Castle Super Beast - CSB 233: The Dork Urge

Episode Date: August 29, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 МУЗЫКАЛЬНАЯ ЗАСТАВКА 8-12 a day 8-12 a day Well then now we're talking about diapers immediately prior to the start of recording. Yes, me. Hey, what's the burn rate on diapers for a baby? 8, yeah, 8 to 12. Wow. You know, sometimes a little low, sometimes a little high. For some, then I just get, you know, I for some reason, I just thought like, oh, For some reason I just thought like oh well one per bathroom usage and that What like a human? Yeah like a human you know not like a tiny so form of poop based Terror I was thinking like two or three after you're fucking you know input output
Starting point is 00:01:27 Holy shit Dude the babies have food every two and a half to three hours True true true, but it comes but it comes out at at equal rates I suppose that that's yeah, so like no one talks about the output When we're in the hospital there's a big chart on the On the wall and the chart was like okay one, you should have this many wet diapers and this many poopy diapers. And then day two, you should have this many and then you build up to about eight to 12.
Starting point is 00:01:55 And like it's not bad, like changing the diaper is overrated in terms of difficulty, right? Now, the fucked up blowout nightmare diapers, is overrated in terms of difficulty, right? Now, the fucked up blowout nightmare diapers, I've managed to dodge and so is Paige, but those are not gonna be every day, I hope not, eventually. But the changing a regular diaper is five minutes out your life. Yeah, it's just poop.
Starting point is 00:02:26 But I think the image that created it being overrated is Donald Draper trying to do it with one hand while he's got a whiskey sour in the other, in a cigar lit, you know, and like, oh, well, that's a different task. I'm sitting here as a man, and I'm in the, as I am sitting here as a man, and I'm talking to you as a man, my dad changed the occasional diaper,
Starting point is 00:02:52 but like in general, everyone from the generation before us, we would just not change diapers at all. In the 70s, it was like less than, I think 10% of dads had changed one diaper. Right. And so like, when we watched like TV and shit like that, we got to see sitcom things of, oh, dad's gotta change the diaper.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Oh, no, what's gonna happen? Oh my God, it's ever, and it's like no, it's like two minutes. Also, how much of that is left over energy of the years when diapers were made of cloth, and you had to go rinse and put them out and put a new, fresh one on, you know. So, um, people,
Starting point is 00:03:34 diapers, tech has evolved. People still use cloth diapers. And you save a lot of money off of, you know, disposal. I get it, but you have traded time. A lot of time. A lot of time. And also like the wash, you know, like, like, because, like, back, the time I'm referring to is a time when you'd have to then go like get the the washing block out
Starting point is 00:04:05 You know and you'd have to like rinse it and then gritt gritt gritt and do the proper scrubbing I mean people we had those in Grenada people use Clock diapers right now. Oh, yeah, no, I know but I mean I'm just saying but right now and in today's day and age like you're not gonna grab that diaper and then throw it in the washing machine Load it up. You guys rinse it out. There's a step in between to make it a little less like. I'm not.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Insane. I'm not gonna use, no. So I'm gonna use disposable diapers forever. Yeah, you're saving money but like at what cost, you know, there's time and there's time has value. And the other thing about cloth diapers, and this is this would be my nightmare, is that if the baby poops hard enough and fast enough, there's the possibility that you're gonna hit like,
Starting point is 00:04:55 your limit on what cloth diapers you have available. Mm. And then what do you do? You just put them in a little garbage bag? That's not gonna work. Oh yeah, yeah. Also, you were mentioning earlier that you got, you stopped blocking too early in the combo
Starting point is 00:05:12 and the fresh diaper got resoiled almost immediately. Oh yeah, no, you'll change, if you're like, oh, I gotta be right on this for baby, you change baby and then baby looks at you and before you even have the clasp on the new diaper, blah, blah, and then you change that diaper and you do it again, blah, and you're like, so one baby shits, you kind of look at baby for a little bit and you you you search his eyes. You got reset that baby, the baby did a reset on you. Brats were set. Because you're looking at him and you're like, you're trying to ascertain
Starting point is 00:05:44 what's in a creature stomach based on their face. And like, and you him and you're like, you're trying to ascertain what's in a creature stomach based on their face. And like, and you look and you're like, is there like, is there eye twitching? Is there like a scrunch of the face? Are they doing a little, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh Because you're going to shit that diaper again. Anyway, all right. Babies are cool. Got the dog back.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Dog is back in the house. Dog and baby have met. It is adorable. We can't have the dog licking the baby right now because the baby is like a month old or to the little us. And the dog is disgusting and awful. So they've like, they've like, you know, chatted, they've talked to each other.
Starting point is 00:06:33 And every time I got the baby in my, like, you know, in the Kirk of my arm, the dog tries to sneak like tastes of the baby's feet. Like the dog will, like my, my bulldog, right? I mean, it was bulldog and he's got a big stupid fat head, but they have really weirdly long tongues. So the dog will like crawl on the couch towards us and I'm like, no, stay.
Starting point is 00:06:57 And then he'll like extend his leg to the, his head to the maximum distance and just trying like lick the baby, like the baby's a popsicle. Nice. It's disgusting, but it's very cute. There's gonna be a point. Otherwise, yeah, dogs totally chill. There will be a point where as baby grows, they're on the way up, they will be, baby and dog will hit the same level of awareness. Yeah, and that will, That's gonna be weird. That will be the key moment, right?
Starting point is 00:07:27 Finding the exact cross point. I had the other day, I had baby in my right arm, like just Kradlin got it in my hand under his butt, kind of crook in the arm, and the dog crawled on my lap, and then they both looked at each other for like 10 minutes, and then baby started kicking the dog in the head. And then the dog looked at me like I'm going to stop the baby. And I'm like, dog your head, ways, your head weighs four times as much as the baby.
Starting point is 00:07:57 You're fine. Don't give me sad puppy eyes because an infant is kicking you in the brain. It's adorable. It's adorable. Bro, what the fuck? Talk to your boy. Talk to your man's dog. No, baby gets a free pass.
Starting point is 00:08:14 No, that's one of the reasons we got an English Bulldog, because English Bulldogs are extraordinarily tolerant around small children. Like, you know, you see their fat ugly face, right? And so people like to mess with their jowls. Babies like to mess with their jowls. And you know, babies like to grab dogs, eyes, and suck on their nose, all that weird shit. He's not gonna give a shit.
Starting point is 00:08:37 So that's gonna be great. The only worry I have with the dog and the baby is that, he ever taken care of like a one year old or a two year old and like you give them like fucking Cheerios, you know, on the high chair. And then they can distract them with the Cheerios. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you know what babies do?
Starting point is 00:08:57 They take that shit and they throw it right on the f**k. Cautious, absolutely. They take their food, the floor. This shit, the floor. And the best part is, is that like my mom, baby sat kids, so I saw this happen a lot. If a baby sees a dog, they will recognize that the dog will eat their food
Starting point is 00:09:16 and they will just throw food at the dog. So the dog is going to get fat. Like, like the dog will gain weight and become fatter. It's like there will dogs don't need to steal food from baby baby will gladly hand food to dog. Yeah, no, the baby, the high chair to ground pipeline is quite complete and there will be Congress between the two. Yeah, there will be an agreement. Good luck.
Starting point is 00:09:45 So luckily, like Zangief's like actually like pretty thin furting the Spooldog. So if he gains a little chunky, then he'll just go a little slower. It's a little slower. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh, let's see, that's what's going on with Pat's life. Is that I can dog and baby coexisting happily.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Cool. I gotta say though, like be like sitting on the couch, is that I a dog and dog and baby coexisting happily. Cool. I gotta say though, like, be it like sitting on the couch, like with like your infant, and then your big fat dog is on your lap, and you're like fully trapped, like fully trapped, like I wouldn't be able to pull the dog off me with the one arm, right?
Starting point is 00:10:24 Feels good, man. Okay. And then the cat comes to bug you, and you're like, I'm just a wash in children right now. This is good. I'm, yeah, just to rewind a bit, you said he is thin for a bulldog. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:41 That's why I was at, yeah, no, Zanghi, I mean, you've seen photos. You've seen photos. He is thin for a bulldog. Oh, yeah, that's why you yeah, no Zangie if you I mean you've seen you've seen you've seen photos He is he is thin for a bulldog. He is 75 pounds He could easily get to a hundred if I just let him eat whatever he wanted Bulldogs are hard to keep thin they're hard to keep thin because they'll eat until they die That's crazy. Wow. So somebody in the chest is 75 is then for his frame. Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:09 My bulldog is actually quite tall and long and shouldered for an English bulldog. He's like a good 30% larger than your average dog. But, you know, people let him get super fat. Well, you're you're you calling him a choker and here he is practically being a runway model. Like the main thing is like if you if you you're supposed to be able to feel your dog's ribs. Okay. Yeah. Right. Right. Right. Right. Dog fat is not the same as people fat. If you could feel my ribs right now, woolly, I'd first tell you to stop, but secondly, I would be like, I should get a fucking hamburger, that's too
Starting point is 00:11:51 much, right? So I can feel Gief's ribs. They're in there, they're a little bit on the end, but I can feel them. But people are like, no, man, dogs are supposed to have the same body proportion as a human. Like, do you know that's too much? Yeah, I mean, it's also breed dependent, right? Like, Greyhounds are nothing but ribs. Right. Yeah, they're... They look...
Starting point is 00:12:14 Yeah. They look like they're made out of fucking glass and timber. Yeah. I actually, I mentioned that the long ago, but like, I have access to ribs now when I lie down. I'm like, oh, there they are. How about that? Oh, really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:28 When I'm lying down, they stick out and they protrude in. That's the most cool. It's why it's kind of weird. I'm like, I've literally never had that in my entire life. It's very weird. Never? Never. That's the first time I've ever think of that I've had that.
Starting point is 00:12:44 So, yeah. That's cool, man. Ribs unlocked exactly. Good for you. I do have bodes. Never never that's never had an I first time I've got you never think of that I've had that so they yeah That's cool man ribs unlocked exactly you I do have boats. I can confirm firsthand And yeah, I think this week is gonna be the should be the end of the program So I'm going in for the final like scans and then MRIs and running tests and everything like that, but the conclusion of the arc. Right back to sugar! Nothing happened! Actually, at this point I've been eating sugar regularly. I've been having just like a fairly balanced intake of everything. And yeah, it seems as if my body is like used to burning whatever the
Starting point is 00:13:27 fuck I put in it, like the engine's going. Cole has been shoveled into the flames, so that's nice. And yeah, I guess after this point, it's like you are released to do what you will, and now I have to kind of figure out how to take. Don't fuck it up. Don't fuck it up. Exactly. How to take what you've learned, apply it to the real world and don't fuck it up.
Starting point is 00:13:55 But I think I've already kind of mostly figured it out. So should be cool. And yeah, well I got some other other things to do like a like I also always wanted to be like, okay, well, once I get, once I get smaller, I can get more ink because I don't want that to be weirdly misshapen once it's shrinks on me if I got it while I was big. I mentioned it a some time ago as well. So, hey, I get to get tattoos are on your skin part.
Starting point is 00:14:25 They are. Skin part can change. So I get to get my reward, which is, I've been wanting for years now. So I'm gonna start planning that out as well into the next steps. But yeah, I guess week wise, what's going on? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Okay. So, I made it to Baldur's Gate 3's second act after multiple weeks of the first one, where the second act turns into Bloodborne. Yeah, that game's cool. And oh boy, it's cool. But more than me playing that, what, what did you think of Baldur's Gate three? Well, by the way, hey, I want to say it was a lot of fun to, to guest off. Yeah, that was a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Yeah, that was, that was fun. The, uh, the fucking, the high note exit always always toss the dagger and run away run out of the room is always a good way. Yeah, just leave a gun on the table. It did you know that he's getting more pies than you are? Goodbye. Yeah, it was really cool.
Starting point is 00:15:42 I think I'm right, like we're talking about with Reggie afterwards too. He definitely, I gave him some prep to know, hey, this is going to be a lot of options. This is going to be a lot going on because he had no experience and we'll neither deny. It's definitely an intimidating interface to approach and learn as you go. There's a lot. Yeah, so I Think it I think we did find for the Plan which was to just roll with it whatever the game does we just go with it and see what it is what see what's possible but Like every time it's not your turn
Starting point is 00:16:25 or is your turn in combat, and you're kind of like going through the wheel of options and using bonus actions or key, or you can move a little bit further, but now you can dash or you can't. That whole system is like, yeah, it's just, there's a lot to learn and a lot to get used to.
Starting point is 00:16:45 So, for the first while, I think, you're going to just see me and Reggie just like, okay, hit the button, what's possible. If it's all grayed out, then I guess my turn is over. That's a fairly decent way of interpreting the action economy. Which is like, what can I do? What is great out? Like, works. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:12 There's a lot that happened where I was like, oh, I guess my turn is over, but it wasn't. You know, or I was like, oh, I moved. But actually, your second action could reach a little bit further, you know, and things like that. So, there's always just a moment of like, oh, I moved, but actually your second action could reach a little bit further, you know, and things like that. So it's not, there's always just a moment of like, I know your turn's probably done, but I'm gonna come back to the second character
Starting point is 00:17:32 and just check to make sure actually it is. Yeah. You know, and there's a million other things as well that are just, you have to just get used to this if you've never done it before. So pretty intimidating up front with that. It's a completely realized like fifth edition D&D put into video game format, but like, so on mouse and keyboard and controller, there are various things that are easier or harder.
Starting point is 00:18:02 There's just so many goddamn like actual actions and or variations. Like it was last week, despite playing the game for like, fucking 60 hours. That was like, Hey, how do you end concentrated abilities? Hmm. You hold triangle on the fucking radio menu. Oh, okay. Oh, just a different button prompt entirely. Okay. There are people There are people like for weeks on the games release like how do I make everyone in my group sneak at one time?
Starting point is 00:18:32 How does everyone how do I pull out a Torch for everybody right right and just like various little fucking things so there's and's also, I've talked about this in stealth games, but like, whatever a game has a stealth system, there's like a million checks you have to go through where you're like, okay, hold on. What does the programmer of this game think that means? Because some de-ent games only care about line of sight. Some games care about whether you're in a crouching state or a standing state. Some games care about whether you're standing in grass or not standing in grass.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Some games care about whether it's light or dark outside. And all of these rules interchange and interplay with each other as well as sound effects, speed of running versus walking versus crawling on a slight tilt on the analog stick. There's so many different possible things that can be considered stealth that you can't know until you do it a couple times to realize what the game's limitations are, right? Did you figure out which of those factors are a factor in BG3? No, I think we go.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Okay, yeah, because some of the ones you mentioned are factors. But some are not. Right, so. Okay, so here's the factors. How high is your stealth number of your skill? Right, straight up. Because when somebody looks at you, you roll to see if you stay hidden.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Are you in line of sight? Line of sight's the biggest one by far, right? And then the third one is light level, which is why there's in darkness, out of darkness, and partially in darkness. Okay. That's your criteria. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Cause that's your criteria. Cause that moment when we crouched up and crawled into the abandoned building, there were, you know, the thieves were and stuff, the bandits, like there was a bit of like, okay, now you're in stealth mode. And then like, I'm like, all right, these guys are having a conversation. Now, if I walk out into broad daylight, it seems like in some games, that would be a really obvious move. But maybe in
Starting point is 00:20:33 this game, if they're in conversation, then merely approaching the circle of influence will trigger the cutscene in stealth mode, you know? So you're like, I don't know which one of the rules this game is going to apply. So that's just going to have to be brushing rubbing your face up against it until you figure it out. And so it's line of it's line of sight stealth number and light. And so those are the three. Right. And similar to that also is things where archer accuracy is like, I'm like, so what affects this? If I get closer, does the number go up?
Starting point is 00:21:04 It's like, yes, but then there's high ground and it's like okay now Was that door in the way or is it not in the way and then like throwing thing accuracy? Yeah, so then your age to tax is high and low ground it's Within your you're within the preferred distance of the weapon and within the max distance of the weapon So there is if they have particularly high defense you're within the preferred distance of the weapon and within the max distance of the weapon. So there is, if they have particularly high defense. So there's a bunch of stuff there where it's like, right, on table top, we would just say this out loud verbally and then the DM would say whatever in response. But in the game system, you do have to kind of figure out what it cares about and doesn't care about.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Because then you can overthink things and jump to locations you don't need to if it doesn't care about that aspect of, you know. What I really like is the, on the controller it's a touchpad, it brings up the, you know, hey, I don't know what something on this item means and you click it and it just provides you with this fucking Explosion of tool tips that scrolls down. It's like every single term
Starting point is 00:22:16 On this description that you could it could be a term you don't understand Will be explained at some point it goes what's advantage? What's disadvantage? What's conditional? what's advantage? What's disadvantage? What's conditional? What's this? What's that? Yeah. But instead of being like,
Starting point is 00:22:32 hey, Jimmy, the DM, what does this mean? It's like essentially going like go into your own miniature little players rulebook and look for yourself. There's so many interactions that I am still dealing with and understanding. So I told you last week, like I was talking a page, maybe that was on my stream. Yeah, it was on my stream.
