Castle Super Beast - CSB 222: That OD was OD! (feat. @TheSphereHunter)

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Starting point is 00:01:07 Also, no, we're all muted. This is my favorite part of the podcast is, the favorite part of the podcast is by load up the podcast on another monitor while listening to you guys also to see if I can hear you guys while I hear you guys. Uh huh. That's my favorite part. It's I really enjoy it.

Starting point is 00:01:25 It's a very fun time to do. Okay. Alright, it appears actually the problem is chat is muted. Oh, chat stupid. Yeah. You guys don't know what you're doing. Fucking good job. Yeah, chat.

Starting point is 00:01:39 Anyways. Hello. Hi. What's up? Hey, what's up? I want to say something right when we start first of all. Thanks for coming on the show Susie very much appreciate it That's it. Thanks for having me Yeah, I had a really good time playing a lot of Street Fighter before it came out

Starting point is 00:01:59 So and I I think I bugged both of you. I was like I want to be on this podcast. I want to talk about it It's really cool. I mean like there's there's been much a street fighting and there's been Much of you around the street fighting. I saw some shenanigans going down with Alex and so on on stream So we'll talk about it. There's much to talk about The second thing that I want to say is like I kind of resent today's podcast because I was playing Street Fighter 6 up until 12.54 PM and then will he's like

Starting point is 00:02:33 Hey and called me on discord and the discord noise made my match screw up and I'm like dammit stupid podcast I don't want to talk about Street Fighter 6. I just want to play more Street Fighter 6. And that's the best possible compliments one can make to that game. There you go. Exactly. Stop playing it to come talk about it for a second. Yeah. It's like for our mental health. Like stop playing it.

Starting point is 00:03:02 Yeah man. No. stop playing it. Yeah man no it's been it's been very fun obviously like this has been a very positive launch it's been you know nice to see a lot of people warming the fuck up and and uh go and like my god, I kind of get what these idiots have been talking about for a long time now and Yeah, man. It's it's like There's always that little thing where you're like, okay in these opening hours. How do I want to spend my time? You know, and you have to really go like, okay, how much do I want to like go figure stuff out? How much do I want to just like How much do I want to go figure stuff out? How much do I want to just like, mash my face against whatever's going on in the battle hub?

Starting point is 00:03:48 How much do I want to actually jump online and look at what other people are figuring out? And you gotta just put a fucking plan, you have to get a plan around for how you want to run your day. It doesn't help that I continue to have a million other things going on and I'm very busy regardless of this launch window. But nonetheless, when I'm doing one thing, I'm like, fuck, I want to be over there doing this other thing. And the old community from

Starting point is 00:04:16 my locals are all in a chat room, popping up, and everyone's showing tack off. And that threat is impossible to keep up with with and it's flying a million miles a minute and like any time you jump in you're like oh my god that's sick so you're just drawn in like 15 different directions at once with these things. Did you know that Honda invalidates JP's fucking zoning game? My head butt just goes through all of this fucking projectiles. I mean this- I found that out five minutes ago.

Starting point is 00:04:43 Sure. Yeah, you know, there's a couple of ways of dealing with that. Lily can just fucking, woo, just spire right through most zoning, so that's nice. Did you guys know that JP does not have a chin under that beard? Oh god, it's horrifying. I can show you a picture. He has the bearded curse that many of us have including me Just put more hair on it'll even out your now fucking head when you say it doesn't have a chin Do you mean like has a Struck like an underwhelming lack of chin or do you mean like literal? I just sent I just sent you a picture. Oh

Starting point is 00:05:20 That is oh I'm putting this up on the Twitter is. Oh! Oh, no! I'm putting this up on the Twitter doc. Oh! Oh, did you see this? This is disgusting. I'll send you the tweet that I found. Oh, my God.

Starting point is 00:05:35 Oh, my God. It's Zanki versus JPEG, but they're missing their facial hair. And it's kind of horrifying. The moderns need to stop. We've gone too far. Oh, don't care for this. Okay. What a different energy. Now that just turns into like Lord of the Rings villain, you know, just like our evil Harry Potter

Starting point is 00:05:59 villain. Oh, man. Hey, woolly, before we get too far away from it, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, oh, there's gonna be a lot to talk about today. It's gonna be hard to keep these threads. But you said that like you gotta have like a spreadsheet or like a planner to like actually figure out what you wanna do with this game. It's funny because you mentioned it about like the launch.

Starting point is 00:06:18 Usually for anything on the internet, that plan would be made for you. And the plan would be, I guess I'll play the god damn single player for The first it comes out on Thursday. I'll play the single player until this coming Tuesday while they figure out and get the fucking matches working And fix the the problems that the battle hub has and yeah People are rampant rampantly disconnecting and their server problems blah blah blah And I'll just do the single player and unlock the costumes all that goes no fuck that that online beta fucking worked I have had zero problems. I have not talked to anyone who has had any problems at all

Starting point is 00:06:57 Just matches just matches matches matches and the fastest possible rematch Ever oh my god start like it's insane how quickly you just matches and the fastest possible rematch ever. Oh my God. You start like, it's insane how quickly you just, blah, fight, blah, fight like in, in, in, you know. Even on the, even in the like the fighting ground menu, when you like click on like casual or ranked, like you just sit there for one second

Starting point is 00:07:19 and then you get a match and then the match plays out and then you go back and then you get another match. It's like, It's insanity. Like, so many people are playing this game right now. I think the biggest, like, the longest lag you feel is that moment when you're out of cabinet, and it goes from training mode over to the match, and you can't press buttons for a second.

Starting point is 00:07:38 Yeah. That little second is like, okay, what's happening? Someone's jumping in, and then you kind of, that's the longest you have to wait. And then once the match starts, you just hit, rematch the whole time and just keep going. Yeah, I'm looking forward to the day when we don't have to point out how awesome it is

Starting point is 00:07:56 that these things just work. And we can just talk about the other things, you know? The things that should have been always there are just like, not longer taken for granted or no longer ignored and you can just move on to like the content and not like actually making sure that it fucking works. Maybe this is the beginning of that. Whatever it is. I mean, people are saying things and questions are being asked and so on. I mean, I don't know how many qualifiers I can put up,

Starting point is 00:08:27 but like, this one's, that this might be it, man. This is, this might be it. I'm like extremely confident saying this is the best fighting game product to ever have come out. It's like the only thing that I'm gonna hold to back on that is time. Let's just see what happens with time. But the trajectory is a million percent on track to being the best, easily on track to

Starting point is 00:09:00 being the best. Right. Right before the podcast started, I mentioned, oh, I have one complaint. And then in the 90 seconds it took for us to talk about something else, I had to struggle to remember what that complaint was because it was so minor. And like the only complaint I have so far for the entire game

Starting point is 00:09:20 is the maximum club size is too small. It's 100 people, that's hilarious. There's one of me, there's one of Wolley, there's one of the podcast, and there's like 900 other people that are making variations because they can't be in one big club at a time. I know that clubs got added to five later on, and they allowed access to the training stage

Starting point is 00:09:48 that Dan had and such. For in this case, that's a really small number, but I'm imagining as we go into the future, that number will stop being small as the player numbers dwindle, right? There's a certain point you hit where it like it becomes, like, oh, most clubs are not gonna be filled up, but anything associated with like, yeah,

Starting point is 00:10:10 like a podcast or a channel or something, in this launch window, you wanna be able to up that quite a bit. It's also like the minors thing I was saying about it is just like, I wish that the ability to jump online and group up and do ranked matches as a group, train as a group, do a bunch of bullshit as a group, was a staple feature so that you can kind of have something to emphasize for people to come back and have a Friday night thing to do, you know, queue up with the friends and play together.

Starting point is 00:10:42 That's something that would help protect against the two-month drop-off. But either way, this is the honeymoon phase. We have to just be real about that. And like, we're going to need to see how things shape up once the dust settles a little bit. But the trajectory is so clear. The path is clear for Street Fighter 6 to rule. so clear, the path is clear for Street Fighter VI to rule. I feel like, I feel like, you know, we are absolutely in the honeymoon phase, but I feel like an objective and fair way to compare that is against the honeymoon phase of its direct contemporaries. Like the honeymoon phase of, say, five had like caveats with it. It had like five honeymoon phase was like,

Starting point is 00:11:28 yeah, when the matches are good, it's good, but when it's bad, it's the actual fucking worst thing I've ever played in my goddamn life. The honeymoon phase of Tekken was Akuma wins forever, and I guess that's the end of that. And that's awesome. You know, and the honeymoon phase of strife was like, this is the coolest, greatest fucking sickest shit with, with, with, Arxis is done.

Starting point is 00:12:00 And your story mode is just an anime and this is how we're gonna separate things and you're either down for that or not. Um, but I prefer a story mode that involves playing as a part of the world. And- Yeah, I was not down with that. I kind of find it's like, it's interesting because if you like, it's the most cinematic way to tell your story, but as a video game,

Starting point is 00:12:27 I'm not going to say call it a cop out, but I prefer that they come up with a solution that lets you actually play the fucking thing. Back in Exord when they first started doing that, I did it in a couple of bite-sized chunks initially, and then obviously when I did the lore videos, I went back through, but I was struggling with the four hour length of getting through that initially, and like, yeah, when you break that up with, you know, having a place to play

Starting point is 00:12:58 or a chapter to play as Cassie Cage or something, then you go, okay, well, that chapter's done, I've done this segment, I can, you know, call it here for now or so as opposed to just like it keeps going. My honeymoon with strife was a lot simpler. It was, these matches are great. I'm having a great time. It would be nice if I could play one match

Starting point is 00:13:20 more than every eight minutes. It'd be really nice if I could play more than 10 matches in one hour. Am I misremembering, but did that game take like 10 full minutes to just start? Yep, it absolutely did. The fucking R-code button, the launch. So, I mean, there was a solution to this

Starting point is 00:13:41 in the form of a mod that you could install called Tootsugeki, which would boot up faster, and then you could install Tootsugeki on Gbonga mode for even faster booting up. But yes, that initializing screen would connect to servers in Japan and verify something and send back a ping, and they would do that. I want to say 324 times. So that and it was and that inflated and and basically led to yeah that full 5 minute or whatever it was logging on bar that was just insane. Yeah that was no good, again, while the game was fucking amazing,

Starting point is 00:14:25 while it was happening, the tower system was, it's not a real ranked situation. I get why they went for it because it is- It's a cool, it's a cool. It's a cool, and it's a cool that is friendly to newcomers, but it stops working once you hit intermediate It's a cool, and it's a cool that is friendly to newcomers, but it stops working once you hit intermediate and above level skill.

Starting point is 00:14:50 Yeah, every single person in the world starts to crowd onto floor 10, and then you might as well have no ranking system at all. And then the things where you hit celestial are like, okay, everyone above, which is like, where the gradients really, really matter and you feel them a ton Are just lumped into this one thing where it's like yeah, you qualify for heaven for the month and you never know whether you're gonna fight like

Starting point is 00:15:15 again, an Evo top eight contender or just the best basement king in your neighborhood But you but like it just it didn't really distribute skill at all once you hit that point, you know, and that was a bummer. So that being said, the game was fucking awesome while it was going. So yeah, I get what you're saying there, Pat, because it's like, in this case, you don't have to make any of those disclaimers, right? I have zero disclaimers of any kind. Fighting games have always, always, always, always had like, I guess like an MMO problem, which is like, man, I love this shit, it's so great. Here's the reasons why it might be a massive mistake for you to buy this.

Starting point is 00:16:05 And then you have to explain like, well, the fucking online, or it's actually hard to get good, or do I have to put my hand up and go before you buy? Yeah, no, for it. And this, it's like, one of the things that like, if I don't mention now, why would we even bring it up, but it's really important. This has cross play across five platforms.

Starting point is 00:16:27 Like the community for this game, because it is Street Fighter, and it is crossplay across everything, and there's no reason to think it won't be crossplay across its next version when it gets ported to Street Fighter, sorry, when it's ported to PS6 or whatever, right? This shit will have players forever. There will always be matches to be had.

Starting point is 00:16:47 And the net play is so good, I don't know, I'm often we have to talk about it. I have had two bad matches, and they were with Wi-Fi one bars in Asia. Yeah, the Wi-Fi indicator. Like, man. No, but like, the worst conceivable situation where I'm dealing with 400 MS paying, yeah.

Starting point is 00:17:08 That is bad. Like 99.9% of my matches have been A plus in the room level of good. Against me by the X box or the PS4, or the Steams, or whatever. It's quite phenomenal that people who, for example, like usually end up with the Xbox version of something that is massively more popular on PC and PS4,

Starting point is 00:17:33 in this case, can still participate and have as healthy of an online experience as anyone else does, you know? That nature of like being like, well, you made the wrong decision at the beginning of the generation, fuck you, you know, that nature of like being like, well, you made the wrong decision at the beginning of the generation, fuck you, you know, you're just gonna be shit out of luck for the rest of this, try again next time asshole. That's not here, you know. The indicators of signal strength or speed are hilarious because one bar connections, bright red connections in street fighter six are better than every other fighting games four or five bars. Like if I if I see like the the red

Starting point is 00:18:19 bar go home podcast that we had a year ago or two, like, is, is, like, nonsense now in the context of this game. Like, I can play people with 200, 300 MS. No problem. It's that good. I've had, I've had bad, I've had bad matches, but like, it feels as if, yeah, it feels as if what is bad for this game is a higher level of overall match integrity By comparison to like the match has completely shut down and now we're just teleporting, you know Yeah, I haven't had that yet at all like I've only had like a few hitches in like low signal Games and like the worst it's ever gone for me was the match just disconnects which means okay Then the video game just gives me a new match right away, you know type of thing. So Thing is though is that make no mistake like it's still

Starting point is 00:19:15 Yet there's still these little hit moments and hitches and things where it's like god damn it that dropped that stock You know like the the the instabilit like it's it's not I'm not I'm definitely not gonna coast side that it's like we have solved the internet problem forever because Whatever's happening from the user end is always going to Influence you know how solid your your your quality of a match is gonna be but at the very least the servers doing as much of the heavy lifting as possible And the games fucking code is doing as much of the heavy lifting as possible, and the game's fucking code is doing as much of the heavy lifting as possible. So that like, it's not compounding bad factors on top of each other. You know, I think the way that we could say it and feel good about the art phrasing is like, I think the game end of this problem is as solved as it's going to get.

Starting point is 00:20:06 Right. Like if you're in a shack with your cables actively being hit by lightning, yeah, no software in the world is gonna fix that. But in like 95% or a higher case of like normal setups, this thing is putting the work in to make that problem go away. And it's even got the quality of life to let you do things to offset the input like if you're feeling it, like if you're someone who actually like a lot of

Starting point is 00:20:36 people don't notice and don't care if they have a little bit of a you if you put like your your rollback delay up by you know one or two or more, but I don't feel that I'm trash Okay, but like the the So it's funny because against char against like like the characters like like a charge characters like box are back in the day and stuff It's like that shit gets more is affected more because you have to like react to things, you know, but anyway the ability to put like uh input delay reduction on as a little like extra quality of life that the game has is like oh we can put this on it'll might be a little bit extra taxing on your system so be warned but we can

Starting point is 00:21:18 bring that lag down even more. What does it actually do? I don't know, but it's some fucking wizardry going on. Do you feel it? It absolutely makes it better. And the thing is crazy is that like, it's like, and it's like, they're looking at the, like yeah, all the lag tests are basically just like, okay, PS5 is currently like the most responsive. I think it was at like 1.5 or something like that.

Starting point is 00:21:42 It's crazy. But like PC is doing like really really solid. You can put this setting on to improve that and it's just it's some fucking some optimization. Whatever the fucking is it clicks. Yeah netcode whatever you want to call it is going on. Is it the placebo? I don't think it is but the thing is that depending on your P.A.V.R.O. as PC setup as well, another thing is turning V sync off, right? You're gonna have obviously fucking, you know, the problems that happen when V sync is not on,

Starting point is 00:22:13 you're gonna see your fucking screen tearing pop up. But if you're okay with dealing with that, you get even more responsive, like, match it play, you know? I mean, everything is like really, really solid with that. So like the ability to kind of go in and tweak and get that responsive time up and everything is like a nice little, they didn't have to do it, but Harry you can, you know.

Starting point is 00:22:41 I'm somebody who... That's like the whole game, honestly. We didn't have to do this, but here he did it Yeah, I don't I can screen tearing is not gonna end my world, you know It's I can deal with Vsync being off, you know Well, I mean Vsync being off works really well like I have monitors that all support Gsync So Vsync off is how I prefer it because it kicks on the Gsync instead with lower latency, so it's like and also the game defaults to borderless windowed In fact, I think it's only in borderless. Yeah, no full screen. No full screen means your your desktop is gonna take care of most of that vsync shit anyway

Starting point is 00:23:21 So yeah, so Susie you've been out there doing it officially. You got the metal level 5 going on right now. I do, yeah. That is pretty sick. How is... Like, I was saying to you in Discord before, it was just like, there is not going to be a single character that ever gets released into fiction that has that hairstyle that will not get cosplayed. 100% of them are gonna cover by you.

Starting point is 00:23:48 Yeah. Yeah. And like I have the the Menno cosplay like in the works right now, like the whole thing, but yeah, I'm really debating like doing color 10, which by the way I don't have in the game and like I don't know how to get it. Oh, go back in fucking time and instead of getting a review code, pre-order it. Yeah, I think that's what it was. Um, I guess we'll have to wait two years for that to- Color 10 is special, really.

Starting point is 00:24:17 Because I assume they would just put it up for sale later, but like only like six, not only like eight characters even have a color 10, which makes it even weirder. Not everyone has one, and then I guess some are just not out yet. Maybe they'll sell it later when all of them have one. There were some obtuse rewards though, like there was a register your Capcom ID with five tier account beforehand. I think it's still open till July where you'll get a bunch of extra titles for online as well That you get super turbo for the little arcade and so on. Yeah, so there's these little promotional things that they're gonna do with

Starting point is 00:24:53 That's true. You get super turbo. Yeah, if you register. Oh, interesting I don't know how how to find it, but it's like you have to go through the capcom Japan capcom ID website But so it starts to rotate in on the lore, K-games, which by the way, I see people playing that shit in the fucking hub. I see people buying Street Fighter 6 to walk over and play emulated versions of like World Warrior.

Starting point is 00:25:17 I know people like that. That like Lord Jimmy Bones is this type of dude that would fucking buy six to sit out and play ST, like a million percent. I think you have to get, I think it was called the runback, the runback promotion for Street Fighter, and then, like, you go sign up with your accounts and get that stuff, yeah.

Starting point is 00:25:38 I'll look into it. Yeah, I definitely was a little disappointed when I went over to the game center in the battle hub, and I was like, oh, Street Fighter II, like, I saw it in the distance, and I went over to the the game center in the battle hub and I was like Oh three fighter two like I saw it in the distance and I ran over to it and it was just world warrior and I was like I'm not a play super terrible. Come on So I'm like I'm very like I'm itching to get my character dressed up and stuff, but like I'm gonna be doing a world tour, so I can't jump in just yet, you know?

Starting point is 00:26:09 But someone who's gone through this, you blew my fucking mind telling me that you got how many hours out of that thing? So when I finished the main quest of it, because there were still tons of side quests to do, it was like 55 hours. Is wild, that is crazy. People don't, I mean, I think people have discovered like the exploits now, but now that the game's out, but you know, when the game wasn't out,

Starting point is 00:26:40 I was like slowly doing everything like with the main characters, like learning their fighting styles and like giving them gifts like really slowly, but also like finding the perfect gift for them where now you could just buy like a hundred of one gift and give it all to one of them. You'll be your buddy and kiss you on the mouth. Like, let's do it. I don't remember that, but I'm gonna take your word for it. Yeah, but we're so wishes, but they may happen in God. Marissa.

Starting point is 00:27:09 That story mode is so fun. Oh my God, thank you story mode. Yeah. Have they ever said that she's like gay or something? I thought it was. I thought it was. There's three, his dislikes was beautiful women. Yes, so there's two things.

Starting point is 00:27:23 There's that, theikes was beautiful women. Yes, so there's two things there's that there's that the dislikes beautiful women and then there was in CVS His intro with eagle had them both doing the laryettes at each other and like I think eagle is also another gay character Pretty murder basically right so like the I think that was Possibly a hint or something, but hard to say. Did you know that Eagle has a pet shop in Raccoon City? Let's go. Are you serious? Yeah, he's on the sign and everything.

Starting point is 00:27:57 Is that three? It's in both threes. Yeah, it's, but in three remake, you see him on the sign. Like they drew him as like a neon sign which is really cute. But yeah, like that that story mode is hilarious because he's just like oh yeah, I like fighting and then he doesn't read the fine print of like marriage as well. And the fine print. The the the sign too, it says so it says like looking for a partner and then he's like, yes, a partner, I will go and fight and be joined and show my power, you know? And then like, it's like, oh yeah, only series about marriage,

Starting point is 00:28:34 trial by combat to prove your strength, and then it also has like a circle around. Everyone is welcome. So, Marissa's like, hey, okay, everyone's welcome, baby. I was I was weird moments where I'm the screenshot of like Marissa being like Zangie if I love you, let's get married came out. Yeah. Before I saw the ending. And I'm like on in on Pride Month, really? You're gonna just, un-gay, Zanki? After all this time, and then I watch the whole ending, and he's clueless and can't get away from her.

Starting point is 00:29:11 He high tails him, the fuck is he's literally running. And for the reason, running away. Oh, there it is, okay, he's back. And he's just, he gets the, and she's like, ooh, he's running away. Maybe we'll meet again someday. And she's so thirsty, she's so fucking, it's the best. I had no idea that was going to be part of it. I thought she was going to be like, yes, ancestors, gladiators, jewelry, you know, and just

Starting point is 00:29:40 kind of like the helmet and picking you up, but like the fact that she is just insanely, insanely after it with no shame is amazing. I love that. That world tour concept is so, it really shows off from what I've gone through just how stupid Street Fighter actually is and just how dumb most of these characters are. The early, there's an early game storyline

Starting point is 00:30:09 about like fabricating your own fake Gucci bag that can be absolute dumbest steps and like mental jumps possible, including, oh, we don't know how to get this clasp. Here, here's a plane ticket, fly to Italy, go to the call see him where they're reenacting like active lion battles for some fucking reason, and just go get like a single like a clasp for my bag to do it. The lions only come

Starting point is 00:30:41 out for celebrations. It's, they're not always there, you know. Um, the pay off to that quest is also just the dumbest shit of all time. I know. So overall, right? I think it has been very transparent from the middle of I want to say like season three of Street Fighter V, whenever the transition between producers took place, and hands were handed off. There was a group of people that said hands were washed of it. Hands were also washed. Yes, they were dipped in holy water and cleansed. Maybe someone lost a hand as well as a payment or a recompense.

Starting point is 00:31:26 I mean, whatever it took, right? There was a changing of the guard. And there was a not so subtle decision to take final fight and agree that it would never come back again. So we are just going to fuse it into the world of Street Fighter. There's a lot of stuff in that game that is never going to come back again, but is in that game now. So when they dropped, like, what, so Cody, you'd be like, oh, fuck, that's cool, right? Cody's back. He's always been a favorite. But now he's the mayor of Metro City. That's a great like change of the time and like, you know, that's cool, right? Cody's back, he's always been a favorite, but now he's the mayor of Metro City. That's a great change of the time

Starting point is 00:32:07 and things have evolved, that's great. And then they're like, oh yeah, and then there's Abigail, the all-tugo color guy. Obviously poisons a huge hit, but then we're gonna go get Lucia? And they just start doing all these things, you're like, oh my God, we're doing fucking final fight, three references now, what're doing fucking final fight. Three references now.

Starting point is 00:32:25 What? I was so excited. That, that like, that like sparks my interest in SF5 again, because I'm such a huge final fight fan. Well, but like when Lucie came out, I was like, what? And she's also from like Brooklyn, New York, and says, coffee and loves noodles.

Starting point is 00:32:42 That's me. That's literally me. Get on the ground. Sucka. Yeah, exactly. That's me. That's literally me. You know the grants. Like, sucka. Yeah, exactly. Like, you went to the barrest. Nice guys. So then, so then now you prime the fucking canvas

Starting point is 00:32:55 because when six drops, you're like, yeah, it is just Final Fight Street wise to actually. It shut up. That's the more Final Fight be you ever wanted. Susie would be able to confirm this better because she's beating it, but I've gone maybe 20% in and I'm like, yeah, no, it's the final fight street wise too.

Starting point is 00:33:14 It's is absolutely a sequel to that. It was, I said it in my review, but I kept going back and forth because I was like, it feels like Shun Moo, but the side quests are so stupid. Like Yakuza. Yeah. And then when I finally got to the side scrolling train part,

Starting point is 00:33:32 where it's literally final fight, and poison and rocksy cosplayers are there, because those people are celebrities in this world now. I was like, this is a new final fight game. It is literally final fight with RPG elements. Yeah, no shadows. And it made me so happy. That's the meeting truly on the streets.

