Castle Super Beast - CSB 128: Occupy Sodom and Gomorrah
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Hello.
Good morning.
Well, that's actually good afternoon.
Whatever.
My day has started.
How are you doing today, Willie?
Not too bad. How are you feeling?
I'm all right.
I got a crick in my neck.
Oh, no.
Yeah, it's when you like change beds,
then you also have to like change pillows sometimes and things.
And like, I have a bit of a very particular setup
because my hair makes it so that like to get my head comfortable,
the pillow needs to have the right amount of give.
And it's a whole to do, unfortunately.
Now, I have a question to ask you,
not just as a person who doesn't have dreads,
but as a person who doesn't really have any hair to speak of whatsoever.
You have a significant amount of hair like, you know, on the back end.
Does that not function as like an emergency pillow?
It does.
But the thing is, is that it moves around, obviously.
And I mean, if I can bandana it up, but like, yeah, it can serve as a pillow.
But like, it's not an, I used to be able to kind of just sleep anywhere under any conditions.
I remember that.
And I guess time and age have made that a bit harder to do.
Like now the problem is like the padding of the hair is still nice,
but sometimes it's like not enough on its own.
So you need something to kind of also push up enough.
And I also, I'm a side sleeper.
So I, so I need enough elevation off of the, you know, from my shoulder to my neck.
Like there's not enough hair to really pack in my head laying down, you know,
so I need to have something that's just strong enough to keep my spine straight.
And the, the search for the proper configuration is, is tricky.
I went to bed the other night and Paige had gone to bed earlier and stolen my pillow.
And we have different pillows.
And it was a nightmare because I did not want to wake her, but and her pillow is fine.
But it wasn't my pillow.
Yeah.
And so for like an hour, I was like, this is fucking, God damn it's the wrong,
my head's at the wrong fuck.
Yeah, I had, yeah, it's, it's, it's a fucking ordeal.
Um, I ended up getting one that is like, like they have these like,
these ones that have a dip in the middle.
So imagine a normal pillow, except you almost create a donut like the whole in the middle.
But it's not a full hole.
It's just like way flattened out and that basically your neck can like go into the fat part and
then the rest of your head can sink into the center.
And like that's doing all right, but still have it waking up with little neck cricks.
You know, so, um, yeah, that's, that's currently my adventure.
Well, Grick and the neck isn't the end of the world, but it is that constant annoyance.
I feel like there's a really specific kind of chronic pain that is the worst, which is like it hurts,
but sometimes it hurts just a little enough that you forgot it was there.
Yeah.
So that you can surprise yourself with the, oh, right.
Yeah.
And it goes away, you know, and then it's like after a couple, like an hour or two,
so you kind of forget about it.
Um, I also have a thing where because of the way, I don't know, just because of the way,
like my apartment is most of the time when punch mom comes to talk, she's always on my left
and she will constantly come from like, you know, what is basically like 10 o'clock,
you know, and so I'm always turning my head that way to face her to talk to her for a bunch.
And then I read and then after a long conversation, I go, fuck me.
Like my head was locked to this way for so long.
So like now I've kind of just gotten into like, I'm just going to turn away and like,
please come stand over here or sit over here.
If this conversation just passed a couple seconds, you know, just stare straight down
and talk to the floor.
There's that too.
There is that too.
The benefits of looking away while you talk is that you can do cool anime lines.
You know, well, not having eye contact.
You can hold a fist up to emphasize.
Do you do cool anime lines in your apartment?
Well, I don't, but I wish I wish I did.
I don't believe you.
I think you've done them.
I've definitely think you've I've definitely explained what they were to her.
And then like, did the walk away and stop with my back turned and then turn my head slightly
to give the last final line.
And then she's like, okay, I know, I know what this stupid shit is now that I've seen
that, I know exactly what you're talking about.
And you have to wonder to fly.
I'm like looking at that going like, you know, I bet you that was just the product
of this is the easiest thing to animate.
We can draw.
Oh yeah.
Right.
People facing away from each other, having these conversations and anime is just because
we can put the cell here and the cell there and have them slide and that's all it was.
And now it's an actual conversational trope.
I hate it.
I don't think there's any other medium that like has a completely different way of conversing
that is like synonymous with the the the style.
I'm trying to think musicals, I guess, because musicals just break into song and no one
knows if they're diegetic or not.
Yeah, I mean, I'm just thinking of like the wrestling microphone discussion from a distance
in which you can barely see the other person.
Yeah.
Does that count?
No, but that doesn't that doesn't strike me as weird because they everyone that's that's
using a mic and wrestling is aware that there's an audience and they're putting on a show
for them.
Right.
And they're aware that and like their beef is because they want to be strongest in the
eyes of the crowd.
So that that they're still within the realm of like what is what is normal, you know,
there's no behavior where no one's around and then they're pulling their microphones
out and doing that.
You know, that's the thing here is that like it's like why would you why would you talk
to someone with your back turned in a way where they can't hear you?
You know, I want to say Shazam at the in the climax fight did a really great job of making
fun of one of those moments where they're having a flying conversation from super far
away.
And it's like here.
God damn thing.
Yeah.
Why and why would you, you know, and that's something that's huge too is just like distance
meaning nothing in in stories or I think my favorite.
I want to say Eli was the first person to point it out to me in one of his videos, but
I've seen it elsewhere, which is like, OK, here's a quote from Gohan saying that Vegeta
and whoever are throwing punches faster than the speed of light.
Now let's cut to Vegeta talking to his opponent.
Mm hmm.
Mm hmm.
And what?
Yeah.
No, that's no.
No, that's a lie.
Yeah.
That is a fucking lie.
No time.
You can't you can't ever hold time accountable in these things.
We've already discussed like Jojo thought time, you know, and like, yeah, mid fight time
where someone's like got their hands up and they're in the middle of blocking and they're
looking for an opening like Epo time, you know what I mean?
And you're just like, yeah, like, no, you can't that that time is always broken forever
in in these fights.
But volume is one of those things that like never gets explained, but it's there.
And I guess the idea is like, if you're just like a strong enough person, you have amazing hearing.
So like, if someone is standing on a cliffside watching as two other people are fighting below,
like whatever that person on the cliffside says is totally can be heard, you know, by
the people fighting below, or if there's a moment where one of them like even like has
a I'm coming for you next, they can absolutely have a real conversation as Dio stands up
there and Jonathan stands below.
Makes no sense, but it's a thing.
Time and space in the anime medium are suggestions.
Yeah, implications.
Anyway, so to avoid neck crick, I usually start turning away.
That's my move.
Why don't you just like only use your eyes for like a day?
Like refuse to turn your head for any reason.
So it's either your whole torso like a robot or just your eyes.
Can you do a modified robot all day?
I mean, if I had a neck injury, I'd have to.
So I can't imagine it being that hard.
For a second, I thought you meant have a conversation just using your eyes.
And then I was like, what are you talking about?
No, no, no, that's that's hard.
That's difficult.
No, no, I mean, like just just refuse to move your neck all day.
How about we try having a conversation just using our fighting intent
and seeing if we can, we can reach each other's words that way.
By entering the alternate realm.
This is the guy that doesn't say anime lines around his house, everybody.
Yeah, I totally believe you.
So what have you been doing with your week aside from totally not saying anime lines inside your house?
This week in particular was yeah, pretty fun.
Got some got some disco in there working our way through to the to the what I would assume would be the finale.
I clicked I clicked in one of your YouTube videos the other day and I saw you talking to the hardcore bunch.
That's a huge side quest.
That's a huge side that that side quest is so massive that it like I feel like both in universe and out of universe for the player.
It sidetracks the investigation into a completely new game.
Yeah, for a couple hours.
Yeah, no, it does.
It does.
We were locked in there for a while.
The entire church is almost like an alternate campaign.
Wild, but very cool, very, very cool.
And yeah, I mean, you know, not much else to say until like we we get there.
So disco Elysium is is still amazing.
Samurai gun to is out in early access and we had a salt party episode and popped that in.
For a little bit.
And man, that is a really fun game.
And that's a really fun sequel to a fun game.
And I don't know if you remember Samurai gun one, but it was.
I barely do.
I barely, barely, barely do.
So it was one of the platform fighters that we played for like this comes back in the day up right now.
Yeah, pixel art.
You have a slash button for your sword.
You have a bullet button for your shooting and you can slash the bullets back at your opponents.
Oh, I remember this now.
Yeah, yeah.
Jumping very fast, very like random stage select kind of just going on a quick roulette kind of thing.
And it was just a yeah, it's just a really fun, simple game where you jumped off the walls and slashed each other and shit.
Really, really cool.
Always had a good fun.
And it was a game that was like you could play four people go kind of party mode on it or you could do duels.
And if you had like two people that were like even scored at the end, then they would do like a showdown and like a bamboo field or something like that, you know.
So Samurai gun super rad and it had like a nice music to now the second the sequel takes that keeps the art style expands on it by making a couple of different characters that have like.
Unique traits to them adds a really cool graphic novel and like art style to the like full art and the menus and such adds an adventure mode and just builds on top of what was there.
And the overwhelming feeling I got was, God damn, I wish this is what Nidhogg to was.
Because it did for Samurai.
I have the look on my face.
I don't know.
It's like it's an expression.
It's an expression of pain.
It's what everyone hoped Nidhogg to would be, you know, and it just it takes what you love builds on top of it, adds a little more depth for like duels and just.
Yeah, everything it does compliments what it was to begin with, you know.
So so some of the the the important additions is before you used to have three bullets and then you'd slash you could slash them back to to return to sender and things like that.
Now you also have a dash button that uses a bullet.
OK, and that dash are your bullets limited three.
Yeah, OK.
But that dash now modifies any actions that you do within it.
So you can shoot a bullet.
And then slash it immediately afterwards will like ultra kill style to create a wobbling bullet that moves slower.
Or you can dash and while you're dashing you can shoot to get a super bullet that moves ultra fast.
You know, and like goes through things and stuff.
Then you can try to deflect a super bullet, but you'll get knocked over without dying.
You get staggered or you can dash slash to super deflect it back.
You know, and like there's a whole little secondary thing happening there where by introducing the dash button and when you when you are dashing you are invulnerable for those those frames.
You have I frames on them on that movement.
So you have a nice little like, oh fuck, explosive move, explosive option.
And it also allows you when you use the dash to shoot on diagonals.
OK, so in the original game, what did you have?
I feel like you had jump, shoot and slash.
Correct.
This is a massive increase in complexity.
And you had cardinal directions.
You had you are rather you had four directions that you were operating with by using the dash button here.
You create eight as an operator, but you it spends a limited resource, of course, to do it really cool.
You know, if you you can't dash through a bullet, you still have to reflect it, but like you can dash through sword swipes and things like that.
So this is a really simple and awesome addition to what was a, you know, three but three options before as you listed.
Here's a fourth one.
Yeah, the fourth one seems like it's not it's not additive.
It's multiplicative to the interaction base.
Exactly, but it doesn't take away what was there before.
And that is an it's a perfect example of like building a sequel, you know, expanding on what was there.
Furthermore, unique characters.
So you've got like Hayao, who's like a wolf man, and he's faster than most of the cast and he can climb walls.
You've got a ghost, a girl that can she disappears when she does her dash for a couple seconds.
So then you can like stealth up on people or you can do a ghost bull old spirit.
Yeah, so her dash bullet is invisible, you know, you've got a golem who can create like a really strong wobble bullet.
And just all, you know, all these little just, again, tweaks and character specific things and all of that is.
Yeah, it just comes together really, really well.
So it's an early access right now.
We tried it out for a bit and then on Salt Party.
And then we did adventure mode, which is also not finished, but it's co-op, you know, three players on a map running around jumping into different stages and fighting off, you know, a room full of enemies.
You know, with different challenges and configurations and items you can unlock and different weapon switching that you can get as well.
So yeah, man, it's just a really, really solid sequel, it seems like so far.
And I expect if they keep building what they got here, it's going to be a fucking hell of a party game.
Just a great sequel to something that was very solid and try not to think about Nidhogg too.
So I was able to answer my own question because I had remembered Samurai Gun and I had remembered going home and been like, oh, it's only local play.
And I went to the Samurai Gun 2 webpage and discovered an online PVP and shared split screen PVP options as well as online co-op.
Yes.
Oh man, thank God.
I felt like that was a huge kneecap for a lot of these games.
Well, do you remember a game?
Oh God, I want to say it was called Stardust Crusaders, but that's not what it was.
It was a mecha game.
I do.
Yes, but it was similar to that.
Stardust Vanguard.
Yes.
And I was like, wow, what a great game.
I'm going to go home and play it with no one.
Shit.
Like what a bummer.
There are a lot of these really good indie games that are like these, I don't know what to call them, like screen fighters or something where you're a very tiny person.
Yeah, platform fighter.
You know, platform fighters and party games.
Yeah.
I mean, the thing is like the era of like the couch fun for these things has definitely changed, you know, when you're putting it out.
Because this is also a Switch game, right, Samurai Gun 2.
And like on Switch, it makes a ton of sense because it's like, yeah, it's a fucking switch.
You're going to grab a Joy-Con and play it, you know.
But yeah, online is again really crucial nowadays for what's going on.
And this fortunately does have it.
Also, I didn't know this, but I see here designed by Bo Blythe, co-creator of Hyper Light Drifter.
So the style is now...
That makes perfect sense.
Exactly.
Hyper Light Drifter absolutely shares like feel with Samurai Gun.
Tons of style.
I was just talking about Hyper Light Drifter like two days ago and was like, man, that game's fucking incredible.
I feel like even though it was like one of the big Kickstarter, like look at this indie game.
Wow, Hyper Light, right?
When it came out, it didn't get the pop that it deserved, but man, that game's awesome.
So I wonder, to me, that represents the visual style of the era it's from that will never age.
Not all pixel art...
Well, depends who you ask.
I guess, if it's someone who's like, fuck all sprites or whatever, but not counting silly strawman people.
I feel like some pixel art ages.
Not all pixel art is amazing and stands the forever test of time.
Clearly, you see Sonic go through different games and looks better over time.
Mario looks better over time through different games.
But Hyper Light is just absolutely gorgeous.
And I feel like that is pretty much like capping what you're doing with pixel art quality.
When you're hitting that old PC style, insane amounts of almost fractal detail on every energy blast
and every little lighting, specular highlight in the background and things like that, it's really, really pretty.
Yeah, Hyper Light also, it evokes a maybe Super Nintendo era,
but it's one of those games that it's like, dude, your Super Nintendo would shoot you with a gun if you tried to put this in it.
The color palette alone would melt that fucking thing.
So to me, and I guess, you know what, to avoid having this come across like super insane or whatever,
I'll say to me personally, that represents a thing that will never age.
That's a fucking perfect quality of sprite art.
I remember having what might be the pettiest argument I've ever had,
one that I just was so of disbelief that I couldn't believe it,
was right after one of the old podcasts with one of you guys
in which they described they didn't care for Hyper Light Drifter because it was just 2D animation
and it wasn't doing anything new, so they didn't care about it at all.
Wow.
It looked like they didn't try very hard because all they did was use 2D sprites.
Okay.
And I was just like, but it looks good.
It looks good.
So to me, this is a take that era, take that style,
and you can freeze it forever with this level of glory and detail in your sprite animation.
When you take it up to 3D, for me, that becomes something closer to the Daytona USA style 3D,
the Jet Set Radio style 3D, you know, bomb rush cyber funk now capturing a lot of that energy.
That style of 3D where you have a particularly cel-shaded kind of like bright flat texture,
to me, is like a perfect encapsulation of low-poly era.
