Castle Super Beast - CSB 127: Mega Rich Light Bending Furry

Episode Date: July 20, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 For more surveying, visit www. peerseSHE.com Hey, hey, so when are we going to start the podcast? No. Oh God! Oh no! Hey, what's up, man? All good. I, uh, I definitely said intro, and here we go. Yeah, yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Cool, cool. I'm doing a bit. Okay, um, you know who else is doing a bit? Valve. They're doing a huge bit. Are they? They're doing a bit. What, what bit are they doing?
Starting point is 00:01:21 They're doing a bit where they, they're doing a bit where they're pretending that they'll be able to output the hardware amount that they would like with this, but with the steam deck. I'd be pleasantly surprised if this went differently from the controller and the steam machines of past. Like, I think the bit they're doing is they're pretending that they're going to support their hardware at all. You know what the real bit is? The real bit is that Valve is releasing the Switch Pro. Yeah. Like, it's such a weird thing because like it's, it like on, on surface on paper, it's like a, like, oh, yeah, that's a cool little bit. That's a cool little device, right?
Starting point is 00:02:17 But like everything about it makes me feel bad. So the base version costs $50 more than the Switch OLED. So I'm like, oh, holy shit, you could have totally put tons of juice in that new Switch and still had some kind of margin and Nintendo just was like, nah. And then I'm like, oh, cool. Steam deck seems cool, except the part where I've held the steam controller. Yeah. I've held one in my hand. So so this is this is the the overall feeling I had as I was reading about the announcement of the steam deck was, OK, yeah, uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:02:57 And then and then like getting to the end of the breakdowns and such and kind of going like, OK, no 1080p, it's going to be 720. OK, we're looking at a 64 gig internal on this on the cheapest model, which is ridiculous considering the size of most modern PC games and that are AAA. So like you kind of hit that part and you're like, yeah, there's this is this is ridiculous. One call of duty game laughs at your entire internal storage. No, call of duty games are like hundreds of games. That's what I said. It laughs at your entire internal storage. But like, I mean, shit, there's plenty of games on my steam list that I would ostensibly want to play on that.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Yeah. That you can't a Witcher can't fit on there. But that's and that's so that so that that makes the low end model like size a joke unless you go and you get the expanded an SD card, which is a terror, which you can get up to a terabyte now, which, you know, it feels like you pretty much would have to do if you're going to be playing like that bulkier games. You're going to get a if you're if you're playing a bunch of indie games and small things that are light and breezy, then you'll be fine. But that one terabyte expansion, probably a must that you get the next one, which is two fifty six. And it comes with faster storage and a carrying case for one hundred and sixty, sorry, one hundred and fifty bucks more. And then there's the five twelve, five twelve, which has anti glare glass.
Starting point is 00:04:40 So I have to. So to be perfectly honest, like all of that is like, oh, yeah, this is the this is the switch pro that's actually being announced. And at the same time, there's these issues. But a bunch of that shit, like to me personally means nothing. When I saw this, the number one thing that I was like, even if this is all airtight, the number one thing is is the name valve and hardware. And the fact that I'm like, yeah, I don't on a hardware side of things. I don't trust them to be able to do this. I just, you know, that's that's very that's a very nervous name to put on your hardware.
Starting point is 00:05:18 I find it. I have like four or five different things that just leap out at me as troubling, right? Number one is I've held a steam controller and these are being sold before people can touch them. The index was good. Okay. All right. Fair enough. Yeah, I completely did not touch the index.
Starting point is 00:05:41 The index is also like $1,200. Speaking of, hey, woolly, would you like to inform our our non Canadian audiences? How much the fanciest of the steam decks costs in Canadian dollars? Oh God, I didn't even do the translation. It costs $933. There you go. Yeah. So I'm thinking, right, when I look at this, I don't care about my switch on docked at all.
Starting point is 00:06:20 So the screen, the resolution, the fucking any the battery, the fucking store, like all of that does not mean shit to me because my shit stays firmly planted in its dock. That's pretty much how I would use something like this if I were to get one. What immediately stood out, the first, like scrolling through it was just like, this might be the answer to the strive tournament problem. Yeah, no, absolutely. That in this hyper specific use case, it's crazy. It is good.
Starting point is 00:06:54 And the timing of that was not something that was only apparent to me because not only were every other was every other to talking about the exact same idea, but the promo art, the promo screenshots for the steam deck literally have one where they're playing strive docked with one stick plugged in and a hitbox plugged in. So they're like, oh, it's almost as if someone is listening to the Twitter conversation going on right now about what to do about the guilty gear strive PC tournaments, you know. And by all almost as if it actually means they listened to no one while making this. But it's that screenshot made everyone tilt their head sideways and go, huh.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Yeah, I'm sure the the choice of the screenshot was actually in response, you know, but so so some really tests are showing that I think they're looking at one point five frames of input delay off off of a car off of a docked, you know, standard steam deck. So that's still a significant decrease from PS4 and PS5 consoles. So that is still pretty good. The the, you know, so that sounds feasible. What they would have to do is find a way to a secure it like they do with switches so that like no one can just grab one and run away in the middle of a tournament, you know, like
Starting point is 00:08:24 tether it or whatever wire wire it into the table. And then to you'd want to have, I think Arturo was saying it would need a USB hub to power people's converters as well in case people come with sticks that are like ridiculous or it would, you know, you can't just use the default USB C dock a port for that. But otherwise, the and then the third thing, of course, is the TOs would have to get their hands on enough of them to make this work. Yeah, that's not. That's not going to happen.
Starting point is 00:08:59 I can't imagine how I can't possibly imagine how that's that's just not going to unless some ridiculous sponsorship occurs. I don't see how all these majors are going to be like, yeah, we'll take 50, please. And then somehow I'll actually get that. Yeah. So it's a potential solution. But there's a bunch of asterisks. So it's not.
Starting point is 00:09:26 It's also got like, I think the longest term problem is that it's its place in the console or handheld market or whatever is kind of unique and has problems that pretty much only it will be facing. So it's a little baby computer instead of a handheld or a console. It is basically just going to be running steam games through Steam OS or whatever. Hopefully not big picture little baby computer, right? And you can plug it into your TV. It's going to be big picture.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Yeah, probably some variation of it, maybe some custom thing. The difference is that you're going to run into the same problem that you run into with a gaming laptop, which is two or three years from now. Hey, all new games run like shit. Can I upgrade it? No. Oh, cool. You bought a $933 handheld that will become outdated because people aren't building games for it.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Yeah, you can just play existing games on it. No, I think I think this is a purchase that like needs to be made fully aware that exactly this is not a console. This is a set PC in the middle of an ever growing market and that you are committing to a time and place in this market and that you're not going to be able to upgrade that. You know, you have to you have to absolutely purchase it with that in mind. Like they're they're selling people a thousand dollar box so that they can play indie games on it. Now, that might be what some people want and that might be what some people need for their particular purposes. If you are looking to not play every AAA and like and and basically play a bunch of indies and, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:32 let's be real, probably some emulators and some shit like that, you know, Yeah, you should get a switch. Then well, unless those games are not unless those games are not playable on it or whatever, I don't know. There are some people that like probably can be fine with the games they play. I know personally, I don't play a bunch of major triple A's on my PC period. So my game selection would probably be be fine with the hardware and the storage over time. But overall, again, it's also people that want to play these things on the go. You know, I wouldn't give a fuck about that at all.
Starting point is 00:12:08 I would absolutely treat it as a docked just mini set piece of hardware. If anything, I like that that part is you would be like the dumbest person in the world if you bought one because then the argument goes, why don't you just put like $900 into your existing existing computer? Exactly. Right. Or two consoles. Or, you know, or right. So it has to be for people on the go. And doesn't even have bells and whistles and lights and lasers logo on it.
Starting point is 00:12:42 I watched the Vita die a horrible death. And my takeaway from that is that the average person doesn't want to play a big ass triple A prestige mega video game on the bus because they only have 10, 15, 20 minutes. And most of the time when I carried my 3ds or whatever on me, I just ended up checking shit on my phone anyway. Now, the idea of upgrading your PC over time admittedly, though, is one that that's the best part of like going the PC route with things. And when you buy one of these, like, you would be buying it also aware of like the life cycle of a console because this would last the life cycle of a console. You know, maybe that's the thing is like, even though you're not upgrading it, it's going to give you the couple years that any other handheld or, you know, Sony or our Nintendo device would and then eventually it'll just start to run games that are on steam more and more badly.
Starting point is 00:14:12 It's a game based handheld made by an American company in the country that has talent agencies that deletes people's images out of Internet photos. That's going to do gangbusters. I do imagine that this doing decently would then want to keep Valve in this space. But I just again question like, so the index, the index was good. Where's the index available? Was it readily? Were there enough shipped? Were people able to get their hands on them?
Starting point is 00:14:55 It's still not readily available. Like, this is this is my question about like Valve putting their toes in the hardware market is like, even when if the index went well, it's like, can people buy them? You know? No. So, yeah, it's that it's. Hage wanted an index. She's never been even able to attempt purchasing one. Because the thing this theme controller, like, as terrible as it was, the thing the thing that saved most people is that they couldn't even get one to
Starting point is 00:15:26 find out how bad it was. People don't even know because it was very, very scarce. They'll never know. I bought one so that you didn't have to. Yeah. And then turns out turns out most of you couldn't anyway. So that that scarcity issue is always that's always been a thing with them, you know, but we'll see, we'll see. I certainly do hope that I want to see some tests run where it's like off of the expansion storage.
Starting point is 00:15:58 I want to see if like running things off of the the SD card creates any, you know, performance issues or if it's if it's noticeable or negligible. Yeah, I pretty much I'm squarely interested in this device as a as a potential tournament solution. And that's that's it. Yeah. People are pointing out that you can install Windows partition on it and just run anything that you could run on Windows, which I think that's pretty really clear or yeah. Okay, so it's not it's not locking you into into big picture as a. Yeah, you can.
Starting point is 00:16:45 It's the same. It's a I mean, it's a personal computer thing. Okay, you can install a partition on it. But the PC. Yeah. Okay. You have to to share your 64 gigs between your two games and your Windows partition. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's good. That's good. Yeah. Get some get some get some terabyte SD cards, man.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Just, you know, it will it will probably live on as like a super emulator. I remember what was the one called was it the FC 32 or GP 32 X the GP 32 X was a handheld emulation box essentially that existed for a while. And that did what it said it did. It was just, yeah, people just put games on that thing and it ran them. And this might be a crisper larger screen version of that, although the button placement is seems pretty fucking high seems high and wide but seems bad because they in order to get the in order to get the thumb touch pads in there, the gyro stations, they had to put
Starting point is 00:18:05 the buttons way up in the corners. So also, have you seen the size of this thing in comparison to other things? It's like holding four Vitas. I saw that it's heavier. I saw the weight was much heavier. I didn't see that. I didn't see the size comparison. It's like a heavier Wii U game pad boy.
Starting point is 00:18:29 Yeah, that seems ridiculous. One thing I'm curious about is you saw the feature where it's like rest your thumbs on the touch pad and then it turns into gyro. Yeah, is that going to be a conversion of mouse input or will that be an additional thing that the game needs to specifically support? Well, if it specifically needs to support it, it won't be. Yeah. So that's learned that from the steam controller.
Starting point is 00:19:00 If it just replaces mouse, then you're fine. Who knows? We'll see. I eagerly await for this. So steam is a little bit like Google with one key difference where Google will put out a product or a service or whatever. And then it'll be not successful and then they'll kill it. Right?
Starting point is 00:19:31 Valve is different. Valve lets their old projects languish and starve in absentia. Just steam link. Do you even still exist? I don't know. How about you steam controller? Want some crumbs? No.
Starting point is 00:19:53 No crumbs for you. Live off the community fucking configurations. So we've spent the last decade sitting down in front of microphones and cynically laughing at every flop and misstep that Nintendo and Sony make. Right? Yeah. But one thing you got to look at and realize is that for what it's worth, they're still, they're doing this video game console thing.
Starting point is 00:20:31 And all these other attempts to get in there have not really worked out. Microsoft is still hanging in there. And they were a part of this early on in the decade. But a lot of these other attempts are really not landing. They're not good. And I'm looking at the artifact steam page. It's a dire mess. And I honestly negative.
Starting point is 00:21:01 I wonder if the future we head for is one where there's pretty much no such thing as an actual new competitor anymore. If and if it's really just one where it's like this hardware will come out, it'll serve a particular small audience and it'll have its pluses and its minuses and anything exclusive will be what it has over the others. And then that'll just that'll sit in its corner, you know. Well, I've got good news for you, sir. A new competitor is entering the race.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Oh, shit. And this time they are going to flop harder than ever before. Soulja Boy 2? Are you familiar? Comes with braid 2. Jonathan Blow and worked directly with Soulja Boy on this sequel. That's right. Sick of being told that something will be the Netflix of video games.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Netflix has decided that they'll be the Netflix of video games. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. This is true. This is true. Damn. I was hoping to hear Soulja Boy laughing at how stupid it is when the guy jumps into the pit and then rewinds himself out of the pit. So did you I don't know if you saw it, but like they already did this with like some telltale
Starting point is 00:22:36 games, right? They put the Minecraft story mode in on Netflix as a like use your mouse to use your remote to pick your answers thing. And Bandersnatch makes sense. Bandersnatch exists as well. The Black Mirror Interactable episode. Have you tried or seen any of those? I have not.
Starting point is 00:22:59 OK. Well, I mean, you know, guess what? It plays exactly like games like Night Trap and Late Shift. It's just a, you know, it's like you have these moments where you're waiting for your choice, A or B, Dragon's Lair, Space Ace. We're just it's just that. It's just that it's just round two of those kinds of games. It'll serve its purpose.
Starting point is 00:23:29 And if the game is requires no input besides picking one or two or three or four on the screen. Yeah, that'll work. And it's fucking Netflix. So like there's another there's a million eyeballs for them to do this with. Like it'll be it'll be fine. You know, it'll just be a weirdly it'll be a version of the of a thing where like of the game where you watch a scene and then when you choose an option or press an input of
Starting point is 00:23:55 time, there's a weird black black loading moment and then it goes to your choice. So you just have those weird hiccups and that's what that's what they're going to be doing. They're going to be doing the game streaming thing. Isn't it going to be like what they did with Minecraft story mode and shit where it's like you just have this. No, it's going to be Stadia. Oh. Oh, well then.
Starting point is 00:24:19 OK. I know. No, that's not they're going to throw themselves into the bonfire. OK, well, let's take a look at this then. I right in there. I thought they were just doing the use your remote to pick option A or B thing again. No, the Netflix has talked about how their biggest competitor is not other movies. It's Fortnite.
Starting point is 00:24:42 So they're going to they're going to get in there. So they're going to put a controller out. Yeah. Will they? Is that what this is? Because your remote obviously is not going to do it. Well, I have a I have a sneak peek at how that's going to go. They have acquired a big name in the video game industry.
Starting point is 00:25:14 That's going to help them. His name is Mike Verdu. He's an he is a executive from an old video game company that they have hired as the head of new game development for Netflix. Would you like to hear Mike Verdu's resume? Yes. In the past little while. Obviously, obviously I've missed this story and I don't have the details on it. So by all means fill me in.
Starting point is 00:25:47 So Mike Verdu. Has worked at Zynga. He was the head of electronic arts mobile gaming. And he was the guy working at Facebook VR. When Oculus bought all those developers and then put all that anti privacy shit into the Oculus. That's a good CV. That's a good CV. So like I you know what I can't.
Starting point is 00:26:35 I'm not going to be able to find it. Did Mike Verdu work at EA mobile? I when like I want to find out when he worked at EA mobile. Because I want to say he was the guy running the ship. Okay. So the article I joined EA mobile in February of 2017 and he left one year later in 2018. The article I'm scrolling through here. That's talking about him and the upcoming interactivity on Netflix is explicitly using
Starting point is 00:27:19 Bandersnatch as their interactive model for what the rest of this is going to look like. And they're talking about that as a like as a look into what this might be with interactive content. I'm looking at a business insider article. That's the same one not going to be about making new games. So yeah. So scroll down to the part where they talk about Bandersnatch and the interactive stuff. Which is what I was talking about. God that this is going to be extra pathetic.
