Castle Super Beast - CSB 291: Eiji Kinafune

Episode Date: October 22, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 ["Sailor Moon Theme"] Hello! What's up? I think there's a non-zero possibility that when we talked about Virgil the villain last week I might have caused something to happen. I don't know if Addie Shytar is out there clicking play or not. I generally assume not. But he tweeted out this week, I'm on Team Mundus. Mundus was a misunderstood visionary. He was going off about how Virgil is not shackled by the non-heroism of being a father, and in fact leaving your wife and kids to pursue power is the real heroic journey.
Starting point is 00:01:33 And I think the follow-up to that discourse is like, okay guys, but hey, hey, giant hook, here's the fucking Mundus, right? What's the bit? He only wanted to reunite humanity with their true overlords. He was the real victim here trying to save us from ourselves with some cosmic tough love. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, it was all a troll all along. It was trolling, trolling all along. Oh, man. I don't believe that for a second that seems Like everyone's like oh, that's obviously bait right that's big bait time but like It as somebody as somebody who says stupid stupid shit all the time and
Starting point is 00:02:21 Then goes on double down when it turns out that people don't like the stupid thing that you said. So people go, ah, it's a joke. So it's joking. He was joking the whole time, guys. Ah, you got trolled. He's not stupid. Pat wouldn't have said a dumb thing. Yeah. Well, so that's the bit of that. Like the Mundus discussion is obviously over the top and pushed to the limit, but the Virgil discussion is obviously over the top and pushed to the limit, but the Virgil discussion is not. That's a real topic that people have and are going back and forth on. So anyway, I was only pretending. Only a true anti-hero would just nut and run.
Starting point is 00:03:03 I don't think he had to run. I think he just tricked out of there. No cleanup. Oh, oh, oh, that's terrible. That's terrible. Oh, shit. Has my volume decreased? Hmm. Not mine.
Starting point is 00:03:24 I can hear you just fine. Yeah, which is the weird part actually hmm Maxed out over here You're maxed out on at least the OBS side, but I suspect I think I know what might be part of the issue He's maxed out Yeah I think a knob might have gotten turned somewhere. Or a little something like that.
Starting point is 00:03:50 It's possible. Do we take a break or do I just shoot the shit? Um... Yeah, yeah, yeah, let me take a quick break. One second. Let's take a little second. Uh, okay. How's that sound, folks?
Starting point is 00:04:04 I think that should be okay. What's the deal with live audio broadcasting? Is it always a total pain? Yeeeeeah. Yeah it is! Woo! It is! It rules. It rules how it's live. I'm a huge fan of that. Fantastic. So anyways, yes. Excellent. Excellent. Grade A. Triple S. Quadruple S tier trolling even. Who could have seen it coming? Not me. Yeah. What's going on? How's your week? I Let's see. I played a lot of metaphor is what I did That's that's why I did I was I was playing that I heard that you became a more tall man
Starting point is 00:04:55 You know what let's just go there first so I've been playing UFO 50 or UFO 50 However, you want to pronounce it? for go and Or ufo 50 however you want to pronounce it 50. Yeah, I'll go go And and We hit the point where I was playing ufo 50 where I started to play I think is game 7 maybe game 8 Mortals yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah more tall and So I really liked Ninpeck,
Starting point is 00:05:28 the side scrolling little ninja game. That thing was fucking hard. It's really hard. That's a Ness game, man. It's Song Song. It's what if Song Song stepped on your balls even harder? I think that, what do you call it? I think Ninpeck's pretty good. And I loved Barbuda
Starting point is 00:05:45 I got really far in Barbuda Barbuda scratches that like Zelda 2 kind of feeling a little bit It's got it's got it's got shit, but met our food. Oh and fucking plotting though Okay, so Barbuda is like Zelda 2 Metroidvania, and you are slow as fuck, but there's there's stuff there in Barbuda but fuck all that Mortal is a game that if it had three times as many levels you could buy that for $25 on Steam. Mortal is like legitimate like one of the best like 8-bit era games I have ever played and it is awesome if I played that as a kid too I would be so sad and and scared of the concept as well like every time you have to go blow yourself up and just die like it's horrifying there is so much going on with mortall so you explained it a couple weeks ago but I will explain it again mort, you get a certain amount of lives and the only thing you can do is kill yourself
Starting point is 00:06:48 by either torpedoing, blowing yourself up, or making your guy into a little blob. You better do it for progress. And over the course of, I think it's eight levels? Is it eight levels? I didn't get through all of them. Nine levels? There's a list. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:07:02 There's a list, yeah. They go through a shocking variety of cool gameplay mechanics I have never seen a game do water pipe mechanics better oh then this 8-bit throwback game about killing yourself it's it's wild that like the difference in tone between like say something like a hell divers where it's like sacrifice yourself for super democracy right but there's that little bit of like well if you're a really really good soldier you don't have to die you can just be really good you know and here it's like no no this is the plan go make go open up that block the only way we can.
Starting point is 00:07:46 So did you beat more tall? I didn't beat more tall. But even the way that some of those enemies, like the little crawlers are walking, and you try to jump over them, and they auto-correct underneath you to move in your directions, but you can't jump over them.
Starting point is 00:08:04 It's like absolutely no platforming allowed. Die if you want to make it past this thing. So, I beat Mortall. I sat down to play UFO 50, and it became instead a full stream of Mortall. Because Mortall gets pretty tough. And the reason why more tall gets pretty tough is that the amount of lives you bring into each level is the amount of lives you ended the last level on. So I was running into a situation where I entered in a level three with like five lives and you can't beat level three with five lives. So you go back and redo old levels better so that you can carry more lives
Starting point is 00:08:46 forward. And there's so many things, like first of all it's an incredible puzzle game that feels good, looks good. The soundtrack is awesome, but it also has a bunch of cute little, it has a bunch of cute little things that happen that really elevate it. So first of all, the game has one song. Just like an old fashioned NES game, there is one song and it is really good. It is very catchy. It's great. But when you start a new type of stage, if you start a new a new type of stage right if you start a new type of stage you'll hear like a completely unique jingle to start the stage and you're like oh is this a new track no it just immediately goes back to the same song you've been hearing for like hours early in the consoles lifecycle and they have
Starting point is 00:09:41 not figured out how to get complex with the audio yet. Um, and so it goes from like, Hey, do you understand more tall? Do you understand platforms? Do you understand water? Do you understand fire and tree mechanics? And it's all going in all like cool ass places. Um, and then you get to the final batch of levels in which you can't use your ship anymore. The final two levels, there's no ship. You're doing it from doorways. So, when you die, you have a guy come out of a doorway. They can't float down the screen and bullshit anything. Oh, you can't parachute in, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Yeah, and the last two levels have no music at all. Okay. They are dead silent, and they are creepy as a result. Well, so there's a lack of music in a bunch of the early games, right? Barbuda is completely silent, it feels. Barbuda is like almost entirely silent and it really makes you feel the Barbuda.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Yeah, no, it does. You do, yes, it elicits the Barbudauda this of it and no what was the other one I want to say Alien Alien hunter or something like that Yeah, alien alien. Yeah bug hunter. I hate I loved it. I hate I Hunter was so fun dude the strategy bug strategy, it was also mostly silent. It's just into the region. Yeah, it's great.
Starting point is 00:11:10 It's great. I thought Paint Race was all right. I didn't dig that much. It was all right. It was all right. I also didn't dig it, but I saw what it was doing. I'm like, it's all right. It's Snake with extra steps, you know, is basically what it is.
Starting point is 00:11:23 I forget the name of it, but that magic girl one that's like Pac-Man? Oh, I didn't play it. Oh, it's good. It's good. It's not my thing, but also it's quite good. So, Mortall, right, which sounds like your standout so far. Yeah, I'm going chronological, so Mortall is like the first one that I'm like, I'm beating the Mortall.
Starting point is 00:11:40 I'm beating Mortall. So, you have not seen Mortal 2. So there's something, UFO50 has maybe the funniest interaction I've ever had with someone in chat, like in my heart, not like ha ha I'd watch that it's so funny, but when I'm playing it and I'm having trouble with a certain part and someone in the chat says, you know, more tall two is a lot easier to start for beginners. And I went, is that true? And apparently, yes, more tall two is easier to learn for beginners. And it's like this is actually just right over there just a couple of rows down in the in the like classic game sense I think I get what
Starting point is 00:12:32 they mean because you'll pick a character and start dealing with enemies and progressing a bit faster yeah but it's still more challenging with some of the other things that asks you to do so like because you can do more the game style changes and You kill more things so it feels as if it's easier, but it's not that direct a comparison. You know But they're direct sequel they are but it's like more tall to is much more like like Legend of Kage Than it is Mortal. I cannot believe that there are direct sequels to games on UFO. That takes the...
Starting point is 00:13:17 So UFO 50 is like, I am seven games in. Let's see, one, two, three, four, five, six. Six! I am six games in. Let's see one two three four five six six. I'm six games in Oh, actually, I played the last the the With the the one afterwards which I forgot what a krill agar or something. It's like It's down well, but up. Oh made by the down well people It is like an early early contender for like Velgris I played Velgris. That's a thing. What a real sounding game name This is like a game of the year contender easy. Oh, yeah, like and you're like, yeah like because these are all
Starting point is 00:13:57 Rock-solid games. The ones I hate the ones I hate are still rock solid and and you and this is like not even going through all 50, you know? It's just they're solid as fuck when you spend... I am six... No, I'm seven of 50. So wait, wait, wait. You bounced off of Bug Hunter, but you liked Avianos. Which one's Avianos? Did you play Avianos?
Starting point is 00:14:24 No, I'm going chronological, man. man, okay, okay, okay, okay? One two three four five six seven okay, all right all right all right Yeah, yeah, all right. I mean that's that yeah, that's there's there's some wild shit up ahead for sure There's some RPGs in there Yeah, I've been I've been told about a full ass cowboy Final Fantasy that's just sitting there. Bro, incredible. Incredible. I think, though, when you play the fucking NIMPAC, it's like, this does not expect you
Starting point is 00:15:06 to sit here and hit your head against it, you know? And- Oh, it does. Well, here's the- you're wrong. It does. It does expect that. I feel like NIMPAC is like a check this arcade game out. Isn't it bullshit?
Starting point is 00:15:19 All right, now move on. No, these are all real. You know how I know that? Because I beat Mortall and I got to see what's at the end of mortall. Uh-huh Do you know what you unlock when you beat mortall? You unlock the code which I now forget but I could just look up That you can type into the terminal the hidden terminal inside UFO 50
Starting point is 00:15:41 To activate mortall's bonus mode. Okay. Yeah. You want to hazard a guess what Mortals bonus mode is? More levels? No, it's the same, it's the whole game with 150 lives. You started level one and you have to go through the whole fucking thing in 150, which I think is the minimum amount.
Starting point is 00:16:05 Yeah. I think that is the perfect amount. So that is, so more tall too is 100 lives, one big stage go, you know? Yeah. I beat, I beat a couple of them and yeah, I think some of them just gave extra secret levels upon completion and some other things.
Starting point is 00:16:30 I might wanna go back and beat Barpuda. Yeah, that could be done with just one time overall. But I was just like, yo, on Ninpack, I sat with Ninpack for like, I did a couple runs, I gave it a real, and I was like, this thing is, like the perfect run of NINPACK is like super frustrating. It is, it is NINPACK. Yeah. So NINPACK is mean. I guess the thought I have is like, if you were trying to hit the credits of each game before moving on
Starting point is 00:16:58 to the next one, NINPACK would give you a very bad time and perhaps some of those are good. Like no one's good at all those genres. No, no. So something's going to stop you. You would ruin your experience if you didn't stop and just move on to the next at some point. No, because I hit four of them that I was like, mm-mm. I played like two levels and I'm like, uh-uh, no, uh-uh, mm-mm. The four that I spent the most time with are Barbuda,
Starting point is 00:17:21 Valgris, Mortal, and Impact. Now when I was a kid with a 250, 55 and 1 cartridge, I did just jump around and hit random games. Oh absolutely. You know, and watch that snail at the bottom of the screen. Yeah, my dad got me a pirate Nintendo cartridge and it had 100 games on it, or 50 games or whatever, and I remember scrolling down and just grabbing Urban Champions, let's try this out, oh this sucks or like 50 versions of
Starting point is 00:17:49 Fucking balloon fight that are all just weirdly hacked and not acted like broken in different way. Yeah, that was cool Remember remember wild ball. Did you ever play have wild ball on yours? I did not play wild ball is rock-paper-scissors But every time you win a digital pixel of the girls clothes disappears and flashes away Oh, that's why and having a ball And then what it's like what it's down to like the last two just like the bikini then like the stars in the sky Fade away, and then the next Fades away
Starting point is 00:18:22 like holding the controller like oh fuck you game The moon fades away and you're like holding the controller like, oh fuck you game! Come on! Come on! And then look around and hope that you know, hope that God doesn't see that you're playing wild ball God Absolute absolute bullshit Yeah But yeah, I know UFO feel 50 is is fucking a plus incredible total steel
Starting point is 00:18:50 It's a steel. Um, how about hold on? UFO 50 It's 3250, but it's 50. Yeah, right. Yeah No, there's some there's some great shit that I want to talk to you about like when you get to it further down the 30 divided by 50 That is that can't be correct. Is that 60 cents a game? That's crazy And what's fun too is that you could be in the mood to just play? UFO 50 and pop it in and yeah
Starting point is 00:19:20 Try some shit or to load up the one you want more tall or something specific and be like yeah more of that. More tall. I could blow like mold like a full weekend on more tall if I wanted to beat that 150 lives version. So I never played much of Spelunky but like. Spelunky is Barbuda. I assume I assume that like.
Starting point is 00:19:43 No La Mulana is Barbuda. I assume that like... No, La Mulana is Barbuda. Sorry. Yes, okay, right. Spelunky is vicious. I have played a good deal of Spelunky 2, and Spelunky 2 is the only pure roguelike I have ever played. I just feel like the name, like Spelunky has been popping off in like ever since like the
Starting point is 00:20:06 first Humble Bundles. It's been just an indie game I've heard about forever and you know, like I never really touched much of it. But if it's been around this long, I assume it's got to be pretty fun. Spelunky is really good. It is vicious. It is absolutely vicious. The only way you learn anything is by instantly dying.
Starting point is 00:20:29 And does it change every time you start? Yes. Like Binding of Isaac, but with no unlocks, and it's much meaner than Isaac. Is the term rogue rogue like getting weirdly elitely gate-capped in some way that it's like it oh it's always been that you just you don't play enough of them to have entered into the discourse if you boot up the game and the level changes can we we just like? No, no, that is that is it. Okay, I'm sorry. That is ignorant. Rogue legacy. Okay, that is what is Baldur's Gate just Diablo the same fucking texture shit. What the perspective? No, here's here's the difference. you ready? I'm gonna hit you with it's really simple
Starting point is 00:21:27 rogue the rogue Designator determines you start a new game every time and it's a randomly generated level with randomly generator hazards, etc, right the like designation is No permanent upgrades other than human knowledge. The light designation is there are permanent upgrades. Okay. So every rogue-like that you play and enjoy is a rogue-like because you have upgrades. Because they are better. Because they are much more palatable to 99% of people because Spelunky and Rogue and a couple other ones are like,
Starting point is 00:22:11 Hey, you know how you get good? You fucking take your balls out and fucking man up and do it. Well, you'll have to forgive. I get that designator now. You'll have to forgive me if in real conversation if someone were to Start standing ten toes down on this if I if they were to find me walking away from the conversation Yes, so it's the fun. So the the conversations really stupid So I explained the the deal right the conversation is super dumb because the amount of rogue likes versus rogue lights is 1 to 99. Yeah, most games I've played have that little, have the permanent upgrade. Yeah, the first one I've ever played was Rogue Legacy. That's where all of my foundations come from? Christ. Rogue, Spelunky 1, Spelunky 2, that physics wizard game that I forget the name of, someone in the chat will let me know what the physics wizard game
Starting point is 00:23:15 is. All those games that look like they're made out of ASCII, like Caves of Cud, Noita, etc. Yeah, these are all rogues. And the reason why I'm having to struggle to think of them is because I can't remember their fucking names, because who gives a shit? I want macro upgrades! I want to fucking unlock the goddamn black coat in Hades too please so chalice dungeons are roamed like a more less than yes okay that's right yeah nailed
Starting point is 00:23:52 it and so if you if you're if you're holding a sword there's a corpse run and and there's there's I don't know a boss that's really hard is Is that a Souls-like? No. Souls-like is actually like a very specific set of criteria. There's more than you would think. Yeah. Like all those games that kind of look and feel the same, they actually like are way similar than you would think when you write them. What it actually feels like it is, is when you're watching a trailer and you see a boss
Starting point is 00:24:26 fight of a big monster swinging at a little playable character and it's doing so with like a pattern that's not too, too fast. It's a little bit slow and needs you to roll out of the way. That's a soul's like. And there's a stamina bar. Yeah. To me, to me is like, do you have a stamina bar and a dodge roll? And where's the camera? Because like Souls games have an incredibly specific camera. And I saw an interview with Miyazaki as to like, hey, why are enemies always enormous or all like even human enemies, they're supposed to be the same size as you. Why are they like really big in Souls games? And it's because the placement of the camera makes it awkward for human-sized enemies
Starting point is 00:25:08 Enemies have to be like 10 feet tall for the camera to look at them straight on then some games are 2d and not even Taking camera 3d into account right like titan souls top view or your you know death scambit You know side view or whatever Sultan sanctuary etc. I think titan souls isn't that the one you die in one hit that's that's funny that has souls in the title and we're talking about in this discussion because that is like not it's very not like a souls like at all but it says souls of the title ah what! What a shitty genre. Man. If you need to figure out what is a Souls-like and is not,
Starting point is 00:25:49 you could check out, Aaron Pineapple does a video series where he goes, I just found 20 more Souls-likes and played them, and he has played like, god damn, like 100 to 150 of these these fucking things and the quality range is high. It's so fascinating how much we care about this stuff because the act of foldering things as human beings is so satisfying. It's really interesting. I said we sound hill 2 was last week and
Starting point is 00:26:28 Someone pointed out that Video games have terrible genres except for horror Horror is the only non Mechanical video game genre name and it describes a huge variety of games that have different gameplay Because it's like well, but is it spooky though? Okay, so then well that this is interesting though because I ran into some trouble because we someone on the slop stream sent in some footage of fear and
Starting point is 00:27:03 I was like oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What a perfect example to fuck up this conversation. Oh yeah, here, that game, that's the one where, it's a horror game, but you're running and gunning, really, it's an FPS, like you're. You mean first encounter assault, like on? Sure, there you go, you know, not even for three-er, for that matter. But it's like You know, not even for 3er for that matter But it's like wait, so this isn't the category of all the survival horror and scary games
Starting point is 00:27:35 But like mainly it's an FPS that has horror themes right, because the main thing you're still doing is headshotting soldiers and so Fear is I played fear and I played a little bit of fear to fear one is Awesome. First of all, that game is incredible But they tried to do something very interesting and they failed utterly to do it But it's still cool that they tried the idea in Fear is that you are a John Woo Matrix man, you're doing wall runs and kicks and slow-mo shit and everything's blowing up, and you are an action man, but you can't shoot ghosts.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Right. Okay. And so when the little girl Alma shows up to do her ghost nonsense at you, you can't just shoot ghosts because that doesn't work, right? And that's where the fear is supposed to come in, where it's like, yeah, you can kill anybody, but you can't shoot ghosts, right? This completely falls apart in the game's final level in which you discover that you can in fact shoot ghosts, right? This completely falls apart in the game's final level, in which you discover that you can, in fact, shoot ghosts. With the right kind of gun or bullet. No, you just shoot them.
