Castle Super Beast - CSB 098: Fully Voiced Hobocop Saves The Week

Episode Date: December 16, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 secondary ah ha hey hey a h all right
Starting point is 00:00:35 let's let's just get right to it then so small talk time I feel like shit do you feel like shit talk I I feel kind of great feel good good I feel good I just woke up from a nap good naps are good naps are good for for stopping the shit feeling but you know whatever that's a luxury that you could afford I I unfortunately cannot nap with me the lady naps with me big nap pile the cat was there nice very nice nice yeah not all smells
Starting point is 00:01:08 not enough sleep to a lot of work too much stuff it is what it is I'll tell you what Willie you you you would be happy that we're doing this podcast remotely today because I am having some chili based troubles oh boy okay um do you have it's described walking into the bedroom this morning as thinking the dog shit on the floor so you're not able to locate it to just just the bathroom then
Starting point is 00:01:34 I'm able to locate solid matter to the bathroom okay well but I'm I I am exuding an aura okay of damage see um it's bad yeah I I do punch mom the the the pleasure of of not uh inflicting her with toxic there are times when I'm like but I I make sure that from time to time I I just I let her know I remind her I go by the way
Starting point is 00:02:07 you could have gotten nuclear poisoning today but you didn't because I didn't I didn't nuclear I don't play that way you know and I generally don't drop blight town on her but I let her know that I could have and it would have been real rough every once in a while you you hit one of those where you're just like damn if anyone were around for this whoof you know I'd go to jail yeah so you just put you just you just you do have to
Starting point is 00:02:42 you gotta bear a witness and if you you know at the very least let let someone let her let him know about about you know the kindness that you're that you're I have specifically not eaten anything uh since this morning so that I don't have the situation where the chili continues to fight me and kick me out of this podcast for 25 minutes so so I might be hungry big smells around the house myself and and that's even before getting to cyberpunk that's before but I'll be right before we get into cyberpunk
Starting point is 00:03:23 we should really talk about anything else we want to talk about because that's going to go right into news okay what's this about tim rogers okay that was actually my lead into cyberpunk okay so we'll hold on to that fine for a second okay uh then seems like played this week yes ready go okay I play project wingman on the pc that's ace combat made by like two people it's really really impressive for a game made by like two or three people
Starting point is 00:04:00 okay it's kind of incredible because it's like 80 90 percent of the way there right away oh okay uh and everybody is telling me that the story goes right off the rails about halfway through the game in a way that everybody likes like the good off the rails you know okay so project wingman if you think that's cool you should check it out I played hyrule warriors age of calamity have you played this I downloaded it and I haven't installed
Starting point is 00:04:32 but I haven't actually booted it up yet I've had no don't bother it's really good it's really good it is much better than hyrule warriors yeah it is like it plays more and more like a real action game um it's and it's really good everybody uses their ipad in a different way like the four main powers is urbosa cool right yeah urbosa is really cool urbosa has exceed that's good urbosa has nero's exceed that's fucking fantastic it's great I was going to call her umbasa for a second you don't play it you know how uh
Starting point is 00:05:09 nintendo told their devs to start prepping their games for 4k and that is the assumption that a more powerful version of the switch is coming that will perform better definitely wait for that because that game is dying when you play it it is way worse than hyrule warriors ever was in terms of frame rate muso on switch suffering yep makes sense it is it is your your your switch is sweating I had a friend of mine tell me that the switch that he holds in his hand he plays it undocked
Starting point is 00:05:47 becomes physically hot yeah hot right um you can somebody in chat saying you can totally crash it I believe that so uh wait a year it'll still be good there might be more dlc right but maybe there'll be a better way to play it uh I played wasteland 3 that game seems cool they clean that up since it's original release that's basically fallout 3 or fallout 4 if you count new vegas is fallout 3 um as you were talking about just like like um
Starting point is 00:06:26 indie dog fighting type games I'm reminded of uh uh uh I saw a tweet for uh what's it called zodiac xx um this insanely super stylish game and I believe uh kid rad is behind it uh well kid read on twitter not the not the webcomic I think ethan red is is the name but um super duper stylish awesome look in trailer for that uh take a peek at that this right now looks looks super hot and uh that's the dude who made the tweet that was like hey stop talking about graphics and start talking about
Starting point is 00:07:03 art direction I was like yeah yeah I like that idea it's good anyway just squeezing that in there yeah squeeze in there okay uh also I play oh god I had the list open oh I've been playing more yakuza like a dragon can't say anything because of spoilers but I will say that yakuza like a dragon in one of the final chapters has one of if not the greatest jrpg boss fight of all time it is legitimately incredible in both its context its payout its mechanics my god it's so fucking incredible you have pulled out all the stops in
Starting point is 00:07:54 positive speak about this game I can't imagine I can't imagine what it is or how good it possibly can be oh the music um what I can say is two things I like the fact that I think a lot of this is probably based on the fact that it doesn't take itself seriously thus the fact that you can make any moment comedic or parody strengthens whatever it's trying to do immeasurably oh but it does take itself deadly seriously okay and that's that's the trick
Starting point is 00:08:37 and uh yakuza has two moments zany clown shit and hyper serious crime melodrama which they all do right yeah yeah um and I think I saw something that like a bit of a like an okay I think I see now uh moment was um I believe mr feels uh put out some put out a tweet saying this is the persona game where you're in an adulthood that we all wanted that thing yeah we talk about where it's like adults doing that that style of gameplay you know the youngest member of your of your canon party is like a 35 year old woman
Starting point is 00:09:23 and the oldest member is like a 59 year old man that's that's beautiful and almost everybody fits in there and most of them are 40 plus like I like it's it's it's how like think about how few games there are like particularly out of japan that like treat ages like real and not like anime ages you know yeah I know anime 15 like totoro versus like like real adults in in this franchise for example although let's be real the the the 21 year old uh uh Kiryu I'm playing as is a hell of a 21 year old
Starting point is 00:10:04 yeah it happens the yakuza series but you know Dodd is is kind of the outlier on that so I've been saying that series is an rpg since like yakuza 2 because you get into goddamn random battles it's just you fight them in an action thing instead of an rpg system yeah but I mean you fight random battles you level up you go to the store to get health potions right like those are absolutely rpgs but like Kiryu in yakuza 1 is like 40 okay like yeah that series starts with a 40 year old man who lost half his life to prison there you go because you see I was
Starting point is 00:10:43 about to say like no one's fucking like yeah I just not no one but I guess I just whenever the the media that I think of comes up to mind right to the forefront you don't really hang out with people in their 40s and if you do they're like ancient dying dinosaurs on the way out and like you end up with people who are like Sid in ff7 who's fucking 30 there's a moment where a character looks to Ichiban who is 42 and says dude you've got a long way to go but you'll get there and it's like the start of Ichiban's
Starting point is 00:11:20 journey is at fucking 42 that's great now as somebody who's 34 now and was terrified of being 40 and made my mom cry because I would make fun of her for turning 40 um 40 has seemed to be the moment where your life is over um and jrpgs of our youth really helped that perspective with um you know all the old man and Sid is the the ultimate yeah but like it's not just our youth like
Starting point is 00:11:54 25 years later I'm playing 13 sentinels and adults in that game are like 28 22 you know like you're at 28 and you're acting like you've seen like well I mean whatever like people in their in their late 20s early 30s are behaving the way someone in their mid 50s on the way out is you know in these types of stories um it's kind of crazy so yakuza good excellent boss fight very good boss fight I like a boss fight so good I shed a tear because the boss fight was so good good good continue to make you cry it's good
Starting point is 00:12:39 now it's time for a tim roger story um as I eat I can squeeze in a you know you you should probably squeeze I can squeeze in a shit week yeah um yeah squeeze your shit weekend have you tried charging your your your ps5 dual sense with anything but the original uh charge wire I actually have a charging dock okay well um be aware that uh if you don't have like for some reason basically I had some um I had my old ps3 charge wire going in from the back of the ps5 I extended it
Starting point is 00:13:18 and then put the short usb-c converter and through it no no I'm hearing a lot of things that you're not supposed to be doing well so essentially it like I had an I extended and then put the old thing on it and uh and did that and I was like oh this is not working okay and yeah like there's a lot of basically there's a lot of um the new new new usb tech needs to be uh uh you need to get a good wire and uh what works really good is the one that you use with your um uh uh oculus because that's a
Starting point is 00:13:55 fucking high fidelity uh usb-c that'll just it'll be great but um yeah no I realized that because dollars from monopress yeah the problem I the one that it comes the ones that it come with are way too far away for where my for my setup you know like oh they're very short they're very very short and I realized I'm like oh man I've been stocking up on usb type bs for fucking 10 years now but c's are now the majority of of what controllers are on here and I don't have these headphones use a mini and I hate
Starting point is 00:14:29 it yeah I could totally transition all the way to see except for this except for these yeah they're there on and you know the next generation is probably gonna have them although the fucking apple um I don't know if you've seen those but the apple apple over the ear air pods uh are gonna I think they're probably using proprietary lightning still um oh they oh yeah they are because apple's a bunch of shits yeah coming up you I mean you can you can cop those for a solid eight hundred and seventy five dollars if you're
Starting point is 00:14:58 feeling it oh nice for the price of a car you can get yourself some of those um but anyway uh yeah I'm gonna I'm gonna talk about I guess uh yeah in my spare time I've just been you know finishing off that guilty gear and I think I have a a a fucking version one so you know I can at least put that aside for now um what I did was uh on this week I played waku waku seven uh you might remember that as the bright and colorful uh game uh that was the fighting game that we played a long time ago
Starting point is 00:15:37 every character was a reference to anime so there was a my neighbor totoro character there was a joseph joestar there was an elf with swords slashing I'll tell you what I'll never remember waku waku seven as any of that shit because you have created a new waku waku seven memory for me which is watching the vga's and someone in chat going holy shit woolly streaming fucking waku waku seven right yep call me whatever you want but do not say that I'm not a real one
Starting point is 00:16:19 you're in there I'm a real one you're in there forever I keep it as real as possible I mean look man realistically I know this I know what it is and I and I and I said it and I'm talking to reggie about it and he's like so and I'm like yeah this is this is what this is what we do over here right anyone else by any metric would look at this and be like hey man uh people want to watch reactions to trailers they want to see you watch this stuff and even if you're not interested in what's happening on the
Starting point is 00:16:46 screen just sitting there and dumping on it for the hour or two is good enough it's it's it's enjoyment it's a good one was easy to dump exactly right and I'm just like yeah but like I kind of also die inside just sitting there like going like all right new announcements for shit I don't care about and awards I'm gonna probably complain about one punch man in the fighting game fucking finals like I'm not what do you want me to what do you want me to you know so I'm just like look I don't really enjoy a ton of these things
Starting point is 00:17:17 if almost ever you know but they're there yes there's a free massive level of just like people are gonna tune in and watch and spike and and people are also gonna browse for any high watch channels and just watch along with those people so it is what it is but more importantly I had wacky wacky seven lore to get to and I had galaxy fight on deck and I wanted to talk about the connection between these two games because one they're fantastic fighting games that were easily forgotten for the neo-geo and and uh two like it turns out
Starting point is 00:17:52 thanks to uh gel for preparing some some lore dumps for us in that in that little uh get into fighting games we did but turns out there's a connection between these two games and it extends far outside those games into things like uh the playstation one plat uh shooter trag if you remember that t-r-a-g was a weird oh my god anime thing that existed I never thought I would hear anyone say the word trag trag ties in and uh gel basically prepared like a like a 10 minute video explaining the
Starting point is 00:18:31 lore of this whole thing and if you want to fucking go on a dive I encourage you to watch the get into fighting games galaxy fight and getting to fighting games wacky wacky seven episodes that are about to come out uh to just it's just a whole it's a whole about a game that you didn't know anything about and you're finding out how deep it goes when the surface was already like two-thirds of the way down the iceberg you know um so uh but beyond that lore shit they're really
Starting point is 00:19:01 nicely animated beautiful uh uh uh games and galaxy fight you might recall for having some really interesting like space anime space opera designs lots of um no nothing nothing all right it's gone okay well it had some really and it was it was really interesting because it had like some cool space designs I want to say like less so cowboy bebop and more so um outlaw star kind of vibes to it but more importantly and notably is the fact that it's one of the only games I can think of where
Starting point is 00:19:34 there's no corners to the screen you infinitely scroll left or right you run at like from super far away and when you hit people they go flying multiple screens away so there's a sense of um horizontal play that gets used a lot and uh you know like okay it ends up feeling like really interesting to like juggle someone and send them flying a whole screen away and then you're sprinting after them and as they're rolling on the ground like your next setup is coming it feels very cool you know I'm watching a long play right
Starting point is 00:20:11 now and I saw a training bag with a headband on it I'm like oh yeah yeah yeah so that that's uh that's a bonus koon he's a bonus character uh he's I saw this one he's Ryu and uh well rather the Ryu of that universe is such a badass that went on to teach all the badasses how to fight and his training bag was so filled with uh the fighting spirit from being near him for so long from being on his shoulder and traveling that it eventually developed its own fighting spirit and that's bonus koon
Starting point is 00:20:41 who appears in both games okay all right so that's happening this week it was a really fun time believe me it's a really it's a it's a good ass game um and yeah I will I will always be out there uh doing some stupid shit during the fucking game awards or doing some other watch a long type thing and sometimes I'll do the watch let's be real but these days it seems a lot less sensical when you're gonna have to do what with the video afterwards fucking wipe it oh so we did on page's channel
Starting point is 00:21:17 and like at the after the end of it I'm like do you want to keep this you should have fucked no we deleted it right away yeah it doesn't make any where's it gonna go youtube where it'll get copyright stricken or fucking whatever exactly you can't put it in either direction um so yeah fucking whatever you know I'll just play this Sunsoft fighter it's a good time so um that's what we did uh and then I also oh really quickly you play took Reggie to play Virgil on the
Starting point is 00:21:46 on the pc oh um well I didn't but um I was gonna say I we booted up buriki one for what that's worth uh buriki one is the old Neo Geo Hyper Neo Geo 64 uh UFC style MMA game they made it's where Guy Tendo it's got that guy from KOF 11 that you really like in it and silver is in it as well exactly and you get to see fucking silver yeah yeah yeah most of it's honestly so it's all of those things but it's also SNK's homage if not like send up to grappler backie because uh the main character and that and and that guy
Starting point is 00:22:31 silver are very very much right out of grappler backie same vibes it's also got Rio uh in it as older Mr Karate too in the future and um it's the fighting game where you use the buttons to move and the stick to fight so you attack with the with the gestures and movements on the stick and then there's a forward step button and a back step button very weird that's stupid yes but the idea can work because you remember fight night three I yeah sure I remember fight night is proof that that system can work it just needs to be refined
Starting point is 00:23:13 right fight night like the last good sports game that I ever played I mean that was a long ass time ago right yeah but before you it's it's a weird system but there's something to it if and fight night gets that in there where you like the motion of an uppercut translates into an uppercut and you go oh yeah yeah no I see it it's a little bit of that we referenced it not long ago right in uh in Sons of Liberty with the stick for slashing you know um there's something to that it can work you know so um yeah that was
Starting point is 00:23:49 that was interesting unfortunately like it just it doesn't fucking run properly because no one gives a fuck to get the Hyperneo Geo 64 running because it's one of the worst pieces of shit systems uh uh arcade systems ever made it's an arcade board that literally consists of uh I think there's a sick total of six games that were ever made for it it was alive for two years and each uh and those six games if you're gonna play the fighting games you have to buy the fighting board which only supports three games or if you want to play the racing game you have to buy the racing board which
