Castle Super Beast - CSB328: I LIKE BEDMAN feat. Mori Calliope

Episode Date: July 8, 2025

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["Sailor Moon Theme"] Hello, welcome. Also welcome Deadbeats. Yes. Deadbeats. Hey. Deadbeats. Yes. Hey, we are joined today by Calliope Mori. How you doing? Hello. Hi everybody. I guess I should introduce myself.

Hi everybody. Mori Calliope here from Hololive English Myth First Generation of Hololive's English Branch. I'm a VTuber. I'm a virtual singer. I'm a gamer. Hi. If you a virtual singer. I am a gamer. Hi If you don't know me now you do hope that we can all get along and have lots of fun I am honored to be here with two people that

honestly, I have been watching for many years and Y'all's voices accompanied me through many many all-nighters trying to draw comics in high school and college, so thank you so much for having me. I just ought to be here. Yeah, no, feel the age, Pat, feel the age. Oh, it's bad. Let it. Oh, it's real bad.

Just let it turn to dust, yep. Oh, it's real bad. Thank you so much. I have the pillow in a, in a, in a, in a papoose and I have the toddler, but that Hey before we go any further Buddy, I gotta ask I'm gonna just get this right out of the way. Do you prefer Maury Callie? What?

Um, so my friends call me Callie. I call myself Maurice. You can go with Callie. I mean Yeah, you know, sometimes people say Morrie Calliope. Yeah. It's kind of long. Yeah, I'm happy to be here. Thank you so much, you guys. And you're a gamer with a capital G. You've underlined it, I heard it, I heard it. Yep, what I do.

I mean, I wasn't a gamer before I got into holo, but now I'm a certified gamer. Really? So what I mean, I wasn't a gamer before I got into holo, but now I'm a certified gamer. Really? So what I do, pro-pro-pro-pro-quote-unquote, I will say. There was definitely some growing pains for me. When I started off, I was definitely, I had the reputation of being the least gamer out of everyone in my generation, because I was more focused on other activities, I guess, like singing, karaoke, stuff like that,

but no, now I'm a certified gamer thanks to my fans who have really helped me channel the gamer energy, I guess, thank you so much, everyone. You know who you are. I mean, you jump in a Guilty Gear lobby and you'll become one real quick. Oh yeah, I think I've won maybe one fight against all of my fans.

Let's go single Even a little no absolutely not they want me to learn well, that's I appreciate that's basically my record You know I mean we're out here. We're doing it Bro you're gonna have to learn you're gonna have to learn to learn to let the child win a little. Like at the start. Just a little. At the start.

Just to get that little breadcrumb going, right? Yeah, or else you'll stop playing. Sorry, Deadbeats. Sorry I don't play Strive anymore. Shoot. FYI. You didn't let me win enough. Deadbeats is a pretty sick name for a fan base.

That's pretty cool. I really like it. I'm just discussing it. I ain't talking about that last night. And it just makes me remember how terrible when. Don't do it. I'm never gonna not throw you under that bus. When back with Super Best Friends,

this fucking guy was like, oh we need to come up with a name for the fan base, what about Frenders? You know why I said that, Wully? Do you remember why? Because of Cashern and his dog, Frenders. Because of Cashern's his dog friend or stupid dog Frienders is the worst

It's the worst name for fans ever stop Okay, you were ahead of your time though I feel like the fan base naming thing is it's kind of more on the recent side in the past like six years You say you had your time I mean in the past like six years or so. You had your time. For real, there. It didn't work, though. It didn't work. Didn't stick. No.

And to this day, we're still trying to seek one out. I don't know, Beasters or? I just called the people who show up in my chat early on just like a bunch of names. Yeah? Bunch of names, yeah. Okay. I had a really awkward interaction

where I was doing a co coast stream with Ashley Roboto, who is a wonderful angel. She's just one of those sunny, wonderful people that's just always positive. And so you hang out with one of those people and then you become more positive. And then I'm like, okay, bye Ashley. And I, you know, we cut the call, but I'm still live. And I wasn't paying attention and didn't realize that she had raided me during this time. And as soon as I clicked that like, end call button, I started just going, oh, thank God.

I can go back to my usual complete garbage. Orb form. Goblin piece of shit. And just started like cussing out my chat like for like 10 minutes. Only for them to tell me like, everyone from Ashley stream is in here, bro Like we can see you the jigs up God man, that's freaking hilarious How did you how did you like truth? Yeah? I mean, I don't know how you landed on dead beats, but

That's yeah. I mean, I'm the Grim Reaper. Yeah, that's it. I mean it's gonna happen I love music and beats there you go right beats and they're my skeleton army Yeah, I mean, I'm the Grim Reaper. Yeah, that's it. I mean, it's gonna happen. I love music. And beats. There you go, right. And beats, and they're my skeleton army. I have the coolest fan base because they're just an army of skeletons. Like couldn't be better.

Couldn't be better than that. For a while I was liking, I don't know, Pat, I think I tried to, I was pushing the Lords and Ladies of Castle Superbeast, you know. That's kind of cute. But it's too long, but it doesn't have that, you know, that quick grab to it, so. Yeah, I get what you mean. But yeah, okay, so first off, how tired are we?

Like, eye bag check. Oh, it's so bad over here. How's it going? Oh God. Kelly, let's start with you. Yes. What are you up to and how exhausted are you coming to this show? Well, right off the bat,

I made the great, excellent decision to go to California to attend Anime Expo just for fun. People are all like, my producer's like, oh yeah, are you going to do something, like a side thing or a side show or something? I'm like, no, I'm just going to hang out. It's a little embarrassing to admit, but I just felt like, I don't know,

I wanna hang out with some friends I haven't talked to in a while, and one of my friends had a bunch of panels happening here, wanted to go hang out with her and her crew, and show them around if I could. It was a good time, but I'm ready to go home. I have really bad jet lag. Every time that I come back to America, it sucks so bad. You sure you're in the US right now?

I am, I am. You're doing the podcast on your trip? Well, yes. So that's why I'm- What are you doing? That's what I'm- You're supposed to relax. Well, that's why I was saying,

like, yo, thank you so much because it's like, otherwise we would be doing the triple time zone, like trifecta, which is absolute chaos. So instead- Oh, no way. It's not that bad. But it's- If you're on the West coast, it's not that bad.

Well, somebody has to die. That's like- No one has to. Someone, some- It's you. Yeah, someone's in a horrible time zone that has to die. And I guess it would be me. In this case, you know, it happens to work out but um, you know

But your jet lag so super appreciate it. Oh, yeah, no problem. I mean honestly, I'm cool with time zones back in the day I did like I ran like a TT RPG with some of the other girls in my generation And I was I was DMing and I was the one that said well, I'm the only ones in Japan So getting up at 6 a.m. Here I go. No problem Okay, okay Yeah, we're on the street is you got no chill you just go Yep, I uh, I can't relax. It's it's it's it's fun. It's fun working is fun for me. I love being a content creator It's like the best blessing of my life.

I'm just happy to be here, and that's it. I was literally having this exact conversation eight, no? Nine hours ago. Oh yeah? Because I streamed every single day this week, and then Paige, Peach the Live, and my wife, my wonderful darling wife, Amazing Lady, was playing New Vegas, and I'm like, oh, can I play some Death Stranding 2 afterwards?

She's like, it's your only day off. I don't really care about that. So I started streaming at 10 PM. And I'm like, well, I got a big day tomorrow. I can't go too long. I got a podcast. I got things to do. I got chores.

And I usually am the one who wakes up in the morning to take care of the baby when he wakes up at seven in the morning. And then at two in the morning, two or three in the morning, I got raided with a massive raid as a form of fellow streamer violence. Oh yeah, that 2 a.m. raid. You got it. The East Coast raided me at 2 o' three a.m. Oh, you can't stop now, baby

You gotta keep it going Six times the numbers I was at 2 a.m. Cool 45 minutes on this The wife going where are you? What are you doing? going where are you what are you doing I'm working my job what do you think I'm doing? I'm creating value! Raids can be violence oh yeah 100% I mean they just implemented them into YouTube I say that but they've been doing it for like a year and a half honestly one of my favorite things just happy things they put in there I mean like so so yeah, we're trying to burn the candle

at both ends, and for the most part already, and now, as I was mentioning, like, I'm about to try to take notes from Pat over here. I'm about to introduce a child into the situation, and I don't know how that's gonna affect things, but. My notes aren't good for you, though. Well, no, I mean, the thing is, I was already saying, I'm a night person, right?

I stay up late, I have a horrible night schedule, and I was on the verge of fixing that, but now it's like, no wait, don't fix it too soon. We might need that. You'll need that. Stay in this unhealthy zone and take the night shift, right? Just for now. It'll be, it'll be. You know, take advantage night shift, right? Just for now.

It'll be, it'll be... You know, take advantage of that. Yeah, um, I'm, I'm afraid. My notes don't work for you, right? Cause my note is like, you know what you should do? Stream while your wife's in labor. Ah, right. That's what you should do.

Right. So the reveal the other day that like, she was like, nah dude, go stream and- Oh yeah, she made me leave! She was like gonna ask the nurses to like remove me, because I had like a sponsored gig for Double Dragon. You can go- And she's like, get out of here and go make some money for this baby! It's crazy.

You can see his face like just like acting like he's like, I'm just reacting to the game and it's like, my wife is giving birth right now faith it's psychotic it's fucking crazy not it was not content is what it yeah I want to go see that so I mean Pat we were chatting a little bit earlier and like the the whole thing about like oh so we've been we started doing this shit, sticking a camera at the TV, no actual faces, old USB. Garbage. Absolute garbage, right? I was, you know, when the mic switched over to these

from USB, people were like, what the fuck, go back to the uglier mics, I can't handle this, right? The whole, like, what do you even go into the future? How do you do this into the later years? We don't know what this looks like, Calli. We don't know how you age and stream and baby. This is uncharted territory, you know?

Oh my god, that's crazy. Well, Calli gets to dodge at least one of those because you're not aging, I can tell. I'll never age. This is true. No, I mean, I'm the Grim Reaper. It doesn't work like that for me. I could just be like this forever I'm very lucky that I have it that way But I will say you know you bring up a really good point

And this is something that I know wanted to mention during this podcast here But you guys you guys give me hope like it sounds like it's like a No, no, no, no, no. Damn you, Sue. Oh, don't do that. Give me a second to explain myself here, okay? Give me a sec. Look, about a year ago I got into this really existential phase where I was like,

it's so over for me in two years, I can keep this up for about two more years and then right it's back to Walmart for me It's a back to you know waitress waitress job awesome waitress job I used to have that's what that's what it's gonna be because that's how content creation is But then I think about you guys y'all are still but if you chuckle fucks can keep the wagon wheels spinning somehow the wagon wheels spinning somehow bar I've got like hey look at these guys somehow they're jobs and they managed to keep their livelihood

half the people here are like they're still alive the what? I got that every day I got that last night someone was like bro what happened to you? them? I've been streaming unbroken for 12 years. Oh my god.

Oh, I fucking this. What do you mean what happened to you? Yeah. I got wilder to check it in. What's going on? No, for the record, I've been checking in. I would see something that you guys said or like a video that you guys

Put out there, and I just smile and be like oh man. They're still out there doing cool shit. We're fucking maybe there is hope Maybe there is hope we're cooked bro content creators. We're cooked beyond cooked. It's over. It's done This is like the new generation is like the new the the the the Yeah, try a generation from the future is going look look Still doing it and and and oh god. Yeah. Well, so look we'll get into How we interface with the new generation, but. Oh yeah, I'm super curious about that. But like, have you been,

Kallie, have you been playing anything recently or checking anything out? Is there any media that's top of mind? Oh man. Oh my god, I had a couple of notes that I made here, like I was making some memos, but I realized the games that I've gotten into, like it's really kind of sad

when I go and scroll through my channel. I'm like, all right, what have we been playing? Pokemon, Pokemon, Pokemon again for six hours. Night Rain, Pokemon, Night Rain, Night Rain, Pokemon. Doom the Dark Ages. Okay. Pokemon, Night Rain, Pokemon. And I'm thinking to myself,

did I not like Doom the Dark Ages? If I only played it once and I kept going into my other loop of games Yeah, I'm just kind of like I when I wake up in the morning I'm like what do I want to play doom the dark ages? Oh, maybe just Pokemon again. I had that exact feeling It wasn't with Pokemon. It was just like I don't really want to keep playing doom the dark ages ah The shield looks cool. But yeah.

It is cool, the shield is the best part of that game. Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like it, but I just like the others a lot more, I think, is how I'm feeling. I'll give it another shot, but. How's your night rain? What's your health on?

Oh yeah. Night rain's good for me. We'll talk about the Doom the Dark Ages, because I do wanna ask you guys this honest opinion about it, but for Night Reign, that's another one I wanted to chat with you guys about because I'm really liking it a lot.

I know it got a lot of flack in the beginning, but I'm genuinely like, I'm having a good time. I haven't beaten the last boss yet, but it's gotten to a point where I'm like, right, I'm playing with dead beats. I can't really judge how actually good I am at this game because those guys are kind of cracked. Annihilating it.

If y'all are gonna carry me through the game, then I'll let you carry me through the game and let's just enjoy playing together I guess. But I like it, it's fun. That was my opposite feeling about that game. Oh yeah? When I was playing with people in chat and when I was playing, I playing with with Gene over at Washington Post

Gene Park, I love you and I was running into this issue where I'm like I'm a terrible co-op partner Because I'm the kind of person who either wants to completely dictate everything that you do and I want you to be a robot that falls Right or I'm gonna get really emotional When I either screw up or I see you screw up. I'm just gonna build it inside and I'll have to be this. FF14 player, by the way. Could you tell?

I can tell just from that description. That's a different conversation. When they rebalanced the game for solo play, it's just been something that I've been picking away at because it's like, if I screw up, I go, oh darn, I died. I don't have this pit in my stomach of like, I let everyone down, oh my god. Ah.

Mm-hmm. Yup. I just. I can't deal with it. What I like about it is how it scratches the unique itch of like, I want some souls, but I want some pocket arcade souls. Like I just want a quick hour and a half of it. You know, in a like, it's scratches a different

itch, you know, when I kind of am in the mood for like a quick game, sometimes I'll find, well, yeah, it's a great time to load up a fighter or like load up something a little more, you know, jump in and jump out. And like, usually a souls game, you know, or like an Elden Ring, you know, jump in and jump out. And like usually a Souls game, you know, or like an Elden Ring, you're popping it in for the long haul. And this kind of fits into another space where I usually wouldn't think about a Souls game, you know? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Definitely.

