Castle Super Beast - CSB 110: Reclaim Your Slur At Burger King

Episode Date: March 9, 2021

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Notary Frun solemnity Music Music Music Music Music Hello. Good morning. Good afternoon. Good evening. How are you today, man? I'm doing good. Doing okay. Feeling ready to podcast?

All right. I'm sitting here just waiting for whatever bit you have ready. What bit are you talking about, dude? I think you need to chill. You seem to be on edge. You seem to be a little trepidatious and I don't know why you're trepidatious. I think you should just chill. I think we can just have a normal podcast. I'm encountering a certain level of trepidation. Can we just podcast or not? What's going on here? All right. Let's just podcast. How's your week? My week's fine. My week's good. I had lots of stuff going down. Clearly, you're sitting there a little bit concerned, but you have nothing to be concerned about. We can just have a normal episode. What's the problem? I could fucking hear it in your voice that there's a sub-bit

just sitting there ready to go. Are you fearful of when I am made more powerful? Is that what we're getting at? Oh, absolutely not. I actually... Okay. I was sitting there when I saw your fucking incredible tweet discovery about reclaiming words. I saw that... By the way, did you make that image of yourself like laughing with like the... No, no, someone just made that some time ago. Okay, because that's incredible. And I'm looking at this and like, man, he cannot be damaged in this way. It literally only makes him stronger. I mean, like when it gets to the point that someone is able to accurately write out the script for the opening five minutes of this episode, it's bad. And you have to have some level of soul left within you to say,

hey, now I can't be simply scripted out as an AI to like the 99th degree of accuracy. I have bad news for you then because we all can given enough time and knowledge. Well, listen, all right, as obvious and as predictable as it would be for me to sit here and ask you whether or not you think I am naturally intelligent and so on and so forth. It's just a little two on the nose, don't you think? It's a little too obvious. So I say forget all of that. All right, that was last night. That was literally yesterday. A bunch of people listening to this probably have no idea what we're even talking about. There's some shit going down on my Twitter. That's all. And yeah, we just moved on. It's good. There's some shit going down in point Charles about

posting Charles and point Claire as well, apparently, since that's where that lady is from. She's from point Claire. Apparently, she's from Westmount, dude. Not Westmount. West Island. Sorry, West Island. Yeah. Of course, she's from the West Island. Yeah. So that's what's going down. Of course. You know, but listen, we don't need to spend we don't need to spend undue amounts of time on on on these things, you know, we keep it moving over here. It's it's it's I think the bit is implied. I think it's implicit. I think the energy levels and the power in the air can be felt this morning. And I don't think we need to go into the predictable on it. I think we all just know and we keep it moving, you know, works for me.

Some bits just just just just explode and get inhaled and you just they just linger and there's calling attention to them actually like diminishes the power. Some bits are just best left in the air, you know. Yeah, if you are lost, the best thing you can do, I think is go check out my Twitter and and see what's exploding over there. This is a good this is a good way to advertise our social media because you're like, hey, don't understand what we're talking about. Why don't you go follow us on Twitter? That's the best I can say, you know. Yeah, no, there is definitely a scary degree of accuracy. When someone can write out a script, perhaps even generate a program that will be able to

write a script that will script an episode of this podcast, feed it a new story. And then just have it go here's what the conversation is going to sound like. That's not great. Legitimately love to see it's funny that you mentioned that because one of the one of the things I have to talk about this week is about the total failure of people's ability to predict my behavior this week, which I thought was interesting. Okay, but I would love to see one of those things where they feed a robot like the transcription of like a hundred episodes. They've already done it with the titles. The titles is one thing. But like, like the ones that generate scripts for like TV shows. Right. And just like,

see what kind of fucking stupid, stupid conversation a robot would create. Yeah. I mean, what it would need to do is they would need to have a text speech recognition system that creates a script of all existing episodes and then is able to distinguish between your voice and mine and is then able to create two distinct patterns based on subject matter and wording and then feed it all back. It can be done. We literally have the building blocks of speech recognition. We have the building blocks of pitch recognition. So you can identify me and you turning all those words into a generated script. And then we have text to speech to spit it back out. And then we have text to speech that sounds like people and there's enough data on us over

the years like this literally does exist and could happen. Next bot, as someone said, it probably be faster to transcribe it but transcribing these podcasts is a total fucking pain in the ass and waste of your time and life. But then again, so is listening. So ha. Anyway. Hello. Hello. Happy International Women's Day. You want to start there? Yeah, fuck it. Okay. I have to say, I, I have to applaud the, the height, the absolute fucking height of cynicism has fucking totally worked a hundred percent beyond all expectation. Black people should be picking cotton on their farms that they own as business owners that are a part of this new economy. In fact,

the cotton industry has grown quite a bit and the industry would benefit from lots of black-owned businesses stepping into that space. There's the sub bit. There it was. So to those of you who don't understand, we're talking about Twitter news today. Today is International Women's Day. It's March 8th, 2021. And everybody's talking about the fact that the Burger King UK account just types out full stop women belong in the kitchen, period. To follow it up with the tweet, if they want to, of course, yet only 20% of chefs are women. We're on a mission to change the gender ratio in the restaurant industry, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Now, I'm pretty sure the first thing everyone did in the replies on that was count out how many

remaining characters could have been used in that first tweet to go, your stupid joke would have worked in one tweet, but you separated it into two for maximum damage. Good job. Good job. That like that is so it like because the tweets blowing the absolute shit. Oh, you could totally have put it in. You still have like 15 characters left. It's so obvious that it was designed specifically to make you go, wait, what? Burger King hates women. I'm good. Oh, wait, okay. Oh, wow. Wow. Oh, look at that. And it's just like, oh, that's nice. I was like, I was like rolling my eyes at just this is the height of cynicism. This is literally clickbait. So, right? So here's the question. Which checkmarked brand

will post the same thing and today, only today, and then the second tweet will just be no really. Uh, Chick-fil-A? Maybe? Like, like who? Who will stand and die on that mountain just for the bit? Wendy's actually once told. And then you do it for KFC. That their mom was a hoe. KFC does it. And then the third tweet is just the double down is coming back available now. So I think the absolute height of this and what caused me to stop rolling my eyes and realize that whoever is sitting behind that account doing their marketing thing is like a genius is that the, do you know who the first brand to clap back on this was? No.

It is KFC. Oh, it is KFC gaming. Yes, that's right. For the console. Yep. The chicken heating console posted a little meme of Colonel Sanders writing out the best time to delete this was immediately after posting it. The second best time is now. And like, haha. But the genius here, the genius is that Burger King is now arguing with them. So why would we delete a tweet that's drawing attention to a huge lack of female representation in our industry? We thought you'd be on board with this as well. We launched a scholarship to help you give more of our female employees the chance to pursue a culinary career. They managed to turn a world trending, getting the kitchen bitches and any dissent to that becomes why do you hate women?

Why do you, but we're trying to, we're trying to help. And like, it's fucking, it's unassailable. It's so fucking awful. The future we have entered of like brands with a voice that exists in the public conversation that then fights back and forth with each other is just like, I still haven't finished processing that that's where we live now, you know, and this is normal and it'll only go further from here. Like, oh, whenever it's a matter of time between like, they start calling each other for real names. Yeah, well, that's it, right? Especially like, that's what I'm saying is like, wherever the world goes from Twitter, because Twitter is going to last a long time. But when it eventually does move or switch forms into something else, the idea of brand people

talking to everyone will continue to exist. You know, if there was a fucking ready player one oasis, Colonel Sanders would be a sponsored character walking around the world saying bullshit and doing things and fighting the king from Burger King as he says horrible shit. You know, like it's just, it's here now. It's not just commercials and billboards. It's it's legitimately like throwing themselves into the middle of the public discourse, because that's just want that's our future. I just want the Wendy's Twitter account to call somebody a motherfucker. Like, I don't know why. Because Dave Thomas seemed like a nice enough guy and he gave the money to the orphans. But like, for some reason, Wendy's being like fuck off, bitch,

to like Arby's or some shit is just the funniest thing in the world to me. I mean, it again, I feel as if we're one where the ingredient we're missing is the mascots themselves voicing all of this. Like, it's unfortunate that like VR chat, for example, is not a bigger deal in the world, because little Wendy talking to, you know, Ronald starting shit in full form as they voice out their characters and do the bits and say all the things in this way is the only thing we're missing. No, I think there's like, there's one more thing that we're missing. And we'll never get to see it. But it's the fucking massive spreadsheet on all their computers. That is like, when you say the word fuck whopper sales go up by 12%.

Wow. I think I was looking I was looking at fucking, you know, Justin Wang. He recently he literally like walked by a Burger King today. And like people were lined up out the door. Because everybody talking about Burger King, fuck, we're talking about Burger King. We certainly are. I literally can't help it. It's too funny. And but it's also like, in the end, do you take that as a dub? Is that a win when they go, Hey, people are all talking about how dumb that tweet was. And we pretty much anticipated the blowback. But at the end of the day, if you're talking about it, Burger King is an institution. It's been in it's been around for years. It's not going anywhere. Like it sucks, man. Burger King fucking blows. It's not great burgers. No. But is it not just

at the point where simply discussing whatever their latest dumb shit on online is is effective? Simply because it's being discussed regardless. Like you're bigger than your than your take, your dumb take, you know, what is going to happen? Like fucking a fucking actor playing Colonel Sanders is going to go on Joe Rogan to explain to people that the fucking dinosaurs were chickens and that we're coming out with their new dinosaur burger. I mean, Whole Foods basically approached that. But oh, seriously? Yeah, the Whole Foods guy went on. But yeah, no, it's just it's also, as you said, it's like probably the worst tasting of the big name burger joints, in my opinion, at least the only the only place like I put Harveys and Burger King like all the way at the fucking

bottom. No, I disagree. But I don't want to I don't want to get into this fucking sponsored ass conversation to be honest. Okay, because this shit sucks. No, we have we have we have video games we have our own consumer fucking lifestyle to live over here. We certainly do. Not about not about burgers. It's about electronic products. Yeah. And besides, we should all be vegan. Like the teacher says. But anyway, I mean, probably they're getting they're getting better at that that meat printing shit. You see that? Apparently so. There's been advancements made. I saw something called nugs, which is like a meatless nugget that is apparently pretty solid. So who knows? That sounds that sounds pretty impressive. I'm more so interested in 3d printed

meat. I like that as an idea more. It's definitely getting into super weird future printing future mothership will create your meals, Jetson style, you know, for you or like have it in a pill almost form. But like 3d printed meat as a concept seems pretty interesting. I don't know what the events are. I'll eat a lab grown steak made out of poo. But but yeah, the the the debate on like, Oh, which of these burgers is best or whatever? It's like, there was one morning when like, for some reason, I don't know how I like the host, I think it's like hostess brand chip products or whatever. Like they have their mix of different chips and shit. And they have a like a value pack. And then they manage to somehow get it trending by by asking, Hey,

which of these flavors of chips is the best? And it became like a humongous trending conversation. And it was all sponsored and it was fucking gross. And I'm just like, this is I'm not I don't want to go down this road. So really, we're sponsored. Yeah. Yeah, totally. For sure. For the for the brief moments. Don't we talk about that shit later on in the podcast at the allotted time up until then, you know, it is what it is. Anyway, I fucking hate that that dude, our dystopia is fucking lame. I think that's I do expect the worst part of all this. I could have gone for it like, Oh, it's like it's so it's so lame. I don't know what I wanted, but like Jesus shit. It's so fucking boners. It's hate it.

We're supposed to have cool robot stuff. No, I don't know we weren't supposed to have cool robot stuff and blood sports. It was never it was never practical. The robot stuff was always like it's just cool to look at because it's like a mechanical version of a person. But at the end of the day, there's very there's there's scenarios where like as just the cool looking robot is the least practical thing in the world. What's cool is not practical. It's testing those robot dogs out in the streets. Sure. For surveillance or whatever. But because of all the Boston Dynamics videos, people are like, Oh, cute robot. Instead of is that a fucking police surveillance robot? Kill it. Anyway, it sucks. Yeah. No, we're heading we're heading for the looper future.

We're heading there. Oh, dude, the looper future sucks. We're heading. Oh, it's going to have glimpses of crazy futuristic technology mired in absolute like the fall never quite finishes. The fall just kind of continues to happen indefinitely as you feed your gas back into your muffler or other way around. Anyway, video games now. Hey, video game, you know, it's a good way to distract yourself from the incoming horrible dystopia playing video games. Sex is temporary. Video games are forever. Gaming is video games are forever. That's right. Yeah. What'd you do? Played some video game. Okay. Alright, so the two main ones that I played this week, one was actually sponsored by Quantic Dream. I couldn't believe that they reached out to me.

Excuse me. Something. Wait. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Can you discuss the the how on that? Yeah, real real easy. I I occasionally work with a third party PR company that goes, hey, we got this game company that's like they want to give you some money to stream a game. And I'm like, okay, what game? And they're like this game. And they're the guys that I got like Necromunda and like some of the focus on interactive stuff through. Could they possibly have known directly who this was going to Oh, fuck. No, absolutely. God damn. Then there we go. All right. No way. And Quantic Dream published but did not develop a game called Sea of Solitude that came out like a couple of years ago or whatever. But like they put out on the switch

and they wanted me to cover it. So let's see if they hit you with that retweet. That's how you'll know. I'll I'll cover it. Oh, they did not. And it is like a little I don't have to call it. It's like not like I guess the closest example would be like a journey. But like it's a little longer. And there's a little bit more to it. But it's very much like a wander around and jump around in a very, very pretty aesthetic kind of game. Well, like the story gets talked at you. Okay. Wouldn't quite call it a walking simulator because there is like like proper platforming and exploration. Did you see rhyme? But is it like rhyme? It is like rhyme. It's not as good as rhyme. Okay. It's sounds like what you're describing. Yeah, it's just straight up not as good as rhyme.

Okay, rhyme looked a lot better and was more interesting. The the main problem was see if solitude is that you load in and it's it's really weird like you're a crow person in an infinite ocean and you're like land your lantern on your boat provides all light and once you get away from it, it becomes crow person pitch black and nightmarish. Yeah, like like the crow person like you're all feathered and shit. And your your part. Thickness. What crow? She got that junk in the truck? No. All right. No, like a bird. Woolly. Yeah. That over effects booty. Hell yeah. All right. All right. Anyway, oh, you forgot. Yeah. You forgot 10 years ago. You forgot the shape and the size.

Okay, anyway. So right away, the first like the first thing that you encounter is like a floating golden perfect child that is very happy. And then you run into some giant turtle antagonist monster that starts screaming like you'll never be good enough and you'll you'll just hurt everybody and like oh okay this is what this game is. This game is about a trauma and characters are going to tell you their trauma and you're going to work past it and it's going to be a whole thing. And I kind of rolled my eyes a little bit. And then you get to the second sequence in which your character encounters like the bird form of your little brother who was like horribly bullied in school. And I don't think I have ever made I've ever played anything that made me so like legitimately

bummed out as going through that sequence. It is like an hour of platforming while listening to the like overheard descriptions of a kid getting bullied and I'm trying to tell the sister but the sister doesn't listen and him trying to play it off and all that shit and it's like whereas the game starts really heavy handed that stuff particularly as somebody who experienced like pretty severe bullying and like elementary and high school was dead on. So I'm seeing that the the studio Joe May Games received games for impact awards or nominations for Sea of Solitude. So it seems as if this was something that yeah it got so it got awards based on the subject matter you're describing.

Yeah it was like listening to it. It was like absolutely fucking dead on accurate and depressing like misery like caused misery in my fucking chest depressing. And one of the things that stood out to me was that I was obviously playing it on stream with a with a chat and I saw some folks go oh this is so overdone or this is so overplayed to which I would have to respond like no it's not this is actually dead on. If you are not the kind of person that experienced bullying or didn't know anybody who experienced like bullying like it's dead on and it's even on the tamer side like nobody is attempted to be murdered in the storyline here. It's just all like minor assaults and humiliation. And then you go on from that just feel bad hour to

the the parents relationship falling apart and the mother suffering from what I believe to be is depression and the dad wanting out of like the family entirely. So these are like arguing it feels like you're there like some friends parents are like having the fight that will end their marriage one room over. So but you're hearing this in the audio in the background while you're playing in the fictional world. Yeah it's it's two or three things either the the monster ishized version of the the character be it an octopus a giant bird or of chameleon or what have you is literally telling you or you're you're picking up like bottles which are like audio logs or they're arguing amongst each other or what have you or you're cleansing like these corruption points to

add more light back to the world and that will unlock like a scene that you will see played out in mimicry or stuff like that. So there's more to it than literally like just listening to the bad thing. There's actually a lot more gameplay in it that I was expecting like compared to say like a journey or like compared to like journey and limbo it's in the middle okay where there's like not as much puzzle solving or gameplay as like limbo but it's not like a run and jump and beautiful a thaw and like journey. But the takeaway that I had was that I have genuinely never felt like so fucking depressed playing anything. It is it is setting out exactly what it meant to do which I like I think the very first part of the game is kind of like a little too heavy-handed

but after that it like gets into it's it's groove but like it's it's fucking like miserable. Yeah well I mean I imagine like it is like it is a horrible horrible experience and it's a good it's a good one to pick on of like games don't have to be fun because this one is like the the fucking last game I would ever decide to sorry describe as fun. I mean I I would say that any game where like you know you have connection to the subject matter and you can see it being depicted in a like non-exaggerated form you know is going to like land in that way and yeah there's there's been there's been you know there's been examples of that over the years like I'm almost thinking of what was it called that dragon cancer

from oh yeah from some time ago or that dragon cancer exists to fuck you up or or have you feel even a smidgen of empathy for the parents who developed it who were in just like the most nightmare situation ever and I could see why quantic dream would have looked at this and decided they wanted to publish it because like the emotions but like actually for real like I did have emotions I almost feel like the game's art style like I don't know if you've seen it I did I looked at some screenshots it's very bright and colorful and the characters are like all anthropomorphized and like I didn't get what I thought I was gonna get looks like you know what I mean like it a lot of sailing too it seems yeah

like it is not what I thought I was gonna get overall I would probably not have played that game had I not been sponsored I'm glad I played it and I will never finish it because there is like literally more to the like parent storyline that I didn't see and then there's a ex-boyfriend storyline that I don't even want to fucking touch you know like just like you know what I'm fucking good I'm fine I'm good no thank you because this this like sucks to play and that has all the artistic value in the world and I don't care

well yeah like no I I get it you know I I think yeah no but it's it's it's cool when these games kind of these kind of games pop up in the end that exist um I mean I get if you're you're going again you're going through it I imagine and like yeah you're you're you're you're hearing it and then I'm sure that some some part of you is like you know just going back to those times and shit as you're playing it and it's not a pleasant experience overall to do that and I'm sure when you turn the game off it's still not a pleasant like thing to be like oh that's gone you know one of the things that that leaped out at me was that um one of the descriptions of bullying the kid has is he describes that uh he's trying to tell his sister that the other kids like

