Castle Super Beast - CSB326: IN TOO DEEP: Fake Son, Fake Dog, Real Consequences

Episode Date: June 25, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 ["Sailor Moon Theme"] Hey, there we are. Hey, New Dad Woolly. How are you doing? Doing all right. Doing good. How are you doing doing all right? doing good there's people people now know and There are two pieces of fan art and that's cool Our kids playing Street Fighter or whatever adorable it's Christina you do good work. Yeah, that's awesome
Starting point is 00:01:00 Obviously punch mom's loving it. That's super cute. Thank you so much That's awesome. Obviously Punch Mom's loving it. That's super cute. Thank you so much. It's wild for someone to have fan art before they exist. That's crazy. That is a not normal occurrence. Wow.
Starting point is 00:01:19 What are we? Yeah. All right. Let's see whatever that means. I don't know. But yeah, I know that was very cool. It's nice to see everybody happy for you. Yes, and Drawerson on Blue Sky who also did a little family pic with a fun little glasses
Starting point is 00:01:38 kid. So, good stuff. That's a lot of fun. That's really crazy because like, well this is what people thought you were gonna look like in cartoon form. Sure. Like, way back. Like, way, like, when you were still a, a, a, not quite a zygote. Yeah. But a fetus.
Starting point is 00:01:56 You are, you were in that, that, that, that phase that people are legally arguing about. Yeah, no, you're in the goo form. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. That one where we can still confuse you for a dolphin or a person? Yeah, as we work through all of our evolutionary processes, just like the Predator told us. Did he? I think I might've gotten my sci-fis
Starting point is 00:02:19 a little confused there for a second. Okay, mm. No, I think you're thinking of the black goop. I am thinking of the black goop. I read your mind. Yeah, I read your mind. Yeah, I got that. Damn. Totally. That's good. Speaking. That was spot on. Speaking of black goop. All right. Okay. I'm gonna hold it. All right. Let's go. You're okay. Listen, what are we actually talking about? Brain works a little too Okay, I'm gonna hold it. I'm gonna hold it back for a second. All right, let's go. Okay, listen.
Starting point is 00:02:46 What are we actually talking about? Brain works a little too fast there. Hold on a minute. Just a little, okay? You see the problem is that the longer I stall this, the worse it gets, right? The problem is- I put my brain on hold.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Yeah, okay. I'm using the same part of my brain to put this on hold that I use to turn off the baby's songs when they're playing in the living room. Okay, okay, the same part of my brain to put this on hold that I used to turn off the baby songs when they're Playing in the living room. Okay. Okay good good because this this this race to the punchline ass Mentality is not gonna be good for us in the long run. No, I'm gonna hold on this. All right speaking of black goop The the the film the thing I saw that the other day and I talked about how much I enjoyed it That's right. One of the best movies ever made. Yes
Starting point is 00:03:32 effects anyway, like holy fuck so At cinema to park here in Montreal. They were playing escape from New York and Reggie was like yo yo, you want... The sequel to the thing. Yeah, exactly. The prequel, actually. But it's like, yo, do you want to go catch that? And I was like, yeah. So, you know, grabbed Min and Shane and we all went and checked it out. And like, that's one of the ones that I feel like I've seen in bits and pieces on
Starting point is 00:04:00 TV a little bit, broken up, but not quite sitting down doing it to completion. I think you have maybe seen the entirety of Escape from New York in pieces throughout the media. I mean, it's kind of impossible. The whole thing. It's kind of- Every part of the Escape from New York buffalo. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Including South Park. South Park is a very crucial element. You can't just rely on Kojima to tell you the story of Snake Plissken. Because I don't know if you remember much about Escape from New York, but. I remember the parts from Cyberpunk and Metal Gear. Okay, yeah, it's great, right? It's great.
Starting point is 00:04:43 I know I've heard a lot about how LA doesn't hold up and that it super jumps the shark and that there's like surfing involved and all kinds of nonsense. So who knows? But I will say that like, as far as this goes, it's like, yeah, like watching another John Carpenter film and stuff. And I didn't quite, I don't think I knew that, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:02 that it was him. Watching that, it was like, OK, let's see how knew that, you know, that it was him. Watching that, it was like, okay, let's see how this kinda holds up and what it was like. It's really cool, there's a lot of fun in the simplicity of like, it opens up and immediately the only thing you need to know is the crime rate in 1988 has gone up by 400%, Manhattan is now a prison. That's your backstory, shut the fuck up. You know, there is no time. Like something like Escape from New York
Starting point is 00:05:33 and a lot of movies from the era, like the early 90s, it's this really fascinating snapshot. I'm totally obsessed with like the dangerous future of each era and like what what's gonna get us right and we had like you know in the aughts it was like meteors we're gonna come get us sure things from outside the world and it's like yeah in the 80s it was like man crimes out of control this shits nuts what if it just keeps escalate what if the line for crime just keeps going up infinitely? And it's like, actually, we banned leaded gasoline.
Starting point is 00:06:08 So it's going to crash in like three, four years. Give it a minute. No, but the parts where you're getting in on that premise, and then they establish that it's like, once you get in, there's no getting out. And then, oh, no, are you a bad enough dude to rescue the president? The whole premise definitely relies on your brain
Starting point is 00:06:36 to do a lot of the heavy lifting. And to be fair, great movies do. I mean, Alien, anything where Jaws, anything where the thing's off screen, your brain has to do a lot of the heavy lifting here. But the idea of the whole island of Manhattan has been abandoned and it is just absolute chaos and hell inside is like, oh fuck, okay, that's crazy. And upon going into it, you're like,
Starting point is 00:07:03 well, it's kinda rough, I guess, but people are still sitting around, you know, they're watching little live musical shows and having a good time. And that cab driver guy seems to be enjoying himself, you know, and it's a bit of a like a goofy little world where like Snake Plissken is like the most dangerous and angry and like serious about the whole situation But things are like kind of just a goofy beat-em-up 70s world it's it's a strange movie and now that I think about the the predilection of like
Starting point is 00:07:36 crime Right. Mm-hmm. I'm thinking of like how Escape from New York is portraying New York as like the most insane place that's ever oh my god it's out of control but like parts of Escape from New York are less actively hostile than the Warriors which takes place in non fantasy real New York. Okay so the Warriors is one comparison point there. I was going to go to another, which is like the example of the abandoned city left for the apocalypse in the arc Batman, No Man's Land, right?
Starting point is 00:08:17 Gotham is like, there's bombs on the bridges, it's all isolated and it is just a free for all purge ass hellscape in between. And reading Batman No Man's Land is way scarier than Escape from New York, you know? Like all the rogues gallery of villains all basically cut up sections of the city into their own areas and like their craziness is what determines the danger and how nuts it is in each borough and stuff. But overall, that's doing what your brain is expecting of how scary it is to be in this kind of cutoff environment. And here you're just kind of like, you're like, yeah, all right, it seems to be kind of messy and goofy but like, you know
Starting point is 00:09:08 It ain't the worst thing and they're like nah, dude. It's all about the Duke The Duke of New York. No one crosses the Duke, you know, and I don't know if you remember who the villain is in The villain pulls up and the door opens and it's this big cab like car Caravan and fucking Isaac Hayes with a cowboy hat steps out. And you're just like, like, what? Chef? You know? Like, you're not scary at all. He's kind of got a- he's got a got a little jovial funk attitude to it, you know?
Starting point is 00:09:42 And you're just like, this is the worst possible casting for a bad guy ever. It's like- You have to remember, when did Escape from New York come out? 78? 81, right? You have to remember, like, what character would scare like what character would scare non-New York adults in the year 1981? I guess.
Starting point is 00:10:12 And when you put like Isaac Hayes in as a bald black man, you're like halfway there for that audience. Once again, I'm like, you could have, it would have been more intimidating to get show enough, you know, as the main bad guy. Once again, I'm like you could have it would have been more intimidating to get show enough You know as the as the bat the main bad guy It should have been show no Right It's just kind of goofy because isaacays does not carry that threatening energy whatsoever. And I did recall afterwards I was like, oh, yeah, I feel like i've heard discussions before about he's like the most miscast element of the movie, because Kurt
Starting point is 00:10:49 Russell is doing a great job being- Yeah, he's at the peak of his like 80s manliness. Yeah, and he's like leather jacket grumbling his way through the movie. He's snaking it as you do. And you know and everybody knows him by reputation. Like you, you're alive. Aren't you dead? I heard about you. And he's doing the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:11:09 He's great. He's excellent. You know what I love about something like Escape from New York and Evangelion and whatever, anything that was like, wow, this was like an incredibly peak evocative thing at the time is like you rewatch it in your current age, right? And you just go, wow, they stole this shit. Wow, that's crazy. The name, the eye patch, like the whole fucking thing. Shameless. Shameless. But you know what? You know what? After the credits rolled, I was like, well, fuck, I would want to make a
Starting point is 00:11:42 video game based on that too actually. You could pitch a really cool game for break into New York City prison with the wall around it and break out with the president. That's totally a really cool game idea. Also, fucking Lee Van Cleef being awesome, you're just like, okay, You want your ocelot. You got your fucking ocelot He's excellent right and that's one of the I think like besides the good bad and the ugly I think that's the only other role. I think I know him from so he's in a few dollars more, okay Which is really strange because he plays an incredibly similar
Starting point is 00:12:22 Character in a few dollars more, who meets Blondie and is just a totally different guy. Despite being almost the same guy. Well, so that's why it's the trilogy, but not really a trilogy, right? They're just like- No, it's just I made, we made three movies in a row and they're all based off the same-
Starting point is 00:12:39 They're all the same, there you go. But no, yeah, he's excellent in this, and you totally see them sitting in front of each other, and he's hiring him for the mission. And he's all like, ah. And he's literally loading up a revolver while he's talking to him. And he goes, you got to rescue the president.
Starting point is 00:12:55 And this thing's like, the president of what? You're like, ah, look at them go. And you're like, yeah, let's get more of that. That's cash money. But it's just kind of wild where the world is not selling it as much as the character is, specifically Snake Plissken. And to that end, I'll say it's still pretty fun. And ultimately, it's a good romp.
Starting point is 00:13:24 That theme song is an absolute all-time banger. The Escape from New York theme song is incredible. Carpenter knows how to make an incredible iconic track. Sure does, right? When it's him as well composing, yeah. It's powerful. But it is interesting to see, okay, here's the same director, same like all that competence and like everything.
Starting point is 00:13:49 But like it has these little goofy flaws and then you just fast forward a couple years and then you're like, oh no, he had to build up to the thing. And the thing is just perfect. There is nothing to be said about it. It is just, it's just a perfect film, right? I would call the thing like a triumph
Starting point is 00:14:06 Yeah, it's a perfect film. It's just unbelievable There's no part of it like I'm talking about the goofy parts that aged here And I'm like there's nothing to be said about that after seeing it rum like no there This is time is irrelevant to it. I say That like the thing I don't even talk about the acting I mean like the production of the thing Literally could not be made today at the same quality
Starting point is 00:14:29 Because the experts in the field of the best practical effects to ever exist are all dead now Right and Winston is gone, right? There is no surrified fucking VFX genius that can build the thing rigs anymore. I mean they are but they're not necessarily getting hired, right? They're kind of doing it for the love of the game and not... Stan wasn't just like the best, he was the best who was working every day for like 20, 30 years on being the best. So what I will say is I can, you can convert that effort into other things.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Like for example, the folks behind Kubo and the two strings. You know what I mean? Like you want to talk about just respect for the old craft. They're doing it on another level with like stop motion and things like that. There's still, there's still pockets of this incredible like level of dedication. But one of the sad things to find out, I didn't realize, I didn't know, is that even though, yeah, Carpenter and the Thing, you're kind of associating that with some of the most incredible practical effects to the point where there was an auction, I think, happening last month where they had memorabilia and they
Starting point is 00:15:36 had the head from The Thing with the extended tendrils and stuff for like 70 grand or so. And it's like, if you want to just get that original you can and You know to which a friend was like hey yo gotta borrow 70k. What you know what for it's just like that I'm like, oh, yeah, sure, you know, and then you know when the kid turns College age it's just like here's your tuition toss the head, you know But um, it what was sad was to find out that Carpenter didn't necessarily then go on to be like, yeah, practical effects champ, because he embraced really shitty CG into the late 80s into 90s.
Starting point is 00:16:17 And so Escape from LA apparently has a bunch of awful CG in it, as do a couple of the things he worked on. So that was kind of unfortunate. But regardless, I will say that, like, going back to... John Carpenter is, like, the most normal guy to ever do it. Like, he's just like, all I want to do is smoke weed and play Xbox games. Nice. And then people are like, hey, do you ever wanna direct another Halloween? And he goes, yeah, sure, if they paid me. Yeah, well, I mean, they did a bunch without him, right?