I definitely like that. I like that it was you just you can start completely over from the beginning again, and it's just it's whatever. I don't have to worry too much. You have your relics, but that's about it. I like that. It was my first time getting into that kind of game and like, God forbid I try a game like Fortnite

or something like that. And I know a lot of people with the Fortnite comparisons. I've played Fortnite once in my life. You should play more Fortnite. That's one more. Both of you. That's one more than me. Both of you should play more Fortnite.

That's one more than me, Kali. Like, you know, I'll tell you what. I was playing Fortnite and duos with Suzy, and we were running people over and getting Victory Royales. It's super easy, because you are playing against children. You are shooting kids. It's easy. Yeah, true, easy.

Teach them their place. Like, yeah, yeah, you'll roll, you know, you'll get rolled a couple times because, you know, you'll deal with like other adults. But like with 100 people in the match, you're gonna run into that 99 grade school match. And because we're adults, you just steamroll them and then you get to dance on top of the kids.

But. Yeah, it's awesome. Great, but also, but also those kids are stomping on YouTube because like I said before, I've seen my little nieces and nephews absolutely wrecking shop online when they lock in, they adapt faster than we have that the new generation is terrifying, dude. Pretty scary. Yeah. When it comes to games. That's why I kind of have a hard time with PVP in particular. Especially a battle royale game. I kind of prefer to just take things at my own pace or play games with my friends, I guess, at this point.

Because people are so good at games. I've only just recently become, quote unquote, a gamer. But no matter what, I feel like people are just, people are so fucking good at getting sweat. Well they're sweaty man. They're sweating out here. Sweats all over the place. And you know, the only way I can cope

and huff the copium is by just going, okay well they're really good at that because they're not good at something else. Yeah. No, Wully, when they're young and they're good at something, they're good at everything. Oh. Oh man. Oh, oh man. So.

I'm dedicated. Okay, well, if I can, there's something that I think I might be good at that I played this week, and I think we've got. Oh, but wait, first of all, before we even, we never asked you how tired are you, Wooly? Oh. That's a good one.

Yeah, so I am like parent to be set up tired. There is a, you know, I'm still able to get like, for the most part, the regular sleep pattern, but there's a whole lot of stuff going on behind the scenes and unpacking of things and setting up items and figuring out how they work. Last week I was describing the process of installing a car seat in the back of a car is,

you're battling the car seat. Like, like Callie, like the amount of pressure you have to put onto the thing before you strap it in is like, I'm full on sweating. Like I've soaked my shirt through. And on top of that, it's like, it's just the safety of your baby's. That's what I'm saying, right?

I'm like, god damn it, this sucks. And then I'm like, but if I don't do it perfectly, you know? This is knowledge you're going to need for a grand total of maybe four years, Max. Ugh. That can't change. Well, as I've been learning the policies and everything,

you are supposed to use your car seat from zero to nine years old. What? That's not what happened with me. Let me tell you. Okay, it's not what happened with me either. No, neither I. Guess what?

Guess what? Well, you're a pretty tall guy. You are gonna, and your wife is a pretty tall lady Tall right. I am NOT those things and neither is page, right? So not only is there the age requirements, but there's also the height requirements and weight And we're looking at the car seat slash booster stuff and it's like my child cannot be in fourth grade on a booster seat Like he's he's short but like I will not do that to him. That is screwed up to do.

Here little man, we're gonna drop you off in your booster seat at grade four. Holy shit. Apparently, there's a weight that you can see in, like, if a kid's this big, then you don't need to use that. But the official thing says zero to nine. And I'm like, nine seems crazy, but it's it's there You know it's so yeah

Just look at us over here. Just a couple of dads. You know we're just dad cast And we're glad he's here now. It's three dead. There you were three We're triple dad cast a ask you this when we were in the pre-show when we're setting up But I was like no we have to save it. Where did the dad thing come from? Everybody asks that I feel like it's it's become one of those things We're like is a joke that most all of my community is cool with but I feel like there's definitely a subsec that is like They hate the dad thing and you know what I get it. It's fine. But the difference is that's a joke that I like. That's not the joke that I am 100% behind. Basically, what happened was, and it was like the

first year of my career or so, I was reading a manga called My Dad is the Queen of All VTubers. And it was about this kid whose dad was like living a double life as the most popular VTuber on the planet, using a voice changer and everything to be like, you know, cute anime woman on the internet. And he's like, number one, this is kid's dad. And so everybody in chat was calling me dad, cause you know, I'm a VTuber. But then as, as time went on,

people started being like, wait a minute, you like fishing? You like barbecuing? That'll do it. You're talking to us with like these, these really wise heart to hearts late at night with all these, I don't know, dadisms and dad words, dad-like advice.

People are like, you're dad. And now that I have so many new people that have joined my group as well that come and ask for advice and stuff like that, I basically watch over everyone and because I was I was the first one to debut and all of all of Hololive English as as Primarily English speaking VT but yeah that that was me. I'm I was the first one and I feel the responsibility of Alright, I got a look out for these guys. That's how I became dad.

Hell yeah. You know, as a follow up to what you were saying earlier about us giving you hope for the future, I remember there were two times in my career that this happened, and this was the second one, where I saw your debut, and I saw how slick and cool it was and how good you were right away. And I was staring at this and going, I am fucking cooked. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is the fucking, oh, immediately.

I'm looking at the future and I am cooked. Oh yeah, no, that arc, that hit him. And like my version of it was like flailing to make my own little 3d version of myself And I got a little model going and yeah All panic all panic over here. We were looking at the future and just going yeah or adapt or die old man This it's not I've been a meat man for too long Understandable flesh to flesh tubers is the turd It's fine, you know, I go through that in my own way

It's not quite the same but there are some trends and things that you know, quote unquote ways to stay relevant Etc that I'm just like well Then I'm cooked because I won't do that. I won't do it You know take top memes and dances, I can't get into it. Just a little too late for me. No, I imagine there will be a few generations of just getting hit with new shit you don't understand

and even your timeless model will find a way, lines and just dentures will show up out of nowhere and just oh Saving private Ryan gif You know the way that that actually happens is what will happen is I will be stiff compared to other VTubers That's already how Modeling is already so much more advanced. Okay, you know as somebody who is in a corporation You know there are some really wonderful benefits, but one of the one of the things is you know we somebody who is in a corporation, you know, there are some really wonderful benefits But one of the one of the things is you know, we all got to kind of stay on the same

Wavelength and there are a lot of us and so all of us kind of need to stay the same quality Whereas somebody who's independent can be like, all right Well, I'm gonna go ahead and get the best rigging possible because I am just me and there's not 60 other talents that need to be updated, you know, so right future is now I'm aging in my own way. I feel so old because you're talking about all the tick-tock trends I don't know and I was gonna make a Tide pod joke until I realized that shit is like that is that is But I do remember that yeah, that is wildly old at this point. Shit, fuck.

Yeah, now that you say it, that is pretty old. Okay, so in our struggle to remain relevant then, like a little bit of what we got up to this week. This week, I tried and I noticed that, Pat, we're gonna overlap on quite a few of these topics. Oh, I'm certain we are. We jumped the fuck in on Uma Musume Pretty Derby. Pfft.

And. How do you feel about Uma Musume, Callie? Horsewomen? I mean, I'm playing it after this podcast for the first time. I didn't want to admit I was going to do it. The thumbnail just says game on it. It's just a picture of my face. And I'm like, I'm going to play the game.

People in chat are like, the game? I'm like, I don't want to say it. I don't want to say that I'm playing Umamusume, but I'm playing Umamusume. It's fucking happening. It's happening. Oh, man. So, it's a surprise. Surprise, I'm playing Umamu Summon, but I'm playing Umamu Summon. It's fucking happening. It's happening. Oh man. So, defeat surprise.

Surprise, I'm playing Umamu Summon. So, it's a little out of the wheelhouse of what's usual over on my side of things, you know. Is it? I can imagine. So, is it? In the gacha sense initially, you know. But, yeah, upon closer inspection,

I don't know, you go through the onboarding process, you meet some horse girls, and then on my first fucking roll, I gain Emperor Symboli Rudolph, and then on my second one, I get the banner character, and I'm like, I guess I'm just fucking sick. I guess I'm kind of in then. You got three rainbow pulls.

I got three rainbow pulls immediately, and I was like, I don't know if someone's watching and hitting the streamer button or something, but that'll do well for getting someone into something, is just hitting the endorphins. That was your built up luck from not playing Gacha games. Right, I got Rudolph, I got Maruzenski, and then I got Mihono Burbin, the banner character,

all one after the other, and just watched the entire chat like take a humongous dump and lose their minds, and I'm like, yeah, let's fucking go. So you're in now is what you're saying. I mean, look, I took Rudolph, and that's a horse girl that is trying to be the emperor of all horse girls. And she's got the uniform,

and more importantly, she's got the ambition. And I'm a fan, there's a couple characters in anime that have ambition. I like a fan. There's a couple characters in anime that like have ambition. I like a character with ambition, you know There's you know, you got your your your legend of the galactic heroes It's one of my favorite animes and you know I anyone that can look up to the sky and kind of dream of conquest, you know in one way is like, okay I'm listening, but unless you're Griffith

Yeah, is Griffith relatable? That guy's a little different Hold on a minute, is Griffith relatable? I don't knowith relatable? Well, that guy's a little different. Hold on a minute, is Griffith relatable? I don't know, I'm not saying that he is or anything. I'm not saying that he had a point or that he was right at any time, but like, I don't know, trust me, I'm no Griffith apologist or anything,

but I think he's a very interesting character. There's some extra, he's multifaceted, he's complex. And yeah, so like, Rudolph is just talking about like, you know, do you have, do you put your faith in her to lead the horse girls? And I'm like, let's go. And if her speed is fast enough to win and win the hearts of everyone over, I'm on board.

I'm super down. How about the speed? Heck yeah. And then I would say too that like in addition to getting suckered in with the, you know, the insane luck off of the three pulls, there's also the really cool fact about it that actually changes the whole thing around

where it's like these horses are named after real race horses. They're real horses? That's crazy, I didn't know. That's crazy, yeah. Oh know! That's crazy, yeah! Oh, they go much further than that, Willy. Do you know how much they're based off of real horses? How so?

So I, one of the first pulls that I got with the starter pack, I got Haru Uraura, who is like a dumb fail horse. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, the dropkick girl. I've seen that one going on. And Chad starts explaining to me that this horse is the biggest loser that has ever existed in the Japanese sport of horse racing.

No wins. 113 losses, zero wins. Right. And so her entire storyline is not about getting wins. Her storyline is about getting enough fans to be allowed to race. Right. Maybe place.

Not the dropkick girl, right, the girl who's trying her best. Yes, yes, yes. That's incredible. Goldship is the, goldship is the one that kicks you in the face, I think. Yeah, I own that one. Goldship is the one based off of an actually insane horse. Yeah, I keep getting recommended videos of like the real gold chip in my recommendations. I'm like I didn't ask for this

By describing horse game For this behavior I Know I I saw the side-by-sides, you know, the real horse expressions and then, you know, the horse girl versions instead. And it's like, okay, this is going deeper than I thought. That's pretty sick, you know? Awesome. Yeah, and then I saw-

Japanese people love horse racing, you know? They're intense about it. They're serious business. Oh yeah. So I took a gander at somebody posting a clip of some famous horse race from decades ago, and then the side-by-side clip of the anime where they have had every single horse

in its proper position, every pass throughout the track at its correct time, the specific lane changes. Accuracy. Down to the camera angle of the TV broadcast. And I'm watching this, I'm like, okay, this is made by horse racing addicts. Like this is, these people are absolutely, sincerely, lovingly addicted to horse racing. You gotta respect the dedication.

Yeah, also, like I see like a horse, like vodka shows up Sincerely lovingly addicted to horse race. You gotta respect the dedication. Yeah Also, like I see like a horse like vodka shows up and like her name's vodka and she's got the cool hair swoop And I'm like, yeah, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that'll do cool, you know I want to see now like a Horse girl versions of like pie. Oh my from the Sopranos, you know Horse girl versions of like pyomai from the Sopranos, you know Or like I don't remember from like Seinfeld but like his father was a mutter his mother was a mutter You know like I want to see like other famous horses getting their other way into this world Well, there are tons of famous horses coming. However, they are all known if you're playing it in English Okay, the game is four years behind

Yes, so if you want to look up English. Because the game is four years behind. Yes. So if you want to look up what horsies are on their way, okay, here they come. I was talking to my chat, I want Bucephalus and Redmare as like two of the most famous horses to ever exist. They're race horses? I don't know them. Well, Bucephalus is Alexander the Great's horse.

Oh, okay. Redmare is Mubu's horse. Okay. Oh, so if we're getting into fiction okay well then we can get shadow facts going right yeah yeah yeah gandalf's horse shadow facts we can get a pona up in there oh yeah they're gonna run out they're gonna have to branch out from Fist of the North Star I said aren't they gonna run out of horses? To which I was informed that there are like thousands of horses every single year and the institutionalized horse racing

is going back decades. So no, they're never gonna run out of horsies. Okay. They're never gonna run out of horsies. But Callie, you know what you're in for? You've, no, I'm just something, you've scouted the like, the nature of this like addiction that is about to hit.

So, I mean, I was first introduced to all of it the like the nature of this like addiction that is about to hit? I mean I was first introduced to all of it when we were taking a road trip We were doing a vacation in Thailand and we were like just doing a road trip and the van was driving us through the countryside And everyone just stops talking at the same time because I'm taking a nap I noticed everyone stops talking and I look and Everyone else in the van has they're now downloading Umabu's right and once it's downloaded the the van just erupts in Horse girls check this out. Look who I pulled etc. Just exclaim. I'm like, I don't know what's going on here Maybe I should just put my headphones in and ignore but I kept I kept listening. And then I got struck by FOMO, and I was like, I can't not be a part of this.

You must be a part of the club. Woolly, you downloaded this because Foxcade made you. Yes, so I did a stream where Foxcade was a guest, and Foxcade was like, yeah, now we're doing it. And I'm like, all right, let's go. Friends and horsey too. That's what they do. Also, holy shit, concept in the ether.