Starting point is 00:28:52 You just literally fucking shoot them. Oh, man. That's embarrassing for the ghosts. It is like one of the most brain-dead fucking finales ever, is that the final level is you going through a level and shooting like ghosts Materializing out of the walls and it's not just like that. It's stupid It also is like really not fun at all because they're just like they just phase through the it sucks Because I'm like are you are you are you playing a tactical shooter with jump scares?
Starting point is 00:29:19 You know is the thought process here. Yes, that is exactly what you're doing. Yeah now Yeah, and so that's where I'm like this is always been Foldered in with horror games to me, you know, but is it really you know? It's funny cuz like that game has like some of the best shooting of like Any any game like it's incredible like it is it is it is a single-player Shooter, I think they put the horror element on it because if it was just like Military Man, that it would be like really dull.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Sure. Yeah. Like narratively. But then it's like, could you just take the dressing of horror and drop it on like any genre and still, you know. Yeah, you could totally do that. You throw horror on anything. It's a good sauce.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Is Typing of the Dead a horror game? Paige actually recently beat Typing of the Dead Overkill. That is horror camp themed. There's no fear there. Yeah, no. But anyway, so the labels are interesting. That's going to come back up in a minute to as I played a Dragon Ball game for get into fighting games So oh, yeah
Starting point is 00:30:32 That that is a discussion as well Is that the game we're really wrong about? What what it might be? Well, okay. I I have I have since updated and my my my Wiki entry for the Tenkaichi series. So I remember... So the thing that I was wrong about when we talked about a Tenkaichi or Budokai or whatever... Budokai Tenkaichi is actually the... Is that I said nobody played this with other people. And apparently people did.
Starting point is 00:31:06 The real thing, because the camera didn't work very well in 2 player. It's funny you should say that. But the reason why I said that is because I never wanted to play that game with other people. I just wanted to play the story stuff and all that. But I remember showing you Budokai 10KG2, the one with the really good cell shape. Okay, maybe two or three. Decades ago.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Decades ago. And I was showing it off and you were unimpressed because the actual fighting mechanics were not very in depth. And I said, yeah, but look at all these characters, though. Yes. Which was my actual like, but shut up and look how many different versions of Vegeta you can play.
Starting point is 00:31:55 I remember being impressed with the cell shading and the way things looked in Budokai original one. I remember when I first saw that like not even before the tenkaichi series started I saw we saw like um, but but a chi one had like the like control piccolo's a Special beam cannon to shoot through raditz kind of moment and I was like, whoa, that's cool That's crazy. Um And Yeah, yeah, like I was like, okay, so we have a dragon ball fighting game now Of course, there's the old like super 2d ones and stuff that were always there and those would get you'd go super far away
Starting point is 00:32:30 From each other. They'd be butoden, you know where the games you'd be split-screen and just tossing balls from a million miles away It was its goofy own thing And then like they there was like hyper dimension like that was a pretty crazy Super Nintendo game that was like a real fighter, Ultimate Battle 22, all these ones. And I would go in there to see like, yeah, what's Dragon Ball fighting games doing? And so the Budokai series was always like, well, by Budokai 3, yeah, you have every version of every character. Like you pick a Goku and then you just scroll through the list and go nuts. Which Goku do you want?
Starting point is 00:33:04 All of them. What's your favorite Goku? Right. And that was the main appeal is just that everyone is here. And then there was also like, yeah, they'd stack these mechanics on mechanics where you'd go into basically the wager system in like Injustice. CBS? Injustice.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Oh, Injustice. Okay. But then if you wagered the wrong or the right thing, then it could go tojustice. Oh, injustice. But then like if you wagered like the wrong or the right thing, then it could go to a second kind of fight sequence. And you'd basically just start QTE programming of Dragon Ball fight, which, you know, if you're in that era of like, hey, I like my CyberConnect 22, just like fancy pretty shit happening and it's like, it looks really cool.
Starting point is 00:33:41 It looks Dragon Ball, but you're, you're, you're not playing as much. It's just going into an FMV at that point. Um, you know, I was like, okay, well, as long as it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like it looks really cool. It looks Dragon Ball, but you're you're you're not playing as much It's just going into an FMV at that point You know I was like okay well as long as it feels Dragon Ball enough I suppose, but you know it was always like it's an anime fighter over here doing its thing um This is just 3d near ultimate hero Yeah Which was bad smash with with the cool cutscenes. Anyway. Dude, Ultimate Hero is like the largest delta between I want to see it and I want to play it. So when Tenkaichi
Starting point is 00:34:13 came out and it was like you lose track of the enemy and then your camera is just panning around looking for them for like a whole bunch of the fight. I was like, this feels bad. And I just like, it was mechanically rough. And then yeah, they added stuff and they did speed a lot of that up over the years. I kind of wasn't paying attention to much of where it ended. But similar to how Neuraltaimit Hero ended up at Ultimate Ninja Storm, right?
Starting point is 00:34:39 Like those games, basically they kind of went like, all right, what if we didn't do Smash and we just put it in 3D arena fighter things and then when you hit the supers, they still do the big fancy shit, so that's always fun. Yeah, and we're ultimate, sorry, Ultimate Ninja Storm, or whatever the fuck it's called, has become the template for your anime fighter.
Starting point is 00:34:59 And I think for that thing, it actually works really well for that format. Well, because before that point, the Tomy games, the great ninja clash, were better mechanically, but they didn't have as fancy, pretty supers to look at. And so now you bring the two together and you get this. So with the Budokai Tenkaichi series, over the years they mechanically sped things up, they added
Starting point is 00:35:26 more and then the main thing, the take home, is that there is a massive single player like suite of things to appreciate and enjoy as a Dragon Ball fan. That you don't have to fight other people for and run into the game's extreme mechanical problems. And so here, Sparking Zero is the latest in this franchise and what you're getting, it's a little bit of that like, hey, we're not making, All-Star Battle is not a fighting game, it's a JoJo game, is what the developer said at the time. It's a little bit of like this where you're like the sparking zero has shit going on Single player wise that I could only dream that like a game like Dragon Ball fighters would have it's there There is some crazy shit have you seen the first person shit
Starting point is 00:36:22 Which which aspects specifically there is a function in Sparking Zero to watch cutscenes from the first person perspective of characters inside them. Wow, okay. Yeah, no, not even. That's great. One of my favorite things in the best Dragon Ball piece of media I've ever seen was the first person mode in the Super Broly movie. So that shit is, it's a fraction of how cool that was. That's awesome. Yeah, the overall experience of like, the main menu is Goku teleporting around, visiting all his friends and hanging out and stuff, and then going to all these places. And then what you're doing as you go through the episodes, which are, you know, picking a character and then flashing through their chapters in the canon timeline. And then there's like the what if chapters, which are, you know, kind of wild and stuff.
Starting point is 00:37:18 And then you, you know, you have your online bracket. You can just do a tournament like a, you know, a full on online or offline bracket and have the eight people or so. All these little moments and stuff you can do lead to a bunch of secret unlocks and bits where you get like dragon balls and then when you put enough dragon balls together you summon Shenron, make a wish and you can wish for money to buy characters, you can wish for whatever, a bunch of shit, you know, to like speed up the progress of unlocking the billion things there are to unlock in the game because there's every character with every possible costume. Hey, I heard you like unlocking characters in your single player mode in a fighting game. Well, guess what? This fucking game has the most characters ever.
Starting point is 00:38:01 You're reposting that meme where you're like, man, back to the good old days of playing the game to unlock it, fuck the buying your character a pass shit, which admittedly is pretty fucking dumb, then yeah, you're gonna love this. It's a nightmare if you ever had to sit and do it tournament-wise, but that's not gonna happen because that's not what the game is for. It's not gonna happen. While we were talking, I looked at some videos of competitive Dragon Ball Zero sparking gameplay. And it's, man, I'm excited to try out
Starting point is 00:38:32 that first person mode in the story. When I grabbed this and I saw it said, you know, split screen local co-op on it, I was like, that's awesome, great. The others had it going on PlayStation from the it's a series that always had it. So that makes sense. Let's get in there. You know, and you fucking boot it up. And it's like, hey, split screen, local co-op, plug in your controller, you can only fight in the hyperbolic time chamber you cannot access any other levels because
Starting point is 00:39:05 the Xbox Series S apparently needs only that and so that was the limiting factor on it. And it's like... To be in a time where sitting on the couch playing local is the afterthought of a feature that to be honest at some point probably was not even in the game, you know? And then someone went, well, we should probably put split screen in. And they went, all right, here, training room, you know, don't even pick your, there's no like, assign your controller left or right type moment.
Starting point is 00:39:39 It's still just like a picking the CPU, but then the player two takes over. And on all menus, that player two has like that control and stuff. So it's kind of like, it really is just like, oh, you duplicated the player one input and now you split it up for this mode. There's no like screen, pick a controller side moment or whatever. It's the most afterthought feature. It's devil may cry three, take control of the doppelganger or Virgil when you plug in the controller type shit, you know?
Starting point is 00:40:07 Can I, can I sidetrack us for just a second? So when you said the Xbox Series S, I had a couple of thoughts. The first of which is like, we have now because of Microsoft gone through two console generations that have been defined by, well, Microsoft didn't ship the thing with the thing, so we got to kneecap these games on like ten different fucking platforms because of this shit, because the Xbox 360 didn't have to have a hard drive, and the Xbox Series S is like significantly underpowered, though technically compatible with the modern games.
Starting point is 00:40:50 And it's like this sucks really bad, but also, you know what I also thought, well Lee, I'm sitting here trying to formulate that thought and I had to pull up the Xbox Wikipedia page because Xbox has fucked up their naming shit so bad I couldn't remember if the fucking Xbox next to me is an Xbox one or not because I forgot that the series X and X is a new one just called Xbox that's the official name of this is just so. So you're thinking of for a second
Starting point is 00:41:26 you're thinking of the Xbox and then the Xbox one and then the Xbox one X and then the Xbox one S. However, we have moved to the Xbox One to the Xbox. Like officially, this thing has the same name as the Xbox original, it just has a little subtitle that says Series X. We all laughed at the idea of like why we called it the 360 because it was a bigger number than two. Cause you do a 360 and then walk away.
Starting point is 00:42:05 And that philosophy has continued across the entire naming of all of their consoles. Yeah, every single one is like a gimmick name that makes it super confusing. But there's a part of me that kind of thinks that they almost probably wanna lean in because the thought process, at some point, it's so bad that it must be
Starting point is 00:42:26 yeah it's the latest one on the shelf go to the store and get the one that you see there say iphone don't stop to think about getting a different version get the one that's the latest one that the kids want but here's the thing when you walk into a store and say, I would like the new iPhone, they just bring you the newest iPhone and the only difference between the newest iPhone and an older iPhone is that it is newer and better and yada and yada, maybe has different cable. Well, they'll go, what size do you want the storage to be
Starting point is 00:42:59 or whatever? Sure. But when I go into a store and say, I would like an Xbox and they all play different games, they all play different games. And I imagine that that employee or at least what Microsoft wants that employee to say is, yeah, here's the most expensive Series X, top of the line one. Yes, but when I walk in and say, I would like to buy an Xbox that plays Xbox One games. Yes, well, and then... What the fuck do they hand me based off of what I said?
Starting point is 00:43:36 And then the thing you bring home doesn't work with the green boxes that your kid already has. Yes, yes, exactly. Of course. your kid already has yes yes exactly of course cuz I when I say Xbox one games I mean Xbox games that came out in 2005 2006 2007 on the original rise of Rome No, I mean no, I mean like football metal metal wolf Yes, yes original Cuz Xbox one was called Xbox one the whole time of the 316 confusion powers them I think it I think they get off. I think they're I think they're working up real hard right now Just knowing about the confusion
Starting point is 00:44:23 real hard right now just knowing about the confusion. Like we have like I, you know what, I'm gonna apologize to Nintendo. I went in on Nintendo, maybe the hardest I've ever gone on any naming thing about the new Nintendo 3DS. Which I genuinely still think is the worst overall name ever. Because they did release a 3DS after that. That was a new, it was a different kind of new Nintendo 3DS. But that was singularly confusing for that one skew which then got chopped off. The Xbox thing is just getting worse and worse. You know what I think they they're gonna fucking call it I think they're gonna call the next one like the Xbox series L or something and just it'll
Starting point is 00:45:11 Pretend that it's like a different fucking box. It's already that it's the same thing, but it's the different thing I think the last word on it is simply that what do people call it on the streets and people say PS4 people say PS5 People say switch and people say Xbox no matter where no matter when no matter what generation people just say yeah it's on Xbox you get that there's there there's no like it the brand the marketing angle of it just is eliminated and we all just go it's Xbox and because who's gonna say what the fuck they mean playstations gonna announce a new console in like three years or something and we're all gonna sit around try to figure out what the fuck they mean? PlayStation's gonna announce a new console in like three years or something,
Starting point is 00:45:45 and we're all gonna sit around and pretend like we don't know what it's gonna be called. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yeah. No, so I mean, once upon a time, we used to save the Nintendo, right? And like, those days are gone, admittedly. But this is essentially what Microsoft probably wants.
Starting point is 00:46:03 Now all of this is an aside from the fact that it is also the lowest common denominator, holding down what is possible. To the point where when it goes in the other direction, like, Larian got special considerations for the series S for Baldur's Gate, because that was holding up the Xbox release of that game for months.
Starting point is 00:46:28 Cause they were like, split screen has to work exactly the same on all of them. And Larry was like, it's not going to. It's just, it won't. It's not gonna be good. So I saw in this conversation though, confirmation from folks here that yes, when they announced Sparkinging zero there was no local Couch play and they added it after people Complained nice being missing so you feel it feels like the most Afterthought thing and that is if is that not the ultimate microcosm of like
Starting point is 00:47:04 The statement on the game as a whole in a way, right? Why would you want to play against local? What? What who cares i'm i'm getting online And i'm going fucking super saiyan god super saiyan. No, no, no, no, hold on. You're going online to encounter the most online to encounter the most plugger society that there ever has been. By all means. I mean, Eddie, you have an entire 10 seconds, or if not 15, to do it because... I can't believe these motherfuckers beat me up with Yejerobe. I'm out of here. That final Shenron punch has taken a minute, you know? I always... But hey, hey, but here we go,
Starting point is 00:47:44 right? Let's go back around now. When Dragon Ball FighterZ was announcing its characters, who was I number one most requesting from the jump? Yajirobe. The whole time. I'm like, let's go original Dragon Ball. Let's go goofy characters. Let him cut your fucking tail off as his ultimate and not only is Yajirobe here
Starting point is 00:48:08 He's busted because he sends who beans his ass and stalls out so like Yajirobe the guy. It's really funny because It's really really funny because when we were in the lead up to Dragon Ball fighters The the overwhelming thing was like wow, this looks great. I can't wait to play it. What's up with this roster though? Oh my god We need like 400 more characters I mean Budokan Tenkichi had it and it's like but we want to actually be able to play this game against other people So having these characters work good is important but what I what's strange is that like it really says a lot about the crux between Dragon Ball fans and fighting game fans and which one there is more of because
Starting point is 00:48:50 People are people are happy to play with their dolls in Spartan Zero and Like that's what that game is fucking or it's great when I buy it and play it It's going to be to play with my fucking great. It is excellent at just enjoying your Dragonball 3d toy collection. It's really really good at that and it's like And the fact that it's like now you're coming back at it from this post super thing and daima
Starting point is 00:49:21 Just launched the new Dragon Ball series as well So that's gonna be coming into it as well. It really is just a great little place to play with your toys and what, and like you can pitch an Enba and then turn into the red version with the sword and do the, yeah. That's my favorite character, so yes, I'm gonna do that.
Starting point is 00:49:36 You know, it's all there. That's my favorite Dragon Ball movie. And then it's like what's happening mechanically, and it's like well there are a lot of mechanics, because over the years they've added more and more and more to them. So like, you can absolutely do these things where it's like, okay, there's a basic combo, then there's a launcher
Starting point is 00:49:51 and then you can do follow-ups and chasers. And you can not just block or not just counter but you can also do instant transmissions. And like, there's a lot of ways to do kind of like the same thing but over the course of this franchise they've just stacked up these different mechanics that were brand new at the time of the original game and they're all here together you know and going through the advanced tutorials and stuff was quite interesting to see like what
Starting point is 00:50:18 movement and all these other things kind of turn into um but yeah no it really is it's like no matter what all that is like, it's like at the end of the day, you just wanna watch that awesome cutscene play out and Ultra Instinct is gonna teleport behind you and put the hand out and then you're gonna get all blown up and it's gonna look awesome and his hair is gonna glow and you're gonna be like, yeah!
Starting point is 00:50:42 I saw a video that was somebody putting it up on social media that was like, hey, how the fuck do I beat Goku is Jiren in the story mode? And he posts a clip of like Goku and Ultra Instinct just dodging like literally every single attack that he goes. And like, man, that seems like it would suck shit for a fighting game, but I'm looking at that going, oh, he's ultra instinct, he can't even hit it, ah! And, you know, and then you've got the mission where you've gotta fight great ape Vegeta, who's in Uzaru form, and he's just stomping his ass
Starting point is 00:51:15 all over you, and you pretty much have to learn the one thing about, what are the most busted things about the games ultimately? Where you're just like, okay, you gotta sit there, charge, and then go into your sparking form, and then just mash X for your life. Just- just literally- just do the infinite combo, because- Hey, guess what, man? You know?
Starting point is 00:51:34 That's probably the hardest fight Goku ever fought. It's- it's completely unfair, right? But, like, the- It is! That fight is INSANELY unfair, for real! And, like- Like, in the, in the manga! And on the official Twitter, they're just like, you know, select an easier difficulty and continue. Waaal haraar! You know?
Starting point is 00:51:54 But like, the thing, the get-good moment, right? Of if you're kinda, like, you know, trying to get past it or so, is stand there, hold your charge button, right, for as long as it takes till it maxes out, then teleport behind them and just mash attack. And that's the get good. That's Dragon Ball, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:20 That's canon. Yes, so no, so these products, you know, they exist for good reason, and they sell well for good reason and killing it, right? More people on that shit than any other fucking thing on the Steam list for a while there. And I really do, I want to come back to it, but just like, I feel like that aspect of, because when I wanted to pop it in and play, I was like, yeah, let me go and kind of unlock as many as I can in this short period of time
Starting point is 00:52:47 just to have people to jump around, because that's the whole game, right? We don't have characters to unlock, then what the fuck are we doing? And the doing missions to get Shenron balls to wish for the thing is a really, that's a fun bit to put into your progression bits, you know, and it feels like while you're not playing,
Starting point is 00:53:08 while you're doing all these little extra things around the menus, like you're getting a very just Dragon Ball museum experience, it's a Dragon Ball museum. That's what it is. It is. Hey, do you like Dragon Ball? It is a 3D Dragon Ball museum. And it's, you know, and that's great.
