Castle Super Beast - CSB 125: Vaguecast: Thank The Men

Episode Date: July 7, 2021

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Oh Hello, yes, hi, are we there now? We are there Just slight adjustments issues Devices and software changes Wait, hold on. Yeah, all of a sudden, huh? Hold on. You're you're not coming through huh Oh, it is on your end. Hold up

You're putting me through a different thing. I'm totally muted something that'll play for shit on the on the audio version Hey everyone, huh? What is start the whole thing over? Let's call the whole thing off Finally pad is muted goddamn you people. Yeah, this is actually the best the podcast has ever been Damn it, but unfortunately, I'm gonna have to quote-unquote fix the problem. So let's try this Don't fix me, please. Hmm. Mm-hmm Okay

That didn't quote-unquote fix the problem Well, what if we switch that setting to that one over there and then Took you and put you over in this corner Hello Why is that that way? Maybe if it was like this Hello, what do you have? What hello?

Yeah, that that's there we go. Okay That would do it. Well, what did it? So Weirdly, I guess because uh, I disconnected and reconnected the the headset and then the Discord output device was set to the Default output and it wasn't and oh you can never use that piece of shit, right? So I was wondering if it was the hands-free problem again, but it wasn't because that's a disabled device

But it was just setting to default and then I switched it from default over to direct and now it's fine Yeah, it's all it's always The discord's default thing. It's always broken always every time Why why would that do that because all it has to do is refer to the system's default device? Yeah, well I blame Windows You know Sometimes software has a single job to do a One job only and then sometimes that job gets um a

Little a little caught up in the weeds and You're like hey if I open you click record and then save will you make a sound file and it's like yes Okay, now we'll next man cool Will you also send my data? to China through Russia and God knows where else and and and the police and The answer is we'll get back to you on that. Are you over 13 or not and

Then you go, you know what I think I'll take my business elsewhere So to those of you who don't know about the audacity of this shit Audacity the audio program that almost everybody uses because it's free and it's good Just said hey the next update We're gonna store all your personal data in like Russian servers and then if your cops ask for it We'll just give it to them. I actually think it was discovered because of the Please stop using the software if you're under 13 Like update to the you know, it's all it's all in there and then like it's all yeah

But that was the first that was the first eyebrow razor and then when they're like, what's the problem with 13-year-olds using? Audio software and it's like well, you can't collect data of anonymous 13-year-olds legally and send it to other countries And it's like Okay, right I Was just so this Podcasts now powered by dark audacity currently which is a branch that uh, yeah Popped up as the Alternative I did see other alternatives depending on what your purposes are, you know, um, yeah

I think mega ran was suggesting something that was like possibly for more musical uses but For for for what we needed for this should the shot of ought to do the trick. I do find it It's such a weird thing because I was explaining to punch mama's a Moment ago about this whole thing and it's like yeah for about a decade now I've been using this free program because it's light simple and does the job, right? And it turns out that in many cases the More expensive

Program which I'm willing to pay for if it'll do the job Will always be bloated with features and memory leaks and all kinds of problems that like Don't actually help with the basic function and in many cases I used gold wave a couple times and it sucked I don't hate gold. I use no I like gold wave, but I use gold wave for a different thing gold. Yeah I mean for my purposes it was like infuriating. Yeah for me gold wave is for like a bunch of us for like post Processing but live gold wave capture. I don't I don't use the features off for that at all It does great for post processing though

But I but I'm talking about more so like because the difference between let's say an OBS and an exploit, right? where you're like, okay the The thing you've made here is now going to load with a heavy Startup thing that connects checks for all its updates And then it's also gonna run through a bunch of other shit that you're not gonna need and then there's gonna be a memory leak So that after like two or three hours of using it your whole shit's gonna slow down and crash And you don't know why and it's like that's good That's good. You want that gets frustrated

Takes a week to make their own simple thing that just does the job and then that becomes the thing that people use because It just does the fucking job. I Think it's really funny in Audacity's case because Audacity up until the very last release was an open-source sound recording program and so like even though whatever company bought Audacity and will continue to whatever audacity in the future. You can't Unopen source every version before this. Yeah. Yeah, like you can't there's always gonna be very Variations of audacity that are free like dark audacity or whatever other branches you want that are just floating around that

Everyone will tell you to use instead of the official one unless they go back and do shit But like for now, it seems if you don't update then you won't catch any of this, but it's like yeah, let's just be safe and Uninstall it on everything anyway. I mean sometimes shit. Just update. Yeah So I'm reminded of like how the Battles between VLC supporters and media player classic supporters can rage with all the fire of a thousand furies forever, but They're both simple small video players that you drag a video into and it'll play the video and Both exist out of a time when Windows media player

Officially would try to download new album covers take five minutes to connect and see what's going on in your library Ask you for the fourth time if you want to sync up your your new out your new CDs, you know or or In a more or in some other cases fucking Apple quick time is gonna open up and show you the new Fucking trailer for some shit. You didn't want to watch and it's gonna take another five minutes because of the heavy UI and all this other Background processing shit. It's like for the love of fucking God. Can it just have a play in a stop button with a volume knob? You know, I think I think the Ultimate version of this and I know you feel this pain. I'm gonna hold up my telephone. This is my cellular phone

It's a Samsung Galaxy. Whatever. I forget which one it is The explicit reason why I have Android phones and will always use Android phones is because of multiple evenings of me Screaming at my computer because iTunes would not just put a goddamn song on my phone Just just eyes bulging yeah screaming Yeah, I just want to drag and drop this fucking OC remix album onto my fucking phone pop up God damn pop up like a hard drive and drag it in there. Nope

We have to stand in between and play bouncer Between you and your own shit every time no matter what no matter what device and for a while It wasn't just Apple It was like if you had any of the other like pocket music players like a creative zen I think was like one of the few ones that came out that like was kind of saying advertising that like you can just drag and drop But it did still have proprietary software You know the zooms and shit There was a bunch of stuff where it was all about like no you need

Middleware to install your mp3s. We know you just want to drag and drop But that's the point is the point is fuck you the point is is we're gonna make sure you're using our software, you know it became like the number one thing that I kind of felt like I'm like that's Like the end device would be the one that you plug into a computer and again Just a hard drive pops up and then you drag things on to it and then it'll just that's that's the final black box and Somewhere along the lines multiple companies must have realized that like you can't give that much freedom You have to brand it. You have to own it. You have to make sure that you can

Verify it and check whatever is being installed for for you know I mean obviously there's the pirating purposes and then there's everything else they want to do Data that metrics blah blah blah. You're giving all that away for ease of function and use and convenience and that's not okay. I Remember a vivid period in time. I Feel like it was a six month to one year period in which the PSP With a decent SD card was unironically the best media player you could buy Hmm like because because of this It had a big screen

You put your headphones in and it worked well and you just dragged and dropped shit into whatever folder and that was it Yeah It really is like It really is just frustrated P programmers who can make a simple solution to all of this garbage are the people who saved the day in Many in many many instances for video players for media for all these things you just you come along with a media player alternative Quick-time alternative media player classic. You just fucking open it and it works, you know Hey, and you know what shout outs to win amp version 2

hmm, I Used that for like a full decade after version 3 came out and Version 3 had all that bullshit in it and like all you do is you drag the fucking music into the little playlist and it played the fucking music Warning all I wanted it to do warning critical windows update You must re-start windows huge big important update coming through guys. Don't miss it. It's massive security functions We added weather to the start menu You can you and when you highlight it, it's gonna show you pop news now weather pop news couldn't

Important update people it fast enough Critical security you must know that the weather is gonna be fine tomorrow Well, the trick is that they actually bundle in the actual security update with that bullshit Yes, you get to have the choice of a nice holes computer and a Slightly less holes computer with a little bar that I just Screamed at and tried to figure out how to turn off as fast as possible

I would wager a couple bucks that not a single person on this planet Saw that feature and went hey cool. Yay. I want this. I Can tell you one person I want it would have liked that. I bet you every single person who has ever seen that Immediately went how do I turn this off? No My dad bonzy buddy bonzy buddy boy. Yeah My dad would have been like oh cool Yeah, Papa bonzy buddy boy. Vin. Yeah. All right. All right cuz he got too many games on there. All right

He's my friend. He is useful The eyes cute Dad get the shit off the family computer. No, it's fine. All right games making the computer slow. Sure. He's my buddy Fine anyway, so Audacity was quite hilarious with their naming choice the entire time and now literally with the audacity of this But they were purchased by some other company that decided to do this if I'm not mistaken Yeah

So Yeah, why don't you should ever get your dad like a tomagotchi just get him like a fucking bonzy buddy tomagotchi No, he'd be like what is this? What is this shit put a search engine in it? I legit You ever you ever go over to see somebody's computer and like I've seen this once and Like they have like the five toolbars the five search bars coming down off the top of the browser. Yeah There's there's yeah, there is that one screenshot of like it's just like just browser cancer In that one screenshot of like 80 bars, but no I did I

swore off running Tech support for my mom for a while because I just I hit a point where I can't I Can't do this if I'm there in person. I'll take a look but this is It's like it's just it's too much. You everyone knows you get it. It just I couldn't and My mom to her credit only asks me in person. Okay Like no, it was round the clock, but blowing up the phone text every format every medium whatever it was just it was anyway and She recently needed some important documents like taken care of and shit, so like okay

Let's let's do this and then I set up the like all right. Let me let's see it screen share remote desktop and Then you connect and you just oh, no Oh It wasn't good. Yeah It was see I I actually have to run tech support for my mom specifically Because she's not even the one who asks me my dad asks me to run tech support for my mom So that they don't have a fight

Because it's like a it's a guaranteed situation Where she asked my dad how to do something and he's like fine and he shows it to her and she's like I don't understand and Then it starts so instead When I'm over there Mom asks me if she can if I can show her how to access her email or what have you and it always goes the same way Where I explain it and I show it and then I give it to her and I explain it as she does it and Then she goes okay, and then before I leave I ask her to do it and she can't do it

And so then I write down on a notepad every single conceivable step Yeah, and then I get a call later that night that one of the steps wasn't clear enough and now she's Lost in her Chromebook correct Yeah, it's like can we start can we start with Turning on auto arrange desktop icons and align them to grid No, we need them. No, we need them. Just scale. I like I like them where they are. I like them where they are just just Just poured out on top of each other and yep, okay, all right

And if you God forbid you actually auto arrange it then you've moved to where the things That she knows where they are now and that's anyway I've moved on to no desktop icon. Correct. That's the actual answer The actual answer is it should be the artwork and maybe a recycling bin You know but Here we are back in the day I remember when it used to be like fancy-ass edgy desktop to match my Winamp wallpaper would also

Yeah, would also have a section for where your icons should go You know, yeah, there was a whole there was a whole rhyme and reason to it You know, but we've now gotten to the point of like no no icons. No desktop. There is no desktop Open a folder my mother We left my mom alone with the computer for one hour back in 1999 and we came back and She had

Deleted the recycling bin. Yeah. Yeah, okay. I remember this somehow And I know you can't technically delete it. She must have moved it somewhere, but yeah But I legit was not able to fix it. It took my dad all night to find where the fuck it was or how to get it back We don't know how she did it Fucking lives on and in fucking infamy in my mind forever She must have dragged it into some fucking folder and then deleted the folder freaked out or some shit. Oh My god, you know, we could talk shit about old people, huh? Yeah Fuck them

As I lean back on my orthopedic chair Hey, man I've got a great segue into a story this week of me laughing at old people Well, I was they don't know how to computers. I if you got some I did want to make a point I wanted to say is that um the The as far as software like jumping the shark goes at bare minimum You do have to give it up for real player because it was a piece of shit format and

Player and entire experience But it never pretended to not be selling your shit to other countries and spamming you with ads Real player was garbage from day one, but it was honest You got it You got a banner ad the moment you opened it some dude yelling at you about what you were about to play or watch and A bunch of stupid buttons to click on that were too fancy, so they didn't really work And it and it would it would buffer offline videos It was terrible. It was terrible, but it told you right away

my experience with real player was I Wanted to watch a movie trailer off the official movie website and you could only watch it with real player for some reason mm-hmm And I would then download real player To watch it and it wouldn't work and it would go god fucking damn it God damn you and uninstall it until the next time. I wanted to try and watch a movie trailer off the website. Yeah Yeah, that was that was quick time for me It was like you got it. You got to watch it. Well, you have to install the latest quick time yet

What are you doing without it? And it's gonna install iTunes You know, it's gonna. Oh, you don't want the Apple installer. No, no, no, I want specifically no No, just get the Apple installer. We'll just in we'll install Apple. Don't worry about it anyway What what what old? Battleaxe where you laugh at people are so stupid because they can't use a computer Meanwhile this past week I had a plumber in my home because my garbage disposal in my kitchen sink stopped working

And that's real and convenient because I like to throw food scraps and and crap down there And you hit the button and it grinds up and it goes away. It disappears And I'm not sure how familiar you are with most food processors. I don't know if you got one I have one, but I've never used it If you got the food processor in your sink depending on the way that it's hooked up Sometimes it doesn't drain properly when the food processor doesn't work because the way it's sealed You're supposed to just use the processor to clear the water So my sink was like it would it would drain but it would drain kind of slow was annoying

so I think a garbage disposal not food processor my mistake Saying garbage thing in the same that does the thing. Yeah, I have one. I just never makes the garbage go away. Yeah. Yeah, I Scrape it into the bed. Yeah, those are different words. Those are different words and I Press on it. It was grinding some crap up and then it broke

I was like, oh sad. So I got a plumber in the house and like yeah, he's a broke The the the garbage disposal broke. Oh I don't know what to do. Do you have to replace it and the guy like gets down on one knee and looks at it and and touches it like once and It's it turns on and it's working and I'm like, what'd you do? He's like, oh, there was like a thing it trip it tripped the safety You just got to hit the reset button. I'm like, what reset button? He's like this button That's the big red reset button at the bottom of the fucking garbage disposal

And I'm like, uh-huh. That's brutal. Uh-huh I'm like, well, I got a sink that's acting funny upstairs. Can you take a look at that? He's like, yeah I'm like, I don't know how to fix this. I Pushed it down once it doesn't come up. He's like, oh, yeah He pulled out of a wrench and put it on the top of my little sink that you know those sinks They have like the push and he just grabbed it and he just yanked it once and it popped right out And I'm like and he's like, yeah Okay

Like these dudes have been in here for 12 minutes pay for his time And I'm struggling to think of something for them to do so that I don't look stupid, but there wasn't and I'm like Okay Well, thanks a lot. What do I owe you guys and then they charged me way less for the call because it they Their next job was nearby and so it was basically nothing Did you thank did you thank the men for doing their jobs? I did thank the men for doing their man job Boy and then I asked them if they could come back to install a new shower because I want to get a new shower And they're like, oh, yeah, it's like a half hour. I'm like cool. I'll see you guys next week

so like This is this is specifically if my dad if I was living at home with my folks Those problems wouldn't even occur Because if you give my dad a wrench and a plier and an Allen key and just point him at something He'll fix it be it electrical plumbing. Yeah The drywall fucking whatever there's but then I make fun of him. Yes when he gets on the computer exactly But there's two there's two ends to it It's like, you know, there's one is like knowing how to do that shit and knowing how to make the bookshelf

