Castle Super Beast - CSB 207: Capcom Cup X: Millionaire Fighting 2023

Episode Date: February 21, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 May members of the community serve! May them realize who they are I've decided to become a pro fighting game player have you has anything huh interesting what pray tell oh is it is it just because you've found you've discovered your your nascent love of the genre that's oh is it is it the
Starting point is 00:00:56 the competitive spirit and camaraderie that comes with the journey of the fighter fuck no is it a life-changing amount of money is it a life-changing amount of money promised to first place of Street Fighter 6 Capcom Cup yeah yeah dollars well do you think you can beat men are D you think you can beat
Starting point is 00:01:27 item I saw a tweet earlier today that made me laugh really hard which was hey guys everyone's getting excited for the million dollar but it's going to be some queer 18 year old who has unlimited time or to keto yes and yes money yes and yes absolutely that is you make no mistake you are debuffed if you're not
Starting point is 00:01:57 already yes if you're already won a championship no fuck me then are you are you to keto no you're not okay I hope you like fursuits you should start wearing one now it's your best shot I'm sure I can find one in the house but I don't want to wear it if you if you can get yourself a fursuit and then modify it
Starting point is 00:02:22 so that you can play on stick you will be good yeah no this is this is so here's the thing about that a lot of speculation and such but there's what's here's what's notable right one if you look at the prize pool for one million dollars for first place it's not the thing where games have announced big
Starting point is 00:02:46 numbers and said that's the total amount to be split by top eight right because you'll see sometimes they'll be like here's like you know 500k or something crazy and then it'll are less than that usually much less but and then it'll be split across the entire top eight this is one million to the winner and one
Starting point is 00:03:04 point two million to be split first second through seventh place that is seventh place is walking home with a new car walking home with what would be the wins of a major in any other circumstances right it's like huh should I should I grind to get number one at Grandblue or should I hope to just get
Starting point is 00:03:29 seven through five yeah Street Fighter six so you know why all this noise about millions now well if you well for one thing again a life-changing amount of money probably you know post-tax you'll see what that those numbers turn into but still is that is fucking exciting for people to just be like you're buying the
Starting point is 00:03:53 interest of the highest skilled players when you put that kind of like money out right other genres do this and of course you know anything league or or Dota related or FPS is like you will buy the interest of teams that like will play for the payout regardless of how they feel about the game
Starting point is 00:04:13 the best part about this is the joke about the first suit right so page and I saw that last night I was scrolling through Twitter on on the on the TV right and I went a million dollars and she went a million dollars and I went wow that's that's enough that people who don't give a shit about Street Fighter
Starting point is 00:04:33 gonna jump in like Sonic Fox and then she pulled out her phone and went three minutes ago Sonic Fox a million dollars exactly exactly right like just that's that's the goal right but the other thing is if you're playing proper Capcom fucking chess right here it's real straightforward see who's about to enter
Starting point is 00:04:57 the market fucking project L is riot is about to drop their fighting game they're about to drop all the characters that people know and love and recognize and all that all that is going to be disruptive as fuck and like the the current mantle is held by strife strife is is carrying the FGC right now
Starting point is 00:05:20 and we just said goodbye to Street Fighter 5 last night right so it's gonna be up for grabs and six is looking like a contender but you never know how fucking sick project L might be they it might be like pretty fucking good but then riot will come in and just put riot money on top of that and go well
Starting point is 00:05:45 we're gonna buy your interests right with the prize pools because riot prize pools usually they're used to those kinds of numbers if they go that way Capcom doesn't want their thunder getting stolen so why not head it off at the pass and immediately say no no no no our new game is gonna be hyping
Starting point is 00:06:03 all but we're already gonna put out numbers that are gonna match whatever riot is probably gonna do you know on top of that of course six is big six is gonna be it's gonna be the big impact but they need to like step it to this level before riot gets a chance to so I did some quick digging league of
Starting point is 00:06:26 legends worlds 2002 the 12th annual World Champ ran from September to November prize pool started at 2.23 million however it was topped up from a percentage of in-game sales so like riot runs multi-million dollar tournaments for league yep and they have a really really good I think Dota
Starting point is 00:06:50 has a very similar like idea for cash in where they go hey motherfuckers you want to buy the the fancy championship bullshit you know like like Capcom would have had the the stages like they did yeah they sold the stages and all efforts percentage of this goes straight into the pool mm-hmm and that
Starting point is 00:07:09 makes the pool bigger and bigger and bigger yeah in this case though I mean I imagine project L is gonna come out and still have to prove itself so they might not give it like that starting amount certainly but it's it's it's again it's buying the interest you know um now has a guaranteed foot in the
Starting point is 00:07:33 door of like the games free and you can win things by playing right mom if I get really good at Darius anti-airs I could win a new us a new house you can you can um yeah man that's a fucking crazy exciting thing also um I have to I just saw a little tweet about it I didn't read the full details but this is an
Starting point is 00:07:59 excellent time for Tokido momochi and a number of notable Japanese players to form the players association in Japan which is hopefully a group that will fight back against the garbage Japanese e-sports Jezu sort of clauses and all that stuff for those who don't remember last time I didn't hear about it
Starting point is 00:08:26 basically e-sports was not a thing in Japan for a long time and it was kind of held back by like government rules about like gambling in competition yada yada you can't win prize money unless someone gets to wet their beaks so a private company out of nowhere not a government organization just funneled money together
Starting point is 00:08:48 and said we are going to be the ones who will pay out the players and we will be the ones who determine are what cut we get of every prize that's won and everyone that wants to win money has to register and be a part of us as we're the company that that pays out players it's always been a very interesting
Starting point is 00:09:12 situation where you're like that's weird all these Japanese players are like non-stop traveling to the US for major tournaments like over and over and over and over and over like I don't I hear less about like Japanese players in Japanese tournaments than I do American ones well wonder it's because they can't
Starting point is 00:09:34 win any money at home I mean so that that is certainly a part of it that has become emergent as the the numbers have grown over the years but also it's definitely too about the fact that like Japanese players for a long time just were on another level and it was like free pickings you know every time
Starting point is 00:09:53 someone flew over I mean classic that one of the classic moments is like Fudo who like basically comes along fucking starts dominating and can easily just say I don't even play this game I play virtual fighter you know like like it just kind of looked like North America was free easy money for it's
Starting point is 00:10:11 definitely no money in virtual yeah you know this but it's just like yeah get on a plane come get it come come get a pay out and and and you're good you know so anyways Japan has some bullshit laws that make it hard for players to win money over there competitively and there they they just kind of announced that
Starting point is 00:10:29 there's a player association because Momoshi held out for a long time I remember too because of like like it's a key if you win a tournament but you're not part of this fucking scam group then technically you can't get paid and uh oh what's going to happen with the money you know and he stood on principle for a
Starting point is 00:10:47 while there so I don't know what the outcome is but I hope that this is perfect in time for the the massive announcements like this because you bet that scam companies like jesu are gonna want to steal as much as they can of a big pot price like that you know yeah also shout outs to Momoshi as well on
Starting point is 00:11:10 another level for recently attempting to compete as 11 in Street Fighter 5 who I don't know if you remember but 11 was announced as one of the the newer characters that is essentially everybody it's a random select exactly so there were like a number of like streams or it's like oh get first to 11 with with
Starting point is 00:11:32 11 and whatnot and and yeah I think counterpick this I think he did a 41 win streak with just straight up random select level so crazy anyways um yeah one million dollars finger pinky up to get to get top top placement at six so I so maybe I'm crazy because I don't run tournaments and I don't have a lot of
Starting point is 00:11:58 experience with tournaments but like so the the million the two million or two point two minute whatever it happens to be right that's going to be divided nearly entirely among what the top eight top 10 top 16 it got top eight top eight you know okay I think they should they should keep a million dollars at number
Starting point is 00:12:16 one I think they should shave off a little bit just a little bit from guys two through eight and I think they should in they should expand the bottom small payouts massively okay yeah so you're talking like top 32 payouts for example I say every did you get top 128 here's 50 bucks some events do things like that
Starting point is 00:12:47 I've heard of this before um I don't know that they go as far as 128 but I do know there are events that are dead that do things like top 16 payout or top 32 play out it's a payout and so that's not unheard of rules here's cab fare mm-hmm mm-hmm a lot of the time fair yeah fair but here's your cab back to your
Starting point is 00:13:09 hotel I mean the drowning in pools shouldn't earn a payout I'm gonna put my foot down on that drowning in pools doesn't should not earn a payout but that drowning in pools should earn a pay in are you pay extra for losing you yeah okay okay okay I see yeah so um you know usually when you do top three
Starting point is 00:13:33 payouts you do there's people that break it down like 70 20 10 you know some that's a typical standard if you're going top eight payouts you're probably gonna go 50 20 13 7 3 2 that makes sense yeah yeah so you can expect half a mill to go to second place based on these numbers and then you just scale it
Starting point is 00:13:56 down from there I I I the idea of like top 32 payouts and shit like that is fucking it's that's a super cool idea I'm super down with that it's way more encouraging it's just positive overall top-heavy stacks are like hype for people that are competing in that way but it's also like more community
Starting point is 00:14:19 oriented and friendly if people are just like okay you got in the money you got something you worked fucking hard you know just I feel for the person there's always a cutoff right mm-hmm that let's say 10 or 20 oh yeah yeah we're like one more match you would have walked away with 10 grand but instead you walk away
Starting point is 00:14:41 with your balls right yeah what I think is you they should do the community pool as well right have that running alongside and that though none of that money goes to any of the competitors there the community pool money goes towards the meme fund for the winner of the Kronenberg freak pic story mode tournament
Starting point is 00:15:07 which which should run alongside the main event take your weirdo fucking create a character fighters and make them as busted as possible and jump into a bracket and you get to win the stupid meme bucks get your bison dollars that's what I want um yeah that's that's that's the that's a
Starting point is 00:15:30 big one a million dollars that's a big hope they have so this is gonna be Capcom Cup specifically right yes Capcom Cup 10 how so the seating for Capcom Cup is resultant of other tournaments right other tournament placement for the other tournaments become Capcom CPT qualifiers and then there's usually two or one
Starting point is 00:15:57 last chance qualifier that occurs the week of the final bracket where you can get in at the last second yes there's an open bracket last chance everybody running a capcom seating point qualification eligible tournament as well as capcom themselves running the last chance qualifier are ready for a big
Starting point is 00:16:23 motherfucking influx of people they have been because I so Capcom Cup stepping in to kind of like be its own major final street fighter event for the longest while it's always been evo so when I remember when that happened I was like okay I guess you know other games have done this before let's see
Starting point is 00:16:46 how it goes they've the seat the capcom finals have been week-long events this like it ended yesterday it's been running all week yeah you know they'll do two days of last chance qualifiers and then start the bracket and it'll be ours and it is so much street fighter more than I'm you know gonna follow or
Starting point is 00:17:10 keep up with was this five days this time it was five days of fucking street fire it was crazy ready for so for six to eight next year it's a it's a lot it's more than I than I'd like you know and I say this as you you know I went to a tournament this weekend like I went you know and and yeah these capcom
Starting point is 00:17:32 cup things are they're just there's more street fighter than you could ever want to watch but it's gonna be big it's gonna be big yes this weekend there might be one issue with this the the popular there must at some point there must be some change to the way these tournaments work because you can't have people given
Starting point is 00:17:58 the chance of listen you need to fly down to what is Vegas I mean I mean capcom cup uh it was not LA and I forget what ever right whatever it's fly down America major American city that'll take a day right fight in the tournament for a full calendar week fly back it's like I hope you have like the assumption
Starting point is 00:18:27 can't be unless you're willing to quit your job you cannot fight in this tournament yeah it like there needs to be some kind of time or stipend or or something it's like it's it's it is tricky but I there's not much else way to really do it I guess unless you just run it faster
Starting point is 00:18:51 Evo is kind of miraculous in that the level of organization that goes in makes it so that no matter how the numbers scale up in terms of participation you will still be at top eight on Sunday right no matter what we're gonna start on Friday we're gonna end on Sunday and every time there's
Starting point is 00:19:13 been a maybe we can start on Thursday nope they keep it to a weekend and they just run and expand horizontally as needed you know we need to go do we need to go till tomorrow yes now it definitely has resulted in like yo you might have 8 a.m. pools right this is the trade-off when we have like thousands of people
Starting point is 00:19:35 entering an open bracket but there is a day that the fact that you get it done in a weekend no matter what is fucking sick I love that impressive so I would want to see something like that maintained I don't I don't want to see more days added on to the the pools you know if needed or so but people who are
Starting point is 00:19:56 kind of committing to that life of traveling and or you know participating like you're in a way you're talking to a there's a there's an FGC that is like a local FGC for every city and area and then there's a backpacking FGC you know and they just like yo see you next weekend here or there right you know
Starting point is 00:20:15 this weekend like Lord night is like a top player that's you know been around and comes up to Montreal usually was in town for for the event this weekend as well like backpacking players are just going to make it out one way or the other and at that point they usually have situations set up where it's like
Starting point is 00:20:33 okay and I'm working a job where it might be understandable if time to time I have to go disappear because there's a fucking European stunfest event that I got to go check out that's going to pay out sick money so I'm going to that you know it's it's it's a part of the sacrifice of the life I'm just oh my
Starting point is 00:20:54 brain just I can just imagine somebody being handed a gigantic novelty check on stage and I mean it's still the FGC who knows what you behind the novelty check just it just rips open and the ghost of Marvel rises again yeah I mean God just that moment there was discussion about it as like what are like the most
Starting point is 00:21:23 iconic photos of the FGC and like that one was was highly was talked about because it's like like even no man like mental illness aside there's something really fucking just real like real street about it yeah you're nice at Marvel that ain't bad but see me first to fucking five if you really want to
Starting point is 00:21:48 be the champ you know there's something like some guy can just be like yeah okay that's cool but I just put the money on top the TV sit your ass down let's play literally who are you how did you get through security there's a romantic appeal yes the romantic in the classical sense of the word aspect of
Starting point is 00:22:07 that some rando walks out of the crowd and challenges you and you and you know like no I don't know that um any other sport anywhere has that I don't think there's any other game or or sporting event where it's like I just walk out of the crowd and I'm like nah I'm coming for you though champ yeah the
Starting point is 00:22:31 Super Bowl winners are parading around with their rings and like ten guys just a bird from the stands go you guys are so good right boys could take you so you know what that is that's that's actually old wrestling right like professional wrestling back in the day the kind that like fucking Abe Lincoln
Starting point is 00:22:49 was doing you know where it's like yeah I'm I'm a do a big show match but before that anyone in the crowd that wants some come get it I'll beat you down for real and then we'll go back to our spots and do some k-fabe you know this reminds me somebody mentions pool and darts I have a story from this weekend so I text my
Starting point is 00:23:14 father hey dad just checking want to be sure because mom's birthday is tomorrow right and my dad text back why e s no period nothing just flat right okay that was easy is he like see like upset that like I had to ask but I want to make sure right mm-hmm so I'm streaming later in the day and he texts me again hey sorry
Starting point is 00:23:50 for the short message earlier was busy winning the pool tournament and then I call him afterwards and go I you told me they don't let you play and he goes no I just can't win any money anymore I still go down there they just give the money to the guy in second place they just they just banned him from winning cash
Starting point is 00:24:17 money that's amazing wow okay okay that's the level interesting interesting as he goes down there every week and does the tournament every week and he wins about 50 percent of them and then the other 50 percent it's you know 10 other guys that's fucking they said you can play here but you can't win any more
Starting point is 00:24:41 money that's it we're done we're done paying out yeah yeah that's hilarious because I was just talking about how the hometown heroes in the games that we that we play there's always a moment where they win one too many locals and everyone kind of turns on them right and the person who leave there's you need to
Starting point is 00:25:05 go right town there's a moment where you know it's like oh yo Henry is so sick shoutouts chai rithy right and then at a certain point it's like we just show up every Tuesday and put money in his pocket and that's all we're doing here right what the fuck and then it kind of have a job we're just subsidizing his
Starting point is 00:25:25 income literally and then it just becomes a like okay now we're cheering for second place right and then like it becomes and then like that's where like all the hype goes and when and when like the usual when the usual player wins you kind of everyone just kind of goes ah you know and it's just inverts the
Starting point is 00:25:43 instant the show goes on the road yes yes the moment you are representing your location versus America for example you scream MTL to your to your fucking throat is rat horse yeah hey I think Sonic Fox is fucking great I think they're fucking cool and hilarious if I'm gonna you know waste my life watching
Starting point is 00:26:05 a Mortal Kombat tournament I'm not gonna root for Sonic Fox it's like rooting for the sun to come up in the fucking morning I don't know who the second guy is but maybe maybe at the same time too though like the the landscape has changed because a lot of what I'm describing is the way things used to be nowadays
Starting point is 00:26:25 there's a lot more online warriors that are just coming out of nowhere on their own and like the best in the world like showing up that okay so for example one of the best one of the best Guilty Gear Strive players is test your luck who plays Naggo and yeah really and just happens to be some dude from Montreal
Starting point is 00:26:48 just hanging around coming from online and you know just like you you you're able to get that momentum going and then you can just be like without like you're not coming from the the the local scene necessarily you're just you do your online events you play enough and then you get your experience that way a lot
Starting point is 00:27:08 of the best players recently have been like coming from that and so it kind of creates a more like individualized kind of culture you know so the the the vibes of like Toronto versus Montreal for example from back in the day those are more or less gone it's now it's kind of like are you a fan of this player or
Starting point is 00:27:31 that player or that player individually you know a really great example that actually made its way to me was a unknown gentleman named Zen coming abroad from China to play his first tournament abroad in the last chance qualifier and sweeping everyone all the way through in winners bracket
Starting point is 00:27:55 hmm I mean heard of this guy and no one else has because he's a new guy there's dude so there's always the unknown the unknown god killers that show up the unknown like secret players that like are always a random threat and they become the most hype right gamer be started out as that one fucking random
