Castle Super Beast - CSB 248: 48 Hour Boob Window

Episode Date: December 19, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 МУЗЫКАЛЬНАЯ ЗАСТАВКА Oh Good afternoon, will they woolly quickly put your tits away. Oh, she missed it. Oh, she missed our shot missed it. There it was a 48 hour window. This is true. Damn Damn, you know, we had help we had plans. We had big unveiling Teddy plans and ass plans and everything. Oh Man and like, you know before we could even unveil any of that shit and get it all together, Twitch changed their minds. Oh my God. There was a-
Starting point is 00:01:09 It was like the most obvious thing that was gonna happen. A 48 hour boob window. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Man, it was, I remember looking at it and I, so it was a Woll-Dupre anyway, Twitch made a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, V-Tuber avatar, as well as depictions of quote unquote artistic nudity for art streamers so that the art streamers could draw classical nudity in an artistic style without having to worry that a nip slip in the background of some, you know, Greek shit would get them in the big trouble.
Starting point is 00:02:07 And I looked at this, and I looked at page, and she looked at me, and then we looked back at the rules, and we were like, oh boy, people gonna get on that bull shit. Yes. And it was like an hour before it started. It was like minutes. As we all know, in the tradition of ancient caravaggio paintings, making it clap, torquing it, dropping it to the floor,
Starting point is 00:02:32 down low, dummy thick. I mean, look, the, what, the immediate line of questioning I had from the moment I got that announcement, while we were alive, mind you, was like, yo, oh, you were alive. Right, I've heard about that while we were up and I was like okay hold on What is allowed and what is not allowed? It's like titties titties out loud right ass is allowed Titties or artistic ass. Yes. Okay popular dances such as pole dancing at Dinturkin and And such are allowed and they even gave an example that was like,
Starting point is 00:03:05 that way if someone gets a lap dance at like a wedding or something, it wouldn't be prohibited. So we wanted to make sure that we could do that. It's like, okay. All right, so. Sure. What then is the cutoff point, I suppose, right?
Starting point is 00:03:21 Like when, well, the cutoff point, as always. So it's always funny, because whenever, like an organization says we're clarifying the rules, you don't clarify the rules, you just move the blurry line over a couple of feet to a new blurry location. You know, because all of it was hanging on like, what is the word artistic mean? And we'll mark, it can mean all things to all people
Starting point is 00:03:47 Yeah, Reggie's take was you know, as long as you're not smiling while you while you're doing it So you got a pop the titties and you got to arc it out and you got throw it back But you got you got you got you got to be frowning while you're doing it, right? And so I mean to me in particular I'm like like you can So, to me in particular, I'm like, you can, like the act of just like having a cartoon character get naked and do a popular dance, if you crop it in just the white right way, that might be indistinguishable from whether that person is alone or whether there are other people in the room with them participating. And the sound effects might or might not imply.
Starting point is 00:04:27 So it's like, at what point does the artist draw the line and then look back at the audience? No. Right? And then if I see a boner in the audience, I'm covering it up. It's like, here's a torquing ass. Okay, now I draw one line.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Now that's okay, okay. Here's two lines. Oh, it's extra funny because like you saw some people just dive right into it and be like, new rules, everything is, but what is it? Nothing is true. Everything is permitted. And it's just like full blown. I forgot, I don't know who the V-Tubers name, but like that gigantic piece of art of like their character pulling their ass hole apart. Sure, yeah. Like full-screen.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Artistic, artistically. Hey, because it's artistic. Artistic, like. Yeah, I don't think that's, I don't think that's what anyone meant by that. And I think this meta was born from the like, I'm just gonna sit here naked with the camera cropping the barely meta, right?
Starting point is 00:05:25 No. And I think it was, the timing was a right on point that people must have been like, what the fuck with that versus art and then led to a bunch of boardroom discussions and then they came out and said, here we go, this is what we're gonna do. So there's so many things that are going,
Starting point is 00:05:40 so they rolled it back. Clearly people can't be trusted. We went too far. And they flew, they like, you know, like there's one thing to have your wings So they rolled it back. Clearly people can't be trusted. We went too far. And they flew, they like, you know, like there's one thing to have your wings melt. And there's another thing to have your wings fashioned into a rocket ship and just point it right at the sun.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Right? Oh man. So there's so many things that we're going on slightly, slightly behind the camera that is so perfect for one. Twitch has said that the reasons against, the existing rules set against nudity, blah, blah, blah, blah, was to make advertisers happier. But advertisers didn't actually require
Starting point is 00:06:18 that level of stringentness, so it seemed like a time to relax it, particularly with the old new meta Which is hanging out with your tits just barely not visible, but you know they're there You know they're there. You know they're there because that was because of the tube top rule, right? The second of which is because a twitch admitted this Yesterday I want to say maybe the day, that they were using AI to detect pornography. And the AI pornographic robot
Starting point is 00:06:54 was not good. Could not tell the difference. Could not. Could not distinguish. Could not tell the difference between pornography and artistic nudity. How about that? Yeah. And my personal favorite is that maybe this is
Starting point is 00:07:08 because we're old men now, but whenever somebody gives you a set of rules, like an adult, whenever an adult gives you a set of rules, there is always a hidden clause. And I like, I have termed it, and I've been using this for a while, it's the Get the Fuck Out of Here clause, which is when you go, I'm not technically breaking the rules. 100%.
Starting point is 00:07:30 And somebody looks you in the eyes and says, get the fuck out of here with that. But the problem is that exact bandwidth, that little margin right there, is what allows the platform to exist in places where it should be PG, and it allows it to access more a larger audience and let's it get in the hands of like like kids can reach that and such, but you just you have that margin, that little air that that place on YouTube where people are
Starting point is 00:07:56 doing naked yoga and breastfeeding, you know. Yeah, so I I was like, eh, what when originally I got to ask my, people are gonna do what they're gonna do. The kids can go anywhere they want already. You can't stop them, it sure never stopped me. And then I went on to the twitch.com and I decided to run a test. And the test was, can I get to pornography on twitch.com
Starting point is 00:08:23 with my mouse only? Okay, just clicking. And the answer was yes. And it took four clicks. That's pretty impressive. It took four clicks. Oh yeah, yeah. It went to browse, it went to the stream,
Starting point is 00:08:37 and then it went to link tree, and then on the link tree was a link to just straight pornography. I mean, the hot tub meta was also like a direct acknowledgement of all this, right? Like, so it's that that is not even remotely surprising. Incredible. It's good stuff. That's good stuff.
Starting point is 00:08:55 I, uh, so we missed our shot. We could have gotten our pepper. Or I think we said accidentally, well, I think you and I as we are not female presenting can still pepperoni it up, but that's without any issue But I kind of do miss here we go But that's the kind of thing though is like I'm you know, I do like there's a part of that that that level of the Instagram solution which is like Take take the titty picture and cut
Starting point is 00:09:23 Male presenting nipples out and stick them on top of the female nipples and now we're a okay Like I kind of enjoy those solutions and I was I was hoping to see some of that Evolved over time, but but sadly if it's this whole art is cut short premature So it's it's this one little thing where in my In my my twitch and discord rules for for my community or whatever you want to call it So it's this one little thing where in my Twitch and discord rules for my community or whatever you wanna call it, intentionally dancing on the rule,
Starting point is 00:09:54 the line is against the rules. Like, you know, when children, I'm sure you remember this, Wully, I'm gonna use my microphone for those at home as an example, but you can all imagine with your mind. I'm not, stop touching your brother. I'm not touching him. I'm not you remember this, Wolley. I'm gonna use my microphone for those at home as an example, but you can all imagine with your mind. I'm not, stop touching your brother. I'm not touching him. I'm not touching him.
Starting point is 00:10:09 I'm not touching him. I'm not, my mother would have thrown me from the car had I engaged in that behavior. And I think that we should push that ideology forward because I'm technically bringing you the shut up. Like shut up, but like the line will always be the most populated place. Like no matter where you pull it or push it, you know. And that's the...
Starting point is 00:10:35 I think with Twitch in particular, this level of just like, oh god, we didn't meet, we fucked up. The problem is that like if you are just an artist on Twitch, like it nukes the entire space. Like, you know, it just like scorches that earth. And so I don't know what has happened since, but I do know that in that, in that 48 hour window, it was just decimated.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Depending on your follow list and your particular, you know, things that you watched on Twitch. There were some... I was on just chatting for a little while earlier in the week and somebody sent me a fucking screen grab of their fucking Twitch recommendations in which I was like the only person in a grid of 30 that didn't have their tits out. And like the only one. And I was just sitting there, like talking about bullshit with the slay the princess title
Starting point is 00:11:33 and just going like, well, and I was talking about the Twitch meta in that thing. So I guess it counts. I don't know, man. I like, if that's the way that, if the meta just starts shaping the whole, reshaping the whole game over time
Starting point is 00:11:46 There is a universe where as the years go on Maybe the shirts get a little bit tighter, you know, maybe there's a little bit more neck-on display Maybe the you know what I mean just we get a little bit more risk a with the fashion and get I mean I'm sure there's a there's a very specific audience that wants to see like my fat gut just tight under some shirts. But I've been grinding in that gym for a reason, baby, let's go. Come on now. Ah, shit.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Yeah, yeah, perfect, perfect, perfect. And then there's the fun part where I spoke to some people like ever, so also everybody got banned. Like everybody got banned over the course of this two day period. Like every single person that engaged in this shit got banned and it was for two reasons. One, as aforementioned, get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:12:44 And two, there were streamers and individuals who did not like the rule change who were telling their massive audiences, go mass report every boob you see, everywhere. And so the mass reporting shit just took everybody down. And then the follow up to that is the fun part where you get to see where like people that were like fully nude or had fully nude like avatars, but were partners.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Got a single day suspension. Ah, partners got three days to a week for comparatively less. God damn it. Like I mean, so like you say like we can just hit up or within that within the window We can just hit up like a fucking soft core you could just browse a soft core tab And as long as it's it's within that That realm and nothing and everything is implied you can just scroll down a list and flip through all your fucking dojins And and and there's a, again, you just, as long as those black bars are in place where they need to be, you know. I mean, it's not obscene if the black bars are there.
Starting point is 00:13:53 The black bars really do hold back all the obsceneity. I think the idea of like just the most graphic drawn pornography I've ever seen in my life. It's just the 10 kids, so black bar. The 10 black light. Right, the lead place that doesn't cover anything is made in the place that I, oh my god. Oh man, like, like the veins are thicker than the black bar. I know, look, I did it. I didn't do a good job censoring it.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Sorry, sorry, sorry, I'm incompetent. Sorry, oh. Damn, uh, hell yeah, Japan That's great So the twitch meta has shifted once again on the move. Let's see darn. Let's see. Let's see what happens this time around And and yeah like artists just And yeah, like artists just... This looks good luck out there, guys. I mean, it's a fucking knife fight.
Starting point is 00:14:54 I think, when you're looking at the genuinely, when you're looking at the entirety of the rule change was hanging off the definition of the word artistic, which was not defined in the rule change and Twitch exists in the United States, which I'm not sure if you're aware. We'll see what the historical legal basis for the term obscenity is in the United States. I can't put a label on it, but I know it when I see it. Yeah, it's the gut of the observer.
Starting point is 00:15:30 So like, yeah, you're playing with fire. The thing that I did learn that I did not know is that game nudity was is okay with labels. So as long as you put up sexual themes as a category on the stream, then that's fine. And I just assumed that like all Titi fighters and that shit was just like not okay regardless. So, but I guess that Quilag is, right?
Starting point is 00:16:05 So I've dove into this, and I've, so the one good thing about this rules, that it has reclarified the game nudity rules, right? In particular, like, you know, you and I have played Baldur's Gate. Baldur's Gate had some tits and cocks all over the place. I clicked them off, but they are, they are present. And the rules have been and continue to be,
Starting point is 00:16:26 but are slightly more obvious, which is, listen, nudity as part of the core game experience, as part of its narrative or gameplay, Yada Yada, is okay, as long as neither the game nor the person streaming it makes it the explicit focus of the broadcast. Okay. So, if you were loading into Baldur's Gate and you happen to change off your character's
Starting point is 00:16:55 armor and they end up making it and you're like, oh, wow, damn, or there was a sex scene or whatever, that's one thing. If you were to load up Baldur's Gatewily and have a 90 minute stream in which you stripped every character down to nothing, zoomed in as hard as you can and started rating their fucking labia majora, right? Yeah, no, that would probably be against the rules.
Starting point is 00:17:18 We're doing a low-angle stream. We're doing a low-angle camera stream. Low-angle camera stream. Oh fuck yeah yeah okay because I mean you know even in even in the realm of your rumble roses and and DOA extreme beach volleyball you know if everyone is is is laced up with a venous bikini which is the one that was just dental floss and diamonds essentially. Yeah. You know, there was still some semblance of like, ah, the no-no bits are still covered, right?
Starting point is 00:17:54 And even in rumble roses, when you did the mud wrestling, it was flesh-colored mud, but it did create a ultimately, Ken and Barbie doll, like there is no, there's nothing on this play here, except for the curves while you played it in one hand and both. But if you were able to play something, if you were to say, hey, I want to play the Dojin fighter where the clothes fly off and the tits fall down
Starting point is 00:18:21 and then the sex scene afterwards is the reward. Yeah, that one. This falls underneath get the fuck out of here. Come on. Come on guy Guy come on. Yeah, hey, come on. Hey, I see you. Yeah, I see you. There was a there was a titty fighter that I was playing That I that was like an indie titty fighter that I didn't know was one like we started messing with it We're just like oh yeah, here we go and then oh man, man, and it was like, it was like, it was definitely like meant to be like, okay, you're, you're buying this because look at them jiggles, look at the bounce, look at all the different girls.
Starting point is 00:18:53 But like, I didn't know that it was just out and out where you go to the costume editor screen. And then it's like, yeah. This, like, it kind of, it kept it kind of contained slightly until you entered like the dress up menu. And it was like, what do you want to do? Yeah! Yeah! This, like it kinda, it kinda contains slightly until you entered the dress-up menu. And it was like, what do you wanna do? Where do you want that camera boy?
Starting point is 00:19:11 Let's go, what? It was all in. Shit was wild, you know? It was like, oh fuck, okay, glad that I sculpted out in advance where to go and where not to go. I'm sorry, everyone. I seem to have accidentally purchased pornography. My mistake.
Starting point is 00:19:28 I mean, you know, like, you know, like we played it and like I was like, look at them bouncing. They're going for their thing. And like, yeah, the reward certainly was like, and like, no, you can just, you can just strip it all off and go all the way. I'm sorry about the pornography, my mistake. Well, I guess, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:52 What a stupid fucking, what a stupid fucking thing. Damn, I was almost ready to go with my whole modified getting to fighting games intro. Who thought the shit replaced? Who just jiggles and booms and bounces, baby. Age 99. Yeah. Good shit, Twitch. Never change. And by that, and by that, I'd be keep changing and then undoing it. I mean, I'm actually surprised that it, I'm surprised that it took two days. I expected it to roll back within half an hour, a day or be like a weird problem for like two weeks, right? Like I, like, but you, like my whole,
Starting point is 00:20:49 like I just like you, you have to embrace or like, or coward, or lock, coward down and lock it up as much as possible. And with them going like, you know what, there's now a category called hot tub because we thought about banning this and then we saw the cash rolling in and we went, you know what? How about we embrace it instead? Let's say we need to take it under
Starting point is 00:21:12 advisement. I absolutely would have believed there was a world where over the weekend a new category called Gat has been introduced. And you could just set that as your stream browsing. As your tag, it just be like, hey, if you want to find that you know where it is. We've got the Gat tag, but where are we going to get the Rizzler tag? Yeah, well, the Rizzlers are all in the chat, you see. They're all trying to raise up the I Feel like the Rizzler is like the shittiest Batman villain of all time
Starting point is 00:21:52 Just some fucking pickup artists that keeps trying to fucking nag Batman um And then of course well anyway Like that's like I'm just like so do you like do you pretty much make it so that like you can click play on a zone animation and then like stop it 15 seconds maybe 30 seconds like how far how many seconds into the zone animation are you allowed to go before twitch is like You can get past the intro we've established this right? It's like the ideal scenario is that you have someone who knows what the fuck is going on standing there. Hey
Starting point is 00:22:42 Hey, I see you. I fucking see you. Put that shit down. I know what you're doing. And Twitch apparently thought that a fucking robot could be that person. No. No. See, I just, what Zoe needs to do is just put a fancy like artistic frame around it, you know, and just have that be the border of the window. It's like it's hanging in a gallery, and what can you say? And maybe even have like people's coming by and just like, hmm, yes, hmm, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:14 and there's no question of its artistic value. Anyways, good shit. I, just before, as we were starting actually, I got a call and I looked at my phone and I was like, it's one of those ones where you're like, you're right on the line between being a surefire or robo call or a real one and I can't quite tell because the ID is, there's plausible deniability in it. And I just kind of realized, I was like, you know, like I definitely always felt that phones, the phone call was gonna die out because of,
Starting point is 00:23:59 you know, voice over IP or just online ability to video call and things like that or and such and that has been a predictable outcome. But I never really expect it as well that the phone call would die out simply because you cannot trust your phone when it rings anymore. Yes, a phone spoofing has become incredibly powerful. It's insane, right? And the fact that the ability to spoof someone's to get someone's number No longer requires them to trick you into getting it from a website you entered it in or buying it from an advertiser It's simply like just grabbing it from the air
Starting point is 00:24:38 It's like oh the entire phone call is completely worthless unless it is a pre-arranged meeting that you have texted somebody to go, okay, I'm going to call you now and this is the phone call we've confirmed and we were having. Holy fuck, is it just dead or whatever? I have my phone on permanent silent and there are only three people that can call my phone that will cause it to ring. What is my wife?
Starting point is 00:25:07 The other is my mom. Yeah. And the third is the lady that baby sits the baby sometimes so that when we mean Pedro over here streaming and she has to call us and be like, where the diapers at or baby needs more milk, it fucking rings. It's crazy, like there's just no real need for it. And I'm in again, I'm comfortable that way, but it's just really annoying when there's like,
Starting point is 00:25:34 you know, you have to, you do, if there's like a business or appointment or things like that where you do expect a call at some point and you're like, fuck, now I have to stare at this thing and be like, eh, you know, and it's like, ah, that looked like the one I was expecting and then you pick it up and it's bullshit. Oh, by the way, I should mention to the folks who are being like, Pat, how come you don't answer your dad's calls?
Starting point is 00:25:58 Because my parents always call me from their home phone and my mom is the one who always calls on Saturday or Sunday and then she passes me to, you know, it's that's how it works. But yeah, don't answer your phone. I have a, I have a sick new trick for people if you, if you want to never, to always know if a call is a spam call. And that is live in a place in which the primary language of the region is one language and then move to a far away state or province or country in which the primary language is different and don't change your phone number because all of my Robo call, like I get spam text messages all day,
Starting point is 00:26:48 asking me to a sublech, but check it out. It was on your account, Bouvou, and it's like, oh yeah, is there a fucking gift card for me in French? It's a thing that I've never used a French Amazon account my entire fucking life. Your leave for the show is waiting for your confirmation.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Yeah, absolutely. Hey, hey, this is totally, this is totally the Canada revenue agency texting you in French asking you for your social insurance number by text to give you a big refund. Here's the bank that you do not have, that you do not have an account at Letting you know that there's a problem with your your funds actually and you're gonna need to click here to Correct that problem even though well. Yeah, I got a fucking this bank. I got a fucking phone call from I'm using big fucking air quotes here fucking TD bank
Starting point is 00:27:44 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, a fucking case popular that doesn't exist from I'm using big fucking air quotes here fucking TD bank. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. A fucking case popular that doesn't exist outside the province of Quebec. I've also gotten it from the case popular Dijal Dane. And I'm like, again, never been there, never had an account. I mean, don't live within 5,000 kilometers of one of their branches. To be fair, even if it was a legit call from a case popular, you should treat it with the exact same amount of score.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Because fuck those things. They're financial institutions that are not banks, but regardless. I credit union for, for, for, yeah. I think one of the funniest things is that my phone will say spam. I answered a call that was listed to spam Probbabla once by accident. I wasn't thinking.
Starting point is 00:28:31 And it was like a legitimate survey from like the government. They're like, do you have time to answer a survey? I don't want anything we're just trying to get. And like, and I'm looking at it and like the fucking phone is telling me it's spam. Like these people are fucked. You imagine trying to run survey like, and I'm looking at it and like the fucking phone is telling me it's spam like these people are fucked. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Imagine trying to run survey for Census Canada and just fucking sit there and like just dial all day. Okay. Oh, I know it's still spam, but I mean it's not a scam. I think my volume is getting fucking. Yeah, probably. All right. So let me see if I can deal with that real quick.