Starting point is 00:33:52 Oh, yeah. Oh, my. It's like, it's, it's, you know, fighting games are stupid, right? And their dumbest hell and the universe they ask you to believe they inhabit is, is bananas. And now you get to run around in it and just see just how stupid it actually would be that they're like Chouli is a great example. I lost my shit seeing that loser

Starting point is 00:34:14 character so good. She's like 150 feet away from actual Chunli. Yeah. Yeah. They're standing outside a Chinatown just like, huh, come fight me. Did you guys meet Kenny yet? Oh, no, no, no. I didn't. He's a very thick Ken. I'll just say that much. Nice, nice. Yeah. I, I, it's just like you're wandering around. He's like, so first of all, there's the hagar memorial stadium, which threw everyone for a loop in my chat,

Starting point is 00:34:46 where like, wait, did Hagar fucking die? And then the game confirms, no, no, he retired. He's not dead. But like next to it, there's like a fighting tournament, sorry, there's a fighting tournament coming up. And like Luke and Cami and Ryu are on like posters outside the fucking arena, because like you said, they're celebrities.

Starting point is 00:35:07 Because of course they are. But that's so goddamn weird. And this is still like. I think it's really cool. This is still earth, but like Metro City in particular is battle world where there's just, and like that, I've joked about this many times in the past of just like what happens at Fight World though

Starting point is 00:35:25 And this is really Fight World where it's like yeah beat up that that store owner for a discount maybe And everyone's cool with it. Everyone's like yeah upload that that's gonna be great Like they're super down with like chasing Oh, holy it's not just Metro City. It's the whole planet. It's the entire like everybody. Yeah, everybody knows how to fight. Okay. Okay Wonderful. I did see some clips of like yeah, you go to like Nayshow at some point and like you just you're running through Even bigger to it's larger than Metro City somehow everybody's gonna throw down Yeah, I don't I don't know if you guys ever felt this way, but like, I always liked, um, third strikes aesthetic where it was like, you know, like gritty, like street, like rap music and all

Starting point is 00:36:13 this kind of stuff. And like, yeah, I know, I know. But like, I always kind of like hated like the SF4 and 5 like cartoon network, like every song has like bongo drums in it. It's silly goofball stupid world. So like playing SF6 is like main content. I was like, oh yeah, we're in the streets again. This is great. There's so much rap music and like neon lighting and everybody just looks cool and they act cool. And then I played World Tour mode and I was like, oh, this is where a stupid street fighter is. And this is where it should stay, honestly. Like stay in final fight. Like come on.

Starting point is 00:36:52 Like, I, I didn't, I definitely didn't mind the like, video gamey, you know, soundtrack because it definitely is a reminder of like the, I guess the legacy soundtrack, the legacy street fighter themes and stuff, but like third track was a watershed moment that was like, oh, this is the feeling of this brand, and these two should never be separated again.

Starting point is 00:37:18 And then when they were, it was like, okay, but we get a little bit, right? We get a Cody theme, turn the beat back, okay. Yeah, yeah. You know, we get a little bit, and every time you do, you're like, oh, but that's, we bit, right? We get a Cody theme, turn the beat back. Okay. Yeah, yeah. You know, we get a little bit and every time you do, you're like, oh, but that's what we want. We just give us more of that, you know? And every time they did promotional material,

Starting point is 00:37:31 it would go straight to hip hop. I think like- That would mean the game. Yeah, and that's it, you know, with the exception of like indestructible, which was, you know, but like, that was this, that was like the weird read on it. So like, sure as a song.

Starting point is 00:37:44 Yeah, but now you're like okay, so the the new people that our fans of Street Fighter are like yes Let's let's get hip-hop everywhere throughout this field this thing if you go to the new producer of this game Like his Instagram. It is all rap music only rap music. I'm not even kidding you just like here's a song that I like I believe yeah You know what it hit me because it's weird cuz I played a bunch of it and obviously the hip hop is all over everywhere But when it hit me is when they're like hey go get on a plane and go to Italy and they drop the main they give you a world map And the world map has the best song in the entire fucking game in it and Yeah, it's a it's a it's a it's a menu you only have to be on for five seconds at a time ever

Starting point is 00:38:35 And you sit there for minutes Because it's the best song in the game. I saw footage of it on one of the the Capcom JP streams, but I haven't heard I don't recall what it was yet. Nice, okay. Incredible. Yeah, man. Yeah, the homage to the old plane flying around the planet, you know. Yeah, that's a fun callback as well. So, yeah, I guess have you gotten to like do the Custom character battle nonsense like if you got in oh yeah that a bunch. Yeah, okay. I had a I had a six Maybe seven wind streak because my character is like level 69 and I have three life bars Oh, so I was just like mopping the floor with everyone with my stupid moveset of men

Starting point is 00:39:25 Oh that can do cannon strikes, but then also pile drivers from hell so like Yeah, I played some of those and they're super broken like the the your level is a massive factor in your Characters power. Can you eat food like you can like in the world like in World Tour in the middle of the matter. I don't think so. Okay. Okay Yeah, perfect Man, yeah, I've just like I'm like what is the current nonsense meta it with that, you know Is it teleport to FB? Is it what you know is it fucking? Throwed a blanket chandel and activate while doing a fucking Lillly windspire, you know? I don't know. I hope there's a whole community though

Starting point is 00:40:09 that is currently figuring that out and we don't have to participate. You just let the freaks go nuts on this mode and then show the wild shit on their replays or on Twitter, you know? So, Suzy, you can confirm or deny this, maybe it's just me, right? But like, I feel like the Avatar battles and the way your character feels in World Tour

Starting point is 00:40:33 really puts a spotlight on how much work goes into exactly the aesthetics and how character feels and how their animations like link up to their rig are just A plus for the entire cast, because picking any created character and putting Chun Lee's moveset on and doing her like medium punch, is like, oh, every character but Chun Lee looks deformed

Starting point is 00:40:57 when they do that medium punch. Like, your custom character can be a broken nightmare, but they also kind of feel like dog shit compared to the real characters. I saw like a Chen costume doing Dalcim's move set and it was horrifying. It was absolutely nightmare fuel just stretching out and you know. I actually haven't done Dalcim's like quest line yet because I don't want to see my character stretch I'm just so like terrified at the idea of that I don't want to see myself like have stretchy arms

Starting point is 00:41:35 It bet just better not awaken anything in me But no, it is it is actually really impressive how well The Frankenstein move sets like animate with each other like Like it's really cool just you know being re-u and then jumping forward and doing a cannon strike Like it works like it it actually looks good, you know and they have restrictions in place to so you can't just be a full character. Oh really? So like if you, yeah, and like, because when I was first playing it, like my strongest character is Kami,

Starting point is 00:42:11 so I was like, I'm just gonna make Kami, you know, and like mop the floor with this game. And then it was like, well, you can have quick spin knuckle and hooligan at the same time. And I was like, why not? Why can't I do that? I think the reason is because World Tour assumes you use modern. And if the modern mode would use the same input,

Starting point is 00:42:35 then you can't use the two moves. So like if the modern mode would be like forward and special for both of the moves, they they go like, well no, you can't do that because then modern mode can just be done. That is true, yeah. Yeah, but you can be fully re-u if you want. I guess they figured that one out because he's the guy. Yeah, I was going to say that, like does it come down to the slots? Is it just a matter of having, you know, enough move slots to throw them all on, or is it just like, even if you have only two,

Starting point is 00:43:09 it doesn't matter. Now, certain moves just will not coexist with one or exist. Okay, interesting. Well, if you play in classic, you can have like a crazy move list, though, of just specials, like, because you have to do like, the whole input, you know, but- Okay, okay, but modern.

Starting point is 00:43:25 I found that on modern. It's, it's pretty limiting. I see, I see. Okay. Uh, yeah. It's funny though, like on that point too, because like, I guess the whole mixing and matching, um, when it comes to this game, I've never felt the desire to Shang-Sung More in a fighting game than I have in this. I feel as if like I want to go around and learn more characters than usual I'm a character loyalist. I often pick one and play them to death

Starting point is 00:43:55 You know, I often love my character more than the game itself in many cases But here there's so many interesting things that I kind of want to just mix it up and yeah Well Shang-S song it as we say I feel really strongly very similarly I played 90 minutes of Honda matches on stream earlier this week. I don't like I Honda I have never ever liked playing as I Honda I had so much goddamn fun playing as new Honda. He's so fucking cool now. I did not know. That's the thing. I feel like they went crazy with modern controls to get people

Starting point is 00:44:36 in the door, but I feel like it had an alternate effect of like, well let's put so much work into making every character feel good with this control scheme that like every character just feels good, you know, even in classic. So it's just like, yeah, I'm the exact same way as you guys where I'm just like I would like to play as Zangief now. I would like to play as Blanca. Like I've never played as them before. Like I didn't ever want to play as them but I want to play as them now, but I want to play a zm now, you know? Yeah, I really like, I never thought about like using lily at all based on the promo stuff.

Starting point is 00:45:15 I was like, okay, yeah, there's a cool T-hawk, you know, second coming. And then messing around, I was like, oh my God, she's so much fun to use, you know? Like I just, I was like, I didn't, I'm like holy shit, I want to fuck around with this. Yeah. It's, and that's a really good sign too, which is like, you know, every character is like a, a fucking sinkhole you can dive into as usual, but um, the ability to just kind of like have a ton of fun across most of them is a really, really good sign because yeah, in a lot of cases if you're someone that's like, oh, I can't play this style of like plays blue character or this type of set ups puppets things that are, you know, things that are just like I'm never gonna the board even in play styles that I'm usually not down with, you know

Starting point is 00:46:08 100% yeah Everybody feels good have a little pocket everybody. I Can't believe they made a good fighting game again. What? We're talking about the excitement that comes from playing DJ Oh, yeah, what, where are we? Do we live in where people are like, yo, DJ is so hype. Like, what? I got trapped in a 50 game set with DJ

Starting point is 00:46:35 on the day the game came out stream because DJ's so fucking cool. Like, you want to talk about me not liking Honda. I really don't like classic DJ. I don't like anything about his character. He's fucking so cool He's like SNK character. He's like rock-houred being placed in the street fighter His corner juggling combos are like I just they just You know, like does all this cool shit on you and like man like talk about the glow up, you know I

Starting point is 00:47:08 I don't think the fakes were gonna be that scary and then I played 50 matches against DJ and he grabbed me off the fake kick Every single time If he nudges in a row Like you see the it's the fact that it actually activates the flash on the kick and the ping sound effect, but nothing happens. I'm like, oh man, your brain just goes, blah, blah, oh, I'm thrown. I think DJ is the biggest glow up from all Street Fighter characters that have returned into the new era, including the ones returning from five,

Starting point is 00:47:45 like old to new birdie, old to new Karen, et cetera. I think DJ is the biggest glow up of any Street Fighter character ever. Yeah, just in every regard too. Even his design is like, I feel just so much cooler than his original, so when I saw his classic, I was like, who's that guy? That's not DJ.

Starting point is 00:48:07 You messed with his level two. Yeah, so you get the three different variants of it, and it's like what's the difference between them, because the move list didn't actually specify, but now we kind of know the light version of the level two is the easiest to combo into where you just hit the next button and it does the least amount of damage. The medium version requires medium timing for the strictness of each inputting each button and then the heavy version, the strictest timing for the most damage. But if you fuck up, you get super low damage right across the board

Starting point is 00:48:45 Yeah, so it's a super that'll do like 1700 if you fuck it up But if you land it properly with each one. It's like I think 26 28 and 3000 Respect respectively and the other thing is like it is neo-deathly rave from like rock or or geese like it It's it's an SNK super that is just hiding inside DJ. Yep, yep, yep. Stop it midway through to do a combo as well if you feel like it, you know? Yeah, man.

Starting point is 00:49:15 And then like, yeah, the fakes are blowing everybody up and you're just, it's like, you're seeing him do it and it's like, even if you're getting dunked on by it, you're like, oh, look at him go, you know? After all this time, it's nice to fucking DJ. The forgotten new challenger is like, at his, he's doing his best, you know? I literally got a perfected this morning by a DJ,

Starting point is 00:49:39 but the whole time I was just laughing because it looked cool. I was like, this is so cool. Everything he's doing right now It makes me very very excited for you know every Everything DLC that we know right like what's that what's that gonna look like? How's that gonna be I want to play as like I've played at least a couple times everybody on the cast I'm like this is the best version of this character that has ever existed.

Starting point is 00:50:06 Barring stupid shit like CVS2 Blanca, right? Like that, okay that's- You got even that. Role cancelling, yeah sure. That's a fake character, let's not even talk about that right? But like I play through these and I'm like God, I want to play Street Fighter 6's version of Akuma so bad. Like the- oh man, oh man, I want to play that version of Akuma so bad. Like the, oh man, oh man, I wanna play that version of Akuma.

Starting point is 00:50:28 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. And what do you think they're gonna do? What's that look like? I was gonna say, do you think they're gonna do one button raging demon? Of course. Of course. 100%. There's a one button, SPD, there's a one button, 720.

Starting point is 00:50:41 Why wouldn't there be a one button demon, you know? That is true. And like the good Akuma's learned how to do a carademon anyway, One button, seven, 20, why wouldn't there be a one button demon? That is true. That is true. And the good akuma's learned how to do a carademon anyway, which is just almost like a single input, because it just buffers the buttons together. That's a whole other thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:50:57 Yeah, all of that is absolutely coming. New ed, what's that going to be? New Rashid, you know? I'm really like, it's exciting to see like what this kit is gonna look like based on how they used to play in the past, you know. It's also like, we're in that nice early period, where stupid shit is getting discovered.

Starting point is 00:51:20 So like earlier, like, oh yeah, you can just dash through JP's projectiles, like, okay, that's weird. Like no wonder I was getting blown up if the game earlier like, oh yeah, you can just dash through JP's projectiles. Like, okay, that's weird. Like no wonder I was getting blown up if the game was like, no, the way to pass these projectiles just walk through them idiot. But, um, oh no, oh, it's gone. No, wait, it's back. But like earlier today, I saw a thread on the Street Fighter Reddit. It was like, hey, did you know that Ken can bring you from one corner all the way to the other corner by launching you and then doing the fire hurricane kicks in such a way

Starting point is 00:51:57 that he's like carrying you on his back into the other corner on the cross-up Tatsu side. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like from one end to the other corner. On the cross-up Tatsu side. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like from one end to the other. Coast to coast. That's Stany's hell. I, the amount of swag. So that's the thing is, I guess I'm gonna

Starting point is 00:52:17 to talk from looking into Blanca and being like, all right, let's see Jimmy, let's see where where this is gonna go. What's the vibe like and I can't believe that the jungle the fucking dank dark bug-infested jungle There is a bunch of I have the way I've described this black a players are coming out of the cave and they're seeing

Starting point is 00:52:41 the light and some of them are going, and running back in because they don't want to embrace the new version of what he needs to do. But some of them are picking up glasses and a lab coat and becoming James Blanca. And they're realizing that the way this character works now is the most technical it's ever been and the idea of being a like just complete Gremlin that skips neutral and does gimmicks, you will,

Starting point is 00:53:06 that does not fly. You have to do a million super lab setups with everything he does in the most small intricacies um to get him going. And like I saw some combos that people are doing with him where like the way you are using the level two lightning beast to like cross the screen up, throw a toy out while they're being juggled and then find a place to hop and mix while the toys coming at you while you zip pass them is fucking IQ 4000 level shit. You know, it's fascinating because you take a character that I'm going to steal a term from Gerald Lee from Cori Gaming, a character

Starting point is 00:53:45 that was like defined by their own gamentals and is now like a fucking high-end set-play character? Insanity. You got, yes, you have to become Hank McCoy. You, like, it's the doctor is in and ready to fucking work. If you thought you could just rely on a blanket ball forward and an occasional electricity, get the fuck out and it worked in the out. I will say something, wooly, as somebody who's been playing just a disgusting amount of matches online against other Blancas. At a low or medium level, yeah hard Blancable is just safe to everything. Well, nobody can punish it. But at low to mid-level, a lot of characters from what I can tell do have answers that

Starting point is 00:54:37 don't have to be like, okay, I would say that an intermediate response would be like, throw a super at it when it's coming at you. That requires a lot of skills, right? You can't ask that of a lot of people. But a drive impact for a lot of characters will catch and then tag, depending on the timing. It's gotten, it's happened to me, and I've seen it go down.

Starting point is 00:55:00 I think it's the timing super early. Well, you gotta be on top of it, but I've seen it happen. So it's like, no, there's things. There's things that do work, you know? But you're looking at a couple of things like that, I imagine, where like, yeah, he's got like the little jump hop,

Starting point is 00:55:20 Greck command grab and stuff. And once you know that that's coming, I get like any character with a grab, then it's like all right, time to blow him up because when he whips, he's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. He's stuck in that recovery. So the gimmicks are there,

Starting point is 00:55:36 and you're gonna need to force these opportunities to make it all happen, right? I was noticing that I'm like, okay, I see the work that this character is gonna require. I respect it. It's gonna take some time. However, when I grabbed Marissa and I just started pressing buttons and doing scudums and asking people where they were going. The results spoke for themselves. And I'm like, man, if I don't feel like working that hard,

Starting point is 00:56:13 I'ma just pick the muscle mommy from the Mediterranean and let her carry me all the way through. Because I did my blanket placement, and it was like, okay, you land in gold and then like I'm like I'm getting out, I'm like my gold four or so within. I'm like yeah, what I don't know the all the work yet. But I fucking, I grab Marissa and I'm like yeah,

Starting point is 00:56:35 don't be in plat, we're good. Easy plat, you know, no problem. For sure. Hey, part of that, part of that really simple is two things that I think are really interesting Number one is Blanca's been around for a bit people understand what Blanca is Marissa's brand new so that that helps right the second thing is that all the new cast They all interact with the drive system in ways the old cast doesn't like Marissa's

Starting point is 00:57:03 Her big punch if I get the name of all Like Marissa's, her big punch, I forget the name of all of her moves. Gladius. Gladius, her big fist forward, right? If you charge that up, it blows up everybody's new desire to drive impact because it just beats every drive impact in the game clean. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Starting point is 00:57:21 It's shirt-o. And then when you die at her, she's going to drop that scudam on you. Watch out. You know? But and it's like, OK, so where are the trade-offs? And it's like, oh, well, there's some gaps in between her pressure.

Starting point is 00:57:39 And she doesn't convert off of lows. So you don't have to worry too, too much about getting checked low on her with her. It's really wild, because like, Geef can convert off of lows. Like, slow ass, lumbering Geef can get at least a little bit going off of like a low kick. Oh my God, he's got so much swag. Holy shit, the stuff I saw people do. He does. So, Geef has something going on.

Starting point is 00:58:06 I've been playing a lot of Zangief. I named him my dog Zangief. I like playing Zangief. He has a lot of shit going on. But probably the zaniest thing is the way they've handled the input buffer for his SPD creates a lot of really fun situations. So he's got his air SPD, right?

Starting point is 00:58:29 I forget what it's called, but the air. Borscht Dynamite. Borscht Dynamite, he's got a Borscht Dynamite, which is SPD is a 360 in the air and kick. But the way the input actually works is if you just do SPD with kick, he will do the fucking thing, one inch off the ground. Oh yes, yes.

Starting point is 00:58:48 And you can catch people. Yeah, I've seen that. And you can catch Ken out of Dragon Lash. You can catch people before their character physically, like the animation of their character leaves the floor. So you can just hold the kick as late as all the way at the top of his jump arc. Yeah, so that's Tiger neighing it, right? So that was a thing that was very important starting with Street Fighter 4 when Guy can do his air grab and

Starting point is 00:59:20 he could do it super low to the ground which meant anything that was an aerial state including a part of like focus crumple Okay, you could just go like do the input and then end on up forward and then like grab you as super low to the ground as possible Borscht dynamite being able to do that is super Clutch and crucial because like yeah, you just input it and hold up a little bit more You get it right off the ground which lets you do amazing things like fucking drop kick, wall bounce, back. For sure.

Starting point is 00:59:50 Into that shit for half your life. For sure. You know? Off one, off one good drop kick. Insanity. And like yeah, you get the ability to like optimize a bunch of stuff too, where if they're low to the ground and like maybe you're not in range for like a the super level one to work or so you can just

Starting point is 01:00:09 get that right off the ground just ppd at the end of a certain juggle super swag with that for normal throws depending on what kind of oak heat or position you want six I believe it's six. It's got forward back and down forward and down back. What are the other two? I thought it was down and neutral as well, but maybe I mistaken. Well, fuck me!

Starting point is 01:00:34 If that's true. I thought it was the, you plus those two as well. Yeah. Crazy. Uh, uh. What? This is? You can put them wherever you want them to be.

Starting point is 01:00:49 Wherever you want them to end up on the screen, he has a throw for it. Didn't even know. Didn't need to like, play like a thousand fucking matches with... The game is called Street Fighter 6, Pat. Boo. Boo. Boo. Boo. But yeah, everyone is the most disgusting version

Starting point is 01:01:08 of themselves ever. Yes. Like everyone feel, like you called it way before, well, you called it like a year ago. We're like everyone is going to get every tool that they ever had. And then some of them will get more. Some of them will get even more tools on top of that.

Starting point is 01:01:25 It's a page out of strife, really, where the thing that this cat, in strife, there is a thing that each character gets that enables a steam role. And you don't know like, like everything else around them will determine ultimately how strong they are competitively, but there's a thing that you must fear for everybody.

Starting point is 01:01:49 And if they get it going on you, you just, you don't know what's going on and you're just dead, you know? There's a great little thing. Yeah, like jump in, slap, slap, command grab. And then walk forward, little kick kick kick command grab and just do that forever You don't know what I'm gonna do. Yeah, see this. You don't know what I'm gonna do Do you know how bad it feels when you die in round one and she's at metal level like four? I don't

Starting point is 01:02:19 Cuz I do that very much know exactly how bad that is and let me tell you Do you know how bad that feels when you're a command grab character? They're beating you on your command grab sets? Thanks for walking towards me. Let's dance, yeah. Yeah. I mean, it also doesn't help that. It's like one frame.

Starting point is 01:02:43 Like the regular command grab, not the spinning one. It's like, but you like the regular command grab, not the spinning one, it's like, but you have to be like touching. Yeah, you have to be like one of against them. And like everything is, like all command grabs are like five, and then the specials have that like, it's seven, but they're the flash counts as two.

Starting point is 01:03:01 So the whole thing ends up being terrifying when you're like, I know that I have a grab, and I know you have a grab. And we want a grab. That's what I'm talking about. Let's just mush up against each other. And oh, yeah. Get a lot of like pokes into grabs going on with this.

Starting point is 01:03:21 That's my whole game plan. That's my whole game plan And then JP is back here like grab me if you want I've got amnesia pop counters buttons counters grabs counters everything but projectiles. It's unbelievable. I how good that counter is is the only character who feels like he is from a completely different game JP does not feel like a guilty character JP feels like a fucking blaze blaze Blues, Blue, Blue, Blue. Yes in the same way that that Crimson Viper is a King of Fighters character dropped in to Street Fighter This is a blaze blue old man coming into Street Fighter 6,

Starting point is 01:04:05 like clearly, you know. Like it feels like GIF versus JP feels like taker versus new 13 in calamity trigger. Just like, just stop, just stop, just stop hitting me, stop hitting me, let me move, please. Glaciest is also a really good comparison from Killer Instinct, you know, just like sitting across the screen going,

Starting point is 01:04:28 mm, mm, mm, mm, mm. But the fact that his get out of Dodge when he's in trouble thing is he doesn't just have a teleport. He has like a beat all things you do on offense. Like if I predict you're gonna do anything to me right here, I'm just gonna stop it. Incredible. And then people have done like some stuff with him where,

Starting point is 01:04:56 I mean like, okay, so like the best player currently, probably in Canada right now that we have is the flux waste from Montreal, really strong guy. And he's number one ranked JP on six right now. And he's like, just fucking annihilating people. And like what they have the ability to do is after that counter, right, the animation of whatever you're doing, if it was a grab or if it was a punch

Starting point is 01:05:18 or an attack, it continues to play out while he's recovered and then the two little floating tracking bombs are at flying at you. So the next thing he does to hit you while you're in the middle of your animation will be a Punish counter, right? And Punish counters in this game are the way that you get all your big damage going because it makes the character go BAAA, and then he gets to do the maximum fucking desk level crazy swag combos on you for your bad read.

Starting point is 01:05:50 Then at the end of, or in the middle of that combo, the two bombs hit you, and then he can do his level three teleport up to you. Like, fuck, man. Ugh. It's bad. Hard in me, I think. Whenever JP shows up online, I just say fuck.

Starting point is 01:06:08 Like I just don't, I just get ready to be hit from all directions. There was a moment where I felt like, oh, I can understand what they're going for with JP as a very dedicated archetype when his level three hits you from anywhere on the screen. And if it does hit you, it puts you both in opposite corners. And it's like, oh my fucking god, really? As if I wasn't a disadvantage enough.