Starting point is 00:16:53 And then they went, okay, that shit never happened. He's coming back. And he also has gone on, I remember reading an interview where he was talking about how fucking much he hates going to film filmmakers like retreats and Like seminar. Yeah, where he's just like walk in and there's always some new guy and just
Starting point is 00:17:18 Waxing poetic about the right way to make a movie and everyone's just hanging on there every word And it's all just a bunch of fucking shit. Yeah, I go to the buffet No, it's just you just it's you need more of that like Anthony Hopkins energy of just like what the fuck are you talking about it's a script you just read the words on the page like what is this method bullshit like no you read it and then you act and then you go home like what would you know um but yeah no it. Anthony Hopkins is so amazing for that because he's one of the best actors ever. And like he gets to be in the position
Starting point is 00:17:49 to tell you the way you're doing it is stupid. Because well, I didn't have to do that. What, you had to pretend to be a whole person all day? To read your lines? What are you, just a shitty actor? What, you have to become the human? And you know, and he has a sure, as he's been knighted
Starting point is 00:18:05 And he's talking shit to you. You're being you're being shit talked to by a knight Anyway, it is it is quite like it is quite clear that like yeah Kojima like is You know, we've already we already knew this but you're like it is it is beyond You know, we've already, we already knew this, but you're like, it is, it is beyond a, a, a reproach how lifted everything is, but it's still fun and it's still great. And I still enjoy that. I'm playing like a PlayStation one game has cut scenes of real nuclear waste, you know, and we learned about muff. You know, it's, it's important.
Starting point is 00:18:40 It's still good There was I think was really funny is That some of the lifting was like so ridiculous There was a guy in like Metal Gear 1 or 2 that was like just the predator Like literally it was just predator. Mm-hmm, and I think there was another one that was also just Spider-man and like those were so close they had to be changed it's like fuck it I mean some of the portraits as well on the Kodak calls right oh they're traced over photos from like James yeah it's crazy like until Yoji Shinkawa came around and started doing his shit like they're just like grab a photo of an 80s action hero and just trace that shit
Starting point is 00:19:28 Yeah But again, he was like making these Japanese like you know spy games for obscure consoles who the fuck the world was not supposed to Know this shit. I hope this hope this doesn't become really important right of course not also It was the style at the time, right? You wear your fucking orange on your belt or your onion on your belt, and then you make a Contra game with Sylvester Stallone and fucking Arnold Schwarzenegger on the cover, you know?
Starting point is 00:19:57 You get wizards and warriors, and you put fucking Fabio with a sword on the cover. Like, this is what we did. This is what video games were. It was just, you know, everything was aping something else. But yeah, it was, it was fun to go back to it. Hey, what up? Hey guys, hey, hey, hey, hey, lethal weapon, but in space. Think about it. Damn.
Starting point is 00:20:22 What if instead of police, they were police nods? Yeah. Crazy. Oh dude. Oh, he almost bangs his daughter also. What? Don't forget about the FroZones and the the the what was it? The defrosted or whatever the fuck the like what the fuck were they called? They yeah they like they like they froze nut and then they defrosted the nut and then you're the product of defrosted nut and now that's a slur. What was it? Did someone in the chat ask for help?
Starting point is 00:20:55 It was something, deicers- Frozeners! Frozoders. Frozoders, frozeners, yeah. Frozeners, sure, yeah. Hey, get the fuck out of my bar frostoid yeah that's but then you had an amazing theme song as well which which is also very carpenter you know you want to build you I want to believe that Kojima
Starting point is 00:21:18 reached out at some point many times over the years, to John Carpenter, you know, and got no reply whatsoever because the clap wasn't where it was today. I would like to go with a hot take that'll take about 15 years to percolate. I think that we are going to see a dramatic decrease in the quality of all ideas going into big budget video games over the next 10 to 15 years as There are not the fucking glut of cool ass movies to steal from like there were in the 80s and 90s I will see that and combine. I will double down on that take from the opposite side Okay, so that's one reason and by our powers combined the other reason Yoko Taro said it this week Fucking what weird people not enough weird people in the in games development, right? That's it. We'll take that
Starting point is 00:22:14 That's it. We'll get early docket on that. Yoko Taro says there's not enough weird game developers And that's why and that sucks and yeah And they're using the screenshot of like the drarakengard like a true ending with the weird statue and the tongue sticking out right before fucking the portal opens up to create the franchise. Yeah. So that's, that's a function of global economics more than anything. And it's like, listen, back in the eighties, man, man, we missed it.
Starting point is 00:22:43 It's bullshit. But back in the eighties, you could be a fucking artist and you could bes, man, man, we missed it. It's bullshit. But back in the 80s, you could be a fucking artist and you could be like, okay, artist, like a painter or a sculptor and sell to like a couple of rich people and you could just afford your car payments and your studio apartment. It was called a studio apartment because that's what was for artists. And yeah, you'd make men's meat and that's fine But now unless you're working for Pixar doing 400 hours of a second Like nah, you got to get your roommates to fucking pitch in to get the the new toilet Well kind of flying off that you're going you're going kind of yeah, you're going to have but the no
Starting point is 00:23:17 But listen there is you can still go get a product Made and you can still get your script product made and you can still get your script read by A24 and if it's quirky enough, they'll put the quirky budget behind it and make a little trailer that puts all the things that says like, you know, this thing that gangbusters can, you know, so you're going to love it. It's quirky and it's coming this summer. And, you know, we can get someone attached to it. So sure, you can still make those movies, But it'll transform into something else at some point The singular independent cheaply made genre of movie that still makes money to make And then in the gaming equivalent you kind of just go
Starting point is 00:23:56 Yeah, I'm gonna do pixel art and make it with like five of my buddies and throw it up on steam You know what I'm gonna do? All right, you know how okay. I pitched it. It's our new friend slop. It's got survival elements And you play with your friends and it's got proximity chat Can I get this pitched? Yes? Okay good. Sick. I did it. Theme? I don't know. What's on the asset store? What are we doing? Space! No, Vikings? Okay. the asset store what are we doing space no like Vikings okay fruits we got a bunch of fruits yeah all right there we go yeah you know it's it's it is very
Starting point is 00:24:36 possible to be that quirky weirdo like like creator and just kind of get the thing made you know as a weird little indie thing on the much earlier or so. But in terms of weirdos helming the ship, right? There are very few weirdos helming the fucking freighter class ship with tons of people underneath them going, sir, yes, sir, right away, whatever your weird commands are. It's a really good day to talk about this, because as of right now, you can play Death Stranding 2
Starting point is 00:25:11 by the genius Kojumbles. Ah, new variations. Okay. And Kojima, Kojima's like the Superman of video games, and I say that because his name has gotten so much cache. It has freed him from the worldly concerns of having to make a game that people like or will make any money because people will. And it will pretty much no matter the fuck what.
Starting point is 00:25:41 And it reminds me, I was talking about how I was excited to play Death Stranding 2 this week and a guy responded with I can't fucking believe people like these games where you just fucking walk around all day and throw piss at ghosts. What the fuck. And they're completely right. Yeah. Completely right. But that the way that that cache was built right is that in the industry in video games it's become humongous and like, you can't ignore it. And I'm sure that the type of person we were describing that Anthony Hopkins hates, right, just now, those conversations that John Carpenter wants to get away from, Klein.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Yeah, that's Kojima. Kojima is all that. And Kojima, if you can get him in a room with anyone in Hollywood, he will just spout all of that for till their ears fall off, right? There is, there is a... And they'll be like, okay, yes, sure, absolutely. The creative genius of, you know, it's all coming to, yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Just the power of the art and the moving tears and the see all of it. They'll be right on board. And then, you know, all of the folks that you get, you got like Jordan Peele and everyone that are standing there and Totoro-san, and they're all probably just like, I don't fucking get what he's talking about, but I'm here for it. Right? I get this distinct vibe of like, we don't understand him, but fuck it. I think the best one is recently the guy playing. Oh god, I can't remember his name. The Italian guy who's playing
Starting point is 00:27:10 the new. Snake. Yes. Yes. Luca Luca Baba to Boopy. I don't know, but he recently talked about how when he went into went into do the recording Kojima had to explain to him that he was not playing Solid Snake. And he was like, I thought I was playing Solid Snake. And he's like, no, no, you're not. And I read that and I go, there's definitely more to that conversation that's not in the interview, which is like, are you fucking serious? He's like, no, not really. You're pretty much playing Solidag. I bet. It's just illegal stuff.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Shit. Right? I like, just, you can just imagine in your mind's eye, you know, like Mads walks out of the room with the conversa- after having the conversation and just looks at Norman Reedus. And Norman's like, right? No, no, no, no. What?
Starting point is 00:28:04 You know? Like, no, no. What? Like, what the fuck? Mads Nicholson wouldn't do that. He would use, he's got that stoic, icy look. So he, like, Norman would be trying to ask him questions and he would just be smoking and go, it's incredible. Yeah, sure, sure. It's amazing. But do you, sure. It's amazing. But do you understand it though? Like, God no.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Of course, yes, amazing. And I would extend that to, yeah, all the director friends and everybody as well, you know? But he's just, there's nothing else like it. There's no one else like it. So you need more of that. You definitely need more Yoko Taro rolling around on the ground in your Suda 51s.
Starting point is 00:28:46 And your Toby Foxes, you know? You need these odd flavors of like, I guess the term was auteur, right? Yeah, but like people need to eat food and make money. They do. They do. Like we wouldn't be getting Delta Rune if Undertale hadn'tale had no beyond all expectation
Starting point is 00:29:07 And banking you banking your lunch and your children's lunches on the weirdest That I'm not gonna tell you to make that gamble like I hundred percent, you know Fucking game that oh shit. I can't remember. It's alt is it altissa What the fuck am I thinking of there? Is it's there's some fucking I played it on backlog Okay, and it's this it's this N64 looking N64 looking
Starting point is 00:29:49 N64 looking Metroidvania game with a goat girl that has a gigantic ass. And this is clearly atlas. And it was excellent. And all I could think of when we're having this conversation is like, you've got to be willing. No, no, you guys are thinking of a different game. This is a different game by a furry pervert. I'm thinking of Pseudo-Rigalia. Pseudo-Rigalia.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Okay. Ah, yes, yes, yes. I remember that. And like, you gotta be willing to like bet your life on enough people being out there that'll go like, I would love, I would love an N64 style Metroidvania for Perverts. And like, guess what? There are tons of those people. Absolutely, right?
Starting point is 00:30:31 And that game's great. Yeah. Right? Mm-hmm. But like, that's a fucking dice roll, man. Or that other one with the robot with the big ass, right? There's a couple of thing with the big ass games. That is so, that could be any.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Oh, no. OK, not not. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, not the stellar blade or neurotomato, not the human looking robot with the big ass. I mean, the robot robot with the big ass. That's that they know. They know exactly. Yeah. I wouldn't have said I wouldn't have said that when I say this,
Starting point is 00:31:02 when I say the robot with the big ass, you know? Yeah, you know exactly what I mean. It's- There's a real genuine truth to the type of people that are willing to risk it and try new things are completely incorrigible perverts that just need to get that thought into the world out there so people can see it and like that's really brave.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Well, listen, one can have a thought and that thought is, damn, that robot has a fat ass. But then the second thought can be, but what are they feeling? And they're feeling like their clothes are too tight. Their ass is too fat. And you know, and are there and are those feelings valid? And should we as their creators, you know, invalidate that humanity that that we have artificially created? So we say all this with the with the idea of the goofy creator and stuff.
Starting point is 00:32:00 But don't forget, like not a few months ago, we were also just having conversations about how, you know, with a high-fi rush and John Johannes, the whole like, you can have a successful game that play, you can play it safe if you want to and not be guaranteed success. You could do a great job on all fronts and have all the word of mouth and hype and clout. Some pencil pusher didn't like this number in this column. And it still doesn't matter. So if it's gonna come down to a fucking dice roll anyways, then like why not be super weird about it? You know? Sure. Sure. I don't know if you have it in the news, but the Lies of P developers,
Starting point is 00:32:39 they recently were informed that L lies of P sold better than projected and overtures also doing well. So everybody got like like 7500 USD in cash a switch to and two extra weeks of vacation. Dub. That's great. That's awesome being fired. Yep. That's nice. Which is what's happening to the folks over at Mind's Eye, I believe. Yep, now of course, the larger the studio, the less any of that matters whatsoever,
Starting point is 00:33:20 the more it's just in and out the grinder, so to speak. But I think too as well, like would you say, so I'm just from the outside, would you say that Lies of P is a proper AA experience? No. I'd say it's excellent. Well, that's not like- Well, that's not what I-
Starting point is 00:33:41 It's not bells and rings. Those are not mutually exclusive You know details Double a and a half. I don't know it fits in a weird spot. It's it's It's more almost triple a it's Korean triple a Korean triple a okay, okay? All right fair enough because I was just I Was thinking about that type of success and looking at, obviously, we've been talking about Expedition 33 and how well that's been doing.
