Castle Super Beast - CSB302: MEINKRAFT

Episode Date: January 9, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 ["Sailor Moon Theme"] You know what? Fuck it. Let's get that noise in there. yes ah the the crack and sip mmm is that a is that an answer Yeah, you look like you're ready and Willing to be trapped in a maze. I do look like I'm ready to be trapped in an infinite maze So which there is no escape where the focus is on you On me Did AI generate me into the infinite maze? Oh how exciting it sure did
Starting point is 00:01:17 Right after it it generated all those booze that Hulk Hogan got When he walked oh is that what we're doing now is that what we're doing Hey, I generated the booze that Hulk Hogan got when he walked out. Oh, is that what we're doing now? Is that what we're doing? AI generated the booze? Oh, that's good. That's real good. Trapped in an infinite maze, though. I mean, I don't want to be in the infinite maze.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Well, too late. Facebook puts you there. No, I don't. I haven't used my Facebook in like ten years Don't get out of there Man, my mom will just read things on Facebook and just tell them to talk to me on the phone like they're real Yeah, I don't get it I don't get it I mean you you shouldn't do though like it's fucked There's just no escaping it. We're locked in it's done This is the woman that when I was like six or seven
Starting point is 00:02:11 Would say now Patrick you can't believe everything you see on TV, and we were like watching the news Mm-hmm is now like looking at like Bees are stealing all your water headlines on Facebook and going oh my god I should call PanTrac. I had like this morning, you know, I had my, a new version, it's not new, but it's like it's cemented. I watched the, whatever, I scrolled past some dumb, like basically person filming what is essentially a skit but pretending that it's real type of shit. And yet,
Starting point is 00:02:50 like this, exactly. Right. And, and then, in the in the discussion underneath was just the like, argument about like, hey, was was that like, you guys know that, like, they're they're just that's not that's not a real thing, right? And then it was like yeah, but like It was it but it's it's it's emblematic reality It made me smile and and that's that's all that kind of matters speaks to truth Yeah, right Can we just get Jonathan Frakes to tell me that it didn't happen it was a fabrication we made it up
Starting point is 00:03:30 Our writers, it was so fucking smug yeah, I mean that's the way you wouldn't hire him if he didn't to be yeah Yeah, no a week a week did occur though. I don't know what you got up it, Skyrim exiting the cave moment and then when you hit the map and saw the icons you were like, buuuhhh. So that's not exactly, that's not the truth. It's more just I played the session and then I did the heist and I based at the end of the session I was just kind of talking about how I was still feeling kind of overwhelmed with systems and overall information and stuff you know if you've played what we
Starting point is 00:04:38 talked about the the the ubi style games of like you know seeing a bunch of icons on the map and you know and any open-world game as well as the icon vomit there's our there's a lot of those things and you know, seeing a bunch of icons on the map and, you know, and any open world game as well. The icon vomit. There's a lot of those things and, you know, I'm sure any, like, game where you have a large city to scale in a GTA kind of way is also like, you know, there's comparison points for all these things, but it's more just kind of when I was like looking at the like comparing, quickly comparing which items to which weapons to keep and which ones not to keep and a kind of a couple of other things about just like getting used to what is I don't know what the
Starting point is 00:05:19 process is but it's essentially like it's that that thing where you put up walls in a video game and realize this is where the limitations are Mm-hmm where initially you kind of think like oh, it's just and it's an encyclopedia of information in all directions And then over time you kind of quickly realize. Oh, it's not actually it's much Yeah, you you you would have skipped that part if you had like familiarity with like, you know Like playing Witcher 3 or something like that, where it's like they build their play set in a really specific way kind of every time. Yeah. Yeah. And menus on menus, connected to menus is certainly one way to quickly get
Starting point is 00:05:58 lost in things. And another thing too is kind of like, guess there's when looking at for example like with the weapons in particular I was looking to I was kind of going like okay. What is the Number for which weapon here is better when I'm comparing these two and it's like well. It's not really like that it's more just like these are all different stats and There's gonna be getting like the same gun, but slightly better Yeah, but so there's tears, but either way, sometimes, but it's not universal, right? Because you're still going to be like, some are going to have more slots than others for customization and some might be customized with the things you want and some might not.
Starting point is 00:06:39 And so what I now realize is from just at at a quick glance you kind of have to just go Yeah, fuck it. I don't care. Does that have kind of a thing? I want and is it relatively in the range of what I'm looking for. Yes, then good No, then done then ditch but like more so when we're talking about like, you know even let's say item clutter in neo or Any of the other games or you're picking up a whole lot of them, there's a very quick like, this is red, it's weaker than what I got, it's bad for the class, for the slot, or for the type of weapon, or it's better, you know? And as somebody who's like, I just
Starting point is 00:07:16 want to have the best single version of each thing. If I get a better shotgun than my last shotgun, I can ditch that old shotgun, I don't't care and while I'm feeling it out at least until I want to make a specific one that part was hard to do quickly picking them up for the first time you know. Cyberpunk has some of the issues that the Witcher series has with its itemization I think Witcher 3 has like one of the worst sets of items I've ever seen in a game in my entire life. Like genuinely. Because you are picking up swords and pieces of armor off of almost every single human-ish enemy in the entire game. And we're talking like tens of thousands of swords and shit right? But there are quests to build witcher
Starting point is 00:08:06 gear so like the armor of the manticore which is multiple orders of magnitude better than literally anything you could ever find on the ground or in a chest. Okay. So you go on the witcher gear quest and you go. Oh man I made the cat set and then every single piece of gear you pick up for like 60 more hours is dog shit, and then you find the second tier of the cat set ice and you're like oh, yeah So thus you just use outfits to glamour yourself up, but no there's no glam. Yeah, you can outfit in which are three Oh, what your three. Sorry. Sorry. Yeah, okay In this instance Yeah, I kind of like wildlife we've talked and lamented about like games with like over looting and
Starting point is 00:08:58 Overwhelming you with the weapons and stuff overall for me. I realized like while I was fine with Neos stuff. Overall, for me, I realized, while I was fine with Neos, it's more like it was overwhelming, but there was a quick system for mentally discarding that which was not necessary. So at a glance, you could go down your list and go, need it, don't need it, don't need it, drop, drop, drop, drop, sell, sell, sell, sell, scrap, merge, beep, right? And that was because it had that overall number it had that overall number and it had that, that the, um, it had the overall number, it kind of had the part of the set aspects and then the rarity. And you could just quickly go like, all right, purple, better than what I have done. Um, and here, they just, it just doesn't do that. It has the rarity and it has the aspects,
Starting point is 00:09:40 but it doesn't, it doesn't have that kind of like overall damage number, I suppose. Um, or if it does, it's like there's D's DPS but that might have a what about attack speed and reload and it kind of just balances in a way where I'm like I kind of like an overall grade of each weapon I pick up for a quick mental you know calculation of what's worth keeping and not you know. Mad Fientist You're explaining this and I'm like kind of laughing to myself because I'm remembering little bits and pieces of the way like CD projects like interface stuff has like increased over time.
Starting point is 00:10:12 And there's one of the things that I personally didn't encounter in about 15 or 20 hours playing Cyberpunk, but I encountered every time I did a session of Witcher 3 and in some cases Witcher 2 where you'll pick up like you'll max out your inventory of bullshit. You'll be like, man, I'm carrying like 45 fucking swords and 10 armors. I should go sell this. And every single merchant in the game can buy like 20% of that. They just literally don't even have enough gold to pay you. Oh, because the counts of that.
Starting point is 00:10:49 So you end up having to do this fucking nonsense circuit of the major areas to empty your inventory. Oh man, so that number next to the seller is the limit of what they can buy. Yeah. I didn't realize that, okay. Well. But I didn't run into they can buy. Yeah. I didn't realize that. Okay. Well, I didn't run into that in Cyberpunk.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Okay. Well, I mean, admittedly, you dump stuff off in the drop boxes and then you can discard for creating, you know, for creating, whatchamacallit, rarity, like... Iconic. ...part parts or whatever Mods whatever Yeah, so it's It is it is kind of you know funny to just kind of have that that part be there at a glance
Starting point is 00:11:34 And I've definitely I'm kind of reminded it's too like this would be this would definitely be similar for like walking into weapon crafting and for like walking into weapon crafting and understanding equipment and armor in like a Souls game, right? Just kind of staring at that screen and kind of trying to crack your way through that for the first time.
Starting point is 00:11:54 I was about to say something really stupid. I almost said, well, Souls shit isn't that complicated. And then I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait, no, I got used to it, I got used to it. No, no, it's quite very complicated. It's absurd, it's absurd how complicated it is. But that was a semi-blind learning experience LP that I did. So you're there to explain how those parts of stuff worked.
Starting point is 00:12:13 And I was like, oh, okay. And then German Spy was also around later to explain stuff. And I was like, oh, okay. So there was the handhold. And then I would even say there was the part where you have the help button, you know, which they added later and That also came in handy for like armored core where I was like, I don't quite know what I'm looking at an armored core I did have a session of going. All right, stop the LP for a second
Starting point is 00:12:38 What am I looking at? Right? How do I interpret how to use these weapons properly? and then what am I searching for when I take them to the range because a couple percentage increase in speed in something is very hard to feel. Oh man, like percentile increases. We've talked about this before. Anything less than 10%. You'll never feel it.
Starting point is 00:12:59 So that being said, because we've been talking about this for a couple of minutes now, I don't want this to skew the impression here. I now get it, because I've spent a bunch of time off camera feeling out the game. And in particular, I've me put the game up in, it's like put the borders up on what the game is and what the game isn't, you know? What it is not is a first person futuristic Baldur's Gate 3.
Starting point is 00:13:40 No, no, no, no, no, it is, your physical location in space is up to you in any way, and how you interact along certain very specific lines is up to you in any way, but it is still a very crafted, destroyed line narrative. Yes, and it is an action game with a whole lot of narrative available to you. But as you walk about the streets and you see crimes or you go interact with those,
Starting point is 00:14:15 you just go walk up and kill the grunts, pick up their shit and walk away. And that's it. Get in a car. They were criminals. Drive to the next one. And while you drive around and get into fights, people will sometimes message you and ask you things. And then occasionally, I guess you'll get locked into some, you know, set pieces or so, but I haven't touched any of those. I just did the the NCPD stuff. And
Starting point is 00:14:35 that has been like, Oh, okay, this helps. You know, the roleplay aspect of this is super backseat. I guess, I mean, I know that there's relationship stuff, but I don't know how that goes. Yeah, but it's like Mass Effect-ish in its complexity. Yeah, okay. So fairly minor. And then on top of that too, walking over to like a Ripper dock and seeing the inventory also, at least for now, created a nice like, all right, when people are talking about you can, you're going to want to get
Starting point is 00:15:12 your fists, your gorilla arms and sand devastants. That's not like picking, I don't know, a hex scythe or of, know where it's like that's a one of many Think attributes in one of many weapon styles where here at least initially they're like do you want to do hacking as a whole or Throw that out for an OS. Do you mean magic? Yeah Do you want to do magic as a whole or do you want time stop instead of magic as a whole? Or do you want blood rage instead of time stop or magic as a whole?
Starting point is 00:15:54 And those are the three OS options you have initially. And it's like, OK, you're not always hacking while choosing which types of buffs. And you know what I mean? Because I thought hacking was a whole separate thing that every type of character would be able to do while doing other stuff you know but it's it's the yeah the amount of points you get is like you can max out like three stats and get halfway up on a fourth so So it's like well, what three stats do you want? Well, you want reflex and you want cool and you want
Starting point is 00:16:28 cybernetics Those are the cool ones. So, you know seeing that it's like, okay There's three initial classes to basically be here And then if you decide to go melee you can go with punches or you can go with blades or whips or the rocket arm Thing and those are your four or and you know, they're like what kind of jump you want can go with punches or you can go with blades or whips or the rocket arm thing. And those are your four or, and then, you know, and then like, what kind of jump you want, you want to double jump, you want to high jump, you want a quick run, you know, you want to stealth.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Yeah. And those are your four and they're like, okay, okay, okay. And so all these limitations have made it much like more comfortable and sort of sane, I guess, cause I was like, Oh man, what's it going to be? How are we getting thrown into deep end here? And thankfully I'm like, all right, I get it now. Very comfortable. Like mechanically, it's like Witcher 4 or like Deus Ex had a little baby, you know, like it's a CD Projekt game through and through. It's just that aesthetic is just so the aesthetic and the perspective. Putting it in first person just changes the expectations of the type of game
Starting point is 00:17:26 It is it that does a lot for it And I would also say that tech menu of unlocks right the the level of character Stats and such like as you go into each of those stats, and you see the full tree When you're not now like okay now that I'm a bit more familiar with each tree and what the major, like, points are on each one, like, I'm sure that's where everybody else that's watching is, and they're like, yeah, you know, you kind of just know very vaguely
Starting point is 00:17:53 what these skills are about. But when you don't know, and it just, and it's like, it just feels like tabs and tabs, you're like, oh man, until I get familiar, I'm just gonna not know how to do things, like, kind of, you know, quickly, and not waste time I guess. Now none of this, of the learning process of what I'm describing here, is really a problem
Starting point is 00:18:12 at all if you're just taking your time and going through it. But I'm very conscientious of like, if I have to stop for five minutes and just read, that's not what an LP... Yeah, you have different reading streams, sir. I do. So I'm very concerned about moments like that, you know? And I feel like this has allowed me to get more comfortable. So, yay, that's worked out. And in the process, of course, of doing a bunch of those
Starting point is 00:18:40 NCPD missions, which are really no plot content, very minimal, you just walk up plot content, you know, very minimal. You just walk up... Ah, guy's going nuts. Ah, he's got a back dally thing. Go kill him. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Just go beat up a bunch of gang gang gangers. In the process, of course, like I've leveled up a good bit and I don't imagine it's much of an issue in this kind of game. It seems as if the difficulty scales and there's a couple of checks that also scale with you as you get stronger. And the first couple of missions you do, you get tons of XP right off the bat and level up really quickly. And then obviously that tapers off. But all this to say like, yeah, when we boot up the next stream and I come back in and I'm, you know, much higher level of stuff. I imagine, you know, it shouldn't affect too too much. That being said, I also hear that like you eventually you power up to the point where the game gets
Starting point is 00:19:39 trivialized almost no matter what. And CD Projekt is not good at that. So I have played all of CD Projekt's releases. They all have the same problem. They have a 100% success rate on having an inverted difficulty curve. All three Witcher games have a difficulty curve in which the hardest part of the game is the first hour And the second hardest is the second hour and so on and so forth And then you just get the melting abilities. Yeah, okay, so that's what I'm expecting here Then yeah, it's not like it would have been too much of a struggle
Starting point is 00:20:20 You know outside of things were like my dog on my dog should aim or whatever you know but I also want to Feel what it's like to like, you know, see what the builds are and stuff in a way So that's kind of why I wanted to the respectability I think as a result, so I know spreading yourself too fit in this kind of game comes back to bite you in the ass because They kind of want you to to bite you in the ass because they kind of want you to like go all in on one style. The top tier perks are really strong. I went for example, like I was
Starting point is 00:20:57 not planning to do like much spell casting, you know, just based on the first session or so. But then when messing around in, you know, the off screen, I was like, oh, it's pretty fun to like stack up a bunch of like quick hacks and then run in and slash somebody, you know? So I tried that out. But to do that, you've got to get your intelligence up to nine. So you've got to you've got to spend those those points pushing it further than you would into body or reflexes or so. And then when I was like, all right, let me go try out time stop or
Starting point is 00:21:31 let me go try out the blood rage. You now have to pull those points out and put them elsewhere, but your intelligence stays where it was. And to get the 9 or 15 to go higher in the next screen, you got to go get those levels higher as well. So it feels like, yeah, there's no real, it doesn't kind of, it doesn't want you to dip your water, your toes in too much in the like, the cutoff point of each tree, but it does want you to play within what you have unlocked by letting you refund the the yellow points you know mm-hmm And let me ask you did you have the threat detection eyeballs on during the heist I Think I'd had default eyeballs on I didn't I didn't do any any ripper doc stuff until after
Starting point is 00:22:23 So the heist is cool. The heist is great. It is. But when you're hiding behind the fish tank in the wall and big boy Adam comes in. Oh yeah. If you have the, oh that was removed? Oh no, that's a bummer.
