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["Sailor Moon Theme"] Hello. Hey, Wully, how you doing?
What's up?
How's your back?
It's doing better.
Fantastic.
Yep, definitely doing better.
And I have an amazing band.
I'm going to be playing with them.
I'm going to be playing with them. What's up? How's your back? It's doing better. Fantastic. Yep, definitely doing better.
And I have a... yeah, basically the...
Yeah, I'm waiting to see if OBS is doing the thing it did last time.
Oh, I'm delayed again!
Huh.
Woo woo!
Huh.
You're not... it's not a muting thing, but it's some weird issue that OBS has just decided
to do.
I'm not going to do it.
I'm going to do it.
I'm going to do it.
I'm going to do it.
I'm going to do it.
I'm going to do it.
I'm going to do it.
I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. Huh. Woo woo! Huh. You're not, it's not a muting thing, but it's some weird issue that OBS has just decided
to start doing.
I'm desynced.
You start desynced and then you resync eventually, right?
That seems to me.
Yes I do.
Okay.
Um.
That's a weird one.
It's a weird one.
It's a weird one that, that.
Are you just doing like display capture?
Or like? It's the, no. It's a weird one that...
Are you just doing like display capture?
It's the exact same setup it has been for years.
I've changed my mic to like my gain and stuff.
I've put more...
Yeah, but that wouldn't...
Yeah, I've put some better filtering on so the peaking won't be as bad as it used to
be, but that has nothing to do with
the video
All right. I've also changed my lighting and yeah
I can tell I've done I've changed some some stuff behind me as well, but none of this is
Yeah, okay. Well, are you synced now that we've stalled for time? Oh, I don't know. Am I I think you should be
That's crazy. Let's make sure. Let's- Oh my goodness. What an exciting adventure. Nope, I'm not. Okay. You know what? Just go
to Be Right Back and come right back and see what happens. Okay. Am I synced now?
Oh man, it's gotta be an OBS bit.
It's gotta be an OBS bit.
It's gotta be OBS, not even close?
Alright, turn that shit off, let's start off.
Alright, well, BRB for the video, audio will keep going.
Bye bye now.
Audio's here. Um, y'all this this shit is
no no the audio is the desynced part but but but I mean but it's like it's
through OBS in particular that this this oh yeah comes up obviously our
conversations fine right now in discord I guess so oh my goodness you know but
just don't even put this part
into the home version. No, I'm super keeping it in for the home version. Oh yeah? I did
last time as well and I'm super keeping it in. Oh that's great. It's the secret, it's
a little secret cast in the middle of the cast. I don't know how you would even test
this. Well ultimately whatever, we're back live now. Oh, we are!
I sure am!
And I imagine it's totally not scuffed anymore.
I can't see that shit on my end.
It's totally going to be great.
It's super good.
I'm sure it's great right now.
Yeah.
Yeah, perfect.
Not a problem.
Not a problem. Not a problem. Alright, so I'm...
Aw, apparently...
Apparently, it's still scuffed.
The last couple of times we had to restart OBS, if I remember correctly.
That's what I just did.
You...
No, what?
The whole OBS?
Yep, I shut and restart OBS in that...
Oh, you're gonna have to restart the whole computer, brother!
Alright.
Aw, yeah!
Aw, sick! Alright. You're gonna have to restart the whole computer brother all right
Oh sick all right
Actual BRB for real big big big big BBRB
Shabam that's live. That's back. That's live. I'm back. Hello, and you are synced. I'm synced now
Yeah Synchronized.
You can pre-wash me.
Synchronized.
Because I'm going into the sink.
Hey, there you are.
That sucked.
That's terrible.
But at least it happened at the same time as your video.
So good.
All right.
So how's your back? Yes. So it's improved a good bit. And yeah, you know, physio, physiotherapy exercises,
you know, less and less of the straps and drugs needed as time has gone on. I've, you
know, been able to able to go like,
hmm, how long can I go without needing a re-up? And you test the boundaries a bit and yeah,
no, it's improved quite a bit. It still is basically at a point where too much in the same
position feels like it activates and a couple of twists, you know, twists and turns here and there, we'll get it going. Similarly, like, so this chair, I can chill
in, you know, and it's not as much the couch, I feel a time limit.
This is a Herman Miller, right?
This is a Herman Miller I'm sitting on currently. Yeah, exactly. So I'm feeling a time limit
on things. But yeah, no, it feels as if like, okay, from here on
out, I'm just going to have to keep up the strengthening stuff. But the majority of the
moment to moment pain is gone. And I'm super happy and thankful that that was the case.
And that was a lot quicker than I was originally fearing.
They were a lot faster than last time. Yes. Last time was, you know, yeah, that's terrifying.
So no, no, that's, that's, it's good.
It's cool.
Um.
Well, I'm glad, man.
Thank you.
And yeah, then, you know, time to not let that shit ever happen again.
And yeah, so in terms of-
No more jumping ever again.
Well, fuck.
Yeah.
No, if anything, it's like time to make my core ridiculous.
Time to get that fucking insane super middle going so that the strength is...
So that I'm ready for title defense mode, you know?
So I don't know if this was pointed out to you, Woolly, but there's actually an incredible
continuity over the last couple of weeks of podcasts.
Yeah, I did see the hilarious bit from, was it Hattock or so, where it was like, hey,
I found a new way to sleep.
Check out my pillow, guys. I sleep on it and it's
pretty great.
And I'm like, I don't know if this is a good idea. Let's check in next week with how you're
feeling.
Yeah. And there you go. You know, there's a lot of things we can point towards, we can
point fingers at. You know, is the pillow one of them?
I don't know, I doubt it, but who's to say?
Even if it is, it would be like minor at best.
But it is, there is a continuity that we can draw there.
Yeah, yeah.
But no, the goal at this point in time is to get a fucking eight pack and
then nothing can ever hurt my lower back again.
But that's on the front.
Well, it's core.
It's all it's the middle.
It's the whole middle.
The whole middle gets tough.
The whole middle.
The whole middle gets tough.
I know I got a tough middle.
Hit me with a baseball bat in here I wouldn't feel nothing damn you're
protecting these organs sir you ever see um Chico the the like conditioned
breathing or like you just get your someone just punches your stomach like
80 times and you just kind of like you take, you take it. You're like, oh, you know, it's a
wild shit. But you know, I don't need I don't I mean, we'll get there for now. I'll settle
for can I skip a rope? Yeah, two times. I left both feet off the ground a couple inches
without lightnings shooting in my body. That's, you know, basic simple baby steps.
But yeah, so
I did
take the time to, besides kind of like adjust
some sound setup, lighting setup and things
around here, lighting set up and things around here.
Um, I sat down and put some work into metaphor refantasio.
Metaphor refantasio, out now on the Xbox.
I don't know if it's out on anything else.
I can't say for sure whether it's out on anything else.
You can't say for sure whether it's out on anything else You can't say for sure
It may or may not be
But it's definitely know what a not Xbox is it's definitely out on
Microsoft PC and Xbox and that is like the funniest thing
All right, hey, I don't know what kind of backroom deals have to be made.
I know exactly what backroom deal is.
Microsoft agreed to handle their advertising.
Let me rephrase.
I don't know why these kind of backroom deals, but you know.
It seems like a stupid, stupid deal.
But hey, none of that matters because the game is very fun and it's very good and I have enjoyed it
Where yeah, so progress wise I have just completed the necromancer dungeon. That's a good dungeon
and the first thing that I
want to bring to to
attention call attention to is...
I know that this is a much more recognizable kind of fantasy setting. And we also know that the
persona and SMT games are known for their music. And you've talked about how fucking solid it is.
I am like jaw a fucking gape at how awesome the music is in a lot of these instances.
So in particular, right, you have to go well, all right, the velvet room theme. What the
this has been so good that it's become a staple of the entire franchise that you've stuck
to. How the fuck are you going to compete with that? How dare you even think about competing with that by bringing some new shit into the
equation? That's nuts. That's insane. That thing is so good that it amplifies why three is as good
as it is. That theme in particular. The fucking academia theme, man. Oh, it's like we take, so like perfect example.
I've been, when I've been playing it,
Punch Mom has heard that music playing in,
you know, throughout the house and whatever in the background
and came up and was just like,
so are you at like the final boss or something?
Like what are you playing here, you know? And I was like, oh yeah, it's the new thing that's P6 but not P6 and stuff. It's like, so are you at like the final boss or something? Like what are you playing here, you know?
And I was like, oh yeah, it's the new thing
that's P6 but not P6 and stuff.
And he's like, yeah.
I'm like, right.
I'm just chilling with more.
Yeah, and I'm like, so that, that's not the final boss theme.
That's the new Velvet Room theme.
And she's like, oh.
And I'm like, yeah, because you're gonna hear it a lot,
so it better be fucking good, you know?
The entire concept of we're gonna take something
as good as a finale and just drop it immediately
in front of you
What a good idea. What a great idea man. It swells it builds and like
Listening to it on loop. I have no issues whatsoever because of just how
fantastical it is
so
There is a specific problem with that piece of music,
like explicitly that one piece of music.
And that is on like more second upgrade,
you can do all your archetype stuff
without going to see him.
I was about to bring that up.
So I was about to bring that up. I was about to bring that up.
And it's to say, because I was like, and I just got the thing
that says you don't have to go visit him as much as you used to.
And it's like, and you're like, I wonder how often I'm going to go see more.
Once I got that upgrade, I think I saw more like 10.
Oh, man. OK. OK. I was worried about that. Oh man, okay, okay.
I was worried about that.
Dude, you never go back.
Because sometimes you'd, at night,
like I'm thinking of an average P game,
and like you'd go to sleep and just get pulled
into the velvet room for random reasons, you know?
Yeah, all the time.
There's scenes happening, you know,
Igor's got shit going on, or the twins,
or the attendant,
whatever.
But yeah, here I guess you'd go back to either read entries on the new archetypes you get,
and to finish his quests and pet the cat, right?
That's it?
Pretty much.
Well, there's a couple minor features that unlock about halfway through the game in there But like you go in do them and leave and then they're done for hours
Well, I'm not gonna say I don't want quality of life because yeah walking around and changing for okay
First of all, I do have to say changing archetypes. Why is that buried in the equipment menu?
That's an odd place you can do it through the archetype menu also.
Okay, so early on, when before you have the archetype menu.
Yeah, you have to do it through equipment.
Yeah, and I was kind of going like,
why is there not an archetype thing here?
And it's just, I guess it's not there yet
until you get the, yeah.
Yeah, no, when you get the ability to go
to the archetype menu on Triangle on the main menu,
you just
start changing through that.
But initially it took a second for me because I couldn't find where to change archetypes.
I'm like, there's no way.
Yeah, it's a fucking item.
Yeah, it's listed amongst your equipment.
It's fucking weird.
So I was like, that's baffling.
And then also there's no quick D-pad button to go straight to that screen.
You hit left to go to your items, you hit to take on to go to your then to go to all the other
Ones, you know, but you just don't you don't go straight there. But anyway, um
Yeah, I have a question for you about metaphor
Okay, you're at the end of the first big big dungeon like proper timed
calendared done proper calendared dungeon
What is?
the stat distribution
for your man
Your main man. Okay, so when I started I chose I
When I when they asked me what kind of person I was at the recruitment. I said I'm pretty lucky
Yeah, so I had a massive luck boost which not not typically what I go with, but fuck it.
Whatever.
Let's see what happens.
So those little teeth shitheads will tell you how all the stats work throughout the
game.
And they're all good.
They're all good.
Luck is literally a skill. The question here is that it's what it describes
the benefits as is item discovery, right?
Yeah, it also affects your critical rate.
Huh.
With physical attacks.
Interesting, well I don't do it.
It also affects how fast you recover from statuses
and if you get affected by statuses and if you get affected by statuses
and if you affect others with statuses.
Okay.
Critting I don't see often because I'm not using regular attack that often.
Oh no, crits can happen on all physical type attacks.
All the warrior skills can crit.
Okay. All the warrior skills can crit Okay But that is to say like yeah, mostly doing skills and I'm mostly seeing I'm mostly doing weaknesses
You know, so there's not many opportunities for a non one more
Action to occur, you know
Physical attackers like strength builds luck is is is very very appreciated because every crit is another half turn
Yeah, so once I got brawler I saw that kind of come into handy once or twice with the yeah
With the fists and that was pretty sick
Interesting seeing the pace of a dungeon in this game versus, you know persona and and SMT
because They don't use talked about this, right?
They don't force you to do it all in one day, nor now, and I know from what you said about
the way the calendar works, do you feel the pressure because days are not wasted, right?
Days can't be wasted unless you fucking go way out of your
way to do something weird. But that inner min maxer wants to not waste calendar days
at where they can be spared and wants to have as many extra days to do things as possible.
And so you're like, okay, in order to do that, how do you take on these dungeons? P three four or five
SMT like all of it. It's always been well SMT is different but in the in those games. I've one shot the dungeons
Pretty much consistently the entire time across all of those games. Oh, yeah, it's gone
I think the the one that always gets me is
P5's
Kamashita Castle is really long to one shot
at that part of the game.
Yeah.
Ark, right?
Yeah, the goal of putting these calendar dates there has always been like, yeah, you have
some time to chip away at it, But no one does that, right?
Or I don't know if people do, but I know you don't.
I know no one I know that plays it does.
All of the people, everyone I know that plays these games
just goes pam one day, and then you free up two weeks
to do all your activities.
Because you want to get all your bonuses from those things,
right?
In this case, they're like, you will go to sleep or
you will struggle.
So, the only way to one-shot that dungeon is if you formerly beat the optional Guptaros dungeon. Because the optional Guptaros dungeon is way harder but shorter than the main story dungeon.