Starting point is 00:34:11 And that prescient-ass quote from the Larian director, upon accepting their awards, basically going, I know what game of the year is going to be for the next three years. And it's going to be a game with a bunch of people upon accepting their awards, basically going, I know what game of the year is gonna be for the next three years, and it's gonna be a game with a bunch of people that actually care about what they're making, that were allowed to make it, that weren't,
Starting point is 00:34:33 you know, and he just goes down the list and weren't given deadlines and weren't fucking having their pay docked and threatened with being fired over not hitting certain quotas or Metacritic ratings and given the freedom to, and all the little things about the people that are enjoying making a cool thing having a chance to make the thing cool. You know, and so I'm kind of going like, is this just another simple case of like, hey, a, a team that didn't have to be over bloated
Starting point is 00:34:58 was able to make something and we're not given heavy, stupid deadlines, restrictions and crunch time. I don't know the history of what's going on with Liza P outside of it just being like this came out of nowhere and is an incredible asshole. They worked on it and then they put it out and then it sold well. That's the history. That's it. That's all you got. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:21 I guess I'd be curious to see about the team size and some of the other stuff and deets, but I'd love for there to be more examples like sandfall, you know Yeah, so the lies of P is really interesting because it reminds me of a conversation I remember seeing a long time ago around when Lords of the Fallen the very first Lords of Fallen came out in which I think it came out around Dark Souls 3 and it's a Souls game and it's an unabashed Souls game and people were saying that like well you know it's not fair to compare Lords of the Fallen to Dark Souls 3 because Dark Souls 3 is the fourth of those games that From Software has made. Whereas Lords of the Fallen is
Starting point is 00:35:59 like the first one that this team has made. And the reply to that was like well yeah because FromSoftware keeps the same people and they just keep making the same game over and over and just working on it and getting really, really, really, really good at it. They get a chance to do that. The opportunity is provided. And now they're now they're really like we got guys working on Elden Ring, Shadow of the Urchie that were working on fucking Demon's Souls back in 2008. No, and the thing about that which comes up often enough, which is like, oh, that's an
Starting point is 00:36:31 unfair comparison, look at the size, support, scope, et cetera, is like- My wallet does not take your excuses into account. Well, no, no, no, no, no. Let's put that aside, right? Let's put that aside. You're like, okay, let's get some fair comparisons. And I think like, you know, Clare Obscure is one of them where you can be like, that's a brand new team
Starting point is 00:36:49 that got that together and, you know, learning about it. I mean, they, like from the Guillaume Brioche's initial versions and stuff like that, there was a couple of versions that went through, but essentially it was a seven. I gotta stop you. I keep calling him Guillaume Brioche as well cause it's really funny, but apparently his name is Guillaume Brioche as well, because it's really funny,
Starting point is 00:37:05 but apparently his name is Guillaume Brosh. Brosh, excuse more. Excuse more, excuse more. Because I keep calling him Guillaume Breadman. I thought that's what that to it was, okay, Brosh. Yeah, but that was a seven year development, it turns out, right? And the that's not fair sort of comparisons, I think.
Starting point is 00:37:28 It's like, well, that doesn't necessarily apply here because here you have folks that left a larger company and got it together through forums. And there's ways to make this happen that I think you can compare. Anything that had more money going into it, more publisher power and or like a better head start Should be able to be compared to that outcome. I think I think comparison is
Starting point is 00:37:55 Hilarious and really fun. But at the end of the day at the end of the day There's a certain cruel aspect to it because like in the context of this conversation, my brain just goes like, well Toby Fox built Undertale by himself. How come your shit isn't as good as Undertale? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And this is- How fucking mean that is to say to anyone? It's super mean. It's very mean. It's very nuts, and also it's the second coming of the cave story discussion. Because 10 years ago, it was Pixel did it, why can't you? That's the voice.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Because I'm not Toby Fox or Pixel. Yeah, and you know what? That yelling voice is actually me and Josh yelling at ourselves in our own brains going, why can't we do that? And every other creator that's going, fucking Pixel did it, why can't I? You know, I can tell you why for Toby Fox. I actually have the data and the data is you don't have a lavish music background as well as
Starting point is 00:39:03 binders upon binders upon binders of OCs you've been writing in since you were in grade school. I mean, there's a million reasons, and also the practice to be amazing at all of the, not just the art, not just the gameplay, not just the programming, the story, also the, you know, just top to bottom, every single element you've dedicated your time to it.
Starting point is 00:39:23 I said 10 years ago, the game, Cave Story is obviously 20 plus for sure, but I mean that, but it, Cave Story was not influential until time passed, until it became a thing where people were around the, like a couple of generations in going, oh fuck, the one man army that can build the game. So I'm talking about the influence,
Starting point is 00:39:42 which was after that release period. All that to say, you know, the the like fucking this person did it alone why can't you is it's super toxic and horrible and it's the voice that's already in our heads man you can't do that you can't do that to people reason to that in a lot of cases like X studio was able to build this for X money in Y time. How come you guys can't do it? And for many people in the games industry, the answer is because person asking the question wasn't breathing down those people's necks. There's that. There is that.
Starting point is 00:40:19 I didn't have the boss man just fucking fuming with a fucking spreadsheet in his hand behind me every time I wanted to build a new character design. Also, it was unreasonable how far Toby took the game maker engine. Like, that is an, you're not supposed to do that level of work with it, but someone being completely unreasonable about the project they're working on can pull this shit off sometimes, right? You ever play Lisa or the Joyful or the Painful?
Starting point is 00:40:50 A little bit, yeah. Okay, those are amazing games that are way too much for the thing they're built on. Clearly pushing it to the fucking limits. They're higher, yeah, by the third attempt or so of those games you're just like oh you need another platform This is crazy what you're doing here now, you know to be fair I we've spent a good portion of the past conversations shitting on businessman and producer man
Starting point is 00:41:20 however We have like a riot game story this week. And we've had multiple EA game stories over the past couple of years in which the producer just goes, yeah, do whatever you want. It'll come out. Don't worry about it. And then the fucking thing just languishes for like 10 years. Oh, of course.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Because you know, like what better place than this podcast to underline the idea that, hey, the extremes are funny, but obviously there's examples going the opposite way. Yo, where's the XKO, bud? Skong! Skong! Skong! Skong ass! Where's Skong ass? Just yell the word Skong and then a producer... Got infinite creative freedom to not put a game out. Every time you yell the word Skong, a producer gets a job. Like, it just materializes into a seat.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Yes, 100%. Also, do I have some bias from like being in the studio watching as like what I perceive to be very little is being done by someone who's taking a lot of credit for fucking rounding up emails? Yeah, sure, right? Did I watch people who were not very capable use milk and honey words to get themselves
Starting point is 00:42:32 into positions of power? Uh-huh, absolutely. You know? So, you know, and are those gonna be the people that are the first on the chopping block when it's time to, no, they're never, never are, you know? So. Because they smoothed it's time to, no, there never, never are, you know? So. Because they smoothed it.
Starting point is 00:42:45 But absolutely, absolutely, there does need to be the, okay, we need to fucking ship it. Shut the fuck up. Don't let. This is crazy. That needs to exist too. We're acquiring all of our dad phrases, right? It's like, don't let perfect be the enemy of good.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Of good, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. And, you know, like, don't let your illness stop you from getting that homemade project out the door. You know, like just the, you ever hear about like outsider art? That's, yeah, I've heard about it. I've made outsider art.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Okay. I make outsider art every day. Oh, oh wow, okay, cool. In my toilet. Damn, that's sick, dude. I've heard about it. I've made outsider art. I make outsider art every day. Oh, wow. Okay. Cool. In my toilet. Damn, that's sick, dude. I didn't know. There's a- It's about the futility of human existence. Here it goes.
Starting point is 00:43:36 You can go into and look at the whole Wikipedia article about people that were incredible artists that were just nowhere near anything professional and nobody knew about them. And there's one in particular that was like, he just was in his apartment, I think, in New York and he just died and nobody knew that he did anything. But they just found his walls and ceilings and doors covered in amazing work.
Starting point is 00:44:02 But he was just like, yeah, he just lived and did it himself. And that was that, you know. Like this reminds me of page reading fan fictions and finding like the terror of the fan fiction reader is I got like, oh, yeah, I wrote one hundred and twenty two chapters. Yeah, I'm done. I'm just gonna end it halfway through. I'm gonna be Game of Thrones man over here. Right. And she described like finding a person who had written like the best one she'd ever read and being like, Oh man, when
Starting point is 00:44:38 are you gonna continue it? And she's like, Oh, I don't know. She's like, you should just change the names off on this and sell it and be like, you know, Stephanie Meyer and get your Shades of Grey money. Like, nah, I'm just doing it for fun. And there's like an entire underbelly of amazing artists everywhere that are making their art for them only for funsies with no intention of ever- Ever commercializing it or anything, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Right. I believe that Amano started that way. I wanna say self-taught, no real formal training of any kind, and I don't remember the full story of it, but I feel like I learned like a mono was not really meant to show up in my part of any game project I Love Yoshitaka Amano first of all, I think he's a great artist
Starting point is 00:45:36 Second of all, I think that Yoshitaka Amano getting to be like a big deal art due to Final Fantasy is getting to be like a big deal art due to Final Fantasy is the funniest thing in the world Because they're like all right Amano we need concept art for this thing you have 15 pixels to work with He gives you the most Fucking painting that doesn't even Okay, fuck it I guess we'll just drill it down like have you ever seen his concept art for VB forever of nine is we're dead All the details like a hundred percent, but he's like that's not my fucking problem You go make your stupid little boopity boops
Starting point is 00:46:23 I'm gonna draw you want me to draw I'll draw and you figure out the beeps and bops, you know That's that's your fucking issue, you know skill issue actually says Amano Yeah, a hundred percent and like what are you gonna say man You're gonna show up to fucking Iraqi's door and ask him to commission a piece for your subway And then you want him to dub it to dumb it down and simplify it You're gonna get this weird subway art boy thing with a million weird other things happening in the background and nobody will taking the subway He's gonna understand what the fuck they're looking at. But then why'd you show up and ask him? That's what we it's what we asked for I guess and
Starting point is 00:46:59 Then and fucking you know, like who is like a mono No one that's one of a kind. It's and fucking, you know, like, who is like a motto? No one, that's one of a kind. It's- Not unique, yeah. You would never associate, you wouldn't think that was even connected to video games, you know, years ago. So, incredible.
Starting point is 00:47:16 Anyways, so Escape from New York was pretty good. It is true. It is true. Ha ha ha ha. Fun tangent. Beyond that, yeah, you know, not a ton, much else. Just did a couple things this week. The Yakuza Zero Director's Cut came out and did a little hashtag sponsored stream for
Starting point is 00:47:37 that. There's a lot of really cool new stuff they did for that game. The dub is really good, I have to say. I was waiting to see how that's going to sound. And Kuze is excellent. Hearing the generals and stuff is like, you want to make sure they nail it. And they definitely did a great job with that. David Hayter coming in as Kashiwagi. Of course. Perfect, right? Nails it, does it. And he's doing a more stern,
Starting point is 00:48:08 obviously cop sounding type of dude. He's not gravelling it and staking it. He's got range. And then yeah, also the new mode, Red Light Raid is literally just playable. All the bosses, all the characters, playable everybody, 60 characters you can pick and just go through online, four players versus rooms of enemies and waves, you know?
Starting point is 00:48:32 That's a fun addition as well that I wouldn't have expected per se. So it's nice to be able to like come back around just after beating this game not long ago in the original format and seeing a couple of these things here. I've heard wind of some other changes. I've heard wind of some plot details with the new cut scenes. I think that the way that the RGG team made their Yakuza Zero director's cut is the most RGG way they could have possibly done anything. Because when I heard, oh, oh there was gonna be new cutscenes
Starting point is 00:49:07 What I thought that meant was they were gonna take the cutscenes that were still images with text Turn those into real cutscenes No fuck that and fuck that's too much. No, that's too much Add new yeah to bring dead characters back to life. Therefore we can use them again in the future! No, so that Ichiban can hang out with them later! It's so fucking weird. Why else would you do that if not for Ichiban? That has to be it, right? That's the only reason you do that.
Starting point is 00:49:43 It's so... It's looking like Star Wars Absolutely releases a million percent a million percent Star Wars. We're saving that character down the line You don't worry about it. Oh, you know so you're getting that right and Adding a fucking cutscene of koozay crawling out of the fucking sarlacc pit and I'm like yeah it's koozay a hundred a hundred percent but then also didn't have to go this far I was very pleasantly surprised when you hit up karaoke they translated the songs That's yeah Back at me tie. I'm just a fool you know you get the actual like that's already been That's already been a thing in a while the English versions of the karaoke songs. Oh, I didn't know that okay?
