Castle Super Beast - CSB 102: We Shame Laval

Episode Date: January 12, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 atti ass bola hey there how's it going? I'm alright how you doing? good afternoon Wally good afternoon
Starting point is 00:00:43 and good afternoon to you all or good evening or good morning or whatever the fuck you're listening to this all of our wonderful listeners generic greetings who did not commit terrorism over the past week ok now the broad definition of terrorism can include lots of things you know
Starting point is 00:01:12 sometimes you download a car occasionally you download a car for a little baby terrorism sometimes you park a vehicle full of explosives near the capital but hey it's all in the same folder region
Starting point is 00:01:39 yeah downloading a car shit though that's crazy yeah I don't think we were there yet no one's really talking about the parked van it's kind of weird you mean the thing I didn't know about until you just said it no one's talking about the parked van full of crazy shit
Starting point is 00:01:54 it's a bit wild how things came and went so quickly that the escalated parts like hey they found a bomb and a van full of weapons and a ton of molotov cocktails and unexplored unexplosed unbuilt molotov material and a van parked two blocks away it's kind of nuts because I'm like where's the multi where's the stories come nothing
Starting point is 00:02:25 it's a fairly dramatic week there's a lot so I think my brain might actually be melted as I just actually typed into Google I was like I'll look up what Willie's talking about and I actually just typed in parked van full of crazy shit yeah instead of you know like a real set of search terms
Starting point is 00:02:46 you might as well the unglorious realities of living van life hashtag yeah I don't think that's what you're talking about that's not it no but anyway it was just you know I'm like yeah there's stuff that should probably be spotlighted a little bit more when you're talking about the intent of the day and yeah I'm like
Starting point is 00:03:09 I tell you what though it feels really good to be able to talk about this on my social media platforms that I'm totally not banned from doesn't that feel great oh yeah I want to quote
Starting point is 00:03:31 I believe Tim Dillon wow things are really heating up out there says the man tweeting from his yacht yeah he says the billionaire tweeting from his yacht I saw a variation they're getting rowdy out there no no
Starting point is 00:03:52 I'm a big fan of the way that Jim Sterling keeps posting the fucking start of that fucking music video I forgot it was by the Bee Gees or whatever yeah yeah yeah yeah and it's been hey it's been one week did everybody enjoy their 2020 December 32nd memes
Starting point is 00:04:15 I remember we got I was either an email here or it was a or as a fucking twitch message somewhere so I was like wow I can't wait for 2020 to be over woo and I'm like you know that means nothing time is not real time is fake
Starting point is 00:04:37 time is never forget social construct here people don't ever ever forget that time is fake yeah now um and another friend of mine put together a thought that was just something echoing like the idea that it's like
Starting point is 00:04:56 you know man I'm getting exhausted of sitting and watching history go by person says to themselves that hasn't left their house in five months you know yeah like I think my favorite my favorite breakdown of total events was um
Starting point is 00:05:17 like 2020 at least it can't be this bad in 2021 and then 2021 is do the people do the insurrectionists did they forget about the plague oh yeah
Starting point is 00:05:35 yeah did they guys guys I know you guys want to do all that shit with the government but did you forget there's a plague going on well then no but it's not real so those those two to go hand in hand um yeah they're sleeping Squidward 2021 and then there's woke up woke Squidward
Starting point is 00:05:58 2020 W.O.N yeah uh yeah anyway um well now that we have that out of the way do we
Starting point is 00:06:13 um do we I don't know man I tell you what this is history dude this is legitimate history like someone someone is going to have a textbook in grade nine in the future and they're going to have to memorize and report on the date
Starting point is 00:06:30 that the president was banned off of social media for rousing people up into a storm of the capital during legislation little little Jimmy is going to open their history book and in the history book they're going to look in
Starting point is 00:06:52 and there's going to be a photo and there's going to be some screenshots of some memes and then they're going to be like why is it so funny that the president lost his only fans and then they'll have to explain to the child what the only fans was and then they'll flip the page and then they'll then they'll be like
Starting point is 00:07:17 now I don't understand is this why I can't say poggers anymore yeah I think um the the upgrade from like that thing that your friends used to like like plan parties and otherwise like just do do hot or not
Starting point is 00:07:45 essentially that was super optional and mostly annoying at the beginning is now the thing that is like a major conversation platform that kind of is a place where literally policy is announced you know
Starting point is 00:08:09 and um it just yeah like it's very very strange to kind of realize in a way that like through this week and all the the the bannings and the parlor stuff and everything going on with Apple and Google that like um once upon a time like websites existed on the internet
Starting point is 00:08:32 and like you just made them and then you would go there or not and you know that was kind of it in a way but like that never went away but picking up your phone using that to get to stuff faster is kind of now perception has made that feel like
Starting point is 00:08:50 that's the only way to access information even though it's like it's just the fastest way to do it it's not the only way to do it does this make any sense? yeah I know what you're talking about yeah it's just it's kind of it's kind of like weird because you know
Starting point is 00:09:06 once upon a time even websites were fancy and people were just connecting on fucking BBS and shit you know and it was there was always just like okay so these phone lines can have different ways of exchanging information um
Starting point is 00:09:22 and you can pick which one you want to use but like now the one that we're all most commonly used to out of convenience the convenience makes it feel like there's no other option in a way you know you like I mean there's a before we go any further
Starting point is 00:09:38 and what I genuinely feel is a really interesting discussion and I'm glad to have it I would like to respond to the gentleman in the corner desperately not trying to piss his pants
Starting point is 00:09:56 upset that their pop culture video game podcast is broaching subjects oh we move past that they're gone they're already gone
Starting point is 00:10:12 no they're not I can guarantee they're not actually back they're just hearing about this part and they're getting mad that it's still there but we're past that point dude to those folks that have time stamped this and come to say hello
Starting point is 00:10:28 hello current events have become quite blatant untenable no no current events are not minor happenstances they are massive
Starting point is 00:10:44 sweeping things if I don't know Quebec was currently being invaded by the Russia I would probably talk about it on my stream and so on and so forth yeah sure
Starting point is 00:11:00 you know and the bonus to that is that every time that you and I have this kind of discussion I'm sure you've retweeted some things and then people the keyboard war continues
Starting point is 00:11:16 it has never been easier to find out who you should block from pieces of social media it has never been a faster process I broke down
Starting point is 00:11:32 perhaps the other day which was disagreement but reasonable tone despite their weird position then you grab your mouse and you click on their name
Starting point is 00:11:48 and you scroll one one mouse scroll down and you go oh and then you move to the upper right and you click on the block button it's like literally every single time
Starting point is 00:12:04 it's hilarious it's hilarious well yeah because there's a difference between simply existing in a space where you don't actually have to form an opinion you're just throwing
Starting point is 00:12:20 counterpoints at someone who's stating what they believe in versus doing the dangerous terrifying thing you're just stating what you believe in and then having to actually defend that because by cementing something that makes you vulnerable
Starting point is 00:12:36 but if you never actually do that if you just float on the the border of the topic and just say what you disagree with ultimately but never really cement where that comes from you can nebulously move from spot to spot
Starting point is 00:12:52 and sniper perch to sniper perch never actually having to commit to anything it's a very convenient internet position to have is it all but what about this ah just fuck off how about that alright so now that I've said my fun little
Starting point is 00:13:08 piece so that I don't have to say it later I will probably totally have to say it later let's get back into it social media is the devil it's ruined everything we should all go back to nature become monk
Starting point is 00:13:28 yeah fuck it okay but what about monk plus twitter monkeys with twitter how about it I'm pretty sure I have seen a gimmick account I mean there's the birds rights activist
Starting point is 00:13:46 which is the bird version I mean follow nyanners on twitter that's probably half way there hmm I don't think I do you know what this like I have a really
Starting point is 00:14:06 good example for how social media has failed us I'm gonna use youtube as an example but everybody knows that facebook and twitter and such have been complicit in allowing this kind of
Starting point is 00:14:26 nonsense to be promoted and you know disseminated to everybody a year ago I was browsing on my youtube recommends
Starting point is 00:14:42 and I was looking at game reviews I was looking like angry centaur gaming who does fantastic stuff I was checking out some skill up stuff etc and I forget the guy's name but he does this really good youtube series
Starting point is 00:14:58 where it's like an X series wasn't killed it was murdered and he goes into the breakdowns of like the fucking horrible studio mismanagement behind like what killed certain games or what fucked up certain releases and I had been watching that
Starting point is 00:15:16 for a while and then eventually in the corner of my youtube recommendations I saw I forget the fucking name of it but it was phrased as the truth about
Starting point is 00:15:32 and it was some popular video game and I thought that it was going to be like a review breakdown but it wasn't I clicked on it and within about 5 seconds realized
Starting point is 00:15:48 that it was did you know that those people are ruining your video game and I went uh fine and then I clicked off of it
Starting point is 00:16:04 and thought nothing of it my recommendations on youtube became fucking tainted for weeks I was being recommended every fucking psychotic
Starting point is 00:16:22 political conspiracy theory fucking shit because I accidentally clicked on one fucking video oh yeah that happened to be on the vtube uh wave where I clicked on a vtuber video
Starting point is 00:16:38 and every fucking algorithm went oh shit you're in buddy this is all you want right yeah and it's like god damn it guys well anyway I mean you know
Starting point is 00:16:54 intelligent discourse is surely taking place somewhere uh not here not here oh fuck no but uh it is uh it is there is something interesting to the the fact that like
Starting point is 00:17:10 there's a question of really simple one where it's like hey should we moderate death threats and that well that divides opinion and interestingly that same division of opinion
Starting point is 00:17:26 is literally the difference between america and canada yeah I was about to actually like it's the actual border difference between them and us is I'm trying to be like extra um
Starting point is 00:17:42 I'm sorry I'm sorry you go on go on yeah no I'm just pointing out that like it causes such a discussion because like it's it's you know it's a major point of our of our country's policy up here in the way
Starting point is 00:17:58 but like you know the concept of like um and then you have to get down to the basis of essentially like infringing on others versus the freedoms of the self and then where you spiritually
Starting point is 00:18:14 not even philosophically but like spiritually land on that you know um yeah we've got a large american audience hello americas how you guys doing I hope you're doing alright but there is a there is a a significant legal
Starting point is 00:18:30 ethical and moral difference between the two countries we're obviously as Willie mentioned a canadian podcast and uh the free speech laws are different here it's more of a freedom of expression thing which the biggest differences that hate speech is explicitly not
Starting point is 00:18:46 covered under any circumstance uh and there's all sorts of little pieces in there that are more specific in particular there's a holocaust denial um a rule on the books uh that to my knowledge
Starting point is 00:19:02 basically was invented and keeps getting thrown out of court and put back into court based off of a singular university professor yeah that so it keeps breaking it I and then like technically beating it and then they change
Starting point is 00:19:18 it to get him again so uh I like to look at every uh at individual issues and decide how I feel about them as opposed to just wrapping myself in any form of blanket and I can say with that that
Starting point is 00:19:34 there's a lot about our laws that I personally don't agree with or like um and I think that like there is a gulf of like specificity you can you can choose
Starting point is 00:19:50 to categorize like hates between door term hate speech uh and like everything that fits into that that's a broad category but I think when you get there's there's you can you can get much more specific and look at something like death threats like I said
Starting point is 00:20:06 and go like well this is the like reddest zone of this entire folder you know and um to me I think that that's something that is a very black and white like yeah no that
Starting point is 00:20:22 sucks you shouldn't have to deal with that uh and people who like behave that way and or potentially are dead serious about that type of shit should not be suffered right so um that's one part where
Starting point is 00:20:38 by going overboard on where I think it should be they happen to cover where I think it should be but I also realize that living in a nation of millions means the line will never be where your personal uh comfort
Starting point is 00:20:54 point is right like society is compromise you mean the society that we live in yes exactly we happen to live in one so uh for the way Canada works I would like
Starting point is 00:21:10 to see uh hate speech laws a little less extreme but they do need to be above fucking nothing and uh you know I it's and we're seeing some of this discussion play out
Starting point is 00:21:26 right now below us I think it's a slightly different conversation they're happening right now they're having a lot of conversations but speech seems to be I mean I'm looking from a distance but speech seems to be the second conversation
Starting point is 00:21:46 we're having right now exactly right but the thing about it is that in uh because again we're human beings and we don't always you don't always wrap yourself in the blanket and like in fact mostly idiots do when it comes to just like determining which
Starting point is 00:22:02 what they believed uh of their of their what what they're being told to believe or what your policies are whether you're left or right or or authoritarian or more libertarian or whatever the case is um but uh when it comes to like for example uh how do you
Starting point is 00:22:18 feel about fucking storming the capital uh there's reason there's a lot there's people that are like well I should be leaning with everybody who's right on this but that obviously seems too fucking far I'm not gonna agree with that that shit's crazy right there were those who said that and in the same
Starting point is 00:22:34 way now when they're like hey we're doing a massive um there's this massive cleansing going on because like social media is banning a ton of accounts not just trump obviously but a lot of other people um I thought they said they couldn't do that
Starting point is 00:22:50 right and facebook and then everything else and then be too hard and then run run the run the bit about like tiktok band trump before trump band tiktok and so on um but all that to say that there are people who are like uh
Starting point is 00:23:06 going okay well that's cool and then there's people that are going that's cool but I'm also kind of nervous about like the idea of like oh fuck the tech oligarchy can do whatever it wants in this way and stuff so
Starting point is 00:23:22 you kind of um you kind of look at it in a you look at it from a standpoint of like alright what's justified and what does it imply and what does it mean in the grand scheme of things and um
Starting point is 00:23:38 yeah like I said there is both discussions happening these are all like I mean they're all interrelated they're all obviously all different conversations um the the tech oligarchy thing
Starting point is 00:23:54 is in particular it's two conversations the first of which is like you guys seem to like totally let a bunch of people plan a bunch of terrorism right out in the open that seems really fucked up
Starting point is 00:24:10 and ignorant and now that everyone went what the fuck are you doing you're using bad faith arguments to try and go hey guys know now it's time to like ignore that bad stuff and hey what about the unity remember that
Starting point is 00:24:26 right when you get called out for it but to continue so part one is you guys just let a bunch of people break the law slash your own rules cause of reasons
Starting point is 00:24:42 and then part two is while I do believe that this is a course correct to your own explicit rules um it does give the worry that basically like 10 dudes
Starting point is 00:25:00 have a hold on international if not global communication which I mean that actually that one's a lot more complicated
Starting point is 00:25:16 because Twitter's an American company which means it's the Americans deal to deal with it I guess right so if there was a Canadian Twitter it would be our thing there's a fucking the china has like social media apps and they're all fucking
Starting point is 00:25:32 nightmares right etc right but it's the kind of situation with where maybe
Starting point is 00:25:48 and this is just a big maybe having a totally unregulated completely free market with no anti-monopoly protection might not have been the best idea if you didn't want a tech oligarchy that could control your communication which
Starting point is 00:26:08 maybe but from and from the sounds of it the like the CEOs of these these 10 people as you say like these the CEOs of these companies are also realizing and trying to wing it every time they get interviewed about these types
Starting point is 00:26:24 of things and policies there's always an answer that is much less certain and more like yeah we're kind of trying to figure it out and I guess we'll see you know that's been the tone that's been the
Starting point is 00:26:40 like every time they've interviewed Jack about this type of stuff it's always been that type of tone Zuck has been I gotta say I fucking hate I fucking hate that people refer to the CEO fucking Twitter on like a fucking first name basis
Starting point is 00:26:56 that is that I fuck him Jack Dorsey uses full fucking name he's not some guy he's the fucking CEO of a major corporation hey man he's not your buddy
Starting point is 00:27:12 so are there people that you want hey Mark how's the the F books so wait hold on there's fuck that are there people that that should refer to you as Patrick what do you what do you mean are there literally are there is there a level of distance
Starting point is 00:27:28 that should apply to yeah no I'm saying if I was being if I if I was the kind of person who would get pulled in front of a fucking round table of senators to answer questions about my company I'm not oh hey it's Pat no it's hey that's Patrick
Starting point is 00:27:44 well then the the content creator yeah like this fucking bull I hate it dude it's such a non point it's like whatever it's the fucking syllables that refer to the person like who cares
Starting point is 00:28:00 it's nothing like it's it's this weird like friendliness with this fucking person that I can't stand what are we doing we're are we doing are we doing the the fucking it shouldn't be Dorsey Chan and Jack is too too close and too too intimate
Starting point is 00:28:16 is it too intimate to use the like so fucking so stupid it is stupid what are we doing anyway but to to to continue on it's like it's this weird thing of like well you've got a tech oligarchy so what do you do well you can have the government break
Starting point is 00:28:32 those companies up you can have the government label certain forms of communications as utility and nationalize them or you can attempt to put in
Starting point is 00:28:48 some kind of regulatory practices or you can let the free market decide and the the political ideology particularly of those responsible
Starting point is 00:29:04 for the current going on would view probably all of those as unacceptable well yeah all they all every step towards less control is not something that a given corporation would want furthermore
Starting point is 00:29:20 the utility aspect turns it into like well if it if you're turning this into water then you have to step in and run it like water yeah now personally I don't think I don't think anybody
Starting point is 00:29:36 wants forms of internet communication to be nationalized yeah especially especially American tech companies being nationalized by the US to people that are not in the US
Starting point is 00:29:52 there's also something there's also something super weird about the fact that like so we're currently all on twitter this is where we've landed but we've I've landed on twitter but we've jumped ship a bunch of times in different ways
Starting point is 00:30:08 on social media and things that have been thriving have vanished entirely populations have migrated like the idea that like the current moment now is where you step in and go this is water
Starting point is 00:30:24 we're turning twitter into water it's like well this just happens to be the platform that is one that like regulated characters and you know what I mean it shortened how many words you can say so then it became popular through to that but maybe
Starting point is 00:30:40 some common sense rules that would be broadly applicable but specifically regulated would be able to help this kind of situation so you can have rules like if you're walking by a bodega and somebody's playing
Starting point is 00:30:58 the new rihanna track that you go to jail that's a good start if you hear it we can go from there monsanto rules okay I hear you fair enough
Starting point is 00:31:14 but anyway no and by the way I do see and I notice and I acknowledge your very astute switch over to mention a bodega as opposed to a depanere
Starting point is 00:31:30 well so you want to get you want to reach those listeners I'm not going to jail for walking by a depanere that has music playing out of it you want to reach those listeners right in their home neighborhoods with their bodegas
Starting point is 00:31:46 that we're so familiar with up here in french canada anyway um yeah no no no twitter happens to be where we are right now and then on top of that twitter happens to be the format that is like the most incendiary
Starting point is 00:32:02 by nature because this is the fastest and closest we've ever gotten to mind reading well actually I would say that there was a platform slightly more incendiary but I would have said that
Starting point is 00:32:18 12 hours ago sure fine yes um and on that note like if we can just like you know wheel the the fucking cart a little further down the street for a second um I was
Starting point is 00:32:34 you know what I like I was infinitely more surprised by how many people were not aware of what was about to go down because it had been super publicized
Starting point is 00:32:50 everywhere that you know they gather and uh for months now prior to the election even um I had been following just to see because I want to understand I want to see
Starting point is 00:33:06 like there's moments of like grand delusion that I see that make no fucking sense to me and I want to understand how people process this to digest it for themselves so um there's a subreddit called ask trump supporters where you see people ask questions
