Castle Super Beast - CSB 158: The Nutting Company: A Vac-Bed of Flesh

Episode Date: March 15, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 MUSIC MUSIC Hey, hey. Good afternoon, Willie. How are you today? Welcome to the fucking Daylight Savings Nightmare that is an hour of our lives stolen. Stolen. And then you get it back after, so. I don't even care.
Starting point is 00:01:00 I know. I was talking about it this week, and I think that we're going to hit a weird point in the near future. Because the, what I remember growing up is whenever Daylight Savings would come around and when it would go, everyone had to remember, oh shit, go set the clocks back. Oh shit, go set the clocks forward. Don't forget, tomorrow, that's the day. And then you'd feel it and wake up early for work
Starting point is 00:01:26 or wake up early for school and or late. And then you'd be like, yay, we got an extra hour or boo, we lose an hour. Now it happens with all your devices automatically and you don't have to manually set it anymore. You might have to on some things, but for the most part, all of your shit is connected to the internet and syncing itself, which means a lot of kids don't have to do that ritual,
Starting point is 00:01:47 which means it's going to just kind of come and go automatically and you're going to just feel more tired and not really know why. Yeah, for me, the big thing was that I woke up late as shit and I'm like, what the fuck is this bullshit? It's not fucking this late. The dog didn't even wake me up. And then I'm like, oh no, it's fucking Daylight Savings. That's that bullshit time that people say is for farmers,
Starting point is 00:02:11 but it's not really because farmers don't give a fucking shit what actual time it is. They just wake up with the sun. Yeah, I think for whatever reason, I'm sure it applies for some stupid tradition that was too hard to get rid of at some point, but I feel as if fast forward a couple of decades and literally kids are just not even going to know that it exists.
Starting point is 00:02:41 It'll just be an automatic thing that happens while you're sleeping and you'll just wake up the next day feeling a bit different and you'll be like, oh, I guess I don't know what's gonna happen. No, I disagree that. I disagree strongly with that. Yeah. Because the kids are up late enough to see the clocks roll over from 12.59 to 3.00 a.m.
Starting point is 00:03:03 I know I always usually am, but the fact that in my lifetime, I've gone from knowing in advance when to do it because we had to change things to now forgetting that it happened until it already went by me and going, why do I feel tired? Oh, shit, it's because it happened. Oh, my mom reminds me over the phone literally every year.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Okay. Well, over here, it's completely forgotten until I'm in it way past it. And it's like, oh, shit, all my devices already did the thing and that's why I feel this way. So I don't know. I don't know. Because if it's at the very least,
Starting point is 00:03:43 it'll become less of a thing in anticipation and it'll become just like, oh, shit, did that already happen? Whoa. Yeah. I hate it. I hate it because it always screws up everybody who doesn't live in our stupid daylight savings world that watches our content because our hours change for no stupid reason.
Starting point is 00:04:01 So who does that apply to? Europeans. Okay. So who cares? Am I right? Yeah. Do the Americas as a whole? Yeah, they pretty much all do it.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Yeah. Okay. I feel like it's a bunch of stupid shit that the Americans roped us into. That's a gut feeling. I'm now going to look it up. Whose fault is daylight savings? Who's to blame?
Starting point is 00:04:34 Wow, the article is actually who's to blame for daylight savings. I mean, it's the dates. This is going to come off kind of crazy, but it's not that big of a deal. It's the biggest deal on the world. Which is, I know the antithesis of this entire podcast to just. Oh, no. To smother the bit immediately, but it's really.
Starting point is 00:04:56 It's Germany's fault. Well, that's not that. You just said that those Europeans don't have it. If all it dates back to 1918 as an energy saving measure. Because of the war. Well, anyway, I'm. That's not the, the, the only thing that has me feeling a little more tired than usual. I had the fun of discovering this week that.
Starting point is 00:05:27 What are the copper tubes? The fridge has a hookup that lets you get water from it. Right. Has a little button. You press it and the water comes out. I'd like some cold water, please. Yeah. And the copper tube inside the fridge at some point apparently cracked.
Starting point is 00:05:44 And. Okay. We didn't know this because no water was leaking out in a way that we could see. That came from under the fridge. Inside of the fridge. And not on the inside of the fridge, but to the back corner of like the kitchen and then through the floor and then into the under the wood. And so there has been a pooled fucking low, low, maybe ankle level amount of water just
Starting point is 00:06:17 underneath me and it's fucking hell because now obviously you got to come in, pull the baseboards off, shove a bunch of fans in there, get a dehumidifier and all these, all these, all the construction mafia has now moved inside the house. The construction is coming from inside the house. I still remember going over to your place for months and being like, wow, the bathroom still fucked up, huh? So, and that was a completely separate thing, but it was a similar situation because pipes under the ground leak, like old pipe leak, water drop.
Starting point is 00:06:57 And in this case, that was all fixed. That was all taken care of. And it just, it's like, now it's the fridges fault. It's the fridges turn. So. Yeah. Dude, I'm sorry. It's the sound we have to basically have fans on to the point where you can't hear yourself
Starting point is 00:07:16 whisper and going all day for this entire week, more or less. That's so, that's so good to do. I kicked them off on for the, for the streams, but it was just like, yeah, at the very minimum, like it's not that bad. And it doesn't, it recognizes faces. It's, it's at the very least, it's not so bad because the consistent noise makes it, I guess, a little easier for like, you know, tech to like filter it out. But boy, boy, that's not fun to deal with.
Starting point is 00:07:57 I'm sorry, dude. That sucks so bad. Not great. Not great. Anyway, at the very least, it's like, I don't know. It's just people come in, people come out. They have to measure up how much floor to pull up. And then I have to just feel, figure out how to live in a, you know, semi fucking like,
Starting point is 00:08:19 you know, spike trap floor situation. When you, when you get the, when you get the man to come in your house to do the man thing and fix your house, I've had that, you know, I've owned a house for a little while now. So every now and then you got to have a guy in come and fix something because I'm looking at it and like, I'm not my dad. I can't just grab a hammer and a plier and some bullshit and just fix it myself. I'm, I'm going to destroy my floor or a wall or whatever, right? And they come in and you're like, this, this is an older man who looks like he might be
Starting point is 00:08:58 a gambling addict and he looks exhausted. This is exactly who I want to fix my house. And when they take a look at it, I'm like, where do you think the problem is? And they look at you and they go, I don't know. I'll have to figure it out. And I'm, and you're like, I don't, I, that's not what I wanted you to say. I wanted you to say, oh yeah, I see this all the time. It's right here.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Just, you know, take the hand, bang, bang, boom, done. So I was getting people like that for some time, but like, I feel like I've now started to see a much younger generation of like those dudes coming through because the one who literally was here this morning, not up until maybe a half hour ago or so, maybe a little bit more. Basically, I woke up to like a dude coming through the house and he's like, I'm the inspector. I got to look at the floors and inspect how we're going to go through with pulling up
Starting point is 00:09:56 some of this to get at that water. And he was like, yeah, late twenties tops, probably. And as he was walking around and taking the inspection of which he had to, you know, do get to come check out every room, including where I was trying to get a nap. Right. But on his way out, he was just like, oh man, this is so cool. I remember the power glove when I was a kid and you just remember, you know, like, oh, that arcade and like, he was just, you know, just like, so it's just, it's just like a
Starting point is 00:10:28 young French guy that was just remarking on like all the, all the, the younger shit. And it's like, that is the exact opposite of the, the young too tired. I mean, the old tired vet, you know, I don't, I don't trust anyone under 40 to fix anything. I mean, when I got a new AC unit installed in my place at one point, like a heat pump and like one of the guys that walked in, he was like 22. And I'm like, who is this fucking idiot? And then like his, the guy that was with him came in and that dude was like an older guy. And I'm like, oh, thank God.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Yeah. And I have that, I have that sentiment and I do have a bit of that bias, but I have seen enough examples of like, oh yeah, that's my son. He's been watching me do this since he's been in diapers and he's got a, he's got a handle on it that's close to where I'm at. He just doesn't have the experience, you know, or like, or like, yeah, like the, the, the, the baby that's been looking under the hood as long, like alongside the, you know, the mechanic dad that's like, yeah, okay, you probably know what you're doing somewhere in,
Starting point is 00:11:37 in your, in your mid to late twenties at that point. I'm, I'm, I'm down to trust that. I've seen examples of it. Anyway. Yeah. But then I remember that my brother went and did contract work. In his early twenties. Are we really going to use that as the barometer?
Starting point is 00:11:54 I mean, yes, that fucking until the day he dies, that bundle of stories, you know, that fucking catamari of tales of woe. Yeah. No, I don't, you know, that doesn't, that's not everybody. Hey man, he's got to be good for something. That's, that's, that's not everybody, but they're, but they're out there. They're out there. Um, anyways, I feel, by the way, to the folks, to the folks who are watching this in the
Starting point is 00:12:30 video content, you may notice that there's a rapidly cycling series of video filters encompassing me. Yeah. We don't acknowledge it before we started. Well, he asked me what I was doing and I responded with, cause I felt like it. Lol. And that's all you're going to get. I'm putting two thumbs up right now.
Starting point is 00:12:50 I mean, it looks like horrible censored things are happening. Oh, it's, it's the built in discord garbage. It looks so bad. Yeah. Some of them have fucking discord logos on them. Ooh, I'm going to be a vaporwave discord man with the, my floating Steve was in the head right next to me. So we're not, we're just, this is an MP3.
Starting point is 00:13:10 We're not going to acknowledge visual bits. Okay. What if I, oh no, you're wearing glasses. We're not acknowledging visual bits. This is an MP3. You're wearing glasses now. What? What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:13:26 Is that a new thing? Is that sunglasses or like, what is it? I don't wear glasses. I'm, I'm, I'm looking at you wearing glasses or more. Well, I mean, if you want to be, if you want to be smarmy about it, I can see reflective items on your eyeball space. They're not sunglasses to the point where I can like read your monitor. Oh, well, like it's, it's hyper, hyper reflective.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Well, no, no, they're, they're, they're not sunglasses and they're not even real. They're literally just, they're not real. They're persona glasses. They came with a little ultimate, ultimax press package. Oh, nice. Lit. I'm like, okay. Our, where are we a pair?
Starting point is 00:14:14 You're wearing your persona glasses. I'm in an Elden Ring blank. You, there you go. You know what? I appreciate, you know what? Hey, can I just, can I just say to PR people out there, PR man who are going to send me a blanket and a cloak and like a figurine or whatever. You just take whatever that costs and just send me like a wad of cash.
Starting point is 00:14:40 I'll appreciate it more. I promise. I'll tell, I'll say your game real good. I will say when I, I, I whipped these out and punch bomb was all like, oh, what's going on? Oh my. Oh, she's just, I don't like white. What?
Starting point is 00:14:58 She's like, oh, I just, did you, do you have, did you get a prescription? What's going, what's happening? I'm like, what? Oh, that's good. Nothing. It's like, oh, well it looks very. Connection's definitely dead. It looks.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Can you, what? Connection. Uh-oh. Hold on a second folks. We might have some connection issues. Hmm. I still see Pat just fine and hear him. All right.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Podcast listeners. This is going to get very weird cause we're having some discord issues live as we talk. Oh yeah. This is good. I bet podcast is super dead right now. I don't know. Internet or something. All right.
Starting point is 00:15:47 And we're resinked. Are we resinked now? It sounds like we're resinked. This gorgeous came back. I just see Castle Super Beast is now offline. Stream is, is, is flitter fluttering. I can see the colors of Twitch blowing up. So something exploded.
Starting point is 00:16:08 It must have been the blur. I'm going to turn the blur off. Okay. I think, I think, you know, yep. Yep. The stream is going to eventually pop itself back up, but we're still synced up offline. Oh, we're still synced up. Oh, that's good.
Starting point is 00:16:29 There's some part of me talking to Paige and being like the stream is fucking broken there. So enjoy that shit everybody. Well, in any case, um, what was I even saying? Uh, yeah. No, just she was all like, ooh, why are you looking glasses? I'm like, okay. Well, don't get used to it and fuck off. Shut up.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Wow. You're, you're a real fucking romantic. Yeah. Dick head. Yeah. You know, your wife's like, wow, you look really good in that. And you're like, whatever. I'm not a nerd, bitch.
Starting point is 00:17:01 That's literally what I said. I literally said, you just want someone else to look like a, you just want another nerd around you fucking nerd. That is exactly verbatim what I said. Oh my God. So yeah. Fuck that. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:17:21 No. This is good. It's good. It's good. But it's fine. It's fine. It won't. It's the colors are going from green to red at some point.
Starting point is 00:17:33 It's going to mean something. Um, anyway, green to red. Yeah. You know, in the bottom of the OBS, you can see. Oh, the thing. Yeah. The color connection. And it's basically the connection to Twitch's servers and it's, it's flickering between
Starting point is 00:17:48 good and bad. Every time I happen, I got to reload and sometimes I got to switch it to like New York or some bullshit. Yeah. There's a node down in Albuquerque. That does happen. Albuquerque does drop nodes. Anyway, no, it happens.
Starting point is 00:18:09 I mean, it sounds like something, but it just, it's just a thing. It really does. It sounds. It does. I don't like it. Okay. Um, let's get, let's get back to the nonsense that is our day to day and the back to serious business.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Let's get started here. Let's got to get started. Okay. Serious brass tacks. Serious. All right. Okay. What's up with you, man?
Starting point is 00:18:33 Uh, well, let's get serious. So what's up? Mad serious. Uh, I played. Okay. Good. I played Kirby. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Super serious. No, the demo came out. Oh, the demo came out. When does that come out? Uh, I don't know, but it's coming out. Kirby. At some point. It's like the end of the month or something.
Starting point is 00:18:59 It's got to be pretty soon. March 25th. Yeah. Yeah. A couple of weeks. Yeah. They put out a demo for us. How's, how's, how's, so it's pretty.
Starting point is 00:19:09 That was our little. It's pretty fun. It's fun. I don't mind it. I think that it's kind of, um, uh, there's, there's basically, I'm trying to find the term and if it doesn't exist, I'm going to have to invent one and go with like the, like an engine reset game.
Starting point is 00:19:27 If you know what I mean when I say that where I don't, I don't know. I know exactly what you mean. I don't know for certain that like, I'm not, I don't necessarily know that this is a brand new engine. The starting fresh. Starting fresh. Like, uh, we need to, you know, so it's, it's going to be the
Starting point is 00:19:46 completely new thing for a little while. And we have to rebuild back up to where we left off. Right. We're going to have to just power through it. Oh, we're down. Much like the engine reset games. You got to just power through it. That's good.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Right. So. Hey, check it out. New monster hunter. We got to build back all these monsters that you left off on. Right. And then. Oh boy.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Okay. Hold on. Oh God. Damn it. Can you hear me at all? Click the button. Hope for the best. Let the.
Starting point is 00:20:28 That's how it do. Let the wires take care of the rest. That's my life now. I don't know. Yeah. My job is to sit here and talk into this and click a thing. Did the button, did the button do it? It clicked.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Like, oh, maybe. And then all the magic has to then be done by the, you know, the wills. Are we the magic? No, the wills that live inside these devices are the magic. You mean the greater wills? Yeah. They have to carry our sounds and video out to everybody.
Starting point is 00:21:05 I assume this is fine. If it don't, if it, if there's any other problems, then, you know, yeah, we'll deal with them as we, as we do, but this will do for now. I blame Amazon Luna for sucking up our precious bandwidth. I mean, as long as that we're one step at all times from literally just recording a phone call. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:21:36 You know, oh, yeah. Let me tell you, have you ever stream a game off your phone? Mm-hmm. Tepid. It's fucking terrifying. I fucking hate it. Um, yeah, because like the apps to use to stream your phone and be like, anything that shows up on this phone is going
Starting point is 00:21:57 to be on the stream. Yeah. Well, that's why I'm like, how is, how is there no way to turn that off? That's why you, that's why you turn on eight levels of notifications being off. You put yourself to do not disturb mode and you put on airplane mode.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Yeah. For real, man. Just like terrifying million things off so that I can show you some. What if, what if, what if my doctor texted me and it's like, Mr. Bovee, your, your butthole damage results are in terminal. It says, it says right here that you're very mad about it.
Starting point is 00:22:31 It's a trivial bullshit. That's a certified gaper. We've, we've coined the term permanent prolapse for what you've got. I don't know if that would all show up in like the text message preview part, but like, you know, people can piece two and two together. They can.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Yeah. Yeah. Anyway. Um, so what's up with you, Willie? Yeah. Uh, I was, I think I was trying to talk about Kirby and I think I was trying to say that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:03 You're talking about Kirby about the engine reset game, engine reset game. And, and, you know, in this case, I'm not going to confirm that I have no 100%. This is an actual engine reset, but it feels like an engine reset game in the sense that, um, they're doing a lot of things from, uh, uh, scratch and they're like ditching some of the progress that was made in the last games.
Starting point is 00:23:23 You know, uh, so. That makes sense. When you, when you engine reset, uh, Resident Evil, when you were engine reset, uh, Monster Hunter, you go into a brand new shiny fit like world, but it has less of the, of the classics that were ready and waiting from the most recent games. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:43 So for, for rise, we're finally back up to like the old monster numbers, for example. And, uh, in the case of Kirby, what that means is powers and the sophistication they're in, right? So it's just a demo where we're going off of hard to say, but it feels like as a result of switching over to this new 3D world, which was used in Star Allies as the overworld. Um, so in Star Allies, you, you control, uh, Kirby on a map
Starting point is 00:24:14 that is like the 3D that you're getting in, in Forgotten Land, but you just jump into the next level, right? And now to make that the actual, like main way the game is played, uh, a lot of the powers that were in the previous games had tons and tons of pages of moves and sophistication. Like I would say every, I mean, they made a Kirby fighting game and every power has like two, three pages worth of unique moves for each power.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Um, it was really cool. And that's, that's my favorite shit, right? That's what gets me, uh, uh, into these things. Cause you know, I like the whole like multiple power and power absorption thing. Um, but like, you know, Mega Man has that in a, in a very basic sense, usually get the charge shot and then a regular shot, but in Kirby's case, you have like a fuck ton of things
Starting point is 00:25:05 you can do when you, when you pick any given power, you know, um, and then you add the combiners from like 64 and stuff like that. It just gets incredible. So, um, the move list of the stuff in Forgotten Lands is now looking pretty, well, first of all, it doesn't exist in the, in the demo. Um, so, but what you can feel is something that's like back to
Starting point is 00:25:24 kind of basics. And I was able to find like a couple of like, uh, uh, not so obvious moves, like while blocking, if you have the sword and you attack, you could do like a stinger and then you can follow that up with like a launcher and then in mid air, you can then do a spin into a, a Helm splitter, you know. Um, that stuff is like, you know, so that's like, there's like one extra layer there or with the advanced form of the
Starting point is 00:25:52 bombs, you could like chain them together and to tether to create like five bombs that are all like tethered and shit. And you know, it seems like there's going to be these different levels to the power-ups that'll give them more moves, but it does still seem like we're going to be far from the like four pages of options you had with each power-up in the past, you know? They're kind of like bringing it back to some simple basics
Starting point is 00:26:18 in order to make this new engine or this new approach to Kirby games like work. Would you say that this is the DMC two of Kirby games? No, because that implies DMC two levels of bullshit and making it a bad game. And I didn't feel that at all. I felt like this was fun. Um, I don't mind, uh, at all the, the game.
Starting point is 00:26:43 It certainly felt like it was going to be a fun Kirby game. Uh, I just hope that, you know, by the time we make it through to the release and we see what these power-ups look like, that they don't end up being a super shadow of their comparison to what they used to be, you know? So the sword is going to have less moves. That's okay. But please have some as opposed to just like two, you know?
Starting point is 00:27:04 Um, yeah, I can feel like you use Monster Hunters. An example, the next Monster Hunter game is not going to be as hyper as Ryze. Like the, like a lot of those moves are going to go and they're going to go with a slightly larger that compared to world unified moveset because that's what they always do. They always do like a grounded one and like a hyper one with every feature you can imagine and they junk all the ones that
Starting point is 00:27:28 didn't work and then or weren't that good back to some fundamentals. Yeah, I think that, um, this leveling up system, you know, it might just be the thing I'm looking for. It might just be like maximum sword level will have all that old shit, you know? But for now, um, with the powers, with a single ability being leveled, uh, or being split into a couple of different levels,
Starting point is 00:27:52 it definitely makes me think you're going to not have as many power ups as you did at the end of like Star Allies where there are so many, you know? Um, and like something who knows though, right? Like nobody knows how long nobody knows how long the game is. Go and go and go. Exactly. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Or like a situation like Planet Robobot where it's like, well, this is a single serving game where the robot powers are all going to be used for this setting and then that's going to be it, you know? Um, it'd be super sick to see that shit come back. But either way, um, so the engine reset game is the term I'm going to go with. But you don't get that.
Starting point is 00:28:27 You don't get the feeling from this one that this is like a, a Kirby game for babies like, uh, say like an Epic yarn, which was like, well, like, like Kirby for every Kirby game is for babies, but then it stops being for babies. That's the, I didn't say that's the magic of Kirby every game. Every Kirby game is for babies and then it stops being for babies. That's what they are.
Starting point is 00:28:50 But, um, yeah, but there was also some, some other discoveries. For example, when you do the dodge, uh, like at the last second from a hit, um, you get some witch time, right? You get some slow down effects going. So there is some stuff that's in there that was just maybe not immediately obvious in the demo. Um, and you did pick ups. Maybe it's just hidden real deep.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Yeah. Well, um, usually you pause this game and you see a bit of lore and then you scroll sideways and then you see some moves, you know? So I hope we get something like that. Um, you also picked up some signs of like the companies on this destroyed planet that you're on, um, you know, and some, some implications, I guess, as to like who these,
Starting point is 00:29:37 what this planet was before it got overrun and destroyed and who the mega corpse were. Um, and possibly, you know, how it all went bad. And it's in the signs, possibly implying that there was some mega corporation war that could have possibly totaled everything. So, you know, the Kirby automata vibe is correct. Like it's going to do things and go places.
Starting point is 00:30:00 It's time for, it's time for our marshmallow throat goat to solve everything. Yep. You don't have to see any dead bodies, but you just got to, you just got to watch him gluck. You know? So, um, yeah, no, it was the, the what, that hurt me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:15 That hurt me. No, the one that hurt me was, uh, I mean, as we're playing, it's funny because I played through it and, you know, having and seeing the modes and just like having the, the, the natural reaction one does to it. And, um, you know, and then you're getting, getting the, the comments of people that are just like, if this is going to be the whole video of this is fucking unwatchable immediately
Starting point is 00:30:37 followed by yes, yes, die more on the inside. Willie, you know, and someone else who, the way they phrased it, cause, uh, in the, when mouthful mode debuts, he swallows the car, but he swallows the foxes first. Right. So the important detail here is that before the car in between the car and Kirby are those foxes that got swallowed. And because the swallow process was never fully completed
Starting point is 00:31:06 because the car is sticking out of his mouth, the foxes are still alive, stuck on top of the car in between the Kirby flesh and the car itself. And the term that was used by this commenter was the enemies have been vac bedded between the car and Kirby. And I like, oh, you got to stop and I'm going to sweat. Oh man. Vac bedded.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Voring has occurred. Don't like it. Don't like it. Do you see, do you see the, do you see the outline of the, of the foxes struggling to get out through the top of Kirby's head? Struggling, but also maybe one of them might be enjoying it. Like to any of them have erections.
Starting point is 00:31:59 That's the problem. Are the, are the erections visible from through the top? You can tell. That's the problem is that you can tell. It is the worst. It's just the worst. There's nothing salvageable. It's just, it's all bad.