Starting point is 00:27:57 So what the fuck. Why am I being yelled at. It's actually. I'm not. No not you. Them. Then who are you talking about. No one.
Starting point is 00:28:10 So that says right here on the fucking article. Anyway. All right. Oh Michael Pachter thinks they'll fail. Okay Michael. I watched you be wrong every single day you were on a game trailers episode. I don't know how you get to keep your job. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:31 So to rewind 10 minutes sounds like it's going to be what they did with Bandersnatch. And you're going to move them out of the cursor around and select yes or no. As the game plays out in front of you. And you just. I don't think that's going to beat Fortnite. Probably not. But it already we know what that is now it certainly ain't Stadia. It's not doing a controller connecting to a server somewhere.
Starting point is 00:28:57 It's just a pick up pick a branch from a series of hierarchical choices for a game. Well that's more honest I suppose. It's more deluded. And it's also not a competitor to anything that it's not because yeah it's just nothing. That's you know it's a competitor to nothing like not even a competitor for your time. Okay. Well. Oh man yeah just not you know I'd like a wall of of of anyway whatever.
Starting point is 00:29:35 I just. I looked at this. I thought about I thought about Bandersnatch. I thought about the art about the the telltale thing and I went oh yeah this is nothing. And now you're right upon further inspection. It's fucking nothing. Yeah. Well anyway.
Starting point is 00:29:55 You say this is a bit off topic we're talking about idiot video game companies. Have you seen that Amazon games contract for working on your own work when you work for Amazon. No what. Is it another one of the we own what you make things is a Burger King. Yeah. So so Amazon and this is an Amazon wide contract. Right. There are people in our chat that have signed it.
Starting point is 00:30:26 It's an Amazon wide contract that says hey man you're not allowed to work on company time you're not allowed to use company secrets you're not allowed to use company resources. But if you do make a game you need to use our resources to host it you need to use Amazon servers you need to sell it through Amazon store etc. And we own it and we own the IP to it and we own the rights to do anything we want with it forever. Yes. The contract stipulates but if we make it it's out. Well the contract stipulates that we own the left side of your brain. Anything creative you decide to put to paper or to any device whatsoever any thought you have that is creative is actually owned by the company. I think this thing is so common at this point that it must be a simple legal like trick for just covering all their bases and basically saying yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:32 If worse comes to worse and you do some weird chip jump thing or you do some bullshit or you steal. Originally I remember it's like if you steal what our resources to make your own thing in secret. Right. Then we need to be protected from that. But then you overreach in this ridiculous degree. And I've had this with people I've worked on projects with where they're like yeah I'm working for a company. This indie project is not really going to like it's not technically OK. Or in another case I remember one time where like the person was like yeah their manager is just kind of like just I don't just don't tell I don't tell me about what you're working on in your spare time or whatever.
Starting point is 00:32:10 And in all of these cases I'm left with the feeling that I'm like you know if this ever went to fucking court any judge work their salt will go what the fuck know you throw this out. Did they use any of your shit specifically did they use any assets or any company resources at all. If not then what is this this is you know what I mean like so you can't own some entire fucking free time. This already happened. There was already a legal battle over this. And it was Bethesda versus John Carmack when John Carmack went to go work for Oculus. And Bethesda maintained that he somehow stole technology for VR. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:54 When he went to Oculus. Right. Right. Despite the fact that Bethesda had no VR development at all. In addition non-compete clauses do exist. And that's what happened to Patrice Desolée who Ubisoft. Hey you know how Ubisoft is evil. Nobody ever fucking forget how evil they are.
Starting point is 00:33:18 Not just with all the creepy sex abuse stuff but I don't know what their problem with Patrice Desolée was but they fucking drove that man into the dirt. They fired him off Assassin's Creed despite the fact that he was the lead and the creator. And his non-compete clause meant he couldn't go work for anyone else for two years. And then THQ gave him a game to make it was called 1666. 1666. I couldn't remember what year it was. Ubisoft bought THQ or the remnants of THQ and hired him back on only to fire him and fucking cancel the game. Which they now own the rights to.
Starting point is 00:33:57 And jail his ability to work on things for a couple of years as a part of that process. War. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like a ridiculous vindictive meat move from a giant company. Crazy. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Like petty corporation moves. Petty corporation moves are wild to behold. Cause you're like Patrice Desolée watching ran out of the business. It's like watching a colossus sized toddler. You know you're just like you're like this huge moving thing made up of so many parts is actually going out of its way to spite one man. You know. Yeah. Oh man.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Um so evil. I. What was it. What was the fucking game. Ancestors was it. Like. That that's the game he eventually did make. I want to say.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Can't can't even remember. I want to say he eventually made ancestors with maybe it was Panache Studios. I think is maybe the name or what he made a studio name and then and then that happened. And it was the game with the monkey men. Yeah. With the missing link people in it. Return to monkey. I believe but I didn't I didn't hear much or play it.
Starting point is 00:35:29 But for a long time there was all this like buzz about like the ultimate thing after Assassin's Creed 1666. Just you wait. Just you wait. It's going to be amazing and it's like it turns out all this fucking bullshit on the inside. Yeah. Don't don't make the mistake of becoming like a talented superstar game creator within a giant megacorp because ask Kojima. It turns out it never works out in the end. That doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Not even once. Like the only creators that I can think of that have maintained their ability to do what they want are people who crawled their way up either by somehow acquiring the IP rights to the popular game themselves or becoming part of the executive branch of their company like a Miyamoto. Yeah. You can't you. Become the company. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Because if you try and get rid of him he'll tell you no you can't. Yeah. Because he's probably your boss. Dyskate with our system works right now even like you know like you kind of become a part of this thing like you. What would they even do if he left. A whole a whole lot of a whole lot of Blazblue. Who would even draw the characters. Like I don't even know how.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Yeah. So so that that's exactly it is like you either have to when you either have to absorb and have the company be underneath you or you have to leave and make your own shit like almost immediately. Yeah. And if you if because there's going to be like a thing where you're going to grow within that company and then you're going to start butting heads with all of the higher ups as you as they get more and more clout. It's funny though because I know at least two high up executives that were one step from the top of their respective companies who had projects in the works that had their names on them in the public sphere.
Starting point is 00:37:45 And it would have been a terrible PR move to cancel them. And if the company wants you bad enough they will fire you. They will cancel all your games and they will take the hit and they will laugh at you on your way out the door. Sure that that doesn't doesn't cost them any ill will in that process. No all people would be really mad that their beloved franchise mascot was going to have three games and they all got canceled. But in the long run it's for the best sometimes. It's tough. It's weird in the in different cultures sometimes it's too easy to get rid of people and in other cultures.
Starting point is 00:38:40 It's impossible to get rid of people even though they should have been gone five years ago practically contract contractually impossible. Yeah I know at least one guy who's gone now who was promoted as punishment for failure on one of his games so that he wouldn't be directly making them anymore. And he was like oh no how could you have done this. How is Vancouver this time of year. I hear it's pretty nice. Well anyway. Folks as soon as you can own your shit. Yeah own it own your shit.
Starting point is 00:39:36 You know a bungee has made a lot of mistakes and I actually was on shy's podcast yesterday on her stream and we ended up talking about how shit destiny is again. But the smartest thing bungee ever did was when they went to Activision for Microsoft. They said no we own destiny you can you can shit on our deal no matter what. But we need the ability to walk away from this and keep the IP because Microsoft kept Halo and honestly that worked out for no one. Halo games haven't been as good as the bungee one since they left and destiny ain't no Halo. And it's not like what's what you what you can you can feel the moment to where like it could have been if it's what people wanted. You know I mean when you when you when you have to make the spiritual successor to something we now live in such a we're many years out from those those you know first forward gaming generations that established a lot of the franchises are going to be hearing about until we die. And many spiritual successors have come and done the thing and did it well and have become beloved you know.
Starting point is 00:41:05 I guess I'm just saying it's like it's when you when you make over the spiritual successor route and it botches it's just it's all on you because people are more than willing to. Pray something that's an amazing spiritual successor and sometimes it can even be lifted up beyond what at what the original was you know I feel like. I feel like the Kotor games were so fucking huge when they first came out and but Mass Effect has more of an impact on the industry. I would say so you know. Well anyway. How'd your week go. I accidentally deleted all my Twitch VODs. How did that happen.
Starting point is 00:41:59 I'll tell you how. So by the way luckily everybody who's listening. Everything except for that persona five thing is up on my YouTube archive channel so they're they're all there you can just watch them all there. And there's actually somebody who uploaded my persona five stuff without me knowing so you can go find that just type it into the thing. So. What happened was is that. I don't know about you Willie but every time I see the word DMCA or content match or whatever I get a sense of anxiety. I become anxious because.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Twitch is crap with it is like so much worse than YouTube's ever was like it like there's no there isn't even an appeal process. So I had played Cherno by light which I'll talk about in a moment. The other day and when I had uploaded the VOD backup on to YouTube I got messages that. I had content ID claims for a piece of music. In it which is the title screen music it's some old classical piece and I had watched a trailer for that Netflix Monster Hunter piece of shit. During my stream and that also got things so oh OK and I only noticed this once I had started my stream on Friday like oh I gotta get. I gotta I gotta delete that I gotta delete that right now you got those notifications from who. From YouTube OK yeah right and I figure oh that's a warning yes yeah I do the same I go to I go to click on you know click click on the highlight in the VOD.
Starting point is 00:43:44 I know it already uploaded so it's fine and then my brain said the upper right corner is where the options are to delete things. There's a trash icon but there's also this thing and I click on that and there's a button that says delete all videos which I said oh delete. And then it pops up a box that says hey no this is going to delete everything don't don't do this unless you click this box. And I went I gotta delete it fast and I clicked on the box and hit OK. And then on the screen it says so we're deleting all your videos this cannot be undone. And I went oh crap did you think you were deleting one video or I thought I was deleting the two I had selected OK. And it wasn't somewhere deep inside on the one hand just wanting to go away. Yeah on the one hand this is obviously my fault because I hit the buttons.
Starting point is 00:44:52 On the other hand. There's more security against deleting my FF 14 character than there is all my VODs. When you delete your FF 14 character you need to select delete and then you have to type in the words delete. You cannot do it in a rush you cannot do it by accident. And I know I'm well aware there are people sitting there going dude just read. I don't think you understand how anxiety producing this DMCA crap is. It's very stressful. But regardless it's not the end of the world I had to re upload my channel trailer and I'll do that shortly.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Well on the plus side you have all my archives are still there on the plus side you have a significantly lower chance of getting hit with anything. I guess however you clips probably still exist. Yeah the clips are there the ones that I didn't delete the last time there was a DMC scare. Right. Or I did that on purpose. Right. Yeah I hear you for me I don't get that feeling but I just take I since YouTube's detection is more helpful and informative. I use that as a barometer for danger with Twitch and anything that's in the risky zone.
Starting point is 00:46:30 I just clear out and when I'm when it's getting highlighted or so. And then we had a night and then I sat down with Min and Reggie and we kind of like took a look at like everything archived over you know the last while and we just yeah we went over them and actually like parsed out like this is the stuff that has of everything that's been uploaded. This is the stuff that's been you know flagged by YouTube and I get an email for each one of those things so it's easy to create a list of all the risky streams that we've done and then just go in and like yeah get rid of all that shit. So like the vampire the masquerade vods had to go yeah because those got blocked on YouTube for licensed music from the 90s. I mean the weird ones are when I do a stream sponsored by Twitch for like the boys and Mortal Kombat officially and then it's like yeah we're you're still putting some shit up that's going to be flagged and it's like OK. I hope you can help me with this people who are also the license holders you know. I'm seeing some folks say that Twitch can still DMCA deleted vods. I'm not sure if that's still the case mainly because I asked Twitch support to bring them back and they said no those are for real see gone forever.
Starting point is 00:47:57 So and I have that email saying they're actually gone and not there anymore. I did see I did see the thread someone posted a long time ago during the first scare where they're like Twitch deleted videos are not deleted. You can actually enter a specific URL to go back and watch something that's deleted. However that being subject to scan from the the bots you know that are scanning for strikes is a second thing entirely. They might not be looking through that those archived servers or whatever whatever it is that you're you're loading up to watch something that's supposed to be deleted. I don't know if that's going to be scanned for copyright. Well there's nothing to be done now yeah but that was my Friday. That was fun.
Starting point is 00:48:51 So the game in question that caused this was called Cherno bylight which I played. It's weird. It's you know Stalker right yeah like get out of here Stalker. So had to have to briefly test. I think the second one for like a second really you tested clear sky. No no no no no it was I think it was I don't remember we tested some. Okay it wasn't like I did evaluation on it so I wasn't doing the QA on it. I was doing the like let's see how to create a QA plan for this game.
Starting point is 00:49:28 And like wasn't there a thing that was Stalker. That was like Metro God damn it Metro. Yes Metro 2033. Right right right. Okay sorry. So I think this this anyway this perfectly works because this I was about to say is Stalker a genre now and your obvious confusion I feel does in fact prove that Stalker is a is a genre. It is a Ukrainian Russian based post apocalyptic slash Chernobyl area where there are Stalker bros and your guns are dirty and a Ukrainian or Russian man plays an acoustic guitar next to a fire. Chernobyl light is one of those and it's been in it's been in early access for quite some time and I got a hold of the 1.0 version and it is super weird it still got the wandering around the Chernobyl zone and it's all fucky.
Starting point is 00:50:41 It's all it's all sad and old and there's a little bit of nebulous radiation magic going on and you're scavenging for parts but you're also doing like base building inside your hideout and managing a team and sending them on missions and you're going like the primary gameplay is not wandering around open world it's going to zones and doing missions to get like supplies or clues to the mystery it's it's really weird it's also as far as like Eastern European Eurochank goes. That's my that's my first question. Definitely the least jank. Oh no. The least it no wait the leastest jank. I personally have played was Metro last light. Which I think is the game you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Yes, probably this would be the second leastest jank of the there was a little tiny bit of jank. But it was pretty smooth and solid the whole way through like because of the future we live in. Right. No. So the floor of the Jankist is being lifted up by the baseline. That is unity or unreal for a lot of people. So no. I see what you mean will ever feel like Drake in the 99 dragons ever again because that's not true.
Starting point is 00:52:19 You're just not looking hard enough but the floor has been lifted. I can find one for you right now. I can literally just scroll down my fucking I can go to my queue in steam right now and find you sick jank. Okay, but like Drake is wild. You might be forgetting how insane that thing is. I know I I played that for hours. Don't you tell me I forget how jank that shit is. Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Okay. But you understand what I'm saying. You understand that the future creates a world with less jank because the floor is constantly being raised. This is what I'm trying to say. You want to go play fucking life of Black Tiger. I don't. And tell me that that's not the jankist shit. It's pretty bad ever was it is.
Starting point is 00:53:21 But but this is it. Right. There is a there is a net that is elevating the people who are you know trying to dig to the bottom of the ocean on this and they're they're being pulled up by the systems in place that we have like asset flip games are at the at the bare minimum are going to be like yeah they're going to feel like shitty asset flip games. Maybe perhaps with even worse frame rates because the person has not optimized everything they've loaded in. But you get my point anyway. So the jank is the jank is going away. No that's not true. That is a lie.
