh-huh preggers yeah it's in you uh-huh yeah uh anyway no you think chris will be there
Starting point is 03:21:49 probably this will be like fuck my sister leon get in my emoto leon the infinite darkness is is the place that chris can hide while he watches to make sure what's this is you are having to go too far on this that's what i'm saying and that was plan b anyway actually don't say that too loud he's he wouldn't like that oh that chris he hates plan b you're doing your best buddy you're doing your best uh
Starting point is 03:22:54 well anyway um hey hey uh we talked about it earlier but it doesn't quite clearly uh the shapes have not have not quite set but something virtual fighter related is happening and it has to do with esports and the trailer shows you one minute of audience reactions and head-to-head tournament footage of the virtual fighter competitive community in japan and then the message virtual fighter cross esports pops up with akira's back staring at a screen and then akira turns to look back at the player and then that's the sega logo and then it's done it's really hard to guess at what we're seeing but if you're showing off a game it seems unlikely that this is the way you're gonna go
Starting point is 03:23:58 about it yeah sure does doesn't it but it technically we did see i think street fighter did a community trailer prior to the drop as well um it definitely doesn't seem like new game is this is is advertised in this method it seems like old game plus community features at best or retrospective documentary at worst retrospective documentary would be just just so awful but why spend the money on rendering akira for retrospective documentary i'll take virtual fighter five final showdown like revision e at this point you know like there actually is a third option yeah it might literally just be a tournament so that's what i speculated when i first heard it it might literally just be a new tournament
Starting point is 03:25:08 alongside no updated version of the game to exist on modern platforms and it's like so we're running these tournaments off ps3's or or fucking judgment now i will say one thing woolly and i was holding on to this from before good and you gave me the perfect example which was like why would they re-render akira for you know a not game and need i remind you just last week or the week before we were talking about the shenmu online cg trailer yes yes this is true which was made for a game which i doubt ever existed so here's what we need to do is we need to get the crack internet detectives to zoom in on every pixel and see if they can discover in the same way that discovered they discovered the similarities between noctis and cloud see if we can find out if that akira model
Starting point is 03:26:10 is brand new or if that's just fucking dead or alive because they could have just grabbed dead or alive and did that because akira does exist in ps4 era he does have a model could be well anyway something's happening with retro fighter i miss playing as wolf and go and awi so much man when i fucking picked alblaze and he jumps on and like i'm dropping the quotes and he's saying them exactly as i'm like those things burnt in oh you mean start running now
Starting point is 03:27:13 my body is an unstoppable weapon if if you want if you guys don't know know you you guys need to fucking go down and check out the the leon refal win quotes because they're the worst pieces of dialogue at a fighting game listen they are incredible as much as as much as i am aware that he doesn't make allowances for old men i miss the vf2 version dude do you i don't make it a habit to fight the elderly well that's not even the best one anymore the best one is him diving to save ashiba inu as a car drives magically through the walls of the ring yeah grabs the dog rolls onto his back and the dog goes like does a stalk dog noise to go bark bark and he goes ha ha i'm the winner
Starting point is 03:28:32 like uh yeah yeah hey look it's karate man what's he gonna say hey june and hyena you know that's all you gotta say yeah hey you know who did it first brian fury or go did what or who did it best really who beats the fuck out of your body after the game is over oh who did it best uh i'd say go because go just fucking wails on the camera like it owes him money after the match i'd say it's it's go because it's so brian hits you harder but go is like way out of place in his own game he's walking away and then he gets a last one in
Starting point is 03:29:28 it's pretty fucking hood like when go showed up it's like this is the the mean virtual fighter character and it's like this isn't it's like a fucking vampire with here what the fuck like because it's like up until that point you're like okay the the general theme here is different parts of the world and it's like what's your theme zombie and mad zombie judo zombie mad judo um is i don't know what the story is or if he was ever confirmed to actually be a counterpoint to akira but it's a counterpoint to akira but it feels like it because it's just i am opposite like martial art but also undead and angry you know like i think i think uh the wolf akira rivalry stopped in three and it became the um the the akira go rivalry well yeah also because
Starting point is 03:30:30 it's wolf alblaze yeah you gotta do fucking uh uh uh you know lucha versus giant right and jeffrey and shark of course derral never quite getting you know the loved virtual fighters like the derral does not everything that even approaches the idea of a story in in virtual fighter is just the worst and i love it so much i mean look so awful they threw in a monk they threw in a monkey girl i'm like yeah i i'm on board with that yeah i lean school brad uh wong who who looks and wears the exact same clothes as shenmu as shenwu yeah anyway we'll see what this is before we get away from virtual fighter i'd like to say one thing about virtual fighter i'm a big big fan of the way virtual fighter handles its roster
Starting point is 03:31:44 because you'll get a new game and it'll add like in some cases as little as one character and with a single exception that eventually did come back you're like oh cool a new virtual fighter character this one's around forever there is no fear aside from taka players in in three two in two you got lion and shun d yeah and three you got taka and awi and then taka left until final showdown because throw animations are hard for fat people four got go and brad and then five got finessa uh no four got yeah four also got finesse yeah there was evo two four evo and then five and then five final showdown and then we had eileen blaze forget oh that oh jean jen kujo was final showdown oh yeah it was but like you went there's no fear
Starting point is 03:32:51 for shun dai players or jeffrey players or even eileen players that's like oh man i miss blank i miss that character i put a lot no if you want to play lough he's still there don't worry however unfortunately one of the reasons that you'll be you don't have to worry about your character not being in the next virtual fighter so they don't make it anymore i'm really excited to see what the new announcement is we'll find out shortly hopefully you know that's what it is um estaban was like hey man can you play darkstalkers again so that the next day they'll announce the the new one you know when they're like well you know this newfound power i do have to i do have to see and and learn the dark arts of it but i do kind of enjoy how a section
