Castle Super Beast - CSB305: Nintendo Wouldn't Care if you had the Mandate of Heaven

Episode Date: January 29, 2025

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["Sailor Moon Theme"] Hey, Wully, how you doing? You feeling great today? That's great. I mean, look, I'm here, right? Yeah, that's the spirit. Yeah. I mean look I'm here right Made it back and and I got everything plugged in and and and we are alive to be honest like The type of so usually if I look at the travel weekend and I go alright. Well this is gonna be a you know traveling early, get back in, put everything together,

and get ready to go, then Tuesday's more than fine, in most cases. However, given I had probably my worst travel day experience yesterday, it's a little bit more difficult than that, but I still decided to not try to push things any further forward because I'd rather just... Oh, I wouldn't have been able to do tomorrow. Well, there you go. Yeah.

Yeah. But I mean... We didn't have a Thursday fucking pocket. To start at the end, after MagFest, getting back was a, it was tricky because based on the timing of when I had looked into the flights and stuff, usually you fly out, there's the 15 minute away airport and then there's the hour away airport. Right, yeah. And so most of the time I try to take the closer one, this time it ended up being the

further one and Getting there, you know did the whole thing got in three hours international If for anybody who who Ever trout if you travel travel international, it's always recommended you be there three hours in advance Yeah, it's all bullshit man man. Exactly. Right. If you're at a if you're at a if it's a local traveling thing, then it's you know, much less than that usually. But anyway, so um, yeah, so for whatever reason, flight delayed gets canceled. Yeah. Right. Been there before. Nothing new on that. So it happens.. Was it flight direct?

Yeah, it was direct. Yeah. Okay, well, delayed direct flight is like, ehhh, but delayed connecting is like, oh, fuck. Yeah. So, yeah, even if you have pre-check, by the way, if you're thinking you're getting... No, no, no, you can... Nah, man.

You're... I'm not... You still want to have those extra hours. Believe me. Yeah. You want to get out of the regular long line into the also long pre-check line. I have pre-check. I go through this shit as fast as possible given that traveling is part of what I do. I'm still telling you, you can't just assume you're going to be fine with pre-check. Canada doesn't have clear. That's an an America only like separate like company thing or whatever. But in any case, like the way we do things, it's like you save a lot of time on the the

back end, but you can't risk it going in. Well, I'm so anyway, the flight got canceled and I'm like, okay, so let's see what happens, right? That's straight up. That's happened before, right? So it's like, you're going to rebook us. All right, fine. Please be today and not tomorrow.

That would be nice. Not good. And yeah, after about maybe like 20 minutes or so, you would get the updates to the boarding pass and everything. And it's like, OK, there's a new flight. You're going to be on it. And it's going to be four hours from now. So instead of in the early afternoon,

you're going to be flying out in the evening. It's like, all right, says here, it's a different gate. You know, originally, we were at a gate in the Z section and now we got to go back over to a, you know, you have four hours to get there. Sure. Right. So it's like, all right, you know, everybody's at the gates talking like, ah, this sucks, but yeah, it is what it is. And it is pretty cold, I guess. Could be a weather thing or whatever. So everybody starts getting their stuff and whatnot.

So yeah, we roll back over and head over to the new gate. Myself, Punch, Bomb, and Reggie. And yeah, and so getting there, you know, we kind of are chilling, looking around, getting settled in, trying to find the seats and whatnot. And you know, we're just kind of like, okay, well, like everything baggage related should be like directly sent over, right? This is how these things typically have gone in the past. If something goes off or whatever. Please don't tell me you were taking American Airlines.

Please don't tell me you were taking American Airlines. I was not taking American Airlines. Oh. In many, many a situation, in most situations I'm taking Air Canada, you know? Yeah, oh my God. And so, take a look at the updated info for the new flight coming in. And it doesn't, we're just kind of like looking at it, we're like, we're at the right gate,

but it's that thing where it hasn't shown up on the gate yet, and it doesn't say next. Yeah, but it's in your app or whatever. But it's in the app, and you're like, this is, okay, so we're like, hmm, what's going on with that? Why does this not seem to be, and it's also like, okay, well, now we're in a united area, so let's just go ask over there what's going on, right? And this is like, I guess, like, you know, some time has passed, maybe two hours or so, you know?

Oh, no. Head over, go, so, hey, this is the right gate, right? We're here that says that the things have been moved over to this one. They're like, oh, you actually want to be in terminal whatever for Z where the Air Canada stuff is. I was like, right, but that got canceled and then they told us to come here to specifically gate A3. He looks he looks at he's like yeah and he looks at it again and he goes this is at no Ronald Reagan airport

no you fucking know you're at Dulles they rebooked you on an at an airport an hour away airport they rebookbook you at a different airport, and it just updated, and at no point indicates that to you, at no point tells you, it just says, yeah, no, it's like gate A3 now, from Z10 to A3. And it's like, what, like what? Right, it's like, yeah, you're gonna need to, yeah, okay. So it's one of those bits where it's like, right. It's like yeah, you're gonna need to yeah, okay, so it's one of those bits words like okay

It's not a bit well, but it's just like it might it must have felt like a bit at the time But I'm like I know Having been there are having been in these situations and having been with people as well where you're like when the airport is just Completely batshit crazy and loses its mind No one's gonna, no one gives a fuck. Too bad it's your problem, too bad, eat shit, right? And if you get upset at that or if you're bothered by that or if you try, it doesn't matter. That's just, you're not gonna get your way. Fuck you. And like, so it's immediately like, I don't even have

time to think about trying to process, let's just go, right? Yeah, no, there's no time now to go. Let's just go, right? Yeah, no, there's no time now to go. Let's just go. So we're getting- So we have to re-clear security. Getting and going, right? And then there's that decision of like, okay, well this is an hour away

and we're out of the zone for the safety check-in point. So now I'm like, hold on, we need to check this with a gate agent to make sure that that's actually the case and that this is not someone fucking up, right? We need to check this with the Air Canada agent. There's the one that's in the terminal that we were originally at,

which is not where we were currently went to, but that's, and that's gonna take a train ride to get there. Or we can go out to where the exit and taxis and stuff are gonna be, but that exits our clearance. And if we have to go exit- You're no longer in the secure coordinate. And if we have to exit the clearance,

then coming back in is gonna take a whole thing. And then, you know, and like our luggage. And so I'm just like, okay, gotta make a call here. Let's go to the curbside and then speak And so I'm just like, okay, got to make a call here. Let's go to the curbside and then speak to the agent over there and find out what the fuck's going on. Because going back to the inside one, like with the clearance, it's just like, it's too risky and I want to be able to get the fuck in a car.

Because this clearly says, hey, you're not here, right? Go over there, it's closed because they're like, yeah, we're gone here, right? Go over there, it's closed, because they're like, yeah, we're gone for the day or whatever, right? Just, we're done, we'll be back here tomorrow morning. Cool, hey, Iceland Air, can anyone next door, can you please find somebody? There's an emergency right now and we're about to get fucked over, is there anybody?

So they go into the booth, they grab someone that comes over, and dude's like, hey, yeah, what's going on? And I'm like, what the fuck? We got rebooked at an airport in a different, an hour away. And this is indicated on the email I got or on the text message I got or on the app that I got. Like the three different places where they alert you to things going on. None of these things indicated that. And he's like looking and going, okay, hold on. He's like, oh no, well, you know, oh wait, he goes, oh, and he goes, yeah, you're going to have to get over there. You should be able to get there with just enough time if you leave right now. And I'm like, okay. And our bags are already over there. And he goes, wait, uh, what, hold on, what color are your bags? And I described them and he

goes into the office right next to him and goes, actually, they're right in here. And I'm like, so there was no, you, you didn't automatically transfer them. You were just going to keep them. You did. They were just here in this office upstairs out by the curbside. How the fuck did that happen? Right? Why was there no, they're like, well, he's like, oh, we sent it over the comms, you know, and I'm like, did you say it like, like, you have okay, we sent it over the comms, I was there. And we said that, you know, you were going to need to come grab these. And it's like,

are you talking about like when everyone was filing out and when things like like or like at what point I like if there's people that are walking from different gates from different areas from different bathrooms they who the fuck knows at what point that happens. I have never heard an announcement on the airport communication system that I've understood in my life. And furthermore, at any point when you're moving around, usually with the with the app and boarding pass and shit There will be things that say your luggage has been now loaded onto the plane

It is transferred over to here. You don't need to pick it up It has all these little things if you're moving around it's telling you what's going on So the time when it's crucial to know what the fuck is happening it doesn't have any indicator of that much less the fact that the airport itself is completely changed and We just happen to get lucky enough to walk to the exact booth where it's like, oh yeah. We just happened to wheel it right here. So just like, and it's like, you know, it's at that point

where I'm like, he starts getting like attitude back in a way going like, well, we said it and you know, that's if we said it and you didn't hear it, well, you know, we just getting in getting that kind of like indignant about it. And I'm like, right. I remember this point where it's like, yeah, you're not, you're not gonna like anger your way into a victory here. They don't give a fuck because they're so used to getting yelled at when the customer is wrong, that

even when they're completely in the wrong, they're still going to get this attitude and get shitty about it and it doesn't fucking matter. So just like, it's almost like tune it out. Just please print out our shit. Right? We need to get the fuck going. Can we make it in time?

Can you assure that we can make it in time? That's what you're saying? Yes. Okay. Give us our shit. Give whatever. And then it's like, okay, it's an hour away. How much is that fucking gonna cost?

And they're like, oh yeah, we'll print out your voucher and here you can go, you can get a free ride over there. And here's a bunch of extra credit money for a meal at the airport or credit on whatever. You know, like, you clearly fucked up. But you're- It's something? But you're giving me attitude as if like,

you know, like we were in the wrong, but yeah, well, next time, fucking, you know, well, maybe you should hear better. Now here, here is the apology pieces that we're giving you for what is indicating that something wrong took place here, but it doesn't matter who's responsible, you know? Anyway, take that, wheel, run, go. You know, like, what to get to the place where we were told to go. Of course there's no taxis there. Just like I see a captain. I'm like, Hey, captain, like Kenya, is there, where's the nearest

taxi? We're just, we're going to get fucked over there. And very nice pointed us. He's like, actually, yeah, you're supposed to go down this ramp in a different way from the way that the person told us even the directions to the taxis We're incorrect fucking awesome get there. There's one Small car and it's like cool. We have all our luggage and there's three of us We have our check you like can we make it work and the taxis like I'll do my best Let's do it gets us in there. We do it. We go You know, great. Fucking cool. Hope we can do it in the 45 or whatever, you know, at this point. On the way, looking at

the app where it says the updated flight was, suddenly the updated flight, I'm like, like, like, because me and Punch Mom and stuff, we're like, okay, let's get our boarding passes and get ready to go. at that flight it's suddenly just gone from the list oh that's so awesome that's so good we're midway through and I'm like okay so there's now just no there's just no flight listed and like the airplane got tired and took a nap. And I'm like, well, I'm already, I'm just like, okay, well, one, thank fucking God that

we have the bags with us and we're in a car right now doing whatever because I couldn't imagine relying on any part of this system to actually transfer the shit it was, to the place it was supposed to go at this point. Because what happens if the new thing that they book you on gets delayed Where do your fucking bags go even that I don't even know but they go to some guys apartment where he scavenges it for iPods straight up so What even happens next so at this point? I'm looking at it the old the new flights good look like just not listed there, too

Going to the website. It's like it seems like it was like is it delayed or something and it's just not listed there too. Going to the website, it seems like it was, is it delayed or something? And it's just not showing up. So I'm just like, okay, fuck all this. Grab the old record locator, go through the old check-in process again. And now instead of showing me like, oh, sorry, your flight was canceled and we're putting you on a new one, it says you have to call an agent. Just get on the phone and we'll have to sort this out the old school way or whatever. So I'm like, okay, get on the phone and we'll have to sort this out like the old school way or whatever. So I'm like, okay, get on the phone, get through the process. The process of using a phone for calling the airline is basically, I want to say a solid five minutes up front of like,

did you know that you can use the website or app and not the phone? You fucking idiot. You should have- You told me to call the phone. I would never use the website or app and not the phone you fucking idiot You should help me to call the phone I would never use the phone unless a human being told me I had to call the phone You should get the fuck off the phone right now you stupid moron You should actually really use this app or web phone because your app is a piece of fucking shit and After and then at a certain point it's like yes Are you sure that there's nothing that you needed that couldn't be solved with the website that we should proceed with this call? And it's like, yes, proceed with the call, please.

It's like, okay, would you like us to send you a message about how to use the website in more detail? Like we could give you instructions if you don't know how to use a website. And it's like, no, I need to use the thing. It's like, okay, cool. Thank you. And I'm just like, it's the response bot or whatever. And yeah, get through to the person

and like explain the scenario. And she's like, yeah, so I can't really, like I can't really book you on anything from here if it's saying that you're unable to check in or whatever on the app. And I'm like, stop this entire process. Let's start at the beginning. Like literally, the thing- Where's my plane? Because we've walked down a complicated pathway and you might or might not be really paying

attention, just ignore everything. Let's just start from scratch here. Our flight has been canceled. We're in a car moving to another airport because we were told to go there. Can you please help us get onto a new flight and ensure that we can check it in time?" And it's like, okay, yeah, let's look here. He's like, okay, cool. Yeah, I can do something this. I can see now that your account has the old flight logged as your current flight, even though it was canceled. So I'm gonna erase that and take a look again, and then I'm like, cool, I look at it and then yeah, sure enough, now that the old canceled flight is not blocking what is my current status

as whatever travel, the new flight pops up again. And I'm like, cool, awesome, thank you, can you check us in? Where is that new flight? We are in the, we're squ I'm like, cool, awesome. Thank you. Can you check us in? Where is that new flight? We are in the, we're squaring until like almost the near 90 minute range or so. Can we please, can you just check us in? And it's like, okay, cool. You can do it on the app. And I'm like, great. Can you stay on the phone while I do that, please? Can you just hang out? I just, just please. It's like, yeah.

I have also done this and they always hit you with this like sigh and I'm like, I have had it happen. Like I've done it like in person where I'm like, can I sign in on the app or would do whatever that I need to do or the email, like at the customer service kiosk and the person's like rolling their eyes and then it fails in front of them and

I get to just stay there and go here. Like when I got a new phone plan and I wanted to transfer my phone number, that process took four hours and I had to keep rotating through and at some point I'm like I'm just going to call my phone company in front of you. That's it. And then it failed and then I put them on speaker and just handed them to the guy at the kiosk. Because the incompetence that has led to this was some human bullshit a minute ago before we got in the car. And now that this extra part is failing, this is your technology not doing what it's

supposed to do. While every automated process in your system is telling me to keep using this thing. So while you're here, stay there so that I can confirm this is working please and then you don't just go like, yep, it's great, bye, and then you're fucked. So yeah. Yeah, because if you had to go through that process again, you wouldn't even be able to check in before the flight left, right?