Starting point is 00:28:20 a add-on player what where did that come from why is it so good yeah yeah you know like there's always that little that little that little story man of course we talked about Pakistan you know but it's super fucking cleaned when you get the complete unknown story yeah ending Walker ed fucking ed players coming out
Starting point is 00:28:43 like that is it's super hyped you know with the the unexplored not just of the unknown player but like the unknown tech of like an obscure character pick you know which is why I always go back we whenever me and read your laugh about it we just go back to like jury from Alaska it's like yo did you know that there's an
Starting point is 00:29:03 Alaskan jury that's fucking sick you know who beat you in pools yeah Alaskan jury really damn what are they doing up there grind it out fucking the Tandon engines apparently um yeah no man it's it's always a fucking it's always a trip when you get the little backstory of someone who I think is a new name there's
Starting point is 00:29:27 by the way to my wife if she's watching the podcast stop watching the podcast for five minutes because I'm gonna spoil the movie will he ever seen Rocky to not yet not yet oh well shit never mind I was gonna use an example of that but I've heard I've heard everything about it mimetically so I probably already know
Starting point is 00:29:49 but you know so we live so that get that movie came out in 79 and the crux of the plan to beat Apollo Creed is hey man this guy's a better boxer than you but you're a southpaw and he's expecting to fight a southpaw so we're gonna teach you to box right-handed so that in the middle of the boxing match you can go back to
Starting point is 00:30:11 switch it out yeah beat his ass and that is 79 boxing analogy for like pick an unconventional character surprise them there you go can unpopular loser character save really good because save that's it the match up to hot con or eight on save that shit for nationals exactly exactly so off that I mean I
Starting point is 00:30:33 like like shit just again this weekend I'm thinking about the one of the most popular anime fighters that's still going competitively with the community of courses blaze blue because it's got rollback now and and like a lot of people that have been playing blaze blue like if you've been playing since
Starting point is 00:30:56 calamity trigger 2008 it's still that game just with more shit stacked on top of it and it's still it hasn't been directly replaced by anything yeah nor will I mean so guilty gear team red is is one side and then team blue was the other the director left archsys so I don't know that we're gonna see a proper
Starting point is 00:31:20 like blaze blue sequel but what they've done is develop this game over the course of like fucking yeah 15 years and it's because they just built on it over all these versions people always have a fall back like like imagine if today the competitive game still being played with Street Fighter 4 the latest edition
Starting point is 00:31:42 right you can go back to a decade of memories of matchups and just be like yeah I've been playing this forever I can still enter and play the problem is of course is if you're trying to get into it for the first time so I read she's been playing it for a bit for example you're gonna have to learn 55
Starting point is 00:31:59 fucking matchups and the intricacies of those are so like encyclopedic that they're not impenetrable like unless you want to dedicate your entire like fucking work week to learning every character every matchup every interaction you're just not getting in at this point right good luck but some people do some people
Starting point is 00:32:24 do get get to that point some people are freaks but it can just do it yes but it's hilarious because when a new character gets announced in a game like that or like smash ultimate instead of watching the crowd pop off you watch some of the crowd pop off and and some of the crowd go fuck me not another
Starting point is 00:32:45 matchup I have to learn eighty nine hundred new interactions what do you mean this stupid jubey cat is now playable fuck this I don't want to learn another one is a yo he's bad enough and the character is an uncommon size so none of the bread and butters will work out whatever yeah yeah yeah it's it's crazy when the roster gets like to that route you know
Starting point is 00:33:10 it's interesting because project L has a defecto built-in advantage on this that has been seen in League of Legends and Dota which is infinite matchups like functionally infinite matchups is okay if you didn't have to pay for it hmm right right right right yeah like yeah I can I can spend all the time I
Starting point is 00:33:37 want on this I want because it's it's freed I'm literally the only thing I'm losing is my time and you're a young person boy you're drowning in time yeah I play video games for a living and I somehow don't have enough time to go to the fucking post office yeah and horizontal growth in a free-to-play game
Starting point is 00:33:57 is just like well more more stepping stones for anybody on the outside who's like ooh what's that so that makes sense it still does become nightmarish if you're like living that competitive life though you know if you're trying to stay like sharp you're and you're you're still gonna have to spend all that time
Starting point is 00:34:17 learning everything you can about every piece of information in the game and then you get then you get to where league is apparently at where there are so many interactions that you can't learn all of them before they get patched right right right okay just you just can't there there are too many
Starting point is 00:34:36 interactions to learn I mean I'm already talking about how Street Fighter 6 is gonna have every matchup and then there's gonna be three variations of frame data if you want to start thinking about that because when you're in burnout you got to add plus four and when you're in drive rush you're gonna
Starting point is 00:34:53 add another plus four so what I'm gonna do I'm gonna take all that frame data I'm gonna look at it and my brain is gonna turn it into more safe yes or less safe this is how games actually want you to think about it really like just know that this is a time where it's your turn or my turn that's it that's all they
Starting point is 00:35:17 really want you to think about your turn or my turn I blocked that now it's my turn I blocked that actually it's still your turn that's it the only frame data I need is I cannot reversal SPD no I am gray no you cannot but when I am blue I can reversal SPD this is this is the correct way to go for now yes there will
Starting point is 00:35:42 be it just there's just gonna be that one moment where it's like god damn it what the fuck just happened I don't understand and it was like oh that was a perfect frame trap that was set up to be you were you were plus eight on that and you pressed a button a button and you got hit by something that had a 10 frame
Starting point is 00:36:03 startup okay I don't know I don't know if I love it or hate the idea of like wait why did I lose and a man appears from the shadows with a jeweler's monocle and slows down the YouTube video well you see here you were you were four pixels over and one frame behind due to the blue spark and that's what did you as they're
Starting point is 00:36:25 adjusting their jeweler's monocle you're correct that is true that is some wild ass shit and that sucks but that's why you will never win a million dollars no but I want you will never win a million dollars and that right there is exactly why that little fucking monocle asshole the difference between those two
Starting point is 00:36:49 is a million dollars and then you take it into set two and you go he's gonna do it again but this time I already know what he wants to do because he did that last time that's how you do it that you know that he wants to do that last time exactly so you go to step three in your brain which is actually do the same
Starting point is 00:37:11 fuck up you did the first time but it'll work now but now it works because he expects the adjustment and now he knows that you're expecting to expect what he's expecting and you move on to tier five which is unga just hit buttons just hit the buttons unga won't win you a million dollars but it'll get you real
Starting point is 00:37:36 close it'll get you in the money yeah preem primo unga will get you in the money I want to see the interview with let's say to keto hey to keto hey how'd you beat him oh I was doing this I was doing that oh you know he really like this move blah blah blah and then they talked to number two in three and hey
Starting point is 00:37:56 guys what was your plan and they just look at directly into the camera I'm just pressing buttons mm-hmm I'm just pressing buttons out here yeah well dude it's give me 400 grand it's competitive Mount stupid lol pressing buttons lol pressing buttons player in the middle calculating every possible interaction
Starting point is 00:38:13 every possible state I did this wrong I should do I should correct this way yadda yadda you know absolutely the the looseness to which you have to honestly like when you watch a tournament player that is like on the final stage where the monitor you're standing on is your face and your character and you
Starting point is 00:38:35 watch some people sit down plug their sticker controller in and then don't even put the headphones on yeah they just listen to the sounds of it's screaming or the music or they or pull out an iPod a fucking playlist or was whatever on Spotify like the like some people are such beasts and it's such in
Starting point is 00:38:56 their blood that they don't need the audio cues of the game they don't need any of that shit they just need to stare at it and just feel their way through the whole thing that is absolutely you're just right you're just pressing buttons and you're winning and and and there's no real way around that you know
Starting point is 00:39:12 you can't nerf you can't nerf aga that's it yeah um anyways yeah it'll be really really really interesting to see what happens next year I wonder how if I wonder if any of the open qualifier will be dealt with online hmm I mean right yeah that's that's gonna be a question yeah that'll be a question men are one
Starting point is 00:39:43 with Anga no men are one with Anga Bunga you see Anga Bunga can win you money Anga on its own will not reminds me of my most hated my most hated phrase I've ever heard my life when streaming I think was when I was playing Runeterra which was like Pat go face I went what's face and somebody
Starting point is 00:40:04 replied with face is Anga and I understood it and it was like gross oh I hate this stop thinking just react I mean some of some of the like the matches them fucking getting in Yomi hustle that are like the hardest ones I have to win by switching on the fucking monkey mode I just I'm like okay I see
Starting point is 00:40:37 you're defensive you're smart you're reading my reads time to just be an eight rocks together and shit my hand time to be an eight that's how it is you and just put some YOLO plays out there you know anyways remember I'll never forget ever who the fuck would ever do had a burst from full screen twice and he
Starting point is 00:40:58 won he won that match because who the fuck best had a burst from full screen twice yeah insanity yep your rocky earned it um all right so as aforementioned I'll I'll go in a little bit yes this weekend there was a local tournament we mad so what we mad so the the the group
Starting point is 00:41:32 Montreal air dashers right runs a tournament often called you mad which is ultimate Montreal air dashers that was the last one that ran right I remember now now remember yeah and this is the second one they usually that that they're doing so this is the winter edition of Montreal air dashers so we
Starting point is 00:41:56 mad I love it yeah good times went in just just a real a real just like send off and and and like you sometimes you go in here like I'm gonna show my support I'm gonna make my pot donations I'm gonna see what happens but really I'm here to just fucking stand behind some friends and watch some cool some
Starting point is 00:42:25 cool fights and shit go down and I pretty much did that but hey I got my I got my my top four in cyberbots so there and there's there's that and I got I got I got at least top eight in Fuzi's so there's that not too bad not too shabby the we've said we're saying goodbye to Street Fighter 5 right now
Starting point is 00:42:54 right like that it is that's it that's the rap just this is the last round that it will be the big deal I kind of feel sad for it it I don't I don't because if okay to ask five to have launched in the state it's in now would have been impossible but if isn't gonna launch in the state that five is in now
Starting point is 00:43:21 but six is launching in the best state Street Fighter's ever been in yeah this is the best launch version of a game they've ever had here's hoping five if five wasn't fucking sabotaged for that's the word really what do you mean do you mean that metaphorically do you mean that literally what could you be
Starting point is 00:43:47 talking about I mean quite literally if five wasn't fucking knee-capped what what do you what do you mean and and sent out to fucking be executed in a field it could have launched in a state that was at least like if five launched like championship edition holy fuck that game would have been hype right
Starting point is 00:44:11 holy fuck people would have been so excited about it but the the the season one blues into season two like what is going on like this the trajectory of confusion and unhypening that occurred and then by the point that you know at least for me like you know some of the other characters came around and I'm
Starting point is 00:44:33 like okay what's happening with the Cali fucking nothing cool he's just the most boring character in the entire game sick love that right on a personal level but if that game launched in the state that it kind of got to when hands switched and when the new team took over it would have been a real different
Starting point is 00:44:51 story but it wasn't and that that whole kerfuffle in the middle about like we fix the online no stop don't fix it was like just a whole like another blemish that thing didn't need it it unfortunately just it kills a lot it kills the hype it kills the excitement there's a bit of it to where at optimal play it is kind
Starting point is 00:45:14 of a solved game it feels like you know when you watch rounds of it play out there is a correct way to play the mate the top tier characters and the way that's going to play out is going to be using the meter in the exact same method each time so it's it's in a solved state which is also not super exciting for
Starting point is 00:45:32 for just a spectator six is adding enough that there's variability that's going to keep it really fucking die yeah I just like I just said three sets of frame data but this is a like for me the fact that the only reason why five is like if you're feeling like oh farewell it's kind of sad it's like no but the
Starting point is 00:45:55 only reason why you're feeling good about where five is that is because of the guys heading up six it's just excitement for what's to come because that fucking crew it did such a good job they lifted that game up out of its fucking shambles and ended it in a state where people are like ah yeah
Starting point is 00:46:12 street fighter five ain't so bad that's alright no that final version of the game was pretty cool that was a miracle and those guys are now heading up the new direction that is the way to look at it it's crazy like a lot of people aren't aware dude Street Fighter 6 has been in development for so long
Starting point is 00:46:29 it has been in development for so much longer than you would expect and it seems like it's paying dividends I'm just thinking Capcom so when Street Fighter 6 is is done and dusted and we've gone through championship edition and and you know super and you know all that and it's time to make a new Street
Starting point is 00:46:53 Fighter I suggest that they start making Street Fighter 8 because they should just not make odd numbered Street Fighter games anymore I see I see so we just skip the numbers entirely just just just don't but what about three what about three well there was three then there was three two and then
Starting point is 00:47:28 there was three three I don't know if your rule really works there skipped three and gone to three two and three three and called it four but three three is now double this completely falls apart I was trying to follow along but it completely and utterly falls apart I'm saying the new generation is really
Starting point is 00:47:49 bad yeah that's that's fine I'd rather play that than one I think everyone would rather play that than one um I can't believe like most of the people listening to this have not played Street Fighter one go go figure out how to track down and play Street Fighter 1 and marvel in fucking awe don't even
Starting point is 00:48:19 ever got to a sequel at all don't even try to like win a round just try to do a hood ok just touch it attempt to do one fireball yeah us astonishing um indeed but yeah fun tournament good stuff um always always a chill vibe with the with the anime crew there they're there like I said the
Starting point is 00:48:51 anime the anime boys are a little less thuggery you know a little more inviting and that's why I think they're thriving a little bit better as a community it's well I mean they're well rested because they bring their pillows everywhere well I mean at this point grumpy at this point a lot of
Starting point is 00:49:13 those a lot of those anime pillow kids you're describing have gone on to just work like fucking high paying tech jobs and they're now actually coming off of their like big salary fucking work taking a weekend to come play some anime games to go right back into that world because they're getting that fucking
Starting point is 00:49:31 nerdy little lives at the office so they can pull something like that something like that uh yeah no no no it was it was cool um other notable thing for me this week was I spent some time with Wild Hearts sponsored time of course hell yeah sponsored time I contacted that gentleman
Starting point is 00:49:57 you referred me to and he was like too late loser and I'm like ah better let next time but um I will say this I enjoyed it enough that after sponsored time I went back and kept playing so I had some fun with that now note of course that through sheer luck I decided to just grab the
Starting point is 00:50:23 PS5 edition not the PC port I think first of all I want to congratulate you and now the the streaming nonsense that you're dealing with with the times makes a lot more sense because sure enough there you were on the Wild Hearts steam page that was yeah now that thing though is the the all I all I can tell is that
Starting point is 00:50:49 the PC port is falling ass over balls and it seems to be because of an audio setting that is forcing the game to run on a single core I have done more research on this because what me not being sponsored I went through the process of like I really like to mess with Monster Hunter clones I think it's
Starting point is 00:51:12 I think it's a really cool fascinating thing but I saw people talking about the PC version right I wanted to know like well what's what's going on so it's not that the audio is making it run on a single core it's that the game itself runs on a single core and that by switching from regular audio to
Starting point is 00:51:32 surround sound audio you're offloading your audio processing onto a different part of your computer probably the graphics card which is freeing up CPU cycles to use for everything else okay it is also not the best on the consoles because I was hanging out on that Wild Hearts subreddit it's one of those games
Starting point is 00:52:03 that will not let you connect online if you have like a certain amount of friends or a certain amount of blocked people on your on your consoles list yeah so I saw that there's that bug as well where like if you have too many blocked people you might have connection issues getting on the servers I had some server disconnects
Starting point is 00:52:21 that were like just random while playing and backing out to main menu and going online didn't fix it I had to do a quit and restart right to get to get back on so then there was also while I was streaming there's a whole area on the mountain that the collision for this tree mountain is just not where the
Starting point is 00:52:46 graphics are for it and the model is just often like there's some weird running on invisible things so like this thing needs some time in the oven to fix up some of those problems there's another bug that happens on the consoles at least I think skill up talked about it also happens on PC but
Starting point is 00:53:02 consoles which otherwise look like mostly fine are encountering it once you get to high rank or the high rank equivalent where you know the areas change a little bit it loads up a slightly different version of the map you know like oh the river is flowing again okay spring instead of winter
Starting point is 00:53:19 um and the game slows down by like by like 40 percent and like the frame rate isn't necessarily dropping but the game is is running in like an ironic slow motion oh all the time what yeah I was watching uh some videos of it where like it is it is just like it at like half speed
Starting point is 00:53:50 does like the updated state not unload all the previous it appears that something to do with the new map is just yeah okay just doubling the resources so so this is this feels like you know I mean so unfortunately I again I dodged most of what we're hearing about uh but it sounds like yeah time in
Starting point is 00:54:15 the oven would be you know the right the right thing because I don't know how koay tecmo games launch usually um but I'm seeing people make reference to the fact that it's not to be unexpected that they're coming out in a state that needs heavy patching right there's a reason why when neo2 came out on pc
Starting point is 00:54:39 they made a really really huge deal that they worked really hard on it because because koay tecmo games on the personal computer don't buy them on the personal computer so don't but does that count as as them like because that's team ninja as opposed to omega force though I would say
Starting point is 00:55:02 do not buy any koay tecmo game on the computer except for maybe neo2 okay because I'm like I'm yeah I'm seeing team ninja and and and omega force as the main like they're that's the difference right you're looking it's muso games versus the the other stuff so um but but all things
Starting point is 00:55:21 to say like uh what worked and what was there was pretty fucking sick man um seems to be everyone that is playing it's like core like upsetness which is like I'm watching the skill up review and he's like this game seems tons of fun it's on fire yeah um so I think and I think with that like you when you play
Starting point is 00:55:48 it and you get like uh when yeah when you're in that when you're in that when you're flowing through it and kind of getting what it's doing there's you can see that what's sick about it and you're like okay this needs to get patched up right because once it does it's gonna be