You know and then but then step two of being handy is I don't know what this machine is But if I can open it up and look at it I can figure it out if it's working like a machine does and it's not really electronic Yeah, I can probably see what's happened here. I can probably you know Loosen a bolt and you take some time to kind of like Knock around and eventually figure it out, you know, um, I mean, I'm I'm remanded of like the time when I was I was playing my dreamcast and I don't remember what it was but mom was mad about something and

She rolled in and she grabbed the controller and spiked it like a touchdown and that was That controller and I was like well fuck these are not easy to come by in these early dreamcast days Especially considering how the dreamcast needed to be protected at all costs So I asked my friend You know, I asked my friend mo who like had a dad that was like just hyper handy at whatever Yeah, and he's like, yeah, he could probably take a look at it, you know when he took the controller

And then he gave it back to me like two or so days later. He's like, yeah, so dad says that like Part of the circuit board cracked and a lot of the contacts were damaged so he replaced it and soldered it with gold so that it would like be better more efficient and Like it's a better soldering job than the manufacturer sold you so here's your fucking improved controller, you know, it was like goddamn Okay, thank you, sir And it was it was it was good I I can't do that I did eventually learn There's a I did like that was a while ago, but when I had to learn how to make arcade sticks I did learn how to do some of that shit how to solder how to get the the the drill do a woodpress job and

Hardware and man and and and circuit boarding and wiring and shit. So I eventually got some handy experience in me I Mean there's also the the weird in between between total baby baby handyman ability and like somewhat competent Which is where I live where I can I can build a shelf or whatever and screw some things in But most of the time when I open something up and look at it. I go. Oh, man. I'm super gonna break this

if I touch this There I'm going to put one hand in there and it's gonna fall to pieces. I better get somebody who knows what the fuck they're doing Yeah, and I've managed to do okay, although I feel Partially like there's a problem in that Punch mom is a bit of an enabler in that like so we have like a chair That's like missing a screw in the back or like one of these Little like stool things that has like a I get a screw loose thing So I kind of she's like, hey, yeah, there's a problem with this or that

And so I go to the toolbox and I grab the tools and I flip the thing over and I just tighten a screw Or I just attach like a bracket to a weak piece of wood and then she's like yeah, good job I mean, you know bait makes me feel like I've accomplished Something way bigger than it is and I'm like, yeah, totally did the handyman thing Uh-huh, and it's totally just like the most minor nonsense bit But but I feel like she feeds into it. So I Get a sense of over accomplishment for essentially doing what those men

Whenever I put together like a bookshelf page is always like, oh my god. Wow That's incredible Yeah, you're so handy. Yeah, there you go. I think I think they know I think they know that it's like They know these stupid adult baby nerds have no function like Yeah, in their bows whatsoever and you know what I mean like let me just say this be nice and

I don't know. Maybe it'll like Affect the testosterone somehow. I who knows. Yeah, you know, give him a give him a good pat on the head They'll be happy for a little while They'll feel like a big man God Also, one of the weird things that I've discovered in the in the course of this conversation Is everyone yelling at me not to put food into the garbage disposal? Which like then what the fuck is that thing for yes? Yeah, I don't know chopping your hand up

This is where this is where honestly, I don't know how to even Use it or begin with this because I didn't grow up in any place that was fancy enough to have a Garbage disposal in the sink. Oh, yeah me so now that I have one I don't know what the fuck to do with it And I don't know what's supposed to are not go are not supposed to go in there because I don't know I'm used to fucking closet apartments, you know So like I'm just I'm just not gonna use it and I'm gonna scrape my food into the trash like like that's what we do Because that's what I've always done

Because I don't know what the fuck it I don't know how to use any of that shit, and you know, I didn't I just never bothered learning It's so your sink doesn't get clogged after you wash your dishes that's what a dishwashers for That's why you put your dishes in the dishwasher and then the machine does it for you So if you're rinsing your dishes and you're getting the guck off Because you you have to take you have to you can't use the dish. What you can't put a plate of like spaghetti with the spaghetti still on it in the dishwasher No, that's ridiculous So I guess if you're rinsing off the major shit then it goes into that processor

There no there's like a there's a three-step process if you got like a chicken breast or something on there that you're not eating Because you're an ass thrown in the garbage. Yeah throw that in the trash or compost or whatever start a fire in your house You got like I don't know a couple noodles or like a fucking whatever Yeah, you just dump that in the garbage disposal and you when you scrape it But it no but then you put the rest of the dishwasher in the dishwasher Does your dishwashing for you? Yeah, I'm just gonna continue not using it It's been fine

Oh, do you have one? Yeah. Yeah, you said you had one. Yeah, it's right there I just don't bother cuz I'm like, I don't fucking know You know it does we don't need it It just the garbage will do and then water and then you Then you're good. I mean worst-case scenario I can just throw down like whatever garbage I want in there and then if it breaks I can call a big man to fix it What? Yeah, I put whatever I want in that dish what in that yeah, you put anything you want in garbage disposal put you in a garbage disposal

Take a while Take a while get those you get that insurance settled I feel like it would smell Yeah, you just just put some Febreze on it You know if it's chopping up your shit like I feel like it wouldn't go down Completely but to the fuck knows anyway, I mean you never know This week on the podcast we figure out basic household appliances Okay, well not basic let's be real I don't know maybe maybe maybe times have changed washing a dish the other day

That's why you can't wash dishes by hand. I Was washing a bowl and the bowl broke cuz I dropped it cuz the soap made it slippery and then the Bowl cut my thumb and it actually it's been like two weeks It still hasn't healed because a big chunk of my thumb got cut out and it still hurts when I do this at my thumb So don't you get to be careful with them ceramics There's stuff that like in my brain I thought was Fancy because of perhaps when they first were introduced to me years ago

That it that I think of as fancy like a garbage disposal, but that probably is Super available cheap and very common now and not a big deal. Oh But in my brain, it's still like a fancy thing in a bit in some way because of I think the craziest thing for me is like This place has like I think it's called a shower panel Right and it's like a shower panel that it goes like above your head and does the rain shower And when we got and when we got the house, I was like, ooh fancy Who's like a rain shower and then like when I was like we want to get a new one

And I'm looking online. I'm like, oh, that's like the default That you would get for like a couple hundred bucks. That's like that's how showers are now There's this there's this there's a podcast out there called are you garbage in where they just ask an interview? Yeah, find out if they're garbage or not and there's like a series of questions like this where you can find out like How do you feel about this or what's that? You know and like like like and then look for example Do you have a second fridge in the garage? Right do you currently No, no, okay. All right. Do you have a deep freeze? Do you have anything like that or you just have the one fridge?

I do not have a deep freeze. Okay, just use the freezer because if you had a second fridge in the garage in the garage Right, that's used for what soda or shit like that It's like, yeah, that's a sign that you're garbage because you got a new fridge But your parents didn't want to throw out the old one So they wanted to keep that one and they're like, well, you can't just throw out a perfectly working fridge So then you move it downstairs and then you use it to hold soda cans or frozen foods or whatever And it acts like a deep. We even though it's not actually a deep freeze and you're like, oh We may have had one of those back at my old and that's that's one of the evo and that's evidence that you're garbage

If you have that second fridge down there full of bullshit. I'm like, oh man. We that's exactly how that happens had an Absolutely gigantic deep freeze come to think of it. It was like six feet long. You could put a person in there Hmm Yeah, that's then if you have if you have an actual deep freeze, you're good. You're fine. That's class Right, but growing up if you had this this we refuse to get rid of it Because it you know, like you got God forbid It still functions then like yeah, you fit into that category. So, you know, and maybe I Don't know. Maybe I'm out of touch because when I grew up. I was like wretchedly poor and

I remember being like blown away like I went I remember going to my babysitters and she said to you kids Want to go swimming and we were like yay, and she brought us outside and we were very small and she just filled up a bunch of Like industrial buckets and told us to stand And it was like look you're swimming Yeah See like it feels as if like some of the neighborhoods that were it's like it's like okay So you get to be like super fucking poor and ghetto But you always you get you see some stuff that goes down and like America where it's like

Oh, we cracked open the fire hydrant and then the kids got to go play in it And it's like we never had that that never happened here in any way shape or form at all No, no, you know nor were there block parties or any of those things So it's just like you don't even get the fun parts of being poor It was just it was no the fun the fun part of being poor for me Was like the safe spot to play in my neighborhood when I was growing up was those horrible back Allys between all the duplexes in Verdun that are just raw concrete and speed bumps that are perfect for tripping children Just perfect for tripping young running children

Yeah No for us. It was the The shopping cart graveyard Which I never had one of those right next to our right next to our complex There was a a frozen Wasteland where people would take their they'd go shop They'd get their groceries down the road at the jet the big supermarket And they'd steal the carts and roll them back to the apartment complex and then after emptying them at their apartments

they would just push the cart into the parking lot next door and wherever it went is wherever it went and Some people's jobs were to go out and collect them But where we were was just far enough that it wasn't worth it for whoever was being paid to go do that It was just outside the range of like a fuck it Reasonable mess, so we just had like mangled twisted frozen over for more than a winter shopping carts Tucked into a corner that were like sticking out of the frozen waste in some cases like it was a graveyard. It was it was wild

Is Fuck I'm just thinking back. I'm just thinking back to like that first house I grew up in dude. It was right next to the fucking aqueduct So fucking moth season was so intense It was like if you open your door, you're eating them. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah Yeah, it's the sphere so bad open your back door and you see the sphere of moths And it's like it's like a tight knit like you can you can you can hold it and like move it Yeah, totally absolutely. Oh

So like I never just I we abandoned like in the shit apartment I was in like we just abandoned ever going in the back like we put our garbage back there so that it would like that's where the bin was but there was no reason to go back there if you're not emptying the garbage because We were one two three four Like five apartment complexes kind of creating like a u-shape so there was a shared back Right, I know that type of place. Yeah, there was a shared backyard in the middle of the you right and like So like the project kind of like had

And then like there was like a fence and then there was a really fancy apartment on the other side of the fence And then there was like an old folks home and then like down the other way you could see like I don't know like almost like highway or whatever But the middle part where the the in the middle of the you was was like technically backyard And it was usually gonna be and oftentimes Used as children are riding their bikes and playing back here except yeah over time It became less kids playing in the backyard common area and more of a our dogs are gonna shit here And we're not gonna pick up the dog shit

because we're too fucking lazy and don't give a fuck and over time it just became a dog shit field and Some kids kept going out and not giving a shit. I tapped out fucking immediately and It was super gross But like that's what happens when you're just sharing this area with however many God knows how many people and You know the ones who did pick their shit up eventually stopped doing so because if no one else is doing it Then why should I why should they so it just became a like let the dogs out back

They go dick around do whatever and then the dogs come back inside and you never have to go walk the dog yourself Because you could just open the backyard for a few minutes And then they'll come back on their own and you just know me you don't even think about the mess so That our backyard just became literally a minefield of dog shit. I So I when we when we moved to a nicer place is my dad got a better job when I was like seven or eight We moved to a place that had like a real backyard and we got a much bigger dog and I as the youngest child Got to discover

That when the dog goes poop in the backyard in the middle of winter and Then moves slightly the poo becomes buried and It becomes your for real problem as The youngest in a couple months spring treasure and it starts to melt and there are literally like four hundred Hidden dog shits. Yes in the yard that will show up day by day Yes, and you go out there with a metal a metal fucking shovel in one hand and a big stick in the other and

It's your job to just start scraping which is why dude. That was you do it. That was a nightmare Just do it immediately every time Doing it immediately every time is of course what you try and do Except when you have a big stupid dog that will poop and then walk a couple feet and then kick snow onto it At which point your only your only hope is that it some of it is still visible Because otherwise you're gonna have to dig with it with for your with your fucking hands or some shit I'm not doing it. I'm telling you man. Fuck that that shit It says front towards enemy on it before it goes under there

Anyway It's nice to not live there anymore Boy is it to anybody you grew up in LaValle, right? I grew up in I grew up in LaValle, but then the but the places I'm talking about are like no It was in LaValle. I actually had a house that was pretty decent like a normal Yeah, because that that was when the folks were together and then right after the split was when we went to the fucking to the complex after Grenada, okay

That so like I'm talking about like I'll put a name on it for those of you who live in Montreal. You would know I lived in 1990s Verdun. Yeah. Yeah, which was the second shittiest part of town and Boy like I go down there every now and then and they're like cleaning it up But I can still see the dirt underneath the new paint Yeah, like it's gonna take a long fucking time to scrape all that grime off I was in I was in the coat for two projects for our for a good bit of time and Oh

That is a that place sucked ass it you know was that the odds? the the odds No Wait, yeah, no because we eventually around around the 2000 is when we like finally like my mom was able to get like a house and She we moved from like those project areas ish to like this place that she had gotten and

Like that was kind of like that's the wall. That's pretty much her house now still, you know, and she got her place But yeah, it was the 90s. I've been there. It's very nice 90s 90s were were Grenada and then and then those those Okay So me and you live tied for second Thank the Lord we didn't live in the point Which is my favorite story my dad ever told me when I went to college He told me Pat don't ever go to the point and he defined the borders of the point and I went why and he said because you will literally die

Yeah, and then I remember when you started to work in that area I tagged along with you for whatever reason and I went. Oh, yeah This place looks terrifying. The weird thing about it is that it's not like It's not necessarily like like where I was had like larger blocks of just like Again like complexes and project sort of areas whereas the point didn't have that but the people were just Just Dangerous and soulless

You know point St. Charles looks like you went to a different planet a little bit. It's really bizarre a little bit anyway the other thing though and this is like Like I guess like part of the reason why we were in that fucking shitty apartment area for so long is because it was also Down the street and around the corner from church So, oh man. Well, that'll protect you no matter what happens no matter how bad it is It only takes us, you know, ten minutes walk five minutes drive to get to church And that's what's important. That means you're closer to the Lord the Lord can get to you faster if there's danger for sure for sure

Anyways Those days What's going on oh Man, I played some video games or whatever They're good video games are good our video games good We'll just say they're fine For the day. I've been playing a lot dead by daylight video games. Sorry. They video games are bad But video game is good. Oh

I get it. I can I can sign off on this I've been playing a lot of dead by daylight Because they're doing the anniversary thing Yeah, I got a code from my friend who works there. I should oh, yeah, I'll check it out What's the the codes for the base game? I think so. Yeah Game's fun game is also bad game is also good game is flawed Dead by daylight is like It should not be as popular as it is it is very flawed

It is very broken. It is constantly broken the map that came with nemesis the Rpd police station still not available for play because it's too buggy like a month and a half after came out and It's also like really bizarrely balanced and I feel like I could weigh in on this because I finally got good enough to get to the top top ranks in the matchmaking and That game has such a fucking weird balance in that for your ranking is from 20 to 1 and 1 is the best 20 is essentially unranked and as you win matches or lose matches you go up and down