And if you do that and you go into the Necromancer dungeon, then this is what happened to me.
For the first 50-60% of that dungeon, enemies won't be able to hurt you or attack you you'll just one-shot them instantly
So you don't spend anything yeah, okay?
So when I went in there I really only had to fight the second half of that dungeon
Now the interesting part about what you're saying here is to get to that that Gupturus dungeon first
You have to get your wisdom up which takes a couple days
Yeah, and then you have to go your wisdom up, which takes a couple days,
and then you have to go clear that. So you're spending days on other things anyway, which
means you can't go day one straight to that original dungeon and blast through it.
You probably do it, but it's hard.
So what I think you can do is pick mage and then go to the fountains and just
You sure can!
And stand there, right?
You sure can!
But that's not going to refill your team, that's just going to refill you, right?
That's going to refill the team.
Oh, the whole team? Okay, so yeah.
The whole team.
So then that's it. You can do it the slow, prodding way.
I know what you're thinking. You're thinking it only regenerates one MP per attack or kill.
That would take a while, but it's really, really, really going to take a while once
your characters have double, triple the MP. And that's where metaphors like pacing comes in really really interestingly every dungeon has a
different core timeline structure so like the first dungeon the one that you
just did yeah is a persona five castle but persona five like what's it? Yeah those calls
Palace palace palace yeah, right
Some of them are not like that at all
Okay, like it like at all okay, and
The game the game moves
like the game flip-flops between you should do everything you
possibly can before doing the final dungeon sorry before doing the story
dungeon or bang the dungeon out immediately and then have free time and
it flip-flops between the two places now I ultimately I know that you're supposed
to have freedom with this so it's all on you, the player, to determine like, well, what are you okay with?
And I was like, I hit a point where I was like, where am I?
What floor am I at?
Where is this going?
And I was like, all right, you know what?
I've stretched it far enough.
Let me go take a nap and I'll come back and do it in two. And I did, came back on the next day and switched to a low MP efficiency setup, which I found
to be pretty solid by having two brawlers and then one healer up top.
And then the healer just focuses on putting their life back in place as they spend HP
to do damage, right? It works as long as the enemies you're fighting are
susceptible to those attack types. And I noticed, and that's something as well that's really
interesting here is like the switch ups from area to area are like, like I had to do full
team architect, archetype restructures as you enter like a new floor where it's like,
yeah, the thing you were expressly just doing does not work here. Switch it all up again.
You know? Yeah. So the, the first like half of the game, you're like, Oh, this shit doesn't
work. Oh, I got nothing going on here. I'm going to switch it up to this. But then as
your number of archetypes increases and your like
inherit skill goes up, you find yourself being able to create characters that
can cover like this entire quadrant of the diagram and this quadrant of the
diagram and this and this and this. So that's my I'm really hoping that we
speed up the inherited skills because yeah ultimately I want to focus in on a favorite type and
like push it but the feeling I'm getting or like right off the bat here in this early
game is like we do not want you to sit on one.
Even in Stole's case where I'm like, oh, his default warrior is set up is pretty good. But like
it was halfway through the Necromancer dungeon was like, and time to switch that out. You
know, so finger race, there is I've described it before, but now that you're in it, you
have like a better like grasp on it like the feel. Yes. I am going to call metaphors experience system a democratic
experience system.
So I have gotten to a point actually I got to this point like
on Dungeon 3 where stroll was on I think was on warrior, but he
might be on his other like major archetype where I'm like, I think it was on Warrior, but he might be on his other major archetype,
where I'm like, I'm happy with Stroll.
Stroll can just stay like this forever.
He is reliable, he is solid, he is good.
I am just gonna use him to feed
the other character's experience.
Okay.
Feed the other characters experience, okay
and When I wanted to change stroll to something different I had two other characters that were now in his place where I'm like
I'm very happy with this class. Okay, very happy with this setup. You guys are now going to feed stroll your
Your ex like your extra experience.
Okay.
And so like, yeah, no, if you find something
that really, really works and you have the inherited skills
that work out well for you, you could roll that forever
and just use that person as an experience battery.
Something else that's interesting too is like, I remember sometimes going into, again, earlier
Persona games with a team that was like, okay, I'll make sure that I have a couple of different
demons that have, that can target a good half of the weaknesses or so.
Yeah, you want the weakness roll charge.
You want the whole thing.
The idea here of being like, okay, well, you can't cover it all, but here's some little
things you can do to supplement that. One of them is the mage skills, where you get
mage wind or mage electricity or mage fire.
Oh, the...
Accessory.
The accessories, yeah.
You put on the character. Igniters.
Exactly, right?
And it's like, okay, so that'll supplement and give you a nice thing where I'm like,
great, I wanted Hama on Hulkenberg.
Or you want a full party heal on the character when you don't have access to it.
But the trade-off there is you're spending double the MP on those casts.
And you're losing your accessory spot.
Yes, true, true, true.
So it's like how badly do you want to round out your ability to take on the weakness
chart?
You know what you could do, right?
You could just wait until you get to the part of the dungeon where you just auto kill people
and just get a little bit more archetype XP. I mean, I, yeah, yeah.
And I did spend one or two of the little
collectible pocket ones just for like, you know,
getting me to the places I wanted to go.
But what I eventually hit was as I was,
I really wanted to do it in two.
And I was getting to the like final scraps of my MP,
pushing up that staircase to the Necromancer.
And I was like, I think I can do this.
I'm using HP, Brawler spells mostly.
It's okay.
That boss is fairly difficult.
But you wander into like one kind of room past this point.
And the shit in there is like not only does what you have not work, but like you better
just quit and reload your save right now because you're like the fucking humans in here are
going to just fuck you up.
Like you have nothing on their weaknesses and they have everything on you essentially.
So it's like right right this is the the the press turn the
press first famine feast or famine means now on famine yeah and it's like I'm
just gonna like I literally just reload your safe like I'm don't even don't
even try to play but it forced me to then go rest a second time and I was like,
motherfucker, three days? Oh, and that felt bad. I was like, I hate wait,
I'm like three days is too much. You know, but I'm like, I guess that's what
this game is doing. It's actually telling you you're going to use the
calendar.
I, I will tell you something. So, particularly since you started with luck,
once you get out of that major story dungeon,
you're gonna really wanna do that thing for Brigida.
Because you will unlock the solution
to every numerical part of that game.
Okay. Like that.
Okay.
And that game will change
and your interaction with that game's schedule
will change as a result.
Here's something, here's a heaping amount of praise
I wanna put on the overworld as
well.
When you are running around town in Japan and you're deciding whether to go play baseball
or take a hot dip or hang out with a whatever, a shogi player. These are all activities that you push here and you get your stats from a you know whatever I'm a shogi player
Yeah, these are all activities that you push here, and you get your stats from and you know what hey shogi players cute So that's fine, but you know all right other activities whatever
In this game in this fantasy setting when you run by a dude who's like hey
Do you want to hear about why everyone hates my race and treats me like shit?
Yeah, actually I would be really interested in hearing.
Yeah, and it's like, oh, this will raise your tolerance.
I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't care.
I want to know about the lore.
And I'm like, all the little things going on that are like time spend activities, with
the exception perhaps of like people watching, every other thing going on with something
like that.
A lot of them are really good.
There's one of the towns where you can go bungee jumping.
Oh, wow. OK, OK.
And everybody but it's not bungee jumping.
It's like, hey, you want to look cool and just jump off this cliff of the rope.
You'll look fucking build up some followers.
Yeah, nice.
Get increase your fucking follower count.
But I just I found that like all the
activity decisions were
really good ones because it wasn't even the reward as much as it was like the
thing you got for the activity itself or whatever it was lore wise was
interesting to me and I'm like damn I do want to spend my time hearing
about this story of old or whatever else is going on in this land. I want to
know more you know. It's a pretty good proposition for your time.
So I have two more pro tips for you that will help you in your brain. Number one is there
are some of those stat up events that are time limited or on specific days, so they
happen quite often. Starting at the second town, you know that podium out in front of
About in front of the Cathedral where people are hanging out. Yeah, yeah, go hang out. Yeah. Yeah, so every town has one of those
Mm-hmm, and
sometimes
You can check that out and another candidate will be on there and you can debate them in front of the crowd
Oh sick. Okay. Oh, yeah, and it gives you a huge
Amount of points, but only if you win.
Okay, okay. Yeah.
And the second thing is I have been informed over and over, yeah, you should not worry
too much about time.
Okay. I'm right now on track to be ending the game with something like 15 to 25
extra days. I saw someone say they beat the game with weeks to spare. Yeah. Yeah. I
find that... I'm at the point of the game where I've unlocked every bond.
I have one stat away from being maxed out.
I'm looking at the amount of days on the calendar left and I'm like, I'm totally going to be
able to do all of it with weeks to fucking spare.
No problem. Okay.
Okay.
Something else that was interesting too is like as I was initially setting up those,
the builds with everybody and doing the transferring of skills and archetypes, I was getting like
kind of mag starved and I was like, ah shit, okay.
And I was like, I guess-
That does happen.
Yes.
Yeah.
And I was like running back and I'm like, okay, one, is there a fast way to just run
back to the statue and collect my daily, you know, mag?
And I was like, I guess you got to teleport and surf over to it.
But then, obviously, completing, you know, a dungeon.
I was like, oh, fuck, overflowing tons of it. Right.
Now, for now, is there a.
Yeah. So that's kind of the question is, is like are you in a perpetual state of like?
Mag overflow I'm not mag starvation no okay, not me okay, okay, though. I may have
You know in RPGs when you're when you finish a dungeon at level 55 and the party member joins you and they're level like 38
Yeah, okay. Yeah, you know we're doing it over're level like 38. Yeah, okay.
Yeah, you know that.
Overdoing it, yeah.
Yeah, I'm not too worried about mag, I'll be quite honest.
I mean, I'm assuming the fact
that there's an exchange rate person to be like,
do you want to turn it into cash?
Is there because people will find themselves with more mag
they may know what to do with?
So here's what sucks.
That is useless.
What you want to be able to do is turn cash into mag.
Into the other way around but that would
defeat the whole thing
Defeat the game that would literally yeah, no that that doesn't that doesn't but I want it though
Unless you plan extensively for it like Darkest Dungeon and its multiple currencies in one, you know. But yeah, okay.
That is a situation that you find you don't have, but you also go ham.
So there's an ability that you get to equip that causes a bunch of extra money to drop
from enemies when you kill them, okay and
Once you find a spot with those flowers that just spawn enemies infinitely
And you're auto killing them with a single strike the farm you could put on a podcast such as the cast of Superbeast
Podcast and you can just abuse it as
hard as you want.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah, I think I'm just going to take the game at its own pace.
I don't know that I'm going to...
It's long enough and I don't know that I'm going to necessarily feel like stopping to
fuck with the flow.
There's a very strange thing that happens when you do that. When you get significantly stronger than the game's base content, you are flying through
those micro dungeons in like half an hour because nothing in there actually fights you.
As a result, you essentially stop gaining XP entirely.
Because you're not having to stop, you're not having to retread, you're just auto killing
everything at like a 50% reduction.
And it's giving you less because of the word is relative.
So then eventually it catches up with you.
Yeah.
So the place that I'm at right now, I'm like, I don't have to do nothing until
I get to the final dungeon. Like, I'm good to just coast on my current character strength
until the final dungeon.
Well, shit. Okay.
Yeah. That game's real good.
It's very good. It's very good.
I would say the most interesting thing about it is that it is consistently
Exciting in the way that it changes up its own formula
Hmm, okay, like every every like calendar date has its own like
Flavor it's not like all right. This is the the now we're done. Yeah
Art dungeon it's like they're like different things
Cuz yeah, I mean like the the there was always a like, you know a particular contrivance that you establish early whether it's like
Oh, we got to wait for
Tartarus or we got to have the next victim in the TV or you know what?
I mean, whatever it is here or just like the the energy to be like right you're you're pretty much
You know what the the next Mega Man?
Dr. Wiley boss is gonna be and then you're and when it's gonna pop up on the thing
but yeah, I was I was very surprised at a couple of the
the calendar
Events, but the one thing I do know will happen is every time something big goes down
Whatever it is or whoever is involved with it will always be like and that's why in two weeks time I'll
be making my move and you're like well yeah the game format requires you. That's not true. Really? Okay.
That is, that is, I'm trying so hard. Yeah, okay, okay. Like that is not true. Okay because it certainly sets up an expectation that like you know it's like alright. We cleared it. Well now what's gonna happen next?
It's like big shit's going down and I can two weeks actually I
Can't actually describe one that
Like a way that that is not the case the primary deadline
Like there's there's the story and what I call the event
Deadline that's one thing but the real deadline is we have to leave this town on this date to make it to the next
town in time
Okay
Like at the way it's phrase like yeah boys and girls. We gotta leave
the way it's phrased is like, yeah, boys and girls, we got to leave by the 23rd. So everybody get your shit done by the 23rd because we're out of here.
Right. Okay. Kids get on the bus. Yeah.
Which makes it really natural for when you've blown through the story event in a single
day and you're like, well, why am I sticking around for 14 more days? It's like, because
you don't have to leave because the trip is all we're only all leaving in a couple weeks.
So I guess then to that my my, my last question, I wonder for
anybody who waits until the last days to do the task, and hits
that point of realizing, oh, shit, this takes more than I
thought it did. They are pretty much forced to do the mage grind strategy or reload
an old save, I imagine. You can get fucked, basically. Or will there always be a slow
go farm MP from a volcano and, you know. So each calendar deadline has its own focus. The first one is the one that's
the most like persona three, four and five. Okay. Like the necromancer dungeon is like
extremely clear. It's get strong enough, do the dungeon, maybe come back, do the dungeon,
etc. Don't assume the next ones are going to be like that. Yeah. The next one is like maybe come back, do the dungeon, et cetera.