Starting point is 01:06:39 That would be like, Geef's level three grab. Drops you in front of them. Next to the person. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean, I feel as if like, there's a little bit of that in the sense that Marissa drops you in the corner, but like that's her oppressive deal.

Starting point is 01:07:00 Her deal is I have two moves that will force you to the corner no matter what's going on, you know? But that yeah, it's insane and that's the steamer I'm talking about JP will do that and then continue to dominate because it leaves them in a perfect advantage The the zoner's zoner for sure Anyway, though. I mean yeah, this is this is this little little go on and we could fucking troen forever on everyone of these characters, but I am curious if we're gonna kind of talk weeks a little bit Susie, is there anything else that was of note that you'd like to? Um, yeah, so I did the launch stream for this game.

Starting point is 01:07:45 It was really fun. Me and my good friend, Alex Lee, who I've watched him evolve into Luke for the past four years, just slowly, him just being like, where's the camera? What's your word? He's like, you love Capcom, right? And I'm like, yeah, I love Capcom. And he's just like, he's just like, right? And I'm like, yeah, I love Capcom. And he's just like, he's like, street fighter, he's street fighter. I'm in, I'm in street fighter.

Starting point is 01:08:07 And I'm just like, you're in street, what, what, what, what? And then, you know, that just becoming like him going from five into six and Mr. Street fighter. Me being very proud of him that he learned how to play street fighter, you know? And from the streets, yeah. Unfortunately defeating me on the final episode of Metro City Academy by one, by one point, I was holding my own for as long as I could, but

Starting point is 01:08:34 I don't know if you guys have ever been on a couch with tasty Steve and vicious screaming in both of your ears while Luke is doing target combos and cornering you while you're just trying to do it. Can't it spike? Oh God. It was it was a lot of commentary. Very fun. We had we had Tacey Steve in the game, commentating and on the couch, commentating and him complimenting himself For the for the things he was saying in the game, so I mean, like isn't it fun to have that pressure of playing on stream and performing You know while your brain is like at least 30% of it may be more is occupied with like just oh god the I'm on stream Don't fuck up Shit what am I trying to do you know what I mean? I'm on stream. Don't fuck up Shit, what am I trying to do you know what I mean?

Starting point is 01:09:27 I'm on stream. I could see the chat. There's bright lights in my face and I'm playing on classic controls I'm not I'm not playing modern. I have to remember my buttons, you know, I got to remember my spacing And I did not it was a really stress. I really gotta say struggle I feel like Alex Lee is like turning Luke around for me. As the podcast's number one Luke cater, like as, look like, yeah, I feel like his Twitter putting out, yo, it's Luke from Streets with that bad mocap like weird PS1 character did way Way more to sell me on that character than his entire existence in five Any of the promotional material himself in game

Starting point is 01:10:18 Like he it's just it makes perfect like always a doofus It just it makes perfect like always a doofus Oh, I got it now that's it that's it everyone's turning around on Luke. It's great. It's great Yeah, I'm I love to see it, you know, and like like I said like I never I was never down on him I was I thought I thought who I liked him from day one, but like The I we were testing this to Gianni last time. The amount of heavy lifting being done by the dankest memes on Twitter when the voice actor decides to just become the character and fully, fully implicit in everyone's mind. It does so much heavy lifting as well, man.

Starting point is 01:11:00 It's the best. Hell yeah. We were driving to Twitch HQ and he was just 100 miles per hour down the San Francisco freeway. Just go with the Luke voice being like, everyone's scared to go a little fast and just a white knuckling, the steering wheel

Starting point is 01:11:17 and items are flying around the car. He is Luke, he's become Luke. He's gotten too deep into the role. Just I want him to be. Perhaps. Yeah. I want to believe in the idea that he's doing his every day, his every day activities from time to time.

Starting point is 01:11:35 And as soon as he nails it, like he'll flip a burger and it'll be like perfect. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's that was my, that was my my my week. It was very it was very stressful but very fun. I'm very happy very very proud of all the people that worked on that game that I know who

Starting point is 01:11:53 launched a very very successful fighting game like one of the best fighting games as we've said already like well, you know congrats on all your like you know launch content and the amount that you've been doing over there with the capcoms that's a pretty cool place to hang out and those are some cool. Yeah, I can't believe it. Yeah, they're awesome and yeah, I just can't believe that I've made it this far. Oh my god, how did this happen, but okay? It's going on Yeah, yeah fuck I forgot the uh the uh the we've been shouting like what he lances level three on you

Starting point is 01:12:34 As he's like punching. He's like you're taking the long train to Memphis He sounds like it anyway I'm pissed! It sounds like it. Anyway. So, this week, I guess, for me, has been... Yeah, it was pretty straightforward, because Tuesday, we were supposed to stream, but then we didn't, because Reggie was feeling a little sick. So, had to cancel there. And then the next day, we booted up our stream and then sat down to do some ff9 and then the fucking power went out and

Starting point is 01:13:07 What up what up what up that was it, you know, the province burned down overnight Now I was initially worried because I turned on an air conditioner, which you might be hearing in the background, but Oh great Cool It is there. Oh great. I had an air conditioner going that I was like, oh I don't know how the new circuits in this house are going to draw power. Hopefully everything will be okay. So then when we started up and then within 10 minutes it was fucking killed, I was like, God damn it. Oh no, I have a studio power problem. And then thankfully it turned out no actually there's a giant forest fire that triggered the emergency city breakers to go off because I guess that actually happened yeah I haven't been keeping up with

Starting point is 01:13:58 the news I thought Pat was joking there was a fire no the the the province burned down there was a forest fire and then they basically yeah like there's An emergency bridge switch that goes off because I guess like The fires can be exasperated or made worse if there's like live power and certain areas or something comes down So that just like hit the grid and down we went, you know, so And it was really funny too because I So, and it was really funny too, because I didn't even get to say it, but I was about to say it, because it's like the Thursday, right? Or so. And, you know, as we all know, the world has time zones in it, and time zones do interesting things, depending on what platform you might be on. So I was just hearing people talking online and I was gonna take a look at a little something

Starting point is 01:14:50 and I went, oh, interesting. The podcast is sponsored by ExpressVPN. Is it not? Let's see if we can, let's see what ExpressVPN has to, oh, look at that. Huh, you know, so I was gonna, I was just gonna give a hearty shout out on that stream to express VPN for anybody

Starting point is 01:15:07 that was, you know, suddenly found themselves in New Zealand or patchy in in Japan. This time of year every year. Every day is a good time to go to New Zealand, you know? Go hang out, learn a hacker, it's great. But yeah. I'm still impressed that Pat managed to fly all the way out there for R4. Yeah, it was, it was crazy.

Starting point is 01:15:29 Yeah, set up the same room. It was his heart. It was hard to get all that done in time. But yeah, no, so we lost power and that was that, you know. And it's like, oh yeah, great time for that, of course. Like, right, one stuff's about to go down. But eventually, you know, things are okay. And so we jump back on. And yeah, pretty much, you know, we played and had a good time.

Starting point is 01:15:57 We talked about six already. The only other thing of note, well, I guess shout out to the other thing with Street Fighter is yeah, got a little sponsorship going. Junk food, custom arcades is, they put together a two Wollivarsus snack box micro arcade controllers, the leverless stick. One is getting to fighting games, and the other one is just a wooly versus like limited edition brand. And if you were thinking about getting a stick or something

Starting point is 01:16:31 without a stick, actually, for that matter. And one of these new snack box micros is a fucking super sick way to do it. The, yeah, for anyone who's like a podcast only listener that hasn't seen it or so yet Yeah, we've talked I guess a couple times about how joysticks like nowadays There's like the the ways you can play without with a no stick on the the actual arcade controller, right? leverless is the way we're going with it and

Starting point is 01:17:01 They got the snack box micros that are like they fit in your pocket They're lighter than a pad or you can put an extra weight if you want the heaviness of it you know and stuff they're really fucking cool. I'm still struggling like fuck to learn how to play on them. I'm not even gonna pretend. It's like a fucking whole new thing. Your brain has to get used to it but if you're if you're definitely learning and or down to like, you know, put the time in initially, everyone is having glowing results with it. Like, I'm seeing a lot of people that, like, coming into fighting games for the first time

Starting point is 01:17:35 that are able to do it, like, easily, because it's just like keyboard mentality. And people that, you know, are long time players as well, switching over to that because it keeps the stress off your wrist and stuff. Like my friend Pedro who played really crazy anime games for years eventually started getting wrist pain as a result.

Starting point is 01:17:54 So he switched over and that's been a really nice way for him to get the stress off because you don't have to swing your wrist around like a joystick. You just tap the buttons with your fingers. So yeah, you can go check that out the I plugged it on the channel and stuff But it's a tiny URL calm slash woolly snack if you want to get one I'm looking at him right now. I look great. Thank you look really cool. Yeah Yeah, I got a cool question and I have a question for Susie as well

Starting point is 01:18:20 Yes, first three five to six you guys plan on pad I made the switch to pad. Yeah. Yeah, so you're sticking with pad, right? So is there a plan on pad? Yeah. Yeah. It's weird because Blanca makes me desperately want to like all my brain Blanca memory is arcade-sticking it. Right. But drive impact makes me want to have the button ready to go like that. And so I switched over. So here's the thing that's weird. I was playing stick during all the betas, and then for the release, I was like, fuck it,

Starting point is 01:18:56 I'll try out pad. And I don't keep Drive Impact on L1. I just use the R1 or two. Okay. What I've been using it is for every character has one awkward input that I don't want to have to deal with on like a pad. So Geef's, you know, EX, EX, Larry, is all three punches, which is a little awkward on a pad. So I do that. Or Ken's run.

Starting point is 01:19:23 I find actually Ken's run. I find incredibly awkward on a pad, so I do that, or Ken's run. I find actually Ken's run, I find incredibly awkward on a pad until I put it on custom button number two and then put on that and yeah, I've played all my matches on pad I'm back off stick after playing stick for 15 years. It's bad. Yeah, same here. I used pad for It's bad. Yeah, same here. I used pad for for strive and Like again, it would just go game to game for me for a while. So like strive Tekken, you know, was always a bad thing for me because the fingers and stuff But like in this case, yeah, I switched for the DI and then I stayed for the consistency of everything else that I'm able to do I and then I stayed for the consistency of everything else that I'm able to do. I also, I had more drops with like supers,

Starting point is 01:20:08 on stick, that I don't get on pad, just because I'm able to twitch it out faster. Somebody asked Thumbstick or D-pad, D-pad, it is always D-pad, 100% of the time. The Thumbstick is just, by de facto, a worst way to play You can do it to like get a quick seven 20 out if you'd like to but never ever ever play a fighting game with that Interesting I don't

Starting point is 01:20:37 That's how I've been playing Okay, I don't recommend it. Yeah, the left thumb stick. It's just really hard to dash and do good, like, specific inputs. You guys didn't play as much DMC double-may cry as me where I have to literally do a dash and put to do a stinger. Sorry, guys. Sorry, hey.

Starting point is 01:20:57 Like, if you're in it, you're in it. But most people will definitely recommend that you go D-pad because the travel time for going from you know down to forward or from back all the way across and stuff is like just it's naturally slower versus like the yeah D-pad is way faster than the thing and then the fast test is the actual Now like leverless controller, right holding back and having something forward. There's something really important here. I'm watching the chat as we're talking about this. And there is a gentleman in there named Dova 523

Starting point is 01:21:32 who points out correctly that they have whooped both my ass and your ass wooly. And they say they were using the analog stick on their bed. Sure. Beat me with Geef in a mirror. Just kick my fucking ass hole bed. Sure. Beat me with Geef in a mirror. Just kick my fucking ass hole in. Sure. Yeah, use what you're comfy with.

Starting point is 01:21:50 Anyone can do anything with the right attitude and enough fucking gumption about it. Absolutely. The recommendation. I'll use this. I'll use this for Ganna. Hold on. I'll show you.

Starting point is 01:22:02 I think you guys will get a kick out of it. What do you got? I can only use this one for Alpha. The Alpha 1, 2'll show you. I think you guys will get a kick out of it. What do you got? I can only use this one for alpha. The alpha one two and three. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, I got I got the memories of that. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, no, the thing is is is for people that are just like not certain they're not comfortable with anything just yet and they're trying comfortable with anything just yet, and they're trying to figure out what, which way to go with it.

Starting point is 01:22:28 People that often go, I'm having a hard time trying to do a fireball, I can't even get a hodoken out or a shoryuken. I find out it's because they're trying to do it on a thumbstick, and that input of like, the travel is, it's asking so much more of your thumb than it would if you just had it right there and just twitched it out.

Starting point is 01:22:46 Every input for a quarter circle or a short you can is supposed to be just a little twitchier thumb, but the travel on the thing is where people tend to have a hard time getting those moves out. Yeah, but at the end of the day, this is the same argument that we would have where you'd run into people who'd have their stick. You're like, oh, can I borrow your stick and you touch it?

Starting point is 01:23:07 And it's like a bat top with a circle gate, of course. And you're like, what is this disgusting piece of shit? Where is my San Juan fucking square gate? And then the octagon weirdos show up. I used to run octagons. Oh, you freak. And then I made the mistake of it broke one day and then I couldn't use a normal stick

Starting point is 01:23:31 and that was the end of that, you know. I was always under the impression that everybody who used an octokate is doing so so that no one wants to borrow their stick. It's honestly, it's a little training wheel because it lets you feel the input between the corner is easier, right? So if you're playing a charge character and you want to go from back to neutral, down to back and forward properly, like feeling it in between sometimes, a lot of people that

Starting point is 01:24:01 are not used to that feeling will accidentally go too far from down back to down forward when they want to go from down back to just back, right, or down back to just down. So the octo gate forces you to feel the click and if you feel too clicks, you know you went too far. But the trade-off for that, of course, is most sticks don't have it and you get used to that feeling, you learn raw as a joke and then you can't switch to something else, you know? Yeah, in the end, I ultimately would say that just, if you are determined and you are having no problems

Starting point is 01:24:34 with inputs, then yeah, sure, you could thumbstick it, but if you're trying to figure stuff out, I recommend not. But I'm adding. I have found that charge inputs are way more difficult on the thumbstick just because there's no like tension. There's travel time. Like if you want to crouch, yeah, there's like way too much. The one situation where so you'd see like competitive players that were on pad, what they would do is they would switch to the stick to just do their 720s, right?

Starting point is 01:25:04 Yeah. Because that's smoother than it is on a pad You just you know and they and good old player Vangief would walk walk in 720 you by switching over to that Um amazing little Accessibility option by the way in the walking around the battle hub felt awful on a stick And it does oh my god. I you know, I was like you guys need to fix this and then they did two things one They put in the ability to hold down I think RT and rotate the camera. So that's nice still sucks though. Yeah or

Starting point is 01:25:36 Grab player to which is log which is our controller and run around on that and then put pick to stick up for the fights It's you actually do that. fights. Um, it's- Can you actually do that? Yes, cool. It's such a great idea where they're like, okay, we designed this for sticks, for controllers, for pads. We didn't have the stick in mind, but it's street fighter, guys, what are you doing? And it's like, ugh!

Starting point is 01:25:57 You know, so like, okay, yeah, you can just grab a pad and it'll be fine. Because it's, you know, running around in a third-person video game with your finger on the thumb stick, pressing your trigger buttons, which is what everyone else does when they're playing video games in every other genre naturally works for this environment. And our K-Stick does not, you know. Great idea to do that.

Starting point is 01:26:16 That's definitely not. But. You know what an R-K-Stick works really well with surprisingly, and maybe Pat won't be surprised by this, but Wolley might be. Classic a classic resident evil games yeah there's no take controls take controls yeah it works perfectly right right right means you could do that weird feather stepping note makes no sound effect noise shit way easier yeah that made yeah I agree that am access to me Exactly

Starting point is 01:26:52 So as someone who's like looking around on the pad though I did run into this issues that you were just talking about where I was like Okay, some inputs in the game Require two buttons, right, which is great. So coward crouch for example with Blanca is down and two punches But see down at two punches on a pad easy, because you hit triangle and R1. Pinser, no problem. Right? Absolutely. EXs, ODs, they're fine. But hop, surprise hop forward, surprise hop back are three, you know, and that's where you go, oh, fuck, I have to do the finger sideways thing for the X and circle button. And then I have to get our two going, and that timing is awkward.

Starting point is 01:27:28 And so what do I do? So you can trade off a button for like three punches or three kicks, like an arcade stick used to have, you know? Yeah. But all the way at the bottom of the list on the inputs, there's something called multiple button assistance. Yeah. There's something called multiple button assistance. Yeah, and it's actually a toggle where if you hold that button, anything you press becomes a three-punch or three kicks. And that is a brilliant move because it doesn't make you have to sacrifice two shoulder buttons to get three punches on one, three kicks on the other.

Starting point is 01:28:02 You can just have it on that one to modify anything you're pressing. And even better than that, they're so fucking smart. When you hold the 3 punch or 3 kick modifier, if you tap jab, a jab comes out. But if you do an input with a special move, it'll be an OD. If you tap heavy, a heavy comes out, but then it'll become triple for whatever action you're doing. So, in game, the button press still registers as the one you wanted it to be, but it only changes to all three if you're doing something that requires all three. So good.

Starting point is 01:28:38 Just better. Three-fatter-six is top to bottom filled with things. I look at that and I've I've messed around with it and like I My brain will never map a modifier button onto a controller like the way that that works makes my brain shut down I don't know no button has to be button whatever it happens to be right but for somebody who's brain can map that wow That is an incredible goddamn feature feature yep what hold for a D is is full of shit like that I was playing Honda and I crouch with Honda and after like four or five seconds of crouching with

Starting point is 01:29:14 Honda his idle stance changes so he gets more comfortable so because if you're playing as Honda yeah you're gonna crouch for like weirdly gigantic long periods of time. And just fill with all these little details of a game that was clearly in development for a really long time, where somebody went, wouldn't that be cool? Wouldn't that be really cool to do that? Yeah, let's do, we got time. Love.

Starting point is 01:29:40 It's got love. That's, that's what I thought. Yeah, it's kind of insane how we got, got re for remake and this game like back to back It's just like to giant love letter games so they're franchises. It's like mm-hmm Do it every time Capcom please do it every time and now I have the confidence that it's like the people that are currently there on the team like that are currently there on the team, like they know and they get it and they're fucking able to do it and it's like, okay, you have like, I can believe in whatever you guys

Starting point is 01:30:15 are touching, whatever you're working on, whatever you're up to, I'm just like, yep, it's in good hands. I trust the hands that are currently there. That's a nice feeling. You mean the hands that are so in love with Capcom when they're making a Capcom game That one of the first things that I saw starting world tour mode was a poster featuring the god hand poison Chihuahua on the side of a building

Starting point is 01:30:36 God Jesus Christ. Let's go Fuck Godhead. Yeah's pretty sick. Yeah. Oh, I found Ashley Graham in the game as well. What? Yeah, she was- The job characters just wandering around. Huh!

Starting point is 01:30:54 She was doing yoga in a park and it was a blonde lady with an orange shirt and rain pants named Ashley. Oh shit. Okay. I mean, yeah, I saw the Carlos Miyamoto and the trailer there, but like we got all kinds of stuff I saw someone running around and then they looked up and a sumo wrestler was flying through the sky Like a catamari-demon-y style moment of just a sumo doing a headbutt a cross-continental, you know That just happens to me. Come on. You know that unbelievable cross-continental headbutt

Starting point is 01:31:29 So that's how sumo wrestlers travel man. I have seen that guy. Yeah Okay, one other thing I guess just real brief but for anyone that was curious about it I went to go see a movie last night. I went to go see the machine, which is the the Bert Kreischer comedy movie. That is about, if anyone's familiar with him, he's the comedian that takes his shirt off. He's really high pitched in his laughter and he talks about how he got involved with the Russian Mafia when he was in college. And this was basically a movie version of that.

Starting point is 01:32:02 And it's one of those things where it's like, for years I've been hearing the story and about it and everything and like getting to see that converted into a movie is like a wild experience, but even more insane than that is the part where somehow for some reason they got Mark Hamill to play his father and you're just like, yeah, this guy's van while he's playing stuff of exactly.

Starting point is 01:32:24 I don't, and it's just exactly. I don't know how you got fucking Luke to show up, the Joker himself. But he's super, he was on board and he, yeah, he's in it as his dad. I think I found that after just because I think his son or his daughter was like someone and his kids were fans and they basically were like, hey, you should check this out and they showed him the story and they thought the story was really funny and he's like yeah okay sure I'll go do that. I think it was something like that a bit of a raw Julia playing bison situation where you know the grandkids were like you have to do street fighter and he's like oh god and then it was his final role and he killed it you know he did

Starting point is 01:33:03 amazingly but anyway. So yeah, they got, they got, they got fucking Mark Hable took into this thing. And yeah, it's just, it's an R-rated comedy and it's just, it is stupid. It is just like effortlessly dumb and- So you saw that instead of spider verse. Yeah, I'm gonna sit here also confused.

Starting point is 01:33:27 Well, I'm probably gonna go with the wife to see spider verse, but in this case, I just went with Josh. So excuse says excuse. Yeah, I see. I see how you know, sometimes the media we want to watch is is locked behind a marital contract. There's a delay. I know this I know this pain very well There's a fucking delay that you have to deal with that is like that was on the forum that you saw

Starting point is 01:33:53 Yeah, it was like all Spider-Man media Must be seen with me, you know So everyone's in a while that that's that that movie gets great out from the selection, you know That movie gets great out from the selection, you know? But I feel yeah, but in any case though. Yeah, no, it was it was just like one of these things to where like Yeah, goofy comedy movie, but it was also like Supposed to come out a while ago, but see, as it involves hijinks in Russia, it was kind of delayed and it's release,

Starting point is 01:34:31 understandably there. So anyway, it's one of these things that was just like, it's as stupid as it plans to be. And it has some moments, it's kind of mid, but if you know him and the story, it's you can enjoy some of it, you know? So it's kind of one of these, it's like, it's like if you know what's up and if you know going into it, then like, yeah,

Starting point is 01:34:56 go check it out, but if you're just looking cold at a, for a random comedy, it's like, yeah. But shout out to the Mark Hamill just being like in his, I don't need to act anymore, but yeah, you can fucking get me interested in something, and I'll show up for it. And then sell the- You're having fun.

Starting point is 01:35:18 Yeah, I'll have fun, and I will kill it in whatever role I'm doing because I can probably just go and ignore scripts for the next 10 years and then maybe something else might catch my interest or maybe it won't, you know, like he's in that part of his career now. Like he's like, I did the Joker, I crushed it. I'm good, I'll just talk about how good comics are, you know, and just get super in on that

Starting point is 01:35:42 and have fun with whatever he wants to do. So yeah, that's a machine. It's called the machine because the premise of the story is essentially that he went, Bert Krasher went to Russia as a student trip and part of their, and this was in the early 90s and part of the the way to get around Russia safely back then was the students had to hire or rather the school would hire a Russian mobster as a protection person essentially to as a guide that would be around so they'd have like security but security was just the the fucking there was a mobster it was just about yeah, it was a bandit. You get it right and so He basically was like oh these guys are look their partying and drinking and they look like a fun time a little bit low Let me you know go see if I can

Starting point is 01:36:34 Hang out, but he didn't know any Russian obviously because he's just like a dumb fucking whatever like dropout and he kind of Learned one phrase which is supposed to be, he's learned to try to say, I'm a badass, but if you mispronounce it, the word for badass sounds like the same word for machine. So he opened when he knocked on the door to the mobsters, and they're all drinking and partying, and he's like, they're like, what do you want? And he just said, I'm the machine. And they're like, get in here, say that again? And he just said, I'm the machine. And they're like, Get in here, say that again. And he just said, I'm the machine. And everyone was like, AAAAAAAAHHHHH! This guy, what the fuck is a machine?

Starting point is 01:37:10 Which is a whole other thing, because to them, it's like the most absurd thing ever, because it's much more literal. You know, like, like, everything you say is supposed to be much more direct. And so anytime you do something like that, it's absurd. So they're like, AAAAAH! It's crazy American. And then anytime you do something like that, it's absurd. So they're like, ah, it's crazy American. And then he just started partying with them. And from there, it went into a fucking crime heist nonsense adventure.

Starting point is 01:37:32 So his nickname became the machine. And then he tells that story on stage. And then everybody knows it as that. And that's why it became his name. And that's why it's in the movie. I am the machine. Yeah. That looks so confused right now. It's it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole That's the billion dollar question. Why the fuck does he take his shirt off?