Uma Musume cross steel ball run. There's some horses on the way that we're all about to fall in love with that JoJo fans might not know they're about to fall in love with yet. Come on. Come on. That goes hard. That goes hard. I had a completely different reaction.

I was, you know, I played the horsey game and I enjoyed it. I think the spell is broken because I was like, oh, there's only two days left to do the event. Oh, I gotta grind this out. And then I sat there and I was like, what am I doing? I should help my son color. Oh, yeah, right, yeah, yeah, okay, okay. But, but.

That'll freak you out. I was looking at this and I'm like, if they had this exact same game, identical, identical identical even cute anime girls all like the whole nine yards But it was about kfabe pro wrestling Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a no my wallet is gone. Yeah, that's crazy Especially if you hang out with them backstage and like do like training things especially if you hang out with them backstage and do training things. Yeah, up your social links.

Right. It's like, listen, listen, listen, listen. You did a risky match and your quad is torn. So you have a 50% chance of failing your next bicep curl, you know, whatever. Yeah. Like, are you gonna do it or are you gonna rest up? Josie Pro.

Rest up, you're not gonna get the money and you're gonna have to sleep in your car. Yeah, no, Joshi Pro style wrestling like roles and just having them come out on a giant ramp doing their big intros as you reveal, you know, which wrestler you got and what SSR they, yeah, this is, that's crazy. That's dangerously addictive. So the reason I hopped on is because everyone I knew like my whole my whole timeline just exploded with It was the same thing as with you Kelly. It's like I'm sitting around and then all of a sudden just

Single person I know even Wooly even Wooly's playing a catch a horse And and and lest we forget the prize for winning is you perform right that center stage Yes, there's just I'm obsessed with that there's two parts to every story Yeah It's all like it's all good sportsmen like you know there's no there's no There's no resentment but like this, but there's no resentment. But there's little parts of the routine where at what point, God, the name just slips me,

but she won when she's center stage, but then the other two come in front and they're more prominent initially. She's like, no, wait, hold on, I want front stage. And there's that little angle of it of, okay, you can be good at one side, but you can can race but then you have to get your confidence up to perform and that there's there's all it's multifaceted. So much. I relate to that as well being an idol and performing in that same way with you know me and my girls and stuff like that and the connection that we have and such so it got me really invested seeing all of that. I was like, hey, I actually really like this

and relate to this, so I'm excited to try it out. Well, you got one side of the skill down. Now, when are you gonna hit the race track? Yeah, we don't race. We're too busy streaming, we're too busy gaming. If it was gaming, that would be different, but I guess we could go up against each other. That game has PvP, yeah?

It does, PvP? But it's asynchronous. Just record based. I don't think it's like load up into a lobby and just go. I see, it's a little different. Okay, okay. Let me ask both of you a question. So the reason I hopped on was one, everyone went nuts.

And two, I'm scrolling past like 100 horse game posts and it's like fan art, fan art, fan art, stat screen, cute character moment, fan, and like what's the game? Yeah. What's the gameplay loop is what I want to know. What is the gameplay loop? And I'm asking people and they're like,

you tell the horse girls how to race better. I'm like, okay, but when do you play it? And I couldn't get there. I would not click. So I have to know, I have to know. And now that I've done it, I'm like, oh, you're micro gambling to increase your stats to macro gamble.

And in order to have a horse that you like to micro and macro gamble, you need to ultra gamble. And, and after your pulse. And in the meantime, you have conversations with them and you deepen your relationship, which increases their stats. And that's a visual novel, very charming.

Exactly. And then when they, you know, when they're ready to retire, they pass on the legacy, the will towards the future, you know? And the next one comes along. So you have the whole stable, literal stable by the way, you know? Yeah. I love that. Also, it helps too that it looks really, really good.

Oh yeah, absolutely. It polished. No, my friend Reggie who I stream with was like, nobody asked him to, but he's like, okay, so I installed it on my phone and it took like 10 gigs, so I had to clear a bunch of photos and videos and memories. I'm just like, well. These are my new memories.

These are your new memories now. This is your new family, yeah. So yeah, that was one thing that we got we got up to this week and like we'll see how it goes for you after this The other thing doing that Kelly I'm playing for the first time as soon as the podcast is over. That's the stream. I'm doing today. Oh Literally as soon as okay That's the stream I'm doing today. Oh, literally as soon as?

Okay, wow. Yeah, yeah, as soon as. Can't stop, won't stop. Whenever we're done shooting the shit. Can't stop, won't stop. I'm gaming. Honestly, I prefer to stream every day if I can, but you know, Anime Expo kind of didn't really have the chance to, so I'm like, all right, back to it.

Get back into it. So the other thing that I checked out in, I believe you did as well, was Yu-Gi-Oh! Master Duel? You could say I checked that out. Yeah. That's accurate. Callie, have you got any Yu-Gi-Oh! anything? I mean, so what I know about that game,

a lot of my friends were sponsored to play it. I was also going to play it, but schedule didn't work out. So kind of, I know it wasn't in the cards. Ha ha. Ha ha. Ha ha. Jesus Christ. Ha ha.

I know, disgusting. That'll happen a couple more times, sorry. But in my childhood, that's okay, that's fair. In my childhood though, I remember watching it on TV. I am a dad. This is dad jokes. I do remember watching Yu-Gi-Oh on TV, just vaguely like English dub. I remember the Abridged series on YouTube and I collected some of the cards as a kid

and I got some pretty cool cards that I bragged about for like a good solid couple months and then I was kind of out of it You know, I didn't have the as deep of a connection to you go as I think most people do but I still find it fascinating I love the memes. I love hearing about and even if I don't understand it seems kind of There's quite a bit of depth to the game that I'm kind of like, yeah That's I'm kind of dense. So that's kind of it as well. I had never really watched and I never played at all. Like literally it was a stream of discoveries as my friend kind of as Foxgate came over and just kind of was like, hey, we're going into shit you've never checked out.

And the memes for me were just like pot of greed and you know, people with I guess Long Island accents. That activated my trap card. Yeah, you know, and also like calling children third rate duelers with fourth rate decks. Also, you didn't win because I soccer I choose to like I will I'll fucking kill myself if you don't let me win or whatever that shit was about. I don't know. It's crazy. 99% of my Yu-Gi-Oh knowledge comes from Little Karibo's like Abridged series. Yeah, yeah. God, what a classic. I can't remember that.

But no, diving in basically and like, so yeah, FoxHaid was our Sherpa and sat me and Reggie down and we installed, we took a look, we got into it and I have to say initially as someone who, you know, has not played, I've only played a few card games. It was a little bit rough going at first, right? The basics of like putting a card down and attacking the enemy card or the person behind and stuff were like, okay, I get that much. But like there were a couple of card descriptions where I felt like I was reading a word salad.

And I was like, oh, when this thing summons, it took a sec, you know? But something that people had been calling out for a while and you know, it's predictably so. They're like, hey, Wooly, have you heard about Vanquish Souls? And I'm like, what's Vanquish Souls? And it's like, it's the part of Yu-Gi-Oh!

that's a deck based on fighting games. And I was like, okay, okay. And so the way the cards work is you show your main character that you're going to pick, and then every card has an element, right? So, you know, fire, earth, dark, etc. And then to do a move, to do an ability with that card that's on the board, you show one card that has fire, for example, one card that has shadow. And by showing those cards, you're doing an input for a special move, essentially.

So you're kind of going, if I have a card with fire, that's me having down. And then if I have this other card, it's me having down forward and then forward, and then I play the button, and it's like a fireball. And I was like, oh, that's cool, right? That's awesome, that sounds complicated. It does sound very complicated.

But it's like, basically it's like by holding the right things in your hand, you have access to moves with the character that you play on the board. That's so cool. And then there was that part of it, and then the second part of it was like, you can play a card on the stage, you can play a card down that acts as a stage, like almost like a fighting arena of sorts,

you know, where your characters are now gonna be like, on final destination or whatever environment type of thing, you know? And then you can swap characters in and out as if it were like a tag game So you can tag out one fighter into another and I was like, okay, that's really well thought out That's a fun system, you know, so I'm like really neat Mm-hmm. And if I'd like literally the the vanquish souls are like the acronym is VS, right? So it's like yeah, okay, you know,

you know how to appeal to people. I'm the target audience. Hi, it's me. Where do I spend my money? And it turns out, you know, I can kind of earn them, but you have to kind of play for a while and like make the cards because they don't just sell the pack anymore.

But I thought that was a really cool thing. That was like a part of the game that I find interesting. You know, that got me. Hey, let me ask you, Wolves. When you were playing, you're playing the PC client? Like on Steam? We were playing the PC client, and I was connecting with my phone

to the stream PC client. Okay, because I loaded up on my phone and bounced off it like about as fast as I've ever bounced off any game in my life. Oh, word. The cards are like, minuscule. They like, because Yu-Gi-Oh is an existing card game made for a regular human table in meat space,

it has to accommodate like a really wide like swath of cards on the table. And so I load it up and I'm putting my phone in landscape mode and I'm like, I cannot even discern the art on the card. So like not even the description Yeah, it's gonna come up on left when you click on it Like it is it is literally smaller than my thumbnail. So on the PC Version of it. It turns out you can install like a high res art mod to make all the card art really sharp

like a high res art mod to make all the card art really sharp. That would be helpful. That's really nice, yeah. And then you can click on it to get the initial card up and then click a second time to get like a broader description of the paragraph. So yeah, I would say like on the phone is probably not as ideal for not destroying your eyes compared to like the PC version.

But how many times do you wanna like kill time on your desktop versus just flipping out your phone? For me, like a card game on my phone is for the nine minutes it's going to take for my hot dog to get ready when I go order food. That sounds about right. Like that's the spot in my life. This this type of thing represents. Callie, do you have like a phone game that's just the,

I have a minute and a half, let's just jump in to kind of. Let me go ahead and check. Let's see, in terms of mobile games, I don't really take the train. I used to take the train and that's typically where most people, especially in Japan, play mobile games. I can't really play mobile games, especially in a taxi or in a car because they get car sicks.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But, let's see, I'm trying to get into Pokemon. Pokemon Masters X. I like it. Okay. I like it. Because I like the characters in Pokemon. I can't help myself. It's a gotcha for these characters that I grew up with and I don't know it's just it's doing it

Is doing it and I hate that I spent money on it I hate that I'm putting dollars into that but I can't help myself and you know what probably with this with this horse game Horse girl game it might end up the same way. That's pretty much the only game that I do that with though You don't have to put any money into that one for a while because they're they're released their release Event or whatever is just gonna give you like tons of currency for weeks free stuff Endorphins Okay, just get big. Yeah, I get the little get the little like tingles going on right? This is how they get you though. Oh, man like okay, so what is what tingles going on, right?

But this is how they get you though. Oh man, okay, so what does Pokemon do when you get a legendary thing? Like what graphics and colors are swirling to get that anticipation going? They've got some cool voice lines and maybe they have a cool costume. Okay.

I don't know, I don't really pay too much attention. I skip most of the graphics and stuff like that just to see what I got because like I was like oh no Callie you're one of those! I mean after a certain point you know after a point it's just feed feed the vein right at a certain point you're just you're hitting the button to just get the next fix Pat you know how this goes right that rainbow that rainbow horse stall is gonna get those gears going eventually, but soon It's taking too long show me show me now show me the results immediately. I get it What is Pokemon Masters EX like what is the game on that one?

Basically, you're rolling Gacha for characters from the Pokemon series. It's not even Pokemon. You roll for characters that have Pokemon, I guess, and they have a sync pair, so they work together with their signature Pokemon. And it's 3v3. It's a 3v3 finding, I don't care about any of that. I care about the characters and the little episodes

they have together. And they talk to me. They're like, hey, Morury. How's your day going? Let's do some training. I'm like I'm like yeah I've liked for many years. You're so cool like they were describing Malibu space Malibu space Malibu space. Yeah, yeah I can't let Pat get away with him just saying what is the game on that one as he? affixes his gladat, his readers, to the bottom of his nose.

Well, cause I, I need to know. Tell me about that one. What's the game on that one? Are you winning? How does that one? I played like a month of League of Legends because I was sick of not understanding jungler memes. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. Yeah, right? Okay. Okay, right? Okay. Okay, wait, when we started, I saw people saying that you love Timo, is that true? Shut up, shut up! No, because Timo's the best! They're lying!

They're lying, they're lying, okay. You should love him, Timo's great. Exposure, here, live? Is this happening? Sound like my friend. She will not stop talking about, yeah, you're our coach. You're our coach, Callie, you're our coach, and you love Teemo, and when she plays League

with the other girls, she has a PNG of me that she puts up behind her. She's like, yeah, our coach is here. I'm not there, I don't play League, I don't ever play League. That's great! That's a great bit! That's really strong!

There's a wooly doll that's coming in the mail that I'm going to use for this purpose. I literally got the prototype downstairs today, by the way. Oh, what? You got a doll? Awesome! Like a plushie? Yeah, god damn it. Alright, hold on. Yeah, go get it. I wanna see, I wanna see. I'm so curious. So hey, you don't have to answer this if you don't want to, but one of the things for me

is like I've played Genshin, I've played Honkai Star Rail, I've played Zenless Zone Zero, I've played a bunch of the other ones, right? And I always hit this moment where I'm starting to get into it, and then I go, wait a second, I'm susceptible to becoming addicted to gambling. Shit. Visual bit for the audio podcast.

Check this little dude out. What the heck? I love that. And he's got his arcade stick. And like the arcade stick, you put it in his lap and then it's got so cute Willie there it is so coming soon I'm going to I that's gonna come in the mail and I'm gonna give that to caboose hell yeah oh he's gonna chew the shit out of me damn let's go he doesn't chew anything he sucks on things

oh so he'll like he'll walk around the house with the wooly in his in his busted ma without all his teeth I can't wait. I'm so down. Um Okay, so All this aside. There's one other thing I wanted to touch on to I saw Yeah, um, I checked out a really cool movie that just popped up on Netflix that I Didn't know about until a couple days ago. Have you heard of K-Pop Demon Hunters?

I knew you were going to bring that up. Everybody's talking about K-Pop Demon Hunters these days. It's sick. Yes. It's really cool. Have you seen it? I like it. Yes, I do.