Exactly, and sure enough, I go through, I check in, awesome, check in Punch Bomb, check in Reggie, doesn't check in me. Says you're gonna have to wait and go see someone at a desk for that. Like, uh-huh, okay, great. Is there anything you can do about that? Doesn't check in the guy who's doing it? No, won't let me do it.

Okay, cool. And on top of this, because I brought extra setup stuff, like tech and camera-wise and whatever, I paid for an extra check-in as well. So I'm like, can I also just not have the money I spent to check in another bag, go to nothing? Can I, would that be possible? And yeah, sure. You know, ladies just like, yeah, you're just going to have to go over to the booth when you get in there. So it's like, all right, cool. That'll take extra time that we don't have instead of just going straight to the gate and rushing. We're going to have to go find a person at the wonderful, you know, So it's like, all right, cool. That'll take extra time that we don't have instead of just going straight to the gate and rushing. We're going to have to

go find a person at the wonderful, you know, and it's just, there's a, there's a really strange attitude I've dealt with with every single time I've spoken to anyone at an airport under any context, uh, not in the airplane at the airport specifically where they're like, oh yeah, just do this thing that takes time. But I'm at an airport. I don't have time to do anything because the airplane going to leave. Yep. And that's the thing is every single time it's like, are you assuring me that I have time to do this? Right? Because I'm also thinking every time these types of things happen and I find myself these types of times

where I've been sprinting through fucking Pearson, you know, or whatever, banking a corner to the airport, to the flight, I'm like, is grandma getting a drive down in one of those carriers gonna be able to make it in time? You know? Anyway, so yeah, and you know, whatever, run through, get to the desk. It's like, hey, okay, cool, check in, da-da-da-da-da. Yeah, hey, you know, even though over at the other airport we checked this in with your

laptop, but this time we can't, so pull it. So there's different policies depending on which one we're at. Well, in the time you were in that taxi cab, you could have hit in a bomb in that laptop. Naturally. Awesome. Great. Yeah. And like, as I'm kind of going like, well, I'm just, it's just weird because I literally just, we just came from this same thing being checked in as was and a dude comes from the back to be like, well, sir, you got it. And I'm like, it's fine. It's fine. I'm not starting any issues here. Just please, we just want to get in and go. Um, and yeah, you know, like roll through to that. And just as one last little swift fucking just a little just a little nut check just you know, on the way is going

through the security and like getting all of the boarding passes scanned. And the person who scans mine go looks at it and goes, Okay, cool. Yeah, you're at D51. Scans Punch Moms goes D52, scans Regis and goes D33. All right? And we're like... We're all in the same flight, man. And like, at that point, I'm just like, I'm so dead. I'm at that, like I've gotten to the point where like, like five minutes prior when I was going through the bit and I had the pre-check thing and the guy's like, oh your pre-check

Go this way go this way then go this way and then we're like, okay, cool. Thank you when I go that way And he's like, oh no, wait, it's closed. Sorry come back around right? So because that happened. I'm like, oh now I'm just having fun now. We're just getting loose with it. I'm just like, yeah Let's go. Let's let's have a good time. Well, like let's have it all go wrong at this point Don't drop the combo. Keep the rhythm up, right? If this day is gonna go fucking nuts, if this is gonna be the dumbest flying day ever, then keep it up.

Have more go wrong, please. I get to that loose point. And then, yeah, just walking by when the person reads off three different incorrect gates for where we're supposed to go. I'm just laughing and we move past it and I check the computer and I check the thing and it's like, no,

we're all at the same one, which is not what was said there at all. And I was just like- Was any of the three correct? Yes, the last one, right? Reggie got his correct, PunchBob and I got our gates wrong. And I was just like,

could you imagine if someone listened to you? Like what if someone was here doing this thing and then they listened to you as a person who's giving information about what they're supposed to do? Like in this situation too as well where we're on the clock and everything's urgent. It's like- Going to the airport is so uniquely miserable. Oh, because there's like there's like an

authoritative bent to everything because it's not just these people have control over whether or not you're going to travel. And you're usually in a foreign country. It's also that like they have legal authority to just block you cock block your shit at like any, on a whim. Yeah. But they're all like insanely incompetent. And like I just, every time I think about bad airport story, I think about like an instance that happened to me twice at two different American airports in which I asked, is today a take your shoes off day? And I received the answer, yeah, like I'm an idiot. And at a different airport, I received the answer, no, like I'm an idiot.

Why would I know your security protocol in a city that I don't live in? Every time. And different sizes, different airports in the same city, depending on who's doing what. Have different energy for what you're supposed to do. Laptops out, laptops in, shoes off, shoes on. I remember when sanitizer's when like sanitizer was like enough to be to travel with and a nail cutter, a nail clipper was it was was was not allowed and now it is allowed and it's like, okay, cool. But that exhaustion at a

very, very reasonable question is that that's exactly it right? Knowing that that's the energy. It's it's and I've also like also, um, like people I know, and people have traveled with and stuff, there's been situations where it's like getting upset, even when you're in the right, does not help in any way. They just go, we're going to kick you out. We're going to get you like it's like, because it's just right. You're, you're, you're looking at a, um, whatever the fucking percentage of like Karen-based behavior is. Right? There's a percentage of that where you're like, no, you're just fucking me over in every possible way. And a bunch of this too involves automation where a person could

fix the problem, but in this case, the person is actually making it worse. Isn't it way easier to just have the robot do it? Wait, it's not? And actually, customer service reps are now drowning under complaints because the system doesn't work? So it's just like at the point where like, you know, the, again, the apology printouts are happening. I'm just like, okay, I'm just basically explaining like me and PunchBob are just talking like,

wow, it's really stupid how this thing tells you all the important stuff about where your bag's going, but the most crucial thing, like get up and change airports isn't on the app. Isn't that crazy? It's like, yeah, I don't know why, what's the point of it then? Like you're pushing this, isn't it?

And we're just having our conversation between ourselves in front of the, because it's like, what else are you gonna do at that point? You know? in front of them because it's like what else you're gonna do at that point, you know Anyway, we got in at whatever fuck in the morning, you know and and are here but it's just oh So you got in this morning? Yes. Oh No wonder you sound like shit. Oh that sucks

It like there was a point where I'm like on the way, you know Like this was it was a it's a two-hour flight from from Montreal I'm like on the way, you know, like this was a, it was a, it's a two hour flight from, from Montreal to Washington. And on the way, by the time we got back home, I'm like, we could have been at Narita airport right now. Like this was a flight to Japan in, in how long this process took. I bet it feels good to be back after that fucking nonsense. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, I never told this story before, but when I was traveling with a friend of mine internationally, we had to do a connecting flight

to Toronto, and we almost missed our flight because they did that thing or they offloaded us to that tiny little baby Toronto airport. Porter. Right, the tiny little one. Billy Bishop. Us specifically.

Billy fucking Bishop, baby. Because he had to be randomly checked because he had an Arabic last name but he had to be checked on the connecting, which was insane. And then we were almost late. We barely got on the connecting flight and the person at the gate gave us shit for showing up late after they pointed us to a different landing location. to a different landing location. Like, when, unless you beat me into it and there's no other way, I will never fly Porter fucking shit ever again.

It's insane. There's only one reason to fly Porter and the reason is I only want to go from Montreal to Toronto or Toronto to Montreal. Downtown Toronto specifically. That's the only, like, if you want to have any other location, combination ever, you don't do it. So I guess to translate for Americans, like, this is what they call, you guys call like Spirit Airlines equivalent, but what if they had their own airport, right?

And what if it was- That doesn't connect to the real airport. And what if it was built on an aircraft carrier, essentially? I feel like- Absolute dog shit. I feel like that's what it is. I feel like it's an airport just built on an aircraft carrier floating out, you know, just off the dock.

And yeah, and also because the wind is insane flying off the water, every one of their planes, which are propeller planes, which are very tiny, have the most insane batshit turbulence you've ever felt. I tell you what though, I love good turbulence, man. I think it's fun as shit. Yeah, relaxing.

It's like, yeah, so I think turbulence is fucking cool because I'm not worried about it. My wife does not think turbulence is fucking cool. Yeah.'m not worried about it. My wife does not think turbulence is fucking cool. And that's really funny to me. But it's also other people on the flight do not think that turbulence is cool. And I'm like, the plane go bouncy. Okay. Well, for most people, it's pretty fucking churning. Understandably, I did learn something that made me feel a lot better about it, which is that essentially the way planes,

especially modern planes are built, turbulence is never what causes an issue. It's always like a bird strike or a landing gear issue or whatever. So a bunch of shaking around and whatever, nothing has ever like gone horrendously wrong as a result of just turbulence. So when we went and got this freak dog from America, we took America to Canada ferry and

that motherfucker hit some waves. That thing was going at like 40 degree angles on either side going, whoa, whoa. And I was walking around holding the baby and we were going, woo, woo. While other people on the boat were going, oh my God, that was, we're gonna tip. And I'm just like, haha, boat go back and forth. That thing, that being said, having been in planes where you get the drop and you're shooting upwards

and almost hitting your head on the fucking thing. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, you're like, and almost hitting your head on the fucking thing. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, like no, that's partially, that's potentially lethal type shit. Yeah, but it's fun if you're in your seatbelt with the, yeah, you put your seatbelt on. Okay, well no, shut up. You're insane. But like-

Yeah, it's like a roller coaster for free. Like, people have broken fucking limbs and like, I think there have been fatalities from heads hitting the top of the- Oh, absolutely, but they didn't happen to me All right. Well in any case all that to say that when there's a good turbulence and The good turbulence is the oh we're pulling in for landing and you can see the air You can see it turning and getting ready to land. So like look out the window and you're like, oh, yeah

I'm feeling that because we're just lining up and everything ready to land. So like look out the window and you're like, oh yeah, I'm feeling that because we're just lining up and everything's going good, so great. But yeah, fucking Porter's insane, fuck that airport shit, I'm beyond exhausted and tired. And- Well, I'm glad you made it back home, bud. No, and I think in conclusion, we all kind of were like, as we're out of there, we're like,

the amount of insane stupid shit that went wrong today is grounds, if we felt like carrying the fuck out, we could, right? We absolutely could. I don't have the energy or wherewithal. I just wanna get back to my bed. But there was more than enough there, each step of the way that could've gotten us fucking shit

or free vouchers or whatever, you know anyways We're very sorry for your unoptimal flying experience. We hope you fly with us again Just tell me $10 voucher that will not cover one sandwich. The thing is, is that in a lot of cases when it's like, oh, god damn it, the flight's been canceled, to me, I'm like, ah, that sucks. It happens. That's not even remotely the first thing that I'm bothered by.

I've not really had trouble with canceled flights. I usually just hop on another one a couple hours later, get a food. That's it. That's it. That's it But just get out get like actually you're supposed to get the fuck out of here an hour ago Yeah, anyway So that was that was me getting back that sounds like that's That sucks it it was not great God half blighted you this week. That's a proper blight.

A little bit, a little bit, but that's all right. MagFest was pretty fun and yeah, some of the- The reason you were gone on an airplane. There you go. And, you know, that travel day is still less of a disaster than Lotus Juice on stage. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Lotus Juice was there. Oh. Lotus Juice was live and I didn't know.

And it was like, holy shit, let's go see Lotus Juice. He's, it was. Okay, live. It was, it was, it was cool. He needs to be mixed, is what he needs to have. So it was super cool that Lotus Juice was there and I didn't know and I was really happy to find that out.

And there was even a secret show the first night and I was like, oh, fuck, there was a chance to go catch that just in one of the rooms over on the side. I was like, fuck it, let's get to the main one late night. And yeah, we pulled up and as I was finding out, it's like, oh, shit, Lotus Juice is here. And it was like, yeah. And it's like, is that him walking right over there? And it's like, yeah.

Oh, hey, it's Lotus Juice. There he goes. Oh, shit. And, you know, concert started 40 minutes late because got pushed forward per previous act kind of delayed Oh, it was the previous acts previous act delayed things by you know 40 minutes or so So yeah, it was supposed to start around 1250 started around 130 And I think everyone you know, there's a bit of a, I guess there's a bit of a Neil Young thing is is is what we'd

call it where, all right, let's hear what Lotus has got with some of the original tracks. Cool. First two first three. first three, first six. Everyone's kinda like, hey, if we could just get a crumb, a crumb of that good shit. Really? A little bit. Are you serious?

A little bit. Six. I don't wanna be that guy though, because what I'm like, but we're also at, we're at MagFest, so it's very clear why and what's going on and what this audience is about little bit I I you know you have that one good teacher at some point in your in your career through education there's like a one teacher that knew what the fuck they were doing and they gave you like a couple really good pieces of advice my

English teacher who was an old- bitch, I loved her so much. She was great. She was so fucking mean. When you write something, the number one concern should be audience. Who are you writing this for? And I think about that all the time, all the time when I look at something and go, who the fuck is this for? And when you tell me that Lotus Juice went to fucking massive weebass nerd con, MagFest, and did six songs of his own material, I'm just like, who the fuck is that for?

I don't wanna be the Play Free Bird person, right? Cause I'm always super down to hear the original stuff that is like, you know, what you're currently up to. Like, that's the thing. I think the best way to do it is to sprinkle and like pace things a little bit and jump around and then have these kind of like highlight moments as we're building things up.

But it was long enough that it felt like the audience, the room was starting to stir, and the group I was with definitely did, because some of the folks that were there were like, I'm outta here, I'm literally leaving, I'm tired. This was already 40 minutes late, and then on top of that, it's like, uh, you know, so there was that, right? I'm like, I can't blame ya, I get it.

Sing Heartbeat, you motherfucker! Wait, it's not blame you. I get it. Um, sing heartbeat. You motherfucker. It's not even on that track. But you know, and then, um, and then there's some stuff too, where there's a couple of folks were like, yeah, like, um, Shoji Meguro composition is like in particular, like a, like a wonder Scott, like those are the, I've seen some of those live concerts where it's been like, you're covering the span of all the games and they're pretty fantastic. Here you go.

Lotus Juice comes out to do like three songs total of those fucking things. But that being said, that being said, I don't want to fucking spin the narrative here, but I just remember hearing about just the Neil Young concerts where it was like, can you play one for us, Neil, please? And he'll be like, if you all stay till the end of the set, I'll play my classics. And then everybody does. And then he just starts his new shit again. I remember back in the 2000s when Madonna had a resurgence or that she had that music video which was an aerobics gear, whatever fuck with her new album. Mm-hmm and

She did an interview in which someone from like Vanity Fair some shit asked her is like, how do you feel about? Playing your old songs at concerts and when people go to your concerts and they ask you to sing like a virgin or something Like that and Madonna responded with like I don't even know the words to like a virgin or something like that. And Madonna responded with like, I don't even know the words to like a virgin anymore. I can't believe people even ask about that anymore. But fucking shut up, sing the song. Now this is the thing, right? I say all this fully knowing that like a ton of artists

are also just like, I just don't, like either, maybe it's like I don't have all that in me, maybe it's just like I've been this, I don't wanna just be that one thing my whole life. I certainly wouldn't appreciate it if folks were just like, hey yo, go do the best friends thing now, just do that though, right? I would be like, come the fuck on, man.

