Castle Super Beast - CSB329: Don't Tattoo Me I'll Cum
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["Sailor Moon Theme"] My favorite part about last week is how absolutely nothing happened.
That was so...
So I want to give you show credit,
like public show credit.
I think you tweaked the format super good for guests.
Thank you.
You did a really good job.
Thank you, thank you.
That is the guest format debut.
Yeah, do you wanna talk about stuff that happened this week?
The date says it happened last week week but it really happened this week?
I just threw the big stuff that was sitting there from two weeks ago in and it's just
a pile.
And there's more than enough to get into quite frankly.
Our cup runneth over so you know.
There's some topics that I think I'll have to put
till perhaps maybe next week,
because it's been pretty busy regardless.
For example, I have not seen Superman yet.
Have you seen Superman?
Okay, I'll talk about that when I go see it.
I don't even know when I'm gonna have time to go see it.
But you do have to see it, because it's Superman and that's content for you.
Yeah, but I can just wait for it to hit the fucking Netflix, man.
Yeah, but right now.
I haven't like screamed to go out into a theater for like since before Corona.
But everyone wants to see you come back on camera and be like, oh no, I liked it. I am literally looking at an edit of Dr. Manhattan on the moon going. It's October 22nd, 2013.
And I'm listening to Pat rant about Superman on the super best friend cast. It's March
29th, 2016, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Do the bit. And people are like, we need a bigger meme template because it just keeps like factoring
today.
I didn't see the movie.
It's not long enough.
Yeah, yeah.
I've heard good things.
I've heard good things.
I've ironically heard really good things.
I've heard great things and I want to go investigate those things.
And I also saw a line that was, it feels like something that would be used in other places, but you know in this context it was
The his superpowers are the least interesting thing about him, and I'm like yeah, okay. That's what I like to hear
I don't I've that I don't know if that's been used elsewhere and other superhero movies
But I'm definitely like most interesting thing about Superman is Lex Luthor. I
Mean a good Lex a good Lex can be incredibly compelling.
I'm having people crawl out of the walls to tell me, yo Pat, you're going to love this
Lex Luthor.
I'm like, no.
How petty can we get? How fucking petty? We need the most, the most pet.
I want a Lex Luthor that would create a restaurant called Superman's and staff it with bad chefs
Just to hurt his brand image
Yeah
I just think that like as the world itself gets more pathetic and pettier our
Fiction needs to move the needle that much further
You know you need you need to shock us with things that go beyond what is actually happening in real life. So I
need to get back to satire being outlandish satirical
perhaps if our satire can be satirical you maybe Yeah. Oh
boy. Well,
on to car. We had Yeah, I, I had a week, some stuff was going on. I'll
jump in and say that I have finally finished my little tattoo project.
I saw, it looks really good.
Thank you, thank you. I was, you know, obviously over the course of months,
people have been seeing my arm fill up with shit
and have been like, what's going on there?
And I'm like, I'll talk about it when it's done.
And now it's done.
And it took quite a while over the course of this year
to go find somebody that I trusted for the project
and to get all these ideas
in place and coordinate them in a way that made sense.
But yeah, I'm very happy with like what happened and the result there.
The finishing touches in particular, I had a, so big shout outs to Fabio, a tattooer.
Fabio is from France and I've been working with him for most of this
year on a lot of the designs and things. Some of the stuff that came in over the last month
was Caddo as well, was just a tattooer that was here for literally like three weeks. And I just kind of went like, OK, let's do what we can in that time.
And he did the shivers on one side
and the vagabond panels on the opposite side.
And yeah, an incredible job with that.
And then Fabio took care of just the circuit board,
the third strike, the Neo Geo circuit board,
the patterns of just the overall geometric stuff.
And then he did a Legend of the Galactic Heroes stuff as well.
That was just like, it's just a big excuse so that you're never too far from a panel or a picture.
So you can go, hey, hey, what?
I'm showing off my arm.
Oh, what's that?
What's that?
I'm reaching for that over there.
Well, let me tell you.
What's that?
Yeah. Yeah. You know, there's a? What's that on my body? Reaching for that over there. Well, let me tell you. Oh, what's that? Yeah, yeah.
You know, there's, I've wanted-
Oh, you see.