Starting point is 00:32:19 So like, let's, let's try and put ourselves in the, in the, let's just put ourselves in the alternate reality of ourselves as maybe younger, don't know about for sex, shit, creepy people or whatever. And it's just the cartoon. Like, oh, I ate a big candy. Now I'm the size of the candy or, you know, whatever. Um, the car is what ruined it.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Literally the car one because it shows Kirby like stretch to nightmare proportions, but like with the car half in. Yes. The, the, in the cartoon logic. It's always, I ate a mailbox. Now I'm a, I'm a, I'm a mailbox shaped cartoon character. Yes. And they actually like, you know, there's all the other ones where
Starting point is 00:33:10 again, not as bad, right? Though the, the whole is still rough. As you see the pink inside of, of the, of, of through the whole when you're looking at Kirby. So the goat sea image is unseal is unignorable. You cannot, you have to confront it. Um, and furthermore, the pylon upon closer inspection, he's not just wrapped around the top of the pylon while the bottom
Starting point is 00:33:40 protrudes. He's wrapped around the, the, the cone top and half of the bottom. Oh. So the only protruding part is just half of, of the base of the pylon. And it's, it's, oh man, I hate you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:02 No big uncomfortable. Make, make, make no mistake. Um, but in any case, uh, fun Kirby, Kirby game, you know, and fun little basic introduction to where we're going. We got to find a boss fight. The boss fights are now, uh, this is what's interesting. So to just go back to the boss fight, that fucking tree, it was, uh, no, it was a big, uh, gory.
Starting point is 00:34:23 It was a big, big, angry gorilla. So, um, what you got in star allies, again, you had all these powers that were introduced and like brought up to the maximum level. And then, um, the overworld was the 3d world that we're getting to play in now. And then when you go into the final boss, okay, so this is the part where midway through my talk, you got something, what's
Starting point is 00:34:49 going on? I, I, no, it's, it's, there's not a new thing. Okay. It's just like this. I'm like, I'm just upset. Yeah. In a way that is making me giggle. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:00 I get upset. That's good. I'm just trying to keep it together out here. Well, so anyway, the point is, is the last boss of star allies is a big old fight that is 3d environment, uh, camera massively focused on the, the enemy in the center of the stage, third person action game giant boss. And, um, here, a number of the bosses in the, in the game are
Starting point is 00:35:21 shown off to be that way. And it seems like this is going to be the new way to fight. And like, even when you get into the mid, Kirby games have mid stage bosses where you fight like, uh, you know, like the, any of the special power dudes, the big hammer guy or like chili, the pay, you know, and all that stuff, they are now going to lock you into the circular arena as well. And you're going to have this like circular third person duel
Starting point is 00:35:43 with the, the bosses and mini bosses. Um, so that's cool because like the, the final boss of star allies being in set up in that way, it was actually pretty fun to control. It was, you know, a new thing, but it worked out and they've now turned that into the formula for how all the boss fights are going to go. And, and it feels, uh, yeah, it feels pretty, pretty fun to
Starting point is 00:36:04 like dodge and rotate, you know, especially with the co-op mode going. Um, I certainly hope that you get the ability to have co-op let them control whoever they want their friend to be because, uh, right now just being bandana D is like a little limited. Surely it's going to all that dude sucks. He's cool. He's cool, but you want more than bandana D.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Like now I mean, compared to the Kirby power set. Oh no, but no, but bandana D does a lot of cool shit with the spear. Like he can fly with, he's got a really good, like advanced move set with just a spear. It's pretty impressive. Well, can he for a car? No, but he can stab shit and fly.
Starting point is 00:36:39 It's, it's, it's cool. Um, but like if it's just kind of limited to waddle D and then, um, you know, metanite and, and DDD then like, it'll be like, that's cool. But yeah, hopefully it'll be the full power, uh, roster as well. Um, but in any case, it's, it's fine. It's a Kirby game and it's working. It's doing what it's promised.
Starting point is 00:37:02 It's playing out in a 3D map environment and it feels more like Mario 3D world than it does Mario, let's say Odyssey or Galaxy, you know, that's the thing to note too, is it feels more like 3D world where you're on a set of like almost little play sets connected to each other and you just crawl up a wall or you take an elevator and then you get to the next play set area. It feels more like that than it does, um, the, the, the larger
Starting point is 00:37:32 of those, yeah, like those, that Odyssey kind of feeling, you know, um, and that's good. That's good because those games were fun. So, uh, all in all optimistic. I just need to find out what's going to happen with these powers and, uh, where and how advanced they're going to be. The, the big sort of ability, uh, when leveled up in this was like barbarian Kirby, he had like the giant greatsword fuzzy,
Starting point is 00:37:57 like, um, collar, you know, and like a big warrior helmet. And I was like, yeah, that's fucking cool. I'm down with that. I like this energy. So mouthful mode aside, there was things to look forward to. It's all still just also so when you're in mouthful mode, you maintain the ability that you've previously eaten as a little helmet sitting on top.
Starting point is 00:38:27 So if you're like the cone and you have like the bomb ability, you know, the little bomb hat sits on top of the cone as you like flop around. Okay. I have a question. When you're in the car, where's the hat sit? Uh, I didn't see it on the car because that was like one of the early ones.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Cause if it's on the top of Kirby's head, it would be at the front of the car. And if it's the back of Kirby, that means it'd be on his asshole. I think it might be on the top, but I can't. I can't confirm where it was there. I didn't. I don't think I saw it.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Oh, all right. Yeah. So Kirby's coming along great. Um, I bet he is. I mean, uh, this might be revenge because, uh, uh, the. What was there? There was recent news about how, um, one of, uh, yeah, like there was a, uh, one of the directors of, of one of the, uh,
Starting point is 00:39:25 of the older Kirby games had never had a face like, uh, never had a photo of his face taken until recently. Right. Someone dug up like an, an old, old book and got an example of him. And so, uh, basically, yeah, the director, uh, of the dark matter trilogy, uh, Shimamura for the first time has been depicted and maybe that wrath is being carried out upon us
Starting point is 00:39:47 today. You know, um, Kirby's a weird franchise because, you know, outside of the basic idea of just like how being like, yeah, let's make some cute stuff and, and you like thinking of, you know, uh, Iwata and, and, you know, uh, Sakurai and all these people having fun back in the day, but that's like, oh yeah, there was an era of Kirby called the dark matter trilogy.
Starting point is 00:40:14 And then during that time there was a director, but nobody knew what he looked like. And he had no, no faith, no public image. He was just a mysterious person and people have literally theorized that he might be a cover name and, or like a collection of other people that don't want to be credited. It was a big old weird thing. You know, and like now there's a face and they're like,
Starting point is 00:40:35 okay, well, that's what he looks like, but it doesn't explain just the things we don't know. Like we're, we're unironically one step closer to like Kirby opening up his mouth and like an arm, just like a regular arm with like a gun coming out. I think we're going to hit a point in the future, not too far from now when it'll be time to like look back on this franchise and like you're going to need like a Netflix
Starting point is 00:41:03 documentary to really just bring people up to speed with like what the fuck? What, what's happening with Kirby? Where you like people who haven't been looking in are just going to see some stuff and it's going to get really, it's going to get really, really weird. I have a question. You have many questions.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Okay. I have a question. Let's say woolly looks at a guy. No, Kirby, you're woolly. Hello. Kirby looks at a guy named Bob, right? And he's like, Hey, Bob Boyo, right? And Bob's like, what's up Kirby?
Starting point is 00:41:40 And Kirby's like, why don't you climb in here and then absorbs all of Bob and becomes like a Kirby suit for Bob and Kirby's just walking around with Bob inside him and he's like man power, right? Or whatever, right? He's pink man there. Somebody said in the chat, pink man. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:05 And then Kirby goes to a bar and hits up a young lady, right? And they go back to the house to have relations. And then Kirby opens his mouth and then Bob's junk comes out of Kirby's face and then the girl get pregnant. Whose baby is that? Well, excellent question. Here's the thing. It all depends on whether or not Kirby has swallowed.
Starting point is 00:42:34 I'm assuming that he didn't swallow because if he did, Bob would have turned into stars and Kirby would have become the new Bob. That's not what happens, right? Because you see, you know. Well, no, Bob's a tall guy. Right. But it doesn't matter how tall he is because if Kirby swallows
Starting point is 00:42:51 Dr. Mario and then. Well, he's too big. He's too big as a person to be swallowed. The point remains is Kirby swallows Dr. Mario and then he swallows and now he walks out of the office and says, Sharon, send in my next patient because now Kirby is Dr. Mario. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:09 But and then and then there's the star of whatever he created inside his gut that gets spit out. However, in order for Bob to remain inside of Kirby undigested, then that would have to be mouthful mode, right? So the worst, I just saw the worst comment scroll by, which was that I've accidentally described the plot of Son of the Mask. Sure.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Now, you want an answer to your question. I assume that's why you asked it. No, I don't care. I just wanted to make people upset. Okay. As upset as I was when I thought of this. Well, now you're getting an answer too bad. Fuck you.
Starting point is 00:43:50 So the not swallowing of Bob, but the ability to have his dick stick out at that point implies that he is in mouthful mode. And as it stands, we've only seen mouthful mode apply to inanimate objects. Right. Right. We've only seen it apply to a car, a pylon, a vending
Starting point is 00:44:12 machine. We don't know how it interacts with living creatures and flesh just yet. It might just be a headcrab situation, but we don't know for sure. So what's the, what's the over under on ironically, this is not me fucking around that like Kirby tries to eat like a, like a giant crab or something.
Starting point is 00:44:29 And then, and then becomes like a crab shaped Kirby. Well, because in the past he has then just swallowed it and he becomes a Kirby with, with a little crab cosplay on him. Right. That's the, that's the deal. The deal is whatever he swallows, you know, if it's got powers at the very least, if it doesn't have powers, then it just gets swallowed and Kirby doesn't care.
Starting point is 00:44:50 I mean, doesn't everything have power? No, no, no, no, no, no, those foxes, those normal enemies, unremarkable enemies in, in on pop star don't have powers. They just get swallowed and become nothing. God, that sucks. Yeah. They get spit out as stars, but not everybody has a power to give Kirby.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Not everyone is worthy of his hunger. So those that are will grant him an ability at which point then he becomes cute Kirby cosplaying as you. But the idea of, uh, you know, the full organic creature being partially swallowed is brand new territory. We have not explored this yet. And so far, as far as mouthful mode has shown us, it's only, it's only technology.
Starting point is 00:45:36 It's only machines. So we need to see what happens in the full game. Yeah. Okay. That's what we all need to see. I mean, either you want to know where you don't, but, you know, anyway, um, what happened to Kirby if he tried to swallow a slightly larger car?
Starting point is 00:46:01 Oh, well, he's going to grow faster than he's going to grow larger. Oh, is that how that works? Yeah. I mean, there's an ending where Kirby becomes like humongous as he flies across the planet carrying all the food that was stolen. So he Kirby or he can become like fucking balloon sized
Starting point is 00:46:21 and lift a fucking castle. I mean, make no mistake. The size is not the issue. All right. So anyway, Kirby in the forgotten land, um, available soon looks like it's going to be a fun time. Now, um, I, I, uh, I eagerly await having to see you guys seeing them with the, uh, the co-op, the co-op options we get
Starting point is 00:46:48 with that other stuff this week, I suppose, um, Elden updates. Yeah. Hit me. Uh, well, I've been doing a lot of a lot of off screen cave hunting is basically what it's, what it's come down to. And there's a lot. Yes.
Starting point is 00:47:12 And I'm realizing right and I'm realizing what the flow of this, this LP is going to be. Um, because a lot of, when I last left off, I was in the middle of a storm veil and I basically, uh, peeked my head around and got to the little area outside where you have the three, like Colossae. Um, yeah. And, you know, and I, and then there's that, that big old, um,
Starting point is 00:47:41 fucking badass beast that you fight in the courtyard. Um, oh, I've been calling them Naruto lions. Yeah. That thing was cool. So it's been calling them narratives. I bought one of those and, um, that's where storm veil got to, but at the same, but at the same time, um, since we've paused our progress there, I'm now walking out into Learnea.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Yeah. And off camera, I've basically charted out almost all of it. Um, you think that. Well, so there's a large area to the north that I haven't passed yet, but like I've, I've basically gotten, um, as high as like the artist's shack in Learnea and, um, everything beneath that I've, I've, you know, like done my best to like map out the, um, the, the graces and like find, I found a couple of caves to
Starting point is 00:48:43 attend to. So what, what it's going to basically be is like, yeah, exploration, doing the homework off camera and then lining it up so that, you know, when it comes time to start, we're going to just progress hard. Um, well, that's less than half that zone. Sure. Well, well, then we'll go by what we'll go by map fragments then.
Starting point is 00:49:04 Okay. Okay. Because the point is, is I'm going to take a lot of that time and spend it lining up as many of those things I can find over the time. And then when we come back in, we get to hit them one by one and that seems like it's going to work out because, uh, the question where we left off with, uh, last session and where I am
Starting point is 00:49:27 at right now is a huge, the map, there's a huge new chunk of map and a huge whole lot of graces that never worked there before. So it feels like good progress. Um, let me ask you how far did you get in the storm veil exactly? I got to the, uh, I got to the, the, the courtyard. I, I went, I doubled back all around and then, uh, took out that beast.
Starting point is 00:49:56 And then I also went the other way and I saw the big party room and I jumped into the party room and the timing of which couldn't have been more hilarious as, as I was landing on the roof and Reggie is like, man, I thought there would have been more enemies in this big legacy dungeon. And I pan the camera over and we just see the army waiting facing like 30 guys and, you know, and like, it was the, it was the most perfect time, like, like in flub.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Um, so I jumped, did you meet the birds there? I did meet the birds there. Um, the birds there seem like, like there's a certain type of like maliciousness that the from software gang has and these birds are in full fucking force with that maliciousness. What if goofy bird had to follow the pathing of the stairs on the ground to get to you, but it's got swords on its feet and a flamethrower for a helmet.
Starting point is 00:50:54 What if goofy bird knew how to use explosives? Yeah. So I've basically, I mean, I've, I've just, you know, like nullified those into just being throw a dart and when they come to you, just hit a nicer post on them. But, um, but yeah, uh, the, the party room, I kind of was like, I saw where that was and then I went back the other way and now got to the courtyard.
Starting point is 00:51:21 So that's basically what it is. Have you found, okay. So their storm veil is the, is the moment when I started to understand that the, the from software level designers have decided to be like, well, we gave you a real jump button and fuck you if you're not going to use it because we're going to hide just every fucking possible dead angle, blind off the cliff over a ledge, fucking nonsense.
Starting point is 00:51:58 We can think of. Yep. I've had a couple of those. I've had one outside a storm veil just with, with torrent where you jump off a cliff and then jump backwards under the cliff. Yeah. And to get into a little ledge that had an item on it. Um, and then in storm veil, there's the jumping on the
Starting point is 00:52:19 rafters and then sprinting and jumping off at like a 40 degree angle to get to this one purple item type shit. My personal favorite. Uh, did you meet Roger? Yes. Uh, who was that again? Okay. He's the guy's asshole with the hat.
Starting point is 00:52:40 He's like, oh, you're here in the castle. Yes. I bought some spells from him. Yeah. Um, big hat. Like the, the, the, the most vindictive one is relatively near his position is like, what if you just jumped right off the castle?
Starting point is 00:52:55 Mm hmm. Just right off. And there's signs down there. Like the fucking rampart into, there'd be a little rock out cropping there that you can follow. It's like, why, why would I fucking think to do that? There's even a door that leads you to look down there to just see the fact that there's blood stains.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Yeah. You're like, oh my God, there's life and death happening that far. And it's, it's, it's, it's been this thing and from software games, like you'd see a message on something and you'd be like, well, clearly a human player could reach that. But in the prior games, 99% of the time that was like somebody doing some bullshit to get over to some area they're not supposed to.
Starting point is 00:53:34 But now like, you'll see like 10 messages. You're like, how the fucking. Yeah. And there's blood. Okay. There's no, that's a thing. That's a spot. And I'm already in the middle of like looking at some of these.
Starting point is 00:53:47 And here's an interesting too. The thing too is like the way that the castle has laid out some strong enemies. Once you open up the shortcut from the beginning, from the, that inner bonfire, you can run down. So right outside the Roger area, you have that tough shield knight. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:06 And then you go inside and then you got one of those axe fuckers and then you have a spear knight and then downstairs you've got a grafted scion. And I'm like, I can one V one these dudes and have a nice legit duel. But like, yeah, the back to back is going to be fucking rough going through all of them. And you do it.
Starting point is 00:54:27 Well, or don't do it. Right. And that's the thing is like after spending a bit of time where I'm like, okay, now I have to stop and go. My thing is to have fun learning the match in these duels, but we're going to have to move, grab the items, piece it back together. You have a crouched button in this game for a reason.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Certainly do. And yeah, no, that's exactly it. So it's like, there's a point you hit where I'm like, all right. In any other, like if I hit an enemy like the double grafted for example, or like the first one you meet in when you create your character, that's a run or die. Get the fuck out of here situation in this situation.
Starting point is 00:55:06 It was just doable enough that I was like, oh, but you can do this, you know, but it still wants you to just kind of run and get shit. So the grafted scion there. Like he'll he'll die. He'll die. He'll die. Like he'll, he'll die.
Starting point is 00:55:26 He'll stay dead. Like any, any, same thing with the lion, like any enemy of a certain strength will always stay dead. And so pages, I was watching pages footage and she's not very good at fighting those nights. Like she's pretty good at most of it, but like those specific nights that have the wind attacks, just fuck her up. Um, and what she'd managed was she got spotted by the
Starting point is 00:55:52 first one, ran her ass into the room with the other one, aggroed them both, ran them in circles until they lost her in the far room after she had already picked up all the items, then went to the balcony and use cookies. Oh my God. To fucking snipe the grafted scion in the, in the room. And it, so cookies do bleed and they stack and they, the consumable items scale with your stats.
Starting point is 00:56:23 So with like 20 knives, she just blew that fucking thing up and had no chance. Interesting. Okay. And then she just hopped over and got the grace and was like done. Did it. Uh, and it's like that.
Starting point is 00:56:37 What the fuck? Did you completely bullshitted that whole fucking sequence of events? It was a win. I mean, I went in. I fought my ass off for like an hour getting through that same spot. You didn't like four minutes.
Starting point is 00:56:48 I went, I went with a like half magic shots and then I put bleed on the, on the blood house. Then I went bleed on the blood blade and jump down there and try to do it. But yeah, no, like those, those, those wind dudes, like they, they absolutely can fuck you up and they were, they were a pain in my ass for a good bit of that stream as well.
Starting point is 00:57:12 Um, I'd tell, I'm like, I just need enough runs to figure out where you can swing and where you can't, you know? Um, I think the main reason, at least in my build, why they presented such a, a, a, a awakening moment is because they don't poise break like, and they also don't bleed pop. So everything going heavy enough on them consistently, even when they're winding up, you're like, you're probably
Starting point is 00:57:36 going to pop or crumple right now at some point, right? And they never did. I've never gotten one to simply to fall over. Um, and so as somebody who's spent a good time with the game, I will say literally every single thing in the game will eventually poise break, but that can include like nine jump attacks in 30 seconds. Okay.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Okay. Like a lot of them are, and the larger your weapon, the more it'll do. So some are disproportionately dramatically more difficult. Uh, there are enemies that won't bleed. Uh, but things that I would consider with things that you would look at and consider alive, uh, will bleed
Starting point is 00:58:29 at some point. It's just, it was without, it's much harder for it seemed like it just wasn't, it wasn't going. Now, since then, I've learned quite a few things. One, I came back down around to that fucker and he became a shop and he sold some shit. Um, and one of those things he sold was a nice paracetis and I put those bad boys on and I started
Starting point is 00:58:51 fucking testing out the one, two, one, two, because now fist weapons are dual automatically, which is the greatest. A lot of them are. A lot of weapons are dual. Claw is automatically dual. Yeah. Fantastic.
Starting point is 00:59:05 There's a great sword you can get in the game when you two hand it instead of two handing it, you pull a second grid set. That's awesome, man. Because yeah, like just, you know, make it more fun for unique moves to, and for people who want to play a fist weapon, you want to play one player claw, you want to pair it, play claws.
Starting point is 00:59:22 You probably want both, you know, like just they, like they know that most people grabbing one of these aren't, don't want to wait to find another set of claws in the games later and then now you can finally power stance it. Yeah. You know, so you put those fucking fists on, right? And in this case, I'm looking through the ashes
Starting point is 00:59:41 and the only one I have that'll get that damage up is with the holy blessing. So you put the holy blessing on and you fucking bam, call one out, pour one out for God and then run in and just Tekken style R2 pop, pop, pop, pop and you watch them fall to their knees, get back up and fall to their knees again. And I've done it on, there's like a lightning night
Starting point is 01:00:06 that's wandering through Learnea up top. I just like straight up while he's getting his, his big windups going, like just keep R2-ing. Fuck you. Get the crumple in and then repost, charge it up again. And you have the exact timeframe of when you repost, you can charge your next hard R2 and it'll hit them as soon as they get up, you know.
Starting point is 01:00:30 So, Elden Ring has a real strength that a lot of the Dark Souls games don't have. And that is, I've played all of these games to death and you get to the point where you get a new weapon and you're like, oh, cool move set. And then you look at the number and you hit a guy with it like twice and you're like, this thing is garbage. I consistently was surprised by stuff going,
Starting point is 01:01:07 oh no, wait, no, this has a purpose. This, this, this has a use. There's a, there's a range on this. So like a late in my game, I was using a great sword that did a lot of holy damage. And I bought and upgraded a different unique great sword that also did a lot of damage, but it did fire instead of holy. But it didn't do nearly as much as the holy one.
Starting point is 01:01:32 I was like, ah, it's a bummer. I feel like I wasted it. And then I used the weapon art. And the weapon art was 10 times better on the one that did less damage. It was like a long, wide beam all the way down like 30 feet. And I'm like, oh no, this is a completely different thing. This is, this is a gun that sometimes is a sword.
Starting point is 01:01:58 Um, and, and, Was it a different effect or was the numbers better? Oh, it was, it would, they were actually very similar effects, but one was a beam that looked like, looked like a, like an air cutter, but it was actually just like a single projectile. It would go straight forward about 10 feet and hit somebody and it would do one, they hit a damage. The other one would do what looked like a power geyser
Starting point is 01:02:24 for maybe 30 feet and would knock down anything it hit and did twice as much damage and was, was like also like five feet wide. And was like, oh, oh, these are superficially very similar. Yeah. But they're actually totally different. Well, I'm looking at what ashes are, are compatible with what and I'm, and it's, and I'm looking at it and I'm seeing how it's like daggers are compatible with carrying greatsword for example.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Right. You can, you can, you could just take the smallest little nub and do the biggest fucking overhead with it. Um, yeah. What I have right now, I'm, I'm playing a, I'm, I'm doing an off camera run with a, with a magic man and I have a rapier, which has the critical multiplier of 130 and I have carrying great, uh, carrying phalanx on it, which is the little swords
Starting point is 01:03:14 and that staggers people. And then you just stab them with the extra crit damage on it. And like that's the whole game plan. So that's what I'm, I was looking and I noticed I was like, okay, so hold on a minute now. Like Misericard is like 140 crit. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:29 That's high. So what, yeah. I'm like, so like, what can we do to build something around actually swinging around this little dagger? You know, um, is there an ash? Find, find something that does a lot of stagger damage. And is there an, is there an ash, uh, that like also uses crit in some way, you know, cause like that's the thing.
Starting point is 01:03:50 There's, there's, there's 91 ashes of war. So that I'm like, I'm like, okay. The, the, the combinations here are playing a really fun game of like find the perfect match, you know, including four different parries. Exactly. Um, um, regular parry, fucking, uh, buckler parry. You know, um, at least it's. Oh no, no, much, much, much more esoteric than that.
Starting point is 01:04:16 Okay. You've got regular parry. You've got parry and it puts a little shield wall in front of you that stops spells. You've got regular parry that if you hit a spell with it, it creates a carrion phalanx for, for free. Shit. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Okay. And then you have later in the game, there's a holy parry, which costs fp to do, but extends the parry hit box to three characters wide and three characters away from you in front of you. Holy fuck. So you can parry misses. Wow. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:54 Okay. Yeah. Um, it's, it's the, the, I'm, I'm very excited for like possibilities. Oh, there's fifth one I never used. Well, there you go. I'm, yeah, I'm hoping no, I'm hoping to run into something to just like lock it in and have the combo of like this and this together are a match made in heaven.
Starting point is 01:05:13 So I, I should mention, I beat the game on Friday and I would consider the run that I did 99% complete. I started my stream and I was like, that's a dungeon. That's a dungeon. That's a dungeon. Literally three of them. And there was a fourth one down in Caleb that I had been saving and like, no, I'm going to go beat the game.
Starting point is 01:05:37 So I left those four, but did everything else and my takeaways on the game are many, one of which goes straight to what we're talking about with the ash of war system. You actually get way, way, way easier and more upgrade materials for unique weapons than you do regular weapons. Oh really? Regular weapons, regular weapons are a lot harder to upgrade. It is much easier.