Don't assume the next ones are going to be like that.
Yeah. The next one is like pushes you to like do this, this, this, and then this.
And if you, the, the basic logic is like, if you are able to have completed the
side content in an area,
you are able to beat the story event.
Right?
Like, cause sometimes the side content is more difficult
than the story content.
And some of them are implied to be like,
do it right now, do it right now.
And some are like, you should probably just do it on the final day.
Like the sense of urgency between them is very different.
And it makes it clear.
Yeah.
But you can't fuck yourself over.
You can.
If you have poor planning.
I wouldn't be too worried about it.
Yeah, okay.
The only one, the only one that I would say
is that
the fourth dungeon, you should do,
you should walk into that motherfucker day one
and just ignore everything else and just go right in there.
I've also been playing metaphor. I'm very far into the game.
Sounds like you're approaching the finale.
I am approaching. I'm in the middle of September right now.
Okay. Um and I have passed the what would I call it? I have passed by
the dramatic climax that is Metaphors culprit pancakes reveals. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is like six hours of nonstop go, go, go, go, go.
It's it's very, very intense.
Nice. There is a there is a 48 hour period in that game that takes like six hours.
Just just nonstop.
Go, go, go, go go go okay, and
They nailed it on that shit the the the payoffs the setup the the twists the etc like
fantastic amazing great
And then the game points at a WrestleMania sign and gives you the rest
of your calendar and then you see where they cut out a major dungeon out of the
game okay you go to a location and you see it and you're like wow and there
you're like we're not going inside and I'm like
Really, we're not gonna go inside
Huh?
And they're like, you know, we're not gonna go in that's uh, it's very obviously got cut before release
And I'm right but it's so elaborate looking from far away like no, we're not gonna go in no
DLC But it's so elaborate looking from far away like no, we're not gonna go in DLC
It's like at the 60% mark it'd be really weird to go back there for DLC, but I don't know isn't that
Isn't that what Phantom Liberty is?
If Phantom Liberty is like an open-world game that you can go anywhere and do anything at any time
Oh, yeah, now great if this game does have a post game. But yeah, that's a really good game. And I am, I finish every
time period going, wow, I made a lot of progress with all of these bonds. Like, wow, I made more progress than I thought I was going to.
Wow.
Like, I'm looking at it and I think I have like 20 bond levels left across the game.
And I definitely have more than 20 days.
Okay.
So, here's a not-so-super-in-your-willhouse question, but I'm just curious what you think.
The first human designs that we see are all really fucking wild and interesting, and then
of course you have your reference to a Bosch painting, right?
Yeah, Hieronymus Bosch. So does that power level of human design keep up going forward?
Are you continuously impressed and or pleased by the designs for humans?
There are some good ass humans in this game.
Okay.
There are some killer humans.
I think the... wait, did you beat there's some killer humans. I think the the the
Wait, did you beat the first dungeon? Yes, and you beat it? Yeah, okay
That fucking thing is probably the coolest one. I've seen so far that shits out of control
so the raddest part if anything is like well, you're looking at
the yeah, well, yeah exactly looking at the, yeah, exactly,
the Bosch painting, right?
And I remember, I think I told the story about how,
as a kid, I remember we had a couple of those art books
around the house for some reason.
It was in the guest room, and I would stare at them
because they were just so fucking,
like I didn't know what I was looking at,
and it was just like depictions of hell, you know?
Yeah, seeing them 3D animated
with all the fucking people dancing around, it's like.
And I remember my dad came into the room once
and was like, you shouldn't stare at that for too long,
it's not good.
It's weird. Right?
You know, and I was like. It's weird shit.
Well, yay, and it was just like, cause it's hell, it's bad,
you're looking at hell, you know? And it was, yeah, I don't know, yeah, and it was just like, cause it's hell, it's bad, you're looking at hell, you know?
And it was, yeah, I don't know, whatever,
the spiritual vibes were, you know, oogie boogie,
whatever, but I was just like, I was super interested
in, cause I'm just like, what are these weird forms
and all the, you know, and so looking at the, you know,
the actual, the one that you end up fighting, there's
that bit with the egg part of the design where you're like, frogs are inside the egg.
I'm like, you should, if you know the source material, you know what's going to happen,
you know?
And then sure enough, yeah, you crack that shit open and then it comes out like, ah,
that's great.
Like there's a whole thing to the reference.
So I'm that's kind of my thing is like, that's probably the strongest. That's the
strongest one. Okay, okay. But I think the there's a reason for
that. So that one is directly taken from a her on her on a
mouspache painting, like a one to one recreation with the frogs
and the egg and all that shit. Yeah I, I mean people are saying nay,
but I mean I haven't seen all of them.
People, sorry, before when I was playing
through the early part of the game,
I noticed a bunch of design elements from the humans
that I thought were really interesting.
So the game is like overwhelmingly painted
like a 2D filter.
Like there's a 2D anime filter or pesky filter on everybody.
Absolutely.
Except for humans. Humans are realistically 3D modeled
and don't have a 2D filter on them.
Also, in the anime cutscenes,
they're depicted as 3D models instead of anime 2D animated...
Ehhh...
Yeah.
There's a watercolor filter on everything else
you're right yeah and on top of that the one we're talking about I forget its
name because they are all homo something yeah with the dancing creatures on the
leg on the leg and the the the fucking frogs that live inside it is overwhelmingly obvious once you encounter that
that these aren't just like creatures or monsters,
these are like transcending the internal logic
of the setting.
Yeah, no.
Like these are patently unreal creatures.
It feels, especially looking,
and then like even looking at shit on the title screen as
well and things floating around, it does look like this is from another, exactly from another
world from the like with the imagination.
I don't know if it's, you know, from more whatever the case is, it feels like it does
not belong in the same setting for sure.
That vibe is clear from that.
I don't know if this is an inspiration and I don't know if this is an inspiration, and I don't know if this is going anywhere
But one of the things I did during that first metaphor stream is I pulled up a video from cosmos
Where Carl Sagan starts to talk about?
Flatland and the hyper cubes okay
And he basically describes that to a 2d creature in Flatland a
three-dimensional creature would look nonsensical and
Contort in and on itself and be able to appear and disappear
Right into all sorts of zany shit, right?
And that's what I feel like you're looking at when you look at humans. They defy the logical rules of its own setting.
You're missing information and what you're seeing is the best you can grasp from your
limited plane.
Yeah.
My favorite part of when I was doing all of that speculation is that I noticed that the
archetypes are also actually displayed as 3D in the anime cutscenes and are also realistically 3D modeled.
That's a fucking interesting concept. Yeah, that's if that's headcanon, that's pretty strong. I mean, we'll see where things go.
It might go somewhere. I don't actually know but that's really conceptually interesting. Yeah.
But yeah, no the the fucking the fucking the humans are great and there's parts of the story that have more humans and less humans. Mm-hmm
But they're always kind of around. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm
Okay
Yeah, the
2d Flatland creatures looking at you and seeing a
bisection of your insides
And going what is this weird steak thing that is?
And going what is this weird steak thing that is constantly becoming bigger and then constantly getting smaller as you can only see one Yeah, particular sliver of existence. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm fascinating
Okay, that's fun. That's a fun. That's a fun way to do it. Yeah, that games real real real good
and they even have time to throw in a little
real real good. And they even have time to throw in a little fucking anime death game situation with the idea of like the setup essentially with the
there's rules that must be followed otherwise you know the whole thing doesn't work.
That shit is obviously there so that the player doesn't go, why don't we just fucking jump Lewis right now? And so
like two things, one, like it's stated outright, like you would lose. You would totally whoop
your ass. And two, cause you'll just fucking die.
Well, so there's what you're left with is an overwhelming feeling of like, you're just
not even remotely allowed to approach,
which hey, guess what? That's a Griffith vibe. It's like it's bad enough when the fight,
if it were fair, would be unfair, but then also fate has conspired to not even let you
approach.
He is so far away. That's how you properly Griffith, you know, so that that vibe was established very very strongly immediately
Yeah fucking great fucking great so far
Well, we'll see how that comes along and I appreciate too as well that like they're being generous with those archetypes because hey
No personas, right? So you want to?
Be able to feel you don't want to get too bored
with your styles and things and like right off the, yeah, it's like within one dungeon you have like six
or so to choose from.
They come fast for a while.
Awesome.
Like they do, they do start to slow down, but as it starts to slow down with the brand new types, your
bonds are getting high that you're getting the tier two types of a bunch of them, or
the tier three types.
It's interesting to balance a game around the idea of not allowing you to switch mid-battle,
you know, where that would be too much.
You can enter into fights and be fucked.
Yeah. That would be too much. You can enter into fights and be fucked. Yeah, yeah, because there is, that freedom brings a,
you know, well, I mean, it's a problem
where if you have the ability to like,
spend a turn doing anything,
then there are no real problems, right?
If you have a full pocket of personas
that have enough diversity amongst their skills, you will never
ever ever need to switch to a different persona. You know? I think that... except for your own
boredom and interest. I think that I think they really split the difference really well because
in the modern persona you have three characters that can't change shit and hope you brought
in the right guys because they're coming in with what they're coming in on, but then you
have an infinite variety of whatever versus here where it's like everybody has an infinite
variety of whatever as long as you actually set them up to bring that shit in.
Mad Fientist It's even interesting how they have your partner start out
as AI controlled, almost like an older game,
just to show you that feature in a way,
and then you unlock the full control.
But it's like, and if you want to go back to the AI control
with behaviors, you can.
So you have your full gamut of three, four, and five
possibilities there.
Yeah, don't do that.
No, no, no, not at all. It was the worst thing ever back when you couldn't control your partners.
But they put that in for the beginning to be like, if you want to, you know.
The game does kind of expect you that if you run into an encounter that you're just completely
fucked on to back out to your save point and like, maybe I can mix and match.
So like the dragon in the mines. Yeah, is a good example
It's like, you know what the best way to beat that dragon is
three mages Just ice blast that shit head for fucking 10 turns in a row
I over thought it because turns out I was super ready for it just without any switching up or grinding
I just walked into it and I was fine. You know, should I always have a mixed party? No
I think I just walked into it was fine, you know, should I always have a mixed party? No
Sometimes that sometimes the best solution just for warriors. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. No, so
fucking
Hulkenberg with the
night dual tech that creates a
weakness to pierce.
Just do it over and over and over and over and over. Fucking.
I'm getting into the fucking.
Lock two of those in and watch things melt.
It's so strong.
It's like, oh, you have no weaknesses?
Cool, let's make one.
Yeah.
There's three ways you can basically build your kit.
I built my kit very classically and I'm like I want to have a magical attacker a physical attacker an agility attacker and
the flex spot for whatever right
But you can you can just figure you you'd go talk to the informant and you just walk into a place and just build
The whole fucking team around what the area you're walking into is weak on
True, even if they're not all very strong, like they all have the right shit.
The informant is a really interesting way to basically be like, hey man, we know you
can jump on Google, but why not do it diagetically?
Here.
You know, why not do it within the world?
Spend some cash.
We'll tell you what Google will tell you.
There's a really incredible piece of advice that the first informant gives you is like,
listen, if a goblin sees a staff, they're going to go fucking crazy and kill you. And
so I'm like, how bad could that be? If a goblin sees a staff, every goblin does a multi-hit aoe attack on every turn that will kill you.
You're not bringing magicians in there.
Okay, okay.
It's Death Megadolion?
Yeah, it's like every turn for everyone will just wipe your shit.
It's crazy.
Hey Death, I've blocked physical and all magic attacks now what ah cool, bro
Word check this out
Yeah, all right cool cool cool also when you get to the
6070 percent mark you start to earn two types of abilities that change the balance of the game one is
Party members start learning,
I want your Tetra Break or Macauer Break.
I want your resistances, gone.
You're gone, fuck off.
You also learn, you're weak to electricity now.
You're weak to fire now.
Fuck it, I decided that you're weak to fire now.
Yeah, yeah, as like we did.
Some of them learn, wind damage ignores everything.
Like it does. It's like it's doing wind damage.
But even if they have absorb wind damage, it's ignoring it.
It's just going to go right the fuck through.
It doesn't. I don't care.
Go die.
It is interesting to be looking at press turn half steps and half turns and things
like that and like thinking about guard and all those things. Like, right, let me rephrase.
I remember when I was going through like P5 Vengeance or SMT5 Vengeance the other day
and it was like, oh, you're not going to fucking beat that boss without guarding he's what the fuck and I'm like yo I'm like I never
guarded I played the original game I never fucking guarded and they're like yeah dude
you're dead and I'm like okay watch me and I'm like look I fucking just just DPS raced
and managed to do it without it you know.
Here like it definitely feels like it does, it takes away all elemental weakness.
It mitigates the damage in such an extreme way.
You end our times where you literally have nothing.
You're going to guard.
Yeah, you must, right?
And then furthermore, the back row and you're going to guard.
And then it's and then even going like, hey, and if you put this item on, you can guard
for less, you know, of a cost.
And you can still take two half turns and use that to do a dual tech.
And you're like, okay, I'm like, ooh, I am now really like I paid attention to the turn
before. But like I wasn't doing, like, really particular math on it. I was kind of just
going like, all right, which character right here or which of my demons has the thing that
can nuke this fight? Let me let me get it to him. Let me keep passing the ball to the one who
can do it, you know, and let me buff that person to eliminate the fight. And that's
kind of just that's how I said still exists here. Yeah, you know, I get into a fight and
like I have my main guy, he does holy damage and the things weak to holy. So like, okay,
everybody pass or buff or debuff or just fucking just give them
fucking ball but I do find myself especially with mixed enemy groups like stopping and
thinking more than I used to about you know half turns and the exact what would be remainder
and be like okay let's get it down to one last half turn and then the last person heal
everybody up let's go into the next or whatever the case is. I'm thinking about it more than I did in the previous game.
