Castle Super Beast - CSB314: No Way Street Fighter Alpha Generations

Episode Date: April 4, 2025

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["Sailor Moon Theme"] Um, what's slow week, huh? Oh, I don't know if we're gonna find enough shit to talk about on the podcast. Well, let's let's start here. Hey, boosts. We need to put a shutdown on real human beings and fighting games until we can figure out what the fuck is going on. We need to just put a moratorium on the entire process of human beings in fighting games until we can assess the situation and verify what the fuck is happening.

I think that's where we can start. The past couple of days, you and Punch Mom and Reggie came over and hung out and you stayed the night and you were a wonderful guest and I was so glad to have you and it was very, very endearing. Thank you for hosting. All three of you spend like a good portion of your time trying to be the first one to endear yourself to that fucked up little dog. And he turned around on all of you because he was scared and he loved you all. That was very sweet. But it is a great thing to start with here in Fighting Games and real people because that was the first thing you started to talk about coming into the house. You did

a little dance. I sure did. Do you remember the lyrics to the dance? They put a rapist in Mark of the Wolves Some something to that effect very similar to that. That was kind of how that went. Yeah It's not like in the door. Hey Paige. Hey, baby. Hey dog. Hey cat. Ah shit Fucking what the fuck yeah um I think it was something along the lines of They put a rapist in mark of the wolves

Something like that something like that quite the the tune to it. Yep. That's what they did. That's what allegedly allegedly I think um Yep, that's what they did. That's what allegedly allegedly I think Well, look, I don't think it's great. Hmm. Okay. It's not great when I don't know who the second person that got announced was and I have to Google Uh the name and then I also i'm like should I press spacebar and type allegations just in case? You know So I think I think I can actually boil down the Ronaldo soccer man alleged probable must be real rapist

Real human being being put into a fighting game that we were interested in. I can break this whole controversy down into a single interaction I had in chat talking about this. I think it was yesterday, but it might have been day four. Where he kicks the soccer ball really good. This is a truth that is unmitigated, that everybody knows he kicked the soccer ball really good. This is a truth that is unmitigated, that everybody knows he kicked the soccer ball really good. One of the most famous human beings on planet Earth. Yeah, so I mentioned the other day that we had discussed and how you walked in going,

oh my God, I can't believe they put a rapist in Mark of the Wolves. Allegedly. And my chat went, huh, What? And then before I could even get into it, someone went, oh yeah, Ronaldo. Period. Yeah, yeah. Which people are hearing this like the whole discussion. Yeah. And I guess folks are similarly confused as were myself and Reggie upon seeing that, because we see that and you go, you know, Saudi Arabia. Yes, okay, all right, we're doing the

whole bit. And, you know, we like for a while, I remember when it was kind of like, okay, so, you know, they say that their creative decisions are not are still going to be in the hands of the people that are making the things and nothing's going to get handed down on an edict. And that you're like, well, that sure seems like it when he's got a contract with them and his likeness and team and everything are now associated. And then, you know, well, this current confusion with this new character that just got announced an hour ago aside. Oh, I didn't even know there was one.

Oh, okay. Because there's a second one. But the first one was just like, that's confusing and goofy, but okay, whatever. I guess that's what they're doing. And you know, soccer, the humongous football player will get eyeballs on the game. So that's the move. That's the play that they're making. And then immediately a message came in going,

yeah, shame about those allegations though. And it's like, what? Alleg, oh no. And so like, hey, my favorite part about this is that I was like, you know what? I'm talking about this. I should double check just to make sure. And I type in the guy's name and allegations. And not only do I get the first batch of allegations, I get the second court case about the hush money he paid to make the first court case go away. Yeah. I saw someone-

And I'm like, oh wow. Yeah, I saw someone. Oh, wow. Wow. So I saw a screenshot of like, hey, his win quote just dropped. And it was the quote of the thing he said to his lawyer that then was posted in the story about what he did. How did that get out? And that was dropped and it was like, Jesus fucking Christ. So that doesn't sound great. That doesn't sound great at all.

That sounds pretty bad. I think I agree that we should maybe and not put Hey, let's just stop. Um, this is a stance that I've taken for a long time. If you don't know somebody in your personal life well, you should just not look up to them ever. I mean, that's the most zoomed out take you can have. That is my zoomed out take. That's the most zoomed out take you can have and that's fine. I want to grow up to be a cool football player like OJ Simpson

Hold on hold on I saw the you saw the naked gun trailer. Yeah, where they just go Fuck me. I watched that naked guy. Okay. I watched the naked gun to a sidebar I watched the naked gun trailer and I was like, okay. I see the, I see the angle here. Liam Neeson's pretty funny. Sure. That's fine. And the last two seconds of that thing got me and went, oh, the last two seconds actually got me laughing. Um, so, so well played to the, the 2025 teaser for the new naked gun movie. Yeah, I don't think you should, I think maybe we should not put real people in. the 2025 teaser for the new Naked Gun movie. Yeah, I don't think you should. I think maybe we should not put real people in.

Okay, okay. But yeah, I was gonna say, if we could just zoom in a little bit and just pare it down to something much more simple, much more easy at that point, and at the very least just like, you know, if there's no way to avoid this, can we do some background checks?

Can we figure out what the fuck's going on? Can we just, you know, can we, can we? That wouldn't do anything because everybody knew. Yes, of course. Everybody knew. No, the people who are super down for it are, in fact, they've got their own shit going on clearly, right? I foresee a very interesting cultural dialogue in the FGC about this character.

And when I was talking to my chat about it, I'm like, if you want a preview of the back and forth that's going to happen around City of the Wolves and competition and the character and whatnot, just travel back in time a little bit and go read any argument or in-person discussion about whether or not you should let infiltration compete at your tournament. Right. And the back and forth of, yo, fuck that guy versus, yeah, I don't care. I just want good fight game. Who gives a shit?

Yeah. And of course, you know, the entire discussion like about slow ownership over SNK for that we've been talking about for a while ago as well. And then there's events that happen over there and people go over and then like some folks are like I'm not comfortable With that, you know, and it's it's becoming more and more Unavoidable I'd say at every turn. Oh Absolutely, I feel like also at the same time back then there was the Percentage ownership thing that they had, and then now that number

has increased across all video game companies, any games that you like. There's an ownership number that is starting at 10% up to 40, up to, in some cases, way above that with ownership over or shares that they've bought and stuff. So it's like, it's just everywhere, right? On a sidebar. But with this, I just remember like, we're like, okay, like that's nuts. And then you're like, oh, the way things have been going, there's also this like distinct possibility that because balancing stuff has been insane at first first and then getting toned down afterwards because of the second beta there's a there's a decent chance that he might also be really high tier which means you might see a top eight that has a whole lot of run all toes in it potentially I don't know if that's gonna happen but like the the the cool thing

for SMK to do would be to make him really bad on purpose. I mean, that would be interesting. That would be like, well, we put him in. We didn't want to. We put him in. So there's a couple of my minds racing because I can't keep, I'm losing track of all these like logs here and lines. But one was catching wind that, or hearsay that, yeah, there's definitely the decision for him to be in there as well

as what's going on now is coming from above Oda's head. So it's coming from above the ocean. And it's that's that's definitely a no brainer. There's the God, what was the other thing? Oh, the fact that it's baseline roster means that if somebody wanted to say like, I go like, well, I'm not going to buy that DLC or I don't want that. I don't want them on the roster. Whatever it's included in, which also makes sense because you're not trying to the people, the world that you're trying to appeal to with a giant football player is going to not really be about spending extra money for the LC necessarily. You're going to want to just have that in the baseline roster to advertise

the game anyway. Um, plus the shit this included season pass. So my God, I just saw him. Uh, okay. So, so yes, Mr. President, a second real human being has hit City of the Wolves. I repeat, a second real person has hit the roster of Garou. Oh, that's a real person? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He looks terrible. Oh my God. So there's two trailers. There's the reveal one like last time, and then there's the gameplay

footage and it's Salvatore Garacci, a DJ. And yeah, nobody really can figure it out. About an hour ago, they just dropped it and it's like, hey, Salvatore Garacci is in the game and is going to be a fully playable character and everything. I think two weeks ago, they announced some collaborative artists they're working with and he was one of them. But then from there to playable character, I'm like, I don't know how or why, but here we are. The first thing that would strike my mind again is something like this is like, if you're working with a DJ, wouldn't you immediately go like, let's make a big stage that's taking

place at a concert that he's holding and put some of his music in the game and have it be like, oh, every time you load in that stage, a setlist will play and you'll have him in the background playing the music and reacting to the fights. And the whole thing is just an elaborate- Oh, he performs regularly in Saudi Arabia and he's a friend of the Royal Family. Yeah. So- He's literally just their buddy. So that's the bit, right? You're like, you can just- That's so fucking funny. Oh man. Could have been that way, you know, but that's the bit, right? You're like, you can just, that's so fucking funny.

Oh man. Could have been that way, you know, but that's not the way it's going. Um, whoa. Wow. So, uh, yeah, that, that I've never seen, you know, cause you'll, you'll say like, oh, you know, put your, put your foot on the scale, you know, like is the boss, you know, messing with it? And like, this is like, this is like, yeah, my, my friend's little brother wants to be in the fighting tournament. And make sure he wins. On unavoidable. So it seems, um, this is crazy. And so the, and the nuts. So part, so you said something last time too, which is like our one during the first beta whereas like, you know, if if the game was bad, while the net play was bad and matchmaking was bad, then it'd be easy to just kind of like write it

off. So the second beta came out and it dropped while we were out there. And hey, guess what the game is amazing. The game plays super tight. The first day of matchmaking was a bit rough and then they switched the switch in the first couple hours and then matchmaking got good. And then they included the training mode, they included versus offline and they included TZOC as well. And yeah, it's like, I mean, I'm going to quote Reggie here. He's like, this is the most interesting defensive game that's been released in the last 20 years in fighting games. It's doing a whole lot and it's really well thought out as a game that feels like an old

school fighter, but still has newer mechanics in it. It has a lot for you. It's great. It has a lot for you on defense and it has a lot for you on offense. And it's very rewarding to go all in on these moves linking into each other and such versus just defending or hyper defense is this other type of thing. There's so much going on It's really really sick good defense with rinaldo on the roster. Wop wop There you go. Um

And and so that that's that's the thing that you get is like They really thought about it and it's being designed as a proper like GARO 2 you know it's not half-assed it just seems like there's going to be a like section of it that you're like this is the actual game and then there's this layer on top of that. The end of that discussion is like we had this long and back and forth. It's like, yeah, tons of people don't care about this shit at all. Any of it. Any of it at all. And like

our audience is like, I would say our audience is like, or audiences, depending on how you want to split it, it's like significantly more progressive than the internet at large. For sure. So we're going to run into, I just saw it scroll by, a lot of people who are going to let, I am not touching this game with a 10 foot pole. And it's never been easier to go, yeah, okay. I get it, of course. Yeah, absolutely. But for sure, and I would say too that you later, there's a huge difference

in vibes from just like, okay, there's the trailer that gets released, you can go see feedback on that. There's, you know, any other FGC content creator, this channel, and then the feedback, and then the amount of discussing that happens there. And then with us, it's much higher concentrated in that regard, you know? Absolutely. In no small part due to the fact that like that I think we openly talk about this shit. We have pretty candid conversations over the years about a lot of it. Folks are pretty used to that and people that are much more, I guess, aware of or in tuned

with and concerned about things like that are going to be around. To just echo your statement, yeah, when folks are like, yeah, I'm out, I'm like So I think I, to just echo your statement. Yeah. When folks are like, yeah, I'm out. I'm like, I, what am I supposed to say? Like, uh-huh. I get it. Somebody made a great point going by where it's like, there's a subtype of person who is out now that the DJ is in, but not when the soccer player is in. And that is a highly specified cross-section of taste that needs to be studied. Listen, I can abide a lot of things, but that new character looks bad. So I did see it.

I did see some of that too. I did see some of that. Yeah, man. You know, I think you're not going to see me trying to change anyone's opinion on that. Certainly. Oh, I've never, I've never wanted to change someone's opinion less talking about a game. That being and, and the wild part that is like, yo, we even got some sets in at your place and Yeah. And they were great. They were incredible. Games great. It feels really fun. It's, it's it's the sequel. I've wanted for 24 years

You know, but I mean listen this episode in general we're gonna be talking about fighting games and Nintendo There's a whole there's a whole lot of that going on. There was um, there was a moment we're talking about Gero and there was a moment when we were talking about Garou and you bully you pulled out. So I had recently pulled out an old arcade stick that you had made me ages ago and you were remarking on its wonderful craftsmanship right and how gorgeous it was and I was talking about like how I'm gonna play games with the boy right and you said to me you don't even know if this kid is

Gonna be into video games right, and I put the stick down and the kid runs over to it and Grabs the stick and starts banging on the buttons and trying to pick the stick off the floor and leave with it It's like nah, man. Nah, let's go off the floor and leave with it. It's like, nah, man. Nah, let's go. As soon as he saw me touch the fucking thing, all of a sudden he's like, ah. So you know what I found out? You know what he was trying to do? He's trying to pull the stick apart. He wants the red ball. Ah, the red, the bet. Yeah. The ball top on it. Okay. Me the day after you guys left, he pointed at it went ball ball ball, ball, and started trying to pull

it off. Yeah, okay. And I was saying, when he put his hands on it, I was like, yo, get that grip proper. Start getting that 360 ready. Awesome. Okay. Oh, also- That's a great first reaction to not never seeing it. I have to thank you extraordinarily. I've told this story before, but me and Paige, when we moved in, there was this wonderful little table built into one of the parts of our kitchen. But it was

so low, like it was built into the floor, it was so low that it's actually hard to sit at because it would like pinch your legs. And it turns all out, all we needed was a helpful big man. We needed a big man. To come and help me lift it. And Wooly, you have now lifted our kitchen table, and our kitchen table is now easy to sit at. There you go.

And we've been so happy about it. Thank you very much. You just needed to. That was really great for being a big man to help me. Look at that. All you needed was a big man. Sometimes you just need a big man around the house. You know?

And yeah. Yeah. What was the ad? Two sturdy dudes or two sturdy? There's a movie company out here You just need a big man around the house, you know? And yeah. Yeah. What was the ad? Two sturdy dudes or two sturdy? There's a moving company out here called Two Burly Men. Two Burly Men. Yeah, they move your stuff and then they fuck you.

Well. It's a, have you seen the ad where they're standing next to each other? I'm pretty sure, I remember a Bear Bara energy ad with yet shirtless Burly men just going sometimes you just need to burly men sometimes you see and it's like what is this? Oh, it's removing Right, okay anyway, so Yeah, so that's that's going on I did make it out to Vancouver and I guess the first thought

I had pulling up to the city was this is Toronto with mountains behind it. Absolutely. Because the condo skyline and then going into it, I'm like, oh yeah, this feels identical to being downtown at Yonge and Dundas or Blur or any of those spots and just being endlessly enveloped in giant construction condos. But the mountains behind them were nice. And getting- I'll tell you what, people around here do not like the description of Toronto plus mountains.

I'm sure they won't, but I'm just just being honest But I will say upon closer inspection of said mountains. I was like, oh those mountains are pretty Very pretty. Yeah So plus plus 200 days of rain a year Yeah, a whole lot of rain actually Like that was the- If you flip a coin, it is more likely to land on rain than any other weather. I did not know that was a thing. And you know what?