From 20 to like six matches are overpowered in the killer's favor From six to four they're even From four to two they are massively in the survivors favor at one It is less so in the survivors favor and then the people that would be above rank one It's massively in the killer's favor So my enjoyment of the game has shifted dramatically per rank that I go up

I was at five which is the last of the purple ranks and I was having a blast and having good matches and then I won Just enough matches to get into rank four Which is the first red rank and all of a sudden all my matches are miserable shit vests that I'm conclusively losing Every single time is it the difference between Ignoring the meta and paying attention to it versus let's say Hyper specific types of advanced inputs or commands that like put things in the survivors favor It's the difference between a team being completely full in discord on voice chat and not

Doesn't anyone the purple ranks are where good players live and the red ranks are we're good players that are playing with their friends on Voice chat live. Yeah, so there's a threshold where if you're not playing with people coordinating together You'll never get past this number, but wouldn't that be like the halfway point up the ladder? No, okay like the the let like it's one of those games where most people are like really bad and And Like it takes a lot of time to grind out perks and perks Represent like a very significant power increase, but it's just it's the hardest it

Going from purple ranks to red in dbd feels like breaking into the celestial temple in guilty gear Okay, because yeah, no the most interesting thing about what you just said there because you've talked about dead by daylight quite a bit In different ways, but in that what what I'm curious about and what you just said is like what are the people doing that? Changes from the beginning to the middle to the advanced to the peak, you know Okay, so I'll I'll I can talk as a survivor as I as a killer player who mainly plays against survivors for my personal experience Beginners and intermediate is new players whether or not they have perks or not that enable them to run faster or hide better Genuinely good players are players that have gotten really good at the movement and can waste the killer's time and know how to focus down on generators and

then Really good players are the ones who can do all that shit and have the perks to back it up and then there's excellent players who can Run your ass ragged all over the map and waste like multiple minutes of your time And then there is the group that is multiple excellent players all talking to each other in voice chat So they will say I am wasting the killer's time over in this map quadrant You are free to work on generators or do whatever you need to do on the other quadrant Like the game has a lot of Game has a lot of perks that work to show you where a killer or survivor is

But when survivors are on voice chat, they can just tell each other Okay, where the killer so it's not so it's knowledge of everything combined with communication It's a really weird game because The game has absolutely no in-game communication features at all for survivors and the game seems designed around that But when you're playing survivors with your friends, you just you just fucking hop in a voice chat on discord and The game the game's design doesn't seem to accommodate with how to actually handle that So then everybody creates their own new meta around assuming everyone else is doing yeah Yeah, I also played a little bit of survivor for the first time and got to see that

There's something that Paige had told me about Because she mainly plays survivor and occasionally plays killer where when she plays killer she would get a kind of anxiety as Being responsible for the the the cadence and the the amount of fun everyone is having and I never really understood that because whenever I played killer I'm just playing to win and then I discovered upon playing survivor that There are an absolute Shit ton of people not playing to win. They're playing

specifically to be assholes and these are people that grab a hold of one survivor down them put them on a hook and Literally park their fucking ass in front of that hook for the entire match so that at least they get the one kill and Just remove the ability of that person to play literally at all and lose the match in general But hey, they got that one kill and There are tons of killer players that play like that it is wild How many shitty players just?

Just want to ruin someone's day like that's the only reason they're logging on Yeah, if you give someone the means to do that then That will become a regular part of the community in any game Like There's a there's a big argument in the DVD like Community I guess you'd call it as to what the term tunneling actually means so you hook somebody three times they die what is Usually agreed upon that tunneling is putting somebody on a hook and then just parking your ass there to make sure they don't get off

And if they do manage to get off Go and get that same person and basically not ignore the objectives so that you can just Ruin someone's day however, some people get kind of Pissy about it and tunneling goes to mean well you hooked me twice in a row dude or I happened to run past you and I had been unhooked a little while ago so you hooked me again even though we were on opposite sides of the map and The way that DVD has tried to

Fix this is really bizarre There have been almost no significant changes to the game's total formula in like Four or five years, I think the only big change is what happens at the end of the game if people just try and time out the match There's now a way to force the match to conclude So they go. Oh wait, we put out Bubba from Texas chainsaw massacre and he has a perk that if you stay still he essentially all his audio cues turn off Which incentivizes standing next to people and trying to get people that come and help them

Which is a horrible way to play the game So what they do is they put a perk in the game called decisive strike where if you try and pick somebody up too Quickly after they get unhooked they can get away from you So they use like the in-game progression to try and disincentivize some behaviors But now there's so many perks that like decisive strike isn't that popular. So tunneling is now back And they recently put out they they recently have They recently put out Jill she has a perk that if you go to kick a generator a flashbang explodes in your face and

That's to counter like Jen kicking Strategies and perks, but now everyone just doubles back to ruin and that that whole part of the game is gone where you kick gens Like they're trying to fix it with progression But there are now so many new perks all the time that it's always shifting and they can't Force people's behavior with it. It's it's really weird and are the new ones being put at higher and higher levels The new ones are associated with the new characters that come out per chapter, okay Because any time there's any time there's a game where you have to unlock a bunch of shit like that That's going to become critical to how you're supposed to play

There's then that like oh, you're not even really actually playing yet because you haven't yet unlocked this thing Aspect to it. Yeah, that's what I was that's what I was describing to you earlier with the difference between like good players and good players But they literally just don't even have for example. Yeah Yeah, so I want to I let's say I want to play pyramid head, right? And then what's a really good build for pyramid head a really good build for pyramid head is discordance Which comes from Legion, which means you have to buy Legion Ruin which comes from a hag. So you have to buy hag Undying which comes from blights. You have to but buy blights and barbecue and chili which comes from

Leather face you have to buy leather face. So that's like thirty five dollars If I want to play a high-end pH You can totally make it work with any number of base perks or whatever But like I find myself to be much more effective with that build than compared to something else They do have like a a System where With your level up currency you can buy perks for characters You don't own in a shrine kind of thing

But it resets every week and if you're not paying attention every single week you can miss the good ones Fuck that Right so like they're right before the anniversary happened like the subreddit was like hey everybody barbecue and chili Which is one of the best perks of the game. It's available this week. Go get it go get it So you don't have to buy leather face Yeah, it's it's that game is a Fucking mess And I love it, but it is a it is it is duct taped together

Tepin has started doing something similar where Well, first of all you have three supers that every character can do but you have to unlock them by playing that character X amount of Levels to get there, you know to unlock the ability to do that to do the thing So there is that like beginners with whatever deck versus like someone who's been playing it is not gonna have access to a thing But you get them pretty quickly. It's not that bad Yeah But they they started rolling out like there's new decks new stuff. So the breath of fire characters and Stuff are now in the game, but then they retired the old some of the old decks

so if you had anything built off of like when a kuma showed up or or or like Some of the older resident evil stuff now you can no longer participate in the ranked matches because those decks are considered unlimited Yeah, that's one of those That's one of those things. It's like an the natural the natural progression of card rotations Harthstone is the only one to my knowledge that really really genuinely fucked it up Because they said they weren't gonna do that And then they were like, oh shit money though, and then they and then they did it's not even about money It's about like balance. Yeah, everyone has it if people have every card

they'll be able to create just freak decks that no one can compete with and They ended up going okay. Well, we have to do the seasons Fine fuck, but they had already told people they weren't gonna do the seasons thing They told people their cards were good forever So the way that tepid balanced out those changes though was by like whatever a freak deck would exist They'd either nerf some cards or make them so that they're too expensive to really combine with other freak deck cards to put together Yeah, you know, so you go you'd go over cost and then you couldn't deploy that deck That's a smart way to do it

But what they ended up doing so the first so like last time they brought out Phoenix Wright and stuff the previous two or three First update decks were now considered removed the rotation had to include a new one I'm like, yeah, sure it makes sense and they retired a bunch, you know So make your decks based on the new shit only fine, but then the new Breath of the wild breath of the wild breath of fire stuff is out now and that means that like The deck from like one thing before is now No longer included and now it's like oh now you're just doing it like

almost like every new drop you're gonna remove one in a way that is like basically forcing people to have to go in and buy the new thing every time which Until now you didn't do and up until now I think people were enjoying playing this for an extended period of time making a decent deck and having it carry them for a while And now you're doing this kind of greedy thing. So I'm like I'm starting to like I had a pretty solid like you saw I did pretty well last season You know, yeah, and then looking at it now It's like okay

Well that deck is no longer usable and it was made up of last season's cards. It wasn't even like multiple Drops ago. So I see exactly what you're describing there with that type of like, but this is the meta shift to make you buy the new thing and I Get it, but it's it's not tough not Balance it in a way that is like not so out and out greedy, you know It's it's really tough because I feel like The greed aspect is really granular and it's like it's not like a like usually with video games You can tell oh man EA's loot box shit is poison like bam done But with the card stuff, it's it's like a it's like a curve and

It's like I feel the the distinction is if I buy a new card right now How long do I get to use it? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, the answer is like for my personal like If the answer is anything less than like a year Go fuck your exactly exactly and I built up a bunch of like Currency to make new cards But from playing it a lot and can you know like doing it or playing it constantly and doing all the little things

But and then you can you know you you get a bunch of packs for free And then you can reap the extras and do all that shit But now you get to a but then you get to a point where you're like, okay Well, I have this currency. I want to build a really good card and add it to my deck I think this is gonna be a good idea. Let me try this out and like it might cost you like, you know 3200 like whatever powder points and you're And that's like a lot and then the idea that you would spend it build this thing and then have it not be Usable within two season drops or so is like that's fucked up

I never had to think about that playing it in previous seasons, you know But now the life cycle of this possibly going away into what they're called and it's just they literally just label it as oh unlimited You know and then it's like, okay. Well, can I play online unlimited and it's like you can with your friends in a player match but oh That's weird What all the card games I'm familiar with there's hey here's standard rotation that has the the the rules of this stuff Going back to X date and then they have the you want to play the most fucking busted shit ever

Here's your other mode over here. Like I know Harstone had that yeah He where it had the fucking free-for-all nightmare queue So I was looking to see if they gave you the add option here and it seems like they don't it seems like if you and a friend Make a room and connect and play each other. You can do what you want If you play ranked or even just exhibition Those are stuck with the rotation. You know That's shit. Yeah, so the greed is not great when I do when it's coming out there like I like if you want to bring in your old bullshit and

and Fucking throw in to what is essentially? Fucking the marvel of card games in your card game of choice. You should be able to I Understand that they want to have the rules on ranked yada yada But it's so fascinating to me because this whole card game situation is so similar to the that whole destiny fucking Sunsetting bullshit with the guy, right exactly exactly. Yeah, and and It it breaks down to like everyone can understand the reality of balancing this stuff Unless you told us you weren't gonna do it or you take away the ability to use those things at all

So hard stone Said that you kept your shit forever, and then we're like, oh wait. It's actually a horribly a balanced fucking mess We're gonna put in rotation. So in a couple months Everybody you seeing this year's worth of cards will no longer be able to use that year of cards. Wow. That's fucked up I Think I haven't kept up with Runeterra I think the current state of it is there is not currently a rotation, but they have said since the beginning They're totally will be

Like old shit will eventually cycle out because like if they had like as far as like shit for for For people to like wail on in games like this with with teppen They they had these well, they I mean they still do and they're rolling them out But like they have the things like Phoenix Wright skin for Chun Lee or now there's a Nina skin for Jill Valentine From you know, and then there's like set music when you play in cosmetic shit, you know There's a bunch of shit like that. We're just like, okay You want to flex super hard? How cool is it if you've got a Phoenix Wright character being your main avatar or whatever?

Well, good luck. It's practically impossible to get you have to spend billions of dollars To ever get a shot at that based on the odds or whatever Um, I think the absolute wildest version of that I've seen is in League of Legends There's like you buy the season pass and then you have to earn a certain amount of a currency To buy a special limited time available to buy gold version of an event skin and it's just like I Played maybe a hundred hours of league I never saw one. Hmm. Like it's for the it's for the uber whales It's just like if you make a decision to put hyper cool

cosmetic wailing in your game then stand by the cosmetic aspect of that and like let that be your choice as opposed to the no also necessary wailing for like Competitive play or regular player or whatever and then kind of yeah, it just anyway I didn't like that too much and I'm I'm if I if I'm coming back every if every time I take a break and I come back to the Game, it's like yeah, you've got to buy a whole new deck or you've got a grind out a whole new, you know thing It's like alright. Well, I might just fucking chill and cool on this And if that's what other games typically have then I would really really hate that for rune Tara And yeah stone and magic the gathering and stuff

With rune Tara, they're not there yet. So it remains to be seen what it'll be but it probably usually it usually is Like twice a year an expansion comes out and when the expansion comes out it deletes one expansion From the bottom of the pile For years, I've heard about magic the gathering being like a series of your old decks mean nothing Like that's that's been my view the entire lifecycle of that game. That's all I've ever heard. So yeah and it's this weird thing where it's like The solution to this problem is don't make new cards Which if you're trying to make money is obviously not a solution at all because then eventually everyone will get all of the cards and

Fucking valve tried that with their card game a card game that failed so spectacularly. I don't remember what it's called nice, I Literally, do you even remember it was a big deal. They wanted to push it very hard at all And it is gone. It was supposed to be It was good if all the dota model where everybody got all the cards and it was all cosmetics Artifact that was it that shit's gone. I don't even know what happened to it Yeah In this case, it's not just new cards rolling out though

It's new cards and new subsystems in matches that you Like you have to be aware of or possibly participate in you know, so like with with breath of fire they brought out quests and with In a long they brought out like the the locking and Well locking already existed, but in a more pronounced way, so they introduce like Brand new mechanics alongside each of these like these new drops to you know, so Anyway, um, yeah, I I I've always from the time that my friends used to collect

Pokemon cards yugioh cards magic cards I always used to just look at it and be like like spending countless month amounts of money on booster packs at Our card shop every week or every month or whatever the case is like that just seems like a humongous waste of Money in time and furthermore the idea that you can just buy your way into victory seems really shit to me That's why when I heard about the set deck Kind of games where it's like no this is a game that has a set amount of cards and you participate in this way

That sounded cool, but it is very let me ask you a question. It's clear. That's not how you make money How much money would your pal spend? How much would my but yeah, that's exactly it like a month. Yeah, so like my passive friend would buy like Pretty much the second-hand individual cards from the rest of them and he wouldn't spend that much So he would just kind of like get by on trades and whatever else they kind of didn't want or they'd group together and do the whole What is it drafting where you pass it and you take one and you know you buy you split your money or whatever But like some of the fucking ones that were going hard was like yeah

There was a dude who'd buy the boxes like the box pack of like Pokemon shit at least once a month What was that that like was that like 50 maybe maybe 30 maybe 30 a month You know 30 maybe 30 a month on just collecting these cards and Reselling shit, you know as as but like there's no way what he was reselling was a booster box But there's no way what he was reselling was making more than he was outputting impossible So even if he was of course stacking up tons of these and getting rid of them. It was still a fucking sink People are saying those are closer to a hundred dollars the the the box Yeah, okay, then sure go buy go buy that