Have you seen the Nocturne re-release on PC or Switch or whatever?
I'm pretty sure I have, but let's pull it up.
Like, it is very, it's not bright because it's SMT, but it's flat.
And as a result, like it stood the test of time pretty goddamn well.
Like clean up the edges and like it looks like it's a dedicated style rather than a technical limitation.
Right. Okay.
Yeah, it still has the gradients on its texture work, but like that goes with the Kaneko art style.
Heavy gradients.
Yeah, but you know what I mean, right?
I see what you're talking about.
If you made it flat and it is easier when you make it bright, like Mega Man Legends is a really good example where that looks great right now.
Mega Man Legends is actually the right example. Thank you.
That's what my brain wanted to really pull towards.
I just, I wasn't, I wasn't saying that.
Exactly. So flat and it's bright.
So, so Hyper Light Drifter, Mega Man Legends, right?
These are like fucking just like, like pinnacle style representation.
And I guess I'm like, what other generations moving forward have have that level of like forever permanent, perfect clarity?
I'm probably not wording this as best as I can, but I want you to try and interpret my energy here.
So two things. One, I'd like to mention to you, Woolly, that there is a buzz slash cable situation going on with your microphone.
Give me a moment.
Okay. So it's not fixed. I muted myself so I can fix it. So hold on a moment.
You can still hear it, right?
I can't hear it.
Okay.
It was, I'm just looking at our chat going, ah, the buzz.
Okay. Okay, we're good.
Okay.
And I don't know, man. So, like, was seventh generation the 360 PS3 era?
Fourth was Super Nintendo. So, um,
I feel like that's the seventh.
Well, regardless, let's just, I'll just skip it. The 360 PS3 era, um, looking back on it, um,
fucking sucked ass and was the worst era of video games ever and had like all the shittiest business shits ever in them.
And everything ran like shit.
Okay. I remember having this debate with you now because I was like, that's nuts because of how much fun I got out of Xbox Live Arcade
and how much fun I had with 360.
Right.
And I think it came down to, I was looking at different parts of the industry from you
and a bunch of the trends that we have now that are made mainline industry shit that suck.
I did not give a wholehearted fuck about in that era. I was playing my fun shit.
So, I want to point out that, like, for example, the 360 era was the invention of the online pass, right?
That was terrible.
That was god-awful.
Shovelware started becoming a thing around then.
The, um, the awful movie tie-in brash era as well of games that, movie tie-in games always came out and always sucked,
but, like, they got, their power grew during that era and you're not wrong about that.
Like, the, the, the, when I say everything like shit, I really mean it.
Like, even, even the PS4, Xbox One era of games where games ran bad, like, it was to be assumed every single game you played was going to run like shit.
And because of Call of Duty, that was, like, the brown-gray shooter era where games didn't have color.
Like, the average game I played was like, ugh, and Kinect was that generation.
It was that generation as well.
And here's the other thing, a lot of what I fondly enjoyed were, were high res ports of Dreamcast games.
Yeah, of course you did.
Soul Calibur and, and Virtua On and, like, all the res.
Yeah, you made an XBLA and those were indie games and ports of old console games.
Yeah, yeah, totally, totally, you know.
Um, but the era of bald protagonist men was one that I definitely, you know, didn't pay attention to, or rather didn't care much for.
When I'm thinking of, like, I loved it, did its thing.
When I, when I'm thinking of, like, the 360 era, I think of, like, games like Fracture and Quantum Theory.
Like, I think of, like, poorly optimized Unreal Engine 3 store bought assets.
Right.
I don't think that is going to be a, I'll remember those times, kind of visual aesthetic.
But what I'm, what my question is actually trying to, to, to find is within the era, there are peers to the, to, to Mega Man Legends and Hyper Light Drifter that are trash as well.
What I'm thinking about is, like, what if anything can approach, like, a perfect representation of that era?
Honestly, I have one example.
Um, I, I fell off it recently, but I had been playing a lot of Scarlet Nexus a few weeks ago.
And that's a Vita game.
Huh.
That's a straight up, like, anime, specific brand of anime with colored lines.
Um, visual novel aesthetic, specific action controls Vita game that would sit right next to, like, God Eater or, uh, Freedom Wars or something like that.
But, and to me, when I think of the Vita era is, like, that style of anime game.
But will it age?
I don't know.
It looks pretty good now.
Okay.
Cause that's, that's, I guess what I'm, that's, that's another little quality in my head is, like, this represents this thing to, this era and I can freeze it here forever and look back at that and go, fuck.
That little hallway that you run around with in Mega Man Legends 1 where you kick the can.
Like, I'm like, yeah, the sound of that hallway and the can and the way he looks and everything and all the vehicle, like, the whole thing is just great.
Um, anything approaching or attempting to capture realism immediately is going to age badly so that almost doesn't apply, you know?
I can think of one, sorry, two old games off the top of my head right now that went for a realistic graphic style and still look absolutely stellar.
Like, God, when did the first one come out?
Let me check before I make this point.
I think I have an answer.
It came out in 2009.
Okay.
I think I have an answer though.
2008 is the game I'm thinking of, which is the Dead Space games.
Dead Space 1 and 2 look stellar today despite going for realism.
Okay.
Interesting.
Um, because I was going to say like, people are throwing out like Halo and Tony Hawk and I'm like, you're misunderstanding the question.
A Halo game is stuck in time.
It's attempting to be a sci-fi realistic thing that's not going.
Every Halo game looks like the Xbox, if that makes any sense.
Yeah.
A Mass Effect is limited by what it was attempting to do at the time, but it's still, it's not to say they look bad.
It's just that will it age is a different question from does it look good?
Yeah.
You know?
Um, I think I'm going to say something.
Maybe how about like Journey?
Right?
That feels like that can probably stay as is and not necessarily age.
I would agree with that.
I'll put Journey as that generation's version of that then.
Yeah.
The only issue there is the Journey is by no means indicative of the rest of that generation.
The same way that say certain types of pixel arts were indicative of the Super Nintendo or Genesis has a slightly different look to the Super Nintendo.
But you can always tell which, which one they're emulating when you get to the music.
And if it's brown, brown, brown, brown.
Is it?
Yeah.
Is the music like disgusting and grimy and sounds like the machine is broken?
Then yeah, you're playing a Genesis like classic.
Though the fact that growing up past that and then later on finding out that like a whole generation of not me people that grew up with Genesis is Genesis.
I whatever would Sega are nostalgic towards these objectively worse sounding soundtracks.
Oh, I love.
I love the I absolutely adore the way the Genesis sound engine is like whatever you got is what you got when you're younger.
I'll tell you that the Super Nintendo sound chip was like clearly better.
It could do way more channels.
It could do different types of sound like way better.
But there are a couple soundtracks on on Genesis.
Streets of Rage is obviously one.
There's the cyborg justice thing that I made you look at.
Yes.
There's comic zone.
And there's a couple others.
The X-Men X-Men definitely in which they decided, OK, we have a really grimy soundtrack.
A science chip.
Let's make grimy music.
So there was a thing that works really well.
There was a thread on like NeoGaff years ago after we had this discussion where going through that, I kind of like cemented.
I was like, OK, you know what?
Brilliant composers will take their tools and find a way.
And there are examples of Genesis music that they posted in that thread that were like, this is the best you're going to get with this.
They killed it.
Absolutely some amazing sounding shit, even though the instrument was inferior.
You know, there are some amazing examples.
Thunder Force is the best one.
Thunder Force 4, I think, is the most unbelievable thing that I've heard off of like Genesis and Sega related shit.
Crazy, crazy good sounding.
And that's full credit to the sound designers and composers for working with what they have.
To answer your question, like, is there a look for certain generations that won't like age?
I don't know, because the seventh generation is a good example because its look was utterly defined by Unreal Engine 3.
Yeah.
There are certain people who played the first two Bioshocks or Mass Effect or Gears of War will know exactly what I mean.
There is a really, really specific shade of green that the Unreal Engine 3 does very well.
There's also a really, really specific shade of dark blue that does really, really well and is totally overpowering for that generation.
And if you made a game in that style or era, it would be that green and blue and the red also.
And the game would have a lot of boxy waste high environments.
Sure.
Yeah, I think unfortunately like most good games that we think of that we like end up being disqualified simply because they do age, you know?
Well, here's the thing, to people who are 20, if we're sitting here telling them, man, the Super Nintendo games didn't age at all, man, look at Chrono Trigger, that looks great.
And they're going to look at us and go, what are you crazy old man?
No one said that.
That looks like a baby toy.
No one said that.
The only thing said was Hyper Light Drifter represents like a peak quality sprite animation style.
Anyone who heard that what you just said in their brains and blasted that internally literally did not listen to the conversation, turned it into their own and then started fighting with the shower brush.
That that person is arguing with nobody because no one said what you just said about sprites.
Okay.
We specifically just I specifically talked about Hyper Light Drifter.
Okay.
Anyway, I got carried away.
That's all right.
Right now, right now today, I wonder if Strive is in this discussion because I think, and I've said this before, when I saw the first trailer for Strive, I was like, we're not talking about best looking fighting game anymore.
We're talking about like best looking games.
I really, really think they're doing incredible things with that cell shading style.
But I don't know what other comparisons are where we're going to make for this discussion.
I don't think that Strive specifically will be the thing to push forward.
I think it should be more relegated to ArcSys of the past five years in general.
Yeah.
Because all of their 3D is it has a definite tone and style to it.
And they're all different.
I think Grand Blue looks better than Strive personally.
Interesting.
But that's because I just prefer the type of shading the Grand Blue characters.
Yeah, I disagree.
But the main thing that like sells it for me is the quality of the animation in addition to the models.
Exord looked incredible, but like and Grand Blue and Dragon Ball look incredible as well.
And they each improved.
But like the way the like any of the super startup animations, you know, show off a big old animation flex that they weren't doing in all those previous examples.
So the way you can see Strive out doing their previous games is with those close up animations.
I think if if you had to pick a single game that jumped out as like definitive of like ArcSys' era and holding up the best, it would probably be Dragon Ball.
Because like it is going to sound this is going to sound weird and contradictory.
Dragon Ball doesn't look as good as Grand Blue and it definitely doesn't look as good as Strive.
But it looks the best Toriyama style you can get.
It looks perfect.
Yeah, it looks exactly what it should be.
It has a cap for what it's supposed to be.
There's nothing like you know what Dragon Ball is based on Toriyama's artwork.
So you know what it's going for.
So there is a place that you are satisfied with it like achieving.
There's a there's a there's a level you're satisfied with it achieving.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, anyway, it's an interesting thing, you know, because like I feel as if no matter what the answers are to this question, if there are any,
they become harder and harder to define the further out you go.
You know, I feel like those those two examples are like really locked in.
And then like as we get closer and closer to now, it just becomes more and more nebulous.
Because as you said, like when games are based on an entire on sharing the same engine, for example,
you're just going to have a look that like, well, I mean, look, if we go back to like early N64,
you're like, yeah, all of this looks like struggling to get polygons working.
And when I think of the N64, I think of low polygons counts and Vaseline.
But yeah, but like, but not even in it.
But but but it ages poorly.
You know, oh boy in the in a very, very like even if you emulate it and Crispin everything up,
it still looks like shit.
And in some cases, there's one.
There's something about that era when people do the look, it's like low poly 3D models like a PS one 64 era.
It's always funny to me because there's two things that they always there's three things they always do,
despite being not accurate and not even part of the nostalgia.
Number one is the frame rate is like a real frame rate games of that era ran at like
15 frames a second like they just they just ran like that.
They ran badly.
Number two is they take the N64 Vaseline off the screen.
Nobody tries to emulate that consoles video output like ever.
And for the PS one style games, nobody is going to be recreating the fact that the PlayStation one couldn't track pixels through depth
and thus had that horrible texture warping on every single texture that the PS one ever had.
Man, nobody's going to do that texture warp crap.
There was a great Twitter account that was posting up side by side comparisons of like artwork from like pixel art from a lot of old games,
usually like portraits where if you're looking at it crisp as fuck on a monitor,
you're losing the blur from an old CRT and you're losing the glare that made the artwork look better.
Yeah, I'm being told by now, by the way, that paratopic and ultra kill both do the texture warping that I'm referring to.
So good for them.
Yeah, I follow that CRT account. That CRT account is incredible.
It's so cool to see like, oh, like again, artists that fucking like know the medium they're working with,
you're not just drawing the thing or creating the sprite art to, you know, convey whatever you're trying to convey with the grid you have to work with.
You're also looking at the end result on a TV screen blurred and shining.
And like they figured out like specifically like, yeah, like when you look at this crisp, it doesn't look as good with all that haze blur,
Vaseline dithering and all the other bullshit you're looking at on a CRT, the portrait looks way better.
This is the super cool account at CRT pixels CRT pixels.
I'm going to retweet the the magnum opus of examples on my Twitter at Pat stairs that I'll be retweeting it right now at 352 p.m.
Eastern. It's the it's the comparison between a direct feed capture of Dracula's portrait in Symphony of the Night versus what it looks like on a high quality CRT TV.
I'll actually send it to you.
You can be reminded it's night and fucking day.
Yeah, it is a child scribble.
Yeah, versus a painting.
It's insane.
It is absolutely absurd.
Like it it's the dip because the softening on all of his all of his hair, all of his like highlights and all of his low lights, everything like that.
Just like you when you go back and you pop this in in a modern port or modern emulated version, you're not even looking at the same fucking game.
Yeah, the Dracula example is perfect because he has a single red pixel pixel for each eye that a CRT due to its curve and the way that the scan lines would go off would smear across into five pixels of various reds that would like create a different
look that only works because he had like gray and white and their vicinity.
It's it's incredible.
And it's a bummer because like, you know, we'll get a digital version of Street Fighter 2.
And, you know, you'll play Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo on, you know, a digital release on your Xbox or your PC.
And it looks like shit compared to what it actually looked like in the arcade.
And so some of these re-releases will include filters.
But I feel like none of those filters ever really actually capture what we're talking about here like perfectly.
I think Street Fighter 3 Online Edition has a really good CRT filter, but it's it's pretty rare.
Also, I'm going to die because I'm looking at people in this chat.
I saw that.
I don't think that's real.
I don't think that's real.
There are multiple.
I saw I saw the one that I didn't acknowledge it because I didn't think it was real.
I didn't think it was that now.
It's not real.
All right.
It is real.
There are people out there.
No, no, it's not real.
And here's why it's not real because you know what a fucking eight track eight track is.
You know what a laser disk is.
You know what, you know.
Yeah, but I'm really smart.
Okay.
Hey.
Okay.
Destroyed there by how smart I am.
Can't beat that.
No, like not being born in the era of a meat of a particular thing.
Does it mean you you you like, you know, have not ever.
Anyway, whatever.
All TVs.
Yes.
I don't know what we were talking about to get here.
We're talking about samurai gun.
And then I talked about hyper light drifter samurai guns.
Very good.
Um, I also played five force fighters, which is currently on Kickstarter right now.
Indie fighting game being made by Kaizen Creed.
I think two brothers working on this project.
It is what I would describe as the homies in detention, making a fighting game and
putting all your crew in it.
Mm hmm.
It's got a little bit of the black, the black Goku energy.
It's got a little bit of.
Oh yeah, it totally does.
I'm seeing it.
It's got a little bit of Aaron Magruder energy.
Right.
Huey and Riley.
It's it's great.
It's absolutely, you know, at lunchtime, we're sitting around the table designing our OCs.
And now one of our friends is making the game and we're all going to put our characters
in and it's going to be sick.