Starting point is 00:22:55 I was like, page wanted to steal something from one of the druids. And I'm like, good luck with that. This particular druids in a room with like eight people, you'll never be able to break line of sight. And then she said, well, what if I turn off all the candles in the room? And she turned off all the candles in the room. And it broke everyone's line of sight because it was too dark. And then she stole it. And she got into an area like, she got into like a treasure fault area that took me like six streams to get into because I did the quest to do it.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Interesting. Just broken. Interesting. That's pretty cool. Yeah. I think so like that stuff always is going to come into play once you're thinking outside the box and I guess you know what the limitations or lack there of kind of are. You know, like if you were aware of the fact that you can stack a box,
Starting point is 00:23:46 then you were aware of the fact that you can stand on it, then you get that the height of this barrier is not gonna get in your way. But I think, so like the way, again, like the way like Reggie kind of walked into it, like for me, I'm like, okay, I have some, you did quote unquote none. I have some old ass
Starting point is 00:24:06 outdated D&D knowledge with how things go. With him, he doesn't have any. So I'm just thinking, like, if people that are unfamiliar with the genre entirely happen to turn this game on and jump into it for the first time, The onboarding aspect is going to be one where it's not like they won't know what to do. I think they just won't be being particularly creative inherently. I think you will just be walking up to enemies and doing your default attacks already. I have had a couple moments.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Until the community aspect is brought into play to teach you other moments of like personal creativity in which I was like, yeah, yeah, I'm doing it, right? More often than not, I have had moments of dealing with an encounter and then afterwards being like, oh, I bet I could have done that more interesting like. So like in particular, there's a boss fight Oh, I bet I could have done that more interesting like. So like in particular, there's a boss fight in which there's a stage hazard you can
Starting point is 00:25:13 kill the boss with, right? I had beat that boss down like 80, 90% the hard way before realizing, oh, I bet I could use the stage hazard and Then by the time I could get the boss to the stage hazard. I just beat it. You already did it anyway Yeah, and I was like yeah, you don't you don't need to you don't need to fucking use the fancy Environmental shit if you just hit it hard enough So this is a game that has theabaldors Gate 3's, you know, it's gone from early access into final release and I know it's like it's crossed the finish line and they're going to keep updating it.
Starting point is 00:25:52 But I think something that would be pretty cool to implement would be something that, um, because again, there's always the, you know, there's an online community of people that can kind of talk about how creative you should play these games and stuff, but whenever it's in the game, I always like when you can kind of hint at things, right? So I've been playing, I went, I told you I went back to Darkest Dungeon 2 and I've been playing a bunch more of that because it's just, I fucking love it. Something cool about that game is, you know, you have a ton of classes and you have a ton of abilities that you unlock for each class and you can play in a bunch of different styles and the synergy between different characters is not always inherently obvious because you have to tinker an experiment with your builds to see what works and what doesn't. But something you get is there will be paths for each class that you unlock that change the ability slightly to
Starting point is 00:26:47 like custom grooves almost. This makes it so that you have a little less life, but you do more damage depending on where you're ranked, whether it's 1, 2, 3, or 4 on the screen. Or you'll get a trinket or an item for that class that says like when you use this ability it changes so that you actually get you steal two of the enemy's puffs instead of like your usual thing right. And so you'll get these little hints in the form of items and paths in the game that go oh if I want to start thinking differently about this approach, I can. And it's not out and right telling you, like, here's another way to play the game directly, but it's kind of
Starting point is 00:27:32 implying this is what you could start thinking about. Yeah. Bollersgate 3 does not do that. Yeah. It just has everything out for you to fuck with. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes achievements can, it will hint at like,
Starting point is 00:27:47 oh, solve this thing in an unconventional manner. Most people who didn't, the boss I'm mentioning, most people who didn't use the stage hazard only found out about the stage hazard because you beat the boss without using it and it gives you an achievement. Hey, you beat the boss without you stage. Okay, okay, there you go.
Starting point is 00:28:04 You go fucking life. What are you talking achievement. Hey, you beat the boss. You can stay in there. Okay, okay, okay, there you go. You go, fucking life. What are you talking about? Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, there's, I could think of like four or five things off the top of my head where like there's a huge enemy fortress that's like, oh wow, it'd be really hard to fight all, just get on the ground and fight all these guys. But the building has like a bunch of rafters you can get Oh wow, it'd be really hard to fight all, just get on the ground and fight all these guys. But the building has like a bunch of rafters
Starting point is 00:28:28 you can get onto and just hit people with arrows and they have no chance of getting up to get at you. I'm thinking of a three really, really tough level five guys that I was able to just charm my way out of it. But then after I charm my way out of it, I looked at the area and like the roof they were standing under could have collapsed and there was like one faulty beam that had a hit box.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Right, the area, okay, when you went to that little that little fucking temple, right, that had the bandits outside of it. Yep. And they were arguing. And the trap. Like the block of stone that's above them, right, that had the bandits outside of it. Yep. And they were arguing. And the trap. Like the block of stone that's above them, right? You, it doesn't point that out.
Starting point is 00:29:13 It doesn't highlight. But after the encounter I went, oh, I bet you I know what that, that block of stone was for. Did you break it? Yeah. So that's exactly it. We shot up at the string, created the hole, and then Reggie went to the gate to the door, and then Deceived his way in, started a fight in there, and in the meantime I split up and jumped in the hole because Contents you have to, yeah, and then we have a split battle where we're like I'm fucked over here and he's dealing over here And we're trying to get back together and it was kind of crazy, you know, so I in my game
Starting point is 00:29:51 There's a third way in there you go in through the back you go in through the exit And then you do all the the tomb stuff first Mm-hmm, and then you you come out and if you do that and you're coming out from the crypt all of their dialogue changes and they should to freak the fuck out because something's coming up out of the crypt. Okay, okay, interesting. And they think you're like ghosts or something. Nice. Yeah, so it just there would be it would be too overwhelming certainly to like, even imply the breadth of
Starting point is 00:30:28 options you can, you can get into. But like, if there was something that they got to at a certain point where, yeah, just like, like things that kind of imply things, you know, that, to start jogging your brain, I think to think outside the box, that could be interesting. No, no, it could be your brain. Yeah. It's fine. It's fine if you are like, I just want to do it this way.
Starting point is 00:30:55 And I'm also online and I'm going to be chatting with other people who are playing this game because you're going to get that experience anyway. Well, the end. So here's the thing, right? The system, the system is built open, and I feel like a lot of these things, you're not going to get the aha moment if a tool tip implied that maybe you should do it. Right? There's, there's a, like getting a tool tip that suggests, hey, maybe you should try
Starting point is 00:31:18 this. No, no, no, not a tool tip. No, that's not. No, I definitely don't want it to be a tool. I think that pops up overtly like that. You know what I'm thinking? Thinking of BioShock? I don't know if you've played BioShock one.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Yeah, how's it? But you get your electric bolt, power, and then you see a bunch of guys standing in water, and then Atlas goes, oh, and air boy, oh, they're stonning in water. Did you know you could electrocute, tell me, no water. Right, right right right right and then you're like oh cool so when the camera pans back in that area and you go upstairs and you see the
Starting point is 00:31:51 block that can drop I mean that's like signposted enough right that's a great example yeah if you're having a conversation with a bunch of assholes and then there's a hippo in the water behind them just just wash it its belly just rolling around you're like okay well cool right that that that's fine that'll always be in the water behind them, just wash it its belly, just rolling around. You're like, okay, well cool, right? That's fine, that'll always be the way to handle it in games. I'm thinking of like, yeah, I use the Darkest Dungeon example because it's like picking up an object
Starting point is 00:32:21 and then within its lore or within its description there's something there that makes you go, oh, I didn't even think about the possibility that you could combine this with that and, okay, maybe like a description on a spell is like, oh, the creator of the spell actually you know, was known for this. So yeah, it's- I feel like there's too many actual options and too many variations on things to do for that to actually be useful. do seriously. So that's not super clear the way I said it. But like when a spell in a game is like makes you invisible for 30 seconds and that, right? Your brain goes, okay, but it's invisibility in like game terms, right? So if I like fight someone or steal things,
Starting point is 00:33:20 the game is going to snap to me and go, hey, stop right there, criminal scum, or whatever, right? When you turn invisible in Baldur's Gate 3, until you fucking touch a person, you are fucking invisible with all the advantages that that includes, such as moving items, stealing items, moving switches, etc. Mm-hmm. Right?
Starting point is 00:33:52 Unless they have detect invisibility, but that's a whole different thing, right? Um, like I'm just thinking about today, this morning, I was watching the TikTok, and a gentleman came on going, he's bozgay three tips, haha, and I'm like, these are probably all garbage, but I'll give it a shot.
Starting point is 00:34:15 And the first one in this man's video was, did you know that if NPCs get killed in a cutscene, but you attack, because you know there's an attack button in most interactions. Right. Like, if you attack before that happens, they won't be dead because they didn't get killed. That sounds like a good break triggers.
Starting point is 00:34:39 They specifically mentioned a late Act One encounter where if you decide to interrupt the cutscene by attacking before some people get shot, you'll save them and then the door that gets locked in the cutscene is open because the cutscene didn't finish. Right, right, right. Even triggers that occur in game world that should be just cinematic transitions from one loading zone to another actually are affected by your decisions. Yeah, like there's all sorts of stupid shit like that. There's like, later on, if you use a wizard in your party,
Starting point is 00:35:25 you get to use something called counter spell, which is a level three spell, you get a level five. If you fight a necromancer, and the first turn of the necromancer is to, you know, boss summon 40 guys, but you have counter spell on and just go, no. But you have counter spell on and just go no. Then the fight is no longer you against a guy in 40 skeletons. It's you against some guy that you're not letting cast spells.
Starting point is 00:35:56 I think it's run over there. Just whoop on them. I feel like one aspect of the the tabletop adventure that it was fun that kind of captures some of this energy is like You know The so like my my history teacher back in high school like he ran his D&D campaign in his class as well And like he had his bigger more professional setup. We were kind of off on the side doing our own little thing professional setup we were kind of off on the side doing our own little thing. But like there would always be like oh yeah like so many games ago someone did some wild shit and it kind of becomes like a fun piece of lore and then that might come up in discussion at some point like or might be referenced in some way you know so. Some someone at an inn might be talking about that crazy necromancer that walked around
Starting point is 00:36:47 with dead bodies in his bag all the time and no one really knew why he did that. And that little conversation piece would just come up in some way. I totally understand what you're saying. Well, there are too many variations of these events. It's just a thought that that would be a really cool thing if it if they ever had the ability to do it game for just over a month now and
Starting point is 00:37:14 I just this morning Understood what so you know if you look at a door or a chest it has the sturdy Yes, yes, yes, so what that means as you have to beat a damaged threshold for it to take damage, right? So if you can't lock pick something and you have a big enough person, you can just smash the chest of bits and get all that shit. But what if you don't have a big enough person? Well, you can just pick the chest up and put it in your inventory
Starting point is 00:37:48 Then you can go to a in-game cliff Throw it off the side because fall damage is calculated as weight times height and Just pick and just like you have no one you can pick locks Yeah, just take every chest with you and Throw them off cliffs and the fucking ground will unlock them if you're willing to like spend the weight of Carrying that shit around, you know, which if you're a dumb strong person That has no lock picking ability, okay, and now, but here we go, game logic question, does the game care about the contents being affected by the fall damage? No. Is that a right? So, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:33 no, it does not. That may or may not. You'll get everything. There's no problem. Exactly. So, and that's something that may or may not apply based on how they decided to program it. You never know. Yeah. Yeah, no, they, they, the Dark Souls 2 says otherwise, right? The, the chest I mentioned is, is separate. Oh, glass does it. It's right. Okay, interesting.
Starting point is 00:38:56 There you go. Right. I don't believe that because I feel like a DM would be like, if you want to and then you toss it and then there'll be like, if you want to, and then you toss it, and then there'd be like, you hear a thud followed by the shattering of glass, you know? Because-
Starting point is 00:39:13 Yeah, no, the glass is not break, that person is wrong. Okay. Things are completely, the only thing that happens, and this is a real thing, if you decide to open the chest with a bomb, instead of like with the literal bomb or like fireball or something, the burning
Starting point is 00:39:35 ground effect on the ground will damage the items. Because now the item is out on the damaging floor and then it'll take. But yeah, no, you can smash that shit to bits and throw it off cliffs all you want. Yeah, so anyway, that's overall though. It is a system that I feel it's fucking cool. I just definitely want to spend time familiarizing and getting the gist of when it is in fact my turn or not or how my actions come back and the exact cost of that. And you know, just the ins and outs, the learning of the ropes, right, as you would in any game where you're provided with a ton of options right away.
Starting point is 00:40:26 I am reminded of like on boarding in the first time I ever played Souls where you're like, okay, you can't just walk up to everything and swing at it like any other action game. You have to realize that, you know, patience and poking and stamina matters and like you know, patience and poking and stamina matters and like, and in this case, we had, let's be real, like one real, real fight. The other fights were all kind of like, you know, simple swing edit, the things going down in one or two.
Starting point is 00:40:58 And in that real, real fight where like, things can go horribly wrong and the environment is popping off and stuff. I ran into at least three or four moments where I had an idea but it wasn't going to work out. And then I was like, okay, what else can I do if I can't do that? Maybe I can do this. And then I was like, oh wait, there's a trap system where now my party member can't move. You can walk over to them and free them, but how does the exact nature of that system work?
Starting point is 00:41:32 So there's a couple of things there where I'm like, okay, maybe sometimes I'm trying to think about what like wild solutions to problems that you can actually just solve very straight forward. to problems that you can actually just solve very straightforward. So, the best way that I can try and like contextualize that is every action you have in the game has a description of what it does. And thinking within, like thinking of those actions and descriptions as your tools, as your toolbox to solve problems. And like I said, taking the description on that text seriously. Yes. Right. So like, it's less about, it's less about what do you call, it's less about what do you call, it's less about thinking outside the box
Starting point is 00:42:28 and more like looking at the tools you have available and then being like, okay, what could I actually do with this tool as stated, right? So dip weapon is a really interesting one. You read dip weapon and it says dip weapon into any surface like water or fire or poison or whatever and gain that damage type on externs. If your party member gets hit with fireball, you can dip your weapon into the party member and get in the box. Right. Right, right, okay.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Yeah, if you, you know, if you found like there's little candles just around, like totally uses candle, dropping items takes no turns, like no actions. You can, if your archer wants to drop a candle next to them, they can use bonus action dip and get 1D4 extra fire damage on their bow and arrow for the whole combat. Because you've got a candle
Starting point is 00:43:34 that you're dipping your fucking arrows into. Dip it up, bro. That's pretty sick. Yeah, so I don't have God. I don't remember the examples, but I remember, when I saw Rebuke on Dead, Turn on Dead, and I'm like, oh, that's unlocking a memory of like, that was a spell that could be exploited to shit
Starting point is 00:44:01 by combining it with nonsense, loop fucking casting that on an object, and then throwing that object in a place to cause them to move, and then once they're moving, you can kinda kite the undead into like a sheep dog. And like turn undead was I remember that being an access on opening point to breaking the system in ways that,
Starting point is 00:44:27 you know, you otherwise wouldn't expect it to, you know, and so I'm hoping that in this game, you can do similar nonsense and chicanery with it. The current most busted thing that I, you know what? Okay. I have thought about this in my brain in between sessions and It should work the way I think it will And I will look over in a chat and they will tell me whether or not the game will correctly work in the way that it should There is a spell called sanctuary that cleric skit which makes you unable to attack
Starting point is 00:45:06 spell called Sanctuary that Clarex get, which makes you unable to attack, but it makes you unable to be attacked. It basically turns your character off for combat purposes for a little bit. There's also ability called Spirit Guardians that causes this massive AoE of little spirits to do damage around you. I bet you, if I cast spirit guardians on myself and have a big wide A O E of permanent damage and then cast guard day, everyone's already telling me that. Yeah. And then put sanctuary on myself. No one can attack me, but I'm just the big fucking moving A O E bomb that no one can interact with. Nice.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Mm-hmm. Great. Perfect. It's my favorite thing to do with Shadowheart. Exactly. See, that's what I mean. Like, things work the way they're supposed to work. Like, we have spent so many video games,
Starting point is 00:46:01 like, looking at, like, this move lets you assassinate from darkness, but like darkness is actually like a binary state and like this part of the level that looks dark, but it doesn't count as the darkness tag and so then you can't assassinate and then assassinate doesn't do a full damage. It actually
Starting point is 00:46:16 does like a damage multiplier and right in all this fucking nonsense. It's like no. Sanctuary says if I don't attack No one is allowed to attack me And this move is not an attack Therefore I should be able to combine them good. I Think I'm gonna need a I'm gonna need a logic lab
Starting point is 00:46:50 I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna need an ability to lab the thought process a little bit. But I really, really like that. Oh, you need two party members to do it. Oh, that makes sense. I like that moment of like, like, yeah, like, hold on, what if you could do this, you know, and then like, testing that out and testing the waters and shit, like, I love doing that in any game really. In this case, if you can do that in a scenario and actually have it.