Starting point is 00:50:43 Cuz that in judgment haven't been dubbin' for a while. Ah, okay. It's fun to sing those songs in English. That's fun. I enjoyed that. Okay, Seven has been doing it. So yeah, that was a little fun little revisit to the world. Unfortunately didn't get a chance to hear Majima
Starting point is 00:51:03 or do any English cabaret, but I imagine that must be a hoot and a holler. And yeah, took a look at Alpha 3 with Temujin, the aka Tony, Montreal Alpha 3 player, competitive back in the day. We just, we just, that's just a fun game to just fly around the cast and do stuff, man. You know, you got a million, like it was the... There's a lot in that fucking game. Yeah, you know, like it was a time when, you know, Capcom would make a game and then they'd
Starting point is 00:51:37 experiment with a bunch of ideas when they made the next version or the sequel. And then somewhere around the end, you would have the final version where they just Marvel versus Capcom 2 style, throw everyone and everything in the kitchen sink at it. And Alpha 3 is just one of those great games where you're just like, yeah, let's just fucking pick anybody and anything and go nuts. Here's Sodom. If you pick him in Xism mode instead of Kunai or instead of size he has katanas because in back in final fight you know he was his name was katana and he had like different versions from that game in here like little you know little little fun bits and stuff. It's great I really like
Starting point is 00:52:17 Alpha 3. The only thing that kind of makes me sad is that they did so many wild, fun versions of that game that are not the all-time definitive in a way. Because, okay, you had upper where it was all the PlayStation characters and the new warriors and Guile and stuff got added back into the game. But then you had the version like double upper and stuff where you got Yon and Mackie and Eagle and Ingrid and so on. World Tour mode getting tons of updates as well. And the one that I always remember, you must too, is what we played back in the day at college, Hyper Street Fighter Alpha 3 that had Marvel versus Capcom ism mode and Darkstalkers ism mode. And like you could literally just do whatever, just do whatever.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Every single character with like, like you can pick a third strike ish mode with parries in it. They went crazy on the choices there. Yeah, just a big celebration of everything. And it's, it's unfortunate that that version, you know, all that work kind of got lost and didn't get preserved going forward. But, um, still like, reminds me of some of the talk I see about street fighter six where people like, how come street fighter six isn't changing the, in the same dramatic ways that street fighter five did. It was like, well, street fighter five had to change cause it fucking sucked and people didn't like
Starting point is 00:53:38 it. Yep. Street fighter six came out like solid and people are happy. There were system problems also Also, both four and five, when they released, they said in interviews on release that they didn't want to intimidate people by having them pick a character and then go into a bunch of choices. So they wanted you to just pick the character and then go. And like, in the end, I think that's like, whatever.
Starting point is 00:54:04 Pete, like you're not, like, that's one of those conversations where it's just like Are you are you actually scaring anyone away? Or are you just like artificially kind of kneecapping some fun choices that could be there? Whatever the case is um in sit in six I'll say that you pick the character you go in and then you can do a bunch of shit with that drive meter regardless You know, it's just up to you which do a bunch of shit with that drive meter regardless. You know? It's just up to you which one of these five or six things you want to do. I think Street Fighter has like had a long history of that problem and I think it started really really really fucking early and I don't think they ever got over it.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Because like I love isms, I love grooves and I love third strike. But I at the end of the day the thing that stands out most to me over the entire history of Street Fighter is like well why would you pick Sagat in Super Turbo instead of old Sagat? Old Sagat's the one you want to play and how every almost every single game has had a fucking version of that like well oh this is the optimal best version or what you pick this fucking super why would you wellon without Ganaghan? What are you, fucking stupid?
Starting point is 00:55:08 And to be perfectly honest, I feel like that's a... This is a problem that applies to the weird Venn diagram person who is not very good or experienced with the genre, but also cares a lot about meta in other games. So if you're a brand new to this game... That is not a weird person. That is like a wild, that is a crazy huge amount of people. So the issue I guess that I would say is,
Starting point is 00:55:34 if you are coming in going like, I care about tier lists before I really know anything else about the game, the priorities are not where they ought to be. And you're going to have a weird time going up about it, like trying to trying to pay attention to what Daigo is doing as opposed to just, you know. So we're okay at fighting games. I say we're okay, right? And I'm I've been okay at other games. But like, like, I feel like you are underselling just how many people walk into a game and go, who's good?
Starting point is 00:56:10 Yeah, 100%. Someone just feeds them the tier list and then they go, okay, that's it. And that's fine, right? But if you're getting into what you're talking about with like, oh, why would you ever pick? Oh, so God, what was someone that's not oh, so God, are you crazy and that kind of conversation? I guess it's just like Are you are we? What what love like what do we kind of play? Are we playing for fun here? We're playing casually Are you entering a bracket? Like where are we going with this if we're just kind of pressing buttons and having fun with it?
Starting point is 00:56:43 I think the whole point of ultimately like why I do get into fighting games the way I do is to just be like Yeah, pop the game and press some buttons like have some fun. I guess I don't know attributed more brain thought than most of these people I Think like well, I think there's two different conversations, right? I think there's two conversations and I don't want to get them conflated because I don't want this to be one of those moments Where it's like you fucking alien here we go. But is you saying that or is I saying that the high the hypothetical straw man that I'm creating over here that is currently typing into the chat.
Starting point is 00:57:18 The straw man that is here at the keyboard actually that exists. No all this all I'm trying to say all I'm trying to say is that with any game, if I'm learning the ropes, but I'm also trying to focus on and handle details that are way too intimidating, you're just getting into a character action game and you're only focused on how to fucking distorted real impact and then guard
Starting point is 00:57:46 fly and get your you know what never mind triple s-ing anything never mind being stylish like you're trying you know what i mean you're trying to work on these like it's like well we got to start somewhere and that place should usually be having some fun right that's it that's it so if if like that's not a thing or if people approach things in different ways, where they're like, I've never learned anything about the games I play besides just what is meta and you stick to that and you go all in and that's how you play it. I will say that with fighting games,
Starting point is 00:58:14 it's going to be probably a little more tricky if you only focus on the really, really, really difficult elements, but ignore all the most simple things that come before that. Bro, I'm thinking about Gene when we were playing Night Reign and how he just like cut forth to the ultimate truth of the world. It feels good when you win and it sucks when you lose. And this game is the best when you win and this game sucks ass when you lose. And I feel like the problem that happens with that
Starting point is 00:58:45 with fighting games is that when you're like, well is it about having fun? And to most people, winning and having fun are literally the same thing. I just want to, like, walking out of here, I just want to say that in that hypothetical, the person who's picking Sagat is not who I'm talking to. That person is playing their game and doing their thing and go nuts, have fun, let's enjoy it.
Starting point is 00:59:12 The person who's standing there going, why would you ever pick that version of Sagat? You're picking the wrong one. Fuck that guy. You're an asshole. You suck. You're a problem. I hate that. the problem that's the person that I'm putting shade on do you remember okay I know that guy we've all met that guy the problem with that guy is that for a good amount of time they're gonna beat you because they know just a little bit more and that's where their shithead personality comes from okay well whatever man like that's cool it's time to fight. Yeah, sometimes there are villains in, you know, sometimes not every FGC player is an upstanding dude. What? That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:59:54 I thought everybody in the game was. The talents and the, there is, you know, it is not a one-to-one correlation. You would be surprised. There are some villains out there. However, if you're like, if we're talking to the person that's just picking to fucking have some fun and you're getting on their case over what they're picking or whatever, and this is like the least, you know what I mean? This is just a very like not competitive circumstance or
Starting point is 01:00:20 environment. What the fuck are you doing? Shut up? We're just let's let's have fun You know can't wait to play Street Fighter with my son and him being like, oh can I win and me just go no Mm-hmm Why'd you pick why'd you pick 12? You know 12 sucks and and so the other right and so the other part of this is I can I can only imagine that like the Experience of let's say a fucking war zone lobby, right? Is like you jump in and if you're on a team or you're grabbing the wrong loadout or you're, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:00:55 You're back in the day the noob tubes or whatever the fuck it is. The grand innovation of the Battle Royale is that it lets like 60 or 70% of players in a 100 person match feel like they won to some degree. That is like the genius of Battle Royale is that like it disseminates the feeling of winning across a huge variety of players. So there's that part of it. And then I guess there's the part of it where it's like from the jump, you are meant to internalize and get used to the level of toxic bile
Starting point is 01:01:40 that will always be there and just learn to float on it. Right? That's kind of what you sort of have to do in those situations. I mean, you know, in a situation like this, what we're describing, where it's not half the lobby going nuts over your what you're doing or what weapon you're picking or how you're playing or whatever the normal case is, but it's one asshole in the room who I can do you can tell to fuck off. It's pretty easy to solve that problem, you know?
Starting point is 01:02:03 I've never, I've never heard or seen anyone speak in a Battle Royale game, but I can feel their toxic vibes through the screen with their soul permeate. You could fucking feel it. Similarly, I've never spoken with my voice to somebody in League of Legends. And even if they're not typing, you can feel it. You can feel they're just like sewage just radiating off their body. Yeah, I mean, rage quitting and there's like, you know, griefers and shit that definitely that you encounter online and when you go on playing fighting games online and stuff.
Starting point is 01:02:49 But if we're talking about a situation where you're like, yeah, you're going to be in a lobby where a bunch of people are just going to call you the worst things on planet Earth every time you log in. And it's like, you just ignore that and you play regardless, but then enough people will win that you'll feel good about the outcomes and it won't really matter that much in the end, you know, it's like Oh, you have to dead in something a little bit inside there, I guess, you know You've played a bunch of multiplayer games
Starting point is 01:03:20 Couple you know Why do you this is gonna this kind of a granular like the focused in question what group of players Do you feel are the angriest you've ever played with like like in a game? like Marvel people or Mortal Kombat people or halo or Like just like you can feel
Starting point is 01:03:55 just white hot rage coming off them even if they don't speak like just moving their character. For me, it has to be Dead by Daylight. Dead by Daylight is like the angriest I've ever seen players move around an environment, even though I can't hear them. Even though I can't... It's crazy. I think the most toxicity I've ever felt in a public sort of open situation, because I really haven't put myself in that type of situation often. Maybe Overwatch 1. Oh yeah. Overwatch original was. Get off my pick.
Starting point is 01:04:39 Absolutely. When I, because I got used to playing it with the Black Gift folks and had some good times playing with the group. And then a couple times I'd be like, damn, I need to work on my aim. I gotta get better. And so let me just queue up when no,
Starting point is 01:04:53 other people are not around. So I did some solo queuing. And I think Overwatch original is where it felt the worst. Yeah. That was so toxic, man. No, it was literally every single game. Every single game, every single person. It was unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:05:12 It was unbelievable. Without fail. But at the same time, I mean, again, I didn't jump into a Modern Warfare 2 lobby back in the 360 era. I've heard tale I've heard legends, you know I think what what like really ups it for dead by daylight is that it's 4v1, right? And then you can only speak at the very end you can only speak
Starting point is 01:05:37 You know after the match is over and like sometimes people are mad at it's like I primarily play killer, right? And people say, oh you fucking asshole, you tunneled me, which means like following one person consistently. But like more often than not, it would be like the team of survivors just throwing blame on each other for losing. Just crabs eating themselves in the bucket which so it's like like the people who are talking shit to you from the Opposing team you know is one that's one layer of just like all right, man What whatever you have to do to get through your day, but the ones who are on your team We're just like holy fuck
Starting point is 01:06:22 You're I can't believe this Zarya is so garbage. Why? Like, bro- Oh my god Yeah, I'm trying. I'm trying to shield properly. I'm sorry. I'm- can I- yeah There's only so much labbing I can do on my own before I have to take it into a live environment and get some real practice in, guys. I will say League of Legends and Dead by Daylight are the only games I've played
Starting point is 01:06:55 in which people will take their ball and just sit at home. Or like, they will get so mad at what's going on and they will get so unwilling to quit's going on and they will get so like unwilling to quit because they don't want the rage penalties that they will just idle their character in like a dangerous spot. And that's where feeding comes from. Oh, right, right, right.
Starting point is 01:07:16 Feeding. I'm gonna feed if you don't fucking. You know what? I'm gonna just feed the fucking other team. Or I'm just gonna just run straight towards the killer and just have them take me out of the fucking game right now. So this brings us to today where I don't know if this is actually the case or not, but if
Starting point is 01:07:32 you were to tell me on paper that there is going to be a team-based multiple people connect together and play footy soccer online together, I would say that rematch by slow cap clap has the potential to be the most toxic possible environment on planet earth just by nature of what the activity is and how many people are on it. But I don't know if that's actually the case. Yeah. So here's the thing. As we all know, soccer slash footy fans are very well adjusted, sober people who don't cause trouble. Totally not Asbos. None of them. It would be expected for the people playing digital soccer slash digital footy to be well
Starting point is 01:08:27 behaved and sober and I have been checking out the reviews for rematch. I'm sorry is antisocial behavior not a thing that's used anymore is that old school? Is that okay I I am not aware I am not aware excuse me use for rematch are this game is incredible only play it with a pre-made group the fucking mouth breathing idiots people that it will match you up to are so stupid they will ruin your game. Right. They're awful. Right. And I guess- And nature playing pickup any game. Okay.
Starting point is 01:09:08 Like in space. Did you, so you jumped on? No, I have not. Okay. Cause I need to know if there's an open mic lobby and I need to know if there are people yelling and I need to know if you could understand what they're saying.
Starting point is 01:09:24 And is it every language of all of the world? Right? Are we hearing the strongest Italian cusses and the biggest strongest Ingerlands and all of the Germans and all of the Brazilians going full speed at each other? Right? Because I kind of imagine that game has the potential. It's a fucking soccer game where you only control your one player, you know?