Starting point is 01:06:05 Smoldering smithy stone is as frequent. Yeah. When I, when I finished Learnea, I had a plus nine unique weapon and had that for the whole game, for the whole remainder of the game. But now that I've been playing it a little bit more, the reason for that is pretty simple. And it's because if you have, let's say the long sword, the simplest, most bare bones weapon you'll ever find in a Dark Souls game, right?
Starting point is 01:06:38 That long sword has the potential to do ice damage and whorefrog stomp or bleed and use blood slash or poison and do the poison mist attack or carry in phalanx and do magic damage and thrust or like a huge stab move or a flip move that goes through people's blood. And the long sword is actually like 50-ish different unique weapons because of the Ash of War system. Something I was curious about, because I basically going through Learnea, you know, and seeing some of the events and getting some more ashes out there, you know, I've
Starting point is 01:07:23 been, I've been just toying with the builds and I'm wondering like, so if you go power stancing on something and on two blades and each one blade has frost in it and the other has bleed in it, that dual attack will build up both, correct? Yeah, totally. And then you can also stack secondary effects on each of those individually. So I found a rapier. Meaning you could quadruple effects? I found a rapier that did rot as its innate effect.
Starting point is 01:08:00 And that rapier worked with the Ash of War system. And what I was able to do was I was able to put poison mist as its weapon art on. And then I had found the wet blade that allows me to change the damage type to blood. And so this was a rapier that did blood damage. It did bleed procs on stabs. It proc'd rot on stabs and the weapon art would shoot poison out and was able to go back to the early game giants and successfully test that by putting this thing on, unleveled, don't need the level, right?
Starting point is 01:08:43 It doesn't need to do more damage. It doesn't matter and stab something six times and do the weapon arts twice. They would have had a bleed proc, have rot on and be poisoned. And the rot and poison procs are separate. Wow. Wow. And so for a little bit, I considered having that in one of the second weapon in my right hand and just switch to that and just go po po po po and then switch to my regular weapon.
Starting point is 01:09:12 But the weight didn't work out and I already had different ways to apply rot and whatnot. Here's a fun little example. If you have something that can cause the frost bite effect, which caused a huge damage burst. I got one. I finally got one. What is it? Is it called whore frost on? No, I think it's like frost blade or frost spear.
Starting point is 01:09:33 Whatever. Anything that does ice, right? If you have anything that does ice, you hit them with ice and the ice status is frost bite. And what that'll do is it will do a big damage burst. It's like the magical equivalent of being bleed and they'll take a little bit more damage for a while while they're in the icy state. So that's cool, but you can't do the frost burst while they're frosted. It doesn't work.
Starting point is 01:09:53 And I'll take a little while to run out unless you hit them with any fire attack, which will cancel out the frost effect. Literally. At which point you can re frost them. Gil retribution system in Street Fighter five. Hit him with ice, hit him with fire, keep the combo going. So you can literally use an ice weapon to burst somebody and then switch to like a dagger that you put fire on and go, boop.
Starting point is 01:10:21 Damn. And then immediately go back to frosting. Damn. Okay. Okay. So that's cool. I hope you don't mind, but I'd like to break down like how I feel about the game now that I've beaten it.
Starting point is 01:10:34 Please do. This is kind of my last series of thoughts. Absolutely. So one, the game is excellent. It's the best game I think from software has ever made. I think it's, I think it's just as significant as Breath of the Wild was when that came out. I should also know it is absolutely. Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 01:10:50 Sorry. No, just I was going to note that your timing is on point as well because it seems to be this is the week in which people have started becoming pretty brazen and unapologetic about just like last boss related tweets. Don't, don't use tech talk. No, no, no, not even not that. Just don't. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:11:11 Just don't use it to me. I've had, I've had at least four or five people send me tweets relating to last boss related things. And it's just like, thanks guys. There's like 85, there's like 85 unique bosses in the game. You'll be fine. Oh yeah. No, I know.
Starting point is 01:11:26 It's just, you know, people don't think so. I know they're there. I, I just the other day, and this is the fifth time I think I mentioned it. I think I mentioned it once once a day on my streams where I was talking about the family relations with Mark and Radigan and all these kids. And somebody was like, oh man, how about that massive spoiler that the game hides behind a quest? And I'm like sick.
Starting point is 01:11:49 I'm, I hope you earn your PhD. You fucking idiot. Yeah. Yeah. You fucking moron. Thank you. I mean, in, in, in one, in this particular case, besides just like people like talking about it for whatever, there's like a, there's like a piece of Miyazaki news relating to
Starting point is 01:12:04 his designs on the, on the bosses or whatever. And in this case, it's one that's being like, oh, that's a, that's, that's a fake story about feet. Okay. Well, I'm just like, straight up fake story about feet. But I'm just like, I don't, don't even, don't send me anything that's, you know, please don't, don't be that, that thick. So game is, game is stupid, incredible.
Starting point is 01:12:25 It's absolutely amazing. It is definitely not flawless. I have encountered dozens of what I can only describe as straight up mistakes, not bugs, mistakes in the game. I, it feels very, very strongly that many enemies did not get a final pass before release. There are dogs in some areas. Yeah. I found them.
Starting point is 01:13:00 When they bite you, they apply multiple stacks of bleed on you. And when the bleed hits, you hemorrhage multiple times a second and just explode. Okay. There is no goddamn way that is the way that is supposed to work. No fucking way. There are enemies walking around. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:30 Yeah. They hit way harder than they should. That you know, then you expect there are, there are NPCs walking around two or three zones from the end in some random ruin that all have way more health than the final series of enemies in the game, like in the final dungeon. There is a, there is a door boss. There is a tree sentinel that sits in front of one of the game's final bosses and it's just an annoying thing of like, maybe you want to take this tree sentinel out before
Starting point is 01:14:02 you do the boss run because you're going to probably be going back and forth to the boss door. That is way, way harder than the boss he is guarding, like by an order of magnitude. It took me 15 times to get the tree sentinel and I beat the boss in three. Now I have to say that like, I've also been introduced to EverJail 2 and I met Crucible. Yeah, those dudes are awesome. And it was great. It was great.
Starting point is 01:14:38 Crucible is just an honest fucking real fight. Love it. Love it. Love it. Yeah. The difficulty of Crucible. Oh, he. The place he's in.
Starting point is 01:14:49 Part of the, oh yeah, it's fucked. It's insane. Right? Yeah. So here's the thing. Crucible Knights kind of have, like they, they have the least stat crunch of any enemy I've found in the entire game. Like ones you find later are tougher, numerically, but like, you know how you'll fight a dog
Starting point is 01:15:12 in Limgrave and you'll kill it in one hit and then you'll fight a dog five zones later and it'll take four hits and the same weapon. Yeah. Yeah. The Crucible Knights are like, they're 16 of them and they are pretty close to each other. Oh shit. Okay.
Starting point is 01:15:28 This is a. It feels like a unit of guys. This is going to be a thing. Okay. Oh yeah. I wasn't sure. Well, so the game's balance is kind of all over the place with some areas and you run into like hard, ridiculous, stupid shit.
Starting point is 01:15:43 There's a boss in the Weeping Peninsula that with like a level one character, you kill him in like eight seconds and you're like, what? Why does he have like less health? Yeah. Why does his care? Why does his boss have less health than the enemies in his own dungeon? Hmm. Right.
Starting point is 01:16:00 Like stuff like that. I was there. Spells that are the upgraded versions of spells that cost more FP that straight up just do less damage. I was weirded out because the third ever jail I found was the Fire Thief who and he's a bitch. That was nothing. It was just a normal enemy.
Starting point is 01:16:23 Yeah. You know, he's a bitch and he drops. He drops a, he drops the flame of the God was a 41 faith spell, which is. Drumroll please. Fucking awful. Oh yeah. Too slow. I leveled up.
Starting point is 01:16:39 Oh dude. Like I love when he used it. It was really slow. Yeah. I played a faith character and I'm like, oh man, I have all these super high level faith sorceries and they're terrible. All the low level faith ones are great because the high level ones are trapped in my brain. I was like putting together some headcanon here where I'm like, damn, I guess they locked
Starting point is 01:17:00 all the bad asses in these ever jails and then this jump comes to you that we're like usually that. So what was that? Balance wise. Yeah. The game definitely has issues. There's some shit all over the place that is like I foresee in the usual thing of from software's regulations updates instead of patches that some of that's going to get tuned
Starting point is 01:17:24 damage numbers on a lot of stuff is going to get tuned. I think whore for a stomp in particular, which is the best skill in the game. Is that what you're calling it? Yeah. Tuned. It's called whore for a stomp. That's the name of them. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:17:37 It's best in the game is what you're saying here. The speed runners fucking move of choice has got to run under 29 minutes with that. Okay. Yep. Okay. It's it's flat out the best one, just 100%. So all that being said, I can't believe how big the game is even after our discussion last week, I got to what I was of the belief was the end of the game and the game portrays
Starting point is 01:18:12 it as the end of the game only to be given six more zones, zones, zones. One is a I'm counting legacy dungeons as well. So you chose to end prematurely. You chose to end prematurely. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. When I say I skipped four dungeons, I mean I skipped like the little catacombs that have the gargoyles in them. Okay.
Starting point is 01:18:56 When I'm saying is that what I thought was the end of the game was then followed up by three entire map segments and three more legacy dungeons. And I could not believe it. Like I'm walking through a zone and like, oh man, this feels like the total end of the zone. And that was like 22 hours before I beat the game. Fucking hell. Okay.
Starting point is 01:19:29 Okay. Like it's so, so fucking stupid big. And there are so many fucking like best of bosses in that last stretch. There are some great goddamn bosses in that last stretch. In particular, an entire optional zone and optional legacy dungeon feels like a DLC. The requirements to unlock the part of the map are difficult and obscure, just like from soft DLC always is. And then you get there and the way that it is tuned and the way that it looks and the
Starting point is 01:20:17 way that it relates to the rest of the game feels like post game DLC content that you just happened to get in the base game. Nice. Okay. Um, it is just so stupidly massive and outside of a couple balance problems like I described, it stayed good right up until the end. Okay. And by right up until the end, I mean right up until the second phase of the final boss,
Starting point is 01:20:50 which is kind of bad. Okay. It's not as bad as it could have been, but it's kind of bad. Um, is there anything in the game that you would comfortably describe as the super boss? Yes. Okay. Very comfortably. Okay.
Starting point is 01:21:12 The game describes them as such. Okay. And when they give you, uh, more than, when they give you like a hundred and eighty thousand runes more than the final boss, it's very clear what order you were supposed to do them in. Okay. So I did all the optional shit, including the super boss first, which left me in a situation where the rest of the game by its comparison was much easier.
Starting point is 01:21:47 Um, can you to use an analogy, beat Gwynne, leave and do the rest and then pick your own one? Oh yeah. No, no, no. You get, you get asked, Hey man, you want journey to. Okay. And then you go, no. And then you can go clean up about your heart's content.
Starting point is 01:22:03 Okay. So there is a, there is a very serious point of no return in the game that, uh, I will let you know about when you are near it. How many hours before the end is the point of no return? Oh, hours, uh, maybe six to eight hours. Oh, okay. Depending on how, depending on how good you are on the boss, say like 40, like every, basically you, you, the, the, the world state changes in a way and a couple areas become
Starting point is 01:22:35 inaccessible. Gotcha. So you need to be, you need to be aware that that will happen before you kill a boss or else you could get locked out of shit. Yeah. I mean the, the cleanup quote unquote process here I see as like probably more of just a like any last funsies you want to get out before we restart like, because the true, true cleanup is like, that's, that's insane.
Starting point is 01:23:03 You can't possibly thoroughly comb, I, I, uh, except for that last session where I skipped a hero's grave in three of the catacombs dungeons, I, I did it. And part of that reason is that I had a group of about a thousand people going, dude, there's a thing there. Go here. Do that. Do this. Gotcha.
Starting point is 01:23:24 Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, so I'm definitely, yeah, the, the version of what word of, of, of the game that has an audience like doing that is super different from people that don't. And the people that don't, it's like good fucking luck with the scrape, unless you just pull the guy out really, which I assume is going to be most people. My final time with off, off my final stream time was just over 100 hours.
Starting point is 01:23:57 And that included finding nearly every single item or cool thing of note because people were helping me as a live human Wikipedia as I went. If I did not have that, I would instead have had the experience that I had very early, very early before anybody knew anything, which was like, uh, somebody told me about a specific blood stain I had to go look at in the bottom of Stormvale Castle. And I'm like, what? And then I had to go all the way back to the bottom of Stormvale Castle and look at a specific blood stain.
Starting point is 01:24:35 And I was like, what the fuck is this? And then it started a side quest and I had to go on this, et cetera, et cetera, right? That experience would have been happening daily talking to people and the actual hour count would have kicked up to like 140, 150, 160. And that doesn't even account for the state differences where numerous people were like, when I went back to the, um, the scumbag at the start at the front of the gates in Stormvale. Yeah. I had a bunch of, I saw a bunch of people going, what the fuck?
Starting point is 01:25:11 He never became a shop for me, you know, that's weird. Well, and like other things like that were like, what the fuck? This played out differently. That's not how it went. And my one, you know, so there's state differences as well. Oh man. You want to, you want to hear, you want to hear a fun little secret about that character? I mean, you may have interpreted.
Starting point is 01:25:30 Did you go through both paths like left and right? No, I went, I went side path, came back down, dropped and met him. And like, I heard his laugh after the tee, he, he, he trap, uh, and then I was like, ah, you fucker. And then he's like, oh, oh, oh, uh, you know, by all means here, let me sell you things. And I was like, okay. And then he's like, and then I said, then I chose the option to like, hey, what if you pick gate anyway?
Starting point is 01:25:53 And then, uh, we just tested it and you, and like, yeah, you approach and then the gates open. Um, but I did. You ever die in that area? Uh, yeah, but not running straight from the front. I've, I've only gone around the side and started picking people off, but you've died a couple times. Right?
Starting point is 01:26:11 I think so. I think at least twice. I assume you have died at some point in Stormvale. Yes. Yes. No, no, I've died multiple times in this castle. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:22 You ever noticed that you don't get all the souls back? No. Really? Yep. I didn't notice that. Hmm. Huh. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:26:34 30% of your runes don't go back to your body when you go pick them up specifically in Stormvale. Yep. Specifically, if you use that side path after that guy tells you, and after he locks you into that room to kill you, and if you want to go get your runes back, you can, though I would suggest waiting until the end of story, I'm, I'm, I'm the woman you turn into a shop. I'm going to wait. That's my, that's, yes, I basically said, I said that out loud on stream. I'm like, look, as soon as I'm done buying what I got to buy, we got business, you know.
Starting point is 01:27:13 So fun fact, all shopkeepers drop the bell item, which you can give to the Twin Maiden Husks and just get their shop there. So in what is the most unfortunate, optimal way to play the game ever, the optimal way to deal, the optimal way to deal with all the merchants in the game is to immediately kill them and take their, their, their fucking stock back to the, the round. That's a very interesting fix for the problem of sin, you know, but I don't want to miss out on unique dialogue. So, you know, I like, for example, the sorcery trainer that I'm talking to who you may or
Starting point is 01:27:58 may not have killed, um, is when I give her certain scrolls, she has little quips and things to say. And as you buy more, she says things that I've noticed. So I'm like, okay, I want to hear the lines. I want to hear what these people have to say. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, don't, don't, don't kill the anybody important. I'm, I'm preferring specifically, um, it's specifically the, the optimal way is the,
Starting point is 01:28:22 the, the little, the nomad shop guys, cause they never go anywhere with anything. Well, I mean, look, you see, you see some areas you walk in and the game says, Hey, no swinging. And you're like, okay, big hat, no swing. But then other areas they're like, maybe swing. Do what you want. Yeah. Don't.
Starting point is 01:28:44 Yeah. It's a good, it's a good idea to never stab anyone. That's, that's just, I like the little violin music that, that, that one plays up by the bridge. It's very nice. Um, so that is, so that's what I saw. Uh, I'm, I worked my way through the swamps, uh, which one I, uh, yeah, exactly, right? So I went to, um, the swamp that is a west of Limgrave along that coast where you drop
Starting point is 01:29:15 down in and then, uh, you get greeted by a little, a little, little lobster comes to say hi. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, like, hey, lobster, you're cute. Hey, hey, hey, dude. Hey, at least you can't be as bad as the crab, right? Lobster's like, oh, my power, oh my God.
Starting point is 01:29:40 And then you're like, I'll run away. I'll run away from the lobster and then they snipe you off your horse like a lot, like a fucking holy marksman. Yeah. I got sniped, power dunked, uh, rocked and unsocked by a lobster, uh, the unrepentant cruel maliciousness of the average wildlife animal in a from software game cannot be understated. Like they specifically built it to defy your expectations of what the wild creatures would
Starting point is 01:30:13 be here. Cause you know, I, when I later on then saw like, oh, here's a bunch of pyromancer bad asses and a really cool one waiting behind them. I'm like, ooh, you're probably tough. And then I get off and I punch him around and I fucking knock him over in the post. And I'm like, yeah, you're fine. But the lobsters true fear in their ability to chase torrent and not only like outpace but catch up while winding up.
Starting point is 01:30:40 Oh, it's, it's wild. It's fucking wild. Um, yeah. So they're like, they got that going, um, got, uh, uh, bro left, I believe, right? Got to experience. Oh yeah. Got to experience that man. That's a big good old bro leg.
Starting point is 01:31:01 That's a pocket Tarkas. You know, yeah. Pocket Tarkas is doing work. There's a couple. There's, there's a Oleg. There's Ludiel. There's one I won't mention because it's one of the game's best surprises. And, um, also, and like, I like how, you know, at first in, in, in a limb grave, you're walking
Starting point is 01:31:20 around and you see little skirmishes between some nights and some monsters. And then you fucking hit the, you go a little further up and then a little skirmish between some, some magic ghosts and some nights and then, oh shit, the giant magic giant. And oh boy, we got a battle here and now you're in the middle of some shit. Some of those events are quite fun to run into. So I can't believe how consistently good the game stayed for its entire runtime. Like you definitely start to see some of the same tricks, but they're still unique, like lots and lots and lots of unique stuff all the way to the dead ass end of the game.
Starting point is 01:32:04 Like in the final section of the final map, I found like a whole little town that was like a type of puzzle I had never seen in the game before. I found a town that's just chilling there and nothing's really going on, but I don't know what to do. I'm just enjoying it. I guess. What do you mean? I, so I, I dropped down and I found a, a Jarberg and I'm like, oh, yeah, Jarberg's cool, man.
Starting point is 01:32:27 It's where the fucking, it's where Alexander killed Jar's live. Yeah. It's, it's Alexander's people and I'm like, Hey guys, and they're all chill. One of them is a little bit angry and I can understand why it seems like a dead parent was nearby, but you know, I'm just picking flowers and chilling around in Jarberg and I'm like, anything going on here guys. So, um, and they're like, nah, it's just jarring. So built, so building on the idea that the game might have been a little bit cut corners
Starting point is 01:32:56 is that good old Zully the witch and illusory wall and such have been able to be digging around in the game and I've discovered some cool shit like 16 NPCs named they are yet unseen, um, but have also found, uh, in NPC quest, uh, charts that, uh, there are a bunch of quest lines that just didn't make it in that, that have like in, in one case there is a, a key item in the game that you get from a quest line that doesn't do anything Oh, because, because the, the fucking shit just doesn't go anywhere. They didn't have time to finish it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:33:48 Um, so Jarberg particularly looks like there was going to be shit there and it just kind of got cut. I mean, I was expecting a shop, you know, like just a single thing instead you get a lot of ritual pots there, which are, you know, cool key items for your crafting. Yeah. I haven't done it. I guess I haven't done a ton of using of them, but, um, has the, has the rope stuff been any good for throwing backwards while riding?
Starting point is 01:34:15 Like, has, have you done any of that seems so situational, you know, I, I used, I used a weapons that had innate statuses on them and I used a lot of faith magic. So like the goal of a lot of the consumables was lost on me. Like if you go faith, you get a spell that will cure poison and rot off you. Yeah. And like, that's like 90% of my use of consumables nullified. Um, one of the reasons that the game stays like so interesting all the way through is this is absolutely using all the parts of the Buffalo game design that I have.
Starting point is 01:34:59 It is the, it is the most efficient reuse of content I have ever seen. The amount of enemies in this game, I, I think almost every single Dark Souls three enemy is in this game somewhere. They might have a different model. They might have a different effect, but they're in there. Like all the gargoyles are those little thrall dudes from Dark Souls three. If you fought an erd tree avatar, that's just asylum demon again with a couple new moves, et cetera.
Starting point is 01:35:36 Um, and in addition to that reuse, every trick I have ever seen in a from software game is in here somewhere. Every single fucking way to confuse where you are in a dungeon. Way to fuck you off a platform, way to hide a drop, way to bullshit a secret has been in here in addition to brand new ones, which are so absolutely asininingly obscure that they cannot possibly, possibly be meant to be discovered by anyone on their own as a normal thing, of course, in one particular case, I found out yesterday that a combination of clothing and specific gestures
Starting point is 01:36:39 that unlock special doors can be used in areas in which there are not special doors to manifest invisible letters. Oh, OK, OK, that that's how bad we're getting. I fell off impossible, I fell impossible off a beam onto an invisible platform. Yeah, OK, no, that's just impossible. No games, no, no, there's no figuring out. It is someone trips into it and the internet will tell you that this happened. Try it yourself.
Starting point is 01:37:25 Like if you're not playing, if you're not in the situation we're at in which you have a scrolling text log of, dude, there's something there. Oh, my God, you are meant to exclusively read it in a message on the on the thing or talk to somebody in your discord and be like, ha, ha, ha, man, that was so cool when this happened. And then they go, what did you manage to get this? And you go, no, I mean, like messages are just this weird thing that are like they're supposed to kind of or not supposed to they are received as a
Starting point is 01:38:04 bathroom wall with a sharpie, you know, 90 percent of the time. But like things like that, like you a dev message has to go down to say, oh, yeah, this is a real path you can walk on, by the way. This is not, this is not a, you know, to get you even think, but like gesture plus costume to get a door open is like there's no reason to ever unless a sign shows you there. Um, there seem, I saw somebody talked about this on social media and I have to agree from softwares design.
Starting point is 01:38:44 I mean, this is, this is a gut feeling, right? This is in my chest. It's not, I don't have proof of this. But the way that it seems to have, the game seems to have been designed is that there is a main path, right? Get this demigod, get this demigod, go through here, get this demigod, et cetera, et cetera, right? That stuff seems to have been balanced like a video game, right?
Starting point is 01:39:07 Anything that's on the side path, the farther off the path it goes, the more likely somebody said, you know, we can make this as bullshit as we want because they don't have to do it. And, um, there's one chariot dungeon, one lava dungeon and a couple bosses in which I'm like sitting here, going like this is probably as hard as they can make it without it being impossible, like sprinting away from chariots and weaving in between multiples, only to jump on like narrow one foot beams and do platforming challenges, level of nonsense.
Starting point is 01:40:01 And, and being like, man, wow, this was, this is a real out of the way spot. And because of that, you guys really felt that you could just do whatever the fuck you wanted in here. And I think they also know that it's okay for them to create year four secrets that won't be discovered until year four of the game existing. You know, hey, here's, they have one for you, no qualms about that. Here's one for you, Willie. How many endings do you think this game has?
Starting point is 01:40:43 I hope three. No. Try again. Good, bad, neutral. No, not even a, give me numbers. Five. No. Okay, but do you mean like goofy shit credit roll or like there are, there
Starting point is 01:41:11 are six unique endings and five of them require the completion of the respective characters quest. Okay. Sure. Sure. Hmm. One of which is the most absurd sequence of events I have ever seen a game lock its ending behind.
Starting point is 01:41:54 Like literally would never have been able to even guess at how to achieve it without people telling me. You just, you cannot improvise. Like, well, you just talked about wearing clothing and doing gestures like to make things happen. It, it, we were entering to a realm of, um, there is no such thing as to obtuse. And if Sekiro is any indicator, they don't feel bad about this path. They don't, they love it and are really willing to triple down on it.
