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МУЗЫКАЛЬНАЯ ЗАСТАВКА Yeah
Yep
Willie how the fuck am I gonna post my fucking fortnight dubs to social media now?
What's what's wrong? What's happening PlayStation is getting rid of Twitter integration
next week. Oh really
That's breaking news that's from like 10 minutes ago wait. Why why?
Because in February Twitter said hey, we need to make more money. You know what we're gonna do? We're gonna charge everyone who uses the Twitter API.
And then everyone went, oh, okay, cool.
We'll cut out the Twitter API.
And then Twitter went, no, no, no, you're supposed to pay us.
You're not supposed to stop using it.
No, no, we're gonna stop using it.
Yeah, well, now I'm officially just confused
as to how to get videos off of the thing.
I guess direct up to YouTube is like,
Hey, that's the only remaining option.
But here's the question, how does screenshots get off the PlayStation now?
Yeah, like, I don't know.
What?
So there's, oh, you can hold on.
The app, there's an app with the PS app, you can have it sync
so that whenever you take a screenshot it ends up on your phone
Yeah, that app sucks. It's not great, but that was I used that for Elden ring so that I could post
The update screenshots of when we're when you're saying that you can use a USB drive. How convenient?
Bro, there is a button on this controller.
Yeah, dedicated.
That's how fun to do.
That's how fun to do.
You said, oh man.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's a zero.
Like one of the reasons why the RGG series is doing well
is stuff like the old LP and people going,
you can't push, yeah, it's a,
but the other thing was like, when Zero came out,
people were sharing like nugget and that's rad
and you know, all the stupid shit
that happens in that game to Twitter.
And that's one of the reasons why there are two
like a dragon games coming out in the next three months
in English.
I mean, I think like if there was a way to just go like,
okay, upload to Google Drive and or email it to yourself,
if you really had to.
So useful.
But whatever looks like when you hit a share button
on your phone and you see whatever pops up there,
essentially, but yeah, that's annoying.
Cause I don't feel like uploading to YouTube to then download, to then repost,
to, you know, like that sucks.
It sucks.
Shitty, so it's happening in February?
No, it's happening next week.
Oh, it's happening this coming Monday.
Yeah.
I, the people who are hurt the most by this by far is Indy Devs who rely on like, you know, oh, there's a clip from our game. Wow. Yeah, though I assume if you're like in a studio
setting, you're probably going to want to like El Gato capture or something like that, you know,
you're probably gonna wanna like Elgato capture or something like that, you know.
No, but yeah, but word of mouth, not like.
Yes, I'm talking about the studio putting up a clip
of fucking about people.
I'm talking about Jimmy,
Jimmy Assassin's Creed fan 44,
posting this cool thing he found out in Enter the Gungeon.
Damn.
And that blowing up.
You know, I thought that when we entered the era of Xbox record that there was no going back
There was
There was going back yeah
And it is funny to when you yeah when you when you look at it like we've discarded the concept of the select button
You know for the share button,
as a major concept going for you.
But a mom was tweeting,
she was just going like,
imagine having a button on game consoles
that might as well be the Twitter button.
And going,
nah, no. And going, nah! Mm-hmm.
No!
But like, yeah.
And it was probably inevitable
because you also think about how that button popped up
on every, there's a moment when every website
got a share on social media, like button underneath it,
you know, the little, little, little share icon thing.
Like there was a period during the odds where it just became like,
oh yeah, like, if you're already signed in, click this and, and, and, you know,
it just, it clearly became a good idea for, for the ability to people, to easily
push people towards different websites and chits.
So the fact that that would replace the select button, which again, at the time,
I'm like, I know it's not the, I know select is not the most useful button,
but it has its purpose.
It has its purposes, which we've now put on the touchpad,
which now there are accidental touchpad actions.
I prefer by the way, I actually way prefer
hitting the touchpad than the select button.
I hate when I accidentally hit the touchpad,
so as long as whatever I'm doing is not crucial,
because that shit sucks.
You know, I'm thinking of when you have a touch the touchpad to reset your training mode position
and then I do a quarter circle a little too fast and I hit the thumb, the touchpad with my thumb.
Okay, I have tiny bitch baby hands, so that's never happened to me once.
Yeah, my tiny nubs that I got here. well, it's real touchpad hours out here.
We accidentally hit that.
So yeah, I think the select button had its uses,
but obviously touchpaded with the ability to like,
use it as a square and highlight things and whatnot,
has a purpose too.
But I also just kinda like, I'm one of those people
that doesn't like the fact
that the D-pad is now an elevated option wheel
as opposed to the means of movement.
Wait, you would prefer the D-pad,
it's like the right way.
Well, it depends on the test of the game.
And a first person shooter,
well anything that you sell.
Through 3D, yeah, I do understand that,
but anything that is 2D or so, I almost always want to default to that type of precision.
Anyways, you want to steal a Tesla?
You don't worry, It's cool now.
I don't want to.
Um, so earlier, this shit just happened right in front of my face while I was on the toilet.
So I just got to bring it up.
Tesla just tweeted out, hey man, look, you can play video games inside your car and said,
quote, play Grand Theft Auto while doing Grand Theft Auto
over a video of a guy in their Tesla. So like yeah okay Tesla says steal their cars.
Do it. Fucking do it Puzzies. Straight from the company's mouth itself.
I love I love I love when the best things are breaking
as we fucking click the button.
Dude, that tweet is gonna be gone in like five minutes.
You know who knows.
Oh man.
Kinda like the chat from Silent Hill.
Look, I came to this party late and I, you came so late. And I'm looking around
at LeRoum on fire. And honestly, I feel so bad for everyone. And I kind of want to apologize.
I don't know what to apologize for. But I just feel like, no, it's just an expression
of pity. It just feels so bad to walk in and look around and go, oh my God, the state of affairs.
So I just want to, so I did not watch Silent Hill Ascension.
Oh my God.
All the Wayne night, I played different horror games.
But for those of you who are unaware, Silent Hill Ascension is a 16-part drama series in which players are supposed to be able to make choices in order to change
the narrative towards certain direction.
And they announced a season pass for this in which you could control, like, have an avatar
that would do nothing.
And then people who were trying to solve puzzles in order to vote and get enough points
to vote were being told that they earned like
15% of the way towards a loot box which might give them an item that let them vote for but don't use the word vote because they're not actually voting
they're purchasing
They're purchasing like lobbying power
But on top of that
But on top of that, it came with a bunch of emotes that you could post in chat. One of which was all rainbow, like Squishmello, text of, it's trauma.
But, and here's where it gets really fun.
The chat had to be disabled within the first show.
The reason why the chat had to be disabled is because it was an open chat
and the only three words that were banned in that chat
if you can guess,
oh, is it some of the classics?
No, it's scam,
Hideo and Kojima are the only words.
and Kojima are the only words.
Otherwise, completely unmoderated. So that went on for a little bit.
And they pulled the whole chat down,
which is a problem because the chat is one of the features
that they sold to you in the season pass.
And then afterwards, they decide,
and you can go look this up,
the dev put it up on their site,
they put up a half hour discussion
with like the CEO and one of the devs
as to why the season pass wasn't a disgusting scam.
In defense of the micro, the minibies, excuse me.
Yes.
So the the the headline I saw was yeah, first silent hill game in 11 years most hated experience of the
Fred. Oh my God. It is. So I would the state of affairs prior to this existing was so better. So, will it?
Willi, I was getting ready this morning to compare this to Slurp Apes.
Right.
I was to NFT shenanigans.
That was going to be like my, like, ah, ah, y'all gotta get your,
get your fucking pyramid head slurped
to get four pyramid heads so you can,
you can vote on the thing.
That's where I was gonna go
until this morning
where all those NFT guys went blind.
Oh yeah, right.
So I don't know if you saw that.
I caught, I caught with, yeah. So I don't know if you saw that.
I got a lot of, yeah.
So at a board eight yacht club party,
they strobe lighted some wild UV shit
and a bunch of people got major eye damage
as a result of that.
Yeah, so apparently the guy who set up the lights
used a medical grade sterilization UV lights
instead of strobe lights and it's
functionally identical to staring at the sun. So a lot of these guys were
staring at the sun for hours and are blind now. I just I like some I don't I don't
know if it's real or not but what I saw was a tweet of someone describing that
they spent all their money on their their ape apes so they don't have the, they can't afford the medical bill for their eyes. I don't, I don't know.
So, but anyway, so my deal takeaway with Silent Hill Ascension is that there, my, my
own, my review of Silent Hill Ascension, the thing I didn't watch is that I don't think
it made anyone go blind.
Now, the thing with the resurrection to further shit
on the bones of the corpse of the franchise that you love
is that everything on paper about the description of what this is
is pretty fucking heinous, right? The idea of the
tune in to spend money on the, yeah, on the pre-rendered cutscene and then spend extra to
out to change the outcome shit and all that not, it's not a game, it's not a game, right?
It's literally just that we're gonna fucking scam you. But there's always that part where it's like,
okay, now what if within this insane scam setup,
the content was actually good, right?
There's always a world where it's like,
oh, but the story they were telling was actually like,
oh, it's complicated.
Oh, it's a compelling story,
but it's just, you'll have, you'll have, you know,
defendors.
Or like there's, or perhaps it's like a, a, a, a staff and writer and creative team did a good job on, on creating a
story and then it was put into the worst possible means of, sure, of, of, of, of a medium to, to put
out there. Yeah. But, um, I think one of the first things I saw was like in that, um, live,
in that livestream, defense of the micro transactions,
they were talking about like the 16 episode arc or whatever,
and how it's a slow burn is a description that was used.
And meanwhile, the first episode apparently has three monster attacks
in the first half hour.
So it's just like, it's also one of these things
that it's not, it can't possibly be that
if it's also trying to get a chat to freak out
and go like, oh, you are, you like turn this character
into the murderer and have all these things
to spend their points on in every, every 10 minutes.
How could it possibly be an actual story
that takes the time to, you
know, make you care about any of the characters, right?
I was talking about this. And like, Silent Hill 2 came out, and like, while it may be a little,
it might be a little primitive today by some standards, like it was groundbreaking in terms
of narrative design for a game, and it's attention to detail way back in the day. And I feel like media literacy
has improved 0% since then, like what's Silent Hill about? Well, it's about finding out why pyramid
head really was pyramid head. It's about going back to the origin story
and finding out how pyramid head became.
Oh, God.
Can you just point, just tap the sign,
that's tap the sign, which is the creator of the artist,
just being like, I wish I never fucking made this character.
You could do a 90 minute media literacy class on just pH and like on the ways that he has been misunderstood. And it's like you've played some hill too.
Pyramid heads like existence is actually really simple.
James feels guilty and he saw a picture of a civil war executioner with a funky helmet one time when he went to the museum that punished prisoners.
Buh-buh-buh-buh!
Mm-hmm.
Evil magic man.
Mm-hmm.
That's it! That's it! That's the whole thing! But the problem is popularity and then the response to the popularity and not getting
that it matters why that thing exists and why that thing exists is a part of why people
fucking dig it.
So you have a mascot, but you get a mascot.
You're supposed to screenshot of the podcast clip with us looking sad over a picture of Harbinger going don't explain
the unknowable.
Right, right.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, actually.
And I'm playing Alan Wake right now.
The first line of dialogue in Alan Wake is it's like the tendency of people is to ask for the explanation to horror,
but explanation is like death to the poetry of fear.
Like that's pretty good.
That guy's actually a mutants escaped whatever.
No, you know what's scary?
What is that?
I don't know.
It's some fucking red pyramid thing.
That's the character.
The character's name isn't even pyramid head. The character's actual name is red pyramid thing. That's the character, the character's name isn't even pyramid
head. The character's actual name is red pyramid thing. People just started calling it pyramid
head. And then, right, part two is like when thing becomes a success or when thing becomes
a big hit, like resisting the urge to create a Mickey Mouse out of what you have here, you know, or if you're going to Mickey Mouse it,
at least let it be relevant so that it's like this is the character it comes from and the thing that it's associated with, you know.
And in fact, like anyone who is like half a fucking decent writer would probably be able to like, well you know what, I haven't played
the future Silent Hill games a bunch, I can tell you, I've tested and worked on some
and I have my, you know, but like, yeah, that's slightly different.
