Castle Super Beast - CSB300: ANTIFAE

Episode Date: December 25, 2024

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["Sailor Moon Theme"] Happy almost Christmas doesn't mean it was Christmas. So there's an incredible thread on the subreddit right now, I don't know if you saw it Which one but it says because of the Phoenix right LP we get to play we get to post this tired old joke Right and you click on it and it's the fucking message from kai lang Right and it's like oh man, that's just fucking a plus it got me it actually got me for real It continues it continues to get Yeah, all right, how you doing? Well you sound like shit well. We are approaching a wall very quickly I am I am looking at imminent burnout. Oh hell. Yeah, bro

I'm looking at imminent burnout. Oh hell yeah bro. I'm looking at it so I'm doing what I can do to take care of that and this is one of the final obligations I have. So let's chill it down. Let's chill it down. Have like a relaxed. Yeah no worries, I mean it's ultimately, it's been, yeah since tech foibles all the way through

preparation for con travel stuff and recording on and off stream and so on. It's been a pretty breakneck pace. Um, and I landed back yesterday and so we're going today at which point I assume a holiday feeling will suddenly immediately start right that's gonna rejuvenate you man I don't know the light of Christ is gonna shoot out of your eyes a wind will blow through and then all of a sudden all of this fatigue will be gone yeah no that that era is over that era stopped when we stopped believing in Santa Claus sick

So hey look at that 300 Today's 300, huh? That's crazy viewers There's 300 e all out there that oh, it's 299 today actually look at that well Apparently people love Jesus People thought today the podcast wasn't gonna happen yeah, they thought that but I didn't say any things therefore the rules apply Yeah, the rules apply. I don't say nothing. I'm not too worried about it. It's okay

Yeah, the rules apply. I don't say nothing. I'm not too worried about it. It's okay Jesus loves them too. Jesus loves everybody except you guy who knows who I'm talking about You know, you're you know what you did? I Mean He did like cleanse out that that marketplace of all the the merchants and stuff and that marketplace of all the merchants and stuff. And you know, he talked, he did talk mad shit that one time by writing something in the dirt.

You know what, Wally, I'm gonna be blunt. We don't have the time and energy to go into our usual make fun of Jesus diatribe that we do every year. Fair enough, but this wasn't gonna be a make fun of Jesus moment. This was legit. One time people were talking mad shit, Pharisees were getting uppity, and Jesus just bent down and wrote something in the sand.

And we don't know what he wrote, but they read it and just walked away. I bet it was very mean. He fucking wrecked their shit. I bet it was the meanest fucking thing you've ever heard yeah no like like unironically I'm I'm still hype over that story because they got the Pharisees are a bunch of bitch boy rage pluggers he wrote their fucking he wrote their their elo he wrote their elo on the ground that that let's talk about elo have you been playing Marvel rivals over the past week

at all don't ask me if I've been anything okay got it dude that game is so good and I'm so bad at it mm-hmm though to be fair I gave up I just fully switched back over to mouse and keyboard. Oh wow, okay and So what's happening is on Console you're on ranked you can only play with console players and on PC when you play ranked you can only play with PC players but the aim assist does not work the same on a can on a PC or Console like everything else like that. It is much more aggressive

on the console. For sure. Titanfall, big example. And what I discovered is that characters that I thought were good or bad completely inverted once I started using mouse and keyboard. I was like, I don't know why anyone ever picks Adam Warlock. And I'm oh my god if you play with a mouse and Q oh my god Adam Warlock so fucking good oh my god so what you're saying is you're now a Hella main no I'm just I'm too shit for that okay because the moment you learn how to aim there's no reason to not just play hell a Hawkeye is actually a lot more fun for me than in Hella because and I saw people test this, the hitbox on his arrow is like five feet around. It's actually super massive.

Okay. Is he a hitscan as well? No, he's not. He's Hanzo. Okay. Yeah. I feel like characters that have just like headshot aiming, like one shot down, I feel so bad about like, yeah, if you had this skill, then you would be able to do this, but you don't. Go develop that skill. They did the holiday event with Jeff the Landshark to when you played not Splatoon. So it's not as good as Splatoon because it's like a themed gimmick game mode.

It's way not worse than Splatoon than I expected. It's much closer to being really good than I thought it was gonna be for a two-week holiday event is it as not worse From Splatoon as Lucio ball was oh, it's much better. Okay. It's much better Cuz Lucio ball was a not worse But well no that's not true Lucio ball was worse than Than car soccer but not true. Lucio Ball was worse than Car Soccer. Yes, Car Soccer was way better than Lucio Ball.

Yeah, but it was a little attempt. It was a fun attempt. Yeah, that Marvel Rivals is kind of unbelievable. I don't know if you've been looking around, but when season one comes out in 18 days, there's going to be like six more characters Oh, are we still on zero? Is that what we're going? This is zero. Yeah So this is the baby starter season The next one will last like three months and is gonna include the entire fantastic four blade daredevil and ultra Okay

Yeah, man, a whole lot of things came out I'll get to them when I get a chance, but there's a lot to take care of. But yeah, that Marvel Rivals is kind of unbelievable. I'm so fucking impressed. I'm madly in love with that shit. Have they dropped any go fuck yourself, I don't care, I have to have it costumes yet There's so the battle pass costumes are all really really good like they're all really excellent and The There's a couple that people are like nuts about but I haven't seen anything that I'm like, oh that's absolute must-have

Like I paid my five bucks and got to see the the battle pass ones. Okay, but they haven't they haven't dropped the the Personalized nuke no, but like all the all the starter costumes are fantastic to be honest. Mm-hmm Like I'm super impressed. Also it was it was Trivially easy to bang out the whole battle pass It took me like a week. That once again has no end date. So even if you didn't. So I looked that up. I figured I found out what the deal with that is. So the battle pass has no end date, but the currency you use to buy things out of it does.

What does that mean? So okay, so it's season zero now. Yeah. And you get the little purple tokens that you use to buy things out of the battle pass, right? At the end of season zero, your purple tokens will be set to zero. And if you want to spend season one using your season one purple tokens to buy stuff out of season zero, you can. So if you want to have everything out of all the passes you do have to constantly keep playing. But if you do... The coins expire. Yes. Basically they don't want to make it so you can save up coins to just bang out battle passes the day they come out. Okay, so you can still buy the old thing that you didn't get but you have to yes

The current the current seasons currencies to do so gotcha. Yeah, okay, okay? So yeah in the end you can end up wasting here And what it means is that basically if you bought a battle pass that you were loved with but you didn't ever got to it Like I stopped playing for three months. You can then go then go well I don't care about any of these new ones I want to go get that battle pass that I got a couple months ago okay that is not as generous as it initially sounded but it is a decent compromise in the sense that it's not attacking you with the worst FOMO which is the usual goal as as somebody who has interacted with many of these gas games and

Their battle passes and all this shit This is the only one that does it better is hell divers because hell divers you just earn currency forever and the battle Passes are available forever, right? Yeah, I don't know if season zero is gonna go away in 19 days. Okay, but ultimately for most people I think it's like the thing that you want to get is available, you just have to go play the current game to get it. It's more than fine. So yeah, if you buy one battle pass a year and it takes you six months to earn the currency to do it, you can. And it's whatever. I think that's actually a fairly good

Compromise and there and there's no like season zero currency is worth twice as much type, you know No sense or shit So yeah, that's it's ultimately just like if you come back to it after a while Play the current season to earn enough to go back to buy the old that being said I can't believe how good the game is at the free level. Mm it's crazy. It's bananas, in fact. So you haven't been playing anything. How was Holiday Matsuri? So yeah, that went pretty cool. Went down, returned to Florida. And after, so at first, you know, I joked about like, hey, how about that? Waffle house round two, you know, rebel to should we should be the rematch?

And then it was like, OK, wait, where should we go? Wait. And I was like, OK, no, wait, seriously. Are we actually? And ultimately we decided not to. But in lieu of going to the Waffle House for a second round, I did finally get a chance to experience TGI Fridays. Oh, thank goodness it's Fridays! Yeah. And it was during the holidays, so I didn't get to see all the flair that should be worn,

you know, with the pins and such but um yeah that is a fast casual mid-ass menu that delivers exactly what it says and well I wasn't hungry when I left you know it was what what day did you go on to the CGI Fridays I think we went on a Saturday But I think we went on a Saturday. Boo. Yeah, it was fine. It was fine. You know, I kind of, of the places I've tried where I've walked away going, okay, like this is a fast casual chain or whatever, but you know what, that cracker barrel intimidating aura and all still had some pretty tasty biscuits, the the bee dubs the buffalo wild wings yeah okay the boneless wings aka nuggets they had like those oh you mean the throat

annihilating boneless wings why are they thrown annihilators oh you didn't hear about this so there's a dude who ate a buffalo wild wing and like slashed his esophagus on the bones inside it and he sued them and he's like what the fuck you guys said this was boneless and then he lost that lawsuit because the courts in the US decided that boneless wings don't have to have no bones in them. I didn't hear about that. No Okay. Well, um, yeah, that's insane Although you should be chewing your food like to be perfectly on only but that's crazy You're no no no one on God's earth can tell me to chew my food if I don't want to know you can put yourself at

Choking harms risk if you want to but yeah, that is still bullshit You can't ever do you should not be able to advertise boneless and then put an asterisk that says may contain bones that's why I only asked for my pizza boneless god damn that judicial system we so the warnings were clear there was a possibility that the events I described, fighting game charades and sound trivia quiz, might have cringe factor. It's possible. Turns out it was okay.

Oh yeah? Yes, I did cringe test. I did make sure. And actually, no, if anything, I was kind of thinking about how the difficulty might work for people across both. And the charades went really, really well. It was a pretty fun time.

The only downside, of course, is that it was on Friday morning, so not as many people were there because most people get their Saturday passes for conventions and stuff. But yeah, we had a game people came up in teams and they had to the main the key to that game was you don't get to just do whatever fighting game move you think you know how to do and make people guess it because someone coming up there being terrible and just doing a jab or something and being like yeah guess who's or whatever is that's dumb So I made sure to pick the moves and you had to choose from a list of those and then do your best To to take a crack at it and we picked some pretty good ones and

Not to mention we had a system where you could call in an assist and have me or Reggie jump in and then do it. Aw. You know, for you. If you got, if you looked at it and went, I don't know what the fuck this is. And it's like, all right, assist. We'll come out and do it. It was really fun. Obviously, you know the, you know how well it's going to go when somebody goes up and does their best Merkava. Right? That's, that's our long-armed under-knight. That's tough, man.

But it worked, you know? Pretty good. Same thing for sound trivia, which is up now, actually, on Willy Vs. the Algorithm. Is the erguez noise in there? It sure is. The first half second of the noise, the bit! And sure enough, people went, oh god, that, yes, and totally got it.

That's awful noise. The first frame of the Urgeis noise was enough for people to get it. So yeah, that worked out. And we gave out some prizes for folks to go to the artist's alley. So no, those events were a lot of fun. It is interesting, because balancing things for difficulty, even if you pick the easiest noises, which like- Oh, it's tough, man.

So some noises are super easy for people, but the person next to you has knowledge that you don't so the person that's heard the wheel of fate is turning a thousand times has not heard the intro drums to third strike you know yeah and you're both like oh oh oh but then your blind spot is right there and it's like that's why the goal was get three in a row you know and yeah I love that feeling of seeing like you know your anime games super well, but like Certainly they existed those blinded by ambition is flying right overhead. You know So yeah, those those were a lot of fun

What else went on ProzD was there finally got to finally got to go say what's up And that was nice, you got to go say what's up. And that was nice, just like, hey yo, hey, burp burp. How's King Dragon? Hanging out, doing his thing, doing all right. Nice fellow. And then I decided to roll for some IRL gacha. Oh yeah, I saw that. I saw that shit. So I walked by the 10.0 booth.

And 10.0, they have a bunch of cool merch, including I got this buckler shirt and some other cool stuff that they have from different fighting games. And one of the things they got is the third strike pins of certain characters doing certain moves, but they're blind boxes. So I'm like, I see an Aegis Reflector, I see a Hyakuretsu kick, you know, and then Makoto, you know, doing her Fukiage.