Starting point is 00:47:15 Yeah, the lab in Balvers Gate 3 is known as the quick save system. Right, right, right, right. Which I'm, I'm not too sure how to approach, I suppose, because I'm like, I kind of want to fuck around and find out, but I also, because I'm streaming and you're going with whatever your decisions are, you don't want to like, fuck, futs with that too much,
Starting point is 00:47:38 because I don't know, I assume there's some kind of code of, so I've been quick saving and quick loading on like, hey, I bet this would work. And then sometimes it doesn't work like the way I want it to. Yeah. And I'm not, I'm like, if I didn't have quick save, I wouldn't have tried this zany interaction. Right. Yeah, yeah, so like, if I, so for example,
Starting point is 00:48:02 if I quick save and then, I'm like, oh, quick save and then, um, uh, I'm like, oh, I wonder, yeah, you wonder if you can try this thing and then you try it and it fails, you go, okay, reload, that seems fair versus if you quick save and then, like, oh, I fell, I stepped into a trap, uh, unload that. I don't want to, you know, that element of surprise was when it was like ambushed me or whatever. It's like, no, you should go with that. That, that, that.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Yeah, so like learning how to pick pocket people correctly took a lot of quick saves because like it's a complicated system that has a lot of moving parts. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, right. I'm like, I'm a month in the game and that's like, I'm like a third through. Oh, but I'm already like, want to go back and do it better. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Like, I forget where I heard it. I forget where I heard it. I think it was on the John Pompass in which they were talking to like somebody who had recently started playing games. And they describe like, yeah, I beat it, but like, I want to do it again because I feel like I can do it better. Right? Like, there's a lot of situations that I look back on and like, I bet I can, I bet I, I can also tell.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Bet I could do more interesting. I can tell right away to, by the way, that tutorial and fight started and by the way The little encounter with the with the dying Mindflayer Went that there will also be moments of Yeah, there'll be moments of like I want to do three things Okay, here. Let me just check this out quick before I do the other two and then you get locked into some shit right you you have walked into the threshold that makes the cutscene occur and that's another reason to be like, okay, hold on quick, save. I think the dev's realization of the type of game they were
Starting point is 00:49:57 making in regards to this is fully on display when you discover that there are no limits to when you can save and load the game. You can save the game in dialogue before you make decisions. You can save the game in combat at any time. But once you commit to an action and you're looking at dice, you can know what, you can't back out of that action. Yeah, so, hey, oh, I didn't think this,
Starting point is 00:50:23 okay, you have back out, whatever. Like, like if you were a crazy person and you were romancing your vampire boyfriend and wanting to get the highest amount of approval in every interaction, you could quick save every time you talk to them. Oh, God, no. And run through every option.
Starting point is 00:50:43 Oh, Jesus Christ. Until you found the ones that they liked the best. Yeah, yeah, you are Crazy person now to be fair when you were like, oh, you're botching it with shadow heart. Oh, I was botching it I'm like I bought you You know you there is a moment of like fuck no,, I don't want to botch it. No play it through Yeah play it through Susie made out with a mind-flair. What the fuck? Yeah, that happens There's that happens twice. Oh Big tongue. Oh
Starting point is 00:51:20 It's a whole thing damn I don't know. The game is just so like endlessly fascinating. Like even like every like half hour I encountered, like some kind of like interesting little diorama of events. Like I had God damn talk to animals on and I convinced a fucking a bunch of evil spiders to fucking unionize.
Starting point is 00:51:48 And because I was an oath-breaker, Paladins specifically, I got the advantage on telling them, you owe no loyalty to anyone. Like basically the only thing you have to lose is your chains. Nice. Do you realize that your entire week to week review of this game is just recapping wild moments of unexpected creative outcomes? That's it's like every single incredible. Yeah, every every every like like
Starting point is 00:52:22 Yeah, every, every, every like, like, uh, uh, eagle eye view of the game or anything related to its release or anything technical just comes back to, man, I what did this shit or I heard about this and it's just telling stories of things that went out. That's, that's what 100% of your game. Yeah, no, there's technical problems. There's a, there's an NPC stuck under the floor in One of my in town areas right now and apparently I need to like hack the game to get him up above the floor Oh, you didn't do that. You didn't do that No, I did not do that. Okay. There's a character that if you kill a cow
Starting point is 00:52:59 Will not spawn in the second act, but he's actually there He's under the floor because for some reason, his location is tied to the location of the cow, which is no longer there. So if anybody knows how to get damn on out of the ground, hit me up on Twitter. I would like to get him out of the ground. So I can talk to him.
Starting point is 00:53:20 You don't enter like a hostile state when you get near, do you? Because the most annoying thing in the world is when a game has an enemy that falls out, but you so you can't ever exit. No, he's like, he's a fucking. He's a he's a blacksmith. I can't talk to him. And it's like I would really like to talk to him because, uh, because he's important. Yeah. Also, I'm fully, I'm deep enough into the game that I have started to see a little bit of how the sausage is made.
Starting point is 00:53:54 OK. And there's some real, real, great through lines going through this game. So like, did you make it to the Grove? I don't think so. Okay, so there's a little town called the Druids Grove that is the first town, right? And you run into a ton of teaflings there.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Like, like little... Oh, I think we saw it in the cutscene of the craft. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so you meet like 30 people there, right? And everybody who makes it to the end of act one will continue into act two. And everybody who made and most of the people who make it through act two will continue in act three because of course we're all going to the same place. We're all on the road to Baldur's Gate, right? What this means is that when I was playing my stream
Starting point is 00:54:50 and there were, you know, some people don't catch every single stream, there are a couple people that were like, hey Pat, what happened to so and so? Where are they at? And I'm like, yeah, you know what? They must have met with an unfortunate accident. At some point during my stream, they might have got, it could have been an accident.
Starting point is 00:55:17 But like the fact that, the fact that there was an NPC that came to talk to me and Was literally the only tiefling I did not meet at the camp and had a line of dialogue of hey I was at the camp. I guess we we kept passing by each other because we've never spoken But I'm and then they hit you with your their introduction Like it's Like it's, ah, it just goes. I have to say, I went through a couple of circles with a Stereon because it's like, okay, I heard about how everyone's
Starting point is 00:55:54 like fucking thirst and uphard over this character. And I mean, a Starium. So, well, so that's it. I saw, because I didn't, I didn't hear the cutscene voice I didn't hear any of that I just saw the picture of the guy and I saw everyone me man. So I was like, okay So this is gonna be like that the same hot boy energy of any of the fucking multiple S star rank
Starting point is 00:56:20 Grand Blue you know slutty boys,. Ooh, right, right, right. And that was, yeah, no. Yeah, and that's what I was expecting. I'm expecting Gacha Hot Boy character energy, and that's what everyone's getting on about, right? Yeah. And then he starts, oh, he opens his mouth and he's like, darling, it's nervioso.
Starting point is 00:56:41 Oh, no, like, what the fuck is this? How is this attractive, right? And then, but then you give it a minute and I'm like, oh, it's Tim Curry in Rocky Horror Energy. Okay, so it is, it's, like me and Paige were talking about this and we went and looked and we found exactly, exactly what the inspirations are.
Starting point is 00:57:11 That is one of them. Okay. For the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder,
Starting point is 00:57:19 for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the murder, for the the murder, for the murder, for the murder, Labyrinth. David Bowling, you're like, okay, okay, okay, yeah. So that's it, because I'm like, by any other metric,
Starting point is 00:57:34 like anyone who sounds like that is gonna be revolting, but it's that energy, it's that okay, right. Like hot slut Brit dude Of course Fuck right I think my favorite interaction with Astarion was like the very first one I had where he he got the drop on me and I went fuck it melee and then headbutted the shit out of him Yeah, I got him and then then he like, oh congrats, you didn't get the drop on nothing. I'm because I'm,
Starting point is 00:58:13 because I also just, my reference point on that voice also goes back to the SNL skit with the British dudes with the fucking long coats and the wigs going, yes, Lord. Yes, Lord. Ah. It's, it is. So it says a lot that the first three party members that you are going to run into are
Starting point is 00:58:40 like garbage people. Like the first thing out of Shadow Hearts' mouth is fucking help me. The second thing is you, one of them. And the third thing is don't let me get it. Don't touch my box. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, well to be fair, fourth guy, like,
Starting point is 00:59:00 Mage Dude is just like, hey, I'm just kind of a, yeah, no, no. I'm a Charmondude. I'm here. I sound like I'm from the IT crowd. Yeah, you know, and I'm I got my nice little And then you and my scruff going you run into layzel and layzel is part of the fucking green Like clan fucking society And then a star in is fucking fucking walking red flag toxic motherfucker Yeah, I'm gonna need them in an it's a will eat your shoes
Starting point is 00:59:34 I'm gonna need some time with these folks to figure out okay When I tell you that gal will steal and eat your shoes That's I'm not exaggerating. That is a real, that is real. He seems the most normal up front, but he does doesn't eat. But then also you pull them out of a hole. So yeah. And then there's well, and well, this is a good guy. Well, this is a good guy. Once you correct the error that the game's textures.
Starting point is 01:00:06 Oh, once. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah, games just like, it's just so much shit in there. It fulfills the fantasy of playing a video game and going, hey, what if I did that? I can really only compare to like Zelda, like,
Starting point is 01:00:25 tears the kingdom of like experimenting. Hey, would this work? And the answer is usually like, yeah, kind of at least. At least kind of. But everything you do in a Zelda game will never have social ramifications because you don't know. No, that's right. You don't ever, there's nothing like that.
Starting point is 01:00:40 You don't talk to anybody. Yeah. So like, here's a really good example, right? So um, Karla, I don't know if you ran into her, but you've probably seen her. She's the big red barbarian lady, Teeflin. Uh, I think we scrolled past it on the NPC list. Okay. You know, I'll just get you a fucking photo.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Yeah. I looked at it again. I looked at all the playable options. Okay. So, she is a cool demon looking lady that broke out of hell bondage. She was having to work for devil's sucked ass. She broke free, so she's real like, you know, freedom and good times and all that shit. I was playing as an oath breaker paladin because I've decided to be a piece of shit and
Starting point is 01:01:23 I used control undead, which is a domination spell, right? Casting it in her presence, removed half of my approval with her. Whoa. Because she hates it. Yeah. She hates it.
Starting point is 01:01:41 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So much. I'm like, lady, I'm controlling a corpse, but even that is like, no, no, bad. A authoritarian, yeah, yeah. Right. The corpse deserves its freedom. There's a character in your party that is like, de-terrified of wolves. So if you're, if you're playing a druid and you wild shape into a wolf, they'll freak
Starting point is 01:02:04 the fuck out. Right? Oh, there's so fucking much. And I mean, yeah, you just, and that's the kind of shit you just got to hit organic, Lou. Um, yeah. Okay, so, Baller J3 is pretty good to you.
Starting point is 01:02:20 I would recommend to you personally to just throw that session away and just start over on your own time and just go as slow as you possibly want. Okay, so tell me now about the pocket dimension I have to enter so that I can spend time with AC6 because, yeah. Yeah, like what so what like on how hat without fucking becoming Dr. Manhattan? How? Okay, you know that part in the robot show where the robot man is boosting as hard as he can
Starting point is 01:02:58 towards like a big cannon. And then the cannon shoots and then they do a quick boost to the side and the cannon misses. That's correct. And then they use their laser sword to go, wow. Yes. And then kill the cannon. Yeah, it turns out you do that all the time in AC6.
Starting point is 01:03:14 Would you believe that's my favorite shit in the world? Yeah, I would. Yeah, because it's cool as hell. Oh. Also, I want to point out there's a there's a there's a there's a fun thing You know how we've all made fun of like CBT with cognitive talking about cognitive behavioral therapy No, I'm talking about the closed beta test. I'm talking about the Capcom beta test Ah talk it right torture AC6
Starting point is 01:03:43 I'm talking right torture AC six AC six is like the worst in that like are we talking like hey man? Oh man, I was juking around and I was I was like dodging Assassin's Creed Yeah, and oh man. I kept hearing danger because of because of the all the enemy aircraft when I was playing Ace combat six ace combat animal crossing assassins Creed armored core craft when I was playing Ace Combat 6. Ace Combat Animal Crossing Assassin's Creed, Armored Core. I literally... It's bad.
Starting point is 01:04:10 Yeah. It's not. It's real bad. I just had another one. Yeah, it's fucking... But so I have been playing... Astral Chain. Astral Chain.
Starting point is 01:04:23 I have been playing... Axon Core 6. Which is an Armored Core-S, playing the Astral Chain, the Astral Chain, I have been playing the Armor Corps 6, which is an armored core-ass, armored core- Advent children. To those, to people who were not familiar with armored core, like totally never really touched it. The easiest way to explain it is take the Soul Series, right, and replace everyone with robots and
Starting point is 01:04:49 Remember how demon souls was mission-based, but then every game became more interconnected after that Go in the other direction from demon souls and more mission-based, okay Because Jean made a fananta, Gene Park, friend of the show, wonderful guy, made an excellent point. Armored core is not a robot souls-like. Demon souls is a fantasy armored core.
Starting point is 01:05:17 Right. Demon souls uses equip load and shoulder buttons and both analog sticks to control. Well, so fuck souls games. Armored core has, if I'm not mistaken, load and shoulder buttons and both analog sticks to control. Well, so fucks those games. Armored core has, if I'm not mistaken, always been mission, do your output, set up your thing, your loadout for this mission,
Starting point is 01:05:35 do what this mission requires, go back and change it all up for the next one, no? Hey, did you get your ass beaten that mission? Congrats. Let's take a look at your mission costs. Yeah, right minus your mission your mission reward It's it's Ah, the game is totally carried by its controls because it controls Exactly the way you think it should in your mind
Starting point is 01:06:08 Like the way boosting jumping, dashing, quick boosting, aiming, locking on, missile locking, spreading the missile lock. No AC fingers required holding the controller backwards with the Triggers, one of the top ends, the sticks in your digits. So one of the things that I remember, I feel so smart about this, I remember talking when Vati put out the video that had no UI. I was like, it really looks like it has a traditional dark soul style lock on. And I think that it should have a traditional dark soul style lock on if you want it for things that move really fast because then you can you know just control and make it go fast
Starting point is 01:06:46 and everyone told me I was fucking stupid and no it totally has a traditional dark soul style lock on that you only use for priority targets that are really fast are really big right so the average whatever generic unmanned robots helicopters helicopters, tanks, no usual, yeah, use the softlock. Have your camera just point where it is. And if it's on the screen and it's within the bounding box of your robot, your robot will aim and shoot, wherever. However, if you are fighting another armored corps
Starting point is 01:07:27 or a big, big, old boss robot, you use target lock at which point your robot will turn to face them like you would expect, right? And then your right thumb is free to do things like jump or quick boost, which is the dodge equivalent within the actual thing. However, if the target is so fast that they are able to blow through, blow past you off the screen, the lock will break. So like things that are just complete speed demons will and kind of should break your lock.
Starting point is 01:08:08 Anything you will have to you will have to re acquire them a rival or a boss or a anything that's as good as you which you that makes sense. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I got like a nearly back to back like Wednesday, C6 followed by this isn't FF9 like message combo where you're just like, yeah. You just fight to the death y'all. One of the other things is that you can unlock manual aiming for a third way in which you just turn all of the other things is that you can unlock manual aiming for a third way in which you just turn All of the computerized aim assist completely off and get like a fucking FPS cursor. Oh wow
Starting point is 01:08:53 Um, and I'm looking at this and I'm like What is what it's so fast? What is this for and the answer is it's for sniping people way outside your range Like like outside your your your acquisition range. Is there any PVP? Yeah, okay sure is so because I'm I'm immediately The first thing I think is something like that would probably be like a skill Option for people who are amazing at aiming. That would be, I don't know. Okay.
Starting point is 01:09:30 I don't know. So, hey man, you do a mission, then you go back to, then you go back to assembly and you fuck with your robot parts and the robot parts all seem very well balanced. Like, the starting robot that you start with in the tutorial is pretty good. Okay. Like, I wanted to go either way heavier or way lighter, but regardless, I went and fucked with that and was like, yeah, no, this is a decent thing.
Starting point is 01:10:04 I put another shoulder weapon on the left shoulder, but otherwise in that, the assault rifle you start with is a pretty good assault rifle. It has uses. I've all a lot of the older games I almost exclusively would hear about the PVP aspect, especially long after the game comes out. The PVP element is what kind of survives on and people have like tournaments
Starting point is 01:10:26 and builds and all that stuff. I played a couple PVP matches and they seem solid. Yeah. So in this case, I, it hasn't come up. I haven't heard much about it. So that's why I guess I'm asking. But is it like a dedicated like mode or is it like a passive aspect of the game? It's a you go into the nest menu and the new search for a room where you create a room. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:10:55 No matchmaking kind of a bummer, but So then levels and like tack and equipment and the ability to not get annihilated by someone with an incredible Mac is just up in the air. I'm going to say that and this is actually really important. Soul memory. My Mac is not stronger than when I started. It's more special. Tunes.
