Castle Super Beast - CSB296: DRAKEWASHING

Episode Date: November 27, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 ["Sailor Moon Theme"] I have already started my last stream by screaming mustard. So my only question is, does Paige know that her time has arrived? I gotta be honest I have no idea what you're talking about. I keep seeing people say it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. It's on the new album. So let me, yeah. So I'll give you the Cliff Notes on it, right? It's a very good album. It's awesome. There's a lot of good shit on it. And there is some absolute banger tracks, one of which is a titular track, TV Off, which is going to likely be a single, a major single. It's hot. It's got a lot going on and there's a nice little beat switch up in the middle of it with a little build up. and then, you know, it feels as if Kendrick is for the most part, he's passed his bull-
Starting point is 00:01:29 he's passed the bullshit, he's doing his own thing, but there's these little hints and little references to the things that we have to acknowledge. One of which is Mustard on the beat ho and as soon as you hear that Kendrick jumps in and screams at the top of his lungs with the deepest hatred in the world And he holds it as the beat gets started and Then you know gets into the turn the TV off turn the TV off kind of chorus Does another verse and then for the second time around just in case you didn't hear him Mm-hmm from the depths of his soul mustard for the second time around, just in case you didn't hear him. From the depths of his soul.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Mustard. So, you're telling me that you're telling me that you think the TV off is going to be a really popular song this year? I think people are going to be screaming Mustard in the streets and people are going to either be confused or going, yeah. You know what? Yeah, just despite the fact that in the coming months you may be in fact right and that I'm going to be seeing video after video of people in public places, pools, barbecues, clubs, parks, places of work, and just randomly
Starting point is 00:02:48 on the street screaming mustard like you just did. Yeah, I don't think that's actually that popular. I think it's actually fake. I think that is a falsehood that will be perpetrated upon your eyes and ears. Oh no. Are we going to send the lawyers to stop people? Hey, stop screaming mustard everybody stop getting high All right, all right, let's listen we'll we'll get there. We'll get there believe like it's
Starting point is 00:03:18 You know the posts are set we can we can hey, let's enjoy the traipse through the flowers all right um It's so it's just to me me i'm just like oh the word mustard it has stonks at an all-time high so again i don't know what that means for for page but i hope she can find a way so she's been listening to the album and i haven't okay but like like we're not playing it around the child yeah because he's he's at the word acquisition stage okay and so I don't want yeah don't want a fucking incident okay the last thing the last thing we'd need is the child screaming mustard as well followed by you know everything that comes yeah yeah anything else yeah mean talk about none I mean I don't think she's gotten there because she hasn't mentioned it to me yeah okay well
Starting point is 00:04:15 it's it's it's great it's a lot it's a whole lot of fun and there's a lot there's a lot that is that has happened like has happened since and back and forth. But there's a level of like, obviously there's skits and bits and things where he just drops it at like 9 a.m. and then the next day just drops a video unceremoniously just, yup, bam, it's out, here it is. Right? You're big enough, you're popular enough, you can ignore the rules of how you send things out, you can just make things a surprise.
Starting point is 00:04:51 And Kendrick Lamar, I also believe somewhere, because he could have held on or not for however long he wanted with this, I'm thinking that at least part of this was, okay, look, when I do a Super Bowl halftime show, we can't do certified pedophiles six times back to back for the entire halftime. No, I should probably have some new songs. Like, we're gonna get the entire stadium to say it, right? But we can't push it and have it go back to back to
Starting point is 00:05:26 back like the pop-out so let it let it go down and maybe even a second time right and then and then let's have some new music for everybody but it is going down make no mistake you know I think we've recovered from the absolute nuclear devastation that was Janet Jackson's nipple. You know, I never thought that we as a people would be able to, you know, rebuild after everything, all the damage that caused, but here we are. How's Kendrick going to get 60,000 bots into the Super Bowl to sing the song with that? That's that aren't people going to notice that is in fact a feat. You know, that's quite that's
Starting point is 00:06:13 going to be quite a challenge. And I have seen people popping up. You know, black Twitter's had a lot to say and is but like there's been people popping up going, Oh, about half of those are me, by the way, your honor. That all those streams. That was me. I'm responsible for at least a half of those. I admit it. I have not stopped, you know, fucking rocking it since.
Starting point is 00:06:39 You want and then of course, there is you know hey look and like and now with your shot comes your chaser it is the whitest thing Drake has done is what they're calling it. How does how does a man reach up through the grave dirt and grab some more and just scoop it onto himself and then lean back into the dirt. So we talked about a lawsuit like six months ago and we talked about how one, it would be the ultimate bitch move. It would be the most, and I vividly remember saying that he would be more respected if he just shot Kendrick
Starting point is 00:07:29 than if he filed a lawsuit, right? So here's the bit. I ultimately think that the most embarrassing outcome of a rat beef up until now has been Machine Gun Kelly Yeah, I was about to say where he quit. of a rap beef up until now has been Machine Gun Kelly. Yeah, I was about to say where he quit. Getting just completely ousted from the genre, right? Self-imposed exile is ultimately the most embarrassing bit. You're like, damn, completely wrapped out of a career,
Starting point is 00:08:01 reinvented himself successfully as, you know as a creator of Baby's Mama music. Sure. Love ballads and shit. So that has been the bar. But now you've got this, the brand new level, that is I am filing a lawsuit against your production company and your labels and UMG because stop making fun of me, it's getting too popular, I think you're artificially
Starting point is 00:08:37 boosting, not like us, it didn't get that many hits though, it didn't get that many plays. So I wanna be super clear because I've been reading about this all morning because this rap beef, the hatred in it is so, it's, oh I love it. I'm going to hyper fixate on it. So there's no lawsuit. That's the one thing that's actually super, super like being taken away. There's no lawsuit. This is called a pre-action legal filing or something. Basically he's taking lawyers and he's forcing people at Universal Music Group to give him depositions that he could use for future lawsuits.
Starting point is 00:09:22 I am establishing the groundwork here to show you that I am trying to get this accomplished within good faith so that when it comes to conflict later, your honor, I've proven that I tried to resolve this amicably. So basically he's forcing the people at UMG to have to talk to him to give him information for a possible lawsuit. And the claim is that UMG and Kendrick Lamar conspired to artificially inflate the popularity of Not Like Us via botting and targeted, a targeted production and that they, and that they all worked together to make sure that the song was as big as it was. Now let's ignore the fact that like Kendrick just appeared with the song that appeared to be completely produced by himself in his
Starting point is 00:10:19 house with his friends out of nowhere. Um, and it showed up on his fucking YouTube channel and shit like that before it hits by whatever whatever So the point the somebody on the subreddit Really summed it up incredibly. This is from jag 176 Who found a tweet by uno deuce raps? Drake there is a song calling you a gay deadbeat pedophile who runs a sex trafficking ring with 500 million streams on Spotify, to which Drake's pre-legal response is, it doesn't have 500 million streams.
Starting point is 00:10:57 And that was yesterday. Yes, yes. This morning, like an hour and a half ago, he files the same- Sir, a second plane has hit the tower, the same pre action legal, not quite a lawsuit stating that Kendrick Lamar and the, the, the universal media group or music group. I think she's in. Yeah. Um, conspired to defame him and knowingly did him harm for things they knew were false, which if Kendrick had in the song, Aubrey Drake, uh, Graham is a kiddie toucher and he, I saw him
Starting point is 00:11:42 touch a kid and he is guilty under the law, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, okay, maybe, because that's tough. But he said he was a creep and he's creepy around little girls. And in discovery, they're going to pull up the footage of Drake making out with a 17-year-old in front of hundreds of thousands of people going yeah that was good I like that and dating girls on their 18th birthday and making super good good friends with a bunch of 10 year olds on movie sets. Play it for the jury your honor. Yeah I saw like there's like photos of like Millie Bobby Brown in like recent photoshoots
Starting point is 00:12:23 and she kind of like looks like she's like you know she looks very mature like like middle-aged almost and like she skipped past like a young woman stage straight into middle-aged because of Drake just to get her to get away from that shit it's crazy how like from tailor-made to bitch-made one man can be and to then Pretend like to have this energy about him because he also went on an xqc stream and was kind of like oh it takes Facts to take me down not not fiction and not stories or whatever and to basically continue this idea of being Unbothered and just being like we celebrate a loss It's a good time. And it's like, you can't pretend he doesn't live rent free in your head till the end of
Starting point is 00:13:09 time. This is half a year later. It's done. It's done. And you're doing this in light of someone else releasing their own thing over here, right? That's the bit. You can't even say that this just came out with the timing of like being, you know, unrelated or whatever. You
Starting point is 00:13:28 are 1000% in your feelings, crying, malding, like ripping apart the studio because people are celebrating and enjoying the new Kendrick album and you can't handle it. And the same level of introspection that should have stopped you like eight or nine fucking steps ago can't kick in now and the people around you that should have stopped you from filing this or thinking that this was a reasonable thing or a smart thing to do at least for rehabilitating your image where everyone was kind of like all right dude just go disappear you still have a career but it's gonna be rough from here on out those people are not here to stop him and he doesn't have the thing that we all see right now, which is like you're making it so much worse. Why do you keep making it worse?
Starting point is 00:14:13 You know and all you had to do is like the ultimate proof that he has no one who cares about him in his life. Nothing around. No one, right? And like again, you see the wild wild shit with the type of guy, all that shit with the dad stuff, and you're just like, yeah, there is nothing to just give him that little kitten paw on the hand to say stop posting, you know? Because you wait until literally the day after the new album to come out and go, nah, that last song was bullshit though. Right?
Starting point is 00:14:44 So, okay, hey, I don't think this has anything to do with Kendrick's new album. I think it has absolutely nothing to do with Kendrick's new album. I think it has to do with the fact that in the second week of November, Kendrick Lamar received 5 Grammy nominations for Not Like Us, and Drake received zero because it takes time to grab a lawyer and fucking build this shit up. There's no way he did that in two days. You can say that, but I'm going to respectfully disagree because I also think that while Pretty it's while wisely the album is pretty much. It's it's not really focused on any of that shit It's like there's overall the biggest signature of like the beef and everything has just been like the the type of beats
Starting point is 00:15:38 He's he's using there's a there's a not like a sound that kind of is becoming a more distinct thing to Kendrick The sound that I'm gonna use for a bunch of my music going forward is the Drake is a pedophile. That type of, yeah, that harmony, you know? It kind of comes together with the... Right? We're gonna be... That's gonna be a new, unique identifying sound. It's like a leitmotif. A leitmotif of Drake being creepy. You know, it's kind of like when we got to the Sergeant Peppers, kind of like, you know, when we went a little hippie with it, we kinda got experimental,
Starting point is 00:16:10 we stopped doing the Ed Sullivan show, it's like that, it's that Drake is a pedo era, you know, like we're getting into that sound. But the album leans into that, and it leans into the Black Panther album kinda track sound, a bit more than the old, like, jazz rap kind of experimental shit you know which was awesome but it's just like a different thing so that's clearly like the biggest part of it but if you want to talk about direct one of the tracks as we were waiting for as we were
Starting point is 00:16:38 expecting on the album is just called yeah heart, Heart Part 6, AKA that last thing, that last response never happened. We just erased it from history and we continued and we didn't lose a beat. And now the new album, every album Kendrick releases has a track called The Heart, Part 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. And now the new album, Heart Part 6, That's it. And the timeline is corrected You know, we have King Crimson's your entire response out of history. I don't remember Drake's responses and that is Don't remember them. It is a benevolence that we are wiping that memory away
Starting point is 00:17:23 It is a benevolence. It is a a good thing for him that we forget that we are wiping that memory away. It is a benevolence. It is a good thing for him that we forget that he even did that. There is mercy in this erasure. I hope this lawsuit happens because it'll be funny, but I also hope that it happens because I am imagining a conversation between the type of person who always gets what they wants and a lawyer who is asking them a really specific question, which is, are they going to find weird shit in discovery? I mean, okay. And Drake will go, no.
Starting point is 00:18:08 Okay, now listen, now hold on. In real life, probably not, probably very boring and a very non-entertaining conclusion to this legal procedure. In fun time world, in Awesome Timeline, the court needs to go, well, hold on a minute. If you're saying these lyrics are false, then we need to seek out proof to confirm that why were these made? Are there exhibits that we can drop objections on here to say, well, your honor, in fact, we have
Starting point is 00:18:45 sub receipts and we don't have reasonable doubt enough to say that these things did not occur. So, but like a straight up like, okay, so to prove they have to find, they have to find a, a piece of evidence, which is a guy who was working with Kendrick or Kendrick himself saying out loud, yeah I know all that shit is fake but I'm saying it anyway because it's funny and it'll hurt his reputation, right? So they're not going to find that. Instead they're like, well why did you say that about Mr. Graham?
Starting point is 00:19:21 Your honor. And like, he'll be able to go like, bah bah bah bah bah bah. Mr. Graham You're right your honor. I like yeah That little face that Phoenix Wright makes when the question mark goes You're like your honor. Why would your club? Why would the prosecution's clients say I expected the Epstein angle? For what reason would he have expected that angle like the judge is like oh? Good question like if it went to a court and you're with any response if it went to court we could have a new district judge sit there and say it was reasonable for mr. Lamar to assume the Drake was a pedophile. Case closed.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Yeah. So, it's, look, it's going to be, it's going to be this like fucking, even, and the worst part is it doesn't matter what the outcome of these steps are. Like you've just, you've cemented it. It's over. It's done, you know? And way to just underline the overall, like, the feeling that is, you know, I mean, we covered a lot of it last time when it came up, but it's just, this is, there is a part of this thing
Starting point is 00:20:32 that is a battle for the soul of hip hop, right? It is, like, it is, it is ostensibly just the realest shit, authenticity versus production, fake and connections and industry plants etc, whatever, you know and like to then use this as your way out of sorts to try to find the legal angle to be like no I need to Suppress them algorithmically and get the courts to pay damages for whatever when you just you refuse to acknowledge that like Everyone is fucking on that shit. It was the bop of the summer You have to just feign ignorance and then create a world where no you didn't take that damage And again, it's very telling to see him on the recent
Starting point is 00:21:16 So pop up on the streams as well and kind of like to be like, yeah live in my best life. Nothing happened Everything's great. Everything is fine. And it is an absolute train wreck inside, you know? And he did release like some experimental like stuff out in going into different genres as well and kind of, you know, just whatever, doing whatever you can do. But I just think that like, this is the point that anybody that found themselves in this situation with a half a reasonable brain would be like, you just got to low. You just gotta lay low. You have to wait for this to go away. And like realize that the people that care about you are the people that just want to
Starting point is 00:21:54 dance and they don't give a fuck about what's actually happening or what you're saying or what's going on. They just want to hear it in the club. And you just wait a second. How could he be suing Kendrick for the information that he fed to Kendrick? Oh, we set that shit up, did we? Yes. Yeah. Didn't you?
Starting point is 00:22:16 Yes. Wasn't this all a big master plan? Right. Right. Right. Of course. Yes. The, the, the, the, of course. Yes, the Grand Owl Plan.
Starting point is 00:22:27 We put people in your fucking, in your surroundings. And also, right, meanwhile, like anyway, you want to talk about just like, if you're gonna go like bar for bar and go, Your Honor, AKA Daddy, Mommy, he said mean things about me Mr. Mr. Graham it says here that you said Kendrick Lamar Viciously beats his wife In in in the prior song is that accurate and like literally like where are we going with that was right? That was a lot more direct The the the creepy benefit That was a lot more direct than the Creepy Petit Vosget. Yeah, it's, it's, it just, and it always, there's all,
Starting point is 00:23:10 like you just kind of take a moment to think about like how we got here, and it's just because everyone in this industry heard Kendrick drop a bar that was just going like, yo, I'm pretty fucking good. I love all y'all, but I'm, you know, I'm coming for you. I'm the best. But I, you know, that was just going like, yo, I'm pretty fucking good. I love all y'all, but I'm coming for you. I'm the best. But you know, and they were all like, yeah, okay, good shit. Let's see what you got.
