Castle Super Beast - CSB 221: 911 is a Reference to MGS2

Starting point is 00:00:00 [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ Hello. Good afternoon, Willie. How are you today? Not too bad. Gonna sound a little bit different because I'm using a different microphone. Oh my God, you're using a different microphone. So heads up if that's what your ears are going hold on a minute, what's going on here? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:00:54 Or I'm using something else. So I'm still in the middle of configuring and tweaking and doing settings and stuff, but that's what's up. Yeah, this is a very, very busy week. Lots of stuff. Oh, there's a lot of thing. There's at least one thing. I've been tonned the wife all week. I can't wait for the podcast.

Starting point is 00:01:19 I can't wait to make fun of this stupid, stupid thing that happened this week to the point where I went and watched your stream to make fun of this stupid, stupid thing that happened this week to the point where I went and watched your stream to make sure that you were on the same page that this thing is fucking stupid. And I was correct. So we'll get to that when we talk about the Sony event. Okay. Okay.

Starting point is 00:01:40 There's a lot in that Sony event. So first things first, just for everyone that's on alert mode, we do know about the Zatum documentary that dropped this morning. I'm going to assume you haven't had the two and a half hours to watch it. It literally wasn't two and a half hours between the time that I won't like I saw it and we started and also I had to eat food, right? Correct. I did have friend of the show, Dad Asuna, give a breakdown to myself for Cliff's snotes

Starting point is 00:02:15 because they saw it. And I can break that down way, way further. So I would like to watch it myself to certainly see what's in there from the thread that Chris Bratt broke down on on Twitter. It seems as if basically they went to Estonia. They sat in on a court case for Zahum with Zahum dealings going on. They interviewed the CEO, the people that left, they interviewed the people that got fired, they talked to just about all sides of the situation

Starting point is 00:02:57 and asked some questions and got some answers that were basically revealing things that I guess were unknown up until now. And I don't know what the conclusion is from all of this information, but I do know that it appears to be the whole thing into like two sentences. Oh, okay. It appears to be the most like concise, the most in depth investigation into the entire story so far.

Starting point is 00:03:25 So obviously worth watching the entire thing. This is called investigation, who's telling the truth about disco lesium from people make games. So I highly recommend everyone, including me, to go through it. But I think there are two salient points that you can break down from this.

Starting point is 00:03:43 One, the investors do in fact appear to be business man criminals. They do appear to be just a bunch of shady as they appear. Okay, right? That stuff is the devil we knew. The parts that we didn't know, but was kind of hinted at, is Curvitz, the novelist slash head writer, um, is apparently a massive prick. Okay. Just like the criminal business men said. Okay.

Starting point is 00:04:16 In particular, didn't understand what pre-vis is and, uh, would give unhelpful feedback in the form of wandering into a part of the office, screaming, it's shit, it's all shit, it's fucking shit, and then leaving. Sounds me a motosk. That's the marketing zone. Like art cop. the marketing zones like ArtCop writ large in a human. I see. So, yeah, basically it doesn't look like anyone at that studio is a good manager, is what it looks like.

Starting point is 00:04:58 And this allows criminal businessmen to do their criminal businessmen shit. So I'm sure what I would expect to hear going into this, I guess, impartial documentary would be, you know, each party giving their grievances, followed by their best arguments, why they should legally be, you know, responsible for the Disco-Alysium and at least for its success. I am curious to hear, I guess, from the, yeah, the team members and the people that currently and formerly used to work there, since I feel as if like people that have no real stake in it anymore would probably have, you know, what I mean? Like a more the most honest things to say about

Starting point is 00:05:46 the situation. If they were like, yeah, I was part of the team. I helped make the game. And now I'm fucking gone. Here's what's up. That feels like the side of things I want to hear from the most. Yeah. There's a lot of complaints about poor management or fucked up deadlines or conflicting goals or issues with healthcare. And just it looks like the place was just being managed to just really badly to top to bottom. And I say managed specifically. Now we're both gonna need to,

Starting point is 00:06:22 I wanna reiterate in the middle of this, we're both gonna need to go watch it. Oh yeah, absolutely. This is a cliff notes vibe check as summarized, but this is without watching it. The company that made Disco Elysium is the kind of company that you would run into in disco, Elysium. Okay. Is like Fortress, Oxidant, is the fucking fake game company in that that you're the old real game company,

Starting point is 00:06:58 but is also the new real game company. So the saddest possible, I guess, take away, well, not the saddest, but one of the bad timeline takeaways from this would be that like disco was such a brilliant, brilliant thing that could never ever possibly happen again, even if there were no falling zouts. Yeah, even if there were no was no bad, even if there was no bad blood, because the nature of the creative process was too destructive to begin with. If that is in fact what we find out from this,

Starting point is 00:07:32 that's gonna hurt. Yeah, disco-aleeism is the work of a talented genius that is inherently wildly self-destructive, which is probably the best fucking thing you've possibly say about this. But that's all but like, okay, we've been sitting like the take for months has been damn. This crazy fucking nuke going on over there is the most disco shit ever, right? But at a certain point, you have to kind of stand back and be like, yeah, but that and that sucks.

Starting point is 00:08:02 It's like it's appropriate because the entire theme is about self-destruction. Everything about it is the most self-sabotaging in the source material ever. But like, I don't, I don't, yeah. Like, it feels like him. You're watching Evangelion. And you know what you get the feeling of? I bet this guy doesn't have a really good relationship with his dad. Right. He feels very divorced. Oh, wow, look at that. He doesn't have a good relationship with his dad.

Starting point is 00:08:32 And he's extremely divorced. It's just it's like I, I guess I'm just trying to like to envision the scenario where like, um, you know, GG Allen walks out on stage and starts flinging his shit. And everyone's like, yeah, you know, and we're like, you know, Gigi Allen walks out on stage and starts flinging his shit. And everyone's like, yeah, you know, and we're like, this whole thing is on fire. And it's horrible and it's, it's like, and it apparently has an effect on Estonian culture.

Starting point is 00:08:56 And all this shit is coming out, you know, throughout the case, and like we're just like, damn, damn, that shit is getting more disco by the day. That's fucking awesome Yeah, no like there's no amount of self-destruction here because that's the theme that is like too far for what the subject entails You know Anyways What I yeah, I think I think Um, well, I, yeah, I think I think I think it's disco. It's this go. It's this. Yes. I know. I just, I don't want, I don't want us to be like,

Starting point is 00:09:33 it's like, damn, now the, the, the, the, the Estonian mafia has started disappearing some bodies and someone, right? And then, and then like, oh, no no a former employee was found On on a dock their body bloated up over the course of two weeks and everyone's like man That's disco is fuck like you know like can we fucking? Someone was found strung up on a tree damn that was so disco I'm a huge proponent of the idea that art as suffering is a horse shit like fucking like Mass-pertory exercise to give your bullshit more weight because you oh, I'm making that I'm using the method I start off to myself that makes my acting so good blah blah blah, right? but like

Starting point is 00:10:22 That's me real like the best artists are like horribly suffering. But like it's real. Oh yeah, well, because- You need to suffer for real. Well, so the like- Like the press, schizophrenic alcoholics are the greatest writers ever. Like the, the, in other words,

Starting point is 00:10:41 and the obvious is like, yeah, you can't just fake it and then go, I lived the experience. I know what it's like here I am because I did it for a month or whatever. If you have that inside of you, you're going to summon into that because you've had a lifetime of experience and that's going to show the best, that's going to show through the most. Absolutely. That showed itself time and time again. I mean, we talked about the wire and how fucking amazing it was and like the part where they're like, yeah, like some of the people that were on that show just like got their paycheck and went right back out onto that corner after the show was finished filming to do to stand on that corner anyways, you know what I mean like it's's like, okay, we're filming. All right, wrap it up. The trucks go and I'm back on the corner. This is what I do.

Starting point is 00:11:28 This is what I was doing beforehand. This is what I do after. You know, that shit carries through, man. All right. Well, anyways, suffering for our art, woolly. I don't want to. I I suffer every day. So what's up with you? How's your suffering going. Well, no. So.

Starting point is 00:12:08 Pfft. Uh, don't you, don't you, but don't you put that fucking curse on me. I'm, I'm, I'm throwing out the Bazinga. There it is. Don't do it. It's out there. Oh god, dammit. Take that damage.

Starting point is 00:12:26 This week, a couple things, I guess, since we have a lot to get into. So I'll go through it fast. Yeah, the summer is rolling around and the festivals are starting to pick up over here in Montreal. So I always talk about it, but there's a ton of things that just start to overlap right around the beginning of June and the first of many is the BD festival as in Bondissine. So that's the like kind of like comics like Astrix and Oblix, Tintin, you know, things like that. There was a comic festival that takes place here and brought up, brought up some, you know, some, some friends I knew, some artists that have been working in, in, in the trenches for a while. And, uh, yeah, a couple of other different publishing houses and stuff kind of just set up. It was pretty cool because it was essentially a con out

Starting point is 00:13:18 on the street. And, uh, you had like a nice little like promenade to walk up and down and have a nice little, you know, nice summary day. And then you check out some comics and stuff people are out and about. It was very, it was very cool. So went to that and had a good time. But in particular, I was overjoyed to discover an artist had invented the new mascot. There is a new mascot that I think is being unveiled for Montreal.

Starting point is 00:13:58 And let me see if I can't drop this photo here to show you because I bought a bag from it. It is essentially a parking cone that has a hazard cone with a cute face on it that shows up everywhere around the city. And they now, they have the construction pile on with a cute little face and it has a little name and it's like oh it's little Pi whatever its name is pyle or whatever is like showing up there is always over there right around the corner right and it's just literally yeah kind of like the VLC logo But it's like the it's more of a cone way. The Cylinder one. It's a cylindrical one.

Starting point is 00:14:45 And it's got the cutest little face and there's merch and there's t-shirts and you got a little Montreal logo and it's like, that's how we represent it now, man. The Goddamn, the construction code is your friend. I travel through like 70% of the country lengthwise. Granted, not that many major cities, you know, straight through. Yeah, how many construction cones I saw,

Starting point is 00:15:11 but from like, like thousands of kilometers? Like, I don't know, like 30 total. Less than I would every day, every day living in Montreal. Well, you're not someone, you're not, listen, that may be the case and that is simply because Tony soprano has not yet made his way out west. You know, Mr. soprano has not yet started getting the no show jobs going all the way out there. Her Toronto's got a spare chair of it.

Starting point is 00:15:48 Tony soprano, but like, is mom Bouchard still alive? Or did he fucking die finally? I have no idea. But all I know is that the corruption investigation, they, they, okay, yeah, he died. Okay. So whoever, whoever killed mom Bouchard is is is putting the cones in front of your house Yeah, there was an investigation into whether there was a corruption in the construction industry in

Starting point is 00:16:15 In Montreal and it's like you ever see that you ever see that book called identifying wood and it's just It's got the yep, it's wood. Like they're like, yep, we identified it. It's there's a whole lot of it. And there it is, you know, but yeah, construction couldn't have been unveiled. I remember talking to people in say, Jeff, and my, yeah, I was at my brother's club

Starting point is 00:16:39 and I was there when the guy came around for the cash. And I asked him what's the cash for. And he told me to shut the fuck up and just give the guy the cash. And that's how it just was every Saturday. Like, wait, you fucking kidding me? Yeah. So, um, let's see here. Oh, is that, is it, is it Ponto?

Starting point is 00:17:04 Yeah, I'm like, hold on, let me get eight, let me just... Yeah, Ponto! Yes, yes it is. Okay, Ponto underscore MTL. There we go, Ponto. Yes, the cute little construction cone. So is that the festival's mascot or is that Montreal's new fucking? I mean, so no, the festival is just a festival an artist at the at the festival

Starting point is 00:17:28 was selling Ponto merch and I'm basically invented Ponto the the the mascot and It is awesome I'm like the only thing I'm looking at her I'm just like the the artist needs to sell the little sticker with the eyes on it that we can just put on every coin that we see. Yeah, you make a Ponto everywhere. Every cone needs to look like Ponto. It would really express the city up. I think it'd be nice if all the cones were like friendly little guys. I'm a cute little traffic cone.

Starting point is 00:18:00 That's me, Ponto, check out my web comments. And then when you're going on the fucking, the fucking expressway, fucking east of EDG and that fucking piece of concrete breaks through that piece of shit, net they installed and bust through your windshield. You could put a little smiley face on the concrete in your car. Amazing.

Starting point is 00:18:24 Yeah, there's a whole web comic here to check out. I didn't even know. I didn't realize. I just like, I saw it and I was like, immediately this bit is the strongest it's ever been. But there's a whole thing going on here. So yeah, that was awesome. Very, very happy with that. I love Ponto, the course of events here, Ponto. Laura is drop it. Yeah, we're a fucking love Ponto. I'm gonna. Now think of Ponto when I think of all we're gonna.

Starting point is 00:18:51 We're going to big up Ponto. Couldn on this week's episode of the cast. So it can be cousin Turkot. Yeah. So that was the takeaway. There are other things, not much so far except I started Nathan for you and Starting back in time starting at the beginning. Yeah

Starting point is 00:19:21 Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, I mean Every show has to set itself off with a premise, right? You have a pilot, you got to get that idea out there, establish what the fuck this is going to be. Sometimes it confuses everybody like Black Mirror. You know, sometimes you go for the tone way more than for what your actual setup will be like when it happens. And then you get here, we're opening bit of Nathan for you. I don't know if you remember what season one episode one was.

Starting point is 00:19:50 I don't remember which is which now. It was, hey, we need to get people coming over to our frozen yogurt shop. Why don't we introduce the poop flavor? Oh, yeah. Straight up. That's the first flavor. Oh yeah. Straight up, that's the first one. And like, It's something wild about sitting there

Starting point is 00:20:09 and putting forth the dumbest fucking thing you could think of with the straightest face and like making a real case argument for it. And like, you're like, okay, that's gross and disgusting and, you know, I'm sure this, you know, shop owner will properly just cringe and be like, I guess if it's on camera, whatever. But then they cut to the, it like within seconds, they're like, here's the people

Starting point is 00:20:34 we've gotten to taste test actually, who might, who might have, who have nothing to do with the bit at all, you know, and, and, and, and, and, and, and. And yeah, watch having watched, I guess, like maybe three, four episodes so far. Nathan, for you, like the, the two takeaways that are probably the worst is, one, the business involved always is probably going, whatever the fuck this is, at least we're gonna be on TV. So it's probably worth it. Right? Right? No matter what, no matter how awful this gets, it were this is advertising in one way, shape or form.

Starting point is 00:21:16 You know, that zoo with the with the sheep with the viral video. For me, the one that helped me is like, you have to go in through the tiny door in a tux and then get past an alligator to get a free TV. I didn't even see that one yet. Oh, man, that's the one for me. But it's as stupid as it sounds. There's that. There's the idea of just, okay, we'll take however bad this goes because at the end of

Starting point is 00:21:40 it, the airing of how bad it went will still be on TV. And then two, sometimes it appears as if it's not going that poorly. Sometimes things are going actually fine. And it feels as if Nathan makes an audible. He makes an executive decision to go, this is going too smoothly. We need to fuck shit up. Yeah, and we need to introduce variables to annihilate how smoothly this is going. And we'll call in at the last second, it's not cringy enough.

Starting point is 00:22:19 Double down, triple down on the cringe. It's very much the, if Eric Andre is heads, then Nathan Fielder is tails. Sure. Like, you know, Eric will get in your face and throw dead fish at you and then get in a circle of his friends and scream the word nightmare at you for 10 minutes. And that's terrifying. But Nathan will just very calmly ruin your fucking restaurant with increasingly calm, placid, timid ideas in the most like disarming, harmless way possible. Now, and the thing is, I'm not sure what year this started, obviously, it was a while ago, but I think what's important too is like he kind of establishes because the way he's delivering these really stupid ideas in a really deadpan way, you're like, you're like, okay, I kind of know what this is.

Starting point is 00:23:12 He's the oblivious idiot. When you point out the obvious, he'll just deadpan it and not respond. He'll sandbag everything. And you'll be like, he's like, oh, he's going to Steve Carell, the kind of his way through this, so. And at first he does, but then he absolutely doesn't, and then stops and just starts fighting back. And he's like, we consulted a marketing guy, and the marketing guy is like, yeah, this is a fucking stupid idea, you're an idiot. And he's like, well, fuck you, how about that? And then like, and gets combative.

Starting point is 00:23:44 Yeah, absolutely But he's absolutely willing to just like go all in on Defending the bullshit and then of course at the end when it becomes a mess He's like I've I've acknowledged it's a mess time for me to leave, you know, so yeah, no, I I like what I see so far. That's some good free range cringe, you know, grass fed. So we'll see where this goes. And I'm also tempted to just also simultaneously possibly start the rehearsal just to see where that

Starting point is 00:24:28 goes and what's going on. But it's fascinating. We've had like, you know, the prank show has like a wide history, right? You get all the way from like just for laughs, the Canadian one where it's like silly little jokes. Like the policeman has no pants. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. But like you go out east, like what's your prank? in one where it's like silly little jokes. Like, oh, the policeman has no pants. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right.

Starting point is 00:24:45 But like, you go out east, like, what's your prank? Okay, you fell into a trap door in an elevator you thought was real and a little pit of snakes. All right, that's heavy, right? That's primal. We're just going straight to the adrenal gland on that. You know, we're all the way out at Nathan for you where the prank show is, I'm gonna sit in an office and you're gonna stand there and be embarrassed. Well, look, we've already,

Starting point is 00:25:06 you're familiar with scare tactics. We've talked about scare tactics. It's gone as far as it can go. You know, without, like, crossing that loss and you're gonna be embarrassed. Well, look, we've already, you're familiar with scare tactics. We've talked about scare tactics. It's gone as far as it can go.

Starting point is 00:25:27 You know, without like crossing that lawsuit territory, which we locked a man in a building and made him live off of coupon codes like this. So, we need so far you can go on that. We attacked you alone in a parking garage on your way to your car while you had no idea what was going on. And it'll just a bunch of clowns came out.

Starting point is 00:25:55 Did you get your brother chainsaw clown? Did you ever have them? A bunch of clowns came out to murder you late at night in a parking garage. Did you ever, are you familiar with chainsaw clown? He was a guy who would dress up like a clown and chase after people with fake chainsaw. Yeah, I think,

Starting point is 00:26:09 I think that, I recall seeing episodes of that, or if I remember correctly, he stopped because people pulled out a gun and shot at him. Okay, well, there you go. Yeah, so, scare tactics,

Starting point is 00:26:20 scare tactics, just a prank, bro. You know, so obviously, yeah, you just a prank, bro. You know, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, you just a prank bro, you know, the the the the Twitter are YouTube Arru of that also ticket to another level entirely. Um, you know, prank in the hood. Are you? Yeah, really? Okay. Oh, yeah, we're that series go Hmm. It seems like there was one episode. Oh, it's weird fucking loud.

Starting point is 00:26:47 But yeah, so you have to kind of, you have to swerve to a different direction and swerving towards the business that's looking for attention that needs help bar rescue style. Is that a certain, that's a place to go? You know, and at the end of the day, again, like there is that like, well, I'm sure that ice cream shop is doing better than it was before Comedy Central aired that.

Starting point is 00:27:16 Yeah, I'm sure it was. You know, you mentioned like, I feel like Jackass, like the Jackass boys are like the perfect encapsulation of that trend. Cause I remember vividly watching Jackass three and they put Johnny in the ring with the bull. And I'm pretty sure it's the first time he's ever done a really dangerous prank sober.

Starting point is 00:27:38 And he really doesn't like it. And he's just, he's really just like scared and I don't want, I don't want to do this. And then the bull hits him and he's not laughing. He's just like, uh, bull hit me. Yeah, I don't like it. I haven't seen, I haven't seen, I don't think I've seen, I haven't seen three, but I have seen one and two. And uh, I remember the new one that I'm talking about too. Okay. Yeah, because I remember the bean bag gun in one where it was just like man like Like that was like it's just that's funny, huh? And then you're like, okay, wait. How real is the damage gonna be?