Starting point is 00:22:43 It used to be if you had the eyeball and upgrade that would show you who can perceive you in a room, Adam would glow. Okay, well, if that's a hard con confirm, that's really cool because- Apparently that was a bug. I looked at him and I was like, I looked at him and I was like, he at him. It's like he's looking at us
Starting point is 00:23:10 He's looking he's staring in your direction while everything else is going on. They should have left that shit in I 100% believe that he's looking at you and it's just like are you doing anything? All right, whatever. I'm out my job They should have kept that shit. It feels 1000% like he knows you're there but just doesn't give a shit until you try something You know? The way he's positioned, it feels too obvious. Or too... Dude, I love Adam Smasher. That guy's great.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Yeah. And I guess... Well the heist felt much more on rails than that initial vertical slice mission did. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah, it does. Well, because a bunch of really important things have to happen in a row. You can't be messing it up too much.
Starting point is 00:23:58 But the, I guess like the first first mission where you pull the girl out of the bathtub, where you can sneak behind the vents and then... Shit. Your boy. What's his name? Jackie. Jackie tackles the guy against the wall as you come through like I Feel like that's a very Superscripted moment that you're probably not gonna get a ton of in the future
Starting point is 00:24:32 Mm-hmm Anyway, it was it was cool to kind of you know I saw that part Oh, yeah, someone in the chat correctly answered. It was Jake the dog Jackie the dog nice Answered it was Jake the dog Jackie the dog nice I Did find I took the break in the in the lobby and I found the Hideyoshi, Ojima Yeah, you found they found the coach on bow I'd looked at him at first though, and I was like Because we looked at him at first and Reggie's like wait is that and I was like I don't know dude not all Asian dudes are just gonna be like no wait that's actually him that's like he recorded his voice
Starting point is 00:25:13 talking shit it was like okay and then did he announce that he was looking camp yeah okay that's him right but he's there he's in control yeah yeah but it could have just been some guy right it could have just been some guy Right. It could have just been some guy you you knew Yeah, so that was that was cool that was cool no, I did like dice I didn't realize that That yeah act one quote unquote was literally just the intro, you know and acts two is the game So I'm I'm not I'd never beat Cyberpunk so I could probably ask somebody who's watching right now. They'd answer me before the end of it because
Starting point is 00:25:54 Which are three had it didn't have like super well defined acts, but it did have geographic locations that made it extremely clear Where and like this is the this is the tutorial? This is the you know, this is the first part of the game, the second part of the game. And it had this setup that you do like a hundred hours and you did all the regions and you're like I'm ready to go into the end of the game now. And then the game kept going for like 55 more hours. Ahh. And I've never seen anything do that ever. I mean, is it because it makes the mission like, go out and make a name for yourself
Starting point is 00:26:34 and like that's your main quest? No! In Witcher, you have an extremely clear goal for like the entirety of the game, which is find a certain person and Then I guess I was thinking that finding them would be the end of it But then you run into them and they're like cool now that I you have found me We now have to solve a problem and that's the whole rest of the game. Okay, it's ridiculous hmm, I
Starting point is 00:27:01 The talk up leading into this game has led me to feel like I'm entering a fucking Eldon sized all-encompassing Beast I think I think the talk up around CP 77 which is by the way the worst horrible The worst acronym which is why I say it because I just saw someone say it in the chat And I wanted to bring this up. Okay I was like why awful I think everyone kind of unconsciously agreed that we just don't use that acronym awful god awful you
Starting point is 00:27:32 just say cyber um terrible Jesus so bad I forgot what I was saying just God stop saying that I just got off of Yakuza Zero's completion points. Oh yeah? Mm-hmm. That was a fun one to just run down the street going, help, I need more CP to make myself stronger. I gotta take it to that guy at the shrine. I need to take it to that weird guy.
Starting point is 00:27:58 He gives me stuff for CP. It's really valuable. Collection points. No, it's not even, it's completion points. Completion points. It's even worse. He's dressed up. It's really valuable. Collection points. No, it's not even, it's completion points. It's even worse. It's even worse. The guy that's dressed up like a clown in the shrine needs my completion points.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Awful. Yeah. Awful. No, the talking up of cyberpunk is so weird because now there are two different cyberpunks. There is the 1.0 and the 2.0, which are very significantly different games. And I think it's really funny because I mentioned that I had not beaten the game and I looked over and saw five chat messages in a row that were alternating of, you really should, it's something special and don't bother, who even cares? Wow, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:46 I mean, okay, there was, I mean, there definitely was some of that with like the fixer gigs and the fixer gigs and the side quests and some of the stuff here where initially, anyway, it seems like some are worth checking out and some are not, and people feel very differently between themselves about which are worth doing and which aren't. And some people consider it to be like not worth watching at all if they're there or
Starting point is 00:29:14 if they're not there and so on. So what I kind of ended up deciding was I'm like, I'll check out some of them. But NCPT stuff, for example, nothing, you know? And anything I do see off camera at the very, that's worth showing, I can at least do the capture feature with PS5 and just be like, here's the playback on what that moment was. With the exception being Phantom Liberty, where every part of Phantom Liberty is worth doing.
Starting point is 00:29:41 You gotta get that part where Suzy runs you over with her car. I've heard mentioning, a lot of people have asked about whether I've gotten hit by Susie's car yet. Well that's, that's far away. That's expansion shit. Exactly. So no, I just started the game, I just did the heist, I don't think I'm getting to the DLC just yet.
Starting point is 00:29:58 But I also didn't think I'd be in Act 2 so soon either, whatever that meant, you know? But yeah, no no, all this to say that yeah act one is like this it's like this tiny little thing and then act two is like the rest of it it act one and act two in cyberpunk are the equivalent of how to draw an owl draw your outline then draw the rest of the fucking owl and I would complain about like choosing to call it acts when it's so limited But it is true that if you choose to not do the heist for a very long time You could just wander those streets doing other shit, right?
Starting point is 00:30:34 I'm going to end up restarting playing cyberpunk at some point because I did tons and tons of shit Before doing the the the heist. And I now really regret not doing that shit with a certain someone. Exactly. Exactly. So that was another piece of important information that helped as well when it was explained to me that there's more dialogue to doing some missions and side stuff and walking around the city after act two begins than if you do it before. So really, really chill the fuck out and you know, do that stuff later, it'll be okay. And yeah, I've already had one of those, you know, like Just walking down seeing a dude playing the guitar and then like Johnny's got some shit to say and That was pretty cool and it wouldn't have been there if you just otherwise were exploring without it, you know
Starting point is 00:31:37 So you know what's awesome about Johnny Silverhand? Mm-hmm is that he sucks and he's a stupid idiot Mm-hmm is that he sucks and he's a stupid idiot It's it's that it rules interesting it fucking rules interesting Okay, I'm watching and I did that flashback And I don't know where we're going because the literally all I've had is that and then waking up And it's like he wants you what's the fucking kill you? But I'm kind of waiting to see like, so where's the good idea in this mission? Because I get the energy. And the whole time I'm watching I'm like, I understand the energy, but where, what am
Starting point is 00:32:21 I missing? And we're going to fight the system, man! Where am I missing where you think that this is a good idea to this degree, and you know, and I guess- You have already put more thought into this. And so that's the thing, right? I kind of am like, okay, I need to know this character, and I need to understand when it comes to, okay, but what about the casualties?
Starting point is 00:32:46 Do you go fuck the casualties? This is war or? Do you go you don't even ask the question? Yeah, I guess so I guess bro You might as well be rolling with shadow the hedgehog which Yeah That's cuz that's that's what I'm holding. I'm holding out for that, you know? Like, I'm not going to sign this waiver until I find out like what's fully going on in this dude's head.
Starting point is 00:33:17 But so far it appears to be only music and only fuck the system and only nukes We'll find out I suppose Kind of his jib though hell of a cut on that chill. Oh, yeah Absolute badass in a lot of the things he says first impression heal to somebody who's not actually listening and just looking at Him be cool. Oh, yeah. No, no, no the again chiseled Immaculate cut on that gym. You cannot you cannot deny the appeal and then furthermore like he gets a special gun or Implant or whatever it is that makes his melee school as far as melee thing is rad as shit with the basically does a kyoku sanagi super with his gun
Starting point is 00:34:08 And that's a lot of fun that's very cool. I enjoy Johnny Silverhand's Surface Yeah, yeah And then I guess the other thing too as well which to be I think walking around the game, picking up the literature and also like doing some of the missions. I've heard and I've known going into this, especially having watched edge runners that like it is the darkest and most cynical setting. Oh, it's awful. Ever.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Terrible. Knowing that, is there a perspective that is like holding on to something? Is there any candle? You know? Because Disco Elysium is soul-crushingly oppressive, but there's a little bit of a candle! And that little bit of a candle, even if it's happening inside your head, is what makes you get to the end credits and like, tear up. You know? And I'm like, oh! Let me just, just give me a little spark to protect.
Starting point is 00:35:29 You know? Bro, you're the candle, brother. I hope so. I hope so. But I've not yet, I've not yet seen it, you know? What I have seen is anyone who might be that is too pure for this world. And you can feel it right off the bat. I'm like, oh, are you a good person
Starting point is 00:35:45 doing good things for people you care about? Ah, fuck, you're cooked. You see this really early. So, Co-Carnage plays a character you probably ran into. When you go to VIX for the first time, there's a guy with a beard wearing trash bags screaming about how your eyes are poison and if you stand there and listen to him
Starting point is 00:36:09 for like a minute, he's like, yeah, no, the corpse and the government are spying on everything you do through your synthetic eyes. We should really stop implanting teenagers with cybernetics because they're losing all of their goddamn free will and ability to not exist in the system. And he's portrayed as a crazy homeless guy,
Starting point is 00:36:36 but he's completely right. Yeah, okay. I mean, I've seen enough of the emails, texts, and books that you're picking up as well where there's people that are kind of more or less, you know, keeping up the fight and rallying, so to speak. You know, and then of course there's the part where you immediately find out too that the craziest shit that ever went down with Johnny Silverhand was also super corpo-backed
Starting point is 00:37:03 and like... Oh yeah, he's a dumbass. And you're just like, oh yeah, he's a dumbass. And you're just like, oh yeah, no, they love that. They love giving the world an excuse to be like, stay complacent, et cetera, you know? But yeah, that's it. That's it. I kind of, I'm just, I'm looking to see what comes next in terms of the setting. And I'm wondering as well if the tabletop was similar energy or was it just like, nah, the settings wild jump in there, you know? Because I did catch from people explaining that he existed and these events all existed in the tabletop game as well because there's like 2020 and then 45 and then like 77, there's these different periods.
Starting point is 00:37:47 And yeah, it was, it was pretty, that's the kind of be like, let's flash back to, yeah, 2020 when the game was named for. And I kind of just auto-completed the possibility that, oh, maybe the game was based on the early years of this cyberpunk world, and now, rather, the tabletop game was based on the early years, and now the video game is jumping forward. Well, when they were made in the 80s, it was the far future then. It was, it was, yeah. But, it seems like, but even back then, there was still going as far as, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:26 like past 2020 to like 45 and then to 77 and so. Because it seemed like it would be, like, you know, if you had to do like a, well, yeah, like a D&D thing, same thing where you had this massive tabletop world where a ton of things could happen, you would have to then end that and then create a canonical
Starting point is 00:38:45 point to jump forward if you made something like a video game that was collecting all the stuff. If I remember right, Adam Smasher in the tabletop was a fail state. It was like either make too much noise or take too long and the corpse sends Adam Smasher at you and you just die Okay, like it is a It's like it's like um He's like the Tarasque of Cyberpunk okay if that reference means anything to you the tour when you say to ask I think of Starcraft oh
Starting point is 00:39:20 I'm saying I'm saying the Dungeons and Dragons monster the Tarasque Okay, yeah the thing that has a million HP and you have to kill it and then wish its heart to die Okay, it is a game over with more steps yes, yeah cool Yeah Reaper in you know, so in persona etc Until you take it on, of course. Yeah, so far pretty cool. Well, anyway, more to say when I actually jump back into the game this week and stuff and explore. But I don't suppose the later game unlocks OSs that allow you
Starting point is 00:40:12 to have more than one major function. I doubt it, but I don't know. Okay. Because I'm like, I don't want no hacking. It would be nice to have some little basic shit and then do something else, but nah, okay. It's just classes, right? So yeah, you can't really do, you can't be a fighter mage. I mean, you could. You can max out your intelligence.
Starting point is 00:40:35 You can max out your body. But the OS doesn't allow you to hack and activate one of those melee abilities. Yeah, so you would just be melee without that thing plus your little spells. But you can't cast the spells if you put on the thing that I'm just- Yeah, but that doesn't stop you from putting the arms on. Oh, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's just it's just the the overall you could be a punch mage yes without actually having the sandy or the yeah the berserk mode yes yes yes right
Starting point is 00:41:12 um yeah i i was i was talking about like you know hybridizing your os's or so no no that's too because they're too strong like you you you can't have, like, fully stopped time on a whim and also hack everyone in your vicinity to kill themselves. But you can swing a big greatsword around and give yourself just enough faith to toss a little lightning bolt for funsies. You know. So, eh. Anyway, beyond that, also went back to a thousand times resist. And that story is starting to shape up a little bit more I can say now, whereas last time I said I didn't know what it was about. And that's I mean, besides kind of
Starting point is 00:42:02 just getting introduced to the setting, it's kind of becoming a little bit more clear. And yeah, I guess, since it's so narrative heavy, like it's kind of, you know, hard to really, I feel like talk about because like the little the, the little things you find out about the character relationships pretty much are the content of the game. So almost everything to be said there feels like a potential spoiler. But it does, what I will say is that this is another entry in the criterion collection of movies and games about like, damn, my parents were wild and they don't understand across the world, international edition, right? So there's a trilogy, I would say, of the
Starting point is 00:43:00 Asian mom needs to chill out and you've got the turning red everything everywhere all at once and then now a thousand times resists You know trilogy and then you can add like yeah, like thirsty suitors is a little bit of that, you know Going it well, I guess going into more a little less East Asia, but still in that a little less East Asia, but still in that kind of area. And I feel like I'd love to see going around the world, catching different countries and different cultures of just finding out like how mom needs to chill
Starting point is 00:43:36 and like what that millennial pressure is like for somebody coming down from, I don't know, from South America from somewhere. I mean, you don't know, from South America, from somewhere, from... I mean, you wouldn't need to chill if you just studied harder on your med school entrance exam. Yes. You would be relaxed because you were so confident that you would get 100%.
Starting point is 00:43:58 But I wanna see what that sounds like when mom's from Ninovoj. I wanna catch a full collection of these, because we're of that age where the second generation that has grown up dealing with that is able to make games now. And I mean, I've already created content around that concept in terms of just my mom's involvement with Devil Games.
Starting point is 00:44:29 So you already know my version of that from the West Indian side of things. That's why I'm just like, yeah, this is a fun lens and I like seeing other versions of it. And yeah, and then of course, we're starting to're starting to find out as well, some tie-ins to real world history while entering this at a glance near kind of inspired aesthetic. So interesting so far and more to say once it wraps up. But yeah, it's a relationship drama it is walking simulator type of store story but I thought it was about fucking aliens yeah But very interesting.
Starting point is 00:45:28 If you're like able to lock into like aliens as the background noise to like, okay, damn, why is she talking shit about me? What's up with that? You know? Yeah. Did she really mean it when she said that? You know? Yeah. Did she really mean it when she said that? What the fuck? We're talking about a thousand times resist. I still don't know what that game is.