But it's a yes, it's an indie fighting game.
Right now, the two main characters are Coco and Pebbles.
That's going to change.
And no, it's not.
Oh yeah.
And it's pretty fucking, it's pretty wild.
It feels the control controls wise.
They're going for a smash like control system.
So there's a tilts.
There is B button, a button kind of vibes, a block button, evasive maneuvers and things
like that.
Really early right now ran into some problems setting up the controller and shit like that
with the demo that's available.
So keep in mind if you go to the Kickstarter, which is currently hitting its stretch goals
and you grab it like player one works fine.
But like the moment you start getting player two inch in there, you have to basically load
it through steam and then do a steam reconfiguration of the controllers because it's yeah, it's
it's fucking early.
But with that, like Reggie and I got some games going and it's really fun.
The characters, it's basically, yeah, just they you take a smash style control scheme,
but like you make it insanely fast and you make it so that like your your your B button
moves are way more over the top and extreme, but you have a limited usage of them because
you have a meter that they rely on.
So imagine if you made all of the B button moves like huge ex attacks that were crazy
good, but you only had a few of them and you had to and then you had to build back up to
getting them, you know, really, really fun.
And like, you know, obviously balance is kind of nuts right now to like I found the I found
an infinite or what seems to be an infinite nice and early.
And even with that infinite threat in the picture, Reggie still was able to like just like do
some other crazy shit that did enough damage to avoid what I was doing.
And yeah, overall, it seems like a promising project.
I would like to see the characters in the trailer kind of like come to life.
There's a couple other like there's like a heavy heavy like like buff girl that's a character
that's coming and then like a couple of other bosses have been teased.
But the overall vibe of just like the high school back of the binder, you know,
fighting game coming to life is a fun one.
And I'm like, I'm super down for supporting that and pumping it.
So five force fighters is what it's called.
Check it out on Kickstarter.
Take a look.
And yeah, check out the combo videos, especially this is another one that's been you might
you might have seen it in the form of just like tweet Twitter combo videos, randomly
flying around, you know, sometimes you go like, Hey, what the fuck is that?
Is if you see one with like a couple of dudes with afros doing like some wild break dancing
ex wall bounce Marvel type shit.
You might have been looking at five force fighters.
That was a lot of fun.
Yeah.
And then, you know, I continued to play and strive and that's that's going well.
I'm enjoying things with that.
We'll have more to say on the docket.
And then I was playing some teppen.
And you were playing some teppen.
I was playing some teppen.
And currently it's interesting because in fighting games, I have a character I love.
Thus, I pick that character till death do us part and we ride or die and suffer together.
But when it comes to card games like teppen, because I don't particularly like I'm just
less invested overall, I fly around the cast as need be.
And well, it's also more archetypal than your average fighting game.
Fair enough.
But like I've picked up and switched mains here and there as as I've, you know, like as
anything has struck my fancy.
And yeah, I was I was currently working on a I was work.
I was working within like a Jill meta deck that was currently like doing pretty good for a while.
And then suddenly last night, I got hit with some wild X shit, some crazy new X fucking gimmick
deck popped out of nowhere.
And the way you know, like the way you know, like you're looking at a new viral gimmick
deck in the game is when you get hit with it, then you go and try to test it out.
You try to recreate it and test it out in in unranked.
And then you come across someone else who's also testing it out at the same time.
OK, you know, OK, yeah.
This new this new ridiculous shit.
I can tell something was was wrong halfway through the match when like the person was
down to like half their life and they weren't trying to do anything particularly aggressive.
And I'm like, oh, you've got a dumb gimmick coming.
What's it going to be?
Yeah, either you're going to be a combo.
You know, either you're asleep at the wheel or something stupid's coming and something
stupid did come in this particular case.
There is a an ex super called Gaia armor where he makes all three of his cards untargetable.
OK, and then he plays a card called Suruhime, which is a character who every time your
hero's life heals, their damage increases.
Right.
And then you have cards that you play that are very low cost that heal you and heal
your cards a little bit.
And it just goes and goes.
So you put three of these cards down, you make them untargetable and then you heal up
all that damage you took for the first half of the game.
And then you create three cards that cannot be targeted with over 10 damage on each card,
which means within two lines, that's the end of the game.
You know, like, oh, I was playing a is playing a deck earlier today in Runeterra, which is
the long and short of it is that you build up enough cards that you there.
You throw down like five attack cards and then you load up.
What's her name?
Sivir.
I think her name is and her special ability once leveled up is that she gives all of her
abilities to every card available.
Oh, and she has ability called Quick Attack, which is if two cards are going to strike,
but the other one will die, you take no damage.
And so now you have an entire board of units that will kill the blocker before they take
damage.
OK, OK, just sweeps the board.
Yeah.
So Teppin has something called crush.
That's that's the sound similar.
That's that's that's just really good when you have these like we don't trade.
I win any of those moments are like, yeah, really good.
Yeah, that would that would be the quick attack equivalent.
So so.
Yeah, that ship popped up and I was like, OK, time to figure out this new insane X fucking
meta X factor and then also figure out how to kill it.
You know, and it feels as if like because speed matters in this game, unlike other card
games, speed matters, which yeah, I know you kind of understand a bit now.
I do.
Right.
We'll get to that in a moment.
So it feels as if this deck that I just described, the weakness would be in the time between them
quickly putting all three cards on the board and then actually casting their super to make
them untargetable.
You have to like you have to kill the cards then.
Yeah, you have a like two or three second window, you know, perhaps even like less if
they have it or the super already stocked up.
But and then the other thing they'll do sometimes is like there's a card that was like V from
DMC five, right, the mysterious one.
And I described him before he was incredibly strong because what he was is he was an eight point
card out of your 10 possible action points and then you drop him and then any time you do like
another action point card, he would create one of his three monsters on the board indefinitely.
So you could have 10 you could have your 10 action points stored up, you could then drop
him for eight and then play two one point cards and have a full board right away.
And then by the time they kill one of those, you'll have enough action to put another one down.
It was it was incredible.
The way they nerfed him was by making him cost all 10 points.
So that creates a couple of seconds between when he goes down and when you can do anything else.
And that's when you can kill him, you know.
So it feels like that's kind of what you have to do here in this particular case.
But yeah, I'm going to I'm going to explore because this happened last night and I am in the middle of
figuring out what's happening now.
But it's it's it's every time something like this happens.
It's kind of it's exciting in the sense that it's like it fucks the meta up in a way.
I will see how strong this is, but it disrupts the entire like flow because it's like some.
Yeah, because this feels unbeatable.
So now you have to figure out some maybe you put in one or two cards in there that would be able to deal with this crowd.
Exactly.
Everyone has to have a game plan in case you encounter this, you know.
But yeah, so you took a look at Teppin.
Did you not?
I did.
And how did that take a look at Teppin?
So Gungho contacted me and they said, Hey, Pat, do you want a big bag of money to play Teppin?
And I went, OK, and then I went back and forth with them for a couple emails because I couldn't figure out how to stream it
because streaming Teppin is hard because it's only on your phone.
And then I streamed it off my phone, which is hard because streaming directly off your phone kind of sucks.
Not for iOS, but I guess for Android.
Yeah, for Android sucks because you got to use the Twitch app.
And the Twitch app tells you to turn your sound up.
We're going to use the games.
You're going to use the game audio coming out of your speakers back into the speakers as the sound.
So that.
That stream is a little crunchier.
Yeah, I assume my usual.
I assume that the official sponsor would not want you to use BlueStacks.
BlueStacks does not play nice.
OK, OK, it does.
It emulates quite badly, actually.
It's funny because I recently signed a different sponsor contract, not for a phone game.
But in it, the company says, if you ever stream one of our phone games, you must stream it through BlueStacks.
Interesting.
OK, OK.
Which is why I was like, OK, that's really weird.
So I played about two hours of tepid and got my feet properly wet and actually get it.
I now finally understand the speed thing that you've been discussing in terms of like,
let the dash line almost touch them before playing some bullshit so that maybe they react too slow.
They used it up.
The artwork is really nice.
So it's only on the phones.
And I think that it only being on phones and tablets and, you know, what not, mobile devices is kind of a weird thing because you're looking at like a card like Hunk or Ada or whatever.
And when they're sitting at the bottom of your screen, they're really small.
Yes.
Yes.
They're really, really small.
So the way...
And the card artwork is really good.
Yeah.
But it's like, I found that like, while the two characters doing their fight animations was really cool, particularly on the supers,
I felt that like a huge amount of the screen real estate was used up by those animations where it's like, I would like to see more cards.
Of the card, yeah.
So the artwork of the cards in game, so out of game, when you're looking at your deck, you can pull them up full screen and enjoy the artwork.
You just tap on the card and then you tap on the art and it'll full screen the art or like expand it at the very least.
But the in game, when you're playing it, you only see it in the middle circle.
You see a large version of it in the middle circle for like a couple seconds when you play it and then it goes away.
But yeah, it's such nice artwork and it does end up getting like de-emphasized in that like, yeah, you don't see it as prominently as you probably could or should.
I agree with that.
Yeah.
I want Reused Design to officially be ripped shirt with the beard from the walk.
Yeah, it's with the Rathalos gloves.
So cool.
I played through some of the story stuff and I appreciated them as tutorials, though like I would consistently burst out laughing as the game has little story missions that are like,
I would call them the absolute bottom of the barrel of feasibility of crossover stuff.
Sure.
Where Wesker was walking down the street and saw Morrican and Morrican went,
I want to suck your dick and he was like, you, I'll fight you.
Well, Ada whispers in everybody's ear and makes them get real, real angry and want to fight each other.
Also, Nero is walking around one day and then he sees a palico.
And then he's like, hey, Palico, get back here.
Okay.
I also, I don't have a lot of experience with gung-ho games, but loading the loading up my new account during, I think it's their second year anniversary.
Oh.
Was I was absolutely.
Did you do your least?
I'm loading it up on.
I'm loading it up on stream and like six currencies attack me and they tell me to go open up my free skin and then 89 challenges.
Here's your missions.
And the date has changed.
The word, the word is bombarded.
Yes, correct.
Like absolutely, absolutely bombarded.
So that's mobile games, though.
Is it not?
Isn't that is that not just the mobile game experience these days?
Not necessarily.
Okay.
I was under the impression that's how it would go.
In the terms of card games, I've played Hearthstone.
I've played a lot more of Runeterra and I've played this Hearthstone did it a little like did it somewhat.
Tepin was definitely the most and Runeterra has very little of it, which is funny because I loaded up League for the first time in a long time of the other day and League bombarded me.
League just slammed me with there's these events and you got to get premium points for this shit.
And I was like, fuck.
No, it does feel calm down.
It does feel like I especially if it's like if it's a free game in particular, I expect to be assaulted with that.
Or if it's Street Fighter and I haven't played it in a few months or a half year, I expect to be assaulted with like eight pages of screen on the main menu.
Yeah, I got to say, it's just in general, I like Tepin's a fun game.
It's definitely not my game.
I would still definitely say like, for example, when that once I had finished my Tepin stream, I then want and bought a board in Runeterra and played Runeterra the rest of the night.
I don't think it uses its phone real estate particularly well, but its action card thing is definitely unique.
The problem is that's not what I'm looking for.
I want a slow game.
I want to stare at a board of cards for 90 seconds before making a decision, which is the complete goddamn opposite of Tepin, which is essentially the marvel of card game action card game.
Yes.
Did you click on all the different, like, did you look at all the menu options on the bottom of the screen, like missions, quests and all that stuff?
I clicked on a couple, but they, like, I was the last one to show it off and then I'm looking at this and I'm like, I don't know what this means.
The last menu has a little surprise for you if you ever go check that out.
Okay, I'm not, so just tell me what it is.
It's the shopkeep from RE4 shows up.
Oh, okay.
And he's got Tepin Replace that he's selling you.
It's funny because I look at Runeterra and I look at Tepin and it's like, man, I wish Tepin took its characters and made Runeterra because I much more enjoy playing one,
but I don't care about any of those fucking League of Legends characters at all.
Oh man, do I not give a shit?
I don't, you know, I don't have the comparison point, obviously, but I've come to like the active nature of the Tepin card game system.
Like, I do like the timing of it.
It is different.
Did you encounter any dumb RE rejects that you couldn't recognize?
Because who the fuck are these people?
No, I only, I, the, the, the rarest character I got through, like, I think probably my biggest problem with the card animations is I did, I unlocked the cards, right?
I spun, spun the thing and got some cards.
Yeah.
And like, I'm squinting at my phone and I'm like, I can't tell what's in, I literally can't tell who that is.
So you have to tap it again to get the full portrait.
Yeah, I don't have to do that with other card games.
The cards are really big on the screen.
But the, was Manuela, I think her name is, which is the, the, the sick girl from the end of Dark Side Chronicles that is getting all the replacement tyrant organs.
Okay.
Okay.
That's a pretty weird poll.
Don't really know what she's going to be doing as a card.
But okay.
Also, I feel as if, like, they have, whoever the scientists are that come in that know how to create the, um, get the adrenaline juices flowing as you open a card pack animation thing.
They hired those people to come in and do the spin the thing.
And then the thing lights up and then they all line up and then you tap them one by one.
And then they, are you getting the serotonin?
Like it's overdrive.
I would agree with you, except the cards don't even reach the top of the screen.
Oh, other games have the big explosion that fills up the artwork.
When I, when I grab a card in, in, say, Runeterra out of a pack, the, the, the card act, the cards length, you know, the height will be about 80% of the screen space.
And you can look at it.
Okay.
Very clearly.
And in the, in the like view cards to make a deck, I was also blown away at how small the cards were in Tepin.
It's weird.
So they're kind of,
The cards are your biggest thing.
And the art is good.
So they're like, honestly, they're kind of more like chips because when they're at the bottom of your screen, they're chip sized.
And when you place them on their spots, they're chip sized.
They're only really full sized cards when you examine them to look at the full artwork and read the, the, the flavor text.
But they, they pretty much amount to like, like Majong tiles almost, you know.
Yeah.
On that, I gotta say, you're completely right when you click on them to examine the flavor text, you can totally get the, see the good artwork.
Problem is, is that Tepin really doesn't want you spending time looking at your card in your hand.
Don't do that.
Reading its flavor text, which was my number one issue when I was swapping around different characters, where I was like clicking on it to be like, okay, what does this guy do?
And as I'm doing that, I'm losing valuable time.
Right.
Right.
So the only time I got to really read them was I would place all of them at random.
And then I would click on them afterwards to go, okay, so what's this guy going to do?
Yeah.
So in theory, like when you're, when, when you have a bit more time, ironically, you would before starting the match, like look at the deck that like, I don't know, whatever Nero has and like you would click on each one and then go like, oh, okay, this does this, that does that.
And then you just go through them and then kind of learn it a little bit.
But um,
So I'm like actually loading up, uh, like Lerunterra on my phone right now to like show off what I mean by like the card sizes.
So I'll take a screenshot.
Um, it's just, it was, it's out of all the stuff in Tepin, there's a lot of stuff there to like, but I just couldn't understand why, like, is the, the, the crossover stuff is like, look at all these characters, look at all these weird characters.
And because of the speed that I had to play them, I didn't get to appreciate them most of the time.
Mm-hmm.
Do, um, does Runeterra, for example, does each card that you put down have like an animation for like what that card does?
Uh, depends.
The ones that, the ones that do things, most of the time they'll have generic animations.
Okay.
Um, and the, but, uh, the champion cards, which are, I mean, unique to Runeterra, Tepin doesn't even have an equivalent.