I've wanted tattoos for a long time.
It certainly helps when you're putting up your boxing guard
if you can have a little cool little thing going,
or whatever, but no, I do,
it's been a long time.
I've wanted to just have a fucking cool inked up vibe.
It's been, and I'm like, okay, cool, got that done.
And I was definitely like, I want to get that done before she gets here.
I kind of want to take care of that side quest for me before other major responsibilities
arrive.
So that was a part of it too.
And you know, there was a,
I think I kind of described this a little bit in the past,
but like after doing a big, massively meaningful thing
on my back, it's kind of like, okay,
and now we can let the bullshit gates open a little bit
and just put some fun stuff in there that, you know.
Let's just put some weeb shit all over here.
It's all meaningful to me,
and I can sit and talk somebody's ear off
if they were interested in what the things are about
and why I like them,
but the fact that they're based in fiction
automatically puts them a couple tiers down
from something based in reality that was the more important first piece I did, you know.
But yeah, that shit's cool. That's dope. Now to work on how to grab the shirt and yank it off in one fell swoop, you know?
Well, the trick to that is really you just have to not give a shit about the shirt at all.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
And you need to pre-cut it.
Yeah.
The problem is also, well, OK, pre-cutting the shirt
and pulling it off in one fell swoop can be practiced.
What cannot be practiced is the sense of shame
as you blob and as your gut makes a noise.
Oh, as everything just expands.
As your gut makes a noise and lands into place
as it settles.
You never see Kiryu having his gut settle.
I'm just thinking of you going to the beach
and doing the move and some 10-year-old
looks at your tits and goes yo that
Recoils, what the fuck is happening there? Yeah, you know that it's it's
Back sure thing. No problem. I am NOT getting thug life on my stomach
You know, I I do I did say I've said many times the secret is Rick Ross
He just got huge and tatted so hard all over his big body
that it doesn't even matter.
It's just an art piece, you know?
I can't see nothing but a walk in canvas.
Yeah, yeah, so, yeah, it's, and you know,
we've known, I've known, we've all known forever.
If you've been big for a long time, like I have,
you know that like the true secret
Is to not give a fuck right and you learn the hard way because you know at some point when you're
Younger and like you you're like, okay
How what are the how can I approach this pool in a way?
Where you don't want to be shirt kid in the pool, right? That's horrible. Don't do that
You know, but if you find be shirt kid in the pool right that's horrible. Don't do that You know that if you find out short kid in the yeah short kid
Sure kid, but it was for a different reason and the reason was this this fucking horrible anti-melanin skin, okay?
Okay, yeah, I might take 40 minutes to fucking
Yeah, lather my whole self up so falls off in 10 seconds. Yep understandable
For the most part shirt kid in the pool is like,
no, we all know what you're doing there.
And it's a rough look.
And if you do it, and then if you do it once,
you kind of realize how it's like,
oh no, that makes it look worse.
Don't do that, okay, fine.
So then you become Shirt Kid up until the last second
before I jump in the pool, right?
Like shirt is coming off as I'm in midair.
Right?
You finally-
Luckily the refraction in the water will distract.
I mean, listen, it's rough out here.
You know, the shave is brutal.
It's not good.
Learning to let go and not give a fuck is quite difficult.
And the person who's just ultimately like,
yeah, it's there, who cares?
Fuck it, that's my body is living life and enjoying it.
But it takes a while to get there.
You know?
I brought this up with Reggie before on other recordings,
but it's just like, I heard a bit with a comedian
that was like, you know the big guy,
untuck your shirt move, where you like,
pulling your shirt out move?
That thing, like when you're fat, you do that so often
that you could be crossing the street
and see a child about to get hit by a car
and you will pull on your shirt before you save the child.
It's like, it's crazy, you know?
So knowing how bad that is,
it takes work to get used to being like nah, fuck it, but it's brutal.
But now you've got cool tattoos all over. Yeah. Just put the camera behind me, not in
front and we'll be fine. Anyway, that project is done for the moment. I have other fun ideas
that I'd like to do in other places, but I'm gonna let that settle for a little bit
I
Have some fun
Potentially more painful spots I could target but we'll get there when when when the idea strikes
You learn a lot about about meditation and pain though, I'll tell you what you really do get to know yourself
Oh just disassociate. Just go to your trauma zone and unfocus your eyes and just leave
your body and then just come back later.
