Castle Super Beast - CSB 122: Quantic F#%king Reality
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Gotta run while I'm gone...
Alright, so, hello everybody. This is...
Good afternoon, Voice of Woolly.
Hello, Voice of Pat. This is Audio Land. This is where we're coming from.
You guys can't see us because, well, on my end, as you can probably hear on the audio,
I'm busy fighting fucking chaos over here.
And, on my end, there's just a lot going on over here.
That's... yeah, it's not great, so we're gonna just go with audio for now, the way God intended.
So I'm gonna ask a blunt question. Is this a...
Oh, you motherfucker. Stop it.
Uh, is this a podcast that you are recording while lying down?
Uh, not lying down, but, um, I have multiple chair types next to me that I will be cycling through.
Oh, I see.
So, I have a kneeling chair.
And, basically, I have a... you know, so I'll be standing up, I'll be using my brace,
I'll be switching over to the kneeling chair as needed,
and I'll basically be playing musical chairs to minimize what's going on.
How's your back?
Uh, it's not great.
It's... yeah, unfortunately, it basically was...
it felt like it was on the mend last time, and I felt good enough to start doing a, you know,
to resume the week as it were, and then the infamous disco stream happened, and...
I'll kill myself, you whore.
Exactly. I think it is.
And then, after that, my back basically reset to day one, in terms of feeling,
and then I was like, alright, well, that's just a no-go, you know?
So, um, yeah, after that, I just kind of, you know, then went about,
um, seeing my doctor and talking to people and doing things and getting stuff,
and I've since gotten quite a few back-oriented things.
I've gotten, like I said, a kneeling chair over here, which is a chair that you can almost do,
like, a... anyway, you rest on your knees instead of on your butt, so it's more...
it's less pressure on your back.
I've got a brace, which I use sometimes, standing up, which also helps with the feeling.
I got a couple of lumbar support pillows that you can put on chairs and things like that,
and probably the craziest thing I got is a inversion table,
which is something you lie down on, which then basically spins along a fulcrum point in the middle,
and it puts...
I'm looking at this shit.
And it puts your feet above your head.
What the fuck?
That's crazy!
And that is just a bit of a... like, that's a bit of an unnecessary, but it does, you know, give relief,
because basically it, like, reverses gravity on your body for a bit.
Without you needing to do a handstand?
Exactly.
It lets you do... it lets you do a handstand, so that just feels nice.
So, yeah, I'm doing one of those.
Looking into, you know, things and such, as it were, I suspect that, like, a big culprit in this,
as well, has... well, I mean, the obvious culprit, of course, is just sedentary lifestyle and weight gain.
What?!
Right?
But I think, while that's the culprit, I think the catalyst might have more to do with bed configuration,
and, like, basically, there's a... I kind of have, like, mattresses, you know, like, that, you know, are stacked.
So, I think, basically, there's a point in time when there's a memory foam mattress that, like, I've been using,
and I think, basically, when Punch Mom left town, the firmness changed in such a way,
between having one person on it or two people on it, that that might have affected, like, how I slept on it,
which then would have, you know, basically went into a range where it was like,
yeah, this is probably too soft for how big you are now, and then...
We had to change mattresses specifically for Paige's back problems, because we had, like, a squishy mattress that I enjoyed because of my corpulence.
And then that, like, damaged her back outright.
Okay.
It made an existing problem much worse.
Okay.
And then we got a Casper, which was a much firmer mattress, and all of a sudden, her back problems just, like, got much better, pretty much overnight.
So, that's the kind of the magic of it, right?
Is that, like, so that's what I'm on a Casper, as I've mentioned before, and I think what's up is that,
looking, looking it up and, like, talking to, you know, like, people about it as well and figuring it out, it's like,
it can fix or make problems worse, depending on your size and your weight and the softness of the foam, of the bed.
And so, if you're in the right range, that is, like, allows you to sink in just right and keep your spine straight,
then it'll fix pain, it'll relieve pain, and it's the same for, like, temperopedics, temperopedic mattresses, and anything that is kind of like that.
You know, the, the space age memory foam style beds.
But if you are on something that is too firm or too soft, then it'll force a curve of your bed, of your body going into the softness,
or if it's too hard, your curve will be outside on top of a flat surface, and both of those exacerbate pain.
So, you kind of need to find out exactly where you're at in order to, like, use a good memory foam mattress.
And so, that's what it is.
At this point, I'm going to basically go replace it within the next day or two for something more firm.
And then it gets more complicated when you have a 12-pound cat and a 65-pound dog jockeying for position on top of your body.
It turns out that, like, that's it, you know, and it turns out that, like, when the both of us are on it, it has the right firmness for me.
But when she's out of town for a couple of weeks, then it suddenly is way too soft for me.
And that, that's probably what pushed the whole, kicked the whole thing off.
So, now, I don't mean to be rude, Willie, particularly since this is a relatively serious topic, and I do hope you get better ASAP.
I have to pull a classic podcast bit and go, whatever, shut up.
River City Girls Zero and City Girls Two just got announced.
That's awesome.
We are in...
And River City Girls Two, one of the playable characters is that chick with the white hair and the abs from the shop.
Oh, nice.
Okay.
Yeah, so this is E3 week.
We probably could have mentioned.
We're in the middle of hot news dropping in constantly, yesterday, today, tomorrow.
In fact, in the middle of this very episode, we will just gonna watch the Capcom.
Yeah, so we're gonna have a weird moment where we're gonna jump forward in time for all you, all you MP3 folks, because we're just gonna see what's...
And the audio and the Capcom effect will just happen.
Yeah, and that'll, that'll, that'll be the way it sounds.
So, E3 is happening.
There's a lot to cover in regards to that, which is great because ultimately, like, when it comes to my week, you know, all I really got is just this back shit.
I have a few things, but nothing killer.
Yeah, and, you know, like, trying to, well, I mean, right now, like, as we speak, I'm literally in the process of like, so I mean, I saw, you know, a doctor again this morning.
I had another appointment and, like, I'm in the process of booking various, like, tests and talking to physio people and all kinds of things.
So, like, it's a very busy organization of the next couple of days to figure out what's going on and everything.
Still, still think that it's, it's inflammation-based, but which means that, like, it should just go down over time as opposed to something much more...
As it is, you don't want, like, you know, spinal diffidter or canastomosis or scoliosis or something like that with your spine out of the way.
But what is clear is as soon as I get the go-ahead to, like, be allowed to exercise and start, you know, getting back into shape and, like, that's...
I'm more than fucking rippin' and raring to go on that, because it's like, yeah, I just, I know a lot of this will go away once I just get it back down, but it's like, it's not, it's currently not safe to begin, you know, so...
Well, I wish you all the best, buddy. Legit. I hope you get better. I've obviously been living with somebody who's had very similar, like, disastrous back problems for a while and, like, oh, it seems like the worst.
Yeah, it's, I mean, honestly, the day kind of sucks when you hit a point where, like, so, I mean, I have, you know, a number of different, like, anti-inflammatories that I've been prescribed and between taking all of these, between, you know, taking my mom's advice and having some turmeric in the morning,
between putting the strap brace on for the, you know, the waist when standing up and then kneeling and then switching chairs and then going over to the inversion table and then doing occasional lying down and then getting to a point where sometimes all versions of existence are just, like, I can still feel it.
It's fucking exhausting. It's not great. So, to that end, like, because my days have just been cycling through those things and then sitting down at the, you know, the chair with the lumbar support and everything, I haven't been in front of my couch, I haven't been in front of my TV or my consoles.
I have not touched guilty gear strife.
Oh, man.
So, look, let's just get that out of the way.
I literally have not even touched it.
Like, I had, I, I streamed it on Tuesday and I made the joke that you had faked your back problems to stay away from my Potemkin under the, I think, relatively sane assumption that you would have been better at some point in that week
and hopped on.
I did not foresee this continuing into this, so I do apologize.
I just, like, I'm just, I'm not at the couch over there.
I'm at the table over here and I'm, honestly, it's like the only, so again, I'm working on the lore scripts, but it's the only thing I can do sitting at the office table chair, you know, like,
sitting at the couch and getting into, like, you know, playing something that intense right now is not going to be my, my, my idea, but
Well, I can fill you in.
It's good.
It's still good.
Potemkin got hard nerves, like we knew about it, but feeling it is different.
He's still kind of bullshit, but, you know, he's definitely a lot fairer.
May and her dolphin, Totsugeki shit is the absolute most nightmarish shit I've seen in a fighting game in, like, 10 years.
It is, it is oppressive.
It is unstoppable.
It is so mean.
Yeah.
I had a feeling based on, like, I got, I got that one set in with Justin Wong, like, in the first beta and, like, he was displaying Totsugeki
on fucking blast.
And I'm like, okay, yep, that's, that's an issue.
And then it's plus.
Yeah.
The ungebunga, as they say, is in full force with this game.
Um, everyone who's going to want to give a pass.
I want to give a possible award to what I'm going to describe as the king of gorilla normals.
Yeah.
In, uh, souls standing slash might be the best normal ever.
It might hit you from behind.
I hit you when you're behind him with advantage.
Yeah.
It's so disgusting.
Yeah.
And they did say in the, in the, in the developers interview that they wanted him to be strong, not to say that they're not going to make adjustments in the future,
but they wanted soul to feel strong.
So they did things like that.
He feels strong.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'd imagine the online play has totally held up.
I mean, there's some, there's some, uh, can't connect to whoever and you drop from matchmaking things that are to be expected.
But I had a ton of matches and they're all solid.
I did notice one cultural thing.
I don't know.
Maybe it's not cultural, but I played it a bunch on Tuesday.
Which was the early access thing for the, you know, if you bought the fancy version and I barely made it into a floor eight.
Right.
And then when I, uh, the next time I played it was on Friday and I logged in and it said, no man, you're, you're a floor nine or now.
Okay.
Now that the game's actually out.
Okay.
We've analyzed the average strength of the guilty gear player base and no, you can't floor eight.
No, you can't live there anymore.
Interesting.
So it's kind of funny.
It's like, hey, it's shocking.
The people who spent the extra money to buy the game and play it early are on average one floor stronger than everyone else.
Yeah.
The people who got it later.
Well, it's, it's, uh, game's great.
I just wanted to know that they average out in that way where like it'll legitimately move you based on like the influx of players.
I was surprised.
I expected to, uh, walk in and be like, I'm not ready for floor nine.
No, I was totally ready for floor nine.
Floor eight became floor nine.
Um, I'm seeing people flaunting their wanted poster status.
That system is incredible.
It's such a great thing to shoot for.
Uh, yeah, it's, it's like, Hey, if you, if you like fighting games, even a little guilty gear strive is an excellent time.
It's super fun.
Yeah.
I've had, I've had friends ask me, Hey, should I get it?
And I'm kind of like, I don't like just want to be the most obvious, like mouthpiece.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Say yes every time.
Yeah.
I have a conversation about like, what do you like?
What do you think is cool?
Like, let's just be honest and real about it.
But it seems like a winner.
I mean, that's, that's, you know, uh, but yeah, I, I, I look forward to being able to, um, uh, fucking boot that shit up.
Um, it is the first fighting game in like, I actually can't since like third, it's the first fighting game I can think of that I would ever recommend to anybody without qualification.
There is no like hidden downside.
Like even third strike online, which was like a fantastic release of that game has the caveat of you're going to be going up against third strike players that have been playing this for 12 years.
Right.
This one, there's just no caveat.
It's like, it's incredible.
And the matchmaking system and the ranking thing with the floors, to my experience, it's worked out great.
Almost all of my matches have been some degree of close.
Well, um, as we know, uh, new fran, new franchises or new, new like entries into fighting games these days tend to launch very poorly and build themselves up to being good.
So if this is the launch date, uh, uh, the, the version that we get a year or two from now is going to be really, really good.
You know, um, I'm, I'm, I like seeing, uh, some of these insane, like, uh, let's say like a full meter, uh, combos that people are doing that are like sea to shining sea wall to wall, coast to coast nonsense.
Where I'm like, in a million years, I don't have that fucking swag, but seeing people drift down, getting underneath, getting back, you know, it's so stylish.
I'm gonna learn how to jab, jab into anti air.
Like, I'm still running baby shit by comparison.
The jump from like floor nine to 10 and 10 to wanted is like bigger than all the other floors combined.
It feels like, like the killers that live on the top of floor 10 that are trying to break into the, the celestial realm are just fucking freaks.
Yeah. Um, and I, and I, you know, at the very least, I think, um, for proper fucking research purposes, um, I think I'm gonna like at least hit the story mode, uh, just as I'm working over here.
Um, apparently it's weird even by guilty gear.
So I'm hearing, which, uh, you know, that's great. Looking forward to it.
I mean, there's a lot of shit that like, I, well, for one thing, a lot of folks are tuning into, uh, obviously my, my lore videos for the first time right around now.
And like kind of going like, ah, what the fuck, where's the last one?
Cause, you know, like there's a big gap in knowledge between, um, where I left off with five and where, where this would start.
But like, so I, yeah, I do feel bad for not being able to like hit that, that deadline of like the launch of the game.
But, um, putting it all together now, uh, I do have like a full script for like what's left of the story.
So everything that's like revelator and rev two and the level of density in this final piece is beyond anything else that's been in the series so far.
Um, the, the average episode has had, uh, three to four thousand words coming in at about 25 minutes per episode.
Uh, this has, uh, 15,000 words.
So it can't be done in any reasonable single video manner because it's essentially would be, hey, would you like to sit down for two hours to go through what's left here?