Starting point is 00:45:54 It's really funny. No matter how much I hear you talk about it, or how much I see clips of it, I'm still just like, don't know what it is. It shows for information particularly poorly. So like I like you know you could watch like you know a five minute thing of cyberpunk and ballpark it. Yeah. Right. I have watched way more than five minutes of thousand times resist and I'm still sitting here going like I'm fine. out. So essentially it's a 3D visual novel,
Starting point is 00:46:26 you know, that's not made in Ren-P type of thing, but in terms of just like what the actual video game genre is in a way, but in terms of like the framing and what you're looking at in terms of content, a super futuristic, crazy tech, alien sci-fi setting is analyzing the memories of a kid from our day, modern day, and so the relationships of the person who's living in the modern day are at the forefront
Starting point is 00:47:06 and this large crazy sci-fi framing device around it is... Well, actually that's at the forefront and then the relationships that I'm describing are like, you know, behind that. So, yeah, you're kind of... And okay, yeah, you're you're you're kind of and and okay, okay, yeah, not not modern day. Anyway, you're you're looking to the past that we can relate to. Mm hmm. Through a crazy sci-fi future that we can't. That's that's what's happening. Okay. Do I shoot a gun? No. But you
Starting point is 00:47:41 wonder why she talked shit about you And you and you you know, you may say some mean things in the process and and so on and so forth You walk by to talk shit because she was a bitch that's why you walk by debate club and you see debate club debating and then you find two your friends over there making out, first basing it. Not with a- Out in public? Jesus. No, they found a classroom away from everybody and it wasn't with a loose leaf.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Anyway, more on that as we continue. That also was like Act 2, I guess. And then so I got through Act 2 of that. And then, yeah, we also took a look this week at Marvel versus Capcom Infinite and Beyond. Talked enough about that last time for sure, but super awesome project that is bringing Infinite back into the spotlight.
Starting point is 00:48:50 The one thing I will say is as we were going through it and trying out some of the new modes and stuff, yeah, Max came through and was like, you guys got to try out that co-op mode. And so Reggie and I played two player locals versus the computer in arcade mode and the final boss Ultron Sigma is just an absolute nightmare bullshit boss rage waiting to happen. Content has been prepared for your content creation channel and You know I mean I have to say I'm like yeah that checks out actually That's this is this is what this should be for this is what this I mean those guys are pretty tough
Starting point is 00:49:37 They are should probably be really tough. You know and it's just in like I'm Like he comes through and is like yeah, I want to see you guys try that That'd be cool. All right. Bye and you know quickly realizing. Oh, thank you for thank you for the content This is gonna make the rest of the night go and it's fucking bullshit. It's absolute horseshit nonsense. I'll try to make my Omega wait It's one of those it's one of those like Marvel bosses where it's like, okay, you could hit him for a while, but now he's gone and there's grunts.
Starting point is 00:50:11 But instead of- Oh, really? Yeah. Because there was things like, there's a couple bosses in Marvel history where an onslaught would jump into the background and stuff like that. But in this case, it's like, you can't, if you defeat one of the grunts, they just respawn. You have to kind of kill them simultaneously for that phase to end. And then when he comes back, whatever, infinite armor, infinite bullshit, just all the things you'd expect, you know?
Starting point is 00:50:44 I'm watching this. This looks like a fucking stupid pile of shit. Yeah. It's ridiculous. It's great. It's nonsense. And I'm reminded though of like, I also, I remember when I sat there and I like fought Yami in Tatsunoko versus Capcom, the last boss of TVC was the boss from Okami. And similarly, it's just a big dumb damage sponge where
Starting point is 00:51:08 not every character can do it because some people just don't have a kit for it. If you do big combos, that's nice. That's going to get you fucking killed. You need armor, multiple hits in the right angles and stuff. But yeah, we kind of smashed our heads against that until one way or another we found out. You triumphed. We did. We did. Oh, good job. It went from pretty much completely impossible to being very possible and emotions ran high. Oh yeah. So check that out. I think the video's out to just
Starting point is 00:51:46 Marvel is back. Marvel versus Capcom, infinite and beyond. And yeah, once again, you know, I said it in each one, I'll say it again, the full credit to that team, you know, Maximillian and Little V and Alex Mukala on the music and Wistful Hopes for the amazing mods and everyone that was a part of that gargantuan effort. Super cool. This week there will be more of Cyberpunk and Thousand Times Resist on the main schedule. I've posted up on wooly wolves on Twitter and on blue sky and
Starting point is 00:52:25 then we're going to be doing some get into fighting games. Got to catch up on some some some stuff. There's been a whole buildup of things but I think we're going to at least... I'll confirm later but I know for sure we're going to take a look at probably perhaps two things this Saturday.
Starting point is 00:52:41 One of which is Corrupt which is an Arkforged helped fighting game that I've been keeping an eye on for a couple Probably perhaps two things this Saturday one of which is corrupt which is an arc forged Helped fighting game that I've been keeping an eye on for a couple years now. That's that's finally dropped It's the one with the cool black people in armor doing air combos Okay, so I'm gonna jump in there Do you want to be a cool black people in armor doing combos? I mean, I'm only missing the armor, aren't I? That's great.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Whatever you say, kid. One day. He says as he adjusts his seat to make sure that his back doesn't get injured. Oh man. How's it going? Back injuries are so lame. They're so weak.
Starting point is 00:53:32 You're so weak. When your back is injured, you are the weakest you've ever been. Oh man, there's no way to look cool. You can't pretend to be strong. Why would you? Oh. God. I could go pretend to be strong. Why would you? Oh. God.
Starting point is 00:53:47 I can go out at any time? Just the thought that any stupid fucking seven-year-old could just run up and just kick you and go, yeah, in the back. And you're like, I'm defeated. I am undone. Low. My lineage has ended.
Starting point is 00:54:03 fun, low, my lineage has ended. Anyway, also the Evo FGC channel just put out a dubiously named Ask a Pro video where I answer some fighting game questions. I saw that come up and my first thought thought was like man. I bet well He's really unhappy with the name of this fucking video I bet he's super mad because we're gonna go into the podcast and I'm gonna be like, oh so mr Professional fighting game player that what is your advice as a winner of many tournaments and evolution events? So right up front
Starting point is 00:54:45 I said I don't like that and they're like yeah, well, that's what it is the name of them and we're doing it We're doing other stuff and that sucks and you will notice that frame one frame one I disarmed that shit Okay, but low and but clearly Yes, roll through comments and see the people that are like green texting, wooly, pro, lol, you know, like I know! I know! Trust me.
Starting point is 00:55:16 You're a professional fighting game person. The first five seconds of me calling that shit out is not enough for people to catch on apparently, because they see the title and thumbnail And just immediately go what the fuck does it think you're doing so bad. It sucks so bad. There's nothing I can do about it There's nothing but hey now you gotta get the professional feather in your cap You can hang on to that forever you put that on your social media I guess if you get so just simply getting paid to do a thing makes you a professional of that thing.
Starting point is 00:55:47 Well you are a professional fighting game journalist. Man. You know, actually, I have a deep pull for this because you said that money is what makes the difference. There is a home improvement joke that I remember from a child where Brad asks Tim Allen for help with his homework and he goes, what is a pronoun? And Tim goes, well, he goes, what an amateur noun would do for free, a pronoun does for money. Yeah, okay, okay. Right.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Yeah. I mean, anyway, this... Okay, more than anything, I feel sorry for Reggie, because Reggie has to put up with my stupid inferiority complex bullshit every time we go to anything and we're sitting like I'm always just like God I'm not this is not You know and he's just like yeah, dude we get it all right get over yourself Well, it would be probably easier for you to live your life if you were like loud and braggadocious and lost more Yes
Starting point is 00:57:10 Caring sucks like if you were just like straight garbage, and you're like I'm the best Because for so long Starting out just trying to make trying to get good at these games when you're like the absolute beginning, it's like, okay, I expect no acknowledgement from anyone in any way, shape or form. But there's that worry about like, okay, well, when the time comes,
Starting point is 00:57:37 what if you happen to be able to like, if I win this, I might get into top eight or something. You have all those nerves and that feeling of like, shit, people are watching. Oh, fuck, can I deliver?, I might get into top eight or something. You have all those nerves and that feeling of like, shit, people are watching. Oh fuck, can I deliver? Can I get it? Can I do it? And that's bad enough on a local level.
Starting point is 00:57:50 And then of course there's the years and years of like not doing that and being like, ah, fucking scrub, whatever, right? But then I'm also just flashing back to years and years of like early on in when like fighterpedia episodes would come out or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. And that and shit would get posted on shoryuken.com or on event hubs or on other fighting game websites. And like the FTC at large, a large group of people that I'm like, I'm actually trying to, to be relevant here and just be
Starting point is 00:58:21 good. Like, you know, I'm trying to make a name or do something. something and it'd be like who the fuck is this scrub and why are we seeing him on our page? Well he's a scrub that has a little bit of the gift of gab which is why you're seeing him here. Exactly and it's like yeah but that's not skills. It is! It is! It's not competitive skills. So I don't remember the names. That was the only currency that I lived in back then. So that is what you're hearing expressed in me years later. The only currency that matters is Alex Valle going, if you're not top eight, who the fuck are you?
Starting point is 00:59:00 And that's the value system. I don't remember the names. And that's great because I don't want to put anyone specific on blast. But I remember a really specific period of time where I saw professional Street Fighter players talking shit about Max. Because he wasn't winning tournaments, but his channel is gigantic and they were streaming to like nothing because they were doing silent online battles with nothing. Well I'm way better than Max, I could beat Max. How come Max is a big channel? Yeah exactly. It's like because he's an entertainer and people want to be entertained. That's it and it's relatable and it's good and it's content and it's good content and it gets
Starting point is 00:59:48 you in and if you're guess what? There's more people that are like that than there are like you. And that being said, Max is also pretty fucking good at a number of games. He's pretty good. But he's had that same kind of discussion and I remember talking to Kizike about this where like there's moments where you have to kind of like, like level with the audience in some cases, where people will kind of show up and ask that question and be like, Hey, so are you entering or like, Oh, how'd you do or just kind of like, seeing you in a competitive environment and thinking that you're going to be able to kind of do super well there. And it's like, if you see me streaming with you, that means I'm not training. That means I'm not competing. I'm not doing the things that you need to be good enough to make it that far. Right? You don't get to have your cake and eat it too. The dedication to become
Starting point is 01:00:39 as good as it takes to go as far as possible means you can't also be in the public eye to that full degree. It's a kind of a catch-22 with a lot of signed players really because when you get signed, some sponsors are like, we want you to place really well, but we also want you to be a big channel and we want you to be a larger consistent streamer. You want to be a personality like a wrestler kind of. Exactly, because that is another way for you to make money and for you to grow your brand and your name out there and stuff. And so people who struggle with the training regimen of staying on top of the game
Starting point is 01:01:12 versus being more of a content creator to fulfill those obligations or to grow the stream and to make more stuff, it pulls you away from the drive it takes to fucking win sometimes. And for some people, they can just stream labbing or they can stream, you know, jumping online and stuff. But like unless you're basically streaming your sets where you get in touch with other players that are as good as you and your and your long grinds, you know, like the birds, for example, do stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:01:49 It unfortunately becomes diametrically opposed at a point. So if you see somebody more and you get into their content because they're entertaining, you also don't really get to go like, oh, but I also expect you to be the champ, you know? And if you can, you're incredible. Anyone who is doing that is just goaded. But it's a moment you often hit where you go, hey, I'm going to be focusing more on this or on that.
Starting point is 01:02:09 And, you know, I've described it where I was like, yeah, entering tournaments is a secondary thing for me these days, obviously. I went to CEO Taku when I was there on doing stuff for holiday matsuri. I'm not entering CEO Taku. That's crazy. I'm doing multiple events every day. When the fuck would I find the time to just show up, sit there, get washed, and then have the person sitting next to you be like, oh shit, I'm a big fan, you got me into these games.
Starting point is 01:02:35 I'd be like, yeah, cool, you destroyed me. I haven't touched this game in months and I'm signing up just to be like what? So that's real. Yeah, the combination makes no sense. Like I had a brief moment, a brief moment in the sun where I was the world's most popular Virtua Fighter streamer. There you go.
Starting point is 01:02:54 For like a couple hours. And then Fudo came on. There you go, yes. And Fudo, I think I got like a top of 1.6 and he got like 2.6. And I'm like, does that mean I'm half as good as Fudo at Urge of Fighter? The world champion? No it doesn't! Holy shit, no it doesn't! But yeah, but like when you don't know at all
Starting point is 01:03:20 when you're just like the difference between being kind of good and being god tier is all the same to you It certainly can feel like it so it's like so you're gonna enter and you're gonna at least get Like top 16 then right if not top 8. Oh totally Well, I have to say the way you talk about fighting games sometimes you come off like a about fighting games sometimes you come off like a hustler you come off like a guy who is setting up the second set of money matches that you then also lose mm-hmm and then where's the hustle wait what you were gonna I thought you were you're setting me up rip me off what the fuck I said it in the video man but it's like nah it's just I
Starting point is 01:04:05 just want these games to not die they're really fun and I like them they're doing good yeah they're doing good that's it and you are directly responsible for a small piece of that I mean when we popped in like infinite you know like and beyond it was like oh man shit I remember this game was so much fun back in the day okay how the fuck do I do a bread and butter? Like what did I used to do? I don't remember LMH launch LMH what you know, like it's yeah, it takes a second white puns Heavy puns and then and then you know when kizzy was like to his channel like hey guys I'm actually gonna start competing for real again. So you're gonna see less videos and less content and it's like yeah, it's
Starting point is 01:04:46 Not what you want if you're just a few if you're a viewer, but like it is the reality of it You know, so anyway all but like I think I think there's so much interest in that specific Just before we get on because it applies to other games too like my my expertise on this is like I Remember I was like, oh, I'm going to go raid with my friends in 14 and people would be like, you should stream that. I'm like, that would be the most miserable fucking experience ever. Like the idea of streaming your, your raid cycle and then like, well, world first does it. Well, world first is a race. And
Starting point is 01:05:21 also every world first winner for like six world firsts have gotten caught cheating because they're streaming it. Yeah. No, no, no. It's just no thank you to any of that. I did stream like some of the games like when I was going hard on on balotro like I did, you know, I did that once, I did a bit of Into the Breach and those kind of relaxation games and stuff. But it's not always going to be
Starting point is 01:05:52 a great stream for things like that. Anyway, anyway, this is all nothing to do with, of course, picking up these games and finding out why they're fun for the first time. This is just shit from years of being here. Me talking about 0.01% of the people that play these games and the competitive bullshit there. The mental stack grows by the day. And this does not apply at all to fucking everybody who's listening to this. I am so excited to see what happens with 2XKO on Twitch and YouTube because you're going to see league people jump in on 2XKO.
Starting point is 01:06:37 Like those two worlds will intermingle and it's like adding piss to a swimming pool. I think it'll be similar to like when Dragon Ball had a lot of Dragon Ball streamers show up that were not fighting game players, but primarily all Dragon Ball other content. They roll in for a while and then they filter out and then a couple linger that are like super into it after about two months time. Takes about two months, you know? It feels like, and then when a character or a big drop that's lore important happens,
Starting point is 01:07:16 it kind of picks back up again, you know? So when Broly drops, holy shit, when Vi comes to to x ko then that's gonna be a big whatever man this game sucks i'm going back to xeno verse a real video game that line man that those signups eclipse to the dragon ball fighter signups signups, eclipse to the Dragon Ball Fighter signups. Anyways. Speaking of, oh boy. What's going on? I don't know if it's news, but did you see Mortal Kombat's going to be at EVO this year?