So, yeah, absolutely phenomenal so far and just bangers in the classical fantasy sense,
which impresses me more because we hear a lot of fantasy music in fantasy games and
fantasy settings.
Part of the novelty of the Persona music is that that's a genre of music that you don't
find in RPGs very often, which makes it extra endearing.
It's got a very unique style and Shogi Meguro has created an identity for that franchise.
Here it's just fantasy RPG music, but it's fucking phenomenal. It's doing what you expect
it to do. It's not changing. There's nothing I've heard so far that feels like it shouldn't be a part of the genre
We're not cowboy bebopping it, you know, but it's just really really really good
So yeah, there's something extra impressive to note about that too as well. I
Eagerly await more thoughts on this cuz that games real good
Yeah, so that's that's you know, pretty much all I have to talk about. But this week I will return to some streaming.
So yeah.
He's back!
Not as of tomorrow.
Tomorrow is still going to be off.
But as of Thursday, I'll pick back up with Phoenix Wright and
a couple of other things.
Like I mentioned before, I want to take some one-offs into account before making any big,
big, big moves.
So, I'll post the schedule and we'll see what's going on So in addition
to
many more
Metaphors I also played the last Alan Wake to DLC
What was that called?
the lake house
Right, okay
It is called the lake House because, yeah.
The Sam House.
It might as well be called the Cojumbo Zone.
It's really good.
It's a nice, short, sweet, interesting new story told with a new character, or no, an existing character,
but not one that got a lot of play inside Alan Wake 2.
It's one of the FBC from Control's labs
that is run by a research couple
that is clearly getting divorced.
Interesting.
So you're like you're like reading like as you're reading through
Like documentation over time they're getting like more and more and more and more antagonistic and hateful towards one another and it's really interesting
What's one of the strangest things in a in a in an oof kind of way or in a ha ha kind of way?
No, no, it's getting toxic in there.
Okay.
What's weird of the timing is that one of them
is a Frenchman voiced by an actor named Philippe Spall,
who happens to be one of the party members in Metaphor,
that you have not met yet. Yeah. Interesting.
And yo, this dude's awesome. Like he's my favorite party member in metaphor. And a lot
of that is because of his incredible voice and fantastic performance.
Okay. And right after I'm playing Metaphor,
I walk over and I see him in live action.
I'm like, oh!
Okay. There he is.
I would like to see much more of this guy in the future.
He's fucking great.
He doesn't happen to be Scottish, does he?
No, French.
Okay, you said, yeah, it's true.
Shout outs to the Scotsmen that are all over
the beginning of metaphor there, by the way.
Oh, everybody, everybody that you get to hang out with
has a slightly different accent in metaphor.
Like they go all over the place.
Yeah, but like right off the bat between Alsace
and your necromancer,
you got your Scots Rune Scotland right off the bat.
You're Shrek-ing pretty hard right away.
So good stuff.
Uh, JoJo characters standing around looking like part-
They have to- Zorba's ridiculous.
Fucking part five boys standing around talking like Shrek.
Zorba like- Holy shit. Fucking part five boys standing around talking like Shrek
Like you you hang out with Lewis and you check out what's Lou what Lewis has got going on and he's got that fucking
Panning shot of a bunch of silhouettes behind him and it's like Lewis and the gay boy squad. It's
ridiculous, it's ridiculous
passion a Scotland expansion team yeah yeah yeah uh but yeah no Lake House is is is quite good it's short it
doesn't overstay its welcome it's it's very control It is more control than it is Alan Wake.
OK, in the middle of Alan Wake.
Yeah, but it's not Alan or Saga.
It's off to the side.
Self-contained and controls differently as well.
Yeah. And the reason why it's so much more control is because it is the.
It's the Alan Wake 2.8 fragmentary
passage control. Love that. Where dream drop fucking whatever. If you if you dig
a little under the surface you can get a Control 2 teaser in there.
And that game looks like it'll be cool.
Okay.
Here's hoping.
Here's how I don't know when that's going to come out, because apparently
Alan at a Max Payne one and two remakes or the next thing and then the firebreak
thing, so Control two might be far away
next gen
Maybe
Let's see anything else
Nothing too crazy with me just those two really
Okay
Just those two really
Okay
What's your schedule looking like my schedule this week is going to be
more metaphor shocking
absolutely astonishing
But it's also going to be on Thursday
I'm gonna be taking a sponsored stream look at Dragon Quest 3 and a sponsored stream look at Rue Valley.
And then the thing on Friday.
Cool Friday.
Did I do D&D yet?
Ask people in the chat.
I'm going to that after today's podcast.
Dragon Quest 3 remake.
Is the art from that just grabbing the old art and using it or are they putting new art
out that looks like the old art?
I don't know.
I saw a really cool portrait box art thing that was Toriyama style and it was awesome.
It looked like it was made for a booklet back then but I can't tell if it actually was or
not. It's new assets?
Okay, super nice art in that shit.
I'm very impressed.
That's dope.
That's cool.
Mad Fientist Yeah, that's it for me.
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It looks like Netflix wanted a version that worked and got their own people to do it.
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literally just grab and drop it is is that what we're looking at or is it in
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that's that's good that game's worth playing now probably hmm okay um San
Andreas is the best one now you could say Vice City and you might be right but like
Four and five can suck my fucking dick
Was the next Netflix released version the the best functioning of the ports is that yeah
Yeah, was the one the Netflix version on your phone. I see I didn't get that was the good one
And what you were saying I I'm surprised I am shocked at that. Okay, huh?
Isn't that special I
Mean the samurai showdown on my iPhone ran better than samurai showdown on the switch
Isn't that awesome? Isn't that just great isn't't that super? So that's the world we live in
Oh video games man. Oh, you know what I forgot I forgot to talk about something. Uh-huh
So I
I have been inundated with people whose opinions I respect,
such as Gene, telling me actually,
now that I'm deeper into it,
Dragon Age Veilguard is awesome as shit.
It's actually great.
And I'm sitting here going, oh really?
What?
Okay.
I don't, do I have, so I was like,
you know what I'm gonna do?
It's good.
I'm gonna load up Dragon Age Origins,
and I'm gonna fuckin' go back
and I'm gonna check that thing out,
cause that's the game that I loved.
Origins, okay.
Yeah, the first one from 2000.
The remake of the first one?
No, it was always called that.
The first one was called Origins.
What a weird, like, suffix.
The gimmick was that they had like, every race and class combo had like a completely unique like five hours
Start to their storyline, okay
So
I'm like yeah
I'm gonna get origins and then I tried to load it up on steam and that shit won't run at all
Like it just won't even fucking turn on at all. Is there any so their bio where middleware shit going on?
That's just fucking sucks ass.
So then I'm like and then I checked and like, oh, right.
On top of it just not booting, even if I could boot it,
Dragon Age Origins requires a CD key to be linked to your
BioWare social account. So when you click on it in the
launcher, it goes to a website that doesn't exist so it can't
unlock it for you. And then I was like, fucking wow. And I
looked it up and oh, the GOG version actually has all that
shit included. The GOG version ignores all that because it's
GOG. How about that? So then. The GOG version ignores all that because it's GOG.
How about that?
So then I went to, I picked it up for like 20 bucks on GOG
and I'm like, cool.
And I ran it and it also doesn't work.
Even the updated GOG version.
Why?
And then I'm like, oh, it can't work
through its own launcher.
I have to launch it manually,
but only after I install a third party patch
that gives it four gigabyte address aware.
And then I load into it and I discover one of the issues
with Dragon Age Origins is that it came from that period
before 4K was a resolution anyone planned for.
So the interface in Dragon Age Origins tops out
at 1080p resolution. so if you put it at
your regular monitor's resolution everything is like two pixels high and
impossible to read so then I downloaded the 4k mod which increases the size of
all the interface elements to be normal okay and then I loaded up the game and was like, Oh my God, this is so much uglier and
terrible controlling than the version of Dragon Age Origins that lives in my mind. This is
like one of the worst interfaces I have ever seen for one of these types of games. This has aged worse than tons of its contemporaries
at the time.
It has aged way worse than Lost Odyssey.
It has aged way worse than Mass Effect.
It is astonishing.
It is-
Has Lost Odyssey aged?
Hmm, I don't know.
I haven't verified.
It aged way worse than Bioshock and all that shit.
Okay. And I'm sitting here and I'm like, yeah, like, yeah, I made the somebody mentions it in
chat just now. And I mentioned at the time, I think it has aged worse than Baldur's Gate 2.
Okay, I don't I'm not I don't fault old games for not supporting future resolutions.
It's nice when it happens, but there's a lot of shit that doesn't, right?
I definitely think asking me to link up to a non-existent website for my account is definitely...
Yes. No. Everything prior to that resolution shit is absolute horse shit.
Now, here's the question
Pop it in on console. Oh
Yeah, which console is there any is which one which one would I do that?
their X Bork's I
I
could
play the
wrap like dramatically inferior console version as an Xbox 360 download on
an Xbox through backwards compatibility.
Yeah, Xbox like which then I have to deal with the fact that the interface was made
for PC and the controller interface is like a horrible afterthought.
And then I was
like, oh you know what I could do? I could just, I could use my controller on
my PC. Oh no wait, that's the era of BioWare telling you to go fuck yourself
if you wanted to play their games on PC with a controller. Back when all three
Mass Effect didn't have controller support you can only do mass and keyboard even though they were designed for a controller
But if you just played it on the Xbox with the Xbox wait the Xbox store is gone
Wait, can I not even?
What is that is the Xbox 3? Oh, whatever anyway hold on
I'm saying like if you jump on the Xbox and you grab the digital copy from that that's the old port. That's digit. That's
You know, whatever the X what was it called?
Whatever the legacy store is there for all their is it 360 is the Xbox 360 store gone?
It's got the 360 store is gone
Word is the Xbox one does it have it? Oh my god, this sucks. Also, I'm pretty sure
that Xbox behind me died. It got dropped and the pieces are falling out. So I'm pretty
sure it's dead. Disc only. If you have an old disc, it would run, but you can't go buy
it. So I could reach out to get a fucking 360 disc of Dragon Age Origins that won't have any of the DLC unlock because
it still wants the fucking BioWare social account on console so that I could play the
bad version of Dragon Age Origins while I look at like... dude, it's... so my memories aren't wrong, but I am sitting here going that like this might be one of
the games that has aged the worst I've ever played that I cared about.
Like visually controls, the stability, just holy shit. And then I'm like, like oh and Dragon Age 2 was like all
fucked up and then Inquisition was like boring and I'm like what and that I'm
sitting there going like why do I even care about your why would I even care
that Veilguard is different they're all kind of fucked up in some way. I don't imagine the PS3 version...
I don't want to hear the word PS3 again until I die.
You know why.
But as people who did recordings of video games,
everything that came out on the ps3 could go fuck itself
HDCP for days fucking piece of shit
yeah okay well ultimately they'll all be getting back to you next week or
something with a Dragon Age Veilguard report or some shit it but hey hey if it if it's good and good things are happening, then that's good.
If Bioware is-
That's right.
That is true.
Good things are good.
I hope that's true.
So what's up in the news?
Especially because while it wasn't something immediately slated or so, after playing through
the Mass Effect series, I've always been like, oh, Dragon huh Dragon Age huh maybe one day and just put that over there but you know of
course there needs to be an ability to boot the thing up. And now it's a series with
caveats on every single fucking game. So I think I think what broke my brain is
that I'm looking at the class selection on the thing
and I skied it out on blue sky, which you should follow me on, everybody, that I can't
believe this game came out and only has three classes, like fighter, mage, and rogue.
And then people responded like, Pat, every Dragon Age only has three classes.
What are you talking about? And I'm like, Oh my God, that's true. Yeah. Those are the three
classes in Dragon Age games. I guess because the other classes you get subclasses that join you.
Ben, because no, everybody's one of the three classes that just has subclasses.
I don't know what Dragon Age is. Well guess what?
Every single game in that
every single game in Dragon Age
is completely different.
I thought I had an
inkling of what the fuck
the franchise was.
I have no idea what these games are, dude.
That's crazy.
Okay, you know
what Dragon Age is? It is a role-playing game series
made entirely out of the way people felt when Dark Souls 2 came out. Every game that comes
out that says Dragon Age on it is the Dark Souls 2 release. Okay, I- my head is like the- I just was like you
have a Lord of the Rings party of classes you can pick from and then you
can bang whoever you want in this like- That's true, you can bang. In this you
know, Bioware like setup and yeah you have relationships and you go- That's
true. But how do you control relationships and you go? That's true
But how do you control your characters? It's different in every fucking game
I'm serious an action game. So no no yeah, you point and click
But what oh is that even true? I don't it's so like yeah every single game that says Dragon Age on it
Came out and is like Dark Souls 2 even the first one people were like, this isn't enough like Baldur's Gate.
Three classes.
And every single one of those is someone's favorite now.
For reasons that are incomprehensible to the fans of the other ones.
Is it one of those like the first one you play is the one you fell in love with
type of situation? Yeah. Yeah it one of those like the first one you play is the one you fell in love with type of situation?
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, it is.
Yeah, it's Mega Man two versus three
and Sonic two versus three.
It's just-
Dude, I'm so sick of Mega Man two and three.
Both of those games are like the best ones.
