Castle Super Beast - CSB 123: Creation: The Ultimate Fartprank

Episode Date: June 23, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Music Hello. Good morning. Good afternoon rather. How's your back? A lot better. It's doing a lot better. I'm currently feeling like the pain has minimized quite a bit. It is now down to a very manageable amount. It's basically at a place where I only feel anything after sitting down for extended periods of time and getting back up, walking around. It doesn't really happen that much. Yeah, there's a lot that contributes to that over the last two weeks. Definitely the combination of sofizio. I've started out with some of that. It's one of those can't hurt. Definitely. It's the opposite of hurt type of situation. So throwing
Starting point is 00:01:40 that in, like I mentioned, there's the anti-inflammatories. I've been also kind of weaning off just to see how it is without anything affecting it. It's been pretty solid, so that helps. The gadgets and plethora of things, plethora of things I've gotten, now includes the big, big kudos here to Paige on this one. The Herman Miller and body chair is fucking beautiful choice. Chef's kiss. You must have needed that real bad, because I remember her telling you about it. Literally 24 hours later, she's like, oh yeah, he got one. Yeah. He just went and got one right away. Well, I'm just like nuke the pain. That's my deal, is anytime there's any issue, just annihilate it with every possible solution. Then maybe work backwards to figure out which
Starting point is 00:02:40 one it was. But at the time, I'm like, yeah, just everything. In this case, it is a really good chair that is really solid at helping make sure your back doesn't get annihilated by basic office chair sitting, or even couch sitting and things like that. I've gotten other things as well, like I said, like lumber support and little bits and pieces to help me wherever I am. But considering the nature of the fact that I have been glued to working on the Guilty Gear lore videos, this is a humongous, humongous help that has really much made it so that it's eliminated some of the need for some other things I've been doing honestly. Oh yeah. Yeah. But you still have to get up and give yourself a stretch
Starting point is 00:03:35 and such, but it's been incredible. So, you know, huge thanks, huge thanks to the peach on that one because it came in in the clutch. And I mean, hey, this is a this company I've never heard of. They had also never heard of it until she started looking into it. Yeah. Well, it doesn't come cheap. It's no, they say this is not a head down to staples and grab an office chair kind of chair. This is a a fucking this is a big one. And they they're not afraid to ask you for four digits for a chair. Now, on the plus side, you don't have a dog that tries to eat the chair. Yeah. Also, I've, you know, thanks to like I thanks to the helpful nature of key G. G. I just went and saw someone selling it for like, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:34 half the price they they they retail it for. So I was able to get it mild the next day. Mildly encrusted. No, brand new in box. What the what the fuck are they doing? It's incredible. It's encrusted with a with a G because it's the gamer chair variation of it because they make it for offices and they make it for like fancy, you know, big old like salary man type situations. But they also have a gamer ass version with gamer colors on them and a big G on the back. So I was able to get a brand new inbox gamer variation. The tech still works and does its job. It just happens to be marketed to, you know, well, as you need it the most perfect sense. Yeah. So I if I think the packaging literally
Starting point is 00:05:28 mentions rising up on it, like I'm not even joking. I think there was something I was looking at that made reference to a sort of rising up or something along those lines kind of term. So yeah, good times, good times with that, you know, that's how you that's how you you want to save money on any expensive products. Make sure you buy the gamer version. It's the most important version. The one they need to get like, like sanctioned into its own side section of their factory because they do proper business for proper people and then there's the fucking gamer hole over there. I still think the worst one is the ASUS brand Republic of gamers that like when you fucking load up like a laptop from ASUS that's like
Starting point is 00:06:18 high end laptop, it's like that's the splash screen can't get rid of it. It's the Republic of gamers like, oh my God, the gamer. Oh my God. Do you want to live? Do you want to live in the gamer republic? No, I don't. I don't want to live in that gamer republic. I know. No, sir. Yeah, well, anyway, yes, indeed, that has been the the the core to, you know, yeah, double entendre, but it's it's been it's been a lot better. And yeah, I there's also shit happening that's like not even here yet. Like I just I bought a new bed and that's coming. Yeah, yeah, that's you know. But I will say that like as a result of dealing with like all of this
Starting point is 00:07:17 and such, not much of a week to really say in terms of events and things, there's there's definitely definitely news to discuss. But for me personally, I've been just doing back related things and doing my guilty gear, Laura. And yeah, that's pretty much just about just about ready to go. So before we get quite into it, I do have something I want to measure out of turn at the top of the podcast as a public service announcement. If you are currently an owner of Marvel's Avengers game, fucking don't play it right now and definitely don't stream it. Don't update it because there is there is a bug going around on that shit that is having your name and your username and your IP address just bounce around the screen like a DVD menu. You know, I've I've I feel like I've
Starting point is 00:08:21 known you for a minute and I feel like I'm able to tell certain things, certain subtle things that are very low key, very subtle. Yeah, still but still present. And one of those things one of those things is there is a very, very trace amount, but it's still there of there's a there's a level of something that comes in when when you get to talk about what is essentially a hilariously dunkable topic, but you get to frame it as a PSA because there's legitimate like doxing purposes that can be associated with the problem. There's a little tingle of a spark inside that a little. Yeah, yeah, you would you and you enjoy getting to front load the PSA. You know, the warning to everybody by the way for any of those out there within, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:16 this audience that happened to own a copy of Avengers, whoever that might be, you know, be wary of what might happen if you were to pop this game and then start playing it. For real, though, that what's actually much worse is that the they put out a note that there'll be a hot fix tomorrow to fix numerous bugs, including a floating string of text. Like that's the official stance on it is like, oh, we got to we got to fix the floating string of text. You know, there's a lot of types of floating strings. I mean, generally speaking, if you were to ask me to bug that, I would say, oh, like, oh, yeah, that's a C class bug that eight that bad, you know, random letters, random numbers floating around a screen,
Starting point is 00:10:03 some kind of dev build like the build number usually the build number usually the build number is often often what you got to worry about there. And you know, to anyone who is is more or less not paying attention that yeah, that seems like a little weird thing, but that's fine. Not usually a hot fixable issue, mind you, usually a couple letters floating around is not something you get the team to jump on overnight and call up your Sony Microsoft and Xbox contacts and go, hey, we have to push a build over in the next 24 hours. Can you fast? We have to push in a hot fix, which I mean, the the the consoles have been historically terrible for hot fixing costs money. Yeah, dollars, right? But as it turns out, if those random numbers, letters,
Starting point is 00:10:53 and or strings are a personal information such as your IP address, that's an oopsie. Hey, it's your name and your credit card and those wacky numbers on the back. It's not a minor issue. Just some wacky just some wacky numbers. Random. Who knows? Yeah, whoops, including the three digits. So now that our PSA is done, did you get to play any guilty gear, Willie? So no. And wow, I know. I know that's that is just the sequence of events that have taken place. It's kind of of they're absurd. Yeah, it's a bit of a comedy of errors. And I and I understand that that. But I pretty much said, look, at this point, let me get my house in order and let me finish my obligations. I was supposed to be done with these videos by the time the game launched.
Starting point is 00:11:55 And I was physically restrained from doing so. So I'm basically like, I'm not going to touch it until I'm done with this. And to be fair, I have again, like, I'm not spending much time over on the couch anyway. But yeah, yeah, I've decided to finish my shit off before I even get in there. So I mean, that makes sense. That's that's on the plus side, or less, we are getting to dodge some dolphin based shenanigans. I'm aware. I'm aware because I did get to feel them during the beta. Yeah. And soul. I always play. So I have a friend of mine who plays soul. He always plays soul. He's a huge guilty gear mark. And he picks up soul, and we're doing some matches. And he was just like running into
Starting point is 00:12:51 me just doing like standing slash, like over and over. And we're just we're chatting over discord, we're both like, wow, this is this is going to go away. Yeah. The funny thing is back in the like Archrevo build when I was playing it back whenever like last year or two years ago, actually, the take away like hilarious clown combos were tootsiegeki, tootsiegeki, tootsiegeki, wall splat, tootsiegeki and fafnir, fafnir, fafnir, wall splat, fafnir, you know. So like those two still being like the big ungebungas are it's yeah, that's that's that's probably going to get handled at some point. Like playing just messing around with with soul felt like, man, this reminds me of like, this reminds me of that Toronto.
Starting point is 00:13:52 That that Labor Day weekend, we went to go see sagat 91 everyone at that at that arcade. And just like wow launch. Yeah. Yeah. Vanilla sagat is fucking wow. And I definitely do intend to. Yeah, I want I want to get in there and feel it for myself. I want to get hit with a splash of dolphin cool, refreshing blast, Baha blast. But I'm rounding the corner. I'm about 97% of the way there. And I think I was explaining a little bit last time we did this like before last week. But there's so there's so much condensed into Rev 2 here. And I feel bad too, because I see a lot of feedback of people that are like, yo, awesome to hear I got this game because I've been following this lore series and stuff. But
Starting point is 00:14:56 essentially, like they're like waiting for this to get into that, you know, they're waiting to see for the shoot to drop, so to speak. Right. So, you know, because there's so much left, I'm going to explain it here too. And I'll put something in front of the video to explain that I'm essentially going to be dropping two hour long videos as the finale. So there's going to be a part six and a part seven. And it like when you don't space things out on YouTube, YouTube doesn't like it very much. But I don't want people who are expecting there to be one more video to arrive and only see like a to be continued and then get upset at that. So I'm going to drop them. I'm going to finish them both. That's what I'm doing too, is what I'm doing. I did I did two in the
Starting point is 00:15:48 time frame. And if it was just the one, I would have thrown it out already. And then but I don't want that. Everyone's expecting the finish. So I'm just like, okay, we're going to drop two at the same time. And you're going to have one or two the other. But I'm just putting I'm putting them each into hour long sex sections instead of like a two hour thing, because the series has been half an hour to 45 minute episodes. I don't want it. It's way too much. And yeah. And furthermore, the whole point is to save people from watching multiple four hour long movies as well as extra hours of additional content. I'm trying to help you through that by summarizing, you know, what is interesting and like tricky is as I'm going through, I guess, I guess, I mean, I can
Starting point is 00:16:38 talk about this part since this is my week, right? But yeah, absolutely. The process of like pairing this down to what matters is like, that's one thing you can just mainline the story. But because this is a series about so many different characters, and there's so many people that are like, their favorites are like this or that are one, you know, like a particular person that shows up to do a little thing here, to give everyone their due, you can't just put it all on the chopping block, you know. So when you start with the series in the first couple episodes, where there's nothing to really show, you just have to explain the timeline over the course of 100 years or more, going through this list of like events and then describing what happened at each one. But as you get further and
Starting point is 00:17:24 further closer to the present, you're going from vaguely describing an entire conflict in one paragraph to a full conversation point to point that these characters are having, you know. And if you cut out the entire existence or cameo or, you know, drop of like one of these characters, which is like someone's favorite, then people who are like waiting to see that person miss out on that and that sucks, you know, and I've seen people going all when's x or y my favorite character and stuff, you know, so to keep it all in there and keep the cool parts of what everyone would like about their character, you have to keep it in at this like chunky boy size. You know, you're describing this and as I'm seeing people meme up in the chat, I'm thinking about like,
Starting point is 00:18:15 Guilty Gear has a really bizarre storyline because there's no moderate level of understanding. There's no like in between. There's like, there's like a detailed list and breakdown of what is occurring and what the backyard means and and what that man is really up to. And then there's like single sentence nonsense descriptions that are actually kind of close. Like what's Potemkin's deal? He's a soldier. He fights for this guy. Done. What's that guy's deal? There's a shadow out of his butt. What's that man up to? Some shit again. Yeah. I mean, for the first half of the of the franchise's life, it was just, hey, that's post apocalyptic anime Ryu and Ken. You know, and they're going to be beefing with each other because that's what the rivals are
Starting point is 00:19:12 supposed to do. That's what, you know, and that's about it. But then, yeah, you, you, you attempt to to peek into the fucking the darkness and then the darkness not only stares back, but it grabs you and then it starts start singing society in your face with a booming voice. The funnest the fun is apparent. It's apparently called armor clad faith and not a clown of faith. Sure. Sure. Yeah, you know, shot outs to these banger tracks being English as fuck. So there's a level of standard of hilarity that you always have to interface with. But beneath the English, there's really good meaning and solid lyrics. Yeah. Yeah. But it's sung like, I don't know what to call it, but it's like, it's, oh, that's a good lyric. But it's sung like, but also with like a
Starting point is 00:20:13 Japanese accent, like underneath that, everything in this world leads to soul enlightenment. There's no wasted. There's nothing wasted in our lives. That's fucking good advice. That's yeah, that's a solid. Yeah, what's it sound like, though? It's it's yeah. Yeah, I always felt torn when when guilty gear started to add lyrics because I thought the instrumental tracks and like xx and so on were just like a hundred percent aces. But I've turned around on it because because yeah, Sony, everybody imitating the guilty gear singer sounds like creed. That's because it sounds like Japanese creed. That's totally what it sounds like. And creeds a trash band. But I will never, I will go to my grave and die before the phrase came like comes out of my head.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Yeah, the it's funny because this week to punch bombs playing through P3 portable and has been talking about how like, yeah, man, music's catchy, humming it and stuff. And I was like, you know, that's funny because when I first like introduced this whole like persona world and stuff, that was one of the topics that we discussed where it was like the music, she's like, oh, but this English is so weird. And I'm like, I know, I know it's it's you've never if you haven't interfaced with a lot of anime OPs over the years, it's really jarring. But if you get, if you just let it settle settle and in the music is super catchy and good, you know, Lotus juice has a very bizarre voice in this term. Yes. Some of the lyrics are no problem.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Like second language English speaker, but he's very clear. Right. It's really obvious. But as he is rapping, he decides to just do the thing that everybody does for their accent as he twists it to hit the rhyme. But he's twisted in some goofy ways that makes me sit there. I was he said, let me go get the lyric list. I'll go get the lyrics. Yeah, like, oh, that is what he's saying. You know, I can hear the part where he says, and I'm the ace because the music stops. Yeah. But when he's going on about rocking your body body in the dorm room, it gets a little rough, you know, but it but it but that's the thing is like admittedly that's that's that was three. And then, you know, they kind of went on into the different styles with four and five.
Starting point is 00:23:12 But yeah, and you can mask some of the accent a little more when you're having like a vocalist sing extended notes as opposed to like tons of bars being dropped in like a rap verse. Yeah. The rap verse exposes the English a lot faster. You know, I still remember when I was a little baby child, when I was a tiny little baby child, Spice Girls was a popular band. They were a popular group. Everybody's like, oh, man, Spice Girls. Why don't British people sing? Yeah. And then and then they sang a song and then they were on like Oprah or some shit and my mom was watching it. And they started to like talk and I look at my mom's like, why do they sound like that? What's wrong with that? And my mom's like, they're there from England. And I remember going, why?
Starting point is 00:24:15 They don't sound like that when they sing. And she was like, well, people don't sound like their accents sometimes when they sing. And I'm like, they sound stupid. They should sing all the time. I mean, even in like, even in like time to make history, you know, it's like you can kind of buy in for a bunch of it. But then she starts doing the talk rap part with like, yeah, find your place in it. And you're like, and you're like, oh, oh, there it is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, anyway, it's fine. It's ultimately, these are songs you're going to love and enjoy and you're going to sing it in your head in English for the rest of your life. But you know, yeah, which is also why it's like when they reach out and get like someone who is like a native
Starting point is 00:25:10 speaker or something like that, there's always a moment of like, oh, shit, an anime at least. I remember having those like one serial experiments lane, the opening to Wolf's Reign with Steve Conte, a lot of Yoko Kano stuff, you know, or Origa, like the anime song starts and then you start and then you hear the first couple of words and you're like, okay, they're pretty good. There's no accent. Oh wait, it's a native speaker. Oh, she just contacted a Western person to sing this song. Okay. Or a Russian lady, you know, and you're like, oh, fuck, yeah, let's go. We're in there. But I had to put that, that like disclaimer out to punch mom to just be like, just let it get past the layer of the English, let it sit inside your head, right? Let it roll around for a bit
Starting point is 00:26:04 and it'll be fine. It's funny that you mentioned this because I actually recently ran into a situation of English on purpose. I commissioned Isaac Wolfen quiet Viking to make me a fancy new outro that ended up going like way over budget because they were like, what if we did this? I'm like, okay. And then it ended up being like a two minute production with like a professional vocalist who is fantastic. By the way, it's Halo sweetie. She's a vtuber. She's great. But these lyrics are so stupid. And this is a talented lady singing just real dumb English crap. There you go. Just stupid, stupid shit. And to to a degree, I'm like listening to it like, wow, this is great. And I'm like, Oh, no, I'm now kind of embarrassed because it's
Starting point is 00:26:58 Oh, it's dumb. Oh, it's real dumb. Yeah. Yeah. It's and like, and like, why is someone so talented wasting their talent on this stupid shit? There's there's this I mean, there's this feeling like I used to I remember when I used to feel that every time I heard like a really beautiful gospel choir used in some shitty stupid like in some like fart prank. You know what I mean? Yeah, like like church, right? Am I right? That guy who's comment I saw is mad now. Suck it. Anyway, the ultimate. It's religion. Nailed it. Creation. Anyway, don't try to just don't even think about it too hard. Just let it let it work. Let it let it let it do its thing. Whatever I would say, whatever you'd see, like, like a situation like
Starting point is 00:28:04 that where like, they hired a real choir to do this bit. And you're just thinking, man, this group of people probably very nice, you know, taking their time off on a weekend to come by. They might have been very skilled, very talented, right? And they might have they might have skipped out on on on church to, you know, for this gig or whatever. And they're singing these lyrics because they've been paid to. But boy, are they probably not proud. You know, there's there's there's those little moments where you're just like, I remember feeling bad. But yeah. Yeah. Anyway. English. It's still good. I like how I love it.