Starting point is 01:07:57 Did you see it? I guess I missed that news. Oh yeah, here's the new, well it happened while you were setting up. So the lineup for this year, Street Fighter 6, Tekken 8, Guilty Gear Strive, Grand Blue Fantasy vs Rising, Under Night In Birth 2, MK1, City of the Wolves, and MVC 2. Yay, City of the Wolves. Yeah. I would like to quote 1KZ Excellent friend of the show quote people will sign up to Mortal Kombat 1 and then immediately celebrate being put into the top 32 and quote. I mean the combo breaker sign up numbers I remember were there were twice there was like
Starting point is 01:08:47 You know Tekken was like like I think broke a thousand and you know guilty gear and Street Fighter were also around there Samurai Showdown had 70 entrance and no MK one had about double that Okay, so 140 ish? Shy of 200, I believe, is where they were at. I bet you could get more Virtua Fighter V Revo entrance than MK1. This is a travesty. Considering it's a big triumphant return and considering the people playing it don't hate it, probably. yeah, I imagine so. Because what doesn't get talked about as much is the state,
Starting point is 01:09:35 the state of the people that are playing it. I feel it's rough out there, man. That is a real weird criteria. That is a... There's always the percentage of people that are competing in a game that absolutely loathe it, and they're crucial, they're essential, but here they're all that's left. Oh man, that's weird. That's so weird. All right. What's been going on with Pat this week? I have many things to discuss. Let's start with the most important thing in my life.
Starting point is 01:10:12 My human child, my baby boy who has learned to lie. Oh no. It is one of the developmental milestones. It is one of the developmental milestones. It is one of the nightmare milestones where you're like, this is a high level brain concept. It's good for the boy. It's the start. It's the start of the nightmare.
Starting point is 01:10:39 The power of deceit. So we gave the baby boy one of his baby crackers that he likes called baby num num and he's eaten it up. And then it's called officially baby num num. Yes, the video the the baby num nums that is in the old go to Walmart video from like 11 years ago is a product that I am feeding to my child. Wow. Because it's my child. Wow. Because it's baby crackers.
Starting point is 01:11:06 Okay. And he took it and he broke it in half and he ate half and we're like, that's good. And then he looked at this dog, walked over to the dog, put the entire cracker inside the dog's mouth. And then I went, Hey, no. And he looked at me, took a step back and then pretended to eat the nothing in his hand. It wasn't just verbal. It was a whole, it was a whole act out. It was a pantomime. Holy shit, that's advanced.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Oh no. And then, and here's the best part. After he finished eating the nothing, he did the taps and went more. More. And it's like, are you serious? You didn't eat anything. The brazen.
Starting point is 01:12:07 I'm looking right at you! Deception, oh shit. Oh, okay. Test the bad guys. We're also going through a sleep regression, which I don't know if you saw any of my skeets about it, but me and Paige were in bed at midnight last night, going, oh my God, I want to go to sleep.
Starting point is 01:12:25 And the baby is like literally running a circuit around the bed with his toys going, ah, little do you know that's 40 chess where he's trying to tire you out so that more lies can work effectively. It's working, man. It's working. He's also... So the sleep regression is what causes the rapid mental advancement. So babies don't progress normally. They progress in huge bursts. It has also come along with the ability to do tasks that we ask him. Can you give me that? Can
Starting point is 01:13:08 you go get your milk? Can you close that drawer? All of a sudden, like that, understands all random words out of our sentences. So... the lockdown on language in the house is starting now. Ah, okay. The baby's walking around trying to say the word dicks right now.
Starting point is 01:13:40 Okay, okay, okay, it mat- yep, got it. It matters. It's only a matter of time before he says fuck Ruh-roh and then we have to pretend he saw it on TV Oh Out to watch like like the baby watches the podcast the baby watches my show when I'm doing when it's just like big-headed me And I'm talking not when the game is running Yeah, that may have to stop cuz I can't stop swearing on this on this program. I don't have the ability to do that
Starting point is 01:14:10 That's hard. You will never fiscally recover from from going PG. No, no, I can't go PG. No, it's attitude forever We've all that's going on we've already taken the losses in awards and and invitations We can't go back now. Yeah That's going on I hung out with One Ashley Roboto last week and was the last week. I guess it was we played some classic World of Warcraft First of all Ashley's a sweetheart. What a wonderful lady. Though it did show off, you know that first time
Starting point is 01:14:51 you collaborate with somebody and you hit this line where you see the line in the sand on your personality? Oh, oh yeah, because you love to test the waters. So that's not what happened. That's not what I'm talking about. OK, it's not what I'm talking about. OK, OK, I do do that. You do that. It is fun.
Starting point is 01:15:10 Let's just find the line right away. But no, I'm not talking about that. So we're playing Classic WoW on a perma death server. And Ashley is describing how there's a chat channel that announces your death to the entire server when you die in Classic WoW Perma. And so she taught me how to turn it on. And sure enough, within a couple of minutes, like, oh, this person died and it tells you their level and it tells you their character's
Starting point is 01:15:35 name and it tells you what killed them. Right. And she's telling the story about how like, it kind of sucks sometimes because You'll die but because the server blasts your name out there People who are total dickheads will like whisper you and be like get good idiot. You suck And as she is in the process of saying oh, it's so terrible. I'm like oh that sounds awesome. I mean oh No, that's mean and toxic Yeah, okay, okay So like the reason the reason why different people play MMOs is different if I'm gonna play World of Warcraft I want the absolute most dogshit experience possible. I mean Again some people are having social RPs with their tunes. Yeah. So I was gonna say that
Starting point is 01:16:31 sounds like you had a fun time with this despite the actual thing that you were playing. So which is the least of what we're discussing right now. Here's where it gets complex. So World of Warcraft is now in the strangest place it's ever been because they have their retail WoW, which I... Fuck it. Let's just put that whole thing to the side. And then they have Classic WoW. And what they did with Classic WoW is they said, hey, here's World of Warcraft as it
Starting point is 01:16:59 was in 2004. And then here's Burning Crusade, which was the expansion to World of Warcraft. And then we added it a year later. And then here's Lich King, which is that expansion. And this encompasses classic World of Warcraft. And then they said, hey, you know what we should roll into classic? Let's keep it going. So they have classic World of Warcraft cataclysm. The third one. The thing that everyone started saying we need World of Warcraft classic because cataclysm is the big change that tons of people hated. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:17:39 That changed all the zones. Yeah. Did, so when these changes come out, they're like server wide changes to the classic game. Yeah. So your time to experience it being its old version is only that initial release period. Yeah. So instead of a two year release window, they're on one year release window. So you're like catching up faster. but can you just play like can you play a server without it? So here's where it gets complicated because I'm I heard about Cataclysm being in classic. I'm like why the fuck would anyone ever play classic wow?
Starting point is 01:18:17 It's not even fucking classic wow anymore, so now there is a second batch of servers Okay, that are Wow classic Classic okay, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, if you wanted to go back to that exact version Yeah And what is probably going to happen is it is probably going to end up in a situation that when the classic classic servers get to Kata, the original classic servers will be like six expansions in but not cut up to retail and then they will make
Starting point is 01:18:52 a classic classic classic set of servers and then when the classic original servers catch up those servers will roll back into the new classic classic classic classic This is the dumbest shit ever The problem is that it's trying to appease to the nostalgia of a giant group of people that all feel differently about these things So so if there's a consensus that the third one was where it all went bad, then there's a whole lot of people
Starting point is 01:19:29 that won't go past that point. But for those that are, there's those that want to go back to that specific time. And how do you fucking do this without, how, what, I don't know how you do this. How do you make people happy? So like, here's where I'm at. at how I don't like cataclysm and I don't care about anything past Cataclysm the only version of wow that I want to play is the wow that existed from 2004 to 2008 or nine ish
Starting point is 01:19:57 Right. That's all I'm interested in So yeah, I'll go I'll fuck around in the old Version of it because that was fun. I did not like Cataclysm. It was not fun to me. And now they are in this rotating, writhing mass of versions. So all I can think of, because you know, it's me,
Starting point is 01:20:19 you put out an anniversary collection and you're like, hey, did you like hyper fighting? Is that the one you want to play? Well, then that like, hey, did you like hyper fighting? Is that the one you wanna play? Well then that's one of the options you can pick here. That is actually how it works. Yeah, and that's the only way, cause you're like, I'm the one,
Starting point is 01:20:33 I'm the one that wants that one version of Blanka from that one version of the game. That is how it works, because when you sub to World of Warcraft, you are subbing to all of them simultaneously. And you actually pick which one you wanna load into on a dropdown bar. When you sub to World of Warcraft, you are subbing to all of them simultaneously. And you actually pick which one you want to load into on a drop-down bar. And there's no other way to make people happy.
Starting point is 01:20:52 And if you understand that you're like, I want to experience that old thing more than I care about being on a populated server, then so be it. There you go. You'll be by yourself. Oh, don't worry. All servers are populated. Okay. Well, great. There you go. You'll be by yourself. Oh, don't worry. All servers are populated. Okay. Well great forever great But yeah, I see there's no other way than splitting this by well, what the fuck do you want to play then?
Starting point is 01:21:13 You know, there's there's so much other weird shit happening. So here's one of the problems with classic Wow MMOs are designed to be completed and then you have your high-end ray and all that shit But they're always designed to be added on to forever, right? Classic WoW is solved. Where to go, what to get, what skills, what party layouts, where to stand, what... It is solved. There is a spreadsheet out there that is how to beat World of Warcraft classic
Starting point is 01:21:47 Mm-hmm, and it and it's complete and it's been complete for a really really long time But isn't that and that's why it's actually fun to play on the permadeath realms Because I know how to get to level cap in classic because I know how to get to level cap in classic, but getting to level cap in classic without dying even a single time is actually really hard. Right, okay. Well, I was gonna say, like, doesn't the fact that it's solved
Starting point is 01:22:13 are not kind of irrelevant, because the only reason why you're going back is because nostalgia, and you just want the vibes of playing the way you used to remember? When WoW, so WoW was solved back in 2005 or six, right? But then when Classic came out, it was solved again, but it was solved in a world with Twitch and Discord and you know, Wikia's and shit that were not there
Starting point is 01:22:40 back in 2004. So the information existed and people knew it, but now it has been wrapped up into Atom. So that period of Classic was like people re-solving it. But like, is anyone looking for a challenge or are they just looking to hang out with their friends in the old servers that they used to? I mean, if you're playing on the hardcore server, yes, you are looking for a challenge. Okay.
Starting point is 01:23:08 Because it is actually really, really, really hard to hit level cap without dying. I kind of would think that most of it is kind of just like, yeah, we're trying to just go, you know. The other thing that somebody points out is that a lot of WoWs like raid content back in 2005 and six was actually super easy It's just nobody knew how to play MMOs
Starting point is 01:23:30 Like nobody was good at it at the time back then okay Overall yeah had fun actually had to go to dinner and within ten minutes of actually going to dinner I died and my character got deleted So she was totally carrying my ass for real. Is the deletion process, like, do you have to do it yourself? It's so cruel. It's so cruel. You die and you get the ghost form
Starting point is 01:23:57 that lets you do the corpse run, but the corpse won't let you interact with it. Oh, it's set up to not work. Okay, okay, so like So like yeah you your characters there. They're just but they're fucking dead and they're ghosts and so you have to go out and delete it It's so mean Is that like a custom server setting that you can kind of do to mess with the game kind of thing? I mean a wow classic is based off of people running private WoW servers. Okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:24:30 And I remember saying, man, you know what they should do? They should have a parallel development where they just have a new expansion to instead of Kata and just have a complete separate game Split off. Oh my god. Oh my god a new thing coming out a classic To which I was told that actually exists and they're doing it right now They are doing something called season of discovery, which is the classic guts With a completely new set of mechanics and custom server shit all over the place. Well, I guess if they've already got your sub,
Starting point is 01:25:11 then it doesn't matter what you're paying for. Splitting the attention is not a big deal. Because I was gonna say, why would you, as a big company, be like, I'm gonna spend time and shit on new effort put towards this and not the main thing we're trying to push people to. It's kind of like a Diablo season or like a Path of Exile season. And you know what?
Starting point is 01:25:35 Having WoW Classic and WoW Retail and all this shit all in the same sub is so cost effective. And because it's so cost effective that you're getting access to all these games that's why the monthly rate can be 2250 Canadian a month because it's the full package because it's everything okay okay that's a lot that's a lot it is a lot it is ridiculous but think of all the different versions of World of Warcraft you could play. How popular is, like, vanilla WoW? Well, WoW current? It's poppin'. Even when FF14 was, like, really coming up and doing crazy numbers, and maybe passing. Wow has always still been popping in the background. The people that are in are so in and like,
Starting point is 01:26:31 there was like one of the things that came up when I was talking to Ashley, she's like, I started playing World of Warcraft when I was 12 years old and my body went, oh, what? Cause that changes the context of that relationship with that game so dramatically. Cause there was a moment some years ago where I remember, I thought that 14 had just fully swallowed WoW players and fully replaced it and took the spot, dethroned it, and it turned out that it's like, well, sort of, but there's still a lot of people
Starting point is 01:27:08 that were on it, and admittedly, a lot of the people that I know were just way more interested in 14 than in WoW. But- That's because you know weebs. Exactly, so my skew, you know, my algorithm is different. It's skewed towards Final Fantasy weeb shit, you know So that's it, but there's still a lot of people that yeah, but uh, but uh is classic like comparing
Starting point is 01:27:35 numerically To why I don't know you could look it up. I bet I know that I know that ff14 is Dipped under a million because of people just bailing after dawn trail. Ff14 was on this like huge upward climb in quality and dawn trail feels like kind of a misstep. I'm definitely not the only person who is no longer playing it. Looking for something so this kind of pops in. Like I can't see myself ever going back to wow cuz it's like Evil but it was fun to play with Ashley. I'm gonna play it again
Starting point is 01:28:12 On Monday, we haven't made super concrete plans The second thing that I did is that I was like, you know what, did I talk about the Guild Wars thing last week with the controller thing? You mentioned finding out that the solution existed the whole time. So then what I did is that I went crazy and spent like an entire evening up until three in the morning building a Steam input controller profile for Guild Wars 2 so that I could play that game like a regular video game on a controller. That's not crazy.
Starting point is 01:28:52 That's completely reasonable. And I put it out there. I linked it to people. And it does work. It works. It actually totally works. And it's just like, yeah, no, I'm probably going to be playing a lot of Guild Wars 2 in the future.
Starting point is 01:29:08 Okay, so. Because. MMO scratch itch. Well, the other thing is that Guild Wars 2 is like utilizing the shocking buy to play system for its monthly sub. That was the one that was free, but you would buy each new thing. The way that it originally worked is that you would, um, you would buy the game and it just had no sub. Right.
Starting point is 01:29:36 And then if you, you bought the expansion, it would also have no sub. Right. And the idea was that they could keep it going with a cosmetic shop and like yearly or bi-yearly expansions. I remember when Min told me about that years ago and I was like that's really honest. I respect that. I don't know how profitable that makes it but good on them for you know not having the same setup especially from way back when. Hey I'd like to somebody made a good point in one of the chat, because every time I talk about Dawn Trail, people get like kind of mad. Someone says, Pat, you
Starting point is 01:30:10 called Dawn Trail the third best expansion, said you loved it, and then the next time you mentioned it here said it was a complete fall off and you felt that the whole time. Yeah, that's post nut clarity or recency bias. That's you beat the game and you're like, wow, that was great. And then you go back to play it and you're like wow that was great and then you go back to play it and you're like I don't feel it that's that's all that is as soon as you pull your dick out you're like oh no I should have faked it what I'm surprised by though is that like if the latest expansion like missteps that the remaining 90% is like also kind of like done, you know?