Starting point is 03:33:48 of this quick look can be dedicated to teaching the children about inputs like k plus g release g within one frame somebody somebody uh posted in i don't remember where it was seen uh but or where i saw it but they they posted a quote from the ancient fisticuffs we did on final showdown and it was me going see woolly was able to counter that with a low punch because he had set the situation up by attacking with a low punch that's those virtual fighter yeah no i i i i remember how like there there was a counter there's a like there was a point in time where just the introduction to like why do fighting game players fear virtual fighter as the the the deepest and scariest whole
Starting point is 03:34:53 to fall into and it's like well that's because when you go to vf4 evos tutorial one of the things it actually does not flinch at is explaining how you need to do a three-way option select to counter someone sidestep or low punch on wake up or throw attempt you need to actually throw attempt one is is the throw attempt one is one that they is one of the only things i can think of in all of virtual fighter history that they back down on they changed it um you used to have omni directional and by omni i mean eight directional throws and you needed to at like at least break two ideally break three directions to even approach 60 40 chance of breaking your throat on characters that could do it in eight directions like go or or wolf
Starting point is 03:35:54 and eventually they're like okay that's probably a lot what about neutral forward and back but you can only pick one is that better and the answer came back yeah fine sure i'll do that again players will be happy with a 66 chance of not getting a throw break unless they go giant swing every time everybody else goes it's the same fucking thing now i only just have to mash out one direction great i mentioned it before but phuto fucking virtual fighter god comes down and says hey what's this cute thing you guys got over here a street fighter let me check that out winziva win win oh cute it is on a name you must have heard before same thing it's kind of crazy um but i saw some pushback in because i saw some fgc players so fgc people
Starting point is 03:36:55 saying like um it's kind of a meme about how hard and deep virtual fighter is and it's it's creates a sense of unapproachability yeah and it's the it's the same thing as any other fighting game it's like the first 75 percent is not the end of the world you can do it 75 to 90 percent yeah it's a little tougher than the average fighting game but 90 to 100 percent get your glad your reading glasses it's done a shit ever right yeah um so i i get the i get that coming from the idea that it's like oh boy if it's that hard why even bother because it's like well no because at the level where you're just moving the stick around waggling and pressing the three buttons because it's a three button game um you're not going to worry about any of that none of that's going to
Starting point is 03:37:39 matter and that is true that stays consistent for any in every fighting game worrying about what the complexity of the top level has to do has no bearing whatsoever on baby's day out you know yeah virtual fighter more than almost any other fighting game i can think of i could feel different characters styles because the amount of sorry different people's styles because the amount of normals that you had access to meant that people tended to go towards things that they liked and like you know there's good advice like hey find out what the fastest move you have that is a good counter hit also right find out what is insanely rewarding when you counter hit with it so oh hey um tetsuzanko is a really nice move yeah tetsuzanko interrupting some other shit they're
Starting point is 03:38:34 doing fucking devastating and you go flying right like it's one of those things where i can't tell what it is about the series and why i like it but i look at my character who i mean wolf and the simplest move in the game is just a regular kick and you hit forward and kick and he does this super fast knee that if it touches anybody's character when they're in the middle of anything causes a super slow crumple to the ground which lets him do anything he wants including it comes out so fast that you can hit it on people and wake up or you can you can do a jab and then just do it and they'll it'll hit them and or his his uh kayfabe irish whip run yeah into larry it or whatever yeah um shout outs to you press a button but jackie was pressing
Starting point is 03:39:30 up that kick so goodbye life bar i feel if you were still making fighter pedia videos that there is a video in like can you believe they never nerfed that move well that move has been bullshit since like 1993 yeah also it has never changed also not only did they not nerf it but have you tried punching jackie while he's idle anytime recently he has an auto parry he just parries at my he auto parries a standing jab so you know um i hear that and i and i and i and i i i feel it i feel it deeply but i'm also thinking about sitting in mandalay bay watching tec and grand finals and watching paul go paul's right man and it's still happening to this day paul is still punching how many years is that what tec
Starting point is 03:40:43 and you're like the fucking paul punch is still a problem oh my god it beats everything it'll never not be a problem and they don't care reason to play paul they don't care and every time it happens everyone goes god fucking damn it it's so it hurts to those of you who don't play these games paul's hand and jackie's um flip and sarah's flip to a degree as well but all have the same thing it's not just that they're great it's not just that they're easy to perform it's that they're arguably the best move in the games that they're in they're and i mean every game that they're in and the they're not just easy to perform they're the easiest moves to perform and you might not immediately have a punish for blocking one
Starting point is 03:41:49 ready to go you know to this day to this day man oh shit yep well anyway it's fucking jack you'll do it point blank and look at certain characters it'll push you back so far that he's mostly safe when he lands if you'd like to see reggie if you'd like to see reggie discover how far that pushback can be tune in tune in he doesn't enjoy it the pushback is it's like what do you have do you have the tools do you know no do you not know uh well it's sorry it's a one frame sure you can that requires no input yeah um oh my god well anyway let's talk about virtual fighter so much let's take it over to um little part two on uh one of our stories from last week but we talked about how michel
Starting point is 03:43:03 Ansel was leaving the video game industry and i remember saying oh man i bet he's seeing what's going on at ubisoft and saying i don't need any of that shit i'm out of here and boy i didn't mean it how it ended up a follow-up story the day after was in uh libération a newspaper in france that apparently reported that um the leaving might have been tied to the fact that uh there was some bad news about to come out about him in terms of his mismanagement and some generally shitty behavior as uh as ahead of his projects yeah so when i said that what i thought i was saying was oh man everyone at ubisoft seems like a jerk i don't want to be associated with this company i'm out of here and what it actually was is oh no i'm a jerk
