Castle Super Beast - CSB299: All World Peace Needed Was a 3 Button Layout (feat. @TheSphereHunter)

Episode Date: December 18, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 ["Sailor Moon Theme"] Rolling starts. Rolling starts. Oh man. What a great time for this. I'm worried. I'm very great time I'm worried Very worried. I'm worried. I am Concerned yes, I am concerned about Our profession yeah, I am concerned about the future of the gaming industry in general I am to some degree worried about the after
Starting point is 00:01:06 effects of a possible video game crash affecting the global economy. Because at some point in the next year, possibly two, video games will be over because Virtua Fighter 6 will release and there will be no other games. That'll be it. And no one will buy anything other than Virtua Fighter. And we have to get ready for that foreseeable and inevitable future in which everything is just over because it's Virtua Fighter time. That's it.
Starting point is 00:01:39 That's all there is. Every subsequent recording and or stream will just be the sounds of sticks being hit. Yeah. And I mean, like we'll have world peace and shit. So like, that'll be good. Because all global conflicts will then be solved in, you know, double limb three out of five. But, you know, like, it's going to be different. Who knew that all we needed, all world peace needed was a three button layout? The whole time. it was right there. Man, that's one of the best things you've ever said.
Starting point is 00:02:14 That is just perfect, that is dead on. Yeah. Okay, all right, so Virtua Fighter 6 has been announced. Now, Pat Boivin. Yes, that's me, hello. In this trailer, we saw our mystery man in a hat reveal himself to be Akira. Now, he is Akira.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Akira Yuki, known Karate Boring Man. Yes, now he is known Karate Boring Man, and some time has passed, and he has put a hat on. Is that too much flavor or are we still okay? So there's a really fun thing that happened when that VF6 trailer dropped where something was going on is like once his foot enters into the frame and you can see the stitching on his pant My brain went. Oh, that's our GG
Starting point is 00:03:09 That's how they design fibers in clothes. That's crazy that you noticed that that's why and Then it's Akira and what they've done and what they're apparently going to do is they're just gonna take virtual fighter characters and then just turn them into Sidequest characters in yak is a background of like a dragon games. Mm-hmm. Okay and That is that is like the perfect distance from their old boring karate man Selves in that they have didn't transfer to a different Sega property in style but just still that they have been transferred to a different Sega property in style, which is still realistic.
Starting point is 00:03:46 I'm using big air quotes in tone. So Ryu has gone from being a boring karate man to being a boring karate man, but he's thick and the fact that he barely understands technology is one of his character traits and his density is also become endearing. Right? Can Akira be... Is it okay to add this idea of with some time and some mystery, he is covering his face and he is kind of shadowy now. Is this okay? Okay. I like it. So time has passed. That's gonna be a thing. Um, now I believe... So we saw the footage, we saw him do his Tetsuzanko
Starting point is 00:04:37 on Sarah Bryant. No you didn't. Excuse me? So I had to re rewatch it multiple times That is not Sarah Bryant. Whoa So what is Stella the bridge between worlds? So Here's what here's what we saw we saw a. We saw a cutscene of Akira in a new, very kung fu hustled, like Hong Kong look. Tetsuzan going a guy through five buildings, right? Which is, one, that's
Starting point is 00:05:22 your tone setter of it's going to have a lot more environmental destruction, kind of like Dead or Alive. Then you saw like five seconds of Akira fighting Stella in a very realistically modeled, like kind of Hong Kong, maybe Chinatown kind of area. Which is not a square, and it's not a cube, you know, it's like a place. So it's going to be more like Dead or alive knocking people into stores knocking people through walls So she's a new generation Looking Sarah vibe looking character, and you also hear Akira talk and Akira sounds older and also he sounds like an RGG voice actor he does not sound like a Sega Arcade man clearly and we'll get to that all in a second.
Starting point is 00:06:08 So what I believe is going to be occurring for Virtua Fighter 6 is they are doing the thing that we all love, which is they're going to do the time skip. Stella is going to be a clone or a fucking brainwash or whatever. Akira's old. Lau is definitely gonna be dead by now. Shun-D still alive though. Shun-D somehow still alive. Yeah, okay. But like it's gonna be the new generation
Starting point is 00:06:35 but they will have like direct replacements. Interesting, okay. So in the direct, because like I did go through it but I went through it fairly quickly, admittedly. The theme of this week, you're going to hear, is the extreme lack of time that I have for anything, just for- I had time.
Starting point is 00:06:55 But in going through it and quickly, I saw there's a part where they zoom in on her model a bit closer and you see her bangs are curly in the front. So I kind of got little freckles. So I kind of just went, oh, they're making Sarah look a little younger and they're changing up her bangs. Yeah, no, she does look much younger than she's ever looked because that is because it's not a person. Mm-hmm and it is It I guess like the other thought too was like up close if you zoomed in real hard by with modern Effects would you be able to tell the difference between Sarah and Nina? You know like it'd be tough. It'd be really tough like Sarah always wears in a ponytail. Yeah But like the her or the the blue tight look is very very close. Those characters look nigh identical to each other.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Yeah, 100%. Especially as, like, time goes on. As we all know, that's because Nina stole Sarah's design. Well, she's wearing the... Because everything that Virtua Fighter did, did first. Well, the wedding dress and the new business gun look is established, so that's fine. Stolen from Kill Bill instead.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Don't ask him for shit. is established, so that's fine. Stolen from Kill Bill instead. Don't ask him for shit. So hey, two things, I guess, come to mind now. So one, because of that Virtua Fighter Direct, which aired after the TGA announcement, a bunch of people got on stage to talk about, hey, we're excited about Virtua Fighter coming back. Da da da da. I believe the person that we theorized existed, the person that was in RGG Studio holding down Virtua Fighter the whole time.
Starting point is 00:08:37 He stood up on the thing and was like, it's me. Yokoyama is the name. We have a name. The guy that went, hey, I'm that guy. I'm the one that kept Virtua Fighter alive inside of RGG. I can't believe that they actually put a pin on it directly. It was this man. Literally him. And he basically confirmed. He's like, yup. So we've got our new Yakuza game in development as well. Be sure to check that out. But RGG Studio and the Virtua Fighter team are working together on this game. And so they're just like, I like we kept it alive and now it's time we're taking it and it's ours now. And with that,
Starting point is 00:09:18 you can almost just hear the sounds of all the like the roster of the protagonists from RGG dropping into I don't think I know they're gonna do that you think they're gonna just ignore them completely I think I think what we are gonna see so I want to show like five seconds of footage right like of real footage one of the things that I noticed was and I'm going to circle back around, don't worry, is that there's no crouching in that footage. And characters are holding block but they're individually blocking specific strikes. So Sarah is holding down block, but she's putting her hand out on each strike and even doing a leg check by lifting up her
Starting point is 00:10:03 knee. Dynamic blocking animations are the best. Love it. Right. And like if that's for everything, that's a lot. That's a lot to do. Street Fighter V was the start of that and I've wanted it forever. I've wanted that forever. It's great. Actually, that's not true. Shikamaru in the GameCube Naruto game was the start of that. Oh, you're right. He would actually avoid your hits instead of blocking them go on but they I believe what we're gonna see is we're gonna see cuz
Starting point is 00:10:34 Virtual quest Was supposed to be the virtual fighter story mode that we never got right the open world RPG that happened to be virtual fighter And then it became Virtua Quest. Yep. Fucking complete piece of shit. Yep, that kid running around. So I think that if the RGG team who makes full length single player action adventure games over the course of a weekend is the primary developer for Virtua Fighter 6, that Virtua Fighter 6's story mode or single player
Starting point is 00:11:07 content is going to be a microcosm of an RGG game where each chapter is a playable character. I could absolutely see that and they have the experience and the team to do that. That's awesome and it would be fucking sick to give some virtual fighter more Context that it's ever had via a story and have to have that be the wild the wild story of the yak as a team is an awesome idea and if they want they can just put it in Kamurocho and Dotonbori and and fucking Okinawa and whatnot now. Here's the thing I think that fan expectations are that they would like to see the characters they know and love. It's a hope.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Yes. Right? So I expect that... I'm holding out the idea that there will be at least Kiryu, if not Kiryu Majima and Ichiban available in that roster as like a holy shit they're here because this is the studio. If we don't get that, and if time is a factor and I guess story is a factor, which it doesn't have to be in this series, it never has, there could be another way they play it, which is here is a brand new character that now also exists in the other game we're working on. That's what I'm expecting. I'm expecting the Virtua Fighter cast to coexist in the same generalized universe as Like a Dragon,
Starting point is 00:12:32 but I'm expecting them to never run into any B-lister or above. Right, okay. But C-listers and below, absolutely. Or Project Century Man. Yeah. Right? Possibly Project Century Man. Possibly Project Century Man. Project Century Man will just be in both as a means of like, hey look, the new project
Starting point is 00:12:50 showing up in the two things we're working on. It's look at, so Unika is the character from the Guilty Gear anime that's about to show up in the season as well, right? That's a very understandable move that crosses over the two ideas for sure. But something is going to come of the fact that this particular studio is now making the game. So, there's a lot of weird... So, they showed off that Virtua Fighter V Revo has rollback and that it has a balance adjustment, which the balance adjustment is really good, by
Starting point is 00:13:21 the way. I'm not going to go into any details, but it's a really, really good balance adjustment that is one of those things where it's like, okay, these are the kinds of ideas they're going to be pushing forward for the next game, and they're good ideas. Like certain things that were annoying are gone. Certain things that were a little... Drastic or small? Depends on how you feel about certain aspects of Virtua Fighter. Okay. All jabs are now advancing jabs. Okay, so massive surface level changes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, okay, okay stuff like that
Starting point is 00:13:51 That it moves back in they evened out the cast they read they reworked Taka all that kind of stuff But okay, so like and you're watching the VF6 thing and they're being really cagey about it but at the same time they're having a massive presentation. Like this is a big boy direct, and part of that big boy direct is there will be more Virtua Fighter directs coming, and also here's our Twitch channel, here's our YouTube, here's the Discord, here's the Twitter account you can follow. Also- Here's the promise of eSports coming through
Starting point is 00:14:25 Saudi Arabia because what happens is like your brain is going like oh this looks like a fancy big video game. That's really expensive. And well for a big first person like first player as our single player story mode like that would be expensive and and charting out all the move differences in animations for all this blocking shit would be really expensive. Okay, so let's super cut to the CEO of fucking Nvidia showing up on the fucking stream going, Hey, by the way, I personally love Virtua Fighter and also Nvidia owes Virtua Fighter. What? Like like what are you going to do for for virtue fighter as a favor Ken John? No, that's not his name
Starting point is 00:15:09 Whatever Jensen Huang Jensen Huang. I keep keep calling him Ken Jong the comedian. Yeah But like one of the richest men's men in the world is like sitting in front of a camera going I'm only rich because of virtue fighter. I Love virtue fighter like sitting in front of a camera going I'm only rich because of Virtua Fighter. I love Virtua Fighter. I got your back Virtua Fighter. I'm stuck on the guy in charge of Nvidia just going staring at a tiny tiny tiny little piece of paper anyway. Yeah that's crazy that's an unexpected one and also the tofu that that is a virtual fighter character design is the furthest thing from a video
Starting point is 00:15:47 Card box character design that Nvidia would like to put on their absolutely so that's wild that they would show up Smash cut to the Saudi eSports prince Yep, who never shows up for in video ever because he hates that shit So that so that is it's the eSports Prince. It's it's specific It's it's not actually MBS, but it's the guy in charge of eSports mind you And he's sitting there going by the way, I also love Virtua Fighter so much that I have decided to show up here. Yeah Yeah, so that's that's an unexpected cast of characters showing up at the end of this direct. It's this weird feeling where the Sega is out here going, we have fucking as much money as we want to blow on this.
Starting point is 00:16:33 The sky is the fucking limit, guys. We're going to push this so hard. Oh, man. Yeah. Yeah. So there you go. And the idea, of course, is that how long has this been worked on? A while. Probably a while. Sounds like it's been a minute, right?
Starting point is 00:16:52 Sounds like it's been under wraps for quite some time. At least seven or eight complaints ago. I want to say perhaps five tantrums have occurred in the time that this has been in development I I would say at least four or five tan like proper tantrum proper tantrum about this last week. Mm-hmm Mm-hmm, and I got the same reaction. I always got which is people going Little baby with this VF I like it is though I have realized something about like these, whether it's the awards show or the direct seasons or the E3 kind of moments, there is something that does happen every
Starting point is 00:17:32 year and I do have this like, if you wait long enough, things happen. Things happen. The things you want to happen, they eventually happen. Okay. Sorry, go ahead. And I will say, in terms of Virtua Fighter, the Revo Open Beta came out. The netcode's good! Virtua Fighter can totally work with rollback netcode.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Thumbs up! It also has really good tournament options and kumite options and round robin mode. It worked really flawlessly. But more importantly than that, I tricked Twitch into getting more than a thousand people watching Virtua Fighter by immediately switching from the the game award stream to the Virtua Fighter category before anyone can leave. There you go you locked him in. Yep I locked him in. Nailed it. Virtua Fighter is now popular. I did it. Does that work in terms of like,
Starting point is 00:18:27 can you break records by inviting- According to Twitch tracking websites, it counts. Gotcha. You can invite everyone out for like free chili day and then lock the door behind them and go, nah, you're here for Virtual Fighter. You all showed up, we had so many people. People got their bowls nah, you're here for virtual fighter People cut their balls like I'm here for chili alright well
Starting point is 00:18:54 So here's here's something now. I have seen a What is? Propoding to be a leaked screenshot of some kind I've also seen that leaked screenshot It is making the rounds on the Virtua Fighter subreddit, which I should note has tripled in size over the past week to six and a half thousand people. Well, of course. There's a reason to pay attention, right? That's six and a half thousand Virtua Fighters. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Unprecedented. Damn. That's almost seven thousand. More than dozens. That's wild. You think we can get them all? You think we can get them all? You think we can get them every single one? So there's a screenshot that's going around that apparently is leaked and it looks like
Starting point is 00:19:36 it's the same stage. It looks legit. It looks pretty legit. It looks like you're seeing Akira with and without his hat on. And like various versions of Akira's costume Which like obviously the classics will be there, but the most noteworthy thing is a second bar
Starting point is 00:19:54 Under the life bar, so you know what's great about that? Watching people just lose their fucking minds just just Fuck is that there should be that? There should be no bars! There should be no bars. There should be no bars. This is the most straightforward, bland three-button fighter ever. Why is there another bar there? What the fuck is that about? So here's the weird thing. Apparently the devs on VF have talked about in the past that they love the drive gauge Six interesting so like everyone was like is that a is that a fucking guard break? Okay, that's like the most well idea the guard break meter is the most passive and
Starting point is 00:20:40 Like thing that it could be conveying to you, right? You block it too much and then eventually your guard gets cracked open But we're also talking about a team of developers that are probably holding themselves back every day from typing the word heat Like like I was waiting for you to say heat if they that should be called heat So that's the net that's that's what that fucking book I don't care what it does yeah It should be called heat yeah now now the concept of we've already we've already been over this once or twice recently the concept of adding heat to a Very bland and normal pot of
Starting point is 00:21:24 Miso here, you know with the tofu in it, what is acceptable, you know? So this is like, this coincided really perfectly with me streaming a bunch of VF5 Revo. So first of all, VF5 Revo has kind of reinvigorated a hope that I've killed in my heart for a long time, is that normal people might actually like Virtua Fighter at some point,
Starting point is 00:21:52 because Revo being an open beta, had tons of people in our chat just trying it, why the fuck not? Yeah, but let's be real, you have been nonstop about this shit shit for so long that everyone has to Just for the sake of scratching that itch go. What the fuck is this thing that he's been talking about forever I think the the the most interesting Comments I've seen were basically people who are like well
Starting point is 00:22:21 I've never actually even fucking seen Virtua Fighter because it's so dead And all I've been hearing about is that it's so boring But now that I'm playing it. I'm blown away at how fast it is because it's it's super fast It's it's it's lightning fast. Yeah, those those strings come at you real quick But they people don't know because they never even fucking seen it Okay, because when I think of virtue fighter I think of the sound of tut tut tut right the one two three the chat chat Jab and like those moments of you're floating and the normals are coming out way quick while your body is slowly dropping to the ground
Starting point is 00:22:58 Absolutely Micro decisions you're making per second are infinite and It's the micro decisions you're making per second are infinite. And so I'm like, okay, so what is the core of Virtua Fighter? Because RGG wants to innovate through technology. That has always been Virtua Fighter's thing. You don't need to know if that's minus because you can see that it's minus. You don't need to, you know, that kind of thing. I have a feeling they're going to be pushing the new system.
Starting point is 00:23:22 That's horseshit by the way, that's absolute dog shit. No, you can feel it. You can feel the minus. OK, go on. You'd feel it. Sure. And just see with your eyes on the crouching job. Yes. All right. Yeah. But I think they're just going to push it towards like super, super, super aggressive. And if it's going to be super, super aggressive, then a guard break makes perfect sense. Or something to make your shit more plus, or better.