Starting point is 00:56:03 fucking sick um as it is now you can still have a pretty fun experience with it I know I did on on on the console at the very least PC coming in like mostly negative based on how bad let port is yeah so be it like if you fucking drop money on a game that's not gonna work then that's that's that's shit um but
Starting point is 00:56:24 uh what they what they're going for with like just yeah the way the combat feels and stuff is really fun um yeah right get there okay um so the defaults kind of sword you swing around and stuff kate takes you through like you know the basics of you're gonna swing your skatana do this
Starting point is 00:56:46 do that jump and yadda yadda um but the the gimmick they kind of showed off in all the promotional material and and the stuff that you know I was talking about on stream was the the karakuri right the little construction wooden engineering tools you make on the the fortnight a little bit um and I was
Starting point is 00:57:08 like okay it's a gimmick you know we'll we'll we'll see how that plays out um you really just want to kind of fight and probably need to just be good at that but they implement the gimmick really well like every time you use one it makes the fight more hype in some way like none of them ever felt like oh i
Starting point is 00:57:32 got to go set up a turret over here and then like you know waste some time slowing down the pace of battle every time you use it it speeds up the pace of battle and um and the the whole like yeah fortnight process of building is like being done in a way where it's not this giant tower it's just a couple
Starting point is 00:57:51 things and most it'll be a second or two and it'll either result in you putting up a super fucking gate that blocks a charge or you can climb the gate and do a mounting attack or you can get a speed boost to the left or to the right and do a sick ass boost based thing because your weapons also react to
Starting point is 00:58:11 aerial state or bounce state and and mobility uh amplifying things off of the tools you're dropping um the fact that you're doing that with a group of people as well um yeah i mean again i can and i can't speak for where the like best versions of monster hunter got to but when you're working in with
Starting point is 00:58:34 with a team synergistically i should say uh you're filling roles and doing things and you know there's the guy who's running the great sword that's going to just wait for the right moment to bam and everyone else is doing the other stuff someone's putting the traps down um the cool fights i had in this were
Starting point is 00:58:50 ones where um one player dropped a bunch of bounce pads and um uh walls around and was kind of just you know dealing with the monster and putting traps that exploded around it and then me and a second person with the umbrellas were just in midair dancing and spinning and parrying off of the attacks and coming
Starting point is 00:59:15 back in and landing on the bounce and getting back into the air and just like it was it was wild shit yeah it sounds like it's doing tons of interesting shit that makes it like meaningfully different from monster hunter like it's not a derivative it's like its own thing and it seems really cool
Starting point is 00:59:32 and i'm very interested in it as long as a version of the game is pointed to as like this one isn't broken yep yeah i did hear something funny though that the game's text goes wildly out of its way to never ever say the word monster or hunt in any context kimono hunt is said often hunt hunt is
Starting point is 01:00:01 said often monsters are kimono kimono this is this is what we call them it's not a monster it's a kimono yes and uh you know i mean for what it's worth that didn't necessarily apply to me but in game at the very least like don't well in general don't put these words together don't do that don't do it
Starting point is 01:00:26 but you are going on hunts for kimono all the time and people ask you to go hunt things um all right but um yeah i know so i know the uh the insect glaive well whatever i saw it it was like yeah midair crazy airy like wild spinning and attacking and shit um so i guess that becomes
Starting point is 01:00:45 sort of the a comparison point the thing with um the umbrella that obviously you know no surprise there the parry system on it just fucking felt so good you know and i like the window i like the timing of it um and like on stream i was trying to parry so often that like i just took a bunch of hits
Starting point is 01:01:08 and was like you don't you could have just rolled out of the way of that you could have just rolled out of the way of that you didn't need to deal with that but the rewards you get for landing the parry is your your umbrella heats up and does more damage so every time you're doing one one one one one one one it
Starting point is 01:01:22 becomes ten ten ten ten ten you know um one of the things i'm looking at footage now uh for context and it's like much like almost every other not monster hunter game it's way faster than monster hunter mm like your average like to the point where when i was watching the video of
Starting point is 01:01:39 the guy complaining about it moving and slow motion i was waiting for him to cut to it in slow motion because it looked like the game in slow motion looks like monster hunter interesting yeah okay um even the heavy weapons like i so you go check out the hammer and um so i remember how like great sword and monster
Starting point is 01:02:03 hunter would be like like five second commitments to like some swings or so right um the pacing of like how you time things is actually hard because things are slower than you expect them to be um that's still the case here but there's little things where it's like uh if you use the hammer every time you
Starting point is 01:02:21 slam it down you can do basically um honestly it's it's uh it's a fucking uh um x-act right every time you slam the hammer down you press r2 and then you extend its stat its handle to get more damage and then you can do further combos using those extensions so you're kind of doing a little x-act on every
Starting point is 01:02:42 swing um the final swings you're sometimes doing at some points are like doing lunar phase in the air with a hammer but you're doing you're doing swing immediately into like you know uh r2 it's into swing into r2 into swing into r2 with like really tight timing and it gets pretty fast you know um
Starting point is 01:03:04 the overall i guess um i i can't again speak for the depth of building armor and weapons and stuff and in the you know let's say rise or so but when you look at the fucking skill tree in this thing you pull out and you see a sphere grid for every weapon um a sphere grid yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna weapon upgrade
Starting point is 01:03:29 tree it's a great well it's a weapon upgrade tree but you can go sideways to get one thing keep those properties and keep going down another path as long as you're touching are you like upgrade like you have a umbrella and you're like upgrading your skill with the umbrella and that gets you different
Starting point is 01:03:48 stuff or you up making a new umbrella or you're making a new umbrella like neo style and you're choosing what skills to keep as if you were fusing demons and smt right and then you hear about this game is interesting yeah and so you can stack up the like if you want extra crit and you know extra whatever
Starting point is 01:04:11 specific savage state you know then you keep those skills and you discard the other ones that you could have gotten um and then as you're going down the sphere grid you might see something off to another branch that's like oh but i want that though it's like that's cool just go touch it get that one thing and
Starting point is 01:04:27 then continue down this path and keep that one thing as you uh passed up the the skills on um armor was there's a whole system with that too that i don't fully understand but it seems as if at the very least you can put armor on you have all your pieces and then there's um human aspect and beast aspect so you
Starting point is 01:04:51 can upgrade your regular stuff or you can start leaning towards like more kimono oriented features and then it gives you beast skill points versus like human skill points so you can go more tech or more raw um and that affects the design too so like every piece seems to have like that like five point variation
Starting point is 01:05:11 on it and then you could also just go drop full on glamour over everything so if you wanted like a particular set like there's a ninja outfit that it'll carry the stats of what you're wearing but just drop you in that aesthetic no matter what so glamour is already there um so i'm looking i'm looking at this
Starting point is 01:05:31 apparently the uh they are aware of a quote cpu threading issue and we'll be releasing a patch to fix that this week okay so here's hoping yeah um no a couple of fucking again a little some more time in the oven and i think uh you're gonna i think you're gonna really enjoy uh what's going on here the only thing is of
Starting point is 01:05:55 course is i'm i'm not comparing it fully to anything besides monster hunter world which i know you know i mean that hey woolly monster hunter's fucking monster yeah like the the one the one thing that i will say that is like kind of not tiring or bad but just kind of not very exciting monster hunter is monster hunter
Starting point is 01:06:19 is monster hunter like those games are incremental improvements and a lot of that strength of that series is because it's incremental you can just take all that old shit and drag it forward right one of the complaints i saw for wild hearts is like that the total monster list is like 20
Starting point is 01:06:39 or oh yeah okay okay yeah that i well yeah well they're making brand new shit from they're starting a new system exactly you can't compare it to sunbreak which has like fucking 15 years to like and in some cases drag ps2 models out of retirement um something about it that's really actually uh notable and and cool
Starting point is 01:07:02 is the entire campfire system um which is there are wells of resources that you find and um there are like water trees that are basically like you know estus trees whatever uh and uh these will be located around key environments and such but anytime you go and you find one of these wells you can put a campfire down
Starting point is 01:07:26 wherever you want and that will be a sitting point where you can put your shit together upgrade some stuff or go travel to another you know um um to a city or whatever and then if you want you can spend some more resources and put up a tent and that will become a fast travel point right and then um you
Starting point is 01:07:46 also so all the um karakuri that you're building those are the the the uh the all your fortnights yeah all your fortnights that includes um that includes utility things like the camp and the the tent and so on which are when you look at the full list an extensive basically every room you every place
Starting point is 01:08:08 you would go visit in a monster hunter village can become a thing you drop at a camp so you can create a whole base camp with like there's a blacksmith over here uh here is a training dummy um here is a wind thing to lift me above to see what's going on here is a tower that detects nearby monsters here is a
Starting point is 01:08:32 grappling hook um zipline that i can shoot way across the map yeah i saw people very happy with the zipline stuff you can zipline the whole fucking map as if it were death stranding and okay and as long as you spend your rego collect enough resources you can create quick access to multiple places
Starting point is 01:08:54 and teleporters for the for the stuff that's further away uh you can zipline into a series of like across a valley land on the other side ignore the area in between and then drop onto a bunch of sonic speed boosts to just get to the monster you know and and and you can kind of put it together in such a way
Starting point is 01:09:14 where you're like oh shit when i learn this map and i know where the monsters like to run after each phase i can beat it there with all my tech and just be ready and waiting fully fed fully healed up and just fucking destroy it as it runs up to the location that's it's cool i i really i really
Starting point is 01:09:39 want them to to fix this thing up because if they do in the near future i'll start streaming and i i fucking love monster hunter clones i think they're all really interesting they all try at least something weird i really liked to keyton too as well the the last one that they made
Starting point is 01:09:57 um i just like the the tech yeah fucking yeah it can it can get there it can get there if they're working on it it can get there people in the chat are mentioning not dauntless dauntless is a pile of shit um but yeah i imagine to the uh you know as japan loves the fucking monster hunter uh franchise
Starting point is 01:10:20 the the freedom to kind of like you know do your own version of that with these clones is i mean obviously there's the can we cash in on some of this money because there's a whole lot of people that are down with it but um there's room for other games like that you know i they're all that that
Starting point is 01:10:39 genre is so fucking weird because like it's been though there's the gold standard game you're like all right who's number two and like number two has never crystallized that's so weird there usually is often a thing you know but like there's been no exodus of x capcom monster hunter devs
Starting point is 01:10:57 to make their own monster hunter with blackjack and hookers god eaters fun but yeah god eater is fun but it's not like a like a smash hit or anything like that also doesn't really help when it ends up being a plum
Starting point is 01:11:11 which we call it a vita only release you know um so yeah uh this is this is the one with the fucking it's got the big big ea bucks behind it and it's got the big yula that you have to agree to and the whole no man don't bug me bucks don't
Starting point is 01:11:30 big ea buck says man this should run better it should it should how do let me ask you let's say they got a performance patch out like fucking thursday right and it's like very very market improvement right as somebody who used to work tons in qa how do you feel about games
Starting point is 01:11:49 that like they're like because i'm gonna assume and you can correct me if i'm wrong but if they're able to get a performance patch out next week it had to have been known last week a million was a surprise long before submission
Starting point is 01:12:08 right long before submission yes really these were all these are all things that people testing the release candidate build of the game um saw and bugged and knew about some of them were deprioritized as um fixed ease in a later update some of them were considered not submission
Starting point is 01:12:25 risks there's no chance that this stuff is like oh we just found out about it now because like how do you feel about games that come out and then like a vital update drops within 10 days yeah so it's release well it's simple
Starting point is 01:12:45 it's ea looks at it and says um we can delay this and let the vital drop happen and then um you know take that that take that little bit but it'll come out cleaner and and do better in reviews or whatever or you can send out your early embargoes
Starting point is 01:13:03 you can tell everybody hey um when you're reviewing please note that there'll be a day one patch yadda yadda and you can go uh we don't want you can you can basically look at it and go we don't want our investors to hear to hear that a major release is getting
Starting point is 01:13:17 delayed so we're not budging this no matter what under any circumstances we need this to drop in quarter one 2023 um and there is no version of however long it takes to get it right it's like no no no whatever state it's in it must
Starting point is 01:13:32 come out at this point and if you make it better then you make it better but if it comes out in flops that's what what what the what the what the fuck do they care all right well that's just another flop
Starting point is 01:13:42 right cool looks like we'll we'll be less willing to trust you guys on future projects we'll continue to be the monolith that we are um it it's entirely you can you can bet your ass is a probably a huge amount of discussion
Starting point is 01:13:58 happening with um omega force like going like yo can we fucking get some extra yeah can we get some you know and and you can bet your ass that there's an a-wrap going no you can't
Starting point is 01:14:10 no you can't prepare whatever you can for for the end of february and that's all you're getting you know um day one patches are now they're they used to be like these kind of like
Starting point is 01:14:24 exceptional sort of things now they're absolutely factored into development as well so um there would be agreements between developer and publisher about like what
Starting point is 01:14:35 can be fixed by day one and now the hardware manufacturer is included in that too so you'll actively go and tell sony like okay conditional let us get through this pass as long as we promise this really
Starting point is 01:14:50 really bad one will be in a day one patch right and the only people that are ever going to see this bug are people who are loading up their game on disc ps5 in the woods with no internet okay fine we'll let you release it like
Starting point is 01:15:05 that yeah uh because like it's it's it's a balancing act where like these these hunting games that they come out right and it's like this this early release period isn't actually like super vital
Starting point is 01:15:19 because they all have long tails and they all last right but it's like these are always like God Eater and to Keaton were the same way like the first one is there to put the foot in the door and go
Starting point is 01:15:34 we know we're not gonna beat the monster hunter that you can buy right now but it's cool and it's different and the next one we can focus on just adding more stuff but if that foot doesn't get in the fucking door this is what i'm saying
Starting point is 01:15:49 it like it like if you're talking about like oh yeah okay that game came out it was interesting did some new stuff yeah let's keep an eye on that that's one thing the time it's not vital that it blows monster hunter rise
Starting point is 01:16:05 or sunbreak away with with its fucking you know a debut what it is vital is for the screenshot to not be hey look it's woolly versus on the stream tab on the steam tab
Starting point is 01:16:18 check it out we're playing the game and then immediately under it mostly negative on pc because people are like i can't fucking get past these issues oh yeah no that screenshot's hilarious
Starting point is 01:16:29 you know that like it's that's not helping i want to i want to like raise my hands to the sky and be like yo steam why do you even like good for you for getting on the steam front page
Starting point is 01:16:40 why does steam allow streaming the fucking console versions on the store page i think that's fucking weird i think they just pre i think they just kind of pre um uh approved like company can run
Starting point is 01:16:57 whatever list of streamers during this time block and then they control the feed you know um i think that's how that goes because that also probably explains why
Starting point is 01:17:08 i had to do two two-hour streams as opposed to yeah absolutely a longer one but the second stream i did i ran longer because i really wanted to fucking take out that that that the bore that thing had my number
Starting point is 01:17:19 and i was like i can i feel it so we ran for like an extra to third hour there at which point i assumed they would cut away because you know also running my 10-minute outro
Starting point is 01:17:29 with hentai in it is probably not great for like EA front page purposes but we ran it anyway we ran it anyway so i don't know ran your fucking
Starting point is 01:17:40 disgusting outro on the steam front page you fucking bet i did come buy wild hearts what is that bible black i don't know can't do that
Starting point is 01:17:53 so yeah that's how we roll but all this to say that um i uh no i'm it is what i see of this game is
Starting point is 01:18:02 is is actually fucking sick and i really do i think once you get to that patch or if that patch if it gets you know again within the week
Starting point is 01:18:12 or by next or whatever the case is you guys we're probably gonna like it for sure so i've got a a screenshot i've been trying to get from somebody
Starting point is 01:18:22 this whole time in the audio output method screen um at the bottom in in bright orange it just goes audio output
Starting point is 01:18:32 is not currently functioning correctly like the game seems like it's sub final like it's like it's not the like
Starting point is 01:18:46 you know what i mean like it's not the release candidate got got pushed out the door i mean publishing you know what it is i do
Starting point is 01:18:57 says so right there in the fucking corner of my video like you know what it is man yeah that being said though omega force so besides muso
Starting point is 01:19:11 what what else dynasty warriors muso muso the that's their jam right there yeah
Starting point is 01:19:22 because because the neo comparison is interesting because i'm like neo neo 2 um
Starting point is 01:19:27 strangers of paradise right like that's a a particular team ninja kick oh strangers of paradise runs like trash on pc does it yeah okay
Starting point is 01:19:38 because if neo 2 was better the lessons you would hope would carry over fuck it ran so badly on pc that people modded out all the hair in the game
Starting point is 01:19:50 ew fuck because that made it run better okay all right well no guarantees then i guess it's yeah it's a it's a toss up um
Starting point is 01:20:05 what the fuck was the game that got ported i was just hearing about a pc port of a game that like is not the original pc port but like a different companies like there was like a place
Starting point is 01:20:18 oh we were talking about that last week that was um fuck and no more hairs right right yeah yeah that type of shit i just um pc ports big being bad is like i know you'd be like for a while
Starting point is 01:20:34 it was like oh nether realm's always going to make a bad pc port they're just not the wbs not paying attention to that shit they don't care and you can kind of see like which companies do and don't and stuff japan also for a long time
Starting point is 01:20:45 in general there was a lot of games that i if i remember just like it was just an afterthought as well and uh yeah like it i think it's a new version of that right now so i think version of that is
Starting point is 01:20:58 unreal engine four in directx 12 does not they just go okay here it is and then they don't do the pre pregame shading compilation and so then you stutter every time you run into something new elden ring did it
Starting point is 01:21:12 and then they fixed it after launch yakuza ishian sorry like a dragon ishian does that on pc there's stutters every time you see a new effect and in cutscenes they could freak out when blood shows up because blood's like an alpha effect
Starting point is 01:21:25 or something um to hold back to unreal engine four games they're just going in directx 12 yeah see i guess it just it comes down to like is this a lead platform