That's great. You know what the rain has, Willy? It has sun blocking powers, so I can go outside without fear. Right. Okay. So I mean, yeah, I did, you know, I was like, okay, this is a this is definitely Mountaineer fresh air That's cool. I will I will also say pretty good Asian cuisine It would fucking hope so yeah

Given the given the population population, that is a- That would be fucking crazy. It would be crazy if it wasn't. That would be embarrassing as shit. But it was very legit, as recommended by one Justin Wong. So went out there and yeah, first thing was the Red Bull Kumite. And yeah, first thing was the Red Bull Kumi-Tei. So shout outs to them for the Red Bull Kumi-Tei

Canadian qualifiers. Did some commentary with Justin Wong and Ruflemonger. Had a good time yucking it up. Did some, I'm sure at some point something will pop up, but did some dumb like straight for social media, straight for TikTok. Like quiz type videos and challenges and stuff. So we'll see where those go. Including some, like Justin had some extreme difficulty challenges where we played for a bit. So we'll see how it goes. But it was fun to do some commentary with. And yeah, overall, a pretty hype event. It was a part of the Battle of BC, which is a

god, a BC tournament. And then the winner of that safe who won, a Canadian player, will get flown out to Paris for a chance to enter the Red Bull last chance qualifier to get a spot in the Koumete. So it's this whole gauntlet, but did an incredible job. Shout outs to Safe and Riddles and Zyckles, the other Canadian strong players and Chris CCH who came up from the States as well, a really good Ed. And met, uh, Jordy 2D, a, a Fortnite and Marvel rivals, uh, uh, uh, influencer, uh, shot a couple things, uh, with them as well. And surprise, surprise out of nowhere, one Gerald Lee from Core-A Gaming was- Gerald was there!

Popped over and did a talk for an e-sports conference and it just happened to be happening at the same time So just like that is awesome. Oh shit. There you are. IRL. That's cool Yeah, if only I had the the prescient knowledge I would have been like let me pick your brain about what's going on in Tekken 8. Buffs over nerfs. But we'll get to that in a second. Because I feel like that video is getting... I'm excited because I'm watching.

People are like, you see what's happening with Tekken? I'm like, oh, I talked about it with Wooly. There's a bad patch. What could it be? Overwhelmingly negative on Steam. What the fuck? How bad could this patch be? It Overwhelmingly negative on Steam! What the fuck? How bad could this patch be? It's a bit of a doozy.

And I think also, I think his video's getting dragged, I think a little unfairly because people are taking the worst interpretation of it. But, yeah, well, anyway, we'll get into Tekken later. There's a whole lot going on with fighting games. But the Kumite was cool. And yeah, I mean, obviously, again, thanks for hosting over at your place. You are welcome. You and Punch Mom and Reggie are welcome.

Anytime you're in this neck of the woods, just come on by. There's always a bed ready for y'all. It's quite nice. And yeah, it was cozy. Hey, I'd like to apologize. So of all the people, I did not expect this to happen, but Reggie left his door open. And what happened was, is that Elmo got in there. Oh, yeah. You weren't Elmo kept his ass up for hours because Elmo demands pets. And Reggie was like he was willing to oblige. Yeah. And that was really sweet. And like eventually he like pretended to be asleep until the cat got bored and left. So that's a sweet story.

However, later that day, you touched the cat and then touched your face and then exploded. So that's the thing is, Boosie is at first nervous and then shuffles away and has his butt in your face. But then afterwards, chills on the couch and is totally fine comes like a doll Yeah, so I just sat there and scritched him for a while and he was totally chill But Elmo on the other hand yeah, Reggie was like, oh, yeah sure let him in and then you know you you gave us the heads up that the

Boosie as in little boo Boosie, as in... Little Boosie Man. ...caboose. Little Boosie. Get the f... As in Little Boosie Man. And so, and so letting Elmo into the room is the results of... I think you described it as him going, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh uh, you know, and so that was, that was funny.

Um, but yeah, no, sat on, sat on Elmo's couch, on Elmo's throne for a minute. And so that was funny. But yeah, no, sat on Elmo's couch, on Elmo's throne for a minute. And then I think, yeah, just touching my eye, and then my eye swole the fuck up. And I did- It was crazy! I did not know you were allergic to cats!

So I have a cat allergy, but it has not acted up in a long time. The last time it acted up was at a friend's place who has like three cats and has been living that way for 20 plus years. And it's just been like the dander is in the air when you inhale. And like she had to give me cat pills the whole time and I was like, oh, right. But one is usually quite fine. So we didn't think this would be a problem because Elmo is like a long fluffy cat and they tend to be hypoallergenic. But we forget Elmo is insane and eats chunks of his own fur off his body for fun.

So there's patches on that cat that are just bare, which means there's nothing to stop the dander from leaking onto any particular surface. And I didn't know as well. So when you do the allergy test, you know, they stick you with a bunch and then you see the bumps and you go, oh, these bumps are the ones that are the worst. Therefore you're allergic to that. Yeah. And mine always reacted. But I didn't know that like, I know when, when an allergy is going off, like your nose and your eyes get itchy as a, as a side effect kind of thing. But the idea that like touching

the surface of the eyeball is the like touching the surface of the eyeball is the same as the surface of the skin, is just, I didn't reconnect that that would be a thing. You know? Cause it's almost like, it's almost like, okay, like if you touch your skin, it bubbles up. All right. Imagine touching your nail and then your nail bubbles,

or you touch your hair and then your hair bubbles. Yeah, but your eyeballs, all that sensitive meat. Yeah. So because it feels like your eyeball is like, because it feels like your eyeball is like a, or it feels like your eyeball is almost like your teeth or it's like enamel or something. It's like a different part of your body. I just did-

Ah, it's meat! You know? So yeah, it's a soft tissue and it's way more sensitive. And so as a result, my eye started to swell up with a pus sack. And it was crazy. It was protruding. It was nutsuding not yeah you

undersold it you were kind of like oh yeah you know but like when I looked in the mirror and then like punch mom saw it everything I was like no that's really scary you got it you got to remember I live with Paige my my threshold for you know you're good is is different from the but what it was was there is like basically like there was the iris and then the eyeball next to it was doing like a bump You know it was sticking out and then there's fluid in it And just a little cat juice. Yeah. Well, I mean it turns out that I guess like, you know with the Benadryl Thank you page, you know like and I guess some time and some eye drops. It does go down and, you know, later on that day it was massively reduced and there was

a moment of being like, do we got to go somewhere or, you know, but yes, I will be certainly much more alert about sitting in the throne. Anything is about not touching your face. That's the number one. Yeah. I just, it was a little vibrating chair thing with heat and I was like, oh, I could warm up and try that out. I got Elmo's revenge.

So it was cool. Yeah. So it was cool Yeah, and and you know, I guess not much beyond that That what's going on with your weak well, I mean you did the kumite and you hung out Yeah, you played mark at the mark city of the wharves that that boy's coming along strong Isn't he cute? Mm-hmm. We're in the yes phase, where everything is yes. Doesn't mean it, doesn't know what he's saying yes to, but just like, hey man, you wanna overthrow the government? Yeah.

The best dude. Yeah, no, should the worker cede the means of production? Yeah! Yeah! Just say yes to anything, it's fucking literally the worker's seeds the means of production so yeah that was cool and yeah beyond that what okay so I was gonna touch on how insane and busted Tzok was. He's all- He's busted, but he'll never- He's bugged and crazy.

He'll never- that's not gonna stay. No, no. He can, he can, he's gonna drop you while you're on the ground. That's like- Multiple times in a row. Rufus location test level broken. Accidentally at that. So yeah, there's no way, no way for sure that's going to stay.

But he's fun to play. That's what really matters. Yeah. And it's interesting that he's fun and he's also different from King of Dinosaurs, which is his heel persona in King of Fighters. I love the idea of there being like, it's the same human being, but depending on which series he's in, he's just- Which mask.

Yeah. Then he changes his whole persona up and he does more dinosaur moves or more Griffin moves. Versatile as a wrestler. Anyway, while I was on the plane, was listening to that. I talked about a podcast with Argo Tulik, one of the writers of Disco Elysium and one of the founding folks that was friends with Martin Lujiga and Robert Kurvitz, the original Overcoats as the group was named back in the day. It's really interesting to hear about behind the scenes about how that game came to be and the kind of like just kids skipping school to hang out in Estonian cafes smoking cigarettes when you're way too young and writing a D&D campaign where you're like regular

D&D is boring and not interesting. Let's make some real shit at designing the world of Elysium. It's a really interesting listening. I've not done it so far, it's very long. It's like some nine hours or some crazy. It's really crazy, but going part way through it, I can definitely say if you're interested in that stuff, it's worth checking out. It's called the Human Can Opener and there's three parts to it. The, yeah, little things like,

he kinda pointed out that some people caught on to the fact that like disco even though it's written and used in the word in the sense of the game and described as like a you know it's an attitude it's an era it's a time that we all remember it's also Latin for I learned and therefore disco Elysium is kind of a way of saying I like this this is the beginning of learning about the worldco Elysium is kind of a way of saying, like, this is the beginning of learning about the world of Elysium. That's what that title actually implies, you know? Yeah, it's quite cool.

And anyway, just other little tidbits, all of which come into play this week as well as some very pertinent disco news dropped. So we'll get into that in the weeks too. But yeah, definitely an interesting thing to listen to as well. And I'll check back in certainly once I'm through with it. Beyond that, I mean, there's just too much other shit to go into with the weeks, so I'll just call it there. All right, so on my end. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Sorry, sorry, sorry. Blah, before that, Cyberpunk started Phantom Liberty. That's awesome, that's really cool. Phantom Liberty has a nice intro sequence that does, it really does the most to like immerse you in that setting because I didn't realize until I was in it, but like, you know,

it kind of does a soft lead in to the DLC. It's like an area of the map. And then you get to a market and you walk through a cyberpunk market while a bunch of people are holding up their wares and everyone's got stuff to sell you. And I kind of realized, I'm like, oh shit, this is your demolition man going down underground and seeing the ... Dennis Leary and the goons. Right? This is your arriving at the town in Fallout and looking at the, from the top view, looking down at the marketplace, the town square, and any setting, especially a cyberpunk or post-apocalyptic setting, you know, Star Wars, all these things,

when you show a marketplace and commerce happening, that's such a strong establishing thing that says so much about life, you know, what people are eating, how they're living. How much is it being sold for? What's the currency? Exactly. Whether violence is a part of that, who are the authorities? What are the dynamics and interpersonal things? Are a bunch of guards that are getting paid coming down

and getting bribed? Or are people on their own settling it? Is someone going to turn their head and go back to their drink if someone gets shot behind them? or they're going to freak out, you know, like, there's so much to learn from these, like marketplace establishing moments and cyberpunk has one and it's fantastic. It's great. I kind of didn't know I was missing it until this DLC did that. And it actually lets you take your time going through it as long as you want to. It's pointing you towards a critical path, but you could just walk circles around this

upper and lower level, learn more about what is essentially a stronghold, which is a group that basically took a football stadium and locked it down as their own secure spot, you know, away from corporate influence, or at the very least shielded against their complete takeover. It's really, it's really cool. So that all kind of bleeds in to an explosive, insane. Your job is to protect the president mission. And the way that all... Just full on escape from New York. I mean, like full on and then, you know,

with some Air Force One, get off my plane, you know, going on there too. And yeah, it's also sick to see alongside that introduction with a you know, a cool it's a cool escort mission. It feels like it's an escort mission where, you know, a charismatic like character that you're you're hanging out with is not a chore to walk next to. And you get the unlock of, you know, the DLC abilities, which are just adding some great powers

to whatever style of play you want. So if you're doing melee, you get some really cool rewards for melee in particular. Always love that. Feels a lot like the boosts in Elden Ring, right? You have your ghost, I forgot what they're called, but secondary DLC strengtheners, you know? And like, sure enough, you come across at some point,

there is a fucking spider tank, and everything you would want to occur with that spider tank based on Ghost in the Shell occurs They do they understand the assignment and they deliver so So far that DLC is fucking great and I have yet to even meet Susie or Idris Elba Mm-hmm Very strong. I'm so excited to see if Susie runs you over with her car

Well, I've. I've been threatening. I've heard that threat from day one of the game, so we'll see what happens. But ever since people started writing that in the beginning, I'm on the lookout for cars that are going to QTE me or just come out of nowhere. So we'll see. But yes, Cyberpunk continues. And this week as well, we're going to take a look at Venom and Guilty Gear Strive. So that's going to be popping up on Get Into Fighting Games on Saturday. All right.

Yeah, that's, that's a wooly versus. So what's going on with me? The kids in the yes phase. He's adorable. He's the best ever. I have a minor piece of Jimothy news that would be a Jimmy based piece of information. So last week I described the hilarious message that Jimmy sent me weeks prior that I missed. And the new news, which you can find out more details on Paige's recent Nintendo Direct stream where she went into the Jimmy updates afterwards, is that we did not know this,

but Jimmy is the admin of our local neighborhood D&D and mini painting Facebook group and kicked her out The the is now demanding an apology for Her blocking him on Facebook the unabridged story as told around a really nice Charcuterie spread by the the way. Good stuff. Oh yeah, it was nice, wasn't it? Appreciate that. It's quite wild.

The details, as told, on podcast are wild, and the full thing, of course, is just, woo, woo, it continues. There's way more detail that I'm gonna go, that I'm not even gonna bother going into, because Paige talked about this for like an hour on her recent stream. So you can go check that out over at Peach Salava. It's the Nintendo direct to stream. It's the back half and the Jimmy updates

But yeah, no, she has now been frozen out of the primary form of communication in our neighborhood Because she blocked him because he was sending creepy messages to me and she like, I don't want to get creepy messages from fucking after hours, Jimmy. Um, and so we're, we're navigating this situation now. On the other hand, we went to D and D and had the first post Jimmy D and D. Okay. cuz yeah, I left off with the... Yeah, we were going the next day. With it the next day, correct. Yeah, and guess what? It was awesome! Oh, yeah.

It was fucking great! It was fun. It was the best game of D&D I ever played. Paige said it was the best D&D game she ever played, and we're just sitting around going, holy fucking shit. Yeah. It literally just was all Jimmy, all Jimmy, all negative things in those sessions were Jimmy times. I also just want to take a-

Crazy. I think an important factor too to mention here because I remember when we were recapping it for Reggie as well and it's like there's an important stinger to just keep aware of, which is every one of these sessions is with the cost of a babysitter for the night. Oh yeah, it's like, you pay the babysitter to go to D&D. So I gotta sit here and deal with this bullshit. There is an investment in making sure that these are fun nights, because holy shit,

it takes time and planning and cost. It's not just random whatever. So the D&D is going great, though now on the larger thing, we're now managing people, us going like, well, how are we going to get back in? And people go, well, you know, he's having a hard time and he's just, he's in motion and all this fuck, all this gentle hands BC non-confrontational nonsense though I will say somebody in one of the comments that we saw recently really did put it into perspective which is it's amazing what people will tolerate in a D&D or Warhammer group from the guy who has a 3d printer like it is

The level of bad behavior Tolerate from the one guy who damn oh man Yeah, what are you gonna? Do you know hard time? He's got the fucking printer, dude. Yeah. Yeah, that's funny. That's good, right? Like I said, you go check out pages recent Nintendo Direct stream for more details side sidebar on what you said about the the You know the the BC soft hands bit but out here hands gentle hands well out here seeing as well the amount of just like there's a whole lot of gluten-free and of just like there's a whole lot of gluten free and health adjacent like

choices in stores that like I was like y'all got this lot you got it like this you know that kind of explained to as well or some folks I know from the gluten you got to get rid of the fluoride you can't have that stuff so some folks I know from BC are very, very, very particular about like their choices of things and coming down here they were like, I can't eat, I can't do anything. And I was like, it's not that bad. And then I was like, oh, because out here it's like this. Okay, I see. Yeah, there's a variety of granola. There's a vibe. Good vibes only. There's a granola vibe.

The little spirit provides gluten and fluoride are the enemy. Did I tell you that I was in my dentist's office? And she's like, yeah, you look good. No problem. And I could overhear the dentist, you know, like there's nothing that blocks the two, the two kiosks or whatever the fuck you, and I was listening to an older woman be told by the other dentist, ma'am, if you do not start using fluoride, every single tooth is going to fall out. Oh man, you got to.

And the phrase that came out of her mouth was, well me and my husband don't believe in fluoride. Okay, well, yeah. And the dentist's like, ma'am, every single one of your teeth is about to go. And she's like, I guess I'll talk to my husband about it, but I don't know. Well, because what I believe manifests into reality, right? That's the way things work.