Starting point is 03:44:16 i should get out of here before i'm either forced out or horribly publicly shamed yeah um overall the sound it sounds like um like nothing like criminal or illegal in the in just to just to make sure that that's clear oh just crunch master jackass mostly employees getting burnt the fuck out uh screamed in a view and yelled at and just basically uh quitting unable to sort of uh uh getting getting rung dry is that you know um yes under crunch and things like that um cool not not the kind of thing you want to find out about someone who's done a lot of really good shit in video games it's not not great i i i feel like the funniest part about this
Starting point is 03:45:20 is that we went from last week with most of people going who to us going oh well he was a jerk so don't worry about it it's almost like ubisoft has a culture that normalizes people in positions of power abusing that power and oh and perhaps uh a system that uh takes complaints that are lodged against said employees in positions of power and has a very elaborate multi-step process by which they slowly fold the complaints into what eventually becomes a ball of rubbish and then throws them no net swish into the trash it takes a while to see the crumple the crumple is a it takes about a couple weeks of meetings back and forth some ndas get signed some some you know whispers here discussions there meetings more meetings um emails definitely
Starting point is 03:46:33 and then eventually after a lot of signing and talking and and and um essentially running in circles back and forth serious complaints touching base serious complaints get crumpled and thrown into the garbage uh once essentially the company is now no longer uh liable for whatever occurred so yeah all with respect to people involved in these stories i've heard first hand some fucking bullshit i'll always remember guys that human resources is there to protect your employer from a lawsuit they're not there to help you they're there to figure out a way that your complaint does not technically hold the company liable in case you want to sue them later for being totally liable well companies have human rights so you know the company is the human in
Starting point is 03:47:35 this instance isn't it no i don't abide by a single thing you just said and i believe neither does the law in the country that i live in so okay you know you haven't like isn't there that thing about like is it only in america where yes of course it's only in america where corporations have like human rights people yeah that's not a multinational thing no of course not why would you assume stupid like shit like that comes across the border because when i was in uh college we did a class about multinationals and our teacher went into uh some of those uh uh things some of those states existing um on paper and in de facto effect internationally um and based on the book we studied jihad and the versus mcworld mm-hmm so you know i remember learning about this in
Starting point is 03:48:38 college the the uh canadian version of that may in fact predate the american citizens united decision canana company have rights rights in the workplace now that's not helpful employer obligations i'm not going to get an answer to this by googling it all right well for what it's worth um these uh yeah these stories more or less involve people who uh would get belittled for their work work would get thrown out um lots of uh overall just you know uh again like not great treatment um not talking to you for a month calling your work worthless throwing shit out people getting burnt out etc and uh he did come out to defend himself on uh instagram i believe is the third update to the story but i'm reading a legal decision about this that i don't understand
Starting point is 03:49:49 it's too complicated okay um but yeah the the uh it seems that the story of of him leaving was uh kind of running from the uh the indiana jones ball that is bad man point is he going for the hat yeah let's just say yes well um i know how we'd said yes last last week too we we brought up the name and it was like a big ol who kind of reaction from a lot of the kids and i guess we returned to who yeah works for me all right well uh then we got some big old generation news so one playstation got some information coming out about the launch day allocation
Starting point is 03:50:54 uh yeah get ready to party there i may i bet they made lots of ps5's right sony has started informing online retailers that launch day allocation will result in some customers missing out on day one so i have never run a pre-order situation and i've never run a store it's great however this is i want to say eight days after pre-orders went live right maybe nine because we talked about it last week right mm-hmm is what possible reason is there to not have just waited the one week to just tell retailers how many they're getting before allowing pre-orders to be opened and then avoiding this problem entirely i think the question you want to ask is
Starting point is 03:52:11 what scenario excites the most people to run and throw their money in early because that's optimal for business limited supply i you know i'm not a businessman and i'm i'm not a business money person i don't understand how you make more money selling less i think it's not now now obviously when you preface something that way what you're about to say is generally something where it's like but poopy butt farts right it's like that's true you know um but i'm gonna go ahead and say that what we understand based on previous generations is a console factory will make x in x amount of time it takes this amount of time to make this many things so they know the exact rate at which they can create them and how much they can ship
Starting point is 03:53:16 every month uh however you definitely want to get as many people saying i want to buy one as early as possible so that you have the uh more or less like the promise and guarantee of that sale and who knows maybe they can use that to uh say let's get more factories let's increase production line let's do whatever we need to do internally because look how badly people want it and then ramp that shit up even more uh you know there's all kinds of internal shit that like they go through where they go let's not keep this level of production for the entire life cycle of this console obviously because it's not always going to be selling this hot but they have they balance between how much to start with and how much to maintain throughout the rest
Starting point is 03:54:13 of it it still doesn't make any sense because like i know that you want to like when you're releasing a game you're gonna you're gonna want to have a situation where you don't want to oversupply you don't want to uh what's called flood the channel oversupply is the worst yeah right because then oh shit but we're talking about a console that you're ostensibly going to support for at least six years just they'll the if you send out a little bit more you do but also the stock market's magic stupid rich people garbage aren't dependent on actual sales feelings just demand oh my god it's so stupid that's why announcements make the thing and sell it dumb dumps that's why announcements about like about things shoot prices up and down