Starting point is 00:33:22 and then supporters would answer with what they believe and why and then you can ask follow up questions so there would be discussions that would ideally lead to someone who is like converting this into their
Starting point is 00:33:38 their mind like they can explain the process as it happens in a way right um and then in addition to that after the donald got kicked off of reddit uh there was the donald.win which is a just open forum that existed where again openly very blatantly and very
Starting point is 00:33:54 very loudly there were like yep grab the ammo box boys we're getting ready for january 6th and this was well I mean I can I mean I can tell you the answer to your your question which is how come people didn't notice uh I'm going to go look at my twitter
Starting point is 00:34:10 I'm following 243 people and you can refresh and your feed shows you those people's feeds uh I uh that's an artist, some pals a lot of youtubers, you etc etc, voice actors and I was having this discussion with Reggie
Starting point is 00:34:26 like those are people that I like that's why I follow them and uh while I will sit here and say uh
Starting point is 00:34:42 possibly a bunch of stupid ignorant shit about Banjo Kazooie or whatever and then say with genuine real reality I actually do want to understand what people like about this or
Starting point is 00:34:58 a music or a movie or what have you right I don't particularly find it to be a good use of my time to stick my head into a bucket of shit
Starting point is 00:35:14 and ask an asshole why he keeps pooping so that is totally reasonable and that represents most people not wanting to waste their time and I would say that
Starting point is 00:35:30 on top of that general feeling is the what the social dilemma brings up in that like it's also gonna just feed you back your surroundings and you're not gonna really encounter anything that leans too far outside of that for the most part
Starting point is 00:35:46 uh looks like a corpse anyway nevermind that when when you encounter this stuff I'm describing you have to seek it out because it's not gonna be inside of the little
Starting point is 00:36:02 the box that your feet is pushing at you and when you're refreshing your updates and your news you're not gonna see that there either but that's the precise reason why I seeked it out I really wanted to know and it's the type of thing that you know I find
Starting point is 00:36:18 helps me understand more because I'm infinitely curious about these types of moments I've oftentimes described how much I love Shutter Island because of its concept and what it represents in a way you know I like seeing that process
Starting point is 00:36:34 go down but I also like trying to understand what the most rational what the most rational person among you would be saying in these circumstances so all that to say that amongst that was a whole lot of irrational and a very
Starting point is 00:36:50 very loud call that shit was going down on the sixth right so um yeah that taking people by storm uh was a little bit surprising not because I expected most people to be on top of it but there are
Starting point is 00:37:06 others who do go in and do report on that stuff and there are accounts and and pages where they're like hey I browse parlor so you don't have to or you know a couple other places like that and like some of those places didn't really catch it
Starting point is 00:37:22 either the short answer is that the people who are paid to pay attention get those reports and what not and just don't pay attention I suppose well anyway that time's done and we're past that
Starting point is 00:37:38 point but yeah it was it was written in the fucking in the sky loudly and very alarmingly so and it wasn't just written with a giant font too but like some of the most
Starting point is 00:37:54 like some of the most insane straight up calls for murder were massively upvoted you know and like you would see a number next to them next to some of the craziest takes that was like yeah couple thousand people
Starting point is 00:38:10 loved that so you're like oh this is not just the you would see the strength of the statement and the strength of the crazy you know at the same time it's this thing of like you could easily say and I would say you would accurately say
Starting point is 00:38:26 that level of insanity is fringe however when you're dealing with a really big thing fringe is big mmm
Starting point is 00:38:42 it's really actually pretty fucking big you scale it upwards right yeah yeah everybody knew I there was all like we had we went to fucking god we went
Starting point is 00:38:58 to college together obviously people know this but I remember we were next to etc you remember that club space etc which was the lgbdq plus
Starting point is 00:39:14 at the time it stopped at q I had the discussion group it stopped at q at the time yeah and I remember having an argument with a guy in there because he was a fucking asshole he was the fringest
Starting point is 00:39:30 asshole I had ever met in my entire college the fucking experience because his ideal world was to get rid of the breeders like he was that guy but he was one
Starting point is 00:39:48 dude he didn't have a fucking giant fucking support network to find other like minded fucking social media service where he could find people that thought
Starting point is 00:40:06 like him etc yeah so you scale it upwards and you start to see the power of those numbers and it gets a bit fucking nuts because you're like well that is a
Starting point is 00:40:22 completely off the reservation thought not even thought process but like fucking conclusion and you're this is the part where you would expect to see like this post deleted by a moderator
Starting point is 00:40:38 or whatever the fuck but it's like nah like it's people in the sub thread detailing like what the best method of attack would be you know or even have or even getting into
Starting point is 00:40:54 okay so we all know that like war sucks we do know that that's an important one so there's people that are like straight up going like we all know that war sucks and this is an awful thing to be in and no one really enjoys it
Starting point is 00:41:10 but quite frankly if we're gonna go this road we have to be sure about it you know and people then like to cite that either they or they know or they're related to someone with X years of service
Starting point is 00:41:26 and they can get those people to stand behind them and you know get to your local militia and like the level of discussion goes into the not just the random asshole saying I'll fucking kill you death threat but then it goes into the like logistics
Starting point is 00:41:42 of how we're gonna do it type of thing and I'm just like yeah this is here this is what it is it's just sitting right there and it's upvoted it's on the front page you know um anyway
Starting point is 00:41:58 yeah sticky thread I'll kill you I noticed I saw some clips of you discovering just how fucking outrageous that shit is you're dancing around like a jackass I'm gonna beat the shit out of you you love dancing around like a jackass
Starting point is 00:42:20 the fucking battle aura that comes from Yakuza is just oh yeah they're giving off some kind of yeah some kind of some kind of battle smell but yeah it's all it's a fucking
Starting point is 00:42:38 interesting times with living in a society and what not yeah what I used to you must have seen the collections you must have seen the collections of like
Starting point is 00:42:56 like every what do you call it how do I put this every time you saw a layer of like it's gonna be this that saves him though right
Starting point is 00:43:12 it's gonna be this that turns over the election and then that thing falls apart and then a lot runs a little further back to the next platform and then the next thing falls and then they run to the next one like hey stop that
Starting point is 00:43:28 nope stop the stop the puppy did he stop he was eating a piece of his bone that he ate earlier alright right so when you go from everywhere starting from stop to count all the way down and then it's like no it'll be the supreme court and then you
Starting point is 00:43:44 get all your wojak memes and you get them all out right there's a point where like it takes it goes from that generalized like I've edited my bearded yes guy to be carrying a briefcase to the supreme court and that means I'll feel good about this and then that didn't happen
Starting point is 00:44:00 and then nothing else happened and every other thing just turned out to be complete nonsense and when you're on like step 30 the tone takes a shift right and the tone takes a shift for the cue and it starts becoming a lot more like look to the skies the secrets
Starting point is 00:44:16 will unfold you will see and it always says things are going to happen fast faster than you can possibly imagine but don't worry hold the line peeds hold the line you know and it starts to get so unhinged
Starting point is 00:44:32 and straight up mentally ill at a point tag me in tag me in on tag okay so I could feel where you were going
Starting point is 00:44:48 on this you're describing disassociation with reality you're describing like almost communal narcissism right but more importantly than that
Starting point is 00:45:04 there's a term not from psychology but from critical thinking it's called magical thinking do you know about the secret tell me about the secret woolly the term is magical thinking yes how familiar
Starting point is 00:45:20 are you with the secret as in like the Oprah thing with the the book the self-help book a family member of mine got really into it and she would make her vision boards that's about as much as I know
Starting point is 00:45:36 perfect do you know what the secret is if you think about it you can make it real if you think about it you can make it real that's the secret that is the definitive example
Starting point is 00:45:52 of magical thinking and it is very very appealing if you just want it bad enough it will still happen because you're a good person and you're doing a good job and you don't mean
Starting point is 00:46:10 harm on nobody so if you just want it bad enough the universe will just provide for you it will provide it I hear a sound of victory I hear a sound of victory this is the kind
Starting point is 00:46:28 of thing that you can apply to certain religious groups you can apply it to honestly what I would call the religion of money you can apply it to Wall Street people and the market will provide
Starting point is 00:46:44 when I hear the phrase of the market will provide that might as well be a priest speaking Latin to me that's weird shit that's like the fucking free market has like a fucking invisible force or some shit fuck your driver's license bitch
Starting point is 00:47:00 you don't need that shit it's also cult shit and a lot of what I see my initial immediate brain thought is cult is magic thoughts and cult
Starting point is 00:47:20 and then I see you saw that copypasta I'm sure which one the oh god I'll go fucking drag it up one gene retweeted I probably have but it depends on
Starting point is 00:47:36 which one you're talking about oh god I'll have to fucking it's the like we're gonna fight the revolution and then like 10 minutes later the glorious leader is like begging to be let back on twitter the glorious leader that you photoshopped into 40k memes
Starting point is 00:47:54 oh yeah ok so honestly half that shit that gene's posting is stuff that I went and saw myself on the boards you know yeah yeah yeah totally geotis
Starting point is 00:48:10 geotis is the term people didn't know about geotis I remember I I introduced that I explained that to punch mom and reggie at the same time I didn't just jaw dropped like what
Starting point is 00:48:26 and it's like oh you didn't hear about the god emperor of the united states you missed out you know yeah and not only that too but like you hit up against it if you ever decide to seek it you just gotta search for
Starting point is 00:48:42 I mean like hashtag QAnon isn't gonna give you anything you gotta find the proper wwg1 wwga ww but that has since gotten edited down because I think those get cleared out every
Starting point is 00:48:58 once in a while but the term is where we go one we go all and originally that was the hashtag for finding Q shit and the best edits of uh Trump armor with a burning sword and fucking angel wings on his back but then they
Starting point is 00:49:14 edited it down to add worldwide cause twitter got on that and then the G won and all the variants within but that's how you had to find it but it was there it was certainly there yes um find like seeing
Starting point is 00:49:30 seeing the rabbit hole in its truest form and the depths that you thought were infinite but they're not that infinite really they're not it's not that it goes so deep that you can't see the bottom it's more
Starting point is 00:49:46 like um area 5 2 in demon souls where it's just like ankle deep but it sucks for a long period of time it's really it's wide
Starting point is 00:50:02 it's wide as fuck but it's ankle deep it's the fucking valley of defilement dude yeah yeah smelly one second I was looking at
Starting point is 00:50:26 I was enjoying myself a new twitter account earlier that is a compilation of people finding out that they're on the no fly list oh no fly twitter yes no fly list is a new account on twitter hashtag no fly list for some videos
Starting point is 00:50:44 oh it's it's uh it's some fucking hilarious shit watching a bunch of grown men start like burst into tears cause they're gonna go to jail on that twitter
Starting point is 00:51:00 it also actually there was a network analyst that well alleged network analyst right the discuss that apparently the capital building has its own cell tower oh okay which means that if your cell phone was on your person ping
Starting point is 00:51:16 ping yeah so oops so like everyone's gonna go to jail um um they also have the ability to create mobile there's a thing that allows you to allows them to create a
Starting point is 00:51:32 a mobile false tower that can ping phones in an area to get you and they basically a recent article came out so that's how they found jislam axwell was by doing a false tower ping and then seeing where her phone was
Starting point is 00:51:48 so that shit is like yeah 100% listed in you're like it's all you're on a fucking list somewhere man um but hey it's okay because really you know when you start a revolution
Starting point is 00:52:04 and a little bit of pepper spray gets in your eye the revolutions cancelled you know what I gotta say though hold up you know what can you hold it for a second I'm just gonna get up get something to drink there was a really great tweet oh one second
Starting point is 00:52:22 there was a really great tweet that popped up that I found to be um again alongside this no fly list stuff interesting where there were basically describing folks decided to get on a plane
Starting point is 00:52:38 and go over to the capital during the you know what should have taken half an hour to sort out all the electoral votes and then ideally stop it and perhaps even in the process upset the entire thing
Starting point is 00:52:54 possibly install their own solution whatever the conclusion was to be but folks thought they were gonna go in do that change history and then get back on the plane on Sunday and get get back home to go back to work
Starting point is 00:53:10 you're gonna fly down to Washington change history and come back home in time to catch Monday night football I would like to role play a conversation that I'm going to imagine
Starting point is 00:53:26 happen at least 500 times today with you woolly I'll start you'll be playing the role of my boss I'm calling in boop boop boop boop boop hey woolly
Starting point is 00:53:42 yeah I know it's Monday and I know it's around 3pm I'm really not gonna be able to make it today I'm stuck somewhere oh that sucks sorry to hear what what happened I can't go into it I'm just stuck in DC DC that's
Starting point is 00:53:58 really far yeah no I was um flights are cancelled whatever I can't you know I don't know when I'm gonna be able to come back to work flights are cancelled you say
Starting point is 00:54:14 yeah they're cancelled they're very cancelled so what do I do about your shift no flights what do I do about your shift um I'm um tell you what I'll leave
Starting point is 00:54:30 I'm getting a lot of static I'm gonna have to call you back I will make a permanent opening in your shift how about that getting a lot of static big big static yeah yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:54:48 but that segues perfectly into what I was gonna say before I got the drink which is there is good news for everyone and I do say everyone because like by the way I actually really like our American friends and our American audience well yeah I very much like at least the very least one American
Starting point is 00:55:04 very much I hope so just got really nice rack but anyway these these uh ne'er-do-wells I gotta say
Starting point is 00:55:22 I know a little bit of history you read up on the rise of fascism and communism and all these states right this one is slightly different because boy are they not sending their best and brightest hmm
Starting point is 00:55:40 hmm get into the building get into the seat of government get into and thought the speaker of the house's office with an unsecured computer
Starting point is 00:55:58 what to do I'll take a photo for twitter alright I'm good selfies bro you stay between the velvet ropes as you march through and then you get there and then you're like hey we got the number
Starting point is 00:56:14 live stream the actual out of all of it I have to say maybe it's my personality maybe I'm focusing on the wrong thing but I look at this and I go these are actually the dumbest mother fuckers to ever
Starting point is 00:56:30 enact any attempt at shit literally standing I would on the podium I would argue taking fucking promo pictures and then leaving before doing any yeah and there's video where they're like
Starting point is 00:56:46 hey man we got all night and we got till tomorrow to figure it out so don't worry we'll figure out what we're gonna do set somebody inside right but here's the problem though like um there's a there's that meme image of I forgot who it was
Starting point is 00:57:02 or just like you now you look at that and tell me that's not a Psyop where you kind of have that right you have this ridiculous like group people taking their pictures and those are the selfies and videos and streams that hit
Starting point is 00:57:18 the internet first where you kind of saw all of that wacky shit and then you see again that other officer that like let everyone up the stairs and then faked the direction towards the speakers house and then rather towards the senate and then back or whatever
Starting point is 00:57:34 but like alongside all that goofy shit that you saw there was also dude hopping seats with restraining fucking um zip ties in his hands
Starting point is 00:57:50 with a gun on his fucking you know holster now there was also dude who got hit in the head with a fire extinguisher and died that was a cop then there was a other cop who was crushed between a door
Starting point is 00:58:06 as some 50 to 100 people leave hoad on each other's backs to try and crack past where the barricade was not realizing they were like crushing a human being and like at some point
Starting point is 00:58:22 they basically stop I would say two or three more heaves before they like just split the dude a brutal fucking crazy video of that and then again I go back to the fact that there was a van and explosives that were found
Starting point is 00:58:38 so all in all there's a wild crazy thing where you had both this viking taking his selfie and literal explosives there and I would say that the literal explosives and guns and zip ties
Starting point is 00:58:54 were more so the reason why uh the people in the chamber had to hide beneath their chairs and put on gas masks now to be fair woolly in fact there were two Mr. zip ties just got arrested
Starting point is 00:59:10 and and according to them they were not in fact wandering around a government building with zip ties and a handgun to take hostages and kill people they actually found those zip ties
Starting point is 00:59:26 on the ground and picked them up so that other bad people could not use them that is how fortunate and wise of them to do that selfless they are
Starting point is 00:59:42 true heroes and they explained this while in custody to some people that I'm sure took them very serious there was also the cell of people that were specifically there chanting find Mike Pence
Starting point is 00:59:58 and uh so what you have in this gathering is truly the marketplace of ideas because some people were pushing in to get that selfie with the dude in the front and others
Starting point is 01:00:14 were there to get on Pelosi's phone and then yet others were there with the fucking weapons so it was all a mixture of intentions um to which the response
Starting point is 01:00:30 and going back to the forums and such was there were some people that were like they should have got in and nailed a list of signatures to the door and protest and then left you know and it's like yeah that
Starting point is 01:00:46 if that's what you wanted to accomplish I mean that works fine if you want to create Protestantism in like 800 years but unfortunately that was five bodies ago you know so you just can't like anyway
Starting point is 01:01:02 it gets to to a point where as I was describing that pathway into magical thinking right you see people who either embrace magical thinking or then those who are like
Starting point is 01:01:18 um what can I salvage here I have a check mark it's unlisted as a member of the government how do I salvage the situation what can I do and then that's where you see the
Starting point is 01:01:34 everything was awful that was a terrible idea even though that same day I went down there and continued to push the agenda but hey yeah there's a lot of good this use on this but hey now would be a great time
Starting point is 01:01:52 for that unity that you guys were talking about a minute ago and just there's infinite this use in the form of like hey remember when you were like not tied to any of this and you were telling
Starting point is 01:02:08 the truth about what you thought of your opposition when you were trying to become president yourself remember what you said about Trump when you were trying to be the candidate and then you basically I can't hear you
Starting point is 01:02:24 over my own call to trial by combat maybe it's because I'm far away maybe it's because I'm associated maybe it's because I'm a psychopath but all I can think of is like the hilarious fucking cringe out of all this shit like a fucking what
Starting point is 01:02:48 80 year old fucking dumbass lawyer combat like oh cool let's get the dueling swords out bitch that would be sick um cling on warblade by choice yeah get a bat left out yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:03:04 anyway alright well um hey well best of luck to all of our pals down in the US I hope you didn't find it too condescending to have the Canadians oh it definitely was but it's it's fucking
Starting point is 01:03:20 crazy right yeah it is pretty crazy I was talking to somebody earlier this morning who needs American TV when you have America on TV well reality is the most interesting form of fiction currently running by a like
Starting point is 01:03:36 there's nothing better than anyone's writing right now than like literally the history that we are watching um but yes and I also bid a adieu farewell and um all the best to
Starting point is 01:03:52 the many who have hit their breaking point with this discussion topic being brought up and with our decision to not necessarily eggshell around it and I hope you find yourself some more interesting things to listen to in the future I'm sorry that your opinions
Starting point is 01:04:08 don't allow you to hear things you disagree with and be entertained it's it's it's funny because and as content creators is funny a friend of ours actually
Starting point is 01:04:24 said how come people don't use the term artist anymore is that too pretentious is that why they use content creator I'm like oh my god I have met plenty of content creators that will use that term in the snobbyist way worse than artist or whatever but anyway as content creators
Starting point is 01:04:40 or personally as a content creator I don't like to talk about politics I don't think it's particularly fun or engaging and I don't think a lot of people uh come to this podcast no that's not that's not the way they show up my stream and I'll tell you what I certainly didn't to talk shit
Starting point is 01:04:56 about such and such candidate or such and such policy I don't think I'm particularly well educated on that either but on the other hand are you seeing this shit holy fuck wow you seeing this
Starting point is 01:05:14 jesus christ that's what I have to say about the that's about it that's correct that pretty much sums it up yeah you know and like dare I say that like I want