No, you know what it would be like, Wooly? What? It'd be like, hey Wooly, you ever gonna do another video like Fighterpedia? And you go, I don't even know fighting games anymore, man. What are those? Fighting games, man, whatever.

That's cool. Literally, what are those? Yeah, you know? Wooly, you, was it last week or two weeks ago? You literally pulled out the Wens Marvel fucking card, but yeah, yeah, yeah, it's right next to you right now. Yeah, sometimes you gotta sprinkle in a couple of the classics.

So to peel back the curtain on this one, this is- No. No, okay. No, don't, I know what you're going to say because that looks too good. Way too good. And it doesn't have any creases. This is not the original from back in the day. Of course it is. This was no, this was made because someone asked me to use it in a video. Yeah, sure. But like that will be upcoming. So I did a little bit. Yes. It is the same bit

And I was requested to do the same bit right as people are talking about pie stealing over there so a hundred percent a hundred percent right I know that feeling and I also know when an artist feels pigeonholed and Creatively fucking locked into some shit that they don't want to so all but but I think like, I think the balance, especially when it's like, this is the event you're at is to do some and some and drop. And then you have these like, oh, fuck, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then like, okay, okay, let's feel this shit out a little bit. Oh, you kind of play it.

I think there's a way you can do that and keep the audience like getting more and more excited as we build up to what everyone's really kind of excited and waiting for. You want to get that mass destruction going, you know? Just between you and me, pretend no one else, can I say something really brave? Can I be brave here for a second? You can be brave and controversial. Okay. I don't think it'll be controversial. I think that a musician on stage thinking with any sense of pride or ego is the lowest form of life. I think once they get up onto the stage,

they're there to dance and sing and leave their body so that their muscles and voice can do the show. Okay, yeah. Listen, part of the reason why we love Ava so much is because Anno was completely insane in making that 100% selfishly and all about himself and said, fuck the audience, right? There are times and places where fuck the audience is the right energy.

Yeah. Yeah. You know what? You know what? I'm going to flip this around on you. If Anho put out an Evangelion thing that was like beloved and non-controversial and all that shit, I'd be like, what are you doing? No, you're supposed to get out there and take a shit on the stage and say, fuck the audience. That's what I'm here for. Oh, that's what you're supposed to, right? Right. Right. Okay. Okay. Now that you've established what you're about the next time time you've gotta do that thing. You've gotta go, yo, fuck you guys. And if you didn't, now you're, I see, I see.

This is Riley from the Boondocks looking at Ice Cube and going, that guy from all those kids movies? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I see. Okay, you're supposed to do what my expectations are. Even if my expectations are for you to say, fuck me. Yeah! Got it. If I went to a Gigi Allen concert,

and he was alive, I'd be so fucking mad. Right, and you're not flinging fecal matter my way. Yeah, man, oh, what, you're playing your folk music and shit, and you turned over a new leaf, leaf now that you've come back to life? Get out of here. I mean, Steve Martin doing ukulele interviews where he refuses to talk about anything he's worked on except for the ukulele stuff is, it's hostile, wild, hilarious energy that

you could have towards what people know you for. And I think this is literally the, I would say the artist's struggle, but it's like all mediums, all things. Like when you're known for this and then you're like, okay, I also want to do this. And then people are like, I'm showing up for this though. You have to find the right way to, to present it and to hit those things. And I've seen shows, I've been to concerts where artists have pulled off both and it's fucking incredible.

It's awesome when done right. So like we have an example that is like much closer to home and that like we are variety content creators, right? Which we poke a little bit here. But we know lots of people, like I know tons of people who were not variety content creators. They were single serving content creators. They did Warframe. They did Destiny. They did Fighting Games. They did Dark Souls. They did, you know, and this and that and every time that they would like go like, oh, I'm gonna branch out. People go, this isn't fucking dark. Go back to Dark Souls. What the fuck? And they all had to have this horrible period in which they're like, dude, shut up. I want to play something at God.

We've had that conversation, I feel, with way too many people that we know that are just like, yep, you're pigeonholed, you're stuck. You cannot escape what people have showed up for and they don't want to see anything else. And the truth of the matter is you just power through it and then eventually people that do want to see other things will show up and are going to be fine with it. But yeah, that initial point. I remember when fucking Mr. Charlie fucking Penguin Zero Moist Critical was a black ops content creator and Max was a Call of Duty content. You remember that? I mean, Jesus Christ.

Fuck it, yeah, it's insane. And a lot of the time too, I would say just sidebar, energy has a lot to do with it as well because by the numbers, despite me being perceived as an FGC content creator, count up how many videos go out that are actually FGC. Oh yeah, by volume, you're like, I don't know, 20% FGC?

Less. It is clearly a variety category when it comes down to it, you know? So to the point where like chatting with other creators as well about like, oh it, you know? So to the point where chatting with other creators as well about like, oh yeah, you just jump on, do a week of this character, grind up a little bit and stuff and kind of like, oh, that's not how things go over here. Well, even by FGC standards, you are like insane variety.

Cause like what, variety to an FGC streamer a lot of times is like, well, we're gonna try a new character for the month of February. Exactly that's that's what I mean That's what I'm talking about we got to go into that dumpster and find that old Kusoke garbage for this week for one Saturday, and then next to slop you know Anyway, so all this to say like there's been yeah, there's been shows like I mean shit when I went to go watch Shingo Shingo to and Oma doing

the Nujabes stuff the other day, it was an amazing mix of originals, news, and then into some of the classics and the audience got real hyped with the progression of things. But I think there's also a second reason here that might become a little more apparent. So we were having fun with it and Lel, you know, Lelouch was doing doing stuff and, you know, he was killing it. He was jumping up there. He's by himself just, you know, performing. Then there was that moment of like, yo, y'all mind if I take my shirt off? And he takes his shirt off and he's got a persona shirt underneath it. And it's got a little Jack on it. And it's like, ah, there it is.

OK, here we go. You know, and went into like, you know, a went into like a couple of tracks, like it's going down now, the new battle theme, you know, disturbing the peace. It was, yeah, it was good. But there's definitely some stuff where I felt like, okay, I think with the Persona tracks, it might just be because of how old it is,

but it might be something where it's like, oh, maybe you haven't been performing these over the last two decades, you know So it might not be fresh in the mind But there were a couple of like, you know little moments of like that line got dropped and it was like, okay Come back on the next line, you know So I think it was also a matter of like just performing while not super like fresh on the material That was also some trepidation as to like you know putting them up front or like at the very least going too heavy into the persona stuff

which folks were waiting on you know. And I think that all kind of came to a head because I feel like the tracks we heard up to that point were yeah just a couple of line skips and then you pick it back up on the next line. And when it came to Mass Destruction, the first verse, unfortunately, hit a point where it got really rough. The first couple lines were just gone. And I think as like a recovery move, there was a moment of like, the mic is not working.

Hello, hello? And then the singer who did an incredible job covering and doing the vocals, she kind of came up and did like a mic switch. And there was a moment where it was like, oh shit, okay, no, this mic is working. And I think everyone's like, okay, all right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. We'll politely kind of just accept like, yeah, that's kind of what happened. But it really wasn't the mic was fine. It was just, it was a line flub that kind of turned into that.

And I think we all kind of knew, you know, I think that's what it felt like in the room. That sounds like a great show from Lotus Juice. Verse two, killed it. Came back in full speed, full power, great times. Ba da ba ba, ba da ba ba. Loved it. But yeah, just being real about how that kind of went. That's great. It was a save. And then I guess I was kind of hoping for... The one last thing I was hoping for was like, oh, are we going to do the Fess intro? Can we get the Fess intro? We didn't get the Fess

intro. And I was like, God damn it. I want it to... And I'm like, we didn't get that either. So I want it to, and I'm the ace. We didn't get that either. So at the end of the day, got a cool cover of it's going down now and got half of Mass Destruction, pretty cool. Didn't get the dorm room, Iwato Di Dorm theme. Well, he's not on that. In the remix he is, the new version.

Yeah, I know, but like I don't want that remix. I want that absolute dog shit free sample CD shit. But nah, cause the new tracks are like Atlas mandated. Like I don't know who it was, but I remember we were talking and somebody agreed with me like, nah, like a lot of the soul off that you would totai dorm track is gone in the new version because it's better. Nah, that's a, that that's a that is a piece of shit that got down sampled and fucking just pitch corrected into garbage. I love that original version. Oh, it's so good. What was a real fucking head spin was when he was like, yo,

who's a fan of Jojo's Bizarre Adventure? And we're're like I'm not a fan of your particular track in that that Jojo because you know same fucking lyric over and over did you know I don't think any of us knew Absolutely, because it was like yo This is from part song when he's in the plane in in part two Yeah, I had no idea and we looked it up and we're like sure enough lotus juice I had no idea and we looked it up and we're like sure enough Lotus Juice Yeah absolutely I recognized it on the second I saw it Well I will say this the entire side of the room we were on were all baffled at the idea that that Lotus Juice was in JoJo none of us knew that

A bunch of f**king fake fans over there Jesus Christ No one knew that Jesus Christ And as we see here we continue to be confused Fucking fake fans over there. Jesus. No one knew that We see here we continue to be confused Lotus juice was in Jojo part two Anyway, so That was there. I unfortunately did not get to catch red Vox, but I did hear that they were pretty good And I mean, you know Vinny's killing it. I know that they do an awesome job regularly and I Enjoy red fox, but yeah, no that was that was the

the the beginning or so of things I feel like You know, it's cool if we kind of can go back and see that if it's like, hey, he's talked about how apparently he was from Jersey for a while. He grew up in or spent some time in Jersey like 30 years ago or so. So if it's one of those things where it's just like he hasn't he's only been performing new shit and then it's like hey you got asked to do something come back and then like I'm like quickly trying to remember that I'm like I totally understand how it went the way it did you know and that's that's all fine. But

yeah that was that was Lotus juice. How much did that that concert cost? I mean it was part of magfest so. Well that sounds like an appropriate deal then. Can't complain too hard for a included concert. It's like a continental breakfast. How much are you going to complain about your complimentary hotel breakfast? I mean for what it's worth like magfest performances are usually fucking 11 on 10s, you know? Oh, well then it's extra dog shit, because he should have done better. Shame. Well anyways, moving on. Other stuff that was going on there. We had, yeah, I jumped on a little SonicFox vs. Everybody event.

That was a lot of fun. Who won? SonicFox. Sonic Fox versus everybody event that was a lot of fun who won Sonic Yeah, so you know they came down to the to the game room and They're like hey yo fighting game event you want to use can you get on that can you join and you know that I'm like Yeah, sure. I can I'll do whatever you know that. I'm like, yeah, sure. I can, I'll do whatever. You know, I can do it. I can talk about a fighting game, even one that I don't really know that well, but let's go.

And yeah, and basically it was a very straightforward like upfront. SonicFox was just walking through like, you know, some, you know, tech getting competitive and if you want to, you know, play play this game and get into it and get better at it, here's some cool stuff to know, little tips and tricks for the audience and stuff. I had some questions myself that I was curious about, so I'm like, just about some of the systems and things that as a Capcom boy over here, I'm coming in and there are things about MK1 that I'm like, that is a unique

thing that other games aren't doing that I do think is interesting, right? What's that exactly? So one example of that I will say is like when you are out of life and you're on your magic pixel about to die, you're your last sliver and you take one more hit or get chipped out. If you still have meter, it'll use your meter to keep you alive instead. So, like each hint of chip will cost meter until you're down to no resources and then you die. You know, and I was like, okay, that's interesting. It is wild that it took until right now

in this conversation for me to even hear about the mechanic once. Sure. Yeah. Different games have over the years, like Street Fighter IV, you used to just get chipped out on any specials or supers. In Street Fighter V, it was like only with a super. And now in VI, it's like only when burnout.

So there's these conditions for how you get chipped out on things. And now in 6, it's only when burnout. So there's these conditions for how you get chipped out on things. One of the ones where it's like, it's going to cost you your resources. It's like, yeah, that's an interesting thing there. But anyway, so we kind of went through and then there was a wheel of misfortune. And then every time someone came up to play, you could get a real match or you could spin the wheel and then it would be like, okay, Sonic Fox can't play with a certain button or could only use a certain button or different types of restrictions.

At one point, the restrictions were not enough. It was just like, yeah, there's always a character that's like, okay, who's going to be really good at just using three or just using the square button or whatever the case is. All of those challenges, yeah, no problem. So then eventually it was just like, okay, how about this? I'm gonna put the mask on backwards and we're gonna do a blind match.

And okay, Wooly, just tap left and right on my shoulder if I'm on the left or right side of the screen. And sure enough, as Gene filmed and the footage is up there, absolutely wins a match completely blind. You know, incredible. Very... There's only so much you can live at a person. Yeah, I would say so. Especially if you're talking about like, it's like, okay, well, I'm going to play a character that is playing blind Kenchi as well. Blind character on blind match, right?

We're just like, look, if you don't know what's coming at you here, not a deal, I'm just gonna do a combo and then, oh, did you side switch? Okay, I'm gonna do it going this way now. It was great. So that was a lot of fun and you know, like a big, big crowd pop off everyone

and definitely enjoyed that stuff. So yeah, let's see how that goes. I think in two more EVOs with two I think with two more wins, Sonic Fox is going to break the record for most evil victories. Because are that are they still so that they just that why Mortal Kombat is coming over. Maybe it's coming back so that that record can be crushed because last time it was Free man last time that's they beat Daigo's record with I think it was six to now be at like seven and then I think Justin Wong is at nine. So yeah Jay Wong's was a shit ton of Marvel's right? Yeah, and and and I think not just Marvel though over these like there's a variety in there but all that to say well you know I think that's possible like we could just see another two and then

that record is gonna shift. But yeah that was a lot of fun and yes of course there was a whole lot of what I'll call lore progression as far as versus wolves goes. Oh, I see. Those events, there was the Dokapon incident and then there is the main episode will be popping up later this month. And you know, I'll leave it to those episodes when they arrive for anybody to see how they went and what's going on.

Yeah, they streamed them, but we're going to have some cooler, better versions and edits going out there. But lore updates and progression has occurred, so stay tuned for some real good shit over there. At what point is this just going to degener into like like pit fighting? Implying it already hasn't all right. All right fair enough fair enough fair enough, so Yeah, I think what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna finish this podcast and then I'm going to upload a bunch of shit, and then I'm going to

Fucking chill out this week. You should chill out. You should take some time off, bro. Is what I'm gonna do. And then check the schedule. I'll post something up to let you know when we're gonna be coming back around. But yeah, give me a minute. And for those that, yeah, that missed it and are wondering, so the episode of Versus Wolves will be going up at the end of the, you know, this Friday, right?