Obviously, I'm not talking to anyone who's actually celiac you know if they've got a gluten allergy problem no one's ever met anyone with celiac disease just you know but yeah the the that's a vibe that is a vibe fuck damn might be time to invest in a 3d printer yeah man wouldn't that wouldn't that be? Look at the little wooly. It's so cool. It's so cool Anyway, well that's from one of our cherished sponsors and they they do everything a million times better than we could with even the nicest 3D printer Yeah, that's basically what's going on with that I also watch I'm working and streaming a lot So if you want to watch me check out Split Fiction with Paige tonight, we're going to stream at 5pm Eastern Pacific, 5pm Pacific. Tomorrow I'm going to do a normal, I'm going

to do a late night Monster Hunter stream and I'm also going to check out the remainder of the treehouse streams. And that'll be it for me. I'm not streaming this weekend. I'm going to be tired. Could you imagine if like y'all just posted like checking out this new 3D printer and then the energy of everyone around you just suddenly shifted? You know what man? I genuinely, I wouldn't even be surprised.

Oh Jesus Christ. Thank God. All right. What are we doing here? You know what man, I genuinely wouldn't even be surprised. Everyone went, oh Jesus Christ, thank God. Alright, what are we doing here? Execute Order 66. Yeah, okay, alright. One of the things that I've discovered about BC is that on the East Coast, people will confront you just to do it. Like there's no

problem but let's have a confrontation. And on the West Coast, people will tolerate like everything short of being stabbed so that they don't have to have an awkward conversation for... conversations. What if we get mad? Well, it's funny how the coastal like word and energy applies in the same way that New York and LA describe themselves to Canada as well. Like East Coast versus West Coast. It's the same thing. Shit is soft out west, y'all. But yeah, but yeah. It's a- Yeah, Paige in the chat says, I bet I could shit on the floor during D&D and everyone

would just look the other way. I think I should just shit my pants the next time I go. Well the important part- Just full on blow out. Well the important part is like mid drop to be looking up at everyone and saying that you're having a hard time. It needs to be like while you're squeezing to make the break, you need to be looking up at everyone and saying that you're having a hard time. Right? It needs to be like while you're while you're squeezing to like make the break, you need to be going I'm sorry, I'm under a lot of I'm having a hard time. Just make sure you

say that in saints. It's I'm sorry. All right. Now you're all having a hard time and I'm sorry about that. There you go. Right? Right. Yeah. Very important. So, I mean, oh man, we're trucking on this podcast.

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Okule-dokely. So let's see over here. Now the big chunky parts. Let's get the small things out of the way I suppose first, right? Yeah, let's do it like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So one, I talked a little bit earlier about listening to Argo Tulek, who was one of the disco-elitium writers, who was one of the Disco Elysium writers on the whole process of how Disco Elysium came and started and continued and when things split up and so on.

There's a really long thing. It was really interesting hearing that because as that happened, simultaneous, I got sent a message with a little video going, hey, check this out. And I was reading about how, you know, essentially there's a whole thing where like, so Robert Curvitz had the initial initial falling out and then left. And then some folks that we know from the staff before Za'am completely, you know, was devoid of any of the original staff, there

were still some people that stuck around and were still working on Discord release and related projects. As we were describing, obviously people need to eat, it's understandable. That's true. And some of the things that got announced, there was a full-fledged sequel that was supposed to happen. I think it was called Project Y9. And then at some point after that, there was the announcement of Project X7, which was a standalone expansion to Disco. And so what we got was a video showing off Project X7, the DLC, that was going to be called Locust City, an Elysium story.

Essentially Jamrock Hobo, who's one of the premier, I'd say, like Disco Elysium content creators online, who grabbed us playing through the game in our various playthroughs and stuck us in some compilations to like some of the wildest moments and stuff. Good stuff. Shout out to the Jamrock. Got sent a video from someone who, you know, in the know, that was just like, hey, upload this. And it was a full project meeting internally discussing Locust City and Elysium story. So that was on April 1st was when it got uploaded, but it was way too elaborate. And if you watch

the video, you could see this is way too in depth for this to be an April Fool's joke. There's no way, right? Because it's getting into each team's development where they're at and them showing off how their tech is going. So what it is, is a story starring Kuno and Kuno S. And it was actually interesting to see some of the pitch and what they had in mind. It got taken down, but of course people made some copies, so I'm sure it can be found elsewhere. Oh, it doesn't matter. You can never get to it fast enough.

Yeah, the original video, exactly. It must be backed up a million places. But Kuno and Kuno-S basically yucking it up, running through as essentially Kuno's dad gets murdered and then he goes on an adventure to figure out what the fuck happened. So it starts out with an overlap of two voices that sound very similar to the limbic system and the ancient reptilian brain. But they're actually the inner kind of ego voices of Kuno and Kuno-S separately. It would have been a game where you control both of them and as they go around and interact

with things, you can switch from one to the other while talking to people and have the conversation switch between the two. Some thoughts that Kuno starts, Kuno-S has to finish and vice versa. They have individual stats that are the voices in their heads. They have individual bits and pieces that play off of each other and there was a whole two in one sort of setting to them that was quite interesting. One of the bits was that like something about Kudo-S's past, for example, involved being near the ocean so she could hear things differently and pay attention to the sound of water differently from him. So when you clicked on her, she would notice the sound of like a running river somewhere nearby or a fountain. And on his side, when you click on him, he

can't hear that because what he hears are chattering locusts because he's got a box of locusts and he's poked holes in them to keep them alive. And you don't know what he's going to do with this box of locusts, but they're there. And every once in a while, he can peek at them to see what's happening in the box. And depending on how you've been playing him, the civilization of locusts inside the box will evolve differently to reflect his psyche. It's so weird. Because his psyche and everything about Kudo, obviously being as fucked up as it is, can

go to a lot of different places. And overall, kind of like a thought cabinet in a way, which was also there, this would be like, it sounds like you could have them create a civilization of like, you know, prosperity and they can build up buildings and structures and talk to each other. Or it becomes like dank feudalism. Or just all out war and bloodbath. And you're just like, what is he going to do with this box of bugs? You know? And yeah, it was broken up into these five major acts where it starts with them discovering and then leaving and going on, I guess, what might be a coming of age for these two shit kids?

And then that intro narration in particular as well, it was just so interesting to see like Kudo's inner voice just be like this badass strong confident Nothing fucks on Kudo Who's that? You know like and and her inner voice is like this kind of like sassy adult self-confident sure British woman Speaking with like sharpness. It's just that kid yelling about their soda being Minjin.

Yeah, but what she hears herself is like this sassy, confident, strong voice, you know? And it was a whole setup they had where the two played off of each other, you know? And of course, again, sometimes you look at one character and you do a red check, but you can switch over to the other to like swerve the conversation a different way. Very interesting setup in that you can go check it out. It's about a 15 minute, you know, presentation on where they were going with it. But Locust City was what it was called. That was Project X7. And that is what Argo Tulik was working on before he got ousted

and before the whole thing fell apart. And now of course the lawsuits are happening to make sure that he can't work on anything anywhere and such. So it's a whole fucking mess. But we gotta look at at least one of those, you know, Disco Plus type things. Quite interesting as a premise, and the idea of having the main character be that fucking Kudo doesn't fucking care, like, in your head, you know, the whole time, would have been all kind of nuts. It would have been so good. Would have been really, really interesting. Yeah, I feel like, you know, well, obviously we don't know what's going to happen, but

the idea of some of the original creators at least being around to like steer the ship or guided in some way meant that, you know, what you could, you could, you could, you could see something interesting like this potentially come out of it, even if Curvitz is not around, you know, but like who the fuck knows with, with nothing there, you know, you obviously we saw that, that first person kind of mobile version of things and who, you know, we'll see how that comes along, because they're doing that made for phone change up in the format and such, but overall, that seems like a promising idea, you know?

Huge shame. Yeah, go check that out. Go check that out if you- Watch none of these come out, man. Like, not a single one. Of all the successors, all the sequels, all the deal. They all just sue each other into oblivion. Into oblivion. Yeah, just crash the fucking Estonian game.

I mean, this is the Estonian games market, really, right? Uh, boy. Anyway, um... Okay, so beyond that, what else is going on? Right? Boy. Anyway. OK, so beyond that, what else is going on? Well, real quick, they just showed off the Marvel Rival Season 2 Hellfire Gala. So we got to see Ultron and White Queen.

And there's something just so simple in that all of this is going on and there's a currently in a Limited edition thing which if you get on like think pretty much like right away or so you can get your chance at twerking venom Yeah, and Isn't twerking venom? Just the perfect microcosm for What every other game we're about to talk about should be doing.

Is that not just like people just want twerking venom just because people were like, oh man, it'd be cool venom twerked because venom's got a big butt. And then they went, yeah, okay. Yeah, sure. Fuck it. You know, not unknown random DJs and potential fucking So, not unknown random DJs and potential fucking criminals and god knows what else happening here. Just Venom, dropping it. I tell you what, I'll tell you what. Dropping it low. Mad Fientist- Marvel Rivals is like a really good example for me of how badly the FOMO

spell has broken for me because I was playing other things and then realized that I had missed out on some fucking seasonal event. I think it was like the Chinese New Year costumes. Oh, right. For Rivals. And then as soon as I realized that, I'm like, oh, okay, I'm done. It broke. As soon as the FOMO kicked in, I'm like, oh, I missed out on, okay, no, I'm done. I'm done forever. Okay. Like I'm not, I'm not going to chase the anytime limited fucking thing or battle pass on this fucking game. Like, no, I think there's a bit where I look, cause I, I popped on just to look at, see what going on and I saw the Spider-Punk outfit and I was like, ooh, Spider-Punk looks really good. But I'm like, I don't play Spider-Man,

but still, but me. And I'm like, okay, for the characters I care about and the ones I play, I think I can be like, let me get the ones, let me get those. But anything that's not gonna be super time limited for a character I don't play I think I might be a little more willing to chill on but you know that being said like Torquing venom with the Marvel versus Capcom colors. Yeah, let's fucking run that you know, yeah

And yeah, it's spider-punk 2099 But he still but he has like the the filter the popped explosion color filter on him on some of those animations really really Good job there. Anyway Yeah, that orange venom looks fucking great Marvel one Okay, then Let's you know what here let me let me early spotlight me, early spotlight as well, some, some, some good, some cool stuff that's happening.

One, someone pointed me in the direction of a fan game called Mega Man X Corrupted. I watched it. There's a, there's a, some footage over this over the years. I think the video I saw was the, the Cyber Lab. And I was like, OK, Mega Man X fan game, let's take a look. Oh, my God, I'm watching this whole video. I just within like a minute of watching what was going on, I was like, fuck me, this looks incredible. It looks just it's just Mega Man.

It's like, you know, you're you're watching like zero running through like a mission. You're meeting characters talking a whole set up where it's like like the the the map is is broken up in a zero like way where you're going to different directions. There's a level up screen where you're looking at your different upgrade branching routes. And it just looked really compelling.

And it was like the punch line. There's no punch line. It's just this could have been what the franchise was if we continued to make those games, I suppose. You know? It's just kind of a bit of a like, yeah, the fan community still knows what we kind of wanted and it just looks dope as hell. When do...

How do I play it? Not out yet. And... Has it been worked on? Seems like a while. That's the punchline. Okay, there it is! There it is! Seems like a while.

15 years? Get the fuck out of here. Are you serious? Oh yeah! That's a good punchline! Oh yeah! years get the fuck out of here are you serious oh yeah because well you started to talk about it and I started watching Mega Man X corrupted cyber lab and the text says I'm proud of sure the amazing work the team has done which I interpreted as the games not out yet and now I'm like okay I interpreted as the game's not out yet. And now I'm like, okay, where is it? What's what it? All right. Well, it's hey, it's either that or, you know, tap the sign on my video. But since we're already talking about it, and, you know, there was that one time

that Capcom officially endorsed the fan game. So that gives everyone hope. I mean, Capcom product is like probably the safest. You're going to like do a fan game of anybody like Capcom does occasionally endorse fan games and rarely shuts them down. Sega would be the safest, I'd say. They have a whole ages celebration of it. They also like need you to keep putting out Sonic games

that people wanna play because they won't. But litmus tests, infinite data, oh man, you know the Capcom test? Yeah. Like Sega has the Sonic test made for them every single year over and over and over again. There's so much info and so much data on exactly what to do there.

But overall I'm like, hey, I'm glad if a company is like, yeah, let the fan game rock, but if it's been 15 years in the making, Jesus Christ. I guess it's gone under the radar. All right, well if you wanna go watch a cool 20 minute video of a game that may or may not come out Megaman X corrupted cyber lab was pretty dope I

Think today is a really good day to say the phrase I think games are good when they come out, and you know what came out speaking of which What's that ultimate Marvel versus Capcom 3 Community Edition is out! Cool! I thought it was out this whole time. No, it was a working version. Basically, yeah, I think the person that was working on Nero for a long time was unable to complete the project due to some personal stuff, but it looks like it's finally gotten finished.

In the meantime, let me tell you, the amount of fucking shit they put in is obscene. What I thought was like going to be a healthy 10, maybe 15 characters has turned out to be perhaps more than that. Would you like a quick run through? Hit me. So obviously the full roster that you know. And then Shadow Lady, Evil Ryu, Lilith, Orange Hulk, Spider Gwen, A New Wolverine, Stars Wesker, Red She-Hulk, Phoenix and Maya, Captain Marvel,

Marvel 2 Sentinel, Shin Akuma, Chris from Stars, Ken Cyclops, Jean Grey, DMC One, Dante, Thanos, Psylocke, Rashid, Monster Hunter, Hunk, Cami, Ultron, Asura, Moonstone, Guile, Charlie, Leon, Krauser, Jake, Sherry, Sakura, Batsu, Bishop, Iceman, Gambit, Venom, Carnage, Captain Commando, Tail Bane, Shocker, Blackheart, Mega Man X, King Thor, Stranger Jill from Stars, US Agent, Clea, Servbot, Dan Hibiki, Gloria, The Thing, DMC5, Virgil, Nero, Strider 2099, M. Bison, Colossus, Onslaught, Hayato, Carter, Slade, Kiyosuke, Saki, Yun, War Machine, Bad Box Art, Mega Man, and Jury with 49 costumes.

Why does Jury have 49 costumes? You know exactly why! Okay, I want to ask you a question and I want a yes-no answer. Is one of Jury's costumes just the entire model is replaced with the model of her bare foot. And it works like Daytona USA like Carr from Fighting Megamix. Someone failed the assignment if that isn't the case. I'm seeing people say the word yes. A giant foot must obviously be costume number 49.

Are you serious? Like actually? I have no idea. But if you go look at the trailer, I think the last five minutes is just jury costumes going from one into the other. It's absolute madness. It's absolute madness. What's the exact name of this?

Infinite Beyond? No, no, no. This is Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 Community Edition. Infinite and Beyond is Marvel 4, you know. Oh, okay. This is different. This is Marvel 3, not the Infinite game. This is the one that was fine the whole time.

They just added more. They just added more. This is not the one that needed fixing. So yeah, head over to Nexus Mods and grab it. I can tell you this, just looking at footage of Nero, he's perfect and incredible. That on its own is worth the price of entry, which is obviously nothing. It's a mod. But Nero is perfect. It's a perfect Marvel 3 Nero. Did they improve the netcode? I think you can play with other people

who have it installed. Is the netcode better? I mean, I don't think that was part of the overhaul, no. I think you've got what you got Insane insane And yeah, I do know that Folks were running parsec Is parsec good now or like like is good parsecs a solution for that for for a while, but is it good?

Yeah, yeah, you can play. Yeah, you can play it and you can feel like input, you know So I'm told Okay, so I'm told all right Crazy That's bananas. Someone was number. What's the number up to on that? Someone was working on a rollback patch, but they abandoned it due to personal issues. Damn. Okay. Uh, I mean, if you want full numbers, 68 characters added to the base roster. That's pretty good.