Starting point is 01:09:51 That can get infinite toxicity going. People are saying, yeah, you can open your mic and hear people from other countries. Okay, so you can get hit with caralo in one ear and sikia blat in the other. Good. At the same time from both sides, and you're on the same team. I'm thinking maybe if soccer wasn't so boring people wouldn't get so drunk watching it because
Starting point is 01:10:15 they'd actually get to be excited. Oh man. Yeah, well, you know, you get used to 0-0, I guess. And you know, you get used to things. Wow, you really gave it your all out there, boys. 0. Good job. The pitch is large, you know? And we got to sell these non-injuries.
Starting point is 01:10:43 Anyways, okay, well, beyond all that, play a little bit of that Hunter x Hunter Nen Impact game. Anyway, there's a bunch of new tag fighters coming, and that's gonna be crazy, and we'll talk about those in a minute. Boy, wow, so many choices. So many, so many games. There's a lot of those games.
Starting point is 01:11:03 Just like all of a sudden. It was just BAM. Yep I Think that was like it's gonna be us. There's no one to compete against us. Yeah That that hunter hunter game, I think is in trouble man. I think oh, yeah, it's in trouble I don't know the rollback is gonna be a nice offering but an trouble. I don't know. The rollback is going to be a nice offering. But Aiding is a company that works hard and makes good fighting games. They deserve a dub, but bad timing and not enough resources to give this the polish and love it needs. I think it's... We'll see. We'll see. I can't believe you're even bringing it up
Starting point is 01:11:46 at all yeah well you know just to say Marvel tokon season I mean we're gonna get into a couple more but anyways this week we're gonna jump back on yeah expedition 33 gonna get excuse me I think at least one session in, perhaps two depends, but like I'll post the schedule. I'm gonna be a little bit reduced and I'll announce other stuff a little bit later. But yeah, stay tuned to Wooly Wolves on my socials for the schedule. By the way, do you like pho? It's all right. New pho place. By the way, do you like Pho?
Starting point is 01:12:25 It's all right. New Pho place. I'm not like, if I'm like, if people are like, you want to go for Pho, I'll be like, yeah, let's get some Pho. But I'm not going to sit here and go, oh man. Okay. Because there's a new Pho place that opened up called Pho An Vu, which is right down by like Atwater, you know?
Starting point is 01:12:41 And it's pretty, pretty good soup. I mean, you know, Reggie recommended it and like after going, it was, it was quite tasty. But like looking at the menu, there was like, the item was like the pho bowl that had a giant, like, like bone broth rib of meat in it. And it was like, like oh that looks incredible Can I get one of those and they're like man?
Starting point is 01:13:14 There's like ten of these things every day in the morning and you got to be here when we open if you want one I see and you're like you got a line up To get on at there, you know, that's and know what? That line makes it taste better, I bet. Oh, I don't. It's the anticipation. Wake up in the morning pre-order line for the soup, dude. That's, oh man, soup Nazi style. Talking about that like that's new. That's a regular thing.
Starting point is 01:13:38 No, I know, I know. And like, depending on how hungry I am, I'll do the line in the middle of the day or whatever. There's some great places around that I'm lining up regularly for sure But like the wake up in the morning line is an extra variable there That's a that's an extra layer of like I don't know that I want my stomach full with first first thing You know crack at dawn, but that means you don't deserve it, but that's it But this is the only way to consume it because you can't if you buy it and wait till you actually feel
Starting point is 01:14:05 Like fall later in the day. Fuck that ain't fresh anymore, right? So you can only eat the best flavor version of this thing right in the morning when it's available. I'm like God This is you know, there's a there's a conflict here, unfortunately Anyway, it's good shit though full on voonvue was solid if you're in Montreal. Go check it out. Solid stuff. What's going on? I played some games, but before that, I would like to read a very small Reddit thread that
Starting point is 01:14:36 showed up on our subreddit the other day. About 13 days ago. I forgot to talk about it last week. Are you sure? Are you sure you want to read a Reddit thread? Oh I'm extraordinarily sure because I want you to weigh in on this. There was a thread made by one of Violet Myers who says, I made up a fake son to get out of work early and now every time someone asks me about him I just tell him a story Pat told on the podcast now what do I do?
Starting point is 01:15:26 Um, you- And he goes on in the thread that the next day people were asking him lots of questions. Oh, what you do is you cue the fucking curb your enthusiasm music because Jesus Christ did you pick the worst possible out for the- Oh my god. Jesus Christ, did you pick the worst possible out for the Oh my god. Okay. I never mind that like story in a way It's almost like what else in your life? Did you choose as a solution to problems that were so so minor that you decided to go nuclear? On the outcome without thinking two minutes into the future. Hold that thought. Someone in the comments responds, slowly switch from Pat's story
Starting point is 01:16:12 about his son to Pat's stories about Zangief and Caboose. Adopt a dog and then reveal that you were talking about the dog the whole time, right? Because you said, oh, my son, right? My son, my internet son. OP replies, okay, so here's the thing. I'm a compulsive liar, and I've already started to tell stories about my made-up dog with two broken legs. Oh! Oh! Okay, okay, okay, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, okay, all right, all right, mm-hmm. Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooo ooooo ooooo o o o o o o o o I don't know if I can get a new job like this one and that's the last thing they ever posted Okay, okay, okay
Starting point is 01:17:15 No, so so well what we have like stop all advice because like once you go What you say? Yeah, the problem is actually I'm a compulsive liar. It's like oh life is going to be difficult like the everything Oh, life is going to be difficult. Like, everything, whatever solutions you can find need to be things that you can apply to every other facet of your life socially as things continue to blow up around you because when people discover you're lying, they're gonna go, that's super weird. And everything that cascades from it
Starting point is 01:17:38 will happen continuously. Oh no. Okay, so listen. Everybody has four grandparents that can pass away when you need a day off, right? Everybody, you know, you just cycle through and you keep track, right? If you keep track. Inventing a fake child? You know what? I can respect that. You grab a stock photo off the internet that kinda looks like you. You just have to make sure that you never, ever, ever intend to ever hang out with these people
Starting point is 01:18:15 outside of work ever again. I mean, also you can go through the holiday Rolodex and be like, yeah, sorry, it's Sukkot coming up. And my mom was half know half Jewish so I gotta go that way or you got something else you know you just you select as you need to right and you know you can you can be like ah the wife I'm sorry my ex-wife custody I never get to see them blah blah blah you know blah blah blah you know all sorts of shit right when you have invented a fake dog
Starting point is 01:18:46 with a wildly specific disability that people are gonna, somebody pointed out in the thread, the fake dog's gonna fuck you up really bad because every dog owner carries around 100 photos of their dog, especially their disabled dog. Yeah, okay. That's where you're flying way too close to the sun. Because people are going to want to see
Starting point is 01:19:08 photos and videos of your fucking dog with broken legs, dude. Oh, is that flying too close to the sun and not the part where anyone who might happen to listen to this podcast would immediately expose? No one listens to this podcast. Trick question!
Starting point is 01:19:24 Listen, like like actually, actually, though, especially because you're just grabbing everything from one source and pretending it's your life. You need to just tell everyone, hey, sorry, I'm a compulsive liar. It's weird. I apologize. It's a thing. You got to just go. If it's not going gonna cost you your job If it's no you you gotta just come clean you gotta come clean
Starting point is 01:19:55 Really you're crazy. No, you're you're this this will go down The hole will dig forever and ever and ever right and now it is your now it is your burden to dig it It's too late. It's too late. What are the stakes? Is it just that people will think you're weird or will it actually cost you the job? So I've given you all the information present in that thread. But if you work somewhere and someone comes to you and goes, like, by the way, I've been faking a fake family, a fake dog.
Starting point is 01:20:24 And you know what? Fuck it. I've been faking a fake family, a fake dog, and you know what, fuck it, I've been faking my cancer diagnosis too. Well, hold on, but am I lying about being a compulsive liar? Or is that real? Because if that's real. You've gone too far because even if you don't get fired, like they'll make you leave. The social, the only thing you can do is lie more.
Starting point is 01:20:47 It depends on the job, I guess. Some places, it's like, OK, whatever. There's a bunch of people here. You might get socially weird, but it's not going to be a huge impact. Or if you're in a small office where everything's a super tight family and such, then that might have a larger impact. So yeah, I don't know if the situation calls for it.
Starting point is 01:21:04 But I feel like this is a corner, and this is delaying problems that you're going to have to face them. And there are a lot of people I know whose only means of dealing with anxieties and stresses are to kick the can down the road and just indefinitely kick the cans. And it's just like you can't do that or you can but then you can't be surprised when it explodes you can't be
Starting point is 01:21:33 yeah no I'm every it willy every person I've ever known that kicks the can down the road every time is always like a fucking astonished when it blows up in their face and you're always just like this was obvious Oh my good like like wow, it's the consequences of my own actions I just being said wooly no one ever got out of compulsive lying by telling the truth It's too late. Once you've already compulsively lied enough. There's no there's no saving you so what I like You don't know this podcast Because they're stealing bits and pieces of my life for their own benefit, I have a piece of advice for you. There's only one way to come back off this compulsive lying that you're a compulsive liar But say that you're a compulsive liar to cover up your fake
Starting point is 01:22:34 Substance abuse problem, which you will then get over Thus resetting you to zero Is it good advice? You're a drug addict or an alcoholic or whatever, but you're getting help and you're going down the steps and you're trying to do better and you're sorry about that. You were just making those stories up because you were actually strung out
Starting point is 01:23:04 and you, you know, you're embarrassed. Is it good advice? No. Is it funnier? Yes. Damn. Tough choice here.
Starting point is 01:23:13 You're telling me that's not going to cost him his job. You're telling me that the fucking truth is the problem, but saying that I'm a strung out drug addict as the real truth is not. You're saying an actual substance abuse problem is not going to cost him his job while the truth might what the fuck are we talking about? So no, you see you're blowing it up because what I'm trying to engineer here is I'm trying to engineer the issue in which this guy lies about being a drug addict to get out of the trouble for being a liar and then aces a drug test in which they're like aren't you supposed to be a drug addict and he goes
Starting point is 01:23:51 Yeah, I just do shit Assuming they give him if you're oh no if you're gonna get fired for being a liar just weirding the vibe There's not gonna be a test over you being an addict or something like that. That's even more severe on how they'll treat you. Any place that's cool with you being an addict will probably not fire you for being a liar.
Starting point is 01:24:15 You know what, Wully, you're right. I will addend, I will addend my solution to this person. This is, this is, who's this? Violet Myers, there is a solution. In order to sell the fact that you are an addict and that's why you're a compulsive liar, you should consider becoming addicted to alcohol, temporarily.
Starting point is 01:24:43 Temporarily, temporarily. So that you can beat it. Okay, okay, and then you have a victory story. And then you'll have your coin, you'll have your sobriety coin that you can get from Alcoholics Anonymous. And then you can be like, hey, I'm better now. Pat, this soul, the outcome of this soul is actually on you because you now have to tell stories about your life
Starting point is 01:25:11 Knowing that they will be X copied into the water cooler office discussion tomorrow And you have to choose the correct stories for this person You can correct the narrative, but it's all on you now person. Oh man. You can correct the narrative, but it's all on you now. They don't have a choice in the matter. They all just going to respite whatever you say. Tell your stories responsibly. I got to respond to a comment that I just saw, which is like, Oh man, Pat's kid is so fucked for advice. No, listen, listen, this is not the advice I would give my child. This is the this is the advice I give guy who steals my life story and dog story so that he can skip work, bro. I have no loyalty here to have good advice.
Starting point is 01:25:58 The thing so but it's not like if it was if it was just to skip work, like we're talking about a Okay, you're you're lying about why you're calling out And that's now that's an issue that your boss is gonna get on your ass about or whatever if they find that there's a consequence To your lie right you have lied for a purpose But if you've already sowed the seeds of lying about your dog for no reason, but simply just to do so That becomes like that what I remember talking to Paige about this. I'm like, talking about the disabled dog part, that's the part that will,
Starting point is 01:26:32 because if people are, listen, Willie, you're working at the office, you're working back in QA, and some guy invents a fake kid to get out of work. Yeah, almost, yeah. Oh, I worked with a few fucking egregious. I have a fake son that I used to get out of work. I don't know about you, but I'd be like, ah, it's pretty funny. You got them. I wouldn't feel any ill will or animosity. But like, ah, well,
Starting point is 01:26:59 everybody's got their hustle, right? But the fake dog is specifically to engender like an emotional response from coworkers. 100%. So now you're manipulating me. That will cause hatred. Anybody who finds out that you don't have a dog with broken legs is going to hate you because you manipulated them for kudos. For nothing. For absolutely nothing. 100%. You know? And I mean, look, there's the variance on this that I'm already familiar with I know there's the guy who
Starting point is 01:27:27 It's not lying about having a kid and going that far with it for whatever those excuses are It's more like you're a deadbeat that's not in their life But they do exist and you can prove it via photo So you just milk that aspect of it instead right So you just milk that aspect of it instead, right? Oh yeah, it's like custody, it's so real. A hundred! You run into them and you're like, I try to get him to spend time with the kids all the time and he doesn't give a shit.