Starting point is 01:05:32 to admit like here's the thing is I want to imagine that imagine like let's say we're talking about whatever the fuck docket says ever crisis has been announced right so let's say we're talking let's say we we start
Starting point is 01:05:48 up and then we start talking about ever crisis and we're discussing what the implications of that could be in the background you should be hearing that yell like of the sound of someone watching a tv like in the room right over
Starting point is 01:06:04 there's this old holy fuck whoa you know and just it's like no no we're talking about the new video game nevermind that so I was like I was streaming I was streaming
Starting point is 01:06:20 I was streaming I was streaming you were streaming earlier in the day and I was I was streaming later in that night and there was the moment where I went live as I went live it seemed to be the start
Starting point is 01:06:36 of the calming down process right but it was extraordinarily possible that I could be live and at 8 29 p.m on a Tuesday while I'm playing my Star Wars game
Starting point is 01:06:52 somebody in the chat goes X is dead or a nuke just blew up like fucking whatever right could have been anything and you you're not gonna fucking tell me
Starting point is 01:07:08 that I'm supposed to sit there and see that shit pop off in my chat and be like you guys need to hit emote only mode okay so while you sure got a lot of dark side points for this this fucking dancing quest with the the twi leg huh
Starting point is 01:07:24 oh the swoop racing coming out now oh look at the swoop go in conclusion woo fast in conclusion brown face not that bad
Starting point is 01:07:50 you know we could we could have another let's give he can have a couple more he's got at least eight other brown faces in him before it starts approaching
Starting point is 01:08:08 concerned territory let's give them one of ours there's a problem most Americans don't know about Canada because Americans don't know about Canada that's the main problem that's the reason but there is a legitimate problem
Starting point is 01:08:24 that a lot of things that happen in Canadian discourse and politics have where we'll be talking about something such as the fact that our prime minister is a recreational black and brown
Starting point is 01:08:40 facer serial black and brown facer habitual loves it right and you'll go I don't know about that guy I don't know about that that seems fucked up
Starting point is 01:08:58 right and even from me even from you woolly there is a time when you look at that shit and you just
Starting point is 01:09:14 turn your gaze south at least at least we're not doing it like the fucking Americans are doing it and then you just stop having the conversation I would have our boy
Starting point is 01:09:32 rock brown for the rest of his term however long that may be like in Parliament permanently standing up in the house in all of it
Starting point is 01:09:48 I want to see it against his will I would have that I would take that in a heartbeat the true ever brown yeah in retrospect in comparison not that bad
Starting point is 01:10:06 here's an interview with the lady prime minister Sophie about how she applies the prime minister's makeup in the morning Parliament is really having those rousing moments and rousing in a stances and
Starting point is 01:10:22 loud outbursts as the Tories and the NDP get on about their business but hey man while we're on the topic kind of how are you enjoying this fucking curfew
Starting point is 01:10:40 uh shit sucks dog so a lot of you folks don't know but Quebec due to the nonstop infinite climax that is our rising Covid numbers
Starting point is 01:10:56 the Quebec government has said alright we asked you to stay home you didn't stay home for shit you're all assholes so you're getting a full blown for realsy ass curfew with a shit zillion of rules
Starting point is 01:11:12 one of which however is that dog owners may take their dogs for walks that's right dog owners can't take their dogs for walks and no and it doesn't matter
Starting point is 01:11:30 if you're walking your husband on a leash and tell the police that it is in fact okay they will still find you $3,000 if you're in the west end you can go I think it's like up to three kilometers
Starting point is 01:11:46 or something whatever the radius is but like you can walk your dog at which point then I did not see it for myself but I was told that Kijiji immediately had dog owners renting their dogs out
Starting point is 01:12:02 for walking to nearby people who would want to borrow one if need be also shout outs to the footage of LaVal come 8pm
Starting point is 01:12:18 where someone broadcast a purge siren in the streets to signify the curfew being on there's nothing to let you know that you're not supposed to go outside like the fucking
Starting point is 01:12:34 death whale of the purge siren good stuff so here's a fun one so as you are well aware my wonderful and beautiful significant other, Peach Saliva has a back made out of tender and string
Starting point is 01:12:50 and what is a sick child's wish um and thus needs to be medicated at times so that she does not die from the back of pain well we ran out of those pills so she had to go to the pharmacy
Starting point is 01:13:06 to get more pills now going to the pharmacy is a a okay breaking curfew thing you are totally allowed to drive to a local pharmacy and get your medicine as the pharmacies are still open
Starting point is 01:13:22 well this led to the discovery oh man taking this curfew fucking for real seriously cops followed her the entire trip both ways
Starting point is 01:13:38 and as you would pass car after car after car being ticked and being stopped at the side of the road people getting wow okay see uh right before this happened
Starting point is 01:13:54 here my mom called me from Grenada and told me about their curfew did I already talk about this I think I already did I don't remember this she told me about her curfew because Grenada went into lockdown
Starting point is 01:14:10 um and uh it was like Grenada was fine they were basically COVID free but then there was a single resort that had people that were allowed
Starting point is 01:14:26 to come in without being tested because the people on the resort were not supposed to be allowed to leave the resort but the people who would come in they had this bullshit system where they were like no one who were taking these cruises
Starting point is 01:14:42 or going on these trips wanted to deal with the testing and furthermore the staff that was then enacting COVID measures people were customers were complaining about the fact that the staff was being so distant and was being cold
Starting point is 01:14:58 and yeah right so then the fucking resort uh reverses those measures and then the staff gets infected and then retrigger a wave in Grenada
Starting point is 01:15:14 through this one stupid fucking resort because of shitty customers and like if your government allows that to happen what the fuck are you doing anyway all that leads to dude I don't know about this Quebec curfew there's no fucking there's no data that says
Starting point is 01:15:30 that fucking limiting the times people can be out does shit um like it seems like a fucking knee jerk ass reaction yeah so but just all that to say uh well one fuck saddles resorts in the islands in the Caribbean if you happen
Starting point is 01:15:46 yes dude yes if you happen to be going to Barbados Trinidad Grenada there's I believe there's one on Martinique as well but I'm not 100% anyway fuck sandals but second yeah that they got their curfew on which was
Starting point is 01:16:02 the cop cars slowly rolling through the streets in every neighborhood just to you know pumping pumping the gas very slowly and like or less walking a guard
Starting point is 01:16:18 path throughout the entire island you know but I haven't looked outside to see what it's like out here for us but yeah I think it fucking sucks and I think it's it's stupid because it's like again it's that thing of like oh yes
Starting point is 01:16:34 so you know like COVID clearly is it comes out at night mostly what no yeah I don't know you know the Quebec government I mean here's some local politics
Starting point is 01:16:50 I don't think the Quebec government's doing a very good job with the COVID thing I don't think this curfew is gonna actually do much to curb the fact that I don't think they're doing a very good job with the COVID thing I mean ultimately they did pretty much
Starting point is 01:17:06 say that like hey people that are doing their part are doing their part but people that are not doing their part are the reason why we got to put this in place yeah so anyway I mean
Starting point is 01:17:22 it appears to be that for a lot of first world countries that have a lot of folks that have never gone through serious ass hardship you hit a certain amount of months during of hey fucking chill out don't do that
Starting point is 01:17:38 and then they just all decide to give up you know there was a little like there was a moment looking down my street and watching people have parties on my street just like there was a moment when I thought that
Starting point is 01:17:56 like I went oh fuck North America is about to become like Asia and we're gonna all be that like mask wearing culture from here on out you know there wasn't there was well yeah
Starting point is 01:18:12 but like and there was a moment where it seemed like that was about to happen and then the confusing messaging occurred and then it had time to get distilled into the purest
Starting point is 01:18:28 political forms and now we have this god awful version of events but I kind of was one the moment when it first started I was like damn I guess yeah that whole thing of like oh you feeling a little
Starting point is 01:18:44 a little under the weather throw a mask on and go about your business in that method and it seems like now it's like yeah that is only that is a permanent fixture but only with a percentage of the population it is quite interesting
Starting point is 01:19:04 to see the effect that champion the championing of individuality versus the championing of harmony creates when it comes to these types of moments in history you know where the cultural belief 100% effects
Starting point is 01:19:24 how the crisis is handled ideology becomes like physically manifest and and just hit me with that needle gaming podcast turns
Starting point is 01:19:44 political anyway anything going on gaming podcast yeah political it's life it's literally just life it's what your lives are it's what my life is
Starting point is 01:20:06 it's what your life is I saw something that I wouldn't say that it made it click but it gave me a perfect reason to like actually say it out loud which was if you're going to pretend that none of this shit is happening
Starting point is 01:20:22 who are you actually making it easier on right when COVID happened I originally thought that I should not talk about COVID during my streams
Starting point is 01:20:38 because people are fucking stressed out enough about I was gonna say shit and that they would want to not hear about that crap yeah I was gonna say a stream they're going way more valid than like person who gets upset at
Starting point is 01:20:54 at your take is people who are just like oh god I need to reprieve from that right but this is a good non-political version of this that will work better as an example right and I'm like well okay I'm gonna keep my
Starting point is 01:21:12 my stream clean of the COVID thing and then people will be able to come to it to relax and it turns out that doesn't relax anyone that doesn't make anybody feel any better because all anybody talking that first fucking
Starting point is 01:21:30 three weeks in my chat was COVID and how fucking terrified of COVID they were here's so who the fuck am I helping by not pretending it didn't happen here's a telling moment have you had that fit have you had a day where you were streaming
Starting point is 01:21:46 and you're doing your business and like you're just like in your head you're like I can't wait to get off and to get off stream and check the news updates and find out what the fuck is going on have you had that moment
Starting point is 01:22:02 I had that moment uh I had that moment tonight exactly right and that I had that moment where I saw somebody who is a long time viewer of my stream go dude you gotta get on Twitter right now somebody
Starting point is 01:22:18 is benefiting yeah and I and I just like saw that and my eyes went real big and I'm like I gotta get on Twitter so it's just like it's just it's
Starting point is 01:22:36 it cannot be circumvented it is it is taking up the entire hallway you know um but that's that's pretty much I mean whatever like there's a million there's a million
Starting point is 01:22:52 more takes in the gas tank but that's all I got on for now at the very least but uh what else what's uh what's going on what's going on with your week beyond this beyond beyond beyond this
Starting point is 01:23:10 I would like everyone to tell Twitter sorry twitch the dog champ is the best pog champ of all and that dog champ should be used as a pog champ of the day
Starting point is 01:23:26 in the near future uh I disagree with the first part but I agree with the second dog champ is great yeah nothing wrong with that but quite frankly uh the original and only
Starting point is 01:23:46 hype emotes that there ever should have been would have been IFC yipes from from the jump it should have been yipes but uh it is it is one of those things though where like in the moment that that goes down where I'm just like you know
Starting point is 01:24:02 like it is definitely the lowest possible priority right now to you to be talking about what the new pog champ should be it couldn't be any less important but um if we're if it's gonna get brought up and if it's gonna be
Starting point is 01:24:18 discussed it has always been yipes mantle to claim I mean there's no one that represents the hype more a crystallized hyper specific instance of this couldn't be less
Starting point is 01:24:34 important think about what we're gonna talk about in the first half of this podcast versus what we're gonna talk about in the second half of this podcast yeah in terms of actual lifetime value
Starting point is 01:24:50 now I think it was pretty funny because ultra David was out there uh hours prior gone you guys should just fucking unfollow Gootex right now and I was like yeah ultra David
Starting point is 01:25:06 it's got a point he's got a point and then everyone agreed it was like what did Gootex see in the future it's the part that caused this change all the side by
Starting point is 01:25:24 side pictures are always pretty rough when it's like like the like oh the but a few years ago the color was still there you know there was some rows in the cheeks and things looked livelier and now there's just
Starting point is 01:25:40 that sort of look to it um yeah no I don't know man I think um I don't know I think I think for the most part it might not necessarily represent a change that occurred as much as it was just like
Starting point is 01:25:56 when you're talking about fighting game shit you're not necessarily going into the rest of your your views on things because you're just talking fighting games and you know and then at some point you start pushing uh those quieter ideas up to the front
Starting point is 01:26:18 I just I just had this this image it's the stupidest image of all it's future Gootex with the outfit in the glasses in front of his computer
Starting point is 01:26:34 sitting with a notepad open and it's just a single all caps bolded question at the top of a notepad which is can
Starting point is 01:26:50 blame covid hoax on e-sports hmm yeah I wish I had some further insight I don't I not much I can say you know but uh
Starting point is 01:27:14 shits shits wild shit is wild um I got none all right so what how did I do or play this week that uh was not in any way related to
Starting point is 01:27:36 terrorism I played coter 2 and bao 2 this week you are obviously very recently familiar coter 2 I went and added some extra mods uh that I don't think
Starting point is 01:27:54 you used but they were all texture mods like nothing of nothing of import right all just like shine so because they have those upscaled fucking yeah like the the I like I think like I said to you the the main texture mods I used were improved space and improved lightsabers um
Starting point is 01:28:10 yeah space in particular all the text the lightsaber is like a nice touch and it makes the colors true and and and yeah it's not that big of a deal it's just a nice little but the space one is massive the original look of the stars in
Starting point is 01:28:26 in around the ships on the outside is some of the crappiest skybox you've ever seen it's garbage yeah so I uh I got that one and then I got the people made those like use the AI to upscale the the
Starting point is 01:28:42 fucking original textures 4k kind of thing and I installed that and I had this moment this great moment where you look at it and you're like it does this even work did it did the texture is these the new textures or is this the old textures
Starting point is 01:28:58 um because you're doing the the prologue in the ebb and hawk and I'm looking at like that's probably the new one that looks pretty good right and then I went outside to do the mines on top of the ebb and hawk and that part was not covered by the mod
Starting point is 01:29:14 I got so I went out there looked and was like oh yeah no they totally yeah the mod worked because that's some oh man
Starting point is 01:29:30 old games in many cases actually look way worse than you remember like just get up close to a texture and it's just like a muddy pile of shit uh you look you look that old you know I'm trying
Starting point is 01:29:46 I'm trying to remember what there was an ebb there was a really strong example of like this blurry texture is way too close to the camera right now but I don't remember what it was it might have been
Starting point is 01:30:02 like a monster we fought but ah it was it was yeah oh yeah okay yeah the monsters because the monsters are made small and then a lot of them are embiggened and then it just stretches and it's just like oh fucking hell oh don't look at this but I've been playing the coder
Starting point is 01:30:18 too and I've been playing it I've been attempting you you're very bizarre way of going through that game has made this difficult but I am attempting to why anti-woolly it oh well because you did your light side later okay well
Starting point is 01:30:34 the end of your sentence answered the first part because I was like why did what I do create any problems for you whatsoever because I wanted to do it as you're going you're going the opposite it would be dual valid so are
Starting point is 01:30:50 you going you're going light side female gun no dark side lady just made a Darth Karen because I thought that was funny because one of the blonde blonde women looks the Karen okay and
Starting point is 01:31:06 you man there's a lot of dark side shit in that you can get to fucking like horrible purple skin before you fucking get to teach okay but what you can you can fucking what version dark side are you
Starting point is 01:31:22 going though are you going every option to the maximum okay see that's not as satisfying though right the orphans you think that you think that isn't it better to help along the way and then fuck them over
Starting point is 01:31:38 because it the game lets you put people along depending on particular and fuck up the last second like that always seems to be the worst one to go there are a couple that yes but man there's some just fucking outrageous like
Starting point is 01:31:54 if you so one of the great things about code or two dark later Kraya now you've done through your whole LP is with Kraya and Kraya has this great way she has her own personal philosophy and she constantly makes fun of the player call some stupid if they engage
Starting point is 01:32:10 and things outside that personal philosophy playing a unrepentant psycho hobo murderous dark side character that Kraya fucking hates
Starting point is 01:32:26 is like a legitimately amazing way to play that game and you got all your party members to like you right uh yeah okay turns out if you get their influence low enough
Starting point is 01:32:42 you still unlock their Jedi classes so here's how it works I did not know about the system until I fuck that guy I'm becoming a Jedi despite him so if you say you're a good person
Starting point is 01:32:58 and you make Atten really like you and Atten will tend towards the light and become a Jedi right but if you are a good person and make Atten hate your guts enough
Starting point is 01:33:14 he will become a Sith out of yeah okay yeah yeah and it goes the other way as well that's interesting so I am creating a party of a team of people that hate my shit
Starting point is 01:33:30 hate my guts and will hate everything that I do but continue to be walking batteries so who cares but continue to be walking out with me just listening to Craya just constantly be like I'm so sick and tired of you shooting
Starting point is 01:33:46 everyone and your options are I love it I love it it's fantastic it is the fact that you have the freedom to do that that's a marvel you are no better than crusty boy and
Starting point is 01:34:02 angry boy but dude crusty crusty and hungry boy rather are so incredible like there are four maybe what the fuck are you doing
Starting point is 01:34:18 get out of there here sorry the dog is trying to fucking bite my dick excuse me here here is the last of your tree get out of my face crusty crusty and hungry boy crusty boy
Starting point is 01:34:34 hungry boy cowl girl and old lady fist are fucking all incredible they're all the best these are like my favorite star wars characters no they there's some of the strongest
Starting point is 01:34:52 ever I also played a there's a fan made star wars fighting game called force combat that I played this week and in looking at that there's a roster that includes
Starting point is 01:35:08 Darth Malgus from the old republic and I started basically going down a wiki hole and I started reading about what essentially what cotor sets up
Starting point is 01:35:24 and like and then what it kind of get what it expanded into and like there's a whole like early series about like what the ricotta were like when they were around and shit so all of this is right on
Starting point is 01:35:40 on the mark for like yeah what I was digging up this week too as you as you're touching on it and I don't know whether or not people like loved or hated all of this early material but just it was I was able to
Starting point is 01:35:56 scratch some itches after Mandalorian season 2 and kind of like go like oh yeah let me just fucking check out some star wars stuff and then I'm gonna get my fill and then I'm gonna back back out what did you um what did you
Starting point is 01:36:14 do in the first verbal boss battle or are you there yet against against you oh I haven't got there yet so one of the biggest flaws of that game
Starting point is 01:36:30 like kind of astonishingly is that you don't get to stretch your legs for like fucking 12 hours like it's it's fucking crazy you're on paragus for a while it's like a long section paragus yeah and paragus is terrible paragus might be
Starting point is 01:36:48 this might be like the worst starter area of any of these types of but I needed it for bearings personally I would have I would have been I needed I needed it for bearings and momentum and I would say that
Starting point is 01:37:04 the tutorial planet helps with a new character and a new game even if it's just like you know the same the same actions again oh totally it's just that paragus like
Starting point is 01:37:20 sucks it's like a boring ass fucking mining colony and all the fucking corridors look the same there's nobody to talk to I like the bar like in paragus there's the there's the the little isn't there a bar
Starting point is 01:37:46 what are you talking about talking about cotour too oh was it you're thinking of telos you're thinking of telos with the bar that has the the girl that you can sell in slavery okay whoops paragus is the mining fucking place you
Starting point is 01:38:04 waved up in and the only person you could talk to okay okay so yes yes yes yes it is pretty barren but that HK conversation is a thing of beauty it's a fucking wonderful conversation with HK but yeah that game takes too long
Starting point is 01:38:24 straight up takes too long like I'm like oh yeah I'll be able to get HK when I get to the galaxy map and then I'll get my lightsaber and I'm like I streamed it twice I still I'm still not off fucking telos I can't believe it and one of those streams is like seven hours long
Starting point is 01:38:40 it's ridiculous um played some Beo2 hindsight has given me a very bizarre feeling about Beo2 you talked about it last week a bit and I feel really glad that in the
Starting point is 01:38:58 mean in between then and now I watched one of Matthew Matosis' micro videos who summed up exactly the perfect way that I would agree with to describe Beo2 Beo2 is less bad