Starting point is 00:28:19 Oh That is those marks are like indicative of deep bleeding inside deep muscle damage, permanent shit, you know, and you're like, it's, it's such a great. You watch one, two, three, four, and you get to see like the young man's path through life. I could do anything to do. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:28:42 No. And, you know, and yet still, I'd probably rather see that than a diarrhea train mountain, you know. But I don't even know what you're talking about, but I'm cool not understanding that. There was a train model going around the mountain, like it was a volcano. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 00:28:58 And then it was, yep, nope, not great. And I was watching that with the in law, actually. So mother in law, was there, and everyone's like, oh, I'm watching Jack I was watching that with the in law actually. So mother and law was there and everyone's like, Oh, I'm watching Jackass. It's a kind of forgot. I forgot about that part. I forgot about that part. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:29:13 Yeah. Anyways. Um, so, uh, uh, uh, fun, fun, fun with Nathan for you. Did Bam get caught by the cops yet? Or is he still on the run? Bam, I heard he's on the run. I'm assuming he's not on the run anymore, but I'm assuming that because his kid was involved

Starting point is 00:29:33 that he probably did, because that'd be insane if not. I don't know, man. You know, it feels as if the Tony Hawk never meant the Tony Hawk never met BAM time line might have happened anyway. You know, I fucking hate bad merger or so goddamn like we talk about the dark path if we if Tony never met BAM, but it feels as if it's kind of going down that road regardless. Yeah, and it's rough because from down that road regardless. Yeah. Yeah. It is.

Starting point is 00:30:05 And it's rough because from doing well, yeah, as well as you can, you know, given the nature of fucking just the the injuries and the pain and the recognition and doing the tricks once for once for the last time. But, uh, yeah, I feel like the every time I hear an update about BAM, it's kind of like Arty Lang where it's like everyone that has been around in this friends is kind of like man, I don't like we've tried every possible form of intervention, support, you know, everything we can. And it just doesn't seem like anything's really gonna click. So you're every single time.

Starting point is 00:30:49 So you just, you're just watching and hoping that you see a parachute get pulled, but you don't know what to do with this point. Every single time I pull out my phone and my phone says, Bam Margera on it, I go, and then like, I continue to read the sentence sentence and it says anything along the lines of he's alive like is still alive is alive. Yeah. Like like just like it is like every year or two. I have a moment where I just like, oh man, not this year.

Starting point is 00:31:26 It almost happened, it almost like when he was on the run from the cops, my like I had a friend's birthday happened during that. And we were like, yeah, happy birthday man, man might like fall off a cliff, but then he didn't. I think I feel as if like when Ryan Dunne like died that kind of like everyone was like super fucking like that was a huge like impact.

Starting point is 00:31:53 And then after that everyone was like, are these guys all gonna just start dropping off, you know? No. And they didn't. And in fact, in some cases, in many cases it seems there is like a moment of like, okay, can we get a little bit healthier, you know, can we get sober and stuff? And like, Steve, oh, I know definitely like turned it the fuck around and like has gotten way, way

Starting point is 00:32:17 healthier and is, is, you know, doing much better as well. And so there's like, there's that kind of moment where it could have gotten particularly dark, but didn't. So yeah, there's a bit of a like, okay, that, that there was some, you know, there was an impact, you know, that that kind of helped. And that's nice because yeah, man, like, there's a, there's a, an entire era of fucking mall white kids need to stop you for a second, because I see people in the chat going, wow, Pat, There's an entire era of fucking mall white kids. Need to stop you for a second, because I see people in the chat going, wow, Pat, that's really harsh about Bam, Marjaro.

Starting point is 00:32:50 Why would you wish that on somebody? And then people are going to his wiki page and then coming back and going, oh yeah, never mind. Okay. Bam, Marjaro fucking sucks so bad. There's a whole lot of mall white kids that all filmed their own home version of Jackass that like we're looking up to this group and wondering essentially looking

Starting point is 00:33:15 at them is like this is where does the future lead for shopping cart writers, you know, and maybe that's my future. And then like if it all just every one of those shopping carts let off a cliff That would have been horrendous. So It's nice to know that it doesn't have to like a fucking positive influence now. Yeah, it's like a great He's doing stand-up and stuff and he's he's fucking killing it He was like so vegan his doctor had to be like na Steve. Oh, you're Some of your shit is fucked. You can't be hardcore vegan.

Starting point is 00:33:48 You're missing your, your damage and you need more nutrients than, than what you got going on. But he was like, he was like sticking to it like perfectly, which is a massive, massive leap from old Steve. Yeah. No, that's, that's exactly it. So, you know, hoping for the best there. Um, anyway, uh, what else is going on? Um, yeah, I had a bunch of health stuff to take care of. So, uh, been pretty busy. But, um, the, uh, we did get some slop streaming in there.

Starting point is 00:34:27 I see. And I saw that you got to see, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, certain slop moments with, uh, one surmiao from at surmiao music. Oh, yes. Yes. That was pretty good. Um, not that, excuse me, not that bad in retrospect. Really, it was kind of like, you know, I think I think we got that story from the perspective

Starting point is 00:34:54 of Sermon music in the his own filter of cringe. But in reality, if you were to watch the replay, I'm sure if anyone else saw it, it's just a pretty normal interaction. It mirrored many that I've had so it really wasn't that bad at all. Where were you in the story? Were you in the airport? I was in the airport. Yeah, because I asked Paige about it.

Starting point is 00:35:20 Did I ever have an, did you ever say, and she's like, yeah, no, after, after one of the Mac fest, you were in the airport. And came up to say hi and you just like blearly looked at them and went, hey, yeah. No, the 5 a.m. thing. That happens. I'm me not being a morning person in combination with my infamous resting bitch face. Certainly don't add to that. You know, and as I said during the slopstream,

Starting point is 00:35:45 people are very inclined to look at me and go, hey man, what's wrong? Hey, what's wrong, dude? And I'm like, nothing. This is just. I mean, obviously have a bit of an RBF. Yeah, well, I do. I do, I do.

Starting point is 00:35:55 But it's totally not reflective of what I'm feeling or thinking until I'm asked for the 10th time, at which point, then it's like, okay, well, now I'm getting annoyed. Oh, yeah, see, see, he was mad. You know, so all that to say that like all of this can, you know, come together to create the perfect storm in someone else's mind of like how bad an event might go, but it probably was totally fine.

Starting point is 00:36:24 And yeah, so all good. Yeah, uh, uh, uh, surf me out of music, also of Montreal, you know, um, so let's see. But uh, yeah, uh, shout out. Let me ask you a question just before we move on. So I don't have RBF. I don't have an arresting bitch face, but my mouth is kind of open when I'm like slack. So I look like I'm, I'm fucking brain dead. I look like I'm a vacant husk. If I'm just staring, like would you want to trade that or is like which do you think is worse?

Starting point is 00:36:57 I mean like no I don't want that but the same time, like the amount of people and family that would just be like, oh, why are you always looking so upset? Why don't you smile more? You know, the amount of times I'd get that, that shit is so fucking annoying. Yeah, you're right, that's what I'm saying. And it just, it never, ever, ever, ever stopped, you know. But, and I guess like, hilariously,

Starting point is 00:37:22 because, you know, my job involves talking into a mic and being on camera. And how do you camera point at your face? There are there have been quite a few times where I'm actually just having my normal face, but someone's screen caps it and uses that screen cap to like convey convey woolly has died inside. And I'm like, actually, I just went back to zero. Like, you know, you're dying inside at all times. But there's been a couple of those moments where it's just like, oh my god, look at what he did right after that moment.

Starting point is 00:37:59 And it was like, I just, I went back to neutral. But screen cap, he's dead inside, you know? Because yeah, that's it. It's just, I went back to neutral, but screen cap, he's dead inside, you know? Cause yeah, that's it, it's just, I don't know. I can't change the way my face looks, you know? And again, as Reggie pointed out, like, and God forbid I start squinting a little bit, you know? Yeah, no good. Anyways, so, a slop stream should be coming your way on the algorithm real soon, but in

Starting point is 00:38:30 the meantime, over on Wally versus the algorithm, you can go check it out. We also saw it as a guy. You know, you ever saw this is the most non-sequitur. There's a dumb new hot meme going around of like Tetsuo grabbing his fucking head, you know, and like, ah, and then he sees the vision of Akira. Okay. Right.

Starting point is 00:38:54 I saw one yesterday and I all I could think of was you because the caption was trying to not be a massive piece of shit. And he goes, leave me alone, ah, and he sees a steak. It goes, ah, and then it just cuts to like a fucking glass of water. And I'm like, oh my God, this slop streaming shit is the war. It's like sloping up your steaks. It's like the absolute, I still think about it and get fucking mad.

Starting point is 00:39:22 Bro, that you infected me with this sloppy Steak shit now that now that my body has changed and I can fit into shit like my mr. Hoodie again Which I didn't get rid of because I was about to because it was too small But now it fits again you bet your ass. I'm gonna be wearing some Dan flashes It's going down I'm about to put some fucking Dan flashes shirts on, lay on a couch and talk about all those stakes. I ain't it, I ain't it, it's so goddamn much.

Starting point is 00:39:54 I love it, I love it, it's the best. All right. So disco, Elysium out of context, you know, speaking of disco, we have some great clips that have been put together. Go check them out. We have, speaking of disco, we have some great clips, uh, that have been put together. Um, go check them out. We have, uh, as of this morning, fascism straight up and, uh, again, yes. And black face crisis averted.

Starting point is 00:40:18 So, uh, go enjoy. I know what you're talking about with that. Okay. Yeah. Go enjoy. Go enjoy. I know what you're talking about with that. Okay. Go enjoy. Yeah. And, you know, this week, we will be getting some more FF9 in there.

Starting point is 00:40:33 We're going to be working our way through Citadel. And, you know, I'll let you guys know. I got to spend a little more time doing some house stuff this week, so it'll probably be a little lighter schedule than needed. But I'm seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. Um, I feel like we're going to have a little resting point, um, at which point. Yeah, we can focus in on stuff. I have looked into the future and I can already see like, okay, so week two of street fighter six, there is a local tournament that's happening here in Montreal.

Starting point is 00:41:06 And shout outs to MGC, the Montreal Gaming Center, and the venue Z, the guy who runs it, is running a free bracket, free entry tournament, $1,000 pot bonus price. Hey, so, Ain't no reason not to. You know, it's one of those things where you just you go take a stab at it, no venue cost, no sign up cost. And if you win, how are they going to sift out the

Starting point is 00:41:35 beaters? Well, there might be, there might be beaters. I think perhaps if you provide proof from this day forward, you know, with holding up today's newspaper and your passport that someone is in fact a beater, then you can probably file a complaint. Like to come for it, because beaters comes from Sordart online. Sordart online. People call like people who played the beta,

Starting point is 00:42:01 crackheads. Crackheads is the best. Crackheads is the best. Yeah That's been that's been in the lexicon for the the entire duration of this, but oh man Any excuse to make fun of Sword Art Online is also welcome, but yeah crack heads is much better It's a much stronger bit. I feel like I feel like dirty Because like that's a plot point in Sword Art Online where other players are like looking at beta testers going look at these fucking cheating pieces

Starting point is 00:42:30 of shit. And I'm like, haha that's ridiculous. And I'm watching it happen for real. I can't um like it's just it's the epitome when I hear beaters, it makes me feel the same thing as when I hear get backers. Yeah, it does. It just, it strikes the exact same space within me. It tickles the same fancy, you know. Get backers. Uh, this has to be the podcast that references get backers the most often.

Starting point is 00:43:05 I mean, I just, I need that level. Like that's advanced English because you can almost get away with it. You know, you can almost make sense. It's grammatically, it's grammatically, yes. You know, you can't, something can be a beater even, but it just like if you know where and why it's happening you immediately go Oh God, oh they grabbed that word and then they tried to do this with it, you know, there's a there's a particular English style that I I like like that, you know Anyways, I have to be honest though gentlemen ladies everybody

Starting point is 00:43:50 I have to be honest though, gentlemen, ladies, everybody, no none of the cracked beta players are going to take your million dollars away from you in Street Fighter 6. Tokido is going to take your million dollars away from you in Street Fighter 6. So the fun thing about all of that is we've seen it before and we've seen it with five, we've seen it in other games. And there is a consistent, very, very predictable pattern, which is about two weeks to three weeks in less than a month later. It doesn't matter because the people who grind will grind and find everything that the others did and then some that advantage never holds up. It always evaporates.

Starting point is 00:44:33 There's only a few people that are going to win evo. Someone you've never heard from a country that doesn't have a strong evo presence and is like a brand new monster on the scene or like one of the last four guys won the cap. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, nephew punk, I don't, yeah, men are D, you know, like absolutely. It's, it's, it's going to be one or the one or the two. The thing is, of course, is that if that if, yeah, if we just kind of, if you just have to look at the history of other things like this, where those advantages, the tech,

Starting point is 00:45:12 all the crack head tech, you know, as a max was shouting on stream the other day. Like, there was a moment in the LI Joe tournament where like, oh my God, it was like a cross cut Ken DP to level two super that juggled and then ended with a ground bounce, which then linked into a dragon lash kick into another uppercut. It was the most cr... It was insane. I was thinking about how to pick it out. And I just did it and I was like, maybe it'll work. And that's why I did it.

Starting point is 00:45:47 I'd never practiced it before ever. But that is none of that matters a short distance afterwards. Time smooths that over. And then everyone just, you can't stop the fucking the ocean. And someone will lab harder than you Bet smarter than you faster than you will have better execution than you will have better ideas than you and will Improvise better than you ever could have in the time that it's very tough to spend before Like profession is to be good at Street Fighter

Starting point is 00:46:24 It is it is very it very very much is yeah whose like profession is to be good at street fighter. It is. It very, very, very much is. Yeah, but that's all that to say that in case there's a, because in case anyone thinks that it's like a permanent thing, it really, it definitely isn't, you know? It's Sonic Fox playing street fighter six. Oh, everyone's playing street fighter six.

Starting point is 00:46:43 Bro, there's a million dollars on the line. Oh man. And we get Sonic Fox to Street Fighter 6. Oh, everyone's playing Street Fighter 6. Bro, there's a million dollars on the line. Oh, man. And we get Sonic Fox to just win it and just like, just say for like this, this person, it's just going to win anything they enter until the end of time, like a unified belt. Dude, or some shit. A million dollars means everyone is gonna fucking enter every it is it is it is you if you are

Starting point is 00:47:08 In the top 0.01 percent of fighting game players You would be a fool to not take a crack at it because not only is it a million dollars in top place But everyone in top 32 Gets at minimum 2k So they pay, like we were, I was talking to Reggie about this because like the difference between fifth and sixth place is like it goes from 10k to like 100k.

Starting point is 00:47:37 It's an insane. That's a big difference. It's an insane, yeah. And so like one missed uppercut, one missed drive impact and you lose $90,000 is in a wild way to be Listen, um, but I'm really excited for the quality of these matches. They're gonna be really intense But I have to admit I'm much much more excited for the morning of much, much more excited for the morning of top eight

Starting point is 00:48:09 for the million dollars, that's crazy. Six of the competitors have become violently ill with food poisoning. How could this have happened? How could this have occurred? Damn. It's, oh my God, it's so impossible. Who's gonna have to step in and take their place? Who's who's who's not sick that morning? Martin what the

Starting point is 00:48:33 Coming out the back with smoke and a goddamn chair in his hand like I Like you do you think about like the the series Canada and Russia played, like the hockey series, the national pride thing, you know, the Canadian team gets to Russia, all their bags get lost, their hotel doesn't exist, you know, and shit like that. Yeah, come on. Let's get fucking scummy, man. So like, if so there's the bit and then there's reality right and

Starting point is 00:49:09 I bet you that in reality there might actually be a It's the night before we're all gonna go out to eat and like hey, let's have another one come on You know maybe we can maybe we can play a few more games down at the casino Maybe we can fuck around a little bit, you know, maybe just yeah, let's Hey double let's get another get another round over here. This is my dude over here. Absolutely tomorrow morning You'll be fine tonight. We celebrate the predator going to a major event such as this and you think you have a shot Let's say top 32 fucking eat meals

Starting point is 00:49:50 far away from other people fucking guard your drink Everyone don't go anywhere to see anything cool if someone says hey man There's this cool fucking thing over here Don't go with them cool fucking thing over here. Don't go with them. Every everyone has everyone has their, they're like healthy night before regimen that they're going to be following. But like on this night of all nights, like there might need to be like security pods, you know, I don't know, million is a lot. Um, in any case, though, yeah. So top six, top 32 gets paid out. So anyone who gets in the invite

Starting point is 00:50:29 ultimately to to capcom cup is in the money to some degree. I would worry about like honey pot shit. Like, hey, that girl, that girl, man, she's really interested because there's so good street fighter. Fucking push her down on the street and run. Hey, so because so evo's that is at Las Vegas, where all that shit is flying wild and fast, but Capcom Cup is not right. So fortunately, they can avoid most of that. Where's Capcom Cup at? I think it's just LA, you know,

Starting point is 00:51:03 oh, that's still that's still fucking grimy as hell, man But you got to watch out you got to watch out Anyway, yeah looking forward to that and and I'll be Obviously, you know, we'll see what happens, but yeah, where there's a there's a there's a tournament that's going on right away in the scene and right off the bat uh a week later I can't go because in laws are going to be in town family stuffs happening obligations and it's like and here we go this is the beginning of it right this is the beginning

Starting point is 00:51:39 of like go home and be a family man yeah absolutely, absolutely. You know, you think you wanna go out to that event, you think you wanna compete, you think you've been fucking putting work in, but obligations, man. Doing it sucks, because this is the year you are absolutely gonna get out of pools. This time, this time, you know, you don't understand though,

Starting point is 00:52:00 this time is different. My look is so nice you guys. Yeah, it's I just had this this this Hey, man, you know, it's the last night before the finals. We're gonna go to a party. It's so over and so it's so it's hotel room It's fine, man. Everybody's gonna be there. Okay, cool. You show up and you're like Is that hungry box over there? He doesn't look super good. He's coming towards me. Oh!

Starting point is 00:52:32 Shout outs to the player that's sitting there on launch day. And let's say hypothetically, there's a baby crying in the background. The phone is ringing with boss saying you got a coming in duo t and the wife is just right down your neck, screaming about something and that player is just staring at the screen and then they select modern mode. And they just go, fuck it. I'm not doing this to myself. We're going modern.

Starting point is 00:53:12 I can't, I can't, you know. I hope the winner. That is gonna happen to someone. Capcom Pro Tour is using modern controls. I think that would be fascinating as hell. I hope we have multiple modern modern players in the top. Absolutely. Uh, anyways, so yeah, yeah, the stuff's coming up.

Starting point is 00:53:29 I'll, you know, check this, check the schedule on Twitter, of course, as usual. And, um, yeah, that'll, that'll be where you can find me. Woolly versus, um, everything. Oh, that's what, you know, there's not a whole lot for me to talk about my week. It's usual. What's that? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up Oh, I love it. It's just in the wild. Oh, it's the best. In the wild. It's bringing, it's bringing the feeling of the arcade home. I swear to God.