Starting point is 00:54:03 That is an explicit explicit lie. So what so the jank is not the jank is greater than it's ever been. OK so the Euro jank in this case is not starting to go away. No I'm saying it's actually minor Lee jank. It's actually very stable and runs well. OK. It's the least janky of the of the Euro janks second least janky game of this genre. Metro last light plays like a real video game.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Well you I don't know what you're talking about. You're not looking at the trash enough anymore. You're you're playing too many of these good games. No I'm just thinking that like people who are making a lot of the shit are using game making tools that give you a bare minimum empty room that you can put some fancy Nintendo hire this man's lights on to create your own. Jump Force type shit and that we're kind of deadly premonition to came out like last year. Now if people are making I guess we're also talking about the difference between people making like random indies with these existing like engines versus like creating their own shit. And studios that are creating their own shit. When you make your own shit then the world disguised the limit as is the bottom of the ocean.
Starting point is 00:55:36 You can go as high and as low as possible because you're not relying on what's there. But for people who are making quick things with like preexisting engines the sandbox is getting more and more fancy. The sand is getting. I mean you want to go you want to go fucking check out Sterling's channel. You can find some shit that's. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. They're able to track down.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Yeah they're digging they're digging. You can find it like it's not getting better. I can I'm finding a bunch of fucked up anime bullshit on this fucking queue. Games are shittier than they've ever been. Okay. But sure no by lights actually a lot of fun. All right. It is.
Starting point is 00:56:23 I believe you. I just imagine anyway whatever. Let's see. I also played a lot of the Runeterra and I finished watching. I don't have anything to say about Runeterra. It's good. You should try it. It's a fun card game.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Doesn't have characters you like in it but it's fun to play the cards. And I watched that them their Loki series with the Marvel. Have you watched the Loki series with the Marvel? No I had a decision and it was to either I was because I was waiting for it to finish and now that it's done. I was like okay so now me and Pudge Mom can you know go through this and it was like well it's either that or Space Jam. And then I said well let's just do Space Jam so that like my mentions can be safe. Oh I watched both of those. Cool.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Like Loki I still we're gonna do but like Space Jam is like it's a single sitting thing and there's definitely no there's no way to avoid it and she's gotten used to the part of my life where it's like no you don't understand we have to watch this now because we can't not. We can't enter a war. It's the it's the law. I'm unable to enter the world. Space Jam. I'm unable to enter the world where these things come out and like you happen to miss it the week of release because it's just
Starting point is 00:57:51 it's over your feeds are over. Fun fact when I had deleted my vods and was very sad and I was kind of moping around. Page you know gave me a pat on the back and said well that was stupid you shouldn't have done that so I'll tell you what I will punish you and then you will feel better and I'm like what and she's like we're gonna sit down and watch Space Jam. And so I had to watch the Space Jam. And that's why I watch Space Jam. Do you want to talk about Space Jam first and then I'll just talk about look five minutes you want to do the other way around. I mean yeah that's that's that's fine.
Starting point is 00:58:35 I. Space Jam for at least for my side of things is an extra weird. It's an extra weird property in this house because punch mom is somebody who has a lot of blind spots of media in her life. Yes. This has become an established thing it's known there's no surprises here you know and I've you know shown some cool stuff for some things that are just kind of like quintessential here and there like we sat and we went through like Star Wars. Hold on a second Willie. Are you failing to floss off camera. This is the this is pathetic.
Starting point is 00:59:20 Get out of here. All right. You were saying. So it it definitely came as as no surprise that she didn't see Space Jam one. So it's like OK that's that's going to be that's going to be a part of this discussion here and I was like you want to go watch it beforehand. Probably doesn't matter. I think it'll be fine. And then I was reminded because I remember when I kind of said OK let me just give you the brief quick cliff notes on it.
Starting point is 00:59:59 I gave her the cliff notes on what happened in one and I'm like it's probably not going to matter because this is a sequel with different people and different shit and it's probably going to barely reference the original but here's what it is right. And then I went like oh and you know here like so and I was kind of we're talking about like trying to establish like how popular this thing was and I was like man you missed out on a huge one because it's all of the memes you must have encountered. It's all of the things. It's it's it's out there the website. We've talked about the fact that it never updated over time. You know and I was like yeah for example you know I believe I can fly.
Starting point is 01:00:35 So yeah I'm like that's from Space Jam that song that you know Space Jam song and she's like what. No. Are you sure you didn't just hear that like on the radio and then like you're young and so you attributed it to it because you're too small and I was like I can't. Like what. How do I. Space Jam song. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:00 And I'm like I'm having a moment where I'm like OK how do I explain how ridiculous that is. You know over premise. And then I was like same thing and I was like you know fly like an eagle right same thing Space Jam and she's like yeah and she's like yeah no what if those songs what if those songs are just popular and you were just a young kid associating them and I'm like I need someone else in the world. Yeah what if but that's not what happens. I don't know what to do here and I'm like and I can't just stand and dunk forever on how ridiculous this premise is and I'm trying to explain I'm like yeah you can and I'm like you can do it all day.
Starting point is 01:01:35 I'm trying to stop something do you realize that's like me humming. And you going like are you sure that's from Star Wars. Like it's it's it's crazy what you're saying right. And I'm like I don't. And I'm just I'm being thrown for a loop here and I'm like something's what the fuck is happening. This is weird. And then gas lit. I'm being gas lit a little bit.
Starting point is 01:02:01 Right. And I'm like why is this such an impossible thing for you to believe like you had a major blind spot. In the form of Space Jam and then I was reminded of a conversation I completely forgot where we were talking about Michael Jordan. Some point in the past and there was a picture of him and she didn't recognize who it was. And I went that's the most recognizable athlete on planet Earth. Well for the audio listeners I can't do it because I'm currently doing it. Can you describe the look on my face when you said it is it is know who Michael Jordan was. It is a squint.
Starting point is 01:02:49 It is a South Park X eyes squint. Like I feel like my fate like I just ate a mental lemon. And I was like. Wait back up what. And I completely forgot this conversation happened. I must have deleted it. But we had a conversation where she didn't recognize them and I was like that's crazy. That doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 01:03:15 What do you mean. And she was like oh well you know and then kind of like just like yeah well just I'm sure if you're a sports person you know who it is but otherwise not really. And I'm like no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no it's not that right. Like there's a bunch of times where usually there's a time in the conversation where it just be like OK you had a you missed out on this. It was wild. Also you grew up with weird French like Ontario things. So I understand you're in a bubble of reality. No.
Starting point is 01:03:48 For example sir. But that's no that's not an excuse. But that's what I'm saying is like this is international. This is the globe. It doesn't. There are people around the world in countries that don't fucking know anything about basketball that know who the what that faces. It's crazy right. And then that got to the point where it was like she's like I think it was like she's like I bet you I bet you if I show it to my friends like they won't know either or something like that.
Starting point is 01:04:16 And I'm like yeah. Get on the fucking message. Get on the phone. Send it to all your friends. And let's see what happens. And yeah. The one who brought it up. Of course.
Starting point is 01:04:31 And the ass got blown out and all of her friends are like what the fuck is wrong with you. And I just like I completely deleted this conversation from my mind. So now it's coming back as we're sitting here. And I'm trying to explain that I believe I can fly comes from Space Jam. And I'm like oh right. You're this you're you've been met in black flashed into not knowing who the most famous athlete in the world of all time is. And I just like don't know why you have this particular level of fucking Blinder on for it. But it was pretty it was pretty nuts.
Starting point is 01:05:16 And I just I really am just like I need back up here. I can't I can't just I can't just sit here. It can't just be me. You know what I mean. Anyway. And it was just like yeah something where we eventually I was just like I'm like OK well it is it is what it is. It's fine. It probably doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:05:34 We can just watch this movie anyway. And then we wait wait hold on. Did she are you guys watching the movie. And she's like who is this rabbit person. No eventually I was able to through my sheer incredulity convince her that like yes this music is from this. And yes this basketball player is famous. And yes the reason why I know it is because I've fucking seen the movie as many times as most other people in our peer group have seen it which is countless. And I've also listened to that soundtrack top to bottom because it's one of the only audio cassettes I had back in the day next to the Lion King soundtrack and where it all yank of a bad hair day.
Starting point is 01:06:18 And like of course you know the fucking I don't know what do you want me to tell you. It's like yeah it's fucking space jam. It's quite essential. There's a website that randomly mixes the face jam theme into four hundred other songs. It's insane. It's completely insane. And I'm just like I don't know how to establish to you the pressure of this like mimatic shared cultural experience that the entire planet has. That is one Michael Jordan in two space jam.
Starting point is 01:06:50 I don't know where to go or what further conversation to have like this. This is just what she had to take my word for it. Okay. All right. Okay. That's so watching that must have been weird. Not really because it doesn't matter that the old movie exists. It's as expected.
Starting point is 01:07:16 You know it was its own thing. You know that movie is kind of lame. The new one. It's literally just space jam inserted. It's twenty twenty one space jam. It's what a movie it's not because like it's slightly different. But it's what I'm not defending it in any way. But it's it's it is it is as twenty twenty one as space jam is nineteen ninety six.
Starting point is 01:07:45 No I disagree because it's more than just new space jam. It's ready to space jam player two. That was the part right around the ten or fifteen minute marker wherever it was that it starts you start seeing all the cameos that are not loony tunes and there's a there's a feeling that this thing goes for and I guess whatever we're going to talk about space jam folks. All right. I'm going to spoil space jam for everyone in this audience.
Starting point is 01:08:24 Okay. I don't care and you shouldn't. So there's a thing where what they're going for is and this is why I say twenty twenty one. Mind you because it's not just the updated references. The memes are in place. The screenshots all the things the players are replaced and so on. But no it's this part too where you're going for a thing of oh that's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:08:50 Look at the reference to the thing that I recognize is the feeling they want to go for. But we both we paused it and looked at each other and had a moment of like oh my God everything is owned by everything. This is horrifying. We are heading for we are already in the super corp. It's all Disney and if it's not Disney it's WB and everything you know and everything you love has been purchased by this group and like hey look it's all the characters
Starting point is 01:09:22 you recognize because they literally have the fucking like they have their hands on everything. There is nothing that is not there that doesn't belong to either them or Disney and it's terrifying. I have a Socratic argument to make. I would like to ask you a question. Willie who do you think this movie is aimed at? Age bracket wise.
Starting point is 01:09:49 I would imagine. You're looking at. 10 to. 24. Very online very very very Twitter using people. So teens to young adults. Zoomers if you would. Right.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Who are going to lose their shit over. Austin Powers which is a movie that came out when they were like zero to five. The Matrix. Casablanca a movie that predates everyone in this room and talking about this in our chat. Yeah I'm guessing the play there is no it's those are the things that people older who are around for the first base jam will recognize and the people who are in that target audience will have heard of them.
Starting point is 01:10:55 And that's all. And that's you know what's and they and the extent to which they reference those things is about as much as the people would have heard of them. For example the Matrix is a room with people with shades and jackets on dodging bullets. Right. Yeah. What about.
Starting point is 01:11:18 Some good old fashioned. Ultra violence. Let's just make sure in the background to get. They are the front row. I find the fucking bass. I didn't notice them because I was staring at it the clown. They they are Pennywise rather noted drug addicted gang rapists the droogs. Yep.
Starting point is 01:11:53 Hanging out at this child's basketball game. Now I want to point out that Pepe Le Pew is a Looney Tunes character that I really liked in my youth but nowadays I can kind of see why he's not so popular. He doesn't really show up so much anymore. A creepy sex pervert Frenchman. But the droogs are there. The droogs. Staying next to the Night King.
Starting point is 01:12:24 By the way Game of Thrones did you know Game of Thrones though Game of Thrones. Yeah. It's I think Foxcade put up a clip that perfectly sums it up. He grabbed a one minute clip which is the Fury Road the like Austin it goes from Fury Road to Austin Powers to Casa Blanca to Rick and Morty in 60 seconds. And it like it is it's it wants to hit you with an emotion and it's not giving me the emotion it thinks it is giving me its terror. It's absolute terror at the mass purchase and mass ownership of everything.
Starting point is 01:13:14 All the all the things exactly and that which is also Ready Player One and Two which is Emoji Movie which is to Wreck-It Ralph. Right. All of that stuff that is the 2021 this to me. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. You're right.
Starting point is 01:13:35 That's the most modern day thing about it is oh that's what this kind of movie is now is look at all the things. Look at the Megacorp. Look at the Nabisco. Look at the GE Viacom. It's funny because like people are saying 1996 Space Jam was just as bad and there's a lot that is the same. They're both ad filled nightmare shit fuel like the differences and this is really important.
Starting point is 01:14:03 The differences between the times in 1996 is Space Jam. Michael Jordan is wearing Nike's and he's going to eat at Burger King with the McDonald's in the background and he's going to drink a Pepsi that had like a big fucking Pepsi logo that's facing the camera. Right. And it was that type of product placement advertisement. Right. The equivalent of 2021 style with 1996 products would be going to Pepsi World and meeting Pepsi
Starting point is 01:14:36 Man. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Like it's it's it's it's very different and I think the reason why it's it's so like like it hurts me like to watch in the second one is because of the editing. Right. The all the product placement in in in 1996 was like in the shot.
Starting point is 01:14:58 It was a movie but then the there'd be filled with products on the screen or they'd be talking about them in this. Like you go a lot and go and go to Foxkates Twitter that clip is perfect. They're talking about who to get on the team and then it smash cuts to Michael Myers in the full screen. Yes. Yes. Like doing Austin Powers shit and like it keeps happening.
Starting point is 01:15:24 So that and the editing is so manic that it made me like fucking anxious. Well so that part of the the recruiting part is where I'm like OK. Right. After the after the horror of everything is everything and owned by everything. Right. And like I think I made a reference Harry Potter reference like seconds before it showed up on screen. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:46 But like man they call out Harry Potter World like three times so this so when they're doing the recruiting part and I'm like OK that's happening. They're like there's almost a bit of a like wow that's fucked up. Just isn't just like taking how much of how much of this is all like you know the megacorp and then it goes by and you're like OK sure and that's probably so that people who are our age you know and everyone and all the millennials can be like hey it's the thing you know and people also and this is and let's be real who are LeBron's age so that he knows what those things are to and I'm sure to some degree like he's like you'd be like oh yeah
Starting point is 01:16:26 that's the thing I know what that is that's fun. Right. Sure. You get those those references in there and ultimately then you you can imagine you've filled your quota of reminding the world that Sauron has obtained the one ring. But then you go back to it again and again and again and then when you have to get a crowd to watch the game you fucking summon all of the people again that we just referenced but now you have to see them and yeah we already mentioned the joke about King Kong and Iron
Starting point is 01:17:07 Giant but now we have to know they're here now to ready player one it. Just. And so the frame was shit so that when the training day joke gets made it's like and we have them there because you have to remember that Sauron has the one ring. This is the best part when when algae rhythm played by Don Cheadle makes the King Kong ain't got nothing on me and King Kong goes fussy page looked at me and was like what is that what is he saying. Like it's a training day reference which is as I'm saying it's even more confusing to
Starting point is 01:17:53 me. Why would you be talking about training day in this child's fantasy basketball game. Like who is that. Like that's not for me. No but here's the training day but here's the thing. What the fuck but here's where you have to give up on that line of thought is the movie is also meming and referencing or it's it's attempting to meme and referencing at a mile a minute.