And it's two hours that is compressing about, well, let's see here.
Uh, 26 story mode arcade, uh, uh, prologues, uh, the full four hour movie and then three after episodes, essentially a full season of anime.
Um, so, uh, what we're going to do is I'm going to, I'm going to basically try to compress it into two hour long things that come out like a day or two apart from each other.
So that at the very least it's just not like a shock to everybody who's like been watching 25 minute episodes so far, you know.
Um, but it's intense.
There's a lot left to cover.
Um, yeah, but, uh, you know, I mean, let's literally like just my entire existence has just been fucking that shit plus back.
So that's me.
What about you?
Hey, you want some guilty gear news off of that hubs?
Sure.
From a few minutes ago, sorry, data miners have pulled out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Uh, the fucking DLC list.
So I didn't look at the list, but I did hear a couple of days ago that they, they were able to scan and they figured out what the first season is going to be.
Um, I don't know what it is yet, but I did see someone, uh, hint at the fact that like, um, the most of it would be.
Characters from story mode, but I don't want to, um, yeah, I don't want to.
Do you want the list?
Do we want to talk about that?
Uh, you know, I think I'm looking at, I'm looking at the chat and some people do want to know and some people don't.
So for the sake of those who don't, maybe we should.
Okay.
Well, it's a June 12th article on event.
Okay.
Called guilty gear, strive, season pass data.
Okay.
First five characters.
If you do want to know, if you do want to know, you can go look it up.
All right.
How about that?
We'll leave it, we'll leave it up to the listener.
Um, I'm, I'm pretty happy with the, the, the list.
It seems like a good, good batch.
Okay.
Um, um, yeah, guilty gears.
Good shot.
Like shocker question.
If like this point, I might as well just take a glance at it.
I'll just, I'll just give you the list in, in discord.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
So it's a decent shot.
It's a decent group.
That's one of those I'm really happy about.
Okay.
Uh, yeah, go check out that article if you want to get that, that spoiled for you.
But, uh, anyway, uh, so what, uh, beyond that, I guess, uh, was, uh, well, what about
you?
Okay.
So the number one thing that happened to me in the past two weeks is that my woman
came back to me.
Huzzah.
Hooray.
And I forgot what it's like to have Paige around.
Paige being around is like living with a whirlwind.
It is like, it's like living with a cartoon.
Um, in the past couple of days, um, the woman has, let me get the list out, broken a lamp,
broken a door, almost broke her hand, rough housing with the dog, then almost got her
ring stuck on that hand, hurt her back by having the dog lay on her.
We sat down to stream the other day, um, the, the, the, the, the E3 and she just spilled a
whole coffee all over her and then got up and when she got up, she, she unplugged the
camera and kicked off the mixer.
And then when I showed her how to make the coffee, she burned her hand on the coffee
pot.
And then when she was making her coffee, she spilled the honey on the dog.
And then just this morning, she accidentally poured an entire casserole into the oven.
You're living in an episode of Eric Andre.
At least the intro.
But it's just, it's, uh, yeah.
No, that's what it is.
It's the first 90 seconds of an air country show.
Oh man.
So her hand isn't broken.
Her rings can come off if she needs to.
The oven is fine.
The dog has been de-honeyed.
The lamp, um, I have a weird, so one of the reasons the camera's not here is that I'm going
through a weird series of lighting situations that I'm currently in, in the midst of.
Uh, so that'll, that'll get fixed eventually.
Uh, but yeah, so that's back, couldn't be happier, but also, oh God.
Uh, as for, as for video games, uh, I'm plowing through the Mass Effect.
Hey, guess what?
Those games are great.
And I love them.
The first two anyway.
I'll, I'll judge the third one more later.
Uh, I played a little bit of Backbone, where he plays the raccoon in Vancouver.
What?
Uh, solving crimes and shit.
Which one's that?
You not seen Backbone?
No.
Uh, you go, go, go look it up.
It's got a really incredibly beautiful pixel art style.
Um, it's a, it's a murder mystery.
Noir that takes place in Vancouver.
Uh, but you play as a raccoon and you're investigating otters and bears and whatnot.
Okay.
Uh, it's, it's, it's fantastic.
Uh, I also beat FF seven intergrade intermission.
Just the extra shit.
Are you replay?
Uh, just the extra shit.
Just the extra shit.
Is it, is it its own menu?
It is.
You hit, you hit right trigger on the menu and you move over to a different title screen
that has you fees.
Wonderful.
Ninja star in the, in the ground like clouds.
Okay.
Um, it's a good DLC.
It's got a little bit of padding where they keep putting you into combat arenas.
Um, it's got Fort Condor in it and Fort Condor fucking rules.
It's legitimately amazing for the next game in the series.
I legit hope it becomes like a triple triad kind of thing.
Do they, your, your, do they like blow some other like later wads too early with this
too?
How, uh, by later, do you mean all the way out in dirge of Cerberus?
I mean beyond disc one or two, you know, I'm talking all the way out into dirge of
Cerberus.
Geez.
Yeah.
All right.
There's some Kingdom Hearts shit going on in that thing.
Um, and there's no ghosts.
So it all happened in the original.
You just didn't see deep ground.
Yeah.
Deep, deep grounds.
That's right.
They integrate it pretty well.
You could say that inter grade is pretty well integrated.
Haha.
Seriously, the Fort Condor fucking rules put out a Fort Condor game.
It's great.
It's great.
Uh, aside from that, Christ, what else?
E3's been happening.
I feel like killing chaos.
Yeah.
So, I mean, obviously there's a docket and there's a greater docket and there is a lesser
docket, you know.
Yeah.
Um, so if we're rolling in, we might as well roll in.
Let's roll in.
Let's roll in.
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So upper docket.
Now we got to do the E3 thing.
Oh boy.
Upper docket.
You know, I left an upper docket once at a friend's house.
The problem with leaving an upper docket is that you you're you're implying that you
have to reach in and set it up and that's gross.
No, you climb up.
That's insane.
Then you do then you risk death to do it.
You risk that way.
No, you climb up.
All right.
So I did not I haven't been following these conferences to their entirety.
I've just been clicking on the trailers that come in the aftermath because I've
learned better in my old age.
I know they have the stage shows, but really what I want is five trailers on a
website and then I just click on the one that interests me.
Well, here's what I'm going to do.
I'm going to just go look at my my streams and then I'll tell you what
what things happened.
Well, I've got a list.
Apparently the Ubi's I've got a list.
Yeah, you gotta fuck it.
Let's we'll do that.
That's I've got a list.
I've got a big old roundup.
Tell me about your list.
Um, so the upper docket is the things that I thought were interesting or worth
clicking on and then there's the rest, you know, so to speak.
Um, so yeah, some, some, something I'm going to kill chaos and I'm like, I'm
going to kill chaos.
We talked, uh, last episode about the rumors of a team ninja cross final
fantasy game and it was, um, pretty much like being, it was a rumor, but it
was being reported heavily by, by like injured industry and insiders as a real
project, then the trailer dropped and it certainly is a real project.
And I, I, I mentioned that if this were to occur, that we may possibly be
looking at final fantasy other M.
And when that trailer dropped, Oh boy, I big excited.
You know, we've got to kill chaos.
Well, it's surprising because like the, yeah, the, the, the, the dubbing in
the trailer for final fantasy origin origins does a lot of the heavy lifting
in giving the appearance of this thing looking really not great.
You know, we'll expand this afterwards to the whole square in X presentation.
Uh, the game looks bad, but, but the, the dubbing is doing heavy lifting on that
trailer.
It looks like quantum theory.
Do you remember that?
Oh yeah.
No, that's the era.
Quantum theory, never dead, you know, all that, like mid-auts, 360 looks like
a PS3 360 exclusives.
Mm hmm.
Mm hmm.
And for that are the first time the companies use the unreal engine.
And, and so you see him walking around and that's the thing too.
For a second, I was like, because of the, because of the sword on his back, I was
kind of like, wait a second, are you doing something like based on like what
they just put out with FF7R?
And then it's like, no, no, no, no, there's doing it's own thing here.
They got their own boy and no, it's a, it's a fucking isekai.
So this is the, this is where we kind of see that screenshot on the website.
Um, there's a tweet that I, who put it out?
Uh, was it?
Yeah.
As a chip cheesem put out a tweet, a tweet that was basically saying, here's
some art from the website that show you the three protagonists in their normal
modern day clothing, including, uh, you know, just ninja in the, the long
T-shirt and the long shirt and jeans.
Like just three guys hanging out at a gas station with my, my plaid hanging off my
waist and then so main and then main character from every, uh, mid-auts
shaved head game, uh, stand in there getting mad at chaos.
I've been thinking about this since the trailer dropped.
And the, the, the character's names are Jack, Ash and Jed.
Uh, Jack is the main character.
Uh, Ash is, uh, the black guy and then Jed is the redhead.
And I went down and tracked down the CG render of all these characters to
zoom in super close.
And I don't know if this is like hilarious or cool or gauche.
And I've been waiting to talk to you about it, Willie, about how you feel about it.
I think Ash is a black mage in the most blunt literal terms possible because I
pulled out his CG render and I zoomed all the way in and I think his fucking
eyes are yellow.
Does his outfit imply?
Black mage, like things.
Yes.
Oh boy.
I think they literally took the classic void with yellow dots and turn it into a
black guy with yellow eyes.
I mean, look, we, uh, in a world where Zach, the black ranger is repping his
mastodon and there's just nothing we can do about it.
We're still here.
We're still, we're still here.
All right.
Sure.
Now I'm going to, I'm going to go ahead and assume that, um, there's no, uh,
let's say Native American, uh, red mages.
Or anything along those lines.
Not to my knowledge.
Not to my knowledge.
Okay.
No.
So what, what, or, or, or even your main character wearing white with the red
trimmings of the white mage, like we're not doing any of, well, let's just
wait to see if we get the healer in the group.
And it's like an, the fucking Aryan Uberman, because it's just, if you're
going to do it, then why not just go, go across the board?
Why you got to fucking, why you got to do us?
Just be stupid across the board idiots.
All right.
Well, anyway, this, you know, that game looks.
Like I was, I was shocked because, uh, yeah, it was just, it was the main, like,
I, I saw it on, um, on like the Twitter news feed or whatever.
It's like, Oh, and you have a final fantasy.
And I just clicked on it and like, yeah, like 10 seconds in.
It's like, that's an awkward read, but okay.
And then halfway through it, it's like, Oh my God, this is like, I hope the
combat's good cause Ninja theory can do a good job with that.
Ninja theory team Ninja, but what the fuck is like, and then the
Garland showing up and then I'm, you are chaos.
I'm, and then like the word chaos is said like 15 times.
And it just like, like, what are they actually going for here?
There, there's something that Paige brought up that will totally save it in my
opinion, which she brought up what if, cause the other two characters have
normal dialogue.
All the characters have normal dialogue except for Jack and she brought up
what if it's a doom guy situation where Jack is like a fucking freak
azoid who just like got to kill chaos, got to kill chaos.
And the other characters are like, Oh, okay, buddy, we're going to, we're
going to go kill chaos.
It's okay.
Just the over the chaos can be over there.
Like that would be hilarious.
There's an entire possibility here.
If you're being extremely charitable, that this game is just the, like, this
is just the worst possible trailer the game could have ever gotten.
Well, woolly.
Luckily, they put out a demo that we could all play to see and believe,
except that demo is fucking broken.
Okay.
So broken as in.
Once you get it going, you're having a hard time understanding the mechanics.
No, it's, it's corrupted.
You can't play it.
You download it from the store and it's broken.
Chaos.
Chaos.
Chaos.
Man, I have a full LP on my channel.
It's about three minutes long of me downloading the demo and hitting the
button and it go corrupt today to download it again.
And I go, that's some chaos.
And then I call it a night.
If this is actually an isekai and it's real people dropped into this world
as, as the implications are, the, not framing that from the jump in the
trailer was a humongous mistake because everyone's just looking at this and
going, are you retelling FF one in the most ridiculously stupid way possible?
So I'm going to, I'm going to tell you what I believe this game actually is
because Final Fantasy one is covered in, in multiple re-releases as well as
being the core plot of Dissidia and like a subplot in other games.
Um, what I believe is happening is that this is an isekai and that, uh, your
characters will all fail and die because Final Fantasy one has an infinite
time loop that only the four warriors of light are able to complete.
And the first thing I said when I saw that is that the number of people in
that party is wrong.
So it is four warriors.
So the strangers in paradise are all the failed attempts and then the real
hero of light with his blue armor and shining Griffith hair is the one.
I'm going to, I'm going to assume that it is going to end with the failure
against Garland and then, or chaos.
And then you're going to look into the distance and you're going to see the
four warriors with the orbs on the way or some shit.
Um, because that gets around the, the problem of, uh, team ninja, like fucking
up like this super classic, right?
But you're still looking at it.
I mean, the, the, the, the, what do you call it?
The, the setting of the, of the game appears to be the shrine of chaos, which
is like laughably limited in FF ones like story.
Like that's the first dungeon only.
Man.
Like if everyone's already sick of the word, because of how bad the trailer was,
like, how is the game going to fucking like, ah, it's just, it's, that's such
a dead on arrival type of like fucking, if I feel bad, I feel bad.
It's a total comedy of errors because if the game plays well, all the shit is
forgiven, but it's a demo bro.
Like, holy shit.
And they've built up like so much goodwill in my heart with Neo, you know, like
they know how to fucking make a good ass game if need be.