Starting point is 00:29:05 I was trying to adjust my gain. So, be a man. If you want to send me a message that matters, leave a voicemail that I won't check for six weeks. BRB. Okay. Welcome back. Hopefully, loud or woolly?
Starting point is 00:29:19 Yeah, that should be fine. So, yeah. I had a week. Yeah, what's up, man? What's up? Tell me what's up. So, the, this Saturday. You're green now, by the way, congrats.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Yeah, I put on a little Christmas light behind me. So, there's the trees upstairs, so. We're Yoho Hoan. There's the trees upstairs, so we're yoho-hoin. Figured I'd put on the festive buttons. You celebrate in Festivus? For the rest of us. Feats a strike! Yeah, and I mean, look,
Starting point is 00:29:59 Punch Mom doesn't stand a chance, but the night ain't over. You don't know that, man but the night ain't over. You don't know that, man. The night ain't over. Still she makes a go for it. But she knows what happens when she messes with the warrior with these guns. See the fucking, you know what's happening over here?
Starting point is 00:30:16 What's been building up this year? Absolutely nothing, that's what. Actually, no, so this weekend, rather unusual, but Reggie and I went out to the boonies. We went out to Vaudroy if you know where that is. That's way out where. Yeah, that's the right sound, exactly. And there was a, we did commentary for a boxing event. There was a, like, boxing boxing? Boxing boxing.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Like human beings punching each other with their fists. Like the sweet science. Yeah. And we have some friends that are working at a gym and they decided to get into, well, I mean, there's always been these live events and such, and they'd have like, you know, amateurs and amateur profiles and stuff that would take place.
Starting point is 00:31:11 And yeah, they started getting into, you know, the like broadcast and stream game and stuff. So, you know, we got asked to kind of step in there and just have some fun with it. Do some color commentary. And yeah, we did. And it was a good time. It was a lot of fun, you know. Just again, you're looking at it like,
Starting point is 00:31:33 this is way outweigher, but definitely some people coming from different gyms around town that I do. I would really like to point out to those of you who are hearing based on my scoff and will he describing the boonies? Vaudre d'Oillon is not actually that far. It's like a single five minute trip across the westernmost bridge of the island.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Okay, but when you're going back... It's like Jersey, man. But like, it's so far from the core where like everyone lives in the center That you're you're writing over an hour out to get there like It's pretty fucking far. It's just like the island is not I mean the the island There's a part of the island that is like the middle part that kind of matters I lived on the South Shore farther away the fucking
Starting point is 00:32:24 Doria like yeah It kind of matters. Well, I lived on the South Shore farther away than fucking Doria. Like, yeah, like people who commute from Brossard to the city. You're, yes, you, the fucking Shadigay Bridge was, was your life for a while. So you do recall that, like, you know, distance. But wow, Valley Fields closer on the map than it looks than it feels. But yeah, it yeah, it's the, it was out there. And I mean, if you just go by like what you're surrounded by,
Starting point is 00:32:50 it's fucking farms and highway. Like, that's the real, like, metric is, you know, you can call it, say what you want about the distance, but just walk outside and do a 360. What's around you? You know, if the answer is fucking... Well, as soon as you leave every single major city, there's farms in highway. That's it.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Well, yeah, but it was cool. Just got to watch a couple different levels and definitely puts that nostalgic memory of when I used to go multiple times a week and be like, ah man, just the skill levels that would go from the beginners at the beginning of the night, a couple of kids just went in there and were touching gloves and messing around and then eventually up and up from the different weight classes to the super heavy weights that were just fucking going at it and you're like, wow, like it is a an awesome gradient of skill across the night. Which it's fun to see an event like it's fun to have events like that where like
Starting point is 00:34:00 you know if there's multiple matches and such at different weight classes and at different divisions of skill, you can kind of see the evolution of starting to be good, knowing what you're doing, knowing what you're doing enough to get in the ring all the way through like, okay, you're dangerous to like, you're right about to go have professional fights. Did anybody in the boxing match get hit in the face so hard that their brain flew out of their head and landed on your table? Not that hard, but there was their first stoppage. There was a match that led to two standing eight counts
Starting point is 00:34:36 and a stoppage, which is pretty unusual unless someone's getting completely fucking destroyed. And if you try to match people up so that there are approximately a good fight for each other. But yeah, it was there was definitely an 8-10 round that that happened at one point and they're like, alright, that's the first one they're calling. But you know, it's just yeah, it's just a lot of fun to see and to do. And of course, like the, I think even without being able to like pull into a history of boxing and like pull from a lot of references and things like that, just calling it as it is is from what you see doing color commentary and play by play and relying on the kind of type of commentary we've done in the past and shit like yeah you're capable of translating that skill into things like this and into other competitive sports
Starting point is 00:35:35 and you know the friend in particular that like invited us out there was talking about how like there's absolutely I mean like it's not just like fighting game analogies there's a lot of things, I mean, it's not just like fighting game analogies. There's a lot of things you can pull from to improve your boxing game and to get better at it. But like, I remember one of the coolest ones, and I think I talked about this on the podcast before was George St. Pierre in UFC, like was discussing how like he had some guys on his team that figured out the tech where they started
Starting point is 00:36:06 watching tape of their opponent's fight and they would slow it down, frame by frame, to see exactly how fast the opponent can punch and kick and then give that a rating for speed. And he's describing this tech and everything that they have and how they can qualify and put up a full file on how the fighters like different attacks are ranked and how quickly they return in such an instance like you're describing frame data you're using frame data in real life. A frame data pre-dates.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Boxing. It pre-dates, uh, pre-dates fighting games. It's the first time I can remember hearing about frame data was like football. And it was so wild because in this context like Someone took that I did that concept and then just brought it to The game really late and it was like wow look at this novel technology Which you know like surely someone that came from competitive gaming must have just been like how do I take this one to one and bring it over here? And then it's so many, you know, and the chat points out that horse races
Starting point is 00:37:08 are probably the first point that you saw frame data. The only difference is, is that it had a frame of one finishing line, right? The photo finish is frame data, it's just one frame. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it's pretty nuts how like, you know, that stuff makes its way into real life. But yeah, I know those... Fighting games are real life too, Willy.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Don't sell them too short. But it was super fun to just kind of try that out and see how it was. And yeah, and it's also like a fun to kind of recognize a couple names and things from the gym that I went to and stuff and see. Like, oh yeah, okay, some of these people have like other fighters and they're stable and, you know, like expanded outwards and did their own thing. Boxing so fucking cool, man. God,
Starting point is 00:37:56 like, there's just, like when you're seeing someone that's just like really good at it, like in their element. There's just so much fine motor control in like every step, every rotation, the hips, like everything about it is like, there's like, there's all the shit you can observe, and then there's all the things you cannot observe, which are even more impressive, you know? which are even more impressive. You know, at one point, just describing like how how you, someone's got a lightning fast jab, like how the, how's the, his opponent gonna deal with it? You know, and it's like, there's a, there's a, an element of that where
Starting point is 00:38:40 if you're just, when you're first learning to like move and avoid and dodge and weave and get out of the way and shit Trying to look at someone's fist. It's trying to look at the glove is way too slow your eyes can't you're not gonna react to that Oh, there's so much right. There's so much fun sports data on people's vision my particular favorite is My particular favorite is baseball fans breaking down the mathematics on a fastball and discovering that the human arm can't move fast enough to react to the ball once thrown. So everyone's swinging is actually swinging based off of the fucking pitcher's body. Exactly. Because you can't see the ball.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Yes. When you're squared up with somebody, right? You're looking at their shoulder and you're looking for the shoulder tense. You're looking for that moment of flexion right before the jab comes at you because that's gonna be the start up in the beginning of what you can recognize
Starting point is 00:39:43 is gonna happen there. You can also look at, and my friend was pointing out, you can also look at the waist as well to start to see the rotation. Of course, you can be susceptible to getting fainted, you know, if you're, or, but you can steal signs. Or you can steal signs with electric fucking buzzers under your shirt. Bro, if you want to get into sign stealing, you need to play Yaka's a five in which that is like a pillar of that game's plot line is the drama around baseball sign stealing.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Man, you just go far enough into the future and it's like technology not being banned or things being in the gray zone, like fights and hockey and shit. It's like so not being banned or things being in the gray zone, like fights and hockey and shit. It's like, so then what is it? Like it's always, it always seems to just be like, does the refs call it or not, you know?
Starting point is 00:40:33 And then you get those moments where like the ref makes an objectively horrible call, but it is the refs call to make and that's how the game goes, you know? I mean shit, hockey is still to my knowledge underneath the rule set of how much it's against the rules is whether or not the guy you hit suffered traumatic brain damage or died.
Starting point is 00:40:55 I mean, that just happened. You wanna, I mean, speaking of both, like there was just a UFC fight where a really shitty ref, like watch the guy get knocked unconscious and then continued to and didn't stop the fight and then the guy continued to hit him and he woke back up and tried to defend himself and then got knocked unconscious again. And like that's like potentially like that's absolutely life changing, potentially career
Starting point is 00:41:21 ending just because the ref doesn't know what they're doing, you know. And what if I, hey, I have a crazy idea. Here we go. All right. What if? Yep, yep, it's been a minute since that's worked. Let's go. No, okay.
Starting point is 00:41:37 No, all right. I'm going to a slightly different old-fashioned. You know how you call out my bit when I say your name? Oh, I know. So I know. Oh, trust me. All right. I have a phrase that I use.
Starting point is 00:41:48 You is more tone. Mm hmm. What if I, you know what they should do? Is that so? Yeah. No, no, this is not, you know what they should do. Oh, okay, okay. But what if I had a bunch of money and I spoke to the ref
Starting point is 00:42:01 and then I gave the ref a bunch of money so that the ref was my friend. And then my friend really likes me and gives me the benefit of the doubt when I punch that guy in the back of the head like I'm not supposed to. I see. Yeah. I mean, so technically the ref is supposed to be part of an association that is unbiased and verified, burp, burp, burp, burp, burp, and then that's why, of course, you know, multiple fighters that, like, whenever a deal goes bad and it's like, I will only fight you on my home turf in my home, uh, uh, and you're always like, that's ridiculous. My people. Not really, man.
Starting point is 00:42:45 You know, with my complete per specific arrangement so that I can stand right here. God. Or what if instead of me giving him the money, Jimmy the lip gave the ref a bunch of money. So they'd be Jimmy's friend. Ah. Yeah, so you know, this like, I think, I think embracing technology and embracing a camera
Starting point is 00:43:09 to make a call that's better than a ref is the fairest thing to do as we go into the future because this, like, yeah, the baseball shit is absurd and insane. Oh, I have a question. It's tangentially related, but you or chat may know. But I remember there was a long standing historical problem with soccer slash footy in that the breaths on the field were god and objectively refused the use of video technology for any calls under any reason.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Did they ever change that? I don't think so. No, ever change that? I don't know. That's crazy. I don't think so, because I feel like we would have heard about it. I know that football, when I was growing up, it was similar
Starting point is 00:43:53 and then they eventually implemented the timeout rule where you could challenge the refs call. So in the NFL, there was a point where you can spend a time out to go fuck you, you stupid dumbass, go check the replay on that. I know you're wrong. And if you're in the opinion, and if you are wrong, then you get your time out back and
Starting point is 00:44:11 they undo the call. Or if the call out was, if the team was wrong to call it out and the ref was right, then you lose your time out. You know? I don't know how. I mean, like, you know, obviously we're just diving back into making fun of Europeans and the world for watching soccer, but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Like, I don't know how you can sit there and have your favorite player like obviously dive and like pretend to be a pussy and then see the ref is looking and then get right back up and not just turn the TV off and walk outside. I don't know how you do it. It's so gross, man. Yeah. And, you know, like it's like the rest word being the word of God is like,
Starting point is 00:44:57 it's also coming from a thing where you go back and, you know, not even, like in pretty much contemporary history, like within this century and there's examples of like, like teams getting like killed and shit over the results of games and stuff, like it's so fucking like nuts in particular in some places where the sport is, is that dead serious? Or it's like all the more reason why a human being should not be making this call. Get a fucking camera. Get your get all that tech you have to, to have an instant replay and use it to be precise
Starting point is 00:45:32 about what's going on. Hey man, you wanna get really into it? You wanna get real fucking into it? Let's talk about the Olympics judging every sport that has no objective criteria at all. This is sure. Sure. Right. You mean, hey Russia judging this year criteria at all. Tissue. Sure. Right?
Starting point is 00:45:45 Hey, Russia, judging this year and coming in at top marks for the Russian judge is Russia. The location. What the fuck? The location selection is the most corrupting in the world to begin with. Why would the games themselves not be fucked? Of course. You know. I don't understand. And then people from
Starting point is 00:46:07 the country that is performing in front of them are allowed to vote on them at all. And then on the other side of the fallible ref discussion is you want to talk about current news, right? So Dremont Green just got suspended indefinitely a basketball player from the NBA, because he had this particularly egregious turn around and knocked a guy down, hit, but you just look at the instant replay of, look at the highlights of this dude's career, and it's just him dropping galactic of fathoms on people
Starting point is 00:46:42 while I'm making it look like a mistake like Imagine a career of like waiting for the rest. I've fell down. The ref's code of vision is here And the moment it goes this way you drop a heat action on your opponent and then continue playing the game Like there's one in particular where like a dude drops down Like there's one in particular where like a dude drops down and he does a Yamazaki Stomp like he gets his foot up in the air like sumo height and Baw and then jumps off and goes like whoa what happened You know it's insanity and like the whole thing is predicated on the ref going Oh, I don't know it looks like two guys fell over anyway back to the game
Starting point is 00:47:30 Like straight up dropping fucking level three haymakers on people, you know I'll say I'll say one thing and this is this is a compliment to soccer I think I think I think At the end of the day in a competitive sport I think at the end of the day in a competitive sport. And I don't know what this says about my personal perspective, but I think I can respect a guy like Zadan, the soccer player who tried to sneakily headbutt the piss out of that guy, knocked him right over under the ref's nose more than the guy who gets pretends to be headbutted and falls over right? It just we couldn't we couldn't get robots on the field sooner soon enough man. Fuck it. I think we should, I think we should, if we do have the robots,
Starting point is 00:48:29 oh wait, what do you mean by what do you mean by that robot referees? Oh, I thought you meant like robot boxers and football player. No, no, no. Um, No, no, no. What the fuck was in Kotor? Was it Goto or Goto? Remember Goto? Yeah, the floating orb. Yeah, I want that to be the referee. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:48:58 I want a floating caber orb on the field that just is in for all sports is the thing that just like and I think shoots a red card at you. I think if you have robot boxing though you should have the consequences of that boxing match applied to the pilots. So like at the end of the match you look at the robots and you're like all right we're gonna have to whip this guy's like we were like 20 minutes like 20 minutes. Okay, recreate the damage, I see. So it's not animate damage where it happens in real time. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:49:30 So they're like, oh man, I really got a tight knock. Aw. Cause you know, cause I mean like when my gun plot takes damage, I gotta be like over here on the side going, ah! You know, but yeah, okay, no, I'm following, I'm following. You know what? No, no, I'm following I'm following you know what no no I I'm going back to what you're talking about just strap everybody to a fucking full-body electric chair
Starting point is 00:49:52 Damn, and I'm doing it again. I mean I was waiting for you know what they should do, but here we are Anyways, it was fun to do commentary for boxing. That was a good time. Shit. I'll tell you what, though, if somebody paid me to take a dive down, I go. Bye. My career's done, bye. And, you know, I mean, like we can say this, but I'm not going to pretend that like the desktop on the OBS setup that was streaming the games did. I'm not going to pretend the wallpaper on that was not just mega low box. Of course it was. So this is like a fucking do you want it just do you want it to be Joe? Mega low box or fucking
Starting point is 00:50:36 Epo. You get those are the three places we're going. But don't let anyone know. Don't be that, don't be that dorky, don't be that dorky manga kid. You gotta be there. There was a hit the bags and there was a a TikTok creator I occasionally would watch. No, it was YouTube creator. Forget his name though, but he did like here's analysis of old-fashioned boxing shit and he'd go back to like black and white footage of old boxing shit and tell like a little story. Jack Johnson. It did, one on Jack Dempsey. Okay, yeah, yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 00:51:12 And showed off the actual, actual, dead-lead footage of the Dempsey rule. I think I've seen that video. I think I've seen that exact video you're just, you're just saying. Yeah, and then he had a follow-up video that was like, what are you people talking about in my comments? What is this airplane noise? Like, what the fuck is he doing? And like then a follow up to that going, okay, so I've watched how G-Menoepo and
Starting point is 00:51:48 The tears takeaway was that the person who wrote it fucking loves boxing. Yes and makes it look like so looks Everything was more exaggerated and cool, you know, but the actual Dempsey role is just leaning in and fucking The momentum never stops, but it still looks like boxing. Do what you're telling me? The actual Dempsey role doesn't leave a fucking blue shadow image. Look, man, I've had to do my bobs and weaves and step in and step out,
Starting point is 00:52:15 so I still haven't gotten the after image every time. I'm really, really trying to get it going and I can't. You know, also it's not really supposed to be a figure eight. It's like an infinity mugen symbol. It's kind of more of an out, it's more, you know, but anyway. I've said it before, but the world is big enough for the absolute nonsense, Prince of tennis slash I shield 21 representations.
Starting point is 00:52:50 I can't, the dinosaurs. I'm super down with the dinosaurs going extinct because of my fucking serve, right? Like, I fucking, it's the only thing I know about Prince of tennis. It's the only thing I've ever seen was the fucking serve that kills the dinosaurs. I'm very, very satisfied with that,
Starting point is 00:53:09 but I'm also satisfied with a slam dunk-esque realistic take on the thing, you know. There's more than enough room. All right, beyond that. Yeah, I booted up and I played some dredge. Oh man, dredge is just so godly. It's so, it's really good. It's really good.
Starting point is 00:53:30 And it brought something interesting to my attention about these types of games that I'm, it's because I'm still pretty early, right? But I've made it to like the second set of violence. Right. And I definitely, I was not expecting it to be so relaxing. You know, like the moment, because given the nature of it being like,
Starting point is 00:53:52 there's horror in the deep, you know, I was expecting a much more tense experience, but. Fishing's just chill. Fishing is super chill and then the horrors are, if you're not watching the clock properly, you know. Yeah, real nice just boating out there. I love that. And, you know, all the things that I enjoy about a nice, a nice sail on the open water and
Starting point is 00:54:12 a fun little fishing mini game. That's easy and simple and just, you know, and each, each area, each type of fishing has a slightly different kind of easy fishing mini game. But the different types of fishing mini game, like I like how that switches up as well. And then outside of that is just like discovery, threat, upgrading your boat, you know, the fear, the panic. All of that is just really well done. I do, but like there's something that is really interesting
Starting point is 00:54:37 that I'm curious about in these games, right? So far, I've had minimal hostile experiences and encounters, and I've had overall, like, a lot of that has been mitigated, but it's also because I'm playing like a good boy. And so this is where I kind of think about game design, and I wonder, right? If there's a game that tells you not to do something and then you won't get in trouble and then you stick to it and then eventually the game's supposed to tell you, okay, well now you have to break the rules even though we told you not to a little bit and so it kind of introduces in this case by saying, hey man, get back to port before night. You don't
Starting point is 00:55:22 want to be out there at night during the night and you're like, okay, and I'm a good little boy, and I'm like, fight, and I pull back in before it gets too dark. And a couple of times it got a little bit past seven, and it got to eight o'clock, and I was like, oh shit, I saw some shapes out there, I saw some eyeballs, some things are getting scary, but I'm for the most part avoided it. And then it's like, oh, well, I need you to catch a squid,
Starting point is 00:55:42 and that you can only catch at night, or I need you to go. And then you're making, oh, well, I need you to catch a squid and that you can only catch it night or I need you to go And then you're making longer and longer trips, which are gonna necessitate But being out later, but that ends and then eventually yet So I went to night and I got like the first of the the second treasures that I was supposed to find You know, which you do at night too and I like had one of these like scary encounters, but I do wonder if, in games like this, if you do follow the rules and never really push it,
Starting point is 00:56:16 because my curiosity wants to know what's happening out there. So I'm kind of eventually gonna be like, let me just fucking, let me just fuck around a bit. But what if you're somebody who sticks by the rules of what the game says, and therefore never really gives it an opportunity to do its thing? You know, Wolley, I don't know if you knew this,
Starting point is 00:56:36 but you have directly segwayed into something I played this week in a violently direct way. Interesting. Okay. And then I played Slay the Princess this week. And the Slay the Princess, you get into the forest and a man says, you should go to the cabin and slay the princess.