hid his backpack and he doesn't know where any of his stuff is and he's getting like ignored and I'm like oh cool that totally happened to me all the time kids would take my shit out of like out from under my desk when I wasn't looking and literally fucking toss it out the window and then I'd get in trouble for not having like my homework or like my books in the next class and when you go uh Mikey fucking threw it out the fucking window in English class you get like don't make excuses right and so it's like oh cool I have not thought about that in 20 fucking years I don't need this um and uh the parents getting divorced is like my parents relationship was really strong but like it's definitely hitting real enough that like anybody who ever heard

their parents have like a fucking shit down drag out fight is gonna be like very uncomfortable and then the relationship one later I assume is so fucked it's like there's probably something for everyone something for everybody to be fucking miserable and I think the the idea here like that like you know like a game that like wants to mean something will have a goal I think the goal is is that for and I saw it happen in real time in in in my chat where it's like people there are people whose parents never really fought there are people who who never got picked on in school or there are parents who sorry there are people who didn't really have like a fucked up breakup right you just got got but usually you encountered or at least knew somebody who went

through one of them and then you'll attach to that and then you'll be able to look at that and see that this game treated that subject correctly and then be able to look at the other topics which you might have thought were overdone and go oh shit is it really like that like like did people's parents really break up like that like holy fuck or you know is that you know it's it's like intended to generate empathy well again it's it is possible to overdo it on a lot of subjects like that and it is possible to take a heavy hand that is like not accurately you know like capturing the some of the feelings of those those types of it moments in your life so the fact that if they're if they can cover multiple and and do it fairly properly or at the very least each person that has been

related to that can can weigh in and go like yeah no that seems to pretty much be how it goes down that's a rare thing and also I feel like the nature of the stories that I guess like well it sounds like this is like again a meta thing where there's a real story happening and then there's the fictional world yeah it's clearly like an all a massive metaphor yeah um a lot of stories and games and movies we we you know absorb are a lot less meta more literal and also like the major focus of almost everything we we read play and watch is loss it's death that's pretty much the main exposure it's the main threat it's the main sadness and tragedy and all the stories we get into um so the things that are like that that are more subtle and like contextual to you know

childhood like in a modern environment is uh underexplored because it's relatively new hmm so yeah a good game I hate it I hate playing it fair uh I would like to remove it from my mind uh though uh you didn't feel emotions you felt emotions yeah uh congrats on creating a game that will likely successfully engender at least some empathy which is interesting I was just thinking about this because I saw people talking about Evangelion in that and uh what do you call it um the quantic dream games are the same way where they go we want to make you sad right Evangelion doesn't try and have you empathize with somebody's depression it tries to

make you depressed this game is sea of solitude again by the way sea of solitude is what it's called uh like Detroit doesn't want to make you think about what it would be like to be a robot it wants you to be sad that this robot was mean to well thank quantic dream oh what's the dev actually because they're the ones who actually yeah no I said it uh just now it was um joe something joe may games joe may games I have not played it but I imagine baba a yo is similar to this uh oh papa papa papa and yo oh pop in yo not pop in yo yeah that's that's fucking stupid no pop in yo yeah where it's like the game is like hey my dad fucking beat my ass and fuck me up you want to see a video game about it like you know what I bet it's a really good

game did you did you cross that over with baba as you yeah I did yeah okay sea of solitude dude so in total opposition to that I decided to play something this week out of spite which has usually worked really well for me uh and that was uh as we talked about earlier last week briefly where I was like I feel dumb that I can't build a good house at valheim if you remember that at all wolves that was like near the end of the podcast uh and then I went back in a valheim and played a made a slightly better house and was like good I made a better house but then I said you know what fuck this I'm gonna I'm gonna do that thing that I do like once or twice a year we're gonna dunk my fucking head into a genre that I don't know know about shit and like force

myself to learn and was it satisfactory it was satisfactory haha great name for that game really good like incredible name uh I went to the uh build a thing automation like category on steam and saw okay we got like we got like uh what do you call it uh we got factorial that's that's been out for a million years we got satisfactory we got uh I mean technically minecraft is in there right but the but you you dove in specifically because the nature of satisfactory is something you would not like yeah and and because it is so satisfactory is a factory building game yes are you and it is literally uh fucking like roller coaster tycoon but on the ground third person run around pipes and production lines and um like point your gun point your gun at a

location put the factory down create the conveyor belt yeah uh you I don't know where did you hear about it just by going to that list uh no I heard I have heard about it for a while it keeps showing up on my on my steam page as like hey look it's popular with your friends or um it showed up in my queue or what have you so I've seen it from the weirdest way like I've seen it in like random clip form from like um people that are like streamers that are debater people like debate streamers and like political online people and stuff will just go off on their their subject matter and just sometimes have a random a game just going in the background oh that is a that is a very weird way and like and I saw clips of it I saw satisfactory in that from like just while

people were talking just like going through and I saw some of that and I was like what the fuck is that you know um and that's where I that's where I heard about it so like my my initial frustration was like uh with valheim and that like I did not know how to architecture uh my way into a set into a haha a satisfactory thing so I figured I'll dive into this to which uh when I told people I was going to play satisfactory on stream I discovered like 50 tweets in a row from people going don't it will make you crazy you'll lose your shit your mind goblins will fucking lose your mind your OCD will be out of control yada yada so I dove in and within an hour or two I'm like sitting there literally pumping my fists yelling concrete concrete concrete as I've made a basic concrete

storage machine to create foundations to which I can pave over this disgusting fucking nature planet so it worked uh so it did work turns out OCD loves organization efficiency and automation who'd thought did you like city no this is kind of the part that's that I'm kind of lost on from a personal perspective okay um I like sim city and city builders themselves never did anything for me at all interesting like that whole genre literally that whole genre like did did nothing for me um and I think part of the reason is that one is the perspective shift it being in 3d first of all it looks incredible you like being on the ground as opposed to the god view I very much prefer being on the ground I agree I agree and that's cool there is a because you're on the

ground running around there is a different there's so in a sim game like a sim city it's like I mean everyone's played some city or city skylines or even sieve or what have you it's you're just you're choosing to build things based on your resources and your tech and yada yada with satisfactory the loop is very different and it's much more individually based because you have to literally go find the materials and they're scattered all over the fucking place and then build your minor or what have you and then you have to conveyor that belt that to the location that you chose for assembly and being able to like not physically but able to like see it and build it as well as build it up which you can't do in anything 2d or 2 and a half d like really helps and the game has

like the tutorial is called onboarding because when you decide if you want to start a new game and skip the the tutorial says skip onboarding which I thought was really funny but it has a really nice like escalation of complexity which I felt that many of the city builders of old like don't have like I felt like overwhelmed instantly the trailer for it has shots of impossibly large and complex spaghetti nightmare yes of pipes the official name for that is spaghetti future rama tubes zipping you around a insane hellscape of of production lines and and conveyor belts yeah and uh so that's what I saw and when I saw that I'm like well this seems intimidating and nightmarish right so let this like that that there's the there's the voice acted trailer where

they they show off like what I termed the spaghetti nightmare which is like a youtuber's uh like fucking attempt to like push the system to its limit and I looked at that one oh that's an intimidating fucking nightmare all right and that's the that was the tipping point for me like this one this is the one I'm going to try and despite that I have to really applaud that even though it's an early access game it's actual minute to minute progression and level of complexity is incredibly easy to manage because the very first things they put your ass on the ground and you can just explore and it's a big god damn like area like it's like a like I don't I don't it's like 25 30 kilometers squared oh yeah like it's an it's absolutely fucking gigantic

and your new game is like do you want to start in the desert do you want to start in the forest and stuff like that and I thought those were different planet types no they're literally just like starting zone and the very first thing is you're literally walking up to a mining deposit of of iron and hitting it with a with a stick to get iron out and then you make an auto miner but you gotta empty the auto miner by hand all right well then you can build a smelter and then okay the smelter will smelt it into ingots for you for for free as long as you apply it with power well the early power has to be fed like leaves and dirt and wood and shit because you I mean you have coal energy or hydroelectric jams or anything right are you sure in the early

game are you sure you don't enjoy minecraft I'm sure okay go on and I think we'll we'll get there and so your early game is literally just I need ingots to make into like rods or whatever the fuck so I'm gonna have the coal I'm gonna have the the miner feed the smelter which makes the ingots and then I'm gonna take the ingots and make them into rods personally and whenever the generator runs dry I'll run around and grab leaves and throw it into the generator right like it's like it's very simple and then okay we unlock a constructor so the constructor will be able to turn the ingots into rods by themselves oh that's cool and well okay but I also need I don't just need rods I also need plates which are both made from ingots so I'll

put a splitter on that conveyor belt and now the conveyor belt will feed both but now I need more power so now I'm gonna go get another generator and now and then and so on and so forth and so on and so forth and like eventually you're unlocking coal are you giving an objective power generation your objective is to build a fucking space elevator and send up certain high value parts for manufacture up to us up the space elevator so that I don't know what the total goal of that is but it's like the company that you're working for is like we want automated wiring we want so you're not just choosing what product you want to make and ship and send and all that shit like you are yeah there is a goal yeah yeah they're they're they're they're all the the basic difference

is that the items you send up for objectives um are not used for anything they're like they're they're they're crafted items that are there for progression worthless in game yeah okay worthless in game so uh eventually I get to the point where I'm blowing an entire evening just routing out this fucking complicated single mining uh device on a coal node and I'm like well and I run the math and I discover oh this can support eight coal generators which and the the things mining at 120 coal a second sorry a minute and the conveyor belts can only transport 60 a minute so I need to make a fast conveyor belt which then splits into four different ones which can feed into eight generators and then find a source of water and feed into that

and now I have 600 megawatts of power and what are your starting good your starting tools are a fucking stick and a screwdriver okay and then and the payload yeah okay uh you can create a hub and the hub is like your little crafting bench and you also get a dismantlement gun which is probably the part that makes the game work the strongest because the dismantlement gun is you literally point it at anything and hold down the button for half a second and it will dismantle it entirely and give you all of the materials back like that that num that single choice so you can you can like fortnight shit yeah the the that and the fact that resources are infinite like I found a pure I found a pure coal node

good this will now support eight generators forever once I completely perfectly automate it it will literally just run forever like I don't have to worry about running out of vespine fucking gas mm-hmm and it gets to the point where this has happened to me once and it will happen to me again where I look down at my factory and it's a fucking mess and you go I kind of want to fix this because it's a fucking mess and like I have fucking spaghetti everywhere mm-hmm but more than that I planned it wrong and what I thought a 600 by 600 foot grid would be enough for say all the iron smelting I need I actually need closer to like a square kilometer okay question to to feed this shit if I for example

don't have OCD about like how to arrange things and you just get it done in the messiest shittiest way possible is there any it'll work okay is there a lose condition no and that's the the reason why that particular game is so relaxing there are hostile wildlife and they can kill you but all they'll do is make you drop your items on your corpse you'll never run out of materials ever so there's nothing that can wreck your factory ultimately it's just time it's just time okay and once I once I got to a point where I had automated power production with coal I discovered like I was playing it I needed to

take a shit and I'm like oh I'll just leave it and go take a shit and I went I took a shit and I came back and I had more concrete uh rebar than I had when I left and then I'm like well I use this concrete rebar to build a a tube and then I built a tube um see I'm seeing I'm seeing it described as a clicker or like a almost you know fancy 3d clicker in all honesty probably my best comparison from a personal standpoint is this if you are a one-man scv building a terran base in starcraft yeah with no enemies to attack you right okay um it's incredibly relaxing and the amount of uh the the the current level of like progression is incredible because just when I was starting to get really frustrated with like my production and you know like the the mess

like oh I have unlocked the ability to build like walls so I can build like a vertical factory or right when I had um right when I had gotten to the point where I had completely like tapped out all the nodes within a one kilometer radius I'm like man I'm gonna have to go like two three kilometers away holy shit um I locked trucks which you can automate and so on and so forth so like right when something becomes a problem the solution you're given a goal to try and okay to solve it which will then give you a new problem uh okay and so with sin city uh sin city sim city um you didn't like the I guess like the the conditions of like your city has to run and the fail conditions that existed and the requirements that your city

needed pretty much I felt like I never felt like I was actually in control because there were a lot of outside effecting forces in those games right so like factorial is so then this is a ripoff of factorial like straight up and factorial is a ripoff of a minecraft mod that I believe is called feed the beast okay check that heading into that but added this type of ancient territory here yeah uh and like the factory and I'm not fat uh what do you call it feed the factories primary like difference is it's 3d and there's no threat okay like there's there's there's no threat there's nothing that can screw up my shit the only thing that can screw up my shit is my bad planning and for a long time your bad planning does result in some kind of failure and that failure is

a fucking sound effect that I have learned to hate which is the noise of the power turning off okay because eventually you hook up enough machines that you're going to overload your power grid and when you overload your power grid or you run out of juice there's this goddamn like noise yeah that doesn't have a location in game it plays as a raw sound effect no matter how far away you are from your fucking base that tells you yo your shit right I had a power dumb ass so if you were playing an urban planning game like sim city but it didn't have like let's say weather and um population control and like other fail conditions and it was just urban plan and populate with like a casual mode or traveling mode as as res would put it yeah that that would be fine

at well it would be fine but I would still not be as interested in it because I think the the number one thing and it's why I'm gonna check out factorial as well next week or this week is being a person on the ground changes the the context completely right okay um being god planning things is not nearly as fun as literally trying to figure it out from the floor mm-hmm yeah that is and like like walking through my big fucking mess of a factory currently and like jumping like platforming off my conveyor belts that are all over the place to get to the storage containers that I left things it's fucking cool I mean the the whole point of building a roller coaster tycoon roller coaster is to then ride it yeah but unfortunately

in the roller coaster tycoons you could never like really ride it you would just watch a you know a pixel person but they there were games that came along where you could first person that eventually oh were there yeah I'm pretty sure there were at some point there was I definitely saw you could custom build a roller coaster and then sit in it and then travel through it so uh so this this got me into a place where uh I'm going to be checking out like god I had a whole list like I'm going to go to Torio yeah you could also do that in thrillville which was a huge get out huge qa project back in the day oh fucking thrillville oh my friends tested that I mean that was a thrillville in years thrillville was in the office for a minute holy shit that name brings me

back fucking hell thrillville oh if you fight if you came in and you found out that you were on thrillville for the week something inside you just kind of died a little bit yeah I remember anyway anyway um okay but yeah I'm gonna be checking out like factorial uh rim world hard space ship breaker which I played about 10 minutes of that game seems really weird uh that is a spaceship dismantlement like blue collar salvage simulator uh these are these are fun subgenres though right like yeah you just have a job the world is an interesting world but your job is not an interesting job you know yeah like that stuff but it is interesting secretly that's the thing but you know to the to the heroes and adventurers of this world it wouldn't be that stuff's great

you know the the shop keep idea love that stuff oh did you ever play wrecker rest of tier uh no uh an item shop sale no uh that game's fucking great like running an item shop in a jrpg is fucking awesome yeah that was uh one of the concepts uh I think I came up with when we were playing um our our create create an anime game uh board game there like I just the idea of that and and I think there was a so yeah there's that and I want to see there was another game as well where you run a shop or something like that or so or maybe maybe I'm can maybe it's just the same thing but that stuff's cool I like that mm-hmm um it's funny because I got a bunch of friends of mine playing here right now uh and loop hero I've I fucked around with it and I don't care for it

and the weird thing is is that on a mechanical level loop hero is actually really similar to satisfactory because it is about throwing like you're a little 2d grid and your guy goes around a loop and you're basically designing the path that he goes down on by uh you know making monsters appear here or putting mountains there for buffs and I just can't find the appeal in it at all and I genuinely think it's just the perspective interesting like playing automated god without a controllable character just seems really boring to me like even though factorial has like external threats and like you can run out of resources so it's a bit more intense I'm much more interested in factorial because you're actually a dude on the

ground mm-hmm what if um there was a mid zone of like you are a dude on the ground but the ground is zoomed out and you're building buildings in a godlike way as you navigate I don't know yeah so where is what that would be and and and where is the limit of your like willingness to embrace the uh what was it tube nightmare or well how far are you are you do you go with it before you go this is fine leave it here I'm at I'm at 17 hours in and my current production is kind of fucked up looking because like I'm like oh I don't have enough room here I gotta just put a like a addition on the side and then I gotta put an addition here an addition here and like it's a fucking mess

right now it's it's it's a shithole and I'm probably gonna have to burn down the entire thing and start over like not a new game but like replacement because I just unlocked an upgrade which doubles the production out of literally every single like mining thing that I have and I just don't have any space right like I did it's one of those things where you know when you get a piece of advice and you think you're following it but you didn't because you didn't understand where that advice came from I was kind of giving the piece of advice to build production facilities as close to the resource as possible and I built them kind of close and then conveyor belted them away to some assemblers

in like a main base only to discover wait when I need to double or triple production I don't have anywhere to fucking put this shit I like there's there's fucking nowhere for it to go fuck I'm gonna have to clear out like kilometers of space and lay down like hundreds of panels of pavement in order to fucking operate this shit and now I'm looking at this and I'm like I should just build an assembly factory like a kilometer over can you all the way the fuck out there can you copy and paste large segments of structure no interesting no you have to do it all manually you have to do it one by one belt by belt okay

so if I wanted to make a like matrix like towering multi you know industrial again hellscape is the word that comes to mind yeah you can't make one that works and then copy it and and then connect all the wiring to it afterwards no you're doing it you're doing it a wall panel by wall panel okay and it's one of those things where uh like you can just place shit on the ground like it's no problem and then you learn a foundation which is basically just pavement or like raised pavement so you have a nice smooth surface and I couldn't quite understand why that was so important until it turns out when you have the raised pavement surface you can like there's a grid basis you can snap everything too

so it goes from throwing a bunch of factories on the ground and then they're kind of even but then you have to move them over to fit this conveyor belt in and all that shit to just like no they're these are these are literally 20 smelters sitting next to each other being felt fed by like an orderly split of conveyor belts that I didn't have to fuck around with elevation or you know what have you games great I'm I'm shocked at how much I'm enjoying it I I look forward to your Sistine Chapel of industry oh it's I don't think there's a way to make like I would have had to plan this out from the beginning to have made a Sistine Chapel and the game does have one problem and it is related to what you just asked which is

say I make something that really works and I just want to just copy it I can't and the reason why that sucks is that in order for me to completely clean sweep and make it a new it will take me like four hours to tear that shit down and put it back up block by block yeah for sure like like pulling it down is going to take a long fucking time and that's not that kind of sucks damn you so I'm seeing some folks say that factorial allows you to to copy and paste sections as a whole the the big difference it feels like that should be a an unlock you eventually get is send your automated machines to copy this structure here and you know spend your resources rebuilding it over here to increase efficiency because you because the point of these factories is you get more and

more macro as you expand it probably will be the reason there's there's a couple reasons for this one one uh factorial is finished mhm factorial is out of early access it's like like 1.1 it's it's done like so like many of these features just loaded in satisfactory is it like update four okay I think I want to say like next week uh the second of which is that because factorial is 2d it has no height so right right creating a grid of of manufacturing plants is simple because there's no z-axis to work with to to fuck around with uh with uh what do you call it with um satisfactory what you would have to do is you would have to put a foundation on one it's for that to work um but there is like you ever look at something and you can tell by