And I was like, okay, well, let me, you know, most of these are pretty cool. There's only a couple things here that I wouldn't necessarily want, but it's fine. Let's roll for it. And I opened it up. And yeah, sure enough, it was a YUN activating Ginegen. And it was the super rare version that had the Ginegen ghost colors on. And it's like the hardest one to get. And I'm like, motherfucker, I don't want this. This is what defeated Chirithy in Third Strike this year at EVO.

Oh, fuck this thing. I hate this stupid thing. You know? And then it was like, all right, let me just go two more. And then I get a Dudley and then I get another Yunn. And it's like like son of a bitch come on you know and that's when Reggie was like I'm just too good damn and then Reggie was like all right no fuck that I'm going in and Reggie grabs two

and then it's another two Dudleys and then our friend who was with us she grabs another one and it's another YUN and like by the end it's three guns and three fucking Dudley's. I'm just like what is this shit man. Well you thought either you can either just pull one or keep pulling till you get what you want. I'm reminded of the devil may cry diamond distributing toys from like DMC one where it was like you get one Dante per case and 19 puppets. Yeah, so fucked up.

Shit. Um, everyone hated every store owner was like, fuck this company after that. Um, so yeah, I'm like, where's, where's my pity system? What's going on? And they're like, ah, that's what it is. I'm like, God damn it. So I tweeted that out afterwards. I just took a picture and I went, fuck, gotcha or whatever.

And then Ultra David, who's like of 10.0 is just like, thank you for your patronage. We appreciate your stick to it of this. I just promoted the Black Friday sale on a couple videos for y'all. What the hell? You know, but it's like, yeah, all right. They know they know that Third Strike is for the people that want it. And they know that, like the chances of somebody coming out for this merch and being a whale, if they even notice it, are high.

This long after the fact, if you see Third see third strike merchant you're getting in there you're probably looking to whale it. But then Hanzo, Gonzo, thanks Hanzo behind the scenes was just like hey I told if you head back over there I told them you can you know you can just just to grab one out there for you so the pity system actively act actually the pity system wasn't really a pity system it was a pity slash friend system it was a it was a influencer slash friend slash FG like I know a guy I know a guy in the back 100% absolutely so you've transcended like the pity system to just straight Yes, exactly. 100%. Absolutely. So you've transcended the pity system

to just straight pity? Just like, oh no, oh. Well, I got my goddamn pin, and you know what? That battle pass. And that's what matters. That battle pass wasn't too bad in the end. Yeah, this game's alright. I'ma keep playing. Fuck, man.

I was like, can't you at least do the thing where you do the x-rays and then you package them together so that you have a set that guarantees the full set if you wanna go all in? No! No. Anyway. Just keep buying until you win. So we did that and I guess there was a bit of a lag hiccup, but yeah.

Yeah, I know, it happened on my end too. Okay. Seems all right. Ah, don't worry about it. Keep an eye on it. Yeah, went out with a couple folks, Diyosama and Kitsune Star took us out for Ethiopian food. I've never had Ethiopian food.

Oh, Paige is crazy about Ethiopian food. Yeah, I didn't know. I mean, it was pretty good. I kind of, the only, like I remember once, there was a lady who was braiding my hair when I was younger and she was kind of, she asked me to like, she's like, Oh, do you want to stay for dinner? Cause it's taken a while and it was like sitting around with the communal eating thing. And you know, you

just kind of do it with your hands and those like, I'm good on that. Um, it was, uh, yeah, it was, it wasn't like during COVID or anything, but it certainly wasn't particularly sanitary vibes. It's good for you, man. Come on. But what you get when you go to the actual cuisine restaurant is your own thing to hand pick out of and sanitizer as well. So they obviously have that part covered.

But you get some really good, yeah, you get a soft bread to just pick things up with. And it was great, it was great. Like it reminded me of like grabbing like nan and eating a curry with it type of thing. So yeah, if you've got an Ethiopian food place and you've never tried it in your neighborhood, consider that, it's different. We also got to, oh yeah, Ventus Fury,

really nice gentleman that liked, it was the person that originally turned me on to Bucky's. Right, okay. When first preached about the good word of Bucky's, came back with a bunch of stuff, like just box full of, got a cyberpunk guide and a board game that's like called react just like a fighting game board game or something to check out.

So thank you very much for that stuff. Very very kind. And another another kind person came up and handed me the infinite and the divine a Warhammer 40k love story. So I might crack this open at some point and find out because the pitch was pretty cool. It was basically something about like, what if two salty immortal fuckers were after one thing? What's it called?

The Infinite and the Divine. Oh, Is it? Yes. You mean that book page has been ranting and raving to me about for weeks and just went on a book club to talk about? Like literally yesterday? This exact one? Oh yeah, Infinite and Divine, Tras and the Infinite. That's the one.

Yeah, okay. Well shit, that's the one yeah, okay? Yeah? Well shit, that's awesome. How about that timing so it's pretty good then yeah page went on the numbskulls Did a little book report about that. I think that came out yesterday. Well there you go, okay? Yeah, I was told that this is if you this is the good one. If you wanna- It's apparently super incredible. Okay, okay. That, it's incredible, Willie, you'll love it. Okay, I don't know when I'm gonna crack it open,

but the pitch of like, if you're gonna check out some of this lore, this is an awesome place to start, and also, yeah, just again, two immortal salty fuckers going after it. So I have not personally read the book, but I now know many people who have. And I have been told there's one problem with reading that book is your introduction to 40K. It never gets that good again.

That book is really funny in a way that 40K books are not. Are not, yeah, yeah, okay, right. really funny in a way that 40k books are not. Yeah, yeah, okay, right. It's the introduction, but also from here you're in. It's also the weird one. And it's all downhill. No, no, not downhill.

It's just like, it's not like a gut buster the way these two shitty old robots are. Okay. Damn, what the hell are the odds of that? Unless it was, unless it, you know what, this might have been a coordinated two-prong attack, perhaps. Maybe, but 40K's time is now. Okay.

Well, duly noted, I have put it aside, so I'll take a look. And yeah, I think beyond that, it was a good time. They had CEO Taku at the same time down there. Did you win? I compete. I'm working. I'm doing multiple events a day.

So you would have, but you were busy. I was very busy, that's correct. So I let someone else take a crack at it. There was a really cool dance arcade machine I saw that apparently has been a thing for a couple years now, but I've just never come across it. It's a Konami game called Dance Rush. Konami has been like post-EDRR has been keeping it up and releasing new games and one-off things, but pretty much exclusively to Japan or round one. Dance Rush, huh?

So if you're in America and you're like, you have round ones near you, then that's awesome. You're lucky you have the opportunity to play these games still. But otherwise, if you live anywhere else like we do, fuck off. That's not happening. But yeah, Dance Rush Stardom just caught my attention because it's like. There's no buttons.

There's no buttons on the dance mat, right? So if you want to DDR it, it's all about where you are horizontally on this large light up touch mat, pressure sensitive. That's crazy. And so note charts are coming at you that sway from left to right. And it asks you to put your left and right feet in position

and move them around and step and slide and sometimes jump or crouch according to what's coming at you on the note chart. But the end result of like what it's sending at you Teaches you how to shuffle. Yeah, I'm watching two guys Play it right now and like they're they're shuffling all over the fucking place. Yeah, it's not just that it's not like oh, hey just dance where your whole body thing is there and it's not just like the You know do this body gesture

it's like no no no the notes are asking you to learn how to shuffle and then learn how to do the running man and learn how to do a bunch of other actual dances. And it, it's really cool. Um, yeah, it, it, it, it's, it's set up in a way where like, cause the thing about DDR of course, is that, you know, you get to the highest difficulties of that, especially competitively. It starts getting weird. Well, cause you have freestyle and then you have points, you know?

And there's a point where you're just like, this is a billion notes that you're grabbing the bar and going brrr they can just tap as fast as possible. Like, well, this doesn't look like dancing at all. Right, exactly. And like, as you know, the freestyle competitions are where you get to do that. But for these ones, it's not. But here, the actual game is really teaching you like actually how to dance and move and stuff. And I found that pretty dope.

So yeah, it's interesting as hell, very cool. And I'd love to try it out more. But you got to be in America near around one or in Japan and that's it. Because it also turns out that like Konami has exclusively released machines just to this store only. They don't even sell them to like regular arcade operators anymore. Anyway, so yeah, but that's pretty much it. If you came out to HallMAT and I met you, thanks for doing so. Had a good time, very fun.

Me and Reggie got to meet some cool people and yeah, very, very chill overall. Good games on the arcade setups and everything. Saw someone running a really cool hacked rock band with all the music you want in it. Oh, that's awesome. And I'm like, damn, I kind of always wanted that I didn't know it existed but it's like yeah the 360 version with this whatever like literally all I want all all

Everything you wanted it like set by game and I'm like, oh, there's the revengeance fucking OST There's Sonic Frontiers, you know all of it. So it was very cool This week, I am back, I'm recording this. He's back. And I'm going to collapse after this is done. Tomorrow is going to be Christmas. And then depending on how much battery I have left, if I get my energy, we might do a two streams or one stream on Thursday or Friday. Please look to my Twitter and Blue Sky for schedule announcements because we still got

to check out Cyberpunk Phoenix Wright has one more session and 1000x Resist is going on as well. So we're coming back with that. I'm not gonna get a crack at MVCI and Beyond just yet, but obviously that's a big one. Shout outs to Max and crew for releasing a fucking amazing looking, this is the best mod pack I've ever seen for- It's up there.

Just about anything. And like, it's what, like the moment we saw that like, oh, like the Marvel 3 had the ability for people to just like, yeah, throw in your own characters and stuff. I'm so, I'm glad that like Max kind of saw it as like the opportunity, with the same thing, which is like, fuck the individual groups of people making cool things here and there in, here and there apart from each other.

Unite it and make one big awesome effort together. And then got music from Alex Mukalla and Little V and people doing all kinds of new soundtracks, new art for the character logos, and top to bottom incredible effort. So when we get a chance to come back and take a look at that, I will. Not to mention Corrupt, the other fighting game

just came out too. So more about that soon. But yeah, for this week, maybe one, maybe two, maybe zero if I'm dead. I might just be completely collapsed and out of it. Streams later this week. As well as a bit of a season finale for the year of Versus Wolves is coming out too.

So that's going to be on Friday. Check out my schedule to find out exactly when I'm going to go live. And yeah, I might just give a half hearted thumbs up and do like a half Phoenix Wright stream and call it a day. Okay. Well, you need some nap time. Nappy time with Woolly is priority number one. Oh, fuck. What's going on?

All right. So first things first, I don't believe we had a confirmed name at the at the end of last week's podcast But I'm here to tell you That this dude Has been officially named Caboose there you go Nah back that shit up. He was almost trazzled the infinite actually he was Almost knuckles or elbows, but it is caboose What you gonna do? What you gonna do with all that junk inside that trunk?

Because he well cuz when he stands he just he just Throws his ass around yeah all the time and also wooly you were the deal breaker on this When we contacted you so thanks again, okay, okay? Thanks for naming so many things in our household. Hey! You're just a little baby. Good names are good. It's important. The image conjured up of a wide load fucking coming through as that ass is shuffling around is incredible and fantastic. Not to mention mention there's a subtle little red

versus blue in there. Yeah but also when he gets his wheelchair he's gonna look like a little dog train. There's that. There's that. Yeah. Let's see what else is going on? I played Marvel Rivals a lot. Yeah I played, I've started going through the Metal Gear series on stream. That also came out. The Collet- uh, Delta? So that came out last year. Oh, like the collection? The collection came out last year. Okay.

But it was so fucked up. It was super fucked up. I don't know if you remember that. Uh... But like you couldn't run it at good framerates, it had all sorts of control problems, etc. Okay, it got fixed. So it got fixed, so I'm like, okay, fine. This year, in that December to February lull, yes. Right?

Let's do the Metal Gear Solid Volume One collection. And Delta's not yet. Last night, I played, for the first time, Metal Gear One for the MSX. Mm. Have you played, have you played Metal Gear One for the MSX. Mmm. Have you played Metal Gear 1 for the MSX? Yes. Yeah.

Like a million years ago. I was astonished in just how many elements from Metal Gear got recreated going forward down to the microwave hallway. There is a microwave hallway at the end of MG1. So it's kind of funny because like the old the first Metal Gear games like proper not even not the NES but like proper MSX release. MSX! Show you that like Kojima barely tried with the new. Like he kind of just remade those games. The same game like five times in a row.