Oh, it's possible that the game will be like great.
It's just like completely embarrassing.
So the other weird, that's kind of its own appeal.
The other weird bit in general is kind of like, even if you're going for real,
like not GTA, but like sub fucking Saints Row, like, you know, just mid arts,
twenty five to life characters dropped into a FF world.
Like they could be more interestingly designed regardless of, you know,
the, the, the, the era that you're going for.
Like they could on the, on the.
On the other hand, I saw, I forget who tweeted it, but they were, they were
right.
And it was people of complaining about Final Fantasy main characters being a
bunch of twinks in like frilly dresses for like 20 years.
And what finally, when you get a bunch of dudes that look like they were
teleported out of a home, everybody starts to complain.
Right.
It's like, that's true.
That is true.
These are your only choices.
Yeah, you can get Vaughn with no shirt, or you can get these dudes.
I mean, you know, someone posted a picture of fucking, what's his name?
Fifteen Boy knocked us just wearing like a big goofy jacket and cap, you know,
and you're just kind of like, yeah, it's like, this was your major and you're
like, yeah, that was that was done wrong with that.
Not wrong with that, you know, prompting the boys, they're, they're there.
They're doing their thing.
You know, that's fine.
I think, I think the funniest thing is that we have like the, the post that was
the classic red armor, like fighter.
I saw that.
Yes.
Original.
And then right next to it is the redraw a mana with the blue armor and all the
spikes and the, the flowing cape and then the, the really aggressively like sexy
man horror one from God, what was it?
Like ex-vuius or something with the flaming red hair that people got all,
people got all mad because his lats were showing and he was like a sex freak and
all the chicks were crazy and all the boys were crazy.
Mobius, that was him.
And then this dude, Jack, right?
And it's like, these are all the same character.
Like, like I've never seen a wider variation.
So like in, in, in, in depiction, when I see that fighter with the red hair, I
just think of like eight bit theater, you know, with, with the
silk chucks and all that stupid shit.
And I started to get confused talking about Final Fantasy one because it was
like, well, the party was, uh, was, uh, you know, fighter, black mage, red
mage and thief.
And then I'm like, wait, no, it's not.
That's eight bit theater.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Totally.
And white mage.
Yeah.
And it just said, and he, and, and black mage does a hodokin too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Totally.
No, the, the, the, the deal though is that like, you know,
fighters really stupid in that, in that depiction, but dare I say, Jack might be
worse.
Like it doesn't seem like a real person.
Jack comes off not just stupid.
Jack comes off like an insane person.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's, that's what it is.
And, and, and Nomura says he wants to write a story about angry man, which is
a hilarious thing to say in an interview.
Um, but Jack doesn't come off angry.
Jack comes off completely fucking unhinged.
Yeah.
Like it's wild.
All right.
Capcom is about to start in four minutes.
So we're keeping our eyes on that.
That's not true at all.
Capcom starts at 530 Eastern.
That's a lie.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Somebody in the chat is, is big lying.
Oh, anyway.
So yeah.
But I feel bad for Team Ninja.
I feel just like this is one of the botchiest reveals of the, of the week.
It seems, um, and the demo that might have proved, you know, like people, like
prove them right or wrong or whatever, the demo that might have proved it was
worth it.
Super broke doesn't even fucking work.
So on both fronts, the whole thing just falls apart.
Yeah.
It's, it's something just like there, I saw a tweet that made me think of this
and it was that there's somebody out there in an office that was going, it's
okay if everyone makes fun of it because the demo is going to blow them away.
That is just pacing in their office, smoking and freaking out right now.
So there's something about the timing of like this, this trailer too, and the
way it depicts things because I'm like, and like that, that era of like
mid-auts game, like action, whatever.
Because I did see, so I did see like a funny tweet complaining about like how
many different versions of the same game were announced effectively.
And I went to go check out Babylon's fall.
And this is the next thing I want to talk about.
Platinum's name is on that.
So you have Platinum's name of all my goodwill.
And I watched the trailer and like, I forgot what happened in the trailer before
it ended.
Have you recently watched the original trailer?
No.
You should.
Hold on.
Let me go and grab it for me.
It's the one of the most underwhelming trailers I've seen.
All right.
So if that, if that's fresh in your mind, I'm going to send you the original
trailer, literally watch any 10 seconds from it, literally anywhere at all.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
You will see that it is a Platinum.
Yes.
I'm looking at a Babylon's fall 2021 is a square.
And it's a game that Platinum, this guy's doing an aerial rave.
Yeah.
Okay.
So, oh, it's just not the same guy saw.
I saw people talking about this and take it with a grain of salt because it is
literally just people talking about this.
But supposedly square was very confused by Monster Hunter World success and has
been trying to figure out why they don't have one of those.
And whether or not that's true or not, when I look over at Babylon's fall and I
see that it is a live service game and it looks like complete goddamn shit.
And in the interview, we got guys saying it's like a near automata that you can
play for yes, it doesn't have.
Yes.
And then God shout out to Mr.
Fields goes out and gets frame one of near automata, which is everything
that lives is designed to end.
Yeah.
This is like corporate's hand reaching down and puppeting a corpse level shit.
Yeah.
I'm I'm okay.
Well, this makes a lot more sense now.
We saw a version of this game that was much more Platinum.
And now it's whatever the fuck that was.
I like again, not being done justice by its really like awkward voiceover
throughout the trailer at the same time.
Super underwhelming with that in that regard.
And then you're just watching the combat and I'm like, this is nothing.
I'm just I have like less than zero interest in any of this.
So I have I am not the person to make this this discussion like this point.
But the people who made it are many and are right.
The game's art style is terrible.
It legitimately looks like a smeared YouTube video on purpose.
If you saw the screenshots, Nibelian tweeted out that are a direct feed.
And if you go look at the up close like ground and like the foliage and such,
it's yeah, it has a blur to it that's supposed to look painterly.
But the effect just looks artifacted.
It looks like you're running your stream in 240p.
Very strange decision alongside a game that is also not like impressive in its,
you know, in its combat or or fucking, you know, voice acting of capacity.
And and live service that they showed 35 minutes of Marvel shit.
So yeah, man.
Now, Min, I did see he tweeted out a thing where they announced ahead of time
that this was going to be a primarily Square Enix Montreal presentation,
not a Square Enix like Japan presentation.
Yeah, even under that context, it still fell really flat.
They spent 20ish minutes on a really mediocre looking
Guardians of the Galaxy game that when it was about halfway through,
I said out loud if this game is coming out in six months or less,
it is going to be a fucking disaster.
And then the end of the demo comes up and goes October 2021.
And it's like, oh, shit.
So the the telltale one came and went as far as I know.
And I heard people enjoyed that.
But yeah, these the Square Universe Avengers
games, Avengers, and I guess now Guardians games,
like there's absolutely this weird quality of like, well,
I know you're not you're trying to say this is not the likeness
of the actor in the movie, but it's clearly the energy of the character
from the movie and you're not going like
like, for example, Deadpool when they they brought Deadpool in
like they kind of there's a there's a point where you can go like, all right,
they're they're going more so comic book based than, you know,
movie based and such.
And you can kind of see like there's where they pull in enough original
material and so on. And here I kind of felt like I'm like, you're kind of just
trying to slightly dodge not having Chris Pratt.
So it's the same complaint that that I and many other people made
about the Avengers game, which is you've decided to go for a hyper realistic style.
So the first thing people are going to say is that's not Robert Downey,
Junior, that's not Chris Pratt, like go cartoon and then that problem goes away.
Did you watch the demo?
No, I just saw the trailer.
So, Wally, Guardians of the Galaxy, right?
Who are you excited to play as?
The team.
Star Lord, that's right.
Yeah. Star Lord only. Yeah.
I when the gameplay started in the trailer and I was like looking
and I was waiting for the camera to switch and then they just instead of
switching, it just said, you are Star Lord.
And it was like, oh, man, like missed opportunity to have a fun group section.
You know, missed opportunity to to mix it up and do some fun things with that,
especially since Avengers was selling the whole roster in the in the fucking
bits and pieces that it did.
Maybe that's why it's going to come out so soon, though.
Maybe that's why October 2021. Maybe. Right.
And then you watch the Star Lord gameplay and it's an auto lock on third
person shooter and you hit the like the face buttons for the other cast members.
And they do like an attack and it's like, man, it looks weak.
Yeah, it looks real weak.
That's great. And then the most upsetting thing is they go,
and we're going to remake Final Fantasy one and six in the pixel style that you want.
And then they showed a logo and then they didn't show it.
So I just saw there's actual side by side pixel comparisons.
And it's it's weird because they they're they're not doing like a blurry
dumb filter. They are.
It is pixel art, but it's new pixel art.
And again, some and it's and it's like a it's from what I can see,
like the quality varies from character to character.
But they've but it's redone pixel art.
It's just clean up the yeah, it's unclear why they went that route.
But that's like, that's all anyone wants.
All anyone wants is the fucking
Super Nintendo or possibly GBA.
But there's a supreme resistance to actually delivering the that stuff.
So it's still got to be like, let's be nostalgic about that
and bring you that energy, but not actually give you the thing, though.
We're going to do other things.
We're going to still it's got to we got to do something here.
We can't just give it to you as it was.
Yeah, I'm not sure.
I mean, again, I don't I don't as someone who, you know, hasn't played
a lot of the classic FFs, like I'm not going to be able to.
It's totally pointless.
It's like people are saying they have to redo the the the sprites
because they're not on CRT monitors anymore.
But the new sprites have the same problem in that they look like
they were built for CRTs.
Like some of the characters proportions change significantly.
Some of their hair colors change.
It's it's pointless.
It's totally pointless.
Yeah, like I don't get it.
Anyway, so that's that's what they're doing.
Any any update on that?
FF seven, the entire story told through
she be fat characters, mobile game.
Nope, they showed a trailer for the Battle Royale game for your phone.
What was that thing called?
The first soldier. OK.
Well, cool.
Anyways, they also showed off like a weak ass fucking
life is strange remastered look like identical.
Yeah, anyways, other other other upper
Decker news, Elden Ring is real.
Hey, yeah, the ring.
Not only is it real, it's the same trailer that leaked out.
I mean, listen, so here's the thing about it is like that shit was hot.
It was fucking sick, but also as soon as it cut to the naked guy
and it was showing like just their what their humans look like.
I was like, God damn it, you still have it fucking attempted.
To to get any better or more like modern with your your your character models.
Like they they haven't leveled up any of that shit at all.
Put the armor on and just it's fine in the shiny new armor.
But their people still look fucking like like they're from ten years ago.
You know, they don't give a fuck. Yeah.
But it looks incredible. It looks so good.
And they while there is like.
The the the environmental and the armor design and the monsters.
Oh, man, it looks immaculate and you're going to get a magic horse
because it's going to be a yeah, yeah, that's how you fucking create
the problem and then solve it immediately.
Is your horse disappears and reappears as you summon it on the spot?
Yeah, just fucking it's a magical shut up shut up.
Now, but but but take take the the human model in this game
and put it next to fucking chaos, man, and put that next to Babylon's fall, dude.
You know, and we were looking at the same era here, guys,
like let's not fucking say words.
The the the trailer came out and the trailer looks great.
And more importantly than that is that there was an interview
with IGN with Miyazaki that has a lot of deeds.
So I only got through the first little bit
because I was reading it right before we started.
Big thing off the jump.
I can see six worlds, six bosses all interconnected from a hub world.
You can play it in any way.
I got a whole cliff notes here that that my did Nibelion put together.
Thanks, man.
So it's going to have a world map.
Like like a hub, like, you know, like a like a breath of the wild kind of zone,
like a big open area that has a little mini dungeons and castles and shit.
And that will have a map.
There will be a map for that zone, an in game map.
But after that, on the edges, there will be six major they're called.
They're calling them dungeons that will each be
realmed by a demigod, which says to me that they are splitting
the difference between demon souls and Dark Souls one.
Which is about as ideal as I could have possibly won.
So I'm going to go ahead and just create a role play scenario in my head
where Miyazaki and the translation team were sitting or Skyping
or zooming with George R. R. Martin, and they were describing their games
and and the immersiveness of their atmosphere.
And then George R. R. Martin was like, OK, so let's start drawing up a map.
And they're like, oh, we don't usually make maps in our game.
We don't. And then he would put a fucking map in it.
Because his his worlds are nothing but maps.
The fucking Westeros, East Isos, all those maps like that's his whole thing.
His whole thing is maps. How dare you?
So let's see.
Their confidence can arrive on the release date.
There's a character creator.
There's multiple endings.
They describe that there'll be a much higher degree of freedom
so that there is an there's like a suggested order through the six
dungeons, but you can go pretty much wherever.
Optional bosses, the battle art system from Dark Souls 3 will return,
but it won't be fixed to your weapon.
You can just pick it. It'll be more like Sekiro.
So those cool, fancy super shits that you were seeing the characters do.
Those will be things that you can just pick and equip.
A whole lot of there will be spirits like that act like summons,
and some of them will be useless, useless.
OK, there will be useless spirits that have other traits.
OK, it's good. It's good.
I like this in the trailer.
It's more.
Well, OK, no, go ahead with the points.
Multiplayer is going to be mostly in the open fields
and you can't ride your horse when you're playing multiplayer.
And then the games, the games difficulty is going to be more manageable
than prior games because you will have more options to deal with
in with the environment and no horse in multiplayer.
So that must mean that the walls,
the fog walls are still going to go up in the area you're in.