In fact, I would say that in a fast tag game in today's world, you would be crazy to release your game with less than even half of 68 characters. I mean, that's a very extreme number to force 34 out there. Yeah, so let's just cut that in half to be reasonable. But- 34! The last bit is just to say that the thing I wanted the most about this is the case, which is by having these all released together, there are also new characters that are balanced

together. And yes, important. And around each other in a standardized way too. So they all kind of fit in. So here we go. There's a discussion about balance and a discussion about roster. Which way, young FGC gamer? That is a false equivalence. We have played a lot of games that had rosters of 10-15 characters that were fucking balanced like shit. No, what I mean is this segue can swerve into Tekken or to 2XKO. Oh yeah? Okay.

Let's go to 2XKO. Hey, I... Okay, you know what? No, no, I actually want to know why is the Tekken patch so bad? I've never seen the FGC just turn on a whole game So this whole game so this this one is is difficult because like like I don't play Tekken I I so I'm I'm casual on Tekken, right? like I play and I have a character and I enjoy playing it and you know Stuff is cool, but I definitely Have to refer to those who know and are in there

much more frequently to learn fortunately God damn it. Let me try to find it. FI released a Street Fighter equivalent of what these patches would be like if they were in Street Fighter 6. Because to me, there was a divining rod. One was somebody in chat asked me, hey man, you see this shit happening with Tekken? And I went on Steam, I opened up the browser and I went, how bad?

Overwhelmingly negative. Holy shit. And then I checked my Discord, I think the next day, and Punk Duck had reached out to me out of nowhere and said, okay, well, Tekken 8 is abysmal. I'm switching to Virtua Fighter. And I was like, whoa, that's a big statement. That's a lot. That is a crazy statement. Whoa. Yeah. And so the tricky part too is as well as the part where like there's been a lot so Tekken as well as a

community there's been a lot of moments of like people you know it's hard to tell when it's like oh this shit's garbage and it's like okay is it or is it kind of like your character yeah yeah yeah because you know it's not not just not a cry wolf situation as much as it is there's been times where you're like, damn it, this game is over, it's fucking dead. And it's like, it's not that bad. But admittedly- I've heard that statement a lot. But admittedly, but basically they released a new character whose balance is all fucked

up and they're going to need to address it. What I will say is, and so this is one of those cases where you're like, is that what's happening here? And it's like, it seems like it's quite a bit more. And that's why the overwhelming amount of feedback is happening. Here, let me get you this tweet. It feels like, I will say, so far, despite the fact that, don't ask me for shit is the Harada meme, over time, when there's been these big moments of backlash, it usually feels

like there's a correction moment, like with the Hey Hatchie stage inclusion and shit like that. There's a moment where they actually go, okay, no, wait, we fucked up. Hold on. Let's go fix this. Right? So here is a tweet from Phi DX who translated Tekken Season 2 changes for Street Fighter players. Oh, that's so good. So yeah, okay, I got this up. Go ahead and read it because this is fun. Okay, so- Because we can assume our audience is more familiar with Street Fighter than Tekken. Okay, so this is like saying Akuma Go-Hadoken, which is the Hadoken damage has been reduced by 50, 100. Okay, hold on. Shit, it shrunk. Sorry. Damage been reduced by 50, 100, 150 on light,

medium, heavy. Akuma damage reduced by 50, 100, 150, light medium heavy. Input changed to down, down, plus punch. So one of Shoryuken became down, down, plus punch, right? Okay. So Akuma's Tatsu frame advantage on block increased from minus 13 to minus one. So one of Tatsu was just almost safe, right? His health increases from 9 9000 to 10,000 which is standardized health so the big weakness Akuma usually has yeah we just took that away okay his demon flip kick may increase startup speed making it harder to react to shen Goku Satsu which is the raging demon changed input to down down, kick plus punch,

so you can just do it right away. And it's invincible to projectiles from the first frame. But to make up for this, damage has been reduced to 4,000 from 4,700. And then a little also at the bottom, Kami, quick spin knuckle, projectile in volume from the first frame instead of the ninth, and frame advantage on hit, change to plus eight, which is enough time for her to do a standing heavy punch, which allows a full combo afterwards. You know what the best part about this is? Absolutely perfectly understand exactly how this would translate into tech.

Yes. exactly how this would translate into tech and yes, it's like, okay, so everything is faster, scarier, less, less, less threatening. Like, it's less safe on block. But hey, you know what? Hey, did you get a did you get a hit in? Just go just go do whatever. Go crazy. Okay, but we tone the damage down. We toned it down. So it's safe. Also, there's new moves that track and do everything and basically create 50-50 situations after you block them because you were mistaken for blocking it. You should not have been there. Yeah, they turned it into Killer Instinct without combo breakers. So it all goes pretty intense, right? anyway, that level of the translation going over, now they're like, the idea is what if you applied that to the whole cast, right?

You'd be insane. Why would you do it? So this all started with a, initially they revealed that they're like throw-tecking, which is when you break a throw, was going to change for the first time, you're going to have it be so that breaking a throw led to you taking a little bit of damage while the person who tried to throw is in heat, right? So that's a that's a you know, an activated point during the round. Is that how they say it?

In heat? Is that how people in Tekken say it, is like when your opponent is in heat? During heat. Yeah. The mechanic is called heat, and you activate it. So when you're in heat, these are the things that happen. That's so funny.

Yeah, I mean, I know. You can say phrasing all you want. That's how it's referred to characters go and heat. They do. It's true. They do do that. This has been a thing. It's the whole time. Anyway, so um, that's so fucking funny. Oh my god. So a big a big part of this has been, so that was an initial change. And then also they made a change so that when you do key the properties of the attack in a lot of cases, allowing you to do different types of combos or strings and such. They change that as well so that it's just a damage increase instead of a hit type property change. People were

understandably pretty upset about that because they're like, these are part of the identity of the franchise. They've been there for so long and it's really strange to just do that. There's a discussion point around when Street Fighter V launched and reversal, wake up Shoryuken type situations where Shoryukens were not invulnerable, you know, and then they had to like, eventually go like, okay, no, only if you press, if you do it as an ex move or so. But it was just very weird, because it was just like, this has been a part of this franchise for a really long time. People were really upset about that. And then they're like, also, there's going to be character specific changes that are coming later on. But that was the first one. People, you know, were upset and they did respond before patch 2.0 for Tekken 8 dropped. And the response was, and this is the thing where I'm

like, radiant and the 2x scale folks and everything, like explaining your patch notes and why you do things is very important because perception is super super Crucial to people perceiving and understanding why things are the way they are right? It's part of the the Metagame of balance like we've had games in the past buff guns and call of duty by Changing their sound effect, right? And it works, it works on player psychology. But explaining, like, no, here's the actual design mentality

behind why we nerf this or change this, it also affects player mentality, because people who understand and don't just, why is it different? Yeah, I've often said how much I love Rising Thunder's patch notes, and to that end, when, yeah, and the same energy is going into, I've often said how much I love Rising Thunder's patch notes and to that end when right Yeah, and the same energy is going into like when they're breaking down details about 2x ko

Excuse me like when you describe what you're changing you go. Here's what it was Here's what we wanted it to do Here's where it was failing to do that people were doing something else and it wasn't working that same way And so here's why we're changing it and here's what we're changing it to. And so that initial thing of people just seeing that and going, I don't understand why you're doing this, what the fuck is going on? Especially if it's a thing that's been a legacy part of the franchise for the entire time, rightfully understandably confused as to what the fuck is going on, right? Why are you doing this? So then an explanation, Kana came out and addressed

it, and it did go into why. And I feel like something that has unfortunately happened with a lot of Japanese fighting games over the years has been like a... Because I'm thinking of specifically as well when Killer Instincts would also have Keats do those streams where he's like, we're going do like a three hour stream cracking over every one of these changes and what y'all wanted and what you're looking for and walking you through it. So everyone was very, everyone understood where you were coming from, where you were going

and what the intention was. And then I remember the days of just like, yeah, a lot of games that were just like, no, there's a way of doing things and that is we make a change, we don't want to tell you what it is. And you have to discover for yourself why and what that means. But by playing everything close to the chest, you know, you're just kind of like, you don't want to dictate how people should play, but also you create frustration

when you're like, I don't know why you did this. It's baffling. I mean, I'm watching like, uh, somebody posted a tweet in here and it's like a trivial touch of death it's like a trivial touch of death off of like a trade. So I like a touch of death. Like that's crazy. I remember when I remember when we got updates to like, I think it was like Super Street Fighter 4 and I saw like a phalong or a couple other things where it's just like various adjustments have been made and you're like, go fuck yourself. How about that? How about go fuck your very, how about you go fuck yourself

in a various amount of ways that I won't specify. It really, really, really sucked to just not know what the fuck that meant. So with this, even getting into the specifics of the detail of like, you know, here's what the frame data changes are and the property changes are. The explaining the why part is something that's really important. So an explanation came out afterwards where they said, okay, so in terms of the feedback on throws,

here's what we were getting at. And this is something, and like with throws, there's always been like this kind of thing where throwing in Tekken is, if you're a top player, you can recognize whether the left hand is above the right hand or the right hand is above the left. And you can always tech what you see because you have the reactions and you're just that good.

You've trained yourself and you have the skill for that. If you're not amongst that list, if you're everyone else, you're getting thrown all the time nonstop. You can't break shit, right? So it's this really interesting thing when you have a character that's built around throws, like a king or so, where you're like, oh, your kit doesn't work on people

that can react to this, but a whole bunch of players are unable to react to throws and just get thrown constantly. I can't react to throws in Tekken. It's an aggressive, you have to train Tekken. It's, yeah, it's an aggressive. You have to train for this. And honestly, like I was talking with a bunch of folks this week about it, but like Tekken does feel like a game

where it is very difficult to make that your secondary game while you main something else, especially like a 2D fighter. If Street Fighter or Guilty Gear or so is your main game and you have Tekken as your secondary or so It feels it's like it's much more difficult than if you make Tekken your main game And then you put something else secondary because of how much unique stuff that doesn't apply to all the other fighters Tekken requires of you. I would say it's the same with like Virtua Fighter. Oh, yeah, I play Virtua Fighter on the side No, you don't you either prior Virtua Fighter and other shit, or you you fucking just you should virtual player playing Tekken makes you

Can help you with soul caliber and vice versa, but like that's a that's a two-way street And it's locked in its own place You know versus a lot of other 2d fighters where you know what getting better at blocking and in in Strive or exert is going to apply to certain Marvel games a a certain hyper games, playing Dragon Ball, playing a team fighter, playing Skullgirls. A lot of these skills are interchangeable. The 2D fighters all have more shared DNA than all of the 3D fighters. Exactly. Like Mortal Kombat with a block button is obviously out over here on the side. We're talking about fighting games. But things where there's a lot that's interchangeable. But yeah, Tekken really is doing its own. You know? So, um, so with that, you have something difficult where they're like,

okay, how do we address throws when so many people are having trouble with it, but at the same time, competitively, it's not as much of a threat as it needs to be. Right? Well, I mean, certainly there's things where like King has obviously there's one plus two breaks, which is like you break by pressing both one and two together, or he has a throw that you break with three, I believe Renato explained to me. So what they explained after they made those changes was essentially that, yeah, people have struggled with throw breaking and people that are really good certainly are able to do so, but a large majority of

players are struggling. And so what they wanted to do was alongside this, they've made it. So with this change, they made it so that one plus two breaks, which require you to hit to think and recognize them and break them. It takes a little bit more attention. They are, there's a larger window of time when you can break that. Right? So those throw breaks get easier. And if you try to throw somebody and you whiff, also you're going to be slower to recover from that whiff, which

means going for a throw and messing up is more punishable. And so that was the idea was essentially we're going to make it so that it's easier for most people who struggle with throws to break and punish them. And so in exchange for that at high level, if you are already able to break all these throws, well, you shouldn't be there to begin with. You should be either sidestepping or doing something because you're a good enough player to not to avoid this. Therefore, you don't take the little bit of you, you know, that's the idea behind it, right? And here's where you get to this weird place in your life where you hear somebody make a calm and reasonable argument from a position of knowledge and all you have in your gut

is that sounds stupid as fuck. So that's like, that's something that they ultimately went, okay, we're gonna roll back the part where the person who tried to throw gets one, a bit of recovered health, and we're gonna make it so that the person who takes the throw is gonna get a little bit of health that can be recovered over time. But overall, that explanation,

I do understand where they're coming from, when it's like Yeah Throws are something completely different to like the competitive level of player versus 90% of everyone else right I get that explanation What ends up happening is alongside this there's then the full release of the 2.0 patch which is like Everyone now has all their like there's then the full release of the 2.0 patch, which is like, uh, everyone now has all their, like everyone's abilities.

There's new moves. Stuff has been adjusted drastically. Like that Akuma thing we did earlier where it's like, Oh, this kind of discussion about throws and key charges are like way in the background now because the overall game has gotten way more insane. And it's effectively what people are calling like a Kusouge patch, which is the equivalent of like what the insane Dragon Ball fighters thing they did on the way out is kind of happening now while Tekken 8 is live, you know? And it was like in the case of Dragon Ball when it was like, hey, we're getting out of here with one last hurrah while the game was kind of retiring. That's very different from we're in the peak of this game's life

in the middle of a second season. But it led to- It's very weird. It led to what people are kind of- So everyone's got their different takes on it, but essentially they're like, the discussion from players are that there are now 20 characters in S tier, is kind of the idea. Oh, so it's really well balanced then? Everyone, including the already strongest characters, has gotten buffed and incredible improvements.

In a lot of cases, they've been given stuff that's so strong that they lose their identity. What was special about the character or unique about their kit? Oh, no. Falls by the wayside. Oh my God. I just saw Paul do 60% on a single counter hit punch. So give me a second. I'll get to what you're looking at in that video. What ends up happening is people end up having a lot of, they have new moves and new things where the risk reward for doing this new thing is just so much better than anything else their old kit did that you should just do this new thing, right? So everyone, whether they needed it or not, got buffed to oblivion.

And so the philosophy now is being challenged of the like, don't nerf, just buff, in which we've had this discussion quite a bit So we're gonna have to they're so strong. You don't even have to play the game So we're gonna have to like, you know put the asterisk in this school and explain that a little bit further. I think That video there's a video of Paul Doing the punch and what and strongest in the universe and like you see 60% damage in one hit, right? and so that's them take that's counter hit damage plus heat plus rage plus

I Think the the key charge as well. So care right don't care Yeah, and and the clean hit and it's like five or so like unique impossible type situations all stacked on each other to create that outcome. So what that's too much. Even even with all that. So all that just the point of the sentence being that like it's it would be pretty impossible for all those things to occur in a real match to get that damage. but still, that being, it's still. That shouldn't be numerically achievable through your fighting game.

But that's a bad example of things being dumb because that's not a real one, right? The real one is when you see Jack doing an endless stream of lunging elbows. I also saw that. Where you're like unable to do shit and the mistake you made was blocking it. Or where, you know, things that again,

that were safe and already strong and advancing also track. So if you try to sidestep, you get blown up for it. That's mean. And a lot of other things that overall changed some of the game work was the, yeah, the ability to like sidestep forward from crouch and just some major stuff that has never been the case in the game is now just open ended.

So I kinda wondered, I'm like, oh, were they going for a Dragon Ball Fighters esque like Kusouge style patch with the way that Dragon Ball went out and kind of what you were just fundamentally changing the spirit of what we think the goal of the game is here? Hard to say. But I think initially, so let me see here, because I believe there was an explanation document for some of these changes. Um, and and kind of getting into like what they're overall getting at. But the end result has been people, even everyone that has a stronger character

have been really upset going like, this isn't what I wanted this game to be. This isn't fun. And, you know, overall, even I feel like I'm like, it feels like I'm robbed and robbing people in a way where the one thing that they expected was based on a previous statement, which they said, we're going to be buffing defense, right? They claimed that's not true. They claim that defense was going to be improved in the future. And here, not only is defense not improved, it's completely gone the opposite way where it's all offense or nothing. And that has made everyone go, well, what the fuck was the, why'd you say that? Right? So yeah, it has it has erupted in a massive review bomb. Obviously, we're seeing it be overwhelmingly negative.