It was nuts with the same twists and everything. You know, and it's like, it's a reference. It's not a reference. It's the same twist over and over. Yeah, yeah. Solid Snake in particular is like, it's like, wow, just doing it again. Okay, fresh coat of paint.

But it's cool though. It was fucking sick. Yeah Yeah, I know I am Astonished at how solid that game is for 87 Like it like it's one of those things that you kind of backhanded compliment where you call like an old game like wow It's still really playable, right? like There's like it's like got an annoying inventory system with the card keys but still really playable, right?

It's got an annoying inventory system with the card keys, but aside from that, no, it's no complaints. It's great. I remember learning that from, because Ghost Babel was very reminiscent of it, right? And from playing Ghost Babel and seeing like, oh yeah, shit, this design holds up and does work and My hope is that like okay. We're in a future where Kojima has gone his separate ways and that's that's understandably what it is

We're gonna see Delta come out here and you know David Hayter is like the face of the series now There's undoubtedly going to be more effort to revitalize this franchise and make some money that Konami is going to put forward. I'm imagining they're going to go back to these games likely and try to spruce them up before they give an attempt at something original, which might go horribly sideways with an MGS6, you know? I would expect we would see the second volume of the collection first, being 4 and Peace Walker.

4 on PC. But like, Pops and Acid deserve to live also and ghost people there are other games they can resell that they can port then that can be freed this is true but like once once we're past the efforts of like porting everything locked I imagine the safe move would be okay we did okay, we did Snake Eater, and, you know, didn't fuck around with it too much. It's like literally just the same, even like the same voice clips, right?

Everybody's getting paid again, and we're keeping all that. So this kind of thing where like, Metal Gear original and Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake could be like proper buffed up into more. I think, I think remaking Metal Gear 1 and 2 is kind of a ridiculous idea considering Metal Gear Solid and Metal Gear Solid 2. So Metal Gear Solid is a remake of Metal Gear 1 and 2 and Metal Gear Solid 2 is a remake of Metal Gear Solid 1.

So like in canon! Yes, and the problem is, if you try to make it fit into the existing timeline and such and go back and retcon things aggressively, you're gonna run into huge problems where it was not supposed to be this. These games are sequels, but also replacements. But I think if an attitude of just like, fuck it, we're remaking the first one, shut up, is still one way to go about it.

And I would rather, personally, I would rather that than the original Crack at Six. Metal Gear Survive had an original story and we heard about that. Metal Gear Survive would have been fine if it didn't have Metal Gear on it. Like there are parts of that game that are cool, but the fact that it's like the aftertaste

of firing Kojumbo, like that thing was doomed. And then your secret ending that fits all the pieces together is fucking wild. But yeah, I could just you know, I could see the the an attempt that is basically like the the the reimagining and or like, don't worry about how it fits in. We're, but you know, we're sprucing up those old games, you know what they should do? They should fucking remake Snake's Revenge. That's what they should fucking do. That would be fucking cool.

Completely non-canon fucking... But to do that and ignore the others completely? Yeah, no, do that! No! New timeline going off of Snake's Revenge! Brutal. That hurts. New timeline going off of snakes revenge brutal that hurts Right the one that had nothing to do with Kojima. Yeah, God he says it's cool He says he thinks it's cool actually actually a ghost babel like you know Remake could I could rock as well mm-hmm. I still I still fucking love that But anyway, but yeah metal gear. Hey

Metal gear is good I played a little bit of metal gear for the Ness last night and was planning to go through it until I found out that After the intro it's like literally the same exact game, but worse. Yep. It's so the intro it's like literally the same exact game but worse yep it's so I'm gonna just skip it there go straight to Metal Gear 2 tomorrow on Christmas which was the plan because Metal Gear 2 takes place on Christmas takes place on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day no shit yep I. It is one of the only Christmas games. Bayonetta 2? Bayonetta 2 is also Christmas. That's Christmas. And Yakuza 1 and 5 are also Christmas.

Cool. All right. There's not that many there are really there are really not that many Home Alone for the Ness Parasite Eve Die Hard the Die Hard next pain sure Arc of Morrigan's really I didn't know that My that's been going on true, what's that Miles Morales? Oh, yeah, that's a career. Yeah, okay So that's what's been going on on video games been playing a lot of fucking Rivals that came so goddamn good And I also went back and played some D&D and I have a D&D story for you Wooly that I would love to hear your opinion on So if you'll excuse me little caboose

on. So if you'll excuse me little caboose. Okay. Alright, so in our group there's the DM, there's me, there's Paige, there's the Paladin and the Fighter, which are not part of this story, and then there's a third person, let's call them Jimmy. Let's just give them the fake name of Jimmy. Random name out of the ether. Random name.

Okay. I heard some drama went down, let's go. So we do session zero, and in session zero, we're all like, hey, I'm gonna be Paladin, hi, I'm gonna be this, you know, that kind of thing, right? And we're trying to do that. And I sit there and I say, hey. I'm taking notes.

I have a bunch of different ways I can play my character everybody The only thing I want to know What are you playing so that I don't play the exact same? Character and I speak to the DM about like my idea and I go all I want is to not play like the same class as somebody else. If there's a paladin, I don't want to be a second paladin. If there's a cleric, I don't want to be the second cleric, right? That's your only specified? That is my only ask because it is my first game.

Okay. Right? And then I asked Jimmy, Hey man, what are you going to be playing? And they won't tell me what race their character is, which is kind of weird right off the bat and actually just refuses. Uh, and then says, I'm thinking of playing a bard like character. Okay. Uh, I'm not playing a bard. I want to play a warlock. And that works out well. We've got a paladin, a fighter, a sorcerer, a warlock, and a bard. Okay, great. Now that's

a lot of chah. That's a lot of charisma. But okay, fine. And then we all roll our stats and talk about our stats and where we're going to put our stats and, you know, I'm going to put this here. And that goes fairly well. And then we run three or four sessions in which Jimmy has a problem. And the problem with Jimmy is that Jimmy is a DM for other games. And that is a problem because when I turn to the DM of our game and go, Hey,

am I rolling insight or this or that or how does that work? Jimmy jumps ahead before the DM can say anything and answers for him, which then precludes me going, no, but DM what is the answer to my question? Okay, a little over eager on that. And also, he also gets some stuff wrong, so it's not even like particularly helpful, that's like an answer. And then- Eager and wrong. Eager and wrong, so kinda like me. So kind of like me sometimes, honestly.

Gotcha. Okay, okay. But on top of that, on top of that, when other people are roleplaying, he starts to roleplay his character on top of your scene by just talking over you. Okay. Okay. Right. While you're talking. Yeah. While you're talking. Okay. Like interrupting you to talk about your thing. Okay. Okay. And it's not too bad. But again, these are private sessions, right? Yeah. Yeah. He's just playing. These are mean meat space. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Got you. And I should mention that he talks over page more specifically oh And page happens to be the only lady at the table. I don't know if that has to do it Who knows interesting observation? Okay, right so

Okay, so we continue blah blah blah and After this so he does he's not super active unless someone else is talking. And then in the Facebook group chat that we use to schedule it, we'll just dump like 2000 word pieces of fanfiction about what their character did when we couldn't see them Okay, okay got it right like pages pages of shit And Okay, okay, that's that's crucial. That's big Okay, so then we go to the last session the last session that we were at. Okay, so We so me and Paige don't know some of the players here very well, right? They're people that showed up for the game like we know the DM fairly well, but like we don't know the Paladin fairly well

Right. Yeah, so the Paladin starts telling us stories about his ex-wife and these are crazy. These are crazy stories and we are like enraptured and we're making a rapport and we're having a good time and this is the beginning of the session. This is the setup, right? So like the DM is like in the toilet. I think he was taking a shit while we're discussing this, right? So, you know, taking a shit while we're discussing this, right? So, you know, making friends, chatting it up, that kind of thing. And Jimmy slams his hands on the table, goes, guys, we only get so much time to do D&D a week. Can we please just focus on Dungeons and Dragons, to which I say, dude, and I say, I think it was DM is inherently social experience, like we're having a social experience. Also, the DM is not in the room. Oh my God.

We're not slowing down the game, because he's not here. And he stands up, and he mutters under his breath, what I think he said was, guess I'm just a fucking asshole then, and storms out of the room to go angrily smoke weed outside. Okay, okay, got it. go angrily smoke weed outside. Okay. Okay. Got it.

And he comes back in high as balls. Like nothing happened. Like that interaction didn't occur. Oh no, the road trip is already on its way. Everyone got in the car and we're moving. Yeah. We're going. So yeah, so. You didn't know who was in the car. So hey, can we please focus on D&D? I say it's social. Paige says, hey, don't worry about it. And then on the way out, he mutterly anger, like mainly to Paige, but to the fucking asshole and go like panic smoke some some reefer.

Does right. DM way in at all. So DM is coming back into the room as this is happening and was like, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. So the session starts straight up. This is the talkie overest, interrupting-est session of all. It is so extreme that, okay, so I'm gonna back up. You know me and Paige fairly well.

We don't have problems with conflict, particularly, speakie talkie conflict, right? But this is a D&D game and this is like a new group of people and we don't wanna do that thing that we do where we just solve the problem, right? Because then this person will just dip and then it might be like a whole thing. Right? So we're socially feeling out where we're being real careful not to step on toes and be kind and being normal, yes, okay. But it got so bad that I had to at one point go, I am asking the DM for his ruling on the rules.

I'm not asking you, first of all, I'm not talking to you, but I'm not asking you for the rules as written. I'm asking the DM what his decision is on this rule because he's the fucking arbiter of table. Right? Okay, okay. So that all ends up, but whatever, we actually have a really good time, all things considered.

And then at the end, hey, we're using milestone XP, so we level up. This is the first level up. We're going from one to two. It's a big deal. So it's a good milestone. And we go, yay, blah, blah, blah. And we're like, okay, so then we're driving home because Paige is picking up and driving Jimmy and one of the other guys, because they don't have cars. So we

are doing them the favor by bringing them to the D&D location. And I'm sitting passenger and Jimmy is sitting directly behind me. Right? This is important. So I go, oh, cool. We're going to level up. What are you guys going to do with your level ups? Right?

Because I have this, this and that, and you have this, this and that. And the fighter starts talking about what they want to do and they get action surge and they're excited about having action surge. And the fighter starts talking about what they want to do and they get action surge and they're excited about having action surge. It's very normal, right? And I say, oh, I'm probably going to put points in this. And the Jimmy says, oh, well, you know what? I'm not sure what I'm going to do with it

because all I have to attack is Eldritch Blast. And I go, but you're playing a bard. You don't have Eldritch Blast. He goes, ah, well, maybe I'm playing a warlock. And I go, I'm playing, what, what, well, what subclass are you going to be playing is like, Oh, I was thinking about great old one warlock. And I go, I'm, I'm playing great old one warlock. We talk, I talked about this at, at session zero and I go, okay, so what, what? Okay. So I'm like, I'm like trying to figure out, like, so what, what, okay. So I'm like, I'm like trying to figure out, I like, so what, what invocations are you? Cause the main, the main thing you would get as a warlock to differentiate

yourself as invocations, what invocations are you going for? And he goes, I'm thinking about pact of the tome because there's a lot of good cantrips in there. And I go, that's the one that I picked. And you know that because I've been using those, those can't, like, and I'm just sitting here going like, out of 12 classes, it's mine. Out of four subclasses, it's mine. Out of, out of 12 invocations, it's mine. So I'm sitting here. I'm like, it's the same character. Like this is like mechanically. This is the same. It's the same. It's the same character. Yeah. And I get home

and I'm like, okay, you know what? I'm going to pull out my phone. I'm going to go onto the Facebook. I'm gonna go, Hey, what skills, you know, like deception, are you aiming for? Because I was planning to be a skill monkey. I, you know. Entertain the farce further, by all means. And he goes, oh well, just, if you don't want overlap, just don't be sneaky or sleight of hand or anything like that because I'm gonna go

for a disguised character. And I'm like, so my whole character's backstory is that he's poor so he has a stealth advantage and I was the one who did all the sleight of hand checks over the past three sessions so like, oh, so it's everything. It is literally every single mechanical decision that could be is the same. And there's been three sessions so far so there's a chance for all this to be discovered by the whole thing.