Crazy, yeah, it's it's it's very interesting because like I pay $18 a month forever to play my favorite game and I derive huge value out of that, but I'm also not dice rolling to maybe get You know a level up in 14 or what have you Did I ever tell you like the ongoing problem with Dead by Daylight's perk system and leveling I

Mean I thought you were because it's become a severe problem So every killer and every survivor comes out with three perks, right? And there's three levels of those perks level one two three. They have increasing effects right, let's say Every killer to ever come out I played them as they came out and what you do is you learn their perks so that other characters can learn it and it Goes into the pool of potential perks, right? Well, when you hit max level and did by daylight

Four perks show up in your level up tree that you can pick out of and to You can get to and the other two will disappear. So you get to pick out of it And that's called a blood web and it takes maybe I don't know 50 60,000 points to max out a blood web Every killer that comes out that you do that for or every survivor that you do that Means that the next one the next character that comes out that you want to level up all of those perks are in the pool Which means when I was leveling up nemesis and I wanted four specific perks

I had to go through 80 times three other perks To get there because they're all random and it and as they as new characters come out it increases It just gets bigger and bigger and bigger Okay, and their solution was it used to be you could only get three perks at level 50 But now there's four that show up so there's a better chance of the one you want and it's like It it it took like Something like 80 90 matches

For me to get enough points to get the perks. I wanted whereas when I started it took like man Five and it's only getting worse with time every chapter. They they bring out it gets a little bit worse So let's be real here like games plus time is Something that like we're only seeing a few like we're starting to see examples of but like it's a real It's it's relatively new in the sense that like the age of the games we grew up with would have a Death cycle and then be go beyond their way, you know The idea of a game that would constantly be updated as a service over the course of the length of dead by daylight

For example, there's few other games that are very popular that can say they've done the same You know, so like you kind of need like almost like a new There's new analytics. There's new metrics. There's new ways to balance things over an extended period of time that like other Games haven't experienced where you wouldn't necessarily think about what is this problem? what is the system gonna look like when we add 15 more characters five years later and It becomes completely Like ridiculous to anyone who's kept up with it or worse if you haven't let's Let's look at Super Street Fighter 4 or current Street Fighter 5

Hey, I want to get into Super Street Fighter 4. I want to learn to play Dudley. What do you have to learn? Dudley and 48 matchups if you care if you care that's it's right care to Not if you care to get good at Beating other people then you have to learn everyone that Dudley is gonna fight against. Yes Right Otherwise just don't care. Oh, yeah, I saw some people are saying that siege also has this problem Very strongly and I believe with the new with the new operators. Yeah, I

Played enough siege to remember that like you don't get to see the other players very often Because if you're looking at each other someone's getting killed. So you having to keep the amount of interactions and Powers in your head at all times. Oh, that's true in Overwatch you're you're Fighting another another team and you're having a bunch of Interactions with their characters powers and abilities But like yeah in a game like that it must be like really brief and there must be tons of things to worry about and think about I mean, it's it's interesting because if you zoom out if you literally turn move the camera up and zoom out

Overwatch will look like a MOBA Like the ability use and the attacks. It's just top down But with siege I played it for a while and the only time I ever saw anyone is if I actually turned a quarter and they had They're back to me in which case they were dead or I saw their gun peek around a corner and I just instantly died So like I had to I started the game maybe a year ago And I only played it for a little while, but it was tough even then to be like Okay, this this I need to be aware of people that can seal off doors I need to be aware of a character that can move silently

I need to be aware of a character that can jam our phones I need to be a character and like I don't usually get to actually see them in the match I don't get to see who I'm actually gonna square off against so they all have to be kind of floating around at all times I also saw on the card thing someone brought up that if you buy booster boxes, you can hoard them to make big cash on them later but I'm Yeah, I'm dead certain what you can't do that with Teppin or Hearthstone or yeah, but also back in in high school. Carlos was not doing that with his booster boxes Like he was not buying and hoarding them. He was buying them and opening them and and using them and then you know

Tossing the extra to friends for reselling or whatever, but not as a not as a I will give this dead by daylight one Like thumbs up thing that they recently did and it is specifically to combat this because Siege is the worst one of these that I can think of which is hey, you want to get into siege They've had season passes that are a couple characters and like do you want to really get into siege? It's like a three hundred and fifty dollar game and dead by daylight was absolutely like that like do you want to get in and Like really play everybody and try everybody out and get all the perks. Holy shit We ran into that because Paige originally started playing on my account

But then I wanted to play so she had to use her own account So I bought her the complete everything and light was like holy shit. It's like 300 fucking dollars They recently put out like packs of like here's 20 survivors for like $40. Here's like almost everybody. I Mean, you know what this entire kind of conversation is though? This is just this is squeenix having evidence that gas is right Games as a service absolutely is

How you make fucking money? You can make a lot of money with gas just make sure the difference the question Just make sure the game the gas is coming from an IP that you care about or the players care about No, not not IP that you care about the enjoyment in the game has to Override the amount of no, you know what fair enough not scoff exists. Yes. Never mind Right so DVD Like is Crazy popular. I'm routinely shocked at how popular it is music the steam stuff

the games falling the pieces and There's a lot that's too expensive and there's a lot of design stuff that's super frustrating But it's also the only game in the genre So people put up with it and putting up with it has been like another mark of the industry for the last 20 years I mean, you know once upon a time that that picture of the Mona Lisa being chopped up into DLC pieces What oh we're there? It that used to be a like statement that was profound in some way, you know, but like at this point It's like no, this is just the accepted poison you're gonna get with everything that's being sold to you

Like it's just if you're that's what's an online Multiplayer persistent game at least, you know That's that's like the MMO is the purest gas that has ever existed Mm-hmm, and you look at say wow and FF 14 and FF 14 has had a lot of problems over its life cycle and the dev team has earnestly and honestly tried to improve on or fix or mitigate those problems. So Everybody loves them for it that plays the game. Some people get tired of the formula, but you gotta get it, right? Every wow expansion. I just hear about people quitting because the shit that they were mad about eight years ago

Is still there? And you know like it's And and I'm not saying I'm not staying here to be like, ah, wow bad. I'm saying it's a good example of when your enjoyment is the same, but your disappointment starts to creep up on you as soon as it passes you're out. Yeah Yep There were there were two patches for 14 that I quit for like six months Because the patches fucking blue. It was a 3.1 and 4.4

3.3 Where I didn't like the way my class played and I didn't like the shit that was in there and I just left I'm like, I'm paying for not enjoying the game. I'm out. Bye And if it had stayed that way I would have stopped But luckily they improved it so I'm back. Oh, shout outs to FF 14 this week in particular With I got a really fun message asking me if we were gonna talk about that. I mean, I don't think there's a whole lot on

The surface where it's like, yeah big streamer plays FF 14 and it becomes impossible to enjoy in that circumstance But the video that we were linked to with Let me get the name correct because it was pretty good actually. I Also retweeted it. I'm gonna go see if I can yeah, it was a video by a gentleman named Josh Stryfe Hayes and It's called sometimes streaming isn't fun Which is The title is gets a little more in depth of than that. It's let's

That's a bit of a surface Title, but this the content of it is basically describing what the act of playing something for yourself Versus playing it for a stream actually consists of when you if you were to like control alt delete our brains and look at the processes running You would see it's primarily audience. Exactly, right? So He does a really great job of like taking something that I've often hand-waved as LP tax and Discussing it in a particularly eloquent way. It's a pretty great video Check that out. Yeah, but it it brings of the it brings out but it was spawned by the Stream sniping and FF 14 when said big streamer was trying to play the game this week. I

All I really want to say is stop behaving like children stop it And the second thing is that there was a really really like Good type of anger post Which was look at me. I'm going to go harass this guy Followed by the screenshot of your nine-day suspension Followed by what the fuck? How did they get me banned? This is bullshit

Mm-hmm, which is it felt like the overwatch cheater thing but a little bit. It's like I'm gonna go break the rules What the fuck? How could oh my god, right or internet dickwad theory that their talks to community got me banned It's like no your name was visible Square Enix actually cracks down on that shit And I would even say that people that likely wouldn't be like shits See all the shits being shits and kind of think it would be funny to jump in on the shit wagon in that moment Yeah, so that and it's just a little like a fuck it You know and it but still results in yeah, like absolute fucking unplayable chaos You know, so that's that's that is there

There were there were parts of that chaos that were genuinely fascinating that showed off like Parts of the way the game works that a lot of people were unaware of like the game will not allow A number of people above a certain number in two zones It just like if there's a there's a certain level of people in a zone and you try and go through the door It goes nah, uh No, I I caught a whiff of this madness when I started when I when I played it the other day for for near and I do get the feeling that like if not for like min and skull and

You know those groups that kind of like were organized To do these raids and to do them like if not for that organization beforehand It probably would have been Just as unplayably chaotic I uh If I were to go through it what I streamed ff 14 I went through like I'm definitely not as big as as some certain big streamers that have a hundred thousand k in there right now A hundred thousand k that's hundreds of millions

They don't have a hundred k in there right now Uh, and it wasn't my f14 streams will also weren't as big as your near one because you were a newbie and people desperately wanted to see you But like I don't know I'd get like 800 people in there and I would always go through a fucking process Before the start of the stream on will he don't act like you played it will you did nothing? Okay, all right, allow me to whatever Let me let me let me let me let me let me correct myself You were there if I were I started a new character Jure towards the end of the stream and then we laughed about potentially going further or not

um If I were to start to continue that character and keep playing them forward In that way without planning from groups of people that I would be playing with you wouldn't have had a shit show It would have been a similar type of experience. I could no I could have explained myself better Let me let me do that. Let me let me clarify my statement. So I hope that makes more sense um But like I would literally always go to an out of the way location I would server hop so that I wouldn't be on the server the people associate with me

And then I would start the stream Like I would do all my pre-stream stuff and then start the stream right there How effective is that even then? Yeah somewhat I think my absolute favorite version of that was uh some friends of mine who play the game or watching and when I started the stream A gentleman showed up on the front lawn of our house

Asking where I was and confused I wasn't there and then once my camera switched to my actual location They went oh, hey gotta go And then like 10 seconds later literally like creeped up into my camera frame And it was like Come on Come on Yeah, I believe I'm not saying their name because I don't want to blow them up because they're actually a huge fan

And they watch our content in fact put the spot this I'll send it to you was blown up Uh, don't put it on screen this time. Don't recognize the name, but sure. Oh, yeah. Okay. He's been in he's been in your streams But I was like come on Um, yeah, it's a whole it's a whole mess like gas is weird Some gas is good Other gas is not as good. It's all I think the trick is that it's all within the limits of tolerance

But admittedly you are personal limit of exactly and and and that tolerance is um Not determined by but that tolerance is preset Going in when you say to yourself as this video describes I know i'm streaming this game right now. I know this is a different beast and I know This is a, um Uh contaminated

experience So but let's make the best of it, you know, you go you go in not expecting too much At the very least and and and I it's one of the reasons that uh when and walker comes out I've I've decided i'm not gonna stream. Okay. I'll stream it the first day And but the rest of it i'm not and it's it's it wasn't it's not even because of playing for the audience It's not even that it's because An mmo launched that first two weekend that first two weeks or three weeks Is actually about being on discord with all of your other mmo freak buddies

And chatting about it and having a good time and oh, I'll wait for you to do this and then we can do it together Yada yada when I was streaming it I could only stream for so long before getting exhausted And I ran into the situation where all my buddies had beaten it like four or five days before me And I would go into the discord and they had to stop talking right right right and that sucks Man that makes you feel like an asshole and this game in particular you guys and my other friends have talked about How the story is actually really good and worth experiencing properly As opposed to just like a passive nonsense thing while you do your dailies and enjoy the ride, you know

So like in a case where it actually matters in that way then yes Isolating it so that you can enjoy it properly in your own time makes a ton of more sense I'm calling it right now. I'm gonna have a nine day vacation At the launch of endwalker. I'm not gonna stream fuck off I get it I did uh, it's funny because there is like, uh, you know the the mitigating effects that I I attempted to Well not attempted to that. I still use are Ones where it's like I I still since I'm streaming and youtube recording effectively at the same time

Let's playing at the same time. I still do like try to upset the balance of 80 chat 20 game attention By forcing it to be a hey, by the way, just so you know, I'm not going to necessarily acknowledge you for showing up when you come in and things like that and Like as everyone knows it's I mean even right now as we speak it's a battle because The nature of streaming as a platform and the appeal of it is in the ability of people's

Attendance to be something that can be interacted with so Recording a podcast which is not meant for interaction while people are interacting recording a let's play while people can interact but doing it in a way that is not going to make it like Jarring or or or or unfun for people down the road is Cutting into what is naturally appealing about streaming and like I'm I'm fight I'm going against the grain and I'm fighting against like the thing that you're supposed to embrace when you use these mediums You know and I realize that it's it's fucking salmon going upstream on it

It's a it's It's a hard life. We live it's very challenging, right? Yeah I mean I did I okay. We're basically superheroes. I listen. I'm not going to pretend. I'm going to be very honest I hesitated On the retweet for a for a moment because I'm like oh did you because I did have that moment of like Like What if like there is that moment of like oh boo who woe is you who internet video game person?