Starting point is 01:39:14 than Beo1 but it is also less good so Beo1's story and presentation are fucking terrible like the story in Beo1 is like like the worst
Starting point is 01:39:32 it's I've beaten that game four or five times I'm still not super clear what is going on it's especially when with the time travel element that doesn't seem to go anywhere like
Starting point is 01:39:48 time travel so that you could see yourself but then you still ended up in the lake but if you ended up in the lake same thing I said last week benefit of the doubt because I haven't touched it in a while I'd have to do a revisit but I didn't have this negativity towards it that you're having like I
Starting point is 01:40:04 I enjoyed it the ones the last time you played a while ago that's what I'm saying yeah so Beo1 like the color palettes really really bland right Beo2 has like a huge improvement on like the look of the game
Starting point is 01:40:20 and Beo2's spectacle is like way bigger and better in almost every way like the lumen sage is like incredible he's super awesome and the story is a little more straightforward and they actually like kind of fix
Starting point is 01:40:36 Beo1 story in Beo2's story I don't know if you remember that like they spend a significant amount of time like improving Beo1 story by like giving a little bit more about the eyes and shit about the eyes and what happened to Boulder
Starting point is 01:40:52 and stuff like that but then there are are some gameplay stuff that is just like not as good as Beo1 like I was talking to some people like I prefer Beo1 I'm like really because Beo2 is so much smoother and the weapons are so much more unique
Starting point is 01:41:08 and there were a couple general like you know specific nitpicks but the number one was yeah but umber and climax is completely busted and after playing through a couple chapters and doing a bunch of the tag climax missions off stream
Starting point is 01:41:24 like you've got stuff like the heal stomp and like Akira's go and torture attacks right and those all use magic but you'd have to be fucking stupid to use any of that shit when umber and climax is a hundred times
Starting point is 01:41:40 better and lasts yeah you said this last week too I remember and most of these points but uh we're still kind of arguing though like jockeying for position on the Mount Olympus above all other action games
Starting point is 01:41:56 because these games are still among the greatest that are out there in the genre right we talking about character action in general or like we comparing them to their contemporaries or all action well because if we compare them to all
Starting point is 01:42:16 action games well character action is that weird like descriptor that gets thrown in that like where we kind of talk about pretty much just like hey it's all the games we like in a way cause like I'm coming from the comparison
Starting point is 01:42:32 of I went through fucking LDK and DMD with Virgil last month yep as a point of comparison but I'm saying more so that like both of those
Starting point is 01:42:48 are you know leaps and bounds ahead of like epic action games that aren't necessarily like going that route with combat oh totally yeah but like I I don't even like if we're talking about like
Starting point is 01:43:04 fucking nano breaker and fucking chaos Legion like I don't even give a shit like who gives a fuck um like out of all of them like the ones that I would consider I'm talking about the dummy cry series like real character action games like ninja guide and dummy cry and
Starting point is 01:43:20 and bio and all that stuff you know the good one I know it's like when you cause you know what it's to say like we're having you know when you have the conversation where you're like when you're talking to people that play live and breathe fighters that talk
Starting point is 01:43:36 about like how shit a particular one is in one way where it's like okay but you're talking from the point of view of someone who's super close to the franchise right oh yeah this is the top 10 worst games of the year uh problem where you go
Starting point is 01:43:52 the worst game of the year for 20 what I was cyberpunk and you're like really it wasn't this dog shit unity asset flip that costs two dollars on steam or or sure that puts a virus on your or even just being like man street fighter
Starting point is 01:44:08 alpha one is some busted dumb bullshit it's like yeah yeah but street fighter alpha it's like it's still fucking incredible by comparison to you know pull some shit out fucking best of best you know like
Starting point is 01:44:24 it it's yeah but like my point is that the more I go into it I feel like it hasn't aged nearly as well as this interesting I have a feeling I'll disagree with you when I revisit it but I'll I'll I can't say much until I do like metal gear rising aged better I believe
Starting point is 01:44:42 a lot better actually I am just fucking great but yeah so I played those two and I checked out god I hope you played this I check oh no I closed the thing I was looking at
Starting point is 01:44:58 I checked out the monster hunter rise demo on the Nintendo I have I've been hearing about it but I haven't done I haven't I didn't dive in I was doing some other stuff but I do want to
Starting point is 01:45:14 I'm gonna miss the demo and just grab it when it drops yeah so like monster it's it's this weird thing where Monster Hunter will announce hey we're adding the the bug mechanic where you
Starting point is 01:45:32 can slingshot yourself or grapple or whatever right and they announced this and that and this and that and they have all these little announcements but I feel like it doesn't like I didn't I can't really internalize
Starting point is 01:45:48 any of those changes until I actually touch them until I actually hit the buttons and see how it interacts with the various instances of fighting a monster and and as somebody who has played the series
Starting point is 01:46:04 casually at two then big at 3u big it for you generations and then world this is as big of a jump forward from
Starting point is 01:46:20 world as world was from generation so this is where let me let me bring it up because this is a question that we got I'll bring up an early letter time question here but John Nellius says
Starting point is 01:46:36 how do you feel about long running series adopting new mechanics the easy answer is as long as it's fun there's no issue but is there a point where new ideas come at the cost of the series becoming unrecognizable monster hunter rise is definitely the most dramatic shift the series has had and the new emphasis
Starting point is 01:46:52 on fast aerial combat it could almost pass as an off brand clone when all is working it's enjoyable but it does kind of feel like I'm moving on from a simpler slower time and then he says makes me think of the cancelled ideas ono had for street fighter
Starting point is 01:47:08 and yeah would it concern you seeing these risks if it pushes the series in a different direction do you have examples that come to mind right so like this is precisely what someone was bringing up so I have a lot
Starting point is 01:47:24 to say about that and that's a great way to lead in so the first of which I was talking with mom about this on twitter is that it is very good for monster hunter to become unrecognizable
Starting point is 01:47:40 because that first game is trash so you've maintained have you ever touched monster hunter no but I've heard you scream about it ad nauseam fucking use the analog stick to fucking use your one move it's terrible
Starting point is 01:47:58 and two like I know you know this because you had a roommate who was in the process of destroying their life with the claw the fucking psp claw
Starting point is 01:48:14 right it was the third game that finally gave that thing real controls couldn't you eventually every single game couldn't you eventually plug a dual shock into the last generation or am I just
Starting point is 01:48:30 crazy then the last generation of psp have a video out and allow you to connect a controller to it yes and you could bullshit an analog solution but that was not the way
Starting point is 01:48:50 most people played it in fact second g never got released for real it was a translation patch that you had to use okay so it's real boomer shit because I remember when you started playing monster hunter world
Starting point is 01:49:08 you're like I don't know don't know about this this seems kind of clunky and I was like sitting there rocking in my chair trying not to like scream with spittle flying off like you don't you just don't know man you used to be so fucked up well up the street both ways
Starting point is 01:49:24 and this is an improvement like you couldn't yes it's always an improvement and like the series every game is is like identical to the last one in a bunch of ways like
Starting point is 01:49:40 but adds 20% new stuff but every game is changing 20% like that 20% that they change is different every right so with world it was like the visuals and the general like layout every time someone
Starting point is 01:49:56 with the following makes a hey do you guys remember reboot thread there's always infinite people in the comments going wow this looks like dog shit and it's just like yeah
Starting point is 01:50:12 it's just how can I it's like don't know how bad it used to be to play monster hunter when you didn't have real camera controls stop if only you
Starting point is 01:50:28 so and to specifically mention forget the person's name but it was the aerial combat makes it look like a different series right
Starting point is 01:50:44 and which my legend was already kind of doing in some of those crazy videos so that that's not true so what happened was is there is a very clear path here
Starting point is 01:51:00 step one is monster hunter three says we want to go on a new axis so that new axis is going to be swimming and swimming was very bad and terrible and should never been put into the game
Starting point is 01:51:16 ever it was very not good and so then four came out and they said okay we still want to go on a new axis so what are we going to do we'll make all the fucking
Starting point is 01:51:32 is swimming ever worth it ever when is swimming fun yeah do what you got to do I'm just thinking about how swimming was inserted into doom and how shit the swimming in doom eternal was um
Starting point is 01:51:48 I mean fuck swimming in metal gear obviously like no uh swimming swimming in Mario when you get a shell is fine when you don't have a shell it sucks yeah it's
Starting point is 01:52:04 swimming's terrible in action games specifically um so they're like we want to do a new axis so they make all they put all the steps in the areas because I don't know if you see Majora's Mask true true true Majora's Mask Monster Hunter stages that came out
Starting point is 01:52:20 before four but they were all completely flat planes they were arenas and so they're like okay we'll put a little little jumps and little steps and then you can jump at the monster and hit the monster with your stick and in four they put in the insect lave which is the first
Starting point is 01:52:36 thing that gives you a jump button to work with that mechanic and then after four they did for uh they did uh generations and generations is where every single fucking move got
Starting point is 01:52:52 every single weapon got four different styles with a bunch of super moves on a timer that all did zany fucking shit and one of them was aerial style in which it gave every single weapon a straight up jump button so that you can mount constantly
Starting point is 01:53:08 and it gave uh every single weapon a button that would be a timed dodge that would make you invincible and then run in and they in the sequel they added like an item style and all that and then world comes out and they go okay all those fucking
Starting point is 01:53:24 zany super moves let's take the best ones tone them down and put them into regular move sets right so the sword and shield combo for example or the true charge slash for the great sword
Starting point is 01:53:40 stuff like that that used to be like the domain of like a timed like cool down button press okay now it's been integrated into the move set now we look at they brought a lot of those moves back in terms of the wire
Starting point is 01:53:56 bug shit where you can blow your wire bugs in order to do stuff like a giant jumping aerial slash with a great sword which is the same move from the aerial style from two games ago or you can do a dash forward with dual
Starting point is 01:54:12 blades that makes you invincible and if you get hit during it you'll do the spin attack that you do in the air which is the same move that you would have in the style of add up style to get this sound so all these are always what you're describing sounds like it would be rad
Starting point is 01:54:28 to do sounds like it's fun but they're always they're always set up like they're these are all like the monster hunter series very very rarely does like big revolutionary changes
Starting point is 01:54:44 it's always hey you know that old thing that we did let's just make it so that it's a better version or tweak it or add one extra move to this right so the new biggest fanciest showiest mechanics
Starting point is 01:55:00 in monster hunter rise are you can use a wire bug to fucking like spider-man off the sky kind of shit and do huge wall runs and you can do super moves using them like everybody has
Starting point is 01:55:16 at least two new moves that are like jumps or dashes or charges or projectiles or I mean I remember when I was fucking around with it in world and I was like oh this weapon turns you into some Yoshi Mitsu bullshit floating and twisting
Starting point is 01:55:32 and just like Yuan Wu Ping out of nowhere so I guess that and then third you have a situation where possibly but what can we do nothing keep it going
Starting point is 01:55:50 third you have a situation where now you can ride monsters like like control rollable ride them and you can use their move sets so what that means is that well you remember you would do like a jumping attack
Starting point is 01:56:06 and you'd hit them twice and then you'd jump on their back and you'd stab them 35 times with a tiny little knife and then they would fall down and they would then be like free to beat downs for 45 seconds
Starting point is 01:56:22 in a minute right so that was something they added three games ago and it has become part of like the formula for fighting a monster usually want to get like two mounts or three mounts whatever and the insect lave is better at it
Starting point is 01:56:38 and what kind of sucked though is that like the part where you would be on the monsters back and stab it on them sucked it took forever and nobody could do anything right everybody had just kind of
Starting point is 01:56:54 in generations and what wait for it in world because if you hit the monster hard enough that it flinched you'd screw up the mount attempt so everybody stay back and let the guy do the whole thing right and
Starting point is 01:57:10 it was pretty binary it was past fail so now all a lot of the new attacks do mounting damage and they tell you they're doing mounting damage by giving you like a blue exhaust background
Starting point is 01:57:26 on the damage would you two fucking stop that over there Zengi Elmo quit it stop fighting alright so you do lots of blue exhaust damage
Starting point is 01:57:44 monster falls down but now instead of just jumping on their back and wailing on them with a tiny little knife you get to control them there's a whole getting weak or strong attacks so you remember say you remember when like
Starting point is 01:58:00 you'd be fighting a Rathalos and like Diablos would show up and you'd be like oh shit and you would just wait for one to leave or you would just you would dung pod one and make them one right now if you can down one
Starting point is 01:58:16 you can use it to fight the other oh shit okay how much control are you talking like steering significant so you can steer you have a strong and a weak attack and those depend control like for real
Starting point is 01:58:32 if you whoa okay okay so like take for example there's a you can you can fucking control a rathian in the demo you hop on and the light attack is her is her run forward and her heavy attack
Starting point is 01:58:50 is her poison backflip how long do you get to do this for a little while as long as you don't take damage every piece of damage you take decreases so is it still swinging at you no no it's
Starting point is 01:59:06 totally under your control but whatever else is attacking touches you right it'll decrease it you also have a side step like a dash and so when you do say the poison tail backflip with rathian
Starting point is 01:59:22 you can then cancel that into a dash okay if you don't get hit is it longer than the regular mount time yes but every hit of damage
Starting point is 01:59:38 decrease yeah yeah yeah okay so people would be stupid right so then as you beat people up you build up what is essentially a super and you use
Starting point is 01:59:54 it's called a grounded attack and you use it on the monster and it will do a canned series of hits that will knock down the other monster and then you can beat on that guy we were like sorry to cut you off right
Starting point is 02:00:10 yeah by all means would that be where the unique animations between monsters fighting start to come in okay I'll get to that in a second so say you're fighting
Starting point is 02:00:26 what's his name water boy forget his fucking name the water dragon that's not it you knock him down what's that okay Jura
Starting point is 02:00:42 DJ Jurodose you're fighting Mizuzune you're using a rathien to beat a Mizuzune then Mizuzune is on the floor and then everybody else can start beating on Mizuzune but that's great when you have two monsters
Starting point is 02:00:58 right well you might be thinking well how am I supposed to get enough mounting attacks on rathien when rathien just shows up and enters the battle well the loser of a turf war is immediately controllable
Starting point is 02:01:16 so if you let them do it remember diabolos and black diabolos would always fight each other pick up the loser and keep that fucking fight going for as long as you get to mount
Starting point is 02:01:32 yeah so it used to be when monsters would show up and do a turf war you'd be like oh god damn it fuck off yeah yeah yeah yeah but now they show up and they do a turf war and you're like oh that's a free yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 02:01:48 to fight with oh that's brilliant wow isn't that much more interesting than just and when you jump off do they fuck off and okay so what if you're only fighting one monster what is the replacement
Starting point is 02:02:04 and the replacement is is that on x is light attack on a is heavy attack on b is dash and on y is is topple forward
Starting point is 02:02:20 I forget what it's called but it is a forcible dash so what that is is you point your fucking dumbass monster at the wall and you hit y and they will slam their fucking stupid head on that wall and then
Starting point is 02:02:36 in the recovery animation you hit b and it will use a wire bug to dash cancel into a normal state it will roman cancel your monster and then you dash them into the next wall
Starting point is 02:02:52 and then you hit b to roman cancel them again and then you dash them into the next wall and if you get all three for every so they will fall on their ass but instead of being on their ass and completely like you know flailing around for a minute on their side
Starting point is 02:03:10 instead they get up but they are now tethered to the floor with wire bugs so they're still able to use a lot of their moveset but they are actually physically locked in place wow so
Starting point is 02:03:26 mounting does much more direct damage but also beating on them afterwards is not free and that's just the monster thing you can fucking fly in this game like biocom people have already
Starting point is 02:03:44 figured out how to go from the one end of the map to the other without touching the floor you can wall run to get into new areas there's all these buffs everywhere to instigate it there's dog cart now
Starting point is 02:04:00 because you can drift your dogs for dashing because instead of auto bringing you to a new location they're rideable and controllable and you can even attack off of them and jump off of them when you have a game that's nothing but boss fights
Starting point is 02:04:16 you can really iterate the combat mechanics over and over and over again infinitely when you have nothing to worry about on the in between that's a really cool addition what was your weapon
Starting point is 02:04:32 of choice when you got to the end of world I think I think I ended on Lance I went from charge blade
Starting point is 02:04:48 to great sword to Lance so Lance for example let's talk about wire bug moves because you can do the movement stuff one of which is recover out of tech out of hits
Starting point is 02:05:04 on the floor but you have every single weapon has two new moves associated with the wire bugs that take one or two wire bugs the Lance one
Starting point is 02:05:20 is they're fucking great so the Lance one is plant yourself and block a hit and your attack power will go up based off of how strong of it
Starting point is 02:05:36 of course excuse me hey that thing that thing fucking became very useful when shout outs to soul carl teaching me about the aiming
Starting point is 02:05:52 upward stabs and the run the sprint was a lot of fun the second one is you close range stab a knife can I actually be right back in general do what you gotta do I'm gonna have to put somebody in time out
Starting point is 02:06:12 excuse me you were saying I was saying that that cat is a dramatic little bitch because that cat is sitting over there screaming like he's being murdered by his friend the dog but made no effort to move from that spot on the couch
Starting point is 02:06:28 for the past half hour because he's a dramatic bitch anyway what I was saying damn cat shaming is that the Lance moves your attack but the second one which is much more interesting is a super close range stab
Starting point is 02:06:44 right with a knife it looks like and what it does is it tethers you to the monster and what happens is after you are tethered if you hit L left trigger
Starting point is 02:07:00 and B you will do a huge jump directly above the monster and be able to do a dive attack oh my god that sounds rad holy shit okay it becomes like an instant instant air
Starting point is 02:07:16 that just brings you to the monster can you do anything in the air yeah you can stab it counts as mount damage it also taunts the monster it is also the first move ever
Starting point is 02:07:32 in monster hunter that demands aggro from the monster okay I'm thinking of when and they all have that they all have something crazy like that that sounds like when you tether to a titan
Starting point is 02:07:48 in the attack on titan game and like you're kind of like aerial controlling while hooked on to that one spot fuck okay it's not quite that it's not quite that it's
Starting point is 02:08:04 everybody's got something new it's super nuts and they showed off moves in the trailer that you can't do in the demo which means there are more than we currently have available how did it run okay
Starting point is 02:08:20 um it runs it runs like an old fashioned monster hunter game so running on the switch running on the switch so I'd say it's running mostly at 30
Starting point is 02:08:38 to 24-5-ish when it's real real fucky you know like when there's the four of you just climbing into the monster's ass when it's on the floor sure
Starting point is 02:08:56 however what the game is putting out is kind of dramatic like it doesn't have like the poly count and shit like that that world has but the draw distance is like infinite like you could
Starting point is 02:09:12 get to the top of the map and just see where all the monsters are okay although this is it's the same engine right same engine right it's just modified no the mt framework was the old one
Starting point is 02:09:28 and the monster hunter world version of mt framework is probably the worst version of that engine to ever exist this is running on the re engine re okay like everything else and it is world was too old for that
Starting point is 02:09:44 okay it is clearly a way better engine to run these games on if it were to happen to come to the pc or other consoles in a year or so it would
Starting point is 02:10:00 probably run way better than world did even if the assets were the same like the same fidelity as like world or something like that this is a much better engine very much gooder
Starting point is 02:10:18 better overall it's great it's considerably like for you was like the last great classic monster hunter right and then generations
Starting point is 02:10:34 and generations ultimate were like hyper like the marvel of monster hunter i guess you would call it and then world was let's go back to the classic speed kind of and then rise is the hyper again
Starting point is 02:10:50 i'm sure there's probably some folks that are also like happy to have it in their handheld format again i completely empathize with that it's a lot easier to get that game running in a big group