Yeah. Where everyone knows the deal. Yep. And I'm like, okay. So. Yeah, yeah. So let's stop here, let's stop the story here. Sure. I was in bed staring at my ceiling, just like fuming, like falling asleep, pissed off.

Okay, okay. Just like outraged. You, first of all, for your first game ever, this is the worst possible beat. This sucks, because this guy exists, right? A detail of importance. Most of us are using the D&D Beyond app. The D&D Beyond app in the campaign menu

lists your character's name, profile picture, class, HP, passive perception, et cetera. So it's visible. It's clearly visible. Except this Jimmy just isn't actually using the app. He's just singularly deciding not to use the app because of okay secret all right my verdict is yimby that is oh I knew you were drawing Yimby! I knew it! That is what I am calling right here.

So you have unfortunately just landed, you rolled a one in terms of luck. Wild, absolutely bananas. The person you're going to be playing the fucking game with. Crazy. That's insane and sucks because you hear stories about this type of game. This is actually multiple different subtypes of that guy combined into one. And like, what I can't tell is are you hearing like a petulant bitch who's mad about getting a talking to, right? And the fan fiction and all that not being taken

seriously and just, you know, like, is this retaliatory or is it just, that's cool, I'm that, right? Is it just the actual child brain? So I'm of the belief. So there's a detail that I didn't put out that he started his character is pretending to be a bard as a warlock because their character as ever since they were a little child has dreamt of being a in-universe influencer, which has also raised a heckle. Now, what I believe is happening here is that this person? Influencer warlock has been a meme over the past year I don't know you're probably not familiar with that, but influencer warlock has become a meme alongside stuff like

lawful good necromancer and chaotic evil warlock who has an angel as a patron. Just like sure. Sure. Goofy little funny funny bits. Yeah. Yeah. Me. Right. Yeah. Okay. So I believe that this is a combination of a wild lack of originality and horrible coincidence. And here's where the horrible coincidence comes in because my options in this kind of interpersonal conflict are go up top, talk to the DM, see how this can be resolved. I asked the DM, hey man, so I asked you in person four times that all I wanted was to

have a unique character. Did you know that he was rolling this thing? He's like, yeah, but since your characters are different, I didn't think it would be a problem. And I go, but it is a problem. And I, I, I'll admit, I typed out like an essay. I typed like, you know, when you're like, when you got it and you're just like, fuck it. I typed out this massive essay that's like, but now my mechanical and narrative opportunities in this D and D game are as the other warlock,

which is not appealing to me. But also the two primary ways to deal with this type of double class situation is either to have characters be entwined in their backstory like coworkers or intentionally antagonistic style rivals, which I don't want to do because I don't like this person because they keep talking over me. Right. Right? Like if Paige and I wanted to roll double wizard, yeah, I'll fucking like shit fight double wizard all day because it's my wife and I know how to back and forth

with her, right? And how did our captain respond over here? Is he gonna fix it? Or did he not notice that that pixel? The DM offered profuse apologies and we actually ran into him at the grocery store like this morning. Okay. Not planned,, uh, we actually ran into him at the grocery store, uh, like this morning. Okay. Uh, not plan just like, Oh, hey man. And, uh, the long and short of it is that I get, uh,

I got a free reroll on the whole character. Um, because we, we, but everyone is aware that trying to force Jimmy to change anything about his character is going to result in some kind of interpersonal disaster. And I am just gonna, I am just gonna fucking dodge that bullet right now. And I just completely rebuilt the entire character and change what I needed to change in the background to be a cleric instead. There's no cleric. I kept all my roles from the original session and I re slotted them and changed the backstory to be appropriate. Okay. Okay. So on top of that, the DM feels very bad that while also like not like allowing this to happen, he actually disallowed a character

race for page's character because it would require more work. But now he realizes that he could fix it. So page is going to be able to change her character to something much more appropriate at a later date in some narrative event. So she's super happy about it and like we're tweaking all the backstory and all that crap so that it it works. Okay I have also gone to the trouble of writing in some racism into my character's backstory because Jimmy is clearly playing as a changeling which is a type of fey and we're playing a campaign in the fey wilds so I'm just going to insert some anti-fey racism into my character's backstory which is going to give me a narrative and mechanical reason

as the only party member with healing to just never ever heal this person for the entire campaign. Just never. Okay. That's a hell of a response, Salvo. So here's the thing, I guess. You're a part of a group, right? Yes. So there are others who are perceiving this bullshit going down and like, can see what's happening, right?

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do they have feelings on the matter? Like? Paladin doesn't come with us in the car, so he missed like 99% of this. Gotcha. Okay. And the fighter is too chill. You know those people that are just like too chill? Okay. Okay.

They kind of let everything go and always have like a smile? He's just super chill. Because like, I mean, I know like circumstances, you know, you don't, you do what you can with what you got in your role with the punches, which you have designed here. For me, just based on the types of stories that I know about people that behave that way and like that from friends I know that play D&D as well and have talked about these types of people, like the get out and storm out of the room person is like they leave or we all leave.

So here's where I'm at. You can't play nicely with that person because inside no lessons will be learned. The same mistakes not only will continue to be made, but they just escalate because that person's an asshole. And so here's where I'm at. This is a slightly more complex situation that I'm usually dealt with. Yeah.

The D&D community in my area, lots of people know each other. And with this being my first game, I do not want literally my first game ever to be marked with me forcing someone to get kicked out or storm out Understandable absolutely will follow me forever. That is a very very Shitty outcome to yeah Starting this out the bad beat roll now what we can do Is finish this campaign and when they're like, do you want to take these characters

and roll them into like, what's the space one? Starfinder? Whatever, I forget the name. Spelljammer. I'll be like, nah. And then just workshop a new game with the DM with highly highly similar group of people maybe plus or minus sure a little bit sure yeah okay um roll with do what you gotta do um you know there there's there's there's like to add to two bonus details here that I did not I did not know until page told me because pages is like more into the chat boards and whatnot in our community. And that's basically, Jimmy routinely goes,

Hey man, does anyone want to play Blood Bowl in like the massive group chat to crickets. And that was, now that is more clear as to why that is. People know. Yeah, there's no way people don't know. That much is clear. And the other thing is like, you know, please look forward to the session where the two characters in game are talking at each other and it stops being meta.

And the real conversation starts happening in game. So you know what the fun thing is? Is that somebody in the chat said, wow, this guy must really suck to cosplay racism. And the fun thing is, is that I actually really hate the Fae in Dungeons and Dragons specifically. That like race slash enemy type is my most hated monster type of all. They're awful because their whole kit revolves around crowd control, which means that when you fight them, you lose control of your character

and your turns get skipped. And you have to play all their little, oh, I didn't say this and it's iron and all this shit. Like, I fucking hate the Fae for real. So I just decided, you know what, I'm just gonna put my real fake racism into my fake real character. You are Antifae. Okay into my fake Real character you are and TFA

And you are marching it loudly that's good I like that Also, because I'm playing a light cleric. This means if we do hit fifth level. I will be able to cast fireball which means I can Cast fireball incorrectly I can cast Fireball incorrectly to humorous effect, because Fireball is a 40 by 40 foot cube of flame. Which, I'll save you, casting it on somebody in melee range means that mistakes can occur with 86. And Paige is also around for, Mistakes can occur with 86 and and Page is also around for if things ever get a little too heated

She I like she can throw the system is as needed here and there the the system that is The DM should handle it because if the DM doesn't handle it, then I will handle it. And if I don't handle it, the wife will handle it and we want to stay away from that course of events. That is the last resort. Oh my God. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Again, I just playing with other people in person is just so interesting I mean I've heard about that person in the group of people I know that plays that were like oh fuck that never again in fact some of the old

Club space people know some of the same people and such so you might know club space people are some of the same exactly So you might even you might even know. Well, some of the whole club space people are some of the same people. Exactly. So you might even know. But it's just like, yeah, that's the worst possible introduction man. That sucks. So I am currently super excited for the next session. I'm so excited. I'm excited to play a game and I'm excited to fucking rubber neck my own life. But there is a genuinely just super very happy ending to this. So I have a bunch of friends that I play the Final Fantasy 14 with and they all run D&D campaigns constantly and have been for years. And I've always been invited, but I never went because of my experience in my twenties where people telling me that I ruined their campaigns.

I was like, well, I don't want to ruin my friends campaigns. Right? Okay. Now that I have been in a D and D campaign with that guy and been like, Oh, that fear was totally unfounded. I have reached out to my buds and be like, the next time you guys run a campaign, if there's a spot, put me in coach. I would very much appreciate that. So that, that is going to be in the, the near future. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I think the most telling bit is the, it's, it's the bit, it's the like DM, like paragraphs, you know, that off game time, like that's where you're at. Like that's the person that's like everyone, I'm a protagonist and I'm, I should be like, that's the focus that they want it to be on. That's what they're hoping everybody's reading and keeping up with.

I'm actually the hero, but I don't have the personal confidence to act out all this in front of a table full of people, so I'm going to just type it in the Facebook messenger. And it really is that like, oh, something cool someone else did? No, I did that. It's the, I, yeah, my main character is a hedgehog that moves really fast, actually. So I'll tell you what, though, there is a dividing line. This is a very strange situation. Because I was planning on playing what's called a goo warlock, a great old one warlock, I'm familiar with the class mechanically and what we are likely to encounter.

There is a line in the sand that I will drop this game on. Great Old One Warlock has the potential for the worst main character party griefing possible because at level 3 they gain the ability to telepathically communicate with anyone they want. Which means if the player wants to and the DM does not stop them they can initiate conversations with NPCs that the rest of the party can't hear. Which means we will be forced to sit there and listen to a one-way conversation for however long it has to be. And if that starts to occur, I am out of there. Well, I am gone.

On the plus side, fortunately, since they don't have an original thought in their head, they're not going to be able to think of that type of thing. Maybe, maybe not, yeah. Unless, of course, current clip notwithstanding, you just put the idea in the ether and it might land on ears, that might suddenly get the idea. But regardless. I don't think that's a...

Then yeah, right? The entire setup, the whole thing, is you thought of something that you're doing with your character, and someone that can't think of that just goes, I made this. So what you're thinking of might not necessarily occur within the brain that didn't put the rest of it together that's quite a that's something that's oh yeah D&D in person is super fun yeah man it's so it's so

interesting the lowest rung on your ladder is my highest. Wow. Okay. As for me this week on the TV show, let's see, tonight, that's the 24th of December, you're listening to this live or watching this live, Page and I at 6 p.m. Pacific are going to be reading from the Grinch 2 script. So there was a thread on Reddit a little while ago I saw it was what's the stupidest thing your dad ever did. Yes, and one gentleman said that their dad wrote a 91 or 92 page script to the sequel to Jim

Carrey's The Grinch called The Way I See It. All stolen jokes. And gets drunk every Christmas and says that the only reason it didn't get made into a movie is because his family didn't believe in him enough That's the way I see it And then posted The whole script that's phenomenal so Paige and I will be reading for that will be reading from it this Christmas Eve Hell yeah Tomorrow's Metal Gear then I'm gonna have chat help me get back in a warframe and then more Metal Gear, then I'm going to have Chat help me get back into Warframe,

and then more Metal Gear at the end of the week. That's over at twitch.tv slash Pat stares at. Okie doke. Quick break, and we'll BRB. Alrighty. I have an addendum before we continue. Yes. It should be noted that Jimmy, from the former story,

Pat's D&D experience, also is the guy at the table who smells. I see. Just straight up. Okay. Here, I have a yellow highlighter. I will add a couple stink lines to the yard. Just a quick, there we go.

Oh yeah. There we go. Got the highlighter stink lines and everything. All right? Oh not weed, no it's body odor. It's take a shower stinky. Perfect. All right.