But like, the way the permit had exists is if you really need to fucking just, you know,
go back to the same well, a template for other characters and their own trauma to create things like that.
You know what I mean?
You could have similar, it's not pyramid head,
but it's this person's trauma monster version here thing
existing, and it would be, again,
it's just you're going back to the same well on it,
but it would at least be less of a destruction
of what this one thing was supposed to mean
in this one character's context.
He was the worst part of what that whole thing you just said.
The early on you said Mickey Mouse, right?
Silent Hill has a Mickey Mouse.
It's Robbie the rabbit.
Oh yeah, sure right right like like the character that you could use for all of this explicit shit
Already exists and is in silent Hill 3 and 4 right
You could have done it
And it's a no not that one
And it's a no not that one.
Also down poor had its own trauma monster.
Trauma monster.
Do you know what it was?
No.
It was off brand pyramid head.
Okay.
And um, Sanjo origins also had its own trauma monster. Do you know what it was?
What?
A different off brand pyramid head.
Well, there you go.
There you go. There you go.
Right.
Yeah.
Like even within the series,
yeah, like as soon as the games got given to not that core
group of team silent, every single monster became,
well, what if it was Lauren Perley?
We're going to go. The problem is the word iconic, what if it was Lauren Perl? We're gonna go.
The problem is the word iconic, right?
Like the moment it becomes iconic,
it's just, it's inescapable.
And in this particular instance, you have,
yeah, this is episode one, right?
Week one of 16.
So like you've committed to the slow burn, so to speak, but maybe not.
We're gonna have 16 weeks of developer argument slash apologies.
Maybe not a slow burn in the way that they intended, you know. Yeah, it's kind of like the
opposite of you know how like JoJo like got kind of ruined by the the the binge drop for the
latest part for part six.
And before it was cooler when you'd have every week, you could like come in and get excited
about the latest thing. This is what this is the opposite now. It's like, what if you
want to take the duster fire and stretch that shit out? Well, a couple of months so that
you really get to ramp up, you know, I have a question for you. Um,
get to ramp up, you know? I have a question for you. They have to stretch it out because if they don't stretch it out, then people's choices aren't going to be able to manifest
in the show because you know, you got to make the choices. But then I'm like, wait a second. This shows completely prerecorded already.
So even a rough count of permutations leads
into the thousands.
So that means every episode has to diamond itself
to end at the same part that the next episode starts at, right?
Or also it would become totally unmanageable within like three weeks.
The choice. So how much can anyone possibly affect this?
The choices, uh, uh, uh,
mattering can only matter to the point that the end is on the same note.
Perhaps I don't, I don't imagine they created a, you know, like path A, path A, path B, B, B, B,
B, we're like, yeah, we're not watching the fucking real experience of 999 or Virtue's
last reward here.
Yeah, yeah.
So, yeah, I mean, I guess we'll see, but either way, like, I just, I feel really bad.
Like that's crazy to have the, again,
the first entry in 11 plus years be considered the worst.
I mean, well, don't worry.
I still here comes Silent Hill to remake.
Right, right, right.
Like I'm saying that, right? And I'm like, I still enjoyed some Silent Hill to remake. Right, right, right. Like I'm saying that, right?
And I'm like, I still enjoyed some of the cool parts
of the gameplay in Bayonetta 3.
I still had some fun with some parts of that, you know?
Like as much as it was a long way into my least favorite
of that franchise, there was stuff that I did enjoy.
A lot of it was borrowed from Devil May Cry,
but nonetheless, there was stuff that I did enjoy. A lot of it was borrowed from Devil May Cry, but nonetheless, there was stuff.
You know, yeah.
Yikers.
Well anyway.
Yeah, I had a short week.
What up, man?
So I finished Pluto.
Fantastic. How is it?
Yeah, so just wrapping that up and strong,
whenever you have a murder mystery,
there's always the like,
are you gonna solve the mystery at the last second
or are you gonna solve it
before that and then-
And then it's gonna be about chasing that guy.
And then there's a chase or whatever, right?
And yeah, what they do here is really fun
and like spends, it's interesting
because like, the mystery, well anyway,
without getting into like the how they handle the mystery and stuff,
I think it's like, it becomes less about that
and more about the themes and questions
that they introduce early on.
They really start coming back to Hammer them home later on.
There is definitely, so when I first brought it up,
I was saying, yeah, so far, so good,
I watched four episodes and I was like,
this is fucking awesome.
I'm gonna say that eight episodes finishing that off.
It's a fucking masterpiece.
The back half of that,
like I'm gonna go from saying,
I suggest you like check out the Astro Boy,
just like brief wiki synopsis of like the Who's Who's
and what not.
And I'm gonna say like you should definitely,
it's definitely a good idea, like to know.
So this is kind of where it kind of falls apart
because I know like what, how do I know how much to check?
Yeah, I honestly like, that's because that's always like, I feel like I'm playing mind sweeper when I do this. Yeah, I honestly like that's because that's always like I feel like I'm playing
mind sweeper when I do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, I mean, if I had to take a
care. Oh, hey, this character, I don't know who he is. I bet he's a character of the thing.
Oh, he's the villain. Great. Thanks. I'm glad I read that. So it's not necessarily like that per se, but it's, I think, I think like, if you just don't
know anything about Astro Boy, you could probably just read like almost like the wiki, like basic summary.
Yeah, you could read the basic plot, like summary of like what the thing is,
and then just go off of that, you know, not even going into the like the specific character,
like history or whatever,
but I'm talking about general wiki plot synopsis.
But what I think is cool is, I guess, if you happen to feel curious about a name you hear
in the show as you're going through it, like you can go like and just be like,
oh yeah, what's this person's original version like
and just kind of scan that and be like,
oh, okay.
I guess that's one way to perhaps do it, you know?
You know what I'm gonna do?
I'm gonna watch it and not do that.
Okay, that's fine.
That's fine.
And then I will come back and give my thoughts on it.
Because like my main issue is that when I feel like
the only issue I'm worried about is that if I am watching it
and they are constantly referring to something
that they expect me to know and I don't know
and then I get confused, but I don't think that would...
I'm doing a bad job putting this thought together.
Give me a second.
The show is excellent even if you don't know
at anything about the previous subject matter.
The things that I like are,
it's cool to see like, oh, you took this thing
and this is what you did with it.
And I was like, oh, that's a cool thing to do there, right?
But doesn't that go the other way too?
It does.
Can't you just do that in reverse?
You can, you can.
Yes.
So like if you are like, oh, after the fact you want to go
see what that was, yeah, yeah, that works too, definitely.
I think, yeah, I guess so.
I guess I'm like thinking about how like for me,
I knew some of the basis of Astro Boy,
but there's like some finer details I didn't know.
So for me, some stuff I recognized on the way,
and some stuff I checked afterwards,
and in both cases, it was pretty satisfying.
When it happened to do, when something happened
that I did recognize, I was like,
oh, fuck, that's super sick,
and I got really excited while I was watching it.
So I guess I'm just trying to convey, like,
I really enjoyed those moments.
But so I'm going to use a fairly obscure example
to try and see if we can dig into the slightly deeper.
So and there's a, there's, I don't know if you remember
the horror game, Siren.
I remember, yeah.
Okay. So they put out Siren and then later they put out Siren too,
which I don't think came out in the US.
And then they later came out and put out something called
siren blood curse, which was just a remake
of the first siren, but like a million times better
because of Psalm PS3 and they put more time
and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
In the original siren, there's a part where
girls trying to get away from some guy,
and he turns his back and she picks up like a log
or like a plank of wood and just rocks his fucking shit.
Just knocks him the fuck out, blast him to the face, right?
And so when you're getting up to that moment in,
sorry, and blood curse,
she picks up like a fucking twig
that's like a centimeter across,
and it like just harmlessly bounces off his fucking head.
Okay.
And the shot kind of stops,
and he goes, what are you doing?
Right.
And then the scene diverges where he drags her off.
Knowing what that moment was supposed to be.
Yeah.
What the fuck?
Why did she think that twig was gonna take him out?
Right, right, right.
And then I went back and looked at the cutscene from Siren
and was like, oh, that moment was doing a little goof.
Yeah, is it like that?
Uh, it's not, it's not like that where the whole bit
does it make sense unless you were expecting A and you got B.
Okay.
It's not that, right?
Um, it's more like more like the, everything is complete and works.
And you might just be like, that's an unanswered question.
What was the deal with that?
Or what was the, where did that come from?
Or what was the point of that?
And those are more of the things where it's like,
it could just be stuff that you can see as it's
like outside the scope of what the story is focusing on but there are some characters that are like
that's a character that is an interpretation of this you know. And it's funny. Sorry, after you. I'll sit with that. Yeah. And then there were like one or two of those where just like just seeing a name
that I recognized, I was like, oh, fuck.
Right.
That's an important thing, you know, and then like it doesn't, it
ultimately, like, you can definitely enjoy it without it.
Yeah, I don't, I don't want to, I don't wanna, I don't wanna,
like, you know, say that this is,
because my main thing is that I've like,
I've done the thing where I'm like,
oh, I really wanna learn more about this character
from this adaptation and I click on the thing
and it like the very first thing I see
in the like fucking attributations on the side
is like life, death, the, am I, oh.
Like, like going and doing research on something
that I'm not completely done with.
Yeah, you know, no, no, you're in my fucking face.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right on that.
And like as well, like I think, yeah, no, fair enough.
I think I'm just, yeah, all I'm trying to say is I like,
I really enjoyed the parts that I was like,
oh, that's the reinterpretation of that concept or that idea that or that character. That's like right now, but
I'm running into the issue that you probably run into sometimes where I'm dodging spoiler
YouTube videos as the recommended videos on my videos
videos on my videos. Oh, popping up.
The game that I'm playing.
You're like, no.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So in any case, it's fucking great
and you should just check it out.
But that's it.
It's more just like there's definitely a feeling of like,
if you go into this, and this is not just talking to you,
this is talking to the audience.
Like if you go into this and you're like afterwards,
you're like, oh, like, what was this or what was that?
You can go see what Astro Boy was doing.
Specifically, too, it was helpful,
is there's actually an arc that was adapted.
The real interesting bit is not just the general stuff
from the franchise, but the specific arc that was adapted to become
this because obviously it takes it and it goes places that are completely different, but
you know, the base players are all there, you know.
It's Pluto like somewhere in, like it's not the start of Astro Boy, it's like somewhere
in the middle of Astro Boy, yes.
Exactly.
And but it also grabs other arcs that are different, things that happen in different Astro
Boy arcs or different like re, tellings of the show, like there's a little bit of the 2003
bit in there, there's a little bit of some of the other different things
and they kind of bring it all together
to just kind of be like almost like a little best of,
you know, with the Ursula style,
the storytelling.
What's of course really great is,
yeah, exploring everything that is anything asimov, robot-related,
any, the idea of robots and their ability to emulate humanity and all the other robots.
I think they're cool.
I think we can be friends.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
And this thing to this, what's fun about this is like it subscribes to a particular,
there's a particular type of show that gets about robots that like, excuse me,
this reminds me of like, you know, cash earn? Yes. So this is like cash earn, right, where it's like
Yes, so this is like cash earn right where it's like there will be cuts to
Violent parts of robot on the ground ripped to pieces and it's like almost it's supposed to be read for Gore and
Yeah, for everyone who is a robot that is Gore
So the reactions are all perfectly appropriate if you are a robot seeing a body rip to shreds in front of you You know, but you are ultimately looking at a bunch of smashed parts and
And but buckets and bolts, you know, but like the way it's but it's played dead serious and you need to like in this world
Just be like yeah, that's that is a horrific thing because that thing had agency, you know?
The way Cashron rips apart robots is like,
and guts them and disembowels them,
is so violent, you know, when you see the oil splatter.
But it's robot parts.
Like, he jumps on top of the head and capitates it,
and it's like, it's different, man.
It's just robots.
You know, but like, it's the same thing
that you would see in an old 90s cartoon
with the Ninja Turtles cutting through the fucking,
you know, the, the, the, the Cranbots and shit.
But it's just here like, it's,
but it's played for the emotional weight
of what it represents.
And, and, you know, you gotta buy into that from day one.