Starting point is 00:24:24 supports the one racing game that's or the other board for the shooters which is two games and it's just the most trashed ever dude it's awful like like anyway um like we got to cps three first only because people want to emulate third strike but like the that was the board that would kill itself suicide apart right not if you took it apart if you left it alone and healthy over time it was it was built to commit suicide and then they would have to basically re-up it for you
Starting point is 00:24:57 but once they stopped doing that then everyone's board's suicided so then someone had to come up with a hardware fix in the form of phoenix in your your cps threes super and this was just incredible and it was because cps two got pirated to shit and they didn't want to have any more rainbow editions coming out so uh you know this was supposed to be and cps two was such a successful board there's tons and tons of games for it they were expecting cps three to go in that direction as well but whatever obviously due to a million things and reasons it didn't
Starting point is 00:25:26 hyperneo geo 64 is even worse than that but hey it had that one 3d samurai showdown game uh with old talmer no not no old talmeru was warriors rage never mind it had cheeky in it there you go and the guy i've got the stupidest shit post in my head and it's danny devito standing in front of a bridge going my friend cps three is gonna commit suicide suicide is badass and then just somebody throws a cps three board off a bridge Dennis i think it is like i fucking like i went through the trouble of getting a cps three board only to have a bunch of asshole movers
Starting point is 00:26:06 break it for me without the board even killing itself it compelled them to kill it it was unhappy to be alive sucked anyway that game is fucking weird but it's interesting to look at that shit and it's also interesting to see again some of the ideas at the time like there's a tai chi character that each pose each direction on the stick is a pose and you have to move into a couple of them to do to get a move out so if you go from like crane
Starting point is 00:26:36 into like whatever you know into like different poses different tai chi stances then you get like a hit out um it's it's it's just a very unique experience so yeah that's that's that's out there too so we we looked at some weird shit while the rest of the world was getting hot for sefi bishi um what are you talking about but that's uh that's coming up uh on woolly versus and of course yakuza continues uh shits rad not much else to say um oh yes that is rad yes loving it uh got introduced to
Starting point is 00:27:12 all the trainers of the styles now uh or no or the three introduced to exactly half the trainers excuse me the three trainers of the styles then and uh i'm i'm thoroughly thoroughly enjoying the the quality of these side missions uh a good ass time was had with those fucking rockabilly dudes so strong very strong how do i be how do i be a badass i don't know man yeah that shit's great uh so that's that and sent those continues but that's that's me
Starting point is 00:27:48 so i've i like to watch videos while i eat that's the thing that i like to do because i i think eating is boring so i i like to watch a tv video i do too going down that sucks because you associate food with eat watching things and then when you want to watch something but you're not hungry you still feel like you should be munching on something it's bad it's weird i don't think i don't know if i have that oh that's a real thing it sucks that that'd be terrible so i've been going through the playlist on youtube called videos by tim rogers
Starting point is 00:28:20 um uh just uh finding out all sorts of crazy shit it's good like what the deal with the number 47 is um and why he doesn't swear and where the where the phrase uh i was born stupid came from um good good good all of this is good but i was watching earlier today his review of delvin may cry five in which uh what what's he called delvin may cry five is like the king of trash uh rogers dmc five what's it called
Starting point is 00:28:59 it's called delvin may cry five is the holy grail of trash yeah that which he means which he means as a compliment i like the energy of that title i like it a lot uh and he describes like this is a this is a game where everyone's stupid idea got to be in the game and they are obsessed with making the exact game they wanted to say it's quite a compliment and yes delvin may cry five has come a long way since back man um in that video however he tells a great story and he tells a story of back when he used
Starting point is 00:29:34 to work at grasshopper manufacture uh making gray box levels for shadows of the damned and when he worked there he would come in early on the more on the mornings where shinji mikami was set to arrive from osaka on specific days and he would sit down and play god hand so that he could hang out with shinji mikami okay playing god hand okay this is good he remarks shinji mikami sitting there watching him play god hand muttering angrily under his breath
Starting point is 00:30:10 3.0 they gave it a 3.0 man i g n just doesn't get it take a look at this action look at this on what planet does this action equal a 3.0 oh man and just they've ruined my career wow i like i hate them i and eventually moving on to weird dad discussion of um like the quote is man the kid who tuned this punch was such a good kid like just okay most bizarre anecdotes uh i am not someone who tends to feel
Starting point is 00:31:03 like jealous super often i i it's one thing i'm i'm happy about that i'm i i just i don't but that's one of those things one of those moments where i'm like you got to be in the room playing while the guy who made the game is standing there feeling himself over his own game because it's that quick though you know dad i'm super jealous of and i would say that for i want to be in the room while any anyone of that ilk is like watching their own game just being like i'm so fucking nice god damn i'm
Starting point is 00:31:43 good you know i need that and the important thing to note here is that ign gave god hand a three in infamy which means that according to ign's review standards god hand one of the greatest action games of all time a game that's just about punching people is still worse than the nigh unplayable trash that is the ps4 and xbox one base versions of cyberpunk 2077 cyberpunk on ign has two different reviews
Starting point is 00:32:27 one for the pc and later gen skews and one for the like for cyberpunk i would call a current gen skew but last gen skew which would be base ps4 base xbox i played cyberpunk this week there you go okay nice transition uh i would like i thought it was pretty useful yes i know a good segue i would just like to insert that i think looking back on those misreviewed things like vanquish and god hand and anything else that got a like criminally low review
Starting point is 00:33:03 back when we all kind of looked at game reviews as like the the most important thing in video games um back before you had a podcast where your own opinion surfaced as a more important review to many people than those review scores yeah well i guess i mean yeah that's i'm ign now without actually like yeah sure sure um no but uh uh i i would like to to note that like i think we can look back and go like it was important for those moments to kind of happen to sort of create a uh a nice
Starting point is 00:33:42 dent in the timeline that we can look and point back at and go this shows you something where um games that go against expectation of what this genre is supposed to be or how it's supposed to whatever where you go into another place where it's like actually just wants you to have fun and be stylish not because it requires it but because it's something that is rewarding and feels good to do and uh that concept was something that had to be pointed out to all to everybody to everybody because people that have figured it out on
Starting point is 00:34:18 the road we're already there all that backlash they got all that backlash about the 3.0 they put out like an editor's note saying oh man everybody's mad at us but you have to understand everyone in the office hates this game more than any game that's coming to the office this entire year and it was just like no you're no now we can ignore all of you forever it is what have you done those moments were important for making a widespread like like like a signal boost of there are games out there that
Starting point is 00:34:51 don't that that ask you for a little a little optional thing that is the majority of the reason why you're playing the game you know um and that extends into any game that gives you like obtuseness difficulty upfront uh an easy way out that's optional and essentially like yeah and basically is like you know the the the reward is the feeling of being stylish or the reward is the feeling of like doing it really well or and good you know like anyway um cyberpunk
Starting point is 00:35:29 where to begin you play cyberpunk absolutely not um okay and so i've cemented my feeling that i will be gladly waiting for the improvement uh on the game because one i mean look i i i i have never been in any rush but i'm still excited for really the in general you know me but i'm still very excited for the design aesthetic and i need to experience as much of that as possible and i don't want to be hindered by let's say the 13 crashes i think estaban has hit
Starting point is 00:36:11 in his journey through the game so far so i'm going to talk about cyberpunk as if it were a narrative uh the story of me playing cyberpunk as it were so i applied for review code and one of the first things that sucked about the review process was they gave us an email i think 20 hours before the game came out saying hey guys we're not going to be able to process all your codes but we'll definitely get back to you within the next uh day and a half after the game comes out which is like oh great
Starting point is 00:36:55 then i did get that review code on the day of at about seven in the morning so i went okay fine let's go download it on gog so woolly you've punched in unreleased games on steam right you punch it in and either it works outright or like capcom likes to do you put a little code into the beta tab and then you you go to the reviewer tab and then it just downloads like a you know a couple extra files and then you're done right boy is using the good old games clients for this process
Starting point is 00:37:31 the worst because first it requires you to preload the entire game and then after you go to add the review code part and change over to that beta there are like four codes associated with it but once you punch through it you have to read download the entire game again that would explain it because i'm like why is everyone complaining about getting stuck on shit servers when it should have been preloaded already i thought every i thought that preload was to avoid that entirely and that people would have already had it sitting
Starting point is 00:38:09 there whoa bonus they were using uh anti-leak copy protection which has a cpu hit on your pc when you're playing the review version which means the retail version of the game does run a couple frames better than the review copy so when the review code when the when the actual live game went live um it crashed and then forced me to try and download the review copy again and then told me that i didn't have the right to play the review copy because the review
Starting point is 00:38:47 copy portion had passed so i was like maybe i'll switch to the retail version which i did and then it downloaded the review copy version again and then i had to switch to the retail version again so i downloaded cyberpunk 2077 five times on launch day you know how you could have avoided that right how's that by playing the optimal best version as supported on stadia oh that's true runs best on stadia don't forget so before my stream i'm like well i better make sure this is a
Starting point is 00:39:30 this is a graphically intense personal computer game i should fuck with the settings make sure run good on stream to which i discover you can't make that game run well so i was like that's weird and you know i do the stream test you know that to ease up some cpu power right and i do the different settings and it varies from this i could lock it at 30 and then i like well what if i didn't have the stream test on what if i just had normal settings on on ultra what if i had it on a high what if i had it on
Starting point is 00:40:09 medium what if i had it on low at 1080p oh you can't hit a consistent 60 frames a second in this game wow with an i7 8700k and the 3080 and 32 gigs of ram on an ssd it's actually impossible something in the background is chunking the frame rate down to like 50 at least whenever you like aim your gun or like characters spawn in from the footage i've seen it's not just frame rate it's literally model quality texture pop in
Starting point is 00:40:47 well i'm talking about my pc experience right okay so we'll get there so i'm like oh that's weird so that's like i i struggle through it and i'm playing the game and i'm discovering people are just walking through walls cars are clipping through everything people are t-posing at random characters are not doing their triggers correctly just all sorts of little minor but not game breaking bugs um and then i then i discover the start of what will later be called i guess
Starting point is 00:41:28 the nightmare which is the game's number one uh descriptor of how rushed it is and that is the game lives in a universe that has no object permanence it looks like a bug it acts like a bug but it's not a bug it's a feature NPCs and cars don't exist when you don't look at them okay so that they're just literally not there that video of the cops spawning into the corner when this dude causes crimes and he just does a different thing he does a 360
Starting point is 00:42:15 and they spawn in in the same corner every time he turns his back and that's how they show up and track you because they there's no ai pathing it's it would there's people are taking guesses that's a different problem oh i'm talking about an even simpler problem i had a i had a i had a fucking sequence bug spoilers started to gas like the shit out of me they started to gas like me to death oh they would because i was looking at a guy at a fucking noodle stand and i looked away and i looked back and his clothes
Starting point is 00:42:47 had changed and then i looked away and i looked back and he was now a completely different person okay okay no literally just the world itself generates as you look at it if if you if you all games do that on a highway and you look at a car that's 10 feet away yeah and then look away and then look at the car the car is a different car all things unload and reload in instantly yeah okay okay and that's not a bug that was made that way to save time and that that is we don't have time
Starting point is 00:43:25 to do this just fuck it just unload unload everything yeah you optimize performance that way if you unload everything you don't have to worry about what's not in the vision cone and on what's not in the draw distance and you're fine right in theory moving on to what you were talking about cops you can imagine crime cops will teleport out of view 180 degrees behind you about 10 feet away no matter where you are the reason why they do that is because cops don't have
Starting point is 00:44:00 anything that tells them what to do they have combat ai that says shoot criminal they can't chase you they can't drive they can't do anything in fact no one in the game can drive all drivers in the game are actually cars following predetermined paths if you put an item in front of the car the car just stops and you go wouldn't that horribly jam traffic no because the instant you don't look at them they despawn you know there was another game
Starting point is 00:44:39 that featured driverless cars that went around on predetermined loops that could be jammed up i believe it was called omicron the nomad soul if you are an area where the cop can spawn in and in a car and that would be appropriate they will spawn in and get out of the car to shoot you but if the item is there and they spawn in they can clip into each other and explode and kill everyone around them the the get everybody's making fun of the bugs because there's bugs where you
Starting point is 00:45:16 are uh almost every car or motorcycle that people are playing you will t-pose with your pants naked off through the roof of your car hell yeah while you're driving um all the time characters will clip through the floor characters will be backwards our animations won't be tied to the right object people will hold a phone but the phone will be 10 feet away you'll get a uh uh uh uh objective to go talk to a guy but the guy's not there the guy's actually standing outside clip through the floor on the
Starting point is 00:45:47 street and then you talk to him then you teleport into the bar i saw fucking car the guy still outside talking i saw a car crash where the car drove inside of the other car uh and exploded and just they and the car flipped over and 180 and uh yeah and i think i think at the end of the video like they turn over and look at cannery's who just goes well that went well or something like that will be rendered on top of your pants yep um all of these things these are all things bugs i saw in just
Starting point is 00:46:26 bugs i saw in just cause when i was testing that back in the day these are all variations on a theme which is the game isn't done they didn't they didn't fix the bugs long enough those are bad what's crazy is the the stuff that looks like a bug but it's not it's just rushed the crafting menu doesn't have any sound effects i had a friend of mine tell me he accidentally crafted like four items because there are no sound effects so he thought it was broken but it turns out they were crafting the whole time
Starting point is 00:46:58 certain uh skill trees are useless um the game keeps telling you to buy cars and shit but the game doesn't give you enough money and the amount of money you get from killing random dudes on the street is like half of is more than any that you would get from a real side quest um gershman and quiet shy two people from very different parts of the internet right both made tweets within like an hour that were like the funny t-pose like headless monster bugs have left only to be replaced with
Starting point is 00:47:38 i had to reload a two-hour old save because this mission is completely broken or i'm stuck or my gershman his ending completely broke i i also spoke with gene and his ending completely broke yeah i i didn't watch it because there are spoilers in it but some kind of horrible bug happened that caused a major mission and a side quest to overlap on top of each other and make neither completable uh when i think i asked about tweeted out that that's some footage of that or something weird like that happening
Starting point is 00:48:13 um it's a common ass occurrence that like people are running into progression blockers um and yeah i i kind of have to wonder like the promise of this game not not just in its its style and its uh aesthetic but the the the the setting was a tabletop yeah so that kind of leans into a you can do what you want in this world and live the way you want to so um obviously that's kind of what's fucking drowning uh uh uh the fucking baby right now but if they had taken the if they taken the whole game