Yep, that works. I can confirm that works. Getting porked up, getting all hot and bothered, just putting yourself in some good old memories,
hitting the Rolodex, that can work too.
Whatever can distract you, I swear to God.
Even a...
What?
I am literally, there's that one point where my body,
there's that one point where my body's in so much pain that I'm like think of the best moments
You've had in your life, and I'm literally thinking of great memories of fun times that have happened
And I'm like trying to get anywhere away from my mind to not feel the pain and that actually helped
Does that make sense? You talking about fucking dating back to your goon memories
while getting a fucking tattoo?
I'm talking about thinking about good times
that have happened to literally try to get your brain
going elsewhere when you're feeling the pain at its worst.
Yes, thinking of sex, that's literally what I'm talking about.
Well, this is why is this what is I'm just this is a really awkward scenario
I'm dead serious like you're you're you're whatever you can and at that point
There's a point where that stops working too, right?
There's a point where like you're just kind of, especially when your body's at maximum tired, right?
I'm just being real.
And there-
You're just saying what everybody else is too scared to say.
I'm just saying I'm being honest, right?
You thinking of like disassociating whatever like your fucking memories are.
I had that, right?
I had that.
I had this.
And at one point, and then at certain points you kind of just do thinking of nothing, right? You do the just actual meditation, just breathing,
thinking about your breath. And when you think about your breath, you kind of notice that
inhaling actually makes it hurt more than exhaling for some reason, you know? There's
just little, little, little things like that that you get to kind of, and then you can
interface with pain in a way where you can go, it feels like you can go under it
or over it, it's a hard to describe thing.
But anyway, the point is that I even at one point
kind of relaxed myself into like falling asleep
while I was getting inked.
And it was like, that was nice.
Cause I was like, oh, this is great.
I mean, I have a really nice endorphin like spot going here.
And I kind of was like, okay,
I can almost like nod off and lean into it.
And I did.
And I was like, okay, awesome.
And then I had a little sleep twitch
and the artist was like, whoa.
And I was like, fuck, nothing happened is okay.
But I was like, shit. is okay, but I was like shit
You mean a hypnagogic jerk. I like you know you do you ever get like while you're sleeping falling asleep one
Yeah, no, maybe but just sometimes when I'm falling asleep or yeah, not in my mid-sleep, but like falling asleep
Are you a little huh that yeah, that's called a hypnagogic jerk, okay?
It's it's your your fucking your
Your your body misfiring,
your nervous system.
Probably because you're getting fucking stabbed.
And it like, the artist was like, yo,
and I was like, oh shit, okay, don't use that technique.
It's good, but if that happens, that's very bad.
So and then yeah, you know, I just,
all these different ways of dealing with it.
I would definitely say the tier list is just,
at the least effective is, yeah, just focusing on breath.
And then gooning is like third place.
I'd put second at trauma memory.
Yeah, just leave.
Trauma memory is very, very strong.
And if for any reason it's connected to what you're feeling,
great.
You're above the situation.
You're in a different location entirely. Yeah, and then first, of course is like if you can zone out to the point of passing out
But there's the risk of the jerk. You know I have a I have a fifth
Solution to this
Which is what would happen to me if I sat down to get a tattoo?
Where he would put the needle in and I'll go ow that hurts fuck this. I'm a pussy bye
Would put the needle in and I'll go ow that hurts fuck this I'm a pussy bye
There is that there is that that is that's true, too
What the fuck was I thinking?
The the what is nice though is that like the ouchy parts are mainly the you know thinner areas so the pit of your of your elbow and like the back part and stuff but like the the meat
the meat is fine you barely feel the meat when it's getting you know drawn on so anyway
that was that was some of it and yeah I I want to just give big credit and shout out to, again, that is Fabio at Fabiotattoos
on Instagram.
Huge, huge, awesome job done by him.
CaddoTattooer as well.
And Phil Dragash, the artist that helped me with a lot of the composition putting this
together. Phil also helped me with putting lot of the composition, putting this together.