Starting point is 00:23:53 So before Tekken went full super, they did introduce heat, or rather they did introduce rage, right? It was fucking heat, bro. Yeah. They did introduce rage, right? It was fucking heat, bro. Yeah, so that's the thing is you get like, all right, how passive can we go with a comeback factor or some sort of additional meter? You're like, OK, it doesn't give you any special moves, and it doesn't give you anything crazy,
Starting point is 00:24:18 except it makes your damage a little bit better after a certain point in time. Makes you a little bit better when you're on the edge. Or if it's guard breaking, it's like you can't block forever. But otherwise the game is the game, you know? But then eventually that gives way to, it activates a once per round move and then you also have special conditions. And now we're just playing Street Fighter in 3D.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Installs, you know? And yeah, I mean by that point we had proper Hadokens also in the game. And let's be real, Jin's been shooting, Kazoo has been shooting lasers out of his ass since fucking Tekken 2. One of the things that's really exciting about Virtua Fighter 6 is that now we get to see kind of what Tekken 9 is gonna look like when they just lift a bunch of things from Virtua Fighter
Starting point is 00:24:58 like they always do. Oh, even when it was dead, it was still being lifted, was it? Wooly, what is the one bad Virtua Fighter game? Even when it was dead it was still being lifted was it wooly The one bad virtual fighter game Three What Tekken game came out right afterwards and stole all of its ideas and was like a weird misstep for? Yeah, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah interesting okay, and then for everything that happened all the ghost releases afterwards yeah they were clearly cribbing notes of
Starting point is 00:25:30 non-existent Virtua Fighter absolutely okay well no they also took they took rage from MK versus DC oh yes yes that's where they stole the right got it okay I'm sorry I need to take a phone call. Excuse me That's fine BRB. I'm gonna just kiss his dog All right, excuse me so I Think what I'm kind of curious about is just the idea that if you're standing around holding up the
Starting point is 00:26:04 Keep virtual fighter boring sign, you know But if you're standing around holding up the keep Virtua Fighter boring sign, you know? You're showing it to the wackiest, most funny and exciting team possible. Yeah, okay, you're completely right. So, I trust those guys. I bet, like straight up. I like I trust that team and I trust that guy and
Starting point is 00:26:34 One of the things that like takes a lot of the the the weight off of like the worry that maybe they go too crazy Is the changes they made to VF5 Revo are excellent? too crazy, is the changes they made to VF5 Revo are excellent. Okay. They are just, they are just, they are solid, solid system and balance changes that make the game much better. Okay. Okay. So then, yeah, it's a good hands for gameplay, it's in good hands for netcode, and it's a
Starting point is 00:27:01 good hands for story mode What I guess we're here and here's our billionaire backers, yeah infinite money I Have a sneaking suspicion that Nvidia is going to invent a new technology specifically to be used in virtual fighters for Dural for the I have a feeling they are going to use their DLSS shit and that VF is going to contract martial artists to feed their shit into the Nvidia robot so that they can get a procedural blocking thing going on. But something about Dural's shiny texture which before it was like, oh my god, it's reflective. Unlimited ray tracing, obviously.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Right. Yeah, so now, yeah, now Duril is going to be the thing that crashes all systems. Oh, absolutely. Unless you have the latest and greatest RTX. Yeah, that Duril has to be the walking benchmark of technology. But yeah, one way or another, we are clearly going to be hearing a lot about Virtua Fighter because Sega seems fucking all in on this one. Pretty, pretty committed. And again, like RGG love pushing that as well from behind because Sega has you know also committed to re-launching a bunch of old
Starting point is 00:28:27 franchises but as we've been all of them it feels yeah right they've made that decision to be like oh shit okay we can let's do this all at the same time um it's and I think they're kind of being spurred on by well one Capcom has been successfully doing that for the last five plus. And in fact, they literally said, well, I mean, we're gonna talk about more of that later, but Capcom is also way into like, you know what we used to make? We used to make good old shit.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. And I wanna say that Konami is also now getting back into the games business. Well, that's just funny in a different way. Yeah, so I feel like Sega's like, hey, hold on a minute We can go back to the things that everyone's been bothering us for for all these years The way they talked about it was like really a point of the WrestleMania sign
Starting point is 00:29:15 It's like we are excited to return as the king of the 3d fighting genre and be the peak of all fighting games That's just like holy I Genre and be the peak of all fighting games I mean it is There is legacy to the fact that this is the 3d fighter right like it is true but The world's very different now so But um But it is that it is that thing where the salary men that still play Super Turbo in the arcades in Japan, there's also the salary men that play Virtua Fighter.
Starting point is 00:29:55 It is that staple in people's hearts forever. But yes, Sega being like, hey, Jet Set Radio and Crazy Taxi and Golden Axe. Shinobi. Shinobi. Some of those releases are getting gassed up more than others, and that's just a matter of we don't want to take risks, so this is how you mitigate it, but in the process you also make everyone vomit in their mouth a little bit. I can tell you right now, Virtua Fighter 6 6 is probably gonna be gassed up a significant deal well
Starting point is 00:30:28 I but I I as they can't do season passes like other video other fighting games because characters don't come out fast enough This is where I was going right though. I think that everything Sega brings back They likely want to put it through the fucking gas chamber, but what's? probably to put it through the fucking gas chamber but what's probably sorry that's okay it is what it'd be but I suspect that because there's like an RGG behind it that's like okay but we care though right whereas we don't know where or who's involved with the others right now. There's a there's a hope that maybe there's like resistance to that to some degree. I don't think that we've seen any of the recent RGG releases be gassed up to oblivion. So you've
Starting point is 00:31:20 seen them have like pre-order things and tons of bonuses and and like massive marketing Pushes, but they haven't gone down the depths that we've seen The the other like what's going on with Jetset radio, for example happen I don't know if that is a factor of the RGG team getting like some some like Independence from those types of decisions or if it's the fact that that kind of like monetization doesn't make sense for a studio that puts games out every ten months they have an annual release like they are they are a sub annual release development team mm-hmm so when you put
Starting point is 00:32:04 out a game like this where you're like, how do you make this monetize and how do you make this make money for a predetermined... And they're like, well, we don't know. The next game's out. We put the next game out during this conversation. Yeah. And they're going to have to do something. And yes, season passes and DLC characters are a big part of how fighting games survive.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Seasons, you know, in general as a concept have to be a thing. Yeah, it's just like Virtua Fighter has a history of putting out like one character every year. I just can't- They're slow. I mean, that's generous. You know, but I also can you envision a world where here are your 14 different Raphael outfits? You know, I mean, I can imagine that because VF in the arcades had the the card that you would put into the arcade and you got cosmetics that would save your characters customization how extreme were the cosmetics for for and yeah okay the the cosmetics in virtual fighter five or about as extreme as Tekken's are now okay okay you make your characters
Starting point is 00:33:23 look real fucking stupid. Because yeah, four is where they really started with the card system and the playing online against people in different arcades and shit like that. Okay so then, yeah, you know, making money off of those cosmetics. Here's the bit too, of course, a chunk of this is going to be dedicated towards eSports in the game, for sure. On the title screen there will be an eSports button. You can even see that VF5 Revo, where there's just a fucking, on the main menu it's just
Starting point is 00:33:54 playing matches all the time. Well the first thing that got, the first new Virtua Fighter anything that got announced was the eSports decision, right before the Blitz Netcode release before anything. Yeah that game's called Virtua Fighter 5 eSports. Yeah it's you know so it's quite clear that yeah that's gonna be a big push for this as well and I mean as far as like players go it's very simple you have to incentivize with a giant pot off the jump. Yeah, I foresee a big pot.
Starting point is 00:34:29 I foresee a million dollars. No. As like the first tournament. Get on the plane and fly over. You know, we didn't even go into it. To get that money. But they also had Mark Man show up. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:44 And be like, by the way, VF is gonna be at Frosty Faustings. Like go into it. Get that mic. They also had Mark man show up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And be like, by the way, VF is going to be at Frosty Fausting's and also it's already part of the Evo Japan tournament setup. Like it's already part of the Evo Japan. Like they went out to everyone they could possibly get to support Virtual Fighter and got them. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:35:08 I wonder if they would do a million. I wonder. We'll have to see. Sponsored by Nvidia. Here's a million dollars. Or you know what? Fuck it. A million and one.
Starting point is 00:35:19 So they could say it's the highest pot ever. Sure. But whatever it is, then 2x ko now has to double it Immediately So yeah cool, okay well Dota does something really smart where They have like a bad massive like cosmetic like season pass kind of thing associated with the tournament And when you buy into that that money Feeds into the prize pool. Yeah, right, right, right. There is that there is that
Starting point is 00:35:51 Which I think ever I think fighting games should do I think Street Fighter did that with the sale of the The stage the championship stage. Oh, yeah, they did they did they did packs where you basically would you buy outfits and a stage that would Contribute towards the Capcom Cup Yeah towards the tour exactly that we're in a really weird place because Someone just said something really funny, which is well 2x ko has to come out for it to do any of this So we're now in the place of like, which one of these is going to come out first? And I swear to God, I could put money, Virtua Fighter might actually come out before 2xKO. Possibly, but doesn't matter because 2xKO is also free. Right? And that's a pretty big factor.
Starting point is 00:36:41 And I also think as well, well, just on of that thing I think you're gonna click on that eSports button on the title screen and it's gonna be eSports Presented by Kedia and you're going to click it and you're gonna go straight to Riyadh The whole environment will change One of the things it's like it's a relatively minor thing and I remember I saw Max talking about it and I totally agree with him And I I spoke about it and I think roof among girls. I spoke about it where Vf5 Revo gives you me a lot of hope for the future because they could have priced that to trip at the starting line they could have priced that like
Starting point is 00:37:21 Disastrously and it would have like like fucking been a like a nail in the foot like right away that game is $15 us it's an apology game for the re-release that they just botched Yeah, they can't did the open beta They can't sell this game that they just released with bad netcode a year ago For anything more than that. I mean, come on, you know, I that they just released with bad netcode a year ago for anything more than that. I mean, come on. And to those of us like me who want that fancy edition,
Starting point is 00:37:52 which costs $40, they're like, hey, do you know that this includes like the entire Sega AM2 music library, including like 100 unreleased tracks for Sega arcade games? Hell yeah. Nice. And I'm like, oh cool, my Be Right Back screen is about to get a massive upgrade with Sega arcade tracks. Thank you! Pat, can I interest you in that season pass including one fighting viper? Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Bon. Not Bon! Not Bon! Not Bon. It should be the... Lucky? The bike guy? It should be the girl that has the black girl who's in purple who has the roller blades. I forget her name.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, but Bon is the title guy. Bon is just a Jotaro. He's Jotaro and Jotaro is good title guy. Bon is just a Jotaro. He's Jotaro, and Jotaro is good for sales. No, put the Daytona USA car in Rent-A-Hero. I was getting there. I was getting there. I know, I know you were getting there
Starting point is 00:38:53 and I had to get there first. You start with a fighting Viper, and then you see Bean the Dynamite, and you go, oh no. They're putting, they put a fucking Sonic the Fighter's character in and then they let it sit and then and slowly You get your Daytona car, you get your Pepsi man, and hey look at you fuck off It's the fighters mega mix season and the AM2 logo is now playable again The last thing I want to say about Virtua Fighter, other than I love Virtua Fighter
Starting point is 00:39:25 and I'm very happy, is that they're really zeroing in on just the right little buttons to make people emotionally resonate. So Sega AM2's new goddamn sound effect is the coin noise from the old arcade machines. And when the president of Sega is like, hey everybody, I have something to announce to you. And a like 40 foot tall sign drops behind him that just says Virtua Fighter is finally back. I got a little tear in my eye because, like, they're doing it. They're doing all of the things. They're doing every single thing that I wanted them to do and then they're doing ten more that I never would have expected So I'm very happy young man. I'm old now, but yay. I only had to wait decades. Mm-hmm
Starting point is 00:40:17 Just see go getting pieced up and broken around and tossed at his big slow motion of his face getting like yeah but this time the camera pans back and it's Tifa. Yeah. What? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So obviously the second-
Starting point is 00:40:41 Game Awards. The second big bit. Game Awards. Clive! Clive! Clive? Not Clive. the the the second awards the second big bit game awards live not tifa dog oh yeah for Ben star becoming a fighting game character I mean that's all goddamn gives Ben start doing it properly right and not letting anyone down he put out
Starting point is 00:41:02 that tweet or that the Instagram photo where it's like, oh, you wanted Tifa? Okay, well here you go, fight me. And he's just wearing the Tifa outfit full cosplay. Oh, absolutely. It's great, it's great. And he looks really good in that Tifa outfit.
Starting point is 00:41:15 Killing it, get you a man that can do both. Did you see the intro with Reyna? Yes, I did. She's like, it's cosplay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's like, ooh, nice cosplay. I dig it. What the hell is cosplay?
Starting point is 00:41:32 I love it. I think there's a lot to be said here. But overall, the decision is an understandable one. Squeenix had a moment where they were able to choose between like sure shot and rise the profile of the current thing. And last time around Noctis was a big hit. They were very happy with that, clearly. There were... And like Tekken players were happy enough with it also that they made an OCTUS replacement
Starting point is 00:42:12 character in the roster. Weapon character is a lock from here on in, absolutely, yeah. So there were a lot of rumors and some very credible sources as well really, you know, standing behind the idea that Tifa might be a thing. At the very least one thing's clear is the idea to continue working with Square was, um... That was the only thing that was like 100% on lock. That was incredibly obvious. Because of how well it went last time around, you know, for all parties. I'm happy with that.
Starting point is 00:42:54 I'll take that over a Negan, no matter what, regardless, you know? Yes, I would. Please? But yeah, but when you kind of look at it, you're like, okay, so, you know, Tifa is a cash out on the, the fame and the most, the most popular video game, like, drop you can ever have. Um, and I also think as well that like, there's a little bit of an idea of like, it's a better fit and it's more obvious, it's a better fit and a funner idea than Cloud or Sephiroth,
Starting point is 00:43:23 right? We've seen them in Smash and stuff and there's a bit of an idea that like, yeah, they do show up everywhere. They're kind of expected. But Tifa would be a nice particularly fun third choice to go with here in that spotlight that still has all the gravitas of FF7. But by going with the current thing, like we were just saying about the new character for Virtua Fighter, you raise the profile
Starting point is 00:43:45 a bit and you go, hey, we're still advertising and pushing FF16. And 16 is on its way out, right? It's did its thing, it had its DLC, he had its crossover with 14. So there's not much left for Clive to do. Other than being in in fighting game so yeah a little bit more of a push to raise his raises is you know raised the profile of his game is a decision that I think they're they're gonna there they went with on the idea that you're investing in more right and I can say that like they could always if the game
Starting point is 00:44:23 continued Tifa's a surefire lock, no matter when she drops. Yeah, for the next one. No matter when she drops, if she ever drops, it doesn't, like, yes, she is, got like relevance yesterday, today, and tomorrow, because there's still another Tifa game coming out down the line. Clive is relevant right now, and Clive cannot be relevant later, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Unless they make an FF 16-2, which I don't think we're going to see. I just feel really good for Ben because Clive is out now, right? He's proper out. So Clive had this moment where, okay, one, I'm a new fighting game character. Also, two, I'm the main character of War warframe 1999 which also dropped to the day after the game awards nice it's been star time killing it and and you know that again he was he was willing to be Mario he's he's willing to do he'll work on whatever he's made it very clear He was also a Bolotro man. Yep. He'll do anything so You know working all day. I
Starting point is 00:45:30 respect it and Yeah, I don't know it's like it's it's it's if he if he takes over things like balotro and and Then like yeah fighting game cameos in a bit and Troy Baker's on stage there bleeding out AAA. I think that this new generation of Alex and Ben and voice actors that are actively memeing nonstop online with their characters. I prefer this. I like this class of voice actors leaning into it. I think, so what were we just talking about?
Starting point is 00:46:14 The TGAs, Clive. Clive, so the extended footage shows you a bit more and he does call in the dog. He's got everything. He's got everything. He's got everything. He's got the full style switches on display and as a very cool character that like looks faithful as hell to what he is, there's that part of me where I'm like admiring it and going god damn it he looks so annoying to fight. Oh absolutely.
Starting point is 00:46:39 He looks like a nightmare and he's gonna be- You see he looks like he's just drowning in bullshit and screen-fulling bull filling bullshit too and all of it is gonna be pressing one one one one one one one or two two two two two two two you know you're it's gonna be like the set to go of like five mids in a row or some shit the overall the sentiment I get looking at him fluppin around and doing all that shit and this is the pic two is that I'm like This is a soul caliber guest character absolutely Fucking techie Caliber six character, but because there is no soul caliber to make him a guest in we get this instead
Starting point is 00:47:20 You know this weird thing where like virtual fighter got to be Virtua Fighter will be the number two fighting game of 3d Fighters by default because all the ones that aren't Tekken died Man, you know like it just it would have been the placeholder and Soul Calibur was the guest fighter like Absolutely spotlight, you know, he's he's perfect for that world and chief is perfect for this one but so one of the things about like Tekken is like I think I think even Negan was like probably a good pick for the time Like their guest characters have been stellar. I think Soul Calibur had like a really Fucking dogshit run with guest characters for a while there I don't think they were ever able to run back how bad Yoda was.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Yoda was terrible because Yoda couldn't be fought against, right? Yoda like made the game worse by his inclusion. I mean, Darth Vader just kind of confused everybody. And then the apprentice was also there. Kratos was Kratos. Tobee and Geralt were good. Yes, ToB and Geralt were good. Yes, 2B and Geralt were good. And that's the thing is, it's the Soul Calibur 4 generation, right? That's the issue.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Because obviously the first guests, Soul Calibur 2, fucking spawn Hey Hatchi Link. God, amazing. Oh my god, this is incredible. Incredible, right? Absolute bangers. That next gen with them and then... The Star Wars gang. The Star Wars gang.
Starting point is 00:48:49 And all the manga characters. Yes, I was gonna say Scheherazade. Well, they were... Original characters designed by Mangaka, so not quite the same as guest characters, but Ezio coming in was a pretty good pick. I thought that fit really well. And... coming in was a pretty good pick. I thought that fit really well. And what are we forgetting? 2B, Geralt. Probably somebody else. Okay, I feel like there's like one other. But yeah, in any case, Soul Calibur should exist, man man No, it's too late now
Starting point is 00:49:27 No you like soul caliber can't exist because by a dynamco is not gonna split their attention on two different fighting game series When they have to have all hands on deck because they're afraid of virtual fighter how Maru Yes, that's a that's that's another slam dunk ass pick, but actually, let's not, lest we forget on the Wii Soul Calibur game, Lloyd from the Tales series was playable. Yeah. I remember that.