Starting point is 00:28:53 I bet you like, is that site even still up? Because one English dot com the place where yeah, the place where like my the term comes from in my brain was just, oh, it's right. I'm looking at it right now. The incredible. Okay, we're still going 2021. All right, beautiful, beautiful. Good to know. Because that's early internet. You know, early internet was just a collection of t shirts. They're selling a mask that says continued unmeasured, endless despair, however alive. There you go. Exactly. Little little baby jumper with a with a unicorn rainbow on it. And it's it's I hate myself and want to die. You know, the sonic Obama backpack. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Um, it's fucking disasters, you know, and then I and then all those all those boss coffee ads with what's his name? Oh, the guy who was Al Gore roommate. Anthony Jefferson. No, wrong. No, that's not that's not even a person. That's just a combination of words I made Tommy Lee Jones. Tommy Lee boss is the boss of them all. Yeah, exactly. He doesn't he doesn't care if you killed your wife or you know, and they had and they had like some of the early Arnold's ones in there and Brad Pitt where they basically were like, okay, he Brad Pitt agrees to do a commercial for these jeans. And they're like the most they can do is get five
Starting point is 00:30:39 seconds of him, like some at a party or something, just writing a surfboard down up some stairs. And then at the end, he says, he says, go marry San, which is the wrong name of the company. But then it turned it. It's not even the right name of the because it's it's like it's I think it's go Maru San or whatever. And he says the wrong thing. And then because Brad Pitt said it, it becomes slang and it becomes a real thing because of the wrong way he said it becomes the cool way. And it's like, yeah, he got like a million bucks for five seconds of that. Yeah. There was a whole, I want to say like 25 year period where part of your celebrities was go out to Japan and do the fucking circuit with the ads because they'll pay you just to stand there
Starting point is 00:31:32 and say something in broken Japanese that everyone can tell you don't understand. Yeah. Yeah. When when Tommy Lee Jones has to like be a badass teacher and he's just yelling things out very quickly where he's just like, he doesn't know what he's saying there. But whatever, it works for the bit. My my favorite. My favorite is like watching those commercials and seeing what kind of character they gave our Hollywood celebrity so that they can explain why they are a person of few words. So Tommy Lee Jones is very stern and barely talks. And it's a lot of like there are a couple that he doesn't say anything other than boss coffee. But and then we have the opposite. Then we have the
Starting point is 00:32:21 CEO of Domino's coming out being all like, Hey, motherfuckers, do you like Hatsune Miku? Sure. I was thinking of I was thinking of there's a Pierce Brosnan one where like post James Bond, they got him to come over and just what is he even doing? I think he's just whispering or talking to some blonde lady. And then he looks at the camera and then they it's it's like it's barely even a a lost in translation thing. But they got Pierce Brosnan as well to come in and just start saying things that sound, you know, incredibly British and thus charming and thus sell product, you know. Yeah, I'm watching it. It's just like a series of panning
Starting point is 00:33:12 shots of him looking handsome in a suit in like a rich place. There you go. Exactly. It's not and then and then he just says L else rain. Like I don't know what the product is. I don't think they showed it once paycheck paycheck, you know. Yeah. Good time. Excuse the money. But like all of that used to be like archived on English dot com and back in the day that was my like original source and that I like it's become such a thing that I'm sure that's just like old ass internet that the young ins were listening or were talking to these days might not have known about it. But you know, if it's up there and they have everything, you can dive through that site and just go back to like the full fucking catalog. You see kids back in 95. It was actually really time consuming
Starting point is 00:34:06 to take a decent quality digital camera photo and put it on the internet. So if you saw a like if you saw a funny photo of Chinese restaurant that said 404 not found as the title that that would be like gold or like solid gold or a restaurant called Dick and uprising. Oh man, I've never seen that one. Yeah, that was that was an old one back in the day. Dick and uprising restaurant. It's good. That's still be pretty funny today though. But but but like not in the ironic sense that it would be used today in the like no, we're actually going for something elegant in this restaurant, which is otherwise treated as an elegant high ambiance space, you know, got that good ambiance say. No, I didn't want to say it, but it came to
Starting point is 00:35:08 mind. You know, Maximilian dude made a tweet earlier this week, where he quote retweeted somebody who had a piece of advice for up and coming content creators. And it was to mispronounce words on purpose so that people get all but hurt over it because you're saying it wrong. You're saying it wrong. How could you do that? And Max, I think he retweeted like this is great advice. I would do this and it's like, who would ever do such a thing? Who would ever say words wrong on purpose? That's crazy. Easy. That's wild. What a wild concept. Is this Homestar Runner's fault? I mean, is this Sans Undertale's fault with the Lie Barbie?
Starting point is 00:36:08 You know, it's almost as if successful YouTube musicians might have also exploited this tech to get people engaging. It's possible. May have heard about this one before. It's one of those tricks. Tricks of the trade. If you want to really enunciate a word and make people think about the word, you say it wrong. The brain will go, what? No. And now they're thinking about it. It's like, want a lot of attention in a crowd? Shit your pants. The other really great tweet that Max put out was the one saying that it's okay to just see a fighting game, think it's cool and just play for a bit and then not touch it again. If you don't want to after that or like, or like play it and be like, I'm going to play a fighting game. Do, do, do, do,
Starting point is 00:37:05 do. And then stop and not be like, oh man, I really got to grind it out. I got to learn my combos. I got to rank up. When I was in high school, I had a group of friends that were competitive badminton players. They played constantly aggressively and really good. And some of them even continued like, you know, until I college years and such and would regularly have meetups to like get their games going. I would play sometimes and I always had a ton of fun. Badminton is really fun. I enjoy the shit out of it. I never got to the point of buying a racket, but I've always enjoyed playing it. And then when I'm done playing, I just didn't think about it. Badminton disappears and unless you're looking at a badminton net or racket, badminton
Starting point is 00:38:01 go away in the brain. If someone were to come along and bother me and pry me and or shame me for not getting out there and getting after it and my badminton pursuit of mastery, I would have probably gotten annoyed. Probably. One of these new players going to fucking grind it out and get top eight, man. Like most of them don't care. I'm just, I'm master. I'm trying to, I'm trying to just get the hang of like serving consistently and doing the little drop shots when I need to, as opposed to like, I didn't fuck up and I kept the volley going, you know? Yeah. Badminton is super fun. It's a really, it's a really, really good time every time I've touched it, but that's pretty much the only time I'm interested in playing it is when I'm playing it,
Starting point is 00:39:00 you know? So in other words, don't be a shit. You know, it's great about fighting games because I'm just as guilty of this, even though I just realized in my own head, I can just compare it to a real world example, which is like, imagine you had a big park with lots of badminton areas, right? There's tons of people playing it. And I'm like, oh, I love badminton. You've played badminton. I played badminton in high school a little bit with my pals when they were free rackets or the net was up or whatever. And yeah, okay, cool. I'll walk up and let's play. And it's like, oh man, you're not doing any drop shots. You're not doing any, you're not doing any badminton Roman cancels. I don't know. I don't know, man. I just, I just kind of want to play a good game. I
Starting point is 00:39:46 don't really want to spend all that time, you know, skilling up. I just want to play casual badminton. And then some gigantic motherfucker ran over and screamed at the top of his lungs, well, you're going to learn today and just proceeded to spike that shit into the dirt. Get motivated, white boy, get motivated. And then I was like, wow, that was really fun. Just started saying, that's what happens. That's what happens when you play badminton with killer. Let's get out of here. And it's like, now that being said, that wouldn't be a really good example, except I'm now thinking, dude, that I would play badminton every day. If it was like that, that would be so good.
Starting point is 00:40:36 No, no, exactly what I want. No, that being said, that being said, if you are interested in this world, then yes, right? Let's provide the tools. Let's provide the bridge, the gap, the information, the amazing fighting game glossary, the get into fighting games, streams, the shows, the water. Let's provide a means to get people to who are interested in going further. But that first step has to be taken. You can't shove. You can't shove. It's like, if you're down to jump out of the plane, then we can show you some cool tricks on the way down, but you got to jump out first. Now, you say Roman cancels in badminton and like, like a joke, but there are real Roman cancels in sports. Oh, I know. I've seen them.
Starting point is 00:41:38 I was going to do it. No, I'm not going to do it. I did a different Barry Sanders, the running back of back in the day for the Detroit Lions performed real Roman cancels on the field. Did it do the burst? Oh, like in the, in the, it had the effect of the burst because the people got knocked back. He's running left and he is now instantly teleporting to the right and everyone is falling over like fucking bowling pins to the left. He had meter and he spent it on his place. A really good crossover in basketball has the effect of a Roman cancel, you know? I remember being in high school and there was a kid named Saad and Saad clearly played basketball somewhere other than my high school gym
Starting point is 00:42:32 class because if he got the ball, he would just casually dribble it up to every single person on the opposing team and just trip them up and break their ankles and then saunter off to the next one and just do it. So one of the, one of the great stories of one of our mutual friends from back in the day was just about like the really tall athletic kid that just never stopped balling and like would run, running down the hallway would just constantly pull moves off on people on his way to class or whatever. And like one time he was late and he was sprinting and like everyone was doing their thing and then they're like, oh, here he comes. And like this poor girl was just walking with her books and then he like, he stops in front of her and
Starting point is 00:43:21 like he has like a fake ball in his hand and he like steps left, cuts and crosses right and like she spins to the left and doesn't know and then pushes off and spins around and never touches her and does it so quickly that she just crumples and falls to the ground, just collapses into a puddle and you're just like, you know, getting cut up when you were just going through your normal life. God damn. Oh, that's rough. Yeah. That's rough, man. You weren't even playing ball and all of a sudden you're like, oh shit, I got to stop him from taking it to the rim. You just, and then you just get annihilated ankles like blasted into the fucking into the ER. There's a, there's a social now that now that everybody's getting vaccinated and people are starting to at least go outside again,
Starting point is 00:44:17 right? There's a fun little social experiment that you can pull if you really want to like see the vicious awkwardness of people walking down the street, get some thick sunglasses and just walk directly towards people on the sidewalk and make no indication as to what direction you're going to move. And you will see people just fucking freak out trying to figure out what direction you're going to go. Oh, it's great. So something that there's like videos of on Instagram and shit that you can watch is because all of what we're describing is very North American. So in order in order to export that internationally, you go watch the the in other countries how basically someone who plays a whole lot of football, the soccer will just start funny. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:45:08 just dribble up to a stranger on the street and then just start doing tricks and like maybe they're just selectively editing it to be this way. So who knows, but like a whole lot of random ass people that are not even like within the same like young age group or anything, just get into position like, oh, I'm going to fucking stop him. Like people just start playing soccer like out in the wild. If you just come up to them with like a I'm going to get past you, what are you going to do? You know, why is it that whenever somebody picks up a soccer slash football, football, round ball for kicking and starts doing tricks in like a public square somewhere, there's always like a 98 year old Italian man somewhere in the distance. Yeah, yeah, and yo back there. He's back in his day,
Starting point is 00:46:00 man. Back in his day. Shit. The ultimate like goal goal goalkeeper that would fucking you know, like, yeah, you just it's just it's a thing and and it makes sense because again, it's like, what do you need to play American football, a team, a ball, a field goal, a giant yard and armor for every player? You need like for proper football, you need just a fucking crazy amount of space. You can play with flag, but like really, you need a whole lot of space. Oh, no, you need a lot of bodily harm. Yes. Yes. Right. What do you need to play soccer, a ball and like two stones for if you're getting fancy, you know? Yeah, the fact that like people here in Quebec go through the trouble to like like young kids get their like street hockey shit out and go pretty
Starting point is 00:47:01 intense at it and are like, yeah, well, well, yeah, exactly. And B gets surprisingly good at not destroying every parked car in the neighborhood with slap shots and and yeah, errant, errant passes. Yeah. Anyway, um, what is going on this week with me, you mean? Yes. All right, I played, I played a couple of video games. I'm going to talk about them now. I don't know why that was so awkward. I didn't know how to segue into that. All right. It's been two weeks. So I'm going to try and rapid fire this as best I can because I do have like three, four things to talk about. One is Nemesis came out for Dead by Daylight like proper release. There's a lot to like about Nemesis. He's so tall in game that
Starting point is 00:48:05 his head goes through some of the UI on the top of the screen. That's a cool effect. I'm always a like the, the, there's, there's like your points and your, your, your rank at the top of the screen and all the other killers had like, we're just scraping their, their heads against the tip of the bottom and his head is the biggest one by like an extra foot. He is, I believe as tall as the engine will allow because his head is like almost scraping up against a bunch of doorways. And on top of that, he's still shorter than he should be. They, they, they use his, his like coat and they shrink his legs a little bit. So he has to squeeze through doors. Yeah. And like people were thinking, oh, maybe, maybe like Lady Demetrescu could be there. It's like no way. It'd
Starting point is 00:49:00 be harder to hide with the proportions and she's even bigger. Like it's not possible. Nemesis has a cool gimmick where he whips you with his, with his gross tentacle thing and it infects you with the T virus. And then that allows the whip to hurt you the next time, as well as allows zombies that are placed on the map to attack you. There are two zombies that are like wandering around and will chase survivors. It's a really cool gimmick. It's not very good. Like he's, he's nice solid B. I think one of his, I think one part of his power is broken because the description doesn't do what it says does, but he's, he's like dead by daylight has a really awkward problem where it reminds me of like a lot of fighting game characters or
Starting point is 00:49:49 a lot of weapons and something like a warframe or a destiny is that when they come out, there is either, oh man, this character rules. This is the best character right away. Or wow, this character is bad. Terrible. In fact, there was a, I've, I've discussed over balance or under balance as an, as, as an entire thing. The, the, the, the, I discussed it before, but it was like a huge deal for dead by daylight to get Freddy Krueger. And Freddy was so bad that he had his own tear, which it went like, it was a S A B C and then Freddy in F. Wow. Okay. It was, it was like unbelievable to the point where he gave him a total rework and they, they tuned him up. But like, yeah. So with Nemesis coming in at, at like,
Starting point is 00:50:50 you know, B, like he's good, but he's not the best. It's fine. I would prefer some tweaks, but it's, it's, it's thankful. The only problem I, sorry, isn't Pyramid, Pyramid head pretty up there in terms of height too though? Like they're, they're supposed to be comparable at least. Like, so it's, it's an issue of body proportion. Nemesis has a really tiny head and he's got gigantic super wide shoulders, right? Pyramid head is maybe six, seven inches shorter than Nemesis, like just a little, but it's the tip of the top of the pyramid. Right. Like 90% of Pyramid heads body is around like the normal person's head area. The tip of the pyramid is okay. Okay. Yeah. And pH is always hunched over, whereas Nemesis stands
Starting point is 00:51:48 straight up. Pyramid head is around seven feet. Yeah. Nemesis is seven, three. Nemesis is supposed to be like eight, nine. And Demetrescu is nine foot six. Yeah. Christ. The only, like the biggest problem I have with Nemesis and it's a, it's like, it's not a problem specific to me, but it hurts me real bad is that he is just a worse version of pyramid head. They, they are both like, like ranged slash projectile killers that you try and bait out people and hit them through windows and stuff like that by, because, you know, when a survivor runs and jumps through a window, they go through a little animation, which means they can't move left and right. So if you fire it off as they hit the window,
Starting point is 00:52:36 you hit them. And I just, I was playing Nemesis and Pyramid head back to back and I'm like, wow, I can, I can, everything you can do, pH can do better. Ah, yeah. That's a bad thing to do for like a tool kit is if you just have someone that's like obsolete by the existence of another version. Yeah. They aren't exactly the same. So there is a meaningful difference in playing them because the zombie thing is, is cool, but the zombies aren't very helpful. Like I can see that they were afraid to make the zombies like really strong because that would be horrible. That would be horrible. But as they currently are, they're, they're a little weak. Yeah. Very happy with it. Are they unique to his scenario or he's the only character when he
Starting point is 00:53:26 spawns into zombie spawning with him. Okay. Okay. And they're pretty slow, but they're, and they can air quote attack survivors. But more importantly is when survivors run near them, they like put their arms out to like chase them. And even if they have no chance of catching them, you can see like through objects where the zombies are pointing. So like, if you're, if there's a zombie, the asset of the map and all of a sudden it's arms go up, you're like, Oh, well, there's a person over there. Okay. Like it's, it's, it's nice. It's a function. Yeah. Okay. What I'm not happy with is that the current release of dead by daylight is like extremely broken. And like they had the RPD map turned off the day it came out because it was so buggy.
Starting point is 00:54:14 And a bunch of other stuff. There's add-ons that don't work. There's like camera problems. There were the servers were going down over and over like whenever games been around for a long time. And it's kind of a mess. Whenever a crossover happens with a franchise, do they bring in like skins of survivors that can be like, you know, Leon or Claire? The nemesis release comes with Leon and Jill as characters as well as skins for Chris and Claire. So I ask this as a preface as a preface to the next question, which is, does the existence of the ability to do exactly that make something like reverse obsolete? Well, reverse is obsolete. Yes. But does this not just put the nail in the coffin when there's
Starting point is 00:55:08 a better multiplayer experience to be had? No, it kicks some extra dirt on the coffin. Right. Like that game is like you look at reverse and it is bad. And then you look at and you put it away, you kill it. And then you look at like characters running in an immaculately redesigned RPD and nemesis looks super good. Like nemesis looks much better in DVD from a visual perspective than he does in reverse. That is brutal. That's official, man. Oh, my God. Wow. Okay. Yeah. When the when the love is is being handled by the people who are working on a crossover that don't want to fuck it up so you can see more detail put into that than the official product. There is there is a little bit of a goofy thing with nemesis.
Starting point is 00:56:05 And that is his model is the nicest model in the game. Oh, okay. And not by a little bit either. It's way, way nicer than some of the older ones. And it's considerably nicer than the one they just put out. Like he's got the black tape look on it. And it's got all sorts of specular like shit all over it that is it's like he looks twice as good as some of the other killers. It's really funny. Is it just ah, yeah, I'm again, it's like I imagine. Well, we'll we'll get to it certainly, but like look how incredible Akuma looks in Tekken. He is right the best Akuma has ever looked. Well, the the thing with DVD is it's been around for five, six years and
Starting point is 00:57:09 some of those models were made five, six years ago. Right. Right. And as a result, they have been taking the ones that are like, oh, like doctor looked like bad. Like doctor never really looked good. And he only looked worse over time. So they remade doctors model, for example. And so they're going to go back and do probably everybody because they're they're basically just instead of doing the thing where they like it's a new version of the game, they're just slowly like this map has been completely redone. And the weird thing is that they're doing it like one map and killer and character at a time. So like you'll you'll go through one map like the asylum and like, wow, they really they really
Starting point is 00:58:02 clean this place up or like the the saw map. I forget what's called. I think it's called the warehouse. Oh yeah. Oh, it looks good. And then you'll go to like one of the older ones that never got touched and you're like, oh, it's there actually a full generation apart. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's like, oh, this is a this is a weird way to do it. But I guess you're doing the best you got with the resources you got with like games never used to have content seasons over the course of like a year years, you know, like or like five years later, it's still being updated. You're seeing new shit. The team's gotten better. Everything's advanced. But you're dropping it on top of the old shit. Yeah, like it also, I mean, this is second hand because
Starting point is 00:58:48 I don't personally play the the last gen console versions. But apparently the new updates just straight up make the game run worse. It's good. Because because of course they do good good. So like if you're a ps4 dead by day of light player like it's certain maps, like they had a nemesis has a memory leak, which isn't that big of a deal on PC. But on consoles, you'd get into a chase with nemesis and the nemesis player would drop down like 10 frames. It's like how did it release like that guys? It's kind of a fucking mess. So that's death by daylight. Hey, good game. You have the best thing about putting nemesis or pyramid head or a big fancy name into a video game like that by daylight is new players.
Starting point is 00:59:38 Just just tons of no perk leons to chew through. Just just eat them up. It's great. Yeah, no, a good cameo will bring fans of said cameo into place to experience said content. Um, yeah. And he did something. I did something so shitheaded yesterday that page was watching me started to yell at me. And it's like, what the fuck don't do that. And all I could think of is like that's they get that's why they're going to learn. I managed to kill some I mentioned down somebody like one foot away from the exit. Like they do a lot of players do this thing where they sit at the exit so that when you punch them, they fall into the exit gate so that they leave. Yeah, but this guy didn't quite get the distance right. So he was sitting there and I punched him
Starting point is 01:00:41 and I was able to pick him up and it was the last like 30 seconds of the match. So he started to crawl and I picked him up and I walked back about 20 feet and dropped him and he started to crawl towards the gate as time ticked down and right when he got to reach it, I picked him up and went back 10 feet and dropped him and then time ran out and he died. Yeah. Yeah. Now, now to be fair, standing by the gate and waiting to get punched is also a flex though, is it not? There's two things about this and this is where it did by daylight has this awesome kind of toxicity where it's the worst ever. But sometimes people are actually trying to be polite, but you can misinterpret it as toxicity and it is down to a single button press.
Starting point is 01:01:40 So if a survivor is standing like inside the exit gate to the part where if you punch them through and they escaped, that usually means they are letting you get an extra hit so that you can get a little extra points. They're going to escape anyway. Oh, so it's not a cut and dry like fall guys. I'm dancing at the gate style moment. Right. Right. So it's like, oh, they're actually they waited so that I could hit them, get a little extra points, grind up my stuff. That's nice. Okay. But if they crouch and happen to let go of the crouch button and they do the quick crouch stand up, that's a teabag, which is identical visually except for that, which means what they're actually doing is shaking their ass in your fucking face in the exact same spot.