Starting point is 00:54:18 Yeah, the only thing I have to really say about my week of real interest is I am I have climbed back into the mucusy kangaroo pouch that is fighting games once again. As terrible as it is, I am fully, fully back in. I rewatched my fucking open beta stream to look at my matches. That is the first time I have done that in like 10 fucking years. I didn't even really do that when Street Fighter IV came out. I just like looked into the spectator thing like, oh yeah, that's a cool feature and then didn't even do that. But I'm like

Starting point is 00:55:10 sitting around going, I want to play Street Fighter VI so fucking bad. I will just look at myself play fucking Street Fighter VI because that's that's kind of that's kind of the same thing. So you haven't you haven't been watching the random Twitter accounts that have been putting up Random leaks here and there. I Saw one and I don't know if you caught the tweet. I put out before the it got DMC aid But I saw Dawesim clip floating around where Dawesom has full screen counter combos Okay, I didn't angrily quote tweeted it with like this came socks. I'm I didn't I didn't see that one. I did see off of Dawesom standing roundhouse, you know the really long kick. Okay, that's like a counter hit. He can

Starting point is 00:56:08 Dash in and to the slide into a full combo from the corner to the corner. Yes, he can cancel from stretchy limbs now He couldn't before but now he can do stretchy limbs into cancels. Yeah That's yeah, there's there's some there's some funny stuff popping up Yeah, yeah, there's some funny stuff popping up. And just some every once in a while, like there's one or two random Twitch accounts that were just like, oh, hey shit. You can totally see me during the loading screen style. Like, we're just gonna pop the game in

Starting point is 00:56:38 and I'm just gonna destroy whatever game stop manager has a copy or whatever. Like, there's totally at least a couple of accounts where they just start streaming. And I have a sneaking suspicion, gut feeling, that competition during the review process for this game is weak as fuck. Yeah, the, I can, I can imagine that, but also the copies that whatever, whatever my home and pop store gets, or Yadde-Yadda,

Starting point is 00:57:08 and then someone grabs a copy and goes online. And it's just so funny because you can kinda tell. So right off the bat, leaked copies, footage, whatever, person streaming it. Oh my God, it's crazy, everything's wild. What's gonna happen before the Capcom show up? Here's what's gonna happen. The dude's gonna pick like Ryu

Starting point is 00:57:29 and he's gonna just beat up the CPU level 4 for a while and then he's gonna go pick another beta character that everyone's already seen and then go to the Bull match mode and then do some event matches and just generally do whatever the fuck because they don't know or care or pay any attention I don't know you he's playing Rocket League every other day. He's not paying attention to this shit and then thought about this a lot Like a lot when you see these leaks because I'm I'm I'm Very interested in leaks of a wide wide variety of games. I've seen

Starting point is 00:58:06 many and 99 times out of a hundred. It's like that for one really simple reason the people like you or I or any of our pals or any of the people in the scene that would be like Like know what to show know how to show it, and all that stuff. Go, I don't wanna get my ass fucked by Capcom by putting this fucking shit up off a fucking leech copy. So they don't, even if they have it. Right? If I went to the store and some guy just gave me

Starting point is 00:58:40 fucking Street Fighter 6 right now, I know exactly what to leak. And I wouldn't just get can't come crawl my fucking ass. Just keep playing those Luke versus Ryu matches in the fucking temple and call it a day, you know. But it is really, really funny because it's like eventually, persons like, eventually people just start noticing showing up in the chat and going for the love of God Just pick level 8 CPU two characters. We haven't already seen and let them fight That Jesus Christ at least make the leaks worth it What are you doing? No one wants to see this fucking look shit shut up, you know bull fighting

Starting point is 00:59:24 No one wants to see this fucking Luke shit shut up, you know bull fighting Oh, okay, okay, well, you know, and then you start seeing those what matches people like okay now we can take notes I'm back I'm back in I'm excited I'm gonna be doing I call I don't know what I call it just react bullshit. I don't know. I'm gonna be doing that. Usually I do it at the end of the week, right? Cause Friday or so they're doing it. Doing it on Wednesday, the day before Street Fighter. And I've loaded it up with just a shit ton of old fighting game videos.

Starting point is 00:59:58 And just a ton of, of, Gerald, Gerald Least. Hooray.. For a gaming. Hell yeah. I watched the last time I did one, I watched some of a Cori Gaming's stuff, and it's just like, what an incredible fucking video producer. What an amazing fucking set of videos

Starting point is 01:00:21 to just break down, really complicated shit in the simplest, easiest to understand terms, just the best, just the absolute best. Shout out to Corey Gaming, shout out to Leon Massey. Oh man, fantastic. Leon Massey's video on like the first one I ever saw was like, hey, let's talk about jump arcs. This is a really narrow topic. Do you hey, let's talk about jump arcs. Like this is a really narrow topic.

Starting point is 01:00:47 Do you really think you can talk about jump arcs for 26 minutes? Oh, yeah, you totally can. Absolutely. Yeah. Shout out to all back to block as well. It's Estabon doing good stuff. Like there's, like he's got some.

Starting point is 01:01:00 I'm not as familiar with them. He's got some really good videos too. He does some deep dives and, you know, has put out some pretty compelling stuff. Yeah, I'm really, I'm really like stoked on like these really great channels that are informative and in depth and do not require you to have any knowledge whatsoever really because they're great at introducing the thesis statement

Starting point is 01:01:26 from a ground up video game level, you know, outside of fighting games and then taking you into the nuance and then back out, you know, really, really good video essays on stuff that comes from fighting games. It really shows off your taste, though, because like, oh, hey guys, does anybody have any good fighting game videos? And people send me like, oh, here's like a history of broken characters. I'm like, nah, I don't really like that. Or they go, oh, hey, here's, here's some

Starting point is 01:01:51 cool matches from, uh, from combo breaker this weekend, right? And I go, nah, that's not what I want. You know what I want? I want fucking 360 p footage of that guy playing, um, fucking relento and Mega Man versus Raven and Kuro in Street Fighter Cross Tekken. Okay. And just doing the fucking Raven, yeah, Raven combos into fucking Mega Man launching into space until the timer runs out.

Starting point is 01:02:18 That's what I want. Tastes are different, man, because I got right open right here my pre-emptive Marissa notes file on things that we've seen in footage that need to be explored and things that'll probably work on day one or day zero when Marissa is is is finally in my hands so like I I mean, I want that tech all day. I want to know who's doing what, what I'm seeing, what can happen, what's possible? Because, you know, if I see a chess piece

Starting point is 01:02:54 that does shit I've never seen before, I need to know everything about that chess piece before we move forward. I don't give a fuck what else is happening anywhere. What is that? What do you mean it can jump forward one space and go diagonally? You know?

Starting point is 01:03:10 Right on. So yeah, that's gonna be my bullshit this week. Tomorrow's system shock, then it'll be a fucking react content about fighting games. And my Thursday stream with Street Fighter, I don't know when that stream is going to start. Like my, my, my I have on my schedule and little brackets. I don't know when the stream starts. Go ask Capcom about it. I guess because it depends. It depends what shows up in my fucking email

Starting point is 01:03:37 that day at what time. It will start at least at Midnight Eastern or Nine Pacific. Okay. So I from that, who knows? Okay. Oh, somebody asked in the chat, I forgot, how is Bolt Gun? 40K Bolt Gun is an incredible boomer shooter based off of 40K. And is a canonical sequel to Space Marine.

Starting point is 01:03:59 Oh, interesting. Yeah, it's fucking great. It's great, it's fucking good. When you shoot people, it's chunky. There's also a button that has your character just yell crazy shit about the Imperium of Man or the God Emperor, and I played it for like three hours and didn't encounter any repeated voice lines.

Starting point is 01:04:20 So there's probably like a couple thousand voice lines in it of just hit the Y button to be crazy Yes rules Okay Oh, I want to twitch stuffy that go down to twitch.tv slash past stairs at C stuff I've been shipping away at the darkest dungeon too as well behind the scenes and I just want to reiterate, I talked about it when I first played it, but I just want to give another shout out to the back stories in that in that game for the characters and how fucking cool of a mechanic that is.

Starting point is 01:04:58 Just every time you see one on the map, it is like the first thing you want to be lying towards. And essentially, it's just the ability to go in, play through one of five chapters that each gives you another move that you can unlock for the character permanently. And they're all really good, like well-written backstories that are like taking, well, even when sometimes they're just narrator, reading out dialogue to you, which is

Starting point is 01:05:26 solid stuff. Well written. And then sometimes it's gameplay and it'll be like playing through a completely different version of the game mechanics to like convey this story, you know. so you're playing the, uh, the leper, right? And you go back to his chapter one and like, he's a king walking through the streets and he has his, like, um, his posse of, like, you know, disgusting retinue of scumbags. Exactly. You know, and then you've got the beggars that have leprosy on the enemy side and they're begging and crawling forward to try and get help. And you have the actions to push your fucking scumbag, uh, uh, uh, Kings Court, uh, Kortsman aside to get to them to embrace them.

Starting point is 01:06:18 And they're trying to shout you back and you're taking mental damage and stress from the things they're saying at you, you know, and every time you can embrace one, they're like thanking you and then they kind of like ascend and then you you kind of push get pushed back and it's like a gameplay thing where you're using the darkest dungeon mechanics to fight your way through to them, you know, it's fucking phenomenal, man. And like they do that in so many different ways with each character, you know, you get the Vestal who's like meant to be chased, you know, she's a Vestal virgin like like the old Roman days type of thing. And she has her daily life of like lighting the flame, go pick up the wood over here, move your spaces, light the

Starting point is 01:06:59 flame, and uh oh, something's happening out the window. What is it? Your curiosity is an action. You look, you see a couple out there. What are they doing? Oh no, you know, and it's just like, it's such a fucking really well implemented thing. And in each case, you can't wait to get back to the next one. You know, it really, really compels you to just like, oh, I want to play this class again

Starting point is 01:07:22 to get to that next level. And the reward is the best thing ever. It's a new upgrade that you can get long term. Right. And in Dukes dungeon one, all you did was just spend money to buy new moves. Here, it's like a really engaging thing. The payoff for this great story moment or this great gameplay moment is a new move that's going to change the class forever.

Starting point is 01:07:43 And like you're setting your sights on it. Like what a fucking just all around brilliant implementation in the game design. Like I love that shit so much, man. So I had this very strange thing with Darkest Engine 2 where I was playing in a bunch and then I fell off really hard. And I'm like, I don't know. And like I'm still waiting on Steam Cloud support and controller support. So I'm just like, yeah, maybe I won't come back to it.

Starting point is 01:08:07 So I didn't look away from a spoiler. I saw folks somewhere talking about the final boss. Oh, so I was like, you know, I might not ever play this again. I might as well look at it. And I looked at it and I'm like, yeah, when that steam cloud support and that controller support get added to 1.1, I'm definitely going back to Darkstunger 2 because that's probably the coolest fucking thing

Starting point is 01:08:34 I ever seen in video game. That is fucking cool as shit. Wow, okay. Interesting. You got spoiled, that sucks, but also... No, I didn't get spoiled. I intentionally went, eh, fuck it, I'll look at it. Let's see what it is, because I might not see it,

Starting point is 01:08:52 because I'm probably a... You read a spoiler and then, no, no. You just out of, you out of prompted nowhere, okay. Yeah, I was like, I'm probably gonna drop this bummer and then I just go past. Oh, can we talk about the final boss of Darkest Dungeon 2? I'm like, okay, I'll click on that. I'll see what I'm probably gonna miss out on and they're like, oh no, now I'm definitely gonna go back Yeah, okay Well shit, I'm excited then cuz like if I had not done that I probably never would have gone back and played the game again.

Starting point is 01:09:25 At which point I would never have seen it anyway. Kind of thinking. I mean, but now I'm re-incentivized. Like, no, no, I definitely want to see that for myself. That is awesome. Anyone who's beaten the or gotten to the mountain for the demo beta open beta version, open early access, excuse me, has seen like, you know, the chains and how interesting that is. And like they've done this great thing where like the cool major bosses from previous from Dr. Stungeon one are found in layers on the map. And like in encounters that you can, towards and gear up for, but you know exactly where they are

Starting point is 01:10:09 and they're still there, you can still fight the shambler, you can do all that, but the mountain is always special. And having seen at least two things from it so far, yeah, I like what they're building towards, so that's very exciting. Interesting. Cool. Okay. That's pretty much it for me. Oh, no, it's well luckily it's a slow news week this week, but nothing to mock. Yeah. All right, we got to we got to get a move on with that because there is a much to cover. But let's take a quick bathroom break and we'll be right back.

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Starting point is 01:14:35 but before we get to the brunt of it in the Sony event, let's just get the other things out of the way. Sure. So we talked a bit already about the Zatum documentary. We touched on that. And fun little side note, just a little, just a little, little, you know, a, a, a, a, a, moves bush, a, Asuka, our croits has come out in guilty gear,

Starting point is 01:15:04 Asuka, our croits has come out in Guilty Gear, Strive, and the DLC page for him is listing it as, you know, fighting games, downloadable content, deck building, car drawing. That's great. That's just grand. Yes, the DLC is throwing on those extra tags in there for accuracy because you are deck building while you play this fucking character. So good.

Starting point is 01:15:33 So, so good. I love it. Um, all right. Hey, Wully, I have a, I have a weird question. It's from at Castle Super Beast is the best for realsies. They ask, hey, Willie, how do you make the podcast so good every week? That's a great question. Let me, let me go.

Starting point is 01:15:58 Damn, you must be an astute listener. Let me click on that profile page to see how long you must have been listening a whole the whole time haven't you Hey, that's weird. They've said that ever Wait a minute This account was made yesterday and hasn't even said anything What Why would that I have been bamboozled?

Starting point is 01:16:22 How could you have been bamboozled by somebody who loves you? I mean, the wildest part is why not just type gibberish? Like why even go through the trouble of making an account that says nothing? Instead of just typing gibberish. Okay, so, because technically, we're being fun of Blizzard and the Diablo 4 because they recently put out a video where they were like, hey, we're asking, answering questions from the community.

Starting point is 01:16:54 And they would post a question and the questions were all masturbatory. Now, hold on, because the person who made that account did also technically ask that question. Now, now, now, now hold on because the person who made that account did also technically ask that question. So I don't see a problem with this. Isn't that the same account, like the alt account of the person running the video? Yes. Yes. If that person has an alt and then they ask the question and say that they have asked the question on the alt, they are in fact asking the question.

Starting point is 01:17:26 I see nothing wrong with it. So like the, the flag on the place, all that my brain just like shut off in disbelief was like, wow, guys, the graphics and Diablo four are incredible. You guys seem like you worked really hard. How important was it for you guys to have the visuals be so great? And I'm like, you will get the fuck out of here. That is not a real question asked by a human ever. And then, and then you see, oh, maybe these accounts never even

Starting point is 01:17:54 asked those questions. That's my favorite part. Not the alt accounts that ask the questions that are brand new from yesterday. I mean, the accounts that have been up on Twitter for like 14 years and have zero posts that are being referenced. Like they didn't even, you didn't even make a fucking sock puppet to ask the question. You just made that one the fuck up. I mean, I did. It's, it's, it's, it's always great when the phrasing is just like the most, this is Paul marketing writing this.

Starting point is 01:18:25 Oh, yeah. So you can always tell how are legacy players like myself that have enjoyed this journey for so long going to be acknowledged. And how is the journey going to complete itself? Uh, you know, like every time. Okay. You know, like every time. Okay, so to find the actual fucking thread here, dear God, so it was a Diablo event where they're taking Q&A. And then you just run down the list of, because they start showing the questions.

Starting point is 01:18:59 And one of the questions is, as you mentioned, the cutscenes and D for our gorgeous, how important was it to start to get these games as high quality as they are? Emma rocks on Twitter, exactly. And then, uh-oh, Emma rocks on Twitter is an account from 13 years ago. And the only tweet is, I love Justin Bieber in 2010. Okay, here we go. Here's one coming in from S E Z DC to says, thanks for putting couch co-op in the game. I imagine this makes the development significantly harder. Why was it so important to include this in Diablo 4? Like anytime someone asks, why was it so important?

Starting point is 01:19:35 That is a marketer. Real people don't ask about the importance of anything. They ask if it's going to be out on this date, if it's going to have this feature, if it's going to do this thing. They ask who, what, where, when, why? No one's asking how important or why was it important. This account was created today by someone who made it after the presentation. A redditor, Heistmeister, says, with skill trees to be further expanded with

Starting point is 01:20:07 new branches slash choices for existing abilities in the future patches slash seasons, I'd love skill clusters like the Necromancer's curse cluster to have some extra oomph. This user doesn't exist. So apparently, there's an update on this story as of like an hour ago, which was Blizzard came out and said that those questions had been provided to them by a third party marketing agency that they asked to provide questions for them. And like, you can't verify that because they don't say what marketing company it is. And it's like, but if it's a third party marketing company

Starting point is 01:20:57 then why is one of these accounts your alt? This seems like horse shit. How it seems like horse shit. How seems like lies. How important is it for you to tell the truth in when you're marketing anything at people? It's not, obviously. How important is it that this podcast continue to entertain us for years and, and you know, make sure that new players

Starting point is 01:21:28 can new listeners can feel welcome and not just isolated by all the old bits. Oh, well, you know, thanks for thanks for. I'm just going to run away. Thanks for thanks for prompting my bullet point. Yeah. So that's just a quick little classic like, oh, Blizzard, here we go. That's, that's good. That's good. And it goes on, and it goes on, and it goes on. And it's just like if you're gonna actually go through

Starting point is 01:21:58 the fucking bullshit of putting the account up, just assume someone might maybe actually click on it. I don't know. I don't understand the whole purpose of this. They could have easily put out the same exact video that answered all of these questions and just not phrased it like they're answering questions. They're like, here's some stuff we would like to tell you about the game, and then just said the answers

Starting point is 01:22:28 they were gonna say anyway. Yeah, like so the other version of this is when WWE just reads live tweets out, and obviously they're going through the hashtag filter. Obviously they're picking out the things that are the most positive and lie in line with the brand message they're trying to get out there. But people who are typing those tweets know that and are going to lean into that of their

Starting point is 01:22:51 own volition. So it's like, it's really easy and obvious to do this in a way where people will just ask bullshit questions anyway. But no, no, we've got to just go through that extra step because we don't know what the fuck we're doing. And also you're not allowed to have bad opinions about us ever So last that's a good idea Yeah, the fading final Wild West in this world

Starting point is 01:23:15 Is calling up your favorite radio show and they ask you hey? What's your question? What are you gonna talk about about to the host? And then you just lie your ass off. And then once you find if you actually make it through, yeah, you fucking drop whatever bomb you want to drop and fucking, fucking hang up or bababooie, bababooie, bababooie, whatever, whatever the fuck. Yeah. Anyways, good stuff, good stuff going on over there. Good stuff going on as well over at Nintendo. So there, you know, real quick,

Starting point is 01:23:56 some 11 years later, out of nowhere, 3DS patch gets dropped. Turns out you update your 3ds. Does it do anything? No, actually it just stops some home brew stuff that the modding community has been working on and been releasing. It just basically shuts down the exploits the people have been using. Home brew on a console that is explicitly not supported anymore and you can't buy games

Starting point is 01:24:26 for is feels needlessly cruel and vindictive. So you know, then the 3DS home brew and modding community just goes, okay, and pushes out a new patch that circumvents the new patch, like less than a few hours later. So it's, it's really funny. All right. Thanks. I guess moving on. The speed of the speed of them doing that feels like extra victorious because it's like don't even bother wasting the man hours to try and lock this thing down. You're just throwing money. Like it didn't even stop them for one day. Yeah. Yeah. Nothing. Nothing to be gained. But it's more just like a display of intent, you know, it's just it's just kind of them

Starting point is 01:25:21 saying like, Oh, but we're willing though. We're willing to look like dumbasses. Don't you fucking don't you just you wait. Um, anyway, so there's that. Uh, and, um, not much else to this, but front mission to remake, uh, has been delayed. So it was supposed to come out next week. Um out next week, but they're still working on it. So yeah, I mean, you know, they dropped one with fairly a quick turnaround the other day to, I guess, going to take a little bit more time and then the road to three. You know, it's funny because you mentioned Nintendo, like one of the other things, like, they put a cease and desist on dolphin on steam.