Starting point is 03:55:07 because people have feelings about whatever company and whatever they're about to do it's why record breaking sales actually drop stock prices because they weren't quite as record breaking as uh stockholders wanted or ceo's getting lit hey do you want to hear what the update is of the current status of trying to buy a 3080 video card sure uh i currently so nioan stock is worthless i talked about that last week it is not good enough it is not fast enough it updates every minute it's not fast enough i'm now part of a discord which uses bots to scan the apis of various stores and will update it boy uh so what it does is it looks at the nvidia site and it says hey man did anything change on this front page
Starting point is 03:56:12 did the out of stock thing change to anything else and then if it does it pings right and it'll tell you what it pings a little it's like oh the out of stock prompt changed to an add to cart prompt okay so these are being bought up so quickly that the bot meant to let you know about the stock is causing situations where it pings a change and in the time it takes for the bot to read out what to write in what changed it's out of stock again so it goes something on amazon changed and then it reads what changed and it reads out of stock so it it's caught it's pinging all day messages like currently unavailable new content evga video card out of stock see buying options
Starting point is 03:57:19 i don't know how human beings are supposed to be able to purchase these um i hear what you're saying and i for some reason all i can think of is like if you ever decided to become a fucking crypto baron that was obsessed with that shit you could use your goblins to do all kinds of incredible things oh i appreciate that i will give nvidia some credit they have um so remember i talked about last week how i believed they were full of shit when they talked about changing their website nvidia their home store has actually changed very significantly you have to get through multiple captures to buy anything um and the servers have the website has not actually
Starting point is 03:58:11 crashed in quite some time uh as a result some human beings have been able to buy their video cards however most of the time they are bought up instantaneously by even more sophisticated robots well humans getting some is good yes this is this is an improvement the war against the machines has already begun well but it's the ability to buy sick machine parts to have better make them so stronger because you want your toys to go good i want i want my toy meanwhile over at xbox big news great news everyone xbox sales are up 747 percent on amazon really i saw like 900 with the new announcements xboxes are selling like fucking hotcakes guys that's crazy good for xbox playstation can
Starting point is 03:59:22 struggle with its shipments all at once microsoft is here to crush it and absolutely take back the generation so which which skew sold more on amazon was it the series s or the series x actually it was the x bone x what what do you mean the x bone x aka the xbox one x not the series x has a sales rank increase of 747 percent as of the 22nd of september on amazon therefore selling item in video games of the day of the pre-orders once pre-orders were opened a fuck ton of people probably parents went out and bought themselves or their kids some xbox and they typed the word xbox in and they saw an xbox and they clicked the button and they went christmas shopping is over i did it it was actually cheaper than i thought honey um we don't have to worry get the wrapping paper we
Starting point is 04:00:36 sorted it out we can relax months ahead of schedule in fact you know how we were thinking that like hey we uh we might have to just get the games later i think we saved enough money we can maybe get some of those games now don't you think let's go get some of those new games yeah that one and then fast forward to december 25th when the kid unwraps his brand new xbox which looks exactly like the xbox he already owns alongside a bunch of games that don't work because the stupid fucking naming convention that microsoft refuses to give up on is just the latest step in parent confusion marketing and anyone who said anything about no no it's fine can shut the fuck up and look at the evidence
Starting point is 04:01:45 of the name already confusing the shit out of people before the fucking console exists so i will say there are people that say this was their plan all along this will help get rid of old stocks of the xbox no it's not because once the actual new system is out this will be a for real ass problem trying to sell their console does everyone remember the Wii U does everyone remember how the average consumer literally couldn't figure out what the Wii U was ever the whole life cycle of the device now there are still people out there right now who think the Wii U was the fucking tablet for the part of this problem gets alleviated brick and mortar if the store stops stocking the old console
Starting point is 04:02:38 part of this problem goes away if the person walks in and says give me the xbox and then they only have the new one but that's not always what happens and when you're online especially which a lot of people are shopping online now these days it's kind of crazy uh you don't get that luxury you click on whatever you think you want to buy and then you buy it so if you type in xbox on amazon right now the first result is xbox one s terabyte console and it even looks similar to the xbox series s do you see have you seen the logo for xbox series s slash x i haven't it's it was where was it dropped it was uh they just announced samurai showdown and i saw the the new logo and it says xbox series s slash x
Starting point is 04:03:41 and and and it's just like right off the bat it is like you're looking at what should be information about what this is going to be but it's like you're using the exact same letters that your last console had attached to it after the original one like like the xbox one x screenshots and the xbox one s but even so they do look significantly different to people like us but they're both rectangular white boxes with a big like uh exhaust poor exhaust grill on one side of them like a casual descriptor you know get the one that has the big uh exhaust thing you know for the fan on the front can it can you find that logo for me what is the xbox series x um it was at the end of the samurai showdown trailer holy shit it's just the regular xbox logo with the word series
Starting point is 04:04:53 and the letter slash x after it it just doesn't it just doesn't like i don't know why they would do this well i do but it's it's like it's it's watching it happen and unfold in slow just agonizing fashion it's gonna exist the entire time um yes the consoles do look different like you said to us uh but it's not even about that it's about the fact that the difference between the old and new generation is like the word one in between xbox and and and the letter um holy shit i didn't even like the s has the slash through it the same on both versions like it's the same s even anyway um the font isn't even different anyway i i this is gonna be a disaster i don't i don't quite understand well anyway i just like
Starting point is 04:05:57 the of the three things that you have to look at in the title you have the word xbox then you have one and then you have x and like if in any other circumstance if you're just like oh like you said playstation one playstation two three four five etc it's like the number is the thing it's the sequel to the last thing and then that's the end of the thought we're out of here in this case the the name in the the the word in the middle of the title is what's changing and the word one is changing to series and xbox x or xbox s like we are struggling with this and my mom still doesn't understand exactly what a podcast is i i legitimately made the mistake multiple times on twitter and people were people are trying to correct me and i'm like i don't get it oh i don't