Starting point is 01:02:38 One button. One button. That's all it takes. And depending on how hot you are from how the match went, sometimes you don't notice. I see. Like some got some guys will try to flashlight in your face and stun you and then not move. That's fine. Some guys will flick the fucking flashlight on and off in your face so that you won't get stunned, but it's annoying as shit. Right. Right. Right. Right. Okay. The little extras, the little thing. Yeah. The complex social language that develops within online games. The irony is that because Dead by Daylight has absolutely no in-game communication whatsoever until the post game. It has created an elaborate, but not entirely accurate series of pseudo communications, which can easily be interpreted
Starting point is 01:03:32 as GM or BM, depending on your mood. It's funny because I'm thinking about how and even even Strive, they continue to have this trend. Something unique to Guilty Gear games is they don't just have a taunt button. They have a taunt or respect button, depending on which direction you hold when you press it. And did you hold forward? You get a respect. And in the older games, it actually used to be separate function entirely. But every time someone stops and starts doing even a respect taunt, it's a taunt. Like no one's interpreting the moment you stop fighting. You know what I mean? You're whatever you're doing is still being thought of as a taunt. It doesn't, it doesn't register as anything but in the fight because it's a moment of taking it
Starting point is 01:04:32 less seriously, you know, in battle. What's Core A Gaming? Core A Gaming put out an incredible series of videos on fighting games. You should all check out Core A Gaming. He's great. But there's one of them. Which one is it? Is it the effects of Salt where he describes you looking over Evo footage and he describes somebody getting somebody in a corner trap and instead of going for like a better oaky situation, he just teabags him in the corner to cause mental damage. Sure. And describes like this shouldn't matter. Like logically, it makes no sense, but it causes such an instant emotional reaction in some people that it is way, way more valuable than anything you could actually do in game.
Starting point is 01:05:27 The creation of tilts. Absolutely. It's interesting because like, yeah, that idea is not one that I dislike, but I think it just fails in execution because implementing a respect button that has to be still like, hey, we stopped fighting for me to show your respect is just like, no, that's not going to work. I think, so have you ever seen that clip of two dudes fighting an MMA match and like one dude goes to kick one guy and he catches the leg and then the guy who's kicking whose leg is caught then like jumps and does like a big spinning like roundhouse with his second leg and the guy who's holding the leg leans backwards and dodges it in a really cool way and they both go, oh, yo, that was sick. And then one of them leans out and they just touch gloves.
Starting point is 01:06:22 You know, yeah, I've seen that. It's super sick. It's an awesome little exchange of like, that was badass. I respect that shit. They touch gloves and then get back to the match. If you want to do, you can't touch gloves in a fighting enough. No, right? So like, if you wanted to implement that in design, you would have to do something like make it happen with the games with the portrait in the top left corner, you know, or something like that or just like or something outside of the two characters fighting would have to say like, yo, nice or something like that. It would have to be it would have to be the respect taunt can be respect taunted back and it does something like the like the fist bump and third strike between
Starting point is 01:07:03 Ken and Ryu during the intro. Yeah, it would have to be you hold the fist out and then when they if they acknowledge it, then you dish some sort of right perhaps. Yeah, that's a that's that's a immersive way of doing it. Yeah. I just saw what might be the most insane person take on this topic. I think I can imagine which is somebody in the chat just said that they think that the best taunt the best respect taunt or button they have seen is the Mortal Kombat Mercy. And all I can say is are you crazy? The mercy is the most disrespectful shit. It's the complete opposite. What you think it is, sir, it is like pissing on a photo of your mom. I beat you. You're not good enough to beat me. I'm letting you try again. Yeah, no, not it's the most toxic thing you can do.
Starting point is 01:07:59 It's like turning around at the cabinet and going, yeah, you can get some hits and come on. I won't even touch the controls. I mean, there was a there was a thing of like, don't lose a always give up round two was a weird house rule at certain or not have a house rule, but like an arcade rule at certain places. That was a really common rule because a bunch of arcade. Yeah. And the basis of that was and it seems weird looking at it, but looking back at it now. But the basis of that was you spent 50 cents, you at least are going to get around to enjoy your game time. If you lose two rounds straight in 15 seconds, it sucks like financially, you know, it's it makes your 50 cents functionally 62.5 cents.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Sure. Like like on a math level, like it's if you were in two rounds or three rounds. See, now if you were to like, I like the idea of reaching out the bump and seeing if you get it back, but the problem is is then you get a meta game based on reaching the bump out and then playing chicken with them as they come back to bump and you let it go and you go, ooh, too smooth, you know, like, yeah, that's great. Welcome to Dark Souls. Sure. Sure. If you bow before your duel, you're stupid. But the only the only good bow in Dark Souls is when you bow to them and they're far enough away, you know, they can't do anything. And then you just start sprinting the instant you can
Starting point is 01:09:28 to hopefully catch them in theirs. Like it's it's again, if you give a reward that is like combat changing, it the there's an incentive, but then there's also a disincentive if you're in the lead and you don't want to give any particular advantage, you know, it yeah, it's you'd have to think about it. It's a cool idea, certainly, but there's better ways than just going for a taunt that's not a taunt, you know, that's the thing. I was saying that like my initial thought was like if it's off of the two fighter, the two characters fighting, then it ends up just being like almost like a part of the the the hide in a way. And it's like, okay, you take it or leave it, someone just said, yo, nice job, you know, respect for that or whatever. Yeah, you know,
Starting point is 01:10:19 but you don't have to stop fighting to do that. But yeah, yeah. Dead by daylight will continue to be toxic forever. Oh, man, it's crazy because the game has like a reputation for being toxic as shit. And I was playing it and they have like a battle pass thing. And when you when you finish a match, it says, hey, you earned blah, blah, blah, what do you know, the experience little drop down box comes down. And what cracked me up is that I realized that the drop down box covers the the post game chat for about 10 seconds, which is more than enough time to click out and leave the lobby entirely and never see it.
Starting point is 01:11:13 And I think that is legitimately their their method of fighting toxicity is by hiding the post game chat from you. You that's a design decision. Yeah, interesting. Interesting. Oh, man. So that's dbd. If if you're in that little post game post raid meet up room in 14, and you leave right away is that BM? Hold on in 14. Yeah. What do you mean? You know, when you finish a raid and then you can stand together for like a picture? Oh, no. It usually because because all raids in 14 have tokens. And you can like, let's run this 10 times and you can get a weapon. It's BM to stay in there. Because get the fuck out. We're running it again wasting time now. Gotcha. Okay. Now,
Starting point is 01:12:08 I don't I don't mean like staying in there for like 30 seconds. Like it's not like, hey, rush your fucking ass out of there. It's like, dude, it's been like five minutes. Get the fuck out of the instance so we can queue again. Yeah, okay. As for as for if you just queued into something. Oh, nobody gives a goddamn shit. So there's there's a form of like, menu BM. When you can see someone highlighting rematch, and then just scrolling down to fucking exit and bopping and you go, you see it. You see it. You fucking see them highlight the button and then bounce the fuck out and it's so shit. And you're like, with a menu, you have upset me. Yeah, it's real. It's a thing. So I'll tell you what, street fighter players have worse manners than
Starting point is 01:13:06 guilty gear players. I have had bigger audience. I have had almost every rematch on possible playing guilty gear, right? Like just every single time I link up with somebody when win or draw, devastating or not rematch, I think I've only had three people in like 1000 matches, not whereas in street fighter five. Oh man, people if people don't win, they are almost never going to rematch. Yeah. And it's like, it's the larger the audience, the more people playing the more people like people that like jump in and just like get very like anyway, like anyone like there's a lot of cases where someone who loses like five matches in a row and then like they get one in there and they're like, I'll just, I'll take it, you know, and that's it. Because I have a really
Starting point is 01:14:03 as opposed to finding out whether or not the person can adjust or not, because it's like, I'm better than that guy. End of story. Leave it on a high note. George Gustavo. I have a bad tendency to want to end my night on a win, which when I've been playing too long and I'm tired, can become very self-defeating because I'm like, I just just give me just give me a fucking win. Just come on. Give me. Come on. Come on. Oh, I lost again. All right. Just just come on. You know, it's like, let's be real. It's never going to happen, but I'll throw out another design idea that I wanted to implement into some sort of fighting game of some kind is the idea of after the match goes down, after the match ends, your rematch screen is someone sticking their
Starting point is 01:15:01 hand out. And then the, the accepting of the rematch is the other person grabbing that hand and picking you back up and then immediately camera zooms back out to the round one. And then you can just keep that, that rhythm goes instantaneously. Don't waste time. It's just hand out, pick them back up. Let's go again. And when you decide to conclude it, when you're like, all right, we're done thumbs up instead. And then we leave the screen, you know, but like you just stay in there with that constant ability to like pick you back up. Let's keep fighting. You know, that was something I wanted to do. That'll never fucking happen because blah. But anyway, um, yeah, yeah, don't, uh, don't get stuck in the mental trap that is
Starting point is 01:15:40 like ending on a W and then you get, you fall into the tilt vortex and then, oh, never heard that. Yeah. And then, you know, you spiral. That happens in, um, that happens to me in Tepin too, actually. There's a couple of times where I'll be like, all right, let me get one in there and I'll jump in and I'll win one. And I'll be like, all right, I'm done. I'm good. You know, and there's no rematch button in that game, admittedly, but like you'll get that you, you lose and you're like, okay, fuck it, fuck it, fuck it, fuck it. And then like five later, you're like, throw the goddamn phone away. We can't, we can't keep at this. Hey, Willie, I just want to say, uh, uh, on the side, uh, every time I see you, uh, tweet about,
Starting point is 01:16:23 um, uh, Tepin, I get a very strong feeling, which is dude, are you super good at Tepin? I think I'm pretty all right. I think I'm pretty all right. If I can, if I can crack, uh, close the top 100, I think I'm doing pretty okay of the, the, the people out there. Of course, like a lot of that is, you know, based on sort of like understanding the decks that people are throwing at you. And like, so what, like when the whole Phoenix Wright stuff came out, a whole bunch of new cards came out. And if you like, you could just kind of keep playing and ignoring those things, but if you go look at the new cards and seeing what they do, you can kind of be like, Oh shit, people are probably not using this one yet or whatever
Starting point is 01:17:10 and implement shit that might be, you know, still a little too new. So you can write out on a little, you can get a little bit of a, of a boost based on like unfamiliarity at certain points. Um, but yeah, I think I'm pretty fucking good at Tepin. Uh, that, that streak was my, my fucking, I was pretty proud of that 10 wins in a row. Uh, I think rank 111, uh, so that's pretty good. Uh-huh. Speaking of, you know, switch from fighting games to your true passion. The most passion ever. Yeah. Um, I don't know. I was like, I'm not, I can say like, Oh, when those card games add Virgil or whatever stupid thing, but the, but realistically, but realistically,
Starting point is 01:18:00 um, when I, when I, I played, um, they literally did. Is it Virgil card? Yeah. He's a card yet. I mean, no, I, I thought, I mean, I mean, in reference to other not Tepin games. Oh, okay. Because well, they all did. There's always, there's always, there's always a Virgil in there, trust me. No, my, the response, the, the number one most common response to me talking about Tepin anywhere is people going, Oh wow, Willie, you should try games that are not that play this other thing that's like a thing. And I'm like, yeah, I guess maybe, I mean, it's very similar to fighting games. If I announced that I, I was going to spend a lot of time playing a, you know, SF five or guilty gear and I didn't normally play fighting games. A lot of people
Starting point is 01:18:40 would be like, check out the other runeterra. I know, but, uh, um, you know, I'm just kind of where I am. I did play, uh, um, what's it called? Uh, um, I was going to say Gent, but, uh, Gwent. Gwent. Yeah. I was playing the Gwent game for a bit there and, uh, you know, it was not bad, but it definitely, it didn't hook me, I'd say. I don't care for Gwent, which is ironic because I was obsessed with Gwent in Witcher three. And it's like, once, once they made that game fair, I, I thought it was a lot less fun because the Gwent in, in the Witcher three because it's a single player game, it is not fair. Yeah. Not Gent. It's fucked up. I didn't, not Gent is in gentlemen. Gent is in DJ ENT as in the guitar chicken, chicken, chicken noise thing
Starting point is 01:19:32 that she did that that musicians do the style. Um, the doom, the doom music. Uh, what, uh, yeah, I, I, so the games, the card games inside of games, as you know, I'm a fan of, uh, triple triad. I, I played a fuck ton of on the, uh, on the, uh, the app version of the game, but it has an end. There's a, there's a, there's an end to it. So once I beat it, I was like, well, that's the end of that. I'd love to play continuous triple triad if it had a fucking live system going and shit, but I mean, in, in, in, no, you don't actually, because then you just fight people with the strongest cards and it's over. No, because, uh, they made it so that, uh, in ff 14 to play triple triad, uh, you know how that you can keep a lot of, uh, wins away from people is to limit
Starting point is 01:20:21 their cards, give many people the chaos rule set, uh, and make them not necessarily drop the card that they have unless you beat them 10 times or 15 times 14. So I got a, I got, and then when you go to the triple triad, uh, tournament or whatever, you're like, wow, a lot of win trading and cheating going on on this. Like it's crazy. Um, I got a buddy of mine who has every triple triad card and has like a special mount that's a triple triad card and getting that took him the entire time. I've known him playing ff 14. Well, that's fucked. Okay. Uh, because, so is that what you want, Willie? Make an account just to get into triple triad. Yeah. Yeah. If that's the only way. Um, I mean, uh, I'm, I fucking, I love Pizzac, you know, like, uh, I dig these things, but, um,
Starting point is 01:21:15 yeah, no, uh, with, with speaking of like the whole new players are coming and, uh, you get to enjoy the influx. Um, I look forward to the influx of breath of fire fans that will now come check it out. Cause breath of fire's only like acknowledgement in decades is that it's coming to tepid. They just had a trailer that showed off some breath of fire shit. Woo. I like breath of fire. Yeah. Come, come take a look. No. Okay. Well, that's, that's fine. Um, uh, something that you should probably take a look. Willie, uh, devolver sent me a code for a game called phantom abyss. Have you seen this at all? Like at all? Have you, do you even know what I'm talking about at all? Not at all. Okay. So phantom abyss,
Starting point is 01:22:10 I'm going to grab a video and send it to your way so you can, uh, take a gander while I discuss this. It is a rogue-like runner, uh, in which you're a first person. You are a first person running person through a Mesoamerican temple, uh, like real temple of doom kind of shit. You get a whip. I like these words. I like these words. And, uh, the gimmick is, is that the, the space, like the generalized layout of the, of the run will be more or less the same and they'll shuffle rooms. Oh, is this the only, you only get one shot thing? Yeah. I saw that. I saw it. Yeah. It will be different. Yes. And each temple configuration you can only attempt once and there is only one person allowed to complete it. Yeah. I did see this and I was
Starting point is 01:23:00 wondering though, like it's like the trailer, it took way too long to explain that it'll just reseed the, the, the temple. Cause at first I was like, wait, there's one level and every player gets one try to play this game and then you're banned forever. How does that make any sense? Yeah. It's the, it's the seed of what traps are and what order rooms are in. I did see that. I did see that. So, um, what I don't know if you knew the whip could do is when you hold down left trigger and hit right trigger to like hold down left trigger to aim whip and then hit right trigger to shoot whip is that the whip will latch onto surfaces and propel you. Hey, Indy. Um, so you will, you can do it on corners. You can do it on ceilings. You can do it on walls. Yeah. Indiana
Starting point is 01:23:58 Jones thing. Right. Yeah. Yeah. That's the cool. Uh, the movement is, is very clearly designed off mirror's edge one with a whip. Is there a 180 button? No, because you're not doing 180s. You're moving forward. Right. You're, you're running your ass off. Uh, as, uh, like you'll do like, uh, you know, series of rooms one and then series of rooms two will add a giant angry head that is chasing after you or shooting poison at you or whatever. Because the first couple, you can, you can like slowly move through and there's no rush. And then on the second batch of rooms, they're like, no, here's your fucking reason to rush. Yeah. I saw the trailer and the first thing I thought was like, I guess it's been enough time since the explosion of Fall Guys and
Starting point is 01:24:50 its first derivative. Yeah. It's, it's been enough months that this is about the time we'll see that it'll start dropping. Yeah. This is absolutely the substantial, uh, tweak on the Fall Guys formula. I know when I say mirrors edge, I mean, like I'm telling you, man, that when you die from a gigantic height and hit roll right before you hit the ground, it feels exactly the same. Okay. Um, the, the goofiest part about it that's the most interesting is that everyone who died on the run you are attempting shows up as a ghost. Yeah. And you can see the super meat boy style, like giant, uh, uh, flay of like all their attempts and you can follow one and see what happened. Right. Except here's the thing. The ghosts still affect the environment.
Starting point is 01:25:40 The ghosts trigger the traps. Oh, Oh, okay. I was like, ha, ha, funny ghosts. And then I saw somebody whip like a, a spinning blade and it stopped and I went, Oh, you can do that. I didn't know you could do that. Okay. Cool. And then, uh, more interestingly, I had 10 ghosts run along a floor that has those blocks that disappear when you run on them. And I tried to run after them and they caused the blocks to fucking disappear and fell into a pit. So sometimes it helps and sometimes it's bad. So it is asynchronous ghosts, but it functions as actual multiplayer. Interesting. Okay. Um, it's really, really cool. And the benefit of staying behind somebody is seeing all the
Starting point is 01:26:35 shit. The shit, but you also have to be the first one to complete it. Therefore, nobody's ever going to make it all the way and tell you everything. There's always going to be, and also there's some, there's usually something behind you, like chasing you a couple levels in. Okay. Um, there are treasures that you can get that you can cash in for blessings. One of the blessings I got was a double jump. So there's a significant like increase in power. Uh, it seems super cool. It seems super rad. It just came out. It's early access. Um, it's significantly early access in that, uh, when there are more than two ghosts on the screen, the frame rate drops by about 80%. Nice. Um, and, uh, when I turned the game off, it crashed OBS.
Starting point is 01:27:27 Lovely. Okay. Like I, like exiting the game, just outright killed OBS. How many runs did you, did you give a shot at? Oh, I don't know, like 2030. I didn't get very far. So the question is in the roguelike fashion, like, do you start to see the bits and pieces of the same rooms stitched together? Absolutely. You start to see the same rooms in general stitched together, but there's just enough that is different that, uh, it's fine. And I really didn't get very far at all. Like, uh, I, I maybe saw like, I never got to the third batch of rooms. Okay. Like I would, I would do the first one. I don't think I ever beat the second one. Like it's, it's plenty, even, even if I, even if I had to, oh, it's the same thing every time.