Phil also helped me with putting together
the art of my sister for the back piece.
So I've just grown to trust him with putting together
a lot of stuff that's on my body at this point,
and he's been incredible for that.
So huge thanks to him as well.
Yeah, ever since doing thumbnails back in the day
for the old channel, I was just like, okay, your shit is sick. Let's go. Let's do it buddy
um
Beyond that, uh, I got to play a couple games
Uh last week as well before we had um
Kali on that I didn't get into because we didn't have as much time for it
But one of them was dead as disco
Dead as disco. I think I saw you play. Yep because we didn't have as much time for it. But one of them was Dead As Disco.
Dead As Disco. I think I saw you playing that very briefly.
Yep, yep.
This is a, this is Woolly Core.
It is a rhythm-based, amazingly stylish game.
And the direct comparison point is Arkham Combat.
Oh no.
On the music, on the beat, to the rhythm.
And I fucking loved it.
It is, a lot of the aesthetic is like kind of
pseudo-coded as well.
Some of the characters and some of the vibe
feels pseudo-51-ish.
It's super, super cool.
It's only a demo that's out for now.
So you can just do the tutorial, you can do like one. Oh wow, that's super, super cool. It's only a demo that's out for now. So you can just do the tutorial.
You can do like one.
Oh wow, that really is Arkham Combat.
Holy shit.
Mm-hmm.
And the preview for what the full game
is gonna look like is, I'm super on board.
But the most important feature in this demo
is the ability to load in your own music,
set the BPM, and fight to it.
That's a cool idea.
It's great. Definitely worth a quick, you know, peak, you know,
half an hour or so of content in the game in the demo right now.
But the proof of concept is extremely powerful between hard
soft moves, counters, dodges, light attacks, heavy attacks, couple special moves.
You know, you just, you get a flow that gets going
and dodging ranged attacks from a distance
and kind of moving the way in close to them.
So that's Sifu rhythm, you know?
But obviously like Sifu, you're just going for maximum
like style and efficiency, you know Arkham
You have the parts where?
Whoa, whoa, whoa, what what's going on? What nothing?
Well, what happened nothing I'm just laughing, okay
Yeah, it's it's super good and
I would say too as well that the fact that it's on the music and on the rhythm
where you're waiting for that to act on it and of course, the first time around with
Arkham not realizing that hitting the wrong buttons in between the prompts and the
whole, my whole, my whole arc, my whole Arkham struggle, you know, of, of not quite understanding
what the combat was there. Yeah. In this case, I think with the music and everything like
that, I'm like, okay, no, I, I 100% get this from the jump and it makes a ton of sense. the The the the end I loaded up
Six black heaven guns from the guilty-gear soundtrack and just kind of that vibe was was immaculate
What every game that I've ever played that it's like put your own music in right?
I always have this like fucking massive hole in my gut where you're like, okay
I'm gonna pick like a song I like but maybe it's not like I don't know the most common or has a simple BPN
I'm I always like worried that I'm gonna put it in is like oh cool the song that I picked
Plays like shit it it yeah playing audiosurf all that
Yeah, it might it might The game is dead as disco.
It might happen, but fortunately,
because you can load things on, you just
pick another song, I guess.
Get the right BPM going and see what fits.
Not everything will, but there's a couple of moments
in Six Black Heaven Guns where as you're
getting to the breakdown, dun, dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun,
and you're hitting and kicking and punching
on the beat with every part, it feels amazing, you know?
I'm super excited for the final product on this.
And yeah, I guess the only other thing I'd say is like,
when we played it, some of the music was so good
But it was covering real music like there's an amazing cover of uh, she's a maniac
You know and I was like, oh no, please don't let this get flagged
Please be streamer safe and I think it was in the end
But I don't know if everyone's gonna put in the amount of work that uh, hi-fi rush did
To make sure that the amazing soundtrack that you play, Stream Safe, is also as good, you know?
Supposedly, Tony Hawk 3 and 4 just came out with a full soundtrack for Streamer Mode.
Wow, okay, yes, yes, yes, yes.