Starting point is 01:21:39 is this in test with all the others simultaneously or is this being handed off to someone else right and if it's being handed off to someone else because you guys don't know anything about it and don't want to
Starting point is 01:21:50 have anything to do with it nice roll man who the fuck are those people yeah you know is it budcat is budcat handling your port is it uh nix's i think it they are
Starting point is 01:22:00 nix's yeah yeah yeah you know you just never fucking know man the stuff that was um usually all right i mean at least based on my test you know time was when it would be like yeah we've got all the xbox
Starting point is 01:22:14 testing going on here playstations over here and pc's right behind and like same people are fixing the same bugs on same platforms at the same time the workflow is united
Starting point is 01:22:25 everything that we're cross checking is happening in tandem and parallel even if the playstation is the lead build like everything is getting mirrored you know
Starting point is 01:22:36 it's just a simultaneous correction process that allows for a lot of that and then obviously you know pc permutations have to be factored in and so on but you don't end up with these like ridiculous glaring
Starting point is 01:22:48 one audio issue turns into a massive like performance thing for the whole game you don't run into shit like that you know but um step one to that is of course creating
Starting point is 01:22:58 a dev environment where pc is present and taken seriously as a platform to begin with yeah it depends so like uh ishin the pc port is otherwise excellent
Starting point is 01:23:11 other than the stutter but they also put out a demo so that people could mess with their systems and it's where the stutter was discovered which is why i'm playing ishin on on the ps5 instead
Starting point is 01:23:26 hmm okay yeah um not much else you know about it but uh the i want to see what the other weapon types are the only ones that uh there's like eight right
Starting point is 01:23:40 uh i the list is i think the list was like 10 i think you get like six right off the bat and then like four question marks um let's take a look here wild hearts weapon and armor because there's uh there's uh
Starting point is 01:23:53 katana no dachi hammer um fan bow and arrow bow katana uh umbrella i'm gonna call it an umbrella it's not called an umbrella wagasa
Starting point is 01:24:06 dachi yeah mall which is a big hammer kurokuri staff so it looks like eight okay yeah so you get so you see five of them off the bat and then like yeah three it's a good start
Starting point is 01:24:18 if they're all have to if they're all gonna be in-depth things that like you know in a monster hunter kind of way you can really branch out on and do a bunch of shit uh yeah and um again the the the stuff where monster hunter
Starting point is 01:24:32 would do a like oh charge blade switch to axe form switch to shield form switch to uh amplified discharge you know um this in this case it's kind of like hit that spring mount that wall
Starting point is 01:24:47 do this like aerial uh uh a karakuri based amplifier to your move um or in the the umbrella's case it's like do parry stance and then do a follow-up attack and if you whiff and follow-up
Starting point is 01:25:02 you get one sequence of moves or if you land a parry and follow-up you get another you know so like little little depth beyond the shallow I I think I've said three times I really really really want them
Starting point is 01:25:16 to clean this game up this week so that I can dive into it but like I don't want to get into the situation that people are encountering where you're getting to the really good stuff in the end game and the game turns into soup
Starting point is 01:25:29 because that's like the biggest downer I can imagine in fact if there is a significant performance patch coming out this week I can imagine the decision was made because like oh don't worry most people won't get to
Starting point is 01:25:42 well most people won't get to the soup before we patch it uh okay weekend right if you don't hit end game until the patch you'll be fine yeah that's that's publisher excuses bullshit yeah
Starting point is 01:25:56 yeah anyways I gotta actually really use the bathroom so I'm gonna do that have fun okay yeah so anyways Wild Hearts a
Starting point is 01:26:15 a sponsored stream some videos are gonna be coming out for that this week over on Woolly versus stay tuned uh they're gonna be I'm gonna be they're gonna be the full streams in their entirety so we're just gonna be basically putting up full
Starting point is 01:26:30 the two and then the three hour VOD as the two episodes and uh that kind of has to come out so those are gonna take a little bit of precedence but around that of course hi-fi rush and
Starting point is 01:26:48 mass effect three are gonna continue also got some fun clips coming over on woolly versus the algorithm so go go peep those there's there's uh one currently being rendered I believe is the uh the the the trial of punch mom um she's been she's been called
Starting point is 01:27:08 to the bench over her takes on 80s music so uh what takes could anyone have on 80s music other than 80s music was pretty good this is that this is this is the trial this is exactly the problem yes no no no
Starting point is 01:27:27 you're you're correct and this is why we have to go further um so that you haven't been married that long you can't you can't you can't have the divorce the topsoil got to kick the tires see what happens when you don't kick the tires
Starting point is 01:27:43 um yeah you should have checked this so uh yeah that's that's a fun clip uh coming soon over there um of course as well for those who have been tuning in uh yeah please just uh uh some some some fun clips coming from from some old dumb shit
Starting point is 01:28:05 gone at 60 seconds persists the less said about it the better um just for those of you who are watching that you just watch that and that's all we just watch it that's it the less said the better not much to say um and then uh yeah so this week uh
Starting point is 01:28:30 gonna be off uh so just a heads up in advance uh we're gonna be back next week to the normal schedule so um gonna be out of town for a bit cool um yeah that's pretty much me all right so i mentioned i might as well start with ishain right i mentioned it earlier so like a dragon ishain i
Starting point is 01:28:54 should mention i'm having the hardest time in the world calling them like a dragon games like that that is that is gonna take some some psychological grunt work how about rgg rgg is also something i never really called them so i might as well just
Starting point is 01:29:19 move over to lad to the lad games i don't think anyone's gonna blame you if you say yakuza i know but but but anyone who doesn't know what the franchise is that then tries to google it will probably get confused yeah so i had that problem dude i was typing in yakuza ishain into fucking
Starting point is 01:29:39 twitch and going why isn't the game popping up oh cuz it's not fucking called that that's yeah yeah um so like a dragon or rgg ishain uh first of all i want to say it has the funniest title i can think of i was informed that the title of the
Starting point is 01:30:00 game is actually ishin uh kawami in japanese so it's a kawami game and as we all know okay so as we all know kawami means extreme what does ishin mean it means renewal so what with this game taking place in 1867 during the meiji restoration this game is called meiji restoration
Starting point is 01:30:31 extreme extreme renewal no it's it's like having like civil war extreme wow featuring all your favorites from like it's it's it's ridiculous okay um yeah so this is a playstation 5 remake of a game that never came out here the battle van titum extreme that came out in between uh yakuza 5
Starting point is 01:30:57 yakuza 0 um and they did not think they would ever release it in the west until they saw ghost of sushi and they were like hey westerners will buy a japanese game that takes place an old time in japan okay i guess we can bring that out here right they sure will and i'm playing it and i'm looking at
Starting point is 01:31:23 it and i'm starting to understand why they were like maybe this is too japanese for a western audience because the game has not translation issues or localization issues but it has the assumption of knowledge issues that i was not aware of oh no so it takes place in uh 1860 1867 and i believe 1868
Starting point is 01:31:59 during the lead up to the meiji restoration which is a very popular historical era in japan kenshin takes place during it gintama takes place during it there's lots and lots of anime and manga shinsen gumi hanging around yeah the shinsen gumi shit right well they have they have cast the actors and
Starting point is 01:32:23 voice actors and face models who played like a dragon characters as famous members of the shinsen gumi right so that's not a majima that's iso the guy with tuberculosis that i remember from samurai showdown oh right yes ukyo yes um for example this creates a very okita oh i can't so i can't so okay
Starting point is 01:32:55 that's okita sure perfect tashibana i can't keep their names straight and i can't keep their names straight for a very specific reason and that's because i have already played the games in which i'm familiar with these actors because majima comes out and i go oh that's majima and the game goes no it's not
Starting point is 01:33:18 that's okita and i go cool and then as soon as the camera pans away they go oh they're talking about okita and then they then they pan back and then i'm like oh majima's back good they have a character name um oh fuck i can't even remember but your sworn brother and it's the final villain
Starting point is 01:33:40 from yakuza zero and i'm like oh cool it's that guy but it's not that guy it's a historical figure that is being named a different guy and i feel like i have dementia so are they doing the thing that they wanted to do with final fantasy the spirits within where they want the same 3d models to be dressed
Starting point is 01:34:02 up in different ways and then that's a full actor and as a different character so when you see majima it's like the 3d model for majima but he's in old school clothing and you're supposed to right and then do they play their character like traits for bits that you should recognize no it's the weirdest
Starting point is 01:34:22 thing they're not playing the historical figures they're just being themselves but now they're named the historical figures and like it feels it feels like the cast of like a dragon all got together to put on a play okay and it's so fucking weird and i can't so here's the issue i know who the people in like
Starting point is 01:34:50 a dragon are i don't know who any of the people that took place in the shinsengumi meiji restoration is okay i exist in a strange weaboo venn diagram in which i love the yakuza games but i'm not enough of a weaboo to know who these characters are right the game is violently confusing you have it like
Starting point is 01:35:17 hmm i can't keep track of it at all um yeah no if you haven't brushed up on your nobu naga um wrong wrong era sure but i just but i mean to say if you haven't brushed up on your nobu naga and you go play a game that is dropping all the mitzuhide references and all these things that are played for not
Starting point is 01:35:44 shock but like you're supposed to kind of know this yeah so i i'm sitting there it's gonna be a fucking wild time and nishiki shows up right uh for your your buddy your brother yes yeah nishiki yeah yeah yeah yeah except he's not nishiki he's some asshole named iso and they he says my name is iso and
Starting point is 01:36:07 it does the buh buh buh like name card and he stands there for a second to be like hey i'm iso and people in my chat are going oh cool nishiki is iso and i'm like i don't know what the fuck this is and my brain just call it keeps calling him nishiki and then i moved to a different conversation and we're talking
Starting point is 01:36:27 about him and i'm like are they talking about the guy that i was just was that that guy or was that well name maybe me so fucking bad go me so fucking bad go go find like a quick like history video that it you can't do that spoils the whole you're gonna spoil you're
Starting point is 01:36:48 gonna spoil the events of history uh that's so weird but i know what you mean i was gonna bring i was gonna bring this there's something yeah i was gonna bring this up afterwards because i was i was going through something recently that's like real history and it's an interesting listen
Starting point is 01:37:06 and like there were i was trying to find a certain place and i was like oh fuck i i like saw some spoilers and was like these are real history spoilers these are just events that occurred there's a there's a great podcast i've been listening to that it was uh covering the history of the Haitian
Starting point is 01:37:27 revolution and it's pretty sick because it's just like hey yo do you want to know about like the the the one country that like had a successful slave uprising there's a whole fucking breakdown of the events um and yeah and there's a lot of steps along the way to how it got to that point
Starting point is 01:37:48 it's yeah it's called revolutions season four and uh it was and like it was really it's a really interesting story and just going through it i'm like like uh uh i i lost my place and i'll try to find an episode or whatever and i saw some names and some things pop up
Starting point is 01:38:01 and i was like oh no wait fuck hold on i don't want to know yet you know there's a yes you don't want to know you want to spoilers for ancient ancient history that is like literally how we got here and how the nation was established like okay dude sure yeah well i mean so
Starting point is 01:38:21 depends on how much of a problem it is i suppose which may only be just me i don't know i i feel like i'm not the only one who is violently confused by the double naming situation um the game's really cool it is fascinating to play like with the
Starting point is 01:38:38 like a dragon game that takes place in like 1860 in japan which is the era of i am a samurai but i'll also shoot you with this gun i found um sorry he just uh i was just sorry no just have you ever seen that nor mcdonald bit
Starting point is 01:38:56 where he's like have you uh you you heard about you're this hitler guy yeah i heard about this uh this is a now i tell you the more i read about this guy the more i don't like him yeah you know i'm just i'm just hey he had some
Starting point is 01:39:15 he has some not great things to say and i just you know and just like oh god it's just like it just goes on and the guy he's talking to was just like yeah well you know he's he's dead so it's like really i didn't even know he was sick it just and it just it's it's the whole
Starting point is 01:39:32 bit of just finding out history uh uh as if it were spoilers is hilarious all right anyways rip norm uh yeah it's fascinating to play through this particular historical era uh especially since like this era is the same as the wild west just on the other side of the planet
Starting point is 01:39:51 um and it has all the the resident goofiness which is like weirdo scientists shooting cannons at you to recreate the baseball minigame uh all that all that stuff uh one of the dlc things that you can get is just play the game is curio like just the model and the model swap
Starting point is 01:40:14 looks goddamn awful and it's hilarious because like he'll be sitting in a boat and he'll be fucking a posing because his fucking regular clothes are a lot puffier uh yeah but it also it's clear that it takes place between five and zero because there are some there are some things in
Starting point is 01:40:34 that system that did not get updated along for the ride like any side quests showing up on the map at all which is a fucking major bummer that sounds awful it it fucking is is there any continuity between the uh uh ishin games or is it just like time period fuckery and no it's just ishin
Starting point is 01:41:03 yeah okay just that one it exists as itself it doesn't matter yeah okay uh seems cool pc version has stutters i can't i don't know who i don't know who some famous historical figures in japan are i'm confused that that's what's going on with that game seems good oh wait i was what's kenzan
Starting point is 01:41:30 completely new characters and weren't based off of any of the existing actors that would make it completely trivial for me to understand it'd be easy what is kenzan then kenzan is an older much older i think it came out after yakuza 3 uh and you're playing as miyamoto misashi okay uh and that game
Starting point is 01:42:02 is never coming out ito period yeah okay okay one it's really old two the characters have been reimagined to be like very very screwed up versions of themselves like majima is like a serial killer i think uh harika is like a gen geisha in training that murders people like that's
Starting point is 01:42:28 that's not coming out okay that's not happening but it's also like just a completely different period and a completely different bit and like now they're just doing another period piece but they just picked a different period yet okay right right right uh i also played uh theater rhythm this week lots
Starting point is 01:42:45 of theater rhythm that'd be final fantasy theater rhythm the uh word i can't spell the most yep i have misspelled it every time i have ever attempted to type it i have get up on typing it correctly i will just wing it uh final bar line uh that is amplitude but final fantasy songs and boy there are a lot of fucking final
Starting point is 01:43:13 fantasy songs in that game it's great and sure your little your little funko pop final fantasy characters fight a boss in the background who gives a shit so you can play a rhythm game and listen to final fantasy three tracks that's it that's the game does it have tracks from uh seven r no dude it has tracks in if i
Starting point is 01:43:37 can remember this correctly in order from one two three four five six seven seven series which is crisis core last order etc advent children seven remake eight nine ten ten two eleven twelve thirteen thirteen two fourteen fifteen record keeper mobius tactics theater rhythm series in general which
Starting point is 01:44:13 includes medleys from the older games romancing saga mystic quest type zero uh exvious um uh fucking chocobo's dungeon with dlc coming for twi more romancing saga near xeno gears chrono cross chrono trigger ff 16 legend amana automata oh there's also desidia i forgot
Starting point is 01:44:56 the city is in there as well so yeah there's a lot strange of paradise yes your paradise crystal chronicles record keeper tactics yeah if if you can name it if you can name a game that is is even tangentially related to final fantasy got it there is a megalomania from live alive is coming to this game
Starting point is 01:45:22 in a couple months jesus like uh somebody in the chat says that fall fancy sixteen is not in the plans for dlc that is not true there are two games in the dlc list that are currently marked as unknown the bull will be releasing this winter sag which is assuredly going to be ff 16 saga in the
Starting point is 01:45:46 second saga pack four different saga frontier manna octopath jesus it's a dude it's fucking ridiculous well i see collapsed expressway i'm good yeah so the the only downside is you'll get to a game and you're like this game this has 10 to 32 tracks from this game in particular
Starting point is 01:46:12 and you'll be going through them you're like well that's that that's an obvious pick yeah that that's a good one yeah gotta have that and then you get to the end and you're like oh there's like three that they're missing like there's there's like none of the song lists are perfect
Starting point is 01:46:31 they're they're all like oh you missed out on that one or all this one or you didn't really need to include 40 versions of the chocobo theme right yeah i see i'm i'm seeing i mean they're god they're doing every genova because you know that's that's what you do you do it correctly but i would not expect anyone
Starting point is 01:46:54 to notice and or care about the theme that plays when you're in the locker room before the coliseum fights because that random one forgettable thing for in most cases is one of my favorite fucking tracks on the goddamn thing um but yeah no they got they yeah okay
Starting point is 01:47:14 this is this is all of it though otherwise it's it's a it's a crazy list um and it's a ton of fun and it's great and i don't really have much else to say it's exactly what it purports to be and it's exactly what you expect it to be and the only downside to it at all is
Starting point is 01:47:34 that it's it may be missing this track or that that you were excited to see what it has been funny though is going through people's impressions or reviews and i a consistent refrain is yo why does final fantasy 14 have double the size of the second largest like game why does it have 32 tracks compared to
Starting point is 01:48:02 no sorry 33 tracks compared to everything else is like 18 max it's like well because it's actually five games right they're including every expansion i would own thing i would assume that ff 13 one two and three would have more than even seven collection
Starting point is 01:48:23 but uh i don't know i mean how's the uh two i mean they're split if i remember right but i can't remember is the actual rhythm game itself pretty fun yeah it's amplitude okay right now and then you do an analog stick it taps holds multiples um it is it is uh there's four difficulties not every song has the
Starting point is 01:48:52 fourth difficulty which is called supreme um but the only issue there is that there's normal or easy whatever you call it the first one then there's expert then there's ultimate uh the jump between expert and ultimate is fucking gargantuan it is it is like the difference between guitar hero on easy and guitar hero on
Starting point is 01:49:19 expert it is it is a chasm hmm yeah and supreme is extra stupid and supreme is for ddr balani freaks well i was gonna say like in the the the world of balani exists we are now in a world where extra stupid is actually viable and you're allowed to program for like
Starting point is 01:49:41 just absolute robot freaks um and assume that a human can do it because yeah the the shit that that they got up to and beat mania the final level of where rhythm games are at in in japanese arcades is just it's like again i don't know that anyone in the office is actually completing these but it's like
Starting point is 01:50:01 theoretically a human can do this therefore ship it mm-hmm uh cool no it's it's a it's a great is a great little rhythm game um and it's probably a more affordable way to own all that music than to buy an ost collection officially well i'm sure
Starting point is 01:50:24 there's a i'm sure there's a more affordable way to get that music and all things considered yeah especially considering none of the soundtracks are complete like not a single soundtrack on that is is complete though it is a little it'll is a little troubling some of the dlc
Starting point is 01:50:39 tracks for older games are like 10 second loops because that's what those tracks are from the nests or the super nests oops and that's been pretty much it for me um unless i remember something at a later date uh this week if you go down a