Starting point is 01:18:20 So they're throwing it all out there at the wall. Okay. And I guarantee you I guarantee you there's a billion things that you didn't recognize that are from even more random obtuse things or even basketball things and moments like there's a gentleman in our chat who pointed out that the movies editing feels like you're watching tiktok on autoplay and like I think I think that's too close to reality. I mean I think the movie was probably edited that way on purpose. There's there's tons of shit where you're like oh they're like even just like simple
Starting point is 01:19:04 like Twitter LeBron memes where like he makes the the the the the pissed off angry confused face where like he specifically does that for a split second right that's a reference to something or when Lola lands and has her arms spread out that's a real screenshot of like a moment where like LeBron is dunking in the background you know and they're like recreating again another like a meme a moment that you kind of that you either recognize or you don't and it was a point where I was like I was mentioning what these things were to punch mom and I just stopped at a point because it's like what are we going to do sit here all night what's the fucking point there was you know that movie app thing where
Starting point is 01:19:45 people were review movies got a lot of black background and like green text we get the name of it but I saw review of it page showed it to me that she had found which I think was like the best review of anything I've ever seen which was there was some kid in my theater who freaked out so bad that Big Chungus was on screen his mom had to take him out of the theater I forgot the rest of the movie on the way home exactly precisely 100% and the fact that the algorithm is literally the bad guy it's like yeah they're just they're leaning all into that right but here's the part two that is also like it's though it's so weird in that it has an approach to things where in the movie we're looking at them and
Starting point is 01:20:45 they're two and they're animated right they're 2d and there's a moment where everyone gets turned into 3d and they're turned into big 3d begrudgingly and angrily because they don't want that and the movie itself is like oh boo here comes the big CG but then it just does it and like it's like no but we're not not gonna do this because it's a modern day movie and the Disney movies that you might have grown up with and have fond memories of a child don't exist anymore because nowadays people who have grown up have fond memories of 3d as their childhoods tangled and frozen are the things now so we have to make a 2d animated movie like full space jam style in 2021 you have to have 3d so they're like we're gonna do it even
Starting point is 01:21:36 if we're gonna make fun of it if you've seen the bits of the movie the the biggest downer of that is that they're like no not CG and it's like the movie looks like much better in motion and in clarity when it's a 2d animated film for the first half of the movie the tunes are all in 2d animation and it's pretty high quality 2d animation and the bit where LeBron goes to tune world and hangs out with bugs for about 10 minutes looks like a good looks like a good movie and the CG looks just like 2021 it looks like a bad video game which might be super meta I don't know maybe because I'd also like to bring forth some of Paige's complaints into this because she had some some ringers LeBron is LeBron's whole storyline is about there's no time for fooling around I got
Starting point is 01:22:48 you got to work hard and fundamentals right but like LeBron is portrayed like an absolute insane idiot where like the tunes can summon trains and multiply themselves and are and can't die correct and our magic yes are just magic yes and he's looking at Yosemite Sam and he says put away your guns we're gonna play fundamental basketball against Hydro Man yes who at one point dribbles his entire body through LeBron like you're not gonna break Hydro Man's ankles with a twist bro just use the use the Looney Tunes magic chaotic like it's legitimately forces on your side yes um so what I found really like so I just on the note last note on the CG thing which was telling again in this weird meta way is like so everyone is begrudgingly being pulled into the 3d world but
Starting point is 01:23:59 now we're gonna watch a 3d movie because you have to release a 3d movie your know what the people spending the money on this are not going to accept it not being bad they're not going to accept it just being traditional animation kids are probably gonna look at it and then go like what the fuck I want my 3d all right that's there's probably an audience out there that feels that way let's be real um yeah the game that his son makes that you're watching early on in the movie shows you little CG game characters running around on a on a court that look like a pretty like a video game pretty like pretty like NBA Jam yeah um pretty advanced for an indie game but but there's some you know whatever some video game quality 3d models running around doing moves and shit in the game right
Starting point is 01:24:57 then when they get there in real life now or not in real life but in the serververse and they bring out the the the the goon squad and they look the same quality as what was supposed to be the video game early on but now you're supposed to sell sell it as them being realistic standing next to real LeBron again it's a weird kind of telling moment of like oh they're not even gonna they're not trying to sell that this is like realistic CG it's just bad and it's aware that it's bad and they're leaning in to it and then and then Don Cheadle is again just bad CG at the end and it's like you're trying too hard for us to buy this as no that's just meant to be video game graphics because it's clearly not it's it's looking like Ang Lee Hawk style like no no no it's bad
Starting point is 01:25:58 you want that to look like a realistic Don Cheadle you put too much money in for it it's it's it's crossing that like pre uncanny valley level of like yeah like Ang Lee Hawk that's that's where my brain goes you know so you so but but earlier on in the movie you were aware of that being bad enough to be a video game but now you're trying to sell it like why would you do that does that make sense I have I yeah I have two more things to add because yeah they look bad uh one I want to give a shout out to a company whose reference I appreciated legitimately Nintendo you guys are cool for letting people see a Game Boy in the trash is a garbage logo on wow yeah legitimately shocked I'm like sitting there going like yeah it is out the top in the middle of the trash on top of a pile
Starting point is 01:26:51 of pristine papers pristine pristine but showing a Game Boy in the trash now that's that's a step forward they put the full screen they put the full screen background of the game happening bugs is moving around like they're showing you hey remember Game Boy and you know and then he tosses it out and says fuck video games and Nintendo was a okay with that also I have to admit using the old Bugs Bunny game for the Game Boy pretty ballsy because that game is trash of course it is I played that game that game is fucking garbage he should have thrown that away because it was garbage like not just not because I gotta focus on ball and no that game is trash also e3 got themselves in there somehow e3 got themselves in there somehow with the with the
Starting point is 01:27:42 camp despite e3 basically not existing anymore um um but then the future console was at the end they the end of the movie they go to like the kid goes to the e3 design camp and they're standing in front of like that apartment building and I'm like that's not the fucking LA convention center well this is the design school camp fuck off they they it says e3 on it and it's it's pretending to be the side no no it's the it's the it's the school game design camp it's not it's not the e3 e3 whatever they show an intent they show a Game Boy but then when they get to the future and they have they show a new console well I think it was just like a fictional thing if I remember correctly he was just on some some switch like thing that wasn't actually yeah it was it's a pc
Starting point is 01:28:30 okay um um yeah and and my big complaint is the the the game I keep that's that's how fucking fuck this movie is I keep calling it a video game um the theme of original space jam was like you gotta believe in yourself right and that's why Jordan at the end does the stretchy arm to win and you might and the secret stuff yeah right but it was actually just just moxie was internal yep uh the theme of of this movie is you have to be true to yourself and LeBron demonstrates that by letting his teammates carry him to victory like his big moment is someone on the court committing suicide and another teammate literally lifting him up in the air to make a regular basket where LeBron
Starting point is 01:29:25 looks really cool yes because LeBron is made of fundamentals and normal ball and he can't this world is not made for him he cannot succeed in this world like it doesn't it doesn't even mess with its own message it doesn't what did LeBron learn that helped him win nothing he just he just learned that he was being a shitty dad yeah that's it that's the theme of space jam too is LeBron James is a terrible father sounds about right also that scene in the beginning with him like in the basketball court with the two kids yo he's an asshole like he is portrayed as the most unsympathetic oh oh when they're when the yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah no for sure when they're when they're
Starting point is 01:30:21 and the and the kid mm-hmm the kid is the most ungrateful little fuck the kid sitting in a room with a pc that's worth more than my house of course looking at dad going you never do anything for me dad like fuck you you live in some kind of stupid movie mansion yeah it's just it's the it's the down-to-earth James Manor you know it's it's relatable it's they say ball and a ball come shooting out as as for uh as for LeBron and Zendaya who played Alola me and Paige and Eli came to the conclusion that they did in fact read all of their lines yes yes they did they sure did and for that they get a little golf clap I think he also threw I think there was also a line in there literally about him going athletes acting in movies that never works out or whatever
Starting point is 01:31:19 as he says it in the flatest tone of voice possible and you're like mm-hmm you want to hear some some cringe shit that'll make you go mm-hmm the Lola actor the real Lola bunny actress actor I don't know which one it isn't anymore but she actually voiced the role and did all the lines and then they dubbed over her with Zendaya what yep oh that's fucked up yeah yep wow that's disrespectful was she high as was she brought what was she hired like rather because sometimes you hire people as like stand-ins and like temporaries but if you're hiring original I'm gonna I'm gonna take a word from Pete saliva which is allegedly okay if word did she was she cast like in you know what I mean like or was it like a
Starting point is 01:32:22 like stand-in situation that's fucked up if that's what that says I everything everything everything that I said I said that's all that is in my brain now damn that's that's brutal oh sick dude I just got an ad for new world from amazon games pre-purchase now on steam I bet that'll be a hot banger um and and and and you know speaking of hot bangers again as to be expected everything was yeah just the music the the the references everything is is is driven like okay if you're gonna tell a movie if you're gonna if you're gonna have a movie come out these days that is like meta in this way it's here's and this is kind of like the same overlord brand thing where it's like
Starting point is 01:33:20 life is social media so all stories of this type will have to be about social media from now on and that's depressing yes that's actually the most depressing takeaway um is I feel like because of what is quintessentially a social media driven childhood these are the only stories that you're going to see um unless they deliberately go out of their way to tell them in a different way or of a different time or in a different manner you know it's going to become a constant thing it's fucking that is a bleak bleak timeline we're heading for with all of these you know my no Michael Jordan um LeBron is not an actor so I'll give him a like I'd like to make fun but he gets a pass he's not an actor right Zendaya is an actor but
Starting point is 01:34:20 she's not a voice actor so she gets half a pass do you know who doesn't get a pass in my mind in this movie Don Cheadle oh my god oh my god this wow dude he is terrible terrible like Jesus Christ like on the one hand knowing how good of an actor he is I I'm tempted I get the feeling that it's like he's doing what he can but on the other hand I don't know I don't know so it's either one of two things either he's like man whatever just give me my paycheck I'll just bang it out in one or it's it's like the the the Lucas way of directing no Don do it more like this no no you're acting it too good do it like this though but movies like this are not are built by committee and directed by committee and approved no it's directed by the the director
Starting point is 01:35:33 of scary movie five okay well anyway like a corporation sure did make this movie and we are in for a world of more corporation made feeling movies and this is just the fifth in line because like I said we've already let you are dude we've already had ready players wreck it Ralph too and and emoji movie and it's just yeah here's here comes the next one here we go this is a thing hey you watch it you could tell me if I'm nuts was the audio quality of the dub for the characters noticeably worse during the 2d animated sequences um LeBron definitely sound like he sounded like he was reading lines on the court okay thank you because like the rest were normal specifically where it was like
Starting point is 01:36:35 he sounds like he's not in a good booth he's on he's in it sounds like he's he's in a plane he's on the road he's and and to be fair right they found a way to make the movie without him for about I don't know two-thirds a lot yeah a lot of it two-thirds they found a way to make it without him you know so there you go didn't have to over commit while actually playing you know in the in the middle of a season so uh huh anyway there were there was there was there was a 10 minute period of this movie that I unironically enjoyed oh I there's a bunch of it I enjoyed I'm I'm I'm I'm not even being like I'm not I'm not even dumping ass on on the entirety of the contents of this thing
Starting point is 01:37:33 but I am definitely looking at it and going this is a product of today and it can't possibly ever be anything else we are trapped and this is this is my takeaway from it anyone who tried to do anything else would not be given access or the green light to do so the the reason that I bring that up specifically is because the 10 minutes I'm talking about I actually really enjoyed which were and was then left with why couldn't the rest of the movie have been like this and it's it starts with what I think is a really really great like the only legitimately great reference joke in the movie which is the Michael Jordan gag yes yeah the and then and then it is followed up by the Looney Tunes getting to do Looney Tunes shit for about 10 minutes and I'm like
Starting point is 01:38:31 yeah I love the Looney Tunes they're great this shit the Wiley Coyote doing stupid technical technological tomfoolery I've been laughing at my whole life and this is a pretty good one because he gets sucked in the machine he makes a bunch of clones it's horrible but they overplayed the grandma being badass bit yeah they did they only needed one or two ended for me and then they did it like five times but I hear what you're saying but like the most of the movie outside of bugs doing it for like three four minutes when you meet bugs and like this bit like the Looney Tunes just don't get to do stupid cartoon shit which is see and what I would want out of my Looney Tunes and I was and also um like the moment porky starts rapping and you're like if the only way for this to
Starting point is 01:39:24 not be supreme cringe is if he actually goes full eight mile and just yeah just and just just bleep it out if you have to like fucking have him go hard and see 17 for like a minute existing robot chicken sketch you know and then just and then censor what you must but lean in because otherwise it's just cringe and then unfortunately they couldn't do it they couldn't lean in because the committee was like no my last shout out for this movie is a two-parter there was an executive decision somewhere that Lola Bunny could not be attractive they do everything they can to dress her down even in the hip hop skit that we're talking about now she is like dressed down and that must have come from the top because someone in the animation team decided to subvert that and had
Starting point is 01:40:29 I want to say three sequences in which a giant snake woman coils around Lola and calls her bunny and hisses close to her face it happened every time it happened every time and it is such obvious sick fetish bait that snuck through into the movie um it's like just uh keep in mind of course that uh the that that original okay I that's not where I thought you were going because I thought we're gonna talk about that I thought we're gonna talk about that uh the fan art with the heavies no no no no I mean I even I went back and checked original space jam when when the cast means Lola she like pushes up her her tank top over her shoulder yeah she no she she kind of just like she Jessica rabbits a little bit
Starting point is 01:41:31 yeah yeah mm-hmm and so it's like we're sitting there and Paige's like the snake lady has her again like again like on like again like in every quarter except for the third one the snake bitch grabs a hole to Lola buddy and encircles her whole body and leans in and is basically licking her face going ah I got you now buddy and it's like someone beat off to this quickly someone's beating off to this right now hurry up yep yep yep well some people in the chat saw this I'm sure they know exactly what I'm talking about well anyway um did you see the Game of Thrones though oh I saw it I seen it it was the Game of Thrones they got it it was in there look it was really funny about they kept they flew by Game of Thrones like two three times but made no effort to land
Starting point is 01:42:39 and deal with whatever crap they would have to deal with I mean they had they had they had like they the the the Daenerys joke in the dragon drogon like flying through space mind you but like we're not going there you know fuck oh don't go down there nope no what season is it oh god yeah it's always stuck at season four weird wait wait no there's more moments because you see don't you see um uh dawn sitting on the throne on the iron throne for like a second before he gets crushed he pulls up the iron throne when algae rhythm is like you can be king james you can be king yeah yeah yeah so they do it like oh my god they keep doing it there's so many of them and like they do the dude there's one extended dc sequence that does it's that does its thing um the
Starting point is 01:43:37 extended dc sequence the whole time I'm sitting there I'm like let's see how little they wanted to play the voice cast of these characters of course yeah yeah the answer is zero zero zero none none superman just stares at daffy duck it doesn't speak not a single not a not at all how dare not even um but they yeah that's the thing it's like I was thinking it's like okay there's there's the retrieval and then there's the crowd but it's like no no no early on there's the we can put lebron in everything moment and like there and they revisit a couple like they do it like so many times you know they really didn't have to do all the reference gags and they just they they fucking over commit to all of them it's insane and that's what do you call this genre
Starting point is 01:44:29 what do you what is a reference a reference genre you call it family guy I mean not even though like like it it's just yeah it's just it's just a pop culture thing but it oh somebody in the chat captain whatever says a commercial there it is that's what you call it it's a commercial strong it's good it's hard drive came to the same conclusion oh man correct all right well anyway um go go watch the uh go watch the
Starting point is 01:45:24 go watch the space jams uh what is no don't you're gonna you're not you don't have a choice it's gonna happen okay you gotta watch it do do teachers still play movies in in substitutes in in in school is that still a thing I don't know I don't know pre pre like quarantine where people still playing substitute teacher movies and like like does a substitute teacher come in and be like i'm too drunk to teach you today so watch watch 50 minutes of the beginning of the mice and men uh tv movie from 10 years ago I mean if you're lucky they're they're doing something like they're like I never got anything like mice and men we always just watched like literally off like space jam or Jurassic Park