I think what it's really going to mean is that when you load in other characters,
there's only so far you can get away from each other.
OK, before like the game goes, fuck off.
When they did show off like,
you know, the combat and stuff,
they were really emphasizing horse jousting.
Like there was like three or four different shots of like,
look at the horse fight, though, you know.
So I feel as if even if that's not going to be something you get in multiplayer,
it's going to be heavily pushed in the single player aspects of the game.
Like it's being pushed heavy in the trailer.
One of the last most interesting things in this interview
is that they said that they intentionally made the fall damage really low
so that you can explore without being punished too severely.
Which, thank God, that's cool.
If you can like jump off your horse and get some extra
fall like leeway, you know, that'd be interesting.
It the game might have a fucking straight up jump button,
which would make the game play dramatically different.
Well, didn't like it shows you the horse crossing a chasm at some point.
Yeah, but that could be a auto.
It could be a cinematic.
That could be the run sprint jump thing.
What's most interesting to me is this is the the first post
Sekiro Souls type of game.
And I would assume that they would have taken some of the lessons
they learned in making Sekiro control much better than a Dark Souls game.
And put it on a do you think it's possible that seeing as Miyazaki has said
to us Dark Souls is over, right?
And yeah, when and then they the next and then they made Sekiro.
And like we've known about Elden Ring for a bit here.
Is it possible that like in as much as they're kind of being
like they're they're making it's like, hey, we're doing souls with
Georgia or Martin on our side, like there could be a willing departure
within the studio that like doesn't want to just make the same thing
as much anymore and they want to emphasize the differences.
So while not necessarily Sekiro, I could see like you said, a jump button.
I could see a major change to things like stamina, you know,
or like durability or the way weapons work.
Like I could see them trying to still distance this.
I have a strong suspicion that the end of the Dark Souls series
and the reason this is not called Dark Souls for is more due to deals
about the name Dark Souls than it has to do with anything else.
Could because I believe Namco technically owns part of the name Dark Souls.
But I guess if you just like if we could see an interior
in an internal poll right now, as far as like how many of the people
at the studio on the team want to like make games that even if they're not
souls in like name their souls in strict formula.
Oh, this is Dark Souls for like, let's all be fucking for real.
Yeah, but it's like, no, and yes, yes, yes, for sure.
But but I mean that like fucking what I mean, what I'm talking about
is like on a system level, I can see them trying out wild shit
that they usually that they usually wouldn't have gone with
like the like like the Sekiro being super different in that regard.
If you want to be an asshole, you could say this is like Kingsfield
like eight or nine or 10 or whatever the fuck it would be.
Like they have kind of been making this type of game over and over for like 20 years.
It's just they only got popular relatively recently.
And you also like big like, well, I mean, again, they're emphasizing the horse part.
But you do get away with trying new shit out without people going fuck this
compared to the last three games, you know, yeah, because it's like,
well, this doesn't belong to that series.
So the series is one thing.
The world is one thing.
But then the mechanics are also storied and become part of the legacy of the IP.
You start a new IP, you can do like new shit.
You look at this and like it's this is you could you like you remember
what like Bloodborne's different, right?
Even though we know internally, Bloodborne was called Beast Souls for a while.
Like I would not be shocked if this was called Elton Souls at some fucking point in the room.
Souls.
Yes, whatever.
Yeah, like that trailer was fucking hot.
Wolf guts.
That's a hot.
Wolf guts is hot.
Mask lady.
The tree.
Like a lot of people don't even realize that the tree is like the probably the most
overt Berserk reference there has ever been.
But like it is a defining moment of the end of one of Berserk's arcs
that a big magic white tree appears.
Eldry.
So we got the introduction to the story as well in that interview
where they kind of explain that there are there is a there's a big old God tree
and then there's a whole bunch of sacred, blessed people.
And then those who walked away from it became tarnished.
But now they're being called back.
I'm a big fan of from soft desire to give the player character a name
that essentially translates into fucking.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Every one of our names that like NPCs can call you.
That's like you and your kind.
You know, you lesser than you love humans.
You fucking you the icky's.
Yeah, all the icky's you get away from us smellies.
Let's get away from a stinky butt boy.
Yeah.
Ah, yes, the poo poo smelly one.
I have awaited your arrival.
Oh, yeah, no, there it is.
It's like, oh, oh, low, woe is me.
It is the pee pee poo poo bitch boy here to take the Elden Ring.
My ring pee pee poo poo bitch boy.
Is this what you want?
Yeah, it's it's very clear that it's just like it's it's you're meant to be called
the fucking the diseased gross nasty thing that nobody wants in every game.
Yeah, 100 percent.
It's great. And and at least you know, I'm excited for Elton ring now.
And you know, so far they they the the edge Lord within us is like, yeah,
but I like being tarnished.
I'm the I'm the one no one wants.
It's cool, but I say, I say, why not commit to some actually embarrassing
shit that you can't make feel cool?
Oh, man.
I wonder what I wonder what the possible universe justification
for the respawn is going to be this time.
I don't know.
When you're sacred, you you go to heaven when you die.
And if you're not, then you get stuck on this shitty mortal.
Yeah, sure. Fuck it.
Fuck it and whatever. Go go collect your money.
Shut up, you know.
And and and I wonder how Corpse running is going to work on a giant with a horse.
Oh, you're right.
Um, so in Neo, you can go to an eye at one of those idle
one of those shrines and just pay to buy your souls back.
But that's because that's interesting, but there's there's different currencies,
you know, but like you can basically just be like, yeah,
I don't want to do a corpse run right now. Fuck it.
So I don't know.
We'll see. Yeah, looks great. Looks hot.
Then. We saw.
Yeah, OK, well, there's a there's a there's a wait a second.
I just popped up in the the fucking Capcom thing
and they're talking about Monster Hunter Rise, right?
Yeah, but is this the pre like Capcom talk?
Oh, it's probably the pre things.
That's I hate the pre things have fooled me over and over.
Yeah, stop having pre.
Yeah, the pre. The pre is messy.
Then you got to get your.
You don't need to get your toilet paper to clean up the pre.
All right, I'm going to go take a piss.
When I come back, we should probably switch over to the Capcom shit.
All right, which is going to be a time travel moment for you guys.
So yeah, so the podcast will just zoop on over.
Go pee and wipe up your pre.
I know. OK, don't wipe up your pre.
See what happens. OK, I'll let it.
Yeah, I'll sit in it.
Do you want me to stop recording the podcast and to start a new one later?
Yes, OK, I'll do that.
Do you want to go to be right back before we do that?
Sure.
All right, well,
there was that.
So Kevin Smith is working on a new he man.
Have you heard about that?
I've seen the trailer for the new he man.
Yeah, it looks all right.
I was, you know what?
As someone who is too old or rather, I was not too old opposite.
I was too young to get into Masters of the Universe as a kid.
That was more so my brother's era.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was just because it was happening.
But it was like it was just ahead of my and my childhood, basically.
Uh, the the it was cool.
The trailer dropped.
It was like, yeah, that's that's that looks that looks pretty all right.
And tactical use of we need a hero
with the with the drums and such was pretty cool.
And then a day later,
that song was used again in.
What the fuck was it?
The Guardians Guardians, it was the Guardians trailer.
Yeah. Yeah.
And I was just like, oh, OK, well, I guess, yeah, you can.
Here's the same song used good in here, not used, not as good.
But sure, not quite as good.
Well, I mean, at the very least,
they kind of dropped back to the to the vocal refrain.
So that was that was dope.
But yeah, I never had human toys or anything like that again.
It was just it was like a slightly ahead of my my era and generation thing.
But like that was around and Shiro was around and and
Thundar, the barbarian, was what I do remember watching,
which was the Hanna-Barbera attempt at I think
I think trying to ape on on He-Man money.
But maybe it came first.
I don't know.
Doesn't seem like it, though.
It was awful either way.
And I don't know shit about any of that shit.
Yeah, there was he man was man.
By the power of Grayskull and stuff like, I know,
I know a lot about I know about like He-Man and the characters
and the stuff like that because my brother and my cousin used to play
with like, you know, like shouting his coats and using his toys and stuff.
But Mark Hamill's playing Skeletor and that's cool.
I think that the number one thing that I needed to know
out of He-Man was what Skeletor sounded like
so that that could inform the sound of every Skeleton's voice for the rest of my life.
Skull, uh, Skull, um, Skullmageddon basis.
OK, so Masters of the Universe.
Also that music video about what's going on.
Masters of the Universe started as a Mattel series in 1981
and Thundar the Barbarian started in 1980.
Holy shit.
Oh, man. But they're all Conan ripoffs.
Yeah. Yeah.
Conan. Sorry. Conan.
Yeah.
They're not ripoffs. Conan.
Oh, right. No, how can we sell Conan to the children?
That's true.
When was Conan written?
Long before us.
82 was the the movie, but.
Conan was definitely before that source material.
1932.
Yeah. OK. All right. Damn.
That's all the shit.
So, yeah, that looks cool.
That's almost as old as Humbdollar, man.
The man from Humbdoll.
Yeah.
From the from the forties or whatever the fuck the years are in that thing.
Although. No, that's a fake thing.
I just said.
No, you said the thing from the book series in Disco Elysium, which took.
Yeah. But I mean, that's not real.
That's that's a fake thing.
No, but yeah, I said from the forties as in like the because the dates in the
in Disco Elysium are like, oh, you're right.
The Disco Elysium does take place in the big old air quotes.
Forties, whatever that means.
Yeah.
It means a bunch of bullshit in that game.
I feel as if this is the first time because like Kevin Smith always has a bunch
of ideas that he's like, oh, I want to make like a this or that or comic of this
and do a thing like that.
But very it sounds like not as like very few of them
come to fruition, like I think he got to do a comic run on something at some point.
But this is after not hearing much
from him in a while, like this is OK, he's doing a he-man.
Yeah, cool.
Actually, he said it was supposed to be called end of the universe.
But Mattel, there's no way Mattel didn't want to do that.
So they went with Matt.
Got to have the name of the kids.
No, Masters of the Universe.
But no, that's but do they?
Yeah, because they know he-man.
But the series properly named Masters of the Universe doesn't
carry as much with people like people just say like, oh, yeah, he-man and Chira.
The brand is actually about brand.
It's but it's this is it's already a weird one where like, you know,
they're not saying the name of the franchise.
They're saying the name of the character.
It's it's it's it's like Shazam and Captain Marvel.
It's Shazam. No, it's not.
It's Captain Marvel, but he's Shazam, though.
That's just so stupid.
That's the problem when when the when you fuck up and you name a character
and then, you know, like you shouldn't have called it happy days.
You should have called it Fonzie.
Fonzie and friends Fonzie and his and his X-Men.
That's terrible.
That's goddamn awful.
Would have worked.
Would it?
So anyway, speaking of questionably working,
we have an answer to Tekken is three.
Oh, so it's funny because I it seems like everyone kind of caught
saw this earlier this morning when I when it got quote tweeted.
But that that episode went up actually two or three days ago.
And when it first popped up there, I saw that and I went, OK,
this is this is the answer.
This is what it is.
And it's it's surprisingly like close to what I thought was going on.
It is way closer to what I thought was going on.
Yes.
Then I expected it to be in my head.
My thoughts were like laugh.
They were cartoonishly stupid.
I know.
But I remember I remember that there was a moment that like kind of
opened up this entire rollback discussion with like, why is there
or how do the multiple different versions we see when it's implemented
in a way that doesn't work?
How what is exactly happening behind the scenes there?
Right. So to catch everyone up on the story here, there is a we talked
about Harada has a show now on YouTube.
Harada being the producer and director behind Tekken.
And he's got a podcast that talks about whatever.
And like, like I saw he had a video that, well, actually, the day
that Virtua Fighter got announced, Virtua Fighter Esports got announced.
He just had a post that said, come, Virtua Fighter.
You know, so it's like, yeah, you know, that's
he's got an outlet to speak.
And on one of the latest episodes of Harada's Bar, he went on to discuss
he asks, hey, can I basically go off for a minute?
Can I can I pop off?
Y'all mind if I praise Jesus for a second?
Mind if I kill chaos?
No. All right.
Well, he then basically is like, all right.
So everyone goes on using these buzzwords like rollback and net code,
but they don't understand what they're saying.
And I'm like, oh, boy, oh, boy, oh, boy, OK, let's hear it.
And he describes that essentially what you're seeing in Tekken
and like part of the meaning behind the infamous Tekken is three tweet
is that Tekken features rollback, but people are like,
but then why doesn't it feel like it?
Why does it seem like it's delay based and then it doesn't work
and that we have bad matches and stuff?
And he describes basically the technology that they're using
that features an input buffer at the front of basically all
the exchanges between systems.
So to not get too super lost in the in the code or whatever here,
there's a great video from code mystics.
And this is a video that describes how rollback works.
And it also describes how delay based works.
And it describes how you can have a blended code that uses both.
And this is exactly what I was wondering.
I'm like, I wonder if Tekken is using blended code.
And it turns out after Harada's description, it totally is.
So it's what happens is essentially is, you know, rollback is when you
simulate the inputs based on looking for, you know, what should have been pressed
when there's a discrepancy delay based is going to pause and wait for that input.
Blended is when you pause for a certain period of time.
And then run the essentially the simulation.
So there's a point at which I mean, a lot of games use that like
guilty gears using that because it's on a two frame delay on online matches.