Starting point is 01:42:29 Yeah, actually come to think of it. Uh, so of, of the, of the, the, there's, you know, cause you have your ending, which is like a slide show with a different color on it. Right. And a slightly different voice act, uh, slightly different, um, voiceover. Then you have your legitimate different ones and those ones require work and all three of them require the most work I have ever seen in a game to get a different ending in, in, in two of their cases, you need to play the game for an
Starting point is 01:43:06 extra 15 to 30 hours to get them. Okay. Because they are locked behind like five extra bosses and in some cases an entirely new zone and it's sounding like they're mutually exclusive. Nope. You can do it all. I did it all. All right.
Starting point is 01:43:29 And then you get to the end and you literally just pick. Okay. If you, if you fulfill the criteria for all but one, you get to the end and you just, you just pick ABCD. Um, and there's one that will lock you in early and characters will be looking you dead in the face, the player and going, you will be locked into this. If you go here, don't do it. Well, look, I mean, there's just, there's only so much of this I can hear before
Starting point is 01:44:00 in my brain just glosses over and just goes, right, this is the forever game. It's just forever. And then, you know, you'll hit the moments that you hit. And then you'll, the impact will set in when I see it for myself. But as of now, I'm just like, yeah, I don't, I don't know. It's just, it's, I get, it's the forever game. There's nothing else I can really say. The game has a complex, um, major, major dungeon that took me multiple hours
Starting point is 01:44:29 that is hidden behind one door in the most complicated area of the game that you just have to just walk in and go like, Oh, well, oh, we're doing this now. Oh, it keeps going. Oh, it keeps going. Oh, it keeps going. Oh, it's still going more. Oh, there's another one underneath it. Is there any incantation that does the, um, the same thing as the
Starting point is 01:44:54 miracle that lets you see more, more messages? Uh, there is a incant, uh, incantation, a faith incantation in the game that requires 37 faith to cast and we'll show you more messages and 37 int. As well. Oh, whoa. Okay. Um, and there is also an item you can make that will do that as well. And the item is comparatively very cheap, but it's consumable.
Starting point is 01:45:32 Yeah. But I mean, you can, you make it out of one, I think, ruined shard. Okay. Like it's, it's cheap. Okay. Like you can make a ton of them. Cause I, yeah, that's another feeling is like, I, while I've never really, you know, felt the need to ever use any of those, um, when you're, when I'm getting
Starting point is 01:45:51 this type of shit coming at me, I, I feel like seeing more messages will help that overworlds. It's, it's, it's this, they, they finally nailed it of a game that must be communal. Must be communal because even streaming it with a chat, I would talk to people and get the equivalent of like, Oh, you didn't fight dark fucker of the round table. He drops the buster sword. Really?
Starting point is 01:46:20 What? Where the fuck were that? And then they would tell you an area you've never heard of. Yeah. Yeah. Huh. Okay. Um, there was an area I found as well that good game, good game.
Starting point is 01:46:36 Thumbs up, double two thumbs up. Good, good game. Glad, good, glad to hear it's good. Did you, I know this is again, multiplayer shit. So not likely, but there's a, it seems to be like a multiplayer arena location. Yeah. I don't know what's up with those.
Starting point is 01:46:50 Did you fuck with it? There's a couple of them. Yeah. There's a couple of them and they don't seem to fucking do anything. Stay closed. And, uh, the suspicion is that those are the DLC portals. I would imagine, right? Cause there's, if they're set, there's three of them.
Starting point is 01:47:05 Okay. And nothing's happening in them. No, okay. They all have the exact same architecture and you can't go in. And it's, it's, it's suspicious. Cause that definitely feels like a dedicated PVP thing would be, you know, set up over there or so. Um, which, you know,
Starting point is 01:47:26 PVP in this game is in the most fucking toxic state it's ever been. I could only imagine. I could only fucking imagine. There, there is, there is what I can only describe as the most busted exploit to ever exist legitimately in a from software game without any question. It is a, it is a weapon in which you equip, uh, you use a weapon art on it that enables, uh, death, blight damage on the weapon. So when you hit people, it builds up like the petrification meter and then
Starting point is 01:48:02 you use a, a spell called flame within, I want to say, where you light yourself on fire and your hitbox does damage and you roll at them because status effects being put out by damaging effects, proc on characters, even if the damage doesn't go through. So you roll at them and even if they roll away from you and their eye frames don't mean that they don't get hit a single time by any damage, the status still goes up and they just explode instant death within three seconds and there is absolutely no way to counter it.
Starting point is 01:48:44 Uh, okay. Well, I was going to say I'm playing the game without multiplayer, but I would enjoy trying out with some of those dedicated dueling stations. If they, if they became a thing, um, that'd be my preference. Maybe hold off a bit on that. Yeah. Hmm. They've all, there's also a spear that does the madness effect and the madness,
Starting point is 01:49:11 uh, debuff goes through, even if they don't hit you or if they hit you during the eye frames, uh, that's a bug. You can, you can take like, like boluses though, right? To like resists up against that shit and stuff. Uh, there's, there's my anti madness, you can take it. There is, but like, I'm talking, I'm talking like you're going to pop in like three swings explode. Well, ultimately what I would like is, um, to continue playing the game.
Starting point is 01:49:40 I am, which is like, you know, uh, uh, invasions and such optional, but then like have a room where kind of like the, you know, the covenants and, and, and for the previous games where it's like, you want to just do a PVP covenant. You fight in this arena. You have some duels. Yeah, that doesn't seem to actually be in the game. Yeah. It's weird because that would be my, my preferred way is like exactly as
Starting point is 01:49:58 much PVP as I'd like. And knowing that I have a non PVP optimized character as well, just going in and seeing, you know, like, eh, how, how, how, how could I do with this? Right? I've actually had a ton of fun, uh, invading people in this game. Uh, when you invade, you are going to 100% certainty invade either somebody who wants a duel or somebody who already has other people in their game to help them.
Starting point is 01:50:22 So when you invade, it is 99% of the time a two on one in, in their favor. Um, and that makes it really difficult, but when you win, it's so sweet, dude. When you, when you just blow up the fucking defender in like a second, and then you start chasing after the host and then they freak out and fall off a cliff. Yes, it's the best. And what's the, um, what's the invasion reward? Roon arcs.
Starting point is 01:50:54 Okay. So you, you don't know what that is because the game hasn't told you. I'm sure you've picked up a couple. Um, aren't they embers? Aren't they embers? They are embers. Yeah. And, uh, they, they give you the buff associated with whatever
Starting point is 01:51:09 great ruin you have equipped. So like Godrix is probably the best one cause it gives you plus five to every stat. I see. Okay. So you pop a rune arc and you see your health and your endurance and your Fp and your attack power just explode. Okay. So yeah, we have, I haven't seen any of that yet, but I have, but I did pick one.
Starting point is 01:51:29 I picked up a rune arc and it was, and I saw it as a described as like, yeah, it's just, it's an ember. So it was like, okay. Yeah. It's the same thing as always. You invade people, you get your embers, you get your humanity, whatever you want to call it sick. Very cool.
Starting point is 01:51:42 Uh, yeah, well, good game. I'll be, I'll be, you know, continuing and tomorrow we'll, we'll do the low down. I'll get everybody up to speed on, on what I've been doing. And I think you'll just see sessions where, yeah, like, um, we, we pop back in and another corner of the map has been, you know, pseudo scraped and, uh, then we can just hit the caves, hit whatever dungeons, you know, um, it's, and it's been fun doing that. I, I do enjoy this kind of unrestricted feeling.
Starting point is 01:52:13 Um, and the ability to, yeah, just, you know, excuse me constantly, just, you know, hit the save button and show off. Like, oh, here's some item. Uh, she's hiccups. Bah, stop it. Hmm. Anyway, like even going back through a bunch of grunts and it's like, oh, this one dropped, uh, this rare item this time.
Starting point is 01:52:35 Oh, cool. You know, like I got, um, the, uh, in limb grave, the guys with the big curved greatswords, um, I got one of them to drop theirs. And it was like, Hey, nice. That's actually, Oh, the dismounter, the dismounter. Yeah. And I was like, Oh, yeah, that's a good one.
Starting point is 01:52:49 I would like to actually play around with that, you know. Um, so it's, it's, it's nice to get some of these drops. Um, that's continuing for me, uh, Tuesdays and Thursdays, uh, on the stream. And then every day, of course, on the YouTube channel, we will be popping up. Uh, most episodes, one and a half to two hours long at this point. So good, good, good pace, good coverage. Before we get out of here, there's something else I need to talk about with my week. If that's quite all right.
Starting point is 01:53:25 Yeah. I saw turning red yesterday. I was going to watch turning red. Um, yeah, look, look, look, it was pretty good. I mean, it's, it's a real Pixar. It's here. So turning red is fucking great. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:42 Yeah. It's absolutely great. And me and Paige watched it last night and had a really fascinating experience because, uh, turning red is the new Disney Pixar movie where the girl turned into a red panda when she gets dressed out. Uh, and very interesting experience because, uh, it takes place in, uh, adjacent to Toronto's Chinatown in 2002, a time period in which, uh, the characters in middle school, uh, at the time I would have been in high school, but
Starting point is 01:54:21 Quebec high schools are seven or 11. So these are people who would have been in my high school during the time that I was there. Yeah. About two to three years later, we'd be driving down to Love Getty Arcade to play Street Fighter four. Yeah, exactly. Um, and it is aggressively Canadian and aggressively Torontonian and like
Starting point is 01:54:41 if my timing is right, I think Scott Pilgrim is literally occurring simultaneous to it a couple streets over beautiful. Honest ads of the big Eileen all set up. Hell yeah. Like it's, it's really like a, like half, half a block over from Scott Pilgrim. Nice. Um, the, the Canadian representation on it is so overt and intense that there are scenes that only I fully understood and I had to pause and explain to Paige.
Starting point is 01:55:15 The number one of which is during a scene in which kids are going, I'll give you my money, I'll give you my money. The money is blurred in focus, but the bills are bright blue with no numbers visible. And so Paige couldn't tell how much money was on the screen, but I'm like, no, they're all holding two fives. That's their lunch money. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:39 Right. Lose a five greens at 20 down to like the streets having those awful automatic parking machines in the background. Okay. Okay. Like just, just like intense and it is about, uh, this is a very minor spoiler for the first 20 minutes of the movie of a movie called Turning Red. The movie is a partial metaphor for your period.
Starting point is 01:56:07 Oh, okay. Cause it's about a 13 year old girl growing up and turning red. Oh, okay. And going through bodily changes that make her embarrassed and get angry for no reason and upset for, etc. I was wondering, I was like, I'm sure there's, when I saw that title, I'm like, I'm sure there's a dublon tendre of some way in this title, but I don't know what it is yet.
Starting point is 01:56:34 Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Uh, it's about getting your period, which I was looking at the trailer and I like it, it's zapped in my brain and like, I kind of feel like I want to watch this because I don't think I've ever even heard of a story tackling this at all, let alone a Disney story, let alone a Disney story in which maxi pads are in frame on camera being talked about like legitimately dumb founded.
Starting point is 01:57:03 It feels like I'm watching I love Lucy and she looks over desi and be like, you want to go fuck desi? Yeah. Like, no, all I'm thinking of is that best back then is the commercials with the, Hey, look, it's got the blue wing tips and we're going to pour, pour the fluid on it and look how absorbent of the blue fluid. And it's like, is that a percent ladies? Is that what happens?
Starting point is 01:57:26 You got blue fluid and absorb. Yeah. Well, yeah. It's it's it's nice and nice and safe for TV. But yeah, no, it is like as somebody who did not have menstruation going through that period or does not now. I did go through puberty and it was fucking rough and it sucks shit. And this is the most dead on accurate portrayal of just how fucking awful
Starting point is 01:58:02 and cringe it is to be a young person like going through your bullshit. And I specifically mean the term cringe. There is a very significant part of the movie's opening runtime dedicated to just how fucking cringe it is to be like 12 to 15. How everything you do is the most embarrassing thing in the world. All the way down to a fucking extended weirdo fan fiction sequence. Hell yeah. Okay, which has had a great reaction online.
Starting point is 01:58:47 I've seen people going, I can't believe this movie. Girls aren't like, no, shut up. Every girl I knew in my whole life wrote stupid weirdo shit every single high school every single fucking one one hundred percent just not even a nine on 10 what not even in it not even on most of not even literally literally. I'm saying this. I'm saying literally one hundred percent every single one of them. I will not hear otherwise.
Starting point is 01:59:17 I'm sorry. It's been confirmed. What if Legolas was a fish and then we kissed in the ocean? Yes, like 100% absolutely. Okay. Then the rest of us it's like what like that is the era of the deepest cringe. Girls are writing stories. Boys are pretending to act out cringe stories that they found girls are
Starting point is 01:59:45 writing Kingdom Hearts parking lot boys are in Kingdom Hearts parking lot. Yeah, it is the idea that you are not the most fucking embarrassing thing to ever exist at that age is so absurd. Like even I remember talking to some friends and like having it was it was me and some of my my super nerdy friends and we're all we're all conversing and punch mom was meeting them and punch mom in her again extraordinarily normy self even then it was like, okay, the topic of like fat fiction and slash stuff comes up and I'm like, yeah, okay, what was it?
Starting point is 02:00:23 What was it? Was it just like, I mean, it could have been like kind of kind of normal or could have been like the weird shit. Stop making noises. What was it? Harry Potter and I'm like everybody. Of course, everybody everybody can't escape. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:40 No, there's the you can you can chart it by year. Yeah. But you know, it's funny because there's a lot of things that like outside of the titular turning red in this particular case period situation like there's so many that you go down the list because if you're not dealing with that, you might be dealing with like severe horrible white kid acne. Yeah, right. Or in this particular case, your secondary theme is overbearing parents.
Starting point is 02:01:09 Well, they're okay. There's that. Like specifically, this would be first generation immigrant overbearing parents with the expectations and something that I personally know nothing about, but have seen over and over and over from my friends that had those parents in high school and university. And you know, and just so that everyone knows it's like outs and then that's besides your crazy explosive pizza face, white kid acne, black kids,
Starting point is 02:01:38 you've got your massive ashy ass face bumps that come in and there's nothing you can do about them. And for those that get them, you just pray it's just it's just like sorry, man, like I'm it sucks that it happened to you, you know, we have some friends that got it worse than others, but the fucking just you get that that terrible hair growing back in the wrong places and it's coming under the bump and it's not quite acne. It's it's the hair thing and it's ashen out and you kind of just look like
Starting point is 02:02:13 you need to moisturize your face every hour of the day. It's horrifying. You know, my favorite version of this is and I was talking at Page didn't know about this. I was talking to her about a couple of weeks ago, unrelated. The lie about hair that men are told and women are not told because the purpose of the lie is different. I was told early and I'm sure maybe you were also that, you know, if you
Starting point is 02:02:46 shave your if you shave your face, you shave your hair, it'll grow back thicker and darker. Oh, yeah. And the reason why you're told that is so that you shave that pathetic bullshit you're trying to get going off your face. That fucking bullshit you have on your face at 14 because you're like, I'm a man. I can grow it and your your dad is like, you look like a fucking asshole.
Starting point is 02:03:21 God damn it. It's going to take years to come in like like because as you get older, you're like, I was only able to get this when I was like 18, right? Yep. But I started to grow a version of it when I was like 12. And the version that I grew was the fucking most scum shit child must ask you ever saw does not grow back faster. It grows back more course.
Starting point is 02:03:47 That's what happens. The texture changes. Yeah. And I noticed that as someone who for a while, I wanted to focus on specifically the chin strap and it never got any longer. It never got any lower. So then I just want to like, all right, I'm changing. I'm shaving everything but the chin strap.
Starting point is 02:04:05 And when they all grow back together, you think it would have been like going the opposite now direction with giant mutton chops, but it hasn't. This is the length of my hair. It refuses to go any further and everything else was a lie, but the texture feeling is what is what you can differentiate between the two, you know. So yeah, also for turning red, it's funny. It's incredibly well animated. It's a really beautiful movie.
Starting point is 02:04:32 Like the colors are, uh, I was, we were looking at stuff on Twitter earlier. It's like, oh, it's, it's the Sailor Moon palette. It's lots of pastels, greens and blues and pinks. It looks really nice. I believe the same director is bow, right? I don't know. Okay. But what I can say is that it's been a while since I saw a film that was so
Starting point is 02:04:54 overtly about whoever wrote it. Um, there, there are, there is a, there is a sequence in which a character gets embarrassed by their mom that might be the most dead on. This is a real story that obviously actually happened. I have ever seen a story and I'm like, I'm like near wretching with second hand embarrassment. And it's like, fuck. Did you fuck?
Starting point is 02:05:28 Do you remember? I was going to say, uh, bow was the, um, the short film, um, about the, the grandma who made the little bun kid. And, uh, it was, it was one of the shorts. Oh, right. Yeah. I completely forgot about that. I forgot what it played before.
Starting point is 02:05:44 It played before some movie. Um, but yeah. So it was that, that, that same, uh, I don't know. I don't know the name. Okay. Before Incredibles two, there was that and, um, that kind of established like, yeah, they, they know how to tackle the subject matter here. It feels, feels like they're on point because that was a really great short.
Starting point is 02:06:03 Yeah. Uh, uh, the joke about people calling it my neighbor, Toronto is pretty dead on. Nice. Um, and also this is, this is going to sound a little odd for me to point out, but it really felt with the whole like, I was, I was explaining this to Page because when I go to the U S. I feel like I am in a fake location. I'm at every time I've ever been in the U S.
Starting point is 02:06:32 I feel very strongly dissociated because TV stories are not real and in TV stories, they use American money and they work in cities that look like America. So when I go to America, I feel like I'm on a TV set and it feels totally unreal. Um, this is one of the first things I've seen in a long time. Scott Pilgrim was one of the other ones in which is, wow, I've been to here. This is a real place. This feels like a version of the school that I went to. Like it's Lester B.
Starting point is 02:07:04 Pearson middle school. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How many fucking Lester B. Pearson fucking schools there are. I hear that. So I hear that about shows specifically stuff in New York that takes place and is
Starting point is 02:07:15 filmed in New York where it's very, and they go to iconic places and locations. I hear that as a little bonus thing of people who are from there are like, yeah, it's cool to see the places and they recognize those corners and those streets and it's a level of it that we just don't see or appreciate or care about, you know, but like, um, like Sex in the City, for example, is like aggressively using recognizable New York locations, which if you happen to live there, it'll make an extra impact on you, you know, but I'm just used to like things existing in a world that I don't know, you know.
Starting point is 02:07:48 So there's a second part to this, which like, I'm sure the hypersynical is going to criticize the movie for being woke and diversity, whatever. But it takes place adjacent to Chinatown, Toronto. So most of the main cast are going to be Chinese Canadians who live in Chinatown. Yo, is P-Mall, is P-Mall there? I don't think P-Mall is. Damn. Okay.
Starting point is 02:08:17 Your side cast, however, includes like, I don't know how to describe the emotion here, an actual good cross-section of what it looks like to live in Toronto in which it's the first time in anything animated, I've seen an observant seek ever. Okay. Or a Muslim lady wearing a hijab ever. Or a obviously Jewish girl who is not wearing something on her person that will denote to the viewer that she's a Jewish girl.
Starting point is 02:08:58 Right. Okay. And right. Well, and to, if someone is not aware, they might think that sounds like a Benetton ad, but if you've gone to school here, right, you'll look at any given classroom and realize, well, you go to Toronto, Toronto has a lot of Chinese folks. It has a lot of observancy because it has a lot of Jewish folks, like, etc. And it, the weird thing is, is that it was weird to see this because I realized
Starting point is 02:09:28 it was the first time in a while, I'm watching a movie that takes place in these locations in which the people I'm looking at were not weird. Where like, I'll watch something and you'll watch like the cast of Law and Order and Law and Order takes place in fucking New York. But despite that, like 98% of the cast of Law and Order is a bunch of white guys. And then there's like the, there's, then you have the detective that's black for this season and maybe there's the detective that's Hispanic for this season.
Starting point is 02:09:58 It also isn't, isn't every criminal on Law and Order also white? No. No. Okay. I don't watch it, but I've heard over the years that there's been a thing about there's, there's a lot. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 02:10:13 Uh, and it's, it's like, oh, like, oh, this looks like Toronto. Like this actually looks like Toronto like visibly and it ends up being weird because it's not, because it actually looks normal. I don't know how to describe it. Yeah. No, it's what, it's what we went to school with. What we, what we, like it's, it's the soup. It's the super silly thing to be like, like, like the security guard of the
Starting point is 02:10:37 school is a Sikh guy, right? Mm hmm. And it's like, yeah, of course. There's a, I used to live in a neighborhood that was like next to a Sikh temple and those guys are around with the, the, the, I don't know what it's called. I feel bad now, but the, their hair is up in the, in the, in the hat. And like, yeah, those guys are, they're cool and they're all over.
Starting point is 02:10:59 Why haven't I ever seen one animated in my life? That's weird. Oh, it's cause it would only count if it was in Toronto or Montreal or a couple other places. Yeah. Um, I think, uh, also, why couldn't I remember the word turbine? That's so weird. Maybe it was Trudeau in disguise.
Starting point is 02:11:24 No, maybe the prime minister is not, is not on camera. I'm, I don't, you know, I'm not sure if like, cause there's some that that would really fuck it up. Cause there's some that are like the, like more certain turbine shaped, like that is kind of like more like Jagmeet. And then there's the ones that are more like, um, like a wrap that is differently shaped, but I'm not sure if they have different names or not. Um, I'm specifically, I'm thinking, and I'm thinking back to the kid that
Starting point is 02:11:52 was in my school that, that, you know, we grew up with that was, uh, that had like a kind of a different shape to that and tune. Remember just also like being like, yo, wait. So like there's like a hidden blade on you at all times. It's like, yeah, I know it's a thing. It's like, oh shit. Oh dude, I remember that case. There was a fucking court case about that in the stupid fucking
Starting point is 02:12:13 province where the kid had the little dagger, like, like a fucking, what is it, like three inch little tiny knife around his neck as a religious thing and they wanted to take it away from him. And the court's decision is like, they were like, oh, it's a knife in a school and they're like, well, no one's literally ever been stabbed with these in the history of the nation. It's been a thing for a while now. How about we chill on that until something actually literally
Starting point is 02:12:42 happens once ever? And that was 10 years ago and there's still nothing because of course there isn't. Yeah. Yeah. No, there's a weird, anyway, there's a whole weirdness to the, uh, aggressiveness of like, cause I mean, you know, French and French history is just like, fuck you church.
Starting point is 02:12:59 And I'm like, fuck you church as well. But also chill. There's such a thing as going too far. Um, but yeah, what you're describing, that's interesting cause I want to see that and I specifically want to see the Canadian flavor version of it because it is, it is, it is a unique version of what we grew up with up here. Um, it's also, it's also kind of cute cause like the neighborhood
Starting point is 02:13:21 that they're in, there's like vintage shop or old, old buddy's coffee. And I'm like, man, this is 2002 as hell. Cause that shit's all gone. That's dead. That's long bitch. All that shit is dead. I'm like, oh, this is the Toronto I visited when I was a young man or in my teens that I was like, cool Toronto.
Starting point is 02:13:45 And then, uh, fucking. Yeah. No, once you leave the core and the co, and the little areas where you got the trolley cars and shit, then you've got basically highway life, you know, hope you're, hope you're down for, uh, uh, your existence being wrapped around highways. But, uh, cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:14:06 I, I'm, I'm going to go check that out. Cause turning red's great. You should check it out. I basically was like, we were deciding between like that. Um, and, uh, possibly seeing Batman cause I hear Batman's good. Um, I, that, that was the discussion last night. Page was like, do you want to watch Batman? Do you want to watch turning red?
Starting point is 02:14:26 And I'm like, let's see which one wants me to go expose myself to COVID. And, um, it'll be, it'll be. Turns out it was Batman. It was Batman. So we watched turning red instead. Yeah. Uh, although it does seem it'll like it'll be, um, uh, at home after a month or 45 days or something like that.
Starting point is 02:14:45 But anyway, people are saying good things about it. Uh, there's all shit I wanted to catch up on too, as well, that I, that I never want to go around to like actually watching the new suicide squad, for example, uh, which I wanted to check out. But no, what I did watch instead was, uh, the Tindler swindler. Oh yeah. Did you hear about that? I heard it.
Starting point is 02:15:05 I heard, I heard about the guy and, and or the trend. Okay. And then, and then I heard about the, the film and then I heard about the actual moron going to social media and going, that's about me. Did you see it? No. Okay. Uh, yeah, sure.
