Castle Super Beast - CSB 234: 19 Inches of Separation Anxiety

Episode Date: September 5, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 МУЗЫКАЛЬНАЯ ЗАСТАВКА Alright, good afternoon, willy, how are you doing on this fine labor day, which we are definitely taking off to commiserate with labor. Look, man, I was thinking about exactly that because, you know, every year, punch moms enjoying it and, and a lot of family and that I've been talking to of everyone's using the opportunity this weekend to do stuff that they otherwise can't do. Woo, three day weekend, traveling, etc. And it's like the trade-off for creating our own schedules is that we create our own
Starting point is 00:01:10 schedules. Dude, I have gone through like past four or five years of like me going to the store and the store is closed. Yeah. And I'm going like, what? Yeah. Why? Yeah. Why closed? No. And then, like, like, you know, there's that moment where you're just like, damn,
Starting point is 00:01:35 why can't I celebrate Labor Day? And it's like, well, you can. You just don't. You totally could. You just, you know, and it's like, and it's like, because on Saturday, you were planning a stream, but then you realized, oh, there's a monthly tournament going on. So you said, oh, hold up, let's switch it up. And then you're, you, the freedom to do that also means that, you know, you fucking, you get that as well. So we don't, we don't honor the high holidays because I have an absolutely remarkable privilege that I am not taking for granted at all, like genuinely. I have a new baby in the house, this is mentioned, but my workspace is a 60-second walk
Starting point is 00:02:19 from the baby. I just crossed the yard and I'm back at baby. Like my dad would do nine hours and then he'd get stuck on the mercy bridge for 90 minutes. And that was that. If there's like some kind of poop disaster, which there may have been at some point, I can be there to help with the poop. But what you have to, that could not help.
Starting point is 00:02:43 No, what you're supposed to do is be as gone for as long as possible, returning only home at night to get your slippers, read the newspaper, you know, tussle some hair, and then head straight off to bed after changing into your night time jacket, of course. And then you bring the Christmas and and birthday gifts around but otherwise dad does not exist that's that's what you're supposed to do right so this is kind of screwed up and I feel bad for my dad luckily for his kids my dad had crippling insomnia. Right, so like not so much when you were a little kid, but like, you remember when you were a little kid, you'd wake up like 5, 30 or 6 and you didn't get a shit?
Starting point is 00:03:35 My dad was up. Right. Like he was around before he had to go to work. And when I was older, I would be going to bed. And he would be waking up from his daily nap that was the only sleep he got. And he'd be like, you need to go to bed. I'm like, hey man, and then we'd chat for like five, 10 minutes. So yeah, luckily enough for my, for my family, dad would have crippling, disabling insomnia for his entire life. That works out.
Starting point is 00:04:05 So I actually got to see more of him as a result. Yeah, on my end for the period where he was around, there was pretty much an overlap of like, I'm going to bed like, like I'm going to bed around like 839 and he's getting in at like 10 anyway type of thing. So there was just very little overlap anyways. We just hung out with the rest of the fam
Starting point is 00:04:33 and babysitter for the most part. But yeah, no, it's, I mean, in any case, it's a, it all, oh man. Whatever, at some point that went from an occasion of glimpse to nothing, but it is what it is. You know, you're mentioning your disappearing father act. It reminds me of a video I was watching earlier this week
Starting point is 00:05:01 that was fascinating to me, which was, if you ever wanna find out cool shit, just watch people who deal with like hospice care or like nursing homes, because old people who are about to die will just tell you anything. And what she, this lady who works in hospice care discovered that old ladies like who are 90-ish now,
Starting point is 00:05:24 that the expression went out for cigarettes and never came back is not the same expression as went out for milk and never came back. They have completely different meanings. So I didn't know that. Interesting. I thought it was dad disappeared, right? So going out for cigarettes and never coming back,
Starting point is 00:05:47 that's from our era, that's when dad would just bail, right? The, like the boomers in the silent generation, what it meant to them is dad went out for milk and he's not coming back, didn't mean that he disappeared. It meant that someone disappeared him. It's mom. It's mom has no avenue for divorce and no solution to dad. So he's, he, he went to go live on a farm. He went to go get milk and he's just not going to come back. Huh. Okay. That feels like it's probably very localized to perhaps a particular
Starting point is 00:06:28 community that has a thing of theirs that takes care of their own problems in certain ways. That feels like a very specific regional distinction. Yeah. I kind of fell down a rabbit hole and finding out that prior to no fault, the force that the primary solution for women that wanted to get out of the marriage was to just kill their husband. Oh, I mean, hilarious. Or our creator religion. You can just do that and be like, yeah, it's the same thing except I don't have to hang out with that old bitch.
Starting point is 00:07:06 By the way, cutter head off. Um, it was wild, because in Grenada, I remember, uh, a bunch of the schools and places around were just like, oh, here's, um, Grenada Anglican High School or the Anglican Church and the Anglican Park down there. And there's a ton of Anglican stuff in Grenada. And I was like, right, Anglican, what exactly is that? I was like, oh, I guess it's just another one of those. I'm like, oh yeah, like Baptist, Protestant. No, you know, I didn't know. And I was like, no, it's actually closer to Catholic
Starting point is 00:07:39 than there is, I'm like, huh, okay. Well anyway, I'm not that, I'm Adventist, but whatever, sure, you know, and like it was only way later, there's like, oh no, like this is all set up as like the fucking divorced energy, the church of divorced energy. So high school, the gradient church of divorce energy, fucking park. You know, I we don't whenever we get into talking about religion, you always got to remember that like everybody, I'm a shitbag, dirtbag atheist, no one likes what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:08:10 It makes Matt. But more than that is that I was baptized Anglican and my mom wanted me to go to Anglican church. And I try to like, it's the fakest of all the Protestants. Yeah. It's the fakest of all the Protestants. It's the fakest one. Yeah. It's like historically documented as being a fake religion.
Starting point is 00:08:31 It's hilarious. Yeah. It's the funniest one. What you have to do, what you have to do is you have to just like transport your modern understanding of people into the past and give it context. So imagine everybody who was lining up and crying at the coronation of the next monarch. By modern standards, how ridiculous and silly the whole thing is.
Starting point is 00:08:57 But I know, I know. But imagine that energy, those people, the fans, the hype ones, you front line, right, with the big fingers pointing up, going, yay, king. And they all get together and make a rule set that you have to follow up the road way back when, right? Those level, that level of energy is the ones that are deciding how do we move forward with this shit. I remember being... I'm gonna, I need a time travel machine. When did Princess Diana die? When did...
Starting point is 00:09:31 Was it 1998 or was it earlier than that? It's 97. So 97... I would have been 11, right? So when I was 11 years old, I got into the biggest fight I've ever had with my mother in an airport Because she's Anglican doesn't go to church But believes all the shit and then she was bawling her eyes out about Princess Diana Right, but like it's the biggest tragedy and so we're in the airport in September of 97, and we were gonna go on a trip. We're actually gonna go Bahamas.
Starting point is 00:10:11 And she walks into a fucking, into the convenience store in the airport and picks up the national inquirer off the rack that has the car crash photos and buy it. And I was like, look, I was like, mom, oh my God. Opting in. Yeah, it's your fault. I said it was your fault, Princess Diana died,
Starting point is 00:10:40 which was about as in flammatory as I was. That's fucked up. That's a fucked up thing to say to mom But you get it right? Where's the lie? Where's the lie? Here's the problem little asshole shit bag pat was spitting yeah because where's the fucking lie? 100% you are at fault Because where's the fucking lie? 100% you are at fault.
Starting point is 00:11:04 That exact action right there, that transaction of, let me gawk. Let me gawk at the fucking flaming car wreck. Oh my God, that's you. Oh my God. Yeah. And like, once, I mean, you say that, just kind of shit to your mom,
Starting point is 00:11:21 you're having a fight. No, it's good, yeah, it's going, it's going. And the more right you are, the more damage, the more that's gonna create. Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah, I mean, it took me a while. It was way late.
Starting point is 00:11:36 And I want to say it was like maybe grade six or so before I kind of realized that most of the other kids had families where like even if they were kind of into following the But like royal whatever or if they're into like church, whatever it was like yeah, we kind of say where this but you don't really care Like yeah, we show up for like mass maybe or I don't know we do a once in a while religious thing or a what or like you Yeah, my brother and sister are I'm gonna use air quotes Catholic right right like that they go to mass on Christmas Eve And then do anything they want during the rest of the year I didn't understand the concept of like look the family knows this is bullshit
Starting point is 00:12:20 We were all just raised this way and like maybe grandma was devout, but we're just we're just hanging in there and having pleasant holidays That's all we're trying to do, you know, and Yeah, I'm sitting there going like I don't understand if the book says this why aren't you following it if this is the definition of how we got to This is really important and what you know because that's that's fucking that's Adventist energy, right? It's very much like no no no letter of the law. It says Saturday, so we say so we stick to Saturday. Everyone else is doing Sunday because they're making their own shit up, but I don't get it.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Why are we not doing the thing that it did, and then that was the beginning of the like, oh, right, you're actually, it's because we know, but it's just kind of nice to keep things pleasant. Let's just have some turkey, shut the fuck up. If we say grace before we have the turkey, it's fine. It'll make a couple people happy. Some people won't give a fuck. We'll just say the grace. It's an option select. It's fine. If we don't say the grace, some people will be upset. And others that don't give a
Starting point is 00:13:16 fuck won't give a fuck. So why not just go for the net positive. Okie dokie. Right. Fast forward to like every elected official has to believe in God because why would you if you say you don't then you upset the ones who believe but if you say you do then the ones who don't give a fuck Don't give a fuck anyway, so it's I think I have anybody in my whole family tree that is like like Like they all say they believe in whatever., cuz they're well they're fucking French Pat But I mean like the English side. Oh fine. Okay, cuz remember I got the two sides right the the the French side and the And the plantation owners got yeah, right. That's right. Yeah, yeah They they all say oh yeah this that this and then they would admonish me for not going to church and I'd be like grandma You haven't made a church since like the 60s.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Like you, you full of shit. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. You know, and I remember, go to my friend's house where like his grandma was like Greek Orthodox and like she had like all the icons on the walls and- Greek Orthodoxy seems cool.
Starting point is 00:14:23 It's kind of wild because it's like okay. We're doing the Catholic Ish energy, but our priests can get married and our priests can fucking get it in, right? And like you say, oh, Pa, a lot. Yeah, sure. Oh, Pa. Absolutely. You know, but most importantly, our priests can get it in. And that should result in a better overall statistical spread of anomalies. There should be less anomalies. But then historically, it's like, yeah, but what happens when you let the priests get it into much is they collect the ties and then they give it to their kids and then we get the Borges and Assassin's Creed 2. So, you know, that's that's the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Assassin's Creed 2 ending with like a fist fight instead of like a, like is so much more satisfying. fist fight instead of like a murder like is so much more satisfying But you're just like beating the shit out of like a 55 year old man in a basement Like what a fucking spectacular ending to that game is good But but all that to say that that family went on to be fucking insane and that's what happens when when you let it go on checked I want to back up a bit, because when you're talking about the going out for a smokes thing, I was reading a Reddit like, what was it, it was either like, I think it was like too afraid to ask,
Starting point is 00:15:55 or whatever one of the subreddits was, like ask Reddit or something, and someone was just kinda like, hey, so I think it was like, everything's fine in my marriage, and we're doing okay and me and my wife or me and my husband have kids and everything. Just every time he pulls in the car from work, he sits in the car for like 10 minutes before
Starting point is 00:16:17 he comes inside. Should I be worried? Is that an issue? No, that is like the most normal fucking thing. What's he doing in there? He's just sitting there. He is getting ready to put on his face for the family. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's great.
Starting point is 00:16:42 That is, that is, I'm about to walk in one half. My dad used to do that. I was seeing him. It's, I'm gonna walk in a house with a annoyed wife because you've been taking care of kids all day. A bunch of kids running around causing problems. But for right this second, it's quiet in the car. I'll tell you exactly what that is.
Starting point is 00:17:02 That is losing the first set and going back to the character select screen Just to just to pick the same character again, but you're just wasting a little bit of time Just to let's just chill. Let's just bring down the energy. Let's kill the momentum. We got a reset the situation mentally, right? So page and I were talking about my dad over the weekend and We did we we figured something out Like you ever ever like you know new information just you needed somebody new to put the pieces together so we're talking about my mom and my mom's cooking and
Starting point is 00:17:39 We watched some funny video about like a old man singing a song about being mad at his wife for not making for making spaghetti again. Now, Sikki was a spaghetti. And we're talking like I feel bad for my dad because like my mom is a great lady. She is not a good cook. She's not. She tries her best. But she's no, it's not. Mm-hmm. Right? It's mediocre at best, right? And so we're like, still can't believe you're saying this
Starting point is 00:18:09 into a microphone, but here we go. I know, I love this song. She can't work the internet, it's fine. And we're like, oh, I feel bad for dad, because he'd work long hours, then he would come home, and he would have like, okay food, right? Very white lady, like not super good food, right? Put some more butter on your rice, right?
Starting point is 00:18:29 And then page looks at me and says, how'd your dad get fat? Because my dad, when he was like my age, looked like me. And I'm like, I don't know. And then she's like, I bet there was some place next to his giant hand. Oh, there was a really great hot dog place. Oh, fucking yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Like 25 feet from where the factory was. The bell pro, the loaflers. And he turned me there a couple times and they had great hot dogs and they had these giant hamburgers. The Bell Pro, the Laflers. And he turned me there a couple times and they had great hot dogs and they had these giant hamburgers. The Delalos. Okay. So dad used to work in the machine at a big factory
Starting point is 00:19:13 and it was off the highway. Laflers? Was it the Laflers? No, no, it wasn't, but it was here there. It was off and he would be close to mercy, but so he'd get stuck in the mercy traffic coming from the west end of the island. And I'm like, he could, in my head, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:19:29 he could have gone and gotten any hot dog or any burger or anything he wanted at like, you know, when he'd finish at like five, six. And it wouldn't delay him because he'd be catching the five, six o'clock traffic on the mercy, which would always take him 90 minutes. And my dad loves to eat in the car. So, oh, dude, he was totally...
Starting point is 00:19:50 That is, like, he was totally eating burgers and fries, like, damn, like all the time. That is a Sanka set puts in every day. A five to seven putine, right? Like, the classic as soon as you check out, people do five to seven and they go for their their beer or whatever after you can he's he's getting it right in there before getting home Because yeah, otherwise where would it be coming from and I'm like wait a second and now I'm sitting here Wait did my dad have a secret place where he ate food that he wasn't supposed to It is genetic.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Um, food cheating. Amazing. So, do you ask why does dad like to eat in the car? I don't know. My dad loves to eat in the car. Like, you go out to get like food, and we will be like, oh, cool. Let's go inside.
Starting point is 00:20:41 He's like, no, no, no. Let's eat in the car. Like, he would just seem way more comfortable eating in the car. I have associated flavor memories of drive through bag, through the window, into some kind of garbage fast food. He's sitting in the front seat kind of association that's like a pleasant thing.
Starting point is 00:21:07 And it's just, so I could see maybe there's something there where the context is just like a, like oh, every time I was sitting here and we get a bag and you're like, it's fun to reach into the bag and have something nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, a little bit like that. But you know what my mom hates eating in the car. So that was always a fun.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Mm-hmm. That, man, I'm your kid and you get to just learn bit like that, but you know, my mom hates eating the car. So that was always a fun. That man, I'm your kid and you get to just learn like, like, you get to see a fight happen 15 minutes ahead of any of the conversational portions of the fight, right? Like, oh, we're going to get, we're going to get, we're driving somewhere. Okay, we have driven this place before. I know for a fact that the first McDonald's is too close to get coffee, but the second McDonald's is too far.
Starting point is 00:21:58 And then mom's gonna get her McDonald's coffee and then the first thing she's gonna do is pour 20% of it out the window on the sidewalk Because she's afraid of spilling it on herself because she read that article You're right. The lady you burned herself right right right and then she's gonna have to go to the bathroom And it's gonna be too far and then dad's not gonna want to speed and like you just what you just watch the whole thing happen Like even before you get into the car. Ah, I can't wait, I can't wait for the little guy
Starting point is 00:22:29 to learn that shit with me in page. The car association you can reinforce now as well is also the like, now you know it's the post work, pleasure meal, in secret. This one's for me, no one will ever know that, food tastes better when you're eating it in secret. This one's for me. No one will ever know that you know food tastes better when you're eating it in secret in the car on the mercy bridge. Dude I bet hot I bet steamed hot dogs is stuck in traffic on that bridge. I bet they're awesome. Yeah, God.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Yeah, I have I have associations of like eating on the street on the go when you're like hungry. I just reminds me of either like late at night, getting the like post, you post hangover noodles, you know, with the fucking peanut butter thing. That's street food street food. I am drunk. Mm-hmm. Or, or coming from the arcade, getting a slice, and like, run into catch the bus,
Starting point is 00:23:31 eating the slice quick because you've been playing for a bit and you haven't had any food jet near its after work. You know, or after school and rather. That's it. Yeah. Yeah, context makes a difference there. Um, anyway. Anyway. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Knowledge is all about asking the right questions. My wife, my wife, basically how did he get fed then? I don't know. How? And then you go through the details like, well, there's only one way. We could, we had eyes on him for most of the day Yeah
Starting point is 00:24:12 Also also if you do happen to notice what dad has that moment in the car let it be Let it let it be let that let that 10 minutes in the car be it's required Let that let that 10 minutes in the car be it's required Yes, it's it's yeah, it's it's what keeps him from from driving that You're gonna say off something yeah, there's a there's a there's a Kevin Hart bit about this in which he describes Coming home from like groceries or something and pulling into the driveway and seeing his kids hit the window And go oh dad he's like I can't do this and he goes back out He's like not yet not yet not yet
Starting point is 00:25:05 No, I'm scared. I'm gonna go for one more one more running around the block. Yeah, or the other one, I think we told Dodd-Long ago, where it's like, as the family's getting ready to go on vacation and everyone's up in the car, like the moment you shut the door with the kids in the back and the wife's in the passenger seat and you get up to walk around. And you're outside the car. That's my vacation.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's my vacation. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. All right. I'm taking on spit.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Oh, so undignified weighted duck. So, yo, this week, nobody told me, I knew everybody told me that I would love armor core, and I knew that I would everybody told me that I would love armored core and I knew that I would, I knew that I would. But nobody told me that armored core would make me feel like I was air brushing my gunplow on a Sunday morning. Just putting high, everyone put in the little, I mean the customization elements and then going out and testing them out in the gameplay aspects were always the the bit
Starting point is 00:26:06 And I know you could go in but like That vibe is very chill. It's a very very chill bars. You can do all sorts of stupid shit. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm It's a very very chill vibe. I Am and you got to dress up your dolls. I appreciate the dressing up and then the, the just the rotating and the looking at it and, you know, putting some pain apps over there, you know. I will say that it feels incredibly intimidating to watch people like, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:37 I spent a couple hours like fucking with color channels and me like, I want my robot to look pretty. And I see people like Kitting out their fucking robots with full body like anime decals or like Jive like like writhing flames that are crawling over one with gradients, and I'm just like ah It's also it seems really hard It's also funny because I remember when my roommate was like showing me a bunch of the older games and then like I had this moment before and I kind of forgot since it's been so long, but I also always assumed that the game like the overall controls were more in depth and complicated than I thought they were in the sense sense that like, I thought there was a ton more like specific things you'd be doing fine-tuning and such with overall what you're capable of
Starting point is 00:27:34 and moves and so on, but it seems like, there's a couple of things that you unlock, like you know, quick turn or whatever, but- Oh, it's fairly limited. But it's for the most part, it's just like here's your four weapons, here's your boost, here's your dodge boost, and then you go up, you go down, you know?
Starting point is 00:27:52 And like, I think of like J-Hooty having fucking a million things off the default, and then switching to each other arm, and then, you know, like, the amount of things you can do, playing a fucking around with J-Hooty in the lab, for example. And I kind of like, yeah, I was expecting to interface with something that you had to learn that much in depth,
Starting point is 00:28:13 but you really, really don't. Every time you do a build, it's very quick and simple. I would like to stop this conversation very briefly. I just got a piece of breaking news from Friend of the Show, Dad Asuna, who had the following thing to say, which I agree with, quote, "'Any time, Woolie says nobody told me it is always something that many people have told him. I have to agree. I have to agree with your sentiment that nobody told you. It was
Starting point is 00:28:42 like playing with your gunplow. It might be the second most told thing about armored core. Okay. I'm told many things all the time. Ah! That's sure! Sure, sure. I'm trying to open a a on a bit of anyway. I here's a fun thing. I didn't expect to to occur with the fun I was having with this game. I'll get into it. It is it is a turn of phrase. I suppose. But yes, a million people have told me a million things. And for my own sanity is sake, I filter out a whole lot of it. Because when I used to not do that, my life was worse.