Starting point is 00:23:31 And one dude was like, oh, oh yeah. I really gotta say, man, like the fact that is, you're dead on, that is absolutely the beginning of this. And like, I'm the best might be the most common brag in every form of art that has ever been I'm the greatest of all time there is no equal that no one could beat me in fucking what act like it, it's just, you're just talking. You know, you're just chirping. And then to be like, no you're not!
Starting point is 00:24:10 It's me! I'm the dragon! Yeah, no, everyone loves to see a child get fucking spanked like this. An adult child is getting absolutely washed. And now he has too much money to like, yeah, to ever. It's like, okay, this is the, and this is kind of the sad depressing part, but there's a lesson that you kind of learn from Kanye, right? Where, and it's like, Kanye is just, who the fuck knows he's in space right he's gone
Starting point is 00:24:46 but like the whole bit about not having anyone around you and like getting rid of anyone around you who could have talked to you about this type of thing and like he's basically just like you he's you when you have so much money that like you can't possibly hit the bottom. There's a place you're supposed to fall and land on and go splat. But if you have enough money and success before the fall, you never really hit that bottom. So you keep sticking to the delusions because you're being kept afloat. Do you want some real fucking conspiracy?
Starting point is 00:25:26 Nonsense about what you just said. Oh boy. Do you want to fucking just dig into the fucking weeds? I mean, no, but like what the fuck? All right. So Drake announces a new concert with horribly overpriced tickets. I'm sure you saw that where tickets start at $500 a seat. Mmm. Drake also is a victim of what's called the Drake Curse. Are you familiar with the Drake Curse? Uh, no. I do know that there's the Australia Tour shit that he was talking about, but what, what, what's that? So the Drake Curse is that Drake is a prolific gambler. Oh yes, yes, yes, yes. Massive insane debts. Can't stop. Drake has a win rate of under 15%.
Starting point is 00:26:13 He is measurably worse than a coin toss. He is an anti-lock. Yes, he will always post his bets and whatever he does does you do the opposite Right generally speaking and his locks are like yeah, they're always death And the stream I was talking about that he did where he was being salty with XQC Was a I'm pretty sure it was a stream with like the steak gambling company and stuff because he owes so much money That he has to do promotional shit for the gambling company. So yes, absolutely. This is a known thing. So like, yeah, no, they're there. They're like, I don't know
Starting point is 00:26:50 the math. I don't know any. I don't think even Aubrey knows the math, but there's a there is a confluence of possibilities that this lawsuit is because he owes a lot of people some money. Nah, man. Al Pacino always wanted to be Dunkacino. He enjoyed doing that role. I don't know, he actually did seem to enjoy doing that role, like a lot. People gotta get paid, and Drake is one million percent parlaying his shit into oblivion.
Starting point is 00:27:20 Make no mistake, yes. That is, there is a long red number right there I will say there's a detail that we left out earlier that most people know but if you're not aware of it's really important To this pre-legal action or pretrial whatever the fuck it's called Because he's going after UMG and Kendrick Lamar for fucking him over of note is that UMG is also His music label. He's he's suing the company that he works for That yeah, I is not gonna be good for his Negotiations fucking at the next time he's at the table! Well, we'll cross that bridge after we burn it down.
Starting point is 00:28:08 You know? No, it's the unraveling. It's bad decisions. And again, where I was ultimately going with the Kanye bit was just that yet no bottom means that you can just make worse and worse and worse decisions. You can just keep falling forever. Forever. And you'll never hit the ground. And all that happens is everyone is like, OK, we're
Starting point is 00:28:30 just going to go over here. And oh, what's the latest insane thing? That's cool. It's just exhausting to even bother. Who knows or cares what's even going on with him anymore? And that's what happens. I remember seeing. You can't possibly make another.
Starting point is 00:28:44 There's always a worse decision you can keep making. I remember seeing a, and this is not the kind of thing that I look for, but the world brought it to me. I remember seeing an interview with Kim of talking about Kanye and the kids and her describing what it's like to run damage control for your ex-husband because like the kids are separated from dad but he's on TV. Yeah. Yeah. So like you
Starting point is 00:29:14 don't want the kids to be like dad's an insane psycho person so you're running damage control for a person that you won't let your children and that's that seems fuck there's there's the there's the literal there's the public images and the money in the business part and then there's just like for your children's sake and like sanity is dad crazy you know that seems rough during one of the i mean and yeah i think like um i think north was like rapping or part of the one of the more recent events or concerts and stuff. And you're like, yeah, there's what are you going to do,
Starting point is 00:29:48 man? It's that's that like, that's your, that's your dad, you know, it's fucking anyway. So, all this to say that, like, here we are, this has gotten to the point where we were hearing these stories, and he thinks this is the right move to make and no one's stopping him, therefore, if for a second you think, oh, and that'll be the end of it, right? It'll just... Oh no. If the spiral continues, you know? So...
Starting point is 00:30:16 It will be years of just... He's either gonna be told to not go through with the lawsuit or he's gonna lose the lawsuit and then that will also not be the end of it. I mean, I just like I'm looking forward to a point however many years from now where like there's like eight we're like 18 or 19 stories deep of just Drake flopping around turning into a corn cob and Like when asked for comment, Kendrick is like, who? What?
Starting point is 00:30:51 You know what this feels like? You know that kind of guy who you knew in high school who would instigate a problem and if someone retaliated, he would escalate it times a million. Yeah. Right. So like the guy who starts a fight and when the dude fights back, says, I'm going to get my friends to beat you up tomorrow. Right. But in this situation and in some situations, that doesn't happen because people are like, no, what are you insane? And the dude's just going to hold on to it until this fucking dying day. Can you believe that fucking asshole fought back when I hit him?
Starting point is 00:31:27 In the old folks home yelling at the nurses, you know, like as the lights are closing in, still holding on to it. Yes. That motherfucker. You know. And you just happen to pick the one that like, I mean, there are like, there are many rappers out there, and there's always a couple that are just like, you mean, there are like, there are many rappers out there and there's always a couple that are just like, you know, pretty serious. There's some that don't crack punch lines. This is one that refuses to smile. Kendrick, like, is so, he is so locked in at all times.
Starting point is 00:31:58 There is not an ounce of levity to be found, man. I think the big mistake know to go after a guy like that who also loves the Lord like like Kendrick loves Jesus he is his armor shields him from all threats crown of thorns you know fucking I can fix it though right says Jimmy. Drake washing. I can fall.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Alright. Curly! Alright. Curly it was up to you to tell me that girl was 14. This is your fault Curly! to tell me that girl was 14 this is your fault curly oh man he can fix it don't worry don't worry I can still we can still be heroes there is a non zero
Starting point is 00:32:59 percent chance that someone who lives in Drake's house just in general is just gonna come forward with just fucking Punch a dirt or video tapes or something like something. I don't know. I don't know that man should not trust anybody in his life. I Mean he has it like so far like It hasn't devolved to the like absolute tweet storm breakdown You know like the the stream of conscious we haven't hit that level yet But that's the final breaking of you know the the the deepest barriers when you hit terminal dogma Like is when there's no one left or nothing left or no procedures left to take.
Starting point is 00:33:45 You know what? You know what? I'm gonna pull out my fucking phone and tell people what I think. We're going live. We're hitting, we're going on live. Let's go. Oh my God, dude.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Oh man, yeah. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. God, this, if Drake had come out and been like, wow, that's a really good song It's really funny too, and then Dropped it Shit would be over. It would be done silence. It'd be a funny little hip-hop thing like
Starting point is 00:34:20 Like I'm thinking about the feeling I get sometimes where I see some stupid comment go by and I'm just like, ignore it, and you're like, oh god, that's annoying. Anyway, right? And then, and then, and then I go like, what the fuck are you talking about? And then everyone's like, dude, just ignore it. I'm like, yeah, all right. And then like, well, what do you even like that feeling of why do I even bother like and just not like that times infinity times a million of like,
Starting point is 00:34:47 you have to imagine each step along the way, there's that like, oh no, it's getting worse. Oh no, it's all, why is it getting worse? Why are people more against me? Why is it not back to the way it used to be? Why is everything not GALCZESTA? All facts aside It's because Kendrick is making better music than you are like facts aside
Starting point is 00:35:14 If if Drake was met on that beef if Drake was putting out way better songs It would not matter what was being said in those songs. The one thing he had and has and was his power from the beginning was the power of the summer bop, right? It was his summer. He would always release tracks that were just instant played in the club, instant like you know everybody's dancing to it doesn't matter what what's going on doesn't matter what it says lyrically who gives a fuck it's just you know the words put together nice and make me happy my brain yeah it's the same you hear it coming out the car
Starting point is 00:35:57 speakers you know you're hearing the sound of the of the distortion of the glass shaking and vibration and the and the woofers going you know and that's how you listen to it, basically. It's always been that, so yes, when something comes out that is actually more substantial and catchier, holy shit, what have you got? That's a complete disarming. Anyway, so yeah, GNX is pretty good, and that's a lot of fun. And, uh, hey, I look forward to the the the loud mustard ass screams that we'll be hearing from here on out you know I look forward to I look forward
Starting point is 00:36:35 to Drake sitting down to eat a hot dog and putting ketchup and relish on it and then looking and just going, oh. I can't believe, like there are two thoughts that I have on this that are just sticking in my chest. The first one is I remember talking to you about reading a elementary school teacher describing, a Canadian elementary school teacher describing how the day Not Like Us came out, their Ontario school inverted from a Drake school to a Kendrick Lamar school literally overnight. Yep. And like elementary school students, you're all fucking cooked. That is so, oh
Starting point is 00:37:26 my God. But the second thing and the funniest thing in the world is again, over and over, every time Kendrick does anything, anytime there's an accusation, always goes for the wrong thing first. That song's not that popular. And also I didn't do any of that shit. Like always, always in the weird wrong order that shows what you care about. Yeah, I think, okay, you know it's bad when it's not even like while there is a significant amount of Kendrick winning people over that is occurring where they're like oh shit yeah let's go I'm on I'm down with that
Starting point is 00:38:10 there is also a significant amount of just trying to run away from the fucking citizen app dots that are landing by being an OVO you know stand by being in the Drake crowd you need to dodge bullets just standing around You're like fuck this. I'm out. You're right. You don't even necessarily run over to Kendrick You're just like I can't be standing next to this shit. What the fuck is he doing? I don't I don't want to be associated with this. That's it. You know, that's the that's the kicker It's just like even in the absence of Kendrick music, you're running away because of all the fucking Drake news. So also bluntly, like this lawsuit or this pre-action, whatever the fuck it's called,
Starting point is 00:38:53 it makes him look super guilty and super creepy. Like the lady Doth protesting a lot, like a lot. An owl getting getting shipped to maximum security on Rikers. Yeah, so that's fun. It's always nice to see someone unable to understand why they're taking else just piss and shit and moan and flail on the ground you know whether that be because of you know the the the other song just being better or whether that be because people can see how many Players of your active game are online
Starting point is 00:39:42 But we'll get there I suppose It's not fair that that that steam shows the active players oh I don't know about that I don't know what you're afraid about that oh I'm oh guess which company is upset that people can find out how many active players are online at any given time. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Okay, I'm closing the chat, I can't see the chat. Okay, is this a big company?
Starting point is 00:40:14 A video game company is not happy that Steam allows you to see active players and that means that their investors can't get the numbers themselves and they can't go and massage them or tell them their own numbers for active players and they're considering trying to get steam to not show the the active concurrent players okay so like Mike my gut deep down in your heart part six is Ubisoft. Oh you know My second one was Gonna be a don't even bother don't even bother on the mark bullseye Stop showing how many players are playing? Oh my God, dude. This is over that Prince of Persia shit in one
Starting point is 00:41:11 Actually, no It's about what the finals are one of the fuck. It's a little it's about Star Wars stuff oh Dude, I've never seen a steam front page ad for a patch Oh, dude, I've never seen a steam front page ad for a patch Man like that. Did you see that it was like Star Wars outlaws now patch 1.4? Hey, we fixed a bunch of cyberpunk cyberpunk right uh That was that was the DLC interest. I'll go see the game is fixed Yeah, but um
Starting point is 00:41:43 Yeah, dude. They are not happy that people can see for themselves Eat fucking shit. Oh Yeah, tried it try So I'm gonna segue slightly you're so we made fun of the epic game store and Tim Sweeney's like a fucking dweeb right and They're like we're gonna make a better store than seem and all that shit. Right. So since then, the Epic Games Store, to my knowledge, has not added any new features and they still don't have a shopping cart and their store pretty much works out the way that it does.
Starting point is 00:42:17 But since that whole kerfuffle, Steam has added better Steam put support. They added family accounts so that you can write and just share every single game that you want for everybody in their fucking house and all that shit. It's incredible. It's super, super useful. And then they just had steam recording come out, which I have tested. It is better than ShadowPlay. It is a better recording solution than ShadowPlay, and it's auto-enabled for every single fucking game you play on Steam. Yeah. And I mean, in echoes of this and such, there's even the bit where last week, the 2K launcher has just been shut down and removed from every single game that used it.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Okay, Woolly, what is your personal experience with the 2K launcher? I have not used it once ever. Okay, so I had forgotten. Remember when we talked about the front end, which is the worst, the, you play, all this stuff? Forgot about 2K. The 2K launcher is actually, so 2K doesn't have a store, it would just be a launcher for some other games. Actually the worst one, because it would drop your performance by like 40% for no matter
Starting point is 00:43:41 what game you play. Oh god, every time. The very first thing you would do when you installed XCOM was go to the Nexus and get the mod to bypass the launcher. It would make Civ 5, uh, 6, whatever. Civ 6.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Yeah, Civ 5 had a specifically... And it would run bad despite the fact that it's fucking Civ. What do you? Yeah. And it's like it's literally exclusively because of the launcher. The launcher was just bad. And it wasn't that it took resources. It was badly made and was just so like suck up your fucking cycle. So I'm reading that they shut it down and they're pulling it out of everything.
Starting point is 00:44:25 It is gone now. And that includes games that used it. It says not just on Steam, but on Epic, which is like, OK, so you had games that you would boot on Epic Game Store that would then launch this separate 2K launcher, and then you have to go through that procedure as well. That's batshit. I cannot. As somebody who played, I think every single game that used the 2K launcher,
Starting point is 00:44:51 it was like, I would say it's like enough to knock a full point off the game. It was that bad. Wow. Yeah. Every time a bad launcher dies, a classic game gets its wings. Like, it's just, we don't have enough of these types of stories, you know, on a regular basis, but the fact that 2K is actually giving up here is like, okay, cool. That's what. That's nice. Anyway, anyway.
Starting point is 00:45:25 It's awesome that that launcher's not there. Makes me want to load up XCOM 2, not even joking. That bad. That bad. And like, you could probably look at the chat and like, am I crazy or was it that bad? Because I remember it being that fucking bad. Terrible. Terrible. Okay. Okay. So yeah, more on a lot of this when we get to the news But let's let's let's jump to the leaks a little bit fucking you you
Starting point is 00:45:55 My god fucking hole in one like But anyway enough about Drizzy Now let's talk about Dizzy oh have you been sitting on that or you just think of that I just thought of it oh that's good she's pretty cool I noticed you put Dizzy on your schedule again for this
Starting point is 00:46:16 week oh well that was just a mistake oh was it that was just a mistake Okay, because this morning I saw I'm like wow he must be really into playing dizzy and guilty gear Yeah, I'm gonna need to fix that BBL dizzy BBL dizzy Yeah, no no we're gonna be playing rivals of a rivals of a third to yes actually but Aether too, yes, actually. But yeah, no, she's, it's interesting
Starting point is 00:46:48 to introduce a character that has, again, those wings of light, that crazy ship that just sucks your life off, all that, but. Was Sajam right? Is it just win more? It is, and you can, if you don't, yeah, you can get hit quite easily if you don't know what you're doing,
Starting point is 00:47:04 and if you're not good at running away, then it's a challenge, right? But she's got a lot of good keep-aways owning tools, but it's like, she could not have had those tools in previous versions of the game, but this patch has made the game nutty that they're ready. The groundwork has been laid for this character to have this type of thing.