So what you end up seeing right is exactly what you end up seeing is a
a set amount of for input delay that are that is like in some cases
like Mortal Kombat, for example, they they keep it at five so that it's consistent.
And then everything after that is going to be rollback based.
So any other input errors or any other major hiccups you feel are going
to be for things that go beyond those initial five frames of delay.
Depending. But Harada, why does my game still play like shit?
So what he kind of goes on to describe, he breaks it down in technical terms
and he describes like, you know, some of what was discussed at a GDC talk
about rollback and such.
But the end goal is you're going to have inconsistency when you play Tekken
because what Tekken does is sometimes it'll have that input delay be either
zero or three or up to five, depending on preconfigured readings on like
how far and how bad the quality of the person you're about to find it.
So if they ping poorly, then it's going to go.
We're just going to give you like five versus if they're right next to you
and you're using amazing Japanese like Internet, then you're going to be at zero.
And Tekken has always been in the arcades and has always had a legacy
of zero frames of input delay.
So in order to not throw it in order to preserve that, they felt that they
should keep it so that when connection is at its best, it should have zero.
But if it's bad, then it should drop to three or four or five,
depending on who you're connecting to.
And as a result, everyone has matches of variable quality
that sometimes feel good and sometimes feel bad.
And that leads to the world we are in, where on the other side of the planet,
we don't have zero frame input delay matches.
We have ones that go up and down, depending on, you know,
multiple variety of factors of the shitty Comcast Internet we're fighting
against or the Wi-Fi player or whatever the case is.
So it comes down to like if you put in a consistently, a consistent
well, key buffer is the term he uses there.
You could end up with a with overall matches feeling more consistent.
So it's a decision to preserve the way things used to feel in an arcade
like setting for those who happen to be in an environment that is that good.
I have to say, Willie, that might be the most charitable interpretation
of Herata's interview I've seen all day, because there were two major points
that you, I didn't see you gloss over ignored, but you didn't get to.
One of which is that when he describes why Tekken tends to have
sometimes a zero, zero input delay, sometimes he just starts
to either lie or make up shit where he says,
well, people talk about how Mortal Kombat works, but Mortal Kombat's
only been on home consoles, so they could just put delay in there.
Right.
Tekken started in the arcades.
Hard cut to a Mortal Kombat arcade machine.
Yes. Like what the fuck are you talking about?
How the fuck does somebody who's been making fighting games for 20 years
not know that Mortal Kombat came out in the arcades?
That is genuinely fucking baffling to the point where I assume he is lying.
There I refuse to believe that the guy who's been making Tekken
since the fucking mid 90s doesn't know that MK came out in the fucking arcades.
That's ridiculous. Be that be that as it may.
He is basically sticking with the inconsistency for
for potentially godlike matches as the reason why they they they will not have
a set, a set buffer, a set amount of input delay.
And so this.
Go ahead.
But but like the other reason like, well, you know, Tekken's from the arcades.
Like, yeah, the June 5th was the day this interview came out, right?
Guilty Gear Strive came out three three days later.
Guilty Gear is a series that came out in arcades, too.
The other point being the
discretion, the the the the difference between 2D and 3D games
and the way the animations play out.
Did you did you see because I saw the clip that.
OK, initially there was a there was an image and it was just
people use it was just an image of her out of saying people use buzzwords
like rollback and netcode without knowing what they're talking about,
which is admittedly that was a cut.
That was that was and then there was a clip after that,
which was two minutes of him going a bit further into it.
That's true.
And no, there are a lot of people that know you talk about it.
Let me let me.
Like it is true that people use those terms, but the the tone of saying
people use all these buzzwords implies that they don't know what those words
mean. People do know what those words mean.
Even if you don't know the technical reality of rollback, you still can
like reasonably conclude, hey, I played Guilty Gear Strive and Third Strike
Online Edition that had rollback and I had good online matches
with my friend across the country. Exactly.
So as yeah, it becomes so that that's where I was going to say deflection.
It becomes an argument of semantics because it's like, OK, so when he says
Tekken does already have rollback and people go, but but then what's the problem?
Right. There's never a second answer to that because effectively
or what he's describing here is indeed this is how Tekken does feature rollback.
It uses a blended a blended system, which again, if you watch that code
mystics video, it's fantastic and explaining a lot of this.
So, you know, not going to go down too hard down that that line.
But well, it features it.
But it is an answer.
But despite that, when someone, when people are typing the word rollback
in the Twitch chat during one of the streams or reveals for anything,
when people are like going off and screaming about it, despite the fact
that like people are talking about it without knowing what I'm
just knowing about, like the technical side of things.
The point is that people want to have matches that feel good.
And yeah, there are games where the matches feel good and there are games
where they don't.
He provides a real genuine answer to, hey, man, like, like, there's all
the technical things that we went over, some of which I am convinced
he is either making shit up or lying or doesn't know what he's talking about
because his comparison points are complete nonsense.
Like it's ignorant to a degree.
I actually can't believe which one.
But that the more combats only been on home consoles.
Yeah, that that's like that that's it's either it's that it's it's it's it's
almost it has to almost be like dismissiveness of the of the game.
You know, like I either intentional ignorance, which is kind of the
problem we're dealing with in general, or he's lying because I refuse
to believe he doesn't know better than Mortal Kombat has arcade machines.
That's that's completely ridiculous.
But when he when he says like, oh, you know, hey, how come my matches
are bad sometimes in in Tekken?
The real answer is that you don't live in Japan and that you should
wait 15 years for your network infrastructure to improve.
You see, it's not Tekken's fault.
It's your national infrastructure.
So those are those are again, those are those are the parts that he
mentioned the part about how like Japan has great netcode.
And, you know, perhaps we hope soon the world will have great Japan has
great netcode, Japan has good internet, and perhaps we hope soon the world
will have good internet, too.
And it's like, well, this is kind of the problem, though, right?
And if he literally says you just have to wait for your infrastructure to get
better. So it's those are.
So the OK, here's why I'm not like those two points, the part about the internet
in Japan and then the part about the Mortal Kombat cabinet stuff.
Those are throwaway lines to get to him describing the way the game works.
Right. So to me, those are just like whatever.
Ultimately, if he if you wanted to say, oh, Mortal Kombat 11 is not in arcades
or whatever, then like sure, it doesn't matter.
Like those are those are throwaway lines.
The the the the the the the the the crux that you get down to is one where it's
like he basically saying like everyone's saying we won't roll back, but we already
have it, right? But it's like if someone were there to be able to go like, OK,
but dude, the issue is the quality of the matches people are getting outside
of Japan, right? So like there's clearly a frustration with like the the the
you know, the the residents of Rollbackia, as Seijian would say,
being loud about their demands here.
But if I could only like if I could say anything to him, it would be.
In 2013 or rather, 2009, we first started hearing about G.G.P.O.
And like this has been over a decade.
Like it's if you're getting annoyed at the people asking for rollback
over the last two, three years now as it swells up to a fever pitch.
How do you think it felt for the last 10 years as really good
code has been ignored in everything a decade?
Well, they just just live in Japan, right?
So it's like the impatience that you'd be feeling like multiply that by over
a decade of fucking, you know, and it's just like it's it doesn't like saying
showing that it has blended code doesn't make the problem go away.
You know, the 3D example given problem goes away if you just live in Japan or
wait 15 years. Yeah. So shut up.
The 3D example listed as well is basically saying that games that have really
like games, the games that are 2D tend to have like animation frames that are
like more that are less smooth, deliberately so.
So hit stop and start up and things like that.
You'll see a big wind up and then something will like happen and then hold
that frame for a bit longer than usual.
Whereas Tekken is a lot of smooth, constant movements.
There's not a whole lot of deliberate start and stop, you know,
or squash and stretch with their animation.
But at the end of the day, it's like, OK, so then the trade off is you're
saying that it'll things will end up being jittery anyway, right?
And it's like, well, they'll be jittery in circumstances where you're having
a bad quality match with someone.
But the circumstance you're comparing it to to say that it would be jittery,
it's not fair to compare it to an otherwise perfectly smooth match.
You'd be comparing it to a shit match with bad quality delays where the game
just freezes up entirely.
So between having a jittery match where there's rollbacks occurring and one
where there's these constant delays and the whole thing fucking desyncs,
you go with the one that makes the animation jump forward a bit more than
like, at least you can play the match out, you know, it's no,
just live in Japan or wait, 50.
Are you not listening?
So that that was a false equivalency.
And that was that was that was frustrating because it's like you're basically
saying like, yeah, it's between zero frame matches or these, these ones
that'll look weird for 3D animation.
And it's like, it's better than not being able to fucking play it properly.
You know, so it's, it's just whatever.
Tekken's never going to play well online.
Like that, that's the, that's the reality.
This is intentional ignorance towards the end of it.
If you go, so here's the thing, like beyond the two minutes,
I listened to the rest of the episode, right?
If you hear where he goes off off of that point towards the end of it,
he does describe that like, we can increase the amount of rollback
frame frames one way or the other, which when you're using blended code,
you can, you, there's a literally a slider in the code mystics options
that they show you, like how many set frames of input delay do you want?
How many do you want to go rollback or whatever?
And they could modify that and tweak it in the future.
So, and he kind of implied that, like, that's something that we could do.
But right now the commitment to maintaining that arcade quality match
of zero input delay, zero input buffering, key buffering, as he says,
is what is keeping things where they are.
You're going to have inconsistent matches because we're trying
to keep arcade quality where possible.
And if everything moves forward in this strive pattern of like,
well, now you're the only one not doing it and you're going to hear
bad feedback about it.
I don't think he's going to get to die on this hill in the long run.
That's the one thing it's it's like, if other Japanese developers
start embracing it, I don't, I think they're going to have to move forward.
I do.
Like it is it is it is more arrogant and hard headed than even my most
negative expectation.
I think the the idea of like, again, at least the way it's described
in in in from code mystics and what they do, the idea of the blend
can and does work in certain circumstances.
But it's a case by case basis, right?
Every game is not going to have a a uniform solution for that.
And in the case they described, like this one where they allow you
to set it yourself in the options and go as far one way or the other way as possible.
But when you design something that works well for me and then you're like,
all right, let's do extensive testing.
And the extensive tests consist of going from Hokkaido to Okinawa or so.
Yeah, or yeah, I just it's like it's like nailed it.
You know, it's nailed it, motherfucker.
I mean, it's just not it's not going to fly when it lands internationally.
And you know this, man, you know, so anyway, I think the absolute most
baffling thing about this whole story is that from a different interview,
just a little while ago, Harada's like, oh yeah, 95 percent of Tekken's total
sales comes from outside of Japan, which is why I don't think what what the fuck,
which is why I say you he's not going to be able to die on the hill, you know,
that's it. But if we get another fighting game roundtable where the focus of discussion
is how to improve the AI, just fucking just throw it all out, burn it to the ground.
In the time that it in the time that we have been talking about this,
I have taken a photo of Harada and a photo of an ad for the Stadia and incorporated
them into the office meme about corporate needs you to find the differences between
this picture and this picture, because that's how I feel like that is literally
what Phil Harrison said to interviews about people going, what about people
who's Internet sucks shit? How are they going to play Stadia? And he goes, oh,
don't worry, the infrastructure will improve to support it. It's like the national infrastructure
of the United States or the UK or Canada or Mexico or South America is not going to fucking
improve to accommodate fucking Tekken. Well, I'll have you know, this is the part of the
discussion where Blitzcode ain't going anywhere. Blitznet code is coming back and you're going
to see it again because essentially the core of that and the way Stadia is the way that Stadia
looked at it is the way that even for Honor handled it, where it's essentially server wide
rollback, right? Where it's the entire server is compensating for desyncs for desyncs and
lost packets as opposed to on a player by player basis. You're going to see this again.
That shit played great, huh? And it's going to, you know, depends on where you live
and depends on your depends on your do we even get to do we even talk about virtual
fighter fives netcode for real race creed and culture? You know, I did. Did we get a chance
to talk about racist netcode? I don't think we did. I don't think we did. Oh, okay. Well,
um, yeah, the racist netcode became a term not too long ago. The core idea behind which is
that virtual fighter eSports came out and yeah, instead of using rollback, they went with
something similar to Blitznet code, which is essentially it's going to be you're going to
get better and worse matches depending on how close you are to a data server and the data
servers are located in various hotspots around the planet, one of which is in Montreal. So yeah,
us. But if you happen to be anywhere on the entire content of Africa, there is not one to be found.
So Max did some extensive testing with that and discovered that that that Google server thing
is actually super old. Oh, and in fact, there are actually African servers, servers all over
the place. Fantastic. However, he was tracking his connections to those servers. And what he
discovered is that in a bunch of matches that he had with people in the UK, he was being pinged out
to servers in Africa. Oh, he wasn't using the LA one. And I played a bunch of matches against him
and ran into a situation where I was playing with him with 12 frames of input lag.
Like it was unplayable. And he was no problem. And then we idled in the lobby for a while while
he did something. And then when it came back, the match was fine. And suddenly me and him were
both sharing about five frames of input. Did it switch you to another data data server? The same
experience I had when I was playing with Susie. And I was playing with Susie and we had like five
matches. Two were underwater for me. One was underwater for her. And then the other two were
kind of okay. Oh, man. And they were fucking switching between servers on a per match basis.