Starting point is 04:06:47 understand well anyway um the new gen the next gen is off to uh a really great really great really great pre start i remember seeing uh some guy's facebook post that was like hey dumbass as i got the new xbox you all need to get a better job if you're too poor to get this and it's like a screenshot of the wrong one it's happened before it'll continue to happen it's happening again you know and like is it some cost fallacy at this point oh microsoft doesn't change things they're like we've already gone three previous generations of four previous generations of this mic microsoft takes like three years to change anything you have to remember and i'm sure you're well aware that microsoft is the kind of company that believes in the tribe
Starting point is 04:07:55 to those who aren't aware the mic the microsoft employees are recommended to live on the in the redmond campus and really you know community up and be part of the tribe and being part of the tribe means only using products that the company supplies yeah because why else is you know support the tribe and like a lot a lot of the really insane shit you hear out of microsoft is because well you know it's for the tribe you know yeah and it's this weird like cult like thing where it's like well you know the the campus uh in redmond has everything you want you got a barber you got a dentist you all this stuff none of this matters right because listen the point is this playstation lets you down didn't it yeah xbox is gonna let you down isn't it oh yeah you need something new
Starting point is 04:08:55 i do need something new you need something basos that's the i was wondering what the adjective you were gonna use was that's like oh okay all right i thought you're gonna say you need something from the moon you need a stadia killer yeah i pulled up an article for woolly before the the podcast started that in the google results called luna a stadia killer but then you click on the article and i guess they changed that because of how stupid that is introducing luna amazon's cloud gaming service where it's easy to play great games on devices you already own no waiting for lengthy downloads or updates just play
Starting point is 04:09:55 get yourself one of these controllers it looks like a switch controller to be fair what are you gonna do controllers are a solved problem are they not at this point can we just say as an aside controllers are we're gonna put the the the right analog stick uh there and we're gonna uh the left analog stick will go um we're gonna put on the bottom this no the top the top this time i love hey yeah no we can definitely take a second to uh to enjoy the the the likes of something being a stadia killer in the same way that humanity is a dinosaur killer you know like hi that's true like oh man did you did you see that fucking red we wiped him out we won that war did you see that fucking thread on on the stadia subreddit oh it was it was the Bethesda
Starting point is 04:10:57 oh yeah by microsoft thing and it's like stadians i think we have i think we should start worrying the most important uh-huh the most important reveal of the stadia subreddit being worried about microsoft buying Bethesda is not that they're worried about that actual transaction but it's that they call themselves stadians oh yeah oh yeah baby love it listen man um i don't know about you but i'm about to fucking start the northern chapter the canadian stadians the kestadians i found it i found it i found it i found it i've been looking for this tweet i've been looking for this tweet that sums i don't even have to talk about this topic anymore because i i scrolled down and found the mr field tweet that summed it
Starting point is 04:11:55 up before i even heard about the fucking thing shout out to mr field it's honestly wild ride that's at mr field's wild ride it's honestly pretty brave of amazon to see stadia slam into the wall and everyone in the stadia car burn alive after their bones were all crushed to gravel and go no we can do it we're different i learned about the luna from that tweet that is that is beautiful that is beautiful you know i i i i'm a fan of of these uh these all star accounts on twitter where you just you you get to take all summed up you know for you i don't have to i don't have to formulate my own take i can just take this person's take and say that i agree with it and now it's my take too and the best part is is that like even if they cringe listening to our shit oh yeah
Starting point is 04:12:53 i still get to enjoy the quality content that they put out so it's great i enjoy it it's it's uh it's it's just oh it's good it doesn't have to be reciprocal it can be one way google is a tech company why would amazon think that you amazon the fucking company that their game studio had to fucking unrelease the first game they ever put out okay okay okay so the amazon luna is dropping its details it's showing you a list of titles right off the bat it's showing you stuff like fury sonic mania control grid indivisible blasphemous uh plague tail etc right surge two they've got a bunch of real games in there okay so 599 a month um is is what they're pitching for this right but there's something
Starting point is 04:13:54 about it that's particularly uh unique excuse me from stadia because when we talked about this we talked about the fact that you're paying for a subscription service to then go and purchase games that are not real that are fake games that you don't own because you don't own them because they're not real but you bought them and they're there but they're not there and you can get your metadata to say that you bought the game but you don't own the game you don't own anything you bought nothing so this is the state of stadia so when it comes to the luna right it's very curious because what they seem to be pitching here is an idea that there is the luna um plus access where you get library of games to play streaming two devices play on uh uh uh play for unlimited hours uh
Starting point is 04:14:45 1080p 60 fps or 4k coming soon but they have a second option that's not detailed yet called the ubisoft channel and this implies that there can be or will be plans for company specific channels so that you are getting company specific game passes congratulations amazon you looked at stadia and you said that business model is terrible you know what we need to do we need to take the ever wonderful and popular cable tv model and bring that to video games you got your ub pass channel you got your ea channel you got your fucking uh uh uh uh your act your active blizzard channel your the whole the whole thing you got every individual company potentially selling you a channel that you can sign up for to play all of the games
Starting point is 04:15:54 within that company's library as a split separate add-on to your service um woolly aren't there like thousands of game publishers theoretically how many games from a publisher are you willing to pay for every month versus the cost of the full game i can't see a way that this can ever make any money i can see i can i can how if it's actually latency free if the actual thing that stadia said it would do ends up being real in this instance and if the default lineup that you get under their luna plus 599 thing includes a significant amount of games that people uh would want what i can't see is people necessarily um