Starting point is 00:47:24 So what you're saying is that when we saw Dizzy we're like how the fuck is this character gonna exist in guilty-gear strive and the answer is she's not going to she's gonna exist in Guilty-gear strive bullshit edition the strive you the strive you know is gone. This is a new thing and But on the on the as a side note all those pot changes and stuff turns out they made him better so Yeah, I know yeah, okay, so all the muscle memory that's gone and the stuff has ultimately it's a wash It's okay, but he's they made everything else strong. He's he's good. That's always what I want I like it's always like hey Did you know this weird trick this character can do is actually really good like how how about you just remove that shit and just make the character better in general, please
Starting point is 00:48:10 In terms of wacky bullshit stuff though. They added the 3v3 mode officially and I gave it a shot and it's great. It's just it really yeah. Yeah, it's like, okay we're making a new mode and They had the the bones for it because when you did arcade or story, you'd have these little two V two matches against the computer sometimes, or two V one matches against the final boss.
Starting point is 00:48:33 And so they just kind of went like, all right, well, we've got the infrastructure. What if we actually let it connect and let people play online? And like, there's a part where they went, okay, we can make this real if we want to, right? We can make it real by having you tag in and out of a team of three, other people you're connected to,
Starting point is 00:48:52 and they can also choose when they wanna jump in and do an assist. But in order to stop you from taking it too seriously, they're like, and here's some items, and here's some complete batch it extra abilities you can get. Here's something that lets Potemkin do an air dash, and let's just make it completely nonsense.
Starting point is 00:49:16 You can't try to take it seriously even if you tried. You're not allowed. You're going to have to deal with someone jumping in and putting a lightning strike over you, or a bubble that hits you if you Jump or whatever, you know, so It's wacky in that way and then it's also kind of unique in that You can't tag back and forth once you switch to somebody. It's the most complicated Tagging system I've ever seen in any fighting game. It's a fucking guilty gear, right?
Starting point is 00:49:45 So you you connect and you're three people on the same team you all pick your character you have your starter your middle and then your anchor right and You can also choose what profile of like Fighter you want to be because if you're like, oh, I'm an anchor You can have a bunch of items that are good for for people who are last in line for people who are good for starting out or whatever. And you can only tag to another person once in the round. You can't go back and forth, you have to choose the
Starting point is 00:50:20 moment that you want to switch the other person in. And like, you don't just hit the tag button you have to Request it and they have to accept it while you're fighting so You're playing fucking weird you're playing and then why your two other teammates have the ability to jump in and drop an item Jump in and do an assist to help you or they can request a tag or you can request a tag That takes too long and then once they confirm the handshake assist to help you or they can request a tag or you can request a tag. That takes too long.
Starting point is 00:50:52 And then once they confirm the handshake, you now are both on screen for about like seven seconds to view wanting. That takes too long. The person on screen. And it's like that, uh, it just batch it. It's a, um, uh, Blazaboo cross tag battle levels of like you're dead You're just it's an you know But like you're paying attention to if you're just in the background When your items are gonna restock when your assist is gonna restock and like when the handshake happens
Starting point is 00:51:16 There's a little like vignette that pops up around the sides and you're like, oh shit And you're just you're just overwhelmed with nonsense It's it's just so it's crazy. It's batshit And yeah, of course you can pick the same character three times so you can get nine You can get rise just nine behemoth typhoons just going You know or the classic like three like you have have three Nagoriukis and the team name is three fucking Nagos, but the person whose name is Nagos went in second and fucked it up so it's team three Nagos fucking.
Starting point is 00:51:57 That's great. That's great. That's great. Very, very funny. And ultimately, you know, a mode to be forgotten in the annals of history. But hey, it's there and no one can say that after a couple years they didn't add new features. Right? Guilty Gear Usika is fucking just crawling back up to just spray some of its shit all over Strive. To just spray some of its shit all over strive. Yeah. Well, at least that shit came out and is not being
Starting point is 00:52:28 Fucking Whatever the hell happened to mortal kombat 1 dlc so um, you know God bless sucks how mortal kombat players don't like to play mortal kombat That's unfortunate. It's it's a huge shame It's a huge shame. It's a huge shame. You know, it would do a lot better and things would be a lot better for that game if the if people enjoyed it.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Hey, I have an idea. The next time they make a Mortal Kombat game, they should make a version of it that people will want to play for longer than three hours. Oh, here we go. Yeah, yeah, we all know the bit. people will want to play for longer than three hours after they finish the story mode. Yeah, yeah, we all know the bit. Pat's gonna say they should make the game good. Fucking- I know, I mean, it looks like Netherrealm right now is saying that they should have made the game good
Starting point is 00:53:16 so then they could sell more DLC. How tired are we of the same fucking bit every time, Pat? We get it, yada yada. It'd be good if Mortal Kombat games were good. It would. Hey, listen, I played the fucking shit out of like the majority of Mortal Kombat games, and I never thought for a second they were good. I thought they were cool! Which they are! And the problem, and the thing that always sucks, is that this is the other shoe dropping. This is the other side of the peanut butter jelly sandwich
Starting point is 00:53:46 To the trailer came out and has and is eclipsed the views of every other fighter in one day Oh absolutely! It's like yes Cuz it's cool! Yes There's murder in that fighting game! And that amount and that and the moment the moment that trailer ended it left all Minds and all consciousness and just went
Starting point is 00:54:05 by the wayside. It is a fatality collection. You watch them and then you go break. Mortal Kombat exists so that up and coming YouTubers can get some promotion on their new channel by posting the fatality compilation first. And you can get some big content speculating about which guest stars are going to pop up. Right? You get to do a mini version of what Smash Brothers does during the fucking Oscar season. Who's the question mark going to be? Anyway. So yeah, Strive is alive in the game.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Dude, the only piece of Mortal Kombat content I have seen in a month was a singular TikTok that was like, we finally found out which killer is underneath the scream mask in the new DLC. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we found out. It wasn't gameplay, it was like, ah which which character is it? Oh? Well, there's three of them and like I was one like they they there's two characters that they which mysterious Mortal Kombat characters Oh my god, it's I Have no idea who this is says Lex Luthor pulling off the fucking
Starting point is 00:55:21 The guy from scream one Wow But also Cobra and also Kira remember Cobra and Kira holy hell wow remember the guy from Mortal Kombat Armageddon that looked like Ken yeah it says a lot that like that the two things that I've seen about fighting games in the past, no, no, the two of three, but have been, oh, Mortal Kombat's not going to get any more DLC. Oh. And the other side is Street Fighter players going, please let us buy more costumes. Please, please let me buy more costumes. Are you guys going to do outfit four? Yeah, come on. I mean, I think they, so the comparison of like
Starting point is 00:56:10 where the costumes were at in five by this point what is pretty, it's obscene. Oh, unbelievable, like unbelievable. Now the thing of course is that like think about that going towards all the avatar costumes, right? As a redirect of those funds in one way. And then second, there's that other bit where we know that Five was in a much more desperate
Starting point is 00:56:30 recoup the cash situation and pushed a lot of that forward faster because they launched at half fucking mast and with a lot of money missing. So they were in a very dire straight situation by comparison to Six. That being said, yeah, people are chomping at the bit. But what was I just saying before that? Oh, yeah, anyway, whatever.
Starting point is 00:56:58 So that's nice. That's great. And Mortal Kombat is doing what it does. Meanwhile, fucking games like Uni or Aether are kind of just regulated to more or less getting ignored and you're not gonna get your Game Award nomination. Get the fuck out of here, you. No, what, what, what, because people like you.
Starting point is 00:57:20 People enjoy this, fuck off. Get out of here. Fucking who cares? People like people enjoy this fuck off. Get out of here fucking who cares All right, anyways beyond all of that Talked about g and x for a little bit talked about dizzy I Have gotten a good bit further into metaphor How much further I am am running around Brailhaven.
Starting point is 00:57:50 That's a good town. Waiting for the day to infiltrate. Have you? So which day to infiltrate? Okay. The one under your control or the one out of your control? There is an infiltration day that is out of my control that I've upco- okay yeah yeah so that did you do the first part? No no oh just just I mean just the the first setup but yes okay so metaphor um I'm gonna talk we're
Starting point is 00:58:22 talking about town three Pryle, and everything before that. So some spoilers for metaphor, Towns 1 and 2 and a little note to pop up. Oh, yeah Alright so Town to mm-hmm Wow Very strong Wow, wow, wow that was a really strong second place to go. Chapter.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Chapter. Impressions are as follows. Fuck everybody else, Heisme should be the captain. So. We should all be following him and doing what he says He's fucking incredible High as may is the best character that the persona team has ever made. I can't believe that moment and like just the realness of How that situation is carried carried by him
Starting point is 00:59:51 and his emotional intelligence and his fucking everything everything about him like I'm like I don't I don't know what happens from here on out, but I'm all about this dude. So, yeah, this is a moment, the game is interesting in that, it's going balls out in some ways that I'm surprised by, because Persona's always had those moments where we've laughed at it for being like, hey, disrupt society, but not too much, don't get everyone upset, Win them back on your side.
Starting point is 01:00:25 Harmony is important. You know, but, and the idea of like the chained worker seeking emancipation, but you have to seek, you know, approved emancipation that as long as everybody is, you know, hitting up your fansite and saying they like you, then it's okay, right, to fight the system. But here, they're like in the middle of being like, all right, so, you know, we see what the metaphor is, we see what we're setting up, and we're getting these candidates that are vying for the throne. We're fucking roping up the anti-racism gang.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Right, and then you're getting, but in the middle of that, you're people like down with taxes and the games like I don't know if that's a really good idea does that do they do they know that like things might be pretty bad and that they can help people actually that guy is so fucking wild I love him so much because he's like yeah down with taxes and the crowds like yeah and these like and then laws and the crowds like oh I'm like oh wow look at the balls though on them for going like having you your you know anime protagonist standing up they're going actually I think helping each other is pretty good and he's like nah and you and you're like huh okay, okay, you're just, we're just saying it then we think driver's license are a good thing. We're just, we're out and out.
Starting point is 01:01:52 We're confirming that that works. Okay, cool. Um, and, and so that's that, you know, then you kind of have that going down and then everything would just the setup leading into the human beneath Martira and Joanna and and Morris and all of that you're getting you're getting your scumbag that's running away going you can't catch me right you're like oh you fucking you're gonna get it as you expect right that's all fine and dandy oh look at that piece shit, and you almost can tell it's like okay He's such a piece of shit And we're so annoyed at him that he's automatically gonna get his on the other side because like he's guarding children In a fucking wheelbarrow and you're just like oh you have to go like this is insane
Starting point is 01:02:41 You know whatever can't exit this situation alive the story won't won't survive it he's doing it and he loves it right um but you hit Joanna and you hit what I think is their best handled from the games I've played like pushing your ethical and moral dilemma, not dilemma, because the answers are clear, but pushing your concepts of punishment and rehabilitation and You know everything in between to the limit right and You get this fucking Phenomenal exchange of just all the the the dead kids you are fighting to save and
Starting point is 01:03:46 This person who was so great Joanna who was so grievously wronged coming from a justified place in this in her head because she has a horrible thing happened to her but you have to of course you know internalize and understand that one horrible turn does not excuse or beget or justify another. Um, and it feels as if a lot of media fail to hit the right points. They'll just kind of steamroll one way or the other or kind of cop it out a little bit, you know, and I often am left feeling like, God damn it, I wish I could say what I wanted to say here. And people have gotten on my ass too for being like Willie's a bit too like up and right over righteous about like punishment and all these things and stuff and I Feel as if I I get more
Starting point is 01:04:35 bothered when There isn't anyone in the story to say the things you're thinking you know Mm-hmm and Heismay just walks up and you're thinking, you know? And Heisme just walks up and you're like, we're gonna kill this human, it's gotta die, that's not a question. Oh, it's eating like 100 kids, it's bad news. I'm sorry, but that's not up for negotiation.
Starting point is 01:04:58 But he is there as someone who is actively grieving his lost child and has been through not only the same situation that she has been through, so he has that emotional intelligence to it, but he's also like, and this is not like a hundred percent clean, but he is almost able to speak on behalf of the people who are victims back in the village at this point, right? And him standing here to be able to express. I know I get it I Understand it's the worst But you know what this is and to just force that moment of acknowledgement
Starting point is 01:05:37 like When she actually cracks and breaks and gives in I'm like I believe like, I believe it. I believe it. Like he, a character like him existing to talk down the villain moment where it's born from a real justified like understandable moment of anguish, I don't know that I've encountered that
Starting point is 01:06:00 in any other media recently. It was unbelievably strong. It's really fascinating because Heisman is perfect in any other media recently. It was unbelievably strong. It's really fascinating because Heisman is perfect because he endured a similarly outrageous tragedy and is like ruined by it. It's the defining moment of his life and it's the worst thing that could ever happen, right? And you get to have a character on the same footing. Tell her you can't use that as a justification for this. You can't. But the reason it's perfect is because Heisme is also not perfect despite that.isman is still really racist towards Parapus.
Starting point is 01:06:47 He doesn't like them. And like, who can blame him, but he's not feeding them to a monster under his castle. Right. Right. I need to get a little bit more out of him. But it's quite clear that like he's had enough moments of introspection to like yeah to arrive at the place he's at you know and then of course when you're hearing about the the Paris Piss story from Katarina you're you're going like oh they're just signing up to jump in the woodchipper
Starting point is 01:07:22 oh yeah absolutely you know that ends me dude. Awesome, right? So yeah, it's it's incredible. It's just it's just it's just it's a moment where I feel like a Protagonist a protagonist delivering half platitudes with three options of text is just never gonna get there No, you need somebody to actually talk it out. And it helps because, okay, what's the deal? Okay, you're gonna come with us and you're gonna confess all this shit, which is super typical of particularly Persona team, right?
Starting point is 01:07:56 But they kinda add just enough, like, okay, she was deranged. She was having a full-scale psychotic break and had totally detached from reality. And these events have like snapped her out of it. Yes. And I'm thinking of the version of this where there is no Heismay. There's just, you know, Teen Adventure Squad going, no Joanna, this is wrong. You know that's not your kid. And then she goes, oh, what have I done?
Starting point is 01:08:31 Oh, and then we just glaze past it, and you don't go for two seconds to like any thought towards anyone who's now a new victim as a result of this. And that's where I go crazy. That's the shit that makes me go, fuck that. That writing sucks, that bothers me. That's where I go off, you know?
Starting point is 01:08:50 And that's where people go, oh, well he's going on his thing again. I'm like, yeah, because you're not giving the gravity to the fucking victims in this situation. And I hate, I hate that so much in writing. I think the game goes way out of its way to make that gravity inescapable because when you run into them in the prison or in the dungeon you stop them from finishing pulling a cart full
Starting point is 01:09:16 of children to be fed like you actively stop the process in progress and like save like a half dozen kids and then when the dungeon is over You walk back up to town and everyone's like, I don't know what's going on. But I hope I'm glad it's over I hope we find out what happens soon and then you do the reveal happens and then there's people around town that are actively like This isn't gonna bring my kid back. I thought my kid was kidnapped by a fucking ne'er do well. I didn't, oh fuck. And you're just like, yeah, like this is what, this is just take the time to actively play it forward
Starting point is 01:09:59 and don't glaze over it with fucking bullshit, we gotta get to the next dungeon writing, you know? That's what I appreciate, man. The weight of that shit, the effects are felt, you know? It's really, really well done, man. And like, you're kind of in this situation too, where like, I kind of was curious about that moment where you're like, you get to choose, like,
Starting point is 01:10:22 oh, I choose to trust Joanna, versus I choose to protect the people of the city. And it doesn't really have a meaningful difference whatsoever. The game just plays it out the same way in both situations. It's a false choice. But they understand at that point, too, that it's like, yeah, the nuances here are quite subtle.