Starting point is 00:29:29 So here we are. To continue on what you were saying prior, yeah, Jehote has four million more moves than an armored core. And like armored cores, movesets are like, in some cases, like strangely basic. So like your energy sword that you start with. You swing it twice or you do a big swing and that's the way your energy sword works. Yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 00:29:55 there's no like advanced like okay the sword has multiple things you can do with it or the it's just charge or don't you know um I think part of the way that the like I'm this is my own head fixing this is that like when you think of like Jehutti being controlled like I'm thinking of of pilot of Jehutti controlling I would like the arm to swing like this right whereas in armored, it feels like I'm hitting the button that says sword. Like in the cockpit,
Starting point is 00:30:32 the next one is hitting the sword button. And then the sword is the computerized like targeting system for the sword is going swing now. Swing and then swing again. Well, let's compare it not just to like another robot game, but to its own developer, right? Compare it to a Souls game where every trigger button is doing its primary function.
Starting point is 00:30:56 See this? Mm. How could you say? How dare how dare I know? But then like the idea that like, oh, but then like forward plus your heavy swing would be a different button. How dare I, I know. But then the idea that, oh, but then forward plus your heavy swing would be a different button and then backstep into a swing is a different button.
Starting point is 00:31:12 And so I thought there would be like all these little combinations of things per se. There is, but it's not within the basic controls. So for example, you've got your boost kick, which is a new move that is actually just dash while dashing, and you'll do a little kick, right? You also have doing your regular things out of boost, which like your guns fire slightly differently inside boosts. More damage. And your melee attacks work a little differently. But then they then it was recently discovered that there's a boost cancelling for melee attacks. So when you when you attack with melee your arms and your booster will
Starting point is 00:31:54 determine how fast and how far you will be going during the like when you're locked on you hit melee you know how you automatically boost up to the target? Like your booster has a function in there that is melee boost. It's literally how far your guy will boost forward to hit people with their with their sword or their spirit, right? If you boost to the side, before the swing actually comes out, you'll cancel the whole thing and the weapon won over heat and you can swing again. I did notice that. I actually discovered that messing around, like, as lunging in and then cancelling into a booster or so you can save weapon, the weapon from going on cool down a couple moments like that. It's cancelling, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:39 There's tech. It feels more like digital than I expected in terms of like 61 piloting the robot is going like hitting a sword button and then is looking at a bar that says sword and goes no and does the boosters and then the sword meter disappears and then they slam sword button again. Right. Like, it's like, it is more like piloting rather than controlling if that makes... Yeah, no, no, and it does, it's good that it keeps it that simple because it means switching
Starting point is 00:33:19 in and out parts, like, doesn't have... it's very easy and quick to pick up a new build and mess with it and see how it feels. Because everything is going to pretty much do its one function, per se, as opposed to like, okay, you have to learn, not just have to learn, but like, you know, the horizontal swing, the vertical swing, the stab, the ground stab, the back step, the sprinting version, you know what I mean? I think it's like, and I like when there's that stuff too, but in this case, the overall variety, and I guess the end amount of parts you're going to be cycling between will
Starting point is 00:33:53 just be so massive and numerous that you'll be able to find the exact one you want to feel. But yeah, no, that's pretty dope. I did go back in after playing a bit and just pretty much spent the time messing around and labbing it and getting used to the feeling of things. Yeah. It just feels good. It really does just feel good.
Starting point is 00:34:16 And yeah, it's very stylish, of course, the camera movement and everything like that is it keeps movement feeling good. That's also like what stands out about, you know, when you when like virtual on, right, when you first sort of play it, the way it feels when you're like sprinting on on the ground and then super boost like behind the barrier and like a lot of that engagement feels really, really sick. I, it allows it, it gives you the controls and the actual, like, not just the controls, but the control over your robot
Starting point is 00:34:49 to the point where you can do the things that I wanted to do. So, Flurry of Missiles, boost towards target one, blow them away with the shotgun, auto-lock to the guy to my right, but I'm boosting so hard that I slide around in a semi circle and then do the slash before he can even turn to like his turning right.
Starting point is 00:35:13 And it's like, yeah, yeah, that's the one I wanted to do. And it looks so good to do it. The things that become stock footage and mecha anime, right? So there's something that you see very often when they when they have like in Gundam, for example, there'll be like a the main suit will boost up to an enemy, do a slash on it, and then boost away before it explodes type of thing. And like you do that. You do that exact that yeah, that exact rhythm, you know, of how the stock footage looks. You can make it like your own fucking anime in your head with that.
Starting point is 00:35:48 The missions, we basically, yeah, I went, did the strider boss, that was pretty cool. And I'm like, yeah, I've seen a bunch of, like, these exactly giant set piece bosses, you know, so you're just kind of like taking it on and you get a, you get a, just that giant map as well that you're like, oh yeah, and if you go back in here, I'm sure there's interesting things to go pay attention to left, right? There's hidden parts, there's, there's, there's, not audio logs, but like text logs that
Starting point is 00:36:21 tell you more of the story. And there are combat logs, which are basically little hidden encounters around. And then the combat logs in particular, once you get enough of them, it'll give you parts that are associated with getting combat logs. A lot of them are really cool. And it's also like, I mean, at this point, it's not nothing fancy in video games, but it was dope to be like, let me sneak when I did the wall mission I'm gonna sneak up on the left side take out all the cannons on the wall take out the main objective Objective in front of it and then go back to the the stuff in front and when they when you do that like on the comms
Starting point is 00:36:58 You know Walters like hey, okay now all you have left is that like the the dialogue is changing from which objective you're doing first and stuff and that's all dope I Don't know how many indoor missions they're going to be but like there's a good amount Okay, as long as you include underground as indoor Yeah, like close quarters no freedom to go vertical Yeah, so that that requires that different builds definitely. I would say about two thirds of the game are in some form of open space and about one third is in either a facility or like a underground. Like constrained area. And yeah, that led up to the the juggernaut, which was
Starting point is 00:37:39 a pretty cool. I hope you have a way to get around the back of this robot. Yeah, it was it was it was interesting to see it be like again from From soft assist in the in the fight for the beginning of it and then all right. I'm out fuck you Deal with it for reals this time and I was like oh no. I was talking shit Like yeah, I have to say like you get to see him on a couple more missions, but even early on in that very first mission, like, okay, you're going to be teaming up with Rusty on this mission. And then Rusty's just like, hey, buddy, okay, we got this.
Starting point is 00:38:18 And you're just like, I love you, Rusty. Rusty called me his buddy. And he's going to help me with in the boss fight. Rusty, Rusty called me his buddy and he's gonna help me with in the boss fight. There was also, um, they're like, Hey, your, your designation is gun 13. And it's like, you that's your second call sign. Meanwhile, the mission you just did was some random fucking bright eyeed new, who was like, this kid was probably going to go on to be a mecca protagonist in his own anime. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:44 And, and the cold reality of the world's caught up with him. Yeah, you're like, he's supposed to make it after his team gets wiped out and the PTSD scars him, and he can then use that to solve the problems and save the world, right? Fuck no. Get Beamsaber, kid. He's actually saying shit like like I've trained my whole life for this. Yeah, yeah. And it's like, I'm sorry knock off Camille Bidon.
Starting point is 00:39:11 You have to go. And meanwhile, Walter's just like target eliminated. All right, good job. Back to base. Here's your pay. You know, like just the cold harsh brudette brutal, you know, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the shown in protagonist meets the cult, the the real robot simulator, you know, on that note as well.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Go ahead. Oh, sorry, no, after you. Mine's a non-sequitor. No, just add on that note. Motherfuckers are out there plugging in their steel battalion controllers and doing first-person mods to get the real experience going which is insane. I want to play that game in first person. Neither do I. It's cool. It's super cool and I appreciate it. However, I want to see my toys doing the cool thing. I also don't want to get sick. And it's just way like it's just it's more awesome when you see yourself dodging than when you just camera side while the thing goes behind you. It looks so much sicker. So the I get it, but I know it's not as cool.
Starting point is 00:40:23 The game's difficulty curve is fucking fascinating because the parts are almost all side grades. There are very few parts that are like objectively better versions of an existing part. They're all just like, oh, this one's a little better, that's this one. Right. And so like as you're going through,
Starting point is 00:40:39 the missions are getting much, much harder. And it's not that your robot is getting better, it's just ideally you are building it to be more in tune with what works for you. Yes, yeah, I can imagine. But they start to throw, like the curve is like a straight line. It's like, okay, here's your fight.
Starting point is 00:41:04 But, jog or not, right? And then your next fight is like a straight line. It's like, okay, here's your fight. But, jog or not, right? And then your next fight is like a proximate AC with good pilots. But, and then after that is unfair robot. But I would imagine that early on, because you don't have access to a ton of parts to shop with, like there is some degree of also though, the answer lies within these few choices.
Starting point is 00:41:31 If you're still having trouble, you need to figure out how to move better, how to aim better, how to handle your boost and so on, which, you know, like when you hit that helicopter right off the front, right, right off the bat, it's like, okay, take a minute here, get used to the system, learn how to dodge. Definitely have everything you need because you're only going to be able to fight it with what you have on you right now. Exactly, you know, so there is an element of that to as well where it's like you might run into that problem, but there's two things to consider, you know.
Starting point is 00:41:58 There's a sequence in which a weird little bubble gun shows up. I got the bubble gun, yeah. in the sun, in the shop, and it goes, hey man, this is really good for destroying enemy shields. And then you fight a guy who uses the bubble gun against you, and you're like, wow, this is really good for destroying my shields. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:21 And then you fight a boss, and it's like, the boss is protected by the big shield. Right. And then you fight a boss and it's like the boss is protected by the big shield. Yeah. So I looked at it and I went, I don't want this thing on my kit right now, but I want the ability to stick it on when the time comes. So utility purchase needs to be made. And like I feel like some weapons are like some weapons are like, some weapons are like, this is a direct replacement for the thing I currently have.
Starting point is 00:42:48 And some of them are, you will need this in a scenario. And when that scenario comes, make sure that it's in your toy box. Yeah. Yeah, like later on, there's like, once you get the tetrapod legs, which will you hover.
Starting point is 00:43:01 There's a boss that is very difficult and has a very small weak spot, but it has a second weak spot directly on top of its body. Yeah, you're mentioning right, right, right, right, you just hover and shoot them for multiple minutes. And then I've gotten far enough into the game in which it did something that I'm absolutely thrilled about. There's a couple bosses in this game that are just absolute progression stoppers that like Sekiro shows up inside this game. One is the Act One Final Boss and then the other is the Act Four Boss.
Starting point is 00:43:35 And it is like you fight big bosses and then you fight armored cores and then at some point you end up going against what is essentially jihu tea like like this is this is from Gundam wing This is not a fucking it's not a real robot. It's a super robot. It doesn't move like the core It doesn't act like your core. It should be it should be hanging out with Mazen Kaiser
Starting point is 00:44:03 The pilot has bigger hair than you think. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. His art lines are thicker. His outlines are alive. Right, right, right. No, that shit seems fucking fantastic. And yeah, and then I kind of am also just like, uh, just I'm messing around. I see like, okay, here's access to like some giant shoulder cannons, you know, it's like, okay, how do you want to play this?
Starting point is 00:44:31 And it's like, oh, I like those, but you can't, if you're, if you're all four giant shoulder cannons, then you better not miss, you know, so like, because I took out a build where I'm like big, strong blast. And then I put a, an AC down in the training mode. And it's just like dodge, dodge, bro. We're gonna have your FCS. And like, just like that. Just like that. Or, or I guess you have to shoot them while they're firing so that they can't move away.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Yes, yes, yes. And so I kind of figured out a little build where I'm like, oh, okay, like, I got a sword, I got a big cannon. And then the shoulders can pepper them up with some light missiles and, you know, once you get in and up close, you slash, slash over to the pan. So what's interesting is that one of the conditions
Starting point is 00:45:14 that I had not considered prior to playing the game is that so you mentioned like big shoulder cannons. There's some big bazookas, like really huge bazookas. Dude, you're walking into a mission on some of those bazookas, like really huge bazookas. Dude, you're walking into a mission on some of those bazookas with like 32 shots. Yeah, yeah, the ammo running low. Yeah, that I remember from back in the day as well. Amos a problem. Real low. Not every mission is going to give you the reload, right? That's it. And then of course, like I just this morning, I saw that clip of And then of course like I just this morning I saw that clip of
Starting point is 00:45:46 fucking Armored core revenge and where it hurts your fucking weapons. Yeah, so like is that is there a yes What's the button for that to just like drop a buff? It's hold down For good you your weapon has to be empty and I think you go to reload it and instead of reloading it You just drop it off. Okay, that's sick. Is it, does it have to unlock that? Does it affect your stats when you, when you purge? Yeah, it makes you faster.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Yes, okay. Fuck yeah, because that's such a cool looking thing. But I'm like, please let it have an actual in-game aflame. It does make you faster. That's great. Hell yeah. So the OS upgrade that you get it lets you go into missions
Starting point is 00:46:29 over burden like above your weight limit. And over your weight limit you will be slower and you will boost slower blah blah blah. And I think the intention is that you load up on some fucking monstrosity of like just power weapon and then run out and then throw it away. That's it. And now you'll leave.
Starting point is 00:46:46 You know, you'll be faster. I found no use for that at all. That seems like swag. Swag. It seems like a way stronger and multiplayer than it is in fucking the missions where missions are going to go for a while. That I just I just it like obviously it's a desperate moment at the end of the fucking fight When nothing is left anyways and you have nothing to lose
Starting point is 00:47:10 But the weight that's holding you down with right if you're growing out go out properly go out in style go out swinging That is awesome very very cool. So when I was playing last week I was talking with the chat, and they were asking me if I was gonna do new game plus. And I might why would I do new game plus? And they're like, cause new game plus has more missions. And more story.
Starting point is 00:47:36 And new parts. And different bosses. And so does new game plus plus plus. Yeah, I've caught the low down that this is. God damn. I've caught the low down that this is not a like, this is not a hit the credits, your done situation. This is a like make your choices,
Starting point is 00:47:57 get your, get your ending and then play it again and see the new shit that you didn't see and then play it again and see the even newer shit. Yeah, because there's definitely a major path divergence middle of the game. And then do both of those, I guess, and then on your third run, there'll be a third option instead of either of those.
Starting point is 00:48:23 I guess my only curiosity is like, are we talking about like extra context on the complete story, or are we talking about the story's continuing alleneer, you know? I believe the story changes. Oh, interesting, okay. Cause I know the final boss is different on each run. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:44 That's like, that seems cool. Fantastic. So Rusty, you know Rusty, his insanely cool spinning sort thing? I just saw him for that one moment. Okay, so he's got like a fucking Darth Maul lightsaber as his sword.
Starting point is 00:49:02 And the attack is like, it spins in like a huge combo okay right and I'm looking at that like fuck when do I get that new game pluses when you get okay you don't get it all like a like a captain Levi roll yeah yeah okay yeah it's like shit Nice I want it like you'll beat all the you'll beat all the mechs in the in the in the in the Versus mode and you'll get their data and you'll go to load them and they'll be like parts not available For like almost every single
Starting point is 00:49:45 Core that you actually fight in the arena. It'll say parts not available. Are there interactions like if two sorts beams slash at the same time, do they like? No, no, okay. No, you will hit each other. Okay. Are there legs that interface with like surfaces and walls at all like the treads will roll over shit okay but like you can't get like the quads to like land on a wall or anything
Starting point is 00:50:12 like that no okay okay all right no um yeah treads are weird because since you're actually on the ground with tank treads the game treats it seriously And so like you have really weird wide turns But boy you can make it heavy Yeah, you make that thing heavy as fuck I Like the the little nimble like jumper legs to that seems seems like you can. That's what I've been using for 99% of the game, is who savor mobility and just like, yeah, it seems like you can, you can,
Starting point is 00:50:50 they're worse than regular by pedal legs, like on every like numerical metric. You can't, you can't have as much shit. They have less HP, they get staggered more easily, they're not as fast, but they jump four times higher, and when you do the boost to the side, instead of a little hop, it's a massive leap to the side.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Right, okay. And that one change is like, oh yeah, no, I want that. Yeah, I want that big jump. The, I can see that there's some stuff, sometimes the builds I'm curious to try out, but it's like, hey, you literally don't have the engine for this, the generator, or the, you know, like, you got to get lighter legs, or, you know what I mean, you're going to have to play with the bits and pieces, but up front, it's like weapons are the priority. That's going to change the most about how things feel.
Starting point is 00:51:42 And then really legs, legs is the priority. Really? Everything on that robot is defined by its legs. Huh. So reverse joint is gonna be light. You're not gonna be packing that thing with tons of high end weapons. It's gonna be light.
Starting point is 00:52:03 By paddle legs and then tetrapods and then, and then what do you call it? Tank treads, that's gonna determine your total carrying capacity. And then that'll determine, like it goes legs, then weapons. And then you're gonna fill out the rest of your guy after that.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Okay. With some little details, each part has a hidden, not a hidden, each part has a bonus feature that is hidden in the stats menu. So like head determines how fast your scan comes back, how long it lasts and how far it goes. Um, but I, I, but I guess like, what I, if you get like, for example, I felt I tried out some weapons that I didn't really like the the the the feel of not individually, but like they didn't mesh together. So like if you have a bazooka and then you've got like a like a little say a bazooka and
Starting point is 00:52:58 like a shotgun and then you have the the missiles that are doing the pincer attack that take too long to really you you know, do anything. And it's like, I kind of try to build up. I actually tried that exact thing for a little bit and did not like it. I didn't like it, right? And so I'm just like, well, whatever mobility options I have, every one of these trigger buttons
Starting point is 00:53:16 is just not synergizing with the rest of it. They're all different ranges, which is the biggest problem on that, is that, and you can't get a good FCS that actually covers all three ranges Right, I haven't tried out the different FCS's But the overall thing thought is like oh well, okay step one is like what weapon are you swinging around that needs to work With what else you have and then you could do that what and then I'm like what load up on the guns you want and then find a leg that would support and let you accommodate it.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Yeah, that's kind of how I'm thinking about it. And when I do the tetrapods, is such an huge weight increase from regular bipedal legs, it's like double. Like you go from, oh, I don't know if I can equip it to like, yeah, no, you can equip it. So just sticking around with the test loads, loadouts and stuff, like, oh, I don't know if I can equip it to like, yeah, no, you can equip it. Yeah. So just Just digging around with the with the test loads loadouts and stuff. Like I said, I kind of was like, okay I can see here like I have a rhythm that works which involves some big charge shots a lot of dodging Peppering with the missiles disable slash, right? But But I noticed that like oh well this works
Starting point is 00:54:31 Um, but I noticed that like, oh, well, this works, but sometimes I get up real close and then my calculation on the slash ends up going right past the enemy, right? I'm like, oh shit. I boosted too hard. Boosted too hard or, um, they were moving left and I was slashing right and then we kind of went, wow. So, um, I'm now I'm open. and wow, so I'm now I'm open. So I'm like, this is a point where I would like my, then I'd be like, all right, with this style, let me get some legs or some boosts that'll allow me to cancel out and my that momentum and like, change tactics when I see them over shooting it, you know, or tighten up on the turn, for example, or something like that.
Starting point is 00:55:02 The further I've gone into it, the more that I have realized that the secondary stuff. So, you know, there's the look at your stats on the thing and then there's open up the big menu to raise your stats. Yeah. So I mentioned scan that arms have a hidden one that's a vital importance. So there's firearms specialization, which is the one that the game surfaces to you, which is how accurate is a gun being fired
Starting point is 00:55:30 from this arm gonna be higher number is better, right? Really important stat. Does it affect deflecting at all, or is it just? No, no, it's accuracy. It's lock on time with the arm. Like how long does it take to get to the lock on? But if you open up that big menu, there's actually a second stat that is melee weapon adjustment.
Starting point is 00:55:57 And that is a damage multiplier on melee weapons using that arm. And anything above 100 is more. And anything above 100 is more damage. Anything below 100 is less damage. Some arms modify just because they're swinging. Yeah, because they're made for melee. There's an arm set called Bashow. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:24 Yeah. Is that the, wait, am I just reading that currently for chat? BASHO. Okay. Yeah. Wait, am I just reading that incorrectly? Is that really called BASHO? Yeah, they're BASHO. Oh my god. The BASHO arms. Hey, guys, what?