I like it a lot. I like the music as well. I don't know if I'm the target audience personally, but I feel like everyone's the target audience for kpop I'm I mean, I'm so late. I'm such an edge lord. I can't help myself I I think it's I think it's really cute, but like it's almost that it's like it's it's so like Poppy that I'm like this is fun, and I want to watch this with my friends and enjoy the music But it's not like a movie. I want to watch seriously if that makes any sense, okay, okay? I'm a trope II but like you know what I want to watch it actively with your brain on

Exactly so I think it's sweet sweet movie. I didn't I didn't think I was the the target audience But I I thoroughly enjoyed it a big part of that is that the team that made spider-verse I thoroughly enjoyed it. A big part of that is that the team that made Spider-Verse was behind this. Oh, I can see that. And there- The finishes top tier. And I just want to, like, of all the things,

like, they're so good at facial expressions. And like, right? The way, like, the faces that the girls make are so fun throughout the whole thing. And doing that in, like, a really, like, it works super well in 3D. They have these right off the bat goofy just, when they're eating food and taking breaks and chilling.

Also, they don't take breaks, so hey, there's that part. I don't know if that's a little close to home. Relatable, totally relatable. There's a lot of things I relate to in that movie for sure. But it also has that, so not just Spider-Verse but Puss in Boots, The Last Wish, like awesome animation combat quality, yeah. So just unexpected, really sick movie on Netflix,

worth checking out for sure. And definitely check it out guys if you haven't. And yeah, and also like some of the little bits that they play into where there's like, you know, there's the K-pop girl band and then like the boy band kind of shows up. So funny. Yeah, I'm looking at those guys.

Those guys are twunk. Yeah, yeah, I know. Like it leans in as hard as possible. Like the camera knows what you're thinking and is right there with you the whole time. It's crazy. Like, their waists are ridiculous. It's insane.

But like, it's been interesting watching my lady friends like, react in different ways because I have some girlfriends who are like, oh my god, they're all so dreamy. And then I have one friend who's like, why is the main guy the only good looking one? And I'm like, oh my god, they're all so dreamy and then I have one friend who's like why is the main guy the only good looking one? I'm like, oh my god That's crazy

Everyone's got different reaction. Yeah, I mean if your type is the eye you can't see my eyes type, you know There's the mystery boy. I like that. Mm-hmm the wild one You know, they got all the profiles the rapper who doesn't talk right? I like that They got all the profiles. The rapper who doesn't talk. Right. I like that. He got the hot sauce, dude. Baby, it was funny.

Yeah. No, so just, yeah, big. So recommend on K-pop Demon Hunters. They recommend. It was a ton of fun. It's a good watch. Good watch. Yeah, that's pretty much everything

that I was going to jump into. That and the existential crisis you're having every single day. Well, you know, that's the, hey, we try to just keep that in the back of our minds. And then, you know, eventually someone is going to hand me a baby and then I'm going to stare and go like what is happening, but it'll work out. Right? Yeah, I can't wait. I can't wait because I told you about it.

And I've tons of people told you about it, including like, you know, older people that you've had your aunts, uncles, parents, right? It's like, wow, everything's different. And, oh crap, what do I do? And you can hear that all day. And then it's gonna happen, and it's gonna be so much more intense and terrifying that you could possibly be ready for.

I'm just like, ah, my responsibility. Yeah. That's awesome though. It's good though, it's good though. It's good. Good, good, good emotions. Yes, no, I can't wait for my soul to leave my body because you know, responsibilities,

we're here, we're doing it. For sure. Okay. I think before we kinda jump into some other stuff, let's take a quick word from our sponsors. Oh, our wonderful sponsors, whom I love. Okay. I'll leave it to you guys. Yeah, yeah, well.

Thank you. Go ahead. I'm just gonna be drinking water. That is definitely the best idea for this segment. Okey dokey. Yeah, no problem, thank you. Go ahead. That is. I'm leaving it to you. Yeahie dokie. Yeah, no problem. Go ahead. Thank you.

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Hello. Welcome back. Hello, hello. Hey, hey, hey. Okay. So my understanding is that we've got some, there's some overlap here. I hear you know a thing or two about JoJo. Oh gosh, me a JoJo fan?

Maybe. Most importantly, we've established that we're all gonna call it JoJo, and not JoJo's. I mean, like those cursed Europeans. I'll take anything at this point, considering it was so obscure a couple years ago. The fact that people know and love it now is all I need really. True enough. Definitely.

I'm a big fan. I'm going to be honest. Yeah. They like just this week I saw like one of the things we were always talking about was like, okay, steel ball run is confirmed. What are they going to do about the horses? Motorcycle about was like, okay, steel ball run is confirmed. What are they going to do about the horses? Motorcycle. And yeah, yeah, that was the bit. It's like, oh, what if they just get motorcycles

instead in 3D, you know? No way. But I saw like, like from the news this week, the director basically said, people have been asking us and they've been worried about the horses. Me and Kato-san have been planning this for years. Don't worry, the horses are fine. So they're fine. We won't tell you how they're fine, but they're fine. They're gonna, they're gonna animate them somehow.

I believe. I believe. Well, I'm putting my faith in them. Give me a single still image. Everything else is animated the same Just like a sliding jpeg on the screen is combat 7 again Once again, I say you got you got Giro's a Peli and just vodka right next to him This this slip past I gotta tell the story

before we get too far away. I was streaming Horse Game, and the baby had woken up from his nap, and Paige had left me up on the TV. So I'm standing there going, run fast, run faster, horsey, and I'm cheering my horse on, and the baby turns and sees this. Yeah!

And starts yelling run fast. What? Yeah! And then when I'm like, oh no, no, make him stop, oh God, and he sees me starting to lose my shit, he just starts yelling too bad over and over. Whoa. And it's like, oh my God, my child my my wonderful

Has been like he's in salted by the horse gambling anime. Oh, he's in It's too late father. I've seen everything yeah, no for it. No, but actually for real. Yeah, yeah too bad That's great Okay Callie who is Oh, that's great That's so cute though, okay Callie who is Best Jojo. Oh come on Joseph Joe star Is my favorite? Oh, you're welcome on this show every day Wow I wasn't sure if that would be an acceptable answer, but I love Joseph so much. I got into JoJo at a time in my life

where I was really, I was having a tough time getting into this industry and just settling into what I'm doing now and watching JoJo just made my day so much brighter and Joseph was a big part of that. Because you know, I mean, I like Jonathan. He's cool, I watched part one. He's a good guy, he's a good guy.

Yeah. Yeah. But when part two, not part, well part two, yes, part two, but season one, I guess, on Netflix, started popping off, when I was watching it, I was like, now we're getting somewhere. This is what I wanted to see with the show, and I just think he's such a silly guy, and we get so much of him too,

because we also get him in part three, for example, and like a tiny bit of part four. We get so much of him. Yay, he grows on you, you know? He's such a fun, fun guy. I love him. I think that is one of multiple correct answers. I think that's the correct answer.

I totally agree. It's absolutely the Joseph show. This household over here on the East Coast happens to be a Joske household. That's what I'm saying, right? For sure. I'm not gonna, Joske, you can't shake a stick at that. And Joseph neither.

That's his mutual respect. We're good over here, right? Now I wish that your guy was a better father to my guy, right? It would have been it would have been nice Eventually, yeah, he didn't know that he showed up God yeah, I mean look the look the whole concept of parenting in general, like don't let the Joestar's be your example. You know? For sure. They're complicated.

But no, I love me some Josuke, I love me some part four and some Punching the Spaghetti to return to its original ingredients. That's- You know. So like to me punching the spaghetti is like the absolute highlight of in this case personality because it's so stupid. But that is a Joseph Joestar moment.

Like that is how a Joseph Joestar would solve the problem. Yeah. So true. But like Joseph solves all of his problems that way. But the same way. Well, but there's also the other patented technique which is run away, Smokey. Run away. It's the most respectable technique.

I mean, I still use it playing games all the time. I do it all the time in my real life. In real life too, it works anywhere. Oh God, yeah, full 180. But no, like like go sorry go ahead Sorry is your favorite part part four part four was my favorite part for a long time until steel ball run happened and Yeah, and I'm like for any for I'm not gonna go too far in from reading it

because we're obviously gonna get the anime soon and I can't wait for everybody to experience that. We're dipping back into these things being spoilers again. Right, but the journey into part seven for me was so, it was incredible because part six is, it's a really wild whirlwind kind of send off to these characters and everything in a way. And I kind of feel like I came out of Stone Ocean

bittersweet, you know? Me too. And you're like, and that feeling lingers with you. And so all I'm gonna say is I feel like part seven understands that feeling and uses it. It knows how you're feeling about everything up to this point. And I feel like it makes the best usage of it

by like celebrating everything JoJo in some really, really cool ways, you know? I can't. I gotta finish it. Yeah, I can't elaborate much more than that. That's it, I'm just gonna keep it there, you know? Halfway, halfway through, but I'm excited. That's exciting to hear.

I'm loving it so far. Who do you got on your villain pick? My favorite villain? Let me think. Who do I like the most? Is there anybody that's actually like really stuck out to me? I feel like Dio, everybody says Dio.

He's goated, he's instant goated, right? Who's your favorite superhero? Superman, okay. But it's like, do you want David Bowie in Labyrinth? Or do you want David Bowie in a music video wearing a suit? Like, which version do you want? Like, we got all kinds. That's a good, I mean, that's also a good point.

You know, thinking about it though, actually, I think, actually the true answer, I think I've said this to chat in the past before, but my true favorite is actually Yoshikage Kira. Yeah, yeah. He's just a normal guy, but he's also a terrible guy But he's so terrible he sucks he sucks I So I like the thing that I love with Kira too is like I felt like the bar that Deo sets is so high

You know you're like, how are you gonna to follow that act? And they managed to do so by being the complete opposite. He's like, I'm not charismatic. I'm weird. I just want to be left alone. Don't look at me. And they managed to bring it through overstatement to the extreme versus understatement to the other extreme. Yeah. uh, uh, you know, so that's no, like absolutely. Kikira is super sick. Uh, I have, as for me, a big part of what I, what I love villain wise, I love Poochie from part six, uh, because I feel like while we're all like loving Dio, we're like, Oh, Poochie's a fan boy just like we are. Number one Dio fan. Yeah.

Oh, Poochie's a fanboy just like we are. Yeah, she's a number one Dio fan. Yeah. Am I totally insane that like, I don't know how the timeline of events works, but like, I'm like legitimately completely unable to take Poochie seriously because his name is Poochie. And all I see is the dog from The Simpsons. Yeah, I have to go back to my home planet now. Yeah, no, but for real.

Made in heaven. Flo planet now. Yeah, no, but for real. Made in heaven. Float away. Yeah. But then, you know, and just the infinite beams of just like, Poochie, why do you want to reset the world? And just like him looking into the distance and insert whatever reason you need to overlay behind his face. It's fine, you know, And I also like that you get White Snake as a reference in there and Stairway to Heaven

and all this stuff. Poochie's just a cool design overall. I think that's my pick. Who's your favorite villain, Pat? Oh, it's Kira. It's Kira, right? Yeah. Let's go. So Kira, it's easily Kira because after

going through Dio a couple of times, and like the Pillar Man are just like variations on a theme with Dio. Oh yeah, there are those guys. It's three parts in a row and like five total villains and all of them are like, you're a lower form of life, I'm the greatest, I'm the best, I'm the handsomest, I'm the best built. How dare you interfere with my plans, et cetera, et cetera. It's all this grandeur, right? And you get to Kira and it's this emotional place of guy, the DMV, who's like, why is everyone mad that I cut in line? like that's the level of importance slash annoyance he's giving to murder like a gigantic city spanning battle over serial killing yeah yeah yeah everyone getting on my case right right just get

over it I was just really love killer Queen as well as a stand. And I remember that somebody actually commissioned me to draw Kira and Killer Queen like five years before I even watched part four. And then I watched it and I was like, what? I know this guy, I drew this guy, what the heck? So I have a strong connection to Kira. Hell yeah.

And the part four, like, okay, all those intros are fire, right? They're absolutely fucking crushing it. Like when Dio does the time stop at the end of the world and the nine second walk around, like, chills, right? But I remember specifically with part four, the whole, like, the first intro was a crazy, noisy, bizarre town where they're all like disco partying and they're pointing up, you

know, and then what a zany situation, right? And then it gets really dark where the second intro chase happens and things getting more frantic and like she gets you, their friend is gone and they're still kind of looking up but you know, like the cameras kind of higher up and I love and like Shigetsu, their friend is gone, and they're still kind of looking up, but you know, like the camera's kind of higher up, and I love, and like when it all comes back around in the intro, great days, and you see like what everyone was pointing up at were all the people that died

that are like up in heaven pointing back at them. Like my chest got tight. Like I was like, oh, JoJo's getting me. It's getting me emotional, you know? I fucking love that part so much. Manipulation, I love it. Oh man, but you know, every time that I watch part four, I can't help myself because of course I watched it

much later than everyone else. I can't help but draw so many parallels to freaking Persona 4. Well, I mean. I can't help it. Yeah. It really hit me. I was like, oh.

I think the team over at Atlas also drew those parallels. Ha ha ha ha. You think they did it on purpose? I mean. I mean, even with the villain of Persona 4. Yeah. Like. Quiet town.

And then one dude. And just trying to leave me alone. Mm hmm. Um, it's so I also did that. I did that. That was the same path. I beat Persona four and then later the anime came out. And like, if those were reversed, like if the anime had come out and then for I 4, I'd be like, oh my god, look at this cool fan game by this indie developer.

Oh my god, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not JoJo, wink, wink. Yeah. So P4, like honestly, so the culprit in that, that is, I think, of all the persona games that I played which is the You know three four five and metaphor Three which is the first persona game For like an hour

No, no, I'm just I'm no I'm just a couple of heads just exploded just now. We're I'm trolling. Um, but the oh like that there's a picture that has like P3, four and five, one each in a row, but the numbers are replaced with one, two and three. Yeah. And it's so just like, oh, oh that's toxic. That triggers me just hearing that, just hearing that makes my blood boil.