Starting point is 02:11:08 with four switches or four 3ds than it is maybe not now actually but in the normal times mm-hmm and i should not get out of this before i neglect to mention
Starting point is 02:11:24 that the hunting horn has been completely reworded to be a completely different weapon i saw a tweet that was like this fucking rise demo is just propaganda for the hunting horn and i will not have it or something to that effect
Starting point is 02:11:40 so apparently some's got completely in the running for possibly the best weapon now um it's so no weapon in monster hunter history
Starting point is 02:11:56 has gotten a glow up like this one um the hunting horn was good it was always good but it was always very finicky it was always very you had to be super deliberate when you played your songs
Starting point is 02:12:12 you had to be of fuck hunting horn users that kind of existed in the air a little bit no everybody loved hunting horn users just people didn't want to be the hunting horn user everybody appreciates the guy giving you buffs and healing you but i mean you know
Starting point is 02:12:28 now the big change is you remember that you had to use to swing your horn and it would play notes and then after you played notes in a sequence you would hit the button to the song and the song would give you the effect and the effect would be an attack up
Starting point is 02:12:44 or a little heal or something like that now it is play the notes and as soon as the notes line up the song auto plays so in the demo uh
Starting point is 02:13:00 the fucking weekend the fucking axe attack is red and if you just play two reds you get an attack up right so you swing it twice and you get an attack up you fucking hit x and a twice
Starting point is 02:13:16 and your character heals themselves a little bit and everyone around them it's automatic and now when you get all of the notes in your chart and hit like fucking your play button you do this gigantic
Starting point is 02:13:34 nevin style solo riff that plays and hits like a million times okay now why are motherfuckers talking about break dancing because you're doing flips and shit while you're playing the horn like a guitar
Starting point is 02:13:50 uh interesting okay it's fucking crazy super bard and then you build up a super and when you hit your super you plant it in the floor and then spin it and it shoots out sound waves
Starting point is 02:14:08 that hits like ten times for shitsillion damage oh let's break it down yeah it's fucking it's ridiculous cool I'm excited to play
Starting point is 02:14:24 more monster hunter how much is in the demo uh two tutorial missions one that is the basics and one is the monster riding tutorial and then one beginner quest
Starting point is 02:14:40 where you fight one of the new monsters it's like one of the one of the bitch like fucking you know like jagras yeah the jagras equivalent and in that mission there's also an arsaros
Starting point is 02:14:56 you can fight if you want arsaros is like a honey bear kind of thing um and then there is a uh intermediate quest in which you can fight uh mitsu
Starting point is 02:15:12 you can fight rathian is there a training room no but you can just you just fuck off in the tutorial and just not do the tutorial for 50 minutes yeah okay that's what I did the first like hour of my stream
Starting point is 02:15:28 really going into that thing and going into the notes and hitting all the buttons for the weapons um it's so cool that like yeah that sounds like a hell of a fucking glow up and
Starting point is 02:15:44 an engine change as well um it must be a drastic step up are they the same are they the same monster models though like yes okay because what the fuck
Starting point is 02:16:00 you do it again that'd be crazy alright no no no the high end ones from world are totally what's going to be the standard going forward um which means that the low end versions of monsters that weren't in world that we see here
Starting point is 02:16:16 are confirmed for the next monster hunter yeah you poke them on arsaros arsaros was not in um what do you call it um of world I like arsaros I think he's fun
Starting point is 02:16:32 I'm glad to see arsaros in whatever the next game will be now but do you guys do y'all want like return of the classics more than cool new shit both both always both
Starting point is 02:16:48 because everybody likes the cool new shit there's some fucking winners in that cool new shit however um there is like basically every everybody wants every monster hunter roster to be monster hunter all stars mm-hmm
Starting point is 02:17:04 and the there is a pretty universal agreement on who is the winners and who is the losers nobody is out there just screaming
Starting point is 02:17:20 for fucking oh god who's a loser jade barath to come back right jade barath is like fine I guess but people want zinogre question when zinogre is not in the game you're like when is zinogre
Starting point is 02:17:36 gonna happen but what about the part where there must be monsters where you're like fuck that monster that thing sucks I never wanted again but holy shit that armor is great yeah yeah right there's two parts to every
Starting point is 02:17:52 all star hopefully there'll be a new armor that does something similar like a really good example is um gormagala I think all of his gear that he's ever had was trash but he's one of the most fun fights in the series
Starting point is 02:18:10 mm-hmm so please put him back in I'm always remembering what I saw of that like gurren lagan bug and like how you can like basically get that crazy armor from that fight
Starting point is 02:18:26 well good news for you that's called the celtus and the celtus queen the celtus and the celtus queen are dead ass last on the list of monsters to likely come back because they have a completely unique skeleton that has never been applied to anything else
Starting point is 02:18:42 right so one of the things for watching a monster hunter game come out is you go I know that skeleton that's sonogur skeleton that means that this monster this monster this monster and this monster are on the table
Starting point is 02:18:58 right but the bugs don't share one except nercilla which also has a unique skeleton is totally going to be in rise so so it's wasted assets if you if you don't yeah share okay
Starting point is 02:19:14 one of the monsters that I absolutely adore that was the first monster they said was not going to be in world was called the guy Chris was the flagship for three it's like a big alligator but Mizzou in the demo
Starting point is 02:19:30 shares the guy Chris's skeleton and Ludroth in the trailers also shares the guy Chris's skeleton so maybe laggy will be in rise which is great because everybody loves laggy and
Starting point is 02:19:48 and so on and so forth is the and it doesn't have the same world format to of like you can just go on an open world hunt and like that's unclear that or is it just okay comes out because they can go back to like a list of missions and and that's it
Starting point is 02:20:04 how that's how it used to be right they have said that they are going to separate the multiplayer and single player quests out again they'll be on a completely separate progression which makes
Starting point is 02:20:22 balance sense so let me explain the way the way that you did it in world was that you'd play the mission in the story and then you get the cut scene and then you can invite your friends right yeah and then it would be the same name
Starting point is 02:20:38 of the mission in every monster hunter game aside from world there were a set of single player missions and a set of multiplayer missions that were completely different so that was the only time they overlapped okay yeah
Starting point is 02:20:54 so when you went into multiplayer you would have to do the key quests for the multiplayer storyline and I think the reason that they went back to this was because of all the complaints of I can't just play through the fucking game with my friends
Starting point is 02:21:10 because we all have to watch that fucking stupid cut scene and then back out and do that shit and the multiplayer missions always went further and further in the old games like that's where all the really crazy shit was but they are still going to scale
Starting point is 02:21:26 down to however many players so if you play it completely solo you can just do one and then the other um or you could grab the boys and be a good old Carter it's kind of wild though because like so now you have the dog and the cat right
Starting point is 02:21:46 but you have two dogs and two cats call me the Carter but more than that is like I went into a foreman and unlike before it used to be like you could only come in with your cat if there was like two people right because
Starting point is 02:22:02 you only wanted a total of four people dude you go in with four humans and four dogs that's insane that's an army it's a lot that's an army it's a lot of shit going on okay
Starting point is 02:22:22 well that sounds incredible that sounds really really cool um and all of that is not even mentioning like hair or high wind of the obvious best new addition
Starting point is 02:22:38 the fucking woofers oh yeah well no I talked about them they they're cars dude also like there's like there's the like the can you pet the dog has the fucking
Starting point is 02:22:54 extended like fuck petting it you can get all up in them scratchy scratchies and shooka shookas and get a full-on stomach pat going the ground takedown and mount pets the weirdest weirdest
Starting point is 02:23:10 weirdest pre-order bonus I have ever seen is the pre-order bonus for Rise where you get a skin for the dog that turns it from a battle dog into a normal dog oh wow it turns it into a golden retriever
Starting point is 02:23:26 otherwise it's completely unremarkable sick that's cool good good good that's it for me if you want to check out more of that crap you can check it out on pat stairs twitch.tv slash pat stairs that gonna be playing bao encoder 2 this week
Starting point is 02:23:46 year of week of twos uh uh what about you walls I had a couple things uh not a ton but I just want to I guess put out
Starting point is 02:24:04 as a PSA that um that's me well yes but actually as a public service announcement and and no discuss me too you should watch my show okay well no discussion here
Starting point is 02:24:20 just a simple statement and uh and we keep it moving uh if you're not watching attack on Titan you should start alright moving on okay there it is alright the uh the week for me uh was
Starting point is 02:24:36 uh Reggie was uh able to get to the shrine of storms and he was introduced to uh the Durst count as I affectionately call it
Starting point is 02:24:52 it's quite interesting it's quite interesting um seeing a uh he went in basically to with this to the session thinking about yep he went into the session
Starting point is 02:25:08 thinking about how he um on how he was under utilizing his shield in many circumstances and uh went in with the effort to put more on and that led to uh some disasters
Starting point is 02:25:24 but it's quite wild to watch the struggle against a completely different type of enemy after one one and one two are down and just picking it all up never encountered anything like this before stamina management
Starting point is 02:25:40 you know like the whole thing I'm just I'm seeing it firsthand infinitely fascinating um all the way from like I know what I'm doing wrong to like I'm just what is this like and then like I got the hang of it and it's like no you got over confident
Starting point is 02:25:56 and then the journey from alright let's compensate for overconfidence by being extra safe but like now impatience is starting to set in so you know what you're doing wrong and you know how compensate for overconfidence and you know
Starting point is 02:26:12 how to play it safe but you're still just getting annoyed because of the time it's taking and kiting is like not natural so he's getting used to the like he's get like oh god kite him all back to a safe area every time and it's like yes every time every time but then the impatience
Starting point is 02:26:28 kicks in at some point later on was like no I can just go get this one like no you can't no you can't don't do that you know um and it's it's it's it's really really entertaining to watch um and you know even when
Starting point is 02:26:44 the a solution was discovered where it's like hey parry button it's still there it's really good there was like the discovery of it and then there was like really good it is but he's like I'm
Starting point is 02:27:00 gonna I'm not landing it I'm not the timing's not working I'm gonna start trying another solution here you know and thankfully the game has other solutions like if you can find your pattern and do it consistently you'll be fine you know yeah that game's
Starting point is 02:27:16 got a million piles of bullshit you can use um and and and the one that I had never done that works in specifically that area is yeah maybe put your dex weapon down and just punch those bones
Starting point is 02:27:32 punch them real good they don't like it just hit them you know so uh fucking fist was the way to go uh it was yeah it was really just like a lot of fun because you struggle um
Starting point is 02:27:48 in the same short area but you spend the same amount of time as you do traversing a longer easier area you know um because it's it's much quicker but you just redo it because it sucks
Starting point is 02:28:04 over and over and over again and in the meantime you're picking up amazing things in 401 uh you're picking up fucking you know obviously the uh educator shield and crescent falchion plus one uh and he's a dex build so
Starting point is 02:28:20 you know all of that uh collision and shit like that is there so yeah it just like the payoff first butting your head against this is like obviously you get these great weapons and so yeah it's fun to watch
Starting point is 02:28:36 the mental adjustment and um I think so far even though he's really being hard on himself like the progress is really good because it's been one session one boss down
Starting point is 02:28:52 three bosses in three sessions is pretty good you know super toxic well what allows the day to be saved is ending on a completion and a positive where there's growth
Starting point is 02:29:08 and a reward and everything feels good because if you go home and you didn't actually make it further and cement that progress how you gonna sleep at night you know it's rough and and uh I think that that's gonna stop
Starting point is 02:29:24 eventually but right now it's helping to cement like the good feelings of like these struggles are worth something and like after the stream comes down and like we're not recording anymore dude is just like yo this game fucking rocks
Starting point is 02:29:40 holy shit just getting super pumped on it you know which is like you love to see it it's it's uh it's going great yeah I'm trying to think it's like demon souls has like probably the widest variety of like fucking shit you can do
Starting point is 02:29:56 but it also has like the hardest whiplash of like because the level structure of like this shit just does not work here like stabbing weapons really good for for 2-1
Starting point is 02:30:12 completely fucking worthless for 4-1 like useless and like you do have to understand or at the very least it helps to know that they're mega manning you right it's not that this is going to not be useful
Starting point is 02:30:28 at any point ever again but this particular area is asking you to learn something else and uh it's also giving you things that are gonna be incredible when you leave but right now learn this alternate skill set
Starting point is 02:30:44 you know um and I would say that like yeah each area does a good job of basically having a tight little mega man loop with the enemies you're dealing with I live in a fucking zoo basically
Starting point is 02:31:02 so yeah that continues and uh we shall see how things go um I've kind of decided on like how to handle some of the questions we were touching on earlier about
Starting point is 02:31:18 uh how much steering wheel and how much to notify and blah blah blah so um I want to make a side note though I've been playing my own personal save file in the meantime and I've basically come to the end of
Starting point is 02:31:34 New Game Plus I'm not going to go through it again just because like for the sake of the LP like it's nice to be able to reference things wherever but this time around I went through did all the NPCs, did all the colorless souls, did all the world tendency
Starting point is 02:31:50 events and basically had a complete clear um and so having gone through it New Game Plus in desks is fucking for real compared to the other game absolutely because obviously like you have way less levels to play with and unless your first points were spent correctly
Starting point is 02:32:06 you're not going to get that many more you know you kill two bosses and clear two stages and still don't have enough for a level up so yeah it's real shit man and uh I was explaining this uh but
Starting point is 02:32:24 when I started my New Game Plus I did Phalanx and immediately went to um Lavaspard or Flame Lurker like right away I book lined, I be lined it to Flame Lurker and it was it was clearly not the time
Starting point is 02:32:40 for me to do it but I'm like well just do people do depraved runs so it's just learn to do it and like yeah that was the most suffering I've had in the game so far but it got through it but it was fucking brutal you know
Starting point is 02:32:56 um yeah yeah uh something really weird happened so well two things of note I had never bothered with taking out the blue dragon um red is on the bridge and it sucks
Starting point is 02:33:12 cause you do the weird aiming thing but you can eventually deal with it blue super sucks like so they added that new shortcut in that that shortcut that you can do near blue is brand new yeah I was wondering
Starting point is 02:33:28 because I opened it up and I went wait a minute what the fuck is this lever and I didn't even see it until my New Game Plus I literally completely missed that lever so that was that was added in because of how much blue
Starting point is 02:33:44 sucks if you're trying to kill it I guess but it doesn't help with that though everything okay another break yeah no just missing something hold on okay we'll hit the break oh okay we thought we were out of dog food we are not in fact out of dog food
Starting point is 02:34:00 okay no break um cause I'm like I know I put the dog food in there how much more dog food we got babe okay I'm gonna get more dog food so yeah like you're looking at this thing going like alright
Starting point is 02:34:16 what's the best route to deal with this and at least with the red one with the red dragon you can get it within casting range and kind of cast at it but for blue you can get it within that range but like it's a shitty situation uh you're standing
Starting point is 02:34:32 at you're standing at the in the fire essentially or you can play it with arrows but like uh the distance you're hitting from is one where the arrows have less effectiveness so you can never really hit it for good damage with the arrows you're wasting
Starting point is 02:34:48 your white arrows or you're doing poison damage but then you gotta go you know and like I used all my poison arrows that I hoarded up and anyway it was just a lot less fucking you know fun to deal with well not that any of them are fun to deal with but um
Starting point is 02:35:04 something super weird happened though uh in my penetrator fight uh bior runs up right and I'm rocking my um uh dragon bone crusher plus five
Starting point is 02:35:20 and oh fantastic and then I curse it with curse with curse plate curse sword and then I two hand that bitch continue to curse bring a truck down on top of the penetrator right this is how I play my game
Starting point is 02:35:36 um the AOE on the blade itself of course is still something to consider in your in your measurement and my AOE uh nix bior oh no
Starting point is 02:35:52 and does enough to turn him aggro even though it wasn't a direct hit on him it was the threshold for his rage is triggered
Starting point is 02:36:08 so now he stops fighting penetrator and is coming at me and it's a 2v1 with bior and penetrator versus me that's unfortunate that was a
Starting point is 02:36:24 fucking trip and I believe and believe you fucking me I actually did it like I took them I I met I killed penetrator and ran away from bior
Starting point is 02:36:40 and basically got to a point where uh I could trigger the the uh the nexus and leave and like not deal with his aggro you know um and it sucks cause it's like well fuck
Starting point is 02:36:56 like I basically just created ornstein and smoke yes I turned the penetrator fight into ornstein and smoke um so run back to the nexus uh and book it to the statue and pay for your sins
Starting point is 02:37:12 cause you can do that now new forgiveness statue yay so you pay the 24 to access it to even talk to it you pay for your sins my sins ended up costing 68 or 69
Starting point is 02:37:28 k in total which is pretty brutal but is what it is that was the cost so basically everything I got from killing the penetrator ended up going right into the forgiveness fund cause what are you gonna do
Starting point is 02:37:44 um and I'm like alright yay so that makes bior not mad at me anymore right great so he sits in his usual spot in front of the art stone and tells you that you know
Starting point is 02:38:00 beware the limits of your own power bior is fine you move forward into one four and you hit the blue dragon and bior is not fucking there and he never goes there and he never
Starting point is 02:38:16 does anything and I'm like what are you doing on and you basically supposed to be there getting fucking punked but he's not so when you go to the art stone where you aggroed him he continues to wait at that art stone to kill you if you ever go
Starting point is 02:38:32 back to the penetrator art stone and you kill the boss but you don't kill bior oh you totally broke this this is a hundred percent broken he stands there waiting to fight you you do the forgiveness he no longer wants to fight you but he warps into that
Starting point is 02:38:48 aggro spot in the world and never moves from it and cannot be talked to so they didn't fucking test it or this bug didn't get fixed but like yeah you know that's a qa right there
Starting point is 02:39:04 creates draw someone's aggro in the world don't kill them and then go ask for forgiveness and they will continue to do bug because you couldn't forgive before you couldn't get a forgiveness before
Starting point is 02:39:20 so he's friendly in the nexus but he won't do shit in the world and I don't have the time or patience to bother speak but I fucking bet that if you tested every in world NPC
Starting point is 02:39:36 you would run into that problem by playing with the forgiveness but yeah so heads up to anybody that might actually you know accidentally draw aggro in the world or whatever I mean Bjarre is probably the most obvious one
Starting point is 02:39:54 and Ostrava you can hit by mistake too, Reggie backstabs him like fucking five times I think it's insane how many accidental backstabs he gets off to Bjarre is the one you're by far the most likely to hit
Starting point is 02:40:10 he's in the way he's in the fucking way yeah so there's that and yeah I would just say that like beyond souls and stuff I was just like in the mood
Starting point is 02:40:30 I was having a hankering for some KOF 13 were you were you getting a hankering because of its beautiful beautiful sprites its sprites are so pretty that I you know it wasn't just that
Starting point is 02:40:46 necessarily but they are gorgeous they're very gorgeous and you know the system in place had to be I suppose like they didn't have these giant move lists but the system allows you to link moves together and they did what they could
Starting point is 02:41:02 based on the fact that you know these sprites are so gorgeous so anyway leave the man alone I argued with him for a while about those sprites leave him to his takes let him be it's fine it's okay like you can't have the sprites too expensive and I'm like I guess they should have spent more money then
Starting point is 02:41:30 actually what really led me to it was more so Juicebox retweeted a great article that someone was writing about like getting into the system in 13 and basically learning how to use the HD
Starting point is 02:41:48 cancels and how to properly you know do some of those really advanced trials and shit and the the meme forever is people putting a screenshot basically like if someone's on Twitch doing
Starting point is 02:42:04 KOF 13 trials they're flexing the highest execution possible and so when you see a fucking edit of Bernie Sanders in the corner this is the direction that we're going now as everyone's getting into streaming
Starting point is 02:42:20 welcome to the burn barn we're doing advanced HD cancel loops today leave a donation, please subscribe yeah this article kind of just talked about some of that stuff and things that you know kind of lead to the touch of death in that game