the next update that they're gonna keep updating it like massively like the next update for satisfactory that comes out next week is going to add like gases and I'm like what it's like oh there will be an entirely new type of resource that you'll be feeding in through gas pipes into various shit it's like okay so you're still adding fucking core resources let alone like what other mechanics but yeah I definitely agree that the ability to walk through your creation is a huge value add yeah to look up and be surrounded by it you know and then again like getting getting and traveling through it and shit like that like that's that's really cool there's also there's also another um there's a there's a part of this that I'm excited for

which I haven't gotten there yet uh and I'm taking it as an example from uh Mandalore's review of Vactorio itself um where he described it as a uh adeptus mecanicus moment it's a warhammer reference but there was a part for a second and it will be a larger second in the future where you look at it and you're like I don't know how this works anymore and that's kind of exciting okay where like you're looking at like the belt nightmare and you go why did I build that to go there what like why did why am I feeding screws into this one storage bin like why why did I do that and that passed after a few seconds because yeah that my my shit isn't too out of control that sounds just that just makes me think of the little big planet

calculator or the minecraft calculator or the minecraft pokemon emulator and shit like that yeah and like so I'm I'm kind of excited to get to a point where like I'm looking at like the my towering work and like it's outputting what I want but I'm like having trouble finding the input uh there's a lot to go for that game but like if I wanted a more complete experience in 2D yeah like Vectorio is literally right there and it's feature complete and like it's so weird the games are so similar that one of them is a blueprint for the other one

like and yet one of the ability to blueprint something and reproduce it automatically as you described that is a feature in Vectorio but Vectorio looks like Vectorio looks like it could have been made 20 years ago though yeah it looks a little old uh it's a it's a it's a very pleasing aesthetic when you actually get in there I played yeah no it looks when you zoom out it looks like a circuit board from looks like starcraft when you when you yeah when you see the whole shape of of what's being built interesting okay cool uh so yeah I've I've embarked on my fucking journey into the automation genre which I think is what it's actually automation slash base building and it's funny because I think back to starcraft and I think back to like

playing starcraft I I enjoyed making my base in starcraft a hell of a lot more than actually fighting other players hmm I would always want to build up a super huge base so I could make a million units it was fun but it wasn't more fun but it was it was quite fun and it was nice with Terran's to be able to relocate the buildings too do you remember uh do you remember when you you know as a Terran you like well you have to bunker up first because then you know they could surrush you right mm-hmm and it's like I don't care about that I just want to build five more barracks sure and then I want to build I want to get up to the ships get your science in a big of ships I also briefly played something called Dyson Sphere project which is another one of those

oh my god but it's like this but the name of that implies yeah yeah yeah okay it sure does interesting and it is it is this on a but it is more galactic scale like a galactic planetary scale okay that's cool you could probably go look up a trailer and see it and like I was just like profoundly repelled by its art like I hope it gets another art pass because it looks fucking jank conceptually that's rad though conceptually it is very rad and so I guess at the end of this I'm playing these games shout outs to Freeman John Dyson your name is attached to some cool shit bro yeah and I go back to the question that you asked which was are am I sure I don't like Minecraft and the answer is pretty sure because

all of these games are using Minecraft as like an inspiration uh this particular like factory genre is using a mod pack as an inspiration and like but Minecraft itself is like you're building things how do I put this building something so that it's aesthetically pleasing or cool is something I can't wrap my head around because I'm not I'm not uh I'm not practiced in building something to be cool building something for a specific purpose and it happens to end up being cool is something completely different well let me let you in on a secret efficiency is cool yeah once I made my my shit all look nice and like I though my proudest achievement in in satisfactory right now is my coal plants I got this fucking mess of of of of eight conveyor belts

snaking over like 600 feet to eight nicely placed coal plants and I have them rise up so the water tubes can go underneath for the water production and it looks great I can see it on the horizon of my main base it's really far away but you only need like a single power cable to connect it right um but if you told me like with the minecraft blocks or with the valheim wood cubes or whatever make a cool castle dude I don't know no make make an efficient castle that you enjoy because it's efficient and does its job nicely and in turn that becomes cool and then the fact that it's also tagged as creative is an afterthought but that doesn't matter it just happens to be what you're doing whether or not you want it to be or like it to be

the point is what you like about it is that it's efficient and I agree that gets rad so that's all that should matter yeah one of the things that like annoyed me early on was that uh and this is one of the nice little gameplay problems they give you to solve but like say you're producing something I don't know reinforced fucking plates right whatever well you need screws and iron plates for that but screws and iron plates are produced by the same machine but they're produced at different rates so I'm like okay do I need three plate producers for two for every one or two yeah yeah yeah right and they're and then you overclock you can overclock certain producers to have faster or slower ratios as well as the production and the speed of the conveyor belt that's going

so it's a whole little thing nice yeah um and I did some digging and I found I found something that I'm not going to use because I believe it is like genuinely cheating external calculator is an external production calculator yep there you go and it goes in the production calculator goes how many of these do you want to make a minute and you go oh okay 20 here's what you do right I want to make 20 of these a minute and then I take a screenshot of that production thing and I send it to you in discord and you can't even see it it's literally code oh yeah okay no absolutely just a string of icons connected to each other charlie's fucking dartboard sure sure yeah yeah yeah sure

cool uh yeah but yeah you're basically yeah you're basically getting into coding there at that point yeah I don't know minecraft I you know what I genuinely think might have something to do with it I might have gotten back into minecraft way back in the day if minecraft had any of this production shit in it like to start and it didn't look like a baby game like I know that like there's art style for children there's like more simplistic art styles and there's other all valid but like I genuinely think minecraft looks like fucking piss well I think minecraft was going more for the lego do what you want style uh end result so in that freedom it didn't necessarily like guide you towards automation and factory uh uh uh goals because

that's only one way to use those blocks you know and uh I believe that the uh mod packs and the mods that that turned minecraft into this shit uh came out years after I had already written off that game okay like ages ago like I remember when minecraft was still like in fucking alpha and literally all it was was like survive against creepers and shit and then build a little pretty house cool uh anything else watch the first episode season one of mando all right once you get there there's a great dragon yeah the pearl that's good that's what I was talking about the pearl for the fucking pearl the pearl yeah that also man what a great character callback without ever mentioning that character ever sure sure um we'll more to talk about when you get when you get there though

yeah that's this is one of those uh shows where little bits and pieces but when you get there build big stuff cool all right that's it for me if you want to check out some more shit on my channel you go to twitch.tv slash pat stairs at we play in fucking all sorts of shit this week I'm in a weird holding pattern because of the fucking disco elysium re-release me too how about you same like same I'm literally holding spots open with random shit because I don't know when it's coming out and I swear to god if they delay it yeah I'll be sad they said they said March whatever March 2021 you know TBD and as a result uh I've scheduled like a bunch of short things in between so you know Batman existing Arkham Asylum happening now um even to some degree

like jumping into Sekiro like all these little things to jump in and out are based on waiting for disco elysium to drop you know yeah I'm playing through like hitman one levels for funsies and I will drop that shit like a rock if fucking disco came out tomorrow yeah I won't but um but that's still what I'm waiting on and it's it's hard to plan a round day non-release date but regardless uh on Wednesday I'm gonna be doing uh all right fucking I won't tell you the days but uh I'm doing the heartspace ship breaker hitman mortal shell which came out and it's apparently pretty decent for darchel's clone been out and I think I'm I think I'm gonna finish Kotor 2 this week um man Kotor 2 has way more peaks and valleys than Kotor 1

like it has like some of the highest peaks and there are some fucking valleys 14 months like the back end of narsha da is fucking terrible and you played the HK factory right mm-hmm holy shit they cut that for a reason mm-hmm that shit is a slog but then kraya talks to you a bunch about the forest and you're like wow and then you get to check out ducks in yeah you know yeah yep year and two months rough and then not allowed to patch it um yeah so uh that's that's coming up that's you go cool that's over twitch.tv past stairs at did you um you didn't check out or watch WandaVision at any point

nope okay I finished that off and uh there's there's lots to discuss in the in the spoiler-ish territory but I won't spoil anything I'll just be talking uh around it so to keep it on the surface uh WandaVision is better than the previous Marvel TV iterations that we've seen it's better than the agents of shield stuff and it's better than the um the Netflix stuff we've established too tough with the agent of shield stuff no it's not um I would say that the early seasons of the of the Netflix stuff were a lot of them were fine were you know good dirt devil early Jessica Jones and her punisher was good but I didn't go I didn't see it yet first punisher is really good second punisher I did not hear good things about so the problem

with almost all of them ended up being that they just last too long in many cases seasons that build up towards less coherent storylines and less interesting you know things and no one has anything to say about defenders except for maybe the fact that Sigourney Weaver isn't it apparently or something yeah she's the villain so yeah um you know in the end uh I would say that these these characters the actors the the roles they play in the settings and stories um are best served in you know short looks if need be and the longer they lasted as TV tends to do the more they decay uh this this this is not the you've heard me talk about this before blah blah blah woolly takes anthologies etc but um in the end Wanda vision is a pretty fun first

season of a show that uh I really hope they don't plan on going to season nine with it I don't think they're gonna have a season two even well that would be great because the way that uh I've seen people talk about it is that it is literally like instead of a movie exploring this topic exactly this that's what it feels like but you never know um and and um for the since since those previous things we talked about like Daredevil universe and um agents of shield had to become their own canon this is not at all this is very obviously included in the mainline MCU stuff to the point where they're not afraid of like using film footage you know like they they do so expressly so um it's very involved and intertwined and as a result you know you want to just be like

okay so don't let that decay don't fall into the temptation you know uh I really hope that they they do it that way so you know they're gonna jump into um Loki and um what you're gonna call it like we said uh Falcon and and and Bucky next or whatever and yeah I think you can do something interesting as long as you treat one season as if it were a movie you know and then like you don't go back there unless you absolutely have a really good reason to or um there isn't someone better that we could be looking at because um you know this is this is a case where a lot of people are into it now and like it and Wanda and Vision in the age of Ultron movies ended up being you know uh cool editions but it was attached to the worst movie of the of the set so you kind of

you know overall didn't have them as like particularly cared about characters in the grand scheme of things um but much like we saw with like Guardians of the Galaxy and things like that a good depiction of these characters an interesting with an interesting script can make you care about someone that you otherwise don't care about so um you know the recognition doesn't needs to needs to be like suppressed and you need to realize that it's like no we can look at someone else and kind of write them up to be good and and uh the way this kind of goes there's definitely parts where you're like well that's where that's gonna go and here's this plot thread for that movie you know and like they make no here's the Doctor Strange part they make no uh

yeah no attempts to like hide where things are gonna lead and stuff but overall um enjoyable again that's the the it's it's the best of their their tv stuff and uh i would say it has some it has some weird problems that are like kind of there's a couple of moments that are like high budget immediately followed by low budget and you kind of just have to go oh like weird tv shit happening i guess um yeah we you know tv tv budgets are strange you know sometimes they'll save it up for like one episode or for a particular moment and then immediately in that same episode you see something that looks really shoddy um but uh so there's like there's one or two moments

like that uh but for the most part it looks pretty pretty fucking expensive and good um and then there's a couple of moments as well of like um again i want to say like like tv character kind of hijinks um you know you've got you've got a an a plot and a b plot and sometimes your b plot characters are snooping around and you know doing their their their getting into shenanigans getting into shenanigans and sometimes that involves punching out armed guards you know and you're like yeah all right fuck it sure you know or getting and and and and silly silly little like you're not solid snake what are we doing yeah all right fuck it um but yeah in the end uh check it out check it out you know and um so ups decent start to the tv to the tv world so far um some

wild uh there's some wild moments of moral grayness quote unquote oh yeah to be discussed yeah there's definitely some some absolute you know moral grayness some uh some attractive people doing some questionable things okay um but that's Wanda vision so far um also this week uh what else did i do yeah i continued playing nio one not much new to say there you know i'm just uh i'm just putting time in on samurai shit good samurai shit is good uh william the engine is the strongest coolest samurai and everyone in japan is super jealous of him and his skills very jealous wow you're so good with the fucking yokai dude how'd you get so good then he says i'm an unintelligible irish shit they're like wow

Tom cruise is the nio there it is uh i also jumped into some quick matches of guilty gear accent core plus rollback because why the fuck not and there's an event hub story that i hope you have in the in the docket this week about that so there's an update to the game that adds a fucking ball or ass feature oh yeah i saw it uh it's you the craziest feature ever it is it is getting close to the the features that i've been workshopping in my head that i want games i want fighting games to go in this direction so what they've added into the game is the ability to replay a match and then jump in at any point during the replay and take control of one of the two characters uh that is amazing because if there's a moment where someone does something

really tricky or are interesting and you want to figure out how to solve it you fucking take control and see if you can figure it out and test and rewind and test and rewind and you can lab these moments uh of of the game that are like yo that was really sick can you even block that you know do you have the ability to as you go in and figure out your yeah i saw i saw god i think was sejam playing it and he was fucking around with it and there's some bullshit situation that he found himself in he was like back dash no doesn't work no jump no crowds block no throw break no like just like 10 different variations until he found like some kind of neutral jump bullshit and then actually ding ding ding a light a light bulb goes off

and now you are a better player right it's just that simple um i talk about it a little more in depth and i me and reggie have a conversation elaborating on this idea but something i've just i've discussed you know is that like i want fighting games to uh combine existing technology to help people in in in ways that we're already seeing dispersed in games so my hypothetical perfect feature would be um you finish a match and then all the stats we talked about a couple weeks ago hey you did this this often hey you did that that often all right it tells you about those things but more importantly here's your three takeaways it shows you an instant replay of those moments happening and now you click that and go right into the moment and can test

the solution immediately you know and um upon completing it and learning what you can do to escape the situation you get that you get a cosmetic reward for your character you get some kind of cool thing maybe it's like your gi gets a little bit dirtier you get a little bit of a mark of experience you know yeah and if you don't just list it as like three words to click on but you show the exact moments and i was like you can even present you present this as a part of the game design imagine your character you lose and then you cut to your character stop thinking about those three moments in their head they're meditating and reflecting on that and then you pick one of them go into it and solve it and like as as you solve more and more of these

things for your character it's a little puzzle game that is making you a better player but offline in a just how did i get hit by that and how do i escape it context that's a puzzle that you can solve in and of itself and doing so makes you better like even even though you might not even be aware of it and like just kind of gamifying that to make the single player experience more rewarding upon losing so that the loss is like it's de-emphasized more importantly what can you learn from those three you know that'd be so wonderful um so roll back it'd be nice if Strive had it it would be amazing um but uh yeah so like now you can you can roll back your replays so to speak and and test out your your your your hypothesis on things and and and that's a fucking

cool ass feature we need you know um so that that came out uh i've been enjoying um uh accent chord for like a quick jump in and out kind of uh game it's been nice to really like i said easily play five matches play 10 matches and then jump back offline um you mentioned a story an event hubs uh story yeah about arcsus uh thinking about adding uh netcode uh roll back to their older to their older games yeah yeah yeah so so is that on the docket or it wasn't but they basically said they're looking at considering updating their older games to have netcode in them and everyone's like fucking dragon ball please it's the game that's it's the game that suffers the most without it um yeah i was i was talking to a friend of mine uh yesterday about it how dbz might be like the

game that is damaged the most by the netcode that i've played because free you hit dragon rush and you're supposed to be able to fucking nuke that on reaction but you can't yeah online now you literally you just can't now make no mistake right um uh the grand blue game is a newer game but it's a little bit slower altamax is fantastic there's blaze blue players out there i hear you guys you guys are all these are good ass games that would be amazing with rollback but that's not the point the point is that dragon ball is the fastest and most ridiculous of the games in terms of how the high how hyper it is thus it suffers the most from bad net play right it's like a marvel style game and the speed of more of of dragon ball like makes online like awful god awful for um what you need

to do at like mid and high level compared to any of those other games sam show has awful ass net code but sam show is a slower game so very slow it has but like the moments where it fucking matters the the the netcode will fail on you but like there's moments of like explosive quick reaction time moment but there's a lot of slowness so it doesn't suffer as much as a game that's really really quick you know um yeah dragon ball is also the most popular out of all of them right now certainly certainly um so yeah that's that's that's what they're talking about and we're we're going to see what arksis wants to do with that but it's nice to hear it's nice to hear that they're they're doing so um i was uh i was trying to find a similar story that made me laugh but i

couldn't find it but it was basically interviewing a bunch of pro smash and dvz players uh like the day or two after the strive beta uh finished and a lot of them were like so uh is accent core any good and more like just dropping smash and dropping dvz spoiler alert accent core is fantastic because suddenly being able to feel the difference like i imagine with smash especially the smash netcode is fucking terrible well so the slippy exists and and once you play slippy like fuck everything else oh yeah but i'm talking like smash ultimate ultimate yeah of course of course like just like oh going back to this huh fuck god damn it i mean i i said it in the episode when we had um uh a fizzy on but like the like when we played slippy on on get into fighting games

it felt like someone was on the couch with us like it felt local like perfect matches um anyway so uh did a little bit of that and then uh i uh i jumped on the uh level clear podcast actually uh with uh don pedro and tough and the crew and ellie um had a good time those dweebs uh that should be coming out a little bit later this week had a fun discussion but uh don reminded me actually that there was a game i i bought that i wanted to to jump into and i just i'd been waiting and i'd and i eventually like i'm like yeah fuck it let me boot this up and go in so last night i spent a couple hours going through something called fights in tight spaces oh i played that last night as well i forgot to talk about it

fights in tight spaces is super cool uh i don't like it i enjoy it a lot and it has a lot of the things that are uh my my my hallmarks i would say so here's one thing about it for starters the aesthetic uh is you're a silhouetted spy wearing a suit uh literally super hot it's more it's no no because you see details of their clothing on them it's different and uh that not only spoke to me but there's a little part of me that had a little like because it is very similar to one of my discarded ideas for hypothetical games that exist and that's fine yeah i'm i'm not i'm not that guy i'm not i don't live in the reality where i'm making my games but the silhouette on its own is one thing but you there's a very

important distinction between a plain super hot silhouette and one where certain articles of clothing are highlighted on the figure and certain details of the of the clothing and the shapes of their head and their hair and things like that they're wearing can be seen very important significance there um very stylish and cool uh the game itself is what it describes it is it is a generally about a four by four grid this is the average stage you are playing yeah they're pretty fucking small tight spaces you're playing as a a spy who is surrounded by a bunch of people and you basically are using cards and turn-based uh movement and gameplay to do the hallway fight scene from old boy so uh if you've seen the original old boy fuck the the the the the the remake um