So the end of the month. And the Dokapon incident is going to go up separate from that as well. So don't worry if you missed it. We got you covered. You're going to be able to check those out over on the VersusWolves channel. Cool. Yeah, let me take a quick bathroom break. Alright, enjoy your time in the bathroom. We'll be right back.

At the, at MacFest I was announced that there's going to be some merch at the panels and one thing that's happening is the old Get into fighting games t-shirt that was not allowed to have cool hearts on it is now going to that's now going to exist with the heart on it. So, okay. Yay. Because for whatever reasons, people that we that used to handle that were Yeah

Yes So finally that is being rectified because the thing that people have asked for from the fucking beginning of Like hey, look at this cool intro. It'd be cool to put that that thing on a shirt, wouldn't it? Hey Finally possible. So yay At that. Oh, that's great Anyway What is going on? So you ever have a moment in your life in which you can pinpoint the exact second that you're gonna have a hard week?

Like you see an event occur and you're like, oh, that's gonna be a problem. So Paige took our wonderful baby boy out to the community play place to run around and hang out with the other toddlers and get all socialized and shit and talk to moms and all that shit. And right before Paige left she looks over and mom comes in with her little child and that child walks up to my perfect little boy and goes, oh, oh, not intentional, but no. so I want to be really really really clear, right? That's no kids fault that they're sick, right?

That's mom's fault. You don't bring sick kids To places with other kids. What about the parties where people get their kids together specifically to get each other sick? Oh everyone in that in that in that situation is a bad person. The deliberate spreading. Everyone in that situation is a psycho. Pox immunity. Whatever. That's nonsense, man. Is it? It's not real.

Oh, no, it's real. That happens. I'm just saying it's fucking stupid. It's it has always struck struck me as like, is there a less gross way to do it like yeah Can you do it? Yeah? Okay? Don't do it, okay? Just just don't do that. That's it So the baby's sick He's a little trooper. He's he's he's doing his best, but we're going through it over here I'm sick as you can see I have my my sniffle rag here

It's nothing serious. It's not cove it it appears to be the common cold I feel Mostly fine other than some sniffles. Okay Paige is not sick cuz page never gets sick So that's good, but uh. So that kid just fucking dropped a bomb. Yeah, Paige says that she feels like she could see the particles transfer from one child

to the next. Mmhmm, mmhmm. But what are you gonna do? But you're gonna just, like, you see it land on your kid, but you're still, you gotta get in there. Yeah. So you get in there on your kid, but you're still you got to get in there. Yeah, so you get in there Yeah, oh, yeah, absolutely So that's been going on poor guy. He's so sick. He's he's miserable

So we're gonna be moving to shifts at night because somebody pretty much has to like be with him like the whole time Cuz he's just so miserable So that's fun terrible. So that's fun. It's fun part about being parents. You get to watch the mistakes of children reflect into your own body quite quickly. But you know how like sitting in bed, I don't care, do you have that thing where sitting in bed with like chicken soup and like a big blanket is kind of like preemptively comforting because you're like, oh, I'm sick But you know like I'm getting taken care of and that feels nice. I Don't have to I don't really do that. Okay. Well, so that's all I've all I have only done that once and that was when

That was when I had the flu the flu is the sickest I've ever been in my entire life. Okay, okay. I did that right after I kicked you out of my house. Okay. Do you remember the E3 where they showed off like 12 hours of like fucking Zelda. I mean No, like so we all did that live at e3 Like it was in my house in my apartment and then I'm like, hey guys I don't feel so good and then I went into my bedroom and then sweated it out for three hours Okay, and then came back in and you were all still in my living room watching Zelda

Okay, and I was like you guys need to get the fuck out of here. What the fuck is wrong with you? I'm so sick. Okay. And you were all like, oh yeah, okay, I'm sorry. And then you... And then I got a big blanket and some fucking soup and all that shit.

That is the only time I have ever done that. Okay. Well, more so I'm referring to the, like, you know, you get to create the like There's a positive memory that you get as a kid of like oh I'm sick and my parents are gonna bring me some chicken soup, and I can you know no man. They just gave me that bucket My parent my mom would just get this orange bucket like here you go You need it, and here's a stick too just in case you need to

Yeah, all right, okay well This is how it was I can't even look at an orange bucket without trying not to fucking throw up now It's the the association is so strong So for me for me, it's a blue basin that we kept under the sink That's like this is for you get sick. Yeah, exactly and I'm like even when I'm fine this basin associates Immediately yeah, no What else I discovered a twitch channel called midnightnight Sumo. Have you ever seen Midnight Sumo? Please tell me that it involves both things that it's titled after.

Well, it runs late at night and this dude is just commentating just a shit zillion nonstop sumo matches. Oh, awesome. That's so cool. I heard that there's a new Yokozuna. Yes, there is. Paige watched him win the round robin and get crowned the other day. Fuck. That's dope. Hell yeah. Also, dude, sumo matches being run in a round robin tournament is so nuts. It takes forever. And you know fucking breaks either.

Like fighters never usually have more than one thing in a night and to just be like, nah, get back out there. No, man. You're fighting 25 matches in the next nine hours. So yeah, for the first time in three years, New Yokozuna. That's pretty cool. It is wild to see the variation in big boys on the Sumo Channel. Mm-hmm. Because then you have like, you have some big boys on that on on that Sumo shit. Mm-hmm. Some some some proper round boys. And then on occasion you see some that are like that's just a regular guy

In the sumo getup Like I saw two guys like that is just a regular man Just got a little thick, you know, just a little no, no, no, I don't even I literally mean like a tall like muscular but like no significant body fat regular Japanese athlete. Wow, okay. I mean it is technique too, right? Well those guys are apparently former wrestlers. So they don't push the guys out, they juke

and they like slap the big boys down and get around them, that kind of thing. Okay. Man, sumo, as a spectator sport, sumo's so weird because it's not very dramatic, but it's incredibly easy to binge for extremely long periods of time. Because sumo matches last like 5 to 40 seconds. They're like Virtua Fighter like length matches. So I never understood, because yeah, they can go insanely quick. But I never understood like, like, weight classes aren't really a thing, right? Because-

They don't appear to be a thing. It's just, did you win or not? Because, I don't know if you remember, the huge black guy that got popular- Yeah, I remember him. Right, yeah, Manny Yarbrough. It was this huge dude that I remember. He was a big boy, yeah. But he had all these matches against people

that were less than 700 pounds. Yeah. You know? Yeah, no, weight classes are for pussies, man. Whatever. And you're just like, how is this supposed to work? What's the thought here? The thought is who gets to be Yokozuna is the strongest.

I mean according- That's it. Yeah. According to- And I can according that's it. Yeah According and I can respect that I understand the idea of like also doing like, you know, like I'm not even gonna try but like knee Atari or what the thing the moves were you grab and you move to the side? It's like oh you're heavy, but now I've used your weight against you and according to those gifts from the year 2003

And according to those gifts from the year 2003 The Yokozuna does get access to wings eye lasers and insane teleporting hundred hand slap pressure moves I Think that all champs should be a squash champ and if your champ isn't a squash champ you haven't found the real champ yet Okay, so it's not enough to just win, but if you don't absolutely decimate. Yeah, no, every match against the champ should be a joke until you meet the new champ. Got it. Yeah, no sell. Yeah. Matanza and Lucha Underground. Or just fucking Brock Lesnar. Brock for a while. I would love if there were some sort of modern update or incarnation of hyper sumo GIFs. Because that-

Yeah, it was good stuff. I believe they started as GIFs and then they became like Nico Nico videos and then there was a channel that added sound effects and shit and it got very very elaborate because there was a few of them where they were doing like one-winged angel like like light from heaven attacks that were like exploding outside of the arena but I think I'm gonna see I think if you just you can probably still Google like hyper Sumo GIFs and see some cool shit. Yeah, probably. But the question is, is it the same cool shit

that you're thinking of, or is it a different new cool shit? Oh, there it is right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, we're still doing it. Awesome. So this channel is? Midnight Sumo. Okay. Really good. So this channel is is midnight sumo, okay

Really good guys got guys got like a good like soft radio man voice It's perfect for commentating sumo So it's really quite good. I advise anybody who has a passing interest in sumo to check it out in fact Is he on there right now? No, that's the Don't don't don't stop watching this. Now, would you say that you have a passing interest in Taka Arashi? Uh, no. Okay.

He's too big. Okay. Virtual Fighter came out everybody! How about that? It's out. Virtual Fighter's out and you can't make fun of me for liking Virtua Fighter anymore now that Virtua Fighter is back. That is the new rule. You can't be- you can't do it.

I'm sure- We're gonna go into the new world of Virtua Fighter going forward. I'm sure- And you'll look silly. I'm sure glad that this new world of Virtua Fighter has hitched its ride to Nvidia That's great no no you see you misunderstand Nvidia has Troubles and Nvidia hedged their bets by hitching their ride to the incoming era of Virtua Fighter I'm I have to say I'm you know say, I'm embarrassed I didn't see it coming initially, you're 1000% correct. I mean, 6D Copium is a thing to behold.

It really is, it's just, I'm watching the stars and the lines. Virtua Fighter helped Nvidia get its start, so Virtua Fighter is gonna help Nvidia come back from the brink. I think the new Virtua Fighter, Virtua Fighter helped Nvidia get its start, so Virtua Fighter is gonna help Nvidia come back from the brink. I think the new Virtua Fighter, Virtua Fighter 6, will make $600 billion in profits. Yes.

Light work. But also, genuinely, like, I mean, we'll probably talk about this in the news, probably, but like, Nvidia has the Nintendo Switch contract, so they're fine they're also the only like it's like I mean when it comes to video cards it's them and you know buy an ATR a like in peasant we're not like the conversation feels like it's completely shifted like there's nothing else remember voodoo

member member voodoo back in the day? No, that's not even the question, Willy. The real question is do you remember Voodoo 2? Yeah, Voodoo 2 was the good one. But like there were actual video card options and competitors It was a thing to yet to go look at. I used to have Nvidia, sorry, ATI cards. I had a 9600 XT. It was a great card. Yeah, I had an ATI rage. There were 3DFX back in the day as well. And look, you looked at the stats, you looked at the numbers, but then you looked at the stupid 3D reboot character on the box and went, I want that one.

No, what you actually did- It's the fairy with the gun. that one. No, what you actually did is you looked at Doom 3 and then you looked at Half-Life 2 and you said, which of these games do I want my video card to run well? Because Doom 3 ran well on Nvidia, but Half-Life 2 ran well on ATI. And I said, well, Half-Life 2 is going to have all those Counter-Strike and Day of Defeat shit come out for it, so I should probably go with ATI. And then Day of Defeat, Source came out, and it sucked ass. And then fucking CS Source came out,

and it was dog shit compared to 1.6. And I made a mistake. Yeah, right around that time was more like, my main concern was can any of these handle Allegro any better so that Mugen will run at peak form when we start getting into the weird wild like massive resource characters, I remember running World of Warcraft on a g-force 2 And that was like punching way above its weight class That's crazy. G-force once upon a time was like the holy fuck you got one. Yeah

fuck you got one. Yeah. Um. No, so anyway back to what really matters. Yes, Virtua Fighter 5 Revo is out and it played the online play is about on par with the beta, which is pretty good. Has some hiccups. It really really doesn't like it when your frame rate drops. If your frame rate drops. If your frame rate drops below a lock 60 at any point, you start to get skipping and desyncing and shit like that. The desyncs have been cleaned up. Are there connection settings?

Yes. Absolutely. You can do rollback from balanced performance or quality, but you can also manually change it from 0 to 10 frames of rollback. Though I would not recommend 10 frames of rollback. Can you also change the frame rate of the game in the settings? No. The frame rate is 60. If it's not the of the game in the snow? Okay? Yeah, I would frame rate is 60 If it's not 60 the game don't work that would be extremely weird given online then make it very So I did a big stream yesterday ran a bunch of tournaments

That tournament functionality still works great nice Games great games virtual fighter. It's a virtual fighter. That means is great. It's good Games Virtua Fighter. It's Virtua Fighter. That means it's great. It's good Did I actually have a lot to talk about with Virtua Fighter other it's good. Well, did I did I see that there were costumes? There were new. Oh No, there's like 30th anniversary like bathing suit costumes, but like whatever though the Yakuza and Tekken costumes are also there. Okay, though Yakuza- But those are all really old actually. The Yakuza costumes are old.

Those are from like 2018 or something. Ah. But they're quite old. I didn't realize that. Okay, okay, I thought they dropped some new shit. All right, fair enough, cool. No, this is a re-release of a classic game with working online. Though I will say, there is, this is a re-release of a classic game with working online. Though

I will say there is something that is a little disappointing and you get to see it with people that don't know how fighting games work and why rollback is so important. So the open beta for VF5 Revo was free, right? Anybody could play it. And I messed around with the rollback and I found that the rollback in the final retail release is somewhat improved from the open beta, mainly the desyncs resync more consistently. Like in the beta, if you desynced, it would kind of stay desynced and be a problem. However, you go to the game's review page or you go to the game's subreddit and people go, this is so weird because everyone's ping is higher than it was during the beta. I can't find any games that are under 100 ping. I'm in

Europe and it's Monday, yadda yadda. And the difference is, is that they are playing a paid game right now instead of an open beta, so the matches that they are pulling from are farther away because there's less people. And with most games, this wouldn't be as noticeable. But we are talking about 20 year old ass Virtua Fighter V revision, which has maybe one to 3,000 people playing it at any given time. 20 year old ass Virtua Fighter V revision, which has maybe one to three thousand people playing it at any given time. So if you are in the middle of Europe in Germany, you are probably playing someone in fucking France or some shit. Yeah, your ping is a little higher than a hundred.

I would even say that like while they get important stress testing data out of an open beta, what you're not going gonna get personally is the feeling of fighting someone really far away if there's enough people around, you know? Like, the real conditions are this. So I ran some tournaments and that included people from like, as far away as Norway, and people that were in like Eastern Europe, like, okay yeah, it was getting a little dicey at some parts, but like overall I would say that the rollback is about an equivalent of Tekken.

It's not Street Fighter 6's. Oh God, is it not Street Fighter 6's? It's good enough. Mad Fientist... Any Japanese players? No. Okay. So, and that actually is my other question.

I'm curious. For you personally now aside from you know so it's funny you like naming people like naming it getting out but like oh you're getting them in you're getting them no no no no no no no they're getting out of fighting games because Virtua Fighter is out you don't need to play fighting games plural anymore you get you just need game There's only Virtua Fighter now. Understood. I should mention that I changed the meaning of the title of that section based on my vibe for the day. I see. So if I'm really good at the fighting game in question, it's to beat people

out of fighting games. If I'm really bad at the fighting game in question, it's me being a sour puss like Crybaby, and I'm getting out of fighting games. And if Virtua Fighter is out, then it's about getting out of other fighting games to get into Virtua Fighter. Okay, all right. There's a, yeah, there's a flexibility to that.