Starting point is 01:26:07 Oh, right. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like, I can understand. I can understand them going, nah, that's bad idea. But on the other hand, they also really don't want you to know that there's a fairly easy way to play tears of the kingdom with a way better resolution and frame rate because that's that like Nintendo is unable to stop anyone. So it's kind of sad. So what I heard was that it said steam contacted Nintendo to no, we're not. And then I think that's what the exchange was.

Starting point is 01:26:51 This really steam actually went ahead and did due diligence on something. Because I remember those the screenshots of the steam deck were like, I think there's a screenshot of Yuzu or so, right? That was like on the promotional material. So it's, yeah, I think Valve asked Nintendo about that is what I heard with Dolphin.

Starting point is 01:27:09 And Steam doesn't do diligence on anything. It's interesting because it's like, we're scraping up against the same conversation from fucking 20 years ago with like SNES 9x and shit where it's like, okay, the ROMs themselves are the copyrighted material, the emulator itself is not, that's not proprietary at all. The BIOS might be, but you've got to go get that yourself in some other place. Or if you are making a backup of your own, you know, and like then you get into that,

Starting point is 01:27:44 like this file is, but this file isn't. And yeah, often uploaded the build of dolphin that contained those decryption keys in the files, which is the no-no. OK, OK. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:27:59 So do it again without the files, buddy. Because yeah, the, the, the, yeah, the, the, the, obviously the, uh, what you're going to call it, uh, EP S X E and, and, and the PlayStation. And a lot of the other more advanced, uh, like, uh, you know, stuff beyond the fifth generation was like, okay, you're going to have to get yourself a bio somewhere. Yeah. You know, you're going to have to get yourself this. Where you get it, I don't know, but everything else else is nobody has a friend that was just given to them. Um, okay.

Starting point is 01:28:30 Speaking of robots as well, they announced a day, my next Mac and a Titanic sion. That thing. Yeah. There's a sequel dropping. That's, that's, I'm surprised. I guess like, I know. So, day, my next Mac and I has picked up a pretty, uh,, I'm surprised. I guess like, I know. So, Damien X Mac and I has picked up a pretty loyal following.

Starting point is 01:28:48 Like I've, there was a fan base that really like came out for that and have been pretty vocal. So, yeah, they just kind of did a marvelous game showcase and it wasn't much, it was just like a quick teaser of like a robot being constructed, but there's another one coming. Oh, that's cool.

Starting point is 01:29:09 So, yay, robots live. I felt so torn on Deus Exma, sorry, Damon, X Machina. I remember. I was just like, it wouldn't let me do the missions. It just kept talking to me. It just kept telling me things I didn't care about instead of letting me do the missions. It was a weird situation.

Starting point is 01:29:33 Now the funny thing with that is, I guess, is that like meanwhile in front mission, I couldn't get enough plot like delivered straight to my veins like fucking just right in, write in, give me more plot. I want more talking. I want more cutscenes actually. More internet. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 01:29:54 So I guess it just depends on like what you're doing and how you're doing it and how it's delivered, right? If you're compelled by the plot, then it doesn't feel like it's a downside. Anyway, though, all of that went down this week, but then so did the Sony event. I got to say, I was explaining to everybody that, well, it's a Tarejie, that we have come so far from sitting down at these watchalongs and being like, all right, this is gonna be approximately 65 to 70% trailers,

Starting point is 01:30:39 30% investors talking about bullshit on stage because they wanna see themselves in a suit and and and what they want to see if they basically like they want to have their Reggie moment, right? They want to have their Reggie Fisa May. I'm about kicking ass and making game at the kicking names And we're about making games like that made his career and he was able to slingshot that into literally being the president of the fucking company. So, like, there was an era where a whole bunch of people at a whole bunch of companies were like, if I can get on stage and talk to the people and establish my character, I can sling shot that into shut the fuck up, play the trailer, please, you know? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:31:19 You know what else it was? It was also, we'd sit down and we're like, it is absolutely 100% mandatory to watch this because this is 70% of the entire year's news in this one, two hour session. Right. So it's become a very like streamlined and refreshing experience to have Nintendo direct be like game, game, game, game. Here's a guy explaining it for like 30 seconds, game, game, game, you know, and in this case, yeah, in the span of one hour, they dropped trailers for 32 games. So Um, so a whole lot was announced before we make any judgments. Insiders say that Sony was holding it back after mixed reaction. That's always my favorite. Every time there's like one of these shows that people go, yeah, that was it.

Starting point is 01:32:22 like one of these shows that people go, yeah, that was it. That like so, here comes the insider to be like, they were holding back all that good shit. They didn't show it. You don't know what they didn't show. It was so cool, but they didn't show it. Like, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yeah, okay.

Starting point is 01:32:41 Whatever you say. I cannot hear you. I also had a bit of a moment earlier watching this where I realized that the shitty way things were handled in the past and the E3 era meant that the entire studio had to somewhere like, you know, halfway through the year, make, turn the whole studio around to get the E3 build ready to get the vertical slice ready. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:33:17 Hey, guys, six months of this three year dev time is for the E3 demo. Take a bunch of people that are needed on the team and have them go work on a separate thing over here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. on the team and have them go work on a separate thing over here. Yadda Yadda and the whole project is redirected around this, right? And we've moved out of that era. And so because it's less central, things can just announce whenever they're ready, and whenever they're ready is when they show themselves off at the next possible event. So that means that like now the trailers that are gonna be shown off like

Starting point is 01:33:45 They can be Kind of held back if they wanted to but it feels as if it doesn't really matter as much anymore So I guess like I'm just like whatever we're watching is what happened to be ready to show something at this point in time and So they could have done something like said, oh, high fire rush, we'll hold on to that until we have a megaton big show. Or, you know, any of the other things that have happened between then and now, we could hold on to that for a megaton announcement. It's like, oh, no, that was ready then. Just drop it then. This was ready beforehand. And then like, whatever

Starting point is 01:34:20 we're seeing here is just the things that are at that point within their development without needing E3 looming over their heads as the point to act to develop towards. That's better for the industry overall, but it now means, I guess, that the old mentality of like, oh, Microsoft won, Nintendo won, Sony won. Like the whole, they catered the whole industry of their first exclusives around this event.

Starting point is 01:34:49 It doesn't mean that anymore. That's kind of meaningless. So that whenever people are going like, Oh, they fucking want with this. It's like, no, these are just the games that they're showing that are around that time of their schedule. You know, it's not a catered fuck everything over to get it ready to drop a big bomb and have everyone go the megatons, you know, that arrows thankfully gone. So what's happening? And it's like, so you used to, you, what you used to get from, from developers that didn't

Starting point is 01:35:15 want to waste their fucking time making a massive E3 build. What you used to get is like, hey, here's the fake vertical slice that we show to the producers in production, as the demo, right? Or here's the only level that currently exists in the game. It cleaned up for the demonstration. And then that level fucking leaves, it gets cut or whatever the fuck But now we're at the level where I agree that that is a

Starting point is 01:35:53 Like a like an accurate depiction of like how the the process works But now we're a thing of like what's done? What can we show and then the you know executive producers says nothing? And they go well, we we gotta show something. Like, okay, well, is the CG intro movie on the main menu done? Yeah. Yeah? Okay, that'll be the announcement trailer. Yeah. Put that out there. What, you mean the one that we,

Starting point is 01:36:21 that was like the pitch video? Yeah. Just put the pitch video. Yeah. Just put pitch video. Can we have a guy walk out and open his shirt and just say we do it? Can we do that? Right? There were like, there were like,

Starting point is 01:36:34 this is a wireless version, but there are like 15 fucking moments during that thing where I'm like, I just see that it's CG and my brain just turned off and I'm like, oh, this is like the pitch trailer for the fucking company. Yeah. Fucking whatever.

Starting point is 01:36:50 There was that gorgeous animated trailer for all the thing from Gris, the Gris. Yeah, yeah, it was beautiful. And I was like, oh man, this looks gorgeous. This was nothing. We gorgeous. This was nothing. We saw nothing. Yeah. The first thing, the very first thing we saw was like a four people

Starting point is 01:37:13 going to rob a bank game with, I can't even remember the fucking name. I can't even remember the fucking name fair games, fair games. Yeah. Was that it? Maybe. I don't remember, but yeah, it was ever. Yeah, I was just like this is a amazingly animated trailer shout-outs to the talent that made it. This tells us nothing about the game, but hopefully the game has this art did. We were the last event show had a beautiful like card game. I think it was and it was like, um, it was like, what was it called? It was like nature punk or something like that. Like a like I know.

Starting point is 01:38:17 Yeah. It just, you know, anyway, all right. So obviously there's bigger announcements than others in this list, but taken from the top fair games dollar sign. Was was absolutely there. Mine is well been. You know what? I said, I'm like the CG trailer for fair games might as well be a poster.

Starting point is 01:38:38 Like that, that's that's all we're getting from it. It might as well be a poster. That's all we're getting from it. It might as well be a poster. We got to see another look at Immortals of AVIM, the FPS Magic Wilding game that Reggie thought was mass effect. That's really funny. So yeah, that, you know.

Starting point is 01:39:00 I can see Immortals of AVIM and I'm about to get really unfair to a lot of games in the near future. Right. Tears of the kingdom is a really good example of Nintendo saying to not chase fancy graphics. And instead they chased like cool ideas with the way that I mean, I'm sure you've seen people talking about like, game devs just losing their mind over like the physics system in that game and the things that it allows and the engineering situations you can do. And I look at, I remember sitting there looking at Immortals of Avium, which is like a bog standard FPS game

Starting point is 01:39:43 with what looks like a terrible story going, but your guns are magic instead and I'm like this is just the weakest shit. This is just the like the fucking this is the fucking grilled cheese of video games, just who gives a shit? Yeah, I don't really know what to make of it, but I guess the one thing that I think of whenever I see, there's basically like, whatever this game is, whatever is going on, I actually like FPS more when I see cool hand things happening. Yeah. So Ghostwire Tokyo with all the cool little pulls and casting and whatever going on, you know,

Starting point is 01:40:35 and seeing seeing that. See that. All of my hand. Everybody's mad that I use grilled cheese as a pejorative. My point is you can get a grilled cheese anywhere. That's my point. Yeah. If you do cool first-person hand things, I care a bit more because that should always looks pretty sick. But other than that, I don't know what the fuck is going on in that. that I don't I don't know what the fuck is going on in that. What did they show? Oh, yo, okay. So speaking of which, making first person cooler, Ghost Runner 2 announced. That's cool. Awesome. That looked very interesting. Very, very happy to see that made enough momentum to get a second game go and that game is stylish as fuck.

Starting point is 01:41:25 And yeah, I saw the mask character and I was like, oh, that's a destiny ass mask. What the, oh my god, it goes runner. Yeah. So looking forward to seeing a solidist on those leader boards cleaning it up. Dear thing, don't embarrass yourself. Yeah, we talked about sort of the sea

Starting point is 01:41:54 from the people behind Abzu and Pathless and Journey. And you bet, you fucking bet. You see the journey. Oh fucking made journey. And the thing is, the thing is man, I fucking love journey, right? And I guess there's a part of me that is a little, not bummed out, but I'm a little like mournful

Starting point is 01:42:19 that I feel like journey was amazing, but it was of the time. And it was, you know, Journey was so of the time and Shadow of the Colossus similarly was of the time. And I guess what I mean by that is, games... I disagree with that. Really? Okay.

Starting point is 01:42:41 Yeah. I think Shadow of the Colossus could come out right now and people would go nuts about it. But not in a world where so many things inspired by shadow of the colossus are Here you have to delete those But you history without just no, but my whole point is without deleting them, right? The games where like the pathway through the game is a visual spectacle Ten to ten like they don't hit as strongly as they used to right because once upon a time a simple game with a simple Visual spectacle and like and a nice gameplay integration would make me a dedicated fan of you for life. Res is one of my fucking, you know what I mean?

Starting point is 01:43:29 Res is forever. But like obviously that's the further back you go, the more that stands out. Now of the time things that are kind of just as visual, there will be experiences that come and are magnificent, but don't leave anywhere near as much of an impact. Simply because the inspiration, the children of Res, the children of Shadows of the Colossus and of Journey have come and have gone. And so something that like I fucking love the shit

Starting point is 01:44:02 out of cyanaro wild hearts. It was cool. People are like, yeah, that's a dope thing check it out some time but if that were obviously, you know a decade ago I would that it would be such a massive impact, you know So it's funny because you mentioned this about like journey and it's like a sea, but what I thought you were gonna talk about was that like, I look at sort of the sea and it's so aggressively, I burst out laughing when it was not called journey two. Like it is so journey, again, I couldn't believe it.

Starting point is 01:44:48 And as such, I'm like, I have journey at home. Yeah, and I do think that to some degree, there's something to be said about, like, the same people that made journey, made a couple other things, and now they kind of want to go back to that thing because that was super great. And it's like, yeah, we recognize that. they kind of want to go back to that thing because that was super great.

Starting point is 01:45:08 And it's like, yeah, we recognize that. My only hope, of course, is that some of that magic can, you know, be recaptured and that there's enough new things going on because obviously, hey, Shadow the Colossus is amazing. But we don't talk much about Trico, right? We really, we don't say anything about the last Guardian even though we were waiting on that for a very long time. And it came out and it has a similar eco, you know, level of like silence and world building and establishing.

Starting point is 01:45:41 It's a lot of those cues are all there. But for some reason, all this time later, that, you know, it didn't, it didn't manage to do what was going, what, what, what we appreciated, you know, from the, the others. So, I suppose to some degree, it's just the, the thought is that we've seen many journey likes that are not journey in the time since. And I don't mind them going back and going like, Hey, look, guys, remember journey because like it was so fucking good at the time. I just hope that it's more than just remember journey, right? Because a child of Eden was, Hey, remember, Res, and you're like,

Starting point is 01:46:25 oh, but then... But this isn't even as good as Res. At all, right? And then it was like, yo, Res area X, and you're like, yeah! Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. We back, you know? So there's sometimes you just kind of,

Starting point is 01:46:40 you go for the nostalgia pull from even the same creators creators and it's like, that's not enough. It's not just like, hey guys, remember this thing. You've got to find more to it than the similar design cues and even the tone, you know? Yeah, I just, I look at sort of the C and it's like, you know what really appealed to me about journey was that it was a completely unique thing and it was fascinating. And I'm not fascinated by what appears to be a highly similar thing. When the uniqueness and novelty is what appealed to me,

Starting point is 01:47:18 you don't have the uniqueness and novelty anymore. So it just, I just go, I'm wondering what I just go, yeah. So, so like journey, for example, is just a visually striking, beautiful game. Very distinct, the art style stands out and musically everything is happening in a way that is synced to your adventure. But alongside that, there's the novelty of what's happening in game, which is, you know, the chance to encounter a stranger and have an anonymous adventure with them. And, you know, go on this emotional trek and then there's a payoff to that, you know. That I don't know, obviously you can try to do something similar to that.

Starting point is 01:48:05 But the same type of thing wouldn't work again, you know? No. So there was something about that unexpected nature of like the credits roll and you go, holy shit, that was somebody? What? You know, if it wasn't obvious, because sometimes you get somebody who starts doing fucking tea bagging and you're like, oh yeah, well, of course, that's a person. But I'm like, I was crazy about you.

Starting point is 01:48:29 I got the white suit, the white cloak. I did everything that could be done in that fucking game. I thought it was incredible. And then I'm like, looking at this, I'm like, I don't feel like doing that again, but with skateboard tricks. It's, yeah, I don't get it. So I'm kind of, I guess I'm like, I'm thinking about it and I'm wondering, you know, like, how do you mechanically surprise somebody these days, you know?

Starting point is 01:48:56 Um, the, now journey was a game that I remember. My friend told me about it and she basically was like, wait, you haven't played this? Okay, you have to play it. Also, I can't tell you anything about it. You just need to go in cold. And then she's like, come over and play. You know, she's like, come over, play this. And then I'm not going to say anything. You know, I was like, okay. And so I got it. I got it in like the best possible sealed vacuum, you know. But yeah, these days, it also feels like you have more to overcome with that, you know? So I don't know, but in a world where you can have a, you have a rez, you have a child

Starting point is 01:49:34 defeated and then an area X, you can see the two paths, you know? You could have, you could have a shadow of the colossus and then you could have a, a glass guardian, you know. So like I see in the chat, there's a really fantastic equivalent here that people are mentioning, which is outerwilds. That is a great answer. That's a fantastic answer to what I just asked. Yes. Fuck yeah. I feel like outerwilds is a little different because what, what, so outerwiles is definitely novel, right? That appeal to me. But the core of outerwiles was

Starting point is 01:50:12 this is the best feeling to solve a mystery ever. And then they put out a DLC, which, I don't know if you've played the DLC, will they, or beat outerwiles, but the DLC for outerws is like a full sequel. It's like a whole fucking sequel. Nice. To Outer Wilds.

Starting point is 01:50:32 And like prove that, oh yeah, they could do it again. So yeah, I would fight someone in the street to get just a more, like literally a game called more Outer Wilds or Out outer wilds or outer wilds. Now the foot because the mystery and the method of solving it and the feeling of discovery is what attracted to me, not the novelty. Now the funny part too is how difficult it was for that game to do that in this world where you had to come on and go, do not look at the store page for this game. Never mind people. Never mind tweets. Never mind anything.

Starting point is 01:51:15 Literally the official store page, you can't look at it. You have to buy and click play without even skipping that somehow. I think the difference here is that people who played out of wads were like overwhelmingly cool about it. Mm-hmm. That's good, that's good. Yeah. So as time goes on, it's going to get harder and harder for games like that to have a fucking amazing

Starting point is 01:51:44 discoverable moment in them. Now luckily 13 set and goals will never be popular. Dude, it's, it's George, it's George's fault. It's George's fault. If he doesn't port it to PC, if they don't port it to PC, it's there. It's 100% their fault. You're gonna port to switch with a lower fray rate

Starting point is 01:52:14 where people can technically then call it a PC port. But there's no actual PC port. Yeah, that's rough, man. God, so much effort for something so many people want, but can't get to. Anyway, my emotional trailer for that is as best as I'm going to tell you about it. Back, yeah, the fucking no context, no spoilers, just me and Reggie reacting to moments as they happen emotionally. Fuck, man. The fuck, man. Super cut of, oh.

Starting point is 01:52:50 That's upsetting. Yeah. I don't know, man. I don't know. Like, you can't make, you can't have the ambition to make a game with a surprise and then also decide to shoot yourself in the foot like that. You have to give yourself every advantage as possible to let word of mouth spread. Man, imagine if high-fi rush was like ex-bode exclusive.

Starting point is 01:53:22 If that was just like or something like that where you just couldn't reach out to a bunch of people that are frothing to get at it. The only thing that is like very good for 13 centinals is that PS4 onwards and Xbox One onwards. You're putting those games in that digital locker. And there's no reason to believe that backwards compatibility for your digital games will stop at any point in the future. The reason why I say this, I forgot to talk about this. Have you seen the Phil Spencer interview with kind of funny, now that came out like a week or two ago.

Starting point is 01:54:07 It is fucking hilarious. Phil Spencer looks like the saddest, most frustrated man in the world. But the cliff's notes of it is that he talks about how the Xbox One generation was the worst generation anyone could have ever lost in the history of the market. Because now people have digital libraries. And no matter how many good games they make,

Starting point is 01:54:37 you're not gonna pull somebody off of Sony when they have a bunch of PS4 and PS5 games that they're gonna have backwards compatible forever and that it's not enough to just make good games. It's not enough. He then goes on to like, he goes on to like throw like the arcane under the bus for Redfall

Starting point is 01:55:02 and been like really, it was the mistakes that Microsoft made was that we didn't impart to our third party collaborators or partners that certain standards are expected at Xbox and we didn't do enough enough of a good job to send people over to really emphasize what kind of standards we really like at Xbox. And then says that we did a way better job of that

Starting point is 01:55:38 with Starfield because we saw Starfield earlier and then we said that we sent people over to Bethesda to really show them what kind of standards we wanted Xbox. So he accidentally lets out that when Microsoft bought Bethesda, that Starfield was like massively fucked, and that Microsoft was sending people over to their offices to tell them to get their shit together. He just looks so depressed. That's the whole interview.