Starting point is 00:50:00 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Lloyd was playable in like Broken Destinies, or no, not Broken, whatever, dual, yeah, yeah Lloyd was was playable in like broken destinies or or no not broken the whatever dual whatever waggle game Waggle game. Yes, full caliber legends had a tales character in it fucking crazy Yeah, so so There's the game awards and then there's a bunch of these follow-up stories But there are a lot of game award shit there are did you have anything then there's a bunch of these follow up stories. But there are a lot of game award shit. There are.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Did you have anything for a week? I played a bunch of Virtua Fighter tournaments with my chat and they went really well and they were really exciting. And Gene's pretty good. I did not know this. Every new piece of information I learned about Gene Park, friend of the show, is like one of those things where like, I love you, can we be best friends kind of information where he's just sitting around going, I love Virtua Fighter, I used to play Virtua
Starting point is 00:50:53 Fighter all the time, like fuck yeah you did Gene, holy shit. He's nice with it? Yes. That's pretty sick. I played, yeah I did that and I played some other crap. But oh yeah, you know what? I've discovered I did all of my weeklies and dailies in Marvel Rivals over a couple days and all I need, and you know that weird part where all you need to do to get the costumes is actually just buy the battle pass instead of, because you already earned all the currency?
Starting point is 00:51:21 Yes. And I'm torn onto it because I think I might be like complete dog-ass fucking dog shit at Marvel Rivals. I think I might be actually like fucking super terrible. I have fun playing it. But like I think I might just suck ass at that game. Once the children go to sleep, you're having a hard time? It seems like that, yes.
Starting point is 00:51:43 OK. OK. But it's fun though very I'm trash okay yes that's okay so that's pretty much the deal where do we fucking start on the on the TGA so yeah for me again the extremely sorry I've been super busy not a ton to talk about, but Cyberpunk, I did end up, after all the shenanigans previously, I did one more boot on the day of after doing a full Nvidia driver reinstall
Starting point is 00:52:18 and hit me another crash and went, all right, console time. So we jumped over to PS5. All right, console time it is. And yeah, pushed into that first mission or so. Everything after meeting Dex, I think it was all part of the tutorial, not tutorial, but the demo of how the game was going to work and stuff. After doing it, that first mission, where at the end there's like 11 different outcomes or so.
Starting point is 00:52:47 And I kind of remembered, I was like, oh yeah, I'm remembering a demo that involved using the little robot dog inside that mission at some point and stuff. And I was just kind of getting my bearings crawling around and then like failed two stealth moments and went, all right, we're going hot. And just took everybody out.
Starting point is 00:53:05 So just did the most like fucking loud, you know, run and slash thing possible in those, in that mission. But it just does, it feels like if there's a bunch of hyper specific, really detailed, cool outcomes that like stepping on a loud box might destroy, then this game is gonna, we're gonna have a lot of potentially cool moments lost. Hey, don't worry about it. You know why? Because that's the vertical slice mission, which means it's by far the most complex mission in the entire game. Okay. Yeah, I just, I'm reminded of like, you know, also like DX a bit, like having those kind
Starting point is 00:53:51 of moments, but the moment it goes bad, it's like, all right, we're going hot. All right, time to stab and shoot these people. But it does seem that like, in order to make sure that you don't miss out on all the cool things that the game has, the developers have put into the game, you go hot for this room. And then the next room, you can try again. Yeah, I like that. So that's fair.
Starting point is 00:54:16 And yeah, I mean, not much to it except just I very quickly have learned that, ooh, if you ignore that tech stat, you're not going to have a fun time. So you put things where you want to, but conversation right off the bat is like, oh, your tech's too low. You can't notice that. You can't say that. You can't do that. Or like... Yeah, I noticed that as well. But they all do. All five stats have something like that. Okay. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:45 What's coming up this week on Woolly Versus? Nothing. Well, that's a good amount of stuff. But I was also going to mention something else, too. I'm sorry. So, yeah, I did start Thousand X Resist, and not much to say so far. Just one session, no context. Still learning what's going on with the story.
Starting point is 00:55:03 We'll see I watched the one I watched the secret level for Mega Man Yes, did you check that out? I did not it's pretty short and it's awesome Cool, very cool. It's just a and it's been picked up for a second season sweet I'm hearing that a lot of them are hit or miss. The Mega Man one is the only one I've seen so far. It's pretty much just, yeah, it's almost like reading one of the comics, you know, from the run. Was it the Ian Flynn run, I think, or so? Anyway, but like, yeah, it's almost like that, just like high budget animation and very, very cool so far.
Starting point is 00:55:45 I would love to see more of that if it ever were possible, but I don't know that any of these things are kind of set up to necessarily revisit them immediately. Oh, I don't think they're going to revisit them, but Secret Level itself has been picked up for a second season. The anthology is working. That's pretty cool. No great great stuff and you know as something where you're like Mega Man's needed a win for a while now
Starting point is 00:56:11 it's nice to kind of just see a little like Rockman dub you know. Maybe Mega Man will have a win in the future. Maybe but for now we'll take this little four-minute cut scene of rock and light hanging out. Very cool. Did you say four minutes? Four minutes. Wait, how long are these episodes? It was extremely short. It was basically the intro of a video game.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Oh. Okay. Yep. The other half of the eight minutes is credits, you know? So, yeah, it's not much. Oh, oh, I can bang this out in like an afternoon then. I don't know that they're all like that, but at least that one is. Yep, so this week, no streams as I'm going to be doing a lot, but on this weekend, Thursday I'm going to be flying out to Florida.
Starting point is 00:57:11 So for Friday, Saturday and Sunday, if you are in the Orlando area, come on down to Holiday Matsuri where me and Reggie are gonna be there. It's also CEO taku. So simultaneous Tournament and anime con in the same venue. We're gonna be doing some stuff on the stage in the gaming room so we've got Four events planned for the weekend. There's gonna be like a just a regular damn regular panel. There's gonna be fighting game sound trivia, or you're going to have to listen and try to like, you know, be tough, see how quickly you can identify what's being played.
Starting point is 00:57:54 And then the the debut of a brand new thing, fighting game charades. Oh, so it's going gonna be about getting on stage and performing the move that you draw to the best of your ability and seeing if- Oh, that's gonna be cringe. Seeing if other people can actually guess it and figure it out.
Starting point is 00:58:18 I'm doing a cringe test on it. Oh yeah. I'm doing a cringe test. We'll see, We'll see. But I think I think there's a potential for for big laughs if if people do it terribly. So should be fun. And yeah and then there's going to be a signing as well so come hang out. Okay. At Holiday Matsuri if you're in the Florida area with me and Reggie
Starting point is 00:58:48 On my end I'm just gonna be streaming as usual you're gonna do turnip boy robs the bank and Checking out animal well as well as some more Marvel rivals and some backlog stuff go to twitch.tv slash Pat stares at That's it for me We got too much news. Okay stairs at that's it for me we got too much news okay all right so the game awards happened and everything was announced and you know what that's the that's the TGA's awards for games the TGA game awards the TGA game awards 2024 you know what as far as the announcements ago pretty fucking good year man Pretty cool stuff all in all positive
Starting point is 00:59:31 There is a Yeah, a lot of a lot of things were covered that I think we're all pretty happy about I think there's a bunch of shit there that I was like the dead last fucking thing I ever expected to fucking see for sure for sure I did not expect to see the fucking words Elden Ring show up on the screen in so all insane right now and like and like Never mind the the personal check marks that ours like Virtua Fighter and like Okami and stuff like yeah The fact that they said there's more coming is insane No, it was pretty exciting and and I was fairly dead inside as that was the fourth shift fifth technically, right? absolutely dying
Starting point is 01:00:09 but I The other and I've said them for many times as well that I'm like I also hate like sitting down with a cynical attitude to watch these things like I've it just it kills me I don't I don't want to fucking I need to water my flower internally me. I don't want to fucking... I need to water my flower internally. But no, there was a lot of good shit happening there. And it was also nice to kind of see Balletro get that nice recognition, Balletro getting the sweep, and Local Thunk is nowhere to be seen. I really like Local Thunk. I like how he's like, I want to be a mystery person because gamers are weird. And I also like that he shat all over fucking EA Sports
Starting point is 01:00:48 yesterday because Ballotro got an 18 plus rating from Peggy. He's like, so sorry, it's got playing cards. Should I have filled it with real gambling and put footballs on it to fool you idiots? Like, just real, real fucking. Yeah, no, you know, I like the idea. It's pretty cool.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Like, he's like, all right, keeping his head down. his head down easy sticking at it doesn't want to deal with all that But people are recognizing the game and that's dope and you know what apparently he might have narrowly avoided Getting jumped by the Wukong team This may be unpopular but I would like to give a tiny little golf clap to Jeff Keighley for one putting on a good show It's much more interesting to me allowing the Muppets to just shit all over him It's that shit all over him Statler and Waldorf went in they did They also made sure that flute man was given no seat. He was given his own camera. He was set up so flute man goes strong That toots incredible how and then also like again. Yeah, so the the announcements were solid, but there was some good
Starting point is 01:01:55 There's some good bits the the best narrative bit Right, how come you haven't won this Troy? No, no, not that no, no, no Sam like How come you haven't won this Troy? No, no, not that no, no, no, no, um, um Sam Lake Of narrating now and then it goes to black and white and it does the whole bit. Yeah, very good. I love Sam Lee. That was fun and Yeah, like, you know what what are two other bits that were just like, okay, that's that's dope, you know Kojima just flexing in a goddamn fucking
Starting point is 01:02:24 What's the word maybe bedazzled Like I thought in jacket I thought there was this very interesting distinction that when Aaron Paul and Laura Bailey came out Where one is a big-time TV actor and one is a big-time voice actor It was like astonishing to see because you usually expect, well, video game actors are like, you know, it's not real, whatever. But Aaron Paul was being Aaron Paul and Laura Bailey was bursting at the seams with overwhelming charisma. Just absolutely ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:03:08 That was that was good. Snoop Dogg comes up on stage and confirms that yes, little kids are now allowed to see walk because it's in Fortnite. That's got scaring. He is officially endorsed it. And the fucking doggy style mascot from his first album is also an outfit you see in the background there which is hilarious and crazy because The first so Snoop Doggy Dog's first album doggy style has hit like the little mascot cute dog version of him But it's also got a bunch of like girl dog asses all over the album So if you know what that character is and when what it represents it's just kind of insane to see it in fortnight yeah we have we are
Starting point is 01:03:50 we are in a like absurd alternate universe because this means that I think as of tomorrow that like the skippity toilet can Crip-Lock with their Jordans on that's true that is. That's fucking weird. I also, although, speaking of Skippity Toilet, I think I saw someone on the someone who's on the narrative team on Borderlands said they might just fucking end it all. We have something to talk about when you get to that Borderlands stuff. I have my eye on that. I can't promise that there won't be we're gonna tell we're gonna dial the
Starting point is 01:04:26 writing back a little bit. Um, you know what fuck it we'll talk about it right now. The tone trailer they showed didn't have a joke in it for Borderlands. Right already a really good fucking start. So this is like no, we were not going to have a skibbity bit and then someone was like what if they had a gun called Hawk 2A? And he's like I want to put my hand into a garbage disposal. And it's like this is the most exciting thing you could possibly say about Borderlands. Oh man. Yeah that's a forever franchise, right? Like that's... Oh, they're really fucking fun to play. Okay, so...
Starting point is 01:05:14 You want to do it sequentially in order? Like there were so fucking many things. Yeah, I mean I have a layout here with some highlights. Alright, just hit me with the list. Alright, so hey Siri confirmed Which are for yep That was So I mean you didn't play Witcher 3 but if you did that was like I was obvious fucking character pick in the in the world
Starting point is 01:05:36 And because I said that name it fucking activates every machine You mean serilla If you want to say that or zero ale if you prefer That's like the most obvious fucking thing in the world like Witcher 3 has multiple endings that set up Maybe she could be a witcher in the next game because Geralt so old So that yeah, I remember I remember hearing about I think you mentioning and other people as well the idea that it's like I remember hearing about, I think you mentioning it and other people as well, the idea that's like, okay, if Witcher continues, there's clearly going to be a new one and it'll be one of these supporting characters. Yeah, and it's in the series.
Starting point is 01:06:14 Yeah, okay. And so my question that I asked, which Chad answered during the stream was, my impression of the Witcher series is that the majority of its appeal is in Geralt's own grumbly Personality and not necessarily the job he's performing That is all well. I mean the job is also really cool Right, but like Geralt being tired for every moment of every game is really funny Yes now so the idea of like well, there's a new Witcher in town, but like, what is their attitude? It needs to make sure they it needs to be an appealing fun attitude, because that's doing the majority of the heavy lifting, right? That being
Starting point is 01:06:54 said, if I were to just jump somewhere else, if you asked me, I would have said Dante being a wacky woohoo pizza man is the majority of what's going on there. Yeah, absolutely. In addition to incredible gameplay. So when you hand it over to like a serious punk kid, we're not sure how that's going to land, but it turns out it's fucking excellent. So if it makes anybody feel better, even from the small bit that we saw of Witcher 4, which was just a CG trailer, Ciri is now also tired.
Starting point is 01:07:27 She is much, much older than she was in the last game, like possibly on the scale of decades. And she does a lot of weird Witcher shit in the trailer that people who played those games is confused by because she's literally not a witcher. She's not the mutant. She's just a magic lady. At which point the dev said, yeah, in between the last one and this one, she did all that witcher mutant shit. She did the thing that turns you into that.
Starting point is 01:08:01 Yeah. Which sucks. And I assume it's going to be a big part of the story as to why you would do that, because it kills most people and it's horrifically damaging to your body and it's very dramatic. The process is something that creates a problem with the narrative. Well, most people die during the process.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Just straight up, and it's very painful. But they did set it up in the in Witcher 3 because There is a character that you do the witcher process on to to uncurse them So all they have to do because like a serious a character would be tough to include in her end of Witcher 3 state Because she can time travel go to parallel universes like Night City End of Witcher 3 state because she can time travel go to parallel universes like Night City Teleport yeah, I asked I asked I was like oh does she hate portals too and everyone said she is one. She's the portal queen okay? So is that a she's one of those no
Starting point is 01:09:01 Anything like anything like a Franklin Richards Oh shit, okay, okay, okay, and so you can't have that as your playable Witcher character. So she's gonna have to get nerfed somehow. She'll get cursed and then they'll turn her into a Witcher and so the the level up system will probably be Getting her old powers back kind of thing. Trip over a root and drop her Varia suit. Yeah. Okay. Yes, very interested in that I would like to see CD Projekt red
Starting point is 01:09:25 Release a game that is not wildly fucked up on day one This would be their fifth attempt Failed four times. They've got the money. They've got the momentum. They've got it all on their side, but got it all on their side but um huh I don't know man as somebody who didn't play any of those games and definitely didn't play them on release it is impossible to overstate how fucked up every Witcher game was when it came out I remember I remember I remember cyberpunk was the most fucked up but man it was close. Like the state of those games on launch dominated the news when it was happening, yes.
Starting point is 01:10:14 Hey, Gwent though, right? I think. So also you can hear Geralt at the end. And Doug Hockle is doing an even older, more tired sounding Geralt. So I have a feeling that he will be a Gwent boss. Cool. He should be the boss of Gwent. He should be the final boss of the Gwent tournament. Okay.
Starting point is 01:10:41 Meanwhile, Naughty Dog announced Intergalactic, heretic prophet how many brands can you spot in five? I was like Underwhelmed by that shit. So well, okay the weird the thing is I don't know What they want you to feel when you see that many brands like like Adidas comes up on the fucking Okay, no, no Adidas is like like if you see up on the fucking okay no no adidas is like like if you see that on like the clothing you're like oh you're establishing something with like that type of shoe support right but then yeah and like as it goes and goes you're like is this the price is right like what is
Starting point is 01:11:19 going on here and then I was wondering I like, is Mass Effect just going all fucking McDonald's, like full in, you know? I don't know. And it turns out, no. I don't know how I feel about that game. And it's being headed by Neil Druckmann. And there's a quote going around that has made me much less excited about the game,
Starting point is 01:11:44 because Neil says, we're trying something really ambitious for video games because it's going to be about a religion that's false. And I'm like, that sounds like you have never played a video game in your entire fucking life. Have you watched an anime? That have you played a wildly insane RPG? Any of them pick one all of them literally every single RPG. Wow. Okay. That. Oh boy. Wow. Like that's most games in general. Come on, that's fucking... Like...
Starting point is 01:12:25 That's most games in general, honestly. That's like... Local biased religion hater, checkmate atheist man over here on this podcast, and I am shocked and guffawed at that statement. That's wild, man. Oh my god. Okay. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 01:12:44 All right well What I was gonna say was just that I think the the whole flavor of like hey, let's take retro and different styles that are clashing with space in a Guardians of the Galaxy vibe kind of thing like that's like Cassette Futurism, that kind of thing. Exactly. You see that and you see... Yeah, it feels like it's almost like a Star-Lord energy coming off of everything going on there. That's all cool. That's fine and fun and I'm super down to see where that goes.
Starting point is 01:13:20 Like Seymour Game? I think the character design is incomplete. I think she's missing some kind of cool. I think she needs a thing affectation um scarf scarf Visor just something throw something on that You know what that character fits it right into that's right Concord well the problem yes, I was thinking the shaved head soldier man era of video games right when I see that and ultimately I'm like Jack it's there just just just give her a little something
Starting point is 01:13:56 she's kind of she's kind of incomplete you know yeah um but uh yeah that's that's what Naughty Dog is working on. It's this thing where like, okay, the Witcher 4 trailer is like a CG trailer, right? And the Intergalactic trailer is also a CG trailer. But the difference is, is like, I know exactly what the fuck Witcher 4 is going to be because I played Witcher 1, 2, and 3. When you see Intergalactic, I'm I'm like well It's a tone trailer But I don't know fucking shit about what the fuck the game is gonna be because you didn't really show anything
Starting point is 01:14:28 But you could imagine it's gonna be last of us in space, you know Yeah That's basically what space that's what I'm expecting Space of us Yeah, anyway, so fucking everyone spit take all over your shit The word Elden Ring pops up again, and I'm like I was so I like in my gut. I felt fear I'm not gonna lie
Starting point is 01:14:56 I felt a deep deep fear for the idea that I'd have to fucking boot this up again This soon I saw the trailer and I saw have to fucking boot this up again this soon. I saw the trailer and I saw the shot of the ground. I'm like, that is a From Software game. And then they cut to the fog rolling in and the figures in the distance. And I thought it was going to be Demon's Souls 2. Because it looks like the fucking image that's on top of me right now on the video. Right. Right. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:25 No, like we were watching and like we're just like, okay, what is some fantasy something? And it's like looking at the assets. You're like, okay. Yeah. Assets do have a feeling to them. And like, I think Min was the first one to go like, is this from, so this reminds me of from soft. And then it's like, because it it is right and then you saw grace and that's when all the confusion started to coalesce, okay, so before we get into what it actually is Do you agree that? another full giant expansion Within this time frame would have been star really worried. I started okay. Yes. Thank you. I'm like I was like
Starting point is 01:16:03 Dude like like a month ago. I don't know what it was, but when we were talking when you had beaten her tree Yeah, I was like I don't think I'm ever gonna play Elden Ring ever again. Do you remember me? Yes, I do I do because because I'd spent so much time across the main game expansion And I saw this and my stomach just like drop like no More I just you know and I'm like fuck these and say like people that dropped like no, I don't want more. I just, you know, and I'm like, fuck these insane, like people that are like, no more forever, forever, forever. Like no, no man. God damn it.