Starting point is 00:56:57 And I went, okay. And they said, pick up that knife. And I went, okay. And then he said, don't talk to her. I went, okay. And then it said, stab her now. And I went, got it. And then it said, cool't talk to her. I went, okay, and then said, stab her now. And I went, got it. And then it said, cool, you're done.
Starting point is 00:57:07 And I'm like, all right. And then I got the fucking joke ending. And it kicked me back to the main menu with links to the discord and the fucking Reddit page on it. And I beat it in like, fucking 12 minutes. The obedient. And the lady who played the princess was in the chat going, yay, you did it.
Starting point is 00:57:26 And I'm like, I feel confused. Yeah. Like, I think I beat it. I did it what I was supposed to do. Why is the game over? And then, and then I was like, okay, maybe I'll do something different, I guess.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Yeah. But like, I could, an older or rather, younger version of myself would have gone, wow, that game sucks. Right, right. Steam refunds, goodbye. And the concept of the unreliable narrator being lost on the young one, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:57 not to mention the concept as well, which thank God there's been enough examples at this point so that like, it can be understood. But the game with like the multiple endings where each is a container as a part of the whole, you know, the Yoko Taro, the Zero Escape, you know, where you kind of are like, ah, there's a larger thing at play here. And each of these is just going for multiple experiences. Yeah, game ending as chapter ending.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Right, don't trust the literal direct series of steps to reproduce in front of you. But yeah, no, so in the case of Dredge, it was like one where I was like, huh, I'm certainly now pushing it a little bit more, but it's me inviting that threat in to my gameplay. And yeah, I do wonder if you really, I guess that I expect that there's going to be less
Starting point is 00:59:03 and less ability to avoid the threat, right? There's going to be less and less ability to avoid the threat, right? There's going to be less and less. And the threats become a lot more aggressive. Okay, okay. Because it's because that's also a bit of a paper's please thing too, right? You know, where it's like, are you following orders? Okay, well, eventually you stop, you should, you should stop having control over that, you know, but there was at least that that initial point where I almost felt like it's nighttime and I'm pulling into doc to take a nap and I look out at the darkness and I'm like, there's gameplay out there. Yeah, but yeah, still real, real, real.
Starting point is 00:59:45 But you have to get more capable to deal with that nighttime. It's not so much being a good boy. It says being LA out late at night for any length of time in the very early game is just going to break your ship. Yes, so that's what I quickly, like I did learn after those early encounters that it's like,
Starting point is 01:00:05 oh, you're not missing nighttime content as much as you are missing. Like, well, okay, you're not missing nighttime conversations and discoveries and encounters as much as you are missing nighttime things that will kill you and just completely fuck you up and then make you have to go, oh shit, fuck, fuck, get back to daytime. And then I guess once you realize that, it does kind of simplify things a bit and you're like, oh yeah, yeah, okay, right. It's not as if that thing in the distance that's moving around, what it eventually finds me, I'm going to enter some big location or
Starting point is 01:00:43 conversation or event. It's more just like nah That's gonna kill you you need to you need to get away from it. You got to know how to do a boat better or good or But there's always that like You know that part where I'm just like okay, I want to you want to see how the weirdness and how that that The the horrors that they're implying at do manifest themselves, you know? And I wonder, I guess, like, are there, because you are more at home in the survival horror game.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Yes. Um, you know, a category, and are there games where the survival horror? Yes. Whoa. IRL survival horror what's going on? What's going on? Okay, so I'm very sorry but for whatever reason the neighborhood birds think that our windows are not existent. And so like every couple of days, like a fucking sparrow or Robin will just fly into the window
Starting point is 01:01:53 on one of our windows. SICK. Very nice. Okay. We were like, oh, is it those windows over there that have the curtains on them? So it's like a black void. Nope. It's also the kitchen windows that cool. You could just see in our house from the backyard and the bird is like, oh, I'm gonna fly through that barrel. Well, you should go check if its eyes were glowing red because it might have stolen your fish.
Starting point is 01:02:22 Oh, man, that's shit, isn't it? Because that's unavoidable. You can't get away from that. Fucking sucked. I had a really good sharp. Yeah, especially when you get the weird rare fish. I got an aberrant shark and a fucking ticket. Yeah, but then yeah, you definitely learned. But I was gonna ask if there are games where like the horror is locked behind you
Starting point is 01:02:51 like wandering off where you shouldn't go. Or you know what I mean? Like doing the thing you're not supposed to do. Oh yeah, absolutely. And if following the instructions, you can just be like, well, you did it. You played the video game, the last thing happened.
Starting point is 01:03:03 I think of, despite not being Stanley Parable is, sorry, despite not being a horror game, a Stanley Parable. If you just follow the instructions. If you follow the instructions, this is very clean. If you aggressively fight the instructions, in some case, you're getting some really very strange, like not fun stuff.
Starting point is 01:03:20 But yeah, Porto, certainly. Brings to mind the most is like dying light in which the nighttime aspect of that game is horror, whereas the daytime aspect is action. People are mentioning lethal company, which I'm not personally familiar with. Yeah, that seems to be where you're doing a job
Starting point is 01:03:44 and then there's shit that can kill you, but you're trying to communicate to stay alive and do the job well. I mean, portal, another example of like, you can follow all the instructions. Right in the fire. Yeah, that's that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:02 But I did feel like kind of that little pull of like, hmm, I wonder if I should be pushing it a little bit, but yeah. That being said, real cool. Dread just more horror as like tone rather than mechanic. Oh, yeah. I mean, I, that thing, like, it'll get you with like besides like actual like threats in form of like whatever monsters and creatures and the unknowable things in the deep, there's just like, where the fuck did that rock come from? You know, like you're boating along and then,
Starting point is 01:04:35 oh no dude, that's the best, that might be the best madness effect I've ever seen in a game in which those rocks are absolutely not there when you weren't looking at them your lights just blind to you and then you know based on how good You're fucking like boat lights are it's like oh shit out of literally nowhere it spawns into existence those fucking rocks man Not to mention the and then another another little thing with the like it's like hey turn your lights on to see better in the dark Turn them off right so that you don't get seen if you ever need to be not seen and then another little thing with the, like, it's like, hey, turn your lights on to see better in the dark, turn them off, right, so that you don't get seen if you ever need to be not seen.
Starting point is 01:05:09 And then sometimes your lights just kind of come on by themselves anyway. And I'm like, I did not press that button, what the fuck? You know, I'm like double checking, I'm like, did I press what? Yeah, so, oh, anyway. Yeah, so that's a that's a that's a fun that's a fun little little one to definitely throw on and relax to and and slowly chip away at Good gaslighting mechanics
Starting point is 01:05:36 Yeah, gaslighting is an important part of many horror games any any horror game that has a psychological edge to it gaslighting is is very important any any Horgin that has a psychological edge to it gaslighting is is very important. I checked out the darkest dungeon to DLC with the binding blade which introduces the dualist and then later the crusader so you can eventually excuse me unlock Rena. And he's back. Yeah, he is. And so I just from streaming it, I did a run where like testing out the, the dualist, we got, and like getting some of her backstory and kind of figuring out the build. It just so happened that it's like, okay, now that you've learned this, it's also the worst setup you could have against the boss of the chapter that I was in. Like, chapter two has a boss that requires you to hit ranks that she cannot hit.
Starting point is 01:06:38 That's rough. But either way, though, like, it took a second to kind of figure out like what are they going for with this build and It I like I like what they did is they created a character that is a Front rank brawler. So there's a lot of characters that are like a lot of classes that are heavy hitters that stay up front and then there's like Versatile Like grave robber or Highwayman that can like kind of play between ranks two and three and or be good up front as well. They can move around and they have like repost and things like that.
Starting point is 01:07:13 And like so she's a little bit of both. She lacks some of the explosive damage of the heavier class abilities, but she has the ability to like counter damage incoming and switching stances is really cool with her as well. So yeah, she kind of just ends up being like a dualist, you know, she, like as the name implies, like she's a offenser that can do things like switch between offensive and defensive stances and like as you basically style switch and get access to different abilities in each style, you can also command other people on your team to get extra turns.
Starting point is 01:07:52 You can give yourself extra counters, you can stab from the back row all the way to the front, and she's a really fun mobile class. If you play a particular group that is all self-sustaining that can heal themselves and move around and attack from each rank You could have a very fluid team. That's good, you know So that was a fun new class that I think is is interesting and as you unlock more of her her back story and more of her abilities Like it starts to make a lot more sense what her game plan is, you know? You, in particular, want to give her time to, like, set up her, her stances and then do something devastating
Starting point is 01:08:36 or get into rank to, like, give someone an extra turn or so. That sounds like a lot of work. What about Renard? Does he hit people with his fucking sword? So, I just unlocked Renal, and I didn't get to do a run with him yet. It's our Renard, not Renard. Renard. Um, yeah, so he, you have to do a whole side quest with him that involves multiple steps of like tracking down where he's at, what happened, and all these bits and pieces, and then eventually you get to a
Starting point is 01:09:12 boss and then you unlock him, I just got him so I haven't had to try yet so you know I'll report on that later but at the very least if he's like similar to the way he used to play then that should be fine I expect him to swing the sword and then hold that fucking banner up and make people feel bad for their sins. And look at this. Look at this. You feel bad? Look, you can't read, huh?
Starting point is 01:09:33 That's embarrassing. Yeah. But good stuff with that. Also some good quality of life adjustments to the game. I think I talked about it a bit last week, but just like, yeah, things like making the enemy, enemy death store is now much more predictable and you can plan for it. It's not going to be like 10 times to just throw it bad and the enemy stays alive and zero health. So, I know I'm a total amateur at Darkest Dungeon 2 and like I had the whole thing about
Starting point is 01:10:03 the caravan of Aago, but like when I was playing it, I had a couple of rounds where I was fighting, you know, the chapter one, not even the boss, but like the micro boss at the end of like a dungeon. The layer of the boss. Six hits at zero, and I'm like, what? What? This is just, this is me.
Starting point is 01:10:22 It's just unfair, yeah, yeah, no. Like I won Like I won. I won. Five times over. There are, there are, that's what keeps it dark as dungeon, even though the game has like, it had like, there's things that they've let up on, but there's bullshit where you're like,
Starting point is 01:10:37 I'm being robbed of my ability right now, you know, or like, you're on Death's Door already, and you were, you're bleeding, and like, you know, or like you're on Death's Door already and you're bleeding and like you survived the death blow But the next turn it's the bleed out that gets you or just you know Or like you go to heal yourself with like the the occultist and he crits So he does like a super heel for zero, but it's a big crit zero You know Me absolutely mean what it wants to be. But yeah, still just a lot of good stuff there.
Starting point is 01:11:16 And of course, you know, the back stories are really dope as well for at least the duly swans that have completed so far. So yeah, definitely, you wanna, oh, something I appreciate too, they've done is the ability to save, move, and team loadouts so that you can quickly just go back in with the same team. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:11:37 That's a big deal. Humongous, real, real nice. Like a team loadout, like this is the team that I really like and ran. Oh, yep, because I got really quick with like, oh, I know which ones I want for my what build, and I know how to just, I'm gonna like, okay, go over to Grave Robber,
Starting point is 01:11:56 set her to Night Sworn, give her lunch, give her pirouette, take off the pick to the face, give her absenthe, and just like, duh, duh, duh, give her absinthe, you know, and just like, okay cool. But now we can just, yeah, spare that moment. And in particular, when there's bosses where you're like, oh, I'm going to fight the the burning library, right? I'm gonna have to hit the back rank. So switch to all your characters with the ability to hit the back rank instead of their usual you know roles and such, especially against the mountain boss especially you know.
Starting point is 01:12:29 So yeah, quick save loadouts, quick save move sets, quick save your team. Real happy about that. So yeah, shout outs to the... With Renold there. Why do I keep saying that with the elite night set from Dark Souls now back on the roster? You can call him Crusader. Is there anything in the like,
Starting point is 01:12:55 cause when I looked at it, I felt like Crusader was the only like piece that was like, this is missing. This is obviously missing. It is crazy that Crusader is not here. Do you feel that there's anything like the game is now currently missing? But it's like more complete.
Starting point is 01:13:14 I get that, I would love to see the How and Master come back. I would love to, you know, the How and Master's are really cool like you and the dog doing picking targets, sending out the How and S Harry. Really good at hitting all four ranks and taking away their dog's tokens and things like that. But I do know that it's like, hey, this is a brand new engine and we're starting from scratch, so we're not going to have, and they want to bring out new character and new classes in addition to some of the old. So the lower reasons are like, the, as the world has gone dark,
Starting point is 01:13:48 the holier classes are gone, you know? The more religious classes, just there's no room for that anymore because like the academic has fucking unleashed hell, you know? But as a decent setup for this, like they're coming back with like little like, you know, like here's, they even have like the antiquarian, which is another class that was like originally playable,
Starting point is 01:14:12 but now it's a boss in the game, you know? Or it's like, I could see them being a thing where like they're like, okay, we made the antiquarian playable if they wanted to, but each character, I feel like because there's so much that goes into them now compared to the first game, I understand that the frequency of release is much lower. Oh, yeah, it's definitely more work than a fucking single Set of art assets and the ability tree. I would say one character in this in tar in two is like the depth and and
Starting point is 01:14:40 complication of like three in the original or so. You have, instead of the four moves to pick from you have your five, and then your four moves to roll with your five, but then you also just have that many more that you get out of a really detailed backstory puzzle system that is often really well done and well thought out. So yeah, but that's pretty much the only thing.
Starting point is 01:15:02 And that's just a preference. I would like the Howe Master. I thought that was a fun build. Or even if they wanted to find other ways to make them playable, like the bounty hunter being a one-time hire, for example. It's like, here's a playable character that is limited in how you use them and such. Even if it was stuff like that that could be fun, but
Starting point is 01:15:29 Yeah, I would mind I would mind that Still a fucking sick ass game and I you know, I continue to recommend it beat pizza tower strong finish. Really strong pizza finish, strong pizza finish. Really, really fun last boss that unlocks a like special last boss mode that the character goes into. So, you know, there's stuff that there's some there's some stylish shit you can do in that in that final challenge it's like ah here we go
Starting point is 01:16:07 right everything hype up the music gets going it honestly like so the last boss fight kind of goes full cup head on you right there's like like in gameplay and in some of the music and tone it goes into like a cup head vibe, which is really really fun. And then, the thing that you, I mean, it's no real spoiler. As you play through the game walking around the pizza tower, you can see the pizza time blocks all in position. So you know what's coming eventually. And sure enough, you have a nice big pizza time for the ages as you make your way out. You know, if you're a fan of your, get the fuck out of Dodge, Metroid escape moments. You get a real good one. I can see what you mean.
Starting point is 01:17:08 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not what I thought... That's not what I thought that was gonna be. It's real hype. It's real hype. It's great. Short and sweet. And a game that demands perfection if you want to fucking ass-rank it. And in particular, I got to watch that I went and I watched a replay of there's a level that is on a timer. It's called war. And if you don't hit your timer refresh, you're kicked back out to the sky. Right. So you have to just like make it through
Starting point is 01:17:45 and like always be wary of the time or running down. And the extra challenges for P-Rank require you to do it perfectly, never dropping a combo. And then when you get to the exit, you go for a second lap. And you do the whole thing again
Starting point is 01:18:03 with this time without enemies, but just on a timer, you know, and it's like watching someone like do that as clean as possible as a fucking feet. It's really, really like a cool game to watch being played to to to maximum movement efficiency. Yeah, you just get, you know, a moveset that begs to be precisely mastered so that you can 180 and as you're sliding, that's just enough to fall off the edge, drop and then blast back the other way, making use of all your traversal mechanics and grabbing enemies and throwing them in the right direction. The whole thing is just like a momentum. So real awesome shit with that.
Starting point is 01:18:47 Strong finish, good stuff to pizza time. Yeah, and a pizza time, to pizza tower, that is. And that's pretty much it. So I wish pizza time didn't conjure the images in my mind that it does. Also, I always appreciate a fun end credit that has all the enemies walk and buy. And the only thing that you're missing
Starting point is 01:19:14 is the enemies getting their name and credits, almost like a docky con country or a Kirby game, or just starring, fucking King K rule. Whoever the fuck is in pizza time, We're just like starring you know fucking King K rule whoever the fuck is in pizza time pizza fucking god damn it. Hey, there's there's Pepino. There's Gustavo There's brick There's a there's a level full of literal pig cops There's all kinds of shit going on there. But yeah, anyway, so you can as always check our stuff out on Wully versus on YouTube and on Twitch. This week we're gonna be out in Florida, so holiday mat Surrey is going down and we are pretty much gone as of tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:20:05 Beware, Florida man's lives down there. The event is imminent. Therefore, we will not have anything streaming this week, but we got the video still dropping and such, but yeah, for this week pretty much up until, yeah up until right up until Saturday, we're gonna be gone. So if you are in
Starting point is 01:20:25 that area and you want to come chill you know me and Red you're going to be down there. I'm going to do you know some panels going to just be in the gaming room playing some matches if you want to you know come play some matches and stuff we're going to do some I think this I think it's called beat a pro quote unquote But that's more wonderful. Yeah, but that's more because Justin Wong is also there. But we'll be around and available. We'll do some some a bunch of events throughout the weekend. So come check out the gaming room at holiday Matt Surrey in Florida or Orlando.
Starting point is 01:21:01 And yeah, if not that, then we'll be back next week as usual. What's going on? Oh, that's think. What is going on? So, hey, you know what's a really fun experience? And I'm really glad that I got to dodge this experience. So I play it's play the princess, which is fantastic, uh, uh, strongly carried by its narrative design and voice acting in that it is a game made entirely out of narrative design and voice acting. Mm-hmm. Uh, but that narrative design and voice acting is fantastic in which aside from my earlier statements, I really don't want to say anything about it other than shut up and you should probably play itay the princess. A VN is a really a VN maker is a really simple thing where you just put text and an images together. But if you do that sufficiently well, you can create.
Starting point is 01:21:57 Put all the images and the voices in the right order. You can create a really good game out of it. Though it is a very specific, very specific pet peeve of mine that can't be avoided and it's just the nature of things where I played Slay the Princess and I was like, wow, that was so cool. I can't wait to stream that again next week. And then I woke up the following morning with the news, Hey idiots, slay the princess is getting a new super deep duper director's mode that changes and adds to all the existing parts. It's not a totally separate thing that is being added on. It's
Starting point is 01:22:40 the whole thing being remade into a better version. So if you're playing it right now, stop And wait and play it later the class when it's better You didn't play you didn't you didn't complete it right I played for one sitting okay? Yeah Well, I did as well, but you it's beatable in one sitting, but I assume he didn't. I don't... you are wrong! You are not right! Uh... yeah, you can complete it in one sitting, I did. But you don't get every single route there, but you can get a churrending in one sitting. No!
Starting point is 01:23:22 in one sitting. No. Do you listen? Okay, then I didn't do it and reality doesn't exist. You get out. Really? Yes. No, I'm lying. Like, you can do it in one sitting,
Starting point is 01:23:38 but you're not gonna get every single version of the princess. You're gonna get a multiple, but there is enough that you can do to get the Huh, yeah. Well shit, no, I barely scratched the surface. Okay, that's, well that means then that's good shit up ahead. I'm sorry, well I didn't mean to, I was mistaken. I was, I thought that game had more to it than I guess it did. So, I mean, without, to talk around around it if you haven't played it. I don't want to go into detail
Starting point is 01:24:28 but like there is routes and then there are a number of routes you can do to get to a finale But it doesn't require clearing every single possible variant route to get to the finale. It requires an amount of them. How many runs did you do? I don't remember.
Starting point is 01:24:55 Okay. Because I did four or maybe five and was nowhere, nowhere near what seemed to be anything conclusive. Yeah, I don't remember what the count was, but it does kind of... there is a mechanic for checking to be like, what's left? What more do you want? And then it kind of will be like, oh, you're getting close, or you're almost there, or you've got a way to go.