Starting point is 01:28:23 Yeah. I would probably have to learn it because I'm not doing very well. Okay. But that, yeah. So that, but that whole like, there's one unique dungeon thing. It's like, ish. So like a good example is there's a part where you go into a big room where you have to whip up to a big, wide flat plateau. Sometimes it's completely empty. Sometimes it has spikes that you could fall on naturally. Sometimes it has a rolling pin kind of thing that you have to jump over. That kind of thing. Okay. Phantom. Yes. Yeah. It's super cool. It's, it's absolutely super, super rad. I'm, I'm very excited to see it. I, yeah. Like I just, I, when I was, again, that first impression of like, you only get one shot made me think it was like, I'm like,
Starting point is 01:29:15 oh wait, what's the point of this? And then I was like, is this only for influencers to play on stream and then no one will ever play this game ever again. Like I could, you know, and then it's just like, no, no, it's a roguelike. Okay, got it. It's a roguelike. Yeah. Though it is cool because it means when you beat your run that would lock out anyone else that is currently doing that run and go, no, somebody beat it, get out. It's early access and it's early. I played it the day it came out. I actually played it before it came out. So I was playing in, in rooms that are like three people died in here. Two people have attempted this. And then I near the end, uh, the last run I did, which I think was like 20 minutes after it came
Starting point is 01:29:59 out, it was 20 people have died in here. And it was a shit show. Oh, but you're playing, but you're, you said it's asynchronous multiplayer because of the ghosts affecting traps, but you're the only one in the temple. Yeah. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Little blue ghost man's run around, but they're just AI ghosts, like a driver. So I, okay. I thought you were all, again, fall guy style running at the same time while people were seeing ghosts. And I thought that like with that, every game would result in a winner and thus a locked seed. And I was like, this can't last. How long can this last? If like every single time you play it, a seed gets created and locked out, you know? And I mean, if it's a good seeding system that you
Starting point is 01:30:53 can go quite a while, but it's every time someone attempts it and dies, it doesn't get locked out until you actually beat it is what, is what, is what it is. That makes a lot more sense. Okay. I was kind of imagining a weird situation where, yeah, like you're playing fall guys, for example, and then every time you play fall guys, you see a new map. And then at the end of that map, it's gone forever, you know, you would eventually, I'm sure at some point, like see unique, the seeds could continue to be unique. I mean, like fucking, like if you do like any game that uses seeding as a system, but the attachment of the rooms you've all done before will eventually just be like, it's the same five rooms, except they've been arranged into four, three, five, one,
Starting point is 01:31:42 two, you know? And then the traps get rearranged within that. Also, sometimes the dipshit ghost in front of you might trigger a trap that you have to avoid because he's an idiot and he triggered a trap in his own playthrough. Sorry that I had to get up and leave. There was a spider. Oh, okay. There was a spider I had to kill. Those things are dangerous. They can fuck it. They can scurry around and scare you. And scare you. Exactly. The, so do you see ghosts that are like edging to up to cliffs and waiting behind other ghosts? Oh, totally. My favorite is that there, there's a really common super long drop, like a drop that will kill you for sure if you do not roll. And if you are taking your time picking
Starting point is 01:32:36 up chests, what'll happen is you will get to that drop and start to fall and you look down and there's like five corpses at the bottom. Because it's all the people who botched their role and died. Nice. It's super cool. It's such a cool game. Like, I'm very excited. This is a great idea for Rogue-like. And, and, and, and it controls well. Like, that's to me, that's the number one. Like, it's a runner, it's a jumper, a first person movement game. Okay, one more thing about the seeding system. It locks it away when someone wins, but until then you can retry the same one. You can never retry it. Okay. Yeah. All right. Ever. You get a random seed and then no one will ever get that seed again once you beat it, but you're never, you personally will
Starting point is 01:33:28 never get it again. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Like, if you fucking horribly botch it and die, you can get like a room code and send it to your friend and be like, Hey, man, maybe you can do it, but you're not allowed to attempt it. It's super rad. I like it. Anything else? Yes. Most importantly, Willie, I want you to close your eyes and I want to, I want to do an imagination exercise for this. Okay. I want you to think of Sonic the Hedgehog. All right. Do you see him? Mm hmm. Now make him. He's made up of Minecraft blocks. Okay, that's fine. All right. Now, he has a video game, right? Sonic the Hedgehog does video games and sometimes he runs around
Starting point is 01:34:26 and sometimes he jumps on like a rail, right? Uh, can you see Sonic in his video game? He's rolling around at the speed of sound. Yep. Right. Now imagine if Sonic was like yellow or like gray and the game he was in was good. Oh, so now I'm not seeing a hedgehog. I'm seeing an electric jester. No, you're seeing a Lombax in this particular specific situation. Okay. Because you know, there's a good yellow Sonic and it's called Spark the Electric Jester. So Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart came out. Yeah. The, hey guys, look what the PS5's SSD can do video game. Mm hmm. It is stellar. It is, I would put it up there with like some of the better,
Starting point is 01:35:33 like 3D Mario games. Does Ratchet and Clank involve the that much running that you'd make that comparison? No, I made that comparison when I was running around shooting guys like Shadow and then did a section in which I was doing three side by side speed rails. I see. Like all of Sonic's rail grinding things. And then I got to a little cutscene with a bunch of animal friends. Okay. And I was like, oh man. So it's a PS5 tech demo. Yeah. It is visually immaculate. There is a lot of really like they showed off in the, what do you call it in the, in all the trailers like, haha, you fell through a portal. Now you're in a pirate area or world shifting. Yeah. Right. And it never looked that impressive. It was just like a little visual trick.
Starting point is 01:36:24 There's a level that they show off in about halfway through the game that is like, oh, this is the, this is the, the, the level that was in big letters on a whiteboard make this level work. Where you're hitting a, you know, you're switching between two dimensions of a destroyed planet that has super upside down shit ass gravity and a working mining planet. And it is instantaneous. And it is the whole goddamn level switches over. And it is fucking nuts. But more than its technical prowess. The game is just excellent. It's just absolutely like stellar, good, good feeling, controls great, looks great, runs great, sounds great. Any opinions on previous Ratchet and Clanks? Yeah, I played the PS2 games and they were fantastic then. Okay. And they were kind of technically
Starting point is 01:37:30 amazing back then as well. I am definitely thinking of Titanfall 2's time traveling system in that level. Oh yeah. It's, it's the same, but like dramatically expanded, like big, huge. It is like, how do I put this? It's been a long, long, long time since I played a video game in which literally every single thing that happened or I got, I went, ooh, that's good. One of the first things that you get is they, you can get these big gold bolts that are floating around in the environment. And they, you grab them and they unlock cheats or unlockables. And like, okay. So one of them is like photo filters. One of them is big head mode or small head mode, which looks fucking nightmarish. But the first one is change,
Starting point is 01:38:44 like, you know, you hit boxes and like currency comes out and it's nuts and bolts and little pieces of metal. Change it to Mario gold coins, Zelda rupees, or fucking energy drinks. Okay. And, and when you change them, the sound effects associated with them also change to the copyright, not copyrighted, but like to the literally other fragile distinct, legally distinct. It plays a Mario noise or a sonic ring noise somewhat similar. Okay. Because I mean, even if it was legally okay to, it would be a weird move to just do it unapologetically. I got a goddamn thing that can change your rat, your, your like wrench or your hammer into a different thing. And it's like, Oh, it could be a pirate sword or this or just literally a
Starting point is 01:39:42 keyblade. Okay. It's just nonstop bursting polished immaculate. It's, it's so good. It's easily like the best like exclusive game of that I've seen this year. So yeah, I mean, I've never, I've never played any of them. But I do get the impression that this is how well, it would have been it's I guess it's supposed to be like Crash Bandicoot. But like if anything, I guess it sounds like this is how you answer your Mario Odyssey's and your Mario Galaxies of the world. This absolutely feels like Sony's Mario like absolute like a hundred percent. Um, like, and it's, it's, uh, I don't know what to call it. It's a, I would call it a platform shooter that we're like, it control, it can, it controls like a 3D platformer, but it gives you
Starting point is 01:40:46 a gun. Yeah, that's what the trailers always showed me is you run and you shoot things. And then you jump on the returnal thing where half trigger gives you something in full trigger gives you something else. And it's the ratchet and clank games have always lived and died based on their weapon selection. Um, and Insomniac does great weapons and this is some good shit. So let me tell you about Mr. Fungi. I've been, I've been sold on the, um, I've been turned around on that semi trigger function thing, by the way, like I mentioned it, well, it's, it's real good sounded, sounded not great from your description and playing it. It's like, no, no, this works. Definitely the most common thing is that when you have a grenade one, you do it halfway and
Starting point is 01:41:43 you see the targeting reticle and the arc and then you pull it full and you tosses the grenade. Right. Like that just, uh, but let me tell you about Mr. Fungi. So Mr. Fungi spelt like MR and then space F U N G I. It's a, it's a mushroom man. Uh, and when you throw him down, he's a little turret. Uh, he's a little mushroom dude with an eyeball, uh, and, uh, points finger guns at people to shoot them with little projectiles and goes, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, and looks like hungover and will show up with dialogue that goes, eh, I'm a really fun guy. Woo. It's, it's almost Mr. Me seeks ish. Okay. And that when he despawns, he like bursts into spores and dies and is sometimes excited. Okay. To die. Um, yeah. Cool. And you level these things
Starting point is 01:42:45 up. So, oh, he shoots more often or enemies are more likely to target him or he'll explode and do damage, that kind of thing. Uh, and the second to last upgrade is you can have two fun guys out at once, which is great. And then the final upgrade, which is automatic is you get Ms. Fungi and it's Mr. Fungi with a bow and they, when you throw it out, Mr. and Mrs. Fungi come out simultaneously. Sorry, it's Mrs. Fungal. My mistake. Oh, okay. They come out as a couple and do their miserable crap and you can have two of those out. So within the span of one level, you go from tossing one dude to tossing four dudes that are all miserable fucking mushroom people that want to kill themselves as they do a little finger gun dance. It's, it's awesome as a
Starting point is 01:43:42 weapon. Like it's, it's great as a like a turret, but it's also like legitimately charming. Like I love Mr. Fungi. I love that he wants to die. So I love that he hates life. So based on, based on the description of like the humor here, uh, I'm guessing I'm not 100% certain, but I don't think this, there was this franchise didn't ever go, uh, this world isn't suited for clank. It's more suited for ratchet and then they got rid of the second name and made a serious version of it. No, it is, it is pure Pixar. Okay. And then they zoom in on a character's face and you get to see every single goddamn hair on the fur and you're like, this looks way better than a bunch of Pixar movies because I just remember also it did do that. There was a game called deadlock. Oh, well,
Starting point is 01:44:45 there we go. All right. All right. So it's like, it was like super edgy because I will never, ever, ever forget like the, no matter what the games, I've never played any of them, but all I remember is the end of the commercial where they go, they go, uh, this world is more suited for Jack and it zooms in on Jack's face as he's all goateed up and there's no Daxter. Fuck Daxter. Yeah. It's like really interesting because Sony was putting out through like second or third parties, like a lot of those games you had Spyro, you had Jack and Daxter, you had Ratchet and Clank, you had Sly Cooper and Ratchet and Clank was the one that got to live because the other ones just kind of either faded away or like actively ruin themselves. Like like Jack and Daxter one is a Mario clone
Starting point is 01:45:43 and then Jack and Daxter two, they give him a gun and he swears. They also got that game still ruled actually. Okay. But like that, like of those things, it was Ratchet and Clank and Sly Cooper that survived and got movies and stuff. Yeah. Well, I mean, there hasn't been a Sly came in a while. Okay. Who makes Sly? Is it the same studio or is it? I mean, I know it's treated as first party as well, but I don't know. Is it Psygnosis? Okay. Who the fuck? Who makes it? Hold on. Sucker Punch. Okay. Makes Sly Cooper and did they die? Mmm. No, they made Ghost of Tsushima. Tsushima. Tsushima. That's true. That's true. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:38 No time for raccoons. But Jack and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank and Sly Cooper are all in my head as alternate Mario's for Sony that Crash Bandicoot is not doing that. No, I didn't get to touch. It's it's really weird because I almost said brash candy. There are straight up like knockoff Crash Bandicoot levels in Jack in Ratchet and Clank. Like some of the little mini game levels have you running across like exploding boxes and it's like, wow, this is a Crash Bandicoot level. This is 100% that. But like Sly Cooper hasn't had a game since like 2005. Like that that shit is gone. I guess it was there was there was also it was the re it was the resurgence of the mascot era when back in the Super Nintendo days as well, there was
Starting point is 01:47:41 a there was another mascot era of like, all right, we see that Mario and we see that Sonic. But have you seen Titus the Fox? Have you seen Arrow the Acrobat? You know, and just and then the collection and shit of fucking, you know, bubsies and tie the Tasmanian Tigers and just everyone trying to one up the mascot game, you know, and then it thankfully did fucking die off and quiet down before they at least came back and went like, all right, let's let's do it again. But we have an idea. We have a gameplay thing to do here. So you know, like Spyro and Ape Escape and shit end up being like unique in their approach to things. But there was just a whole lot of look, it's a it's a it's a character with gloves that
Starting point is 01:48:39 has their mouth open. Do you want to? Do you want to buy it, kids? And it's like, that's not good enough. You got to do more than just make a shitty platformer here. So that was like round two of that. The one that always burns into my mind is Vex. Vex is out there. Yep. Zero the kamikaze squirrel. Tomba had a cool art style, so I didn't mind Tomba. But yeah, man, they really just they went in and and and it was rough. It was rough. But if you bring something fresh to the table with it, I don't mind. That's that's all good. But anyway, yeah. So but but all those Sony games I remember just didn't have a PlayStation at the time. So I just, you know, didn't really ever dive in. Cool.
Starting point is 01:49:32 What about? Oh, I was gonna say like what is is the is there any other feature besides the trigger thing that it does that's like a PS5 flex? The the loading ship. Okay. The the you're constantly they they really love to open up portals and dump a bunch of enemies as you can see an area that is a completely different biome in the behind you or move you around the level quickly or dump you into completely different types of levels instantly because I'm waiting for the game that Sony is going to fund that forces you to acknowledge and use cards. Because you know they know no one gives a fuck about your stupid card system. They're they're in the way of my cross media bar essentially. I'm trying to get to the settings
Starting point is 01:50:28 or to the next game or to my fucking downloads and your your dumb moment boxes are popping up and we hate them. But no one's using them. So maybe we need a game that'll like make you use them in some way or some shape. Who knows to to quick zip you back and forth between. I don't know. I don't know what. But I feel as if something would be in the works to to flex those features because I I think that's the only new PS5 thing that is like just completely fucking ignored right now. I completely forgot about that. Yeah. Like like for a second there I thought you were making it up. It's clutter. It's just it's in it's the thing. There's your game. Then you then you pull up the menu and then there's this the row in between the row you want and the games and it's this row
Starting point is 01:51:21 of fucking things that I don't want to deal with. You know I want boot game and options for how to boot game. Yeah I agree. Anyway we'll see. Yeah so I feel kind of playing ratchet has one weird one very weird thing about it that I have never encountered playing a game before in my life which is wow this game is great. Oh I love it. And the average response from people that I've talked to about it who I would otherwise just chat about is I don't want to hear about it. Shut up because they can't get a PlayStation. Oh yeah. Is like it's a game that they would be playing right now but they literally just can't and it's I've never encountered this. I when I was talking about the cards that that did flash and it sounds like it's going to continue
Starting point is 01:52:23 to be the case for the rest of this year seems like 22 is going to be possibly when people might get their hands on one that doesn't get scalped immediately. So it's it's I don't know I think it was on stream when I was talking about this because we didn't do a podcast last week and it's like yeah there's the chip shortage right and there's shipping issues and all that but I really genuinely feel like the number one problem is that most sales have to be online because of you know countries various levels of of COVID vaccination and you know in person like once you're able to just go stand in line for a couple hours to get one at least you can hit a situation where they have them in the store as long as I don't fucking move I'm a get one
Starting point is 01:53:23 instead of trying every couple days when Sony goes hey we're going to sell some online and a bunch of robots do it because robots can't currently go to the place in person. In the meantime um like everything is still PS4 and that is the going to be the continued case for a while like everything is releasing straight to both and and and no questions asked like anything that hard commits the PS5 right right now unless you're getting your money from Sony it's not worth it you know like you want you want to get like if you're going for like a demon souls remake or whatever it's like all right well help pay for some of this because you know people can't fucking get these things right now yeah it's it's one of those things where I remember seeing
Starting point is 01:54:18 when 2023 really I thought I saw an article that said um that they were expecting the the production to go up in 22 to a stable rate that should allow people to get them I saw something implying it was next year but who knows man because like demand is is the issue right like it's not even supply like you could you could double supply right now and demand is so much higher the people are still going to scam it um the it reminds me of uh I saw a lot of kerfuffling when horizon zero dawn um no no that's not the name of the game horizon forbidden west they showed it off and were like hey look it's going to be look real cool uh and it'll also come to the the ps4 and there were some folks that I knew they were like this is a bummer I hate it
Starting point is 01:55:23 why right and it's like I don't it's a bummer that it's coming to the ps4 yeah because they wanted to like take full advantage of the PlayStation 5 oh shut the fuck up holy shit and what a stupid fucking take I I because they because they really hate loading hallways yeah no man like that no that's I I've had multiple games I've I've gotten for the ps5 um like auto download and start downloading the ps4 version weirdly I don't know why that happens but like there's a bunch that I like you grab and it's like yeah no there's both grab one or the other and and shit like that um it would be stupid it would be financially stupid to lock out ps4 owners right now and if you're complaining about that then like fuck off pay like like what
Starting point is 01:56:19 then what would you pay the price of of taking all those ps4 sales away and and attaching them divided to every ps5 owner like that's a stupid that that makes no sense it's fun it's financially dumb the thing that I don't get is like usually you would make an exclusive to drive adoption of your new console but they literally can't make them fast enough so making more exclusives just you can't sell more of the console you don't have enough of right there's that you know there's always a moment in between generations when it's like okay how much compassion will you have for late adopters versus trying to hype people up to get on your thing and it'll be like all right well look we're releasing two zeldas but this one has waggle controls in an inverted world
Starting point is 01:57:13 you know or whatever the case is and like there'll be like things that are like yeah try this new thing out it's exclusive on this but you can go this way too maybe I don't know and and and then you kind of you split the difference here and there but then eventually it kind of moves on and goes it goes the way it goes in general usually the only thing prohibiting people at that point besides the initial month or two of like huge rush is um just the money to buy it you know but like if you go on a fucking full year of release and it's as if the thing is still in its pre-order days like nothing's changed nothing's changed it feels exactly like it did before it came out in terms of like how many people are trying to hit up every one of these things
Starting point is 01:58:00 blowing up amazon still all the little groups all the little sites all the places still going through it people are still trying to do their their their um drops on walmarts and things like that and it's like yeah that's just not a circumstance you can you can compare it to and go like yeah no fuck off uh everyone who had the old console it's been long enough now like it would not when people can't fucking buy the thing then yeah no keep releasing things that they can play your game on I think I think what they should do is that for horizon zero dawn the loading hallway should be like a like a door that aloy struggles to open and she's like I can't do but on the ps5 she just opens it she just walks open to it and just pushes the door apart and
Starting point is 01:58:49 was like oh man it's super strong I can't believe I was able to open that door so easily optimize for the system you're on yes that's fine but I like what is like what are these people saying that they're complaining like I don't you know what I mean like what's the I mean you want me to go back and see all sorts of stupid shit the kicker boots and Mr. Phil said about this when I had the same argument with them two weeks ago I could do that but I remember that my general point was like hey man it's the exclusives for something you can't buy don't sell more consoles and the response was yeah but the exclusives will be there later so it'll give it a longer lifespan some shit and I'm like that's stupid you guys are stupid okay well I have not seen the wording of
Starting point is 01:59:41 it but if what you're describing is essentially what it boils down to and the word we have to remember that the wording is I'm talking about somebody who fucking DM'd me out of nowhere to remind me that Shepard was gonna colonize Liara's blue sea so I don't know how seriously I should take this point of view fair it took me a second to um not that but like people started shouting lombussy and I'm like yeah I didn't know what the race was of Lombax yeah I didn't never played the games didn't know that so that was a new one so I was like yeah I was going Falco Lombardi yeah what are we doing here yeah that would you know what yeah okay I gotta I like my question my only question is what does the
Starting point is 02:00:42 B stand for what do you mean bussy well because because you gotta know oh no little bussy man because you because you know hold on because you got a girl Lombax there too that could be Lombax pussy and not Lombol boy pussy oh so it gets complicated or simple actually it just applies to okay so like if we had like hussy which is like humans hussy yeah that's what hussy is hussy yeah and that's why it gets that you say that it actually predates this whole thing but that's why but and that's the level of complexity here because it's like hold on a minute when you zoom out on it it does it it linguistically no yeah no yeah and I get so do you just said the worst thing and I hate it hussy does not stand for horse pussy you stop it
Starting point is 02:01:48 stop it it's for humans that's not what I said did you just horse pussy is not for humans Pat no hussy whatever and no it's not I don't want to get into that that was a nightmare too late what you see that on twitter a couple weeks ago what wait what oh you didn't see that oh man it's a huge thing all these super gigantic twitter accounts were dunking on this guy who was like proved to me bestiality is immoral and use a real argument and they were like no gross I'm good I'm good I'm good I'm good I'm good I'm good they're really gross to fuck off and he's like no that's not a real argument no I'm good I'm good I'm good