Starting point is 01:16:32 It's been months. It's been months. Holy shit. And so we see a bunch of like crazy new abilities and you're like, oh yeah. And I was like, this is the- Well the first thing is that you see characters sprinting like they're dashing in Sekiro.
Starting point is 01:16:48 We're like, what the? Flying up walls and hopping them and shit. And then arm birds, you know? And- Yeah, the bird that flies like a hundred feet in the air if we're coming down. And so what I thought was I was like, okay, this is a robust PVP expansion, Yeah, right then it started to get really strange because I'm I was watching it my is that the nameless king?
Starting point is 01:17:13 I didn't I didn't even catch it Where they take the rig and attach it to a new character Like it was clearly the model ripped out of the old game and put into this game and he's throwing lightning bolts and shit Wait, what the fuck is this? I didn't catch it when it happened I was looking at it and I saw the dragon and I saw the fucking up top and it just and it went by and I was and then it was like wait what um, and now you're like, okay, so Everyone who's been doing the like it's all connected theory gets to just fucking gets their day in the spotlight. They get rock hard at the idea of like, we can connect all these
Starting point is 01:17:53 worlds now. There's a portal in the land of reeds that leads to fucking light town. And and and the door, right? There's a door that's unopened that now we know where it leads and thank fucking God After the trailer you go and read the IGN interview about what night rain is Elden ring night rain and it is not a Prop like a regular from software game. It is a completely different game that is made in the Elden Ring world and one of the
Starting point is 01:18:33 battle directors wanted to basically make a PvE spin-off. Yeah, so the logic behind it was the battle director going, yo, I've been watching a lot of Elden Ring randomized speedruns and that seems really cool. Sure, yep. Also, he also said he's a fan of team co-op online games, right? So stuff like Helldivers, Pick It Up Now, any of these games where you're in a group of people and you're doing a run,
Starting point is 01:19:09 like obviously going back to the Left 4 Dead and everything, there's been a proper established genre here. So them being like, yeah, what if we could do this in an Elden Ring kind of from soft setting? And the thought here where it's like, and you're picking one of a set number of characters that you expand on. That have specific abilities.
Starting point is 01:19:32 And the whole thing goes, oh, okay, okay, it's sane. It's sane. It's not importing your full custom character and it's not the full, yeah, it's like literally its own thing. Yeah, no, it's risk of rain or enter the Gungeon. It's a rogue light. Some there's the full, yeah, it's like literally its own thing. Yeah, no, it's risk of rain or enter the Gungeon. It's a roguelite. Um, some, there's, and then yeah, the interview goes on to elaborate.
Starting point is 01:19:50 So there's gonna be a three-day system across the three days as you're traveling with either one yourself or three. No two. Two. Very peculiar in its balance. But yes, one or three. And you're going to see you're going to have invasions, you might get like the the market, the fellowman jumping into the map is going to be randomly generated and the gear you find is going to be randomly placed. Chalice Dungeon concept, you know, and do more with that. Each day is also going to have a particular end boss. You pick like a Dr. Wily kind of setup, and then there's going to be a final final unlock after you level up enough and expand and do more. Very cool and interesting concept of like picking a set character and building on top of that
Starting point is 01:20:39 in the Elden Ring world, you know? I will play Enter the Gungeon Elden Ring Edition. I will. And randomly walking into rooms that have a chance of loading up a fucking blood-starved beast or, you know, well, okay, not a Sony, but a Bandai at the very least, right? They... They... Them showing off that they're willing to pull in just direct rips from other games makes that game super exciting. But it's also what the fan community has been doing on PC for years anyway. Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:21:14 And they were very straightforward. We saw that shit and we thought it was cool, so we wanted to do it ourselves. What if we did it officially though? And it can't be a proper release on its own. It can't be a proper part of the main game. So let's just make its own world where you can do whatever you want. It's another lands between. I don't know if you saw, but like you were saying, like, they're all connected. Those people are empowered. That discussion is now over because the From Software Twitter account tweeted out an announcement alongside
Starting point is 01:21:49 Elden Ring Night Reign where it said, the night lord's power is such that even ancient foes from a world long ago where there once burned a great fire have shown up and it's like okay they have just outright stated that Dark Souls led to Elden Ring. Long ago in another world? Yeah like long ago ancient foes were like the fire once burned bright or something like that Okay, you could burn it up But so it's like if if a long time ago in a galaxy far far away Star Wars exists, but over here Indiana Jones also exists. Yeah, fuck it. Are these in the same is that totally?
Starting point is 01:22:40 Yes, Star Wars and Indiana Jones same Same you know matter no matter how far apart they are universally if they're on the other side of a fucking tesseract It's still connected It's two dots on the same fucking yeah, okay, all right sure whatever so yes, anyone can get pulled in from anywhere as long as they They they belong to the folder that says Bamco and not the folder that says Sony. Well, this is a really fun thing because one of the things that modders found out with
Starting point is 01:23:12 Elden Ring and Dark Souls 3 is that all of these games are running off the same guts. They're all essentially the same game and so you can totally drag and drop shit over and it mostly works. So now it's time for them to drag their drop shit over and it mostly works. So now it's time for them to drag and drop their own shit over. Yeah, you know what? Yes, there's a floating gallery in space and every painting is a different franchise you jump into. There is no reason that we can't fight an armored corps
Starting point is 01:23:41 in this. There's like, that the final boss is like White Glint. And of course the the Moonlight Greatsword existing is cause enough for anyone lore sniffing to hold it up and go. But look it's there. And what are you supposed to say? It's not it is there Yeah, that's cool. That's cool Elden Ring night rain at the very beginning of the show felt like a threat of like this is the
Starting point is 01:24:12 Thing they're showing off the first 15 fucking minutes. It was a threat. It was That was a fucking gun pointed at you Thank God. What else do they got? It's a spinoff pointed at you. Thank God. What else do they got? It's a spinoff. It's a sane spinoff, and it has nothing to do with Miyazaki,
Starting point is 01:24:29 and it has nothing to do with Grimm. They also specified as well. Yeah, they're like, yeah, yeah, we didn't talk to them about this. We just did it, whatever. Also, they didn't, they had an explorative open world version of it, but then they streamlined it to be like,
Starting point is 01:24:44 nah, bunch of hallways That you move through to get to the end. Well. No, it's not it's not two hallways. It's um, it's limb grave Like that's that's the map, but the limb grave G limb grave geography Changes and there's these birds that get you back on track whenever yeah So there's like go to the next important location like theography, like the lake and the hills and shit won't change, but all the building locations will change. All the cave locations. But the idea of just getting or pulling this bird out and it flies you to like the track
Starting point is 01:25:20 that you're supposed to be on, it, Elden Ring Arcade, right? Like I feel like the Elden Ring arcade game is what this looks super fun Yeah, and I was like thank God I can play it solo because I don't want to play that game with two other people It's just I just don't and when asked about spirit ashes They said like one character will be able to use spirit ashes as a part of their kit So it's balanced around the idea. Yeah Okay Fuck this year, right? Think that's 25
Starting point is 01:25:58 Next year. Yeah. Oh, well, I mean it's December whatever right now Fuck slaying the Colossus get in that shit pilot the Colossus project robot I mean I'm Very I'm very happy that that does that that that's you can look at a texture of fabric on a character and Go oh, yeah instantly eco shadow the Colossus You know last Guardian you can see it
Starting point is 01:26:31 And the other thing is that one of the things that you like to talk about is that like the way fumito Fumito Ueda makes games is that it always starts with like a single picture a single image Yes, and this time we got to see that image And it's a boy climbing up a robot But this time you get into the fucking robot Also, it looked so much like malice from Shadow of the Colossus Yes, so the thing is I'm like I wish that Last Guardian wasn't the kind of like
Starting point is 01:27:05 combo breaker on the streak. And in Shadow, controlling Dormin was not the smoothest. It wasn't exactly the best part. However, hopefully lessons were learned and Team Ico can do some cool shit. I'm glad that they are still working on stuff and this is still a thing. Obviously piloting the robot is very exciting for me. In this case, you just get in its head and it takes off. It's like, okay, all right, let's see where you're going here.
Starting point is 01:27:41 I guess we're going to jam this robot head into other robots Also from that pilot a robot with no hud or UI or like tiny things it's gonna be all analog sigils and Physically dragging blocks around you know Very cool. I'm excited Very cool. I'm excited. We saw a bunch of other stuff and then yes, the orchestra reveals an Okami sequel after 18 years. And would you believe that that's not the most interesting thing about the Okami sequel? It's Capcom working in conjunction with studio Clovers.
Starting point is 01:28:25 Clovers. Clovers, but who could work there? Could it be staffed entirely by a huge exodus of Platinum Games staff? So Clovers, plural studio, is now Hideki Kamiya's new venture. And it's funny, cause like, this is basically Seeds 2, right? Yeah. Because after Team Beautiful became Clover and then Clover was their own little department within Capcom and then they kind of separated and then they left and went to do their own thing. They started up Seeds and they had a logo for
Starting point is 01:29:02 it and then that never really went anywhere. And so I think they were able to then get, as they were able to secure outside investing, and then Inaba joined, and then Platinum Games was the big name. That was the announcement, right? And Seeds was- And it never loses its luster. Well, so with this announcement comes some interviews where Kamiya explains that yes, he's working from his own studio with Capcom on a sequel to Okami. So technically Okami 3, right? Because Okami Den does exist, but technically Okami 4, if not 5.
Starting point is 01:29:38 5 and 6. Because Okami 1- Yeah, 5, 6, and 7. Yeah, that's it. Okami 1, 10 out of 10. Okami 2, ehhh. 11 out of 10. Okami 3 though, ehhh. 7, you know. Yeah so then Okami 4, which handheld, was out there and I bought it but I never played it. I also never played it. but um here comes Okami 5 the The idea that he's doing that is pretty cool cuz you're like, okay. Well, obviously that means that if Okami is unlocked so is beautiful Joe and
Starting point is 01:30:15 Potential for anything beautiful Joe needs saving Right. It really beautiful Joe went way off the rails more. Okami was like long-winded, but ultimately still a pretty cool memory That got re-released enough times because of you know, like people loved it Beautiful Joe had some fucking stinkers and boy does it suck to be like Yeah, the good the first one and then there was two and then there was red hot rumble and then there was an anime That was Yeah one and then there was two and then there was Red Hot Rumble and then there was an anime that was in yeah um so and and like Capcom says hey we're focusing on reviving dormant ips which means that due to the creation of clovers and okami 2 the likelihood of godhand getting anything ever again has gone from absolute zero to maybe more than zero.
Starting point is 01:31:09 Did everyone start saying Godhand because you brought it up on stream? Did you mention it? No. Okay. No, people love Godhand. The children yearn for Godhand. Okay. Because that's a very understandable hope and we would all love that.
Starting point is 01:31:23 However, Godhand is not Kamiya. And to me I'm like, that's Shinji Mikami. We know this. But whatever happened. So don't just be like, no, just do it anyway. I'm like, no, no. The reason why Okami's happening is because they waited for the guy who did that who's now there. So it doesn't mean all old things. It's the things that he worked on. But Wooly, remember, according to Tim Rogers, according to Shinji Mikami, in God Hand, there was that kid that tuned that punch really well. Yes. That kid was such a good kid. Okay. And we don't know where that good kid works now.
Starting point is 01:32:05 Yeah. And there's also Devil May Cry 1, right? Yeah. No, I think the possibility of them going back to do anything here is like, yeah, it shows that it can happen. But in this case, we've also got a track record of the last couple of years of Kamiya talking about how he has ideas For the next Okami and ideas for beautiful Joe and how he would love to work on those things again Like he's let that out Years ago and we knew that right so I think if Mikami had any desire to work on this again and
Starting point is 01:32:42 was willing to partner up from his own studio to do something, then that could be an exciting possibility. But I also think as well that like, Okami was much larger and well, OK, its initial failure of a release was then given like some retribution in re-releasing it.
Starting point is 01:33:10 It got cult status and it was re-released three times. You know, so that initial fucking however many, like 98,000 copies sold or whatever, it was really bad. Over time the perception has changed about that. Whereas God Hand is still this one and done fucking crazy ass thing that got dropped on I think PS3 digital store and that was it. It's insane. I think that what's the craziest takeaway from Kamiya's new thing in Okami is actually what it says about Platinum
Starting point is 01:33:46 because he actually just straight-up says this is why I quit Platinum. Yeah, he was being very nice about it initially but like when the first interviews were coming out but he went into it in full detail here. But now that he has his non-compete clauses over and he has the team set up and he's working with Capcom. He's like, yeah, you know, I wanted me to jam gas shit into my Ultraman tribute game and I didn't fucking want to. So what we're learning is essentially the most predictable, unfortunate. You could have guessed this, right? Platinum was trying to be Guns for Hire to fund the studio for a long time and that worked
Starting point is 01:34:29 until it didn't and obviously with everything, with the projects that never came to be, you know, with fucking, whatchamacallit, scale bound. Scale bound. And things that they were hired to work on not really panning out, they were in dire straits. So the idea that they're like, okay, we need to switch this up and start owning our own shit, well, Wonderful 101 is like the only thing that they have. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:58 Kamiya in that interview says, I would be more than happy to work with Platinum again on their wholly owned IPs. And it's like, that's kind of passive aggressive as shit It's literally just wonderful 101, you know and And yeah, so the idea of like like them being able to come in and deliver quality action games for other IPs It's like that's been established But when that doesn't make a ton of money, when it doesn't pan out, the days of them coming in for a revengeant-style saving of a dying project didn't really repeat themselves.
Starting point is 01:35:31 And it sucks because you're like, these are the people that make the best action, but it was not making money. And it hasn't been for a long time now. And so we remember when we heard the announcement where they were like, we're going to focus on building our own IPs up, and we don don't wanna have to rely on being guns for hire, we wanna be able to like survive on our own with our own name. And so project Gigi, you know,
Starting point is 01:35:53 and the other project that was started at the time, we've been hearing about for a while, and Gigi was gonna be the, yeah, kind of like the superhero game that Cameo was working on. Inaba basically was saying that like the financials were getting worse over time and they needed to now implement games as a service and live service into most of what they were working on and a lot of the projects that were being developed were going full live service and he fought back against Project GG becoming a live service game and they kind of, for months they went back and forth but
Starting point is 01:36:35 couldn't come to an agreement where they wanted to just include some live service features even if the full game wouldn't be because Inaba looked at it as this is the only way to make money with anything we release from here on out. And it seems like that was enough. I would rather quit, said Kamiya, and then he walked out the door. That was enough to break the camel's back. He left. And what we're also learning is that he was not the only one.
Starting point is 01:37:00 No, a bunch of people left. A bunch of big people left. Kenji Saito from Metal Gear Rising, Atakehisa Taura from Astral Chain, Masaki Yama-Anaka from Anarchy Reigns, Abebe Tinari from Bayonetta Origin are also... They changed their profile names from Platinum PG to not PG anymore and have unlisted their employment there. So it seems as if they've walked and they're potentially going to be joining Clovers. It appears that Clovers is being made out of primarily dissatisfied platinum employees. And when you think about the pedigree that is a studio making the best fucking action, not
Starting point is 01:37:47 wanting to draw... People making the games they made, drawing the line and not making them gas games, completely understandable, right? The phrasing that Kamiya used in particular was that like, I don't want to put my name on something that I can't defend Afterwards right right like you have to be proud of what you release and The idea of something that would come out and annoy everybody because you had to buy whatever fucking coins or subscribe to whatever service And then it all the ugly things Would feel fucking terrible you know
Starting point is 01:38:22 So yeah, that's a very understandable decision. It is really interesting how we've been watching this play out over decades, where you have this huge group of developers that can make bangers, like Kamiya and Mikami and these people, if they wanted to, they could make something that sold a billion shizzillion copies,
Starting point is 01:38:40 like it's in their pedigree, right? But they're like, I don't give a fuck about how many it sells, just want to make the best goddamn games ever and watching them fucking ping-pong multiple times to various companies going I want to make games that sell bad not exactly just over and over and over again and just no you should make a game that sells good. I'll quit. I want one fucking thing and I'm gonna get it. I quit last time over them telling me to make games that sold, made money, and I'll quit again. Here's the thing, and this is
Starting point is 01:39:17 the unfun harsh realistic, you know, thing to the lesson here. I'm not envious of the fact that inaba is in a situation where they're like, yeah We tried it failed were fucking burning out, right? The idea that they're like it's not worth like quality is not it. That's not all there's more to it and You know something like an astral chain can come and then it can go, but it certainly isn't enough to keep the lights on over years and years and years. You have to be a very active studio to be on your own like that. I don't envy that decision and to then look at it
Starting point is 01:39:55 and look at investors and kind of go, well, the only thing that's really satisfying these days is to lean into the trend that seems to be like, if you say that word or if you say AI you save everything. Yeah and all of their big hits are games for other people. Nier Automata and Astro Chain and stuff like that. That's not theirs.