Starting point is 01:25:21 It'll kind of imply a little bit. But, yeah, you know, in any case, though, more routes is some cool shit because I've been told, like I said last time, I missed out on some woolly bait as I've been told in particular. So some of those screenshots of the DLC, the expanded content, whatever in the cases, yeah, feels like it'll be that warranted a visit that, you know, maybe you can get a true ending, seeing a completely different set. And that's a fun prospect. I think the game that did it to me the worst. Do you remember divinity? It's a prior to
Starting point is 01:26:06 BG3. Larry and made Divinity original sin two, right? Do you remember what they announced would be coming in the definitive edition for that game? No. A complete top to bottom rewrite of the third and fourth acts of the game I was in act I was like halfway through the second of act a second act and I was like well fuck that then I'm gonna fucking wait so and then Here we have the person of five Royale problem. Yeah, I Loved what I did and saw and got and I hear nothing but amazing things about what else Oh, I I played a bunch of royal but I'm like I spent so much time on that original Yeah, exactly. I just I don't have it man
Starting point is 01:27:07 I might not have it for a minute, you know, I was playing royal and I was like going through and I was like wow every Every sitting there was like a good 15% That was like oh this is new this is interesting, but I'm still redoing The same basic stuff. All right. Overall, I take just occurred to me. Tell me your takes, sir. I'm not sure of the temperature of it,
Starting point is 01:27:33 based on time, but also, uh, uh, egregiousness. But say what you will about the answer. It sucks. I will. I fucking will. I'll say plenty. It sucks. I will. I fucking will. I'll say plenty. It sucks. But is there something to be said about the fact that if you beat the original game, you could come back and play for answer, starting at a point that didn't require you to play through
Starting point is 01:28:00 the entirety? You're 100% completely right. 100%. It made at least, if you had beaten P3 when it came out and then they dropped FES and you played P3 FES and then went straight to the answer, it was a little bit better for somebody who already went through it than it would be to have to do the answer at the end of another run. I think Royale would have been improved
Starting point is 01:28:22 by being the Royale part would be three or four, three months added to the end of the game that everybody started at a unified level and the social links work there because you couldn't do that in that period of time or whatever. Selectable on the title screen in a different place. You know, like an expansion. You know, that's it, that's it. And it's just, I know that it also changes to shit on the way, it adds more and stuff,
Starting point is 01:28:50 but then again, so did Fess, right? So Fess upgraded the original game and added the answer. The X-ray month, yeah. Like I played fucking Kingdom Hearts II, and guess what? Kingdom Hearts II final mix is like a full point better than Kingdom Hearts 2 as a game in general. It's way better. It's way better. I mean, P4 versus the Golden is massive as well, right? I guess it's just, it's a little bit more
Starting point is 01:29:24 friendly to someone who's already gone through the game. If you, like, if you upgrade the base journey to be a better journey, awesome. And if you add the extra months that come on at the end as a separate thing you can load into directly, that would be nice too. That's pretty good. Because I think the first gate three. I'm gonna get back to Royale, but I just, I'm like, I don't know when I have that. It's just, fuck, you know? I think BG3 and Divinity Original Sin 2
Starting point is 01:29:49 are really fantastic, really fantastic examples because I don't know anyone. Like every single person in my Discord friend group has played Divinity Original Sin 2 for like 60 to 100 hours. I don't know anyone that's beaten it. And a huge proportion of that is because the fucking global restart that happened to them when the fucking enhanced edition or definitive edition got announced that was like, hey, by the way, the whole
Starting point is 01:30:19 fucking third act and fourth act of the game, we're not happy with it. We're going to completely do it over and it'll be free. And so they were all act two and three and just went, oh, Cal restart later. And then they restarted later. And also didn't finish it. And in many cases didn't even get back up to where they were in the last time. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:39 Yeah. And you see what Erlarian was asked about, like, are you gonna do a definitive edition for Balors Gate 3? And they were like, no, we're gonna patch it. And we've seen like the epilogue get added and the ability to recruit Mnthara be added and clean this up and clean that up because like the longer the game is,
Starting point is 01:31:03 the more unappealing it is to tell someone we're gonna make the whole game way better as a big package. It would be real sloppy, but I would even take a like, instead, like I would even take a like, hey, click here to not start a separate extra point part of the game, but click here to, like you said, load up a set of characters all stat, all stat, neutral that goes right to January, you know. Yeah, it's like, hey, persona game. Hey, we've added, we've added three more months to the game, but because of the way the game's linear structure works and all that, it's all at the 110 to 130 mark. Do you want to just go guys? It turns to powers. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:55 Remember how exhausted you were when you beat the final boss last time? Well, roll that exhaustion into January. This is where we say farewell. Is it? In to January Did we I love that fucking game Yeah, that's that's that's a lot that's asking a lot well I Mean asking a lot. Well, I mean, what should I call it? It's all be back to
Starting point is 01:32:30 slay the princess in that. Yeah, for four to eight months. When that shit drops. Cool, cool. I also played, I did a sponsor stream of Warhammer 40k Rogue Trader by Alcat. Mm hmm. Which I feel like if you've looked at Pathfinder Kingmaker or Pathfinder Rath of the Righteous and you know what Warhammer 40K is, the entire game just comes together in your mind and it's exactly that. Okay, so in Rogue Trader, where are you in this world of there's insane gods and soldiers and shitty humans and then bullshit underneath the boots under the ground? Okay, so where in the hierarchy of 40k needs do you fit? So 40k is a weird fiction because it's so grimdark and violent and non-discussion-based
Starting point is 01:33:30 that where the fuck would you put a goddamn CRPG? Well, luckily, if you dig deep enough into the Warhammer 40K nerd shit, you will find that there is a hyper-specific particular profession in the Imperium of Man called the Rogue Trader in which the Emperor wrote these big-ass rits of free trade to give them the permission to do anything they want as long as it technically benefits the Imperium in the long run. And this was an existing thing within the fiction. So the rites are these gigantic fucking like bust-sized pieces of parchment that are kept in, you know, robo vaults. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:18 Um, your respecter. And they allow you to talk to an alien instead of being mandated to shoot the alien by the Imperium. And so like your classes are basically implying you're a human being and you're either a psychor or an operative or somebody out of the Imperial Guard, but the team is like your character, like a commissar, something a psycho, a one space marine, et cetera. Humans, like mandatory human, a sister of battle, but you are allowed to talk to an L-Dar. So you are a filthy, basic human in birth,
Starting point is 01:35:03 but you have been given like high tier permissions. Yeah, you can do anything you want. Gotcha. Uh, which is really the only place a fucking Warhammer 40k CRPG could possibly go because you gotta be able to talk to people and run around planets and do quests and shit. Yeah, as the from the outside the impression I get is if you were to just go like, you can roll and let you could be anyone in this setting. Wouldn't 90% of the people in this setting have zero freedom to do anything and just be
Starting point is 01:35:34 scung. 99%. 99%. You're born into a life of whatever it is. Like you're on the grinder. You're born above a pit to fall and die. You know, yeah, okay. And after that, it's like, hey, have you played, it's an Alcat RPG. It follows there formula incredibly clearly in that character creation is either invigorating
Starting point is 01:36:00 or nauseating, depending on your particular desire min-max, you're never stop shooting stacks divided by the turns left on your character's action sheet, and whether or not that gives you a boner or a stomach ache. Do you see a dice roll when you do things? No, Okay. But more than anything, they really just like dive into the setting like super, super intensely because like you're fucking like you're, you know, the bottom part of the interface on like a CRPG, like it's it's robots and parchment and like flickering animated candles as part of your interface.
Starting point is 01:36:46 Like, it's in love, it's in love with its own setting. So of the different Warhammer games, I guess, something I'm curious about is like, do they all have a standard of lower inclusion and detail that is overseen and made sure to be in depth so that no matter which game you play, there's a lot. It seems like it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:37:07 There's, there's so, there's so many. Or are there some that stand out more than others as like this one has a fuck ton going on? Well, this one would be the one because this one has Alcatts dictionary system in which they're willing to throw a million fucking things at you. Like in a in like in the very first conversation, if you're not familiar with Warhammer 40K, you could be sitting there going like, what the fuck is the emperor? Well, luckily, there's some nice mouse over shit to be like, this is the emperor. This is what a cycle is.
Starting point is 01:37:45 This is what a Xeno means, et cetera. Because it's like, you know, I mean, I, with a setting like this, that this, I imagine that games workshop is like making sure that none of the games they license out for people to make are just like, you, there's no backstory really in this one. You just kind of, if you know you know and it's basic and.
Starting point is 01:38:06 I'm fairly certain that the level of care varies wildly per game. Like I know, I know Rogue Trader is got its fucking neck deep in it, but I don't think, and I think Dark Tide, I was also doing a good job, but the fucking ship builder RTS, I don't know how that's doing. And I guess it's how much readings versus how much show and tell, right? You're reading a lot, there's a lot to read. But yeah, it's a CRPG made by Alcat with Warhammer 40K license.
Starting point is 01:38:44 If that is appealing to you, go and check it out. If it's not, check it out anyway. It's the best game I've ever played. Given the thumbs up for the people at home. That's a, that's a, wow. Okay. And how would you rank Pathfinder? Pathfinder, Kingmaker, I beat all the way through. And I think it's a fantastic CRPG that has a very extreme learning curve.
Starting point is 01:39:14 And while it does have good controller support, and it does have console versions, the game's requirement to pre-buff is so extreme at normal difficulties and above that if you're not playing it with the buff bot mod that you just set up all your buffs and click it, that it is arduous. When you say pre-buff you mean like sit there and like just cast spells and prepare for each fight. All right, Willie, we're going into an encounter. What do you want? You want haste? Okay, cast haste.
Starting point is 01:39:48 Like a rain. You want protection from evil 20 feet. Okay, you want blessed? Got it. You want the alchemists fucking a daily transfusion. Throw it down there. And every single character has two or three or four or five. And you're
Starting point is 01:40:08 going to need all of those for the hard encounters. And that will take you 15 minutes. And then those buffs are going to run out and they'll heal yourself so run out. So you know what, you're going to do your going to rest. It's very similar to Baldur's Gate 1 and 2. So instead, you do one of two things when you're playing, sorry, one of three things when you're playing Pathfinder, Kingmaker, Pathfinder, Wrath of the Writers. You put the difficulty down so you just don't do that. You just don't do it at all and play the game normally and it'll kind of even out.
Starting point is 01:40:43 You play on the normal difficulty and you install the cheat mod which makes all buffs last for 1,000 days. Okay. Or you use the buff bubble bot which allows you to set up all the buffs on a single button. So you have your long-term buffs and like your short-term buffs and you click the long-term one after arrest and if you're having a really big fight coming
Starting point is 01:41:09 up, you click the short-term one and all your guys will cast all over each other. And of note is Rogue Trainer does not have pre-buffing at all. Okay. So you say you don't feel like you're wasting your time like you did. I, when I think of that, I think of like, I assume it's significantly longer and different from, let's say, getting ready to hunt in Monster Hunter, because I feel like you can spend a bunch of time
Starting point is 01:41:41 getting your shit together for something like that. You can, but I, at first I was confused, but then after learning a bit more about each step of it and stuff, I was like, okay, this is a little I get the idea of like preparing for the hunt, you know, and sharpening and what do I want and what type of trap. So it's like a part of the game. And then I've also, I also remember seeing what people do pre-rains before you, you know, in World of Warcraft.
Starting point is 01:42:09 Yeah, pre-fight buffing in Baldur's Gate one and two, never one tonight's Icewind Dale one and two, and both of the Pathfinder games is not fun. It is actually terrible. It is so, it is so terrible that pillars of attorney one and two, both Divinity Games and Baldur's Gate three were designed around not allowing it. Okay. Like in pillars, one and two, the people who many of them made Baldur's Gate one and two,
Starting point is 01:42:40 there were like no buffs that you can cast before a fight start. You can cast something to make you stronger in a fight in a pinch, but no, no, no, no fight buffs. That makes, well, it makes sense because the buffs just become the new default state of the character if you never enter a fight without them, right? Yeah. So like Baldur's Gate 3 will have like, so I'm running a Warlock Bard right now in my replay. I cast Gith, Wisdom, I cast Mage Armor, I cast Speak with Animals, and I cast Long Strider.
Starting point is 01:43:12 And that will last me until my next long rest, which is like can be like two, three hours. Right? Like in Baldur's Gate one and two, and some of the Pathfinder games, you're having like a tough encounter and resting, and then moving forward to the next room in the dungeon, and having a tough encounter, and then resting. So like every single one of these processes
Starting point is 01:43:39 is multiplied on top of themselves, it's awful. Mm. Yeah, I mean, and it felt like in Baldur's's Gate 3, you could spend a lot of time doing that, but a bunch of encounters, you just trip over them and you're like, oh fuck, we're fighting. Yeah, there are people that are trying to min-max it, and they're like, well, you know what I'm going to do in Baldur's Gate? I'm going to hire four hirelings, and I I'm gonna make them all abduration mages and then the abduration mage is gonna cast their guiding what the fuck's to call the fucking warding shield on one of each party members so that the damage
Starting point is 01:44:14 on every party member is split between them and the hireling back at camp and we're gonna do that on every long rest because it's optimal and most players are just like I'm just not gonna do that. I's, no, I know. I would rather game over and try to fight again than fucking do that every time I long rest. But if it ever becomes a commandatory thing, yeah. But the thing is, when I think of the Monster Hunter version of this, I don't find that time bothered me later.
Starting point is 01:44:43 I mean, I gotta have a- If Monster Hunter's different. It feels like it's a part of it, right? Monster Hunter has a holistic and internalized part of going out on a hunt because you're going out on a 30 minute hunt, 15 to 30 minute hunt. And so like, hey, everybody,
Starting point is 01:45:02 because there's kind of a co-op thing to it. Let's all go eat. What should we eat today? everybody, because there's a kind of a co-op thing, but let's all go eat. What should we eat today? Oh, we should have feline insurance because we're going to fight Diabolos and no one knows what we're doing. Yeah. So let's all have, you know, which ultimately, I guess, it brings the, like, what I'm thinking is like this process that is arduous in these examples here could be made fun if it felt more like it was part of this, not part of the setting, but more called for than just like doing chores before every encounter.
Starting point is 01:45:32 Well, it's a thing of like the older games and the way they codified the way that dungeons work and the way resting works. It's why in Pillars 1 and two, in order to rest inside a dungeon, you need to use a relatively limited resource. You can carry lots of food in pillars like you can at Baldur's Gate, but in order to use it inside a dungeon, you can only carry four on you into the dungeon. So for the whole dungeon, you can only rest four times. Okay, okay. Yeah, I mean, shit, we're just talking about Dark is Dungeon.
Starting point is 01:46:10 It's like, they're in that case, you can spend turns in battle to buff and do things, but in terms of outside of battle, just having, you just have permanent trinkets and things you give your characters that are just between these two fights, you have the ability to increase your defense if you want to,
Starting point is 01:46:27 knowing you're gonna need it for this, but like you're gonna sacrifice something else to put that on. And so in that case, it's just like changing out your equipment as frequently as you want to or if you don't want to, you know? Yeah, so like they realize this
Starting point is 01:46:43 when they did Pathfinder, Rath of the Ritesh, because every one of these RPGs, specifically CRPGs, has to have a way to make the character feel like special, usually so they can talk to people. And Rath of the Ritesh does two things. One, resting will accrue debuffs over time. So like the longer you rest in a region outside of your base, the stronger enemies are gonna get.
Starting point is 01:47:10 Cause you're being too passive. No, because everything is so fucked in the region that that game takes place, demonic influence is just constantly sapping your bullshit as long as you're not in like a consecrated place. Okay. And the second one is that one of the core upgrades you can get as part of your,
Starting point is 01:47:28 I don't know what it's called, the fucking mythic system, is to turn any buff that lasts for one hour in game time into a 24 hour buff. So it would like persist through rests. Yeah, I will, how does time work? Is it locked until you rest, till you long rest? And it's like, the time is on an accelerated basis.
Starting point is 01:47:53 Okay. So like, because I don't know what the specific math is, but like, you know when Baldur's Gate when something says it lasts for 10 turns, that's good, because it actually lasts for one minute in real time, because it's like it's six seconds. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right? So six seconds time. Yeah. Okay. And I guess there are there are moments where time stops. What are you talking to people? Yeah. Okay. But yeah,
Starting point is 01:48:18 no road trader seems fun. I really liked it. It's in love with Warhammer 40K and it's a genre that despite the fact that Warhammer 40K has like expanded its license to like everything CRPG is like a like a desired one, but it's also tough and Alcat was very much the right choice for that I Mean what else I get a hold of this week. Soay the princess, talk to that. Ooh, I played Killer Frequency. Ooh, have you heard about this at all? That, what was that? I think I did. Let me take, let me see.
Starting point is 01:48:53 That name rings out. We need to come up with a genre title for this. Because like, I wanna call it like a mundane drama. No, I don't know what this is. Okay, because in killer frequency, you are running a radio show, a late night radio show in a po-dunk, like tiny town of a thousand,
Starting point is 01:49:20 that nobody really listens to, right? And so as part of running that radio show, is you have a mixer and you have a turntable and you have the call button, you know, and so you'll be like, oh, we should play a track. So you rifle through the records, grab a record, throw it on the player, hit it, turn up the mixer up to the record, you know, you'll have ads that you play
Starting point is 01:49:42 via cassette tape and, you know, a fucking soundboard where plays like fart or laughing noises, right? So that's the game is the mundanity of handling or radio station. But the hook is that because you're in a tiny little po-dunk town, when a serial murder, serial murderer rather, comes back from the dead, ooh, he's a ghost, and takes out the entire police station and 911 operation. The 911 operator routes the 911 system through to your ranger. Okay, and so you are now taking 911 calls during a slasher film. I see, I see.
Starting point is 01:50:28 Oh, interesting. So the guts of it is handling the radio, but the secondary guts is people calling in going, the guys trying to break into my car, I'm scared. How do I, I left my keys outside? How do I hotwire my car to get out of here? And you'll be like, hold that thought. Well, I play this track.
Starting point is 01:50:50 Yeah, so I was gonna ask, do you have to hit the post so that like, yeah, someone is being killed and you're just like, I can give you as much advice as I need to, but as soon as the song's intro is over, I got a fade right out. So here, what happens is like, you'll be like, the storyline will dictate, hey, I'll have to get back to you. And then you grab a record and you put it down and then you get to choose whether it's been the time introducing the song.
Starting point is 01:51:13 So you introduce the song. And then you're like, listen, there's a guy who runs a car show on this radio station. Let's go rummage around in his desk and see if I can find any information about Hot wire or a car at which point you would take his car magazine bring it back get back into the point and click and basically Keep talking or nobody explore and or ever And you know you'll have that you'll have like There's a knife there's the killers behind you there might even be a second one. All right, so it's just a small town girl And you're doing stuff like you know, how do I get my car going or how do I escape from the hedge maze and you're trying to You're rifling through the garbage to see if anybody has any like pamphlets for the hedge maze
Starting point is 01:52:01 you're rifling through the garbage to see if anybody has any pamphlets for the hedge maze. And it's riveting and it's super cool. And it flip flops between you handling the radio station and exploring the empty late at night radio station, which is spooky as fuck, even though nothing's really happening because there's a serial killer on the loose It's pretty short. I think I got about halfway through it. It's great. It's great. It's super good nice nice It's it's really really really cool. I believe it is on sale right now
Starting point is 01:52:39 It is super cool. Yeah, I like it. I have the utmost respect for any radio jockeys, and like, hacky or not, if you can hit the post by just talking through and, you know, given whatever, whatever bullshit talk about the weather, talk about the traffic on the bridge, and as soon as you finish talking, like the song starts, the lyrics kick it right away, that is an insane skill.
Starting point is 01:53:04 It's hard. Oh, yeah. Somebody points out that like, you're trying to handle the 911 shit and like the agent of a musician who contracted you to play their song, calls the station to threaten you to sue if their song hasn't played by the end of the night. Oh, yeah, yeah. And so you're like, I gotta put this 911 shit on hold
Starting point is 01:53:26 and dig that record out if I can find it. Kesha bought 80 plays today. You better fucking play that. Better hit those plays. Oh yeah, it's great. It's fantastic. It's called Killer Frequency. It's got a good art style.
Starting point is 01:53:40 It runs well, it controls well. It looks good. It sounds good. It's a great. Cool premise. Pink. It's a great cool premise. Pink. It's fantastic. Yeah, I guess team 17 and there's really trying to not be the
Starting point is 01:53:53 worms company and they're becoming a publisher that I'm seeing them pop up in a quite a few places. Plassimus and this. Dreads. Good stuff. Dreads as well, they published. Yeah, and they were just, they were just the worms, folks, for the longest time. Ah, what else I play? So, hey, I played the smallest
Starting point is 01:54:19 amount of something, but just enough that I really, really want to talk to you about it, woolly. Grand Blue Fantasy Versus Rising is a fucking enigma. It's, it's so weird. Okay, one, hey, this is what I have been talking about forever in what you mentioned. Three big roster full blown rotation on per week. Grable. Grable's got a free rotating roster. I want you to what? There is no barrier to entry. Fuck it. Yep.