Starting point is 01:27:50 You haven't seen them in a year, what are you talking about? You know? I miss them so much. That's a real person, you know? A hundred. But like, yeah, if you're already not lying for game, but just to get those... Just to do it. Oh, you're in not lying for gain, but just to get those. Just to do it.
Starting point is 01:28:05 Oh, oh, you're in deep. Oh, man. No, and if you have the awareness to already know you're a compulsive liar and identify that part, kudos, that's a first step of recognition. But man, there's a lot of pillars around, besides this job, that must also be on fire and collapsing collapsing and you need some solutions for getting ready for that in your life. You know, I say it's it's it's actually kind of sad because like you and I knew a guy who had had the worst I've ever seen in my life.
Starting point is 01:28:46 my life. And I like but like it's it's like it's it's like sad because it's like like every single thing every detail every event every story every every all of it it's like don't you lose yourself of self sense of self after a certain little while. Well it's just more like this is I always that I love I always talk about how much I love Shutter Island the Well, it's just more like this is I always I love I always talk about how much I love Shutter Island, the movie, because it's a really good movie. But I just I'm like, isn't there a point where like you crash into reality and like it something has to break?
Starting point is 01:29:16 Like what happens when you say something and as you're saying it right in front of you? It's like reality is the opposite. And everyone's watching it happen. You know, like what then? You know, I just, I need to know because how do you function? How did you get this far?
Starting point is 01:29:32 It's crazy. And it turns out in a lot of cases, everyone just kind of politely goes, yeah, okay. And just kind of dips that way, you know? Anyway, that's a rough one. There's no easy answers there. You know, I wish there was an L in there. Violet Myers, please, please post an update. I am so riveted. Now, of course, there's the possibility that this thread of course, in of itself, of course,
Starting point is 01:30:02 of lie, of course, but it's a good one. Sure it is well the good news is I have the update yeah what else happened with your week oh right baby's great he's the best little guy. He were at the stage. Hey, Meyers, are you listening? He's at the stage where he's now throwing, he's now full on milk please. And coloring please. Okay. Coloring, please. Okay Like full on please and thank yous And today I got hit with please milk, please. Oh, yeah. All right. Okay the It's getting through okay. Hold on you froze on a really funny frame now you're back
Starting point is 01:31:01 Damn I want to scream. All right. There, I wanted to screen it. All right. There we go. Got that pro-social behavior. It's feeling good. But that's it on baby news. Sorry, man. Don't have a crazy story for you this week. Please and thank you.
Starting point is 01:31:15 Not usually. I mean, you mayors. Right. Okay. Yes. But I played a couple games. The only one I really want to talk about at length is The Alters. Okay.
Starting point is 01:31:28 So I got this game for free. They sent me a code. So you probably saw a like maybe a 30 second one minute trailer of The Alters during one of the game shows and probably didn't pay all that much mind because the Trailer wasn't very good. No, but I do remember a bunch of clearly what looked like mocapped or facial captured people that looked like real people so the alters is Fantastic and it is a really fascinating
Starting point is 01:32:08 and it is a really fascinating sci-fi premise that it works very, very strongly and everything kind of forms this really nice cohesive whole of just everything works together and gels together really well because the game has a lot of disparate elements. So the long and short of it is that you are playing Yon D was it, Jan Dulski, and you are out in the far reaches of space doing space working man shit on some shithole planet, and everyone but you dies, and the sun rising on this planet will incinerate you, so you have to move your base.
Starting point is 01:32:44 But you're only one man. You can't pass and you have no real skills. So you have to find more people to crew your base. So corporate tells you to just start branching yourself. And the purpose of branching is that you look over the entire history of Jan's life and you look over all the major decisions which are all written out and how he felt about all of them. Things like turning a blind eye to crime in his neighborhood when he was like 14, to leaving home to go to college and not being home in time to help his mom pass away or what job he got after college and whether or not that led to stresses in his marriage and stuff like
Starting point is 01:33:32 that. And you get to pick one of those and go, what if I did the other thing? And then you get a completely new life path of all of the events written down and narrated. Interesting. At the end of that life path, you have the different version of yourself that would have gone on the mission, and then you take that parallel possibility and you clone it into a person and bring them online in your base. Interesting. And they go, what am I doing here? How did I get here? And the part that really sells it is the back and forth dialogue with
Starting point is 01:34:06 character with yeah yeah of you explaining what you have actually done to them yeah scenario you have put them in whoa that's a wild premise because some of them come out going oh why do you look like me and getting super pissed off that they've been ripped from their possibility quantum. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To be dragged in. I mean, there's the I'm like, I'm thinking of like, there's like multiple men. And then like, in invincible, you have like the mallard twins. But like, that's a pretty fucking cool premise right off the bat. Now, the genre is survival, it says. The genre is, it has many genres. So your primary gameplay is going to be wandering around a hostile environment and mining resources,
Starting point is 01:34:55 putting down mining expedition, and then connecting mining outposts to the base with survey poles, like a base building, very satisfactory light. But it also involves exploring and dealing with stalker type spatial anomalies, that kind of thing. But as you're doing that, your base needs constant maintenance and you need people to make things, you need to grow food, and your alters all have different likes and dislikes and things that they actually want. So like technician altar, so they become, you're Jan Dolsky and they all become Jan and then their title, which is Jan Technician or Jan Doctor or Jan Scientist. And they all want different things. So like one of the first things that happens is yawn technician is like, Hey, I'm eating mush and
Starting point is 01:35:49 I don't have a bed and I'm fucking mad about it. I'm not going to repair shit here until I have a bed and I have food. So then it becomes about managing the resources in order to build a dormitory, build a greenhouse. So now that I have a greenhouse, I need somebody to staff that greenhouse, so I need to get Yon Botanist. And Yon Botanist doesn't like being alive on the ship at all. They hate it. And resent you for their creation.
Starting point is 01:36:20 Yeah, that is a way more interesting take on multiverse versions of characters because we've seen a lot of, obviously, with recent movies and stuff, like open up a portal, here comes another version of you, yadda yadda. But the actual, like, no, there never was that alternate version. It was just simulated and birthed. No, this is just the me that could have been. That's really compelling. And you have to, like, they have a variety
Starting point is 01:36:46 of different types of questions, and one of them is like, well, where's my wife? And you're like, ah. Yeah. You have the options of like, she's at home on Earth, so you can sound. Yeah, yeah. Or your wife never existed.
Starting point is 01:37:00 Yeah, right, right, right, right. And then how that affects things. Okay, that premise is so strong, that strong that I'm almost a little bummed about it being by that genre you're mentioning, in the sense that I guess, like, so most of what you're doing is base building, survival exploration, resource management. No, it's split down the middle. Because I want full narrative of what you just described.
Starting point is 01:37:23 That sounds really, really cool. Because the narrative, so you're going back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. You're exploring, you're managing resources, you're trying to find the resources you need, then you're going back to the base to actually manage those into the materials that you need. But the materials you need are often the things these guys are asking for. And then you'll be out exploring and you'll find like, you'll find a rubber ducky that came crashing down with your luggage. And you don't have any strong feelings towards the rubber ducky at all. But scientist Jan tells you about how
Starting point is 01:38:00 the rubber ducky is who he would read his thesis to on various drafts in the version of him that existed in his perspective. And he starts to lament that he wishes you could have technologies that he invented on the ship, but they're from a quantum timeline that doesn't exist and that technology doesn't even exist. Yes. And that technology has never existed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that opens up research trees to have him recreate his old technology.
Starting point is 01:38:33 That was from elsewhere, right. No, that's super interesting. And I guess so the process of like, you know, doing these management tasks leads to your next story bits. Yeah. And so like the best example is the one I already used, which is like, OK, technician Jan wants food. OK, I have mush made out of organics. That's not really food. How do I get a cooked meal? I get a cooked meal by making raw food in the greenhouse.
Starting point is 01:38:58 OK, I've made the greenhouse. I don't have anyone to staff the greenhouse. So what do I do? I go back into my quantum computer and I look at the timeline of my life and that moment where my wife wanted to leave town to get a bigger job and a better job, and I said, no, I'm gonna keep my job.
Starting point is 01:39:16 And then I lost my job in the economic collapse. This time, we're gonna go with her and she's gonna make senior partner at that law firm and I am not gonna lose my job and we're gonna go with her and she's gonna make senior partner at that law firm and I am NOT gonna lose my job and we're gonna be fine and I'm gonna stay at home gardening all day and I will become yawn the botanist. Okay you have to- So you're pulling house husband out of a potential reality to make raw food for you on this shithole space station that he doesn't want to be on. You have to find the version that is that has a skill relevant to your need based on your life's decisions, basically.
Starting point is 01:39:51 Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Every branch gives you the full life story of that awesome yourself. And the most interesting part of that is that so you have your primary branch, which is just Jan Dolsky, and then, so oh, I branched about leaving home or going to college, right?
Starting point is 01:40:10 That's how you get technician Jan, right? But it's not all branching off of the primary path. There are branches off of technician Jan's life. Oh, shit. There are branches off of doctor. Yawns life. Oh, forks. You're describing forks now. Okay, because if we're using game build technology, where you're like, you make a branch to this project,
Starting point is 01:40:35 you fork at a point and have a completely separate thing that goes down its own pathway. That's wild. So it becomes, okay, what if I stayed in university and didn't take that corporate job? And then later it's, what if I fucking caved in my morals and faked some results or not? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:54 No, this is insanely interesting. Also, I think this is the fastest that the technology has been inherently fucking evil from the jump. There is no version of this that is ethical. With your altar is wildly depressing and very aggressive and it is very clear that you have crossed a line that you should maybe not have crossed and it is very bad.
Starting point is 01:41:17 Immediately. There's a bad technology. Yeah, you cannot make this ethical in any way, shape or form. It's bad technology. Even if it was making you yourself over and over again, you know Holy shit. Okay, and this is one of those things where you were like the the genre Is kind of a bummer to you because you're not big on survival There the it is constantly going back and forth
Starting point is 01:41:41 Informing each one about like your gameplay decisions into the narrative decisions and by far the most interesting thing about the game's gameplay versus its narrative is that so technician Jan repairs the base 50% faster botanist Jan grows food in the greenhouse a hundred percent faster you know these types Scientist Yon is the only one that can unlock research on your base. Stuff like that, right? Yon Dolsky, the player you actually control outside of the base, is the only person with no buffs. This means that the real Yon Dolsky is the worst version of himself across all potential realities. He is the only one who doesn't know how to do anything any better than anyone ever.
Starting point is 01:42:32 He's the worst. He's the worst version of himself, and he's the one in charge of making new versions of himself. I imagine, well, I'd say hit credits and see what happens there, you know, if that, but that's an interesting premise is like you need to start with vanilla ass tofu to start to add spice to it. You're dealing with, you're calling corporate and corporate is the slimmiest pieces of motherfucking assholes ever. And you get to argue with corporate for like long periods. And one of the most interesting questions you get to ask the head of mining is what's going to to these guys when we go back to earth? Oh get the fuck out of like and he goes, I don't know Yeah, like I'm not even asking the questions like oh what's the expiration date or what's the limitation or you know, like duh? Yeah. No, obviously
Starting point is 01:43:28 We know how this goes, you know That is that can go a lot of places. That's interesting. But definitely That is the most like yeah refreshing take on multiverse type shit Yeah, it's super cool, man. All right, super super cool. I Kind of love it. It's weird that it came out so recently because it is, I don't know if you've seen any footage of it, it looks just like Death Stranding. Yeah, I know. I've seen a bit there.
Starting point is 01:43:57 The blasted nightmare landscape and the backpacking man hoofing it through that shit. It looks like Death Stranding. Yeah, also, there's something cool about the genre that is just like, abandoned astronaut, whether it's like moon or the shoot, the whatever. The Martian. Well, the Martian, but I was also gonna say the game with the fucking generating, god it brain is soft whatever anyway a
Starting point is 01:44:28 returnal returnal yeah it no you know what it feels like if I actually said this verbatim when I was playing it this game feels like it has the gravitas of the story that returnal thought it did. Okay. Okay. I see what you mean. Yeah. And, you know, I mean, there's a couple of movies and shows and things that have been coming out that also feel like we cross into a little of this territory. So yeah, fun stuff.
Starting point is 01:45:00 Yeah, it's also, it has a lot of Soma vibes on it. Sure. You know, you're basically running through a conversation of Soma vibes on it. You're basically running through a conversation of a day of like, so am I real? And you're like, yeah. Thousand times resists, you know, folks saying good things about severance. I mean, fucking there's a lot. There's a lot of things going in this place. But yeah, that's a fun, cool idea. All right. The alters is what it's called. Yeah, The Alters.
Starting point is 01:45:26 It's really cool. It's super rad. I'm going to go back to it next week. But this week is all Death Stranding all the time. I'm actually going to be streaming Death Stranding today at twitch.tv slash Pat Stairs at about 4 PM Pacific. That's in two hours if you're listening to it live, okay It actually comes out in
Starting point is 01:45:48 on What Thursday is it so here's the thing about Death Stranding is so confusing to me one is the story but the second thing is This is a real show-off of how much older I've gotten in that the Death Stranding like literally snuck up on me. And I would look online like when's the when's the when's the release date? Oh, it's the 26th. Like, okay, so I marked in my calendar. Okay, good. And then I find out that if you put you buy the special boy edition for 10 extra dollars, you hit the game actually came out last night at nine o'clock. Ah, early release. And I was like, you know what, that's fine.