Starting point is 00:48:59 and turned it into a polished hallway and then said we'll build off of this later would that have been preferable yeah totally if they had made this day a sex absolutely somebody just tweeted me them misspelling night city on a police checkpoint in the game um uh so there's all right there's all that and then there's then there's then there's like oversights i don't want to call it right there's like the first cutscene in the game
Starting point is 00:49:36 has v looking into a mirror because you made your character creator by the way the character creator is terrible all that talk about choosing your penis and all that crap the character creator is terrible i mean i saw like super serious squidward chad face and i saw a pretty good um rendition of those are fake some character those are those are fake those are memes oh uh the the the character creator has no sliders of any kind handsome scootward was fake oh yeah that sucks
Starting point is 00:50:15 damn it um fuck the the game's character creator sucks but then they're like well you made your character right so the very first scene of the game is your character looking into the mirror you looking into the mirror is a real mirror reflection and i believe it uses rtx to do it whether or not your card has rtx so the very first scene in the game runs so badly that the game almost crashes um and then after the mirror like loses its reflective property you become invisible to reflective surfaces
Starting point is 00:50:47 your character becomes yeah okay a vampire so that that doesn't happen again so this everything you're describing is um like ps3 360 era uh technology for like minimizing performance issues you know turning reflections off like that was it was a big deal in duke nukem when reflections uh worked in duke nukem forever i remember because uh and then whereas in a human revolution the mirror in in jensen's apartment is punched
Starting point is 00:51:29 because oh he hates looking at himself they don't have to god damn her fuck reflections yeah so my favorite version of this is a feature that they put in ten years ago we had to do this correctly but shows off a different bug wait they're implementing a performance uh uh uh lightning technology from ten years ago gee i wonder why so if you rtx the shadows fucking hell items will cast shadows using the rtx system ray tracing adiata right well you know how a first person game has a nightmare player model
Starting point is 00:52:07 where where the character's body is and where their arms are and the way that you make a character move in first person feel realistic results in a distorted nightmare person with no head uh if you look at them from outside well guess what ray tracing shows you that shadow on the ground oh they will show you a bald or headless nightmare torso homunculus with disjointed arms on the ground
Starting point is 00:52:41 okay um there was a real uh yeah uh uh joe lean there's a good joe lean that uh go go ex gadget made that i liked so like there is someone made someone managed to make a uh you know there not every uh decent looking character was a meme so far but um yeah okay all right so there's that so that so me playing it and being frustrated constantly with its poor performance and minor to moderate bugs and then stopping playing it because the game kept forcing me to redownload it that was frustrating then i went online and saw everybody else complaining
Starting point is 00:53:25 right what's my takeaway the game seems cool it seems kind of up its own ass and i don't know if the gameplay is good because i was constantly fighting it like technically right it could be good i'm not sure i'm not gonna i'm not gonna pass any judgment on the game's content because i yeah i saw some people enjoying themselves in terms of like just the world yeah right which is the whole thing and and i have i have friends that are enjoying it uh by the way if people are enjoying it don't
Starting point is 00:53:58 don't yell at them that's fucking stupid they're allowed to do whatever they want um yes but right so i i wouldn't talk about its content though it does seem kind of up its own ass and i really don't like v's voice actor i really i'm probably gonna play lady v because she is i i fucked around with that after the end of the stream her voice actor just seems to do a better performance every issue i've heard people uh bringing up with has been uh are pretty much not i'd say nine out of ten issues i've heard brought up have been
Starting point is 00:54:32 technical in nature yeah so then what started to leak out was the old console versions and holy shit have you seen this shit have you seen it is that where is that where uh old kianu versus new kianu comes from yeah the ps4 fat and the xbox one original is running at 720p 30 barely probably not really textures take minutes to load in the bugs are all worse the game is is is garbage like it's it's it's an unplayable mess yeah if the if the version you're getting in the final
Starting point is 00:55:26 in the in the primary if the primary version is suffering the ports are always going to be like a fucking shit show trip carnival here's where it gets really fun that the experience that i got doing the review process and talking to other reviewers right well first of all they only sent out pc codes no console codes of any kind two you couldn't use your own footage if you put up a review you had to use b-roll they gave to you
Starting point is 00:56:06 so there was no way for anybody to see what the game looked like on an original xbox one or ps4 fat except for the the trailer they put out where they said uh here's ps4 gameplay like two years ago that is complete like the pc version doesn't even look like that so this sounds like a completely different company from the one that made the witcher three so that's gonna be fun to talk about in a second because it's not it's just their reach exceeded their grasp so greatly that bad habits became the worst habits
Starting point is 00:56:52 if that makes any sense so okay the the old versions of the game are unplayable garbage uh the first thing that you would say is well most people actually bought the game on pc and it's a pc skew first and that how well do you expect it to run on these old ass consoles well considering cyberpunk was announced before the playstation 4 and xbox one were announced i don't i went and checked the dates the first trailer yes came out before you buy ps4 yes the list there was a a list i believe that popped up on reddit of
Starting point is 00:57:32 things that have been announced before uh in this time since cyberpunk's announcement and it's one of those an insane uh fucking lists like the one for duke nukem that we talked about back in the day well um every to everything game of thrones related in terms of the tv show uh like the almost the entire mcu you know like yeah crazy crazy levels like yeah i would i would assume that it being announced for um all of ff7 remake announcement to completion the consoles it was
Starting point is 00:58:08 announced for that weren't even it didn't even exist yet they just it was just for an xgen consoles would be the one they're talking about uh the game went gold before you could buy a ps5 or an xbox series x that gold is in big quotes so the the the takeaway personally is the pc version it needs like a year or more the old versions i but i have no idea i don't know if they're even salvageable they are such a fucking mess
Starting point is 00:58:49 yeah uh i've seen that sentiment being shared a lot a lot of people basically saying uh this will be great when it's done and it's gonna need about a year in the oven at the state it's in it's just it's not like a buggy release it's just straight up incomplete and to that i say sure i'll get around to it in a year so you know what my favorite part about that by the way is is that in the original cyber punk trailer in 2013 they offer a tentative release date do you remember what the 2013's tentative release date was woolly
Starting point is 00:59:29 i'll give you a hint was it dnf had the same one what was it it was when it's done when it's done okay nice well things change nice things certainly change yeah no honestly i was so this is something where uh you know i really really really like i would love to see the database i would love to see the bug database because then i could put the story together and it would it would literally allow me to create a narrative
Starting point is 01:00:10 going back to the start and taking it all the way through the journey to find out how those eight years are spent if i could just get access to it i mean first of all even if it were not before you continue titles only i could tell you right now this game did not start development until the the fucking blood and wine dlc came out for witcher three like they announced it could have been skeleton and they put that trailer out but like real production only happened when people came off witcher the game is not eight years old it's five it could have been skeleton crew yeah
Starting point is 01:00:45 in a lot of cases that's that's that's that's something that you get going um obviously recent examples of uh skeleton crew ramp up uh being an immense success would be hades comes to mind oh yeah uh so don't fucking no crunch don't say it doesn't work forced vacations good for hades big thumbs up i mean dude i i will i will sing super giant praises as you know with the quality of games they've been putting out from the start like and you know until unless they pull one of these so unless the unless they go you know but anyway my narrative of eighties is fucking incredible navigating
Starting point is 01:01:24 the shit show the night after i played it on stream i thought to myself i wonder how that seizure shit went down in the game now that the game is out and people are playing it so i went ahead and found it i found the brain dance sequence and i pulled up a video of it from somebody else's playthrough put it in the non-maximized um when you know youtube layout and put it on my second monitor which is you know a 1080p like 21 ish monitor that i can if you're watching this live i'm pointing to right now um and watched it and then i got the time stamps gave you a warning and sent you that video uh did you watch it
Starting point is 01:02:09 mm-hmm astonishing i felt sick watching that it feels bad so uh i said it last week but my bar was incredible too yeah and this came in way below that but still but the fact that the device and the pattern emulate actual seizure inducing technology is the weirdest part of that um am i seeing correctly here in that they did patch it out the first thing they patched was a warning and then the second thing they patched was they it is now like the actual scene now doesn't flash the same way so it is ostensibly safe
Starting point is 01:03:00 great um and then i found out my absolute favorite thing of the day which is of personal experience like personal uh uh uh what do you call it it matters to me personally and to almost no one else but in the current twitch dmca shenanigans games with licensed music are scary yes and yes yes the cd project devs understood that you said they put in a dmca music toggle saying hey we're gonna turn off copyrighted music if you uh if you turn this toggle on i go well that's great
Starting point is 01:03:44 and then later that night as i'm exporting my fucking stream to youtube the twitter comes up oh we missed a couple and then a few hours later comes oh actually we missed so many that we don't even have a list of which ones we missed so just go ahead and turn music off entirely tweet basically said warning turning the dmca safe uh turning the copyrighted music option off does not protect you yeah it actually still get fucked by a nice warm blanket of security that will not protect you from
Starting point is 01:04:23 incoming dmca bullets that is a ridiculous level and this is this is this is where i was at that night and i was like i feel like and this is this is a personification of a game right this is this is a feeling this is not the reality i feel like cyberpunk is trying to hurt me yeah like i i feel what else what else i feel like the game is attempting to give me seizures and as i am suffering a grand mal seizure attempting to get me fired from my job yes the the the game also comes with
Starting point is 01:05:04 a uh requirement that you utilize the syringe-based peripheral that's packed in the box with it you know like it's yeah yeah i i i get it i get it that cyberpunk is shit right this new video game is trying to ruin my life okay fine but sure and then some more shit happened and i guess this would be news but i mean we could we could we're we'll move around but yeah a bunch a lot of things did um you want to talk about their their their
Starting point is 01:05:48 dear gamers i was going to say so what i saw was the there's a some emails went out and apparently got leaked and um one of the more recent ones was describing the uh that everyone at the company would be getting their bonus pay even if it doesn't reach its bonus threshold uh to which of course uh you know you have to look at the the the way it's reported as like oh good news everybody like way to announce that after you've already crunched yourself
Starting point is 01:06:24 into a depression that would have been great to know before you worked you know four months of overtime also this massively unethical shit system of fucking uh uh a metacritic bonus fucking score is this still a thing we're doing all right i have a lot more to talk about that in just a bit uh so that came out and people were like oh well that's kind of good guy cd projects you know they're trying to do you know they're fixing okay well let's hold that thought
Starting point is 01:07:00 let's hold that thought next comes oh by the way i found a thread on uh the the cyberpunk reddit where the game is shipped with the wrong configuration so it's not even using all of people's pc's it's using like a third or half of some people's pc's it just explains why it runs like such goddamn shit um but dear gamers an official statement by cyberpunk and cd project first of all we'd like to apologize to you for not showing the game on base last-gen consoles before premiered and in consequence not allowing you to make
Starting point is 01:07:32 more informed addition we should have paid more attention to making it play better on the ps4 and xbox one i could tell you for a fact integrated like interacting with this review process they're not sorry they didn't like forget this was an intentional no it was obfuscation of information 100 percent intentional we're gonna fix shit and improve stuff first round of updates we're gonna have another patch in a couple days we're gonna have another patch in january we're gonna have another patch in february the gate they never forget
Starting point is 01:08:03 that that sony's own twitter and website published a trailer that accurately showed you the gameplay for life of black tiger sure they did it's incredible incredible it won't make it look like it's running next gen or high spec but it'll it won't crash they say after the february patch finally we would like everybody who buys our games to be satisfied with their purchase now listen to this very carefully we would appreciate it if you would give us a chance but if you are not pleased with
Starting point is 01:08:40 the game on your console and don't want to wait for the updates you can opt to refund your copy for copies purchased digitally please use the refund system of psn or xbox respectively for box versions first try to get a refund at the store where you bought the game should this not be possible please contact us at help mere fund at cd project red or we'll do our best to help you starting from today you can contact us for a week up until december 21st 2020 which would be this coming monday but they didn't tell this to sony
Starting point is 01:09:09 or microsoft or any of the retailers so depending on hello sony can i get my money back please no okay well i guess but they said i should post to ask you too bad and now you'd give me my money back actually idiots online going i can't believe sony's ripping me off with the refund thing one yeah sony's refund policy is is terrible so is so is microsoft's steams is a little better unless you live in australia where it's much much better but this is passing the buck this is absolutely
Starting point is 01:09:41 this is telling you do just ask for a refund knowing full well most people can't get refunds okay um oh but you can email them at a email that will die this coming monday and i like it's it's i mean passing the buck is like yeah i guess so if you're just saying like it's your problem now because to me it's mainly just a like stop leave it's just a leave me alone go put the problem over there yeah even though over there is nowhere
Starting point is 01:10:20 kind of yeah yeah it it is it is also i was informed today that gog's refund policy enables a seven-day refund for any reason except if your game doesn't work right now and we're actively patching it please wait until it's fixed before asking for your refund so another point to this and uh this is this is one that actually i can shed some light on is the discussion of waivers and compliance was brought up right yes how did this shit get through how did the seizure shit get through sony and microsoft's compliance
Starting point is 01:11:04 like literally i can't speak for this generation because i wasn't there for it but i can say that uh based on previous gents of of certification there were no guidelines against seizure inducing except for nintendo they're the only ones that had anti-seizure uh tech on their uh guidelines so sony and microsoft didn't really care per se um steam as well because steam does have some guidelines they're extremely minimal they're one page but they do exist uh yeah
Starting point is 01:11:41 fuck it they didn't they didn't care about that stuff the part of this where uh the console versions i believe in the emails were they they were stated that um yes these are like messes and they're full of tons of major issues but they were given waivers right for day one patches or for uh eventual fixes to a lot of issues so to that and i saw uh you know some like confusion at as to like like what the fuck they basically made a promise about like fixing these major issues and that's
Starting point is 01:12:22 what allowed the game to come out for the record every game does this waivers just so that you guys are aware in waivers of major compliance issues is a common thing in the industry and uh a lot of games that are uh basically in the shit for better and for worse as they get near submission you will find that they'll send you back a list of major fails and they'll have a list and they'll basically go these game can't come out if you have these things still in your game whatever and uh then it's up to the
Starting point is 01:12:56 producer to get on the phone and uh negotiate waivers for each of the issues that they can and at that point the hardware manufacturer can choose to allow or not but essentially there's tons and tons of games that have uh major issues where they say if you get it in in a day in a day one patch it'll be okay and a lot of games have that you know and like and play in fact i'd say every i'd say every triple a game has waivers that were that were applied that got patched out on day one issues that you never knew were in there