Starting point is 01:11:29 It's tuned. Yeah. Right. Okay. Most, most parts are side grades. Like I switched from the assault rifle to shotguns, and then I switched to a different shotgun, which does weigh more damage, but it takes way longer to reload.
Starting point is 01:11:49 That side grades will still wreck your shit if they're specialized to melt. Someone that doesn't know how to deal, of course. Right? But PVP is not super interesting to me on this. For me, there's the arena, MVP is not super interesting to me on this. For me, there's the arena, which is you're fighting against like AI opponents of various weird ass builds.
Starting point is 01:12:11 And then there's the missions themselves, which it's not, it's interesting. When you die and you go to a checkpoint, you have the ability to go back into your garage and switch your shit out with anything you currently own. And the reason for this is that I ran up against a three of the very large scale bosses so far. And people are getting filtered the fuck out by these.
Starting point is 01:12:41 I hear, I'm hearing a lot about that first time. They are getting absolutely annihilated by some of these things. And the thing that people are not kind of realizing is that they're not like Sekiro reflex tests. They're like the robot that you have built is not working out for this robot.
Starting point is 01:13:07 You need to change up your character entirely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I was running the lightest robot I could get a hold of with the most melee weapons and shotguns on top. Like I wanted to be nose to nose on everything. And then I ran into a Balteias who is the act one boss who is a fucking mother fucker. And that took me a bit to deal with because I had to modify the way I was doing something to make it work. And then I'm looking at people like just use the
Starting point is 01:13:44 bubble, you know, the bubble cannons that are good for dismantling shields. And then I'm looking at people, like just use the bubble, you know, the bubble cannons that are good for dismantling shields. And I'm like, oh, I should have done that. That would have been much easier. So it would have been much, much easier. So the whole like, the deprived can always find their way
Starting point is 01:13:58 through the challenge thing. It's not applying here because if you're built sucks, then there's unavoidable damage. Like, like there's a boss that has a weak point on the roof of the mech. And that's like if you have quad legs and you can hover above the boss for 45 seconds and just shoot directly into the weak point. Yeah, that's a lot easier. That's a lot easier than trying to fight the boss normally.
Starting point is 01:14:24 Cool. Cool. Cool. That's fun. Yeah, that's, and I mean, you know, I, I, another, I, here's the, it's like, it's, I guess, another from soft game, another holy shit. What, like, is this actually meant to be this hard discussion, you know, and so on, even though, again, this is a legacy franchise, right?
Starting point is 01:14:48 So- The first boss that you have to fight with like us, with a locked-in robot, is really hard. Like, it's actually, like the helicopter that you fight in the first level before you're able to change your neck out. Yeah, it's actually really hard. It's much more difficult than I would expect.
Starting point is 01:15:15 The memories I have of my roommate playing it back in the day also didn't really seem like they were particularly, they didn't look very easy either. Like the old games look pretty fucking hard. I also, I'm thinking like, wasn't there like, isn't there usually like a main numbered title and then like two or three versions after that add more and get more difficult and add complexity to it, right? Like, or something to that effect. So, like, there's an expectation of, like, you've mastered the, what's come before. So, we're juicing that shit up,
Starting point is 01:15:51 and here comes the next level of challenge, right? Oh, yeah, so a really good example. There's an early, early act one mission in which the mid boss is, hey, you are now going to be fighting an enemy AC. And it is an enemy AC that has interesting equipment and is piloted by a good AI pilot, right? I'm halfway through Act 2 and at the end of the mission, it's like, hey, you will now be fighting two enemy ACs with good ass
Starting point is 01:16:20 pilots. And this is my favorite part. Every single piece of equipment on these ACs is something that has never appeared before in the game. Oh wow. So you don't, like I'm looking at them and I'm like, I don't know what any of that shit does. Not a single fucking thing. I'm gonna have to learn by doing, I guess. So how did you handle the um?
Starting point is 01:16:46 I guess customization aspect of of all this uh, I I decided to put reverse joint legs on my on my boy and then I decided to go as light and I went on my Lanshaw guns Not literally. I mean as in like I like I know when it comes to mid-maxing versus just going with what you think is cool versus trying stuff out, like, there's always some goblins to get through. Not really. I don't think that's kind of an issue here because like, you're going to, you have to start with your legs first. Your leg is going to inform every single other thing about your build, right?
Starting point is 01:17:23 And you go, do I want to be, do I want to be reverse jointed, regular, bipedal, do I want to be quadruped, or do I want to be tank? And once you've made that, then you go, do I want to be, what weapons do I want to use? So then you go pick the weapons that you want to use. And then once you've got that, well, then you're going to pick your fire control system as ranges. Then you're going to be picking your generator to fit the needs of the weapons that you have, then you're gonna be picking the arms to fit the weight of
Starting point is 01:17:50 the weapons you've equipped, then you'll pick the chest and head for weight consideration, and then you're done. So, you never hit a point where you loaded out and then did a mission and you're like, ah, fuck, this is not optimal. And then... No, what I happened is I decided to go all in on the build that I really, really, really wanted to do. And then I hit Balteas, and my build was not good. Okay. Four Balteas.
Starting point is 01:18:16 But I had sold every other part, other than the ones that were currently on my robot. So even though I was going back to the checkpoint and could hit a symbol, I had nothing different to equip, and wasn't going to redo the mission. So fuck it, I'm going to learn how to do it with my laser sword, Goddammit. And I learned how to do it with my laser sword, Goddammit. And it was very, very, very, very helpful. I will say respect. As a fist swinger, when everyone yells
Starting point is 01:18:44 shut up, don't do it. I respect that. That's good Uh, and uh, now that I I have done so there's something really really really really important if you know anything about Armored Core 6 is the only thing anyone has to know You can sell back parts to the store at cost. Yay No downside. No downside to buying and trying out pieces and then selling them back. Beautiful, beautiful.
Starting point is 01:19:11 The other thing, and this is really important, if you go into AC data, you can save your AC layout. So I saved my fast guy and then I made a tetrapod build. So I saved my tetrapod build and then I made my tank. So then I saved my tank, right? And then I sold every single part. I sold every single part. And then when I went to go load the tetrapod,
Starting point is 01:19:35 it said, you don't have all the parts. Would you like us to buy them for? Wow. And then it buys back everything you need to make that build. Wow. What a And then it buys back everything you need to make that bill. Wow. What a fucking awesome.
Starting point is 01:19:48 Yes. The quality of life. That is very cool. Okay. Proud Souls all the way. Let the player play. Let the player fucking play. That is sick.
Starting point is 01:20:00 No downsides. So now, if I get to, now, the next time I go in the play, if I get into a sticky situation, I can just, I can just be like, I would like to switch. It's just time to glimpse or to survey. Or you know, whatever. It's just time. That's fantastic.
Starting point is 01:20:20 Because yeah, like it's so easy to just be like, ah, it's gonna cost you 25% or 50% if you sell it back. And so you're going to have to grind a little bit more. And that, you know, and just like right now, I've done a bunch of missions on replay because I felt like it, but also because there's, you know, hidden collectibles and shit like that. And I went and I bought every generator and every fire control system and every booster because those things are things that you're gonna tweak
Starting point is 01:20:50 all over the place when you're moving weapons around. Right? But yeah, no, it's, it's, hey, I don't know what to say. It's an incredibly super cool, well-controlling action game with robot and every time you play with the game in the robot, you go, ooh, cool robot, yay. And you feel like you're playing with your toy. And then you go back to the garage and you spend like an entire evening
Starting point is 01:21:16 just painting your toy like it's a gunplaw. And then you ask your baby, do you think that's cool and baby go go go go go go go because baby don't know nothing? And I'm like, thanks baby, do you think that's cool? And baby go go go go go, because baby don't know nothing. And I'm like, thanks baby, I appreciate the input. That's 100% of the appeal of robots right there. That's it. Watch them move, paint them up, and then they do cool thing.
Starting point is 01:21:37 Yep. Sick. And I'm now looking over at people chatting in the chat. Now that people are starting to beat the game, and apparently new game plus has new story and new missions and new game plus plus has more story and new missions and parts. Okay.
Starting point is 01:21:55 Wow. Last but not least, I wanna say that, so you go fight dudes in the arena. You go fight, you know, there's like 35 or whatever it is, like custom robots that are gonna be versus matches built by the game. And you download their data once you beat them. And then you go, and if you want,
Starting point is 01:22:15 you can recreate them by just going to load their data. You can be like, I would like to play as this guy. Exactly. And all of them have right exclamation points because all of them used gear that I have not unlocked yet There's a guy with a fucking energy whip I'm like when do I get the fucking energy whip and the game says later. I'm like, but I want it I want the fucking energy whip but once you see it like the question marks are unlocked
Starting point is 01:22:41 energy went. But once you see it, like the question marks are unlocked. No. No, okay. No, it's just the, the, the shit in the, in the, the shit, in the, the shop will unlock when it unlocks. But like, but like they constantly show you robots that have shit that you don't have. And make you go, oh.
Starting point is 01:23:03 But so like every, but the system is like the one where you get all that you can see. You will get all of it. So like the gigantic robots that are just like, you know, 10 times the size of your Mac. Yeah. You know, that's a set piece possible. But every robot that is the same size as your robot, if they have something, you will get it eventually. And they constantly show like little cool, little cool things. And I'm just like, I want that, but I can't have it yet, but I want it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:23:39 I think that game is a good game, is what I'm saying. I don't know about pocket dimension,, but like it's fucking great. It's fucking great. Yeah. Good game. Like as soon as you just control it, you're like, it's all the controls. Like controls are so important,
Starting point is 01:24:00 particularly in action game. But like the robot does what I want it to do in the way that I want it to do it and it looks the way I want it to look while it's doing it. Yeah, so... Of course I'm gonna take a look at that this week at some point. What? Shut the fuck up! You're crazy! And, um, and we'll figure out when. So, uh, yeah, I'll pop a schedule up and And we'll figure out when so
Starting point is 01:24:27 Yeah, I'll pop a schedule up there and we'll see I'm just gonna Just gonna feel my way through just gonna play what I can play try shit do whatever we can do I did say when I saw that first trailer for it. I'm like damn the fuck are we doing? The fuck are we doing? Not playing armored core. We got to do it. So yeah. Um, but so yeah, anything else a schedule wise? Got these bathrooms. So let's just uh, uh, not that I can think of right now. Okay. So you go ahead and use that bathroom. Okay. Um, but yes,, we're gonna continue FF 16 this week. We're gonna, you know, and then I'm gonna also, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:25:10 I'll take a look and I'll see what, but I'm gonna try to fit what I can and. The robot goes fast. Oh, actually, there is more for me to talk about. We'll talk about it when you get your, go up to your weiner. All right, baby. Go for shame. Hello. I was saying I also played a bunch of blasphemous too a game that I liked the prequel so much that I 100% of the it on camera on stream which
Starting point is 01:25:47 I don't usually do with games and was so excited for blasphemous to and then once it was like it's like it decided to come out the same day as armored core six and I'm like I'm sorry blasphemous to I'm sorry but you you are you have now been moved to Sunday with baby time Yeah, it's that's that's where you get to live um That game is incredible That blasphemous two is fucking fantastic blasphemous one was fucking sick. Yeah, so blasphemous two more blasphemous This one was fucking sick. Yeah, so blast this too. More blast from us.
Starting point is 01:26:27 It feels better, it looks a little better. You're up against the miracle. Once again, all that weird Spanish Catholic shit everywhere. It's a Metroidvania, guess what? You do Metroid shit, there's a grid. You get upgrades. Yada yada. The big difference. So in the original
Starting point is 01:26:47 game was that you got the Mayacolpa, which was the sword that you saw. Blasphemous man, penitent one using and all the promotional and all the footage. This game starts and goes no more Mayacolpa because of your actions and in Blasphemous 1's DLC, blah blah blah, the mea culpa is gone. No more regular sword. And so the first thing that happens when you start the game is you pick your weapon and you pick between a gigantic sensor, which is a giant mace with a giant flail. You get to choose between a like a rapier and a dagger, or you get to choose between like a curved like short sword. And they all function differently, they all have different move sets.
Starting point is 01:27:31 They all have very, very different like upgrade trees, which is also a new thing. So they get like a wide variety of moves, and they all feel really good. But more importantly, all three of them have different metro, what's going on? Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. Yeah, all three of them have different traversal abilities
Starting point is 01:27:52 for the environment. So the, I can't remember their names, because they're all in Spanish. The gigantic flail is able to hit bells, and the bells will create shockwaves that either create platforms or evaporate doors. The rape here in Dagger, let you smash shields and then teleport around, and the curved sword
Starting point is 01:28:16 lets you do a drop down attack, which destroys wood that will cause you to not be able to go places. What this means is that important question. In one, did you, I guess towards the end of the game, did you only have sort abilities or did you ever? Yeah, no, you only got the sword. Oh, okay, okay, okay. So in this, you get all three
Starting point is 01:28:42 and they each have their different traversal ability. So I picked the sensor first. And as a result, the places you can go in the first part of the game are determined by your weapon choice because they have Metroidvania style traversal abilities built into them. And so I had to use that and there was a very specific path I could have gone that would have fit for the mace. And then I got the dagger and and rapier and then I got the curve sword and the year so your first your first set of abilities is getting all of the weapons.
Starting point is 01:29:17 And then you get a double jump and then you get a dash and then you know and so on and so forth. But like last month's had really good, like, actual fighting. Uh-huh. And this having the three weapons really makes the fighting a lot more interesting, because they all have different ranges. They all feel really great. They all have a bunch of moves that you unlock. And yeah, no, it's an excellent, weird, Catholic, Metroidvania with a fucking incredible
Starting point is 01:29:44 soundtrack and incredible visual motif. Does each have weird setting? Does each weapon have a comparable tree to a Vonlox to the original sword? Well, yeah, because the first sword really didn't have a tree of Unlocks at all. It had a couple new moves you would get. Whereas these have full based skill trees with like so it is like... So there's triple the weapons,
Starting point is 01:30:10 but each weapon is like triple the depth of the original Mayacolpa. Nice. So it's like 10 times as much combat variety. It's just great, it's just great. The story is still totally inscrutable. Um, I'm not Spanish or Catholics. Religious nonsense. It is just going right over my fucking head. The whole thing. I, I am not privy to a single cultural touchstone that this game is drawing from sins and guilt and blood and
Starting point is 01:30:50 you know righteousness yeah deyata um it's fine it's yeah it's i don't get it but it's cool and i like the way people say the miracle the miracle's bad news Like the way people say the miracle. The miracle's bad news. The miracle. We gotta stop, we gotta stop the birth of Jesus in this game, I think. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 01:31:13 I'm not sure. I mean, I also remember that sprite art was fucking glorious, too. It is, it's still glorious. I was playing it and Paige didn't see me play a Blasphemous one But she's been seeing me play Blasphemous too and she'll like look up and like every single enemy's death animation is just vicious And it'll have that moment of the wife next you go on looking up and go oh god. Oh Oh no
Starting point is 01:31:41 Nice like it's it's great. It's great game. It's great game It's a game. I would have dedicated many stream hours to were not to release in the absolute fucking game fucklips. Yeah, like I got I got god damn Baldur's Gate and and and fucking starfield and Armour core this week see you stars and see you stars and I'm looking at that and I'm just like that's just not gonna change for I haven't even locked it bomb rush cyber fun I should I probably should lies pee is in three weeks. I was excited for Lies of pee.
Starting point is 01:32:28 Now the only lie of pee is the lie that I get to play it. God of. Decent. Decent. Decent. I'm happy with that. I just thought of that just now. Not bad.
Starting point is 01:32:43 I think that was pretty good. Not bad. What am I, how am I gonna learn to unlock my P organs? Probably the funniest thing I've seen in a while is that the unlock tree in that game is called your P organs. Yeah. I mean, I remember the last time we saw the more footage,
Starting point is 01:33:00 there was a discussion about how it was like, oh, no, there was a demo, right? Yeah, there was a demo. It was almost like two and a half hours long. Right's long right right remember you're saying it's action not badly out hmm so I would actually say it's quite good I mean yeah that's just it's it's it's it's cut that's lower priority it does does no other no other way to split. I believe that if I say, I believe that soul style games keep their visual value for eyeballs. That's what I think. Oh, also the Cyberpunk DLC, which is actually, we've finished Cyberpunk.