And I and I did have that moment and then I went but The breakdown of what is happening while you do this process is really good here and I think Legitimately an audience member who shows up to watch these things You're not thinking about that. We've brought it up over the years many times Yeah, you just you know, we brought it up of many years over the over the many times over the years but it really does just kind of like it's like It does underline. It's like you have a vision or a memory of going through that starting tutorial area Very engaged in a very different way. You know I do it's and it's a whole unique thing

And it makes so much sense why not only are you attached to these characters But like you you hung on to every word of every detail and every doorway Was was remembered when you walked by a door that you didn't open And when you know, um, yeah, like a line of dialogue was was missed It was like, yeah, you were 100 focused and that was the only thing at the time But here it's a multifaceted task him describing it as 80 20 basically Basically super human basically basically it's it's it's See, I get I get around all that boo-hoo with self-aggrandizement

Of course because you can't take it seriously. It's so stupid what I'm actually saying and and and punch mom Told me to get around it with science because like I said, she brought the the the those those those two Nerd those two things to the table with the one about repeating Performed new repeating new tasks in front of a crowd and Like have the literally how your attention focus and skill goes down and it's whatever It doesn't even matter at the end of the day, but um It certainly does make me

like feel less uh completely Garbage and worthless when it comes to like Playing on stream versus on my own time And the difference between what my brain feels like in those moments God I forget what it was I forget what I was playing But I was playing and it wasn't like everybody could see it, but it wasn't on stream

And people were like, oh, wow, this is Pat's actually decent I'm like, yeah, it's easy to be decent when your brain can actually devote itself to the fucking dad It it and what's really interesting too from another's angle of it was um Okay, I'm gonna address you guys in a second. Hold on uh was the part where uh, you are Introducing let's say not live streaming, but when we used to record offline And even though there was no live stream No one there no person in the corner no fake monitor in your brain

You know that you cannot spend too long Going through this area of um Hades tower of flame Oh, yeah, because it's um, it's a let's play and you do have to get a move on You know that because you know that in seven seconds So someone's attention span might just like turn off, you know And and and or whatever the case not actually

But you are aware of like the timer in the corner of your head of your brain telling you keep it moving keep it moving, you know Like it's and it's a fun little thing and this is this is getting real in depth to it Um, so I'm in a very nice air conditioned house right now. I very much appreciate the cool air um I am doing a podcast with you my co-host of like 10 years And a friend of 15 to 20. I don't know And I've done four six hundred of these Right like a shit ton

um, I'm sweating I would not say I was odd like, you know 10 I wouldn't say that I feel stressed But I guess I am because when I finish this podcast, I'm gonna be drenched in sweat And I'm gonna be tired mm-hmm So, um

Yes, I remember the last time I brought up social facilitation because I heard about it In this context Um, I feel as if a number of folks were like, that's not what it's used for and the answer is no It is used for that and many other things. It's a very broad ranging topic that covers lots of aspects because of of functionality and performance of a task With uh

New information or with people working together There's a whole lot of aspects to this thing that are massive and one Example in particular that applies to what we do is Like when you do a rehearsed task Under pressure in front of people versus doing an unrehearsed task under pressure in front of people The olympian will perform better uh the

The person who's never played the game before will play worse Right, this is a part of the broad definition of the multiple things now It also refers to other things and I'm sure for those of you who were Aware of that you think of those other things too, but it does include this large encompassing aspect of it And that's a part of it that I've I found so what you're saying Is that I deserve a gold medal every yes That's what you're saying you are a champion here and the yurks dodson law That describes the empirical relationship between pressure and performance

Means that you are a hero that deserves Every praise heaped upon you Constantly I knew it. I I just knew it To move on back to ostensibly the the um Purpose of this podcast, which is usually video games I do have something else that deserves all of the praise that is heaped upon it And that is something that you should play one way or the other woolly and it's the new ratchet and clank game That thing is a plus plus

perfect It is there are no flaws to that game It is Super excellent. It is incredible Um like I got all the collectibles and then collectible number 23 of 25 Was infinite health and collectible 24 was infinite ammo. Did you say this was the first of the series you played? No, I've played some of the older ones back on the ps2

um, it's It even ends excellently with the with You know, I don't even want to spoil it. It's just great And it sucks That when I talk about man, everyone should play that new ratchet and clank It comes with the underside of oh man Someone's super mad that I said that because it feels like I'm rubbing it in Because they fucking get a ps5. Yeah

Just go get one just Just go get one is it a simple just like good platformer go or does it matter? Not knowing or caring about anything else ratchet and clank related. Oh, yeah, you just go right in it doesn't matter Just it has a story, but its story is 100 contained within itself And I need to specify. I know on not only do I not know I also don't care about any other game in the franchise You know what that's fine

Ratchet is a long backs and clank is a small robot And they had adventures before the start of this game That's about as much as I could like discern. There's a long long running villain that shows up And in most things you'd be like, oh, who is that? What's the backstory? The backstory is that he's an evil robot man named dr nefarious and he's bad Dr. N because he's dr nefarious Okay, that means he's evil Isn't anyway

Dr. N is also a crash bandicoot, right? That is crash bandicoot. Okay That's dr neocortex. I believe Yeah games games super d-duper ridiculous Excellent I can't Like I encountered one bug and I laughed and I reloaded the checkpoint and it put me exactly in the same spot and the bug was fixed Like that's that's literally the only flaw. I have to say about the game at all

Cool and could you believe that such a visually immaculate well polished game was made with no crunch Is that even possible? Isn't that crazy? Did they did they specify that? Yeah, it was uh That not only did they specify it. I got it double confirmed because one of the visual effects artists was in my stream And we were having a laugh at the expense of a certain somebody who says Oh, they probably crunched on it really to which our visual effects friend was like no, we didn't We didn't crunch on it

Why are you telling me that the game that I worked on That I worked on and you didn't work on Do you think uh games could have a little sticker on them saying made without crunch Kind of like I think made without dolphins platform holder I think the platform holder would never let it go 100 tuna no dolphins There's absolutely no way like sony or microsoft or nintendo would let that go through Because you see that on the shelf and you go what's crunch and why don't why doesn't everything else on the shelf also have that sticker If you went if you went to a butcher shop and picked up a can of something and it said 100 beef

And it had like an official sticker on it and you looked around and nothing else had it Uh-oh, you would go what the fuck is going on with this place? Yeah People might actually catch on To what is happening Yeah Hmm That's a damaging flex. Absolutely. That's a fucking

Yeah, yeah Because like like look at like just now without child labor Right on the box Yeah, right on the box. You know like uh-oh wait, what? If that's made without cha Like let's say let's say I get I get uh Dog treats for sankief and it says now with no human What

Why doesn't this have a sticker on it? It says no human meat. Yeah. Yeah Interesting interesting. All right fair enough Yeah, it's good stuff I'm gonna be streaming this week shocker I'm gonna be streaming uh something called boomerang x that devolver sent me a code for I'm gonna stream more mass effect and I'm also gonna stream uh monster hunter stories too In which I keep making the pun. I will definitely Gotta hatch them all ha ha and the joke gets worse every time

So come on by over twitch.tv slash pat stairs out for more of that high quality shit Okay, um, what about you man? What's your week? Yeah over on my end, uh, mainly strive right taking the opportunity to catch back up and uh make up for lost time, uh, which I did do and Uh, yeah, and it's been it's been that fun process of like Taking it from the initial like stages of just like pressing buttons having fun dicking around And now i'm like I said I like I brought out some of the notes some diving into some frame data Doing matchups doing what's the cool in this game round call training mode? So you can do you can set training mode to every time you restart the screen it can go round one

You know like heaven or hell dual one. Let's rock and then you can test out like round start interactions And uh That's been oh, that's yeah, that's been very informative because you can literally practice these these things, you know um, and and uh a lot of that which I can get into and I had some really fun discoveries Uh, but like one thing that is very pronounced and interesting is The discovery of the latency uh in the different versions of the game that's come out come out and uh come to our attention which it's funny because um

Uh, Reggie and I had a big talk about this too because like we played um Did like a first attempt like on the on like when it first came or not when it first came out, but like maybe like two weeks ago um and uh Like it went more and more so in my favor But he didn't have as much time with the game then he came back and we did another set and then he did like really really good Like if I can stop me, but I was also playing on PC for the rest of the day of that session last saturday and I had a really

odd experience with it because I didn't know it felt like something wasn't was just off You know and I and I couldn't quite tell what it was and I was wondering if it was a matter of lag issues But but it didn't feel like it because but but it was mentally. I just I wasn't sure what it was And I didn't want to and I remember I initially started playing with the 360 controller And then I actually like unplugged it and switched over to the ps5 controller to be like maybe i'm just

Feeling something different. Maybe it's you know and I was very unwilling and concerned about like making excuses for me Just playing like shit and everything being weird and having a hard time You know because like legitimately at the end of the day when you when you fucking you take an l you take an l

You know, you don't you don't you don't sit there and make johnson excuses over over bullshit um So I I just kind of was like, yeah, I don't know something But anyway, whatever played and it just I just had a really and like I won matches later I lost matches, but you can go back and you can tell in the episode. I'm really like having a weird day With the game you're having What I'd like to call

internalized johns You're smart enough not to say it out loud, but in your heart you're like But why though But what what is this? This isn't right? john and I think Like and so we ended up talking about it and then reggie brought up that there was um There was initial talks of a discrepancy because ps5 and pc Like there were issues that like you would get where if you put on v sync you you would increase the input delay by a bit

Yeah, as always, but you know used but he was benching that is like but but uh on console right now There is a bit more there is a bit more lag and and that like people are going with pc because of the the mitigation of that And I was like, okay interesting maybe and I was like that Could be the case because in that case it's not like i'm playing it one way Which is more responsive and then I switch over to a less responsive version of the game Uh, it was the opposite. I was playing it with that Like lag and then switching over to

That lag not and now you can't adjust to the speed It's too responsive. I was like what feels different and why you know It's interesting because like going the opposite way for just didn't didn't register. Um, so then uh someone who Did a great job and breaks these down on his twitter all the time and let me give credit where credit is due because um new dowels on twitter

Nigel woodall Breaks down a bunch of this stuff and goes through the testing process and just posts a lot of information about like yeah input lag in these games that exists uh from port to port And the breakdown of of strife on the different versions is that on ps5 You are actually playing with the most input lag um, so you're getting 93 ms, which 93.60 ms, which is which is about 5.62 frames, right?

And then everything from there Going down has better performance. So here's what's weird. Not only is ps4 getting a better a better input lag rate out of it But if you play the ps4 version on your ps5, you're also getting a better A frame rate or not frame rates here on the a better better input lag number on that Oh, so yeah, it's about 5.6 on ps5 if you play the ps4 version on your ps5. It's 4.9

ps4 itself 4.7 4.8 on the ps4 pro and then pc v-sync on 0.7 and pc v-sync off 0.68 so Hey, go fix that that is a five frame discrepancy between the two and That's not insignificant. That's you know, that's there go fix that now. There's also accounting for It's not mentioned here, but for some reason plugging in I think

Horry sticks they've noticed as well another Modifier like specific sticks create another modifier in the in the tests. So it's just a really weird situation because a lot of the time this goes the other way around um And it's very weird that like Here now people are having the discussions about like oh, shit. Are we gonna have to have a bunch of pcs for local? Is this gonna be you know, what we do because consoles has always been like easier way to go about this like

offline tourney life I have a solution for you right now You can fix this tomorrow Take the ps4 version the ps5 version and the pc version And increase the input delay to 100 milliseconds on all them Problem solved. They're all equal now. Um This is this is uh, uh, definitely like yeah, I think that's like please. Please do fix. Please do fix In in in near future. Um, I had I had

I I just I had such a weird time You know where I'm like doing things and I'm like even again even in matches that that were that went well I'm like it doesn't Ah, so that I basically I'm like, all right Well time to stay on pc and to keep like basically relearning there So I redid my rankings and I'm repracticing and I'm relearning and I'm kind of really going over everything again and getting used to reacting with the correct You know thing because I like there are moments where

like There's just again a little bit of a different feeling to like moments where you're getting Wrecked in the corner when milia's jumping all over your shit when chip is doing His alpha blade or his command grab and you have to react to the startup of him Starting to teleport upwards or backwards behind you to cross up or jump You need everything you can get on that. So, um

Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I'm taking the opportunity to to go over it and again and relearn because I was taught wrong as a joke It turns out Just six p it man. No matter what Yeah, and this is also something that I think like Any I would say that like folks who are like jumping into their first guilty gear ever Or like jumping into one of their first fighting games ever are Not going to notice this difference, um

it's particularly micro Microscoped, but it is the difference between A jab and not a jab because five frames is about It's that with that amount of time. It's literally about the five frames is a jab So I might switch over to pc as well I don't know it depends on if there's you can get a lot of matches there Because that's the difference between being able to jab that fucking dolphin out of the sky and not

You don't rely on on on um reacting to tozugeki I know you don't rely on it, but you can you and I have well, it's so so, um there's a discussion about prediction versus reaction and fighting games and um You know, uh There is a in between state

Where it is I am predicting with information that expects you to do something here All right Preaction was the the the term that was kind of uh used in I like that and it's essentially like I know I can't react to the startup of this dolphin, but I'm putting the button out anticipating the rhythm of it, you know Um And if it's the slow dolphin, he hangs out for a second so you can react to that but the faster one it's like yeah You're

Don't I wouldn't rely on that too much. Yeah, but this will help when when I when I say I was Jabbing him out of the air Or may out of the air It's literally like he's gonna do that fucking dolphin and then the instant the character state changes I hit the bus you and maybe I'm wrong. Maybe they're just jumping, but they're not because it's the fucking dolphin It's always standing in dolphin range And they have stopped moving for a moment because if if she's moving forward she has no charge But the moment she stops moving well now there's a charge

And now you just expect a dolphin. Yes, that's correct. Um But I but I bring this I bring this up because it's like I don't uh If you're someone who's again brand new and you're just you're playing fighting games for the first time and you're having Fun with it like You know, don't feel as if like uh, oh my my my purchase is contaminated. You know what I mean because Um I would say that's not the case. I you can still have tons of fun with the game

But this is something they need to fix and they need to fix pretty quick because for the better you get the more It's gonna be something you feel and for anyone who's you know High tower and above that are playing this particularly competitively You this is not this is like not even this a discussion worth having it's like no No, no you cut you you play the version that doesn't have five frames of input like for sure, you know Ideally I'd like to see they said they were thinking about getting cross playing on this They're one of the interviews mentioned it as a possible future development. I remember Because uh, this would obviously have to change before cross play happened

Right, you can't have you can't have some players fighting with fucking Five times reaction time than other players. Um It's you're not you're not experiencing the same matches. You're not experiencing the same game for sure um but you know Beyond that the the the labbing process has been fun. I've been I've been digging Trying to see what's out there and it's funny because like Twitter

is the new Twitter and discords are the new way to exchange fighting game knowledge And it fucking sucks because it's so decentralized Compared to the older days of like forum you know Yeah, it's I mean he used to go to srk and it was right there in the k or you go to dust loop and it was right there

And and thankfully dust loop is still there and dust loop still has lots of great shit for you When you go to those uh, the wiki pages they have the you know extended frame data breakdowns. They've got Discussions of match-ups. They've got like, you know the full um They got they got all the info you really need to just like analyze the character and see what's going on But as far as like tech goes and things like that Yeah, the the forums were the way to do it But forums have started to go the way the dinosaur unfortunately. So now you have you have

You know discords some private some public that you got to go find and in many cases you have a hashtag on twitter You know so hashtag gg st underscore and then like the character letters The character character code exactly and um that can be helpful, but it could also lead to a lot of like stuff that is You know for a lack of a better term like useless because like people that Don't really know The game that well or fighting games that well might think they have something on their hands, but it's not real

It's not handy. So there's no real But then you get you did used to see that too on the forums back in the days as well But you know there'd be a discussion immediately to be like, oh, no, that's not valid because of this is that or whatever and like I still I still vividly remember going to the srk forums and arguing for hours with ultra david about how they should fucking ban training mode from events And he was like, no man, they got under that spacing. I'm like, I don't give a shit. It looks like crap david and uh

Like that's the kind of shit you you get to not have immortalized in a discord server now fortunately Having a discord For a dedicated character Does give you a lot of resources and matches and all the things that an old srk forum section would Back in the day like you can find if you find a good discord for a character Then you can find a lot of knowledge um and communities actively sharing and talking and shit, but uh

Back in but at least in the srk days you could jump over to the uh Well, if if makoto is doing really well at one event suddenly everyone's staring at makoto's page And going like well, what the fuck is with this character? You can go see nah, man Discord discord's the way to go. You know why hidden tech? Let's go back to everybody not knowing anything. Yeah Let's go back to that fucking