Starting point is 02:15:30 If you want to participate in just the current, um, just goofy ass next flip Netflix tale of like time to watch a character, right? The, the, the, that's one of these cultural moments. Sorry. Joe Exotic's gone. Who's the next character? Um, it is, it is the 10th. What fucking freak will let us record 18 hours of footage of them?
Starting point is 02:15:55 Well, not the freak, but the victims of the freak, the victims of said freak. Exactly. And you get basically just get to see, uh, a professional con and how they set up, um, this whole thing that, you know, more or less uses twin twindler, uses twin twindler to, uh, rope in people and then create a perfect, um, romance movie, uh, situation where high intensity, uh, feelings very, very quickly escalations of, you know, of, of affection and all that. And then massive catastrophic disasters.
Starting point is 02:16:34 And oh my God, lives are on the line. There's blood. There's, there's cars at nighttime. There are secrets. There are enemies. We have to get out, we have to get through this together, but first you have to send me your credit card. I gotta say, I really gotta say when I heard about the Tinder swindler, I was
Starting point is 02:16:56 totally baffled as the honeypot has been a con for literally the entire history of society upon the invention of money. Correct. A guy or a gal who knows they got the looks and they got the charm. Mixed up a bunch of shit. Yep. But the money or the cows or the house or the labor or whatever the fuck is valuable in the situation.
Starting point is 02:17:31 Yep. Now, the only thing that makes this tale, uh, noteworthy and I guess worth filming as well, besides the fact that the story is not over is the level of dedication and insane quadruple life living. One has to do meant to mentally juggle the efforts to scam some people and like you kind of just stare at it as like a case of like, you're like even for someone who is let's say, let's say you're like, you know, you're clearly a sociopath, you don't have anyone's emotions registering anything in your
Starting point is 02:18:11 brain, you just see what you need to do here to get what you want out of the situation. All right. Even for that person who has become very good at doing this thing. It's so much work. Like it's the lies take so much effort, like an exhausting amount, you know, like never mind the fucking ethical shit. It's a living man.
Starting point is 02:18:33 Yeah, it's a living and you're like the length that you go to to have like just like a brief period of high times followed by the horrible darkness and then more high times and it's just exhausting and it's like, yeah, watch it to see just this wild case of a professional identity theft hustler working through a group of girls that were to be perfectly honest, also looking to find a prince to marry, you know, and we're basically looking at the profile of someone who was more or less promising to be a multi-millionaire that'll take them on cruises around the world and get them
Starting point is 02:19:17 sugared up and they were looking for that. Oh, yeah. But in the quest to get sugared up, they got they got D sugared. Salty. They got salty. Yes. So it's it's it's it's let it let it be known a successful con person.
Starting point is 02:19:36 Never let me say that con people don't work hard. They work hard. They put in a real day's work put in the work. It's fucking evil and dastardly. Oh, yeah. But you got to work real hard to scam some people and the thing that you kind of just have to wonder that's like throughout the as you're watching this that it's in the back of your mind at the whole time is like as everything
Starting point is 02:19:59 escalates and when you see things go his way and sometimes they don't go his way and when they don't go this person's way and you're like, okay, you've put in a lot of work and a lot of time and you've clearly dedicated your entire life to this con right when things don't go your way and you are in fact the sociopath that we know you have to be like what happens when the mouse gets cornered like are we able to watch this Netflix story because we know for a fact that okay, he's not going to start stabbing anybody, you know, like because like the swindling being the crime is the kind of brain that like can also go
Starting point is 02:20:43 other places when pushed to darkness, you know, but you don't know until it gets there. To answer your question, somebody with like full blown sociopathy or psychopathy depending what the DSM six calls it now or as a DM 75 or full blown intense ass lifestyle size narcissistic personality disorder. The answer to your question as to whether or not they are capable of throwing around the stabbing if they're willing to do all this stuff. The real question is would stabbing make the situation easier or harder? Yeah, is there an easy way out of most most people who are high functioning
Starting point is 02:21:30 narcissistics or sociopaths who are running scams and and rackets and what not are going to realize that adding a potential murder conviction to themselves down the road is probably not within their best interest. It's probably easier to just disappear possibly, but you never know is what I'm saying like you never know where the the rest of the the the chips that don't the pieces that don't click in, you know, with the person you're like, yeah, but while that might be the case, what if this person happens to also have just that flavor of lack of empathy plus the narcissism where their identity
Starting point is 02:22:17 where the consequences not being thought of because the offense to their ego is so shattered at that point that something must be done. Sure, but what I'm saying is like, let's say I want you to get I want you we're talking and I'm like, man, I wish Willie would just shut up. Right now, if you have no moral compass or empathy for another human being at all, you have a lot of options on the table of the problem of I would like Willie to stop talking. There runs the gamut of me screaming at the top of my lungs.
Starting point is 02:22:52 Shut your fucking mouth. There's me stabbing you in the face. There's me walking away. There's me play peacefully. Oh, man. Hey, could you please be quiet? I got a headache and making up a lie about it. Right.
Starting point is 02:23:07 There's all sorts of things for somebody who does have the intelligence to run successful scams. I would usually make the assumption that cutting or shooting is not on the first tier of responses, not because they're evil. The evil unlocks the choice. It does. But would this even be the best? Now, if you're dealing with pride, OK, maybe maybe that's something else.
Starting point is 02:23:39 And then we're talking more about narcissistic personality disorder. The likelihood we like it's definitely understandable that like the likelihood remains low as long as the person who's executing this this type of behavior is able to assess that this will make their life worse. This will this will come back and make things more difficult. Therefore, it's not a preferable solution. That that is what's happening in most cases. It's just that when you see like the other lengths and things about the person
Starting point is 02:24:07 in this case, you go, I don't know for sure that he's the kind of person that will make that call. You know, I mean, Willie, you never know anybody for sure. So that question is somebody who is somebody who is otherwise chill could fucking step on a Lego and be like, God damn it. And just in a fit of rage punch a random child on the street. Precisely. You never know.
Starting point is 02:24:31 And so there and so there are moments in this where it feels like, OK, if this person is if this person is that the kind that is like going to say, fuck the obvious fact that I'm about to make my life harder. I just need to like do this right now because I'm like my foresight is currently garbage. There are situations where that test comes into play where you go like, oh, shit, how's this going to go? So yeah, anyway, it was it was.
Starting point is 02:25:01 So what what we're talking about, by the way, is the distinction that is usually made between successful people with these these disorders or unsuccessful people with these disorders, right? It's the dividing line. So if you have no human empathy at all and you can just look at situations amorally, you'd be a great businessman. Oh, yeah, you can. You can get your key right your way to the top and and you would know all sorts
Starting point is 02:25:33 of things and you would have no problem doing all sorts of dirt ass shit to get the way to the top and you would probably make a bunch of money. However, if you also don't have these moral compulsions and can't consider the future court consequences of your actions, you get somebody like, oh, I don't know, my brother who will just steal someone's dog because they can't pay them twenty dollars this week and then tell a story at breakfast like he's baffled the guy broke into his house and took his dog back. Right.
Starting point is 02:26:13 And never has any money and no one ever helps him or trust him. The brain is a scumbag because he just can't see the future consequences of these actions. Right. See a smart sociopath would go, you know, just telling that this guy too bad until you pay me, I'm keeping your dog might result in this kind of thing because that would be a smart thing. Yeah, but you have to learn smart thing.
Starting point is 02:26:35 You have to learn the enemy skill that teaches you how to like put the flesh of a person on and pretend to be them, you know. But if you never quite get those, then you are just stuck with whatever you learn in the backyard and that's your problem solving toolkit. No, you only you only learn to you only learn to put the flesh of the person on when you're talking to girls. I suppose. But at some point to CEO up, that's where the focus goes for some people.
Starting point is 02:27:02 Yeah. When you when you when you see you up, you know, and you and you just become that that person, though, or you're like, I'm just going to pretend to be a human being, like that's how this works. And you're going to be ruthlessly good at it as whatever. You know, you know who seems like an all right person just from a distance who seems like an OK guy, I guess, Phil Spencer, for an example, right? He seems fine.
Starting point is 02:27:28 He seems like a nice enough guy, I guess. But he still is putting off this aura of like, I put on this shirt that has an indie game on it so that I can show people that I like indie games. And the way he talks sometimes is like, hey, fellow humans, would you like an Xbox? Yeah. Well, that's the thing is, is you'd need to hear these people on something like podcast length discussion.
Starting point is 02:27:57 Yeah. To find out if they passed the replicate test. You know who I want to, you know, whose podcast I want to listen to real bad. I want to hear the zucker cast. Yeah, he just that fucking he just that fucking space alien. He just did one with Lex Friedman. You can go listen to him. Oh, he did.
Starting point is 02:28:17 He literally did a podcast. I didn't listen to it, but I know that it opens with him being handed a piece of paper saying, can you please highlight all the cones to prove you're not a robot on it, which he done does. But yeah, he probably cheated. You can you can go you can go listen to that to find out because I'm super curious. I would love to hear like him explain in his own words why the Hawaiians
Starting point is 02:28:45 are assholes for not letting him buy up like half of that island and why really he deserves it. No, for real, though. And what the fuck is going on with that surfing picture? That's just white people, man. The sun, the sun's not kind to us. The answer is satisfactory, but I know we can go deeper. Um, anyways, didn't take it.
Starting point is 02:29:10 He didn't make any effort to blend it like you're supposed to. He doesn't give a shit. He doesn't have time for that. Well, in any case, um, yeah, a couple other things, though, of this week. So elderings continuing FF six is continuing over on woolly versus the Kirby video dropped. Um, and I have to say that, um, I continue to, uh, be all fucked up about the term dump stat, uh, which I'm going to forever blame you for
Starting point is 02:29:40 for teaching me wrong because when you introduced me to the word dump stat, it was the concept of dumping all your points into that stat to which everyone has since now, uh, often corrected me to say, no, it is the stat that you ignore the most coming from tabletop and D and D, but it's tied itself in because of that first Dark Souls. Yeah. No, I independently invented that term for my own purposes only to immediately find out it was an existing term that meant the opposite
Starting point is 02:30:09 of what I was using to say. And you've ruined me now saying that thinking there was a thing. Yes. Just change your mind. So this is the problem. This is the problem with learning this way trained wrong as a joke. Um, well, in any case, uh, uh, Poyo is a dump stat was the name of the episode, but whatever.
Starting point is 02:30:32 That's good. You can, you can go check that out. Um, all their things. I played Mad Streets this week and that shit is how the fuck is that hilariously? Okay. So take that up. Okay. Mad Streets.
Starting point is 02:30:46 So take, um, like a rival school style, uh, college fighter setting, right? Bunch of students and their student fighters. But then instead of making a full on fighting game set up, set up, make it like kind of deaf jammy and how it, and how it's going to play. But then just go full gang beast juice all over. Oh yeah. Oh, I'm seeing it. Right.
Starting point is 02:31:10 So you take deaf jam game style movement and gameplay. You make them fighting students, but it's all gang beasts underneath it. And you have high school students in this or like college students in this battle high school and nobody knows how to fight. They all suck their garbage. This looks like a fucking mess. Holy shit. They're doing stupid quap style balancing dodges and slaps and grabs and punches.
Starting point is 02:31:38 And it's just like, yeah, it's, it's developed gang beasts. It's super goofy and it's a lot of fun. Um, that is cool. Going to be coming soon. It's a whole lot of just like flailing drop kicks that sends you flying 50 feet in the air. They look like fucking assholes. It's crazy.
Starting point is 02:31:57 And then you burst through a fence and then you pick up a bowling ball and throw it and everyone just crumples onto each other. Because again, it's what if your, you know, streets of rage or like beat them up style characters, your kung fu high, your battle high, your rival schools, all of that, but nobody actually knows how to fight. No one knows shit. We just slapped and fucking and, and pose. Um, so that thing's about to come out on, on steam soon.
Starting point is 02:32:25 And, uh, yeah, we took a quick look at it and it was, yeah, it was just goofy physics based fun and, um, had some fun modes and it's got like a horde mode where you can co-op versus CPUs and you can do duals obviously, you know, and it's, and it's like in gang beasts fashion as well, like fighting game, but you can add like it's, it's primarily going for, uh, like a four player kind of party mode vibe to it. So, uh, yeah, go, go, go, go check that out. Once it drops, I think in a couple weeks, maybe one or two.
Starting point is 02:32:59 Good name to mad streets. Um, yeah. And then, you know, played a bit more KOF 15 and, uh, that was pretty much it. Uh, so in any case, if you would like to tune in, uh, to woolly versus, uh, coming up this week, we're going to continue on with the Elden ring FF six sandwich and, um, we got, I got to, uh, to Zozo and boy, I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready. I didn't know what to expect.
Starting point is 02:33:34 That was great. That was some shit. Fucking Zozo, man. Uh, good times though. Good times. Uh, tune in for that. And then, um, yeah, we're also going to have, uh, get into fighting games. I'm probably going to go check out what's happening with, um, so guilty gear
Starting point is 02:33:54 strive just had a new mod released and it's just sin. The kike, uh, the sin. Yeah. It's just fully functioning sin. Like unbelievable. Does he do that weird thing where it has to replace a character to put him in or no, like slapped right on, slapped on brand new slot. That's great.
Starting point is 02:34:14 And works online for now with other people who have it. What incredible. That's nuts. Um, unbelievable levels. Like, and, um, the modder, uh, she's also got a setup where new characters can be added that don't have to replace existing ones. Um, that's nuts. No, it is.
Starting point is 02:34:39 It is impeccable. Uh, shout outs to Rin. AKA Wistful Hopes. Um, she's, uh, just released sin. And it's like, yeah, this is on official DLC. So not just Marvel three modding scene popping off, but like, uh, strive as well with brand new characters that sit next to all the fighting games anymore. We got our own fighting games.
Starting point is 02:35:01 Well, we, we need the bare bones and then we'll give us the ingredients and we'll take it from here. Uh, so yeah, I'm going to take a look at that. Um, and might pop in pop pop in some, some classic Capcom, uh, just to go back in the day. So look forward to that. And I also just wanted to quickly announce, I'm going to get more details soon, but, um, on Sunday, the 27th, um, I'm going to be doing a charity stream with
Starting point is 02:35:33 Reggie for, um, uh, a foundation called, uh, Gamers For Giving. Basically their whole thing is they create, uh, portable setups to bring to children's hospitals and they let the kids play with the setups at the hospitals and that's just awesome because. Are you going to go, uh, with them and, uh, play some sets with those kids and teach them to stay in the hospital? Teach them their fundamentals. If you leave, if you leave this place, there are killers out there.
Starting point is 02:36:06 There are killers out there. So you better get strong in here. Become the hospital king before you leave. Yeah. Create a little, a little FGC down there and that'd be fun. Well, but, uh, no, that's basically the deal is they're going to be, they make setups and, and they, and they, they bring them around to the kids that, that, uh, you know, we'll need to get access to games.
Starting point is 02:36:25 So, uh, we're going to be doing that on Sunday, the 27th, uh, more details to follow. Uh, all right. And, uh, if you want to check out my bullshit, you go down to twitch.tv slash Pat stairs at this week. I'm doing stranger of paradise and, uh, triangle strategy. I'm glad I finished Elden Ring just to start playing another souls like immediately afterwards.
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Starting point is 02:41:37 In this case, it was, it was like a special Italian slice of meat. It wasn't like regular pepperoni is like a special, I said pepperoni, but it's some fancier name for whatever the kind of cut of meat was. But yes, it was a really good slice. I couldn't believe it. And I was like, damn, honey, you're doing good. I didn't, I didn't know. I didn't know you could put honey on pizza.
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Starting point is 02:47:19 I fucking hate that shit. Everybody who eats that shit is an asshole. Pepperoni is fucking food poison. And if you eat it, you're fucking psycho. Every kid that fucking went, I want pepperoni pizza and every fucking sleepover and every fucking kids house. And you can only get fucking pepperoni every single fucking time. And it always had to be pepperoni because the kids like pepperoni. You fucking ruined your fucking birthday party for anybody didn't like pepperoni.
Starting point is 02:47:44 You're an asshole. So I never had pepperoni pizza for the longest while because it was pork and that was no good. So all pizza I consumed for the first half of my life was other flavors, chicken, beef, whatever else we could get. But the default pepperoni slice that was on everything shown everywhere as the go to Ryu flavor when I eventually did get it. I was immensely underwhelmed. I was like, that's it. It's just a really salty slice. I was very.
Starting point is 02:48:12 I can't wait to just drink a fucking thimble of oil with every bite because of this fucking shit meat. I was I was quite disappointed that it didn't hold up to the other betting tasting better tasting. Hell, even something as similar as like a bacon pizza, bacon as a topping on pizza tastes better. Like it kind of I was shocked that it's the default pepperoni. Pepperoni is just like the shittiest slice of salami you've ever eaten. Yeah. It's the Ryu of meat. It's the Ryu of meat.
Starting point is 02:48:43 I'm going to say I've had my eyes open to the power of Italian sausage and that is. Yeah. Why do you think I hate pizza? Because fucking 80% of the pizza I had to eat in my life had pepperoni on it. You'd hate pizza too. Yeah. So it's pretty good. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:49:02 And also the if you're getting the chicken ones and you do it with the like the chick white chicken with the carbonara, kind of like the white sauce pizza, those ones are pretty tasty too. Anyway. I blame the Ninja Turtles. I also blame them. Well, now you can for a lot more. But, you know, you can blame them one by one in depth over the course of the entire collection, which has just been announced.
Starting point is 02:49:32 State of play dropped and a whole lot of news came out of that. Oh God. So much of so much of that state of play left me with my trademark Pat stairs at intensely confused face. Just deep, deep confusion. I had a mixture of stuff that was like most of it was, oh, that's looks cool. I guess. And that was kind of the gamut really.
Starting point is 02:50:03 Yeah. So starting with Ninja Turtles. Konami's putting out the complete Cowabunga collection, which is just about, if not every game, almost every game. It's like, at least what is it, 13 or 16 games here? It's crazy. I think it's got both versions of tournament fighters. Absolutely.
Starting point is 02:50:27 So TMNT arcade Turtles in Time, Ness TMNT, Ness TMNT 2, Ness TMNT 3, Manhattan Project, Tournament Fighters Ness, Tournament Fighters Genesis, Tournament Fighters Super Nintendo. So all three versions of Tournament Fighters. Then Turtles in Time, Hyper Stone Heist, Follow the Foot Clan, the Game Boy game. Back from the sewers, the Game Boy game, and Radical Rescue, the Game Boy game. So just about all of them, really, from that era. Which, hey, shout outs for being thorough, because while everybody knows the Super Nintendo version of Tournament Fighters is the legit go-to best one, there were others that had
Starting point is 02:51:13 different characters. And if you wanted to just do a novelty check to see like, oh, what was Casey Jones like? You could go play the Genesis version. Which is the really fucked up version? It's the Genesis version? Genesis version is pretty fucked up. The Ness version is also pretty fucked up. Basically, the Super Nintendo is the only one really resembling like a legit fighter
Starting point is 02:51:34 you can fucking have fun with. Karai and Rat King Madness. Yeah, so that's all coming out together. I mean, shit, man. Everyone will take this over a instantly- Bad version of Turtles. God. Two weeks, maybe?
Starting point is 02:51:59 No, it was more than that. But that thing released and just got pulled off of the 360 arcade shop. Fucking, like, it's a record breaker. That and Sparkster are up there for like the shortest release window ever. Because it was embarrassing. Yeah, it was quite embarrassing. And the fact that you could have the old game running in the background was just like, okay, well then, just play the old game.
Starting point is 02:52:25 But anyway, this was released, announced at State of Play. That's cool. To me, it's just about tournament fighters. That's it. Yeah. I just want a good reason to fucking get to play that. I'd like to play Turtles. I like a good version of Turtles in Time again.
Starting point is 02:52:40 That'd be nice. And then a couple other things were dropped, including a new teaser for Strangers of Paradise, which I have to ask questions. I have to ask questions. Ask your questions. Because have you started or touched it besides the demo? Nah. Okay.
Starting point is 02:53:03 Nah. Oh, wait, I touched the demo. I touched the demo for a little bit. Have you been following the journey that Jack Garland has taken in the heart of the internet? Oh, yeah. Oh, he sees the internet's id. It has become immensely confusing because like it feels, and I might be wrong because I don't know and I haven't seen or played, but it feels as if it's gone from, who is this dumb edge boy?
Starting point is 02:53:35 I can't believe he won't shut up about chaos. This is the worst. Into, oh my God, it's going all the way back around. He's the best. He literally can't stop talking about chaos and him and his bros need to kill chaos and I'm going to kill chaos with them. And we're all bros together. I love him. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:53:55 And it may or may not have something to do with the fact that he interrupts a dark elf in the middle of a soliloquy. No, that's not why. Okay. Is it because the combat is actually fun? Nope. Okay. What you're not understanding, Willie, is that the two emotions that you have identified as being separate are in fact actually the same emotion. I know.
Starting point is 02:54:21 I know they are the same emotion. I can tell that. But when it was revealed, people were like, what the fuck is Square doing? Was the end of the sentence? Yeah. And no. So, right? But then the more that you saw of it, the more that it was just more of that.
Starting point is 02:54:42 And that that was the whole bit. Like, because the way that it looked like is that that was a badly produced trailer version of like, of like a real video game. But no, we've discovered that it's actually a completely fake video game. And then it's just like that the whole time. And then we see the interview where the director is like, so we saw everybody laughing at the chaos stuff and we didn't like that. That was very difficult. That's not what we were hoping for it to be received as. And it's like, so you designed the edge lord to end all edge lords.
Starting point is 02:55:20 Like, with seriousness. And in the form of taking Garland and showing his origin story. And this was unintended. Yeah, dude, there's a shot of him at his wedding checking his cell phone. Like telling his bride like, shut up. I need to check my phone for crystal messages or something. But this is what's so confusing is like, they're doing this edge thing and it's not the, oh, we know when we're leaning into it. It's sincere because the director absolutely doesn't understand why people are laughing at the chaos bit.
Starting point is 02:55:56 What the fuck is happening? It's so like, I don't know if you've touched the game. No, they put out a trailer. And I think the trailer carries over to the real game. Sorry, not the trail of the demo. It's one of those. Um, yo, that game looks terrible. And I don't mean like bad to play.
Starting point is 02:56:16 I mean, that game looks and runs like shit. It is a like, like it, like the writing and all the talking feels like a fucking weird ass knockoff 2007 Xbox 360 game. And it looks like it. Like it really, really does. So when you play it on, when you play it on like performance mode, like it runs well, it looks like fucking smeared. So are we all just in the middle of Tommy, we so final fantasy right now? Is that the energy in the world? Well, it also, it also plays really well.
Starting point is 02:56:57 And it's like neo three. Well, so you're saying it looks like shit, but the combat's good. Yeah. Combat super good. Yeah. It's new three. Right. Okay.
Starting point is 02:57:08 Yeah. Like it's, it's straight up neo three with a bunch of the chain. Remember all the complaints I had about neo two? A lot of them, like a lot of them are fixed in this game because of the job system. Okay. But that's the energy in the room. Oh, hi, Mark. I'm here to kill chaos.
Starting point is 02:57:24 Yeah. Okay. 100% seeing the phrase edge Kino in the chat. Oh, fuck off with that. Edge is not Kino because it cuts you. It can is now it is now. And then there's the two. There's the two partners that he partners up with me and Ninja.
Starting point is 02:57:50 And then together with the scene where they have you seen the fucking cut scene where they meet? Yeah. Yeah. It's fucking unhinged. They hold their stones up behind him and then bro fist. And they just, it's, it's literally like, Hey, I have a cool rock. I have a cool rock too. Do you want to be friends?
Starting point is 02:58:11 Yeah. So touch. I'm hanging out with Jesse Pinkman and Ninja. Am I cool? Yeah. No. Oh, what do I do? You got it.
Starting point is 02:58:24 You got to get the blue mage robe on. Then you're cool. Okay. Okay. So like, and like then the girl shows up and she's like, I got a cool rock too. And they're like, that's cool. I just want to join our bro gang. I just, again, I saw the, I saw the cut scene of some elf going in.