Starting point is 01:46:27 That's totally fine. You know, I'll just wait for it. And then Ludie, one Ludwig Forssolt, was like, yo, Pat, I got that code you asked for. And he sent me the email from SIE that was like, here's your Death Stranding code. You can stream it right now. I'm like, okay, well, schedule's changing now. Fuck it. Yeah. So now it's Death Stranding time now.
Starting point is 01:46:49 Thanks, Ludie. I love you, buddy. And Ludwig will be joining me tomorrow evening as a guest. We're going to talk about Death Stranding as we play Death Stranding. Hell yeah. Let's go. I look forward to that.
Starting point is 01:47:02 I can't wait. It's really funny when he sent me that email because like, so composing is like a big boy job. Like that is a genuine, a genuine like intelligent professional career in the arts. Right? And so you're like, oh, you know, it's this big boy composer here talking to me, and I'm just some dirtbag streamer shithead, right? And then he sends me the email that has the, you know, the embargo details on it.
Starting point is 01:47:33 I'm like, bro, you sent me it. This thing has no embargo. And he's just like, I don't know. I don't understand those forms. Great. Hell yeah. You deal with that stuff all the time. I don't know what that is. I don't know what that says. I don't know what that says Can you ask him a question for me? Yeah, sure ask him when he's on what he how he feels about Lurian test our
Starting point is 01:47:53 The the expedition. I think 33 just out of you right now the out of nowhere fucking first project ever now he was he was in some of the the streams I did for For expedition. Hell. Yeah. Okay. He's like this shit is great. He there was something more specific. He said something about the Forget what it was and I don't want to misquote him right but he the amount of music that L'Orient put out Had like it feels like he was, he was just given free reign and there were like a lack of version control or something to just go nuts
Starting point is 01:48:30 and make music if you wanted. So what I discovered is that he had been, so besides this obscure forum where the SoundCloud posting stuff happened. More like a Claire obscure forum. All right, I'm right. I'm sorry. Prior to that, when Laurier found the post for this project, he was working on for his just out of just for the fuck of it, he was making a song per week. And he in one year, he made 50 tracks just come on, right?
Starting point is 01:49:02 So he would he put just a self-imposed seven days to make a full song pressure on himself and did it for a straight year and created this incredible fucking library and then that's what Guillaume saw you know so like yeah the ability to make that in that level of soundtrack where he's got like 150 tracks or whatever you're just like he's already done this he's like apparently you know over 300 tracks it's insane it's insane and they're so fucking good yeah anyway so I just want to hear Ludwig just like fucking go on about that crazy shit for a minute cool that's awesome
Starting point is 01:49:39 that's pretty much it for me I'm gonna gonna be, uh, yeah, so I'm gonna be, uh, you know, Truckin' and walkin'. I-I plan on having the single most accurate and real-to-life Death Stranding stream of anyone to ever exist as I am a relatively new dad. Lou in that game looks about about almost the age of my guy, and also I will be, to my knowledge anyway, the only one streaming Death Stranding with a baby strapped to my chest the entire time. There is that. Granted, the baby will be my disabled pug Caboose here.
Starting point is 01:50:19 Yes. Joining us for today's podcast. Give me a kiss. Not floating in the liquid Yeah, well, I mean this although not this pouch is kind of like my uterus My wound although Lou's actually out now, so you know yeah, but yeah, well he's out too Now this dog is real so Myers if you want to tell people to check out your death stranding two streams where you strap your dog to your chest I highly suggest you don't give them the link. Because that'll just blow up in your face.
Starting point is 01:50:50 Who the fuck is Myers? Is that the name? It's the guy from the Reddit thread, bro. What was it? Violet? Violet? Violet. Okay, all right.
Starting point is 01:51:00 Yeah. Yeah. That's cool. And then I guess whenever you play Pragmata, you can find a way to do it over the shoulder instead. Yeah, maybe. That'd be tough. This dog, you know what? This dog really- That kid is fucking Mega Man, bro. Yeah?
Starting point is 01:51:17 Yeah! Mega Man's cool. That kid is Mega Man. There's a buster arm. Watch that kid. She just puts a Mega Man helmet on at the end and goes What do we talk why we there's there's e-tanks like there's fucking yeah, it's you know come on anyway Do we have dr. Wai we uh, but yeah, that's pretty much That's all that's going on with me. I'll talk to you about Death Stranding next week Probably probably a little bit. Okay. I
Starting point is 01:51:43 Can't wait to understand none of it and simultaneously all of it So I Don't think that's gonna be a problem Because I don't think I'm even gonna bother talking to you about the story next week seems like a fool's errand. Uh-huh I think I think the conversation we're gonna have next week is you're gonna be like, how do you like the story? And I'll be like, it's good. Spent the past three days building a highway to Mexico. Sure did. Also, DNAs. Still a thing. Yeah. Uh okay.
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Starting point is 02:06:43 We got a couple things. Let's get into them right off the bat. I'll tell you why quickly. You saying flaps made me realize that the kid makes fun of me for flapping now because I farted and the kid laughed at me and I said, sorry, daddy's butt was flapping. And now every time I fucking fart, the kid runs around flapping his arms like a bird going flap, flap flap flap Damn okay careful what you say I see I see
Starting point is 02:07:19 Yeah, I'm a little more. You know I'm a little more. I I have a little more compassion about it I'm a little graceful about about the drop in the bombs. I've had this discussion before. I tend to be selective. I'll remove myself from the situation. I'll find an area where I'll do the least amount of harm. Yeah, I think that, yeah. You are like that now, but then you'll have a two-year-old and you'll be like, hey, bud, check this out. Oh, oh, oh, no, because it is a sheathed sword. It is sheathed and I am keeping it. And the hilt is strong, right? I will whip it out when the time is ready. When you wanna go to war, you will feel this blade and it does not return until it tastes blood, okay?
Starting point is 02:07:59 Are you shitting your pants with blood? I am saying that if you if you attack me with with smells and odors and I drop a nuclear fart on your ass it is gonna ruin your day so I'm being shit your pants I am being kind I am being kind by sparing the family from the violence all right I don't start the fart battle. I fucking end it so until then just We're being nice Just if you have to do it just fart in your shirt, so it doesn't get it I Just I don't know how to go light. There is no there is no you know there is no little squeak ha ha
Starting point is 02:08:45 bombs bombs Terrible I've got more than I got more than I expected well you started I did I literally did and just like that and I end it yeah, all right. What do we got this week? surprise announcement This was fucking unexpected and cool. Shout outs to Arcforged. The homies over there, good people working on some fighting games behind the scenes. They have Origin of Storms, an original fighting game they're working on. They made Sonic Smackdown and then they got behind the scenes on Corrupt. They got behind the scenes on corrupt they got behind the scenes on
Starting point is 02:09:27 head to head and Now they've announced Sonic smackdown The update ultimate Sonic smackdown the free Sonic fighting game that basically is Marvel style and The main difference here is a 3v3 update to the game. Brand new. Yeah, new tag fighter coming out, entering the fucking fray, because there aren't enough of them. So, yeah, basically the Sonic Smackdown,
Starting point is 02:09:59 we had a lot of fun with that, playing it over, getting to fighting games a couple times, and it led to insane levels of pop-offs because you can Virgil with your shadow and do all kinds of nonsense dirt cross-ups and Sega is cool with Sonic fan games so they're way down to support and just or let that kind of thing rock. The announcement that there's a new... How many characters does it have uh Perhaps more than ten How could you put a fighting game out with more than ten characters as impossible
Starting point is 02:10:31 So in this tag slop era Ark Forge has entered the the situation and went yeah We got one too We've been working on and I can confirm that like having played a bunch of Sonic Smackdown. It's fucking sick as hell It's very fun. They know how to keep things like saucy and fast and crazy. So this is great. It's like, imagine if Sonic the Fighters was actually really fun and good, you know?
Starting point is 02:10:55 I don't understand that even concept. Right? That's ridiculous. So yeah, no, go check him out for sure. Shout outs to Arkforged. I'm looking forward to the other projects they got cooking. It's kind of like they're like the aiding or dimps of indie fighters because there were a couple indie fighters that were kind of like, they had earlier builds, they were kind of like struggling a little bit more and in in some cases, you know, you're not you're not quite getting that that the
Starting point is 02:11:29 bones to feel just right. And then you get into the new build and you're like, Oh, my god, there's a launcher into a dirty cross up into an OTG and the left right. And you're like, Yeah, okay, I know who got behind the wheels of this. I see who took over here. Yes, Ultimate Sonic SmackDown. Can't wait for that shit. And again, I just like that Sega has a policy of being like, yeah, do what you want, go nuts. That of course not being the only one, we also got an announcement, no video or trailer,
Starting point is 02:12:02 but screenshots. 2v2 tag team fighting game, Saturday AM battle manga. Wait, are you serious? Yes. Another one? Another one has hit. It's kind of endless at this point. Wow, the throne sat empty for too long.
Starting point is 02:12:20 Too long, everyone had the same thought at the same time and said this summer, this summer we're going for it. A hundred, like- Jesus Christ. Right? At first there were just, you know, there was the North going for it and then you had Casterly Rock
Starting point is 02:12:40 and now you've got some Targaryens and you've got the Ironborn are marching and like all the season five motherfuckers coming through Everybody wants the throne dude. It's nuts and You know I think if you had to like swear allegiance and bend the knee most folks would look over fucking toke on and go like look At that fucking thing. There's no coming back. You know, which there's a goddamn Arc System Works direct They're fucking weak exactly and they're about to announce a new game as well. What the fuck? We don't know what it is
Starting point is 02:13:13 But assuming that they're not talking about token dice gay has been working on another game Fucking Arc System Works versus Capcom. There you go And the thing is is they're making money, right? If they had the ability to get Strive, support it this long, get an anime going, moving into the Marvel space, like Arxis is fucking, they're building themselves up much bigger than they previously have before.
Starting point is 02:13:39 So yeah, getting into a new original thing that's from them or so, like, that's nuts. Also, I don't know that we've ever seen them, like, running three, four games simultaneously, you know, with teams or so. Typically, you kind of expect two, and like, oh, is there something that Team Blue is working on? BlazBlue team's on this, we got this going over here
Starting point is 02:14:01 with Team Red. Yeah, Arxys is fucking going big with it. Saturday AM is a comic publishing arm. And yeah, I didn't quite recognize any of the names listed here. It seems like it's kind of like an indie publisher, but there's a big, there's a 2v2 tag fighter coming from and like and it's got cell shading and you know, sure, let's see what they've got to add to the situation.
Starting point is 02:14:33 So yeah, the flop, the tag flop is just getting started. Tag flop, excuse me. That's ridiculous. Hey Willy, quickly before we go out Do you have the monster hunter wild thing on the docket this week? No, so monster hunter wilds on steam has hit overwhelmingly negative reviews Word and you're so you want to know why you want to have a hazard of guests to random guests I mean did they update and fuck up some sort of balance,
Starting point is 02:15:07 or like micro? Close, close! Charging for G-rank? So you worked in QA, right? Mm-hmm. So what would happen if your game that already performs like complete shit, updated, and the performance got way way
Starting point is 02:15:26 Oh go fuck yourself. That's that is and then they put out the guide that I just sent you Which is the manual steps they want players to go through to delete their shader cacher Oh going to global settings and going into disk management settings in Windows. Oh No settings and going into disk management settings in Windows. Oh no. Can't hold on a minute though, but like when you got to do. Can't they just force a recompile? That's what I'm saying. When you boot up Street Fighter.
Starting point is 02:15:53 I don't know why they won't. They won't. When you boot up Street Fighter and something changes, it just forces a recompile, exactly. No, the update they put out fucked up the shader cache bad enough. Oh. They are telling you to do it yourself. Exactly. The update they put out fucked up the shader cache bad enough. Oh.
Starting point is 02:16:06 They are telling you to do it yourself. Okay. So that's something pushed live that shouldn't have gone live, basically. And yeah, the game runs way worse now. And it ran terrible before. This should never happen. Oh man. And is this one of those things where someone goes like, oh yeah, go to this INI file, delete
Starting point is 02:16:23 this line, the whole thing runs fine, you know? You have to go into the shader cache folder and delete it manually, but the steps they give you include using Windows Disk Cleanup. Oh god. Shader cache from the fucking, like, fucking piles. And here's the thing, someone in the chat was like oh, when are they gonna put?