People are basically quitting the game and are switching to Virtua Fighter or various players are basically going, I don't wanna compete. Overall, the craziest part about this was like, when I was talking about it with Reggie, we kind of went, man, this is nuts because all of this just out of nowhere,

not even with a piece of new content. Huh. And I was like, yeah, that's crazy. And completely forgot, like everyone else did, that Anna was released with this patch and Anna is not discussed at all. Nobody knows anything about how Anna is doing because I remember. I remember that I remembered that this is part of it, but I have not seen the word Anna once. No one has any idea how Anna is doing.

And also she was someone who was 50-50 heavy as a part of what she was about, an irony. But yeah, who knows? Because no one's discussing the new character. So yeah, it's kind of just this really nutso moment where a lot of, again, what people describe as the identity of the franchise just feels like it's gone. And there has been, I believe earlier today essentially, an emergency patch discussion. So they're talking about adjusting Paul's hammer, the gods and Jack's elbow are two things that are going to be pushed out. And they're going to be

looking at feedback from everyone else to further go on and adjust more. And perhaps, you know, tweak or maybe even remove things as time goes on. I don't know the messaging is vague at the moment. The issue that a lot of people have is that this is such a large sweeping change where the whole cast has gotten a whole bunch of new shit and so many things have changed that a couple of tweaks and flips here and there are not going to cut it. It would have to almost be like a full overhaul, a full rollback, you know? So, yeah, like, pulling back on some stuff is not going to fix, you know, what they're doing there. I was looking at what was going on with Steve Fox and like, they gave him a bunch of shit where if I'm just reading that I'm like, oh

my God, that's incredible, you know, but then also stuff where he doesn't have the freedom to- But it's in a world in which everyone else got something incredible. And overall, it's like what,? Yeah, so the the the I understand the idea of syndrome from the Incredibles fucking balancing Tekken now. So what ends up what's ends up sucking exactly is the like what everybody is like really strong, but they're strong in the same homogenized way. That's not as fun. That's and that certainly makes people who have been spending a really long time getting good at these games feel like, well, what was I doing?

Right? And that ends up being a lot of the struggle I feel like, what I feel people talk about Tekken and are upset with the way things are going. Because there's a lot of people that were upset with the way things are going already. You know, with like heat mode, a lot of legacy players, as the term was described in the tweet, a lot of older players are like, yeah, this is a spectator feature that's a lot more hyperactive and kind of just made for us viewers, but as a player, this doesn't feel as good and it makes it even harder to be strong defensively. And so it's just like a doubling down on that philosophy, you know? Well, so what I'm getting from this conversation

is that Tekken 8 is suffering from severe structural problems because the team went out there and did far too much. And I can think that our friends over at 2XKO are not going to have that problem. Well, hold that thought for a second before we switch out. Just to say... That's two. We're not ready yet. The last thing I wanted to say that I think is interesting and a little more relevant

because we've been hammering on this and this is a very in-depth we're talking. I literally talked about frame data, which is like I made a mental thing to be like don't bring a frame data as much as you can avoid it you know in general but yeah we're here right but every once in a while you got to get into it because that's what's fucking happening and to explain this to anybody who's like why is Tekken on fire you have to explain why which involves getting there right so they gave everyone a gun seems to be the short answer but I just wanted to say that like remember that part of this is that the Core-A gaming buffs are better than nerfs video was a pretty good one that we've discussed and brought up many

times. You can put a little asterisk within reason. Within reason because I did see some people are just like, yo, this video has done irreparable damage. It's the perspective on- They're not watching Gerald's video in tech and advice. I would not be surprised if some people were, but overall, the idea in general that when we're talking about it as a common understanding of, oh, what Seth Killian said back in the day, we try to buff up instead of nerfing down because it feels better what that means, you know,

in the long term, right? And we always talk about like the idea of the, I think it was at the loss proposition where it's like, it feels better to get something. It feels twice as good. Twice as bad to lose something than it does to gain something. You're describing a concept known as loss aversion. Loss aversion, right. Yeah, so that's a big part of it. So I think exactly like the overall idea there is that applies is in this case, if you're buffing already buffed characters further into oblivion, if it comes at sacrificing

again identity of the characters and a lot of the fun, you know, the, the same video also describes how the perfectly balanced game that is Street Fighter one is the least fun in the world, you know, and, um, nobody wants Street Fighter one does have perfect balance. Nobody wants that game where everybody is strong, but everybody can do the same thing and everybody is on that same level because they're all the best, right? That's five, five matchups across the board. I think Gerald says like, this isn't exactly the five, five utopia everyone dreams of.

Exactly. Right. And so, you know, you bring up the, it also goes in to describe the idea of how like, hey, there was a really tall basketball player who stopped the game because he could hold the ball forever and make it so that nobody could do anything. And thus, you know, we had to invent the shot clock. And the shot clock made it while nerfing that guy, it made the game fun for everybody and it increased the score and increased attention and added something as well. So that's a form of nerf that makes

the game better. And here's a reasonable example. Everybody else gets buffed by the shot clock that is not seven feet tall. And then for anyone who's shorter than that even, here's the other side of it. You get the three point line, which then allows people who are able to shoot no matter what their height to score and increase the tension and stakes of the game as well in a different way strategically

that has nothing to do with your ability to stand there, hold the ball forever, right? So taking those points into account, that's also like here, it's like we're seeing buff ups with no consideration for any of those other factors. And that's where I would say, you know, you can't just blindly say, yes, never nerf only buff, you know, and that's what happened.

So, speaking of shot clocks, the one over at Riot is about to run out and they're going to have to shoot their shot. Are you guys ready to make a three pointer? So here's the thing with the 2XKO open discussion, right? They broke down a lot of changes and a lot of what they described sounded really interesting and cool. And I want to get into those but obviously the big gut punch is the one that it reveals

that they're like it's going to be launching with 10 characters. That is less than we were unhappy about when it comes to Hunter x Hunter. That is I think the second smallest tag roster ever. Tag games. Skull Girls is the only one. Skull Girls at launch was one of those examples. And we talk about how when you play a game that uses more than one fighter on your team,

you see them more often, so it wears out a little faster. I would like to talk about the best case scenario and the worst case scenario for a 10 character tag game. The best case scenario, you're playing with 40% of the game's entire roster per match. The worst case scenario is the balance is a little off and you're playing with the same 5% of the roster in every single match because Ahri is on every team. One of your assists is locked in for a universal, yeah, for every single player.

Like the threat of like a ranked mode decided entirely by mirrors is Very real with a 10 character roster So obviously it feels like this is a Pace one character per year of development that was not intended. That's pretty insane and I think You know going with this, Riot did give them the ability to be like, hey, take as long as you need to make the thing, do what you got to do. Too long.

But over time, eventually, yes. Right. And the thing is, as well, I guess the idea is like, okay, they also want their releases to be massive gangbusters drops into whatever genre, right? So you don't just put out a Runeterra for it to not be the big card game. You don't put out a Valorant for it to not be the big shooter. Everything has that kind of energy behind it. And so here it seems like that extra time was taken to make sure that this is like a really sick tag fighter that has a bunch of cool shit in it. But in exchange, the roster has not been developed at a pace that, yeah, would be reasonably comparable to any other tag fighter. Soterios Johnson So I'd like to take on a steel and straw man on something you said,

which is a roster of one character per year, which is something that I was also saying when I talked about it on stream and social media, to which the immediate response, which is completely true and reasonable, they weren't taking 11 and a half months to make a character. No, that's just an average. That's a rhetoric point to make an average. It's not going to be 11 months before the next character. Obviously they had to reboot development maybe once, maybe twice, maybe thrice, or there were other concerns or whatever to which my built-in response is one, who cares?

And two, if they had to reboot development multiple times to the point where now after a nine-year development cycle were up to 10 characters, it doesn't give me a lot of faith that development will continue smoothly going forward now that they were planning on ramping up character releases and they didn't put a time frame on how frequently we would see them. But it would obviously be faster than we're looking at now. But yes, and you know, so in our heads we think of like, okay, well how fast do characters

come out in other things, right? Certainly not going to be hitting that. You can't compare it to Marvel Rivals with the 90 day turnaround bit or whatever. No, you can compare it to League, where it's at 80. It's eight weeks. Every eight weeks, there's a new character. Well, is that the comparison, or is it to a fighting game, or to Street Fighter or so, where it's like, oh, you

have a month or two, in some cases, more or less, depending on what's happening with the with the character. So what I'll say as well is that like it looks like a lot of consideration is going into each character's kit and they're being very, very detail oriented with it. And that means that each character can do a whole lot of cool shit. Like when they showed off what Jinx can do, it's impressive. It's super. She's a super cool looking zoner. Absolutely. With a lot of cool shit, like when they showed off what Jinx can do, it's impressive. She's a super cool looking zoner with a lot of rad shit put into it. I bet most players would be satisfied with a little bit less to get a little bit more when it comes to

that. Right? With a perhaps... Not that a perfectionist... If someone has a perfectionist attitude then you want to make sure you really, they have a standard that they want to release to. That is to say the what the average person is happy with might not necessarily apply. But if if there was a compromise to be made there, I feel like that would be it. Okay, so I have like a wide variety of thoughts on that. And I have spent some time in League. I'm not a League player, right, but I've spent time in League. League characters are not super complex. What they are is many.

There's lots of them, right? And I'm seeing that they have, like, so they said, hey, there's only going to be 10 characters, but we're up to like six fuses now, which is like a groove. It's a gameplay variation on how the character would play. So the first thing that I noticed is that now every character build. Sorry. I just realized people might misinterpret what I said. I think most people would want more characters in exchange for a little less polish is what I'm trying to say. Absolutely. But yeah, no, I get that. Just to clarify. Go ahead.

Yeah. So I think we're up to six fuses, which is like a groove Okay So now what I'm hearing is that every single character they make they have to balance around six different modes for that character Not one like in Street Fighter or Tekken or Virtua Fighter, but six That's a lot. They have given themselves a lot of work to make a new character Not busted second of which, hey man, you know, there's only 10 characters, but each character can be seen six different characters. Do they look different? No. Do they have different moves? No. Oh, but I would rather they have zero

fuses and six times as many characters like Marvel versus Capcom because this is a League of Legends game. A property defined primarily by having an enormous roster. Like that is the number one thing about League is that it has a gigantic roster. Not that it's super deep, but that there's a million characters. And amongst those characters. It's totally inverted in importance. And while you've got different archetypes here, definitely when we talk about the importance

of some good old freak picks, you know, for the appeal, it sounds like league has a giant roster of 170 freak picks and regular humans to choose from So you know my phone and I went to the League of Legends character website And I told him to put his finger on it and just swipe as hard as he could Mm-hmm, and he landed on a page that was one normal human and three freaks. And then he did it again and landed on one normal human and three freaks. The roster is caked with freaks. I always remember though when we looked at that list of like popular in North America versus popular in Asia and seeing like the freaks are not popular in Asia.

You know, like we have a localized preference. We want freaks out here in the West not not international but um So so this is yeah, obviously I think like you know You have this is like this is an example of like things are not obviously going according to plan with the timing on that and and here's Go ahead. I have to stop you there was one thing, because you were saying you would prefer less characters but more polish? No.

And you know what? That's not what I said. No, no. Sorry. Many would prefer less characters but with more polish, right? That's no. I said the opposite. I said most would prefer less polish for more characters.

More characters with less polish. Yes. Okay. Sorry. I am getting to the... Sorry. However, they're saying, but hey, look, our characters are super, super, super polished. Right? And that's true, except for the fact that on the last Alpha Lab, the Ari assist shit

was wildly out of fucking control. And with a character roster of 10, like, we can't be sitting around waiting three months for Ari's assist to get fixed when there's a roster of 10. And that means Ari just becomes the secondary pick in every single fucking match. So kill that game. So the best-cased optimistic half glass full scenario is all of the struggles up to now have been ironed out. And from this point forward after Alpha Lab two, we're going to

be racing towards a production rate that has characters popping out every two months or something like that. Right? And then that's my next question. What is the reasonable, optimal rate of character release for you? Like reasonable, like that you think would be a possibility. So here's, there's two parts to it, right? I feel like there's a rate that would need to be accelerated in order to catch up to an amount people would want to see at launch and then a relaxed rate after that.

Because I saw, I did math on it and I was like, if we do four a year, how long is it going to take? And the answer is it would take like two years to catch up to like X-Men versus Street Fighter. Yeah. Like that's fucking ridiculous. No, I think people would want something like six a year and then

after perhaps two years Then we can then we see that pace, you know relax a little bit. It makes sense Now This is without getting into like the specifics of what they discussed yet But I have to lay of course here's a and these one huge factor that Is on the opposite side of this argument, right? With a cost of free 99 free 99

They are going to be the most competitive free fighting game in the free fighting game space No matter what happens and no matter what no matter what? And this is where I get to a point. I brought up to you at lunch Where what what is what is what is a dead free game look like I don't know? free game look like I don't know you tell me you know what what's what's the business model the business model is aesthetics costumes doodads right yeah like Marvel rivals shutting down the servers obviously after right like Marvel rivals and 2x ko have the exact same business model. Okay. I am looking at a roster of 10.

Do you know what characters I wanna play, Wooly? I wanna play Illaoi and I wanna play Darius. Why are people saying Concord when that costs money? I don't know. They also no longer exist. But yeah, I wanna play Illaoi and Darius. That's pretty, of the existing roster, those are the only two characters I wanna play.

Yep. This means there is a cap of like 15 to 25 dollars that I can spend on that game because I'm going to buy one costume for Darius, buy one costume for Illaoi and that's it. That's it. That is the cap. And here's the other thing now and this is where I hate like you have to get into the balance between expectation versus like, on one hand, you have healthy reasonable expectations for like participating and playing a game and buying stuff in it. And then you have the other hand, you have

entitled, whatever gamer, gimme now, now, whatever. Right. And you're like, okay, so are you going to look at a premium costume and go, I want that premium costume. But if it's one that you don't want, then you go, damn it, that resource should have been spent making a character. And it's like, it's apples and oranges. It doesn't work that way. But you're like, that really cool costume that's a huge overwork visually of everything

with the character should have been a new character. And it's like, it's a huge overwork visually of everything with the character should have been a new character. It's like, it's a trap. So let me tell you right now. It's a goddamn trap. Ari, the fox girl in KEDA is going to have many costumes. Many, many, many, many costumes. Gotta sell. And other characters will have less.

And then you will look at the amount of costumes that Ari has and you're gonna go, you could definitely have cut half of these costumes to make a new character. On a man hour visual level, not on a gameplay or design level. Now, we'll see if they end up doing the, let's roll out a microtransaction suite

that is like fucking constantly pumping cosmetics for people to buy or whatever to keep it making money or so. But I feel like, you know, whereas other free to play games are certainly like quick to get to that point, if I'm not mistaken, Riot has been willing to do things with like Rune Terror and stuff where they're like kind of operating with the game at a loss for a while giving you too much. It currently exists as a single player game. Okay. So that's its current life.

So they're kind of, it seems like they're kind of willing to just put something out, let it take a hit and try to get it to be the number one thing in that genre until they eventually go, all right, well, fuck it. It's not working out. You know? And you know what? That makes sense. But if we get to a version of the world in which 2x KO builds itself up for nine years and then goes into maintenance mode with 12 characters, boo fuckers. Holy shit. You should have released a way way way worse game with 20 characters So yeah times you have to take the pie out of the oven and serve it sometimes you do you know now

We get to have this conversation without the part that goes People paid for something and then like didn't get that and now they feel like they're owed a refund or something Absolutely, right? We're having paid for for the Alpha Lab is our attention. Yeah so so this is currently in that space where it's just like okay we're just operating on interest and goodwill you know. I think it being free will buy it a lot of leeway where this would not have flown for absolutely 100% $80 US it's not Street Fighter 5 right because I bought Street Fighter 5 you bought Street Fighter 5 there were a lot to complain about Street Fighter 5 but with with 2x ko what am I gonna do I to do? I'm going to stream it a bunch when it comes out.

Yeah. And then I'm going to complain a bunch about it to you on the podcast. And at the end of that hour long discussion of 2XKO's problems and how their rollout of new characters isn't long enough, you're going to go, but is it free though? And I'm going to go, yeah. And you're going to do that shrug that you do. Yeah. I'm going to do the shrug that I do. and we're both gonna go, but it's free though! UGH!