Starting point is 01:33:42 Did you see that shit? Yeah, it's on the docket actually. Um, it's funny It's like hilarious. I legit immediately like the trailer for Phantom Liberty and the new stuff in it I'm like, okay, this looks like I'm going to enjoy my time. I'm looking at everything going on in it And I'm like, yep, it it it looks pretty fucking good I'm definitely gonna check that out and I go boy. I'm glad I just didn't bother with it until they said they were finished. Yeah, it seems to be no downside to just getting the complete slick cleaned up version of that with vehicle combat and better melee and a million other things. Police that aren't teleporting robots. Yep. Police that aren't teleporting robots. Yep
Starting point is 01:34:32 Looks an edge runners reference edge runners references. Oh shit. You have the icon. It's right there. I know who that is Yeah, hey, can you give me 15 seconds to bring into the fridge to get something to drink beer beer All right, so see in the game now. They do Yeah, yeah, no, that's um I'm not sure if you're going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going Um, I think I think the list of things that were that like Phantom Liberty stuff is like, oh, that's nice And then they list the things coming as like the patch to the game and you're like that seems way larger than the thing You're trying to get me to buy and also what like completely redone the entire melee system That seems like a really big thing to have in a patch. It's also interesting because this is another tabletop based game. So you have a direct comparison to the way that Baldur's gate plays.
Starting point is 01:35:38 But in this case, it's like, well, it's still going to be an action game, but the setting is going to be as in depth as a tabletop setting should be here, you know, but gameplay wise, there will not be anything approaching that level of openness, I'm sure. But if, you know, what they advertise is like, oh, in terms of just like tech hacking, being a, what was the fucking tomb was it? Call it whatever the slurs were. And then the,
Starting point is 01:36:14 I don't know about shum man, I don't know about it. Okay, well in any case, I do wonder if like, okay, so here's your little icons, here's your little references to edge runners and stuff, but somewhere in the background, there's legitimately discussions being had about edge runners content itself, you know?
Starting point is 01:36:39 Feels like it's money on the table to grab. I would not be surprised if we hear about something much more directly related at some point in the future. They could keep it separate, but considering how popular it was, it feels like it could be a smart move. Anyway, I don't know why my brain just completely failed. I can't remember a single thing you just said, despite listening to you. Um, there's-
Starting point is 01:37:12 More caffeine it is! There's references in the form of a quest and missions and such from the show. Um, yeah, I guess the question would, well, anyway, I mean, you can, uh, there's literally always a, here, watch edge runners. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you definitely should. It's very, it's pretty fucking good. But no, um, yeah, you can, you can, um, I could always see there being a, like, let's legitimately let you play as something or do something like directly in that storyline as opposed to the other bits.
Starting point is 01:37:58 But yeah, I don't know what the current references are to be honest. I'm not too aware of it, but that's it's cool. It's very, very cool. And it single-handedly, I mean, the setting itself sounded always awesome, but EdgeRunners made me really interested, you know, so. Anyways, yeah, so for me, like I said, this week, we're gonna continue F of 16 going to take a look at AC.
Starting point is 01:38:29 And I'll figure out the rest of the schedule. I'm not too sure yet. There's also some, yeah, there's some... Might have a quick look at a game that is... I don't think I can announce it, but we'll see. But anyway, Woolly vs. On Twitch, Woolly vs. On YouTube, check it out. Gonna have some fun stuff coming your way. And I'll pick back up as well with some of the games we've started, you know, like I've everything that's kind of just like in a non-committal quick look phase, we'll pop up whenever randomly. So don't overthink it if you see a thumbnail with a number on it or
Starting point is 01:39:20 not a number on it or any of that shit. The answer is, I don't know, man, I'm just playing the video games and I'll see how this goes. I'm committed to the LPs we're going through, but I also might feel like playing a bit more of this this that or whatever. So just extend it into a two week long rotation. I mean, there's that. There's that.
Starting point is 01:39:45 I, uh, yeah, you know, it'd be, again, there's just, there's, there's an amount of time that me and Reggie get to get to have together in a given, a given week. And, um, when we do long, when we do some long streams, like recently we've done a couple long streams go in extra, and we did some extra on Friday as well. And like, just don't let Reggie leave. There you go, chain them down. Yeah dude. Don't come just like he's about to leave and then just be like no.
Starting point is 01:40:17 You're gonna do a bunch of starfields? Yes. Cap. Yes I Cap. Yes, I am. All right. Let's get a way. Check out a sponsored stream of Starfield later this week. Hey, there you go. They actually just sent me the code, but I mean, it's the code for the early access. Like, yeah, okay. That counts. That counts. Okay. Oh, like yeah, okay, that counts. That counts. Okay, let's take a Google Ripper from our sponsors, and then we'll get into the news.
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Starting point is 01:51:19 Thank you, Shopify. Thanks, Shopify. Okay, what is going on this week? Let's get right into it. So you touched on it a little earlier, but yeah, they showed off some Cyberpunk Phantom Liberty new ways to play. The trailer dropped on the O and L. Keeley event, where a couple other things were shown off. dropped on the um oh and L a keely event where a couple other things were shown off
Starting point is 01:51:48 nothing yeah I have I have something to talk about about showing things off at the Jeff Keely Gamescom event you know what my favorite part was got shown off the fact that they don't have any security on that fucking stage for some reason what the fuck is going on? What are they doing? So last time you had the intruder, the FromSoft intruder, who again it turns out he was some kind of like viral fucking troll that- Viral weirdo.
Starting point is 01:52:24 It was known for being a troll and has other videos of him doing stuff online or whatever So it's like, okay, that was coordinated and planned and yetiata But what like so it's just like with the one time I remember the game awards I was like when I was in the audience there. I was like, oh, yeah That's I'm just in the auditorium and the stages right there in theory invasive thoughts can tell you to just get up and walk up on that stage, you know, um But you one always has to assume that well somewhere off in the shadows a bunch of large ready to tackle guards Would be right there within seconds,
Starting point is 01:53:05 just in case you're crazy, you're dangerous, you know? Maybe even a fucking sniper in the rafters or someone to drop a sandbag on you from above. But what the fuck? Apparently nothing. Apparently anyone can just walk upon stage at any time and actually do whatever they want. Like it's, it's weird.
Starting point is 01:53:26 If I was at that event and I was like, I'm gonna go fight Todd Howard. There's, I would have been able to run up and fight Todd Howard. I would have lost. You would have clearly kicked my ass, but I could have run the attempt. That's stupid. Some people can't help but give into the dork urge.
Starting point is 01:53:47 Oh. Oh. They can't control it. You have to balance the actions. Otherwise, it gets the best of you. So what the fuck happened this time? Something weird, I would just walked on and just the middle of Jeff talk
Starting point is 01:54:04 and I was like, G was GTA 6 and then like a bunch of security just like kind of walked up and like stood there. They didn't like man like I expect it. I expect when somebody goes to an area where they are not supposed to be and security exists for them to be physically ejected. I grew up watching Jerry Springer. You remember Steve? You remember Bald C? Steve Wilcoast? Yes. Yeah, he would fucking solve problems.
Starting point is 01:54:34 Yeah, it's that big bald man solving problems at the game's comm. I mean on the one hand, you would think they'd learned from last time on the other hand, fucking Chris Rock can get slapped at the Oscars. So who's gonna want to stop Will Smith from walking up there? Yeah, well, and you would you would think you would think that that again, there's people in prime tackle state ready to go just in case. But now fool me once shame on me fool me twice. You shame on you can't you can't fool me again. Right.
Starting point is 01:55:18 Years later, it's still one of the funniest fuck ups I've ever heard my life. So now, you know, now the third, the third troll will be our lucky troll, really, if this happens again, because now it's like a pat, now we've established a combo. Yeah, so right now, like now we've established that you can just walk up there, which I mean, copycats is the thing.
Starting point is 01:55:42 So like, if I was going to present something on that floor, I would want to see a bunch of burly-ass dudes standing at that area right before the stage. Yeah. Because like, well, and it's- Someone's going to try it next time. It's not just that, but also Keely events often have like, you know, hey, look, there goes Kano Reeves or...
Starting point is 01:56:05 Yeah. Anyone else that's, you know, a-a-a-guesting in-in-in-one of these games. Who was the other celebrity that appeared the other day? Um, that came out, uh, Nick Cage, right? Yeah. So you like, yeah. There's a bunch of fucking like...
Starting point is 01:56:22 Like, there's no- People with personal security going on. There's nothing stopping anyone from seeing Kiana Reeves up on the stage and going, I bet I can rush the stage and try and steal one of his shoes. Yeah. Other than Kiana Reeves apparently. Again, the dork urge, you know, the the the intrusive thought.
Starting point is 01:56:49 And then now with the pattern of two, someone who's not at all the first two people might just be like, well, yeah, now we just we just have to keep it going at this point. Right, there might just be like, like, now the now the funny thing. Now the shame is if I don't do it. Yeah. Now the funny thing, now the shame is if I don't do it. Yeah. So. Now, this is the part where I'm just gonna indulge in my own brain for a moment.
Starting point is 01:57:12 And will it's gonna roll his eyes like he always does. You know what they should do. Have at it then. Bit. They should just let Jeff bracket hold a pistol. Okay. The whole time That's the entire thought okay, they should just let him hold a pistol just holding it for the entire show
Starting point is 01:57:40 Coming up next world premiere. Yep, just just holding it I Follow and will and we'll just see. I follow what happens. I'm picking up what you're putting down. Nothing else to it. Just holding on to it. Just had this image of like Jeff shooting into the crowd, going, starfield is the game of the... I'll protect you, Mr. Ko game of the I'll protect you mr. Kochima I'll protect you
Starting point is 01:58:12 Because you was like I am okay. Yes, I'm okay. Don't worry about me All right well Well look the problem the problem is that Um, alright. Well Well, look the problem the problem is that um, you know, you can You can use guns to make people feel how they want about starfield but But We're got that I said that and was to end with now confused about like we're using guns to make people feel a certain way about starving Well, yes, okay. Yes, we're gotten already that I it's okay
Starting point is 01:58:55 Yeah, no, yeah, you can make people feel a lot of ways about a lot of things with guns. You can you can yeah, right? No, no, no hold on follow along follow along. I'm going somewhere with this including Right no no no hold on follow along follow along. I'm going somewhere with this including including if if you Get yourself an early copy of the game and Decide to start leaking footage of it right so man
Starting point is 01:59:22 So most of the time When someone leaks some footage of a game, it's like, ah, shit, like, you know, someone, oh, my uncle, works for Microsoft, I forgot to build somewhere, or whatever's going on. And then someone starts uploading their footage of their game that they got early. Well, in this case, as you do.
Starting point is 01:59:44 Yeah, in this case, Starfield footage as you do. Yeah, in this case, Starfield footage start leaking online, and it was like, Oh, shit. Shocker. Some account has uploaded 45 minutes of gameplay, which everyone was like, what the fuck, how did this happen?
Starting point is 01:59:58 And then you look at it for a little bit, and you're like, yeah, that's definitely, that's definitely the real copy. Wow, Okay. Immediately followed by, oh, Jesus, this person does not play video games at all. Like, which means they stole it. They have no idea what's going on. So following up with that footage, then immediately is the person who uploaded
Starting point is 02:00:26 has starts then putting up copies for sale of Starfield. And I miss this part. Are you serious? Yes, and you can then go click through and they have photos of physical copies, many of them, which they then put up on the Japanese eBay site. I forgot its name. But like, you could, um, Mercari, you could go over to Mercari and start ordering multiple versions, regular edition, constellation editions, the ones that come with the watch. Yeah, yeah, yeah, all kinds of different versions. Everyone's like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 02:01:10 Right. And yeah, eventually they kind of, you know, after taking down some of the footage that the leaker uploaded and then seeing this shop, the leaker then uploads footage of himself reviewing the game. And he's like, yeah, world's first review gameplay of Starfield, no offense, Todd Howard. And so the reviewer is like hey, yo Todd no offense man That's a that's a good game, you know, and then you know
Starting point is 02:01:50 There was saying I was playing like a beginner because I'm not a game expert or nothing But I was just trying something out, you know, but that's a good game y'all. I don't want y'all to miss it Dude is just going in and's like, what is happening? What are you doing, man? And then, yeah, so then he got arrested. And he got arrested. He got arrested. And then they found, and then they found,
Starting point is 02:02:15 like, tons of copies and a gun. And they're like, oh, he'd like literally, like Jack to truck or something. And just literally stole it. Physically stole a bunch of, yeah, he'd like literally like jack to truck or something and just literally stole it physically stole a bunch of Yeah, like this is not a early code or some shame video game piracy. We're talking about old school high seas piracy Yeah, with a gun and a cutlass So if I'm not mistaken Yeah, he they found 67 copies of the game, which unfortunately
Starting point is 02:02:51 was not 76 copies of the game, but, uh, yeah, no, do just straight up did that and then posted the leak and then posted the sales and then posted his review and then especially to you know, look all I can say is Even the thief of the of the game here was not immune to the comments, right? Even the even the thief here docks himself in order to say hey man I know you all sort of saying I was playing bad, but no, I was just trying something. God, damn it. It's like it's impossible to kick away.
Starting point is 02:03:33 All right. Just so you know, he showed his face on camera, put out his fucking, I just put out his government through that all up there Just because people were calling about on his gameplay and he was like, no, man. I gotta say something You know, oh my god could not resist Good God lord, so let that be a lesson to all of you Fuck what the shit dude what a wild story Anyway, yeah, so whatever is we'll see what happens with that
Starting point is 02:04:15 He posted bail and they're they're figuring out the rest of it, but Jesus Christ That guy's going to jail. That's yeah, that guy's gone jail That's well I'm just it it's like, the question I got is just like, was it from a truck that was like on the way to a store or was it literally? I bet it was from a factory.
Starting point is 02:04:31 I bet it was from the disc factory. Yeah. That's where a, like, it's still hijacking a truck and that's like, that's like, you know, robbery, but like stealing from your warehouse, that's like larceny. You know, oh, you worked in a warehouse, warehouse yeah there you go okay okay okay Todd no offense man that's a good game shit all right so there you go guns can influence how one feels about Starfield, right? Um, God.
Starting point is 02:05:05 Yeah. Don't put your fucking... You know, I follow a guy on TikTok that's like a lawyer that just like tells you not to do stupid shit. Sure. Like, don't film yourself, right? Right. It incrimes.
Starting point is 02:05:20 Like those two dudes that are like, it shut the fuck up Tuesday or whatever. Yeah, those guys are great. Yeah, like that's that just it's like the story was it had all the angles of the classic leak, but it was missing the guy's reflection in the TV, you know, going, oh man, you can totally see me. We were missing the self-docs. So You know the the the the leaker here was sure to upload Supplemental material known as exhibits B through C
Starting point is 02:05:56 Of literally just his face going. Yeah, it's our field is pretty good. Hey, it's me. I'm the one who did the crimes It was me anyway That's that's fine. So the the other things that were announced as well They showed off persona through reload the some more footage of the team dude that game looks so weird I'm like I think it looks incredible. I'm just, it looks incredible until you get into a fight. And then you're on the like the basic tardarus background. Because we're going back to the basics, right? And this is what the one thing, the one thing I want to know
Starting point is 02:06:44 about how they're handling this is why aren't they calling it Persona 1 reloaded? No. Oh man, yeah, let's just read these three, four, five, call them one, two, and three. Ha ha ha. Persona five, the prequel, Persona one. And the Persona five scramble is like often a different dimension because it was made by a different company. So, so, I wanna know, and I really hope that they actually make Tartarus have unique unique interesting levels
Starting point is 02:07:27 in aspects to. No, they're not. They're not going to do that. Because that is probably like the biggest best change over those games has been the dungeons got more interesting over time. And five having memento says an option to like get your Tardarus going on, but you still have the main dungeons as like major plot in like unique things. It was one of the biggest and best changes over time. They will not.
Starting point is 02:08:03 They will add more floors. Then make the floors more unique through randomization. Do something. Do something. Yeah, it's watching, because again, right now, punchbombs currently going backwards and working their way through three. And it is interesting just watching how like, now that she's used to, and she's known,
Starting point is 02:08:31 she knows like, okay, the quality of life is gonna get worse because we're going back in time and things are gonna get, you know, more annoying and like demon fusion is gonna get more annoying and all that stuff. So like that's all fine. But like, things being more tedious and having less to do in the social aspect
Starting point is 02:08:50 is not that bad overall, especially if you're like, oh, but the characters are still fine and you're getting to hang out with them and do stuff. And overall, the setting is still interesting. But the parts where you just got to hit those, those floors and each one is kind of just a random generated, but not random generated thing and there's nothing but random monsters and nothing unique going on to it is like the part that she's struggling with the most, you know, and I'm like, yeah, yeah, I hear that. I hear that. You know, um, that's just how it's going to be. That's how it be. And uh, how it's going to be, man. You know, even
Starting point is 02:09:34 if it like, okay, like something like, there's a lot of ways you could tackle that. Um, it, you know, and if you are super traditionalist, then you can just be like, no, keep it faithful, don't you ever. And it's like fine. I would say in terms of from the least change to the most change, at bare minimum, if you were like a traditionalist that wanted nothing to change with it, I would say then please record a fuck-ton more
Starting point is 02:10:01 unique conversations so that the characters can talk to each other a lot while you're doing this boring grind. At bare minimum, give us more conversations the levels, or add more to the... When you hit the bosses, you know, if you're hitting them and they're the same kind of bosses, like add more unique character based things to those moments in interactions, you know, just... Yeah, that's my biggest hope. But beyond that, I mean, fuck yeah dude, like looks looks fucking great And Yeah, so it is being pushed as like game pass Xbox series XS Xbox one and Windows PC
Starting point is 02:11:01 But it is coming out on everything simultaneously, right? PC, but it is coming out on everything simultaneously, right? I'll leave so I don't that was just anything. Okay. That was just the way they were marketing it in that trailer. Okay. Not switch Okay So then we saw Cyberpunk we saw persona Tekken 8 showed off a little bit more they confirmed a lot of those leaked characters So then we saw Cyberpunk, we saw Persona. Tekken 8 showed off a little bit more.