Starting point is 01:30:55 Well the other thing is that for 14 I'm having a specific thing which happens to a lot of people which is I've been redlining thelining the current content on that game for like eight years. And it's always the same structure, and it's always the same layout, and it's always the same rollout over and over and over and over and over and I was like grinding out a class that I didn't intend to play so that the number would look good on my character sheet and then I was like what the fuck am I doing? Yeah, yeah. What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:31:36 That's a yeah that that's there's a problem with that way of playing it and this kind of you know outcome, I guess. But... So those of you who have played FF14, I looked at my weekly tomes being 450 and I'm like, I've been getting weekly tomes at 450 for seven and a half, eight years. I'm fucking so done with getting my weekly 450 tomes. And there's no like. Other content that's out there that's just like untouched. I did a lot of shit in that game.
Starting point is 01:32:13 Yeah, I did. I did a lot of shit in that game. Just a ton of shit. Well, I mean. I don't know, like if you're paying for a monthly thing, there should be a feeling that within those four weeks, you're getting as much enjoyment as your your, your stuff has been worth. So, you know, yeah. Okay. In the process of going back to Guild Wars two, though, I did find out that ArenaNet is totally working on Guild Wars 3, which is exciting.
Starting point is 01:32:49 And the second thing is that I found out that NetEase is working on a Warhammer MMO. And it's a really good batch of timing for me to have learned about it this week? Because if I learned about that three months ago, I would have been like, oh man, Nettys is making aww crap. But now that we're playing Marvel rivals, I don't know. It's a coin flip. Now there surely must have been failed attempts in the past, right? There was. It was called Warhammer Age of Reckoning. Okay, because I'm like, there's zero chance Warhammer has not clearly taken the obvious step into MMO money.
Starting point is 01:33:35 Yeah. Warhammer Age of Reckoning was fascinating because it was made by EA and it was not great, but it had some stuff going on that was cool. And the main distinction, I think it was a public quest system or a queuing system, I forget what it was. But of note is that it showed off all of its cool new features, and then Blizzard was able to develop them into the next wow expansion and release before that Oh Shit hit him with the fucking fortnight, baby. Yeah
Starting point is 01:34:20 And they killed it Killed it out. Yeah. Yeah That's cuz like the only the only thing that this game had going for it was warhammer which Warcraft is incredibly similar to and It's new features which wow just put in and wow is the biggest best thing ever and this is 2008 This is during the peak of the peak in war in Wow Yo Apex had no chance apex launch or die man 2008 this during the peak of the peak in war in wow Yo Apex had no chance apex launch or die man Holy shit
Starting point is 01:34:51 They just fucking took it God is ass there is there is a really fun thing I don't know if you've encountered this but like when I streamed a little bit of guild wars 2 and gone over it and was Like wow this game was so weird it had so much more voice acting. It had Jen, it has Jen Hale, Steve Blum, Matt Mercer, uh, Nolan North as like all the main, as your character. Um, and this thing that happens, you go, Oh, I'm going to stream this somewhat obscure older multiplayer game. and it's like you winter soldier activate like ten people in your chat that like were absolute fucking fiends about it the whole time mm-hmm like it's weird it's fucking weird okay okay um also, so the Warhammer MMO was a victim of getting their shit stolen by Blizzard then?
Starting point is 01:35:51 By Warcraft. Yeah. Yeah. Oh boy. Damn. Yeah, all right. It's... So I would not...
Starting point is 01:35:59 So like, we're talking about the Warhammer MMO. Yeah. Oh Boy damn It's So I would not so like we're going it like I would not be shocked That like we would not see anything about this warhammer MMO until it's like fucking six months away Like just the a just like when the open beta happens That's the announcement of the apex legends like drop the fuck you were not saying shit drop. It's the only way I respect it Speaking of which you know when we were talking about rivals and
Starting point is 01:36:39 How It's just like shameless in its over watchinging and its other, every piece that it takes from every other active game, its Fortnite parts and stuff. I was booting up and like that sound it makes when you queue up and a game is found is the exact instrument sound from the Apex Legends theme song.
Starting point is 01:37:03 There's a little hollow echo synthy noise that goes You hear when you're loading up in apex and like fuck me if they didn't find a way to just activate That neuron to I was like, what is that? Why do I it's a super right? I was like, what is that? Why do I, it's Apex. You're super right. You're super right. That's so deliberate. It's an exact hollow echoing ring noise
Starting point is 01:37:31 that's deliberately chosen because if you played that game for a bit, you might feel for something. You know? I wow, wow at that game. Man, I would kill for a good Warhammer MMO, man. That is a setting slash property that just... Well, I mean, WoW proved it. You could do a good Warhammer MMO. It could be done. I would like it to do. Let's see what's coming. I forgot to talk about it, but yeah played some more rivals as well. It's good. It's very good and
Starting point is 01:38:09 I initially got comfortable with you know the beta characters like I was playing like magic and Iron Man heavily, but Holy shit moon night is A very good DPS. Hey listen, is aiming for pussies? If you think this, Moon Knight is for you. Can you strategically place your Ankh though? Don't fuck up, you gotta place the Ankh right. And if they turn around to target it,
Starting point is 01:38:36 make sure you punish them for that. Moon Knight's really good. Moon Knight's great. I've made some crazy plays and like saved entire matches by just taking him off the front lines to the side, confusing people from where they're being hit from and or making them chase the onk around and then like hitting the point. Yeah, it's like, you know, as somebody who's like, hey, look, I know my aiming is gonna be compromised in all situations.
Starting point is 01:39:08 Can I find a way to? Well, there's characters for that. Yeah, compensate for that. And it's funny because I'm like, in as much as I know that you should be, if you're sniping, if you're playing anyone that snipes, you should be dropping people like X number per second or whatever.
Starting point is 01:39:26 But I like the melee characters besides enjoying that. Because yeah, it's a different form of what's useful to the team. So they put out the patch notes today. And I looked over them and we're not going to go into them because they're hyper specific. But my takeaway from them and what I seem to see others is that these are really good patch notes. They're like the changes are very minor, but they're all in the right directions. Like there's no big huge hard swings of like, Oh, that's too much. Right. It's like maybe 25 extra health here or
Starting point is 01:40:06 10% less damage on this character just so they don't to tap someone okay soft stuff like hella Got a little bit of a nerf so she can't to tap you in Instantly yeah, okay, because hella is incredible that she was storm got buffed because she's the worst character in the entire game. What about Captain America? He got a little bit of buff too. Yeah, they're underutilized for sure. I don't think I've played a single game with a black widow in it either. I have played one. We lost.
Starting point is 01:40:36 So there you go. It does feel though like I don't have a balance problem with Hulk. I just continue to have a balance problem with Hulk. I just continue to have a identity problem with him. I have a pro tip for you for Hulk. Uh huh. I have a massive pro tip for you. So I hated Hulk and then I went into the options and there's an option you can change that
Starting point is 01:41:00 changes the way Hulk plays completely. There is an option in his personal hero controls that is hold jump to charge your jump. If you turn that off, when you tap jump, he will just start passively generating the leap, and you can just tap jump again to leap away. Oh, interesting. So you leap in and as soon as you hit the ground, you hit space bar or left trigger, do all your shit,
Starting point is 01:41:35 and then when you wanna leave, the jump has just been charged and it auto charges you in the background. Wow, that's like fucking a fantasy strike, like Yomi shit, okay Cuz that's what that's how Hulk is supposed to work You're supposed to jump in go ba ba ba ba and jump away over and over and over and over and over okay? nice
Starting point is 01:41:59 The Was I saying? Yeah, iron fist is also a fucking awesome pick He's a fucking menace is what he is. I love him and I love the fact that it's like, okay Am I playing on a team with fucking? Whatever we like one healer and five DPS's or so And in a lot of cases, I'll be like fine. I'll go heal right, but if I don't feel like it I'll just be like nah, I'll just pick a self-sustaining character and he's great for that. It's like, okay, don't heal me
Starting point is 01:42:30 I'll be fine go in menace harass jump away heal I think they were so brave by making the most popular character that's ever existed Spider-man the most technically most popular character that's ever existed, Spider-Man, the most technically complex character in the whole game. And then didn't adjust it too much after the fact on release either. So like, every Spider-Man you see is either dog shit or that's actually Peter Parker playing the game.
Starting point is 01:42:56 Oh my God. I noticed as well, some stuff got very drastically changed. Like the team up ability that Magic and Black Panther had, it was a two-way portal that only they could use. It was just not good enough. It was not good enough for the sacrifice of having two of your DPSs be melee characters. They made it so that there's the passive damage buff and the rewind heal kind of ability where you get HP back as well.
Starting point is 01:43:28 So yeah, no, I'm not an Insta-lock DPS, by the way. I'll play whatever role is needed depending on how other people float. I highlight my character. I highlight my character, but I don't lock in until I see more commitments. and then in a lot of cases I'll be like well, let me synergize with whoever's going so I see a cloak and dagger you bet you bet your ass I'm going moon night because we I've been playing a lot of Loki
Starting point is 01:43:55 Yeah, cuz I everyone locks in their deeps and then I go, you know, I'll play fucking Loki There's a hell on the team. Fuck it. If you can If you can get a benefit going, 100%. And so yeah, the trailer for Fantastic Four dropped. And I don't know, I don't really know what I was expecting, but it's like, yeah, Mr. Fantastic is gonna fucking dalsum your ass. And Sue is gonna make people invisible. That's it. Which, depending on how that alt works for your team from the outside, might be the most completely insane thing in the game. The trailer doesn't give you an impression for how long it's gonna last exactly, but...
Starting point is 01:44:39 Well, you put it on the point and nobody can see into it. Nobody can see anything. I think your team can see into it, maybe. If it's truly... It's not clear. If it's your team can see into it. I think your team can see into it maybe? If it's truly, if it's your team can see the enemy but they can't see you and that lasts like 10 seconds or something, that's insane. And if it's only- Oh yeah, cause it means like anyone who walks in
Starting point is 01:44:57 will just get vaporized by the entire team. Versus if it's only outside the circle versus inside the circle vision. That's a different type You know I would assume that you could you blind people unless you're okay people are saying that it heals allies and slows Enemies within the invisibility also, but and your team can see into it, but can the enemy see the You while in the circle and yes, if they're in the circle they can see you while in the circle? Yes. If they're in the circle, they can see you.
Starting point is 01:45:29 Okay, only outside. But you're being healed? Yes. You're being healed and they're being slowed. Okay, because basically that's the important part. Is it blind for everyone in the circle right away and outside? Yeah, no. She's essentially throwing down the Thunderdome with advantage. Yeah, that's fucking, that's a really good ult. That's great. And I guess, yeah, I mean, we'll see what thing and
Starting point is 01:46:02 Johnny end up being. I'm so fascinated by what thing is going to be in that he will not be the Hulk. Is he going to just hit harder? Is he going to be kind of what I thought Hulk would be for his kit? He might be. He might be the Hulk character that I thought I was going to get. Yeah, because Hulk is a backline harasser or like, you know a Winston is kind of one thing the shielding ability is like it makes sense. It's just not what I thought he'd be
Starting point is 01:46:35 So I didn't think when I was playing Hulk in my in my shooter video game that Hulk's primary use would be to make Iron Man's right click 10 times stronger. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah, the passive buff on his. It's such a big deal. Yeah. Anyway, it's like, the main thing I was unhappy about was his damage, and it seems like that's better now.
Starting point is 01:47:04 But his role just is not what I would think a Hulk role would be. Like Hulk almost feels like a, okay, the equivalent of ignoring your own team to go off and do your own thing, here is like to be that back line harasser, which you can do with the melee characters or with your
Starting point is 01:47:25 Venom style, you know, get in and get out. But like, it almost feels as if like, he should completely be like separate from the rest of the team in a way. He should just be out of control. And like, I'm just thinking like almost like lore wise, like the idea of like even him even protecting the team. It's probably not great balancing wise, but no Doesn't it just doesn't gel with what we think of when we're like, yo, we're gonna like in ultimate talk
Starting point is 01:47:53 For example, it's just like we're unleashing him over there. Get the fuck away, right? Let him do his thing Yeah, you gotta make narrative sacrifices for For gameplay balance and that's why all of these characters are from all different universes so they can be slightly different Yeah, and and you know I can see the pushback on it like wooly which he's clearly does and I Get that like he fills that role. It's just When you think about what Hulk is you know it feels as if he's just out of control berserk doing his own shit All power nuts and like very little support ability Coming out of that dude. You know for for lore purposes or whatever
Starting point is 01:48:31 That new season is Friday Cool I mean, I don't know if you saw the skins they're cool I I did see that that second invisible woman skin and Yes, that one They know who they're selling to And the part where it's like What the fuck is this guy? Oh, it's real Oh, that's canon, that's actually from the 70s or some shit Yeah
Starting point is 01:48:56 I'm like, you found a fucking gooter skin from the 70s And you brought that shit back I found it I found it Of course you can there's always something there's always a skin yeah good stuff you do what you got to do you know I also man I had a big week this week also it does this week lasted ten days technically right also played a game called Crypt Master. What's that?
Starting point is 01:49:25 Have you seen Crypt Master? No. So, Crypt Master, they put out a statement a little bit ago that they won a bunch of awards but they're having trouble getting eyeballs on the game. So, I was like, I'll stream it, I'll show that game off because it's incredible. So Cryptmaster is entirely in black and white, old school tile based dungeon crawler in which your characters have lost their memory and you have to type to hit or zap or jab or trap or use their attacks. Oh, this looks cool.
Starting point is 01:49:59 And when you go to a chest in order to get the item or the attack out of the chest, you have to essentially play a game of Wordle with the Cryptmaster. Interesting. And it is a full-scale role-playing game alongside these rules where the game is constantly talking to you and asking you to type back to it, and there's a million lines of voice acting for every possible response. It's incredible. It's fucking amazing.
Starting point is 01:50:26 Did your account get thrown on a list because of the first letters in this being crypt? Because I feel as if the moment you talk about Crypt of the Neckardancer or Crypt anything and crypto bots just show up and start fucking... Nah. No, it's great. Cryptmaster's fantastic. You should all check it out. That is not a sponsored opinion. start fucking yeah no it's it's great crypt masters fantastic you shall check it out that is not a sponsored opinion I just think that games really cool that's a very cool art style yeah I also played Dungeons and Dragons this week with my Dragon's Group. How is that going? So right off the bat the DM sat down and was like,
Starting point is 01:51:11 hey everybody, everybody, I'm going to be talking at certain points and people are going to have their moments and we're all going to let everyone have their moment and talk and take their turns. You know that very traditional like, I can't point a finger because then we're going to have a fight. So instead, we're going to diffuse this across the whole group, right? Are we going to agree to like mute buttons and? No, no, no, no. But basically, you know, and everyone went, yeah,
Starting point is 01:51:45 absolutely no problem. DM. And to Jimmy's extreme credit, Jimmy was a million times better. This, this session, good job. Way, way, way better. Great. I, I briefly mentioned, Oh, I switched over to a cleric because I didn't want to be a second warlock. And he was like, Oh, that's great. That means that we can make bigger mistakes now that we have a cleric. And I was like, that's right. And then we later did. Session was great. There was one thing that was a little strange and that was when we arrived, there was an eight year old child sitting
Starting point is 01:52:20 at the D and D table. Okay. And I was like, Oh, I wonder if this is like a relative of the DM or they're going to get picked up. No. So the DM is like walking in from outside having smoked his DM weed, which is, you know, and I'm starting to put drinks away because that's what I do. Turns out this kid is one of the players children and will be joining us. Okay. And to the kids credit, he was all right. Yeah, I see. No, that doesn't I don't raise any eyebrows at that. That's fine. As's not I would raise an eyebrow at Surprise children at a late night D&D session with weed and alcohol
Starting point is 01:53:19 Okay, well I guess if it's being consumed right out like yeah but Like and I guess it's someone it's a kid of someone who's there, who's playing? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Because we were playing on a different day than we usually do, so I assume that was like
Starting point is 01:53:33 a custody situation. Yeah, the kid's alright. Kid was cool. He got a little bored at the end. If you're chill and you can keep up and have fun. Well, wait a second I'm okay in theory providing you're a chill kid. I have no problem with that Well, wait just a second. All right, so when we were playing D&D and in general the kid was actually very nice and chill He's like eight or nine or some shit. He was all right. Yeah
Starting point is 01:54:00 But I'm like, oh hello. I'm Pat Introduced myself to the child and hold my hand out as you do. Right. I was a little, a little weirded out. I didn't expect this, this situation, but okay. And the kid walks past my hand and full palm taps me on my bald spot and then walks past me and goes, hi. Okay. this kid rules
Starting point is 01:54:28 This kids a fucking hero is what you're saying he's based as fuck and I just like standing there tell me You didn't tell me the child was based Pat. You didn't tell me the child was based This kids unstoppable, all right Okay, this is my supposed to be my DND thing. Established he knows how to play. I respect it. I admire it. Also man like eight year olds and nine year olds are tall now man. That's not fair. Damn. Shouldn't be able to touch me on top of my head but that's that's how God did me. Man said you're malding and hey nice to meet you in one fell swoop.