Samurai Jack as well, definitely.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Very, very good.
And like, yeah, and a really cool way to like,
again, I keep saying Astro Boy,
but like he's not the main character, you know?
Astro Boy is there.
Astro Boy is there.
And he's important and he's relevant, but it's not about Astro Boy, you know.
And that thing I said last time about the camera, like looking over here is like that stays true, you know.
There's there's there's Astro Boy walking into the frame from the, you know,
like, oh, over here is the bright and shiny moment. And over down here is the
dank shit. Astro Boy peeps down here for a minute and goes like, what the fuck? Oh,
God, what's happening down here? Oh, no. You know, and everyone down there's like,
yeah, yeah, it's pretty shitty down here, isn't it? You know, but it's ultimately not about Astro Boy and and I yeah, I just couldn't recommend it enough
I'm gonna watch that yeah do it do it
You know, it's it's funny because you're you're talking about this
this
Incredibly like the dragging of a unrelated arc from the middle of something and be like,
now it's its own thing.
And all this discussion about whether or not you should be more familiar with Asteroid
and all that is fascinating because I'm playing through Alan Wake again and American Nightmare
and I played through control to like, oh, because I'm gonna play Alan Wake, again, and American Nightmare, and I played through control to like,
oh, cause I'm gonna play Alan Wake too.
And, you know, that is probably important to know.
And I've spoken to some people about it, including Gene,
and the overwhelming consensus is that Alan Wake
expects you to have beaten Alan Wake one last week.
Right, right, right.
Yeah, you mentioned it.
Not in 2010. Yeah. Yeah. Like they, they expect it to be fresh in your mind.
Like you just beat it and went right into the second one.
And that is weird. Games don't do that anymore. Like, this that game could have 13 years ago.
like this that game came out 13 years ago
That is doesn't offer you a what happened last time video at any point. I don't know I haven't gotten there yet Okay, I don't think it does okay, okay
There's yeah like you know Shenmue and then zone of the enders, you know, it's like all right
I'm being told that it also expects you to have beaten control and its DLC also.
Right. Right.
That's great.
Yeah. So anyways, no.
Just robots just want to be left alone, man.
Big feels.
No. Big, big, big.
Robots exist for the subservience of man.
That doesn't mean we can't be friends, but they have to know their place.'re not real people right right right right right that that always works out that always works out perfectly
Nothing that has ever happened from that exact well, I mean in reality. Yeah, actually nothing that has ever happened from that mentality
but like
You know you know, you know,
they're just robots, they're not real.
I made them out of PVC parts in my backyard.
I think the, the part that like every one of these stories
whether it's the gath or whether it's the matrix
or you know, or any of these, again, like your post-asimov story, robot storytelling.
The thing you, the thing that's always considered is the idea of like the individual,
the importance of the individuality and then what it means if that can be copied indefinitely,
and then what it means if that can be copied indefinitely, right? Does that decrease the value in any way, shape or form, or how you handle that aspect of it?
Where like you can in theory just have an infinity of an individual, you know?
Well, to be more serious now, I have a baby, and I pick up the baby and I look at the baby,
and the baby is me, and I'm like, that's literally,
I mean, you saw me and me and Wully and Bunchmom
and Paige hung out for a little bit before the podcast,
and I'm like, look at the baby, that's just me, I made that.
Yes. Right?
But a robot is not just me, that's made out of garbage from the earth.
But it can be, not with that attitude,
but it certainly can be definitely more you
if you push it to be.
And the more you push the baby to be you,
the more it's not gonna be you,
which is the mistake of bunching.
Baby, baby, baby, great.
Yeah.
So you look at it and you see you,
but then there's a point where you've got to realize
that eight.
Okay.
You know what?
You know what?
Fine.
Fine.
Robots, solid fucking things.
For real people.
Robots can pretend to be real people once somebody nutting is vital to their creation.
If you can't build a robot without a nut, I think the entirety of the
middle gear solid franchise is all about the fact that actually that baby is not you,
no matter what the genetics say, or no matter how the, what the environment is, no matter how you try to replicate. Nate was born of a nut.
Yeah, actually, no, he wasn't. I mean, he was born of a of a cell.
They stole the DNA was a whole thing.
Well, does the act of a syringe piercing and and shooting?
I don't know, this is getting complicated.
Anyway, is that is that a?
Yeah, is that really if the sir,
I don't know, this is getting complicated. Anyway, is that a, is that a, is that a,
Wully, if the sir,
Wully, if you want, hey,
if you want a delvin to the real biomechanics
of baby versus robot,
then there's only one work of fiction
that I can recommend to you right now.
And that, as we all know, is binary domain.
Really?
I thought you were gonna say
Captain Commando, where baby commando pilots is a baby piloting a robot. No, I actually mean binary domain. Really? I thought you were going to say Captain Commando where baby commando pilots is a baby piloting a robot.
No, I actually mean binary domain.
It's actually incredibly relevant to this exact conversation.
Fair enough.
Although I did.
If a robot could not, is that a real baby?
Is a question binary domain asks?
So is that not though, like essentially, like an incubator that just happens to be alive
and walking around?
I don't know what you're referring to.
Okay.
Like is the is the roberth and are you talking about women?
Is the... Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha If I took a baby in an incubator and put googly eyes on it, is that a binary domain robot?
No.
Okay.
All right.
It's important to define these things.
All right.
Anyways.
I played last week, sl, Slay the Princess.
So I heard.
Yes.
And, uh, that is...
I have second-hand knowledge of Slay the Princess from two places now.
Yeah.
Uh, Peach went through that as well.
Yes.
And, uh, the, uh, Slay the Princess. Yeah, I brought it up a little bit last week, but it's a visual novel.
Um, that is, you know, it's, it's really just a of the outcome of the world and what happens.
And then it's actually set up in a way that's similar to the zero-scape games where if you just keep going through it,
you can pick the routes and fast forward to new content, new text, and eventually see multiple endings to get to your true ending and stuff. Very cool, very fun. I like the Stanley Parable vibes of it, where from the outset you are
set up in opposition to your narrator because the fourth wall is broken and you're
talking to and answering and the witty banter back and forth is challenging, you know, the
the player from before you from the moment you press the start button really, which leads
to some wild shit where the way I play things, I'm just like yo, what can I do here?
Let me stretch the limits of what's possible. Let me see what I what the game's premise is like
Hey, it's like ghostly the princess. She's right over there, and I'm like
Let me let me see how far I can stretch this and within my first run. I end up with like the
Complete do nothing fuck this. I'm out of here
route which is an ending followed
immediately by the extreme compliance route which is also a strict
forward path ending and then like through a series of twists and turns.
Like the true true ending?
Like...
Not the true true true ending, but the true true ending.
But the double true ending.
The pretty good true ending.
Yes, the true true ending, like immediately unfolding.
And me seeing what this game is actually about within seconds of starting it going,
oh shit, okay, okay, okay, right. And that was, that was, I was actually pretty cool.
I like play that. Yeah, I liked it because it was probably not the way it was meant to happen,
but it did work in that it gave me a greater context for what I was doing in a way that was like, okay, well
Now that I see what you're doing here, I have I'm going to appreciate
some of the other aspects, you know sooner than I otherwise would have right
There's a fun element as well, which is the
There's a fun element as well, which is the, when you do go through a particular path or run, you know, of which there are many different ways to go, you are joined by a disco
elisium-esque ghost of your previous run.
Oh, seriously?
That is there to, like, chime in.
Oh, that's cool as fuck. And the attitude you took on the previous run
is going to be there as a party member effectively.
No, man, not chill or get her now.
Yeah, yeah.
The energy you brought last time is there.
You know, like if you watch your super meat boy run
and you see the ghost of the past run,
that's super cool.
In a visual novel context. Every time see the ghost of the past run,
that's super cool.
In a visual novel context.
Every time I'm thinking of like, man, I should,
I remember Paige was streaming it,
and I hopped in to be like,
hey honey, how's it going?
Baby's doing great.
And she's like, get out of here now.
And I'm like, oh, it's that good, huh?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, like I and so each time so by,
by you know, trying to see like what the, you know, like if you're testing the waters, the
game's like, by all means, test the waters. And then now you get the the character that is like,
okay, you want to be that? All right, cool. Here you go. This go. This voice of the content creator has joined.
No, you know, yeah, voice of the the the the fucking YouTuber of the gamer and the
meme is now a part of this and is going to chime in to say what they want to say.
It's a particularly fun aspect of it as well
that makes you definitely want to go on
and try it a bit more.
It also is pretty fun with the art style as well.
Like it's, you know, it's a pencil, right?
Deliberately pencil style sketch, you know,
napkin, ask sometimes what it wants to be.
And I think that was all, like,
that was a really good way of like making it
so that the artist could definitely
do a whole bunch of iterations and variant paths
while keeping it affordable and, you know,
like making it something that can actually come out
because getting stuck in the fucking art pipeline hell
is the way things like this can die.
And it makes good use of it, you know.
And again, there's times when it's like
the abstract nature of the way the story is told
sometimes calls for the details to get super detailed
and sometimes it calls for it to be like fucking napkin shit,
you know.
So it plays with that really well.
And yeah, it's a quick experience. You know, you can do it it plays with that really well. And yeah, it's a pretty, it's a quick
experience, you know, so you can do it in a single setting for sure, single setting, excuse
me. But definitely a fun experimental visual novel and the concepts and the humor are good.
I might, my regret I suppose is that like, you kind of, you're wandering around and you're
trying shit out, you never know what you're gonna get.
So you can hit the credits and beat it
and not see every possible permutation, of course.
Right, right.
But you do definitely get a bunch of them, you know?
And amongst some of those permutations,
I've been informed that there are some
that are just the most woolly bait pathways to go.
Oh, yeah.
And I got like a hint of that with one of them, but I kind of, I guess I just didn't make
the picks that would light line up with, you know, the outcome that suited for my taste.
But the voice actor showed up as well.
She was in the chat.
Oh, cool.
The name escapes me right now, but that was fun too.
And yeah, it's a, it's a, I recommend it.
It's a short and sweet.
Nicole, good night.
Thank you.
Yeah, slay the princess. It was a lot of fun.
So that's coming out over on the channel.
And this week going to be, yeah, so we're going to be releasing that as well as I played
some more on record 6, that's continuing too.
And I'm going to be streaming.
Some more FF9 is that continues.
There's the open beta for Grand Blue Fantasy versus Rising. I think I got all those words correct.
So I'm going to check that out.
Oh, that's such a mouthful.
Yeah.
You didn't get a chance with the previous one.
So if I can get into the open beta here and give it a shot,
we're going to do that.
And yeah, I'm also, there's two things I want to take a look at this week.
So one, Super Mario wonders out and I hear it's fucking incredible.
It's good.
I hear really good things about it.
So we're going to be good.
It's very good.
Gonna stream that.
And another, Anna Perna, straight to Wollies Brain platform style game called Thirsty
Suitors is also out.
And this is just a very cool visually exciting stylistic game that, yeah, I saw the trailer
and it seems to be like some Scott Pilgrim energy of like go fight your your shitty
X's and it mixes up in mixes in skateboarding RPG turn based battles cooking
battles all kinds of wild shit going on. I don't know what's happening but it
looks looks fun. So we're gonna take yeah disappoint your parents as well as a
part of the tagline there. So thirstyors. I'm gonna check that out this week and see what's going on
I
You know like if there's anything to go off of which is the the the the cyan hour wildhards vibe that I fucking love
I'm it has all my attention and I'm getting a little bit of that here. So
Yeah, that's coming up this week on
Willy versus on Twitch and on YouTube
All right, let's see what is Pat do this week. Okay. Well, I beat Alan Wake. It's good. It's still good
Nothing more to say
I also played a very short horror game on
Halloween I played a game short horror game on Halloween.
I played a game called, it might be one of my favorite titles
for a game I've ever seen.
It's called No One Lives Under the Lighthouse.
Right, you mentioned, yeah, good name.
Um, and it is a game about how you are going to go maintain
a lighthouse for a week or two
because the previous lighthouse keeper disappeared.
And you are informed that no one lives under the lighthouse.
The game is about two hours long.