It's so toxic, the image is crazy. I don't know if you remember, did you do a Persona 3 sponsored video? Not P3, no. Okay, Kali, did you do one? Wait, no, yes, sorry, I reload, I did. I did a reload video, yeah, I did one. I did one for the port for P3P, and then I played Persona 3 reload just because I wanted

to. That one wasn't sponsored. For Reload, in the copy, it was like, make sure to say over and over, the beginning of the modern Persona franchise. It starts at 3. They were pushing, this is the first game. Oh man. Please no.

No, I think that in each game, I find has a really strong point that beats the others at what it's doing. And in my opinion, I think four, the villain is the best. I love, I mean, we always say culprit just to be safe. I mean, it's been a million years. Even though Atlas isn't as careful as we are. No, it's been a million years, but it's also like it's the main thing of the game, I

guess. So, you know, but, um, I just love how in a lot of games you have villains that have lots of high grand motivations and are up on an ivory tower spouting off whatever. And then you're like, what is this dude's reason for doing this shit? And he's like, because fuck it, that's why. Just absolute like, ugh, fucking- For the lulz, man. For the lulz and because woman, right? Ugh, like just, you're like, wow, what a piece of shit. And who cannot empathize with that?

God, ugh. That's the thing, is that kind of relatable, you're like,'re like at first you're like oh this guy could be like you and me But then you step back and you're like wait a minute He's not like you and me because he's a freaking psychopath Yeah You know but like there are so many aspects of him that are relatable that you question a little bit and they make you pick That name out on the full list right they really They really sit you down and go, take your time. Think about everything.

And I was so confident right up until they gave me a list. It's like being confident before going to your exam and seeing the multiple choice. I was like, I have a hundred percent, I know a hundred percent who it is. There's no doubt in my mind. And then they gave me the massive list. I'm like, okay, maybe there's a little doubt in my mind. Just a smidge. It could be any of these people. It's not a co. Yeah. The whole time. I mean- They'd throw you through a loop for sure.

And I mean, just like jumping into the persona from that. Like, yeah, I mean, it's okay. We don't need to start any wars here. We can put our weapons down, but. No, let's do it. Let's do it. No wars, no wars. Let's do it. Let's just talk about, you know,

who we hung out with and took to S-Link 10. You know, let's see, just, just. And we can do this peacefully. And, you know. Yeah. All good. Who's your S-Link 10 pick in, like let's stay with like four for example.

Oh, four? Shoot, who was it? Dang, I'm gonna be honest. My favorite characters are definitely probably not in four, but I'm gonna have to go ahead and say Naoto probably out of everyone. I like Naoto and I liked Risa the most. Okay, okay.

Yeah, yeah. No problem with the others or anything like that, but you know, they're super different characters, but I just, I liked both of them the most, maybe because of how different they were. I don't have a type. Clearly, I mean, no, Naoto rules, super sick, like big fave.

I'm just, I love Miya Chie, I love me some dragon kicks, you know, real simple. We got, but, Pat, yep, love me some dragon kicks, you know, real simple. But, uh, Pat. She loves meat. Yep, but Pat, you took your big long sip at the Risae mention over there, so. Oh, well, listen, I've lived my life with no regrets. And what that means is,

what that means is, is that the answers are bitchy redhead, flirty redhead, nerdy redhead. In every game. Then I marry that. Okay. Then I make a baby with that. Okay. I'm doing all right.

Okay, okay, yeah, you know what? I was a little less predictable going into each game. I kind of jumped all over the place a little bit, you know, but that is consistent. What if I what if I picked the girls that remind me of my wife I've never met yet, but then I meet her and I go, oh yeah, no, this yeah, okay, this manifest manifest. Yeah, no. Oh my God, that's so funny. No, I mean. Now I'm thinking about it. Like in three, I agree, I'm like, Mitsuru was always just goaded, but like I said,

my whole thing with Mitsuru has just been like, I'm like, I feel like Mitsuru and Akihiko are like, y'all go hang out. I'm not even gonna try. That is coward shit. That is loser talk. That was how I felt about it, you know? That is absolute loser talk.

I'm just saying, you know, they're the senpais and they're killing it. I enjoy, I endorse, you know? I just always feel like I tend to kind of gravitate towards what has the most canon scenes in the game, to like, I guess for my own satisfaction. So like, you know, for example, Persona 3, of course, gotta go with IGES.

IGES is my favorite. Okay, okay. That game pushes that. Yeah, yeah. Very directly. Head in the lap. I want to be, yeah, I mean, I want to get the satisfaction of seeing those scenes

and being validated by the game for quote unquote choosing the right one is just what it ends up being for me. But I also really love, I guess, cause I don't know, I think she's cute. I think she's cute. Yeah, I know, I think I ended up going as far from like the canon as possible. Like I ended up going with Yuko, the sports girl.

Like, you know, I think she's great, but she's like, she's not a party member. She's not like pushed it in, but I'm like Oh yeah, you go. I think she's great, but she's not a party member. She's not pushed it in, but I'm like, yeah, no, but she's cool. I like her. Yeah. That's kind of cool in its own way too to have the relationship be completely separate from the business and stuff like that. That's very realistic.

That's it. To be honest. That's it. That's it. You know keep that's realistic. Um Yeah, and I would say like I feel like in three I felt like the ultimate that finale and final and final boss were like I'd say that's the strongest of you know what that does at its best you know doorstop could as they affectionately say Door stop kun as they affectionately say

I've gotten the same spot in persona 3 twice once with the original and once with reload and I've just crashed out like at the exact same spot It's in it's in like December Where the games like you know what you should do and like what what should I do? You should do a hundred more fucking floors of Tartarus and I go Yeah Yeah you should do, and I'm like, what, what should I do? You should do 100 more fucking floors of Tartarus. And I go, ah! Ah, yeah, yeah. So close, so close. No. Here's the thing, I got spoiled on the ending before that.

No, what? Many, many years ago. I'll kill them. Okay, go, go, go to a game spot. It was Game Spot in their review of FES that spoiled the ending of the original game. Please go reap all of them. All right, it's on the docket. It's on the, jokes, jokes, by the way.

Everything we're saying here is completely fictional and for entertainment purposes only. Ian, silly, silly. Yeah, no, I. That's too bad. That sucks. I feel like when it comes to five, I just, I love the crew the most in that. Ah.

You know, they were. Squash. The whole heist and putting the plan together and everything I feel like was the funnest with them. And I feel like Makoto is just, look, that's just the objective truth, you know? We can. The game pushes Makoto. It does look, that's just the objective truth, you know? The game pushes Makoto.

It does, and I agree with the game. Objectively does push Makoto. I agree with the game. That's cool. I mean, it's interesting that you mention that because I feel like for every game, and this is the same with JoJo. I have a favorite entourage, a favorite main character,

a favorite overall part. You know, for example, JoJo's part five is my favorite, my favorite entourage. Oh, the boys. Those guys are stupid, man. The boys, Paciote, yeah, the Himbo crew. The Himbo crew. They are dumb as rye, slowly.

That's why I love them. That's why I love them so much, they're so entertaining. Oh, god. Oh, man, all love them. That's why I love them so much, they're so entertaining. Oh, god. Oh man, all those guys. No, that's the only JoJo crew that would have a face lick be part of the dynamic, you know?

They're unique in that regard. I was sold right away. Right away, sorry. We were talking talking about persona, but I had to know It's the same thing we're all over the place right right stands personas It's the same that's honestly we're marks for the same shit every time. You know like yeah No the Yeah, I was gonna say like the heist with the five. And did you, have you gone through more metaphor

by any chance yet? No, I haven't. I know, I know chat's gonna be like, we've been telling you more, you have to play it even if it's off stream. Really long, don't worry about it. Really long. I see that there's a character,

there's a character in there that I might like. There's a character that kind of, I don't think it's the same, but visually it reminds me a little bit of Griffith a little bit. Ah, oh boy is that a Griffith. Oh really, oh now I have to play it. I mean.

So here's the problem, Kelly. You've kind of screwed yourself over on the timeline, especially now coming home to this podcast, because you haven't played Metaphor, Here's the problem, Kelly. You've kind of screwed yourself over on the timeline, especially now coming out of this podcast, because you haven't played Metaphor, and Metaphor is completely peak. And that is a big old RPG that you should probably play because it is absolutely stellar. But the follow-up that I'm going to say is that you obviously haven't played Claire Obscura Expedition 33 either, which is similarly peak, but not quite as long. I mean, I actually have, I have played it.

We touched on that. Oh you have? To completion. Yeah, absolutely. So that's a humongous assumption you made there buddy. Swing and a miss. I should have done more research. Whoa.

She beat it before me. Oh don't I look like a fool. Absolute exposure. There you go. I haven't beaten the secret bosses yet or anything like that Yep taint on stream right in front of everybody that was crazy I thought you were being sarcastic for a second there. I thought you were that was pure sarcasm No, we we have been like properly like just non-stopzing Expedition 33 because of how great it is for weeks now.

Yeah, because it's not really very debatable in my opinion, whether it's good or not. Like, it's objectively really well made game. It's one of those things where like upon you know, you hit it, you beat it and and you're like, oh, I'm gonna be talking about this one for a long time. For sure. I'm glad that like, you know, they're actually, they're going back in and doing some of the tweaks with like, you know, they're patching in to like fix some bugs and fix like some difficulty stuff as well.

Cause we, Pat and I are, we're kind of sickos, we're kind of freaks. We do not play the game like normal people ought to. And we're basically parry or die. You know? Oh yeah, that's the way the game should be played. Absolutely. I think for the most part, yeah.

100%. And so you're fighting things that you're like, you have no business fighting this, but if you can stand here and not get hit, then I guess you can beat it. All I have to do is just use multiplicative damage bonuses infinitely, and then the boss will die. No problem.

So they did add stuff that I like. I'm like, okay, you can put some damage caps on and enjoy the game without melting everything in one touch, you know, yeah They said that they're gonna be patching it a little bit more to clean it up I'm hoping one of those patches has a loadout system, please God. Yeah Just stood out to me every single ten minutes I played and went to the menu my oh my god This picked-up menu is the worst. It's the worst.

Yeah, the favorite. And Shatz like, you can favorite things. I'm like, that doesn't help. It's not enough. I'm favoriting like half of the list. Exactly. And also the moment you switch from one character to another, the list changes because, you know,

some people have equipped stuff that repositions it. Like they really gotta make that streamlined for sure. They really do, for sure. Now, I guess on that note of, I don't know if you like your games hard or not, but I also hear, Wid, of you've jumped into some souls. Some souls, some. Yeah, I mean, this is kind of where the Mori became a gamer somewhere along the way started, I guess.

Because I was always into Bloodborne from the day it dropped. I tried it out back in the day, and I took a whole day trying to get through the first area and then after that it was smooth sailing. Just had to get over the hill. I became a fan after that. But I never really got deep into Dark Souls because I did try it out a little bit, but I thought to myself, this isn't for me. You need a shield, et cetera. I was very stuck in my ways of, you don't need a shield.

You don't actually need one. You actually don't need one. For me at that time I was like, oh, it seems like this is the way to play it and I don't wanna need one. You actually don't need one. For me at that time I was like, oh, it seems like this is the way to play it and I don't wanna play it that way so I put it down. But then I got Elden Ring, played and beat Elden Ring, really liked that and then Chad's like, you should try Dark Souls.

I was like, should I try Dark Souls? I don't really know if I like it or not and lo and behold, some of my favorite games I've ever played. And that was it. I've ever played. And that was it. I love Dark Souls. That was it.

It was my favorite. Listen, you're doing content creation with video games. You're going to go through Dark Souls. I'm going to play Dark Souls. It's a mandatory. And whatever order, at whatever point, you're going to have that experience of like, here, handle Ornstein and smoke. Here, deal with the Fume knight like whatever it's gonna happen. That was when it

clicked for me fighting those two guys I was like whoa these games are actually awesome I think I want to keep playing all of them. What type of build what type of character do you usually go for? So I want to be honest with you don't don't tell the strength bullies in my chat. I got bullied into strength only, strength only builds. So I just do, I just make guts every time, except it's like guts, lyope, so like pink hair, guts. Ultimate strength build every time,

and that's no shield, no magic, none of that, because they got to me, they got to, sorry, strength chads, bullies, did I say strength bullies? No, that's not what I meant to say. No, those guys are so cool. You can't go wrong with Maximum Unga. The, the, so the thing is, is FromSoft agrees with you and they want you to make guts in every game

I get that I get that vibe for sure They give you a gut sword and they give you a big old Artorias flip slash and like they're like no no no we understand we too are fans of berserk Look at this icon. That's not the the brand. Don't worry about it. So awesome. Awesome though. I love that. I love that so much. It's funny, Willie, that you mentioned that like from software is like, yeah, maybe you go straight. Because I recently went through Lies of P and at least Lies of P was not that. Lies of P was, it had this feeling of every dev played through the game with dex weapons and had just never picked up the strength ones. They were really

bad on release. They didn't do enough damage. They didn't, they did not knock enemies back far enough. They were too slow. And then patch patch one they got buffed then patch two they got buffed That's three they got buffed and patch four they got but and so on and so forth okay for like a month It and then I still went through the whole game with strength only which made the game get easier the further I went into it which was a very strange Situation with the game's difficulty curve. Okay. I haven't touched it yet.

Have you seen Lies of P, Callie? I played a bit of it and I liked it, but again, there was this feeling of like, I feel like I should be using some decks here. And like, there's also, you know, parrying in general is something that I Didn't have a lot of confidence in for myself until I played Expedition 33 nice now I'm confident in pairing now. I want to play Sekiro now

I want to play lies of peace so we'll see where it goes from going from going from Expedition to Sekiro is gonna be super weird because the parry in Sekiro is easier than the one in Expedition 33. Wait, really? Are you serious? Yeah, it's like twice as many frames. What? No way. Absolutely.

So one of our favorite little tidbits, I don't know if you heard about this one, but the director of Expedition 33, Guillaume Brosh, they found his, he had a YouTube page, right? And they found it and all that's on it are a handful of videos of S-rank runs of Devil May Cry fights against Virgil. That's it, and that's it.

That's all there is. Doesn't that just explain everything you need to know about how this game came to be? Yeah. I mean the music too. Some of the music, for example, the fight. I don't wanna spoil stuff. There's a big fight where some of the vocals are done

by people who did DMC music. Absolutely. That's awesome. I mean, on all. I don't know if he speaks French, but good on him for singing in French. That's crazy. Yeah. That's awesome. I mean, on all... I don't know if he speaks French, but good on him for singing in French. That's crazy. Yeah, let's go.