Starting point is 01:13:33 that could be catastrophic um anything that is like too dangerous is just is a no-go but if the negotiation is essentially for something that is like um catastrophic to like uh the user experience in just the game and not in a like larger console context you can you'd be surprised which you can get away with a waiver for uh providing that the day one patch absolutely has it and if you fuck that up and don't adhere to your promises on that you lose a fuck ton of standing
Starting point is 01:14:12 and ground with them means you all be able to do it the next time you will not be able to do it the next time you will have infinitely lower priority uh and you'll have no grounds to negotiate with you will not be in good standing uh i believe there are literal fines uh in some cases i'm not sure that every manufacturer uses it but but there are some did and yeah essentially it's say like we don't trust you anymore on anything like this uh moment if you promise waivers uh for day one fixes and then don't deliver on
Starting point is 01:14:49 them so like submission wise uh CD project is fucking hurting with what they promise to deliver and then didn't on those day one patches basically they say they'll do better next time they literally have to or the games won't come out if you can demonstrate that like you like in those discussions if you can demonstrate you're like oh hey uh you know like we we've already identified the issue it's already fixed in this version whatever we'll roll it out here you know and then the skews will be fine and and all
Starting point is 01:15:22 like all of this factors in it's a very like all right if you say so you know in the end like as long as it happens and it happens it's fine if you fuck that up man like they really don't want to give you uh the time of day and they will be they will be petty well and extra petty do you think that they actually fulfilled their promises to sony and microsoft for that day one patch willy that's what i'm saying like they're in they're in fucking rough standing right now no question wow we have confirmation that they didn't
Starting point is 01:15:52 so a conference call came out this morning in polish a gentleman on reddit has translated it for us and it has a shizzillion upvotes so i'm going to take it with a grain of salt but i going to assume that nobody corrected it one of the questions is how come this game got through sony and microsoft's cert this is on our side sony and microsoft was hoping we will fix the game on release it's entirely on us mm-hmm also part of this this thing is uh how's the refunds going well we told
Starting point is 01:16:30 people to refund it with sony and microsoft so we're done we're done with that uh but my favorite part of this conference call by far the most important part is describing why did you put the game out in this state and they described that there was no extraordinary pressure are the calls in english oh my bad uh there was no extraordinary pressure to release it this year like all that talk about while investors were pushing them or
Starting point is 01:17:07 the fan base was pushing them to to put it out no they could have totally delayed it so they just looked at the clock and saw what was happening in front of them and you know again those 20 days like those 20 days now in retrospect that's cert promises oh man that's they fit like it's what i said they failed cert and then they promised that they would pass cert and they failed cert again um i yeah no like the like the term that gets used in some of these cases is
Starting point is 01:17:42 like conditional release you know like they will be like all right we you can this is a this is there are conditions and uh yeah um for whatever they're doing console wise from here on out their submission process is going to be hell it's going to be hell um if if unless the the people and times could have changed you know again i've been out of the game for a minute but from from the time i when i was there i can say that like when they don't like you you will fucking know it oh yeah
Starting point is 01:18:17 they will be very pennies the worst right especially especially nintendo okay so luckily it's luckily nintendo will fucking nintendo will literally like like angry girlfriend you like silent treatment you like they nintendo will absolutely fucking give you that fucking that that fire that heat that what did i do oh you okay i'm fine oh no do you want are you are you fine you want to release a couple games later whatever
Starting point is 01:18:59 lot check will fucking scope bro oh man so hell half no fury like a nintendo scorned i hope you kept all that in your head because the my final piece of news is from a little birdie that i spoke to across the pond about how things are going inside the studio right now now you can obviously take this with a grain of salt as i'm not personally providing a source but you should probably listen to it anyway developers are unhappy with the way things have gone
Starting point is 01:19:39 you don't say it's true for one thing uh they're being harassed by people on the internet don't do that of course for what is obviously the decisions of management and management is just letting them burn burnout and associated stress on the project has been described as so much worse than witcher three that people on the team have asked management whether or not they will be providing mental health resources um i mean dead serious you guys i don't know if anyone
Starting point is 01:20:21 here can imagine the feeling of five years on a project to release to rage and jeers because the thing that gets put out is not at all what you uh hoped it would be and like you did your best you did your job but the end result is a fucking trash fire that shits awful oh and it morales came out two weeks before christmas which is the depression olympics morale is annihilated and absolutely and you're burnt out yeah and the following two developers couldn't find the bug
Starting point is 01:21:06 log but both said there's no way that didn't get bugged it must have been marked as low priority investigate further with the brain dance slash seizure elements um dub and f remember when everybody was like will not at least they're uh at least they're fixing the metacritic bonus thing right well turns out the studio was an almost open revolt to get those metacritic bonuses untied because of all the other shit management pulled and they finally got it
Starting point is 01:21:43 however it should be known that you only qualify for any of those metacritic bonuses if you put in a shit ton of overtime the people who refused to be crunched were never eligible for that bonus and still won't get it hmm so this is just this is just cherry on the on top with the inside the studio oh yeah perspective because uh it's very clear what's happening outside and it's very clear what's happening in the boardrooms now don't mean to get too political
Starting point is 01:22:22 but that's not a bonus that's wage theft under performance metric that's bullshit uh in extensively in general the team is miserable depressed burnt out furious harassed exhausted and more than anything right now can't believe the way that the company is portraying everybody as one big team as one singular entity where a lot of them were like you can't ship this it's fucked or a more common attitude in the studio yeah we can ship this it's fucked but you can't hide that it's so fucked
Starting point is 01:23:12 just tell people how fucked up it is so um where you develop your game and your immediate surroundings and like what the rest of the industry looks like in your area um is very important because uh it determines how much someone can legitimately come to a point where they say fuck this i'm out right how reasonable is it that an employee that is at that point can say that based on uh their options if they were to do that you would have to have their options are literally that's exactly where i'm going with this problem
Starting point is 01:23:57 that's a big problem cd pro if someone were at their breaking point of that country's economy if they were at that breaking point that would not be uh something they could do whereas if they lived anywhere in one of the major game tech development cities here in north america or even like england or france or you know whatever sure but uh you know if you're in if you're in montreal if you're in uh la if you're in fucking copenhagen you can be like all right fuck this
Starting point is 01:24:29 you know uh that's that but a cd project is not that kind of situation this this game does not technically likely reach the legal definition for what you would call a scam but i can with confidence say that this is absolutely a grift this is a hustle um hmm i think that you're seeing a salvage job on on a project that probably was never on track to live up to the promises it gave
Starting point is 01:25:17 can't imagine what this game looked like in april yeah like everybody needs to really think about that the game's original hardlocked release date you how bad could it have possibly been anybody on people on the people on the ground floor know we're sitting there in in march like they're just laughing at that you know whatever announcement is supposed to fucking stick to that date but the there's a i've worked on a lot of games where
Starting point is 01:25:52 uh it is the 11th hour and people are still just testing on a debug menu straight to level loader because a top to bottoms full playthrough is still incompletable there's tons of situations where you just you're like yeah like the full run from zero to finish hope it comes together next week doesn't yep we're not there yet working on it we got we got our best guys working on it they're they're doing it but as of now everyone is still loading in directly
Starting point is 01:26:28 to the areas to test them because you can't just get there through progress you know well that's bioware magic right there yeah yeah yeah um yeah so so it's it's interesting because i mean like you know um if you if you i guess it depends on what what your definition of grift is right uh i see this as being nearly identical to the um to the no man sky setup where an idea was formed and then the the technical know-how was discussed and put together
Starting point is 01:27:09 but then somewhere along the lines of translating your game design into um an actual like a functioning pipeline of development i i imagine over the course of that all those years that thing just never worked and we don't know how many times they must have scrapped and went backwards but the answer is clearly minimum twice they would have thrown everything out and started again so it feels very no man sky obviously right yeah no man sky is absolutely the the analog to this however they did one thing
Starting point is 01:27:49 which removes all but so there's a great video by internet historian called the Ingoodening of no man sky in which he breaks down uh Sean Murray in particular who is the source of a lot of the the bullshit and he basically makes a really strong case for the fact that Sean Murray is a really anxious not good at public speaking guy who was on the tonight show suddenly making his indie game and he kind of just freaked out and over promised um and i can i can believe that
Starting point is 01:28:22 cd priak told you you couldn't show people what the game really looked like until they had bought it that's a decision that that was that's that's yeah i i we are deliberately trying to get this into people's hands before they know what's gonna happen and that's where the moving gears of triple i step in and a department exists to look at the product and go what can we do to make this seem as not nightmarish as possible and they have no qualms about just lying to you or hiding whatever is unpleasant
Starting point is 01:29:04 and the you know whatever like small indie honesty you would get doesn't exist when the the fucking thing is that big also the no man sky situation much older and we have the benefit of hindsight which like the internet historian video calls it accurately i believe the in goodening of no man sky they went on yes add every feature that was ever talked about and way way more than they ever talked about
Starting point is 01:29:36 so oh i bring we're on point with what they were talking about i bring up no man sky so that i can say i sincerely do hope that this can get in goodened into the state that people are looking at no man sky next with right now where they're like yeah it got there it would be really lovely to see it get there over time but do you remember in the meantime you remember two weeks ago where a cd project uh i think was a lead or somebody
Starting point is 01:30:09 was like wow the games run really well on xbox one and ps4 it's crazy how well they run on the old consoles that was like two weeks ago off you see active deception is different so this is in the mean like in the meantime we can accept a world where you're going to make the game finished eventually and be good and hopefully at that point everyone will be like yay but don't fucking piss in my Cheerios and ask me what's wrong in the meantime just don't do that don't hide what you're selling people
Starting point is 01:30:52 don't lie about getting refunds don't start doing the fucking you know the the the legal department marketing department publisher bullshit that gets in the way of like people are already upset enough at the product they're holding you don't need to make your attitude sully the experience even harder and i think if it does eventually uh polish up and get done in about a year's time maybe even six months but let's be real with time here with time in the fact in the equation
Starting point is 01:31:29 i give give it a year i don't know no so i was under the initial impression that the game's real release date would be the next gen release on the new consoles right however with how how i'm talking to somebody and the description of just how fucking burnt to a crisp that team is i don't know how much good they could do in six months like those people i've seen i mean i've i've seen fucking like third party studios get called in to sit at desks and fix builds i've literally seen
Starting point is 01:32:23 all right fuck it well we're sending the game to ottawa they're not going to do that you know in fact they even said they weren't going to do that in that conference call they were asked well adding more people to the team make it go faster no we're at the point in the project we're adding more staff would not make it go faster well there's a difference between going faster and like actually fixing it you know if you straight up need to need to
Starting point is 01:32:57 i don't know i don't know but yeah if the level of burnout is basically one where they're just like uh you're telling people hey so you hit the finish line but it ain't the finish line and you got another 12 months of this to go uh yeah that's fucking yeah that's horrendous to imagine when people are going can we get some comped psychiatrists in here because people are depressed and maybe want to kill themselves they're so burnt out i don't know how much good ass work you can squeeze out of those people so we a common topic uh on the
Starting point is 01:33:30 podcast has been uh recently especially has been like the dumpster fire that could and uh we got into this every time we followed a fallout um fallout fucking uh update anytime we went into anthem anytime we went into any of these games that just launched in a laughably uh fucking unplayable state and then we we'd always go like okay but you know maybe maybe they can hello games it right maybe maybe 76 can eventually get to
Starting point is 01:34:09 what uh you know whatever um is really is no man's sky it's the one it's the only example yeah it's the only it's the only example isn't it yeah it's the only example of a full 180 but that's a different game it's a different game i don't count the different game um i don't count a different game you can uh snowman sky it feels like it's pretty good now it's no it it's only no man's sky okay okay was warframe garbage war warframe oscillated between complete garbage and
Starting point is 01:34:50 pretty cool at at almost once a year its entire life cycle so i don't know how to answer that question because like i don't think it's like if you're talking about a situation where you're like oh man um this game is a mess but like it's not really a mess the gate like it's a game where you enjoy it it's fun it's making tons of money it's a success it's just got like balancing issues and a couple of other dumb things and then they kind of like like for example like uh like overwatch or
Starting point is 01:35:22 something where you're like oh god all the bullshit of that and then they they add things and whatever and then it turns around i'm like dad that the people are saying master chief i'm talking about a project on fire i got got fixed and that was on fire for honor and siege had rough launches but they weren't this they weren't this that this is right there with anthem in 76 see i wouldn't like just to be honest like like i wouldn't even count street fighter five because like that was kind of media street fighter it had a fucking bare bones ass launch and the game was there
Starting point is 01:35:59 it was it was it played it was there it worked it happened i'm not talking about that i'm really talking about the the no man sky level of uh fucking kazoo uh Jurassic park music yeah yeah that's a whole genre now yeah because that's what this is cyberpunk is kazoo blade runner music if no one's done that already no one's done that already all right well there you go that was free everybody uses the dress park one because it just it just hits just hits so yeah but obviously we need to you know so this is this is this is what it is like i like
Starting point is 01:36:35 i guess no man sky really is the shining example and good on fucking shan and and hello for that it's like 20 people it's it's it's it's doable it can be done yeah and that's and that's but you need now that we have hindsight you can look at that and they go they over promised they didn't they over promised and put their foot in their mouth but it wasn't it didn't come from a place of deception it feels like it came from a place of panic or as the cyberpunk situation especially over the past week has been like ah let's just get it out let's just
Starting point is 01:37:08 tell them whatever they need you need to tell them till they buy it and then they won't be able to refund it so we all hate this word but this is actually the time for a roadmap it feels garbage to say but this is actually the time one of the few times to release the roadmap no it's this is what it's for they released it the road map which is there will be a patch and there will be a patch but roadmaps don't mean shit anthem had a roadmap no the roadmap was so bad that they had to cut half of the roadmap off and then
Starting point is 01:37:52 alter the ones in the existing roadmap and then they didn't even fulfill those see but the thing is is if you can show a roadmap of what your actual fix plan is like again no man sky we're gonna say it again then you at least are able to assess your problem and you're showing that you're capable of fixing it so that's the weird thing no man sky didn't have a roadmap they just put out updates that was like here's a hundred new features but didn't they also talk about what was coming constantly on their blog they talked about fixes and shit like that
Starting point is 01:38:27 but there were i i i i seem to recall a huge like transparency no it was like it's bad and then they didn't say anything and then the of a fucking massive update came out that fixed tons of shit and added tons of shit head down and work and they didn't say anything and then all right another huge update came out they were completely fucking silent a lot of people were super mad because they assume i stand corrected they took the money and ran right and then a couple months later like no i think it was the beyond update