Starting point is 01:55:13 So all fucking download it. I'll see how the steam version is. I think K.I. is the only other game that did that. Not counting the, I think like Tekken Revolution or the weird micro games, but I think I think K.I. was like free with a rotation. Yeah, cool. Yeah, so I, well, I, hey, Hopin' Hey,
Starting point is 01:55:36 there's a guy named Sig Freed, it's got a big ass sword. Dead or alive, dead or alive, you're right, you're right. All right, here we go. Let's go into tutorial. First of all, good tutorial. All the features, like a huge proportion of the game's features are open for the free play. It's really crazy.
Starting point is 01:55:51 Mm-hmm. Like, they're like acts two and three of the story mode will be locked, and many colors will also be locked. But the rest of it, including full online play with the characters, here you go. Also, that tutorial is super needed because the game used to be very, very simple because everyone was essentially a modern mode character in the original game. And like that was people, and people were like, yeah, how do we make this more in depth? And so they went and added two types of ex moves and an extra bravery point system. And like there's so much mechanically going on,
Starting point is 01:56:27 it's quite complex, it's load heavy. So for a game system. That's my second thing that I wanted to talk about. It's so much. Because... Yeah. Granblue Fantasy Versus does something really great. I'm looking at the tutorial and I'm going through the thing and I'm like, there's a lot here. There's a lot here.
Starting point is 01:56:54 There's, there's special moves with motion or with button press like smash. There is special moves that are EX. There's special moves that are one bar supers, there are supers, and then there are desperation supers. And the desperation supers, in some cases, have follow up commands within them, right? However, every button, auto combos, and like, hey, what's the bread and butter like corner for Sigfried? It's Y, Y, Y, EX Fireball, Y, Y, Y, Launcher, EX, EX. Yeah, big overhead if you want to say. For like 70%.
Starting point is 01:57:44 Oh, that's an expensive ass combo, but sure. X, X, your big overhead if you want to say for like 70%. That's a, that's an expensive ass combo, but yeah, but my point is, it's like, and like, it's got a lot. It's got guard break and a guard break follow up system. And it's like, but when I loaded in on match one and was like, I don't know what I'm doing. The game allowed me to hit the XXX and the YYY and things happen like the floor is
Starting point is 01:58:11 For the skill floor of this game is underground. Yes, and that's where it was beforehand But this it is this is a weird game because it is the it is the game that has had that is the yeah the easiest like level of required, followed by the most systems and other shits that you can ignore, admittedly. You can't just ignore it, but if you do want to learn what's going on, fuck me, there's so much to keep track of. And there's like, there's so many systems, but when I'm looking into the system and I'm like, okay, well, how do I, how do I do the EX fireball in the corner so that they stagger?
Starting point is 01:58:49 Oh, are one in triangle? Never mind the character specific subsystems. Sure, but like, but like, like the actual mechanics are, like in terms of me physically touching the controller, are dirt simple, like wow, dirt simple. And so like, I was like watching people are sending me stupid matches, like, you know, it's certainly a stupid clip of like, hey, did you know that Saferead can get a like zero, like 100 to death, touch of death combo within like the early seconds of the match. And I'm like, okay, and then I watched it
Starting point is 01:59:33 and the important thing is, is that despite the fact that I'm brand new, I was able to see what happened. A lot of people who don't play, who play a lot of fighting games or have played a lot of fighting games, forget what it's like to look at it and go, I don't know what the fuck happened on the screen. Right. At all.
Starting point is 01:59:56 And I mean, Seek Fruit in particular, like if he's like buffed up with his level four damage, and you're seeing him do shit, that's not like real damage per se, but you can see the game plan is there are moments where you can choose to end your combo by buffing up and taking and installing.
Starting point is 02:00:18 Yeah, instead of going for a knockdown or whatever. It feels as if basically there are, there's a four, if you take Grad Blue the original game as the, like the base beginning of the journey, there's a fork in the road. And one leads to DNF, which is the path of Marvel, the path of Fist of the North Star,
Starting point is 02:00:39 the path of fucking insanity, Kosoge, just block this mix of fool, right? Like get motivated white boy. And then the other path is, we're just gonna drop more systems in place. And like the mental stack will be too high, hopefully. And I think that it's fascinating. It feels like that's what they went for. Because like, you know, overheads and sweeps is like a basic level thing,
Starting point is 02:01:09 but like sometimes it's hard for new players to, oh, it's part of the basic combo. Every basic combo, you can just say I wanted to end with an overhead or a fucking sweep. I mean, like the moment I saw in the tutorial that it's like, how do you get a brave point back? And it's like, by doing a super, it's like by landing a super it's like by landing a super no no no just doing it even if you with gives you back a bravery point
Starting point is 02:01:34 in that like whole like guard break system mechanic thing um, and when you don't have bravery points when you're empty you take more damage you die bravery points when you're empty, you take more damage. You die. They're like, ha ha ha ha. Yeah, so just trying to do that Street Fighter 6 style, like overwhelm you with the mental stack is the path they chose. And then after that, I saw a clip show up on my Twitter timeline that was caglioreostro versus Biel's above. And it plays out like the Goddamn Ghintama meme
Starting point is 02:02:09 of them flash stepping behind each other, infinitely looking for the opening. And I'm like, nothing personal kid. And I'm like, this is like the stupidest anime game of all, but the button's as easy and it's free. So I played like 25 matches and I had fun and I'm thinking about getting it later this week. Like I've never there's never been a fighting game with a lower barrier to entry until maybe project L. Yeah well yeah well so yeah
Starting point is 02:02:43 we'll see how they decide to launch. But yeah, making a rotating cat. I don't know who's free right now or like, is it one week per cat? Right now it is a grand and jita, sick freed and the blonde lady with the spear. Okay. Yeah, they say that they. If you have is and like multiple characters rotate or just one grand stays. Reuse stays. Yeah. Okay. The rest the rest rotate. Okay. Yeah. Smart. And it's got a big fat fucking roster. Like they have a lot of room to rotate on.
Starting point is 02:03:27 I look forward to Belial being rotated in so that everyone can discover the sluddiest opening and victory lines I've ever seen in fighting games. Can I? Which is Belial the guy who looks like Satan wearing sunglasses? The manhawr. The one who's rubbing his nipples as he walks into the fight. So I? Which is Blyall the guy who looks like Satan wearing sunglasses? The manhore. The one who's rubbing his nipples as he walks into the side. So I have a question. I have a question about this game that I don't know about
Starting point is 02:03:52 because I don't know how this fighting game worked. Because there's Blyall. And then there's Blyall with horns. Yeah, there's, there's Hornier Blyall. And Hornier Blyall, I was loading into ranked matches and they were placing me whatever. Here you go, here's a new player, his new player. But then I'd get to Avatar Boliol
Starting point is 02:04:11 and then that guy would be comboing me into dirt, like infinite, like near infinite. And then, and I'd be like, is this, is like it felt like am I playing a guilty gear gold character here? Or is this, you see Avatar Belial has the power to make the bass drop, you know? And that's what's important is, is once you have the bass cannon on your side, you can never be defeated. And then I was like, this feels, this feels like I'm fighting Street Fighter 2 Akuma,
Starting point is 02:04:43 because I'm just, I can't, I'm dying, help, help me. And then I got to the end of the round where he dropped his combo and saw that he was near death even though I had never touched him once. And then realized it was Street Fighter III, Okuma. Glass Cannon. He is made out of tissue paper. Yeah, I went to pick him because I just wanted to, I just like, again, the energy is hilarious and like, I was like, okay, I see what he's got.
Starting point is 02:05:12 But in the end, I was like, yeah, I just, I felt like I wasn't really feeling how to, how to open up people in neutral with him versus Seagweed where it's just like, press the big sword button. Oh, man, that's a good B button. And then they're open. And now what do you want to do? Anything? Okay.
Starting point is 02:05:30 Cool. Right. I would also like to point out. I don't know if you've played the game on steam. It is the most baffling steam release I've ever seen for a fighting game. It is the only fighting game that I've ever seen have these issues and they are not problems, but they are weird. So if you, it has non-regional pricing,
Starting point is 02:05:48 which does suck if you live in a region that would get hurt by non-regional pricing, that's actually a legitimate problem. I've seen people say that this get like, like gacha shit, like kind of this to blame for some of that. It might be. If you are playing it with a PlayStation controller, for some of that. It might be.
Starting point is 02:06:10 If you are playing it with a PlayStation controller, you get to see the strangest implementation of controller support I have ever seen. Step one, the game on Steam lists overtly, this game does not have controller support of any kind. Too. Big bowl players. When you go into controller support config, it says this game does not have controller support.
Starting point is 02:06:37 Then you what? No, stop. Then you load into the game and it asks you if you want to use Xbox buttons or keyboard buttons. And I go Xbox and it goes, okay. And then I play turn on my playstation controller and it loads in the official controller layout for PlayStation pads, for Grandblue Fantasy versus Rising. And here's my favorite part. When I'm moving through the menus,
Starting point is 02:07:14 all the top menus have PlayStation buttons on them, but all the notation at the bottom is Xbox buttons. They completely, so that's, they just fucked up the overlays That sounds ridiculous. Yeah, I don't if it's I don't know if it's a matter of libraries or anything like that But they just yeah clearly that because I mean I only played it on ps5 directly so I didn't see any of that but like man That's so funny if steam doesn't recognize it they just, they fucked up and launched it. It is swoley.
Starting point is 02:07:46 It is, I've never seen it like this. So if you, I mean, I'd be curious to see what would happen if you plugged in a stick and just like, you know, what type of late, what type of buttons you would see. But most of the time, the whole Steam overlay implementation thing is a catch all for when the game fucks up. But in this case, it's the other way around, not having it in. Like they're all just bloodshops.
Starting point is 02:08:09 Right, so it's so funny. And because it's PC, you're allowed to fuck around with that. There is no guideline against what buttons have to show up. Yeah, so as somebody, so I'm looking at the, uh, at the store page and it says partial controller support, but the partial controller support is for your Xbox controller. And it explicitly doesn't have controller support for the PlayStation controller, except it has full controller support for the PlayStation controller because it has PlayStation buttons.
Starting point is 02:08:47 But if you turn off steam input to use the PlayStation controller support, all controller support is broken. So when you use the PlayStation one, it has to pretend that it's an Xbox pad. So some parts of the interface detect the Xbox pad. But other parts of the interface correctly detect the PlayStation pad. Which is parts of the interface correctly detect the PlayStation pad, which is probably why your solution would be to go outside and get DS for Windows and then use that to emulate an input, which then just completely simulates a, a, an X input controller, tricking the game entirely. It's so, it's well, you don't need DS for Windows because that's what, uh, that's what
Starting point is 02:09:22 steam overlays. But if it does and it is doing it I played it with a controller no problem I was just getting into menus and would say hit X and I'd be like it the PlayStation X or X box X I still use it for games outside of steam and everything else regardless just to simplify the the process but Yeah, they fucked up royally on that It's so funny. But yeah, no, it's definitely, I wasn't very excited for it when it was announced, and a lot of that was based on me just enjoying DNF's full Kusage bullshit more.
Starting point is 02:10:03 And also, like, some of the beta stuff people, like when it was originally getting tested, the beta versions were not, people were, there wasn't, there was some weird shit going on. Like there was a, weird things were like, I think the tech window for Throws was like a fucking year and a couple of the stills that were. It's still very long.
Starting point is 02:10:22 There was an, there was essentially a drive impact mechanic that was added at the end of the last game that was then taken out of this one. There were really like, yeah, shooting for the fences were for a couple of, swimming for the fences with a couple of those things, but it seems like they lie there in a place where they're like, okay, our design is going to be all around just again being top heavy and having this mental stack, which after you're fucking around a little bit and playing some of it, I'm like, okay, yeah, this is cool. I personally still have a preference for D&F,
Starting point is 02:10:53 just because I like the bullshit. But beyond that, this is GBF, GBVSR. Well, it was fun. And I don't know if did you play grand brews by any chance? I did not play grand prues because the fall guys Fighting games is also available and you know they committed man You can fucking do a full-on fall guys bit And then that and that's also why you can run around that lobby and hang glide and travel far and wide and climb to the top of the sky and drop down and
Starting point is 02:11:32 shit because they're basically just doing the fall guys mode. I will say that I played maybe 10 or 20 matches and then I finished it and then I was like I didn't even think about the net code. I Didn't even think about it once I just played my matches Yeah, I had when we played it we had I think we had two or three Rough matches during the beta, but again, that was the final beta and it wasn't the release version. So if it's in a solid state now, fucking fantastic. And I also, like, under the radar, like for some reason, I don't know why they didn't update our makeup
Starting point is 02:12:19 bigger deal of it, but Samshow apparently got working final rollback as well, like two or three days ago. Is it working? Apparently it's good and working now. It was just like the official Sam Show Twitter didn't announce it. Like it was just one weird side thing that I barely, yeah, it was like completely unannounced and I don't know why they just did it so quietly,
Starting point is 02:12:38 but apparently they fixed it, so I have to go investigate and see because the last one was not great, but it's nice to not have to think about it right the sooner we can get to never saying the word rollback again there's there's there are only two left well and then the future right yeah no no one is gonna change their fighting game series over to rollback and then fucking go back. I mean I Sega's wild bro Who knows what we'll see who knows what we'll see I would not put anything past anybody
Starting point is 02:13:16 I would not put anything past herada. I would not put anything past Sega I would not put anything past a number of these developers. It's always fucking possible SNK was putting out games with functioning rollback like older titles while simultaneously having new ones that were fucking it up, you know, but yes, soon we will never even have to talk about this. It'll become a non-subject because it's just it's my default. I can't wait. That's pretty much it for me. Oh, wait.
Starting point is 02:13:52 Wait, there is one other thing. So now that I've spent way, way, way, way, way more time on it, I've been reading a lot, catching up, rather, on a lot of manga in terms of, with my, my co-bo. That is definitely the best e-reader for manga, because it's the biggest. But... Shame you didn't wait. Why is that?
Starting point is 02:14:16 Well, I don't know. I mean, we're going to get it to it in a minute, but is studio wait about to, you know, upend your one piece restart by basically going, we're animating it definitively and this is going to be the way. My kids going to be an adult by the time they finished that. They said, I don't know what it means, but they announced where they're starting, right? Is that point the beginning? Yes. Okay. The East Blue arc. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 02:14:49 So I've been reading that them there one piece and I specifically caught up to rogue town, which is past, like just past the end of the live action. And which is going to kind of coming up to the end of Romance Dawn and would be the ending of the anime that we are talking about right now, which would be the East blue arc that DeWitt is doing it. And people have been telling me forever's, which is don't watch anything, just fucking read it, just fucking read it. Stop, stop watching it, just read it. Reading it, that, did you know that one piece is like really good? Mm-hmm. Uh, no, but people like Luffy, I like Luffy, yada yada.
Starting point is 02:15:41 There are a couple things though, the of note, specifically with its anime adaptation. The anime adaptation is like widely decried as being the slowest filler filled shit ever up until what, episode 980? Or something like that, where, Toe, I wanted to put out a fucking episode of week for fucking 10 years and they were gonna do it no matter how they could possibly do it. So lots of filler
Starting point is 02:16:08 Terrible pacing, constant flashbacks to things that you already flash back to back in the fucking same episode Pre-bomper post bumper Re-catch constant, right And I was and I watched like 200, 250 of that and it's bad, it's so bad. I didn't realize how bad it was until actually reading the first 10 or so volumes because one piece, the manga, is fast for a manga.
Starting point is 02:16:42 It's not just, the anime isn't just badly paced. The manga is fast as fuck. So, like, what's so fast that I'm having to go back and reread pages, because I'm like, how did Luffy get to this, like, position? Interesting. Oh, I missed this tiny off panel. because I'm like, how did Luffy get to this position? Interesting. Oh, I missed this tiny off panel.
Starting point is 02:17:08 I guess when a studio announces they're redoing a thing entirely, that is pretty much an admission of like, we did not like what we had the last time around, right? Like this might as well be called one piece brotherhood. Yeah. I think that's what we call these things now. Right? Okay. So yeah. He's brotherhood. Yeah. I think that's what we call these things now, right?
Starting point is 02:17:25 Okay, so yeah. The one piece art style also looks a lot better when it's drawn good. Like, yeah, the characters are like cartoonish and sometimes very ugly, but like when they're not like really, really badly drawn under the strictest time consideration possible, they look a lot better like every single panel that has buggy on it looks great. Whereas in the TV show, there's some rough bits. But also, like in what I'm describing, like how fast it goes, it's going so fast that
Starting point is 02:18:17 the covers of individual chapters are being used to tell one panel side stories. So like, interesting. Hey, do you want a full chapter of what happened to buggy after Luffy beat him? Well, over the next 26 chapters, the front page of the fucking chapter is buggy side story number 10 11 12 13 14 which is a full chapter in and of itself of what happened. Or what happened to Kobe? Here's Kobe's entire arc. One panel at a time. Yes, that's what on the chapter cover. And it's just so fast. This media translation is pretty good with some minor issues. Such as my favorite character and yours, Wolley, the three the three sword swordsman, that's right. Roronora Zolo. Zolo of course. Zolo. Lola, Lola, Zolo Zolo
Starting point is 02:19:31 How old is the Is the mega translation 97 and then the anime started 97? Okay. No, sorry. The anime started 98. I think I Good old Roranor Zolo I mean context clues couldn't give away what they were trying to go for there like no what they were trying to go for is that four kids Didn't want to get sued by Sony because the mask of Zoro had come out. Oh my god. It's 1997 because the mask of Zoro had come out this evening. Oh my god, it's 1997. That was 97.98, so that was the one who just sued them. So they didn't do a solo.
Starting point is 02:20:10 So they didn't do a different place. Yeah, okay, fine. Fine, Antonio Banderas was still around and doing it. Yeah, okay. Yeah. And there's also some, every manga adaptation that you go through, you always have a fun little time of like, hey, what got cut out of every adaptation?
Starting point is 02:20:31 Right? And like my personal favorite is when the bounty hunter Zolo kills Helmippo's dog. Ha ha ha ha. And how that was never adapted into shit. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not.
Starting point is 02:20:48 I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not.
Starting point is 02:20:56 I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not.
Starting point is 02:21:04 I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. the Helmepo bullies. Okay. Like the reason why Zolo, that's right, Zolo is in jail. Of course. Is because Helmepo's dog was running around threatened to bite her and Zolo killed it. And they put him in jail. And there is a tiny panel of him doing like a samurai strike and the dog going bark and like blood shooting out of it. So Netflix opted to... like a samurai strike and the dog going bark and like blood shooting out of it.
Starting point is 02:21:30 So Netflix opted to, uh, yeah, to not. Okay, got it. Never forget, never forget that in Pokemon that Ekans got fucking cut in half, bro. Oh, I remember murderated. Nurse Jenny can't fucking resuscitate that. I really feel like the the the long term arc of Pokemon's like tone would have been forever changed. If the broadcast anime showed off what Pikachu really did to Brock's Onyx. So to those of you who don't know, when Pikachu hits Onyx with a thunderbolt
Starting point is 02:22:09 in the manga adaptation of Pokemon, he hits him so hard Onyx is pulverized into gravel and dies. And... Gotta catch him up. Like that's like your little thing of like, wow, this Pikachu is fucked. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 02:22:31 Your buddy animals want to come in an adventure with you to the top, to be the best, and their lives are on the line. Yeah. Good, good shit. Yeah, like, I'd love to see that with just like on Xfainted at the bottom. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:50 Apparently the R-Box was fine. OK. And there is one thing that it's like I'm looking at one piece at the one piece. And Nami shows up. And I'm like, oh, yeah, I like Nami. And I'm like, oh, she's not like a deformed hourglass person in these early volumes.
Starting point is 02:23:10 Like she looks like a human? Like you know, you know how later Nami turns into like a, I mean, like a freak? Well, everything I've seen of that character looks like a clamp proportioned character. What that reference is. Clamp is X1999. If you know Clamp Manga, it's the big alien head, codegas as well, like big head, super skinny body, really, like they look like the Mars aliens type of proportions really, really wild and somewhat unsettling.