What did you play first?
Like, can we not just agree that they're both incredible?
Yeah, it's whatever your childhood brain
took in before the other one and then that was it you fight to the death on that hill
Okay, okay Wow well that game series is so fucking confusing
Is that the only franchise where the first game out had the word origins in the title yeah
out had the word origins in the title. Yeah. Yeah. Because I like has it sounds like a
re-release of a game that you you slap that on to distinguish it from the first one. You know,
that's crazy. Huh. I wonder if any game had the audacity to come out and have one in the in the title as well. That's, yeah. Anyway, all right. War of Combat.
But, I mean, actually is the first entry.
Oh.
Oh, oh, like it comes out and it's like Dragon Age 1,
but it's actually just the first game.
It's the beginning of the franchise.
Yeah, this is as close as you're gonna get.
Yeah, okay, okay.
Because you can use one when you do a reset
and come all the way back around
That's what yeah like battle feeling bad people are pointing out
Battlefield one did that but you they had to come back around to it. So yeah, yeah
Total number one, I guess I suppose you can you can throw that I guess
But wasn't that supposed to be like I'm number one. Yeah, it's not actually the you know, but
I'll allow it I'm speaking of dead fighting games new
Virtua Fighter confirmed fuck off you didn't see the news. It's not dead It's been alive this whole time stasis fucking it's been alive this whole time
Running on virtue a fighter is fine. Okay in our hearts
Hey, hey, hey, they just so they they're basically a new interview came out and in addition to the current
probably heading downhill
releases of Jet Set Radio,
Golden Axe and Crazy Taxi because they're doing live service stuff that seems like a really bad idea, they confirmed that Virtua Fighter is also coming back on the list of new things that Sega's And if I can offer you some hopium, maybe the reason why there's no Kiryu in any Tekken
games ever is because something, something, something over here.
No.
No.
So when this news came out, I was like, please keep it boring.
And people said, but Pat, wouldn't that kill virtual fighter and I said I don't care
Yeah
It's not rational. You're not like you're not gonna give out a rational opinion
fighter six that has two new characters called Jimmy and Steve and they're a
Brazilian jujitsu guy and a fucking obscure form of kung-fu or taekwondo.
And it has rollback netcode. It can die after that.
Once there's a version that you can just play forever, it can die.
Just keep it boring.
You know what you're getting, right?
You know you're getting heat moves.
I know, they're going to make it flashy.
You're getting heat moves.
They're going to do something.
You're getting, if not a fucking direct Kiryu crossover of sorts, you're going to get costumes.
I'm going to see Akira throw a sonic boom
and just vomit blood all over the floor.
And, and,
you might not even get rollback.
But I am, but I am, I imagine, I imagine,
I imagine there will be but
70 30 chance, maybe what happens if I type in virtual fighter six rollback netcode
Does that happen do I get oh
Okay, all right monkeys paw you get
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Sure.
She's a Scottish boxer.
Yeah, there you go, right?
And it's all set and ready to go and yeah
But it's also a live service game because everything else they're making now is live service
What do you want from me
Here's suffering pain
so I
the weight of your soul I think that turning Virtua Fighter into a live-service game might be a way to just rack up the
grandest loss on any Virtua Fighter ever because I can't think of a series that is less ready to be gassed than Virtua
Fighter. A series in which people play the default looking characters that they picked
20 years ago exclusively.
It's entirely possible that in this quest for negative money that they that they look at it
from the jump and go we're looking for you Pat actually and we're looking for
the three other people like you to just fund this forever and that'll be it we
don't want mass appeal I don't think I don't think there's like I could I mean I
could hop into the discord between me and the ten other guys but I don't think there's like I could I mean I could hop into the discord between me and the ten other guys
But I don't I don't think we can
Bankroll it ourselves that just seems
Non-viable also inside of it is a VF 5 mode where you can just go play that I
I'll be really blunt.
I would legitimately be happy if Virtua Fighter never came out again as long as they re-released
VF5 Final Showdown with good netcode and made it in a backwards compatible, you know, like
on a console and PC so you could just play it for...
But now that they did it and embarrassed themselves, that was the shot, you know, like on a console and PC so you could just play it for like Did it embarrass themselves? That was the shot, you know, it doesn't I don't know that
they come back around and go, oops, we fucked up here, we're gonna do it again. I think
now I see you think you got to wait for whatever comes after this, you know, I see someone
in the chat describing live services of as a game released and then updated
with regular content, which is the state of fighting games for forever, right?
However, I need to be very clear with people who are not familiar with Virtua Fighter.
Virtua Fighter gets a new character on a rate of approximately one every two or three years.
Every two or three years. Every two or three games.
Like, new characters are at a violent premium.
So you would get the fucking Virtua Fighter 6 season pass,
and it would be like, next year we'll give you a character.
Is Virtua Fighter a franchise where there are less new characters than entries in the franchise
No
Cuz there's five virtual
Each game adds to
You got you added lion and shun then you added a we and
You added Lion and Shun, then you added Aoi and Taka, and then you added Vanessa and Brad, and then you added Go and...
But it's the closest to that number of all fighting games.
It's the closest one game equals one new character ratio.
It's a series that's defined itself on a lack of change and the people who like it like it like, you know
Leon Raffaell the the Mantis fighter that came out in virtual fighter 2
He's he's been like
mostly unchanged
Since I was a child
Yep, I don't make and to fight fight the elder. If he if he changes too much,
bruh. And that's why if you want to play a different character that feels different,
every three or four years, we have one or two new characters for you. Okay, this guy's name is Brad. He's a kickboxer. Oh, do you like him? No, then go fuck yourself forever
I guess okay monkeys paw you're getting the exact game
You just described down to the exact characters, and it's not live service, right?
But it is not called Virtua Fighter 6. It's called Virtua Fighter kids to
called Virtua Fighter 6, it's called Virtua Fighter Kids 2. That doesn't sound like the exact same game.
It's the exact same content except through the lens of the big head small body Virtua
Fighter Kids.
Well, okay, so I have a child and I love my son very much, so the option of just saying
that I would kill myself is no longer on the table
I have to go on for my boy forced a big head mode, but I think about it
Okay, I'd be I'd be like oh, okay
No, but no
And
And all the big heads affect all the hurt boxes and hit boxes and collisions
So almost man is a threat to my mental health with this discussion
He is he is psychically attacking me
Hey, man, Sega made an announcement. I'm just running the bit that you was destined to be
You know I goes made an announcement, I'm just running the bit that you was destined to be.
You know how this goes.
When Virtua Fighter is in the news, you need to put a mental shield up.
Cast fucking Makara Karn and come into the podcast.
You know how it is.
So the thing that I don't, the thing that I'm actually really worried about is that
I don't know who the fuck at Sega still works there that made Virtua Fighter 5.
That was a long time ago.
Oh, nobody.
Absolutely nobody.
And I don't mean the updates.
I mean like a proper new Virtua Fighter.
Yeah.
That was in the 360 era.
That was a fucking 2007 game.
No, they are long gone, dead or in jail.
They're not around anymore.
Like second AM2 is dust on the wind.
But I bet you that your hopes lie with the one person who is on the RGG team who keeps
wanting to put that arcade machine in there, who pushed for the Blitznet code version and
is like, no, you know?
I think that there's, okay, there's someone over at Like A Dragon in the RGG team that
decided that one of the classroom storylines in Lost Judgment needed to be about the fantasy
of a fighting game club in the high school that played exclusively Virtua Fighter five. Actually. Yes.
And that the main character of that quest line was a teenage version of
Segata Sanshiro. I'm serious by the way, that I'm not, this is not,
he had a kid there. Segata Sanshiro too. No, no, but it's not, it's not his kid.
It's it's Segata Sanshiro as a teenager. Okay. Um,
and that the entire storyline is trying to figure out
how this dude is managing to sneak input lag
into your controls.
Wow.
Like, it's inspired.
Oh, that's incredible.
It is incredible.
Wow.
Someone on that team
fucking loves Virtua Fighter
to have put that into the game.
There you go. There you go. It's one person holding on.
Yes. It feels like it.
It feels like it. You can tell.
Over the years, the fact that that shit keeps coming back,
there's always a little...the fact that you have a little bit of hope that you didn't even know was there to hold on to is
Absolutely the result of that
It's funny you mentioned the the the bit about like the lag hitting the lag switch or so because
I
saw a post the other day that was a screenshot of
the Tekken 8 cheat engine options. When you run the cheat engine on a PC, it has...
Because I was like, there's a lot of games where you see footage of people like whatever,
like auto-blocking and things.
I'm like, what are the actual options here?
What do people have on?
Because it's like how tiny is your is your your your edict?
How is your ego?
What does it need?
So you have the electric wind godfist macro so you can set a hot key.
Control opponents inputs on a hotkey control opponents inputs on a hotkey like right off the bat you're just
like yeah I'm I put up I just put a little input in where you didn't press
anything and took over your controls for a second made you drop your combo whoop
how subtle do you want to hide your shit, right? Yeah, so take over the opponent's controls.
Lag switch, literally a hotkey.
Yeah.
Set close range, mid or long range counter hit in neutral.
So every time you touch your opponent,
it'll always be a counter hit.
And you're not even attempting to live in reality on this.
No, just like, I thought, yeah, it's not even like, oh, I'm an incredible player.
It's like situations that should not occur within the game logic, force them to occur.
Random block, low block percentage.
So you can get how often do you just want it to auto block lows?
View frame data during the game.
Prevent disconnect percentage from going up on rage quit.
If you are running a cheat and someone is stomping your ass with the cheats on and you
baby out, you can run a cheat to stop your disconnection percentage from increasing.
Do you understand how fucking tiny your dick is dude?
The level of insecurity is wild.
Duck under strings that have highs, auto sidestep timing, whatever the case is, and then all
these ones, and then the last one is perfect punish.
And then you just put in a combo, and the moment you block something that can be perfectly
punished with a full max damage thing, it'll just do the full thing automatically.
Yeah, that's a fun one.
I mean, wow.
Wow.
I always just thought it would be as simple as like,, um, you know, yeah auto auto block or whatever
It's like no you can get granular on the tiniest little level that gives insights into the mentality of the cheater
So isn't that fascinating? This is this is not a fighting game example, but I remember when
this is a very old conversation, I was playing PUBG a lot and
That desert map came out.
I played that for a couple of weeks and then I quit and I never looked back.
I would check in every six months to be like, have they fixed the cheating problem?
The answer was no.
What was occurring is that you would play about half a match of PUBG and you would get
killed from miles away.
Like it would do a kill cam thing
and it would show you nothing
because the character was so far away.
And they would be shooting you from an infinite distance
through the entire geometry of the world to kill you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I remember, and that was that,
there was a streak where I played
like two or three games every day for like a week. And that was how I died every single
time like 15 times in a row. I went, all right, done with this. Right. But what stood out
to me is that like this is not even approximating effectssimile of playing the game at all. Like you're loading
into a map and the robot is pointing you at things you can't see and then you're clicking
and seeing a little ticker that goes up and goes killed, killed, killed, you won, you
won. And I'm like, you're just playing a slot machine that always wins now.
Oh, do not underestimate how pathetic
you, the person running these things needs to be
for that to still feel good.
Like they're actually still getting a little,
little spark of enjoyment out of that, you know?
Or in some cases, it might even just like,
everyone else being salty or so, right? know, or in some cases, it might even just like, you're you be
everyone else being salty or so right? There's the I never forgot. I think I talked about it before, but the Tarkov
cheating community, and like how there's videos I like I forgot,
God, I forgot who made a really interesting one about discovering
the wiggle, where you do the right to kind of indicate that
you're a cheater, and someone else on the map is also a cheater.
And then you can find out when you load into a game how many people are just, you're playing
a different video game where you're all on the same team against everyone playing normally.
And then amongst yourselves, you're basically just like, yeah, we won't kill each other.
And so there's a cap.
You can only get to whatever top place before
the cheating community that is secretly on teams in their different games are all communicating
and taking you out together. Incredible. You know, we're like, there's two games happening
here and one is for a paid subscription to a cheat service. You know? Yeah, wild.
I'm infinitely fascinated.
I'm so beyond the mentality.
I want to understand.
I want to know.
That's why I find, when I see things like this
where it's like, oh, what options do they create
for themselves?
Because I'm like, what does the person who has
got the capability to crack a game open
and do all this to it, but is
such a baby inside.
Like this feels like you've come so far as an adult, but you still have a fucking sus
and bottle like this.
So interesting like me teaching my baby to play Monopoly.
But every time I pass go, I just give myself a thousand dollars because he doesn't know
the rules super good.
And if he complains, I go, no, no, no, that's not how the rules work. And then I beat a
two year old and go, man, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I'd love to know how many was the pipeline
I played normally. I got destroyed. I got destroyed, I got so destroyed and so upset that I just started
raged, not rage, not just rage quitting, but then, you know, whatever toxic messaging,
shit, shit talking people and then, and then you just have this like, okay, maybe I'll just put it
on once, you know, and then you just kind of like, oh, yeah, and then you get a little bit of a get
that little endorphin rush, and then you put it on a little bit more, you know, like what like, oh yeah, and then you get a little bit of a get that little endorphin rush, and then you put it on a little bit more. You know, like what like, like the timeline, you know, this can you look at
somebody who just rage quit on you and go, oh, yeah, they're on step seven. You know, they're
they're they're a couple weeks away from loading up the auto di detector. Incredible. That forum
where the guy the kid was like, I'm so tired of losing.
I just wanted to win for once and now my brother's account is banned. He's going to kill me.