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and I wave goodbye. Oh, he can't tell you're laughing All right, so um Yeah, I thought it was gonna be a light week, but there's a couple things going on Talk speaking of dogs How about crypto the super dog you know what you don't have that Superman trailer? That Superman trailer looks great because it has all that stupid Stupid Superman shit in it there you go right? I'm like you can't possibly have beef with crypto the super dog

Like I saw a guy Gardner, and I'm marking out cuz guy gardeners fucking sucks guy gardener is the ultimate It's the best. I'm so happy they went that way and furthermore it's Nathan Phileon Which is a perfect thing cuz I'm like, okay last time we thought is he gonna be Nova Is he gonna be Nova because clearly he works with James Gunn and he could just be could just jump in if he wanted to And it's like no he's not gonna be and it's like oh you're gonna be a lantern You're gonna be because you've got that face you could be is I'm gonna be fucking guy Terrible hair fucking haircut, so it's like okay. He does not want to be anyone cool He specifically wants to be lame and that's great because yes guy gardener the absolute fucking asshole

With a heart of gold yeah, but but just a fucking lame idiot. I love it huge jerk But he's buddy, but but he's he's got it where it counts on the inside I like that we we get to see first of all Nicholas Holt is Lex Luthor great Nicholas Holt's awesome but we get to see him in like What appears to be a Superman based tantrum like he looks like he's a step away from like thrashing around on the ground going I hate superman so much and like yes, please. I would like to see a proper actor throw a child's

Tantrum over how much they hate Superman so I can incorporate that into my heart. There you go And you know what? Hawkgirl sure Why not? Throw that in there I'm not gonna sit here and pretend I can tell you the first thing about Mr. Terrific. I looked him up. I cannot He's the smartest man in the world Aight, that'll do.

But yeah, but yeah, here comes crypto. Now I guess, and I guess the thing is, I don't know what the, if there's rebooted, or what the rebooted crypto origin stories are, or what they're gonna go with. But I sure hope. I mean, there's a dog from Krypton. But I sure hope we just stick with the plan, with the original, the original,

yeah, before we set fucking Kal-El out, we just stuck a dog in a rocket first. But it hit a thing, it hit a comet, and then they got there late. I have a strong feeling that it will never come up once. It's the dumbest, dude. I think looking at this movie and watching James Gunn stuff,

I bet where did crypto come from will literally never come up once. It'll be like, this is just my super dog. He took a blood transfusion and now he's got no nothing nothing. They're Superman's dog. It's a super dog fucking Jor-el Stuck a dog in a ship and liken it into space Expecting it to work before he sent his kid out there. And that's why crypto's a thing. Sure. I think that retroactively adding characters

into a cataclysmic backstory is usually pretty bad, but I feel like Superman, how many people got off that planet, man? Like a bunch, right? There were like, the explosion has like 18 different fucking ships going in different directions. Everyone actually, yeah, everyone had their little pocket rocket ship. It's fine.

Don't worry about it. Shut up. Yeah, let's see. Let's see where it goes. You know, we're about due for a decent, colorful, fun Superman story. We open up the door to the Bat Hound as well. So let's look in, let's go. There's a non zero percent chance we will see Super Dickery based content in this film. Holding up the water. Yeah, no one gets a drop. Or, I always get the planet name wrong, but the...

Do you think Lois will turn into a black woman in this movie? I mean, I wasn't going to imply it, but it might just happen. She might have to get to the bottom of things. You know what, it might just be like the report on her screen when like Clark walks over to chat and she turns around to talk and just on her screen it's just like, I spent a day as a black woman. You don't explain it but you see it on the monitor. Yeah, it's just back there for the comic nerds.

Oh fuck. I wish. I can only pray. Yeah,, that's that's a trailer. You know nothing nothing else to it, but seems cool Oh, I would be very interested in seeing this Superman film Yeah, I'm Forgot the I'm hoping that we see crypto De-throat a monster at some point that would be pretty sick, too Get all that all-star in there Crypto at one point fucking goes ham What did you say?

and goes ham. What did you say? Rip the throat, I said dethrone. Okay, okay. Rip the throat out. Okay, all right. And with that, I guess we have, like, it's not supposed to be like a cinematic universe, Like, it's not supposed to be like a cinematic universe,

but they're going to obviously be able to continue. I don't know what they're doing. I saw James Gunn say, I just wanted to make a Superman movie. Basically. And that's as far as that shit goes. Yes, and he doesn't have the say, but for sure whatever is made will become a cinematic universe because

Money you know there's no way they don't they there's no way they fucking because real money dollars Don't lean in as hard as they can and fuck that up immediately I like there's a lanterns show coming out on HBO and like I don't know the guy garters gonna tie in with that or not But I didn't know who knows man. I didn't know the guy gardeners gonna tie in with that or not, but I didn't know who knows man I didn't know that was a thing anyway We Yeah, virtual fighter news in there, what do you want to say about virtue fighter there was an interview with Yamada about virtue fighter What do you say? There's a lot of details in there. You want the good ones? Sure.

Okay, everybody at Sega loves Virtua Fighter and they were really excited to bring Virtua Fighter back. That's not all that shocking. They are going to have a very large single player story component as part of this Virtua Fighter. And they talk about how they were able to make a really big city very quickly for the trailer and how RGG's strengths will be brought to bear in making this game. So they're going to have like a mini Yakuza series.

Let's see, Kung Fu influence, blah blah blah. I want the very special. There's no special moves is very difficult Lack of character motivations being in the games is a massive problem, and they're gonna fix that yeah That is people just show up, and they're there there's the karate man does karate judo guy does judo Okay, but the the no arcade release is gonna be home only But the no arcade release is gonna be home only. But there is one quote here that is just A plus. Which is, it's not about changing the rules or making...

Hey buddy, hey. It's not about changing the rules or making the screen more flashy. It's about amplifying the appeal of the matches while keeping them plain and serious. Amplifying the appeal? While keeping them plain and serious. AKA boring. Okay, okay, so they won't ask anything of you or simplify anything or not simplify. They're like no new systems but a fresh coat of paint and perhaps some explosions that don't affect your combo.

So they have said that there's no reason that Virtua Fighter can only have three buttons Okay, which is really funny after last week's podcast title that is pretty funny Yeah, I think though we can do like the story mode was gonna be expected It's like this is literally what the studio specializes. Yeah Hey, can you give me a second cuz that dog is gonna break through that door to chase a rabbit or some shit Okay, caboose is boozing All right The boost they also go into that time may have passed

And a lot of time may have passed because you as you can see Akira looks very different So it'll be interesting to see players' feedback as to what they have done with Lao and Shun-D. Those characters are going to be dead for sure. Yeah, well maybe there can be a new Drunken Master. Yeah, probably. I think we're gonna see a fair amount of casts Rearrange and I think that some characters are going to be a new character that just happens to look and sound Identical to the old character a combat kid like Stella basically could do that could do that

Fourth button is just heat. It's probably dodge. Oh They're probably gonna bring the dodge button back, but you didn't need it though Like that because you could literally just like double tap and it was all it it was all there You know it was just a shortcut for something you could already do in a way, but yeah, yeah I don't imagine it would be like a button that changed how old moves worked or anything so you would yeah, man You got it. You got to keep that shit plain and serious. I mean, yeah anyway, we'll see with it, but yeah, none of that too too surprising.

There is a fun detail where they say, they announced the two new projects before Pirates in Hawaii released because they wanted to impress people in the industry with how many projects they're working on at the same time. God, that's not a good metric. That's not really a sign that things are going well. That doesn't mean anything, man.

I mean, it is for them because they're making making ten projects at the same time they all come out good okay well we'll see what happens to fucking crazy taxi and jet set radio yeah but that's not them right that's not our GGG sure sure yeah no I guess the only other bit though is just kind of like, it's clear and understood that this is a vanity fucking ass project. Oh, absolutely. 100%. Like the higher ups at Sega and people in RGG just wanted to do it.

This is for if you're one of the few old fans, if you're one of those crazy Japanese competitors, and or just that one guy that introduced himself on stage, this is for you. This is not expecting to go and crack open the genre and soar to the top of the FGC competitive scene, but it will get its time on Evo stage for sure, you know So it is of note So one of the things in there is like well, we know that younger people know about Virtua Fighter, but they don't really play it And it's of note is that like VF 1 to final showdown is less time than final showdown to now now. Like Virtua Fighter's entire life existed in less time than it's been since Final Showdown came out.

We need like, whatever that third to fourth generation, like amazing quality crunches, you know what I mean? Or like, not third to fourth rather, fourth to fifth. Just that 98 through 2002 insane run on the industry. Any series that started there, yeah, must have an entry for every year. And they're all pretty solid or at least decent. I think they're gonna change some of the stuff and I think you know the waggle for stun Yeah, I think that's gonna be gone. Yeah

Guilty gear got rid of it and I think one of the reasons that if it wasn't gonna be gone before it's definitely gonna be gone now because I don't know if you played any of Revo but of, um, of, uh, of Revo, but, um, because of the way that stagger thing works in Revo, they accidentally gave Eileen an honest to God infinite. Oh, what? So Eileen had down PKP, which was two little taps on your knees. Um, and you had to like frame perfect waggle out of it in order to be able to block before she threw one out again. So for most people it's a straight-up honest-to-god infinite. Oh my god. So that will not be there in end of January. That little monkey girl, she's fun to use. I like her. She went from bottom of the barrel to top tier in Revo.

They changed a lot on her, including giving her an infinite by accident. Virtua Fighter is a franchise that in my brain I'm like, I always just button mashed. I never learned to do anything beyond a couple of recognizable, like oh yeah, I know with the monk, I can kind of do a couple of these inputs consistently, but I am fucking just wailing and seeing what happens. Conscientious smashing, you know? Yeah. Cool.

All right, well again, I can see that things are gonna get a little complex, because it's like alright You always have you know, like when you get to your your evo main stage You always have a Street Fighter you attack in and and you know a guilty gear or some sorts and then you know Mortal Kombat gets its honorary slot or does it? City of the Wolves is going to exist to XKO is gonna come eventually

City of the Wolves is gonna exist, 2XKO is gonna come eventually, and then Virtua Fighter, like, do we just? There is going to be a year in which it's Street Fighter, Tekken, and four new fighting games. So, like, there's going to be, something has to get shut out, is where I'm getting at, right? It's gonna be Guilty Gear. They're gonna pick the group,

and something's gonna get shut out, but but like I don't see that happening with guilty you're still releasing content well then more combat can get into the corner most likely okay how many games is Evo do? Nine you know you'll get you okay Street Fighter although that's actually well I think less now because of the is it six I think it's less now because of this the time sync yeah because of the the timer. Let's say six right yeah Okay, fine. Let's say seven Street fighter and Tekken Right guilty gear virtual fighter. That's four to X KO. That's five You got room for three flex spots.

Yeah, well, so I mean, that's kind of what I was saying is like basically every company gets to wreck its game. And SNK is a part of that as well. Capcom gets a rep. You know, Netherrealm gets a rep. Arxis gets one. Seagull get theirs. But like you have, it would be reasonable to expect if

not KOF then City of the Wolves as an entry there. How do you think Street Fighter players are going to feel, or Tekken players are going to feel when Virtua Fighter becomes like the main game at the Coliseum at the very end? Just annihilates it, right? Yeah, like do you think people are gonna be upset just eats It's fucking lunch. You know damn Harada and tears underneath the shades You know it's really it's really weird how easy I'm finding to say that Like I don't believe it, but I think part of me deep down does and you know what?

I'm happy for you to feel as much joy as you can in this limited period of time. It's a good time. Well, I mean, I'm not gonna be, listen. These moments don't happen often in life. We're currently in the middle of one of them. Listen, I'm not gonna have time. Why would I sit here and rain on your parade?

I'm not gonna have time to feel joy soon because Virtua Fighter 6 will come out and I will enter into the apathiosis of my fighting game desire, which is like enlightenment as I discover how to use the fourth button. There you go. Yeah, again, I just, you know, I'm feeling happy for you, buddy. And, uh, you know, as long as this lasts, let's just enjoy it.

And it's gonna be the best, it's gonna get the most signups, everyone's gonna love it, it's gonna change the face of this game forever. Virtual Fighter is for everyone. Oh, boy. virtual fighters for everyone. Oh Boy it's for everyone fuck sign up numbers who cares Anyway, so alongside that Speaking of imminent releases, hey, you looking forward to picking up Ys X Proud Nordics? No Wooly, I'm not.