Starting point is 01:10:39 You can be in exactly the same place and think, let's carry out the exact same actions, but you're way less actually, not trusting, but like you don't get over the fact that you wronged way more people in your grief, and we can't let that go, versus being like, you seem genuinely contrite, and I'm somebody who thinks that maybe there's,
Starting point is 01:11:07 you know, a way around this, or maybe we can find an answer here. And that's a much more complex discussion to have between players. But they have Galaka go, wow, you're way too nice for your own good, right? After that option. And then, of course, because like, you know, the spirit of the writer's pen, the karma of the writer's pen comes full fruition. And you kind of know that it's like, oh, there's no way a character, especially the way she's talking, you there's no way they let that go, you know? Like, regardless of where you fall on it yourself, the agency will be removed from the player as to whether or not a character like that should survive,
Starting point is 01:11:53 and it'll be done by someone being more extreme about it, thus you can rally around that. And you know that's gonna happen. Yeah, so you get to Brawlhaven and, like, you know, she just gets fucking killed immediately as soon as she's done talking And like there's the wide variety of responses that you can have for the player And one is like yeah No
Starting point is 01:12:14 This fiction this setting would not be able to continue to be taken seriously by the player if she managed to survive this event Yeah, like that is such an outrageous like you're hanging peripus for fucking using an unauthorized gun Can eat like 200 kids Are you fucking insane well well and so this but this is where also like status and society might carry some weight but you know you kind of have this moment of a forced hand and it ends up being tactical and so on but like But it really it's just like it's a it's a very interesting way of kind of confronting that and leaving it in a place where I Actively I'm like, I don't know right because you know, I've said it before but like with mouthwashing Hulk Hogan dot gif.
Starting point is 01:13:06 You know what I mean? I'm holding my ear out like, oh yeah, brother. There's that sound. I love it. But here you're like, I don't want like, I feel like basically what I end up feeling here is what plays out is understandable. But I the only thing if anyone of those parents back in Martira had anything else to say about this. Let those words carry infinitely more weight than ours.
Starting point is 01:13:43 Right? That's the bit. And even Heismay, who's speaking and relating on that level, let anyone who just lost their fucking child from that town have anything to say about this, and that should carry us forward. Yeah, the three reactions you get from people in town are, I don't know what to do, get her out of here and kill her. By and large, those people got what they wanted. Yeah. Yeah. It's incredible. It's incredible how it handles that and pushes right up against
Starting point is 01:14:17 those limits and tests every little bit of those things. And while I'm watching it go down and you hit that point, kind of like with Morris, where you And like, while I'm watching it go down and like, you know, you hit that point kind of like with Morris, where you're like, okay, like you're almost, you almost have a dispassionate amount of like, okay, well, you just got to go and that's that, right? Oh, you're, you're not even going to survive through the fucking pre fight boss cut scene, man. You know, and then, and then you're done. And then Heisme walks forward and starts talking and then just literally like walks it back. I'm so impressed with that character.
Starting point is 01:14:52 And I don't even know what the rest of his link is about, you know? But phenomenal, phenomenal stuff. You can ballpark it from here. I'm sure I can. I'm guessing, you know, we're going to hang out with the memories of the child, you know? Yeah, that's it. That's that's what this was his bond is. Um, but that is a fucking strong second, second town, second chapter. And then, yeah, now we're we're now the game is getting interesting and we're playing again, you know, but like it does feel, I do feel a bit of a like, whatever this plays out to be,
Starting point is 01:15:29 that's the most emotionally resonant moment. And that might continue all the way to the credits. I don't know that anything can hit as hard as that hit. Heisman's final bond is pretty rough. Okay, okay. Though I will say, and I don't want to get too deep into this. I had a bit of a, um, laser target on my chest for the entirety of
Starting point is 01:15:56 Heismay's storyline, of course, due to the time that I was playing it. Of course. And it is extraordinarily I was playing it. Of course. And it is extraordinarily like cruel of the world that his tribe is called a Yugif and he constantly talks about it. Right. Right. And it was just the timing was so direct and so on the nose that it was like, oh my god, I can't believe it. I mean, like, well the thing is, you have two angles on it because you also already. Yes, one is what happened, and the other is, oh my little baby boy, he's so perfect. Yeah, so I'm also just like,
Starting point is 01:16:43 really impressed with Atlas in how they handle this. Yeah, it's very adult and mature. I'm thoroughly, thoroughly like, wow, you did an incredible job here at something that I was very ready to be JRPG, you know? And it would have been just like, yeah, well, you know, whatever, that's it. We established a new character. We move on, yadda yadda. It struck. It absolutely fucking struck a chord. It hit.
Starting point is 01:17:11 So now we get to Brawlhaven. Now let's completely invert the game's entire structure. Yeah. Let's let's reverse the structure and be like, yeah, do, do the easy thing whenever you want. And now you gotta wait. You gotta hang out with your friends now. You must. You must hang.
Starting point is 01:17:30 Because you don't control the infiltration. Yeah, for sure. Really, really strong there. Some other stuff that I'm just noticing and I'm thoroughly enjoying is like, anytime, okay, so first step is you talk to a character and they've got a portrait and you go, right okay right kind of you know as you do in persona and such very classic and then you're having decades yeah and then you have you know you have enough moments you have a story you have a bit
Starting point is 01:17:58 whatever sub quest that plays out and then the camera cuts to the side angle handshake cam you're like There we go, you know like the camera gets ready for the fuck friends now It gets ready for the handshake, you know, and I'm already getting excited by it the mega powers You know, you got you got fucking will metaphor being like I don't know if we should Yeah That's fantastic Speaking of brow Haven by the way just Is that street vendor that just has one item a day just selling the best items in the game every day?
Starting point is 01:18:45 Because it feels like every single day a He sells a lot of good fucking shit. If you go there on Waters Day, he sells rings that increase archetype XP. Well, that's the first thing I bought. First thing I did was on day one, I'm like, oh god, this is some grifter on the street talking up shit, yadda yadda. And I'm like, dude, get to your store. And it's like, no, no, no, there is no store. I'm offering you one thing.
Starting point is 01:19:02 And then Gallick is like, I don't know, might be a ripoff. And I'm like, yeah, okay, let's go. No, it's actually incredible. no there is no storm offering you one thing and then Galec is like I don't know might be a ripoff And I'm like yeah, okay. Let's not it's actually incredible. It's amazing right so he I got that from him on day one And then on day two I got um the ring that It just has resistances to like everything or no what was something else phenomenal um to give to somebody and I was like why is all the best shit coming off of okay so I'm gonna stop you right there the stuff you get from him when you get there is
Starting point is 01:19:36 incredible I am really really deep into the game I have a countdown on my stream titles now for how many days remain is where I'm at and The game's itemization is really good. You consist anything That's like pink or gold as like an accessory or an item. They start to do really cool and interesting things That make your party super strong. Like itemization in that game is very powerful. Okay, yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:14 What did I got? Yeah, I saw like one of the first gold items was the, you get it for like the dragon's thing quest, the medicine from the dragon's fruit or whatever. But yeah, no, literally the second ring was like on days where it's raining, everything crits, all physical attacks crit. Yeah, that's pretty good.
Starting point is 01:20:37 That's fucking insane. What are you talking about? What do you mean that's what that does? Yeah, so I'm kind of just like alright, that's where my money is going and I guess I'm curious because so yeah, I've been you know Did my maxed out merchant and I've been but by the end of the game you are getting you are getting items You can equip on your character that feel like bilateral jokers. Okay. Yeah, that's that's that
Starting point is 01:21:04 I've been trying to figure out how to say it. Yeah. Because they allow you to fundamentally break the rules of how the game functions. I mean, early on I got that double turn one and it's like, okay, you still use an icon. Oh, that thing is... Who gives a shit about that fucking thing? Yeah. Holy fuck.
Starting point is 01:21:22 Well, so then I'm like, oh, oh look here's an ability that you roll the dice And then you might get randomly more icons and so far every time I've used it. It's given me like three more turns Good isn't that's not bad But now but I do wonder I'm like okay, so now that I that you got like that for example um Is there any real point to faker and commander? Is there any real point to faker and commander? So after you extract that best skill I see McCaric. Well right the the the main
Starting point is 01:21:58 benefits to So it's a it's a it's you know for whatever it's called, it's a persona game, right? It's an SMT game and buffs and debuffs are powerful. And the commander line has like extraordinary full party buffs that, that go and go and go and the faker line has extraordinary debuffs. So like, I'll give you a mechanical spoiler. The upgrade to Faker learns debilitate as a regular move. Okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:22:38 So it's not the initial class, it's where it goes. Yeah. Yeah. But also that initial class with its with its like actual buffs is very strong Debilitate is all four down right? Debilitate is everything down everything down. Yeah. Yeah, okay, right so That makes a bit more sense because I was like I could use a Makara card and I have the commander ability That's like buff everybody for two ranks and drop them in the front row. Yeah, that thing is fucking incredible. It's really, really good. But I'm like, I don't want to sacrifice an entire character's
Starting point is 01:23:12 ability to attack for that, you know? So, um, so yeah, um, you, you know what, man? At some point you might cause like I have the party layout that I have right now. I have a character that's for buffing. I have a character that's for debuffing and I have two characters that are to do damage Okay. Yeah It because if you stack your whole party to the maximum with buffs and you debuff the whatever you're fighting to the maximum It's like you have ten people on you on your side of the table It's like you have 10 people on your side of the table. Like you are so much stronger. And this is where I'm starting to go like,
Starting point is 01:23:50 I wonder if the game is balanced in a way where, you know, there's some S-links, you have the ability to go heavy on, but some you don't, right? So I just got Pugilist, and I'm like, motherfucker, I have to go at the game's pace for hanging out with Katarina. I can't get this line any further. I was super mad when Galika was the mage archetype because Galika is like the Mona where you get like the last unlock for the last two mage archetypes in like the last 20 days of the game. It's the plot. The plot is
Starting point is 01:24:27 gonna let mage and brawler you know go at their own pace and like that's like that sucks. But at least you know I guess well you know there's there's other interesting enough stuff going around but like I want to go heavy into that one you know. You can, so there's only one rule for that, and it's you can't hang out with somebody two days in a row. And very rarely for the party, you'll have to hang out on the gauntlet runner. And then you have the stat thresholds of three, four, and five. And then you have like the stat thresholds of like three, four, and five. But like, yeah, no, like I was like in Brawlhaven, like I was like, you know what, Stroll, we're going to become best buds.
Starting point is 01:25:11 And Stroll was like completely fucking maxed out by the time I was done with Brawlhaven. Okay. And then it's like, you know what Alonso or Cuculous or whatever the fuck your name is? Cuculous. You're going to be like the second to last fucking link I finished in the entire game. Yeah, that's the thing is I'm like, as much as I would like to see where your story's going, I'm not that interested in buffing out, you know, faker. I similarly, I might, so here's the thing. I haven't been playing I haven't been playing high as me as ninja
Starting point is 01:25:47 I've been playing as thief. I've been playing him as a gunner You know, okay So I also did that when I was at that part of the game, right? So I'm having these things of like I want to go hang out with little Maria I want to go, you know see what she's up to but I don't really care about buffing healer right now So hold that, hold that out kid. I'll be back eventually. Would you like a very minor mechanical spoiler that will save you literally dozens of hours of grinding? Please. So everybody starting archetype
Starting point is 01:26:21 is very similar. So do you know, did you get the thing where you can see what people's S-Links are, what the rewards are? Yeah. You notice that the very last thing is unlocks a new heroic embodiment? Yeah, exactly. You get a new line. So everybody's final archetype is somewhere along the lines
Starting point is 01:26:42 of their starting archetype. So you can go in every direction you like to grab anything you want, but eventually you'll probably wanna like zero back in to what that character started as. Yeah, mm, okay. And the requirements for that involve the nearby similar things.
Starting point is 01:27:08 So like I'll use stroll as the single example. Stroll I would recommend learns some commander archetype levels. Because he will eventually need those. I mean, my stroll is currently like, I mean, he's the one who made it to Pugilist first. And he's- Yeah, well, me was Alkenberg. But like, he's one-shotting things like nonstop with the HP damage strike, you know, hits. So yeah, I'm kind of feeling it out right
Starting point is 01:27:47 now. Big goal. I'm going based on the dual tech. I'm going based on which two can do one thing and then the other two can do another thing. And those two can have synergy with each other, you know, is overall the goal. Um, but no, I'm, I'm, I'm, yeah, I'm really enjoying that, but I, I'm starting to feel this kind of torn bit of like ah You know the the things I mechanically want are not necessarily the stories I want to push You know, but yeah, but that's always been the case. But here's the thing. They're all pretty good Mm-hmm like like like so Alonzo. Let's take Alonzo, right? I saw a lot of people really like Alonzo story and it goes in a lot of interesting places But I wasn't like super in love with the faker archetype and I was not super in love with the rewards that he gets
Starting point is 01:28:32 Side note I saw the last one is you can do research to reveal enemy weaknesses. Oh, so you don't do research You just know every enemy weakness. Okay, but you also can like restart a fight after learning it Yeah, you know, so but like you know them right away, right? Right? Like you just go into a fight and you know them But the rank 7 upgrade is new items available from the magic shop Right and like the secret shop the one that's only open at night and I was like, you know That doesn't really appeal to me. How good could those accessories be? Oh Yeah, they they could be pretty good. Oh yeah. They could be like game balance annihilatingly good. Okay. Because I mean the igniters that get added to Brigida's shop are pretty nice. Yeah, no. Okay. And then you look at like
Starting point is 01:29:23 Bard on and you're like, well, I, maybe I'm not the biggest fan of the commander archetype or maybe whatever. Hey, the ability to run away from every battle with a 100% success rate is amazing. Oh yeah. Okay. I haven't done that much or needed to, but, okay. Like there are no like clear cut Okay. Like, there are no, like, clear-cut losers. Like your party members all get very similar abilities and they're all pretty good. And then of the extended cast, like, they're all pretty great. Okay. Something that's, I would say, kind of unique to how this game is playing out though is I feel like I rolled through p3 4 and 5
Starting point is 01:30:07 with a like Jack of all trades master of none approach Yeah, you know I had all personas that had all the dines and all the you know, I didn't do that either in this game Yeah, well in this game. It feels like what's your mission? What's the area? Build for that, go. You know? Well, because you can you can go talk to the informant and he'll just tell you. Yeah, and like they want you to do that. They actually are like, it feels like they're discouraging you covering all your bases too much, you know?
Starting point is 01:30:40 Even like a mage, which would have been the old game's version version of like, oh yeah, you've got every element covered So the bad you have a backup when you go fight goblins cuz They're like no magic allowed, you know, so exactly. Yeah, that's that's it It's it's it's specifically asking you to build around the mission you have and there's not going to be a ton of general fighting in the game. You know? They also do something really smart where so you have you have a party of four, which really changes the gameplay quite a lot and you'll get five and six etc. right?
Starting point is 01:31:18 But the game pushes you to start using the new characters because of the experience bonus thing that your old characters probably got from you hanging out with them. So by the time I finished Brawl Haven, Stroll was completely maxed out, which meant he earned just as much experience in the front as he did out of the party entirely, which is like, well, I might as well use the new party member who doesn't have that. Right, okay so- And so every time I went to a new area, I ended up swapping out an old person and moving in the new one. Benching people who are maxed out in S-Link, like, nets the same rewards for not you. Yeah, and like they're still getting archetype XP in the background So they're still feeding the new people
Starting point is 01:32:09 Okay, okay, are they creating? Yes, thousands they are thousand absolutely 100% fuck okay So if you like listen you get that final party member pretty late, and they are starting with one archetype, right? But you have six other party members that can feed them leaps of light for a full fucking dungeon. They're gonna catch up.
Starting point is 01:32:35 Yeah, okay, okay, got it, cool. That's pretty much that. That's coming along nicely. Near the end of metaphor, I'm doing the cleanup before going to the final dungeon. That game... Oh, it's good. Yes. That's what I would like to say.