You know, we're like, I have a good, I have a job. I'm busy. I don't have time to play
this game to get so good at it. God, it's so unfair. It's like, yeah, anyway, anyway,
infinitely fascinating stuff. Um, so yeah, like I hear that I hear that that scenario and I go
I guess the situation is gonna work itself out then because
Huh
Anyways, so
on
That note. Oh, hey, I'm gonna go for a public service announcement to anyone who can hear me
I'm not watching it yet because I never finished the first season, but that second season of Arcane is out, which means
I am watching many people think about reinstalling League of Legends. Don't do it. Don't do it.
Now I saw it to Purple Sharpie do it. And she says I didn't know any better and it's like you did you did know better you absolute
You knew better Sharpie. I'm watching. I'm just scroll past like two other people gone. Should I reinstall League of Legends?
You should know now
Sharpie, you know, you know, you know better
So I haven't started it but I'm probably going to and
So I haven't started it, but I'm probably going to and
League of Legends. Yes No arcane season 2 because I loved arcane season 1 and I'll tell you what'll happen because it happened to me last time as well
I'll finish that and I'll go damn that was really awesome. And then I will take all of that energy and
Thoroughly divert it into watching some music videos
And then perhaps even it's looking up some 2xko footage yeah and then I'll chill watching a bunch of
music videos after arcane season one that's that's how I contained it you
know the KDA and whatever I don't want to derail this conversation but I do have something to say because you mentioned 2x ko so Jinx got announced
for a playtest which was revealed in like a little clip yeah and every
comment underneath that was like when is this coming out? Like, the new reveal of a character is actually the first character we ever saw, like, three
years ago?
And like, what?
I suspect it's not going by a marketing budget as much as it is like, hey, she wasn't ready
before but now she is, so hey, take a look.
Oh, absolutely.
But also now is the season of the arcane so yes yes maybe show Jynx off
um but it just seems like it seems like it's progressing at a virtual fighter series pace.
But we can confirm it exists. I played it it you played it it's it's pretty good. We can confirm.
I played it. You played it. It's pretty good. We can confirm.
But the other thing that I have to point out is that in the blog posts that the devs posted
about 2XKO, they are shortening that game's name in regular conversation to just 2X.
I thought the point of 2XKO was to not have a long name that took a long time to say. And that's why it's this horrible acronym.
Well, I think we did the we had the conversation on this, but like 2XKO is still four syllables.
You have to say. Yeah. And League ofKO is still four syllables you have to sound out.
And League of Legends is also four.
Even though in the brain it's longer.
So now they're bringing it back down to 2X.
Are they just gonna start calling this Tex?
Is that what the name of this game is?
I saw people calling it Tuco.
That's shit. I saw to go being the that's
Way to call it. Yeah, that's a thing
This feels like an X bone scenario
double-cross knockout
In any case
Other news going on. Hideaki Itsuno established head of Lightspeed Japan Studio.
For Tencent!
Yes.
Tencent, owner of Lightspeed Studios, establishes Lightspeed Japan, led by Hideaki
Itsuno, and him sitting on the couch, looking swaggy, says that they are going to focus
on developing AAA action games.
But will they come out so far lightspeed has not put
out stuff no they're brand new okay well no there's lightspeed Japan is new
lightspeed not Japan existed and there was a lightspeed LA that had an announcement for a game called Last
Sentinel earlier this year and there was also I think they did some work on the
release of FF 14 in China but no major particular releases from them directly.
But yeah, it's a 10 cent thing.
Hey man, if he's got original shit and he's been thinking about that he's wanted to do,
30 years at Capcom is a pretty good fucking amount of time.
I'm excited to see what Itsuno does. I really like Itsuno-san's games and I love Devil May Cry and Dragon's Dog when there's
anybody.
I'd be super disappointed if this shit is...
Angels will laugh or whatever non-branded equivalent.
I mean ultimately like, you know, if you get your Bayo off of your DMC style, like,
just, it doesn't matter, like, whatever he's got in mind, whether, you know, even if it's
just far out there, as long as it's fun and stylish and has, you know, a lot of the things
that he's established that he's great at, then we're all going to be excited to play
it.
What I don't like seeing, of course, is just, I don't like seeing the word AAA anymore.
I don't want to read it.
Like, I see it and I go, no, you don't have to do that. Just make the rest of that, whatever
you're going to do, but you don't have to set the standard for cost and-
What are you talking about?
The biggest pusher of the AAA label, Ubisoft, is going to be releasing their hot new game, Assassin's
Creed Shadows, this February. And that's how you know quality. Now the fact that it's
releasing in the middle of a packed season of six other games that all look more interesting,
notwithstanding, AAA is where it's at, brother.
Remember when that word was like, oh shit, oh it's gonna be realistic and has the best
graphics and it's gonna be crazy. Oh man. It's gonna be that lasted for like one year.
Like, it was the idea that was basically like,
it's going to be a console mover
because it's gonna just look so impressive in screenshots
and people are gonna buy Madden,
they're gonna buy Call of Duty,
and they're gonna buy this thing, you know?
And now I'm just like, you are, all you do is you just tell us that you're spending probably more money than you need to. It's so money, brother! Yeah. Is it? So, so, so there's that.
I don't care. I just, I, but yeah, it's you know fucking
Godspeed I'd rather have
20 double a games like what like a dragon's been doing 20
Like less I don't care
Whoo-hoo-hoo! Fucking... like less! I don't care!
In exchange for one triple A!
My point is, is by not making triple A games, they've been...
able to make dozens...
Yeah!
Of comfortable double A's.
Sure, sure, yeah. Single even.
I'm just... you know, whatever you can do, whatever you need to do.
You don't... I just... I like... I... you're... I don't need your game to...
fucking... fight the stock market.
You know?
Dude, you know what game I think of now?
When I think of AAA?
I think of fucking... who put this out?
Uh... was this EA?
Do you remember a fucking game called immortals of avium? Oh?
Where you're shooting the monsters your shoe legend there? It's like a shoot a first-person shooter, but it's all magic shit Yes, yes the one that would that Reggie thought was Mass Effect. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
I remember watching the first trailer for that and being like money in the toilet
just straight like
Just right in the trash and sure enough
Yeah, yeah, so to me. It's it's Agnes philosophy
right
Forspoken forsaken forsaken forsaken for sick no hold on no
No, no the future is forsaken forsaken is the old game from I'm making it for small
Yes, we spoke for spoken is it first book. Yeah, it's called for spoken spoken god damn it
I was damn. It's like yeah, okay, right, right. Oh
Boy Agnes philosophy tech demo. Yeah forgotten
Hey, man, I gotta take a quick break. I'll be right back. Yeah be
next up
Hey blizzard looked down at the keyboard and found the fuck go back button
They said fine leave me alone
Take it for three you guys don't like overwatch. We're making a new better overwatch
It's called overwatch 2, but really it's about story content. Okay, we cancelled the story content, but overwatch 2 still good
Oh wait, you don't like it. What if we just went back to overwatch 1 the game we took away from you
Overwatch 1.0 the back down event begins
The back down event begins. The back down event.
So here's the thing.
Embarrassing.
So Overwatch Classic is coming out and you can play as all the original heroes in all
the original ways.
Mercy with the full res, original strats, original hooks, et cetera.
And maps and so on.
As a limited time event for three weeks.
And it's like, hey guys, come on, come on, it's the event.
And then, you know, and maybe one day you'll boot it up and then you won't notice and you'll
just get queued into a regular match of Overwatch 2 and then we gotcha.
Hey Willy, I have a question. What would you consider classic in a timeline sense?
2016?
Oh, not 2023? Because everyone thinks about Overwatch came out in 2016, but Overwatch was a playable and normal video game up until Overwatch 2's release in 2023.
This classic only left the ability to be played 18 months ago.
So what you'll and you can tell from the way people are responding to it, what it's actually bringing back is
the untouched characters and maps that are no longer removed from the game.
It's old maps and characters in the way that you originally played them, to which, for
me, it's just like, oh, it's the one that I was playing before I stopped playing it.
And for a lot of people, I'm sure it'd be the same.
When I heard about this on stream the other day I described it as a world in
which classic Coke was coming back for three weeks but new Coke is just gonna
be the way forward forever. Well you have to buy a two liter of new Coke and
inside of it there's a classic Coke can that you
have to get at. That's how that's gonna work.
Blizzard is in this weird state in which all they can do is release older,
not ruined versions of their existing games. I tried to find the right musical
artists for it and my brain couldn't find one of just like the
fuck you find, here's my old album, shut up, leave me alone for a limited time only.
Or when you go to the concert, they will refuse to play anything that people came to see.
Maddonna is the all-time greatest because she did an interview about 15 years ago in
which she was talking about how annoying it is
that at her concerts for her new album that people ask her to sing like a virgin. And she said,
you know, I don't even remember the lyrics to that song. That's what I was going to say. She
doesn't. She'd have to remember the words for that. And it's like, that's a lie, Madonna. Oh yeah? You don't remember the words
I can believe
to your biggest hit of all time
that you sang tens of thousands of times on stage?
She's pretty old and there's a lot of alterations going on.
I don't know.
I can believe anything not being forgotten to the great
Equalizer kovid remove your memories of how to sing your own songs
I saw one pop up there Lincoln Park
Modern Lincoln Park and everyone's like
The modern Linkin Park and everyone's like, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh I mean, but you have to admit, it is the ultimate trump card, right?
It's in the playbook.
You go, the last thing is, here's the thing.
It's the thing you know and you want.
Yeah, see, this is...
And it's hooked up to a little string and you get three weeks and then...
So you're completely right, but I feel like Blizzard has ruined this.
Wow, classic. three weeks and then so you're completely right but I feel like Blizzard has ruined this Wow class Blizzard specifically for themselves have ruined
the classic thing because Wow classic was the single most requested thing from
that company for like eight or nine years and then they were like fine and
and it was like really dismissive you
think you want that but you don't like this really higher high and mighty
attitude where it was like no people actually want that they just live they
very much do want that that's interesting you said because where the
fuck was it somewhere in the announcement for this they were talking about
like oh so like what's the plan or like why just three weeks and they're like oh well
you know there's kind of like oh you never know maybe we'll see if we want something like that
to linger but the phrasing in one of the interviews was talking about how like what was it like oh
it's great to see how much the game has changed.
We've added a lot over the years.
Yeah, there's a lot of format changes we wanna,
you can go back and experience the way it was
when it first launched.
It almost, there was something to it
that kind of sounded almost like, hey,
you can go back and see how nuts and crazy it was
so that you can appreciate the current thing.
Yeah, how slick it is now.
Look how crazy and wild and great dumb it used to be.
Now you'll appreciate it.
So yeah, no, when they did that with Wow Classic,
I have a lot of friends who are like, yeah, no,
this is better.
It was better. I like it better. The old WoW Classic, I have a lot of friends who are like, yeah, no, this is better. It was better. I like it better. The old way, the old WoW was better. And then you get to
like, Oh, you know what? Well, at least they're remastering their games like Warcraft three.
Oh, you mean the game they took away from you and then ruined Warcraft three was removed
off your Blizzard account and replaced with Warcraft 3 reforged, which
is ruined.
And then they removed Overwatch from being able to be played and replaced it with Overwatch
2, which is worse, but also, like I've said every day, every time I ever talk about Overwatch,
that Overwatch is the only game I have ever played in my life that every single patch made it worse. Every single change was worse than the version
before. It's the only game I have ever seen like that.
In the trailer, it was like three weeks two tanks
You know as they're doing a little little countdown and then they specifically show you
mercy doing the full team res and
You know all the other all the other infamous things. So
Yeah, people will be a lot less mad about everything if they went back and redid Warcraft 3 Reforged.
But I do think it's the same subtext you're mentioning here of like, man, look how dumb
and busted it was. Don't you appreciate the new thing more?
No.
As a result, I think that energy is coming through here too. I hope people can see our
willingness to experiment and take risks.
You probably wouldn't label doing a classic mode as a risk.
We're experimenting with format changes for season 13, different team sizes, 6v6 formats
in season 14, and there's going to be limited time events.
So when's this classic?
When's that running? November 12th to December 3rd December 3rd. Oh
It's three days before Marvel Rivals comes out on the 6th
So we've gone from the blizzard.
We have gone from the blizzard that is so confident about the quality of their games
that they are actively planning their open betas and releases to kill other games. You remember the open beta for Overwatch was announced to kill
Battleborn.
I'm sure you remember that.
Yeah, Marvel Rivals releasing on December 6th.
And they would announce World of Warcraft release dates to kill
other games as well.
And we've now moved it to make sure you do this classic event before
rivals comes out oh shit oh shit the sabotage hey remember the original come
on back don't go away don't go over there and you know what I mean shit it
might work if the whole team gets fucking arrested and
locked up by the time it launches yeah that's pretty wild actually like maybe
over at rivals getting fucking money launderer right right you you hey that's
it you go hey check out the classics check out the old don't look over there
they're like nah fuck you blizzard you're not gonna trick me I'm gonna look
over there and you look over there you They're like, nah, fuck you, Blizzard. You're not gonna trick me. I'm gonna look over there.
And you look over there
and you see a fucking police car pulling up
and dudes getting slammed in the back seat.
Sirens are going off.
What the fuck is happening over in Rivals?
So yeah, apparently nine employees at Marvel Rivals and Destiny Rising over at NetEase
got arrested, including two senior executives for laundering money to the tune of some 200 million plus dollars
Or over a billion yuan
Whatever the fuck is happening over there I headed this games launch is so this is pretty nuts
this is um
This is total rabid speculation by me pulling this out of my butt.