Starting point is 00:53:28 And yeah, and then they're like, hey, I guess what's like, yeah, here's your season pass and other like 100 characters or whatever's gonna come at some point, get the early unlocks for this and that. Yeah, there's everybody, it's an infinite thing, whatever. But just, okay, like, let's actually start playing. But just, okay, let's actually start playing. Oh, oh, oh, oh man. Now when you say playing, you mean the solo
Starting point is 00:53:52 or do you mean against each other? Yeah, just against each other and stuff. Why would you ruin it like that? Why would you, that's not what it's for. I spent money, I just wanted to, you know. You gotta crash your G.I. Joe's into people eventually, right? You go to the- Yeah, but this is like, hey, I bought a GI Joe
Starting point is 00:54:07 and it looks to be about the same, the right size. I guess I could use it as a hammer to put nails in my wall. You know, when I did go to my friend's house as a kid and I had my toys and he had his and we played, it was not as fun because he was not playing the same way I was playing with my toys to like that because he had like weird ways of do I think I talked about him a while ago, but he would put like a big straight he'd put tape on like Venom's hand and then attach like an axe from Conan to it and then he'd take like
Starting point is 00:54:41 you know like a Transformer that's cool. You think a transformer and then you'd wrap like like tape all around its limbs And then it would just have like these extra limbs with like missiles at the tip and it would just feel like like a tape Toy, and it's just like but I want to I want a spider-man and Hulk right now Look what the fuck is so so former acts better. So I'm an adult I'm an adult and I'm an adult. And I look down at that and I say that that kid was cool as fuck. However, as a person who remembers being a child, that's what's known as playing it
Starting point is 00:55:17 wrong. What you're supposed to do, Willie, what you're supposed to do is you are supposed to go there and you are supposed to tell him, listen, you get these toys and you list out the toys that he will get and then he will place them where you tell him to place them and then you will act out the the scenario and it is his job to read your mind and act out the scenario the way you want him to. Otherwise he's playing wrong. When I played with my brother when we were growing up, he got it. He would get his Leonardo out, I would get my Donatello, and then they'd fight, and then
Starting point is 00:55:56 we'd have a Ninja Turtle battle and then we'd switch over, and then it was like, okay, he has his Galvatron, and I'd get whatever, my Optimus get You know whatever my optimus or something and we just you do it and then you know We just do anyway and then over here exo squad battle and I'm gonna shoot that missile and it's gonna hit you in the eye And it's and it's gonna be fucking rad, you know, but like it was just Anyway, and it's like, you know who can read your mind about the right way to play with your Dragon Ball dolls, willy? sparking zero your mind about the right way to play with your Dragon Ball dolls, Wully? Sparking Zero. Sparking Zero knows what the right way to play with your Dragon Ball dolls is. Other players are getting in the way of my fun. Oh, absolutely. And I'm unplugging the Ethernet because you're
Starting point is 00:56:36 ruining my fun. I'm unplugging. Yeah. No, the shit got wild because the other bit was a bunch of his toys were broken and so he would put the tape to stretch. If the arm broke off, he put the tape and have the arm attached to that or the torso had tape in the middle. Because it was all the tape. Venom with the tape and the axe, okay, Venom can do that. But now it's like everyone has that. Everything is tape when it's broken.
Starting point is 00:57:04 And if you're playing too hard and you break your shit, that's already like, yo, I don't know if I want to give you my shit because what if you break mine? I never, I never got along playing with my brother and sister for this exact reason. I had a real, really strong, let's, let's call it a disagreement between me and my siblings. What is the toy that all kids love at every age? It's a Lego. Of course it's Lego. You build the little thing. And I would just take, I would look at the box and then I would get the instructions out and I would build it. It would be a perfect little spaceship or it'd be a perfect little castle or it'd be a perfect little thing. And invari invariably and I mean invariably like
Starting point is 00:57:45 literally 100 out of 100 times my older brother or older sister would come along after it was done and perfect and good and nice to play with and go oh cool look at this weird part and dismantle it to cannibalize my perfect creations into the fucking the giant cardboard box that all of the Legos went into and then just create new things that were wrong okay leg and they were wrong they were just they didn't have an instruction they were just whatever thing they wanted to build with that yeah yeah no Lego Lego was 100% creativity Lego is chaos world okay Lego you build whatever the fuck you They wanted to build with that yeah, yeah, no Lego Lego was 100% creativity
Starting point is 00:58:25 Bro Lego is Chaos world okay, Lego you build whatever the fuck you just go We you do the instructions once and then in me and then in my admire it for maybe a day show your mom And then it's just parts for the cool shit the robots and the not and the vehicles and the the cool shit the robots and the not and the vehicles and the Cities and whatever the fuck were building and that's all they see they they were playing my Lego was the Lego trunk It was a suitcase and all the pieces were together and you would just fucking they'd mix up and you'd have All of it come together for cool shit and there was like color coordination
Starting point is 00:59:04 Was was barely a thought because mainly it was like okay, but look at the fucking hinge limb though You know and that that that part goes extra fucking cool if it can like bend twice back over Hey, man, I'm just saying that Lord business from the Lego movie is the hero That's what I'm saying to you all oh hero of that film. That's what I'm saying to you all. Oh man, nah dude. Legos, Legos, chaos rules dude. That was great. I remember I got in trouble because... You know what? Let's put this out into the ether. So I'm five years old and I had a bunch of Legos that were built up and they were done and they were completed. It was like a castle and it was like a spaceship and I forget someone else,
Starting point is 00:59:53 right? And then I came home from something and my brother and sister had been playing Legos and they had cannibalized every single thing that I had built into this gigantic mega castle uh-huh and then when I couldn't find the things that I had made and was pointed out that it had been cannibalized in the gigantic mega castle I being five years old went and like just kicked over it. Oh. And just knocked that shit over. God damn it. And I got in trouble. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:31 They destroyed my Legos, but I can't destroy their Legos? This is bullshit, I'm still mad. Well first of all, lashing out like that is just not acceptable. That's not how we express ourselves. We don't kick things and destroy them when we're upset. Don't you fucking gentle-pair me. Okay.
Starting point is 01:00:49 And you know, and second, that castle of everything altogether probably was rad as fuck. Yeah. Listen, some people like Will Ferrell, so then why not just superglue them once you're done, as you build them? What? Because my dad didn't let me have the superglue, because dad was not to be trusted with the superglue, because dad would superglue himself to things. So you would have superglued your LEGO creations? If I had the ability, I absolutely would have.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Oh my god, dude. Fuck that. Oh man, nah. Anyways, anyways, all this to say that you jump online. Budokai Tenkaichi Sparking Zero, whatever it's called, is the super glue for your Dragon Ball dolls. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. And you know what?
Starting point is 01:01:42 When my brother and I did play with LEGO Lego we had our own nomenclature We would be like, okay. Do you have a flat four dotted? No, but I got a pushed up six dotted. All right Well, yeah, cuz you're living in the same house You're on the same page so it would be it would be generally like cooperative and if it was like yo I need that part and it's like nah, but I need it then like we'd have to find a way to you know Figure out who would get it and that usually involved fighting I was about to say oh yeah we because that seems like no I would do like well we were we were rolling around and you know like
Starting point is 01:02:14 basically no it's mine so like a brother fight is like um you're just you're going at it but no face shots right so, you know I've never had any of those. Oh yeah, okay. I've had, my brother was too old, too much older. He was four years older than me, which means any of those would have just stomped me out a second. My brother is three years older than me and I didn't fucking back down.
Starting point is 01:02:37 I lost every one of those fights. Well maybe you should have, maybe you should have realized your fucking shots, man. I lost every single one of those fights. Well maybe you should have realized your fucking shots. I lost every single one of those fights. I got lit up, but I rushed nonetheless. And we just, eeeh! And it was, and further, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Tell me you got one, man. I mean, if my cousin teamed up, you know, and if it went, because I had older cousins That's not fucking no, surely not You know, but that shit was like fucking yeah, what in the one V1 what the fuck am I supposed to do? You know, I got I got stomped out every goddamn time it sucked But hey, and then he got the piece he wanted, you know, but that's that's that's the way it fucking was whatever Eldest gets gets to do what they want second follows
Starting point is 01:03:29 Yeah, so I learned I learned that Physically accosting my brother was not gonna work because he was so much bigger and stronger than me But then when we got a little older I discovered that Telling mom and dad that he's smoking weed in the garage again was way more effective as a threat. Okay, okay, yeah, see, we were too church basement for that. We, you know, no real hidden crimes like that to expose. At the same time though, like, I mean, if you got into a nice, like, there are times where you get into a nice, like there are times where you get into a,
Starting point is 01:04:05 like a nice like sitting position where I'm like, oh, well now I'm sitting on your back and there's nothing you can do. So you have to go like, okay, okay, okay, stop, stop, stop, fine, fine, right? And then you let off and then it's like, oh, and then it's back on and it's like, oh, you fucker, right?
Starting point is 01:04:17 You gave up, but then you didn't give up, you know? Anyways, and the problem of course is that, yeah, only one person could get the piece in the end. So All you playing dragon ball sparking zero with other people. Fuck that they ruin it You know what? I think you I don't know if you were intending to do so, but you actually just made like an incredible incredible Perfect analogy for it Because that one piece that only one person can have is the good camera spot. It's is that spot with the good camera where you're in the
Starting point is 01:04:54 foreground. Well if you're if you're playing double split screen you both have that on your respective sides because it's not the it's not oh I'm talking about the old one it was just straight up so to the enders camera okay okay yeah that's horseshit that's complete horseshit fight for the camera loser anyway and and and I would say the other bit too and this also leads into it is like flying around and having your character kind of in third person also felt more like video game playing as Goku than like side view, you know, fighting game rules being put on these characters type of thing, you know?
Starting point is 01:05:37 Hell yeah, I just saw on Twitter, cannibalizing someone else's Lego is fucked up. Thanks buddy. It is. Don't cannibalize your siblings leg. Oh, don't don't steal it If and from their shit like talk about it if someone if you built a thing and then I came back and it was and I just fucking took it apart that sucks that does suck. Absolutely Take it over the castle's crazy Hey, I listen listen. I just want to say that Arthur was totally right to punch his sister in the fucking face.
Starting point is 01:06:11 DW is a stupid little brat. He punched DW? Oh, you don't know this? What happened? Okay, so this is the best episode of Arthur ever. So Arthur is building a fuck, is it a toy plane. It's a toy plane And he it's like a model. It's not a toy. It's a model and He spends a lot of time building it and he builds it and it's gorgeous
Starting point is 01:06:34 And he looks at dw he says don't go into my room and also don't Touch it Do not touch that so dw DW goes into his room, picks up the model airplane, and throws it out the window. Oh my God. And it just smashes to bits on the ground. Okay?
Starting point is 01:06:58 So he meets her outside and just starts screaming, I told you not to touch it. And she says to him, you didn't even build it right, it won't even fly. And he just like, that's where the fist comes from. And he goes, I told you not to touch it. And then they kind of cut away, but it's very obvious. Like he rocks her.
Starting point is 01:07:27 Yeah, no, Galactica Phantom. Just like he won't. And then like his parents get him in trouble. Sorry, his parents, you punish him because you can't beat up your little sister. But like sometimes siblings just do like insane, outrageous shit that just, like violence is inevitable it's it's unavoidable oh my god Jesus Christ yeah okay I understood that's wild like
Starting point is 01:07:58 you'll never you'll never feel the urge to hit anyone in your life like the person you have lived with from the day they were born and you're like right next to each other in age just I don't know if you've ever had the like like like pool noodle fight or like pillow fight I've had the pool noodle fight get out of where the hit is a little too real If the noodles long enough and you Oh the fun has stopped and now I'm fucking beating you with a weapon this pillow is now a weapon and like all The stuffing has dropped to the bottom and like gotten hardened
Starting point is 01:08:42 It's gotten dense and I've tied it and I'm holding onto it and it's all cloth up here and this part is just all stuffing and we're going in. You've turned a pillow into a mace is what happens because you get fucking, you get your bell rung when they swing it a little bit too hard and you're like what the fuck, I thought we were playing. Oh, it's real now, is it?
Starting point is 01:09:04 Okay, here we go yeah man this just makes me think of because like uh you know the boy's gonna grow up right and one of the conversations that me and page had when we were watching the mcmahon documentary it's like do you think this will be one of those boys that likes wrestling. Because wrestling with kids? Oh, that's a good time. But then I remember, I remember the kids from my high school that couldn't watch wrestling. I'm sure you remember them. Because if they watched wrestling, they'd watch Monday Night Raw, and then they would come in on Tuesday, and it would be a fucking countdown to first period by the time they got in a fight like the energy in them was they could not maintain it and they would have to fight somebody
Starting point is 01:09:55 within like half an hour arriving at school yeah no a to activated so obviously the like little brother mode means I got really good at like selling the moves and taking them and He sucked it Selling is so important for the children Yeah If the children are yeah wrestling and none of them know how to sell Then the aggro children are gonna just escalate it and escalate it and escalate it until they see someone sell But they're not selling you actually just dropped Jimmy on his head Jimmy's dead now
Starting point is 01:10:31 He because Jimmy wouldn't sell and I think part of it probably was also It's a lot harder to sell a chokeslam when you're shorter than the person admittedly You know that and like and or like the knee to the stomach bend over then set up the DDT or so But I got really good at selling and that was that was basically my job but No, no, but no, but I'd say but like then you know And then you then you get good at like your drop kicks and your your spears and all those things you figure out What works and what doesn't but there absolutely?
Starting point is 01:11:07 You figure out what works and what doesn't but there absolutely was like that kid that was in French class who? like try to do a play stunner and Yeah, that's not a move rack some dude fuck around with if you don't know how to do it, man. I Had a friend of mine that I would we just hang it was in grade six and seven I'd go over his house and we play video games, right and I grade six and seven, I'd go over his house and we'd play video games, right? And I could not go to his house, sorry, I chose to never go to his house on a Tuesday or a Friday. Because those were the days after
Starting point is 01:11:37 Raw and SmackDown would air. And what would happen is, is I would go over there in like the late afternoon, early evening, and like have dinner with the family or whatever. Like I went over the fair really regularly. And the kids, his younger brothers, who were like seven and nine, I think, would, they couldn't stay up to watch Raw on SmackDown. They had to, they had to watch it on VHS.
Starting point is 01:12:01 So they would get home from school and immediately watch it. Like the instant they came in the door. Okay. Okay. I caught it. Yeah. I didn't want to be there when his little brothers watch that shit because I was like dead certain that I would get killed or like witness a murder or whatever. These kids could, like they would go feral every single time they watched wrestling, they would go crazy. And the mom and dad were never able to calm them down, but also let them watch wrestling twice a week.
Starting point is 01:12:35 Like, you know, what the fuck are you doing? Yeah, no, the kids that didn't get it, that didn't understand that part of it, the sell bid and so on, that's a problem. Obviously there's literally been cases of kids that died and they had to have the lock on the stand explaining how wrestling moves work. That's like you can't do these wrestling moves at home if you're not a good worker. If you don't know how, yes.
Starting point is 01:13:02 You need to know how to sell and you need to know the difference between a work and a shoot. Therefore. If you're doing shoot wrestling at home and you're a child, you don't know what you're doing. Brock Lesnar is a danger to the children. Ahmed Johnson is a danger to the children because they don't know how to sell. Ahmed Johnson is a danger to everyone on the roster when he was working.
Starting point is 01:13:21 Working stiff puts the kids in danger. God damn it Listen, I don't want any eight-year-old giving each other potatoes out here, okay? That'll bring down too much playground botchamania come on All right anyway, so yeah, that's that's the problem, but that's what's good about Sparking Zero. That's, uh, nailed it. It's not fake, it's predetermined. I mean, that point where you legally have to sidestep to call it enter.
Starting point is 01:14:01 No, no, no, Sparking Zero isn't fake, it's predetermined. Ah, yes, yes, yes, right, of course. You know go who's gonna win man And then well the other part of it, too Is kind of going like yeah, who the fuck is that is that's what what the fuck is that some super shit? And it's like nah, that's from that one movie, and you're like oh god Like there's a dude on that roster that I only recognize because I saw him in a Creed AMV, the what if Creed music video to the fucking,
Starting point is 01:14:37 Barnauk or whatever his fucking name, I don't know who that guy is. Well, Barnauk is Goku's dad, so yes, you would. No, not the other ones. You're probably Evil You're probably evil go to the guy who's got I'm thinking to the guy with with Orange hair and he's green Bojack oh Jack Jack. Okay. Okay. Okay, right? Cuz yeah, like there's evil Goku right from you know, and it's just like Turtles is there you're like
Starting point is 01:15:01 There's Evil Goku, right? From, you know, and it just like, Turtles is there. You're like, what? Which movie was that? That's the fucking fruit of the tree of might or some shit. Tree of Might, Tree of Magic, and Might and Magic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's, yeah, that's always just the wildest man. Like, ah, Super's crazy, they're nuts.
Starting point is 01:15:20 It's like, that was from the Jinenbo second fucking, you yo listen man, like this is the thing the difference between the sparking zero and That hunter hunter game if you're looking at your roster and you go man Who the fuck is this loser if that's complementary or derogative? Depends on if your fucking roster is three digits, right? Yes on if your fucking roster is three digits. Right, yes. You know what, if you have a double digit roster that's under 51 and you go who the fuck is this? Boo.
Starting point is 01:15:57 If it's 52 and up, who the fuck is that? Sansan? What, oh, I don't know, whatever. They wasted a slot on Baby D is not a thing you say when there's 187 other choices Yeah Hit the regard. I don't know who the fuck that is But I got my 25 go as as as Zila as Zila like a week. I'd literally like it's like it's like a
Starting point is 01:16:23 Colored thing with like the extra tentacles sticking out anyway I don't I don't even know I don't even know um But you but I'll tell you what man what what what you pop off at is when you see like hey look There's a yamcha outfit, and it's the original Dragon Ball yamcha outfit Your barefoot Goku, and you've got your your Yeah, like you had your OBI and shit like that. Oh,, the Goku got his legs fucked up. That's that's always fun. You know, you're um What the fuck Jackie Chun, you know Anyways
Starting point is 01:16:59 So yeah, there's there there there was some Dragon Ball sparking zero Getting to find a game games gonna drop for that little later this week Is that a getting to fighting games I? Played it on a Saturday is it Alright you let the let them this I mean Reggie couldn't pretend for like five seconds to. Oh couldn't even, couldn't even just fucking smile. Like he's literally like, yo are you playing the right intro right now?
Starting point is 01:17:37 Like are we? Like hey! Shhh! Shut the fuck up! You be quiet! They'll hear you. There's a genre of game that I can't, I don't know how to describe it,
Starting point is 01:17:51 and I don't know how I would define it, but I feel like it's real, and I wanna call it like a doll game, where like, yeah, like a wildly disproportionate amount of effort is I want him to look the way he looks and I want him to be perfect And I want him to do things that I want like Space Marine 2 is a little bit of a doll game Gundam breaker the Gundam breaker franchise are doll games. You are making a gun plaw There is also a video game in there, but fuck off. You're making a gun plaw. You
Starting point is 01:18:26 know, these are absolutely your dress up and fucking a million percent. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Well, anyways, so there's some of that. Also, a bit late to the party audit, but hey, since I killed the the mother of fingers in Shadow of the Earth tree, she she's gross. She gives a staff that lets you cast incantations and sorceries. It's not the best, but it does both so sick. So I actually fucking took a larval tier back and I rebuilt my character and I now have access to both. And this is pretty much the first time since Space Game at all that I've been able to do
Starting point is 01:19:16 anything in. Because I literally did not play that game with faith. Anything, you know? So there's some cool ones in know. So, um. There's some cool. There's some cool ones in there, yeah, yeah. And I threw on, you know, the golden vow, right? You just get a nice little buff before you get into a fight. Like the vines, like the briars, you know, kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:19:43 There, there are, I went down and watched like a fucking two and a half hour long video over on Rusty's channel if you want to go look at it Rusty is insane and will just rank like every single fucking spell in the entire game so those videos are hours long. And he had one where he compared incantations to sorceries. And the overall result is that they all have their fucking, they both have their big winners. Like they both have one like spells that are just far and away. This will carry you the whole game. But the main takeaway is that a wildly disproportionate amount of the intelligence ones are just blue projectile of various sizes, states, directions, et cetera.