It takes place over a course of five or six or seven days, depending. And it includes you going to your shit house,
hovel, cleaning up and fixing your little cross and, you know,
sweeping your horrible little hut and cleaning the glass on the lighthouse.
So it's like far away.
I'm sure that the lighthouse has enough oil.
And you know, and then a bunch of weird,
weird fucking shit starts to happen,
which seems to conflict with the title of the game being
that no one lives under the lighthouse.
It is also one of those games that's going for a highly, highly, highly specific visual
style, which is the store page for don't enter the light.
Sorry, no one lives under the lighthouse is actually like a little story instead of a store
page.
Cool. It is like a little narrative about how you were going
through your old things and found some weird Jank CD
from the early Outs or the late 90s called No One Lives
Under the Lighthouse.
And this is a retro style.
Yeah, this is a loaded with our page.
Is like the fake manual.
Uh huh.
And then you get in and the game is like,
I think it like tops out at like 300 P.
Like it is so crunchy.
It is so, so crunchy.
Like it is, it is crunchy to the point
where things
in the like more than 20 feet away from you
are just completely, completely unrecognizable
as items.
Interesting.
It is great.
It is fucking great.
It has a bunch of different endings,
including the one where you have to do everything just right.
But the way that it actually tracks that
is it doesn't want you to have to do it over save points.
It goes, listen, in order to get the real thing,
get these achievements.
Okay.
And there's something that will tell you,
you need this achievement, this achievement,
this achievement, this achievement.
Two hours for each run.
And then... Oh no, two hours, maybe achievement. Two hours for each run, and then...
Oh no, two hours, maybe two and a half for the first run.
Okay.
After that, you're able to level skip to any part of any day.
Oh wow, okay, okay.
And subsequent runs go anywhere from like 40 minutes to like 10.
Cool.
It's fucking great.
It's fucking fantastic. Lots of gas and
ah, like, oh, very good, very scary. And it yeah, no one lives under the
lighthouse. It's great. It's great. A good title, a good title sets things up
well. I also played a game on that Halloween called El Paso elsewhere, which seemed to fit with
the Alan Wake Max Payne thing.
It's Max Payne, but with vampires and werewolves.
With everything that that would include, it has an incredibly similar narrative style to Max Payne with lots and lots of long dry metaphor, like monologues, done by the main developer
who is great, he is a great voice actor because he is killing it.
When it came up last time, a lot of one-liner style things were happening where I'm like,
okay, it's a game where it's all about the delivery
Yeah, like the the it is also has a great soundtrack also by the main dev
um And it is it's Max Payne one and two in hell
Like your primary method of defense is shoot dodging
Like you hit the left trigger to dive in any direction
and it goes into the slow mo
and then you shoot vampires and werewolves in the face.
And you're constantly popping painkillers to dull the pain.
Like it's that, it's great.
It's straight up, yeah.
It's overt.
Neo noir, that's the word. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah's overt. Neo-noir, that's the word.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
It's like the soundtrack is somewhat cringed,
but also fantastic.
And like I did not realize it,
but people in my chat were asking me why I was shooting
on beat and if that was intentional.
It was not intentional. It was not intentional. Nice.
It just feels right to do to shoot on beat.
It's great.
Yeah, man, both of those games were so great.
I'm so sad I missed Silent Hill ascension.
I'm so sad.
I could have watched Silent Hill ascension instead.
But I didn't.
What a fake fan.
Don't.
If you weren't even a we're not we're not you were there in the chat.
To get if you didn't get your fucking the Chivo for for being there in the chat live on day one.
Are you even a fan?
Like we're at the point with the Silent Hill franchise that in order to be a real fan,
you have to like burn new merchandise or some shit like it is.
Yeah, it's not good. But yeah, no, that's that's pretty much what I played this week. Okay.
You should, if you like either horror games or shooting games, you should definitely check out
no one lives in the lighthouse or El Paso elsewhere.
They're both fantastic.
Okay.
Oh wait, I forgot.
Silent and silent.
Fucking shit.
Burying in my fucking brain.
Star Ocean, the second story,
R came out this week.
Oh.
How's that? Do you have any familiarity with star ocean or star ocean too?
I have familiarity with the emotional arc and then the subsequent. So those of you who don't know,
there might be some disagreement in, but Star Ocean has six games.
There is one good one, and it's two, and it came out in the 90s.
The thing is about Star Ocean 2 is that it's like one of the best PlayStation 1 RPGs to
ever come out, which is quite a claim.
It's incredible,
but it was a PS1 and a PSP game
and it looked like a complete dog shit.
Then they decided to hit it with the,
like eight, I think we're calling the HD2D style
in which you have old-fashioned sprites
with like modern effects and 3D graphics.
We saw that with Octopath 1 and 2 and Live Alive.
This is easily the best looking of all of those HD2D games. It looks fucking incredible.
Like it is visually gorgeous, but it still looks like it was like built off of a PS1 game.
Like there's a weird, I don't know,
so there's a weird roundness to the CG backdrop buildings
of PlayStation 1 games,
where because it was a pre-rendered backdrop,
they were like, oh, we can make all these rounded edges
on them because we don't have to render it.
It's great.
Was Star Ocean, like, in terms of release date,
was this was like Star Ocean and Suicote and Invagrant story
and like seven and all that, was all that in like a two or three year period.
Yes.
It was one of the, it's another one of those things, right?
Where PS1 classic RPGs are all just like fucking other.
Back the back.
Back the back came out.
Bangers later.
Okay.
And the Saga fun series and a wild on this star ocean too.
Yeah, okay.
Okay.
Um, second.
I don't want the the remake
God, I remember that it came at what I think was 98 who is July 30th 98
Of course it was of course it was so when your planes you know players and fucking FF8 came out like right there. Yeah
Like I think I think this year like it's what, it's very clear looking at this type of, every
time we put we go back and realize how close together a lot of these classics were, it's
like no one was able to consume all of them when they came out.
Everyone had to get into and figure out that they were good through word of mouth over
the course of the decade following, as each friend would be like,
I played that, that, and this over, one over here,
borrow this, and then you can play the ones I didn't play.
And then you find out over the course of a decade
while you catch back up.
There's not too much going on, man.
It sucks for Star Ocean's second story
because it came out in 1998,
and it looks like shit compared to like,
a frequent story and Final Fantasy VII and eight,
and all that.
Like, it looks like garbage, like visually, graphically.
Like, it just couldn't possibly compete.
The main thing that Star Ocean 2 had,
and Star Ocean 1 had it, but who cares about that?
The main thing that Star Ocean 1,
sorry, that, fuck!
I don't know what's wrong with me today. The main thing that Starish and One, it's all right, that fuck! I don't what's wrong with me today.
The main thing about Starish and Two is that,
it is a, it's kinda like tales,
and that it's like RPG-like action combat,
like you get in a random battle,
and then you, you have your little dudes run around,
and you hit people with the attack button,
that kinda thing.
Play's really well, but on top of that,
it has like an absolutely cracked out skill
system for crazy people. So everyone in your party can learn how to craft items, customize
items, write books, play music, create portraits, pick pocket people, make contraband items, all sorts of shit like that, which leads to
a system in which everybody in your team learns how to play music so that you can run super
orchestra so that when Ashton writes his memoirs, he can then sell his rare book to an inn, and then the inn will start paying
him royalties for the remainder of the game off of his book, or he can write a different
more romantic book and trade that to a party member, which will increase their affection
for him, which goes into the like, ending system.
Yeah.
Insane subsystems.
That's fucking sick.
If you use, oh god, I probably have this wrong, but if you use a combination of crafting
skills, you can get a set pool of random items that you can then save, scum into crafting
on a special sword that you can steal off one of your party members in town.
And then you can run that twice in order to make the final weapon for the main
character by like the third town.
Okay, because why not?
Like just absolutely stupid, stupid shit in depth thing.
Like I was looking it up and like, oh, if you use contraband,
you can make a secret bank account for your characters
that lowers the prices of all the items in the game.
Is a lot of this stuff like crazy shit people found
after the fact or is it stuff that as you're going through it,
you are seeing the possibilities open up.
No, it just dumps the whole system on you.
Okay, okay.
It just goes, fuck, here's how skills work, do it.
Because again, the older the game,
the more it's like when there is shit like that,
it was only discovered later, you know,
as opposed to just following the game by the way.
Like I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I made a tweet
that like turned people off of it,
which I think is kind of incredible,
or is like, hey, what food item can the party cook with master chef that nullifies
reputation loss from pickpocketing
Yeah, okay, I mean that sounds
That's a lot that's for a particular type of person, but it also sounds insanely optional
Like that it dude
So when I was like the most ignorable feature I've ever heard so
I'm gonna when I was a child and I was playing this game for the first time. I've never beaten star ocean two and
I've never been it's weird. I played it a ton and they're, oh, you know, I'll go into it.
There's two playable characters that you start as.
Claude or Reina.
And the differences between the two
are unique party members, unique starting skills,
unique story beats, unique personal actions.
What's personal actions?
Oh, every town that you go to in the game,
you can hit square and the party will split up.
And every party member will go to a separate part
and have their own little story thing that you can go to
and hang out with them like a social link.
Yeah, we're doing it.
But some of those are traps because if you go to the one
where Claude over
here's two characters talking shit about him and listen in your friendship goes down no matter what.
Oh no. So don't do that one. And oh wait, there's personal actions that happen in the first town
when you're at the end of the game. How would you know that? You wouldn't. You'd miss it unless
you're crazy. And you'd go back and do it right?
Okay, so when I was playing the game for the first time when I was a child I
Got all the way to the final boss all the way to the final boss and I had read on game facts
That hey, you know if you go to the final boss and you leave and talk to this guy
You can unlock the super dungeon
And then you can go keep playing in the
super dungeon, get all sorts of crazy stuff.
So I did that, and I went and hung out with the super dungeon for a while, and I couldn't
beat it.
It's very hard, right?
And so then I went to go fight the final boss, and couldn't beat it.
The final boss beat me into dirt, like no other RPG boss I've ever played in, ever. Only for me to find out this week
that if you do that, the final boss gets 10 times
the amount of stats
so that by the end of the Super Dungeon.
You level up to still have a challenge.
A final boss.
You still, yeah, because you get powered up from the experience
Damn, and I'm like, oh my god, that's why I couldn't be a child. Okay, so by peaking in by peaking into the super boss
You you just yeah, okay
That's crazy
Like that sounds that sounds like a,
that's a wild way to solve that problem.
The other way is to just make enemies scale
with your strength, but that shit sucks.
So, yeah, okay.
Wow.
Overall.
It is a golden jewel of a PlayStation 1 RPG,
but on top of a PlayStation 1 RPG,
but on top of that, like genuinely, the re-release that they've done for it is lavish
in its adoration.
So it is beaming with, oh man,
the people who worked on this are in love with this.
So step one, full voice acting, English and Japanese.
Step two, full voice acting by the different batch
of actors that did the Japanese voice acting
for the PSP release.
That's a toggle on the menu.
Wow, okay.
Okay, number three, you go into your character status screen and you have the fancy new portraits.
What if you like the PSP portrait?
So it's head button and the PSP portrait will show up for the whole rest of the game.
What about you want, you prefer the original portrait, the one where it says,
Crod C. Kenny instead of Clawed? Yeah, fuck it. Hit square, do it.
Nice.
Oh, does every single room in the game have fast travel now? Yes. Does the fast
travel screen show you where hidden events are and every personal action is in the game on the menu
with a little hourglass next to them if they're time limited? Hmm. Yes. Okay. Quality of fucking life.
Has the battle system been reworked to be more active,
to include things like active dodging and rolling bonuses.
Yes, our random battles completely gone and replaced
with a little guy on the map that you run into,
but then they all link up so that you can fight
five of them in a row, so you get a massive XP bonus
and spend less time grinding.
Yes, that's big.
Is the arranged soundtrack and the original soundtrack
flippable at any time with the press of a button
in the options menu?
Yeah, like lavish in its praise and adoration.
Switching to non-random battles is humongous.
Wow.
That's, it is, it is, like, it is everything that you could ever want out of it.
While still being the same game.
Okay.
Even added fishing.
Why?
I don't know, but I tried the fishing in a game and it's fun.
Sure.
And the fishing mini game is a way to weirdly unlock.