Starting point is 01:40:15 Yeah. Even Panetta isn't theirs for fuck's sake. And obviously the option to get bought out at some point was not exercised, right? No, who would even want them? They don't have anything! So, well, I just, in terms of like the people that can come in and do Aneer or that can come in and do A Rising, if you just happen to want to be a studio that puts out a bunch of those games for a while, but it's not, but anyway, the checks and balances are not adding up. And that's what sucks here, is just the idea that like,
Starting point is 01:40:46 we can be happy that like, there are a group of people that can make the fucking coolest shit. And we are excited about that, but if they can't make the ends meet at the end of the day, and they have to walk away over these types of decisions that are very understandable, platinum's obviously not gonna be in a great state after this, right? I'm sure that-
Starting point is 01:41:09 Oh, I don't think they have long for this world. I mean, I think that there's probably people there that might have... Who knows? Who knows, right? This is a desperate gamble to run the gas game. And yeah, I think it sounds like it's a final one if they don't want to, you know, if they're not going to be busy with a bunch of teams working on IPs for other people and coming in to do like, oh, we always have a near game in the background. Oh yeah, we've always got a Cora or a Transformers.
Starting point is 01:41:42 Yeah, they're not making Xenoblade out here, man. That's the dream for them, is like, that Nintendo would go, hey, you wanna make four Astral Chain games in a row? But that just didn't happen. It feels bad that there's no financial security there. And here's the other bit too, and this is like, this is just a nature of time moving, time moves on, right? The day of a new king draws near. The fact that a lot of other action games now are just platinum aping and are
Starting point is 01:42:15 doing good. They're doing great. They're doing great at being like, Hey, yeah, our character should have a launcher and then jump up and do an air combo. That would be really fun, actually. Like, guys, God of War, like, caught up to you. Action games have taken notes, and now, even in the lightest, most simple sense, even in your brief moments of Zenless Zone Zero, you know, you can have these little tight action sequences go off. You can have people that are like, oh yeah, dodging and parrying and high octane action. It's become a thing that you don't just get from Platinum anymore. Others have unrightfully copied notes and are implementing it as well. So they don't have to be the only ones that are delivering that quality, you know?
Starting point is 01:43:09 FF16 is an entire fucking experience in shifting one of the premier genres of video games into what Platinum has established. So one of the things... Successfully. There's a thread about Virtua Fighter where people were saying, like, hey, what did Pat sacrifice to get all this? And somebody pointed out, hey, do you remember when Pat was talking about Hi-Fi Rush and said, quote, do we even need platinum anymore in reference to how good Hi-Fi Rush was?
Starting point is 01:43:42 Yeah. I think so. I don't I don't agree with that in the sense that these folks that were seeing leaving these people that are moving. Them working on action games is going to make they're going to make cool shit. I mean Bayonetta origins and obviously something else but I mean, Bayonetta Origins is obviously something else, but I do have high expectations of like the fucking, you know, the final word of action, so to speak. But it is true, and it is clear that like the lessons learned from Devil May Cry and
Starting point is 01:44:20 Bayonetta have reached out to again, Final Fantasy and mobile action games. And anytime you need your character to do a cool fucking judgment cut slash thing, you're like, oh yeah, hey, everyone sees the shortcut and gets what that is. Like, okay, yeah, cool. You like that. The kinds of things and the way your character should move and the types of attacks that are kind of mandatory Then if spread out they've been disseminated and if they weren't directly
Starting point is 01:44:50 Influenced by you know DMC or Bayo then they're influenced by near so you get your stellar blade, you know Wukong like all these things are just like taking after these established... Capcom and Platinum Action Direction has seeped into the groundwater. It's there now. It needs to be more. But I don't think to me, at least, that means it's like, oh, we don't need that anymore slash they can be replaced, because I still think we're looking at people that are successfully emulating something very cool and I and I and I I feel like
Starting point is 01:45:29 that's different from the ones who are innovating it yeah you know I don't think Platinum's been innovating that shit not for a long time not for a long time but but specifically we talk about Platinum as almost a shorthand for a bunch of fucking six specific individuals that can make some cool shit and If we have that list of names, I will always be interested in what they can well, you know, that's fucking go clovers Let's see what's going on. Can we get the poison chihuahua from God hand in the new Okami game, please. I Love that fucking thing. I think Godhand's Godhand. I think I think anything old Capcom has a chance, but you got to get the people the right people on it. You know, I also don't imagine him. Kimia
Starting point is 01:46:15 is going to be like, yeah, I want to work on someone else's baby. You know, like he feels like the kind of person who's done it before at the beginning of his career and now he's like I want to force you to play schmups. So now he's now that he's in his I'm going to force you to play schmups and you can't tell me shit phase I'm going to put glasses on everybody phase. Watch me drive off in the Lambo unemployed phase. You know he clearly is like I'm doing what I want and what I want is my own babies and what I care about is Joe riding on the back of Amaterasu in the intro to Marvel 3. So we will see, but that's a pretty exciting bit. All right. Beyond that, uh, so much. There was a whole lot. There's a whole lot and, uh, not much to it. It was,
Starting point is 01:47:10 I felt like that outer worlds to trailer was kind of like almost is being a little like almost acknowledging they're like, it's more and it's bigger and who cares? Was kind of the tone. It was, it was very, it was like, ironically meta. It was this very weird thing where Obsidian is admitting that the second game that they make is always like by far the better one. Like that's that's the guy better than pillars one. And yeah that trailer that logo reveal it was an O.R. instead of an I and people kind of
Starting point is 01:47:47 went damn. Mid part two. Here's hoping it's better. I'm hearing good things about Avowed. Cool. Okay. We'll see. Hey, Slay the Spire with 3D and animations and stuff looking pretty looks cool.
Starting point is 01:48:03 I'm down with more Slay the Spire. That was That was really that was dope people like that game. I like it I'm not good at it, but I like it. Yes. I am also down for the the so one shoutouts to Yosef Addis, of course fuck the Oscars He's great. The new game is Split Fiction from Haze Light. Of course, Kings of Local Co-op continue. And two girls going on an adventure, hanging out, and maybe this time we won't have to
Starting point is 01:48:35 broach the topic of divorce or so. Maybe, maybe not. However, I don't know. The timeline doesn't add up because when they cut to his kids, they're way too young. But the idea that they have twins and that like, that's part of why they want to make come on. Isn't that the best?
Starting point is 01:48:55 It's like Crabble, right? Brothers obviously was made well before that. And so that was his, his life experience with his brother. Yes. Fattest, fattest, right? made well before that. And so that was his his life experience with his brother. Yes, Fattest Fattest, right? Shout outs to the Mario naming conventions of the two of them. But them together, yeah, they have they have that connection. But then everything else, I guess afterwards, you know, going from a way out into it takes two and such, you're like, Oh, is this because they had twin kids and they want
Starting point is 01:49:26 them to be able to play together because no one else is fucking making local co-op anymore? I gotta say, It Takes Two was obviously really great, but me and Paige, when we streamed it, had like a really like bored reaction to it. Because we're a married couple and we're playing it takes two, a game about a formerly married couple's divorce. And we ran into this strange issue where like me and Paige are too used to being like to working together antagonistically. Okay. Like huge portions of the way the game is supposed to make you feel just didn't hit at all oh that is like we'll co-op and fight our asses off on like anything up here and so the games like huh you guys really you really you feel intense like
Starting point is 01:50:14 no no that's hilarious because me and Reggie are getting divorced like we played through that like you fucking it. I absolutely felt it weak Now you need to get into an argument about how to navigate a blood-borne level with your wife now that okay, okay? Okay, also the shitty mustache book being a creep So awful it was really bad. I thought he was great, but I hated his fucking ass so much But that's nice to see That that's coming out
Starting point is 01:50:51 Hey floating ghosts. What are they doing getting absorbed into? the Onimusha Onimusha is back So I gotta say Capcom really like punked my ass with Onimusha because Onimusha had been I've been hearing about Onimusha for a really, really long time, but never a specific just someone somewhere saw something that looked like Onimusha and then they put out Kenutsugami. Yes is is like
Starting point is 01:51:22 Asian inspired with demons and you also suck in souls in your fucking arm and shit that could have been it That's what people fucking thought was on a musha Nope, they're also making on a musha On a musha way of the sword So for 2026 full reboot, right You know what's great about Onimusha? This is a game that formerly the last game was really bad. Dawn of Dreams?
Starting point is 01:51:58 I'm not saying that Onimusha 4 Dawn of Dreams was really bad because Yoshinori Ono worked on it. I'm just saying That it was and he did it's a sequel To Dawn of Dreams then get the fuck out of here yo, I Mean listen, I have a positive association with dot of dreams But that's just because I really like Soki in Tatsunoko versus Capcom. Yeah, that's a weird That's a weird place to go with that He's an awesome character as a guest in that game
Starting point is 01:52:36 And you know what you know who else is awesome is a crossover Phoenix Wright and Monster Hunter. I like those characters They're great. They're great. They're super cool. So I have nothing but love for Soki. But yeah, no, this is not Samanowske, right? Will this win a SIGGRAPH award again for its opening cinematic. Oh my God. Are we in that world anymore? I don't know. I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:53:10 I don't, I would love to. They went three for three, man. That was crazy. But like that, that was an era where it was like, okay, Square putting out their FMVs, fucking Blizzard putting out their FMVs. Um, Onimusha intro was right up there. Onimusha came in and like, no, we want it. We mocap six guys.
Starting point is 01:53:29 And then for the second one, we mocapped a horse. And then for the third one, like, check, take a look at this small film we produced for you. And I mean, like, literally, like, those were the three that were just crushing it. And like, I remember that the Raven in the intro to Warcraft 3 was used to advertise 3D Studio Max. Like, you know, they were on the cutting edge. I don't know that anyone's going to be in that space anymore because everyone can do that now. But the fact that you can go back
Starting point is 01:54:01 in that Onimusha 3 intro still stands up is hype as hell. That thing's crazy, man. It's fucking bananas. Also, I think between this and then the anime where they're kind of like, it's the guy, it's Samanosuke, but it's not the actor, is where you can kind of see like, okay, that was a mistake getting real people and real faces that have legal... That was a massive fucking mistake. That was a massive mistake. Right. That was a huge problem. Yeah. Jean Reno, that's fun and all, but then legally we have to jump through hoops every time we
Starting point is 01:54:30 want to release something. Massive, massive stupid problem. We will never be doing this again. We won't be doing this. We've made a mistake. And hey, look, it seems like fucking judgment learned the lesson a little too late, you know, with Johnny's and all that bit Yeah, another so we'll get there. We'll get there. Should we just get there right now?
Starting point is 01:54:53 Go for it with another century Because RGG showed off another century, which is their new RGG game that takes place in project century Taisho era Japan, Imperial Japan. Another century some mecha shit. And it's like, hey, you know what's fucking dead judgment? That shit's fucking so dead, bro. Get out of my face with that judgment shit. Let's try again with another sister franchise then.
Starting point is 01:55:23 But there needs to be a franchise that is the action one at all times, right? Yeah. It's very interesting that another century, or sorry, Project Century, my mistake, features like huge amounts of violent murder in its action combat? Hmm. I think they've established enough with, I guess, the world of what is now Ichiban's setting going off in its own direction that they can just create a whole brand new thing now, and this will be like
Starting point is 01:56:05 two offerings per every other year sucked Kiryu and Majima into his goofball nightmare dimension now wasn't there so what was the time period of the other spin-off games they did with like, in the past? Well, do you mean like Black Panther? RGG games set like in the past. Okay, so in the past it was like the fucking warring states era. Okay. Like fucking, I don't know, 16, 17.
Starting point is 01:56:41 I'm not super familiar with that, what years those were. But like, Yakuza games take place in current year of release. Like, they always take place either the year you're in or six months from now. Okay. Then there was the 80s. And then Kenzan was 1600 and Isshin was 1800. Okay.
Starting point is 01:57:05 So old timey. Taisho era, which is 1915 is definitely new. Okay. Did we get a date on this release? No. Okay. But it'll be out in two weeks. Wait, so, and then when's Pirate pirate magma coming like what in February?
Starting point is 01:57:28 It would not be out of it would not be impossible for another century to come out this year project century Project said projects fuck you keep saying another century and I'm like, are you wanting to say I'm like Are you talking about Gundam and or from soft? I'm like mecha series. Okay. All right All right, hold on it sorry quick break BRB. Oh good. I gotta pee one second Emergency guests Emergency guests Suzy
Starting point is 01:58:05 Hello, hi having me on Emergency guest! Emergency guest! Emergency guest! Suzie! Hello. Hi. Thanks for having me on Two Hours and 14 Minutes In. Yes. Thank you for joining us today, Suzie Spherehunter. What do you want to talk about? Suzie has kicked open the door and forced her way in and has opinions. Yes. What's going on? Yes. I'm really excited about the new Onimusha video game because there hasn't been a new
Starting point is 01:58:29 game since 2006 and the last one was indeed not very good. Uh, if you guys want a quick catch up, Onimusha 1 comes out. It's fantastic. Everybody loves it. Um, Capcom's like, oh, we made our own Kurosawa like horror movie, throne of blood kind of tribute game. What do we do next? Onimusha 2 comes out. It's quite possibly one of the greatest adventure games ever made with like 17,000 branching paths that are all fully voice acted. And it's insane. It didn't sell
Starting point is 01:59:03 as well, know but whatever but they keep that going they keep the the Hollywood the film cinematic why that didn't sell so good Suzie? Because that actor was dead. Yeah which by the way that's the reason we're never gonna play that game ever again on a brand new console because his estate will not release the rights to his face, which really sucks. Okay, it's not a salty Johnny's style judgment situation. No, no, they hired a dead actor to play that character. Yeah, which is a little strange. And by the way, I have some kind of observation that might align with something like that for the new game, but I think I'm wrong, but I'm gonna put it out there anyway. Anyway, Onimusha 3 comes out. I don't think it sold very well. I like it or whatever. It's got Jean Reno in it.
Starting point is 01:59:52 I'm sure you guys like Jean Reno because you're both Frenchies. Yeah, Frenchin' it up. Historically a very funny statement from Inafune. he was like, Oh, Onimusha 2 didn't sell well because we didn't have a Western actor in it. Oh, Onimusha 3 didn't sell well because there were too many actors in it. And then Dawn of Dreams comes out. It is a colossal failure. Nobody plays it.
Starting point is 02:00:18 Nobody buys it. And he goes, Onimusha 4, Dawn of Dreams did not sell well because there were too many actors. Or there were too many actors. There weren't enough actors. There weren't enough actors, yes. There weren't enough. No genius Keiji Inafune. Fans of the Onimusha series have come to have feelings about actors and that's the quality
Starting point is 02:00:38 metric for the game. Yes, which there is. Listen, I have made an observation about this new trailer Anyway, the new trailer gets shown. I think it looks fucking amazing. I don't know how you guys feel I'm sorry I'm just taking a second because I woke up today and didn't expect to have a new reason to have feelings about in a funay But here we are Another day another fucking fucking keiji. Like, oh my god.
Starting point is 02:01:07 Yeah, exactly. Well, hey, Soki was cool though, right? Was Soki cool? I felt like Soki was cool. Soki was cool and Tatsunoko. He's pretty cool, yeah. He could do the one, two, three slash eSense system. I'm just not the biggest fan of the camera system in Dawn of Dreams, okay? It's like a weird biggest fan of the camera system in Dawn of Dreams, okay? It's like a weird, like, centered perspective camera and not fixed camera, whatever. So like, Suzy, you and I are like survival horror, like fixed camera diehards, but I really have to
Starting point is 02:01:36 point out, like, it's weird that a better camera, like an objectively better camera played way worse with Onimusha's system. Yeah, which you would think wouldn't be the case because Onimusha like has tank controls as well. And like you don't really think like, oh, I'm gonna knife only Resident Evil. Like that's not generally how you want to play Resident Evil. But they were just like, fuck it. You're gonna sword only Resident Evil and it like works perfectly. I mean, I played the version I played, I played it without the tank controls.
Starting point is 02:02:08 Like I just stick to run in directions. The HD version, yeah, it works perfectly fine. Well, it was going to be a nightmare to action through slow rotation. No, man, you get real good at it. So no, you can say that the running is supposed to be awkward when you're supposed to be afraid and when zombies and let's be, you know what?
Starting point is 02:02:29 Zombies and dinosaurs, right? Scary, they're chasing you and you're too full of fear to get your left and your right fucking foot over each other, so fine. But you're a samurai man slashing with perfect timing to survive, come the fuck on. Okay, one, Onim musha one is a horror game It's a survival horror game. Just happen to be a samurai
Starting point is 02:02:49 Dino crisis to has tank controls, and it is the least scary game you will You that game has a dodge button and it works surprisingly well for oh my god whatever it came out I don't know if you guys watched my Onimusha one retrospective, but I actually complained about that exactly. Like for some reason, when you rotate Samanosuke, he moves like a snail. Like he's so slow to turn. And I rationalized it as like, oh, well, you's wearing a lot of heavy samurai armor, right? But then when you hold R1 to lock onto an enemy, he moves at the speed of light
Starting point is 02:03:31 and can trickster dodge around enemies. And it's like, oh, I guess fuck it. Yeah. By the way, is that dodge button you're talking about in Dino Crisis 2? Yeah. Yes. The super action-y one that I didn't play yet.
Starting point is 02:03:44 You have to. So when you when you do play it you have to actually turn on Dodging and the options menu. It's not on by default because video games 2000 you're also talking to the person I was fucking back stepping in Silent Hill 1 to narrowly avoid the fucking boss spikes on that roof. I played footsies with tank controls. I can do it. I'm telling you, I've done it. Sure, yeah. But my question is, did you use the guard function
Starting point is 02:04:17 in Silent Hill 2? Ever? Did I? I don't remember if I did. I remember or don't. I don't think many people know that you can actually block in Silent Hill 2 and it's fucking weird. I don't remember if I did.
Starting point is 02:04:33 As someone who watched the LP will have to tell me. But I know in 3, I went in with that fucking samurai sword. Yeah. In 3, I went all the way in. That shit was the hype as hell. Did you kill the final boss with the katana? Absolutely. Katana battle the whole way.