Uh, they have custom animations, even if they would overlap with something else.
So, so like, uh, there's, there's a card called, uh, that has a keyword called Challenger where you get to pick who blocks it.
You just drag and drop.
But if Thresh is the one that's doing it because that's a hero from League that has a grappling hook, he'll actually throw out a grappling hook and grab him.
So high, high end, uh, and legendary cards in Tepin do have unique animations.
Um, but the average random cards don't.
Like it'll usually have the big expensive ones and the rarer ones.
So for example, when like, um, uh, I don't know, when, um, Nightmare shows up, you actually see the Goop come out of the slot and form the Nightmare card.
Oh, I love the Goop.
And then, and then it like sets into place or like Rathalos drops in and then like a big flame explosion shows up and shit like that.
So, so well as I just set you two screenshots of what I'm talking about, that's off of my phone.
Okay.
So the cards are have the, the artwork is 90% of the frame of the card.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like it's, it's like I had readability problems.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
So this is, and that's, and Gwent was, was similar with that too.
Yeah.
Okay.
Right.
And magic is similar as well.
Yeah.
No.
Tepin is a way.
Yeah.
They have them like tiles.
They're much smaller than that.
Fair enough.
I, I understand what you mean.
Um, I liked my time with it, but it's, it's just not for me.
They're also, of course, is a certain point too.
You should all play it though.
Hashtag.
It's sponsored.
There, there's also a point where, you know, um, like, I guess you get to the point where
you're like, yeah, I've seen this artwork.
I know the deal.
I'm just also just playing my functions at this point.
Um, but, uh, I, I'm, I'm all in favor of them.
Like, yeah, it would, a UI overhaul wouldn't be too bad though.
It, it has increased.
Um, it has, it has improved over like early on because I did see like, I remember like
the, the, uh, first version of the, um, this, the battle screen itself with like the, the
characters and the cage and the points, they were even smaller and the cards were smaller
and then the, the, the tiles were smaller and the characters artwork was like everything
was just more zoomed out and they, they, they did revise it and crop everything tighter
and zoom in a lot more.
So like, yeah, I could see an overhaul happening at some point, but, uh,
I wouldn't, I wouldn't have, um, yeah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't have thought of that,
that, that, that artwork issue in particular.
But yeah, it's a fun game.
Well, I would, I would mainly place that on the fact that you don't have much experience
in any of these other ones.
Uh, can I tweet the.
It's just a normal screenshot of, of, of Runeterra.
Right.
Just of what it looks like.
Yeah.
Just look on the, on the phone.
But I mean, I'll pull them up.
I'll pull them up.
I don't give a shit.
Um, uh, I also, after playing, also I've been feeding all over Runeterra this week.
The, they're doing an event now and, and I like, I like the game.
Um, I think it's a good game to play.
Uh, I also, how many people every time Teppen comes up, people, how many people are just
like, yeah, but you should play this other game.
I like though it seems very clear that card game people are not necessarily into what
Teppen's doing and they also want me to not be into what Teppen is doing or they want
me to be into what the other card games are doing.
Well, I think it's, I think it's a, a absolutely natural thing to do that if you were playing
a lot of street fighter, somebody would go, Hey man, have you checked out guilty gear?
Yeah.
No, definitely that makes sense.
But like the, but the difference, but I guess, I guess the, the, the, the sometimes it's
just that, and then sometimes it's like, you know, I don't like this, but like I'm also
saying that you can check this out and maybe make the switch, you know, I mean, I, I would
personally recommend that you try Runeterra mainly because it's the easiest game to play
completely for free, but like if the characters mean that much to you, then obviously it's
not going to have the same thing for you.
For me personally, when I started playing Hearthstone, like, yeah, look, that's a character
I know from Warcraft, but Warcraft War has turned to complete garbage.
Even by the time Hearthstone came out and boy, we'll have more to talk about that later.
But like, I, they're all there, you know what combo fiend was right, but it was only right
about card games.
Uh, yeah, I don't care if it's Magneto, I actually just want to play an aggro deck.
I actually just want to play a control deck or what have you.
Like I said, I though I gave Gwent a shot and I did, I did enjoy it for a bit.
I did enjoy it for a bit.
I, I highly dislike Gwent in it's, uh, in it's like non, in it's multiplayer format,
I think, uh, I think Gwent is just, uh, don't care for it.
So anyway, I was playing a lot of Runeterra, yada yada, I'm putting up a comparison image
so people know what I'm talking about on, uh, on my Twitter right now.
And I also, when I was looking on the internet, I discovered something that I didn't quite
understand, which was, um, League of Legends Wild Rift, which I did, I was like, what is
that?
Is that some mobile baby version of League of Legends for your phone?
And then I downloaded it and discovered that it is not a mobile baby version of League
of Legends for your phone, it's just League of Legends on your phone.
And more than that is that there are real, real improvements to League made to this game
by stripping it down.
Like the matches are half the length and they've rebuilt all of the assets from the
ground up and so now all the, everything has fancy animations.
And it's also a game that you're playing with a digital joystick and buttons and will
be a console version at the end of the year.
And I'm playing it and I'm like, I don't like that I'm using digital buttons here.
But I am having so much more fun playing it with digital buttons than a mouse.
It is like night and day in terms of my enjoyment.
And the timing on that was perfect because I was looking at everybody enjoying Pokemon
Unite, which is actually very popular and quite good, which also controls with a controller.
The fucking, just a screenshot of shoutouts to Jamcrofts on Twitter who was just like,
hey, FGC, y'all need to step your game up.
And it's just a screenshot of like eight or nine videos that are like Pokemon Unite
definitive tier list.
This is the tier list boys get in here and like all the YouTube search results and it's
like game released July 21st.
And it's just like like like the most reactionary day six tier list you've ever seen get the
fuck in like Jesus Christ.
What is what is letting the dust settle?
You know, anyway, that's about right.
So there's a faster controller based console targeted version of League of League coming
and it's being put out on the phone.
And I was like, what they do is it's really simple as when you get close to an enemy a
little circle underneath it happens and it's like, that's what you will be attacking.
If you hit the attack button and it will depend on where your character is pointing.
And I can only imagine the console is going to use the right analog stick for like trick
shots and triggers for the four abilities and I'm looking at it and I'm like, okay.
It's a different version of the game going to be like what people want though like isn't
the thing just to get into League proper and that's your know, this is this is going to
be a parallel.
I guess it's all in how they market it or how much they invest in it or whatever.
This is going to be the phone and console game.
And when I talked about it on Twitter, I saw a few people that were like, I prefer regular
League.
It's too dumbed down.
But the overall majority is anything to make the game shorter, absolutely anything to make
the game shorter and they've put way more work into this one like on a production level.
It's way nicer than League is currently not even close.
Not even close.
I guess it's because it's super old at this point.
So when you when you pick a character in this, there's a gigantic 3D animation of them swooping
in and, you know, doing a gimmick and then all sorts of shit.
When you, you know, choose to unlock them in regular League, it's a fucking web page
inside their own launcher.
Okay.
Like, like it's it's like it's almost like an overwatch, like a vacation of the League
stuff.
Well, how much has like League itself updated visually over the last decade?
So if you go back and look at the original version of League, it's like hideous.
I think they've had two complete reworks of the entire of every single graphics thing.
And there are occasionally some of the old heroes that didn't get upgraded yet.
So I was playing the game when Fiddlesticks went from being the old graphics to the new
graphics and was like dramatically improved for complete overhauls.
People are saying, okay, but it's still it really feels like this will probably roll
back in to the adult version of League as it were.
But even beyond that, League, and I think Dota is a little bit the same, but I'm not
I don't, I'm not familiar on it.
League has a giant problem with its game time, and that is at the eight minute mark you can
determine that you have lost.
And then you're stuck in for the rest of it.
I remember it will take you another half hour to lose and a 20 minute loss is a lot easier
to swallow than a 40 minute loss.
This game cutting that, and I guess potentially, I don't know, having a console base of players
to to play with and such.
This is really ridiculously big, but you look at Fortnite and most of its players are on
consoles.
So who knows, right?
Who knows?
It sounds interesting.
It's an interesting proposition.
It certainly is something that like as someone who has no fucking, you know, horse in this
race, I'm like, okay, yeah, I would.
Hey, Willie, when it comes out on consoles, you want to do a stream, I'll team up with
you.
I'll play my Mordekaiser.
I'll look at it sideways.
I'll glance at it sideways and make a call when this officially invited.
I'll see what's up.
I've already gotten the list of of woolly characters that people have.
Oh, whatever.
The first one on that list is V. I know.
I know.
But it was like, I think at the side cut in the punch arms, you don't like jungling.
No, I'm saying, I'm saying people over the years have been like, okay, but look at this
one, though, and look at that one, though.
And then I think when we when we were looking at it, we were coming up with the theoretical
fighting game roster.
That's when it was like, um, pared down.
But I also remember I went out to a local meetup, there was a couple of years ago and
like talk to some of the FGC guys about like who of these hundreds of characters would
make the, um, the cut of a fighting game roster and, uh, a lot, a lot.
Well, there was a solid.
I forgot.
I brought them up back then, but there was a solid 20 or so that were like, yeah, everyone's
in agreement.
Like, um, Illinois, yes, right.
And Thresh and this and that.
There's a certain list of ones that are like, oh yeah, these would make for good fighting
game characters.
There's a lot that are like complete slam dunks.
Jinx has to be in that game as the keep away character as well as being like the pseudo
face of League of Legends.
Um, did I?
I want to say like, I saved a note, but maybe I didn't, but yeah, point being, uh, Wild
Rift is like, I'm looking at it and it's like, I'm not going to spend time on my phone playing
this because boy, I hate digital joysticks, but I might spend time on my blue stacks playing
it with a real controller that's pretending to be a digital joystick.
Um, and then later on, you can't do a PlayStation.
You can do, but you can do like X box pad to phone, can't you?
Not this game.
You can't.
Uh, that sucks.
Okay.
Cause I got saying with the Apple Arcade shit, like they got that working like pretty well.
So yeah, Wild Rift is like, I look at it and I go, this is the league that I wanted
to play originally.
My old man brain does better with my controller than my mouse.
I found the list.
It was found the list besides Yasuo.
Yeah.
The title of the, what about his brother?
His brother's the dark samurai.
Shadow.
Yeah.
Um, besides Yasuo, uh, which is the time of the list, there was, um, Riven, Uder, Blitzcrank,
Volibear, V Lee Sin, Thresh, Master Yi, and Ilyoi.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Take, uh, take Blitzcrank out and put Nautilus in.
They're literally the same character with the same gimmick, but Blitzcrank is a shittier
looking version of Nautilus.
Okay.
Sure.
Oh, what about Mordekaiser and Atrox?
That list sucks.
Okay.
Where's Warwick?
I don't know.
Did I even say them correctly?
I don't fucking.
Yeah.
You said, you said most of them correctly.
Okay.
This is funny because people are arguing with me that Blitzcrank is better, but my love
of Nautilus does not come from League.
It comes from Rutera, where I love playing Nautilus decks, and that's the trick.
That's the trick they're doing because if they put that fighting game out and Nautilus
is in it, I'll go, dude, I love Nautilus, even though I don't even like him in the fucking
game that he is actually from.
Yeah, no, I mean, look, like Cami with roller skates is cooler than Cami without roller
skates.
Yeah, that's true.
I don't even know who that is.
Canons by Cammies.
This is the fucking best, you know?
Sometimes you want that version or the X in Teppin, who has the Angel Halo and shit.
So by the way, I mentioned Pokemon Unite earlier.
I'm going to stream it this week, and part of my stream is going to be telling people
not to let their kids play it, as it's a free-to-play MOBA with the Pokemans in it, which seems
like that would be, at worst, a gateway to little Jimmy's toxicity.
Guess what?
Pokemon Unite is unironically the most predatory MOBA in terms of monetization.
I was about to ask, how's the gacha gamble?
It's the worst one by a country mile, because it's the only one that lets you roll, pay
to roll on loot boxes that give you in-match advantages on your next match.
What do you mean by in-match advantages?
More health, more power.
Oh, like buffs, straight up.
Like straight buffs.
Roll the dice, you can maybe win your next match.
It's actually pay to win.
I was watching Charlie stream it the other day, and the name of his stream was called
pay to win.
Okay, so there's no game here then.
There is, and apparently it's pretty good.
But it doesn't matter.
If what you just said is what you said it is, then it doesn't matter.
There's no game here.
We got a quote from somebody named ChaosJoey in the chat, maxing out a stat giving item
costs $40.
And these items are permanent stat buffs?
Yeah.
Yeah, this is, that's, no, there's no game here.
That's a joke.
That makes, like, what's the, why even bother, like, no, that's okay.
That is a disqualifier from entry for me, if it's literally by the way, like, that's
crazy, by life.
That's nuts.
Okay, well.
That's the absolute, isn't that the wildest thing?
So I'm going to stream it and, you know, I'll probably put it, you know, the original plan
was to stream that for a whole stream.
I'm probably going to stream it for like two hours and then switch over to a wild rift
on an emulator or something like that.
Can you get, can you unlock with these things free?
I assume the answer is eventually.
Can you play for free and store up a bunch and then buy these things?
Eventually.
I think somebody actually just broke out the phrase $120 for a 3% movement buff.
In the chat.
Ah, people are talking about Charlie's stream.
You played for eight hours and only upgraded one item, two levels.
But does it have all?
It's the it's the question between $40 and dozens and dozens of hours, but does it have
all the Pokemon?
No, well, fuck no.
Also also on top of that, paid like eight bucks for a Gengar, well, also buy Pokemon.
I might actually change that out of my schedule to come to think of it.
That game's dirty.
That game's dirty, dude.
It didn't need to be.
Yeah, you want to bet how much big money they've made.
Oh, for sure.
And they would have because it's the name is there.
But holy shit, man.
It somehow put the veil on, pretend there's a competitive angle to this.
Mask it with mask it with Pokemans.
How about that?
Pretend there's a game to be played here.
That sounds really bad.
It does sound really bad, doesn't it?
You think it's because it's really bad?
I mean, it sounds like if you can if you can play and get it for free, then I guess the
idea it's almost like you're buying experience is kind of what it sounds like.
I'm not sure if that's what it works out.
It's the battlefield equivalent of give us $200 to unlock every gun.
Just purchase.
Yeah, purchasing.
I don't know if you remember that.
I remember hearing about not was that no.
What was the first game with battle passes?
The first, I believe it was Fortnite.
Was it Fortnite?
Okay.
I believe it was.
I don't know enough to know, but I remember there being like a really, really like angry
moment of like this thing costs money, but like it's a rip off and there's a whole lot
of.
But I don't.
I mean, some battle passes are like the Fortnite battle passes tend to be quite good.
The Runeterra one that just came out that I did was also pretty good for its cost.
The Apex one, I don't know if you remember that, but that was a joke.
That was like hilarious.
I do remember.
Hey, pay $20 and you can get some skins where we threw mud on some of the characters.
It was unbelievable.
Cool.
Well, since we like moved over through Teppin with a baton pass there, yeah, over on my
stream this week, like I said, possibly going to finish off Disco Elysium going to, I'm
going to see if I have time for a special stream, but things are getting perder.
Bruiserie shows a bit rough, but yeah, that's coming up as well as getting to fighting games.
And I also did a couple of like just really long strife sets that are going to be on the
channel.
So I did a Celestial.
Oh, that's nice.
Yeah, I just, I was hitting the Celestial Tower for a bit and then playing with some
people that we're watching.