Oh, yeah, battles now have an assist system for characters
that were part of the story, but would never join your party? Well, now they can join as
assists. And if you fish really good, you can have the main characters of Star Ocean 4, 5,
and 6 come in as assists. Just for fun! Why not? Sure. Because for all, for whatever it's worth,
Because for all, for whatever it's worth, the Star Ocean's done now, right?
That's it, we're done.
Yeah.
This is all you need, and it's, yeah.
I don't know what's going on.
Like I went into a shop, and every single item in the game,
every single piece of equipment,
despite the game being entirely sprites,
in the shop menu only has a 3D model.
I don't know why, you'll never see it,
you'll never see it.
But when you go to buy leather, a leather helmet,
it shows you a nice 3D model of the leather helmet.
That feels like, it's almost like the way
that the Pixel Remaster's of FF were like, there's this little bit of 3D, but don't worry about it, it's almost like the way that the pixel remasters of FF were like there's a little bit of 3d
But don't worry about it. It's not there if you don't want it for too long. It's just gonna be here for a second
You know like it's like okay, it's during the opera look at the cool stuff during the opera
But the gameplay is still fun, you know
And it's like in case anyone is like I don't want any of this new shit
I don't want to look at it. I don't want to see it. It gives you enough distance to not affect things, you know.
Wait, I own Star Ocean 6. When did that even happen?
Ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Okay, I guess.
I guess someone sent it to me. Oh wait, you have to own 6 to get that feature?
No, no, I'm just, I'm just divine forces star ocean seven I
Don't I don't know I did a stream of it
No, I didn't
No, I didn't oh no oh
God
Are we here
Are we in this place where your your memory can't. No, I know that no. Someone's someone's
throwing no. Someone's trying to someone's trying to fuck with me. All right. Okay. Okay.
Yeah. Yeah. No, star ocean second story are is fucking a plus. It's absolutely stellar fantastic anybody who likes JRPGs to check it out. It's incredible
Yeah, just
Shit in the hands of people that love the thing that's that's really just that's the ingredient
Love who's been screwing with this thing
I would like to see I would like to see some starvation game that
I would like to see I would like to see some star ocean game that
Takes place after three that runs back the disaster
Decision's okay. I was trying to figure out how to angle the bit
And I saw I saw a fun comment where I could find that star ocean three
Taint his view of the series even though star ocean three is peak and I would fight you. I would scream and argue with you for hours.
Like dude, like, I mean, I just like,
I remember when, so Josh told me about how three went down and
every and described it over the course of hours and it was like, it was like trauma. It, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, like, it was incredible how fucking wrecked that day was from hearing about how that goes down.
And yeah, I will give the developers like massive, massive props for having the balls to never run it back.
And to continue from there forward, right?
Yeah, so that's why all games have to take place before Star Ocean 3.
Mm-hmm. In their narrative all games have to take place before star ocean three.
Mm-hmm. In their narrative, they have to.
God.
It's the rules. I mean, look, we did eventually get past Devil May Cry 2, you know, and eventually.
And it's great. It's great.
Nice. How much is star ocean?
Second.
Oh, it's a full price game. It's like 66 dollars
So I don't know what that is an American booker rose. All right, uh, cuz I was I was I was buying Mario wonder and I just saw it turn into like
90 Canadian dollars and I'm like oh feels great
Okay, so for Americans
Story are is $50
Okay Story R is $50. Mm-hmm. Okay. Um.
Whew.
Which that sounds about right?
Yeah.
It's so, it's so incredible.
It's so like, also you can skip every single dialogue
and cutscene in the game now.
Oh, you couldn't before?
No.
But like, hey, you know, when you,
so like for example,
when you're replaying the game a second time
with the other character and you're running
into a mandatory story scene that you've seen already,
boop.
When you're about to go fight the boss
and the cutscene is gonna, oh, I'm gonna fight, boop.
When you're restarting the game in order to get the skills
that you want on your character, boop.
By the way, this is gonna, so I'm gonna, oh my fucking god.
I have to give a public service announcement for insane people who are going to be playing
star ocean the second story are. So you're gonna have to bear with me, woolly. I will not
have time to explain all the bits and pieces of this. Sure.
In star ocean, the second story, or star ocean, the second story, second evolution, many of you who are playing the game wanted to reroll your character over and over and over and over and over until you started with the skill dexterity so that when you got the bandits glove, you could steal the mischief item or the sprite bracelet from the personal action that only appears before the fucking second continent and you wouldn't be able to get it otherwise blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blahbub-bub. Okay, you can now learn dexterity by crafting 10 iron ore in the first town of Cras.
You don't have to wait till the second continent in order to get dexterity.
You can do it.
You do not need to re-roll your character 35 times in order to get dexterity on Claude.
It's fine.
It's fine.
It's fine, it's fine, it's fine.
You don't have to do it.
Just play the game.
Just do it.
It's called nimble fingers and R, yeah, that's right.
You don't have to re-roll for nimble fingers.
You just have to use the crafting thing
when you get to crass.
fingers. You just have to use the crafting thing when you get to crass. So important is who is responsible for this quality S remake?
Gemdrops is the name of the company?
I've never heard of them.
Apparently they are behind Kazuna Eye game, sort of rewind, Crystar, Cogen, Spice and Wolf VR.
Well, I hit overwhelmingly positive on Steam.
Okay.
People know about Star Ocean 2 now, it's great.
Nice.
They should do more of this.
Former Try Asim Place.
Oh, well, there you go.
Okay, some of the people who originally made it.
So I look at Star Ocean, the second story are,
and I go, this is literally the best possible thing.
Like, this is the ideal version
that would have existed in your mind, right?
And I look at that, and I go to the steam discussion things,
and like all the top threads are,
do Xenochears and Chrono Tricker like this.
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Now, I imagine, I imagine, yeah, there's, there's, we're probably, we're overdue for another
chrono trigger.
I'm sure there's, I felt like the pixel remasters were, like, they took their sweet
ass time, but part of that I know is also like they went back to the original Sprite
artist and, you know, we're doing it that way.
I feel like yeah, I feel like we could we could we could get one of those going, especially
since I think the last chrono trigger re-release was the mobile version dropped on steam.
And I was the PC version, which was the mobile version, which was shit.
So there we go.
It took them like a year and a half to get to okay.
And I was like, it's super Nintendo game, man.
Like, come on.
Come on.
Okay.
Oh, my little quiet.
You are a little quiet.
So here's, I have a problem, Wully.
The problem is, as I look over and I see,
is Wully Quiet or is Pat really loud?
And the problem is, is that you are quiet
and I am really loud.
Yes. Yeah, it's just real. Okay. So like, is that you are quiet and I am really loud. Yes. Yes.
It's real.
Okay. So like, I don't know how to...
Sure.
Don't know how to actually parse that.
Okay.
Like in our real lives.
Alright. I did, I moved the mic a little bit, but I'm gonna drag the thing up. It should
be fine. Okay. Quick bathroom break.
Yeah, let's bathroom it. Okay, quick bathroom break.
Yeah, let's bathroom it.
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Did I ever tell you the story of how I accidentally shaved my legs?
Accidentally?
Yeah, I accidentally shaved my legs.
Were you going to a swim meet?
No, I was not.
So what happened? When I was like 12 or 13. So my dad,
my, I have super curly hair and my dad tried to show me how to use a regular razor. And
we, we discovered that was like going to be a mistake going forward, right? So we're
not going to do that. So then he showed me how to use an electric razor. Right. So I,
I primarily use an electric razor, right?
And I always wanted to have a little bit of fuzz
and I had like a beard when I was like,
fucking tan or whatever.
So, you know, it worked out.
But my mom would keep her, her,
racers for her legs in the shower, right?
And then one day, I, like a couple of years later,
I was like, did these things even work and
I put it on my leg and went and had this fucking
foot long
Yeah, on the front on the front of my shin
No hair on it and I went oh
My shin, uh, no hair on it.
And I went, oh, oh no! And so I quickly did the whole leg so that no one would notice.
There you go. It can't stand out.
So you got to do the leg.
And then I stepped out of the shower and looked down and realized that I had one hairy leg.
And one completely smooth leg.
And I went, oh no! No one will know.
And I went back and I shaved the other leg.
And so now I have two completely shaved legs.
And Jim class was the next day like it was first course it was.
Of course it was.
And I went in there and one of the kids that hated my guts and the bully me looked at me
and went, did you shave your foot legs? went in there and one of the kids that hated my guts and the bully me looked at me and
went, did you shave your foot and legs?
And I went, no.
Also why are you looking at my legs?
Did you want to kiss it?
And then I just, just like everyone's like, yeah, dude, you're looking at just legs, you're
gay.
And then for the remaining week, I would not wear shorts.
I only wore pants because everything from the top
of my knees, like maybe six inches above my knees down,
every single follicle came in in grown.
Jesus fucking crazy.
Every single fucking one.
And I would take a shower and it would be blood blood and I'm like how
to how to put your shave how my god does this happen every time this is awful oh no it worked oh
no it worked too well uh oh now what oh god oh god and then we're back in there you then and then nothing nothing came of it
and did you did you signal the school bus by like by waving your legs in the street a little bit
no I walked home to school I didn't have to okay
just flash a little skin yeah just like it's. Just like I made one small mistake that was then followed up by
a dozen follow-up panic mistakes. And then did you collect and hide the hair sufficiently after the
fact? Because if someone walks in and sees like a fucking red
a crime scene on the ground in the form of your life.
My mom and I have the same hair color.
So, like I just stomped it down the drain.
Okay.
Just like any Aaron's, any Aaron hairs mom will just think it's hers.
I mean, what would she do? Like, would you dad walk in there and go, uh, we going through our drapes
Inquiring minds wanna know why do you want a fucking
The leg carpet the leg the leg does the leg carpet. I don't all yeah. Oh,
yeah,
what that means. It's not but it was topical.
All right. Also the weirdest part not anymore.
Yeah, my hair got darker. You notice my beard didn't.
Guess what?
Guess what? And gingers have that, huh?
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, all over.
That's wild, that's crazy.
To hold up like two strands
and have them look like different anyway.
Oh, the hair from the top of my head, so woolly.
I have dark like Auburn hair on top of my head.
I have blonde eyebrows.
Every hair on my arms and legs is blonde.
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
My beard is bright red with white now.
When my dad got older
and before he lost all the color in his hair,
he was had black hair with red mustache.
He looked like an asshole.
That's so wild.
But he also look cool and old.
So anyway, speaking of cool and old,
we got some bum news.
Unfortunately, the golden girls take Manhattan DX
has been canceled.
So.
And it got canceled for a totally legit reason where the like the
scope was so out of control.
The bear like we'd never be able to finish it.
We planned to to fan make a persona game.
And then it turns out we bid off a little more than we can shoot.
So that's completely reasonable.
So they're releasing all the assets for yeah, yeah,
yeah, exactly. So you know,
the good news I suppose there is you can go check out when they're gonna release everything
they've made so far. All the code is gonna go up on GitHub, all the assets and everything they've
worked on so far. And they're also putting it up in a way where people could in theory like
and they're also putting it up in a way where people could, in theory, add and finish it if they wanted to.
Like there could be a criminal.
They're not gone on, but they could.
You know, effort to compile something after the fact,
but yeah, it was just way too large in scope
and that's a shame.
I think, yeah, that's one of those bits where it's like,
it should probably start with with a vertical slice,
because the trailer looked like they had a lot going on in it.
I imagine what we're going to get is going to be similar to that,
but starting with a proof of concept of a quick chapter to see how that goes,
and then seeing from there,
is there a way to push this forward?
Effectively, the Delta ruined school of development, you
know. But for those who didn't know, if you haven't seen it, there was a fan-made golden
girls-ass persona-style RPG that was being made called Golden Girls Take Manhattan DX,
and it looked pretty fucking great. So that's a bummer.
You always got to remember, the reason Barkley Shut Up and Jam Guide and was able to come out is because the scope
was kept limited.
Yeah, limit that scope.
Yeah, start realistic and then do what you can.
Also, and this is actually like really important.
This is maybe the best thing I ever heard
about any creative medium.
When you start working on your creative thing,
your temptation is gonna be like, I'm gonna make the thing I've dreamed about since I was a kid.