Starting point is 02:58:47 That is why buddy's like, now hold on. I just want to hear about the crystals. There's like, it's just, you know, the absolute press button to skip in cut scene. I want to, I don't like, okay, let's, let's all think about, let's all think about something. So Metroid other M and stranger of paradise, final fantasy origin, both have a lot in common. They are both more action centric versions or spinoffs of their main franchises that put a new weird take on the character with Samus. They wanted her to appear to be more sensitive.
Starting point is 02:59:36 Right. Not really how it came across, but you can, you can believe that that was the intention. Right. With, with stranger of paradise, I can't even attempt to zero in on what the intention is because it's coming across so intense that the father of final fantasy villainy, the biggest bad for 30 years onwards, the evilest dude that fought the ancient warriors of light is the fucking weirdest, edgiest, dumbass shit kicker that I've ever seen in a game. I can only assume this is what happens when screenix drags the western appeal bar to the
Starting point is 03:00:32 maximum and says, let's design this for that audience exclusively. So like, there's two ways you can do it. Right. Oh, there's three ways you can do it. There's two good ways you can do it for characters that are supposed to appeal to the west. Right. You can go subtle. You can have Nero.
Starting point is 03:00:54 Right. He's not as cringe as Dante. He's got a darker edge, but he's still clearly designed with the same ethos. Right. Yeah. Nero becomes very popular. Though he does go. There are some, there are some like, well, I was going to say, Corona from Gantz has a similar
Starting point is 03:01:14 kind of like, you know, disposition, but go on. Yeah. We go with Jack Garland, a character that walked out of being an extra from the limp biscuit Roland video because they refused to pay him in beer. Right. Like just the absolute maximum slider. Right. He was summoned in the crowd at Woodstock 99.
Starting point is 03:01:51 Yeah. In the middle of stuff. The middle of these things, the middle of this is where all the bad Western JRPG protagonist or Western Japanese characters lived, which is their gruff and they're angry and they're cool and they're tough, but they're not gruff and angry and cool and tough enough or they're too gruff and tough and angry to be interesting. So who the person who jumps out at me the strongest of the middle of these two types is fucking rad Spencer from Bionic Commando, like the Xbox 360, where he's angrier and gruffer
Starting point is 03:02:47 and edgier than his redheaded weirdo asshole verse, but he's not gruff and dumb and stupid enough to be Kratos. No, he's just, he's just lead singer, front man for a band, edgy and gruff. Which the voice actor literally was. If you want to do it subtle, do it subtle. If you want to do it loud, apparently we have now seen the archetype go to the fucking max. Now, here's the other thing. People are pointing out Senator Armstrong is a really good example of this.
Starting point is 03:03:27 I played football. I fucking, I'm talking about my days back on the field in college ball. I'm literally just an American senator to the maximum. When you, when you bring in Garland and do this though, like if I'm like Garland has just been big villain, cape sword guy forever, right? Has there ever been any other attempt to like show anything inside of him? Well, FF one doesn't really have a whole lot going on. Well, yeah, but I mean in him coming back in the city and shit like that.
Starting point is 03:03:59 Yeah, he's evil. It's just the, it's just the big, the big sword knight. Yeah. Okay. So like, so I, I would like to ask the question of the people who designed Jack because this would be a question that would only apply to their knowledge of the American version of Final Fantasy one because in Final Fantasy one, the translation is garbage and Garland's big threat to you is that he's going to knock you down and it's really fucking stupid and
Starting point is 03:04:41 we and dumb and weird and Jack in Stranger of Paradise will literally yell out that he is going to knock people down. Yeah. Okay. And I'm like, are you basing this whole character off of the dumb translation of FF one in English from 87? Because if so, damn. But that's why I want to know man.
Starting point is 03:05:16 That's why I want to know what other characterization was given to him in Decidia because that would be your halfway step to figuring out. I mean, I played Decidia. He's, he's evil. He's the evil guy. Yeah. And he just, and he's just yelling all his evil quotes and right, right. I'll get you this time because I guess that's the thing is like this Decidia incarnations
Starting point is 03:05:38 of these like old characters would be then the idea of what Square thinks they, they would become adapted to in a modern context. And I'm assuming they're all pretty, they're all pretty accurate and good. But like Garland, he's got, God, I want to say he's got like fucking eight lines of dialogue in the entirety of Final Fantasy one. Okay. Like, and I'm assuming that like origins here is going to just be about Jack slowly getting those armor pieces and becoming that, you know, it's the fucking logo of the game.
Starting point is 03:06:13 I mean, dude, I don't know. Like, I really don't because like everything about the reveal, I'm going to use big ass air quotes reveal. Um, it's so fucking weird. Cause like they really genuinely thought that it was like going to be a fucking twist, like a twist. Like you're going to get to the end and be like, he was Garland the whole time. What?
Starting point is 03:06:38 And it's like people figured it out within like an hour of the first trailer coming out. They didn't say his last name then, right? He was just going to kill Chaos. The part where he says my name is Jack Garland. I think that clip in the trailers, like from the fucking ending. Like that's what it feels like. And so like, are they going to just play it up like, like last four minutes of the game is like, what's your name?
Starting point is 03:07:08 I'm Jack Garland. And then he puts the helmet on and sits on the throne and like, that's it. Like, I think that's what it's going to be like. I think because they're not going to change the whole fucking game. Yeah. So Western appeal slider up to 11 on everything it would seem and mainline final fantasy character being fucked with. But sure, I just because I see I see that people are like, yo, this game feels really fun.
Starting point is 03:07:42 Real good feels really good. So fuck it. We love chaos boy. And now we're all chaos and that's the energy is protect Jack and protect your bros. So the other thing anything to kill chaos together, the other thing about the game that I think I talked about it briefly before, but like now more of it has been seen this could this could be called like celebration of Final Fantasy the game. Oh, like, like, so it's neo three, right?
Starting point is 03:08:15 So the levels work like neo levels, like you pick them and you go to them and like this is the this is the this is this place and this is that place. And like in the demo that came out, it turns out you're going to dimensions and the dimensions are numbered. And I think the second level is you're going to dimension eight and you're going to the fire cave and it's the fucking tutorial fire cave from Final Fantasy eight. That has been very, very loosely tied into FF one. Okay.
Starting point is 03:08:48 So portal, but it's portal, but it is that right. And then you go to dimension 14, which is like the limson liminson thing. And I think you're doing the life and stuff. And you're going to dimension six and maybe that's the technological match. And it's like it's a tribute game. Like you're going to be hopping to areas that they'll tell you are FF one locations. But if you've played the game and look at it for more than one second, you're like, oh, it's Satasha.
Starting point is 03:09:15 Oh, that's great. Oh, that's stupid. And like, yeah, you go to dimension seven and it's like the Mako reactor. Okay. And that one's confirmed. Like they've shown it. And I guess as long as you're not running into anybody, but you're just fighting monsters, that's a good enough homage, right?
Starting point is 03:09:33 Yeah. So it's like a tribute game on like the level of like, like a the city a game. And I'm sure Gilgamesh will be a big boss fight, for example. And I can only assume because the way Neo games work and the amount of levels you deal with, there's actually going to be like you're going to you're going to dimension 12 and it's the Wraith wall, but you're also going to dimension 12 again. And it's Rabin Aster or, you know, what have you? Well, I mean, as long as it's fun and we're comparing it to Neo, these are good things
Starting point is 03:10:08 because Neo is fucking awesome. Yeah, it's just literally Neo. I'm still working my way through and I will I will I will then definitely want to check this out. But does the the trio that you're playing with or whatever, is that like like different jobs that you can switch to or? Yeah, dude, there's there are the like the full gamut of jobs of Paradise. So like you start with the loser freak jobs that nobody who hasn't played the MMOs knows
Starting point is 03:10:50 about. So like Pugilist and Marauder and Thaumaturge, right? Sure, which then become Monk and Warrior or Berserker or Black Mage. Okay, right. People are saying 27 jobs. So like, damn, the whole gamut, the whole one. Like Lancer to Dragoon, right? Like the whole gang.
Starting point is 03:11:29 And that to me makes the Neo skill system a hell of a lot more easy to understand because you switch between the jobs like a style in Devil May Cry. Oh, it's really instant switching. Yeah. Cool. Okay. Jack is able to do what the main character of FF 14 was doing in the Shadowbringers trailer, but for real.
Starting point is 03:11:50 Why? The word job stops being like stops applying at the moment you're switching. It's been 30 years. And they stole it from Dragon Quest too. Like there's you can't it's too late. Like at that point, you're just you can say class switching if you don't want to say style switching. No, but job switching classes.
Starting point is 03:12:10 Classes are different. It's a job. Well, anyway, totally different. Anyway, question answered then because that's the main thing is observing the difference in energy from when he was revealed to the final trailer to the new teaser and then the release of which it seems to be doing really well. But I'm like, everyone loves him now. What happened?
Starting point is 03:12:40 And it's like, I think they loved him right away because they just it just never stopped. But I like there was a distinct flavor of like, it's over. Squeenix doesn't know what the fuck they're doing. Oh my God, this looks like a train wreck that then. No, that's true. And we're going to talk about that in a few minutes. And then that seemed to like dissipate into just like, fuck yeah, chaos, bros. We J we J O together.
Starting point is 03:13:09 One of the one of the things that I've seen is people it's been this long standing thing of like, there are there are folks that are like, this looks like garbage. I can't believe everyone is being ironic and pretending to love this because it's so bad. And it's like, no, just because you find it embarrassing or whatever doesn't mean that people don't legitimately enjoy it. The fact like Lincoln Park is kind of a little bit cringe. I their lyrics are embarrassing. I don't care.
Starting point is 03:13:45 I fucking love hybrid theory and meteora. Right. What I'm I will listen to those albums in my house without headphones on and I don't care. Yes. Now what I'm referring to is again, just Internet Twitter reception from when this thing dropped and and where we where we're at today and the feeling that that has changed. Okay, so there were two things that day. One was the trailer and everyone was like laughing and some people were laughing with
Starting point is 03:14:19 like, I can't wait to see the rest of these cut scenes because this looks like garbage. And the other was laughing because like, oh my God, this is a fucking train wreck. Then the demo came out, but the demo was broken. I don't know if you remember that was broken. Okay. And you can play it for like a day and a half. And we were like, oh my God, what a train wreck. And then the demo actually came out and it played really well.
Starting point is 03:14:45 And so the people who laughed because they were like, this is hilarious are now looking at a good game that is also hilarious. Okay. And the people who like this is a disaster are forced to admit that it's not a disaster because the game actually plays well. Right. Okay. Now this narrative makes more sense.
Starting point is 03:15:04 Okay. There was a demo not working contributed to this being a laughing stock. Intensely. I did a stream where I'm like, hey guys, the demo is ready. Let's do it. Oh, it's broken. Then I ended the stream after four minutes. Okay.
Starting point is 03:15:19 Five shift. I'm not crazy. And then that came back around because it turns out that the combat's pretty tight. That makes sense. I have the complete narrative there. Got it. And now you can laugh. It looks like soup, dude.
Starting point is 03:15:33 It's like, it's so ugly. It's really hilarious. But now you can laugh at it in the same way that you laugh at the dumb shit that Dante is doing because you're like, yeah, this is fucking awesome to play regardless. Yeah. The Doom guy side of Wahoo crazy pizza. Okay. Now, the last question I have on it is, is anybody looking at it going, you're ruining
Starting point is 03:15:59 the legacy of Garland. The Garland's got nothing. The FF one, the first villain. He's like, he's a totally fucking black slate. I cares. I just, you know, like, it's like, oh, the first hero. The only people who could say that must be mandatory 35, 36 or older, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 03:16:25 My age or older. Yeah. And, and to people like the ruin of the legacy of like, you're insane. It's a 64 pixel little light man with fucking no dialogue in a game that has no story. Okay. Like, shut up. Cause that's, that's the thing is the, the, the, you know, the hero of light has that like, look that I get, at least seeing what the, the, the way it got, it got carried over
Starting point is 03:16:50 in the city and such that is very like, this is a legacy important character. This is the final fantasy franchise. It started here. Warrior of light actually is different than Garland because the warrior of light gets to be a fucking player stand in and gets to be a hero like put forth like explicitly art and other games references as them as the archetypal hero as the only warrior of light that doesn't even have their own goddamn name. They're just the warrior of light.
Starting point is 03:17:21 So, and in that way, people would not want to see, or people, I can see people getting upset over something like that getting fucked up or like red from Pokemon getting fucked up or doing something with, with Jonathan, you know, Joe star, like, like that idea of like the original legacy and the importance of that. And yeah, no, that's fucking stupid. If that doesn't apply here, then all the better. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 03:17:46 Sure doesn't. All right. It's fucking stupid. You know who's a great warrior of light on ironically fighter and his sword chucks. Oh, eight bit theater. Yes. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 03:18:01 That is just as legitimate a warrior of light as any other. The era of fucking reading web comics is over, but like our references will never change. Those are frozen. I so you might be people watching at home with the video on can notice that the cat tree got moved over because we're doing some spring cleaning. It's a little early, but we're, you know, cleaning up the house. I went through some boxes that I have never gone. I went through a box of books that I have not gone through since I moved to my last apartment.
Starting point is 03:18:35 And I'm like, I should probably look in this fucking thing. And I found real ultimate power. Yeah. And I put that in the keep pile. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Somewhere I got one of those.
Starting point is 03:18:51 So the Ninja guide, you like absolutely is here. There's some stuff. I definitely have some stuff. I'm pretty sure I have a couple of sin fest collections that from back in the day way, way back when I was, I was like, that's a fun web comic. Oh, what happened? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:19:20 Early internet. Well, anyways, state of play. Good old internet. State of play. What else we got? We got the reveal speaking of absolutely dumb and like, let's fucking go. Let's just lean into it. Exo Primal.
Starting point is 03:19:39 Capcom. I, I feel like I felt attacked watching that trailer. Uh-huh. I felt physically accosted. The absolute lack of a crisis. It like. Of the dino variety being shown. There's a team of, of cool, the cool gang and they're going to fight dinosaurs falling
Starting point is 03:20:09 out of the sky coming through a kind of portal and there's, and there's, there's a girl with bright red short hair hanging out with the dino crew. Uh-huh. And they're like, Exo Primal, what the fuck's a dino crisis? And I'm like, oh man, that thing's dead. Man, that franchise got killed. Like that's done. Did you see the end of the trailer?
Starting point is 03:20:35 The last last shot? I can't remember. The last last shot of the trailer is they go, so you're a, you're a new recruit here. You want to fight some dinosaurs and someone walks in and their head is cropped off screen and then goes to sit down, but they don't show their face. So who knows? Like, who knows? What if it is, it is.
Starting point is 03:21:03 And it's, and it's, and it's, and it's a lady, a lady walks over and sits down, but you don't see her face. Right. So maybe it's just to create a character. But what if I think, I think people coming up with fake. Dino crisis analogs is like one of the funniest things I've seen in a long time. Like lizard disaster or cretaceous catastrophe. Triassic troubles.
Starting point is 03:21:34 Yeah. Like, dude, it's, it's great. They're so confusing. Yeah. Like just like intensely, intensely weird. Well, what they did show is a bunch of people in some fucking robot suits, power armor. It's EDF, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:21:52 EDF with fucking dinosaurs. And the dinosaurs are being thrown about like liquid. They're pouring waves of liquid dinosaur through the windows, like onto buildings. And it's the dumbest shit I've, I've seen all year. I'm watching it and Paige is watching it and like the portal opens up like 200 feet above the ground and like all these velociraptors just shoot out and hit the ground. No problem. And they just flat.
Starting point is 03:22:20 They were just instantly splat and die. What the fuck is this water like zombies and now zombie horde waves are the thing. Fluid zombie waves. We need fluid dino waves. And yes, I'm, I'm all about it. I'm down to see more of this. I want to know what's up. Fuck it.
Starting point is 03:22:41 Stupid levels of dinosaurs being thrown at you by some clearly nefarious organized and hostile force. Who knows, man? Who knows? Because either the dinosaurs themselves have conspired to drop themselves on cities from sky high and invade. You don't know that. Or some evil person has access to an infinite dinosaur dimension and is using that to fill
Starting point is 03:23:06 up the cities up. But either way, let's fucking go. I want to see it. Exoprimal. Terrible name too. Really bad. Really bad. Because it's, because it's primal with the M with the scratches like a dinosaur claw,
Starting point is 03:23:24 but it's exosuits. So it's both at the same time. Yeah. No, this is, this is, this is the absolute like dumb. I'm, I'm, I'm here. I'm here to see it. I want to, I want to know how dumb it gets. I want to know if you can get.
Starting point is 03:23:38 It's probably going to get super dumb. I want to see the boss will be like a dinosaur wearing like a top hat going, ha ha. It's my evil plan. Well, more along the lines of like, okay, that's just a t-rex. That's nice. But what if the t-rex has like an army of an army of pterodactyls that can like lift it up for like big flight? You know, what if they can coordinate attacks and combine and shit right on a stegosaurus
Starting point is 03:24:01 get some armor? I want to know. There's a, there's a shot of like a viciously evil trite seratops attacking buildings in that trailer and it's fucking wild. Like what? So yeah, Capcom is swinging for the fences and let's fucking, let's see it. Let's see it. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:24:24 There's some dumb shit. And yeah, EDF is correct. EDF is the right energy because I feel it as the, as the humans are like posing in their big exosuits. They look like EDF character. You know, you're like, yeah, this is absolutely going to be just that level of silly. And we're going to need to see some grunt humans get chewed up by the dinosaurs. 100%.
Starting point is 03:24:49 You know, and everyone going, oh God, oh no. In the cut scenes. Exoprimal revealed. Then yes. Hey man. I got to take a quick break. I got to take dog out. Okay.
Starting point is 03:25:04 Ryan. He used to poop. I'll be your bet. Anyway, I was in the bit middle of saying the exoprimal shit looks like even though there's like EDF dumb vibes gameplay wise, I think it's it's going to be more like horde mode or like left for dead style for PVE. You know, they say it's competitive in nature, which is actually very confusing.
Starting point is 03:25:35 They show you that like you have like they show off the one of the exosuits is like a Reinhardt that blocks with the shield. And then it says like you can switch roles at any point. So like you're working together, but like you can all just play any role that you want to. And I guess it's like, yeah, whoever does the most like whatever in their role is is going to get, you know, like do the best per round or whatever the case is, but it seems to be about a four player team going against multiple waves, you know, need to see more
Starting point is 03:26:13 need to see more. But hopefully it is not Operation Raccoon City again. I'm listening to your premise. I am attentively listening to your premise exoprimal. You have my attention. Okay. So then they showed off some new stuff in Ghostwire Tokyo and not much else to really say just the game looks gorgeous.
Starting point is 03:26:44 It looks game looks cool. It looks really, really pretty. And aesthetically, I can't wait to just fucking see all of that. Like that's the that's the number one thing right now is like, yep, it's first person. You're going to zip around. You're going to cast spells and fight some demons and all that jazz, but it aesthetically looks very unique and fun and whatever they show off. Every time they show off some kind of new power or new yokai that's attacking you, I'm
Starting point is 03:27:11 like, yeah, no, this is one of the best looking depictions of Tokyo. I've seen, you know, outside of like fucking our RG studio or RGG studio. Yeah, it kind of genuinely looks like an RGG game, but with ghosts, though, it's really bizarre. I mean, I don't just mean like it's taking place in like the same kind of area. I mean, like the way they've textured and lit the place like looks like a similar engine. So I think RGG is going to still end up taking it because they have internal maps. They have like interiors for buildings.
Starting point is 03:27:59 But if this turned out to have anything comparable, then like this could be the best looking version of Tokyo, you know, but that's what it's going to kind of come down to is like they went to the next level with Yakuza by letting you see the insides of these buildings now in the same level of obsessive detail. It's fucking incredible. Yeah, Ghost Warrior looks amazing. That's coming out in like two seconds as well, actually. Yeah, it's coming out in two weeks.
Starting point is 03:28:26 Yeah, that's late March. And what's not coming out in two weeks, what was supposed to come out, actually, they were on the same day originally. So March 25th is Ghost Warrior Tokyo. Oh, no, wait, hold on. May was forespoken. My bad. Okay, forespoken was supposed to be dropping in May on the 24th, and it has been delayed
Starting point is 03:28:53 since to October 11th. So they're pushing that back a bit. And then they showed off a bit more of that. And yeah, it's shiny. I don't know about that game, man. It looks shiny. I don't know. We'll have to, I want to see the like combat walkthrough.
Starting point is 03:29:13 Like this is the systems. This is how it works. This is what you're going to be doing. Yeah, I feel like they keep showing like the same 30 seconds of it over and over. The pretty spell casting is pretty, but like, how's it actually work work, you know? Ghost Warrior showed that off in their gameplay introduction last time, for example. I think that's what we need at this point to really lock it in. Because I mean, yeah, I like, I like what I see with forespoken.
Starting point is 03:29:40 Like it does look pretty cool, but it's just like, is it going to be very like, are you actually engaging with the action here moment to moment? There's a lot of it just kind of playing itself is, is I guess what I'm wondering about. And yeah, they showed off that. Then they went on to show the new Gundam Evolution trailer, which is one of the games where I went like, I guess, because you know, Gundam's been. Yeah, it's Overwatch Gundam, I guess. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:30:20 You know, they've got the Breaker series. They've got X versus M bond. And those things are great. And why not just grab some of that FPS money as well. So six of you six online battles, pick your Gundam and do the overwatch. Sure. You know, it's not like. Larry David, when you yeah, well, it's just and it's the thing is when you when you when
Starting point is 03:30:50 you when you emphasize the this type of play, then you're also probably emphasizing the gun play and less of like the beam sabers and the crazier melee shit that I think is cool. But they do have a big old shot of Barbados in their swinging the fucking block around doing some melee damage. So could be interesting. We'll have to see. We'll have to see. But yeah, Gundam applied to whatever genre, so be it.
Starting point is 03:31:19 You know, they're not coming for that battle rail money just yet, but they will. In my experience, gun Gundam applied to any genre always is like, hey, it's like a good game from that genre, but worse, because it was made with this licensed property and thus shy it out. Yep. But look, it's it's samurai. Oh, cool. And then it did it did it did it did it did it.
Starting point is 03:31:51 Annoying new type noise. Then they showed off gigabash, which is the basically king of the monsters vibe game, which it feels as if a bunch of people have been trying to bring back a like yeah, and they all just don't come out all the kaiju fighting things. Just tend to not really come out. I think override though did drop and that happened, although that's like a lot of robot stuff more so. But yeah, it's it's another kaiju battle game. And I guess this one might actually happen because PlayStation said it will.
Starting point is 03:32:33 So sure. That's cool. I was never a big king. Whatever you say PlayStation. Yeah, I didn't I didn't play a ton of King of the Monsters really. I didn't get into that and I didn't get into rampage either. So like, you know, I'm down for wherever this goes, but I definitely don't have the nostalgia that others would first for these games where you're like destroying a city doing the big monster battle.
Starting point is 03:33:01 I think the best one I ever played was War of the Monsters. And it's weird that that game never got re-released. Was that like the second or third of the? It was completely independent game that came out on the PS2. Oh, it was incredible. Cool. Yeah, that's that's a brand new studio as well. They do say at the end that they have love for kaiju and Tokusatsu.
Starting point is 03:33:29 So there might be. Well, you would bet you better. Yeah, there might be this type of game. Cool things coming out in that direction, too. Then they showed off JoJo's Bizarre Adventure All-Star Battle are. Which a lot of people thought was a new game because it's been that long, but it is not ASB. No, it is not a real game. It's a 2014 PlayStation 3 JoJo fighting game, not the one made by Capcom because Reggie got so confused.
Starting point is 03:34:06 He was like, wait, I also got confused. What? It was the most confusing announcement for people because even if you're going back to a JoJo game, the fact that they didn't go back to Eyes of Heaven, but they went back to the first thing they did. Well, they they called it a legendary fighting game. And I'm like, and then I saw the JoJo stuff come up like, oh, fight for the future. And then it's like All-Star Battle. And I'm like, that is not a legendary fighting game.
Starting point is 03:34:40 So here's the thing all this time later. It still is probably the best piece of JoJo fan service to exist. Yeah, sure. But whatever. I know, I know. But that whatever is not it's not not everyone hits that whatever. I hit that whatever right there with you. There's this thing called YouTube where you can go and look at all the things.