That being said, even, like, one of the things that's really frustrating to me is it'll say,
Streamer Mode, and so look, we have a bunch of non copyright songs I'm like yeah but that didn't stop some fake Russian
persona company for claiming all of them anyway yeah yeah or whoever a different
youtuber who just got to the cutscene first I think my brain is ruined in the
sense that even if I'm playing offline for myself and I hear something really
really licensed I'm gonna have a panic reaction first
Like I've been playing Death Stranding and the the flags copyrighted music on Twitch so often Twitch no longer auto publishes my VODs
Like fucking stop it and I'm like no, I'm not gonna fucking stop it
I'm gonna put it up on YouTube where Sony is gonna eat the fucking profits off the ads that run on
it yeah like fucking just leave just leave me a version up on an upload
somewhere that isn't muted that's all I need at this point yeah I don't know if
the if the James Stephanie Sterling tech of putting so many conflicting flagged things into the
video that none of them can be claimed still works.
Well, no, it'll still claim them and Sterling was never able to get revenue. But the point
is that they're all fighting each other so that nobody gets the revenue.
I believe, right? But sometimes things go into the auto split even before they go into the like denial
I mean shit even for things that are currently sponsored or I'm like you sponsored me. What why are we fighting?
It's really funny
It's really funny because I've been uploading the death stranding parts like within like 10 minutes of the streams finishing like like immediately like
Here's here's the part. Here's the part is the part and like the other night
I finished it like two in the morning
And I saw a fucking skeet at me at like four in the morning going why aren't the vods up?
And I'm like are you fucking serious?
serious
motherfucker
Fucking go to bed
Holy shit, yeah, it's different
I'm I'm
Taking the the extra steps to like cut this up into episodes and and you know
Separate it so that are my voice is separate from the game means hey whatever
I can put clown fart music to replace whatever gets claimed if need be yeah, you know
clown fart music to replace whatever gets claimed, if need be.
Yeah.
You know?
Anyways, though, Dead As Disco was really, really cool.
I highly recommend everyone check that out.
Art is also immediately on fire.
Character designs are fantastic.
The other thing I played was, did I talk about Might Rea?
I feel like I did talk about Might Rea.
OK, OK, yeah.
That was really, that was good.
And then yeah, Mecha Break, of course.
We did the sponsored streams for that,
but I like how that game is, just yeah,
I like how it's shaping up and how it's turning out.
I like how there's a good original,
like yeah, just online Zoe vibe thing a good original like
yeah, just online Zoe vibe thing that you can jump into and I
I
Would like to see
Them cross the line and get in some like guest robots?
Absolutely not. I think it would be cool. I violently disagree with you.
I think it would be cool. But here why I'm saying it like this.
Because there is a point where you open up the floodgates and oh no.
It just gets taken over and it becomes the new Super Robot Wars style thing.
You know?
But I, Skins, yes.
Like, put Romboral's special goof on Welkin.
That's fine, that's fine.
Yeah, yeah, Skins is fine.
But not like Bespoke Robots.
I think that would be a fucking terrible idea.
Skins is totally fine.
I just kind of have that little thing.
It's just that like, oh, the things I love doing
cool shit is there. And I'm kind of like, yeah, you know, you can get enough customization going
on these robots to make them look like the things you want to look like anyway. You can get pretty
fucked. You can get very close with that panther, but it would just be fun to have some to hear,
you know, Camina yelling from the cockpit
while I'm unleashing Panther's drill.
I'm super torn on that because on the one hand, I think that yes, that is cool.
And on the other hand, I look at something like Dead by Daylight, which has become totally
dominated by guest characters.
Licensed skins, yeah. become like totally dominated by licensed characters. Yeah. I don't, and that's, this is why I'm, this is why I'm not so fully yelling about go do
it.
That's why I'm like, I can understand how it can go too far and just become about this,
you know, when it's like this month tune in for the specific Gundam series of things and
you know, they're limited and it's now, yeah, it's all about the guest content as opposed to the original content you know especially if it's a
new game and these robots are by some of the designers of these legendary series
right Xenoblade. I feel like you're halfway there already. Yeah no the the the the
designers here are like famous for these incredible famous these incredible
robot designs we love anyway.
So the originals are amazing and absolutely deserve that spotlight in their flowers as
well.
I don't want any of that taken away.
It's just, yeah, little fun cosmetic skins would definitely.
And you know what too?