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Starting point is 02:13:28 avengers it'll dock to you all right so yeah that's that that's that's docket piece then it's quite simple marvels avengers got updated and the it patched in some kind of bug which shows your fucking ip address on screen and that's a bad and if you take a look um man it's it's got your username and then your ip address and the screenshot i saw was actually like censoring something else as well so there's two pieces of sensitive data it was it was censoring a string of letters that the the the guy who put up the screenshot couldn't understand so he didn't want to take any chances yeah that's good smart smart yeah who knows um don't don't do that so uh boo crystal d with the avengers on that one that's not good if you if you were let's let's
Starting point is 02:14:25 let's just let's role play a situation let's assume you were back working in queue right let's just role play it okay sprinting down the hallway i want to i want to start it come on as you're at your desk you're doing your shit you're you're you're in compliance right you're you're still doing compliance right okay hey walley what's up oh there's uh there's a bug uh the game shows everybody's ip address on the screen you can't turn it off say that again you can't turn it off it shows the username the ip address the date the time and some other identifying information for their console can you pass around the screen like a dvd man you can't turn it off just everywhere can you reproduce it yeah it's every
Starting point is 02:15:17 everybody cool head home for the day you're done good job write it up take the take the rest of the day off enjoy um running down the hallway to get to the phone to tell the people that this needs to be pushed through immediately um holy shit holy shit it's on fire but you're also as you're running down the hallway you're taking high fives for finding the sickest fucking uh failure and you did a good job good good good catch although let's be real you didn't catch it everyone did the show up on everyone's thing yes um so um would you would you because i feel this way but would you classify their decision to not take the servers down until the hotfix went up as uh not prudent or immoral because no they didn't tell anyone they are they actually said there's a bug fix coming
Starting point is 02:16:27 out for the strange floating text um yeah um i mean so here's the thing i i you there's an argument to be made there and what i would say is the way it ought to go and probably does go is you inform sony immediately yeah and they make the call on how that plays out okay um i have told the story of the the time i found a psp bug that uh basically resulted in corrupting a save of a really shitty american dating sim uh would result in first the save turning into a save for the wrong game it would just turn into a save for a different game or at the very least identify itself as a save for the wrong game okay and then it would kill your firmware and the process of reproducing the bug meant we had to go and do a fucking you know kit reinstallation and reset up thing because it was
Starting point is 02:17:47 it literally would nuke your console and then it's like okay uh this is literally miracle class this is beyond cba s like you can't like this is this is class action lawsuit bug consumer destroy consumer product destroyed like it's beyond you know um and yeah like that was that was admittedly this was not in a retail build this was in a in a in a testing build certainly it's not it's not shipping like this yeah but like if in a real world scenario or something that nightmarish were to occur uh you you get the fucking hardware manufacturer on the line and tell them about this insane liability that they're about to uh encounter and then they decide how to proceed you know i don't i don't know what it's called but there's a couple games that have had this bug
Starting point is 02:18:40 and it's it's just lit every time it's most famously by bungee's myth which is hey can you uninstall the game off your pc and it goes great format the drive wait i installed it on c don't worry we're gonna format oh oh christ why why would you have designed it this way yeah yeah messy installations are so fucking annoying man and because there's no consistency between like there's no like there wasn't any pc compliance for years it was just up to however they wanted to handle it how do you want to handle extracting packages how do you want to handle um um you know writing to the registry how do you want to handle every aspect of this are you going to put the saves in a documents folder that'll then be cloud saved or are they all going to be in
Starting point is 02:19:39 program files so what do we do like it was such a mess it was the wild west back in the day you know so i'm just thinking because this i just looked it up steam came out in 20 2003 was the year i graduated from high school uh and also the same year i started 10 college and i believe i met you as well um there are people within the sound of our voice listening to this podcast who i'm going to assume are 16 years old right so the uh experience of pc gaming for them if they do play on pc is 100 percent past the invention of steam which means they don't know how bad it was and like you know what let's expand that to 20 year olds because three year olds weren't installing high-end pc games right um it was astonishingly bad yeah it was get the game install it it installs
Starting point is 02:20:49 go to run you get a nonsensical error and it goes fix this and i go i don't know what that is yeah and it goes fix it though yeah you uh um io error just that's all it says press okay you don't know true suffering children until you're asked to install disc 18 of 25 for a load in the dark on floppy and disc 18 is missing big old box full of floppy disks you know my favorite one mm-hmm in 1996 i was playing eye of the beholder 2 on my personal computer and i was having a good time and it got to the second level of the dungeon as it often does it asked me for a specific word on a specific page of the manual oh yeah yeah but the manual was at my dad's ex-wife's house because my brother had taken the manual with him because he was playing it on his pc mm-hmm at his mom's house
Starting point is 02:22:04 and i called to ask him what it was and they had gone out for the evening so that was the end of that shit for me that day see for some folks metalgear solid one kojima's codec lockout system where you have to look at the back of the box to get the codec code to proceed in the game was the first encounter with that but that aged like shit by the way oh yeah in a world of digital the digital version of mgs one like it's a problem yeah like you can look it up but like like when he says back of the cd case it's not even actually clear what he means because you have gotten a cd in the game earlier yeah um that was even that stupid thing was not the beginning of that that is like this has been a bit for a while on old-ass pc games where they just that was
Starting point is 02:23:06 the means of copy protection you know there was a tsr game that i had the i can't remember the specific one i want to say it was men so brand or whatever that is it came with a goddamn code wheel oh yeah and it's like god damn it don't copy that i i bought it don't copy that floppy what are you doing and then you know what the solution was photocopy the manual sure yeah that'll do it i mean i i'll never go just pour one out i will always fucking remember os games back in the day and fucking and when i was growing up in chamity in laval the the super french they had uh oh man i've never heard that term but you're super right oh man the super french yeah oh there it is and we had we went out we went out to we had uh
Starting point is 02:24:16 super video schwa which was like for you go for your games and uh if you're lucky they had like a mortal combat one arcade cabinet for the first time in your life um that's crazy you're pulling the velcro buttons off of uh things like does that say street fighter 2010 what it does it does say that and you're holding the button and then you're like wait let me look at and you look at the back and you go you motherfuckers you almost got me and then you leave and then you go to the mall next door where they've got os and in os they let you rent pc games out and it was just like do you guys that do you know and they're like oh yeah we know yeah everyone rents it once i feel like that that happened for like eight months
Starting point is 02:25:10 i feel like that was the shortest like thing i've ever seen because i remember seeing pc games for rent and then i remember the feeling of where the pc games for rent go they were just here so this place kept it going for years oh my god are you serious four years this was the same place where i went and i played the 3do uh and i and i fucking got my my thumb blistered playing way of the warrior right i still i all that shit this one fucking joint that just they had everything and they threw it up on the wall and they like yeah i'm when i was like well into high school and we would like out of curiosity you'd be like oh shit you want to go swing back by the old mall and they absolutely had shit on the wall still like renting out like no
Starting point is 02:26:08 fuck's given at all and and i think like it was weird because there was a couple places where i think the way that like places like that and another there's another mom and pop shop in verdun that was around for a while um that the way they kind of got away with things was weird because like they'd rent but like they also sold so anything on the shelf was also for sale technically but you could just rent it if you wanted you know excuse me it was it was a strange strange thing and i didn't quite understand you know uh uh uh how this all was set up but it seems as if if someone were to walk in and be like hey what is going on here they're like well we sell video games sir what are those valkyries about those are for the purchasing of the game i remember
Starting point is 02:27:10 i would ride i used to live in a small town on the outskirts of the montreal and i would ride my bike to the micro play to rent five games on a saturday morning and then i would come back five hours later before they close and return all of them and this is rent five more pre videotron micro play that is this is yeah pre video this back when it was their own their own chain this was uh this was two thou no this was 99 and uh these were ps1 games and i would rent every new release in on saturday morning and i would go home and i would speed run them in my pc burner and then return and give them all back and the guy would just stare at me and go you're turning all these go yeah they're great
Starting point is 02:28:26 and he would just stare at me and go okay okay i remember all like i remember the look on his fucking face so clearly just like completely emotionless like mm-hmm so anyone who ran a video store like has dealt with vhs tapes fucking coming back in that exact manner oh yeah immediately you know it's a two hour 20 minute movie why are you here two hours and 30 minutes later basically you clearly didn't rewind it you asshole what a jerk yeah that was uh that was a time that was a time and what are you gonna bust a fucking 13 year
Starting point is 02:29:16 old kid for having a piracy ring go to hell when that time ended some places refused to let the end come so they just fought against it for the longest while and it worked anyway um i remember that guy giving me the dirtiest look pre post videotron post videotron micro play it was still the same guy he still owned his micro plays was just inside a videotron now and i it was the first time i had seen him in many years and it was the weekend after you and i went to that office in the point and he was like oh hey you used to come around a lot and i was like yeah and then i rented like 10 ps2 games including yakuza one which was the first time i ever played yakuza one and then i brought them back the next day and he just stared
Starting point is 02:30:18 at me like uh-huh and yakuza one's a good game y'all should play it no you shouldn't yakuza one's terrible but the series is good i was better at the time i have i have a lot of um very good and what i just saw the funniest thing somebody said i only found out that ps1 game discs were supposed to be black as an adult that's pretty funny that's really funny wow did you know that ps2 CDs are supposed to be blue and dreamcast discs are burned from the outside in that's crazy they're gd roms wow uh so i have had lots of important uh first time seeing shit memories associated with microplay and for that i am thankful but i also am super fucking just forever salted on uh the bullshit that has happened to there on many occasion uh microplay microplay
Starting point is 02:31:35 was the place that i handed over my copy of star fox and got a toony in a looney oh that was where it happened and i where i stared at it and just like felt felt the soul leave my body you know i had that moment um that was where i uh entered the no mercy contest where it was a cage match hardest difficulty versus cane i think and you had to get out in the fastest time and uh i fucking crushed it because for the longest while everyone was operating with the idea of like it was at first it was like a minute 35 then someone got it down to like a minute 31 and then my friend got it down to a minute 29 and then i came in and i got it done in like 59 seconds and the dude crushed it and the dude fucking came over and went you cheated it doesn't count and straight up
Starting point is 02:32:46 did not enter my my my score on the board and i'm like it's not my fucking fault you didn't come over here and see it what cheat could i have done what was there what was it what did i do and then just and he's like nope nope doesn't count and then i wasn't able to get that time again but that was the best fucking time and he never fucking took it you know same place same store where that happened fucking piece of shit um i've i've got my i've got a micro play pain story so in the second week of august 1997 and it is weird that i remember this so specifically but i was excited to rent a new game because uh school was coming back school would be back in a week or two and i had played and replayed ff seven a bunch of times because it had come
Starting point is 02:33:51 out that year and i got it on my birthday on april 22nd and i beat it uh june 10th around because i uh it was the day i finished elementary school i beat ff seven that night i was i was i was sick i was super stoked it was a good start to a summer and uh i was looking around and uh there was a new game on the shelf and i picked it up and the guy was like hey you like the the the the micro play guy i've been describing hey do you like ff seven like yeah ff seven is great i played it a lot it's like this by the same people about ff seven it's it's even better it's like the new final fantasy they just didn't call it that but it's basically final fantasy eight it's super good and so i rented the last game i could for the summer and i took saga frontier home
Starting point is 02:34:46 and let me tell you it is not just as good as ff seven it is not it is a bad game and i don't like it that game fucking sucks is that that's that's the story saga frontier bad have you ever played saga frontier i have not it has a cool logo it's real bad okay well uh stole 325 from child pat and ruined the last rental weekend of my summer of 97 uh that's not what i would consider stealing money um that's not that that's that's you know uh what i would consider an attempt i actually consider it larceny by false promise oh okay
Starting point is 02:35:46 my being obtained funds through dishonesty what about when you see a bad movie and walk out of it theft okay got it just wanted burglary well how about how about this how about uh you decide to check out that hot new immersive title shen mu which of course you rent but you don't just rent you rent all four discs yeah and uh take it home play it don't get anywhere near the end of disc one is what it is so come back you know whatever the day or two i think it was literally the next day whatever it was it was a very short period of time come back hand it back dude goes yeah disc two is not working and i'm like i only played disc one i literally did not touch disc two who was the last person before this because that doesn't
Starting point is 02:36:54 and he's like yeah uh well i don't know we're having an issue with it doesn't work so that's that's your damages that's your problem fuck you you know i gotta pay the damages on that and i'm like i literally did not touch the disc i only played disc one i you i can show you my save file there was no like it doesn't you know and it's like yeah no it doesn't matter that's damages you gotta fucking i'm like fuck off right and it's like yeah well you know um so uh i left and then i spoke to my friend about it and then uh i remember i i spoke to my friend about it and i remember like i i don't know if it was like right away or what but he had he basically was like you know what he's like okay he he basically was like disc two is replaceable you know we can figure
Starting point is 02:37:47 something out so then i was like okay go go back to the store and like hey so you want me to pay for the damages yeah okay how about this i'll pay i'll pay for the damages and you gives me discs one three and four and then i'll just take those and the damage was it's damaged whatever it's no good give me the rest of this this thing and then we're good right because it's it's damaged what's the problem now and dude's like no no that's not really how we do things here that's not you know and i'm like but it's this it's it's as it's it's if you're telling me that you just wanted to take me for take money from me for being for being damaged why can't i get the rest of this product you know i'll be fine with you those yeah i'll just buy the whole thing off you you break it you buy
Starting point is 02:38:38 it right done done done let me let me let me get the rest of it exactly and dude goes all right look tell you what give me 25 bucks we'll call it even and it's like oh you you're just a piece of shit you just want to take some kids money fuck you absolutely fuck you and that and that's that's the fucking thing that's that's the micro play that's you burn that store down i didn't have to because not long after fucking leaving that piece of shit they then you know folded and merged into videotron and and you know that asshole and his fucking like it's that anyway whatever it's like it's like so many great memories of like seeing devil may cry for the first time playing a bunch of crazy new releases
Starting point is 02:39:27 for the half an hour thing and whatnot but like that's one of those ones where it's like okay this is how you operate and thankfully right around that time just up the street um the card comic shop was pulling out some consoles and getting into the game as well because they were like yo we can get a couple systems up here and if kids are going to come play so the alternative was provided and the arcade was across the street fuck micro play you know you know what you know what my two favorite buying a thing and it's bullshit the emotions are ever and because they're the same story just different items at different stores uh one was uh picking up castlevania portrait of ruin day of release like at like 10 in the morning because i had classes that day i think so i
Starting point is 02:40:17 hopped over by the eb and i was like fuck it's sick castlevania portrait of ruin this is going to rule and then i fucking got i was getting sitting down to the wait for the metro and i popped the the cartridge in into my fucking uh thing i was like yeah sick and there was a fucking clear save on it on the new game on the new game that was wrapped it was plastic wrap uh yeah and i brought it back and i was like yo what the fuck i was like that that's your save file like bullshit it is that says a hundred percent or whatever the fuck it you know the equivalent was give me a new one it's like why because you guys played this in the back it's like it must have come like that i'm like are you fucking kidding me they ended up giving
Starting point is 02:41:17 me a new one trust me wow yeah yeah and but the only one the the the only one that tops that is when i got a razor version four which is a phone that i think is sick and i got it from the you remember the radio shack that was in the fucking uh atwater uh lex neon and it was like sick and then i popped it open and it was about to fucking put my sim card in there are a bunch of numbers programmed into it mm-hmm mm-hmm and i called one and they were like who is this i don't know who the fuck are you i just bought a new phone and your numbers in it hang up yeah and i bought i bought it brought the phone back to the guy i was like what the fuck are you people doing and that's when you give me a refund for this phone it's when you find out that they have the
Starting point is 02:42:08 ability to shrink wrap shit uh in the back because they can also reach in and pull out a download code and throw it in the trash for your new copy of things you know do you and then and then at the most at some point the policy just became every box is opened the seal is always broken as soon as it comes in and we put the disc back in the case and hand it to you and that's when i stopped shopping there insane because i was opening up new discs and and seeing that they were damaged and then i brought it back and said this is damaged he's like did you drop it outside i'm like i've been out of your sight for 20 seconds yeah yeah and like yeah you you stare at it back then all those years ago and you go why right what the fuck what's the point and it's to give them the
Starting point is 02:43:02 ability to find any promotion that hurts their brick and mortar such as a download code for something else and throw it in the garbage dated that a long time ago that was that predated that by years the real reason was like so they could play it early and then that's what led to the situation and that led to tons of but but no but but to restore policy to become oh yeah every copy gets opened there had to be something else it's not just so that the boys in the back and get a fucking taste of it like they're like the the most official the guys i knew it totally was that's and that's if that was like the employees doing whatever opening the box and doing their thing then sure but like the idea of like no every single copy gets placed in a case in front of you and
Starting point is 02:43:50 hand it back to you the only time i got a decent not a decent the only time i remember there being a reasoning behind it was was with the the fucking tomb raider thing or no no human revolution thing day six yeah um my my i think i think the most like the moment i came the closest to throw to throwing like what i guess i would describe as a walmart tantrum but i didn't but i felt it in my chest walmart flavored tantrum was when god i want to say i was buying i can't remember what it was i want to say call of duty modern warfare too but the timing could be wrong it could have been a different call of duty game and he opens up the the box and pulls a disc out of like the sheet the she thing that they have in the desk and i'm like no give me a
Starting point is 02:44:43 new copy he's like it is new i'm like i'm watching you or have an open box like i don't know if you've played it i don't know if anyone's touched it you guys have that was the same store that gave me the clear say like you guys fuck me he's like and he looks at me and he goes do you want me to seal it with the shrink wrap machine so that it it's so well that i'm like and i just i'd like i just stared at him like mouth of gates like at the level of condescension yeah like yeah like why are you treating me like a neanderthal what but no i want you to go back in fucking time and not open it and that that store policy shit at places like that is what led to i don't know if you guys have ever been like a best buy
Starting point is 02:45:36 when it comes in the fucking palette of nintendo games that is massively sealed with yellow tape right that says do not fucking open this shit i mean either like how many of those do someone need before eventually it's just like all right fuck it we're going to the canadian tire and walking all the way to the back and making a left and hitting their electronic section and we're buying our games from canadian tire now in between the fucking drills and the winter gear because like i fuck this the the fucking the eb games that are in question like i could not literally believe it because the eb games there was in the in the eaton center and if you wanted to walk literally 10 minutes there's a best buy there if it didn't exactly
Starting point is 02:46:19 exactly the same stuff it was a future shop at the time every time it was a future shop but yeah you would walk out of the metro and walk into the game stop or the eb games and go hey can i have one and they go to pull out the disc you fucking never mind and you would walk an extra five minutes that this buy and buy it there can i get a real fucking yeah and eventually just stop turning into the eb games at all for you guys would be game stop and it's like holy shit you guys just trashed it and it's like people think i'm insane for having like all digital libraries because of all that shit and it's like one physical copies are they rot anyway but and two the space problem for people buy lots of games but three is like oh my god i've had decades of
Starting point is 02:47:01 almost all of my worst retail experiences have been inside a games retailer and even when unbelievable and like the you know like the xbox 360 games and shit would they had like seals on the case specifically to be like yeah this is brand fucking new you know and they yeah it just it was abysmal but whatever man these these places you know it's somebody in the chat says that they had a distributor that sold nintendo switches with gift cards in them and their boss removed the gift cards and sold them separately which is that literally literally literally literally 100% unquestionably completely that's that's so that's the thing is like i i i bet you like every single person listening to this it's like you all have fond memories of the brick and mortar
Starting point is 02:47:52 game store that you used to go to but at some point they tried to fuck you and maybe they did it multiple times you know so hey i have so which is more infuriatingly everything that we've talked about right now so far or dude when is king of fighters 11 coming out i've i've i've legitimately never seen you anger in my life for a longer period of time yeah uh king of fighter uh owns uh next thursday says here uh next next thursday yep next thursday all right yeah that's funny because that's what she said last thursday and the one before that actually and and and you're not even like you roll your eyes when i approach the counter now and i my money is in the thick where is the game you you took my money