Incredible. Yeah. I wanna play DMC. I haven't played it yet, but it's on my list. I mean, I'll tell you what, with your newfound parrying skills, that's a fun place to go. We love those action games up over on this side of the fence.

And like in particular just the the mechanic that is encouraging you to you know, not get hit from Expedition 33 of course is something that the roots come from Devil May Cry, right being stylish and Not and comboing while being like as cool as the characters think they are in their head Results in the music playing more and louder and results in a style meter that ranks you for how cool you are For how cool you are? Yeah That's awesome. And that's that's the whole thing. It's like, okay There's games where you're like, you know, you're playing like a souls game and you're like, okay

Don't get hit because if you get hit, you die, right? But you're playing Devil May Cry and it's like, don't get hit not because you'll die, but because you'll stop styling. It's cringe to get hit, man. It's cringe to get hit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's a big part of what's stylish is parrying stuff

and then countering it like great timing and stuff. So like those games are like a ton of fun for, you know, if you get good at parrying, right? Bloodborne of course was also the like, put that shield down. You're going to learn today. You're going to learn to dodge especially dodging was. Oh man, I really liked the quick style of gameplay, like getting up in the boss's face,

getting up in the enemy's faces. I really liked that style of gameplay for sure. Get aggressive and you'll get your life back. Yeah. I love that. Super good. I love that they let you do some things like that in Elden Ring too, if you have like the right runes

and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah. Relive my favorite, favorite game. Well, so that's the thing is like Elden Ring too if you have the right runes and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah. Relive my favorite, favorite game. So that's the thing, Elden Ring ultimately is coming in at the end of all of these and going like, okay, which one did you like the most? Let's make sure we can give you aggressive styles if you want to. Or if you just want to sit back like Dark Souls 2 and just go and pop spells, you can do that, casting.

How do you guys feel about Dark Souls 2? Hey, hey. I think it was the most disappointing game From Software has ever put out and was still easily the game of that year. Yeah, that sounds about right. I like it, and that's mainly because it's the first one I played. So I got to experience those games in an ascending order. So I got to experience those games in an ascending order.

So I got to experience those games in an ascending order. So I got to experience those games in an ascending order. So I got to experience those games in an ascending order. So I got to experience those games in, like, an ascending order. My first time touching Souls was Dark Souls 2. And I'm like, yeah, I still fondly remember it because I'm like, yeah, and then I enjoyed everything afterwards more. You know? Yeah.

Well, Dark Souls 2 is the game where my whole fan base was pretty convinced I wasn't going to touch it just because of, I mean, it's Dark Souls 2. But one of my friends told me, she was like, Maury, look, Dark Souls 2 is a game worth playing once. That's all she said, it's worth playing once. I've played it like 11 times. Yeah, okay, no.

Really? Why do that to yourself? I mean I liked it. It was fun. Great boxers. I was so into Dark Souls 1 at the time that I had this mentality of like maybe if I beat it a different way it'll be as good. I mean you know the Scholar of the First Sin did come out and kind of like change things up a little bit and you know I so for me Regardless of the game. I have a very very like I feel a strong connection with a fume night You know like sir Alon that boss

Because that was one of the bosses where when we were streaming it, I mean god pat I don't know how many tries it was, right? But yeah, for me, it was like 120. It was crazy. It was crazy, but it was one of the first times where I was like, okay, we're not going home until this is done. It was because you or I were leaving for Japan the next morning.

Okay, okay. Something was, yeah. You were leaving for Japan the next morning. Okay, okay, something was, yeah. You were leaving for Japan in like 12 hours and I'm like, motherfucker, you must be this before you leave the country. And we just sat there and it was like a battle by inches, where you're like, okay, I can see the slight fuck up and oh, I got hit twice, it's over.

Again, yeah, again. But that's the first absolute nose to the grindstone, like, oh, this is what this series is about, you know, moment I had. So I feel strongly about that. And I'm like, he's into, so, you know, I have fond memories there. For sure.

I also feel kind of similarly, but in a bit of a different way, because I had beaten Elden Ring I beat Elden Ring's DLC. When I played the main game for Elden Ring I used like you know summons and whatnot I was doing decks and magic and whatnot but then when I went into the DLC I beat it without doing any of that and it was definitely so challenging so when I went back and played the older games I was like wow this is not as much of a challenge I'm actually standing a chance fighting these bosses when I got the fume night though. That was when I that was when I went wow I haven't been this frustrated fighting a boss since Elden Ring. That's crazy. That's a wall. Why?

He's a wall. Yeah, they felt good. I was happy about it But what what was kind of interesting is like, um, did you did you ever get to try a Demon's Souls? He's a wall. Yeah. It was crazy. But it felt good. I was happy about it. What was kind of interesting is like, did you ever get to try Demon's Souls the first, first, first? Yes. I beat the original one. Okay. Which is, I had to go through a lot of hoops to get that.

I had to buy original PS3, the original game. I had to get like a HDMI converter. It was a whole quest. Yeah. So you came around in this media space after the PS3 was kinda on its way out, right? Yes. God, doing PS3 stuff was a nightmare. It was bad.

It was always such a problem. No HDMI. Yeah. Uncaptured. No HDMI. Just a mess. We- It's like AVS.

Yeah, I mean, like I was extra paranoid because of the times we lost recording footage essentially. And early on back in ye olde fucking, you know, the days when we wore the onion on our belts, because it was a style at the time. Um, I was like finding ways to just we're not streaming. So there was no extra live backup of anything. So I was like, can I get a backup recording device going? Can I get a backup audio device going? Because when you play through a full day and then you lose the whole session

and there's like tons of hard ass boss fights and massive lost progress because you just moved forward because those games just like you get your one save It was the worst feeling ever. It sucks, you know But like I was gonna say that like going back to demons it's interesting because like the tricks that they Use they learn they kind of tested them out in that early game. So it ends up being not that hard You know up when you're going back to it going.

It's like demanding that you don't know it's silly little tricks. Right? Like there was a part in Elden Ring, you know when you go up the elevator to like the snow area and you can fall off the side for an entire sequence of invisible pathways. Right, right, right, right, right. And I did that, I'm like, oh, you guys are just using every trick you've ever used in any of these.

You're just gonna throw everything at the wall. But when you go back to Demon's Souls, like these are their first, like, okay, what if there's a guy hiding behind the corner? There's another guy in front of you. And you look this way, and then he's like, ah, got him! Hey, what's up? And I feel like the entirety of Elden Ring,

like the whole time I was streaming that, I was just clicking lock on whenever darkness was in front of me, and I don't know if I got got once, just by spoiling it with the camera tilt and lock on, and to the point where the Regi, who I was co-streaming with, who I was playing with, he's like, oh, come on, can you get caught by one? You know, and it's just where Reggie, who I was co-streaming, who's playing with, he's like, oh come on, can you get caught by one?

You know, and it's just like, no, because you learn to just lock on to the thing in the darkness. It's the only way. You lock on to the thing in the darkness, check every corner. If there's anywhere the game wants you to go, just assume that there's someone behind you

or above you on a platform ready to jump on you. Yeah. or above you on a platform ready to jump on you. Yeah. Yup. Up to Elden Ring DLC, I remember, there was parts of that where I'm rounding a corner and you're just like, stop, tilt the camera that way. All right, there it is.

And where's the second one? Oh, you're up top? Okay, cool. Back off, do one of them little like slow moving spells to make the encounter not ambush you. And it's just like, we're still doing the same tricks, all these years later. But then he's like, yeah, but fuck you,

here's a poison swamp. The poison swamp, I swear to God. For Demon's Souls, I always felt like the bosses were never what I struggled the most with. It was just the areas, the runbacks. Oh, the runbacks. Oh, bosses in Demon's Souls are really easy. Now, like compared to what we have now.

Yeah, that's what I meant, yeah. Like a bunch of them are like trivial. Like a Judicator is free. Yeah, I will say Fool's Idol, I died to a couple more times than I'd like to admit. Just, it's sure as, which one is it? Which one is it? I don't know which one it is.

I'm sorry, Dead Beats, we had to put up with that. It was bad. We all went through. We all had that flame lurker moment where you're like, wait, what do you mean he can cross me up and hit me behind? And you knowker moment where you're like, wait, what do you mean he can cross me up and hit me behind? And then you're like, oh wait, I can hit him hard enough that he actually stops moving for a second?

Huh. Yeah. Okay, just time to go all in. Just keep hitting him. No, and then, yeah, I just kinda, I feel like that first, well, literally, King Allant, right, that final boss, like what you learn from a big slash coming at you

from across the screen is gonna work wonders when you're fighting Sir Alon, you know, and like other archetype of like insane blade slash characters and people that like, you have to roll out and other archetype of insane blade slash characters and people that you have to roll out of their start-up animation and all that crazy shit timing-wise. It's all about the learning. I'm really interested in seeing what they could possibly do now.

I mean, they're doing Night Rain now and they're doing, what's it called? Dust Bloods. That's Dust Bloods, right? Yeah. But in terms of a regular single player game, I'm baffled because when you go through Sekiro and you beat the Sekiro final boss, and if you go through Shadow of the... Did you do Ertree as well, Kelly?

Oh, you mean Shadow of the... Yeah, Shadow of the... Yes, I did. Okay. You get to the end of that, and the feeling... I read it in an interview later, but I felt it myself. I'm like, this is definitely as far as you can push the difficulty with the bosses in this system. Like this, like in fact, they probably went too far on Erdry. Like that

thing is ridiculous. So you can't just keep upping the difficulty. Like there's nowhere for it to go. I felt like with Radon, especially the way, when I was fighting Radon, I felt very much like, alright, there's a way that this game wants you to beat the boss, and you have to do it this way, you have to roll a very specific way during these attacks, and there's no wiggle room for doing it any differently. And at that point I was kind of like, man, the difficulty, I don't know how much further they can push it beyond this. Without like completely restricting creative. Did you find a pre or post nerf?

Pre nerf. Okay, yeah. So I'm a little proud of that. Yeah, absolutely. Nice, nice, nice. Cause like, it was the visuals. It was like, I cannot see the boss. Yes, the lag.

It was crazy. And so like, but like what I was just describing about like literally King Allen's, is like the big slashes from across the screen Those lessons are coming back in red, you know concert red on with the with the ghosts coming at you years later, right? They're still doing it But then the timing of how they're coming at you is getting all mixed up in your leg come the fuck on like It's just it's the least ferrets ever been. I don't yeah, what kid what more can they do?

See Callie, I don't know if you know this about Woolly, but he's the smart one around here. He likes to wait until games get patched to nerf. Ah! Ah! Ah! I see. Yes, it's not because of the scheduling or timing

or anything, it's a tactical patch that I'm waiting on. It's a pretty, hey listen, there's a lot of good reasons to hold off, and all of those reasons are true,, there's a lot of good reasons to hold off and all of those reasons are true, but there's actually one reason. And then we all get the clout together baby, that's how we do it. Speaking of patches, I'm kind of curious, how do you guys feel about Armored Core? You guys like Armored Core? Oh, I love Armour Core. Yeah, so, I love me some robots, but like, I feel like my first time going through was with...

The recent one was with 7, right? 6? Excuse me, 6. Oh, I think round 6, yeah. But... You're playing Armour Core 7? No, I said the wrong number. Can I see it?

No, I said the wrong number. Put my hands on that. Slide that over here? That was sick as hell. And the parts where it's like, oh, FromSoft has tricks that can apply across the board is funny. Like when you're seeing the group of enemies

staring at the one item, you know? And you're just like, even in the future, even with robots, it's still a gang squad waiting for you. How greedy are you? It's still pinwheel skeletons. Basically. Pinwheel skeletons. I love, oh sorry, whoopsie, sorry, what were you saying?

But why'd you mention a patch specific to Armored Corps? Because I remember the big thing that was going around was who was the first main boss from Armored Corps 6? The helicopter? That was such a cool fight. Not the helicopter, it's the next one. Balteas, Balteas. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I remember that, yeah. There was a patch that went out for that and I remember just the discourse that was going on about it was immense. It's the same discourse every time. Hey, good for you for beating Balteas now that he has been patched. He was harder before. I beat him earlier when he was harder, but good for you though

Even though he is easier now It's always how it's gonna end up when they patch the boss I mean This is so difficult it was difficult I mean look if you if it gets easier and like you know anyone has an issue with that I encourage them to then just go hit that mod up that puts Balteus into Elden Ring. And you're using your Elden Ring character on Torrent

riding around as Balteus is shooting lasers and missiles at you, and it's a real fight. That's awesome. What? You know. That's awesome. I adored Armor Core VI, but I did kind of screw it up for myself because I did not pay super close attention during a very early game tutorial and got to like the final boss before figuring out exactly how the lock-on actually worked.

Oh yeah. I forgot. exactly how the lock on actually worked. Oh yeah. I forgot. I was turning the camera away from bosses to move, like literally the whole game. Yeah. And then someone in my chat was like, what are you stupid? Don't touch the stick.

Oh, oh shit. Yes, yes. After, like, because I had managed to get all the way there. and then after they told me that My my skill level like massively increased and then I went through the the subsequent new game plus runs But like nothing could touch me and I like ruined it for myself. I put the training weights on Yeah, when I took them off, oh, it's too easy. I'm doing it. Oh, I like changes the game I I remember the Balteus fight is where I learned about like don't touch the stick And when I took them off, oh, it's too easy. I'm doing it too hard. Changes the game.

I remember the Balteus fight is where I learned about, don't touch the stick. The smart lock-on will do it for you, you know? Yeah. The lock-on was tricky, for sure. I still struggle with the lock-on, honestly. I have to go back and get the true ending, though. I've only done one run.