Right? Because the thing where any other game at this point where people would be going like fuck this, pre-order canceled, refunding the game or whatever, it's like nothing to refund, you click play now! No you can't, it's free! It's free though! You know? So yes.

You can't refund it? You get away with more when your game is free 99 100% and then and and we expect Microtransactions at that point versus you know being a fully like just like turned off in that regard. I will say that I Want to make a point I played that alpha lab. I think that game is great So I think that we I kind of bury that I think 2x ko is great. So plays great So that's where I wanted to go next is that we front-loaded a lot of the negativity around why 10 characters feels like it's too low For this type of game with that being said the alpha lab 2 video was a crazy one hour

Alright guys, you want to know what we've been up to? Well here we're gonna dump all it. And it's an information overload, you know, which they almost self-described as like it being like passive aggressive, almost to be like, all right, here, let's give you more info than you possibly can handle. And a lot of this, I can handle it. And a lot of the stuff they discussed was some understandable, pretty cool changes, you know? Yeah, something that didn't work the way they wanted it to was the ability for assist characters to just travel across the screen and then wait to see what you did and then essentially either hit you and switch handshake tag to pick up the combo, wait for

you to jump and then jump and grab you or just wait for you to swing at the assist and then you can use your point character to stop them. And they're like, we got rid of that because that made the game not fun. and everyone was just jumping in with Ari and going nuts with that. They also made a big deal to like combos are smaller. Yes. Last time. Yes. Now what they then went on to explain as well which is a pretty huge is the the fuses the grooves if you would they added sidekick and juggernaut. Sidekick is a fucking version that I would like to play.

We have discussed this about getting the whole learning how to play kind of thing in there. If you want to play a support character in League or so, what you have here is a version of the game where one player, your two people plays the point character and then one person is the assist for the entire match. So instead of switching between the two of you actively, you can be somebody who's going to learn how to play just by supporting your friend and having your character jump out to like extend their combos at the right time. And furthermore, you also get to do bracing, it's called, which is as your partner is getting hit, if you press the button, press a button at the same

time as them getting hit, they take less damage. So you soften their damage and that effect teaches you the rhythm of hitting buttons at the right speed or timing. So on defense, while not playing the main character, there's still enough for you to do to get used to how to play the game a little bit, the pace of how it works and how to save your partner. You also have to be responsible on defense for breaking them out of a combo that they're taking damage from, or while they're blocking jumping in and pushing the opponent away to the other side of the screen. This

is all on the support characters job. So there's enough for them to do. And then in exchange for that, the main point character gets a little bit more life and a little bit more meter as well. And if you want to play as just as one person, one character, there's now a juggernaut fuse which is, yep, you're all one character. You've got five bars instead of three and you've got more and you've got more life and more damage and you're just going to go all in on one. It's interesting because a lot of people that, you know, every time we talk about like a, I mean, you've described as well for yourself, games with assists and like hyper games and stuff, it's like hard to get used to using a second character

and when to use them. I really aren't getting used to assists. And I will say that like, so Skullgirls is a game where like you can pick assists or single. I don't think playing a single character in this game will be enough to make up for not having an assist. Probably not. You know, having an assist lets you do so much that I just,

it's gonna be hard to imagine it being competitively strong enough, but who knows? We'll see if they balance it to make it that way. Maybe it'll be like in Capcom versus SNK 2 where you could pick one fucking how-maru that just cuts the shit out of everybody on your opponent's team, you know? But if you are like, okay, I just want to learn

the one character at a time, this is, you know, at least perhaps casually, I would say at the, you know, at the beginning level is probably a decent way to go about doing that. You know, if you're just overwhelmed by having a second character to think about. Something smart about the way they did that too is even when you're just picking by having a second character to think about. Something smart about the way they did that too is even when you're just picking the Juggernaut

one point character, you still pick a second character and they sit as a dead life bar and what that allows is in between rounds, you can hold to switch to your backup character. Yeah, because you're playing King of Fighters now. Instead, you know? So if you were comfortable with your main and you had a second one you were trying out,

you can try that character for round one, and then if you lose, maybe switch to your more comfortable one, and then stay on that, you know, between the beginning of each round. Furthermore, online, if you're two people, you can both be, you can be somebody, you can both be on Juggernaut so that you're watching your friend play

and then he tags you in instead and now you're the full Juggernaut is if you're not doing the support mode thing and then you can basically be on a team of two together. So that basically will help people play together and overall let you squad up, which I've really wanted Fighting Games to do. I gotta take a break in a minute. But I want to just have some final thoughts.

I feel like there's a massive mistake of implied expectations that the 2xKO team was like happy to let go. So League of Legends fighting game. And then they said that it was a tag game. I think it was maybe the most realistic expectation of anything in the world that this game would come out with a large roster to start or at least a normal roster. Right. You said not according to plan, and I totally believe that 100%. But like, I made joke bad rosters for this game after the Alpha Lab made of nothing but humans. And even my joke worst roster ever still had like 18 characters on it. Just like crazy, but more than that more than anything all I can think of is that when I play master Rank Street Fighter, which is not that hard I'm not trying to brag but it's like, you know upper echelon of the rank mode and Street Fighter

I'm really tired of fighting Ken. Mm-hmm I'm just overwhelmingly tired of fighting Ken and that is a roster of 26 people in which Ken is good and happens to be super popular. Because the game is free to play and you will have to unlock certain characters to play them, I am genuinely afraid for a user experience playing 2xKO in which you run into like 180 matches of Darius and Ahri in a row. In a row! Because they're the first characters that are available and they're good. That is terrible. And yeah, and I think you're also describing, I think you're describing top 8 percent.

So don't sell yourself short there. But regardless, the the variety like I remember when I started playing Marvel 3, right, in particular. And I just wanted to pick the three characters I liked and tried to make a team work around that and lost so hard and so bad, so consistently, that I was sad and was like, damn, this just doesn't work.

Synergy matters more. And I eventually had to concede and be like, no, I have to give up on at least one of these two characters to get a useful beam or arrow or projectile. You know? I only like two characters in this roster. If they're both bad or one of them is bad, I'm just not gonna play the fucking game.

Yeah. If Darius and Illaoi are bad at launch, there is no one I want to play that game with. So I don't know, I would love to know how long Rising Thunder took to make, to the point it got to. Well, they got love to know how long Rising Thunder took to make to where it to the point it got to. Well they got six characters so that means it took eight years.

So I'd like to know how the pacing on that went and such just for an idea because now we're not just dealing, because there's two factors here that are clearly happening. One is they have an internal quality metric that's quite high that they are striving for, but then also there is the riot pressure that must be tangible at some point to be like, this has to disrupt and be on the main stage right away. It can't be coming out and being like, congrats, you're doing numbers over MK1 and Unist.

It's gotta be up there with Tekken and Street Fighter. If the game is at EVO and Top 8 is literally the same team eight times, then the game's a joke. And that's a threat when there's only 45 combinations. It is. I think the same thing applies to every fighting game we're discussing today, which is, man, if it drops and it's fun to play, that'll be great.

But I will say that overall, there is that thing where with 2XKO, it could be a slow ass rollout, and maybe people will be like, yeah, I'll check back in when that roster comes along. And then sometime from now it does, you know, but I just, if it continues to exist, but I don't know what the riot time limit has to hit right away. What is it? And we don't know what the right rune Tara didn't. And rune Tara got to live for a year and a half in its, in its competitive state. There's a rumble verse fucking die.

I Ruke I will take the Death Note eyes to see the number above to XKOs head to know how long it has to fucking get there. It has to have a roster of 16 by the end of 2026. Or it's cooked. I think you're being conservative. Oh yeah. Really? Yeah. Six characters between two years from now?

I don't know, because it's going to come out in fall of 25. Okay, okay, okay. From fall 25 to a year and a half. Yeah, I'll give them 14 months to do six characters. I'm still calling that conservative. Yeah, so it does have to be every eight weeks, huh? 20. Yeah. It has to be every eight weeks We got a role, you know, we do need to roll That's hard

And you know what I'm afraid of if they do announce like this is me being a fucking nitpicker to hell if they announce Character every eight weeks and we're gonna like well shit It took you fucking nine years to make these fucking characters and you're banging out these ones in eight weeks shit Are they gonna be like shit like compared to the existing roster? are they gonna like look bad and play bad compared to like Braum and Allawi and Because the answer to your question earlier was like I said I think you need to catch up to where expectations are then you can go with a relaxed pace But the catch-up time frame is like go go go go go go And you know we have an idea of what we've heard about from stuff

about what might be coming, but it's just like, yeah, I really, really hope we can see it deliver what they imply is a good pace after launch. All right, I gotta take a quick break. I gotta pee, and we gotta come back and talk about Nintendo because we only have like an hour and a half left. BRB. All right. I wanted to drop one last thought. Do it.

Drop it like a big turd right in the fucking middle to a scale. I really hope that right in jinx's mouth. Jesus fucking Christ, man. Anyway, she's depressed. You won't even care. I'm just saying, I really hope that like in a year from now, these are all just temporary woes and they're not going to be these issues at the forefront while everyone's just enjoying the game.

But like, I'm thinking of, yeah. Yeah. All right. But I'm thinking of, so Arslan Ash- It's a thought, guys. It's a thought. Arslan Ash made a tweet where he said after he's been, he was very, very vocally upset about Tekken 8 season one. And then like he tweeted out, guys, I think we were too ungrateful for season one. Sad face.

Right? And it was just like, the difference in golf is just like, okay, this is a business as usual upset versus, holy fuck, how did we get here? And it just kind of makes me think, Street Fighter VI really is just currently the best consumer product fighting game? Yeah, we had this discussion and you said that

and I'm like, yeah, you know what my number one complaint about Street Fighter VI is? There's not enough costumes for me to buy. Yeah, like the fact that there's modes, like extreme versus modes and team modes and shit that everyone forgot about means you've already gotten like more than you bargained for there there's there's shit you don't even have to think about with the package right

um and like while previous Smash Brothers games have put out like insane amounts of content as well those games didn't have rollback and they had terrible online so this is the, including the ability to fucking play it and have really good online matches. Yeah, I just kind of like things are going to have to try to aim for what Street Fighter 6 did essentially from here on out. All right.

All right. All right. So the Nintendo Direct happened at the ass end of yesterday, a couple days ago morning, was way too early. Fuck you, Nintendo. Fuck you, you pieces of shit. 6 p.m. Pacific. That's a pile of fucking bullshit. I waited and watched a bunch of trailers. Yeah, what it did all watching it it live was much better though, because what I did is the end of that fucking presentation, I talked to chat for 10 minutes, then I sprinted to the house, snuck into the bedroom and stole Paige's phone. Then I went downstairs and

turned the internet off to every device that could connect to it. And then said, you gotta get up, you gotta go stream now. And she went, what, why? And I said, the Nintendo Direct was something. And she said, what is it? And I said, it's all things to all people. Get over to the office and fucking stream a reaction. No, I will not give you your phone back

until she promised to not look at it. Really? Wow. You will create React content. God damn, okay. Well, there was a lot there. There was a lot there. Yeah, I would say that, you know,

Nintendo dropping a console announcement with 60 games I think think, were dropped. It's a lot. Was pretty impressive. It's a lot. And it sounds like everyone was super duper thrilled until the price dropped. So yeah, let's talk about the price first. Sure, because there's a whole lot of games.

$450 USD, which turns into 600 Canadian and $80 USD for games, which turns into $110 Canadian. Now, this is really important. I want to say two things to our primarily American audience. There is a certain level of Schadenfreude, Schadenfreude, whatever, the German shit. Schadenfreude. Schadenfreude, seeing Americans go, oh my God, $80 for a video game? That's the number. Welcome to fucking 2013 of my life. That's the number we were screaming at a couple years ago

Okay And yes, I know relative value of the dollar obviously, but it's just it's just funny right and of note and that that was 450 US dollars as of the morning of the direct. Whereas two or three hours later, national economic policy changes came into play that could kick up the price of a Nintendo Switch 2 in the United States to approximately $650 to $700 at retail. Now, I've seen people saying that this is not... I've seen people say that, like, oh, tariffs are not a part of this and that that's a misunderstanding. I'm not an economist,

so I can't get to the bottom of it. But I can say that that doesn't sound right to me because when I see the extra story Which is Japan is getting a Japan only version of the switch that's locked That's way cheaper and locked to language. I go well that doesn't seem to be a thing that would not be affected by tariffs Otherwise, why would they make that right? So I yeah, I a bunch of people go like, no, it's not related. I'm like, I don't know. It seems like it is. But I'm- The global economy is related to the price of things.

Yeah. So, making- The economic times in which we live does affect the prices of things. And I feel like a very clear, like, oh, don't worry. If you are Japanese and live here, you can buy it for a normal price, like, oh, don't worry, if you are Japanese and live here, you can buy it for a normal price like option kind of underlines that point, right? Because of the nature of the back and forth on this, there's the conceivable possibility that at retail, in local dollars, a switch to will cost the same in Canadian as it would in local dollars in the US, which is going

to cause every Canadian town near the border to be flooded on June 5th with sudden American visitors going, Hey man, you got those switch twos? And the answer will be no. No. Yeah, we don't actually. You know, let's let's see. A return to region locking because of the policy is wild. I really thought we were over the best of it. But yeah, and I've seen as well, I saw the live Treehouse thing going for day two or so, clicked it and I just saw like the chat just going, I'm like, yeah, that's about right. There are, there are definitely enough people amongst this that are like, there's a point that I would have been upset at, but you're like, God fucking damn it.

Of course they're going to slowly cook the pot up and turn the, cook the frog in the pot by turning it up point by point. This threshold has blown past people's ability to actually get the console and get the games. Like straight up it is a clear like, no, I cannot participate. So it's this thing, it's like, am I gonna sit here

and go the political realities of our time mean that Nintendo has to charge this much? Of course, that's not what I'm saying. Of course, Nintendo saw increased costs and went, I bet we could juice it just a little bit extra, you know, make a little cut, you know, ride this out and we transfer, you know, manufacturing to Vietnam to dodge some of these costs. And whoops, that was actually a really fucking terrible idea. Holy shit. All of a sudden, wow. Wow. Holy fucking shit. All of a sudden that

Asus Microsoft Game Pass box maybe seems like it has a place. Right. But yeah, no, you can't possibly ignore the economic realities of our time in various nations as a result of the increased prices of these things. And I genuinely believe that that 450 figure is going to be the MSRP from Nintendo to Best Buy USA. I don't think Best Buy USA, the people that would have to pay the increased cost to import, are going to eat a fucking 40% surcharge on an imported electronic and sell it below cost. I think I saw consumers. I saw a bunch of people making memes that are just like Nintendo, like roping themselves

while this was Sony and Microsoft sit on the side and stay winning or PC stay winning or so and I'm like, you fucking idiots. These pieces are all built in the same countries. If a new PlayStation 6, if we were discussing a PlayStation 6 announcement, you don't think it would be even more insane? You don't get that this is all relative?

Oh, you know who's really sweating right now? You know who is sweating their ass off right now? Do you remember two years ago when we were told the next Xbox is going to be the most powerful console ever created in the history of the medium, i.e. the most expensive PC in a box ever released. So if they were planning to send that out at six or seven hundred that thing's gonna cost 1200 fucking dollars. That's what I'm fucking freaking out like like it's a level of stupidity to just be like it's just Nintendo It's like no no no no like

699 Right back in the day was that wild number when this was that was the company just deciding its price point Throw on the cost of a fucking new console with that level of like greed on it while also Doing tariff damage. Yeah, cuz we have you're flying above a thousand dollars So we just throw the cost on plus the new cost the investors want like it's it's it's insane. So yeah, um That is you can't afford this. We'll be playing these games on stream. So don't worry about it, but just that is that is Across the globe, you know um

Just switch to pc gaming what you think the fucking semiconductors in a fucking nvidia card are going to be safe from Worldwide economic calamity? Well, you switch to the thing you currently have. Do you currently own it? You know, a buddy of mine in discord just like an hour ago said it's called the switch to because you switched to a more affordable hobby yeah yeah yeah um i mean jesus christ with the fucking nvidia shit in on top of it uh yeah you know it's it's um anyway i i saving all of that for the treehouse post direct thing i guess was probably the right move because like in the thing themselves, they're like, we're currently eyeing the tariff situation and we'll let you know because we don't fucking know how this is going to shake out.