Wild west nightmare discords. You have to repeat they're showing up to events and doing moves You didn't know we're in the game not a whole lot of players are gonna add Discord's for characters. They don't play Just to dive in and see what they're saying about matchups that you need to know about you know It's it's again the chaos of The the the modern social media era has affected How easy it is to get your hands on this information? Yeah, just stop learning exactly return to fucking monk

Save it Save it for what it matters um I want I want people to be pulling out secret tech out of their back pocket like it's an anime man Yeah Nobody knows about this mix-up. I've never used it. Do I have to use it now? It's only top eight And we're and we're also firmly in the in the time of like, uh You know, uh, uh, hey, that's a pretty sick combo you got there

Now show me on someone other than chip You know because everything is being done to flip chip at mass There's literally a little like a clip someone has of like sol versus kai in the video like you know, um So instead of reflecting on themselves, they blame the beast And kai's like kai's gonna like hey soul. I hear you got a pretty cool new combo Yeah, you should check it out it to full touch of death. It's like that's nice, but dragon install Show me on someone other than chip. You know, and it's like, yeah, there's shit where you see um

Even but even without chip on max max risk Uh, there's a there's some shit that got posted like yesterday or so where it's like sol does a dust and then has full meter and then does two drift roman cancels in the air and like drifts downward and just like Basically like mashes s in the air and then Oh, yeah, and then drifts behind him and then keeps smashing s and in the end he just does Looks like a mucous jump s like nine times and it's just a kill. It's a touch of death He's doing a little circle around. It looks completely insane. You know, um

But yeah, uh, uh, uh, all of that's really fun and also starting to, um implement and get get used to playing around with, uh fast roman cancels Right, so this is a really cool. Those are what that's what they used to be That's what they were back in the day romantic. You're moving. There's no Slow down here excerpt brought about the Like the matrix mode and I remember old heads were unhappy because they're like, oh, don't slow the game down that

You know, fast is good fast means you have to keep up my reaction speeds better than yours But then but that made it better for for new players, you know, and in this case it's like taking a system and going like, yes same inputs you have a A thing that used to be really really, uh, uh fast and hard in the older games And now it's much easier to understand and if you're new you can just do a big pop and it's raw and it's very obvious You're doing it and you can do some cool stuff afterwards But if you Cancel it before the bubble pops and just go right into the shit as if you were playing

Old-school guilty gear you get better damage because that bubble never hits the guy And you get better combos. It's I have this really torn experience with guilty gear strive right now I'm playing it maybe once maybe twice a week for an hour or two Maybe two three hours. I wouldn't say I'm going super hard into it But it's it's one of my like long-term rotation like yeah, I'll hop on and play some guilty gear And I've I've had such a great time with it and every most of the people that I talked to Have had such a great time with it and I'm torn

Because I talked to you and you're loving it and I talked to my friend Jim and he's loving it. He's playing soul though so fuck him um and I go on twitter And there are two very nice people that I like very much That I follow on twitter That literally complain about strive Every single fucking day. It's a lot

Every day. It's a lot Every single day and it's always like God, I wish this game didn't feel like shit, dude, and it's like man I like you it's a lot But you know you're allowed you keep playing it every day Loud to say what you want in your own damn house in your own front yard And if you show up, of course you show up to hear it. That's your fault You know and if the algorithm chooses to show it to you then that's just the way the fucking cookie crumbles

It's a lot And the worst and the worst the worst part about it Is they're way better than I am They're way better than I am so when I talk to them and like I'll DM them about it like oh I don't really understand what the problem is and they'll explain it to me and I go. Yeah, but I like it when I uh do potemkin buster and I are see it into the grab and Yeah, no, it's it's uh Exactly no, we're just we're just uh, uh, it's KOF 13 again. So you know as we as we ve- yeah, yeah

Isn't it fun to vape tweet buttons in real life? Yeah Vape vape casting we're vape casting right now. I love it. Yeah Uh Hey, these people I actually really like it's just I wish they were I wish I wish they would stop subjecting themselves to something That made them so okay. Here's the part of the video where he raises his eyebrows and makes a quirky face and goes All right, anyway, it's a lot of time from guilty. What are you? Uh the the uh, no, no, I want I wanted to also

Mention that like the whole resource thing is still um You can It's always been a problem where you know, we've talked about how the you have to go outside of the game to get the information you want and I know that um In this particular case like the missions are there for helping give you some knowledge and that's good Uh, I liked that mortal combat actually showed you really simple frame data on its move list I I get that that's the type of thing that might

You know like the idea is like we're gonna deter people and shit But this discussion is being had and like in many ways and max is weighing in and all these people are weighing in We're just like at the end of the day like you don't have to hide information to make it not scare people You can you can put it in there and people are going to go as far as they feel like going You know and I'm gonna have to I think there's I think there's one reason that they might be hiding information Which is if you put frame data in the game and you can see it and you put the hit boxes in the game Even the average player would go into training mode for a while and go what's up with five s

Probably What's up with that? Why is the hit box so huge? Why isn't the only slash in the game that's plus on block? How come it can hit me when i'm playing eggs plus r because he's main character privilege. That's why Oh main character privilege. You're allowed uh Yeah, the the the game resources do have one thing Which is replay

Because it's very early There aren't as many youtube and twitch streams to go Like heavy digging on there's tournaments. You got the usa versus japan 10 v 10. You got some awesome Recent events there was a levo And you've got tons of players that you can Tons of tournaments you can go watch footage of now But I mean when you want to like immerse yourself in like footage of a matchup or a character The replay mode is where you can turn for that and you can just basically go sort by celestial floor

Sort by the two characters and sort by my character winning And then just go watch some shit and see if it see if you you you like what you see Occasionally you'll all watch a video and I'll be like this this dude's just not like none of that's real Or the person he was playing against didn't know how to stop didn't know how to challenge him or whatever, but um The replay is still handy for like oh, shit. You can do that or this or whatever So watch your own pleat replays, but watch other other people's replays, too Uh in-game feature that like because you can sort by all that shit Uh might come in handy for you, you know

So just a shout out to that feature Uh Yeah, I mean honestly all I really did was was play strive so Yeah, that's it. Okay It's fun. It's a fun game for the next uh, yeah for the next couple weeks or so like schedule wise um Continuing, you know disco elysium as we do and uh, it might be a little sporadic as we as we go forward. Um, I got uh Things I got to work on in the background, you know, um

Busy life things also you got your got your 10g So Yeah, I got my 10g I didn't even get any side effects. I'm one of the lucky ones. I just felt kind of tired I'm uh, I Mine was originally scheduled for much later I've moved it up, but I still wanted it to be at the 12 week mark since that was apparently better efficacy um

Oh, I got at the I got at the eight week as soon as I could possibly yeah I I decided to go for to wait for 12 just just because again There's like that one thing where they basically went like well, we Don't know the in-betweens, but we know that the manufacturer recommends three weeks But the 12 weeks has shown better um uh immunity I um I was talking to the lady

and uh the the nurse who was gonna jab me and uh She's like, oh you do not like needles. I'm like, no, I don't really like needles, but uh, I don't care I don't care what side effects this shit gives me just jab me. Hell you got five more I'll take him and she looked at me like deadly seriously You do not want to do that. You have to go to the hospital. I'm like, what do you mean? She's like some people have tried to get Extra oh god, and it fucks you up dude Yeah

It's don't don't get extras. No that um That Thanos meme is just a meme Of like, you know, Moderna, Pfizer Uh astros in it just getting them all like Johnson or Johnson just like I'm gonna travel to cuba to get that cuba get me sputnik All yeah, like it's just a meme. Please don't do it for real Your body at the end of the day is the only human and it uh, you know, but anyway, um But yeah, so I finally scheduled an appointment for a haircut. There you go, which I desperately need

But I didn't feel that comfortable getting an appointment for it before I had my my 10 g's now you do so there you go So yeah, that's going to be coming up for me as well But um in the meantime shit's going to be sporadic and busy. So my schedule will be a little random here and there I I I'll let you guys know from week to week, but uh, yeah You might be some days might be missing as usual per usual and such but right now for at the very least where we're going big sessions on disco and um Yeah, you know finding game saturdays. That's how we do it. So Anyway

Is disco the best game? I mean we're talking contender Yeah, it's it's just We're talking contender Anyway, it's pretty good Uh, I uh thoroughly enjoy every single session heavily heavily

Especially um Especially now that like we're in a state where like I think this I think the character we're playing has started to Emerge I think the personality of the character we're playing has started to emerge. So Yeah, um I can't wait to fucking just again get back in uh, let's uh, take a quick word from our sponsors

Uh, do you mind if I take a quick break to use the washroom before that break first All right, um, oh Yeah, just as we were Making the transition over so yeah, you can check out of course the channel woolly versus for disco and fighting games and all kinds of good stuff and also um, I did a Little interview with hold back to block the best the bond the

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Hey, what if you buy a new one that costs $50 more and will slightly improve a bunch of things You didn't actually care about rotate the switch to face the front of the shelf Make sure it looks nice and shiny The new nintendo switch. Oh led has been announced and let's not like Let's be real here They added an ethernet port. Thank fucking god Wait, I shouldn't clap for something that should have absolutely been there originally thank fucking god

That's a that's a problem rectified. That's not a value add So Uh, you got the OLED You got the that is an upgrade. You got the ethernet Got a wider stand Wider stand you got the 4k No, oh You got the half step generation better processor

No You got the white neon red neon blue colors Yeah, the the white looks good. You got the white. You got the white. I think it looks nice Yeah, so it is uh slightly slightly slightly bigger, uh slightly bigger, um, what would you call it? Uh internal storage. Now, here's the thing, right? This is the discussion here I expected based on the time frame that this like Release was happening in which was like nintendo has been quiet on the hardware front for a minute since you know

They put the damn thing out I was actually expecting a like new 3ds style like like a major hardware improvement model kind of thing being released where it's like It's basically a newer stronger system that supports all the old games like that half step and the half steps

Are ones that you like I actually I'm like I can easily ignore this because I don't actually play the switch enough um For me to really need this and I always play it docked the ethernet is the only real thing here to bring to the equation But otherwise I can completely ignore this So by it not being an actual half step that makes it a better console with better storage or stronger or whatever It's easier to ignore

So I kind of on the one hand don't even mind that it's just a minor switch up for switch up for extra money You're totally right There's a couple of things about this that are super weird There's one thing about it that I think is absolute complete bullshit, but I'll get to that later It's really weird. They're not discontinuing the old switch

There's just this new one that costs $50 more Usually I would have expected if it doesn't have any real hardware improvements other than the screen This would replace the skew I would expect it to take it would replace it and then the old one would drop 50 bucks Instead of the opposite That's kind of weird like it feels like a bad deal compared to every other Nintendo revision ever And the the thing that

I think is actually complete bullshit is There is one feature That I cannot believe did not make it into a revision and it was the ability to use bluetooth headphones. Oh voice chat Cell phone on the desk. No, I just mean bluetooth headphones. Oh, okay Connecting like listening. Yeah, okay Like it's crazy to me

Also in the trailer they show a guy Phone on the desk playing split this has nothing to do with OLED switch, but they show a guy playing splatoon with his pals And he's not using the nintendo solution for voice chat with his phone He just has a four-way call on his phone That is sitting on his Fucking desk with on speaker phone implication and and that's how nintendo wants you to play online with

Fucking four-way calls on your goddamn phone Speaker, I mean look it was either it was either that shit or a quick shot of a laptop next to him running Biscord And he's got his headphone he's got one one ear in the headphone Yeah, the other ear is pulled back so you can still hear the game or the two headphone mix You know where you wear one of each ear, you know Yeah, it's I uh, oh they're shutting that feature down That's that thing's going away. So that's why the speakerphone was being used and yeah

Good shit Good shit Listen Bluetooth connectivity would mean Unlaw unauthorized peripherals connecting to your device You know, yeah, oh, okay There it is A headphone is still just a a wire going into a port

But this is an unauthorized connection So It's ignorable it's fine It's it you're right. It's completely ignorable. Uh, it's I mean it It's very interesting to hear that people were clearly told That there was a new switch coming out And they were told literally nothing

And that's where all the The editorializing got added where it's like, oh, it's gonna have a new gpu and it's gonna have It's like, yeah, you just everybody who said all that just made it up Just a hundred percent made it up But now, um Moving forward Um Smash players will have a reason to get extra angry at the people who have another net option

Put refuse to use one nonetheless Now your righteous indignation is extra righteous because they have the choice While they disappoint you Oh, well So Or or I expect some screenshots at tournaments to be used of a of an ethernet cable plugged into nothing Yeah, that's good See look it's wired

Where's that wire going? Into your ass fucker Stop asking me about it. Yeah Like I am relieved. It's like there's literally as somebody plays the Ha, let me restart this. I play the switch Undocked approximately zero percent of the time. Correct This new revision of the switch is $50 more And to somebody who's already owns a switch

provides zero value Like there's no change like if there was 4k right I would have been like well at least docked I can get a better looking visual out of the thing I literally just want to play age of calamity at like it would have been an above 15 Frames a second. That's literally all I want

But like how do you really want? Do you really want something running in 4k 30? Or like yeah, or like or like 4k 20 25 or 15 or dude, whatever whatever the fuck some of those games are I will play 720 30 Right now. Um, um, um, but like jump force of calamity is hilarious jump force 4k 20 fps Oh my god Oh, what a weird

Anyways, yeah, so that's that's that's what you're getting. But I mean, hey, like I said anyone who hasn't gotten a switch at this point um You getting an ethernet cable out of the damn thing you're getting you're getting you're getting that so go ahead now All that's nice But more than this new hardware rollout They also rolled out software with some improvements for example Um before when a patch would come through on your games

And your console was full You would be forced to delete your other games in order to make room for the patch Of the existing game that's already stored which sucks because you're like well It's not my fault that the game got bigger While I had everything neatly stored in here, but now I have to get rid of shit to deal with that um So they've patched it so that now you can fix that By deleting the same game that it's updating

It'll eat into its own space by deleting that game's temporary data Or rather, um temporarily deleting that game's data and then replacing it with the patched version So essentially it doesn't need to create More space and you don't have to go in and delete extra shit Which is nice when you don't have a whole lot of space, which you know, I feel like I'm always running up against the limit Again, this is like This is a fix not a add Like this is how it should have worked at the beginning and once of course you get this update and sign up for it

You will be automatically quietly opted in to google add uh stats for The eShop and your online account that go out right now google analytics are uh, it's going to be opted in nice and quiet so, you know What you want to do does that the last update? Yeah, that's correct So what you want to do is uh, oh my god Oh easy careful. I hit the wrong button

Uh, you want to go to the eShop go to your profile Go to your account info at the bottom of the page Click google analytics preferences and then click change and then select don't share So that you are not automatically opted in to The google analytics that are uh, that were not existing prior to this Update Unless you want to which is fine, so um