Understood. Didn't you mean this? No, stupid, I obviously meant this other thing that I didn't. I lied. It's called an option select. That is in fact an option select. Something that you should learn once you're in fighting games, but once you get out, you don't need to use it anymore. I am fuzzy guarding the title of my program. was he guarding the title of my program? What did you find was the skill level like for your matches online with just, you know, ranks?

Zero or 10. Yeah, okay. Absolutely, this has a bell curve of two points, which is brand new player who will not rematch you, and this dude lives in an who will not rematch you and this dude lives in an arcade and will rematch you until the sun burns out. You have gotten stomped or done the stomping and there's no in between. There's no in between. When I was having chat tournaments, chat tournaments had the full range of new players and

like intermediate players and like killers. But if you just hit ranked, you are dealing with new people and you're dealing with like stone cold murderers. Literally Fudo. Yeah, right there. Okay, okay. And interesting. And so yeah, I'm sure over time, you know, you'll start to see that like pare down a little bit. Also, of course, depending on the time of day. But I'd be curious to log in during a Japanese weekend and try to see what that looks like specifically. Yeah, because it was hard to engage because it's Monday afternoon when this shit dropped. Right. It's like that's not exactly the most peak-ass time ever. But the world was never going to get set on fire by VF5 Revo. VF5 Revo is like a... like in a

different world this would have been like a pack-in game for like a different Sega game. Be like, look, remember Virtua Fighter potentially but it also it also helps the team figure out how to do rollback it's a test game it is a price it's a you know it's a you know a B2P test yeah they I I read an interview today that the devs basically were, they didn't know if they could do Rollback because the guts of VIA 5 Revo are like 13, 14 years old. And it was definitely not built with it in mind. And it's a 3D fighting game. That's it.

It's that struggle of like, yeah, we've talked about this a bunch of times, but it's like it's that struggle of the game that is too recent to just be like, yeah, slap that in an emulator. The emulator will handle all the rollback, you know, anything that's like, yeah, that's 3D and like from like, yeah, the last 10 or so where you're like, oh, you've got to go back in and implement this in a much more difficult way. Like the source code for VF5 was built with no online functionality or care at all back in the aughts. But like, ironically, the older the game is, the easier it is to implement. Yeah, you throw more processing power at it.

You know, more processing power at it. Infinite processing power. There's the close window of time that's actually the hardest where Dragon Ball and Samurai showed out and all these other things are struggling. I may be reading between the lines slightly on the interview, but they said that basically if they couldn't get Rollback working for VF5 Revo, they feel like they shouldn't have even made it at all. Like rollback was like the single number one priority. And they describe how they started working on the rollback functionality before committing to making the game.

So like they went into the process of throwing their nerds at it to see if they could technically manage to get it to do rollback before going up and being like, we should put VF5 Revo out. Because they describe the technical difficulties in implementing it as extreme. Yeah. Well, none of this is surprising, nor should it it be given that they attempted a re-release of this game not but a year or two before and they just completely ignored that topic and it fucked over the entire thing. The entire release was nothing but 100% of the audience

going why would you make it without rollback? Like so it so hard that after having every inbox possible blown up with... I don't even remember what the version was called. E-sports. E-sports edition? Yeah. It's just... It's called Virtua Fighter E-sports. It's insane, right?

But it's like, yeah, no. It was loud and clear at that point that everyone that is interested in this game of which there are a few numbers out there 100% of that smaller number want you to put working fucking netcode in this thing and if you continue to just pretend that Only Japan exists and as long as it works here, then it's fine. They talk about that in the interview really Yes, wow. What do they say? It's not it's not this It's not a super long interview, but they're like, we realized very early on that in a region like Japan, where players are extremely close together geographically, that these types of network conditions can be mitigated much more easily.

But if you plan to sell your game overseas to anywhere, regional distances are much, much larger, and rollback becomes mandatory. God. To hear this from Sega on Virtua Fighter is crazy. And the thing is, is we know that it's like, we know that it's born from stubbornness because we've seen the round table discussions

that were literally aired. We've seen the fact that a bunch of different creators in the genre get together and they talk about what's going on, they talk about technology, they talk about stuff. And the last two or three round tables, the chat's just exploding with one word and we're just going to pretend we're not seeing it, we're just going to move forward. But it's like we know at this point that like Namco is working with, they have some people

in the West that know how to use rollback and we know that SNK is working with some of them, and like each studio that doesn't, it's just like, it's out of your own stubbornness at that point, you know? So, yeah, feel the fucking heat of making a release, having it eat shit, and then, hey, try, send the plate back, is basically what the community did. They sent it back and the chef fucking fixed it and now here we go. Thank you. So I'm gonna step outside of the interviews and whatnot for Virtua Fighter and I feel like I can put a couple pieces together. Virtua Fighter esports or Virtua Fighter Ultimate Showdown US. Racist netcode Edition. Dismal failure. Like that was supposed to be, yeah,

Virtua Fighter's back and like complete dismal failure. I feel like the sequence of events is, that game eats shit. Guy on RGG goes, give me that shit and then asks the technical team on RGG goes, give me that shit, and then asks the technical team if they can make rollback work for Virtua Fighter V. Yes, we can. Start work on VF5 Revo.

Hey guys, we have a team in place that can do Virtua Fighter VI. Give us Virtua Fighter. In fact, I believe that, We have a team in place that can do virtual fighter six give us virtual fighter in fact I believe that and I'll even add a step in between one and two Fucking eSports edition each shit and likely they go internally well guess everyone hates virtual fighter No, then not me then our GG guy steps in and does it. Yeah, because it's like, wow, buy the numbers. And they're like, aren't you guys already making three games? And they're like, whatever. You know, like, I swear to God, I can feel in my bones the like, well, you said people would like this and it seems they don't, therefore, we're fucked this franchise then.

Buy the numbers and then somebody has to- Hey, you know that team of guys who've been steadily implementing iterations on your extraordinarily successful cheap game to produce series and you just kind of leave? So there was a fucking interview with, I think it was the director of RGG around infinite wealth and he described his boss coming to him and just telling him, yeah, just keep doing whatever for the Like A Dragon series. Like that's their advice. That's the implement, that's the fucking, the word on high is just keep doing whatever.

Like it's just every year there's a boardroom, you know, and everyone gets around and then RGG guy just like clicks the slide and then it's just a picture of Jack Sparrow and the CEO is like, Subarashi. Yeah, great. Fucking. All right. We're going home, done.

So yeah, this is a test game, but it's not the usual test game because it doesn't feel like it's testing the audience. What it feels like is like practice. It feels like a dry run for the technical thing. And deep in that, at the end of that interview, is we don't believe we will encounter nearly the same difficulties starting from scratch with Virtua Fighter 6. Which, no, of course you wouldn't. Right? Like...

Could you imagine? Could you imagine six drops and the net code is terrible. Oh my god. That'd be... I would kill myself. I would do it. I would do it. It's over. It's so over. It's so over. Oh fuck. Oh man. Oh fate. Oh reality. We can't put that energy out there. But yeah, no, Virtua Fighter's back, hooray. I'm probably gonna do some, probably gonna run tournaments every couple of weeks or every week for a while, because under the context of like,

hey audience, this game cost $16 Want to run some sets and it's like relatively easy to start playing It's easy to fill up a 16-man tournament. Yeah, the brightening said I ran a 16-man double elimination tournament. It took three Point it's like three hours and ten minutes. Okay. Like it's the full set. So basically 16 people jump in a lobby and then it automates the rest, right? It takes care of it. It automates everything. You said double elimination.

And it just, it counts, it does the rounds correctly, does the matches correctly, it runs the loser bracket. Are people simultaneously playing or is everyone watching? You can choose yes or no. Okay, okay. So I chose no to watch all the matches Yeah, and so we watched all the matches and I commentated on all matches, but you can do it simultaneous You can also run a 16 person round robin tournament. That's crazy. And that I would highly recommend putting Fucking simultaneous matches on okay. Holy shit,. But for everyone's, you know, mental reference, it does not take

that long to do that size of a bracket. That's just... Not if you're doing simultaneous match. That's just to spectate and have everybody get to watch each other play. So yeah. Yeah, no. It's a pretty solid package, though I will say there is no definitive version of Virtua Fighter V. For some reason, this version of the game has none of the Quest stuff from earlier Virtua Fighter V releases. There's missing content. It has none of the single player content. This is for fighting people online.

It's almost like a bit of a Marvel 2 situation where it's like each release has something up with it at least a little bit unless you're in the arcades yourself. Okay. It's really weird. The amount of online options are great. You have double and single elimination tournaments. You have team battles.

You have round robin tournaments. You have a couple types of room options. Like you have kumite fucking rooms. It's great. It works really well. Where'd all that single player content go? I don't know. I don't get it. They're like there's arcade mode, but that's it. Well, did they ever, cause I'm not too sure. You know how like four had the like tour Japan and fight the pros. Yeah, no, that's what I'm talking about. There was a version of VF5 that had that I was thinking I think it was a 360 version Okay, and that's just not as well. It's just not there. Mmm, and that it had the AIs of like different player styles That sucks. Okay, if I had to guess it's because the AI of all those player styles are locked to whatever version of the game

they were created for And don't work if that data doesn't get exported properly then yeah, that would make sense, too Or if it was arcade data even or something else, you know what I mean? Like yeah, there could be hiccups there Yeah, but now there's a steam game that you can kiss on while you wait for virtual fighter 6 I also watched the frosty fastingsing's Top 8 for VF5 Revo. It's great! Tasty Steve and Team Chris are great Virtua Fighter commentators. Yeah, well I've never heard Steve doing any VF. That should be interesting. He's great. He has a great energy for that shit.

So the official VF6 waiting room is now here. Yeah. Effectively. Vf6 waiting room is now here. Yeah, so the official Vf6 waiting room includes Ryan Hart is also doing Fucking videos on the virtual fighter channel that came out today. If you saw that nice, okay No, it's got like blocking his heart at Ryan's dojo Also Ryan Hart is like turning into Leroy have you seen him Also, Ryan Hart is like turning into Leroy. Have you seen him? I saw him last Evo.

Okay, he's got like the salt and pepper shit going and he looks great. Do I... can I also improve my Virtua Fighter 6 game by watching a Jackie Chan movie. You can, absolutely. So this is just like a really, like a minor detail, but the VF6 development preview, the fuckin' like the- The bull shot. The vertical slice, the bull shot that they gave to the higher ups is based off of,

I don't remember what movie it is, but it's based off of the second fight between Jackie Chan and Benny the Jet. God. And it's just like a shot for shot remake. Anytime you see defensive stuff happening way too deliberately in that way, it's like, come on guys, don't do this. And what's dumb is that the actual real gameplay they did show in the reveal is great It's way faster, but just you didn't have to do this thing and then confuse people and it's uh Fucking bullshot stuff man and get out see that was not for like that one didn't really feel like it was for the audience

That was in videos technical demonstration Right because that's where it got showed it got showed in videos conference feel like it was for the audience. That was Nvidia's technical demonstration, right? Because that's where it got shown. It got shown at Nvidia's conference. Okay, to an audience of people that have no idea. Because it was supposed to look pretty. Sure. And that was described as like the pre-development visualization, which is, I believe, code for this is the thing the RGG team put together to show their boss to give them the okay to keep making Virtua Fighter. Previz typically can be a pitch

or it can be a vertical slice but like you could or preview no not a vertical slice like Previz is gonna be like yeah the image that is that you take and then you start actually coding around you know what you got there. But so the real question is like when are we gonna see more Virtua Fighter because they haven't actually shown off like any extended gameplay of the real game yet. I don't think it will be at EVO. I think it might be around that time. Yeah, I think it will be perhaps behind closed doors, you know.

But like I mean the front facingfacing hey everybody look at virtual fighter because The thing that they did with the VF direct Feels like they're gonna have their own like dedicated little like shows where they're gonna come out out of nowhere going tomorrow 40 minutes of virtual fighter ah And they'll have the CEO of Sega come up and be like I I love Virtua Fighter and give a thumbs up and all that shit. It's been rather sudden out of nowhere marketing announcements so far. So I assume that'll continue, but it'd be cool if they did start taking it around and showing off more or like, you know, character profiles or there's a bunch of people and just looking at that cast and I'm like, you know what I'm looking at I'm looking at a cast that is just going to be replaced

like almost Almost to the character like I wonder see the thing is I feel like Virtua Fighter is not at the level where you can drop one character as a reveal and have it be the huge pop. You got to do a couple of things. So I feel like each trailer might show off a group. And with each group, you want to have a couple of returning and some new shit, right?

I have a feeling, archetype-wise, we'll get essentially the VF1 cast, G Kundo, wrestler, et cetera. But like those, it's been so, so long. It would not surprise me if Akira is the only character to actually show up in VF6 from the old games. That would be nuts. Would it, Wooly? Would it?

Virtua Fighter the fucking the story lists But like well look if you're gonna grant to resmo of fighting games if you're gonna third strike or Garrow virtual fighter and put a bunch of cool characters in I'm I'm always open to the possibility But I do feel like oh, you know folks are like you I want wolf I want to you know I kind of want to the possibility, but I do feel like, oh, you know, folks are like, yo, I want Wolf. I wanna, you know, I kinda wanna see. Who said that, Woolie? Ruflemonger. Yeah, and me. Anyway, shout out to Ruflemonger.

He's got two great videos on Virtua Fighter right now, How to Pick a Main and Basics, which is about three and a half hours in total. Great place to start if you wanna learn how to play VF5 Revo. Yeah, look, I'm always excited for the prospect of the new generation, but you just, you wanna get combat kids, you don't wanna get

caliber kids, right? We've been over this. Oh man, hey, so I'm gonna shoot my shot right now. I said this yesterday on my stream. I'm going to say it here so everyone can mock or laud me as appropriate. Akira's obviously there and Sarah's been replaced by Stella. If there was a single character that was likely to also make it across into the future with Akira, It would be Vanessa

One she's very popular mm-hmm and two Because of the der all Experiments that led to her dramatic change in skin tone They can justify her not aging at a regular rate. Because to people who don't know, Virtua Fighter is a sci-fi series. I appreciate the lore. I was not aware. Damn. You were not aware that's why she had a change in appearance? I think I forgot. It's because she she had a change in appearance. I think I forgot it's because she was

Partially turned into Darol gotcha. Okay, that's why that's why okay? Well, hey look, you know kage can be a ninja master that teaches a new ninja student certainly Yeah, you know and literally just call him kage again. You can have Blaze Jr. That's not his name. No, he's a shadow. You can have Blaze Jr. You can have like, yeah, so some characters can be like king sort of like inherited roles and such.