Starting point is 01:51:00 pat stares at you'll be seeing more page may cry we're probably gonna try and finish don't make cry two this week don't make cry two uh hey woolly i don't know how much you remember about dmc2 i bet you forgot that game has the most amounts of lock on of any
Starting point is 01:51:18 game i've ever played it has three lock on states soft hard and off none yes because we discovered we discovered in the oil refinery you know you fight the you know fight the the menatar guy sure when you escape from that every enemy in the game you
Starting point is 01:51:43 get a soft lock on right like it automatically soft locks and you can maintain that soft lock on an enemy by holding r1 but sometimes you have to hit things in the environment and because soft lock is permanent you have to hold down right trigger to lock off so that you can actually aim your sword where
Starting point is 01:52:06 you want it to hit like levers so you have to hold lock on and then free no no you have to hold there's r1 is lock on yes r2 is lock off lock on okay yes okay so that you don't get soft locked so you need to soft lock to so like soft lock modifying buttons so like the bit where page is trying to
Starting point is 01:52:32 like get through a door where you have to hit three levers and she's like standing next to it and swinging her sword and her sword's going behind her because there's a bat in the sky she can't see can't even see the lock on symbol but daught they's trying to hit it with his sword and we're having a
Starting point is 01:52:50 yell at her no honey lock off lock off so you can hit the or you could stick around and find out the hard way it's really interesting because the first time she sat down to play it was oh that's not so bad and then the second time she sat down to play it she fought the fucking moth boss
Starting point is 01:53:05 that never fucking lands she we had to do this lock off shit we fight the minotaur and the oil refinery that fucking can't close the distance to you so you just shoot it and she got up from that going yo this game sucks and so it's like there was this moment of love like her playing through the first
Starting point is 01:53:26 couple of levels i'm like did i am i remembering it wrong is it not actually is it not as bad as i thought and it's like no it's not no one element is outrageous or broken it's all it's all the little things it's death by a thousand cuts it's her asking at mission 12 so what's happening
Starting point is 01:53:50 in the game and i don't know what to tell her because i don't think anything is happening well i mean look a demon infested tank is just a piece of shit garbage ass thing to do no matter what time of day it is well she had she had her moments with that she had her her her waking up to
Starting point is 01:54:07 justice the holding the lock on shoot button while eating cheerios there you go gave it the respect it deserved similarly face out of a skyscraper doing its shitty fucking orb 3d thing yeah there is that games yeah wild there is the dead silence there's the there's the parts where
Starting point is 01:54:30 dante just kind of stands around and looks at everybody but uh yeah okay and we're going to be playing more of that hopefully beating that out uh i was sent to code uh by an indie dev uh for a horror rpg that takes place in a supermarket
Starting point is 01:54:50 ah a spooky supermarket called sorry we're open which i'll be checking out uh and i'll also be checking out octo path 2 which drops this week and a sponsor stream for company of heroes 3 a series i really like and hopefully it's better than uh
Starting point is 01:55:08 donal war 3 definitely put on the apron and get the get the outfit and get a couple bags near you and turn the lights out or pussy no balls i don't have an apron in my house hey let me ask you ever you ever oh my fucking dad i realized i just i just realized i just realized that like
Starting point is 01:55:39 i'm starting to just become my dad in little tiny ways that i would never have expected because the decision making process is the same don't own an apron right you would wear an apron so that when you're cooking beef when if the beef spits at you because the pan's too hot
Starting point is 01:55:56 you got your apron to protect your shirt right i was cooking beef for for uh nachos last week and i was oh it spit at me i'm like oh i don't want my shirt to get stained just take my shirt off ow ow it's burning my skin and then my brain flashes to my dad cooking beef with his shirt off and i go dad why are you
Starting point is 01:56:21 complaining about it burning you put your shirt on and he's like nah it's fine and i'm like oh my god this is the exact sequence of thoughts that led to that to that memory it's it's a particularly easy solution um aprons aren't hard to acquire nor are they to come by but uh
Starting point is 01:56:45 that's the other way of doing it and uh if if i know the end of that path it's my old roommate's dad who uh was that took that to the next level he works as a cook at a chinese restaurant and he was uh welding shirtlessly in the backyard on the fence just keep the thing the mask on but the sparks hitting
Starting point is 01:57:11 the body who cares i feel nothing the oil and grease over the years have created a layer of immunity and dead fucking nerves well they do you ever you're you're living as an adult man now yes mm-hmm do you ever have this feeling where you think back to like your mom
Starting point is 01:57:31 or your your you know any relative that was older than you that you saw as a child and you're like why does everyone seem way tougher in my memories than i am right now like are we all just pussies i mean i'm within two feet of a little
Starting point is 01:57:50 Kirby plushy and i'm i'm i'm talking into a microphone about what video games i played the fuck are you talking about all right yeah okay yeah good what what me i i slept do you see any dirt on these hands do you like what the fuck are you asking like earlier this week
Starting point is 01:58:14 i slept funny and my back and my butt hurt a little bit and i was walking around going oh my back and i'm like i'm like embarrassed because i'm like wait a second my dad came home when his heart exploded with sciatica and he just
Starting point is 01:58:31 grumbled i should i should i should start grumbling and then i just tried to start grumbling instead i tried to pick something up and i went ah i'm like ah fuck come on come on
Starting point is 01:58:45 yeah man no the the brief moments i get when i was like you know making a stick or uh putting together a pc or doing some shit where you're just like you're in there working it for real reels you need those little like yeah i can do
Starting point is 01:59:00 this i'm a man i can i can i got the i'm handy i can i can solve the problems it's like no you can't you can solve them when they're preferably related to nerd shit but if it has nothing to do with that you're not you have no fucking clue what's going on
Starting point is 01:59:16 you know but um and last but not least for my week i need to put my wife on blast here she's discovered a new move sleeping so woolly long ago we discussed the wife move
Starting point is 01:59:34 of the roll over with the arms out so arms sleeping on the side roll over just right right in the face just right there's a new move the new move was me lying on my back with my arm up and all of a sudden i get two fingers
Starting point is 01:59:54 just poking poking i don't know about you but that's the symbol of like hey man wake up something something there's a there's a there's a man outside or there's a there's an animal or a bear right
Starting point is 02:00:07 huh what is it what oh nothing this was this was followed this was followed by three other occasions of the roll over and then the just the just right right in the face i don't understand what's happening
Starting point is 02:00:34 the wife is rolling over and her arms are just slapping me right in the mouth okay just slapping me right in the face and i go what what is something wrong and then i look over and just i'm just asleep
Starting point is 02:00:48 but these are new you haven't gotten used to these by now these are new discoveries they're not consistent they're not consistent it's only on a toss and turner and then my favorite part my favorite part
Starting point is 02:01:03 was i got my oh my god i'm exhausted oh oh no why oh you kept slapping me in the face at night honey and she and she looks at me and goes well why didn't she just get out of bed and go sleep somewhere else
Starting point is 02:01:19 you're right you're right that what that isn't that's my mistake wasn't that your solution already i i'm okay because like yeah i thought that was i thought that was expressly like the deal was it it needs to be perfect in the middle
Starting point is 02:01:39 of the night and unplug the fucking sleep robot and fucking and trudge to like a fucking couch or a guest bedroom i just don't want to get elbowed i should just kick her on the floor next time check in next week when we'll see the aftermath of me
Starting point is 02:02:02 kicking my wife on to the floor in the middle of the night should have parried it yes let's take a quicker from our sponsors you can check out more of this nonsense at twitch.tv slash pad stairs that yeah okay
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Starting point is 02:08:02 everything is good this week right well so we already talked about the million dollar a million dollars 2.2 million dollar price pool actually 1 million for the winner
Starting point is 02:08:14 of the capcom capcom pro tour 2023 capcom cup 10 uh yeah million dollars to the first place winner big big competitive numbers they also had some other announcements
Starting point is 02:08:29 for one thing now it makes sense why there was no character announced right for six because that announcement deserves its own yeah
Starting point is 02:08:40 oomph right you don't want to be like yo here's a fucking uh girl fong and and also a million dollars to top yeah the one would bury the other
Starting point is 02:08:51 and probably the million dollars to bury whatever their character announcement is maybe unless it was cammy in which case you know yeah
Starting point is 02:08:59 and i would bury it working who care what million to who gives a shit let me see that cammy footage so there you go so they write they they smartly
Starting point is 02:09:06 kind of set every set in advance no announcement and this is why but they also announced some other stuff including some
Starting point is 02:09:14 spinoff products there's like the street fighter mobile game there dual that we've been hearing about which is like yeah it seems to just be some gacha whatever
Starting point is 02:09:23 but they showed off street fighter vr which is gonna be an arcade game that is basically watching street fighter five models
Starting point is 02:09:34 attacking you in first person and sounds like shit it doesn't seem like the exact the whole problem with the idea of street fighter
Starting point is 02:09:43 in in any other angle is that their moves and attacks are designed to look amazing from profile view and insanely confusing when someone standing in front
Starting point is 02:09:55 of you doing it well they're hot they're hyper thin if they're right at you they're gonna you're gonna block this tatsu and you're still gonna
Starting point is 02:10:04 vomit because it looked really confusing and disorienting watching a foot fly by your face that quickly and then occasionally
Starting point is 02:10:13 there's these little punch points that you're gonna like crack open you know but you see Zangief doing the larry it at you from first person view
Starting point is 02:10:20 and it's just taking street fighter five assets and you know rotating the camera really is all that's happening here they did this a bit before with like an
Starting point is 02:10:28 AR game too and it it was similarly just like it doesn't it's not made for this the animation's not made for this it's not it's not great
Starting point is 02:10:36 like you'd have to design this from the ground up and not just reuse assets if you wanted it to be good you have to design it from the ground up with characters that haven't been designed
Starting point is 02:10:45 to be viewed from a certain angle for their entire life cycle ever and what that means is converting all of these street fighter characters to punch out characters
Starting point is 02:10:55 which are made to be seen from the front head on so that you can dodge left dodge right back up block and counter you know but that would require
Starting point is 02:11:04 more than just here's the assets of five go make something quick so yeah you know whatever it's it's gonna be a
Starting point is 02:11:14 Japanese arcade game and then it might get ported to like a headset but you know if you want to fucking feel sick maybe consider
Starting point is 02:11:23 giving it a shot I think they're also like announcing psvr2 stuff so seems like it might go hand-in-hand with that eventually
Starting point is 02:11:34 alongside that as well there was some psvr2 stuff for tetris effect connected which don't gotta get too in-depth
Starting point is 02:11:44 with that it's they just basically added a bunch of really competitive cool modes for like people that do worlds grandmaster challenge stuff
Starting point is 02:11:51 oh cool and they added like tatte mode for switch so you can play it vertically but the the biggest
Starting point is 02:11:58 and coolest announcement tetris related was the fucking trailer for the goddamn movie which we
Starting point is 02:12:05 heard about last year as there was going to be a tetris movie but it was not going to be a movie about the game tetris as much as it was the crazy story of its creation
Starting point is 02:12:17 and it being smuggled over to nintendo out of russia during the soviet era and everything to do with that so
Starting point is 02:12:27 the trailer came out and there's like an apple tv i think it's an apple tv movie or exclusive or whatever but yeah
Starting point is 02:12:34 like car chases and explosions and spy infiltration and yadda yadda to which my understanding is there's been some videos that have
Starting point is 02:12:48 broken down the history of tetris before bless you excuse me there's some weird shit and some crazy shit i don't know that the dramatization
Starting point is 02:13:00 of the exploding car chases is going to be particularly accurate probably not but one detail that was not there
Starting point is 02:13:08 is one of the co-creators of tetris that helped the main guy make the game i believe like also then
Starting point is 02:13:17 went on to like murder his entire family and himself cool and that seems to be not part of that's omitted what we've seen
Starting point is 02:13:27 there might be a little bit dark for a a romp about tetris that's played for gags um
Starting point is 02:13:36 so yeah that seems to be omitted seems to be like the angle is like you won't like tetris is fucking real you won't even believe
Starting point is 02:13:44 how fucking real this shit got but then not too real because that's just that's just dark but uh
Starting point is 02:13:54 either way sure tetris the movie it's happening the only part of that whole trailer that i was like
Starting point is 02:14:05 huh cool is the idea of they have fucking yamauchi at the end of the trailer is it yamauchi yeah yamauchi
Starting point is 02:14:12 yeah they have yamauchi there being old and evil yep got the shades on with the color just not bad
Starting point is 02:14:23 like yeah that's about right that's the second time i've seen yamauchi in a couple years in a video and that's way more than i would thought
Starting point is 02:14:33 he just got off the phone telling balmer to lick his balls uh the old nintendo had was a fucking a caricature of a man yeah
Starting point is 02:14:47 he's a fucking gangster that happened to run a playing card company that then made video games it easily it easily could have been a warlord in feudal times
Starting point is 02:14:58 yeah it's really weird how nintendo and sega just came from like direct crime adjacent like fucking businesses of like
Starting point is 02:15:11 playing cards equals gambling equals crime hana fuda arcades equal gambling equals crime like it's
Starting point is 02:15:22 it's right there but right next to it equals arcade games equal video games equals children equals crime
Starting point is 02:15:31 childhood entertainment so you know innocent fun happy go lucky built on fucking cut off fingers and
Starting point is 02:15:43 people yelling yeah big crime those like a dragon games are documentaries they're just not about the people you think they are well i mean
Starting point is 02:15:57 the the guy the the real yak is that watched yak is uh did pretty much say hey this is how it used to be back in the day but yeah that article is fake
Starting point is 02:16:05 actually oh no that article has been found out to be completely manufactured oh the part where they're like i could see someone
Starting point is 02:16:14 having an orphanage as a front for for money laundering why not 100% god pulled out of the dammit
Starting point is 02:16:22 yeah it's a bummer because it was great that thing fucking traveled that got legs well now someone actually needs to do this someone actually needs to go
Starting point is 02:16:32 find some real fucking yaks with the with the finger cut well that the problem is is like you know who'd be the best person in the world
Starting point is 02:16:42 to do it whoever's running the like a dragon franchise negotiate no he's gone remember right right he went to Tencent
Starting point is 02:16:50 but they can't do that because then they'll out the fact that they're that's like their cousins and their brothers
Starting point is 02:16:59 yeah and that that half the characters in these games are based off of real gangsters it would have to be done either in the documentary style
Starting point is 02:17:08 of like we're anonymizing the people who are still in the life or we're talking to you from behind bars yeah where what the fuck
Starting point is 02:17:16 else are you going to be doing back there eating delicious bread anyways so some hey can we get a yakuza a member
Starting point is 02:17:31 to get into react content can this cause there's an I know there's a bank robber who does react content on like bank robbery
Starting point is 02:17:41 scenes and oh yeah sure sure sure and and um I want to say Sammy the bull Gravano also has been doing
Starting point is 02:17:49 like podcasts and talking about that life and everything a bunch of honestly a bunch of just like
Starting point is 02:17:57 full on Long Island slash New York mobster era like get like mafiosos that came out of jail
Starting point is 02:18:07 recently have been just jumping on the podcast world and doing their whole like you know route rounds talking to people
Starting point is 02:18:15 and doing shit so an actual yakuza reacting to content is gangbusters fucking success
Starting point is 02:18:23 brilliant within 60 seconds of saying this I have been linked to x mob boss reacts to yakuza 0 perfect michael franzese
Starting point is 02:18:35 or franzese former capo regime in the colombo family is back on a special episode of experts react to yakuza 0 but it needs to be
Starting point is 02:18:46 specifically yakuza though because that's that's a culture of of of gangster that's unlike any other an italian guy to to be react
Starting point is 02:18:53 a new york italian guy to react to grand mafia or or whatever I want like a guy from Osaka to be reacting to
Starting point is 02:19:00 exactly exactly no that that LP needs to be done covered in a room of of smoke yeah somebody somebody
Starting point is 02:19:10 just put in the chat what a real thugs think of the wire that's stupid they're all they're on the set they're in the show a number of the people
Starting point is 02:19:20 in the show we're literally just straight off the fucking projects like hey do you want a job here do this
Starting point is 02:19:29 the the scariest person in the wire the little girl snoop that is the scariest lady I've ever seen in my life that's real
Starting point is 02:19:37 right back to crime as soon as she finished filming that was that was a that was a gig and then
Starting point is 02:19:44 yeah she's in jail right now she continued being snoop when the cameras turned off yes a hundred percent it's fucking crazy
Starting point is 02:19:53 um ah man you know this just this just flashed like a a perfect moment in my asian stream
Starting point is 02:20:02 earlier earlier in the week where somebody who is tangentially familiar played a couple yuku's games or watched my streams comes into the stream and goes
Starting point is 02:20:12 ha ha is one of the characters on screen a secret Korean to which I responded actually yes
Starting point is 02:20:23 when you said that one of the characters on screen is a secret Korean like you just you have to wonder if it's just is was there
Starting point is 02:20:37 because I want to hear if someone who actually again ran for the yakuza back in the day could tell you oh no secret Koreans
Starting point is 02:20:44 were a real problem we were always concerned about whether one of us was a secret Korean and who it might be you know last time we talked about this but like part of
Starting point is 02:20:55 the Italian mafia is a labyrinthine exhaustive process to determine that you are in fact Italian well and so that's why
Starting point is 02:21:06 so much fucking noise is made about the Irishmen that that that was treated as one of the fam you know because it's like
Starting point is 02:21:14 oh you're an outsider you usually shouldn't get this level of treatment but you're kind of crazy and you know apparently you
Starting point is 02:21:21 quote unquote paint houses for relevance so we'll use you but that's exactly it yeah it's uh I want to hear
Starting point is 02:21:29 someone say yeah actually I remember the time we found out there was a secret Korean you know when it's just
Starting point is 02:21:37 every once in a while you gotta keep your keep your eyes peeled you know what happens to my Google search history if I type in the phrase secret Korean
Starting point is 02:21:45 um hopefully oh it's a pop group okay is it either that or like a gif of a number of bow and arrows sticking out of the bushes
Starting point is 02:21:55 like a number of crossbows rather just from the rooftops god anyway um all right all right
Starting point is 02:22:06 other shits going on for example one of the ways there are many ways in which dead Titanfall games can no longer hurt us yeah
Starting point is 02:22:22 there are many ways one of the ways is when a number of apex and Titanfall veterans decide fuck this
Starting point is 02:22:30 and they leave respawn and they form a new studio called wild light entertainment so I don't hear about this specifically um
Starting point is 02:22:44 the uh game director and uh studio head as well as a number of vets that were on
Starting point is 02:22:58 both apex legends and titanfall are joining are up to make a team that's a remote first studio called wild light and they've already got a project
Starting point is 02:23:11 that they've been working on for a while unnamed single player adventure so let's see what happens it's it's fascinating because for my personal experience
Starting point is 02:23:27 I can think of Bethesda and I can think of capcom in situations of which people are working at these companies and they go so when are we going to get to do that project
Starting point is 02:23:37 that you've been telling us we're going to get to do later and there's only so many years you can do that to people who are really really just working there so they can get to the cool project