Starting point is 01:32:58 I finished every single Bond in the game with 16 days to go. And now I'm just doing side quests and optional dungeons and shit like that. Yeah. No, I had my eyebrow thoroughly raised and I was kind of like, oh, this is a fun little clever thing they're setting up with the whole like, let's artificially create democracy bit, you know? But the Heismay like thing has like, I've sat up in my seat for that section of the game And I'm like, okay, okay I don't even I'm not even asking you to approach this level at here forward You've you but you've earned my respect regardless, you know
Starting point is 01:33:38 The if that is the if that's where we we if we don't approach anything there, again, that's okay, that's a highlight. Nice and early. The emotional content of the game is extremely solid, though I think Heisme is the highlight. I think everything to do with Heisme is the absolute highlight. The plot content, the very typical Persona team twists and turns, Pancake shit that they
Starting point is 01:34:08 always do. There's a lot of them. There's a lot. There are a lot of pancakes in this game. And they are all rock solid. They are all like, oh, oh, like slap my knee go what? kind of shit Hmm Okay. Well, that's excellent Yeah, and I will say that like that's the liberty of I think I can think like manga kind of teaches this but the liberty of creating a death game
Starting point is 01:34:39 Closed rule system. That's mysterious Means that you can like just the revealing of the rules and all that bullshit is exciting work in and of itself exactly right whether I bend these rules can I break these rules can other people bend them do other people know that they can break them you know I like I'm like I'm still like I think I talked about this last time but like with like this or Gantz or I mean I don't even count attack on Titan. It's like whenever whatever there's just a like like the whole situation Is an a larger power has created a locked system that you cannot escape from It's gonna yeah, you're gonna it's a it's a it's a cheap and easy way, but you get fucking pulled into it every time
Starting point is 01:35:20 It always works. It's the same old trick and it fucking gets me every time Anyway, that's I think There's a there's a couple of moments in the game where you're looking at what's going on you're looking at the calendar and you're like Ah, that's gotta that can't be on purpose. It's like it's very on purpose. It's a metaphor. Yeah, okay. It's it's a it's a metaphor, okay? What else did I do hold a holy shit, I've been playing a lot of metaphor that games great You know what actually like I was I was Um, you know what? Well, actually, I was...
Starting point is 01:36:04 That was my week. Oh, you had more? I'm so sorry. Oh, I'm so sorry. I got distracted. I distracted myself. No, no, I was just wrapping it up, actually. The recent parts of Rise from the Ashes, Case 5 and Phoenix Wright have been quite the interesting turn.
Starting point is 01:36:30 You get fucking the introduction of Gantt, who is a hilarious new character. I didn't realize Slayer had just waltzed up onto the stand. Fun. Fun designs flying to the extremes. Seasoned orange with the white hair, right? Orange Slayer. Yeah, okay. I remember Gant. And it is quite interesting to see the power of dual screens.
Starting point is 01:36:59 3D rotating the evidence. Ooh, two murders in one time. You can really feel how that was a new case for a new platform. I'm reminded of when Lonely Island did like the boo, which is like the OC, and I think they did the boo 3D where they're like, I'm having a sip of this coke and they're holding the can up to the can like it's just yeah yes yes this is on the DS we are doing 3D it is dual dual screens two things twin dual destiny happening now dude that's crazy you know you can feel you can feel fucking Phoenix guiding your stylus, you know.
Starting point is 01:37:48 It's a thing. But yeah, no, but still, that's all fine and fun. And I also have these moments of like, you can feel the characters talking to the future, you know? There's a point in the beginning where Lana Skye is going like, oh well, let's see you in a couple years and see how you do then, you know? When shit hits the fan and see what kind of man you are. And I'm like, I know that Phoenix goes hobo at some point, so you're literally just pointing
Starting point is 01:38:19 at the fucking sign. You know, you're just, it's not, it's not very subtle. Cause remember that fifth case for Ace Attorney 1 was written after Ace Attorney 3 was done. Yeah, it's four, you know, the beginning of the new trilogy. So that's fun. And that's pretty much it. So we're going to be continuing with Phoenix Wright this week. And I'm going to do a quick one-off day with Tactical Breach Wizards. Didn't get to it last time. That game's great.
Starting point is 01:38:55 You will like that game. That game is for you. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm putting in a little bit of Shogun Showdown as well, which is super also up the alley. And I want to just a nice little turn-based day. So I've gotten further in that and I want to kind of like revisit it, show that off
Starting point is 01:39:11 and get it some attention. So yeah, more Phoenix Rites, more Shogun Showdown and Tactical Breach Wizards this week on the channel and this Saturday, ignore my typo schedule. We're gonna be playing Rivals of Aether 2 over on Woolly Versus on Twitch and on YouTube. All right. What's up? You know what? Let's take a bathroom break first.
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Starting point is 01:46:52 payment for boot.dev. Thanks boot.dev. Thanks boot.dev. Okay. Man, I'm anxiously looking forward to how many associated acts and hip hop stars are going to be like hanging back and waiting and seeing how this flows out because it does kind of feel like, you know, there are times when someone goes up and says, or starts some shit or says some shit and like, you're like, oh, you got your homies coming up to bat for you. And it kind of has been thinning out. But when your final fucking like flails on the ground are like Kira-esque as you're like, no, me though.
Starting point is 01:47:48 Yeah, maybe I don't want to catch a stray lawsuit here by going, yeah. Or, no, fuck all that. Fuck the legal, fuck the business, fuck the actual streams and all that. Street cred. Just your currency in this business is also street cred. And whether that was bought and purchased or genuinely earned, which is the major difference between these two artists, you are bleeding it out with each of these flails and, you know, pissing and shits and moans. So I don't know that you can ever really pick it back up. You can recover a lot in terms of street cred. You can also wait long enough for the new generation
Starting point is 01:48:33 of people to not even know about the old shit, right? There are people that are still around. Chris Brown is still around making music somehow. It's crazy that there's a whole new fan base of people that are just young enough Zoomers that straight up are like, I don't know what I just listened to the song I hear. You know, they're like, you just wait the clock out on shit like that. It's it's insane right so in some ways waiting often times Just lets you coast no matter how embarrassing no matter how stupid or fucking criminal
Starting point is 01:49:20 Your shit can be and it feels like each of these just resets the clock and makes it harder and harder To get away from it instead of just shutting the fuck up. Yeah, I wouldn't fucking touch that with a 10 foot fucking pole. Yeah. Yeah. If I was in that. So, you know, understandably, you wait and see. Um, all right, what's going on? Alright, games this week not much. Went back and played more metaphor. I went back and I started playing Baldur's Gate 3. I tried out the adjustable party mod that lets you roll with like 11, 12, like every single party member in the game simultaneously.
Starting point is 01:50:04 And there's an accompanying difficulty mod, uh, worked really well. I'm super shocked. It even, it also showed me how the game works in that, like you go into a cut scene and only loads in three characters, but it clearly loads in the three characters that are priority responders to any given scene. Okay. Right. So like it actually works totally flawlessly
Starting point is 01:50:27 except for the fact that anything over like five or six characters constantly gets stuck in the environment, and I don't mean like like you're jumping off a ladder. I mean you start a fight and like Lae'zel can't get to the front because there's like seven people in her way that she can't clip through. Okay. So we know that like in terms of I guess the game's ability to handle the weight of that kind of mod, the game can split screen and it's got, so we know that it's possible. What happens if you split screen with that on though? I don't know. I have no idea. In fact, the mod says it's not tested for split screen. Perfect. Yeah. Okay. So well, it sounds like
Starting point is 01:51:10 an immediate fucking. So yeah, I'm, I, I, I, uh, I'm, I'm toning that down to like five people so that they can actually move through the goddamn environment. Um, aside from that, uh, didn't watch all that. And it was like, no, like kind of a slow week for me. Aside from that, didn't watch all that. It was like, nah, kind of a slow week for me. Aside from one thing that did happen, which is we are now in a new stage of my life in which prior we were in the baby having stage and now we are in the baby who can walk around the house stage. It happened. So how did it happen? So for months, for like four months, the boy has been like running around the house with like a little stroller, like a little like a like a like a toy stroller. Yeah. And like sprinting around and I'm like and he's doing it with like one hand on it and
Starting point is 01:52:14 I'm like you don't you don't need that. You could just do it if you wanted. But every time we'd be like come to dad, dad or go to mama or you know whatever, he would go aw and he'd like move. He's like his leg would tremble and you go to lift it up and he would sit down on his butt and then crawl forward. I'm like, Oh my God, you just don't want to do it. You just don't want to do it. Um, and then the other day, me and page were like, we got a microwave new microwave and we're putting the legs on and we're like, you
Starting point is 01:52:43 know, messing in with it on the counter, right and page turns to her left and he's just walking towards us See like we did not see him take the first step We definitely saw him take steps two three four five. Did he notice you noticing and then drop? No, no, he's just like,, like I should think off right over. Yeah And now and now it's a flip side like he'll either stand up or like walk like like ten steps or crawl Because crawling is still faster But yes, okay, so we're in a new world now We and and we're also in the new world in which the child can tip full over from standing onto the floor
Starting point is 01:53:29 And then be super mad about it, okay, okay? But I mean we're gonna learn how to fall good Next you know next week Joe Taro and Dio Full so I Taro and Dio. Full strides. Like me and Paige, it's one of those things. It's like one of those things that sucks as a parent, but you just got to eat it where you're like, I want to protect my perfect little baby boy and make sure nothing bad ever happens to him. Right?
Starting point is 01:53:55 So we were looking at those little backpacks you can get for a baby and you strap the backpack on and like straps across the front so they can't take it off. And it's like a backpack that if the baby falls, it's got like backwards, it's got cushioning and shit. So that it's like a pillow for when they fall. And I asked some people at like the, we asked some neighbors and I looked online like, should I get that?
Starting point is 01:54:20 And the answer is no. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no. You should actually not get that. Falling is important, that's a lesson. Yeah, because when your little man is 20 pounds and he falls backwards on his head, that's not the same as when he's four years old and he's 50 pounds, or when he's an adult, right?
Starting point is 01:54:39 Kids gotta learn when the masses and gravity affecting him is low that falling directly backwards sucks and that you should not let that happen. Yeah, no, the stakes are currently low as well, so that's the time to internalize this stuff. Like before the inverse square law starts to make falls suck shit, gotta learn to not do it. Like I can see there being extreme situations
Starting point is 01:55:07 where certain parents that have kids that are like, it's, you know, they need that little extra or something. That's one thing, but for basic development and stuff, yeah, you don't wanna rob any of the important lessons you get by failing, you know? So there's a part in toddlerhood where you discover what kind of baby you were dealt, right? Because one and two year olds,
Starting point is 01:55:32 they all start doing one or many couple of things. They fight or they hit or they bite or they climb or they run away from you, you know, like the toddler nightmare that you have been gifted. And we You know, like the toddler nightmare that you have been gifted. And we are now aware of the toddler nightmare that we have been gifted, and that is climbing. We have a climber.
Starting point is 01:55:55 Every single thing he can get a hold of, he wants to get to the top of it, which has led to just a lot of like, oh, oh, just no, of like just no oh my god oh my god just mirrors edge music playing in his head and that makes sense I was a climbing child but so that's fun wall right that's gonna be real fun okay okay That's been pretty much it for this week. I did beat Horizon. And I did something when I beat Horizon that I have not done in ages.
Starting point is 01:56:34 Where I did 100% of all of the base games content and I got to the quest where it's like, Okay, go fight the final boss. And I'm like, well I should try the DLC. And then I got one mission in the DLC and I's like, okay, go fight the final boss. And I'm like, well, I should try the DLC. And then I got one mission in the DLC and I'm like, no, no, I'm gonna go fucking beat the fucking final boss. Really? Cause I was done. I was just, I was finished.
Starting point is 01:56:55 I was completely done. If I had been like, I'm not gonna beat the final boss until I beat the DLC, I would not have finished it. Kind of thing. Was it the quality of it or just you were emotionally? I would know I was done. I was like, because you get to the DLC and they're like, here's more collectibles. And I'm like, I'm no, I don't want to. Also, I'm at level cap already. I have every skill in the entire game. So and then I beat the game and it ends really well. And I was like, wow, that was great. I don't think
Starting point is 01:57:26 I ever want to even see Horizon ever again. Like, like, like I was like, that was a great experience. That is a great game. I really enjoyed it. That it ended on a really good thematic and emotional level. and I thought that the final sequence was really cool and then at the very very very end you get the post credit where they're like no what if there was a sequel and I'm like man I don't give a fucking shit I don't give a shit. It's interesting because you're experiencing something I was thinking about with like the full Elden Ring into Shadow of the urge tree run. Oh, yeah
Starting point is 01:58:06 No, I don't back out to final boss is Not the way I would want to experience that game for the first first time or ever I am really happy Having it the way it was done, which is time gap DLC yeah, you know, and revisit. There's an absolute exhaustion point I hit upon. If I were coming to this game much later, where I'd have to just be like, okay, we get access to the new location, but fuck this, we're out. S0N3R0 So for Horizon, it has a really specific problem that I've been talking to other people about, and the problem is endemic to the setting they have created.
Starting point is 01:58:52 So the setting they've created is very interesting visually, like the robot animals and all that, but the way they built, the way their story works gives them a problem that exists as soon as you are past the base game, which is the huge amount of the plot is being carried along by the mystery. How do we get to tribes with robot dinosaurs is the question that you are asking the whole game. And then you get all that information in a very clear, well told, concise way. And it's super interesting. And then you are left with the most boring, like all the things in the past, all the, how do we get here is super fascinating and super interesting. All
Starting point is 01:59:42 the things that are happening now, bored to tears, couldn't care less. The politics of the fucking Sun Kingdom and the fucking Nora Matri- who gives a fucking shit? It's all the mystery. Now that I have solved the mystery, and they're like, do you want to go up north and hang out with the BANUK? No, I don't give a shit The part of the game that was interesting is Done now. It's the setting. It's always that's the the reason to play the game is the setting has you going huh? What's going on? Yeah a million percent and like the second game gives more to that But it doesn't give
Starting point is 02:00:27 Like there's no second mystery. No, no. Right? Exactly. And so it's like this should have been a one-time game, but because video games and franchises and Sony, you know, right? It's like fucking, I don't care. You can only learn about the post-apocalypse once. I'm looking at someone say that I'm wrong and I'm like, I'm saying that I don't care you could only learn about the post-apocalypse once I'm looking at someone say that I'm wrong, and I'm like I'm saying that I don't care anymore Because I found out the mystery you are wrong. You are wrong for what you you said though
Starting point is 02:00:56 That is that is incorrect. Oh Okay, so hey, so okay the second mystery in the second game is who started the problem in the first game. I don't care That's not interesting Your opinion is incorrect the part the part that how do I get a robot dinosaur? That's really really interesting I Mean I do as a person on the outside here That was my question was hey, how's the twist a couple weeks ago because I'm always great fuck Ted Farrow That is that's that's the answer, but I'm ultimately just like yeah like the thing I think about
Starting point is 02:01:36 the only thing I think about besides that game is being a large it happens to be a Sony AAA franchise, you know like that's that's Flagship, but it could have easily just been a random indie game where you're still just like oh, yeah, how'd we get here? What's the what's the what's the mystery of the world, you know, so mm-hmm. Yeah, it's it's great And I would say death stranding is a pretty good example of like how the fuck did we get here? but even after you get those answers, even after you get those answers, you're like, okay, but what the fuck is that?
Starting point is 02:02:12 Yeah, I know, like you said, how did we get here in Death Stranding? And like, a guy who beat Death Stranding and obsessed over it for months, I'm like, I'm still not like 100%? And part of how we got here? And part of that is also why Why did we get here? Why in this particular way?