Starting point is 01:38:05 But yeah, it went viral like years back on Facebook and around. So you might have like been like, I might have heard that at one point. You know, I've seen that guy. Why has he never got a shirt on? Never got a shirt on. Never. That's his brand. His brand is I'm going to show you my my mobs and my dad bought and my gut

Starting point is 01:38:25 He just he's got the hang going it is what it is No Never he won't do it But anyway, yeah, so that that's pretty much me this week I was I kind of pre-announced that I was gonna to be doing. Obviously, there's, you know, like, getting to fighting games, want to do some six

Starting point is 01:38:48 as a regular thing, but like, schedule's going to get a little packed. Mass Effect is going to continue as as FF9, and I announced, but I'm obviously, once Mass Effect wraps up, we're going right into World Tour mode. So that's going to be a really fun LP. Another cerebral RPG for you to play right after me.

Starting point is 01:39:07 Oh god. Oh shit. I mean, the fucking, I expected that to be like a couple sessions long. I did not think I was in for the long haul. I gotta say, it is kind of appropriate that you're going from Mass Effect to Street Fighter's World Tour because the highlight of both of them is like hanging out and talking to the

Starting point is 01:39:33 characters you like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, getting text messages from where you are. From fucking getting text, it could barely figure out his phone is fucking peak. It's great. Getting a text from me. You can send him, you can send the Ryu stickers and he goes, how do you, how do I do cartoon? Yes, yes, no, just jury being like, hey, I'm bored, say something funny. And you're like, uh, I'm really a compressor here. God, you suck.

Starting point is 01:40:04 They're like, uh, I'm really a refresher here. God you suck. They're just like damn. Fumble the fucking back, right? There is an amazing review text that I want to tell you guys, but I also want you to just experience it. But when I read it, I fucking blew my mind. I was like, oh my god. I know which one you were talking about. I think something said to me like the day that came out. It is fantastic. I'm looking forward to these texts like more than anything else in that mode. It's like the number one thing I want is S links with Street Fighter characters. That's where you get. Yeah. Yeah. I need it. So yeah, that's gonna be it. I may have asked Mano on a date, and it may have not gone as I wanted. Oh no.

Starting point is 01:40:52 I'll just put that out there. Uh oh. Damn, you have to get the right. That's what you're, that's what you're in for, Willie. You have to get the right gift. Yeah, yeah, I've played a little bit of Danganronpa, I played a little bit of Persona, I know the VN thing and get the right fucking gift.

Starting point is 01:41:09 And well, yeah, so that'll be a fun adventure starting once the schedule clears up a bit. You know what, it's also a lot like Mass Effect and one other respect in which you're seeing Luke and Ryu and Jerry and Jyn Lee. And you're like, oh wow, these characters look great. And you go to character creator and you're like, wow and you spend all the time making your character and you're like, yeah this looks pretty good. And then it does the Monster Hunter world thing on you

Starting point is 01:41:34 where the version of that character in the character creator is like one thousand fucking times better looking than the one that's gonna be in the game. Dude it's not fair that Bosch is your rival and he's just tripped the fuck out of kill season two. First DLC character of 2025. It fucking better be. It fucking better be, right? We'll see.

Starting point is 01:42:00 I really, really, really hope that he makes the jump. What a few characters. What a fun. Even like, even like, Lee Fen is like, why are you not a character? I look at Lee Fen all the way. DLC can see is like the future main character of Street Fighter 7. I see her as like an easy like torch pass DLC character to bring out at some point. You know, like, Ed was already set up in that kind of like,

Starting point is 01:42:26 okay, here's your little boxer thing and the new generation and so on. Sean's got to make a comeback at some point. I'm sure he doesn't think that I everyone wants Sean way more than they want Laura back. I'll tell you that much. Like Laura has a fucking the Bonita appeal. Eventually kind of gave way to what happens when you fight her. Like the amount of people that were like super thirsty

Starting point is 01:42:53 for Laura then just got schmixed into fucking oblivion and what I hate her fuck her forever. You know. And I'm just sitting here like, just I want Makoto. Oh, God. I mean So I like we talked we talked about it in four and we talked about it in five But six is a game that actually would work really well for Makoto Makoto could do Makoto things in sixes system

Starting point is 01:43:20 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm sure But yeah, I know um shout-outs to god damn it, I don't have the name, but somebody, I'm sure you must have seen it Pat, made us as recipes in Street Fighter 6. I did not. Actually, can you- Oh my God, I need to see- And one hit with the sound of my fucking voice. It was made a really good pat in the character creator's send it to the version of me. I made this dog shit.

Starting point is 01:43:43 It's a piece of shit. It's really detailed and I basically like, I like oh shit. Yo, what nice fucking nice job on that God it was posted and tweeted some time ago Yeah, I want to see Okay, I'll try to scroll back and retweet it if I find it so that It's there. But yeah. Detroit become woolly. Do it.

Starting point is 01:44:11 That's what this game has become. Yeah, and the last page of the character creator lets you show the recipe for the numbers. So if you want to like tell anybody how to make their own thing or whatever, they've got an easy way to do that. Brilliant, fucking great ass thing to do. But anyways, yeah, so that's going to be the case. And then something else I introduced earlier as well is Reggie and I were going to be doing the drive sessions, which is basically an excuse to get more time in on this game, because usually we would do like with Gilteague's strive, just play it every Saturday as getting to fighting games

Starting point is 01:44:49 for months. But instead of locking down that slot and making it so that like nothing else can happen there, we're just gonna make it a regular part of what we do. Yeah, I was wondering about that, because I wanted to ask you before you finished your week. And like, Wolley, is getting the fighting games for the next k-8 months just going to be Street Fighter 6?

Starting point is 01:45:09 no it is not but what it is going to be is it's going to be the regular thing and there will be a dedicated slot for us to play it. I found it. um it is kind of like, I'm actually in a very similar thing where I don't see a reason to not include a Street Fighter 6 day in my weekly schedule like every single week until I'm convinced to stop. It's a good ass fucking excuse for a slot. I will send you a link to the year. I will enjoy that.

Starting point is 01:45:44 I gotta say there is like real energy of like hey gang. What are we playing today? We're playing anime Den senseu for And you're like oh man this like the whole time you're gonna be like man This doesn't feel nearly as good as fucking street fighter. I mean, there's a little bit of that. I'm not gonna lie Besides that there's also the ability to get in some woolly versus whatever streams, you know, which otherwise wouldn't have a slot. All right, Pat, I'm sending you a link to the

Starting point is 01:46:16 To me, electric electric I can change a few things with the eyes and the hair. Oh my gosh. Shout out to electric serenks on Twitter. Um, height zero. Oh my gosh. Yeah, there you go. Oh man, your arm length, so when you make a minimum height character in that game and

Starting point is 01:46:40 have like a normal arm length, certain characters move sets, like the model really doesn't like it. And it just doesn't even approach looking like a fucking human being anymore. Then I guess that's kind of what it's like for me. And my real world. I mean, dude, there's a setting that is like, where does, what's your sitting height, right? And you can actually do the thing

Starting point is 01:47:02 where you make your body long, right? I put my height to minimum and put out sitting height to the maximum and it's it's it's bad to do it's not good Yeah, that amazing options there, but anyway, so that's gonna be the the foreseeable future with the schedule So just heads up about that and I also just quickly wanted to give everyone a heads up. And about, I guess, towards the end of this month, June 23rd to 25th, I'm going to be going to Philadelphia. There is a con. Too many games going on. And I'm going to go, Jim, I'm going to go hang out. So yeah, probably be there. I'm sure go jump, I'm gonna go hang out. So, um, yeah.

Starting point is 01:47:45 Probably be there, I'm sure there'll be some games to play, I'm sure there'll be some fucking... Bully, are you, are you going to Evo? Yeah. Okay. Cool. I mean, good. So, when they're like, hey.

Starting point is 01:47:59 I asked you this question. Yeah. And, oh my god. And now you compete to Evo, Bully. Yes, I can. So we can fucking just straight up, like, I've already said it, because the game's out now. So it's like, yeah, when they went, hey, do you

Starting point is 01:48:13 want a code like two, three weeks ago? And I was like, yeah, I wouldn't mind the code. And they're like, OK, but if you get it, you can't compete in any tournaments officially as a set of CPT for the entire 2023 season and you go well I'm probably gonna be at least one of them you know and then they're like yeah so they're like yeah well if you want then and you know mean, I sit down and like, Renier, Reggie talks me off a ledge,

Starting point is 01:48:48 and we have a big old chat about it. And he's like, yeah, dude, and I'm like, I know, I know, I know, so I declined it, we say no, and then it's like, I'll get it. And then to that, they set the fucking box, and that's cool, and I got the toys, and Luke's over here, and that's nice. I appreciate that, thank Thank you from Capcom, but I also am just like, yeah, that's a fair sacrifice. I get it.

Starting point is 01:49:11 I get it. You know, the entire response to the fucking crackhead trivia has led them down this insanely paranoid line where they're just like, okay, we also have to make sure that if anybody has anything that seems like it's track-like in advantage where journalists, for example, will be getting embargo code, but also will be able to get more out of it. They want to be immune from that criticism, and I get it, because when we went down there to literally do the little recording that we did did and the first thing was like, okay, so you have like, I'm click, I click the watch, just go now and I'll be back in like an hour and I'll tell you where else you can go. But start, you know, and you're like, fuck me, I get how much time?

Starting point is 01:49:59 And it's like less than you think. We got, we got like, I think two hours in each mode, you know, and it was just like, not enough time to get a ton of it. So the coverage was also very under, it was, you know, they basically wanted to make sure to not have any of that crack head fever hit a worst. So I completely understand wanting to shield themselves

Starting point is 01:50:23 from criticism on this. However, here's a new criticism. That's fucking stupid. That's stupid as fuck. I, however, Wully, was presented with the same problem. I know I'm not going to evo, and I have no fucking shot in hell at winning a fucking million dollars, so I said, fuck it, ban me from everything. I'll be too strong and according to Capcom I Am now too strong to be like allowed to compete in the Capcom Proctor because that'd be ridiculously unfair It's like very obvious. They overreacted to the crackhead thing and maybe they should have hopped on that earlier I don't know Silly as fuck absolute absolute zany. I do want to say though, I didn't go to New Zealand for Street Fighter 6.

Starting point is 01:51:09 Right? Because, and I really have to say, well they sent me that code at fucking five o'clock in the morning, the day before release, which is a definite improvement from the Resident Evil 4 situation where they sent it to me at noon and then a different code from a different person at like 5 p.m. Like, but yeah, I am. That's a good time to be banned from the Capcom program. So now to again, to be fair, right, while you are in fact too strong for the CPT, too strong, confirmed, that two weeks in the hands of, I don't know, one, Chris Teterian, for example, or, you know, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, Sonic Fox or, you know, anyone that is like a god damn beast of a player will absolutely

Starting point is 01:52:16 use that to their advantage and be able to lead that home stretch run of tech and labbing and everything into at least the evo season, but it does even out. There is a period of time where the head start you get doesn't make a difference, but it would for these first periods, these first events for sure in the status. The strongest players hands.

Starting point is 01:52:40 You're going evo, right? Yes, and you reviewed the game. Yeah, I don't remember ever getting any, um, are you going to compete? So I'm going to be in a pool. I knew it. I knew it. It's the funniest thing in the world. The way this shit worked out is that reviewers who do shit for publications and YouTube, you guys can have it a couple weeks early,

Starting point is 01:53:06 you guys can't get in that early advantage because you're all too extreme. I won't. Streamers though, ooh danger. I won't say anyone's name specifically, but I know a fair amount of FGC people who have all said the same thing. Like, oh, like I didn't get it early,

Starting point is 01:53:25 because I'm gonna compete. Right. Type of thing. And they explicitly said that. And I would go, oh, weird, they didn't say that to me. So I guess that means I can compete. Sorry. Yeah, when I signed the thing,

Starting point is 01:53:38 it was like a very specific part of the code request process, which was like in big bold letters. You are banned from Capcom Pro Tour events of the code request process, which was like in big bold letters, you are banned from Capcom Pro tour events of the 2023 season. If you get this code a day early, do you say yes, do this thing? You will be shot on site. And I'm like, and I didn't hear that from anybody who was reviewing the game. And I'm like, I guess what Capcom is saying is that reviewers are trash at I will say I did get a few and when I say few like five complete perfect victories

Starting point is 01:54:19 Like just both rounds perfect. Yeah, playing as Cammy and the battle I saw the piano before the game was out. Yeah hit that our camera. Let's go actually you know what now I think of it. You know what it actually says more than any of that. And what it actually says is the decision to fix the crack head problem came super late. It was a dude, dude. Really, like the fact that the second beta was like the exact same build as the first one,

Starting point is 01:54:44 no changes, but the demo was changed and Ryu and Luke had different things they could do, but this will, I mean, come on. You know, it was very clear that we were probably going to get a demo with the rest of the cast and the original 8 gone or something like that. Or you know what I mean? Like some sort of like interesting mix it around type of thing and then they went oh no fuck that you know and swerved it so it was it was really funny while you watching you and Reggie play you do your modern man street

Starting point is 01:55:16 and you were doing like the Luke auto combos and you're like you're both like oh they changed it weird and like and then I checked the build of the game that I had, and I was like, they did change that. Oh my God, this is crazy. It's, it's, things like that actually fucking, like they came into the demo, and you're like, ooh, they are gonna make things different. And then they're like, the open beta

Starting point is 01:55:38 still has all that old shit. So, you know, but yes, it was a very last minute decision. And yeah, I don't know. Hey, see you in Vegas, baby, let's do it, you know, but yes, it was a very last minute decision and yeah, I don't know. Hey, see you in Vegas, baby. Let's do it, you know, like it is what it is. Now that you have made your decision, it is your responsibility to place top 8 at the CPT. Well, that was the sacrifice, right? It has to be at the end of the day. You must. No, I basically, honestly, there was a part of it where I was kind of thinking, I was like,

Starting point is 01:56:11 what are the odds that I'm at another CPT? Because I haven't done any real Capcom Cup traveling before. And it's like, I might do a CEO or a combo breaker because I've always wanted to go to those, I've heard such cool things. I've always wanted to go to those, I've heard such cool things. Like, I've loved, Frosty Frostings was a good time. Like, I might do some events, you know?

Starting point is 01:56:31 Like, it's always just a fun hang and there's a good chance as well that like the MTLSF community gets reinvigorated and starts traveling a little bit. So, you know, not that I'm in a phase of my life where that time is as free as it once used to be, but I still wanna make it out to a couple things. And the idea of traveling somewhere for a weekend,

Starting point is 01:56:55 and not even being able to enter the bracket, like that's just a motivation killer. That's just a bummer. It's still a fun hang without the bracket, but fuck, you know. It is your god damn godiven right to drown in pools with everyone else. Amen. Amen. Anyway, Woolly vs. on Twitch, Woolly Woolly's on Twitter, and on YouTube. What's up? That was the longest Woolly week of all time.

Starting point is 01:57:22 No, no, we've done ones that went like 2.5. We've, we've gone insane with them. And oftentimes it's because the week will break off into subjects that are interesting for everybody and then we'll just go wherever, wherever. So the format is stupid, but hey, um, yeah, that's, that's that. Pat.

Starting point is 01:57:41 Ah, okay. Aside from Street Fighter, which I think I still have a couple things to say about, but aside from Street Fighter, Diablo came out, I played it, it's good. You know what it is. I'm going to move on. I used the excuse to do a Diablo stream to put a gigantic devil Bobby Coddick on the screen for the entire time and use a voice modulator to talk about recent Blizzard stories, which was I thought was very fun to do.

Starting point is 01:58:10 Careful, you might get fired if you say anything that's a little too close to hope. Yeah, you might. Well, at least that would be better than being hired and then just being unhired during the hiring process, because the quote unhired during the hiring process because the quote unquote needs changed during your hiring process. But moving on from that, the system shock remake came out and the system shock remake is fucking fantastic and is a really incredible example of how like games from all eras of time were all fucking fantastic But interface is like the the best thing to change since the 90s

Starting point is 01:58:54 Like every game that came out in the 90s had like the shittiest fucking UI you could ever imagine and system shock had one of the shittiest So just cleaning that up. Wow, this game's incredible. Wow, what an incredible fucking game that a human being could play with buttons. Yes. That is really good to hear that that's the kid, that it's a solid remake so far

Starting point is 01:59:19 because obviously, you know, that's a bit of a toss up these days with the whole remake thing. There's an interesting conversation that I just thought, because so yeah, and shout out to Austin, the eruption, he just put a video out that was like games that deserve a second chance, that deserve to be remade and get a second chance, right? So there were bad games essentially. And I went, I kinda got, I was thinking about that. And I was like, oh shit, we remake the best games ever,

Starting point is 01:59:51 like as an industry and like games like RE4 are like these massive buildups to get the momentum to deliver that one, right? FF7 and so on. But would you prefer a world where... No. But Devil May Cry 2 remake might be the sickest shit ever. I do want it.

Starting point is 02:00:18 This is... I do want it. Okay, let me get the question out because I know you know and we're fucking, you know, you're in my head enough that you can see it but for everyone else that isn't fucking this, the question is, do you think a world where remakes of bad games to fix them and to improve them is a worthy endeavor or slash would ever be a better choice than remaking up a classic. Would you want to see like one game in us that's bad in a series of excellent games be fixed instead of I mean we're kind of remaking. We're kind of getting old with that was great. We're getting that with which are one Yeah, right actually are getting that with what you're one. Okay, okay?

Starting point is 02:01:12 Yeah, fucked up game for weirdos that they're probably going to turn into a real video game Rell Marie-born Rell Marie-born is not the same game as ff14 1.0. It's in fact a sequel to it I'm not sure if it's a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a

Starting point is 02:01:36 little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a bad launch, right? That was that's what it was a completely new game. Okay. Like it's a continuation of the service that is the same service that they offered to the player. Yeah, after the service ended and then started a new.

Starting point is 02:01:59 So it's like a sequel. That's why it's called 2.0. That's why the expansions are called 3.0, 4.0, et cetera. Okay, all right, yeah. All right, it's nice. Everybody wants to see you to read. It's not, they didn't do it. They fixed it.

Starting point is 02:02:12 Yeah, you're right. It's totally a different thing. And nobody thinks of it that way at all. I'm insane for even proposing. Sure. That's the question, right? It's like, what do you think about a company or like a situation where you have a beloved franchise,

Starting point is 02:02:30 but you're like, oh, there's that one bad one, you know? Yeah, so like I can understand like the desire of like why improve on something that's already good, and if you don't touch it, it'll stay good. Versus something that was bad, you could fix it. And it's, but I don't understand the concept because like if you remade DMC 2 as like a fancy remake and made it a really good game then DMC 2 that came out in the OTS is still a fucking piece of shit that game

Starting point is 02:02:58 doesn't make itself and the new game might as well just be based, it might as well be a completely new thing that would be better if not being dragged down by the old stuff. Like why, why salvage a fucked up meal rather than make a good new one? Because Lucia deserves a good moveset, okay? They do DM6 and have Lucia be the new main character hanging out with Nero. That will never happen because she is in a book hat. And that's it. Yeah, you're right.

Starting point is 02:03:37 Yeah, no. She is in a book hat-compadded to characters they're done with. They put them in books. Yeah, or fucking, and don't forget the anime girl and and the dude as well that are like on the phone, you know, just over there off camera. Don't worry about it. Yeah No, so so I think like the winning play And because I just thought I had it was like oh, yeah bad games don't get remakes very often It's usually the the beloved the good ones, you know?

Starting point is 02:04:07 And there's something to be said about that. I think the winning play is to start remaking the series, and if you start with one, and then you work through it, in the way that RE, for example, has been going, and you do a good series of remakes, then you inevitably will correct the bad one. No. And you can get that momentum going. It is, depending on how old the game is, that could be one way to go about it.

Starting point is 02:04:33 You know, I would like, sometimes they incorrect a good one. Yeah. RE3 remakes. I also want to point out that the series you just used skipped a bad game to get to four. Code Veronica. Code Veronica came between three and four, and they just skipped it. Because why bother doing that?

Starting point is 02:04:51 Instead of getting right to a good one. It's a spin off, right? It's not numbered. Is it treated? It's not numbered, but it's actually important to the plot than any of the games around it. Yeah, it's a spin off, but it's a mainline title. It's a mainline spin-off. Okay. Sure. That's where Wesker gets his superpowers and gets the Chris

Starting point is 02:05:12 hate boner. I think it will depend a lot on the franchise. Some cases it'll be a better fit than others, but for example, I think that if you wanted to go back to, I don't know, let's say parasite eve, the earth is scorched and salted. And like the idea of jumping into a PE4 and just pretending that it's all good is batch. Yeah, just do it. You know, you would kind of have to reboot everything and start from scratch and then work your way past wherever they got to there.

Starting point is 02:05:49 Well, no, you would just start from scratch and have like, like, Aya and then no connection to any of the others and just pretend those other games didn't exist. And yeah, actually, like, release a brand new game called Parasite Eve 2. symbiogenesis. And it's just a whole new game.

Starting point is 02:06:03 Ha-ha-ha-ha. Just, just, and then work your NFTs into it right can we wait? We're doing no, okay, I would love if that if that ever happened I would like honestly like it just never stop hating square like if they if they brought pericidee back as NFTs I would just be like yo fuck this comes to me. setup to me, look, you will never do anything. I feel like this is the setup to me, look, you will never do anything. You've already done so when we just didn't notice. Perhaps.

Starting point is 02:06:29 Guys, symbiogenesis was a copyrighted trademark that they made a couple weeks ago. Oh yeah, look, there it is, okay. That's the parasite Eve logo and it was announced to be an NFT project. I am making a reference to a real news story. See this song? I'm announced to be an NFT project. I am making a reference to a real news story. I'm sorry to break it to you. I'm sorry to be the one. I didn't want to be. I did like actually parasiteeve though. Well I don't know what your classification of actually is like I abray like walking around somewhere. Is third birthday even parasite?

Starting point is 02:07:06 third birthday is parasite but we try not to remember that alright, well I only like the first one okay okay it's really like the first one it's so good well you know how I talk about how Silent Hill kind of was like a really strong downward trajectory

Starting point is 02:07:23 until PT. Okay. It's on a very similar trajectory as like Parasite Eve was just to took like five more games. Does that just like click that into it? Like instead of doing that that that over three games, it did it over like nine. Okay. Okay. okay. Yeah, I guess it just, there's just that feeling of like the sore thumb in a franchise,

Starting point is 02:07:54 you know. And movies, I guess, do have a little bit of this, but I don't know. We just remake a bunch of bad movies. Yeah, remake Godfather 3, but this time do a good, or whatever the fuck they say. I don't know. Um, no, I feel like, um, it's an interesting thought, because DMC 2 in particular is one where I have a deep, deep curiosity for what a fixed version of that game would be like, you know, I really do and furthermore because of the whole like Dante older at the you know like the the jacket being the coolest and stuff like I feel like you know

Starting point is 02:08:35 Malle Island and Lucia and and the the this stuff there that it's like oh man, it would be It would I probably mean via the Marley. Excuse me, excuse me. Yes. It would be interesting. Now, I probably would not feel this way if she got to play a role in five. Like every five was such a celebration of everything and everybody, but fuck you, not you. You know, sitting in the corner with your stupid second disc that doesn't do anything,

Starting point is 02:09:06 but like the fact that we didn't get that, it leaves that curiosity inside of me, you know? I don't know. So in film, you do actually get situations in which bad movie or mediocre movie gets remade into classics, so the obvious standout on this, I would say is like the thing moving from the thing from outer space to John Carpenter's the thing. But the difference with there is like someone looks at it and goes the core concept here is so unique and so strong

Starting point is 02:09:39 that I want to take it another crack at it. And it's usually a completely different group of people. Like it's like, the equivalent of the thing would be if like, I don't know, like, Square Enix was like, let's remake DMC2, for example. But for games, because mechanics are so much of a larger part of them, like, okay, we look at Devil May Cry 2, and like, what do you

Starting point is 02:10:06 like about it? Okay, well, Dante has a cool jacket, and there's a second playable character, and the second playable character uses bladed weapons as their projectiles, and they don't work the same as the guns. And it's in a destroyed city and there's a demon. And I'm just like, a lot of those ideas got improved and remade into a game called Devil May Cry 3. Yes, one game over. And so the parts that you would want to remake in two that are unique to two and never got in,

Starting point is 02:10:42 is just Lucía. Mm-hmm. And like the cast of the shittiest bosses you've ever seen you have to leave a lot of it on the cutting room floor like like you have to do some massive remade in a good way demon tanks yeah it would it would take it would take some heavy hand to changes. I think- I wanna see Argosac remade. You are alive. You don't. That is a lie.

Starting point is 02:11:11 I just wanted to say the word Argosac. It's the demon tags and infested helicopters could be really interesting on the RE engine. I'll have you know. All right. But there's no reason the Devil May Cry 6 can't have an enemy type called the despair reborn instead of the despair embodied and just take that whole boss fight I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that.

Starting point is 02:11:28 I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that.

Starting point is 02:11:44 I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. powerful thing and they both get a here's your king or sorry you're the king here's your crowned line right? Um, right? Sure, sure, man. Yeah, why not? What is, like, is Susie? You said you wanted to fight, you just said you wanted like them to fight the two to fight just, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, despair and body in hell because they're together.