Starting point is 01:46:16 or whatever the fuck like we just watched random vhs movies that were around anything that they could grab from the from the teachers lounge and wheel the vhs I remember for one one christmas period where we didn't have anything to do my fifth grade teacher went and grabbed chevy chases sorry let national lampoon's christmas vacation to put on and I was like ah the kids will watch this funny movie but she forgot that there's full frontal nudity dead center of the middle of that movie yeah so like the girls in in chevy chases dream in the bathtub and she sees what's happening and she just like sprinted from outside talking with the teacher and almost knocked the fucking crt to the ground and ended up jumping in front of it going don't
Starting point is 01:46:56 worry about it okay class today we're gonna watch porkies like fucking like what are you what are you doing you have one job literally um uh well anyway how is uh how's loki loki's good I hear it's good tom hiddleston is doing tom hiddleston thing all over it has a lot of really fun time travel shenanigans I hear it's the best of the uh of the marvel tv so far I would say it's the best of the marvel tv so far I would say it just edges out uh scarlet witch because it ends really well whereas scarlet witch did not end very well sorry not scarlet wanda vision did not end really well scarlet witch you're correct yeah okay scarlet witch had that really bizarre moment at the end where they're like you're like a hero and like there as they're
Starting point is 01:47:59 walking by a bunch of mentally damaged prisoners but but whereas but it was scarlet witch was also like um hey go see the movies they're coming soon yeah um loki is go see loki season two when we put it out nice good good um uh it ends it ends really well it ends really well like the the last episode is the best episode and it has a really great sequence in which you get to meet the primary antagonists and they make a really good case like you know how Thanos made a really terrible case for their shit and it was like oh you're just nuts this villain makes a great case I like a good case for their bullshit I like it I also thought um what stood out to me the most in the trailers at least was the cinematography um the color looks good really strong which it's fun to watch
Starting point is 01:48:57 I also have my guesses but cool I will also say that um I don't know if this even counts as a spoiler because it's not me who did it um remember in like Doctor Strange like the first Doctor Strange like there's a bit where Strange is like tripping you know the first part where he's tripping all over before he learns any magic and he's falling through universes and shit um in that uh the the the the the the Tilda Swinton tells him uh who are you in this vast multiverse right so it's like oh there's a multiverse out there cool so then when um you know they they announced Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness you're like oh cool he's gonna go in different dimensions and do stuff right. Loki sets up that no there's no multiverse
Starting point is 01:49:42 there's the one universe and the multiverse is bad and that time traveling aliens are keeping the multiverse from happening and then you look at your phone and see that Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness will be coming next year okay and you're like oh okay um all right I have a sneaking suspicion how this is gonna end they also announced that they're doing what if yeah so well they're doing what if they announced that the day before the final Loki episode which was like the most overt spoiler conceivable okay well it like like it's really baffling I remain without context but uh I'm glad to hear it's good yeah it's fun I like the I like the new villain they're they're they're they're bringing up the
Starting point is 01:50:45 actor seems very charming and talented and fun and did uh did Owen do his Wilson oh he's he's like my favorite part nice he's just like like Owen Wilson-ing it up to the absolute maximum perfect that's why you like his character's biggest goal in life is to get a jet ski and he just talks about like man jet skis are awesome right like wow and you're like god damn it that's just Owen Wilson like right off the set of a Wes Anderson you straight up yeah okay cool and his nose like I've never seen an Owen Wilson movie in in HD or anything like that his nose is so fucked up it's like supreme holy shit it's very very yeah he has the most broken nose of any human being I've ever seen but it's also he's a great actor I
Starting point is 01:51:46 love him yeah and it's a trick why did you take my drink away but I didn't finish it did I get I want my drink back I will throw a tantrum on this podcast you gotta think that hollywood has approached him and said hey you know we can do things hollywood has probably approached him and said hey we can fucking do something about that and he's like nah nah this is my this is my this is my nose no no he would say oh you can fix my nose wow wow yeah no thanks dude oh well this is one of those one of those like as soon as they announced him for Loki I was just like ah yeah hello Wilson he's gonna be the weird goofy guy he's gonna be like kind of
Starting point is 01:52:40 understand it he's gonna go wow and he's gonna be soft-spoken and he's gonna say like ah it's gonna be great I love him and that's what happened yeah he's great like he kind of outshines Tom Edelston for a little while what's Luke up to there he is Luke Wilson who who Luke Wilson his brother the other guy that you would see in the Wes Anderson movie I don't know that is Luke Wilson is Owen Wilson's brother he's another famous actor I don't I don't know who that is I I assure you probably do and there's the first picture is them standing next guy yeah Owen Wilson's brother yeah out of town that's uh that's I thought that was Pierre Trudeau for a second there no it's just
Starting point is 01:53:38 fucking Luke Wilson it's the other one his nose is fine it is fine yeah royal tenon bombs idiocracy he wasn't royal tenon bombs wasn't he cool all right well um anything else of note yeah no I don't really uh I taught my dog how to eat peanut butter out of one of his toys and he ate his toy for four hours and then passed out is peanut butter like a rare treat yeah we only feed this dog like you know I we feed him like the raw food which is like a hamburger made out of like apples and
Starting point is 01:54:32 beefs or maybe a little lamb right or like a chicken you know like you know good good meat stuff we feed him these tiny little treats singy come here come here oh we can't even see it his eyesight so shit um uh so like human food is like an outlandish treat oh I saw this really scary article that said that raw raw dog food might lead to super strains of act uh uh super strains of bacteria that are antibiotic resistant so I don't know about that I'm just trying to feed my dog the best food possible we're heading for a fun world we're heading for a fun world I like I like he's saying that because we feed zangi for our dog food we're gonna kill all humans with super bacteria is that what I said damn that that is that's what you said yeah okay cool I don't know there's
Starting point is 01:55:28 some some article popped up on on my my algae rhythm and it and it wanted me to read it so that I clicked it and I was like huh that sounds pretty nuts but yeah so peanut butter is an outlandish uh super treat so what you do is oh hon can you get me that that dog toy there what you do here it's not stop what you do I you calm down see it's like the catnip though right it's like you put the peanut butter in and he knows peanut butter and now he's gonna fucking lose his mind yeah you gotta dole that you know carefully you put the peanut butter way deep in there that he can't reach even with his big gross dog tongue and then he spends like hours trying to get even the the the dankest tiny there isn't any peanut butter left in here
Starting point is 01:56:20 there's nothing get your toy all right well he's distracted damn I mean you say that but at the same time like the lengths we will go to to synthesize a drug like the ridiculous processes we'll go to to extract things to to you know get a fucking buzz off is is not unlike you gotta be careful though and this is important if anybody else likes to use the peanut butter trick on their dog don't use it oh that sounds bad um don't use a peanut butter that has what's it called xylitol it's some kind of fucking fake sugar oh yeah it's like yeah yeah yeah so yeah that'll fucking kill your dog it's fake that'll kill them it's uh it's um sugarless sugar replacement sugar yeah you gotta get them peanut butter with real sugar oh no sugar well whatever just don't
Starting point is 01:57:26 give them the xylitol a lot of most regular peanut butters have tons of sugar in them shouldn't be too hard but um or you go for the oily kind but yeah there's a bunch of like when you're going low sugar you you learn about all the sugar replacements out there and there's I can't believe it there's no quite a peanut butter in there I ran it through the fucking washing machine but because there might be peanut butter in there he's like trying to fit his whole head inside okay question though like when he knows or like if he doesn't know that there's any in there will the journey to attempt to get some not become like distraught there might be some in there because you know how like lasers are like a like a like a thing where they're like oh if you
Starting point is 01:58:22 like cats love lasers but like dogs will get really sad because like they won't be able to get the laser there's no payoff is the lack of payoff like well I'll tell you what here's the here's the deal with dogs a tired dog is a happy dog okay also maybe he'll just try harder next time okay also for real though the dog is so food crazed that I've just discovered that doing this like the you know the okay symbol or whatever because I hold the treat has mind control properties yeah by accident yeah yeah yeah that makes sense he's so used to me holding a treat in my hand like that the gesture and he thinks there's a treat there every time and tries to eat nothing out of my hand mm-hmm I told you about that like
Starting point is 01:59:20 really fucked up sad dog from granada right where there was this like street dog that was like it looked like a moose it was really big and and it was pretty ugly but it was just he was he hung around our neighborhood you know and some of the shit kids yeah I definitely told the story like at least three or four times or by now but for anyone who hasn't heard it some of the shit kids in the neighborhood going to school would throw rocks at it right oh and like so it became super skittish and afraid um but like it also so like if you like had anything like a snack or something to throw or whatever at it or so like you couldn't throw it or toss it or do anything and like even if you like like there's times where like if it was nearby and it was like oh you might
Starting point is 02:00:08 have something for me or maybe not I don't know and he's like looking at you and it's like if you bend down it might be like you're picking up a rock like one of the kids would so the gesture of looking down makes him take off running and we're just like oh my god like take my wholesome dog story turn sad dog story I'm just saying the association with the gesture is is like one that like comes to mind with that with that big grenade a dog that we had in our neighborhood they can see a gesture at times they can see a gesture and definitely like immediately associate yeah I'm sure I'm sure you could tell a story about kids that know like know that start crying when their daddy opens the whiskey bottle too probably there's there's no reason like why are we
Starting point is 02:00:55 bringing it's just like it it's what came to mind it's the it's the it's the gesture creating a response in that sense it's what that's I don't know I got dragged to Grenada what the fuck you want from me I don't want nothing from Grenada no thanks your stories from there sound like shit it wasn't a great time there's no peanut butter left in there anyway um I can't I can't reason with him I can't he's a dog give me back my shoes you are a dog they don't even they don't even fit um cool so uh what's your what's your schedule uh this week is tentative because I'm still waiting on an answer from a business compatriot uh from SEGA specifically I'm not sure about the timing
Starting point is 02:02:01 but this week tomorrow I'm streaming teppen off my phone oh in partnership with gungho interactive who are paying me some money dollars well how about that that's cool yeah um weirdly enough they're like you have to stream something else for an hour before switching to teppen so we're gonna be hanging out on my phone background for one hour before playing teppen why is that I don't know I'm like can't I just stream it for more and they're like no you have to play something else that and then switch to teppen that's weird do it sure is is are you gonna are you gonna make a make a deck or is it like a uh like do a specific thing or use a specific I have loaded up the game okay and I played the tutorial one time okay um
Starting point is 02:03:11 and on Wednesday I'm gonna be streaming fantasy star online new genesis this and well hopefully SEGA is actually getting back to me okay on uh on whether or not that's going through because that is also sponsored and they're gonna give me money there and uh I'm waiting on the time to figure out whether or not they will have a streamer mode in the game in time because there's currently no way to block the chat so pro tip when you play your first games um when you play when you're gonna play a card wait until the enemy line is about to hit you because yeah like that way you minimize the amount of time where they can counterplay you got it that's probably the the the biggest beginner thing thank you and then Thursday I'm
Starting point is 02:04:10 gonna play uh Chris tales some jrpg I found on steam and then on Friday I'm gonna go back to Mass Effect 2 and hopefully do the suicide mission without deleting all my videos again cool cool um over on my side yeah Space Jam 2 we already talked about it um and yeah not much else besides just you know strive deep dive continuing to um do what I need to to get the ins and outs of uh uh matchups and learning and and and the trying to fully understand this character trying to really really get the the nagari yuki in my bones and um I do like something that I really want to get good at and I can tell where this character is gonna end up in the future uh is a place where you are not a place where you are autopiloting your blood management because you're
Starting point is 02:05:14 just mentally keeping tabs on what you spend and what you reduce and you just end up having a feeling for where you're gonna be uh that's uh like again blood I've talked about it before that like uh meter management in fighting games has been a thing but this is a brand new one where like because it's not instant up and instant down there's a there's a real yeah you do it and then it like it slowly fills right yeah it gives you leeway to overspend before you're you have to cash out and it gives you leeway to uh and it but it slows you down in the reduction process so like it's a blessing and a curse you know like if you can do three if you can do four things that'll pop you you can probably fit in six in the time it takes for it to actually slowly get to the the
Starting point is 02:06:05 terminal point that's that's got a really high skill ceiling but for somebody like me that's a little too nebulous for my taste I would I would constantly be popping it it is it is a very very learned skill um what I loved in the first beta though was that when you hit a super at any point it froze the blood where it was and that was a nice that was a nice like mitigation tool in the middle of this craziness where you could be like if I'm godlike I will freeze it on the final pip but um they took that away you know so like that I feel as if they kind of you know yeah that sucks but um anyway had a lot of fun with that uh and um I'm getting better I'm improving doing some longer sets and and yeah I can see some I can see some growth happening so that feels good
Starting point is 02:07:02 also I had a little check in on on Twitter to see how everyone was doing when in their first month and a lot of people are uh really enjoying it and having a good time that's awesome uh a lot of people also or uh less so but a number of people did talk about like dropping it and giving their reasons why um in some cases it's just like people who are going like yeah I just deal really badly with losing you know and um there's no real easy answer to those because it's you it's the only the only thing you can do is just think about it differently you know um people had some really great advice go ahead no I'm no I'm just I'm holding on to something people had some great advice in that discussion and uh one of the ones that you know it's a different way of stating something
Starting point is 02:07:54 that we've talked about in the past I've always talked about like the way to think about losing and things like that and you know you're playing to learn you want to see what you can pick up that you didn't know before so another way of of of uh of directly referencing it to something that people might be familiar with is going like take your early game losses as if you lose to a boss in Mega Man or in a Souls game right you don't give a fuck that you like got bodied the first time you walk through that fog gate because you're you're like what am I looking at it wasn't fair because they were more skilled or more powerful so just learn how to deal with it what's going on you know and if you get if you get a one shot in there then you're like oh fuck that's cool I've
Starting point is 02:08:30 gotten good enough to be incapable of doing that but in most cases you're like yeah what what does this Mega Man boss do what what do I need to use what are his patterns you know and like you take a couple stabs at it each time learning a little bit more about the boss until eventually you get enough information to use to overcome you know so thinking about those those losses in that way and less of a like we played a game of chess and sat down and I dominated your mind and that was all there was to it like yeah you know it's it's an important thing I think it helps to change the way you think about those losses you know I uh I feel bad for the people who just like keep giving it a shot and just don't like strive and there's nothing to be done they
Starting point is 02:09:15 just they don't like it particularly those who like old guilty gear games but there is something that pops into my head when I think about that and that's like it is kind of fucked up that when you go into the shower you're showering but when you go into the bath you're not bathing makes you think yeah we drive in a parkway and park in a driveway I said what I needed to say okay silent dunk in on somebody is that a stealth dunk yeah yeah okay all right well anyway um um I oh here join the podcast buddy so then yes um thinking about things differently can help us with some of that and I and um
Starting point is 02:10:26 you know as long and then the other the other to have helpful tip is to like make try to go in and say like oh I want to block this one thing or I want to like land this one thing and see if you can accomplish those goals you know but overall it's pretty dope to see people kind of like making it in there and feeling happy about the level of the tower they're on and I I do yeah like I said I'm looking at this tower system and I get I'm I'm starting to feel that it's like this is a it is a beginner friendly thing and it is encouraging for people who like trying to make it through what what if you're gonna break out laughing then you're gonna have to
Starting point is 02:11:10 explain something man no I'm having a fun time no I'm enjoying a podcast all right because it's always as if there's a sub timeline of you know there's two there's two tracks happening and it's like there's a second there's five tracks happening in my brain okay okay sometimes there sometimes I'm just thinking about dogs falling down well anyway um so I switched uh now that I switched over to pc uh as well there's a couple things that I didn't quite realize that were so different between the two um when Reggie came over the other day and he was like hey you probably want to like get into that main menu before we start here and I was like oh yeah okay sure I guess and I didn't realize because on console