Oh, but it's got new features. It does have new features. It's true. It is true. It does have new features. It's an enhanced version of the game. It is a significant upgrade To yeast expert Nordics, but wooly I'll I bought yeast Nordics 40 days ago in October

October 25th. Well, why y'all wait you a plumber? Why you bringing up old shit get the new one announced in December? So time for the new I sent this to you a couple days ago because I Took I couldn't understand why the two dates were so like who the fuck? so cl- like who the fuck announces an enhanced version of an RPG before the average person can even finish playing their new copy? And it was there were translation delays on Ys Nordics in English. So last year the original was it was released or yeah in 2023 exactly. And it took about a year for the translation to come out. So it eventually released in October 2024. And then the announcement for the updated version of the game, proud Nordics was in December, two months later.

So like Atlas, this is like the Atlas trick But the Atlas trick is not two months No the Atlas trick is at least a full calendar year after the global release We give Atlas shit for doing that like a year after you've bought the game and we go what the fuck guys that sucks

This is approaching 42 days This is that mobile game that announced its launch and shutdown in the same tweet. Yeah, yeah it is. Right? This is where we're at. This is like, don't buy Falcom game. Like new.

Like, are you stupid? Like, why? It feels like, how could you not be burned by the scenario if you bought that game? Yeah, Falbcom is known for its annual release schedules. Comparison comparison to Atlas is apt. That fucking. And like, I mean, you could decide to wait, but if you're on that annual release schedule, then you're just like no

We have to get it out now. We have to announce it now. So yeah, everyone just gets fucked by that It feels like shit. Oh, so Someone in the chat says to explain the delays. It's not that Nisa took too long Falcom does not give anyone the script to their games until after the game has come out in Japan not give anyone the script to their games until after the game has come out in Japan. So they can. You can start translating today, the day of the Japanese release. Okay, so that is ridiculous. All right, dinosaurs at work. Yeah, got it. Okay. That is even historically abnormal. Yeah. That would have been weird in the 90s if you were planning to release it in English across the pond.

That just reeks of fuck you, we do it our way stubbornness, and shut up, who cares? Speaking of that shit, how's that PC port of Unicorn Overlord coming along? Is this even news? Is it even news? It's news every time. Hey, guess what?

They're not gonna do it. Hey, guess what? Vanillaware and fucking HPCs, they will never, you can't force them to do it, They'll never fucking do it. Shut up Get your money away from me. Leave me alone I think I think every interview with the people who work at vanilla wear is the funniest interview ever Because the questions always go in the same order. Hey, how was it making your new game? Oh, man, we ran out of money and almost went bankrupt. Do you think you'll ever put it on PC?

No. Like, just holding a keyboard up to George Kameitami and he's like, ah, ah, get it away, ah. Like, I just, yeah, I think I went a little bit hoarse in the throat talking about 13 Sentinels and You you deserve it you deserve it if you don't want to believe then fine all right At least they're like forward compatible digitally now like we'll be able to play sure Sentinels on the PS 6 and stuff like that But you don't ever get to complain about the reception ever again, in my opinion.

You just have to fucking take it. Like they are one, like mid-release away from evaporating. So Vanillaware is being more loyal to Sony than Sony is being to Sony. He's right. more loyal to Sony than Sony is being to Sony. He's right, guys, he's right. The platform holder themselves have had PC releases, even for promotional reasons. I can't confirm this in my own mind,

but I believe when, was it, I believe when 13 Sentinels was coming out, there was an interview in which someone at Sega said that they have offered to just port the games for vanilla ware and vanilla ware said no yeah just dinosaurs at work I, what is there to say? It's this, this type of just I'm bunkering down. I saw a story that someone had tweeted out that was like, in Final Fantasy 2, the Ultima spell is only does like 500 damage or something and is really weak really weak, and it seems like it's a bug,

and then when they asked the programmer who did it to fix it, he went, well, it's an old spell from the past, so it would be weak compared to modern day magic. And then they're like, okay, but can you fix it? And he goes, no. And then in the code code he also made it Obscured so that no one else could then go in and fix it as well so fucking funny

That's really funny what what is this why why do you think this way? That's really good dinosaurs at work Yeah, okay Well look, you know you can stay trapped in the past right in the Triassic era Trying to program there But while you do that, you know, some companies are forward thinking and moving into the future. How forward we talking? Well, I mean, Ubisoft is they're

gunning. They're gutted for tomorrow. Are they? Yeah. Have you seen Captain Laser Hawk, Hawk the GAME. Yes I have. So Ubisoft just released a new game called Captain Laser Hawk the GAME and long story short is you have to purchase an NFT to play it. Oh good. It's it's a that's how you get your profile going and again we are all the way over on NFTs. That thing is dead and gone. It is Christmas Eve today. We are entering 2025 in less than a week. And they're releasing this now.

If anyone had any wonder why we just laugh at this at the word Ubisoft When you say it out loud What the fuck other like what more do you need if it not an assassin's creach like story or if not the the the ownership Shit going on by the way. this is a good idea over here. You get the feeling that people at Ubisoft are disastrous managers and that tons of their projects are moving forward when they shouldn't be or stalled when they shouldn't be, or stalled when they shouldn't be, or on the verge of being cancelled for no reason, and that they're just burning buckets of money literally every

single day going, I don't know what I'm doing. Has the main head been cut off of the thousand headed Hydra and everything is just flailing in its own direction? It's like you cut off the Hydra's ass and a bunch of asses spread it up and started shitting all over No, not the main ass Oh My god, we got an assist from dad Asna who found a banger tweet from Ubisoft who found a banger tweet from Ubisoft.

Rayman Together, I don't know who this is, probably a fansite, says, what a way to destroy the positive reception of your new brand and frustrate your community. To which Captain Laser Hawk Universe official responds with, it's a Captain Laser Hawk game, not a Rayman game. Anyway, Rayman belongs to us. We can do whatever we want with them even replace them if needed

That's great energy fucking why that's great energy Oh, no, no, that's that's put that out there. Yep one of a thousand asses Just going in that direction. Perfect. Saying nothing is free. Mind you. Cool. Okay. Holy shit. What the fuck happened? I remember like when Blood Dragon was a thing and it was like, oh, Far Cry spin-off. That's all like Escape from New York and 80s references and synth. That's a fun bit.

And then they had made the whole extra spin-off that was like, they had the, it was, what was the crossover with, not Trackmania, but Trials, right? And then they did a bunch of shit and then like I guess there was the show and I don't know what the fuck any of this is so I have some suspicions as to what actually happened at Ubisoft and it's a ton of different things combining together. The number one of which is Assassin's Creed was really successful. It was like the most successful thing that ever happened at Ubisoft. And two things happened. One, they started to turn every single game they made into Assassin's Creed, like every single one, while simultaneously

firing Patrice Desolais and blackballing him from the entire industry. You know, the guy who made Assassin's Creed, like the director of the really good ones, and the Assassin's Creed's quality started to go down, but it still made tons of money. And then Rainbow Six Siege came out, and Rainbow Six Siege is the start of Ubisoft gassing themselves up because Siege was really successful in the second year. It was and and after that, that's when everything had to be either Assassin's Creed or gas. And what we ended up with was like 40 games a year that were gassed up Assassin's Creed's including Assassin's Creed.

And then For Honor happened. Siege was also their first brazen foray into like nft-ing I think right there was like I think there was an gunskins or Some something with guns they they did like right in the middle of that so And yeah Patrice's He made he was gonna make them that ancestors game, but they fucked him over so bad. It's unbelievable I think just got annihilated.

So to those of you who are unaware, Patrice Desolais was like the lead on Assassin's Creed 1 and 2 and then Ubisoft fired him and then he was under non-compete for a year and then he went to go work for THQ and then Ubisoft bought the dev at THQ that he was working on and then fired him. And took the project that had started. Yeah. And then I think that like overtly personal. Like we're like absolutely clearly personal. I think he did eventually.

He founded Panache and then was working on Ancestors, but that I don't know that we've heard anything from it since but yeah Yeah, um petty bit petty as fuck anyway, um Enough of that shit You guess what's going on in war thunder? What? You'll never guess is it is it?

accidental espionage again is it fucking is it classified shit on the war front Thunder forums again to solve an argument about the accuracy of a Euro fighter jet leaked documents specifying the components of a particular jet were posted on the war thunder forums this time classified from the Italian Ministry of Defense they need to actually pull those those forums down they're gonna that like and not like oh we need to protect military secrets I I mean, like, that game company is like playing

with fucking fire. Like, I am 90% certain that these are just spies trading in info using more Thunder Forms as a cover. But it's so believable that fucking military heads are getting so angry at each other that fucking military heads military nerds are getting so angry at each other that they're like whoa and they're grabbing files off of the intranets that

they work at it's so believable but it happens so often anyway stop it stop it. Stop it. You're gonna get in trouble and not like a little trouble. You're gonna get in a lot of trouble. Pretty short but a simple quip here. Dead Space creators wanted to make a fourth game pitch it to EA this year

EA said not interested yeah dead space remake the first one only sold like a million and a half copies so they're like bullshit that's that and and just just kibosh the second remake and are just not yeah so that's that's just just kibosh to the second remake and are just not yeah, so that's that's just just dead that shit's just dead now It was it was a full full release full price everything right? Yeah, it's all well Just not well enough not well enough, okay Do you have local thunk versus Peggy on here? Not really. But obviously-

Did you hear about that? Yeah, like they're like because your game resembles kind of gambling but isn't- So Bellatra was rated 3 plus in Peggy and then they just out of nowhere rated it 18 plus for no reason. Local Thunk went on the social media and was basically like, maybe I should jam it full of real gambling and loot boxes and bullshit like FIFA does so then you guys would give me a three plus rating. And he's right. Oh, hold on. Clarifying, it was the people that made the Callisto protocol that made the pitch for

Dead Space 4. Oh, well, I wouldn't let them make it either. I see. Yeah, no, that, I would know. Okay, clarifying detail. That is an important clarifying detail. Well, they really tanked that shit out the gate, huh? That is an important clarifying detail. Well, they really tank that shit out the gate, huh?

By the way, I don't know how much of a Callisto protocol you played. It's just a way worse Dead Space. I remember when you reported in on that. Yeah. OK. Wait. Some people are saying no. Glenn Schofield, the original guy. So then that correction was false?

Is that what? No, Glenn Schofield worked on Callisto Protocol. Okay. Did he also work on original Dead Space? Yeah. Okay. And Callisto Protocol is one of those things. Callisto Protocol really did a great job.

So we're talking to Warren Spector, the creator of Deus Ex, who says you shouldn't credit only one person on video games. Glenn Schofield always said, hey, man, I made Dead Space. Dead Space is my baby. I love Dead Space. But then he went and made Callisto Protocol and showed off that he actually doesn't understand Dead Space at all and that it was the team under him that did light lots of the good heavy lifting. Okay, a little bit of a Mighty No. 9 situation. A little bit!

Okay. So, Arcane. Oh man, this fucking story rules. Was a success, but did not translate to new League of Legends players. That's crazy. First season was a big breakout hit, but they didn't have any tie-in content at the time. So they kind of just saw an increase in people making accounts, but they ultimately just kind of left them and didn't really lose much. Do they think it's because there wasn't tie-in content to keep them? Do you think that's why? And so this time around there was a bunch of tie-in content and it was successful by you know audience metrics and yeah it just the I mean the overall cost is the most expensive animated series of course is gonna be very high

to... It's pretty pricey. Right? 250 million I think was the figure and then they were getting like 3 million from Netflix per episode. And then it says $3 million for international as well or for Ereg in China. But one way or another, with all the success of that, the goal of promoting the game and then getting people into the game ultimately did not lead to new players. So I mean, if the thing being successful on its own is like good and means that, yay, you can continue that as its own venture for its own sake, then like it is of course, like way too expensive at that point. But a lot of the time, the tail end on these things, if you can sell or whatever, whatever

the case may be, I don't't know like streamers work differently these days But like a show made at a loss like this if it's very if it's very popular can eventually catch back up But if it's just about getting new players on League of Legends Okay, so there's so many things going on here There's so many things going on here that make this so interesting. Okay, step one. Hey, Woolley, you watched Arkane, or at least some of Arkane. What appealed to you about Arkane?

It was a cool world and the characters were cool and I thought the story- Oh, it was a cool world and the characters were cool? Story was fun, I enjoyed the show. Okay, so what if we gave you a multiplayer game that had very little characterization, no world and no story Well, does that appeal to you? It hasn't done it yet and it continues to not Okay, to boot that thing number two Arcane is it is a like legitimate like so you watched enough of fallout to be like this feels like fallout like You know the vibes, right?