you got that whole that tight ass hallway fight scene where you've got to slam people into walls leap over tables and reposition and slip between two people let them hit each other all that stuff is uh what you're kind of doing here it's it's uh there's a prologue that you can go up through the first stage uh for fights in tight spaces and then there's a an early access version of the full game um i spent most of my time playing the prologue uh which is good enough to get a feel for what this is going to be and so you basically uh you get a mission you know and then you go out to do it and then yeah you get dropped onto this grid uh so you'll get a deck of cards and each card is a movement action some of them are attacks some of them are um just steps or like repositioning

some of them are buffs and some of them are um options where you can do one or another you can attack or move for example right so you get the shuffled set of cards and then you you pick your movements uh the opponents are going to do the same type of things you see in uh into the breach or it was it leaped out at me when i was playing it i'm like oh man this is just like into the breach into the breach or um any other game where you have perfect information of what the attack is going to be so then you are now solving the puzzle right um bumbo as well uh comes to mind and uh i'm a humongous fan of like those turn-based perfect information puzzle style games you know i like i just they they they are there to me that's relaxing and fun you know um so you play your

cards and then uh you have for example someone with a gun that's going to shoot you as long as you're in their line of sight and then you have another dude who's going to swing his fist at you and and and kick you a block down or whatever so why don't you just grab the dude who's going to kick you and throw him in front of the dude who's going to shoot you and he'll shoot his butt exactly exactly right and then uh that might cause another chain reaction because um you can then step into the line of action of someone who will automatically have an attack or like you can down dudes you can block people like emerging uh uh vac in in into the breach emerging enemies is a similar thing here where new enemies are dropping into the into the grid you can block them for a moment

and delay their their turn it it was kind of wild to me like the into the breach is information display is on is there but then also go stand on the spot the dude's going to show up in is also there from into the breach uh there's some really cool like um usage of these attacks to where depending on the direction you're facing like there's there's versions of attacks that are like rear facing like the uh a kick backwards or a kick forward or a kick to the left or right to create a kind of a dynamic look to the fight and uh or like slamming someone's head contextually into a nearby object so if you have a wall splat for example um if there's a wall behind them they'll get you'll grab them by the head and slam them into it but if there's a table you'll hit

them into the table if there's another object you'll hit they'll interact with that there's a little bit of a punch laser system there um and sometimes if there's let's say an open window or a door you can kick someone out of and reposition them or shove them they'll go flying out of that and that person's dead you know so again similar to into the breach lava pit holes or like hazards and things like that you know um what's really great too is uh once the fight is done oh also as you play actions you build up a combo meter and uh the number of actions you can do is determined by your momentum meter so you have you have combo and you have momentum momentum goes down remember combo finisher uh combo finisher needed like three momentum exactly so some of the big i look up

there's a big roundhouse kick that you can do that requires you to do three uh actions first so you start a combo you hit three people and then when you're at at least three hits of the combo you do a big roundhouse kick and it'll knock the guy one block to the left into the site of the gunshot so that you know boom you hit him over he gets shot you know and then you keep moving uh and then it does something else that i really love that um i also want to see more games do and i talked about this when i was talking about um oof uh the name of the game escapes me right now but it's a real time game that like you pause time to do your fights almost like the way ff7 remake handles the fights where you can atb a little bit it's it was a mecha version any more details

i could probably look at a mecha version of that um oh i remember that you were in a city you had like three or four units uh phantom brigade phantom brigade there it is that's the one right i love love love love that type of stuff so in this um once the action is done this card game you're playing you get to replay the fight with all the cards and HUD removed and see it play out as a sequence and it's like you know there should be automatic i don't i don't yeah it should be 100 i agree my one of my things was once the remissions done the replay should automatically start playing don't even let me select it just let me watch it um agreed right of the one of one of the only things they didn't steal from super hot i don't mean that

pejoratively i mean it's it's clearly into the breach super hot which is a cool combination it should fucking play automatically it's it's like going to it's so silly but like going to hit the replay button myself just take some of the magic out of it yeah i want to just see what i did and and and show me it in a cinematic cool fight you know like like camera because like you get some dynamic angles when you're replaying it and stuff um you do definitely end up with super hot moments in terms of like you're surrounded by a group how the fuck do you get out you know uh you do end up with that energy in a turn-based card system uh and then in between missions there's events uh you can go to the gym to like level up your cards you can go to the hospital to heal

up your body or you can do an event that's kind of like um almost like events in uh road trip to canada death death death road to canada where it's like to canada yeah where it'll be like oh uh you suddenly woke up you and found yourself like in a hostage situation what do you do to escape do you pick a fight do you give up info do you do this or that and like whatever answer you pick will have a different percentage chance of a a reward or not or you know or even like um curio in in darkest dungeon you know different little scenarios happen that'll you know buff you up or or you know debuff you um and then you make your way towards the end and usually there'll be like a it seems like there's like a boss and then you'll have your best cards ideally will be able to handle

you know like though the waves of enemies coming at you and stuff so um yeah i thought it was really cool really cleanly executed fun concept uh it's an early access and um you know there's definitely like a little bit they can do to tighten up like in particular the um you can play what you play with a mouse or you can play with a game pad when you play with a game pad it's it's not fully implemented just yet like it does work fine but there's some menus that just like you have to switch back to the mouse for and things like that so yeah it's early the main reason i didn't like it there's a minor control foible i didn't like that like i wanted the ability to hit like space bar or something to end my turn like it's a little too mouse focused and not mouse and keyboard focused

i was on game i felt like it was okay and yeah i didn't even bother with game pad because i knew there was only like partially supported um i don't know man the into the breach like perfect information system is really cool but i don't like that combined with random cards uh yes yes this is so that was my first that was the thing that initially i was um uh uh concerned about too because i was like i don't have access to all of my moves what if the move i need for this turn like if i deliberately let myself get surrounded and then the next turn i don't have a card that lets me slip past enemies i'm fucked you know um i that is that is absolutely a thing and i think that um like when you do the tutorial it has kind of moments where it's like there'll be times

when it when you might be forced to take damage use your block to mitigate and things like that and i'm like but if i'm doing this perfectly i should be able to not get touched you know ideally because that's how it looks in the breach especially when you when you do a flawless run and i want to be able to do that here i think and i'm not 100 i have to like test and confirm but i think the solution in some ways to that is when you end your turn still holding unused cards they don't go into the discard pile they go i think they shuffle back into the next pull so um as you work through let's say your deck has about 20 cards in it or 15 it's not a huge deck um you the ones you spend go into discard and everything else you have

another chance of pulling them again so if you're particularly looking for a certain play you might want to save it and only spend that which you're willing to lose until you get through everything and then they reshuffle the whole deck again so you get a you get some control over what actions you want to preserve at what point during the fight i believe um but yes it's not quite the same as into the breach where you have full control on each turn it's weird because like i played slay the spire which is like deck building but also all the encounters are randomized and you don't have perfect information and i found that i find that i had no issue with that and i don't know why that is like i don't know what like i guess it's it's like the idea of like

having random enemies random stuff and then random like things come up in uh slay the spire like i'm doing the best i i can here right but when i have uh fight in tight spaces and like i know that i have a card that would perfectly solve this perfect solution but i just don't have it right now it's fucking it drove me crazy like i had a situation where all i wanted to do is throw a guy one space to the left and i would like oh man that would have been awesome but i couldn't i didn't have any cards that did it and so i was like muddling through and taking hits that i feel like if i had access to all my stuff i could have aced this encounter perfectly so you do get to customize your deck as well uh between matches uh and and uh you know

as you're leveling up you can go in and discard any cards that are like things you don't want a chance of drawing um yeah that's very similar to slay the spire yeah or you can increase your chances of pulling you know something that you do want um and something that i thought was really really uh clever i don't know if this was done elsewhere first but um there's a tax for example like there's someone that swings like a pipe and if you uh block all of the pipe damage like you use a block card and it gives you it gives you like armor for the next turn and you absorb all of that right if you have enough to absorb all the damage then you're good it's like nothing happens you continue playing as normal but if you did not have enough armor and it like let's say it does

eight damage you had six armor and it does two uh health against you you also take an injury card and now one of your cards in your deck is wasted being an injury card that you can't play this is really similar to slay the spire you should check out slay the spire okay okay so then you have a slot that you can't use because you're you have a bum leg or whatever yeah straight up uh do you have uh an android phone oh yeah uh no i have an iphone okay okay well i'm pretty sure slay the spire is that on steam too and yeah i don't know anything well i just i know that slay the slay the spire always like when i was playing it on the on the pc of some pan kind of just wish i had this on my phone fair enough and sure enough i'd like it's into the breach might be

the biggest wasted potential of a phone game i have ever seen i am baffled that never came to phones not too sure not too sure why uh it would have been with a decent ability to zoom in and select the tiles easily yes i agreed uh it's on switch it's on switch but that's about it uh but um switch in my pocket mm-hmm uh but again i i do say though that uh so slay this fight slay the spire from what i know though kind of emulates an rpg battle right um and yeah that to me is of is a different genre from perfect information puzzle oh no this like there are way more similarities than differences okay like because the mechanics of the actual deck are seem identical so it seems a bit more like uh because dark that sounds a bit more like darkest dungeon

in a way because i love darkest dungeon as well uh but darkest dungeon you don't know what the enemy is about to do but you know what their moveset is and it's going to be one of a couple things and you know when their turn is so you generally know what like you said you do your best you know what slay the spire does have perfect information the enemies tell you what they're going to do on their turn before they do them oh interesting okay cool cool all right um so yeah it actually is like like really similar so then the only thing we're talking about here is just the rpg battle system of your characters and the enemy characters versus a grid of positioning yeah yeah okay so you know still different to have a grid or not a grid but i either way but like i said i love darkest

dungeon and i and uh that that that's a different type of thing but it still is super cool um yeah uh i'll take a look but the the things i love about this in particular are just like yeah this line behind me is a bullet is about to whiz by my head and in front of me a big heavy is about to do a zangief larry it how do i shove the guy into into range so that you know or shove the boss into range so that he gets hit back by the larry it and then shot in the back and then i set that's easy you offer him a treat sure uh you can also do your little taunts and get them to walk two spaces towards you anyway but uh yeah you uh so i was able to set up some fun little plays like that where i you know i knock a guy in the in the way of another dude who shoves him forward

and then he gets shot in the head or some shit um or vaulting over a table um it's it's it's a stylish version of you know that genre and those things that i like and uh i need to see what kind of like high level cards they're they're gonna they're gonna roll out but at bare minimum you're getting these kind of like tech end move cards you know like a little like back elbow a little quick fist a step that punches from two uh tiles away and little things like that and you but you also if your deck is balanced enough have enough like movement cards plus an emergency movement card which i thought is pretty cool there's a there's a card that can be like you'll hold it'll always take a slot in your deck and it will um be a movement that you can use and then discard

once and i think uh that is kind of like almost like the undo button in and uh into the breach where if you fuck up you can just take a step out of the way of whatever you did for zero cost but you only get one per match you know yeah um fights in tight spaces uh take a look the prologue is cool the the prologue is free and then the the full version is uh early access yeah i just wish i don't know there's something about it that i i felt how to put it maybe it's because of the positioning but i felt consistently frustrated that i did not have the moves that i wanted yeah that was bad luck customize your deck put put the cards you want more often delete the cards you end up never using

and then use your money to upgrade your favorite cards so that they are free to use oh man this is just just slow to aspire or even i did not oh i didn't get far enough to see the upgrade card mechanic yeah upgrade them so that they're either free to use or so that they keep your momentum uh or your your uh combo meter going when you use them because like every time you attack you build a combo meter but if you move instead of attack you lose a little bit of combo so you can upgrade cards to maintain them and things like that um it could be done i'm there's a version of this game that is just a like list of of actions like an fs like a like a final fantasy battle menu you know

that would play out a lot differently um i i i think the card the card game is in there to kind of like allow for like a a a lot of customization to the type of character that you know you can play as but like it would have worked either way it could have gone either way on it um so yeah that's tight tights and fight spaces that's that's different no that's wrestling that's a whole different thing yes exactly um that's shitty explosions not going off at aew what pyro pyro failures is always just oh it's so good i mean shout outs to you know jr and the professionals for trying to keep the storyline elements of it going but uh it was that was a really fun they checked that out if you haven't seen a little clip of those an aw event where

and then a couple of fizzy light fireworks went off you know and then the dude in the ring like they literally go like man kenny omegas like one of the greatest of all time but he makes a shitty exploding ring and uh then someone posted like for comparison here's a new japan exploding ring and it fucking looks like a fire hazard like the whole arena fills up with smoke insane insane um anyway yeah fights in tight spaces uh is the name of it um and then yeah uh beyond that over on on the channel i started arkham asylum i ultimately decided to go with the uh original version having watched a couple of side by side videos i noticed that uh the dramatic lighting changes between the two overall the characters with uh more drastic shadows on them

looked better in the original however there are environments that look like dog shit in the original now because it's fucking 2009 and anyone who's not a main character also looks like dog shit i i absolutely can't stand when uh a remaster up a port you know whatever you call it right comes out and you're left with a situation where you're on like a fucking scale trying to figure out which one is the better one yeah it's like the new one should be the better one yep like period like maybe it didn't do this one effect quite as well or this one but like they changed whole scenes with the lighting in that in the re-release there's there's there's areas where like you know like the beginning walk and talk with the joker for example literally the intro to the game

the hallway that you're in looks way better with the new lighting and the guards that have like kind of like the football grid on their faces on their face masks yeah look way better in the remake like there's that much more attention but then you cut over to like uh you know batman walking next to gordon and like they're all really bright and they don't have any of that like high contrast shadow on them and it's like damn well that looks bad you know so it fucking weird it's i mean here's the thing um i feel like if the pc version uh of like of the of the remaster was a thing then modders could have went in and fixed this yeah but it absolutely it's not a thing so you're stuck with what you got

um other jank includes uh the fizz x uh option that you get to turn on where it's like it the it fucking recommends like a gtx fucking putt putt whatever 2009 card and and um and i'm and then i switch i switch it on and it's like hey man you don't have this kind of video car like are you sure you can handle it you might not meet the required and i'm like like literally how cute it is and then it's like no it's it's it the game crashed in the intro fucking with the fizz x on so i had to literally go back and turn it off because it's like hey do you have a gtx 250 or whatever it was asking for like that might have been the biggest scam to ever hit graphics card ever which is like a separate video card just for physics that's like and then they

discontinued the api so it's like it's not even fucking forward supported yep like that shit is gone so yeah yeah no just uh uh fuck your super card uh this is still not gonna work almost like crisis you know just built almost built different anyway so we turn the physics off and continue to play and uh yeah it's batman arkham asylum and um you're fighting enemies in that um assassins creed sticky attack style you know well actually it became the batman combat right after that right um and and and i know that this is what every like this i brought that up in the in the recording but this is what you guys have been calling batman combat you know for a long time um since 2009 as creed did it first batman just did it better right um no the reason why

we called it batman instead of assassins creed is because batman's button layout was just hard stolen by every other thing um the assassin's creed combat was really stilted and often singular strikes didn't actually do that much damage and assassin's creed actually kind of ripped off batman a little bit the the number one thing was hit hit the x button on the x box to attack in any direction and y is the counter button the number one thing that defined batman combat by every game that ripped it off was why is a counter button why is not an instant kill and when you achieve a certain level of combo you hit two buttons to kill or to take out or to take down and like everything uses that like exact button layout um spiderman and susheema also

kind of i can see where the uh yeah like years later we're seeing the the thing that's more distinct is distinct than that though like those did the button layout is one thing but to me what's the most distinct about this style of combat is the sticky auto softlock yeah um that's the most defining feature like if you start attacking you're not just going to attack the air you're going to attack the closest enemy to you and you can tilt the stick and you're only going to swing at enemies that are around you you know and if nothing's there then it'll like it'll just whiff but like a weird looking punch at nothing exactly right and this brings me to um what i think is probably the biggest old game jank aspect of it so far the bosses

and the big boys are not a part of that auto lock system so you have to run around and swing at them in the ugly wiffy shitty feeling version of the combat um and it's not good most of the bosses in that just don't fit into that combat system at all at all like that combat system was made for goons it feels almost like how in shadow of the colossus wander can swing his sword but it's a pointless attack and it feels as if like you know like the whole system is designed for scaling crawling hanging onto a colossus and stabbing its weak point but what if we put in occasional moments where you do have to swing your sword and it's like but this swing sucks it's not meant to do anything and it's like yeah but now we have someone that you actually have to

use it on and it's like ooh yeah like like the i think the best boss fight in the entire series is mr freese in arkham city and you don't fight him at all okay it's it's it's it's a stealth mission where like you know you do the the the gargoyle takedown or you do the the great takedown and stuff like that and the whole fight is that you have to hit him like eight times or whatever it is but you only get one of each because every time you hit him with one he won't fall for it the next time okay and it's like okay that's a boss fight that uses the game's mechanics well that sounds really cool i'm i'm reminding myself of like the bane boss fight that's the one i'm thinking of yet oh man it's fucking terrible it's literally just the goddamn toro toro fucking beat on the

bull when he runs into the wall shit and it wouldn't have been as rough if he was again treated like the way grunts are but he's not and you are swinging in a really ugly slow manner and those things have to connect with him so it's not it's not great um woolly these games are great but i'm gonna be very real with you the boss fights are only gonna get worse from here and if you're thinking that they're gonna pull it out and make a really great final boss fight fucking dash that hope right now so human revolution fucking got it set up your expectations for a fucking terrible final boss fight in almost every game okay well what you just described of mr free sounded cool um it's it's dead center in the it's halfway through the second game it's the absolute middle

point all right well don't you don't know you don't have to break down any more than that but oh man those human revolution boss fights were fucking terrible oh my god um redone more versions were real bad so that's that's that's probably the biggest glaring flaw uh i would say um it also seems like uh the answer to almost everything so far is batarang like every oh yeah every every puzzle like a ninja star yeah but it's like no but that's the batman gadget though it's batarang plus batarang upgrades you know um we'll see if other batman gadgets come into play but right now i'm just throwing ninja stars out of people each game gets more uh batman upgrades and i think i think oh man i'm watching more of the spain boss fight where they literally just

dump like ten goons into the fucking room because like the combat system just literally doesn't work at all without people target enemies um i'm also a bit like confused and interested in seeing where this lore stuff is going because uh mark hamels obviously killing it throughout the entire game just fucking yelling at you uh riddlers being an annoying fucking you know talking shit dude about the puzzles and oh there's a whole lot of those um i should talk to you about the riddler challenges oh so yeah i know you i think you already did um there are feathers in ascree too right no uh well in in in rid in batman arkham silan uh the riddler challenges are really good um there's a lot that are like uh you know figure out what location he's talking about or go and then goes

yeah location well one of them was a shank ass fucking like there's a radio but if you don't stare at it from the perfect distance at the perfect zoom yeah it doesn't trigger and i'm like all right it's a little old we get it i want to say that in arkham asylum there were like 100 255 i've been told in asylum i've been told high um but 255 really huh um each game fucking just kicked it up like city and city and fucking uh what do you call it night have like 400 i think and it's like it's it's oh god 400 in city and 1000 in night yeah that sounds exhausting yeah it's like in arkham