Starting point is 00:56:36 They have a male A-spec of like 145. He gay. I put them on. And I BAS bashed them motherfuckers with my hand. So there's that and then your booster, there's some of the chat said it perfectly, there is a difference between a good booster that's really fast and useful and energy efficient and a good melee booster. Because a good melee booster, the dash during your, when you hit the melee button can be like twice as far. Okay. So I have a, I have a, I have a melee booster and I have the bash of arms.
Starting point is 00:57:19 So when I go to swing, I fucking swing. Now, when you hold down melee on like the sword, it does a boost of its own, right? So are you? So the way that that works is if the boost coming off your mech for a melee does not happen unless you are target locked. If you are target locked, you will do a melee dash. If you are not target locked, it will just swing right in front of them. It's not about holding it. Holding it gives you a melee dash. If you're not target locked, it will just swing right in front of them. It's not about holding it.
Starting point is 00:57:45 Holding it gives you a different move. Oh, the boost is just for locking on. Okay, I see. Does the user boost meter to do that? melee boost? I don't know. Is it free? No.
Starting point is 00:58:00 Is it free? I don't know. Is it free? It does a little bit. Okay. But less. Okay. That's efficient.
Starting point is 00:58:10 And you can do it with no energy. Yeah. Yeah, I wanna fuck around with that. I also wanna fuck around with the ability to like, you know, less boost, but big hover. Hopefully I wanna, you know, maybe a build that can be like big hover and then, you know, death rains from above style, just unleash the missiles. There's a, there's a lot of little tiny pieces that end up adding to a lot. So the kick
Starting point is 00:58:36 that you're robot can do is really good. It does way more damage to staggered opponents, but it's also really good for staggering opponents. The damage it does depends on your weight. It's not your legs. It's how heavy the robot is, because you're boosting and hitting them with robots. It's the impact, of course. Yeah, yeah. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:58:58 But, and I have a build right now. I ran it for most of the game. I have two melee weapons on my left arm. So if you get the shoulder expansion, you can trade out like missile launchers, or for just other hands. Yeah. Hell yeah. So you can have, you wouldn't be able to,
Starting point is 00:59:20 you can't fire them off your shoulders, right? But you can switch them. But you can, so hold But you can still hold on. So the extra arms serve to hold any other weapon that you can normally hold. So the build that I ran for chapter 2, 3, and 4 was I had a shotgun in my right hand. I had an energy sword in my left hand.
Starting point is 00:59:39 On my right shoulder was a slightly longer range machine gun that I could switch to if something was a slightly longer range machine gun that I could switch to if something was a little too far away. And on my left shoulder was the pile bunker. And so what I would do is I would run in and shoot with the shotgun until they were almost staggered. Then I would stagger them with the laser sword and in the stagger animation,
Starting point is 01:00:02 I would switch between the laser sword and the pile bunker and then I would fucking pile bunk the shit out of them while staggered. And when you switch, your cooldown is fresh. Yeah, the weapons have separate cooldowns. So you're good to go immediately on the first stagger moment. Okay, that's what I, okay. Yeah, that's worth dedicating a shoulder to, like a weapon rack, that's what I, okay. Yeah, that's worth dedicating a shoulder to like a weapon rack. That's fucking sick. Nice. Yeah. Um, it's good. It's, I like it. I hit it. Yeah. You can also like, you know, the really ginormous minigun that that has to go down. I have not
Starting point is 01:00:37 seen that yet, but I was hoping to get one. I want to not I want to one mission away. Like doom style just yeah. So that thing has a cool down period. Like it, it overheats and turns right and you gotta chill it for a second because it doesn't reload. But you can put it on your back on your shoulder and just shoot anything else while you wait
Starting point is 01:00:59 for it to cool down. We're going to do it down. Yeah. I want my heavy arms built for sure as well. Yeah. And you know what? I'm really happy about is that this game is Fantastic for on stream off stream There's a lot that you can do every mission and get all the because Getting the combat logs is really hard is really hard
Starting point is 01:01:27 Yeah Combat logs is really hard, is really hard. Yeah, there's in particular, I did do it on stream, but I was sitting there getting ready to just give up where it's a mission of like do a whole mission. But if you go out of the way a little bit, you can fight a very tough mercenary armored core off to the side, who is harder than the rest of the mission, combined, and he has the combat log, so you have to go kill him as the first thing, and then do the rest of the mission with the pitiful fucking repair kits you have left, and there's no checkpoints.
Starting point is 01:01:58 Oh, so I had that on the mission where you have the two guys that are talking shit about you, early on, and like there's a dude off to the side that's like, yeah, the damn mission. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly, right? So yeah, so usually what happens is you have, you go fight the combat log guy right away. And then when you get to the checkpoint, it'll save and it'll go, okay, the checkpoint includes you having gotten that combat log. But some missions have zero checkpoints Submissions are like short
Starting point is 01:02:30 But they're not they're just really hard Yeah, that's cool. That's cool. And you have to make any of the let that weapon fucking am like let your ammo survive both fights and For me was the health it was the the the the, I would go out and I would beat him. And I would use up like all three of the health kits that I came in with. And I'm like, I gotta do the whole rest of the mission with no healing. I would like to imagine a mission where like by the time
Starting point is 01:02:58 you survive the optional boss and then you make it to the end, you have nothing left, so you just have to punch the last objective building until it blows up and then get out of there, you know. But yeah, no, it's perfect for off screen on screen because you can progress forward with the story very easily and there seems to be a good amount of it as we've been discussing. And then off screen, replay that mission, collect what you want to, play with your fucking toys, You know? Yeah, I would, I went, I like I burned through like the C B and A ranks in the arena off camera.
Starting point is 01:03:35 And there's only one thing that's wrong with the versus like the arena. And that is that the arena in Armor Core 6 is using pilot data and you're fighting them in a box like a fighting game arena. The real pilots are like a hundred times stronger than their versions in the arena, which is like kind of a nice detail. Okay, is it like the difference between let's say a boss, a soul's boss AI pattern and a soul's NPC AI pattern? Kind of like that. You know what I mean? Like sometimes the real thing versus the imitation. Right. Yeah, like sometimes when it loads in like an NPC invader, the way that those fights can be like way harder in some instances just because of the way the behavior is yeah, okay, okay, okay interesting Okay, yeah, so I'm gonna be fucking playing with my toys
Starting point is 01:04:40 It's very much playing with your dolls. It's it's like Like it's like I'm gonna go I did shoot the robot man. Come on do it. It's great Meanwhile Over in Baldur's Gate 3 played a little bit more hit the Emerald Grove Before we before we talk about Baldur's Gate can we take a a two second break so I can use the washer bear be right So excuse me while I chew what you have an
Starting point is 01:05:18 Some chicken nice Punch mom was Went out to the Nice. Punchbomb went out to the Acadian New Brunswick area and there's a says some chicken out there that's pretty good, but only in New Brunswick and she brought some back and it's fucking great. That's too far to go get chicken.
Starting point is 01:05:41 It's good chicken. Dixie Lee, it's called. It's too far to go get chicken. It's good chicken. Dixie Lee it's called. It's good shit. So got to the emerald grove. Yeah. And just kind of hit that interface a little bit, learned some of the ropes is funny because as you called to be like hey disadvantage is The worst of two dice. We had we just figured that out right and thus advantage is the best of two dice and so on and Incredible which is very good very good
Starting point is 01:06:21 Yeah It's it's a lot Um, yeah. It's, it's a lot. There's a lot going on in the system and there's a lot to get wrong. And there's a lot to, to not, uh, you know, to, to kind of like, to read on about which, um, definitely, I'm like, I'm down to do. I just, uh, like, I hope it's not like too much of a fucking, you know, uh, uh, like wall. when it's like, okay, let's just check out what this word means.
Starting point is 01:06:47 Okay, cool. That's what it is. And then you're like, all right, go next. So yeah, but it is fun as well because I'm like, I'm trying to look at situations and like see, like, hey, is there something I can use here? That'll be like an unconventional solution or something fun I can apply to the situation. But yeah, in some circumstances it's kind of like, okay, so you're also trying to memorize the difference between how, so I'm learning like how my Monk plays for example.
Starting point is 01:07:20 And there's the key that you're kind of using and then, And there's the key that you're kind of using and then Yeah, there's it took a minute to kind of like go into some of the The stuff with like how shout out heart plays and I guess each character is gonna teach you a bit about each class and how to use them and No, the game's not gonna teach you anything. That's kind of this. Well not teach It's gonna like it'll give you the different Clot different characters are gonna give you different exposure to different classes, right? Mm-hmm. So If you happen to play the same class as one of the NPCs, then you'll already be familiar with it
Starting point is 01:07:55 But otherwise here's your Here's what it's like if you're playing as a mage. Here's what it's like if you're playing as a you know Barbarian etc. You know, yeah One of the, oh, it's gone. Never mind. So you got to Emerald, it's gone. You got to Emerald Grove,
Starting point is 01:08:16 and I don't know how much time you spent there, but did it like one of the things that hit me when I went to Emerald Grove was like, oh, look at all these NPCs milling around. No, no, no, it's, look at all these characters milling around because every single person in that entire fucking town is voice acted with dialogue and things to talk about and things for you to ask about. And like, and has a real, real fucking name.
Starting point is 01:08:50 Every thing, even the kids. Yeah, we will, like at one point I like went up a mountain side right by the front gate and like there was an orc and a dead body. And people were like, oh, that's a character that you can actually like talk to and hang out with. I was like, oh, well, why are they dead? Like, is it just timing? It took too long. It's just time, yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:09:11 Well, yeah, all right, fair enough then. As long as it's not like, oh, that just happens sometimes. You have to get unlucky, you know, or whatever. Yeah, the, the, and then I guess the other bit to it is as well as like the way you're looting, especially, and this is split screen is a very interesting experience because like some bodies are looted, some are unloaded, and when you looted and you grab some stuff, you're putting them to wears, you're going to say maybe sell some later, and then they kind of get jumbled into the whole list on your character sheet, which the person pouch
Starting point is 01:09:48 arrangement system, I can see how that becomes immensely necessary later. I couldn't tell if there were any quick sorting options to just group things into classification of like all your stuff. There are you click and left on the stick. Was there okay? Yeah. Because like staring at the open bag, I was like, left on the stairs. Was there okay? Yeah. Because like staring at the open bag, I was like, where's the thing I just picked up? It's not at the bottom. Oh, it's shit.
Starting point is 01:10:11 It's somewhere in the middle here. Okay, you know, and yeah, there's definitely just a bunch of that. And, you know, there were definitely, there were a couple of moments as well. We're just like, okay, like let's pause, take a break, you know, go there are definitely there are a couple of moments as well We're just like okay like let's pause take a break. Yeah, go get a some water and like Reggie's just kind of like Dude, there's a lot happening in this game There's a lot there is a lot going on there is there is and
Starting point is 01:10:39 I can see It's beloved on the basis of how accurately like we've been talking about, it represents the freedom of choice you get when you play these things. I am curious how people who are brand new, like I am going in are like finding their onboarding experience with it.
Starting point is 01:11:01 If you're somebody who, let's say, I mean, whatever, let's say that I have no DMD knowledge whatsoever. If you're just kind of like jumping in as video game. But at the same time too, it is different when you are called also like, you know, you've got an afternoon to just kind of like, save and load and fuck around with options, see what things do. Yeah, it's right. To the people who are just completely brand new, the onboarding is like just,
Starting point is 01:11:30 like just, there's no rush, everything's turn based. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. I feel as if to save and load while learning and doing, oh yeah. Like is this gonna function the way I think it's going to function Yeah, and I will do a couple of those I guess I'm I'm a bit hesitant to do it too much just because I feel like it might be like annoying to watch you know um if it's constantly in that like just consequenceless
Starting point is 01:12:03 thing but but man there's just there's just a whole lot of choices at all times and an over and a feeling that like five of them are correct but like maybe the maybe the thing you want to do is a good call but you cannot do it right now and the moment where you have to go shit, okay, I had a good idea, but I'm unable to do it based on the system. What is the system thing that I need to know about? Is it because I need a short rest or is it because I didn't, you know, map it to my memorized spells for this morning or, and then a couple things you have to go through the checklist on, and that I think is gonna end up taking some time.
Starting point is 01:12:49 But the more time you spend offline, I'm sure the more you smooth out a lot of these things, you know? But you're also just figuring out how shit works and new things to do, like all the way to the end. Like right now, I'm in the opening hours of Act 2. And in my mind, I'm like, I wanna go back
Starting point is 01:13:13 and do Act 1 better. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Right. Like, have a better handle on just how things actually occur. And the other thing is, I have to have blind trust that the games, like descriptions, are worded as precisely and as exact as possible.
Starting point is 01:13:31 They're pretty good. Because they really are your only lifeline, you know, when you have nothing else to go on. So, like, there was a moment or two where I was like, oh, selecting this option from the list, some of the options are for throwing the thing, some of them are for just using it on yourself and you need to make sure that,
Starting point is 01:13:53 like if you absolutely wanna throw it, then just go to throw first and then grab the thing if it can be thrown. But I went to throw a potion and I selected it and it just casted on myself and I was like, oh, right, I drank it and it says. And it's like, what does it say? And at the bottom it says, uses a potion versus throwing this thing, you know?
Starting point is 01:14:12 And then there was a bit where I was like, and again, I know that like, how do I describe this? Like, I know I have my cereal overthinking issue that everyone is concerned about. And I know that I'm also kinda like, yeah, let me if I did whatever we'll just roll with whatever happens as a result of, zicking or zacking. But so the particular context I remember is like,
Starting point is 01:14:36 I had Greece, a Greece scroll, right? Yeah. And I was like, okay, you can throw it, and it says, coats everything in in Greece and then that causes things to be slippery and then they'll fall down and they'll be prone. Yeah, it prones people. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:14:52 Now to me, I'm like also, it's you. Yes, now I would also go, like, I also imagine that like this would be a flammable thing because that's usually you toss oil on someone and then you'd light them on fire for some nice big dapage. That's correct. That is a flammable thing because that's usually you toss oil on someone and then you'd light them on fire for some nice big death. That's correct. That is absolutely flammable. Right.
Starting point is 01:15:09 Now when you get grease as an object, it says a flammable grease that you can throw at a thing. But when you get it as a scroll, the word flammable is removed. And I only got the scroll at first and I didn't get the regular grease until after. So I was like, why wouldn't it mention on this that it can be combined?
Starting point is 01:15:28 The main reason is because historically grease is flammable, but also so that if you use it and then use a fire spell on top of it and don't know that that's going to happen, you will have a fun surprise. Well, the oil does definitely, or rather the grease object does then say it. I keep saying oil because I also know that,
Starting point is 01:15:50 I'm like, what if there is a separate object called oil that is not grease, so whatever the case. You know, but yeah, yeah. The main thing is that people, or just somebody in the chat mentioned that physics interactions are not described in tool tips. Okay. So like there are, so like wet people will take double damage from lightning. Okay. That's not to actually.
Starting point is 01:16:15 There's a lot of other than when you zap somebody who is wet, it'll, it'll, it'll, fucking get them. In though, in this case, there's two grease items. One mentions flammable, one doesn't, right? It was fine in the end. We say grease item. What do you mean grease item? Sorry.
Starting point is 01:16:31 Only one grease. There's a grease scroll. And then there was a thing that was like, was it a grease vial? Or yeah, okay. So this is, this isn't incredibly like, ass and eye distinction that I'm making. Mm-hmm. incredibly like ass and eye and distinction that I'm making. But there's a there's a Greece bottle, which is the Greece item you're describing. But then there is scroll of yeah, in brackets,
Starting point is 01:16:57 magic spell, right. Greece. And thus that is like treated as like a fucking different thing. Yeah. Everybody can use scrolls in in BG3 Which is something I'm not used to I'm used to D&D games saying you have to have a certain Arcana proficiency or whatever the fuck to be able to even read a scroll the fact that every scroll in the game is like Yeah, I'll fucking to not let me chew out a pet throw down. I stole it. Yeah So that everyone can have the fun that the game system allows That's a good call. I get it, you know, cuz that's crazy a consumable, but still here's the fun
Starting point is 01:17:33 You know if you want to talk to animals, but you don't have that ability well use a consumable for it It's fun because there's actually there's actually a lever That is a really stuck that my strength character just fucking manhandled that I later found out that if you cast grease on the lever anyone can pull it because you've greased it up you lived it up that size yeah yeah I am and then then like a second bit of like okay well this is just getting used to to game works, you know, is when you cast the scroll, it's going to pop in the location you pick as opposed to like throwing the bottle type of thing. So, yeah, you know, like it just it will just spawn in mid-air, you know, um, like
Starting point is 01:18:19 the ground is dropping items out of your inventory doesn't take a turn. dropping items out of your inventory doesn't take a turn. Wow. Interesting. Just you know that you can, you can, you load up a, a, a character with 40 barrels of, of bomb. Hmm. And just, and just run them up to something and then just drop a fucking atom bomb on top of a boss
Starting point is 01:18:46 without spending an action. Yeah, nice. There was another moment of casting silence, I think, where it's like, oh, silence is a fixed location, not a affliction on a person. Isn't that strange? Very strange, but cool because it reminds me of Transmetropolitan Where you could pop open a silence a can of silence toss it in a room and then no one can hear what's going on as
Starting point is 01:19:17 As long as that can't you know, so it's like it's like an air and air bubble shield dome of like everything in here stays in here Yeah, it's a, not at all, the what I would expect because I feel like at least from playing it, silence would be cast on a person, you know, as an ailment on them. Yeah, darkness is also cast on an area instead of a person. Hmm, blindness is cast on a person. Only silence then is cast in an area? No, darkness as well. Sorry, sorry, okay. So it changes, it's like mixes and matches.
Starting point is 01:19:57 Yeah, depends. Okay. So here's my mentality is you are creating silence. Yeah. You are creating silence. Yeah. You are creating darkness versus you are blinding the person. Yes. It is sometimes like silence is a useful thing to cast on inanimate objects versus specifically trying to make someone blind.
Starting point is 01:20:24 You might not there there's other uses. Yeah, so like one of the uses of silence is that enemies that have like call outs that would bring reinforcements, they don't work if they're silent. If you put silence on top of mages, then most of them can't cast their spells because spells require somatic components.
Starting point is 01:20:45 But like, would silence then allow you to modify anything that makes a sound whatsoever in that dome Or is it is it modify just to make it make it quiet? Well, anything that is there like if there's any sort of noise alert of any kind in the game Yeah, if you put if you cast silence on top of a door and then smash the door, then no one will hear the door smash. Right. So that's what that's why you people people were using it to like blow up walls. Mm hmm. Like like stealthily. Right. And explosions are undetected and so on versus just thinking about it as a you can't talk spell. Mm hmm. Which is the, you know, the basic of it. Oh, wow. I didn't, somebody in the chat says it also prevents thunder wave entirely,
Starting point is 01:21:32 because thunder wave uses thunder damage, which is a sound. That makes, that makes perfect sense. Thunder damage would be completely like nullified by silence. Are you and you're playing with your controller or with the mouse and keyboard? I'm playing with my controller. Okay. I also noticed the difference between last week and this week is obvious. Right before the console version came out they clearly went on a full pass on the controller interface. We ran into some bugs on the controller
Starting point is 01:22:11 as the last week, like Reggie had to disconnect and reconnect his controller at least twice. Back off fixed. Okay, nice. The bugware backing out of the proficiency selection in your equipment also got fixed. Yeah, the bug where counters you have you Select things too quickly got fit like couldn't he couldn't select anything during a counter or there was once where player one had to
Starting point is 01:22:37 Refocus on the window for player 2 to be able to move um, and it was fixed with A disconnect reconnect or reloading thankfully, but still like, yeah, it's annoying. That being said though, there's still some stuff where man, two cut scene conversations happening at the same time is weird. The game is struggling.
Starting point is 01:22:58 Listen, the game works in split screen, which is incredible, but due to the reality of a large scale storyline RPG, certain decisions had to get made. Yeah, I get it. I get it. I would not have been surprised if they said wait for the first conversation to end before you start this one, but they just wait for it. One of the biggest things that they added in the patch a couple days ago was
Starting point is 01:23:27 Withers is wardrobe So withers will now have the ability to remove Split screen partners from your party That that was a feature that was not available So let's say you and Reggie were playing you did that stream right and then you're like, okay, Reggie I'm gonna play this game by myself. Reggie's character was going to be stuck in your party, not not even like in the in the gang, but like in your party forever.