Yeah. The true ending is something you would really enjoy. Yeah. It's really, really satisfying. Okay. Oh, now that you say that, you're right actually. Now that I'm thinking about it, I think you really love like that. There's a singular story thread that is like hanging off to the side and it just becomes the full focus

Okay, you're like is this really the full focus and like yes it is and it's really really Okay, okay, I like the final fight. I won't say anything else about it, but you'll final fight is great I mean so far the music I've heard off of the route that I did was like Phenomenal like from soft stuff, you know that I did was like phenomenal like from soft stuff, you know? Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. I'm noting that in mind and when I'm on my little parental break, maybe I'll fiddle around

with some robots and see what happens. You're going to come back from parental break being like, all right, here's the amount of games you can beat while holding and in one hand. Yeah. Yeah. No. holding and in one hand. Yeah, yeah. No. I love Armor Core 6. I feel like that's what got me to become a gamer

was getting that game and just falling in love with it and being like, wow, I can play games if I like them a lot. Do you get into the customization aspect too and like tweaking your little build and stuff, yeah? Yes, I like change the colors and like name them after my friends and stuff like that. I have some friends who are twins

and like I made my shotguns each one of their colors. So like. Oh, yeah. That's sick. I have these in my friends to shoot the bad guys. It's awesome, freaking love it. Oh shit, I forgot to talk about Mecha Break. Oh. Oh, that's, I've seen,

that's a big thing that people are playing. Yeah, I did a stream about Mecha Break. Oh. Oh, that's, I've seen, that's a big thing that people are playing. Yeah, I did a stream of that as well. Mecha Break is really fun, and it has that armored core speed and juice to it. It plays a little bit more like Zone of the Enders. Like, because of the dash on melee attacks, and you can just zip zap, zoop-a-doo-boo.

Mm-hmm. So basically, it's like if you wanted a armored core slash zone of the enders, but like multiplayer experience, it yeah, it does a really good job at that. And there's slow robots, there's fast ones, there's some that are like, you're turning into a jet and just like, just ace combating around the arena,

or you can just slow tank on the ground. It's a lot of fun. Did you, uh? Okay, this looks like my type of game. You should try it out. Woolie, did you play the Mash-Mack mode? I played all modes, and yeah. It's really interesting how big and how nuts that goes,

and it's a great single player feeling way to get stuff. It's not single, but you play as a group, PvPVE. I think it's- Yeah, Callie, have you played an extraction game before? Ah, have I played, I don't think I've played any extraction game ever in my life, actually. Because that's the new genre that's coming up that's supposed to save multiplayer or whatever.

But yeah, you throw eight robots onto a map that's like, I don't know, like 30 kilometers. Humongous. Enormous. Five minutes going from edge to center maybe. You're fighting, you're playing through a single player level of a mecha game, invading bases and fighting mini bosses and whatnot.

But there are seven other people on the map with you that can attack you and steal your shit at any given time. But there's only five extraction points. And extraction points can only be used once. Yeah. So you get, and you're a team of three, so you get a little bit of the hell divers vibe of like, okay, we're a squad, one of my friends blew up,

I gotta summon down a rally point for them to get back in the fight, or I can release everything I've picked up and send it back to base so I don't lose it if somebody else kills me. Yeah, and it's a really cool way to level up your character outside of the multiplayer stuff. I was super impressed with Mecha Break,

but I had a feeling that I could only relate to one other game I've ever played in my life, which was Rune Terra, the riot card game. Okay. Because it was like, wow, this game is really cool, and I had a really great time playing it. Let's go look at the store. Oh, I don't wanna buy any of this.

I don't care about even a single item they have on the free to play store at all. I'll be happy to play this for free forever. Oh no, are they gonna be cooked? Callie, I think I have a sell point. Let me try it out here. Okay. There is a Mecha in Mecha Break.

It's called Panther. Panther has a very big drill. And when you charge the button down, the drill charges. All right. And when you release it, you drill into your opponents and you basically gigad drill break them into the wall

All right, I'm sold and it's the sickest shit ever I'm in right. That's all you had to say drill is all you had to say a good drill break Yep. Yep. That's what I'm talking about Also, also like when you're coloring them like you literally go to the layout on the default of it and you make it's default black into red, and hey guess what, you're looking at your leg end. Like, it's right there. What the heck?

So like, there are a lot of incredible mechs in that, but like I grabbed Welkin, which is the biggest melee one with the big axe. Ah yeah, puts you in the box. I am obsessed, in the MOBAs I've played, Like I grabbed Welkin, which is the biggest melee one with the big axe. Ah, yeah. Puts you in the box. I'm obsessed in the MOBAs I've played in the multiplayer games and the action games, the ability to play a multiplayer game and hit a button that says you are trapped in the box with me is my favorite ability ever.

It is so satisfying because you can hear, you can hear in your chest, like in your heart, your opponent just swearing as soon as the box encloses them. Yeah, there's a button that basically goes, hey, we're playing a team shooter, now it's a fighting game. One on one, let's go. You're in a tiny box, and I have melee weapons,

and you are stuck. That is it. Let's go. And on that note, I would love to hear about, yeah, your journey into Guilty Gear a little bit. And, you know, what pulled you? It's a pretty pathetic story. It's a pathetic story.

Oh, let's go. I want all of it. I want all of it. It's bad, it's so bad. Let's go! God, no, there was one character that I saw that I liked and then I got pulled into the world of guilty You was how that's what he that's the pipeline was he perfect? No, it's so embarrassing is

I definitely I definitely had a type of character that I liked especially at that time in my life Don't judge me for the time of my life. This is some- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, right? Incoming pre-Cope. Yeah, I vaguely knew, I say vaguely knew, but I owned the games. BlazBlue, BlazBlue, I played some BlazBlue.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I liked it, I liked it, I thought it was fun, I think the characters are cool. I didn't gravitate towards any characters, didn't like grip me from like a young like, you know Fangirl perspective, you know kind of thing. Who's gonna be my oh she who's gonna be my favorite character Nobody really fully gripped me. I kind of like Jen because you know, I'm into the I like the cold personality Okay, asshole, you know archetype asshole. Yeah, it's just kind of what I was into. But beyond that, I was kind of like, eh, whatever.

And then with Guilty Gear, I discovered it in a time where I really liked the glasses character archetype. And- You're talking about fucking Bedman? I think we're talking about Bedman. Listen, listen, listen, I can defend myself. It could have been Angie Mito, but instead it's bed man. It's never Angie Mito.

I like bed man. I like his story. I like him. I like that he's a sleepy guy. He's asleep. He's a sleepy boy. But he's piloting a bed like a mecha. You put it up as the podcast title this week, I like bed man. Come on!

I can't be the only one! I can't be the only one! That character, in hindsight, why did I choose that one? Because he is such a technical character. Oh, he's a weirdo. Not beginner friendly at all. At all, no.

He's a super weirdo, but like, if... But I got pretty decent at playing him. But the. Yeah, he's a super weirdo, but like if, so. But I got pretty decent at playing him. But the thing is, is something we talk about a lot on this podcast is how much we love freak picks in fighting games, right? We love the weirdo. Freak picks.

Bedman is such a weirdo. Bedman. He's perfect for that. He's so weird. Weird for me. Yeah. I get that. I understand, I have no disillusions about it, but okay, but I'm a bedman fan There we go helped which suffice to say you can maybe see why I wasn't super

Super duper like as excited about trying out strive Okay, okay until recently until recently. it's not it's not super recent It was kind of a while ago But you know kind of now I have a reason to be a little interested again because he's got you know some continuing lore I guess question mark bed man. Yeah Man, I don't know. Yeah, I just like that guy a lot But because because I liked that guy I also got introduced to a ton of other characters that I love like Johnny for example Johnny's great. Yeah Yeah, yeah, love Johnny so much. So that's the thing is we get my toes into him. Yeah, I

Cuz yeah, that's what I was that's what I was gonna get again earlier because I'm like, okay Here's how I know you're gonna be fine because I saw you rock do playing some Johnny matches, right? And Pat, if I may, the exact quote is, stop blocking my fucking coin. Oh, man. Oh, yeah. No, you're right. Right? Right?

Don't worry. Yeah. And then that energy right into at the end of the match, all right, Gigi's bro, Gigi's. You know what I was like? Oh, yeah. Okay. No, Gigi's bro Gigi's, you know, and I was like, oh, yeah. Okay. No Gigi's dog Okay, we're good. We're good She's fine. She's fine. Mm-hmm Like that's me. That's me like in the distance just looking and going like and then I turn around and walk into the sunset

Like yeah, she's she's got this No problems Stop blocking by fucking coin Making sure that I don't have fun? Why? I'm so good with the coin, clearly. No, my deadbeats are so experienced, they know exactly what I'm trying to do.

Hell yeah. All the time. They read me like a fricking book immediately. I mean, the fun thing with Guilty Gear in general, it's such an easy, just show this to people who I get not even music character design wise all these things are just out there and Like there's something for everyone You know you what you will find a character that pulls you in and like I feel like The strength you feel as you as much as you feel pulled to one you will find characters that you're like get that away from me

May Totsugeki oh my god Yeah, I swear to God run my friend knows how to beat me every time because I can't get past the freaking dolphin Dolphin can't girl. Just walk right? Dolphin can't girl. Just walk right I And and while she's doing it to you she's screaming at the top of her lungs So you got to hear it and max volume? Yeah, yeah Yeah so that

There's an extra layer of that some characters get into in certain fighting games where they're just like, we're gonna also make the characters voice really, really great on you. You know? Oh yeah. I hate fighting Jam, man. Jam. Oh, Jam, yeah.

Athena in King of Fighters just keeps screaming, Psycho Ball, Psycho Shield, Psycho Sword. And you're just like, you're not gonna hear silence for any moment of this match. It's an extra weapon against you. Hell yeah, no shame, no shame in Bedman. That's a sick pick. I love that.

I mean, I will say though, like back in the day, I just, I had such a hard time, because I wanted to try being a little competitive, but I only ever played competitively once at like a convention. And I felt kind of proud of myself, because I'd been beating some of the other casual players that were around.

I was like, yeah, let's go. I beat them all. All right, all right, yeah. And then I get into the first match. And you know what? There was some level of bad luck here, but there was just this skinny bald guy playing axel-low and I'll never forget and he was real good because he perfect perfected me like twice and then

I remember I got one hit in and I swear to God he like he like nodded like nice yeah oh and then that was it oh too, but it was close, right? You got some good hits in there. But it was close. You got some good hits in there. She got one hit in, nice. All right, all right. It was like cool. And then that dude went on to the last round.

He was in the final round and you know what? It was him versus Bedman again, and the Bedman player won. Let's go. That means you were like third place. Basically. You know it. If you really think about it. yeah sick sure down to the math

So yeah, I never I never touched the competitive stuff after that. Okay Anecdote from my past. Well, you know, that's super sick. Well, you know, it's always waiting for you You know that game strives is there and bed man's in it and you know, you can You can you can chill with bed man and Delilah, his sister now as well. Yeah, and Delilah, yeah, exciting. What about you though, Willy? Who do you play as? Who's your main?

I mean, okay, just in terms of like, from going back to the older ones, like I have different faves over the years. Like one of the things that initially got me pulled in was Justice, the final boss of the first game, had such a sick robot design. I was like, oh, who is that? And Cliff was this old guy with a big old guts kind of dragon slayer sword.

But for years, I've been all about Bikan. Oh, I love Bikan. Right? Bikan big face. Just one arm, one eye eye and no fucks to give Yeah, so cool, I love the relationship with Delilah to yeah There could they have a relationship now exactly and while I was waiting for bike in When she wasn't in the game yet in Excerpt. I was playing sin

You know okay, okay, so like a sin in Exord, I was playing Sin. Oh, okay, okay. Sin, he's complicated with the hunger meter. Yeah! I hated that so much. He's a hungry boy, you gotta keep feeding him. I'm gonna have to look at all that. Trying to block Totsugeki,

I don't have to look at a hunger meter. And then I feel like when Strive came out, they revealed Nagori Yuki, our big black samurai vampire man, and I'm like, I'm like, okay, cool, we're in, we're done. We've locked it down. This was made for me.

This whole, this is my Amigara fault. This is made for me, I'm locked in. Pat, in the meantime. I play one character in every game. Yeah. They just take different forms. Yeah, I see I want the biggest grappliest guy you got in every single game You got Zangief you got Potemkin

Yeah, Hugo. What do you got? What do you got? Potemkin? All day every day in Street Fighter 5 I played Abigail He's not even really a grappler. He's just the biggest fucking guy on the roster Cool, if I want the biggest normal I like I want to imagine if it was just a giant arm was selectable in a fighting game You'd be like yeah that Give him a give him a 720 command grab and listen I'm not good at combos, but I can do a mind game and grab you and that's that's where I live Yeah, I need for the casuals. That's all you need also back in the day when we used to play every time He landed a grab on anybody. He would always Pat would always reach up off the controller and touch his nose

would always reach up off the controller and touch his nose. And it got to a point when we were playing and he'd like an opening would be there and I'd be like don't touch your nose and he'd be like. Yeah. Amazing. That's cheating. Hell yeah. Okay. Well, let's jump into a couple of letters. We got a few. Oh my God. I hope there's at least one good question this week.

Like I love the people who listen to this podcast. I just wish they wrote better letters. All right. Did you read some good letters? I mean, they're trying their best. They're not. You know that for a fact. I'm trying to be nice. If you've got a letter, you can send it in to castlesuperbeastmail.gmail.com That's castlesuperbeastmail.gmail.com. Hey, look, you know, if you just. No pressure on the first letter we're reading today.

No pressure whatsoever. Let's take one over here. Just high expectations, sky high. Sky should be high, one of my favorite songs in Guilty Gear, anyway. Oh yeah. Wait, which one is that from? That is from, that's from Exzard.

Yeah, yeah. How did I miss that? It's my favorite Exzard songs, Kai's theme, Magnolia. Oh, let's go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Good shit, no, no, no, no. Daisuke Shuitari. In there. I'll make a song with you someday.

Daisuke Shuitari, please. Oh man. Sorry, Tangent. No, no, I mean. Sorry, Tangent. No, no, I mean the music. Tangent. Like, Daisuke is just one of those dudes where you're just like, okay, art, design, style, and making every game kind of based,

like stages are based around metal album covers. Yeah. How fucking sick is that? Baby and Damon, let's go. Yeah, it's, all right, the the future who knows what the future holds but Also your main character is just Freddie Mercury, I mean like yeah, right straight up Iron, Okie says dear slash-and-bust

Thought of this question while finishing Ghost of Tsushima, some bosses aren't really a challenge and instead are a celebration of your kit. What bosses are there just to make you push all the cool buttons you gained along the way? I feel like the- The victory lap, you mean? Not the victory lap, but the boss who, I guess,

you don't just fight them in one way. It encourages you to use a bunch of stuff your character can do. Ah, the stuff that you- I feel like a pretty straightforward one is Virgil from Devil May Cry, because while you're fighting him, he's changing things on you, and when you shoot your gun, he kind of counters it with his sword.