Starting point is 04:17:04 um going in on 599 for every single company that they want to play games from but this is a ridiculous notion that doesn't exist yet and we don't know how this is gonna uh uh uh so so i should what new what new method of flop will we will we bear with this too is the question mentioned what's up when i say i can't see a way that this makes any money i don't mean this concept okay i mean this physically this thing i mean this one okay um and to answer your your your statements about well if it is latency free and well the this fucking podcast is being broadcast on amazon servers and isn't latency free correct also i have to locally record every single one of my streams now after the amazon servers shit all over themselves and lost
Starting point is 04:18:08 the most important cutscenes in my remake stream i had to rerecord it are you saying you don't think amazon's the one i'm saying that i don't think that amazon is the one that's right guy from chat i also can't wait to see the lab zero channel for 599 a month i mean it really is interesting um because like game pass does currently exist and it's by all counts a uh uh i don't know if everyone at home is familiar with i know you are the term lost leader okay pass is completely dominant in its uh in its uh in its field of do you want to pay a subscription for a bunch of free games there's absolutely no question that it is like a great
Starting point is 04:19:25 deal other than the fact that i look at it and go there's no way they're going to be able to keep this up most people uh seem to enjoy uh game pass because of the selection they get to choose from and the the you know the the fact that they can play it on both their xbox or on pc uh but we can add another bullet point to that list of uh thing of pros you get to actually download the game yeah that you want and it runs locally you you get to actually actually download it hey willy do you wanna do you want to hear my uh you want to hear my tin foil hat moment i talked about this on stream a few days ago when i learned about the luna all right willy what are you what are you streaming this week probably streaming uh some um um um
Starting point is 04:20:24 sushima some fighting games you know some good stuff yeah sush now what if i don't know let's say you were playing uh the halo right playing the odds you're not playing that this week i don't think but you say next week right you're playing that halo and people on your stream are watching you on amazon's twitch and say boy that sure does look fun that willy's playing that halo and a little text box comes up says hey did you know that you could click this button and play halo right now no downloads you could play that halo right now just click this button and sign up for luma luna luma luna and it'll be a little drop-down box underneath the game title and then the people in your chat are gonna go
Starting point is 04:21:28 i already own odst or fuck that i'll get on a steam sale that's fucking stupid i'm imagining that and that's how they'll make a big success i'm imagining um um let's like if if someone were to actually run with this and we got company channels i i i'm imagining a world where someone signs up um subscribes to the ub channel and then spends the month binging all ubi games and then on the 29th doesn't re-up and then on the first of the month they jump over to ea and then they play all the battlefield not battlefield um a battlefront and uh uh uh cod that they want and then they cancel that shit and jump on to the next one on the next month i'll see willy that's why single player games are dying
Starting point is 04:22:37 but then if you're gonna pivot to multiplayer games why would you ever that's subscribe to more than one company's multiplayer service is there no happy medium between holy shit that's a ripoff and holy shit how are you making money you idiots no no is there no is there no middle ground the only middle ground i could see is if it was game pass was like uh had multiple tiers and it was like hey do you want to spend 40 dollars a month but you can play everything versus hey you spend 10 dollars a month and you can play two games or whatever like there's no way to make the math work what like it's like what there's a reason why people buy things would it be like divided by genre would genre make it okay like
Starting point is 04:23:30 sports package racing package rpg package you know like i don't even know it might be the the most horrible classification of anything ever i could argue i i could like what is a role playing ours on on what a rpg what is a role yes yes this is true this is true not only because movies you just have what do you see with your eyeballs and how do you classify that and then games have the movie make you feel and then but then uh uh uh video games have all of the above plus what are you doing with the controller and when so yeah action adventure well hey um good luck luna god bless uh may your war
Starting point is 04:24:25 smite the stadiums may you uh crush their empire or what remains of it may you flatten and raise their fields and uh slay their cattle so that they may no longer feast and we'll see where this new amazon luna world takes us and well they do you want to hear the most baffling exclusivity arrangement yet uh the one that todd howard just signed nope the one that sega signed okay you see this yakuza one no this is legitimately baffling yakuza seven will be coming out on the 10th ish 13th for the xbox one the xbox series whatever the playstation four and the pc on i think november 10th and i think the 13th for the
Starting point is 04:25:42 series because the that's when it releases it will be coming to the ps5 in march of next year here microsoft literally bought exclusivity for next gen the just the ps5 no oh shit that's wild also uh uh you get a free upgrade of the ps4 version to the ps5 version when it comes out but your saves don't transfer this okay so and it's and it's only in north america in japan it'll obviously be on ps5 i remember long ago when exclusivity in the industry like was very clear because we saw it with nintendo for years and it clearly meant what nintendo said it meant which is what it said in the corner only on nintendo you want a nintendo game buy
Starting point is 04:26:45 a nintendo thing it's the only way you're going to play donkey kong there's no other way you're going to play it that's it exclusivity meant this one thing existed in this one place now it means we are anti-clusivity we are shooting one version in the head and killing it dead for a while when i saw that the uh when i saw the the ps5 version was the one that got delayed i was like ah crap i wanted to get on pc only to be shocked that the pc version is coming out is fine on the on the fucking 13th yeah yeah no like shocked the industry we live in now is one of direct competition between two companies that don't give a fuck about anyone else and they don't even give a fuck about whatever the other competitors like literally all i care about
Starting point is 04:27:49 is your new shit your old shit doesn't matter to me fuck your new shit i've never seen anything like it that's crazy it's like it's the weirdest and also people are like out of all the exclusivity deals i've seen a while people are super pissed off because i don't know if you know this but you can play every single yakuza game on the ps4 including this one this is a this is a series that has been exclusive to sony's consoles since like 2004 i think yakuza zero recently came out on xbox maybe like it's it's really weird god damn i wish castle vat cox still existed we're gonna grab the exclusive at the seventh game which is actually like the 15th or 16th these are the kind of plot twists in the industry that make me really miss