Starting point is 01:23:55 Uh, because I think the idea of building that was like, well, why would you play at the split screen session without your buddy? Mm-hmm. But now you talked about withers and with shove that, that dude in the closet. I know you get your, your full three party slots. That's, that's useful. It also feels as if some of the way you can split screen to conversations and like a lot
Starting point is 01:24:20 of that, some of that jankness is also in service to effectively allow a like competitive multiplayer version of the game. It feels like it seems as if you can you mean it seems like you can play this game in a way where you are you are playing it at the same time, but you're not necessarily playing it together. You know, you can race towards the objectives, you can fuck up whatever's going on, you can sabotage, you can be antagonists. Attacked stick. There's a really good example with Gail and Astarion in that there's a the essentially you get a hold of the Necronomicon at some point in act one and Gale wants to eat it and if you're about to do that a starian will yell at you to not give him the book
Starting point is 01:25:15 that he wants the book instead and If you were playing as these characters Yeah, you could both split up and make a fucking sprint for it and get it before the other one did. I'm curious to see like what the game does if you stay split up and head in vastly different directions and start triggering vastly different moments. I will tell you, it will work fine except for the fact other than you will be running a split party, which is fucking super weak. A split party is like splitting the party into is less than half as strong as a party. And you each cannot get your own group of four to replace because two are here.
Starting point is 01:26:10 Two there. The game would fall apart. So the game would just burn. Right. So it's balanced for you to be fighting as four people at the same place at the same time. So that's that that's about it. Okay. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:26:22 Yeah. The game assumes you have four people in every single encounter. Never. Mm-hmm. Yeah, so, and I remember that when we split up, everyone was like, never split, you know, that's how things go wrong.
Starting point is 01:26:36 And yeah, like we had that little, that little again, the content whole moment. But just as for the sake of curiosity and how this game is built, I am just, I guess, like I'm wondering if like story events can happen. Oh, totally. You know, absolutely. Where you just never meet up ever. And, okay, not never meet up ever. There's things that are going to just hard stop you, not in terms of like story or mandated, but like you will not be able to deal with.
Starting point is 01:27:09 I mean, if you're really fantastic and you're really lucky, sure, but like one person is not gonna be able to beat some of the bosses. Right. So like it's not that happen. So player one can go to village A and start solving village A's problems. While player two goes to village B and solves B's problems, but the threats are just going to overwhelm you. It's not going to be about the game itself forcing both people to be in the same place
Starting point is 01:27:35 at the same time. Yeah, the reality of like the split screen, the most useful thing seems to be searching rooms, covering rooms, going to town, clearing out your bullshit, picking up shit, finishing off quests, et cetera, not so much, I'm gonna go north until something stops me. Right, now if we were to like, you know, throw the meme out for a second and create two super god characters
Starting point is 01:28:04 that were incredibly strong, that can handle any threat the game throws at them. Right? What would happen if they were to proceed as far as they could then the event the events would trigger as they would trigger you would hit the second act and then when somebody hits the second act wall it would go fucking gather your party. Yeah. Okay. You can't load another map up and go to a different place. I think it's the same going into the underdark. It would like you would, if you were to hit the load screen, it would either force you to group back up
Starting point is 01:28:34 or it would force the group back together upon load. I'm sure every long rest as well would kind of serve as a regrouper, you know, regardless. Yeah, it would. So, although you regrouper, you know, regardless. Yeah, it would. So, you can go to camp by yourself, which is a cool little detail. Oh, can you? Okay. Yeah. And co-op, in co-op, you're the, the companions approval rating will function independently. Um, function independently. So like, uh, like if Carlac, if you, you can grab Carlac with you and just run away and just do a bunch of shit that Carlac would like and steal those opportunities for Reggie to get approval up with Carlac or vice versa. Right. Now, relationship stuff aside, the conversations that Player 2 has with, let's say, so yeah,
Starting point is 01:29:29 Regis talking to Esteriada, he's in his party, I'm talking to Shart. The progression of, I guess, NPC conversation, non-romantic, is also unshared. I don't know. You know, okay. The reality of talking to your companions in a split screen thing is very strange. And you can only talk to the companions that are within your control. And I do not know how it works after you pull them from the party or put them back at camp or what have you. The advice from Larian, the specific advice from Larian is that if you're running a four player party, because they were getting the question like, well, how do you, how do you deal with the companions when you're playing four players?
Starting point is 01:30:18 And they were like, don't leave them a camp and talk to them on your single player run. Okay. Though, because player split screen makes this the most complicated and weird one of all it is it is very interesting and odd because yeah, like I mean, obviously the the the funniest outcome is when you like, yeah, whoever forgets for his dibs, you steal the relationship yadda, but I'm sure beyond that, just in terms of getting people's quests done and learning more about them and stuff, you know, there's also that.
Starting point is 01:30:49 I mean, there's that aspect. I feel like the way to do it is to like early on decide, okay, who is going to be your true boyfriend, girlfriend, right, forever, then lock them into your side of the split screen and then own them forever. Now that's totally fine as well. Of course, we don't fully know. Like, we looked, well, we scrolled through the NPCs and just were like, okay, these are probably the people we're gonna be seeing, make sense. And you can judge a book by its cover, but I guess you'll have to catch their vibes and figure it out as usual
Starting point is 01:31:27 But one problem we were running we were running into for sure for sure is like Because the game is so free on both sides of the screen Yeah, you can completely ignore each other and um I had conversations that started where, like, Reggie was not, like, nearby to do the listening prompt. And he was, like, literally just, like,
Starting point is 01:31:53 not paying attention to it. And then he started a conversation I already had with another NPC, and then also went to a chest and grabbed it. And like, I'm like, okay, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, stop, stop, stop, we have to talk to each other because we're just in our own worlds right now. And that's like, we would communicate to the person sitting directly next to you.
Starting point is 01:32:11 Yes, and unfortunately, that's weird. It is, but like, we were running into problems where it's like, wait, did you go in here? Wait, what happened? And then, ah, you pressed that button, ah, fuck, right? Which, obviously, again, contents, contents. But having the same conversation, because we weren't paying attention to it, or such, is legitimately not great.
Starting point is 01:32:32 So it's like, oh, okay, we have to actually communicate properly and not get too lost in our own worlds here, because it allows you to do it, you know? And, yeah, well, I mean, I guess,, in, in, in some cases, too, you're looking at it like, well, if you walk up to this character or this area, this trigger, who you're picking to go into this moment makes a difference as well. So make sure you can, you know, you're choosing the best approach at all times, but, um, well, I mean, you don't always know who's the best approach
Starting point is 01:33:06 at all times. No, no, no, but it's like, okay, I want to stealth up to this situation. Let's grab someone who's great at stealth and make sure that they're the one in charge. And, you know, so on. So, yeah, communication is massively important if you are doing this.
Starting point is 01:33:17 So, I will remind you that in terms of being able to pay attention to conversations that characters not physically present for. If you were to say be talking to one of the druids and Reggie was, you know, fucking off stealing shit from somebody and he wanted to more readily pay attention to your conversation, he could like hit left trigger and then select your character
Starting point is 01:33:43 and then your conversation will come full screen. Yeah, like I said, he could listen in, but we did that for a couple of, for most moments, but there were a few where we didn't. Right, where I was having a good NPC conversation. Like I think if it seems major, we listen in, but like if it seems like a minor person is just kind of chatting up as in small way.
Starting point is 01:34:03 Yeah, and then you would have to relate to him, hey, some kids want me to steal something. So let's go steal it. Or so on. Or like I hit, I met the chipmunk, right? Or the squirrel, rather. Yeah. And it was like, oh, I had a new...
Starting point is 01:34:16 Oh, you mean Shadow Hearts girlfriend? Is it really? Oh, okay. The squirrel is the performance Capture director of the game and Shadow Hearts Girlfriend for realsies is the iso is that also not the squirrel that drops the nut after witnessing The horror is that a different squirrel that drops the nut. Oh, okay. That's different squirrel. All right fair enough So what hatched deal with that squirrel anyway? Well, I walked up to it and then did a quick save
Starting point is 01:34:48 and then rolled to see what would happen if you kicked it. And you vaporize it. Jesus fucking Christ. At which point I then learned, oh, this is what the Darkeridge would look like. Yes. Fuck. That is in some, that is.
Starting point is 01:35:04 A couple of those in the fire. Like, and yeah, yeah. And it's and that is a like way to take way to like disco elisium the moment, right? In your head, you're like, let's have a little Nelson kick the scroll moment, you know, that'll be funny. And then it's not funny at all. It's horrifying, you know but Yeah, then it was just like hey, what the fuck yeah get out of here you you know Wigum with the with the with the squirrel in his pants type of thing and then yeah
Starting point is 01:35:42 Reggie went back in with his talk to animals and then we got to actually meet I forgot his name, but You know he had the conversation and like and instead of the majesty of like oh my god You can understand me, you know scroll was like hey stay the fuck on your side of the turf, bro You're like oh okay, you know sure side of the turf bro. You're like, oh, okay, you know, sure. Um, at which point it became kind of wildly like, it's like, it's, it's wild that like, hey, I can be a class that communes with nature and can talk to you to animals. And just because I can do that doesn't mean that I'm automatically harmonious with them, I could use my ability to talk to animals to be like stay the fuck out of my way you piece of shit Just because you can talk to me. You're gonna be nice. That's which is incredible because it's like it's like you're in your head
Starting point is 01:36:35 You're like oh, yes. No, you you snow white you collect the birds and you feed the deer and you I can talk to animals And it's like not necessarily that. You know you can warn animals to stay the fuck out of your way or vice versa so yeah like I want to let you know that I'm a be eating you a little bit later how you feel about that you know I'm liking the wall at all actually. So that is that is an interesting amount of freedom you get by turning animals into full-on characters. Which is appreciated because I feel like yeah, any other video game would have a like... Perhaps a single line of... of like... Thought to read the animals brain.
Starting point is 01:37:17 No, they're full characters. You know? Or even just a like, food, hungry food, food, food. You know? No, they talk to you like they have active different accents than some of the people in their vicinity. Like they, I remember talking to a bear and he's like pissed off because some people
Starting point is 01:37:34 can understand him and some people can't. He's like, why? Interesting. You understand me? That guy understands me. How come this dude doesn't understand me? This is stupid. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:37:46 Yeah, that's fun. Yeah, and then you know, I went up and tried to put a plan together that involved shoving a brute off of the cliff and went up. Then that's where you're like, this is where you're like, oh, time to learn not about D&D, but about the game physics. So shove requires you to stand here if you want them to go flying that way. It does give you a little, it does give you a little, the little arrow, yeah, little arrow that shows, which is insanely helpful.
Starting point is 01:38:18 Yeah, but repositioning yourself might take up some of your movement. So it does kind of make sense that you can only push people like at a fucking straight angle. Yeah, yeah. But like play pool, be careful with it. Don't waste your dash or so getting into wrong positions. In some cases, the pathing was like shitty because I was like, hey, dash up here or,
Starting point is 01:38:40 and it's like, oh wait, no, if I just went up and jumped, it would have been better. You know, and so it's like, oh wait, no, if I just went up and jumped, it would have been better. You know, and so it's like, okay, a path thing is going to need to be like more, I'm not going to trust the system as much on that. I'm going to just kind of try to do it manually more often. And then I had that moment where down where the Withers crypt was walked into the trap room had everybody miss except for I think sharp detected it or so and it was like oh there's one there's two I see what's going on here oh it's the whole fucking room right and then I'm like okay so here's a moment perfecting perfect moment room like great I see what's going on, dangerous room, don't do it.
Starting point is 01:39:25 This is how we all get wiped. Now, let's use our tools to see if we can solve this problem. So I have ghost hand. Let me summon my stand and see what I can do with it. And then that was like, took a little bit extra long to figure out, OK, when you summon a ghost hand, what does that actually mean? And it's like, oh, you're summoning a character that has 3 HP that can move around.
Starting point is 01:39:48 It's not just an interact prompt from a distance. It's a little more involved than that. Now, will that ghost hand trigger a trap when it floats over it? If you wanted to, maybe. You know, and, and, um, and then there were a couple of moments where, um, it, I was like, oh, can the ghost hand do everything that you could do if you walked up to an object? And it's like, not necessarily.
Starting point is 01:40:09 There's a limit to it. It can move objects, it can flip switches. Yeah, it couldn't interact with the sarcophagus, for example. That's because of its trapped. Perhaps, perhaps. And I guess that's where I'm like, can I disarm with a ghost hand from a distance?
Starting point is 01:40:29 It was using a toolkint. Is really complicated. It's like one of those weird abilities that they had kind of trouble getting it to work correctly. Like you may notice that it's a can trip, but it has a short rest requirement, which is like the only one that does. Uh, and the reason why is because when you pull the Mage Hand out and it has three HP, it still counts as a target for enemies.
Starting point is 01:40:56 So if you could just create a new target for enemies every fucking turn, that's really sure. The most busted shit ever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, something to draw fire. Um, it's cool how duplicates also function that way by increasing your defense by making more. But yeah, so that was one of those things where I'm like, okay, there are going to be limitations to this. What are they? Because if you tell me it's a hand in my brain that tells me I can use it to lock pick from a distance,
Starting point is 01:41:21 I can use it to loot from a distance, I can use it to slap and ask from a distance right like whatever the fuck but what does that actually mean in video game I believe it's it's the sum totality of its actions is it can move it can scout it can flip levers it can move items like you can't you can't hold them but it can move them and it can shove I think okay. I think I can shove Now will it now we'll moving the item will that is that like does that include like Like okay opening a door. Yes stacking up some boxes. Yes, okay, but and shoving someone off a cliff Yeah, yeah, okay, all right
Starting point is 01:42:02 and shoving someone off a cliff. Yeah, that's okay. All right. Fair enough. So this is, yeah, this is kind of like where... Anyway, we didn't have any lock picks, so I kind of made them a little note, which shouts to the map being able to name your points of interest. That's very smart, very cool. It's going to come back to that. But yeah, I kind of am like looking at the hand going, um, this is where I'm gonna save and load,
Starting point is 01:42:31 and I guess like realize what the limitations are, and then go, oh, it can't solve this problem. Well, fuck it, you know. I mean, shit, I mean, like in my brain, if I was tabletopping, I'd be like, use my mage hand to tap that guy on the shoulder, make him turn around and then use the element of surprise. Yeah, well, table topping has 400 billion permutations of actions that are difficult to be codified in a video game. Mm-hmm. Um, like, mage hand works totally differently in, in tabletop because you can just have
Starting point is 01:43:06 like the Mage Hand to untie my shoes. Uh-huh. Okay, cool. We're all for it. Res. Here, it's, it has to have discrete actions to cast. Um, that's minor illusion people are saying. So it's like, okay, yeah, that, that type of distraction would have to come off of a
Starting point is 01:43:23 different dedicated spell for that. Yeah, minor illusion just usually spawns like a cat. Uh-huh. Um, yeah that that type of distraction would have to come off of a different dedicated spell for that Yeah, minor illusions just usually spawns like a cat mm-hmm um, you know Right, so like cats gotta know that shit um And then also like sometimes where you're like okay, here's um Frog girl and a stuck in a cage and it's like okay Can you path up to the platform and it's like mmm doesn't seem like it on the map?
Starting point is 01:43:41 You pass up to the platform and it's like, mmm, doesn't seem like it on the map. You can we shoot her down, maybe, but it feels like that might hurt her and then it's like, actually, no, she's fine. She can drop the problem, you know what? Wait, I'm sorry, did you just call myself frog girl? Or whatever, isn't that what, isn't that, isn't that, is that not a thing?
Starting point is 01:43:58 Aren't you all calling her frog girl? Sorry, that just, that just like, it hit, okay, yeah, I guess. All right. I see her called frog girl so fucking yeah, frothy Okay, so um I forgot it's been a long time since I said that my opinions have changed okay. I didn't invent it I learned I just I'm just adopting whatever the fuck y'all are doing
Starting point is 01:44:27 So there yeah like there's a little bit of just like a oh shit I hope this doesn't hurt her too much or make her fall and break her neck or something crazy like that and it turns out It's totally fine, you know, so That's another thing to him like all right. Let me let me not overthink it too hard But when I jumped from a height that was similar to that I took fall damage So that's kind of why I was thinking about that, you know Anyway, yeah Good stuff. Hmm, excuse me
Starting point is 01:45:00 Beyond that incredible. Yeah, it really it is I is. I just, uh, I just need to... It recently came out and described how like every single conversation of with every single character was performance captured. Like wow. Like not like the main cast, but like every single fucking NPC that you can talk to is performance captured. And you can, you can really feel it. Mm-hmm. I just uh I can feel the the there's the the moments then and I'll uh I guess preemptively I
Starting point is 01:45:34 guess like tell everybody that it's like there are there are times where I can feel when Reggie is like I am overwhelmed by what's happening with the choices in front of us right now. What are we doing? And I'm like, okay, let's take a second. Let's look at the rules and let's figure it out. We'll get there. And I think, and I think- I continually have that exact feeling,
Starting point is 01:45:59 even by myself. And the only thing I can do is like, I need to narrow down the list of things that I'm doing. Right, I need to narrow it. So like, act two dumps you in a new town. And the new town has like 40 NPCs in it. And it's the whole, and I'm like, I'm gonna look in every room,
Starting point is 01:46:18 and I'm gonna talk to every person in every room in the order that I go in, and then I'm gonna go around the outside of the house and see if there's anything to, and the grid shit is the only way to actually fucking do. Yeah, no, that's it. And if it seems obvious what the thing should be because you're familiar, you're just...
Starting point is 01:46:45 you're gonna have to think outside your brain for a minute and look at it with fresh eyes, you know. Um... Alright, real quickly. Hey, we're about to talk about some spoilers for FF16 for the fourth icon. So, if you want to tune out for this, you should do so. Shoutouts to Hugo Kupka. Shoutouts to the Cuck made of stone. That's brutal shout out shout out to fucking just NTRing yourself into a pile of cement dust bro
Starting point is 01:47:35 No good shit DomEekian Republic area, having fun with that and the the the block as well. But it is interesting because I'm kind of like I like like the obviously titanic block is the fucking defensive options I want and I love having the parry. But when I'm walking around, I kind of you kind of want walking around Garuda you want walking around snatch You know just mm-hmm. It's a it feels like More more of a utility for things for like little birds and shitter is flying around and whatnot like you get the fuck down here You know and then we're when we're when the fight we go over to it. So um oh Yeah, okay, I'm looking at your father right now. Yeah, you he's he is done. He is very done
Starting point is 01:48:30 Shout out to Soakin on the fucking hitting that Revengeance ass like devil may cry three specifically lock and load ass energy on the music That is Titan. Like, there are two different Titan themes in 14 and this is the third one. It's like, it's like very much when I started to listen to it and go on to the fight. Yeah, I'm gonna fight that Titan again. Okay, okay. Like bow down over a dweller. Solidus was mentioning that, yeah,
Starting point is 01:49:10 like, you know, this is a referential to the previous stuff that was also pretty good. Like, it was so referential that at some point, I kept asking where Titan's little RC car was, a reference that made most of the audience watching my show totally baffled, because Titan in 14 at some point gets into a little RC car and drives around and causes earthquakes at you. Awesome.
Starting point is 01:49:41 And if that, like if it sounds stupid, that's because your character actually has brain damage and can't remember the original Titan fight. So don't worry about that. Point of that point is, yeah, that fight's bombastic as fuck. So I'm actually curious about an element of this. Because of the way 14 works, you are fighting with a room full of your crew. You got your boys and then that's the big boss. That's right.
Starting point is 01:50:11 Like how does it handle scale or rather does it ever try to scale up in a way that let's Does it ever try to scale up in a way that, let's say, the size of Titan in this thing, right, Titan lost his scales fucking crazy. Yeah. Now, I can't imagine a room full of a raid trying to do the floor dodge pattern things would make a ton of sense if they had an infinite desert to play in, right? So you need an arena, which requires a limited space, which means the size of the boss itself must therefore be kind of limited to a degree. So there is a really good example of this, actually with Titan himself.
Starting point is 01:50:58 Okay, so I'm going to send Wollia screenshot of Titan Hard from FF14 or Elmery Born. This is how big Titan is. He is the 10 meters tall. Yeah, that looks like a FF14 box. Yeah. So then there is the herator of crags Titan, which let me get a fucking screenshot of that is
Starting point is 01:51:27 approximately the same size in a later part of FFF 14. Someone bigger. That's the shadow bringers version of Titan. Okay. And then I would look up Titans. Let me get a photo of Big Titan. And then can I get a photo of Big Titan? There we go.
Starting point is 01:51:55 There's a, okay, there we go. There is a version of that fight in which he becomes much larger. Okay. Because, and in fact, he's extremely huge compared to the thing. Yeah. But the boss's real body is actually the targeting ring in the middle. So that's what you're actually interacting with. And then because of that, you can have bosses become a thousand feet tall or completely envelop the arena on the sides, as long as it gives you this nice little circle to go like this is where you will actually be. The function is you're swinging at this little corner over here of the platform.