Starting point is 02:23:50 they want to make before they leave and they go we're going to make our own fucking shit so the thing is considering the name of the company was respawn right
Starting point is 02:24:01 this company should have been called dropship it should have been just you know absolutely just get on the dropship and fucking
Starting point is 02:24:10 boost the fuck out whatever they make doesn't necessarily have to involve super cool awesome robots dropping out of the sky that you can pilot that's fine
Starting point is 02:24:22 what I would expect of their DNA is that these are people that probably care a lot about first-person games that let you run on the walls real fast and do cool shit
Starting point is 02:24:33 it is it is interesting that we that this is like usually you don't hear what happened to make people leave
Starting point is 02:24:41 en masse and it's like no these people pretty clearly were working on a cool project that they were excited for that got sick and
Starting point is 02:24:50 and probably told that they're never going to get to work on a cool thing like that ever again and they would rather leave yeah do maintenance updates on apex
Starting point is 02:25:01 no it quite literally says that they were working on the canned titanfall apex project that just was that was just announced or rather that we found out about right
Starting point is 02:25:16 so yes the people that were working on that project that sounded like it would have been a cool that's never coming out are leaving
Starting point is 02:25:24 and making their own studio so yeah yeah wall running priority number one and we'll see what else comes you know
Starting point is 02:25:34 I would like a robot yeah I would too but it's fine if they don't it's an you know they're allowed to do whatever they want new new group can
Starting point is 02:25:41 take it in any direction but they've done some cool shit involving robots in the past hopefully they do it in the future I'm not going to tie them to it that's it can't hurt us huh
Starting point is 02:25:55 nope nope but you know who is actually good news so yeah I'll tell you speaking of good news with robots I don't know if you remember
Starting point is 02:26:11 that sick ass mecha game called metal warriors for the super nintendo that we do we played some time ago right so that thing is awesome
Starting point is 02:26:19 I was about to type it in and then you said super nintendo and it locked into place split screen really cool like a set of different mechs you can use
Starting point is 02:26:29 versus mode single player mode that's really awesome like anime cutscenes for the snes fire so that game was actually part of a series
Starting point is 02:26:39 called cybernator cybernator was the longer the bigger single player game that came out before that the snes port was kind of simplified
Starting point is 02:26:48 and dumbed down but still pretty alright there was a much sicker version called assault suit valken so that version
Starting point is 02:26:58 is now being released on the switch as assault suits valken declassified and again if you know metal warriors and or cybernator like this game is
Starting point is 02:27:08 fucking sick just a really cool platforming mecha game that also has a pretty intense like a story and and shit that got censored
Starting point is 02:27:20 when released in america that has been since uncensored for this game because war stuff happens so yeah this is a notable re
Starting point is 02:27:36 release plus extra almost I don't you know whatever you'd call it not a remake certainly but uh whatever a
Starting point is 02:27:47 re re thing reloaded but yeah want to definitely want to point that out as anyone who might enjoy the robots
Starting point is 02:27:56 as we were just discussing um I like robot it's good it's good it has a real cool thing to it as well where like you can walk around
Starting point is 02:28:06 side scrolly and aim it up and down and shoot but then you can like hit like a dash button and then like you just kind of skate you know
Starting point is 02:28:14 and you just become like a little like roving like a little skate robot and then you can switch between the two and like jump while skating and then boost in the air hold your position
Starting point is 02:28:23 aim down it's fucking cool man there are I can't think of more than fucking two games that incorporate skating the way you just described one of them is tribes obviously
Starting point is 02:28:39 and one of them is the one you just mentioned and I'm like that is a fucking cool style of movement that nobody does yeah you get a little bit of it with virtual on
Starting point is 02:28:51 but they're really just boosting everywhere but it kind of feels like it but no I've always wanted a video game equivalent of Raide the Blade from Trigun which is the samurai
Starting point is 02:29:08 enemy that he fights that has skates and a sword and between those two keeps up with the guns you know yeah anyway
Starting point is 02:29:24 other stuff going on big old fun at blizzard oh boy oh yeah yeah blizzard's going good finally good good news for blizzard
Starting point is 02:29:33 they need it they've been having a rough time well it turns out because last time we talked about it the stack ranking that was being discussed was this the thing where basically you were forced to tell employees
Starting point is 02:29:44 that we're doing fine that they were actually not doing fine this was the system that that metrics needed you to have some people in development even though they were doing quite okay and people left the studio over that
Starting point is 02:30:00 because they didn't want a shit on their team well blizzard has spoken out about that they've come back particularly the president Mikey Barra did an open Q&A at the company
Starting point is 02:30:16 to address a lot of the stuff that's been going on and apparently the Q&A went so poorly that immediately after it everyone that was there privy to the meeting which was a private company meeting
Starting point is 02:30:31 just started yelling online about how fucking stupid it went and uh all the pre-screened questions that were answered on all the topics including stack ranking and remote work network remote work practices
Starting point is 02:30:45 getting rolled back and people getting profit sharing bonuses reduced all of the shit that was uh you know hot button was just given either the most hand-wavy non-answers
Starting point is 02:30:59 or doubling down and people are just kind of leaking that it was a complete shit show yeah it's been it's been my understanding
Starting point is 02:31:12 go like digging through all this crap over the past year Blizzard had a fucked up culture that was determined by all the guys who started the company most of them being like total assholes and that filtering down and a bunch of people
Starting point is 02:31:30 who still work there are like fucking normal and every time something bad happens that is directly the fault of all the people running the company they somehow just piss downwards all over the remaining employees
Starting point is 02:31:50 that are trying to do their job normally and people are quitting and quitting and when people quit more piss comes down to fix the problems caused by the earlier piss yeah
Starting point is 02:32:05 well it seems like anytime like this type of shit is in place it's probably been that way for a long time but if there's potential mergers on the horizon there's gonna be extra piss to to reach to get
Starting point is 02:32:22 there's extra piss chambers in reserves for the excited merger merger release you know the merger stuff is getting super funny because the FCC is like really putting a hold on it and examining them and the UK or
Starting point is 02:32:40 or European trade commission just literally said nah the companies are too big you have to you can merge but you have to divest yourself of call of duty or Activision
Starting point is 02:32:52 or Blizzard in order to go through with the merger and so as a result I don't know if you saw this but like fucking Microsoft came out and was like yeah Game Pass actually sucks
Starting point is 02:33:07 and we lose tons of money on it um and it's and it's a big mistake and it's actually very unsuccessful um and they're all kind of trying to like peacock themselves
Starting point is 02:33:21 and roll around in a pile of shit in order to like make the merger look like better like it's not a bunch of successful super companies we're all actually falling the fuck apart over here so it wouldn't be that big of a deal if we merged so let's just let's just rub some dirt on our faces and walk around barefoot for a bit
Starting point is 02:33:40 so like this may actually be part of that to intentionally anything negative that comes from these companies in the next couple months is is is on purpose like intentionally piss all the employees off yes no so the merger looks better
Starting point is 02:33:54 now I know what you're thinking did I just shit myself why yes but little did you know that's actually a plan to increase my profits by the end of the quarter find out how wild
Starting point is 02:34:07 also from what I can tell the turnover at blizzard right now is really bad oh yeah I mean well so that the first guy walked and then like a number of people are kind of following suit and that they're just like if the if the if the meeting here
Starting point is 02:34:22 leads to the official company statements that are backing up the things he says the people are like yeah okay well fuck this I don't want to be here this is not what I signed up for and blizzard is one of those companies
Starting point is 02:34:32 that's always been very campus culture sort of like part of the tribe you know as as as we say there like it's it's a thing it's a thing man
Starting point is 02:34:43 that's that's the silicone valley way of doing it they're one of them companies and so if you feel as if you're you know not welcome and they're not a family anymore and all of that like
Starting point is 02:34:54 pseudo cultish behavior is not quite kicking in then yeah it's an easy thing to be like well I'm gonna take my 10-year resume and go to another company and fuck that oh my god
Starting point is 02:35:04 there's no time it's breaking news shut up your guide to the Diablo 4 open beta guys so we're gonna have a Diablo 4 open beta
Starting point is 02:35:15 this news broke coincidentally on friday wow breaking right in the middle of some of these quotes it is it is it is like
Starting point is 02:35:33 they're they are the kings right like there's no other company ever that just times every single like they hold off on announcements for when bad things will happen like they're sitting on them and they know something bad's gonna come out
Starting point is 02:35:54 and so they just they just hit a button it's like breaking news overwatch 2 yes what about it yeah yeah remember
Starting point is 02:36:05 remember overwatch 2 look at you look over here so some of the quotes that have been coming in are yeah when people were asking about the people were talking about the 58% profit sharing
Starting point is 02:36:26 is the fact that only 58 blah employees were told that oh they'd only receive 58% of their profit sharing bonus and things like that and the the money fuckery to which Mikey Barrow said
Starting point is 02:36:39 if you think the executives are making a lot of money and you aren't you're living in a myth fucking Bobby Connick still works there like all right so just drop a leaderboard then
Starting point is 02:36:54 drop a leaderboard keep it simple right show the lowest and show the highest and then what are there what's the
Starting point is 02:37:04 what's the rate is it a 10 to 1 is it a 300 to 1 because sometimes you know they go CEOs can be in the 300 to 1 range of the lowest to highest paid employees
Starting point is 02:37:14 what's your ratio where the receipts oh man so i didn't see that i didn't see that response you had no wonder people came out of that fucking meeting just going crazy
Starting point is 02:37:24 if you think the executives are making a lot of money and you aren't you're living in a myth in regards to uh yeah then there's stuff about returning to office plans and stuff like that
Starting point is 02:37:35 yeah that was a big one everybody's got to return to the office why we've been working out of office for like three years nah well you got to at the end of the day
Starting point is 02:37:45 we want uh we want people to be happy and if decisions about being happy don't align with where we're going and you won't be happy then you have to do what will make you happy in other words get fucked
Starting point is 02:37:58 say really wordy way of saying nah get fucked though so it obviously depends on the company it depends on the industry but i feel like with the pandemic and i guess we're in post pandemic now i'm not sure i'm not a doctor
Starting point is 02:38:12 i'm not even gonna make that distinction but uh work from home was always been work work work from home was told to most as impossible right i have a friend of mine he worked in in uh
Starting point is 02:38:25 call stuff like telecom stuff and every time somebody would be told you gotta hey man i'm horribly ill i'm disabled you gotta i can can i work from home nah it's impossible you gotta be in the office yep um
Starting point is 02:38:38 and then it was like very obviously completely possible yep like doing telecom calls on your fucking cell phone like no but no but i don't no but i don't like it though but it just makes me
Starting point is 02:38:47 it makes me nervous that i don't i don't like it i can't i can't see you and stare down in the back of your neck yeah uh i can't i can't control you as adequately even though you're actually working better and then and then we ran into the issue
Starting point is 02:38:59 of like it seems very obvious that these companies have these like shit zillion dollar leases on some of the best real estate in downtown zones in major cities and those leases are going to waste if there's nobody in the office
Starting point is 02:39:16 and there's a bunch of tax fuckery with that also a lot of hardcore type a businessman hate their family sure and and and want an office to go to sure um but all of that
Starting point is 02:39:30 and now we're in the return to return to office and um there's hard line and then there's soft and the hard lines well hey everybody's gotta come back so a lot of people like to discover that they suddenly have staffing shortages
Starting point is 02:39:45 because people would rather fucking quit then go back to the office so here's the thing too a lot of uh so i know people as well that are in situations where um their home set up is not ideal like they're in a situation where
Starting point is 02:39:59 like they have like children on top of them as they're working and they're also or they're in like a one-room apartment and it fucking sucks and they they are like no i actually want to get out of this situation i don't want to be there right and the uh solution in many cases
Starting point is 02:40:13 for where my friends are working is cool the office is open if you want to come to the office it's not if you it you can stay at home too and you give people the option to do whatever works best for their situation
Starting point is 02:40:24 that's great it is not affecting product productivity you're totally fine to take whatever comforts you prefer in this case it's not about giving the option it's about again forcing a certain way of doing it even though it's been proven to be completely
Starting point is 02:40:43 worthless listen guys i listen i person who is totally not pretending to be mike yabara or any senior staff left at blizzard when there's no one in the office there's no one i can inappropriately pull my penis out and do a dance
Starting point is 02:41:05 and piss on them and have the power over their employment to make them not tell anyone when there's no one actually in this office so oh come on back to your chairs slots
Starting point is 02:41:26 yeah i suppose you can make that leap pat i suppose you could i suppose there's some way to to string that twine to that other cork on the cork board is that possibly exaggerated conceivably however
Starting point is 02:41:53 i'm gonna go ahead and say however i'm gonna go ahead and say uh there possibly was like a person who thought ah i want to get back in the office with x so that i can get close at some point and and probably was like oh i missed the company parties where this is the way that it works i go up here
Starting point is 02:42:21 and then you just soften the edges off that that's realistic that's what actually probably exists yes that's probably the real the real version for sure that said uh much like every other place that i've heard about this i feel like blizzard is going to lose more staff than they are expecting
Starting point is 02:42:42 yeah um and allow that to uh you know hey it's all deliberate whatever goes wrong the hey merger what's the problem look how shit we are all the companies in shambles dude oh it doesn't even matter if we merge come on look how terrible we're doing come on yeah um anyway so uh uh that continues
Starting point is 02:43:11 and uh people are very upset they're not they're not okay they're not okay with it um speaking of quitting i want to see i storm the indy company please yeah i mean it'd be too big in scope but sub teams probably with a more hard edge focus sure would make sense uh speaking of quitting um i was just kind of i
Starting point is 02:43:43 caught wind of this and i have no idea i had no idea what the deal was but um there's a recent uh hold up hold up i'm being told that two different companies already exist using that naming convention wonderful yeti and frost giant there you go um yeah so there's this manga called uh cipher academy and it's a
Starting point is 02:44:08 new shonen jump series and uh basically the news was that the translator uh fucking quit yeah i saw this and then i was like how bad could it how bad could it be i went and looked at some of the panels i'd fucking quit too holy shit like i was like what's the why is this a story what happened what
Starting point is 02:44:32 is the cipher academy and you go and you look at what the translation is and it's actual nonsense because we laugh at the dumb like kojima puns and the english word play that a lot of japanese games and visual novel style stories love to just lean into and how a bunch of that doesn't work when you go into english
Starting point is 02:44:57 but you're gonna try because i the somnium files needs to be about ai but also the i but also i the name but also i the love and and you're just like oh my like can we is it just really is this everything is this all of the depth is that everyone that has a name made out of hiragana or katakana or kanji can be
Starting point is 02:45:18 read in multiple ways and then those multiple things readings mean different personality trait like is that it and it's like yeah that's a thing and some people are so obsessed with that that it goes to the level of cipher academy where this appears to be the whole deal of the most
Starting point is 02:45:38 recent chapters in particular the last three have had disclaimers on them where the translator was like yeah this shit's fucking crazy and i tried but fuck and then you click it's wild you see a translator note that basically reads i gave up here's what's happening and you see the wordplay battle that's
Starting point is 02:45:59 taking place and basically you have to give answers that are only half syllables from the kana syllable syllabary and then draw from cards that are like half syllables of kana and then create a list of answers to trivia and then the positioning of said trivia needs to be stacked in a
Starting point is 02:46:21 most verbose to least like most letters to least letters like reverse pyramid at which and that's like the first step of whatever the word cipher battle is happening here and so like the there's on the left side you're looking at mad libs style fill in the blanks for your questions
Starting point is 02:46:44 and then you have to create answers and then match them over into the fucking madness absolute complete utter insanity that is never to contextualize just how confusing it is all i can come up with is it is attempting to translate into a non uh latin or german based language
Starting point is 02:47:06 what the phrase buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo means despite all of those words retaining different like meanings yes keeping the meanings the same keeping it but keeping the repetition the same in jab it like it's impossible it doesn't work yeah it just doesn't go
Starting point is 02:47:31 uh uh yeah it's and it's and it's but it's also again just predicated on the fact that the depth of these buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo or tantan tantan tantan you know like it's going into that creating a whole fucking series out of it and just puns and jerking off to the puns and and and switch ups
Starting point is 02:47:58 and you're looking at it and it's like it's completely this is not something that english speakers can read like you can't actually get it because the results don't transfer over the questions double meanings don't fit the the puzzle questions don't make any sense to you and then the answers have
Starting point is 02:48:15 no connection with the questions to begin with um and it's just two characters staring at these cards freaking out over the choices and the results and like at certain pages you scroll down and you just see like um so half the page vertically is the art of the character
Starting point is 02:48:32 and the other half is just the text flying syllables that are transliterated like a newspaper almost i don't know what it means um so yeah no uh no fucking uh no shame in quitting on this fucking garbage um and i'm really impressive apparently apparently it's incredibly smart and cool but i don't know and i never will and like
Starting point is 02:49:03 the gibberish of like someone like the after the big insane breakout moments where characters are sweating freaking out and difficulty level is at six and you're seeing english text of like why don't wxrs go xwxy how long wxll pxoplx xxpxlxngxxchothxr you and me both man it's fooling crazy why not and it's your brain is supposed to
Starting point is 02:49:40 do the thing where you can see the beginning and the end of the letters and go why don't why how long will people keep killing each other anyways um good luck godspeed god bless no one will no one will blame you no one will will look at this and and think uh you fucking ran away uh kumar
Starting point is 02:50:08 hats off i have an example i have an example i just saw somebody in chat um mention it and i went and checked on the steam forums to see if people were talking about it and they are people asking if baba is you could ever be translated into japanese and the answer is no
Starting point is 02:50:30 it doesn't work absolutely it'll pause no hold on pause uh i'm gonna disagree because how does are we would have to first talk to a japanese programmer and ask if there's any coding that takes place in native japanese and how that functions right if coders are obviously just using english functions i don't i
Starting point is 02:50:53 don't mean that i mean are there any net languages of code that are native if so it would be possible but you we need to know how that is structured because the idea of baba's you is a puzzle game but it's actually teaching you how programming works you know i'm being told by multiple