Starting point is 01:39:04 um all right head down and work all right it was around the second or third of those updates that people were like oh they're doing it oh they're totally doing it oh okay they learned it's awesome that talking it up was what caught them into that that problem so the note playing no man sky or being a fan of no man sky right now is a really weird thing because every every three months uh they just
Starting point is 01:39:37 add like another 10 percent to the game and you're like oh cool there's absolutely no build up to it at all uh you know it's awesome when you and your team look at your game and go uh holy fuck we got to add this feature we got to do this and we got to fix that and you look at the situation as if it were a dumpster fire but actually it wasn't a dumpster fire you just released some hot shit and then you continued to update it with new hot shit neo neo two let's fucking go yeah let's all
Starting point is 01:40:15 give a nice golf clap for just out of nowhere appreciation i want to give the fucking neo franchise monster hunter series treat it like you gotta fucking fix some shit but you actually released a banger people in the chat are just fixing it at your updating it anyway warhammer total war two that's a good one vermin tide had a good update thing crazy these were all good these were all good things that were done
Starting point is 01:40:50 yep those games sold a shit ton of copies and they were only easier and easier to recommend over time let's give a clap to terraria do we have any lessons about do we have any lessons about about hype culture that we want to we want to get into or no yeah i have a lesson about hype culture um i became unhyped for from the game when they did the april delay and i think was on this podcast i'm like i don't know something about delay wasn't sitting right with me
Starting point is 01:41:27 because i assumed let's all clap for hollow night uh because i was assumed something was wrong and then i got confirmation that something was wrong and then as the game got closer we all expected something to be wrong but i was still hyped to see it right but i'll tell you what even from a perspective of i actually got anti-hyped the day before where i was excited to see it break where i was like oh cool we're gonna skyrim launch through the universe right it didn't even break in fun ways for me
Starting point is 01:42:05 it broke in infuriating ways constantly so even if you can get hyped for garbage the garbage will often disappoint you go on that's it that's the end of it okay tamper your expectations even once you have assumed it is trash because it can still disappoint you well uh yeah i believe the you know like the difference between hilariously bad and uh fuck you i can't play this is still quite it's the it's is as far as hilariously bad to like fucking incredible
Starting point is 01:43:02 it's a whole other metric so yeah um all right you imagine playing through that game right now and getting the ending and the ending doesn't work like you struggle through the whole thing and then the ending doesn't just doesn't work so the ps5 version manages to keep its frame rate up and manages to to run the ps5 and xbox series x versions brute force their way through a lot of the problems that the earlier consoles have okay because they're running on the low settings but they're able to actually hit them but then you then then you're done with
Starting point is 01:43:40 then you're done with the performance more or less and then you just deal with everything else max as i remember when uh seven r's uh biggest competition was cyberpunk a week later whoa damn if that happened oh i i oh man oh man that controversy over seven's plot would be nothing who cares oh oh man my god just cloud curb stomping the shit out of v oh boy
Starting point is 01:44:23 oh that would have been a wild universe yeah i thank god we're not in it that would have been brutal that yeah you don't you don't need you don't need to put out a game like cyberpunk as is right now with a fucking competitive weekend to further you know emphasize the the the problem dear god yeah seven remake would have looked like the game of the decade by comparison it it's great like the the contrast would have been stupid a hundred percent a hundred percent
Starting point is 01:45:03 uh yeah okay well um i'm i'm i'm saying 12 months i'm saying 12 months you know do we project like went from being golden era valve to modern era blizzard in one day right what were you gonna say about about their witcher era uh the witcher era version of the company this is all the same shit it's just 10 times worse okay it really isn't that literally the bio-air magic thing like witcher one came out really fucked up but
Starting point is 01:45:44 they did the enhanced edition witcher two came out fucked up but not as fucked up as witcher one and they did the enhanced edition witcher three came out really fucked up but that game's incredible so people let it slide a little bit and then they worked on it for forever and all those same practices that led to all those problems just all congealed into an untenable mess with cyberpunk yeah if they don't if they don't turn this around like
Starting point is 01:46:17 that's that's the whole company right like that's oh it's all they make they make one game literally everything five years and they well they have the distribution service which they won't reveal how many copies of cyberpunk on pc were sold on gog versus steam which leads me to believe it's like 95 five um yeah i think they successfully took uh the heat off of naughty dog
Starting point is 01:46:52 with all right top position for most ire at them at the moment crunchy well naughty dog does have one ace in their sleeve i don't know if this is news or not but oh what a congratulations to naughty dog for winning best direction for last of us too after grinding your employees to dirt good job guys that's how we want to do it in this business all right part two is
Starting point is 01:47:35 hey maybe uh we shouldn't super applaud those results if the way that they got there is super dubious and sketchy and shit says kotaku article um i totally agree with that sentiment now uh i don't remember the name but the main character of twitter then signed on and flexed his knuckles and cracked his fingers and got to tweeting and uh i believe i believe uh the the the response was uh hey um
Starting point is 01:48:25 what i what's the exact wording duke nukem guy what's the exact you're talking about your friend in mind got addicted to wow and blew millions of dollars on the development of duke nukem forever george brissard george brissard thank you thank you thank you saying you people don't uh you know i'm gonna go find the that's exact i'm like fuck it i'm get it get it right i'm gonna go find the fucking get it right get it right i'm not i started to paraphrase like no no no no no no let's get it right let's go get the let's go get the the
Starting point is 01:48:57 fucking i'm gonna tell you you talk about i've got a scroll on this i got a scroll go into we can scroll we can scroll because i i quoted him i bray showed the shit out of that dumb bitch uh here's some tweets about callie trying to get persona three from atlas good luck with that they're not gonna let you play it here we go um uh so games made under crunch conditions don't deserve best direction awards says kotaku uh or specifically to uh it's to says
Starting point is 01:49:29 ian walker who wrote the article uh because yeah editorials so uh george brissard then replies oh fuck off you have no idea what it takes to ship world beating triple a games and you take the word of disgruntled x employees versus hundreds that are happy there also comparing a 20 man indy to a 300 person studio is stupid all right in order neither do you you're famous because four years after doom came out you took 38 people which is triple doom's development team and made a doom clone
Starting point is 01:50:02 that stole one liners from evil dead then your entire footprint on your fucking rest of your career is having too much time to play in fucking world of warcraft to release one of the shittiest games ever that then ready pitchford had to fucking finish for you two i know for a fact that the devs and at least cd project are fucking miserable and i can't imagine that the people crunched into dirt at naughty dog going i love being
Starting point is 01:50:35 crunched it's good to not see my children it's my favorite like the image of fuck these disgruntled x employees they're talking mad shit everybody loves it here right guys yeah you have to say yes or yeah hired love it love my job food on the table rules all right i'm heading out to little caesars to get everybody dinner because we're going to be here all weekend who likes pineapple i like pineapple great leader that's great woolly
Starting point is 01:51:28 uh i mean look he goes on but like i think the first one gives us all the is all that matters there so congratulations to george brussard for being the main character of twitter for a day that was pretty strong even feel like a day i felt like for like an hour it wasn't it was he blocked everybody who who replied to that tweet ironically enough because i quote we did it he did not block me because that art like like the you know the the i mean for a site like kotaku to like put that
Starting point is 01:52:01 article out there and have that be fine front and center i'm like good job kudos that's a good take that's a good thing to put out and and make sure people are aware of because this is a multifaceted problem that doesn't go away unless multiple studios are pressured into making it go away because currently the industry is more or less setting itself up has not not is setting itself up has already set itself up for mandatory uh triple a development that it requires crunch by the way i don't know if you've noticed but if you check george brussard's
Starting point is 01:52:36 likes you'll see that him and the official naughty dog twitter account follow each other yeah sure of course they do uh the vgs was the worst vgs the vgs have ever vga this was a bad vgs i did see bad vga hold on now i did see last surprise performed live that was pretty cool i didn't why not because we were co-streaming it on twitch and when they go here's a musical performance you go no you don't
Starting point is 01:53:15 oh man so everybody was wondering about whether or not we you should mute trailers and shit like that right and then people talk to jeff kealy on twitter and jeff kealy was like we've cleared all of our music on twitch so there shouldn't be a problem and i'm like i don't want to hear it should be okay dude but no one in the middle of this in the middle of this there are trailers with fucking oh god what was it was a fucking space already
Starting point is 01:53:51 they were playing david bowie songs in some of the trailers no one wants to make promises because then when they don't adhere to them and blacks avathe too like if anyone makes promises and then you go like you promise this and then it doesn't go that way then they they're thoroughly responsible exactly yeah you know and the wild shit where um i love how again to to to reemphasize looking at everything because going that's going on with like twitch teams development hiring etc
Starting point is 01:54:23 you're seeing all these jobs that they're posting and none of them are for people that would help structure a flagging system to let people know about what is going on with infractions and to help them not get their channels banned uh none of that is anything they're emphasizing or mentioning working on all of their heads up to the creators has been just about hey guys sorry we know it sucks turn all your shit off just stop it all off stop using the platform essentially just stop streaming
Starting point is 01:54:54 and uh i believe uh like the timeline is such that then obs develops that that soft fix which needs investigating where it's like okay well you can now stream two different lines of audio through obs and make it so that vod's just like don't worry we got live dmca has come and in respects exactly and then suddenly the the the the the ability to uh iterate new tech shows up and twitch goes oh fuck turns out we can make new things happen and what we're gonna do is make sure that that thing that obs just did
Starting point is 01:55:33 no longer helps you anymore because we're gonna flag you live and we're working with people on getting live flagging going down so that is sweet and thanks to uh the dmca for helping us develop new ways to uh fuck over everyone involved in this process now hold on a minute you might be thinking to yourself that sounds pretty terrible they they they they they're actively finding new ways to make the life shit for people that are streaming well well can we go uh a little bit further perhaps
Starting point is 01:56:12 because let's go south yeah yeah just a little bit little bit little bit south um let's hop in a car and drive down across the border to our good friends in the us of a hey guys how you all doing down there uh what's up well uh as as some of you might have heard uh if we take a step if we take a stop down by uh good old north carolina your senator representative is one mr tom tillis and tom tillis hello hello mr tillis how are you what are you up to
Starting point is 01:56:57 uh is doing his darndest to get a must pass government funding bill uh through that will include felony charges for violations of streaming copyright sick so if you violate dmca fuck getting banned fuck getting your channel revoked fuck your your pay or your whatever your job fuck all of that you need to go to jail and once you go to jail you need to be charged as a felon and then when you are charged as a felon
Starting point is 01:57:47 you can no longer vote you are literally a second-class citizen in society in certain ways because you are up there with literal murderers rapists fucking like the worst of them and this is you uh streamer who may or may not have had the go-ahead from the content to stream the thing and then accidentally it turns out oops we told you that you wouldn't get flagged but that mode of the game didn't work so you did get flagged so now your life streamer that was walking
Starting point is 01:58:29 down their street in a local convenience store was playing the new hit single from the radio and it technically came through on your screen so now you are fucking literally ruining your life when if this kind of thing goes through and you combine it with something like what we talked about with cd project earlier putting out a game where the dmca off mode doesn't work and uh what like fucking fast forward to narcos season twitch like where this is this is a thing and you and like you go okay
Starting point is 01:59:09 now you read that you blink you read that headline again and you go like what how is this even a real topic and then it takes you about two seconds to find out that senator tom tillis uh of north carolina is massively bankrolled by mpaas and riaas and every major media lobby that wants to see anybody remotely close to an infraction murdered like i would like to say actually i think the saddest part is that he's not massively bankrolled he's
Starting point is 01:59:53 he got paid like like 25 000 or something piss ass excuse me it's pathetic excuse me i would i would hate to misrepresent the situation uh i my understanding was that uh he was in the pocket of big media because oh he they are it's just that donating as special interest groups to his his uh his bullshit oh yeah he's he is he's just it's he's easy to buy uh okay okay so he absolutely is it's just a cheap man well hold on well well uh many entertainment industry
Starting point is 02:00:38 super packs gave till his contributions early in the 2019 to 2020 cycle totaling well over a hundred thousand dollars according to the federal election commission records um executives of fox sony charter cbs made large donations in the third quarter of this year let me put it to you this way he received donations from the mpaa uh sony ascap universal music group oh the good people oh the universal music group who go ahead go ahead all right critical has probably spent more dollars opening up
Starting point is 02:01:19 fucking cards than it took for this guy to try and kill you on the internet let's let's literally destroy the children's lives for a hundred k in my in my in my reelection campaign in my in my fucking yep yep uh so to this i say people asking hey how's this work in canada well it's simple you get hit with the dmca takedown and mr tillis and and or his ilk say hey that's bad you're gonna get a felony to which point you tell him to extradite your canadian nuts directly into his
Starting point is 02:01:58 mouth well and then he hopes that he can get a taste universal music group comcast and nbc universal are on that list as well as warner music and such umg in particular uh noteworthy as little v has recently explained that they were uh being sued by a fuck ton of major artists because it turns out they literally uh you know that thing where you don't get to own the rights to your music
Starting point is 02:02:35 because you're an artist and then they show up and go we're buying everything we own you and your catalog this is the contract you sign in order to get on and in order to get a distribution and sometimes we will sign you if you are competing with an act that we actually have that we want to push and we will sign you to never use you just so that you will not take away attention from the act we're trying to push uh fucking bullshit so it turns out they literally destroyed the masters of thousands upon thousands of
Starting point is 02:03:14 hours of legendary music because there was a massive fire that burnt down warehouses where the masters were being stored this happened 10 years ago and they never told anyone that it happened and so artists that went to go get their masters were essentially given the run around and dodged and infinitely put into a fucking like yeah we'll see what we can do but they literally destroyed music and were continuing to charge people and and act as if they had access to it and did not tell anyone that this
Starting point is 02:03:52 happened fucking insane stupid super evil umg yeah the music industry has always been the worst it's always been the worst out of all of them there's there's no comparison like they're like fucking blood diamond level corrupt evil um yeah so what's there to say about uh the the the individual who proudly puts his name and face all over uh a must pass bill where something that's already bullshit something that our constant conversation
Starting point is 02:04:33 is about how ill-prepared platforms are for things like dmca and how there is not enough uh like transparency and there aren't enough tools to let people who stream and make content know about what's happening with these with these laws and rules and essentially you're really this old ass man doesn't know what a dmca or a twitch is well no he's being told by the people who are paying him to put this in the in the in the stack of papers and push it forward and that's what he's doing but the end result
Starting point is 02:05:10 is uh yeah you are committing a crime that is usually reserved for violence that's right um yeah so i like that's that type of story that just like it's so alarming and apparently it's not the first time but it's so alarming tried this before that like especially in light of what's going on now uh that you kind of hope to see um