Starting point is 01:52:39 Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, because I'm like thinking about how you know, how you have again, the bosses I've seen where you have a full circle of dodging and action around them. And then I'm looking at what I just did, which is fight a mountain. Like that was a mountain. You know, what I, like for example, in the near Otamata raid,
Starting point is 01:53:01 you saw a boss fight against angles. Mm hmm. At his real side. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. near Automata raid, you saw a boss fight against Engels. At his real size. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right. And it's and the answer is you have a fucking targeting ring take up like the half of the fucking arena and just have the boss exist as his big thing off the platform. Okay, that makes sense. Yeah. So that that was a nice remix I suppose to the expected mega-manning that you're going through right now. You know, I beg again, he's big or her, but I yes, but I also appreciate Rest I I definitely appreciate that it's like you know, hey go quick man go kill him and take his power Hey, bubble man go kill him and take his power and then the games like
Starting point is 01:53:56 You know like Maybe not so linear. Maybe we fuck things up a little bit and move things around and keep you on your toes really him for what really? Actually, in this case it would be spark mandrel spark mandrel for really As the third rock really You Now that you've beaten the Titan I have like you you have now okay okay you remember I said you have now to gun the game no no no no you remember you remember hearing people talk about like you FF14 takes a lot of
Starting point is 01:54:37 good particularly or I'm reborn right mm-hmm beating Ramu, sorry, doing the Ramu stuff with Typhon and all that, right? Typhoon, right? And then doing all the stuff between that and getting to Titan, right? Remember fighting Hugo and then having to go to Dalmekia and fucking do all those errands for the town and all that shit. And then you get to fight Titan as a bit. That is FF14's like exact pacing. Is giant fucking incredible, cool last thing?
Starting point is 01:55:17 News, oh. Three, four hours of busy work. Okay, okay. And the level of Vittriol that people are gonna direct towards any particular sequence is how busy is that busy work Right so and the funniest thing is Titan is always the recipient of the worst pre-fight shit So like the tight the Titan quest in 14 to get to fight Titan is about getting like cheese and grapes for some rich guy.
Starting point is 01:55:52 It's terrible. It's the worst part of the whole game. Okay. Cause busy work that is teaching you about the level of racism present in the world feels very educational. You know, not the same as like, jump it into the black market. You got to figure out what makes a good knife. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:56:16 Puts it around. Yeah. But hey, Uncle is cool. Shout out to Uncle. He's great. I'm enjoying him. I love him. I'm enjoying Byron Yeah, so my favorite characters in that game. He's super Yeah, so the and I guess it's now like it's like okay hat when you
Starting point is 01:56:39 The the the it feels like the money is now just being pro like proud souls like I'm refunding and Just grabbing this put this over here get that over there and like you can fuck up your own like brain like Formed habit on your controls You know, so you got to be real careful with that when you switch things up or I Or so I had a like so I switched out like by the end of the game I was using a
Starting point is 01:57:10 fucking Bahamut and Odin and I want to say Titan and what that meant was I was switching them a lot no it was Bahamut Odin and Rumu right so I switched them a lot. I had Phoenix and Geruda and I, sorry, Phoenix, Geruda and Titan for a long time, like the demo, and then I would switch this one out and this one, and every time I did that, was a horrible fucked up learning curve. Mm-hmm. Was like, I remember switching Geruda off
Starting point is 01:57:41 was the worst one, because I would like go to grab someone and instead I'm doing like the fucking lightning charge. Oh God. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, with a circle button exactly exactly. Yeah. I'm I'm Forseeing I'm for seeing like Basically just using them as containers and going like the first I the first icon will be my damage and like repetitious hits. The second will be my counters and the third will be my supers and like that's it. Like you are-
Starting point is 01:58:14 Yeah, he's the miscontainer. You are now a folder point for my supers that I was the two supers that I want, you know. What if you instead put six supers? Yay video game sure. I'm sure there's a this. Can I play now? No, all right. Well, I feel like like the game could have solved that by not giving you as many ability points Because like getting all six supers is really expensive Well, I would even just go as far as to say, like I think supers should have replaced maybe your semi-priming.
Starting point is 01:58:52 I have a different thing and I brought this up during my playthrough and most of Chad agreed with me. And it was, I don't think you should be able to equip supers to your buttons at all. I think supers should, you should have been able to get one super per icon, and it should have been hold right trigger and hit circle.
Starting point is 01:59:12 Okay, I mean, sure. And then I would have gone into fights with three supers instead of six. I would have said make them really good and then pick one to replace your semi-prime ability. Yeah. Or have it take a bar. Yes, yes, yes, take a bar.
Starting point is 01:59:35 Yeah, yeah, there you go. That works too. It's strange, because I got, man, dude, you just blow all six at once at the first five seconds of the fight. And free. Yeah. And then just wait for them to recharge because the thing you're fighting is probably dead. That's a lot of damage.
Starting point is 01:59:54 Well, we will see. I will get it to 16 coming out with a new patch and the near I think it's already out. After I've beaten the game that lets you change the appearance of your weapon, something that I was annoyed by, the whole game. Hey, hey, like the goofy purple, weird sword that looks like cosplay shit hanging off your back. You want to make it look better in the cutscenes?
Starting point is 02:00:18 Well, now you can. It's so weird. Dude, I'm getting that. The weapons are linear upgrades. Like, they're always just better than the last one Mm-hmm, and so I'm like why do these even look different if I can't just change the appearance because like I don't I don't think the final Sword is the good best looking sword I again I was immediately bothered by one of the ones we had in between the last one. Yeah, so you know, like shout outs to the delay through once again coming through, patching
Starting point is 02:00:50 it while we go. It also allows me to go through World Tour like an Injecturdle or whatever the fuck is going on, you know, like, oh my god. When the game changes as I play it, I don't mind that. And there's also two DLC packs confirmed as well as the PC version in development, so Baldur's Gate has been changing very significantly as I've been playing it and it's fascinating like you'll go through the patch notes and it's like 1200 bug fixes And like the patch notes for Baldur's Gate have spoiler tags Which is like really appreciated like that's very nice
Starting point is 02:01:23 which is like really appreciated. Like that's very nice. Like they're adding features to the fucking game now in the patch notes. It's wild. Yeah, so that's all that continues. I also went to an aforementioned street fighter six tournament this weekend. Did you win?
Starting point is 02:01:46 I got third. That's a win. I got top three. I entered two tournaments actually. I entered singles and I entered doubles. And in singles I got third. And in doubles we also got third. So, you know, there you go.
Starting point is 02:02:04 Third best. most people suck Yeah, it's it was it was quite fun. It's like as we're talking about the the dynamic of entering a 2v2 and you know Are you gonna carry your weights or are you gonna get carried and? You know let's just say Marissa's arms are a little bit tired after the You know, let's just say Marissa's arms are a little bit tired After the sets we had but I will We will we will let the man speak for himself Mm-hmm when we when we get the opportunity We are yeah, though shout out to the the new venue that the the air dashers have a K a the the mad crew
Starting point is 02:02:48 new mad and and so on. Got this. There's a spot in Chinatown now that they got set up. That's a really cool venue and dangerous because after tournaments you want to go eat and when Chinatown is right there, time to just get fat, it's over. Yeah. We did it, it's time to reward myself. Did I do something worthy of a reward? No.
Starting point is 02:03:15 Oh, shut up. No, I want a eternal monologue. Yeah, nope, here you go. I got my third place money. Let's go spend that on food. Third place gets desserts. Gotta spend on something. Yeah, shout out to Meow, Sir Meow, and Boo came out as well. Got to hang out and had a good time at the event.
Starting point is 02:03:38 So yeah, I'm thinking I'm gonna look into how to make this work, but I wanna make it out to, at least, I know I can't get to the weeklies because of my schedule, but I at least wanna go to the monthlies and get more games in. So I might be doing what a lot of Japanese FGC streamers do, and I'm thinking about just grabbing like a camera and like walking around the local with the camera on stream and just having you guys see the experience. And you're like, well, if you to know what it's like, this is what it is, you know, so that way I can do that. Yeah, it's nice.
Starting point is 02:04:11 Kills to birds with one stone get a chance to make some content while also, you know, playing and getting in the bracket and stuff. So figuring out the logistics of that, but I think it'll be fun, and I think you guys, uh, we'll enjoy that. So anyway, um, this week I am going to be, it's gonna be short. I'm heading out, uh, so we're gonna get Tuesday and Wednesday only, um, and then, well, those streams better be super good then. I'm gonna do my best. And, uh, we're gonna do... yeah, so it's just gonna be a short week. Gonna have two days and then we'll be back, of course, next week. So, um, yeah, I think what we're gonna do is jump back into bomb rush, uh, and then, um, we got some world tour to get through. I think I can, I think I can, you know, crush pat through that and a decent amount of time as well. I've made some progress
Starting point is 02:05:12 with like the characters off screen and stuff so we can just make moves and get through it. But there's a point in world tour where all of a sudden I just like fucking be lined like straight through every single fucking thing. Like you get to a point with your character where you're like no, I'm strong enough I could I could just do it. Mm-hmm But I also want to like Go on fake dates with with all my street fighter friends And I'm a little confused as to why when you were talking about World Tour you said we can crush Pat through that I said passed through that
Starting point is 02:05:48 No, you didn't No, you didn't I I literally please do not crush me. I I don't intend to that's not that's not one of my tags That's okay. I am aware that I am smaller but I am also far away I don't I don't have that tag that's not one of my interests thanks you can It's a wildly specific tag I mean they're out there man. No I Remember I didn't know you know, oh god god. No, no, no, no, no, we're gonna know fine fine. No
Starting point is 02:06:33 Those were those days I'm gonna go bathroom those gonna go those days were long ago All right, woolly versus on twitch woolly versus on YouTube come check us out for this week's stream and versus on YouTube, come check us out for this week's stream. And, um, yes, that'll be it. All right. He's got his heels ready to go. You knew, you knew where this was going. He knew where this was. Pfft.
Starting point is 02:06:56 Pfft. If you know what he's talking about, I mean, look, they found her. So, you know but PRP All right, I found out something cool about water. What's going on? So you know how we're like adults and we're supposed to keep hydrated and shit and it's like a whole thing So we have eight glasses of water, right?
Starting point is 02:07:22 16 glasses of water, but like every time I'm like, I got a hydrate, I end up just like pissing like crazy. And like the piss is like completely clear. And it's like, it looks like I'm overdoing it with the piss. Right? And like, so I'm like, looking around, I was like, oh, so what you're, so like your liver and your kidneys can only like handle
Starting point is 02:07:44 like so much liquid at a time. So like when it's supposed to be like eight glasses of water a day, that's supposed to be like for the whole day. Like, like a sip of water every 20 or 30 minutes. But that's not how I do things. So instead, I'll sit down in this podcast
Starting point is 02:08:12 and be like, oh, I gotta have my drinks. And so I'll drink like one big monster and like two of these. And then I have to pee all over because I just drank like four and a half liters of water. Mm-hmm. And then late and then I'll be like, well because I just drank like four and a half liters of water. Mm-hmm. And then late and then I'll be like, well, okay, I pissed too much.
Starting point is 02:08:28 So then I just won't drink water until 11 p.m. tonight. And then I'll be about to go to bed. I'm like, oh, I'm just, oh, God, I'm so, oh, and he watered and then I'll like gulp like four cups of water and like, oh, the good. Mm. But then I have to wake up in the night to pee. It's bullshit.
Starting point is 02:08:51 I just wanna drink all of my water in one day all at once and then just pee normal. Yeah. But no, I have to sip, ooh, a little sip here, a little sip here. Well look, I agree. It is bullshit that we have to drink here, a little sit here. Well, look, I agree. It is bullshit that we have to drink 32 glasses of water per day. It's kind of insane. It does feel like that.
Starting point is 02:09:11 I mean, I really just, you know, I wish they could relax with that. And, you know, not all bladders are made equal. I got to go to the bathroom every now and then, and I've, you know, there was a time when I was going nuts with the water and you saw me having to go constantly earlier in the program. Meanwhile like fucking Reggie literally just never cracks the seal ever it's weird actually. But you know I've come to just learned that like hey two of these over the course of the day and you're good, right? All right. So just mentally, as long as you refill this and get down, get it down, you're fine. So I have to say, there, I just saw a piece of very common sense
Starting point is 02:09:56 that was in the chat and it was just drink when you're thirsty. And I think that is a really funny piece of advice because I followed that for a while and what ended up happening was I would have one glass of water a day. It doesn't work. Right before I went to bed. No, that advice is terrible and it doesn't work
Starting point is 02:10:21 and I can tell you with somebody who's just reset their entire internal craving engine. Why? You can heavily affect how thirsty you are based on what your eating habits are. You can eat things that make you want more water or you can eat things that make you feel you don't need any at all. If you're dry and dehydrated and you do things that make you want it, you're gonna think about it more.
Starting point is 02:10:47 But you can also eat in such a way where you can exactly like feel like you never need any water. So you cannot trust actually at all when you feel thirsty. You have to make the other one. The other one is like, like only eat when you're hungry. It's like, when I was single and had nothing going on, I would only eat when you're hungry. It's like when I was single and had nothing going on I would only eat when I was hungry and what that led to was one
Starting point is 02:11:10 fucked up big meal a day Again, maybe stupid terrible advice because when you're hungry is a feeling you have but that feeling can be influenced by what you're doing and it can be influenced by context that you set up. So for example, if you're used to eating dinner while you watch something on Netflix, next time you sit down to watch Netflix, even if you're not necessarily hungry,
Starting point is 02:11:37 you're gonna feel like, oh, but I should be eating something right now. And that can kind of trick you into a false sense of hunger. Like, your mind can fuck with the thing, the craving, the desire to eat and drink. So only eat what your body tells you is a horrible advice. Here's the thing though. I feel like I'm actually like,
Starting point is 02:11:55 the first of all, before we continue, I saw someone in the chat yell out snake meal. Snake meal is the funniest thing I've ever discovered in my life. Woman putting out videos about how she loves snake meal. Snake meal is the funniest thing I've ever discovered in my life. A woman putting out videos about how she loves snake meal and it's like, what snake meal? Oh, she would just have three all of her daily meals in one meal and eat it like a snake. And then she told her doctor about snake meal and her doctor does not like snake meal. And that phrase, my doctor does not like snake meal is like burned in. It makes me laugh every time. Okay, well, there's another term And that phrase, my doctor does not like snake meal, is like burned in, it makes me laugh every time.
Starting point is 02:12:28 Okay, well, there's another term for it, it's called oh bad, one meal a day. And I do know somebody who managed to lose a lot of weight on it and get healthy, but they had to, it's dangerous if you don't do it properly. Because- So I talk to like Paige about this, like Paige gets hungry and she wants to eat food and then she'll eat food and then she won't be hungry for a while and then she'll get hungry again.
Starting point is 02:12:50 Right? Apparently that's how that's supposed to work. Um, I don't, like apparently you are supposed to feel hunger over time. Um, I've never felt kind of hungry in my life. Going to the bathroom, eating and drinking and sleep are all the same. You're either completely fine and feel nothing at all. Or you're about to fall down tired, or you're about to die of thirst, or you're about to shit your pants, or you're starving to death. There's no in between. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:21 Ever. It's never been an in between emotion in my life. I will feel nothing and then hit the stop button on the stream, There's no in between. Yeah, ever. It's never been an in between emotion in my life. I will feel nothing and then hit the stop button on the stream and then suddenly all the damage sets in. It caches out and you're like, I am dying if I don't eat right now. That went away with the shake reset thing, et cetera.
Starting point is 02:13:40 And you just, because your body's just used to the rhythm that you give it, you know. You can change that. It sucks. The process is not fun. But like, um, the, doing the shake thing I did, did turn that off and make it like, oh, the gradual feeling that you need some energy right now is coming. What do you want to do about it? You know, you can tell and then you can make it kind of go a little bit up and then a little bit down. Um, it doesn't have to be this all or nothing. Like I have to like at some one or two times a day, I have to like really sit and like be like and touch my something like.
Starting point is 02:14:18 If I go to the bathroom right now, will poop happen? And most of the time, I don't know, and this leads to like, like probably two or three times a week, me going to the bathroom and being like, it wasn't time. It wasn't time. It wasn't time. It wasn't time. Um, but then I will just be walking through the house and Paige is seeing this and she will like roll her eyes because she hates it. I will just go, uh-oh. And that means it's time and that means I have 120 seconds to get to the bathroom before I shit myself
Starting point is 02:15:08 And then it's time. Yeah, that's no good That's a liability and also what if you are not a hundred and twenty seconds from a bathroom Well, I can actually hold it for way longer, but it feels like I'm gonna poop. Okay. Well Yeah, it's like sonic drowning gonna poop. Okay, well. Yeah. It's like Sonic Drowning Music, yeah! Yeah, yeah. Shoutouts to Latchkey in Contents. Yeah. As you approach your door.
Starting point is 02:15:33 So yeah, that's why I'm always afraid of pooping my pants because like every poop is an emergency. Like 80 or 90% of the times I go bathroom, it's an emergency Like I guess people just wake up in the morning and go all it's time for bathroom now and then go bathroom But like no, it's like a it's like a fear. It's like a constant fear Okay, well This is what potty training is for.
Starting point is 02:16:06 No potty training so you don't shit on the floor like an animal. These are connected thematically. These are in the same wheelhouse. One is an ailment that is caused by the other, you know, um, okay, well, in any case, um, anyway, just drink when you're thirsty, please. What's going on? Let's see, uh, Baldur Skate, Armored Corps, the usual, the things that we just talked about while you were, you're diving in on them. Starfield came out. Mm-hmm. Now before I could talk about Starfield, I should via the FTC disclosure rules and my own dignity. Explain that I got the game for free. I got
Starting point is 02:16:57 early access for free and later this week they're going to pay me two stream Starfield. So, full disclosure, prior to opinions, hashtag technically sponsored. I don't think that I'm influenced by the money dollars, but I mean, that's for you to decide. Starfield's really good. I really like Starfield. It is hilarious to play Starfield right after Baldur's Gate. They could not be
Starting point is 02:17:28 further apart in what they want to do. The freedom versus the chains and shackles. No, it's what they've decided freedom means. So Baldur's Gate 3 says, So Baldur's Gate 3 says, here is the world and here are the characters and you will have the freedom to do any of these things to any of these characters. And you can silence, you can dart and bobo bobo. Starfield does not think that freedom means actions. Starfield says that freedom means space and not like outer space like literal physical location space
Starting point is 02:18:11 It is like a new man's eyes space What's that no man's guy Space big freedom big space travel something like that more like More like Skyrim with more provinces. Sure. If that makes sense space room It's less than like what are your interactions with people talk to them persuade them pickpocket them shoot them Where can you do that literally as far as the eye can see in every direction including the sky Um Like the all the all the dis all the description of like what is starfield and what how does it work?
Starting point is 02:19:01 Did if you have played a Bethesda game in your life? You know how starfield will work because it is a Bethesda game. I feel like that is its own genre. Is Bethesda? I think the only Bethesda games I have ever played are Doom and High Fire Rush. No, by technicality. By technicality. Yeah. But yeah, like do I want, do you want to wander a big expanse and find stuff and talk to people and get things and fill up your inventory and explore and see a thing and customize your spaceship etc. Instead of your house
Starting point is 02:19:48 it's now your spaceship. Like it's a Bethesda game and it's a solid, well-controlling, well-playing, visually good-looking, interesting Bethesda game. That is exactly what it is. Bethesda game that is exactly what it is It is it is so much a Bethesda game That I am now finding out that there is There's a gameplay feature from earlier Bethesda games that unlocks with the main story that I Found out about and was like of course course that is there. Of course that is there. It was in the earlier ones, why wouldn't it be there? I am having a blast with that game late at night, putting the baby to sleep on my chest and just wandering around. Does any part of it, besides Skyrim, feel like fallout?
Starting point is 02:20:50 Yeah, it feels just like fallout. Yeah, okay. You should gun. Okay. You shoot, you shoot gun. Also, I will say that it is, like I ran into a bug last night where like 20 NPCs crawled into my ship and just filled up my fucking ship. And then when we went somewhere, the quest
Starting point is 02:21:13 failed and then I had to push them down the ramp physically to get them off my ship. But it didn't actually cause me any problems. and that is the fourth bug in 23 hours that I've run into. I would say that the game is more stable right now than fallout for or Skyrim are right now with their unofficial bug fixed patches. Like it is the first of Bethesda's games that you play it and you're like, like every two or three or four hours you run into, oh that guy's facing through the wall. Or, oh that's weird, that texture didn't load in super good.