asylum i did it and it was it was cool and i liked it and fucking everything after that was just like it was literally they made a big wide open area and they didn't they were like well we have to put something in it so they put little riddler trophies everywhere everywhere and like in city and night more and more and more and more it becomes there's a trophy yeah so uh you know over the years obviously as this has been a thing that's been brought up by a lot of people it's highly anticipated da da da da enjoying it but uh you know a lot of people can't control their excitement for this game coming up again and in that um literally i've gotten like messages and emails sent to me about um like things to know and the this is just dumping at things

just too much in some cases and one of those first things i got was um about how the riddler stuff there's a lot of them and don't worry they're not a big deal you don't need to get them all and the and i already know what the reward is for getting them because uh i literally was told in that first thing right away this is what you get for doing it so it doesn't matter i literally forget what you get for doing it it's a video of him getting arrested apparently oh okay so you know that's definitely one of those things where it's like the doing is more interesting than the than the fucking reward well um what's what's more interesting than that is the actual little bits of arkham whatever thing you're finding

you know that are going to explain stuff and i'm curious about what this whole like oh the whatever the john arkham or whoever the fuck that the the the old man is and what all that turns into i'm curious because as an outsider to this franchise it's been very weird watching what to me has always just been yeah that's the looney bin where they lock everyone up and it's for supervillains and that's the place and then it has a recurring role in the way that you know i don't know like the falcones have a recurring role or whatever but sure um over the course of these games and over the fact that like the name arkham was on the first one it when it was such a breakout hit it seems as if the word arkham has become a bigger more gravitas thing than it ever

was and it feels as if you're using it in contexts that never really would have applied you know like especially when you have to use the word that people recognize for the brand but you're going like all right there's an island it's kind of like rikers sure then there's city all right and now you're like it's not the dark night it's the arkham night and i'm like what are you even talking about anymore the the arkham night that's just the place where they put the bit like what you know so i don't know we'll have to get there but on the outside this is this is the confusing the naming of the arkham night stuff and everything about the arkham night character itself is like the most laughably forced and mismanaged shit sure steady ever did or then just the word origins and all that

stuff and it's like oh man like all i can see is damn that batman game was named arkham asylum because that's the name of the place and it makes perfect sense but then yeah it was so successful that the word arkham is now the brand so we have to find ways to keep using it and we have to make are the word arkham a bigger deal than it ever actually was is what it kind of feels like like happened country i genuinely feel like the plot of arkham city like became like more of it's like in arkham city you know you're running around like the new super gigantic city sized arkham and i genuinely feel like that that brand stuff affected the fact that it's like i kind of just wanted to roll around real girl gotham yeah i agree because the point of what you know people

are looking for here you want to be spider-man zipping around new york you want to be batman rolling around arkham you know this is what you're looking for um but yeah the marketing team saw that that word carried weight and then decided to just carry it and never let it go even though contextually it it only means this thing until proven otherwise i don't know you know maybe some of the more you're completely right it's actually super weird okay like you can you can feel them forcing the title of the game yeah like like outside of the first game it feels as if the word arkham should have been gotham yep but they were already got them city got them for all the shitty spinoffs gotham origins it it's much more you know like but the brand yeah

but the trademark yeah so either way i want to unlock those little like logs and see where that all goes you know i there's there's something in arkham night that i do want to bring up because it does factor into this discussion which is if we had if we're running around real ass gotham that means there'd be like regular people assumedly yes right um and so the in arkham night you are running around most of the actual city of gotham and their solution to that is the car right yes but running pedestrians over with the car can't happen because it's batman so you taste them the pedestrians so they're all gods but the you're running over goons you taste them but the it might be the you know in spider-man when you knock a guy off a building if you look carefully like

a spider web fires off him right in in arkham night it might be the most ridiculous solution to this like probably brand problem where like you're hitting you can run dudes over at like 110 miles an hour mm-hmm and they will rag doll into straight into a building mm-hmm but because you electrified them first it's not lethal because exactly taste it it's so absurd the car the tumblers aura has a taser a field on it that's that drops people before the physical contact it's fucking wild yeah like you can run the tire over their head and they're being constantly electrocuted and it's like well they're fine i taste them the tank is rubber i swear yeah um so that's all there and uh so somebody point out that recently you've entered into the never killed anyone

never killed anyone are channel yes yes yeah the heroes that are totally without a body count uh fantastic um i also uh um you know running into i got i found some weird ass bugs there's a part in the beginning right before the bane fight where you drop down on kidnapped gordon uh and you hit harley i saw that and it's fucking just didn't trigger the cutscene so now i'm standing in a room with an armed harley quinn but she has a grunt voice the wrong proportions and you punch her and then she attacks you and you can't take her down it was so fucking weird um yeah so that there's there's just some good old qa mischief to be found there uh not to mention of course that this is as well i would say the start of uh uh inexpensive cosplay pigtail harley

yeah sexy nurse harley so i'm like man all right it's totally the start like it went through the arkham series and then it made it to suicide squad at least at least the uh the jester outfit is on the profile on the pause screen you know yeah but uh yes the juggalette is here um and yeah like again like hamel is obviously just like handed the game itself on a silver platter it feels like he's carrying it every five ten minutes you know um so yeah so far so good there's moments that make me wish i was playing the remake but we've made our bed we're gonna sleep in it in the end uh it's yeah it's just it's this is this is what we've been handed you know and and and i to correct myself from earlier i remember i said um that the ps5 version of uh

didn't work of of the return to arkham shit and it turns out it does if you go through a couple of steps um such as like pre owning it on your on your your console but i can say this as someone who did not own it or rather i had it physically on ps4 um but my ps5 is discless so going to the store on ps5 searching for arkham does not yield uh the remake as anything you can buy and and use just like that uh it shows you the 2009 ps3 version that you can do through streaming ps now or whatever but you can't just go to the store and buy it uh furthermore uh if you go to your uh phone app and try to buy it that way it says you cannot do so um so you have to i think um it seems like the instructions were uh insert the disc uh uh to to let the the console recognize

the ownership i think and then you have to switch over to the ps5 like there's a couple of steps you have to take but for those of you who can't see me in video form i'm rolling my fucking eyes at this nonsense yeah so fucking it's dumb it's dumb but there's a way to do it and there's a tweet explaining how that you can follow uh but you can't just go to the store and buy it so um had that uh cracked open the first uh three four hours of like a dragon holy fuck holy fucking shit what a perfect game like each bond oh my dumbest mother god it's so good you will never see it's so so good everything we did in those first couple of hours has been flawless like i kind of i can feel the rest of the franchise getting ruined a little bit because i can't believe how well this this

all comes together um music every every track that plays was a banger uh the city on the new engine is amazing the the just the lighting and the physics and the walking around in first person throughout the city and blowing my brain out with nostalgia for walking around japan like you can absolutely simulate what it was like to go visit there um the uh fucking it's just itch bond is great he's hilarious he's fun he establishes his character very quickly and you get the deal the total opposite absolute peak himbo i think it for me it's the moment when he's like yelling at the the pecking duck sign for not yelling open sign and then no one there's no one there yeah and then and then uh the boss is like fucking all right relax and then he goes oh man all right

we'll get you next time and then a bunch of just some random people walk by with their new year's glasses on and just go ha ha they laugh at him acting silly and he just goes hey happy new year to some strangers the dude's like man yakuza don't laugh dude you know i was like oh shit okay it's not a particularly good yakuza yeah um pretty the the the the the waving at strangers part you know was just like all right got it got it you know um i the the moment that got clipped is just the one like second of what the fuck is this bread tech that they flexed on us where he bites into a delicious looking piece of bread and you see it tear dynamically with multiple shapes and and compress in his teeth it was it was wild it was absolutely wild i told you

um i don't know if you remember but last week before you did this i'm like watch out for that bread what a flex okay what a flex it's it i i spoke about it when i played it a while a long time ago originally and i i was like i think my initial thing is like it feels like they are showing off a fucking technical or animation thing yep because it yep and now that i beat in the game you that bread shit is yeah never used ever for sure it is only for that one shot they have a multi mesh 3d object that is like switching states dynamically to be like intact torn compressed crushed ripped and looked like real chewed food and it's it feels like they want you to just be in awe of the new engine we're on it's it's kind of crazy because

this is the third third game in that engine it was yakuza 6 and then judgment and then this and but eat the kawami too also so it's the fourth and yeah and in kawami too there's a part where they're pouring they're pouring wine into a glass and it's similarly impressive and the yakuza games aren't the the the most high budget in fact i'd say they're definitely not games um and like one of the it's like you're seeing like what might be the most impressive asset reuse ever in in terms of like kamurocho mm-hmm like like what 13 fucking games with same situations um but every now and then they decide to spend some fucking inordinate amount of time on some minor detail and it fucking shoots out at you one of the things is like pouring liquids

into glasses is always a plus mm-hmm where we have seen hundreds of games where pouring a liquid into a glass just has their engine just shit itself and doesn't know what to do mm-hmm mm-hmm um also i don't know if you remember what follows the bread scene but immediately after that scene it then cuts to him sleeping under the covers in his bed yeah you know so yeah they got it down they're showing you that they got it down um so all of that is incredible um and then they show you the low you know the low budget scenes cut scenes the times when it's like we don't have full animation but we're just static posing you know as our lines use the same animations we've been using since 2004 in some cases and now even those low budget cut scenes look good because they're

been filtered to look like these dream memory sequences you know to show you like uh uh the origins of the vishibhan and stuff like that um the rpg system is fantastic it's a really really good rpg it works so well from a team that is their first go at it mm-hmm and there's an aspect of like physical space that you do need to be aware of like i went to attack a dude who was behind a brute and the brute like fucking hit me out of the way before i could make it behind him and i was like oh shit the walking around randomly does matter you know a little bit or like getting there in time to stop on somebody for a free hit you know um it it works it it fucking comes together you know and he's celebrating his level ups and then you see him literally doing it in the middle

of the street you know uh yeah i i just let me ask you uh uh you're you're being you're being sponsored to play like a dragon yes um and you're being sponsored you i think you said 13 hours about uh is that 13 hours on the clock or is that stop here what do you mean like are like is it like hey play of it for 13 hours or is it like get up to this point that should be about 13 hours uh it's on the clock but i'm going to stop at a natural conclusion okay i'm not gonna stop prior to a natural conclusion you're gonna you're gonna be in a fucking world of pain sitting on that shit oh for eight years i get it i get it but it's it's i'm not that worried about it we'll see we'll see what happens

but i i'm right now i'm floored with the quality and uh who knows you know what the future holds but i mean we do have to we have i have zero i'm working on zero this is what we're doing you know um so we started with the dub and the dub is excellent uh someone is not excellent you get called a cum stain like in the first 10 minutes or whatever uh she is wild um prosides is in there george takai there uh the localization for the the yakuza games has always been exemplary but once they started to dub them it's been like above and beyond and is probably the most impressive dub job in the entire game industry it's unbelievable the fact the fact that they got the lip syncing thing on on on point grace they also have a extraordinarily talented uh a localization

team that is now moving into dubbing right and they're aces they're they're they're injecting just the right amount of vernacular and like common common language and like you said like calling you a cum stain for example excuse me george takai on top of that they they even go so far as to have alternate sets of subtitles which is the the craziest if you're playing like i play judgment in dub titles and you get subtitles that are translating the intent and then if you play it dubbed you get closed captioning that describes the audio yep subtitles and dub titles it's perfect uh also the grunts and barks of the enemies are not translated so no the dudes you're punching out are still going hurrah you know way too much that'd be like holy shit get the

barks are still are still raw japanese um yeah yeah no uh johnny young bosh in there and then so that's working as well um and then like just that initial again flashback establishing these characters like um the the the bosses flashback i'm like getting drawn in like oh my fucking god like there's like a chest buster moment in the first hour you're he's banging on that locker and i'm just like oh like holy fuck oh my god it's so tense baby locker baby it's like it's it's this it's the same thing because like the husa games are the the most japanese games to ever exist and coin locker baby literally taught me that japan has its own form of dumpster baby i forgot unique type of dumpster baby existence of those things until like it happened i was

like what are they what are they what and it's like oh my god right yes they exist in japan all over the place oh man yeah that was wild um so yeah and then it pretty much you know just got through that little intro met met like one of the one of the the characters that appears to be uh someone that i'm going to be hanging out with for some time oh man it's really hilarious because like the the ignoring the fact that every japanese rpg spoils the entire party in the intro meeting characters in like a dragon is fucking goofballs in terms of joining up because they all are people that stand out with huge primary colors okay like each they don't look like a pc the second guy is blue the third guy is gree you know

etc the party uh and and so on and so forth yeah um so you met adachi uh i met i met the the lewulong old cop yeah that's adachi um any laugh to your haircut yep yeah what a dick man fucking 18 goddamn years and you're doing the best you can and you don't even have a fucking night's rest on on a night on a real bed and this dude is laughing at what a piece of shit anyway so uh i'm not i'm not sure if you're familiar but the voice actor for uh adachi in japanese is the guy who does uh soldier and wham okay um um and it's weird because wait wait hold on hold on hold on sorry sorry in japanese acceo it's in japanese it's acceo yeah right yeah okay yes i saw someone say that yes uh it's it's weird because it makes him sound way cooler

tough tough guy cop yeah for sure batto there's there's a there's a really bizarre thing going on with um these characters in that like you're the my perception of them changes a little bit like the guy who voices a character you run into later uh was the live action actor who played hiti eki anno in uh a fucking adaptation of like his life in a movie oh wow oh wow he like that guy you're gonna run into him and you're like yeah he looks like ono okay yeah no if if if the if the the if this cop dude was voiced by uh fucking batto then i would have different feelings about him certainly uh but at the at the very least in the england in the english everyone's uh the entire cast in english has been incredible so far but i'm gonna be i'm gonna be switching over to hear

both you know um for sure uh i believe isn't he isn't he sojiro in english i would not know i think i think he's uh i think he's that guy um uh papineer sojiro uh but yeah anyway it ends up it ends up being just wildly good and uh the funny thing too is because i'm playing it with v and he's in the middle of um i think he was playing like four or three like i forget which one he's on but like he's new on this too and he's just like yeah this makes it rough to go back to some of those older ones then it is it is crazy leaps and bounds it's it's it's it's kind of a new version of like what i would call the atlas problem you know like being able to choose your skills and demon fusion should like that yep absolutely modern the only one genuinely the only one that's like really like

feels impossible to go back to is one because it's a different genre entirely the side the side quests in one aren't fun they're serious okay they're almost all kind of serious okay and like 80 percent of them are variations of i bumped into you you broke my arm scam shit okay the humor the real zany ass humor started with like two kiwami undoes that though right no really wow they kept that the same okay yeah so like um like one and kawami one are skippable but i would say watch all the cut scenes because the cut scenes in kawami one are still killer but like the actual game itself i mean just the the the the tonal dissonance between what you're describing and kiryu walking up to a radio and then the radio guy is like hey it's me you know like it's like

when it does the moriocho radio kai harata thing and then he's and then and then suddenly kiryu's like oh man oh these stories are interesting i should write my own and even you just get drawn into like the world of because of some dumb like four coma you know strip or whatever it's like yeah i i kind of feel like that humor and shit not being there would make a lot of those side quests possibly intolerable the main quest is there for all of that your serious needs but like helping random people over shit that like ends up not really mattering in the end like either make a profound statement about society or make me laugh but yeah that's it you know if if you're gonna go through kawami one i would say like mainline it as hard as you can

like the the side content in in kawami is just not it's not there but yeah so it was like impeccable so far and cannot wait to jump back in and i'll i'll i'll say too that um the ps5 version uh fucking loading is nothing i can't read the loading screens you know what i mean they just think they come and they fucking go um and then at one point just being like hey walk into that that burger joint cool now walk upstairs of the burger joint and it's like oh yeah indoor outdoor upstairs downstairs all of it it's it's loaded in it's it's active like interiors and exteriors are all just waiting for you to go check it out in seamless you know fucking

yeah experience so um wow wow with that um jumped back to seki roe uh having having fun with that i'm in it for the boss fights and uh i um have had two pretty rough and satisfying ones so far so a rough in the sense that like i was like oh shit that's a challenge over but uh did it again i was able to like i was playing on my own and then i decided to go back at some point and um yeah no i'm i'm i'm here for it i'm here to fucking get back to it and what i liked the most uh i remember at the time when i left off was like that lightning mechanic i was like damn you wait till this late to introduce it please make use of this and then the game is like oh no we will wait uh what you're talking about the fight with um

genichiro i can't remember genichiro yeah so that's not that's not late that's like a third through the game um but i mean it what i mean is it's only used with him on the on the and those encounters and then isn't that crazy but then when you get to the rooftop for the second time uh you have the option of like getting like the the the bad ending there but like after you continue on then you start fighting enemies that use it is what i'm saying so like the fact that only he has that and it's such a cool thing i'm like damn please make use of this more often that and then they do fight is just fucking a plus boss fight very cool it's very cool that yeah i'm glad you're going back to Sekiro because the one thing about like one of the things about Sekiro that stands out to me is

that out of all the from software games it ends incredibly well like the final 10 percent and the the the challenges you're running into in the final 10 percent are fucking excellent so i described you know but like when i when i booted it up and stuff but i'm like i said i'm in it for the boss fights and i was ripped back in seeing a soon he legend gift of some wild shit going down or i was like man that's so cool all right so cool and and straight up i i i give the credit there because it was it looked so cool with the lightning you know parry system and shit in it for that and you know i i i don't i don't want to you know piss on anyone's lemonade or whatever but i continue to really not enjoy the story i don't particularly care

about the events going on i didn't care for it either and i actively roll my eyes whenever a new ancient macguffin of some kind is introduced as a physical item be it ashes or a branch or a form of rice or some special ceremonial blade or some special this or that or what i i don't give a fuck anymore no i i i similarly didn't care for it um the it was like as i was going through it i kind of kept expecting it to like go somewhere really interesting yeah it doesn't know uh like but i went from being like displeased by the story to disliking it you know yeah uh with the with kuro and all that stuff um you know the tengu fucking got dude continues to be a badass owl is a badass guinichiro is a badass emma's fine you know um

but yeah i'm i'm here for these one view ones and they're they're they're brilliant you know so the only good part about that game story is that it does like the story mandates that you go to like two of the coolest locations i've ever seen in a game hmm right yeah the the area i mean to the the temple the monk temple area yeah mount sempo did that all i did that that was early on very very cool that centipede shit is fucking rad um and the area now where it's the temple with the underwater zone underneath it oh that's that's the other area i'm talking about yep that that area is fucking incredible gorgeous really really cool um and yeah so that that's that's nice um i'm i'm also like there's there's stuff about the flow of gameplay outside of

boss fights that i'm also not particularly enjoying like i i love zipping around the environments um you know stealthing is cool the fights are you know you you have that whole fucking just uh uh uh yeah no stamina you just go in and you try to off balance the person and stuff like that um the the idea of like fucking up and and and having to reset the the aggro situation is like it's kind of it's kind of lame when that occurs if it's like stealth your way through uh if you get caught i'd like fighting out of it but um sometimes it's not possible like if if it's just you're just fighting eight dudes you're not gonna make it out this way i'm also you know like pretty like like there's some rust that i had to get off and like i tried my best to