And then me and Reggie did like some really long sets too.
So for those of you who have been tuning in recently that I've seen some pretty good feedback
from people that are like, Hey, it's nice to see like regular check-ins on a game and
see the improvement over time.
Yeah.
If you're enjoying that, there's some strife sets come into the channel that are just like
couple hours grinding away at it, trying to figure out labbing, matchups, learning, etc.
So you're watching the discovery process essentially as I try to get better at a game.
So you can see what that is like and you know, hopefully have your own journey and enjoy
that over on the.
You know, check out my crap on twitch.tv slash Pat stairs that we're going to be finished
off the Mass Effect 2 DLC this week and maybe Pit lane Pokemon Unite and Great Ace Attorney.
So there is one more thing I'd just like to mention before we get off my week.
Watched Mao Mao, the cartoon, Mao Mao, I want to say it's called Heroes of Pure Heart, which
I thought was going to be a lot more saccharine than it was.
That's a great little adventure show.
It's fantastic.
It's absolutely hilarious.
I would put it not quite adjacent to adventure time in it's absurdity.
It's a lot more structured.
How do you spell that little M.A.O. M.A.O.
OK, Mao. Not M.A. like meow meow.
Not as in the huge black canyon uprising
from the 1950s.
No, I'm no talking about the black cat hero character from the cartoon show.
OK.
Because the Mao Mao's is a big, big African thing.
Yeah, I know the long and short of it, two cartoon hero types get stuck defending what
is essentially a fucking country of care bears in that the care bears are all disgusting
freaks and they're kind of horrible and I hate them.
It's good.
OK, very good.
OK.
OK, but why the woolly?
I don't know.
I like fucking it's what comes to mind most deaf references in a bunch.
It's a thing you hear about it in hip hop sometimes.
And then it's also per his store.
I don't know what the fuck it's this.
Anyways, cool.
All right.
Well, anyway.
M.A.U. M.A.U.
Is what I was referring to there.
But OK, we can
don't know what you're talking about.
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That's OK.
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It's all right.
Like the chairman from China.
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I feel as if there's a streak
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is like
doing a 5-6 hour stream
and be like whoa
I'm sweaty I'm gonna get out of here
alright let's quit playing
rated by 300p
ah
hey butter buds
actually butter buds I think she's rated me with like 6700
which like doubled the stream at that point
so I was like hey
so that's the thing I'm just I'm finishing up
raiding is a really cool feature
that like uh smart that twitch has
and like it's something that is like
definitely more community productive
than like uh
youtube but like
it does this thing where
you sometimes land on
someone who was just winding down
and is desperately in need
of a break
and then they go oh fuck me
this is an opportunity
I have to come back now
I have to take this chance
to sell you on clicking the follow button
so you know
now you get to watch someone like
kind of dead getting
puppeted by like the
the new potential audience and they're like
okay I guess we'll go for another
10 minutes and that's like
I rated somebody
doing the same thing
finishing up after like a 8-9 hour stream
and I rated them with a couple
100 people and they're like hey
good stream guy
oh hey we were about to call it
exactly I guess we could do
one more game
yeah yeah there's great
there's always there's always someone
you know
much more massive that can drop in a number
that bulges your eyes and you go
fuck
time extended gotta gotta dance
gotta dance
speaking of time extended
I forgot to talk about
the other game I played this week super liminal
oh yeah you finally hopped on to that
did you did you see Paige's stream
and then be like oh man that game looks cool
like the timing was hilarious no not at all
solidus had been pushing it
for a long time and Reggie
was out for the day
so I was like well I'm doing a solo stream
let's jump on
this game that has been pushed
for a long time
it's a good game
I like it
did she just go through it
yeah she streamed last week she got
I want to say about halfway through
okay
yeah so we got through the whole thing
and
it's great it's fucking good
it's real good
I
there was only one puzzle I think
where I kind of just rolled my eyes
at the solution
like it was
like I it was
like it was like I think it was like
the first fan room
where
like what they were going for
and like what the solution was
ended up being a little
um
not
unclear because the perspective
rule continues
but I just I didn't
I didn't like the clue to how it was
set up as much but
the rest of it definitely and like everything else
was fucking incredible
the
I know you said you got through half so I won't talk too much about like
no no no
Paige got through half oh you beat it
I streamed it back on release sick
like the day it came out so and beat
it in one go and I got into
like I had a little
trouble at the beginning and then I got into this like perfect state
where
once once the crescendo
starts to happen I think
you know what I'm talking about near the end I just
like walked through
every puzzle just like it's like
there there this this this oh it's
so good it's fantastic that came
so good I
I definitely think
the um like
the way you
fuck with like the
portaling section of it in particular
is like it's a funner
way like portaling is fun but this is
like a funner aspect to it when you like
just playing with scale and size
you know and
it gets really
unnerving when something
becomes like crush
you sized above your head
yeah that's the one thing from the trailers I
remember being like oh that is fucking terrifying
like
because perspective of something
mundane becoming
kill you murder sized
never feels good it is always like
you know
there's uh
I talked about it well I talked about
this a good deal when it came out
but did you ever play
anti chamber I played the first
like 10 minutes of it
good enough anti chamber
is a it's a very like
white and black line kind of
non euclidean space game
and I love like portal has
that a little bit where it's like perspective
and things and visual illusion
and impossible space
but the problem with anti chamber was the
halfway through it became a block puzzle game
okay and they had they had
forgotten all they
they hadn't forgotten but they had run out of cool
perspective tricks okay
uh super liminal is
short it's like four and a half
hours I'd say three
uh yeah about
there and it doesn't run out of
those things yeah it ends
when they run out exactly short
and sweet the other thing too
is it's using
a concept that
like is you
know novel but the presentation
is something that we've already done a couple
times too because
the clean sterile office
or lab environment in
which you then slowly
sneak off the grid
like portal was that
Stanley parable is that
the beginners yeah guide is that
to a degree
it's not particularly a new
thing so you don't want to overstay
your welcome when you're kind of playing with a new idea
in a narrative that you've already experienced
um so they yeah
they definitely did good with that
uh the what I'd say like besides
the the dreaded scale of some of the things you
drop sometimes there is also
the um creating
the paradox you know like
the moment there's a moment where you
are holding a portal and
like a portal house and you walk out
of the door of
that portal house while holding it
that makes me super uncomfortable
still like it feels like you're
bug testing and it wants you to do
that and it then the end result is like
I don't like it I did it's very
uncomfortable so that I like the fact
that this game like deliberately wants
you to feel discomfort in these
moments you know um
plays with shadows really great moment
plays with shadows and darkness
really well walk into
the complete abyss
and the only thing that lets you know where
you're going is the light of where you
once were looking behind you you know like
shit like that's pretty great
uh super liminal is uh yeah short
and sweet really really really good
good
um worth a shout out and now I see
what all the all the shilling
was about
mm-hmm um
okay so on to
is there is there any news
this week well
there
there appears to be some news
I'm not sure if
there's news this week
before we get into the news I just want
to say you know Pat um you
might not know this but I just want
you to be aware might that your voice does
matter
my voice matters every voice matters
oh that's true
every single voice even the ones we don't
listen to and explicitly
ignore and create a culture
of ignoring
uh no those voices matter
the most of all
yeah uh that showing up on
poorly aged things
was uh
who didn't see that comment
but um
no clever segue
Blizzard is on fire
Activision Blizzard I should specify
is on fire
why are they on fire what possible reason
could story developer Activision Blizzard
be on fire for
for the exact same story that
Ubisoft was on fire for
not too long ago actually
it's this it's that story
plus one
it's the upgraded version of that story
plus lawsuit
no that
story plus death
this is true
so
um
I mean this has been
updating
by the hour
uh yeah it's it's
it's a really
it's uh I want to say four
day old story five day old story and
it is
really long now
and there is all it's
real real long
a lot to
it but
so I have like the latest
update here
going back to
the
the breaking story is that
essentially the state
of California is suing Activision Blizzard
for what it's calling
a pervasive frat boy
workplace culture in which female staff
were often subject to harassment
and the lawsuit includes
descriptions of
just
lots of bad things happening
including cube crawls
and copious amounts
of
booze where they crawl through the cubicles
and inappropriate behavior towards female employees
in general female employees feeling unsafe
lots of
I want to stop that for a second because the cubicle crawl part
is bearing
actual explanation because I was talking to somebody
about this yesterday
and the description
of cubicle crawl as it hit their
head was
walking around to people's
cubicles drunk
and getting people drunk as if it were
a pub crawl
right however
the cubicle crawl listed
in the lawsuit from the government of California
against Activision Blizzard
is specifically
a bunch of rowdy dudes getting
wasted at the
office and literally
crawling on their hands and knees
underneath
everyone's cubicle so as to
grope and or ogle
the female employees sitting
at their desks
so
that's
that's
your iceberg tip
of sorts
and then
the level of
shitty behavior towards female employees
extends as far
as a
one employee who was
on a
work trip with their boss
who
it would appear
was I guess they were
traveling together and the
boss brought along side
sex toys and things like that
and was bragging about
how he was going to score basically
and
there were
illicit pictures of this
employee that were shared
throughout the company and that employee then committed
suicide on the work trip
it really reads like
this poor lady killed herself
in order to avoid being
sexually assaulted by her boss
the most blunt reading possible
as this is apparently a boss
who had been sexually harassing her in the past
that they sent her on a trip with
so lots of this
lots of discussion about
looking at this and looking at other
similar situations
where you have a company where there's lots of people
who are higher up that are
known perpetrators, known people
that are shitty and that
are being protected
by the people who
by the powers that be you have
the jokes about this
boss for example having the Crosby sweet
which is a reference to
Bill Crosby
or I believe
it's a typo in the
complaint okay so it's the Cosby sweets
it's supposed to be Cosby sweets
exactly so there you go
then you know
all of that
goes down
and it involves
like
tons and tons and tons of employees
all verifying and backing this up once again
and similar to the Ubisoft story about
this shit culture
and the company
which then
leads to
their official response
being effectively
uh
and they get a nice
way
what
there were three official responses
within hours
that's the best part
okay
so the official response
from the Activision CEO
and the Blizzard CEO
was that these are
very serious allegations
that must be taken
seriously and to contact
them if you want to snitch on
your boss for being a creepy-toucher
because we had no idea this was
going on and then
within minutes of those going out
the chief compliance officer for Activision
Blizzard parent company
put out a
statement saying that
the state of California
is full of shit
and that they made the whole thing up
and then the official
Activision Blizzard came out
where they said that this is one of the reasons
why businesses are leaving
California because this kind
of overzealous
government oversight
and now
two days ago
Activision and Blizzard
specifically
have said that we have
this is a deep
they didn't know what was happening
and that they're very
sorry for nothing
because nothing happened
and literally all three entities here
are all playing
leapfrog as to nothing happened
but if it did we're really sorry
and come tell us about what happened
so we can deal with the people that did this
even though no one did anything
and also fuck you California
also fuck off California
how dare you look at us
in particular
on top of this
there's the detail
what is that guy's name
there's one particular director named
specifically
the gentleman with the Cosby suite
in which
he was described as like one of the worst
at the company
I forget his name
let's start with an A
I want to say
but
people talking about
they finally found out about him
Blizzard employees talking on twitter
and he left the company
so suddenly
that it was not known he did not work there
until like three months after he left
and in that twitter thread
you have what might be my favorite
part of this whole story
which is former
story man of Blizzard entertainment
Chris Medson who has not worked there
for eight years
accidentally name searching
himself by tweeting at the
thread
just replying to people talking about abusers
with the phrase Chris Medson
that's good
that's always good
Chris put out a statement earlier
today in which he describes
how sorry he is for not noticing
only to be
called out directly by former employees
going mother fucker
you're the one who told me
that I should stick to what I'm good at
taking notes and organizing meetings
and this is by a lady who is now
like a senior developer
like I forget what it was
but it was a MMO developer
she's quite talented and has had
a prolific career since then
and also
my favorite part about all this
is that all the people who worked at Blizzard
all the old
hands of Blizzard did you remember
they all left 18 months ago
like all of the senior staff
just fucked off
about six months into the
government of California's investigation
into the workplace
suddenly they all quit
so that's what I was about to bring up
is that this investigation has been going on for two years
this has been a
large full ass thing
that the
the DFEH
was
looking into
and
after
a two year investigation which
all the people that have left within the timeframe
of this investigation suddenly
it makes a ton of sense
it was so weird how all these
classic Blizzard employees
all just bailed all at the same
time right away
and then the phrasing of the
statement given in response directly from Activision
was
to call this irresponsible behavior
from unaccountable state bureaucrats
like
I think
Side note reminder that Bobby
Coddick was on Epstein's
plane
so just Bobby Coddick
I mean that guy who killed himself
oh yes
that guy
Side note that he was on the Epstein plane by the way
in case that was so
I retweeted a gentleman who
expressed the thought
but I think it's the thought that everyone had
which is the line from
Jay Allen Brack and all
the old Blizzard guard
who would have been at the top
of the company during the worst of this
have all come out and said
guys we're really sorry
we just never noticed
we didn't listen
and it's like
there is explicit
investigatory
documentation
of groups of dudes showing up
to work wasted
and having a party crawling under people's
desks groping each other
a practice that must
have been going on for years and years
well you didn't notice
I've seen game development
offices they're giant spaces
you can look across the room
when most of them you didn't
what you didn't see that
and the
and the fact that this is a
like at this point almost
expected and continued narrative across
tons of large companies
where these practices get
again
super shuffled to the fucking bottom
of the
of the
priority list and
the fact that like HR
is then set up to be
explicitly anti
victim
and entirely
human corporate defense
human resources
is not about being pro employee
human resources is in order to
prevent the company from being sued
exactly and you see
this time and time again and
this is just another exact replica
of that
situation in which
you can follow along
I was again talking I have a friend
who literally
went through the ringer with that
like had to deal with it first
hand and had to have her complaint
get completely ignored time
and time again and then when forcing
it and putting it to confrontation
eventually it's the equivalent of
taking your
taking your your molesting
priest out of the parish
and moving them over to another one
or over to a different department or
back to the Vatican they literally just
shuffle employees around
so that you won't be around
the person who was the abuser
anymore and that's the end
of that
fucking insanity so
that
then of course progresses
lots of things get involved I believe
the
chief legal officer they hired
working on this used to work for George
you Bush so that was
wild she was the one
she was the compliance officer who came out
and pulled
a very typical political
line of like the fucking
governments overstepping their bullshit
big the biggest guns
and
yeah so what then
obviously started to
happen was the employees
who were aware
of this and then
seeing the story unfold
then saw the response
that they put out which was the company
basically going fuck you
and no
great company good company
no touch and
the result
has been that
over a thousand
employees have been like
fuck this have signed letters of condemnation
against the company
and work
on for example World of Warcraft
has entirely stopped
I can imagine
it's not just wow that's the one
we have confirmation on but I can imagine
development across the board
is just done
right now until
something happens so yeah that was coming
from Jeff Hamilton on
Twitter who's saying
no work is being done
as this all plays out no one
really knows what to do
everyone is kind of just like
completely dumbstruck
at the fact that
this kind of story
well mainly that like again
the story is a slow bleed for anyone that has been
in the company watching this
whole investigation take place
but the response has been
baffling because they're just like
nah fuck it none of this is important
didn't happen doesn't line just the
complete deflection the complete lack of
we're very sorry and you can talk to us
about the thing that didn't happen
and when you're a
giant corporate beast of this size
of course there's always
going to be that
initial like
confusing messaging period
but like the first
message coming out and being this
completely dismissive
of stories that are literally including as you
mentioned death
um I can see
it's the instantaneous
reaction from anyone at that company expecting
that this might have led to
a massive overhaul in the
company culture
seeing that they're like now we're going to fight it
fuck you all
being like so this is why
even when all the chips have
settled sorry and the dust
is settled and
whoever needs to get fired so there's no
lawsuit gets fired
still just going to
go right back to what it was
eventually because there's definitely people
that you must imagine are
like look everyone is
everyone's looking at their CV at all times
you never never fucking know what's going on
and a lot of people that are
here following this again
like must be going
well here it is
let's see how this goes and
at best this will lead
to a
overturn a cleansing a massive
shift in things
or fucking nothing
and if fucking nothing
has been the you know
the response of the
the flavor of the response to date
then like would
Activision dollars
not step in here to
spend as much as they can on legal defense
of all this shit
will Activision dollars buy back the good
will that's being burned away
like I'm not a lawyer
but it is my impression
that a gov a state
government like
employment body
that spends the time
to interview and investigate
a company for multiple years
only to publicly
blast them open with a lawsuit
I'm pretty sure California
has this in the bag
it's wild that
like that's the degree
this is at because
that's so much
further and more
like that's so much further
along than like oh yeah
chronic dream with the shitting dickenballs
and David cage
yelling out some dumb shit and
that was all press
you know what's crazy that wasn't
even the government that was just the press
and and stories of Ubi and
like all and like all these like
stories that have come out where they're just like yeah fucking
dirt bags
are out and about here and
they're being shuffled and protected
that's always just bring like stories
leaks you know
former employees talking about what their
experiences have been and whatnot but like this one is like
straight up massive
giant legal
fucking uh
like it's
accusations more than more than just
hair say more than just
words more than just stories like
a literal lawsuit
they're going to court and they're probably
gonna lose to some degree
and
uh
it's it's
it's kind of wild
that all the former
heads of the company that
no longer they're all hitting twitter with their like
novels
saying man I just never
noticed like chris medicines the one that pops
to mind because it's his like the name
searching himself is just the funniest thing
but um and it's just like
this I couldn't
believe any of it less
you cannot tell me
that you ran this company
for decades
and you just never
saw it that kind
of allowance for behavior
starts at the top
that behavior starts at the
top and it goes downward
I think another way of looking
at it too is
um
to start from the top
and look downward
if
someone
dying
as a result of what's happening
doesn't change
anything
then what will
well I can tell you exactly
what that is
because the same people who are
bowing their heads in
false contriteness about how sorry
it is
look at somebody killing themselves
due to the stresses imparted upon
them by their work and the relationships
they're in inappropriate as they were
and go wow that's so
sad
and that's the end of the thought
no examination
and if somebody asked them
hey man
why do you think she did it
guess they were just crazy
the official response letter
actually makes reference to it
and uses it as a moment
to be indignant
we are sickened by the reprehensible
how dare you bring up this person's death
of the DFEH to drag into the complaint
of a tragic suicide of an employee
who's passing has no bearing whatsoever
on this case and no regard for her grieving family
when it sounds like
it had everything to do with this case
I mean
my initial thing was like
that kind of indignation
better come along with the family
also saying how dare you
but somehow I don't think it is
somehow I think
a family who's
family member kills themselves
due to this kind of scenario isn't going
how could you possibly use this
to fucking
shit on the company they worked for
everything was great there
I don't think that's the reality
I think when people die
in these circumstances family members
are looking for any kind of closure
or justice
out of the situation
so yeah
all of that leads to
thousands of employees
not knowing
what the fuck to do
because this is
what are you going to do start taking orders
on what to work on from somebody that you're pretty sure
is going to get fired in three days
because this is one of the worst possible
ways this could have played out
as far as response goes
knowing the bomb is going to drop is one thing
but getting your response team
ready
and having
the EMTs ready to go
and then
spraying oil
I can only imagine there are a lot of people
brushing up on those CVs
and resumes right now
like
the real story
takes place on LinkedIn
always remember in about two months
in all of these cases
the real story takes place on LinkedIn
every single time
um
um
it's astonishing because
Ubisoft
long
scummiest video game publisher that I'm aware of
had a story this week
and was set to be the scum of the week
and Activision Blizzard
not to be outdone
always got that Blizzard quality
best of the best
even in scandal
just stole it away from them
and I'd like to make a statement
I talked about Rune Terror earlier today
and right before we came into this
segment where I was shitting all over Blizzard
deservedly
somebody pointed out that Riot was also
a frat boy shithole
with sexist hiring practices
and all sorts of stuff
and
and I have to be blunt
is that I have really really
bad news for people that enjoy
video games
what's that bad news Pat?