Starting point is 02:05:59 like you you hope that there is infinitely negative attention from the internet that that leads to this person uh basically being removed from their seat when the time comes and relegated to like uh nothing in politics ever again by being associated with this kind of bill you would hope i wouldn't i would not waste my time hoping about things happening in the politics of countries that i do not live
Starting point is 02:06:41 that seems like a really really futile effort on my part i hear you but when america farts we smell it it's true make no mistake that if people doing what we do right now could be considered felons for random stupid shit that gets flagged that again you don't even know what's going on or why um or worse yet when it's falsely flagged by someone who doesn't own the rights uh as many uh are want to do um you better
Starting point is 02:07:19 believe that it would affect things in such a way that the platforms were on uh are going to then change things to make it uh still be shit for us even if we're not there even if you might not be considered a felon in canada uh the the aftereffects are going to be still major to you woolly you're completely right however i'm 34 years old and i've watched over my whole life as people yell down yo stop farting it smells
Starting point is 02:07:54 and they go maybe another bowl of chili maybe i can get one more chili in there so that old man on the block who was seeing what was going on that was like oh don't do that that's five to ten right remember that old man that that tells you because he's been around he's seen everything and he knows the exact amount of time you're gonna spend in jail for what you do yeah so it turns out he was talking about playing a trailer on stream and watching it
Starting point is 02:08:24 uh it's true yeah it's true did they use uh breathy vocals that that belonged to a real band and and yeah it happened that we were watching the vga's and anytime we heard a person's voice in a song we just muted the fucking thing right off the bat great so on a less serious note oh my god what a nonsense shit show the vga's were in terms of their award structure let me ask you a question about awards woolly there's always some kind of award
Starting point is 02:08:57 police sirens police sirens sorry go on that's like best director or best direction or you know some nebulous quality that really feels like the consolation prize for game of the year but it's not game of the year it's but it's but it's like but come on right it's it's it's the other game of the year right this did you feel this way about these types of of words what what specifically do you mean so vga's has something called best direction which is not the game of the
Starting point is 02:09:32 year but it is the one that comes out right before game of the year and it has no criteria at all like okay i okay i don't know what best direction means so is this like when the oscars was saying oh let's add uh people's choice to yeah the categories or whatever yeah okay and and i always interpreted them as this is the this is the the game of the year that didn't win game of the year right it's really totally pointless when you make the game of the year and best direction
Starting point is 02:10:10 the same fucking game and your whole god damn think and burn down if you have 13 sentinels in the narrative category and it loses to last of us too a game that has a bad story was 13 sentinels nominated it was the final nominee in that category and i can only imagine that the only reason even got nominated is there was at least two people in that group of 40 reviewers that would not stop screaming on the conference call until it at least got nominated
Starting point is 02:10:48 and you and you guys want me to sit and fucking watch this shit huh i'm supposed to sit there and fucking oh my god i yeah i think people brought up a list like doom eternal uh ff7 remake hey and all these other games won like zero awards at all and like hades won what the hades won best action game only i think and then fucking last of us swept every other god damn winner
Starting point is 02:11:24 like i have someone best music which it totally deserved as someone who uh is like dedicating a major portion of my content to dispelling the the the myth of the hard core and embracing casual fighting games and people and cap players and bridging that gap uh nothing makes me fucking feel more anti-casual than a list of nominees from the fucking vgas oh somebody like that that last of us two won every award it had been nominated yeah sure
Starting point is 02:12:11 sure yeah uh single one when you see that type of shit in there and you see again one punch man and all of that it's a jump force and every one of these like holy fuck you don't talk to anybody that actually is in there none of this is coming from people that are in there with these games it's the most fucking and again i hate it but it's casual shit dude it's casual as fuck and i want i don't want to sit there
Starting point is 02:12:51 and fucking like let's subject myself to it i can't i'm not interested fuck off all of these genres all of these things like really i thought these people were supposed to be experts reading the thing doing the video games oh god and you know and i'm trying to find it but i believe casey edwards tweeted out something about how like a an award for like music and for for score was done like off
Starting point is 02:13:28 off-camera apparently yeah it was it was done during the the non-main show segment that was relegated to like a kind of commercial break yeah that fucking sucks man you know it's it's it's that it's that same oscar treatment words like and during the commercial break here's two seconds of you know the fucking vfx team being like yeah we got the yeah you don't matter that's nice you know by the way you're all fired i don't think it was ff7 in the fucking game medley
Starting point is 02:13:57 this time i can't even remember because i couldn't hear it uh because like i remember last year for near automata won best music and was not in the video game medley that they all i know is finally put it in this year this is good all i know is it went from hades into animal crossing so well sephiroth got announced for smash he did you know what i don't have that much to say except that's a really good pick i don't think i was
Starting point is 02:14:35 calling it out i don't remember anybody called that i don't remember anyone calling it out um they put ten in there so there are secondary representatives you know so that's all i have to say and it's literally the same thing i said about ken if you got a third party to give you rights to characters one rep per game please okay max called it out but that doesn't count because max is fucking max is ff7 man
Starting point is 02:15:07 sephiroth into the mirror when he wakes up in the morning he fucking brushes his teeth saying sephiroth like that you know that's like that's like uh that's like kettie calling calling first for sub zero like it's not all right that's not that's not it come on you know that's we're not we're not talking about that but yeah i i really i really just like uh that like square nix has a shit zillion characters you could have picked anybody but you picked another ff7 character i would
Starting point is 02:15:40 have i would have appreciated like i don't even like saura anymore and i would have preferred saura because you would be from a different game i'm mr likes the original picks and the cool stuff and i'm the guy that would be saying yeah neku would be great but no no weirdest thing about seph getting in i'm not upset about sephiroth getting in i'm now actually re upset over ken getting in because ken should be daunte
Starting point is 02:16:20 yeah ken should be daunte because ken is daunte pretty close yep and baeo's right there we could have had it the moment was right there um sephiroth was the right choice i i i think it's a fucking excellent choice it's a good pick and the way then the trailer is obviously super sick and the reveal is great and you know it's like who can be deserving of that level of fucking entire cast versus you energy oh yeah okay sure totally i i will i will say one positive thing about sephiroth being in smash what aside from the fact that he looks great
Starting point is 02:16:56 um this is actually the latest step in a very long running meta narrative that starts with ff7 goes to kingdom hearts one and kingdom hearts two and maybe some other kingdom hearts games the da city of games the remake etc which is literally even when cloud goes to different video games sephiroth will still follow him and be a creepy fuck the the clip of them exiting kingdom hearts and then saura looks at them and goes uh they went somewhere else
Starting point is 02:17:42 to have to continue their battle or whatever yeah like he's like guys it directly one to one links and it's like yeah if he keeps popping up out of his fucking head then sure that'll be a persistent problem um everyone panics and cloud just rolls his eyes again it's great uh being said i will also give a big clap to nintendo their recent actions with the smash community good promotion for sephiroth giving smash despair very funny mm-hmm you guys can quit it now
Starting point is 02:18:21 uh yeah they picked the final boss of video games and that's good so that's a smart that's a smart choice um what you need to wait for it to hold on to that can anger and wait for the reveal of uh kadash has uh motorcycle his way in and uh and then you can then you can start complaining again i will i will say that like the the internalized giggling that i felt when i saw that the most ancient and stupidest meme which is sephiroth giving you despair roared back to life
Starting point is 02:19:09 instantly it's the worst joke it's the worst joke and i love it i love it you just photoshop a fucking pair into the man's hand personally i i there's something that happens that every single time a smash character gets announced i forget about the Kirby part until someone immediately renders it oh man and it's a joy to behold every time i'm like oh yeah Kirby the Kirby now requires a full bottle of shampoo to wash his hair it's gonna be amazing i hope he has at least one leather strap
Starting point is 02:19:52 they might not go that far but it would be really cool to be the hair if he had one leather strap um and yeah uh in other words though brilliant distraction from the other dumpster fires going on right now you know because that's that's kind of what we were saying if anything right where it's that like there's this stuff happening at the hardcore community level for smash brothers and for for splatoon and in general all over online uh and all over twitter but at large there is a just the rest of the world that doesn't
Starting point is 02:20:31 know or care about any of that stuff and they're gonna hear about seph and smash ultimate and smash ultimate continues to be a thing so like you know there it's it's very easy to get too close to the story and do you think do you think think it's bigger than it is in remake two that they'll finally kiss i mean after all this time like because seph Ross really wanting them to kiss yeah like a lot it'd be pretty sweet if like
Starting point is 02:21:11 he kind of went for it and then like and then clouds erection was so large it pushed him and then he pushes him off and then he pushes him off like no but he lets it he lets it happen for a moment and then and then shares like a a a fucking dead-eyed emotion with some race with tifa no fuck that that's too that's leaning that that's show that's too hard that leans in too hard what you really need is in the in the middle of monologuing the camera just needs to slowly zoom in on seph ross lips and then he'll say his line and then he'll lick his lips
Starting point is 02:21:48 and then it'll cut back to cloud just going oh he'll just have a shocked moment and cloud will sweat he will sweat he will sweat and people will be like oh man he's really freaking out and yeah and i'll be like yeah his dick is and then then kreefa kreefa what the nice i don't know i don't know and then you want to you want to talk about and just then the hard car hard cut hard cut hard cut to jesse you want to talk about you want to talk about fucking final fantasy shit and the gay and people not seeing it
Starting point is 02:22:35 the fucking 14 patch just came out 5.4 in which the culmination of that storyline is a recreation of the final fantasy 8 ending between two of the female characters who the entire storyline has been about them losing their memories of each other and how much they care about each other and how they go for coffee and biscuits and how they make each other jewelry and then they come out to a gigantic exploding nature scene with a gigantic rainbow crystal behind them
Starting point is 02:23:08 and people are going they're just friends sounds good they're just pals sounds good just gals being pals yeah and you're like i i literally cannot believe the patch art is them holding hands are you people for real yeah it reminds me to similar things uh uh in well just because it's it's it's what i've been fucking working on there's uh uh with guilty gear there's there's folks out there that seem to be uh either unaware or are uh uncomfortable with the idea that uh venom is madly obsessively super duper
Starting point is 02:24:02 all about getting zato all up inside of him and you played venom for 10 minutes you would know that and zato is kind of like just hang around we'll see you know and milia's like uh and he's like we'll see you know and then is literally a guy obsessed with his best friend wears a shirt that is just arms and has magic powers focused around manipulating sticks and balls get it together people get it together pay attention and similar to what you just said there is literally an ending of them dying together hands reaching out to be held
Starting point is 02:24:59 hands dead on the ground reaching out to hold each other you know but hey yeah so anyway just some good friends just some good friends good just people being pals that was your grandma's roommate yeah live together for 55 years 55 years that's crazy i don't know how yeah yep is that funnier when they're actually when they're lying or they actually are like don't know i would say don't know because there's a way funnier it's way funnier because they're like there's a defense mechanism that's kicking in uh you know depending on how wholesome the family is trying to be quote unquote uh where you know it just doesn't it just won't it won't click in it
Starting point is 02:25:54 won't compute uh but yeah so you know that's why venom hates milia yes absolutely can't she's in the way of his favorite shadow based peen it's uh not the first time uh a black dude has lusted after takahiro koyasu nor will it be the last i kind of flew over my head i don't i don't get what that one is um um deos got a black priest that wants his dick soup oh okay right i didn't i forgot zado was was voiced by deo okay there you go puji puji needs the yeah vampires got it you know what the difference is though what is the difference very important difference what's that puji got it yeah puji did get it he got it good i remember seeing that panel part six of like them just hanging out with
Starting point is 02:26:54 no shirts reading books puji fucking got in yeah uh just what you guys doing we're just reading he was worthy of his grace yeah uh yeah so what else was going on at the game awards well some trailers dropped yes one trailer in particular blew my fucking mind and made me i've never been so happy to not have gotten enough into a game that was the best game and that's disco elysium i've never been happier to have dropped off something even though i knew it was incredible and being like i'll get to it when i have time then fucking disco elysium you can talk to reggie about the discussion we had because i've just i've i've mentioned it on stream already but the the couple hours i played of that were so fucking incredible and i pretty
Starting point is 02:27:58 much went i'm still trying to figure out if i can just get some fucking lozenges and some water and fucking lp this game because uh me and page went through a near identical conversation where i'm like this is the best game it's so good my throat hurts it's so good yes and i did a test run of what it would be like and it was immensely unpleasant and like 45 minutes in it was fucking it was it was bad um and we also tend to be stupid and make dumb voices for every character and in the things we do yeah i stopped doing that right away so let's go elysium on stream but you know big part of uh of of of some of the the woolly versus lp's is the the casting that we do uh mario was a mario rpg was a great time uh paper mario played undertale i decided to
Starting point is 02:29:05 fucking uh put a obnoxious hick accent on meta meta ton which i regretted immediately because man that character has a shitload of dialogue and undertale yeah uh i i decided to to put uh fucking uh macho man voice oh his alphas i forget uh i just i decided to put fucking macho man voice on uh the macho man equivalent in that game who happens to be the main focus of an arc of the combat tournament arc and you just like all right so i'm just this entire session is going to be me just going horse got it whoo yeah the whole time um anyway so yeah disco elysium special edition is coming out and it's getting full voice acting and like the lightness in my body i felt when i saw that was i don't it was um such a fucking good feeling to be like two parts to
Starting point is 02:30:07 they figured this out they got it they announced full voice acting for every character and everybody went and had the exact same question which is do you mean like every person on the street or do you mean every speaking role in the game and they immediately clarified that for the purposes of this that the stats count as characters and my fucking stomach just opened up and happiness oh my throughout my whole body and i'm thinking about electrochemistry what convincing you to to lick that goddamn drop of whiskey off the counter every stat talking to you is a character different characters that that is how okay okay so something just that is a stupid insane amount of recording work that that they did that's like double war of the voice acting right yes if anyone
Starting point is 02:31:24 if anyone is unfamiliar like it is there's just the main line voice acting there's side characters there's all the branches of every conversation there's humans there's the narrator overall and then there's every stat that you have on your character that conflicts with the others that can all go positive or negative on each interaction where it's available it is i can't begin to imagine how expensive that must have been but this is a free update this is a free update down for people i would like to quickly read off the stats that will talk to you in the new version of disco elizum logic encyclopedia rhetoric drama conceptualization visual calculus volition inland empire which is the david lynch stat empathy authority esprit de cal which is the name of a movie suggestion
Starting point is 02:32:22 endurance pain threshold physical instrument electrochemistry it's the one that tells you to take drugs shivers half-life hand-eye coordination perception reaction speed several fast interfacing and composure the encyclopedia voice actor better get paid a lot because holy shit that one is out of control yeah this is the this is unbelievable and then to think that again this is all a free update is that's wild that they would give that away because i can't wait for i would pay premium to fucking buy a voice acting pack i want somebody doing their best david lynch impression trying to explain to me why the mailbox is talking to me which i guess the mailbox will be voiced now i want endurance to tell me about how cool fascism is i want uh fucking visual