Starting point is 01:56:11 Of all that bullshit, the nugget right there in the middle though, where it's like people have existing libraries and do not want to lose them. Yeah. Yeah. That's how it felt in every generation with the physical amount that is no longer going to be with the amount of physical shit people would have with their libraries over time. Yeah. The digital library that has no physical limitation to it where there's nothing to stop you from letting me keep this except for a hard drive. Fuck you. Absolutely. Fuck you. If you're telling me keep this except for a hard drive? Fuck you

Starting point is 01:56:46 Absolutely fuck you if you're telling me to throw that money down the toilet So it's funny because Xbox really pushed hey guys We're gonna move your physical libraries over to your digital ones You could sometimes use your digital your physical library on the Xbox, but really We're gonna go online hard and it's all gonna be about your digital library And then they made it so that nobody built that Digital library on their platform. So okay everyone took you seriously Everyone said okay, I'm gonna build a digital library on my console, but it's not gonna be your console

Starting point is 01:57:18 So like let's say right now. Let's say Sony and now is Sony Microsoft announced their new platforms and the PlayStation looks like shit and the Xbox looks pretty good. I'm still gonna end up buying the PlayStation because I have like, tall your shit fucking games that'll work on it. Man, dude. And just that, that like coming from that fucking era where the response was how to trade games on PlayStation.

Starting point is 01:57:46 Here you go. Wow, look at that. Like videos like that, like just dunking on the whole digital ownership thing, like look extra ridiculous now, given that they could have, they could have handled this in a way where they took the momentum of the 360 forward because the 360 was massive. Was a slam dunk. It was as big as the PS2. Right. So it's kind of interesting and funny to look at it now and go, you know, at every of all three companies, everyone had a seat on the throne at some point. Everyone had their time.

Starting point is 01:58:25 You know, Nintendo was on the throne at the beginning. Microsoft, the Sony came in, Microsoft took it, and then gave it back and Sony reclaimed it, but everyone had a chance at it. You know, it's wild how they just handed it away after the 360 for the dumbest reasons ever, but it's always that same thing though, it's the dumbest, but it's so predictable, right? It's the hubris.

Starting point is 01:58:51 It's we have the momentum, we are the industry leaders, we're setting the pace. People, the consumer will follow us. If we make a harsh decision, if we make something that is an anti-consumer decision, if we take something away from you, you still know that your favorite things are going to end up here because all these devs are behind us. So you're going to show up right here when we... Where'd they go? Why aren't they here?

Starting point is 01:59:19 Where'd they go? Oh, shit. It re-contextualizes like a lot of what Microsoft's been doing in the past couple of years. So you look at Game Pass. I'm like, oh, Game Pass is like a subscription service to new games, right? Oh, that's why they pushed it so hard. They're trying to now de-emphasize having the library and they're trying to emphasize having games as a service.

Starting point is 01:59:44 The access, right? Oh, you access it. It's super cheap. You don't need to buy games as a service. The access. Right? Oh, you access it. It's super cheap. You don't need to buy games. You don't need to build up a big library to have your games on Xbox. And then they ran that for a year and a half

Starting point is 01:59:56 or fucking whatever. And then they come out and go, yeah, actually Game Pass is losing a shit ton of money. But when we raise the price, everybody left, really? When you raise the price off a dollar a month, people left? Yeah, no shit, dude. The proposition is we will give you the library

Starting point is 02:00:19 that you don't have here if you subscribe. We know you've got that library. We have to fight that by giving it to you in the service. I never even did the same thing, but way better, way earlier. Where are you subscribed? Okay, here's a game. You'll keep it forever. And if you unsubscribe, and then re-subscribe later, you'll get it back. Oh, so you mean I have like 100 games that I got for free for Sony Sony as long as I keep subscribed, I'll have them forever. And it was one by one, but over time that did accumulate.

Starting point is 02:00:51 Yeah, that's, that is a, I never thought about the context of Game Pass as a retaliation to the rolling digital library that PlayStation owners have, you know, it's, it's funny because like they actually started it. Like this was their idea. Three six, I mean, my 360, it still has a fuck ton of XBLA on it. Yeah, totally so much money spent back in that era. It was a regular thing. And then we'd like, like at work, I remember, we would probably talk more about XBLA games that were coming out than like disc titles.

Starting point is 02:01:37 There was an era where it was just like, it was such a regular thing, you know? Yeah. Yeah. such a regular thing, you know? Yeah, yeah, it's it because they I remember like they they were like we want to be steam But for the console and then they made it so unappealing That Sony was steamed for the console by default like just Just because it wasn't like it's like they want to be steam and they invented the console version of the epic game store And it's like they want to be steam and they invented the console version of the Epic Game Store. And it's like, you know what people fucking take anything with this. Interesting.

Starting point is 02:02:09 It is a sad interview in which the guy just looks sh-fuckin'- they're asking about the merger and he's like, yeah, we plan to appeal the decision. Oh my god. Oh, very- Oh, wow. Very confident that we'll get to- and like, like, you're looking at them and like, you are not confident. You know that merger isn't going to happen. You just know. Like, Jesus, Christ.

Starting point is 02:02:37 And it's funny because like all the merger stuff and all the thing, every time the merger comes up, the Activision goes, we promise we'll put Call of Duty on the PlayStation, we big promise and it's like the only reason that's your go-to is because the plan is, is to take this part of people's libraries away from them and say that it will only continue here. And then you, like nobody's gonna be like, I desperately want to play my old madden or call of duty games. No, those people chased the new one.

Starting point is 02:03:10 Um, every announcement for any console, like the first question is always, okay, backwards compatibility. What are we doing? Right? Yeah, and we had to back it forth where the answer was no. And now we're at the point where the answer must be yes. Which is right. I mean, like, to think there was a time when the answer was maybe-ish when the PS3, some of them had PS2 hardware inside. And then later that hardware was removed and there was an emulator put inside and then later It was like okay never mind, but some of them will be available on psn maybe Yeah, stop asking shut up, you know like they actually sort of addressed it and then changed the skew entirely

Starting point is 02:04:04 Fuck man anyway dressed it and then changed the skew entirely. Fuck, man. Anyway. Um, and then Nintendo's still there being themselves. Eating crayons and making a billion, should, a million dollars. Um, hold on a second. Be right back. Hold on. So yeah, we got a couple things announced. That was

Starting point is 02:04:29 God. We were on the first or the second. Okay. Well, let's keep moving. Fan and blade zero. Action RPG looks cool. Couldn't tell what I was looking at for a while. And then extraordinarily gray. Extraordinary gray. Set piece ass set pieces, but then the combat looked like it started opening up. So I was like, fuck yeah, because anytime something is a little too set piecey, you're like, mm, how much of this am I actually gonna be playing? But it looks as if like the combat is not just like

Starting point is 02:05:02 mash X on rails type of thing. So I'm hoping. But I took a lot of shit last time because I got confused by a couple different games. So this is a, there was this, and this is feudal China, right? Yeah. There was there was this and there was this is this is futile China right yeah Okay, and then there was well well long when it was first showed off

Starting point is 02:05:33 Then there was was it rise of the Ronin Yeah, that one also kind of looks similar Yes, but no, but I'm trying to remember the developer. Oh, that's a Koi Tecmo. That was Koi. Okay, and then I want to say there was one more samurai one where you were more of a set character. Yeah, that's a little vague.

Starting point is 02:06:01 Fuck. Yeah. Anyway, there's a lot. Okay, there's some assassin's Creed shit somewhere. I'm sure in There um, am I thinking I'm not thinking of Wu Kong? I don't think I'm thinking of Wu Kong. No, no, no, it's definitely not Cuz I just, uh, uh, yeah, fuck. Whatever. Move on. It doesn't. All right.

Starting point is 02:06:32 All right. All right. All right. All right. Fine. Um, God, it's bothering me. All right. All right.

Starting point is 02:06:41 So, so, uh, uh, uh, Fanon Blade zero looks. Yeah, we'll see more of that. Um go sort of to the talus principle two. Yeah, sure. I don't know what that is. It's a puzzle game. Okay. Mm hmm. Um. Got robots or something. Yeah. I seem to like that game. Well, I just my brain said, Talos Principle is another of the like the collection of first person confusion. I'll call it genre, you know, be it God. I can't even remember the name. Hey, you fucking fall in a part over here. What's going on?

Starting point is 02:07:28 No, no, because now my brain's trying to go in a different direction. But superliminal portal, the one where it's, what the fuck was that one called? The beginner's guide was kind of different, not really the same, but still, Stanley Parable, thank you, Stanley Parable, anti-chamber, first person puzzle confusion. Yes. I now understand exactly what you mean

Starting point is 02:07:58 by first person confusion. Yes, yes, that's what I'm trying to say. Mm-hmm. Yes, yes, that's what I'm trying to say. So I didn't play the Talos principle, but I think it's one of those. It is one of those. Okay. You open doors with puzzle things. Talos principle is one of those games is everybody talks just talks it up It's like oh my god, it's incredible and then I looked at that and I was like man. I would hate this shit I have to think real hard to do that. I don't I don't want to do that good for you guys though

Starting point is 02:08:39 Mm-hmm Um Yeah, you know, it probably was like a dragon ishine was the trailer that was playing at the same event and then let it go. Yeah, it's it's God you literally said action came with Samurai man that could be one million different games. I know I know but then I got roasted for not remembering the specific difference and I was like but there was so many Well, I've mispronounced my own name We're idiots to the sooner you accept it and then at the same time trek to Yomi Trek to Yuma Trek to you know

Starting point is 02:09:21 Wait, what is that a Western? Trek to Not for 10 to you ma trek to you trek. Oh god damn it. You're doing it to yourself man Trek to you taking about on Amusha. I'm pretty sure trek to yomi trek to yomi the the reading the mind of the opponent Yeah, that was another one. All right. We got to see a little bit of never. And then I saw Cat Quest, and I was like, is that a mobile game ad? And I was like, no, it's a, it's a, it's a cat quest. It's a regular game. It's a game. It just had very strong mobile game vibes. How about Splatoon at home? Sony foam stars. What's the difference this time? The foam creates a texture that you can run up and down on. Wow. I like it. That's the

Starting point is 02:10:21 second time now recently where I like there's the there's because you know again Nintendo will make a genre and then ignore it and then everyone else will come on and start doing their own thing and twisted and then actually turn it into a genre. Um, the we have a splatoon at home vibes. Like there's probably something in the gameplay that is also really, really different, but just arbitrarily so. Like, eventually it's not like points or something.

Starting point is 02:10:51 It's like, you know what I mean? There's probably like one major factor just like, we can't just be Splatoon. So we'll throw this other thing in there. But holy shit, it's a Splatoon at home. Fucking game. And like, I was overwhelmed with the feeling of like this makes me feel like I am looking at art of fighting.

Starting point is 02:11:13 Like it is, it is so blatantly stolen in its concept that I look like I'm looking at Rio, the karate man. So even before it got to the foam mechanic, we saw the faces of the characters and I was like, oh look, it's hero shooter art style. Right. We're doing the thing. We're doing the, um, the post picks are, um, post fortnight, like right proportions, get that same style going.

Starting point is 02:11:46 Mm-hmm. What's this going to be? It is a team shooter in fact, but this time it's, it's, it's the fucking, it got this the territory game again. Um, when we saw that last game that was gang beasts at home, do you remember that one? Yeah. Like it like there's a level of brazenness to it that is you almost have to respect the hustle a little bit because It's so blatant. It's so unbelievable. It's like we're staring at you right in the eye as we pretend we're not taking your shit We're looking at you and we're just doing your thing and we're taking all of it and Party animals. That's what it was, you know, and in this case, it's like, yeah, well, we're never going to get Splatoon because that's a first party exclusive. So we have to come up with something, I guess. Here you go.

Starting point is 02:12:41 I like the gimmick is that the foam can go up and down and change the the the layout of the map because it has weight. You're not just painting it and Look the whole map will change as you play and my gut says that seems like shit. I Don't want the whole map to fucking change around me in a fucking shooter. I want the fucking map to be the fucking map. We took building out a fortnight and we made our own Splatoon game with it. Gentrifying the neighborhood to win. And the name is terrible. The name is like astonishingly fucking bad. Like five stars. Like I'm really glad that my monthly subscription to Final Fantasy 14 could pay for this fucking game again.

Starting point is 02:13:40 Something I say every year. every fucking year, I say. And it's true. What's the pun? Is there a pun to it? Does foam stars sound like something? Yeah. I don't think it is a pun. I think it's just kind of sucks.

Starting point is 02:13:56 Like I feel like foam stars showing up on the credit card bill is right next to soap land. It really is. What's the tagline? credit card bill is right next to soap land. It really is. What's the tagline? Join the foam blasting frenzy. Oh, as well say like get frothy. Right man.

Starting point is 02:14:17 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Son, what's on my credit card bill here? You have a you've been subscribing to foam stars, huh? No, stop it. Yeah, I, anyway, I mean... I'm glad to have seen like just a somewhat universal reaction of,

Starting point is 02:14:45 oh, well, that's just the two. See, but here's the thing. If it's free, then a bunch of people that don't have switches are gonna fucking play it. So. No, that's not true. That's not true. That means a bunch of people might play it.

Starting point is 02:15:09 Not true. That means a bunch of people might play it. Let's see. It also has to be good on top of that. And Square Enix's fucking track record with fucking multiplayer shooters is bad. They're trying. They're really trying because they know that gas money is just like half-comsions. But that gas money, that gas money pad, that gas money. Gotta pay, you gotta pay, you gotta pay to ride, man. That gas money's too good. It's so funny because Square Enix has the most successful gas in the world. But is it theirs though?

Starting point is 02:15:39 Is it really theirs? Yeah, it literally is. Because it feels like every time they try to go like act like it's there Someone smacks the shit out of them and says you get the fuck away from it Is it truly there's You know law can I ruin it? No, you can't ruin it. Then it won't make any more money. I Don't know man There are logos on that shit, but I don't know man. There are logos on that shit but I don't

Starting point is 02:16:06 know if it belongs to them. I think they have to ask permission to do anything to the thing that they supposedly own. That thing maybe doesn't own to them. You know, my words don't make sense but you know what I mean. You feel it. FF 16, just drop a fuck it, Yoshi P logo on it. Oh, there's a tiny piece of FF 16 news, and that is that there will be no day one patch. They are extraordinarily confident in the gold version, the retail release. Okay, bold statement.

Starting point is 02:16:44 That's cool. Okay, bold statement. It's cool. They showed off a trailer for that as well. Showed off some stuff and it's like, yep, still looks good. Yep. And then, yeah, right around then, they dropped the trailer for a... Fucking the voxel game there. trailer for uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh So tear down rules, tear down is a great game. It is a really, really fucking cool game. I have a question about these types of announcements.

Starting point is 02:17:30 When you're talking about a game that's been out for like a long time, like a year, and you make the announcement of like, hey, it's coming to PlayStation, I expect the date to be like this month. And instead, it's like coming soon later this year. And it's like, why, why are you telling, what? Who cares?

Starting point is 02:17:55 It's weird when it's a game you can go get right now. Yeah, that was the same for the mobile game that announced too, right? There was a game that got ported over to console from mobile. And it was similarly like, it's already out now. I it's it's, uh, um, oh, Jesus Christ. Sorry. Okay.

Starting point is 02:18:22 I was caught. They've been one of those days, huh, buddy? So I'll tell you exactly what just happened. So I have a list of like everything that was announced and halfway through the list, the titles of the games, I didn't copy over. So, so when I looked at the tear down thing, it says the voxel based video game,

Starting point is 02:18:43 no type, nothing, with this date next to it. And then the point right afterwards, which I was gonna say about the mobile thing said free to play open world action RPG has migrated to mobile in PC. So I'm like, oh, it just didn't copy properly. So fuck, you know, I'd have to go scroll back to find it. Anyways, yeah, that, I'd have to go scroll back to find it. Anyways.

Starting point is 02:19:12 Yeah, that was all right before we got the fucking Metal Gear Delta trailer. Okay. And we've got some meat to talk about. A long side Metal Gear Delta was the Metal Gear collection part one featuring solid one, solid two, solid three. Maybe I'm a base versions. It seems like, but I looked at that and I said, Hey, the HD collection coming back onto PlayStation and being able to be part of our library going forward. So those games are forever is the best thing we saw at that whole event. Yeah I want a version of MGS one that runs good and works good that I can keep forever, please

Starting point is 02:19:59 Thank you. However, I don't know if the announcement specified that it was going to be subsistence, or if it was the baseline versions of both two and three. They said it was the HD collection version, which would mean subsistence, and they also clarified that Metal Gear 1 and 2 are part of this collection because of the insubcistence. Okay, great. So it is basically a port are part of this collection. Okay. Because it's in subsistence. Okay. Great. So it is basically a port up of the HD collection. Wonderful.

Starting point is 02:20:29 Step one is get the games in our hands. One includes the VR missions. Okay. Now is the fact that this is called collection volume one, implying that collection volume two is they're going to finally port MGS4? So at the end, they put up a picture and and at the bottom, it says volume one, and at the bottom, it has like a question mark plus symbol. So, it doesn't necessarily mean MGS4. It probably means and five and zero. But I think that it would be really cool

Starting point is 02:21:11 if they got MGS4 off that goddamn unrecordable piece of shit. Pops piece walker acids and four would be a pretty big deal specifically because four needs to get pulled. Four needs to be rescued. I am really looking forward to generations of people who played these games as children and remember them as those cool action games. Look, being like, why is it so political?

Starting point is 02:21:46 What the fuck is this? The same guy that just got back from the rage against the machine concert who works on Wall Street, just go and love these guys. But when did, but geez, just, you know, and then he has to sit down and play Street Fighter 6 using his woke controls. Yeah, man, I don't know. I think that's all great. That's all fine, right? Wonderful. Konami just port the shit. Leave it alone. It really takes the sting off of any weirdness you may feel then going, look, we will give you the things that you want. That's what I said at the time.

Starting point is 02:22:31 It was like, yeah, so, okay, not everybody wants what, why farm bionic, hot dog man? Fine. Yeah. Here is, here's rearmed. Yeah. Oh, there you go. That's what I wanted, huh? All right.

Starting point is 02:22:48 Now, now, no, yes, no, yes. Yeah. And that's it, right? If you just, if you bring the old, the, the port back so that at the very least, it's not trapped, then you do the new thing and people can be like, yeah, take it or leave it, whatever the old thing is preserved. Delta, whatever the pun is, you know, three try alphabet, yeah, yeah, they did actually explain what the meaning of calling it snake eater Delta is. Okay. So, Delta means change, it's God. It's change without removing structure.

Starting point is 02:23:35 So it's different, but it's the same. But like, what part about the Greek letter makes that implicit. I don't know. They said that that's what Delta means. That's what I'm giving you. That's what I have. And also, and triangles have three sides. So three.

Starting point is 02:23:58 Sure. Okay. Dude, they're not, could she must not there? They're not, I have the same level of bullshit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no Okay, so are I'm I gonna have to go fucking Google the symbol every time is there an alt number that we're gonna have to type out or Like what are we doing here, you know, I hey man. They're not gonna do this MGD the The biggest scandal ever. But could you imagine somebody arguing

Starting point is 02:24:29 of like pull his name off it? Could you imagine, oh, I can't, I can't. But can you imagine having to explain to somebody that like people will try and break into the office and yell at them if they try to pull the name off. Jesus Christ man. I mean, like I did see fucking keely in the comments just being like who made it? Who made it? Who made it?