Don't do that. Your first project is the most likely one to fail and spot her out and for
you to fuck it up and shit it up and never finish or put out half-assed. Every time. The thing you've been dreaming about since you were a kid,
do that when you're like 50.
I mean, 60.
It like the trajectory is very similar for a lot of people,
which is the dream thing, that is the high school thing.
Like you either go down the path where you learn
to become the, I'm the programmer, artist, writer, voice actor,
all of the above amazing super fucking creator,
and then you just do it. But for a lot of people, it's not that, and you end up failing at your first attempt.
So then project B is actually the smaller scale thing that you get your teeth wet, uh,
sunk in with, and you go, okay, do you like, you figure out how to actually make a thing,
and then C is a little bit more complicated using the tools and mistakes you learned from B.
And then at some point around, you come back
in like five or so, maybe four things in.
You're like, maybe now I can tackle
that first thing I always wanted to do.
Plus I have friends and connections
and other people I've met at a hotel I did
that can realize the vision, you know?
But your first attempt is almost always
gonna be a fucking rough one for sure.
But yeah, we got that going down.
So I talked about it a little earlier, thirsty suitors pretty much came out and dropped a trailer
so I mentioned that.
We talked about Silent Hill as well. So the the weird one is right as we were getting started to a
rumor
But the rumor is coming in from a a trusted leaker, I suppose says that a film adaptation of bloodborne is in the works
Don't believe that.
It sounds super wild.
And the only reason why I bring it up is because,
according to Bloody Disgusting, they're pointing out that the person
who brought this up also Was the one who met who brought up a couple of other
Reliable leaks in the past from like a couple superhero movies and things like that
and they're saying that the
producer or rather the the writer is good is
Darren Lemke who was credited as the writer for Goosebumps in Shazam.
This is apparently in vain with things like twisted metal, which they just made for peacock.
No, this guy snuck into a Sony person's house and saw them watching Brotherhood of the
Wolf on their fucking TV.
Oh, it's a blood porn.
And that's what it was.
Yeah, and so, you know, there's a description that it's basically like, oh, there's going
to be a hunter and a yarn in all the things you expect there.
And it's like, well, if they made, if they made, if they made twisted metal out of nowhere,
anything is possible
But it's there's also a level of like you know like could you a world where you got a full bloodboard movie coming out
But you still can't fucking play the thing
like you know is is are in 60 FPS even or re-released or anything like that is would be hilarious and just the kind of move Sony would pull
That would be it that would kind of and just the kind of move Sony would pull. That would be it.
That would kind of suck actually.
If like, yeah, what wouldn't it?
A movie came out and is like,
everyone's looking and talking about Bloodboard again.
And that's it.
None for you.
Nothing whatsoever.
It feels like that would be such a callous way to go
that we might actually see that happen.
I can imagine it.
Every time I hear the word, so me and Paige spent like maybe six awards shows in a row going,
Bloodborne!
And then nothing.
So I have been ruined of saying Bloodborne and thinking there'll be a Bloodborne.
And then there no bloodborne.
It would be pretty cool if this movie came out and released straight to laser disk actually.
Oh, that would be pretty great. That would be excellent.
I'd be really fine.
Oh, hey, Wully, there was a small piece of information about something we talked about last week that I, it doesn't really fit in anywhere properly, but I need to get it out of my head
before I forget.
Do you remember last week where I said, yo, Miles and Spider-Man has an absolutely trash
costume?
Oh, yeah.
Or he's like, got a data sneaker's on and the whole thing looks like garbage.
Yeah.
Well, it, it, you can buy it in a deed as a store.
Ah.
And there's fully modeled a deed as stores in Spider-Man 2.
Okay.
So a marketing deal was struck up.
And that's why things turned out so trash, dude.
Yeah, that makes perfect sense, right?
The costume designed by the complete outside fucking influence.
And yeah, okay, okay, interesting.
Wrong brand, wrong everything.
And then of course, there's a tie in on that.
That, yeah, okay, I believe it.
It makes it makes a lot more sense
while you're not allowed to take it off.
Hmm.
Um.
Uh, yeah. So there was a long side, a couple of, there's a couple of things that got announced.
Um, Sega has come out and been, Sega's been talking.
Oh, Sega's been talking.
Sega's like one...
Sega's been saying a lot of stuff.
Sega's been saying a lot of stuff.
One, they're like, hey, you know, Sonic and Mario,
they can celebrate and race each other
at the Olympic Games, but Sega wants to surpass Mario.
Believe it or not, after all these years, the ambition
has been 30 years. They're officially, but they're officially calling it out now. They're
pointing out 30 years. 30 years.
Say, as officially saying that we want Sonic to surpass Mario and getting serious this
time. Not only is it 30 years later, but it's 25 years later of, oh, you're playing with plumbers?
What are you gay in print magazines?
It's all for cool kids that fuck women.
Like, and for Christians, don't forget Christians.
Yeah, that's right.
Um, it's also hot on the heels of what I'm hearing
is one of the best Mario games ever made.
So, yeah.
So, yeah.
Good timing, you know, solid.
Don't compare it to that game.
That game,
duh, um,
well they say our goal is to catch up and surpass him, right?
So that's what you're saying.
You're slu-
Um, but alongside that was the confirmation that
Sega is working on its first super game. So this has some translation stuff going on in the story.
Where like it was originally reported that the budget for their super game was 800 million.
Um, but no, that's the budget they have for like all of their big push, but they
still mention that it's a there's going to be a super game.
Yeah, and it's like for 2026, they're aiming for their biggest triple A title.
That will be a comprehensive crossover of Sega's, I guess like brands and range of
technologies and everything. So they're using all of their R&D to create a super game that
scales. But I guess the game Sega made was Shenmue and it was a fucking disaster
So is that is that the translation of what super game means in this context because like I feel like if you say triple A
You just that's the word right and I feel like every everything Yakuza related would can be considered that so I would assume you know
The most part about all this mm-hmm is like they say super game and leverage the fucking technology and all that shit.
This came out like three days after an interview with the director of infinite wealth and a like a dragon guy then,
which by the way I'm playing this week on the channel and sponsored. You can go look at that. In which he was describing like talking to his boss about like, hey, so we're doing like
a dragon guy day in an infinite wall.
Is there anything you want us to do?
And the quote is, don't change anything.
Just keep doing what you're doing.
Okay.
And. what you're doing. Okay. And,
and like that is that mentality
is so violently opposed to,
we're gonna integrate all our technologies
to make a super game.
And it's like, I don't know, man.
I don't know what the fuck is going on over there.
So the thing is when I, like reading this,
it's like, yeah, they have a concept
that they want to stand and shoulders
above their normal games and things like that.
I kind of read that more as like not a AAA game,
but like an attempted a quadruple A or like a,
or possibly even a like smash brothers
like like all of our brands, all of our powers together,
you know, everything we can do at all of Sega coming, coming, coming
to do something insane. I am ambitious and expensive. There was the, but I remember too
we also talked about how prior to this, Hyenas was the live service shooter that got canceled
was previously their biggest budget game ever. It was done. Also, like it can't be overstated that hyenas was finished.
And so that's decided that it wasn't even going to be worth shipping out disks.
Yeah, it's a bit, it's kind of wild to be like, here's the money we're spending preemptively
and we're calling this out years in advance.
And, you know, if you just canceled
your previously most expensive,
your last most expensive project just got canceled
a couple of seconds ago.
But maybe this is a,
hey investors, please don't leave.
Look, here's what we're planning,
kind of like that control move.
I didn't even say that we're gonna bring it back to beta or rework it.
They just killed it. Like how trash must have that shit been, man? Like every time I hear
like one of these like the announcement is not the game itself, but it's an announcement
about the thing and in a development context. I always think it's like this is for investors who just saw what just happened to be convinced
to stick around.
I feel like there were new trailers of Hain is coming out two months ago.
Dude, that, that decision had to have come down in a matter of weeks to just kill it.
There was weird shit in it too. You could like dress up as a guy coded in dreamcasts and second Saturn.
We also did, I mean, it's nowhere near the same scope.
But I'm like last week was also the shutting down of the Yoko taro evil Sega game.
So like, there's a couple of things that anything that shuts down less than a year after
it launches is again not going to be convincing anybody to stick around. So anyways, that's
what they're talking about. If you're a fan of 20 minutes till dawn, they just announced
the sequel, Ember Path.
Looks pretty cool.
You have to aim in this game.
You still have aiming...
I don't care.
You still have aiming.
Yes, you do.
Though you can play with or without twin sticks.
So, admittedly, there's some weapons and some ways where you can just run around and kind of have it do its thing.
So, it's not.
But yeah, I like 20 minutes to hold on.
I thought it was our...
I thought it was cool.
I just didn't want to aim.
So, yeah, so Tekken 8 announces its second original character.
It's fucking Hitman from DNF duel
It's French hit man French hit man literally old man Zaddy face
Sword and gun long co we're doing this now on this podcast
Doing what?
Zaddy we're zaddying it up. This is not the debut of the term Zaddy on the podcast.
I don't know. I think I feel like it is.
It has absolutely occurred before.
There is no, not a chance.
Zaddy has happened.
And yes, it's not Agent 47 style hitman,
but the, again, the DNF dualF dual styles motherfucker Victor Shivalier or to do it properly
Victor Shivalier. He alternatively V. Horsey man. Vince a voice by Vincent Kassel. Um, he, he shoots the gun way more like, like Nina, you know, like Nina did a little bit
of gun shit.
And he does.
John Wicking with his gun shoot aggressively.
And so like, yeah, gun fighting game guns continue to just be basically just rubber bullet
like combo extenders.
Like that's all it really is like
And then he pulls the sword out and then he pulls out daggers. It's got a jet stream Sam Samurai sword. It jets
Dream Sam Samurai sword
anime teleports left right
Um, and yeah, looks looks cool. It just it couldn't it couldn't remind me more of like I get hitman, but I think I
think
I think the reason why they designed it with a bunch of teleports is so that when you're playing as or against him
You won't notice the latency as much
Round you'll be like oh that's
because when he's first around, you'll be like, oh, that's his mix, oh, that was a mix of,
just moves.
When the purple and the blue flash together,
they yeah, yeah, yeah.
So he's at, and he works for, like,
I think it's like the UN, like Raven,
core something, like there's like a thing with him
and Raven is like ninjas and whatever, rivalry bits.
And so you see them fighting each other.
So they're both teleporting all over the place.
You know, so yeah, like, yeah, it's, uh,
the rollback frames are baked in, right?
Vincent Chivalier is three.
Our Victor, excuse me.
Perhaps that's what's happening there.
He looks cool.
He looks cool.
It's fine.
Is he just a replacement for Noctis's moves up? He is, he is, there are people flipping the word Victor into Noctis.
Because yes, if you're someone that liked the ability to weapon poke and teleport all over the place,
and Noctis is not here.
Yeah, you know what? I think that's a really good way to solve that problem. I think that when
when Smash Bros. puts out their next game and looks at the all the fighting game characters they
have to not have again, they should just map all of their bullshit onto existing warrior-ware characters are what that well existing Nintendo characters while Luigi is Ryu
Yeah, yeah, sure
The Hadookan is a fart just that's fine. Mm-hmm. Okay. I see where this is going
I and I remember to when they're when they're like oh, yeah, and's a French fighter. And I was like, oh, does it Lily represent France?
And it's like, no, turns out she represents Monaco.
So she represents Monaco.
Yeah.
So she speaks French, but she's from Monaco.
Actually, I have people Monaco would speak French.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Yeah, yeah.
So I was like, oh, okay, French-speaking country,
but I didn't realize that.
So I guess this is actually the France representation there.
Yeah.
Interesting.
So there's your, there's your, there's your noctis.
Noctis too, like, is one of those characters, too, that's like feel super easy to pick up,
just tons of far-ranging buttons, and then left, right, mix-ups baked into super unsafe
strings and stuff.
It's also not just a noctis replacement, but a beginner-friendly character, probably.
Just looking at the trailer.
Cool.
I just, I'm like, yes, you show new things, please.
And I wonder, I don't know,
I imagine we'll be able to get another beta
going before it comes out
and see what the state of the net play is.