Starting point is 02:12:03 But earlier you said you want to fight Argosaxe because, uh, what, the despair embodied in hell because they're together. But earlier he said, you want to fight Argosax? Because, oh, what was Argosax? Oh, he was a big disgusting blob of shit. Oh, you mean like the boss that Dante and Virgil fight in mission 19, double make right three. Yes. When you get, when you get to Jackpot, got remade into double make right three. Uh, it is, it is, so yeah, it's interesting

Starting point is 02:12:30 because there's definitely the one way of doing it where I'm thinking of like, you know how Metal Gear Solid 4 just has all the fucking little omages where you can go like Devil May Cry 6 where you go land on that island and revisit it for like two chapters. And here's a little bit of that, and then fine, fine.

Starting point is 02:12:48 Here you go. We'll give DMC 2 a little bit of a thing, and then Lucia will show up for those chapters, and then we're out, right? You can do it that way, like Kojima did. But I think, I think like game to game, it gets interesting because someone mentioned it, and it's like, oh, here's one, like in guard for example is an interesting candidate because near a one

Starting point is 02:13:10 Was the perfect example of a game that was like? Oh, this is a good concept, but the gameplay combat and moment-to-moment Jank is overwhelming with the original release and That was something that was like oh, yeah, you can remake this, salvage the amazingness of the plot and like fix the jank, you know? Okay, so I'm gonna stop you right there because the near-replicant release improved the combat to be okay, instead of bad.

Starting point is 02:13:43 Like, I couldn't believe it when I was playing through that, and I'm like, it's better, but it's not that much better. It's really not. So, how drastic would it be for Dracon Guard, for example, where the Dracon Guard stuff that, like like people are, the basically the best way to consume Drake and Guard is in the form of, I guess, Clems videos because. Yeah, that's that'd be correct, yeah.

Starting point is 02:14:12 Jesus Christ, you know, actually doing this, really, are you sure you wanna go down that road? So that's something where. They already remade that game though. It was a PS3 launch title, remember? Lair? I do remember Lair. Yes. It was a secret dragon guard. She's right. Remade. Combined with all the frame rates that you expect. Damn. Damn. Well, fuck me then. I don't know. I don't know what I'm talking about. All right. The game's sequel steal and improve their prequels mechanics so often that asking for remakes of bad games is weird

Starting point is 02:14:48 because if that game got a sequel that was good, then the bad parts of that game got thrown away and the parts that you care about often got recycled forward. The only times that something doesn't, like at DMC2 is like probably the best example. Like Dante's coat and lutha are like the only things anyone would ever want to carry over from DMC 2.

Starting point is 02:15:10 I don't think remaking that terrible plot with those stupid characters that are not Lutha. Like, oh, is anyone sitting around going, dude? What if there was an incredible DMC five-style boss fight against Bolverk and his two wolves? Oh, yeah, that'd be so sick. Frecky and Jackie or whatever their names are. Oh my god.

Starting point is 02:15:30 Bolverk. Whenever there's a game where, yeah, like two ends up being like, like bad or so and then three is like, we recycled and fixed these ideas and we, that was a like test run for the thing that we ultimately perfected. You get to see what the highest concept of those ideas are. If it's a game that didn't get that trajectory, if it's a game that didn't get to have the fixed sequel or so, but there might have been something interesting to it.

Starting point is 02:16:03 I think the weirdest one I can think of right now is how one Bioware remade Cotor 1, three separate times. They just didn't use the Star Wars license. It wasn't Star Wars, yeah. Yeah, exactly. And then they got the last game. And they last made it.

Starting point is 02:16:18 They got the make of the last game. But like literally, we're gonna put all the work in on this. Why shouldn't we get all the fucking money from it right is Clearly the side and yeah, it was it was a smart call to create their own star star Trek star star wars, you know analog but Like kind of both on us. Yeah, yeah, it's that's you know, which I you know, but like that's the thing is I guess it's just like What about the get what about the concepts where? It was something that like never got that chance, you know, but like that's the thing is I guess it's just like what about the get what about the concepts where It was something that like never got that chance, you know

Starting point is 02:16:49 But anyway, I don't know I was just it was a thought I had I was like yeah, I wonder if that would be I mean we've actually kind of like skipped over the real reason like the the actual reason why that doesn't happen is because people like RE4 and no one likes Devil May Cry 2. So when someone stands up and goes, hey guys, do you remember DMC 2? People throw tomatoes at them and spit on them. They're not going to get very far into the remake discussion of the company. Yeah, I guess pretty wild at Capcom. No, tomatoes. The legendary games that are very, very popular are always going to be the biggest drops,

Starting point is 02:17:25 whatever someone announced is a remake of it. Absolutely. It is, for sure, an easy way to confirm money in the bank, you know. I have a question for Pat. Would Dragon's Dog Motu be technically a remake of the first one? Dragon's Dog Motu is just the first one, but with all the content. I've been looking at the trailer every now and then, I'll go back and watch it. It seems really obvious. The Dragon's Dogma 2 is Dragon's Dogma 1 again, but more.

Starting point is 02:17:53 All the same areas from the, like, that you can clearly identify in the trailer from the first game, just remade. Like, it's, and like, all the enemies look the same too. It's kind of like exactly what we're talking about in which dragon's dog One one was like beloved but really fucked up and It's you know seems to have gone like hey, what if we What if we did dragons dogma but like we finished it and stuff wouldn't that be cool if it was like done this time? Ooh, that'd be sick Yeah, I'm like I I'm starting to think.

Starting point is 02:18:25 That's what Devil May Cry 5 is, too, actually. What if we finished a full Devil May Cry game after DMC 4? Wouldn't that be a great idea? It sure would. It's innocent. That would be a super good idea. So I'm trying to think about like, how I would feel.

Starting point is 02:18:46 I'm just trying to expand it into different franchises. And it's like, we're gonna try to redo Assassin's Creed III. And like, my brain just shuts the fuck down. I mean, we already had this discussion last week or so, but like, I'm like, oh God, the idea of trying to do that, to that franchise, terrifies and puts the deepest horror in me. The idea of like trying something like a watchdog's again, you know, where like, yeah,

Starting point is 02:19:16 I kind of feel those examples. It falls the fuck apart on these ubi drops, you know? Oh yeah, so silly. That being said, you don't even have to go even far. Like, we can stay on this discussion even within Capcom. Hey, Capcom, I have an idea. Instead of, like, why don't you put out a game that's like a fighting game and like you finish all the parts of the fighting game before the fighting game come out and then

Starting point is 02:19:44 people are happy with the fighting game before the fighting game come out and then people are happy with the fighting game. What if instead of Street Fighter 5, you released Street Fighter 6. Ooh, what a good idea. That'd be incredible, wouldn't it? Like this already happens. Like, hey, why don't bad games get remade? Okay Street Fighter 5 got remade into a good game called Street Fighter 6 I mean it's significantly more complicated on the timeline But the things that they fucked up that they didn't do that time they get to do this time. Yes But no completely different people driving the school bus Whether that be to the school or off a cliff uh... would determine the state of the product that launches

Starting point is 02:20:31 do not keep going with just refiner hey what a free we re-made new generation which sucks into a much better game called giant attack which is good right and that's he let's keep it going. In fact, the entirety of the franchise that is Street Fighter is the iterative process. No, I'm using these examples because I really fucking hate new generation.

Starting point is 02:20:54 I think new generation is a fucking piece of shit. I think that game's trash. The first version of most Street Fighter entries is rough. Yeah, Alpha, Oh my god. It alpha one is what? Like do a fucking jump in, like jump in roundhouse, crouching fears, fear sure you can with Ken, and it's a touch of that.

Starting point is 02:21:16 Like it's batshit insane, alpha one. Um, yeah, world war here and the, the amount of just like busted, broken, unintended shit, like every first iteration. For sure. Yeah, and- So like let's apply the same logic. Hey man, Street Fighter 1 had a lot of cool characters and that guy said there are plenty of guys just like you

Starting point is 02:21:38 all over the world. What if instead of making a new game called Street Fighter 2, you remade Street Fighter 1 and it was, no, just make Street Fighter 2, you remade Street Fighter 1, and it was, no, just make Street Fighter 2, but that's better. Street Fighter 0 is technically a remake of Street Fighter 1, that's what they were kind of going for. Yeah, but Bretz is not there. He's not there, he should be there, but they did bring back his hands.

Starting point is 02:22:03 He's in six, okay. But Eagle, Aida, and Bernie, right? They grabbed everybody that a bunch of the other old characters were Street Fighter One, and that was the goal. Street Fighter Alpha called Street Fighter Zero in Japan was technically supposed to be a Street Fighter One remake taking inspiration from the animated movie

Starting point is 02:22:23 for those of you who don't know what we're getting out there. Yeah, like what if we- Do you guys mind if I step away for like one second? I gotta go grab something. Alright, BRB. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I'll be right back. Okay.

Starting point is 02:22:35 Okay. Alright, hey, I've got one. Yeah. What if you were made a game that was like absolutely complete fucking trash called Mortal Kombat 3 and you made it into a game that was actually pretty good called MK9. That'd be fun. That would be actually really fun. Wouldn't that be a cool idea? It happens. It's just rare. Also Mortal Kombat 1's an absolute piece of shit. Like there's no way the new Mortal Kombat 1 has any chance of being worse than actual

Starting point is 02:23:09 MK1. That game fucking sucks. But yeah the system shock remake is good. I forgot. That's where we're talking about. Well what you thought over? What's up, what's up? I mean, I just thought it was an interesting thought to go down.

Starting point is 02:23:29 And you know what it is. It absolutely is. Like games that are bad or like kind of flawed. Like I think it works a lot better with games that are like horribly flawed, but have like gold in them. It's like system shock, when you look at even the enhanced version of system shock from 94, like the screen makes your eyes bleed. It's it's

Starting point is 02:23:48 unplayably fucked. It controls like shit. The interface is all over the place. Fixing that one part that brings it down hugely makes it like like a modern really cool game because it was ahead of its time. How much of that applies to system shock versus system talk to Okay, I'll like you can go look at the screenshots and video system shock one is fucking prehistoric it is hideous and Really really difficult to parse system shock two was a hugely forward and like they're gonna do system shock two next And it's not gonna feel nearly like as big of a deal as the first one is because System Shock 2

Starting point is 02:24:29 like the way that I like to phrase it is a System Shock 2 is like pretending to be a real video game in terms of its interface and its inventory and all that shit or a System Shock 1 is like from a prehistoric era before people understood to not flood the screen with bullshit. Yeah, that's basically how you talk about Witcher 1. Yeah, that is exactly how I talk about Witcher 1. Witcher 1 has like a good part, which is the story, and a bad part, which is almost every single other thing about the entire game. But-hmm. But story can go forward. What if...

Starting point is 02:25:07 Just like DMC2. What if you remade a game called Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake? Yeah. Yeah. It's a Metal Gear Solid. You could totally do that. And what if you remade Metal Gear Solid in the Metal Gear Solid 2 and then told the characters? It was a remake of Metal Gear Solid.

Starting point is 02:25:34 That would be weird. And then what if the portable game that was its own story was also a remake that was a virtual mission that canonically was included as a training sequence. I think the idea of like ghost Babel being a bad remake of this one is like the funniest thing. I just like, but do you understand how like 14 year old me would like is like that is the coolest thing in the world? And then what if I follow me on this one? What if you remade a really good game Badly into a version of that game that was way worse and called it twin snakes. Oh version of that game that was way worse and called it Twin Snakes. Oh, but, but, but, but you got, you got the versus combat direction going. I think I, correct me if I'm wrong, not just you guys, but people in the chat or people

Starting point is 02:26:37 on social media. I feel like Twin Snakes is the only like, oh no, Warcraft 3. Okay, it's so Warcraft 3. There's very few like hard misses Kidamura Kidamura cutscenes. I'm still I'm still super in love with that shit like the fucking Backflip off the missile the insane ninja fight. I'm still super duper sold on all those Willie's snake cutscene. Willie is easy to convince if you show him a cool thing. A Togor Satsur thing, is that what it is? Oh god, he steps off of it like vash the stampede.

Starting point is 02:27:14 And then he jumps into the air and he fives. Like, willie, this drink you're drinking tastes like shit. Why do you keep drinking it? There's a cool guy on the can. Wow! Solid snake in that game got to do Why do you keep drinking it? There's a cool guy on the can? Wow Solid snake in that game got to do all the cool He got to do the stuff that the super powered Foxhound soldiers he was fighting were doing except like now he was doing it just by being a strong cool anime soldier man

Starting point is 02:27:41 Whereas before in the original the coolest thing he did was like Back jump and slide to dodge the shot, the sniper shot. But yes, we had to sacrifice a couple of things and we had to get a Yoshi reference in there. Yeah, just a few things, just a couple of things. We had to just up jump. I feel like Twin Snakes to me just, my brain just couldn't give it any more of a chance When I thought revolver a lot fight started and I just went in the first person and just fucking shot him a So it got really wild when it came down to like let's add MGS 2 mechanics like balcony hanging But there's not a ton of opportunities

Starting point is 02:28:24 Because it wasn't built for it in mind, but you can, and it makes hanging around the Alaska base like the first area. The opening hanger. Yeah. You can do it. It's so weird to throw it out. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:28:37 Yeah. Breaks that shit open. But. That was the game where you're like, okay, we're going gonna fix the key card Warming and cooling puzzle And then they don't They just don't why would you fix it? It's classic and we're gonna re-record all the dialogue so that it's worse

Starting point is 02:28:59 Sick so bad so bad I remember playing twinakes and just being like, what the fuck? Why do I gotta do this again? I, hey, let me all agree that for Metal Gear Solid Delta, that the very correct decision was made to keep the voices exactly as they are, because they're good. There's no reason to fuck with it. The last time they fuck with it, it was a bad move. So that's something that like, we touched on it a few times recently

Starting point is 02:29:33 as it's become, as it's remakes have been discussed. And like a voice actor in, I am in a lot of cases will probably prefer to be rehired. But, but that is the question is like, what will the end to be rehired. But that is the question is like, what will the end result be? Will it always be, if it's different, there's a comparison point, right? And the comparison will be either better or worse.

Starting point is 02:29:55 And as I'm kind of reiterating the same thing I said last time, but it's like, if you're doing the fucking letter in Silent Hill 2, like, good luck, man, you're not gonna fucking beat that first time. You're just not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. Don't even try, you know? And also, I'm thinking, like, if you wanted

Starting point is 02:30:16 to redo the cast, right, of MGS3, and you wanted to rehire those voice actors, I mean, I could save Konami a bunch of money because if they want to rehire David Haydr to play Snake, I can get Konami a bunch of money because if they want to rehire David Hader to play Snake, I can get a fucking burlap sack and a bunch of rocks and shake that around in front of a fucking microphone and recreate what David Hader would sound like now

Starting point is 02:30:35 trying to do the snake voice. Yeah. I was actually, I was thinking about that because like, he isn't exactly as gravely as he is now. Like, for and like, a piece walker voice as he was back then in like a snake eater originally can't do the void. Like, every game that came out that featured David Hader had an interview of him going, yeah, I'm glad the character got older because I can't do the voice, I did the last time.

Starting point is 02:31:08 And he repeated that every time. By the time four hits, it's, I don't like David DeHater's performance in MGS4. I think he is at the physical limit of his vocal chords and he is having a bad time in the booth. The ask of him was to do the gravillist, oldest man version of the already gravillic character, though, it's like the fucking hardest, tallest order

Starting point is 02:31:34 in the world, you know? But also, how do you take such a velvety, smooth, like solid snake voice and be like, imagine this, but like old, like 80 like 80 years old like I don't know It's a very that's a difficult thing like well then you just had to say the guy from 24, you know, yeah But apparently But apparently he's gonna be at the the column going to in two weeks So I'll I'll tell you how he sounds

Starting point is 02:32:02 Will find out his normal voice sounds like a normal human man. I think yeah, well it's supposed to be just big boss right big boss is talking voices Just yeah, let's not have to put anything on for that Anyway, what else is I gonna talk about the only other thing I really did with my week note is I played Street Fighter 6 ah I swirved it back, it's shocking. Okay, well, can we hit the sponsors, though? Is that okay? Yeah, let's do that. Alright, I love sponsors.

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Starting point is 02:44:13 And no tanking of the, uh, appreciate it. Definitely appreciate that. Always, always good. Yeah, I'm glad I could not destroy your entire operation with one off letter. But yes, so you had a little bit more to say. I did. I had at least one or two more things to say. First of all, I did a, I did a, what you would call slopstream earlier this last week, right before Street Fighter 6.

Starting point is 02:44:46 I figured, hey, you know what? There's a lot of people trying to get into fighting games. There's a lot of people that are starting with Street Fighter 6. Maybe they don't know, stupid shit. Right? So we just watched a bunch of Coray gaming videos and want to shout out Coray gaming again with Gerald Lee, incredible, incredible work. Like, genuinely, I had a page, I was watching some of those, and work. Like, Jenny, I had a page I was watching some of those.

Starting point is 02:45:07 And she's like, oh, I understand what a frame is now. For some reason, the way he actually explains it makes it like perfectly understandable to like normal humans, not just fighting game, weirdo freaks like us. Yeah, it's because Gerald writes in modern controls. Yeah, it's cause it's cause Gerald writes in modern controls. Yeah, yeah. So it's easy to understand. We also took a look at, and this is,

Starting point is 02:45:32 this is one of my, someone recommended this video to me. It is one of my favorite videos I've ever seen about fighting games, especially after last week's diatribe about how I think Netherrealm games makes pieces of shit. God damn it, I was muted. We watched, say Jam going through, quote,

Starting point is 02:45:53 Injustice1 was a real video game that people played competitively for money, in which he just goes for 15 minutes about like, what an absolute piece of fucking shit. And Jimmy just won his... Dude, and just climbing like Batman corner dumpster combos. Superman cyborg. Dumpster go. Like Superman, Ibeams and cyborg zoning.

Starting point is 02:46:24 Okay, so Susie, here's the phrase dumpster combos and thanks I'm saying like they're trashy or they're like garbage. Yeah, no I mean on the stage that has a dumpster. Yeah, like In a bunch of characters have dumpster Infinite's in which they can throw the dumpster at people in the corner. And then when they try and get out, you can throw an air projectile and it knocks them back into the corner and you throw the unblockable dumpster at them again. And you can just lock them. It's unblockable? Yeah, yeah, sure is. Interact, there's an interactables button that grabs

Starting point is 02:47:01 things from the background or so and throws them. Yeah, in. I played both injustices, but I did not play them for very long for obvious reasons. And pick advantage, of course. Yeah, he goes in the pick advantage, yeah. And just like astonishing. Just the fucking unbelievable, and like showing off just a plethora of infinite or inescapable loops. And just like watching that right before hopping in a Street Fighter 6 was a really really good decision because boy boy you can

Starting point is 02:47:33 feel the difference you can feel the difference between a game in which you have to worry about pig or dumpster advantage and a game in which you're like man wonder if Honda has good buttons yeah Honda has good buttons. No, Honda is going to use the dumpster, so be careful. Terrible. Isn't everyone in injustice like a zoner with like a seven different projectiles? No, no, they're not. In fact, I-

Starting point is 02:47:57 Just the lines that you will see in videos, because those are the people that they use. I played the, the grappler in that game. I played Solomon Grundy, who was not a zoner but Because it's injustice like the the crazy shit that Solomon Grundy could do was certainly comparable to a lot of the broken shit in that game Corpse walk cancel into corpse walk But it was unfortunately there was nothing anyone could do against the way in Netherrealm zoning does its set up. And it didn't get a whole lot better over

Starting point is 02:48:37 time. Netherrealm zoning exists in a world in which you design the zoner and not one person asks even once. Well, what are you supposed to do to get in on this? Not even, doesn't even come up a single time. Well, eventually the person doing it will get bored and stop doing it, right? No. No, actually. No. No, actually, no. So the reason why I bring this up, specifically, Cori Gaming, is I've been playing a lot of Street Fighter 6, and to date, I guess I could call myself unretired as despite the fact that it's a new FF14 patch,

Starting point is 02:49:21 I forgot that it was a new FF14 patch and didn't do any of my weekly or daily shit just didn't do it because I'd rather play Street Fighter 6 when's the last time that happens wow never god damn G. Shit That's how powerful SF6's let's go capcom. Let's go, but let's, like, get in. I've been watching and rewatching like a good deal of Corey gaming videos, in particular, the ones and which he explains, like, frame advantage. And despite barely playing fighting games

Starting point is 02:49:57 for the past couple of years, like, pretty much since four. Like, the last time I was really into something I played four, I am a lot better than I used to be. And it's all, it's none of its knowledge and none of it is, none of it is, none of its knowledge and none of its execution. It's like mentality. Like, will you've played probably 100 million matches

Starting point is 02:50:24 against me over the years? I am finally Finally using geef's like low short Because it's fast and I'm sick of getting blown up in the corner because it's fast Correct something that like as far back I can remember as playing third strike or I'm like It's so annoying the kennel dash in and like short javelin that's so annoying and lame just do it just do the good just do the good one the moment of revolution it was a small one but like the from you going but I don't want to watch replays for what I

Starting point is 02:51:02 just want to play yeah to like, oh, I went back and I actually started looking at stuff. And it was like, that's indicating a desire to correct a mistake. But if the only thing you're doing is like, I just want to actively play, and I don't really care about the result until I can no longer bunga. Exactly.

Starting point is 02:51:23 And then as soon as that's done, I just wanna do it some more, and the outcome doesn't matter as much. Then that's fine. It's still super fun to keep hitting rematch, but don't expect the outcomes to change if you don't change what you're doing. If your approach remains the same, you'll continue to output the same result.

Starting point is 02:51:41 The desire to see that change is the first thing, yeah. There's also a different mindset change in which I placed high in platinum with Geef on my placement. And I have relatively steadily been teaching the game that placing me in four star platinum was a mistake. As, as people in four star platinum pushed me down to three and probably by the end of tonight push me down into two and instead of getting all pissy and shitty about my number go down I'm just like thinking like it'll be nice once I get to people that are more my level. Somewhere around, probably, flat two or flat one.

Starting point is 02:52:26 And then if I climb back up, it will be less gimmicky. Like, I'm at the point where I have to play honest, and I realize that playing honest sucks. Interesting. Interesting. And I don't want to play honest. I want to go to the fucking degenerate. No, no. No, if I know what you know,

Starting point is 02:52:45 then I don't care about your dishonest shit. What else you got? You know? It's a really, there's a part, there's a point you hit at where you're like, and it's only online too, right? Like, you'll, I mean, this, it's the way you had, like there's a mentality

Starting point is 02:52:59 you go into in a bracket where in early pools, you don't know what the fuck is gonna happen on round one. It's literally everybody and anybody. The later you are in a bracket where in early pools, you don't know what the fuck is gonna happen on round one. It's literally everybody and anybody. The later you are in a bracket, you know how, you can expect somebody might play, but that level of like, okay, I'm not gonna give you an ounce of respect until you show me otherwise.

Starting point is 02:53:18 Do I have to treat you like you understand what you're doing? No, then okay, I don't care, right? But do you have these little moments where you go, oh fuck, okay, he's every time I jumped, he checked it. Every time I went in, they checked it. They stopped what I was doing. They waited for me to do so, they know it like,

Starting point is 02:53:35 they're like, okay, okay, stop, right? That round one was bad, and that shows that they have control and that they know what they're doing, and it's not mindless, you need to make an adjustment, you know. And people who don't have that little moment between round one and round two, that little pause of like, oh, I need to change what I'm doing, will find the same thing happens and they steam roll into a loss and go, God damn it, what happened.

Starting point is 02:53:58 So I had the mental switch between the mindsets a couple nights ago on stream in which my brain went I didn't say this out loud because it's extra it's extra shitbag grabbler nonsense but my brain went from you know he's got to drop this this punish combo eventually he's got to make a mistake and then I'm gonna grab him when he drops combo because everything he always drops the combo eventually spin and mash Yeah, I'm gonna drop one of these jabs dude. He's gonna drop one of these jabs and then I And at some point like I stream for really long periods at some point I streamed for really long periods. At some point, I'm like hour seven and a half.

Starting point is 02:54:46 I'm like, I don't think these DJ or J.D. or Chumley players are gonna drop these fucking combos. Yes. I think, yes. I don't think they're gonna just drop these fucking jab into special combos that are gonna happen. But then you drop it all. And about them not dropping. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, The second I see you do that on my drop or when someone is like someone at that someone at a level that's playing for real sees that don't fuck me.