Starting point is 01:20:38 That makes up like 80% of the entire casting tree is I fired a blue. Make a blue, yes, thing appear in the world and do something to it versus. And it's also overwhelmingly like one type of damage, which is magic. No, it is the variety of like getting like buffs to yourself for, you know, like yeah, different types of resistances, different types.
Starting point is 01:21:02 I wanna throw rocks, I wanna throw lightning, I wanna throw fire, I wanna throw holy. of resistances different types. I want to throw rocks. I want to throw lightning I want to throw a fire. I want to throw a holy that's for damage type dragon barfing and arcade Well arcane, I guess is the other bit but like yeah I think hurting yourself to set to do other types of like like better spell casting besides charging You know you get much better. I think the one that Really puts it over though is flame cleanse me Which you don't have a reason to use that anymore at the point you're in the game but like flame cleanse me needs like ten faith and
Starting point is 01:21:33 It just is like the cheapest spell the entire game and it just cures you of poison or rot It's all that that's laws of regression, right? Regression just beats that like you I kept I kept that one on my belt the entire time because the moment anything you don't want is on you, chunk and then you're healed. So, yeah, you definitely get better game variety out of it. And so- Yeah, that requires 37 intelligence.
Starting point is 01:22:01 Okay, okay. So in the end, yeah. So, now that I've kind of just mixing and matching cuz I'm like, look, I've played 98% of this game so far. Just, you've seen almost all of them and uh you know, just tossing int and and that stuff out. I've figured out what I like the most and what's the funnest to do. So, yeah, just even though the top end numbers are lower, the variety is is much nicer and that's also why I went with the two
Starting point is 01:22:28 twin swords and stuff I'm just like let's just fuck around with the talisman of beasts from Demon's Souls is back I don't know if you remember that that was the fine that was the the highest end catalyst you could get in Demon's Souls that lets you do both it lets you do both. It lets you do both. Right, yes, yes, yes. And it's like, it wasn't the strongest option, but being able to do whatever is crazy good. Just don't worry about calculating the math on whether your 50% scaling on this is going to top out against this other thing because you're now cutting your scaling into two or three different numbers. Oh yeah, the scaling for all that shit in Elden Ring is actually super confusing.
Starting point is 01:23:16 Like especially on intelligence where like each breakpoint is better for different staffs. And you'll see the overall sorcery scaling number go up, but the letter is worse, or other way around, rather. So you'll see the dual talisman staff have a higher scaling number, but then this one that's dedicated will be S, whereas that's a B, and you're like. Hey, to then this one that's dedicated will be S, whereas that's a B in your lake. Hey, to anyone who plays Demon's Souls, Dark Souls, Bloodborne, or Elden Ring,
Starting point is 01:23:51 I should let you guys know that the letter grading system for your weapons are suggestions as to how they may perform. They have often no relation to reality at all Well, this has a but this is s that means the s scales better. No I know stupid I like didn't know until just now that like Dex increases your Castings pasting speed in the, yeah. I thought that was tied to int.
Starting point is 01:24:29 You think that's stupid? You know the Rattigan's Icon Talisman that makes you cast faster? Uh-huh. You know how that works? It gives you 20 phantom dexterity. It's not just for the cast it just gives you so if you're so if you have capped dexterity it doesn't do anything Why?
Starting point is 01:24:53 This is the shit that gets really wild and confusing because it's like why are we still doing? Dark Souls 2 adaptability like I thought we learned that lesson a adaptability. Like I thought we learned that lesson a bajillion years ago and here we are in the latest content and we're still doing that. If it makes you feel any better, you need to put like 50 points of decks to even notice a difference. Man. Like it's incredibly minor. It's so minor that I question its inclusion at all. I question its inclusion at all. Like when you have to put stuff into an unrelated thing entirely to benefit a thing that's... Gah! Or splitting a basic function into two things, right?
Starting point is 01:25:37 I mean, I guess, yeah, whatever. I don't know. I'm just like... Yeah. Don't worry, man. The next game, the stats will all be really good and simple and easy. No they won't. Your role is determined by your weight and what's on you, but your iframes are determined by a completely separate fucking clown shoes number over here. Wooly, it really does say a lot.
Starting point is 01:26:02 I think I mentioned this last week. The Souls games are fascinating because they're the most popular video games around right now and they're made exclusively by people who don't play them at all. So like every time you run into something, you're like, well, why would you do do this and it's because their interaction with the game is a spreadsheet? I feel like it's a case of if it ain't broke then why fix it and it's like it's been broken for a decade It's it's broke. You just don't feel it because you don't you don't actually do it No, like player will talk to the NPC and then sit down at the bonfire And then the NPC will update to the new how come how come it took so many games to get back to?
Starting point is 01:26:48 Leveling up at the bonfire. Why do I always have to go back to town and deal with the loading time? It's like well because the loading time doesn't exist for Miyazaki designing the game and not actually seeing the loading time at all Because he's not playing blood-borne at all because he's not playing Bloodborne. Bloodborne was made by people not playing their own game. That's so fucking crazy. And here we are, like lessons just not learned over, like Elden Ring is what, is that Demon Soul seven? Demon one, two, 3, Bloodborne 6. Demon Soul 6.
Starting point is 01:27:31 Demon Soul 6. It's Demon Soul 6, yeah. I'm not counting Sekiro. Sekiro is a different beast. Yeah. I mean, Yakuza reinvented itself like three times, right, in the span of like- Oh, we've got time to talk about that again today. Of fucking beginning to 6, at least, right? In the span of like- Oh, we've got time to talk about that again today.
Starting point is 01:27:46 Of fucking beginning to six at least, right? Anyways, whatever. So yeah, no, no, that's it. Other really cool thing. Going up to that little village. Found a... Hey, that little village that has- Little tree.
Starting point is 01:28:06 Um... Has the... It's always great when you play a game that has any kind of open world segment, and you find the most important place that has ever been. And like, it's like, hey, there's music playing. It's not music in game. It's music around this area. It's diegetic. And there's a spell here. Take a look at it. Walk up that mountain. Take a look at that. Anything else? No, that's it. Cool. Fucking context moment. Really, really interesting thought there. And yeah, yeah. one of those bits where you're like,
Starting point is 01:28:45 okay, so what we're doing in two items is recontextualizing, reframing, and reintroducing exactly what this conflict is about and why. Really solid, very cool there. That's a classic moment of like, ooh, Dark Souls item lore storytelling that I thought was great. This is the spot.
Starting point is 01:29:09 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. And it's right next to that other spot, the weird spot that happens to be really suspiciously close by. So it's really close to this spot. I still have a lot of unanswered questions for sure, but at the very least, yeah, little America's village. You really get like, like I, Ertrich is the first of any of the souls or anything that
Starting point is 01:29:36 I finished in which I was like, that was understandable and clear and I got most of the things I needed to know I don't really have a big reason to like search out Like YouTube or or wiki articles or whatever like the general thrust of like oh that led to this led to that led to that Like you go to the jar shit and then you go to the village and like 99% of the fucking plot of the world just Falls into place. Yeah, and I almost I almost feel like while maybe George RR Or someone else is like looking over the lore and they're looking at these moments and going This is implied but it's a it's still a little vague and then they go. Okay drop a ghost right there And then and the ghosts are there to just like,
Starting point is 01:30:27 just in case you were not following the right thing, you know? Like, okay, like at this point, like, Merica's story is pretty much told for you in game, like the remainder is gonna be primarily Mickela stuff, and it's like, okay, she's the worst. The character you never get to interact with once in the entire base game.
Starting point is 01:30:48 What was her deal? Oh, her deal was that she was awful. A huge hypocrite. A huge hypocrite. Like, the depths of hypocrisy become hilarious because you're like, these fucking horn scent, I'm gonna get rid of all of them. I never have oh no my kids Oh, so that's interesting like oh
Starting point is 01:31:11 You mean her okay, okay, okay Yeah, right right oh no my kids are horn sent into the sewers with them those evil horn sent That's like oh Yeah, then like some of the other bits of the time, which I guess I don't know if we're ever going to find out exactly the nature of like how the horn sense started going after the shamans and you know, how the appears to be just like endemic racial boyard deification. Right.
Starting point is 01:31:43 It appears to just be the shamans worked really particularly well for their horrific jar nonsense. And so they became like the Moai heads of that civilization, except they were people. And then the other bit was that it's like, okay, well, there's two states here. There's the successful Alexander, awesome warrior jar, what a badass. And then there's the, uh-oh, it wasn't done yet, put it back in. What if the meat was alive? You're walking ravioli. Yeah, those jars are different.
Starting point is 01:32:17 The jars you meet in Shadow of the Urchery are substantially different. It's not the jar sentient talking to you. There's the goop inside that is just flailing and screaming. It's like there's either the same process gone wrong or two different processes. Well, America's, the jars you run into Elden Ring are exclusively, they're not like civilians that just got chopped up for ritual purposes they're all here or your great yeah the great ones those who are worthy and uh or but it's here it's just like hey yo you're a shaman get to get in the fucking pot here's
Starting point is 01:32:58 a tooth whip um yeah anyway so uh probably um it seems like maybe two sessions or so of that left. So gonna be- It depends. We'll see. We'll see. It depends on like one very major factor. Okay. Well, as much as I'm nearby and I'm looking forward to getting it over, I don't want to...
Starting point is 01:33:23 I've been taking my time with the lore Going through this and I want to not feel rushed towards the end either. So Yeah, that'll can I got I what when I when I beat that DLC I got to it in the worst possible condition which was Like I think was two three hours in when I hit the final boss and then then got two, three hours in when I hit the final boss and then got stomped out like nothing else and was like, I can either call it a day and come back tomorrow or I can just lock the fuck in right now. And I chose the latter, but that can be that that could be a whole day. When you say two, three, two, three hours in in you mean to the last session so the
Starting point is 01:34:05 last session I was do I got to I started at like the final area and like by the time I got to the boss I was I was like multiple hours into a stream and like the decision was then do I lock in and go or do I come back fresh? Well, you know, there's six sets of eyes on the couch over here, so it's not just my endurance as well, right? Did you say six? That's the joke based on the old LP. Oh, I know, I know. But there's me and there's Reggie and we both get tired. So sometimes it's like, I'm looking at it and it's like,
Starting point is 01:34:47 okay, I'm starting to figure this boss out. And it's like 8 PM or 8.30 and I'm like, we've been going for five. Just put a blanket over him. But it's also, but I'm also like, I know my ability to do a high skill functioning requirement right now is much worse than if this were fresh. So like it's it's one of those fun things that really only
Starting point is 01:35:10 happens when you're doing this on camera because like otherwise you would just go to your own pace and your own enjoyment right but like you can lean forward to about a 10 degree angle and put your elbows on your knees and that's gonna help for an hour but there's only so much you can lock in for so long I mean I'll say that my part of the experience for this game for me in let's playing it is that every one of the hardest bosses has been at the end of a long endurance stream? Of course like and then you start next session and you're like 20 minutes Done, which is just not the same as normal pacing when you're doing it for yourself. You know, it's it's yeah
Starting point is 01:35:56 It's always a like oh With the except I literally can't go to bed until I beat you. Come on. Anyways, so that's all going to continue along with Phoenix Wright this week over on Woolly Versus on Twitch and on YouTube. Have you put your foot into any more metaphors? No. I was waiting to take care of some other stuff.
Starting point is 01:36:32 Oh, I also, just before you jump in there real quick, want to give a shout out to an awesome channel. I've checked out... This is kind of what I was sort of looking for, but I've been going hard on Balotro as always in working on, I don't know if I want to like platinum trophy it or whatever. I don't know if I want to get everything, everything, but I certainly want to get as much as I can scrape and I want to get my not a number exponent infinity. You want to prove your love to Balotro.
Starting point is 01:37:05 Balotro University is a channel and on it there's a dude who talks about Balotro and optimizing your strats. It's like little things where I'm like, I've been getting pretty far just on my own assumptions about math and poker and stuff, but here we got data, numbers, and shit that's really useful. And I was like, oh my God, really? I would skip to get a negative joker every single time. I would skip to get a double joker,
Starting point is 01:37:40 a double thing every single time. Every time. Every time. Turns time, every time. Turns out it's not the best move. I don't care. I know. I want a negative joke. I know. And my heart wants it and it's gonna be very, and I'm like, I kind of, I'm like, I hear you
Starting point is 01:37:53 and I'm still doing it. But you lose out, you lose out not on just the money, but the trip to the shop. Exactly. And the trip to the shop. An extra trip to the shop. You can get you so much more. Each shop visit is so great. And da da da da da da da da, right?
Starting point is 01:38:07 Oh, like, what's the deal with fucking straights? They, you net so few, but then they scale. They can't dance as well. They just got no flavor. They just got no flavor. Well, it's harder to actually build a straight hand, therefore it scales. Flush is a million times more viable. Easier, but that's why it scales worse when you level it up. Yeah, but unless you get the Joker that is like skip spots in the straight.
Starting point is 01:38:45 At that point, ooh, you're cooking with that. But there's other things like that too, like where if you're falling into... There's temptations that you're kind of chasing that don't always work out. Chasing after full houses is not actually... Full house is tough. I tried to do a full house stacked run and I kept running into the thing where it's like, I'm doing like four discards and three hands. I didn't get one full house. That's the problem, right?
Starting point is 01:39:10 And the scaling of the points doesn't make it viable in the long run. So you're holding a two pair, and you're like, yeah, but I can spend two discards to get that full house, and you don't fucking get it. You're not gonna get it. You don't get it, asshole. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:24 Like my best run I've ever done in ballot row was with pair. Oh really you need to learn about the high card, baby High card like high card Heart key high card is you've removed poker from the equation entirely and you're now playing the bilateral metagame from the equation entirely, and you're now playing the Boletro metagame exclusively. But it goes hand in hand with you get, you level up your high card and find a consistent way to do so, you get economy online so that you can build some money up, and then.
Starting point is 01:39:55 You cannot use the term, get your economy online with Boletro. You absolutely can and should. Use the term get your economy online You have to get economy online or your build is fucked I'm telling you it's so important. It's so important You gotta get a balance of chips and mulch right X mulch you can you can deal with after, you can change things up, but you got to get some early chips, really important, and then you get some econ online, and then you're cooking. And what you want to do is while you're leveling up that high card, you start working on either a queen, you start getting a queen or a king perhaps into a silver status or a steel card status so that it'll multiply, right?
Starting point is 01:40:49 It'll ex-mult your hand, your high card. And then you put a fucking red sticker on that shit and then it'll do it twice so then it'll 1.5, 1.5 and then you start turning other cards into that and then it starts multiplying the 1.5, one, one, one, da, da, da, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and then you find the joker that makes it so that every queen held in your hand
Starting point is 01:41:10 is a plus 13 to your mult, or every king, baron, every king held in your hand is another 1.5, and then it starts just going fucking crazy. You know? And then you take that, and you're like, hold on a minute, we're not done. Get the face card that makes it so that every hand held every every card held in hand ability plays twice and then And you just fucking when you go and like high card is the is and you know, I'm telling you dude high card strats
Starting point is 01:41:40 Unstoppable, right? But you got up you got to set yourself up up to position the right Joker when it drops, you know? You can just fuck it, and then you get a spectral card, you bolt... Anyway, whatever. The point is that Ballotro University, good shit if you're out there trying to optimize and learn about how to get your builds. And yeah, don't sleep. I'm hearing some good ballad. Don't sleep on econ, don't do it. If you're trying to build gold steak especially, right? The highest shits and everything. Okay, so. You know, poker is a metaphor for life in some ways.
Starting point is 01:42:25 For life. You gotta know when to hold them, know when to fold them, know when to walk away, and know when to change your archetype. All the time. There's, so I'm, I've now put my,
Starting point is 01:42:44 I'm up to the knee in metaphor. I'm in there. I am in 8-12. No, 7-12? Am I in August or? No, I'm in August. I'm in August 12th. And I'm on town number three, right? And there's a lot going on in that game. So I talked about it pretty far at length last week,
Starting point is 01:43:16 so I'm not gonna try and overdo it and say a lot of the same things. Things of note that are different, the game genuinely seems built for you as long as you do every dungeon in one day, you are going to have no problem keeping up with all of your links. Just like all P games so far. P34 at least once I've played I'll know it's way easier Okay
Starting point is 01:43:46 And the reason why it's way easier is that the mental stack on managing your shit is so much lower Because every time you hang out with someone the bond increases There's no there's no build up and maybe maybe I'll hang out Maria and we'll level up the bond elsewhere Like can you hang out with the party member? You will level it up. So time is less important in the sense that you're not as worried about spending time incorrectly and you haven't done that double task daytime stuff yet,
Starting point is 01:44:18 but beating a thing in one day still nets you with, I guess, a two week period of like, okay, now you're done. Go focus on whatever the fuck you wanna focus on. And depends on what order you do it, right? If you bang out your story dungeon instantaneously, you have that two week period immediately, whereas instead you could be, I usually leave, depending on where I'm at,
Starting point is 01:44:43 either do the dungeon on the first day or I do it on the last day, depending on where I'm at, I either do the dungeon on the first day or I do it on the last day, depending on what's actually available. But for example, in the third town, I hung out with my friends and leveled up my stats, et cetera, on the like, because there's certain activities that are much better for leveling up your stats than others. Debating other candidates in the town square is the most cost-effective time for stats thing, right? So I just did all of that, and then the first day that there was nothing unique left to do, I went and did the dungeon
Starting point is 01:45:20 in one shot. Soterios Johnson Okay. Is there stuff like getting your your wheatgrass juice on Fridays to get your your extra boost or go in a soup the burger place that's just like this is the most efficient way. There is. You should be doing it. So every couple of days you can take a shower and you know that'll give you a hundred XP flat. Every Sunday or Idols day you could take a shit and it will increase your luck by one so every single day of the month ending in why as our ending in five go take a shit that's like 30 free levels is there the online function to see what
Starting point is 01:46:00 other people are doing yes I have not used it. I have very little need for it. The other thing is that, so I was stressing about time spent because you travel. Travel time from like, oh, I want to go to the tower, right? The tower is three days from town. So that is three days and three nights away from town. But you can still do your bonds with your party on the Gauntlet Runner. Oh, in transit? Like in transit.
Starting point is 01:46:34 Okay, nice. And in transit, you can level up your stats just as efficiently as you can anywhere else. Is it like physically moving along the dot and then while that's happening, you're on the deck? Oh yeah, absolutely. And when you go out onto the deck and do your bond link out there the fucking scenery is going past you As you're having a conversation on the day you If you beat the dungeon, can you actually just fast-forward time to get to the next point?