But like, I remember looking at Marvel rivals and we played the, the open beta and I was
like, wow, compared to, uh, compared to other netties's games this thing looks like super slick and super polished and like there's a ton of money going into it and
I
guess some of that money was going into it and
Coming out in a very specific way. Yes
That was a lot of my allegedly allegedly and it
The two executives apparently, yeah, some 27 other different companies are linked to
the fraud case.
That's a big number.
That's a big amount.
And this is pretty significant.
And if that is, yeah, if that's coming, if that's important to the budget at all.
Oh my God, yeah.
So somebody points out that specifically it's people in the eSports and
publication departments.
And that makes perfect sense, right?
Okay, okay, okay.
Yeah, I'm going to pay this player $400,000 a year to play eSports.
Does that player exist?
Totally.
Totally!
They're right over there!
Or not even the team and the players,
but even just the establishment of a league, right?
Oh, I'm gonna need this chunk of the budget
to create the league.
Bro. And plan the events
and do the whole thing, you know?
It could just be a simple thing.
You know what, man?
Sports.
Esports is catching up.
Esports, sports, sports, sports, sports, sports, sports.
Esports is catching up eSports sports sports sports sports sports eSports is catching up
People that go into prison
For financial crimes they're catching up baseball
The drugs aren't here yet, but Adderall is already they are here. They are absolutely here
man
so here's the
man so here's the
Like so yeah overwatch is just like it's just playing a sad old game of like
Texting you back sending letter dumps even after being blocked
You know try to find sideways ways to hit you up on like whatsapp or overwatch is like hey
You remember how good we were together before I before I fucked your boss and torched your
Clothes look at the photos. Yeah, my phone just sent me this memory good times
It's great. You know all my real reminded me of how good we were but
But the current Bay is like yeah, don't worry about it, babe. I just got to talk to the judge
It'll be like two, three days tops.
I'll be, you know.
I got-
It's a misunderstanding.
It's a misunderstanding.
My cousin's a lawyer.
We got this covered.
It's fine.
Don't worry about it.
It's, you know, we'll be straight in five minutes.
Don't worry about it.
Don't do that.
Don't read the news.
Don't look at the newspaper.
You know what?
Just don't even take any phone calls until I get home.
And you're just like.
Damn, but he kills it when he's here, right?
When he's around, it's good, though, right?
That game plays incredible. It's so good Wow
Well anyway, I gotta admit I'm shocked more
Parts of large gaming publishers don't get fucking caught with their money
laundering shit.
Oh, yeah.
No, the question is not like where, but like just simply how many and not if, but how many.
And you have to kind of wonder in these types of cases where it's like, okay, so NetEase
is getting pulled up.
Did somebody not get their skim?
Did somebody not grease a palm that's supposed to be greased?
Did someone that-
The system failed somewhere.
Is this now is the system working one where the grease is consistent throughout the entire
conveyor belt?
You know?
Is that baked in?
Somebody was unhappy with their circumstance within the system.
Or really afraid of going to jail themselves.
Somewhat an accountant doesn't suddenly carry the two,
An accountant doesn't suddenly carry the two, look at the numbers and go, oh my god, where did $200 million go?
I just don't know, man.
All of a sudden in a single TPS report.
I don't know.
No, actually what does happen is that the national IRS equivalent goes,
wait, wait, these numbers don't make any sense.
Maybe I should look a little more careful into these.
None of these numbers make any sense.
Where does the money go?
Yeah.
Anyone could get pulled for any reason at any time that may or may not have anything
to do with what's happening on the books or what they say, you know, never forget.
Jack Ma can get disappeared for a month, come back and be like, it's cool.
So there was that.
And well, we were talking about cheaters earlier.
Here's a particularly interesting one. The PS5 Pro has dropped and it appears
that scalpers are forced to sell them at a loss because they bought up a bunch on release
in anticipation of the price hike that would come once the console became unavailable,
which the console continues to be readily available at major retailers everywhere.
I could walk into a store near my house.
I could go to my Best Buy and just pick one up right now.
It would be not a problem.
I've seen them.
Nope.
No issues whatsoever. It's it's very very very available it's it's it's so available and as a result the
yeah the gamble has led to a number of scalpers being forced to shove them up on resale sites at a loss.
So awesome.
Too bad, so sad.
Wop Wop.
Play again.
Dude, I found out that the PS5 Pro was out by seeing the scalper article.
That's awesome.
That's great.
That's great.
I mean, you don't really think about that on the back end
when you release something that is not
going to move because people are not
about purchasing that at that rate, at that price.
And then the scalpers go, it's a new PS PlayStation.
Go get it.
Who cares?
What the fuck?
I don't know who this fucking thing is for, man.
You know?
Fucking $1,100 console. People people who are gonna spend that have a PC
that's too much the the digital foundry came out reviewing other features and
everything on it and one of the main takeaways was that Elden ring remains
undefeated cannot hitot hit stable 60.
Unbelievable. On that either.
Never goes below the 48, but it can't get a rock-solid 60.
Yeah.
Nonsense.
I do wish that it were not once per decade that a scalper come up in story would happen, but I'll take him where we can get him, I suppose.
Hey, you know what? You know what? Hey, you know what? We're not going to hear a scalper
come up in story about? The Nintendo ounces or whatever the fuck it's gonna be called
the switch to
Is that the I didn't hear that what's that the ounce is the code word that that?
That code name that came out for the Pokemon shit. Oh, yes. Yes
but um
You'll get ready to fight to get one of those things
Get ready to fight to get one of those things. Get ready to fucking kick a mother of four down the stairs and steal her switch to. It's mine.
I'm going to wait for the game announcement that needs that
that to get it.
Oh, they announced that game.
They announced that game.
You can play your Switch games on a more powerful piece of hardware, so they might act like real video games.
Right, right, okay, that game.
That old cult-
Age of Calamity, Hyrule Warriors may actually be coming out sure
See, but the thing is if you're going like Metroid Prime 4 or whatever
It's like okay
Well, then when that exists and there's a trailer and a release date and a thing that I know is going to occur at a point
In time at that point in time I can go and deal with it
But I don't there's no benefit necessarily if I'm not really gonna be doing much with it. My shits collecting dust right over there, you know
Yeah, I just wonder is a reason to interact with it. There's one is when I'm down to go
I don't I don't have to get in early particularly
There are so many switch games that I would like to play that every time I pick them up and play them. I go
and
You know, well so timing wise enough. I know that I was planning to replace my PS5
anyway, because besides the storage space bit, recently playing with metaphor and such,
you know, punch mom was kind of taking a look and was looking at getting into F07 R2, which
means we can't do what we did last time, where before we did a, she
used my PS4 to connect to the PS5 when I wasn't using it to play PS5 and do the stream thing.
But in this case, that's just not going to work as much because how frequently it's
being used and everything. So my current PS5 is going to probably need to go there and
do that. So the whole thing is going to get shaken up anyway. So like I said, I'm sooner likely to grab one of these than whatever
ounces is going to be necessarily unless they fucking hit me with the right
exclusive announcement or something from the jump.
But yeah, I would, you know, what made me laugh really hard if the Nintendo switch tour is like we've taken
Many steps to ensure that Nintendo switch games will be exactly as you remember them and will be emulated
Exactly as they were on the Nintendo switch and then they just put up a fucking
on the Nintendo Switch and then they just put up a fucking piece of footage of Hyrule Warriors calamity whatever just at fucking ten frames going look how accurate it is just
like you remember it.
Just a black and white nostalgia filter of booting up the emulator. Oh god, well anyway, that's that's all good times.
I will.
Oh, do we have the the Nintendo Pal World lawsuit on there?
Oh, no, but.
Okay, so here's the fun bit.
I'm just gonna fly right through it.
I'll let you know Nintendo's
Patents lawsuit against power world like the details have come out
And it's all really it's exactly what people thought it was it was like throwing the ball and catching the monster
And just really a lame ass mechanical shit the tons of other games do three in particular. Yeah, yeah more importantly is
Shit the tons of other games do three in particular. Yeah, yeah more importantly is
That all of these patents were filed after fucking pal world got announced mm-hmm, and they were they were
They were filed worldwide after pal world came out
So It just feels like they saw pal world and then they filed all this shit with the
plan to sue them over it later.
Um, so if I hold out my my buddy device and then my monster comes out of it directly,
but I don't throw it to catch necessarily, that's fine.
Um, and many of these things these things that they did in the
power world devs did in their prior game called craftopia so like Nintendo is
just flat out in the wrong it's just again it's the fact that the vibes are
so on point as opposed to every other oh I, I'm wrong here. Oh, of course. OK.
I was going to say every other Pokemon clone,
this is the one that has been the most
shameless and fucking taking the piss.
This is Monty Python's Pokemon.
So I think the energy that Pal World has
is part of why Nintendo is so upset at it.
I'm now seeing people argue with me when I say I'm wrong that I'm not wrong.
This is awesome.
I see.
Okay.
Well, so it was the, yeah, but I saw it's the Pokeball toss, it's the riding of the
monsters and I forget what the third thing was.
It's shit that a billion other games do that Nintendo would never
Have them sued because that's stupid but renewal filing is that what it is?
So they yeah the renewal filing was in 2024 the original filing was in 2021 after power world was announced
Okay, and after craftopia already had many of these features. Okay
Well, if that if that is the case then though then renewal, then the filing is not as spiteful a point,
but nonetheless, I do wonder, is Nintendo coming after any other Pokemon clones that have been
released in the years since Red and Blue?
No.
No.
So, they're asking for 60k, which is like really small, but they're also asking for an injunction
to ban sale.
And apparently I saw some lawyers talking about how fighting the lawsuit could cost
millions because of just the time and hours required and patent law and all that shit. But I kind of expect, my gut says that what we're gonna see is like a settlement in which
Pal World either changes that shit or just doesn't sell it in Japan.
Well, I'm just like, well, how hard and how out of character would it be for Pal World
to just remove the ball and make nothing?
You know, like whatever, some light appears from the sky and it just appears, whatever.
And then okay, you don't fly on it, but you maybe bend her, chariot it.
Yeah, turn it, you know what, have it, like scoop up dead pals into a fucking drum and
resurrect them.
Fuck it. Like, I don't, like throwing a cube, I resurrect them. Fuck it.
Like throwing a cube, I think is not gonna work.
I think the throwing of the object is gonna be the problem.
So, you know, whatever.
It lighten the sky, shines, it comes,
who the fuck cares?
Some bullshit happens and then your pal is on screen.
You know, flying on the backs of the things
or riding on the backs of the things as a mount.
It's crazy that mounting is an issue compared to any other game that has that concept. These are
stupid dumb changes that they can make.
Yeah, Nintendo's evil and they're stupid and they're the most regressive anti-consumer,
anti-innovation developer slash publisher in the industry, like period. And it's always been that way. The way they've treated everybody
with their IP is always like, no, but us though.
No, it's not.
No, you don't do it though.
No, not you, but us though.
We'll steal your emulator that you made and your versions of
games, but like don't you fucking emulate our games.
No, no, it's Nintendo. Nintendo.
I fully look forward to the update that changes these features But like, don't you fucking emulate our games. No, no, it's Nintendo. Nintendo.
I fully look forward to the update
that changes these features and introduces
a new Hanifuna card company as an evil faction in the world.
Oh, that'd be awesome as shit.
That just dumps their pals into mulch
in order to create the,
to create the the the
To create the hanafuda ink you know to print on their cards
That'd be great
Yeah All right, let's take some letters. Hey if you want to send a letter in send it to castle super beast mail gmail.com
That's castle super beast mail at gmail.com wait i wanted to call to everyone's attention a
new game announcement
That looks pretty cool
It's called acts of blood and it is the raid
cross seafood
Okay, well that okay, okay i'm okay yep go Yep. Go check it out. It's I got that gritty
Raid style character fighting in the rain doing sifu shit beat him up
Looks like a thing
calling it to your attention there's a demo available and
Yeah, I
Wow, that really is just raid slash sifu. Yeah
I I I wow that really is just raid slash seafood. Yeah
That's that's I can't describe it any other way
Acts of blood I'm gonna check out to see what's going on
Philippines is doing some stuff
We'll see
Cool
All right
We got a letter coming in over here Hey Hey, Pat and Woolie, every once in a while, historians will dig up a jar of honey or pickles
that's been preserved for decades.
Would you eat a decades old pickle?
Thank you for your time, Gabe.
I wouldn't eat a pickle that's fucking fresh from the goddamn jar right now.
Oh, there you go
I
Need honey though. I need old honey
Honey doesn't go bad. Honey keeps. Yeah, honey keeps crazy
I've had natto so I've already ventured into that territory. I guess the question is is like what?
Fermented ass thing would you do would you actually opt in to try I?
Try a lot of things I
For money I
Like kimchi I could probably do some really strong kimchi because I really enjoy the flavor and taste of that of all the ball
Okay, like hold on if somebody if I'm at a place and somebody offers me a new food and it's like weird or something
I'll try I'll put it in my mouth and I'll try it right, but we're not talking about that. We're talking about
That we we have the black sarcophagus juice. Yeah, do you want a sip? So how much for a can of sirs thrombing?
I don't think I have the capability to actually eat that like I think I would try but I don't think I'd be able to get
Near it. I think my body would rebel and fight me and
More most importantly how much to open that can in your kitchen Oh
Zero no not doing it. Oh
man, apparently once you get past the absolute fucking blight town gas that comes out of
it the flavor of the meat is not the worst in the world, but it's just that the...
You're selling me.
You're selling me.
Yeah, but they have to...