Starting point is 02:25:01 And it was like, you know, Jeff's side, you don't have to, you don't have to. And he day was like, you know, Jeff's side, you don't have to, you don't have to. And he's, it's funny because like his reaction to like the, the, the day that it got announced, could Jim is like eating lunch. Yeah, posted like a super, super normal, yeah, because, because Jeff Keely is today over could Jim is anger interpreter, right? Like, this is what we have to understand. I really got the feeling that it was like, I'm so over it, I'm not even gonna talk about it.

Starting point is 02:25:29 I'm just gonna tweet my launch, I don't care. So ultimately, I talked about last time, like how are you gonna go forward without him, right? So they've confirmed the voice actors are all returning. So that wasn't part of the announcement and Snake didn't talk in that in that trailer. So I'm like, Oh boy, wait and for that. You can drop and then right after it's like, no, all the voice actors are back.

Starting point is 02:25:54 Okay. It's not clear if they're being just paid for their existing role. This is the big, that's a huge question. Are we just paying you again? That's a huge question. Are we just paying you again, or are we actually rehiring, right? It feels like the Konami of current day, which is, again, we don't know what actual team studio its developers are working on this. It feels like-

Starting point is 02:26:18 It's an army made video games. So who knows what's- It feels like the undertaking to hire them to do this stuff again. One would be way more than they're capable of doing now. And two, we would have heard rumblings from the, you know, the Paul Eidings and the, and the David Hayders and like, like everybody out there, right, the Quentin, you would have heard rumblings of this if they were actually starting to record again,

Starting point is 02:26:49 but instead you got that one story, fake story, the other day, with the recording of the snake-eater song that was just for fun, and everyone went, oh shit, is that a real? Is it, no, no, no, no, no, that was just for fun. So, you know, the fact that there hasn't been any talk about that makes me think they're just gonna pay everybody to use the older recordings.

Starting point is 02:27:09 So, people are pointing out that in Japan, some of the voice actors in that game have died. So, you're not rehiring them. Interesting. Okay. Yeah, man. I, if I were to like bet, I'm just like, where does this current game day Konami have the infrastructure to go handle that level of, you know, like I feel like the do the homework of what already exists, use the files that are already there,

Starting point is 02:27:41 make our lives a whole lot easier. Yes, files were done in an age in which they should have a really high master recording. Should at least compare to silent hill. But again, we're talking about Konami, the people who threw away silent hill too. So who the fuck know? Yeah. No, yeah, will he doesn't understand NDA?

Starting point is 02:28:03 I, me, I know nothing about NDA. You're not just an NDA, it's right now. What are you talking about? It's amazing. It's amazing. It's so good. It's so good. I hate to give you spotlight, but that shit is so good.

Starting point is 02:28:23 Oh my God, the things I literally cannot say right now into this microphone, seconds before we start even, but anyways, oh wow, all right, yo. So you know how in the past, every time there was a Metal Gear project or something that involved voice actors coming into record lines, 100% of the time there would be some sort of something, you know, every time, every time, whether, even if it doesn't make it to Twitter, behind the scenes, there's rumblings.

Starting point is 02:29:01 Someone might talk to somebody somewhere who talks to someone else, and even if it doesn't make it up to the public forefront, we still hear things. If you know, you know, if you know, you know. If you don't hear anything, it makes it a little more like, huh, I wonder if anything's actually happening because we haven't heard anything.

Starting point is 02:29:21 Like Dan Southward fucking fucked it up. Why you years. I was in years before DMC five was announced. Oh, Jesus Christ, guys. We hear shit behind the scenes. And you know, when you don't, you're like, okay, well, what are they gonna do? That being said.

Starting point is 02:29:39 You didn't hear nothing, right? I heard nothing about that. I heard nothing. They're not, I don't feel like they're gonna record new dialogue. I feel like something somewhere would have reached somebody. Probably. Now, it's entirely possible that this is not the case and this is just the air tightest, tightest ship, right?

Starting point is 02:30:01 Where David Hader, who's tweeted out like, I feel sick to my stomach in response to like getting recast and you know, coming into do fan casts and coming into do fan recordings and like the guy that's constantly on it and loves the role and so on and so forth. I think we'll say. You know, like when he's recording for Smash Brothers, the words start to rumbling in the background, start to happen and things like that. But, you know, it's possible.

Starting point is 02:30:27 It's possible that it's just the tightest possible ship. But, David Hader has nothing to say. It's almost like he didn't have to say anything and he just signed a document and then got some money. That's almost like what it feels like. It feels like all he did was somebody, his lawyer or his agent sent him some of the sign It's a hey man. Here's some new residuals Dear God the confidence the typing the confidence with which air eight so I'm curious to see

Starting point is 02:30:58 If we know that not that like it's like all right same old lines. Probably gonna be like, there must be some changes somewhere, right? There's no way there's gonna be no changes whatsoever. They might not keep the fucking, go to dream about playing a canceled video game demo sequence that we used to have in the past.

Starting point is 02:31:28 But if they can somehow just like, I don't know, not fuck it up. Yeah, just don't fuck it up. Then sure. Hey, here's my criteria. Here's my criteria for success. Ready? It's a nice upscale, like put out screenshots. Screenshots look nice, right?

Starting point is 02:31:59 There's no content missing. Maybe there's some video game magazines that didn't make it in, you know, whatever, but there's nothing of note missing. Okay. And you fucking... That's like the baseline. I'll go, okay, thumbs up, fine. You want the second thumbs up? You want that second one? Put online play in a fucking...

Starting point is 02:32:21 subsistence. Woof. Put real online play in a fucking subsistence. Andf. Put real online play in a fucking subsistence and let me play Stain for Scores again. That's a tall order. That's a tall order. That is not within the spectrum of neo-conami. That's how you get that second thumb up.

Starting point is 02:32:40 Dude, look, I'm just like, I'm just like, neo-conami, neo Konami, whatever this is, we don't know anything about them. Right, something is happening inside that studio that they got, they started hiring talent, they have people that are gonna work on video games. If there was someone being outsourced, you know, this gig, I feel like we would have heard the company name.

Starting point is 02:33:04 I feel like we would have heard the name of the company they're outsourcing some of the work to is virtuous. It is internal development and virtuous, virtuous. Yeah. No kidding. Yeah. So when I hear a name like that, which obviously references virtuous mission, I go, is that that not just an internal studio given a name? No, it is an existing game studio. Oh, okay. It's virtuous games. Well, never mind then.

Starting point is 02:33:39 I did not know. It just happens to be. That's wild. Wildly on point. Yeah. Okay. Damn. They are a support studio.

Starting point is 02:33:50 So you go to their website, you see stuff for Demon's Souls, New World Crossfire, Horizon, and Crystal Protocol. Yeah, I was not familiar. Okay. They are a, hey, we need help with development studio. Please help us.

Starting point is 02:34:04 Now, they handle ports or remakes. They handle everything that you need help with. Okay. They are a studio of more staff. Yeah. I remember a couple of projects calling in similar style support teams. Okay, yeah, so at the end of the day, you know, MGS one through three preserved, four still trapped with implications that they might not. But yeah, it does. It would be nice if in the future, like the whole thing can be in one place, you know.

Starting point is 02:34:56 It is. So these games are old now. They're from the PS2 era, maybe a little bit in the PS3, right? It is difficult to overstate to people that have not played the Metal Gear games just how many of them are fucking great. Like all the little spin-off weird acid, acid's really good. Acids are weird fucking spin-off and it's really good. If you are a fan of what Metal Gear does when you play Metal Gear Solid 1 or when you play Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake, even though bad spin-offs will have stuff in there that you're like, ah, look at this,

Starting point is 02:35:38 this is goofy shit, I like it, right? I didn't play Peace Walker, but I played Pops. And while I was watching that game overstay, it's welcome. I was enjoying some of the dumb little lore things it was doing. I'm very, very fond of Ghost Bable, the Game Boy fucking advance color, rather a version of Metal Gear Solid that was made after the fact. There's always a little something there for you, even when it's a complete filler adventure.

Starting point is 02:36:14 Perhaps with the exception of Survive, which I can't, all I know about that really is the big twist ending to it. The big secret ending that that reveals how and why that, that, that world exists. But yeah, no, in most with very few exceptions, Metal Gear's all, they've all got something for you. Like I feel, I feel like there's a lot to be said for somebody who is 20 now. And obviously did not play some of these games at release because they weren't born. Right. And describing to them, like, did you know that like MGS 2 came out like,

Starting point is 02:37:01 like two days after 9-11, and had fucking 9-11 in it. I was just explaining that to someone like a day or two ago, the wild list of 2000 and 2001. Like people wanna talk about fucking predicting the fucking pandemic with fucking death stranding. Let's go back to MGS two had actual 9-11 in the game and they had to take it out because 9-11 happened. Chris Christ. Describing the future of the internet in at the end of Sunsla Liberty as

Starting point is 02:37:35 well, not just the 9-11 references. And then yeah, Kojima now apologizing for death stranding hitting too close to home. I need to stop you for a second. They're not 9-11 references. They were in the game before 9-11 happened. Excuse me. If anything 9-11 is a reference to it. Yes. I'm, yeah.

Starting point is 02:38:03 Oh. Write it down This one's gonna go this one's gonna stick mm-hmm. That's good That's good. That's good. All right. All right. Um, on the flip side, just out of curiosity, as we talk about the revisiting, um, excuse

Starting point is 02:38:38 me. Mm-hmm. Like, at the time, um, and Metal Gear was, it's comparison point was often like splinter cell. How would you think a splinter cell revisit would go? Fucking chaos theory's really good. Was that, that's what I have to say about splinter cell? Was that the fourth one?

Starting point is 02:39:03 It was the third one. Third one, third one. Yeah, that third one's really good and Siphon filter That's not split or so. Taser that guy need catch on fire. Okay. Okay Yeah, like like I remember people talking about whether or not they preferred MGS1 or Siphon filter and they'd get really intense and that argument looks like the stupidest discussion ever in games now because Siphon filter is like a fucking joke like like whatever whatever like metal gear because it's just so funny how like these are games like I don't know a ton about like Splinter Cell except for you know obviously the memes and seeing it from the outside

Starting point is 02:39:52 Okay, chaos chaos theory's really good. That's what I'm telling you. Right. That's what you need to know But like every Metal Gear game feels like like in terms of like how they age not only only do they age insanely well given the time they come from because they age poorly the second they come out right into then predicting the future in Yadiyah. They're also completely insane, batshit wild stories that take place in completely different settings that have very little overlap with each other. So like, I don't know that, you know, like, like, when I think about us, Blaine or Sal,

Starting point is 02:40:31 one or two, I think of something that's probably a very similar game. Whereas when I think about each of these entries in the mainline Metal Gear series, it's like, oh, yeah, no, like, you're going to jump into a completely different thing. If you're playing this for the first time, you're not gonna be able to go, oh, I played one and I'm good, I get it. Let me just jump forward to, you know, like, fan and pain and then I'll call it a day.

Starting point is 02:40:54 Each of those games is so wildly fucking insanely different from each other. Not just in what the plot is covering and doing in the setting, but like, what's,, like gameplay you're sneaking, but it's just, yeah, like I feel like they're, you're not gonna have that, like, you can't really gloss over the series that as easy as you grow. In its focus, Splinter Cell really wanted to do

Starting point is 02:41:18 like a very realistic sneaking simulator, rather than like a cartoony one, and it wanted to do Tom Clancy type of storyline rather than Whatever the fuck could Jima was doing so it was it was like kind of grounded and you know war on terror stuff and You know it seemed really appropriate for its time whereas MGS fucking swung for the fences and Was a game before it's time. Like five times in a row. And that's why we haven't stopped talking about it for 20 years.

Starting point is 02:41:56 Yeah. All right, there was a survival game called Towers of AXABBA. All right, there was a survival game called Towers of Agzaba. It was a lot of desert stuff and then some tree cutting. Then we saw the trailer for FF16 salvation. And then Alan Wake 2. Man, Alan Wake 2. Man, Alan Wake 2. Like, so this was, if you had, if you were playing controls DLC,

Starting point is 02:42:34 it's like the most obvious thing in the world, because controls DLC is dealing exclusively with Alan Wake. Yeah, that's, that's cool. I like, I like how these, these, these, though, the wake of verse or whatever, is coming together. I like the oops being integrated there. And big fan of the trailer starting with Sam Lake as a cop in the background, de-emphasized, like in shadow,

Starting point is 02:43:03 and just max pain voicing all over the beginning of that trailer. So is quantum break like directly tied? I'm gonna say no. Okay. Cause, cause, cause Max Payne is implied to be like a character that is implied to be like very similar to a character that Alan Wake wrote. And that really looks like Max Payne. Yeah, and for like, control deals with it control deals with Alan Wake's events very directly.

Starting point is 02:43:52 But I don't know of any I don't know of any touchy bits from a quantum person. Okay. Well, people are saying that Sam Lake's character from the Alain Wake 2 trailer is in quantum break. Okay. Are, well, well, well, well, remedy verse, remedy verse it is. The important thing is that Alain Wake looks very upset that he's been trapped in the nightmare for X amount of years.

Starting point is 02:44:29 And then Alan Wake is a really cool game and I really would like more of it, please. I wonder, I have to imagine that like, I'm not knowing like the full extent of how these things, these threads all connect and stuff. I'm kind of wondering if it's like, is this a franchise on a cork board where it's like threads are leading to like control too? They definitely, you know, stand by themselves, but there is connective tissue. Yeah, and then and then sway over here in 2030 is end game. Yeah, you know, yeah, okay. And if that was the case, it would be control too, but shit, it's gone. Well, whatever I wanted to say completely gone.

Starting point is 02:45:21 No problem. No, it's back. It's back. So Alan Wake came out in what I'm going to call the Twin Peaksification of video games where all of a sudden Alan Wake and Deadly P and a bunch of other games that seem to have been like, yeah, I just watched Twin Peaks over the weekend. It's crazy. It would be really interesting to me if Alan Wake 2 is the Twin Peaks season 3 effication of video games because- Firewalk with me? No, the third season. The

Starting point is 02:45:55 fucking weird one, the return, where it's just super aggressively fucking weird. I would like to see more of that. That's me. All right. I'm gonna piss myself. Can you just wait for a second? Do it. Do it now. No, I don't want to.

Starting point is 02:46:20 Do it. Do it. Do it. No, I'm gonna turn the camera off so I can piss. I'm gonna go, wait, I'm also gonna go to the bathroom. I'm not gonna just turn the camera off and piss. All right. Where were I?

Starting point is 02:46:38 Hey, so apologies to the folks who live viewers, that took that P-Bank was a little longer than I anticipated. I went over to check on the wife during the time I was going to pee and I found her like trapped in a pregnancy belly band and like unable to get up off the couch. She had dramatically underestimated her current roundness and needed help escaping from her or her belly supporter. Pregnancy's fun. Crisis averted, everything okay?

Starting point is 02:47:19 Crisis averted. Okay. Jesus. I got her permission to tell you all that before anybody Credits he's just never ending fun. It's fun. We Oh You know what else is fun never Fun woolly a sassence creed What I lied

Starting point is 02:47:50 You did lie um, I've come to a conclusion and um, I think I've I think every time I've said like That I've had franchise fatigue um, I think I think it's actually that I'm just done. I don't know that like anything, I don't know that anything could really get me to wanna play Assassin's Creed again. Franchise fatigue cannot be used to describe

Starting point is 02:48:25 Assassin's Creed. Because I watched that trailer. I think it's for Mirage. And I was staring at it. I'm like, this is indistinguishable from any random pick from like 10 years ago. But I think that was the point. I think the point with Mirage is return to the Middle East,

Starting point is 02:48:51 return to what we remember of the original setting, return to Altair. I'm bad at taking too many of those. But you know, and like, and like, I think they're trying to like, they're probably gonna play, like if I'm not mistaken, there was an interview where they showed the first picture of it, where they were like, yeah, you guys have been asking for it, and so we're finally doing it. We're going back to that.

Starting point is 02:49:15 No one has ever asked for that. No one. You know? It's not real. People have been asking for three things. Sorry, four things for the entirety of Assassin's Creed's lifestyle. Sorry, lifetime.

Starting point is 02:49:31 They want a modern day one. They want one in Japan. They want one in China and they want one in India. That's, that's, that's, that's, that's things. So the side-scroller adventures obviously, you know, like that, we were like's yeah, that's that's like so the side scroller Adventures obviously, you know like that. We were like oh is that gonna count and no that doesn't really count I would that I would I would raise my eyebrow and take a look and see what was going on with the If they went to Japan or China as a setting certainly

Starting point is 02:50:01 modern day Okay, but nobody here's the problem though wait. I just remembered. I used to think I wanted modern day, but then watch dogs came out. And I was like, never mind, I don't want it anymore. You know what? Okay. So I want to say it was sterling who talked about this like eight years ago. And they described that if far cry 4 had come out in a world in which we had eight less Assassin's Creed games, it could have had a shot a game of the year. But we did live in a game in a world that had 10 Assassin's Creed games. If you just went back and retroactively removed like every other Assassin's Creed game, all of them would be like, beloved.

Starting point is 02:50:50 Instead, every time one of them's pretty good, it's drowned in the fact that you played that game almost exactly as is one year ago. And the year before that. And the year before that. Mm-hmm. And the year before that. And the annualization. And watchdogs is like the tipping point for that because everybody had that exact thing happen to them.

Starting point is 02:51:14 Where you laid watchdogs and you're like, oh, this is literally Assassin's Creed in modern day. It's literally just another Assassin's Creed game but it's modern day. And I'm so fucking like I don't thank you for scratching the itch that I didn't even fucking know was there, but now it turns out I didn't want you to scratch it. I leave it alone. Look at watchdogs one and two. I don't know if they're good or bad. I genuinely don't know because I played them, and I was like, this is just the same fucking thing again.

Starting point is 02:51:50 Okay, you can't even tell. You reported in that Odyssey, Valhalla, and the other new one, whatever Egypt origin, yeah, Egypt Greece, the Vikings, though that the new version of things was like you were having fun with those, right? Like things were different. It was a different style trilogy.

Starting point is 02:52:14 Yeah, and origins was pretty good, but it was way, way, way too long to the point where I was already tired of it by the time the Greek one came out. And then the Greek one was even fucking longer. And then by the time the Greek one came out. And then the Greek one was even fucking longer. And then by the time the, this Viking one came out, I was exhausted of the whole fucking idea.

Starting point is 02:52:32 Mm-hmm. Like the games are so big, they're like three different games in one thing, but they come out every fucking year. It's like, I saw somebody say Pat is exaggerating how many Assassin's Creed games come out. I don't think I am. Because when Assassin's Creed games come out? I think I am. Because when Assassin's Creed origins came out, that was like four games too long.

Starting point is 02:52:50 Yeah. When I played Assassin's Creed Mediterranean Greek thing, I felt I was already playing Assassin's Creed origin six. So I had a moment some years ago when we were talking about it was after a black flag, and then we were talking about unity, and then I wanna say freedom's cry or something like that. And it was like, and I was like, oh yeah, that would be like Assassin's Creed like six

Starting point is 02:53:22 or seven, and then it turned out the game I was talking about was Assassin's Creed 12. Okay, I'm gonna just, I'm just gonna go down the, God damn list. I like, I had a moment where the, I thought I was talking about part seven and it turned out I was talking about part 12. And I went, oh Jesus.