Starting point is 01:46:57 No, no Not that you necessarily want to but yeah, you would definitely not want to The other thing is that They have so they've done that this is the the Essentially persona seven but of modern persona. It's like persona four percent six, whatever you want to call it Where you know you have your deadline you have your dungeon, right? And then on the final day, hope you did the dungeon, hope you beat it, or else game over. They start to vary up how that system works.
Starting point is 01:47:40 One of the earlier dungeons has a completely different format than that Like it does it does not work the same at all Like there is still a deadline and you still have to do something by that deadline But it is not a long-term dungeon crawl Okay The objectives are, they're just, they're remixing how or what the objectives are. The objectives are totally different and it is not a dungeon crawl. It's just straight up, it is a completely different task. And it's super interesting. So for example, usually-
Starting point is 01:48:23 Is it hanging on usually hot spring and peek over the wall. No, no, it's like a task for the storyline and it will involve combat, but it is not a crawl. So like the for example, like the the first big dungeon that you see in the demo, if you finish it, it took me like four hours. This thing took me 45 minutes because I steamrolled it. Okay. I like I was putting it off putting off my oh hope I don't have to take multiple trips and I like I fucking stomped it out It was no trouble at all. Okay
Starting point is 01:48:57 Fridays good the game also has It's doing something like really really impressive with the way experience is calculated, which is not something that's like super dramatic usually. But like think about, you know, any of your main persona games, like, you know, I left Ryuji on the bench for a while. Is he still, oh God, he's 25 levels behind. Oh yeah, we talked about this, the points. Right? The, yeah. As you upgrade your bond, if you get your character,
Starting point is 01:49:29 if you get a party member to upgrade to bond level six, it's just like gains normal experience in the back. Out of the party. But that's combined with, when you're running around, so one of the, there's towers on the map that are like super, super, they're the toughest like optional dungeons. And I went in there and was getting stomped out, like it was actually extremely difficult
Starting point is 01:49:54 right up until I hit the level where I started to auto kill everything. And as soon as you start to auto kill everything, the experience you receive from them drops in half. And the level gain is exponential. So basically, you hit like the point where nothing is a challenge to you, it becomes really hard to keep leveling a lot after that. Okay. Like you can eke out like one or two, but like the scale of what you're actually doing and the speed at which you're doing it just starts to slow you down so that you're,
Starting point is 01:50:32 the way that it has worked is since I grinded a good deal on the demo, when I go into a dungeon, the optional dungeons, I am one hit killing on the field all the little baby bitch enemies that are there to use MP. All the tougher enemies in there are real fights that are difficult and bosses have all been difficult. And that also happens with all the major story dungeons where the trash is dealt with like trash anything that would be a challenge no matter what level you have to fight and is still a challenge and the bosses have all been tough because they've scaled it correctly.
Starting point is 01:51:17 And I spent like an hour and a half two hours grinding out fucking points on stream the other night until like I couldn't go any further Like it's really really really well built. Okay, so so and also the archetype system fucking rules man Oh, you mentioned last time that it's like okay you can basically get rare candy to feed your team with by maxing out the the the excess and You can still use you can still do that on trash mobs or whatever, but anything plot related is always going to scale with you and be a relative challenge. Well, it'll just be tweaked a certain way.
Starting point is 01:51:53 Okay. Now, my recollection of enemies scaling their strength with you in RPGs over the years has been people telling me how much they hate that. No, nothing scales with you. Your rate of growth, once it hits the recommended level, slows down dramatically. Oh. Is the way it works. There's a cap on the benefits.
Starting point is 01:52:18 So like, I'll take the last section. So the last section, I'm gonna assume the intended high level is level 36. The instant I hit level 35 and started auto killing all the enemies, my rate of experience growth got cut in half and the amount of experience it took to get to the next level increased by like 30%. So now all of a sudden it would take me more than twice as long to get to the next one. And it would take me more than even that to get to the one after because of the way they all scale between the areas. So like I ended up at the end of that getting to 37. And it's like if I would have had to spend
Starting point is 01:53:01 like four more hours to get to 38 in that area because of the way that the fucking math works out. MMO leveling. Kind of, a little bit. The other thing is that because of that, party members catch up to you really fast. So like I actually got a party member at a higher level than me. I was 21 and they were 22. And now everyone's 22.
Starting point is 01:53:28 Sorry, now everyone's the same level. Just because of the way that the math ended up working out on it. The other thing, and this is a tip for you when you eventually get there, is that people not in your party don't get the same rate of experience, right? Unless you put their bond up, right? If you unlock the thing where they get the same amount of experience, they get the same amount of experience as if they were in your active party, right? Well, they also gain the same amount of archetype experience, which means if you put them on a maxed archetype in the background and never use them
Starting point is 01:54:06 They will also start to generate archetype rare candies in the background. Oh shit So you have the potential to eventually have? Seven party members just generating archetype XP for an eighth Okay simultaneously and then anyone new is just right in there So that's that's how that's how because everyone starts their archetype at a very low level But that's how it works is like okay all of you guys are strong and good now You're all gonna just be put on the back burner for like an hour And we're gonna dump everybody's XP into this person until they're caught up party size and
Starting point is 01:54:42 let limit the Until they're caught up party size and let limit the So the party size is for And the game has a mechanical as far as uh, I Believe one of each main archetype because there's there's like nobody starts as merchants for example You get I know you get one of every race, but I don't know who they are because there's like nobody starts as merchant for example. I know you get one of every race, but I don't know who they are. I believe the final party size is eight, like the whole gang.
Starting point is 01:55:14 To get seven plus you and then the pilot is a different guy. The game has a bit of a, I don't know what to call this. I would call this a menu spoiler. You unlock the ability from, you meant more, right? The Igor equivalent? I don't think so. Okay, well, there's a guy who gives you the ability to see what everyone's unlock is gonna be ahead of time.
Starting point is 01:55:43 So you can decide whether or not you just wanna spend time with them. And one of them has a feature that shows you that it will be a four man system with four people in reserve that you can swap into the fight during the fight. So it is like Final Fantasy X. Yeah, pull them in right away. But with the whole gang So you're gonna be able to cover like every fucking base by the end of that game
Starting point is 01:56:15 Also, like if a build is or if a fight is like if you come in unprepared or whatever Just this doesn't work for shit. You can just easily swap them in Which is, this doesn't work for shit. You can just easily. Swap them in. Okay, cool. Also, man, you spend a crazy amount of time in that game before getting your fourth party member. Like, like you are running a three man group
Starting point is 01:56:38 for a crazy long period of time. And then you get the fourth one and you're like now the gameplay has really unlocked. I'm trying to remember but like wasn't there like a huge gap between like when Ken joins in P3 or was that what am I thinking? I feel like there's... No you kind of got somebody new every like six weeks in P3. I feel like there was one character that took a really long time. In P4 you get the party of four by the end of the first dungeon. Yeah, and then you're just kind of...
Starting point is 01:57:15 Anyway, there's a period I feel like that pacing felt interrupted in one of the earlier games. But anyway, yeah, okay. Yeah, no, you go a crazy long time without having a fourth person. And then you go an equally long time between getting a fifth person, which I still don't have. As for the story, man, it is, it's super cool. I don't really have anything to say about it other than like they're, they like keep giving you the little bits and pieces of the weird meta plot. Um, but the core plot, I have no ability to foresee anything that is going to happen. Like every
Starting point is 01:58:00 of every like big story event has not gone the way that I would have expected. Okay. Like consistently. It is totally fascinating and exciting. It's awesome. Yeah, I guess like, I don't know if it has anything to do with it, but I imagine like you don't have to kind of be shackled to the idea of returning
Starting point is 01:58:21 to a high school, you know, and how things. Oh, you're all over the place. Like, it's a road trip. Anything can happen anywhere at any time for any reason. Yeah, they also do like, they also have like landmarks on the map. So during your travel, they'll just take you to a big JPEG of a pretty place and talk to you about the setting. Like straight up, like, you want to visit the world's largest ball of yarn?
Starting point is 01:58:46 Yes I do. I do want to. Let's all talk about it. Nice. That game's incredible. That game's awesome. It's fucking... I have one complaint actually. And it's not that, it's very much not a complaint that I would have thought. The soundtrack is hit or miss. Oh no, the Latin or the Esperanto is getting... No, the Esperanto shit is all incredible. But like the day to day background of the Social Link music,
Starting point is 01:59:26 wandering around certain locations, it's kind of normal. Okay. Like a lot of it is like kind of well produced but fairly standard. It has not been blessed with Lotus Juice? No, like the actual, like in dungeons, in fights in the the fucking thick of it It is it's some of the best Shoji Meguro has ever made
Starting point is 01:59:50 But in terms of like going to town or just talking with people It's very low-key and a lot of it is like just very Kind of fades in the background Like this does not have beneath the mask. Okay Like this does not have beneath the mask. Okay. So, I feel like because, you know, obviously music and persona is a huge thing, but like, I wouldn't just use that as the frame of reference for what I would hope because the music in SMT, for example, is nothing like the way persona sounds like, but in SMT-
Starting point is 02:00:19 Oh, I fucking love the music in SMT. But it's so creepy and weird and like apocalyptic and ethereal and like, yeah. I fucking love the music in this. But it's so creepy and weird and apocalyptic and ethereal. And yeah. I fucking love it. It's insanely wild and creepy and out there. And when I pulled four and five, that's where I kind of was like, ooh, what is the identity of this genre? What are these sound effects?
Starting point is 02:00:40 It's a very distinct, distinct creepy vibe that is also awesome So I would hope that this being its own yeah some of a lot of metaphors areas You would like those a lot of metaphors areas kind of sound like they're from a fire emblem game. Okay Hmm and it's like oh, this is a really pleasant track for this area. It's normal for this area it's normal it's contrasts very heavily to like the Esperanto like crazy shit that's going on a lot of battle tracks okay okay yeah no like I'm just even now I'm just like I have like the SMT 5 music earworms of just like this the weird sound effects that would be playing and shit like that like you want you want
Starting point is 02:01:26 Your your brand or your new IP to have its like thematic identity with that, you know Yes, Shin Megami Tensei exists in a world in which the Sega Genesis was the dominant 16-bit console Yeah, all those grungy Yeah, it's great 100% okay Yeah, it's great. 100%. Okay. But yeah, other than that, yeah, metaphor, like in terms of gameplay, in terms of content, I'm just routinely impressed.
Starting point is 02:01:54 Calling it the Elden Ring of Atlas is super accurate. Like it is put together in the same way too, where they're like, we stole this from here, we stole this from here, we took this from here, we took this from here, we took this from here. I guess when I hear that, the first thing I think of is like, and we blew our scale out further and larger than anything we've ever done. Yeah, I would say so. So like, by P5 Royale standards? In terms of scope, yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 02:02:25 In terms of different places. So like the typical persona thing is either go back to the same dungeon as before or go to the macro dungeon. Or go to Tartarus or Mementos or something like that. Here all the side content is in like unique little dungeons. Okay. Like you have your big dungeon, but then all your side quests take place in unique little dungeons. Okay, like you have your big dungeon, but then all your side quests take place in unique little ones. Now granted, it's
Starting point is 02:02:49 Tomb, Forest, Evil Tower, Cave. And that's where it kind of feels like Elden Ring, where there's a very clear distinction between what Elden Ring would call a legacy dungeon and a side dungeon. But yeah, no, it is very significantly expanded. And even though the amount of days on the calendar is less, you end up doing a lot more with all of those days. Because there's no day in which you didn't get anything accomplished. Which is one of the big frustrations I had with 3, 4, and 5, where it's like, hey, do you want to hang out with Akihiko? No, that's a bad example because he's not. You want to hang out with Mitsuru? Well, you guys hung
Starting point is 02:03:33 out and talked for a little bit. Maybe you'll get closer next time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you go home and level up your academics for the 45th night in a row. Did you get academic? No, you didn't. And you you're like what the fuck was this fucking? Nothing day well you said a thing that led to two notes popping up So the noise was nice, and you got a little bit closer Yeah, so The the almost total removal of say the right thing get more points to level up your character in metaphor, makes that shit go real fast
Starting point is 02:04:08 by comparison, because when you go hang out with somebody for their bond, you don't have to bring the right thing, you don't have to say the right thing. That thing's gonna fucking level up. Bring the right thing, yeah, yeah, that too. Man, the moment you start talking about the scale of this being, again, like an Elden Ring bit, now I'm like, so Atlus had a team working on this and then another team on P3 Re and then another team on Vengeance, I guess?
Starting point is 02:04:37 Did you see somebody posted, I think it was on Subreddit, the games that Sega has put out this year? Yeah, I did. Yeah, between that and that. So I mean, okay, publishing is not the same because there's different developers, but Sega... Oh yeah, how many different developers? Well, so there's the Like a Dragon team, there's the Sonic...
Starting point is 02:05:01 Four of those are from Atlas. Yeah, and then there's Sonic and Shadow Generations, which is is also getting good reviews and then the like a dragon stuff, right? Yeah, and monkey ball and the monkey ball game, but yeah, but like holy shit But I always do kind of go like yeah. Yeah, just you know Publishing though, right? Like yeah, but But let's not pay, let's not sell the like a dragon team short. Now, like infinite wealth came out in January and pirate Yakuza in Hawaii is coming out in February of this year. That's a 13th
Starting point is 02:05:41 month gap for I looked it up while we were doing it, what is essentially Yakuza 23. Ridiculous. We made the assets, just keep making side missions, put them in a new game. Put a hat on them. And also add boats Yeah, so I so I guess then I guess the the the over at atlas team like I guess there's probably three groups probably
Starting point is 02:06:21 Interesting okay, that's fucking that's great. That's really cool. Did you see the new pirate yakuza trailer? It has black's boat combat in it. Yes! Here, let me... Oh, let's go! And shanties? I don't know about shanties. I don't know about that. I thought I heard a shanty.
Starting point is 02:06:39 They put out a tweet, the Like A Dragon guys put out a tweet that just said, ah, AAAA, quadruple A, quit your yawning and come on, let's go pirating. And it looks like they're fucking making fun of Skull and Bones. The first quadruple A video game, if you remember. Oh, god damn it. Yeah, here you go. Here's the timestamp for naval combat in Pirate Yakuza in Hawaii. Okay. It really just literally is
Starting point is 02:07:21 Black Flag's explicit gameplay. Well, look, man. Like like the way that it looks, the way that it controls, the way that it shoots, the way that you board. Someone needs to save naval combat from Ubisoft before that ship goes down. So like making fun of Ubisoft is fun, but also... Ah, yeah, there you go. Oh no, we're dead! We're dead.
Starting point is 02:07:55 Oh no, hold up. Everything crashed. Okay, Twitch has been acting up. Okay, thank God it's not just me. So no, because we're online here. We're continuing like everything's green on this. But Twitch, I can't see you. You're frozen for me.
Starting point is 02:08:11 Oh, that's weird. Okay. I have seen I have had two issues with Twitch in the last last day or so. Yeah. Okay. Well, I had I've had an issue where if I alt tab out of Or is our audio still? We're live. Oh, thank God. I didn't take my dick out your audio dick. Yes. Ah my penis
Starting point is 02:08:37 I've been having this fun thing where when I alt tab out of metaphor it crashes OBS somehow Weird okay, huh? metaphor it crashes OBS somehow. Weird. Okay. Yeah, no, that's great. Just get whatever, hey, pirate whatever features you can off of the Ubisoft ship and stick it on your own. Like it took 13 years to put out Skull and Bones and these guys whipped this out. And like, it didn't do it in 13 months. They did it in like probably two years or two and a half years. But like, the workflow on these fucking Like a Dragon guys is second to none, man. Yeah, I...
Starting point is 02:09:21 Like, it's incredible. I'm not a fan of the 12 month sequel turnarounds like I always like that's always They're great historically just a Rough way to go or you eventually like KOF it and realize yeah, this is bad for the long run They've been speeding up. I Don't know if you realize that. If you look at the dates, like, like not only is it one a year now, they are speeding up.
Starting point is 02:09:52 Sometimes it's two a year. Yeah, I don't, I don't want this KOF and KOTOR 2 timeline. They used to be on an 18 month cycle and now they're down to like 14 months. And they come out on computer. It's crazy. Man, I can't wait for a character to jump on Majima's ship called Jonner. And just be a scallywag. He's a trusty crewmate. Honestly, I wouldn't even be surprised. I genuinely... they could do anything. So the only times that Yakuza games or like Dragon games took like a long time to come out is when they would massively increase like the fidelity, right?
Starting point is 02:11:04 So when they went from PS2 to PS3, okay, that took a while. When they went from PS3 to PS4, that took a while. When they made Like a Dragon and they did the Yokohama stuff, that took a while. But once they have those areas and they're happy with the way it looks, yeah, boom boom boom boom boom over and over and over and over. So I guess the next generation Yakuza game Hawaii and they're showing off all this like Hawaii shit I would be Astonished if you did not go back to Kamurocho or Yokohama in this game at some point But if you what if you did and graphically everything just looked older
Starting point is 02:12:04 No, it would it would look exactly the same way it looks like in infinite wealth and um, and yeah, okay. Like same asset. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. There's no, there's no need to change it. Why change it? Why would you ever change it? Cool. I foresee like the fidelity of these, these locations locations is actually really really high right now. I foresee them actually not Like upgrading like the engine and all that
Starting point is 02:12:36 For a while. I think they're gonna ride this one out for like five more games I mean you said that that the Dodongo Island or whatever had every single old asset dropable, right? It had PS. Well, it had the texture from Yakuza 1 on PS2 from where Dojima gets shot against the wall in the cutscene. They have absolutely kept it.
Starting point is 02:13:01 It's all in there. They have kept every asset they have ever made. And when you see it in Dodongo Island, it's like. It's all kept every asset they have ever made. And when you see it in a don't go island, it's like, not only have they kept every asset they've ever made, they've kept it in such a way that they can just insert it into the new versions of the engine. Those that shit is available. Remember when, when like Japanese devs just lost game code, just, just misplaced the builds be honest when you say lost you mean destroyed right um What was the word I saw this week?
Starting point is 02:13:46 Abandoned? Was it? I think it was like abandoned property or something to that word. Anyway, I forget what the word was. Abandonware? No, not abandonware. It was like Square Enix has like over 130 million dollars in something. It was like just shit that is just gone.
Starting point is 02:14:10 Like spent money that's got abandoned, whatever. Yeah, yeah. Like something like that. Anyway. Yeah, or like, hey, the SNK. Just like, like, Sam Show 64, who the fuck knows where that way ended up. It's gone. It's a Silent Hill 2
Starting point is 02:14:32 Yeah, I think the strangest thing about Silent Hill 2 is that Konami lost the gold master and everything to do with it But had a non finished beta version lying around that must have been on a guy's computer Like just I kept it I was working out on a home the disk in the machine and then like just never ejected it from the dev kit And then BAM we've got a build from him from a million years ago, yeah So those of you who don't know what the term gone gold means, it means that when you're making your video game and it's going to be pressed to a disc, the company makes a actual literal gold master copy to be sent off to the factory, which is occasionally
Starting point is 02:15:15 really funny if they press the wrong version of the game. But you're also supposed to take that gold master and fucking put it somewhere. Um, I mean, you go from your release candidates and such to your after submission at the very least anyway, but, and I mean, obviously it's different now, but like, yeah, there's just this era of, um, pre mastering, which is the entire process of like putting this stuff on disks and getting it out to the team and everything. We're like Entire games are just gone completely just they just evaporated everyone's worth
Starting point is 02:15:54 The only place I exist is in emulated states and you know this because when Nintendo or Microsoft or Sega or whoever puts out an emulation collection or whatever the fuck and if you dig deep enough you find out half the time that they got that shit off a wrong website because that's the only place that fucking shit lives. Oh man, the original fucking like last blade PC edition and you're just like that's the fucking Neo Geo Bio zip file. What are you doing? I can see it.