Starting point is 02:04:46 Good job. You got the infinite SMG. Yeah, good job. Anyway. Odie-Musha, way of the sword. I was watching the trailer, right? And I was like, oh, you know, Capcom's doing a lot of remakes. Like, you know, they kind
Starting point is 02:05:02 of just put out, I mean, it was five years ago at this point, which is fucking insane. They just put out HD, ORIMUSHA 1. But I was like, you know, that doesn't have to stop them from from the ground up remaking it, you know? We've got like RE4 remake and original RE4 is perfectly fine and right there. So I was watching the trailer and I was like, this guy kind of reminds me of Samunosuke, but he doesn't- it's not Takeshi Karashiro. The gauntlet is like full gold, which is like the level 3 gauntlet at the end of Onimusha 1. But there were, like,
Starting point is 02:05:38 I don't know if you guys noticed, but the real Onimusha heads in the chat would have noticed that the final enemy that he fights in that trailer is actually the first boss in uh... The who? Oh sorry, the Oni Nudders. That's what I meant to say. The Oni Nudders. The final...
Starting point is 02:05:59 The fuck are we doing? The mush heads, yeah. The mush heads. Um... Yeah, the final enemy that he kills in the in the trailer is the first boss of Onimusha 1 so I was kind of like okay I was kind of like oh shit is this a remake I have no clue and I I read the press release and I control fF'd everything. I typed in remake, remaster, reimagining, and nothing came up, so I was kinda like, oh, okay, cool. But I did find out that the game takes place
Starting point is 02:06:33 in Kiyomizu-dera, which is a completely different castle in Tokyo from the game one location, which is Gifu Castle, also known as Inabayama Castle so it's not a remake it might be a reboot some I think some people are saying that it's a sequel I did I see something about dreams did I see something about Musashi I saw so I saw discussing Miyamoto Musashi or something like that and I'm not sure if that was just out of nowhere or yeah, I was kind of thinking that too, because he's kind of got that that look, right? Way of the sword. Yeah, way of the sword.
Starting point is 02:07:14 Does lean in that direction as well. The one thing I'll send you guys a screenshot. How familiar are you two guys with Kurosawa movies? How familiar are you two guys with Kurosawa movies? What have I seen? I think, yeah, Seven Samurai. Gotcha, yeah. And then, Yojimbo and stuff. I don't know, I might be off base here. I'm gonna send you a screenshot.
Starting point is 02:07:41 The main character of this game kind of looks like Toshiro Mifune. That absolutely is Toshiro Mifune. I'm kind of worried honestly because it's like okay it's gonna be great sure but what happens if I want to play this on PlayStation 7 and the Mifune estate. Don't tell them to buy it on Steam so they can't take it away from you. Well first we need so, Capcom reaches out to the Mifune estate and gets his license likeness inputs and never learns a single fucking lesson
Starting point is 02:08:14 is what we find out here. Yeah. That would be really cool. I like that energy. That type of protagonist as well is not, you don't see that often, especially like video games, like the brash, loud kind of fucking, rah rah rah, kind of samurai man.
Starting point is 02:08:30 Yeah, yeah. Mugen. Yeah, for sure. Very cool. I believe the Onimusha anime is like, that main character is like very obviously, supposed to be Toshshiro mifune and like I don't know if it's the same character in this game Musashi's is from the Netflix show. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Got it. So, okay I think it's I think it's pretty exciting
Starting point is 02:08:58 But I I feel like maybe if that is the case like they might they might have trouble in the future but uh I will say also another yeah another dead actor which is kind of kind of strange but also yeah stop doing that I will say I am very excited because uh at the very end of the trailer it seems like he's struggling with becoming a demon which is something I've always wanted out of this franchise. I don't know how you guys have ever felt about that. Like, every Onimusha protagonist is like, oh, this is really cool. I could kill every demon and I'm so cool. Yeah, I'm super strong and there's no downside at all. There's no downside at all.
Starting point is 02:09:35 And I feel like I just hope that they explore that more. Yeah, spend more time exploring that and less time exploring a terrible second playable character. Dear God, I can't speak to the others, but at least in Oni-Ni-Show 1, it was not fun switching at the end. Yeah. Like she could do so, she could do so much less and I like, I love more than one playable character, but she just felt like an incomplete kind of thought. That's because she's the guest character in the second, third, like Sherry or Ada or whoever.
Starting point is 02:10:16 Yes. Because it's a real evil game, you see. Okay, but instead of running from fucking evil men trying to kill you and hiding under tables like you're meant to fight but Not really makes a little less sense for an action game you fight But you could fight but you fight badly and you don't internalize that as like don't fight You know, but you quickly realize after dying quickly. You're like, oh well, I'm I'm bad at this But I have a lot of the same functions just not the complete set, you know
Starting point is 02:10:43 They she can you can dodge into the enemies and like flip over them and then one hit kill them, but it doesn't always happen every time. So it's a little, it's a little busted. It doesn't come out every single time, which kind of sucks. But anyway, I mean, the gameplay in the new game looks really cool. I don't know if you guys paid attention to it, but I don't know. It kind of, it kind of looks a little soulsy, a little souls like, like camera position. I would not be surprised if Capcom wants that.
Starting point is 02:11:12 That would make, that would make a lot of sense. Yeah. I'll be honest. I think, you know, it is cool and it, I feel like, you know, in the culture of video games, it makes sense to, you know, make the game about absorbing souls a souls like game but as you guys know that already exists and it's called neo and i already played that game and i don't want the identity of outi voshna capcom capcom did like yes there is there absolutely is neo with the souls and the and the you know samurai theme But Capcom never got its deep down
Starting point is 02:11:47 Right that never happened. They were trying at this At the same time I played Neo one and Neo two and in Capcom games Typically you would you know go through an area and maybe fight a boss and then get a new weapon Whereas in Neo you kill any default enemy and they vomit a bunch of fucking bullshit all over the floor, making those very different experiences. Also the grave in front of the first enemy you fight is glowing purple and has the coolest shit in the game, but the player ghost is very hard, so you just get detoured into fighting that for half an hour. Nevermind the rewards
Starting point is 02:12:25 of the current mission. And since this game is not made by its Suno, I don't think they're going to have some kind of bizarre, like a multiplayer feature that isn't multiplayer. Asymmetrical. Yeah. I thought that was going to go somewhere, but then it went nowhere. It was so weird. Yeah. How do you guys feel about to change topics ever so slightly? How do you guys feel about the future of Devil May Cry now that- I feel that there is a non-zero chance that Kamiya may direct Devil May
Starting point is 02:12:59 Cry Zero, and that's really funny. I think that would be fantastic. and that's really funny. I think that would be fantastic. I'm happy for anything to exist in that franchise. Be that a zero Sparta, be that a one remake, be that a six or a ladies night. I don't care. That's all cool. And I also think that, you know, if that Netflix anime is actually pretty fucking good, there will be some current renewed vigor to see some more, right?
Starting point is 02:13:32 Although currently, there's some weird shit happening on Spotify, where like, Barry the light got like, Yeah, I saw that. down or something. I think that's somebody making a cover and abusing Spotify. And then the wrong version dropped in. to replace the original. I think so. somebody making a cover and abusing Spotify and then the wrong version dropped in. To replace the original. I think so. But yeah, no, but I do think the, you know, anime coming out is, you know, you can do something with that. That could be, that could be cool.
Starting point is 02:13:56 Yeah. The thing is, is of course, when, you know, when the man leaves, who are you handing that franchise to? Right. you know, when the man leaves, who are you handing that franchise to, right? Is it just, okay, Kamiya, we're going to your Dante? Because he's always, didn't he have a couple things to say about how he thought Dante was a different type of character? Oh, he's a totally different character. Yeah. And so his interpretation on things, like, I don't feel like Kamiya is the type of person
Starting point is 02:14:19 who'd be like, I will, he's like, I've got my idea of what this should be. And I think he'd kind of want to almost like bend it more towards that than keep what we've got going, you know? I'm kind of hoping that he applies his version of Dante to Sparta though, because Sparta is. I bet! Yeah. Sparta is.
Starting point is 02:14:39 Interesting. Because you know, like he, if you really think about it, like I think originally he wanted Dante to be British You know and if spartan if you're playing a sparta game. It's gonna be in the past He's gonna be like you know like what is English? Oh, it's this British shit You know and he'll sound British and also you know Kamiya. He's been directing or not directing but like you know, Kamiya, he's been directing, or not directing, but like, overseeing Bayonetta for like the past couple of years. And Bayonetta is a very like rustic looking kind of game. And, you know, I feel like it would be an easy kind of transition there to apply that
Starting point is 02:15:15 stuff to Sparta. I can, I can imagine a world where he's like, um, uh, I kind of want to work on my own ideas and that's gone in a different direction and I have a lot of that I'd like to focus on that's over here, but I could just as easily see him being like, oh, well, it's kind of like a homecoming You know like it's soon as I'm left and now like, you know I have some ideas and I'm it's an honor to go from that to Bayo and now back to the like I could I could see both kind of directions happening, but either way not for After he's done with his current babies
Starting point is 02:15:45 getting all the attention. Yeah, I can also see like the bringing plenty of people who worked on DMC5 that would be willing to step up as the new director. Absolutely. Absolutely. That is a full team of very talented people besides its Zuno that are still around there. Yeah. All right. Hey, I have some breaking news, by the way. Very talented people besides at sudo that are still around there All right, I have some breaking news by what's going on let's hear it I would like you guys to know that as of right now
Starting point is 02:16:13 Virtua Fighter 5 Revo is more popular than Mortal Kombat 1 on twitch.tv So one down Damn one down. That's an accomplishment How's multiverses doing? By p2 Might be to where's multiverses at multiverses is above the two of them. Okay. Well some Titans cannot be felled just yet There you go. All right, sounds good
Starting point is 02:16:44 felled just yet. There you go. All right. Sounds good. Take it out. The slasher villains could not save Mortal Kombat, I guess. Damn. No block button solidarity. All right. Other stuff going on. Oh shit, alright, other stuff going on. What do we got? The soccer game from, right? You know what, actually pretty cool. Like I don't mind.
Starting point is 02:17:16 It looks really good. Yeah, so Rematch is from the Sifu devs. And it is, it's a soccer game but it's third person controlling your own member of the team and it seems to be styled like Rocket League in that it's like kind of like an indoor soccer thing it's a lot faster bouncing off the walls etc I don't think I've seen anything like that and Rocket League obviously very popular scratches a niche of people wanting to jump into a game that's soccer-like,
Starting point is 02:17:47 but control one member of a team. So that's very smart. There's been a space, of course, for team-based games to be played in large groups of people jumping online to control one member. So yeah, them being first to the pitch here, this could, they could run away with it.
Starting point is 02:18:04 Also- It'd be crazy to have a sports game that's fun to play. That'd be, that'd be astonishing. Yeah. I was going to say when like, when I was a kid, I tried to play sports games and like, I always thought that sports games were what you just described, you know, and then I'd play them and be like, what the fuck, like, what do I even do? You know, like, why am I not controlling?
Starting point is 02:18:26 No, y'all are bugging. There's a there's a ton of fun sports games out there. Oh, tons. Yeah. But what has happened? They stopped coming out in 2004. Because it also became like, we can sell you a simulator on art for your fantasy, you know, leagues on a regular annualized basis here. And so we just couldn't we quadruple down on that.
Starting point is 02:18:46 And yeah, no, this is this is cool. And I love the idea as well that like, returning the fun comes with a return to arcade style, right sports games to like I like fast paced, not simulator versions of these games. Everyone Everyone, like sports fans and basketball fans and not basketball fans, all remember Street 2. You know, we'll be talking about NBA Jam and shit like that, Blitz and all that wild stuff. Like all those crazy versions of the games were awesome. I think Sifu, Deb's doing that. Very smart move. This conversation is only tangentially related, but I'm just sitting here
Starting point is 02:19:28 getting fucking pissed off about Dev Jam icon. Just like, oh, you fucking assholes. Yeah, they didn't understand. They didn't get what the point was. Was that the last the last Def Jam game? Was that the one where you were you turntable on the air? Def Jam icon used the built on the Fight Night engine. They thought we can do it ourselves. We don't need Aki or any of the shit that people liked. And they yeah, you exactly you're scratching in midair and like using a, slow, janky system.
Starting point is 02:20:06 But you can create characters, so people could do custom fucking Weezy versus Soulja Boy at the time and upload that to YouTube. A piece of fucking shit. Yeah. And then, and then, that's not the shit. The shit is when the Twitter account for Def Jam keeps every three or four years
Starting point is 02:20:27 releasing a JPEG like, Def Jam world, new fighting game, maybe, idea, who would you want to be in it? Engagement tweet. It's coming alongside the reboot reboot. And then everybody tags me and goes, Oh my God, Def Jam's coming back, y'all, look, there's a tweet of a blurry JPEG with that one really bad M&M Photoshop.
Starting point is 02:20:49 Who do you want to be in it? Oh my God. And then BossLogic gets really excited and then starts making a hype piece of art. And it's like, no, don't feed into it. No. God damn it, Boss. Could you guys imagine if Capcom, like every three years,
Starting point is 02:21:04 was like, guys, who do you want to see in dark stalkers? four or five What's your dream Marvel roster asking people right now who you'd want to see in a Marvel game? while today actually while also putting up like you can get your tailbane outfit in Street Fighter six and a bunch of icons and stuff. I don't know, but I got it. Yeah, rematch, you know, smart. And this is the kind of game where to be honest, like if it takes off, slow clap might just
Starting point is 02:21:40 disappear and become the soccer company. Yeah, possible. But hey, at least Sifu got a cool episode of Secret Level. I feel really bad. There's some guy with a YouTube account out there that has like 400 videos in a row that are all titled, I beat a Sifu level every day until they announce a sequel. Oh my god. And then the newest upload is just called a soccer game. Sorry, buddy. Sorry.
Starting point is 02:22:12 So, Pal World announced a new update. And I bring this up just to say that the lawsuit means that they're pulling out Pokeball throwing. And they're updating with new features, bosses and characters and stuff. But I don't know if you felt this, but I watched the new trailer and I've also, I haven't touched Pal World since like all these last updates and stuff, but it was just, it was a regular new feature content update trailer with new characters doing things and new people to fight and new monsters to catch. And I'm like, Oh, did the success and
Starting point is 02:22:52 fame kind of lead to a like, we're not gonna go into the crazy sweatshop shit anymore. I mean, they they did a lot of that. Yeah. I guess I'm like, don't just be an earnest new expansion. Show me some bullshit abuse of your Pokemon. I mean, you have to remember, they are being actively sued right now. They are. But the only reason why anyone turned their head in this direction was because we saw your pals getting
Starting point is 02:23:22 whipped on a line where they had to build guns, which you then used to shoot to hunt more pals. Did they tone that stuff down? No, I don't think so. I don't think so, but it's more just like the trailer. I was like, oh, there was like none of it. There's none of that like that scathing, like kind of like vibe of like,
Starting point is 02:23:43 yeah, here's your fucking buddies, like inject them to keep them working while they're while they're tired like all of that shit the things that I want them to lean in I want them to lean into the reason why we showed up you know don't just be like oh everyone likes the characters and the bosses and the fun stuff well like more of that we made so much money we don't know what to do with it you know mean told, Wooly, they added a pal conveyor belt where you deposit pals into a literal crusher and you- Yeah!
Starting point is 02:24:09 Oh my God, that's fucking crazy. Holy shit, yeah, okay, all right, now we're talking. Yeah, okay. All right, now we're talking. The garbage disposal of death pop off. I love it. That's fucking crazy. Anyway, all right, we got Ninja Gaiden. What?
Starting point is 02:24:44 Ninja Gaiden. Ninja Gaiden. What? Ninja Gaiden. What? Ninja Gaiman. My brain didn't even complete it because I remember watching that and going, yeah, it's Ninja Gaiden. Gaiden, whatever. But it's, yeah.
Starting point is 02:24:55 But I thought you meant the other Ninja Gaiden. No. No, you mean the old Ninja Gaiden. The other, the original Ninja Gaiden. Gaiden. Gay men. Gay men. Okay, well, it original Ninja Gaiden, Gaiden. Gaiden? Gaiman, Gaiman. Okay, well it's properly Gaiden, but like when we were all kids we said Ninja Gaiden,
Starting point is 02:25:10 so it's Ryu Ryu forever. Oh, okay. Yeah, I said Gaiden for a while. I said, you know what I used to say? I used to say Resident Evil Gaiden on Game Boy. Oh my God, okay. Gaiden. Yeah, because the my god, okay. Gaiden. Yeah, because the Mortal Kombat guy said Raiden,
Starting point is 02:25:29 so then we said, all right, it's Gaiden. Yeah, it's the same, yeah, it's just one, yeah. So it's Ninja Rue. I'm making fun of Seth Killian. Ah, Rue, Rue, Rue, right, yes, yes, gotcha. I'm like, uh, yep. Sorry, that might have been a bit too inside even for this room.
Starting point is 02:25:45 No, he used to say Rue on the, he adamantly said Rue while he was doing commentary for Street Fighter. It's fucking ridiculous. But yes, no, the, that was, it was Ray Den until Metal Gear. Wait a minute, hold on a sec, hold on, wait, wait, wait, wait a minute, aren't, don't you guys say Sakura? Sakura
Starting point is 02:26:08 Okay, who says oh, you know who I'm thinking of? Oh my god. I'm thinking of Max Max says Sakura. Sorry Okay, I got my fighting people mixed up. I say Sakura. Yeah Sakura depending on if my brain is on or not. Yeah No, I I I used to, like, I didn't have dub Naruto. So I never heard Akatsuki as the like, English way of that being your presence. So I used to like, underline the use of good old Akatsuki. Yeah, the Akatsuki was what I was reading in my head when I was reading the manga pages. I love it.
Starting point is 02:26:49 Yeah. Indeed. Shit's hard. Yeah. Stick a microphone in front of your fucking face and see what you get right, idiot. Hey, did you know that, hey, you should never make fun of somebody for pronouncing a word wrong because it means that they read it first and that means they're reading a lot and that means they might be smart
Starting point is 02:27:05 Yes, they're trying now. I just want to know which one of these people over here That's making fun of my pronunciations or words or any of us for that matter is laughing through a giant southern drawl South assed Nonsense pronunciations of shit page makes fun of my accent all the time, and then I catch her saying her weird shit her weird way. Mm-hmm. Like she offered me her condolences. Oh, what?