do so um i was again i was able to at least uh take on um uh the owl and the uh the true monk so far but uh anyway whatever i i mean look i i i don't i don't i don't mean to to you know go go on any more of that stuff in fact i i'm you're getting you're getting to the point where you're probably gonna want to ask somebody to help provide a ending guide for you i have it already i have it okay because there are unique boss fights to some of those yes and they are they are straight up the best things in the entire game right yeah um so i wanted to i first you know it's anyway i'd initially i was gonna go for that that like um the bad ending set and i have my save file on a usb stick then i decided i was gonna go for the normal ending and then min is is

recommending to just go for the pure one um i've already killed the snake so i have some of the requirements already so i'm just you know i'll take that right that recommendation in mind um the type of things required for these ending choices and the way this the game handles these endings is also the type of thing that i fucking loathe but it's it's it's funny i it sucks i hate that shit but page was playing dark souls 3 the other day and uh we got to the part where we got to the cathedral the deep and uh chat and i wanted to make sure she met patches and like got the the event where patches drops you into the giant area and it's it it became stupid obvious like just how fucking labyrinthine and absurd these these mechanics have become or it's like no don't go

that way no don't go up that elevator no don't do this area make sure to have this many souls on you when you get to this part and it's like all the quest lines in dark souls 3 were like that they were all completely absurd and had to get like this very specific sequence of events and then you get to uh bloodborne had the what do you call it the obelisk chords and then secarro secarro is like legitimately the most confusing and like lab like specific of how to get all the different endings and like i just like fucking stop it and also fuck your save file after you go down a road here you know like fucking stop it it sucks i hate it um because they want to have the thing where oh man i got a different ending oh that's cool wow but it's always actually well at the 80

mark in a from software game look up the ending guide online and get spoiled a little bit i guess so that you can actually see all the unique content well i remember i remember when i remember the document that we got with that initial uh promo thing with the with the press kit was like oh there was a soft ending guide in the review uh um document and it said don't do this for your review don't do this one specifically telling you what's up there because of how it's it's structured you know i i i i anyway i'm just like i've already been beaten into fucking submission with everything with arguing with people on my opinions on the game so i don't feel like going into further round twos and threes on any of this stuff but i there's a lot of shit i hate and there's a lot

there's a couple things i like and those things that i like are worth it for me so i'm going back through it to enjoy those things but i'm being reminded of what i i absolutely dislike a lot but that's not a problem it's fine we're gonna just go i have dank and if that's a shit take i'll take that that's fine it's i'm entitled to my feelings twitter news for all of you we hear we hear you we got the initial tweet wrong and we're sorry our aim was to draw attention that only 20 percent of professional stocks are women and to help change that by awarding culinary scholarships we will do better next time so this is after like one of their marketing guys was like arguing in the comments about how deleting it would just draw more attention

well that's what i'm saying is like are they gonna reply to kfc now and be like oh hey guess you were right yeah this this is bit shit this is absolutely massive 100 percent bitch back down like fuck you burger king you fuck you fucking cowards you fucking absolute cowards i foresee um in fact no we're already in a world where we got it wrong doesn't really mean anything anymore oh yeah no the phrasing we got part of the plan it could have been part of the plan literally literally don't even don't even write off that conspiracy anyway whatever um um poopoo on that shit to your burger who the uh thing i was gonna say uh in regards to sec hero um something else oh yes as you mentioned what was going on with um with page with uh dark

so yeah uh fucking uh reggie did the made in astrea fight and like to me that's my favorite part of the entire game right and i and i it's it's way up there and way up there you know but at the same time you definitely cannot be uh a fucking shitty like stare at face huh is he liking it is he let you can't do let people play the game you know um so all i did was i kind of went like hey um uh make sure to be alive when you go into that room because you can't he doesn't talk to you if you're not right and i'm like damn that's a that's a dumb thing but that's how it is and it's easy to miss some cool little bits about it you know but like yeah just make sure you're alive when you go in um but then like if you if you so i'm and i'm like all right it shouldn't be

it's not that it's not that tough of a thing in the end like you can kind of make it through but if you die and you fuck up world tendency then the selen vinlan quest is a little barred as well um yeah and so he went in and he makes a hard right and i'm just like oh no no no no no no no you have to go left you have to go left you know and um it doesn't right he'll fall to the pit and die for sure on his first try doesn't go according to plan you know and it's like okay there's a cinematic way for this to happen but only if you make the right random decision at the fork you know and the first time i beat astrea i shot her with arrows yeah sure you know um and and that's it like so anyway some weird

stuff goes down and i was just like oh man well um sub uh par experience with the coolness of what that fight is supposed to play out like when it's done right but there's so many ways it cannot go and it's a video game so that's that's what it's supposed to be at the end but damn if that's not the coolest moment not happening the same way for you you know um that i had to kind of like i went all right well now that we're done here i'll just explain what it was like when i went through it and here's why i like it so much you know but there's some from software does something that i do find like laudable in some ways where they are totally cool with players even tons of players missing out on a cool thing they put in the game right they're cool on you

missing a dialogue they're cool and you missing a quest they're cool on you like think of how many optional like really optional boss fights there are throughout the series there's a ton and you could easily just like let like think about like dark lurker in dark souls 2 and what a massive fucking like rigor maroll it was to even unlock the ability to fight that fucking thing right um but at the same time it doesn't feel really optional it doesn't feel like you're making a choice most of the time it feels like you didn't happen to turn the camera in a specific direction while walking through a specific area or dark souls one case you didn't think to hit a second illusory wall behind a chest and find the coolest area in the game like it's too much this is this

is it right it's like you can even if it is optional which it is some of your strongest memories of this game is that easily missable shit in this moment um i mean like it would think of i like if my fight with tarkis did not play out that way a massive spike of love i have in that game would have been completely different oh it's like one of the coolest things i've ever seen happen and it only happened to you i've never seen and that has cemented itself in my heart as something i am in love with about this game but it only happened in this way and finding out how many other ways it could have gone is weird considering how much of a highlight that was for me you know um and and and i mean i i'd similar to say about like bior and the penetrator where

like on the one hand i wish there was a way to like just go like here now fight him for real in a memory you know oh man bior and the penetrator is is like do you want a really tough boss fight or do you want to save this cool character who will just straight up win the fight for you unless you're like me on new game plus and you swing your uh dbs so hard that he aggros on you and then it becomes a 2v1 oopsie well that's that's quite difficult that's what happened and that's how i told i think i told you it's like then i had to do the sin payment and i paid 64k to uh to get forgiven but the sin payment system breaks the character so that he never travels ahead to the final area he stays well unaggroed but idle

in the penetrator room for the rest of the game anyway that's fucking so stupid super weird um seki roe is uh yeah that that's the the from soft thing there is it's rough when you're like man i yeah like you are robbing someone potentially of like you know something incredibly rad and the replay value certainly when you pick these games up like we're let's playing at the end of the day too you gotta remember like if you're going through it once on camera and such it's not the same as somebody who you know um is gonna have this and is gonna be like yo i'm going right back in but me personally in my own free time i'm not the type of person that would necessarily boot seki roe right back up and go through it again to do the bad ending or the good ending or get the alternate

oh yeah one of the reasons why i i used um i used the save file stuff is because i literally wanted to get all of them in like in one go yeah and then i ran i ran through uh i think new game plus to get to the bad end and then i had i had fought everything in the game once but i don't think i'm ever gonna go back seki roe i mean when i was doing smt4 like at least you have your save you know and it's not like in this case you have your save you can manipulate yourself yeah and not like have to upload to the fucking cloud or put on an external thing and hope that the system doesn't overwrite it because it's fighting you to do so because the game's design is to make it you know hey woolly yeah you know what you need to do you need to get fucking excited

for this goddamn labyrinthine nonsense being applied to an actual for real open world game in elden ring and it's like hey did you fucking go north before killing the tree lord guess what that all those orphans died and and they won't give you the moonlight greatsword as a result a strava killed himself because you ran past him except you ran like a city past him to the north yeah yeah um i mean you know maybe maybe there can be some sort of like bonfire control system of like spawning things out in a way but i what if there was a way to like pull away of the samurai or devil may cry report card for that matter and just check off you know like hey white world tendency events done black world

tendency events done neutral done now that's done report card says i did it yeah anyway um well uh that is uh that's what's going down for more of those games tune in check out woolly versus uh continuing this week with um yeah sekiro yak is a like a dragon and batman arkham asylum uh and then get into fighting games on saturday we took a look at the neo geopocket last week it was pretty fun played some snk versus capcom hopefully sales of that on switch might influence someone to make a decision somewhere about something uh and then i jumped over to show off some of the older neo geopocket color games uh that was a good time i regret to inform everybody

that infinite versus has been shut down boy has it blitz netcode shocking fucking no one blitz net code is dead the dream is over everyone go home or you know just stop the exe from connecting to the internet and then keep playing it but yeah if you if you got it the the characters are already in the build they can't be removed they're all there i so i remember but anyway like when you were describing it to me that's the part that made me laugh it's like the characters are all actually there but they're called mods and i was like this is gonna fucking this is such a asking for it god situation and sure enough it's hard to not be responsible it happened 48 hours after the fucking video went out like well you doomed us to a future with no blitz netcode the future

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i have a question for you sure did accent core happen not exactly that's the like out of all the guilty gear gear stuff accent core has this massive story mode and like i it feels very like not actually happened at all yes and and uh one or two an extremely minimal amount of of people did i see uh leave some feedback going what the fuck you you ignored everything that happened in accent core that's not why'd you do that there's all this stuff that matters there and i'm like actually on the official timeline that stuff did not happen um what matters about accent core is real simple two things one uh the post war administration bureau exists and there's a dude named crow kuruaba and i introduced him in the last video he made robo kai okay second uh

you know when she's doing all of her shenanigans and things that don't happen alternate timelines things that whatever she gets stopped at the end raven and that man stop her that's all you need to know literally everything else did not occur but there's things within those that are good to know and useful and cool information and you can see what happens in a world where potemkin dies or um eddie adopts an orphan or not eddie excuse me um um uh venom adopts an orphan kid named eddie who replaces who's kind of like a spiritual successor to zato you know and some little things like that like there's there's little there's tons of them every character has has two to three endings over these games and like almost all of them did not happen you know

they're all wild and out of out of all like they're everywhere yeah and it was a very difficult thing to kind of figure out how to approach because like there's a couple of ways that i could have gone about that and the least cool way would have been to ignore all of it and i didn't want to do that so instead i picked some stuff because even though these things didn't happen there's characterizations and little bits and pieces that are like interesting to find out including um the fit like the shit that makes me like angi mito you know um the fact that like he is the walking iteration of just talk in the universe who just wants to ask people what the fuck is going on and he gets up to that man and he asks him what the fuck is going on why did this

happen like you know that shit is is great and it's really cool to see that even though the results of this conversation are not necessarily canon knowing that he's the kind of person that would do that is rad you know um also uh someone so i remember a while ago a couple months ago someone was like can't wait to see how uh willy's gonna like just bias his whole video towards biken and i'm like oh you mean the person who got like two sentences cumulative in both videos and in this last one bikin's bikin's not important she jobs instantly to that man what are you talking about you know like she's she's not playing a role that matters in the story she's just cool yeah that's it you know at the end of the day in a storyline where in a

timeline that doesn't happen she goes i'm gonna fight you dude and then he goes okay and then he dusts the fuck out of her and then she sits there and goes oh man and he goes yeah i can't believe it nah anyways you know so yeah um that's that's cool you know uh that's included and the other little fun bits i mentioned like um uh uh zato when he dies eddy tries to consume Sharon and Sharon is something else that just melts him so you know anyway he becomes like insta vaporized indeed indeed um we then go into the the uh you know some of the little side stories like uh fucking weeaboo ninja chip xanath taking over a section of south africa and turning it into his own kingdom i'm gonna be the president becoming an african warlord uh essentially

you know and um and then yeah the the other things as well where um eno who is a very topical subject matter at the moment introducing her and and her role uh in in the double x games and of course introducing sin and um you know the whole dragon install mystery i'm like look we're gonna start the pieces of what that means but essentially uh i we don't have the fullest answers yet but yeah it totally is about the eye patch it all comes down to the eye you know the and i saw uh some people were asking wait but what does it mean though you know and it's like well this is where you got to use your own you know uh intuition to put it together but you know i think when sol sees both of those eye patches he walks in and goes oh okay i

get it and it's like well what is there to get and it's like well it didn't spell it out expressly but probably sin's eyes gave him away as a gear and they were probably glowing as fuck as and read as shit like when they're activated when he does his instant kill and stuff yeah and it was probably going to be a really rough time looking like a normal human with some big old gear eyes in your head so in all likelihood kai probably took one and gave him a normal eye so that sin could appear to be normal and it also turns out that by having that gear eye over the course of the games it slowly does its thing he uses it once before in the excerpt storyline and now he's using it and it's doing the dragon install bit so that's what i'm actually really glad because

like sol and kai were rivals like since the beginning but it was always like a fucking joke like for most of the series storyline like kai doesn't have a fucking chance on this earth like sol is like goku and kai is like fucking piccolo right he's like he's cool no like jesus shit no we've had this conversation before and i told you already it is not that at all kai beats the fuck out of sol the difference is it doesn't matter sol is not a fighter he's a scientist that eventually learned how to wield his his shit and figure out how to be really strong but that doesn't matter kai beats his ass the difference is is that um effectively whenever they're sparring kai is not taking it seriously because he's being noble and honorable and all

that shit but in the context of war in a scenario where it's actually like lives on the line type of shit kai fights in a very different dirty manner and the end of rev 2 expressly shows you that when kai decides to actually you know fight as if it is a battlefield and not just as a spar sol doesn't stand a chance wow that is not what i thought he wrecks the shit out of him like there's like a five or six second sequence where he stabs him in the foot elbows him in the jaw breaks apart of the the the hilt of the sword throws dust in his eyes kicks him to the ground and then starts up a giant uh massive electric attack and sol just sits there on the ground and takes it because he has no idea what the fuck to do sol doesn't have

tactics that kai has on the battlefield i'm gonna watch that right now so kai fights dirty to win but that's what it takes and the thing is is in in that moment uh sol saw him fighting in that manner and like annihilating gears left and right and basically he's like the first time he saw kai he said he's like i felt scared because i'm like he's gonna immediately know i'm a gear and he's gonna kill me because no one kills gears that efficiently you know he just mows them down and then when they did duel he kai was like yes on guard my good sir and then sol was like what the fuck dude like fight me for real and then kai wouldn't do it he was kind of treating him like you know an honorable duel and then sol was like fuck this so every time they did scrap

you know uh sol would beat him but at the end of the day does that mean that kai could have beaten justice because sol like went full gear took his headband off like all the way out to get rid of justice we're never we don't know that's some dragon ball logic you're playing with rock paper scissors i mean kind of yeah and uh i i don't think i can give a definitive answer that couldn't it's it's debatable because like the idea is like just fighting dirty against justice work because justice was like a freaking freak well you know like justice is already like

shocked by the fact that like that you know she can't control sol to begin with um but beyond that yeah dragon install is something a little different um it it honestly it's it's hard to say i can say that uh kai at the start of the story does not stand a chance because he does lose to justice um and uh cliff fights justice to a standstill you know 17 times and cliff is the best he's the fucking coolest dude cliff fights justice to a standstill 17 times uh and like kai then you're kind of putting again you have to do a little bit of number number logic and and shit like that um yeah it is it is not a clear cut answer but it feels as if by the end of the story possibly at the beginning of the story absolutely not so where do we fall

in between all right so i just watched that bit from rev too wow he kicks the goddamn shit out of sol that is not even close not even close flawless and like the whole time sol is basically going like come on bitch let's go fuck you fucking fight me and then he has to yes he has to insult dizzy is that why yeah is that why sol's fucking sword looks different in uh in uh strive because kai fucked up the the the casing uh i mean we i think it's just the next iteration of the junkyard dog um i'm not we we haven't found out exactly what's going on there yet but uh it seems likely because that shit's broke after that fight so he's gotta fucking get something together to fight that man you know seems likely uh and not into gears fucking so dumb i love it and kai does that wearing

his fucking evening gown clothes his afternoon casuals yeah he's got his button-ups and his white pants on you know yeah um but that that's the deal is kind of like it's batman versus superman but batman with time to plan right can clan can uh clark kill bruce absolutely in seconds no question but batman with time to plan wrecks superman well kai when he thinks the situation is actively real war and treating it like a threat destroy sol same thing mm-hmm so episode fascinating yeah so that's out we also talk about sin and uh and overture and all and and of course uh did you guys like the the the backyard section i hope so i had a little section of the backyard we're just like okay we're doing this we're doing it let's

lean right the fuck in at like i literally fade the video out to white and it just becomes talking to an empty void about the nonsense calculations of this of this world and what it all means and it's like fuck off fuck all that in summary it's it's programming and that's it it's a meta thing to say that you're playing a video game but not being so tongue-in-cheek about it you know um i can hate the backyard so much yeah i know that's fine i like it it's fine um yeah so so you know i'm i'm glad that's finally out there uh you know only minimal corrections tend to make about a couple things when i when i when i got the feedback uh from marxist so that's cool i'm glad that uh you know from each episode going forward it's been tighter and tighter

and uh yeah i have a little bit more time now to to to catch back up so we're definitely gonna hit strive by the end of uh by the time it comes out but for now um dude that sucks i hate it but we'll talk about that it's great it's fine i have no problem delays for good reasons are are okay by me so what if they help me work on my lore videos a little bit longer that's not the point it's not about me i bet you're happy yeah um but uh so we but we kind of yeah we take it all the way to overture and uh you know obviously next we gotta cover the excerpt series but that is not all it is not exactly straight from overture into um excerpt and then rev there's some shit in between that we gotta talk about just a little bit but it's there and it's called pachinko

i'll get out really we're going in baby pachinko storylines that matter they're canon they're totally canon very important i already used artwork from the pachinko games in the previous episodes for anyone who was eagle eyed so it's there you know yeah man we're gonna go into that gotta take a detour gotta explain all right let's get in the news yeah sorry all right we gotta get in the news first news the delayed strive no yay well maybe maybe yay shiggy says delay delay bad game good forever what yes uh huh i have no problems with a game that i'm excited for taking some time because i know why'd they delay strive to june 11th probably hopefully because they're fixing the lobbies uh likely because they're at least tightening up um the feed based on the

feedback they got shit like replays and uh not replays um rematch and stuff you know uh our code problems um all of that all of that and yes to add blitz netcode to the game of course that they did specifically say they're they're working on the lobbies like that's the number one thing they said they're going to be working on with this delay um but it makes me i wanted what they i wanted them to say we have to completely redo the whole lobby system because it's garbage instead what they said is that they will be working on various improvements and stability things to the lobbies which i feel is going to be the lobby doesn't crash as often well for what it's worth they've used that in the past to in the developer's backyard articles that uh folks