The herring needs to ferment in its own rotten juices and for that the canning process is
Ideal so it's the gas release is not the flavor of the meat is what I've been told
Bro, I'm the kind of guy who will have a bite of yogurt be like this tastes off and dump the fucking
the rest of the tub like
Food goes bad. You shouldn't eat food that goes bad, and I don't care if you tell me no, it's supposed to go bad. Shut up
This is the Europeans trying to trick us I
mean
Dairy, you know in general you wanna you wanna you don't fuck with
I
Would do with. I would do kimchi. If something kimchi based, I can take an aged kimchi providing
that it's within the realm of-
Okay, but that's like a regular food that people eat.
But I mean an aged kimchi. I think I could take. Of the aged foods, it's the one that
I think I like the most
Blue cheese is good. I like blue cheese. Blue cheese is fantastic
Although blue cheese itself raw versus blue cheese like cream or no you have to put blue cheese on something you can't
That's yeah, you can't
All right
Durandal here says how do you nurgling Patton Zergling Woolly?
Simple question.
What is your favorite faction and unit hero from a strategy game?
It can range from traditional to 4X grand strategy, et cetera.
Have a good week.
Stay safe.
Man, I'm a big fan of those siege tanks.
Siege tanks and siege mode and switching out is pretty rad.
I don't know.
To this day, I still randomly think about ghosts.
They're good.
The way they move with the gun on the ground, like the giant rifle, it reminds me of that
one scene in Spriggan where he pulls off the giant gun from the
back of the tank and he's dragging it on the ground.
The fact that they're stealthy and that you can hide outside the base, get intel,
and then call in the nuke.
The whole thing with ghosts is just so, so cool.
Big, big, big fan of that.
And the functionality of what an Archon is, is also super rad.
Doing a fusion dance with two units to create a powerful one permanently, that's a cool
concept. There are an enormous amount of units that I would say fit this thing for me from Dawn
of War 1.
The Warhammer 40k units.
There's a, I forget the name of it, but the final unit for the Necron and Dark Crusade was this absolutely ridiculously gigantic
floating pyramid
That just vaporized everything that came near it and it was the coolest fucking thing. Okay
Special shout out to the canine in red alert
Shout out to the canine in Red Alert.
Simple. Oh yeah.
Simple but effective.
You put a dog down, a soldier runs by it.
Rawr!
Unit lost.
Oh man, you got a lot.
Oh, the mammoth tank from CNC Gold is so good.
And you know what?
Grenadiers from Command and Conquer.
Sure.
As a generic unit. We're so good
Tanya oh
Yeah, commando commando from fucking from command and conquer absolutely for me ready. Yeah, Tanya red alert hit the building
Tesla coils
Sick yeah, those those those those are the faves
Sick. Yeah, those those those those are the faves. I mean, I wish real time strategy games weren't just completely fucking dead.
Did they not just evolve into mobers?
Those are very different genres. That's like saying I wish beat-emups came back, and you're like, but fighting games are here.
Yeah, no, I know.
And I know that the same audience
moved on to that one as well.
But you kind of, like, yeah, I guess you just,
someone needs to be a champion of the old genre
and hold onto it no matter what the tide is doing.
Pikmin?
Pikmin is not. Does that count? Come on.
Okay.
No.
Eventually the audience changed, but it did.
That was the pipeline, right?
You RTS into MOBA.
Oh yeah, it's very direct pipeline.
Yeah, that's the basis of where the fan base,
how it started so big to begin with. Well, it's easy to control one unit in a in a RTS game
Yeah, it's very well that's yeah, so I
Remember God I remember commandos the game were and it was just like it's like an RTS, but there's no buildings
It's just the units
There have been a lot of games that are like, what if you just didn't have to build anything
in the RTS game?
Wouldn't that be more fun?
And the answer is no, actually.
For a huge amount of people, building up your big base is like a huge appeal.
Depends man.
You know, again, I'm out here talking about Syndicate again.
You know, like I like just controlling the crew.
And that's the thing.
I should play Zephon.
I'm a fan.
I enjoy it.
All right.
Let's take one from...
Okay, well, no straight name given given. Hey Cool Willy and Cool Pat.
What is the- Oh yeah! What is the coolest Dreamcast game?
Circa 2001. My call is Crazy Taxi and Jet Grind Radio.
What am I missing? I mean, coolest. So I know I can I've got the list
off. Oh, yeah, no, even I don't even like the Dreamcast. And I have the list in my head.
It's unstoppable bad. Jetset radio, Soul Calibur, res, skies of Arcadia, Third Strike, Marvel 2, Power Stone, Ikaruga, Space Channel 5.
You can't beat that lineup, dude.
It's incredible.
It's either Jet Set, Marvel, Third Strike, or...
Project Justice?
Seaman. Seaman. Yeah. I mean if I, if you ask me I would say
House of the Dead 2, the greatest game that's ever been made. There you go. But
but that lineup was why I cared so much about that console and why I like always
wanted to have one. Like it was just like just great arcade II fucking there is an
arcade machine in your house man all right last one over here dear pad
that egg and vils worth hold on I have a new answer okay The last batch of good sports games to ever exist. Oh, the 2k series. Yes.
The 2k games. Okay. History made them even cooler than they were at the time. Powerful
answer. NFL 2k got fucking played. Man. And that was while I was... Okay, so I talk about when we used to buy Madden every
year, we were a household that would do the seasons. And when Madden was phasing out,
and we just kind of were not really playing football games as much, fucking the 2K games
were in.
Bro, I am like, every time we mentioned sports games, I get like legitimately pissed off
that a genre that I used to really enjoy just doesn't exist.
I mean like annualized.
I spent money every year.
Oh yeah dude.
I had 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I mean look, yeah, the street games were cool and that that's in the kind of NBA Jam arcadey kind of thing
But I'm no straight up talking about real actual sports simulator games
Aggressively spent money on those man. I'm like, you know what else I would like to play a new game of I would like to play an
arcade
racing game, please
So there are
Wipeout likes that have come out since. No, no, I didn't say hovercraft
fucking bullshit
There is also no there. There's a couple. There's a couple because there's there's those there's um, uh
What the fuck is it called? There was a Daytona style
Uh, what the fuck is it called? There was a Daytona style indie game that was just like, obviously not Drift Stage,
but there was something that was announced that was like, I forget what it was called.
Yeah, so what I'm trying to describe is a little more specific, but it's like, there's hyper throwback arcade game from 94 to 97.
But when I say I'd like to play an arcade racing game,
I mean every single racing game that came out
between Need for Speed 2 and Burnout Paradise
in which they were more or less realistic cars,
but they controlled like an arcade racing game
I think the last one of those was hot pursuit 2 and it's awesome
But that's that's beyond the actual age of going to the arcade and popping a quarter
Yeah, play one of these things because when you say that I think of I popped money into Daytona
I popped money into cruising, you know or or fucking hydro thunder or some shit like like someone in chat says I would should play forza
I've played forza forza is a fucking Gran Turismo clone. That's not what I want. I wouldn't use arcade to describe
Well, well, that's how it was described at the time. It's got confusing over time. Yeah. Yeah, okay, okay
You got extra confusing when versions of Need for Speed 3 and 4 became arcade machines
Hmm
Okay, I'm like if I go to the movie theater and I see that machine there that that that's the arcade style racer
I'm thinking of like that. You know the ones that would be at the theater
Anyways, I just want to play burnout. I just want burnout to exist
be at the theater. Anyways, I just want to play Burnout. I just want Burnout to exist. Driving games, not driving sims? No, no one ever called those driving games ever. No one
has ever called Burnout Paradise a driving game. I mean, I would say non-simulator fun
racing would be my genre. You know what? I've played two of the Forza Horizon games. I would like to play a fun
racing game. Yeah. That is good and fun to play. Top Gear 2 lives in my heart forever.
Split second for me. Man, split second. Great answer. That's a good fucking game. Yep, burnout. You know.
All right. And last one over here.
Dear Patrick and Vulsvoth.
What's up?
You ever experienced a scenario where inaccurate leaks and negative doom posting in a community
have unfairly poisoned the discourse around the release of something you were looking
forward to, misinformation so widely circulated as true that it becomes
difficult to distinguish nuanced criticism from negative circle-jerking in said discourse
and communities."
So, that's a very specific phrasing.
So, it's like, what's the context?
A lot of games are like that.
That happens a lot.
Popular manga, Oshinoko, will have its final chapter on Wednesday. For the last
several weeks, chapter discussions have been pretty toxic on a significant portion of the fanbase,
reading poorly translated leaked spoilers instead of the actual chapters. You'll see comments with
hundreds of upvotes referring to poorly written dialogue and plot points that never actually
happened in the official chapter. By the time anyone calls them out, it's too late. People
parrot the misinformation in future threads. It's frustrating watching the vocal portion of the community judge a piece of media on
false preconceptions and spreads, negativity outside of the community."
So I got got for this on Attack on Titan.
Attack on Titan immediately came to mind.
And it wouldn't have been, so a lot of that is my knee-jerk response, but more than that,
more than me being responsible for how I felt, there's someone else who is at fault, and
it's not me.
No, it would have been a lot easier to move through that extremely negative feeling.
Is it Aaron Yeager?
No, no, no.
It would be a lot easier for me to move through that extremely negative feeling. Is it Eren Yeager? No, no, no. It would be a lot easier for me to move through that extremely negative feeling and give AOTs
later bits more of a chance if the anime hadn't been released in the most fucked up, bizarre
way possible.
Because I would have been able to go, oh, the season is out, I'll just watch it and
I'll see.
And the two things I have to that.
One, what I said in the actual discussion was that
Attack on Titan's anime ending benefited heavily from the extra time it took to and the adjustments,
the changes, things that were, you were able to see dialogue improvements and expansion of things
that were rushed and stupid about the manga version. So it got a lot more better it got a lot better and things made more sense originally than they did so that that's a big thing.
The release of Attack on Titan being so fucked up and everything I found out that a big part
of that was because Mappa this they had similar things going on with Jujutsu Kaisen where
season two is fucking insane over the top,
incredible quality animation and stuff, but there was a ton of churn with artists and
people were crunching out and the amount of work they had to do was being stacked to the
ceiling. And so basically Attack on Titan's release schedule was the product of this is as much
like high quality work as this team can do in this time frame and
like the idea was essentially you either
wait a super long time for it all to
come out in you know one big thing or
Put it out piecemeal as they go and
Yeah, the release schedule was basically like a product of the artists being able to only do so much. And there's people that were
like kind of reporting, and we're finding out now that like, even with that, they still
should have had more time and more breaks and should have been paid more as well and
all these things, you know?
So like at the time I'm like, yeah, Attack on Titan, the final season, part A, act B,
fucking 3.2, whatever.
It's like it's super silly when you're looking at it.
And then when it's like, yeah, because there's a team of people on the other end of this
that are like only capable of putting out so much and they're already being worked to the fucking bone it's like okay fine fair
enough that shouldn't be happening that sucks you know so I think the most
interesting version of this possible is a Bioware situation and it's when a huge amount of story details for Mass Effect 3 leaked out onto 4chan, like
months and months and months ahead of the game's release, and they were very negative.
And then NeoGaff had a threat on it, and then in order to confirm that shit, BioWare sent them a cease and desist
to take the thread down.
And a bunch of that, it was a green text, so it was like, how biased could this be?
But it created this very negative aura around the game and then when it came out they did rewrite some of the stuff
But like most of that shit was in there strides and
The gut feeling of that can't possibly be that stupid was then given to you with yes, actually it is
And was just like, it was just the worst of all possible worlds.
Just like there was ending shit in there and people were like, there's no way.
And that led to the questions to Casey Hudson about what the ending would be like,
to which he responded, it's not going to be red, blue or green.
And then it literally was that red, blue, or green. And then it literally
was that. Just the worst possible version of events.
But just the idea of like a green text thread and then it's like, oh, peaceful as shit.
And then it's like, oh, P posts, they fucking cease and desist. Well, then why are there
lawyers coming at me? Yeah? hard confirms and like it to be fair like
Reading plot points wildly out of their own context always sucks unless they're what you were wanting
like always
Why do it?
Pardon, why do you do it? Why do I do it? Well, you've done it.
You've done it a couple of times with.
Because I'm stupid.
Okay.
Is that what you want?
No, I'm just I'm just like I the the there are there are times when when the the the
wiki dive will just never satisfy, you know.
But I guess if there's an upper limit on how much you can give a fuck about said thing to begin with and you know
So like sometimes it doesn't always suck like I remember
When I failed out of playing horizon for the third time in a row I was like I'm just gonna look up the twist
I wonder what the fucking yeah, okay, okay, and then I looked it up and I was like, oh
That's pretty good. Actually. Like, I like that.
So there is some tilt to it, right? But yeah, I know this was a situation where it's like
the leaks came out and they're really bad and you were like, nah. And it's like, totally was just, it was exactly the thing you were worried about.
Boy, they should have taken that time to look at reaction to that and maybe put
the goddamn ending better.
Well, no, because the, like, the, the only thing worse than all of the above is the
deliberate swerve after the public
finds out or guesses what you're going to do, like Lost or Game of Thrones or fucking
Star Wars type shit, where it's like, oh no, the writers saw that people online figured
it out and decided to specifically go against that shit. Really, don't forget, don't forget, Wooly, that Mass Effect 3's new direction had already
swerved because people were starting to figure it out. So this leak was a reaction to the
swerve.
Fucking Westworld, dude. Fucking Westworld, dude. Every time. time no you know what it's a one season show don't
worry about it it is a one season Anthony Hopkins masterpiece and that's all there is
to it man god I wonder if you asked him about like season two and beyond if he would just
punch you was he in it it? It feels like...
I'm...
I'm going to... I'm pretty sure no.
Then does he even know?
And I feel as if
he might just punch you if you asked him.
Which is the correct response.
Anyway.
Anyway. Alright.
That'll do. Have a nice day everybody.
Goodbye.