I mean, I don't like a young drunken master might be a problem, but then Jamie's chillin'. I think that Shun-D has a better shot at getting into VF6 at like 120 years old A billion super olds Than Lau does I think that would be Lau has been dying of lung cancer since 1993

It would be quite hilarious that old man Shun D is actually still doing it I kind of like that idea Yeah Yeah I love I love Virtua Fighter. Also, hey, you know what? It was the two-year anniversary and we've got confirmation that there will be a sequel. So, I went back to Hi-Fi Rush. Nice. I said, **** it and I went back to Hi-Fi Rush and I discovered

that if you've beaten the game, it will let you start a game of Rhythm Master on New Game. So Rhythm Master is the very hard difficulty. Right away. Plus, if you hit D on your style, you just instantly die. Okay. It's not that hard, genuinely, outside of the first 60 seconds of a boss fight. The first 60 seconds of a boss fight, you have to get in there and start doing it within one second of gaining the controls, or you just die. Style or die is pretty cool.

Okay. It's not quite like heaven or hell, you know? Like it's not going, or like hell or hell. It's like you're kinda, it's not about like- Hell or hell still works along like the more or less regular rules of the game. Mm-hmm. But- Also, it's weird, hell or hell is easier than heaven or hell.

Do you know that? Because it's one touch both ways. Yeah. No, hell or hell I find easier than heaven or hell. Heaven or hell, everything is one touch both ways. Hell or hell is one touch but only for you, but it gives you three tries. So you can fuck up. So there are certain bosses on hell or hell that are much easier on hell

Or hell than heaven or hell? Because they just they're just so much more aggressive and they can tag you instantly but in but in this case like Not not beyond getting touched like not being stylish enough and it's over Yeah, so like the very first boss, like QA one million, it's like unless you immediately dash forward and start comboing his chest after dodging the very first swipe, you will just instantly die right away

because the combo counter just starts to tick down. What does Corsica's fight look like? Don't know, I'll let you know when I get there. Okay. I did the first two levels and was like, oh yeah, this is manageable. Though I assume it's going to become considerably less manageable once I have to start dealing with those fucking samurais with parries. And you have full kit like immediately of course. Nope. No. No. No. Dude, when I said I started rhythm master on new game. Oh

My mistake, okay. I am I am streaming the hardest version of hi-fi rush that exists And there is no upgrades box. There is no moves unlocked gotcha gotcha gotcha, okay? Yeah, it's tough, but like it's it's not nearly what I expected. And then once I'm done with that, I can try BPM mode, which is so for real. Did you spend any time with BPM mode? No. So BPM mode is like the tower, like the bloody palace. But as you go up the tower, the songs start to change and they start to get higher BPM. So the game starts to go turbo and then it starts to go turbo turbo.

But you still have to keep up the rhythm. Yeah, it's crazy. No, that definitely deserves a another look before whatever sequel starts coming around. Oh, my God. Oh My god, oh Stalks so deformed. Oh Aside from that, I don't know not a whole lot You can check out my stupid channel over at twitch.tv slash Pat stares at gonna be playing more metal gear this week and

more More hi-Fi Rush. Oh, people were m- Yeah, Ninja Gaiden Black came out of nowhere. There's some news for ya. So that's technically Docket. So yeah, the, uh... Ninja Gaiden Black 2. Pretty fun, should run better. It should run better. So, Ninja Gaiden is a weird, complete, like, knowledge, like like vacuum for me I've only I

worked I did QA on Sigma black like you do for like a couple for like you know very for not long like like basically like two or three days tops. I don't know much else. Why this specific release? Alright, so let's go through it. Alright. And of course, we might as well touch on the fact that alongside this was the announcement that Ninja Gaiden 4 co-developed with Platinum Games is going to be happening as well. Platinum going back to their lot in life

Which is helping other people make better games, but the platinum people that we knew are not there anymore So it's kind of like I guess the people that are left at platinum You know should still be a pretty fucking cool game all things considered Let's be right back for 30 seconds so I can get a caffeine and power through this explanation because it's going to use some words. BRB. Right. So you want to play Ninja Gaiden, huh?

So I perhaps, I know that I have a perspective that is confused on this, but my impression from the outside has been that Ninja Gaiden has had revision one of their games called Black and then revision two would be called Sigma. No! Already! Okay. And then also I'm wondering why specifically going back to two here as there was there was like, as opposed to three or one or so but all right. All right. All right. So you want to play Ninja Gaiden. All right. First off, Ninja Gaiden was made by Team Ninja under Tomonobo, Tomonobo, Tomonobo, Itagaki.

Itagaki. It was a hard ass motherfucking action game and was extremely popular, right, on the Xbox. Then they released, I believe this is the order, some of these details might be a little off because there's a lot here. They released what was called the Hurricane Pack versions one and two and that was like a little bit extra like a costume Wasn't like two nuts, but it was like oh cool costume or maybe like an extra bonus level that kind of thing then They released ninja Gaiden black which was the essential special edition of that game

We are not talking about the Nintendo games. We are talking about the Xbox games. Yes. Ninja Gaiden Black was an improved version of Ninja Gaiden in pretty much every way. It had more enemy types, it had more weapons, it had some changes that everybody liked. And that was really cool. Then Ninja Gaiden 2 came out. Wait, is that the order? Sigma first. Sigma was first. Then Ninja Gaiden Sigma came out, which was the PS3 version of that game, which had the dual sword weapons, but It was built off like a different version of the game because it was ps3 So I believe it had other issues that like not as many enemies on screen It also had balance changes that were like just generally unpopular

So like if you wanted to play Ninja Gaiden, I would recommend you play Ninja Gaiden black problem with Ninja Gaiden black Is that Ninja Gaiden black. Problem with Ninja Gaiden Black is that Ninja Gaiden Black only exists on the original Xbox. So, uh... Then Ninja Gaiden 2 came out on the 360. Ninja Gaiden 2 is a great game. Just a great game. It's super violent. It is... Has a lot of dismemberment. It throws a million enemies at you, it's crazy. Then later, when it got ported, Ninja Gaiden 2 became Ninja Gaiden Sigma, which included

new bosses as well as, yeah sorry, Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2. I'm sorry, this is... But that's my, that's'm sorry. This is but that's my that's the point This is the point you're fucking it up now He became Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 yes, which included new bosses and weapons it also ruined the game's progression and all of the new bosses were terrible and it included new alternate character stories like Rachel and terrible and it included new alternate

character stories like Rachel and Ayanes which are terrible. So the update to 2 fucked it up. And and here's where it really matters, it decreased the amount of enemies that you would fight at one time and didn't have any gore. Gotcha. Hence why we need to black now to go back and fix that bad update. Well then we get ninjas, then we get three. Ninja

Gaiden 3 which was made without Itagaki and it sucks. It's not good. And it includes like weird scenes like a soldier like begging for his life before Ryu kills him And it's very like like feel bad about the edge and all that it's fucking it's terrible And then Ninja Gaiden 3 racers edge came out Yes, and racers edge removes a bunch of that shit and puts a lot of more classic controls back in and it's better, but it's not one or two. It's definitely not one or two. Then the Ninja Gaiden Master Collection came out, which was Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Ninja

Gaiden Sigma 2, and Ninja Gaiden Razor's Edge, which then people went and modded Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 and Ninja Gaiden Razor's Edge, which then people went and modded Ninja Gaiden 2 Sigma to be Ninja Gaiden 2 Black by reintroducing the amounts of enemies and tweaking their health values. And now- We just sleeping on Yiba, Ninja Gaiden Z? We sure are. Along the way, somebody points out, there was a game called Ninja guidance Sigma 2 plus mm-hmm I don't know where that came out. I know it has more costumes Whatever but now you're at Ninja guidance to black which is how I accidentally said it when I started streaming it

Which was humorous to me? Ninja guidance to black is said it when I started streaming it, which was humorous to me. Ninja Gaiden 2 Black is still Sigma. It's still Ninja Gaiden 2 Sigma, which people don't like. And the reason why they keep reusing Sigma, even though people don't like Sigma as much as the original, is because they have lost the original. The original version of Ninja Gaiden 2 no longer exists. Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 plus is the Vita version of Sigma 2. Whatever. So Ninja Gaiden 2 black is still Sigma, but they have toned down the health values of a lot of the more troublesome enemies on sigma to more black levels and then they have added more weapons but they've removed some of the content

the costumes that were added by sigma and sigma master and sigma 2 plus and they have removed two of the new shitty bosses but left one in but changed its name for some reason. And now it runs in Unreal 5. And also if we're going to mention a Vita version of the game we'd be remiss to not mention a Ninja Gaiden Dragon Sword. For the DS. So Ninja Gaiden 2 Black is definitely the best version of the game that you can play that is like, of the best of the Ninja Gaiden games that you can play easily.

Original black. No, no, Ninja Gaiden 2 Black, which is the new release. Sorry, this current, okay. This current black. This current black. Yes. Okay. But if you're a purist and you really like the absolute ridiculous mass of enemies, the only way to play Ninja Gaiden 2 original reliably is to either have a 360 or buy Ninja Gaiden

2 Master Collection and then get the black mod off the Nexus to black it. Wait, you've got a... Up. You've got a mod it black. Yes. Okay, so fans made their own black mod and then you can drop that on. I see. Yeah.

For the master collection. Well, shit. So the collection doesn't even give you Version variants then you just have no it gives you the smith the smigma gives you the smigmas and The racers edge you you're forced to have the sigma is even okay, okay God so then fuck the collection No, cuz the collection is the only way to get to mod Ninja Gaiden 2 original by going and modding it to be the original enemy placement, which is unfortunately not in Ninja

Gaiden 2 Black. It's a mess. It's a mess. It is a mess. And so, here's where it gets actually the two... When does Ninja Blade fit into the timeline? It doesn't. That's a From Software game. Ninja Blade fits alongside... software game. Ninja Blade fits alongside... is it Evergrace? That RPG that From Software did where you fight Michael Wilson at the end. You know that Michael Wilson is in Ninja Blade? In other stuff? Oh yeah. Yeah, he's a CIA agent that you work with in Ninja Blade before he became the president. Yo, mid-auts to from soft was wild.

Yeah. So here's Enchanted Arms. That's right. You can fight Metal Wolf as the secret boss in Enchanted Arms. So here's where it breaks down. The original version of Ninja Gaiden 2 that everybody loves and loves so much had an absolutely insane enemy count and ran like complete dog shit because it had an absolute insane enemy count.

It also had like blood effects going everywhere due to it ran so bad, but it was crazy, but it ran so bad but it was crazy but it ran so bad and on top of that like a lot of enemies had like uh exploding kunai they would throw at you from like off screen so like it was a mess it was like there were fights in that game that were absolutely fucking ridiculous so my overall vibe of uh ninja gaiden been that it's like, it's the character action game, but it's not about styling. It's not about style. Everything can kill you instantly and you can kill everything instantly.

It's about doing things with perfect timing and killing as much as possible as fast as possible. Fuck style entirely. It is anti-style, it's about efficiency. Survival. Yeah, and in particular, Ninja Gaiden 2 has the hallway. There's like a hallway up to like a big temple, and it is like the microwave hallway,

but instead of microwaves, it's the most enemies you could ever imagine thrown at you. It's like a dynasty warriors amount of enemies thrown at you with a character action toolkit. But they're all real. Right. Right. Right. It is fucking bananas.

So when Sigma tone that down to be like a regular game, they then increased enemy health, which made the player feel a lot less powerful, which is why people don't jive with Sigma. Like, Sigma is a less idiosyncratic, but overall better game than the original was. So the original had an E-SEN-like system, right? Where you could attack right as you were about to get hit and just behead. No, it's in fact the opposite of the E-Send system. They counter hit you to death.

No. It's instead of perfectly timing your strike to instantly kill, it's when you kill an enemy and they drop their yorbs or their robs or their blorbs, you can hold down the heavy attack and you suck in all the robs and that makes an invincible combo attack that will auto kill everything in your vicinity. So it's not about perfect timing. It's about finding the spot that you can dedicate to charging for two seconds. Like in this huge chaotic nightmare melee, when can I sigma up all these

orbs to do my ultimate technique? Is that a screen clear or just immediate vicinity? It depends how long you charge it. Interesting. Okay. If you charge it for like a little bit, it'll kill one enemy. If you charge it for a little bit, it'll kill like three or four. If you get up to like level three, it'll kill like four or five. Because I feel like I'm remembering these insane screen crowds and just a whole lot

of what looks like ESEN, like quick beheading slashes and then like, okay, the numbers are back down and oh, they fled back in again. So the trick is that when you use a UT you You use up the currency like that you absorb you are using it up to power the next attack Okay, but anything you kill will drop more than average spent stuff. Okay, so when you use a UT You definitely want to make sure it kills what you're fighting. Okay, and then it seemed like boss fights However are much more in line with you know, yeah They're brought to those fights like you're going through the faces and wailing on them. Absolutely

Yeah, the ninja Gaiden the boss fights are not great and some of those boss fights are like viciously terrible In Ninja Gaiden 2 original, I don't know if they ever changed this There's a gigantic like ice hedgehog that you fight like it's enormous. It's like it's a terrible boss fight and then right before it dies. It does like a self destruction like it's move and it will kill you.

100% of the time and there's no way to dodge it and it's a completely empty arena. And in the original Xbox 360 version, the only way to survive the fight was to make sure you have enough magic ready for the end of the fight that when it explodes you start casting the fire spell so that you are invincible when the explosion goes off. God damn, okay. Like this is the kind of nonsense we're talking about. I like I remember copious amounts of like fuck you game design discussions around this game for sure over the years yeah yeah okay

and and each one I feel like was accompanied with an itagaki interview where he was like getting drunk and laughing I'm being told after all these years that you can just block it okay you just block it I never thought to just block it I thought it would power through Or that's crazy, okay, so there's a block button. Yeah, there's a block button. No shit. All right well I Think I think the ninja guide into experience is best summed up by the game's first room Because the game's first room is you have a cutscene that doesn't make any sense And then it drops you into the tutorial where like four ninjas are attacking our hero Ryu Hayabusa and at the bottom of the screen it says hit X to attack light hit Y to do

heavy attack and hit A to jump and you have to do each of those before the tutorial goes over like to the next stage of the tutorial but unlike every tutorial in almost every game ever made, the enemies that are in that tutorial are the normal real enemies that are trying to kill you. So as you read that and go, how do I hit the button, they are all simultaneously attacking you to kill you. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Something else I'm remembering is that your secondary weapon, I guess maybe early or so you get is like a big long staff, right?

And it's like much slower. And it felt like, you know, in a game where you're styling on an enemy and you juggle them up, you can switch to a slower weapon and start doing, you know, your Captain Kilgore shit or so. This seems like death in this case. You don't you don't switch to other weapons. So like switching is is you go into the d pad menu and you switch to a different weapon. It is the weapon switching is not for like mid combo weapon switching is for the next part of this level. I would like to use the

nunchucks. Okay, okay, right. I seem to recall the regular sword like just being way better at like dispatching everything coming at you versus the staff. It felt like the staff was like, yeah, just wasn't able to keep up. The sword is the best weapon in the game. The starting sword is the best weapon. X Buster, yeah, okay.