Starting point is 02:49:00 to get it you told me it would like how many you know and it's just like you get you see that like uh oh he's walking into the store phase like yeah yeah and the and the interaction is hey do you have this item uh no no and just and like like somewhere around time four or five where you're at the and like he knows and you know and you just walk up and he has to say hi can i help you and they're like yeah actually you can and you just you know you know and it's like what's what's it gonna be today you know it's like oh yep doesn't seem this i'm out thursday should i should i should i try next thursday fuck yeah uh anyways i had a really i had a really similar thing with that with for call of duty four where it came to our game stop or sorry ab games for whatever reason three
Starting point is 02:49:55 weeks late and i had class i went to school very nearby there so i had the time to just walk over and spend 10 minutes to just walk over and check hey is it in and he'd be like and at some point the dude said no i don't know stop asking and i'm like i paid for it yeah you took the money that says it took my money and it and it was the guy i'm like you took my money and you told me it would be here i'm not trying to be a problem just give me my money back like and the there was the there was a couple day period where other stores had it and they still didn't have it so like giving my fucking money back he was like god damn it yeah god damn it and the brick and i know a lot of you people who didn't have these experiences will go why did you even give them any money at all
Starting point is 02:50:50 and it was because there was a five to ten year period where if you did not pre-order anything that wasn't the biggest thing and even then they would straight up never give you a you weren't you weren't getting it pre-ordering pre-ordering now is a thing where people where you could go like yeah like don't get suckered in by shit or whatever once upon a time it was literally the only way to to get a copy of a thing you know and and if it was something that was like not super popular like odensphere for example they got two copies they got two copies in the store it was the ten pre-orders they got two so you had to have a pre-order and you had to be the first from there yes when the store came oh my god a million percent yep yep so just the the fucking
Starting point is 02:51:39 indignity of of of looking at you like what the fuck are you bothering me for and and the actual ultimate scam was that if multiple people i saw this happen i was so angry for the other guy but it what when multiple people came in simultaneously and there was not enough it went by how much money was already down on it hmm so since i had paid the whole thing in full up front i got to walk out with mine yeah the guy who was right behind me who came in at the same time didn't so like the fact that we beat both pre-order i don't know i've never gotten this verified by a second source but i had one person tell me that uh when the whole next thursday thing is a policy they were told whenever someone asks when something is coming out give them a
Starting point is 02:52:39 a return point to come back to the store so everything that we complain about is you know i mean you it is always so sad to me you could always tell who was actually scum and most people weren't they were just like their boss is like invisible over their shoulder going you're going to get fired if you don't do this bullshit um policy and management was always the real problem hmm if everyone had to learn that anytime anyone asks you for anything the answer is yeah uh it'll be here whenever come back try next week try next thursday try you know some period of time that'll get you to walk back in here then of course that everyone's going to have that shit experience but like you know and as someone who's buying shit that was not
Starting point is 02:53:29 necessarily the huge pre-ordered game of the day or whatever it was just a constant fucking like you're gonna look me dead in my eyes and just lie for as long as it takes no matter what you know anyway um i i saw the best statement in chat i think there's a guy named revie who sums up this whole thing which is digital marketplaces don't roll their eyes at you like people are like they cost more and you can't get a deal and maybe the store will break and it's like none of that compares to a human being rolling their eyes at me because i asked if they had it in stock and they should and they don't the thing that you've already paid for that is mind you yes yeah yeah a guy you know anyway just god bless you know my my boy king who just he
Starting point is 02:54:27 lived close enough by that i you know i was able to go see him and he had the fucking he had the the setup he had the burner and he was just like yeah we can figure out shenmu disc two no problem you know and and you just i got to i got to see the truth of that exchange with that option select in my pocket like i'll pay your stupid fee give me the rest of the game and like the the mask off moment of oh no oh no wait i'm trying to fucking take money out of your pocket not make a transaction here give me 25 and we'll fucking call it even hey and all this frustration builds into a situation where you can very easily personally justify it to yourself that there are 14 day no questions asked return policy unused games means that you can return your copy of zoe two and then use the
Starting point is 02:55:24 credit to buy tony hawks per three for a week and then return to the hospital skater three and buy zoe two because that's the one you want to keep and just run that fucking scam for six months until they catch on and fucking kill it anyone and you anyone who has the patience to play that game the credit the credit rental system of like trade up this get that always new never spend above a penny like god bless i don't have it in me i don't have the the fucking drive to you know round up all these physicals to get the one new thing but i mean when i've seen it work i've seen you know we have i have a friend that's like you know shop god pats walked out of the brick and mortar stores with a brand new ds that was all credit you know and i mean oh i'm not talking
Starting point is 02:56:17 about that i'm talking about the there was a period around 2005 where if you walked in well actually it was around so zone of the inner two i remember that vividly if you walked in and bought a used game because used games were open instead of sealed they would take a full refund within 14 days for any reason so you would buy it and you would beat it and you would refund it and you would buy a different new used game and then you would buy it and i ran that scam to the point where i was at uh i was at uh uh persa you remember keith i was at keith's house and he had a copy so to the enders two and he's like check this out and he she pulled the manual out and there were five of my receipts behind it yeah and honestly that's what i did with the receipt i would put it
Starting point is 02:57:16 behind the manual and they didn't care because they were making 95 percent literally 95 percent that's what the report said of their money on reselling of previous previously used games that they already sold exactly so you doing that with the the exchange system just meant nothing it was a drop in the ocean of the five mad world price stickers i have on the mad world box stacked underneath each other you know i remember why i used zone of the enders two is because it cost 92 dollars the value no matter no matter what i uh wanted to buy with it it was always going to cover it it was going to cover it okay okay yeah it was almost kind of like money laundering because i'd bring back a game and a gift card so it didn't look like i was doing it and you wait
Starting point is 02:58:07 till the guy who didn't do your transaction last week moves to over and like oh man and you go to the different game spot the one in angry now so yeah that fuck that place that's what it was like installing games before steam yeah yeah that's what it was like so you see why this shit's popular now so uh a couple of things got dropped in particular um nintendo had a pretty hot week with their announcements dropped a couple of uh very important things looks like they're gonna have one hell of a quarter four so october eighth metroid dread finally finally exists and i really appreciate how they went it's coming out real soon yes it's been dead for 10 years
Starting point is 02:59:13 more and it's it's almost be here dread is one of those ones where again we're so far from the point of me even making the jokes back in the day that like it's now just a distant like i can't believe someone even remembered me bringing it up to be perfectly honest but that was a fucking head explosion what they're doing it moment um and i'm not just like we're making a new metroid but we're actually going back to that idea and and using it again uh is is it's it's great because i know that to you these are the lords boys but samus returns was good and i was very happy with that game and to so so them taking over here is totally fine very excited for that i feel i i feel like i should probably explain
Starting point is 03:00:14 that a little bit more because people some folks felt like i was trying to rain on their parade and i really wasn't it's like mercury steam made a bunch of shitty castlevania games like a bunch of them those two like lords of shadow two is like atrocious and mirror fate is pretty bad um so and and since i'm not a big metroid fan outside of prime i didn't play samus returns so my initial reaction was oh god yeah oh no and then i hear they made a good one but it was a remake and i'm like i mean if look if and if naughty dog announced their next fighting game oh yeah i wouldn't be terribly excited for the return of way of the warrior you know like this is this is what we're dealing with it's a yes it's i get it but as someone who
Starting point is 03:01:13 didn't you hold that thought i got a i got a sleeping woman and a crying dog that's got to go out all right brb uh excuse me yes so uh i was saying that it's weird because based on interests they're one count they're a come they're one mercury steam is one company to you and a completely different company to me just well the other thing is like the way that my brain put it together was that like castlevania and metroid share so much dna yes but in an execution castlevania seems a bit like i think the first one was involved with kojima right and then the very he was a producer or something which but ultimately konami just let them do their thing whereas nintendo's projects are way more well we all remember the story of he's upset he's very upset
Starting point is 03:02:21 shiggy screaming down uh retro studios with metroid prime so they're really really really more uh hands on about it and if that's how metroid um samus returns was developed i mean i i don't know but they're probably not going to be as tight as that on castlevania and maybe that affected the results i don't know spitball and random shit but well it's good if people people told me that uh samus returns was a remake but it was mostly a new game and that it was excellent well if that's the case then it looks like they found their specific calling and uh dredel probably there's gotta be there's gotta be other companies out there that have a catalog where they do two different genres and one genre they're terrible at but the other one they crush double helix made
Starting point is 03:03:19 silent hill homecoming any others that's the one that always always hits my brain not down homecoming it's like no they no team vatra made downpour okay i don't know if they made anything else um like yeah yeah you need like it me i'd need it to be more than one you know um who made the green lantern movie game somebody just yelled that out and i do remember that that actually oh that actually went somewhere that somebody made that i would guess brash but probably not some fucking rented quick quick prize the man hunters was by double helix so there you go oh wow okay okay sometimes you take the ip game and you get a paycheck uh guns for higher as platinum says and sometimes you make the other thing you care about um yeah no it's just it's it's
Starting point is 03:04:26 a slice right down the middle there uh dot emu is in the middle of their redemption arc this is this is oh boy but they've come a long way from just guaranteed trash but admittedly dot emu was just it was whatever they were putting out was not great into now most of it is pretty solid so it was it wasn't even it wasn't a dual uh faced weird you know like two realities for two audiences kind of thing which is kind of what i'm looking for you know yeah uh well anyway dread is um it's it's not only is it back but they actually manage to capitalize on uh the like the original reason that the game exists the first version of the game was going to exist is because in in metro infusion um the the s a x was like a cool part of that game where it was like involved in certain
Starting point is 03:05:27 segments where it's like hunting samus type of thing and uh yeah they wanted to make a game that is all about that vibe instead of just a couple of scripted moments you know the whole like you're constantly being hunted thing and um you know i mean i i guess like resident evil two would be a good uh indicator of that type of system if anyone was taken a look but they didn't so at the time this was going to be a novel concept for the metroid formula and then they couldn't get the technology to really make it work um and apparently make it work meant they couldn't they it didn't feel threatening uh in a 2d on a 2d plane or in or with the limitations they had at the time and i could see and they said they didn't want it to be a horror game they still wanted
Starting point is 03:06:23 it to be sci-fi but they wanted it to you know give you a sense of fear a sense of dread like and that was that sense that that was absolutely like um clear when you play fusion and you look at some of the things they do in that some of the music cues some of the ways they have the the the steps of the s a x like loudly kind of haunting coming down a hallway they want to go with that space horror like at least flavor and the nightmare the the nightmare boss is another example of like oh this weird thing that you that you have to fight for a while when it finally cracks open you see some ghoulish organic goop inside of its its guts you know um they kind of wanted to turn metroid uh into a little more a little more alien right a little more of the
Starting point is 03:07:13 where the source material is inspired by so dread with the idea of samus being hunted uh yep now they're just going to do it in this form and they're keeping the the ideas around of like the emmies that are that are going to track you down um and from from taking a look at it it looks like you also have the next version of the suit which i was always wondering because like canonically fusion ends and she's stuck in the fusion suit or at the very least she stuck with a bio organic um version of her her uh her suit and that she can't really take off and it seems like yeah they're kind of going for a hybrid now where she has a various suit but it has trimmings of the the fusion suit that are going to be like somewhat organic in nature on top of the
Starting point is 03:08:00 tech probably the the most interesting thing that i saw was that the metroid series is about somebody using technology to take out bio organic freaks that like disastrous parasites and alien species yada yada and in fusion the sax takes your shit and you get the fusion suit which is nearly entirely bio organic and so then it makes sense that in dread samus is the organic thing three freak and the clean robots are coming to exterminate you yeah so it makes sense that the the enemy force would be hyper clean lab sterile like pearlescent sterile robots yeah yeah and uh you get to touch the mini mother brains to get a short burst of omega beam which is a nice little touch there too the the the thing the the final shot you get um so uh yeah man i mean fuck it they
Starting point is 03:09:08 they they that they dropped the title and before the title dropped they put metroid five on it it's like the the words are there you know so couldn't be more overt well that's that's what i always appreciated the balls on like same thing for fusion when you boot up fusion for the first time it says metroid four and then metroid fusion so it's like no no messing around here no side titles no spin-offs no guidance this is the next game in the series you know uh i like that i like the the you know where this is the number we're not fucking around yeah um looks super cool looks great can't wait and i can't wait to see what um yeah like the ultimately like playing through uh samus returns is great but playing through it on full screen on on a proper you know
Starting point is 03:10:06 television with with controls and everything is is what i've been waiting for you know because there are no way to do so uh with samus returns other than illicit methodology samus in side scrolling format has been a portable locked uh uh uh thing for decades now samus console has been first person only so i'm very happy for the return to side scrolling on a television you know um and fusion's great zero mission's great i have nothing to complain there but it just the format was handheld only you know i should really give super metroid another shot it'll only take you an hour not me uh i got lost the last time i played super metroid like super fucking lost uh so that's metroid dread uh on october eighth then next month later november 12
Starting point is 03:11:17 smt 5 we finally got footage of it we finally got like eyes on you know it's it's it's wild that we went from like are we sure this game even exists to it's out this year yeah and i remember the the discussion at the time was are they going to just recycle the existing demon models and yes it looks like they are yeah they are they made those new persona and smt demons once and for all and those are going to carry them through until we hit another generation but for now they're all done and done i think there's a really i think there's a really cool possibility with this game because in the in the you know opening crawl they say oh man there's a huge battle between uh demons and and angels here 18 years ago and that's why it's like a desert
Starting point is 03:12:18 tokyo that's all destroyed do you remember what happened 18 years ago woolly wait how this is at 18 years from what now do you remember what happened 18 years ago uh what nocturne came out no shit well yeah interesting 2003 well the visual cues on the main character are certainly very close the way the protagonist is running around with the like tech sigils on their body is not that far from demi fiend in texture yeah the only difference is everyone wants to have sex with this one well i mean this one's a tight suit but demi fiend was practically naked yeah well anyway you got um pixie's pixie jack frost is jack frost but if they're gonna keep their whole that's right ho if they're if they're gonna use those uh use those things for what they use the the
Starting point is 03:13:32 assets for what they are i just want to like they're when they bring in shit that looks like um um uh god damn it minotaur that's that like the original monsters and demons and designs that we fucking get out of these things like i i just i'm i'm way on board cannot wait uh also the uh there's a glimpse i didn't see so i didn't look at um all of the treehouse footage but i did see like that um there's like the god there's the main character like human form and then there's the person you merge with who i hope is not like just like gone for the whole time because they merge with you i hope that that cool tall person is around in that in that state person that i think might actually be demi fiend you think so it's possible that that'd be interesting
Starting point is 03:14:34 hmm anyway that that would be cool um what else was there oh there's that there's the trailer itself which did you like the trailer itself is just one of those things where it's like man can we just not have the fake excited lady talking over this the the american versus japanese trailers for this game are wild so i i understand i understand completely that they're like this is a super this is a weird thing that has three japanese names in it that might not make any sense to a random passerby or someone who was not around for when four came out or so i understand they have sm t's been around for a long time but it's not final fantasy or dragon quest no no and furthermore it's called shin megami tense it's not called something not
Starting point is 03:15:33 japanese so it's there is a wall that they have to get through for a random curious kid running through a walmart that looks at it and and wants to know if he should get this game or not so i understand that they have to market it in a way that explains the concept of the demons and the negotiation and the all the little things that are cool in the press turn system yadda yadda yadda but it just it was so fucking cheese dick and i all i wanted was like you know just cool the japanese trailer in english yeah just cool smt visuals you know yeah anyway all right i i have to say the the long history of the smt series has created uh my favorite like i don't want to call it like model reuse uh uh joke in that well let's say you're playing persona and persona uses
Starting point is 03:16:39 the same demons by and large right and like you remember like mo shivu or lian shide or you know apsaras right there's nice standard demon color right but yeah kukule yeah he's great now do you remember cert yes yeah i remember getting certain near the end of uh one of them persona games and then in a different persona game he was like earlier on this is the big of the world at the end of the smt five trailer cert is like a hundred fucking feet tall and ices like a thousand angels in one flame swipe and it has this weird moment of like the the the same enemies are never the same level of importance or context yeah yeah yeah like like fairy is fairy right like yeah whatever it's okay right but uh you take oh god which one
Starting point is 03:17:42 was it uh i forget which one it is but there there's a couple that are just like it's a boss in nocturne and it's like oh shit and then in later games it's like oh yeah you get them like level 25 like the one that's the the elephant demon i forget what what its name is oh uh yes yes but i i know what you mean exactly yeah yeah it's uh grima grima laka is that it the big elephant grima helaka yeah that one like that's just like ah you get a level 30 35 but in nocturne it's got a whole cutscene for it and it's like here comes the fucking ba oh my god i mean but that's the that's what it makes that's what it makes sense you know because i like coming late to the party reverse learning about the importance of matador
Starting point is 03:18:42 you know when it was like oh that was first introduced to me is just like it's a random demon that you can get see if you can get the refund for the game or or uh um i remember when i was doing like you're just doing your demon fusion seeing what pops up and then suddenly fucking satan shows up yeah you know or lucifer or just any of these ones where you're just like or like set he's like that's probably really important that's a high level thing that's probably really significant in a game i haven't played yet you know but here it is just oh yeah you tripped across it there it is enjoy like i'm waiting for smt five to have like a super sick boss fight with a huge music swell against neko mata oh my god um uh what's the um the fucking
Starting point is 03:19:42 the the the weird like half faces half faces uh no no no no not half faces it's the yin and yang um that have like a face on them oh irma tama yeah yeah yeah there you go exactly yeah i'm you know what i bet you anything where you're just kind of like this has to face off against a giant penis in a chariot uh are they is there a game they're a boss fight in i bet there is yo this is nintendo exclusive is marah gonna be in it yes will they even they'll cover marah's uh uh hood with a mario hat okay no what if marah's in it and it's the same shape and design but it's draped in cloth so it's just an ominous large shape that might even be scarier might even be scarier um
Starting point is 03:21:00 anyway said no it won't be a problem because smt four and smt four apocalypse had marah and they were also into no exclusive you know cert was on my party for a fucking while inferno was amazing and i just like i'm like yeah you're you're my fire boy you stick around that was good shit uh yeah it's good trailer trailer you know was was a little a little cringy on the nintendo fucking commentary but ultimately that looks like some smt that looks like a uh what i believe the description was um it is a new hell for what tokyo is now or whatever and um yeah yeah let's see where it go it's it's really interesting because the smt the smt games are like the same plot over and over like order chaos and order chaos new show yeah and they fucked up the tokyo real
Starting point is 03:21:58 bad um but every time it's it's it's fascinating i gotta play apocalypse apocalypse is like the secret smt five yeah i didn't i didn't i didn't uh i didn't know apparently it's great four was great so yeah i thought yeah four four fucking ruled oh man i should i should play apocalypse well um but how how could i possibly well that's we do know that we're gonna be staring at like a mighty main for for a lot of this game those locks are quite glorious uh it's like i'm looking at distracting right now it feels like the hair is taking up 30 percent of the performance budget compared to everything else on screen it's it's like it's like this the scarf in shinobi it's just you're gonna stare at this that's the whole thing it's what we're doing enjoy the beautiful
Starting point is 03:23:09 detailed it's so detailed it's the most pronounced thing on camera at all times easy yeah like it has like i'm looking at it right now it's got like six different points of articulation like it's nuts so uh that is cool i i'm hoping that we will see a uh a couple of characters because because like it looks like a main character with the again with like a gantt style body suit with the the power up like nocturne textures and things and i'm kind of it'd be cool to see a couple of other characters that are like color schemes as well as this is the blue person you know i assume you will they're just not going to be on the team then in december on the third advanced wars one plus two reboot camp which is