Starting point is 02:51:12 people that later levels are highly specific to english syntax is there okay okay because my my my my thought immediately in from what i've seen is that this is a parallel programming game so like if you want to learn um if you want to translate this you would have to do so in a way that other
Starting point is 02:51:34 languages uh teach programming you know i'm also being told over and over and over that english is the language of code yeah if you're doing fuck if you're doing anything standard they you know c plus plus on beyond whatever fuck all of that stuff
Starting point is 02:51:48 i yeah i'm that's why i'm specifically going like are there people that have developed languages that are specifically not you know um but uh anyway hey if you want to talk about japanese wordplay being fucking translated into english and missing the point you want to talk about joe dio
Starting point is 02:52:10 uh so part nine has started it's called jojo lands and the protagonist's name is joe dio joestar that's that's about all i know so here's the thing the translation on the page says this is joe dio joestar but it's actually kono joe dio da oh yeah there you go yeah for sure so it
Starting point is 02:52:40 is yeah it is referencing good old good old dio's entrance of course well make make no mistake like when giorno giovanna showed up the text uh uh in the um thing said uh gio gio's bizarre adventure so like it's absolutely intentional with that um yeah uh we'll see i don't i don't gen z joestar
Starting point is 02:53:08 um i know there's a big long opening chapter and i know there's some stuff going on but a lot of it seems predicated on you know this is in fact a sequel to part eight so um just uh i'm i'm i'm i'm dodging it for now okay all right uh let's take some letters hey if you want to send in a letter go in and
Starting point is 02:53:32 send it to castle super beast mail at gmail dot com that's castle super beast mail gmail dot com oh did oh do you know what his goddamn stand name is the hustle it's the hustle god it's so good that is so good i fucking that is the best stand name ever so like done the hustle is the best
Starting point is 02:53:54 goddamn stand name yes is that not it then who's not it's november rain shut up it's november rain so it belongs to someone else then whoever's a different whoever has that stand has the best stand name in all of judjo history i don't care that's done that is the goddamn sickest the hustle
Starting point is 02:54:19 oh that's strong all right all right what do we got for letters all right here's one coming in from danko says hello sold on sale pat and full priced woolly um first time writing to the podcast but i had a weird discussion with someone about the idea that games should be priced on quality
Starting point is 02:54:43 the whole point they were making was games should start at a base price of twenty five dollars and the price would go higher or lower depending on the amount of positive or negative reviews the game gets only people who actually paid for the game can review it um in my case though that would be a
Starting point is 02:55:01 terrible idea because a long number of reasons like people bombing a game to lower the price on purpose or people cheerleading studios uh specifically as their fans and um i thought it would be an interesting topic for you guys to talk about keep up the good work from danko um in a fair world in which robots
Starting point is 02:55:22 don't exist and people are objective this would be a really cool idea but this is an insanely stupid idea in the real world we live in because it directly implies that the best video games become immensely unaffordable also what no no no that's not what would happen in this system what incentive is there for any
Starting point is 02:55:43 human to rate any game other than straight zero garbage all video games become free providing that though this providing that there is not a baked in well if the game flops were not making another one right so perish i get free video game now then there's that but the idea that there is a game that it would
Starting point is 02:56:07 ever be treated and reviewed highly and respected it means oh like this the later you get to it the more fucking expensive it is and that's just a stupid system to have there's no benefit to that the idea of like oh your bad game should cost less and yadda yadda is like you that's layer one of the economic thought uh
Starting point is 02:56:28 the the reality of that kind of situation this is a really dumb idea a version of this idea does exist currently there is a version and that version is buying in early access game the day it hits early access when it is way way worse than the version that will eventually come out you will assuredly get it for much much
Starting point is 02:56:53 cheaper there's that as far as it can be pushed there's the other version of that in reality is after a certain amount of time games go on discount unless they're nintendo games and if the game is particularly bad you might catch it in the bargain bin sooner than others because they're trying to get rid of their
Starting point is 02:57:13 stock for example this weekend i was considering buying uh midnight suns the marvel xcom game because it was 40 percent off despite coming out last month and i was like should i get it and then i was informed i'll just wait till the dlc is out and then it'll go 50 percent off and i was like you're right
Starting point is 02:57:34 i could do that however that is not a nintendo game yeah um never go on sale ever and then there's just the absolute batshit pay structure that would become like um working on a game like in any capacity as a team like you don't know whether you can keep the lights on or not
Starting point is 02:57:59 because you just it's it's at the whims and you know there could be a system of like you know well here's your salary versus the profits it makes or doesn't make but there's just every like once you think about it beyond that first step of good gay like bad games should cost less and like that that's the first and then
Starting point is 02:58:20 everything after that completely falls apart uh so no dumb idea terrible it's a fun thought experiment yeah i suppose but it just it just it's divorced from the reality of the world we live in and how people like make money and survive and fucking get paid
Starting point is 02:58:37 yeah there's a there's an old there's an old like world war two era uh uh military saying that may that reminds me of the situation which is no plan ever succeed it survives contact with the enemy but in this case enemy is reality right the instant this idea even brushes up against how anything actually works it
Starting point is 02:58:58 would fall apart into a million pieces yeah and i would i would go i would say that in fact i'm sure there's a ton of schools of uh of economic thought that you know are fantastic on paper and when placed in the real world uh fall apart like a stack of cards uh you know and and it's it's fun to
Starting point is 02:59:22 think about and hypothesize about but like you know until you're seeing it in a real situation where people have real incentives or disincentives um keep it on paper uh all right here is one from steve who says um hey pat and woolly uh the recent dead space and
Starting point is 02:59:50 Metroid Prime releases have me baffling my battling my brain worms and i hope you can help what qualifies a title as a remake versus a remaster versus a re-release versus a reboot it's starting to become a serious concern like Shadow the Colossus, FF1, RE4 all these games have multiple versions and varying
Starting point is 03:00:10 degrees of fidelity and content with as in popular classics um they're probably doomed to receive further releases even in the years to come should the industry standardize these terms and label them accordingly or do we need to forever remember the year uh of the game's release as a part of the title like Doom 2016
Starting point is 03:00:30 okay just saw somebody in the chat just yell out soft seaboo and i'm like yeah perfect what a perfect so yes it's marketing and yes like there are people who lie and or misuse these things but to me when they're not being misused there are clear definitions for what i would say that's right yeah
Starting point is 03:00:53 uh i'll take it away fuck it so your re-release is hey it is relatively unchanged it's a port it has been ported so a re-release would be for example every version of Resident Evil 4 to date right yeah the end goal was to recreate the experience played elsewhere if anything changed it was unintentional
Starting point is 03:01:19 because fidelity is the number one priority right your remaster is uh it's also a port however they have gone in and they have actually fussed with the guts they want it to run faster they're gonna clean up some textures they're gonna widescreen it they're gonna you know do
Starting point is 03:01:42 all the things to clean it up and and have it pretend to be a video game released in the year that you are actually going to purchase it a remake is more than that i would say remake is the point in which large scale assets are being completely replaced yeah the overall game is still doing
Starting point is 03:02:10 the same thing and the events are more and the there might be extras and things changed about you know the combat and so on but for the most part it's the same game redone um a reboot can just be a completely different game that has nothing beyond like the titular like
Starting point is 03:02:30 names of people and or things but there doesn't have to be any common threads whatsoever right so if you want if you want the series that you can look at that has all of these look at resident evil and we'll take resident evil one resident evil one director's cut is a
Starting point is 03:02:51 re-release that has slightly slightly different music or the Saturn port would be a re-release of resident evil one however then you have resident evil remake which is a ground up complete asset like brand new game a hundred percent new asset
Starting point is 03:03:09 new sound effect new mechanic everything but it's built on the old blueprint then you have the re-release of resident evil remake that is actually a remaster on the pc and modern platforms many years later in that it is the resident evil remake but it's actually just being cleaned up
Starting point is 03:03:31 and had widescreen added to it and modern graphics options yeah i think a lot of these ants i think a lot of these names also get a little bit more clarified if you think about them in context of film right if a film gets re-released they grabbed the old 16 millimeter or so
Starting point is 03:03:50 they hit the real and then they're putting that back out so that you can see it in the state that it was released in in the same aspect ratio if you're seeing a remaster you're probably seeing something that either is adjusting the the the quality of the of the actual
Starting point is 03:04:12 film you know they could be they could be using music that's like a better recording of the same music better clearer audio for at the time and they're taking the same pieces and using better quality versions of the same pieces and putting them back together
Starting point is 03:04:28 in some cases they'll upscale go to 4k or whatever hey man it's in technicolor now can you fucking believe that exactly and that's the the mastering process remastering refers to like yeah the mastering process of bringing all the assets together the assets are now sharper than they
Starting point is 03:04:42 could have been when we first combined them back in the 70s a remake will be we hired new actors and built new sets and filmed a new version of the same events unfolding the way they did in that last movie
Starting point is 03:05:01 and then the reboot is uh this is a brand new movie and the main character and the place the story takes place in are the same but everything else is different and then a soft reboot is mostly the same events but it somehow contains the
Starting point is 03:05:16 old continuity and then a soft sea boot is a sequel to the old continuity that still technically retains it while mimicking the old events but still technically remaining within canon shout out Star Trek
Starting point is 03:05:30 like the new halloween movies are actually soft sea boots as Star Trek as well yeah and i'm stupid and that but it didn't exist until as far as i know i might be wrong on this i don't think that existed until the
Starting point is 03:05:46 Star Trek moment happens and you go oh fuck they're connected right yeah that was that what that is a soft sea boot you're right yeah that's where that concept even even came along
Starting point is 03:06:02 um that as far as i know um yeah so anyways is like the worst term of the world oh when you when you but when you when you put these in in in that kind of context it kind of lines it up a little bit more
Starting point is 03:06:15 but that doesn't mean people are going to use them honestly or not irresponsibly especially since we're in a world where people also start like just copying other things so like oh the matrix reloaded comes out and now
Starting point is 03:06:29 fucking 18 other things are using reloaded as a word for sequel you know or similarly revelations you know as as you throwing that after the end of your franchise as a word for like the big one
Starting point is 03:06:42 this time like people still do that it's still super weird to see reloaded used outside of like matrix context because it's like what's about to say outside of the pirate copies of film because it's it's also like
Starting point is 03:06:58 you know directly referencing the like the code nature of the thing they're discussing and then you know well yeah there's a Metallica albums but anyway
Starting point is 03:07:11 all this to say that you go you re and then marketing word can can barely be trusted these days to go to the heart of this person's question Metroid primes remaster is the most confusing
Starting point is 03:07:27 because the title of that game is wrong that is a Metroid Prime remake that is not a remaster it is a total asset redo like it's called it's called remastered it is called Metroid Prime remastered yes it is not it should it should be
Starting point is 03:07:48 called remake yes yeah okay uh yeah no if they no if it's if it's new code it's a remake if it's old code but be run in a you know environment that can run it natively then that's a remaster
Starting point is 03:08:09 all right let's take one more coming in from brisbee who says dear kite flyer and pie floor eater a few weeks ago Hitman 3
Starting point is 03:08:23 got a free update that added one and two to it changed the game's name to hitman world of assassination and added a roguelike mode a roguelite mode called freelancer which is supposed to be end game content and features maps
Starting point is 03:08:37 and added randomness and complications not seen in the main game yeah i was i was talking about that the other day the new mode is great yeah so i've heard i've heard the new hitman freelancer is is super sick i've enjoyed it and i've had fun watching people stream it
Starting point is 03:08:51 i've caught a couple people however a couple streamers diving straight into freelancer with zero hitman experience just smashing their face into a wall repeatedly because it's the new thing a few of the people i watched doing this eventually picked it up
Starting point is 03:09:05 but mostly just failed and then shelved it have you either of you done something considerable like this for content creation purposes or in your own time just trying to get into the new hotness without any foreign knowledge of the game has it ever happened accidentally
Starting point is 03:09:21 in this case it was the new mode the second option when you started the game i could see someone easily starting it on accident if not all right do i ever get into stuff
Starting point is 03:09:33 that i don't know anything about for content creation purposes literally every single week yeah i would say i try to avoid it as much as possible because i fucking do find that shit to be pretty lame most of the time
Starting point is 03:09:55 or hilarious see dmc5 guy bro what the fuck is this even game it's down to dancing i don't i don't have an issue with that just go into it with the fucking open mind no yeah yeah yeah well this is this is the thing
Starting point is 03:10:09 right if if so if paul marketing looks at you and says this is the perfect time to get into the mass effect franchise right and you hold to that then you're gonna have a whole lot of people that are just like
Starting point is 03:10:23 yeah new hotness jump on it this is what we do who cares what's happening or why if you have like not if you have a kind of like not respect but if you just don't really give a fuck about the narrative of the things you're playing
Starting point is 03:10:38 really in general because usually it's like i don't know usually it's background noise it's sports or something other something you just generally ignore you're not really paying attention to it that much it's meant to just
Starting point is 03:10:49 serve a purpose as fluff on your stream or so then yeah like i that type of person i can see just like not giving a fucking going what's popular what's trending let's go into that
Starting point is 03:10:59 i'm gonna try to avoid it when i can sometimes if i can't avoid it i'll usually like either embrace the fact that i i know that i don't know a lot and or there's a chaotic reason why this is happening
Starting point is 03:11:14 so yakuza obviously is a franchise i want to start playing and i have but every but it's been very clear and open about like how uh playing that game
Starting point is 03:11:26 beginning to end and ever and doing each one of them is like a prohibitive thing to do so there's an explanation behind like how we're uh i'm going about it you know i'm trying to think of it
Starting point is 03:11:40 any other other examples like that like for example with nir i went into automata knowing that there was loose connections at best but not really important ones initially and then
Starting point is 03:11:53 i was like well i'm still going to go do my homework and caught up on all of the original nir and all of the draken guard stuff and all of the which we call it
Starting point is 03:12:11 yeah all of the all of the draken guard stuff and the summaries so i i felt like okay i did i'm gonna do some prep work i'm not gonna go and sit down and get through them
Starting point is 03:12:20 but clems did a pretty good job with those videos priming the situation so sometimes you can kind of go into it doing your best at it but i have to say i disagree with everything you just said extremely strongly
Starting point is 03:12:36 okay i get i get it and i used to think that way very very much i used to be like i can't start this tv show because i haven't watched all of the tv shows
Starting point is 03:12:47 leading up to it in the 60s right i i have done so much research and so much playing up to the thing and so much like prep for the game
Starting point is 03:13:06 that i really want to play which leads to me just fucking how do i put this just abandoning it i think back to there was an excellent take by
Starting point is 03:13:25 now chris wolfhart formerly mr feels which is when you're looking at something that you're like i would like oh that video game looks really cool do i have to
Starting point is 03:13:37 do do i have to play the prequels to understand it and people go yeah there's a there's a lot that you you would get out of it by playing the prequels and then they go
Starting point is 03:13:47 but i don't want to play the prequels i want to play the new game anything other than just playing the thing you actually want to play will result in you just completely abandoning it
Starting point is 03:14:01 for the vast majority of cases let's take which are three is an example is there an enormous amount of like continuation and depreciation for playing which are three if you've played which are one and two absolutely
Starting point is 03:14:19 if i were to tell you hey man before playing which are three you should play which are one and two it's really important people play which are one for about 10 minutes and then fucking quit yes leave so i am currently engaged in that
Starting point is 03:14:33 exact mentality with xeno blade i don't really like xeno blade one two and the way they play i played xeno blade three and really liked the way it plays however i know that events from one and two
Starting point is 03:14:46 are going to be tangentially or somewhat involved in that storyline and i'm trying to work past the way my brain works to just fucking go ahead and do it yakuza which you mentioned is a really great example yakuza now has three
Starting point is 03:15:02 has three starting points it will soon have four zero seven judgment or lost judgment
Starting point is 03:15:16 ishin because it's completely separate and then later with kiryu's side story which is like a renewal of his character right as somebody who went through one two three four five six and then to seven
Starting point is 03:15:30 the amount of like stuff that i got from going through all those games and then going into seven oh and zero also was like relatively minor
Starting point is 03:15:42 compared to the fact that i knew that kiryu existed okay so i'm gonna forget things as this goes because i was making notes and i kind of forgot so some some of the stuff but the the main thing so okay the stuff like witcher for example
Starting point is 03:15:56 is absolutely a great example because from everything you're you've described about that over over these years the impressions poison the the impression i got is like you don't have to right now when somebody asks
Starting point is 03:16:09 so that so that kind of tells me some some series some games some franchises are going to be easier to go back to than others if it's very difficult to do so you might have a hard time with it right
Starting point is 03:16:22 but when somebody asks like do i have to go back to x to get into y that question is very open and that can be like two things i can think of that can be a will i be lost completely in y
Starting point is 03:16:37 if i don't know anything about x or there can be a will x enhance y and its highlights but y on its own is still fine yeah those are the two main questions that's what you're trying to get out of it
Starting point is 03:16:53 three is like nonsensical if you do not play one and two right um like it is baffling like who is who the fuck is garris why do you love my cock so much so when you're describing the cases for yourself
Starting point is 03:17:06 and how you've gotten into those and what and the amount that you're looking into it and then like bouncing off of the thing even though you did all that prep and such this is not a jojo part skipping discussion it's not a jojo part skipping discussion
Starting point is 03:17:20 however my thing with that is i know myself enough to know how i want those questions answered i know what i enjoy right so the i like when i see that thing of
Starting point is 03:17:36 like oh you know statistically if you read the last page of a book it actually amplifies and makes your experience better and whatever i say fuck you i know myself
Starting point is 03:17:46 i know that i hate that i know that i experience the thing less enjoyably every goose bump i ever read right i i if that applies to you then that's nice but i know myself to know that that