Oh, God, it's the same. That it's complete garbage. Yeah, like it is on I on ironically way
worse than regular delay based net code, because I kept getting in a situation where my matches were
completely unplayable. And every time I got one that felt like local, I was sure that the other
person was having dying all the delay dying because I was dominating. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Oh, man. That is like the net fucking loss is still the same in that it's like inconsistency
sucks there. You know, it just it's yeah, and you're going to start to see you're going to start
to see games try to work this in and and and and, you know, fighting games should be fucking
running from this. Although I hear it works well in Brawlhalla for some reason.
I don't know about that. I hear it works in Brawlhalla and I hear it works
in for honor. But yeah, for honor, you're running 16 person matches. Yeah, it's a different entire
setup requirement. But it's I just like and and the point that Max made was like these servers
cost a lot of money. This is assuredly going to be just as if not more expensive than implementing
rollback. But it's also time limited. Definitely. Eventually, they will turn those servers off.
Yeah. Right. The cost of the cost to the to the to the developer, the cost to the
producer to whoever is not one that they're going to permanently absorb for games as they
get older or out of the spotlight 100%. Yeah, the the conversation about net code and fighting
games. And I know we've talked a lot about it, but this past two week period has become
like the the peak of absurdity. Yeah, no, like going through the biggest hoops possible to spend
the most money available to have bad net code. And then you have Harada making shit up. And in the
middle of that is Strive coming out and plays great. Yeah. And I know that like any excuse we
have to go back on the topic is one that is, you know, like exhausting for some, but it's like
this has been like two weeks of like major information in regards to this thing happening. So
like you can see a perfect trifecta of like three games, all approaching it differently.
And only one are people like having the time of their life with, you know,
it just it's like at some point, you just have to look and go, well, the results speak for themselves,
whatever your philosophical differences are, if it comes down to a difference of philosophy,
if you want to talk about maintaining the arcade zero frame integrity, look at the
response and the people and how they feel about the quality of their matches. And you're just
going to have to take the numbers of people playing Strive. Strive has dominated the numbers on
the numbers on fighting games on steam. There's nothing that's ever even come close.
It's good. Well, I mean, it's a brand new release and it's a hot shit. And
no, but what I mean is it's all time peak on its hot new release demolishes other games as hot new
releases. Oh, okay. Okay. Well, you know, I'll fucking tighten up my tie and say that some of
my my lower explanations had something to do with the other ArcSys game with the most popular
fighting game IP ever. Me telling everyone about about being sad about missing wife and killing
wife has had a tangible effect. I've got some numbers. People tell me a wife. People tell me
they picked it up because of those fucking super nerd out videos. So yeah, I'll take that credit.
They got to go back and spend the time to fucking put roll back in DBZ, man. Come on.
That game will live fucking forever. Samurai showdown needs it more.
Samurai showdown isn't an ArcSystem Works game. Well, yes, this is true. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. And they also showed off that Metal Slug game, which looks pretty fucking incredible.
But anyway, but there's a bunch of feel bads around it. Yeah. Well, what are you going to do?
You know, I'll tell you what we'll do. Hey, hey, you know, when the feel bads are around your game
or in your game, because they're necessary for the setting, make sure that you don't acknowledge
the feel bads. Battlefield 2042 says the climate apocalypse and referee a refugee crisis are only
in the game for gameplay reasons, not for social commentary.
There is no goddamn way that describing the refugees has any gameplay viability at all.
Like it just falls on its face completely flat. It's the it's the reason why the
it's the crowd of people running in front of you while you're having your fight.
Yeah. Unless on the maps, there's like a swarm of tired and hungry people that you have to drive
your tank over. I mean, no, it doesn't like that's flavor, which means like, yeah. So they now here's
the thing, right? As we enter this insane fucked up world where all of this shit becomes more and
more real to the point where it makes Hideo Kojima sad, because when he comes on to talk about the
new Death Stranding director's cut, all he can talk about is, hey, everyone, I'm sorry for predicting
the world so right. I'm sorry for being so right so hard. I'm going to have to try to change how I
make games from now on, because Death Stranding hit too close to home, right? There's there's a
weird element of like, God complex when he was talking about that, because it's like, it always
always like, I'm sorry for causing this. It was crazy by making this. It was fucking crazy.
I couldn't like, I couldn't believe it, you know, because it's like, yes, genius Kojumbo has been
right about many things over the years. And he specifically referenced 9 11 for the second time,
you know, when he's describing this, and he's like, I'm going to have to basically think about how I
tell stories from now on, because he feels bad about how close to reality they all ended up being
too real, bro. And it's just like, well, I guess then we're going to gumdrop land,
you know, for his for his own comfort. But dude, I don't even know what that means. I have no idea
gumdrops. I like, like just, you know, like whatever as far away from possible from reality
as possible, because the isolation and then 2020 just were like fucking hand in hand on Death Stranding.
It was, it was nuts. Personally, I fucking applaud that shit. It's, I think it's incredible,
but he felt bad about it, right? So all this to say that like when your game approaches
reality in this weird dystopian way, and you decide to pull a David Cage and talk about how,
nope, nope, it's just for this. It's just questions. Who knows what it's about, which is the setting,
right? There's a climate apocalypse happening, but don't worry about it. It's just, here's the
quote. It's definitely purely a multiplayer game for us. We decided to go this route so we could
create a narrative in the world through the eyes of the no pats. Of course, there's the fucking,
yeah, you had your, your bit with that, of course. PMC's rolls off the tongue a little bit nicer,
I suppose. It felt fucking weird to wake up to that. Oh, like that was a joke about a joke about
you not being, not being there and not existing. It was, was weird to wake up to, was it?
No, not about not existing, though I do understand what you mean. And that is weird
about being denied to entry into like the, the planet. It's like an, it's an era of no pats.
It's like, oh geez, I'm sorry. So, you know, as it's so, so credit to the, so, and this is a,
it's an IGN article that was written about this for Battlefield 2042. And the person who wrote
the article correctly points out that like, so this happened with like Far Cry before and
all these triple A games and like, there's always going to be a level of don't touch on the no,
no topics, even though it's obvious what we're talking about, lest we get John Cena. It's going
to become big John Cena. Yeah, or the, or the, the, the fist in fucking whatever the fucking
Ubisoft game was, it's going to become clear that like, you're not going to refrain from using
clearly political commentary. You're just going to refrain from acknowledging it. And you're going
to then essentially say that like, we're just taking inspiration from this for gameplay purposes.
And as the article points out, what's fucked up about that is the idea that like, you can see
all of these like wild and crazy, like misery apocalypse filled futures that are just around,
around the horizon coming, but you're only fascinated in the aesthetic of how they look
for the next map of your multiplayer mode. Like that's, I think the goofiest, you have,
you have 2020 clear eyes on what's around the corner. And the only thing you're thinking is,
man, that would be a really cool fucking set piece.
There's, I don't know if you saw, but there was a slight update to the
shenanigans with Far Cry six and the Ubisoft says Far Cry six isn't political,
which was kind of amazing. What's the update? Because, because they were doing an interview.
I want to say it was with IGN in which they said, oh, it's not political. And then
the, the articles come out that it's like, well, this game features,
you know, communist dictatorship, it features fascism, it features ethnic cleansing and a feature
slavery. And Ubisoft says it's not political, which then became Ubisoft has nothing to say
about whether or not slavery is good or bad. Right, right, right, right. And then the director
of the game, like a couple of days later, just finally did it. He's like, of course it's political.
Yeah, we have a comment. Of course we're using this, but it's not about Cuba specifically, but
you know, there's a lot of themes and it's like, we finally did it. All you had to do was put
fucking Eve's Guillermo's face next to the words, I don't know about slavery, maybe it's a good idea.
And finally they go, oh, okay, fine. Now, fine. And, and, and just to just to put out there,
because I feel like almost like you pretty much have to, obviously, clearly for anyone who can't
parse this, any game can choose to make social commentary or not social commentary if they
want to, if that's their decision, and there's nothing wrong with going either way on it.
You can go all in or you can go all out. It's a medium. You can do whatever you want with a medium,
right? When you choose to do it and then back the fuck off and pretend you're not doing it,
don't piss on my head and tell me it's raining. Fuck you. It's clear. So that's the difference.
It's not the choice one way or the other. Dude, dude, it's raining, though.
It's fucking pouring outside. It's super. Oh, here's the thunder.
Dreads absorb the rain and dreads absorb the hail. They get the hair gets wet for, you know,
all heavy. I got to squeeze it out. Dry it with a towel. What the fuck? Oh my god, did we not fucking
talk about David Cage? Was that in the past two fucking weeks? I guess. I guess it was. I guess
it was. Holy fucking shit. All right. Give me a second. I mean, like it's been an ongoing story
about how the stupid conditions working at Quantic Dream have caused lawsuits to occur,
because people were mad and comfortable. And then in court, it sounds like they were presented with
direct quotations of things that he said. Oh, did you not read the full article?
I did. I did. But or at the very least, I read the breakdown of, no, not the full article,
but like what? Okay, so I can. It starts with. I'll break it down for you because I read it over
and over and over and over. They're suing two French newspapers. The two French newspapers that
reported that their studio is a toxic shit hole are being sued by Quantic Dream because they're
saying we're not a toxic shit hole. How dare you say that we're a toxic shit hole? And the newspaper
says fucking bring it on, you pussies. So two things happen. David Cage got onto the stand
and to prove the newspaper's point, the defense attorney for the newspaper said,
Mr. Cage, we got some quotes here from you. And he says, he goes, ah, you're interfering with my
honor. You're interfering with my business. He goes, well, hold on, let's go over some quotes
of things that you've talked about. Now, these are translations, though I went to the French
article myself and read them myself so I can tell you that these translations are accurate.
The number for the first of which is there's a quote from Dave Cage about all the women in
my games are horse. The second is very bizarre. And it's that in the open space, there's a lack of
tits. My best guess on that is that he is complaining that like the work lounge or like lunch area
doesn't have boobs on the walls. That's all I can figure out from that. It's a very bizarre quote.
And the fucking king is that Quantic Dream does not make games for and then he uses the slur for
gay people. The F slur. Yes. So the F slur. Correct. And upon hearing all of this, he stammered out
that they were interfering with his business, stomped his feet and ran from the courtroom in
tears. Now, I don't know about you, but to me, that sounds like an emotion button press prompt
was pressed. Sure does. That sounds like an R one button to me. Another one of the things that
brought up in the trial is the management knew and was cool with employees photoshopping each
other's heads onto porn or Nazi photos and leaving them around the office as a goof. Then they get
the CEO of Quantic Dream up there, which is Guillaume de la Fondation. And they ask him about
their hiring and firing practices and note that they are fucky. And when he presented, here's a
good example of us firing somebody illegally, the defense attorney looked it over and went,
there is tons of illegal shit in this. And then they provided more documentation,
all of which were copy pasted firing notices. And they're like, why do these look so fucking sketch
upon which the the CEO looks at the judge and says, well, since I'm not under oath,
that means I can lie, right? And just making a bunch of crazy accusations about society and
people out to get him. It's good. All in all, those newspapers are going to be fucking fine. I
think those are the realest emotions I've heard in a long time. That that's real, like they get it.
You know, welcome to Montreal, Quantic Dream. It is it is enormously satisfying that we have
been calling this fucking idiot out since 2005 way before we started working in this industry.
I remember sitting there with you talking about fucking indigo prophecy.
Yeah, I think I'm going, man, this is a bunch of bullshit.
No, I think the first moment that like you cut like that we kind of you sent something off
is him dancing in the training thing, right with the with the with the girl with the main character
in her underwear. That's the that's the credits. Okay, then then it's then it's her falling in
love with zombie man and fucking him right away for no reason, despite your your best efforts
to make it not happen, even if you wanted to. It was the it was the it was the it was the Chinese
guy in the library. Okay. All right, you know what, fine. That's that would that was that that
was the instant in time. It should have been you were like, oh, it should have been Omicron.
If we were growing chronologically, if we if we had known, but we had known
that is some hilarious karmic shit.
It's it puts so much of it back into a different context, because one of the things that we had
all been accused of when we did those LPs is that we weren't giving them a chance and that we were
always assuming the most negative possible interpretation of the direction of those scenes,
which has now been confirmed to be completely accurate.
The direction of those scenes led to Elliot Page suing him.
Every point that you're like, this can't possibly be this creepy or awful or horrible or racist or
misogynist or whatever on purpose. No, it was on purpose. It was actually totally on purpose.
So those moments that on those moments of are we are you jumping into another person's body to
have a weird cuck scene where you fuck the guy's wife inside of the body and and you're like,
what what is this actually what it appears to be? And it's like, it's absolutely what it appears
to be. That's a hundred percent intentional. Every one of those moments of like, is that
yes, the answer is hard. Yes, underlined. Hey, hey, woolly. Let me ask you a question. You ready for
this? What if you get ready for this? Black people were robots.
Think about it. That's I'm going to go to bed on that one. I got to sleep on it. I got to sleep on
that one. I really don't know what. Oh, God. Oh, God. I can't remember it was feels or buttons,
but point out, you know, in heavy rain, how everyone's like a 3D modeled character that's
scanned in from a real person. Except for one person.
Do you remember the one person in heavy rain that is not scanned in?
Is it the black guy? It's the evil black guy.
That's cool.
Do you remember when people accused David Cage of not being super great with gay people
and he started screaming about how he's worked with Elliot Page? Of course. Of course. And everyone
was like, that's our post lawsuit. No defense at all. Yeah. Like,
hey, your kid died, put a baby in me.
You know, it's incredible because you go back, you go back to the LP of which I think the title
card in all of them is Willem Dafoe and Elliot Page sitting there looking like they're going to
kill themselves. Next to David going and like, yeah. Wow. That must have been just as shit as
you would have expected. Yes. How dare you? I have gay friends and my games are not for them.