Starting point is 02:11:27 They confirmed a lot of those leaked characters. So Yoshi Mitsu, Steve Fox, Dragon Off, etc. Wait no, was it Dragon Off? No wait, I think I'm getting that wrong. The leak list was essentially shown off. And when they revealed that the characters, they also revealed a like fake battle hub. And it was really strange. Did you see that? So there it looks like six dropped and the battle hub dropped and then they kind of went fuck shit. Okay, hold on, let's get something
Starting point is 02:12:15 going real quick here. Or that conversation maybe started a year ago or so and they started trying to put together something similar and they made it, but it's you with your avatar looking like, you know, like you're dressed up and everything, walking around an arcade sitting at cabinets and there's a Harada sitting doing commentary and you're seeing NPCs and yeah, dietta, but it's single player and it's offline. And that is the weirdest shit ever because like the entire point of like why like the
Starting point is 02:12:56 battle hub is, you know, pretty basic, but overall ends up being fine because you're like, yeah, but it's fun that there's a bunch of other people here. And you can do all these different like, you know, wild and wacky online modes together. I just want to hang out with Kazooie and see his sneaker collection, man. And World Tour is a huge expensive commitment that clearly they're like, no, we're going to do our normal tech and narrative. We're not doing a World Tour. So let's take that's fine. Tech and does its own story mode, its own way. And the dress-up mode is all there. But yeah, this whole sort of thing just kind of reads while weird because you'd expect from the way it looks for it to be this online thing where other people are sitting at cabinets with you, especially
Starting point is 02:13:36 because prior to even battle hub existing, even in arcsist games, you would like have your little cute character sit down at a cabinet and fight against somebody in their matchmaking systems, you know. Yes, VirtuFighter 4 Quest Mode did have that type of setup where you could go and then play in a different arcades and fight the different people from the different strong players from those arcades, but it's been quite a few years since VirtuFrified or for quest mode. And I think a lot of people looking at that footage are going to assume right off the bat that this is going to be an online feature because you're, you know, it's why would something in tech and be an online feature? Well, they don't even have like good matches as an online
Starting point is 02:14:26 Of course, but I mean from the outside looking in You know if you're like oh yes read fighter six just added this casual fun thing to do with my friends like I'm gonna and like oh look like looks like tech is gonna have it too It seems like that would be the deal especially because you're doing Cost-human locks and dress up and all that stuff. And when you have the little shibi style, you know, avatar characters, it feels as if the whole point of those things is to show them off to each other. Oh, man, those things look like Xbox live avatars 100% in proportion. Absolutely. Yeah. So yeah, very, very, very strange with that.
Starting point is 02:15:05 They do say outright in the trailer, single player, but I'm talking about if anyone is coming from the outside like, it's like the battle hajuli. To tack in looking in, you think, oh yeah, you're getting your own battle hub, and it's not quite that. And there are like no freakus oids, we promise.
Starting point is 02:15:21 And like, but I like the freakus oids. And it does immediately make me wonder if they're like, yeah I like the freakus always and it does I like them immediately make me wonder if they're like Yeah, like there was a thought about making this online But then they just they couldn't figure it out in time. Yeah, oh man Harada did talk though at the roundtable when they had the to fight latency They had he talked back two or three roundtables ago about how they were working on AI and how he thinks AI is the future of stuff, right? And shut up, you know, like learning from the player and all that stuff. And that's when I was like, why are we going this way with it? So this is where that's going to show up.
Starting point is 02:15:58 I will create a new form of life rather than add rollback into your game. It just sucks because I'm repeating the point again, beating the dead horse with this, but the systems used to make the game learn your play style could be used to do so many better things. The analysis to create your ghost and samurai showdown and to create it in killer instincts and to create it in even in virtual fighter and the way they did that.
Starting point is 02:16:32 It could be used to give you goals to improve, to feel better about your gameplay from moment to moment and how to, you know, see mistakes and have this, but instead we're doing this with it. I have a really good idea for Harada. What if, okay, what if Harada, what if you used AI to help improve the, you know, the way people can play your game by training the AI to recognize what people are going to do in a match before the latency is thrown out. And then it can plan for the actions that it thinks the player will do. And then
Starting point is 02:17:20 if the player doesn't do those things, the AI takes over, can take over and go, go back. Yes. Just go back, AI. Yes. And have the positions set back to what the AI thought was going to happen. That's pretty good, actually. That is the future.
Starting point is 02:17:38 That is pretty good. I like that. I think that's pretty good. That's not bad. The other thing that's in the future is me pissing my pants if I don't get up right now. Can you excuse me? Go do it.
Starting point is 02:17:49 Go piss your pants. Did you fry some chicken? A little bit. I also took the time to take the dog out pee and then kiss the baby and then kiss the wife and then kiss the cat and then realize I had to shit and then did a quick shit. That's more than frying chicken.
Starting point is 02:18:14 Hmm. Yeah. Right. Well, so what you were mentioning about Tekken actually made me think of a couple different things I was gonna bring up. So one, the trailer also showed off Kuma, who is now basically the fries dog sitting there waiting for Hey Hachi. Excuse me. It takes a thousand summers. I will wait for you. Kumas now using advanced Kumas style, Hey Hachi, Mishima Arts, and is not, no one gave Kuma the memo that Hey Hachi, Mishima is dead. So he's waiting for his backster. I think Kuma becoming the new Hey Hachi is like the best way this could have possibly gone,
Starting point is 02:19:01 because Panda's right there. If you want the Kuma move set. I mean, I assumed, like I said, like for me, it's like put him drop his spirit in Mokujin. That's my preferred way to do it. Wow, that's, wow, that's even dumber. But Kuma becoming the true inheritor is also pretty good. And yes, and Panda can distinguish the moves set. Yeah, could be. So, and Kumma also has the headband and has, you know, become the full, the true son.
Starting point is 02:19:36 Even though Heyachi has no fewer than 18 children across the world. Kumma is the one true inheritor. He's the realest one. Also, there's something just kind of hilarious about law. Yelling. I hate rich people wearing a full gold three-piece suit as a DLC costume you could put him in. That's kind of amazing. But yeah, anyway, so as you were mentioning AI earlier, that reminds me. I wanted to mention earlier, but Black Mirror came back and did it. Yeah. And I've seen three episodes so far, not in order because of Netflix's stupid playlist system is fucked up and dumb. When you scroll backwards through the seasons, they go from bottom to top and then on the most recent season it inverts. So imagine if you were counting...
Starting point is 02:20:46 That's stupid as hell. It's so dumb. So you count it to one to ten from the bottom up, and then 11 to 20, and then immediately after 20, you go straight to 30, and then count down to 21. It's insane.
Starting point is 02:21:00 But whatever. Uh, the... I, uh, but always huge fan of of black mirror. And as you mentioned, like the AI stuff, it just brings that back to mind because it feels as if they definitely took to heart. There's a still as an interview they did some some time ago, they're like, we didn't mean for black mirror to cut so close to home during the quarantine when it was just like, oh, fuck everything.
Starting point is 02:21:26 Oh, man. All the horrors are reality. We didn't want that to be. What if the guy fucked a pig? Right. What if Zany reality? What if Mimum run on batteries exactly? That's the classic.
Starting point is 02:21:36 Right. So now you take that and then it feels like they've distinguished into like, I think like three different kinds. There's the celebrity guest wacky zany, ha ha, like episodes that are kind of like the social media one, you know, where the stakes are fairly light and everything's fairly goofy. And there's going to be a little bit of like mums running on batteries in there. And it's going to be the classic blackmare, but that's all, you know, and then there's going to be the sorry for traumatizing everybody. Let's just do a send up to another genre and, you know, do a twilight zone episode essentially entirely. And that's fine too, you know, that's all fun. But like the stuff
Starting point is 02:22:23 that made me love it and the stuff that made it like what are my favorite shows ever is Is the the horror the existential horror the shit that gets away too close and and it hits you know on on shit that is like just current or a little bit past it and the second episode lock Henry absolutely does that and and just without saying much, I would just like to say, go check that out. It's pretty good.
Starting point is 02:22:52 And I would like, there's a thing that it talks about that it gets into, which I've had conversations about offline that I would like to discuss here, but I can't get into it until you filter it out for anyone who has or has not seen it. But I'm like, what are they going to talk about? We've already done a bunch of robot AI shit. We've already done a bunch of, you know, tech horror shit and da da da da da da. What are the topics can we get into?
Starting point is 02:23:25 And like, they got into one that I was like, oh, that's a good one, because I've been thinking about exactly that. You know, so yeah, go check out. I'm sorry, did you say an offline conversation? No, no, no, okay. There's like the topics that happen in Black Mirror are pretty good ones that that touch on a bunch of future potential horror things like that.
Starting point is 02:23:50 There's always a conversation I have with Punch Mom after we watch each one about how... Oh, offline conversation, wife conversation. Yes, exactly. Those are the conversations that now happen offline. Yes, correct. And so, and like this one, and this one, like the second episode did a really good job, I think, just touching on a subject that I don't think anyone else has particularly touched on yet,
Starting point is 02:24:17 that has been in my brain for the last couple of years in terms of media and what's going on now. And I'm like, ooh, good, good, good fucking pull. So I have to say, like maybe, I think I missed the mark on that one. I was implying like, who do we even talk to offline anymore? It's wife. Yeah, that's what I say. Yeah, wife is who you talk to offline.
Starting point is 02:24:41 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Um, and sometimes, uh, I, sometimes maybe, sometimes I push something at Reggie and then that's that. Yeah. Um, yeah. Are conversations that you have with Reggie on camera, on or offline? What? If you're sitting there on the couch with Reggie and you're streaming and you talk to him, is that an online conversation or an offline conversation?
Starting point is 02:25:16 That's a... Black Mirror! What if Reggie ran on batteries. Yeah. Fuck. The answer is yes. Anyway, no, no, no. I want to bring that up.
Starting point is 02:25:35 That's good. I think, yeah, go check out Lock Henry. Also, relevant because we're talking about Tekken, right? I don't know if you caught the fucking wind, but I don't know if you know, but as of last night Zegief is the best character in the game, bro. Hey, man. I gotta say I really want to say snake eyes Snake eyes you are a hero to everyone and you are also a villain to everyone everyone and you are also a villain to everyone because I'm stuffable. This man, this man dominating the worst matchup in the entire game. So for those who don't know, the Capcom Pro Tour event started out and
Starting point is 02:26:16 the tournament was, yeah, this weekend. I even entered and did what I could, you know, had a little run of Ryan right into flux waves and that was that so but the the main US West tournament was Grand Finals fucking snake eyes as Zangi versus Renult as JP and the worst matchup so so to speak, in the game. It is, it's the, it's the worst one, right?
Starting point is 02:26:48 Like nothing feels that bad. And he fucking did it. And he won as Geef. And the way Snake Eyes plays as Geef has always, he's always, he's been winning in, in four and in five as Geef with insane odds because he's just that sick, but also like the way he plays is so like it's unorthodox from what the typical Geef experiences when you fight randomly online, for example, because in each of those matches he landed like maybe one SPD per like set. He just uses the threat of the SPD all the time.
Starting point is 02:27:28 That's it. And he's just walking and patiently blocking and pressuring you with buttons. And the implication is more than enough. And he's always been that way. And this time around, like he whiffed one or two, you know, so he actually did go, you saw him go for a mid more than, but for the most part, maybe one or so SPD's percent most rounds none,
Starting point is 02:27:51 you know, it's crazy. His weapon is fear and he used it to fucking win the tournament and it was unbelievable. So, um, everyone questioning everything they know, you know, with JP Noless, who's like currently considered the new top tier over Ken After Kakaru and stuff. So yeah, then Snake Eyes is just built different Proven that the skill issue for everybody else out there skill issue issue. Uh, nuts, man. When you see, when you see him take like 25 seconds to just block and step through every spike and just navigate the fucking obstacle course, like a MXC, you know, and then just work his way in. And then as soon as he gets within range the next time JP does came into anything he just does fucking jackhammer right into level two jackhammer bam calls him out each time it was it was fantastic.
Starting point is 02:28:58 I'm mad at snake eyes because we can't be snake eyes. We can't skill up issue. It's just it's the fear. He uses the level two anti walks in patiently and not a single running bear grab, not a single fucking borched, except for combos, of course, just just getting in your head. Incredible. Yeah, in the end, he was even just like he was like, I don't know if he's good or bad. Like he literally in the interview, Stakeye says, yeah, I can't tell yet. I don't know. I'm not sure if Zanky if is good or bad. He's bad. He's really bad. He's really bad because it took Snake Eyes to win with Zanky because in Snake Eyes is the greatest player that has ever lived.
Starting point is 02:29:45 And so if it takes the greatest player to ever live, it would be with, with, he needs buffs. More buffs, please. Like when they're like, what would you buff him with? What would you give him? His answer was, just make the chess laps always connect. That's it. I would say that would actually be, I would say that's like, that would be a massive, massive buff. And I would do that. I would say that would actually be I would say that's like that would be a massive massive buff and I would do that and I would um Larry it on both sides is the one that everyone talks about. I would say the hitbox on super one has to Yeah, yeah, you miss with make it make it literally just do its job. Yeah, that's that's the one. Like those three would would make. Like I don't know if it would make a lot better, but it would make them feel a lot better to play. It would do what it's
Starting point is 02:30:30 intended job is, which it currently doesn't do. This is true. The the world tour version of moves makes seems to be like they copied it over in an early version of the game and then they just branched both versions apart from each other. Yeah, World Tour seems like it's two years older than the game. It's crazy. Because besides, Probably because it's two years older than the rest of the game. Not only does the Lariat hit on both sides in World Tour, but you can do like EX-Blank-A-Ball into itself like three times in a row.
Starting point is 02:30:57 You know, like juggles are just way more loose and lenient. So anyway, yep. Geef Top tier, God tier confirmed, locked in. The results speak for themselves. Anyway, we got to see a little bit of the Sonic Superstars, um, multiplayer trailer. Nothing much to say here except I'm just flabbergasted this game didn't already exist. It just yeah that's that's that's every time you see something good with Sonic you're like why didn't this come out 15 years ago? It's just that's it I'm just like oh those split screen modes were always two player never four and the Mario four player co-op stuff that's been going on never got copied over to classic 2d sonic. You know there was multiplayer
Starting point is 02:31:52 modes in a couple of 3d games but like they just never did this one and it just seems like such an obvious thing so yeah that's it. Sonic seems like it's in a good place you know frontiers doing good for the 3d. This looking like a fun way for a four player and if you wanna do classic, you got the Sonic Media's for you and then you got the movies as well. Like overall, more current Sonic things are better than not. So, good time to be a fucking weird Christian Sonic fan.
Starting point is 02:32:22 Oh god, dammit. It's always a good time to be a weird Christian sonic family because the Lord is ever present in our lives Shout out to deviant art We got to also see We got to also see, at the same time this week there was the TennoCon 2023 that was, had a couple announcements from Digital Extremes. And a bunch of weird shit announced. So they showed off the next expansion, Whisper and the Walls.
Starting point is 02:33:07 They showed off Warframe 1999. Definitely the most interesting thing they showed, but far more so Warframe 1999. So what exactly is it? I don't know. I don't know. Trenresner is involved. It looks like like fucking dark sector
Starting point is 02:33:28 Not sure it's totally baffling not sure what is happening, but nine inch nails so sure But then they announced and showed off 30 minutes of soul frame pre-ludes the fantasy game that is a sister franchise to Warframe that is partially connected but we're not clear how just yet. And yeah, you're just looking at a full on fantasy ass setting with fantasy ass characters doing fantasy-ass things. Um, I would like to see Sword Combat, what, what fucking soul frame feels like, because Warframe has a lot of built up baggage that they kind of always have to work around. I would like to see what they can do with something that's like brand new.
Starting point is 02:34:32 So it's all frame not built on like, oh it is. I mean, I see that they're using like the walk animation and some parts of the interface. But it's still like a separate thing. they're using like the walking animation and some parts of the interface but But it's still like it's still a separate thing and and and and from what I can tell or maybe I'm wrong with like it's a It's a single player fantasy game, right? I think I'm not I'm not sure I'm not super sure what the fuck this game is. Okay. Because like it's fantasy, but I'm looking at it right now.
Starting point is 02:35:09 Oh, is it? The character has a fucking robot face. It's online. Okay, it's co-op. Okay. Multiplayer isn't it fair enough. Yeah. What's really strange is that it uses the same art style just in a different time period.