Starting point is 02:23:48 And I'm just like looking at like, oh, that's weird. I wonder when that happened. Like I really, really wonder the specific choice to make the character go from like looking good to looking like a freak. Well, it was informed that it was out of getting married. Nice. It's interesting because there's other way the other way you can go with this is you're going to back to the manga and realizing that the manga looks way worse. Shout out to Tak on Titan, you know, like there's always the...
Starting point is 02:24:26 Oh, Takon Titans, it's different, man, dude. Like I remember, you know, there's only, hmm. That manga is ugly. The drawer of the Takon Titan manga is doing their best. I now, to be fair, I've only think, I think the only examples I've been showed have been some of the worst ones. So I probably have a very skewed vibe for what it's like,
Starting point is 02:25:00 but I've seen some really empty looking weird, weird panels. Like, Oda is like you, you go to chapter one, page one, panel one. Looks really good. Like it looks really good. It looks like somebody who has been doing manga for years and years and is like talented and has like a lot of experience. And then I'm like reading through the the the pre you know the little artists uh by a thing. And it's like this guy did two chapters of some
Starting point is 02:25:33 shit and then decided to start one piece when he was not even 20. And I'm like wow. of original fucking web comic ass one punch man is a ride That thing is great. It's so ghetto and it's just like It but it's like because of the tone of what the setting is like if there's absolute charm to how fucking Like squiggly and shit. It is I or yeah, I read I read a Fucking web comic ass one punch man before it started getting super shiny and fucking clean, you know, the original one. Yeah, man. It's, it depends on what the subject matter is, I suppose. But yeah, that one piece, it's all right.
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Starting point is 02:36:31 Thank you, DoorDash. I love you, DoorDash. All right. DoorDash was a person. I would kiss it and our beers would get caught. It'd make all kinds of wrestling noises. Yeah Well, there's one last thing I want to talk to you about my week Mm-hmm, and it's a fun little thing that I'm sure many people in this chat are familiar with
Starting point is 02:36:58 Have you ever heard of the term sleep regression? No, that sounds awful. It sure is, man. Is that some kind of Benjamin button disease? What is happening? No, it's what's known as developmentally appropriate. Sleep regression, It's at the four, six, eight, 12, 16, and 24 month marks.
Starting point is 02:37:34 You're adorable little baby who is going to bed so easy and so clean decides, hey, bitch, it's 11.30 pm. And I'm staring at you like this. So clean, decides, hey, bitch, it's 11.30 pm. And I'm staring at you like this. Where are we going? What are we doing next? Adventure. And you're like, what the fuck is this? And you're like, well, there's something like deeply,
Starting point is 02:38:03 like gut bustingly agonizing hilarious about like 11.45 p.m. For a baby that usually goes down at nine and you're rockin and you're you're bet you kind of benched the baby Like I you know I grabbed one and I rotate my elbows Little baby Got it got a bad, and then you look at the baby and you're like, is he asleep? Is he asleep?
Starting point is 02:38:32 And you look at him and he looks at you and his eyes are as wide as they'll go, and he laughs and he goes, ha ha, and it's the cutest thing and you're like, fuck! Fuck! Let's get this party started. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:38:49 And it's like, you learn like you look at him and the wife's like, don't look at him. Don't look at his eyes. But he's cute. You're powering him up. Oh my God. Eye contact is just absolutely. And reinforcement. But it is.
Starting point is 02:39:04 So, you know, baby, and like nap time, which used to be four hours between nine o'clock and nine o'clock is now occasionally six hours or 25 minutes. Who knows what it could be? But it does come with something really cool. It actually does, because sleep regression is the little baby man brain
Starting point is 02:39:34 configuring itself and going to sleep and waking up with a new skill. It is part of, it's part of attempting something, internalizing somatic experience, thinking about it, sleep, wake up, new skill. Okay. So great. However, the new skill, the new skill can be holding an object for as long as they want. Cool, that's cool.
Starting point is 02:40:13 Or it can be learning how to quack like a duck for a solid hour. So you're like, go to sleep, little baby, and baby looks at you, just go, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-b Scill tree is just a dartboard at random. Like crawling or walking? Fuck that! Quacking like a duck. Hell yeah. Ha ha. That's, you know what?
Starting point is 02:40:53 There's some good shit behind that path on the sphere grid. I want to see what comes. Look at it. Advanced. Cool. Okay. So it's a sign of... It is a... It is a cross-sensitory upgrade. Okay. So it's a sign of, it is a processatory.
Starting point is 02:41:07 Upgrade sign. Your baby must sleep orress, or else they're not gonna learn nothing. So it's, you discover this phrase when you're raising a child called developmentally appropriate, where you go, this new thing that the child does sucks,
Starting point is 02:41:28 and then somebody who's had a bunch of kids or is knowledgeable goes, the kid has to do that thing that sucks so that they can learn how to walk or eat or speak or do that shit you need to do. And so they're like, oh, it's good that the baby is doing this thing that sucks. It's fine. And you're like, ha, ha. I've, I've specced my infant into duck quacking.
Starting point is 02:41:58 Yeah. Now what? It's adorable, of course, because everything my child does is the cutest thing that I've ever seen in my entire life. Are we not talking about doing kickflips here? So it's fun. Yeah, first we... I was gonna say first we quack and then we talk. Yeah. Just you grab things and then you can throw them and eat them from the baby seat across the way.
Starting point is 02:42:34 I um... So... The discover... The child...oh man. The child learned that he could grip things. The first thing my son ever gripped with his hand was my completely full cup of coffee. Oh.
Starting point is 02:42:53 Oh. Ever. And I had my eyes on him the whole time and I saw him reach for it and grab it and I went no you don't We're gonna move this farther away and we're not gonna sit here in this same way I'm gonna hold because my coffee's on my left. I'm gonna put you your hands on my right side now and Then after the coffee came the rattle Okay Okay He came the rattle. Okay. Okay. Yeah. That's a good idea.
Starting point is 02:43:25 Hey, you teach a big idea. Hey, you know those videos of like parents not paying attention and the kid just does something? Yeah, you can't not look at them for even a second. This baby can't not look at them for even a second. This baby can't move, but I need to look at him at every second. Slender man rules. Because like, you'll turn around to pick up something and you'll hear, and you're like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 02:44:00 And you'll turn around and the baby's got like half of his arm in the back of his throat and he's gagging because he doesn't know what hands are and he's just punching his own fucking mouth going, eh, eh, eh, and you're like, what? Just, no! Basically, the fucking baby May Parker in Spider-Verse. Turn head on ceiling. Okay, great. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:44:26 Sick. Super cool. Don't put that in. And you're just, you're just like, oh, what an adorable little baby angel. If I, if I stop looking at you for even one second, you will burst into flames. And he can't even move yet. That's wild. Okay. Like, like, Wully? You never had, I don't think you've ever owned a cat, right? Okay, so you own a cat.
Starting point is 02:44:58 Oh my dog. Hey, you gotta, you gotta clip your cat's nails, right? I cat sat for my friend for a couple of weeks though, so. Yeah, but you probably didn't taste, you probably didn't clip their nails, right? No, sat for my friend for a couple of weeks though. So yeah, but you probably didn't taste, you probably didn't clip their nails, right? No, no. Okay, so you got a cat, you clip their nails because otherwise they'll scratch on things, right?
Starting point is 02:45:12 So how's that actually play out? The cat walks up to you and stretches on something and you hear that noise, that fucking noise that is the cat, the nails coming out. And you're like, oh, time to grab the cat, time to grab the clippers. We'll go into the bathroom and we'll go, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, clip all the nails so they're a little flat.
Starting point is 02:45:33 And then the cat bites you because they love you, but they don't know how to show it. And then the cat runs away and falls over and is disabled. And you're like done, right? Well, do you know how you know when to file down your baby's nails? Don't find out. File them down all the time.
Starting point is 02:45:58 All the time, okay. Because babies like to do this thing, where they're like, what's my hand doing? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH And you're like, why? Why did you do that? And the baby's like, it's looking at you like it's your fault. Because the flesh is weak. And from the moment it learned of the weakness of the flesh, it was disgusted. And so yeah, every couple of days, you get out like a tiny little nail file.
Starting point is 02:46:38 And you know, where you go? Here you go. Jesus, man. Okay. Okay. Yep. It's good stuff. It's good stuff. I love that little guy, but, man, babies don't know what they're doing, man.
Starting point is 02:47:02 They don't know shit. Well, they need a couple sleeper aggressions before they figure it out. Yeah, they will they need many many many many sleep on regression. You know, we're lucky though, because when our baby sleep progressing, we're like go to sleep and he's like, ha ha ha ha. Most of the time, many people's baby sleep regression is, go to sleep, like the loudest fucking thing you've ever heard
Starting point is 02:47:30 in your fucking life, nonstop, if they've got like collic or something like that. Well, I'll tell you who could use some sleep regression. Yeah. There are new skills. How about E3? Oh, man.
Starting point is 02:47:56 Luckily, there's very little news this week, right? Because the week before Christmas, right? It's fucking dead. Actually, factually. So if you watch the Game Awards, you knew E3 fucking dead. Actually, factually. If you watch the Game Awards, you knew E3 was dead. Shout out to Sejun, who I believe broke the story. It is for real, for real this time, for real Rip Bozo.
Starting point is 02:48:18 It was pretty much dead in spirit, but not in like... Reality. Yeah, not on paper. Not in the material plane. But you know, the moment Sony walked away was the beginning of the end. And everyone followed suit afterwards. And you know, I mean, look, it's like it did represent a time in the industry where there was a like a big moment for everything to happen.
Starting point is 02:48:45 And I'm sure for those who enjoyed their ability, if you were someone who was able to attend D3, make it in and skip the lines, you must have had a great time. But meanwhile, the rest of the planet, who either could not get in and those who could were locked into that process. Didn't really go and have to create somebody without a press badge is miserable.
Starting point is 02:49:11 But even outside of the attendee factor, there was the part where it was like everything and every studio always had everything was revolved around having an e3 presentation, having it ready for e3, all the development schedules, everything was just pushed into that, whether it needed it or not. And it's just objectively better when each studio and platform can be like, we'll make a thing when we have stuff to show at a time that makes sense and they can now do that digitally. There's no need for this anymore. Yes, there still are these award shows and there are still other things where they drop their trailers. time that makes sense and they can now do that digitally. There's no need for this anymore. Yes, there still are these award shows and there are still
Starting point is 02:49:47 other things where they drop their trailers. But ultimately, everyone realizing that they can just have their own event and not need to hold on. I mean, shit, Dragon's Dogma gets to just go like. Makes so much more stuff. Hey, you want the release date? Here it is. 10 minutes of footage.
Starting point is 02:50:00 Buy it in a couple months. Didn't wait for free for that. I remember, you know, I mean shit, when I was growing up, it wasn't just E3, it was also space world, right? Every year there would be a Nintendo space world announcement. And, you know, the whole, some conventions were all pressed only, you know, with zero consumer aspect to them.
Starting point is 02:50:27 I think Pax, you know, kind of came along and opened it up so that you could get more people that could get more hands on time with games and stuff. And, you know, that's cool. But, yeah, in terms of just the ability for every studio to like be in control of its own schedule. E3 going away, just pre-COVID, it was absolutely for the best in my opinion. And so like, yeah, now completely unnecessary, there it goes, poor one out. There's also like the biggest fucking period of the year is Q1 now. For game releases. You know, it's, there's a lot of iconic and classic moments and things from E3 that we grew up with, but I'm not, I'm not, I'm not sad to see it go.
Starting point is 02:51:17 I feel nothing about this story and that's, that's like an indictment of E3 in and of itself. I used to take off work and skip every class during E3. So I could just sit and watch the game trailers feed, update in real time, and just watch every single one that came in. And now I am, whenever E3 is dead, who gives a fuck? Shout out to that one time when they're like, okay, but what if we made it E4 all?
Starting point is 02:51:44 And now everybody can come. was a disaster that'll fix it Yeah, so There you go And you know with with with the with things like this not needing to be the one central focal point anymore You can get devolver going off and doing cracked out shit like they do. Yeah, like, hey, if E3's dead, where is Dave Lang's ghost gonna haunt? There's a lot of places that corpse can be re-beried for maximum haunting potential.
Starting point is 02:52:20 So rip, rip, to E3. For real this time, I think we said ripy three many times over the years, but I have said ripy three many times. Also rip rest in peace, rest in peace, a rest and piss maybe even Rip Bozo to anyone who received a lump of coal from Dota 2 because Valve has decided to implement a system by which they handed out gifts to people and having a holiday event called Frosticus or something like that and for those who were The most toxic and or those who were breaking the rules and doing all kinds of wild shit They handed out bands in the form of a lump of coal that you opened up in the gift box That's straight up saying here you go for frosticus you get a lump of coal. Hey, sorry, you get a highly toxic lump of coal. You're fucking banned.
Starting point is 02:53:28 You're like, well, how long can your ban be? 2038. Permanently. And it's hardware linked. So every single hardware ID in that computer is banned. So this happened on stream to a streamer named Mason, who apparently was banned for high levels of toxicity, as well as smurfing, and I believe behavior conditioning. Apparently this guy is known to be like wildly super toxic.
Starting point is 02:54:02 And would hire people to play on his account to Increase his good boy points and then exact it's a lot of yeah, so a lump of coal and and you know there was I mean That that's the type we've hinted at and talked about the different types of you know cheater jails and just What it all boiled down to the same event which is psychological warfare against those who deserve it. And this is absolutely a step in that direction. The question was asked, however, it's a really good one. What if you don't open the gift box? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:54:36 Right? What happens? If this the band stay locked inside the present. I bet you anything that at the end of the event, it automatically opens the gift box. No, the moment you queue into your next game, it opens the gift box. That's so good.
Starting point is 02:54:56 You get that present and you're probably gonna wanna open your presents, but let's say you decided not to, you're gonna open that present. You're gonna gonna wanna open your presence, but let's say you decided not to, you're gonna open that presence. You're gonna get that biblical. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, launch of taunts unlocked on your account. And the taunts all have names like you earned it. Hahaha. Hahaha. Oh, like really passive aggressive. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 02:55:35 Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah. Good stuff. Good stuff, you know. So this is following something that I was not aware of going on in Dota where the decision came down from on high that pro players were not allowed to have personal accounts. That smurfing is too much of a problem. And everybody's personal account was to be destroyed.
Starting point is 02:56:03 Because if you were a pro player and you had a pro account, you should be playing on the pro account. Okay. Did they agree to it? Yeah, but like pro accounts are marked in our especially. Well, no, it's just the one that they would play on. And a tournament that's not regularly. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 02:56:26 Yeah. No, man, there's just a level of petting-ness that is just absolutely delicious. And you'll love to see it. You'll love to see it. It's funny, because there's a thread on our sub-reddit right now about how somebody tried league and we're just like dumbfounded and ass blasted at the level of negative experience
Starting point is 02:56:54 they encountered in league. And there was this big thread about like just how much worse league is then everything. And one of the reasons is that like, Dota is the same genre, right? But Valfe like tries to do things, to tone it down. Like this bandwave, they're like 90,000 people. And like the rule that is like smurfing is done.
Starting point is 02:57:27 Smurfing is over. Like they're gonna take, they're gonna try really hard to deal with smurfing. League is the Wild West. And League is just like, ahhhh. Ahhhh. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:57:42 Yeah. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Right, yeah, somewhere around that's how defect, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, it's like worse and worse. Yeah, but, oh man, you know, it's the, it's almost like the mentality of like, yeah, why you have to be mad? It's only game can apply both ways, you know? Yeah, so Project L is gonna be The baron's chat of fighting games. I mean I just I don't know What to expect there, but I know exactly what to expect and, but if you make exactly what to expect, and it's
Starting point is 02:58:26 going to rule if you had that little bone in your body made out entirely out of solid evil. Now, not all people have that bone, but if you do, okay, going to feed that a little bit. Valorant is valorant made by a different studio. And it's like, and then it was picked up. Like, is it exactly like, that works in terms of studios and teams and stuff like that?
Starting point is 02:58:58 Because like, project L is made by a different dev that was picked up by right, right? Is Adam, because I'm like, if there's things we could look at Project L is made by a different dev that was picked up by right. Yeah. Right? Is Adam, because if there's things we can look at there that mirror here, you can see like, if this is the way it is in league, is it always going to copy over to the side? People are saying that it is Riot. Like proper Riot. Valorant House.
Starting point is 02:59:19 In a house, yeah. Okay. Because in the case of Project L, I mean, well, it's like they got the Verizon Thunder team name I forget now. But that turned into a riot death. I don't know, man. If you wanna talk about Valorant and League in toxicity, the Valorant culture is so strange.
Starting point is 02:59:44 Obviously, I don't play Valorant and I don't. The Valorant culture is so strange. Obviously, I don't play Valorant and I don't interact with Valorant and I can only describe what I see bubbling up from the surface. But it appears that like every single Valorant game is just like a bunch of would-be like streamers trying to goon all over each other with their sexy voices.
Starting point is 03:00:03 Uh-oh. Like, I don't know what the fuck is going on with that community, but it's fucking weird and cringe. Because ultimately, what I guess I'm just like, I'm wondering about is if League is just an absolute cesspool and when it comes to this shit. Um, if, uh, uh, the- Ha-ha-ha-ha!
Starting point is 03:00:24 I just saw somebody describe Valorant as Riz Hell. Uh uh uh uh the- HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA studio at night. Is Rady going to have any say in how like communication and chat and all that stuff is handled or you know what I mean, how behavior is monitored and what they allow and don't allow etc. Is it entirely managed by them, which is I guess called forage now apparently. I mean it's tough to say. I've watched a bunch of small YouTube documentaries that basically describe how like, if it's not on purpose, it's a shock because every single part of League is designed to make you go crazy.
Starting point is 03:01:16 Like every single aspect of its design and interface is like custom-tuned to create angry emotions. It's like a soccer game times a million. Mm-hmm. And we've talked about Project L, and we talked about how it's on your partner to burst you out of combos. Exactly, exactly.
Starting point is 03:01:37 And you're like, holy shit. But there are so many. But there are simple decisions that a game can make that sets the tone. For example, when Killer Instinct decided that open mics were the default option, that set the tone. They're telling you what experience they want you to have
Starting point is 03:01:57 by making you have mics on and the average match the moment you get it. Yeah, more combat I think is the same way where that's the default setting is microphone on. Right, so are you going to, are you trying to set that open mic tone in this fighting game where shit's gonna get fucking grimy? You know, that's the big decision.
Starting point is 03:02:19 That's the one that says a lot about what type of environment you want. I think the wildest thing about league and like in my limited experience, not being allowed to talk to the enemy team was viewed as a way to combat toxicity, but really, really what's much more important is not being able to talk to your own team.
Starting point is 03:02:45 Well, if you're somebody that has that fucking evil inside you and you need it to come out and you can't put it on the people that you're fighting against, it's coming out on the people who are on your team. The, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, is so much less intense than the internalized local anger. Man, there's, yeah, it's just getting redirected. There's no way that's not way infinitely worse. Interesting. Well, that's what they're doing.
Starting point is 03:03:23 And on that same note of fighting game stuff. There was an announcement, two in announcements coming next year, Bushi Road and Aiding are making a full-fledged, quote unquote, hunter, hunter fighting game. All right, so you're gonna grab Nuckel, right? You're gonna get into the match. You're gonna get your contract out. You're gonna be like, listen, I need to hit him with a Toyota Corolla
Starting point is 03:03:53 with 9% APR financing. All right, they're gonna be like, I don't know if I can handle a 9% loan onto a Toyota Corolla. And you're gonna be like, you can absolutely do it. In fact, hold on while I go over to the back, while I wait, and you look at this contract while that timer ticks up, okay? Now every time the timer goes up,
Starting point is 03:04:11 you're gonna get an extra stack of financing, okay? And you're gonna have to wanna run out that clock until 99 seconds until you finally come back and touch them, and they just instantly die. In the Toyota Corolla, you send, sell them as a lemon. Is this what men is? Yes, okay. Okay.
Starting point is 03:04:33 Now listen, now listen, you might decide that you want to go up to knuckle and file for bankruptcy and now that's gonna help you But it's not gonna get rid of this loan. You see it's like a student loan. Okay All right, it's not you you want to get out of the dealership. It's gonna keep running you can't escape from your debt all right is death. All right. Is, is that when the chimera ants get involved? Yes, yes it is. Okay. Sure. All right. All right. I say to you we're following without irony. They're like nearly 90 chapters about someone trying to trick somebody in a buying a Toroia, Toyota Corolla at an inflated interest rate.