Starting point is 02:33:17 calculus to explain to me in a nerd voice where my fucking shoe is i want electrochemistry to scream at me that i can totally take those drugs without kim looking you know like i mean inland empire might not be a david lynch voice it might be the voice of the main character um yeah that girl from the movie i want authority to scream at me to amp up my anger after someone tells me to fuck my own hat more more anger tell her that you'd fuck it so yeah uh that just in like fucking meets back on the menu boys like i saw that and just went great sorted happening instant happening happening so happening hard happening it's infinity classic like classic forever the only thing holding me back from fucking like showing this off to everybody has just been the
Starting point is 02:34:22 fact that it's a novel you know and that is salt salt super solved and then you think dude that means like kuno has five times as many lines i fucking love kuno kuno's the shit yeah that's that's a that's a i didn't see this announcement coming that is one of the the best things to hear not to mention some other shit too i mean we're throwing it all up there because that's the most impressive and fucking great part of it but there's new political vision quests more characters new areas and new new content in general so yeah that's march 2021 incredible who gives a shit about cyberpunk anymore when this thing is coming did you punch kuno uh i don't think i got is that is that further in it's it's when you go examine the body kuno's there you didn't even
Starting point is 02:35:25 meet kuno oh wait the kid yeah kid yeah redhead little shit yeah uh i did i uh he's such a shit i don't remember if i did or not it was a while ago i game over it by shooting the girl on the fucking fence yeah it was i don't i don't remember but i remember that fucking and that scene was very annoying that that child so deserved to get everything and more i played through more of that game than uh than you or i think page did i got a little farther i got to like the second day and i got to like you know they they tell you to go talk to the union rep and then they tell you talk to the company lady mm-hmm you talk to the company lady and i swear to i swear to god there is like like 10 000 words there and the and she is just
Starting point is 02:36:23 she is she is the absolute quintessential company lady to oh yeah but it's it's like she's very long-winded and and you're like thinking about how long it would have taken me to say that shit out loud and it was like uh 90 minutes yeah yeah yeah yeah and then and just the fact that you can like you can follow the conversation through to the helpful details that you need to get further in the story or you can just derail it into how can i maybe squeeze her for some bucks because i'm super fucking broke dude him screaming at you to stop begging people for money is going to be voice acted you can scrape it and you know she's probably got some you know oh man yeah so i am very excited to look at i'm looking at how long to beat right now
Starting point is 02:37:29 how long to beat says main story 20 main plus extras 29 completionist 40 and a half i am excited to see these results become ruinous with the new update and become wildly out of whack they should probably make a new version of this page should be a new should probably split them should it should be yeah you can make a new skew there totally because i i imagine that now that everything will be voice acted because people generally read much faster than they speak that this will be doubled in length maybe more i'm also wondering how much dialogue control over the fine things will be handled because you'll have because uh there's lines that like the main conversation is happening here between
Starting point is 02:38:22 you and the person you're talking to and then your fucking inland empire is going off over here you know and and there's like sub threads to pressing button prompts to go to the next thing so yeah i don't know i'm basing this off of anything but i can only imagine there's only a single character in the game that is not voice acted and it's you well as long as your narration is there it's you're fine yeah your narration is there your limbic system is there your reptile brain is there uh but i cannot imagine they would actually voice act the cop hobo cop art cop
Starting point is 02:39:08 did you get art cop i didn't get art cop art cop is the funniest thing in the entire game game art cop gives you a minus two to your uh k and i coordination because your hands are shaking with how shit it all is that's great no i hope that hobo cop can get a shotgun that'd be pretty sick try and get a regular gun first yeah i know for some reason i was just in my head i just like at least for a couple days this week the line was stuck in my head i'm taking a car to hell and tonight you're right in shotgun yeah so uh that's fucking incredible disco elysium game of the year disco elysium the final cut 2021 uh congratulations to disco elysium for winning game of the year 2021 from every publication wicked sick there was a trailer
Starting point is 02:40:17 for um something small and interesting uh called season and uh this was just looks like an rt game might be a walking simulator hard to say but uh the direction looks looks cool and i'm curious to see what's going on with it um you know may or may not be up your alley it's might just be up mine but uh premise oh yeah that look that look cool premise seems to be that uh first generation of a group of people have like thousand year lifespans second generation uh has i think 100 years 100 and then the third generation has a season uh so it's a yeah looks looks art and it looks pretty i'd like to see what what it's going to be uh we got that i mean i suppose it happened like we can talk about that fucking the new cage thing there's a new k there's a new chronic dream going
Starting point is 02:41:29 down i don't care okay chronic dreams doing some care later we can care later that's fine um uh yakuza is now on everything that's cool you want to play yaku you want to play yakuza one to seven on the pc xbox or uh uh playstation sorry zero to seven if chronic dream is just publishing then go forth with with all the blessings in the world to that game by all means uh back for blood got shown off again oh there is a new survival horror game set 100 years in the future of the pub g universe that's right sir it's called the callisto whatever yeah the callisto stuff thing the callisto effect yeah um um now i may have gotten a heads up about this thing coming beforehand
Starting point is 02:42:44 in terms of just what and just the vague ideas of of something being in the pub g universe and that was an eyebrow razor but it was like all right we'll see what it is what it is when it when they drop it and the fact that they went with like it's just okay so i sorry it's called the callisto protocol protocol excuse me protocol uh hey titan fall into apex legends i suppose because titan fall has things well this is just a cinematic trailer you know we don't know what callisto protocol trailer was pretty fucking funny because it comes up with a thing with striking distance studios and you're like i don't know who that is right and then the first thing you see is a prisoner um hear monster noises i can answer that question and has a health meter on
Starting point is 02:43:43 the back of his neck and everybody goes oh this is a dead space game yes uh striking distance is a studio made by a veteran call of duty and dead space uh folks and then a monster attacks our gentlemen and you're like oh that looks like a dead space i wonder if they're doing a dead space and then it gets to the end and it's oh it's not a dead space huh that's weird and then glenn showfield showfield yeah comes on the screen and i go oh this is straight up a dead space that's a dead space so dead space a hundred years later in pub g world is i mean it's it's just hilarious that that thread exists to pull on some businessman thought that would be super you know it's a way of saying it's where like yeah it's we got a franchise here
Starting point is 02:44:38 the pub g universe this is a thing we can do stuff with right there will be a frying pan in the game i mean there is that character with the tie and this and the mask on the cover is that player unknown character no player unknown is a human person that exists in the real world okay well then there's that guy on the cover with the tie in the mask also also pub g is literally just armor and unity assets like store bought unity assets like slapped together and the game has no story well they're going to make one they're going to imply the existence of these games for a reason and the world that requires it will be fleshed out there they this is uh anyway okay well we'll see that's fine you that space was good right that space was incredible yeah right up until ea ruined it
Starting point is 02:45:40 okay so yeah might just be a cool thing that that is tied to a strange way to very excited for this game because the dead space games that ea didn't ruin were incredible and remain classics okay so there you go uh there was also a uh i mean you know i wasn't thinking it i don't think many people were but yeah let's bring back perfect dark i guess sure i think the fact that we say it and people still think of the original and i think of perfect dark zero ah well you you you're special aren't you yeah sure i am yeah okay oh oh yeah wall guy right there he's on the wall the farsight was cool farsight was cool the super dragon was cool the laptop gun uh so that's that's a thing i swear to god if they if they if they show up a trailer for that game
Starting point is 02:46:55 and they're like this is our gun and it shoots and then they switch to a different gun without using a weird alternate fire who's burned that fucking just throw it out right without showing the secondary yeah oh my god just fucking give up right now yeah totally totally totally retro is looking to hire a boss slash ai designer for metroid prime four so uh whatever that means that's that's going down but hey the game is being made metroid prime four is even farther away than you thought but it's being made it is there i have a sneaking suspicion that all those nintendo games that keep getting delayed are going to be like launch titles for the switch pro i mean look suspicion my time on this planet so far has been large stretches of time and then
Starting point is 02:47:49 randomly a metroid title gets sprinkled in front of me that's correct if that continues to be the case that's fine and you're like man fucking yeah federation force totes for sure no doubt uh yeah just yeah uh and then uh i don't even get it but uh all right it just you know seems like a bad idea but apparently snk is creating a brand new console in 2021 a system to bridge the needs between passionate fans and console gaming enthusiasts i have no idea if this has anything to do with their recent acquisitions but yeah it's seems like a game console that uh here we go involved a user agreement and ask you for your your sexual preference and if you put anything other than heterosexual it
Starting point is 02:49:06 explodes and kills you well that's important so be aware of that it might also um trigger if the delicate feminine touch is detected on the controller if you press the buttons too softly it also has a part where it says uh did your mom drive to the store to buy this for you and if you answer yes it asks your mom to come into the room so that she can fill out her oh well well no there's every console nowadays has parental settings but you do also have to have your husband settings too it's very important yeah all right listen uh they're making a console i don't know why i you know we'll we'll see what it is and that's that's all i want to say about it that's all i want to say about it man this joke is going right over tons of people's heads oh yeah
Starting point is 02:50:03 okay so uh yeah like right over mm-hmm uh-huh um i guess people missed the last new story about snk uh the first one was the part where and not i'm not talking about the artwork for king of fighters 15 that came out recently because a lot of people seem to miss it there but uh yeah no uh saudi arabia just bought snk so you know yeah um we're making fun of saudi arabia or specifically mbs you know not you know yeah it's it's not a good not a good thing so that's what's up uh yeah oh you don't get the mom part women aren't allowed to drive so if your mom drove to the store this is bad and the young progressive leader of the nation uh pretends to change things by moving forward in progressive ways sports washing and such while also uh denying basic human rights
Starting point is 02:50:55 to people for lots of things and uh yeah it sucks so that's all right anyway uh they patched that recently well that's nice i suppose oh okay that's good can they patch jamal kashogi back to life uh they can try let's ask saudi priect if they can't anyway console from snk uh and yeah how about this code masters is being acquired by ea yeah okay that sounds horrible doesn't sega own them no i didn't think so i thought they were on their own sega owned code masters i thought code masters was on their own did you guys like dirt
Starting point is 02:51:53 did you like grid did you like project cars and formula one want the next dirt game to be dirt well here you go yeah they were on their own i think jim sterling was the first person to make comparison but ea is literally the unicorn of video game publishers damn that's all right that's a good line like they just move in and they put it in their mouth and they crush it to bits and then it's dead yeah yeah see but at least when you got the toy for unicron and you transformed it you could have like some fun in that moment where it's like you're wrestling a baby to fucking figure out how to turn it into robot mode unicronic arts that's what he called it there it is damn
Starting point is 02:52:55 well uh yeah code masters is now acquired by ea and generally speaking for those of you who might be new to the concept uh that usually means touch of death because yeah they'll be dead in three years what tends to happen when ea buys you out is they will fund you uh a lot in the short term to make what they want you to make and then uh that will come out but it will have been basically you know the product of like shoddy whip cracking so it might not resemble and it won't it won't do the numbers that it had to have done it won't resemble the the quality that you're used to from said name and then when shoddy product put out under uh worse publisher conditions doesn't deliver from what they expected from the usual sales of good company
Starting point is 02:53:50 then they shut the company down and if you want uh to play through what it feels like to be an ea game play dead space one two and three in a row it is so like laughably obvious that that is how that goes you can feel it in the shooting yeah uh it's usually again the the the sign of business stepping in to kill the thing you love if there's a company that you happen to love that's doing really well uh they you know what the doing too well might mean acquisition and subsequent execution ganglank style mass effect did the same thing like it's the exact same exact same trajectory dragon age one to two oh there's a good one revenge of shit mountain will never leave us dice canada origin systems ea chicago
Starting point is 02:55:03 pandemic studios you know that first mercenaries game is fucking awesome um about bullfrog batteries included maxis westwood westwood's the one that hurts me the most cast my black box uh it said it said a lot at just how outrageous uh command and conquer has been treated that i believe the the news you remember that mobile piece of shit they put out e3 last year the year before the command and conquer mobile crap i don't that like the fucking quote of the day was i believe gemma bane pointing out thank goodness my husband isn't here to see this oh uh jemma yeah that uh is it jemma yeah the the like
Starting point is 02:56:08 that's fucking that's an oof that's a fucking oof yeah you know what i never heard about that game ever again that's literally the last thing i ever heard about it i think she might have killed it um so then uh playfish pandemic yay mythic yay phonomic salt lake nova logic acolyte and there's no more burnout games anymore or they killed criterion and then they killed ghost games which was the sequel to criterion this is the original um epic game store exclusivity deal it's the original like
Starting point is 02:57:13 it's an offer you can't refuse yeah because and then they and then they burn your company down yep but the money too good though the cash too good you know and i mean yeah and that's that's the worst thing because the people who are in charge of that decision who would get the cash way too good of a deal but people who aren't in charge of that decision better start polishing up their fucking resumes naturally and they'll be looking for work in three years and then or and then the most talented of those people leave and go fuck this i'm making my own studio they go on they make some great games they pull on a team they get more employees they get a small thing going it builds up a reputation and then unicron rolls up and does what it does
Starting point is 02:57:58 yeah something really genuinely incredible from a business perspective of having a reputation for killing studios so outrageous that upon purchasing a studio for its ip and talent there is literally always a brain drain so part of the thing you bought just leaves immediately like well every time and the only way to not do that is to stop killing them after you're done with them after a couple years but they're not gonna do that well shout outs to um code masters rip but we'll see i mean respawn hung on right i think the i think i think the oh yeah because apex is doing well
Starting point is 02:59:03 once apex stops doing well they're done i know i think the only deal that might be worse than getting bought by ea is being an independent developer that microsoft asks you to make a game for them i would have said getting bought by activision activ lizard vivendi at the height of its at the height of all bad deals at the height of the of the fucking uh you know amorphous blob i see someone in the chat say that platinum dodged that no they did it they tanked it they took the hit the damage was set they lost our being canceled almost killed that company scale bound damage absolutely affected them but they survived it that's the difference yes
Starting point is 03:00:08 with the help of our friends over at tencent oh fuck that's true i forgot who bought who by the way now on the frame i don't know if you caught that in the news but tencent yeah tencent slid all up in the video slid all up in the video and just grease those palms they started gyrating just getting real close tencent loves a good disaster like that they love it yo this week sucks not a good one not a good one let's make it better shall we uh what do you got the virgil dlc dropped and hitchhiker took a look at it and he saw that oh man virgil has no cameo files because he's not part of the cameo system so they didn't make