Yeah, it's, so Ninja Gaiden 2 Black is here and it's a pretty good version. It should run better But If you don't know anybody ninja Gaiden, this is a decent enough place to start very interested in seeing ninja Gaiden 4 and what's up with that? Yeah, uh I mean look if Platinum's gotta fucking do the other thing that Platinum does you know like If Platinum's gotta fucking do the other thing that Platinum does, you know, like, all right, jump on, help him out. It feels as if, even though it's not really the case,

but it feels as if Team Ninja and Platinum were kind of like soft rivals over the years. You know? So this kind of coming to... Well, I don't think that the timeline on that actually works out. Yeah, it just, again, it just kind of soft feels like it, right, based based on you know

The the like this is the character action space and those are the other folks that do games like this But you know altogether Let's like for somebody like you who has like not really fucked with the Ninja Gaiden series. Yeah pick up two black Uh, it's a good game uh, it's also hilarious in how much time it dedicates to things that it doesn't give a shit about. The story? Like, nonsense. Incredibly short cutscenes that are fucking incomprehensible. I had it on the LP shortlist some time ago, but I kind of forgot. It's good. It is vicious. It vicious it is a vicious mean game though.

Of note there's no new game plus feature at all so when you pick like Grandmaster Super Ninja fucking difficulty it's like yeah no you're starting with no upgrades fucking earn them it's ridiculous. But yeah I just like that overall thing of like there is no style just fucking just kill and go. Just don't die is a different there's a different appeal there well as somebody who played all of these games to some degree because there would always be this like fucking web forum thing of like man look at all this cool shit I can do is Dante in Devil May Cry I can do all these crazy moves can you do those moves in Ninja Gaiden what does Ninja Gaiden? And the answer is it has enemies that fight back.

Right. Ninja Gaiden enemies are trying to kill you. A lot, like very much. They're really fucking aggressive. And the the I'm not gonna sugarcoat it XY XXY. And the the I'm not gonna sugarcoat it xy xxy Whatever whatever that means it's a that's the azuna drop command ah Well damn I mean in Dead or Alive proper it works every time yeah fucking Hayabusa's the shit It's so wild that Dead or Alive like you what if you do play Ninja Gaiden too, remember that Dead or Alive is happening two towns over while

this shit is happening because these aren't like these aren't like sister series like Ninja Gaiden's modern incarnation is like a spin-off of Dead or Alive. Yeah no Tina is riding a horse and Zach is doing his funky dance Yeah, and while meet Ayane and you in in Ninja Gaiden like she's there while people's heads are flying the fuck off of their bodies So like when you're doing all this nonsense with Ryu Hayabusa, you have to remember Like yeah bass could do that Mm-hmm Like and and also a beach island vacation is happening right over there. Yeah, also, also, Nicole of the Spartan program is somewhere in the background.

Oh, no way! Get the fuck out! Somewhere, somewhere out there, somewhere out there. God damn it. Oh there God remember that in the future of dead or alive even the super ninja Ryu Hayabusa cannot stand to the might of the Covenant Spartan 9-1 whatever is actually in Ninja Gaiden. No, no, she's not but the universe is the same Therefore yes, okay, right does exist Somewhere canonically in there. Yeah Right does exist

Somewhere canonically in there. Yeah They never brought um, I'm over into those into those games though. Did they the other ninja? You mean hi, I'll take yes well Hayate is Kasumi's brother, which means he's also Ayane's brother And Ayane's brother. And Ayane is in Ninja Gaiden. So it could. So he's somewhere.

OK. He's the Hayabusa village's other male ninja. Because I always thought Ain was cool. Yeah. When they changed him to Hayate, I'm like, I actually much prefer the I like I'm way better That's why I still call him mine because I'm like yeah, then the ninja one But you know the fucking fool the the big hits yeah, I was sick Exactly exactly that and then there's also and I made this mistake in ninja guide, and you also find Ryu Hayabusa's dad

Joe Hayabusa's dad, Joe Hayabusa. From the old series. No, that's what I thought. No, Joe is... it's always been Ryu Hayabusa and Joe has always been his dad. Joe Hayabusa is a reference to Joe Musashi the main character of shinobi. Oh Old Genesis He had a dog. Yeah, and then big scarf later Wow That's a tie-in. That's crazy, but it's not like officially. It's just it's just it's just like okay There's a lot of ninjas running around named Joe. Yeah, and it's not J. Oh It's J. Oh eat. J. around named Joe. Yeah, okay. And it's not J-O. It's J-O-E. J-O-E. Like an American.

Yeah, that's interesting. I wonder if it's a, but that- Like Danny Hayabusa or some shit. But that sounds like a one-sided reference, right? Cause Shinobi came back out, relaunched itself with the super long scarf and then kind of went its own way. And I will say that like stylistically, Shinobi is like, that's wallpaper shit, you know? Yeah. It's rad as hell with the big red scarf And I will say that stylistically,

Shinobi is like, that's wallpaper shit. It's rad as hell with the big red scarf like you're flailing along the wall when you're running shit like that. Interesting. That being said, I have to say Ninja Gaiden, the modern Ninja Gaiden, is one of the best 3D-ifications of an ancient NES game.

Because when you think about original Ninja Gaiden on the nest You're not styling. It's fucking hard, but you're surviving, but it's bullshit hard because the screen scroll enemy really fucking spawn shit What man yeah Ninja Gaiden and Ninja Gaiden 2 when enemies are firing? Exploding rockets and kunai from off screen. You know that thing most action games do, where enemies that are fully out of camera view become less aggressive? And or audio cue.

Yeah, not here. Okay. Fucking fight and kill your ass off because they are coming at you. Important question, how good is the camera? It's a 360 game at its core. Is there a lock on? Soft? No, no. No, Ninja Gaiden doesn't use a lock on.

Fixed angles. Yeah, it uses fixed angles and you kind of home in on any. If you're aiming at a guy with the analog stick, you're hit them like don't worry about it. It's so so frustration abound because the camera will kill you the camera is not It's It's not the best if you're gonna have an enemy that silently shoot shit up my ass from oh Silent nothing in that game is silent. Nothing in that game is silent. Okay.

But just give me a camera that won't murder me and I'll find a way. You know in games when you get too close to the wall and the wall becomes transparent so you can see your character? What if in Ninja Gaiden we made that transparent circle around your character literally the size of just your character? So you can see your character but you can't see anything else that the wall is blocking. Perfect. Awesome.

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You know what's really stupid? The meme of those two guys playing Warhammer instead of poker has like completely replaced the whole fucking movie in my head. Because that is the sickest shit ever. Wah, Mr. Bond. Mads and Daniel going at it. Hell yeah. Okay. So yeah and Daniel going at it. Hell yeah. So yeah, we've touched on already, Ninja Gaiden 4 has been announced, Platinum Games is working

on it alongside Team Ninja. And yeah, I guess just Ninja Gaiden news out of nowhere, right? By the way, that's two years that Microsoft has shadow dropped an action game in their January showcase. I mean, shit, sick. The shadow drop of Ninja Gaiden 2 Black to everything, let's see, did they drop a date for Ninja Gaiden 4 as well? Supposedly this year.

Okay. No date. New protagonist as well? It's supposedly this year. Okay. No date. New protagonist as well. So, I guess we're entering a Apollo Justice arc. No, man. It's the Nero arc because you're going to fucking fight Ryu Hayabusa in that game for sure. And we've already had a game which you fought Ryu Hayabusa in and in that that game, you just straight up lost. Super hard. Because why would Yaiba?

Yeah, you were a bitch ass Yaiba. So that's fun. I always appreciate that. Cool. They also announced the... Where we go? So there we go. The release for Doom Dark Ages is going to be May 15th. That's way sooner than I thought.

So that Microsoft showcase, every single game on that entire thing, I looked at it and I'm like, oh, I'm going to stream that. I'm going to stream all four games that they showed. They all look really good. When that Doom trailer first popped up in the show, I kind of was like, okay, yeah, well, that's a cool new Doom thing coming and we'll think about that some year or two from now or so.

Shit's coming in two, three months. Yeah. Dope. I really hope that the big blade shield is like Looks cool an essential part of the kit, you know I hope I hope that you have to switch back to it constantly because it looks really really cool. Yeah Doom Dark Ages we got an update Claire obscure expedition 33 is coming out even before that is in in April

33 is coming out even before that is in in April On the 24th looks great. That looking looks great looks fucking cool very very excited to see what that's gonna be like and I Believe as well. We got a drop that it's gonna be 50 bucks. It's 50 bucks. It's going to be at a reduced price as well. Extremely respectable, very commendable, very cool. Awesome looking game. Yeah, go take a peek if you haven't already.

If you have any part of you that is afraid of, well, not just mimes or clowns, but France as a whole. Be warned, it's the Frenchest shit you've ever seen. We saw a quick trademark for Skies of Arcadia, Eternal Arcadia by Sega Japan. By the way, before we move off of those Microsoft games, South of Midnight, is that the Bayou game? Because that was also shown there and it looks great. South of Midnight. And the other thing that I need to genuinely, one of the weirdest takeaways from that Xbox

show was this was right after we talked about Corpo math and how Sony threw away its entire first party lineup. And then at the end of this Xbox thing, it's like, Oh, I'm really happy for PlayStation owners that they will be able to play every single one of these Xbox games on their PlayStation over the next six months. Yes, so alongside this Phil Spencer basically did an interview where people were asking about like their views on multi-platform and he's basically like yeah we are going at it differently. Everything can be on whatever. We're not going to be doing lockdown exclusivity on our titles going forward. I feel like we've seen a couple other stories like this at the beginning of the last generation

as well of just kind of like, hey, we want to push towards a more platform agnostic future, but I don't think Sony or Nintendo will ever right doesn't work when your other two competitors are like Thanks for the games idiot. I mean one things for sure right one thing that has happened that let's kind of I guess unexpected Is that PC has become a neutral ground? Yeah, you can even play Nintendo games on PC has become neutral territory and everyone is pretty much like, okay, they're not a threat and in fact PC can be a supplemental or it can be a marketing thing in some of the way that Sony uses it. But yeah, as far as

Xbox is concerned, they're like, yeah, we don't want to do temporary exclusivity with our titles. Because that's why we got that Game Pass. I don't know if we ever covered it, but there was that data that came out that if your game is on Game Pass, you're going to see an 80% reduced rate of direct sales. And the math on it was I saw some interviews with Indies where they're like, we try and get on Game Pass and if we can't get the confirmation that we're going to be on Game Pass, we don't bother making it for the Xbox at all. Interesting.

Because people will go, is it on Game Pass? Nope. Correct me if I'm wrong though, but Game Pass also functions like PlayStation Plus in that they pre-purchase a number of copies. That's why if you're going to put your game out on the Xbox, you've got to get it on Game Pass. Yeah. To guarantee a return Game Pass. Yeah. So a Game Pass...

To guarantee a return on investment. Exactly. So a Game Pass play of a game is not a lost sale per se. So here's the thing. That attitude is applying to all games on the Xbox platform and not just the Game Pass games. Because remember the Race to Zero on the App Store? They've done that with the Xbox,

which is now the Race to I should already own it by default. What do you mean I have to buy it? Like people who have Game Pass don't really buy non-Game Pass games. Right, right, right, yeah. And in the case of, well, I mean, at least the way, you know, when we're looking at the way, whatchamacallit, Epic Games Store was handling exclusives, right? They were also going out to indies that were, they had no shipping plan beyond just like,

I guess, Steam or so and being like, yo, hey, Hades, hey, Darkest Dungeon, whoever, how about you put that shit over here for that period of time or whatever. And then we will straight up give you more sales or we'll buy copies at a set rate. We'll just give you money. We'll just give money into your pocket. That are higher than you potentially would have made

in the discovery phase of your game early on. So yeah, we would have to obviously, I think when SNK came out and started talking about it more transparently, people were able to figure out a little bit more about how those Game Pass, not Game Pass, how those EGS exclusive deals worked. But with Game Pass here, yeah, I don't know that it's necessarily a case of like, oh,

you're fucked otherwise. But if you're a game that's on Xbox but it's not on Game Pass and you're seeing a reduction, that's brutal. I don't have the numbers to support this. I just have my gut. I believe the reason why Microsoft is pushing for all these games to come out on other platforms now is because I bet you anything,

they're making more money off of their games coming out on the PlayStation than they are of those games coming out on the Xbox. I could absolutely see that with retention rates and whatever being as they are. Yeah, availability, well that's the thing though, right? As a whole, it's the same thing we're yelling to fucking vanilla ware about.

It's like availability helps. You want people to play your game, right? Atlas, please put your shit on PC, you're finally doing it, okay cool. You're trying to move consoles as a hardware manufacturer, but at a certain point when the generation shakes out the way it is, and you know, there's a, like at Christmas,

you're gonna see your consoles move off the shelf at certain rates, and maybe every once in a while with a major new game that is a huge seller, then sure. But for the most part, the generation's shaken out the way it has. I think the best thing, Microsoft's perspective being like, let's sell software to make money here, makes perfect sense because what's going to convince people to go back and grab a current gen system, you know? I think, remember Phil talking about how the generation they lost was the most important

one ever because people built up the digital library. The digital library, yeah. I think Game Pass is a try away around that, but I think they've really fucked it even harder because if I own Microsoft product Doom the Dark ages and Microsoft product Indiana Jones and the great circle and Microsoft product the Master Chief collection on my Sony PlayStation What fucking incentive do I ever have to buy the sequels to those games on? The Xbox going forward. Yeah rather than just keep it on the PlayStation Unless you're someone who had the Xbox from the beginning of the generation to begin with.

Brian Smith Yeah. Like, oh, my whole library of Microsoft games is on the Sony. Why would I buy the Microsoft? It's fucking ridiculous. Mad Fientist- And also, again, if you're an indie or if you're a smaller developer that has no guarantees on your release and you're getting a choice between like, okay, which one of these shops is offering to buy a certain amount of copies upfront? That shit's positive. That's good. In any case, I think it makes sense why Phil wants it to go that way. I just don't think anyone else is going to fucking buy it. I think it's crazy that they are,

like I have heard a bunch of shit, they are absolutely dedicated to putting out another box. And I think that's crazy. I think that's fucking nuts. I mean, is there some shit that nobody else could possibly have that's like, you know, like if it's a game pass box effectively.

So it's supposed to be a game pass box and it's supposed to be the most powerful con like it's supposed to be the biggest jump in, in, in like tech, which means it's probably going to be like a thousand dollars. It's probably going to be like a pre-built PC. And I'm just like, man, who is that for? Who is that for? I've been hearing it's going to be called the Xbox Prime. That's like literally like, yeah, okay.