And like, I think it's a fairly safe assumption that you can auto complete any number of phrases
you want with any group that you want about any topic that you want. If the guy standing there
going, we don't make games or queers. Right. And using the slur in the middle of his office.
Right. Like, I can't even imagine the shit that was said behind closed doors when they
were making Detroit. I just I just want to see the I can't even fucking imagine. I just want to see
the vertical slice of the game that never got released where you just you just go on a rampage
in an asylum where just mentally ill people are pouring out like World War Z.
You know, just just there's the cut the cutting room floor.
Anyway,
Sony's going to drop that fucking company. Quantic fucking reality.
So what, you know, what's great about a quantum dream? It's by its definition,
it's an ephemeral thought that exists in both the state of being real and not real
simultaneously. So it looks like it's about their turn to become an unreal thought.
It's a ephemeral. Yes. Okay.
Oh, were they already dropped by Sony? Is that correct?
I don't know about that. But like, I'm under I feel
confident that no one at Sony wants to handle the interview that is. So how come you hired
David Cage after all that shit? But this is the this is the actual superpower is after every
ridiculous release, he somehow managed to get enough power and momentum behind him
to just do it again. And the triple a pretty graphics made everyone go like, wow, it's so
pretty and so thoughtful, amazing game. You know, it's it's it tricks your cousin into thinking
it's it's an it's a fucking system seller. And it happens every single time. Maybe the
difference though, this time being that the character of the man is what's being put up as
opposed to the quality of the product. Maybe that'll make a difference. Who knows. But he's
managed to fucking slip and escape and make and make some crazy fucking, you know, bigger project
or work on something else every time. So I'm not convinced that this is it, like this is not the
last you've heard. It's funny, because you mentioned you we were talking about Genius
Kojumbo earlier. And also people have pointed out that Quantum Dream is their own publisher now.
So they don't need Sony to get their back so they can they can live in their own world.
But you mentioned Genius Kojumbo earlier, right?
Genius Kojumbo, his face and name and personality and persona have become his studio,
right? It's literally Kojima productions. David Cage is similar in that respect to Quantum Dream.
And I'm just thinking what would have happened to Metal Gear or Death Stranding
if you open up your newspaper and it's Hideo Kojima is guilty of a string of hate crimes.
Or got caught eating a baby, right? That would fuck up those those goddamn releases pretty bad.
It would fuck with the brand. You'd fuck with the money. Yeah, the bag would no longer be secured.
But that's what we're looking at here. But when we read that interview years ago,
where that other guy was like, yeah, we're bringing a team of writers and other staff to
insulate David to dilute him to, you know, to pour in yet pour more water in on on his fucking recipe.
It makes it as if it's like, well, this could also be a situation where they can be like, well,
we're a studio. He leaves and then they just keep making games and then they just do other shit.
I would be so excited to see a Quantum Dream game that David Cage did not work on.
It could absolutely exist. It could it could go the like it a gacky style, you know, where because
they just disassociate if they want to see if it's if it's just like the head of the snake or
it's all snake. Right? Like if David Cage leaves and the game comes out and you're like, this is
incredible. You're like, wow, it really was him. But if it's exactly the same, you're like, oh wow,
they're all it's all of them. I'm they're all like that. Yeah. But I feel I feel like it it is the
head of the snake if only because we've never like, well, that's not true. That was a blatant lie. I was
almost about to say I was almost about to say like we've never had complaints on on a technical
level. But that's insane. But but Detroit, the most recent offering was legitimately technically
sound. Oh, yeah, absolutely. It was very pretty. It ran really well. And when you have the ability to
make characters and environments like that and do the things they can do on a technical level,
but you just remove the asshole from telling them what to do, then you can get something like
until dawn, you know, like it's just a great fucking great narrative story.
Put it out. No problem. No, no robots having a dream. It's just it it feels
it like it's the most satisfied I've ever had up with this. You know, when you meet somebody
and you just know you're an asshole, but you just can't prove it. You just can't quite prove it.
Isn't that isn't that what Phoenix Wright is about? Is that what you were just saying?
It kind of is. And you're like, I don't know about this guy. This guy's an asshole. People
are like, Ah, they're fine. They're fine. You're overreacting. And then they prove it themselves.
I mean, admittedly, the smoking gun prior real satisfying the smoking gun before this was a
was a farting dick in balls. Was it not? It's not a rugby. It's not a rugby cloak room.
They said as they were not aware of a farting dick in balls on the whiteboard behind them.
This is an incredible quote to read in this paper article. And those are the ones that
they brought to the courtroom, right? Like none of those have anything to say about
what was said in private meetings behind closed doors and whatever other circumstances. But
yeah, all the all the quotes that like we describe were things that must have been like on the open
development floor that like 20 people heard. Not the shit that was in like three or four person
meetings. If you really want to have a baffling head fuck of a moment, try to think about what
someone who's writing these stories about these charged topics on race and and and fucking like
major social unrest and and someone who like legitimately is does like writes this way and
then also acts and and thinks this way and speaks this way and talks this way and is this way. Like
what is what's the bridge behind your actual messaging then here? I can tell you right now.
How do you parse these things together right now? I'm going to put words in David Cage's mouth
words that I have assumed for a long time. It always seemed ridiculous and mean even for me
about Detroit because Detroit is one of black people robots because remember it's not about race.
It's not about civil rights, right? And all I can think of when I look at Detroit
is a guy writing a story and he wants to write it about civil rights, but he decides to make most
of the characters white because he goes well nobody will care if it's about actual minorities
or black people. I've got to I've got to make it about like you know something people care about
like robots. Like that's what I assume is going through his fucking head. You know this evil
spiritual AI is not scary enough. We need to make it Native American.
Oh man, you want to talk about indigo prophecy. We clear the fucking rest of the day.
We need to put the headdress and on with the feathers and now it's scary.
That shit's
that shit's confusing. Like I feel like if we really broke it down there probably be
more outrageous shit in indigo prophecy than any of the other games, but it's so legitimately
confusing that because it like indigo like Omicron before it like except this takes place on
earth so they don't have the liberty of just making up like random races and culture and whatever
magic exactly like indigo gets to just be like okay we need a movie trope here to match the
emotion of the scene and if the thing in his head happens to be I don't know angels attacking or
or the the the apartment attacks you or whatever then it you know then it just then it's like
that's what he felt in that moment but if it also but if it happened to be like scary foreigners
you know if it happened or they're just like random witches like it's like whatever
fear thoughts he had that morning then just got committed to paper and then to to disk
everything everything scary to him you know yeah anyway hang it up
now you want to talk about social commentary in your games
let's not talk about indigo prophecy let's talk about pal world let's talk about pal world pal
world that sounds like a wholesome adventure with your buddies your pals in fact
those buddy pals are sure real friendly they'll literally take a bullet for you
and cry
so uh craftopia announced a new game called pal world where you collect and raise mysterious
creatures called pal in a next-gen open world survival crafting game and from what I can see
we got ourselves a little temtem style cute buddy adventure with you and your animal running
around um and then some recolors of what are obviously pokemon and exactly 11 seconds into
the trailer someone pulls a gun out and starts shooting at you as you surf on your bird and
you're like that's gunfire that's I mean a little extreme but video games do have shooting mechanics
pretty commonly so fine you know okay all right yeah and then the gunfire and then the gunfiring
becomes more and more pronounced as you attack as the your monster attacks at the same time
and then you see your pals building houses for you and you're like oh yeah and mowing and harvesting
weeds and you're like oh okay and then around a minute in you pick up a little sheep and it
blocks bullets and it's crying wales in tears and you toss it to the side like a piece of shit
and then away with a shotgun and then like and they they continue to cut back to friendly
uh adventuring and then the last like 20 to 30 seconds are just here is a shot of your pals
building guns in a factory on a on a fucking assembly line they're emaciated they're miserable
here is you sniping you poaching so many of these little birdfuckers that they're like being pushed
out of the cage they're crammed in a cage as if it were a fucking pita video um here is a shot of
your zangoose looking pal blocking the bullets for you as as you know you fucking take your shots
you take cover behind it yeah here is your cute little monkeys churning the wheel literally like
a donkey to keep the lights on you notice that they're pot leaf monkeys are they is that oh yeah
okay they're green they have fucking pot leaves on their fucking head they absolutely have marijuana
leaves on their head perfect and then you go fishing and you electrocute the entire lake and
kill all that that is the absolute like it's funny because that's not a gun but that's the one
though because you you but the idea of like what if ash strapped pikachu to a fishing rod and went
dynamite fishing with fucking thunderbolt is the most incredible fucking thing because like it's it
you because every game every game in the world every single game ever made fish catch a fish you
got a big one yeah power world over fish the lake kill everything go on your merry way
you did it you got them all oh you could only carry like two of them though to sell whatever just
leave the restaurant and then you go to the website yes and the website has screenshots
of the the fucking pals on the assembly line going make sure to feed them because they will
work in their factory until they die so it's important it's important to after you see the
trailer then go see the official description exactly so building do you want to build a pyramid
you can have a large number of pals work on construction don't worry labor laws won't be
applied to pals factory and automation it is essential for automation to let pals do the
manual work build a factory place pals in it they will work forever as long as they're fed until
the end of their lifetime dungeon exploration with pals you'll be able to be safe in dangerous
areas if you're in danger use pals to cover your escape they'll give their lives to protect you
poaching and crime endangered species pals live in the hunting prohibited area
if you sneak in and catch them you'll get tons of money it's only illegal if you get caught
this is the greatest fucking thing i've heard of this is the greatest buddy monster game ever
made free easy on a fucking rocket ship with a bullet it is it is the game you and i and
almost everyone i have ever met in my life at one point invented talking to their friends
in elementary or high school so i downloaded temtem on my ps5 i'm about to go delete it
because i don't have multiple pokemon games left in me but i do have the energy for something like
this for this i got the energy for this i can you know um it's wow
it oh man it's so this is this is cryotopia uh craftopio excuse me and no craftopious
wait is that the dev because they made a game called craftopia pocket pair excuse me pocket
because craftokia is their breath of the wild build survival game sure now is that at all
like let's find out tongue-in-cheek about fucking uh uh uh this type of
this type of commentary and and recent reviews are mixed
general reviews are very positive yeah i just want to know if craftopia is calling out some
wild bullshit practices because that's hilarious uh i yeah i know i see what you say when you go
breath of the wild on it again yeah okay it's breath of the wild is going to get used when
it's deserved and when it's not it's just the thing now too bad uh the main complaints about
craftopia is that it's not finished and people are mad that uh they assume it will never be finished
because they announced uh pocket pals before sorry pal world before craftopia got into a
really good state okay but prior to that it has animal slavery mostly very positive
so whether or not this is gonna be good it's fucking it's shrug what uh and this is why this is why
pita is fucking worthless could you imagine like the game pita would make to make fun of pokemon
and if they put you know they're stopping doing it after the kneeling animals yeah sure they stopped
doing the fake like cock fighting murderous pokemon games because everyone saw those and
went this is fucking lit if you you play that stupid fools if you had an ounce of fucking
like competence and under and like and and and actually understood how to communicate a message
in some way that might actually be taken seriously for a half second look at the way this is being
handled in this manner like this is exactly it dude like it's fucking it's it's it's insane
you know i have to i have to say dude like because i got in uh i got into um a factorial
i got in a satisfactory and all those types of games for a little while and i'm going back to
satisfactory relatively soon there's a very bizarre thing that happens with this genre
that your morals invert right um like you got a midnight start as soon as you start playing
like factorial or like satisfactory you're like i want to fucking scorch this planet into a gray
nightmare yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i want to make it so that no life can grow calling attention to
that is absolutely overdue you know um yeah it's it's it's incredible how effective that could be
at getting that point across because anyway whatever not not to dive down the fucking
animal husbandry is fucked up huh
i actually can't even think of a game that lets you go dynamite fishing i can't even think of one
it's it's again you you're willing i like the reveal on all of those things because
you're willing to kind of twist your brain around to be like wow guns plus pokemon that's
fucking weird but i guess right and then they kick it forward a little bit they kick it forward a
little bit and they kick it forward a little bit slowly dial the knob yep yep boil the frog
that's it that's it like the the trailer some masterfully crafted because you you're right
like the first gunfire is sandwiched between like wholesome flying and like riding a cart
and and then then it's like oh we're running oh we're building and like the guns don't show
up for like a little while again and you kind of forget about it oh they're farming oh they're
farming he's shearing some sheeps oh that's cool oh wow warzone yeah rocket launcher oh it's camping
oh good camping petting your friend trading like it's it's incredible if act three of this game
is about like uh oh the evil nation has gotten their hands on evel tall and their
and nuclear deterrence is now no longer an option you must use eugenics to breed the strongest
pal to deter those those dirty people across the border we have alugia we can we can we have time
yeah yeah breed the answer out until you have your own legendary
and it's like and then there's the tutorial which is what do you do with pals that don't come out
of the breeding process the way you want and then it's just like that's okay put them into
the feed machine and they can be transported to the factory to feed your workers there's
there's egg fusion there's already a shot of two eggs slamming together yeah just go just go
just just go hard on all of it you know have it be chipper and happy and and when and even though
you're putting bags on your personas heads and cutting them off and then they're exploding into
a new form you're like yeah but these are just concepts and you're in a fake those are all spirits
and concepts and you know but they're not alive yeah they're not alive they have no souls a hundred