I
remember when the Riot stuff came out
and I said I bet a ton of companies are like
this and we either won't know
but you can assume
and then all the Ubisoft
came out and then
now the Activision Blizzard stuff comes out
it's like I'm under the assumption
that almost any game company over a certain size
is housing
just a bunch of criminals
just like most jobs
I can tell you right now
I know at least one company that
has got a bunch of thieves in it
just a ton of them
so
when
I sat down and
recorded a podcast episode
talking about the old
QA days and the various companies
that we worked for
the last willy will figure it out
when I sat down with
James, a former person that I used to work with
and we just kind of reminisced on some of this shit
and
from day one
there was always
immediately identifiable
creeps that
would pass the test
so to speak
make the cut, get it show up
and within hours
of them being
at the company
show you, oh yeah, you can't trust
this person
around like a woman
you can't trust them
to their tasks, you can't trust this person at all
this person is insanely dangerous
and
it was always
a
race of like, okay
will
anything happen here, will they do anything about it
or will they just let it rock and go like
oh, we're not going to take it too seriously
and once that person gets
promoted, that's exactly
what I was about to say
and if you
fail the race
and the person then gets put into
a position of being in the click
now, you're a group, you've gotten promoted
you're now a manager, you're now a sub manager
you're now a group leader, whatever the case is
you're now in a position, they're indispensable man
we got to ship this, we don't have time
to get a new whatever
and then you watch as the first
taste of immunity starts
to show up
and like, the severity
of what the fuck they do
doesn't go down, it always gets
weirder and weirder and
and eventually you get mighty number 9
um, yeah and like
I mean, there was like
there was a point where I
had like
people that were like really
just weird and like you had these stories
about shit that was happening with them
that you're like, that's fucked up
and you know, I left the company
and then finding out
like the trajectory of like how some
of these people went where
um, in this particular
case, like creepy behavior
went to like
literal sexual assault
into literal
like
story and like rape
accusations and like things
where you're like, yeah, you need
to like identify
that and get it the fuck
out of your company immediately
because that is good because
we got a ship dude, we got time for this
we got a ship because who knows
where the fuck that goes over time
especially when protected
you know, it's insane
um, so we literally talked about shit
like that and we talked about like
uh, just, and yeah, and just
the idea of like, yeah, like overall
um, these, the larger
the company, the moment they get past
that promotion point, as you just mentioned
you get into the game and then you get
you eventually are in a
a higher tier of really
important people that are
you know, an accusation comes against
you but you go for drinks
with the people who make the decisions
every time. Ah, it's not a big deal man
so they go, hey, what's
what's this about and then they get to hear
uh, the one side of the story
and then HR is also at the table
and they go, alright, yeah, we'll
we'll, don't worry about it
we got a ship, you know
these types of people, I want to attribute this
quote to Doc but I'm not super sure
he might have just been one of his retweets or somebody else
but these types
of people have a real
strong habit to immediately
make themselves quote
unquote, indispensable
to the task, by sabotaging
other people's tasks
and insinuating
that everything would just fall apart
without their management or expertise
uh, no one's ever
indispensable, ever
on anything, it's not
a real thing
everyone can be replaced
but the
the movers
and the shakers, so to speak
um, quite literally
are
always
not very good at hiding that
ambition you're describing
it's very, very
it goes hand in hand that like
people who come in and think that
that type of behavior is okay
people who are gonna lock you in a broom closet
and try to smell your hair
people who are gonna, you know, like
be like, yeah, that's just the way we roll
and you know
basically just go back to work
and try and are also the same types
that are trying to get the power
they're trying to get
they're trying to get everything, right?
it's that like
slightly indicative of sociopathic behavior
of just not giving a fuck about anything
happening around you and
you know, hitting up as high as you can
on the totem pole
um, so all this is just
to just reiterate that it's like
the more you
see that early on and let it slide
you are 100% guaranteed
going to be seeing
worse and worse versions of it over time
because the person is being given
essentially
a freebie, a pass
to say, hey, that wasn't a big deal
and if the person
who's the victim in this case is more disposable
than the person who is higher up
you know, well then
whatever, hopefully again
HR can step in and
either, you know
shuffle things around, buy the silence
do what they gotta do
and usually
there will be a contract or a document
or a thing to sign
that comes out right away
that completely absolves the company
from any
blame or whatever
this plays out, however it plays out
they get themselves nice and early absolved
from all responsibility
by handing those things out. Now how much those are actually legally binding?
I have no idea
do you know that they have those things
but they can look legally binding
but I know that like
HR will bring
that type of letter out
on meeting one
when you say, hey, I have a complaint about somebody
the first thing, the first first thing
is sign this
okay, now what happened?
so
you want a really good example
of the people at the top
let's say
let's imagine
that
whoever the head
person in charge of
Blizzard's hiring practices
senior staff
actually
didn't see anything
they hid in their office every day
and they never talked to a single employee
let's assume
this completely
unrealistic scenario
people have described
the hiring process
at Blizzard
and here's a perfect encapsulation
of how you help create the scenario
what is one of the factors
you absolutely need
to work at Blizzard
you have to be a
die-hard fan of Blizzard games
and love the company
before you even
walk in the door
it has to be a dream come true
for you
it means
that once you're hired
you A, won't be looking at your paycheck
for them fucking you over
at substandard rates
and B, you are
incentivized
to shut the fuck up
about any problem you ever encounter
because
I work at Blizzard man
I don't want to screw this up
I can get another job
but it's Blizzard
whatever
I bet it's not that big of a deal
this kind of practice
hiring your fanatics
creates this
day-to-day is serving up dream jobs
this is
what goes
this is the day-to-day offering
and that
definitely brings in
people that are
much more
I mean it's not to say that
they are just immensely talented
that are just shifting
from one studio
to another with an opening that
they can definitely crush a position on
absolutely but it is a self-selection process
to create
an attitude of
overvaluing
your work and the place in your work
and not wanting to rock the boat
I mean dude like you know
this is
all that age
my earliest dreams of
wanting to work for mainframe
was because I liked to reboot
I wanted to work for Capcom because I liked Street Fighter
it's just that simple
it's like you
if you were into RTS games it would have been Blizzard
whatever the case
there is a good period of time
in which they made the absolute hands down
best games in the world
with polish that would make Nintendo jealous
but all of that
I mean that's a thing
but that's still a very separate issue from
just like realizing that
um
this hiring process
will let in people
who are fucking creeps that need to be fired
oh yeah
and like just
not having
the
alarm bells
system in place
to identify that
within
whatever days to weeks it takes
to see that show up
and then like oust that person
and just don't even give it a second look
you know
is just not a thing
at any of these major triple A companies
and you would think
considering the fact that again
if you want to not be
in a shitty lawsuit
about sexual harassment
you would think the smartest move would be
the person on day one
of any of these infractions
to save the company in the end
that's how you actually protect the company
is you immediately
get rid of that person
because you can't trust that
that's a fucking liability
you know
hey you know what's a really good example of what we're talking about
of how this hiring process
can incentivize scumbags
so the person whose name
I could not remember
the one
who left
and could not be discovered
was a gentleman named
Alex Afrasiabi
who came on as a quest designer
after being the head
of a gigantic wow guild
so literally just hire
guild leaders
they're fanatics
they might also be
alleged sex pervert rapists
but he loves the game so much
that's what's really important
one in every how many
will be
please have a button in place
to immediately eject
seat or drop
into a trap hole
someone who happens to slip by the fucking hiring process
on
instantaneously
on frame one
so then
yeah there are tons of employees
and like I believe
I was hearing that over on
the various
hmm
so I typed this gentleman's name
into Google
and hilariously enough I got a Kotaku article
from 2020
from 2010
the lady at Lizcon asked
hey why does every female
piece of armor in the game for wow
have to step out of the Victoria's secret
catalog at which point
Jay Allen Brack the CEO
and Alex
Afrasiabi
continued to defensively joke about her question
instead of giving a sincere answer
even after the lady walked away from the mic
the devs of the panel continued to joke
about her question what catalog
would you like us to pull from
okay
these people are obvious
that's just the
piece we saw
at a public convention
10 years ago
inside the office
this shit is so
clear
I don't
know if this aspect was true
there was
some reference to like the
naked employee photos that were being passed
around as being
shared
post-mortem
and I don't
I didn't see that in the original complaint
I don't know how verifiable
that is
but
dear fucking god
now what a great
well
we'll see how this goes
best of luck to blizzard in their lawsuit
I'm sure it'll go great
best of luck to the people who work at blizzard
who are currently trying to figure out
what the fuck is gonna happen here
I mean I'm obviously
being sarcastic
each at blizzard
was the best of luck to people in their
new job searches
of which I'm certain there will be many
so what was the real wow killer
all along
like not to get too businessy
or video gamey but like the
like wow
has had the worst month
it has ever had
in its life cycle
because it went from
groundswell to its competitor
from a natural point of view
to
like people going
I cannot ethically play this game
like I can very much imagine
like hardcore wow found
fans looking at their game with like
disgust like it is object
like it can be very
easily said that it's tainted
well I mean at bare minimum
this is one of those
things where the game logo
will pop up from now in the future
and like everyone in the room
will have
you know
still the funniest podcast question we ever got
email
ever the 3b's Bioware, Bethesda
and blizzard
that was 2013 and it was hilarious then
I mean the
not that every fucking small studio
is angelic
and perfect or whatever
but no look at lab zero
but at all right
but the odds of the
giant one
having
ridiculous skeleton dungeons
are extraordinarily
high
it seems to grow linearly
there's a chance
your small studio
might have a problem
it is guaranteed your large studio
has a problem
how did they deal with it
any studio over a certain size
you're going to find something
Capcom recently got caught plagiarizing
a ton of shit
right
Sega
is partially or completely
owned and run by
a literal Japanese crime syndicate
pick one
EA's just evil
like I'm sure we'll get
shit like this out of EA in a
short amount of time
yeah although it does get brought into another category
when you're talking about sex criminals
like on the
on the move
Amazon
which is our technical partner company
is trying to turn their
workers into slaves
shit
oh and
warcraft 3 reforged has been put on hold
oh you mean
after they fired the team
or something
the whole team is gone that's what happened
okay
well
there's
there's some other things that happened this week
oh yeah
oh well thank goodness we can get away
from that dire news
with all the misogyny
and crimes and we can go to
a nice place like Singapore where everything
is good and nice
well
well yep you there
trying
no trying
no
I'm gonna drop the
the baton
the baton is on the floor so
this week
Ubisoft was in the news
due to their deal
with the Singaporean government
because
what's the name of the game it's their ship game
uh fucking
god damn it
Nazi of thieves
um
I want to
skull and bones
skull and bones has been in
development for eight years
has had
no progress
at all made on it
it has been rebooted
multiple times a year
the entire time
they have spent
120 million dollars on it
and there's literally no game
there's nothing
but
because they took a tax credit
from the Singaporean government
and made a studio there
they have to finish it
they have to
and
bonus
despite most of the staff
being Singaporean natives
if you're not French
you don't get to be promoted
so what they do
is they send their French employees
from the main studios to run the studio
for a year or two
somewhere nice and exotic
before getting sent back home
and promoted
the Singaporean employees
have joked that there is a French
ceiling
at the studio
okay
okay
it's literally
a neocolonialist
game dev studio
yeah
so let's just
let's cap this off the way I feel like a
I capped off the
the last time talking about this type of shit
but
the end of that same podcast
discussion I was describing
of the old
the old QA days and
Willie will figure it out was
about how unions
can be a pretty good thing
hey
you know all those problems you have
with unions they're real
I don't care
they're not as bad
as the problems you have
right now
there's a lot of
shit that needs ironing out
but
this though
is currently like
this is some wild shit
I've been in a corrupt union
I would take my corrupt union
over dealing with the boss
with nothing
any day of the week
it's the easiest decision in the world
yeah
um
it's
if these stories
don't
like these types of things
if they don't provide
the fucking push
you know
yeah a thousand employees
write a letter saying their company is full of
shit how about you guys write a letter
saying you're unionizing and you won't take
this crap or you'll all strike
and how about that
and you definitely know that
like the
the corporate response to that
is always like
there's no cost that is
uh
there's no cost too high
to stop that from happening
you know
you do absolutely everything and you can
and you
shut it down open up business
I have a bloody in mind who got fired
from his movie job for trying to start
a union sure
he was trying to start a union
over at the fucking
uh cineplex
downtown the big theater dead center
you know on St. Catherine
and
his girlfriend
sorry his axe
ratted him out to the boss
and a couple weeks before everything was ready
to go he got fired
yeah
of course
of course
you know and and and just like when you're
dealing with when this type of shit happens
laterally between two people that are like
uh in the company at the relatively
the same position
you know
and then a shuffling occurs
like that is a
a shit decision from someone who has the power
that is effectively not
dealing with the situation properly and that
happens
you can see a bunch of times
but most of these stories end up being
one person way higher up and multiple
victims involved and like
this is where I imagine a union
can really really help
I hey this bitch gotta go
or strike hey this gotta happen
or strike strikes rule
I don't I don't know um
you know like and that the
the yeah the discussion
with James is one that was kind of like hey like
I don't know like what
the moves would be but there are
places that have set up
like the
the initial steps to push for
a game industry unionizing
like um movement
you know there are discussions there are places there are
people trying to put those those those bricks into
place and essentially
it feels as if like if there's ever enough
people uh pushing for it
that like an existing framework
can be filled in and then
launched
but uh that's the
that's the that's the takeaway I guess
on these types of stories
let me say one thing if you're worried about a union
and this is the most important thing you'll ever
have to hear
Mr. Everard
is helping me
find my
he is
he is
what else do you need to know
I need to know about my right to work