All right. I mean if the thing comes baked in with an Elgato, I wouldn't be surprised at this point. Now that, now we're talking. Okay. I would not be surprised. Interesting. Okay. Well, at the same time though, like Nintendo Switch 2, they're not exactly like stepping

big for second place there. So they just announced that there's going to be a try a Switch 2 event that you can sign up for. And it seems everyone, no matter who you are, has to manually take a shot at the lottery. And to quote one Gene Park, Jeff Keeley failed to get in to the Nintendo Switch tryout, Switch 2 tryout event. Nintendo wouldn't care if you had the mandate of heaven. Oh, mandate of heaven. Mandate of heaven's getting in there. I love it. Oh man. Yeah, Jeff Keeley posted his denial.

Other people in the industry have been like, yep, no Switch 2 for me. I have never tied my expectations of a product more strongly to a single feature. I am tying them to the Switch 2's backwards compatibility. I have literally never been more obsessed with how much I'm going to care based off of the performance of one single feature. We just talked about the digital library importance a second ago. I've had this discussion with you

I've had it with a couple others as well about sit around with Reggie and min and stuff I'm just kind of like I'm really hoping that when they say some titles they don't mean select titles and not 99% or that would be god-awful right? I hope it's not some e-shop shit I hope it's not some will sell what you'll listen You'll take what we choose to sell to you shit. You show me a fucking demo video of Switch titles coming to Nintendo switch 2 and show me a 30 FPS video of age of calamity

And I will buy for Nintendo switch 2 Old not even joking. I'm not even joking. Old games running properly. Yeah. We'll find out at the launch event where they'll have Mario Kart confirmed. Yeah. Other things not confirmed, but we have some guesses. Skong. Hmm. No. No Skong.

No Skong. Anyway, Sega trademarked Skies of Arcadia, Eternal Arcadia. That's good. That's dope as hell. People like that game. Good shit. That's a franchise that should exist. Fun blue skies.

Man, Sega's cookin' man. Cooled character designs, vice cutlass fury. Bring that shit back. We'll see how it goes. If that new Jet Set Radio is completely forgettable with a sort of mid soundtrack, I'm going to die inside. If it's completely forgettable, if it's completely forgettable but the soundtrack is amazing, that's fine. I can live.

That's fine. Yeah. I can live. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Only other bit there

Yeah, I know that we touched on it before but you were excited about the prospect of the darkest dungeon 2 Not the same gameplay, but the different gameplay. That's the more that's the one you wanted. Yeah, that's coming or might be out right now Yes out right now Kingdoms has launched and It's a completely different style of game where you have a map that you move alongside and there are enemies and race types that take over and can destroy different parts. You have to save a network of safe haven inns that you can go to for your resources and overall, yeah, you're traveling and moving between these pieces

that are moving you know, moving with turns and quest lines and a bunch of new factions and shit like that as well. So it's the game that they should have made. Like I said, I'm like, I'm fine with the overall two. We can't do this talk again. It's the same one every time. Like, it's just, I wanted wanted to say it's just the car travel Yeah, but either way kingdoms. Yeah is out and

there's a bunch of new shit as of yes yesterday, so go check that out and Open beta for a city of the wharves February 20th Everybody can try it out. There will be eight characters, probably the ones we've seen announced so far, minus the guests. Hey, everybody. Hey, guess what? We're going to find out a lot about City of the Wharves on February 21st when people crack

that motherfucker open and data mine the absolute shit out of it. Yeah. people crack that motherfucker open and data mine the absolute shit out of it. Yeah, but maybe they're doing like Marvel rivals and putting out fake data mining data. That's great. That's great. I was leaks. I was looking at my phone, you know, over the weekend catching people popping off over like, oh shit, like rogue is coming to rivals and she's going to have abilities to like steal from the opponent's team. And here comes Jubilee and there's a bunch of X-Men and shit. And it's like, nah, paste pot Pete is not coming actually. It seems like there are fake leaks that they've put out so that certain people with certain access to that information, they

could keep track of who would leak it. And then there's a real leak list that's based on datamined shit that we know that includes like Blade and Doom, Doctor Doom and shit like that, right? But the X-Men list that has been going around this weekend is pure bait. I love it. This is great. Smart. Smart. Smart. And you know what? Like, it's one list of like

five, six characters or another, of which wait five, six months and then there will be on to the next. Like, there's going to be so many characters coming to this that it's almost like, yeah, just give it a second. It's fine. Yeah, they'll all get in there. Everyone you could ever care about. Like, if the X-Men aren't coming now, they're coming. Like, they're just, it'll be wild this time next year. I feel like the pace are going. Okay, so push back, pop up.

Did I get a wrong update about this story? Did I get a wrong update that some of that, some of those are real? The last arguing I saw about that were that this list of characters, there's a dev that posted the list of characters that are confirmed fake and that another list was confirmed real. Someone in chat says the fake leak thing was in itself fake and the fake leaks were actually real leaks.

Got it. Okay. So as of the time that we're talking and recording this podcast It is a confusing mess of a story and I don't know what's real or fake Let's just wait for the thing and fantastic torch man and you five you can fight you ten over there and then you can let Me know how that pops up, but it seems like this is a confusing story right now I don't know which is real and which is fake. You know what's really funny about streaming Marvel Rivals is that you're not paying super close attention and then you forget the name of a Marvel character and then just ballpark it and the new name is always really funny because it's always terrible. I couldn't remember the name of the... I want to call him the flaming torch why

What's his fucking name I can't even think of it right now Johnny flavor He's burning hot! The human torch? The human torch, yes, see exactly. Yes. See, this is exactly what I mean. I spent like a good five minutes streaming at once and I legitimately could not remember Iron Man's name at all and kept getting confused and calling him Tony man Yeah, yep, no great perfect say less

Anyway Keep it keep your eyes out for for that That's fine. Let's take some letters. Oh, before we do that, the crypto, sorry, not the crypto, the AI market crashed because of China and Nvidia is shitting their pants, which is really funny. I believe $600 billion down on the market cap is 20%. That's Nvidia by themselves. That's not even all the other

shitheads. I saw someone say that this is the largest loss of a company in American history. Yeah, so I remember talking to somebody, I was like, yeah, AI seems like a massive scam because it's all speculative investment dollars. And then a single article comes out that says China can do the same thing but cheapy and everyone loses literally a trillion dollars. It's like, okay, yeah, no, it's a fucking scam. It's a fucking scam. So the thing that we've been laughing at about how everyone has just been using these two letters to get a bunch of investors to show up.

Yeah, now the investors have noticed that they've actually wasted their money. Damn. But what's going to happen to GameShark AI? I don't know, man. I don't know. The future of GameShark was coming. Was it? No, I'm sorry.

AI shark, I believe. It's actually super weird because you had this extremely expensive product that wasn't good for anything and didn't make any money, But the idea is that it might make money one day, cause an investor run up like crazy because well, if we own the thing that doesn't make any money completely as a monopoly, then later when we do figure out how to make money, we'll make a lot of money. And then China says, actually, it's actually really cheap to make the thing that doesn't make any money. So all and also it won't be a monopoly. So investing in the thing that doesn't make any money. And also, it won't be a monopoly.

So investing in the thing that doesn't make any money before it makes any money is actually stupid as shit. Fucking idiots. I think now that the word AI is no longer attracting people simply based on its inclusion in a title, We should throw another, we should throw something else out there. We should start having companies like, how about Goon Shark? How about we start, let's start raising money around- Goon Shark was the first banner character for Zendla Zone Zero actually.

Okay. Okay. Now we're talking. You see, right? I think we start throwing the word goon around and we start just getting some groundswell, see who wants to invest. Wall Street's going to follow. Yeah. No, you bring it to beloved brands. You bring it to things. How can Ubi capitalize on this new gooning technology? Oh, yeah.

So, hey guys guys you know that We didn't cover it in the news, but it would be soft shut down one of their studios in England mm-hmm Yep, I have a sneaking suspicion That we'll be seeing more of that in the next two years mm-hmm could that be? What sorry my eyes are really watery because of the cold. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Always, always wonderful when a series of extremely predictable, stupid, fucking head ass decisions result in a bunch of people being unemployed. Great. They goonsharking over there. Goonshark. That's the way out. result in a bunch of people being unemployed. Great.

They goonsharking over there. Goonshark. That's the way, that's the way out. Gooners Creek. I think they may have goonsharked a little too close to the sun at Ubisoft actually. Yeah. Head on down to your local Goon Eleven. You know? Never forget.

Use your Goon Pass to get a Goon Smoothie. No. Smoothie. No, no, no, no. I have guided us over here. And this is where we're staying. If you want to send in a letter, go tolessuperpizdemail.gmail.com We're staying over here What do you have for email? Hold on I'm still sandbagging All right Let's take one over here so Mitch says hey fellas last week you talked about how YouTube has trash rules for adult content I'm sure it's implied

I feel like I should inform you of the absolute hypocrisy they employ even if it's implied. I feel like I should inform you of the absolute hypocrisy they employ. Part of the punishment for making sure I don't get targeted ads is I get completely random ads and some of them are fucking insane. The several I have seen involve a woman talking about this one weird trick you can do with salt to fix your broken dick. I have heard and seen this exact ad. I know what you're talking about. Other, others using euphemisms for the word penis that are extremely graphic to the point where I can pretty much guarantee that if you recorded it and posted the video yourself

to your own channel, it would be blocked. Yeah, but they're paying money. Yeah, one of the lines was, after my husband started drinking salt water, his big throbbing tool had be dripping wet all night. Enjoy your bullshit video takedowns from the Corporal Overlords and remember that they're not human." Yeah, so I-

Also, don't drink saline. So I've seen this literal video and it is an AI generated script with an AI generated person talking with an AI generated video of a of like a person's head snapping from line to line going through like how some salt solution shit is gonna pork you up real hard and don't drink salt water yeah and it's like you're seeing this as an ad running all over YouTube and in the meantime if you uploaded that video directly you would absolutely get your shit flagged for it, at least marked yellow minimum. Right?

That's the platform it's on. It's fucking, oh boy is it frustrating. Hypocritical fucks. And they're never as good as like the insane Chinese mobile game Facebook ads. Oh, I mean those are just- Those things are legendary. They're incredible Yeah, I mean the ones were like it's suddenly like a dating sim, but of like the three kingdoms and yeah Yeah, yeah, and it's like throw out into the street or impregnate are the two options

Yeah, I mean I've gone off enough about fucking homescapes or plants is whatever Where it's like I can't tell if this is a gardening game or a game about Your dad getting crushed in this spike cage. Yes. Yes it is or it's a large realistic Zombies are invading from over the hill kind of game All right, and Dee says, Hey Castle and Super Beast, long time listener, I always hear games getting praised for amazing OSTs, stories, characters, worlds, et cetera.

I'll parrot and praise and talk about that when speaking to others. But when I actually play a game, I end up not appreciating any of it. I do have decent media literacy. It just never becomes something I exercise in games. My interest is single minded and it feels almost hypocritical to speak positive of games like say Disco Elysium. If I ever play it, I've owned it for years. What I end up, all I ever end up wanting to do in games is make a build and have combat, especially crunchy

CRPG type builds. If there's no build and no combat, no play. I've played games like Pathfinder, Baldur's Gate 3, New Vegas, Pillars, etc. just to make my build and fight things with it. The story is an enjoyable fluff that happens in the process of exercising my build. When my build is complete, I race to finish the game before I get bored or drop it. I'll spoil a lot of the game's story or mechanics while figuring out the potential gear, skills, party members I can use for the build, how to get them, and it doesn't

really bother me to do so. Then I'll say, that game had an amazing story when I beat it. No punchline, just wanted to share that because it's probably weird. Bro, just play Warhammer. Like just skip all the steps that you're currently playing and just play Warhammer. I mean, I'm, you know, popular or unpopular opinion here, but like play with your toys however you want. Yeah, obviously. Who cares? No one's going to come like, yeah, it's your thing. You bought it, but you play. Play with your figures. Do what you want to do. No one cares. If you're enjoying that way of doing things, I find it insane, but who cares?

Do it. I mean, the main thing is that a lot of the games that he describes as the ones that he's running these builds in are extraordinarily story focused. So you would have probably, genuinely have a lot of fun doing just tabletop shit because you can just not interact with that shit if you don't give a fuck about it. But I guess the fun of making a build in a big Possible list of ways to do it is to watch the the domino effects all crash into each other and do cool things right like you don't get that if you just If you just tabletop it as much, you know, but yeah, that's It's it's odd, but it's fine. You know,? If a story just doesn't generally ever compel you, you know, then... not hurting anybody.

Now if you're playing online with other people, you know, well that's another case. Well actually, you're probably better at being an online partner with people because... It depends. ...you're exclusively focused on the synergy and like build compatibility. So the thing is- There's a genre of MMO player that plays MMOs and will do like all the end game content and then you'll talk to them and discover

they don't know literally a single detail about the game setting at all. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's totally baffling. It's super fucking weird, but I mean, that's up to them. Well, this reminds me a lot of when Street Fighter IV dropped and it was like, there was a, I remember a lot of, there was arcade dudes that were just kinda like,

wait, so like, Goken, like, isn't Akuma Ryu's dad like sorry like what you know Like there's just a whole lot of like what's what there, you know, and you're like, I don't know These are the games I popped quarters in and then I did fucking psycho crushers I don't give I don't know or give a fuck who or what or where you know, it's like Akuma Sakura's the little sister Right, you know, it's like yeah might as well be you just see him You know, it's like, yeah, might as well be. You just see it and assume so. It's like, yeah, okay, cool. So like nobody knew or give a shit what Street Fighter Story was.

I genuinely think one of the appeals from software games to a lot of people is that there is no explicit story. Like the complaint of like, oh, these games don't have like a dedicated plot and through fair. How fuck is VATI paying his mortgage? No, no, I there is not it. So when you're playing a from software game, if you want a story you can go dig it out Yes, but if you don't give a shit it is not overt go castle fight boss Except for like a sec euro

Right where they barely they push it a bit. They push it more except for like a Sekiro, right? Where they push it a bit, they push it more. And then of course, you know, like Armored Core and stuff. Yeah, but like, I mean, if you wanna play Dark Souls 3, like it's Castlevania 1, you can. But I guess it's the difference between lore and, you know, like, active story, right? Yeah, like Doom has a codex lore that you're getting

Yeah, but 90% of it is all just like learning about the past and then 90% of it is the doom slayer was so cool Oh my god, can you believe it and in terms of active moment to moment shit? It's like blow that up shoot that fucker. You know he's going off. Hey fuck him You know Cool, yeah, okay like from software games are like the fantasy equivalent of wow that up, shoot that fucker. Yo, he's going off? Hey, fuck him. Cool. Yeah. Okay. From software games are like the fantasy equivalent of wow, cool robot to most people. Wow, cool devil man. But war bad is actually there, but you got to go find it on the ground. Entropy inevitable? What's an entropy? I fought that guy because he had a wolf sword.

Or go find the shard in the middle of the mission table You know yeah, yeah, absolutely. So hey look in conclusion there D we don't pay your sub yeah, man All right, take it easy. Yeah, we're good one everybody bye Bye. Bye.