Anyway, nobody, nobody foresaw this level of tariff. So it was difficult to plan. I bet that if they knew these numbers were coming, we would have looked at a different base price. And honestly, if they knew this was coming a couple years ago, we would have looked at a different base hardware. Exactly, exactly, right? Nintendo's in an extra weird place because they always sit in the pocket, never dropping their prices, but also coming in below the level of the other competition to be like,

no, we're doing our own thing, And we can be a little bit more affordable, but we're gonna offer you a little bit less and you're just gonna buy it because you know the characters you wanna see. And like here that's coming in. They're coming in first and hot on this new world we live in. Who knows how things will go,

but if they are the way they are now, any new releases and consoles and hardware announcements will follow suit. My main thing is that yelling at Nintendo to drop the price is cathartic. It feels good, but ultimately useless because part of the realities of why they set those prices Have nothing to do with them. Some of them is they want the money and they don't drop their prices because they want the money But the world changed around them. Keep your eyes suddenly actually Keep your eyes on anything else from Japan that you buy and see how that goes And yeah, and then also

this kind of just is like, well, Toby Fox is out here being nuts, you know, like he just doesn't care. Of course he is. Of course he is. Yeah, just that's that's what that is, you know? Okay, so in terms of the actual thing, well, let's start with the exciting, the Duskbloods. Motherfucker. The one that caused everyone to become tails from the seminal work, Tails Gets Trolled.

I mean, just fine. You don't wanna make Bloodborne? God, I'm freakin' soaked. How about I smudge the fuckin' name off it and just write it in with marker? Oh man. The just- Crazy.

Sony sitting in the in the cuck chair while Nintendo and and FromSoft as the wife are like are you sure it's okay? You know just it is um. As Sony desperately tries to find the key to its chastity belt. I mean... Oh no, I think I threw it out with those papers. So I will say this, this is a bit of a Night Rain situation though, because the scope seems to be smaller than we might think.

Yeah, it's a player versus player versus environment multiplayer game. Which like Night Rain, is, you know, I'm thinking of as well the other, whatever, the mash-mack mode of the mecha breakdown I just played. But yeah, what you're getting there is you're getting, okay, so that trailer starts off with the hands and the thing and you're like from soft voice acting, from soft direction, sure enough. And you're like, cool, it's vampires, and that's a dinosaur, and that's a jet pack,

and those are guns. My brain, even as I speak to you right now, keeps calling it the Pale Bloods. I kept calling it Duskborn for an entire day, just so I can fact that that's not the name of the game. No, I can't stop thinking Pale Bloods. It's just locked in, you know. But yeah, if this is in fact going to be a game that is mainly about going into

multiplayer sessions with up to eight players, and then your two teams of eight while there's a boss to deal with and you can deal with each other as well. It's going to be much smaller in scope. It's not going to be a big, large lore mise-en-scene to the full nth degree, you know, Souls entry. It's going to be one of these kind of side things. But I'm sure, you know, Nintendo was proper happy to have that exist. And I kind of wonder, is this being funded like Bayo was in the back, you know, to where they just said, make us our own blood board? Or else it would be on everything.

We'll see. Or else it would be on everything. Yeah. I just know that I'm like timed exclusive sometimes happen, whatever. But if that's Nintendo just going like, do it, do what they won't do, then sure. It still like would not fully scratch the itch as a proper full ass from soft souls entry but hey man I'll take it it'll probably be cool yeah and I and I think that's why the releases that we've seen from them it's

like oh that's why they can put out this many is because like they're made they're going into smaller you know multiplayer focused releases, you know? Also, um... I feel like there's a... A Japanese man out in Osaka... Working at Capcom. Watching this trailer, going... Yo, what the fuck?! People love this dinosaur shit, but they don't show up for Exo Prime All! PVP!

It's the same thing! PVPV dinosaurs, goddammit! We did it first! Why are you... What is the it first was different cuz it's from software what people like Capcom games You don't get it man you see that fucking jetpack we had a jetpack see that I see that jetpack we had a jetpack Anyway, um so that's cool. Mario Kart World? As I was watching- I watched the Treehouse shit this morning. Oh yeah?

It's, it's, whoa. Yeah? Okay. It's gonna be, it's gonna be fucking good, man. It's gonna be a good Mario Kart game. Because I had to say, as I was watching the trailer like the first Half of it. I had that thing where I was like kind of like the last one. So I'm like, yeah, I Loved me some Mario Kart. I enjoyed this series thoroughly back in the day, but I think it's kind of passed me by

It'll definitely continue to be something that if it's on at a friend's place and it's going on I'll be down for it or hell I'll be down to throw it on if people are over. But in terms of like, actively going and I'm like, I'm kind of just a little over it. They may burn out paradise into a Mario Kart game. And then they swerved off the track and went actually go any and I'm like, Oh, wait, hold on, hold on. When they just swerved off and went anywhere. I was like That's pretty good Let me look at you and your ocular sockets. Yeah ready. I have an almost two-year-old

Okay, mm-hmm Mario Kart world best game ever made Yeah, sure like sure straight like straight up best game ever made It wasn't until I saw until I saw that part that I was interested if it was like just another new update to the franchise I was like, okay. Yeah, we know that's cool. But That that certainly got an interest point there And then what Donkey Kong bonanza? Uh, yeah sure cool run it looks I watched the the the preview of it this morning. Hey, guess what? It looks incredible shout outs to the edit on triple Q's channel. I think it's red faction gorilla

Just breaking through the ground and throwing shit and just yeah, Donkey Kong is great. Donkey Kong is too strong for the planet He's a threat. He's an existential threat Looks amazing looks like what? The whole 64? Going back in the day where, you know, what a proper 3D Donkey Kong should have been. Looks cool. The Welcome Tour, which is bafflingly-

Meemood got his wish. Now that Reggie Fisame is gone- Incredible. And can't tell him to include Wii Sports. Shout outs to Gene Park. Miyamoto can be like, no, they're going to buy the fucking demo. Gene went and dug up the article where Reggie Fisame begged Miyamoto to make Wii Sports free and he didn't want to because he did not believe that anything that they worked

hard on should be given away for free. And it's like, what was Reggie right about that? Boy. Oh my God. Well, he convinced them because it's a new technology and he thought like, Oh, we'd need to convince people what this new thing is and give him an idea. And it's so crazy cause I'm like, what happened to the Mario and Duck Hunt Nintendo? You know, it's like 50 years ago. Yeah. And when people saw a game included with the Wii, they remembered that and went, that's cool. I bet Miyamoto was pissed off about that in fucking 86.

Way back when. This is fucking bullshit. I distinctly remember how friends of mine and family were legit like, cool, there's this good game that it comes with and then from there you can pick what else to get You know the attachment right stress station, and it didn't come with a game of my parents were like what the fuck I got a bunch of demo discs with my magazines. You know yeah So this is a guide around the switch and it's going to be cool $80 USD

Yeah, I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure it should really be included it's ridiculous that it's not especially since it's like learn about the console You know yeah, no, it's ridiculous the astrobot thing was free If they just came out and said the game is free, but you have to pay the cost of the tariffs, then that would have been one. Yeah. Specifically, um, uh, motherfucking Kirby air riders. And the moment it says director, I'm like, Oh, you're hanging too long for it to be anyone else. Right. And it's like, Hey, why are they releasing Mario Kart world? And then like three months later, air riders, isn't that some racing game overlap? And all I can think of is Sakurai was like, I will only work for you

again if you let me make another Kirby air riders game. Right. He got exactly what he wanted because he was ready to chill right into the sun. And they will, they will allow him to make the Air Riders game, and afterwards he will have his arms replaced with spikes and get right on to making the new Smash. Well, at least he gets a chance to fucking just mentally reset and come back at this thing. Because I hope that whatever Smash does next is a change.

I think the change that Smash Brothers needs to make is to add 25 more characters. I hate it, I hate it so much. It's so upsetting. We got Hyrule Warriors, Age of Imprisonment. Great, that looks good, fine. And Dusk X Drive, which is cool. Wheelchair basketball looking like fucking, what's it called? Soccer cars.

Yeah, all dope. I mean, Kirby Air Riders in particular, I just fucking shit's gonna be bad. We've got Switch 2 versions of existing games. We've got We've got a lot of performance patches that have been announced diamond X Machina games Tiant Titanic Scion looked rad as shit. It did look good I hope it doesn't have so much story in it because the statement X Machina story was terrible and my thought to here's extra confirmation that like the pale the Duskbloods god damn it is going to be a kind of you know side serving is that they're properly

porting Elden Ring as a whole to be like here's your major single player adventure that you want. By the way to folks in the chat who are saying paid patches for the performance stuff some games on the switch to are are gonna get updated versions that have new stuff And that's how they're gonna convince people to pay for them many games are just gonna get patched to just work better on the switch Too there's a list of them out right now. Yes more coming No, the it's a whole confusing mess, but there's a bunch of those games You can transfer ownership over to the two and then just boot it on the two version work better without the paid upgrade, right?

And then what did we see Delta rune chapters one to fucking four on launch? two three four which I was waiting for my wife to see that announcement and she took that announcement like a gun to her head because Delta Rune 1 and 2, we were talking about this, Delta Rune 1 and 2 were a million years ago. We lived in a different place in a different house. We were not married. We did not have a child. So Delta Rune Chapter one came out. You know what we did when Delta Rune Chapter

one came out? 2018 and 2021. God damn. We did when Delta Rune chapter 1 came out. Hmm We've went okay and ran down to the basement and started streaming like 30 minutes later Yeah, you know what we blew through it in a single fucking maybe we're married for the second one, but I can't 2021 probably When we when Delta rune chapter 2 came out, you know what we did? We went, okay, and ran down to the basement and fired it up and did the whole thing in one shot.

Holy shit. I didn't. Now. Yeah. Deltarune 3 and 4. Oh, we have to plan a whole week around this. We have to purge our social medias. We have to like it's it's like a fucking to do. Mm hmm. Yeah, same here, you know, going through it with with punch mom. I did not feel like Deltarune one was 20 was six years ago. It was 20 years ago. Holy shit. I mean, if that's the way you can make your Undertale follow-up piece by piece, that's cool. And four to seven will come later. But the feeling that I did not have just now is the magic of this being released in chapters

every three years, I guess, right? Well, so chapter one, two, three, four are gonna come out on June 5th and five, six, and seven are gonna be downloads which means that what you will get is the same experience you had for every chapter of Deltarune is hey, guess what, Shithead, it's out! Or is out in two weeks or the month or what like yeah just shadow dropping every single part of it and I get it because obviously Undertale was a long huge in the making moment that you don't know how that's going to get received you know but now that you're in the shadow of that and everyone's looking, you can't go about

it the same way or you can and then you get your little silk song drop in that montage. 2025, it was there. No one can say it wasn't. Enter the Gungeon 2 is 3D. Bro. So I had to switch from the US stream to the UK stream because it was really behind. It was like five seconds behind in audio. Like the audio was desynced. So I switched over and I fucking squealed. That's an art.

Piggy. That's an art style that I that can make the jump and still keep the charm. I think. Yeah, for sure. I fucking love Enter the Guns N Man. I don't remember if I already knew this or forgot and forgot, but I.O. working on a 007 game sounds pretty interesting. Yeah, absolutely. I'd like to see if it has that element to it where instead of just being like a first person shooter or something like that, if it's much more spy based. Well, I mean, it's IO, you know.

Precise. It's IO, so that makes perfect sense, right? Because of the gadgets and the traps. Exactly, the hope is that. And the goofy shit. Just make a Hitman game and just fucking call it? 007 and just have some of the objectives not be murder Well, I was gonna say cuz like that's it

47 is just often people left and right and bond is too But he's got to be you know like sleeping with them first and so on so You know what looks fucking dope and I? Marvel cosmic invasion it does it looks fucking great it looks super cool you know what doesn't look fucking dope Nintendo deciding to empower you in your fucking weirdo controller bullshit with their joy con and a mouse setup being built into their fucking console it's not my fault that the world finally caught up.

Disgusting. Damn, wow. Disgusting. Who knew? Me? Couldn't be. It's not like I'm prophetic or anything. Also, the Joy-Cons have hall effect sensors for the analog sticks.

Yeah, they lock in and you don't have springs to fucking wear off, which is great. That should just become the standard Boy squinting and looking at that Street Fighter 6 default layout on one joy con is insane It's like it's like okay. You've got two lights two mediums You got heavies up here and then drive impact and parry and then click do no click R3 for DI and crazy Oh god, I really really hope no one needs me to Drive rush cancel any buttons Just tiny little little little stick

But yeah, that's gonna come with its own wacky switch modes And then What else did we see there? Yeah, just ports of other stuff. Yeah, there was a port of a game called Silksong that was announced for this year and they just skipped past it like it wasn't important. I think too as well they made a point to say like, hey, look, we're getting Cyberpunk, we're getting Elden Ring, we're getting FF7, so real games are here, guys. We can do it. We're powerful enough, right? It's like anything current gen can show up here. So it'll be fine until the next gen gets jumped into.

Yeah, absolutely. Then we're fucked. So now that we've done our bit and skipped past it like the Nintendo Presentation did did it not feel like an act of ridiculous violence to throw a three-second clip of silk song in the sizzle reel For the 2025 release date. Um my brain thought of what what my brain filtered it I thought I saw colors blur across the screen and then I had a seizure and woke up and the rest of it like I looked At it and and like I did my eyes bug out of my head and before I could even speak I was like it was gone like I know big yeah, it's a zero come on like I thought I saw silk song

But it was just Randy Pitchford in a suit Yucking it up and a bad toupee And then Nintendo put out a tweet that said, um, show, Hey, it's coming to the switch to this year, 2025. And then the team cherry guys retweet it. But, but notably did not make any announcements or responses of their own, Which I think is because Microsoft has to advertise it as a Game Pass game, which makes me think that this is maybe the worst deal and what's ever taken. I'm strongly considering starting a bit where I pretend this game does not exist from this point forward.

Yeah, even like you can stream it and just be like, it's weird. It's a shame Sulk song never came out. Like I don't even know what you're talking about. Like you can stream it and just be like it's weird. It's a shame. Sox song never came out Like I don't even know what you're talking about change change the the titles like of like the uploads to like Hollow Knight 2 Is that only? Is anyone else seeing this weird thing where the game title is just not showing up on twitch? I don't know what the fuck is going on Yeah, so and then you know a bunch of other stuff thrown in there and and so on but I think Metroid Prime 4 is a rad ass thing that we got to see a

little bit more of earlier in the week as well. Yeah hey new suit looks sick psychic powers for the whatever new gimmick to do things Okay, sure. No problem run it. I don't care like Whatever, you know dumb new like accessory ability or you know, you know Metroid game. Hell, yeah Yeah, and since I've gotten dread the other day and that 2D need is out of my system, I'm super game for some priming. Absolutely. Let's yuck it up.

Let's have some fun. Can't wait for fucking just essentially any of those physics puzzles from playing first person puzzle games for the last 10 years are finally gonna be like ooh Sam is slide the block and put the square into the square And then unlock the chozo path. Did you put the star in the star? Cool Anyway cool stuff good music all fine. You see Nintendo deciding to reinvent discord You know what man they're trying they're giving it a shot when beforehand they were like we pretend we do not see it so I'll tell you what I'll tell you what will a

fucking whatever I saw I saw an incredible tool for content. That's what I saw. Hey, Wooly, you want to play Mario Kart on stream together? Yeah, cool. All right. Here's me on Wooly's stream in the corner and Wooly on Pat's stream in the corner with a terrible quality camera. The worst fucking, again, Discord filtering out the background level green screen bullshit happening, you know Hey, man, but yeah, press the C button for the content Now at least you can chat with friends and have shit happen now as opposed to the past when it was like, okay

Did you turn your keys at the same time? Have you can't wait to have you in and just just have the camera focused on some dude's fucking dong. Oh, just spread cheeks. You know, absolutely. Which, you know what? I'll take that if the trade off was send each other your social insurance numbers and add those to your friend account. Yeah.