Starting point is 02:55:33 Um, the next time they start doing strings on you, they start dropping on purpose and then you burn your stupid fucking three bars on nothing while they're in the air watching you with. Well, okay. That literally happened to me yesterday, by the way. Like, nightcare shit. You give them that information and then they fucking exploit it because they know, oh, while this guy's getting hit, he's doing an autopilot of just grab if he fucks up, just grab if he fucks up. So you can exploit that shit. I got, uh, I also got into a situation that helped this mindset of I played, I said I played

Starting point is 02:56:11 like a 50 game set against DJ, uh, guy from Honduras apparently. Great matches, excellent, excellent connection. And DJ's fake upkick leads to a really nasty crossup and I always have been, I got to go over this long series of sets in which he would just do it and do it and do it and do it and do it and I'm like, I guess I have to just figure out what the button is here or the back dash or or the jump back, or whatever. And then I didn't figure it out. Someone had to tell me what it was

Starting point is 02:56:53 to escape jump back in jab. Mm. So that, what you're talking about, is a nerfed version of what it used to be. So before, DJ, because DJ has a button, which is down and kicking the air, and it does the knee, right? Yeah.

Starting point is 02:57:12 So what he could do back in Super Street Fighter IV is he could jump at you from the same place, and usually the way that you can tell if something's going to cross you up or not is based on where they are in the air and where they jump from, if you've seen the setup before and then like you go, oh, I know he's going to land behind me. I've seen the setup. I can tell the distance.

Starting point is 02:57:34 I can judge it. He had a thing where he could jump from the exact same place and whether he chose to do that knee or a different button, it would land in front or behind you. Which meant that until the button itself happened you did not know which side it was gonna be on making it a completely unstoppable 50-50 on every one of those jumps. That was the identical spacing. He could then combo into a sweep because he has two sweeps, the right crouching medium knocks you down as well as a slide with the heavy and then he could position himself to do it to you again. So DJ's strength was jumping and doing a 50-50 knocking you down and then doing it again. And it was super strong,

Starting point is 02:58:17 but the most boring shit in the world. So the fact that they spruced him up and made him this wild kind of, you know, just cool, crazy combo guy is a huge step up because he can do all these cool things and it's not the most boring shit ever, but also now he has to do it off of that canceled upkick, right, which is a little more telegraphed than the same jump arc every time. So you're getting the improved version of that situation. It took somebody in the improved version of that situation. It took somebody in the chat to be like, hey dumb shit do this for me to fix it, but eh, happened. I guess I would have eventually figured it out. But yeah, no, for like genuinely,

Starting point is 02:58:56 I have to give a shout out to again, Gerald Acory Gaming, because despite the fact that I've been playing fighting games since I was like eight years old, it was only by like really thinking about the way his content was presented in those videos that actually helped me change the way I perceived the way I was playing that led to good change. That's awesome. That's really cool because it's very possible that there's people who will hit that point but not find it fun to make the change so you don't really necessarily embrace that possibility. Well, no, part of me is gonna like grab Ken and go fucking bullshit at the fuck up on bronze. Which thank God, character specific fucking rankings.

Starting point is 02:59:47 So back, oh my God. I'm curious, so by feeling that over placement, then do you see, like did you, okay, like the ratio that you had in the placement matches, and then the ratio that you had afterwards, like how was that? I won eight out of 10 of my placement matches after selecting Intermediate,

Starting point is 03:00:10 which put me into high plat, put me at plat four, and now my matches are, I lose 60, 70% of them. Okay, okay. And I was losing 80% when I was in plat four. Now that I'm in plat three, I'm losing about 60-70% And ideally in platform 2, I would be losing 50% and then I'll stay there for a while until I either become much worse or improve somehow. Okay, because things shake out very differently in the opening hours of a new fighting game on the rank, you know?

Starting point is 03:00:43 Like you'll see the gulf between the different placements grow and such. But, you know, generally, platform into diamond means you're playing pretty flawless round to round play. You're not, what's going to make you win is having better mind games, having better setups, and having better unexpected tech. But yeah, the moment to moment touches are full optimized. You know? It was very interesting because like I played gold players and silver players in my placement

Starting point is 03:01:20 and also at the battle cabs. And what's fascinating about the way the ranking system works. First of all, hey, this is kind of counterintuitive, but if you're brand new to fighting games and you're like scared of Street Fighter 6, play ranked because it will probably put you in with other trash newbies like you. Whereas if you go sit at random

Starting point is 03:01:41 cabs in the battle hub, those people are probably killers. They're probably going to get you. Like rank yourself into the garbage people on novice. Well, you can also check the, before you sit down, you can check whoever's there, and it'll tell you what their rank is and stuff. And it'll say similar skill levels to you.

Starting point is 03:02:02 Or if they're slightly higher, it'll say similar skill level, you. Or if they're like slightly higher, it'll say similar skill level, flexible. So yeah, so in my experience, the people in the rooms are usually kind of more rando and lower in skill. Ranked will get you a challenge pretty much, you know, most of the time. You'll see some people that are like, you got here, but you're making more mistakes than someone in this rank usually makes or so. Yeah. But like, the fact that it asks you off the bat to go, hey, just being honest, where do you think you're at?

Starting point is 03:02:34 Is huge, right? DNF dual did that, and it's a wonderful thing to just be like, yeah, man, if you are a beginner, start in beginner. If you're, if you think you're like, no, no, no, I know what I'm kind of doing. I think I'm better than I am, but maybe I'm not. It'll be like, all right, we'll judge you accordingly, you know?

Starting point is 03:02:49 But that opening question is a really great system. And like, don't try to, you know, be honest about it really, because it'll affect how much of a good or bad time you have, you know? What was fascinating to me going through these and playing all these matches was the different ranks have like different like overall mentalities and I feel like the middle of platinum and below it felt like I could get away with me and my opponent going I'm going to do my bullshit and then you're going to do your bullshit and we'll just see we'll just see how that

Starting point is 03:03:24 works out. I don't know how to deal with your crap if you get your bullshit. And we'll just see how that works out. I don't know how to deal with your crap, if you get your crap going, and you don't know how to deal with my crap if I get my crap going. So we'll just see who starts their game plan faster. But what I was in high platinum, like they knew exactly what the fuck I was trying to do.

Starting point is 03:03:41 And I didn't know what the fuck they were doing. Yep, so that was pretty good. Yes. Yep, it's like, I know what to do and I didn't know what the fuck they were doing. Yep, so that was pretty much the side. Yep, it's like I know what I do well. Did you look into what I do well? No, well, I'm winning this one because I did the homework on you, you know. And you're at that point, especially, well, master and such, to diamond and so on, where you're just like, okay, this is where you would be out of pools in a bracket.

Starting point is 03:04:05 You'd be going into semi-finals, or you'd be going into, you know, the like basically exiting that initial point of, we've done the knowledge check and everyone here has looked into and knows the match-up for every other character. If I see you, I know what you're trying to do to me. If I'm just thinking only about what I'm trying to do and getting my game plan off with zero, zero respect to

Starting point is 03:04:29 the person I'm fighting, there's a hard wall you cannot go past. I don't know if it's it's tier or mentality, but it's been fascinating to see as I go from four to three to probably two, how JPPs just disappeared and how Zangiefs just showed up on mass as soon as I got to Plat 3. Interesting. Interesting. I mean that is also a result of the knowledge check which is basically characters which break the rules of Street Fighter to do their own thing. Boy does JP break the fucking rules of Street. Right, and this is in every genre, in every fighting game, there's a character or two or three, sometimes many,

Starting point is 03:05:12 where there's like, yeah, if you don't know how to fight, I don't know, Axel. On Axel's terms, it's not the same as fighting other characters in that game, you know? And so this is what you get from Geef, or if you try to treat Geef like everybody else You're gonna fucking feel it. Yeah And this like exact thing of like oh shit, okay I'm gonna lose to every Geef until I can

Starting point is 03:05:40 Treat him the way he forces me to play against him and not like everybody else Treat him the way he forces me to play against him and not like everybody else This is why I'm so obsessed with the lab. This is why I spend so much time in the lab is because The thing where I'm like I know all my combos and I feel good about what I want to do But I don't know what I'm fighting against and I can't just hope Improvising will win over the long term means I have to go spend that time in practice. And it's not what somebody who's just like, I just wanna press buttons and have fun, wants to hear, but as someone who's like,

Starting point is 03:06:15 I do wanna correct my mistakes, it's like you then you have to go look into it. You can't expect the outcomes to change otherwise. It's fucking fascinating though. You breaking it down this way because you've been on these games for fucking forever like I have But I've never had the right. I've never had well. No, not the right. It's a different mindset I'm not gonna say the people who just want to log on to press buttons are wrong It's to be in a lot of people to want to go on to press but it's not

Starting point is 03:06:39 But then you're gonna you're gonna discover the new challenge which is And this is what you hear. Every time I'm playing and you hear me talking to myself, talking shit and going like, God damn it, fuck, what the idiot, all that shit that I do is because I'm like, you labbed this, you know the answer. Now you're having a hard time putting it into practice. It's not, I didn't know what that was

Starting point is 03:07:02 and I didn't see it coming. When you see me laugh and go oh what? Yo, he can do that. Oh, yeah, we're okay fair. Yeah, right? That's me being like absolutely I'm I'm at the mercy of the shit. I didn't know the times I get But like I get down on myself and you hear that shit It's like you knew that you practiced it you just couldn't apply it yet because the third step is Now you've practiced it now. just couldn't apply it yet, because the third step is, now you've practiced it, now you know what's coming,

Starting point is 03:07:27 how do I implement it in live matches? And that takes another fucking leap in skill that you're gonna find, you know? So far, the only thing that makes me really sad, like sad, is give mirror matches in which they do my dishonest bullshit to me and I fall for it and I'm like I should really know better. I have done that stupid, stupid medium knee

Starting point is 03:07:57 into, into, into RSPD or RSPD, like a million goddamn times. How come I fell for this? Ah, you know what, it really annoys me when, because I play Mano, and I do like a little jump in and then like pull them to me and then grapple, and I do that like, maybe two times in a row without thinking.

Starting point is 03:08:21 Yeah. And I noticed that they've never done that and then they start doing that to me. I literally just taught them how to do my bullshit. That's so rough. I know that. I've seen that too and that feels so bad. You're like, oh.

Starting point is 03:08:39 Yes. So, so, I mean, God, I mean God I I Sorry, I love I love this shit. I love this shit like so when we were doing our we're doing our our session right we're playing so I've sent this before but like Reggie is a fucking beast He's insanely good and insanely really really good and he plays fucking optimally and like he goes home And he knows how to lab shit in the smart way and comes back and puts it into practice, right? and I would like bash my head against things and like not

Starting point is 03:09:16 Figure out for at least like 10 games what is happening? And a lot of it is pattern recognition because he knows how I play a bunch and I know how he plays. So like there's a little bit of like I'm fighting against woolly right now, but then he'll switch back to like no, I'll fight your character. And you'll see that like he's just right. So there's a moment that I had in the stream where I was like, okay, let me show you guys what happens.

Starting point is 03:09:41 IRL, you know, if we're at a local or something and whatever. And it's like we have to break came back and it's like, let's talk about that set, you What happens? IRL, if we're at a local or something and whatever. And it's like, we have to break, came back and it's like, let's talk about that set. And those little moments of like, stop, digest it for a second, process why I just got cleaned the fuck up. Rinseed, I think it was like seven to like 20, you know, initially or something and I was like,

Starting point is 03:10:02 okay, what am I losing to here? I don't have time to go back and rewatch these matches right now, but mentally that's a lot of matches Right, but mentally what am I losing to and then I'm like okay, I'm losing With with punishes and footsies Every time I land my combo I'm dropping some because I'm not used to it yet But I'm otherwise getting damage from it and he's getting his damage consistently on me. But when I walk up to him, he waits for me to try to clip him with a button because I think he's in range and he just walks a little bit further back from that and punishes me for it. Yeah. Right. Trash with punishes, man.

Starting point is 03:10:37 It's too mungus for you, like you must master that and and the old Street Fighter games had something called proximity blocking Which is if I'm right next to you, but not within range of touching you and I throw out a button you start blocking while you're standing in front of me automatically right so you'll block the air for a Couple of feet a couple of steps in front of me. And then when you start backing out out of a certain range, you can just move freely again. But I can, I watch you blocking the air and I can stop you for moving. And that's a big part of what Street Fighter feels like.

Starting point is 03:11:16 The reason why Street Fighter feels slower and more deliberate and like, footsees is grounded is a big part of that is this thing I'm describing proximity blocking You can make someone stop moving by doing an action and they're gonna have to do this and just like and then you slow it down Street Fighter 6 has gotten rid of that which means if I don't touch you with what I'm pressing you just continue walking back forever Mm-hmm and because of that something that comes low is And because of that, something that comes low is that reaches out pretty far. It's much easier for him to dance just out of the range

Starting point is 03:11:51 where I thought he would get hit a second ago, but now he's not there anymore. And because he's reacting better than I am, he's doing his best button, getting a punish counter, doing 30% of my life, you know. That little system, that little exchange, that little moment right there, every win is made up of three or four of those small things.

Starting point is 03:12:12 And I recognized this is what I need to improve in the set. And then we came back from talking about it and me recognizing that and going like, all right, I'm paying way more attention to this part of the game now. I started doing a bit better, I mean, not by much, because he's still fucking great. But I started winning a little bit more

Starting point is 03:12:30 in those neutral exchanges, but the sacrifices, I can't pay attention to his jump-ins as well anymore, because I'm too fucking focused on this grounded footsie shit right in front of me, and I have to take my processor and decrease the anti-air.exe amount, you know, to focus on more on footsies.exe. And this is, you know, and you're like, oh god damn it, okay, and everything in this game requires you to like, which one do I have to run against you? Okay, I'm

Starting point is 03:13:01 gonna shut down my ability to react to drive impacts for the next 30 seconds because I'm too focused on the other shit that I need to right now, you know? It's all that game of like deprioritizing one thing you're thinking of and putting another one up there because you just lost to that a bunch in a row. I hope I'm not just rambling on and I hope this makes sense. No, no, I get it. I've been going through that myself. The mental stack is what it's called. You know, I'm dealing with people who, and like, you know, since I'm a little more trash or maybe I'm not, I don't know, but like, I'll get in the situation of like, oh yeah, drive impact. I can drive impact this guy.

Starting point is 03:13:39 I can drive impact this guy in reaction until he starts doing some bullshit that that requires me to pay attention to something other than his jump-ins or his his long-reach normals and now I can't drive act him on reaction anymore because I'm thinking about his tick throw bullshit and now he throws a drive impact out and hits me because I'm thinking about tick throws. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This game knows that you can only put so much attention to so many things at once, and it's designed to have too many things to juggle, you know, and when you have level 3, I have to now add the fact that your fucking level 3 can come out at any second into the equation as well, and be a little bit more scared of that. So now, right before, right as soon as you get that, I'm like, okay, there's like 18 fucking things to be worried about right now.

Starting point is 03:14:30 If you could see all the different task manager bars in my brain, they're doing this. You know, right in that level three moment. And then it's like, okay, he jumped. You know, and that is like, that's such a great thing because a game that is not as good as this will not have that variety. It'll be solved. You'll be like, I need to only think about this,

Starting point is 03:14:56 this and that. Yeah, I'm playing Lex Luthor, so all I gotta do is push them in the corner and just zone all day. And it's preset, and you just gotta auto play, auto pilot it, you know? And then that stops being fun, that stops being engaging.

Starting point is 03:15:08 But everything in this game, the way there's a uniqueness to everyone's, like there's a unique thing across the design where a lot of characters will have either press a button into a Hadooken where, or a special move, where there's a whole in between the button and the special that you can interrupt me or it'll be at the end. And so they can use different strengths to put that gap somewhere, but you know there's

Starting point is 03:15:36 a hole there. You're just not sure which one it is, you know. And that wasn't always the case in previous games, but here it's like, no, you know for sure if something feels like it's locking you down It's because the vulnerability is in a different place for the more you thought you think it might be It's amazing amazing Design on that like small in-depth level that is making this game feel so good and like I love getting into that my new ship because like it's fucking It's fucking, you can recognize

Starting point is 03:16:07 it. You can see it here right away. And if you want to... It's very cool using the mental stack against someone. When you realize they're not using theirs, you know? Because I've had, in my games that I've had, I've noticed that a lot of people forget level 3 supers because they're just too busy thinking about jumping in and drive impact and drive rushing, like them drive rushing at me, you know, like that kind of thing. Like I had a match with a DJ where we just went back and forth rematching each other and for the first two games, I kept doing my bullshit

Starting point is 03:16:46 where I would jump in, smack, smack, command grab. And eventually he got used to that. So on the third game, I would try it and then he would punish it, or whatever. He'd just block or whatever, and then punish, or sweep me as soon as my feet touched the ground. So what I did was, like I got him at like a point where he was in the corner, like on the left side

Starting point is 03:17:09 of the screen, and I was a little, a little far away, just a little far away, but I kept doing this thing, and it tricked him every single time, where I would just jump straight off, like neutral jump. And then I would see him back up, and then as soon as I touched the ground I would do her low DeGaJ which is like she just slides across the ground slide. Yeah

Starting point is 03:17:30 And it would just it would get him every time and then I would do a thing another bullshit that you guys were talking about where it's like an infinite kind of like not not infinite but like a loop where you can kind of like just drop him over and over again and it was like wow I can't believe I just like Destroyed this man's mind by just jumping straight up What you did is called conditioning Yeah, I conditioned him you can mission him to do something every time you did something and then pull the fucking rug out You know it's it's the best literally yep yep the fucking rug out, you know? It's the best. Literally.

Starting point is 03:18:04 Yep, yep. Oh fuck, I had a thought that just escaped me. Oh yes, you guys both play grapplers. So, here is a fucking powerful thing to think about as you go on your way through ranked and you're fighting people and you fight opponents that are really good, right? way through ranked and you're fighting people and you fight opponents that are really good, right? The strongest grapplers in terms of like competitive play and stuff and whatnot, they're not

Starting point is 03:18:33 a threat because the grab does so much damage. They're a threat because everyone is afraid of the grab and the implication makes people act in predictable ways. Really important to consider the difference. If I always get grabbed and it sucks, I don't know anything about Zangief, I'm just going to eat it. If I know that Zangief is always trying to grab me, I'm always going to be holding up. If I know Manon is constantly trying to grab me, I'm always going to be holding up. If I know Manon is constantly trying to grab me, I'm always holding up. And if someone is always holding up, you can start fucking them up in really predictable ways because that fear makes them more predictable. The strength of a grappler, yeah. The strength of a grappler is forcing the person to play more predictably by being afraid of

Starting point is 03:19:20 that situation. So for example, for Geef, I know for a fact that I can force people to jump eventually. And once that's happening, he has his RSPD, one inch off the ground. And now they're in the same situation otherwise. And I know for men, oh, if you know they're gonna jump, you can do the EX kick, I forget the name of it. But that combos directly into the hit version of her metal gain.

Starting point is 03:19:44 Hmm, yep, you can do that. You can do the ground herd to hit anti-air that pulls them back to the ground as well. Totally. And so this is what the situation is. And for Marissa, it's similar. But I'm still trying to figure it out. We were lagging it on in mid-match, actually, is like, I would hit Reggie with a Scootum.

Starting point is 03:20:01 And then next, I would go because you can... There's a window of time after you land a Scootum and then next I would go because you can, there's a window of time after you land the Scootum where you can continue to do Scootum action, which is like either the double swing, the sweep or the grab. And so if he's holding up at that point, he's trying to avoid the big damaging grab and I'm like, great, what's the next layer of this? What I know he's about to jump, you know? Yeah, that's that's a huge thing that you're gonna Need to figure out because you watch again like the snake eyes one of the best fucking gifts ever I should imagine I'm watching a snake eyes match right now

Starting point is 03:20:37 Snake eyes is always threatening without the grab. He's fucking you very few threatening without the grab. He's fucking very few. He fucks everyone up because they're so afraid of it, but he gets insanely good at not using it. And that is his signature thing. And like he wins so much because everyone is like, but he can grab me. He's gonna do it eventually.

Starting point is 03:21:02 And he's like, I don't give a fuck dude. I'll fuck you up by buttons. I'll fuck you up with everything else. I'll know so much more about this character and all the things they can do without that grab that what I want to. I'm gonna take it. But you're just that fear is a debuff that never goes away against him, you know. That shows you the strength of it, man. Yeah, you can really condition people like as a grappler with like normals, and then they just do some really dumb shit. Yeah, I'm going to like walk right up to you.

Starting point is 03:21:34 And it's like, why are you walking right up to me? I'm just going to grab you now. Like, yeah. Okay. It, you know, there was a really like, or like simple thought, early on in Street Fighter IV, when I was just like man I always liked black eyes pretty good with them back in super turbo and stuff But when you're fighting an army of Ken's in reuse. I'm just like, you know what? You know what fuck your Hadooken. I'm sliding under it. What else do you got?

Starting point is 03:21:59 You know and by the end of round one Sometimes the answer was actually I don't know. I didn't think this through I don't have anything else I might just do a hodokin again, you know But it's it's a it's a nice little thing that is like okay We have to change this up a little bit and then you know you get a little bit further You fight better people and better players are now doing fake hodokins that are like actually I'm just gonna like press a button and crouch low and if you slid to nothing now you die you know. So like there's these little like moments

Starting point is 03:22:30 of like oh the conditioning alright it's been set what is your response and then your response now gets me killed so I have to as a responsible blank a player not slide as much anymore which then lets you start doing more fucking headokins. You know, and we play the goddamn game of Yomi layer one, two, and three. It's such a fucking, it's the best. All right, all right, we're going. Do you find your sex is good? I don't know if you guys know that.

Starting point is 03:22:57 Yeah, so I feel confident in saying that Street Fighter 6 has proved that fighting games are okay. Not a net negative. Not anymore. Now that Street Fighter 6 fixed all that shit, congrats. It took a long time. And it took like, I feel like Street Fighter 6 really exposes a lot of the way that I was thinking about it. Like, why did I love fighting games?

Starting point is 03:23:22 I loved fighting games because I was in a point in my life in which easy access to tons of matches was available. Either by going to see my friends or going to a communal space where I could just do a shit ton of matches. The instant that stopped being a reality and the internet had to pick up that slack, well the internet fucking couldn't. Because everything played like dog shit online. And now it can. So fucking yeah, it also didn't help that like for years the people that made these games just refuse to make the internet good. And the fans fixed it and then they officially were like no. Oh, though. Yeah, no, I fucking, I cannot wait for the day when we don't have to talk about it anymore.

Starting point is 03:24:18 I can't wait till we, it's just not even a subject. But I feel like we're on the path. We're almost there. Anyway, so over Twitch.tv slash path stairs at this week, it is a smaller week. I'll be doing a react stream on Friday, but Wednesday and Thursday is just going to be Street Fighter World Tour mixed with matches. That's it. Can I complain about something in Street Fighter 6? Yeah, of course.

Starting point is 03:24:46 That is a region-based. So I'm from Brooklyn, New York. And a very common thing that we used to say was, yo, that's OD. OD! And if you guys watch any pro players who are from New York, let's go. In fact, still say that's OD. So I personally, and I know a lot of like L.I. Joe and Justin Wong, because I've spoken to them very annoyed that EX is now called OD.

Starting point is 03:25:18 So now it's like, yo, that OD was OD. So it is a deliberate choice. I am so dead certain that the choice to not EX has been a thing for years, but the design of turning overdrive into the word for it, because OD has, like overdone is kind of what some people say, but they don't, but it might be other thing. It's just OD, you know?

Starting point is 03:25:45 But it's- It's OD. It is absolutely an acknowledging of that and turning it into a mechanic where it's like, yeah, you did the OD version of a normal thing. That was cracked, that was fucked up, you know? Yeah. Dead ass.

Starting point is 03:25:58 When I first started playing it, I was like, is this what they're doing right now? Like, we got the hip hop music, we got the Greedy Street levels. Like, is it OD they're doing right now? Like, we got the hip hop music, we got the Greedy Street levels. Like, is it OD? Is it just OD? What's your name? It's absolutely OD.

Starting point is 03:26:12 That OD was OD. It's yeah, I'm super, I'm, because EX has been such a legacy thing. You don't drop it for no reason. And I think they dropped it because of fucking Brooklyn.lyn i think that's exactly what i think so to yeah uh... man uh...

Starting point is 03:26:31 okay so uh... let's check out the news but about about the bit about the but uh... the fucking news what's going on i don't start with some street five to six news uh... million damn that's o d Let's start with some Sri Phat of six news Damn that's OD That's OD Highest player count on steam and probably on every other console for fighting game literally ever

Starting point is 03:26:57 I mean for sure doesn't surprise me right Hey, so Pat remember when we talked about like the things that games could do to help you get better and I was I was lab shot labbing lab shopping. The idea of like here's the things you didn't do here's what you ate here's what you lost to let's tell you about it. Right? Fividly remember that conversation because it was a great idea. So, we're not there yet, but when you go to your replay channel, the replays that are recommended are the matchup videos that you as your character just lost to, but it's showing you a player that plays your character, winning against who you just lost to. So you're saying that if I went to recommended replays in 3fighter 6, I would see a bunch

Starting point is 03:27:53 of Zangief beats JP videos available to me, because boy, do I lose that match up? Fucking hard, every time. It shows you at your approximate skill level, a player of that character winning what you lost. Yes. How do they develop that algorithm? Like how? So it's actually, it's in like,

Starting point is 03:28:17 strive and stuff as well, not the recommended, the reds recommended replace, but like that is simply like you can search for input character one, input character two, win state on, win state off. And if this is what occurred, just invert the win states and put that in a recommended replay according to your ranking.