Starting point is 01:55:03 So like the only thing is is like if I was going to go to like a meetup of Acquaintances or friends or whatever I would expect someone to just tell me that there would be a child there. I Mean, do they kind of say hey, there's a new person joining like before you show no not even that not even that Okay, it was so weird. Is this a casual drop-in drop-out kind of group? I don't know! I don't think so! Because sometimes that's a thing, you know. I remember one group I played with, there was friends that would be there less frequently and they kind of had character sheets if they popped in.
Starting point is 01:55:43 I have no idea. I have no idea if that kid is going to be like another party member or that was just like a one off. Also back in the day, I don't know if this is- Never came up. Back in the day the DM had, excuse me, you know how like there's like NPC character sheets? Some, like he would have like a simplified sheet for people that were rolling with us and someone could take that over. Yeah, that is what happened.
Starting point is 01:56:11 Okay, yeah. So it's that. Okay. We did that back in the day, I remember. But yeah, I can't express enough that the kid was cool. Especially for an eight-year-old, he did a really good job. So far, so good. But like, I don't know what's going on with me trying to play D&D that I'm running into like every possible, conceivable, like foremost shenanigans, like week in, week out. I mean, you're meeting people.
Starting point is 01:56:40 This is the outside world. This is, what is there to say? I've met people before. You're meeting D&D players. That's true. That is true. That is pretty much it for me this week. The remainder of the week,
Starting point is 01:56:58 tomorrow I'm going to do some backlog stuff, and then Friday I'm going to be playing Metal Gear Solid 2. Oh right! I beat MGS1 last night. Yeah. For the first time in like a decade. Which ending? I went for Meryl, cause Meryl lives.
Starting point is 01:57:12 Yeah. And man, that ending's way worse than the Otacon ending. Like it's just way worse. Yeah, but. Because you know that it doesn't go anywhere. No, but if you're a teenage boy, you're gonna be like, aw, I saved my girlfriend and now she's gonna ride on the back of the Yeah snowmobile and her boobs are on my back
Starting point is 01:57:33 There's two big things Coming off playing Metal Gear Solid 1 out now or three things one Yeah, no, it's a direct remake of like Metal Gear Solid 1 and 2. Sorry Metal Gear 1 and 2 like it's it's Everything in there is like something from the old ones. All the way down to there's a boss in Metal Gear 2 called Ultra Box, which is just four guys attacking you in an elevator. And the second thing is that I'm a proper adult man now and when the liquids going on and on and on and on and on about the recessive genes I'm just like blown away at how like liquid is actually like legitimately stupid complete
Starting point is 01:58:16 He's willing to nuke the world because he does not understand genetics But at the time as your first ever monologue about DNA oh absolutely it was the coolest thing ever and you saw footage of real nukes going off a couple hours earlier so you trust everything you're hearing but like every single thing he says about genes like nearly everything is like completely incorrect dominant Dominant and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like the whole thing is so, he's fucking completely full of shit. Now but I will say if not for that speech years ago though, we probably wouldn't know
Starting point is 01:58:57 these things casually now because finding out about the real version of that was directly from its usage. You don't look into that part of it if it doesn't get used in the fiction in a way. Yeah. I reached out to Tom Schalk of the YouTube channel Tom Schalk for permission to sneak in the big Chungus cut scene instead of Liquid's Gene cutscene, which happily threw a bunch of people for a loop.
Starting point is 01:59:28 What does that replace? Oh, it replaces Liquid on top of Rex talking about genes. Instead, he's talking about Big Chungus. Nice. Okay. Because Tom Schalk is a fantastic voice actor and perfectly emulated Cam Clark and David Hayter's voices. But the final thing is that like every single thing that Ocelot says in Metal Gear Solid 1 is a lie. Every single word out of his mouth is not true. It is
Starting point is 02:00:04 it is beyond funny. He wasn't told it was going to be a weapon. He didn't think that Rex could possibly ever. Rex is for peace. Like everything he says to Liquid? Everything he says to you? Like there are things in some of the flashbacks of him talking to other characters that he is like he is Wait, wait. I said Ocelot didn't I? I thought you said Otacon. No, I said Ocelot. Did I say Ocelot? excuse me I Did I I now I'm confused I thought you said Otacon, okay
Starting point is 02:00:42 No, Ocelot like revol Revolver Ocelot. Yes, okay. Yeah. Long-term antagonist. Every single thing he says in this game is a lie. Like him being about Mother Russia, his plans for Glucovich, the shit he's saying in the fucking outro to the president. Like, liar. The biggest liar ever. And it's really, really funny. he's saying in the fucking outro to the president, like,
Starting point is 02:01:09 liar, the biggest liar ever, and it's really, really funny. There's also things I didn't pick up on ever, despite many, many playthroughs. When you're in the torture scene, and Liquid and him and SniperWolf are standing there, and he goes, oh, what's up, CarrierBoy? And no one reacts. It's because he's talking about Fox Dye. Because he knows that you're infected already.
Starting point is 02:01:30 And like, I never picked it up. Did you do any of the like, the extra bits, like did you get the piss on the box and stuff? I did do the piss on the box. I also saw the parachute outside the snowfield okay yeah that's uh that game's great yeah absolutely and and um I still like mourn for that soundtrack because that energy never really came back You know the OST from solid one is just a different beast really all the other games and the other games are more sophisticated with their music, but it scratches a different itch you know like
Starting point is 02:02:21 Kojima wanted everything else to be more more movie like and cinematic and Metal gear solid one is a fucking video game and its soundtrack reflects that. It's not trying to... It sounds a lot like Metal Gear 2. I love that soundtrack and I'm kind of sad we lost it forever, you know? So yeah, that's it for me this week. If you want to go down and see more Pat stuff, you can go to twitch.tv slash PatStaresAt or follow me on blue sky at Pat stares at where you can see my really good skeets about dumb bullshit and Tomorrow's backlog and Friday is MGS 2
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Starting point is 02:14:00 All right, well hey I Mean look we all need to be fiscally responsible, right? No. Okay. Well, if you would like to, might I suggest perhaps finding a way to, you know, launder some of that dirty money you're holding onto. Oh, like TD? Like maybe using Pokemon cards. You know what?
Starting point is 02:14:38 Yeah, okay. That sounds like, yeah, okay. Because it's all appreciation and value over actual worthless things Actual former Yakuza executive explains how the Yakuza used Pokemon cards to launder money Of course, it's the it's the pachinko racket but with Pokemon cards. A hundred percent. I mean there's nothing else to it's obvious. It's just like yeah you take you take your cash and you put it into something that's not as high risk and Pokemon cards are easy to hide. You can take them overseas and store them there. You can't get tracked down. Basically, an interview was done with an anonymous Yakuza group executive who spoke to a Japanese news outlet and explained
Starting point is 02:15:33 that a lot of business is covered using Pokemon cards. And yeah, the values are all, you know, of course, because they're all worth different amounts and such. The highest value card was 5.2 million in 2021. I'm guessing it was a Charizard. And yeah, it's basically been a stable enough means that the Japanese underground can use them as a way of cleaning that money up and going back and forth. That makes perfect sense. Absolutely.
Starting point is 02:16:19 Okay, let's think. Do you want to go on an international flight with a briefcase full of cocaine or Pokemon cards? Yeah. I mean, over here, exactly. You put it into an art piece, right? You buy a Banksy. Same bit, right? Just find something.
Starting point is 02:16:42 This art is just so good. Wow. This art. Wow. Ignore the conspicuous shredder placed beneath the piece that is Wi-Fi compatible that has been hooked up to the local. It was awesome seeing those dudes get punked though. That was great.
Starting point is 02:17:03 But then you had to imagine like someone in the audience was standing there with the remote button and then as soon as they pressed sold, they pressed it and did it. And you just kinda look around the room and like, you know, it's like if they really wanted to, they could figure out which one of these fuckers did that. They could.
Starting point is 02:17:18 Yeah, but that's not art, bro. Hmm. Yeah. anyway, so That is That's just funny to me because like you would think this interview in this year would be like, oh, yeah We all put our money in crypto But but it's not it's no it's in physical But it's not. It's in physical Pokemon. The ultimate proof of crypto and NFTs and all that shit's transience in the long term
Starting point is 02:17:52 is that if crypto was like super good and the new way future, you would see like the mafia and the triads and the yakuza and the Russians just like So in it you you would just know Like Tony lips every single fucking time. Okay, what to go trade? Well to be fair the Russians are way in it and anytime they hack and take over your channel. That's the first thing They're doing you know. Oh is that Russians? Oh, oh yeah all the FGC people that got their sites taken over Russians? Oh, bummer. Oh yeah. All the FGC people that got their sites taken over, or were just like, it immediately turns into a Russian channel with a live stream that's- I'm glad that Rufamonger got his channel back really fast.
Starting point is 02:18:34 Yeah, yeah. I heard that some people were having some bigger struggles with that. However, I'm glad that it was right on time for us to be at Holiday Matsuri and then while he was on stage, he was like, he's going like, hey guys, what's up? I'm Rufal Monger. I make fighting game YouTube videos and I just see and I could yell that you sell crypto. He's like, I also sell crypto. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was a good time. And then Lord Knight was running over to his, after he was running over to Casual Station
Starting point is 02:19:11 to play some games. And I just, I read, I walked up there behind him and just like, hey yo man, I got some ETH for sale. You know anyone who's buying? And he's just like, yeah, all right, man. All right, yeah, I got you. Yeah, yeah. Okay, okay, real funny.
Starting point is 02:19:24 I don't right, man. All right, yeah, yeah, I got you. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, yeah, real funny. I don't know, man. It just seems to me that if this thing was the future, then you would need to relentlessly criminally advertise it. That it would be something that people would seek out on their own. Nah, dude, they just, we need to take over their channels and force them to be these giant dump spaces for you because it's just you
Starting point is 02:19:45 just don't know about the future yet we're helping you when we take over Obama's Twitter and that's the first thing we do is just post a wallet yeah anyway well look maybe people have some extra money in their pockets now that Amazon has finally canceled the Mighty No. 9 3DS pre-orders. Right? Maybe you got a little bit of pocket change now that they've finally given you your money back. So is that what how many platforms did Mighty No. 9 just not come out on um all but one no okay so the 3ds was the was the was that not was that not the end state of affairs um I'm shocked because I didn't know that this was still a thing they were holding someone somewhere went wait. What the fuck is this? Oh and then killed the account. I'm sure
Starting point is 02:20:49 so Oh, they don't charge Amazon doesn't charge you until the actual order goes through okay, okay? All right, so you but still though all right still was just it was just literally it was a clerical bit living in our hearts Man man in a fun a fucking sucks so bad. I hate that guy It was just literally, it was a clerical bit. Living in our hearts. Man. Man, Inafune fucking sucks so bad. Oh, I hate that guy. If you did have one, yeah, it's been nine years
Starting point is 02:21:17 until they said- Yo, if you don't support Mighty No. 9, you're fucking stupid. Is that me that said that? I feel like it was, regardless, oops. We don't support Mighty No. 9, you're fucking stupid. Is that me that said that? I feel like it was. Regardless, oops. Uh, we don't need- listen. Enough.
Starting point is 02:21:28 We've been reminded thoroughly about how the first episode of the Frencast is like, yeah, go support that, that's awesome, Mega Man's back. Inafune-san don't die, followed by also talking about one or two other, you know, yeah. I mean, look, I will say this, that if anything, the timeline from the friend cast through Castle Superbeast has been a clear path of Kickstarter in the games industry energy. Oh, yeah. That track to be like, oh, my God, we can fund the games ourselves and get what we want this will fix everything We'll just be able to do it ourselves from now on that's awesome. And then every subsequent
Starting point is 02:22:14 Into the most recent where nowadays if a Kickstarter for anything pops up which it rarely ever does It's like hey, this looks kind of cool. Look at it and make your own decisions, maybe. I don't know. I'm not going to tell anybody to spend anything on a fucking Kickstarter that can't be trusted. The hindsight that even the most open and honest and straightforward Kickstarter was actually just funding a publisher pitch is like the biggest bummer ever. Right? So like Pillars of Eternity is like a really good example. I think both of those games came out great. They're not perfect and they succeeded in all their stated goals but those were just like funding campaigns to show I think
Starting point is 02:23:01 was paradox that there was enough interest in the game to fund it? Yeah. Shenmue, obviously, being the king of these, like, live campaigns. It's weird. I mean, there's, like, the standout is like Shovel Knight, of course, you know, like, that's like the big, clear, honest winner of just, like like if they said what they were going to do they did that and then they did more and great You know nothing else to say about it. I think Undertale I think that in time, but that's but I'm like it's almost like so stuff like Undertale and yeah
Starting point is 02:23:37 And like and that all night it almost like stops being thought about as a Kickstarter project After the success reaches a certain point, you know But it's nice that there's these these these examples that we've been given. Okay. Yeah star citizen rather papers, please ukulele spark the electric dresser Oh Baldur's Gate 3 awesome somebody points out Yeah, it's you know, this is nice. This but like, it just sucks that the failures and the deceit and the non-accountability have just kind of made it a thing where you're like, yeah, I don't really trust this as much anymore, you know? And to those of you who say, like basically a lot of people hear like, oh man, I've been burned on kickstarters. Um, and now I have trouble trusting them. Um,
Starting point is 02:24:27 and they respond with a huge amount of games that were actually really high quality out of crowdfunding. So I'm seeing people say both Hades games. I'm seeing Psychonauts. Psychonauts 2 is actually maybe the worst example possible because the Psychonauts 2 Fig campaign literally ran out of money. Psychonauts 2 is actually maybe the worst example possible because the Psychonauts 2 Fig campaign literally ran out of money and the only reason that game got finished is because Microsoft bought Double Fine. I don't think that we can, like there's no shortage, there's a list we can keep going
Starting point is 02:25:00 down of good games that have come out as a result of successful crowdfunding campaigns. Absolutely, there's a huge amount of them but the burns hurt so bad. keep going down of good games that have come out as a result of successful crowdfunding campaigns. Absolutely, there's a huge amount of them, but the burns hurt so bad. The feeling of you robbed me of $80 and did nothing. Bro, I got... Fucking sucks. I don't even know, but when's the last time I got a Project Phoenix update in my fucking email?
Starting point is 02:25:21 Oh my god. That's it. It just sucks. Let me see if I can find that project. And a lot of those good releases don't ease that burn of the lying crazy person that took your money and fucked off. You know? We are we hey guess guess what? Anyone who's been working, making content on the internet has had this discussion before, but the reason why you notice negative comments and they stand out more than positives do is because. Because they feel twice as strong.