Yeah, absolutely. 100%. 100%. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 100%. 100%. Yeah, all right. Somebody asked in the chat how long until someone spreads their asshole right into the camera. They've done that at Nintendo. They're testing it now. They're trying to figure out an algorithm that detects asshole. How do we make sure, how do we catch it while the green screen is happening behind it. And it has the auto noise filtering crisp tech

as well. So it's an invidious thing. So it's the stuff that we've been using. So yeah, but like when bad background shit starts going off, you also start sounding like shit as well depending on how high pitched it is. Also we've discovered that the noise cancellation removes Paige's voice from all recordings. If it's trained to your voice then yes. Okay so the default setting, interesting. When I turn the Nvidia thing on if Paige is anywhere but sitting directly in front of this microphone, it just removes her completely. Is she a vampire? Something about her voice registers to technology as noise. As noise to be ignored. Like, ooh, filter that.

Yeah, no, no, you don't need, ah, no, ooh. Hey! Oh no, you don't need. Oh no. Hey, oh no, you can't even hear her saying hey in the background there. It's gone. Absolutely. Yeah, exactly. I know it's crazy. No, people who watch the streams in which I had that on can vouch. Like it would, she would be visible in the background and she would be being actively erased. and she would be being actively erased. That's great. That's solid. Good bit. Anyway, yeah, so that's pretty much all there was too, and I suppose I didn't check out much beyond the treehouse extras though. Did they get into anything else interesting after the fact? They showed off Donkey Kong. They showed off a lot of Mario Kart World, they showed off Metroid.

Oh, a special note for the GameCube games coming back. Oh yeah, Soul Calibur 2 GX. Everybody in the whole world just losing their mind at Soul Calibur 2. It's weird to see- I'm glad. That's really cool that that's included, same for F-Zero GX. It's weird that Wind Waker is going to be there when there's an upgraded wind waker That you can play on the switch you can't came out the other day

That's that's a weird one. But that's a Wii U game man. Yeah, I know but that's that's what I'm saying, right? It's just like if I wanted to go back might as well just fucking you know, I really fucking think is genuinely incredible They are releasing a special a Nintendo switch to GameCube controller so you can play your GameCube games. And then they were like, we should really put a fighting game on this GameCube backwards compatibility roster. Let's make sure that it's a fighting game that people want and will want to play. That's right.

Soul Calibur 2 is a game that people are going to itch to play with their GameCube controller on their Nintendo Switch 2. And that's the only one that will ever show up. There is a fighting game that they technically own completely that they will ever, ever put on that shit. I wonder, I wonder if they will concede that point eventually. Because I think it's trapped behind glass and it's directly antithetical to selling copies of Ultimate. However- I totally just, I think the melee community while loud and ever present and smelly is

actually in a numerical sense incredibly small. Like a raw worldwide numbers sense, very small. And they will never ever ever like sabotage the new Smash ever. I'll see you and I'll raise you. I think, I think, I think a version, cause they went back and they added multiplayer to GX as well, right? Right big deal. I bet you melee with upgraded multiplayer Exists inside Nintendo's offices and they went no I Bet you that project exists in a folder somewhere it ought to build I you know

Someone worked on it at some point. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah All right, well, we'll see how that comes along I Think if Nintendo could go to your house and snap your melee disc snap your melee disc. They would. Like genuinely. They said there's two USB-C ports, top and bottom, and then they showed the dock. Dude, that's like such a no big deal feature. It is so awesome. It's really nice. It's so awesome. It's really nice to not have to choose between power and accessory and a camera now, I guess, but that's why it's there.

But also you don't have to argue with the designer post buying the thing of like, oh, I wish the port was on the top. Man, I wish the port was on the bottom, depending on where you're sitting and where your plug is. Yep. Did we see another net cable? It's part of the dock. Great. Great. Ethernet cable's part of the dock great great when our net cable is part of the dock wonderful

Cool yeah, okay And there's an audio jack in the controller. Oh Sick is it a headphone jack or is it a yes? It's a headphone jack 16. I Don't know what okay Because like a headphone jack because there's a tiny one and then there's a standard size and like I'm you know it's a standard size Okay, sick great and the pro controller comes with extra buttons on the back that you can map to anything in any game turn That's right shit off Immediately turning off those paddles. I hate paddles. I can't because my eye

No, I fat hand grip I can't I can't hold on hold on hold on hold on I want to ask you a legitimate question. Yep, and I don't want you to roll your eyes because it's not something you usually do Yeah, that's okay When you are playing Call of Duty mm-hmm, and you want to reload and jump without pulling your thumb off the analog stick and you don't have paddles What do you do? Understood. Okay, they're not for me. I hate them that that that is that is the reason for those got it every game I play ever I always hate them. I need them off the controller

I accidentally hit them too often and I've played with them when they first came out on the elite Xbox 360 controller or whatever, the black one, and then that shit was terrible and then I got them again. They're on the PS5 DualSense special and they're just the worst and I take them off because I always hit them accidentally. So that, that is. If you guys are out there and you're like, well, you know You don't grip it as hard and that's not an issue for you. That's awesome I wish I had your hands but for me, it's just an it's a non-starred be delicate man. It's a non-starter I cannot play a video game with the paddles on the back like that

So like that is a design element that was created for a genre and it just happens to be the most popular genre fortnight Call of Duty fortunately on both the 360 Elite or Xbox Elite and DualSense whatever. Yeah, you can actually just pull them off. They come right off so it's never been an issue. I've taken them off, put them away and it's not a problem whatsoever. But yeah, it's like not even when I'm not death gripping because I know that sometimes I do when in a stressful like thing or whatever, like that's the way I respond to things if I'm, you know, stimulus is happening. Even if I take a moment to actively be like, hold it lightly, my hands are still resting in such a way worth feeling secure. It's accidentally triggering

sometimes my fingers just do, you know? People's hands are different, man. You know? Yeah, it just doesn't work for me. So this, I'm holding a PlayStation 5 controller in my hand. This is my favorite controller ever. No question. Like, absolutely no question. I love this fucking thing. Hall effect sensors on the Pro Controller for the analog sticks and these back buttons, I might switch to Nintendo Switch 2 controllers for everything on my PC. Interesting. Oh, for Bluetooth connection purposes.

Because I want those things. And I've been playing Pro Controller with Monster Hunter GU lately, and that Pro Controller, the Nintendo one, is solid. It is a solid game. Yeah. I've gotten you I've gotten pretty used to the dual sense was my standard right now. I'll have to see how this feels before switching it up. I also hate them on the back of the the the the steam deck as well.

And in fact, whenever I can, I like using the Steam Deck with a controller in the USB, you know? I much prefer a better controller than using the default side stuff. Those don't feel as good to me. Okay. Let's take some emails. Hey, if you want to send in an email, send it to castlesuperbeastmail.com. That's castlesuperbeastmail.gmail.com.

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All right, we got one coming in. Hey, Iron, Woolly, and Pat-Man. I've been playing a lot of Marvel rivals and I noticed a weird reaction within the community regarding costumes. Sometimes a skin releases and people complain that it's too similar, waste of money, and dev time. For example, people complained that the Insomniac Spidey suit

was another boring red and blue suit, or the Insomniac Spidey suit was another boring red and blue suit, or the MCU Moon Knight skin was another white suit with a hooded cape. I can totally understand that. My theory is that these people don't really engage with the superhero comic book stuff and are coming from other games like Overwatch. Characters that are original to that game, they can go wild with skins and redesigns, while Rivals is based off of decades of characters with iconic designs and color schemes with slight variations, so those skins are made for fans

for those specific versions, like the Insomniac suit. That's absolutely true. Yeah. I mean, shit, there's the Flash Thompson Venom. Well, there's the Space Knight Venom outfit, right? And then there's the new one as well that's like, again, the military look, and it has a little bit more symbiote to it, but they kind of have the similar energy. And I mean, the new one looks a lot cooler, but yeah, these details

make a huge difference for years of legacy and you for caring about that. Of course, look at the Spider-Man suits in the Spider-Man game, right? Um, yeah. Do you have other examples of things that are like that? I guess where it's easy to tell apart old fans versus new in their demands. Um, I saw S V C chaos and it's easy to tell apart old fans versus new in their demands. I saw- Yeah, when you play SVC Chaos and it's got fucking 10 Shoto's on there and go, but they're all different and like, shut up. Put a different type of character in there, you fucking freak. No.

I don't give a shit that they're all technically different. Rio's how Shokoken, you know, you do the extra input and then his regular Shokoken fades out a few steps in front of him. By the way, I want to respond to the emails, like texts particularly, in that I completely understand what they mean by specific comic runs having specific looks, even if they're similar to other looks. I totally agree with the people that you are describing. If you are putting out new costumes for purchase, they should all look different from other

existing costumes. There are 400 million Spider-Man costumes. Do not make two that look the same. So, okay, I disagree with you there. I think that there's legacy shit that's important, that's based on popularity of a particular thing. I think, though, you should put them in an order that allows for the most variety, right?

So, if you wanna put your X-Men in their bright yellow and blues, and then you want to get their black leather old movie outfits, and then you want to go with their, you know, days of future past outfits, make a rotation where you get the unique and the classics kind of out of the way so that you don't put too back-to-back that are too similar, right? Yeah. But if you're going to work in shit that is classic, kind of out of the way so that you don't put too back to back that are too similar, right? But if you're going to work in shit that is classic, you're going to have to eventually

get those similar ones in. And I think it's fine, just space them out. So I think a really good example of both of these is Spider-Man 1 and Spider-Man 2. Spider-Man 1 has an incredibly varied selection of classic costumes and a bunch of new ones. And then Spider-Man 2 responding to complaints about the costume selection in Spider-Man 1 put in like every single variation of every movie suit and it takes up like half of all total costumes and it's fucking terrible. So you have like all the Raimi suits and all the amazing Spider-Man suits all in a row in a row of like 10 and movie nerds and fucking weirdo go see I wanted

the one with the slightly different black lattice on the red like, oh my God, who gives a shit dude? Well, they do right and the reason why and the problem is that like instead of doing what I just described, they've prioritized the MCU. And so Moon Knight has a new outfit that's like hood and cape and it and it's a variation of the default, but it's the one from the show. And so when they have it available, it says Marvel Studios Moon Knight with the show logo, or this cap that looks kinda like Chris, you know?

Like they have the slight variations there that they wanna push as the priority. Definitely going for variety and uniqueness, I think is, yeah, the way forward with that. I have the opinion that on like MOBO rules for costumes is that recolors should be dirt cheap, minor alterations should be half price, and full scale complete model reworks should be full price. So when I see Moon Knight from the MCU, which is really similar to his default, that thing should cost like $2.

So you know what's interesting? What you're describing is essentially the difference between colors and costumes in like a fighting game. But we don't do colors in proper hero shooters, right? The costume is the costume is the brand and that's everything. But absolutely there being color variations would be a big deal here. I think as well at the very least, the more popular the character, the more you're going to see all those little subtle variations.

Spider-Man is fucking Spider-man. It's right I don't know if you've known the people care about spider-man. I have a big old spider-man doll at the house It's my baby's favorite doll. Yes We go do you want to kiss spider-man and he runs over to a gigantic baby size spider-man and picks him up It goes one one one Bucky's outfits are not gonna be as diverse and in his numerous as spider-man. He's gonna get a couple distinct ones Yeah, how many different looks has the winter soldier had? three Yeah

You know yeah, so that that's just gonna be the case for the high profile characters because there's a ton of money to make there You know what if you go to Street Fighter 5 and look at all those Chun-Li costumes There's a whole lot of similar overlap in those two Yeah, but I need to goon. I remember one of the mods I saw for DMC5 on PC was, we made Dante's coat bright red again. That was it. I'm like, damn. Yeah, okay. Great. I know exactly. I get it. I super get it. The dark leather is like, I know the realistic look, but yeah. Great. I know exactly. I get it. I super get it. I don't, you know, the dark leather is like, I know the realistic look, but yeah.

No. Yeah. Don't hate that one. All right. Let's take one over here from, let's see, no name given. Hello. Oh, King Plant says, hello, Fortress Ultra Monsters. Was talking to my friends about an MMO we play with terrible acronyms.

Combat power abbreviated to CP determines your ratioing which can increase by training your EI resonance points aka ERP. So you must erp to get CP. What are the worst acronyms you've heard in games or in general? CP is the worst ever. Yeah, completion points in Yakuza are the absolute worst. Every single game that uses the acronym CP needs to stop. Extremely unfortunate with that one. But on just a peeve level, I will never not get upset every time I see fighting EX layer abbreviated as Fexel.

It's the most infuriating thing. The original game it was based on was called Fighting Layer. All they had to do was call it Fighting Layer EX. The acronym would have been FLEX, but instead it's F-E-X-L. I'm going to give a shout out to our boys over at Riot and that 2XKO is still a god awful name and launching with a terrible roster is distracting from your god awful name. It's still terrible as fuck. I have started completing in my brain double cross knockout for copian purposes. I'm like it's

double cross knockout. I saw I saw an interview in which someone said well we want people to call it 2X for short and it's like it's already an acronym for Street Fighter. Why are you calling it? Why are you short? What the fuck? Super Turbo Street in Japan is called 2X. Yeah.

Which, but that almost made me go, oh, it's deliberate because they're old school fighting game fans and they wanted to hit on that acronym. I think there's a part of it that was like going for that almost. All right, and proxy Fox says hello Oh, hold on We got somebody got picked up by automod for incredibly obvious reasons because there is a highly customizable

Model kit girls produced by Koto Bukia Named the frame arms girls. Oh uh named the frame arms girls oh dude street fighter alpha generation yeah when Street Fighter Alpha the movie came out there was that a second animated movie called Street Fighter Alpha Generations. We saw that and lost our collective shit.

For a couple years actually because wow what a bad idea. Can't talk about it nowadays. That's the name of it. Don't call that thing. Don't do that. That's bad. Every time you have ever heard anyone on the best friends in the old videos or me You recently that described it. We literally always call it alpha generation street fighter alpha generations to just

Yep, the full armor Gundam is in fact the full armor Gundam. That's true. It is the full armor Gundam every time every single time All right one over here from Proxy Fox who says, no way Street Fighter Alpha Generations. Hello, Fort Mediocre Mammal. It's not a good movie either. No, no. The best part of the movie is when he just beats the fucking shit out of Sakura. Hadoken beams slicing through Akuma's junk while undead Chinese ghost armies attack. Yeah, well, you know. A couple of weeks ago, Pat was talking about wyvern milk as a plot line in Monster Hunter Wilds

and how much it sounded like they were talking about super powered monster jizz. Well, in Japanese, the word for cow milk is gyu-nyu, right? like they were talking about super powered monster jizz. Well in Japanese, the word for cow milk is gyu-nyu, right? So that's what milk is called in Japan. In Monster Hunter Wilds, the Japanese word for wyvern milk is ryu-nyu. So it's combining the words dragon and milk, ryu and nyu.

This innocent pun became something that sounds really gross because there's no way to translate the pun into English. It sounds like shit in English. God damn it. All the cutscenes sound gross. That makes so much sense. It's just a cute little pun. Instead of RU NU, it's RU NU. Any other? So this batch of emails is stop using the acronym CP,

stop calling things Street Fire Alpha Generations, and check what types of milks foreign audiences use in their day-to-day lives. Or at the very least, find out what milk can mean Colloquially or otherwise like they talk to the translation guys and then like how does this sound and it's up to it's the responsibility Of translation guy to go that sounds like shit. You shouldn't call it that in any any language

It just happens to rhyme. That's great. That's great. Well, there you go. Yeah. Do you know any other impossible to translate? No, no, that's a good one. That's a good one.

Thank you for clarifying. I now understand. Got to get that WILK. W-I-L-K? I mean, yeah! Yeah? Yeah, sure. That, you know, that. No Wilks refused, man.

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