That's going down And then that's the how I turn that off Yeah, uh eShop do that on the eShop profile Profile on the not not account account info Yeah, um bottom of the page google analytics preferences Okay, it's not up there yet. You didn't update yet then Yeah, okay, I'll make sure to Fix that when that happened

Uh, right what else we got There's of course We already talked about audacity So it's right in that the audacity of that shit Uh, okay So this week was pretty fucking weird for Uh Yeah

For apex legends It they had quite an interesting week. Have you have you have you caught the news? I have caught the news a little bit. Okay So there's been an act of apex legends terrorism The apex legends terrorism has denied everyone the ability to play because essentially they've ddost Uh the game and they've hacked it to put a message up To anyone who plays apex they will now see a new content button that simply says save titanfall.com Mm-hmm when you go there

First thing you'll see is some folks going. Hey, we have nothing to do with the hacking of apex legends or anything that happened there however Something that's been happening in the background for some time now Is titanfall one has been completely unplayable because a number of uh people who are Very upset and had a grudge of some kind basically realized that they could Deny the they could ddost the game into not being playable for anyone ever completely uh

overflowing the servers And the save titanfall website breaks down exactly how they're doing it and how many different ways they're doing it And it's kind of insane because it's more it's a multi Headed it's a multi-threaded operation where there's like they're attacking from like multiple vector points so even if you get past the initial problem by like Like hacking your but by basically like editing your own game files to like not look for whatever is Stopping you which is in some cases an extra long username that's calling for a disconnect from the servers At the next level it's like every room is being filled up with a bunch of like spoofed players

Uh, which have like slur name accounts and shit like that And like there's there's multiple and then there's like messages with like kind of like, uh, whatever jargon and garbage uh being being Spilled out but it really it the interest it's interesting because the website goes through like like a seven or eight step process of showing you all the different ways That the people who want it to kill titanfall are keeping it killed and this has been Uh a known issue for a long time

But what is extra shitty about it is that considering the games are still on sale anyone who buys them is buying the ability to stare at the main menu and listen to the music because You can purchase a game that is completely unplayable Yeah, there's a thing this happens It's kind of funny because it's like respawn has a lot of um experience with this in that um

Call of duty games that are more than 18 months old also completely fall apart They become infested shit zones See, I would assume just cheating and rapid hacking would would would be the problem there as opposed to complete denial of an ability to play the game Yeah, uh, but I mean in the the end result is the game becomes an employable fucking piece of shit Uh, the the difference is whether or not you can get into a match and it's the fucking worst Conceivable match you could ever see Versus it doesn't even let you get into that match So the only ones that are ever really supported is the ones that are the most recent

So, uh, the the the short of this essentially is that titanfall one was uh, yeah it was hacked into becoming completely unplayable and uh, respawn has not responded and Acknowledged it ea hasn't acknowledged it and they've essentially just kind of left it in a dead zombie state um and Then Another hacker perhaps I guess fed up with that decided well of titanfall one is no longer playable Then apex will no longer be playable and then on july 4th made apex legends no longer playable Which then did uh, uh elicit an immediate response from respawn going they're looking into it and shit because obviously it's a

It's their active product and the whole thing is now, um I don't know what the uh current Uh state of the the story is as of this morning, but at least as of last night Uh, they were they were basically like looking into More or less fixing apex, but I don't think there's been any acknowledgement of the save titanfall Aspect of the story and the save titanfall people Again themselves are like, yeah, we don't know who did this hack and we are not the ones behind it and um, you know They want titanfall saved without necessarily like

Denying apex At the same time, but um, yeah fucking wild story here and titanfall one is uh It's worth it's worth saving and playing If I yeah, uh, they're not gonna do shit if I might surprise you with my takes here There's literally there's literally zero percent chance That they will do anything about this

Other than in a couple years when if titan If titanfall 3 does happen They'll be like look It's playable like in a in an interview Um, I do because we made a new one. I do I did get the the the word I remember when word on the street was coming in that titanfall 2 was being attacked as well. I do remember that Um, yeah, and I'm seeing someone here saying that apex was still playable

The hack was benevolent benevolent all you had to do was back out of the menu and re-enter the game But I've seen a lot of people reporting about their inability to play it So is that perhaps just people not knowing that part of it or is that just not true? Oh, who knows Not me. I don't know all I know Is that my dog loves titanfall and he's very upset. No, uh Yeah, no, they've abandoned it. They don't care Like uh ea

And steam and ubisoft like this is a known problem And the refund policy has luckily been implemented pretty pretty much everywhere So it helps with this, but don't gladly sell you games don't work anymore. Yeah, that's fucked up. They don't that's fucked up They don't check That's that's that's super fucked It used to be way more fucked when you would buy it and you'd be like I want to refund this doesn't work and they'd be like lol Who cares I mean once upon a time there was no digital storefront and you would buy it physically off of a shop that

Just kept it up there forever And then you take it home. Yeah, and then you'd go back if it didn't work and they'd be like lol Get get out of my fucking game stop Ah man this uh this world of of of I mean, this is one form of like you know

obsolescence of a game if it literally just stays in the dead forever as long as It's hacked to shit But like the other version of this we're like, you know games come up for a limited time mmo's and shit like that and then like It's like now they're gone forever and there's nothing you can do and it's up to a bunch of people to basically hack it back into being playable um is some fucking like It's garbage man. I hate that aspect of this new digital era And the the save titanfall website mmo's got really weird with it

And the save titanfall website actually specifies too that like they did say that they're like um the players Can hack the game To run like it would be possible to coordinate a like Um a player run server where they hack it to basically be their own things separate from the official accounts And they could go with that whole initiative But they want it to be officially recognized and fixed because that like because it it still kills the community To have to create your own alternative place to go in and play it that anyone who's new doesn't know about and won't understand

It's a shit show So I think I imagine I just fix it like as a last A resort if a certain amount of time goes by and like they still have no fucking Nothing to say about this eventually people will get together and pull a city of heroes and just kind of like run their own you know Player if they're if they're not going to fix this then it is absolutely the moral prerogative of anyone who has the ability to rip that game apart

and get a pirate version of titanfall 2 at least running right now So that people who want to play it can Because currently it's a brick titanfall 1 as well, right? I think it's The game if the game doesn't work no more It just feel free to make a version of it that works Not that not that it's likely but you know for the random People that stumble across it and might want to give it a shot still sucks that there's like nothing there, but

You know, yeah So that went down and then uh We had this one which you're probably going to be a little more Experienced and well versed in the implications of this But konami and bloober team have announced a strategic partnership deal and The effect of this is that bloober team is probably going to be working on Oh, shit

Okay Hello, hello Hello Uh, that was fucking weird. I thought discord crashed and then it didn't you're still here I'm still here. Where are you but I don't see you anymore the fuck what? Oh some okay the computer exploded Hold on a second What the fuck that okay, oh, that's a weird one that's new

All right, you're back Do you want to take a two minute so that we can uh fix the audio and Hold on wait Did the new audacity explode? Oh no Not mine. Oh no the new audacity The dark audacity the dark audacity Okay, what happened

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All right, so I face-palmed at bloober team and then I died apparently yes Continue to tell me about bloober team bloober team Uh, rather so it has agreed to work on silent hill uh for konami And uh, apparently they don't like us talking about this because uh Shit's getting attacked

but They made the medium Now, I don't know that much about the medium. I believe you mentioned it Um, I did But I did hear what you told us about it And then I did read a little bit about what happens beyond the part that you talked about You did yeah Did you?

Yeah So how far did you get? Uh, I got about three hours in I want to say and uh, then I was like, hey, uh, this game is terrible Uh, and then some people in my chat were like, hey, you don't even know How bad it is because the game's message is like evil and I'm like, what do you mean? And then they told me what the the game's like The medium's message ha ha is um

And it it's like It's like a story that's like bordering on immoral. Uh, so I believe it can be summed up in two sentences Yeah, you can't save everyone And it's all your fault Mm-hmm, that's It's what I heard here So Uh, the the the take away that I can go in one sentence

Uh for the medium's message Is uh victims that can't go get over their trauma should just kill themselves That's is that game's actual message that sounds about similar to what I okay, so Over the course of the last 10 years Uh, we've used a whole lot of audacity and we've gotten used to it and what works and what doesn't work and we've learned its intricacies It seems that the process of switching over to a different program Uh removes all of that confidence and understanding of the the software that we've been using And this doesn't fill me with good feelings

Uh, I don't like the idea that I don't know enough about dark audacity To know whether or not it's going to explode my computer and kill it Midway through a recording But it did recover the file So that's cool Oh Jesus christ, you know what maybe russia can just have my fucking data Ah But woolly what about your plans to kill the prime minister?

Are you sure you want to say those out loud so that the cops can have them? I mean look man the the the The audio laptop next to me over on the um The the tv side is not literally not connected to the internet. So there's no data to go anywhere. Anyways smart I only got audacity on it by usb stick, you know, that's good. That's smart. So that's it's a prison Anyways, unless they come in in your house Anyways, we were trying to talk about the bloober team and why this story when it dropped was such a

A huge explosion of silent hill fans being really really upset because I didn't understand it and a bunch of people in the comments Were like, yeah, so new companies working on this name. What's the big deal now? Some people believed that kojima was secretly working on a new silent hill game because of some weird arg shit That yeah, that's insane. Yes, it is. Yeah, no the name of brain of farm animals not withstanding We fucking take a look at this game here the medium and apparently according to the summary

as posted on Twitter by someone who basically was like, let me take an opportunity to explain to anybody who doesn't know about the medium, uh, what it what it actual where it actually goes Uh, where was this? Um Bob bob vids on twitter, I believe uh Who explains that the medium Kind of if you're good, we're gonna spoil some details

It sounds like the the main evil force in the medium is, uh The a a a monster energy Well, not monster energy um It is an evil delicious. It is an evil monster energy an evil force which came out of an evil person who Uh molested children and abused people um in the past

and uh is literally a rapist And then that manifested into some evil force Which is the major antagonists. I I understand and that force then goes on to possess people around Uh the abuse victim in the game Or victim you have a detail wrong And it's an incredibly important detail

Okay, the monster comes from the victims Okay So then What what does this ending Like how does that what happens here? Well, the monster can't be stopped So the only way to the only way to deal with the victim's trauma is to shoot them in the face with a gun

It's the only way to get over the monster trauma And the the monster to kill the victim the monster comes from the rapist and then possesses the no No Okay, it's purely from the trauma And makes them all turn into like murderers and killers and and evil. Yeah, so The the the the monster child raper. Mm-hmm They're not really responsible. It's really the traumatized children

That are responsible for the monster And the only way to deal with them Is to shoot them and in their moment of clarity they go You they go the monster is still within me as long as i'm alive Then everyone will be in danger And yeah, so and then the and then the game literally says you can't you can't save everyone You can't save them. Nope. They got to go It really was the victims all along who were the real monster that's

Direct that's not I like I started that out as a joke And no, that's what the game is actually saying the victims were the real monster all along Now um fucked up beyond all belief narrative aside Was this the game's also a functional scary game It's also really bad. I'm boring. Well, well Yeah Okay All right

Like so like we went from like team silent making hot bangers To a bunch of weird teams no one had ever heard of Making like kind of trash except for shattered memories is pretty good And then now we're going on to like teams that have made games in the style of silent hill that were terrible Like it's it's just a downward slope all the way down Victim blaming evolves to Victim shooting

Yeah, there you go Do not put that as the title of this pie did not Think that that no that's not the that's no That's no Um, there isn't any other way to interpret a woman suffering from child abuse asking you to kill her and the game popping a chivo That reads eh might as well while overtly stating that she'll perpetuate trauma as long as she's alive Jesus fucking christ. Oh, yeah, and it's it's like it's wow Popping a chivo on top of it

Wow Yeah, okay All right That was the one with the anime hair on the cover right with the white hair a little bit. Yeah Silent hill It's good hands. It's good It's good It's it's it's up there

It is in my mind tied With the other worst achievement ever Which is from No You probably didn't hear about it because it's a shitty obscure game But it's call of war as the cartel. I've heard of that game. Yeah And there's an achievement called gangbanger Which is kill every enemy in the level

And it is Uh The only level that has that achievement And it's the only level in the game where every enemy is black How many points was it worth I don't know you could look it up Okay Okay It's good. It's good. I can I can you know what I'll look it up. It's good chivo design there

Yeah Um I thought we were I thought okay because I've mentioned before the um I think there's two actually in god of war if I'm remembering it's been a while But did they change that? Oh Update what's up The the achievement is called bad guy and it's during the gangbang mission and it's

You have to kill 40 plus enemies But I still believe it is the only achievement that has that Okay Um, oh it totally is Yeah, it absolutely is the only Mission that has kill x amount of enemies Uh Yeah, that's that's fucked

um It was a while ago when I so I don't remember all the details, but I do remember hearing about the god of war I think it was ascension and One of the older ones maybe was three The ones where you you got the chivo For like I didn't do it, but I wish I did or something like that or or it wasn't me or but Some the one it was and like then it was like bros before hose. I think was the other one

But it was basically like one of them was like stomping the fury Like beat the shit out of the out of the lady and then there was like a weird like thing with it and then there was the um The slave cage no door girl thing. I don't know if you remember that one I'm you know what i'm butchering this story the presidon's daughter. Maybe yeah Where she holds and then like that like a she like I think there's I've Again, it's it's been a while, but like Those things where I just come to mind with the like what the fuck are you doing with the achievements guys? Come on

you know Uh, anyway, uh, what was it? I'll find this shit. Yeah I'm seeing I'm seeing bros before foes for the Before for the for the the one where he he stomps out the fury, but The door one I feel like there was uh I feel like there was something like about like I it wasn't me or I vaguely recall something along those lines we're just like that's That's a weird flavor to put there

Even if it's and if it's like oh, I remember there's a discussion about like well It's not this member that like that's not it the dev that does this but a member of the team And it's like yeah, I remember how the achievements go someone on the team makes a decision after the fact It's not the same person who's writing the scenarios and doing the whole thing But either way it adds a weird fucking ass like Creepy tone to the whole thing but regardless um

Bloober team did they do anything else? Not to my knowledge. Let me go check I Will go check polish video game developer They also did layers of fear where they got accused of stealing all that art Uh and observer which I played through which was pretty good Let me just type in layers of fear plagiarism How the

Here's an here's a video How the blooper team how the layers of fear dev copy pasted their way to notoriety Okay, no the tree. Yeah, sorry the the the trophy thing was only for Ascension the other thing with the girl is the door stop was just a random moment. That's what it was, right? Yeah, it was awful Pretty uncomfortable Um, did you get any inklings of this in the medium so far as the first couple hours like No, it was just boring and kind of trash Hmm

Yeah, it's just just just kind of trash You want to play a silent hell game the sound silent hell game that you probably missed go play lone survivor That game's excellent. I remember you were praising it Yeah, it's just made it's it's made by the guy who made quiet mountain too Hey, sorry. I'm sorry. Sorry to To hear that the franchise that was dead that you like is still dead I feel like it's being like defiled in its grave Like what it what is the what is the ending of the next silent hell game need to be like

Fucking take your belt out and hit a QTE to beat the evil out of the demon child like what? Yeah, is that where this is headed? Yeah, I don't know. Oh man I forgot that You know anyway, whatever I forgot that last time that that god of war stuff got brought up some a bunch of people were like Oh, it's no big deal. Well, you guys are over exaggerating. It's and it's I was just like, oh, that's Like really like what the fuck guys come on. I don't I don't want to fucking

Anyway, y'all y'all some of y'all are are fucking weird with that shit and and and yep I don't there's not much else to interpret there If you can't see how that's fucked up On surface then I don't know what else to say It was an edgy your time. It certainly was But at that edgy time I was still like Really really weirded out by that Yeah

anyway Don't act like other games aren't super fucked up too fair, of course there are of course they are of course there are But that was a standout moment of a random Like woman being like shoved into a fucking gear. It was so weird and unnecessary It was it was like it was it stands out as a moment of weirdness like the whole tone of it Was just jarringly strange and if you can't see why or how I don't know how else to communicate it to you It's yeah, it's a it's an evident thing You you you were playing yakuza zero, right? Yeah

You know it was fucked up. Yeah, you remember when that guy just shot that lady for nothing Uh I might not have I don't remember which side quest It wasn't side quests part of the main story Oh, uh No, I think that was I think that was Might have been before Or I think I'm I don't I don't remember hitting that

Did I You you fought kusae in the sewer, right? Yeah Oh my god. Yes the in the club Yeah, right totally just shoot you for no reason. Yes, right. Yeah that that thing. Yes totally Yeah, the um, it's fucked up the Nathan Copeland test Yeah, right that thing yes Just we supposed fucked up thing in the whole game. Yep. Yep And no more heroes same thing. I just immediately first boss like wait, uh, what?