Arcane, the vibes are anything like League of Legends. I didn't see Jinx and Vi struggling to avoid getting banned for calling each other every slur they could think of because one of them went mid, right? Like it's like it's the tone and the vibe is totally different. Number three, there's a bunch of League of Legends spin off games, but none of them take place in the setting that arcane takes place in the RPG by the Battle Chasers guys takes place in the sunken Isles. There's a character action game that takes place in like an ice area. There's the card game. Like none of them are the direct go from arcane to this game. I mean, I would say the bigger one being like story analogs makes sense because

edge runners, I'm sure did its job in getting absolutely over to cyberpunk because Edge Runners has the cyberpunk vibes. Exactly. And you have a big narrative story driven world for you there. Keep those words in mind. But the most important thing, and this is the one that kicks like, it's really funny because like, they're not listening to themselves. One of the reasons they started with all of these spin off games for League of Legends, they talked about this like six, seven years ago, I'll never be able to find the interview, but they said that they believe everybody knows about League of Legends who plays games and they have hit the capacity for people playing League of Legends.

They can't grow anymore because people know about it or have tried it and like it or don't. So what they're going to do is leverage all of these characters to make a wide variety of new games like a card game or an MMO or a shooter to get people into that or a fighting game. So they admit there's no one left to get into League of Legends because League is so big and has been around for so long that like, well, Lee, you know that PUBG shit where we didn't know about PUBG and we're like, ah, right? But you fucking heard about League of Fucking Legends. League of Legends is fucking everywhere. Dota and League are just omnipresent.

So, FFXIV continues to grow with its releasing of these expansion contents and story things that are all, again, big narrative driven and time to jump in is now, updates and stuff. For a game that's not that story driven, I think another point of comparison would be like Fortnite, where they're like, here's a bunch of new costumes and tie-ins and you know.

And they constantly remake the game into new shit and new seasons. And the game, I was gonna say, and the main game itself becomes completely unrecognizable from what it used to be. Does League do anything like that? Not on that scale. Not on on that scale They patch it constantly The league has this feeling of they want to add new characters all the time because that's cool But it has this feeling of they want to fine tune it into like the ideal game, right?

and They're the final thing and this is really important And they're the final thing and this is really important So I scroll on the tik-tok and there's a lot of arcane fan cams and shit like that and people love that that show people Are crazy about that show but every single Piece of social media content you see from somebody who plays league and plays and watched arcane is Don't start playing League of Legends Don't. Don't start playing League of Legends. And I cannot, like I would, I would advise you, Wooly, personally or professionally

to fucking spend the 10 hours it needs to dip your toe in because it cannot be overstated what a miserably antagonistic experience League of Legends can be. It is without parallel. It has no peers. I was going to say that this is a wild development with the franchise because the second story here is that they're making spinoffs. They've announced new League of Legends shows that they're working on, but also direct arcane spinoffs that they're also working on aggressively. So things were enough of a hit

that they're like, let's do more. But this tapestry of league-related side projects all exist, and it seems like the base thing that's built on is the large stagnant pool that might end up feeling the worst for anyone that decides to follow the path to its origins. You know what the best thing about those spinoffs, Willy? One of the things that I brought up is that if they had a direct-relation spin-off game for people to go from arcane to, that'd be one thing. Right? So like if 2XKO was out right now, you could tell people, like

because that's using like the arcane levels and iconography, you can tell people to go over there. So the three spinoffs, they've said where those spinoffs are gonna occur. They going to occur in Ionia, Noxus, and Demacia. All three regions which have no spin-off property to connect to. Okay. Because the spin-off properties are in Freljord and the sunken aisles and cards and whatnot. So they're all isolated things you're grabbing. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I mean, it is something to kind of look and go like, well, if this is working, this is successful and we're making more of it. However, that original goal Of getting you to sign that original goal was was a known Lie to themselves

like this feels like coped for their investors or some shit because like Like before arcane even got greenlit. They're like well everyone we got everybody on the good That's ever gonna go on the we got we got we got to expand and that's what's behind this massive expansion into like ten different genres and games and it's why Valorant is not a League of Legends shooter because they're like League of Legends players don't want to play a fucking shooter so we got to use the same ideas and design elements to make a different different audience. I mean, those music videos drop and I'm like, look at that animation go, you know?

Look at that costume. Yeah, but at the same time, it's like this can also just, I guess, with its existing player base, stay healthy forever. Healthy is a choice word. I would say the last word I would ever describe the League of Legends player base as is healthy. Profitable? There you go. All right. Speaking of profitability, Yeah, where where oh shit, where did that go? Frostpunk creators cancel project eight and layoff staff amid concerns that quote unquote narrative driven story rich games just don't sell. Shut the fuck up.

It was conceived under very different market conditions. So. Shut the fuck up. It was conceived under very different market conditions. Shut the fuck up. I mean, look. No, Frostpunk 2 isn't doing as well as Frostpunk 1. That's what it is. And there was another project, and that is now being, yeah, shut that, everyone's being fired.

The quote, it was conceived under very different market conditions when narrative-driven, story-rich games held stronger appeal. This coupled with revised sale forecast, largely reflecting the changing market environment, raises significant doubts of the project's overall profitability. Okay, so my impression when I hear that is like,

narrative-driven, story- rich games don't sell equals translate through bullshit filter. A we have investors that are demanding gas and mini buys and we need to find the right wording to not upset them. B we're working on something that might have been, I guess, like a walking simulator, but we didn't want to say those words per se or didn't know how to describe it. So in this case, we're kind of just throwing that under the bus. Meanwhile, mouthwashing just came out and rocked everyone. Oh, yeah. You know what? Story games don't tell that to metaphor black myth wukong final fantasy 7 Reaper Baldur's gate we didn't just they didn't just announce the Witcher 4 did they no

CD projects red deal with the fact that Witcher 4 won't sell God of War God of War Ragnarok Oh, that's did bad. Did a stalker game just come out. Yeah, I Don't know if I'd call that narrative driven though stalker games are fucking weird. Okay, well They're fucking so weird. Oh, I love them. Yeah, look if you're not talking and like if you're like hey Well, we're not talking about these triple-a giant releases and things like well Why don't like if you're checking the words narrative driven story rich games and saying like that's the fault That's the reason here You're telling a lie. You're full of also There's like telling the truth

There's an underneath here because like a huge amount of games would be considered narrative driven or story rich Across an enormous variety of genres. So what I'm hearing is that this game was entirely narrative. Like you said, walking simulator. That's the translation, right? Cause it's like, yeah, like obviously like Baldur's Gate 3 being all of those adjectives, but also incredibly in depth in engine and story and gameplay is great. And something that maybe their studio couldn't do, right? You wouldn't want to make that comparison. Same for cyberpunk. It's a massive, expensive, insane thing. So if we're just talking about the narrative element of it,

well, okay. Like I said, we just had a mouth washing. Also, I would say there was a much larger, there is a way larger audience for narrative-driven story rich experiences than there are for post-apocalyptic city builders So and but like that's frostpunk right? This is a this is a whatever other project different This is a different project right, so I don't think it was necessarily the the city builder, but

The like what a stupid excuse. That's just a lie. What a stupid lie like why excuse. That's just a lie. What a stupid lie. That's just a dumb lie. Like why? But maybe some upset or some investors didn't get upset when they heard it and so mission accomplished. Well it's this thing, it's like these people that invest in these things aren't necessarily like fans or enthusiasts about the particular industry. So they don't feel the stupid lie like we do. I can feel the stupid lie in my chest the instant you started to say it out loud Well, yeah, because said people are like well the opposite of narrative story rich driven games is

Multiplayer no story mini by microtransaction service live service sign up We got a we got a great chat comment from pastel hermit says RGG has fucking made 45 story driven games over the past 20 years and they're doing fine anyway pretty pretty good stuff there with that good good reason and I'm sure it feels good to Get laid off hear that as the reason given and then go look at the Game Awards this year and and see the nominees For the in Indy and and story categories And so I want to so there's something I bring up every now and then and I know you've heard me say it a bunch of times

But sometimes people haven't heard it. Usually you would say like his, you know, you can have critics, darlings, and you have Oscar bait and winners and stuff like that, that doesn't necessarily translate into sales, right? Like I don't know a human being saw the English patient, but I know it won a ton of awards, right? Video games are weirdly enough, actually different. One of the reasons why gamers, quote unquote, give reviews such a big level

of importance compared to music, automobile, film, et cetera, is that there has been shown to be a fairly strong positive correlation between high review scores and sales. It is the only creative medium in which there is a direct correlation between positive reviews and good sales and negative reviews and bad sales. So when you look at the games of the year for a particular production, like the TGAs, those games at the top, they fucking did gangbusters. They crushed it. Now, it's not perfect, right?

Okami, somebody pointed out. Yeah, no, Okami, fucking bomb. But by and large, good games tend to do well and bad games tend to do bad things that hit steam and and go into overwhelmingly positive tend to also be Doing financially well at that by that point, but in the metrics I I Kind of yeah The thing is I don't know what like I remember you talked about frostpunk when you played it and I know it was fine But I don't know like what budget level we were talking about here So like, you know double a

Okay, not just not indie completely per se. No in that weird that weird space. Okay It's about as expensive as you could make a city building like narrative game. I Think they hit like the upper level of that budget game I think they hit like the upper level of that budget like the only thing that would be above them is something like like Civ. Cap. Yeah so anyway that's dumb. Speaking of dumb.

Yeah. Oh I mean that that come on we could do any story off that. I know, I know, that was no effort. Speaking of making important decisions based on bullshit. Oh, that's, I mean, that's also pretty broad. But what do you got? This one's a little left field here, but the New York Jets apparently have made hiring and trading decisions informed by low Madden NFL rating,

despite there being interest. Woody Johnson, the Jets owner, has apparently done this before and has impacted player acquisitions on the team based on looking at the score of the player in Madden and using that to affect how they who they side and what and what and how I'm seeing I'm looking up the New York Jets is standings with their own division. Oh yeah. Oh no no no don't don't do that. It's not good. Don't do that. that's fucking ridiculous and hilarious and crazy, but also something has been happening in the background because There was like I remember seeing when they had like a player that was announced that had like a 99 overall and it was a big like

Celebration press release of like yo, I got a yo, I got a 99 stat rating, I'm killing it in math this year, right? Jeremy Roenick in NHLPA 93 has a 100 rating in every single thing, I've never heard of the player. And so it's become like a actual big deal in the NFL for what your Madden rating is, but we don't know who or how or what the metrics are for how that's gathered and what that turns into, but what I do know is that it's been notoriously stupid and full of shit because,

so you've heard of probably Tom Brady? Yes, I've heard of Tom Brady, he's a football man. Yes, he won the Super Bowl in 2002 many years ago. He was rated 51 overall that year in Madden. So for 2024-25 season, the Jets have a win-loss of four wins to 11 losses. That's pretty fucking bad. I mean, just imagine being like, fucking nah, we're gonna pass on that because of the mad numbers. The weird part is that you take this over to Ingerland.

God, this is the same discussion as the War Thunder topic. Like, this is the same thing. Real life bleeding into the game. Yeah. So you take this overseas, and here's the thing. Champ Man, Championship Manager, for a while now, has actually been used for for low, mid acquisitions on teams and shit, because they have this system

where thousands of scouts around the world all contribute and they observe what the player ratings are from all these small leagues in all these different countries. And there's a kind of collective of what the ratings are and from all these like small leagues in all these different countries and there's like a kind of Collective of like what the ratings are and that go into the game And so the whole thing is backed up and is used to affect real-life football hires because of how they gather the data

They're not doing that with Madden. That's not what's happening here, you know Anyway, yes That is dumb as shit added. That's not what's happening here. You know? Anyway. Yes. That's dumb as fuck. That is dumb as shit. Good times. Anyway. That's all fine and dandy. Let's take some letters. Hey, if you want to send in a letter to Castle SuperBeast go ahead and send it to castlesuperbeastmail.gmail.com that's castlesuperbeastmail.gmail.com Let's take one over here. All right.