Starting point is 02:27:33 And I'm like, what the fuck is that? Condolences? Have you been saying that? What is condolences? That way your whole life? If you are typing out your fucking language corrections, and you are south of the Mason Dixon fuck off anyway we got to take a look at this so the weird pac-Man secret level then led to a game about dark evil Pac-Man shadow labyrinth. That's really fucking funny. Crazy.
Starting point is 02:28:12 Is this just the new direction of the series? Is horror evil hell? I mean I thought it was a bit where they were like, hey yeah go nuts with Pac-Man make it darker make it crazier. Actually no. I thought it was a bit where they were like hey, yeah go nuts with pack and make it darker make it crazy I actually know like well almost like when Capcom was like you didn't make this Dante different enough Right like God go further with it. I could see that being the case But then they're like actually no we have a game being made too No, man Pac-Man's edgy as shit cuz you know Pac-Man is is hunger
Starting point is 02:28:41 Dark evil hunger for ghosts. So what's the actual episode like like? I haven't seen I haven't seen the. I haven't seen it. Yeah. Shadowy ghosts that's like poor and running away from this beast that's the you know trying to get him. If it worked for Karate Kid you can you can flip the script on Pac-Man 2, right? There was that, then a bunch of stuff. Did all of that secret level stuff come out, by the way? Yeah, it's all out. Gotcha.
Starting point is 02:29:14 Can I complain about something for one minute? I was scrolling through Instagram and a Capcom USA post came up and it was a preview for the Mega Man episode and I didn't read the caption and I was like, oh my god, what the fuck like what is this? Holy shit, like I thought it was like I thought it was like a re engine like Mega Man Legends 3 And then I scrolled down more and I was like fuck my life like it's just fucking goddamn TV Susie, maybe we just don't know about oh Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean it's all I want to it is, Suzie, maybe we just don't know about it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, that's all I wanna test it. It is very good, I will say.
Starting point is 02:29:47 It is an awesome four minute intro to a Mega Man world that we could all enjoy. Because basically it felt like they were animating the comics, you know? Super dope, but yes, also nothing. Yeah, I mean, you know, Post Malone showed up. I don't know, other stuff, whatever. My bold kind of ended at Virtua Fighter Warframe 1999.
Starting point is 02:30:15 You know what? Oh, that is pretty cool. Rebecca's dress was great. Good for you, Rebecca. You look amazing. That was cool. And it's also like not everybody gets to have this thing where you're like we get popular and then we can come back around and like reinvent the first thing that we
Starting point is 02:30:30 did and like kind of remake it in a different way. Like that's a cool bit, you know? And I think also there was a story today about how there was a bug in Warframe that allowed people to use the Atomis cycle in regular missions. Yeah. And then they just say, fuck it. You're only supposed to use it in the 1999 sections in the open world. And now they're like, fuck it. It's a feature. You can use it anywhere now. So that is the Warframe way.
Starting point is 02:31:01 Incredible. That's how everything cool that has come to warframe has happened They fucked up and let it usable and then went ah fuck on shit. Okay. Well Roll roll it ship it. It's fine. Does it break anything? Can you do anything? You're not supposed to do it definitely breaks tons of shit The answer was supposed to be no then fuck it ship it but no Always breaks tons of shit, and then they fix it okay. It breaks everything Okay, all right sounds like warframe to me Yeah, I forgot about hell divers in there brah no I did roll past it, but it was there. There's a new race, the new faction, and I like,
Starting point is 02:31:52 here, where was that? Yeah, the Illuminati faction. And then you also see the- The Illuminate. Illuminate, excuse me. And they're also fighting in city urban environments. Yeah. And I'm like, well, now you're just EDF.
Starting point is 02:32:06 You put them in a city and the EDF vibes are complete. So there's a lot of really great stuff that happened. I'm a big fan of the way Helldivers does stuff. So they came out and said, they put out the trailer for the Illuminate, which is the new enemy faction, and then followed it up with, we are under attack right the fuck now. Like literally that second,
Starting point is 02:32:29 the Illuminate attacked Super Earth, which is a cool little way to put it in. But I need to give special notes, because they put out a little trailer, like a proper feature overview this afternoon. Me and Paige watched it earlier. And so the Illuminate are like, you know, fancy Protoss, you know, space aliens. But their foot, their foot soldier unit is a bunch of zombies. Those zombies have been deprived
Starting point is 02:32:58 not only of their life, but also more importantly of their ability to vote And that enemy type is called the vote less Yes, and when you kill them they salute super earth on the way down to the ground incredible perfect It's so fucking funny. Are they is this new faction on super earth on the map? I believe they are literally attacking super Okay, that's why that's what the environment is bad Yeah, they may have been fought back by the time this podcast went live amazing. That's pretty strong I don't know if did did did they get their momentum back after the the fucking Sony bullshit? Yeah, okay good
Starting point is 02:33:43 Oh, they got it back last night ah okay because it felt like that that steam garbage kind of like bummed everybody out yeah I think we also saw through the new DNF dual stuff that like the word I think Reggie coined was Hoyokor. Like that exact anime art style that you throw on the Marvel rivals characters, you know, where you're like, it's a particular type of lighting and some of your like even Peter Parker has a couple of strands of red and blue in his hair, you know? Like that exact aesthetic is cash money. I would like to point out that the DNF people
Starting point is 02:34:31 are completely full of fucking shit. Because they had that Kazan, the first Berserker trailer that looked like Conan and super western and realistic. That game is anime as fuck. The actual gameplay is anime? Oh no, I was, damn it. When I saw the Hoyoverse looking game that played afterwards, those games actually look the same.
Starting point is 02:34:57 I spent that whole trailer talking about, wow, they're going for like a Western, like actual old Viking look. Well, I guess that's where Berserkers originate from they are Viking like Nordic and you know and we went into that hole like yeah huh they're going away from anime for one of these games interesting what the fuck all lies yeah like just here I'll just send you the fucking Google search of cuz I'm the first Berserkers click click on that You'll see like blonde anime boy fighting like anime monsters in the Dark Souls kind of thing. Oh
Starting point is 02:35:31 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. It's like one of the biggest lie trailers I have ever seen it is it is like darker more Gritty anime, but it is still full anime looking in his hair and everything. It's like proper cell shaded and shit. It looks nothing like that shit. That's hilarious. It looks cool in game, but yeah, the trailer was like, it was pretty awesome seeing that and just being like, what the hell is this? Some kind of witcher kind of character.
Starting point is 02:36:07 Well, I mean, again, the game they showed right after that was DNF embracing that same kind of Hoyo art style, which- Yeah, what the fuck kind of game is that second one? Um, I mean, it's one where- Is that a gacha? What was it here? I think I lost it on the list, but it's, it makes money to put you out like that.
Starting point is 02:36:31 Oh, it's a money game? It's a money game. No, is it, what is it? It's a gacha full gacha? Probably, I imagine so. And a bunch of those like characters that, yeah, if you see the classes you're looking for, you're like, oh, there's your berserker. There's your battle mage, etc. You just kind of you slap that filter on it and it's good to go. Arad, there we go, ARPG from Nexon. Zunla's Wuthering Waves, ba da da da da.
Starting point is 02:37:12 Okay, I guess the only other thing is that Game of Thrones game, King's Road. Oh my God. Oh man. The weirdest part is that this game wasn't released like a couple years ago, when people really wanted that thing that would have all the faces and names and recognition. What a strange- It's a phone game, you know that, right?
Starting point is 02:37:33 It's a phone game. It's a fucking phone game, yes. They hid that from that trailer. They sure did. Wild. I was really put off by that because, of course course I think like literally everybody listening to this, my first reaction was like, who still cares about this after the final season? But then my second thought was, why make it look like the horrible, horribly ended TV show? Like make it look like something else. Like it could be Game of Thrones, make it book accurate, don't make it look like the TV show.
Starting point is 02:38:01 No, because we got Kit Harrington to do Five Lines. I just finished season two of House of Dragon, and I'm enjoying it. It is pretty solid. I feel like you could have even gone that direction if need be, as was current or so, because that has another two seasons before the book is wrapped up. You see, the nice thing about having a story that you start making when the book is finished is that you can pace it and you don't have to worry about Grimm's farts getting in the way of whatever you have to create for the final season. Which, by the way, I don't know if you saw that story,
Starting point is 02:38:40 but he kind of came out and said, yeah yeah guys, actually, I think I give up. He said I might not ever finish it. He literally just said it. Oh, I can't believe it. Yeah, it's. I can't believe it. Who would have saw that coming? Well, I have to wonder. He's supposed to keep us edging until his grave. The thing is, is that I have to wonder supposed to keep us edging until his grave I have to the thing is is that I have to wonder is this kind of what like
Starting point is 02:39:09 You know hunter hunter guy and like Mura and like, you know way and stuff go through where there's like I mean illness obviously gets in the fucking Illness aside right where you're like, oh this person's sick and literally cannot physically make right or so. There's a lot of mangaka that go on hiatus and kind of like fade away from the work over time. And I wonder if like, is he just kind of like, like, in a way in that place where you're he's like, I don't want to end this, it's emotionally too hard or I can't overcome, you know, or I'm stuck at a block or there's a problem. You know what I mean? Like, is there something that like we're just not, that we don't know about that's presenting a much more obvious problem? Or is it just,
Starting point is 02:39:54 ah, can't be honest. I believe he has talked about what has stymied him. So the way that he writes his books is that he makes fully realized characters in his mind and then puts them into situations and in his head he just writes the characters that would react the way he imagines them in those situations. They're alive, yes. A lot of authors do that. But he has an ending he wants and he's looking at where he has put those characters and he's going, I don't know how to get them to the ending I want without changing the way that those characters are.
Starting point is 02:40:33 So he's fucked himself. That's a very interesting. That sounds pretty similar to something else that we all watched and didn't like. Where characters that we all loved radically didn't like, where characters that we all loved radically changed at the last minute to become something else that nobody liked. Yeah, because we needed to get to this one spot.
Starting point is 02:40:54 To get to this one spot. Oh, wow. So he saw what happened with the show, and he says, I don't want to do that. But now he's fucking stuck, because that's what he has to do. Imagine reading in a book that a coffee cup from Starbucks is in the background.
Starting point is 02:41:10 Imagine that movie. Oh, that's angry. Oh, that's, so that, a lot of authors do describe how like, you set the pieces in motion and then they play themselves out, you know? That is a shitty fucking thing to have the looming outcome of this and also the comparison of how terrible the fucking series was and you'd be like,
Starting point is 02:41:35 you can't do that, you have to. Yeah, you have to avoid that. You would rather let it just end unfinished than end badly. You have to do a- You would rather let it just end unfinished than end badly. Well, there's always Game of Thrones brotherhood. Yes. Get the little full metal alchemist
Starting point is 02:41:56 to finish Game of Thrones. Fuck it, let's just take that joke to the nth degree. Conqueror of Shambhala, that really short live action thing where a bunch of kids are in our world playing in the Streets, and then we just do it again Yeah, fuck it. He he did all of his Elden Ring work in the gap man That's the part that makes it feel wild is like their names started with a G or an R or an M.
Starting point is 02:42:36 I just can't wait to read the passage. Jorah knelt down, sweat on his brow, reached out, picked up the modern day water bottle and asked the party, whose water bottle is this? Whose water bottle? That's what I'm excited for. Yeah, British people. Perfect. I mean literally just like in the prose he's describing the boom in the shot, you know. That's all you go, that's all you need to know. That's all you need to know. All right. Let's take a couple letters. Hey, if you want to send in a letter, send it to castle super beast mail at gmail.com. Send it to castle super beast mail at gmail.com.
Starting point is 02:43:16 If you're newly into Virtua Fighter because of the open beta and you've discovered that Virtua Fighter is all you need in your life, please write in. Please make Wooly read those. I lied. We're not reading letters. Oh. Oh. Let's take a quick word from our sponsors. These are my favorite letters. Letters from the sponsors.
Starting point is 02:43:39 I'll go get a bottle of water, I guess. Oh, yes, yes. Please, do that. Hydration is important. Away from the microphone. Yes, yes, muting the microphone even. Yeah, let's do that. It's fine, listen, listen.
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Starting point is 02:55:00 plus free shipping while your subscription is active. I mean listen truffle butter filet mignon yo yo killin it killin it thank you factor thanks factor all right bro this disabled dog somehow figured out a way to jump off the couch onto the baby's like high chair and eat all of his chicken nuggies this morning. Is that what happened? Okay. Yeah. All the nuggies.
Starting point is 02:55:37 Like this, this dog's got screwed up front legs and we don't even know how he got on there. But I came into the room and like the baby was out of the high chair and the dog was like standing and the high chair That was like you know the tops like three and a half four feet tall like a foot away from the couch Like how did this? disabled freak Get on and he got some nuggies. Okay. I like at least two full chicken nuggies now. Here's the problem Inside the dog we zoom in on a sphere grid where way over here has been unlocked there was nothing there but
Starting point is 02:56:13 suddenly all right or more like yeah or like you like the material screen in ff7 remake just like in this in the darkest space, a flavor profile is now there. You're gonna have to deal with that. He earned those nuggies. With those elbows. Maybe he set up a little ramp, right? He set up a little ramp and just walked up there.
Starting point is 02:56:39 Oh, this dog, we're gonna get a ramp eventually, but he just launches himself off furniture and lands on elbows It's really quite a Poor little guy. Oh My god, he's a sweet guy though. So he's so cute Before we grab some of those letters Susie is anything going on on your end? Yeah, what's up? Uh Yeah, there's a lot going on there's some
Starting point is 02:57:06 There I guess you Yeah, there's a lot going on. There's some, there, I guess, you know, there's some cool projects I've been working on, like NDA'd kind of stuff that'll come out like much later, which is nice and fun. There's that cool one, can't talk about that. There's that other one. Yeah, there's a cool one. Yeah, you know what I'm talking about. Oh, there's that one.
Starting point is 02:57:23 Yeah, that one, that one was really cool, yeah, you know what I'm talking about. Oh, there's that one. Yeah, that one. That one was really cool. Yeah, exactly. I'm making a pretty big video right now on the original Silent Hill 2, and I have played every version of original Silent Hill 2. I I beat the HD collection on both platforms that it's available for. And man, I can, like, I remember playing it back in the day, the HD version of those games, and was like, okay, like, you know, whatever, like, I have the PS2 version, that's okay. But like, actually forcing yourself to play those versions is like, it's a whole other, it's a whole other can of worms. Yeah,
Starting point is 02:58:05 it's like, like you could just be walking down a hallway and like, like a hallway in like the hospital or even in the apartment and then like the fucking horn, like the boat horn when you're going down the stairs will just play randomly and you're like, what, like what what? How? Why? It's it's fucked. Well, I was there. Were there lessons learned from this prolonged painful experience that were necessary? Like, did this contribute to the final script in any way? Yes. OK. All right. I that's in the ports section of the script.
Starting point is 02:58:44 But, you know, I Don't recommend those versions obviously because you know Everyone loves when in the middle of the video essay moment the the speaker goes and so here's the activity I did that was unnecessary but took like years off of my life Oh the ten Roger section, uh-huh. And then and then the actual end result is gonna be this sentence right here. Alright, moving on. Yeah, that was definitely, that's definitely that part. It's like three sentences of like, yeah, you know, it's fucked, don't play it.
Starting point is 02:59:15 Yeah, just don't do it like Tim does, where he'll read out like, I played these 48 games while suffering and dying from strep throat, and I've shaved four years off my life so I can put a four-minute segment in here. Do you know, you guys want to know something for the past, I don't know, three, two, maybe three years, Tim has been just out of the blue randomly DMing me like oh yeah that collab that I have in mind like we're gonna do it soon and then a year will go by and I hear nothing about it. And then the hill just Yeah, I don't I still don't know what the collab is. But I'm ready. I wonder if that invite he put in his Katamari Damacy review where
Starting point is 02:59:57 if you show up at his house, he'll let you crash on his couch and make you play Katamari Damacy. I wonder if that invite is still open. Oh, yeah. I'm so, I would never want to work with Tim Rogers. I would feel like such a slob and a fucking lazy piece of shit. I would just stare. I would just stare like this. What's he going to do next? Tell me more about not the video game that we're currently trying to figure out. Tell me about that convenience store you game that we're trying to figure out That convenience store you went to when you were 13 years old and the guy behind the counter was kind of weird to you
Starting point is 03:00:30 Like I can't describe how weird it is because again like I don't have video YouTube Tim Rogers and at all in my brain I just have reading the articles from insert coin and and and Five red stars five red coins the articles from Insert Coin and Five Red Stars, Five Red Coins, I think, as well. The blogs, the articles, just long-winded, unabridged. You will know how he feels about Katari. I'm going to watch those video reviews. They're absolutely unbelievable. I did get through about halfway through Tokimeki. I did. I did I did get through about halfway of tech halfway through Tokimeki. I did
Starting point is 03:01:05 I didn't finish it but that doom one is incredible and it's the one that blew up right away It is not the voice I heard in my head when I was reading those articles 20 years ago or so though That's the thing. I heard a very different voice from from what I got there. Oh, he's got professional radio man ass voice but there's a desperation in his like, face and tone. As he's describing it. Like there's a there's an absolute urgency behind his voice that I did not hear when I was reading it, you know. All right. It's incredible. Yeah. I will say, I think I, I've never heard or seen anyone talk about this specific thing in Silent Hill, but I, I tweeted a video out recently of me playing the game on a CRT television screen. And, uh,
Starting point is 03:02:00 when you click on the save point, the little red squares in the game, when you click on the save point, the little red squares in the game, your TV becomes a little red square in real life. And I tweeted that out. And the director of Silent Hill 2, Matsashi Tsuboyama, actually retweeted it and was like loving it. And I was like, what the fuck? Like, this is wild. Anyway, I I just thought I would is that what the fucking squares me if I think that's what it means Yeah, did you figure it out like decades later? I think so Holy shit. It was awesome a retweet a retweet is basically confirmation, right? It was actually a quote tweet I'll have you know with us
Starting point is 03:02:43 So yeah It was actually a quote tweet, I'll have you know, with starry eyes. Oh, so? So, yeah. Wow. Oh, you just realized? Hey, Woolly, this is a great time to point out. Woolly, would you like your pre-apology from Suzie for when she inevitably runs you over with her car now that you're playing Cyberpunk? Oh, yes.