Starting point is 03:35:05 And you can look at all the things. And that's what that's what ends up happening a lot of the time. It's the same thing like New Ultimate Hero 3. Like, oh, should I play this shitty game? Or should I just look at the cool cutscenes they made on YouTube? Oh, yeah. The second one. I'll play that and fucking cop a super robot Wars game.
Starting point is 03:35:22 No problem. Now, people are pointing out that they are in fact changing the game to which I point out. Who's changing it cyber connect to the people who made it bad in the first place. So the main thing that we're seeing here is that it is a there's new characters. So I will assume they're going to add in all the people that, you know, now that part eight has gotten further in, they can they can add since that was a whole. I think part eight was really early in in 2014. It was only like three of its 11 year run into into the story.
Starting point is 03:35:54 So now they can add a lot more. Also, they got the anime voice actors to come in and do the voices to replace the ones that they were cast or that replaced the original casting, which was which was already pretty all right. But that makes more sense now that you have you've established it across these animated for seasons. So that's pretty cool. And that all helps to add to the continued like this is your biggest piece of fan service thing ever. You know, I mean, I saw I was looking at some of the comments where some people were just like, man, they better fucking add this person from part seven or this person from eight or part eight this time.
Starting point is 03:36:35 And, you know, people kind of just like really excited to see that. And you have to realize that it's more or less just kind of like a smash draft roster where it doesn't matter what the gameplay is going to be here. It's just the cool 3D model of the thing with the quotes and the costumes and the fun stuff to look at. Please be in the game because I like that character and that ends up being that. But in terms of gameplay, I if it's if it's what it was, then it ain't the Capcom one. And that hurts because as someone who absolutely wants to love a JoJo celebrating thing that puts this much work into like the detail of how cool these characters are in animation and moving in a game in a genre that I love. It's also because I love the genre hard to ignore the parts of the game that are just not good, you know. But I do prefer All Star Battle to Eyes of Heaven.
Starting point is 03:37:35 I prefer this way more. Not even close. So they at least that's good. And let's see if that taunt bug is still in the game. If you can still do taunt infinites on people. Let's uh, I have advice for the people making the JoJo game. You should make it good. I feel I feel like it's like there's never in a billion years.
Starting point is 03:38:02 But like if someone was willing to, they could call in just even some local like celebrated strong Japanese players in fighting games to come in and just like ground up this system, you know. Just make it make it something else completely kind of how real battle on film Street Fighter II, the movie, the game, they took all of these sprites that were captured of the actors live on the set and then dropped them into an ST style gameplay setup. And suddenly the game became way more fun because they're like, yeah, okay, just give us the sprites. We'll make them move in a way that's a good Street Fighter game. And then you got that one as opposed to the original American release and salvaged it, you know. So that's it. That's it. Yeah, let's just make a good game.
Starting point is 03:39:02 That's that's yeah. I'm seeing that do that. ASBR is going to include two v two battles. They're adding some hit stop. They're adding some other air dashes. Okay. I mean, it's going to take a little more than that, I think the speed, the flow, the movement, a lot of it. Just doesn't feel as snappy as I would like it to feel.
Starting point is 03:39:39 But in any case, the best piece of my head, the best piece of JoJo fan service is coming. It is what it is. Will there be rollback? You fucking wish the R probably is not set for rollback. I'll eat my fucking shoe if I'm wrong right here. But I would be very surprised if rollback were to be confirmed by a cyber connect fight. There's no way. Like knowing what I just want knowing what that word is implies that you're like kind of aware of what's happening in the genre.
Starting point is 03:40:13 But that awareness also stops you from designing the game the way this plays, you know. Yeah, it could be I could be wrong. They might throw it in and I could be super wrong. There's no you got to eat a shoe. You know, there's no no guarantee that it's not going to be a blow up. But I don't think all the changes they're going to make will be enough to make it a really good fighter. Kids like that hit stop right? Okay, we could put that in.
Starting point is 03:40:51 Yeah, I just hate this. I just hate this. This losing battle every time because it's just like I we we talked to a lot of people. There's a lot of a lot of audience and that audience has for me. There's a lot of fighting game fans I reach and there's a lot of Jojo fans I reach. And like I sometimes the Jojo fans feel like I'm directly taking a shit in their Cheerios. And I mean, I don't know what to tell you. Maybe the Cheerios should have not had a giant space for me to take a dump in it.
Starting point is 03:41:28 To people who are such fans of a property that they don't give a goddamn shit what the quality level of any piece of that property is, you're fucking moron. If you get a Jojo shirt and you put it on and within 10 seconds of the shirt being on your back, like one of the fucking sleeves tears off when you just kind of shrug your shoulders. You go, well it's got a good picture of Giorno on it though. You're fucking idiot. You're fucking moron. If you're the type of person who's like, I do love Batman so much. Man, Batman was so cool. Oh my god.
Starting point is 03:42:04 And you just ignore the fact that it's a terrible movie. You're fucking moron. You're just a fucking weird fucking freak who just treats like your fucking cartoon character like a religion because you have no personality. See, what I remember getting hit at with at the time, which there's again, there's many years between back then and now, but the general vibe of like, look man, I mashed buttons with Giorno. I had a good time. What's wrong with that? You know, and it's like, well, nothing if you got your money's worth. See, that's fine.
Starting point is 03:42:44 You know, just, I'm not going to treat it the same way I do. I treat like, that's completely fine. The difference, the difference. There are two types of people. It's like, yeah, whatever. Man, I just, I enjoy seeing this stuff. No one, no one is mad at that person. The guy who saw Batman versus Superman, it was like, yeah, but I just like, I like the part where Batman did the thing.
Starting point is 03:43:09 That's the most honest thing in the world and there's no, no, there's no annoyance there. The annoyance always comes from, always. Dude, JoJo's All Star Battle is the best game ever because Giorno's Super is like so accurate. Dude, Budokai Tenkaichi 3 is the best Dragon Ball game ever because it has shitfucked the pig freak from the panel, whatever. I learned. And I don't care how it controls. Like, you're stupid. I learned a lot about the world when I was at the New York Comic Con where they had a Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2 tournament.
Starting point is 03:43:57 And that was happening and it was like the one Dragon Ball tournament happening there was just that and the crowd came through and they were doing it. And I forgot who I was with, but I was just like, no fighters in sight, huh? We're just, everyone's, we're just doing this. We're just doing the full Xenoverse tournament was popping off and everyone was like, isn't it like, yeah, no, they're loving it. They're loving it. That's, that's the thing. It's cool to pick SSJ BroLinks and have a good time. And it's like, yeah, no, that's, that's fine.
Starting point is 03:44:29 There's no reason you can't have fun with that. But it's not going to cut it for me. And please, please don't be an obnoxious asshole about it. If the only factor in your opinion of something's quality is if it has the logo that you like on it, you're a fucking weird zealot. That goes for everyone in the world who will ever say the phrase blank bias about an entertainment property. You're a fucking freak. SSJ BroLinks is clearly and obviously a fusion between Broly and Trunks. Duh.
Starting point is 03:45:21 Come on. They don't even have the same power level that doesn't make any fucking sense. Shut up. Doesn't matter. Potara. Okay. Yeah. Potara.
Starting point is 03:45:32 You are. Okay. Yeah. You're right. Oh, anyways, anyways, it's fine. Just get ready when the game drops to have a new wave of this crash over your fucking, your, your, your shores, you know. Also, so that the comic people don't feel too bad that I focused in on them and the anime and manga people don't feel too bad that I focused in on them. I would like you all to know that there is the longest standing group of total fucking idiot suckers in video games to ever exist.
Starting point is 03:46:08 And none of you have any overlap with them. And it is people who like hockey and football and basketball teams who let every single fucking unlicensed sports game just die in the fucking dirt because it didn't have the Chicago Blackhawks in it. Oh, they don't have the Patriots. Gotta have my logo, bro. Why would I play that game? It's gotta have my logo. It's gotta have my team. It's a fucking logo.
Starting point is 03:46:35 No. It's just a logo. No, no, no. Gotta have the player. Gotta have the player. Even though the helmet's on and you can't really see his face, but you know underneath it, it's kind of sort of there. It's gotta, it's gotta be, it's gotta be the player, man. I need it.
Starting point is 03:46:50 Shit like NFL Blitz the League, which is a pretty decent fucking football game. Definitely a lot better than fucking Madden the year came out. Fucking crashes and burns because it doesn't have the right set of logos on it. It was a brilliant decision when EA locked all of those rights down because the years of competition on them, like it dried up and it got to a point of sophistication where I want to say come the Dreamcast, like the introduction of the 2K game, like when things got that good looking, people suddenly cared exclusively about those licenses. The NHLPA games, the fact that there's a player association game, quarterback club,
Starting point is 03:47:37 you know, all sorts of rival titles, even Madden 64, which didn't have the NFL license, but was just putting city names with two matching colors next to it. Like all of that was fine and you'd buy the one that played better, you know? But no, EA made the right move. It was a brilliant decision. Point out that that is a longstanding misunderstanding of what actually occurred with the NFL license. It has long been the understanding by almost everyone who plays games, even people who played games back in the day, that EA was like Madden, sorry, NFL,
Starting point is 03:48:16 sorry, 2K5 I think was the game, just kicked the fucking shit out of Madden that year and was being sold for $20. Oh, I'm getting deja vu. I think we covered this already. Yeah, I think you said something like this. EA was like, give us the fucking NFL license. What actually happened was the NFL was sick of having to negotiate with multiple companies every year and they literally just wanted to go, we just want to sell our license to one company for the biggest fucking pocket ever and EA was the only company that could literally afford it.
Starting point is 03:48:48 Right. And then the same thing happened with the NBA license and then the same thing happened with the NHL license. It is absolutely the NFL and the NHL and the NBA's fault that EA ruined those games. It is not EA's fault even, weirdly enough. Then there's still college games that come out too as well, although that faces the entire other problem of like treating your players like shit. Like they get nothing despite being. I'm not going to play a college sports game unless it has that university that has all the rapists in it
Starting point is 03:49:28 because, God damn it, I want to see that logo and they should put that statue. Anyway, back to video games. It's really cool when Ringo wrote again, says, welcome to the true man's world on the title select screen and then the music plays. It's fucking awesome. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, that's cool. Boy. I'm looking forward to it.
Starting point is 03:50:04 Can't wait. Some other stuff was announced. Sports fans are the biggest nerds in the world. I've told this story before, but I remember talking to my dad about baseball and my dad could list off fucking 40 years of baseball stats for every player that ever played in fucking the major league baseball since he was a kid. And then he'd be like, you're wasting your time with those video games. How long did it take you to learn their batting averages, dad?
Starting point is 03:50:39 You're nuts. You're fucking nuts. Well, you know, and now you can tell your kid that you're going to, you can recite the entire, I don't know, like cycle for a given class in FF 14 and what spells are the right ones to do and which ones are the word, you know, like. What year? Yeah, we all, we all get in there at some point. It's all the same shit. Yeah, but the difference is, and here's the difference.
Starting point is 03:51:08 Here's the fun part. When they're into their VR DJ rave mixing and I'm like, look at this nerd, look at this nerd with his DJ mixing with the VR portal. I'm going to know it's stupid and I'm going to enjoy it. I'm going to be like, it's my turn now, idiot. You're such a dweeb. Yeah, my old shit's cool. Your new shit sucks, kid.
Starting point is 03:51:35 Suck it. Well, more like your old shit paid for this shit. Yeah, whatever. Your dad's baseball knowledge didn't do shit. I'm making money out here. What are you doing, kid? See, that's the real deal. You want to talk about Lester the unlikely?
Starting point is 03:51:53 Yeah, Lester the unlikely references paid for your braces. We're going to talk about it. You know, in the beginning, you barely do a jump. Reset the clock. But then by the end of the game. He's leaping. Fuck it. Yeah, your dad's baseball knowledge never paid for shit.
Starting point is 03:52:11 I didn't do shit. That's the important distinction. That's very important. And then he's like, hey, we're going to go to the baseball game this year. I'm like sick, dad. Then the fucking expos leave forever. Fucking expos. It's one of the most fucking, it's one of the things about Dave Lang that makes me so
Starting point is 03:52:32 insane is that he has this fucking expos hat. Oh, yeah. Loves to wear. Oh, no, there's the cool throwback expos clothing that you can have. That's just all about like reminding everyone how dead the team is. Oh, God. Oh, it hurts. It's like wearing necromancy gear.
Starting point is 03:52:51 It's it's just. Which is appropriate for his ghost. Rest in peace, Dave. Rest in peace. Other things that got announced. One, the. New game called Trek to Yomi, which is basically looking like a Kurosawa inspired samurai versus yokai sort of game.
Starting point is 03:53:16 Oh, I forgot that was the name and all I could think of, all I could think of is when you say Trek to Yomi a joke that I didn't think of at the time is the Trek to Yomi is a game about learning to mash throw reversal inputs on wake up. But in case Wolf is going to try and swing on you. But the true Yomi is no throw reversal input. It's nothing by not inputting anything. That is how you reverse a throw. Oh, that's an actual Yomi counter.
Starting point is 03:53:53 Yeah. Yomi is the Japanese word for reading the mind of the opponent. And what I actually thought of when I heard Trek to Yomi was I thought of 310 to Yuma. OK, and that was the wrong thing. But anyway, say every black and white game that has a black and white aesthetic, I'm looking at it and I'm like, it looks wrong. They're all trying to look like Kurosawa movies and they all look like shit. It's too gray.
Starting point is 03:54:22 It's too gray. It's gray scale. They put a monochrome gray scale filter on it. It's not black and white. It's the same problem again and again. And it's a very easy to understand thing when you read Sin City or when you look at like the source material on stuff that is designed to be monochromatic. It doesn't mean taking a normal scale of lighting and then just dropping it into black and white
Starting point is 03:54:50 on a filter and calling it a day. It means designing it to be built and sculpted out of whites and darks, you know. Black and white. There's no black, white and gray movie. It's black and white. You do actually have gray, but it's selective and deliberate. They're the edges of the edges. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 03:55:11 And when you do, you also drop in like tone in a lot of cases, you know. I mean, in a comic, you'll have dot tone to kind of bring that into effect. But also like when I'm watching this, I pointed out like also Kurosawa, when color became available, made all his fucking movies in color and they look great and they're saturated and vibrant. So that is a talented filmmaker that's why he's the best shit he got. So it unfortunately does seem to be the case here when you look at most of the trailer here, that it's like they're going for the multiple shades of gray, which is fine. It's fine.
Starting point is 03:55:47 It's a valid thing to choose. It's a valid style to go with. But like it is interesting how people, when they, yeah, when they go to emulate that, they get it wrong thinking that you just take a color thing, make it black and white, and it'll be, it'll look old. And it's like, no, they actually had to like, they had to put shots together and compose them with a completely different lighting method, methodology than standard colored lighting, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 03:56:19 Like I think I still think it's going to dry. Ghost of Tsushima is a great game, but it's like Kurosawa mode is maybe like the biggest failure of like an alternate art design I've seen in my life of anything is a total failure top to bottom. I'm skipping around in random pieces and like every single object in the frame is gray. Yeah. It looks so bad. Now that being said, the game is being made by, what is the studio called?
Starting point is 03:57:03 They made Shadow Warrior, Flying Wildhog. So I've never played Shadow Warrior. Seems like it's a game that people enjoy. Seems like I heard good things, but yeah, not much to make of this in terms of the basics of its combat system, but it just seems to be side scrolling, locked in, fight some, fight some yokai, play a samurai dude. That seems fine. Man, just actually typing the word Kurosawa movies into Google and just scrolling down
Starting point is 03:57:48 past the like extreme lights and darks of every shot. I threw it into YouTube. Yeah. And the one that I got, I scroll past a couple and the one that cracked me up was like, I think it's, God, I forget what movie it is, but it's just like all of them are like the sky's a little gray, but mostly white and like the grass is a little gray, but mostly dark and characters are wearing like bright and black and it's just like, it's so fucking. Everything is saturated up and down and it's very extreme.
Starting point is 03:58:29 Like I'm sending you a screenshot right now. Yeah. This is the most emblematic one. Exactly. Shapes. The gray is white gray and the mist is white and the rocks on the ground are white and then you have your character who's almost head to toe in black and it's so frustrating. Figures and shapes define themselves as their own outlined figures, like a compositional
Starting point is 03:58:56 strong figures. And then backgrounds and sky and horizon and all that stuff is given its own layer as well, but all of that is like, it's not blending together so that the dark on the person is the same as the dark of the buildings around them and is the same as the darkness of the sky and the darks of the hat. And then there's only a couple of highlights here and there. Like you got to, you have to sculpt it a little bit more, you know. Anyway, anyway, that being said.
Starting point is 03:59:28 Game. And you watch ran and ran is like the most fucking saturated movie you've ever fucking seen your life. The brightest colors on everybody's armor and like, I could go on, but I mean, it's kind of goofy when like Mad World comes closer than the actual. Mad World's great. Like legitimately Mad World comes closer because it's because of its use of white and black and contrast.
Starting point is 04:00:04 Yeah. Anyway, well, then they showed off the new update to Returnal Ascension co-op mode and Tower of Sisyphus. I hear that they have finally fixed the saving system. That's wonderful. Oh, cool. I hear this co-op mode is in. That's cool.
Starting point is 04:00:27 Unfortunately, it's not local co-op. I got excited for that it might be, but it is online co-op only, which, you know, in retrospect, maybe I was kind of silly for them at thinking about there being a local co-op because nothing does that anymore, you know. But I saw that and I was like, I think. I think Returnal might be the best shooter I've ever played combined with the worst roguelike I've ever played. The subtle gun changes that you hated didn't bother me as much.
Starting point is 04:00:59 It was the save bug or save feature or lack thereof that killed it for me. Well, the save bug is a terrible, but runs being like more than twice as long as the average run of every other roguelike ever plus the save bug. Right. Right. Yeah. Like I was at the point in the game where I was getting far enough to get to a specific room in like level five, which is straight up the hardest room in the game.
Starting point is 04:01:25 It would take me like 90 minutes to get to this one room and then fail in like eight seconds. And then, oh, okay, whatever. Yeah, I guess I'm willing to give it another crack now that that update's been done, though. I've been just so put off by needing to block out a couple hours of my day towards the game and knowing that I couldn't possibly turn it off or put it down. And now that seems like you can, I'm down to go take another look, you know. Yeah. Then they showed off the Diofields Chronicles or the Diofields Chronicle.
Starting point is 04:02:08 And that just looks like a... Confusion. Everyone seemed to think it was a returning game. And then it turned out to just be a new RTS. I thought it was going to be Tactics. Yeah. Because it looks like it. Yeah.
Starting point is 04:02:25 And then it sounds like it. But it's RTS and it's ungritted. And then they show like... There's something about that game that makes me really, really worried. And it's... They only show what the actual gameplay is like for actually two seconds. They show you like a rush battle on the horse thing. They show you a couple of attacks at it getting set up.
Starting point is 04:02:51 And I think you see a... And it's like, oh, it's... A Bahamut summon? It's real time with pause. Yeah. But it's real time with pause like RTS. And I'm like, oh. Okay.
Starting point is 04:03:06 No grid, huh? No turn based? No turn based. No grid. No turn based. Oh, okay. Yeah. That's real time.
Starting point is 04:03:15 Okay. Real time makes me sweat because I just lack the skill. But I'm always open to throwing myself into an unfamiliar environment. And with pause is helpful for people like me. So that existing is nice. But like 13 Sentinels, for example, like the fact that I could set up my next movement in the stops time made that game night and day for me because I just, I lack the skills to macro manage in the way that it would want me to if you couldn't slow down time
Starting point is 04:03:54 in 13 Sentinels. I don't think it looks very good. I think it's fine. But we'll see. That's just my gut reaction. Again, a lot of these things need that first look. Here's the gameplay in action for like 20 minutes. You know, you need to see it run and get through all of its bits and pieces.
Starting point is 04:04:17 Well, I have a weird requests from you. Usually I don't ask this because you might not be able to actually deliver it to me because it, you know, who knows what you actually have on the docket. But like, I have the really intense urge to play a game that simulates the feeling of eating drywall. Do you have something there on your announcement list? Could you possibly maybe be interested in some Valkyrie Elysium? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 04:05:04 Oh, that taste. Mmm. That's the drywall I crave. Dude, I look, I have to say, I don't. Like, I don't know. I needed to crunch. Okay. Have you done all the value of Valkyrie profile guy?
Starting point is 04:05:26 You know, no, I'm not a Valkyrie profile guy. I've learned about Valkyrie profile peripherally through a good old pal Schmup Godpat, who showed me some real cool shit. And I was like, damn, this was fucking sick. What a cool franchise that, you know, I would love to sit down and play if I had the time, but I didn't. But as a traditional RPG, that looked like some rad shit with great music characters and traditional like get into fight and then do some combos kind of mechanics.
Starting point is 04:06:01 It's beloved for a reason. That were, yeah, you know, it was awesome to see, like, especially when like people were looking at Indivisible for the first time and they're like, okay, I'm seeing some of the bones of like the classic good Valkyrie profile games in there, you know, you have a really fun set of characters that do wild shit and it's great. And that franchise, unfortunately, it seems just, you know, tried to live on but sputtered out and then, you know, Square did what it did. So now it's back and they've revealed a new one and they're willing to put like, I guess,
Starting point is 04:06:39 a budget behind the new release. And I suppose maybe the thinking was, what if we made a new Valkyrie game and we tried to capture some of what we did with near-automata? Because I feel like I see subpar near-automata-esque action when I look at this trailer. That's a really, that's a really, well, you are courageous. You're a bold and courageous man to give such benefits of the doubt. Like that is your hero. Because I see this action game and it's like, well, this is not what Valkyrie games usually
Starting point is 04:07:28 look like. So they're trying something else and it doesn't look like it's pulling that off. But I'm just thinking, I'm looking at some of these sequences and I'm wondering if they're like, this is where it'll be like 2B doing a big combo on a room full of enemies. We just did it, Platinum did it, we can do it again. Wow, that's, I don't even, like, some may look at Valkyrie pro, whatever this game, what is it called? Elysium.
Starting point is 04:08:05 Valkyrie Elysium and be like, they're going for an avant-garde, desaturated, pseudo-watercolor art style as previously seen in some games such as Near Automata. To me, I say, this looks like a slab of concrete served to me and told to me that it is bacon and eggs and to enjoy eating my concrete paste. It's, it's, it, okay. So some people disagree with me, but I feel very strongly about what I'm about to say, so get ready. The point of a trailer is to entice people about your product.
Starting point is 04:08:45 It is the best face forward, it is the job interview, it is the first handshake, it is the, the face of the game until the next one comes out, right? Mm-hmm. Trailers often include things that don't make it into the game or are charitably demonstrated compared to what's actually in the game and trailers tend to be a little bullshoddy, a little overdone, a little, what have you. In the Valkyrie Elysium trailer, there's a shot where the main character is kneeling while another character talks to her and for a full three seconds, her hair is going absolutely
Starting point is 04:09:31 crazy and glitching out with a physics bug. And this is a shot that made it into the trailer and somebody looked at that shot and either went, no, that's fine, who cares? Or didn't look at it closely enough before putting it in. That's the kind of care that I'm expecting from the rest of this project. And I think that's very fair because when I see games and their frame rates in their trailers are just falling the fuck apart. Guess what?
Starting point is 04:10:02 Those games come out with terrible fucking frame rates. So I'm looking at the trailer again right now and I'm standing by what I said in that you're looking at environments here where it's like, oh, here's the big outdoor area where they're going to do some moves that look again, pseudo near ish, but not quite the same oomph. And some of these castle textures, you're going through some large castle areas and you're fighting some larger monsters and it all looks again like pretty fucking dated. And then you get an up close look at the actual Valkyrie and the face looks very just again
Starting point is 04:10:49 not on point. I see this as I see the square looking at some of these enemies and some of these giant bosses they're fighting and some of the spells they're doing and some of the air combos they're pulling off and going, do the near thing we just did. I really I'm getting that vibe strongly watching it again right now. But just like, can you can you do it again though? And they're not they're not doing it, but I feel like that's part of what they asked them to do, you know, and as someone who has not played the previous Valkyrie games, I
Starting point is 04:11:24 must I have to say if it must feel real bad to be a fan of the franchise and be waiting this long. And I mean, it always is to get this as the answer, as opposed to just, you know, literally like a port plus some good music. I mean, a better news. So what I see when I look at the field Chronicles and I see Valkyrie, Elysium, I see. So FF 14 brought in X amount of dollars this month. What new projects can we throw this money away on again again?