Starting point is 02:16:29 I can open up the file, I can see it. You downloaded that copy of Last Blade from a Spanish website with Juarez on it, and you dropped it online and sold it. Or that, was it Cooking Mama that was using, I think like Visual Boy, some shit. There was just things where like, oh yeah, Nintendo, they were using actual emulator code
Starting point is 02:16:54 in their official releases as well. I am so certain that Bloodborne is lost. You think it's just gone from existence? I don't have any proof, I don't have any proof. I don't have any details. But I can feel it in my guts that Bloodborne is literally lost. No, man, not like this.
Starting point is 02:17:19 And Blue Point probably has a remade copy that they're just saying tell us when You know well Blue blue point. Oh, man. Yeah, if that they already did it. They're like hey guys. Oh, hey guys. We did it Just tell us what it's right here You know that would be the move like the demon souls PS5 is to just say hey, here's blood-borne PS5 look PS5 is to just say, hey, here's Bloodborne, PS5. Look, it's very fancy and it's very-
Starting point is 02:17:46 They made Demon's Souls, they skipped the entire Dark Souls series and just made Bloodborne and we're waiting. We're waiting for Soty to say yes, go. All right. What's a- I want to play Bloodborne. Well, in the meantime, you'll be playing other things That's true when and where?
Starting point is 02:18:11 I'm gonna be playing a lot this week actually like a I'm I'm probably streaming Damn near every single day all the way out to Halloween Cuz it's fucking Halloween, but anyway This week in order, I'm going to be streaming Towerborn. That's a sponsored stream tomorrow. Then on Wednesday, October 23rd, it's Fallout Day. So my darling wife, Peach Saliva, will be starting a series of Fallout New Vegas streams Which I have helped Put together a Viva New Vegas install on that
Starting point is 02:18:55 So that it will run smooth and not break pretty so you can go check that over twitch.tv slash peach saliva on Wednesday She's also gonna stream it on Thursday, but a little earlier in the day. Pretty sure DJ Ames is working on Towerborn as well. Oh yeah? Of DJ and weapon lord fame, which is pretty dope. Had a chat with him at EVO. You also reminded me I have some emails to answer. Oh yeah? Of note for Pages New Vegas Streams is that they are primarily research for the ongoing Jork Report because Season 2 of Fallout will be taking place in New Vegas.
Starting point is 02:19:37 Naturally. So, the tone will be Jork ghoul centered Probably I can't stop her and I don't think I should or like Jork Vegas That's great bully you get a gold star That's doesn't even fucking rhyme doesn't even Doesn't work at all, But that's why it does. I'm also going to be streaming more UFO 50 and metaphor, find refunt asio on Friday. I'm going to be playing a sponsorship called Creatures of War and also be taking a look at a game recommended by somebody Jack called Tactical Breach Wizards, which is X-com but
Starting point is 02:20:19 Wizards. It's like X-com, but it's got wizards. Okay, New York City works really well. Yeah, New York City's much better. But you have to know about New Jack City. There's that. Okay, quick break. But yeah, no, there's a lot going on.
Starting point is 02:20:41 So go down to twitch.tv slash PatStairsAt and twitch.tv slash Peach to Live This twitch.tv slash peach saliva this week. Okay Oh Yeah, and I'll also play I'll wake to the lake house. I will also play a lake house DLC Yeah over on Willie versus finishing off Elden ring and Some Phoenix right and then this weekend we know No fighting games gonna be no fighting games. Are you okay?
Starting point is 02:21:06 Oh my god, yeah going up to a cabin can have some fun. Oh, that's nice. Yeah. Oh You know what? There is a another thing that I should mention on my social media platform the podcast I am What with the new changes to Twitter and the possibility that Twitter may be banned in Canada in the coming weeks I am Going to advertise that you if you follow me on Twitter go down to blue sky and follow me at Pat stares at on blue sky
Starting point is 02:21:41 Because that block shit is gonna cause big legal problems in this country. Yeah, I'm curious how far that's going to go. I mean, I guess we'll see. I have a BlueSky up there as well. I haven't done much with it besides just take the name to avoid anyone squatting or being weird. Yeah. So I had a BlueSky account for years now, but I didn't really use it. And then an app got created where you can basically figure out who you follow on Twitter is on Blue Sky. Yeah, Sharpie, you told me you mentioned that. Man, she's super helpful.
Starting point is 02:22:14 Shout out to the Purple Sharpie. She's been super helpful when I was moving over to Blue Sky. She's been long time been an advocate of platform migration away from this thing for a while. Yeah. Well, the other thing is that a shit ton of artists I follow are not just leaving Twitter, but they're deleting their accounts on the way out because they don't want it being used up for grok, for that AI garbage. This was basically going to be a segment a bit later, but I mean, since we're talking about it now, essentially the two big changes to Twitter have been the block function now lets people who you blocked or who blocked you still see just not interact, which is great.
Starting point is 02:22:55 Like, okay, that is that is not what that is supposed to be for. 50% of what I block people for. It's it's half of the function. And it makes a lot more sense when you realize that it's like, oh, it's because when you block, when you, when, the, he's, Elon Salty about you blocking forced accounts like his and other shit. Or advertisers. Yeah, anything you don't want to see that's pushed at you in the, in your timeline or whatever that you can get rid of. It's like, no, we don't want you to be able to get rid of that. Right. And also, I remember early on, what the fuck was the account? What is it now currently?
Starting point is 02:23:38 You've given me no information. I have nothing. I need something. Give me anything. The one account I get notifications for on my phone Drill whose name has been changing a lot. So but yes drill Drills on blue sky has uh was like yet. He's doing blue sky specific tweets. Sorry skeet I think I think like when his whole campaign was like block
Starting point is 02:24:01 block check marks or whatever then I was like,, oh, that's also bad for business because. Oh, it's terrible. Because you use blue blocker to just block every single person that's verified on Twitter. And what that causes is people who are verified on Twitter, some percentage of people's tweets are just gone because you can't see them. So to increase the value of the verification, you need to make it so that if you're blocked, you can't see them. So to increase the value of the verification, you
Starting point is 02:24:26 need to make it so that if you're blocked, you can still see stuff. Yeah. And I did read as well that like says, yeah, so the whole grok scraping artists shit is part of it too. There are people that have been using blue sky to scrape art. That was something that came up last year. And I think, but there but it's not it's not for older fucking websites It's not the platform holder themselves. Yeah But yeah, ultimately I know that like My my goal at pretty much almost all times is to just use all of this shit less
Starting point is 02:25:02 But I would definitely still just be like, hey, well, I'm going live on Twitch or posting the thing up and you got to communicate to people. This is of note to you, Woolley. So one of the things about Blue Sky is it's a different social media platform and it is literally just off-brand Twitter. So I used the SkyBridge tool to migrate some of my follows, right? Because I follow a couple hundred people. I think I follow like 300-ish, right? I follow less people than you would think, I guess. But I was like, okay, how many people that I follow
Starting point is 02:25:39 on Twitter are over on Blue Sky? And the answer as of right now is 50%. It's like insanely high. Like a lot of the ones that aren't there are like companies or like influencer outlets or whatever the fuck. Like nearly everyone that I interact with on Twitter is actually already on blue sky and posting regularly there. But much more importantly, I tested this, Casey tested this, Casey Explosion, Slothma, and I saw Pirate Software also test this where a lot of people had the idea of like, hey, what if we made identical skeets on both platforms simultaneously. Okay. Heard the word for the first time,
Starting point is 02:26:28 processed, understood, internalized. Yeah. So what's gonna happen if I say, for example, point out that my wife literally slipped and almost died on a banana peel, which did happen, that is real. The baby died on a banana peel Which did happen that is real The baby was eating a banana through the banana peel on the floor page walked in and I heard whoa and She literally almost died
Starting point is 02:26:58 But like let's just mention yep, okay, absolutely So let's just cross post those and and I you know, you set them up and they both go simultaneously, right? What I discovered is that despite the fact that I have a hundred thousand people on Twitter and I have eight thousand people on Blue Sky when I posted those I got 10 times more people liking, viewing, commenting, reposting on Blue Sky than I did on Twitter because on Blue Sky, I'm not being crushed by the verified algorithm and the follow list is just a simple chronological series of your fucking messages in a row. So when I do go live tweets on Twitter,
Starting point is 02:27:47 they are horribly buried and people say they see them hours later. When I do my go live tweets on blue sky, everybody who's on it at the time sees them within a couple of minutes. It's, it's like, it's just literally more effective. Yeah. So if you want to keep up with my schedule and my go live shit and figure out what's going on on the stream, follow me at Pat Stairs on Blue Sky because it is literally faster and more effective to get my messages. I hope it sticks this time. I feel like there have been attempts in the past to get, you know, folks, come on, are
Starting point is 02:28:27 we? And then it doesn't always stick. And then sometimes it turns out to be a wild Saudi Arabian data scraping scam like that other platform from the past. So in Seinfeld, Jerry is talking to Elaine about her breaking up with Putty. And he says that you can't just break up in one go. It's like tipping over a Coke machine. You gotta rock it back and forth a little bit,
Starting point is 02:28:53 and then it's almost about to go over, and then you can push it over. Every single time Twitter does more bullshit or sucks more, I see the, oh, we gotta go to Blue Sky, and then people post on Blue Sky for a month, and then they go back to Twitter because that's where their audience is, right? Yes.
Starting point is 02:29:13 But every single time that happens, more and more and more people are there and posting for longer. The 100K this time, right? So the block change hasn't gone into effect yet. And I've seen half the people I follow go over. Yeah, that's happened in November. If anything is going to tip this Coke machine over, it's going to be the fucking AI and block thing that's happening simultaneously on the same day on November 15th.
Starting point is 02:29:46 The funny part too, like wasn't this created by Jack as well? It was created by Jack. You want to hear the funniest thing? You know what Blue Sky was supposed to be? Blue Sky, he leaves Twitter and he's like, Twitter's done. I did Twitter. We're going to make a decentralized blockchain social media platform. And it's that it's going to be, you can do anything and have all different feeds and plug in every website and it'll be on the blockchain. It'll have all support for all this crypto shit.
Starting point is 02:30:21 But before that got off the ground, Elon started to ruin Twitter. And so the plan seems to have switched to just make Twitter again. Just make it work. Just literally do it again. Because when it started, it had no DMs, it had no pinned messages and shit like that.
Starting point is 02:30:43 Like that's why I didn't use it, because it didn't have any DMs. So if I wanted to be like, would you like to commission this thing? I'm not going to put that into an app. That's weird. Also, it goes down a bunch, right? Because the capacity is not yet there or something. It's it's had some. Oh, I don't know. But you can join it now.
Starting point is 02:31:01 It's had some stumbles of like, oh, the whole the whole thing's gone down. Went with too many people before it? Oh, yeah? I know in the early in the early days when they were invite only yeah, it could go down just from from stress Well, yeah, no, I get it. We'll see we'll see how things go and you know, whether it sticks and stuff, but like Yeah, that's that that makes sense it it it it's the sting of going from 100 to 12 followers is like, oh, but that is definitely soothed by the fact that people are actually seeing my dang shitposts more. I mean, I'd say, you know, most importantly, if you want to see fucking, like when art is gone, you know, when fucking fighting game artists tweets
Starting point is 02:31:51 are not visible anymore with Hungry Clicker. It's like, well, the gun pointed at the account, right? So yeah, Hungry Clicker's gone, all right. Well, you know where you gotta go. So it says a lot that when you go to Blue sky the way it works is you want you can follow feeds You can go to like just my followers or just people who mentioned me And then they have suggested feeds such as the Brazilian super cluster which is the the massive influx of Brazilians that came in when Twitter was
Starting point is 02:32:25 true true true. And now, sorry, when Twitter was shut down in Brazil, and now they have the Japanese supercluster for the enormous amount of Japanese artists that are leaving Twitter en masse because they hate that AI shit. And I assume there is going to be a Canadian supercluster if this block thing doesn't get reverted because Canada will ban it so the digital blocking Requirements, it doesn't uh, I want to say doesn't the UK have something similar as well. They do. Yeah, it's not just Canada Yeah, Canada is the one that is is like it is illegal now
Starting point is 02:33:07 Yeah, Canada is the one that is like, it is illegal now. The blocking thing, if it goes into effect, will be against the terms of service on Google, against the terms of service of Apple, which means it might get pulled from the fucking app store. And it is not legal to be used in Canada either. So like all three of those may come down on like the third or fourth week of November. So is he going to roll it back? Yes, he is going to roll it back because he can't, you can't have a fucking, you can't have a social media app you're not allowed to download on your phone. It's not, it's not very useful. But people will leave during that process. Yeah, it's just interesting how social media sites don't really die anymore. They just
Starting point is 02:33:54 kind of zombie shuffle. They kind of Facebook and stuff. Well, let's see. Facebook is literally a corpse being puppeted by robots. Yeah, so in the olden days, I couldn't tell you if anything is up if you were to go look for a Zenga or a live journal. Oh, it's gone. That shit's gone. Yeah, that's actually dead, right? My Zenga is gone, brother. Actually dead, right?
Starting point is 02:34:22 But now things just kind of enter a weird zombie state and then they just sit there and like, whatever, ads get served up and your grandparents get confused by what they read. But like everything kind of just becomes that, you know? I mean, Tumblr died, but then Tumblr is still hosted up online. You can go. Yeah, the only purpose of Facebook now is for the Twitter account, and hopefully soon Blue Sky account, called Insane Facebook AI Slop. Which is just like this guy just rolls on to his fucking grandma's Facebook, I guess, and just finds just the most unintelligible nonsense. It just makes no sense, has no words, just nightmare shit. But yeah, it does feel like, you know, there's like the things like Twitter sized are sort
Starting point is 02:35:20 of do just kind of enter zombie state instead of like death state. Like the only thing that could, the only thing that could kill Twitter genuinely is this app has been made illegal In ten countries Forward to that okay quick break. Yeah, let's pass whoo Dude while we were gone. I was looking to poop and I saw a fucking reddit thread on Fortnite that says, is it true that Fortnite stops working after bedtime? I want to play past 9pm but mom says the game turns off then. Why does it do that?
Starting point is 02:36:02 And I'm like, I can't, dude, dude. Oh, that's amazing. Like, I can't, I can't wait. I cannot wait to lie. I cannot wait. God damn. Sorry little man, your Nintendo's tired. Sorry, no, it's, after tonight, when it goes to bed, to bed, he'll be okay tomorrow, but he's
Starting point is 02:36:27 tired for now. Just three kids sitting in a circle with their hands for conversation just like, why does Fortnite shut down after bedtime? Wait, how does it know? Wait, Jimmy, you go to bed at 830. How does it know to shut down for just you podcast podcast? Is fortnight overrated Fuck that's great
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Starting point is 02:42:19 It's pretty fun. It's pretty funny because it's like the first time around it's just like what the fuck where'd that come from? That's wild and then the second time around it's like oh, we've got we're forming lore right now. I see how this works Well, this is not the same as encouraging drunk driving That's not true drunk driving doesn't feel way better than regular drunk I would never encourage anyone to be irresponsible or do anything that's dangerous or stupid. That might be the biggest lie you've ever said. You have encouraged so many irresponsible things. Listen, I am not telling anyone to go out there and do anything stupid. do what the fuck listen listen you you can't hit
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Starting point is 02:54:16 Hey, yo vampire survivors guess what? They did they did it They reached they have they actually did it. The circle, the loop is closed. So it's really funny. I started showing that trailer to Paige this morning. Then it's just an animated trailer. And we're about 30 seconds in and she hears the Castlevania music
Starting point is 02:54:38 and she goes, is this fucking Vampire Survivors? Which like, yeah, no, that's the thing. Like, did they do it? They fucking did it! Everything went full circle of the moon. Yeah, man. So, vampire survivors owed to Castlevania DLC was announced today.
Starting point is 02:55:04 And like, the fact that fucking, Ode to Castlevania DLC was announced today. And like the fact that fucking like Ponkle can just release $4 DLC forever on this game. So I haven't played the Among Us DLC or the Contra DLC and I didn't beat the Adventure mode. What this means is there is now more content in Vampire Survivors than there was when I 100%'ed the first two DLCs. Like there's more content I haven't played than there was when I 100%ed the game every time a patch came out. So, with all these buildup of like, it's like, you know, it's almost like a talk show or
Starting point is 02:55:52 like a show where you're like, hey, you wanna, you're collaborating with all these others, but you know who they wanna get on the show, but you're just like, can we ever get them though? You know? And they're like, we got Tom Hanks' brother. Oh, best friend that hung out that one time. The one that was on the stream that didn't say the N-word. And then, you know, and you go on and you go on
Starting point is 02:56:17 and then they just kind of like, yeah, like they got, oh, they got Among Us, they got the mother, ah, right. They got Castlevania. The thing that they're ripping off and homaging and just the whole time, you have it now. And they're like, what are they gonna do now that they have the deal on the table? Well, the breakdown on Steam,
Starting point is 02:56:35 because when you read it, they're just like, yeah, this thing is, they're like, this is not a one and sitting and done expansion. This is a new, this is Vampire Survivors 2. It has 40 plus weapons, 20 plus characters, 30 plus tracks, and one big castle. That is Vampire Survivors 2. That like, and- Just straight up.
Starting point is 02:57:00 It is, and like they're like,'re like which wish of the you know Whip-wielding protagonists would not show up in this type of celebration spoiler text none Everyone is literally all everyone is here of it. So like I what? This is so this is this is how like where we're at in media They said everyone is here and then they show the thing of the, you know, the poster, right? And in that poster is like everyone that I would expect to be there plus a bunch that I wouldn't like, oh, Julius, and then I'm watching it and I'm like, is that fucking Jonathan Morris from Bloodlines?
Starting point is 02:57:43 Oh my God. It is everyone., it is everyone. It actually is everyone. Now here is the rub. By including everyone, one must include Alucard. Who is a Dom Peer, as we all know. Half! No, no, he's a we all know. Half! A Dom Pyrr? No, no, he's a Dom Pyrr. Half!
Starting point is 02:58:08 He is not a half vampire, he is a Dom Pyrr. Okay, and what about Soma Cruz? He is a reincarnation. He is a regular person. Just happens to be a little magical so the rule is not broken The rule is not there is no vampires anywhere at vampires. I think I My god that I
Starting point is 02:58:39 think if the game did feature a vampire game did feature a vampire that this is the only time it would be appropriate for the non vampire game to have the vampire because it's the vampire and it's not just you could like Bram Stoker's fucking Dracula. No, this is video games own Fucking Dracula the one your entire game was based on if they wanted to which we have so far not seen them do but But there is a half vampire That is not a half vampire. That is a Dom peer Pat. Have you ever heard of the one drop rule? I have But it doesn't apply for Alucard.