Starting point is 02:42:38 but the execution is high enough that essentially while you knew about the touches of the touch of death and a lot of the crazier things in the game it would A end up being far beyond the reach of most people that were casually playing and B oh yeah way way way beyond
Starting point is 02:42:54 and B touch of death in a game that's a team based game like Marvel or so is not as big a deal because you still got to think about your resources for the rest of the team so I was basically in the mood to you know just go back and
Starting point is 02:43:10 tighten up like some of the stuff that I do remember and kind of revisit some of those trials and just you know have some fun with it so yeah I spent a couple days just messing around with the system in 13
Starting point is 02:43:26 sprites and those pretty sprites and I enjoyed looking at them while simultaneously just thinking about how absolutely unforgiving the combo system is in this game and how it's just this you know when they made it they basically went is this
Starting point is 02:43:42 going to happen often to people who are not excellent players no but that's okay because if you care enough you will get good enough to do this consistently and um it's yeah it's one of the last
Starting point is 02:43:58 games that was just like really like we're not going to hold your hand um if you do a jump in and you land a hit that's nice but if you didn't land it deep enough your opponent is not going to be staggered long enough
Starting point is 02:44:14 to for you to combo them every other game yeah every other game is allowing you to jump in and hit somebody and then get your combo here if your shit is not aiming for the waste then you're getting nothing
Starting point is 02:44:30 for your efforts you know and that's okay because you have short hops uh yes which means you have to do it even faster and tighter and be more precise uh also hey you know what I want to say happy 25th anniversary to king of fighters
Starting point is 02:44:46 the fucking series that started in 94 wait what that's fucking stupid oh shit wait yeah I guess yeah damn huh
Starting point is 02:45:06 years are hard that's fucking dumb years are hard anyway yeah I don't think about it it's uh it's also a game where you got links and those links
Starting point is 02:45:22 must be crispy and you cannot mash you must be precise so anytime you're hoping to you know not think about a segment of a combo and just kind of like turn your brain off and you know
Starting point is 02:45:38 get it at the next available opportunity by mashing through it fuck off not going to happen and even to the point where the the hd cancels which you're doing between certain strings are
Starting point is 02:45:54 so they're precisely timed enough that if you do them at the wrong time you will they won't give you the forward momentum dash to continue your combo so all of this comes together to just end up being like again one of the last
Starting point is 02:46:10 unforgiving games you know um there's a I'm just thinking in like the back of my head the phrase this combo requires a micro walk just playing in the back of my mind yep yep yep yep
Starting point is 02:46:26 okay are you doing you're doing your ash crimson corner flash kick loops well you gotta run back in to do your 4 hk or your 4d
Starting point is 02:46:42 you like fucking flash kick again like the button you look at the notation and it says just do 4d and then flash kick 4d and then flash kick but when you look at the demo you're like no no no you gotta run back in there
Starting point is 02:46:58 or in some cases you got micro walks you have to do a micro run yeah yeah absolutely if you know if you have micro walks and you play like phong you can get crazy extra damage I hate it to quote kevin landon
Starting point is 02:47:14 aka daiminion the micro walks separate the men from the boys such a stupid quote it's the realest shit ever you want an extra you want an extra little bit of damage that'll make the difference between winning and losing the round
Starting point is 02:47:30 you fucking get that micro walk in because anytime you lose and it was close that would have taken it whenever you look at the life bar and you think oh that little bit of damage left on the table would have ended it by now
Starting point is 02:47:46 then that's on you uh yeah so that being said even though it's that hard it takes some effort it is learnable it is doable but it requires patience and by the point
Starting point is 02:48:02 that you're breaking it up into segments and you're going through a lot of times you do extended combos in any particular game as usual you come out the other side and by the time you're doing it it's very satisfying it's very fun
Starting point is 02:48:18 and even though you're not necessarily going to be able to convert into that specific combo in the middle of a round you'll be able to do part of it if you get that opportunity you know so um KOF 13
Starting point is 02:48:34 but hopefully all of that shit will not matter at all KOF 15 just got shown off a little bit it did and it's possible that it will have roll back neck but maybe
Starting point is 02:48:50 let me try that again it's possible that it will have good internet online play because of the roll backs which would be nice I guess whatever
Starting point is 02:49:08 I I can't see any news about 15 without immediately getting sad about Saudi Arabia so I don't like I'm surrounded by it and I just every time I see it
Starting point is 02:49:24 I get bummed out and I go well maybe it'll have whatever but quite frankly I kind of would like some clarification on that issue and I guess I'm just going to be that guy that brings up the bummer that is not that we're not talking about anymore but this is where I'm at
Starting point is 02:49:40 um I also notice when like there's a weird level of like non-conversation happening amongst like FGC people that did talk about it when it first happened but then there's
Starting point is 02:49:56 a little bit of deafening silence you know so I don't know anyway they announced a bunch of stuff because there was that and yeah no I'm sorry it's just it's what it is
Starting point is 02:50:12 it's not my fault no and the PS4 port of you know 14 getting roll back and shit and that sucks because I kind of hope that
Starting point is 02:50:28 like 13 basically only got to PS4 and PS5 in the form of the streaming service PSNOW whereas the steam version is like still around but literally like might not even work if you have it installed on a hard drive
Starting point is 02:50:44 where the partition is bigger than um 2 terabytes like the steam version of KOF 13 like I bought it and it just would not boot because it was not meant to run on modern large hard drives it's fucking weird
Starting point is 02:51:00 yeah that thing's fucky so I would really love if it would be great if you know the PS3 version of that could run on PS4 you know it'd be nice but it's what it is I would like to take
Starting point is 02:51:16 a moment to actually defend you as I saw a comment and this isn't the first time I've seen this comment which was woolly you can't punish SNK because somebody you don't like bought that
Starting point is 02:51:32 no ethical consumption under capitalism yes no that's not even where I was gonna go and it is like woolly doesn't owe SNK his fucking money it's not an assumption
Starting point is 02:51:48 that he would buy a video game product on default it has nothing to do with punishment that's so ridiculous he or I or you I'm allowed to buy whatever the fuck we want
Starting point is 02:52:04 or don't it's so stupid yeah you're also allowed to make your own decisions on whether you know whether like on your comfort levels with all of this and go accordingly like that's why it's the type of thing where I'm always referring
Starting point is 02:52:20 to as having a conversation about it because I don't I'm not gonna sit here if you interpret me bringing this up as me coming up and decrying that you are all to be shamed for getting hype about this game and wanting to give them your money
Starting point is 02:52:36 and purchase it and play it and enjoy it then you're taking the wrong thing from this and you're putting your own message down that's not what I'm saying but what I am saying is that's completely right I am the type of person to do what I am saying is
Starting point is 02:52:52 it should be a conversation at the bare fucking minimum at least talk about it and at least know that it's a thing and that's all like if you're gonna decide hey this is where it goes and in the end like the developers are more part of the equation
Starting point is 02:53:08 than the person who they didn't have control over buying their stock and that's what you go on then that's what you go on if that's where you're at then that's fine there's a level of pushback from some people that just come on and go oh fuck you woolly what about the Uyghurs and it's like if you're coming at it
Starting point is 02:53:24 with that point of view you're already taking a stance that basically I'm not gonna argue with your decision that's fine but I am going to bring it up because it's the first thing that comes up to mind every time I see something related
Starting point is 02:53:40 a new product coming out related to SNK the first thing that comes to mind because I'm fucking depressed about it you know and I mean whether you want to look at it as okay what's your degree of how much bullshit is in
Starting point is 02:53:56 where your dollar gets stretched is your dollar supporting crunch time for a company? yeah that's garbage is that enough for you to decide that you're not gonna purchase a product? it might be but for most people I know it seems to not be and then to what connection point
Starting point is 02:54:12 do you describe you know where China plays a role in the purchasing of a game that's involved with Tencent for example and there's degrees of separation and I think that the level of separation
Starting point is 02:54:28 with this particular topic with SNK is extremely close it's closer than I'd like it to be than any other circumstance you can't it's a little bit harder to separate them from the other examples I just gave so that's why it ends up playing
Starting point is 02:54:44 a constant role in this discussion for me that's why I bring it up but by no means am I gonna sit there and tell you that your mark should be your point should be where mine is but I'm gonna bring up the topic no matter what well you say
Starting point is 02:55:06 that we should be society but you live in society idiot I don't care enough yet you still participate in society interesting
Starting point is 02:55:22 yes something to those effects well he says that he hates bad thing but he buy phone phone evil
Starting point is 02:55:38 no there's no winning there's no winning that's not realizing that we're fucked is not an abdication of it's not a shrugged shoulder well I guess we're fucked so no point thinking about it at all
Starting point is 02:55:54 yeah again it's just this is something that has been a part of my life for a very long time is just become one of this uncomfortable thing so you know and
Starting point is 02:56:10 the more cynical are out there going like oh fuck you you're gonna fucking buy and play it anyway and it's like okay if you say so you know maybe maybe not I don't think I don't think that your take is necessarily gonna fucking land the same way this time
Starting point is 02:56:26 buddy you know but anyway it's just it's just every my timeline is nothing but KOF hype for 15 right now and I have
Starting point is 02:56:42 I identify again one single tweet prior to my mention of it that like revisited the news from November one and I kind of just like man like not even a discussion huh you know and I say this
Starting point is 02:56:58 to someone who why don't you just why don't you just like steal it yeah that was brought up is that a solution that was brought up someone was just like oh yeah well hey just fucking don't give them the money then and play it anyway right and is like oh I don't
Starting point is 02:57:14 have the ability to navigate this fucking this minefield I just steal it you know yeah yeah that was a wild fucking yard just
Starting point is 02:57:30 you know and but anyway I say this no no I don't mean I didn't say pirate it I said like hang out outside of Best Buy and when some kid comes out with this copy of KOF 50 you punch that kid in the face and run because when you hang out outside of Best Buy that's likely
Starting point is 02:57:46 gonna be the game a kid walks out of there with I don't know somebody's gotta buy it right that's not true at all what the fuck are you talking about um KOF game oh my god the one that I fucking hassled the
Starting point is 02:58:02 downtown game stop for I think it was like 12 weeks after launch possibly every single week being told it'll be here next Thursday don't worry like just anyway um
Starting point is 02:58:18 I had a point I was just gonna say that what was I gonna say yeah yeah I I it would be significantly less weird if like it wasn't not mentioned at all
Starting point is 02:58:34 um if you know and uh and I'm saying this as somebody who fucking sat down with the producer and director of Sam's show and you know have spoken to and talked to and like you know gotten uh closer
Starting point is 02:58:50 with like people that are you know affiliated with SNK and stuff so it's like yeah um it it just it feels really bad you know um but yeah
Starting point is 02:59:06 I miss when I was like I'm gonna I'm gonna play I'm gonna play right now I'm like I can just I'm gonna play what I fucking bought and and you know what where we're at right now but like um
Starting point is 02:59:22 and it seems as if you know based on the way like things have gone with like the wwe and stuff like that like it doesn't ever have to come up again and they don't oh you know they don't they they seem to not like anytime something like this goes down they don't they don't oh an explanation so they just kind of like power through
Starting point is 02:59:38 and it is what it is and you know we're just it's just gonna be in this weird place where are you playing left for dead 2 as a part of the left for dead 2 boycott on steam group you know this is and then that's that's the only question whatever right where do you
Starting point is 02:59:54 where do you where do your ethics morals and fucking feelings lie on these matters you know blah we just um swerved but yeah KO 13 combos fun might do that this week for getting to fighting
Starting point is 03:00:10 games I think but um the schedule change because of the curfew is real so no more oh wow I realized that would totally affect you oh man totally yeah no more no more
Starting point is 03:00:26 night shifting so to speak so previously we had daytime streams and then we do Thursdays and Saturday nights but now we're gonna kind of simplify it and Thursdays are gonna be single stream
Starting point is 03:00:42 and Saturdays are gonna be daytime doing starting at one fucking sucked and I hated it and I need something resembling a sort of break so
Starting point is 03:00:58 it we might push it forward even slightly and just kind of do like a you know three to six kind of thing um but we're essentially gonna move getting to fighting games uh to Saturdays for now because Thursday daytime
Starting point is 03:01:14 is not really a time when people are gonna be online to fight against it's kind of a silly you know proposition whereas weekends at least people are gonna be around so um for now Thursdays will be the third
Starting point is 03:01:30 session of whatever we're LP'ing and then Saturdays are gonna be when we do our get into fighting games and if things change up then uh yeah we'll uh we'll let you know but that's all over on woolly versus on youtube and woolly
Starting point is 03:01:46 versus on twitch and uh we will adjust according to the rules of the Montreal curfew alright let's take a quick word from our sponsors let's do that
Starting point is 03:02:16 yes three hours later we are done with the weeks well to be fair a good portion of that was uh current events but you know it's like this is what
Starting point is 03:02:34 this is what the format has been feeling like for a while now it's kind of a it's a weird podcast but it is what it is and uh i think we put out a good product i don't but i mean i think i think it's a better product than
Starting point is 03:02:52 all the other shitty products that's what i say it passes muster how about that i don't know what that means like i well i mean i know what it actually means but i don't know what the origin of muster is it sounds like a military term yeah it sounds
Starting point is 03:03:08 like a military thing let's find out google passes muster meaning uh meter required standard um that yard cleanup won't pass muster with mom the expression originally meant to undergo a military
Starting point is 03:03:26 review without censure muster referring to an assembling of troops for inspection or a similar purpose late 1500s there you go we're so smart this week castle super beast is sponsored
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Starting point is 03:04:12 someone should really get some weapons together and go clean out those ghettos what i what oh i mean he said it i am the devil and i will be reborn
Starting point is 03:04:30 unto all the sinners hey hey what's up everybody uh this week castle super beast is sponsored by ray con earbuds earbuds for hearing things for example
Starting point is 03:04:46 you want to be able to hear the the excellent crackly teenage voiced willy that just did in his devil bit uh you should get some ray con earbuds yes if for example you're too young to remember the skit on saturday night
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Starting point is 03:05:18 trash for longer than some of the people listening to this have been alive but the episodes with will ferrell that i'm referring to from years ago were not trash were they they weren't i'm just saying like people don't even know they don't even know
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Starting point is 03:07:46 that would be dangerous also that color would indicate something uh negative in terms of status effect no wait unless they're made out of vegetables unless it's hp going up in which case that's good
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Starting point is 03:10:48 uh with more important topics but indeed about an hour before we started today square enix trademarks ever crisis first soldier and general logo in japan image of
Starting point is 03:11:04 zack is used so hey i mean ever crisis is the next game in compilation of file fancy it's ec yeah we stopped at uh dc although we did
Starting point is 03:11:20 we did get lo so you know what does that mean means that one didn't count a cbc dc hello i don't
Starting point is 03:11:36 know but means we can get final crisis in the next one oh yeah i suppose so this is totally going to be the game that follows the
Starting point is 03:11:52 zack timeline uh i suppose we'll find out right maybe that was maybe maybe what they're doing is um furthering the branch idea into whatever it may into whatever they uh they're hinting at
Starting point is 03:12:08 or if the first or the first soldier is anything to go by uh you might be talking about sephiroth getting more backstory that's what that makes me think
Starting point is 03:12:24 of unless the first soldier is g yeah yeah think about it but maybe angela is coming back g is still the first not
Starting point is 03:12:50 new world new rules g is still totally the first he's explicitly mentioned in ff7 r i'm trying to run away from gact as fast and as hard as i can you can't run away
Starting point is 03:13:08 from gact he will make you come by his hand that's a weird tweet i don't get that tweet hmm i'll get it redemption no gact
Starting point is 03:13:28 no redemption you fuck get back out there a bujing guy yeah you know someone was supposed to send me a bujing guide in the mail
Starting point is 03:13:44 that i can use it as toilet paper yeah yeah that's good i like that that's the type of paper you see funny thing is paper that's not soft enough for tissue and toilet paper usage
Starting point is 03:14:00 if you crush it up and uncrumple it and rub it together it softens it is that's a lot of work but it's worth it for gact's face get to feel that
Starting point is 03:14:18 yeah anyway gact's kind of a shit just in case you didn't know well this is a new thing and we'll see how much the brand of final fantasy 7 has to continue to associate
Starting point is 03:14:34 let's see if they dug their heels in too deep you know we'll have to find out but yeah new new thing and announced and trade or not announced trademarked so trademarked before
Starting point is 03:14:50 um r2 uh announcements of any kind so i assume this will be before this will be in between right and if this introduces and continues to if this introduces
Starting point is 03:15:08 um more new shit that we never seen then uh whatever comes next can depart as far as it wants to if they set a precedent yeah this is gonna go off this could go off to a crazy direction
Starting point is 03:15:26 oh yeah exactly i think it's they're like uh it's cool that uh we don't quite know where this is gonna go as opposed to being like well let's just see how pretty it looks you know you thinking about that drain pipe
Starting point is 03:15:48 i regret making that joke so bad it comes around every every couple months so just uh sometimes i forget the word i forget the source on that make your own waffles it came from somewhere
Starting point is 03:16:06 i also don't remember okay so in the meantime the the good news is that cdproject is going to be updating cyberpunk to be a better game with patches um say better
Starting point is 03:16:22 and the good news is also that if they don't then the polish office of competition and consumer protection will monitor their work and if they fail to deliver the patches they might be fined up to 10
Starting point is 03:16:38 percent of their income in the previous year uh that's fucking wild that's crazy that's a hell of a lot like that is so actually that's damaging to the company
Starting point is 03:16:54 if that goes through um and the way that uh they're treating it legally is effectively that like yeah you um we asked an entrepreneur to explain the problems
Starting point is 03:17:10 with the game and its actions taken by them we will check how the producer is working to make corrections or solving difficulties making it impossible to play on consoles but also how he intends to act towards people who have made complaints and are dissatisfied with the purchase due to the lack of possibility
Starting point is 03:17:26 to play the game on their equipment despite previous assurances of the producer so like the uokik as they're called is looking at this whole thing as an outsider from the
Starting point is 03:17:42 video game industry they're just treating it like a product that came out that did not deliver on what it promised it would do and has a bunch of dissatisfied customers well there's another angle to this which is that the the polish government directly
Starting point is 03:18:02 funded some of the game i think they put about six seven million dollars of government money into the game i didn't see which means they're also an investor an investor that has
Starting point is 03:18:20 some real push in power that wasn't mentioned in the article okay well oh god it was for AI development that's super funny it was a grant for developing AI
Starting point is 03:18:42 and they got cyberpunk i'd be so fucking pissed off oh man wow wow wow oh man that's non-existent cash oh just throw it right in the fucking trash and stomp it
Starting point is 03:19:06 stomp it right down the the polish drain get the money in between so at this point it is difficult to conclude whether CD Projekt will be punished the decision in this case will depend on what explanations the representatives of the office of the consumer
Starting point is 03:19:24 and competition protection will hear in these cases may find up to 10% of annual revenue man revenue not profit revenue
Starting point is 03:19:44 gross we are cutting 10 off the fucking gross that is on a serious note that can and will fuck the company up if they don't deliver on what they say they are going to
Starting point is 03:20:00 here well there is only one solution of this you know how you don't not deliver alright everybody put your crunch and boots on
Starting point is 03:20:18 time to really put your nose to the grand stone crispy, chocolatey munchy crunchy yeah further updates as the news comes out
Starting point is 03:20:38 but when you chop a 10th off of a company's revenue they do damage control because you cauterize the mood
Starting point is 03:20:54 somehow what if I were to cut 10% of you off yeah but you wouldn't be a fan of that one tenth of you all depends depends it would be a lot
Starting point is 03:21:18 yeah I could it wouldn't be a whole limb but it would be like most more than half of a limb certainly you got some 10% you can give up I got some more you could take yeah