Starting point is 02:02:30 You know the threat could have been a lot of different things, but why does it manifest in this pretty and it's kajambo shut up It's because of the genius kajambo and whales and shit whales and shit. But yeah, like the it is a really strange thing where like one half of the story is told so much more interestingly than the second than the other half of the story. And one half of that story is the one that's going to continue on into future games and it's not the right one Okay We're we're all yeah, really really liked it and the other thing like horizon Laguna is not on the box squall is yeah Last it plays better, and it's Scott. You know it's mechanically more interesting, and it's like absolutely
Starting point is 02:03:21 But like I'm fucking super burnt out on horizon style of gameplay And I think I don't know if I described it here or on my stream But horizon has like a really specific problem with the way that it's gameplay works and that you have all these enemies that have Complicated parts that you shoot off with various like elemental arrows or weapons But then you solve encounters. Like you discover the weak because like robots have hard counters by your weapons. And so you discover that you can solve combat encounters like there is a correct method to defeat every enemy in the game. I feel like that happens to every overworld game though. I feel like by the end of you know Tsushima or any of these things you're like you delete the struggle. Okay so
Starting point is 02:04:12 Tsushima is a really good example. So in Tsushima like you have like do I want to stealth them or do I want to shoot them or do I want to fight them and all the tools within right? In Horizon to fight them and all the tools within, right? In Horizon, you're going to end up fighting a robot. But what I mean by solve them is, for example, the big T-Rexes, the big showpiece T-Rexes that you see, the Thunderjaw. You use your rope to tie them down and then after you shoot them six times with that and they can't move, then you use the sniper arrow to blow off the cannon off their side, then you pick up the cannon and shoot them for 40% of their health, then you tie it down with your ropes again, then you use the sniper thing to tear off the other cannon and then you shoot them for 40% of their health and then you find the one canister that you can shoot with an elemental arrow
Starting point is 02:05:05 and that will take out the remaining 15% and then you shoot them with your high powered remaining arrows and you kill them in like 45 seconds. That sounds cool though, like it's good to find those optimized paths. Learning to do that is cool, but I fought like 10 of those and that situation was solved. Like I would encounter these as boss fights and I would go, okay, well, then this, then this, then this. It's done. Like it's over.
Starting point is 02:05:37 Like learning to fight them is cool, but if you play enough of the game, you discover that like everything has a like defined solution. Okay. That's like kind of like a microcosm version of what Monster Hunter becomes though, right? No, it's not. Because monsters in Monster Hunter are super tough and they last for a really long time. Yeah, you got to do multiple rounds of these like, you know chunks of life until they run away They also they also like vary up their attacks constantly. Okay, where like
Starting point is 02:06:12 It is it is it is a like it's a system of hard counters and a system of hard counters means that You discover the hard counter and then you do it and the the gameplay then boils down to executing on the method that you know how to do it. Did you play Doom Eternal? Yeah. Okay you remember the difference between Doom where there were things that were good against enemies and then in Doom Eternal there were things that killed enemies immediately outright? Yes yeah. That's the difference between Monster Hunter and Horizon. solvers. There's there's a good way, and then there's a right way Okay, I I thought that at the highest levels like Monster Hunter was like a an artful Like just you go in and you know exactly what the baby no you are thinking of the gifts that
Starting point is 02:07:04 Sun-high legend would post Exactly what the baby know you are thinking of the gifts that Sun High Legend would host That's what you are thinking. I mean there's so on point They are but no like a high level monster hunter fights are just there. They're a mess. They're their boss fights gotcha You're still card there. They're closer to a character action game than they are to a graceful dance You're not perfectly getting those guard points. No. No. So when you do get the perfect guard impact or whatever, you're like, oh my god, that's incredible. It's the most amazing thing ever. Oh my god, it's amazing. Damn.
Starting point is 02:07:36 But yeah, man, Horizon just doesn't appeal for like a long-term franchise the way that Ghost does. Well, and you were also like kind of like running marathon sessions on it, right? Yeah. Of your own volition, this would have been slowed out a lot. Oh, it took me over a month to do it. I didn't, I was playing like maybe an hour a day. You know, like I did not like beeline this over a weekend. So like, I got like a fairly like representative, like normal consumer fucking like length playthrough
Starting point is 02:08:21 on this. The only difference was that I actually went out of my way to do absolutely every side piece of content that existed in the game, which was a massive mistake. Yeah, that's... Sushima is way better. You've got to make that value proposition in your own brain and decide. Sushima is way better, by the way. As like a Sony first party open world game, the side
Starting point is 02:08:47 content in Tsushima is valuable and interesting and beautiful, whereas the side content in Horizon is like 60, 70% collectibles. I would also say that Tsushima is interesting in the present moment all the way up until the end You know, yeah I can absolutely follow the idea of like we've seen the places we've learned the things We're just like waiting for the last dominoes to fall at this point and like losing sluster on the way out. So, yeah Okay. Yeah horizon has like a real death Now part where you've solved the mystery and they're like go fight the final boss and any
Starting point is 02:09:27 content that you do in between those two moments is just like like this big like And also to talk shit like massive shit about the final boss of horizon zero dawn It is a normal enemy that has been made stronger It is not a unique robot. That's it is like the sequence is pretty good, but the actual final boss is a normal enemy that has been made more resilient. How is it not just a walking robot man?
Starting point is 02:10:07 I don't fucking know. I really don't. That is a really complex encounter that you have to go through a bunch of different phases of. I was expecting a really gigantic, like a super big dinosaur. I was expecting robot man. That's weird. Okay, alright. I was expecting robot man. Like that's weird. Okay. All right, I guess But that's that's what's been going on with me with one exception that will probably get into the news very shortly is
Starting point is 02:10:36 that I Had a really strange experience I was doing a sponsored stream for a Kickstarter called Anaya and as I was doing that People kept coming into the stream like they had like Like I was a suicidal person and they found my reason to never kill myself Just over and over and over for hours
Starting point is 02:11:04 People just sprinted into my chat and going hey man did you see that new Virtua Fighter shit like I like they were pulling me back from the cliff's edge okay so we're just gonna we're gonna reach into the into the this week stories cuz yeah Virtua Fighter 5 Revo has been announced and much to everyone's surprise they really just went sorry for the last one we're doing it over here's some roll back for you I think it's it's really fascinating that we had that talk about Virtua Fighter and you're like, Pat, what would you change?
Starting point is 02:11:47 And I was like, roll back. And you're like, no, but what would you change? And I said nothing. I don't want it. Which led to me having conversations on my stream and on social media where people are like, well, what if Virtua Fighter never comes back because people like you want to keep it boring. And my response was as long as a version of Virtua Fighter five comes out that has rollback,
Starting point is 02:12:10 it can die the day after that happens because we have a good Virtua Fighter game that you can play with good rollback. And, um, and then that is what this is. Yeah, it's exactly what I asked for. And then that is what this is. It's exactly what I asked for. And there's always a balance patch accompanying, right? Like they love that. But- It has been over a decade since the last balance update
Starting point is 02:12:34 to Virtua Fighter V. But it is a clean, worse sorry for that last version. Don't worry about it, here's the one that you can get now and it's going to be on Steam. And did you notice the developer listed? Yes. Isn't that interesting?
Starting point is 02:12:51 So when we last talked about Virtua Fighter, I said purely in my own headcanon that the only person that cares about Virtua Fighter over at Sega is somebody on the RGG team who was responsible for making a Virtua Fighter 5 storyline in Last Judgment and who pushed for them getting a super hyper accurate version of the game to exist in PC versions of the like a dragon Yakuza games. And sure enough, here comes RGG as the developer of your new Virtua Fighter game with assist by Sega AM 2. Of all the playable arcade games in the Yakuza franchise, like what is the most contemporary in second place to Virtua Fighter 5?
Starting point is 02:13:48 Like... Sonic... Like, hang on, you know, OutRun, fucking... literally everything from the 90s and then VF5. So, Spikeout Battle Street? Virtual Fighter 2? Yeah, but you know, but like case in point, this is the modern game that someone is
Starting point is 02:14:18 fighting for and constantly keeping alive in these releases. and they put out the trailer for via five Revo With the a new version of virtual fighter fives old credits theme Sung by the gentleman whose name I cannot remember right now behind all of your Sega AM2 classics such as rolling start With a classics such as Rolling Start, a man singing exclusively in English with the thickest Japanese accent you are likely to hear. People in chat are saying his name is Takanobu Mitsuyoshi.
Starting point is 02:15:00 G-A-M-E-O-V-E-R, game over. That man is the sound of 90s Sega arcade games. And the sound of, and the jingle of putting your quarter in. Piddle, piddle. Amazing, great stuff. So, this is exactly what I wanted. Oh, and to answer, well, I mean, we said it, but we didn't actually answer the question.
Starting point is 02:15:29 When you look at the developer on Virtua Fighter, it says Ryogan Gotoku Studio. And with Sega AM2, because it has to be Sega AM2. But Yakuza Team says, we made this shit happen. I love Virtua Fighter, said at least one person. It is ours now. We have taken it. And there were rumors that there was a new Virtua Fighter game coming out and there were
Starting point is 02:15:56 rumors that it was going to be Virtua Fighter six. And then this came out and or been announced. Apparently it's quite soon though. They haven't put a date yet. And so then it becomes well, is, is that the Virtua Fighter game is Virtua Fighter six not happening? And Rufle Monger over on YouTube, who I was not aware of, but whom loves Virtua Fighter and knows what the fuck he is talking about. He loves it. He's a big fan. So he is he's even more for real than I prior thought. I put up a quick video in which he described how disgraced fake person leaker Midori had old tweets about Virtua Fighter 6 that got copyright claimed by Sega like a day ago.
Starting point is 02:16:49 So those tweets were probably pulled from their ass and made up, but were close enough that Sega copyright claimed them, therefore proving that Virtua Fighter 6 is coming. Shoutouts to the Barbara Streisand web approach, where you just make a bunch of bullshit tweets and shoot them out into the ether. See which one gets claimed. And you see the one that gets pulled down. That's your dividing rod. That's how you figure it out. It's whichever systems go dark is where they are.
Starting point is 02:17:28 So in his video, he's made a couple of videos about Virtua Fighter, but I totally agree with Rufalmonger that we will be able to see the distance, sorry, the kind of ideas they're gonna go with for Virtua Fighter 6 when we get a hand on the balance changes they're doing for this version of Virtua Fighter 5. And I'm going to continue to believe that the reason for
Starting point is 02:17:53 no obvious Kiryu and Tekken is because there's a much more obvious place to put them. There is a... That would be a big departure for the style of Virtua Fighter is to have a guest character. How's Terry Bogard doing? He's great. He's hanging out in a place where guests don't usually hang out. The world has changed. I don't know if Kerry counts as a guest now that I think of it.
Starting point is 02:18:26 I mean, he's the curator, he's the guy who's like, they've been renting a room in his house for the last fucking 10 years. I know, but it almost feels like him being in Virtua Fighter would be like an in-universe event in like a track. Kiryu, they put you into this fucking video game. Can you believe it? Well, and the thought is that he's not alone, right? The thought is that it's Kiryu plus like, you know, the top four, so. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:56 And then you get to add one random new martial artist with shorts on and another guy who happens to be from Boston Yeah, there that that's your that's your actual you know what the absolute ultimate would be Because I saw some people saying like virtual fighter needs a boxer Because it doesn't have boxer has a kickboxer. Mm-hmm, but doesn't have a box no clean. Yes and I said I pointed out that I don't think they're ever going to do a boxer because 30% of that game's buttons are kick. To which the response is, we'll just make the kick button on that guy different punches.
Starting point is 02:19:35 You know what I like. But that's not how Virtua Fighter does things. It's probably more likely that he would just not have a kick button at all. And just have block and punch. So like Steve Fox, it works in that interesting sense because there's four buttons to play with and you can have two punches and then build around these two weaves. When you have one punch and one kick, like the kit becomes goofy as fuck. Like he's got punch and guard.
Starting point is 02:20:08 There is no third button. Yeah. Like, yeah. No, I think the road is either two punch buttons or you go, or you Fox DeFox it, but it might be a little bit too like obvious in terms of the inspiration. So, you know, it can also just be like a stance thing,
Starting point is 02:20:26 you know? But yeah, boxer would be a lot of fun for sure. And there's some other styles that could get some representation in there, but they're gonna be dry. They're gonna be dry and- Maybe they'll splash a little bit of style on it. But like you could do stuff with a camera to like make it more
Starting point is 02:20:49 dynamic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The second costume can be a little more fun. You know, not too much now. I so I'm very interested in seeing, because I'm of the opinion that Virtua Fighter has never had a chance in the modern fighting game sphere because the one time it did get online play, the online play was really bad. And the second time it got online play, the online play was really, really bad. And we've been decades out from Virtua Fighter games
Starting point is 02:21:24 coming out regularly So like we're in this new generation of people going like maybe I could try a virtual fight Maybe I think it is cool and I like it. So there was a time I remember when Dead or Alive Tekken and Virtua Fighter kind of had not the same type of headspace But they were in a competing zone with each other. Yeah, they were they were all like, you know, rivals. They were buddies. Yeah. And Soul Calibur was like making a break for it. Soul Calibur was taking off quite a bit
Starting point is 02:21:52 and going in its own direction. But it definitely feels like, you know, through persistence and spectacle, Tekken has now put itself at the forefront and is far and away in just a completely different realm. A new Virtua Fighter, I think, would be destined for a small but consistent corner, and it would stay there. It would just be a small specialist corner in the way that some anime games have a little corner that we're describing as well.
Starting point is 02:22:24 And that's about it. But like you said, if it's playable, if it works, in the way that some anime games have a little corner that we're describing as well. And that's about it. But like you said, if it's playable, if it works, there will be a number of Japanese players that have been waiting that will shake off the fucking dust. That have been percolating. Oh yeah, those bones will reanimate and they'll find a way to get back over there. Make no mistake, Fudo will get in and they'll keep it alive and healthy as well,
Starting point is 02:22:49 as best they can. There will also be some kind of crazy ass arcade release to arcades that barely exist anymore. But find a way to move one of those Pura Kura machines over and stick a VF6 cab in. So I think Japan is kind of your best bet for a scene. I saw Max talking about this and I have to agree with him very strongly. In my opinion, the main problem with Virtua Fighter is that you release a game at full
Starting point is 02:23:20 price or with some caveat like bad online and That stops people from like trying it out because virtual fighters fun to play It's definitely not fun to watch or or stylish or whatever But it's really fun to play if you actually get to sit down and play it So the worst thing that Sega could do is release this game for like more than $20 like yeah Like $20 is the right cost for Virtua Fighter V Revo. But also don't start huffing copium in terms of thinking like, oh well, every bad version has been an excuse to not have to test it honestly.
Starting point is 02:23:57 And the expectation is, and if people really got a chance, it would catch on fire, because it probably wouldn't. That's not coped, no. If everyone was forced to play every fighting game once virtual fighter would be the most popular game that's ever been in League of Legends would be a Spot in the distance and no one would even know and everyone would just be talking about wolf and Vanessa and Jeffrey and Lau all day Because it's the best one and it's the easiest to learn and it's the simplest to play with the least buttons and the most depth, and it's just the best.
Starting point is 02:24:26 And everyone would know that if they actually sat down and played it. Just turned the dial, turned the knob on that fucking valve. And now Sega realized that they have the best fighting game franchise that's ever existed and just sitting there and they can just put a they can put one out and they can just make a 4,000,000 dollars and it's gonna be great and virtual fighter 6 is gonna make 2x ko look like a child's game and Then everything will be great and all problems will cease to exist and racism will be over because we'll just be too busy playing Virtual Fighter. Sir, this is a Wendy's
Starting point is 02:25:12 Sure, man Can I just say by the way? For anyone that hasn't been just you know keeping a little eye over on it But like how fucking sick is it that like Maximillian is just like? nah I'm making my own Marvel like these just straight-up bank rolling infinite and beyond he's taking Marvel infinite getting the modding team and we've talked about it a couple times before and like so we've been getting some updates and seeing some builds and how that thing's looking and it looks so cool and pretty and
Starting point is 02:25:47 Colorful and fun and he's just like yeah, I'm making the one I wanted You know It's really it's really pretty funny because there is like a direct tie-in from the way that I was just acting to the way Max is dealing with Marvel infinite. Yes, because he streamed that game a lot because he loves the way Marvel Infinite plays. And he got tons of flack from people that are like, why are you playing this garbage? And they were super rude about it. And like, Max, this game is shit.