didn't really care about until they got their hands on the game and realized how good it was and then uh to explain what those changes were over time with the feedback from earlier beta tests that people gave and they did listen to those things you know so so far the track record on listening to what everyone's angry about has been very good i i hope that's what they do and at bare minimum if they don't do that at the bare fucking minimum make it so that the training mode um into queue up to your next match system is seamless because i told everyone already that like when you do that in the room you're in i was able to queue up with matches no problem for a while um if there was a rematch option while waiting for matches in the training room

we wouldn't even be talking about lobbies so yep at the very least making that work means the whole pixel lobby system is an optional experience that you can just completely ignore so that's you know if they don't rework it then just make that part work and then you don't even have to think about it either way um so uh that's what they said you know and then we'll see what else i mean i'm sure they're also looking at character uh feedback and and and uh you know we'll put temkin needs buffs absolutely dude he he was woefully underpowered he barely walks in the beta it's he's gotta get an air dash into that guy so slow uh they showed off ino and they showed off angie uh ino is interesting in this context because uh while she has the core

things that make ino ino throughout the games they've changed a couple of them in particular um so her aerial super is now like a reversal that like it does like a an uppercut that you can do to get the people the fuck off of you um and her air dash has no sigil on it so basically she can move through the air way faster and and way harder to react to ways than the rest of the cast to summarize the only one that keeps her old air dash essentially uh because she always was about you know that morrigan style she doesn't dash forward she dashes upwards and diagonally she flies at you so uh yeah uh she's she's interesting um angie has the butterfly it's a little bit slower looking this time around but any character that has a projectile that bounces off of you

and comes back down that has you have to block twice is gonna be tricky so yeah he's he's the only person in the game right now that i think has that thing i mean rev and and classically i mean you had venom and all of venom stupid pool ball bullshit right with his goofy fucking projectiles that go everywhere and then you had that because the character's name it was the the the the little korean girl that was inside the big robot come in and and they had the the fucking weird pushing a doken move yeah where you control the projectile with your stick yeah exactly um so that's that's it you know you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna see these these these mixes you're gonna be forced to hold them um you know exactly you know with aerial control like that

and a dash button fuck you know with a dash button oh my god it'll be it'll be wild uh because she can now do her like dive kick but she can bounce off of it instead of just like landing straight in front of you you know so um yeah yeah though they looked they looked pretty cool so far so good um and and and it's and it's interesting to see like where the toned down decisions were made you know um uh we didn't get to see both of their their like big supers but we did get to see like a smaller one they said they weren't done with the animation yet and stuff so we'll find out um but there is a screenshot of megalomania being cast where the speakers come out and you see all the fucking amps and like you know is jumping in air and then you see like the

wings with the speakers coming out she's about to fucking play so looks cool um that that was guilty gear you know uh and then there was some other wild shit that went down while we're on the topic a new goku has appeared in dragon ball fighters and another new goku uh four they revealed gojita revealed gojita four another goku so it is another goku and you know what it is right yeah on a function level we got to talk about what the character is doing though a little bit because existing in a game with bad netcode that i can't play well there's that anyway his moves are crazy and they made him a kind of wild gimmick character that will either be the best or the worst character in the game apparently they nerf the shit out of ultra

instant goku and people are like they're fucking finally they also they also handled um the assists on on uh kid goku and and and boo as well um they they they toned down a lot of the the god tier stuff that was happening at high level in the game um and what a great game that's getting tons of support wouldn't it be great if they put out an update that made the net play better it certainly would it would be very expensive to do so but if it would save the game at this particular juncture a lot of people in the fgc that are like competitive dragon ball players are kind of also lamenting that like this is kind of the end of its life cycle possibly because this would be the time where they would announce like new stuff if it was coming but it seems like it might not be

so if this is in fact the end then rip however i would definitely take it if the game was done but they were making a fighters 2 that had net rollback that would be great too that like these all of these things that would be an ideal scenario you know maybe uh drop the know the noise about it uh in a year from now or so but just like what would a fighters 2 even have though uh we'll start with the full roster um and start with rollback and then just you know um some characters that are not just goku's some some weirdos some weirdos or find more goku's take your pick are are there more goku's oh there are always more goku's look it's it's the goku who fought king piccolo before he had the blue in his uniform

that's a unique goku it's bizarro goku he says mahe kha mahe ha meh kha mahe kha yeah i would i man i love dbz fighters so at least it's the game that taught me it's the it's goku from the planet zir and ah it's the game that taught me like to understand the 3v3 fighters and i really i adore it and it's just like people disconnect constantly and the delay is so bad it makes me genuinely sad i would totally have been playing at this whole time yep like off and on if like at least every time a character came out but like i just i touch especially now after strive like i imagine the next time i play a delay based fighting game i'm gonna be like

uh sad can i can i check you there a little bit though um you might run into a similar experience in fact you would here's what would happen the net play would be great but right now the the the monsters are online and you'd run into a couple of them absolutely and then you'd probably get kind of discouraged a little bit like killer oh 100 percent uh yeah i was just i was talking on twitter about killer instinct about like what a great game but by the time it hit like mass availability on steam like for for me specifically like i i well i got way better than all my friends very quickly and then the people that i was going up against were like despite the game having just come out for me people were playing it for like

four years just fucking blowing me up but you get like and dbz and k i do have something in common when you get like blown up in that game you don't get to play like uh k i like yeah like the mix just they're doing a combo and the combo just doesn't end if you can't break it i mean i mean so in in k i it's the most like you can play if you break out though of those games right it's not a free burst but it's built in that you can stop the combo from happening um you know but but what i would say is that like there's a lot of situations that happen in these games where it's like yeah for one reason or another this is not the the thing that's going to land in in your you know where you want it to but if what you're describing is happening the answer is to uh play a bit more

and then you'll end up fighting people that are on your skill level at uh because you know when you're in that that point where it's like okay so who are you what are you capable of what's going on you know and you're going to be fighting a wide gamut um it's not quite a situation like um old third strike you know fight kate or or or some of those games where there's literally nothing but killers online what are you doing old third strike is might be the most impenetrable fighting game experience i can ever imagine because the peri mechanic makes it so that you just you're not allowed to play it's it's kind of hilarious but i but at the same time it's important to not make people think that this means don't even look at these games however because the the there's a

there's a problem where if you make something sound like oh god don't even then like a good ass game that is cool that is worth looking at might scare somebody away that might otherwise be interested just because of the the idea that they can't climb that mountain so to speak um it's but i recently uh found a new fighting game youtube man named leon massie leon massie yeah i put out a i put out a video about like fighting games are for everyone a little asterix a couple months ago and it's like they're for everyone but not every fighting game is for everyone right and like one of the points that he makes is like if you're trying to get into a fighting game find something that you like but also if particularly if you're new finding something that just came out is kind

of vital it's because people new to the genre going into like a long established game like tekin for example they're gonna get fucking blown up yeah you're gonna have it blown up you're gonna be you're you're always you're gonna have an easier time when you're amongst those who are where you're at and um you want it so like if you're someone who's new and you don't know what you're doing the crowd of other people that are similarly trying to figure out what's happening is going to create a soft pad for you to occasionally you know uh uh find matches that are more amongst amongst your skill level now what you're describing with killer instinct and and you know um what would happen in say a dragon baller in one of these cases is you know fighting

games enough to like get beyond that introductory point you can play them uh functionally enough to you know get to a point where you're in the in the in the lower rankings working your way through to figure out where you land in the middle yeah right and i assure you that games like k i games like skull girls games like um you know a dragon ball even like uh you would find your level in there even if you initially are fighting some killers that hit you really hard and make you feel like you can't play the game you the answer is literally just to play it a bit more and um you know the the the part where like it's like okay but all this tech is figured out and everything is like it's on its third season and stuff it's like well yes but at the same time like learning

your character in any given game whether you're learning it at the start of the journey or at the end of the journey when people have figured it out it's still relatively the same amount of investment and you're gonna have to go through that amount of time either way the only difference is is whether you're going through it with everyone else or not um but you're all gonna land off at different areas of skill and the part you're gonna land at is one that is gonna require the same amount of time regardless of where the rest of your competition is at you know so i think i think your answer um with those games that have good rollback would have been to uh yeah just you know play a bit more

yeah this this is a discussion to have when they they run well i'm talking about like killer instinct for example oh k.i i don't know i got blown up so bad dude yeah but like but my main issue with k.i was was like k.i is very different but pat it was sorry finish your thought but go ahead pat like not being able to visually recognize the auto doubles made me feel like i was just literally going to die okay like every single time pat you and you you have to and there's a lot there's a lot to learn there you blew me the f.ck out in guilty your strive on the online beta just now i don't know anything about nagoriyuki in the long run i recognize how much i have to

learn about this character and specifically about the match up against potemkin who's very strong and what i have to do that like for now that at this point for that to be like a discouraging thing in a way it's like but how silly would i have been to expect to go up against your experienced potemkin with this brand new character and win like there's a there's an audacity to that that i i don't have it's a new thing you know um i i i would take that moment and it we're all different right we we're all different but i would take that moment um in k.i and look at it as one where it's like okay well this is what you know the the ceiling looks like in a way but those wins and losses especially early on they don't matter because you're learning you know you're

trying to get your head around this character you don't know what you're breaking just yet you don't know when to um you know or how to set things up with your character and you don't you certainly don't know what your character's weaknesses and strengths are but you do have enough to beat the like the instinctual play to use the word of your friends who are picking it up too you know and and that that is just enough to get to a point where you're like okay like you know how high the mountain is and now now is the time to like start chipping chipping away at that stuff but you definitely wouldn't expect to win fighting against some killers in that scenario oh no i really that's not the the point that i'm trying to make my the point that i'm trying to make

is the k.i functions on a different like set of rules than a lot of fighting games and like a large proportion of matchup knowledge in that game is learning to visually recognize auto-doubles right so that you can break on like the first hit of an auto-double right the there's the there's the input there's the there's the attacking animation there's the defensive getting hit animation and then there's the sound effect and the spark size so there's four there's four things to look at that you that uh you have to start recognizing yeah mm-hmm and like when i was playing it like i like the learning to recognize those auto-doubles like sucks when there's when every match it was against a different person

like if that is not a fun learning experience okay fair enough i i'm so i just i just checked and man k.i is down to 37 people a day so the the the situation with learning matchups in that game in particular like getting used to the those buttons again it is made easier when you know that you can look at more than just the animation of the of the person's attack there's other clues you know and like when you kind of start there because they they added more over time too they did more to make sure that you could identify them a little bit easier but like when you start there it kind of it it helps you know if you're having trouble recognizing like the what the specific characters type of swing is which everyone does because you don't know what everyone's buttons

are you haven't played those characters but like that's where like yeah the reeling the sound effect the other things come into play and it is it is tricky right but what would happen though is before you learned to recognize all those things and then beat that person who's like styling on you or whatever you would end up getting paired down to the level of player that is around your match and then you would start having more even sets with those people so that's the thing i played for like a full afternoon or two and that never happened i instead got paired up with the same people literally over and over and over and over and over okay was this uh recently any chance or was it like oh no this is a year or two a while ago it was right after the steam

release okay i'm seeing people in the chat say that nobody plays the steam version because it doesn't have cross play with the xbox huh interesting could that could be a thing um i don't want to imply that like my experience with it was the same that everyone else had uh but i don't know about that i do think that um yeah when you're down to you know 30 something folks at a given point then uh yeah i believe it does well i'm pretty sure windows and oh yeah people are people are of liars it has cross play just not ranked cross play that's interesting um can't play ranks yeah but but uh i not not having a large pool of players like is is certainly a thing that that is an issue the thing is is that though um

i guess it's supposed it depends on when you know i guess it depends on when when you're jumping on and in in an ideal scenario that i find that that's kind of what happens with me um and then you kind of get to this point where um something that you kind of feel and you felt it the most i remember in rising thunder but you you you hit a point where you almost are winning and losing matches like intermittently like like i feel as if like you know rising thunder's algorithm would throw you someone way above you followed by someone way below you and then slowly it was it was fucking crazy it was so aggressive yeah and then it slowly whittled it down but that was the most noticeable one right like every second match was against the beast and every and every uh first

and third was against someone like you know that was just starting out um but when it's less aggressive i find that it it worked pretty well i i i did manage to find a a place where i was like okay these are competitive matches and i'm about here and if i figure out what i gotta do go do some lab homework whatever the fuck the case is it does get a little bit better you know um but anyway any way to check the population on uh windows 10 game uh i don't know um not too sure anyway we we got a little sidetracked there i was kind of just gonna talk a little bit talk about gojita and like oh yeah the gimmicks that he's running so uh most characters and dragon ball

fighters have a you know a big beam kamehameha and uh a couple of like options you know like a like a a crouching low attack that makes you have to block low for example and things like that a couple of the weirdos don't have those things and usually have to kind of figure it out another way uh so he's one of those weirdos but they went really aggressively into that that realm with it it's almost kind of how like darly dagger has a bunch of these crazy like super damaging gimmicks but you gotta they're not all honest you have to pull them off on someone who's sleeping but here i don't know i we don't know if it's gonna be whether you're sleeping or not because what they gave him is um one he's the only character in the game with a double air dash and a double air

dash means you can jump over someone dash across them and then undash backwards and they have to figure out which way you're going to to do an anti-crossup yeah whatever what would you call that i don't even want to call that uncross up uncross up oh this or they would have to do what's called a cross cut reversal which is like um if if uh i if you jump over me uh in with ken and you try to do your cross up like medium kick in the air and i do assure you can the opposite way and stop you it's called a cross cut right jesus ship anyway uh but yeah so he can air dash twice which is already just nuts for like you know figuring out where to block on that situation um he has a uh no he has no beam but he has like a fake kamehameha that goes into a command grab

he's got a k instead of a projectile like like ha ha ha ha he has a stare so you he has a st an attack uh that just staring at you does damage when uh fucking super saiyan for gojita is around apparently so um okay if you're in the close range area he does an attack that's just him staring at you and it tracks and hits you once uh you know stupid very weird uh and then he has a taunt and every time he does the taunt he gains one level of buff um what that does is it turns his supers from pretty average to underwhelming into level seven taunt you will die immediately upon eating it no matter what health you are round start level three and dead character almost armika ish nonsense but the difference is his armika has to stand there for like 30

seconds or whatever he can keep fighting and do a taunt every time there's a knockdown oh kind of like q yes imagine if q can taunt seven times and then get an instant kill the biggest weirdo absolutely uh he does get damage increase increase each time he taunts so there's that it seems like something you can absolutely do in the middle of a fight especially if assists are covering for you uh and then the other the other weird thing is he has a dragon punch that gives a dragon ball to you to the system every time you land it or don't land it on block or on hit a dragon ball appears that's that's fucking goofy as shit yes for anyone who doesn't remember the dragon ball system in that game is when there

are seven dragon balls on screen you earn them by doing you basically you earn them by doing combos that are either uh that start with the right number so 10 hits you get the one star 40 hits plus you earn the four star when you get all seven you do an auto combo and then shenron appears and if you have seven bars you can make a wish and the wish can either give you full healing on your character it can bring back a dead character give you an extra sparking blasts or give you regen on your red health for the rest of the match he gets a dragon ball to appear every time he does this this dragon punch instantly so he can just farm for meter and dragon balls and potentially do some bullshit who knows that's fucking so goofy exactly it's

incredibly goofy so fucking goofballs we were looking at this whole dragon ball acquisition shenron system as like oh my god why is this in the game can we turn it off what are we doing here and not only did they leave it in they like added in a character that can specifically utilize it like more than others can you know um his assist does it too well there you go like yeah of course with the dragon balls if someone else has level set if your opponent has level seven bar then then they can call them instead you know so it's it is a risk on both ways but it's basically throwing a loaded gun into the into the mix on the ground and seeing who can get to it first so yeah kind of a wild ass choice to uh to put into the game

as a function goku aside he's a real weird gimmick nonsense thing and he will either be the best broken level god tier character or the worst we will see his inability to do a crouching low light attack or a beam is big so you know there's something about the taunt thing working on assist that makes me feel like dark phoenix uh-huh like call out your assists in the back uh-huh build at least three bars tag into it just feed him yeah feed him tag into it you know he can he can be he can come out once per combo so get a cup but the thing is is you know like usually this is a game where you know one two touches that's probably a dead character at highest level play at the very least you know

um at low to mid he's probably just going to be complete bullshit i see i i could feel that i see him be complete bullshit at low to mid level play yeah uh so anyway that's it uh not to linger too long on the the dragon ball talk but that that that was a notable strange decision um meanwhile over in uh snk land i regretfully inform everybody that the king of fighters for girls will be terminated on march 31st so what do you mean will be terminated we are not getting an english translation of the king of fighters for girls oh no the dating sim trailer where yori was all like kill slash murder your heart girl oh no and he was all like

yeah the king of fighters for girls dating sim i wanted it in english so bad but unfortunately we will never get to date terry bogart don't don't say that just yet you don't know um fighting games are weird epic bought fall guys fucking whatever fuck them all right media tonic owned by epic games i can't wait for that game to be pulled from steam it's going to be bullshit like what happened to rocket league exclusive uh egs yeah that's what happened to rocket league that's probably where they're going why would you spend all that money to buy the company if not to do that um

then again like it does feel like uh like among us kind of comes and stays as a group kind of game fall guys it's the updates that people come back to and when it does an update it feels like the drop off gets faster yeah among us yeah uh anyway so there's that oh man i was watching a bunch of fucking terrible tiktok memes uh recently and man them kids are crazy for that among us shit i've seen a terrible tiktok or two oh man tiktoks are like the fucking worst i love them uh terrible speaking of terrible

apparently according to some reports coming in and then uh a tweet by tracer shrier over here marvel's avengers a service game that has struggled to keep its players has decided to more grind and make leveling yeah yeah more grind yeah so we'll be increasing the amount of xp needed to level up starting from around level 25 and this amount will increase your the closer you get to level 50 it'll take longer to reach higher levels it'll only affect character level not power level if you already have level 50 characters which is current max this won't affect you but if you have a character who isn't level 50 and want to speed up their progress take the time to do so before march 18th because after that it's

going to take longer they literally told you do it now because we're going to make it worse for you you know what this is right this is this this is doubling down on the people who have been stupid enough to stay rather than actually fix anything this is the this is like this is the opposite of for honor this is the anti for honor move like they're adding the grind in and telling you that they're doing it and like brazen about it yep oh are you a whale still in the ocean over here have you not seen the redness of the ocean and the blood yet you still say well fuck you then pony up die i guess just yeah i mean it this is one of the most honest i've ever seen of them being like no no no come march 18th we're fucking gutting you like a fish

oh no it's almost like an advertisement to stop playing the game after that you know um wild anyway uh there's that going down and then of course where would we be if we didn't talk about this week's exclusive first look at space jam 2 featuring lebron james he's doing a chaos dunk he really is doing a chaos dunk i hope they call it that they won't but it'd be cool they will not they will not call it a chaos dunk it'd be really cool if they did though oh man can we get charles barkley in there with a with a kid similarly looking to hoops around him too deep that won't happen too deep too deep they ain't going down don cheetles in