Starting point is 03:18:00 makes my experience worse furthermore i know that like i'm someone who's willing to put myself out in terms of context by going into something a little older and more something that you don't necessarily
Starting point is 03:18:13 have to get into i'm willing to go do that in some cases because i know that i enjoy the little tie-ins the little links and stuff they're minor in some cases for me though i really enjoy those things
Starting point is 03:18:26 so i put an emphasis where personally i'm going to try to maximize what i would enjoy out of this right going into the witcher three is something i'd i want to do and i you know
Starting point is 03:18:38 can say i would plan to do in the future at some point but like i know that like based on what i'm hearing about that i would not go through and try to play one
Starting point is 03:18:48 or two but i would definitely try to go and like watch them i would try to go in somebody's youtube yeah i would try to get as much context as i could
Starting point is 03:18:57 going into it like with nir so that i could fully enjoy when i get to that point and i know that like if i had not known about the tie-ins
Starting point is 03:19:09 in nir's case it would have still been a very good game but the little bit of flavoring that it added was enough for me to really emotionally love the returning characters
Starting point is 03:19:24 the returning elements those were the strongest bits that i'm like oh fuck the history of what that means is something that is more important to me than it might be to someone else
Starting point is 03:19:34 that's like eh it's not worth my time as somebody who played through the original nir and all four endings right and
Starting point is 03:19:44 watched every Clems video repeatedly for all the dragon guard information i needed and then went into automata i was overwhelmed with the feeling that in terms of
Starting point is 03:19:57 foreign knowledge i had completely wasted my time and that everything that i care about in your automata has absolutely fucking shit
Starting point is 03:20:08 all to do with dragon guard or nir okay see that's where i just that's where we're different i was super happy that i did that i was super happy that i did the backstory
Starting point is 03:20:19 and that i have a understanding of like the through line of this universe and even at the places where it's just a single thread and then we connect to this whole
Starting point is 03:20:31 other world i still find that kind of fascinating you know see here's the thing though like let's take automata for example nihilistic giant robot asses were not featured
Starting point is 03:20:43 in nir or dragon guard and in fact none of that led to giant sad robot butts therefore what was i did like Clems's videos are great
Starting point is 03:20:55 and i'm glad that i watched them and it is nice to learn about an old obscure uh franchise that i don't want to play yet at the same time you know okay accord as a reference to a character
Starting point is 03:21:07 that it's gonna be around that's still around at this point oh shit that's nuts she's still around devil and popola needs nothing
Starting point is 03:21:15 no very little but it's still like it's it was still something that i was like oh that's cool like i i if you for me when i saw that i was like oh fuck i liked her
Starting point is 03:21:24 and the role she played in the past that's cool that there's a little little thing there this is a plus this is a plus to me right hold on i want to i want to somebody mentioned pat that apparently
Starting point is 03:21:35 i said that this was vital back in the day i have changed my mind i am starting to change my mind on a lot of this xeno blade is the one that's doing it to me because my desire to know everything
Starting point is 03:21:48 about xeno blade before i play xeno blade 3 is resulting in me not playing xeno blade 3 at all ever because i keep going back to start xeno blade 1 and going
Starting point is 03:22:00 i don't really want to play this so if you are running into this problem in that way then that is you making a value judgment of your time feeling wasted for something that is effectively not a
Starting point is 03:22:14 payoff because you're going well if i'm putting in all this pre work there should be a direct relation that is going to matter um
Starting point is 03:22:24 i'm not going in with that i'm going in with the simple thing of like i'm just kind of like what is the setting this is being built on and in nears case i was i i knew it was going to be
Starting point is 03:22:35 tangential but i'd like i just want to know where the thread leads right um and in the same way that there's that kind of fucked up aspect of like oh like
Starting point is 03:22:44 the entire virus could have come from that initial first corruption of the draken guard ending where you know the above tokyo this is where that outbreak came from it was actually your first
Starting point is 03:22:57 uh uh uh your it was the the red eyes thing came from that draken guard ending right that same sort of like through through line was one where um
Starting point is 03:23:07 when devola and popola uh are doing what they do i that should hit and it well i i and it hit really clear
Starting point is 03:23:19 in a way not saying that there is no value no no no no it's the difference between is it worth it or not for the effort of going through it
Starting point is 03:23:30 right and the the amount of time it would have taken to go back and fully and get devola and popola is asking more of people than their time then schedule should
Starting point is 03:23:41 probably would probably have it's it's you know if you want respect for your time again i super understand it which is why i would not necessarily give it unconditionally as a recommendation but i would say for me
Starting point is 03:23:52 i fucking loved that part and thinking about that idea of this is where they got to after everything from when we last saw them and this like suffering journey of like repentance
Starting point is 03:24:06 over time was a massive quality add and i and i felt like man i'm happy for that payoff but that's how i'm gonna consume a story you know i'm gonna put out
Starting point is 03:24:21 extra time on that for this little thing because a little bit like that might make me like it that much more what do you know about the trails of cold steel series nothing so let me tell you
Starting point is 03:24:37 i saw the trails of cold sea steel series and went oh that seems like a fun series of rpgs there's four of them okay well should i start at one to which the answer is no start eight games earlier
Starting point is 03:24:54 at trails of heroes in the sky i'm like why well because it's it's a continuous story happening simultaneously in multiple countries to which i then discover that their trilogies
Starting point is 03:25:08 and the ending of each trilogy spoils the endings of the other trilogies because they're on the same timeline only to find out that three and four are being treated like the avengers end game of that series which includes every character
Starting point is 03:25:25 that's ever been in it that you won't know who any of them are because you didn't do it only then be told yeah dude i started at three i don't know who these people are it's fine the story is totally clear at which point leads to the situation of
Starting point is 03:25:39 i will never play any of these 10 games yeah because i don't know where to start i don't know where the fuck is meant like it's so fucking confusing it is and what you're describing
Starting point is 03:25:52 sounds like somebody showing someone playing phantom pain going okay guys who's big boss and phantom pain at the very least has the decency to start and far backwards in time and the insanity of franchises that are told over the course of
Starting point is 03:26:07 fucking with a timeline back and forward in 12 13 14 games is one that is like there's no way to just summarize the journey in a and give you everything you need to know there'll be things where they'll be like
Starting point is 03:26:22 hey we put in a fucking timeline in the game you can read that for your best summary hey we hired a youtuber to fucking put together an explanation of our lore over the course of six or seven episodes
Starting point is 03:26:35 go watch that if you want to catch up to figure out what the fuck the backyard is but in the meantime you're probably you can go in and read all this if you want to but you if you don't okay all right that's fine every some series are way better about it than others
Starting point is 03:26:51 and that's okay I just know that every time that question comes up like the answer is really just what kind of person are you like are you somebody who gets frustrated over the the the time wasted or is it like are you someone that like
Starting point is 03:27:09 will you like the little things even if they're very slight you know what my favorite version of this question is and I know you like it as well because I've seen you answer it hey man I've been looking to start to get into Final Fantasy where do I start
Starting point is 03:27:24 doesn't matter fucking fucking throw a dart at a fucking wall that's a great answer that's a great answer for a franchise to have you know what I'll slightly lesser known that I appreciate the fucking east series
Starting point is 03:27:39 do you know what happens in east well there was a shipwreck and now Adoles on a fucking new island that has problems I'm sure there's other shit Zelda I want to get into Zelda where should I start
Starting point is 03:27:52 play a Zelda game it doesn't matter which one yeah who gives a shit they're designed with that exact same idea in mind as you just play them and they're they're gonna be a thing and whatever connects them barely matters it's more about
Starting point is 03:28:05 what you recognize as enemies and weapons and you know man that's great when a franchise has that ability of course the continuing narrative over time is a unique type of thing
Starting point is 03:28:19 that can be really awesome with a massive payoff when it's a long journey you know that not every story can nor should be that but yeah you just need
Starting point is 03:28:31 you need a you need a real clarifier though on that question which is just are you asking if you're going to completely be lost or are you asking if this will be fine but this will sprinkle
Starting point is 03:28:42 some seasoning on your experience you know it's a you know it's a really good like a topical timely thing to this discussion so I was looking a co-carnage was tweeting about it
Starting point is 03:28:56 because destiny lightfall is coming out next week which is the new destiny expansion and he described that hey I would really be able to get into destiny but there's currently no main quest in that game that will tell you
Starting point is 03:29:09 what is happening in the game at all it's been seasonal content and expansion content for like three four years and like the original shit is like gone
Starting point is 03:29:21 it's in the vault there's no way to get into it now like you must be okay with jumping in fucking knee deep into shit you don't know about to right the bad man
Starting point is 03:29:34 right one of the fucking great ones that uh yeah everyone clearly wants an answer on is when it comes to fucking Kirby where do I start
Starting point is 03:29:43 right oh dude Kirby it's a marshmallow man the best part about the where do I start Kirby flowchart is
Starting point is 03:29:50 you start at Kirby Superstar but the reason why it has nothing to do with lore it's because that's the funnest one with the most game in it and it has all the different modes
Starting point is 03:30:01 and styles of game that are going to be used in every other Kirby game so it's like if you no one has ever said
Starting point is 03:30:09 other than where do I start with Kirby who is asking that I if you go look at getting into Kirby as as a flowchart there is literally
Starting point is 03:30:18 a graphic out there that's that describes what I'm talking about this is already established always start with Kirby Superstar is kind of a little meme and now
Starting point is 03:30:27 you got a deluxe for that matter but the point of this has nothing to do with the lore or the story or any of that
Starting point is 03:30:35 dumb shit posting shit because the bits with the story are always these little background when you're
Starting point is 03:30:41 like like like they're just they're so fucking over there while you're going hiiii in the foreground but if you want to play
Starting point is 03:30:48 Kirby games and enjoy them the one thing you probably want to figure out is what part Kirby has a lot of things
Starting point is 03:30:54 in its gameplay which part do you find the most fun you know and Kirby Superstar lets you find out which part of the gameplay of Kirby
Starting point is 03:31:02 you like the most and then you can play games that are more about that thing you liked as opposed to the other things you didn't
Starting point is 03:31:08 as much it's a gameplay teaser I just saw in the chat the most insane take I've ever seen about this discussion
Starting point is 03:31:19 we have a guy in here I am playing Baldur's Gate 2 right now never played the first one that's legitimately so crazy
Starting point is 03:31:31 because that is like part those are one that's one game split into two games that's literally like like the first chapter
Starting point is 03:31:39 and the second chapter and they just went now fuck it Baldur's Gate 2 is better which it is it is I'll play that one
Starting point is 03:31:46 and I I'm so fucking jealous of that the amount of shit that I haven't watched or read or gotten into
Starting point is 03:31:54 it's like well I gotta do the research for all I gotta know everything that's about like the people that go hey fuck it I'll just that Marvel end game
Starting point is 03:32:02 is happening I guess I'll see what that's about yeah and just wandering into the theater those fucking saints it's not it's not a goblin for me it's me
Starting point is 03:32:12 knowing myself and knowing how I like media and I know the times where I watch it and then I read something afterwards and I go oh that makes me
Starting point is 03:32:20 like this a bit more now I realize kind of I'm like oh I would like I know I would enjoy it more knowing it beforehand that being said there's another aspect to this question
Starting point is 03:32:31 and we don't have to fucking go too much further on it but the part where we're talking about people who jump on the hot thing because it's hot right
Starting point is 03:32:38 this has been this has been the entirety of yeah our discussion over fucking the last decade has been that
Starting point is 03:32:46 and I'm I represent the antithesis of that to my detriment right when you play the hot thing yes it's more
Starting point is 03:32:55 yes it's it's more of a shallow decision but it's also an economic one in which people will tune in eyeballs will check out the new thing because they too are curious
Starting point is 03:33:02 about the hot thing so like you can choose to stand on the like no I'm gonna play like not just because it's hot
Starting point is 03:33:10 but it's because it's a a better play through and or a good thing or a thing I want or care about whatever the reasons are and
Starting point is 03:33:16 all of that will fly in the face of cool good luck growing your your channel your base
Starting point is 03:33:23 your your whole thing right there's a part of it where if you don't do that to some degree you're just being bad at your job
Starting point is 03:33:30 you're being a bad youtuber you're being a bad touch touch streamer to some degree if we lived in a world where the attention economy was not built in this way I would love to
Starting point is 03:33:42 just stand on that aspect of it and keep it pure quote unquote but every once in a while when the stars align guess what
Starting point is 03:33:51 the hot new shit is also hi-fi rush yeah so there's no problem jumping on that and that's what I guess I try to aim for whenever possible
Starting point is 03:34:02 you know so for for me the most recent example that I can come up with is dark and darker a game that I went to the steam page looked at it
Starting point is 03:34:11 went I don't get it people won't stop talking about it though everybody's talking about it people in my discord people my friends are playing it right the fuck now
Starting point is 03:34:21 fucking I don't I don't fucking know but I don't get this fucking shit all right let's install let's fucking roll
Starting point is 03:34:27 let's give it let's give it the the the the old college try and as long as I feel like I gave it
Starting point is 03:34:36 like a like a like fair shot I feel satisfied even if I bounce right the fuck off it
Starting point is 03:34:46 which I totally did see I in this particular instance I I I feel less satisfied simply because like if I'm
Starting point is 03:34:54 I'd rather do the research in advance and then if it turns out the game is what I'm going to bounce off of I'll just never start it right and if it is something I would consider then I want to go all the way through because for the in the future
Starting point is 03:35:07 I know how it would feel if I was going through something and then it just stopped abruptly and I really hate that feeling I know as well that if I were to start and stop things all the time constantly it would be objectively like the quote unquote healthiest thing to do for the channel
Starting point is 03:35:30 but it would bother me personally you know so I just don't see myself ever really fully going that way on it but I see like trying to come up with compromising ways to like play games that are
Starting point is 03:35:46 capable of being you know played in short bursts or things like that but yeah I'm not running things the right quote unquote way I know that you know hey woolly um how far are you in hi-fi rush
Starting point is 03:35:58 um we the the verse the chapter after um Corsica okay I just saw I just saw a fucking I just saw like
Starting point is 03:36:14 how much of xeno gears do I need to play to understand hi-fi rush which is which is like the absolute most fringe extreme variation of this discussion right right right yeah yeah and you know
Starting point is 03:36:28 this also doesn't take into account to the modifier that is I have somebody that comes over and our mutual schedules being free is what is when I can play games as opposed to
Starting point is 03:36:43 literally just hit the button any time you know um like yeah like me all fucking all stream and then I locked myself out my
Starting point is 03:36:52 fucking front door fucking two in the morning one person can do woke everybody up trying to get back in one person can do a whole lot more than multiple people can in terms of just the the scheduling ability and logistics
Starting point is 03:37:05 which is why like the joke from back in the day about um dsp outlives us all dsp outlives the old channel dsp like you know continues and it's like yes that is true however if you think about it for more than two seconds
Starting point is 03:37:24 he's also one person who has to hit a button and then then he's there it's like it's like
Starting point is 03:37:33 it's like describe like dsp outlives us all it's like as long as he doesn't literally die like that's the you know like for us it's like
Starting point is 03:37:41 okay yeah we're not recording anymore you know but like a single individual just needs to wake up in the morning and continue to exist
Starting point is 03:37:49 and therefore that will be you know like succeeding so it's it's just a bit of a different thing and i'm like right
Starting point is 03:37:57 this comes up here with whenever i'm like what is the fastest i can get through a game that has a lot going on super long sessions twice a week
Starting point is 03:38:07 okay what's that going to amount to a fraction of what you can get through by doing eight hours a day for a solid five days straight you know
Starting point is 03:38:16 like there's just there's a hard cap on the amount of progress i can make and in a thing um with somebody else so all of that
Starting point is 03:38:25 keeps bubbling in my mind and it will continue to do so and it will always be in an anxiety-inducing thought or as i continue to do this gig
Starting point is 03:38:34 but um i guess my willingness to jump in in the middle of it without doing
Starting point is 03:38:46 without knowing fully what's going on is like if i can go back and watch a video or watch a a long play of it i'll at least try to get that done
Starting point is 03:38:55 and you know i'll do some do-jail do due diligence if possible you know um and i think that's
Starting point is 03:39:01 hopefully that's reasonable i think you should just fucking load up witcher three and fucking go absolutely no foreign knowledge at all
Starting point is 03:39:12 right see now if i did that and then three sessions later i just stopped and then nobody knows why or what's going to happen to it
Starting point is 03:39:24 how does everyone feel about that like don't get hype over the oh shit woolly versus witcher three get hype over where did witcher three go what happened to it
Starting point is 03:39:35 right yeah that's they're like like tell me see me then see me on the other side of this right no
Starting point is 03:39:43 no you're you're you're you want to know that it's a it's a thing that at the very least
Starting point is 03:39:48 i can see it i want to know it's a thing i can see it through so i can for real though for coverage thing don't don't play
Starting point is 03:39:52 witcher three the game is the game is like 180 hours long yeah well and that and that
Starting point is 03:39:57 and that's for me yeah um a lot of really good games are also very difficult to lp because they're long and
Starting point is 03:40:10 i'm still figuring that out still figuring that out sometimes i just i really really want it though you know sometimes it's like a front mission three where i'm just like
Starting point is 03:40:19 damn i really really want it and some people will be like no it's fucking big dude i'm like i know
Starting point is 03:40:26 maybe there it's fuck yeah and then that's where i start to go like maybe
Starting point is 03:40:31 there's a hybrid system maybe i do some offline and summarize sessions for people maybe i do some way to split it you know
Starting point is 03:40:39 i did the the death stranding catch up sessions before each one or elden ring i did the last time on elden ring session
Starting point is 03:40:47 so that like red you could see what i did in the meantime and it was mainly not too much map expansion just trying to get you know
Starting point is 03:40:55 stuff done like maybe there's ways to go about it to minimize mitigate it but when i really
Starting point is 03:41:00 really want to you know that's that's that overrides the other stuff anyways i'm fine with that
Starting point is 03:41:09 as long as you give it an honest take honest honest chance like i remember hopping into league of legends despite not being
Starting point is 03:41:18 up to date on the league of legends lore yeah i think i think my run terror run was um you know i think it was okay
Starting point is 03:41:31 i don't think i hit any lore walls on that oh that girl's a pirate that's that's what you need to know that's
Starting point is 03:41:37 yep all right take it easy folks have a good week everybody if you're ok ok

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