Starting point is 02:35:27 Like it uses the Warrican style like dress and like ornamentation on characters clothing, but just old instead of future. Yeah, and every theory interesting. And it's curious to because it's like this is at the same time as we got to see the, um, the other game that was like MMO into, uh, spin off game Crimson Desert showed off its single player game, which is the same people that made black desert
Starting point is 02:35:57 doing a single player game, which I feel like they're, they were more suited for anyway. Um, what's that? What that is? Yeah, it's the people that made Black Desert accept. Now it's just a single player thing, which kind of feels what they were going for anyway. That's so fucking funny. That's why I didn't...
Starting point is 02:36:15 I was watching Crimson Desert and I was like, this looks Korean as shit. It's been then sure enough it was. But like the fucking... Dots didn't connect that it's an offshoot of black desert. Yeah. So it looks so, a lot of people are going, it looks so fake. It's like, oh, it sure does, but it is pretty much what black desert is doing,
Starting point is 02:36:37 except now it's just you're not doing it in this MMO environment. You know, what I, the reason why people think it looks fake is that there's too much in the trailer, like they kind of don't believe that it's all going to be there as depicted. Well, in that case, then, yeah, you could be looking at a fucking pretty-dub, gussied-up vertical slice, you know, for sure. But either way, like, the games that they,, like when you look at Black Desert and the fact that that has like hit stop in it and juggles and stuff, it's like, oh, they kind of always really wanted to make that kind of game anyway, you know.
Starting point is 02:37:16 It's probably better suited. That trailer is a roller coaster for Crimson Desert because it looks like extremely, extremely grounded fantasy or like, like, low fantasy. And then like it cut, you're doing fishing and you're on a hot air balloon. And then it cuts to you in the sky in a techno, in a techno cube prison. And then, oh, glowing magic shit. Oh, tree monsters and robots. And you're like, okay, whoa, whoa, what? Yeah. I would not be surprised if a lot of like, I wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of stuff that nobody saw in black desert just got reused
Starting point is 02:38:03 here. When he was walking around the town, I'm like, I feel like that looks exactly like some of the towns I saw in Black Desert as well, or at least like same kind of like texture sort of set, you know. But yeah, and then one of the bosses is basically doing fucking near-autom automata like bullet hell dodging, you know Like I thought like this game was going to be um I thought it was gonna be like what was that fucking game that the the really low fantasy game There wasn't even fantasy Kingdom something it was like Swedish. Oh Fuck I strained it.
Starting point is 02:38:45 What the hell was it called? Regardless, so it looks really grounded and then by the time you get to the kingdom come, that's it, kingdom come deliverance. It's just like Europe in like 14, whatever. Sure. And then I'm like, okay, and then I'm like, oh, you's fighting a tree monster and red devil
Starting point is 02:39:05 and a clockwork cyborg dragon. Okay. Well, when you're watching it, you're watching it kind of borrow from like, hey, what's going on? Do you want to jump off your Elden Ring horse and do your mid-air double jumps? Do you want a Skyward sword, your way down through the sky?
Starting point is 02:39:25 Tears of the Kingdom Breath of the Wild Style. We got that covered. And at one point, they're like, you're fighting a re-devil in a giant, Sekiro fucking field. And you're like, do you want a frumsoft, to your samurai battle? Tsushima? You know, so yeah, they're just, they're grabbing whatever they can.
Starting point is 02:39:50 Anyway, beyond that, only other things, two stories. One, we got some more details about the PlayStation portal. And it's a fucking waste of money. $200. Wi-Fi details for you idiots. $200 Wi-Fi stream your PS5 games to the handheld. Plug in your Bluetooth headset. No, no Bluetooth supported. Only PlayStation link compatible headset.
Starting point is 02:40:28 How the fuck? No Bluetooth support. Local play, media playback, get the fuck out of here. Cannot do anything if you are not connected on Wi-Fi. The most reliable of transmissions streaming. Sony has announced new cloud features that they'll be focusing on and investing in. So cloud infrastructure surely, you will be able to connect your PlayStation portal to the cloud to do your cloud gaming. No cloud streaming technology, even though that's what currently is being pushed by Sony.
Starting point is 02:41:07 Battery life, how are we looking? Targeting the same battery life as DualSense controllers, which they claim seven hours or so, but in reality for me, it's been closer to three or four. So you know what I've discovered is a cool pro tip for your PlayStation controller. Because I like the PlayStation 5 controller. It's my favorite controller to actually use.
Starting point is 02:41:29 It is a good controller to use. It just breaks easily and has a shitty battery life. If you want to massively, and I mean massively, increase the battery life on the PS5 controller, what you want to do is you want to use it exclusively to play PC games and turn off vibration entirely. Yeah, okay. And you will triple the fucking battery life on it. Like, you'll get up to 12 hours easy.
Starting point is 02:41:57 That would probably explain it. Because the thing is with the new smart rumble stuff, it's like, oh, that's a fun, lifty thing. And the only thing I'm playing right now that uses it is FF16. But yeah, I do have it on. When I play it on, when I play PlayStation games, I absolutely keep all the DualSense shit on. But 99% of the games that I play are on PC.
Starting point is 02:42:19 And PC games don't have the fancy DualSense rumble. They have the old-style shit ass rumble. And so, fuck that. Well, nothing's been notable with it besides, like, um, um, returnal and, uh, demon souls. That was it. Yeah, souls is probably the best use of that. So fair enough then. But anyway, um, so I think the only thing about this is, like, by, it seems as if by not having any features whatsoever, that's how they manage to keep it at 200 bucks.
Starting point is 02:42:50 Well, that's stupid. But it's like, if you're trying to make something just to have a fake competitor to the Steam Deck, why not just give it a little bit more so that it can at least serve as a pseudo tablet thing that can connect to the cloud and can play games remotely. You know, even if you're like, like even if it's going to be a lag box for everything you play, if you're going to bother investing in one of these things, like you're not replacing a steam box, you're not replacing a steam box, you're not replacing a steam deck or a switch.
Starting point is 02:43:28 If you do, no, what, no. No, I will not, the only thing you are replacing when you buy this PlayStation portal is the wea- 100 dollars plus tax from your wallet. I mean, it sounds like you're replacing your Wii U because you like, you have to literally be running Wi-Fi in the same situation and there's like not a single other use case for it and it's going to die in a very short period of time.
Starting point is 02:44:00 So you might have to sit next plug to a wire a wall anyway. I just, I just I just I Don't get it. Who is this for this is for you and your bed is that it like Anyway, uh, use on this thing are gonna be savage They're gonna be like I'd in 10 feet away from my fucking PlayStation and it runs like shit It's just weird because you're like you're actually going through the trouble of like making the hardware Making the portable making the big screen and having all that shit And you're just like and we put nothing in it. So I There's so many of the chat points out the switch light is the same price
Starting point is 02:44:35 Really well fucking Well never mind then because like you the nothing really you wouldn't you would expect something coming out from Sony to always be Upwards of 300 like you know, so I'm like I'm like that's pretty inexpensive for them But that's because there's literally nothing in it. There's no use case for it. I don't get it. Who is this for? What what is this for Not just who what and also when When is this for is this for toilet and bad? I don't, I don't, I don't understand. It appears to just be for toilet and bed. I've seen people pulling out their steam decks on
Starting point is 02:45:16 plane. I've seen them pulling them out at tournaments in, you know, hotel and hospital, whatever, like it is a portable thing. I bare minimum assumed this was going to be shitty, cloud connected to your, to your account and play game from a distance, but it's not even that. Anyway, um, God bless Godspeed. And last, we had a couple days back, the Marvel VFX crews have voted to unionize. And as a whole VFX workers are voting to you, United over 80% of the in house VFX members have officially signaled their desire and that's pretty fucking sick considering. Hey, you don't have to worry about MCU fatigue anymore guys. Well, I was gonna say like this is not that same
Starting point is 02:46:24 team, but considering we were just, everyone just enjoyed Spider-verse and then immediately came out and it was like, yeah, that was fucking exhausting. And a million VFX artists burnt themselves out to shit. It's like, yeah, so good timing on this, but that obviously needs to be Sony's side,
Starting point is 02:46:44 but at least the die is cast and the ball is rolling. So that's pretty good, and 80% is a strong number as well. So yeah, we'll see where that goes as it's currently happening right now. Alright, let's take some letters. Hey, if you went with foot, shh, fuck. Yep. Nailed it. CastleSuperBeastMail at gmail.com.
Starting point is 02:47:10 That's CastleSuperBeastMail at gmail.com. I'm out to spell off my fucking face. That's okay. Hey, you know what? You know what happens when you yell at people that their letters are too long? Yeah, they send big fucking letters. Actually, they tighten that shit up.
Starting point is 02:47:27 Get the fuck out. They tightened your mouth. They tightened that shit up. We should have done that 50 years ago. It's kind of, we actually did, and it happened before, and they temporarily tightened up and then went back to loosening again. Oh, I see.
Starting point is 02:47:44 Oh, I see. Oh, I see. Like an Amel nitrate, we loosened back up, unfortunately. But right now, it appears to be tight. So, hey, podcast question. Pat say email too long, use less word. When you shower, what song sing? I sing so fresh, so clean. Buy outcast, love from Sask.
Starting point is 02:48:14 I don't sing anything in the shower. I, when I go into the shower, I totally sublimate and transport myself to the shower dimension in which nothing can hurt me. And everything is fine. So if I'm ever like just, you know that moment where you're just like, if I don't do something, I'm gonna freak the fuck out.
Starting point is 02:48:35 Just freak the fuck out. Everybody has their different thing. I get into the shower, and then I walk out of the shower, and I'm clean, and everything is good, and all my problems seem less I will often have a particular battle theme or credits theme that is stuck in my head I will often hum that in in the shower. I think that'll be my thing So for a while it was way to the world
Starting point is 02:49:00 You know it can be anything from revenge in back in the day like whatever the current fucking thing is I was I just went back and I was listening to moog theme one from Elden ring so moog theme one is currently burnt the fucking Oh, I just saw I just saw the strangest Strangest thing in our chat. I can't stand being in the shower with nothing on you need you need to be in there with nothing on I can actually wash your stinky body With nothing on right you can't wear clothes in the shower. That's not There you go. There's your dad pun for the week. Uh, wait what? Nothing on as in music.
Starting point is 02:49:50 Is that a phrase that people use? See, they were making a music... No, okay, so that wasn't a dad pun. That was actually just a pat hitting a wall moment. Never mind. Is that what people say? I do this with something on, and they mean music? Yeah, or the radio. or a playlist spotify.
Starting point is 02:50:06 Why would they say like the radio on? With something on, yeah. But what we're talking about the shower, wouldn't you think about clothes first? I, the context was, I was about to say that when I'm not humming a song, I turn on my Bluetooth waterproof speaker, and I play whatever I'm playing in my headphones. Yeah, Paige has a Bluetooth speaker.
Starting point is 02:50:30 She listens to music. I don't care for it. Yeah. I want to transport to the shower dimension. Or you can podcast. You can listen to a podcast while you're in the shower as well. You know, why would I want to listen to a podcast while I'm scrubbing my fucking asshole and balls?
Starting point is 02:50:44 So it can sound like you're in a room full of people I want the sensation of being in a room full of people while I'm scrubbing my tape. There you go Of course naturally Yeah No, it's It's just once once I saw that there was like some really good waterproof speaker tech out there Then it was like oh found time right secondary soundtracks anything in life. That's a a a a a a a a silent moment
Starting point is 02:51:17 You can fill with not silent moment So we don't have very many silent moments in our lives anymore. Good. No. It's fun. You need time to think and wrestle with your feelings, all the sounds with distraction, play the soundtrack. There can never be a gap. One, two, right into the next. You know, it's really great. One's great. One's great. One's great.
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Starting point is 02:52:02 One's great. One's great. One's great. One's great. One's great. One's great. One's great. One's great. One's great. One's great. One's great. One's great. One's great. One's great. One's great. One's great. One's great. One's great. One's great. One's great. One's great. and funny name Pat, do you ever do weird combinations of food? Back when I was in college, I used to put cheese powder on from Kraft Mack and cheese on microwave popcorn and it was pretty good. That's not weird. That's like uncommon, but like I would even call that strange. Yeah, they probably sell that to you
Starting point is 02:52:20 in some fancy popcorn places, actually. That's not that weird. No, that's a pretty solid thing. In fact, barbecue powered powder on popcorn is pretty good and stuff like that. Like popcorn can take on a lot of different flavors. So you're fine with that. Yeah, I've definitely had a couple of those in my life,
Starting point is 02:52:38 I'd say. I, the weirdest, I think I've mentioned before, the weirdest combination food I think I've ever done was back when I was a kid and I was getting chubby. Part of the reason why was because I had peanut butter, cheese on a sandwich. And I'm not proud of it. That doesn't sound good at all. I'm not proud of it. That doesn't sound good at all.
Starting point is 02:53:05 I'm not proud of it, but that was my- How cheese? Marble, you know. Just a slice of marble. That was a fucking, that was a little fatty kid moment. And I'm not, I kinda disavow it these days. I'm not proud, but I did do it. You should eat that on camera
Starting point is 02:53:27 The taste was Surprisingly fine mainly because the cheese has to be Not like strong. It has to be like a bland-ish kind of cheese to it, you know, but like it it did It did work, but I just That's a fat kid moment. No. So, that's my, that's, I think that's my weirdest combination. So I don't do weird food, because I don't like my food to touch other food.
Starting point is 02:53:59 I think food should not touch other food in 99% of situations. I think that's wrong. I think you should, I think you, I think when you look down at your plate and you, let's say like Turkey, you get turkey and you get mashed potatoes and you got like, it's like corn or peas or whatever, I think you should take a bite of each of them
Starting point is 02:54:19 and eat them and then swallow them before having the other. And I don't think they should touch. I think that's wrong. And how do you eat a shepherd's pie, Pat? See, that's different. Uh-huh. Because the shepherd's pie is a singular item.
Starting point is 02:54:33 Oh. So if I had shepherd's pie and a different item, then the shepherd's pie and other items shouldn't touch. But if the same ingredients were cooked and served separately on your plate, then they're not ingredients, they're items. Okay, but food items. But if I made you some corn and then some mashed potatoes
Starting point is 02:54:49 and some meat, and I put them on the plate separately from each other, you would have to take those separate items and they shouldn't touch. Same, same answer, good stuff. So I don't do weird food stuff. Perfect. But if I had to say something that even I admit that I do that is strange, it's strange is, I guess I am guilty of girl-tenor. Are you familiar with girl-tenor? You eat a small thing and then steal everything off of pages plate
Starting point is 02:55:27 no that is that is that is girl friends dinner mm-hmm that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is is that is no girl dinner is like like random ingredients as a meal. Oh, yeah, she does that. Girl dinner is like a handful of dry pasta and a piece of cheese. Some chocolate.
Starting point is 02:55:55 And then like, and then like some peach. Yeah. Like I don't like, I will gladly go into the pantry. Yeah. And I would way rather And I would way rather eat like a bag of baby carrots, an apple and like a chunk of cheese filling up. Any meal. See, and you know what though?
Starting point is 02:56:18 Like the girl dinner you're describing just filling up on random bullshit. That's also French dinner. Like Parisian, like France. Yeah, yeah, right in France They make little like Shakutari plates. We're just like here's some cheese. Here's a good charcootery plate Here's some grapes. Here's a fucking slice of apple some bullshit. I don't know what we got back there nuts You want some walnuts? All right walnuts some fucking some fucking apple, and then some cheese, eat it, shut up. The other day, it drove Paige fucking crazy
Starting point is 02:56:48 because she made herself a ham and cheese sandwich and it was pretty good. And then I was like, oh, that looks good. And then I went into the kitchen and I grabbed a handful of ham. That's how I judged it. I cut myself a block of cheese and took a piece of bread and then just ate that and she was looking at me
Starting point is 02:57:10 like I was a fucking psycho. I did not construct the sandwich. It wasn't deconstructed. It was never non-constructed. Yes, yes, gotcha so like I would say I would say my predilection to girl tenor is definitely a little strange I mean I've definitely been lazy and and taken a cold cut and wrapped it around the slice of cheese yeah that's good you know except it should touch so I
Starting point is 02:57:42 want to point out somebody in the chat, point out that, didn't you, didn't you in page have like the biggest fight ever about this? And yeah, one of the very first things that me and Paige ever did online was we fought over ham sandwich because I had a ham sandwich from the grocery store and it was ham cheese queson
Starting point is 02:57:59 and like a little piece of lettuce. That's just good. She didn't want anything but the ham, right? She only wanted the ham. And I'm like, you're not gonna deconstruct my fucking sandwich and just eat the ham. That's bullshit. Then I'm just gonna have a croissant
Starting point is 02:58:11 with a piece of cheese and lettuce. And we like, like, like, there was a struggle. There was a struggle over that ham. And now people are saying, but Pat, you will just eat the ingredients separately. Are you a psycho? No, because they were never part of a sandwich Once the sandwich is made in one food item, right?