Starting point is 02:12:00 it takes a really long time to get into the main menu from that loading screen the communication you can play an entire sonic adventure or sonic generations level you can fucking beat uh what is it lament of innocence and roll the credits in the time it takes for the pc version to get to the main menu madness crazy oh man utterly crazy um you know there's jokes back in the day about the uh JoJo all-star battle loading screen and how you could complete rounds of um of uh uh Hokuto no Ken in the loading of that and all of that fits into a blood-borne loading screen yeah but but this is also really really nuts um yeah so uh holy shit do I feel that now and um I saw someone mentioned they're like that kind of kills my mood to like boot the game up and
Starting point is 02:13:05 get into a match quickly and I know that feeling because when we were playing it's super long it's ridiculous like when uh plus r would plus got rollback and I was like yeah I love just sitting down taking like 20 seconds to get to a game and just playing and playing and playing and then being like okay I'm good you know and you don't have to deal with all the fucking bullshit on the way to a match like the you know I just I don't care how much dress up we play here like it will absolutely come back to bite you in the ass if you don't have a way to just instantly start playing these games you know you all of the all of the cosmetics and everything that's fancy about it wear off really quickly and you just want to get into a match folks have uh uh broken down like the
Starting point is 02:13:57 background of what's going on there apparently it's uh pinging a japanese authentication server 127 times um which is why japanese players are not complaining about it oh my god oh god chest yeah that fucking sucks um and I mean we've already gotten to the point where you're also like doing everything you can to minimize like delay time like when you land in a lobby now you're gonna notice a bunch of people don't walk around anymore like people teleport into a lobby and then pull up the player menu list and then press l1 and then you get to see the list of people waiting for games and then you pick a game that is waiting for a match and then you teleport in front of them and then you press a button to mat to match up with them and like
Starting point is 02:14:57 people are not even walking around they're just teleporting to each matchup station as they become available you know good it's it's like without walking around shit no we're already we're already just like get like get just fucking get to it you know um dear god man gives a shit about your little baby lobby guys everyone told you this for like a year and they kept it they kept it they kept it you know give me a menu um anyway um so that's uh yeah i'm enjoying that and you know not much else to really not not much else to say except uh strive good oh oh uh and then we also played um uh two other things we played uh pocket bravery which is uh an indiegogo fighting game which uh was being made by a dev team in brazil and looks pretty like the art style pretty
Starting point is 02:15:53 cute sheby characters there's uh some fun designs and there's like a boxer i like and there's a big uh african daimon who uh who who's a pretty cool design and a main character that's got those gearless joe kind of vibes to him uh very early lots of bugs lots of lots of bugs we ran into game needs work um but you know i'm gonna keep my eye on that and then we also played uh head to head which is the newest fighting game from arc forged uh arc forged are the people that made sonic smackdown aka one of the best fucking sonic fan games ever um it's the sonic fighting game that plays like marvel 3 it's incredible it's super hurt never seen that one it's it's so much fun um so we popped but we did a couple um uh episodes of that on getting to fighting games and then uh so
Starting point is 02:16:55 they have a new game called head to head where it's a very like clean cool graphic design style fun music um persona vibes with some of like persona menu vibes i should say with the way the game is presented in the brand the bright colors and stuff uh and it's basically there's there's a character and there's different head collectibles that you can buy and wear and and and pull or whatever and uh and like the style of the game is again simple fighting game but you have so many options and so many movement things you can do you have you're playing like uh almost like a chip zanoff who can move everywhere and do anything and has tons of shit and it can just go crazy and uh you can just have this really fun extra like hyper game that you
Starting point is 02:17:46 play and so me and reggie did some rounds and uh the people at arc forged were cool enough to put a woolly head in the game which was pretty so that was what that okay that was what that was um that just showed up on my timeline was very confused yeah yeah and they also put a jimmy bones head and a uh justin wong head in the game too uh so that that's a whole lot of fun and and it's it's uh it's a nice like that means you're just as good as those two players well jimmy bones i can fucking handle you could you have an easy 50 50 i i mean last time we played a when i played sonic smackdown with jimmy bones he could he couldn't fucking handle what i was putting down you know my my robo sonic was uh a little too nuts but um yeah that's a fun thing that they have
Starting point is 02:18:36 which you know you have a nice uh way to just kind of throw in some wild cosmetics and change the designs around and have fun with it maybe even modify the moveset slightly when you put a different head on who knows you know but so far for something that's just a little simple quick game it's an early access and it's meant to just be like a a basic fighter with like um it's it's a it's a very it's a basic but pretty decent introduction to hyper games honestly because it's it's it's it's it reminds me of um um god what the fuck was it called uh there was another really great mobile simple game that came out last year a tough love arena in that um you can grasp this in like one game it takes about one round or two for you to be like okay i see what's going on
Starting point is 02:19:28 here you know um so yeah head to head uh you can check that out the i think the uh the steam the steam page is up for that and pocket bravery um yeah and then next week we're gonna take a look at um five force fighters another indie fighter that's coming out from kaisen creed uh it's got a kickstarter going now also looks pretty cool um just a fun sort of pixel style there's a bunch of cool indie fighters that i like in the when my back exploded i didn't get a chance to to show off and check out so we're making up for lost time and uh gonna show off some of these these these little gems that are coming out nowadays um so yeah that'll continue and uh disco elysium is going places it's it's it's getting there and uh i'll i have another series planned
Starting point is 02:20:27 i'll hold off on announcing it for now i think but yeah we got some stuff coming up that i think you guys are gonna enjoy um over on woolly versus on youtube and on twitch and uh shout out to uh estaban from hold back to block who uh did a little interview with me just asking about the guilty gear lore videos and about the the process behind them um i did an interview for him and uh yeah that's over that just came out today actually on hold back to block so if you'd like to uh go support that channel check them out at uh hold back to block on on youtube and patreon i talk about he asks me about the uh the pachinko and i and i happily oblige uh right let's take quick word from our sponsors but before that let's take a quick break sounds good
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Starting point is 02:33:10 yeah yeah not quite it's not quite sif you know but it's still a dangerous still a dangerous combination that you should stop i have news we're in the news section now bvd artorias and his trusted i have i have terrible news my my anime girlfriend peach saliva ate a potato and she is sick now what but potatoes are the basis of she's probably allergic to nightshades potatoes are the basis of our human consumption yeah well you she ate a potato and now she's like upstairs in bed being like potato like if you have problems with potatoes or corn you're probably gonna have a hard time being a human being i still catch her drinking that pineapple juice that's true
Starting point is 02:34:18 well anyway that's a wait report but what about the what about the fucking the the mcdonalds fries yeah but do they contain potato shit that's a pretty good question that's a good question all right well um tart our top story fucking potato i would suck not being able to eat a potato there's something called the potato diet which is like you can eat all the potatoes you want sounds yep yeah you can eat all the potatoes you want for as long as you want as many as you want all day but you can only eat potatoes
Starting point is 02:35:16 and the idea is i don't you potatoes are so dry and blend that you eventually get sick of them because you're not allowed to dress them up so you're only gonna then cakes so then you only eat what will keep you alive when you need to get sustenance in your body that would that would that would suck that's no that's not how that happens you're like oh i can only eat potatoes i'm so i'm so hungry i don't want to eat potatoes and then you eat a hundred pounds of ice cream oh well yeah i mean when your willpower breaks you know that's the end of that that's the most realistic scenario of that potato diet see when my willpower breaks i have some i personally keep some sugarless ice cream around so at the very least i can go in
Starting point is 02:36:11 for minimum mitigated damage i'll have somebody who will eat granulated sugar they eat the sugar like she's a fly people will all right people are gonna do what they're gonna do man they are going to do what they are going to do um we talked about the steam deck already that's fine yeah um so why don't we take a second and we and we we talked about the the bad cg of space jam to we did we did talk about that yeah yeah so then why don't we talk about the bad cg of fucking monster hunter netflix because space jam wasn't the only bad cg that that dropped
Starting point is 02:37:06 so we're talking about the netflix monster hunter movie called um legends of the guild well legends of the guild and my mouth was a gape as i watched this trailer i saw the poster and i'm like oh was there a ps2 game that i never played or knew about or saw artwork from him and like then i'm looking at this and it's like no no this is the ad to get you excited for the monster hunter series coming august 12th and i mean like do like soul edge one intro gives some of these things a run for its money maybe not maybe that's a bit hyperbolic i am now looking but it's not that far behind i am watching the monster hunter freedom unite intro trailer which is the first games expansion on the ps2 in
Starting point is 02:38:18 fucking a million years ago and it is markedly better then you know this the netflix show you know what's a pretty solid metric for 3d model quality the tecan franchise what's that tecan one two three tag four five six seven tag two are all running the gamut of cg of 3d model quality and none of them approach the the the photo realism that we can get to today but when you're looking at when you want to grade how bad things are you can pick a tecan this is absolutely nowhere near being above tecan four i'm gonna put what i see here at at least tecan four maybe a 3.5 probably
Starting point is 02:39:31 on the on the 3d model quality scale it's uh i'm looking at the tecan two box art right now and uh i think it's appropriate i think it's an appropriate comparison because man that that it is astonishing in its poor quality it's just wild and the tecan scale the tecan scale only goes up to seven out of ten that's pretty fucking good there you go there you go the tecan scale howdy is this 3d rank on the tecan scale perfect perfect yeah i'm putting it at a tecan four that's that's what i'm saying
Starting point is 02:40:30 i'm trying to fucking just grab so i think the biggest bummer for me was that i was on uh i was on stream and somebody was like dude the ace cadets getting his own show and i'm like oh man i love the ace cadet it's probably the only character in monster hunter that's a character if you played world in that game he's known as the excitable a-lister what about um what about the the uh the girl that hangs out with you from world um the handler the handler yeah who gives the shit well she's a character i don't know i just know what like ace cadets in monster hunter four and he's the excitable a-lister in monster hunter world he's the only character you can think of that's actually like an existing
Starting point is 02:41:24 character in the franchise across games and so i'm like oh that yeah i'm like oh that guy's cool i like that guy and then um he's in the show he's in there and i'm like okay cool i'm gonna go watch it and then it's like oh no it's bad that that guy who is in the village who's like you said he's clearly a reference to like some of the older hunters from the previous games yeah the the the guy in uh in the the old guy wearing the old ratty armor that dude would be a hunter from like monster hunter two or something or the joke about swimming yeah swimming's for losers i hate swimming okay but like stupid nerds but that's but that's just like a person who's referencing the gear and stuff but it's not actually like a character that shows up yeah okay gotcha okay
Starting point is 02:42:28 i think the funniest thing about this whole situation is that i'm currently just ms painting a piece of shit photoshop of this guy onto the tekken 2 box art it's the shittiest thing i've ever made and i didn't even realize until just now that andy is still in it that i grabbed a tekken 2 version of the box art that has andy bogart from kof 14 in it i mean like the andy literally didn't even really nothing's gonna be the simple series andy bogart like that's that's the actual winning photoshop because it has not just that quality but that energy you know like it looks it fits right in it's exactly there um yeah that's that's embarrassing that's not good so monster hunter has milia joe john of johnovitch joe joe vich joe vich man joe joe um resident evil girl
Starting point is 02:43:34 and uh milia joe vich it's not hard excuse me and and and paul w.s anderson on one side i gotta say w.s because there's a much better director named paul anderson that's correct and uh on one side you got that and on the other side you got uh you know this and monster hunter is probably deserves better than this i think for adaptations considering i've been joking about this with elie uh because monster hunter he beat monster hunter stories too and he's like i didn't care for the story i'm like you mean the same story that's in every monster hunter game ever ever like they literally all have the exact same plot it's there's an elder dragon and screwing up the ecosystem so everything's going crazy yada yada and we're watching i'm watching the trailer
Starting point is 02:44:30 for this and it's like what's the story about there's an elder dragon on its way to your village and screwing up the ecosystem it's literally it's the same plot every time it's unbelievable um but this one has a character that you know it has the ace hunter and it has the excitable a lister um before he was the ace cadet and it has a bunch of other losers and they're gonna just they're gonna i don't know how to build a movie like i'm not even talking about the cg i don't know how to build up a movie out of out of an event that people have grinded for a thousand hours like the big the big boss of this is lunastra which was like a dlc fight that came to world that people grinded the piss out of and kicked the shit out of that monster um so it's like
Starting point is 02:45:36 they're gonna they're gonna beat it up hmm i'm a bit confused because the last time capcom did something like this and i haven't watched it but i did see the trailer they went for dragon's dogma which is not the best cg but it looks a whole lot better than this in a very in an anime style it also did her stories one as an anime which it looked decent it looked okay so looking at where how dragon's dogma turned out and then kind of looking at this it's like man like i guess they didn't go with the same people but i don't know they went with the algorithm the algorithm made this movie it bad it was bad it was some people are saying it was worse okay well okay i don't know well i'll tell you what
Starting point is 02:46:29 instead of watching this um go watch the 3ds intro movies for monster hunter monster hunter four and for you and uh just just those are just better they look better i checked i went back and checked they look way better cgy's man capcom is starving for a good adaptation of one of their franchises like it's brutal all across the board i want to say the the only successful thing i can think of was udon street fighter and even then it it had red like a bunch of shit that was pretty goofy get ready for the resident evil spinoff tv show about the wesker kids with archie mega man was good archie mega man was really good it that was super good i forgot that too with um that was that was better than udon street fighter lance lance no lance uh
Starting point is 02:47:44 reddick is his name gotta play cedric daniels in the wire oh um yeah i believe so uh he's playing wesker the voicing and it's about his no he's playing wesker okay all right and his it's the it's gonna be yeah it's gonna be about his evil children in neo raccoon i am not joking okay okay all right okay sure like everything else is shit i'll take i'll take black wesker whatever lance reddick's great we already did l yeah sure fuck it mm-hmm is it is it neo raccoon high school is it actually jesus shit um it's actually just resident evil babies it's like straight up and they're also doing uh you are they were muted hello i'm muted hello what the
Starting point is 02:48:54 fuck you are suddenly muted my friends i'm i'm doing the beeps on my screen it's green and in the audio version of this podcast oh they can hear me but not you woolly has gone to death okay you guys are okay so that it's me is the my headphones dying let's find out if it's my has lost his hearing it does not appear to be my headphones dying that's weird well ah there is doing no we're back it is it is the headphones that we we both have uh just arbitrarily
Starting point is 02:49:49 disconnecting and then reconnecting cool awesome okay you were saying okay they're also going to make a resident evil series that's a more accurate uh like recreation of like uh the first game that's going to be like you know them infiltrating the mansion which i've heard nothing about which uh doesn't bode well uh also the infinite darkness series sucks ass so i fad i think something really really unfortunate happened in the capcom timeline where um street fighter van dam and yeah the paul w.s. anderson resident evil movies
Starting point is 02:50:54 show capcom that you don't have to be good to be insanely profitable i mean that is true take this podcast for example for example and they admitted full on that doing finger guns out here for audio listeners that movie that van dam movie made crazy money for capcom over the years and the entire resident evil franchise has its fucking rules the entire re franchise continued to make bank despite despite being just like the worst i don't even i just hear like i hear scenes described about anyway um and so they realize this and then they kind of just go well then why stop so just put things out there and if enough people are fans of the thing that they watch it and it makes the money then who cares and so they're
Starting point is 02:51:57 yeah not particularly try to do the biased towards quality with their adaptations they're they tried to just make monster hunter the next resident evil movie by having the same people make it but it didn't work because monster hunter isn't resident evil that like it's just it's not it's not gonna they should have won for dino crisis have you seen the wesker versus christin claire scene from one of them movies i'm with the gun crazy shit the crazy gunfight yeah i've seen it it's insane do you remember you played re five right yeah do you remember how that's a shot for shot rip off of when they when they confront him in the in the mansion wesker it's shot for shot right
Starting point is 02:52:52 have you ever watched both of them like very close after one another no paul w.s. Anderson is like the shittiest hack director ever and whoever the fuck was directing it over at capcom with those those fancy like motion capture cameras they used to direct re five is way better at their job because it is night and day it is absolutely astonishing even in even in the attempt to recreate that energy the game version is like oscar quality by comparison amazing amazing can't even copy it right it's it's unbelievable yeah uh i i i just threw it out there but really right like why not just cast millia as regina and then make a dino crisis yeah because it's a and it can be the next resident evil because it can be a stupid