Starting point is 03:21:34 oh that's 10% but we could do a spot check that wouldn't be the gross or it would be pretty gross it would be pretty gross I'm playing with cyberpunk in the meantime
Starting point is 03:21:54 for some reason all this time later Nintendo finally decides to put a ring on it and acquires next level games now it sounds they were basically
Starting point is 03:22:14 a Nintendo company making Nintendo games and they've been working with them and then they basically took over the Luigi's Mansion franchise and yeah a lot of people are surprised
Starting point is 03:22:30 because they're like wait weren't they already owned by Nintendo and the answer is no they weren't and in fact it sounds like they were planning to branch out at some point and
Starting point is 03:22:46 start taking contracts potentially from other investors and other interested parties at which point Nintendo then sent over some folks from their offices to
Starting point is 03:23:02 assess the brand and assess the company and work on board with them for a while and then eventually went yep let's just make it a part of our part of our fam and they acquired the company
Starting point is 03:23:20 you know what this is this is the business equivalent of being like hey Nintendo should we go steady nah babe you're not fucking anybody else though are you no
Starting point is 03:23:38 okay hey Nintendo I know we're not really exclusive so I'm gonna go out on the day it's essentially where I was yes that's exactly where I was gonna go with it so you know
Starting point is 03:23:54 next level is like so open right we open we're gonna go I'ma go chill and Nintendo's like hmmm yep but Nintendo
Starting point is 03:24:10 what about Retro don't you still love them I haven't seen Retro in years ever since I was walking don't you bring up her name yeah hey they're still hiring and how
Starting point is 03:24:33 Nintendo this ring is so beautiful can you do one more thing for me what is it company whose name I forgot next level what is it next level anything for my new wife could you
Starting point is 03:24:56 use the digital millennium copyright act to kill hundreds of fan games out of nowhere you got it babe they're fucking dead they're dead as shit we'll see if the DCMA DMCA excuse me
Starting point is 03:25:22 continues to exist quite frankly DCMA sounds like a fucking expansion pack to the DSM4 that's a joke for me no I got it man you think the DMCA too
Starting point is 03:25:42 it's the shit let me try that again man you think DMCA is bad now just wait until you get the DMCA too yeah yeah all that all that shit you used to talk about from that like punch mom's got the updated versions
Starting point is 03:26:12 and stuff so that continues to be a thing with the DSM but anyway next level acquired by Nintendo this is a just a little
Starting point is 03:26:30 again another little PSA if you were ever perhaps in the mood to watch some good ass third strike this week there was the cooperation cup third strike first attend special
Starting point is 03:26:46 event which consisted of the best third strike players in the world from Japan having first attend sets and there were some really good matches and in fact the fucking shit was so sick that third strike
Starting point is 03:27:02 and third strike was trending and Makoto kind of took over fighting game twitter for the night and it was a really good time and if you want to see some great matches
Starting point is 03:27:18 you can go check it out over at what was the page at twitch.tv slash game newton but also under the hashtag uh third ft10 special
Starting point is 03:27:34 some highlights are there shout out to the high fight doing some great fighting game work on twitter with some of the best moments from the special yeah fucking good ass third strike happened and honestly between
Starting point is 03:27:50 the marvel tournament between max's marvel event and this type of thing this is what works and this is what's great and this is what the fgc kind of needs is just some good ass gameplay from some classic titles
Starting point is 03:28:06 with some of the best representatives reminding everyone why we love these games just bringing the hype and nothing but so you want to watch some good ass third strike this is absolutely the place for it
Starting point is 03:28:22 man these dudes are just at another level and the speed they play at and the reactions and the setups and the callouts and all kinds of wild shit also special shout out to a tweet
Starting point is 03:28:38 jwong quoted someone had some tech where you see what is essentially the daigo parry except at the end when ken jumps to do the last parry and come down with the his combo to win the match
Starting point is 03:28:54 chun li is able to use a bug at the corner of the screen to cancel into a wall jump and get the fuck away from ken and then justin's like what the fuck is this shit i could have changed history and it's like perhaps so
Starting point is 03:29:10 perhaps so there was a way out after all they should they should make a street fighter 6 and it should just be third strike with two extra characters
Starting point is 03:29:34 that's what they should do make third strike and put some of the new characters into it and then make the sprites look as good as the incredible KOF 13 sprites oh boy well no, you see the
Starting point is 03:29:52 the budget is only worth it if they use the existing third strike sprites and don't have to do them again okay make the new characters have KOF 13 make, yeah just bring jury and hakan and all the all these new cool folks into
Starting point is 03:30:08 third strike mode and then put it out again and just call it fucking 6 and it's like hey look the story for third strike happens and then this takes place right afterwards and everybody was just off screen going oh yeah hey
Starting point is 03:30:24 i just didn't show up for that but we're here now we're late we're on the bus it was late nikali was there now he's here now he's never coming back now nikali's dead as shit nikali can go live with hakan and fun
Starting point is 03:30:40 and those fucking weird old assholes if i had to choose like which characters to preserve moving forward in the franchise i wouldn't choose nikali like he's i wouldn't choose akan
Starting point is 03:30:56 i would actually i would choose akan not just because he's interesting and a cool design but he represents a unique style of grappler and a gameplay style that you don't see in other characters
Starting point is 03:31:12 i would definitely want to see him coming forward edd i would want to see him come forward i don't play him at all but i really like zeku and he's been someone who's been in the background for a long time now
Starting point is 03:31:32 so i would really want to see his continued representation yeah i wouldn't pick you know necessarily like the characters i played like there's some that are just a bit more and like there's somewhere more iconic than that and like jury's a staple at this point right
Starting point is 03:31:48 you okay? i'm great do you want to grab akan? i already got this kan it's only so much kan can do alright well let's move on it's a little bit uh
Starting point is 03:32:12 just a follow up but we talked about how those arcsis trailers for dragon ball were some really really dick tickless shit that shows you nothing well thankfully
Starting point is 03:32:28 a second trailer has been released for baby super baby 2 that is and it's a full match so like i guess they're now showing off a second trailer with more gameplay these days because you get to see his full move list
Starting point is 03:32:44 and how he's used and what he does so so that's nice it's good to know that that's in there just like god dammit like fucking awful he's a super baby it's the second one
Starting point is 03:33:02 i hate it you know for years when i was like fucking deep diving into like all the fan sites on dragon ball and web rings it would always be super baby vegeta
Starting point is 03:33:18 too so like it's not that part out entirely but if you want it to up the count technically this should count as a vegeta dragon ball seems to be in love with like naming characters in the least threatening
Starting point is 03:33:34 most horrible way possible well it's also gt i mean look man there's a lot going on there's a lot going on in gt gt you're right yeah gt's fucking trash but it's like
Starting point is 03:33:56 you know if you're pulling from it right and you pull baby in like you could have pulled ube we don't have to have this conversation again we don't have to do this again it's the same thing again but they could have pulled ube
Starting point is 03:34:12 and if you want and ube shows up more there and has outfits and stuff and moves and things like you could have done it you know ube is a pick they could have made
Starting point is 03:34:28 but i'm seeing a lot of people going ube sucks and it's like you're right super baby too the greatest what the fuck what's what the ube hate
Starting point is 03:34:44 i like ube i don't know if you're gonna do a character again it's at least like it doesn't feel like another slot on the same character it doesn't feel like you're doing a boo slot again it feels legitimately like a different character i just saw somebody say that
Starting point is 03:35:02 ube has three minutes of screen time that seems like a massive improvement over super baby who just sucks more if you count super right i do but anyway
Starting point is 03:35:18 ube ube would have been a fine pick to me how do you feel about the killzone franchise is that a fucker? hold on can i add that answer
Starting point is 03:35:52 stenographer fucking halo killer well i'm sorry to report to you that the future looks bleak because the killzone website has been updated but it has been updated to announce
Starting point is 03:36:20 that they are closing the website oh well and essentially they've put up a notice saying that this doesn't affect the servers or anything but the actual franchise
Starting point is 03:36:38 for the website for the franchise has retired dearkillzone.com visitor the official website for killzone franchise has retired going forward visitors of killzone.com will be directed to playstation.com this doesn't change
Starting point is 03:36:54 this doesn't affect online multiplayer stats or ranking data for killzone mercenary or shadowfall it is now no longer possible to create or manage clans in killzone shadowfall we apologize for the inconvenience many years thanks to killzone's
Starting point is 03:37:10 many fans and visitors throughout the years from gorilla the most notable thing about the killzone franchise is the cg trailer that sony tried to pass off as real gameplay i do remember that that series is fucking terrible
Starting point is 03:37:30 but my brain also sometimes mixes it up with resistance fall of men that series is also kind of terrible and i have times where i like lapse into confusing which one is which that's fine you don't need to know about either
Starting point is 03:37:48 well killzone's the one with the not-gen row that's right yeah anyway um that is not an official announcement of the end of the franchise
Starting point is 03:38:04 the phrasing of it has a lot of people basically looking and going it seems like they're announcing that they're retiring the franchise yeah that's okay it's just usually you don't do that you just don't do anything you either announce a new thing
Starting point is 03:38:22 or you just let it stay killzone limped past the fucking future killzone managed to limp past the ditch that haze passed out and died in
Starting point is 03:38:38 so hopefully pass out in a ditch further down the road but wouldn't that wouldn't it be already in there and then haze dies on top of it didn't pass out in the ditch first haze's been dead for ages let's go to corn how do you think about haze
Starting point is 03:39:00 music to me is like a religion and haze is the shit thanks corn fucking haze is such a piece of shit speaking of pieces of shit yeah suspected piece of shit
Starting point is 03:39:26 supers uh business has uh and supers is the su p3 r5 uh it's a console selling site
Starting point is 03:39:42 has started taking pre-orders for the black ps5s and dual sense controllers and then after taking all those pre-orders uh all the orders were cancelled
Starting point is 03:39:58 and then the website's twitter account was deleted and they offer no explanation and they essentially vanish into the night oh okay so this sounds kind of like a scam uh let's see if there's more information
Starting point is 03:40:22 it doesn't look good it doesn't look good um seems like people reported on reddit that uh yeah they basically have not been able to okay some people on paypal were able
Starting point is 03:40:38 to get money back but people who used credit cards it seems like their orders have gone through and they're not getting their refunds it's an ongoing story so as of this exact moment details might change but right now the story being
Starting point is 03:40:56 reported is essentially that uh this store put pictures up and the site still has the pictures up of black ps5 consoles and controllers and took pre-orders on it and then kind of disappeared
Starting point is 03:41:12 with the money or at the very least uh closed down all communication opportunities uh some people got some refunds and some didn't so this is not looking great not looking great uh we'll see but
Starting point is 03:41:30 yeah I don't know if someone besides Sony says they're selling black ps5s or whatever and it's not a customized version then fucking uh assume they were customized versions were they
Starting point is 03:41:46 that's why they cost $200 more okay well that might explain that might explain what we're looking at here then I thought that they were announcing that they had some exclusive official no they were pre-ordering them getting them in stock
Starting point is 03:42:02 and then customizing them and then charging a $200 okay supposedly all right I didn't have the full story on that then and it's gonna they're gonna put those out officially anyway whatever
Starting point is 03:42:22 um yeah well that's not an official thing no didn't they announce that there would be black controllers officially with the first reveal? controllers yeah I believe but not the console no not the console no
Starting point is 03:42:38 but I remember seeing the alternate color controller that's mainly yeah which I mean quite frankly like to me that matters way more than the actual thing that's gonna console it's gonna just be over
Starting point is 03:42:54 by your TV setting in my fucking entertainment thing I can't even see it exactly yeah no the the the controller color is a bigger deal um okay well not exactly a complete story there so we'll have to see what we
Starting point is 03:43:10 find out afterwards uh and yeah that's I mean that's pretty much it it's pretty slow news week not much like the arcade one up cabinets for video games yeah the arcade one up cabinets are also are putting out um
Starting point is 03:43:26 uh dragons layer uh killer instinct and the x-men arcade game if if anyone's interested you can acquire those on the arcade one up business which is to be honest like every time I see them
Starting point is 03:43:42 I kind of look at them and I go like yeah it's a micro cabinet and it's cool that it's an affordable an option that like you can get I just know that I'm like I would I'm one of those insane people that wants the real thing
Starting point is 03:43:58 I'm a nut that absolutely is like I personally would be oh look it's an arcade cabinet for ants actually for real I'd be unhappy with it because of that mini size I would want my full size or
Starting point is 03:44:14 or a candy cab sit down style astro city you know um and uh when I say affordable I mean it is not prohibitively expensive like a regular arcade cabinet can be
Starting point is 03:44:30 it's not that it's affordable as much as it is not ridiculously insane uh if you want to join the cabinet club uh it is not something that um is a wise financial decision they don't exactly always
Starting point is 03:44:46 appreciate in value and then the cost of the game separate and board separate from the actual machine itself which tend to be prone to breaking down often need repairs and if you don't know how to do it yourself then you're
Starting point is 03:45:02 kind of looking at um anyway it's it's a syncing investment you gotta just you gotta enjoy the fact that you have it there for yourself and that's why you get one of these fucking bad boys you know uh let's take some letters and get out of here
Starting point is 03:45:18 hey if you see uh yep thank you yep mmm hey if you want to send a letter in you can send that in to castlesuperbeastmail
Starting point is 03:45:34 at gmail.com that's castlesuperbeastmail at gmail.com so we took one about caffeine is fucking crazy dude caffeine just wears off and then you die yeah caffeine doesn't give a fuck this is true
Starting point is 03:45:52 this is true um since we are on uh permanently borked sleep schedules I will no longer be referring to
Starting point is 03:46:08 any frame of time as early or late I will just remove that from my lexicon entirely uh oh I've just I've actually done the opposite I use them randomly okay because it's just
Starting point is 03:46:26 like we like you're always just gonna adjust up against the limits of your deadlines and um I don't know what to say like it seems to be it seems to not really matter what's happening uh
Starting point is 03:46:42 with the sun in the sky sometimes I'll feel fine and other times I'll feel like I'm dying and we're just on these fucked up sleep schedules and it's just what it is and the rest of the world uh continues so yes when when it's like oh it's approaching
Starting point is 03:46:58 one o'clock how early and everyone's like I was like shut up European fuck off assholes so you know we know you guys live on a weird part of the continent with the the sun's in the wrong spot
Starting point is 03:47:16 we got one coming in I got an email I'm stealing the emails I got one okay go ahead I gotta get my SEO numbers up
Starting point is 03:47:32 I have an email from at slowbeef the creator of the let's play and smartman that's not an email that's a twitter I said to slowbeef I said is it is it true that
Starting point is 03:47:48 let's plays were invented everyone would know that Yoshi sucks ass and he was like yes police knots and then that Yoshi sucks big ass fuck Yoshi
Starting point is 03:48:04 punch that motherfucker in the back of the head Mario yeah I don't know what it is but I love mounts in games I'm a huge fan of all of Kirby's buddies I love Ramby
Starting point is 03:48:22 and I love on guard I love mounts I think they're great for losers and I think they add a lot and it feels cool to play as them so the best part about Yoshi
Starting point is 03:48:38 is when you jump off of him and he dies I mean yeah that shit's hilarious and you know I'm gonna fucking you do it every time but yeah I like I fucking I love Yoshi Yoshi's great and then you he added
Starting point is 03:48:58 a lot to the gameplay it was fun also I remember when I saw him for the first time on the cover and I was like it was just this like whoa what the fuck new major Nintendo character
Starting point is 03:49:18 what is that Mario's got a new buddy and he's like front and center what's going on you know it was a big old question mark when the Super Nintendo came out and I answered somebody said why the Yoshi hate now
Starting point is 03:49:36 and I was like actually when I played Yoshi's Island I jumped and he did the flutter jump oh shit but you have so much control over it oh fuck it feels like fucking crap nah you can hover and you can stop it
Starting point is 03:49:52 early or you can get some extra height I like it I love it it's like the opposite of a good Mario jump and then like the fact that you can throw the eggs and aim them like up and down bam it was great
Starting point is 03:50:08 big pile of dead Yoshi's playing a Mario game but you have a projectile and a little shooting angle mini thing to play with so you can actually like fight bosses in a different engaged way it was legitimately a ton of fun not to mention the art style
Starting point is 03:50:24 Yoshi's Island seems pretty good I just hate Yoshi and the art style basically emulating that sort of childish wonder and fun was not only fucking gorgeous to me but it was so cool that my mom makes most video games
Starting point is 03:50:40 thought it was cute and came over and like sat down and started playing it cause like it was that fucking cool looking and wholesome that she was like oh what is this game I like this one is great Yoshi's Island seems pretty cool except for the Yoshi part so we got one coming in
Starting point is 03:50:58 from Hunter says what's up buddy how you doing dare crusaders of beastly fortifications hope you're doing alright I was curious cause in consideration of woolly's botchamania appearance I was thinking
Starting point is 03:51:18 since you've made your impact as influencers and content creators I'm wondering what passions and hobbies do you both love and are madly invested in that seem to be overshadowed by video games
Starting point is 03:51:34 now like games are cool but I really enjoy this and talking about this other thing this may include things that were passions as a child or is it always games then now and forever I pretty much split my time between video games and playing with my dogs and cats
Starting point is 03:52:02 ok at different points in my life it's different things once upon a time it used to be anime and manga it's much less that these days I think
Starting point is 03:52:18 I basically ended up hitting my fill at a certain point but I still follow through on the things that I like but there's more that I like that I'll never get around to cause there's just too much to consume but once upon a time it was that more so
Starting point is 03:52:36 currently I mean things that I'm into are a lot of them have to do with my internet career so to speak a lot of it is peripheral things to that so the way I'm putting together
Starting point is 03:52:54 these videos or other side projects or working on this you know these video essays or this like other little things that are not necessarily game related but are still related to the channel are becoming a big part of that but it still work right
Starting point is 03:53:10 so I don't feel like that answers the question directly I would say what I would spend the most time on outside of games right now would be listening to I think like comedy and podcasts I've always been a huge fan of stand up comedy I used to
Starting point is 03:53:26 put my win amp into a comedy radio station website and let that run all day pretty much on my computer while I was home so like I've always been just like super duper deep on that and like now there's a lot of
Starting point is 03:53:42 you know comedy out there that you can watch specials of and two there's a lot of comedians with like podcasts so yeah I'm super like in that world I think and I listen to a lot of
Starting point is 03:53:58 a lot of that cause it's just it's always been like fucking I don't know man funny shits funny you know and I like finding funny people and hearing them talk about stuff so that's a stand up comedy see here's the thing right
Starting point is 03:54:20 I have a lot of other interests but I wouldn't classify any of them as hobbies right like I'm into stand up but not nearly as much as woolly I'll watch an anime or read a manga from time to time but not like from time to time right the constants are
Starting point is 03:54:40 our dog and cat the video game work and lady and then call my mom and tell her that nothing's new and I'm like what's new with you and she tells me some fucking stupid story about my dad being a stubborn old man well now you're just
Starting point is 03:54:56 describing what you do with your time yeah so I mean that's a little more broad but you know once upon a time there was other things there like I said like there was wrestling at some point there was sports at some point you know
Starting point is 03:55:12 but like yeah it's a lot of work getting making sure that the the woman isn't eating the hurdy sand out here sure alright well that's that
Starting point is 03:55:30 let's see here 716 Darren says hey Pat and woolly I recently watched the old Silent Hill 2 Let's Play and Pat compares the titular town to a local city called Laval I wouldn't pay attention to this much but the day before I was watching
Starting point is 03:55:50 an episode of Canadian TV series Letterkinny and the final punchline to one of their episodes is every degenerate in Quebec comes from Laval I figure the same city being used as a joke both times can't be coincidence so I have to know what's the deal with Laval since it seems
Starting point is 03:56:08 the entirety of Quebec loves to shit on it no so the entirety of Quebec doesn't love to shit on it but the entirety of Montreal and people outside of Quebec will shit on Laval
Starting point is 03:56:24 once you're in Laval you can continue to redirect the shit to other municipalities if you live in Laval you can probably shit on Trois-Rivières and you can probably shit on Abitibi, Temesca-Mang