You can taunt each other. It's a rival battle where the rival is kind of reacting to what you do a little bit, and it encourages you, I feel, to use everything you have to fight him up to that point and have a big stylish fight. Yeah. Probably gonna say Mr. Freeze from Arkham City. Batman, okay. He uses a boss that requires you

to use a different move in your arsenal. And then if you use, if you like sneak attack him through a wall or do a do a stealth take-down He becomes immune to it. Okay, and then you have to use a different part of your kit on the next one. Ah Okay, if you don't understand your your your whole kit you like run out of ways to actually attack him Okay, interesting. I almost I Almost have a well, I feel like in Pokemon games

you can build a counter rival team and whip them all out at the same time and then end with your starters. Yeah, but you can also just get Pikachu to level 100 and just sweep those fuckers. That's the thing about Pokemon is just get a Pokemon to level 100 and what does it matter? Just grind. True.

I still love it, I still love it. I still love it. I think the one time that, I mean I feel like this is a super basic, casual, normie answer, but coming from someone who was not a gamer, I did realize later on when I was playing Doom Eternal, some of the later bosses in that game,

I was like, wow, I have to use everything. Absolutely. Yes, I was actually. That's crazy. I was thinking of it, I didn't say it, but I was thinking of Doom Eternal, like at the end, it's forcing you to use your entire weapon system to get through that.

Mm-hmm. I struggled big time, was not used to that, but it was an interesting learning experience. So I can't take credit for this, even though I talked about it on the podcast years ago, but it's because someone in the chat just mentioned it, but it was a great mention. There's a character in Dishonored One called Daud, and Dishonored One is a stealth action game.

Okay. And the gimmick with Daud is that he has many of the same powers that you do. So the experience that I had is that I snuck up on him and used the time stop power, which stops time for you for ten Seconds just like do is the world? But Dow just turns to face you as soon as you turn it on Because he also has it Yeah, yeah

Oh this guy's cooked. I'm just gonna stop He just turns to face you and runs at you and attacks you okay like Yeah, holy fucking shit, dude Joe Taro in the stopped time is yeah, but you get to be Dio that's being shot Yeah, yeah, no that moment. That's super cool. Um Yeah, like I didn't I didn't spend a ton of time out with the Jojo fighting game But in all-star battle if you're Dio and you stop time and you're fighting against a Jotaro and he has enough meter, you can counter it

and unfreeze it and battle in the stopped time as a mechanic in the game, you know? Stuff like that's super cool. Lore accurate. Right on. Respect it. Okay. That was a good email, thank you person. Thank you. That's a good email. Thank you, person. Thank you.

That's a good one. All right. Let's take one over here. Hello, daddy, big daddy, and bigger daddy. John here. Hello, John. Hi, John. Years after your deaths, they create the ability to revive dead people.

However, the only information they have is all of your social media on Twitter, Twitter, TikTok, Facebook, etc. No YouTube or VODs will be used for this personality. Describe what the new you will be look like will be like. Oh, no. Don't do no VODs. No, terrible, don't do it. No VODs.

Just don't do it. It's gonna be an argumentative little shit. Just Twitter and short posting. Yeah. Oh no. Okay. You're a real stupid person, real idiot. I will be, my clone would be yelling about Punch Girls

and probably like old fighting game trailers yelling about Punch Girls and, you know, probably like, yeah, old fighting game trailers, and then every once in a while, I'll start screaming out a streaming schedule for no reason. It'd be weird. Yeah, just being an argumentative little shit. Mm-hmm.

Unlike the real me. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like I would definitely not, I mean, I barely reply to anything. If I do, it might be a piece of art. Wow, so nice, thank you.

Yeah. And then after that, it's like, it's me being like today's stream. And that's about it. Right, okay. So it's actually you it's me being like, today's stream, and that's about it. Right, okay. So it's actually you just grabbing other stuff around you and just retweeting, just throwing out other people's stuff and things, yeah.

Retweeting fan art, and then it's like, today's stream, we will be playing Uemusume, let's go. Like that's it. There you go. Live now. I don't like using social media, I don't like it. No. I use it for social media. I don't like it no But you have to Streams are social media. I

Mean okay, then I'm fine with that The one that makes the money Dirk bag money voice All right based ones I'd get rid of if possible Let's let's take one over here dear anime game streamer, also Wooly and Callie. Sick. Hey, Agra Will asks, what's your favorite piece of niche, just nerdy gear that you use regularly?

He gives an example of, he's like, I'm not a watch guy, but I tracked down the Seiko Kamen Rider Anniversary Watch and I've been rocking that regularly. And that's a pretty cool Kamen Rider watch actually. That's dope. And also gives a shout out to a pair of Aviat V1R Han Hollow Live earphones. Okay. Yay. Glad you're enjoying those. Cool.

What's your daily, I guess, like, yeah, nerdy merch or something that shows stuff off that you're a fan of? Someone at a convention handed me this replica of the Resident Evil 1 armor key, which I hold sometimes during my streams to not throw up from anxiety. That's cool.

Ooh. Wow. Willy, you've got the sword key somewhere. Somewhere. Somewhere. I regularly have my Ava Unit One shoes because I love me some purple and green. It's a thing.

What? I can't tell. They're nice colors that they compliment green. It's a thing. What? I can't tell. They're nice colors that they complement each other quite well. And yeah, there is I used to have a little tank and top of a Gurren Lagann drill necklace that I was I was I was rocking for a bit there. You know, that was my thing. Oh, me too. I still have that. Yeah.

I just don't wear it. Okay. Yeah. I just don't wear it. Okay, yeah, same. Anything particular that you like rocking? I'm so casual. I feel like all that I have that really even outs that I'm a person who maybe has some nerdy interests is that sometimes I'll just have a regular bag

and I'll be like, you know what? I'll put a little key chain on this, like little Pokemon like enamel pin or something like that and like that That's really basically it. I feel like in terms of like gear that I'm like rocking like outside I guess but I feel like I feel like I have a jacket or something like that It's got a subtle anime design on it that I always get compliments on. I'm trying to remember what it is I feel like I have something like that. Oh, that's so cool. Like, what was it?

I had a pair of shoes that were themed around initial D. Nice, okay. People really liked those. Like black and white. Like a Hachi Roku, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I really liked those shoes, it's about it. Part of the character design of, I guess what I used to do is I used to have a reboot pin

from the Ulch 3D show reboot on my hat back in the day. That was kind of a thing. Oh, cute. That's cool. And my early college years of like, before it got translated when it was fan scanslations only, I had a Naruto headband on my bag and And it was literally like oh like if you knew you knew but it was a pretty obscure thing at the time I remember When I went to visit you in Montreal you still had that thing I still wear. Yeah, there you go And I still believe it's obscure. Yeah God damn it. Naruto hurt me. Callie, it hurt

me. It hurt everyone. Everybody. I think everybody's been hurt a little bit by not. Little. Can't eat a bowl of ramen without just having flashbacks, you know. All right. and let's take one more over here. And hey, boy dad and soon to be girl dad. Hey. Natalie says, I've been watching a lot of speed runs on various video games recently and wanted to give it a try for myself. Well it turns out I'm not very well suited for it. There are certain games that have little tricks that don't require a ton of effort and they're

easy enough to perform in casual playthroughs. For an example, in Resident Evil 2 Remake, if you have Leon or Claire at Orange Caution Health, their default movement speed is faster. They run faster. That's cool. So my question is, are there any games you've played where you use speedrun tech just to simplify or speed up any aspect of the game during a casual playthrough? So I was like getting ready to answer this question with the example given.

In Resident Evil 2 Remake, there's a armless zombie in the very first room of the game That if it bites you it brings you down a half a health state So you let it bite you twice to get down to orange caution and then start your run and you stay faster than usual Yeah, it's just a little bit. How much faster? Just a little bit. Okay. Okay Interesting. I will say, also in RE2, a lot of the bosses are actually faster to just knife to death than they are to fight. Than to use weapons and ammo, yeah?

Yeah, it's actually legitimately faster to just knife them. Wow, okay. Because the knife has a fat hit box and can hit multiple times. So you just rack it up. So there's one that comes to mind for me. I love Mirror's Edge. And there's a particular glitch in that

where it's tricky to do, but once you learn how to do it, you could just do it for fun casually, but it's a big part of speed runs and it's called a wall run kick glitch and Essentially in Mirrors Edge when you run off the wall And do a kick there's a moment where in midair you're standing on an invisible platform for like one frame You know and so if you are really really sick You can use that moment to double jump

and make it further past obstacles you otherwise couldn't. Yeah, so like getting that set up and like learning how to do it, like even when you're just playing for fun, lets you do kind of just fun things and like, you know, get further and clear things in a really sick way. Yeah, Mirror's Edge for sure. Cool, kind of helpful. Nice.

I feel like for me, let's see. I don't really, there's like only a grand total of one game I've ever sped run in my life. And it's one that is so simple because it's just muscle memory, which is Jump King. That's my game. My game is Jump King.

I don't know it It's a it's a rage it's on sale Jump king oh Favorite game this is my game is this is this about jumping You jump is it about breaking your controller? Is this about jumping? You jump. Is it about breaking your controller? Yeah, you I mean you might I've gotten close for sure But the premise is there's a smoking hot babe at the top and you jump to the top of the map together That's it

But I like simple I like simple speedrunning games There's less about like the the tech of like the glitch of like jump here, etc And like I feel like it's a little over my head. I kinda like it where it's like, yeah, just jump perfectly, get good, get it in three minutes. I have to agree with you, my usual thing

for any game that I wanted to beat fast, it's like I don't wanna break it, I just wanna do it perfect. Yeah, exactly. But I feel like, the one thing, I guess the one thing that I do, that I did find, I found quote-unquote found it, but of course the Deadbeats knew about it already, was the Dark Souls 3 you jump up a tree and you get a really nice- Oh yeah, that fucking thing. Yeah, you get a nice little token early on, like the

silver, silver- Whatever, you get to the top of the fucking room. Yeah, you get to the top of the tree and then you get some good shit that like gives you more EXP, that's it. So Pat, this is the- It's not supposed to be there. This is the part of the podcast where I point out that we almost went an entire episode

without the youth exposing us as the boomers that don't know about a thing that everybody knows about. But Jump King is a known thing and we just didn't know what it was. And this is, this is, this has happened many times in the past. And we, again, we were almost out of here, but then at the buzzer, it's like, hold on, get exposed. And we're like, what, what is that? What is that a fun one to play? How does that one work? I believe was the... Well, it depends on the definition of fun.

Two things. One, this is the podcast in which our guests remarked, oh my god, it's crazy you guys are still alive. And two, you're a dad now. That's the ultimate scapegoat for... Oh. I get to use it was busy doing the most important thing right I was yeah, I dare you okay. I have easing a future citizen

I'm not used to using the child as a scapegoat yet, okay. That's perfect Yeah, you know you're out and about you're at at some function you don't want to be at. Oh, you know what? They're getting really tired. They're going to get grumpy soon. We got, they got to take a nap. We got, we got to get out of here. It's not because I'm layman uncool. It's because I got, it's the kid, you know? We forgot, we forgot their favorite sippy cup at home. We're just gonna have to turn around and leave. I'm so sorry. And then they get to be like, wow, what a good dad,

what a good parent, you know? Just, everything for them. Remember that forever. God damn it. All right, I gotta learn the tech. All right. I mean, Mori Calliope, thank you so much for joining us. This has been a great time.

My pleasure being here. Like I said glad I love you guys and stuff. I mean Seriously, so many so many wonderful wonderful playthroughs, especially like you know quite a dream. Oh God Those I spent so many hours watching oh boy. I drew stuff. Yeah, believe those were miserable watching this as I drew stuff. Yeah. Would you believe those were miserable? They were. They were.

Like they were a great time obviously, but they were also horrible. I mean, there's a like, there is a Quantic Dream office in the city I'm in, and I'm like, I'm not certain that our photo isn't on the wall if we were to walk in there. You'd all have to walk past there, bud. It's crazy.

You gotta find out. All right. Yeah. Oh man. So thank you so much for everything. Okay. Thank you so much. Here's a silly question. Where can people find you and what are you up to? You can find me on YouTube.

Just look up Mori Kaliope channel and there I am. I make music and I stream. That's about it from me. I'm just existing. I'm the Grim Reaper. I got lots of awesome dreams. I wanna perform on some big stages. If you guys wanna come watch my journey and see how far we can go together, you are welcome.

Everybody is welcome to come hang out, especially game streams. Those are my, that's my off time. That's my chill time. I know people say streaming is the, that's the number one job for like a for a holo girl But at the end of the day for me, that's like the that's the chill fun part Like the the music stuff is more the intense like work thing for me. It's still fun

But you know streams are where we chill everybody's welcome. It's very laid-back I have an amazing community and everybody is welcome to join in so check me out on YouTube If you want to follow me on Twitter, I don't know why you'd want to go there to that place But if you want to it's just at Maury Kaliope and that's it at M-O-R-I-C-A-L-L-I-O-P And uh and yeah, that's about that's about it for me right on Yeah, you hear that wolves not only is the new generation shocked that we're still around, but they're like yeah No, I'm working on real stuff. I'm just doing your thing Yeah, yeah, so so Pat. Here's the part where we plug ourselves on our own show

TV slash Pat stares at I, six, seven days a week. And in the near future, you're going to see Wully return to his show with new baby knowledge over at twitch.tv slash Wully Versus or youtube.com slash Wully Versus. Thank you very much. In the meantime, we will be here at Castle Super Beast while I'm on Dad Break. But yeah, that's where you can... That's such a fun term because Dadbreak, you're never going to have a Dadbreak ever again.

Maybe when they're 25. It's just at a certain point, the background screaming noises are allowed to be part of the streaming experience. That's all. You know. Yeah. We're getting ready for it. That's all, you know. We're getting ready for it. Everyone's ready for it. And also sometimes the baby will cry, ha ha. Thank you so much, Callie. Dead Beats, thank you.

Take it easy. What a good time. Have a good week, everybody. Take care, everybody. We'll catch you on the flip side. 🎵