don't show me a picture though
might hear some stories
and I regret talking to him do you
yeah
on stream
it's awful
little disco tangent there don't worry
about it too if you're confused
well and I mean
there's there's there's
like there's what you described
and then there's the
actual literal like
horror story
um version of what you're describing
which is in my opinion at the very
least a police union
which is the
extreme opposite end of the
of the
spectrum where it's
the same problem where
with
those kinds of unions the
accountability is being
deflected right like yeah
it's the same problem place
unions are a different beast different
breed different massive fucking crazy thing
it's great it's insane the more you find out about
it you know but
um
but yeah in terms of how
do you stop
the fucking
uh
how do you stop the Vatican moving the
priests around like that's what this
that's kind of what this is
you know it's um
you strike on God
that works
I'm pretty sure actually in
particularly really the actual solution
was a huge lawsuit
that's how you stopped it
well you know
big lawsuit
Sodom and Gomorrah were really
just worker strikes
that lasted
you think about it a while
yeah those cities were
fed up with the rules
and they decided to
go on strike
and
and
what are you gonna do when you're on strike you're gonna party
you're gonna booze up
and do a whole lot of
but fucking
and um
that's what striking is all about striking is all about
it and you know putting
it in the ass of the company
well
seems like
God wasn't too happy with that so he shut down
the Walmart
you know
anyway
well there's some other shit that
Singapore's story is wild
that's why I can't believe
how not just it that you missed it
because the activation lizard thing
is just so much more intense
but yeah no that one's fucked up
it just annihilated the
the docket
there
I was gonna
oh man
hey I'm gonna need to take another break
I'm gonna piss myself I'm very sorry today
alright
okay so
seeing as it is a shit week
on the
on the podcast this week
that's correct it's shit week yes we
uh let's let's keep on
seeing where the slide takes us
you might be looking at all the shit news
and thinking well
that's horrible
you know I should
I'll cheer myself up by
by
playing a good old
game of
the new world
from Amazon
the new world MMO
oh yeah I saw people
some people are streaming that
I requested a code for myself
yeah
looking forward to it give it a shot
now I'm done with FF14 until
and Walker so maybe we'll just
mess around with that
but you haven't booted it up yet have you
no I didn't get the key yet I might not
but I was looking forward to checking it out
that's cool that's cool
that's an Amazon games production
might be their first good one maybe
let's find out what
happens when you boot it up
what happens
uh apparently
uh it bricks your
$1500 and video GPU
the new world MMO
cool
is apparently
responsible for killing
a number of RTX
3090s
and
multiple players
are
basically reporting that yeah
their
the game is destroying
the closed beta specifically
is destroying their cards
um
there's an issue that results
in 100% GPU usage
after
booting the game
um
the developer recommended
overriding the driver settings
by turning the max frame
rate to off
um
however
I think the point at which
your
video card gets fried is one
where you're not playing with
settings anymore
so
the
specifically
this is a
double issue
this is all I believe this is
impacting EVGA
cards explicitly
uh as for some reason
something about their architecture is the only one
um
affected by this
and it was caused by
uh the menus
in new world
have no internal frame limit
on them
so they would just run up
thousands and thousands of frames
a second
uh and
your GPU at like peak
or past peak power draw
at all times
and kill it
there are some timings coming out
telling people that
you know you can hopefully
prevent this
you can prevent this by capping
your FPS
beforehand
and locking it at 60
however
the fact that
software
can kill your hardware
is exactly why
compliance exists
you kind of get to circumvent
that because
there's no
standardization
there's light steam standardization
so EVGA
made a card that can kill itself
if it runs at weird frame rates for too long
and
amazon made a car
a game that can run weird frame rates
at insane numbers
for weird periods of time
both of these
are not the end of the world
until you combine the two issues
and then you end up with a dead card
which EVGA to its credit
is sending out replacement cards
that's the update on the story is they have
they've basically updated
to say that yes they will be
sending out replacements
to those who've had
bricked 3090s
so that's nice
because what the fuck
also
results probably in
um
it probably
results in like some
development hurdles for a lot of
companies and a lot of people
but I think having
some more aggressive
compliance standards for
um
PC platforms would in the end
protect the consumer
like yeah you would think
there's benefits to the
wild wild west of the PC world
but these are the downsides
and um
I'm someone who would be in favor of
like making sure it doesn't kill
your hardware for example as
a major requirement you know
um yeah maybe maybe
well anyway uh we
have that
and
the real bummer
this week though
is
that after just one year of operation
tom clancy's elite
squad will be shutting down
I guess umbra one in the
and bra one in the
end I was hoping you'd remember which one
that was I did remember
fists in the air
say it loud say it
proud umbra
one let's go dead
sec
that's wild
dude live service
game shutting down in under a year even
uh even fucking
anthem ran for longer than that
did you spend your money you see
fuck you they were like showing off
like tom clancy's xd
squad a bit of a fuck it's called
did like right after
they announced they were shutting this thing down
like how fucking stupid do you have to be
holy Christ and I also saw that
and I saw like just
people going like what does tom clancy
mean anymore
it means that he's
dead and they bought the license to his name
what is it like the xd squad
they just like what is it
what does it mean who knows
who knows
um yeah
well
guns I guess right yeah
if it has guns
it means it means modern
military fetishism
if it has shootbangs
it counts
um
anyway there is a
couple of announcements
for things moving
moving along
they announced
the
pubg animated show
from adi shankar
aka castlevania
showrunner
what
player unknowns battlegrounds
will be getting
an animated show
is this the prequel to the callista protocol
I don't know
according to
their press release
this animated project
is
coming
to netflix
it seems
and
a lot of people thought the next thing he'd be working on
was the devil may cry thing
but
seems like it's not
and quite frankly I don't think
we need to be in a rush
I think we can
let that take its time
a lot of people are like no but when's dmc though
and I'm like never please
never is good
I don't know castlevania is pretty good man
yeah I guess
I guess I just
but there's nothing wrong with never
you know what
I mean that's true
except it doesn't make anyone any money
never is fine
never has been fine
up until now
um anyway
yeah I don't know pubg show
is a thing
I guess it's gonna have the guy with the tie
and the helmet on it
you know it's
you're making an animated show
out of a property
so bereft of
original ideas
that it tried to sue people for including
fucking frying pans in their game
so
I have to wonder
I guess
Mr. Shankar
must have some ideas
must
because why would you agree
if you didn't have
some ideas
it I would I would flip my
shit if they actually had a tie into
Callista protocol which is the weirdest
cross-contamination of any IP
ever ever
do you even know what I'm talking about
no
Callista protocol
is that game being made
by the former devs of the dead space
franchise
the future space thing with the zombie
monsters that look like necromorphs
that is in the pubg
universe oh yes I remember that now
I remember this yes
the horror thing in the pubg universe that got announced
correct take a second
right
pubg is trying to create a universe and I guess
step one is
that and then step two is this
yeah I don't get it
step one
probably should have been like the game itself
you know
step one should have been making unique assets
from the game itself
but anyway
that's announced
the minecraft movie
is coming March 4th
2022
will follow a teenage girl in her unlikely group of
adventures and the malevolent ender dragon
sets out on a path of destruction
that's nice
what
that's nice
um
the witcher nightmare of the wolf the animated series
spin-off uh also
trailer dropped for that
and I as someone who has not
experienced any witcher have questions
yeah
this doesn't appear to contain
a garalt in it
that's fine there's lots of characters
so is this the kind of thing that's got
vesemir in it so that's my thing is like
do the other things
does the rest of the world set up in a really
strong way to like move the camera
to other places
oh yeah this should have it all the time
cool there are other witchers
okay
dude I think
yeah it's vesemir this time yeah okay
just tag along with vesemir
dude with a short hair and a goatee
and a beard and a thing
yeah okay
vesemir fucking kicks ass dude
he's like your dad
well
um
that and if anything
the castlevania energy
is very similar
on this trailer
I guess that's just going to be
the comparison point for all these
Netflix animated projects from now on huh
just going to be like okay well how much
how much like Castlevania is it going to be like
and we'll just
we'll start there and then figure it out
it was good
yeah it was good
I like Malcolm McDowell's character a lot
okay well
how much like Castlevania
will the live action
Pokemon TV show be like
hopefully a lot
because that's rumored
to apparently be in the works
um
I
really thought
yeah we're on a roll today
we're on a roll today
I really thought that
they were going to do a bunch of live action
movies actually
I thought that like they did the
the one and then they did the remake of the
movie 2000
and I expected they would have been like
oh let's just make a big
like cinematic universe out of live action
Pokemon
but it seems like
they are
currently rumored to be
with Netflix for a show in development
live action so
that's what
cool
I want to see Pikachu
kill that fucking
onyx
kill it
in 3D
yeah
you
you're a fan
of um
turn in butter on a stick aren't you
you like spinning your
stick around
on occasion how much do you like
spinning your stick
I like it okay why
you like 360s
you like 720s
you feel okay about I do
I
can do a 1080 I can think of one character
ever that I had to do a 1080 for
and it was
iron taeger for his instant kill
so I want to so I think you also
have to do a 1080 for
yada garasu and
and the dawn valve in
battle fantasia
I'll believe that
but now
you will also have to
do it
in this
with behemoth typhoon
in this behemoth typhoon
in which behemoth typhoon
this one
which one is that
don't worry about it though
I gotta hand it to archsys
somebody told them archsys
your characters have too many moves
and they went okay
here's a character with two
moves
except one move is 10 moves
actually it's
28 moves
and it's actually 28 it's 28
moves but it's 5 moves
and they each have different states
gold
dick louinson
or gold dick louis gold
gold louis dickinson
bruce dickinson
is announced you know fuck that
I have to say I want to fucking
clap
for archsys for coming up
with probably my favorite
nickname for a character in years
the secretary of
absolute defense
is a plus
plus add one word
and make the job title
like the fucking sickest it's ever been
oh it's so good
so the big man from the guilty gear strive
story is showing up as
the first DLC character
and um
he's playing around a coffin
ala beyond the grave
ala jango
but
he is holding area 51
area 51 is in his possession
it is a coffin
with a cryptid inside
it's not an alien
yes it's not an alien it's a cryptid
that's crazy why would it be an alien
that's ridiculous
what's an alien I don't even know
he's got the
yeah so he's got the five moves
and they have the different states
shoutouts to
so obviously there's behemoth typhoon
but super one
is
burn it down
which is a pretty fucking good name for a super
where he just calls in the hammer of dawn
and super two
is down with the system
which is
my candidate for sickest
super name of all time
it's really good
it is one of the best I've ever
read like it's
super sick
which requires you to do
up to a 1080 to get extra hits
so that's nice
but I'm always a fan of
when a character's inputs
are reflective of what you see them doing
so
guile does a flash kick
because he crouches down
and then he jumps and does a kick
makes sense
a hadoken less sense
because you don't really have to crouch
down to really go then
shoot the fireball out
but whatever charge characters
tend to have an easier time of this constant
it makes more sense yes
in this case
swinging the coffin around
requires you to
basically spin the stick
from any
direction
180 degrees into any other direction
and then press
a conceivable variation
has
and whichever way you go
as long as you start
an end on north south east or west
you will get a swing of the coffin
in that direction
that has a particular purpose
it's awesome
did it go high, did it go low, did it go back
words
so
the discussion over how to notate this
has been great
I know like for me
my brain just went immediately to the clocks
because before I knew
it has to go to the numbers
it has to do the numpad
because before I knew
when I was first learning about like excellence
I was trying to identify
the way he does his chain
his sickle moves
and I was going yeah
like 3 o'clock
and then 12 o'clock
that one
but now
it's like
let's take it from
if you want to say
12 to 6 that doesn't work
because you can go
12 o'clock, 3 o'clock, 6 o'clock
or you can go 12 o'clock, 9 o'clock, 6 o'clock
and those are different moves
those are different moves
yeah
but it's such a visual
thing that makes a lot of sense
unless you play hitbox in which case
go fuck yourself
each shit hitbox users get on blast
too bad
yeah
because if you're playing on a hitbox
it sucks for anyone that does
because you're like your jump button
is where your thumb is
and then you have
left, down, right
and
you don't fucking do
the right combination of 3
by pianoing the 3
but you have to know which through the piano
and it's just
suffering
so I feel like anybody who plays hitbox
is just going to have to throw it out for this character
it needs to be
or not play the character
but yeah
and it's exactly what you think it is
in the sense that it's like
if you swing your stick from
going forward
then it's almost like a golf swing
and if it hits you, it knocks you up in the air
but if you swing it
from
up to down
then it's an overhead
that swings and hits you low because
that's the direction the coffin is swinging in
you know
and like where you start and where you end
just like
visually represent
where the coffin is swinging
that way and the move properties change
accordingly it's a very
like
logical way of designing things and I love that
I fucking love
the designs of the character
balls out it's great
there are
28 different versions
no no no so
there are 8 different behemoth typhoons
right
those are the coffin swinging moves
and then he has
the other moves which are his
the drone attack
which can
it can be short, mid or long range
or he has the gatling gun
which can be short, mid or heavy
fire
and
those are affected by the security level
which is another meter
that he has at the bottom
this is the most arc system works character
he's playing his own game
he has to be playing his own game
so what you're doing is you're doing
the different like low, mid and high
security level versions of those moves
and then you're doing all the behemoth typhoons
in the air
and then you're doing
his two supers
but the
giant punch super
down with the system
can be
amplified
to 1, 2, 3
extra hits
with the drones
by doing extra stick rotations
after inputting the initial input
the initial one
so
he's just a big fucking boy
and I love it
he looks so fucking cool
I'm glad to have another heavy on the cast
I haven't been playing as much guilty gear
as I want
but every time I go in a guilty gear I go to
Potemkin I can't help it because I want to play somebody heavy
but now there's a new heavy
but it looks complicated
oh my god
and he does a
donkey kick
he has one of those arms to the ground
feet up in the air
business boot hitbox
so
that looks cool
he looks like the drones that he can set up
or rather that the alien can set up
are going to be
encrypted
they're going to be a nuisance
that's cool
and
I don't know if in the lore section
if anyone's read the breakdown of his deal
but
he's the secretary of defense
he personally is responsible
for protecting Area 51
he is on his own
the equivalent of in strength
of the entire