Starting point is 02:16:48 One when are people gonna remove those reviews like most people don't know That this advice is ever gonna happen most people are just gonna go the game runs like shit now And it's always gonna run like shit I Mean not on console force the update yeah to force the update if you know if you're not on if you're if you're on console probably not but like yeah that's that sucks man yeah absolute buffoonery that the game with bad performance is getting way way worse performance now and like wasn't wasn't
Starting point is 02:17:23 the switchers original Switch thing of Rise like also got grief over how fucking. Oh, ran like shit. Yeah, so. Run like ass. Return to your original form. Okay. The last good performing Monster Hunter game
Starting point is 02:17:37 was Monster Hunter 4U on the new 3DS. Okay, beyond that, they dropped trailer for. Oh, yeah. I don't know. Do you have any interest in Neverwinter Nights 2? Yes, I do. Yeah. Enhanced Edition. I remember so I didn't play games that run like shit, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:17:58 Winter Nights 2 just ran like ass on everything on everything. So this is one of those games where I didn't play, play but my brother did and I remember watching him you know going through it and yeah our computer was not the strongest you know but this pushed it for sure. It was made bad like the game was made bad that's why I ran like shit also that game's super cool but like almost no one played it because like it just it hit the weirdest time of modernizing 3D graphics with those third edition systems and just like, I fucking, it's a mess. So, fortunately, this re-release, or this enhanced release has cross-play co-op.
Starting point is 02:18:34 That's crazy. That's really, really cool. And that's a great way to, yeah, encourage if anyone's picking this up anywhere, the ability to not have to worry about what platform you're on is great. I just, I wanna give that flowers. Every time I see Crossplay- What dude has partial controller support? Are you fucking kidding me, dude?
Starting point is 02:18:55 Anytime I see Crossplay as a feature on things, I wanna give some flowers out for that. That's fucking great. Encourage that shit everywhere, all the time. Yeah. Coming out July 15th. Cool. The yeah, just don't, who cares?
Starting point is 02:19:16 Get it on whatever you want. Is just, sweat off everyone's fucking bribe. Enjoy smoother game play with a fine camera, polished mechanics, enhanced textures, full controller support with a new controller UI Yeah, dog pad play pad play for this old ass. That's so good for these old games steam deck NetEase announced a giant triple-a, you know one of those It's it's kind of interesting because the this game is called Blood Message.
Starting point is 02:19:52 Let me see here. Yeah. Big cinematic trailer. And it's one of those games where like the trailer is for Blood Message. It's so cinematic that like I'm like, so when I can. The camera's over the shoulder shoulder but you're kind of just like what genre are we gonna land on here are we gonna lean towards souls are we gonna go towards you know what kind of combat because it's just it's all set piece cinematic moments and like there's a there's a brief moment where it looks like you're kind of doing what you might call it, for honor style combat. You
Starting point is 02:20:28 see a couple swings that are like over the shoulder a little bit slow and like, you know, a little bit of clunk to it. So it doesn't seem like it's necessarily full on souls or full on Wukong or any of that stuff. But it just feels weird to watch like a lot of the you know the new sort of like These trailers that come out and you're kind of like I can't tell what genre of video game. This is is until We get to send my hands Well, yeah because you're like you get two seconds of the person swinging and where the camera is at the speed of the swing and how
Starting point is 02:21:04 It hits the enemy might give you some information, but this might as well just be a full cut scene that we're watching type of thing. Yeah, Hellblade also comes to mind with a little bit of a slower paced thing. But yeah, let's see what's up. China's got another action game coming out. No release date yet.
Starting point is 02:21:24 And I think, did I see box art for Lost Solicide, I think? Maybe. Yeah. Anyway, there's that. And then there's the Silent Hill porn parody screenshot return to silent hill resurgence stuff is to push this movie is it is that the reason why yeah dude that's crazy and
Starting point is 02:21:59 and the first thing we see of it just looks like fucking god-awful trash. So a screenshot of the new Silent Hill movie was released and it is, yeah, Return to Silent Hill is the name of the film and it's James and Maria and the outfit and the it's just what like again people are calling it the porn parody screenshot because you're like what the fuck are you doing like? This is so weird the costume and the casting choices are super off That wig is crazy, dude
Starting point is 02:22:35 What are we doing with that wig? In theaters January 23rd Yeah, that'll be great. That'll be great. So the the the previous two Silent Hill movies jackets like so bad The the previous two Silent Hill movies were all Harry Harry didn't exist. Oh wait, we talked about this Harry? No, Harry didn't exist. Oh, wait, we talked about this. Harry, no, Harry was replaced with Rose because the writer thought that a man
Starting point is 02:23:19 looking for his child was too feminine. Okay, okay, it's coming back. It's coming back. We had a discussion about it feminine. Okay, okay, it's coming back. It's coming back. We had a discussion about it before. Yeah, okay. All right, well, that's crazy to do a really good remake of an old game in order to promote a really bad like film adaptation.
Starting point is 02:23:42 That's nuts, dude. But I guess it stands to make a ton of money because they always do. Like a film, a version of anything can just sit there and, you know, on streamers is the equivalent of like sales at Walmart, you know. Ever since we learned that like the fucking Street Fighter movie made infinite dollars for Capcom. That's really funny.
Starting point is 02:24:05 You're like, yeah, the the effort meant it was worth it, I guess. Anyway. Well, the director of the movie who said that is directing return to Silent Hill. So it wasn't the writer Roger Avery then that it was Christophe Gans from Brother Her little Wolf. Ah. And so wait even like Silent Hill F and all these other things like these new games that might be really good Just fucking fluff on the side Crazy when they when they announced all these things they announced the movie and then they kept talking about the movie And then they said also there's these games and these games will help get excitement for the movie God konami silent hill is back in movie form.
Starting point is 02:24:48 I mean, you know, look, we were seeing this return effort that Konami's putting into like acknowledging their games again and stuff and God bless, it's better than them being dead, you know? But like, it still just that, God, it's always gotta be fucking about, it's always about a fucking movie. It's always about something else, you know?
Starting point is 02:25:06 Here's the weird one. The one that makes me so confused, we have six seasons of a Castlevania TV show. We have Castlevania in Dead Cells, we have Castlevania in Vampire Survivors, we have Castlevania in vampire survivors. We have Castlevania in dead by daylight. And you would expect me to say that that was building up to a new Castlevania game, but it's not. No, we have re releases of the Dominus collection. We have re releases
Starting point is 02:25:39 of portrait of ruin. We have re release. There's a re a re-release of fucking Lords of Shadow right now. How are they supposed to troll your reactions to a bloodstained game live on stream if they actually release in real Castlevania? There's also a Castlevania expansion for V-Rising as well. Yeah. Why don't you just take your heart and just put it in into the thing over here bloodstained or it exists and it's it's coming out. I felt like such an asshole when they showed off the bloodstained sequel thing. I saw. Oh you actually saw? I saw that clip, yeah. Cause I was soooo excited. No fucking way.
Starting point is 02:26:23 And then as soon as I, oh it's not Dracula. Oh, I don't care No shot he was correct there was no shot All right, let's take some letters If you want to send in a letter send it to castle super beast mail at gmail.com. That's castle super beast mail at gmail.com That's castlesuperbeastmail.com. Let's take one. Tell me to shut up about Dracula. I love Dracula. All right.
Starting point is 02:26:45 All right. So we got one over here from Commando Joe says, I realize we have a lot more terms for new games than in a series now. Remakes, I'm GS3 Delta. I'm GS3 Delta. I'm GS3 Delta. I'm GS3 Delta. I'm GS3 Delta.
Starting point is 02:26:53 I'm GS3 Delta. I'm GS3 Delta. I'm GS3 Delta. I'm GS3 Delta. I'm GS3 Delta. I'm GS3 Delta. I'm GS3 Delta. I'm GS3 Delta.
Starting point is 02:27:01 I'm GS3 Delta. I'm GS3 Delta. I'm GS3 Delta. I'm GS3 Delta. I'm GS3 Delta. I'm GS3 Delta. I'm GS3 Delta. I'm GS3 Delta. So we got one over here from Commando Joe says, I realize we have a lot more terms for new games than in a series now. Remakes, MGS3 Delta, Ivalice Chronicles, Remasters, Last of Us, Last of Us 2, Last of Us Again, Reboots, DMC Devil May Cry,
Starting point is 02:27:17 Re-release, pretty much everything digitally ported, Remakewell, a remake that's also a sequel, like FF7, you know? With these various types of re-games, if you could pick one for each slot, what would you pick? I'd love to see all the Mega Man Legends games in a full remake now that Capcom has around 20 years of third-person action games under their belts.
Starting point is 02:27:44 I mean, Mega Man Legends is a pretty good place to go. That deserves some treatment there. I like Mega Man Legends. I think the remake will, like, we don't, like, Ava did it, FF7 did it. I think anything else doing it in not a particularly clever way is just not gonna work as well. I think Evangelion did it and no one has done it as good as Evangelion. It's just not even close. That's it right? Like I'll give a passing mention to the Star Trek movie that was like alternate reality version thing.
Starting point is 02:28:20 Okay cool. That's, I think that's an interesting thing. At the time it was never done. You know, The reason why Ava got away with it is because it took like you've 10 years to figure it out. FF7 people had it figured from the trailer. It was clear. But there's also that part of me that goes like as much as I would love Mega Man Legends to get like, you know, picked up off the ground and have the dust blown off of it.
Starting point is 02:28:42 I would love a just a new one that like Even without Inafune? I know right? God that would be god. Whoa Could you imagine the game actually existing and coming out and being good? Like wow No I just don't uh yeah I can't be necessarily say that I'm like I need to see that remade or requilled or whatever instead of just like a new game that picks up where we left off and uses the previous lore to establish things and go forward into a new direction.
Starting point is 02:29:12 New things good. I'd be more than happy to just have a cleaned up, re-released version of the entire Legacy of Kain series. The voice acting? Not just Soul Reaver 1 and 2. What about voice acting though? version of the entire Legacy of Kain series. The voice acting? Not just Soul Reaver 1 and 2. What about voice acting though? No, when I say cleaned up, I literally mean like
Starting point is 02:29:33 new sprites for Blood Omen and a playable version of Defiance. So I mean like master tops. Re-release, re-release, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay. Yeah, I mean again, as long as you can get everyone like, you know paid for for using That might be tough you can throw the talk to the estate I think maybe half of those people are dead talk to the estates, you know in question and and see what's up, but Yeah, those are legendary performances. What are you supposed to do? You know?
Starting point is 02:30:08 Or I guess recast which is you know that's the other no I would rather they buy a scorched the shit from my mind I and that's the thing is like until you hear a really good person do the recast you kind of want to fight that forever No, and I'll ever be Tony J ever again He's he's goaded man. He's goaded, man, he's goaded. Forever in your brain. All right, let's take one over here. Asking, hello short dad and tall dad, I've recently been letting my six year old son
Starting point is 02:30:39 play video games on my Switch. At first I was worried which games he would play, but he's been supervised by me choosing Harvest Moon 64. It's the only game he cares about. Do you have any recommendations for low stim?" So we were talking about this a little bit. I mean usually I would actually just say use your eyes. Right? So when I got my nephew a Switch a long time ago, he was like seven, and I got a Breath of the Wild for it, because Breath of the Wild is slow as shit, and wandering and meandering. Right?
Starting point is 02:31:10 Yeah, I can see, I mean, it has its moments, certainly, but I can see, I mentioned Ballotra a little bit before because it's like, ooh, during the rewards it's going crazy, but for the most part you're fine. UFO 50's probably got tons of good things on that. Animal Crossing is gonna be great. Yeah, I'm thinking about this little collection of low-stim games myself, you know? You're kind of safe to a degree
Starting point is 02:31:37 on a wide variety of Nintendo games. I wouldn't say Mario Wonder, wonders about explosions and shit like that. But like, give them fucking Mario Mario Odyssey most it's fine. Most of that most of that will go fine. I imagine You know, yeah, I could see like a fucking Star Fox game Maybe go on a little bit like why you know, but the main thing isn't gonna be remember I only have a barely to like he's not even to write? But the way me and Paige are gonna play it by ear is, every individual kid's reaction to levels of stimulus
Starting point is 02:32:12 is gonna be different. Willie, I am 100% certain that you knew kids in elementary school and high school that if their mom and dad let them watch wrestling even once, they would go crazy. It's over. Fight kids the next day. Yes, yes, I fought those kids.
Starting point is 02:32:25 Yeah. So like every individual kid's tolerance and resilience is gonna be different. So like, give them like a Mario Odyssey, right? And if your kid starts to go nuts and be like, I don't want to do anything but Mario Odyssey, like you need to coal turkey that shit for like a year. If they're happily playing Harvest Moon and you're like, you want to cold turkey that shit for like a year. If they're happily playing Harvest Moon and you're like you wanna go outside and they're like yeah cool, great. And fortunately I can say Kirby has a lot of places to go as well, Kirby games are pretty solid all around on that.
Starting point is 02:32:57 Yeah, but I imagine the low stim playlist will come back in short form very quickly as we figure out what she's into. Alright, that'll do it for us. Call it. Alright, I'm playing Death Stranding in an hour live. Go to this thing. Also, everyone else have a good week. Wait, no. I mean, everyone should have a good week, not... I'm implying that I don't want the people who are gonna come to my show to have a good week everyone everybody especially that one person who's gonna have the exact same week as you that's crazy that's crazy no follow-up questions no follow-up questions Thanks for watching!

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