Starting point is 02:59:30 It only applies for Blade. How you doing, my Octaroon? But you in there though. But you in there. I can hang out in the daylight. Alucard is in there. Yeah. Alucard is in there. You can call it what you wanna call it, but he's in there I can I can hang out in the daylight alucard is in there yeah alucard is in there you can call it what you want to call it but he's in there though
Starting point is 02:59:48 I you can call it what you want to call it I'm not calling it nothing other than Dom peer hmm this conversation is causing automod to freak out I love your I don't know if you're looking over here. I'm not. I'm not. Autobot is not having it. Okay. Well, I mean, you know, I don't know. Could he get his tax-free card? Possibly. I imagine. That's a tough question. I don't know, man. I think I think we have a half vampire in the game, but shit. All right. I'll see why we got a I don't see why we got a you know, erasure. This is vampire erasure as far as I'm concerned. Isn't the purpose of vampires for them to be erased? Isn't the purpose of vampires for them to be erased?
Starting point is 03:00:51 Are we supposed to erase vampires? I thought that's what we were doing or merely survive Listen all right. This is not a this is not an or is envy situation. This is it vampire survivors being like the shittiest Fakest looking game that's like a slot machine and like I have seen this happen like ten times like you were one of them Where you explain vampire survivors and people I? Don't know and then the jingle the fucking coins, and then you're on your face does what your face is doing right now And then the jingle of the fucking coins. And then your face does what your face is doing right now! And just like, over and over and over. I have revealed it to many people.
Starting point is 03:01:31 And it's the moment you open the treasure box. And the dance. It's the, as the bits go. Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do. You know, like that's it. It's the, it's all the good chemicals. Yep. Every good chemical.
Starting point is 03:01:48 I've watched that happen. The strongest specifically in Vampire Survivors with that moment. And I've watched it happen with Balotro. And I've showed my cousin who like he plays cards and he doesn't, he hasn't, he hasn't game that much, you know, these days he used to back in the day and I showed him balutro and he's just like okay So it's like video poker and I was like, yeah. Yeah, but you can do more You can like actually bend the rules and you can get special joke is any kind of excellent He's like, okay, okay, you know and he did a couple and he's like, mm-hmm
Starting point is 03:02:17 And then I was like, okay now you see that right there now watch this you can turn that card also into a king So now hey look at that you got five of a kind and it will like took took took took took and it went and then it lit on fire Because the score was so high and it flew to the side and it turned it to cash and he went oh Oh, no. Oh, no. No. No. No. This is bad. Dude. This is bad. You can't be showing me this He's like I gotta work man. I got kids dude like you can't be showing me this. He's like, I gotta work, man. I got kids, dude, like you can't be showing me this. It was the moment, like it all counted up and lit on fire and then cashed out and I was like, yeah. The good button, the good button.
Starting point is 03:02:57 We're using the power of addictive gambling for good. I mean, once you know about the button, you can't ignore it you can't convince game developers to not press it. I cannot but I cannot like fucking vampire survivors is such it's so good and it's such a good deal and it's on sale it's on sale right now they know know how about that? It's 25% off right now 25% off of what? of fucking
Starting point is 03:03:30 six bucks Okay, but now I get that now I get that Hollow Knight thing of like no man Take money come on Don't be stupid you could buy Hold on. This is Canadian dollar so obviously Americans you have to change it But all the DLC plus the full game is Fucking like 11. It's like seven. It's like $16. Yeah, I've got 83 hours out of the fucking base game, man There's a point you hit with this type of shit, or it's like okay dev you've made your point Everyone appreciates it stop being a fucking monk man
Starting point is 03:04:06 Please when this game comes like a song you you're doing a good job Our survivors cost like a dollar like literally one dollar you looked at it and thought oh, that's about right for this piece of shit And then you're like, oh my god, this is infinity fucking value It looks like it's worth a dollar I can value it looks like it's worth a dollar So you go that checks out and you find out very quickly that it's fucking so much better than that And then he raised the price of the price and they raised the price to like four bucks And you were like who even gives a shit
Starting point is 03:04:41 Like oh my god So yeah here comes the Castlevania DLC with just... Like, yeah, again, a sequel's worth of content dropped in. And like, all the new weapons are just like, loving references to all the shit that the characters do in the series. Every, you know... Like, it's all there, and you see the monsters you're gonna be fighting as well Like it's it's it is a full-on Like what if we made a vampire survivors game that was just Castlevania But instead of making it its own game for Konami, we just made the game and then put it inside of our game
Starting point is 03:05:20 So this is the weirdest thing Konami, after torching their games business very dramatically a couple years ago, and all that pachinko shit in the pandemic, they're like, we're going to get back into video games. And the Metal Gear collection is fixed now, by the way. I don't know if you know this, but the Metal Gear collection on PC and the consoles, it's fixed. It runs and works like it's supposed to. The audio bugs are fixed. It renders the resolutions it's supposed to. It runs the frame rates it's supposed to. It's fixed. It's like, do you want to play Metal Gear Solid? You finally, literally just can go. There's a new Silent Hill game that's great. They crossed over with Dead by Daylight and Vampire Survivors and
Starting point is 03:06:09 those fucking crossovers have been great. And it's like, and like the all the Castlevania collections they just did the dominance thing that that's really good. Everything they're doing is great other than making a new goddamn Castlevania game. So I think we're talking about the word Delta was going to land the other day. The I mean the PT fuck up will live forever but then again it spawned and created a bunch of... We got Death Stranding out of the exchange.
Starting point is 03:06:47 Whatever. Exactly. So history corrects that one. But there is also those other Silent Hill games that are new that are coming, too. We don't need to worry about that. Well, I just will see how it goes but so far it looks like there's some good choices coming out for What was once like the jail that was holding? snake
Starting point is 03:07:17 Dracula and Fucking what were we just saying? pyramid head Fucking, what were we just saying? Pyramid Head. Sondahill. Yeah, yeah. We'll see, we'll see. But it's nice that it's not just a complete fucking absolute embarrassment for those IPs that people give a fuck about after all this time.
Starting point is 03:07:44 I'd be curious. for those IPs that people give a fuck about after all this time. I'd be curious. The only thing Konami needs to do now is get another Metal Gear collection that lets you play MGS4 and Peace Walker and Poops on fucking your PC. And then that company can burn down. I don't even give a shit. Like just get me the way to play all the Metal Gear games. I know that. Including Poops.
Starting point is 03:08:09 So I know that like it's not the case, but I feel as if for some reason they would have to ask Sony permission to release four. I don't think that's true at all. I know, but it feels like it. It feels like they have to ask permission to port four somewhere. You know what's really funny about Metal Gear Solid 4 is that the further I get away from Metal Gear
Starting point is 03:08:28 Solid 4 the more I'm like I mean I really didn't like it but it's really important that I can play it if I want to because I can't let you play with your Metal Gear toys it lets you get it lets you bully It lets you enjoy the Metal Gear museum. That's not true. Metal Gear Solid 4's biggest problem is that they don't let you play with your Metal Gear toy. It lets you watch your Metal Gear toys. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:09:00 I mean, it has to someday. It can't stay jailed on the ps3 forever It's it well, they've literally talked about how they're they're working on. Oh, okay. That's that's probably The most work of anything just because that thing had so many ps3 specific weird fucking things in it But yeah, so Castlevania DLC coming out on Halloween. Pretty fucking solid. And then on that same note, with Silent Hill 2 remake, Bloober Team does an interview. This headline rules so hard.
Starting point is 03:09:49 We are done making shitty games and Silent Hill 2 remake was not a fluke. This is a great quote. Holy shit. This is great great quote. Holy shit. This is great. Man. So they see this as the start of Bloober Team 3.0. And like, yeah, Silent Hill 2 Remake
Starting point is 03:10:16 was the best reviewed game. And they've also announced Chronos New Dawn, which was- Which is their own unique horror game. Their own unique horror game with yeah trailer seems interesting you know I had it with the chess playing astronaut and demons demons and whatnot exactly so we'll see what's going on there but yeah there it's like it's an acknowledgement essentially that the medium and all that
Starting point is 03:10:39 shit beforehand. That's wild. It's, hey, it's really, it is respect worthy. That is wild. That they have come out and been like, yeah, that shit sucked. We're only doing good stuff now. That is awesome of them to say that. I mean, like the process of. Now let's, let's fucking see though. So, so, remaking a really good game gives you some rails to follow, you know.
Starting point is 03:11:08 But then as you were describing it, you were mentioning how much new stuff that was expanded on. Yeah, but they're coloring inside the lines of their cartoon house and then they're adding a nice little tree to the next to it. And the process of coloring inside the cartoon lines shows you what making a good game feels like. Hey! That's crazy!
Starting point is 03:11:29 You learn something in the process! They're making the good game and they're like, is this what it feels like? Oh, we should have been chasing this feeling! The feeling of doing a good job! The wildest part, though, with this headline is headline is like you're straight up going like yeah We made some shit before but now we're not doing that anymore. And it's like wait, when did the medium come out? Oh not long ago 2021!
Starting point is 03:11:58 Hahahaha It came out three years ago Just a couple years ago Hahahaha It came out three years ago! Just a couple years ago. You know, it's not like, aw man, back in the ten years, fucking, that shit we made, like, 24 months and a bit. Oh, that was ages ago. And like, yeah, somebody points out that Mercury Steam steam did this mercury steam made a bunch of trash and then they made some amazing shit the the the Castlevania side-scrolling
Starting point is 03:12:33 That games terrible that is really bad What was Lord's of Shadow ones on the shadow? one It's alright Yeah, Lord's of Shadow 2 is not alright yeah so I mean I just a wild statement of self-awareness and good on Bloober awesome let's see where that goes. Man, man, if this game sucks, that's going to be real unfortunate. Oh, Kronos the New Thon. Oh man. I mean. Because nobody ever
Starting point is 03:13:15 calls it out. The only time I can think of where I can think of a developer that was like just pointing at the stands going, we're knocking out of the park, was it's Sunno with DMC5 with the phrase, it will exceed all of your expectations. Which is awesome. If Chronos fails though, there is like, you retreat back to rake making remakes or you die as a company. Well they said in a, and I think it was in that that interview, that we're not opposed to working on Silent Hill again in the future.
Starting point is 03:13:49 Yeah. And again, as you pointed out last week, it's like, well, with a one in threes connection point, four would be the logical jump. Four is the one. Four is the one. Also, four is like the last one that was good, but it was like, oh, it needs it more than any of the others. I swear to God.
Starting point is 03:14:09 DMC fucking force. So Jack dude, DMC five will exceed your expectations. And then it actually does. The phrase was specifically, it will exceed all of your expectations. What a moment. What a fucking time. Well, yeah, no, that's good for them. So alongside that, not much, but just some people were able to pull out that the Mario and Luigi brothership is being developed by a choir.
Starting point is 03:14:57 So despite Nintendo's efforts to hide that shit, bury it, and fucking make sure nobody knows who's making the game. Oh, I forgot. Don't look at them. Look over here. I thought it was... I forgot it was brother shit. It's brother shit. I like it. I think it's... I think that's the... I think it's fine.
Starting point is 03:15:17 Nothing wrong with that. Yeah. We don't have to let the internet taint every word. Nah, you do. Every word. Nah, you do. Every word. You see, you would think it would be used to describe the supernatural fandom, but they sidestepped right around that word. They just got-
Starting point is 03:15:40 Did they? Yeah. They went right to the meat and potatoes and they called it twin-cest. Oh yeah. Okay. Did they? Yeah. They went right to the to the meat and potatoes and they called it twin zest. Oh yeah, OK. Well, that Jensen Ackles guy is pretty handsome. So can you really blame them? Yes. Yes, you can. Can you? Yes. Will you? Yes. But no, yeah, we will. But but. I've never seen an episode of it, but I feel like in my brain It's like damn this hot like like mom. That's a widower is getting possessed by the devil
Starting point is 03:16:14 Should we go savor like yeah, I guess but now let's just like make out over here instead, bro And then not really but then I don't know roll credits I feel like that's what that show is And then halfway during the writing of this it's like and then he grew the beard that he had on in the boys Did he do that in the show was that the no, okay, no, okay No, he just looks way better with the beard um so yeah a choir there there are the devs behind Octopath Traveler and such so that's oh cool that's probably great that probably great not Not great. Oh no. I hate not great things. There was a Yoko Taro fan archive that basically collected all Nier related works and had like
Starting point is 03:17:20 tons and tons of info over on Accords library that it had everything about Drakengard and like just all these, I mean, when your lore can be found in stage plays, collecting them all in one place is quite an endeavor. And it was good enough that Yoko Taro himself said that he thanked them for making it. And hey, that's cool. And that's great.
Starting point is 03:17:50 And then a few months later, Square Legal contacted them and basically forced them to shut it down. Their message was, these past few years have been a pleasure, but we regret to inform you that all we've been contacted by Square Enix Legal and after some private communication based on the outline requirements, we've come to the conclusion that Accord's library must close its doors by the end of the month. So we're sad to see it go, but we respect the wishes of the legal team. Which is- So it's just crazy because it's literally like after getting official acknowledgement You're also in the eye of sorrow. Yoko Taro is not official acknowledgement. Yoko Taro is just some weird guy
Starting point is 03:18:32 Rolling around the school the floor screaming fuck Square Enix so Normally you'd be like oh they're shutting this down that must mean that like there's gonna be some kind of official thing coming down but this is Square Enix so actually no go fuck yourself there's definitely actually nothing coming at all this shit's just dead and there's no reason to believe they're going to do that the word I was looking for earlier was content abandonment Square Enix has lost of $140 million to content abandonment. Yeah. So it sucks and it seems like basically,
Starting point is 03:19:16 even though again it was like this great resource for all this info and stuff. And again, you'd feel like why would fan access to like media and stuff relating to this thing be a problem and They're the guess is that it's because they also had Stuff that was not in circulation anymore fan translations Scans of like mangas and novellas that you just can't find anywhere else Well, why don't you just make it available, you dumb fucking assholes?
Starting point is 03:19:45 Fuck you, no, and also fuck anybody that tries to read it. Well, they you. I kind of lost myself there for a second and like forgot that you were playing a character. So when you said fuck you, no, I almost blew up at like the the the fucking cuz it's so it's so fucking annoying You thought you thought I was squeenix you thought I was square you I like saw you as a fucking Square Enix logo for a second Man
Starting point is 03:20:21 Man. It's like, oh, shut the fuck up! Just leave it alone! God damn it! Just, you know, shit that like, God forbid anyone like the thing that you made and sold and want to know more about it. God forbid. Fuck them. Hey, here's a question.
Starting point is 03:20:42 Square Enix, your all-time most marquee franchises ever, Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy. Let's take Final Fantasy, one I'm more familiar with. If I wanted to play Final Fantasy VIII right now, how would I actually do that? I don't think I can. Has it not been put on anything? I don't think it has. I know seven has and I know nine has. Hmm. I... yeah...
Starting point is 03:21:19 I guess not. Oh it is, it is, it's right there. Is it? Yeah, it yeah, okay still though my point my point remains It's on PSN. It's on Steam. Okay fucking if I wanted to play brave fence or moussa Yeah, that's what that was a blow up which I might the the momentum has the momentum has stalled Damn it place going down, buddy It's right there it's actually Literally, it's right Okay, well the point still is don't fucking shut down a fan site man, what the fuck that's stupid that sucks people just want to
Starting point is 03:22:03 Like the thing that you're you you want them to buy Huge out I like brave fence and moustache she like it Can't even see the fucking Whatever can I play xeno gears the game? I actually really care about a lot No, I can't even though it has rollback now Xenogears got rollback before it got a goddamn real re-release. What the fuck are you talking about? Oh you don't know? The versus mode the. The versus mode in Xenogears has rollback now. That's amazing.
Starting point is 03:22:46 That's incredible. Wow, the fan base. Holy shit. Speaking of rollback, Ubisoft France tried to roll back the rules and force a couple and force a change to the in-office policies and that has resulted in 700 employees walking out on a three-day strike. What is the change? Maybe I can touch your boobie a little bit.
Starting point is 03:23:35 Yeah, somewhere in there you'd think. They wanted to force a three-day return to office policy, which nobody wants to do. And... You know, Ubisoft is uniquely disadvantaged from trying to get people back into the office. Oh, you think there's some disincentives from being physically in the office? I think there are enormous disincentives to working in office at Ubisoft.
Starting point is 03:24:15 Well, they believe that being in office would boost creativity and teamwork while respecting individual circumstances Anyway, they're boost your fucking nuts Freak oh soft is in trouble, dude. This is this there. I don't know if I Don't know if you're even have the newest Ubisoft is in trouble article ready Well, I mean I feel as if ever since the buyout potential announcement from at least two weeks ago or so, it's like fast tracking to make it happen. Because you almost are like, oh, when there's people that want that value to dip even lower
Starting point is 03:24:56 so that the buyout gets easier. I don't know if they make it to like the new year or at least the next the quarter after this Without some major at least changes to who's holding what stock Would you like to read the newest is? Ubisoft going to make it article Ubisoft targeted by class-action lawsuits for allegedly sharing customers data with meta Not even the one I was talking about. That's that's that's not even the one I was talking about. I'm sorry. I was talking about something completely different. Oh my mistake whoops cuz this this yeah that also
Starting point is 03:25:37 happened. Not that one? Which one? Which one were you thinking of I was talking about the one from inside gaming? Did you see this one? Assassin's Creed shadows early access and season pass have been canceled. Oh, no, I did not Well, whoopsie-doodle this page does not exist yeah So Well, whoopsie doodle, this page does not exist. Yeah. So, uh, no more season pass. It must be, it must be all hands on deck to damn near like early access is three days, right? So they need, they need the three extra days you get from early access.
Starting point is 03:26:30 Where does this happen? Oh, this happened today. This was four hours ago. But the article is deleted. Hold on, I'm looking for another source on this. The Inside Gaming article is now gone. The only other place is... This seems to be the only article linking to it. I'm not seeing it pop up anywhere else. So, currently,
Starting point is 03:26:56 in... Yeah, that's weird. It's gone. All right. Oh wait. Maybe it's wrong. Wait for a second, Source.
Starting point is 03:27:10 GameSpot has it. Let me take a look. Oh yeah? Let's see. Yeah, straight up. Yeah, here we go. 18 minutes ago. Ubisoft confirmed the cancellation of the early access during a Discord Q&A session.
Starting point is 03:27:20 Okay. straight up yeah here we go 18 minutes ago Ubisoft confirmed the cancellation of the early access during a discord Q&A session oh okay uhhh Consequently the price of the shadows collectors edition is dropping from 280 dollars to 230 dollars well that's pretty nice of them that's that's holy shit that's pretty nice of them That's That's very generous of them. I oh my god. I appreciate the $50 reduction. I Don't know about you. That's pretty cool
Starting point is 03:27:58 All right, well there you go, so yeah Again I just I feel like seasoning and and You know a little bit of salt and and just all these things are preparing This this this cut of meat To be acquired I did not think that the Japan Assassin's Creed game was going to be a Hail Mary I Assassin's Creed game was going to be a Hail Mary. I thought, we thought, we always talked about it, like 10 years back, it would be break glass in case of bad business,
Starting point is 03:28:32 here comes Assassin's Creed Japan. But like, it is simultaneous to like the fucking owners of the company talking about how they might go bankrupt. It is the Assassin's Creed in Japan game starring Yasuke. Like that's so what I wanted 20 years ago. And then they delayed it? I wanted nothing more than that 20 years ago. So they've delayed it, what, four months, five months now?