Starting point is 02:22:03 Like it works like a regular video game. I found Baldur's Gate 3 by comparison to actually be significantly bugger in terms of like important shit breaking or things kind of falling apart. But because of what you're aiming for, it's kind of like you can get it, there's gonna be parts that fall apart because of how much you can do, right?
Starting point is 02:22:29 A whole lot of second I See in the chat a gentleman saying okay pat is just crazy and lying now all of my Baldur's gate footage is on my channel You can see bugs happening my character portrait in the game right now is naked because I'm an oath breaker paladin and they never fix that. That being said, of course, one is a game with tons of early access as well and the other is just a quadruple A release within their own internal testing. So, um, I, if I, if I may, I think Starfield is the first game we've talked about this year. Yeah. That I can, that I'm looking at and I can just say,
Starting point is 02:23:24 Yeah, that I can that I'm looking at and I'm can just say They say it for me Well, I mean if like I'm That game is for already know it's for them because they played Skyrim or yeah, I'm just not interested in Any of it and if I the parts that I might be I Would be interested in doing it in other places. Like, if I want to get my space exploration going, I'd be curious. I want to go back to outer wilds
Starting point is 02:23:53 and deal with what I need to do in that, or I want to go to, you know, even, well, no, no man's sky, I tried it, I'm good, I don't need to, but I just, I'm just not interested in anything I've seen. And like, there's so much good shit going on right now and there's so much like oh yeah pulling our Detention that I'm just I like yeah that can come and go to I'm fine without you know I Love I absolutely adore wandering around the the kinds of spaces that Bethesda has made. So I, I love that shit. Um,
Starting point is 02:24:28 but like it's, like, it's, it is one of their games. It's exact like, Bethesda Games should actually be called Bethesda Game colon and then the fucking setting that it takes place in. Kind of like Ubi Games. Yeah, like this is Bethesda Game 7, I think it's 7. But like that's what it should be called. Now I am curious about that in the sense that like, I can see how, you know, Assassin's Creed and Far Cry and all that, like kind of hit those same points. But my impression of something like Disonored
Starting point is 02:25:03 is pretty far from the Skyrim Oblivion fallout. This honor is made by Arcane. Oh, I'm sorry, are they just publishers? So when I say so you're thinking so here's the complicated thing. There's Bethesda publishing and then there's Bethesda Game Studios in Maryland. Okay, never mind, I'm stupid. So when I say a Bethesda game, I mean the creators of yes of Daggerfall, more wind oblivion, fallout three, fallout for Skyrim 76. No, 76 was Austin. And this like not the publisher. Yeah, I've never played any
Starting point is 02:25:40 of the games they've developed themselves. So I have zero mental connections to every time they make the same game. It improves zero mental connections to every of them except for. And they make the same game. It improves or doesn't improve in certain ways. And I like this one. It's very, it's, I played it the day came out for like eight, nine hours and like four of that was just pickpocketing and stealing every single thing I could get a hold of
Starting point is 02:26:03 to make money. And I very much enjoyed myself. The biggest complaint I can make about it. So not even the writing. The writing is very functional. It's fine. It's completely fine space RPG writing. It's the camera during dialogue. So Bethesda has had the same camera during dialogues and Skyrim, where they like zoom in on a character,
Starting point is 02:26:38 and they like, they become full frame, and they look right at you. You guys gotta comment down on the eye contact. Like the characters are fucking staring at you. They are staring at you. Like they kind of never break eye contact ever. And they are like locked to you the whole time. I was looking at Baldur's Gate 3 stuff earlier and Baldur's Gate 3 really solves a huge problem. First of all Baldur's Gate 3 is everybody's performance capture, so that's like a huge step up. But the
Starting point is 02:27:18 second thing is that the characters in Baldur's Gate 3 never look straight at the camera ever. that characters in Baldur's Gate 3 never look straight at the camera ever. Ever. Yeah, I guess they're looking at your character, always looking at your character who is off-screen, but slightly offset. What would you say so far is the biggest appeal of the setting. I like to wander around in space. I stole a guy's ship. I killed him and I took his ship and then I took it back to the thing. And then I made it my new ship and then I sold my old ship and then I put a cargo thing on the side of the ship so I could get
Starting point is 02:27:55 more rocks in it. Because as someone who's never gone into them, I will say that like, well, I am still curious about fallout because everyone says it's really good. But even if they didn't, the part where it's like, oh, you come up out of a bunker and the world is all fucked post-apocalyptic. How crazy is it going to be? Is like an interesting sort of like timeline setting, put the pieces in place and let the dominoes fall? I would like to explore a big place. Yeah. And there's no bigger place than space. Elder Scrolls, Oblivion and Skyrim and such, have, you know, it seems as if they're, you know,
Starting point is 02:28:34 more or less scratching that same itch, but it is like, here's a large fantasy setting and a bunch of races and dragons hanging out and stuff that you can, you can go fantasy your way through and the setting itself is a fantasy setting Which if you're down for them that that serves its purpose And yeah, I guess I'm kind of curious here if there's There's space but like if there's any other things that are like
Starting point is 02:28:57 Happening that are interested. So the the appeal the politics or the the factions or the The story or any sort of oh yeah no plenty but like the appeal of Bethesda games is wandering around like and and like you would do a describe skyrim or fall out for or more like it's it's wandering around a location so that is the appeal in my brain as an outsider if you my I I imagine that That appeal Place out in different ways, right? So in fallout my brain imagines you wander around and then you run into a bunch of cannibals
Starting point is 02:29:34 And you have to deal with whatever the fuck that means in a fucked up melting nuclear wasteland city in Skyrim I imagine you wander into some kind of cult and then it turns out that there is a horrible thing where they've been kidnapping people from the nearby town and you have to deal with that cult in this cave or whatever. What would be the Starfield equivalent of what you find when you wander. I mean, you, okay, so what do I find on wander? In the open world, you find Flora Fonda resources, areas to build a little play, base in the
Starting point is 02:30:17 generalized, like generated thing, you would find combat encounters that you can loot, etc., you would find little side quests that are relatively menial. You can also find larger settlements in which all the RPG quests that you would expect to encounter are there. So one of the things that happened in the main city when I was playing off camera was that I broke into an ATM machine, look, a cot. And then I got a message from one of the police officers that I had been doing quests for, little odd jobs.
Starting point is 02:30:49 And I reported to him at which point he said that I couldn't pay my bounty off. Instead, I was being transferred to a military ship at which point I was then interrogated and forced to become a double agent to investigate a bunch of pirates. Okay. Like an RPG. and forced to become a double agent to investigate a bunch of pirates. Okay. Like an RPG. Okay.
Starting point is 02:31:12 Like... Uh... Like an open-world role-playing game. Have you played an open-world role-playing game? Open-world role-playing game? Can you name a few? Uh... Witcher are Skyrim New Vegas two worlds no
Starting point is 02:31:35 Not none of them. Okay. Yeah I guess you haven't nope, but um, yeah, but like I said- All I want are two? But I do get the, um, I do- It's just strange, because you asked me a question like, well, what kind of things can happen? I'm like the kinds of quests you would do in an open-world RPG where any quest that the writer has created for you.
Starting point is 02:32:00 I ask as an outsider. Did you play Cyberpunk? Uh, no, not yet. Did you play Red Dead Redemption? Nope. Okay. Did, uh, man, yeah, I got it though, you know, that's the, uh, this is, this is kind of like where I'm like the, again, I'm, I'm giving the the outsider's
Starting point is 02:32:25 impression of a lot of this stuff. Even a QA never. Part of me. Even a QA never. Oh yeah, I've QAed some stuff. You play Deus Ex human revolution is what you fucking play. I've QAed some I've QAed a bunch of stuff. Like not all of it top to bottom certainly but yeah I've had the, the, the, some of the experience, but you played Deus Ex human revolution. I know that for a fact. I've QAed, I've QAed a bunch of that. Yes. This specifically the, the, the, the, limited edition that came out after that. Okay. Deus Ex Human Revolution is the equivalent of, like, Detroit in human revolution is equivalent
Starting point is 02:33:10 to the new Atlantis area in Starfield. Yeah. So am I wrong for asking a question about something I'm unfamiliar with? Is that a problem? No, it's a little, I don't know how. Why are you like this? What do you mean?
Starting point is 02:33:25 When I'm asking how this is? No, it's just slightly difficult with no common ground. Okay. Yeah, so that's why. So that's why I do the shittiness of video game genres. Actual comparison is like the primary form of discussion. Because I'm thinking of like, well, like I said, I gave the examples of like my Skyrim fake
Starting point is 02:33:45 thought and my fallout kind of, you know, like it's also like genuinely strange to encounter somebody who has never played Skyrim for 10 minutes. Fair enough. That is weird. But I also just, I don't play what I'm not really interested in and I mean we also have a fan base that is You know fractured amongst your interests and what you guys are super into versus a bit of a gap into what I'm interested in right like There's a whole lot of carryover with like Survival horror that I had no interest in whatsoever for a long time and
Starting point is 02:34:23 that I had no interest in whatsoever for a long time. And there's a bridge between what was established way back years ago with what you guys were into. And what I went into, you know. You know how in Street Fighter, there's an open world RPG thing. There's a no-one to Ken, and Ken will be like, hey dude, you gotta get me this hat. And then you'll go get theone to Ken. You cannot be like, hey dude, you got to get me this hat. Okay.
Starting point is 02:34:46 And then you'll go get the hat for Ken. Yes. And then there'll be a thing that stops you. And you go back to Ken. Open the world. Give him the hat. I've played over the world game certainly. I'm asking, I suppose, for a point like because the setting, right?
Starting point is 02:35:02 And the main thing that's, the main reason why I'm not super into And or interested is because I don't see anything that I really want to do in the setting per se Exploration can be fun, but I suppose I'm thinking about like where I want to explore and what I'm going to discover is what I'm curious about So my question is more like I understand that exploring and coming across unknown adventures is cool The things that I described about those two games are things that I'm like oh it'd be fun to find out about this cannibal cult or whatever The fuck is going on over here. I'm on a countdown to cannibals in this game. There's always a fucking cannibal cult. I don't know What about the space setting so far based on the trailers would capture my attention
Starting point is 02:35:48 or draw me towards it. I know that like, oh, there's a bunch of weirdo snake cultists as a bunch of libertarians out in space. So if I'm just describing a weird space monster, never mind gameplay. Because never mind gameplay, if I'm just describing settings in a mass effect type setting,
Starting point is 02:36:03 I know I'd wanna go check out a planet because there's some aliens on it that I wanna know how they work. And there's some dynamics about those aliens and their race and the history of them. That's fun to learn about. Yeah, so aliens in Starfield are exclusively animal life. Okay.
Starting point is 02:36:20 There's no walk and talk and space man. Yeah, I didn't see anything like that in the trailers. Yeah, so I'm just kind of looking, I'm just kind of looking, asking I guess like, I wonder if there's anything that I would find interesting about what you discover when you're out there, because it doesn't seem like it, but I don't want to judge a book by its cover. Yeah, I mean, if you don't, if you don't find space like an interesting setting, then... No, space definitely is interesting there's all other games where you're traversing space I suppose and I
Starting point is 02:36:53 Think what you find in that space will make or break the you find Bethesda Game stop. I don't know how to explain it any I Bethesda games are not game stuff. I don't know how to explain it any. I I Bethesda games are not that popular, but they are like Skyrim is probably the most rep like popular slash resold repackaged game in the way. I feel like I'm trying to explain like baseball to you. No, I've never seen a baseball game. I kind of, I think I get it. The, as I mentioned with Outer Wilds, there's one version of space exploration that like leads to fucking awesome mystery and puzzle to discover and piece together the what's happening in that world, or the other version of space exploration, which is go meet a brand new race and talk to them and
Starting point is 02:37:44 figure out their history. There's different things that are, you know, you can pepper your space with to, I guess, draw me in. So I'm, yeah, just curious about like what some examples are. So yeah, now the appeal is Bethesda's game loop and wandering gameplay loop as somebody in the chat clearly described it was. Bethesda games are where you wander in a random direction for 15 minutes and then something weird happens.
Starting point is 02:38:08 Okay. That's it for me. If you want to check out more stuff, you can go down to Twitch.tv slash past airs at. It's going to be Armored Core, Baldur's Gate and Starfield this week. Okay. or Baldur's Gate in Starfield this week. Okay. Let's just take a quick word from our sponsors. I gotta take a quick break. I gotta help the dog go outside.
Starting point is 02:38:34 Be our beer. Bro, I got some Doritos while I was helping the dog pee. I ran in and stole some Doritos. Damn, actually wild. That's gamer fuel, dude. I haven't had nothing. While I was while I was helping the dog pee I ran in and stole some Doritos damn I ate it wild That's gamer fuel dude. I haven't had Like people mock Doritos. It's really good Um, it's good for reason It it's it's it's sturdy
Starting point is 02:38:58 It doesn't change but I have to say that like when my eyes were opened to the misvicky's kettle Kettle good good. Oh, they're good. Misvicky's good. We're hitting another level We're hitting another tier with that shit that you can't come back from like you know I used to go buy a bag of chips every Sabbath at the end when the sun went down we would get a couple we get a five bucks from my grandma We'd run down the street and I'd get a drink and I'd get a five bucks from my grandma, we'd run down the street, and I'd get a drink, and I'd get a bag of chips, and we used to just grab like,
Starting point is 02:39:28 you know, we had some choices between some hostess bullshit, and some ruffles, and those were fine, you know, the sour cream and onions were nice, and then lays enter the picture, and you're like, oh, fuck, this is a different tasting chip, the barbecue was sweet tasting instead of just burn, and that was nice, and then you kind of step it up a little bit. Pringles too expensive can't spend the money on that get the fuck out of here. Doritos was a nice solid you know what
Starting point is 02:39:54 you're getting it's above a lot of the others but it is what it is. You know what I'm thinking out you know I think Doritos is to me. Mm-hmm. This is my Miss America speech. What does Doritos mean to you, Pan? Mm-hmm. Doritos fulfills the chip-shaped hole that shitty pizza does on the pizza side of the equation. Because like sometimes you're like, I would like shitty pizza right now. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 02:40:23 I want the shitty one though. The good, I want the good shitty pizza right now. I want the shitty one though. The good, I want the good shitty pizza. I get, yeah, right? The 99 cents slice. Doritos is the good shitty chips. Like yeah, I could get Miss Vicki sea salt chips and those are like excellent high quality chip. But what if I don't want that?
Starting point is 02:40:42 What if I just want to gorge myself on dust? Okay, I know that vibe. That's true. The good shitty pizza. Um, and whenever we have to go with grandma's choice, she would mama would get us sun chips, and that was a whole other galaxy. But when I want to fill myself with dust. Here's the thing, I realized. I like Dorito for that shit quality desire, but what hits it better for me is a ringelow. Why not just go ringelow? I've never had one.
Starting point is 02:41:16 Oh, you've had ringelows. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I have. Oh, you definitely know. Here. Wolley, I have not had a ringelow. I mean, Hey, chat, which is stranger that Wully never played Skyrim or that I have never had a wringolo?
Starting point is 02:41:30 Well, I'll tell you this. Believe it or not, I know a lot of human beings. Funny enough, most of the people I know, haven't played Skyrim. Isn't that why I- That's not true. You think that's true, but it's not. You're actually wrong. I don't think I don't think my uncle has played Skyrim.
Starting point is 02:41:49 No, no, no, holy if you if you include everyone you've met at Evo, no, you're actually dead wrong. No, people people that I'm saying people that I know. I'm the one that you know people that you talk to and learn their name. That guess what? You know them. they played Skyrim Also your aunt if there was one game that your uncle was likely to have played it was probably Skyrim No, I was as college duty or mad and probably
Starting point is 02:42:18 That Skyrim fits right in there FITS RIGHT IN THERE! Hahahaha! RIGHT IN- YOU CALL YOUR UNCLE! And you ask if you play- I B- HE HAS PLATE SKYRAM! Unless he's dead. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:42:33 Is he alive? Anyway, I just sent you a picture of a ringelow, and uh... They're pretty good. They're- He's never had that. They uh... They sell them at the- At most corner stores, and and their ring chips that are
Starting point is 02:42:47 They're tasty they kind of have a little A little bit of barbecue to them, but it's a very unique light flavor to it Humpty dumpty ringing it is way crazier that you have not played scarring that I have not eaten a ring below I have never even seen this. I used to work at a grocery store. What is this thing? I have never even seen this. I used to work at a grocery store. What is this thing? I mean you can continue to have that conversation if you want I can also I will I can also give more details like I have not played it by choice I made a conscious choice every time I decided to not play it It was not that happens dance thing. I didn't make a conscious choice about Ringelow.
Starting point is 02:43:26 No. Doesn't even look like a food. I took a look at Skyrim. In fact, I took a look at Oblivion. I took a look at all those games as a lot of the gamers are around were into them. And I decided I don't think I was interested. That's the choice that that's it.
Starting point is 02:43:42 Nope. I don't think I will. There's a wrinkle though. It's pretty tasty is what it is. I like them. And they scratch the same itch as the Dorito thing you're describing. They have the dust. They do have the dust.
Starting point is 02:44:00 They got the dust. That's the dust. There's also the, you know, there's like, there's like Cheetos that's the shit that gets way in the dust, you know, the dollars is unmanageable. The dollar store onion like your mouth is going to just like die in 48 hours if you don't rinse it out with like the hardest fucking alcohols. Like, you know that onion dollar store taste that just never goes away. After you've done eating that,
Starting point is 02:44:30 you're like, did you eat like Chester Cheetah? You look like you've fucking gorge on a creature made of dust. Yeah. A awful dust. It's quite extreme. Although, even though I will say that, like, I don't know why even to go back, but like, even with Skyrim, though,
Starting point is 02:44:54 I do think that there's stuff in the setting that I think is like, I get what's appealing there. I guess I'm looking for like, what's the writing doing in Starfield that is particularly cool. It's just space shit. Sorry. It's doing space shit. It's doing, oh no, we made a fucking mutant freak alien and it killed everyone in the base. Cool. Now you're trapped inside the base with it. Cool. It's, here's the robot facility where the robots have gone nuts. Here's one of the earlier quests I did off camera was I investigated
Starting point is 02:45:26 a fucking stolen ring report, but it was just a couple getting mad that they broke up and one of the guys wanted the engagement ring back. Okay, and then the quest was just going, yeah, no, it's not stolen. He's just they broke up because he fucked around and they won't give the ring back. Now that is an answer that I was looking for about 10 minutes ago that works out. Yeah I think if the I'm gonna go I Think if the the way the Like writers handle space is done well then space can be the coolest shit ever but it's it's It's got to be written in a way that's like compelling.
Starting point is 02:46:06 It's gotta be cool stuff going on, you know? I'm just sitting here looking at a list of most sold copies of games ever. And I'm looking down the list of ones that I don't know. Dude, this is not a war, this is not a dunk. No, I'm just like, I'm crazy and you won't admit it. I'm insane. No problem.
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Starting point is 02:59:30 volition, the developer of Saints Row, has shut down and red faction and red faction also. Not to mention dissent and free space. A bunch of old games, Dayton Back. Uh, they've been shut down by Embracer Group, uh, so they're part of that, that large purchase merger that occurred. And, uh, I saw someone posting a screenshot earlier that was on the walls of inside of a Saints Row game saying reboot is death. And it's like, oh boy, yikes. So, um, so it looks like Embracer Group bought, like a hundred different companies. Yeah, there was a means like they wanted to increase
Starting point is 03:00:16 the company's value or something for some kind of stock and they, or whatever. And I guess that didn't work because they're probably gonna to just start shutting down like half the shit they bought. Well, I think it's, yeah, I think it's a large purchase of a ton of companies that will then be measured against each other for value. So you shut a few over here, you bump a few over there, you add, you add,, but of course individually that means that
Starting point is 03:00:46 Places like this one that also that Saints Row reboot was fucking terrible Yeah Places like this one are on the The short end of the stick I Yeah, I don't know. I literally don't even remember anything about it. Like, I feel like I remember there was an announcement that St. Sire was coming back and I kind of...
Starting point is 03:01:14 It was a bunch of old people trying to write Gen Z. And it was like Nightmarish and cringe. Hmm. Um, right. nightmarish and cringe. Right. And then yeah, there was a, I did catch when that there was a like a knock on effect because there was a, there's a massive buyout that fell through with the Saudi group was it. Okay. And then that has led to them not having the money to do the things they're planning to see. Yeah, diata, it all, it all leads to cor leads to corporate business buyout, et cetera, and a major deal that
Starting point is 03:01:48 falls through means there's not enough money to go around that they thought they'd have, which means we got to start closing down a bunch of the studios. So, yeah. That is a studio going back to the mid-90s. So, bummer on that. I think I eagerly await the Kickstarter for Crimson Group and Jesus' column. Got it. Nailed it.