Starting point is 03:24:17 fucking cool and completely unexpected as well advanced wars are great uh those are some good fast games i didn't really care about the stuff that came out after those two games so i am like yeah let's go back to that and just get really nice just get nice animation and the prettier fucking you know overall experience way on board super happy i don't care about advanced wars but advanced wars seems really cool and it's been real dead for a while so i'm glad the people who do like advanced wars get advanced wars game advanced wars was multiple lunch times in high school um passing the gameboy around and talking shit in between passing the gameboy around and as an early review one said it's the one some of the most fun you'll ever have not playing a game
Starting point is 03:25:22 you know like something specifically about doing my turn and then giving it to you and then seeing what the fuck you're up to or just you you know talking shit or whatever and then passing it back was just that that that to me is is just like a really fucking fun memory i wish i loved advanced wars i just don't part of the one piece of the formula just breaks for me which is creating new units i want like a team of units i don't like creating new ones because then i just don't because i i could save i could say what if i saved the units for later then play fire emblem you know i i played so much three houses and never got anywhere i kept restarting it weird why
Starting point is 03:26:13 because i wasn't min maxing my characters properly and the resources to do so are actually really complex well that's a shame anyway advanced wars is great and then i can't believe they put four shuttles in a fighting game that's a lot forward star down down forward punch where the fuck is the star button a new input to scare smash players yeah that's that's good that's good yeah star button i am super confused it took this long for kuzia or hey hachi to get into the game well i think it's because pacman turned turned everyone off the scent pacman came in as the namco representative and then everyone went well
Starting point is 03:27:22 namco's already got pacman in there and then you kind of stopped thinking about the other namco you know because if you were to get like uh clonoa or something it'd be like well that fits but i thought clonoa fits yeah but it would have been like but i get but i but pacman's pacman and that that's the that's the rep you know um i think it's it so here's the thing even though kuzia is my least favorite mishima i think it's nice that he got picked shit shit fuck i didn't even shit it's nice that he got picked he's my least favorite of all god how many are there it's rough jinn it's there's jimpachi hey hachi
Starting point is 03:28:20 kuzia jinn jinn lars uh ask her if you want to get kuz kuz amazin no no no no all right all right kuzumi kazumi yeah yeah he like his mom he's my least he's my least favorite his mom showed up at the buzzer and she was better at the buzzer shot clock goes off she steps in and she's got a tiger and you're like oh you rule you know yeah he's my least favorite of his families but he is the main character this is his series he's the guy tecann is about kazia stop looking at my family look at me i'm the one who steps on the logo and does the punch no but your son though
Starting point is 03:29:24 but your dad though but your mom though all three versions of your son i like better than you like you know and then and then your fucking like your deceased girl is more is better than you and then your niece on your on your on the opposite side is better than you and you're just like oh man your ex is better than you can't get a break but it's fine i'm happy for him i'm happy for him yeah good for him and he looks good in a purple suit it looks good you know he's got devil powers that makes sense yeah just one of the one of the least respected characters in his own franchise you know yeah though it is pretty great to show him like throwing a bunch of smashed characters to their fucking deaths i would throw that's pretty good i would i
Starting point is 03:30:32 would throw akira further under the bus but they never really well anyway oh yeah akira like he was like didn't they stop using him on the cover after our showdown has him on the on the on the digital cover okay okay i thought maybe i was thinking of like four or so but well anyway yeah it's it's kazuya is just like completely sidelined by the entire rest of the cast in a lot of ways in terms of just prominence you know but he should come in as the representative but did did did you feel that like that little like hey it's not heihachi hey you know that little just that oh but he's in the background okay you know if he has his voice actor hadn't have passed away it would have been heihachi oh you think it's because uh otsuka
Starting point is 03:31:31 absolutely a hundred percent well he's in it uh he gets to toss everyone off Kirby fucking sneaks on back that's good shit of course he does um i'm looking at drop Kirby off things it's silly what's awesome is there's already an existing sound bite of Kirby going oh really so they can they can just use that good stuff this is great and yes when you hit a a a a a a 10 times it seems like he does his 10 string or maybe it's his side b i don't know that's cool um i think as well uh oh and and just the star input just to because i mean yes that
Starting point is 03:32:26 that is a baffling thing to see it it means neutral it means let means neutral let the stick return to neutral let go of the stick fucker yeah let go Deccan's weird yeah it but you know it deserves a spot i i feel it someone did i agree someone did a comparison of like all last season in this one and they want they went like um i can't do it off the top of my head but they compared the releases of everything and then like mirrored how they dropped and that means that the next and last character is going to be rent disappointing sword fighter is according to the math on on the uh the way the way that they all got dropped here i'm trying
Starting point is 03:33:19 to find the uh okay so we had joker hero banjo terry bileth right joker hero banjo terry bileth and then we got uh men man steven alex sephiroth pyromethra casia yeah it's yeah that kind of trucks so come on swordman who could it be actually no pyromethra and sephiroth are both both swordmans right so but yeah i mean anyway maybe it'll be a dumb mascot character from shitty franchise like another banjo for those of you listening to the audio version i just have a big smile on my face right now uh let's go with um
Starting point is 03:34:34 mundus from dmc devil may cross oh that would be uh that'd be not good it's just got to acknowledge it i gotta get him in there uh so we got that dropping and then um just you know more of just a little ps a but seems like a pretty pretty solid deal if you're wanted to catch up on any dang and rompo they got a four pack with a new board game in it
Starting point is 03:35:11 dang and rompa decadence with uh one two and three so that's cool yes it's got a weird beach rpg in it yeah with crossing over of all the characters so i saw i have people that are fans of dang and rompa on my on my twitter people yeah people um they're they there's they still count as human come on um but the one thing that i saw from them is the worry that they would have to buy that entire collection just to get that beach rpg sounds like that's gonna be the case yeah that's what i was that sucks that's what i was uh considering as well though they did i don't believe not drop a price on it yet it's the price is tbd so we don't know what that's gonna be they are selling them separately oh that's nice then oh okay well there you go autocorrect
Starting point is 03:36:16 should i get into dog gone at grandpa um you you you every time i've seen it with my eyes i go this seems like the worst yeah you'd hate it like i think you'd hate it um and i think the the good parts that i like wouldn't be enough payoff for you to dig it because because my the long-standing thing is i love ace attorney games yes and you and and you like zero escape yeah and and i tell that i say that and then people go oh you should try dang and rompa yeah and then i look at dang and rompa with my eyes yeah and i go why does this look so stupid that's the thing is that like so so uh uh uh people are i'm seeing some folks going like why would why would he hate it um because zero escape
Starting point is 03:37:14 and phoenix ride and all these other things we can compare it to uh take themselves a bit more seriously with their premise and cast of characters and dang and rompa goes hard into the hyper stylized goofy ass nonsense bullshit there was a oh in that hard pronunciation yeah um it is absolutely like it is it is take take those things that we just described but like grab a syringe full of camp and inject it with it well because my current experience with dang and rompa was like very negative and um i loaded it up and dang and rompa won like i decided i wanted to give it a shot and like literally the first line of dialogue is i'm going to a high school where everyone there is the best at something the best model or the best baseball player or the best and i'm like
Starting point is 03:38:16 what is this stupid anime crap oh it's the most anime thing in the world it is it is hyper distilled like we're yes we're doing the most everything is uh is like anime tropes and anime uh um cliches and and it like it's full of those things and it's all and it and it's all over the place but i still enjoy it i still think it's a really fun series uh overall if but it's like you just have to more or less be willing to to take that part in like and some of it some of it i think part where i talk to like a character and they're like i'm the ultimate model and i'm like i hate you die mm-hmm i can't wait for people to start murdering each other because then i'll be fucking stoked um it'll be dead every character there's no one is uh below a nine in personality
Starting point is 03:39:16 everyone's traits are dialed up to nine minimum with like whatever they're about you know if there's an otaku it's to the it's to the extremes if there's a princess it's to the extremes you know everything is just there's just no ground for like any kind of subtlety except even and well except but not except because even when the main characters are like meant to be normal they're aggressively normal so like you know so it's like it's it's an it's a fun series to get through if you're into that stylized kind of take on things but for what you like i think you'd probably hate it so the answer to your question is um you know maybe but probably not playing uh uh 999 and you remember that when they come down the stairs
Starting point is 03:40:11 you see the whole crew right for the first time and like to me lotus like stood way out open room right mm-hmm like lotus looks ridiculous and i'm like oh no this isn't gonna be a bunch of bullshit and then she started talking to me about like fucking 40 year old psychiatry studies about esp and shit and i'm like oh okay that's not what i thought this character was gonna be cool yeah in this case it's like uh it's just it's a very it's a very exact exaggerated like almost like yeah like slapstick and old school approach to things like you know how like some anime would have like um like the humans and then the blobs the blobs that were just like blobs yeah yeah you know or or even like think of like uh how going back as far as
Starting point is 03:41:09 Gundam right think of um uh 79 how you had the regular human beings and then you had the children who were just from another universe yeah they existed from a completely different world and show and they functioned as like a trio of goofballs that would just like like get i don't get stuck in water drains and slide under doors because i i remember watching uh Gundam original and just sitting there and be like man this is so great and then like harrow would come onto the screen and i would be like irrationally upset and be like i fucking hate that stupid little robot kill it i hope it dies and then when i was watching double zeta i almost shit when that they pulled that shit out of the garbage and turned it back on it was a fucking pissed off
Starting point is 03:42:04 so that thing so anyway just to say that like everyone in danganronpa is like those kids they're all just like squashy and stretchy extreme versions of characters and whatever they are i mean like there's a there's a martial artist in the first game and like she's not just a martial artist like tough girl she's a fist of the north star character wearing a sailor uh uh uh fuku right and like it's just the most extreme nonsense ever and you just have to basically be like you're either down for that or not you know it does not at all do the thing of like taking itself seriously i also have like a very bizarre second hand experience with the i'm gonna use big air quotes world of danganronpa which included just listening to you just swear and be miserable as you were going through
Starting point is 03:43:07 ultra despair and just be like uh yeah like that whole time and i've seen i've seen um twitter discussion about how uh apparently i've i've poisoned the well on on that game to people that are like no this game is actually fine they were just idiots playing it but i i stand by me if that was the case no one could ever play a video game ever yeah after we had gotten done with it but it did but i stand by i stand by like that was a bad lp that of a bad game i i stand by that you know both things can be true um this right here this right here is this is the tough girl the tough karate girl she is a fist of the north star character in a sailor fuku oh you got a little figurine of it she's the best she's the coolest fucking thing ever i love her she's great um
Starting point is 03:44:14 and and like it's one of those things where it's just like you it's they play this like the fact that they design this character in this ridiculous over the top way is meant to be taken as this like kind of like shocking garish thing and i'm like no that's unironically awesome idiots don't make fun of that that's great literally just do that that's totally cool um you know and there's a there's a there's a lot of others but there's there's moments like that where i'm just like yeah you're going for something here but i i it's not really working and i think like while i can roll my eyes at those moments where it doesn't land you would fucking die in those moments where it doesn't land you know um and because you're also getting introduced to a tournament arc
Starting point is 03:45:06 amount of characters at the same time constantly um but you're not gonna necessarily get uh and even you're not you're not gonna get as much of them as you particularly would want you would want to be able to be like hey i want to go like you can go hang out with them as you as you would but the story is gonna have to progress the way it does and you're just yeah i could see you getting very very very very upset at it at the way things play out so like probably dodge like i'd like to point out that like phoenix rite is like filled with a bunch of fucking stupid bullshit like phoenix rite has tons of i mean there's canonic there's fucking ghosts in phoenix rite and you you fucking you cross examine a parrot yeah like it's a big deal like there's a lot
Starting point is 03:45:56 of stupid shit and everything's like zany but like i feel like it's just not like i don't i feel like regardless of its level of zaniness the phoenix rite series can exist in a world whereas everything i saw of dangin rampa was like oh this the world is doesn't exist outside of this room the leaps like the leaps the game asks you to accept as it goes on in each one as the universe gets established like the craziness of that roster you're looking at is the shortest gap possible everything after that gets further and further and further in terms of what you have to more or less buy into and i say all this as someone who likes the games i say this affectionately you know um i'm just thinking about it from your point of view on it and that's that's where
Starting point is 03:46:56 i get to yeah but then again i mean uh elie played right like elie did you see elie play it i did not i i did not i heard that is a he's like sitting there in a in a in an interrogation like spamming a bunch of also yeah that was my other experience with deg and robin too i watched elie play it for about half hour as he's sitting in a thing going uh this is the answer why won't it work and just clicking through a bunch of statements that are flashing across the screen as a bunch of characters make a bunch of conclusions that they don't know and he's like i don't understand this this seems like shit and i'm like this seems like shit this seems like crap i think uh the cases i think the cases are fun uh when they provide you with
Starting point is 03:48:02 like uh depending on how much they give you if you have too much info and you go in and you're like this is i just have to take like half an hour to get through something that i just want to shout the answer at it's gonna get frustrating phoenix right has that problem like bad yeah the games get better at it as it goes on um so that the the core of it is that the games start to do a thing where uh new information gets surfaced at the critical moment so that you can make new conclusions yes but some cases in phoenix right you get totally enough information and you're like it's this is what happened and the characters are way behind you so there's there are that this series has that problem too there are cases where you're you're way ahead
Starting point is 03:48:52 of the entire game and you have to go through a series of mini games to get the point across um but it gets better with them as well and there are cases that uh become more obfuscated but still interesting as again new facts drop in the trial as it's going on and things like that you know so yeah let me uh let me put something to you because i'm just curious maybe you have like an offhand genius answer on this because like i look at phoenix right and i look at 999 and i look at vlr and i haven't played um uh the third uh last escape game time delivered zero time delivered yeah i haven't played that one but i i played a little bit of isomium uh not that much but enough to have like a ai waifu that lives in your eyeball that goes to a vr realm right
Starting point is 03:49:42 and none of that bothered me like none of it like didn't bother me at all like i'm like okay yeah sure but then when dang and rampa starts and talk starts talking about the ultimate baseball player with like a static shot of like a regular building like i want to fucking throw up like what is happening that is causing this intense reaction like i can't even quite place it anime tropiness perhaps i don't know uh if did you watch any of akudama drive no but oh i did yeah i didn't watch episodes i watched um like you know some clips on on twitter would show up with a bunch of fight scenes okay and i would i would then look up what that scene was on youtube to get the full thing because it's very well animated because cast wise it's
Starting point is 03:50:32 comparable because i mean it's the same people right but it's like it's comparable in the sense that it's like really exaggerated uh um personalities and people and archetypes though less so than dang and rampa dang and rampa is way more dialed up i mean the blood is pink right you know uh i i just i i watched the bits of akudama and i watched maybe i don't know a total of an hour across various little bits and pieces okay and i the one thing i think i talked about on the podcast with you that i just kept getting like upset is they are using the word akudama like in every sentence yeah and i can't find out what it means yeah uh like what is it i looked i looked for it what is it old hunter x hunter or hunter hunter excuse me like yeah that that whole
Starting point is 03:51:31 vibe yeah it's but that but that flavor of characters is like the closest thing um that you know i can i can that i think you might have seen that that would kind of like explain it in a way but it really is just like you know you either look at that that cast and you're like all right let's see what's charming about this or not um or you just bounce off of it immediately and uh that's that's kind of how i think it's gonna go and i think and especially too as i'm like i'm thinking about some of the um it has 13 sentinel moments right it has moments like that um where yeah because that's the tropia shit in the universe i adored that right because that's still it but it was tropey but the characters were still like normal people
Starting point is 03:52:29 you know they weren't like they were those are those are still normal people with personalities as opposed to mascots for different things yeah i just i don't you know wish i want to dive super deep into this because like i'm thinking of like a phoenix right character that i forget his name but he's he looks like a lion he's got a mane of hair yeah from i'll be have named leo main yes yes shit from the front of the first case yeah his animations when he gets mad or like a fucking he looks like a cat angry cat tiger fucking asshole and i'm like yeah okay fine no was yeah sure whatever but like no this this is no no like danganronpa is like you when you get um fucking uh when you get like little scissors mascot and cool spot and um
Starting point is 03:53:27 erin from e-surance and you put them all in the same room you know and and teddy rucks bin and then they all have to solve a murder mystery because again they're just they're just they're mascots from different worlds like they just don't oh man you just accidentally created like a super way better concept for a game chest of cheetahs in there a bunch of cereal and restaurant mask and sam a murder yeah it but that's the energy that's the energy you know it really is that like everyone is like oh this is the best whatever in the world you know and then the thing they are is like the entirety of their personality and then there's a second layer underneath it when you get to know them but either way it's played up in the most like it to 11 or 12 13 like there's
Starting point is 03:54:25 no subtlety whatsoever you know but if you're down with all that it's fun it's kind of goofy it's it's just give it another shot so that i can get far enough into it to hate it properly it does uh you know you have you have uh uh the characters that are like yeah you're a weirdo but i don't i like talking to this person visual novel style you know and uh you solve the cases and you just it ends it ends up being it ends up being something where like yeah you have like you have mysteries that you want to know more about that drive you forward kind of thing oh and um you have to get past the fact that like uh evil doraemon is the villain is the villain i i was i was somewhat able to get past that uh in vlr because it's actually really similar uh under the assumption
Starting point is 03:55:29 that this is just a a saw mask for a actual person if okay i don't know if this is even a spoiler but monokuma isn't actually a real magic bear is he it depends oh come on come on for the for the most part it is you're describing a like yes it is a it is a a murder um avatar right okay yes it it is a it is a murder avatar for the most part all right um okay well a lot of good visual novels i just everybody speaks so highly of it and it's just like it's it bounced off me so hard that it like i got yeah but how many how many things have we discussed today that have been spoken highly of that you bounced off of we just barely got finished talking about metroid in three houses yeah but i can understand those and i actually really like
Starting point is 03:56:31 three houses three houses three the fire on them game okay well you know um if you're gonna know this is what led me to play league of legends okay but like the whole like the answer if should i play it is a different question from will i like it right yeah if you have curiosity that's different that's a different question that's right yeah you're right you're super right um anyway that's going down but to swerve back a little bit to kazoo yeah oh oh yeah that's oh so um god bless but we talk you know harada's bar has been a a really fun thing for the fgc because it's it's you know a new show and on on youtube and podcast where harada's talking real plainly about stuff that otherwise is you know in the dark we never get to find out
Starting point is 03:57:33 what what uh some of these behind the scenes stories are we last week talked about the or rather the week before talked about the tech in his three netcode controversy and uh this time around we got another update from another new episode so i perhaps there'll be something to talk about with every episode uh who knows this time around he mentioned tech n cross street fighter and uh the videos that go up on the channel are subtitled and uh in english this uh he basically says uh we were working really hard on that uh wished we could show off models and such but it got to about 30 complete before the project died so um i read that and i'm like all right first off i remember having the discussions how many
Starting point is 03:58:28 episodes way back when where 10 years ago you were like woolly this is a dead game you you need to stop believing this is dead and i was like they didn't say it's dead but you know maybe we'll see it we'll see maybe we'll see it that's a that's a fair that's a fair uh condensation of of that discussion yeah and then uh this was the the this is what came out of that episode and it was like okay well there you go um then after the report came out about this uh a follow-up story was released uh where harada said okay sorry that was another translation problem it was a subtitle problem again the word used for dead was actually uh shelved or put in storage so he doesn't mean to say that the project is cancelled he means to say that it is on hold
Starting point is 03:59:29 until they can find a way to move forward with it and then elaborating a bit more he explains the reason why people haven't seen more of it in between now and then is because they used one they're using licensed characters that are not there so everything has to obviously go through capcom but also um they used uh artists that were licensed for uh specific things that also needed approval from those artists too so in order to show stuff off they have to go through more red tape than usual uh akuma was in fact an indication of what the treatment of the characters was going to be like right and uh yeah at 30% they were saying that they were really happy with chanli she looked super cool but um right now to talk about uh the game again it would have to work with