Starting point is 04:12:03 Well, we had Bal and Wonderworld before. Hey, man, it's going to take a while. That was that was that was a good way to throw that away. Be quiet, man. Babylon's fall is going to be the loss leader for a while. Oh, yeah. That's a live service loss leader. Don't you get it twisted?
Starting point is 04:12:20 So like, so like straight up FF 14 makes a bunch of money and the money FF 14 has its budget, which is decided for it. And then Square Enix goes and goes, we can turn this money into smaller projects that are risky and whoever the fuck is in charge of that part of the process. Seems like they are the dumbest motherfucker in the game's business. Just pick after pick after pick after pick of complete garbage for like six or seven years. I'm looking at the timeline here.
Starting point is 04:13:02 And it's 1999 Valkyrie profile. 2006 Silmarilla 2008 Covenant of the Plume and then fucking silence 2016 mobile game and now Elysium. That's that's the timeline of beloved franchise from the 90s. Never never has a chance comes back as a half mobile thing. And then it continues to just disappoint. Like it's it's following to a T the tradition like that is the exact timeline of multiple franchise from that era.
Starting point is 04:13:38 And as an outsider, again, I feel like all they would really want is probably any of those previous games ported decently or something in that vein to just go, hey, this franchise still exists. We got information in here. Valkyrie Elysium is being made by Soleil, the developers of Shinobi strikers. Shinobi strikers. Samurai Jack and N'Jala. Oh, goodie.
Starting point is 04:14:15 Well, goodie. The interest in a Valkyrie game has been something that I know people have wanted for some time, but that's fucking. That that hurts from from a distance that fucking hurts. Well, at least Eugene knock is not getting a fucking free ride out of this one. I think I think I forget who was on my Twitter, but they pointed out that Balbalon's fall is so embarrassing that Square Enix isn't even trying to fake the user Metacritic score on that one.
Starting point is 04:14:55 Oh, they're all just the worst ever. Yeah, I saw a tweet about. Yeah, they don't. They're not even trying to fake it like they do with like God, Balan Wonder World. They paid a bunch of people who couldn't speak English at all to give Balan Wonder World a bunch of good reviews. I mean, it like the fact that, you know, Square Enix has a bunch of these titles and they're they're they're willing to go grab some and try others like, you know, the world
Starting point is 04:15:24 ends with you, for example. They like brought that back the other day and then didn't market it for shit. And then it didn't push it hard enough. Despite the fact it's like the niches thing in the world. But it bombed. But it seems but it seems like it's a pretty good game otherwise. Right. Yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 04:15:42 So yeah, like shit like that is happening and displaying a willingness to resurrect things that people love. You resurrect these fucking nuts. I mean, just again, start with the start with the basics of what people love about the thing, right? Start with the basics. Probably like one of the most baffling things to me is that Final Fantasy Tactics never got re-released.
Starting point is 04:16:13 It got re-released on like Android like 10 years ago or something and that version still works. And again, reminder, you're saying you're talking about you're ignoring the bad one that happened on PSP. Okay. I'm shocked that Final Fantasy Tactics War of the Lions never got re-released. Okay. Ever.
Starting point is 04:16:34 We're in a world where Capcom has sold Street Fighter 2 on every single platform to ever exist. But if you want to play Final Fantasy Tactics, you have to use a PS1 or PSP emulator. Like, that's weird. Because, yeah, I'm sure if you were to go ask them, they'd be like, oh, well, you know, we did. We put it on the fucking, put it on the handhelds, you know.
Starting point is 04:17:02 That was like 15 years ago. Yeah. Of course. Yeah, I know. Yeah. And then there's the shit that like is literally, well, I was going to say, you know, the shit that's never going anywhere like Chrono Cross, but here we are in this fucking weird new timeline that used to be the go-to for like grab a fucking PS1,
Starting point is 04:17:33 PS2 era RPG that's just never going anywhere from Square. And it's like, yeah, yeah, like fucking Chrono Cross. Oh my God, it's actually coming. Anyway, that was, that was pretty much it, you know, that's the state of play. And remember, what's really important is not the fact that it was a weird and confusing series of announcements, some of which didn't seem ready for their own announcements at all. What's really important is that when you were watching state of play, you were not reading
Starting point is 04:18:06 about how Sony is being sued for a sexual discrimination lawsuit by a bunch of women. That's what really matters. And that, did that come out afterwards? The timing on that was not suspicious at all. Cause I want to say it immediately followed up the announcements. Eight more are alleging sexual harassment and discrimination at Sony. Systematic limits on women's promotions, porn in the workplace, more. Yeah.
Starting point is 04:18:48 So there was an original lawsuit that was filed in November, 2021. But it seems that as this is building up with more workers coming out and filing complaints. Sony's on the, Sony's on the list. Exo Primal! What's that about the, the women's? Well, essentially, there was a, an initial complaint that was filed. Dio Field Chronicles! And many women have left.
Starting point is 04:19:44 And there's a group called the Sony's women in PlayStation group. Or at least 10 women left in four months from Sony's Rancho Bernardo office. Triwall Muncher! Is that, is that, that's what I'm going to call it. That's what I can't remember the real name. We're going with it. Okay. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
Starting point is 04:20:15 So, um, yeah, join in on the fun alongside fucking literally every other company. It's so, like this, I've been, I've been free enough on this stupid business since I was like seven. And it's like, it's so predictable every time. Like, oh God, how do you, how do you not become like such a terrible cynic? How is it even possible? Uh-oh. The, the secrets about the creepo's going to come out. I mean, if you pay somebody to put a bunch of horizon meme gifts on the Twitter.
Starting point is 04:21:03 To be perfectly honest, if you want the real answer to that question, it's consume the games the way that most of my friends do, which is play the thing that comes out on the box when it's out and not be paying attention to any of the industry stuff that we have been doing further. Yeah, I know. You're totally right. It's just like, when I'm watching State of Play the whole time I was watching it, I'm like, this isn't distracting me at all. This isn't good enough to distract me.
Starting point is 04:21:36 You want to get me distracted. You can show me Dragon's Togmer some shit. Exo Primal's not going to make me forget about this crap. Give me a fucking break. I see. Yeah. So, I mean, it's an ongoing thing. Not much else to report, but investigations are underway.
Starting point is 04:22:04 And Sony is a very fucking big company. And the bigger the company, the longer these stories go, because the more people join in to go, yeah, some shit's going down. You know what the opposite of this shit is? It's the funniest thing in the world. But I also feel like kind of bad for anybody whose job it is to market that fucking Hogwarts game. Oh, yeah. Because every, because they set up.
Starting point is 04:22:32 Hey, we're going to show off the game plan, the Hogwarts game in like three, two, one. JK's coming out swinging. Here she comes. She's going to say something fucked up. Remind you that Harry Potter is written by a psycho. Auntie JK coming out for Christmas dinner. Yeah. The other way to go with it was that like, the other way to go with it was like Microsoft,
Starting point is 04:23:03 seemingly in the clear on their own, have now acquired a giant group of abusers under their purchase. Sony, not to be outdone, of course, has to match speed. Oh, yeah, 100%. Yeah. And expose their own internal issues, because you got to keep the competition high. Keep your enemies close. Oh, it's great. I love it.
Starting point is 04:23:30 Yep. It's just like, I can just, I just see it like a two person office at some marketing firm and like just boop. Oh, what's that on my phone? Oh, God, again. God, we already set the game place Thursday. We can't do it. Fuck.
Starting point is 04:23:47 Fuck. How do we distance this? How do we? It's done. Oh, God. I mean, the truth ultimately is that like this is going to exist at every single office where there are more than two employees, but even then guarantees because the people don't know how to act and they also have jobs and this is going to be a thing.
Starting point is 04:24:19 And in some cases people get, you know, quieted down. And in some cases they don't, but it's wild because JK is in an office of one and still hit that. Damn. Hit it. Yeah, I just realized, you know, JK rallying and overwatch are like the same thing. Go on. Hey, you seem like an asshole.
Starting point is 04:24:57 Hermione was black all along and the new, this new overwatch characters gay. I promise the whole time was the whole time. Sort of. But JK is way more full of shit because she'll use like legitimate trauma from her life to then shit on trans people and try to make that an equivalency, which on a corporate level is pretty difficult to do. So I'm going to say one of the people, but on the other hand, some of the people doing those story revisions of Blizzard are rapists.
Starting point is 04:25:45 Well, there's that. So it all comes out in the wash. Oh, no. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Way.
Starting point is 04:25:59 Oh, allegedly. Oh boy. On the one hand, JK on the other hand, his name is McGraw now. Quick shot fucking cowboy. Cowboy. Cassidy. Cassidy. Cassidy.
Starting point is 04:26:21 Cassidy. Cowboy. His name is Cassidy now. All right, look, everything sucks. All right. Yeah, we're doing it. Look, look, look, hold on. No, no, look, good things.
Starting point is 04:26:39 Square Enix has announced a music channel where all their music for all their games can be listened to. Isn't that awesome? Isn't that exciting? Aren't you super excited for that? Is that super cool? Is that super cool? So a company like Square Enix that has like insanely weird rules about the way their music
Starting point is 04:26:59 is sold and listened to and how difficult it's actually to get a lot of those albums, that is actually like useful if I actually want to go listen to track. Oh, it's for fucking copyright strikes, isn't it? What the fuck are you doing, Pat? How long have you been on this job? What is wrong with you? Oh, it's like insane. They don't understand, and everyone's been so excited about it.
Starting point is 04:27:23 And I'm like, sorry to be the bearer of bad news, and this probably doesn't affect you. But guess what? When a company like Square Enix gets their entire music library and shoves it on YouTube, you think it's for your ease of listening? It's to make our jobs fucking harder. It's to make sure that everything is now listed inside of the YouTube copyright content ID system and everything I upload, including the ongoing Final Fantasy 6, might now be a problem the moment it hears all music from all Square Games.
Starting point is 04:27:55 It's a database recognition upload. It has nothing to do with making your lives easier. Who the fuck? Don't fall for that shit. I was just frustrated because it's really hard to get a hold of the FF14. Yeah, no. Some of that music. No, they're not your friends, man.
Starting point is 04:28:14 This is a copyright ID upload so that they have a cross-reference to fuck over everything you do in the future. I mean, it's bad enough when some stupid fucking band from some other country pretends to own the song and then claims it themselves because they used a sample in their music video and now everything belongs to them. So they steal money too. But in this case, this is a mass upload of if you're going to copy, if you're going to upload anything Square related, hope you're ready to have a conflict on your channel.
Starting point is 04:28:47 Hope your video is ready to potentially do a share. I haven't noticed any new content ID claims. Hopefully so. It's going to take a while. Make no mistake, anything you feed onto YouTube is immediately verified against existing copyright ID and then also becomes usable as a weapon to the uploader. So I've seen many videos where I can go in, find people who are using or playing things I've played and go, oh, do you want to flag that person for playing that game or for using this clip?
Starting point is 04:29:19 And I go, no, fuck that. Or do a revenue share or whatever the case is. Make no mistakes. Square is about to do that. This is not a benevolent upload. And I'm glad everyone else is like, yay. Because for most people that are not fucking content ID, content creators, it's a useful thing to just be like, yay, big channel, all the music,
Starting point is 04:29:41 but this fucking sucks for what we do. All right. But hey, that's nice. The next time you get into an internet argument with a couple of X bots that don't know when to shut the fuck up, all you got to do to prove how fucking smart you are is tweet out a photo of you live in surgery because you're a surgeon and you know what you're talking about and they don't. And that's how you win a console war argument. I think that guy got fired.
Starting point is 04:30:26 Because the hell... Yeah, I think so. That's guaranteed now practice. So for those of you who haven't seen it, literally from PS Vortex on Twitter, here I am inducing anesthesia, intubating and putting a patient on controlled mechanical ventilation for a laparoscopic colostectomy case in QR, slandering my identity profession because you Xbox can't argue facts. Saving lives is my job.
Starting point is 04:31:02 Console wars are my hobby. Oh, man. Well, he did own them. He did own them while he for that one minute. God bless. You know, like he nuked his entire career, which takes fucking years of his life to become from his practice to win the point. And you know what?
Starting point is 04:31:30 To him might be worth it. God bless. God damn it. That's a lawsuit waiting to happen for real. I mean, whoever was inside, whoever was under the anesthesia, at that point, they better love Sony a lot. Well, if they pop out and just go like. Yeah.
Starting point is 04:31:58 Life. Malpractice. Yeah. Yeah. All right. And last little bit here. Just a bit of a wild one, but the evil 2022 lineup was announced. Pretty predictable all the way around with two exceptions.
Starting point is 04:32:16 One Skull Girls is in. Woo. So yay on that. Shout outs to Sharpie for getting to announce that. Very exciting. It seems like they're going to do a make good because last time was supposed to be the Skull Girls time to shine. And then things didn't shine too well.
Starting point is 04:32:36 So this time around, we're going to finally own up to it. And that's nice because of the completely unfair shafting. The last back when, you know, it first came out. We've told the story before, but they were told Skull Girls is too new for being a six month old game at the time. And then a cross tag battle with two months from Evo was then able to get in. Not to mention Sam's show, which was not out yet, but was still able to get in. And everyone went what the action.
Starting point is 04:33:04 I wonder how they'll screw them this time. So that's nice that that's happening. Skull Girls fucking fuck. Yeah. The choice that's making everyone super confused is Grand Blue Fantasy versus being on that list because that game fucking died the moment it didn't have rollback and the pandemic started. I'm not confused.
Starting point is 04:33:26 Yeah. So I games money. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. Of course. But in terms of shit people play, that's a people will show up if there's a pot for
Starting point is 04:33:41 it. Blow the dust off, you know, but but how are you going to play locally? Like what are you going to do? You know, there are no locals. There is no game. Everyone completely dusted it and moved on because yeah, it seemed dried the fuck up when there was no decent rollback on it. Taking that energy to DNF dual.
Starting point is 04:34:02 You know what? I have an I have an idea for fighting game tournament. I would love to see you announced that you're going to go to the tournament one year in advance. One that when the game comes out and then you are not allowed to play other people. You only can play single player right up until you go to the tournament. I am so confused. Then you'll see who the real best is.
Starting point is 04:34:28 Oh, so you want to learn it all the fly. You want to stop champion first best of seven rounds one game. Score attack. Yeah. Best wins the tournament. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 04:34:45 Yeah. Yeah. Game stop street fighter for champion. Absolutely. Winner. You had do it. Yeah. Million dollars on the line.
Starting point is 04:34:53 I follow. I do it. I follow. Do it. Including that one lying asshole that we used to know. Oh, yeah. Game stop champ. Hey, so shout outs to skull girls and big question marks to side games money.
Starting point is 04:35:15 Other games could have gotten that spot. But what are you going to do? Right? The slots are still buyable is what this says to me. That's how they're going to screw over skull girls. Skull girls is going to get their grand finals cut off so they could start the fucking Grand Blue fantasy pools revealed reveal trailer for a new character that came in and deleted the rollback that we were thinking of putting in.
Starting point is 04:35:39 That's wild. If you've got a letter, you can send it over to Castle Super Beast Mail at gmail.com. That's true. That's Castle Super Beast Mail at gmail.com. Let's take one over here from Faustus says Dear Supermine Goblin Pat, who also has my goblins woolly long time listener blah blah. I was scrolling through my steam inventory saw some sale coupons for unheard of games. Being a long time steam user 99 times out of 10.
Starting point is 04:36:17 They're linked to terrible borderline criminal games no matter what the sale. But for a giggle, I looked into a game named trivia vault mixed media mixed mini trivia three. It has a series of mixed reviews and a precursory yielded that all the negative reviews were copy shovel where paste that don't even work. The shocking thing is that 100% of all positive reviews will claim that you get 5000 plus achievements on installation alone. And that's its only purpose for hardcore hunters to get an easy to pay achievement boost.
Starting point is 04:36:54 This is just the tip of the iceberg as you can purchase well over 60 of these instant gratification scams in a bundle. The math alone of the number of achievements you can get a staggering to say the least. So I guess if I had a question is has anyone have you known of anything with such as profoundly nonsensical addiction? Yeah. So basically the idea here being there are steam games that exist that are pieces of shit just to add achievements to your fucking score.
Starting point is 04:37:24 I've told the story about the people that used to work with that would divide their game time into achievements per night and how many they could get in a given night. A game was not able to get a certain amount of gamer score per night. It was not worth playing at all no matter how good or bad whatever that game might be. And the games that were bad but gave you the gamer score quickly were high value high profile and those were a shared amongst the achievement communities about which games to go after and what to play and why it's it's like borderline destructive to the industry. If like this gets embraced as a thing.
Starting point is 04:38:04 Thankfully it's so insane that it's still a minority and only the craziest. It's only for the craziest of addicts that I'll go find it. So it's not a huge worry in that regard but I am worried absolutely about the increased stress being put on extrinsic value in games like this that are a fucking waste of everyone's time. Nobody cares the game doesn't even have to be a game just by the achievement points. Just why not make it that at that point you know and yeah it's for the crazies. I don't know what you can say. Steam should probably have some kind of fucking policy for that shit.
Starting point is 04:38:48 Yeah they should have a lot of things. Here's one from Ryan from Burlington says hello tiny rage goblin and oh good old be town. Tiny rage goblin of unpleasant logic and dreaded fog of lost memories. Hey man I've been to Burlington that is a fog of lost memories that mall Jesus damn damn I've been to Burlington too. Big fan since the beginning you got me into a lot of cool shit that I never would have checked out on my own. Something that always bothered me though is whenever woolly starts talking about gungrave. It's not Harry McDougal. It's Harry McDowell.
Starting point is 04:39:29 Will he never once said it right at least as far on the podcast as I've gotten. And it bothers me because gungrave needs more ground swell so that we can get Brandon heat versus Kazama Kiryu in death battle. Keep it up shit lords. All right Ryan. Wow you're such a big gungrave fan too. Let me break it down this way. What's likely happening here. No confirmation I might just be a big dumb idiot who got it wrong forever.
Starting point is 04:39:54 But I suspect that what I'm seeing is someone who caught it dubbed in English where they probably said Harry McDowell because that's what it's written out as and that's what it would be in the script. When I was watching it it was subbed week of release every episode as it was coming out live in Japan and the way that it was pronounced in Japanese was Harry McDougal. And that was a big old joke with especially that and Brandon heat and all that shit was hilarious but that's what we would hear all the characters say in dub in sub brother. So I'm suspecting that upon it getting dubbed it was it was pronounced correctly as McDougal but I never heard that since I was watching it in original Japanese probably. I suspect that people should go watch an episode of gungrave and find out if you're completely full of shit or not. Yeah maybe. I don't know. But only watch the episodes of gungrave that have the cowboy zombie not that boring mafia shit.
Starting point is 04:41:04 No but the cowboy zombies not going to be talking about Harry at that point. You have to watch the. No I just I just wanted to say it. Okay. Yeah no so you know that was 20 years ago. My memory of the character from 20 years ago was in the way that it was said in Japanese is that goofy ass way. I gotta say Willie the way that you describe gungrave caused me to stop watching gungrave. That's all right.
Starting point is 04:41:35 I hate it. I didn't know you started. I was watching gungrave. I was watching like and I was like three episodes in and you started fucking ranting about how like you yeah there's this cowboy zombie shit but like in the middle it's like all this incredible fucking mob story and like that's most thing and then you go back to that stupid cowboy zombie shit. I'm like oh cool I can stop watching right now because it's never going to be good again. Yeah I liked I liked the mafia shit in the middle a lot. I still do.
Starting point is 04:42:11 I still enjoy it even and then later when it's half and half I'm like yeah that's fine. Like some dudes from the mafia era like bungee are just cool enough that like even in the zombie era they still maintain their cool. Yeah. But yeah so I'm going to I'm going to guess that's that's probably what's happening here. You know I'm reminded of the other pronunciation things with Naruto and Akatsuki and whatever is said in the dub that I've never heard so I was like saying it the way I was hearing it in Japanese at the time. Maybe. Hey. I have I can have my revenge on Willie for her for making me sad because I'm so stupid about that scurrying ex music thing.
Starting point is 04:43:11 Breaking news. Beep Beep Beep Beep Beep Beep Beep Beep. Atlas West releases persona for arena ultimax streaming guidelines. Please don't stream or record video before release. Don't do it. Here's the release times. But also if you're planning a live stream here posting your gameplay please avoid major story spoilers in your video thumbnails titles and descriptions and include a spoiler warning. Please don't spoil the fun for players who might be experiencing the game for the first time about the fighting game that has characters on its roster that are fucking massive spoilers for the prior games that you put this same announcement out for.
Starting point is 04:44:04 I'm sorry I didn't hear any of that. What? What did I miss? Yeah. Huh? Don't don't spoil persona games by streaming ultimax. Don't spoil it. Okay.
Starting point is 04:44:22 I uh. Let me just. So woolly when you're playing as culprit. Okay or or the the the redheaded kid. Don't talk about their story. Don't do it. Don't mention it. Don't spoil unless you put it.
Starting point is 04:44:42 Don't you put a fucking. Don't don't spoil P4. No. No you can spoil P4 now unless you're doing a P4 stream. Don't spoil story mode of P4 you. Yeah. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 04:45:01 So when you're playing a shadow of labyrinth shut up I guess. That's. That's this one. Okay. Okay. Shut up I guess. That's. That's this one.
Starting point is 04:45:18 No. Don't stop it. Don't stop it. Don't look at the pillow. You're not allowed to look at the pillow. God it's like. It's so stupid. It's it's it's.
Starting point is 04:45:35 It's not even a new game. It's not even a new game. It's a fucking port. Of an old game. It's it. It also has a story mode for P4 a which was the original release which is a whole other story mind you different from the Ultimax one.
Starting point is 04:46:02 With the fucking my own act arena. Shit. Oh my God. The the at the Atlas shit is is is the dinosaurist of all. And and and talking with Ultimax and culprit specifically is the stupidest version of them all by far right. The dumbest. The see culprit on screen for one second a character of which
Starting point is 04:46:34 by the way we have taken more care in dealing with than any of the games original trailers for that character just out of courtesy because the game is good and worth not getting spoiled on that mind you absolutely like and you know what it's paid off because like even shit like even because of the way we've tiptoed for years punch moms was able to enjoy the game years later. Yeah and also there's no reason to say anything other than
Starting point is 04:47:03 culprit because everyone gets it anyway and people who don't don't. So yeah. That's great. It's good. This is good. Love those guidelines. Love those Atlas guidelines.
Starting point is 04:47:18 Always always smart and always released while we're live. Have you noticed the last three every time we're always always every time every time every time and there was once where it was right after we were done before we hung up and it was it was something anyway something like like oh my God man anyway. So you know if you happen to think for a second that Atlas might have started liking money.
Starting point is 04:47:54 Don't don't don't get it twisted. They still fucking hate it. They hate coverage. They hate it so much. Stop talking about it. Oh my God. All right. All right.
Starting point is 04:48:08 We'll catch you next week. Oh I had I had one more question. Oh you had another one. Well it was someone like a 30. I'm hungry. OK. Do it fast. No it's just to let you know about the e-bussy.
Starting point is 04:48:22 We got to go. What about the e-bussy. I thought the e-bussy was gone. We got to go out on it. Had. Hey Pat and woolly your conversation about the e-bussy reminded me of my previous job where I worked at a large logistics company in the U.S. as an engineer.
Starting point is 04:48:35 The naming conventions had me losing my shit constantly. There's no way someone in corporate didn't know what they're doing but I don't know. Let me list a few ones. Trucks had to leave before a certain time. Those were called hot loads. The carts that card carried extra large packages were branded with their company nutting.
Starting point is 04:48:55 The large boxes that held a lot of smaller packages were called gay lords. Trying to talk about these things in a big business men that were in charge conversation with a straight face was one of the most difficult things I've ever had to do in my professional life. Yes sir the hot load in area four had a gay load gay lord explode.
Starting point is 04:49:14 It cost us about a thousand dollars. I'll speak to the area manager about this and see what corrective action can take place. Oh you're right. You're right to read that email. Oh man. Nutting hot loads. All right.
Starting point is 04:49:39 OK. Somebody knew what they were doing. Somebody was having a laugh. All right. There we go. There's no way. There's no way. Oh.
Starting point is 04:49:49 Out on that. Yep. Bye.

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