Starting point is 03:03:03 Yeah. Oh! Is that gonna happen then? Listen, just don't get in my fucking way, okay? Like, I got places to be. Okay. Are you romanceable? Uh, maybe in the sequel. Okay. We'll see. Who knows? Alright. Damn.
Starting point is 03:03:20 Damn. Take, uh, audience, take that however you want it. Maybe in Witcher 4, who knows. 2078, that's a long time away. Yeah. So. Well, don't, if you crash your car, don't crash my game. That's all I ask.
Starting point is 03:03:39 I heard you were having some problems. Couple of eeee little boos. Wully has that certain special something. You know. Uh, yeah. A normal computer that passed all its benchmarks. I don't know what to tell you. And then a regular
Starting point is 03:03:56 PS5. You and Paige just have the fucking touch. The fucking touch of Doom. It's a minute. Try to get out of the life. I don't know if I ever told you, but there was a time when Paige started up her stream and was like, every single thing is broken, Fallout won't turn on, and I came over, sat down, pressed the button once and it turned on,
Starting point is 03:04:19 and I started getting super pissed. Just like, I didn't even change anything. I didn't even change anything. Yeah, no, that's the thing is like for a while, like people would just be like, I don't believe you. And I'm like, no, Reggie's here and he witnessed that nothing changed, but different results occurred. Anyway, anyway. That's PC gaming for you.
Starting point is 03:04:42 It really is. That'll just happen. And again, like I will sit there and tinker with an emulator for hours until it runs perfectly I just for PC gaming in general for PC games I'm just like I run around console who cares like I just yeah for sure because my priority is like I care more about Getting the emulator to run the arcade game a lot more than I care about whatever fucking, you know, mouse-wazda shit I'm about to get into. Oh, for sure, yeah. It's just what it is.
Starting point is 03:05:10 It's just what it is, y'all. I will say, PC gaming got way easier when I got a 4090. I was like, oh shit. I was like, I don't even have to fucking worry anymore. Yeah, just turn it all up to maximum every time and ignore it. And fucking ignore it. Unless you're Ghost of Tsushima, which apparently turning on frame generation turns your computer off completely.
Starting point is 03:05:33 Yeah, it's a piece of fucking shit with that. Everyone screamed not to turn on frame gen for Cyberpunk, yeah. Although, I don't know if you're running Windows 11 or if you're holding out stalwart 10 like I was, but 11 is necessary to get GPU scheduling Don't know if you're running windows 11 or if you're holding out stalwart 10 like like I was but 11 is necessary to get GPU scheduling working probably do a bunch of cool shit Yeah, so I have my in my on my portal computer my portal themed PC
Starting point is 03:05:57 I have windows 11 and on my stars office resident evil themed PC. I have windows 10 still I'm holding out on that. Yeah, I am too For me, it was auto HDR that that made me upgrade to 11. I fucking love that feature. Okay Yeah, I might I'm pushing it on that one and I might push it on to the others as well But I'm yeah god, I just I hate the process of like cleaning everything out the moment you update it You know like you update it, you know Like you're it fills with bloatware immediately and it takes weeks before all the stupid pop-ups are still You are taking care of and whatever. It's so insane like occasionally you'll update your computer and then like you just have no space on the main drive and then you type in like
Starting point is 03:06:41 file size Gigantic and it's just like a nothing file that's like 200 gigabytes and you're like what the fuck even is this how did this happen where did this come from it's your fantasy star online to install oh yeah you did for that sponsored stream that you can't pull off your fucking computer It's a little weird when that happens. That might not be specific. Okay.
Starting point is 03:07:06 CastleSuperBeastMail at gmail.com. Let's take one over here. Apropos of the current topic. Boomer Tech opinions. Salutations, CyberWooly and VirtuaPat. No preamble or lead in. Just a quick and easy question. What are your Boomer Tech opinions?
Starting point is 03:07:22 For example, what are your Boomer Tech opinions? What are your Boomer Tech opinions? What are your Boomer tech opinions salutations cyber woolly and a virtue a pat no preamble or lead-in just a quick and easy question What are your Boomer tech opinions for example? Mine is I refuse to have smart appliances in my home smart light bulbs smart fridge My toaster doesn't need an internet connection fuck off from dull No, yeah Okay, so smart bulbs I am using for the current setup because I went through a couple different options that failed and the smart bulbs ended up being really useful.
Starting point is 03:07:51 So all the lighting improvements are thanks to that. But the Internet of Things is encroaching and will never go away and you can fight it off for as long as you want. Eventually that toaster is going gonna need a fucking firmware update. I hold onto, I'm stubborn about a couple things. I still reject all cookies on websites and I go to the advertising options and I say all non-essentials, you know,
Starting point is 03:08:18 whatever they force you to or whatever the case is. They'll make it more annoying, they'll make you have to open up a bunch of drop downs to do it, but I'll sit there and do it every time. I'm like, yeah, you make it a pain in the ass. I don't give a fuck, leave me alone. I'll be stubborn about every time I'm installing something and it's like, hey, do you wanna do quick install,
Starting point is 03:08:35 fast install, super convenient install, or custom installation over here? You don't wanna do custom. And then you have to go to custom so that you fucking get rid of all the extra bloat and bullshit that they put on it. Yeah. So you could get rid of a game spy arcade. Yeah. If you remember that shit.
Starting point is 03:08:53 Is Pat? Oh, shit. He's gone. A power outage just led to what I didn't think was a freezing Pat because it looks like he's just in his normal position. Deep thought, yeah. At some point this will blow up and then it'll turn into infinite Woolies. So until I release my domain expansion, we'll sit here for now. Yeah there we go. Infinite Woolly domain expansion.
Starting point is 03:09:23 All right. All right. Well, that's okay. Well, oh, you're back. Hey, hello. Okay, can I ask a... Hold on. How do you have a power outage and then you're back immediately? How does that work? This computer loads up very fast. Oh, but did your power came back? Yeah, it was a brownout.
Starting point is 03:09:42 I see. left for the law. It left for J. So if my power had gone completely out, my backup supplies would have kicked on and kept everything on. But since the power came back within a half second, they never kicked on and thus the computers all turned off. Gotcha. See, the magic of recording on a laptop setup is during a power outage, the laptop doesn't die. So it's another.
Starting point is 03:10:10 That happens like five times a year. Yeah, yeah. It's like, it's another options, option select. I run on it where it's just like, okay, cool. Everything in the city is dead, but I didn't lose. I'm paranoid about losing shit. All right. Yeah. I mean, I saved it. Yep. Custom installations,
Starting point is 03:10:27 always doing that. One drive, fuck off. Whatever onboarding process that wants to have you just quickly click install and fill your computer with bullshit. Always going into the specific options and unchecking everything you don't need. That's my answer to that. Oh, what's my boardTech opinion? I have one too. Yeah, what do you got? It'll be really quick. New cars kind of suck. There's nothing wrong with driving a shitbox, whatever from the 90s. As long as you maintain it, it'll be fine. You don't need to... I don't want to subscribe to my car to be able to
Starting point is 03:11:09 use the brakes or whatever. Right. There's a cutoff point for when the car's steel trap build and breakaway glass will just kill you though, right? You can't go back too many decades. Sure. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The cool looking. I got a trocar. I think iPads have ruined the children, and I think my kids are going to look like a goddamn genius for being able to install a program on Windows.
Starting point is 03:11:37 Yes, I agree. Yeah, that's that's not even a boomer tank, man. The children are bad at computers again like really bad and also reading and writing and crafts and Not had being mentally ill, but that's a different. That's a different. Yeah No, no a lot of like now that a lot of them are like taught are growing up and talking and saying like yes actually, I do hate that my attention is fucked up because of this and They don't know how to like do so do computer things or desktop things or so. Yes.
Starting point is 03:12:10 You know what was a really fun experience, dude? So we were like, okay, we went to get the dog. We went on a road trip with the baby, right? Baby is 15, 16 months old in that area, right? And so we're like, okay, let's look up, hey, what's some good tips to keep a toddler entertained on a long drive? What do you think every single article we fucking found said? iPad give them your iPad it'll entertain them for hours like no god damn it Fuck yep, yeah so the answer is actually someone sits in the back and and hangs out with the baby and and Sings them songs and shit and the problem is that that tip is right they will be
Starting point is 03:12:48 entered for hours and you know what else will make them happy heroin a thumb of whiskey will absolutely calm them down yeah I talked to my mom she's like yeah you would cry and cry and cry and you had colic so bad so you know every now and then was a little dip in a little made you feel much better. I'm like, I fucking bet it did. Speaking of cars, I have an update about my answer. Apparently any sedan from the 90s is safe.
Starting point is 03:13:19 Cool. OK. So so yeah, as long as you're driving one of those shit boxes you're good. What about an 85 hatche roku? Initial D car it's the it's the fuck this weed. It's a civic. It's a design to roll It's just you roll it. It's just a Honda. It's it's not okay. Yeah fucking weed got it Anyway Okay, yeah. Fucking weeb. Got it. Anyway. I'm such a weeb that I got it wrong, it's 86. Damn. You're bad at being a weeb. There you go.
Starting point is 03:13:59 I have another update about the car. Gundam 0059, incoming. Hold on, wait, I have an update for you, Willy. That car is only dangerous if you mod the brakes. Okay. Gotcha. I might have a car expert to talk to at every two seconds of my life. So anyway.
Starting point is 03:14:22 I am a fake weeb. I would have been better if I didn't say anything at all. Damn. That's brutal, man. We got one coming in from Connor who says, hey, Watanpoolee. Yeah. I hate that one. It's really, it's pretty low effort. In the last episode you briefly mentioned the characters from Marvel Rivals and how they're getting a lot of play in the rigging and SFM community As a legitimate researcher of this stuff. Let me tell you that it's that a fun thing to call yourself This area is in two words depressingly Distressingly under researched we do not have any info on people's interests aside from public metrics and view counts." Uh...
Starting point is 03:15:10 No, this person literally wrote a paper on waifus that was accepted in a major American Psych Association journal. On the subject. So, not actually... Not just fancy gooningoning like official for real. If you could learn anything about the people who engage in goon media what would you want to know? Wow Connor is actually writing papers about source filmmaker gooning. I would like, the only thing I would like to know about the research end of goon media is fun facts or things you wouldn't expect or you know.
Starting point is 03:15:55 Hey, I want. Antimitruisms. Here's what I want. I want a map of the globe and I want every single country when you click on it to say may tracer. Oh, that exists. You can look that up. Pornhub puts it out for America, right? Pornhub puts out the image. I want the SFM global map to see what countries are into what? What character? Every single country, 100% Bridget. There you go, there you go.
Starting point is 03:16:30 She's got a point. Okay, well Italy's got Tifa. No, yeah, I mean that's- Oh, true, yeah, true. That's the rule. That's how it goes. But I am very, that's what I want, frankly. Updated every single day.
Starting point is 03:16:48 Yeah. I mean, listen. I'd probably scrape that data and it'd be publicly available. That probably could be done like today. I mean, if Marvel Rivals is not internally on some document somewhere tracking this metric, they're not doing their jobs, right?
Starting point is 03:17:05 By the way, there is Marvel Rivals news, I forgot. Aside from the gooning. Yes, but the idea here is that they've been so careful about this launch in every other way. You're telling me they're gonna ignore the fucking goon market that they clearly have a pie to take a piece of. Alright?
Starting point is 03:17:28 There's a lot of voice actors out there that have gigs where they need to sound alike to these characters. Alright? How accurately can you scream PURE CHAOS? And you know when to shout that. Come on. All right. Oh my god. Am I lying?
Starting point is 03:17:54 Where's the lie? Pat is a deep thought. Where's the lie? Where's the fucking lie? The Marvel Rivals news that we didn't go into is that when they were asked, hey, are you going to do a roll lock for ranked the devs on? Marvel rivals was like no that's stupid. That's not fun
Starting point is 03:18:10 Are you going to do roll lock for ranked or roll cueing and they're like no Just okay you up and just fucking argue with the team and fucking play whoever you want Fight for fight for whoever you yeah, what your preferences is all you want to do is play iron fist every game Fight for, fight for whoever you, your preferences. If all you wanna do is play Iron Fist every game, they're not gonna stop you. Okay. You can put in the like, please let me take this character. Yeah, you could, you could,
Starting point is 03:18:36 you could ask people on the internet, please. But the hard no is, is, yeah, okay. Yeah. But the hard no is is yeah, okay Yeah And I guess let's take one last one from Kay who says Dear darling Willie and nanny Pat What's worse a bad boss fight at the end of the game or no boss fight at all despite needing a third act climax This is obviously referencing Bioshock that fuck that's what I was literally gonna say yeah man bad versus none I I think I think that Bioshock infinite taught us that no boss fight
Starting point is 03:19:19 well there's a third option no boss fight when the game told you there would be one is the worst of all Yeah, yeah, that is absolutely the Easily worse than the other two I'll take a bad one over none I'll take a bad one over none and I but I can also say that there is a way to do none And it's not really the same but like obviously God of War reboot like You know, it's not none but it's like there's a that then you mo is excellent and it's like a repeat Yeah, and I like that but a bad one over none in a normal context is is
Starting point is 03:20:01 Preferable because none just feels like what did I fucking do? I don't know, you know you shoot a bunch of grunts and then walk out the door in the credit is preferable, because none just feels like, what did I fucking do? I don't know. You know, you shoot a bunch of grunts and then walk out the door and the credits roll. That's Mass Effect 3, right? Where Shadow of Mordor fits here. Because Shadow of Mordor, I don't know if you guys beat it,
Starting point is 03:20:18 it could qualify as all three of these. Because Shadow of Mordor says, you're gonna fucking fight Sauron. We're gonna go fucking fight Sauron. And you're like, really? And then you get there, and it is a cut scene with four QTE prompts. Oh no.
Starting point is 03:20:36 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, okay, listen. Damn. Yeah. Yeah, bad, bad, like, you know, unfinished designed boss fight versus no boss fight or QTE. Yeah, let, bad, bad, like, you know, unfinished designed boss fight versus no boss fight or QTE. Yeah, let's do that. Because you know what, you know what else you know what that just reminded me of Pat and even worse version of that? Halo 4. They build up the didact the whole fucking game. And then it's just you press one button and that's it you know actually you know what that reminds me of
Starting point is 03:21:08 It came up today You know what has a fucking dog shit ending onamusha one oh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally yeah. What was the last bit? I forget onamusha one you spend the whole game building up to go fight Nobunaga, and then you're looking at Nobunaga, and he gets up out of like a altar circle and looks at you, and then the game ends. Yeah, he walks down the stairs and you're like,
Starting point is 03:21:36 oh, here we go, and then a dragon shows up instead, and you fight the dragon, and then you don't fight Nobunaga. I deleted,'ve brain deleted oh dude it sucks doom eternal the final boss was a big monster with all the grunts at the same time yeah and you had to do combo to get a DLC no no no no no no it was literally it was a big demon the Icon of Sin is not great. Icon, yeah, Icon of Sin, that's what I'm thinking of, right.
Starting point is 03:22:09 And it's like, and it's like, and again, when you're struggling with boss fights and stuff, that's one thing if it's the whole game, but the, it was the Minotaur, I think? The, no, no, the- That's good, yeah. Yeah, the, like the cyberdemon fight was incredible. It was really good. So like, they have examples of like fucking how to do it properly, you know, so anyway, yeah Well bad over none for sure. Yeah for sure
Starting point is 03:22:32 Alright, no to be fair to doom eternal the icon of sin in doom 2 is fucking terrible. So like that was very accurate What it was like? Icon of Sin? Icon of Sin in Doom 2 was a wall. Yes. You would jump up on a high spot and shoot a rocket through a tiny hole and hit John Romero's face. Oh my god. Like it was hidden in the graphics but behind the texture of the thing you shot was like a decapitated head of John Romero going Every time you shot it Doesn't he also say that his name is John Romero, but backwards so you can't like make it out like the icon of sin
Starting point is 03:23:16 I'm pretty sure Well, he says he says I am John Romero and to beat the game. You must kill me or something like that, but it's backwards I'm pretty sure What about a fourth option like? Dungeons and Dragons shadows over Mestara or Judge dread where it's just a wall of damage that never ends and 20 minutes of attacking it See that's a bad boss fight eventually give way to it dying Yeah
Starting point is 03:23:44 Okay, songbird is like give way to it dying. Yeah. Okay. Songbird is like, I'm so mad about Songbird. Like all these years later, so pissed off. The design was cool. Yeah, it feels like like Songbird I feel is like a perfect like, okay, we made the coolest looking thing of all time. How do we make it work in video game? Oh, we can't, fuck it.
Starting point is 03:24:11 Oh, we can't, yeah, who gives a shit? And I remember, and like, the big daddies, I was like, oh, that's a tall act to follow because those are really coolly designed, big fucking, that makes things, you know? Yeah, let's follow it with fucking nothing. Yeah. Like nothing, like, oh, I'm an angry man!
Starting point is 03:24:26 Oh, get the fuck out of here. Alright, I guess that'll do. Thank you for your emergency... Yeah. ...of Onimusha opinions. Please repair the window on the way out, if you don't mind. Yes, I will. That glass might cut.
Starting point is 03:24:44 And you can take the ladder back down. I think I'll leave it there. You never know when I might show up. When I might need to show up again. Okay. We've proven that we can put podcast guests on with the five minutes of warning. So now it's always going to be a threat.
Starting point is 03:25:04 Just always broadcast from the Discord room with everybody in it so that anyone can just fucking kick open a door and go, ah! Get out of here, Gene! Yah, yah, get! Oh, I'm gonna tell Gene that I did this and he's gonna show up. You know it.
Starting point is 03:25:19 He's gonna show up. Later. show up later

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