Starting point is 03:05:33 Got it. In Hunter Hunter. Got it. Cool, we're here. We're here. So yeah, full fledged fighting game is a hopeful term. I'm happy to see it because the implication, of course, is when an anime gets announced for a fighter, you're like, roll the dice. There's a flip of coin as to whether or not it's just an arena fighter and or a mid one at that. It's the easy thing to do to just like, you know, whether it's gonna be like a my hero
Starting point is 03:06:04 or kill a kill or any other thing that follows into after the the ultimate ninja storm style thing, but you know, there's more, there's an easy solution there, but Aiding has a good trajectory of also being the folks behind bloody roar and DNF duel and a little fighting game known as Marvel vs Capcom 3. Holy. There is no developer that I would trust more to design a character whose super weapon gives them a new, sorry, their super move, level three, gives them a move set, which is uniquely bad for the matchup they are fighting.
Starting point is 03:06:50 Okay. Okay. Okay. I hit my level three. What move set am I gonna get? The only one I didn't want, fuck. Same developer that made Phoenix right. So, let's see what we get.
Starting point is 03:07:06 And also Tatsunoko versus Capcom. Yeah! Right on. Atings made some good ass fighting games. They've also, they're credited on being part of the team for Street Fighter 4 as well. So, they're like, I think they get over with the lot when people go, oh, wanna make a fighting game and hand a license over to Arxis. But they're not the I think they get over with the lot when people go, oh, wanna make a fighting game and hand the license over to Arxis.
Starting point is 03:07:27 But they're not the only ones, you know? So this is interesting. You wanna save up all your bars to get a level five dark Phoenix? Guess what, you're gonna win the match and then the game will reach out and give you AIDS. Me. Me. You.
Starting point is 03:07:48 It will reach a syringe out and give you AIDS. I suppose it's not gonna be just getting your opponent's badge number, huh? I imagine we're way past that point, a little bit in this fighting game. Okay. So all joking aside, there is, they have the potential
Starting point is 03:08:15 to do one of the funniest things they could do for a fighting game, in which they mandate certain characters have better matchups against certain characters. Does the opponent have a spider tattoo? This is now a 10-0 matchup for you. Oh, I see. If they're a member of that clan.
Starting point is 03:08:38 Yeah. Like it is a 10-0, you have no chance. Like it is a 10-0, you have no chance. They have balls. If the little black girl shows up and the evil lady with the gun is her matchup, then the gun versus the child is a 10-0 matchup as well, apparently, as far as I can tell. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, is constantly growing. Okay. I would like, it would be pretty cool if the playable character list was actually like,
Starting point is 03:09:34 like a hundred deep and like 80 of them are just instantly gonna die. Half-life bar, one move, actually. No, you could actually make like a pretty legit like regular star. 25 character roster and get like most of the ones. Cool. That people were like, yeah, no, that's the good list. Cool. There. Oh, man. Like there are two characters that should be on that roster whose entire game plan should run around timeouts. Okay, running the clock. Just like running the clock to the absolute maximum. Interesting.
Starting point is 03:10:23 I look forward to seeing what kind of ranged command grab the fishing pole will allow. Maybe it'll be a stance. Maybe the... Maybe that's. I don't even know what to say or not say. Okay, will you? I'm going to just I'm going to I'm going to quantify that in a way that's actually a fairly direct metaphor. You just said I wonder how freezes going to deal with the extending staff. Uh-huh. The go.
Starting point is 03:11:03 Yeah. The power of oh yeah. Yeah, the power bow. Yeah, it's a pretty big threat. That Nimbus cloud is real. It's real nifty. It's fast. I don't know if Sel knows how to handle the Nimbus cloud. Yeah, exactly, exactly, exactly.
Starting point is 03:11:21 I mean, also, I guess there, and with that comes the like, do you just make Goku regular Goku Super Saiyan, Goku Super Saiyan for, you know, et cetera? Do you just split it up in that way? Or do you find that way? No, no, no, there's that part of the character. It has like a really clearly defined place that they would be put in.
Starting point is 03:11:40 It's so much more immersively fun to have one version of every character that can do all the things you need. Yeah, I hate when rosters split it up like that. We've railed on Dragon Ball for doing it, but be creative, and if your character has multiple modes or ways that they fight, incorporate it into one pick, you know. Yeah, Aiding's legit. Aiding's legit. Let's see what this turns into. Yeah, oh, there's so much there. Because like, like, genuinely Hunter Hunter is like, it looks like kind of a basic shonen, but like a couple of volumes in,
Starting point is 03:12:28 it's way more like JoJo style nonsense in terms of like just this thing doesn't even directly attack. It just does a weird fucking thing. You know? Yeah. I mean, the nature of a lot of my questions is to like, some of these fights are fights and some of these fights
Starting point is 03:12:59 are not fights, but like, and there's anyway, there's a bunch of shit about what hunting is and what all that entails. Oh, I don't know. So, anyway, anyway, anyway. All this to say, that sounds pretty good. There's a good pedigree here. If Gone fights his dad, it's an auto win
Starting point is 03:13:23 because the character doesn't show up to the right. Well he doesn't know that's correct I do not know. Yeah no there's a lot in there. I do not know this is this is what we've established. All right so in terms of publicity stunts one of this is one of the fucking wireless things, but apparently to promote the man who To promote the man who erased his name Sega's doing a Yakuza IRL funeral for all the dead characters. Okay, I need to stop you right now. Okay. That, the Leica Dragon series, fucking lies about who is dead.
Starting point is 03:14:28 So we're not going to be discussing who is in this funeral and what you see if you go to this event for the record. However, there is a promotional event that is being held in Tokyo and a couple different locations where you can go and Place flowers on the gravestones of various deceased characters from the like a dragon franchise
Starting point is 03:14:59 Do you remember the bar tender in seven? I run in the bar called You had a big scar on his face. Glasses older guy. I don't know if I got that far. Oh, you did? I'm pretty sure you did bartender survive bar. Um, um, George the guy. No, no, the guy behind the bar voiced by David Hader.
Starting point is 03:15:29 Okay, then survive bar. I mean, I told that you did in fact get there, but it must not have. I must be, I must be forgetting, yeah, right? Right. That guy got shot like a hundred times from a helicopter mini gun and died. Like dead, dead, dead, died. Like it was Swiss cheese, which you are telling me because he's running the bar and he's completely fine.
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Starting point is 03:16:24 That's right! That's right! That's right! That's right! That's right! Man, uh, how'd a polygenic with it, you know? Don't even try to explain. It was like a big deal in its own game. And then you're just like, hey, hey, what's up? It's just, it's like, almost like a world where it's like Schrodinger's like deaf. It's like, it's only real if the main character grieves over you for a really long time.
Starting point is 03:16:44 And then, they did! They do! It's like, it's only real if the main character grieves over you for a really long time and you're like, dead! Thank you! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! They're matching like a game and two games later! Ha ha ha ha ha ha! What, will they, they showed off? Oh, they did, you know, like a dragon infinite wealth.
Starting point is 03:17:06 They showed off like, hey, you're gonna meet a cast of characters on your journey of infinite wealth. And one of them was the dead final boss from one of the games, also just running a bar. And it's like this guy got launched off of them the like off the millennium tower and hit the dirt And like like most of the time when fiction chooses to just like ignore deaths It's because the main character didn't grab their body and go no You know and have that acknowledgement That's that's great.
Starting point is 03:17:45 Fantastic. And then sometimes, sometimes the series will have the audacity to bring back a character and be like, it's me and the characters will be like, but you're dead and then they'll be like, just kidding. I was. I'm actually that person's twin brother that came up ever again. I got better
Starting point is 03:18:09 Yeah, so it is it is like it's it's it's It is a lie it is an ab so go lie go there in person and and celebrate lie, go there in person and celebrate the memory of from what I can say again I'm like I'm just I'm not looking but I can kind of eyeball there's a couple of gravestones and there's some portraits next to them you know they do the thing where you've got like then in Japan you've got the memory of the memory and portrait know, with a little, uh, wreaths and stuff. So you can just go have a fake funeral, not just because the characters aren't real. In like a dragon guy, also because they're not dead. There is a character who like is like, hey, by the way, we
Starting point is 03:19:00 already know each other. And you're like, what? And the only way you're going to figure it out is if you look up the voice actors acting credits and find out that they were a generic thug that fucking got killed off screen three games ago. Like... There's at least, okay, well, there's at least one person in this series that you talk to and go, didn't you get killed and they go, yeah.
Starting point is 03:19:33 Straight up. Yeah, no, absolutely. Okay. Yes. Didn't you get shot in the face and die? And I mean, yes, I did. What can I say? I admire its purity, you know?
Starting point is 03:19:46 Like it seems to have just been all about, like there's no qualms here. They're like we don't give a fuck, shut up. You're alive if you need to be. So like, so I think a lot of people who've been fans of this series for a while see the funeral, like aesthetic to this thing and just go what are you doing?
Starting point is 03:20:05 Committing committing to it. I don't believe that. Uh, good shit. Um, I just, I, uh, speaking of not believing its death, some people got hands on skull and bones. You know, they're something really hilarious about it being delayed for like 10 years only to release in the most fucked up quarter I've ever seen.
Starting point is 03:20:43 release in the most fucked up quarter I've ever seen. So, um, yeah, some, some impressions coming in, uh, kind of basically summing up that like on the good side of things, the level design is like really nice. And, um, the world is apparently very beautiful. There's lots of locations that are that seem pretty cool to explore. But then on the cons everything else in it is just inferior to Black Flag. It runs worse than Black Flag. It looks worse than Black Flag even on maxed settings. Maxed out settings completely. The actual ship combat is simplified over black flags, you can do less to the actual targeting and combat as well because the naval combat, you before kind of involved lining up properly, matching speeds, checking waves, et cetera, and here it's
Starting point is 03:21:43 more just like pick target, cannons will shoot in that direction There's nothing else to really oh Singapore is gonna fucking sue them There's no boarding the enemy ship at all You can only blow them up and then go to the wreckage and then just auto click on the stuff and basically it feels From what the person was describing as if a rush to the finish line to make what essentially is the depth of a mobile game to not get sued and in a test to not get sued. We have talked about this in the past, but for those of you who are but it's been in and for ever for those of you are unaware
Starting point is 03:22:20 black flag, sorry not black flag,ull and bones is a fraudulent scam that has been perpetrated on the Singaporean government via tax credits. They were paid $75 million to put a studio in Singapore to develop a game, and the game was determined to be Scull and bones, and then they decided to put the absolute bare minimum resources and use it as a vacation spot for their staff.
Starting point is 03:22:50 Over the course of a decade. Over a decade. Now over in just a simple world of, I, hey, I loved the pirating and boats and Black Flag and I would be really cool. It was great. You could make that its own thing. That's one of the only Assassin's Creed games
Starting point is 03:23:07 you can go back to and have not played any of them and play right now and be like, oh, I had a good time, that's a good one. All I want to do is just sail the boat and then do the part, do the things and ship naval battles and maybe even sing a shanty. And yeah, apparently just everything this game is doing is just less than the spin-off.
Starting point is 03:23:26 That's as the spin-off than the thing that was treating it as a side bit, the original bit. And yeah, it's, you know, the... That's a while. You create your character and customize your ship and so on, but like there's obviously going to be micro-inship to come later that's not accessible during the demo. So there's not much to say on that, but overall, it just, it seems like they really just kind of rushed
Starting point is 03:23:53 to the finish line due to the pending litigation. Oh, is that like rolling up? That's, no, well, that's that's speculation, speculation. This is all entirely un-unconfirmed. But I can't imagine Singapore is not going to like fucking immediately start getting their lawyers together. Where's the money? Like, we paid you the money so that you'd make money
Starting point is 03:24:21 and pay people and so where's, because like one of the biggest scandals out of the Singaporean office was that people from Singapore could never get promoted to anything. That would exclusively ship in French nationals to take every single man in position. Management position. Absolutely, yes, Singaporeans can't manage.
Starting point is 03:24:41 But life's crazy. Part of the reason you incentivize a company to establish in your fucking city, or state, Yes, Singaporeans can't man, but life's crazy part of the reason you you incentivize a company to Establishing your fucking city or or state is so that Living your country can get good jobs. What? Fuck off. That's crazy You talking wild bra We're trying to fucking vacay out here. We're trying to hit those beaches. What's you trying to do?
Starting point is 03:25:05 Man, yeah. So we're on the street, more like skin and bones. Ah, ha, ha, ha, woo! Ah, ah, ah. Yeah. I just wanted chanties. I just wanted to boat the chanties. You do?
Starting point is 03:25:23 It's so simple. OK, I have something very blunt to suggest. Scullin' Pones could have been a budget re-release of Black Flag in which you don't have the Assassin's Creed. Where do you just, just get rid of the footchant entirely? Like literally cut it in half and charge half of it I mean Yet you would have had me and then I bought game
Starting point is 03:25:57 HB boat 10 more of the boss fights against the boats couple more ships. Yeah, that's fine I'm down those boss fights were awesome against the boats. A couple more ships to, yep. That's fine. I'm down. Those boss fights were awesome against the fucking ghost ships. We've cut out the rest of the game. We've just put in the boat sections and we've dropped 50 more shanties. Sign me the fuck up.
Starting point is 03:26:20 Yeah. I'm in, bro. I'm so big. You know, if I, you know, if I was a cynical man, I would wonder if Ubisoft kept a foreign studio open that was never planning to make any games whatsoever, purely as a way to dodge extradition for their cavalcade of managerial sex crimes.
Starting point is 03:26:41 Oh, Jesus Christ, I mean, now we're, if I was a cynic. Now we're... If I was a cynic. Now we're thinking with portals. I'm not there. I'm not there. I'm not that type of fucking legal ninja.
Starting point is 03:26:55 I don't know. That seems a bit nuts. But we'll see what happens when the game drops and then they subsequently release a statement going, hey shit happens. Oh wait, no, that was actually the day after. Mmm. Not much update there. They just came out and said, hey guys shit happens. Um. Yeah. good stuff. Well, that's pretty depressing. Do you want some good news? Sure. Are you really excited for Avengers 5.
Starting point is 03:27:50 No. What? This happened. Oh, this is going on live breaking news. Oh, this happened like an hour ago. Oh, this is happening right now. I see. Avengers 5. Well, you see, Jonathan Majors died on the way back
Starting point is 03:28:08 to his home planet because he got convicted of beating up his ex girlfriend or girlfriend at the time. And within minutes of that conviction, Marvel fired him and started changing the names of all their upcoming projects. I see, because... Move, move, Kang. The Kang Dynasty was the original working title.
Starting point is 03:28:31 I had, I did, okay, well, I mean, okay. They must have already, obviously this was a button that was pressed. Yeah, but in preparation. It's been by Hollywood standards. The cynicism of, is he gonna beat it? No. Yeah. Get out of here. But I think I think,
Starting point is 03:28:50 I forget where it was, but I wanna say that like a couple of years back there was an article about that somewhere where it was kind of like a Marvel sort of cancellation clause or something to that effect. And like having this many actors on worked into the projects or whatever, there was some sort of cancellation clause or something to that effect. And like having this many actors on worked into the projects or whatever, there was some sort of set in thing where there was a, yeah, a button they would hit that would effectively be the Ezra Miller button.
Starting point is 03:29:13 No, no, no, no, you can't, no, you have never been more invertedly incorrect. The Ezra Miller button is the button where Ezra Miller button is the button where Ezra Miller kidnaps a bunch of kids and is on the run from the cops for multiple months and you hit the button to put his movie out. That's my, no, but I'm saying, that's exactly my point.
Starting point is 03:29:36 My point is nothing happened with Ezra Miller and they did it anyway. That is the craziest thing! That, because that's the DCU version of it. They're just like, nah, run it. Run it, run defense. I don't. Dude, all that shit about Warner Brothers cancelling movies
Starting point is 03:29:51 is like it was very brave. It's like, oh, I'm sorry. You had to spend $300 million to put out the shittiest movie anyone's ever seen featuring an active child, Kid Napper, Esra Miller? Even if the movie was good. Like... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's...
Starting point is 03:30:16 Man. I mean, the fucking, the Reinhart Shield required for that team to just walk forward, hold the line, taking fire on both sides in product and in reality. Okay, interesting. Interesting. Avengers 5 it is. It's funny because they waited till the conviction to fire him, but like all the recent story shit has been like intentionally minimizing Kang's possible future roles Like they were building that they spent like the second Loki season just building themselves and out Further outcome of that trial
Starting point is 03:31:04 Okay, well, just like that, I'm sure a bunch of clever meme artists have now aborted their pre-planned Kang jokes that they were going to be making for the next couple a board on that. What else you got? In movie news, how about the fact that fuck all like dancing around it, death-trending live-action? Who's gonna play Norman Reedus? Okay, so I think when it comes to this, can he? Not is there a version of events where it like, it's not just him, it has to be, right?
Starting point is 03:31:51 Not just the full cast of Death Stranding. Key for Sutherland. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh Oh God damn it Oh man, you can't keep getting away with this Fuck oh dude, it's like and here's the other problem. Okay. It's extremely reasonable to assume that this is just a vehicle for free work at a 24 produce for just, you know, Norman to just be like, hey, there you go. Shoot like done. We can't do this without, right? Hey, Norman you remember what we did before just do it again. can't do this without right. Hey Norman, you remember what we did before?
Starting point is 03:32:43 Just do it again. And therefore, mad as well, right? Yeah, you have it. Right. But how far down that list? Do we go? Can everybody? But like, in Hollywood fucking bullshit ass rules,
Starting point is 03:33:03 they're not gonna get everybody. There's gonna be a line where they're like, you are going to be, and you're gonna make the cut, and you are just a voice actor, sorry. You know, and I'm like, how far down that list of death-stranding original actors, do you go before they just start going and this is a movie version, sorry.
Starting point is 03:33:23 I don't know, I think you can get everybody. I don't say, do they just start going and this is a movie version. Sorry. I don't know. I think you can get everybody. I don't see any, do they just go for everyone? Any characters in that story? I hope. Like 10. I'm the whole story. I hope they do.
Starting point is 03:33:37 But movies never do this, right? They always switch it up. They're all, like there's never any adaptation where they just grab every, I mean, I guess Scott Pilgrim is like the only one I can think of. There's never been a movie based off of the works of the genius Codumbo. I certainly hope everyone can do that.
Starting point is 03:34:00 No, but there is genuinely, there is genuinely a precedent to be made here because game movies historically, I can't think of any other than this are adapting something that already had the entire cast be Hollywood actors. And as themselves as the character. Do you know what I'm saying? Like full performance capture. Right. Though we're some of the cast, primarily voice actors.
Starting point is 03:34:36 Dead man was Guillemorel's body and a voice actor. And then there was Troy. But Troy was playing Troy Baker playing Higgins. Because that's the thing I guess is like if it's yeah like Troy Baker. Yeah, okay. Well It would be an awesome first, you know, but I just I feel as if we just have never seen this happen anywhere So they there's just that like now we're gonna recast but there's a line a cut off point This is gonna be the shittiest movie ever. I'm so excited Kojima's first and it's gonna be like four and a half hours long Wasn't there what was the announcement about Kojima movies?
Starting point is 03:35:19 I don't know. He wants to make them. Yeah, he doesn't there was there was that it's And then there was the, I think it was a, Kojima productions is like looking into or expanding into that realm. And then I want to say there was another thing they might have announced a while ago. But... Ugh. And it's announced as an A24 film as well, right? So like, you're gonna get your budget. You're gonna get your soft focus camera,
Starting point is 03:35:47 you're gonna get a whole lot of piano. Ludwig is gonna fucking kill it. But yeah, I guess that it's just the question of like, oh my God, do you just one to one? And then, you know, like. I just had like a pit in my stomach listening to you describe that in which it's like Kojima's like the, well why do you want to make movies Kojima? Is it to make a cool movie? Or is it to make new friends in Hollywood? Because if it's the second one, full replacement of the whole cast,
Starting point is 03:36:27 just to do it, just to do it. You don't make friends with the same salad you already made, bro. All right, you get fucking Timothy Shalame to come cruise through the office and shake that head of hair. Timothy, you're gonna be playing Fresiel. I mean, if you want to make friends with Hollywood, you have to cycle everything, all of it,
Starting point is 03:36:58 right? You just get a whole new group in there and this is the new generation and they'll link you up with even more people. And then what? Why did my brain just, ah, ah, does it, you ever have like an intrusive thought that's just a nightmare?