This one comes in from Chris who says, Yo Chris, what up? Dear unreliable religion Pat, and this too is about racism wooly. Last podcast's discussion about Naughty Dog's intergalactic reminded me of Wooly's reaction to metaphor, refantasio, in episode 290. When Wooly was going, wow, look at this RPG heavily featuring racism as part of its world building, my initial reaction is, what is he talking about?

That's almost every RPG. That's almost every Western RPG. And then I realized what I meant was that's almost every Western RPG. From Elder Scrolls to Baldur's Gate to Dragon Age to Witcher to Pillars of Eternity to Divinity to Greenfall, et cetera, et cetera. Societal racial conflict intention is more the rule than the exception. He's completely right. By contrast, JRPGs are a corrupt church hierarchy and false religion, which are heavily trod through ground, though it shows up a good amount

in Western ones as well. Neil Druckmann isn't so much purely being crazy by claiming a false religion is new ground for gaming, as it is reflecting that he probably just plays no Japanese games. The way will his reaction to metaphor reflects that he doesn't play Western RPGs. Okay. So of the games on the list that he provided, have you played any of those games? None. None. Yeah. See, like, like we had trouble when you were talking about cyberpunk and you're like, well,

we're you, people were saying, oh, it's your first open world best Like is that even true, but he just listed off like a huge amount all the things that were listed there I have not played therefore. I don't have a bunch of those are good Yeah, and the bunch of them under under all about racism. Oh, yeah, no dude skyrim has a fucking white supremacist dickhead going Skyrim is for the Nords It is a massive theme. Yeah, so there you go. Neither's a problem, just thought it was an interesting minor mirror dynamic.

I mean, that makes a ton of sense. Witcher is probably the series in which race and discrimination has the largest focus in the forefront. Yeah. I mean. It is, it's inescapable. I will double down on Chris's point here about me not knowing and say that I brought

the same energy to FF16. When I was like, yo, the racism though. Yeah, and then they actually kind of fumbled it in a weird way, because they're not used to it. They're not, but I think there were some decent sticking points that they got to right before the last chapter. There's one thing, I think it was Haddock that pointed it out, that it kind of broke

me because I didn't pick up on it when I was playing FF16, which is the anti-bearer racism is so extreme that they're not even valued as property. Right. Like even, like people will just kill each other's bearers, which are like load bearing, like labor in their household. And they'll be like, yeah, fuck that guy, ah, I hate bearers. It's weird. Yeah, I thought that they did get into like, they taking the concept and then adding that,

they're the specific flavor of like, and it can happen to you, anybody can have one. Adds that extra layer of super hatred for a mother that gives birth to one and then goes, ew, get it away from me. I don't remember where it is, but it is in ff16 Somewhere, but it's never shown to the player and it's not part of the story

But like I feel like it might have been like a bigger deal that like the bearers had like a Like a normie cleansing war like in the far past yes led to their treatment so that's what I'm talking about what I'm saying like I thought that they closed it off with some good lore bits because prior to going to the fucking final nonsense battle or whatever, that last continent where you're reading about the orphanage and you're- Yeah, okay, it's that one quest has that. You read about the orphanage and you read about the war that took place and what the actual hierarchy was in the past, you know, and then this is

the counteraction to that and the overcorrection. And that's the stuff that I found particularly interesting. I feel like that should have been earlier in the game. And not avoidable. Sure, sure. But that's a pretty good pretty astute observation Chris That might explain while why Druckmann said yeah, we're coming after the church this time now metaphor Is like metaphor is is excellent and goes for both? right, right metaphor is one if the church was outrageously corrupt and the source of systemic racism?

You're like, oh, that's pretty bad, actually. Don't like that. Hey, Bill Burr, don't you think that you went a little too far when you went after the church? Don't you think the church went too far? Oh, I love Bilbo. All right. Let's take one over here from Al. Hey Al, what up man?

Hey Pat and Woolly, quick question. Do you have any examples of advice that people get or give in often in games that actually turns out to be super unhelpful and teaches bad habits. I imagine fighters have a time. Oh, I have one right away. For example, a lot of people say ink your base when you start a Splatoon match,

but it's actually a rookie mistake that can hurt teams a lot. It forces the rest of the team to get into a 3v4 battle in the middle of the map and it usually puts you on a losing position, trying to reclaim mid in the first half of the game. Worst, your team gets wiped and the enemy just inks all over your spawn during that undoing the work anyway. The correct move is to toss bombs and spray a little ink as you race out of the spawn area, then slowly cover it over the course of the game. Pros will often just ignore it entirely until a full team knockout, then use the enemy respawn time to go back

and cover their own base. So I have two, actually. Chat actually reminded me of one. Number one is a fighting game one. And it is like, you and I have heard it forever and it's horrible. It's the worst. Hey, I don't know what character to play. What should I do? Well, you should try every character on the roster and see which one you gel with Ever don't ever do that. Oh my god. Oh Imagine imagine saying that in a MOBA People say that in a MOBA people say that in overwatch people say that Marvel rivals

No pick the character that's cool pick the cool one. Holy you see a character you think looks cool pick them You bought the game or you're booting the game up if it's free to have fun Look where the fun is and click on the fun one Click on the one that looks like yeah pick on the one you think looks cool and fun. Don't do the thing that doesn't seem like it's going to be fun. So hey, somebody in the chat asked the perfect follow-up question, is that advice really that bad? That advice is terrible because that gives you the situation where people load up Street Fighter and they start playing matches one character at a time and have a miserable fucking time for 20 matches

and never even get to the cool character on the roster they wanted to play and they quit. Why am I doing this? This sucks, I don't enjoy it. You're telling people to go not have fun. And the thing is that there's some genres of game are games where you boot up and there's no choices to make except for like, I guess kind of like maybe customizing your own character or so.

But you're going in and the game will reveal itself to you. But in games where you're just given this big choice right off the bat, you just have to lean towards whatever you think looks cool. You know? Rule of cool is the only way. Like, any time spent losing and feeling shit or whatever, or not getting what's going on and being confused while you also don't like the character you're using, you know? It's terrible.

That'd be awful. Terrible advice. I have a second one sure the second one is Everyone in the world who has played Final Fantasy 14 and told someone about the cure one cure to Interaction known as free cure So if you cast cure one it heals for for, I don't know, a couple hundred potency and every now and then it'll give you a free cast of cure two, which means you

won't have to use MP, which is nice. This is a trap. This is, this is a built in trap for healers because cure one doesn't do enough healing output and people will die as you are fishing for cure two. It just literally doesn't do enough healing to the point where I would tell people to take cure one off the bar. Throw the whole move in the garbage. Because time matters. Yeah. Yeah, OK. I don't know if it counts if it's official or not, but- Fight hungry. Mario Party telling you to fucking grind your palm

onto the stick is probably a bad idea. You've seen people with the mark, right? Ripping your flesh off the palm, yes, the mark of the fake one, of the liar, you know, of the beast. Like, just don't do it. Don't do what the game tells you to do. Those games are bad. Winding up your fucking little Shy Guy toy, or Tug of War, right?

The one where it's not even like, oh, do this to a certain amount of computer speed inputs or so. It's literally outdo your friends to see who can break their palms first. Yeah, no, don't do that. Do not listen to Nintendo. Don't do it. Do not listen to Nintendo. Don't do it.

The Mark of Mario. Yeah, man, pick every character at least once while you start the game and you've never played it before is so like, the worst part about it is it sounds reasonable. So here, like another way of phrasing it is don't put homework in front of the person who's playing for the first time. Yeah.

Right? You wanna, you start learning something that you think that you're interested in, and that process is fun and doesn't feel like homework, but what does feel like homework is the grindy bits, the studying, the da da da. Don't tell people to go do homework up front, that's stupid. Anyway, yeah, I mean, I'm basically running a career

on trying to undo that bad advice. All right, now we got one here from Brooke who says, quick question, I went to a funeral the other week and I got into a strange semi-argument with my family about the dress code. Okay. It's my belief that proper dress attire for a funeral service or a viewing is black. My mom and brother disagreed saying that you just have to dress nice. My brother wore a really bright, almost casual outfit that made me really embarrassed.

I settled with my mom on the agreement that bright clothes are okay as long as there's some black or muted element to them. What do you think? Okay, so this okay. So I doubt it's in the email. This is cultural, right? Step like are you a white person in North America? This this detail matters. Step right is yes. Like in China, I believe, I'm not sure which countries in Asia specify or so, but I definitely know that in some Asian countries, you wear all white, right?

Yeah. That's the tradition. If you're Irish and you're having a wake, the rules are totally fucking different. But we can talk to North America, here, where we live, and... Yeah, you're right, you should be wearing muted clothing. My understanding and familiarity with it is all black. You should, it is a somber event.

You should be wearing primarily black, and if you don't have primarily black nice clothes, it should at least not be bright in any way. Fancy is way lower on the priority list than dark and or black colors. If you have a dark blue suit, that's probably you can maybe get away with it, but. You should not wear like a trog door t-shirt though

This is technically a black shirt. It's also got trog door all over it. That would be inappropriate not everybody Has you know a ton of expensive formal wear so it's understandable if it you know is Not going nuts there, but don't wear your fucking a hug out mind break sweater nuts there but don't wear your fucking AHA Gao mind break sweater don't do that but you but you can go full goth outfit that is it's goths are always ready for a funeral absolutely that's the deal if the goth kids are doing it then that's what you that's what you should you should rock yeah your mom and brother you should not dress in a way in which you could perceive yourself entering into a Curb Your Enthusiasm episode.

You should not wear a Rurouni Kenshin Hawaiian shirt to a funeral. I don't think you should do that. I don't think that's appropriate. And so what this person might say, but that is a really nice, that is dressing nice in your, in your Kenshin Hawaiian. Okay. But it's still not appropriate. Yeah. All right. I didn't think that would get you. I can just see that conversation. Oh, I'm wearing my nice Kenshin shirt. It's buttoned up, mom. It's a buttoned up. You said get a buttoned up. There's buttons. right, last quick one. So, hello Dr. Versus and Mr. Sterzat. What's up, man?

Valve began when a bunch of developers left Microsoft to form their own studio and they made Half-Life. We all know what a big deal that was and still is. Got me thinking about the best games from developers who left their studios or were fired or laid off, et cetera, and formed their own. Another example is Medal of Honor, forming Infinity Ward and making Call of Duty. That's probably the most important one ever. That's the big one.

Here's the thing is that what you're describing is the history of the video game industry. This is the type of question where you might notice it once or twice, because I take it by the two examples given that you are a first-person shooter. You know, it's called it's fucking everything. Every genre, everywhere, all the time in the entire industry, all it is. Every every franchise that's currently big likely started because it came off of someone who either quit or left Or was fired from a studio and then went I'll do my own version version better blackjack with hookers the video game industry story

Bioware to black aisle to obsidian like the fucking There's so like the guys who left Capcom to go make King of Fighters and Fatal Fury Respawn I you know like it's it's oh yeah, no it happened again Infinity Ward people left Infinity Ward and they created respawn You know Yacht Club from from way forward It just it's it's endless. It's endless.

Harmonics. Capcom to like 10 developers. It just, it keeps happening and it will continue to do so. And then the people who are the most talented ones that make the shit that's pretty fucking good would love to go do that again without pity people who don't know what they're talking about breathing down their necks. It's the history of the industry, you know. And then sometimes you get a Capcom to

Clover to Platinum to Seeds to Clovers in which the company at the top was right and that maybe making games that make money was important Maybe maybe it was important to make money. Did you get all the steps in there Capcom to? To no one. Uh, you missed a step. Okay, okay team beautiful. I forgot I forgot about team beautiful to then Clover to seeds to platinum to clovers yes right okie-dokie that'll oh and our newest the guys at net ease that were working on distribution for overwatch and World of Warcraft to Marvel rivals. Word! That's where they came from? Remember NetEase and Blizzard fell apart like four years ago? Yeah, that deal. I remember when we reported on that deal falling through. So no more Overwatch in China, no more World of Warcraft in China?

That's who ended up being the rivals team. I had no idea. Well here comes fucking Chinese Overwatch and they got the Marvel license. How's about that? Holy shit, okay. And the spite. And the spite inside. Absolutely. Oh yeah, Tango, absolutely.

It's the story of everything. It's infinite, it's infinite. This is not a special case. It's literally just the way the industry works. All right, that'll do. Everyone, happy holidays, Merry Christmas, have a good new year. Take care. Bye. Thanks for watching!