Starting point is 02:25:59 Because negativity is reinforced twice as strong in your brain because we as human beings are trained to see positives and take them at face value but negatives are things to be reminded of because in like for evolutionary purposes something threatening to you would be much more dangerous than something positive So you register bad things and threats and they imprint you the imprint stronger, right? So like called loss aversion. It's it's a part of what being a human being is and therefore losing one Kickstarter that robbed you is not going to make the others, the successes feel better even though there's many more of those, you know? It's part of
Starting point is 02:26:38 what we are. So yeah. Mighty No. 9 3DS pre-orders released. The saga is over. Finally. What do you think the timeline is for Inafune going to jail? Not in relation to Mighty No. 9. Just like, he seems like the kind of guy who's allegedly doing crimes. Maybe when, I don't know, is Yuji Naka gonna name him a co-defendant? Yeah, fuck it, let's go, let's go, let's go.
Starting point is 02:27:11 When he gets wrapped up? Let's go, let's go. If Phoenix Wright style, they introduce a new witness? Maybe. I don't know. I imagine right around the time Shenmue 4 gets confirmed. I don't know. I imagine right around the time Shenmue 4 gets confirmed. Man.
Starting point is 02:27:34 Speaking of lies, deceit, jail, and chicanery, Dokapon Sword of Fury has been announced and I'll tell you what as someone who is like as soon as Doka upon news comes out in any way shape or form of course that immediately lands on the desk I'm gonna say that I feel like almost like the you know the original LPs were responsible of for a middle wolf chaos you know how that directly ties to the re-release of metal wolf and and Yakuza being popularized in the West. I'm gonna take a little bit of credit on Dokapon. You should. Because I feel I feel as if it's it seems like between yeah there's my LP there was the original runaway guys one that was pretty big and then now with with eyepatch wolf, I think like I'm taking
Starting point is 02:28:26 credit for helping Dokapon get re released out here and get localized. They did put out a Japanese only thing and on the switch and this is kind of like the translation of it. But I feel like if I didn't start pushing Dokapon, we wouldn't be out here seeing these releases, you know? So let me ask you a question. You would know, what is the difference between Dokapon Kingdom and Dokapon Sword of Fury? They're both board games. So Dokapon has been an ongoing series that has different versions that have released
Starting point is 02:28:58 over the years that you would think like Mario Party 2 and 3 and 4 would come to mind, but it's actually drastic in the terms of like, there's usually massive art style and game style gameplay elements that are different here. The board itself is a completely different thing each time. The rules and the sub games you play. Sometimes the classes change, sometimes the missions and you know, it's like a just a different board game. But the only things that are consistent is you can fuck over everyone you love. You know, in this game that is basically alternating between RPG and Mario Party. But that's that's kind of the deal, you know, because Dokemon Journey, for example, the 3DS one that we ended up doing was also similar enough to Kingdom that you have your basis, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:29:56 Your same kind of grounded rules and classes and stuff. But it's like booting up, I don don't know FF9 versus FF10 right? You're just the rules are vaguely similar but overall it's got a whole bunch of different cases. Sword of Fury is an older one people are saying it's from 98? Exactly Sword of Fury is an older game that that it got re-released on the Switch last year in Japan and is now getting ported and translated to other things. And Dokapon Kingdom... Was an original PlayStation 2 game that then got ported to the Wii and then from the Wii got updated and released on Steam.
Starting point is 02:30:39 So those are... Which is the new one the new new brand new is? dokapon cross What are they more no I? Keep getting that's the English new one there is none is it Kingdom But but it's that's so that's a modern re-release Kingdom is a modern re-release. Kingdom is a modern re-release. But yes, Utawarerumono cross Dokapon is-
Starting point is 02:31:13 Underwater Ray Romano, thanks Paluxor, got it. That's the only one that's actually a new thing. Anyway. I should teach my child to play Dokapon. a new thing. Anyway, it's- I should teach my child to play doh kapon. Oh, so lying is not enough then? Lying is not enough. We need to take it further. I need to get him ready for this doggy dog world. God, as he stands over your corpse,
Starting point is 02:31:43 he looks down at you and goes, father. And then he puts his hands together. More. More, father. Yes. Apparently, alongside that, Transformers Reactivate has been officially cancelled. What was that? That was my next question. Okay, because I was like, okay.
Starting point is 02:32:20 Got to look it up. Got to look it up. Yeah. Seeing lots of news today about Transformers Reactivate has been cancelled and Then I was like, uh-huh The fuck is Transformers Reactivate? It is a one to four player online action game developed by Splash Damage coming to PC and consoles and then I see a trailer with some humans in it and some some
Starting point is 02:32:43 Some pretty looking things and it was announced at the game awards and it's like Oh man in 2022. I was I in a remember looking at this trailer and being like this is not real I'm like was I in a drunken like Doritos stupor? Yes, you were while that was happening Okay, so yeah, I couldn't say much, but I guess it was anticipated. Well, okay, that looks pretty shiny. Looks like a coffin now. I thought I saw that this was mobile, but no this is PC and consoles as well hmm Splash damage what studios splash damage. Oh they used to do return to Castle Wolfenstein. I think
Starting point is 02:33:38 Okay, okay, I don't think they ever put out a single game that was Too bigger than wait were they the motherfuckers by? Brink they did brink what a flop that piece of shit was oh Man halo MCC and gears 5 I have not heard a single human being talk about gears of war 5 in my entire life. Oh shit. Brink. That's the blue one, right? And the red one. Hayes is the yellow one. That's true.
Starting point is 02:34:23 Oh, man, the colors dude. Remember them by their colors. Yeah, Brick is the blue one. The Kool-Aid one. Yeah, okay. Fuck. That's crazy. That's crazy.
Starting point is 02:34:41 Like honestly, the entire game in my brain was just blue Kool-Aid All right, perfect good good good All right fucking break man didn't think I'd be talking about fucking brink today So yeah this one just as I was I going live, I saw this pop up here. Diablo 4 lead claims players don't actually want classic Diablo back as modern gamers are too consumptive. I would, okay, let's not even go into this article at all because it's an overt lie. Okay.
Starting point is 02:35:28 Like that is, that is a crazy, stupid lie because path of exile exists. So this is, this is a story that I bring up for you to elaborate on here because I, I'm not in a position to speak on it, but, uh, the, yeah, the but the premise of the discussion was that in an interview Ferguson explained that Blizzard did attempt to go back to the classic formula of Diablo 4, however, as players became used to the rapid progression of modern games, it became unfeasible and basically describes complete garbage. The Diablo formula doesn't work these days. Complete fucking outright lies, pretending they're the only people in their own space. There's a ton of games on Steam. There's both Path of Exiles. But let's ignore that. Let's ignore all the factual incorrectness here. This is the same company that said, you think
Starting point is 02:36:27 you want classic World of Warcraft, but you don't. For like eight years. And now the only people I know playing WoW are playing classic WoW, including me. Part of the quote here is also that the consumptive nature of a live service has made returning to the classic series impossible while also being a sales success. But isn't the consumptive nature of live service directly what Blizzard has made popular? Yeah, it's their fault. Isn't that part of what World of Warcraft's entire rise to power has been also also like path of exile is classic Diablo And it's also a live service game and it's been chucking along happily
Starting point is 02:37:17 For like I don't know if like fucking eight years late It's I mean every single thing in this statement is a lot well if this person is speaking on behalf of themselves and not Diablo then they could say something that is What the company that they're working for has done the opposite or they demonstrated the opposite certainly But yeah, it is a wildly lie it's a what wildly like it is a wildly big lie big big untruths And people who've wanted the same just picked up, went elsewhere, and made their own version with Blackjack and Hookers. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:37:50 There's tons of Diablo-style games. There's fucking, what's the one where you're time traveling and there's dinosaurs? Last Epoch? There's Boat path of exiles There's torch like shit fuck off There's grim dawn yeah grim dawn rules and Speaking of the old still having appeal, I didn't know this, but that Legacy of Kain Soul Reaver remaster, so recently Noclip did a documentary about Legacy of Kain in general. And apparently, the team behind that, the person who led it was Monica Aresova, who's basically someone that made their own fan
Starting point is 02:38:54 remaster. And then officially got hired for the gig to do this and showed up and had their own, To do this and showed up and had their own besides extensive knowledge of the game She also had her own collection of four 4,500 textures from soul reaver one Great thousands of textures from soul reaver to and just test it showed up with the assets and went to work No one would know what can ever be more qualified that is crazy Yeah Was already known as somebody in the in the community that like yeah, just was doing it themselves anyway, and she just kind of Yeah, she was the only person in this qualified
Starting point is 02:39:44 for the gig. That would explain something that's going on with the Soul Reaver 1 and 2 remaster because one of the things that they put in there that I only found out about recently was that they have restored cut levels to those games. But they are not integrated. That you go to a menu of lost content, and you can load into the human city. But they are as they were.
Starting point is 02:40:14 So there is no guarantee you won't walk forward and fall through the floor in one step. Cotor 2, cut content. Yeah. And this is properly is like properly unfinished shit but they're like do you want to roll around in the dev environment? Fucking go for it. If you really love the game then you might you know yeah okay so find that one person online with the hyper fixation and give them the fucking
Starting point is 02:40:42 job. Like I don't know what the the gentleman that Redid every single texture and Resident Evil 4 is up to But that dude did seven years and traveled around the world to find new textures for re4 I'm sure he's doing something cool with that technical expertise One would hope at the very least that the the people who make the decisions are paying attention. Yeah That's pretty that's pretty sick. That's pretty cool Yeah, so like if you have a guy in your team and you're making your cure you game and there's a guy over there getting all Sick in the head over Virtua Fighter
Starting point is 02:41:22 sick in the head over Virtua Fighter. Let him do the Virtua Fighter shit. Give it to that guy. Yeah. Yeah. You know, or if you don't say why? How about that? You know I said oh, yeah
Starting point is 02:41:59 Or or you know just give a heads up what's going on if you decide not to for any reason oh Motherfuckers the son of a bitch you know just let me know what's going on absolute pieces of shit Just tell me what's up. That's just god-awful. I would just want I just want to know what's going on You know it's fine. It's okay. No worries talk to me Let's talk Let's open up communication lines Yeah, there's a blast from the past All right every once in a while You know there there might be a time where you know we one of us
Starting point is 02:42:41 Opens up our our communication lines and sees check your fucking email You know but hey anyways Every now and then. Speaking of a blast from the past, Notch has basically announced Minecraft 2? Yeah. He's sick of being bored, rich, and unliked. And would like to go back to the thing that he made that made people like him. But like as Minecraft has basically just become a platform of sorts, can you even drop that
Starting point is 02:43:14 in a way that would like take the same like level of attention and impact that the first one did. Minecraft is about as lightning in a bottle as it's ever gotten. I was going to say that the second strike of that from what I feel from talking to, again, nephews and stuff is that Roblox is the thing that comes along and takes that thunder. Also, doesn't Microsoft own Minecraft? Can you even do a Minecraft 2?
Starting point is 02:43:43 I mean...... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
Starting point is 02:44:00 ... ... ...... Gamepad! No, we're not doing that. I'm just changing the placement of the E and the I. You're not doing it. What's the problem with replacing the letter spelling? I'm taking the E and I'm moving it a little bit earlier into the word. What's the problem?
Starting point is 02:44:22 Playing Minecraft on the fucking bus and shaking my head the whole time so everyone knows I'm disapproving disapprovingly playing minecraft oh there it is alright okay good sometimes you don't even have to say the title for the title to arise. It's kind of magic. Oh. I'm a fan. I still remember like fucking Notch bought a super mansion.
Starting point is 02:44:55 I think he bought the house next to Jay-Z's house. No, no, no, no, no, no. He bought the house that Jay-Z wanted. Oh yeah. And Jay-Z- And then he moved in and he's like, I don't know anyone in this neighborhood and all of Jay Z's people hate my fucking guts and I don't have any friends and everyone's like, why did you move away from every person in your life to go but have a rich mansion in a city you've never been to? to. I idiot. See, but I still love the idea of Jay Z in the windows leaning in being like, it's your boy let me in.
Starting point is 02:45:36 Yeah, so yeah. All right. Well, anyway, speaking of shitty things. Hey, so last we heard, there was the potential for an international lawsuit involving Indonesia working with Ubisoft a couple years ago with everything revolving around Skull and Bones. We have since seen a new report come out from people make games Basically describing that the level of abuse towards employees at the Indonesian studio Brando So I want to point out that Singapore was the place that excuse me my mistake. I'm sorry. You're right That was yeah, so this is specifically for
Starting point is 02:46:44 Brandoville a company that was used to support Age of Empires 4 and Ask Creed Shadows. Oh, that game's just so full of good news all the time. Was reporting on crunch culture and the industry's reliance on outsourcing for external developers to meet deadlines. Well, I mean, we've heard crunch stories before. How bad could this one be? This one involves literally people, like there's work crunch abuse and then there's actual like physical abuse.
Starting point is 02:47:20 Yeah, there are deaths in this story. People being crunched and then being forced to like film themselves and they micromanaged how much time they were allowed to sleep. Send me a video of yourself slapping yourself 100 times. Imposing daily Christian worship, making people write lines, daily check-ins over, in one case someone's outfits as part of quality control and humiliating them in front of colleagues. Literally just absolute, like fucking heinous level shit. Another employee. Where was that?
Starting point is 02:48:14 Sorry, I lost my page. Yeah, someone literally lost a pregnancy No, it was It was her she was overworked to the point of her baby being delivered premature prematurely and then Later passed and then four months later died in intensive care. Yes And then when she was like, I'm kind of bummed out about my horrible tragedy. They're like get into fucking work And Yeah, and it goes on it's it's pretty fucking disgusting it's the worst I've ever heard
Starting point is 02:49:02 Where it's like this is where it's like, this is games? Is this the same industry? This is cult nightmare shit. Yeah, and effectively, it seems this is all at the heads of Cherry Lai, who was more or less the large enabler and person in charge of a lot of what happened here. Ubisoft has published a statement which reads like, oh man, that's crazy, bummer. Didn't know about it though.
Starting point is 02:49:50 Yeah, essentially just outsourced a literal like abuse slave factory. I don't even really know what you can say there. There is a further look into it if you check out. Where's the video? 100 Slaps? The breaking news, breaking the news game on the games industry, breaking news the games industry
Starting point is 02:50:20 ignored in 2024 that I think it goes into some of that. Yeah. Bringing my dog onto the show for better vibes. Yeah, I mean, we talk about like the state of Ubi, and how things have been pretty, I guess, business-wise fiscally dire, and the idea that like, you know, they're disputing over what's going to trade hands and where the business and where the games are going to end up and shit like that. This is, this is, people need to go to jail. And
Starting point is 02:51:00 if they don't, I don't know what the fuck to say. This is going well beyond the realm of, oh, stupid fucking video game. Ha ha, look at the company, make a dumb release. Yeah, baby died. There's not much else to say there. Just literally lock people up. Not much else to say. But if you'd like to know more, you can look into what's going on there. With Brandoville was the name of the studio. Yeah, and if you are outsourcing any of your work to any international studios anywhere,
Starting point is 02:51:47 do your fucking research. Do some homework, find out who you're working with. Is it not customary to send people down there every now and then? Make sure they're not like a fucking sweatshop or slavery ring or cult? Make sure they don't come back with like scarsars and bleeding and stab wounds from from just you know scouting out the area and seeing what's going on Or is it just how affordable would it be for the mad hours, you know, hey listen that numbers gotta go up bitch Yeah, so, um, this is one of those back on that statement. I don't like yes, the number has to go up, yada yada.
Starting point is 02:52:34 But like, one of the things that's of note here is that despite the fact that this company was used by many developers, Ubisoft is the one in the tagline, probably because the studio also helped work on Assassin's Creed Shadows. And I think it's because Ubisoft has a long history of not giving a fuck what's going on in their satellite studios. When you scale up to a certain size, yes. like not even giving a shit if they do anything or ship anything or Like the the fucking skull and bone studio was used as a vacation spot for French directors What I would say is that like even though the conclusion of this story is that Brando Ville did shut down some months ago, like, okay,
Starting point is 02:53:25 and what about what the fuck happened to all the people that are in this that described individually the shit they went through? Like, a company shutting down and or someone getting fired is not the same as people getting locked the fuck up for abusing people. And yeah, like that's in the same way that the U ubi like I'm gonna move someone from one studio to another and change their job after they Physically abuse somebody type shit. It's like why are we treating the corporate job punishment?