Starting point is 04:00:31 capcom and tecans like schedules and they would have to find the right point but as such it is on hold as opposed to cancelled completely is what harada wanted to clarify uh somebody in the chat just completely nailed it so what you're saying is they took too long and a bunch of the agreements they made ran out of their time limits so now it's actually really complicated when someone tries to make a game like smash brothers that is a fucking teetering fulcrum point of licensing magic but you're not smash brothers it often doesn't go very well in the long run project cross zone continues to be unbelievable to me that that exists they they've managed to do this kind of thing before but um yeah that's as to the the generalized statement
Starting point is 04:01:32 i don't know if this will come clearly over the audio podcast but i'm making an exaggerated jerk off motion yeah in response to what harada said because i vividly remember the interviews where they asked him when sf cross tecan came out hey man when are you gonna talk about tecan cross street fighter and he said ask me after tecan tag two and then tecan tag two came out and they asked him immediately hey when are we gonna talk about tecan cross street fighter and he said ask me after tecan seven and tecan seven has been out and supported for like fucking four years now and they asked him about it and he goes ah the rights oh they're complicated man it's not it's not dead it's just it's like fuck off you don't want to make the game you're not
Starting point is 04:02:19 going to make the game you don't want people mad at you for saying that you took too long to make it sounds like it's not it sounds like it sounds like he wants to make it but there's like a million other things possibly not being mentioned such as street fighter cross tecan itself not doing that hot in general and kind of cooling the the the fire for another crossover of that nature while it while we understand the difference between these products there might not be a completely understood difference at large between the two you know hey let's play a little game i'll be herata you ask me when street fighter cross tecan sorry tecan cross street fighter when's txs txs f coming out ask me next thursday right right like and oh he asked me again oh
Starting point is 04:03:23 there's shipping problems uh uh well it instead of saying after the next project is done the answer should fucking be like it's got some issues that we need to fix and it won't happen until we work those out that's that's the answer because you know what you know what else had that metroid dread yep metroid dread had that problem there so you know it's all a callback but that's a more honest take on it than like ask me after the next game i have a completely i'm substantiated gut feeling based off of nothing and that this is somehow ono's fault like i'm not even joking i like i just fucking like in my chest and gut i'm like somehow some fucking how it's ono's fault i could see it i could see it being uh
Starting point is 04:04:33 one of two things i could see it happening uh a stupid amount of time from now or i could see it being the other thing we uh i said earlier which is the way virtual fighter came to dead or alive as a series of select characters joining the tech end roster yeah which is far from the same thing but maybe they go instead of turning 30 into 100 let's just repurpose that 30 percent and re-license it with uh with capcom mm-hmm i'd be good with that if they if they don't if the project actually gets canceled i could see them taking that 30 percent and trying to figure out how to salvage it i could see like hey fighter season two of tech and eight is re you chun lee
Starting point is 04:05:33 blanca geef and dollzim no dollzim not dollzim um i mean i got bro there's whatever there's items and there's pizzas and guns in the game it doesn't matter like it's like at this point doll some can show up it's fine sidestep him he's done sidestep sidestep dollzim and and hit him with a fucking mid on one of his limbs and he's getting crumpled that would look like shit that would look terrible you know yeah catch him with a snake edge um that's but but like that's what it is i think i think uh you're going one of those routes like shelved and then stupid stupid o'clock from now or um re-implementation but yeah yeah uh uh
Starting point is 04:06:30 i remember when i was thinking like man sagat would be one of the most interesting characters to see make the the transition and then fact showed up you know mm-hmm so you're like well that that's moi tai that's the big angry moi tai we're good super officially similar uh anyway last little bit here to touch on just a piece of uh little piece of of why to leave you this week is the descriptions of the descriptions and loglines for the last airbender netflix series have been released uh you see you seen these heard about these i have not okay well uh i can fill you in hit me up all right so you know four main characters here ang male asian lead characters 12 east asian south asian uh east asian or south asian heritage
Starting point is 04:07:38 typical 12 year old boy a bit goofy a bit nerdy restless at school always eager to join his friends for fun and games nimble energetic i'm sorry could you back up a bit restless at school always eager to join his friends for fun and games nimble energetic you know as you would in the schoolyard uh adopted at birth struggled with questions of how he fits in but his slaving parents worked hard to make him feel accepted so he grew up to became generous kind hearted and he's cheerful you know you just say parents i'm i'm yeah it's yeah you know um gifted with an incredible mystical power he doesn't really understand but could be the key to saving the world from a global conflict uh is reluctant to accept it because it'll take him away from his
Starting point is 04:08:17 family and friends and everything he knows just wants to be a regular kid so it's ang it's the it's just ang you know sounds like they're going pretty faithful right on right in there you know like 12 energetic excited happy fun lovin gonna save the world maybe go on uh what do we got here katara uh female native american 14 uh um indigenous of north america smart athletic determined and hopeful hope to keep trying to keep her family together since her mother was killed in a mysterious supernatural event many years ago uh the memory haunts katara every day right on point so far started to develop strange new powers that both intrigue and scare her looking okay looking for someone to help her understand these changes also started finding
Starting point is 04:09:14 hope in the thought that her new skills could lead to a brighter future for her and her family you know it's katara it's katara that's just katara oh ah saucas here you know 16 go on that is zuko on that zuko's on that i can skip right to zuko right to zuko uh 17 east asian or south asian uh excellent shape focused and driven uh driven to be an overachiever by his overbearing father a career military man failure is never an option doesn't matter who you have to hurt to get to the top struggle to reconcile with the philosophy of his kind-hearted nature the conflict made him intense and guarded comes off as arrogant and brusque when he discovers he's developed mysterious powers and is competing with ang
Starting point is 04:10:05 for a key role in their project zuko's father tells him to stop it nothing to win no i knew it i knew it would be the oh no no one knows what bending is no mysterious high school powers no this is just avatar evolution man uh presented by by death note why is it gotta be like this why is it always have to be like this so why is it always have to be the same formula so punch mom asked me that exact question in that exact same way just earlier and there's two really simplified but i think pertinent answers the first is many times many directors that get involved with a project will often feel that well sure i'm adapting something but also i'm here for a reason i'm gonna put my spin on it and we're going for a new audience new crowd
Starting point is 04:11:23 new generation netflix is is aiming at at a new group of people that didn't necessarily or even if you're old fans we got some new kids to show this to so i'm gonna put my spin on things and we're gonna put the guardian code live up in one fucking uh uh uh swoop we're gonna get all those new kids loving this this hot new shit and it'll be great um they want to insert themselves more into the thing that they're adapting than than usual now uh every once in a while you get a robert rodriguez who comes along and says we're making sin city and we're doing and we're filming the panels of the comic book and adding music to them everyone shut the fuck up and then you go okay and then it works out and you're like yep he filmed the panels and it was great but good
Starting point is 04:12:14 you get this thing and then and then what's even better than the director wanting to do there the writer or whatever or the the creators wanting to put uh uh uh uh more of themselves into things is the uh the rewrite system that uh i remember hearing about and i think um um i think it was uh uh um god what's his name um uh max i forgot oh god the the the fucking use any word sorry sorry the guy who the guy who who did the superman um wrestling isn't wrestling and superman um oh landis max landis yes i want to say that like there's a it might have been him that mentioned this if and if it didn't come from him then it came from somewhere else but there was a a a description about how writers often
Starting point is 04:13:13 get hired to do um touch ups or to verify the quality of a script so a script for something comes in and then someone a producer will take it and contact five writers on speed dial and send it off to um these this team and then like what and then writers will get it they'll read it and then they'll and then the job is to either go oh hey this is a great script or to make changes to it and punch it up right so the whole punch-up concept ends up being uh you have multiple people that if they take it go this is a great script and then they hand it back to you you there was almost no purpose in in talking to them or are getting them on the job and then it ends up being something where they effectively are like well you might not even get a call back at this point because what
Starting point is 04:14:06 did you do here or you punch up the script you change something in it no matter what it is even if the script is good and you made a meaningful change to this you get a credit and uh you're involved in some way and you get a call the next time okay cool doesn't matter if the fact that the the thing you made was or helped make was trash in the end so long as you got that credit so fourth punch-up fifth punch-up it's been passed around through multiple people and they've all put their mark on the thing because there's only so many ways to punch it up handing it back and going yeah this is fine is not an option you need to get that credit you need to be relevant and how many writers are there trying to get a script passed right well how about you
Starting point is 04:14:59 have like 10 people who are all writers who all have a script none of those scripts get passed but they do also receive constant looking uh uh scripts for people to review and punch up so that's a smaller job of being a writer that you can do that's guaranteed that you get more involved with and it's much more likely to get uh you more work in the future than selling your original script so people punch shit up all the time for no reason and you end up with these Hollywood development hell nightmares because everyone wants to get their name on things by changing things around and making insignificant changes but ultimately things that are impactful on the script or on the world or on whatever and it turns it into a piece of shit is that what happened
Starting point is 04:15:41 here i have no idea but this is what i i always think of when i see drastic changes for no reason how do you feel about broth like soup broth yeah yeah i mean i've had good broth but a lot of broth ain't that great how many cooks do you want helping with your broths yeah do you want one cooks yeah do you want two cooks it's kind of it's kind of nuts because like
Starting point is 04:16:24 it's a product of a system that like incentivizes people to turn things on their desk into shit oh you mean like everything in Hollywood you know uh it sucks but like once you kind of find something like that out you go well now it all just come like yeah people are trying to get a paycheck you know that's what it is hey hey jimmy hey billy what if we took this thing and made it suck ass we're going to be millionaires for every script that gets greenlit there's a hundred writers that didn't get a script greenlit that have a lot of punch-up credits on their name
Starting point is 04:17:07 so yeah how does it go you can make more from you can make more from a flop than a hit i don't know i'm not familiar but it sounds like there's a ring to it i mean one thing's for sure like netflix has been through this rodeo before and you know they've they've given us fucking death note like they shot it they filmed it they they put it on their platform they're down to do this and get people talking about it one way or another you know this sucks springtime for the fire nation okay how long you've been cooking that one up that's good and and ozai springtime for ozai and the fire nation yeah yeah well anyway um that might be that might be the
Starting point is 04:18:24 problem oh also sonic minecraft go there's a thing oh who even gives a shit um i well i'm like hey it's it's the thing that it's the itch that's sonic robo blast scratched i don't i mean the reason why i'm like who cares is like there's two verses of minecraft like the official one and the java one which everybody uses that you can mod anything into it anyway so when it's like ah so and so so coming to it's like you can just you just put sonic in there you can put sonic's penis in there like you know whatever yep anyway uh let's take some letters hey if you want to send in a letter you have to send it via the electronic mail over to castle super beast mail at gmail.com that's castle super beast mail at gmail.com
Starting point is 04:19:15 don't email us about sonic's penis it's probably really gross got one coming in from uh oh yeah they showed a new zelda trailer looks good yeah the rest of the world you know it's not much to say it's good all right we'll talk about later when it comes out playable zelda no well playable gannon probably possibly before play play hyrule warriors fucker how dare you i would if they could fix the framerate no new content better framerate or new content wrong answer oh you got me again juggernaut says hey beast lords quan from oklahoma here in the past two weeks i have acquired a six foot noid plush i was leaving
Starting point is 04:20:18 work at night around 9 p.m and as i was driving home on the way i'd pass by the side of the road i saw a giant six foot noid plush it was left out on the streets it was clean for the most part and i felt an urge like never before within a few minutes it was shoved in the back of my car it was also sitting next to a yard sale sign uh but there was no yard sale going on steal it okay within a few blocks i drove around the cat also it had been raining most of the day so i was concerned as far as i was concerned they were throwing it out suffice to say i now own a giant six foot noid on top of that whenever i searched online for giant noid plushies for sale i couldn't find one which makes me think this was custom built but then i found a worn out
Starting point is 04:21:05 tag on it so it had to be manufactured anyway this is my way of sharing some pictures of my giant noid alongside a pizza mungus uh because i happen to uh work part-time at a pizza place and take advantage of the situation making memes um yeah thinking of trying to think of pranks to use it putting it out in front of the house dominoes delivery etc oh man that's so fucking cursed and there's there's yeah there's some pictures of a giant noids pictures of like the noid is the only the noid is the only food or restaurant mascot that i'm familiar with that had to be discontinued due to like a fucking violent criminal act the it's like it it it's it made a guy go crazy and hold a bunch of people hostage and and had them making pizzas and just the idea of a six
Starting point is 04:22:03 foot tall friend also the noid is like horrible the noid is like a ugly freak of a restaurant mascot sounds like a perfect wait wait wait hold on people don't know about this i'm seeing a lot of people just freaked out oh that's terrible oh i'm just looking at it it's awful i hate it children just uh just type the noid into google and your answers will await you they're right there yeah there's a there was a guy whose last name was noid who thought the noid was talking to him on tv so he went to a dominoes with a with a gun and was like fucking stop at dominoes and held everybody hostage for like a day it was also a super nintendo game it was sounds like a perfect character for our for the dangin rompa mascot mashup
Starting point is 04:22:58 the noid would absolutely be in there taking out the the those little caesars mascot wait the noid is back the noid did come back the noid did we we literally i think we we dropped reference to it i can't remember this shit we did stupid we draw we dropped reference to noid coming back yeah okay that's fine yeah yeah so there's a noid this picture is super cursed dude it's so much bigger than the car there's a lot of a lot of cursed noid oh yeah there you go i'm showing the people all right you can uh you can just that's just terrible
Starting point is 04:23:48 you can just google google the noid if you want to know if you want to know what the noid looks like just google the noid give noid uh we got one coming in from pepper says their professor woolly and test subject pat we're slowly moving the myths of you only use 10 of your brain in the media we're moving past it i'm excited for the future bunk science i'm excited for what future bunk science we will be moving past in the future uh personally i'm hoping that we finally move past the alpha wolf bullshit what garbage science do you think or hope will be next on the chopping block in media i mean look i'll go the other way on this right uh i'm did you hear the question yeah i'm just like what the other way we're like
Starting point is 04:24:54 i'm happy to tell you all that you do only use 10 of your brain like no no no no no the other way in terms of uh selling me on like my reluctance i am down for a not Jurassic park but other kind of movie with feathered creepy dinosaurs that move like birds that twitch that that have all the creepy bird mannerisms except they're at murder size i'm down for a depiction of that somewhere to sell me on feathered dinosaurs feather sores i can buy it if you if you if you put the work in because birds are birds are birds are creepy birds aren't creepy birds are stupid have you seen a bird they're fucking stupid unfortunately they're fucking dumb hummingbirds are cool yeah they're cool i saw one the other day i couldn't believe it i didn't know we had them up here
Starting point is 04:26:02 especially when their wings beat at the frequency of the frame rate of the camera so then it just looks like they're they're levitating just hanging out the spine tailed swift is also cool i would like i would like if i would like the the fake science of videos people have sent me of rats being able to swim uh to to pass and uh for people to stop making these cg fakeries i would also like to give a shout out to the peregrine falcon it is the fastest flying except for the spine tailed swift when it's in descent that's cool shit is that flying if they're just like rocketing towards the earth via gravity yeah so so that's that's it like the peregrine falcon you can't fuck with it it's it's it's
Starting point is 04:26:51 can't touch her too fast flies uh around at crazy top speeds however when the spine tailed swift feels like fucking around and finding out it will dive faster than that the light is it is it diving at the accelerated speed of gravity well all flights like all flight is controlled falling pat i mean under that context like i could i could fly really fast for like a couple minutes all flight is controlled falling okay and let's take one here from i can't get that fucking six foot noid out of my head dude it's so creepy holy until you wake up and there he is oh that'd be oh man that's worth it oh going through the
Starting point is 04:27:52 trouble to do that to someone that's worth it sneaking into their house yeah spouses in on it yeah yeah risking whatever really risking getting shot if you're be somewhere where that happens yeah man i'm just thinking you know that movie lucy with the scarlet joe hanson god that's the first thing i think of with the brain percentage it's it's so upsetting yeah yeah it's so upsetting the premise of this whole thing falls apart like ironically enough despite having somewhat the same plot nobody's getting angry at the movie powder where the the weird kid turns into energy at the end because it's not trying to be edgy okay i've never seen powder but i've seen the trailer for it many times because it used to play over and over on on the channel that had the the the the
Starting point is 04:28:46 guide for what was coming up next on tv because back in the day to know what was coming on next you have to turn it to the the guide channel and like it would play forever because it was on the fucking uh a pay-per-view thing and it kept showing the the the running in the field and turning into lightning and it kept showing the deer and yeah yeah i don't know i'm not it just there's the lightning and then it shows you the deer where the guy shoots a deer and then took what touches the deer and he touches the farmer and he put it into me and then the guy goes and the deer goes right and then there's three things in that movie that as far as my brain is concerned he turns into lightning he touches the deer that's screaming and then he makes the farmer's
Starting point is 04:29:35 bus and then there's there's the fucking cafeteria where he touches all the forks and then all the forks slam together and it shows a guy with like a bread halfway sticking out of his mouth and everyone's going oh my god but it's the nastiest shit ever because all the forks still have the food on them from everyone's meals and they splat and you see all the gross food flying everywhere and it's fucking disgusting and i'm like i don't want to see everyone's mouth food splatting together in a catamari fuck this movie and that's all i know about powder that's you know what i watched that movie and i don't remember anything other than what you just said three things that's all the trailer was constantly that's all your that's all your movie
Starting point is 04:30:28 needs man do you remember that movie where John Trafalta got a brain tumor that gave him magic powers which one was that phenomenon oh no i never saw it i heard yeah i know the movie but i didn't see it and then the end of the movie is they're like we could take the tumor out and save your life and he's like no i want to stay magic and then he died do you remember that movie where Mel Gibson walks under a street light that sparks up a bit and then he can suddenly read woman's minds no no no that's not how that happened that's it's much stupider doesn't he like get struck with weird spark lightning no no no that's what women want yes and uh he's an ad executive who makes manly products for manly men and the guy tells him because the mid 90s dude uh women are the ones
Starting point is 04:31:32 with all the disposable income do all the shopping like you're gonna you gotta advertise for women you dumb bitch sure you gotta get in touch with your feminine side so he goes home and he eats a bunch of chocolate and he does his hair up in like fucking curlers and puts like a fucking uh like a goddamn like mask on his legs to like fucking wax his legs and he's like in a fucking bathrobe and shit and then he falls into his bathtub and some bullshit falls in there and he right right right right it leaves him when he walks under the street light that is the case he walks under a street light and it starts sparking up and then he suddenly loses his powers yeah and then throughout the entire movie he basically is using his power to read minds and
Starting point is 04:32:21 then he has the relationships but then the real one he needed was with um was it Helen Hunt I want to say and and um in real life if someone gained those powers they would well behave like Mel Gibson in real life does so uh I guess uh yeah that was not quite not quite the way things should have shaken out in that script something something sugar tits I'm trying to workshop something here and I like I'm still whole the whole time we've been talking about this even when I'm talking I'm like how do I Mel Gibson you should just smile and blow me I just like I don't want to act before the jacuzzi I don't because they're horrible but like I want to kind of work in it I got nothing
Starting point is 04:33:21 the way you're dressed if you go out and get blanked by a pack of blanks it's your fault also passion of the Christ is that is that what he read in her mind but Jesus though also also the Jesus don't forget also Jesus yeah uh that that movie was like the weirdest thing in the world I remember talking to people who were like oh man it was like and I'm like it's just whooping his ass for like a 90 minutes yep yep in fact uh my church paid for uh an outing to go to the cinema to watch it as a like a field trip of sorts and you're just watching his ass get beat
Starting point is 04:34:17 and uh it's just it's the school of thought that shares mother Teresa's whole suffering is awesome thing like I I watched half an hour of it somewhere and all I could take all I said was like wow they're really giving it to him it's it's it's the it's the it's the Teresa school of ass beatings rule so like let's just really really really indulge on the ass beatings you know kind of and and yeah yeah but that's uh the more you know you know a murder of crows a gaggle of geese a pack a pack apparently I'm doing a little shrugs because I'm not going to say anything until we move on to the next topic ain't no topics left then just end of the podcast from here on out the podcast
Starting point is 04:35:14 it's here it's it's you need me to open up these pickles it's awkward and then there's nothing but credits from here on out so wow these are these are stuck pickles dog you cannot help me with the pickles hey man I gotta go open some jars or shit you do that by the way I opened it they're open now oh no I spilled it I'm pickled

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