Starting point is 04:28:44 castle vit cons yeah we wait anthropomorphize this easy we wait not to murder your children but for your your second born we wait for the new one and we we we fucking i don't know dude like there's something to it just we don't care about whatever is going on currently it's just that one fuck that one i wonder if it applies to europe oh my god region north america ps5 only oh yeah japan's gonna get on ps5 day and day of course so yakuza game oh wow oh yeah oh this is the this industry is the wackiest shit ever this is the wildest this is the wildest yakuza seven ps5 europe don't let americans get it for their ps5 when they're excited about the new console so i gotta promote the title exclusive leaving playstation fans as it turns out uh you'd like
Starting point is 04:29:54 a dragon we'll be getting an upgrade on ps5 ps5 upgrade path is also being planned for a western release okay so it's it's western and japan uh but hold on a minute no ps5 if i imagine has the same region free settings as ps4 sure but the japanese version would not include english on it but what about the hong kong the chinese version i don't know the hong kong specific release of games that come out in asia that always has english on it every time i don't know the yakuza series actually has a long history of getting fucking kicked out of those regions does it yeah because that's the way to get access to a game in japan and japanese first is to just get the fucking hk version i think the saddest i think the saddest one is um
Starting point is 04:30:52 i think the saddest one is that they in yakuza uh six they had a really cool korean character that had uh a famous korean actor play him specifically so that they can market the game in south korea and then like two days before the game came out south korea banned it uh it uh what it was like you're portraying koreans as criminals get the get this fucking shit out of here damn it's like the guy looks like virgin because uh yeah the the grand blue drop if you wanted it early uh you fucking got that hk release you jumped on play asia bought yourself some hk um um codes and you just got it and it was english as fuck and that's been the case for a lot of shit you know um that you could uh do thanks to the play asias uh you know buy whatever um
Starting point is 04:31:55 hk specific psn codes but damn okay all right wow what a yeah you're right that is the weirdest exclusivity deal i've ever heard of i i should mention by the way that um 99 percent of all koreans and chinese folk in the yakuza series are portrayed as evil dirty criminals um and in yakuza six i believe um there's a like a story sequence in which kiryu learns the lesson that it's like you know i thought you were evil just because you were chinese but i learned that that's not necessarily the case for all of you wow how about that these are almost direct quotes damn that's so like that's that's why so when korea is like fuck off like yeah okay why doesn't why doesn't kiryu just like why doesn't he fight the real evil and it's not the people
Starting point is 04:32:53 it's it's the it's the governments i should you know what actually let's roll it back the entire plot of yakuza six is a baby like fighting the curse of being chinese wait hold on hold on as in like his not magic not magical no but the the curse of his chinese uchiha blood kind of yeah yeah actually it compels him to violence no no it's a baby it is a baby okay okay it is an infant and like the entire plot kicks off because oh no that that baby's chinese we gotta kill it and then other people are like no holy fuck dude because that baby is chinese that's fucking insane you can talk to people who played yakuza six like that is actually the plot it's fucking crazy see but if it's a baby then at least you get the clear um plausible deniability
Starting point is 04:34:05 on your story because it's like everyone's saying that can just be out of their minds whereas if you wait for don't worry it applies to the it applies to the parents and the grandparents and almost everyone in the story but i mean but i mean like if you wait for rock Howard to grow up then you find out that oh no his evil burning geese blood really does compel him to evil so if everyone's like that baby god has got to go and and then the game is like these people are crazy because they're saying that baby has to go but then the baby grows up and it's like oh no the baby really does have to go that's a bad do you understand the difference between the crazy of the people in the story versus the the world and the camera confirming what they're saying to be true
Starting point is 04:34:57 what the fuck is this franchise dude it's the most japanese franchise around for good and ill it is made by a japanese team that makes a successful game and does not give a shit so you play it and you go oh my god these dudes are fucking dinosaurs i mean have you seen how westerners are portrayed in that series i have not it's hilarious i i you know this time is when you know like i'm playing sushi and i'm just i'm like i wonder how modern day mongolia feels about this video game you know and then you're like well it is history but the same can't be said of ryo ga gotoku that's not history that's not real hell no it's not that that series is a fucking trip and watching it progress as it became more
Starting point is 04:36:07 popular and as negotiate totally for realsies didn't become super good friends with a bunch of real yakuza seeing like the heroism of crime families just kept kicked up up up up well the the real the final stage is where you get to that passion a level where it's like we're a gang to stop the drugs that's what it's about we have to become a gang to protect the people of idly i believe that is an element of two games plots of course because that's what's happening with drugs in japan right now right the gangs are actually teaming up to stop the drugs and are totally not having wicked sick drone battles
Starting point is 04:37:06 with cops because drugs have escalated to a point where drop-offs are being done with drones and so police have countered with their own drones to stop the drug delivery drones but now which means the drug dealers are using their own drones to stop the anti drone drones when pressed for comment police statement was released they're having the most fun they've had in years in all honesty as as like hilarious and goofy as that is the idea of criminal versus law enforcement activity being taken like literally off the street doesn't sound like that bad of a thing proxy war with your drone battles right like when you don't have saga guys in the street that could possibly pull a piece fucking sag instead have you have toys fighting in midair like oh
Starting point is 04:38:09 yeah okay that that seems like a legitimate improvement also judgment totally called that literal sky crimes that's true the amount of the amount of drone focus in that game is huge like the level and lengths that people will go to just so you can get fucking high you know like yeah i can see how this fast forwards to a state where astral chain versus scope dog scope dog drug running and the fucking the astral chain department chasing it down as we escalate just all in the name of dropping off a fucking eight ball to some rich asshole well anyway it's good times let's get some letters and get out of here we're we're running all right hey if you want to send