Starting point is 02:53:40 Here we go, we're gonna go now. From 2007 to 2023 is 16 years Assassin's Creed one, Assassin's Creed two, Assassin's Creed brotherhood, which is Assassin's Creed three, Assassin's Creed Revelations four, Assassin's Creed three, which is five Assassin's Creed four, which is six Rogue which is seven unity which is eight syndicate, which is nine, Unity, which is eight, Syndicate, which is nine, Origins is 10, Odyssey is 11, Fucking Valhalla is 12,

Starting point is 02:54:13 Mirage is 13, and this list skipped over some games. Portable games are all missing from that, Side Scrolling games are all missing from that. So we're up to like 17, 18, 19 easy. Yeah. That is almost, that's like 1.3 a year. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:54:38 I like that's there because there was always the spin off the side, the bit, you know. I don't like it's more than one a year. It is way more than one a year. So that's it. I'm like, I had to, I watched the trailer and I was like, no, it's not, it's not fatigue. It's, it's like, I quit. I retire. I'm not, I don't need more bench time. I'm just, I think I'm just out. Um, the, you know, who knows what the future holds, right? You'd have to sway me over with something

Starting point is 02:55:08 that catches me way off guard. I had no idea how much I thought sailing was cool until I experienced the first version of it in three and then Black Flag, right? Because Black Flag perfected it. And now we're going bones by the way. No progress has been made. Zero zero happening ever on that nothing, nothing, no one, nothing, nothing. Except for the weird Singapore incentive,

Starting point is 02:55:35 nonsense structure or whatever. I have to imagine that there's a there's a timer on that before Singapore just soos the company. But yeah, I played, I played and liked the sailing in three. And then they, they perfected it in black flag. And I was like, taken completely out of the blue by how much I, I enjoyed that. And I didn't expect to. I think I'd have to be brought on something like that where I'm like, Oh, shit, I had no idea this was coming, but here we are. Oh, no.

Starting point is 02:56:05 And like, like I thought, Assassin's Creed Mirage was like a dumb remake of the first game. And they're like, no, it's a new one. And I'm like, boy, I'm further out than I thought I was. Looking at that, Assassin's Creed trailer. I'm like, wow, I don't even feel an emotion. I don't even feel disappointment. I'm feeling nothing. Wow.

Starting point is 02:56:32 It's kind of nuts because I feel as if like, they could have switched it back to Prince of Persia and like let Ascree rest for a minute. And you know what I mean? And they could have just dropped a couple pop games and in some kind of Neutrilo G or whatever and then run the clock out on that and then eventually they go like hey look We're returning and everyone would be like okay, all right, maybe you know, but instead they went nah fuck it Keep it going, you know, I also this time we're gonna turn it around

Starting point is 02:57:02 Before we move too far away, I also wanna point out that all the modern Firecrack games are also Assassin's Creed games, and so is Watch Dogs 1 and 2. They're all the same fucking... They're all the same game. In Formula. We saw it made the same game like 30 times in the past 15 years. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:57:27 And I suppose Watch Dogs was the attempt to create a new franchise after Ascrede to like, to move into, right? Like to expand the concept. Because Far Cry is still first person and ultimately that has its own thing. But Watch Dogs could have been a weird torch pass of sorts. But I should point out I forgot something. Are you familiar with the racing game, the crew? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You also need to climb towers in the game to unlock the map. Okay. I just I hear I just like every time I think about the crew I think about

Starting point is 02:58:07 Lana yelling at me. Yeah. Like that's all I can. All right. Um yeah just just wow if like can't can't care can't and it sucks because I used to be proud. I used to be like, I used to be vicariously proud that I lived in the city that invented Assassin's Creed because wow, what a slam dunk. I was a huge fan. I was super hype on it. I talked about it a lot.

Starting point is 02:58:43 Yeah. I was like theory crafting what the next game where they're gonna go I was like man remember oh shit the comics went into here's a template that was like gonna be the dead dead across it was David or Daniel cross or whatever was like the anti-Ezio or anyway, whatever. All right. So yeah, no, I remember when you played as a sperm. I remember. Yeah. That was cool. Um, I thought, I thought that I just needed some time on the bench away from Ascrede, but it turns out that was a mirage. I don't think I'm ever, I don't know if I'm ever coming back. No, no, no, it's gone.

Starting point is 02:59:36 Okay. It's, it's, it says a lot that like two people like you and I who were like way in, it wouldn't play a bunch of those games. They announced Assassin's Creed Japan and we're like, yeah, okay, fine. Like if that had happened 10 years ago, we would have shit. Did they announce that? Yeah, that got announced. That's real. Okay. Do you remember that? Wait, that's, yeah, that's my fucking point. Yeah, perfect.

Starting point is 03:00:06 Remember that wait that's yeah, that's my fucking point. Yeah, perfect man Well anyway, um They got my attention when I saw May from night in the woods show up and I was like, what? Oh, and then it was a different. It's not at all. No, it was just a cat But that cat had me space but they got by attention though. They knew what they're doing. You see that cat and you're like, what the fuck would you up to? Right? Like, I want to say, I want to say, I saw Coronaco somewhere. I was like, what are you up to over there? I need, we need to go back for a second. Why? I listed off the, the fucking what, 13 assassin's Creed games. Yeah.

Starting point is 03:00:46 Okay, here's four compilations. Ezio, anthology, heritage, and Americas. Here's one, two, three, four, five, six remasters, liberation, Ezio, Rogue, three, three liberation, rebels. And here's the spin-offs. Mobile, Altieros Chronicles, Twitter, assassination experience, Assassin's Creed II mobile,

Starting point is 03:01:09 Assassin's Creed Bloodlines, Assassin's Creed II Discovery, Assassin's Creed II multiplayer, Project Legacy, Brotherhood, Revelations, multiplayer, Rearm, these are all mobile, Recollection, three Liberation, three mobile, Pirates,

Starting point is 03:01:24 Memories, Chronicles, China, India, Russia, identity, Crimson sunset, the port update, black flag update, movie update, Arnors Chronicles, the tower rebellion, stop, stop, you can stop. You can stop. You can, you can, you we there are like 40 guys fucking entries on this list God Yeah, there's animated film. There's the fucking the comics Do I remember when I said I was working next to a dude who was the world's biggest dynasty

Starting point is 03:02:06 warriors fan and he's like, I love him. I play them all. They're the best. And I was like, all of them. And he's like, all of them. And we had nothing better to do because it was post lunch, pre five o'clock. So I pulled up that wiki list and I went dynasty warriors one. And he's like, yep, awesome.

Starting point is 03:02:27 Two. Oh, yeah. Three. Mm-hmm. And we just went and every single one of them. And then we hit the break point and then we switched over to when they added the extra word in the title Legends Legends one where the numbers just restarted somewhere in the middle of it And I was like, but Wait, what and it was like yeah, and I just I took it took the rest of that day

Starting point is 03:03:07 And it was like, yeah. And it took the rest of that day until we, we fucking signed out. And like, I couldn't believe how long that list was because I had only, I feel like I had only been hearing about them for, you know, I had full, like maybe like three or four, like big ones that everyone loved. And it turned out that they were more, there are more of them than there were maddened games. turned out that they were more, there are more of them than there were madden games. Yeah, I, I, I just scrolled down far enough down this list. You know, there's 13 different Assassin's Creed board games. Yeah, sure, man. Yeah. Yeah, why not?

Starting point is 03:03:36 There's also a podcast. You should check it out. Yeah. Oh, anyways, Oh, anyways, uh, Revenant Hill is the next game, um, from the Night in the Woods folks. And it seems like this one is skeleton in it. I say in a skeleton. There's humans actually this time around.

Starting point is 03:03:58 Um, so that's cool. Uh, I like Night in the Woods and, uh, I'm down for more of that. You know, we had a little fucking hippie ass adventure with some fucking hot topic animals. There was cringing, there was music. Yeah. Granboo flannis, Granboo flant, grue, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, one more time. Gran Blue fantasy relink. Had a new trailer and I'm like, yeah, just, just fucking, just, just released the fucking game already. Like like nah, I don't want to like like I just

Starting point is 03:04:48 Okay, we know we know yes the action the stuff the combos their cool combos. There's Vassaraga. Oh shit It's grand Dear God, just his sidekick blue. Nope. Not blue. We've been over this. It's actually Jita Who's? No, no, yep. No, no, I mean the other the girl. Oh, okay, but but Jita is these blue. Her name is blue. No, but Jita is named Jita because her syllables are saying Granbrue Fantasi, Ftaji, Jita. Yeah. So yeah, they just, we get it. So... Let's see how good a game that platinum got kicked off of can be, I bet it'll be fine actually. They scraped the logos.

Starting point is 03:05:50 They got that fucking metal thing that you take to the bottom of it. As it burns the sleep of the logo off, get out of here. Get off. Oh man, boy, power washing porn. Speaking of, fucking power wash simulator coming to 40k, this was not part of the Sony thing.

Starting point is 03:06:12 Sure, that was part of a different thing. Yeah, that's a brilliant game concept really. Just you can power wash any setting anywhere for any reason. And tons of games are super down to have an advertisement for their product, be power washed. It's super good idea. Great, great. All the way to the bank, those guys, good stuff. Su-Fider 6 trailer dropped. And... It had Street Fighter 6 stuff in it. It sure did. Um, I haven't, I haven't read the latest issues, but I've been getting the cliff notes of how, uh, Ken, uh, going further down the crypto nightmare is now also the reason why

Starting point is 03:06:52 Luke's face is scarred. Just shut up. What? Ken is the one who scarred Luke. Like, as whole fall in Hobo Ken is actually just Wiling out right now and Mel kind of hates him Um, the rules. He's losing control. It's kind of it's it's exactly what everyone thought and then some The marriage might not be dissolved, but dear God dear God is he losing himself man

Starting point is 03:07:24 It's crazy Uh, oh he was he was set man. It's crazy. Oh, he was he was set up. Oh, no. Oh, no. He was set up. It was all a set up. Yeah. And JP's name keeps changing too. Like, they might not stand for Johan Petrovich. JP's whispering about apes in his fucking ear. Oh shit. Oh, God.

Starting point is 03:07:44 You see the front of the comic where like Luke and Reur are like holding hands and cans in the far background looking super pissed about it. It's super funny. I mean, look, man, when, when you're, you know, galley vanting around the world, becoming a martial artist while the master's foundation is doing its business and then you come and take over. Turns out you might not know what the fuck you're doing. Turns out you were missing out on that expertise, you know?

Starting point is 03:08:19 Like, I think the argument between Ken and Ryu has always been, are you stronger if you have something to protect or are you stronger if you don't? And the answer is, you're stronger if you learn how to do your fucking job. So like I think that like by sheer omission of data, we've always kind of thought of the Masters Foundation

Starting point is 03:08:40 as untouchably successful. And it was, you know, because until can got a yeah, because right now, what do we know about the Garcia concern? They're great. They're killing it. Robert Garcia's company is doing wonderful. The Howard connection up to some crimes, no good had to hide a couple of bodies,

Starting point is 03:09:01 including that of the CEO. It's not great. It's not a lot of money though. Right. The mission was I bought, including that of the CEO. It's not great. A lot of money though. Right. The mission was I bought you kind of killed the world. Can't, can't, can't lose money. No matter what it does, somehow, please rich. Conversely, G corp also not great.

Starting point is 03:09:21 Right. You know, all across the board, you know, the overall the tech in companies have been like, oh, those guys are kind of, yeah, they're just going to kill everybody. So they're, they're, you know, stonks are down on them. But we thought the Masters Foundation and the Garcia concern at the very least were like, oh, well, you know, here these these two companies are on the up and up turns out All trash, you know, so we have to just wait to find out what Robert fucks up in the near future You know, maybe he'll buy Twitter. I don't know, but as it stands Yeah, no Wayne Tech is Wayne Tech has been through its fair share of foibles as has stark industries.

Starting point is 03:10:10 This is true. Speed wagging is untouching. The State Tech Foundation is able to keep an immense amount of wealth up for like 100 years despite constantly dealing with magic ghosts. dealing with magic ghosts. Like, what do you mean were 15% of the company's profits go to fighting? Is this fucking ghosts? Are these even real?

Starting point is 03:10:37 I mean, at least 1% of that is just keeping the lights on shining on the fucking corpse of a vampire that cannot be allowed back into sunlight. Yeah. Um, but yeah, yeah, the Masters Foundation tough times, tough times. I just can't even explain how tickled I am that can ran the company into the ground instantly. I mean, it wasn't instantly because there was a time jump, but, but effectively, effectively instantly. Like, yeah, no, for sure.

Starting point is 03:11:24 You know, like the moment we had to peer past Third Strike to see what was going on, you know. Like, Third Strike doesn't mention that the company is on the way out. No, it just mentions that Mel punches Ken in the balls and Ken teaches Sean. And that's it. What do you mean Ken got rid of the verification badge?

Starting point is 03:11:46 Why would he? Also in the artwork for like story mode on the main menu there, like he also just looks like a little Gremlin, like he's kind of in this weird pose where his head is a little too big and his fist is almost a little too small and it's a pose for the model and everyone looks everyone else looks more or less fine But can on that screen is kind of just like And he's looking up like And it's just it's weird. I don't know man. I don't know I don't know if Ken can be saved at this point I am so in love with like decades actual decades of Reu why don't you buy some shoes you fucking loser come on. I'm rich of review, why don't you buy some shoes you fucking loser? Come on, I'm rich. Leading into I have destroyed my company. I am on the run. And reuse just hanging out next to his waterfall. You got a little coat. Allow me to reiterate and underline. I have not read issues two or three of the comic.

Starting point is 03:12:49 I have not read issues two or three of the comic. I am simply talking about the panels that were tweeted in our direction About the funny random shit that we saw and talking bullshit and having a laugh about that I have no actual idea the contents of issues two and three. I'm sorry if that offends you. I have no idea. Okay. Are we cool? all right choose two and three. I'm sorry if that offends you. I have no idea. Okay. Are we cool? All right. We saw a trailer for Ultros, which is the Metroidvania game that was super bright and like guacamole kind of color. That's really bad because all I could think about was that goddamn octopus. I could think about was that goddamn octopus. Yeah, that's a good, that's, that makes sense. Singing opera, fucking around, you know? Yeah, it was cool, it was cool. But no, this looks great.

Starting point is 03:13:34 It looks really just like I appreciate just an acid trippy kind of color. And don't know much else about it, but the visuals have me interested. Coming out PS4, PS5 PC, Tower of Fantasy is the mobile game that then, yeah, they showed off the console port of that. God, I feel like 13 set of nos is going to get a mobile port before it hits PC. Oh, I will. Don set of those is going to get a mobile port before it's PC. Oh, I will.

Starting point is 03:14:05 Don't worry about that. Yeah. I mean, a shitty mobile port too. It will, it will be bad. Five nights at Freddy's help wanted to. Sure. The PSVR 2 section in general, actually, as we go over it, they kind of just, you know, went through a bunch of stuff. And I think I kind of realized as we're going through. They kind of just, you know, went through a bunch of stuff and I think I kind

Starting point is 03:14:27 of realized as we're going through them, like, yeah, I guess the right way to sell VR is to just show a bunch of FPS's, but like, you know, it's going to, like the same novelty that someone who hasn't tried VR yet is going to get sold on is also like I'm infinitely interested in anything more going on. Oh, yeah. When I was watching that, I'm like, a man, it really makes me want to get VR by showing me the same three or four games that I didn't buy yet because I don't care. And look, um, uh,, sign apps looked pretty stylish, right? That was the one that was like very dark with bright, highlight colors and had a little bit of like super

Starting point is 03:15:15 hot-ish things going on. It seemed like a very pretty sort of thing, a very stylish version of the VR FPS that we're going to be getting over and over and over again. But yeah, man. Yeah, it's just kinda like, okay. Yep, VR2, come buy this again. Why?

Starting point is 03:15:37 It's the same thing again. Well, maybe not then. Hey, Willie, I ain't shut up. I have something new for you to buy a completely new product from PlayStation that'll blow your fucking socks off Let's go that's right a fucking dual sense with the screen in it that you can only play them up Play your games by remote What oh my five? Okay, hold on hold on because that's the big that's the big finale, right? That's that's what I've been waiting all day. I know I know I know fine. They showed off RE4 VR

Starting point is 03:16:11 You got the parries in there. That's cool. I'm gonna yeah no marathon marathon showed up and marathon the trailer for that looked really cool and visually interesting I don't know enough about Marathon Durandal, but I know that like back in the day, it was a doom like and then it was kind of a pure like similar in style, but it was always like, there was like a little more complicated to do. I think is what's Don't worry, well, I got you on this. I watched Mandalore's videos on Marathon. Oh, I know all about it. Okay. They are like Doom likes, but they're very complex level layouts.

Starting point is 03:16:50 Right. And then an objectives word would get a little more complex as well. And then a really crazy piece of together story. And so the trailer for this is like a bright cool setting, cool music stuff's going on. And it's like, huh, they're going back to Dorent, uh, marathon, really. Yeah, that's crazy. And like, okay, post destiny, hey, bungee, you know, post Halo, they're going to actually resurrect an old franchise and just walk right into what has since been confirmed to be an escape from Tarkov style live service loot extraction shooter. Hey, I want to describe what happened on my stream.

Starting point is 03:17:29 It came up and I'm like, Bungie, but Bungie fucking sucks now. And I don't trust them to make anything worth shit. Boo Pat, you're a hater, I love marathon. Hey guys, it's a fucking escape from Tarkov clone and we'll not have a single player mode. No, I'm dying. That like, hey, guess what? Yeah, bungee fucking sucks now and won't make the thing you want. That's that again, we are reminded of just at least do, well, they did port Durandola while ago, I guess, but the whole thing where you offer, you offer the condolence, you know, in their time of, in their time of need, you offer an egg

Starting point is 03:18:12 to just say, Hey, Hey, here's the old one. Here's your metal gear. Just in case you hate the new thing. Yeah. Um, yeah. So that's rough because people like well, Bunchies good at making multiple other games. They made those good halo games. I'm like, yeah, they also made Destiny 2's PVP. So fucking, and they're making that right now. So enjoy that mentality. Conceptually that trailer looked fucking sick, you know? Yeah, totally. It's just very cool.

Starting point is 03:18:40 If that was going to become like, hey, we're gonna do to marathon what, you know, doom did to doom or anything, you know, classic, got rebooted as, but, uh, yeah, yeah, rip. I can't, I use this very specific example that will only matter to be, we will have played destiny, but like the same people who allowed one-eyed mask to exist uncontested in a multiplayer game for years are making a new multiplayer only game. So get, get ready for that. Yeah.

Starting point is 03:19:20 Um, anyway, and then yeah, we saw Beat Saber, and then we saw that testini, and then we saw Concord. Dragon's Dogma. Fucking back from the dead. Dragon's Dogma tuned the dead. Confirmed. Announce that they were making two a while ago. It was a big deal. It was very similar to the Wii Do It. All they had was a logo though. Well, when my mistake, I forgot the logo,

Starting point is 03:19:53 that's what's interesting about Dragon's Dogma 2 being shown off is that boy, this astonishingly looks like Dragon's Dogma but finished. Oh, really? Is it that kind of thing? Hey, remember those lion guys that got cut from Dragon's dogma one? Here they are.

Starting point is 03:20:14 You know, and so on and so forth. Guys, didn't play Dragon's dogma one, didn't play darker isn't T-shirt reveal moment, not super present for my brain. It's not a thing I think about. Sorry. Didn't really really does look like the sequel is just we finished the first game. Cool. But it's a new game. I mean, considering how much praise you were given, darker isn't back then, like assuming this is like, and that was just an expansion right? It was like a small

Starting point is 03:20:45 Darker is in was like a like a capcom style re-release that had more stuff on it So taking that momentum and going into like a full new thing Yeah, probably very promising that's dope. I hope they put the classes in the orphan dragons dogma online Which are really cool actually and that game super cool and never came out here and never well online, which are really cool actually, and that game's super cool and never came out here and never well. Yeah, and then we got to see the PlayStation cube and the PlayStation earbuds, and immediately, I went, why would you just announce a lag controller straight to my face? What is the point of this? What could possibly be like, okay, so step one, you take a fucking guess at the life of the batteries.