Starting point is 03:02:23 Excellent. Good joke, Pat, move on. I guess the question is, were any of the people on the New Saints row involved with the old ones and or was there a chance of them doing something like they did at the peak of it or was it kind of damned. You know, I don't know. All I know is it looked bad and then it came out and no one said even one good thing about it and I watched about 15 minutes and was like this looks like fucking trash.
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Starting point is 03:03:44 Just random Twitter video over here from Kyler Funk, Logon to cyber-rush cyber-funk Discord. Um, they've already figured out multiplayer modding in bomb-rush cyber-funk. That was fast! Immediately. So yeah, there's a bunch of
Starting point is 03:04:10 Rudy's doing some dancing and be boy and all together. So it's like fucking already there. I mean, I feel like I I don't know how big team Reptile is but assuming they're you know similar size to how this team that made Lithuolegan, Lithuoleg blaze like multiplayer is a massive endeavor that requires tons of money and and You know if Tekken can't figure it out Right so anyway right so anyway um no they've they've got a multiplayer mod and I'm curious to see how this is coming along but uh yeah it's literally been like a week that's that's that's that's crazy um I think it's uh yes not night on Twitter is Made it and is currently working on the development and Implaining to do more with it. So yo if you want to get your gang together and just fucking dance and skate and
Starting point is 03:05:14 Bike and skate and do whatever rip up the streets do it Do it lethal league was ten people. They can you kill cops in that game? In in Bob Ross cyber funk. Yeah Do it lethal league was ten people they can you kill cops in that game in In in Bob Ross cyber funk. Yeah, I Mean you you get them. I don't know if they're unalived But you definitely get them you get them good. I'm just curious you fuck them up Because I always think I always think back to you guys talking about Marqueco and And just like oh someone won't let me tag this wall throw them off a fucking building and kill them. Yeah, yeah
Starting point is 03:06:00 In this case you you kick them up and you spray them a bunch and then they get embarrassed and run back to the precinct You know that's mostly what happens. Yeah, Mark Eko was getting a little getting pretty extreme with it, but at the same time, they were mostly evil cops anyway. Yeah, mostly. So, you know, you're just carrying out justice. Shout out to Mom, or cyberpunk. They're really more than just, you know, they're just, you know, they're just, you know, they're just, uh, carrying out justice. Um, shout out to mom or cyberpunk.
Starting point is 03:06:29 There are really more games that have just like wildly disproportionate responses to the game's tone. I love that. I like, like, but that was always what was so insane about Jetset radio was you're skating around in the Shibuya terminal. The very first time you play the original Jetset Radio, you're skating around Shibuya terminal, you're, you're, skate, and then you tag stuff and everyone's like, going, ah, get out of here, you, and then you're having fun.
Starting point is 03:06:56 And then suddenly the cops show up. And then the big evil detective has a huge gun. And he starts shooting at you and then and then when you spray enough of them they roll in tanks that are now opening fire in a subway station platform where people innocent people were just standing like five minutes ago they're blowing the city up because they don't want you to spray paint you know so like yeah that tone is exactly what Bomberish is going for. And they definitely as well, like call out the fact that they're like,
Starting point is 03:07:30 oh, we have armed, we have armed, you know, gangsters rolling around, you know, so meet them with the equivalent force and you're holding a spray paint can, you know? Yeah, that's great. I love that. Um, did you watch the to the ackee trailer? I did. I did watch the ackee trailer and All I could see All I could see and I'm got somebody made a video about it which cracked me the fuck up When I watched that video my brain just autocompleted to like is that fucking My brain just autocompleted to like is that fucking chin get-sized fucking homogeneous crawl along the floor move? Oh chin chin get-sai yeah the KOF character
Starting point is 03:08:14 Like is that yeah Shins fucking kind of He's homogeneous kind of kind of it's it's actually It's it is a floor stance So it's a bit of that and it's also a bit of a doctor busconovitch from Tekken You know you have the little like super low profile hitboxed fucking that character is gonna make people so fucking mad Everyone that hated the blanket slide redirect that shit because here comes Aki. So yeah, we saw the original trailer revealing her little story, I guess
Starting point is 03:08:52 cutscene from World Tour and she was then shown off in the comic and we saw that she had some of the same poison abilities and she's obsessed with her master. So you know what's that gonna be? And then there's actually a short story I found out about earlier That was written that straight up tells you her origin story The cliff notes of it. Her master. What's her master's name again? Fong. Oh You mean ferocious Asian notorious gang. Yes That's correct the ferocious Asian notorious gang? Yes, that's correct. The ferocious Asian notorious gangster was rolling
Starting point is 03:09:30 through the streets in a post-street fighter world. The street fighter five were a setting. Oh, fantastic, just my mistake and uh... fantastic asian notorious gang f-a-n-g uh... as as as it were uh... and basically uh... there's a short story that more or less shows you like oh he's on the she's walking the streets and then like he gets propositions by a lady of the night
Starting point is 03:09:59 you know and uh... yeah so street walker comes up to him and says like, hey, daddy, wanna get a massage, whatever. And then he like sees something in her that he's like, ooh, there's something interesting about you. And then like kind of takes her aside and then like there's like this little scuffle and like, oh, there's gonna be a black male,
Starting point is 03:10:21 but it's like, ah, his poison means that like his dick don't work or whatever the fuck the story is Bufon's poison makes him like uninterested, you know, and unaroused in general, but you know something about the the darkness behind her eyes Was intriguing and it seemed like she could be immune to the poison that like her His the people he trained with had and so he takes her under his wing and does a test and all this stuff and then he actually has there's a dagger that was used in Street Fighter 4 and one of the endings that gets comes back into play in this case but whatever I'm sure all of this is really completely relevant when she drops later this month. She does a bunch of moves that look
Starting point is 03:11:08 later this month. She does a bunch of moves that look similar to Fong's moves, but she's got a bunch that are just unique as well, and she just looks like a better version of that concept of a poison character. Yeah, so Fong came out and he was the poison guy, and he had a lot of animal moves and so as a result He decided that he would he would resemble the most poisonous animal of all the bird And had a lot of bird moves Well, you know, he would drop poison bombs on you like like a bird will do, right? From the cloaca. And then Aki said, hey, snakes and snakes have poison. And scorpions have poison. Oh, let me do some snakes.
Starting point is 03:12:00 Maybe that'll be scary. And scorpion inspired moves. Yeah, so she's got the stabby little like nails. She's got the ability to poison you in the same way. And of course, once you hit her, the poison goes away. So a lot of her stuff is probably going to be about like, you know, getting you poisoned and then slinking away on the ground, really annoying. What's confusing about it too is when you look at it in the trailer, she actually has multiple things happening
Starting point is 03:12:33 when she's on the ground. There's seems to be two different moves, right? There's one move that's kind of like a slide, and then from the slide, it'll be very quick and it'll cross you up to the other side, and it can sometimes go from a short distance to full screen. And it's the same time you see her go behind you, and then it'll lead into a big backflip attack
Starting point is 03:12:57 that she kind of does. And then there's a slither on the ground that's actually a slow moving stance. And from that one, she can do the kick out that we saw in the trailer, she can do the kind of scorpion strike flip kick or a command grab from low. So yeah, don't get slithered up on. And then like it seems like she's got the same sort of screen denial options as well where Fong used to put out the unblockable poison like kind of projectile. For her, she throws it out there, but she can also, instead of doing the smoke on the ground, she just puts a puddle.
Starting point is 03:13:35 So if you stand in the puddle at all, you're poisoned. Kind of like a fucking more combat character, almost. With the ice on the ground. Yeah, I think it has zero ice floor. There's a secondary aspect to it as well, which is if someone is poisoned and then you poison them a second time, they actually burst into a poison blossom, which juggles them up for a combo. You know, so it seems like you can feel like that's what that mechanic actually needed.
Starting point is 03:14:02 Yeah. Right. So here's some slow damage. So there was damage? To repoison anybody in a fucking fight in five if they were already poisoned. Yeah, you kind of would essentially do setups to make it so that it was nearly unavoidable and then you'd run away for a while
Starting point is 03:14:19 or rush them down with his... So tocha, real bad, nah. All that shit. Yeah. Instead of you're like, oh your like out or really don't like this poison and then oh no i'm not a fan of having more poison out and uh... street fighter six is a game that again it very much is like no autopilot you have to make decisions and make hard reads right so it's an interesting thought to think i can poison you and then run away and just let it do its work while you chase me or
Starting point is 03:14:48 I can poison you and then cash out for a further damage opportunity off of the jungle that comes with it You know and maybe in some cases it's worth it in some cases. It's not Depending on the matchup, you know, so it's cool to have options off of the same tool very a very K.I. Way to do it So it's cool to have options off of the same tool very very K.I. way to do it Yeah, the level two drops the poison on the ground the level one knocks you up into a bubble and then level three is of course just the big cinematic but yeah overall I'm also a huge fan of like I realize any time a move is like a bunch of like tracking laser like Things that that like spiral out. I just love that effect. So she does it for her level two But you also see it with like when J. U.T. does the big burst or in when you do a bomb in Ikaruga
Starting point is 03:15:38 You know like the way that everything spirals out and then hits a target I love that looking thing. So you're gonna really like a Boston armored core. Nice. Nice. It's such a cool effect, right? Yeah. So I think, you know, as Capcom has officially acknowledged at this point, no, you cannot fix her. You deserve better as sage I said. Stop trying. Um, think better of yourself. Think worth it. Like, we keep going back and forth and it's like, you know, like you, you get in a Baldur's Gate.
Starting point is 03:16:15 You're like, oh, the first two women you run into in that game are like, busted garbage. Like just awful horrible right away. But what if you can fix them? Mm-hmm that appeal is like it's very high people like that Yeah, no Reggie said one time red flags need love to I was like Jesus Christ But I think I think the funniest variation is like when you're looking back with Rose tinted glasses All the red flags just look like flags. They just look like flag. That's pretty good. That's pretty good Yeah, yeah
Starting point is 03:16:58 You know when you when you know you got to delete that number, but you don't do it right when you know you gotta delete that number but you don't do it right now I think I think yeah Aki is gonna unleash a whole new angle of degeneracy and if they were willing to play into the foot game with jury the way they have play into the the the fucking you know the Marissa abs and whatever else I don't know Chun Lee's tits I'm sure there's gonna be more than enough going on with Aki as well that they're gonna lean the fucking to based on everyone's wild insane unhealthy thirst yeah that second costume looks right though she's got a little dress that's very pretty.
Starting point is 03:17:45 I want to see the color variations on it. Looks like it's going to be cool. Take your bets now on what AKI stands for. Oh my god. Asian killer. I don't. Killer I'm bad old And no, mm-hmm. I have nothing okay. I've no I have no nothing intent No, no not instinct no No There's something there there There's something something like something anyway. It's got to be lame. It can't sound kind of cool
Starting point is 03:18:29 Yeah, no, that's my problem. Mm-hmm. Because you could say Asian killer agent. No, no, no, Asian killer ingestion. That's cool. Ingestion Inje- oh, that's fucking so stupid. She puts the poison in your mouth and you ingest it. There you go. Hey, do you know the fucking thing on her pinky is the Brazilian wandering spiders poison and that poison gives you huge dick. Think about it. You remember metal gear, you remember that?
Starting point is 03:19:00 You remember when Michael Bell gave you snake a fat cock in that boss fight You remember that I don't remember that no, okay, so you know when the fear shoots you with the arrow It says Brazilian what yeah that poison also gives you like a super intense erection. Oh damn Okay, so that whole fight snake is fighting the fear with like a rock hard dick that whole fight snake is fighting the fear with like a rock hard dick. Now I know that they replaced Diasa Palm with Loresa Palm. That's in world change. It's the same drug. They just changed the name to the generic version, right?
Starting point is 03:19:37 Yeah. After the copyrighted. The same fucking drug. Okay. Well, I've taken Loresa Pam. It's chill. It's fine Maybe very good at sniping Well, he did confirm that he wanted his hog squeezed so it's true
Starting point is 03:19:58 All right Akki looks cool That's like God What's up Aki looks cool Oh my god What's up? Did you see the spider-man fucking add for the fucking the collector's edition? I didn't click on it, but the context clues imply that somewhere Sony is advertising that you need to prepare yourself for 19 inches of venom that you need to prepare yourself for 19 inches of venom.
Starting point is 03:20:29 Quote, treat yourself to 19 inches of venom and more with Marvel Spider-Man to collect your submission. Like, they mean the statue, the statue. I mean, like the human body literally cannot. That's not true when you know it. Mr. Hands. Yeah. I mean, he died, but he didn't die the other times. We know about him because he died, but if he hadn't died, he'd still be doing it.
Starting point is 03:21:01 Until he died. Well, he was he was he was he went out asking if the horse got off, you know, so selfless to the end. No, no, that, mm-hmm. No, no, that's not okay. You see you don't get to approach the wall and then when I push it over you don't Go I don't like what's behind that wall. I'm leaving. Well then why did you know that's not what I'm saying? No, no, that's not what I'm saying. I, no, no, that's not what I'm saying. I'm like, I disagree. Oh, oh, oh, I see. That being a selfless act. I see, I see, right.
Starting point is 03:21:51 I think that's actually just, no. An even more selfish act. Yes, well, I mean, if you zoom out in there. I can't die without this horse come. Please don't let me die. can't die without this horse come. Please don't let me die. I mean, look, in the context of Atomal Abuse, you know, anyways, hey, hey, hey.
Starting point is 03:22:13 I think the animal was the one doing the abusing on that one. Okay, can we just back up a little bit and go back to the segue? Oh, now you just want, oh, now we're too close to the wall. I was, I had a segue that I was gonna use, but then we had to stop off at Mr. Hens. So now everyone who's a brand new listener who hasn't been around needs to learn about.
Starting point is 03:22:37 No, no, no, no, no deal is. The dude who got fucked to death by a horse with a penis that was probably at least a 19 inches or so. I don't know the length of course, but if we're talking about venom being 19 inches and this guy was able to, you know, then... Yeah, but venom's got the all that symbiote pulsing shit. I bet that's way safer. I didn't need to do the ham thing.
Starting point is 03:23:01 Why did I... Oh. Like that didn't need a visual. All right. You know how you know how venom kind of comes around and then there's the mouth and it like yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah What are the logistics? No, no, you know what? What if we don't move on? Yeah, no, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just,
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Starting point is 03:24:15 coming off like the dick. Well, he is a lethal protector. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Why was it me? How's that? Venom. How's that fit at all? Venom lethal protector, after all. You know, so who's to say what he's protecting you for up, right? It's contextual. I would prefer 19 inches of venom to 19 inches of carnage.
Starting point is 03:24:43 I'll tell you that much. Oh yeah, I think everybody would, except for know the people that disagree and they're freaks don't you know are you Do you want what if you were had to deal with 19 inches of phage? I don't know while you Mm-hmm. We've we've gone outside the bounds of what I even know we're talking about oh we're hitting symbiots baby We're talking I don't I leave I mean I look know we're talking about. Oh, we're hitting symbiots, baby. We're talking, we're talking. I don't, I mean, is that a symbiote? Separation anxiety.
Starting point is 03:25:12 I don't fucking know. Okay, well, that's fine. If it's not that Spider-Man cartoon show, I don't fucking know nothing about that. Well, fortunately for you, I don't need you to know. I just need you to sit there and take it while I write down the title of the episode. All right, that's fine.
Starting point is 03:25:27 Yeah. Say, thange, like PH-A-G-E. Mm-hmm. Oh, dude, I mean, there are. When it comes to a lot, there's a lot. I look, when it comes to, like, you know how the clone saga was full of bullshit. Oh yeah, I see, I don't know anything about the clone saga.
Starting point is 03:25:51 Other than it was full of bullshit. Okay, well, when you get into the B tier symbiates, fucking riot and lacher, agony. I mean, dude, that looks just like carnage. But nah, they're different though. That's different. No it's different That looks exactly the same. No, no, no, no, no, shut up is different Okay, remember that time remember that time that Marval came up with a villain for Spider-Man that was like Really cool because it used to be the suit he was wearing except it was on a different character
Starting point is 03:26:34 And now it's like the anti-Spider-Man. Yeah, that's correct. What if we kept doing that? How many times can you do that? Well, we did it again and we got carnage and that was pretty cool because that was the wild one. No, but that's not what happened. That was that was Venom's baby. Yep, but then what if we just kept doing it? So wait, is Fage from this carnage? Just baby? Or like...
Starting point is 03:26:58 Uh, you know what? I'm not gonna answer that because I don't fucking know. You just said they just did it again, so how do they do it? They were all the fucking reject cart came, rejects came from somewhere. I don't know where they came from. Where did they come from? Venom maybe? I don't know.
Starting point is 03:27:15 Who cares? They suck. Venge Venom where. I remember there was an issue of pregnant venom where it was pretty good. There was a pregnant venom issue that was pretty good that I liked because the suit, because the symbiote was like, we need Peter Parker because he had the best adrenaline and we need your adrenaline to allow our babies to exist and Peter's like, get the fuck away from me. And I was like, damn, that angry suit is preggers and real mad.
Starting point is 03:27:49 Oh, okay. So yeah, no, the page is one of, um, one of, um, Venom's symbiote balls after they were afraid of the mutual assured destruction fall out of the cold war. So that is a that is a character locked deep in a very specific time. Please look forward to phage lacher and the rest of the symbiates appearing soon in ultimate Marvel versus Capcom three community addition. This is a good segue, that was a good one. Thank you. Dude, these fucking extra symbiosis look like shit. Oh, I've been I've been trying it. I've been trying to tell you
Starting point is 03:28:52 There's some dark times that you just you move right past them, but They are doing it. They're fucking doing it man And it's the one thing I wanted when I first heard about the fact that you could mod Marvel. They, um, thanks, Max. Max put out the bounty to make, to ask to get more slots. And that was brilliant because that's what you need to make the container that you can play this game in. And that was figured out. And, um, I'm looking at that. And when when I first saw like, oh, you can mod characters, you can do original things and you can find a way to get them to load into the game with the rest of the cast here, can we pull a project M and get the best, most balanced together group organized, you know, modded characters and make a version of this game that is a full package.
Starting point is 03:29:45 And fuck yeah, they're doing it. Because when we did a modded stream, we did a modded Marvel stream a while ago, and I had to piece it together individually grabbing. I got, yeah. That's a whole massive fucking pain in the ass. That's, that's, that's, come on, that's too much. I'll do that.
Starting point is 03:30:00 It took a lot, it took a lot of work, but I did, once I figured it out, you know, I got Rashid in there and like Monster Hunter, as I mentioned, and they brought Monster Hunter and Thanos back from Infinite, accurate Virgil. Just some really cool things as well, Bison, Cyclops is super accurate as well. And now they're putting it all together
Starting point is 03:30:24 in a Community edition that features 50 new characters according to the trailer Absolutely incredible Yeah, the trailer shows it's like 50 new ones and shows like Ultron and fucking OSSER and shit But then the it only actually goes in a detail about like four or five and like at evo It only actually goes in a detail about like four or five. And at Evo, at Evo, I got to get a sneak peek for the trailer for the footage that some of what was shown. But Nero from fucking DMC five, like absolutely looking brilliant.
Starting point is 03:30:59 And it's the number one character I wanted in Marvel. And he's doing it, he's switching off the arm. He's got the snatch He's revving. He's fucking that exacting You know, Nero is showing off as shown off right now and you can see the couple of combos with him You can see Gene from Godhand as we brought up a couple months ago as well that project is continued So he's got all the clips, he's talking shit. If there's another Devil May Cry game, sorry, if there's another Marvel,
Starting point is 03:31:30 like the ability to make a team of neuro-vergel, Dante, is so mandatory. Team Devil May Cry, not Zero May Cry, not Trish May Cry, Devil May Cry, done, right? Like, it's so mandatory. It's there. Like, you can get Ken Ryu and Akuma on the same team, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 03:31:52 Same energy here, it's so fucking cool. They just need to stop caring about balance and just put as many characters as the junior designers can fit. So that was the energy that Marvel 2 was made with. Like, literally, we made the greatest games of all time. Lasted for 45 years. We put all these characters in other games, just mugen them into one and don't check twice to see if they work.
Starting point is 03:32:18 Yeah, that was a smart. So 50 characters are gonna be dropping here. They also showed off the thing as in fantastic for Ben Grim. And he seems to have some moves that are apparently are referencing his Mugen version as well, so that's dope. That is Zany. Right. There's, I mean, a bunch of stuff being teased. Iceman of course, some classics from... Like, almost all the infinite characters from Marvel Infinite coming backwards. I mean, that's like free. Right. Including variations to characters who got changed as well so that they have their infinite versions if you want to do that.