Starting point is 03:28:35 And it's not a guarantee that you're going to see someone who is good doing real tech that works that is going to win, but you're going to see, you might. You'll see what someone at your skill level we assume is going to be winning against when they fight. And yeah, JP versus Geef is probably approaching fucking whatever number. It feels like the hell else has got to do. Yeah, you want to call it 7-3 you want to you know We can we can sit there, but we'll find out

Starting point is 03:29:07 But this is all but just as they know as we get closer to this feature It's like yeah the recommended replays are actually recommending shit that will hopefully let you learn something about what just happened So keep that in mind Okay, I will Now So keep that in mind. Okay. I will. Now, perhaps if he went to his recent replays, Yuji Naka might see a replay of him not getting potentially sentenced to two years and six months in jail. Oh no! What would the replay even be? Just everyone else on the planet? Making Bal and Wonder World without insider trading actually is what would happen. It would be him not fucking with the money. So him

Starting point is 03:30:03 not freaking erasing someone from a group photo and posting it publicly as if everything's fine. Like zahand, like fucking just like complete photoshopped out damn. Yeah. So there was some erroneous reporting with the story though. So the story was saying people were saying that he's been sentenced and he hasn't yet. It's that prosecutors in the insider trading trial have demanded a sentence of two and a half years and a fine of up to 1.2 million U.S. But his defense is trying to reduce the fine in the sentence.

Starting point is 03:30:40 The final decision will be made on July 7th. So not confirmed yet. Exhibit A, Balon Wonder World. 100 years. Jesus Christ. So, one million years. When we talk about the bullshit and things that the clown shoes moments that have happened

Starting point is 03:30:57 in the industry, I don't know that any of them have resulted in straight up jail time for the people involved. I mean, in most cases, especially with just the fucking creepy sexual assault shit and whatnot, you get to just get an embarrassing story written about you and then people shuffle around and then nothing happens. You might get fired, but you might pop up somewhere else, who the fuck knows, whatever. But it's kind of wild that just like the closest that anything consequential might occur is like this financial situation in Japan with insider

Starting point is 03:31:38 trading where like actual jail time is going to hit somebody if this actually goes down. Well, yeah, because those are times against individuals. This is a crime against rich people's money. Of course, the difference couldn't be more. That's when it's a real problem. That's when it's a real problem. Yeah, the state, the state ain't gonna let you fuck up the count.

Starting point is 03:32:03 So, no, I'm just trying to think back, and I'm like, has there been any other, like, you know, creator, controversy, or if so, where like, it was like, yeah, and here's the fucking prison sentence, and I'm like, I don't think so, you know? The only thing I can think of, and it was one of the devs on the Silicon Knights' new company when they were doing the kickstarter

Starting point is 03:32:26 for the eternal darkness remake one of the the devs on that project went to jail over like child pornography charges oh uh Dennis night stuff it wasn't Dennis die I could say else on the project okay okay but I kind of killed that. I remember that. It started pretty bad. Yeah. I remember that shit show. It's like what? What? I mean, there were going to make a sequel, remake. What? Okay. I remember there was a shit show before that or not even or centered around that part of it. Jesus. Yeah. Oh, the people are making a change Cage David Cage David Cage get in trouble for all that shit, but he didn't go to jail That's possible to hire new people no no and and the cost for writing a bad story Should not be jail time, but maybe it should but maybe it should as I said it I didn't believe it

Starting point is 03:33:21 Yeah, like as you're saying and you're like we are saying maybe they said it I it. I didn't. Yeah, it came out of my mouth, but before the sentence ended, I was already on the other side. So here, who knows? Anyway, no. So that's a bit wild. But in that same vein, hey, did you know that that Blizzard is considering writing more inclusivity towards LGBTQ stories and trans inclusivity and all kinds of things like that? They're considering it. They're considering it. Wow. Outside the same day that hot like was like nothing bad ever happened your

Starting point is 03:34:07 All the button hit the button a what Farrah we're talking about soldier 76 right now. What are you talking about say the 29 of those reports were Substantiated even by blizzards internal Excuse me, but that has nothing to do with Baptiste. You know, I really think, I really think that- Did you guys know that Tracer is gay?

Starting point is 03:34:36 Did you know that? I want to say, um, who said it? If somebody on my, I was on one of my mutuals, I believe it's,'s yeah so Chris Wolfheart formerly at Mr. Fields wild ride summed up this thing perfectly it's like so Blizzard removed every single thing that could possibly ever tell a story in Overwatch so all of this shit is just a press release saying that so and so is gay or has autism and demanding brownie points.

Starting point is 03:35:09 Like is there ever gonna be like a story mission in which Tracer even gets a phone call from her girlfriend? No, of course not. I mean, press release. Well, there is that Christmas comic, right? And then we can ramp up and escalate as needed. It's pride. We're gonna fucking do some pride stuff going on. Don't worry about the other story that comes out whatever that might be. Dear God, don't forget it. Don't read it. That's the part that

Starting point is 03:35:37 there was. So the second, well, yeah, the thing is, of course, we know that the big one is, if it's Bobby's involved, it's gonna be the main story. So yeah, obviously that story dropped at the same time. But no, you can go to the things that are not the head of the company. You can take a look at this kind of wild one that was just like a former wow dev wrote some script that had jokes that were basically corporate greed stuff because there was a venture company loot goblin in wow.

Starting point is 03:36:12 Yeah, the goblins and water to warcraft are greedy. They're greedy and evil. They love evil greed. And so the script involved making a bunch of jokes that went over the top and referenced corporate speak and that type of shit, go in another record quarter for revenue and I've come in below estimates and let's just call it a cost of living adjustment. You know, no profit sharing, Yadda Yada, but then with those jokes that were written

Starting point is 03:36:43 as according to the writer Eric Covington who was just like going over the top with it Fiction becomes reality because he then gets fired Because the company thinks that he's making those jokes at their expense When he was deliberately trying to be as exaggerated and as ridiculous as possible, but because it's fucking blizzard, there is no limit. They were literally like, why are you making fun of us? What? And he's like, I wasn't, but what? And thanks for the confession. And that was it. And he got let go after nine years of working there.

Starting point is 03:37:22 Like you're sitting around going, man, people who rage,age, quit, and fighting games are fucking pieces of shit. And some guy you don't know from the crowd goes, why do you gotta make fun of me like that? Like what the fuck, dude, I'm not talking about you. Are you a piece of shit? It sounds like you're telling everyone that you're a massive piece of shit. I mean, it is the ultimate self-report.

Starting point is 03:37:42 It's kind of nuts. Actually, there it was. Company was like, hey, what are you fucking, what's that shit you talking down there? And it's like, oh, you mean the exaggerated evil fucking monster? That's, what? Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 03:38:00 So. That is a perfect story, but also shitty because someone lost their job, but just God like how stupid do you have to be like to be like a higher up? To not understand unbelievable like what? It's like yeah, you're fired. Why for calling us out? What's me even calling you out? It's like, yeah, I wasn't though. Pack up your stuff.

Starting point is 03:38:21 It's like, yep, I wasn't. No. Pack up your stuff. And especially that stuff about, well, it's like, it's like, if, you know, like, wherever they plan to go, if that got covered by the insane in-game content, you know? And it's like, who, like, why'd you see our emails? What you, what you fucking, what you writing out there?

Starting point is 03:38:42 Um, anyways, so, uh oh blizzard. Oh blizzard Aren't they the same company correct me if I'm wrong where the LGBT characters are not LGBT in certain regions of this world Oh content for Overwatch 2 is banned in the countries in which that shit would be banned so so pride without the pride? Well, when you have no... Tracer goes back in the closet. It's region locked, you see. It's region locked representation.

Starting point is 03:39:16 You got to make sure that you're standing in the right place for that to apply. I love, I love when a gigantic corporation determines representation, my representation. Thank you, thank you. Oh, sorry, I can't say this right now, because you know. It's kind of amazing, but it's a special, like there's always that like discussion, right? Where you're like, okay, you know,

Starting point is 03:39:40 a corpo fucking rainbow capitalism, right? Let's see how you go for it this time and how performative is it gonna be? And the idea, you can go, you can have a discussion and honest one about like, is it better for them to like, do nothing versus even acknowledging it at all and so on, right? This is, and I've seen people go on about this in ways and like, that's fun, right?

Starting point is 03:40:02 But the version of it that keeps happening every single fucking week because I write the docket and see it pop up is the blizzard. Only in case of emergency, break out the rainbow logo. Like that's the part where it's like, you couldn't look anymore guilty. And you think the playbook still works

Starting point is 03:40:23 and you haven't caught on to the part where everyone else is caught on So they just keep doing it and they probably won't catch on for years And it's like the moment anything gets announced all you have to do is go all right Google news alerts What else got fucking blizzard in the titles today? You know 100% of the time, it works every time. Hey, I watch two fans. If you live in a region of the world in which Blizzard has locked pride content,

Starting point is 03:40:54 you can use ExpressVPN to read unlock your favorite gay characters. Oh God, that relationship available as long as you use this VPN Yeah, yeah, yeah Sodom so dumb hey hey hey guys. Hey get fin off that poster get fin off that poster you put in Chinese lettering on that poster Get fin the fuck off that poster Yeah

Starting point is 03:41:31 Dude it hasn't happened too many times, but I do love when the company that makes a gay character is like No, you guys just don't get the game. Sorry like we're not releasing it and you're part of the world Because we're not gonna compromise our shit Which might be in a game coming up by the way. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's fun Which might be in a game coming up, by the way. Oh yeah, oh that's fun. You know there's nothing more convenient than like a... There's nothing more convenient than like a kiss that like practically has the insert clipping beginning folder like in the shot and marker.

Starting point is 03:42:02 Oh you mean Disney's first gay kiss whichever first gay kiss we're talking about you know like you'll see like the real missing like a net of flips and then you'll see the end and then the real will go again and you'll just see the exact moment you can fucking the fucking the screen just goes black for a second and it's like that's the black yeah I did back in yay! on camera blinked man come on cut the black

Starting point is 03:42:34 I love it oh shit dude yeah it's just it's never anyway it's never been less fucking embarrassing um all right uh that being said It's never been less fucking embarrassing. Alright. That being said, I don't know what the fuck to make of this, but like, apparently, according to co-director Motomo Toriyama of Final Fantasy 7R to LiBuff. Do I need to play Final Fantasy 7 remake to enjoy Final Fantasy 7 rebirth? No, we have made preparations

Starting point is 03:43:18 so that players who did not get a chance to play the first game. Can fully enjoy Final Fantasy VII rebirth. I highly fucking doubt it, bro. Just say yes. Just say yes. You have to play FF7 remake. Yo. Just, hey, marketing. Question from a real account here, actually.

Starting point is 03:43:50 Should I buy this video game or should I possibly not? What could you tell me if there's a reason for me to not buy it? Um, oh no, I should buy it then. Okay, no, no, yeah, no matter what got it. Okay. We all know, cool, what this is going to be. It's going to be like an eight and a half minute recap that Just like goes cloud and his friends defeated the ghosts

Starting point is 03:44:12 And are they gonna say like also ff7 from 1997 happens and Don't think they're going to do that. Hey, cuz like because they they're fuck now, because they made a whole game in which they didn't tell people they should play FF7 beforehand. We have made preparations. Okay. Don't you fucking tell me that I don't have to, I have to buy no other gamer playing. I've been by the one now. So mass affected this, it's the, It's the funniest one because like Mass Effect 3 is the perfect time to start the trilogy.

Starting point is 03:44:50 Sure. But like, you used to be an actual like, like, fixed to this and it was, well, Mass Effect 1 and 2 are old so I can get both of those for $20 each. But I bet you have seven remake is still like full price $60 yeah, so we used we used to also talk about how like one of the only ones in existence is Zone of the Enders where it's like yeah, you're good on your good you were a new bit actually you are you are good And also here's a 20-minute movie but you know

Starting point is 03:45:27 worry about it. Zona the Enders the second runner is so on top of that that the title doesn't even make it clear that it's a sequel Like you could just say that Zona the Enders the second runner is the only thing going the Enders game and the second Yeah, the second render is not a reference to it being the second game that's just referring to think like it's not Zoe yeah it's Zoe the second runner yeah I know so many people that don't even know that there was a first that's fine that's the first one is also like two hours long by the way that game is yeah proof of concept So it's just it's just really like like people who go oh great cool And then they buy ff7 or two and then they're like 10 hours in and they're like what the ever loving fuck

Starting point is 03:46:20 Just happened like go find this man and tweet at him go find Mr. Toriyama and Fucking at him and be like I don't understand what's happening It's crazy that like we're still doing this fucking thing all this time later, you know This question 100% of the fucking time man that game is gonna start with ufee like popping out of nowhere and Conveniently stealing all of the party's best equipment and running and then tripping and then her bag of treats Flies off the cliff. Yeah, and then that's the justification for you to have to do everything again for you to have to do everything again. Well, they're in this stupid problem where they don't want to say, hey, go back and play the re-release of a 60-hour RPG

Starting point is 03:47:10 from the PlayStation 1 from 1997. And also, also play the re-release of a PSP game from 2007. And also, watch that terrible movie we put out a couple years ago before starting with your high-end super nice video game That you should also play before this new one that you're interested in. Hey, man. It's a huge ask I don't know. Are you saying advent children is stupid? Is that what you just said? Okay, I really like advent children Advent children is one of the stupidest events that has ever come out. But the bike though, yes.

Starting point is 03:47:51 I'm glad we're on the same thing. No, that's exactly what I'm thinking about when I think about Advent Children. I'm thinking about this as stupid as fuck, but that park where cloud spins upside down on the bike and then he takes the two guys out and then their bikes fall and they blow up and then he's all room.

Starting point is 03:48:09 The part where they simulate a turn-based battle at the end to kill a sin Bahamut and it's like the hype is shit ever, like, come on dude. But then the trailer bike sword slash shot was not in the actual movie. That's fine. But then the sword breaks into all the other swords and now they're all kin.

Starting point is 03:48:27 And he does the move that he had in FF tactics? Okay, weird. Weird pull. Weird flex, but okay. Okay. Yeah, no. Anyway. No one is standing around willing to tell new people

Starting point is 03:48:43 that want to play the new hot ff7 remake that unless you understand this meme of Sephiroth offering you a pair, then you can't get in on this right now. Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh!

Starting point is 03:49:10 Oh! Is that the podcast title? You cannot have despair. No, unfortunately it's not, but I'll get that down though. Oh, okay. You landed it a bit earlier, I believe, with that OD was OD. That OD is OD. No, I'm looking forward to the game that says, yeah, this is the perfect time to enter

Starting point is 03:49:36 this like 18-part series, and you go to the previous stories section of the main menu and then when you click on it it just loads up a YouTube playlist and it just hits like whatever content creator has made it some of the answers. It just pops up a fucking YouTube video and one of us is like hey you want to welcome to the world to fucking out guilty gear lore I don't know what yeah, you know, you know, the series actually does a really good job of this like genuinely, President evil does a great job.

Starting point is 03:50:12 They're like 45 residential games and when a new one comes out, people go, do I need to play the old one and they look at you and they go, no, fuck no, the story is stupid as hell. Um, monsters shoot them, it's scary. No one gives a shit. There's a, there's also a, well, that's a difference between like a Resident Evil game and a Final Fantasy game. There's enough connection to the, to the rest of the series and the files of every Resident Evil game. So like, you still get the satisfaction if you are a fan, like, oh, this game takes place right here in the timeline. You know, we're like, you can't do that with Final Fantasy 7 remake, rebirth, like,

Starting point is 03:50:49 I have a question. Like, Wolley said, an 18-part franchise apparently. Like, I have a question. As someone who doesn't know many resident evils, talking to those that do. That's, I'm under the impression that Wesker is a character who is better, the less I know about him. You're accurate, yes. Is this true?

Starting point is 03:51:12 Yeah. Because currently, my impression of his timeline is that he's an evil man that was up to some shit and then he did some stuff and then he got the powers and then evil plans went into work. But I know it's really the idea of the DO timeline of every possible thing he could have been up to over the course of all of that. I almost feel like I don't want to know what that must have been.

Starting point is 03:51:37 Okay, so earlier today we were talking about what if we remade bad games. Okay, the game in which you find out every single thing about Wesker's deal sucks and they skipped it. They skipped it. So when they were- That was CV- That was CV- Which I'm sure they will. Wesker's just gonna be evil? Cause fuck it. He's evil. Well, well, I don't know if I want to say this right now because we'll definitely play RE4 remake at some point. Sure, and I will just say, will you know, Mike can't be able to watch it. Oh my god, I mean definitely right.

Starting point is 03:52:18 By all means go for it. I have played RE4, but you know, like. So, I mean, spoiler alert, chat. Wesker is in RE4 remake. Okay. And I feel like what they're doing with this new reimagined timeline is going to make him way cooler and actually like a threatening person instead of like a theater kid who like

Starting point is 03:52:45 is over the top and dramatic and is stupid for stupid reason. Wesker and RE5 original makes me think of light wool, green, staring at a photo on his bed, but it's Chris and he's mad. He's just lying in bed in his fucking black trench coat of his black carbon fiber trench coat looking at a photograph of Chris Redfield.

Starting point is 03:53:07 Just go, oh! Yeah, sorry, I hate you! It just when he looks into the camera and says, I hate Chris, like right into the... Yeah, it's just any time, any time you've got a long running villain over like a series that hits part 10, you know, it's like what have they been up to for the entirety of it? And like really like... Well luckily he only got to part five so... Okay. That's yeah actually I think like that one that is true.

Starting point is 03:53:38 Wesker isn't a weirdly small amount of Resident Evil games considering how much people know about him. Hmm. Yeah. small amount of resident evil games considering how much people know about him. Hmm. Yeah. But I think I want to say they're gonna fix it. Hopefully they're gonna fix it and make him cool again. Yeah. I don't know.

Starting point is 03:53:57 Anyway, SF7 rebirth anyway. Yeah, no, someone just mentioned it. It's totally true. It's like, yeah, Akuma. What's his fucking body count? Zero Alright, well, anyways, or Akuma is just Jesus Christ. Yeah, yeah, no I'm gonna do is like throw him twice and he's done come on glass cannon. It's fine. I Yes, yeah

Starting point is 03:54:32 Yeah, you know he killed gokin for a week and then gokin got back up and then he killed And then he was dying of cancer and get was fine and then again was like actually I'm doing great And then get lived on through multiple games. Get games. Get survived better than before. No. Oh my God. Um, yeah, I guess, were you punches him?

Starting point is 03:55:07 Did Nikolai punch him? Yeah, were you punches him? Were you punches him with the fucking, yeah, yeah, yeah. Does he melt in a butterfly? He melts into the butterflies. And then there was go-tetsu, but it was stupid. What a waste of a villain. Like they're just, Nicole is the new big bad guy.

Starting point is 03:55:28 That's it. And it's like- And he's street fighter five men. He has the five on his chest. And he pops off, and the fucking sickest transition ever happens, where his dreads become these glowing fucking th- Oh, what's that? Jamie? Cool, never mind. Hey. Yeah, yeah. What, like, Wolley brought it up a long time ago talking about Cole-Con?

Starting point is 03:55:49 Like, what is up with, like, the Aztec Warrior becoming, like, the biggest jobber in the- I'm always, always a sucker for the Aztec Warrior in a fighting game. Always, I love it so much. It's so fucking cool The god of battle Ogre is here wait Wait never mind. He's turned into a bat fucking lizard creatures He's turned into a bat snake and that's the only one you're gonna see from now on I Fucking hate true ogre man true ogre, man. True ogre.

Starting point is 03:56:27 Oh, also ogre fucking sucks just cause like Paul beats him and Paul's a stupid loser. Yeah. Do I have to go to war? Gone beats true ogre, okay? Gone. Wait. Oh, it's gin, gin beats true ogre, doesn't he?

Starting point is 03:56:42 Well, when I played that game, gone. True ogoper, okay. All right, and then he went on an adventure that never ended. Yes. That never ended and I was so confused. That's a small try. Oh God, man. Yeah, I think I have to go back to War Gods

Starting point is 03:56:59 to find the Aztec Warrior that was not just jobbing from day one. Anyways, hey, can I interest you in a new VR headset? Hold on, it has a two hour battery life. Oh my God, I didn't even know that. Oh my God, really? It's from Apple. I thought we were gonna make fun of the price,

Starting point is 03:57:21 but you're telling me a two hour battery life? It's from Apple, it's a new VR headset. It has a two hour battery life and it costs $3,500 if you're Canadian let's call my $700 plus tax. I gotta get my bank on the phone right now. I think My accountant needs to fucking hear from me. Yeah, I had some gold. Okay, what do we got? Hold on, hold on, I'll chip in. What do I got?

Starting point is 03:57:50 I might have a Canadian Tunie. We gotta get this thing. I got a Tunie. My... Yep. Or we can... We can pitch it in. You know, it's funny because like Paige was saying to me

Starting point is 03:58:03 earlier before I came over here, she was like, oh Apple put out the new VR headset. I said, it's funny because like Paige was saying to me earlier before I came over here, she was like, oh, Apple put out the new VR headset. I said, you know what? That makes sense. I think Apple is like the only company that would be able to get like this type of tech like broad appeal because they'd make it hip and the zoomers,

Starting point is 03:58:18 but all want one. And then we like scroll down and saw the price and like we both started laughing and we're racing to Twitter to make fun of it like the fastest. Insanity. Who the fuck is that for? I mean, Apple has always been the premium price fucking, we're just going to impose this on the market and the market will follow, right?

Starting point is 03:58:41 That's been the move from day one. And it's worked out swimmingly for them in many departments, but VR, which is already struggling to keep anyone interested and is kind of showing up with like, not enough variety in terms of what you can do with it, not as many calls to just feel like using it at all. People just going like, even if I don't mind it,

Starting point is 03:59:04 it makes me dizzy, all of that. And you're like, you're gonna convince the Apple loyal, you're gonna, the nutsoes that are. Bell-buy. Bell-buy. Bell-buy, yeah, Bell-guet it. Because it's gotta complete the collection, you know? Only through the power of every Apple product in a ring

Starting point is 03:59:19 can they truly summon the spirit of stone, you know? But like, it's's just for the market they're kind of hoping to get is it's probably like I already got a VR headset that costs less than half of that but the fuck is wrong with you? 200 bucks. And by the way, that 3500 doesn't include controllers. Of course not.

Starting point is 03:59:40 Why would you need to control? Oh my god. Where did he go? Of course not. Why would you need to control that? Oh my God. Where did he go? Where did he go? I'm just turning it on. Where has he gone? I'm turning a light on. It got dark.

Starting point is 03:59:57 Yeah, it's kinda dark. Maybe the VR headset would allow me to. Why would you need to control your VR headset? You need to like just use your eyeballs to open up your productivity software. Whatever the fuck you're supposed to use on that piece of shit. Does this VR headset show your eyes? Or is that just like a marketing? No, you point and click with blinks and eye movement.

Starting point is 04:00:20 No, but like through it, like can you see my eye? Like if I were, because can see how there's a space You can also see the dumbest you can also see what they're seeing in reverse So if you're watching if you're on the subway and you're watching like hardcore pornography on your Apple bullshit People looking at what you can see that you're looking at hardcore porn Let can you see the layer of dust? see that you're looking at hard core porn. Let's go. Can you see the layer of dust

Starting point is 04:00:45 that I'm holding right now? I'm, I, can you see that? Is that clear? Is that in 4K? I see it. I can see it. You want to hear something fucking awesome. So we got a Oculus or whatever the fuck

Starting point is 04:00:58 one of those things and we, we used it to do the VR chat because we were fucking shut in during the Goddamn pandemic and it helped to even pretend we were in a room of people, right? And we still have it's in a box somewhere over that way, right? I bought a new house. I now have a large VR ready living room. You know the one they show in the fucking things? Plenty of room. I could VR headset all day for fucking what? To do what?

Starting point is 04:01:29 Can I tell you guys, when I got my rig, my crazy rig, and my VR, I was like time to play Half-Life Alex. What's fucking do this? Yeah. Religious experience made me cry at the end. I fucking felt God like just opening a door and hiding behind it and popping up and shooting. When I beat that game, I felt so fulfilled,

Starting point is 04:01:57 but I took my headset off and I was like, time to never use this ever again. Because nothing will ever come close to the quality of that video. Okay. It's like, I heard that was a special one. That was an exception. Yeah. I have, I have heard that.