Starting point is 03:21:31 On, you know. It's two and a half hours. I still have a half hours. I thought it was four. I thought I heard four, but that's amazing. I heard four, but that's amazing. I'm gonna go, people are saying four, people are saying three. I heard four hours. Okay, whatever.

Starting point is 03:21:55 I'm holding up a DualSense controller. Hey, hey, it's a fun controller, I like it. It feels comfortable in my hands. You know what, is the worst part about this controller? It's durability. I Have to replace these Deep-ad stops working sucks gets too bad shoulder buttons fuck up fuck up every six months Sucks right. Oh, you know, it would be great. You know, be sick if Replacing that also included the cost of a fucking

Starting point is 03:22:24 if replacing that also included the cost of a fucking screen. So there's that first of all, right, instead of perfecting the the controller durability, we're going to actually make it worse. There's that. And then there's the simple thing that is, yeah, the PlayStation streaming feature that I've used is fucking garbage. And it's an awful feature. When I was talking about it, I was talking about it comparing it to the likes of like Stadia and Luna

Starting point is 03:22:58 because the cloud service lag input feedback you get on those systems is super comparable to the lag that I get at home, streaming from one Sony console to another pressing jump, right? Like it felt that bad. It's a super notable lag setup. And I'm like going wired for fucking Christ sake, right? So, um, So selling a feature around this without announcing an overhaul to that system is baffling to me.

Starting point is 03:23:30 Well, the reason why that's a problem is because the PlayStation's 5's network card is shit. So when it's outputting data, it can't output at high speeds. Sure. Yeah, go ahead. I had friends like I was taught we were laughing about it like oh my God they're going after the switch I think that's what Reggie said They're going after the switch right and my friends like all the fucking PS5 switch that looks so bad like that is not the PS5 switch I can leave my house my switch. That is it's a shittier PS5 Wii U game pad P.S. 5 Wii U gamepad. So, no, because then I, after Reggie said it's the switch and I said no, and then some people came over and saying it's the Wii U gamepad and I think they were echoing what you were saying. That's probably why a bunch of people showed up going, it's the Wii U, it's the

Starting point is 03:24:17 Wii U. No, it's not the Wii U, because the Wii U tablet at the very least was a fifth screen or a rather fifth rather it was a second screen that could be different and asymmetrical from the screen in front of you. So you could give the tablet to somebody to play a role in a game that was different from what was happening on the screen. You're not doing that here.

Starting point is 03:24:37 The reason why I said that is because the Wii U gamepad, you could play some games on it like within your house, right? But it works pretty well because it had some kind of dedicated, like, video streaming chip. Like, that part of the Wii U gamepad was not bad, right? The part where I could move around my house with it. Yeah. That's the going to be the worst part of the Sony one, is that it's going to just perform, like, shit. Worthless, worthless.

Starting point is 03:25:06 Like there's no announcement to an overhaul or anything about their streaming service, uh, home streaming service whatsoever. And I hold my finger up every time because I have to say, and I have to remind everybody, Parsec exists, and I use it every day. And there is a good version of this that we can look to. So it's not like fuck this entire concept, it can never be good, right?

Starting point is 03:25:37 The moment someone paying attention decides to deliver something comparable to Parsec, the product will be good. This is, I will always underline it. Be it cloud, be it home streaming, whatever the fuck you do. If you deliver something that is involving or delivering the same type of way Parsec is doing it, it'll be fine.

Starting point is 03:25:55 But until you confirm that, it's worthless. It's complete shit. I need to give a shout out to one Lanceman Donald smart person inventor of the blood porn 60 FPS patch at at man fight dragon who summed up this announcement perfectly perfectly. He posted a photo of this abomination with the text cool new innovation fresh from the fucking idiot factory. Ben, yeah. The absolute stupidest fucking thing I've seen in a long time. Apologies to anybody that thought they were getting

Starting point is 03:26:39 a new Vita slash PSP slash Sony was re-entering the handheld market moment, you know, it's so funny because I'm looking at this thing. This is where those Vita or PSP SQL rumors were coming from. Somebody saw this fucking. And wow, it's like a hot. And steam deck is out now, right? So yeah, yeah, it's just not even not fucking even

Starting point is 03:27:11 Someone in the chat just asked of the perfect question would it still be stupid if it only cost $99 Dude, that's what the controller costs Shit This thing's gonna cost like $160. It's like just project your mind, astral project yourself into the future. Jump inside the body of you playing a game and then hitting that R button when the resistance goes up like it does for a returnal

Starting point is 03:27:43 and then realizing that your our button broke. And it's attached to the fucking screen and the same problem that I had with a bunch of dual senses is happening here too, except now it's the whole fucking thing. Like that, oh, that, oh, no. Grommit or whatever the fuck it is that makes the trigger go snap on one of these things last year I've never had a controller trigger snap ever in any other thing. I love these things. They're my favorite controller

Starting point is 03:28:15 They make my hands the most comfortable They break! Why would you sell people one that had a screen in it? This thing's gonna come out of like fucking $200 and you're gonna be like, why won't I just spend $50 more and get a full switch? I, you know, when they announced that new fucking dual sets and you're just like, just make it durable, guys, You have the best controller right now. Just make it durable. And nope. So I got to go talk about the fucking Victrix, the BFG. I got to go talk, you know, I still still got to keep talking elsewhere, because you're just like, well, who's going to, you know, come to love this controller and then,

Starting point is 03:29:00 you know, how many of you have to buy it, replace it and so on. And back in the day, I didn't fucking, I mean, at least now I can like, business expense that shit and it's not that bad. Back in the day, I was like, I can't fucking, like, I buy a game or a controller, which one I'm like, okay, fuck this. I'm just gonna get the game and I'll deal with the wobbly stick, you know. Yeah. All right. Anyways, hey, look, fucking miles versus parts Peter coming soon. Um, yeah, that was a great Spider-Man trailer. Fantastic. It looks cool. I like the part where I got to play as both Spider-Man's. I like that too. Well, it's a tricky gross Spider-Man and the other is cool Spider-Man. I really hope that the Taskmaster battles are a set up preview slash like teaser for what the actual Miles versus Peter battle will look like.

Starting point is 03:29:54 I hope that it'll be taking place over the map on the overworld and it'll be building to building insane fucking sick shit. building to building insane fucking sick shit. And then yes, if shockers in the game, of course, they need to do the right thing. So he sounds like like the animated Spidey. Yuri, Yuri, what he's getting mad. He's putting his like, oh, like he's doing the little ground inspiration from that shit. I'll chase you to the end of the earth. Okay, so I'm going to tell you right now what I think that

Starting point is 03:30:29 battle is going to be. First of all, that's going to be the climax of the game. Maybe not the end, but it's going to be cool. I thought so too. I called it out real early in the trailer and then the amount of setup for it was like, oh, no, that's going to be act to. Okay, sure. Here's how I think it's gonna work.

Starting point is 03:30:46 You're gonna play as Peter first, and you're gonna beat on Miles, super hard, and then you're the fucking button prompt that says switch to Miles is gonna come up with the square prompt, and then you are gonna just switch to Miles and finish off the boss fight in reverse against Pete. That'd be fucking hot.

Starting point is 03:31:06 Absolutely. I'm down with that. I'm also guessing that the Venom Stings will be the thing that lets him get the upper a hand. Oh, yeah, like, I mean, I'm not the biggest Spider-Man fan, but isn't like Miles with electricity, like, like a fucking hard counter to symbiote shit? Yeah, no.

Starting point is 03:31:24 Miles, like, in terms of just his actual, and it like latent inheritabilities, has way more shit than Peter did, and we'll be able to, in theory, fuck up the symbiote. I wonder what the naming convention will be if they actually introduce Venom, you know? I think Venom is like a absolute, like, come on. Seems like it has to happen, right?

Starting point is 03:31:50 And that's gonna be the next villain. So we've got Craven set up. You've got teasing of Goblin and what were we watching? Lizard, you know? So you gotta get Venom coming in for your climax most likely as the STs. And then like maybe they can also do the whole like let's grab a fucking jobber for yetable one

Starting point is 03:32:17 and give them the glow up, you know, like the spot. Everyone's calling for the wall. So that could be a thing. It would be a good time to mourb. But I hope it would be a great time to mourb. It would be a good time. It'd be a great time to mourb. But like, I think we can get one of those dealisters in there and give them the glow up, you know. But yeah, man, uh, fucking, what do you think? I'm excited about Spider-Man. Oh, I don't want it. It can be, but it's then you're dead now. You're doing the same mistake that's so they made with the movies, right? Then

Starting point is 03:32:56 you're running into the exact same mistake as fucking Toby three, where you're like, oh, just shove it all in there. Everyone's been waiting for it. Give them what they want. Show them all the stuff. No, man, we don't even know what venom is gonna look like much less. Give it a fucking second, Jesus. If they did, it would be the worst rust shit ever.

Starting point is 03:33:18 You know, let Craven have some time, you know, let fucking lizard have them have his time. And then if you're gonna do a venom thing, it ties in because we've introduced the symbiote and angry Peter. So like fine, but you can't go fucking Cassidy right away, man. Okay, you know what I can see?

Starting point is 03:33:38 I can see Cassidy being in the game. Yeah, as a character behind bars, sure. Yeah, yeah, easy. You can cut to him being a person. No problem with that. But this, this fucking, give me it all now. Make eight villains appear in the same game. Shit. They people need to fucking recognize already how bad of an idea that is. There has to be at least six villains. There were six. Oh, God. like you cannot get through a Spider-Man game that's of this scale without a sinister six equivalent. Um, yeah, I'm not do not get Paul in the game.

Starting point is 03:34:17 Fuck that. Oh, looks good. Anyways, that's pretty much it. There's those earbuds, but like, who gives a shit? Yeah, both of our reactions are the two emotions you could have felt. All right, let's take some letters. Hey, if you want to send in a letter, send it to castle super beast of mail at gmail.com. That's castle super beast of mail at gmail.com. Maybe spider man, the cat will jump in at the at the final battle. Spider me out or whatever his name is. And fucking be the one that puts the miles

Starting point is 03:35:08 over the edge, you know. We got one coming in from Jeremy who says, Hey, down right, Willie and 720 Pat. So, perfect meta is impossible, but should we prioritize a fun one instead? I was a little late to jump off Overwatch 2. All of Blizzard's bullshit aside, they had a chat while back and stuck with me. In the chat, they were discussing the state of the meta and the general feeling was that the game is better when it's in a place where Reinhart is in the meta. This player sentiment was generally in line with the sentiment with the statement and Reinhart usually made matches more fun This had me thinking should there be a priority to make characters that are fun to play as and against more relevant Should the more annoying oppressive characters be adjusted to retain players like Morgan in late Marvel 3

Starting point is 03:36:01 I do understand fun as subjective, but what are your thoughts on this? in late Marvel 3. I do understand fun is subjective, but what are your thoughts on this? Interesting question. I'm gonna very quickly fly through this because I have too much to say. Somebody asked me a variation of this question on my bolt gun stream,

Starting point is 03:36:15 and I went on for almost an hour and a half on the subject, including pulling up, like I stopped the stream to go over to Core A Gaming's video on why buffs are better than nerfs. Yeah, that's a good pull. Like, and went on and on and on. And most of that discussion in that time, because I was playing a shooter, was about Destiny,

Starting point is 03:36:37 but like, your game being fun is the most important thing, not balance. The best example, I think Gerald has ever made in any of his videos, is that Street Fighter 1 is perfectly balanced. Yeah, yeah. You guys are forced to pick the same character. And Street Fighter 1 fucking sucks ass and is a piece of shit. Like fun, fun games with fun characters are more fun than games with perfect balance.

Starting point is 03:37:09 Every game I can think of that has ever chased the the five five utopia or perfect balance has nerfed their game into shit. So the other thing about when it comes to annoying oppressive characters and such, right? Like there's a way to handle that. Um, and a lot of the time, like, I'm, of course, going to fighting games with this, but like, I think about how, um, there's characters that can be fun to fight against and lose against and, and have a system where the crowd and you are rooting for them. When you fight Phoenix Wright in Marvel 3,

Starting point is 03:37:45 you're like, oh, I'm gonna beat him, but I'm mad that he didn't get into turnabout mode, right? That's an ideal type of thing that is like, that's a cool feeling to have all around the board. Everyone loves that idea. Somebody, a guy who beat me up during the beta of R.A. and the chat points out that guy all versus re you is not the five five balance.

Starting point is 03:38:08 You. Right. Yeah. It's not you. Is that core street fighter? Yeah. Is that really boring to watch as a final over and over again? Yeah.

Starting point is 03:38:23 It sure is. And that that person's name is a barare for anyone who knows the term might. That's interesting, right? Like wake up pressing wild buttons to steal a turn. The idea of exactly that, like the game where it is, it is not as fun to watch, but it is more balanced. It's fair. It's fair.

Starting point is 03:38:47 But it's the death knell of the game, unfortunately. It's just gonna be like that's not, people are not gonna stick around for that. What you kind of need to do and should do in a lot of cases, and most games that aim to like strive to hit this is offer the variety, right? You offer characters that have little moments of that. And you wanna show off stuff where essentially people who play fighting games and are like,

Starting point is 03:39:17 you know, I wanna see what kind of character to play as. People look for different things. Some people will see a grappler grab you and fuck you up in your life bar melts, and they'll go, ooh, right? But someone else will see, like in the project Elf footage, a moment where a character rewinds time uncrosses up behind you, and you're like, wait, he hit him on Whitsa.

Starting point is 03:39:38 Oh, that's dirty. And everyone goes, oh my god, that's so sick. And then it's like, that looked unfair, but the person who's looking for that type of like dirty mix is gonna want that style of gameplay, you know. People will do shit like that and then go like, all right, well, because you can do that, you can do a little less damage, yadda yadda,

Starting point is 03:39:56 but you wanna always prioritize people having fun playing and watching it, always, always, always. Any games that, yeah, that are more even handed and then like competitively people are playing it and winning money and that's all there. Like those games are not gonna last. There's no, there's the spectacle part does matter. And I would say that you're talking about Corée

Starting point is 03:40:23 with that. Another fantastic example of exactly this subject was covered by Leon Massey, who put out a video called A Tale of Two Top Tears. That was talking about the difference between metanite and what metanite did to brawl versus what Fox did to melee. And then the exact nature of how both of those characters have their busted in their games, but the way that they're busted led to metanite killing off brawl while melee continued to be the persistent love it or hate it. It will not die people fucking stand by this thing game that it is today because the nature of how

Starting point is 03:41:07 Fox played and the tools that he had and the things people were doing with it brought up the game around him competitively and met a night just shoved it down squashed it and made it so that there was nothing else to do if you were not already met a night. The discussion about should I ban this character or not, already shows you're off on the wrong foot, you know? So the only time that I think characters should be like aggressively nerfed is when they're shutting down the game around them, is when the character is so far out ahead that they are ruining your ability to enjoy the rest of the cast. Right? That's pretty rare. Even third strike, a game that is fucked up, it that bouts down.

Starting point is 03:41:49 It's crazy. It's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. And you do not shut down your ability to play with you. They're better. They're way better. They're way better.

Starting point is 03:41:59 But you can still fucking play a good review and have fun. Yeah. I remember when I didn't know anything and I loved third strike early on. And I remember saying to somebody who was really good at third strike, I was like, yeah, man, that game, it looks so beautiful. The style is so cool. The characters are great. It's so fun to play. And it's just really like one of

Starting point is 03:42:20 it's just it's the street fighter game that got the balance. And like one of it's just it's the Street Fighter game that got the balance and And the fucking laughter I was so naive You can feel how bad Street Fighter 3 Balance is from a casual level. That's that's how fucking far apart. Oh god from that just you go Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh the fuck out and you know and would even know. Um, and then of course, uh, so yeah, you have that idea where melee lived this long because of the way Fox was dominating as

Starting point is 03:43:20 opposed to the meta night version of it. And then you can look at CVS to and see how that scene competitively dried up until role canceling was discovered. And this insane busted bug that lets every character have some invincibility on all of their moves was what brought everyone back to the table and go, oh, wait, you can do what? Ooh, that's fucking disgusting. I want to play. This idea kind of killed Warframe for me and a lot of people, because Warframe was defined by the bullet jump, which was a bug. It was the weird throw your weapon bug

Starting point is 03:43:58 that let you jump super far, and they included it into the game, and now everyone's mobility was super high. And every character that came out was more busted than last one, and at some point, they decided, well, we don't want characters and Warframe to get too powerful. So they'd announce like a feature,

Starting point is 03:44:15 going, hey, look, you can feed a frame to the monster, and the monster will give you their ability, and it's not an ability your frame could normally have, right? And then they fucking just gutted every single fucking thing you could get for it, to the point that I was talking a brosim about it, and he was convinced, I think this is what happened, but people were convinced that the devs were looking at people's guides on what to get. Oh shit. And it's blue brints for nerfs.

Starting point is 03:44:43 Oh shit, the classic community-based nerf. Oh shit. And it's boob rants for nerfs. Oh shit, the classic community-based nerf. Oh no. Oh, you hate to see it. Wow. And it was just like, like they put out these huge diagrams and spreadsheets of like, this move would be really good to put on this character.

Starting point is 03:45:02 This move would be really good. And then it came out later. What the fuck? Why did they all get nerfed? Okay. Okay. What am I about to say? Guns the duel. Oh, I thought you did. Sorry. I thought we were talking. Okay. So guns the duel. I never I never got into it. All right. Awesome. Ask game where everybody was a versus sword gun assassin man That had you know Ouzi in one hand Katana in the other and you can fuck around right

Starting point is 03:45:33 God damn it dude that game was so much fun It had wall running and all this crazy bullshit But then butterfly was discovered and butterfly was the ability to run off the wall was discovered and butterfly flying was the ability to run off the wall slash to get some aerial movement and shotgun your way back on and essentially wave dash up the wall to create wall-based combat. Cool. Vertical play. Change the game. Sickest shit ever. Unintended play play gone from the game Murdered it Completely murdered it All the fun a bunch of hackers came and and put cheats in and they needed to address all of that shit Because it was impossible to really have to play but

Starting point is 03:46:21 Butterflying made the game something else completely. And then they just took it the fuck out. And it was too much fun. You know, and that I remember that exact thing. So, Hey, I'm being informed that the helmet thing that I'm talking about, I'm completely wrong. And the most of those options stayed and we're not nerfed, which is weird because I remember the warframe community screaming about nerfs that whole time. So take that story with a grand assault. I might have remembered it wrong, but I'm pretty sure. So yeah, the fact that emergent gameplay will sometimes be the defining thing is a very good like second point to prioritize the fun, you know.

Starting point is 03:47:03 Yeah, the worst thing that can happen in your game is like, oh man, there's this really cool thing. I'm gonna start playing the game, oh, cool. And then they're like, no, get it out, get it out of there. No, stop it, stop it, you're having fun, no. Yeah. It was, it was interesting, because I remember like, you know,

Starting point is 03:47:20 I feel like with like Phoenix, there was that era of like Phoenix dominating the entire meta. And there was always that like, oh, there was that era of Phoenix dominating the entire meta. And there was always that like, oh, is he gonna get the conditions? Are they not? Like what's gonna happen? And like the closer you were to it,

Starting point is 03:47:34 the more you were just like, oh my God, fuck this fucking character. And then ways to contain it kind of eventually simmered up. It took a while to cook, but then it started to happen. And then Phoenix Wright later came out in an ultimate and was another like conditional checkmate, but it just was too hard to actually get to it. So it didn't go the same way,

Starting point is 03:47:59 but it was so much fun every time someone picks a Phoenix right and you go, oh my God, they're picking a Phoenix right. Where's this game going to go? You know? Anyways, that's going to do it. That's a podcast. Hey, by the way, if you're listening to the live version, you can go to twitch.tv slash peach saliva tonight to check out Bloodborne.

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