Starting point is 03:32:58 Dan of course is in the fucking game. Iceman Cyclops, we saw a little bit of as well. Classic Dante and classic Virgil I mentioned before and where was it? I know that as like when I was playing as well with some of the characters Yuriin was one of the characters that you could play as Hyper Yuriin is kind of nuts with nuts with the ages reflector combos and shit. Um, but yeah, those are what they're showing off. There's what they're teasing and then they're saying they got 50 more as well as new stages apparently. We saw a little hint of Captain Commando. So 50 more is so many more. And that is what's awesome is that this is a collaborative effort by a bunch of people that are
Starting point is 03:33:46 getting together and coordinating. And I like the idea that like, you know, however, they balance these characters, they can like make changes and then put out another collective version together. I think, you know, I think there's something so first of all, it's really cool that when you look at the trailer or the credits, it's like character and then the person who made that for the character. I think that's super red. Yeah. The second thing is as I'm watching this trailer again, and just being like really impressed at the amount of work.
Starting point is 03:34:17 And like I'm watching like Nero and I'm watching thing. And I think that there's something really incredible that this community version is bringing back to Marvel that Marvel has been missing since Marvel 2, which is look at all these characters. They're all smashed together. Oh my God, that's so many of them. They all look like they were made with wildly varying levels of visual quality. Many of them don't fit next to each other at all.
Starting point is 03:34:46 And that's great. They're unique. They're unique looking. Well, when you have lots of people collaborating together, you're gonna notice the difference between how they're handled, right? I will say that I, I hear her looks fucking great.
Starting point is 03:35:07 Incredible. Your hero looks like the closest to the in-game model. So I really, really hope to that like, there's a couple of things with this one. As long as they like, you don't get lost in the sauce and just go, now we're putting Goku in it, right? No, you should! Like, I think...
Starting point is 03:35:27 You should put Goku! So Soul Bad Guy is already kind of they're hidden inside of an install with Shehok. Red Shehok can become Soul Bad Guy, right? I though, I'm like, let's have a bunch of wild-ass Marvel and Capcom picks as we go down that list. Because when you go, when you grab everyone you've ever wanted from Marvel and Capcom, you're probably going to have another 20 remaining after you've gotten all the best ones out.
Starting point is 03:36:01 You have one. I have a solution. Have Jean have an alternate costume in which he's wearing Goku's clothes. Not his hair, but like Jean decides to cause play as Goku. Then of course the other thing I think we're gonna run into is yeah, hair come all your favorites,
Starting point is 03:36:22 a bunch of custom characters, 80% of them are gonna be Capcom characters that needed to be there Like yeah, you know there will be four amazing Capcom picks for every one Marvel pick probably I don't know But like we'll have to see you know, but there's a lot of shoe-ins that we want um and I think even in the trailer that they put out the first trailer, three of the four characters are kept on. Yeah, you know, like like we've already hit Modok and we've already hit, you know, we've got Shuma Gorath and all the, you know, all
Starting point is 03:36:58 the wild ones. So, you know, it's not too long before we're going to, you're going to get all the obvious ones, you're gonna get your loot cage, you're gonna get your Daredevil, you know, the picks that needed to be there up front. And then you're gonna get all the characters that were, you're gonna get all the guardians, you know what I mean? Like, they're all the obvious ones, I'm sure,
Starting point is 03:37:19 but you might hit a point where you're like, ah, Bishop? You know, you know? You might hit a point where you're like, ah, bishop. You know what? I don't care how many times we have to say it. I'm going to reiterate something that you said like eight years ago. Capcom is the only company that could do a smash brothers with just their own characters.
Starting point is 03:37:43 And I'm thinking about it, there are so many Goddamn good characters from Capcom that could fit in a fight. Like, it's insane. Probably more than smash! It's insane. And it's like the Capcom fighting all stars, the Capcom versus Capcom, the hypothetical. Like, it's not just how big of
Starting point is 03:38:06 the roster is, it's how many of them are great, how many of them are awesome picks that would be a fantastic fit, you know, if you look at something like Captain Commando from where it came from, to what he became, you're like, yeah, just do that to every one of those old CPS1, CPS2 games. That's a fuck ton of characters, right? I think somebody in the chat just said, I could give you 50 characters for Capcom versus Capcom off the top of my head. Right?
Starting point is 03:38:37 I mean, honestly, all the strikers in Marvel 1 that were never fully playable could instantly you could probably do a roster of 100 with just characters that have already been in Marvel versus Capcom. I mean, if you're not gonna just grab, like here's the thing, right? Easy mode, every Street Fighter Darkstalker,
Starting point is 03:38:58 and... Oh, that's easy! Easy mode, come on. Every Street Fighter and Darkstalker is easy mode, right? Furthermore, like, you know, also easy is grabbing every every Warzard, right? Grabbing every like fighting game existing roster that's already there. I think you six Resident Evil characters right now That's my point, right? That's not the most fun way to go. Yes, you can grab the fucking pot, you can grab Pyron and throw him in there. But how much funner is it to come up
Starting point is 03:39:31 with a playstyle for Edgeworth, right? And put that together. He's not Phoenix, right? It's not Phoenix's playstyle. He's Edgeworth's style. How do you put a prosecution style, you know, in like into play with a similar similar but different to Phoenix system going? I mean, that's the real fun. How do you get Ghost Trick in there? How do you come up with?
Starting point is 03:39:53 Ed's worth would be would be about changing the opponent's moves. He would update the autopsy report and that would change the other fighters. Man, you know, like how do you get in like not just fucking, uh, uh, I mean, obviously you can get Regina, but you got to get her in there with a bunch of dinosaurs jumping in from all angles of the screen. Yeah. I have a chill from MVC to fighting off dinosaurs while she fights you, you know, uh, it's there's so many great places they could go and have a ton of fun with it. So yeah, it's it's it's it's for and then you could do all that and still not put a breath of fire character in Then grab was is it Ryu from from three? grab was is it Ryu from from three the or so I think I'm not sure is Ray right now is really these are he's a dragon do you get it
Starting point is 03:40:50 um yeah the unknown soldier and and and I mean look Teppin is even incorporated a bunch of random fucking Capcom classics here and there you go down that list of Teppin cards and and they're all waiting for you a million mega man characters to pick from that are great You know, I feel like mega man more than anything else has to have like a really hard limit because there's like 4,000 yeah Yeah, no, no, you got it. You got to get what matters you got to get the good ones in there, you know like the the representatives of each of the of the eras I think you're and you're good to go um of the of the eras, I think you're and you're good to go. But yeah, that's it.
Starting point is 03:41:28 Like the funnest picks are the ones that are not from fighting games being put into that system. You know? Anyway, anyway. Capcom, I think it says a lot. This game is going to have 50 extra characters and there will still be like Hundreds that people like there will be people to oh this list is terrible. It doesn't include fucking whoever right so like Fucking so-and-so sure whatever the sure someone will be asking for be right. Yeah, someone will be asking for ua to the watcher
Starting point is 03:42:07 to to to show up um and at the same time yeah you can get maybe a maximum in there. Absolutely. Fuck yeah. Um anyways, I uh, I look forward to the creative team important are working on this and figuring it out. I look forward to all of the creators figuring out and, of course, developing a consensus on how the balance should work. Yeah, exciting. They could even create a backroom, Illuminati of sorts, to determine how the rules should go so that everybody can come together and you know vote on what balance what characters should get
Starting point is 03:42:52 buffed and nerfed collectively. You know what they should do? Not. Do that. Well, they should just be like upload your character as is and no one will check it. Are you aware of the the melee backroom? I'm not, I'm not aware. Back in the days, smash brothers, when they came up with the community with
Starting point is 03:43:14 the tournament rules set, they came up, they had the backroom of like the Illuminati members of the smash community that all would get together of like the best players and Tios and whatever. And the salay dominoes would decide what stages were legal, what stages were banned, what characters and so on and so forth. And you know, project M, I believe came out of a number of members as well, having a similar kind of like consensus group for balancing and such. And it led to apparently just the most insane flame wars because people can yell at Capcom or SNK or Harada when they want their character to get balanced or not nerfed.
Starting point is 03:43:58 But when the guy who's nerfing your character is right there in the forum, and I can look at you and go, fuck it, don't do it. It gets way more toxic. Can I, I would like to, I would like to, I think I am done describing a bunch of guys that look like me sweating in a hotel room arguing about video game balance as the Illuminati. I think that is fucking the most absurd shit that I have just covered over and over and over and over. It's so fucking ostentatious and pretentious and ridiculous. Hand me the Doritos fellow Illuminati member.
Starting point is 03:44:52 Bala, lala. I think that Steve should be banned from Minecraft. Who says I? I? I like come on. It's fucking ridiculous. Now to be fair, the people behind those salay dominoes were probably pretty gross and Cheetos dust infused as well. Oh, those guys, they were all in like hospice care in like fucking tube, heaven or whatever, but. But, uh, yeah, now, now on the one hand, absolutely, Yeah, now now on the one hand Absolutely, but then the results of those decisions are like good or ring out so that somebody's crack at a fucking
Starting point is 03:45:39 multi-thousand dollar pot and a bracket might get affected because they said Pupu to the stage counter pick that's now a yellow stage instead of a red one. Seeing fucking the cannon brother sitting on a fucking throne with their wine glasses. Mmm, yes. Mmm, yes, we make all the decisions. I mean, like, come on. When I was running, when I was T.O. for Montreal and stuff, there was a like meeting of T.O.s together at EVO to discuss like the local events that tied in EVO points and stuff together. But I mean, it wasn't it wasn't going to be deciding the balance changes, you know, because the collective front needs to be ready for like we have nerfed X and then the waves of WAAA and then you have to you know and then they might see you in the streets that are at the next bracket and they might run up on you and then what you know
Starting point is 03:46:31 Damn you you nerfed nest into the dirt Time to get your fucking kneecaps busted bro See you at the locals you see that ring on his pinky that means he killed someone in order to make balance changes and See you at the locals baby Shit, yeah, yeah So you know how quickly we're excited for edgeworth only to find out that edgeworth has been nerfed into the dirt for Edgeworth only to find out that Edgeworth has been nerfed into the dirt, right? Or Nero is now garbage tier. And now what?
Starting point is 03:47:09 What am I supposed to do? Accept that? Fuck you. I see your Twitter. Time to fucking brigade and then kick up a stink. You know what somebody should do, right? Start gang stalking. Somebody should go in and fucking just be like, I recorded the entire argument over my character's nerf.
Starting point is 03:47:33 Here are the bad actors who wanted this character to be bad. They said that it was too, but they said it was too strong, but their character is actually even stronger and just get all filthy smear shit. Yeah, I mean look dude. I have firsthand accounts of I can tell by the tone in your voice, but you're about to say is awful And no, it's just an it's just an insight into the mentality. I have first signed accounts of like devs who work on finding game devs who like would go to evo and stuff and sometimes
Starting point is 03:48:08 they you are like you know off doing their own thing in chill like and sometimes they'd hang out with certain communities and be like oh yeah let's go to this room and get some games and mess around and whatnot and whenever there was a chance for like a dev to like intermingle and face off against the top player or so. And if the top player beats the dev, sometimes that might result in them being like, if you're making the game and I can beat you, that means I know better than you. And that means that here's why your decision making is shit. And the fact that you can't even beat me means I'm the one that understands the game better and I make I and I'm the one that should be listened to.
Starting point is 03:48:49 And you know what's what's fun about that is that that is wrong, but it's also intuitive. It like it's not actually correct, but it does make sense. They're coming from a point. You know everything and you're in decision, then shouldn't you just be such an expert that you can just win every time? Right. Right. In theory, Sakurai should win every tournament of Smash Brothers, no matter what, at all times. Yeah, yeah. Can can yo GP crush everything better than
Starting point is 03:49:31 every every world record better than anyone else. Actually he's he's he's actually like incredible but not just incredible. The best like 98% of the fantastic because anyone who is better of the reason for that might be because black mage never gets nerfed ever. I see. I see. Black mage is always the class that every time it comes around, it's like, hey, wow, I'm really happy with all these changes somebody who plays black mage really had oh right it's the director
Starting point is 03:50:13 Because I was talking to a friend of mine shout out to Michael Mupola the artist wrestler and Cosplayer and Tekken player who a cool guy from New Zealand Then he was telling me about how like he got a couple of games of Tekken in with her rata and Like he was playing because he plays C-Place King and like there was a couple times where like he's there like establishing strength messing around hitting buttons and then he noticed Harada liked going for lows so that he just was like get that shit out of your son and just-parried him like multiple times and fucking body I was like oh no you low-parried her at It was great and he was like and her at it was just like oh suyoi suyoi strong strong I'm taking back a long time. I found one states e3 2012
Starting point is 03:51:07 time I found one states E3 2012 where Matt and I went down to the dive kick booth and Dave Lang was there and we got to hang out and talk with Dave Lang for a while and I played some matches with Dave Lang and I beat fucking Dave into the dirt at dive kick and I looked over at him and I was I was being genuine I like, okay, man, I know how to play, like you don't have to take it easy on me because you want like a dive kit to get like a good impression. And he looked back at me and was like, I'm doing my best, man. Like I'm not faking being bad.
Starting point is 03:51:39 I'm whole. Dude, producers are not devs and devs are not the QA team. Okay? You know, they don't get, when they have to put out video footage to show off combos and trailer and things to establish what characters can do, they don't call out the producers. They call out QA. So right now, the people who are showing off and doing wild shit in Project L were the fucking, you know, nerd josh's, your hosties and Marlon Pies of the world, right?
Starting point is 03:52:11 Like not a whatever riot executive you can think of, you know, so. Anyways, um, all right, let's, let's wrap it up. All right, here's one good email If you want to send in one good email send it to castle super beast mail a gmail.com Mm-hmm Also, I mean we'll see more when the story develops but there might be a sag after video game strike. We'll find out That'd be hilarious Do it do it
Starting point is 03:52:44 Ten big companies all listed I'm like oh man. What if I cover one of those games that's stricken and then I looked at the list of companies and like Fucking strike away It will affect no one Right Alright, let's take one coming in from Kimo for says dear woolly one and pat one what is the craziest thing you in 4K. When one buffers, he switches apps. For reference, I'm from Egypt, where our maximum internet speed is 30 megabits per second. And we have a bandwidth data cap of 140 gigs per month.
Starting point is 03:53:35 If that wasn't enough, she scrolls through Facebook on the side. It's so bad that my browser just gives up even loading Google. As for my dad, he eats his takeout sushi with a fork and his microwave. Oh, oh, that's all. The fork's not that crazy. And then I'm like, wow. So mine is a little more subtle, but I need you to understand that this is like once a
Starting point is 03:54:02 week for my whole life when I was living at home. My dad likes to make himself like eggs and bacon and toast on Saturday mornings, right? Like the most normal fucking thing in the world. Except he fries his eggs too hot and he refuses to wear a shirt. So he is constantly being peppered and burned by spitting eggs for like 10 minutes and And like he he he won't change anything about this process Like like my whole life Like dad woke up and he's tired and he's got no shirt on he's gonna make some eggs and he's like ah Like dad put a shirt. He's like not's fine. It's fine. It's fine
Starting point is 03:54:44 And like or like turn down the fucking, like it's too hot, so now I want it now. And like just refu- Absolutely refuses to change any part of that situation to not end up with like, oil burns on his chest. That's pretty, that's pretty fucked. But he wears glasses even though it has neatest glasses because sometimes the oil would hit his glasses and he'd be like, good thing I'm wearing my glasses or that would have
Starting point is 03:55:16 really hurt. I do know that I have like I said my roommate back in the day that his dad worked as a cook. He just he was fucking doing he was which we call it. When you're doing when you're fusing metal welding welding he was welding a fence and the sparks were just hitting up his body. And it's like, what the fuck is going on? Arms just getting lit up and it's like, oh, yeah, he cooks with hot oil every day. He feels nothing.
Starting point is 03:55:52 Nothing. It's all gone. Yeah. Um, damn. Do I even want to say this? No, you're good. No, I don't worry about that too much. Yeah. Yeah, tap out. You want to move on to a different email?
Starting point is 03:56:10 Okay. I got to the contact. All right. It's probably fine. It's probably fine. But it's just, again, we're talking, we're just talking weird behavior, right? Just the weird behavior. Yeah, crazy thing.
Starting point is 03:56:29 Crazy thing. I mean, all in good fun, right? Keeping with the spirit of the fact that this is a comedic podcast in nature, I suppose. Oh, I bet this is gonna be hilarious. No, it's, I've known for a long time and it feels like, you know, people have different textures that they're a fan of.
Starting point is 03:56:52 Oh boy, okay, well look, I love you, mom. The, the, people are fans of different textures. So people like, you know, crunchy things, soft things, et cetera. My mom has always been a fan of like, things with like chalky textures to them like powdery foods or okay Yeah, I good things that she likes on my thing, but I get it. Yeah, there's can't there's like the little pop-I candy sticks You know, they're kind of powdery and love those things all right And then like anything that has that kind of energy to it
Starting point is 03:57:18 And I also know it's kind of why she likes milk of magnesia for example, which is also extremely powdery And I hated it's awful and gross, but she's down. I mean, I know that she's been like, as she said before, she's like, you ever just feel like you want to just like taste like something really chalky? And I was like, no, I don't understand that at all. Actually, it's like, okay, well, you know,
Starting point is 03:57:40 it's like like all right Might have seen might have seen It's too late now, it's too late. It's too late Might have might... might have... might have... Might have found a... Piece of chalk with a... Yeah, knew it. An indentation in it. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 03:58:22 Dude, peeker rules! Dude peeker rules Like a couple weeks ago I described like eating pencils I wouldn't swallow but like yeah, you got a you got a chew a bunch of wooden and plastic I just don't I just don't know where or what but look like hey you all and you all have your shit Okay, and you I'm sure they they have everyone are you bad for you? I'm sure it can't be good for you. I'll hold on Is it okay to eat chalk? That was a weird auto complete
Starting point is 03:59:00 It started to auto complete is it okay to eat chalk while pregnant? It started to autocomplete isn't okay to eat chalk while pregnant. What is this kids from? What chalk is minimally toxic? Like what? Poisonous and small amounts and may not hurt you, it is never a good idea. It gets disrupted. I just have to systems. But if it's the powdery part, there's so many edible powders that we consume.
Starting point is 03:59:25 You know? Well, as, as, listen. As somebody who probably has a minor case of pica and likes to eat things that aren't real food, just to chew on them. What is, what is this, what is pica? What is, what is, what is, what is, what is, what is, what is, what is, what is, what is what is, what is, what is, what is, what is, what is, what is, what is, what is, what is what is, what is, what is, what is, what is, what is, what is, what is, what is, what is
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Starting point is 04:00:01 Okay, don't do that, don't do that. No, no, no. Because it can, it can fuck your stomach up really bad. Okay. Um, well, I mean, look, I just... It's a forbidden candy. But yeah, as somebody, as somebody who, uh, who has eaten things that shouldn't have been eaten,
Starting point is 04:00:15 um, sometimes you just have a, like, a really intense compulsion to chew on your plastic straw like crazy. Hmm. I don't, yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I do know that there's, again, there's the, there's the, you think you'd hit up, you'd stock up on some Popeye sticks and, and call it a day, but, you know, anyways. Just don't have that around.
Starting point is 04:00:38 Or maybe it's just different. Look, man, I don't know. And, and I still don't. And that's what it is. And there you go. Alright, so it's out there now. Alright, bam. You should eat some chalk.
Starting point is 04:00:51 And you'll know. Ah. Then you'll know. I'll eat some chalk right now. I don't have any, but I would. I do it. I feel kind of bad, but it's fine. I remember once Paige got like upset, because like cat hair gone on her food
Starting point is 04:01:08 And I was like check this out and I pulled a piece of hair off the cat and ate it and she almost threw up on the floor That's on camera. There's a string. I forget when that was but that that did happen for real You didn't fake you didn't fake it Fuck no. There's the feeling of like hair at the back of your throat I always see it was automatically gagged. I didn't like it. Okay. No Does the feeling of like hair at the back of your throat not make automatically gag. I didn't like it. Okay. No, it's very bad. I didn't like it. It was really bad idea. Okay. Um, thank you for crawling underneath the bus and making room so that I could safely remove my hair. If you have a cat or a dog, you can't, dog hair all the time. I appreciate you making room for me to escort my mother from under the bus
Starting point is 04:01:47 So that you may now take her place. That's that's that's a very generous gesture That's fucking wild bro. What is wrong with you? Oh my god. Oh Is there is there a strange nexus of confusion between the pad of last week who can't let food touch and the pad of this week who eat chalk and pencils and cat hair no problem. If you have to ask. As long as the pencil doesn't touch the charts. you

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