But yeah, like I said, at last time, it seemed to be a bit better, but I didn't get as much
time on it.
I just, I'm heavily like looking, I'm like, show me new stages, show me new fucking characters,
show me new stages, show me new fucking characters, show me new shit.
Sure. And then probably drop a guest character on launch. I imagine is what they'll do. They'll save like one of their
talks about latency.
Thanks for that. Mm-hmm.
That fall guys thing came out in FF 14.
Uh-huh. Those two game styles and their latency prediction algorithms do not mix. Oh no. Oh no. This is the 14 fall guys.
Fucking fail. So the way that FF 14 does its thing is that the server snapshots your location when the AOE goes off on the server side
and then no matter where you are when the hit hits you,
if it snapshots did you earlier, it's while you got hit.
And there's invisible AOE markers in the fall guys thing
that snapshot you at times that you would not possibly expect
so you're running through and you just get hit by something like 20 feet away.
That's nowhere near you.
Because the game said, well, you were near it before.
That's so weird because, but wouldn't the way that like fighting a communal boss work is that like
things like that should be actually very accurate and tight because the threats are shared.
No, it's so collision. that should be actually very accurate and tight because the threats are shared. So collisions.
So collisions.
So I'm not super technical on this,
but the long and short of it is the way
that the server in 14 pings your location
in regards to being hit by something is via server ticks
and server ticks on that server are not fast. So it kind of checks every
I forget how long but it checks every little bit go where are you where are you where are you in it
are you in it are you not in it. If your latency is like over 150 ms then where you, where it looks like you are, and where the game thinks you are,
can be very off.
So if you're paying as bad or the server is getting a little fucky, you can get into very
insane situations in FF14 where you will physically die from a hit. And then your corpse will continue to move with your party
because your location control will still be on the body,
but it will have snapshot of you as dying.
It's just some body sliding around.
Well, when you attribute that to something like fall guys
as like fucking swinging-
Spinning bullshit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, you can get goofy fucking situations.
So the better you're latency, the less likely it is to happen,
but some people are having a little whoopsies with that.
On the plus side, every now and then matchmaking breaks and you get into a game by
yourself. Yeah, which means you win by a default.
As long as you don't fall off the drop hit or whatever.
No, I don't keep going until you can't lose
if you're by yourself.
You can only win.
So if the threat is like an active large physical thing
with collision that's supposed to move you
and not just a ground marker that says damage now,
it's not made for that to be to be also.
Lee Shardrow, because MMO players are freaks.
I am trying to find it for you.
They have solved the fall guys encounter with a series of charts.
And basically, when you start fall guys, if you have your spreadsheet next to you and
you look at where the things are rolling down, the thing,
you can figure out what root to take to just barely avoid everything.
And it's perfect every single time.
There is no random, the set instance like generation.
Well, no, because SFF14 doesn't really have physics.
Okay.
So it doesn't, it can't actually randomly generate physics. So we've,
we've just broken it. We've just, so it can be solved. Yeah. Okay. All right. Now can
they apply that to regular fall guys? Can they apply that to regular fall guys and just
know there? Because fall guys has physics. So yeah. Okay. There's millions of permutation.
But MMO players, they can't help it. They have to it's it's in their brains
They must solve
Okay, fun
Most actions are normalized to a three-second global cool down
But the tick rate for the server is generally handled in about 300 MS
Pretty slow for an online game. Okay
Huh, well do you get your cute little fall guy hat out of it?
Yeah sure do and it looks like shit.
Great.
Mission accomplished.
Mission accomplished.
Yeah.
Yeah sure.
I ran a dungeon with somebody wearing the fall guy's shirt
and it is some neon technicaler garbage.
It is an eye sore.
It's great.
Can you make a little fall guy like stick out of your cleavage?
And I don't know because that feel like that's it you done cost of
No, but the hat doesn't work on the bunny guys. So a little fall guy pops out of their hair. Okay
Great
Great. Um.
I, I, I mean, look, I, I, I for one, uh, uh, encourage further,
Jank asks, crossover things where we try, try to fit new game system engine types into
into 14.
Just wildly incompatible shit.
Figure it out.
Get me Tetris in 14.
Go. Do it.
I'm surprised.
Anyway, whatever.
Like if there isn't already like a minecraft type a situation.
Oh, you mean island sanctuary?
Oh, yeah.
Is that yeah.
Do you remember me describing that to you?
No.
Okay, so island sanctuary is there like Minecraft,
like little animal crossing thing that they came out
and like, hey guys,
resource-file-man.
He just did, and Walker.
And Walker was very serious, it was very intense.
So what we're gonna do is we're gonna make island sanctuary
where you can go play a little animal crossing game
and build a little village by yourself
and just chill content.
And within like a day, here comes the optimal rock hitting guide
to island sanctuary.
Spread some of you island.
Maximize your fucking, I forget what it's called,
your duckits in order to get every single rare bird
on the island and fucking bang it out.
That content was supposed to last people like a year.
Ha ha.
Fuck.
Power.
Cowries, yeah, it got to max out your calories.
I dude, I went, my punts have a discord
and I went into the FF 14 discord, like, you know, the
tab and they were all chatting.
Guys, remember, don't go to your island sanctuary this week because if you go to the island
sanctuary, the calories will cash out.
You need to wait until Tuesday morning after the patch next week to come out.
Then you'll go into the island out, then you'll go into
the island sanctuary and then you'll catch last week stocked up calories onto the new
cap.
And then one of the maxes, Denley went there like, no, my cowries, I accidentally got them
this week.
Oh, no.
And it's like, dude, you kids.
It sounds like fun but then sounds like so much fun but then the
person who is like don't visit the island next this week so you can get it next
week they were the first person to show a picture of their character riding the
motorcycle you get out of island sanctuary. Damn. And we all want, ooh, did their character
permanently enter a blind state?
No, they did not.
No, okay.
All right, and then one little bit here
that is a piece of news, but also a shout out
because none of us,
no one I knew knew about this, this is wild.
Shout out to Leon Massey,
who's got a great YouTube channel.
He sure does.
Getting into some cool fighting game
and other general video essays.
I would recommend.
If you wanted to watch a Leon Massey video,
go watch his incredible video on how jumps work in fighting games.
Real good. Or you can check out his latest, which is a really good video,
about fighters lost in the files, and in particular, how two
hidden fighters were discovered in Rising Thunder that no one has talked about at all.
Really? There are two characters hidden in the files,
and you just have to do a quick little switch
to get them loaded in.
And you can unlock, uh,
yeah, ages and gun.
And gun?
Gun.
They just got a gun.
I'm looking at him right now.
Gun has a gun.
And, uh, yeah, gun appears to be kind of like a just a very incomplete sort of test out for like what it would be like to have a
Guile style character. So a lot of guns a gun has a unique model, but guns moves are all borrowed from other characters and the gun button is the one shot thing.
And it's basically like seeing what would happen
if you had someone who could do
flash kick sonic boom shots charges,
but in this case, what it is is
by pressing the gun button,
it also makes the upper cut go on cool down at the same time.
And if you do the upper cut,
it makes the gun go on cool down at the same time.
So they're shared, you know, pretty incomplete character, otherwise
though, like not, not very, not very good from a lot of the things he goes over the details
in that video. And then Aegis, who's extremely interesting, because she's very potentially potentially close to complete as a wild new style character.
Ages is, she's basically a character
that has a shield that comes out and can do,
she's very slow moving, she has like a not great dash,
she's very kind of stuck where she is
and you can bully her.
But what's going on is she's got a shield She has like a not great dash. She's very like kind of stuck where she is and you can bully her.
But what's going on is she's got a shield and various buttons that are all extremely
plus on block.
Right.
So when she hates you, she recovers first on a ton of things she does, which means you're
constantly at a disadvantage.
And it's almost like being in her face
is the same fear you would have
for being in front of a grappler's face,
but for completely different reasons, you know?
And then she has the ability to put her shield on her limbs
and then get a hit of armor as well,
so she can be armored and plus on what she does.
So it's like, it's just like, what if we made a character
that was like, her whole deal is, I'm at insane advantage
when I'm in front of you,
but like, you can bully me from outside of that range, you know?
Really interesting.
So yeah, Rising Thunder for anyone who doesn't know
is the game that was made by Radiant,
who the Cannon Brothers,
who are now making Project L,
the League of Legends fighting game
This was the game they made before that that was kind of like a a test bed for like a lot of the
Dead as fighting games you can think of because like it doesn't even really officially exist anymore
Yeah, well it came out as a game that you that could only be played online
It was a free game that was kind of just like again, I feel like an execution of a bunch of concepts
to see if like a simple modern control style fighter could be a thing.
And it was a very good, and it was like one of the early solid efforts in laying a lot
of the groundwork for like, yeah, how a simple but fun fighting game can approach accessible controls and still be pretty deep and have a lot of
crazy mixes and depth. And the last thing they did was release a community edition, which people
were able to then keep going themselves. And so there's a discord and a bunch of people where
they still play together. And that's the that's kind of like the community version.
And yeah, so there you go, just you can go look at the video,
going into what they found and some of the details
on all the other things in the code
that they were able to scrape together and find out.
So, fucking awesome game.
And again, the direct thing that leads to League of Legends,
fighting game, you know, getting handed over to them.
So go check out Leon Massey for more information about that.
It's a very, it's cool to see like an experimental character that's like that.
It's like a non-graplar grappler, you know.
And, you know, like, yes, the armor style characters are like, there's Marissa and there's Abigail and stuff like that,
but they do ultimately have command grabs and they also are not plus on everything they do.
You know, but here's one that very much is, but her just mobility is the sacrifice.
Check it out. All right. Let's take some letters.
But we talked about the bungee layoffs last week. We did.
We did?
Yeah.
Jesus sucks.
Yeah, yeah, as well as the delay and,
all right, you're right.
Marathon.
I just didn't want to miss it because, fuck.
If you've got a letter, you can send it
to castlesuperbeastmail.gmail.com.
That's castlesuperbeastmail.com. That's castlesuperbeastmail.com.
And it might read like this.
Oh, wait.
Did you see Microsoft announce by the game awards
that they're gonna fucking go all in on AI?
So there's some sort of, there's some sort of tool or, or so that's devs are gonna work with that.
Let me get, let me get the fucking statement.
Mm-hmm.
Microsoft is bringing AI characters to Xbox,
partnering with in-world AI to create Xbox game dev tools
for generative AI characters, storylines, more full details on this AI push here.
Whatever that means.
I I don't know what that is.
I believe in better tools, more extraordinary games,
generative AI models, cutting edge,
cloud-based solutions include blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
The multi-platform tool set won't include the AI design co-pilot for scripts and dialogue
and AI character engine that can be integrated into games
and used to dynamically generate stories, quests,
and dialogue.
I bet you know game that uses this will ever come out.
Working with a writer as opposed to replacing them.
Yes, sure. Whatever you say.
Whatever you fucking say.
Yeah.
I can't even imagine working at fucking obsidian after fucking Microsoft bought you
because of your writing and narrative expertise and then turning around going,
hey, I have stories!
I mean, the real, the curiosity is to see like,
what the level of stubbornness is with each of these companies
because like, I feel like UB and the commitment
to the, like, the NFT bit stuff
and then the, like, we're gonna triple down thing
is like, not on, under no circumstances, fuck you, never, ever, ever,
is a wild way to go in the face of like tons of financial loss.
And you know, it's like, we'll Microsoft take that same route.
I'm gonna mitigate what I just said.
Exactly one game will come out that uses this shit.
Okay.
Oh yeah, we got one coming in over here from Amad,
who says, hey, funny nickname one and funny nickname two.
That's the best one so far.
You've got $15, you're at $7.11 and you need snacks.
What are you walking out with?
For me?
That's easy.
$7.11 have shitty sandwiches?
Um, Japanese, okay, okay, okay.
Like easy mode.
Easy mode Japanese combini.
$7.11.
Oh yeah, I'm walking out with the sandwiches, man.
I'm walking out with a meal and a boss coffee
and the fucking gourmet bread and a million other things.
Yeah, there you go, done.
Easy.
I'll eat like that every day.
All right, North American corner store
or dipiner for, you know, come back.
Yeah, I'm just gonna assume they mean
local convenience store, corner store, or gas station, right?