Starting point is 02:53:57 series about her shooting dinosaurs well dino crisis has absolutely no brand value hmm you couldn't create it again so it'll actually it'll actually be mila yovovich as mega man no she'd be fucking proto man or zero if because that feels like the proper like it's the same style it's just the subject matter is just as dumb and you already have a character that she could like fill the role of instead of inserting one in the way that they did it feels like it's the right franchise for this and then mila yovovich as trish yeah well you i'm sure that's around the corner soon
Starting point is 02:55:01 they haven't wow it's super weird how dante was the main character but trish was the one who shot and killed everything got all the cool moments you know they haven't heard us yet there's the anime but they haven't gone live action but i'm sure it's around the corner at some point and like the only thing stopping it is probably uh ruben physically showing up and forcing them to cast him as dante and refusing to let this the production go forward if they don't if you guys don't cast me as dante i will sit in this office and talk about my stupid UFO bullshit until security makes me leave he's not going anywhere man i think we better i think we better talk about casting
Starting point is 02:55:56 um anyway uh that that's unfortunate and i and capcom doesn't seem to really mind throwing drek out because if it caches in it caches in if netflix is gonna pay then uh uh maybe um sure maybe the story behind this monster horror movie will be really good i don't believe what i just said that was a lie for humor well anyway while we're discussing some quality voice acting a fun little little side story here but uh apparently some talented voice actors got together and decided to redub bloody roar 2 into english and i it seems like it was um confusion put together by uh kasey monjillo
Starting point is 02:57:17 i'm not sure if i'm pronouncing it correctly but uh the voice of shinji okay and uh basically there is uh yeah uh you can check out over on his twitter bloody roar 2 just redubbed with um a bunch of voice acting friends such as uh one kira buckland as urico the half beast and uh what do we got going on hold on a second uh bill butz as the announcer bill rogers as gato the lion aka uh urian's voice actor um alice the rabbit as kaley mills uh kasey monjillo playing uh bakary the mole uh river vitae as busizuma busizuma excuse me lisa ortiz as jenny the bat long the tiger as kaiji tang zander mobus as uh shenlong the tiger eddy korea junior has stunned the insect yeah like i just i don't know why this exists but it's
Starting point is 02:58:30 awesome it's super cool wrong a bunch of cool voice actors just said let's fucking redub bloody road don't don't get me who's gonna stop us bloody roar two fucking owns that game rules but it's also like a semi obscure ps1 fighting game from 25 years ago and it's now and they have it playable on on ps1 hardware as well so uh yeah go check out kasey's twitter uh for for some clips and some footage and check this shit out like i'm i don't i'm just like i don't know why or how but what a rad secret project to be worked on in the background you know like quality voice actors just redubbing fucking beast a riser i don't i don't get it i don't get it oh is it kaji tang okay excuse me i thought i always thought it was uh kaiji my mistake um yeah that's some real quality
Starting point is 02:59:38 there go give it a look i like bloody roar two that's another franchise um yeah i don't see a link to it but i'm sure it's out there i assume it was on the commission of a suspiciously wealthy furry this is probably the driving force behind many many secret projects i don't know i don't know how many artists you've talked to about this but there are some furries with some connections money to throw around out there man uh hitting up the olympics apparently the the anecdotal data is that furries is a good indicator of future wealth so if your kids want to dress up let them they'll be engineers or some shit mega rich light bending furry
Starting point is 03:00:47 sure sure i believe it um now in the meantime there's times you know how we talk about like why didn't pokemon take the opportunity to make a insert itself into this genre or this franchise yeah and so on time the answer is never money it's actually time yeah i mean sure but also it's fucking pokemon they have so much money that they can buy time like they can not by using the same people no you get other people anyway that's that's money damn it you're right damn it you were right it is money it's always money
Starting point is 03:01:45 well that wasn't even the point the point is that the opposite of that is bandai namco and its approach to gundam as a franchise because gundam will not let a genre fly by without testing the waters at least somewhat you bet your ass and so now we've got gundam evolution which is essentially gundam overwatch as a hero first person shooter coming and why the fuck not because if it's out there think of a franchise i would want to play in first person less well then gundam it's been it's been this way for a while with some of these arcade games and shit but um they are fucking throwing themselves at every genre and it's why the fuck not it's gundam there's a million things that you can a million for a million um
Starting point is 03:02:42 sub series you can use in different contexts uh gundam evolution yeah looking like a big old gundam overwatch uh video with um a bunch of all star robots in the cast and um i could see this thing if it's fun to play i could see this like getting a following and doing pretty well seems like it can do fine uh it was just there's a tweet there's a trailer on the gundam evo underscore jp twitter and uh i gotta give a shout out because uh for the cast people were wondering seeing some of the the selections in the trailer about you know whether or not they're gonna get to play as their faves because uh maxi boost on aka m bond allowed every franchise to get its representation quite thoroughly uh huh so uh shout outs to expert milk for his tweet saying
Starting point is 03:03:56 no goof devs goofed no zam no purchase ma'am no heavy arms i'll resist this game's charms no ball won't buy it at all no easy eight nah i'm straight no shining i'll continue my whining no unicorn yeah uh y'all better get these devs on the horn no no hayakushiki these are too long hello weki no turn a i won't pay and then it turns out turn a's in it so you're going to is this gonna come out here no oh no you know what is though what super robot 30 yeah every once in a while every once in a while the og the og stuff gets translated and then occasionally they take a stab at it that's crazy it is the licensing nightmare has always been the biggest thing hold up but then they figure it out sometimes you know sometimes they're like no
Starting point is 03:05:04 no no ones we included this time don't give a shit um but this is an og yeah i know i know i'm saying they also start they also have uh uh it's proof that the licensing nightmare can be defeated so then you go be defeated well then what about all the others over the years and it's like yeah they just their dinosaurs remain they didn't want to the other question is of course like um if they could get like they could because over the years they've had all kinds of guests they've urine like an and big o and virtual on and it's kind of like i don't imagine those license holders would have had a problem with this coming over so like was it just nah fuck it because i always imagined it was just like the the again the licensing nightmare you know but
Starting point is 03:05:57 turns out it doesn't have to be um of course you also have to realize that uh uh technically speaking um super robot wars is the is the the mecca version of space jam and and the likes with these uh with the commercial genre movies after at the end of the day clapped when i saw it i fucking clapped when i saw it the big o showed up and i was like hell yeah check it out he's doing the cool thing i i fucking did it was really good and then full metal panic was there and they used the lambda driver and i was like yeah i'm clapping so it's really it's the same shit just for fucking mecca dorks yeah but mecca are more
Starting point is 03:06:53 respectable than basketball i thought you were gonna say droogs that too gun x sword ah yeah you know what to be fair i never finished it but i did like i did like dan's design i thought it was all right but anyway um yeah this might actually get translated who knows but for now it's a big old japanese um gundam overwatch what's it called again um gundam evolution and yes as far as fun cameos go overman oh it's free to play overman king geiner that's that's
Starting point is 03:07:56 where i'm going i i rather see him show up than um some of the others uh oh it's coming west yeah all right it's coming west uh no official western announcement pretty a forgettable name unfortunately uh but there's two pieces of information that say that it's coming out west one it's releasing for the windows pc and two bandai namco has had uh articles uh talking about how they want to break into the north american esports market with gundam so i think probably gonna come out here i mean i think they realized at some point that the market is the people buying gunpla the toy buyers are the people you want to sell to
Starting point is 03:09:02 so breaker is gonna do fine and embon is gonna do fine and these things are where you should put your fucking money and then you're like nah that esports money though we want that new money gotta say and then you kind of look away from the place where everyone's like we have cash we'll give you and you're like we want that other market though which is not unlike capcom attempting to do the same and it's just a little like good fucking luck there's uh there's two points i want to bring up in regards to that one is uh for that interview with harata and the sega representative about virtual fighter uh from last week that i talked about um the smartest thing that was said during that is asking why they changed the name from virtual fighter esports
Starting point is 03:09:58 to ultimate showdown and the second rep said that people in north america really strongly dislike games talking about how they are becoming esports before they are out it is like a really intensely negative reaction so they changed the name i'm like you know what smart very true the second thing big big true and this is a quote by occasionally but not often correct cliff blizinski when he was talking about lawbreakers in regards to overwatch and rainbow six siege he described that in a long-term game marketplace in competitive genres there's room for number one and there's room for number two and maybe there's room for somebody at number three just kind of picking up the slack and i think that's a hundred percent accurate so i
Starting point is 03:11:02 really really wonder if namco bandai knows that and if they actually think they're gonna dethrone something like fucking rainbow six siege or valorant or counters i don't think it's about that i don't think it's about that because um what i'm thinking is based on the way things have been going especially with like established genres in in in japan specifically in japan like fighting games we've learned that like japan is relatively late to the esports scene on a lot of this stuff the concept of esports was not a thing there for a very long time and now was and now with them kind of recognizing and starting to move in that direction and like creating you know laws and stuff about how this all works we're starting to see these problems like the jesu who are for
Starting point is 03:12:03 example with this this company that showed up and said no where the official japanese esports institution and all that um they had no framework for professional gamers they had no framework for people that would um play games like um like full time for money as a part of a team um they had examples of that japanese esports shit is so corrupt like it's so bad like the thing is and they had people they had players that were like you know playing um rts games and they had players that were playing like mobile games and things like participating in these large events but um they were still very slow on the on the uptake of like some of these other genres and like first person shooters especially and things that were blowing up in america so i think they're just
Starting point is 03:12:48 coming late to the party and what we're seeing is like that late arrival leading to late development and late planning of multiple companies not just this game but sega and capcom and all these other studios were seeing openly talking about how they want to get in and involved with esports um where in japan because a bunch of shit is still being established it might actually get a foothold and result in them making bank but the idea of dethroning something that's been around for over a decade in america and around the world actually and a lot of other countries and and korea and everything where it's just like yeah you have no fucking chance you have no chance whatsoever and your brand your ip is not big enough to challenge the existing ones that are the
Starting point is 03:13:37 monsters of this genre so i think they're really like looking at japan and thinking they can take that market and that's probably what they're thinking i don't know they they talked about how they want to break into the north american esports park yeah and then and they absolutely will not but it's like the but that wishful thinking that's comes from this overall yeah gundam man gundams big right yeah where you're at this insanely big with like offset me yeah it's it's yeah they're they're super late to the party on all of this and um you know some of those some of those esports got big because of influencers like i think siege in particular so i'll tell you what band i namco if you're if you can hear this if you give me a big bag of money i pat
Starting point is 03:14:31 will an influencer at twitch.tv slash pat stairs at i will play your gundam game and it will be a big success in the west that's a promise i think the problem is that it's not easy to make high quality porn of gundams is that true is it is it difficult it takes work all right you got to get creative yeah that's the problem that's the real problem take some work right there yeah i mean as far as i'm concerned like if you try hard enough and you have the right attitude we can all we can get this done but um overwatch is a porn franchise first and a video game second yeah i just i just had this lightning
Starting point is 03:15:45 flash in my mind which is we're talking about the licensing issues for you know some of the robot franchises and i'm just thinking of like what happens if this game becomes a north american esport and they don't have the north american broadcast rights for say gundam wing or gundam wing zero and uh the tournament starts up and they have to put a blur filter on gundam is like don't americans don't look at it don't look at it you can't see it you're not loud and then when you go to select it on the character select it's no don't look at it you can't have it's it's unlocked you're just not allowed to look at it oh my god snap it's i like it is unfair to attribute this one insane company's behavior to everybody
Starting point is 03:16:52 but too bad oh it's fun it's fun to too bad everybody everybody's catching it now it's fun to do one insane fucking company run by crime allegedly is is involved in this fucking photoshopping your your eyeballs in a black bearer style so that you cannot behold their talent but now everybody's gonna get accused of it and too bad we're all johnny johnny's excuse me um anyway that's gundam evolution um then we had some fun with the reveal of nicolodian all-star brawl coming this fall to ps4 ps5 xbox and switch and uh this was a fucking like there had been an era where these games would come and go and you just go like yeah you know it's another one they're cashing in they're doing
Starting point is 03:18:05 their thing i've spent my i had a couple of qa over time days working on the showland showdown video game or working on um you know random random nicolodian or cartoon franchise thing here and there uh two ninja turtles got their smash up game going and hey look they're shrek super slam tournaments running in the bathroom but um crumpet dashing is real but but we haven't seen or heard of any of these games in a while and i'm not sure why but i i suspect it might be because like it's not as cheap to make a current gen game as it was like uh uh uh towards the end of the the ps2 era generation to just throw out some random ass fucking uh a nicolodian thing you know a spongebob game or whatever like they're throwing they'd throw out spongebob games like
Starting point is 03:19:02 fucking five times a year like it was nothing you know um but we haven't heard of anything in a while and then now we heard of this one and um it it spreads like wildfire for good fucking reason because anybody who happens to be familiar with the platform fighter slap city which we did play on fisticuffs so way back and then i also played it on get into fighting games uh knows that this team ludosity is fucking good and they know what they're doing and they make legit ass quality and they understand like what makes a competitive side of things fun they understand how to not just cash out um so i would assume just on that alone that you're getting you're getting some solid uh uh uh quality here and then you get the confirmation on day one that it's
Starting point is 03:19:58 going to have rollback and wave dashing and you're like oh yeah this isn't good hands it's taken care of they they know exactly what the fuck they're doing and the devs are on the discord answering people's questions just being like yep this is based on what we were doing with slap city but it's its own beast it's not gonna have uh the systems that slap city had so no clutch button which i love um but you're absolutely gonna have spongebob and and nigel thornberry edge guarding as a concept um and it's gonna have all the fucking appeal of the cast of nicolodian characters for all the kids they want to sell this to but it's also possibly gonna be played in majors because it might be legit it also has rollback yep yep it also has a one percent chance of
Starting point is 03:20:55 having goku it's not zero but it's not zero but why go with goku when you can go with a nicolodian western particular reference to something you know because he's goku scott invader zim scott uh scott the the hey arnold's going on it's scott it has oblina from a real real monsters man yeah like that is a deep deep cut um more interesting and important and relevant and a cooler choice than goku would be ang i mean that's i mean he's gonna like i feel like we don't need to even talk about that because ang's gonna be in there um he's gonna be there oh he's he's on the box there you go hyper confirmed good shit powdered toast man like yeah so now we get this now we get to have
Starting point is 03:22:11 the smash oscars discussion of yeah who's gonna make it except you get to reach into old cartoons the deepest pit the deepest grimeous pit there was a small group but very visible that were upset to discover that dug is owned by disney and not nicolodian and that dug funny is not necessarily a shoe in dammit that sucks is what it is oh also the fun thing about this i always find is i get to discover more of how it feels to be very very very canadian and particularly french canadian because you get to see how many of these cartoons we never got yeah we got our real monsters we got the wild thornberries we got we got we got hey arnold but i have no idea what like at least four of those characters are i don't know who powdered toast man is no that's from that's red and stimpy
Starting point is 03:23:27 that's that's yeah oh is it yeah i don't know because red and stimpy scared me as a child i've discussed this okay no the powder toast man is we got that um there's a couple of kids in there that showed up where i was like i don't know what dany phantom do you know who that is yep we got dany phantom as well okay it was who are you talking about dany phantom was beyond our time because it was it just came later than when we were watching cartoons um but but dany phantom did happen here um i i don't know i can't name them because i don't know who they are i mean they were named in the thing and i didn't know them so i didn't remember what the names were this is a great conversation well i'm just happy what do you want me to tell you
Starting point is 03:24:14 where's angry beavers at can we get angry beavers in there please that was good that was really good and their beavers and their canadian and i love them could have goku though could have goku it's possible was two stupid dogs a nicolodian show because that's proper ancient i was like four years old when that was coming out it feels like the style no cartoon network cartoon network damn it crap no good anyway ludosity rules um slap city was super fun and like uh like i like some of the characters