Starting point is 04:39:18 in a letter long send in to castle super beast mail gmail.com where does the time go uh we got one coming in from nepwar says dear beast cast overall humans got pretty good stats and attributes all things considered but i think we missed out on not learning the marking p trait being able to mark your things so that no one takes it and recognizes them as a legal system is a legit way to claim ownership that would make things easier in my opinion bombsliffing dog dropouts can find jobs in a urine marking society creating at least a dozen jobs and lowering unemployment i love how every stupid idea is always just at the end is like and it would lower unemployment
Starting point is 04:40:08 be good for the economy piss markings listen listen i pee on my own stuff i'm not going to pay somebody else to pee on my stuff for me i mean some places have going rates some talk to jim norton about that one yeah but um hey i think we can do a little bit better than uh i like fucking straight up whip the dick out and mark your territory i think we can i think we can maybe do a little bit better um but it is true that animals do kind of you know it does cut to the chase yeah i mean but also you know what animals do like elmo is a cat elmo needs to mark his territory there's no necessary need to actually piss all over that's for extra extreme situations
Starting point is 04:41:09 you could just i don't know rub your face on it because cats have sent things on their heads see but now we enter a world where um like a you're gonna need to well for one smell matters more and anyone who doesn't have a sense of smell is fucked right that's that's me hey so being blind in society right now there's things you can do but it's not great uh not having a sense of smell it doesn't matter you might as well just be normal but now not having a sense of smell means you're missing out on a whole layer of society um second is uh sent crimes so i grabbed myself a piss bottle of your piss and i spray that shit at the crime scene that i've just committed yeah and now we got ourselves a little frame going on all right so i have i have an obvious question
Starting point is 04:42:09 how did you get my piss bottle no i didn't get your piss bottle i got a bottle and i put your piss in it okay could you explain how that occurred you used the bathroom somewhere in my vicinity uh-huh and i didn't flush and you just ran in there as fast as you could uh i collected it uh with uh you used the bathroom in a public place and failed already you you specifically okay all right um well because let's say you let's say someone is not exactly the cleanest and they leave a bit of a mess behind okay yeah good and that's good enough to reverse engineer the identity of said individual why don't we just skip the piss and just move on to like like like taint grease or something well because you get like you you you like do a jumping jack and then you grab your hand
Starting point is 04:43:10 and get a good old good old scrape a taint grease you just rub that on something because you can feel that on a surface i send in a silent drone to grab one of the many piss bottles surrounding your feet right now and i now have evidence to frame you with because i've acquired one of the LTG piss bottle thing going on well i mean most assuredly i would you know what you know i love steal one of your every time we do this every time we do this woolly i always look over and see the phrase come on guys i'm eating and all i can think of is like this precedent has been set that's your fault that was your error i started this i started this i have supreme confidence that if we were to dig backwards to long enough yeah the first instances wherever they may be
Starting point is 04:44:18 from one episode one and up that yeah the extension of the bit the keep it going fill for time yeah talk about bought body fluids is 100 ball in your court no woolly woolly woolly i don't mean you i mean the person who thinks they can listen to this podcast with a weak stomach while eating oh yeah you should know better by now like it was you that caused that situation to happen where taint grease and food were combined yes into one smelly but owned piece of food also like you should be able to handle a little piss talk while you're eating that's not a big deal come on it's good for you it's just a little yellow it ain't that bad it's just a little snow flavor no nothing you know you can handle that um anyway
Starting point is 04:45:21 it's just a little moldy potato and uh we'll just take another one over here from court saying dare sassel cooper beast growing up by what now oh no no we're talking about people eating while listening to this podcast how stupid that is careful you're not eating moldy potatoes person at home because you definitely wouldn't want to have you definitely wouldn't want to throw up your mold while listening to piss because i was just telling people that it's no big deal it's just a little piss talk yeah it's still a piss talk man i can't ruin nothing and then and then and then they came for me it's just a little fuzz between your teeth and then i and then who was left to defend me
Starting point is 04:46:39 yeah when i wouldn't defend the others before me let's see there you go yeah i i'm i'm one of the i i'll admit i'm kind of a jackass about that because i like hearing awful things does nothing to my stomach at all seeing yeah sure right but hearing yeah whatever i have a very vivid imagination yeah well anyway let's just take this last one and get out of here sassel cooper beast growing up i often had milk and cereal separate but this was because i was a slow eater and cereal will get soggy by the time i got halfway through it and i largely accredited this to adhd sometime until later in high school i realized i was actually allergic of grains and oats and such and it wasn't until college that i found that my grandfather had something called
Starting point is 04:47:29 oral allergy syndrome which means that stuff like fresh fruits vegetables and other common things have an effect on me uh while i'm completely comfortable being called a villain i thought it'd be interesting to hear that not all crazy food stuff is because a crazy sometimes your damage indicator is your own health and you just don't realize it yeah sometimes it's your body has failed you um but let it be known that when you're acting like a crazy person with your cereal just because it's your brain that also means your body has failed you just a part of your body closer to the top of your head also whenever a super villain has one of these weird traits it's not always by choice many times it'll be like oh yeah this weird bond villain was born with this
Starting point is 04:48:17 weird condition so they do this weird thing and that makes them a super villain but also their choices but you know there's a lot of them where they're like yeah but also they kind of have this weird thing about them so what are you gonna do think about every bond villain ever right like so just because you're born with it doesn't mean you're not evil that's right all right we'll leave it there I literally just got the update hey guys the fucking g-force 3080 is out of stock that's the update thanks robot thanks I appreciate it well keep on keeping on oh
Starting point is 04:49:47 so you you

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.