percent yeah yeah yeah no this if this is the trailer like this can go to the darkest most
fucked up places if they wanted to just send the message home and the question is is do they have
the balls to i'm gonna go ahead and guess yes because they've already decided to put this this
game out commercially like i like so let's say they don't finish craftopia right like and they're
the type of studio that thinks about like oh well early access this until we early access the next
one this one guys pal world's the one and i focus on that one and i think the most fucked up thing
that could happen to a game like this is it becoming a breakout success
where they're forced to keep making to build on it expand it make more you know man just fully
franchise this energy the worst thing that could happen anyway coming soon to update 3.2 wage theft
figure out how to skim a little extra off the top by screwing up your pals hours at the factory
the hyperbolic time chamber allows you to turn dinosaur style pals into oil for your energy uses
it's
like it there's yep yep it's just everything everything yep absolutely whatever you want it to be
need extra cash sell some of your pals to sick freaks and don't think about what happens to them
it there's no limit now the question is is basically like what are they gonna do for like
like his pokemon pass out and then wake up in the pokemon center when nurse joy revives them like
are we in a world where there's pal permadeath i'm gonna go ahead and i'm gonna assume so
i'm i'm waiting for the cut scene where you fight youngster joey and he sends out his electa buzz
knock off and you beat it and then you pull out your pistol and ice him like new game should
have trained harder joey new game normal difficulty is literally a nuzlocke immediately
yeah yeah
turn could a craft to turn your your down to put your down pal into uh items and feed for the rest
of your team good times the team rocket simulator we've always wanted
or god forbid there'd be um evolution branches where you know like there's a couple of different
volpix communities uh are near each other uh not volpix um um uh uh uh uh flaryons and jolteons
and espion's eevee communities eevee communities not getting along with each other
do your thing
how do you evolve a pikachu and who will write you don't give him a thunderstorm
just shock the shit out of him eight hours a day and he'll eventually turn into a bigger one
get the chair out yeah yeah like what i used to i used to make jokes during pokemon about like
shoving the evolution stones down their throats you know and it's like yeah we're here yeah fuck it
yeah we're here uh anyway pal world uh kid eyes out for that one eyes out for that uh i i i feel
like it can't live up to its own trailer no it really kind of is too amazing and at some point
like the only like my the the the like i said the the worst thing that could happen would be it being
a breakout success the second worst thing that could happen would be um that's the limit of what
there is and everything else is just a straight shooting buddy pokemon world like that kind of
sucks they just stop at that level and then everything else is just you know pretty yeah
earnest and nothing else to it um please fill every moment every dialogue box with every npc
with nothing but seething seething disdain for the current status quo
like this game should be like the disco elysium of pokemon okay well i'm gonna send i'm gonna send
you a time stamp to the craftopia trailer okay and i think i think they've already shown
that they they got the balls because at 103 in the craftopia trailer you see them going to
like a ranch with some cows yeah and then watering some plants yeah and then after the little farming
bit it shows like well here's how you cook a big meal and it's a conveyor belt that just drops the
cows into the yes yes yes yes yes yes i saw that's the only thing i saw they're like uh on
twitter there was like a a conveyor belt with cows and someone went from the makers of this game
and just cows dropping into the fucking thing yeah i did see that i did see that
don't worry the killing fields are more of a yard or whatever the fuck the line is just like uh
yeah it's great it's good um anyway last thing here uh
capcom did an oopsie
they did a what oh
what did they what oh besides this year's conference uh hundreds of photos used in multiple games
by designer judy a juror check filed in a complaint um where over 1200 photographs of
textures she photographed were used in uh various capcom resident evil and devil may cry games
over the course of years um so um i'm not a lawyer or a photographer yep capcom should
really settle as fast as they can because they are super guilty that's it's it is kind of crazy
how they release the court documents showing like exactly how they tracked and traced everything
and they're like nope that's exactly that texture um the file names are almost all the same yeah
yeah so the thing about stuff like this is like um when the artists are doing their work like
this is something where like it is a very clear and possible fuck up to make if they're um
kind of just randomly googling things but like a lot of companies go through lengths to train
artists and teams to not do that specifically for this reason there are there are resources you
come across of like images sounds and things but you do have to check the um the the the licensing
on them whether it's attribution whether it's you know whatever the case may be like there's a lot
you have to look into if you're going to use uh resources which is as someone who's who has to
constantly like use and do things like this and source sounds and source all of this shit
it's a lot to keep track of but like if you become a giant humongous multimillion dollar franchise
this is the type of thing that can fucking happen with it so you you got it from day one either
take your own texture photos or like make sure that you're using one that you've licensed out
it's an easy fuck up to make um and to keep relying on the same library over the years which
companies tend to do because you're like oh we have one it's in the clear and everything's okay
should be fine um because in a lot of cases like I remember there was um a deviant art like place
that would like collect these these incredible photos and they did sell CDs and things like
that as well and it was kind of like um just buying that on its own didn't include commercial usage
right it includes usage for free projects usage for students but the moment you were selling the
thing that you were using it for you had to do more than that you had to contact the the original
artist and um that's where a lot of people just kind of fuck up on that so yeah just settle it
settle it and fucking pay them whatever the fuck they're asking for because it's dead to rights like
the fucking texture of uh a book an re remake like the ram head on top of the
it's everything they used for like you know decades it's funny because you look at uh a lot of you
see like a japanese company they'll do like behind the scenes thing and like let's take mgs2 right
and they'll be like look the team went to new york and they're looking at all this shit new
york to get a real feel for new york and they're taking photos of everything and like that includes
taking photos of surfaces and doors texture absolutely buildings and then they make the
textures themselves and there's a reason they fucking do that it's so they can own the fucking
texture yes and they don't have to rip this fucking person off but when uh but kojima sending his
team around the world for mgs4 is a price that capcom might not want to pay for devil may cry one
or resident evil four you know yeah so buy the rights to the fucking commercial distribution
that's it you know that's uh yeah there's there's no real there's no real in between on it it's either
you know do your own or or get the fucking get the clearance proper uh though i want to though i
was recently looking at um there was a uh that list of like because there's a what is a similar
thing was used for music right there's an album of soundtrack of sounds and and um like isolated
rap samples that was used in like probably hundreds of games usually japanese games at this
point uh i tweeted it out sometime ago or like a response to it or a retweet but it was like
all the shit you hear all the hip hop you hear in cvs one um all the hip hop you hear in a bunch of
the samples you hear in jet set radio um fucking just like a ridiculous giant list of games that
just went like oh yeah there's this one album that has a bunch of like um i think it's just like
attribution license um hip hop on it you know they just grabbed it and threw it in there and
that's why you kind of hear like verses or you're like i've heard that verse before or like why do
cvs ones like um um the south town stage or our metro city stage have like fucking swearing in it
you know that the end of the verse it's like i'm ready to fucking spill and i remember i was like
that wasn't in what where what that's odd yeah um you know and and also like efsler earlier on in
the verse too you know and it's just like what what the it's like yeah because they had there's one
disc that was used for like all of these samples samples you know so um it's fucking it's this this
definitely happens but you gotta you gotta gotta gotta gotta gotta look into the attribution license
for it anyway let's take some letters and uh wrap up all right if you want to send in a letter
send it to castle super beast mail gmail.com that's castle super beast mail gmail.com you'd
think this podcast would be longer considering it's e3 week but e3 sucks now and has sucked for
years as does my fucking spine but um i mean you know what are you going to talk about
fucking halo infinite like what are we doing here you know what no here i will say this
the outer worlds 2 trailer was pretty great what's that sorry outer worlds 2
ah yeah it was funny that was good i don't think hopefully they can make a better game this time
yeah it'll never happen again um it only works once but that was pretty clever it was just a
straight up call out to e3 bullshit i think uh the the starfield trailers hilarious that they
waited this many years to show starfield and it's still the nothing trailer there's nothing in it
i mean wow yeah like shout outs to fucking outer worlds for for acknowledging
the nothing trailer and the and the nothingness yeah of what they've what they've got so far
um i saw that i saw the guy who directed it and came up with the idea with it and it's like he
was talking about like i can't believe the company let me do this yeah yeah solid
uh oh and yeah pretty much everyone has more or less buried beyond good and evil too in their hearts
so i saw people that had like the audacity be like where is it i'm like it never existed you
fucking idiots it it didn't it obviously didn't exist both times they announced it
yeah oh ff16 showcase rumor to happen in a couple weeks okay well there you go
oh that'd be nice that's what everyone's looking for yeah all right all right if you got an email
you can send it on i might read it what do you got uh castle super beast mail at gmail.com
got one uh coming in from
Sheldon says hey will Ryuki and Potemkin uh with a recent conversation with some of my
friends i was thinking if your state or province was in a fighter what landmark iconic place would
be the stage uh yeah uh absolutely three clear solid answer here the destroyed olympic stadium
collapsing around you yeah uh number one for me it like the ha ha is the olympic stadium uh and
number two for real is they put it in kebek city and they put it in front of chateau fraude neck
oh and then you you'd be fight you'd be fighting near the entrance to one of the inner city walls
with chateau fraude neck in the background are you a fan of uh that would absolutely be the kebek
stage it's a very pretty building it's really nice
um
we got one coming in from peter says recently finished uh hello woolly's end club and pat
the mind goblin files i recently finished world ends club the new game by the dudes behind zero
scape and dang and rampa oh so i guess the second thing came out because i know um i know that anime
uh was was the first project of uh their new studio uh anyway while not terrible the game was
incredibly hard to recommend for a number of reasons why the unresponsive and floaty puzzle
platformer sections were chief among my complaints i left a bizarre feeling that i wished the game
had less not better less gameplay so that i could progress through the story faster
naturally my question is have you encountered this feeling where you'd wish the game had
less to play and if so which games you had about 80 percent of the way through virtues last reward
i felt that i just wanted to fucking see the end of the story but they kept making me solve these
room puzzles we talk infamously about okami and okami 2 the joke is my favorite yeah for for
it's also it's also like decades old at this point so for anyone who's new and young um okami
there is no okami 2 there's okami den but that's not okami 2 okami is so fucking long that there's
an okami 2 inside of okami yeah because it okami just needs to be shorter it also like hard splits
itself into three parts yes there's a part where you the credits should roll but don't
also excuse my exclamation my wonderful fiance who my love very much despite being allergic to
pineapples which is a noted on the record fact just almost choked drinking pineapple juice what are
you doing over there why
why does she keep doing it i don't know i don't know isn't just like i know this is
going to fuck me up but i'm going to take it anyway because i like no she forgot she likes
the pineapple because it's delicious and then she drinks it and then she's like ow ow allergic
rights right holy shit chaos chaos yes that's right darling chaos though yes chaos chaos though yeah
by the way incredible retweet on that that was the perfect joke for the perfect moment it's good
thank you uh lastly we got one coming in from greg who says uh sorry for the long post but
it's not a question just an interesting story i think will rile you up uh pat complained about
total warhammer's graphical performance but that games one of the most stable in the series despite
the optimization problems instead oh yeah let me tell you about total war atilla released in 2015
atilla has a 32 meg uh engine with very high graphical floor nobody can get the campaign
map to run above 30 to 35 frames even when it's oh my god not a smooth 30 battles turn into slide
shows the further they last and intern phases can last several minutes depending on the campaign
state turning down graphical options actually makes the performance worse as the game pushes the
graphical burden to the cpu instead of the gpu and of course it's the type of game that'll never
recognize more than a handful of cores uh or a few gigabytes of vram when people pointed out the
atrocious optimization on release some marketing viking at creative assembly claimed the game was
intended for future hardware this is an infamous bald face lie as the game runs the same or sometimes
even worse on the most high end 2021 hardware it never received optimization patches uh a defense
force then uh emerged online with a bunch of trolls but a lot of genuine idiots who literally
who legitimately say runs fine for me at 60 fps but will never share videos of their benchmarks
once i saw a guy trying to photoshop the fps counter onto a screenshot of the game oh my god
that's awesome instead of trying to admit it instead of admitting it runs poorly you can still find
these lunatics um if you post on reddit or twitter i played every unoptimized triple a game
and atilla is easily the worst of the lot while having one of the most laughable excuses from
a dev i've heard on the flip side it's mechanically and aesthetically one of the best strategy games
i've played so sorry for the length but uh yeah there's the come on more hammer three come on
man you ever get so fucking butt mad on the internet that you get caught photoshopping
a fucking fps counter onto a screenshot that's wild that's completely fucking wild i love it
hang up your fucking jacket and hat retire you're done the internet is done all right
we're not gonna top that it's good it's good so we'll bid y'all adieu uh yeah uh just uh just a
touch on the uh schedule for um this week i've got a bunch of appointments to do things with both
back and and such so i'm not gonna have a normal week again but yeah you're in a free floating
state of free floating state first but i might be able to get something in there uh towards the end
of the week so uh i might be able to get like a uh uh yeah like thursday friday or saturday thing
going we'll see uh check by twitter for more um i would like to you know fucking pick back up when
when possible uh and in the meantime stay tuned i'm gonna try to get that that last two episodes of
the lore up uh asap for you guys so that's what's going on on the channel um check out the twitter
for more updates because uh yeah everything's touch and go on the on the meantime over at pat
stairs at i'm doing the nintendo bullshit tomorrow which is apparently going to include two smash
characters uh and then i'm going to do a full week of ratchet and clank and mass effect too
so hopefully people show up and enjoy that shit and that's it cool all right bye everybody