White House special security
and
he doesn't believe in aliens
but the cryptid that's kept inside
the coffin
he's figured out
something about it
that's a weakness that forces it to do what he says
so
so that's how he's controlling it
but
but he doesn't believe in it being
an extraterrestrial at all
so it's a slave
alien in a coffin that has to do what he says
no it's a cryptid
it's a fucking cryptid stop saying it's an alien
and you know aliens don't exist
and it's not
just like attacking
it's also things like pulling out a mirror
so that he can fix his hair
super
great
also someone caught a little stylish
design choice when you do
down with the system level 4
his
glasses break
as he's like charging up and you see the veins
bulging in his head when it does a close up on him
and the shattered glass frames
shoot
outside of the
letter boxing
borders that appear
when you do a super
oh nice
super cool
so yeah
gold dick
come in this way
and I think Obama
tweeted out the
like a thing of like
this is where the move inspiration comes from
and it's just like
Tom Arnold in
Big Lebowski
this is what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass
scene
where he's just taking it to the car
this dude's great
John Goodman
not Tom Arnold
I think they're starting too strong
with the character
they're starting with their balls out
and I respect it
no cowardice
you gotta come in with the
like anyone that like
you wanna come in with a heavy
in or out style character
cowards
and enthusiasts
will part like the fucking
rivers
before Moses
um
yeah gold
is gonna drop
I think in two days
soon yeah
and then the last thing
is
it seems to be out of nowhere
no rumors of this in the
time leading up to it but
dead space remake
wow
just like that
wow just like that
you were talking about how
dead space holds up
yeah that's why I talked about it
so I don't know if anyone's
played dead space one or two
recently
those games still look immaculate
they aged some of the best
of anything from that generation
and
let me break you down
what happened with dead space
John Riccatello
back in 2006 or 7
wanted EA to make good games
so he commissioned
Visceral to make dead space
which was a new studio and he let some of the people
on the battlefield team work on a pet project
called Mirror's Edge
and they both
uh they both reviewed
extremely well
it's a little bit better and dead space sold considerably better
I think it sold like a million or a million and a half copies
then Dead Space 2
uh they said
well it's gotta sell way more copies
it's gotta sell 5 million now
and it's gonna have multiplayer
it's gotta have versus multiplayer
so we can put the online pass in it
of course
um and so they put the shitty
multiplayer in and it sucked
uh but the game was excellent
Dead Space 2 was absolutely fantastic
and then
Dead Space 3 starts up
and they go it's gotta sell 11 million copies
and uh
put the fucking co-op in it
and make it make more shooting
and then went oh okay
and Dead Space 3 is kinda bad
and it didn't sell
that good it sell like a couple million copies still
and then uh
they uh
canceled plans for future Dead Spaces
and then they uh
closed down Visceral
and then Glenn Shofield the creative
guy behind the main thing
he decided to leave
and took some people with him and they went and worked on Call of Duty for a little bit
I had friends at Visceral
they're our own thing and then they uh
now they're gonna make Calista protocol
which is not Dead Space
and then EA
saw people
getting excited for
Calista protocol but they don't
have anybody that can make a new Dead Space game
cause they fired all of them
so they went
ahhhhhh
uhhhh
remake Dead Space 1
my friends are dead
you had this ball
you took you gave this
ball away
you took your ball and threw it from
your yard as hard as you could
and then you saw
another kid playing
with your ball
that you had thrown away
and you went that's bullshit that's my
ball
and you got your friend Jimmy to
paint a different ball to look
like your original ball
Pat I have a question
ask me your question
let's say hypothetically
I was interested
at some point in the near future
in playing Dead Space 1
what should I do
honestly
you should break out your 360
the Dead Space 1 port's
controller support is weird
Dead Space 2?
no problem on PC
but the Dead Space 1 port
on PC has bizarre
controller issues
ok
that's a lot of trouble
it kinda is
Dead Space 2 is also really good
is there any chance
that the textures or lighting will get
fucked up in this new thing
well this is a remake
so
I'm expecting
much more than that to be fucked up
hmm
this
really doesn't need a remake
it just needs a
re-release with slightly
updated controller support
it can be more serious
like I
the feeling I get
when that
exact era
of
trying to revisit it
but the newest incarnations
are terrible or have problems
and
there's no clear like anything older
than that has been ported somewhere
that's fine at some point
but that exact
problem of
the only thing to do is plug in the ps3
the only thing to do is plug in the 360
and go get that
fucking version of it going and it's just like
oh my god
what a fucking pain in the ass
it's a massive pain
ok well
thanks for the tip
it's a good game
I heard it's a good game
I heard it's a good game
why did you play it back when it first came out
I still might not
I still might never I don't know
who cares whatever
either way we'll see
or we won't
I just didn't
life goes on
people are pointing out
you can play it on the X-Sex
for the old disc
it's backwards compatible
oh
I have one of those
and it has a disc slot on it
ok
you can probably grab the digital version too
well then
there we go good to know
yay
let's take some letters
if you want to send in a letter
about how your boss at
your company is a fucking asshole
send that to
whatever governmental agency
in your state would help you out with that
but you can also pitch to us
at castlesuperbeast
at gmail.com
no that's not the email address at all
that's the wrong one erase what he just said
from your minds
wait what it's not
what is it
it's castlesuperbeastmail.com
oh you're right it's castlesuperbeastmail.com
that's what I said
you can send me everyone
anyways you can send us a letter
you know why
cause your voice matters
every voice matters
except for everyone who has shitty letters
yeah those voices
those voices don't matter at all
but hey the placard right here
says every voice matters
so what are you gonna argue with it
yeah
okay
uh
we got one over here
uh
D'Jazzo
says hey willy and pat would like to share a story
of my sister who is a Griffith
apologist was arguing with her
about the moment Griffith
sacrificed everybody
and
told her how fucked up it was
she told me he wasn't wrong at all
and he was doing it for his dreams
I said would you sacrifice me
and your family for your dreams
and she looked at me and just smiled
and I still think about that this day
and it scares me
sounds like you need a new sister
ask your parents for a new one
I don't know how the return policy works on that
but um
yeah there's
there's
everyone's got that friend who took the wrong thing
the wrong who got the wrong takeaway
from the wrong from the scene
or the wrong story
usually
I think the X was right
um
movement
X did nothing wrong
it might be the worst movement ever
X did nothing wrong is worse than X was right
yes because sometimes
usually if they're well written you're right
if they're well written
X was right but they were just
crazy about how they were going about
solving the problem or they were right
but they did wrong thing yes
but X did
nothing wrong
is so much more inflammatory
because everything every
horrible atrocity committed was like no
it was justified I don't care
that was all good
who died what your favorite character
is too bad it was worth it
it was the morally
correct thing to do
oh yeah that's so that's way
more inflammatory yeah that's an important
distinction the geth
did nothing wrong is a
real statement I have actually said
out loud in my mass effect
play through and I completely believe it
uh
we got one
coming in
from
a frustrated
VF fan says
dare willing pat oh man
long-ranked quick question has there ever been
a product launch more misguided
than Virtua Fighter Ultimate showdown
not just in gaming oh yeah tons
but any kind of release
to any market I've been a Virtua Fighter
fan since final showdown been playing
for nearly a decade
own a copy of yak as a sixth judgment
and like a dragon in order to have
a VF on modern hardware
I will thought I'd be overjoyed by the
re-release of the only
fighting game design that I really really like
after being completely confused
this year by the tweets about Virtua Fighter
eSports I was a bit excited
for some news coming in regards to a new VF
definitely didn't expect to use
the yak as a team who never made
an online game that I know of
to be asked to remake
the PlayStation 3 VF with fewer cosmetic
options and no significant advancements
easy to say that the netcode
isn't up to standard it plays exactly as
badly as the PS3 version did
inputs are eaten
your input delay can be 10 frames
or worse on really bad connections
it's also easy to say
they put an extra effort into absorption
netcode just so that it ended up
ineffective but more expensive
it's easy to be confused
why a legacy
niche franchise thought it would
be a good idea to release it within a week
of launch of the most hyped fighting game of 2021
one which
had already impressed people with a beta
performance and netcode
implementation skill to your strive
I am confused
as to why they released it as a PS Plus title
free for a month which makes the game
disposable in many people's eyes perhaps
even worthless after they play a game or two
they don't find it if they don't find it that fun
the streams lack are
lucky to get triple digits
currently
as I type the twitch has 4 channels
176 viewers across total
one high profile tech ins streamer
put YouTube videos up
openly mocking Virtua Fighter
for being ridiculously at a date
and
when this game was forgotten about
it wasn't a huge laughing stock
but now thanks to Ultimate Showdown it is
so again has there ever been a launch
that has done more to punch itself in the face
than this
so before we continue
yes there have been
tons there's so many I actually can't think of one off the top
but stadia fucking stadia
but
I can tell you with absolute
certainty from
personal experience
that Sega of Japan's
marketing
and planning divisions
have no
idea what they are
doing
they are
astonishingly
incompetent
at every level
yeah
I wonder
when
you see these games over the last couple of
Yakuza arcade machine inclusions
you see them as like
a really cool fun bonus game
that was you know like
exposed to people that never saw our
Touch Virtua Fighter before that
and it came across as like a curious
novelty series that was like
oh this is a cool little old thing
it would be nice if something happened
with this at some point and there must
have been someone internally that was
you know very spirited
and passionate about making a proper
release for this project in some way shape
or form
and I didn't realize
that it was
an RGG team I guess that was responsible
for like how this shaped up
until
this person I guess mentioned it here but
um
the
zero dollars that this thing had
to handle
this entire port
aside
he is super right
in that this has gone from a curiosity
that people kind of enjoyed
as a novelty arcade machine
to something that people are now
negative in opinion about
where there was no negative opinion
before because of how botched of a release
this was
so one of the things he points out
that most people probably don't even
remember is that he describes
that as a PlayStation Plus game it
gives the indication that
the game is valueless
especially when you play it and you have a terrible
netcode experience
the thing that most people don't remember
is that the initial release
of Final Showdown
was as the first
PlayStation Plus free title
so
every aside from
the two thousand
five and
six
releases of VF5
version B
it was a free
game
for like 12
13 years
and it's a
free series
that you go to play online
and plays like shit
wow
I did not know that
what fucking chance does it have
like really
it reads as free to play trash
like
all of that
the fact that it's free
which you know again would
allow lots of people that never touched it
to touch it
the fact that
if it's good
that kind of free thing works on word of mouth
but if they get online and they play it
and it sucks
they're not going to tell their friends to get it
and buy it after the period has ended
exactly
I'm sure lots of people have gotten into it
from enjoying it inside of Yakuza
I'm sure there's a huge number of those people
yeah sure
as a novelty
as a free novelty inside their real game
exactly
and you know the fact that it's like
the release window like one week or right
right before strive or so
like
no like the announcement itself
just being a
what is this product I don't know
X Esports
it's a remake how do we know
because someone saw the rating board
a leak
and then
from the rating board leak to it's here
and then one
interview about how they just like yeah
we heard about the netcode
but we didn't want to do something
it just the fact
that it's gone from like positive
novelty goodwill into negative
it's a wild 180
that I
when I saw that Esports announcement
I couldn't have imagined that this is what was going to happen
you know
every single
every single moment of
talking about Virtua Fighter
since the trailer of Virtua Fighter
Esports
has had me being upset
like I saw the Virtua Fighter
Esports trailer
which was nothing it was a cure
doing a couple poses
and the words Virtua Fighter Esports
and do you remember me going on twitter and being like
irrationally furious at it
and being like they're gonna fuck it up
I'm watching them fuck it up right now
based off of nothing
other than the fact that I
am used to playing Virtua Fighter
and them fucking it up
they fucked it up
the rollback
wars
are supposed to kill the new games
and save the old ones
it's not supposed to be like this
yeah
you're supposed to save
the old games
by putting it in
and the new ones come out
and fucking die because they're too ignorant
this is not what was meant to be man
it's upsetting the time one
anyway
um
yeah
lastly hate Virtua Fighter
I hate you you you should
you should
uh
Jared says and it hates me
Virtua Fighter doesn't hate you just say go
dare dred kong and baby bowser
the other day I was listening to
episode 36
been working my way through on the commutes
of the podcast was enjoying
uh well he's laughing at Justin Trudeau's
blackface photos that leaked
during the 2019 election
part of my commute was
still got elected! sure did
uh takes me to a park
near my house for reference
I'm a white guy in his early 20s
so imagine my horror when with my windows
down woolly yells I love
blackface and every
family children in tow
looks over at me and disgust
damn it woolly you got me good
well
Jared
your 36 episodes in
you knew what you signed up for
and if you're listening
in your car on your car speakers
out loud with the
fucking windows down
that is
on you on you
all your fault on you
that being said luckily you were in your
car thus enabling a
quick escape that being
said I still love blackface
he loves it he loves blackface
it shows you what's what
real quick
it's really fast
it's so obvious right away
you don't have to
you don't have to comb through
the words and the deeds
no need for nuance
no need for explanation
no double speak
no hidden fucking
intonations no coded language
it's so clear
instantaneous
understanding
it's the best
everybody knows
what's going on
there's no confusion
we love it it's great
there's the one
alternate to this
that is also funny
you're gonna play an arab character
but you still went with blackface
yes
correct
you want you're playing a lad
still went with hard
blackface
I think he browned
he got his knees
I think he browned around a little bit
he did his knees
that's how you know
he was dedicated
and again
and it just happened to be in an
election cycle where
the opponent was seek
and it was kind of
wild in its timing and nature
how many times
Mr. Prime Minister
would you say you've done
blackface
could you round it up to the nearest five
that wasn't the question that got me
the question that got me
that I couldn't believe
Mr. Prime Minister
how many of these photos are going to surface
I don't know
what
can you round it
to the nearest five
you know
how many halloween's
are there in a year
you love it you love to see it
you love to see it
castle super beast
supports blackface
I'm going to state
that I'm not on that
you are speaking
unilateral
for that
you love to see it
because it clears things up
it clears
things up you get to
understand immediately
and who doesn't like clarity
I like a world that's very clear
you know
I like when things
you might call them
are black and white
we'll see you next week