Starting point is 03:37:16 Like I just had this whole thing of like this new fake cast list and at the end, it's like in starring Martin Lawrence as BB. And it's just Martin starring Martin Lawrence is BB And it's just Martin Lawrence is fucking head in the jar With the mustache and everything completely Dude like He wants to be on that Oscar stage
Starting point is 03:37:40 He wants to have that moment and he has I I'm sure he has the written out fucking, he's gutting for it. He has to get in there, you know, and he's gonna have to like get in amongst, like he has to take it another tear up, not just be friends with like the, you know, like the the walking dead and the gyrmos of the world. He's trying to get in there with those denzells. He's trying to get in there to that, that, that fucking, fucking To that elite the inner inner inner true true. He wants to sit down with Scorsese who wants nothing to do with him There is a like timeline of events here In which video game players that have been playing games for a long time have a bizarre in In which their film friends watch death stranding
Starting point is 03:38:25 and go, what the fuck was that? And people who do nothing but play video games like you just don't understand the complex themes on display here and the director is just too effent guard for you. You see, monster is like piss for ghosts. Oh. Where does this ride stop? Where does it go? I got to.
Starting point is 03:39:00 I got to. That's it. If like I just can't believe worth this place we're like pretentious yep pie in the sky video game man Might actually get the weirdest and most pretentious video game he ever made made into a movie If we're sitting here in 10 years and Hideo Kojima becomes the recipient of an Emmy of the Grammy, an Oscar as the 20th Time Achievement Award, if we have images, if we get an official picture of loodens on an MTV awards surfboard,
Starting point is 03:39:51 fuck everything, fuck this timeline and this reality and it's entire. Oh. All right. Oh. It's coming, It's coming. It's coming. He's gonna make the jump.
Starting point is 03:40:09 There's so much goddamn news this week. You have the Blizzard stuff? I don't. Hey ladies! If you worked at Blizzard between October 12, 2015, and December 31, 2020, enjoy your well-deserved lawsuit winnings of approximately $55 million. Because Blizzard just lost that in that they settled.
Starting point is 03:40:31 They didn't want to go to court. They settled. In California. Okay, so this is also today. Yes. Okay. Well, everything happened one hour before the podcast. While we were talking. Okay, got it. Yep, 54 million. An additional 47 million to female employees who worked at the company from 2015 to 2020. Okay, so that has that has been settled. Yeah, I want to say we reported on the initial filing. Yeah. Okay, Blizzard decided that they didn't want to deal with that in court where everyone could see all the stuff that the lady said had happened
Starting point is 03:41:14 where the act where it all comes to light in that I forget I forget If this was public and not but I remember talking to somebody who was describing that Uh, it's getting really hard to hire people in business. It's getting really difficult to shore up empty spots on the roster. Well, with all this terrible publicity that keeps happening. I mean, certainly didn't fucking stop Ubi, you know. But it does, if part of the hair act, because I'm like, I just pulled up the article now so I didn't see this, but is there like a part of this
Starting point is 03:41:56 where it involves them then kind of like ceiling everything from it? Cause oftentimes there will be a settlement that involves ceiling all files related to the case and so on. So it never kind of, it never sees the light of day and you never get to figure out or hear about what actually happened.
Starting point is 03:42:17 Does I don't see any gag order shit on this? But I mean, I don't know. I'm probably not looking at the full settlement paper. It's mentioning the unionization efforts as well. Okay, okay, I can't really just skim through completely. But what did I have? I had a couple of random announcements. There was, yeah, so the Death Trending movie. Just a cool, also cool looking project that popped up on Twitter. It's the one that you've been tweeting at me where you can parry a nuke. You parry the fucking floor. Now you can parry the floor.
Starting point is 03:43:06 This is called VA Proxy, there's a demo out. And yeah, just if you are, if you like parrying as much as I do, seems to be an action game with a demo where parrying is the law of everything. You can fall from fall damage height and then just parry the ground, and turn it into momentum.
Starting point is 03:43:25 And then the ground was trying to hurt you, man. It was. And the tweet that caught that that was sent that caught my attention was, fuck it. You can parry nukes now. And it's just literally a new kick going off in the horizon. And the shockwave comes towards the character who then parries the shockwave and then cuts it open like a like Moses splitting the fucking sea so VA proxy just fucking yeah if you're if you're a parry head go check it. That's cool
Starting point is 03:43:55 There's also a new platform fighter that got announced called combo devils Which looks it's interesting because it's from punkzilla. And it looks like it's pretty solid. It's got like a very clear intent with their trailer to show you that movement is sophisticated and advanced. So like a bunch of the initial look is just showing you like here's a wave dash, here's a quick like, here's just lots of aerial movement and like the ability to
Starting point is 03:44:29 get in and out as much as you want to. And it's billing itself as like a platform fighter cross traditional fighter style games. So comboler Devils looking interesting. Um, over on Steam, and then, uh, what was the other one I had? No, I think that was pretty much it. Well, the only news that I'd like to add is unfortunate. Over the weekend, James McCaffrey, the actor behind Max Payne, Alex Casey, and Zachary Tranch passed away from cancer.
Starting point is 03:45:19 Oh, man, that sucks. Damn. Like at the only plus slide that I can think of is that I feel glad that he was able to see his last piece of work win a lot of recognition, particularly for his acting, which was stellar. What's he sick while recording? Probably. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 03:45:43 Damn. Yeah, because like, I mean, yeah, this is the moment where it's being recognized to the fullest right now, right? Probably one of the, like, top five voice actors of all time. Like just every single read was a plus. The voice of Max, Alex, and what'd you say? Zachariah Trinch and Thomas Zane. Okay.
Starting point is 03:46:15 That's a bummer. Did that happen? That happened just, I'm gonna say yesterday. Okay. Okay, I got you. All right. All right, let's I got you. All right I'll say some letters. Oh
Starting point is 03:46:38 Confirmation from avalone that obsidian tried to make multiple fallout and elder scroll spinoffs and but there's to shot them down bummer What's the what's the quote on that? The quote is I don't have the quote I have the the by line but the by line is that the city in kept trying to be like you want some you want a new Vegas to you want a new Vegas too? You want a you want a Elder Scrolls thing and Bethesda was just not interested. Bummer. I know I'm a fucking weirdo on this one, but I just want to hear more about into the breach. He wrote it. That game has writing. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 03:47:27 Yeah, no. Like he apparently wrote a full thing about the whole backstory with the vac and the time events and the dea like there's a whole, there's a whole plot bit. He wrote it, yeah. I was like, oh, start. I love it, I'm down.
Starting point is 03:47:45 You show me more. Hey, if you want to send in some mail, send it to Castle Super Beast Mail at gmail.com. That's Castle Super Beast Mail at gmail.com. All right. Here's one coming in from not some decoy to WNP. Q, what game do you think you can go back to and beat the fastest or in an afternoon, not 100%. For me, this is an easy answer because there's three games that I can think of that I used to do runs in and try to clear. So Strider, the original
Starting point is 03:48:21 arcade game, most people listening to this could beat strider in an afternoon. Yes. Of course. It's an arcade game. Fucking 40 minutes. So I so I'm to answer the question. I would try to do strider in like 13 minutes or so. Like I try to do the, you know, the speedrun stride on that. Some, I mean, it's been years at this point, so a long time ago, but I remember like that was a lot of fun. Mirror's Edge, right? Was a lot of fun to try and fucking do the bullshit and run the bugs in and try to speedrun through. And yeah, it's a super Metroid.
Starting point is 03:48:59 I mean, I think everybody kind of, you know, I attempted a couple of those at some point too as well. I'm trying to think, I just saw somebody say something in chat and they're right. Number one for me is Resident Evil 2. Obviously, number two is Resident Evil 2 we make. And number three is definitely outerwilds. Okay.
Starting point is 03:49:26 I mean, outer wilds, I, like speedrunning. I can totally beat outer wilds in 20 minutes. Yeah. Okay. Go to the ending. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I could. All right, perfect. Here's one coming in from Maria. Dear die hard man and hot cold man.
Starting point is 03:49:51 Most normal players would assume that... Oh, okay, old hilarious Kojima quotes about solid. Got it. Most normal players would assume that the solid in Metal Gear Solid stands for Solid Snake, right? Nope. Wrong doesn't. While partially true, here are some quotes that demonstrate the real meaning of solid. Oh, it's so stupid. These are so dumb. The official mission handbook says,
Starting point is 03:50:17 The time Metal Gear is displayed in full polygonal form. And I used Solid to describe the cubic structure. Also, the solid means to the third power mathematically. Furthermore, it's because it's in 3D. And further more, that's like, uh, you know, the company that does Final Fantasy, a square is a twodimensional thing. And I guess the president of Konami wanted this game to surpass square. They wanted to make a cube, you know, like solid 3D. So it's got that meaning too. Bro, that quote doesn't even make any sense. Metal Gear Solid came out in 98 to serve a cabinet square like the fucking spring of 96 and to pay a cube
Starting point is 03:51:07 can surpass a square and that has to be solid. Never mind that his name is solid snake. Do no matter how far you go back the guys just saying nonsense just stupid shit nonsense. It's great. Or is it the truest shit?
Starting point is 03:51:27 Is it so sane that you just blew your mind? So it is stupid nonsense, but it's also the truest shit because I don't believe for a second, Kojima has not believed every single word he has ever said to anyone. That's exactly it. It's only bullshit if he doesn't believe it. What he say means it. That's the difference between a Kojima and a David Cage. You know, as it's
Starting point is 03:51:53 coming out of Kojima's mouth, he is believing it into reality. He is fully invested in every word. Here's one coming in from Volta who says, uh, hello, Gens, my Spotify wrapped came in this year and informed me that I'm in the top 14% of listeners, uh, to which my wife said, that makes sense. You listen to them a lot to which I responded. I really don't. I just listen to each episode all the way through when it comes out. How does it feel to know that 86% of your listener base are cowards who can't commit?
Starting point is 03:52:27 I mean, we put out like it. Four and a half hour podcast, 52 weeks of the year. It's like, that's a lot. It's obscene. And if video game achievement metrics are anything to go by, that's, we're lucky to get that 14.
Starting point is 03:52:44 Also, you know, people watch it live. People download it and the download is be caught into the Spotify metrics. There's that. Admittedly, yes, there is a divide there. But yeah, I think the fucking, what is it like like 99% of game completion trophies are like never unlocked or for most of the people that boot up the first or whatever It's like people don't beat games people don't get it that far. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, people don't finish things and ours in arc in this case is again
Starting point is 03:53:15 obscenely stupidly long So how do you compare against the rest of the steam community pat? You unlocked 864 achievements the median on steam is 16. There you go. You played 128 games. The median on steam is five. Oh. Point of pride, no, no. That's cool. Top 14% on only fans, yeah. That's, you guys are special.
Starting point is 03:54:03 That's you guys are special. All right, and then here's one from Zeef, who says, dear CSB. I finished Baldur's Gate 3 on tactician difficulty a few months ago, so I thought Pathfinder, wrath of the righteous, would be too bad. And now you've notion, it's definitely a good gauge, but I personally feel that balance is the balance is horrendous. Playing on normal difficulty, enemies have jack stacks, specialized builds, and buffs stacking are necessary.
Starting point is 03:54:36 And DC spells are near impossible to land. What are some games that you personally feel have terrible balance? This is interesting. I need to really dive into this, but after you. No, I was gonna say this is interesting because like, yeah, I would be curious to hear about games like this where it's really complex and it all works really well as long as you're not
Starting point is 03:54:55 on one of the like advanced difficulties, which was just horseshit or not well thought out, you know. The way that I have interpreted is that Larian is the DM and they're your friend and they want you to have a good time. And Alcat as the DM is your antagonist. Okay. Like one DM is like, let's all have a good time.
Starting point is 03:55:20 And the other DM is like, it's my job to kill the players. So there's two things. There's the DM is cheating in your favor or the DM is being strict, but there's also the challenges you're being presented with are just way above your level and are unfair. Oh, dude, encounter design in an Alcat game is vicious. in an Alcat game is vicious. Vicious. Like ever, so the difficulty,
Starting point is 03:55:49 the normal difficulty in an Alcat game is significantly tuned in the form of the, towards the player, right? And enemies don't crit as often. You do more damage, you have more health. It's very, like the second hardest difficulty is all numbers at their normal places, right? But the fucking encounters, these motherfuckers will build
Starting point is 03:56:17 for you to just stumble your ass into are all intended to kill you. Like they are meant to fuck with you. They're mean. So this reminds me, the thing I can think of the most is Kingdom Death Monster, where the DM can be friendly, but the game's tone, design, and the nature of being able to lose a member of the village and then pick up another one is such that disposable, somewhat disposable
Starting point is 03:56:53 party members is intended in its design. Time is meant to move forward, therefore the game doesn't stop when you wipe necessarily. But if you have a party that has survived multiple hunts and has gotten stronger and has really cool gear and a bunch of great experience that they've made off of the last couple fights, it makes the game so much easier and losing that fucking sucks, you know. Starting from scratch just brutal when you've got like nothing to go for you, to art to show for your character. So, but like the games again, the tone and the nature of its systems encourage even your friendly DM to be kind of neat about it, you know? So, I don't mind in that instance, I think. I would like to read a short Reddit post that sums up in a very succinct way what I'm
Starting point is 03:57:45 describing. This is from a couple of years ago. This is by a gentleman named Ender Andrew. New player struggling early on in the Spider Cave in Pathfinder Kingmaker. So I survived the assassins in the first quest I received to go to a Spider Cave. In said cave, there are spider hordes what he needs as swarms. You can't attack them with normal weapons. I created a paladin as my character, Lindsay has one attack spell.
Starting point is 03:58:11 I have the alchemist fire, which is a grenade, that the quest giver gave me, and there's no other way to harm these swarms that I'm aware of. Lindsay's spell just isn't working. If I queue up one of my characters to throw the alchemist fire at a distance, the swarm moves and the character inevitably throws it where the swarm was two seconds ago and misses. If you throw a point blank range, there's a minus 4 modifier, so it often still misses. Both the giant spiders and the swarms bite you and give you poison with attribute damage that's labeled permanent.
Starting point is 03:58:43 I have 7 alchemist fires at this point. I'm level two. Often I throw three of them at one swarm or horde, and three is not enough to kill them, but there are four or five swarms in the cave. I tried it repeatedly for almost two hours last night, gave up and installed a cheat mob that made every roll of 20. Then I killed the swarms of the Nat 20 with a single alchemist fire. It was the only way I could clear the cave. Why is the game
Starting point is 03:59:08 throwing a basically impossible scenario at you as early as level 2? What are they expecting you to do? So they nerfed that encounter three times, and the only way they were able to completely work around it is by completely redesigning the entire cave so you could complete the quest without actually encountering the spiders. Like, these, what you just described, it's a moment I have, I have from time to time, like sometimes it's during an LPR, so where I'll just be like, what is the developer intended user path here? Show me a video of what you, the person who made this, would want this to look like, because I can't see it.
Starting point is 03:59:54 There's two things. Is it you fucking there? Built the wrong character? Sorry. There are two things going on in Pathfinder, Kingmaker and Pathfinder,ath of the Righteous that is very important. Okay?
Starting point is 04:00:08 One is the intended path is to see that, get fucked and leave. And the fact that they gave you a quest immediately to go do it is a trap. The reason why it's a trap is because of reason two. Pathfinder Kingmaker and Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous are one to one recreations of existing adventure modules. They are translating it, according to the text into video game format. And whereas the DM in your real Pathfinder game might encourage you to run the fuck away. It can't be.
Starting point is 04:00:48 Nudge you. Yeah. Your quest log doesn't. Yeah. Oh my god. Okay. That makes so much more sense. And a video game puts an obstacle in front of you and you're like, well, I guess I have
Starting point is 04:01:02 to fucking deal with it. It's a context thing. I mean, when we fucking thought the Al bear, I really expected to just get decimated, but we managed to do it, you know? But like, yeah, okay, that being one to one with a DM who might edge you to being like, this is not meant to be a thing. Because the, because the roadblock begins. Also, Pathfinder's a very complex system
Starting point is 04:01:31 that the game kind of expects you to know how to play. And Pathfinder, Kingmaker and Pathfinder, Rath of the Righteous have the worst auto level I have ever seen in a CRPG. The auto level makes bad characters. Just picks the wrong thing, yeah. Yeah. Wasn't that in the case in Mass Effect as well? It sure was.
Starting point is 04:02:02 It sure was. Isn't that in the case in Mass Effect as well? It sure was. Yeah, right. It sure was. Well, I mean, look, when you're making a video game design and you're adapting something, like these are the places where you could say, all right, the friendly DM Nudge is missing.
Starting point is 04:02:15 Maybe this is a place where a line of dialogue from the character might passively nudge you instead. Something to imply that, hey, this is actually not meant to be an obstacle. This is meant to be a fuck this I'm out, you know There's other ways to hint at that like if they did not if they went one-to-one and had a robot DM as you said With no actual further context. I think that's a failure on their part to translate that because what that person described in your The message there sounds fucking god awful. That sounds like that is an anti-add. I think that game.
Starting point is 04:02:48 I think that game. And beating Pathfinder Kingmaker is the only reason why I have ever spoken to Mandalore because he did a great review of it a while ago, and I beat it, and then I'm like, I need to reach out to Mandalore and tell him how I had not believed how bad he had said the final dungeon in King Maker was,
Starting point is 04:03:15 but he had, if anything, undersold how bad the final dungeon in King Maker is. Yeah. Oh, but yeah, great game. I beat the whole thing. I got the super secret ending by accident, which is crazy. Incredible game, incredible game, but the game is fighting you. I remember a long time ago, woolly, where you described the genocide route as trying to stop you. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Okay.
Starting point is 04:03:49 Pathfinder Kingmaker and Pathfinder Rath of the righteous feels like the DM is trying to wipe you. But that contextually comes at the end of a sequence of other things where you are now experiencing like, it comes as a conclusion that again, yeah, the game is fighting you, right? Um, and, you know, again, we can pull a soul's analogy if you want to by like fucking off to, to fighting something you're not supposed to weigh too early. But this is dungeon one, mission one. Oh, right away.
Starting point is 04:04:21 Right away. Okay. Right away. I mean, if there's a lesson about running away from things that are just pointless and impossible. Well, when I was playing Pathfinder Wrath of the righteous, after you play for an hour or two, there's like a defend the in mission where like monsters come and attack your location. It was so hard. I had to restart the game and change my party around. It's hard. I would recommend anyone who plays Pathfinder Kingmaker, Pathfinder Wrath of the Right, just to play on easy.
Starting point is 04:04:55 Yeah. Well, that is true. The context of the letter did imply that this was a difficulty setting that they were dealing with as well, not just the default. difficulty setting that they were dealing with as well, not just the default. But yeah, no, uh, yeah, no, that that's just for hearts. It's, it's funny. It's funny how fucked it is. Um, was it? Yeah, I think you were saying that like last time that the update, um, the Baldur's Gate update made it so that you can play on like single save mode,
Starting point is 04:05:24 but the moment you fail, you just convert it to a regular save. Yeah. Yeah. So, like the idea of DM as your buddy and Baldur's Gate 3's development was so fascinating, because the original version of their dice rolls was fucking roll it. That's it. That was the whole system. Fucking roll the That's it that was that that was the whole system fucking roll the dice loser And then they added well, okay the interface for adding buffs to the role within the role interface
Starting point is 04:05:55 Which was a big deal and then they added the inspiration system, which is your DM going listen buddy You did something cool a little while ago. You know what? You can take that role again. Hmm. I'll get I'll give you a mall again on that one and That makes it feel Okay, why you you know, I do love in disco when you're like this is permanent This one you can try again, but you're gonna have to build it and get and earn it. And also, here's the things you did
Starting point is 04:06:28 to make it a little bit easier. Like, that's a really fun risk reward proposition in each of those roles, you know? Or just being like, you know what? Nah, I'm a bitch, I ain't doing that one. Too much cringe. Like, I might die. Harry might just die.
Starting point is 04:06:44 And spoiler, he does, if you fucking try to shoot yourself with his gun. Like, you know, I will say, by the way, as I've been making fun of Pathfinder and rather, both of them, that DM being mean to you, you put up with it because he'll let the story go in a wild variety of directions. Pathfinder, Wrath of the Rites has bespoke storylines for becoming a nature god, a lich, an angel, a devil, a gold dragon,
Starting point is 04:07:25 and a man made entirely out of a swarm of flesh-eating bugs. Yeah. She knows shit. All right, that'll do. I will see you all in Florida. Have fun in Florida, will you? Come back safe! you

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