For me, that's usually a guru and energy drink
or so, I'm getting some beef jerky,
probably a stick, I can get like a jack links,
just sweetened spicy stick, probably some Reese's pieces.
And, you know, if I'm feeling, if I'm feeling frisky, I'll grab some misvickies, you know.
I would grab for 15 bucks, probably just grab a big old Dorito and the biggest drink I can get hold of.
Cause you listen a lot of shit for $15.
Yeah, I'm getting like a can,
that's like a $3 can,
I'd get like a, you know,
like a whatever, like a $3 risk thing.
And you know, like I'd get like four things
for that 15 bucks.
A jerky thing, maybe like five bucks for that. You know, yeah, I'd buy like four
things. But definitely my like when we stop it like a road trip, I definitely am usually
in the mood for jerky. Or a white chocolate,
macadamia nut, cliff bar.
Those things are green.
Cliff bars are so.
I could make a Dorito bag last like a whole day.
You just wait until you're about to die
and then you gorge until you're sick.
And then you won't be hungry for a while
because you feel sick.
Yeah, now if it's the corner store at the airport,
you get one thing for that money.
You want breath mint, you get $15.
Yeah, you got that snake meal on fucking Doritos.
You know about snake meal, will they?
Nope.
It's where you pile every meal of the day in a one big meal
and eat it like a snake.
Yeah.
At the same time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
I used to do snake meal.
Are we trying to do the snake meal?
Boy and girl dinner into the next thing here or,
no snake meal predates. Boy and girl dinner into the next thing here. No, snake meal predates boy and girl dinner actually.
Snake meal is much older.
But you have to eat it at the same time
for it to be snake food.
Yeah, dude.
Dude, when I was like,
you remember when I dropped over at your house
and we'd play street funner?
Do you ever notice that I never ate anything?
Well, you'd, that's not true.
That's a lie.
You're lying right now.
You ate a bag of reasons and you left the wrappers on the ground
ever where they may lay.
That's not true.
You would eat reasons.
I always put them inside the little bag.
That is dude.
I had to point it out.
I didn't just suck at it.
It's multiple times. I had to point it out. I just suck at it. It's multiple times.
I had to point out when you eat your fucking reasons, please do not just drop the
wrapper on the ground.
And you got there eventually, but there were many instances of reasons clean up
after the fact.
I'm sorry.
It was kind of wild.
Um,
but a bad full bag of reasons would be your go to. I can't believe my sugar is still good.
That is the most outrageous shit that's ever happened.
Okay.
Here's one coming in from DSG who says, hey, William Pat, Pat, quick trivia about Garpe's dog hat and him in general.
Yeah, what about it?
So, one piece started with two pilots known as Romance Dawn.
The first one was very close to the actual first chapter with Shanks.
The second pilot has Luffy's unnamed grandpa give Luffy the straw hat.
Since Oda wanted to keep Shanks a surprise, when
Garp was put into the actual series Oda gave him the dog hat to hide his identity since
he reused the design for the second pilot and people would figure out who he was, they
figure out the twist.
Oh!
Do you know any similar cases where the side material, or plot material, or pilot material led to hiding a character's identity
or something like that.
Oh, about that.
But what I first think of is if you read the short story
that Mira put out before Berserkiver existed,
it's clearly gut saving a child that is clearly griffeth
from a monster.
And then when he made Berserk,
he just rolled those designs forward.
I mean, it's not a surprise,
but like you can just look at a bow and see star platinum,
you know, as well as pillar man ass shit.
And you can, you know, and we were just talking about
like how the trench coat, like hobo or a sour man
just keeps coming back up in each of these,
each of these series that he makes.
I remember watching Star Dust Crusaders
because I had been familiar with part two.
I'm like, are they ever gonna address that,
like Star Platinum is broofered slash Santana?
Is that, or are we just, what is happening?
Like the designs are like the same.
It's pretty, yeah, it has the, it's got the cues.
I definitely see more bow on them,
but like, yeah, they're all coming from that same
as tech inspired thing.
And then the thing is,
but like after star platinum,
then it just starts going all over the place.
He looks like that,
and then other stands start just becoming wild alien,
vogue robots.
Yeah, yeah. It do become robots, aren't they? It's they literally just become robots. Yeah, they do become robots, aren't they? They literally just become robots. They
become alien-vogue robots, says the further into the future. Why they all become robots?
Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Gorgeous Irene. That's true, too. Even the name Irene that has its precedent with the series that Eric he did beforehand.
All right, and let's take one over here from Remarai.
How's it going Remarai?
Hey man.
Dear Willie the Elder and Patrick Yark.
As you may not know.
I like that because I have a baby.
Have heard about a week ago, the Golden Girls JRPG was canceled, understandable reasons
for doing so, but still a bit of a bummer. When I first heard about the game, I thought
it was a funny idea, but then it made me realize that as far as I'm aware, there's not
really many games that let you play as the elderly. Seems like there's so many stories you
could tell with a game like that about life experience, recent history, dealing with grandkids,
medical issues, and all sorts, and some sort of bittersweet pain of living a long eventful life and nearing its bittersweet conclusion in the autumn
years. The only one that comes close I can think of is Metal Gear Solid 4. Do you have a better
example? I hope I one day can make a game where you can play as like an 80 year old grandparent
because there's stories to tell there either heartbreaking or heartwarming.
So before we move on I would like to point out that Maremmarai mentioning Golden Girls DX
is hilarious to me because one of the reasons we were talking about Golden Girls DX
is limit your scope. Make sure you can ship something. Hey, you know who had a nice limited scope
and shipped something? Ramarai.
And it's great. There you go.
Old people, huh?
Near is old, but I don't know if Popponeer is like,
that's right on the line of like, old man, elderly,
and like, middle aged, you know?
Near Gestalt specifically. Yeah, cuz old old poppania is not in like his 80s
But he's certainly in his like late 50s early 60s. I feel like um
Curie who's getting there and
and
He's 31 years old
And he's done I mean, you're old. Yakuza six is literally,
I'm basically a grandpa right now.
Fuck.
Um, I got to find who knocked up my little girl and punched them.
See who is a game mechanics.
See who was a game mechanic version of that admittedly.
That's not really the same.
Yeah, people saying legacy of Kane admittedly. That's not really the same.
Yeah.
People saying legacy of Kane, legacy of Kane does not count.
The characters are thousands of years old, but they're vampires.
Laughstotacy also doesn't count because you're a hot immortal.
You do have grandpa energy, but you're a hot in a way immortal.
So I don't feel like it carries the weight.
Like old snake is old fucking snake.
Gameplay is dedicated.
Goose alien.
Yeah, like old snake is coughing up his lungs and dying.
Like for half the fucking game.
Oh, hey, can I, I would like to,
I would like to clear the air for on some very specific joke
that I'm seeing somebody make,
that I keep every two weeks,
I see like a thread about it about Yakuza
because I cried for Digo and why is Pat so mad
that he cried for Digo?
I don't like Digo because of the shit he did
at the end of Yakuza four.
After that, he was dead to me forever. That's it. That's
the explanation. The shini didn't you, Yakuza 4? I hate him forever. That's it.
Adios. You play as an old man. He plays an old man who's lived a life and you are visiting.
The whole story is about his life's actions prior to the game starting.
Adios is exactly what Remarise talking about.
Yeah, there you go.
How many old people?
Old snake, Adios?
That's it. There's got to be more old people, right? Old snake, adios.
That's it, that's it.
There's gotta be more old people, right?
Because here's the thing,
because if you have to take,
the fact that you can take Papinear
and replace him with young brother near
and it makes no difference,
is showing you that the whole part of the past
being a, is irrelevant to his, you know.
His thing.
Oh, people are saying Geralt, yeah, Geralt is actually
an old man.
Like both, both in attitude and in literal age.
Like he's a mutant freak.
He just looks but like young and hot, but is,
he does not look young.
He looks, ever.
Okay, he looks not wrinkled.
He is wrinkled.
Really?
Yeah.
I feel like he is visibly old.
He's just not, he's much older than you think he is.
Okay.
And I remember when I was talking about
which are three a million years ago,
Geralt is like visibly and audibly exhausted
by every interaction.
Now, like are we talking about Henry Cavill here?
Paul that has to do a video game.
He doesn't want to do it.
Because Henry Cavill is very chiseled young.
We're not talking about Henry Cavill.
Okay.
Wait, is that how you say his fucking...
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Is he,
like is he supposed to come across older in a game?
On the game he looks visibly older.
Also, Geralt is not supposed to be
an exhaustively, incredibly chiseled man
meat, handsome man.
Okay. He is supposed to look like kind of a freak mutant.
Yeah, I guess I, this feels a bit closer to the lost oddity thing I was saying though,
because I'm looking at the in-game face artwork covers as well, and it's like, it's up there, but you're not like 80s looking like I'm a tired old man.
But my point is that he's exhausted.
Yeah, I guess he is so tired.
Adios, like most side quests in Witcher 3, he doesn't want to do.
I guess like Adios and Old Snake are like, like your age is like a fucking, again, it's
the point and you're clearly like coming in at the at the at the the den you mount, you
know.
Um, you know, I got to say, you know what, you know, I'm like, how come there's not more old people?
And then I remembered, Final Fantasy VII, good old Sid Highwind.
Sid Neffin.
Old man of the gang.
That's a right old age of 32.
32, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, no.
The tyranny of youth is upon us in video game land.
A lot of people are saying Joel and Kratos, but I feel like Joel and Kratos also represent like the oldest you can get while still being like kind of active and like,
Yeah, Joel is like in his 50s and he's like more physically fit than like my dad was when he was 35.
That's it, right? Joel and Kratos are, you know, they're pushing the limit of it.
But like, I would say like the thing that comes right after that point,
because we have to stretch to get these characters that are still buff Jack
and doing amazing things to fit the definition.
And I kind of think what Rem is going for here is like,
Oh, it's Snake is coughing up blood, man. He's He's been all he's snakes. He's a hyper wearing fuck
Yeah, like that's the point if you if it doesn't scream that you're stretching it
like oh like oh man, you know just blast into my mind
like this a very specific
And like this a very specific fucking image of snakes face where Sonny brings out the shittiest fucking eggs you've ever seen and he's like eaves like 85 and he looks at the
eggs and you can see the phrase I should just kill myself.
This fucking face.
No, I just, my brain just flashes back to old snake with a gun gore.
And it's 699, 99 flashing.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
So no, good point, good point.
There should be more games that have you playing as the elderly and not just aesthetically
but like the fact that
their old wraps into it's going on.
There's a lot to tell.
Like I do, I mean, I'm in my 30s and I have days in which like I kind of sleep a little
weird and like I'm limp into the store because my foot hurt.
Like and I can't even imagine what it would be like when I'm 80.
Oh shit.
It's okay. video game shit.
So, uh, Vesemir?
Yeah, Vesemir's oldest.
That's an old man.
This, this is what I'm actually talking about.
Yeah, looking at a picture of this dude.
Absolutely.
That is like 200 plus.
He's an old man.
Old man, old man looking looking wrinkled ass face.
Geralt is super fucking chiseled and hot by comparison to this old man.
Geralt, excuse me, excuse me.
I haven't heard it spoken.
You know, just that's fucking bullshit.
That is the most outrageous lie.
I've heard it spoken by everyone else here. Yes, I think I think if I'm experienced at
myself, I'll probably make that mistake. Sure.
Yeah, that this dude looks looks absolutely like he's got liver spots on his render.
Yeah, no, he's like, in narrative, he's like the oldest living witcher.
And they're like, how old do you guys live?
He's like, I don't know, because we all get eaten by monsters.
So like, there's no upper limit on their old age.
They're like crocodiles. Crocodiles don't on their old age. They're like crocodiles.
Crocodiles don't die of old age.
They either die of starvation because they can try big.
Or a lot of the heats them.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
All right, that'll do.
More old man gaming coming soon from Remarai.
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That's what Stairsat.
That's what Stairsat. And it will reverse us in there, yes. More old man gaming coming soon from twitch.tv slash that's there's that and
and we'll reverse it in there. Yes, but like it like we established the the
the fucking the silver hair looks cool. Yeah, I'll see if you want to check out
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