Starting point is 03:25:16 that they had and the way they designed them like the um the queen of explosions and shit like that was like it was a ton of fun like slap city of all the of all the um the platform fighters uh slap city was definitely like amongst the best uh up and i'd say like that rivals of aether you know these were like the fucking quality ones that i really enjoyed shovel night showdown i really enjoyed as well um they're they're way they're on they're on the higher echelon above um your your your brawl outs and your your icons and your brawl haulas you know so shout outs to ludosity for putting the quality where they didn't have to also the guy the devs said that um nicolodian gave them pretty much like free reign to create
Starting point is 03:26:12 the move lists and do whatever they wanted you know so they're not they're like yeah so far they've they've gotten barely any pushback on their ideas and suggestions so um um good change there's gonna be some weird stupid shit in there i know it but you do you do have to you do have to parse out like the cartoon network from the nicolodian from the disney you know do you do you think sponge bob's gonna have a counter like a down be where he does the sarcastic lean i mean if they know what they're doing which they do we've established every one of sponge bob's attack animations will be a meme yes he will get buff and and rambo up he will float out
Starting point is 03:27:09 of his body we'll have a body projectile where he rides david haselhoff you know all of every one of his attacks will just be meme and that's what they're gonna do and guess what the kid who's who lost his shit seeing big chungus is gonna lose his shit when the game when when he sees this in the game and then his parents are gonna have to calm him down because sponge bob did the meme you know i just recently found out what chungus means like dictionary definition yeah let's find out together it's a it's a combined word it means chunky anus coined by sterling really they coined it
Starting point is 03:28:12 didn't know that did not know that well that makes sense well that ran that ran away from them didn't it ah amazing amazing does that mean they own the chungus james definitely sterling owns chungus and is deserving of a cut of whatever money chungus of all chungus bucks all space jam two proceeds well anyway i just can't stop laughing at the idea of some kid losing his mind in a theater going it's big chungus and the scene goes by and five minutes later he's still going anyways um let's take us out on a fun note over here
Starting point is 03:29:42 military game fan leaks classified documents to win forum argument don't oh wait because i have a downer note to bring us out on after this bummer a war thunder fan leaked classified military documents during an argument on the developer's message ports earlier this week a war thunder is an mmo that builds itself as the most comprehensive free-to-play military game to dedicate it to military shit um someone was arguing about the the way that they built the challenger two uh tank and it's and it's and it's it's accuracy because apparently the the feeling was that the uh it was not as accurate as it could be and uh user fear underscore not who is believed to be a commander in the royal tank regiment of the
Starting point is 03:30:45 united kingdom uploaded altered screenshots of documents they claimed were from the official army equipment supply support publication for the challenger two tank they were meant to be an example of where the dev went wrong on the game design but they were eventually removed due to the classified nature of the information shared don't don't commit light treason to win an internet argument just just wrong you are a potentially decorated officer and you are so mad on the forums that you got a fucking leak government documents on the tank on the on on how it's built to prove how right you are and risked literally yet
Starting point is 03:31:51 literally treason well he won he won the argument you can't say he didn't you know there's some of those some of those some of those arguments at the end of the day you know when you're 10 years later you're sitting in jail you got to go well hey man i was right they fucked up the the challenger two I to this day still remember that one guy who argued with me on the forums that oro had one arm and i'm like you're so stupid and wrong i can't explain how stupid and wrong you are there's so you're like it's crazy how confident you are for being so wrong you stupid wrong idiot and i remember the guy's tag and i and and like he's been around in fgc things and i've seen it
Starting point is 03:32:44 pop up every now and then and i'm like i remember arguing on the internet with you 10 now 20 practically years ago i i bring it up every time that i had this huge like hours long argument with ultra david about training stages and sf4 that i totally won big lawyer man fgc illuminati or not i was super right dup shit it's crazy anyway um all right now let's end on a downer note if games workshop contacts you that they want to use your animations officially for games workshop games like warhammer 40k better take the deal or they'll dmca strike your whole channel and livelihood what the fuck
Starting point is 03:33:40 gentlemen no tables uh was offered a job at uh games workshop because of his animations and he was like these terms are shit i'm not doing this and they're like okay so they fucked up his patreon and his youtube videos wow wow wow we started talking about petty corporation moves petty corporation energy you know um um going after talented fans that you want to hire to do things
Starting point is 03:34:28 and oh my god wow and then uh wow that's uh and then um apparently this has been going on for like all year and they're just going through the entirety of the warhammer like animation so what does he make and being i makes uh animations about it i believe productions of my animations will still continue but the patreon is killed and all the 40k videos have been demonetized okay i retweeted uh the the gentleman talking about it is it uh are like is there a weird way like is it like uh 2d animations or 3d or like i am i'm not personally familiar with okay one's work at all because i'm like do they like is it a thing where they're like like is it like oh you ripped our 3d models from something or something like that or i doubt it
Starting point is 03:35:26 you know i doubt it what the fuck man but uh the the what i was not aware of was seeing people talk about this is that games workshop like the existing current forms of that looks like their own stuff but it's all just ripped off shit from like starship troopers and the necrons used to just be straight-up terminators so it's like long-standing fantasy company that rips off every movie they can get a hold of then goes after people for doing animations for them okay i've been around too long because all i remember is the penny arcade comic which is i think it's like my favorite one where oh yeah you were absolutely gabe is making fun of 40k for ripping off starcraft and tyco loses his shape i don't know because games workshop to my knowledge has also always
Starting point is 03:36:28 been litigious i literally don't know how that happened wait i do know how that happened blizzard was making a war hammer video game and games workshop pulled out the license at the last second oh fuck that's why they said oh whatever use generic versions we don't care well that fucking explains everything they made their own shit because the deal went sour wow wow okay so there's a little more that's why warcraft is is just straight up war hammer there's a little more to it than blizzard saw 40k and went we like that i did say the name of the animator his name is no tables it was the first thing i said you
Starting point is 03:37:31 ungrateful fucking peons i'm talking to the chat because they're being annoying shits who what um that's crazy i had no idea that's a fucking twist you did because i told you on this podcast two two and a half years ago okay well that's a twist on like i mean i forgot i said it too so yeah that's a twist on the narrative established in my brain by by that that whole era of um 40k came first starcraft is ripping it off yeah that was always the narrative for so long damn okay i'll see you there's ultimax news um no but i was gonna say mothman if you're out there be careful yeah there's rumblings about a persona for ultimax remaster is that because of the the persona
Starting point is 03:38:37 event that's occurring because it is yeah i think that's some bullshit i hope it's not but i saw i saw a whole lot of like wishful thinking that kind of turned into rumors and i don't believe that shit that's just a whole lot of wishful thinking source dude trust me here's here's hoping regardless yeah honestly um because of of of early episodes of getting blown up with like stupid rumor talk i've always like nowadays when something is like oh rumors about this or that i'm like man i need like i want to see the the the article talk about like the source being this person who possibly was right in the past about these things and i'll be like okay take it
Starting point is 03:39:31 with a grain of salt you know but but these fucking stupid gino rumors i'm not i'm not docketing those anymore like that shit's fucking it's too loose but it would be amazing goku p5a would be amazing yeah it'd be great i'll take p4u just with net with better netcode man port it port it and make it i'll take i'll take that in a second let's take some letters over here you want a letter and send it into the castle super piece mail gmail.com also shoutouts to everybody listening to this live if you want to check out a train wreck there's gonna be a piece of live stream where she's gonna play baba is you at 9 p.m eastern tonight that i'm not gonna help with. will she be releasing any documents that are in violation of the official secrets act?
Starting point is 03:40:23 don't think so okay okay if you got a letter you can send it over to castle super beast mail at gmail.com what do we got now does anyone have a good question? hey there pop culture reference number one and pop culture reference number two that's me longtime listener of the new and old podcast just trying to get a question answered everyone knows the meme is it a bug or a feature i was wondering whether or not you or someone you know ever submitted a report during your qa time
Starting point is 03:41:07 that was actually a feature or even better your shirt was a bug but the studio didn't want to admit it friendly regards from toby absolutely i have no experience with this i'm sure you do yeah i mean one of my favorites is the story of jumper jmpr that was a griffith story griffith story the we was the we version the original jumper on the 360 and playstation where uh the game is about it's a shitty 3d uh beat them up nonsense adventure game and your power is to teleport because you can night crawler that's the story of jumper if you go watch the movie jumper there's jumpers and they can teleport hayden christiansen does some jumpers and then um when you uh play the 360 version of
Starting point is 03:42:05 the game and you use its its teleport powers you eventually quickly realize that the stages don't mean anything the enemies don't mean anything and the game itself doesn't mean anything because you can just teleport and move past every obstacle in the game until you get to the checkpoint that triggers the next cutscene so the entire game does not need to be played because you can just teleport to the end of the game so um eventually this was uh what we noticed to be an issue that uh the player doesn't actually have to play the game um and the team uh was rather insistent that uh too bad um they're not changing anything at this point in time uh because why would they um and good well that would require giving a
Starting point is 03:43:13 shit about what you're working on and uh that would be a huge mistake and very very out of character for brash entertainment the developers behind the game also behind a number of other fucking shovelware shit adaptation games but they sure did get their movie money and and and run with it so before they shut down kudos out to them for that um when it came time to design the achievements for the game uh they designed an achievement that was called beat the game in record time but they didn't tell the player what record time meant and we were like well this is also an issue because people are not going to know how fast they have to beat the game and you should reward this to tell the user beat it in whatever record time is supposed to be
Starting point is 03:44:09 and they were hours is it an hour like what is it and their reply was no because if someone finds out that you can teleport and beat the game within 13 minutes they might not want to purchase the game so we will not be informing the user of the time and we and we went okay thanks jumper so why did they put that achievement in if they didn't want to have the achievement makes no sense to me because somewhere early attention to it because somewhere early along the line they thought oh beat the game in whatever time that that'll be our achievement and then they made it and then after they made it they realized that oh no our game sucks and you don't have to play it so then they realized oh no you can beat it too quickly and then they went oh
Starting point is 03:45:06 no it's embarrassing if we tell them how fast you can beat it so now we have to change the word so that it doesn't say the time because they planned the achievement out before they made the fucking thing and realized how bad it was oops doodle and they're brash so they're not going to take the time to fucking they're like we're this game has a two month turnaround we don't have time to fix anything well it's actually deep how you can really just do it really fast that's crazy 13 minutes it's like that's like really good um well i mean you can beat ocarina of time and uh in like uh fucking six minutes whatever now so like i mean that's no that's no view on a game's quality or value castlevania
Starting point is 03:45:51 in a minute 31 seconds i believe just enough time wait really really how the fuck is that again go watch the go watch the i think it's lament of innocence any percent speed runs lament of innocence i believe so during during the guilty gear strive pc boot up you can you can beat the whole thing and watch the credits while strive is getting to the main menu harmony of dissonance excuse me i got their game wrong yeah okay because i'm looking at a lament of innocence it's like oh no that's not my mistake harmony of dissonance i always get confused because of the they used hd twice because of the harmony of despair game because they wanted to get the hd pun the second time but they already
Starting point is 03:46:44 used hd anyway um so there you go we got oh yeah you see it oh yeah this yeah i'm looking at it now this is stupid this is real stupid i also saw okay i also saw glimpses of like this it was a it was i felt like i was looking into another dimension but it was a super mario 64 video where the it was a it was like a speed running tech video that involved like like breaking the game so hard so open that you get to a level where you're using diagonal surfaces to create an infinite momentum trajectory that allows you to jump alternate worlds over to a a copied world of a parallel universe for mario 64 and in that world you can then set up enemies to uh be uh it it just it was
Starting point is 03:48:05 it was i i don't half a press it was that what it's called have you ever seen a youtuber uh named yimfa it's why am i got scared h i got scared of the video yimfa have you yeah have you seen this gentleman give me that name again this guy yimfa ymfah this dude might be up your alley because he puts out these videos where i'll play like skyrim or dark souls or some shit with the absolute most absurd conditions possible to which he needs to break the game open like no one's ever broken it open before uh the number one that i would recommend is beating the entirety of skyrim without walking without using the left movement stick ever okay okay so um the the the video i was describing is super mario 64 watch for rolling
Starting point is 03:49:18 rocks and um it is you i think it it's an attempt to beat the game with the minimal amount of a button presses possible and and the video is called 0.5 a button presses yeah and it's that level of like just you can't it it's impenetrable and it's terrifying like it gets scary at a point because every time he introduces a new layer of tech like that layer of tech has 18 layers beneath it that you need to understand why the current layer is useful and i just don't like know if any other video game has ever been like this deconstructed it it's it's terrifying i don't know how to explain it um yeah you you would really do well to take a look at yimfa like i'm looking at a video which is beating dark souls 3 without
Starting point is 03:50:30 attacking just you know just stupid stupid shit like that okay um let's take one over here from james says dear be a wolga and boy head whale we all got our favorite video game doggos and our favorite cats sometimes even birds and bears but i had a discussion about sin from final fantasy 10 and it got me thinking what's the best whale in a video game is it sin or is there a better one i got i got a number one and a number two best whale in a video game second best whale in a video game goes to the one that chases sonic oh damn that orca because that was fucking cool and that was like oh shit the future is now that was the that was the introduction of the future was seeing sonic running from the whale um second i'd rather or rather i'm gonna say first
Starting point is 03:51:47 is duff mcwaylin from megaman x5 because his name is duff mcwaylin that's pretty good i'm gonna go which had to be changed later on because of the guns and roses reference which was not okay but anyway i'm gonna go with oh this is tough oh i'd say the lunar whale honestly from uh four my personal favorite whale is darin moran from monster hunter it's a sand whale it's really cool there you go fuck you excuse me i'm yelling at the woman off camera she says i am her favorite whale thanks honey
Starting point is 03:52:52 i hope your stream with baba goes well um let's see one more steven says uh der wall maven and pat blovin was listening to last week's podcasts i don't know enthralled by the discussion of Jurassic and Triassic types um and the impending wipe meteora style uh i encountered a bio of a contestant on a reality tv show top shelf wherein the participant was a former cia analyst had briefed the president and then worked for disney threat analysis and mitigation program the image of mickey mouse ordering drone strikes on teenagers for using the pirate bay was too amazing for words uh could you i got me wondering about what
Starting point is 03:53:55 other companies might have secret intelligence arms and agencies uh what media companies intelligence arm would you work for well here's the thing while disney having an intelligence agency might uh be a hilarious thought to you it shouldn't be because when you're this size of a company and you own this many things and you have this much like uh this many employees people and control over basically everything that we interact with on a daily basis there's absolutely going to be an an intelligence agency wing for every company of that size and every viacom and g e and all those the big ones they all absolutely have this there's no question sometimes they're just local crime syndicates sometimes they are other times it's not
Starting point is 03:54:56 unlike south park's depiction of mickey mouse uh uh as essentially a fucking crime boss yeah kicking people around but um make no mistake these huge world owning mega corpse absolutely have these these divisions that are looking out for the security of the corp or whatever it is and prop and you know potentially gonna they'd say like the monitoring of their employees hey that was a pretty fast response time good job um yeah this shouldn't be surprising to you someone working for the cia and then disney is like yep after all space jam exists don't forget this is this is where we live now space jam was created by cia ninjas
Starting point is 03:55:45 and if you try and steal space jam they will kill you nabisco has a nsa style agency make no mistake for real though coca-cola is like funded terrorism like that's a real thing yeah they've also like slaughtered striking um workers at the yeah at the turn of the century um there you go i would not like to work for one ha that's my answer all right you want to send this out on a meme what meme would you like like
Starting point is 03:56:36 one that the kids will love and be sure to tweet as soon as they walk out of the theater oh okay oh where's the where's the door drake the six dodge drizzy oh no not that one i thought you meant the other drake where's the door where'd the door go chungus just look kids big chungus big chungus every kid's happy yeah big chungus

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