Why and like now they're in between you being used as lightsaber meat Like What the fuck? Super weird. I don't know it just You know and I say this like I'm like, yeah, we play like you play Mortal Kombat and you see fucking Brutalities and shit and that but it's context. It's all just context, right? If a random

Passerby is just getting ripped the pieces over nothing like like that lady in Jurassic world Where you're oh man, right? It's not about like it's it's it's it's the full context of the person And what's happening with it and behind it and why and what like is there anything at all? Like what was the point? What is this just because like that's where I Look sideways at shit like elfin light and I'm like are you just jerking off to the gore? because Yeah, because yeah, we are zooming in really close on these guts

And it makes it of this random unnamed secretary Unnamed character in the show. We're getting really close up in those guts, and I'm just like Are you supposed to be whipping it out here like what that's what tomb raider Is about you know, it's weird So yeah, I don't know all of this Context shit matters And if you again if you're arguing like for that like if you can't see how that's weird I literally have no other points except for like

All right, man. I hope you're doing well Because that's weird. Let's let's let's never hang out I hope you're doing well Man that was yeah, not great a bunch of people came out to be like fuck off god of war was not a big deal It was funny. It was fine. It wasn't and it's just like oh no It was not even intended to be funny. Oh, no Anyway, all right um

Yeah, blooper team. I don't know what to tell you man. That's that's I can't believe a script like that Got green lit and produced and put on a shelf and every step of the way It was totally okay. Um, that's fucking Like I want to believe that like is there some part of this that it's like up to interpretation But the way this is phrased sounds pretty explicit. So Yeah, um, I'll uh, I'll say this to you about that Usually when I describe a something in such inflammatory terms There is an army of people ready to tell me how stupid and wrong I am and that has yet to happen

Nobody wants to be the person defending this game Yeah Like I was prepared to hear like oh like I don't know. They got like other M. Samusified or or You know like just our our um, what's her name? Um, fucking Uh, third birth date You know or like just weirdisms like that But that's and and third birth date is pretty rough

But that's pretty rough That's one of the more extreme Anyway, let's get on to some better news. Do you got better news? Nope. Just some letters. Oh great Always good news in those If you want to send us good news, please send it to castle super beast mail at gmail.com That's castle super beast mail at gmail.com Is a third birthday the worst example. No, I would actually say the medium currently sounds like the worst example right now That's one of the single worst

Game stories I've ever heard if that's exact if that's how that plays out. That's horrifyingly shit And the game is bad and the game is bad. Yeah, that's that's kajian In its quality All right, who'd we got emails let's take one over here from Uh James says they're virtual wolves and pat tuber during last week's podcast He talked about possible sonic vtuber and then uh talked about mario Doing the same as well. I want to say this already happened

Um, there was a virtual rig of mario That charles martin a was hooked up to at nintendo store in new york city And at trade shows and I went out as a kid you got to go ask questions I asked him why do you always invite wario to mario party, but he never invites you to wario where? and uh It's a great question the model then switched to wario and he went on a rant about how mario, uh was The way hold on how about how you how he didn't need mario?

So that's pretty cool. They already kind of did this Yeah, so I spoke to I believe I think I was elie I spoke to and he described to me that like martin a came on for the voice of mario As a result of the mario 64 head like title screen shit Like you know where he was like a big floating head that would talk and stuff like that and On top of that, uh luigi's voice came about

As a variation of that voice that wouldn't trip the rig sensors So that he could do it and not have the mario head move So that's what luigi's voice is whoa It's the ventriloquist version of mario by charles martin a interesting I never heard that cool So mario is the first vtuber Like straight up this tech was already out there

Um, was that like 97? I gotta I gotta do I gotta annoy right now. I gotta I just I'm so this is a top. Okay I have to address the comment here. I'm curious because I I legit want to know Uh, don't know why will we fret so much over morality and fiction unless it's spreading a bad message like the medium I don't get the fuss so I just want to know I'm because I'm legitimately curious like For me it comes from a place where I'm just like I just wonder what what the point of writing that moment was or what they were thinking What was the person who was creating that moment in the game or the writer thinking?

Right, that's what I think. That's what I wonder It's that's about the beginning and that's the that's the totality of it It's like what was your thought here because if it was something really like creepy That's not good. Mm-hmm. And that's it. That's the end of it like obviously. It's not real But I think it should be understandable that if the person who's writing something that's just in there for no reason That's like weirdly gratuitous in a like Strange way. It's not the game's real world Confusion happening, but the person who put that there

What were they thinking putting that in there? What was the intention behind that? There's a real person who wrote that right? Is that not a reasonable question? Whenever I think about this, I always think back to the perfect example because we have the direct answers Which is why is quiet gutter titties out in mgs 5 all the time? right Kojima says it's because of the skin thing and the you know, and then the story says it's because of the skin thing and the But That's not the real reason the real reason you can actually go back to an earlier in from an interview

And it's Kojima's like I want to see a bunch of chicks dressed up with the teddies out at a cosplay convention And you're like, oh, okay. That was the real reason. That's really simple. I don't know why you didn't want to repeat that in the future sure Right, you know or no one can fight you want it Or go full yoko taro and ask him to ask them to send you zip files. Just yeah by all means And and so there's like, you know when when a story goes a certain way You're like it's interesting to wonder like oh, what do you think the the author was thinking about when they wrote this or whatever? Uh, I have had to run this little conversation around and around and around and around as I've gone through multiple yakuza games

And I talked about characters I talked about what the game is saying and like my answer is really simple. It's interesting It's interesting to talk about The different points of view that the characters or the developers or whatever have when they're making the thing Even especially if they don't align with mine It's an interesting thing to talk about. I mean, I just find that like there's these moments where like yeah like a rent Like surprising amounts of people when sometimes when this type of stuff comes up like run defense in a weird way where it's like

I get that it's not a real thing but The motivations as to like what the point of this is are still something i'm curious about And i'm gonna bring up if it strikes me as like well, that's that's fucking like what like what was the point of That that elfin light gore. What was it like? I would like you know what it was Yes, but do they know what it was and are they secretly like Hoping that it's not or pretending. It's not. I don't know You know, but it seems like when I beat weird

When I when I beat disco elysium That was one of my favorite parts about it was that almost every game is like afraid to like Say something like actually say it And in disco elysium You're like stop saying it like it's like every single line of dialogue is like It's like I feel like i'm talking to the author Like if like I can't get away from it

Like people who hear me say this and get really annoyed and decide like fucking woolly and his weird video game moralism or whatever like I not to straw man, but like it really It's it depends on which instance because clearly we can see the the the medium is Fucking it's beyond fucked in this way But like, you know, I remember I had this discuss like i'm talking about elfin light because it's such a clear cut weird one Where elfin light is great. I saw somebody Yell out it didn't mean anything woolly and when you were talking about elfin light and it's like no No one believes that

Nothing means nothing Because they put it in for any reason even if the reason is simple as I think gore is super cool Like if you want a nut to the gore the nut to the gore like and say that and Be that and that's what it is, but that's probably gonna make a lot of people be like That's worrying so Then we get a weird in between thing of like, okay Well, it's not obviously that but and then this is the other part too Where I bring up the camera and then some folks get mad because I bring up the I talk about the camera, but it's like when it's

You know, it's like when you make a direction choice Here to show the yeah So the motivations as to why you choose to display and do these things and put these things and write these things in a certain way Like, you know, who's fault this is You know whose fault this is really like genuinely It's bad English teachers Because I remember the way that we learned how to dissect stories in English class

Was to go over every single line of fucking dialogue and go and ask the kids. What did this mean? And you would go I don't fucking know. I don't know why the author wrote That their fucking shirt was green. Maybe their shirts just fucking green And your teacher would go no, but what did it really and like the teacher didn't know either They were just like forcing you to be introspective, but it causes the opposite reaction Where you grew up just fucking pissed off and frustrated that like not literally every detail has to mean something Some of it can just be stylistic Some of it can just be the cut of their jib, but when it's a specific or thematic or large part of the thing

It's unlikely that it was just put there to be there Okay That makes sense. You play metal gear song and there's a moai head in every room in the game Right All that means is that kojima thinks the moai head looks cool. Right. I don't think there's a secret message But when when snake spends a 45 minute Discussion talking about how terrified he is that nuclear waste is disappearing from storage facilities

That probably means the team is worried about that topic. Right. Okay. No, I follow that's a pretty Yep. Yep. In some cases. It's just what it is that makes sense That being said if I encounter I just saw somebody says it means the gradius was tight. All right You know what you're right because gradius is sick when I'm playing everyone should play gradius Those games are classic and and when the gate when I'm playing the game that has the girl murdered in the doorstop Gears for the purpose of just holding the door open and we move on being Big and edgy then it's like if it's just meant to be cool then I go for the edge

Then I guess it then I look at that and I go. Oh, that's not cool. That's that's a fucking I I promise you're not We in this discussion Have spent more time talking about it than any of the devs that put it probably probably I would it was only and if it was just like the the like say it and move on bit um If it went oh if it didn't go over with such a tumultuous Uh reception every time this topic came up It would be more than fine to just leave it alone

But the level of amount of people that are like nah woolly you're and I'm like, okay. No wait What am I missing here? It makes me really want to know so that makes sense It's just that don't think too hard about it. It's edgy and cool and I'm like, all right. I find it's creepy but that's that So every every time that comes up It's really simple because the people who go it's just edgy and cool You can take two paths. You can say, uh, there's actually a more complex answer Somewhere deep in the author or whoever's head or the person who put it in there

Also thought shut up. It's just edgy and cool Yeah, and there was no depth to their idea at all and Whatever x percentage of the time the person who's like just thinking shut up. It's edgy and cool Also has a boner. Maybe I don't know sometimes wiggle your big toe Just wiggle your big toe sometimes shut up. It's edgy and cool and My pants are tight. Leave it alone. We move on just

Just when we're gonna be in that car and death proof Make sure to have that girl's whole ass leg outside the window with the camera three inches from her foot Don't read too hard into it. It's just a weird way to drive a car. Don't we're too don't read too much into it Wongo says hey woolly and pat going through the older clips of the podcast I noticed that you constantly refer to the mgs1 version of gray fox Uh as his title card name cyborg ninja I found this interesting because you're the only people both online and offline. I know of that do this It seems everyone refers to him as gray fox regardless of which version they're discussing

Curious what your reasons are for doing this and are there any other instances of characters being referred to in a very temporary pseudonym socially rather than by their more generalized name Metal Gear Solid was the first metal gear game I played so when he came up cyborg ninja That's the name that ingrained itself and then later he became gray fox But he was still the cyborg ninja exactly gray fox and as and I believe that's how he pops up That's the literally the the title that pops up in the game. Whereas if you had played metal gear uh two And you would have been like oh, that's gray fox Then later when you find out that it was actually gray fox all along. That's what we saw. That's what we were introduced to

That's the first thing you you you encounter him with and then that just stuck and then later on it's other things But yeah, that you know Um Also, I think for the same reason I call Olga Olga and not cyborg ninja too Yeah, because you meet her first as old there's Olga first And then she becomes cyborg ninja and then Later you're like, ah, I was old here. We are given an opportunity to say cyborg ninja again But this time around it goes the other way

so Yep ironically enough I literally have never called riding a cyborg ninja. He's been riding because he's riding He feels the despite the fact that he is the third incarnation cyborgists Ninja that there ever was so the answer is whatever you introduce the character as Is who they're going to be going forward no matter what else happens to them? In quick speak anyway, uh, all right and one more um

From Mike saying hey william pat to get to the point Uh, are there any fighting games out there that give you a same or similar freedom of movement as smash brothers? Um, what games have the most interesting movement systems in your opinion? I've messed with a few fighting games over the years and I've bounced off of them because they're too rigid for the way you move I like smash because of its variety of movement options double jumps dodges di and recovery, etc Uh, when combined with the ring out style format It also makes the strategy of stage control feel more fluid and dynamic to me I did in joe soul caliber 2 a lot, but uh, I never had the urge to keep up with the series

I has I have with smash It feels more restrictive even with the 3d space to move around in Um, I know you have a lot of rivals of aether So maybe there's an arena fighter i'm ignorant about you can recommend rivals of ather is probably the second best smash, uh clone The the only one I can think of um The first best the zone of the enders 2 versus mode That counts the first best smash clone probably being smash ultimate. Hey, oh

um That's good. That's really good. That's good. That's a Tekken game now Uh, I think favorite movement options in fighters for me to get really Uh, extreme with it I'm gonna say Gundam extreme versus maxi boost on

Gundam x versus m bond The movement in that shit is fucking crazy and It's like all the cool shit with the movement in virtual on But expanded upon and juiced up to the nth degree. It's wild Um, I'm gonna I'm gonna put that probably as the most extreme And like fast paced like left right up there like three dimensional

Insanity like you're moving like high speed Gundam's do in the anime. Um I put that at probably the top Uh Superdash makes dragon ball look like the movement is more fancy than it is But you have very little control over that. Yeah. Yeah But it adds to the spectator-ness of it, but you're just you're you're you're not controlling any of that aspect Um, if you were that'd be fucking insane. It'd be like, yo, they're locking on from super far away and Whatever that'd be too much. Yeah

But as far as fighting games go, uh, yeah, uh m bond x versus All right All right, we did it podcast in the bag enough for me Goodbye everybody