there yucking it up so there's that yeah and apparently it's not all uh it's not all 3d apparently there's 2d animation in there as well because i saw um really one of the animators on the movie tweeted out and said hey show off the 2d stuff it's in there so apparently they're gonna jump uh or there's at least gonna be some scenes that are that are traditional 2d animation and some that'll be 3d so who knows did they why they gotta do lola bunny like that why didn't they do her like the fan art no not the fan art because the fan art seems to be the the crux of everyone's issue uh and go go back and watch the original lola bunny

fucking introduction scene yeah but then but then also in that movie there's a bunch of stuff where she's nowhere near as buxom as the arguments are going there's a whole lot of sure there's a whole lot of people calling for a voluptuous form that only existed in that fan art piece all slightly more but the original was absolutely like like a hot bunny lady there's definitely those shots but then there's weird inconsistency where she then doesn't have any of that whatsoever and uh i retweeted like a a a collection of them where you can just see her looking pretty cartoon bunny but some of them are are getting all up in there so it seems like it depends on the shot yeah anyway i'd disagree i know now just for for real though um i'm not

sitting here going like i can't jerk off to this cartoon rabbit anymore rocko because one if if i wanted to i still could and two it's not about that what it actually is and page summed it up pretty succinctly is that uh they flattened the character out and then said that well the reason why we flattened the character out was because we wanted them to be more capable which is like what you're saying girls with boobs can't do sports good fuck off yeah that's that's a completely dumb point to make that makes no sense like actually fuck off that's horrible totally okay but uh when it comes down to just the screenshot posting you know um yeah that that that that one that that i that was uh primarily getting memed is like

that's from dvn art but that's a dumb ass explanation that is that is absolutely silly like if they just announced the change and like if she was less hot like i'm sure just almost and there was no statement associated with it like that what are you gonna say but like pardon and there's no stote misstatement associated with it there's there's no statement that says well if you're attractive you're obviously not capable like like jesus christ yeah yep um that has created quite a star and uh hey man whatever whatever distracts us from the real shit i suppose yeah whatever oh man don't worry guys nothing terrible happening no variations of anything terrible happening

yeah i don't know what that's a reference to alternate covids oh the palette swaps as long as the facts as long as the vaccine still works yeah you say that but we gotta i do say that now shut the fuck up i want to hear any more it is punch bomb drop some stats on me that were not very encouraging the other day so all right dlc coming yeah alter exactly anyway um hey did you know there's a line in arkham asylum where the regards go man getting 15 bucks an hour for this ain't worth it oh seriously swear to god well hey it's not working at arkham yep i got a buddy of mine who works in a prison and he makes decent

money but he works a lot of hours right and i don't think he gets 15 but he gets like maybe a little lower than that and it's not worth it there nope let alone fucking arkham asylum yep like remember silence of the lambs he had a guy he had a fucking guy coughing his fucking face and caught covid remember silence of the lambs and and that he was definitely not getting paid enough for that shit remember clareese walking down the the oh yeah i remember mm-hmm when those bars are just bars that allow for the transmission of fluids yeah i'm aware wait the bars wait what that's a weird way to say that the bars are not enabling the transmission of fluids they're just not stopping the

transmission the lack of a plastic or box of sorts as contained around dr lector is is expressly enabling the transmission of fluids lector's got got like the glass he did wouldn't be able to do that the other guy was just able to you know um pull a spider man and web ball it's kind of impressive really he said i could smell your anyway um yeah that is uh not great so uh what else is going on though we got uh updates coming in we talked not long ago about do you remember the sinking city and uh i do remember the sinking city i was shocked we

didn't talk about it last week but we totally forgot so the frog wears versus nacon situation that we talked about where uh basically frog wears made the game and then nacon put their own version of it online and they've had a falling out and contractually uh they nacon kind of stole frog wears work well they've uh allegedly well now they've proved it in video for well i guess allegedly still until yes you know legal whatever's happened but i mean nacon uh there's a there's a video that frog wears put out called nacon pirated the sinking city here's a step by step outline of how they did it and they walk you through them downloading the steam version of this game and showing you that basically the publisher uh stole the game from them um reverse engineered

off different versions of the game pulled logos out and then uh recompiled it themselves and themselves as an alternate version and put that up for sale and like it's so clear and obvious that literally when they were decompiling it using their own um encryption keys the same encryption keys worked so yeah like as as well as like the this led to like frog wears being like don't buy the game on steam and then they dmca'd their own game on steam um and this this was like the result of like them arguing legally and then they went to a french court and then the french court sided with nacon uh initially saying they still had the right to sell the game on certain platforms and one of the the things that the french court told frog wears was do not interfere with

the publisher's ability to sell the game barring future legal challenges so like while i'm it looks pretty clear that frog wears is getting fucked on this yep they have probably fucked themselves over by doing all this crazy shit what because nacon will be able to go like look at them trying to fuck up though you have the former legal decision yada yada so there's what we're seeing and then there's what the contracts that they signed say and if the contracts they signed actually allow nacon to do what they did which is clearly take the build that is made by frog wears and just put it out themselves and do whatever they want and the courts support that uh then yeah they could be fucking themselves over because they have no recourse um and i guess the idea would be that if they

ever do prove something being um in their favor they could then garnish the the the profits of the game for whatever amount or or so you know if need be um but just as people standing outside that don't know what the signed papers say the game that's on steam is clearly the same build uh that they that that frog wears had modified and it includes every little thing that they can do to prove that they made that so it's not a question of did they take the same code or is it their own it's clearly the same it's just a matter of like are they within their legal rights to do so it sounds like it's still pending though and they're continuing to challenge it um a kind of a what do you call it a fucking mess yeah this looks like a fucking shit show

uh not unlike it's not unlike the um the cooking mama shit that went down not too long ago when the publisher and the developer of the game had a falling out and then the publisher kind of goes well fuck you i'm gonna put the game out anyway and then the dev says you can't do that unless we get paid and then there's a whole yada yada yada and then it's like okay well the legal paper says who owns what you know do you own like they own the ip do they own the game do they own the build do you own it like what what is the what what kind of contract did you sign because it's totally possible they sign something that says literally everything you turn over to us is our property you know but yeah it looks bad from our side though it looks like frog worries is

absolutely sure sure does yeah sure sure looks real real motherfucking bad and it also makes nakom look like you know like technically in the right which is not but scumbags yeah exactly that's not the way you want to be on this you know uh anyway uh so that's what's happening with the sinking city uh watchdogs legion pc multiplayer indefinitely delayed due to bugs oh really the console multiplayer for legion uh is imminent for console players after months of delays pc will have to wait a while longer as a number of crucial bugs cause crashes with certain gpu's and they're trying to fix it as soon as possible no estimates however so for now delayed indefinitely until other updates come through that's crazy

is it when pc is not your lead platform what are you gonna what yeah dude i mean i've been a console boy for a long time and uh due to you know no small influence of yourself and many of the fine folks listening to this i've uh started to become more and more pc uh uh centric with my my my choices but as someone who now swaps back and forth between both i still maintain that my console preference is based on the fact that devs treat consoles with more respect thus i run into less shenanigans and it's just that simple it's not about the machine itself or the capability it's the simple fact that pc remains an afterthought and i don't want to deal with the bullshit that comes along with it yeah it it depends on the on

the company like some games like yeah oh the pc version slam dunk no problem um other gay other companies like coey tecmo like you should probably play it on the console you know i will argue that it's a bullshit situation and i'll argue that it sucks every time they ignore it but i also do not want to deal with the hassle yeah i don't blame you yeah um um couple other random little bits here and there uh as we move on out so as a striker gun vault three is coming out next year apparently and as a striker gun vault is a game that i've talked mad

shit about because i did not enjoy the first one but it seems like the sequels and definitely part three feature other characters that swing swords around and i'm i'm totally fine with everything that is not gun vault himself so uh i'm down to check out the game and play all the other characters besides gun vault because playing as gun vault is garbage and playing as other characters is fine so yeah what's the problem with gun vault specifically his mega man system instead of being mega man is about shooting and hitting targets on the screen and then activating the electricity afterwards so the target marker oh that sucks the target mark system is just not fun it's just i didn't have fun doing it it was like mark everything on the

screen and then go raw and i'm like man fuck this i don't i don't know what else to tell you you know the sprites were great the bosses were cool everything about the world is stylish and it's it's it's really honestly what could have been your actual uh fucking spiritual mega man replacement you could have overlooked mighty number nine entirely and we could have gone the gun vault route but his basic system is just not it's just not fun it's you know to me some people like it that's fine you enjoy it that's cool to you to me i didn't have fun but the other characters that don't do that no problems there so um yeah no you're you're allowed to disagree you're allowed to think that's wrong i can i can

think it it it sucks and that's where we sit man ain't gonna fight about what's fun uh but uh we're gonna find about what's fun yeah i know you want to find about what's fun no i don't i don't give a shit i that gun vault seems like it sucks it uh yeah uh luminous avenger looks hot luminous avenger looks like a uh a fucking sick ass version of that that's a similar style uh to what i want i i did see um some footage like shmup god pat was playing in the unique beat i had some footage of that and i was like oh my god that game looks fucking sick um so yeah and of course it's 30 xdx as well but anyway uh there's that there's alien firestorm i don't know if you saw the trailer for this but new aliens game yeah uh maybe this one maybe third

person teams third person co-op horde alien god killing maybe right just gears of warring aliens together as a group seems fine maybe something please lord yeah featuring ripley from fortnight you know i gotta say when i saw the fortnight version of ripley i i did not hate it as much as i wanted to yeah it was weird to see a pseudo cartoonized version but it it it it just i was like okay all right that's her you did what she could it looks like her you know but it's the weirdest crossover ever coming on the heels of of um ryu but more importantly chunlee in her alpha outfit which is waking some people up i saw that waking some people up like smelling salts man

that alpha costume is fucking people were snoozing and now they're wide awake sitting up paying attention uh yeah maybe maybe aliens fire team who knows uh at the very least they're you know guess what they're continuing to use the franchise uh mighty fight federation uh that's the power stone like game is getting merriam from bloodstained so uh their guests characters are now merriam uh ricky and cuneo um yuka leili and i want to say one more i forget because uh merriam's heading over to blasphemous as well oh really oh that's interesting in that style you didn't see that sick yeah hey guess what here's here you know you want to hear the real real trash to it uh merriam looks fucking super good in that hard stuff fuck okay she looks she looks super

super good i mean that game is gorgeous so that makes perfect sense yeah sure sure wow uh let me see when is that happening it's out apparently that happened apparently that literally already happened oh damn yeah that's really cool that's really really cool hey shout outs to these new indies crossing over with each other shout outs to shovel night showing up everywhere unapologetically good shit uh and uh yeah lastly uh rumors reports saying that uh this summer finally the internal storage

options for ps5 will be available oh that'd be nice that would be nice i probably won't personally need it for a little while but i have a disk list console that would be nice now admittedly a lot of people just want to have a ps5 that would be even nicer that would be even nicer real nice however at the moment uh there is definitely a storage uh fucking thing problem where um yeah it takes uh over a hundred or over almost like 200 gigs away from your total um partition to our drive sizes are always lies yeah it takes almost 200 gigs away from your partition for like hidden you know system purposes and shit um and yeah like you find a couple of a couple of you know triple a games and you're full up real quick so um and now and

we currently cannot use internal storage uh uh system um you know systems so rumor has it that'll be unlocked this summer and that'll be fucking cool because you know i mean i didn't want to but i'm like well fuck i occasionally do feel like popping into demon souls but i can't because i'm installing yakuza and sekiro so that's the end of that you know it's gotta go yeah it's like 20 gigs no it's a bit more than that come on now the playstation ships with 825 gigs ssd um and after it partitions it leaves you with 667 blah so all right letters

yeah let's hit it if you want to send in a letter send it to castle super beast mail gmail.com dude the my i've been i've been like fucking fucking around with the microsoft account system in the fucking background like the pc xbox app shit is like fucking terrible oh my god like like it keeps trying to give me like a different fucking account than the one i have and like i have my old xbox account and it says that one's not real and then like holy fucking shit what you working on what what an absolute i'm trying to i i was like i know i own killer instinct on the microsoft store so why isn't it showing up in my goddamn games and it's like oh because it's on a microsoft account that's not associated with my old xbox

account so the old xbox account that i have that has like you as a as a friend on it um isn't the one i own pc games on instead it's a completely unique one that i made back when it was just the microsoft store and now i can't combine the two not great and it's like a weird email i invented specifically for that purpose man the alternate reality where that game was multi-platform you know oh yeah anyway um yeah guys i don't know pyramithra they're out right stuff things smash brothers we already talked about annie and skull girls you know we did it did we do it i'm pretty sure we did it monster hunter oh there's more monster hunter shit i mean the the demo is going to get

updated with mac mac map below or his name and uh monster hunter stories too is going to come to the pc which is nice apparently shoryu gecki is back i don't know what that means but it is i also don't know what that means okay well yeah sounds cool all right that's castle super beast mail at gmail.com gmail.com i ain't talking about the snider cut fuck that uh we got one coming in from um

jeff says dear woobat and pat rat first off congrats the patent page watching with a big smile uh on all these faces with bonus good stuff congrats there you go uh i'm digging the strive coverage uh i'm trash at fighting games but i love the style uh and banana's storyline um making up the gg canon after listening to you talk about how the game designer of strife is a big grappler fan watching the highlight reels of potemkin uh bodying people i uh as a casual fighting game observer i had to thought what it'd be possible to have a game that was all grapplers that and have them all feel different thanks for the weekly podcast y'all are great thank you very much um yes oh totally easily 100% easily all you have to

do is consider this what is a grab in a fighting game a grab is just a thing that hits you instantly if you're in the wrong place at the wrong time so all you have to do is design a variety of characters that can do that and change where that wrong place is according to the character we've seen super street fighter four had like fucking four five grapplers like yeah uh and then then you got this you got the the term pure grappler that started to come into play you know versus uh hybrid or pseudo and things like that so nowadays like just looking at like some of the defining unique ones that we've gotten over time you have uh there's like your zangief who can just throw you if you're in front of him or he can walk up to you and throw

you you've got sarabella who can reach out and if you're point blank she doesn't touch you but if you're a certain distance away the magic mid distance it'll work you've got like axl who can grab you from full screen you've got anti-air grabbing you've got characters that have to be in the air to grab you and you've got characters like king of fighters who combo into grabs so just there that's like five or six different types you can build characters around easy yeah uh all it is is wrong place wrong time so just design characters around where the wrong place is um we got one coming in from uh ragavan who says hey guys my wife is a doctor uh was listening

to this week's episode particularly the part about pins and needles and how rubbing fixes it before saying anything else this isn't me correcting either of you just some context my wife pointed out that this phenomenon is called gate control theory where a nerve is carrying two impulses at once the non-pain input overrides the pain input and prevents it from reaching the brain in this case the rubbing sensation overrides the pain of pins and needles i guess because it's the bane's equivalent uh the brain's equivalent of muting a smoke detector for example uh here's hyperlinks for the reading thanks huh interesting so overload of information and remove the pain so that you can get the sensations out

what about the life gate and the death no no you stop that what about the night guy uh uh we got one coming in from um marshal jack o's 5d nice that's a good name that's a very tricky uh dust attack to avoid um deer get into fighting games for fun and for rollback hmm interesting that could go either way recently i've been dabbing uh dabbling for some info on lesser accepted fighting games such as uh overture brutal legend and many arena fighters i've always liked the arena fighter format but everyone is well aware they're

bad they're so bad like probably everyone else is a fan of these games i recently started asking if the arena fighter format is inherently doomed to be kasoge or if there's a chance of a massive whopper that could come out and blow everyone away and show the general public a more positive attitudes towards what could be done so if kojima were to make zone of the enders three and it's just the versus mode as a fully polished fighting team including rollback do you think he could be the hero that arena fighters need yeah sure fuck it well for starters you're talking about a konami property and a man who doesn't work there anymore so that doesn't work at all uh second as people are saying decidia appears to be the arena fighter that everyone loves it right up until they made

the one that fucking nobody wants to play god damn it um could a refined zone of the enders three that was just the versus mode happen and be cool sure could but would that open everyone's eyes to some kind of phenomenon uh not unless it was like you know doing something incredible that like just pulls people in but decidia is a really solid counter argument to this that yeah a lot of people uh you know dug the fuck out of final fantasy smash brothers and it's as alive as square wants it to be you know just not like if they ever care to to fucking you know just do the thing then they can they can always do it uh yeah i'd say that's about that uh last but not least null says dear cooler avdahl and less dead shigetchi few podcasts ago

you guys talked about volunteer coaching systems and games reminded me of the one team fortress two had it was essentially being a spectator for a player who requests a coach you could use that text chat to guide and help with the ability to ping for various instructions like go left or get to this capture point no one uses the feature new players never use it because it's just someone bossing you around spamming pings veterans wouldn't coach because you'd end up with a player who's actively refusing to listen to you the feature was added in 2011 outside of a few months uh after that no one used it um it's been almost 10 years and the features only become more and more obscure uh

yeah so it got me thinking what features do you think of in games uh never get used and persist through updates revisions and sequels nonetheless i mean a good example of like almost the exact same feature is the mentor system in 14 that i've described before where it's like you get a little thing next your your name and it's supposed to be like you're knowledgeable so you can teach people how to do it people don't fucking listen and half the people with that little similar assholes i got one thing that comes to mind when it comes to persistent useless features um and that's point and click games like uh monkey island and all of the options they provide you with and the fact that there's some bullshit on there that you never use more than once or twice in the game so

like open and close are separate options because context is not a thing that we're doing back then and you're carrying forward like the scum system you know but i think like turn on and turn off are just literally completely useless for the entire adventure taste slash lick uh you know like it's just the weirdest shit and you never fucking use the somebody in the chat pointed out again the same feature destiny 2 has raid matchmaking called guided games that has been in beta since the day it released and it's never getting out of beta because the destiny 2 voice chat is terrible and it is a shit show and it doesn't work and like it fucking sucks um like i feel as if um early point and clicks kind of had a a system of gameplay where like

guessing which object interacts with which word was the game it's almost as if it was totally the game right it was like it's instead of typing it out in a text adventure we just put it right there on the thing and then you click on it to quick type it but context again would be would have been like yeah now it's all about context before then it wasn't it was do i pull this do i push it how do i get this puzzle do i open what is it you know and um that's that's all fine and dandy if you're actually making use of those options but if they just sit there for the entire fucking game it's like what are we doing here you know um yeah all right well that'll do her so that'll do her all right burger king's a bunch of cowards never forget

check out guilty gear lore it's a good one i promise i'm streaming a ship dismantling game on wednesday check that out artifact it's got banjo music artifact oh yeah they killed oh yeah they killed artifact that happened with what's up with artifact do you even remember what that game is no it's it's valves hearthstone oh okay and uh it it's fucking it's fucking dead yeah all right i'm gonna go play tepid now yeah okay later if i were to go play a hearth uh a game i would go play runeterra those both games we mentioned are alive there you go all right

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