Starting point is 02:58:33 Yeah, it should not be modified or deconstructed or let other foods touch it once the category has changed Once you've dropped the item in the folder of Sandwich you can no longer pull the item out of the sandwich folder Exactly it's now a sandwich anything you do to it will fuck it up and make it wrong Same perfectly same correct take it is it is saying Foot nice. I remember my sister and I sitting there at fucking a dinner and my brother would take all this food and jam it with big slop in the middle of his plate and we'd be like that's disgusting and then we would eat our separate foods together and we would be looking each time I go
Starting point is 02:59:13 sis you're a genius you're completely right this is the right way to eat this and she would say pat yes you're completely right and then she would eat her peas one at a time and And I thought that was strange. But, but I don't see that. That's stupid. Did we not sit on this very podcast and discuss the eating of cereal with milk separated from the bowl of cereal?
Starting point is 02:59:42 I think we did. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I don't do that, but you can. Because I recall you defending it. And I, I, I, I wrong with that. And I recall it also being the very subject of the horrors that the movie get out. We're trying to warn us about. Yeah. I remember this conversation. Yeah. No, there's nothing wrong with doing that. Okay. There we go. Because like they this conversation. Yeah, no, there's nothing wrong with doing that. Okay, there we go. Because like they're separate and you can,
Starting point is 03:00:08 and once you start to eat them separate, you have to keep them separate. But once you've combined them into the cereal, then it's the cereal. Normal behavior. Same. Serial and water is the absolute psycho, like get out of the house.
Starting point is 03:00:21 Shit, okay, okay, okay. So, so that, like get out of the house. Okay. Okay. Okay. So so that Like get out of the house. I unfortunately have experience with that. Shut up. No one actually does that. Except when your health message fam is trying to prepare something that's a better kind of milk. So we're using powdered milk, like some powdered almond milk or some derivative. And you have to mix the milk yourself, but sometimes the mix is not thorough.
Starting point is 03:00:58 So you end up with the milk powder chunking up on one side and basically cereal in your spoon. That sounds bad. With your water. I don't want to eat that. And it was nightmarish and this has been a thing. Okay, here's what I don't get. Because some people in the chat are saying that's not psycho, that's poverty shit.
Starting point is 03:01:16 But I'm just thinking about like, yeah, okay, you don't have money for milk. Because milk is actually like kind of expensive compared to other basic staples. actually like kind of expensive compared to other basic staples. Well, I would prefer to fucking dry cereal over, over cereal with water. That just seems bad. It sucked. It fucking sucked. Yeah. There's nothing wrong with dry cereal. Dry cereal is good every day. But it's not, it's not as satisfying going to school as getting milk with it.
Starting point is 03:01:45 You don't feel like you've had a proper breakfast. Dry cereal as a snack, sure. Dry cereal as your first meal of the day, fuck no. You know, I don't think I've ever talked about this in front of a large audience. Is it really that strange that your foods shouldn't touch a bunch of people in my family don't like their foods to touch There are sometimes I don't want it to touch but most of the time it's all the same in your fucking gut who cares
Starting point is 03:02:16 Especially if there is like a plate that's being prepared where the the flavors are supposed to Intermingle with each other all fucking're all fucking confusing and fucked up. And sometimes that's the point. If you go order from certain restaurants where they serve up a plate with a bunch of things on it, the intention is for you to grab a fork of a little bit of each thing and taste them together. They will actually do that. The mix is kind of sometimes the point. If the mix was the point, it would show up mixed.
Starting point is 03:02:44 Sometimes, it depends show up mixed. Some, it depends, it depends, right? But the fact that they're gonna touch sometimes is like that just kinda happens. Like, I, Oh, that's not true. That's not true. Okay, so again, If it's touching does not just happen,
Starting point is 03:03:02 you allow it to happen with like bad management of your plate. If I'm thinking of a plate I would eat back when I was a kid, there'd be rice and peas and with some meat, some fish or something, and then some green, right? Some salad or so. Yeah. And if I ended up with a spoon with some rice and then some fish and then gravy, that's a normal, that's a good, that's a good, that's a good fork. Right. That's a good fork, right? That's a good thing. If I ended up with some green salad and then I had some rice with it,
Starting point is 03:03:30 I don't want rice and my salad together. So no, I would try to separate that. That's not good. But the rice is super good when it comes to combining it with the meat. So that's fine. So it depends on what's on the plate. So I'll have Indian food.
Starting point is 03:03:47 I'll have a butter chicken. And butter chicken shows up with the chicken, which is very saucy, rice, non-bread, and like a salad. Yeah. So what you do is you eat the whole salad first. Then you eat all of the chicken. That's insane. Then you eat all of the chicken. That's insane. Then you eat all of the rice. That's insane. And then you take the bread and you wipe up the sauce. Oh, but why do you dip the
Starting point is 03:04:11 bread in the sauce? What's different about that? You should eat the bread by itself. The sauce isn't a food item. Oh, but you're mixing what the bread item, which is its own thing. Now that's inconsistent. What's up? You've mixed the bread with the sauce, but these are two separate items. Why are we mixing? The bread is basically acting like a fork to get the sauce. Oh, but why is bread different compared to the other items beforehand?
Starting point is 03:04:36 Because bread is for the sauce. But is it? Yeah, well, so actually, you know what's funny? Because H and I had an argument about this. Yeah, yesterday. Yesterday know what's funny because I had an argument Yesterday the fuck up where she where we had some Indian food and I'm like hey, can I have some non-bread and she's yeah, and then I took a piece of non bread and I just ate it And she was like what the fuck are you doing? I'm like I just had a piece of non-bread She's like the non-bread is for the sauce. I thought you were gonna have some sauce. I'm like, no, I just wanted the non-bread.
Starting point is 03:05:06 And it's like, no. I mean, if it's a good, I can't have anymore. And I'm like, why do you care if I dip it or not? If it's a good garlic's, Peshwari Nan, or cheese, then it's tasty on its own. But it's, it's regular, it's just plain. But it's fantastic when you add the bread in my mouth. Yeah, it's fantastic. If you take a piece of butter chicken with Nan and when you add the bread in my mouth. Yeah, it's fantastic
Starting point is 03:05:25 if you take a piece of butter chicken with none and then you put the fucking chicken in it with the sauce and you have it all together that tastes phenomenal. Don't understand what like what it further more I learned I didn't even know this tech but when I was working in QA um some of the do one of the dudes I was working with showed me the tech of like, he would actually put the rice in the sauce. He would empty it out. And then he would just have the meat and sauce up rice all together in the same container. And he went right into it.
Starting point is 03:05:55 I don't know if I should do that. I used to do that. You remember the Korean place next to where I used to live? Hmm. I would finish like a bulgogi and then I would take the whole fucking thing of rice and toss it into the And I yeah, and I never thought of that and I guess
Starting point is 03:06:09 And what's around the rules? You got explain some consistency there because the moment I learned it you could just dump the rice into the sauce like that I was like we're never going back. This is the way to do it 100% You get the meat inside the sauce and usually a lot of places, a lot of places will give you way too much sauce compared to the meat. I want way too much sauce, but you'll get not enough meat is also the problem. You'll get like five little blocks of chicken and then you'll get a giant container of butter chicken sauce. It's like, all right, well, we're
Starting point is 03:06:41 going to have that and you just fucking you dump the rest in there. I guess sauce does break the rules in that you can't, you can mix sauce with things, but you shouldn't mix other things. Uh oh. So we are approaching singularity. You know what? You know how? Is it a particle or a wave? You know how I know it? Like I'm saying something like nuts is when I like as I'm talking to you by a discord and DMs just start to happen. Yeah, there you go There you go. I was just sent a photo of From dad Asuna of a cafeteria tray Yeah, cafeteria trays are the best you don't let any of the food touch. They're all in their own little They're all in little places where they need to be well
Starting point is 03:07:24 I you can tell right now you've never been to the cookout because if you go to the cookout and someone fixes you a plate, the plate they fix you is going to be nice and stacked and there's no way you can avoid food touching each other if it's a good plate. A good, completely different. If someone is fixing you, if the plate is handed to me in such a state, that means it's a singular food item, and that item is cookout plate. You have been fixed a plate, you do not discriminate with what's on the plate, and you do not call out any cross contamination.
Starting point is 03:07:55 Listen, it's all good shit. No, no, no, no, listen. If the plate gets to you that way, that's fine. But you can't make the things on touch on the plate because then you're eating it wrong Because the way it was presented to you is the way that it's supposed to be eaten. I See so the state that the plate has been fixed is now the new solid state yes
Starting point is 03:08:22 And and as you've received it as such so so you cannot, now it is your job to not allow any further contamination. The way that the person wants me to eat the food is the way that is showed up on my plate. If the person who made the food wanted me to eat the whole plate in a big fucking mess, they would pile it on like a big fucking mess. Well, I'm sorry to report that some of the barbecue sauce on the ribs is gonna make it onto the chicken And some of that's gonna get onto the rice and some of that gravy is gonna be underneath Under the intention that's fine and the cornbread might be soft in some of the sauce to jam them into each other You might have some gravy touching the coin bread so many DMs right now
Starting point is 03:09:09 Oh my god, okay Anyways What oh man on the way out on the way out of the door here Let me just throw my cousin under the bus because she when we were young with Pretty much send shockwaves of vile and disgust Through all of us with her her patented combinations of
Starting point is 03:09:41 Eating slices of ketchup with apple of eating slices of ketchup with apple. That's what I'm saying. What? Slices of ketchup with what? You just said slices of ketchup with apple. Slices of ketchup with apple. And I know what you mean by saying that. As a separate serving,
Starting point is 03:10:05 oranges with black pepper. You know what, see, Wolley, okay, you know what, we can reach a common ground here, okay? So I am picking up that you think I'm crazy for saying food shouldn't touch, right? My mentality of food shouldn't touch is to avoid the nightmare you just described. Yes, well, there shouldn't be a plate with ketchup
Starting point is 03:10:35 or apples on it anyways to begin with. These are two items that should never, there should never be a combination of these two things, right? You learn sweet and savory, you learn about items that should never all there should never be a combination of these two things right to learn sweet and savory you learn about when you have some chocolate with your your pretzel or when you have some bacon on your your ice cream whatever you have bacon on like a date right yeah, yeah, yeah, um horseback yeah, that's devil's on devil's on horseback. Yeah, that's devil's on devil's on horseback. But yes, a tomato
Starting point is 03:11:08 salty-ass fucking sauce on your fruit can fuck right off. And that's what she did. That's what she did. And we never let it down. And y'all out here saying, I'm crazy for keeping my turkey and mashed potatoes separate. So yeah, that's real. Now, at the same time, puncher mom's got an issue with texture, so there are times when the combination of things isn't the intense.
Starting point is 03:11:32 For example, ice cream and a slice of apple pie, right? I think that's awful. Warm and cold together, delicious, amazing, fantastic. No notes, 10. To me, to me, my problem with that is warm and cold. Yeah, but that's what's interesting about it. That's what's interesting about it, right? Fry and ice cream is the same thing.
Starting point is 03:11:54 Warm and cold playing together. It tastes really good. It's an interesting flavor. I don't care for that. Going on in your mouth. It's all to be cold or all to be hot. Well, they should all be the same temperature. Temperature shouldn't mix either.
Starting point is 03:12:07 Either way, you know what? Minita, great question. Thumbs up. So many. I just, oh man. All right, last one in the same vein to Pat and Woolly. I refuse to elaborate our context or do context names. What trait of animals can you just not believe made it through natural selection?
Starting point is 03:12:37 Like what the fuck are sloths doing? That's the question. The quots going down to the bottom of the tree to shit, so they can die, is pretty bad. It's pretty bad. That's definitely way up there. I'm gonna take it right back to the duck bill platypus and just go like, you have the wrong mouth. That's not the right mouth.
Starting point is 03:13:00 Yeah, that is wrong. For what you are, you're supposed to have a different mouth and that's fucking insane. I think, I think co-wallas are maybe the most maladapted freaks on the planet. They can only eat one plant and they're not good at eating that one plant is really bad. So in the same vein as that,
Starting point is 03:13:27 I'm gonna say the fainting goats. No, well that's genetic. It is insane that natural selection somehow allowed that to survive. Because did it or was that people thinking fainting goats were cute? I don't know, but in bone, there are those creatures that love when you eat them and would love to serve up a piece of their meats to you And I'm reminded of that. It's like what predator would not just fucking lose their mind and wipe out an entire fainting goat population
Starting point is 03:13:58 Of you know when the goats get scared they fall over and just become ripe for eating It's crazy. Yeah, there you go. That's that's my, I have no idea how or why. Great. Good stuff, guys. Yeah, this is a prop of nothing, but like, you want to hear something cool? Have you seen what happens to pigs when they get let loose in the wild? Yeah, they become boars again. They turn back into boars. Correct.
Starting point is 03:14:31 And like I remember hearing about that mean like, oh you mean like the kids? Like no. There. So they start to physically change into boars. Yes. Pigs are absolutely just Pokemon. And it's so weird. Like the, it begins with are absolutely just Pokemon and
Starting point is 03:14:50 it's so weird like the it begins with the first thing of like oh the trend of micro pigs and mini pigs We're like a bunch of rich people buy a cute little pig and they think it's gonna be cute And it's like you idiot. That's a pig is a hog is a boar is the same animal. It's just small right now I get a small pig get a bulldog like I did I get a small pig, get a bulldog like I did. If the small mini pig, eventually 100% becomes a giant full-sized hog if you keep feeding it, which you're supposed to because they need to eat that much. And then yes, give them the wild environment and then the horns come out and then the hair grows out
Starting point is 03:15:16 and they turn back brown and it's literally just adapting to its environment. Um, crazy. Yeah, the, I wanna say there's a fresh water and salt water crocodile that is also kind of like that. Like within like age generation, it will just adapt back and forth depending on the water that it's in. You know, it just, it's in there.
Starting point is 03:15:39 Epigenetic memory unlocks instantly. That's crazy. Sick. Super sick. Hey, I got you know I'm gonna steer back to food for just one second because you mentioned like punch mom has like a texture thing You know what really bums me the fuck out is taco yaki? Why?
Starting point is 03:15:56 Because it tastes really good. It tastes really good. Taco yaki tastes good, but but like it feels like shit in my mouth Yes, yes. I, I get that, I get that. Um, too, cause squid and octopus, food in general, is just way too chewy. I completely feel it's just too rubbery. The texture is not great. And dockoyaki, dockoyaki specifically is also served up at least when you get it in Japan. Nothing short of 99 degrees.
Starting point is 03:16:31 Yeah, it's a little hot. Self-seated. We both, me and Punch Mom, burnt our mouths, like serious damage. So you both ended at the same time, so neither one could warn the other? It's insane. It's completely insane.
Starting point is 03:16:44 Like they don't tell you in advance, but you break that shit open and let the steam cloud come out because it is actually like you're risking at least like second degree burns in your mouth at some points when it's hot off the fucking grill into the box and they serve it up to you off the street or inside the mall, you know, it tastes so good, but you're actually about to fuck your mouth up for days, if not weeks. It's too chewy. It's too like... Ah.
Starting point is 03:17:10 No. Yeah, no, I'll see squid type things. I'll give it that. Just texture is amazing. Like I was in Japan and I'm like, I'll have some taco yaki from Japan. I was in Osaka for fuck's sake. Where the fuck else am I gonna get better taco yaki? And I'm like, wow, this tastes delicious.
Starting point is 03:17:29 I wanna spit it out of my fucking mouth. Yeah. Just yesterday, Reggie was telling me, like, he was eating Cambodian dried squid. He ever had that? I have not. It's like kind of like a snack that's just like dried squid. It's exactly what it sounds like.
Starting point is 03:17:44 It's kind of salted and smoked or whatever. And it is basically like chewing on an eraser. I'm not good with that. That's a shit. And like, it's got some flavor to it. It's got some flavor to it. But you're chewing for about 20 minutes before you can actually swallow anything. That's stupid.
Starting point is 03:18:06 When I was a kid, yeah, I'd compulsively eat pencils because it's great, but I don't think it's food. The few times I've had it, it's hurt my teeth. It legitimately felt like, and I also felt my jaw was tired of chewing. And like, I was getting like jaw exhaustion as well. It sucks for the taste. It's pretty good, too much work. Anyways, there you go.
Starting point is 03:18:37 Good stuff, good stuff, good question. All right. That'll do tune in this week week and I'll jump back on. Will is going to start playing Armored Corn Baldur's Gate this week. Check it out. Yeah. And some other stuff. Street fighter is in there somewhere. I don't know. Fuck. Yeah. Great emails this week on ironically. it worked. It worked. It worked. Yelling, yelling at the scared little audience has now, like a little audience, these people are freaks.
Starting point is 03:19:14 Yes, I know. But you right now listening to this, freak, verbal abuse has resulted in improved behavior. Therefore, the beatings will cease since morale has improved. uh... verbal abuse has resulted in improved behavior yeah therefore the since morale has improved you took the words out of my mouth you

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