Starting point is 03:29:01 But more importantly than that, removing the early access means they delayed it by three days because they need three more days. Dude, that's months from now. This shit must be on fire. You ever go to break the glass and it just collapses because it's returned to being sand and dust? Well, you know what I'm thinking of? I'm thinking of going to break the glass and your fist splashing your shit all up and falling
Starting point is 03:29:32 over and having to go to the hospital. And now an artery is bleeding out. Well they waited so long that there is an existing game getting a sequel, which is their direct competitor. Like Ghost of Tsushima already exists. It doesn't just have to be better than the other Assassin's Creed games in Japan. It has to be better than this goddamn game that was held up by as a Japanese cultural touchstone in the island it was set, despite the fact it was made by people on the West Coast. I did see posts and stuff for people going, man, ghosts of Yotai have the opportunity to do something really funny.
Starting point is 03:30:16 You know, and just get them in there. I think the timing works out, actually. If like the time period, nobody actually works. actually. If? Like the time period. Novo Daga and stuff. I think it actually works. Yeah, maybe. Well, I mean there's always fucking the Neo bear version. You know? But yeah.
Starting point is 03:30:36 So we got, Like A Dragon is doing goddamn boats. And we've got we've got sucker punch doing Assassin's Creed in Japan. Like god damn did they wait too long. Like holy shit. Samurai Action Game is admittedly just this up there
Starting point is 03:30:58 and many people are going after the crown. But yeah, they just they just got there way too late, man. Incredible. Yeah, they just they just got their way too late man Incredible Well speaking of getting there too late and striking one of the irons cold brutal legend turned 15 and I
Starting point is 03:31:19 Wonder if the fan of the show rigs theie, guy who talks up brutal legend every podcast, is here today. For some reason, even though we brought it up a minute ago, it has come into discussions because they spoke to the Double Fine about it, those the community rep and Tim Schafer about Brutal Legend II. And he had something to say. He said, people ask about Brutal Legend II all the time. That's not true.
Starting point is 03:31:54 I believe that, that's fine, no, I believe that. People ask about Brutal Legend II all the time, and I'm torn about that. I know some of them want it with an evolution of the RTS stuff and some of them want just God of War. See, I paused a little bit because I was hoping you would go, that's not true after the RTS stuff sentence. Yeah. But it didn't happen. Some of them just want God of War with Eddie Riggs.
Starting point is 03:32:22 I would say that's a sizable portion of people. Right? Now this makes sense. I would say that's a significant degree of brutal legends players. Now I understand the logic in making the second option, but I am much more excited about the first. Fucking. Fucking.
Starting point is 03:32:44 You fucking. much more excited about the first. Fucking... Fucking... You fucking... Tim Schafer motherfucker! Oh my god! Double down and double fine baby! The RTS farts! Yeah! The game that everyone thought they were getting.
Starting point is 03:33:00 No! I'm not gonna do that! I'm not gonna do that! I'm not gonna do that! Yeah! The game that everyone thought they were getting. No, Bowie! I mean, shit. That's great. That's great.
Starting point is 03:33:19 I appreciate that. You know what it probably is? What it probably is is that They don't know how to make a game that doesn't feel like shit to control Like double fine is great for ideas and tone and like whimsy But like their games all feel like shit See I and if they made a God of War game of that style, it would probably be terrible. See, I disagree. I just think they're uncompromising and unflinching in the vision. And I think the commitment to quadrupling down on the RTS is dude, Psychonauts
Starting point is 03:34:00 sucks. I'm going to fucking put my foot out there and fucking throw your tomatoes. Psychonauts sucks. I'm gonna fucking put my foot out there and fucking throw your tomatoes Psychonauts is a fucking terrible game It's fucking awful. It's fucking it feels like shit. I Didn't play soco nuts too, so I wouldn't be able to say Psychonauts one is is fucking you move around and you're just like We woke up and we chose violence today. That's is fucking, you move around and you're just like, eww. So we woke up and we chose violence today. That's...
Starting point is 03:34:28 I, hey! I see. Don't you calmly pack me under this bus, I'll throw you under there as well. I remember there was supposed to be a Psychonauts LP that got abandoned, cause you guys were both like, eww. It was were both like It was going rough It was going rough. There was an attempt. I feel I feel like I
Starting point is 03:34:55 Feel like that would have been a game that like kind of like brutal legend now you'd be like or even um VVM What's that with the one of the two kids the costume quest no no no no a broken yeah yeah yeah where it's one of those ones where you're like you know thinking about it in retrospect it's like okay story art style characters world dialogue great setting characters, world, dialogue, great! Setting, great! I love it! And yeah, and then there's yeah yeah yeah that's the double fine promise you look at the trailers you're like wow that looks so exciting and then you get to play it and you're like Goku toys are fun to play with I want to play with my toys That's that's it. Don't don't don't worry about the versus mode shut up
Starting point is 03:35:59 Yeah No, I Couldn't I couldn't I couldn't speak too much on it, to be honest. But I do know that at least as far as brutal legend goes, it's like if they tried to get in, like. Yeah, no. OK, yeah, I know. I have a new wrinkle to throw in there.
Starting point is 03:36:36 I'm trying to work the angle. OK, OK. All right. All right. So Double Fine starts making Brutal Legend 2. First part, very important, have to get the soundtrack right. It's vital. It's the single most important thing about the game. Soundtrack has to be right. So what do they do? They upfront buy the rights to this, this, this,
Starting point is 03:36:57 this, this, this, this, and that, get all the soundtrack. Then they start to work on it. And just like every project they've made in the past like 10 years, they run out of money halfway through. Broken Age and Psychonauts 2, they just made them shit and ran out of money. The only reason those games got fucking funded and finished is because Microsoft bought them And we know how Microsoft feels putting money into non-surf fire hits now While I couldn't speak to it myself a lot of folks are saying that Psychonauts 2 was really good Yeah, no, I it's the one I haven't played
Starting point is 03:37:41 People are saying it controls. Well, if that's the case, I'm very interested. But I feel the movement in Psychonauts 1 just made me just turn it off immediately. I was like, no, thank you. Yeah. But there's always like, with each of these things, I'm thinking back on them, like, oh, but there was like charm in these cool little things. Oh absolutely Double Fine is defined by their charm. Like Costume Quest is a really boring
Starting point is 03:38:15 RPG that came out on Xbox Live Arcade but it was really charming. I didn't think it was I was charmed! I was charmed, yes, I was charmed. With all of these. You were filled with whimsy. With all of these games. It was cute. I am charmed by all of these games, yes. That's basically the deal.
Starting point is 03:38:35 That's where it stands. But it is super true that we tried to LP it and we got a couple hours in and it was rough. I will say though, there's a different problem with brutal legend 2 and the problem is is the number way you the number one way you advertise your game nowadays is the person talking right now or the person I'm talking to right now is you throw that at people like us and you have them stream it. And Brutal Legend specifically has a very, very, very big problem with being streamed. So, yeah, if you now here's the thing, Hi-Fi Rush and Guardians of the Galaxy skirt this by
Starting point is 03:39:19 having original awesome music that makes those moments, I know, like possible by having like just good enough original music, however, brutal legends. Wait a second, I'll wait, no, no, before we even get there, Hi-Fi Rush did an excellent job. I prefer most of the new compositions over the original songs. There's a couple that I think the original original songs like the licensed tracks are better, but overall I actually prefer to play on the original soundtrack. Guardians of the Galaxy just
Starting point is 03:39:54 goes dead-ass silent on half the times a licensed music is supposed to play. There is original music for a bunch of it, but there's like sequences in which there's no music at all. Oh yeah? Okay, I- At all. So when it, like, yeah, when I was hearing about that game and specifically for like streaming it and LPing purposes, I was, I remember being like, hearing those, like, it's got a really great original soundtrack if you have to turn the license-
Starting point is 03:40:18 It does. It absolutely does. But when you do like a chase section in the early game- There's just not enough of it. It's supposed to be like, there's just nothing. Gotcha. Okay. And it feels really weird and awful. Okay. Well in either way the point I was getting at is that none of that works for Brutal Legend where it's like the actual, it's Lemmy, look it's actually him. You know the point of the motorhead thing doesn't work if you're hearing, listening to Hordermed, you know?
Starting point is 03:40:46 I feel like Hi-Fi Rush is actually as close as what almost anyone ever wanted out of Brutal Legend. Like the tone of, like, it's not metal, right? It's just general rock and pop and whatnot, but like, that's what I kind of wanted out of Brutal Legend all that time ago. Yeah, I mean, honestly, any game, any kind of thing that's like even if you work with a band on, you know, and it's real, it's got it's got like a licensed music or whatever. This is just like it's a streaming platform fucking problem.
Starting point is 03:41:24 It sucks. You know, there's just it's a garbage system that doesn't allow exceptions for even when the rights holders give the okay, because people get fucking takedowns on their own shit. This is something where we're describing obviously a niche problem that we have doing this particular job, but if Twitch and YouTube got better at this, then it would not be a problem. So here's a really good example, right? Paige is playing New Vegas this week on Wednesday. Come see it. And Paige wants to listen to the fucking radio in that game because that's like a very significant
Starting point is 03:41:57 part of playing a modern style Fallout game. So we've been hemming and hawing about what to do about that, and the solution we've reached at is catch it live! Watch that shit live! Because we can't guarantee how much or how little of those streams will be muted. So, there is a really complicated system you can implement. I mean, okay, mine is probably the most complicated because I literally simultaneously record a second source.
Starting point is 03:42:29 Yeah, you have the most complicated setup. But there is a way that OBS can do a local recording that mutes the local game thing. The fucking game audio is muted. It plays on stream live, but you get a version that is safely removing that track for... Anyway, whatever, you can jump through a bunch of... Yeah, but it would still remove all the game audio from... So it would be Paige sitting there watching people talk for minutes at a time... If you're gonna watch it after the fact, would suck. Yes a million percent. It's kind of you know as I'm talking about this now
Starting point is 03:43:05 I'm kind of realizing like Think about how much more effort I mean in high-fiber rushes case it worked out But think about how much more work it it has All these games doing to create an original soundtrack to get around this problem because the problem has been there for so long it's been there for the entire generation and then some and like This the solution would be for twitch and YouTube to get their shit together Right and for no and for DMCA to actually and for DC man to know know I don't want to It's hard
Starting point is 03:43:40 I was about to go why the file I just did the same thing to you I was about to go why the file I just did the same thing to you With you why not god damn it Yes, okay, and literally yeah, I don't want to have to do it I got upset. All right. Yeah. No, you just fixed that, and now games don't have to fucking create a second soundtrack entirely. Oh my god. All right.
Starting point is 03:44:19 Isn't this fun? The argument is so childlike that you can just you can hear them saying it you can hear them no standing there fucking in Congress just going no no I don't want to do it Universal music group and fucking persona stars Russia whatever the fuck that was definitely very real extremely real reality TV show from Moscow persona stars Russia has claimed your video did Did it? Is that real? Yeah. Alright, let's take some letters. Hey, if you wanna send it a letter, send it to Castle Super Beast Mail at Gmail.com. That's Castle Super Beast Mail at Gmail.com.
Starting point is 03:45:32 Alright, we got one coming in here from Duke who says, Hey there, right and left hands of the Forbidden One. I like that. Are doors part of a room or between two rooms? Fuck off. Fuck off. This might seem like a silly question, however, I recently tried the new Destiny raid, and this became a humorous point of contention between the party as it spiraled into a faction war and multiple groups were, I lead, the doors are between a room's faction and everyone
Starting point is 03:45:59 else is saying a door is part of a room. So which is the right side of history? Doors are part of the wall. I agree with that, that's not wrong. Walls are not part of the room, the interior of the room is everything from the edge of the wall to the interior. Now you're fucking crazy.
Starting point is 03:46:17 I was following along? No, I think both rooms have the door and the door exists owned think both rooms have the door and the door exists owned by both rooms and each room has a door in it. And that's it. All right, you know what? You know what? And the door is connected. There's a way to split the middle.
Starting point is 03:46:36 There's a way to split the middle here. A door is part of the room that it opens into. No, because not every room opens or closes in that way. Some route, some doors are just a transitional space that goes both ways. It's not always then that room that that door is in both rooms. No, yeah, it is in both. Yes. Simultaneously. It's an a it's an a door superstate. Yes, doors can simultaneously exist between two
Starting point is 03:47:01 rooms. End of discussion. It's not that it's actually okay. So wait, hold on. Do we need, there's not gonna be a clarification in here. But are we talking about the physical door or like the frame? Cause like a door, when you swing it, like if I swing in my bedroom door into my bedroom, the door is literally inside the room. But are they talking about the door,
Starting point is 03:47:24 like the doorway or or the door? Okay, so they actually, there's photos of this part in Destiny. Oh, fucking send me the fucking photos. And then send me the photos. Okay, so there's a screenshot here. Let me see what the best way to do this would be. And it's a screenshot of a Discord conversation where the OP is saying, I refuse to believe
Starting point is 03:47:53 what I said was crazy. Encounter one of new raid. You told me to look for something in the center of in you looked at you told me to look for something in the center room. And I got confused because I was supposed to be looking at the doors and not what was in the room itself. So we have some, the dispute was over where the person was supposed to look. Here is the screenshot in question. I definitely need this screenshot really bad.
Starting point is 03:48:23 Okay. I definitely need this screenshot really bad. Uh... Okay. Let me see if I can find a way to pull this up for people. Oh! Do you understand what you're looking at? The circle is for the area in question. So... That...
Starting point is 03:48:43 Oh, hmm. So, just discussing it as a topic. The one on the the left is a door the one on the right is a hallway Okay, so just discussing it as a as a topic just conceptual door right Yeah, there you go because these are door frames these don't swing out, so we're talking about doorways, okay? um I So we're talking about doorways. Okay. I think that the concept of the door is attached to both rooms, and if you had to draw an atomic invisible divider
Starting point is 03:49:14 between the two spaces, a door is a liminal space, but it still exists as a property of both rooms. I have no problem with that classification as a whole. Now as to the language telling the person where to look, well you can fucking be more precise with your language. Okay, I think I figured out a solution that'll make everybody happy.
Starting point is 03:49:36 I genuinely think I have. Stop playing Destiny 2. Okay. There you have it. Stop it. Dis you have it. Stop it. Dispute solved. Thank you. We got one coming in from Weenie who says,
Starting point is 03:49:57 hello, shout out versus and angry stares at. Hey man. So, hypothetical, okay, mainly directed at Willy here, but hypothetical scenario where you decided to play Nocturne, HD. Which version do you play? On the one hand, you recently experienced Raito Kusanoha and you know him as the new hotness from that LP.
Starting point is 03:50:19 On the other hand, Dante from the Devil May Cry series is so iconic for this crossover so specifically it would be a shame to not experience it. Hypothetically what would you pick? The new version on PC has the ability to choose your skills when you fuse. I mean heart defaults Dante but Raito is fucking rad so I would want to see the difference in both characters and what they played like and what they could do. Like just in case for some reason, Raito played and was way better than Dante as a party member.
Starting point is 03:50:58 I think they're the same. I think they're exactly the same. But holy shit, like Dante just is the default pick. Unless Raito can sell me I'll pull me off of that. You know I can be convinced. I'm open to discussion, but I'm defaulting to Dante And yes, there is the part where Raito does belong in that world a bit better. You know a little bit Is there a mod to get both how long give me
Starting point is 03:51:28 a second can you just fucking give me a minute yeah give me one minute you just literally best of both worlds Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne HD remax maniacs pack for 1349 relive the original version adds a mode where Raido Kuzunoha is replaced by none other than Dante of Devil May Cry fame. Well then they just play with both. You can only select this mode when starting a new game. Okay, well then yeah. We get some fucking mods out, and you don't make me choose shit. How about that?
Starting point is 03:52:09 Oh, this is an official DLC. You don't even need to mod it. But you have to pick one of the two. Yeah, that's right. But I'm saying get a mod going and now you just get both. I don't think that works like that. You can't tell me what to do. It's a direct replacement.
Starting point is 03:52:23 They're the same character. It's just the visual is different. Don't say no. What are you, Atlas? Am I about to fucking yell at you as the living or kind of a smart? We don't besmirch our fucking benevolent benefactor, amazing company, Atlaslas in this podcast anymore they are good friends and we love them game of the year metaphor every year just keep re-releasing it never took too long to release the thing that everybody wanted on PC ever
Starting point is 03:53:00 no they definitely didn't all right last one from Q says, Hey Big W. God damn it, just threatened them at fucking Vanillaware to fucking put 13 sentinels on a computer. Hey Big W and Little P, over the years I got to listen to a bunch of potential rosters for MVC 4, but your commitment to CVC made me interested. Yes, there was a whole bit about that because everyone was doing their magical Marvel roster. And I said, I had a little clip where I said, you don't want me to bum you out. Because my answer to that is to take the Marvel half and dump it in the trash.
Starting point is 03:53:36 Throat right in the trash. And then Reggie went, so you put the gauntlet on and just... Yeah. Yeah, you know, it was great. So if it did happen and you made your fan roster or whatever, what would your weirdo pick be, right? So it's like, okay, we don't have to do the whole thing, but just what's your weirdo pick for a Capcom versus Capcom? I have two answers that I feel like cover your base
Starting point is 03:54:00 as well here. I think Hakan in hyper Marvel kind of form would be interesting. Oh yeah, permanently oiled. Or oiled and extra oiled makes him insane. I think it could be a fun thing to explore. See the thing is that I wouldn't say Gene from Godhand is a weirdo pick because that's just an awesome cool pick. So you'd want, if we're talking about freak weirds, you know? I have two picks.
Starting point is 03:54:33 Okay. I have another two as well. Number one would be Missile. Yep, sure. From Ghost Trick. Interesting. I was actually, I was wondering if there was a way to get like, dog in there, like, RE dog or, yeah,
Starting point is 03:54:48 or you know, Phoenix Wright missile even anyway. He's the best dog. And my ultimate weirdo pick as a straight up joke character who is objectively terrible and who sucks, I would nominate Keiji in a fune Agey can a fune Yeah, a G. Can a fune's And he's he's dressed up in like the rags of bad box art Mega Man When he dies he fades away to zero, but then like he fades back in with his ass up
Starting point is 03:55:27 away to zero but then like he fades back in with his ass up on the ground no he's got okay okay no no no he's got he's got bad box art Mega Man but the the the suit is down so it's like around his waist like in his is he's naked from the waist up and he's got an American flag on his back. Eiji Kinofune. I think that's a slam dunk. I think Dr. Wily having to jump into dumb robots and flip out beams and guns and shit could be fun. Kind of like the way Arthur jumps around. And I think something creative could be done with an enemy that is just literally a pack
Starting point is 03:56:09 of zombies. I think it would be so fun to have a character that was just- Like the enemy is the T-virus? It is the virus. And a pack of zombies are attacking, but they can shoot, they can regroup and get bigger. A dog can rush out. A licker can jump out sometimes. And you just- Honestly, you could probably,
Starting point is 03:56:29 this is really similar to Jill's Marvel- So Jill is like, they come out and chase after her, yeah. But I mean, you're playing as the virus infecting and coming out. And you gotta- It bums me out. You gotta hit it. Because Jill in MVC to has tons of
Starting point is 03:56:45 love put into that character it's unique assets and she's got tons of shit and she sucks so bad but it's real cool when Tyrant jumps out it's is really cool when Tyrant jumps out yeah fucking crows and leeches and all of it just part of this one group of enemies that you can play as. I think that would be a lot of fun. Alright. There you go. Stop playing Destiny 2.

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