Starting point is 02:53:59 the same as a legal ramification, you know, well, I mean it's it's the It's the fucking Catholic priest run. Which is what I've called it each time. Yes, exactly. Yeah, it's the same gimmick. Just move them far enough away, change their name just a little bit. The punishment is that you no longer have that congregation that you grew so attached to and that's punishment enough.
Starting point is 02:54:22 Anyway, yeah. Ubisoft is strange in that they have actually like let a lot of this go on for so long. Like literally every person I've ever talked to who has worked or worked with Ubisoft has mentioned there being problems with the staff and how a bunch of them are really creepy and empowered to the point where it's like really actively harmful to their business.
Starting point is 02:54:46 Yep, all the time people People that literally are working there all have the version of what happened in their department. The incident. Or that guy that's no longer here. Whatever. It's constant. Yeah. I was trying to, while we were talking here, track down whether this was all while working specifically on their games or if it was from others. But yeah, if it was outsourcing through contracts with other companies as well. They did some work on Last of Us. Well, that feels appropriate. They did some work on
Starting point is 02:55:34 a number of AAA projects as well. Yeah, okay, Age of Empires IV, Assassin's Creed Shadows, and Last of Us Part One remake are the biggest things they've worked on. Yeah. They helped on FF7 Remake. Oh yeah. So they were all over the place.
Starting point is 02:55:54 They were all over the place. They worked with quite a few people. Yeah. Yeah, that's it. Hopefully follow-up stories with sentencing will occur. And at some point some bean counter at most of the places we've just described are going, ah, damn it! Super annoying that this hit the news. Ah!
Starting point is 02:56:21 All right. Well. All right, well Back to back to doing numbers while being a functioning alcoholic Yeah, you have to of course imagine that for you know The people that were willing to talk about this shit and contribute to these stories There's always people that are not willing to right so Or whom are dead at this like this shit and contribute to these stories, there's always people that are not willing to, right? So. Or whom are dead? At this, like, who the fuck knows?
Starting point is 02:56:54 I'm hoping that we can follow and find out more as time goes on. All right. How about a letter or two? Oh, before that, there was Virtua Fighter stuff this week actually. Was anything announced at the Nvidia thing? Yes. They showed off the pre-development teaser for a virtual fighter they like essentially the
Starting point is 02:57:27 what he called the the sizzle reel for the for the company and it's where that leaked screenshot came from the one with the bar and it no longer has a bar. Ah, so the bar is gone. They also show like a big gigantic city area. People say they made quite quickly. People have probably gotten fired. And the the it is a concept reel. It is not real gameplay. Like it is all very highly choreographeded but it is definitely showing off that like yes
Starting point is 02:58:05 like dedicated blocking and animations are like a big deal for it but the other thing is that there's a camera cut there's like a reversal and Akira like in his reversal animation kicks the other guy all the way across the screen and it has a dedicated camera cut like Dead or Alive. Okay. Kind of waiting for like a content announcement, game, character, system thing, you know? The Nvidia tech demo stuff is not as... I'm hoping that they get closer you know, closer to talking about the actual game, but they might be really far away from that at this point.
Starting point is 02:58:51 It's possible. The Nvidia reiterates that they love Virtua Fighter and they're super excited to be working with Sega to make really fancy looking Virtua Fighter. Yeah, show me the game. I don't care about this shit. Show me the fucking game like That's probably months away. Yeah, that's probably gonna be at Evo. Okay, there's more or Frosty fastings, maybe Right cuz they're gonna have that at VF5 Revo is gonna be a fastings. Yeah
Starting point is 02:59:20 Yeah, that's happening in late January. Yes Okay Yeah, that's happening in late January, yes. Okay. But now let's read an email. Sorry, I had to talk about Virtua Fighter. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, by all means, you're only gonna get one shot. No, that's not true, that's not true, that's not true! There will be dozens, if not hundreds of opportunities to talk about Virtua Fighter over the ensuing
Starting point is 02:59:50 years from now. At least once a year at every EVO until the day that we die. CastleSuperBeastMail at gmail.com. That's CastleSuperBeastMail at gmail.com. That's Castle super beast mail at gmail.com. From Addie says, Dear Patrick and Woolamann, I've recently come into the knowledge that people lovingly refer to silk song as skong. What do you got on these semi official abbreviations? I mean, yo, shart, shart, kill the night song. Sharts starts top of the list. Top of the list.
Starting point is 03:00:40 Um, and yeah, Fem C is also pretty fucking good I've never heard it called skong and never not even once never heard it But someone just wrote scrim and god damn it if I don't immediately know what that is. Yeah It's a little too close to scrum though Fem chef somebody posted and that feels like, oh yeah, you know what? X-Bone. X-Bone's the all-time greatest. X-Bone. X-Bone.
Starting point is 03:01:09 Oh, and I've been playing Metal Gear. So people keep asking me why I keep calling portable ops poops instead of pops. Because P-O for portable. Po-ops. Yeah. Po-ops. So because P. Oh portable po ops. Yeah po ops poops Yeah, no, but I'm my favorite is of course the you know, bye my no man. Clitcher from devil may cry I'm gonna take that that is my credit these Forbes robs the blorb lorbs and gore's. Hey, okay. Let me we never talked about this
Starting point is 03:01:41 I don't think we did out of all the stupid names that we came up with for those orbs, which is your favorite? I mean, there's something just, there's something just onomatopoeic about porbs. Okay, so I'm torn. I think blorb is the funniest to say. Blorb is, yeah, yeah. But I think rorb is so dog shit dip,
Starting point is 03:02:11 like it doesn't work in your mouth at all. And the fact that we forced it is so stupid. Rorb does not roll off the tongue. Blorb sounds like something someone's already said when trying to say blob, you know the poor that's I like I like poor because you like because that's what you know you can you can pour it up You can we can get poor be up in here like oh we got somebody saying that Rob still lives strong I see it in every Devil May Cry stream regardless of what game it is in the series or who the streamer is that's yeah
Starting point is 03:02:45 We infected the world with this dumb shit good don Goury does combo videos We named the robs we named the orbs damn straight that's good. Well. They that was that that was really good work That's the legacy right there professional That was really good work. That's the legacy right there. Professional. All right, let's take one over here. Link says, Dear Rotisserie Woolly and Tucked In Pat, Sleepy Edition. Oh, you know it.
Starting point is 03:03:22 I had to stop tucking the sheets in. Oh, yeah. sleepy addition oh you know it I had to stop tucking the sheets in oh yeah the dog the dog fell off the bed and got trapped in the sheets because they were afraid he was gonna suffocate oh because the tuck was kept him in yeah oh that's a lethal tuck yeah you can man and page is oh, no he's he's suffocating and I'm like no he's not He and I picked him up and he was fine, but so yeah, we're not allowed to tuck in the sheets anymore I mean it is kind of just like a really comfy hammock, but you need air so You got to untuck
Starting point is 03:04:06 I've seen and enjoyed Williely's playthrough of Ace Attorney. It reminded me of when I watched my cousin play who ran into the same issue of getting ahead of the logic of the game and having to wait for it to get there. And I had already reached 10 dialogue boxes ago. Oh yeah, no, that's universal. You always get past Nick. It's, it's, it's, oh, it's the way it works. Have you played other games that have tripped you up because you were thinking further ahead than the game kept up with?
Starting point is 03:04:35 Uh, so, I mean, it's kind of the same thing, but yeah, I would say Danganronpa has also got the same issue. Any game where the logic of the characters discovering things is meant to be Like the the plot progression Yeah, no, there's always the part where there's the extra step that you view is obvious But the game treats it as a really big deal and the character has to go Who could have done it? Danganronpa and that happens a lot and And it's like, I know what happened, and I know how it happened,
Starting point is 03:05:08 but the game cares about why or so. And it cares about two objects that don't matter that much, but they're going to establish a train of thought. But what I will say is that what Danganronpa does do in its mini games, while you're arguing, like Phoenix Wright, you're just pointing out the contradictions. But in Danganronpa, that's one of many different things you can do to argue. And there's one that's like a train of thought, where you drive a car through some logical conclusions, and then go, okay, well if A is B,
Starting point is 03:05:45 then C must D, you know? And like you drive into each letter to kind of follow where the game's supposed to lead your thought process to get them in that specific way. So yeah, that's probably the biggest one I'd say. I mean, I'd say Phoenix, right? That's the one that I can say. I mean, I'd say Phoenix Wright. Like, that's the one that I can remember just being like, god damn it.
Starting point is 03:06:12 Because it's always the part where the judge, you're like, I have conclusive evidence that this person is the killer. And they're like, but do you also have conclusive evidence that your client is not the killer? Right. Also? What is this no civil
Starting point is 03:06:26 suit what are we doing here I have a video of the guy committing the crime what do you fucking what do I need why I've proven negative now this is stupid you are fiscally responsible for murder dear beast lords something thrown one out there for thought, but every passing day, especially with the Nvidia CES conference, I find myself agreeing with the humans in the Matrix more and more. We should discriminate against AI and robots. Fuck them.
Starting point is 03:06:53 What's been your most recent encounter with the frustration of AI and their increasing invasion into the human experience? My most recent example has been now every time you do a Google search, you have to scroll past the fucking horse shit. That's- Hey, do you want a wrong answer? Up top, front and center. Do you want a wrong answer right away that you can't trust? But it's top, front and center every time.
Starting point is 03:07:19 And that's for your parents. That's for, you know, and the convenience and such means that it's just like, yeah, that's the world now. That's for, you know, and the convenience and such means that it's just like, yeah, that's the world now. That's the default. It's just, it's here, it's unavoidable. It's here, it's what the default answer is. And like my mom can't tell the difference between the search results and a sponsored result
Starting point is 03:07:39 and a question answered down tab and the fucking AI generated one. Like it's all like I asked into the box And I read the text that gave me the info. I don't know She's still double clicking on links and single clicking on the desktop I mean like so man this reminds me I watched watch a video in which somebody was talking there they were a teacher in high school and they ran into a student that was
Starting point is 03:08:15 Wrote in a paper they wrote that Greek is the combination of four pre-existing languages And the teachers like that is nonsense that that's not true if anything, it's like derived from Aramaic and he goes to the kid and he's like, where did you even look this up? And he goes here and he pulls up chat GPT and goes, is Greek is a combination of four different languages? And he goes, yes it is, and just a bunch of bullshit. And the teacher describes that he found it impossible to break through the inertia of the kid going, but I looked it up. But it's right there.
Starting point is 03:08:57 But I look, I look, like. That's what looking it up means. I'm supposed to look it up, you guys tell me to look things up, so I looked it up, and you're telling me that I'm supposed to look it up. You guys tell me to look things up, so I looked it up. And you're telling me that I'm supposed to believe you over the whole internet? And guess what?
Starting point is 03:09:12 That kid is not wrong, because they were trained to be like, I looked into it, and this is what it said. And now you're like, oh, but now we have to teach you how to parse the source that you're taking it from. And, like, and I mean, at one point in time, even going and sourcing Wikipedia was questionable, because it's like, well, it's Wikipedia, anyone can edit that, we don't know for certain.
Starting point is 03:09:37 You know? Turns out it's actually really reliable. Turns out, right, now years later. But like, those first couple years, it was like, yeah, fucking Wikipedia, get out of here, that's crazy. You know? The world is, yeah, that's it now, man.
Starting point is 03:09:52 You're gonna have to scroll past those words. And you know, kinda like how, and it's the, what was it? We talked about the investor buzzwords, you know? So AI is the current investor buzzword, but it's working, and people are making tons of money by using that word, and... Are they? Yes, right, when GameShark is like,
Starting point is 03:10:13 no, we're shark AI, or whatever, like it literally... But are, like everything, everything gets to, just drop the words powered by AI into their pitch, and that's enough for people who are invested to get happy. I have a genuine like question and I don't know if either of us have the economic background which is does that make money or does it get investment? Because those are different. It raises confidence on part of shareholders. OK, so it drives investment. That's it.
Starting point is 03:10:52 Yes. Yes. OK, it does not make money. No, no, no. It raises confidence. That is such a big distinction. Yes, absolutely. Because we've got AI centers screwing up the American power grid and
Starting point is 03:11:09 shit like that because they're super expensive. But the only reason they get to keep running is because of, well, we have to keep investing in it because if it's the next big thing, you know, like crypto and NFTs and all the shit, then we need to be the top. Of the next big thing. Yeah. Look, I've, you know, I feel like I've said a couple of times, like I'm that person who says, reject all cookies. And then when you like, you make a really annoying series of dropdown menus, where it's like, well, if you want to reject all these cookies, you're going to have to click these
Starting point is 03:11:40 all off manually. I'd be like, I got time. And I will go down each one and be like, fuck off, fuck off, fuck off, fuck off, fuck off. Now let me read the website. I don't expect other people to necessarily be willing to do that. And I know that the convenience of like, at one point it was opt in, and now it's become opt out. Right? Yeah, it is. It's not opting in towards the AI answer. You have to opt out of it. You have to opt out of your YouTube channel being added to that search result. You have to opt out of your fucking Facebook or whatever the shit is by going to find the obscure little click in the back button of your settings somewhere. I do feel comfortable that everyone's like AI is going to ruin everything forever.
Starting point is 03:12:23 No, it's going to ruin a ton of shit for a while and then the bubble will burst and tons of people will lose their jobs. But once it becomes obvious that AI can't make any money, they'll move on to the next digital scam. That's where I disagree. I think it's going to do all of those things, but I think it's not going to burst and stop being used. I think it's just going to be and stop being used. I think it's just gonna be a part of life
Starting point is 03:12:45 from here on out. I don't know, because it costs an exponential amount of money every second to even keep it on. If it doesn't make any money, you're losing money every second. Investor money only goes so far. It only goes so far, that is true. But when we learn about things about how certain,
Starting point is 03:13:04 when it comes to large social media sites, it's more worth it to hold it while losing money because you're denying a competitor the opportunity to step into that space. So loss leading in a completely different sense becomes a practical business strategy. Then you're like, well, what are we considering a profit at this point, you know?
Starting point is 03:13:27 Alright, alright, overworked parents of the world, not only do you have to not give your child the iPad and do all the normal parent stuff, you now have to teach your child how to suss out fraudulent data from searches, something that most of you can't even do, because it's hard. It's really, really hard. And it's like, it sucks, but it's kind of like little tricks like typing something in
Starting point is 03:14:00 and then scrolling past everything that says sponsored, right, and then the questions when it says, okay, it's going to like what it's looking to to a Quora to a Reddit. OK, what Reddit is this? Who are the people? No, fuck that. OK, which of these results is actually a source that like that hat? You know what I mean? And like it's like all these little extra things that you just like, oh, you just learned this by spending a lifetime on the Internet, which I can't expect.
Starting point is 03:14:27 this by spending a lifetime on the internet which I you can't expect. Well listen Malik, our lifetime on the internet is different from the kids' lifetime on the internet. Of course, of course. Starting here is way different. I'm on, now that I'm an adult man with a little baby, I'm on like parenting TikTok which is all teachers talking about how the kids can't read. And an anecdote from a teacher in the US that is the most nightmarish shit I've ever heard in my life is kids are so illiterate by grade 10 they don't even text message anymore. They voice text and have Siri read the text back out. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. I remember when my mom switched over to that because her words stopped being in all caps and like it turns out she stopped using 18 exclamation marks and it was because she switched over to voice texting. Yeah, fuck, fucked, fucked, fucked.
Starting point is 03:15:29 Board games and churning butter and bicycles for my child. So you know what then? That eight year old at the D&D session is getting a chance to use their imagination and play an analog game with real people in meat space. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Not a bad call.
Starting point is 03:15:50 Not a bad call. Yep, you're completely right. See you next week. Bye everybody. Thanks for watching!

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