Starting point is 03:56:40 and you know Nuns Island and whatever else you want or you know, Tethford Mines so yeah the Cleveland of Canada I mean I wouldn't go that far but it's just it's
Starting point is 03:56:56 look I grew up in Laval I'm from Laval what I like what I there's your proof right there sorry I had to Laval is just kind of boring it's infinite
Starting point is 03:57:12 suburbs and it's entirely French there is no English there are people that like when I say it's monolingual like in Montreal people speak French but they understand some English
Starting point is 03:57:28 in Laval you're likely to run into people who do not understand English like zero but you know whatever more than anything though it's just boring infinite suburbs I always felt that the rawness of it's shit is that it's
Starting point is 03:57:44 an infinity suburb and they're all the same house like it's fucking astonishing like there's literally nothing there because the solution to why isn't there anything here is go across the bridge into Montreal yeah no
Starting point is 03:58:00 my childhood is a granada sandwich and the bread is Laval this is how I grew up you know every single person I know I knew you grew up in Laval I knew my pal Fuggins I knew my friend Nick
Starting point is 03:58:18 all grew up in Laval and all of you are just like man fuck Laval there's a bridge to Montreal and like it's the bridge to freedom you fucking cross that bridge and you never look back
Starting point is 03:58:34 you don't stop for nothing you keep on going no matter what you hear behind you that's it really it's a wild poll it's like watching the whole Silent Hill 2 LP I don't remember making fun of Laval
Starting point is 03:58:54 but fuck that place now it's similar but different it's like it might, oh how about this we would make fun of the West Island for nearly identical reasons but
Starting point is 03:59:10 it isn't because the West Island is suburb mansions McMansions I hate people from the West Island Infinite McMansions and it's infinitely English
Starting point is 03:59:26 there's no French whatsoever and they're basically like outside the city they've distanced themselves lest any of the city filth get on them or anywhere near them they've removed their existence entirely
Starting point is 03:59:42 to the safe West Island is like a fucking coin flip as to whether or not they're a complete fucking piece of shit so Laval and the West Island are like they're not opposites but they're two sides of the same coin
Starting point is 03:59:58 yeah um boy fucking you work on the West Island buddy I'm sorry shout outs to Fairview Mall god bless it's the only thing I fucking hate that mall
Starting point is 04:00:14 it's the only thing you guys got going for you and if it wasn't there you would all just be fucking dead I don't know I fucking hate that mall because that mall always had shit at the EB games the other places didn't have a fucking way out to Fairview
Starting point is 04:00:30 also if you're a hyper dork like me and you're playing all the escape games you can get to then you have to make it up there to get to one of the special escape rooms they had that they had up there with the
Starting point is 04:00:46 Amaze series so you know there's that too but anyway you want a good bro you want some fucking good shit you want some trash burrows
Starting point is 04:01:02 like fucking Verdun and LaSalle and Villa Mart fuck those places too for complete opposite reasons it's fucking god poor shit and everyone there is grimy looking like you're supposed to
Starting point is 04:01:18 that's where I'm from fuck those places I'm from the fucking like just grimy asshole of the city fuck the entire orange line just the whole orange the whole orange line can go
Starting point is 04:01:34 Verdun's the real Montreal what's that? Mom Bouchard burned it down didn't pay the protection ah don't worry there's a dep on literally every corner at that four way stop and the other three paid their protection
Starting point is 04:01:52 so it's fine you can still go get some milk hey man could be worse you could be on blur and young you could be going down Dundas right now those are Toronto streets yeah
Starting point is 04:02:16 dude I grew up in Verdun my fucking kindergarten looked like a fucking prison I could point you out my fucking kindergarten school on fucking google maps I saw it just a couple weeks not a couple weeks ago a couple years ago
Starting point is 04:02:34 actually but it still looks like a fucking prison the high school asphalt yard the high school next to mine literally was a prison and then they converted it into a school
Starting point is 04:02:50 and the only way to get air into the classrooms that had no windows was a giant ventilator a fucking AC shaft and then when one day some kids figured out that you could sneak up to the central and throw sticks
Starting point is 04:03:06 in it until the fan stopped spinning there would be no air and everyone would have to evacuate school for the day blessed everyone suffocated because the the place had no windows I remember I remember
Starting point is 04:03:22 this is my favorite I remember when I first started going to college in fucking 2004 it was the time when I'd be going into Montreal all the time because I lived on the south shore I lived in the burbs off the island so I'm going into Montreal all the time
Starting point is 04:03:38 and my dad who's an old timer working man he'd be everywhere didn't have all sorts of shit he's like Patrick I want you to promise me that you'll never go down to the point I'm like
Starting point is 04:03:54 the point is don't you ever go to Point St. Charles don't get off at the Charle-Foy metro station you will die you will literally die and I'm like what are you talking about and he told me multiple stories
Starting point is 04:04:10 of him and his friends were just hanging out in the point and one of them just died yep okay fine so I'm in Seijep and
Starting point is 04:04:26 I think near the end of Seijep or right after Seijep you start working at the fucking QA place QA job is located in the point my friend that's where work is
Starting point is 04:04:42 got to work in the point that's where it is you want to get paid you want to live your life you go down to the point you walk that walk you fucking hit up center street and you go all the way down and you don't you keep going I remember talking to you I'm like is it still just as bad
Starting point is 04:04:58 and you were like yeah and then a couple years after that after you got used to it right and you had described to me that the bus that you took skips most of the trash oh yeah you can get past it
Starting point is 04:05:18 fast travel we wanted our fucking early non Canadian versions of rock band so we had to go hang out with Min cause Min could drive and had access to his parents car and Min was going to meet
Starting point is 04:05:34 us outside the Charleau metro station in the point but because it was early we had to meet him there like a two in the morning so you and I are standing in the middle of the point at 2am and we have not been there for five minutes
Starting point is 04:05:52 before this fucking crack head wanders out from wherever the orphan of cause if we want to have a good time which I don't even remember which one of us said it I think it was you you just said no we're good
Starting point is 04:06:10 and she just stumbled away rom the vacuous spider approached yeah and then Min pulled up and there was a real just tangent just strong feeling but we got to get the fuck out of here
Starting point is 04:06:26 let's drive let's drive let's go yep yep yep yep yep yep so that's what's going on in town but we stand here making fun of these places with their suburbs and their pretty houses
Starting point is 04:06:42 meh well anyway the problem with people from west mount sorry not west mount fucking west island the problem with people from west island is that they would lord over everyone else same thing same thing
Starting point is 04:07:00 same thing west mount west island same thing well yeah well west mounts all mansions west mounts all rich but those are but that's like mansions of the people who actually like lord over the underclass like those are the people with
Starting point is 04:07:16 the jobs and positions of power if you live in west mount you have power right and money and power if you live on the west island you have no power but you've got money that's what it is the distance allows you to stretch that
Starting point is 04:07:32 dollar to get yourself something real big and nice but you're far enough away that you don't have to handle the rest of it as it were so it's like I can't stand being in the west island
Starting point is 04:07:48 it feels like a fake location but at the same time the last time the second to last time I was in verdun was the time I was following behind that guy and his backpack fell open and what looked like fucking 10 pounds of weed fell out
Starting point is 04:08:04 on the street and I was right behind him and I called out to him but he had his headphones on and I was like well I'm not gonna run up to him and tap him on the fucking shoulder tell him
Starting point is 04:08:20 hey your shit ton of weed that's still illegal at this current time it fell out of your fucking bag and I'm not gonna pick I'm not gonna touch it why are you trying to fuck up the drop bro
Starting point is 04:08:36 so I just crossed the street and fucking pretend I didn't see it you're fucking up the drop that was not a drop no one's dropping like a giant fucking brick of weed on a fucking sidewalk in front of the game zone
Starting point is 04:08:54 that's bullshit you sure that wasn't the re-up you sure I'm fucking sure when drugs hit the street on Wellington I'm pretty sure that's the re-up no because there's too many people on Wellington that'll just pick it up
Starting point is 04:09:14 because Wellington's a fucking piece of shit street oh man I fucking love Wellington they tried to make it all look nice with those fucking all those lamps all those fancy lamps and some nice restaurants too
Starting point is 04:09:30 oh god it's still like you'll never convince me that that's not just like a fucking ghetto shit hole shout outs to blackstrap barbecue they got some fucking oh I fucking miss my old neighborhood that's my shit fucking trash
Starting point is 04:09:48 people with those fucking death trap staircases oh the spirals that only this city refuses to get rid of we got walk ups that are either either way too steep
Starting point is 04:10:04 once you get inside from the front door and you immediately are greeted with stairs at a death angle or spiral staircase outside that essentially becomes the frozen ice death trap
Starting point is 04:10:20 where if you walk underneath it you will get impaled on an icicle and if you try to rise above it it will surmount you it will defeat you they're that fucking just above sheet metal quality fucking metal that
Starting point is 04:10:36 like playground equipment would be made out of that's like smooth so it's slippery even in the summertime and then it just loves it and every once in a while awful death trap every once in a while you see some people trying
Starting point is 04:10:52 to save money on moving that are trying to lift some furniture up the spiral staircase and you just kind of stop and watch because you're like well they clearly didn't check the blood stains
Starting point is 04:11:08 on the ground around this zone to see the last 10 seconds so I guess there's not much we can do but watch you can okay so you can if you type in Montreal spiral staircase
Starting point is 04:11:24 you can absolutely see a ton of photos of these fucking nightmare things covered in fucking snow and ice and just how awful that oh my god just what the and like one of the
Starting point is 04:11:40 one of the things like why does Montreal have these horrible stairs it's ridiculous and they always vibrate they always shake they're always rickety they're one piece connected to the veranda or the balcony and
Starting point is 04:11:56 yeah that's the fucking that's that's Montreal that's specifically those neighborhoods of Montreal that's that's my earliest memories of living in the city is falling down those rickety ass ice covered stairs
Starting point is 04:12:12 so that I could go into the fucking lane behind my house and fucking throw like rocks at the speed bump that was there so that people didn't just kill the children by blasting down
Starting point is 04:12:28 the fucking road in the lanes that are technically streets yeah but again like that if you hit up fucking Verdun or the point and you or you hit up the plateau it's just that's what you're getting you're getting that architecture to
Starting point is 04:12:44 fucking hipsters now no but the spiral staircase is still a thing oh yeah it's still a thing you go up around the corner from um you walk you go down around the corner from um um
Starting point is 04:13:00 god fucking Prince Arthur those side streets parallel to Saint to Saint Laurent there's just a bunch of old architecture spiral staircase death traps waiting for you anyway
Starting point is 04:13:18 anyway so yeah I hope that answers the question of what the fuck is up with LaVal LaVal doesn't have those spiral staircases of death so it's not real it's not a real place LaVal has like one giant building called the
Starting point is 04:13:38 Recreotech and it's where they have uh mini golf rigolo golf uh laser tag and all sorts of other dead businesses and it's the only thing that high in the
Starting point is 04:13:54 entire area so you just you can see it from fucking miles away because everything else is just the same rooftop do you remember when they had the fucking metro extension and the LaVal extension
Starting point is 04:14:10 accidentally got dug like multiple kilometers so off target I was gonna say like they could have saved the west island by building a metro stop out there but they never did they never fucking did yeah meanwhile LaVal
Starting point is 04:14:26 was supposed to get one subway stop metro stop we call it we call the subway the metro here and one underground stop and they dug and they had this big multi year long like campaign and they were planning it out and then
Starting point is 04:14:42 we find out that oops they accidentally dug too far and their drilling and digging equipment happened to stop right underneath the mega mall in LaVal just happened to be right there
Starting point is 04:15:00 they accidentally dug for an extra eight months all the way to the bottom of the mega mall and went well I guess since it's already done we're gonna make two
Starting point is 04:15:16 stations then the mega mall that was owned by a local LaVal businessman who had been petitioning the government to have it extended to his mega mall for years somehow somehow that happened
Starting point is 04:15:32 Montmorency and de la Concorde out of nowhere just like that who would have thought who would have thought wild I mean dude this is the same city where like motherfuckers just went hey
Starting point is 04:15:50 how much does a parking ticket cost for being in this parking slot downtown per hour cool build an extension to my restaurant on top of all of these parking spots and just pay for the tickets all day
Starting point is 04:16:06 it's worth it and the city's like fuck it we'll take it you know like we'll take the income and then everyone follows fashion and goes as long as we have people coming out to eat at a certain
Starting point is 04:16:22 rate and we have a certain turnover on our business you will have no parking and we will extend our restaurants into the public space of the street and then they extend it backwards from the parking space edge to half the sidewalk
Starting point is 04:16:40 and then you're basically left with shoulder width to walk on the sidewalk because these businesses have fucking just taken the law to the extremes and no one's stopping them and that bar fucking sucks I mean the one that started it, yeah
Starting point is 04:16:56 the one that started it, that place sucks ass sports station the only reason it's popular is because it's like a fucking sports bar that shows the Habs game when the Habs game is on yeah but that's also the bar that's owned by the fucking evil lord of St. Catherine
Starting point is 04:17:12 that fucking owns every other business in the area that slowly took over and just basically there was one dive bar no not the dive bar there was the cock and bull that still had the last
Starting point is 04:17:28 video poker machine in all of downtown Montreal because you couldn't, video poker machines were banned so this one bar that was independently owned still had one because it was grandfathered in and then the owner of these
Starting point is 04:17:44 other rival bars down the street that was doing this whole fucking sidewalk thing I was talking about is like yo video poker makes a killing I want that fucking machine and they're like nah we're not selling it and the dude's like you know I don't think you understand
Starting point is 04:18:00 I want that machine and the independent owners are like nah it's not for sale and then the dude is like alright well I'm buying your business how about that and they're like we're not selling the business
Starting point is 04:18:16 and he's like I said I'm buying your business and he proceeds to buy the company that owns the building that the bar is in and then jacks up the rent on the actual
Starting point is 04:18:32 bar itself to the point where they can no longer afford it so they go fuck this guy and get their shit and say we're moving they buy another location for the bar they announce that
Starting point is 04:18:48 they're moving to this area in the same like a block down or whatever and get all their employees and staff together and go alright people who are all regulars this is where we'll be from now on the dude goes and buys that
Starting point is 04:19:04 building too before they even reopen they then announce after this point because they realize if they say anything they're fucked they then
Starting point is 04:19:20 get a third location and secretly move into it and do not tell anybody where it is until way later and then go alright here it is we announce where it is and they
Starting point is 04:19:36 basically create a huge from this asshole's ploys because he's that dracodian about it wild shit I really like the story ends that way because I like the cock and bull well now it's just the bull
Starting point is 04:19:54 because they left the cock behind huh? yeah it's a nice little bar it was very pleasant well that's enough Montreal lore for the day they ever do anything with that fucking burnt out lot next to the form
Starting point is 04:20:12 uh Fulberg or earlier no you remember you'd fucking you'd be walking the park Cabot Square and you'd get past yeah the Cabot Square would be on your right
Starting point is 04:20:28 and then you'd cross the street that would border the form and then there was some fucking bullshit that burned down and it was there the entire time we went to school okay hold on a second if you're standing on the corner of Atwater and St. Catherine
Starting point is 04:20:46 they totally turned it into that fucking fancy grocery store nevermind now I remember oh where the McDonald's used to be no no before that the hospital hmm not sure what you're describing it was on your left side oh a Donis
Starting point is 04:21:06 yeah yeah yeah yeah that's a Donis that's the grocery store now that took like 12 years yeah yeah yeah that was like a burnt out husk of a building for like 12 years in the middle of downtown it's you know god bless
Starting point is 04:21:22 wouldn't have it any other way you remember when the Omer de Serre closed down and became that horrible hobo pit uh the one which one on St. Catherine right next to the fucking LaSalle college
Starting point is 04:21:38 oh yeah yeah yeah well that area was already kind of like lost to the to the ethers but the Omer de Serre like closed down then it was the alley and then like the fucking stoop and then it became like the fucking hobo nightmare well because no but that was already there
Starting point is 04:21:54 it's just the business was kind of running amidst it but like that area connected to Cabot Square is where the secret crack then was so like the secret crack then very secret super secret well because what would happen is like the old hospital would basically
Starting point is 04:22:10 receive people that were coming off the native reserve reservations and they would come in to do checkups and then get on the bus and go back to the reservation um and then some people would decide fuck that that place sucks I want to stay here
Starting point is 04:22:26 so some native people would come in and then they would not get on the go they'd get checked up and then they'd not get on the bus to go back and then they'd stay in that square and like soon as they did that a bunch of fucking nefarious types had a whole system set up that were like
Starting point is 04:22:42 hey you need a place to stay come hang out over here it's right next door and that park right next to it between the park and the local mayor to sarah was the crack den so it would just be like we got a spot for you so much to ask because like
Starting point is 04:22:58 I remember being a little kid and my dad taking me to the children's hospital and I would play in that park habit square and chase the pigeons and it was great yep and then I went there and uh Seja and it became like scary
Starting point is 04:23:14 homeless people the park yep um and then they renovated it yep I don't know if you've been there since they renovated it there's been really nice now well there's been two renovations there was the first renovation which consisted of merely putting turning the lights on
Starting point is 04:23:30 the first renovation was like the trees are no longer overgrowing the the like benches and and lights and we've turned the lights on and then poke pokemon go helped to bring a lot of people
Starting point is 04:23:46 around to that area as well but then after and then they did a real renovation and cleared out the actual dirt and put in floors and turned the lights up real bright and they have a little mini shop there which I believe is actually
Starting point is 04:24:02 native owned but then by paving and turning the lights on they've essentially spread and just displaced the homeless population in that area and just kind of moved them elsewhere
Starting point is 04:24:18 so yeah it's funny because after that renovation I would go past there quite often and there would literally always be a cop car just sitting there yeah and that cop car was so that when the hobos
Starting point is 04:24:34 showed up they would literally just push them down the hill was like hey guys you didn't get the memo down at water yeah you didn't get the memo but you guys have to be down at water now yeah and they'd start getting
Starting point is 04:24:50 pushed down the fucking hill towards at water but then Seari is starting to clean up and so they'd start getting pushed further down towards the river and eventually I guess they're supposed to live in the aqueduct I don't know
Starting point is 04:25:06 well they recently cleared out the area on Notre Dame actually so like I don't know where the new spot is but they're kind of kiting the homeless throughout the city a little bit
Starting point is 04:25:22 it's not quite like the Los Angeles like skid row thing but it's like there is a kind of nomadic push that forces this group of units to relocate I swear to god
Starting point is 04:25:38 like there are a lot of shitty places in this city I don't think there was any shittier place in the entire city that I've ever had to be than where we used to have the office there was a guy fucking shooting heroin
Starting point is 04:25:56 on our steps one day when we came to record shit I've been through worse needle in the arm I've seen worse that was you know
Starting point is 04:26:12 that was part of it but yeah I wouldn't throw that on top of the list but you know get the fuck off my steps shooting drugs yeah probably
Starting point is 04:26:28 that'd be get the fuck out of here you probably should do that you probably shouldn't be there but uh yeah, no they're figuring it out right?
Starting point is 04:26:44 there's something happening I mean I think they did it's kind of weird because they tried the same thing with Barry Yukam which is the even bigger Hobo Central and
Starting point is 04:27:00 like they went in and put some fancy benches and decorations in the park and they kind of like spruced it up and it was really just kind of like oh cool thanks you just made the hobo central a little more fortified you just oh that area
Starting point is 04:27:16 you invested in the hobo block and now it's level 2 that whole zone is getting cleaned up with like napalm or nothing like now the capacity has increased
Starting point is 04:27:32 that's where you know that's where that fucking dude that runs his fucking nightmare like fake cancer scam likes to hang out what's that fucking thing growing on his chest why'd you give him armor guys
Starting point is 04:27:48 why did you why did you upgrade their class and give them armor now that's anyway I fucking love this another way you
Starting point is 04:29:00 you you you you

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