Starting point is 02:26:16 Like, you're just coping. And this feels like Max going, I'll show you fucking cope. Well, just dragging the game into the future and just polishing this and finding someone who can make it look pretty and and like giving people the version of the game that existed in his mind and his heart and people go oh wow actually Marvel infinite a lot now that it looks good there was a prolonged era we don't need to go back to but I remember what I was saying on a regular basis that the gameplay itself is pretty fun
Starting point is 02:26:47 And a lot of people were like dude shut the fuck up. You're coping right well The coping wasn't a word at the time But you're just like why are you going to bat for this bad Marvel game or whatever and I'm like I it's not it's not the gameplay element, right and That's one of those things where like, yes, with some fucking awesome just artwork design and re-approaching how it's presented, how it looks, the sounds, they're getting new music made,
Starting point is 02:27:17 you know, all of that shit was like phenomenal and makes a huge difference. But like, anyway, it was an annoying really could have made a really great Marvel infinite if they just spent more time on it. It like, like there were tournaments running for it. And like I was competing and going and entering and playing and keeping up with it. Gameplay wise, while hating the way it looked, while wanting the missing characters to be there, there was that bit where I'm like, but they did really have something going with this 2v2, you know?
Starting point is 02:27:52 And it felt really annoying to try to explain that to people that were just checked out on that possibility, because they're like, nah, but ugly Chun-Li face. And it's like, I'm not defending the ugly Chun-Li face, but don't pretend the 2v2 tag system here isn't working, you know? But ultimately I just, yeah, this level of like throw a giant wad of cash, grab a bunch of fucking modders and just make it your goddamn self. It's a fixer-upper, you know? And he's spending the time and the money to flip yeah this fucking house
Starting point is 02:28:25 And it is something worthwhile and low-key low-key like I don't know I don't know that you'd like say it or anything I don't know. I didn't tell me anything. I'm not Just pulled from your mind. I'm inventing bullshit here, so yeah, all right. Let's see what I feel like There's a little bit of like and What Capcom? I'm fucking max what and what say something Capcom's usually been pretty good right about leaving fan projects alone yeah usually usually you know this is not a what was what's the example I just had? Anyway, there's there's a couple of those that have that have not gone that have not gone
Starting point is 02:29:15 You know well However, literally everything with Pokemon ever you just say certainly certainly yes But there is that absolute level of just like yeah you gonna you gonna fucking you gonna swing here in this a a a pillar of the fgc nah you fucked up let it happen take your lumps eat your fucking cheerios and when you're ready announce the next one we'll be happy and ready and waiting for it Everyone will be excited. But in the meantime you sit the fuck down and let the fans do what they want There's a little distance I'm getting a little bit of and what energy you know
Starting point is 02:30:00 That's it. That's all yeah, I believe that they weren't gonna put Virgil zero outfit in in that you know in the game They're not gonna- It was done. They forgot about that. Right? The specific one from the crossover for with Whatever it's called the cross dive. You know that's all fan love man. So fun stuff infinite and beyond Okay, so yes, we've touched on Revo. Good stuff. It's actually up on Steam. You can go to the page and wishlist it even. So, we touched earlier on it, but there is in fact a word that Ubisoft is not too happy
Starting point is 02:30:52 about the concurrent player accounts being visible in Steam. And there is some internal discussion about seeing if they can ban tracking services from reporting on those numbers so that they can provide investors with their own data. Yeah, they can't. Yeah. Well, so, you know, getting Steam to change their entire policy seems insane and likely not the case, but I think they're wondering if they can pull out as an entire publisher or developer and go, everything we release, hide that or whatever.
Starting point is 02:31:28 The thought process here, of course, being that because the unsuccessful launch of Star Wars Outlaws has caused a significant fall in all Ubisoft shares, they need to damage control as aggressively as possible. Yeah, that's just not gonna happen. Likely not. It's not gonna happen. And, you know, if you are amongst those who are in the lower than expected number
Starting point is 02:31:57 of active players, I sure hope you're not running it on Windows 11. Well, yeah, which just broke all Ubisoft games this morning. Because as it turns out, a second further fucking ongoing issue is basically all Ubisoft games are having a massive issue on Windows 11 update where it causes games to, I mean, straight up just crash, not display at all. Yeah, they boot's like a black screen to a black screen or in some cases like an epileptic seizure causing
Starting point is 02:32:30 flash frequency flickering and shadows just in screen space and all that stuff turns out upon further investigation that like it's as you would imagine not just an Ubisoft issue right it's across a lot of other like it's, as you would imagine, not just an Ubisoft issue, right? It's across a lot of other things. It's affecting World of Warcraft. It's affecting OBS, lossless scaling. It's affecting a lot. And it seems like basically they've stopped the rollout. So if Windows detects that you have any of those program, any Ubisoft games installed, it won't force the update. So consider that as a potential way to kryptonite
Starting point is 02:33:12 fucking forced updates away, right, mind you. But it seems like the problem stems from something going on with the updates to DX, right? So they changed DirectX GI to require a type of non-standard display support and that old things or things that were made that don't have support for it's called MPO just result in these fucked up crashes. So it just made a new thing that a lot of old things don't have mandatory for and and goody it's a complete like it's completely with microsoft's fault like it's it's it's dumb
Starting point is 02:33:53 but yeah uh that that is going on at the same time this ubisoft thing is like extra funny because this is right after they came crawling back to steam because this is right after they came crawling back to Steam. Mm-hmm. Right? So like this is when they just started to go like, fucking fine, oh my God, day and date games with Steam. But if they're day and date, that means that you'll see,
Starting point is 02:34:19 because like, okay, you put like Prince of Persia Lost Crown on Steam, right? Well, that game's actually eight years old. Most people bought it and played it through Uplay. So if the numbers are really low, that doesn't really mean anything. But Star Wars Outlaws, that's real numbers. That's 2400p?
Starting point is 02:34:40 Yeah, because as you were saying that, I'm like, wait, I feel like that rigs about. I'm like, yeah, no, there was an article on PC Gamer that's literally called Ubisoft Comes Crawling Back to Steam. And like the article photo is just Gaben just on a lounge chair. Just feed me by grapes position. Everything that I have heard and spoken to about Ubisoft from at Ubi and from other developers is that Ubisoft is like burning down right now.
Starting point is 02:35:12 That it is all hands on deck and boy they are hinging their future successes on Assassin's Creed Shadows. We'll talk after the podcast. Oh, yeah? Oh, okay. So that's happening. What else is going on? Well... Hey! Cyberproject... Cyberproject...
Starting point is 02:35:45 Cyberproject, excuse me. That's not a real thing. CD Projekt. CD Projekt has confirmed that, hey, Cyberpunk 2077 has topped 30 million copies sold and Phantom Liberty expansion has sold 8 million copies and things are going swimmingly. That's great. So fuck it new Netflix
Starting point is 02:36:07 animation project cool Happening does not say Sequel or anything like that just probably would be a completely different story. Yes Doesn't say trigger either mind you so it could be anybody Doesn't say trigger either mind you so it could be anybody Yeah, could just be a brand new 3d more game art style looking thing. I really hope that after cyberpunk they like re-examine the way they develop games because I Have played every single CD project game except for I think Thbreaker, like on release for like 10 plus years. And
Starting point is 02:36:47 they are all super fucked up. But like they started to get like, like super fucked up. So like, it would be nice if they could release a game that is not just like super fucked up on release. Project Orion is confirmed, right? Is that the Witcher 1 remake or the 4 remake? No, that's the sequel. That's Cyber Pro. Okay, so that explains why the icon is not a wolf, it's a fox.
Starting point is 02:37:21 Oh, because if it were Witcher it woulder it would be yeah no Geralt's story is done he's old and he's tired yeah I'm pretty sure who I know who that main character will be but who knows for sure um you know who that character will be But do you know who any of the characters in the Concord secret level trailer are? No, I don't why is that do you think do you hey hold on? Why do you identify why kids love the taste of cinnamon? That the Concord secret level Doesn't have any of the characters from concord in it. And there's a whole lot of characters there's like the trailer with a character select screen of portraits and not one of them are from the game that came out, it would seem.
Starting point is 02:38:40 Or at least as far as, or is that the case? Or so I'm told told at the very least Yeah, I would as any of those I was concord and I would not want to tell an untruth It is my Opinion that The secret level. Oh you think you think so I The secret level. Oh you think you think so I is that what it was? That is what I think is that this is a trailer for their season 2
Starting point is 02:39:13 DLC characters And that this was gonna be a big triumphant announcement of the next batch of characters coming to Concord The last shot lines them up as if it were a character select screen also the final line is Discover Concord and it's like bitch Motherfucker. Oh no, not the trailer, not the high budget trailer for season two.
Starting point is 02:39:51 So like. Not like this. I don't have anyone I can talk to about this, but I would love to know if Sony tried to get this canceled. Like if they, like, cause when I heard about this, I'm like, if it was if it was me, I would want to fucking shelve that episode and delete it. No, no, not after the animation work, not after the part of it's part of an anthology. Well, it is telling you to go buy a game that doesn't exist. But it's also a self-existing thing.
Starting point is 02:40:25 Like, you know. No! Not if it was built as an ad! It's built as an ad, but it's also part of an anthology series. It's both. It's marketing and it's an episode of this thing. You know? So somebody in my chat named Hazzuzu, when I talked about this, described it as holding
Starting point is 02:40:43 a birthday party for someone who had killed themselves. I mean you you made a Much more fucking fucked up version of that analogy last week or the week. Oh, I don't even remember You you said something about a Baby shower for a stillborn. I believe. Oh yeah, okay, yeah. So, you know. Yeah, no, that's cringe. They should delete that.
Starting point is 02:41:12 They should say they lost it. As much as I believe that that would have been the winning play for Uzumaki, Oh my god, yeah, it's five characters in a row. Let's stand in there and just... Yeah. So, it's... The idea of it being the season two reveal is a wild one. You just... Okay, so...
Starting point is 02:41:43 You just gotta go with you know, okay, so here's here's where Here's where I'm gonna draw my line in the sand as to whether or not they should have cancelled it if the last Like five minutes of that episode is like call to action to go play Concord Okay, then they should really just have canceled it. No, that's insane. You obviously changed the text to be like, rip Concord, rest in peace Concord, 2024, 2024. You know? Yeah, what is there to say? Is what it is man
Starting point is 02:42:32 If you couldn't what if the last line is like boy guys we have a really big adventure ahead of us Will you cut the cord oh Man, just a character looking dead center into the fucking camera. Just going I'm gonna live forever a fucking a screen that shows you the the question mark reveal trail of progression release for each each character the roadmap the roadmap thank you like the roadmap screenshot fades in that's that's what I was looking for anyway by Concord now and participating retailers I mean the thing is is that at the very least that that makes sense because otherwise you like it doesn't you can't imagine they
Starting point is 02:43:15 started this project and went we're gonna not have anyone you recognize in it quote-unquote recognize in it from however early on right it makes it makes much more sense that this was a yeah a potential tease of sorts you don't go back and swap all the models out at the last second and re-render that shit so anyways that's gonna be like, welcome to the Concord. I can't wait to see what all of you new guys can do. Like the fucking hero shot. Well, there's some other cool stuff around. Well, there's some other cool stuff around. It doesn't have to all be misery. There is a spiritual successor style Parappa the Rappa and Umjammer Lammy type of game
Starting point is 02:44:22 that is in the works called scratch and melody and it looks pretty fucking cool the art style is also reminiscent of Fucking god damn it the the Rhythm heaven games Check this shit out Yeah, I saw this earlier today. Super cool looking. And the song in particular has these two characters kind of facing off in a duel and going super saiyan and doing... actually doing like kind of fighting game moves at points and stuff like that and you're hitting the rhythm notes in the same way you would in a Parappa style game.
Starting point is 02:45:02 Yeah, just really dope. Put it on your wishlist. Keep an eye out. Coming soon. Looks like a lot of just high effort animation and hand-drawn art and stuff as well. So throw that up there. And also, if you have room on your shelf, Piggyback Books just announced a Metroid Prime 1-3 visual retrospective. Cool! Which is, I think, the first art book slash making of for Metroid Prime that exists because
Starting point is 02:45:40 Nintendo usually takes their sweet time or doesn't approve a lot of that type of stuff. So this is coming out in, I think, alongside with Remastered or India of Remastered. Check that out as well. Just looks like a pretty book. I, in particular, want to call attention to the fact that Metroid Prime 1, 2, and 3, if you've only played it on the trilogy disc, you did not get to experience the individual game UIs, or front ends rather, which were incredible. Some of the best front ends ever deleted because of the trilogy disc. It's such a tragic thing. One and two in particular are incredibly strong. So yeah, check that shit out. That's dope. We pretty much hit the other points earlier in. That's all I was going to bring up.
Starting point is 02:46:45 The only other one was Microsoft said, fuck it, avatars can go. They are officially killing them off. Mass refunds. With, yes. Which is like, hey, a lot of people spent money on that, on cosmetic shit. That's a good move. Is that an Xbox Xbox and one PC and XS series no no I mean our avatars and Xbox avatars are
Starting point is 02:47:15 Xbox yes have you seen these these fucking Xbox ads they're doing you ever see the bottom of an avatar shoe no No, no, no, not that I mean the this is an Xbox fucking ad campaign. Yes. Yes, I did I did It's it's always good when you run an entire campaign around the confusion of your brand and the fact that people can't quite parse What the product is and which version you're selling? can't quite parse what the product is and which version you're selling. It's fucking great. It's fucking awesome. Oh, my computer is an Xbox, is it?
Starting point is 02:47:49 Oh, cool. I guess I don't need to buy an Xbox. Thank you. Because I have an Xbox. Turns out. Yeah. Fuck. Anyway.
Starting point is 02:47:58 Bro, I don't want Microsoft to leave the console market. PlayStation's going to get so shit what they do That you need you need a balanced trifecta of Companies fucking up and tripping over their dicks. Yeah, man Equilibrium there always needs to be two on the floor for the one standing going, uh? Now that Nintendo's saying we're doing our own thing, we're not even talking to you guys.
Starting point is 02:48:34 The one standing alone, it looks so incompetent when you don't have two crawling on the ground with their lunch everywhere. So anyway, yeah, and we talked about the MK1 DLC getting cancelled, right? So that's pretty much done. That's still a rumor right now. It is, it is, it is a rumor. It's not a rumor that people don't enjoy playing Mortal Kombat. That's the God's honest truth.
Starting point is 02:49:02 And Mortal Kombat and Virtua Fighter are like the absolute opposites like could not get further from each other they're like the one million they every single aspect of one is the inverse on the other incredible it's actually kind of incredible how antithetical they are from each other yeah all style all glitz and glamour no style, all glit- uh, glitz and glamour. No style. At all. Ha ha ha! It's like, none.
Starting point is 02:49:32 Fundamental. Anti-style. An- anti-style! Ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho Fundamentals. All right, if you enjoyed Mortal Kombat, let us know over at castlesuperbeast.gmail.com. No, that's not true. That's a lie, ignore that. Castlesuperbeastmail.gmail.com. That's castlesuperbeastmail.gmail.com. Stylin'.
Starting point is 02:50:00 Ha ha ha. Ah, you know, I think the Y is a characters might be a little too exciting they are they literally For that roster so much of a can't you Majima can't be in a fighting game because he has a knife It's too much seasoning too much seasoning getting out of here Let's let's bled this out a little bit I was gonna say something. Oh last but not least Apparently there's a new steam controller coming That's being shipped out to manufacturers word
Starting point is 02:50:34 Yeah, so here's the thing. Have you used a steam deck? Yeah, it's the decks great actually Yeah, it's it's much better. I don't I still have some issues with it, but it's way better. Yes Yeah, so I would I would love to see the third attempt at that Because I would love something as good as this PlayStation controller that has those little those little touch pads. I Mean if you can if you can hit a much more reasonable price point, that'd be nice, you know? But I do have the Steam Controller plugged in as basically an active keyboard downstairs on one of the things.