Starting point is 03:01:08 a an appearance file make a file for him to appear in anything uh multiplayer related thus there's no virgil pvp or mods incoming because it they they didn't put it in so that's done so not that i would expect not that i would expect that they would want that to be able to happen but even incidentally it it it cannot well there that's a bad news but hitchhiker got a hold of me and told me that there is an empty difficulty oh yes there's a screenshot difficulty selector yes there's an there's this and that uh and that steam database has two pieces of dlc listed for dmc five that are unknown yes correct uh so he took a screenshot and he said uh yeah i saw that of the all the difficulties listed and one of them uh is listed as legendary so it's entirely possible if
Starting point is 03:02:10 this is not just like um a vestigial limb it's entirely possible that they might attempt to release legendary dark knight for uh original dmc five later as well so there might be they might i would i would say there is a very strong likelihood that they will be releasing the rtx and ldk stuff for the pc in the near future so it wasn't announced alongside a special edition but they're going to be putting it out then okay well there you go um but yeah no uh no virgil and strife i sure am happy that the guys are almost done doing the foundation of my house so that i won't have any leaks anymore
Starting point is 03:03:11 and that was a content filled uh silence pause on the podcast that can i have that soda give me the soda i'm working thank you you anyway uh i was i was gonna say what i was saying to him but uh to hitchhiker but uh like it definitely is not a one it's not like the reasons for like virgil not existing in the cameo system makes sense it's like yeah he wouldn't be there right but uh there's no way that the like added bonus of no further mods being possible with that is not something that they're happy about uh or rather there's not something they're not happy about like they must be like oh yeah no we don't want to make it any easier to further mod the game in in ways
Starting point is 03:04:12 like that so you know um that's that possibly could have been a two birds with one stone situation might have been intended uh speaking of modding however uh someone did reach out to me um yes well one cameron let me know that apparently there is a project in the works uh that the shadow of the colossus community is putting together called beyond the forbidden lands that involves a team of volunteers working to resurrect the eight-cut colossus battles dev team dev team of about 25 strong right now building from scratch based on as much info as they can dig up and there's gonna be uh a discord with progress and updates
Starting point is 03:05:09 and the community is growing even og pioneers like nomad colossus are there so uh yeah if you're a shadow the colossus fan uh fucking stay tuned for some cool ash information about that i don't even really need to play that i just kind of want to watch it i just want to see what those would look like completed now of course the golden rule here that we're all aware of shut the fuck up so we're moving on shall we hey i have a news story that somebody just sent to me which is really awesome it's from tech spot it's called the ugly side of nvidia a roller coaster ride that shows when big tech doesn't get it tech spot and hardware unboxed were sent an email from nvidia that they are being blacklisted from review units of future nvidia products because they don't talk enough about
Starting point is 03:06:14 ray tracing okay so yeah i saw that i saw that thread and i didn't quite uh get what was happening so what's the controversy here they don't see things the same way that we nvidia gamers and the rest of the industry do because tech spot and hardware unboxed did not spend enough time breaking down the rtx effects on the new cards instead they focused on traditional rasterization performance you didn't do enough of a big ad for our rtx feature no review for you sounds bad i guess i don't know enough i'm an uninformed well the main reason is because nvidia does much better at rtx but it's a fringe feature but amd has been catching up very quickly in rasterization so it is an unflattering comparison so reviewed it too good no review for you got
Starting point is 03:07:23 gotcha the graphics card manufacturers are absolutely super fucking crazy with their hardware review process it's super fucked hey uh let's take a quick word from our sponsors because we should have done that but we didn't have a normal podcast that's true we had a weird podcast i have a question to ask you during one of our sponsorships segments does it depend on who the sponsors are the idea does because uh you might be disappointed if i mean that's possible i'll just save it i'll just save it that the sponsor you're looking for is is is not present there's a certain it'll come back yeah a certain sponsor has been getting lots of ground swell in the community recently and uh i've been i've been my character has been subjected to
Starting point is 03:08:22 all kinds of arcs that i did not approve of what do you mean what are you referring to yeah doesn't look like we got a sponsor this week that that refers to anything i'm talking about so don't worry about it what you should be worried about there's three things three things you should be worried about the first of those things is your food you're not you want to make sure i like food i'm kind of hungry right now yes so you should be concerned about your food and what better way to get your food delivered to you than with door dash it's true you know what the deal is life is moving fast there's a lot going on there's not always time to deal with you know putting together some sort of
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Starting point is 03:17:07 that was pretty much the news so i feel like i had one more piece of bad news i thought i feel like i had one too but it wasn't documented so it was it was like floating around in my head oh right pornography is over oh well i mean it no so part one of that that makes sense that makes perfect sense like part one of that was i remember reggie was telling me he was like yeah dude some crazy shit going down uh because like the there's a whole fucking awful user generated uh uh part of of uploading porn to porn hub where they're getting in trouble excuse me they're getting in trouble because their filters are not like fast enough and or smart enough to
Starting point is 03:17:55 catch illegal shit so various kinds of very horrible nightmare illegal shit so then now they're like well if they don't have a better system in place then they're getting in illegal trouble with that and that got into a story where uh they lost sponsors and i want to say that within quebec uh one of our representatives uh politicians spoke out about like you know that type of company not being welcome and but i think it sounded like it was really just a they don't understand the nature of a like u g c based uh website where it's all about the filtration system it's not that they themselves are breaking the law it's that they don't have the right filters in place to catch it um well you can't there's a certain nightmare shit you
Starting point is 03:18:51 can't really design a computer filter around i don't think well you need um there you need one you need auto recognition of things that have previously been deleted and two we meant when you have too many things coming in that can't manually be checked then you have to have like for example i believe like they had like um license checking in place to you know verify like at actors and things like that but uh yeah anyway the point is that it was such a mess that they were and they were losing sponsors and the whole thing was uh uh escalating in such a way that they were pretty much heading for possibly shut down so they just did the reasonable thing you do and they said all right all u gc is now deleted and cleared out about 60 percent or 65
Starting point is 03:19:34 percent of their videos uh got wiped out and that was the end of that and as a business not why pornography is dead oh okay so what are you talking about then uh they did that and then mastercard and visa pulled support anyway right yeah and then pulled support for all their partner networks and are looking as to what other pornography things they will be pulling support for in the future uh and people people in the sex work industry are worried that they will then turn their attention to say only vans or some such so is it branching off of that initial complaint yeah so like what so here's the the timeline was a new york times article comes out says you can find a lot of horrible criminal like cp and sexual assault videos on porn hub right now like
Starting point is 03:20:26 that and uh everybody started to fucking freak out i think one of the things was facebook found 84 million instances of child pornography on it so everybody's like oh shit facebook kill it all yo yeah you know what if there's like you know what no if there's an upload button yeah yeah yeah so everybody's like we gotta we gotta kill this shit and so porn hub goes okay there's probably a lot of dirt on there how many videos we got that could be dirt and somebody said four million and then somebody else said kill it just just delete it all yep um and that was tuesday after why fuck around uh the mastercard and visa were like we're thinking about cutting shit and then on thursday mastercard and visa looked at what happened and went no we're gonna
Starting point is 03:21:21 cut shit anyway hmm so then how does that extend off to sites that don't have an upload button well they the one of the first they went well everybody that is business related to this company also will get their shit so brazzers is dead for example so yeah a big so there's a there's a whole network that yeah is owned by brazzers uh funny enough interestingly enough uh some people who are locals might already be aware of this but the qa industry and the porn industry are very close to each other in montreal because uh there are major companies here like brazzers and the uh parent uh qa company mind geek where essentially they hire lots of people that came straight from qa to do testing on porn sites and it's a huge huge thing that has a massive um
Starting point is 03:22:30 uh studio here specifically in cobeck so uh yeah those i have a bunch of people they both get screwed at work ha i have a bunch of uh i have a bunch of friends who uh damn some people like a lot some some people move from uh game studio to game studio doing uh testing but some people move out of games into testing in other businesses and this one uh and and for porn in particular with the the the giant setup they had a lot of friends of mine left the qa studios i was at to go work uh there you know so um yeah that's all connected so yeah this might be a cascade effect because uh payment verification like mass crime visa and banks are always trying to shut down porn for whatever because i don't know yeah but i bet you
Starting point is 03:23:32 i wouldn't be surprised if it were i don't know well i mean could be the puritanical side of things if if you're going back a certain time the americans up to their shit again you know the blood and guts has to cover the titty you see that's true but uh make no mistake the history of every medium uh at the very least digital or uh or um format i should say was decided by who accepted the porn hdvd did not accept the porn dead uh the beta did not accept the porn ironically enough but dead so uh history is littered with the corpses of those who have went against the porn better believe on god that people will find a way and they will they will fucking put their money elsewhere they will do other things you know all right paypal it
Starting point is 03:24:43 is paypal it is whatever you know venmo cash app fucking kofi you know just direct interact me uh a pornography dollar please uh 0.001 btc for a single porn i don't know how bitcoins work and i'm good with that all right we're moving on emails i guess yeah we are let's go say first first you have we have at least one good email first you get yourself a really good video card okay done uh let's see here step three profit is that is that how we're gonna go
Starting point is 03:25:38 step two install dungeon siege oh jav once again does it no does it no no i don't know about that bro it doesn't win for a bunch of reasons one of which they they don't care about a lot of the crap and sad i don't know about that uh how about one great email one great email would be great that was an email sent into castle super beast mail at gmail.com all right one great email coming up okay what are you eating hey oh boy it's not string is it no it's cat hair no that's fine why wait what string yes uh ever since my friend or someone told me about uh a cat
Starting point is 03:26:47 that she had that swallowed string and was the swall and it started to go in the stomach but then the part of the string was still outside the stomach and you can't get that out because obviously you could fucking damage the insides of the cat if you were to just pull it so uh be wary of of like string it's dangerous yeah we were told when we're told by uh our vet when we first got to our baby he's there make sure not to give him any ropes yeah you know you know dogs chew on ropes and stuff like that because if the dog eats a tiny part of the rope then the rope can get just jammed in there and then you got to cut up with the dog and get the rope out you got to be really aware not to fucking give that shit to your pets that might swallow it
Starting point is 03:27:40 it's it's dangerous um anyway no he's he's disgusting he ate he eats cat hair all right this one coming in from an anonymous source that works at gamestop oh i forgot about this fuck i was supposed to talk about this thank goodness you you brought it up so you caught you caught some of this too i did so game stop employee here we all know how bad it is with the california being in full lockdown we shouldn't be open at all but every police force in the state says it's not enforcing lockdown stuff so we're screwed either way anyway gamestop recently switched from ups to fedex which already has a huge mess already was a huge mess
Starting point is 03:28:41 so stolen from reddit yeah fedex is instructing everyone to hold all outgoing packages until further notice to quote unquote lighten the load of outgoing deliveries we all know these outgoing deliveries are going to be guests who ordered shit online to be delivered to their house even if they paid for extended expedite for expedited shipping doesn't matter so that means it's up to us the employees to deliver packages for to the united states postal service gamestop has cut hours like crazy and given us less coverage how are we supposed to deliver packages and keep our store open oh and wait what uh gamestop employees are being asked to go and make deliveries of these games because of the fedex uh like pause on deliveries
Starting point is 03:29:37 what the fuck you must have heard a different story yeah i heard a completely different gamestop story okay so all right this employee continues to go on uh it's up to us the employees to deliver packages to the usps gamestop cut hours like crazy and gave us less coverage how we supposed to deliver package and keep our stores open um we also have to prepare the packages as well so hopefully no customers walk into the store while we're open um so now we're not only merchandising experts sales experts but also delivery drivers and icing on the cake uh we're supposed to have a surprise conference call with some more updates um later on uh so that the second part the surprise conference call uh was about having more ps5 and xbox systems
Starting point is 03:30:32 in stock this this is what i was talking about so this yeah but only online you have to go and store to order it rewind they were getting more consoles in stock but only online and you have to be in store to order it that's right so we had literally 30 minutes to prepare and already had a line waiting outside during a pandemic and we get an email saying how many systems are allowed to sell per store which means we have to be very careful to not oversell otherwise we could get in trouble and have our store uh location excluded from future events and allocations so what happens other stores of course don't follow this i had four customers wait four hours to get a ps5 and they got nothing this is after helping some people uh out getting a console but after having to refresh
Starting point is 03:31:24 the page online a bunch of times the listing kept getting updated manually by corporate so we kept seeing running out of the system even when we'd put it in the cart sometimes we couldn't process it and uh most of the time they could only sell a bundle uh because that was the only option available meaning people just come back and return the items they don't want uh one scumbag in particular bought four ps5s with bundles and came back to return all the extra stuff with them um um so uh yeah to somebody who contacted me about this i found out at 3 30 that this was going to happen at four o'clock was not given any heads up to prepare anything safety wise or or given any extra hours to schedule more people literally nothing they got 10 ps uh they got 10 consoles
Starting point is 03:32:19 between four skews and because of the online shit they were not even able to order all 10 so then they had to say okay everybody get out but hey uh no we technically still have more consoles we can't do it so you have to leave but hey the company did decide to drop off some cases of monster for each store so instead of getting the hours the extra hours needed and the extra staff available they just made sure everybody was fueled up on energy drinks so there you go thank you uh anonymous employee goes on to say that uh i like working in the industry even if it's just on the retail aspect of it i like this job i just can't let corporate scumbags get away with the shit any longer so yeah here's the story please bring it up
Starting point is 03:33:18 yep yep yep you know here's here's here's the thing man uh they survived months ago at the start of this bullshit in march when we saw like the fucking malibu gia and his boardroom running the company um from the safety of their own homes basically putting other people on the front lines and saying fuck you don't you dare stop working it's it's pretty easy to be like this company scummy that's a bad way to treat your employees but now we're in the place is like wow this company scummy this literally killed people two weeks from now uh they they managed to uh to survive the when i was like well we're watching them on the way out and you know i think i made the analogy to reggie uh parachuting in to the burning plane getting all the cash he can and
Starting point is 03:34:26 parachuting out before it goes down but it didn't actually go down and explode and reggie has remained i believe completely radio silent on all things game stop related after the initial announcement that he was going to that's smart joining that's real smart the team i believe reggie continues to just be known as that ex-nintendo guy and that's all there is to it yeah this is the same company that says when the cops come to shut you down you tell those cops that they don't know what they're talking about soon we'll come the the employee memo if the cop tries to shut you down you shoot that cop and you sell his corpse a video game used mind you what do you think we meant by power to the players oh my god all right that's the podcast we're done now
Starting point is 03:35:30 could be uh the one good piece of news like the whole podcast was that disco elixir thing yeah i guess that's exciting woo wow you you you

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