Starting point is 04:02:14 VR, it's just not in a spot right now. That was right. That was right. Spending this anonymity. I had that with Rez. Um, Res area X was fucking religious spiritual experience. It's great. Yeah, there are there are there. We have our markers, but like And the thing is is like

Starting point is 04:02:33 We are like fucking content creators. So we're gonna you know get a thing to make a video and try a thing out and do some stuff like Duh, you know not gonna get this fucking video Yes do some stuff like dog you know I'm not gonna get this fucking video yeah yeah yeah yeah what video could I possibly fucking make but like someone is like by this thing someone is like oh you like sucker bought the vrps vr it's like yeah there was a series of fucking content that came from that but, but I'm always looking at this from the point of view of like, okay, but how are you going to convince my cousin and my aunt and, um, you know, my nephew to get this? What are you going to sell them on? What is the, what is the reason they have to jump like I just don't. There's no reason. Yeah. so I can add on let's say I talk to my sister, right?

Starting point is 04:03:26 She's got a she's good mine after you. He's like he's like 11 years old, right? He likes video games, right? Okay, okay, sis. So you could get your child an absolutely disgusting PC or An ps5 with a television like a good television and a bunch of controllers or You could get him these fucking clown ass sunglasses that let him open like PDFs on some glass Like seriously You could buy everyone in his grade

Starting point is 04:04:06 copy of high-fire rush you could or Three fighters six you there's it. Okay hold on If this thing operates on blinks I'm fucked because I have an eye condition where I blink Rapidly all the fucking time. Like, all the time. They might do it. They might do it because they're doing the hand gestures.

Starting point is 04:04:33 It's called the iPhone. They're doing the hand gestures instead of a controller, so they might do some shit like that with the eye tracking and stuff. Yeah, not at all an accessible thing. Yeah, anyway, that's fucking wild. Hey, what's Street Fighter 6 and USD is that $59.99? Or $6.99? I think so, yeah. Go for the cranked up version. Street Fighter has and USD is that $59.99? Or $6.99. It's, I think so, yeah, I'm not sure. Go for the cranked up version.

Starting point is 04:05:06 Street Fighter's always been trucking. Yeah, sure, fucking long time. You know the deal. So, you could, instead of getting one of those, you could buy Street Fighter 6 for you and 49 of your friends at least. Damn, that could fill up a group. Yeah, yeah, that's my club right

Starting point is 04:05:26 there come on anyway this is like a rude detector like like you look like you know like the blue check mark has become, right? So this is a much, much, much, much more expensive version of that that you can see out and about. Like, you know how almost everyone you ever saw with a Google Glass in public look like a piece of shit? I never saw one in real life. I saw one, they look like a fucking piece of shit. They're always ordering coffee somewhere.

Starting point is 04:06:03 I've never, I've never had the pleasure of encountering a, a dragon ball scouter in real life. Oh my God. See somebody wearing this in public, they're probably a piece of shit. So my question is, seeing as I haven't seen the full unveiling here, what is the killer app that is supposed to convince people to drop that money? Apple doesn't believe in killer apps. Well, that's not part of their product thing.

Starting point is 04:06:34 Their product, bullshit, is like culture and sleek coolness. So the answer is the Apple logo on the box is the killer app. That is correct, yeah. Gotcha. Okay, understood. Yes, you figured it out, finally. Okay. This is just a little... I just imagined seeing the thumbnail

Starting point is 04:06:55 for Pat Starrza watching VR porn on the train, Apple VR. I gotta see a photo of this fucking thing. It's like you can talk. That's your content, Pat. Absolutely see the images on the other fucking side. Like, as you can see people's eyes through the device, so you can see the images. Can you see what they're seeing?

Starting point is 04:07:18 Okay. Well, that presents some problems. Fucking stealing your goddamn credit card information because you're putting in your fucking gatch dollars on the bus. Okay, but to be fair, when you fucking pop up the store in steam on Street Fighter, those steam workshop pops up with your fucking Doc's address immediately and you can't make that private or turn it off because stupid overlays. So what game is this?

Starting point is 04:07:46 Street Fighter 6. Really? Yeah. Where? When you go to the shop and you click on any of the things that take you out of the game into the workshop, you get brought to your purchase page and if you have stuff in your wallet... Oh fuck that! That's bullshit!

Starting point is 04:08:08 If you have stuff in your wallet, it'll just use that, but if you don't, it'll bring you to a fucking address and confirmed information page, which docks you instantly. So... You had to know... Heads up. You hear that chat? About that? Just that if you are going to go to the shop in the game.

Starting point is 04:08:27 Just play World Tour, okay? You wanna unlock those costumes? I'll play World Tour. Don't buy them. Big ole heads up. And after looking into it, there appears to be no privacy setting for that, or anyway, for that to not pop up.

Starting point is 04:08:45 It's overlay off entirely, essentially. So, yes, that's a steam thing, but that is still fucking ridiculous. Anyway, so yeah, the porn on the VR thing, I'll take that, actually, that's fine. You can, you can, yeah, you check my tags, like we're going all, you, that's fine. So I am being, I am being, that's fine. I am being in any big problems.

Starting point is 04:09:06 I have been informed that the view of people's eyeballs inside the thing, it is not transparent. That is a video screen projecting your eyeballs out to the world. Why would they do that? I don't know, that's so weird. That's so stupid. That makes you look more human I guess Because the future is now old man

Starting point is 04:09:34 Okay, well you know what the next video is watching VR porn on the train Apple VR Do I put there's no What's the point? Oh, there's gesture hands? Yeah, I guess. But are we going into the tech future or not? Let me hook the nice fucking self up to the full, you know, let's go all the way in. Let's get it. Let's get all the way through it. Strap me in. The full review.

Starting point is 04:10:01 We need, we need Edrunner's tech going on here. Yeah, edge runners Oh Whatever whatever that fucking like weird I don't like fucking Jordan Peterson milking machines. I don't know Yeah, what are those things? My favorite Six characters is Jordan Peter wired up. Let's see it. Don't give me this gesture shit turn All right, look If you want to tell us about what you can spend

Starting point is 04:10:42 35 Tell us about what you can spend 3500 on. You can send a letter to castlesuperbestimeilatgmail.com. That's castlesuperbestimeilatgmail.com. I have now turned off the fucking overlay for Street Fighter 6. There you go. There you go. Yeah. Fuck that.

Starting point is 04:11:03 Fuck that. PSA. Oh, oh, that's my channel name. Yeah. Fuck that. PSA. Oh, oh, um, my channel name. Yeah. Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, so this one's, this one's for the, you know, one for the real ones, but like little story here, um, for those in, in the, in the Super Robot Wars, uh, club, um, there's a game that just got shown off called Iron Saga Versus and it appears to be the fucking thing that I've been asking for for two goddamn decades. It is Super Robot Wars the fighting game and you can see the cool little sprites doing all the awesome animation that they do except now it's a fighting game and they can fight. Well because the animation in Super Robot Wars has always been amazing but they just refused to do that. So now they've done it

Starting point is 04:11:57 so check that out if that's your thing and if you're interested in SRW, keep it to the side. I'm hilariously small screen. Yeah, it's super about words, you know. I don't know, but as a fighting game, like the characters don't even come up to the midpoint of the screen. Well, I mean, yo, I got a game for you. It's called Pocket Fighter. Oh, yeah, I'm all poster person.

Starting point is 04:12:17 Yes, I love Pocket Fighter. Yeah, Iron Saga versus. Anyways, oh, hey, I have a piece of news that we can't forget about before we go on uh the the restored content mod for the Nintendo switch version of coto or two has been indefinitely canceled which means that version of the game is now completely incompletable forever uh why would they do that? Is it just like fuck this this, not enough money,

Starting point is 04:12:47 sold, not enough copies, never mind? I did not see a reason gone into it, but that game is straight up, uncompletable. So they're offering like codes for versions on other platforms that do have it. That's... No, that's fucking like still shit. If somebody bought that game on the premise, on the promise that they were going to get

Starting point is 04:13:14 the restored content version of it, and then they just kind of got that initially knowing that they were gonna, you know, that's fucking horseshit. They should be allowed to get their money back if they wanted to. That is absolutely, that should be a refund if somebody was buying it for that purpose. The difference between the restored content and not is insane.

Starting point is 04:13:33 Yeah, they have a they're going to get the instead of refunds they're giving out complimentary versions of the Sith Lords on steam. Kotor won on Switch, Force Unleashed on Switch, Republic Commando on Switch, Episode 1 racer on Switch, Jedi Knight, Jedi Academy on Switch, or Jedi Knight 2 Jedi Out-Cut asked on Switch. So you can either have a different game on Switch, or you can have Cotor 2 on Steam. And if you don't want either of those, I guess you can suck it. Yeah, well how about a link to a mega upload and a paste bin? I don't know what that is.

Starting point is 04:14:14 I think not including that content is way way worse than the fact that one of the bugs that content fixes allows you to complete the game at all. I it's just like this is cause for someone to go actually never mind I don't want to buy this. And if they bought it, that's you know they absolutely should get a refund. Okay, great, cool, awesome. From purchasable to not purchasable. We got one coming in from Princess Toadstool Peach says hey Castle Super Beast lots of series have changed or tried to change its main character over time

Starting point is 04:14:59 Devil May Cry got Nero ace attorney got a polygestus middle girl solid got right in and they keep saying There's a new protagonist every street fighter game What do you think is the reason they want to switch up the protagonist so much? Personally, I'd be fine just having Dante or Phoenix Wright leading the role forever without these other dorks trying to get the leading role. I'm so over the story arc of newcomers feeling inadequate compared to the original guy too. Well, for Devil May Cry 4, the reason why they decided to do that late in development, you know, to focus on Nero was because that was the first cross-platform Devil May Cry game. So they wanted Xbox players to just get like a fresh experience without having to play, which is of course the thing that we were talking about before.

Starting point is 04:15:41 And I was the perfect time to start the Devil May Cry series. Exactly. Literally. It's exactly what we were saying before before. The war is the perfect time to start the Devilman Cry series. Exactly. Literally, it's exactly what we were saying before. So they just, yeah. They couldn't finish it. So. In any, hey, in any game's design phase, the new character shows up as a way of giving a new player an easy means of entry where they don't necessarily have to feel the baggage

Starting point is 04:16:02 of whatever came before or whatever they're missing and so on. That's the idea often behind it, right? And I get that we often, you know, like the the you know the the fact that you're gonna have a new group of people trying that for the first time that Come in and are kind of going like wait So like if you is is anything what happened last time? Do I have to know or whatever and if you have a new analog To put that that new experience through, then I have a time to put that experience through that you don't have to worry about that with people.

Starting point is 04:16:31 But the, like, that's one thing that you get just from a marketing perspective. But the other reason why this take is pretty bad, I'm sorry to say, Princess Stone Stools, because the fucking passage of time is awesome. And seeing characters, if you happen to be a fan of them back then, change in seeing things move in a way that shows growth is the thing that actually compliments

Starting point is 04:16:59 them the most. If you like these characters as much as you do, them never changing and nothing ever happening means they go through no arcs, means they stay the fucking same, which is why when you're fucking 17,000 hours into Naruto, and he still doesn't get it and everyone else is like, wait,

Starting point is 04:17:20 he's asking the same dumb questions, he hasn't caught on to what's going on around him. And the fucking wolf gave this mother fucking brain damage. It's fucking idiot not a toke. And you're like, yeah, like if everyone can fucking learn something, it can be an interesting, more compelling story. But instead, you don't. And then you just kind of power creep your way into becoming ninja God or whatever.

Starting point is 04:17:43 You know, you do backstory reveals for the, for the, the, you know, to be the ultimate chosen one. Um, Joe, Joe, Jonathan, Joe star being the protagonist of season two, continuing to just be Jonathan as, you know, I guess new vampires show up and the story goes on. And then part three, I guess the stands show up, but then Jonathan continues to be, John, like, like, like, no, man, like the fact that you get to see the characters change and go through their arcs,

Starting point is 04:18:15 and in this case, complete them, is what makes them so strong, and it's what makes, it's what we like about them. Even the little ways that we've talked about how Dante changes over the course of those games, you know, and then him having a little bit of family back in the form of Nero and then his demeanor and the relationship he has with Verna.

Starting point is 04:18:36 So all that shit that we like is a result of time being allowed to pass on and the introduction of a new character and or a new protagonist and the idea of passing the mantle on. You know, that's shit. Like how cool is it? How cool is it that like in DMC 5 like Dante is like visibly tired and like really like even kind of monotone for most of that game.

Starting point is 04:19:02 But then the second he thinks Virgil might be coming back, he literally comes to life again. Like, you know what I mean? Like if you're somebody that says, I hate Miles Morales, I just don't like him. That's fine. Like, you know, you can not like the new version. Okay, Vertion McGill. But yeah, no, it should have been me.

Starting point is 04:19:25 But if you are just like, no, I want the thing I want, and I want it to never change because Ryu equals Street Fighter and Phoenix Wright equals Phoenix Wright, and that's at the end of it. I need to stop you right there. I was waiting for you to actually mention Phoenix Wright. Yeah. Phoenix Wright fumbled the ball worse than any of this. So you could speak to this because I don't know

Starting point is 04:19:50 the arc of Apollo. I'm well aware there were three long visual novel adventures with a feature Phoenix Wright and his buddies solving crimes and doing lawyer stuff. And there's actually a weirdly high amount of ghosts involved in that story about characters you don't know, so that's tough. So what we're going to do is we're going to make Phoenix a million times cooler by making

Starting point is 04:20:15 him lose his legal license, which is like a homeless, the hobo outfit. We're going to give you a hot new character who fucking sucks and won't like at all And we're gonna go wow isn't Phoenix cool as you're playing is this boring piece of shit Now the people sucks so bad in his first game It's so boring if they don't fumble the the Apollo in like like situation and you have Phoenix go into this Change that has to occur because a new thing is happening over here, right? This character existing creates space for this character to change. Yeah, like

Starting point is 04:20:58 Would that not have been better for the series assuming of course that the fucking you know? The you don't drop the ball. I kind of think of snakepliskin, I think of writing, I think of writing's introduction. And yeah, totally the difference is that like, Fenix Apollo is just more boring or Phoenix. Mm-hmm. And Fenix, so you've gotta glow up.

Starting point is 04:21:21 So you're just like, why am I not playing as Nick? Nick's cooler. If want to play as Nick. So a writing is such a fucking interesting test case for this because you see the initial reaction of God damn it, I wanna be snake, where's snake? And then like snake shows up and he's like, I'm over here, I'm doing other cool sky stuff,

Starting point is 04:21:44 you're not me. And Kojima being very clear that like yeah actually like we wanted you to feel that, but also we wanted more girls to play. So we thought that introducing a new hot kid to be the boy that you played as would get more girls to play. What is my favorite MGS? Yeah. And you all know. And so like, and that initial feeling of like God damn it, I, where's my snake, right? Um, he was in the prologue, what the fuck? Then leads to one of like, oh, okay, no, I, they're doing something here. Like this dude has his own weird fucked up struggles and shit that's going on here.

Starting point is 04:22:24 And then, all right. Whatever this means, sure. And then you lead into everything that happens to write it immediately afterwards, being like, this is the coolest fucker in the entire franchise. I can't, please give him back to me. I want to be him now.

Starting point is 04:22:43 And like in four, Kojima's like, no, you get to watch. You like to watch? No, exactly. Put your Superman outfit on and get in the fucking closet and people because you win. You don't get to be him now. Oh, I want your snake. Well, here's snakefucker. You're like, oh, he's like, okay, fine. Like this is I've edged you log it out. It happens when you bitch and both. Right? Like here's revenge, and you're like, ah, you know, it's the fucking perfect example of that exact case for the new guy, the inferiority complex coming through. And I love that, it's fantastic, you know?

Starting point is 04:23:17 And we've talked and ad nauseam about Nero's arc and how fucking cool it is for him to like step in. And you're taking the fucking camera away from Dante Are you crazy and it's like yes? Yes, we are actually and he has a whole fucking beautiful arc that finally comes to a head where Again, at least I'm like you're having him do shit that is like a completely different style of game Like I love that style of character more by the end of it. Like fuck man, there's so much room to read to for things

Starting point is 04:23:50 to grow in a franchise when you create that space, you know? It's definitely a case of like it could either go, you know, one way or another, really bad. Like mishandled, like you just fucking drop the ball or like it goes on to be a righton or a hero, you just fucking drop the ball, or like, it goes on to be a ride in, or an hero, you know, or you're just like, this is fantastic. It's really funny that I have to actually come back to Phoenix Wright because they actually tried to do to Apollo what MGS did to ride in, and that Apollo gets blown up in a terror attack in the courtroom.

Starting point is 04:24:27 And then upon we're coming out of the hospital, he has a sick eye patch bandana and wears a coat over his shoulders because he's cool now. But it doesn't work. He's still more or less the same character. And so it doesn't work. He's still more or less the same character and so it doesn't work. So I'm going to take this in one more direction, which is again, it's not one that comes up often, but it's one that I feel very strongly about. You are reading Vagabond, And you are following the story of Musashi and as it fucking picks up and goes and goes, you are compelled, you are super drawn in to where it's going to go next and you know, like what is the next adventure.

Starting point is 04:25:20 And at a certain point, it just fucking picks you up and rips you away from him and drops you in front of a baby, named Cogiro, and you're like, oh, okay, that's weird, but sure. And then the baby grows up and you're still reading and you're like, wait, hold on, it's been literally an entire vault, what are we doing? What are we doing? And you're like, no, no, no, no, no, no, this isn't a cutaway to a little thing here. This is protagonist too. And we're going to spend volumes with them. And you're like, what are you? Oh my God,

Starting point is 04:26:02 this is unbelievable. I'm so hooked into this character and they're struggle and the difference between them and what I was just reading, and you're fully invested in where this goes. And it builds to this point where it's like, it's a philosophical opposite side of the coin. And then there's like a moment of just like you kind of forget, but you're like you're just drawn in very strongly to this new thing that when they kind of drop the old

Starting point is 04:26:33 protagonist back in for a second, you kind of get an idea of what this story is actually about to become. And it's one of the most, it's one of the best pop-offs in all of anything I've ever read. It's so sick to like guide you along a path and then move away suddenly and guide you on a different path that like makes you care almost more about this new thing and then something you didn't think about gets introduced and like the it's fucking masterful but the changing of the focus and the the the the moment of that little torch, that little, you know, is so important to making a story like this, which is not even a video game, it's a narrative

Starting point is 04:27:14 that does it, and when it's done well, it's one of the best fucking things. Yeah, that's a fairly, that's a fairly common idea. Like as you're talking about that, I'm thinking about monster, and I'm thinking about monster and I'm thinking about how monster follows like dr. Tenman it follows the sister and these characters individually because they're all or like inspector Lungay and every time they hit a cliffhanger they go all

Starting point is 04:27:38 right we're gonna hang out with one of the other cast members for like 14 episodes and we're gonna just drop that plot line entirely on you and we're just gonna pick it up later. But now, and like you're always, always like, fuck! Got no, I wanna, oh, what do you see? And then you're like, okay fine, we'll hang out with this character now. Oh, this is incredible.

Starting point is 04:28:01 And then they cut back to the thing you were screaming about, you have to see? And you're like, no, no, no, go back. Yeah, I was just watching. That moment when you're an old thing that you wanted, and you're like, wait, hold on though, but new thing. But that's the mystery of it. Think about this. What if you were watching a boxing anime

Starting point is 04:28:27 and you cut to your rival, Miata in Thailand and every time you did, you're like, this character sucks. Yeah. Don't care. And then they just keep doing it over and over and over. And you're like, wow, this is the shittiest character ever why is the author obsessed with me I don't know fuck I should just skip this goddamn I'm just gonna skip it. I'm just gonna skip it. I don't care

Starting point is 04:28:57 It's fucking me out of it. It's like the shittiest rival. Oh my god. He's so bad. I rival and oh my god he's so bad I mean sendo exists sendo of fucking rules get that fucking Nanny Wal-Rocky going on man get fucking gotta buy this kid's super Nintendo yeah um no no the the I mean of course the rival yet he had a we've you know gone on a million years about that. But this is to say just at the end of the day that like the thing that you're down on here is what expressly allows for growth and improvement in the story, right?

Starting point is 04:29:37 So there you go. And I'll just finish it off with saying my favorite thing about SF6's story is that it explores things like this theme with certain characters. And when you play World Tour, you'll get some really cool stories about the classic characters, and you're going to be like, wow, I'm really proud of this person who was dealt a shitty hand, and is now a better person. I fully expect some of Luke to be inferiority complex

Starting point is 04:30:12 to some degree, but I do appreciate that him and Jamie are just talking shit and fucking otherwise chill guy meets otherwise chill guy, but these two cannot be chill under any circumstance. For God knows what reason. You know, it's like all right. Yeah, for sure. This is the start of something there.

Starting point is 04:30:33 Cammy story. Very good. Nice. Nice. Nice. Very, very good. Anyway. Okay.

Starting point is 04:30:41 Let's take one more. That took a bit. So let's take one more here. Jess says, hey, let's take one more that took a bit. So let's take one more here Jess says hey greetings I'm writing today to let you guys know that some of one of Konami's video game escapades the last couple weeks in Yu-Gi-Oh master duel Konami hosted an event allowing players to compete in a world championship for the game The event has two stages the players in the first stage have to get to the highest rank, dual level, and then they're allowed to compete in the second stage that

Starting point is 04:31:08 lasts two weeks. The second stage is a 72 hour event in which people around the clock are playing to get the highest point tally in the regions to qualify for worlds. There's no proper qualifier tournament like how it's done in paper yugio to get your spot in worlds. It's just, did you play more than everyone else and did you win more than everyone else? There's no minimum points required to get in, just bigger number required. So players have to constantly play if they seriously want a chance to get in worlds else they fall behind. That being said, is this just too much to get a world championship or can you think of

Starting point is 04:31:44 worse ways that have happened before? That's the dumbest fucking system I think I've ever heard for a competitive... I can tell you why they did that system that way. Because they introduced a bunch of balanced changes to the game while all the content creators were at that tournament and playing constantly. So no one would be able to put out videos complaining. Oh, And playing constantly so no one would be able to put out videos Complaining What it's like it's like the old days where people would release a shitty video game during e3 season Where there'd be no one there to review it. So it would just sail right through

Starting point is 04:32:19 They made it right. Go right forces content creators to literally play for 72 hours straight So they couldn't make videos about bullshit that Konami was doing. Oh my god. That's Shit the tech That is unbelievable tech though the stall the fucking stall attack you can't you can't act. It's not your turn the stall, the fucking stall attack. You can't act, it's not your turn. Oh my God, man, because yeah, it's obviously meaningless. It's obviously like, hey, just sit and farm, sit and grind instead of actually win or like, you know,

Starting point is 04:32:57 move through a ladder of any kind, whatsoever. Like the tassam in Round Rob and Tournament, except you're not actually moderating any round robin people are yeah you're calling it a scustle yeah it's a scustle it's it's part hustle part scam that's incredible that part hustle all scam oh my god man don't let don't let the creators do it act first deny them by putting a 72 hour requirement. And then yeah, and then of course it's just like anyone that's like, okay, did you not

Starting point is 04:33:32 sleep? Good. That's that that helps you here. Are you running me? If you hit also media, you'll look crazed and unhinged just because you can barely type. If you can if you can run bots on your shit and just, you know, and, you know, force multiply your points, make number go up. Good on you. That's fucked up, you Vio fans. I'm sorry to hear that. That's crazy. Yeah, sorry. Uh, Yugi heads. I don't know what you call those people. Yugi head. Is that a thing? Is that written? Did you invent that just now? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's what they're called officially. I don't believe you. You're not speaking with a lot of confidence. Yugi had right guys. I'm gonna type this in. Wait,

Starting point is 04:34:18 Yugi bros. Okay. No, not gonna. Yugi nutters, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, That's fantastic. That shit haunts my dreams, dude. That's an awesome dream. Mmm. What a fucking mess that shit up. Oh my god. Week to week. Just, oh no!

Starting point is 04:35:03 Followed by, oh. No. Fuck. We were so. Weak to weak just oh no followed by oh No We were so we were so excited That's that's the likes we'll never see that again. That was a fucking play Bayo 3 and you're like oh no oh No the part the fucking moment where woolly turns the game off it goes we could just play Biot 2 right now like we could You know that moment would have been worse if the game was good At least it ended up being what it what anyway alright whatever alright let's anyway

Starting point is 04:35:43 Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what, that's fine. Alright. Enjoy your Street Fighter 6 matches, don't get too discouraged people. You'll improve if you keep playing. Damn, that sounds like somebody who got into fighting games. No, I got back into fighting games. That's different. Susie, where can people find you? You can find me at the Sphere Hunter everywhere,

Starting point is 04:36:07 YouTube, Twitch, Instagram, Twitter, and I cover a lot of stuff. I'm kind of in a SF6 mood right now, so I'm posting a lot about that. So, yeah, a lot of Capcom games. Yeah, the Sphere Hunter. The Sphere Hunter. Thank you so much for joining us. Tons of fun.

Starting point is 04:36:23 Thanks again, Suzy. Yeah. Later. Yeah, this is great you

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