Starting point is 02:51:14 But yeah, yeah. I also like, some of my Steam Deck usage is not using the default controller anyway, you know? Yeah. All right, what do we got for email? All right, we got one from William over here who says, Dear Mr. Castle and Sir Beast. What's up man? Mouthwashing, despite requiring basic reading comprehension, has been a massive success managing to break into spaces usually dominated for mascot horror and backrooms. Oh, side note, by the way, yeah, that there are mouth washing is obviously taking off and getting more popular and it's hit the point where there are people shipping characters.
Starting point is 02:52:00 Yeah, that's the wrong game for that. And it's like, if you can't catch how tone deaf shipping characters in that game is, there's no saving you. There's no saving you. You're lost. Your soul is lost. There's nothing that can be done. It's too late.
Starting point is 02:52:21 Time of death. Today. Right now. I do say however we have to thank the shipping freakazoids over at A03 because they did give us something of note which is the naming convention for all characters going forward forever such as Jimmy Mouthwashing. Oh God.
Starting point is 02:52:43 OK. Is that where that came from? That's OK. Sands, God. Okay. Is that where that came from? That's where that came from. Okay. Sans Undertale. Yep. That's where that came from. Came from AO3.
Starting point is 02:52:51 Gotcha. Gotcha. And it just leaked out. Well, anyway, back to the email. Then it retroactively attached to people like John Halo. Oh, yeah. That's great. That's fantastic.
Starting point is 02:53:03 But, you know, we need that in the world. It's okay to interface and enjoy things without shipping characters in them. No, that's a lie. There are other ways to enjoy your media. Oh, by the way, actually, breaking news that I'm to bring to the I have it on good authority from a local Fallout television show enthusiast That set photos of what is clearly going to be the Novak Motel from New Vegas have been spotted in Baker's
Starting point is 02:53:43 Nevada oh season two photos? Yes. Okay, okay. And of note is that that that motel in New Vegas, all those motel rooms only have the one bed, meaning that there will have to be, there will have to be a sequence in which two people argue over a bed possibly in a passionate manner. And kiss.
Starting point is 02:54:12 Thank you. Joke report. Dude, I tuned into Paige's stream the other day and she was in the Novak Motel scoping out all the beds and couch situations in every room So as I was saying please no joke report Mouthwashing Please don't do that. No No, well unless you want to consider the mouthwashing the joke report of mouthwashing. Let's just which is don't let's just not Let's just not
Starting point is 02:54:44 Really cool hidden details though in that game by the way, like the Ludo board, it changes as the game goes on. I did not know that. And the pieces and where they're at and what's going on with them reflects the state of affairs. I bet you could play that game ten times in a row and find something new every time. Oh, oh yeah. There's a lot of discussion about things that are like some not so subtle and more subtle like kind of a thing things that you can learn about it like the yeah The obviously like you have like little pieces like oh, there's dice case piece. It's just starting out He's only got one on the board other people are a little more experienced and hey look some pieces are knocked over and oh boy What's going on over and then yeah, and it updates throughout the whole thing. Incredible stuff.
Starting point is 02:55:26 Anyways, back to the email. Despite requiring basic reading comprehension, mouthwashing has been a massive success at managing to break into spaces usually dominated by mascot horror and backrooms. The streamers and YouTubers are covering this one thing, but the true evidence that the Talpars crew and have entered the indie gaming mainstream but the true evidence that the Tallparis crew and
Starting point is 02:55:54 Have entered the indie gaming mainstream is the most suspicious award possible a terrible bootleg has hit the iPhone Take a look at this shit. We've got I need to watch. I mean you've got okay, okay hold I need to see on this Let me let me see if I can if I can get this going I would like to see this fucking boy. Oh boy There is an iPhone garbage mouthwash. Okay. Let's see if you can see this. Okay. I gotta blow myself up here Experience the joy so mouthwashing survived the mouthwash crisis with a little screenshot of face the app and Watch crisis with a little screenshot of face yeah, yeah and Experience the joy of unique crew members. Oh god. Yeah Mm-hmm
Starting point is 02:56:33 Explore the game spaceship filled with violent zombies fight to survive as Jim the co-pilot and rescue wounded captain in this retro PS one style horror and here's the crew sitting around the table looking like it's just There you go, right amazing. I love amazing My favorite part is how it's 12 plus years old which means they just modified an existing entry of some other shit They were shoveling. Oh, absolutely You know, so Yeah, yeah. Yeah and You know, so, yeah, yeah, yeah. And there's, again, there's more in some touchscreen controls as well.
Starting point is 02:57:10 So what is the worst but most accurate measurement of success? I think you nailed it, honestly. I think the fact that I- When you see the garbage balotro iPhone copy pop-up and Somewhere around the world some asshole goes. Let's get that attention while we can before they make the official one if they ever do Yeah, that's how you that's it. That's the sign I to this day refer to him as genius cojumbo Like mm-hmm that that death stranding shit oh Like mm-hmm that that death stranding shit oh the fucking The age meant 12 and up never mind my mistake. Yeah fucking skull girls to deadly airport deadly airport baby
Starting point is 02:57:55 Skull girls to deadly fucking airport I'm thinking about oh People are pointing out renaming your game Helldivers 2 and pushing that live on Steam. Man, I think back to fucking Street Overlord in which it's like wow Street Fighter's really made it. They're fucking throwing Ryu and Chun-Li on these fucking gas station dick pills. Heart attack gas station dick pills are getting in on the Street Fighter branding. Man, Street Fighter's hot as fuck.
Starting point is 02:58:26 Incredible. Yeah. That's, it's, it's, you know, it's the next level of parent confusion marketing, really. Um... And, and, like, the only saving grace is that it's never just a plain, obvious, bad ripoff. It's, it's gotta be hilarious. It's gotta be barely comprehensible English. Well the faster it's made, the better it is. And what we have now is that we have an existing shit game
Starting point is 02:58:53 and we're just gonna staple just enough of the new thing onto it, so it's just totally incomprehensible. Thank God it's always hilarious, you know? If it was just Skullgirls 2, with some bad zoomed in screenshots and sprites dropped in and it wasn't Deadly Airport, then what the fuck would we even be talking about? But Deadly Airport's just funny by itself. Incredible.
Starting point is 02:59:16 I think Bellatro was like the worst one I've encountered in recent memory because before Bellatro went up on the App Store, you'd search for Bellatro, and there'd be like 10 fake, but real looking Bellatro's. So I remember the first time I looked, and there was only one, and it was like garbage fucking, it was Balletro poker style adventure. And then there was one that was like, it had the app look and branding and everything, but it was balutro tips app
Starting point is 02:59:48 But you didn't know it was a tips app at first, you know And you just you get away with all the scuzziest shit take the money and run until the official thing happens But yeah, the fact that it gets up to that level. It's a sign of your success You know, it means you made it 100% All right here imitations the sincerest form of flattery it's true DSG says hi boring wooly and other definition of boring Pat with Pat's love of boring Virtua Fighter I was thinking that the tendency of various genres and franchises to up the ante and add more,
Starting point is 03:00:30 even if it was super polished and fun, you'd be hard pressed to find people excited for a game that was like The World Warrior and had eight characters with two or three special moves. Do you still have any franchises or genres you'd love to strip back in gameplay or features and focus more on fundamentals? So what other games besides Virtua Fighter should take this boring approach?
Starting point is 03:00:56 I have one right away and it's the boring one is still flashy, but this has been something I've been saying for a long time. I prefer slow Monster Hunter than fast Monster Hunter. There are two types of Monster Hunter games and I prefer the slow ones. The one I know is the fast one? The one you know is the slow one. Okay. Like the, like, what's it called? Rise and sunbreak that is like Marvel to that's the two world Street Fighter gotcha Okay, world is where it departed. Yeah, okay? Or right after that rather also. I prefer Street Fighter to Marvel I Want it slow, please. Thank you. Okay, so
Starting point is 03:01:40 Like for me. I want the entire design wrapped around that concept to the extremes though I if I want slow I want samurai fucking showdown Yeah, you want it glacial grab the grab the fucking dial and turn it all the way up or all the way down Give me you want the kind of game that if you were to be announcing it and there was a controller Malfunction that you think they're just playing high-level footsies samurai showdown dot mp4 I Think that that moment says wait like like haha wooly he didn't notice but like no I think that really says way more about samurai showdown and the way same right showdown fucking feels all of us
Starting point is 03:02:23 Everybody went oh shit wait shit, wait, they're not playing. Great, great moment. I have two thoughts come to mind. One is pretty obvious and we've kind of touched on it a bit, but Inscription certainly had some feeling to that right I did not hate where it went of course I remember you we talked about this quite a bit I did enjoy a lot of the the follow-ups there and they did eventually add the bit but you know there is that thought of like oh yeah but the first version of this was certainly the best version of it that That was a really clear thought. And then, I don't know, Nidhogg?
Starting point is 03:03:11 What are you talking about? Wait, what? What are you talking about? There's only one Nidhogg, isn't there? Yeah. What are you talking about? I apologize. Are you talking about? I active, I apologize. Are you talking about like the stages? You prefer the first stage over the cloud stage? My mistake. Excuse me.
Starting point is 03:03:33 It's fine. It's fine. And here, last one, also again, apropos of Virtua Fighter. Yeah. See, people love Virtua Fighter. Crashy says, just add, there's no new just add rollback in the shooter space going on right now. Excuse me, there is a new just add rollback
Starting point is 03:04:02 in the shooter space going on right now. Really? It's gyro aim. Yes, okay. The reason gyro players tend to shill so hard for it is because of the accuracy. As mouse with no aim assist is a huge pain in the ass to use third party programs to make it work, it'd be nice if games outside of the switch just natively supported it like Fortnite or Call of Duty. As veterans of the Rollback Wars, how do you go about convincing devs to make tech advancements
Starting point is 03:04:31 into standard features, other than just shilling on Twitter? Not just gyro advancements, but in general, like backpedals or hall effect sticks. Hall effect sticks. Damn. Hall effect sticks, damn. So gyro is better. It is notably more accurate. I mean, you've played Splatoon, right? We debated this back with Splatoon, and I remember, I was like,
Starting point is 03:04:58 you can aim really quickly with that shit. It actually speeds the process up a lot. There is a problem, though, with gyro aiming. Um, and the problem is very simple. And that is, uh, old guys like me, um, spent decades playing shooters a certain way or one or the other. And gyro has a unique issue that mouse and keyboard and controller don't have. Whereas if I'm not used to gyro, like the way that I hold a controller, like it basically
Starting point is 03:05:39 becomes like uncontrollable and my camera flies all over the place because I don't play games with my hands perfectly still. Right. Right. It's interesting because in like, okay, I'm reminded of like, uh, remember Street Fighter originally had sensor sensitive buttons where you got your strength of button by hitting it harder? I do. The first machines were literally tap it for a light bulb. I never got to use that machine because it was broken because people would smash the shit out of it.
Starting point is 03:06:10 Oh, I mean, they barely ate. They only made a few of them anyways. They're super rare, but they were, yeah, they were always broken. And it's, but like it reflects the idea of like, well, in martial arts, you would hit things with impact and that's what's being reflected in the game here real aim in real life is being is becoming a part of gameplay, but is it inferior or superior to the current things you're being asked to do? You know, if gyro does make your aim superior, then did it overtly does it's it's like like you have to lean in that direction. You know, like it's it's kind of an inevitability if it's something that allows people to play more accurately, faster and better.
Starting point is 03:06:54 It's just can you design around the fact that some people are not going to use it? And if so, is it just a mouse and keyboard versus stick thumbstick situation where you're like, you know, keep up if you want to, but it's going to be fucking rough if you don't. So I gave, I gave gyro like a proper college try during the no build season of Fortnite where they added it. Uh, maybe they had added it before, but I gave it a shot and, uh, I would go into, you know, a match and be moving around and be like, so you can set it to only activate the gyro when you're aimed down sight, which is the only time you would actually want to use it usually, right? And I would, you know, shoot this and shoot that. I'm like, wow, this is objectively way more accurate on every state because it allows me to flick my hands like I was using a mouse, instead of having to deal with the acceleration
Starting point is 03:07:47 of an analog stick. Wrist control accuracy versus thumb control. Well, it's not thumb control, it's just like you don't have to drag. You can accelerate however fast you want. You don't have to deal with like cursor acceleration or movement speed for an analog stick. Right.
Starting point is 03:08:06 But I mean, the space to accurately position yourself with the mouse is much larger versus the tiny space of a thumb stick where you need to do a whole lot more in a smaller group, a smaller space. And so I was like, this is so much more accurate. I'm going to give this a try. And I played about 10 games. And what I discovered is that despite its incredible accuracy, I could not hit the broadside of a barn. I could not hit even one person. I just like, I don't have it. And so I switched back to using the analog stick and
Starting point is 03:08:38 went back to like almost when immediately. And it's just like, yeah, it's too late for me. As someone who's accepted my place in the past with mouse and keyboard, right? Where I'm like, I can use mouse, but keyboard I just hate. And the thumb pad that I bought, the hand pads, the thing on the side, has been the best experience. It's been the most comfortable I've been with that stuff. But I like the feeling of playing with the controller in most cases. I know that I'm being left in the dust there. Gyro is just one of those adapt or die moments, I think. And anytime we face one of these where, yeah, it's like Hitbox, right?
Starting point is 03:09:21 People are moving into Hitbox not just because of a preference, but they're like, I can actively charge better and be more accurate and do more. And like, at that highest, highest level, when that fraction of a second makes a difference, you get the benefits out of a Hitbox that you don't get out of a normal arcade stick. Like, yeah, but old arcade machine memories, though. You know? But it's like, yeah, but what's that worth when you're in this 0.01% or whatever, right? So yeah, it's an adapt or die moment, I think is the case. But if people are, if devs are not getting it
Starting point is 03:09:56 into their games yet, the first ones that do will set the trend. So one of the things about this is like he compare, or the writer of the email compares it to Rollback. And there's kind of like a core difference here is that Rollback is about certain games like functioning at all. Like having a playable match that even correctly functions
Starting point is 03:10:22 as a video game. Whereas this is a control option that is superior to an existing control option. But it's not like the existing control option doesn't work in the way the delay-based netcode just doesn't work. Yeah, it's a nice quality of life value add, like the ping system in things.
Starting point is 03:10:43 It's better when it's there than when it's not, you know, but no, I, that's interesting though, to see that like right now we're in a situation where some things have embraced it, but others haven't and everybody is now on the positive side of it. I do remember the argument during Splatoon though. I do remember the like, nah, fuck that shit. And when it's, and when it's like poorly done and you're doing Star Fox and you're kind of like, this is not what I want it to be, you know, it muddles the waters a bit. But design a game for it, certainly, instead of adding it in retrospect, and I think you get the best results.
Starting point is 03:11:19 Like, I played Splatoon with the gyro for a while, and what I discovered is that after a while it hurt my wrists and I was worse. Okay, interesting. So like, I'm like, oh cool, I'm doing bad and I can't relax because I'm in pain. I thought Splatoon was a really great training wheel for it because aiming is very, you have to aim at the floor, not your opponent's, you know, like primarily. Most of the gyro you're using to cover a surface area
Starting point is 03:11:46 and then you aim at the person coming up to you for quicker moments, as opposed to all of it being snap gyro, you know. Also, for me personally, I would not want it to be any more than like, let's say, 45 degrees of movement, you know. I would not want to have to use gyro to aim my controller 90 degrees at somebody coming from my left or some shit like that.
Starting point is 03:12:08 Like that is super annoying. Well the usual implementation is analog for large scale movements and gyro for fine scale movements. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Cool.
Starting point is 03:12:23 Yeah, that'll do. Alright. Have a good week, everybody.

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