Let's be real, it turns heads. You know if you do get your fucking your goof color or if you get your you know, if you even just the the
Whatever the whatever the the I don't know if you I guess you could talk to
Licensing to get like the the plane. I forgot the jet one but like Takara
Transformers licensing, you know, or something like you
can know you're thinking of Falcon and it's like that is Starscream.
That's what I'm saying is you can literally publish published Japanese Transformers content,
you know, and like you could you could reach out and get one one or two of those little
cosmetic skins going if you wanted to, you know.
Anyway, it could be fun.
I was really, really impressed, and I mean really impressed with the full release of Mecha Break,
where I put some time in all three modes and all three of them were fully unique, excellent modes.
Like Team Deathmatch and Objective were both really good. And that weird-ass Smash Mac mode is so much better and more interesting than I was expecting,
considering it's the extraction game type that is now going to be everywhere and suck
ass.
This is a really, really good extraction game type.
Yeah, it looks like from last year, they figured out the 6v6.
They got that balanced and going, and they kind of went, okay, they figured out the 6v6, they got that balanced and going
and they kind of went, okay, let's do the 3v3.
And then they just spent a bunch of time on this other thing and that kind of replaces
your single player in a way.
They also didn't, there's a little bit of that demo where you could walk around the
ship and I don't know how much that's going to be, but they did hint at a shooting gallery
where you could aim and just manually
Like, you know do pilot based activities
That makes me think if you're just watching your your little dude jump in the robot you want to talk about fucking cosmetics
You get every single pilot from every single series to just be the one to talk about cosmetics jump in the fucking robot
Single series to just be the one to talk about cosmetics jump in the fucking robot
Creating a lady character versus creating a man character in that game. Oh, oh you mean
You mean which plug suit girl you can set up as an Ava alternate
Character versus like the cosmetics on the dudes are so bad
They don't like if you put the hat on it overwrites your fucking hair and your facial hair into a default Why are you making a man idiot?
Obviously, this is for the jiggle
Talked about this and I was like maybe it's just me but like
I'm not I'm not like desperate to goon while I'm playing my robot game.
Yeah, well that's you.
I guess it is me. I wanna play with my robot toy.
I mean, it's just-
I don't wanna have to move my controller to get around my fucking throbbing erection when I'm trying to win in mashmacks from the dawn of time when the major Kusanagi was
straddling that tachy coma
ass up
There were robots and there was booty and people had feelings about those things
Okay, just so you know
Yeah, no it is it, it is not even funny
how much they clearly don't give a shit
if you're not making a girl character.
It's dancing on that line.
It's dancing on it.
Like the defaults are existing Evangelion characters,
which is the funniest.
Yeah, and you also, and then also you see
the special outfit you put on is essentially like, it's
a like, ZAFT, not a ZAFT uniform, it's like a Federation, Earth Federation, you know,
white uniform with the beret on the side and everything.
And you're kind of just like, yeah, they also know that you, the next thing you want to
look like is part of the space army.
You know, you want to be in your space military thing.
And I imagine more of those types of abilities and outfits.
All the plug suit colors and stuff are there.
Second is you get those.
And then third, you can get some of that kind of like,
I kind of like the Macross pilot look,
where you look kind of like Air Force.
You've got some of the straps and a bit more
of a retro style helmet. Yeah, I could see a lot of fun with the dress up on that but the
the priorities are have never been more clear. If you offered me a button that
just said delete all pilots I would just hit it I don't give a shit. I'm here for
robots man. Just throw a fucking AI bucket. The only reason they're pilots in that game is for secondary customization sales.
Mmhmm.
Mmhmm.
That's it.
Mmhmm.
And you know, I spent some time, I took a look, I was like, yeah, I'm gonna stare at
this person as they get into the robot, and every time they do a little taunt, you know,
they do a little, haha, I killed you, thing, you're like, yeah, it's part of the cosmetic,
so whatever, you know it's never gonna be like Titanfall again you know where like
the two things matter because you're they're a part of you and you're seeing
them all the time you know yeah also the custom the custom characters aren't as
interesting as bespoke characters if you could if you're picking like but I would
rather have a bespoke character for every robot
so I
Think that's cool, too. Yes, I actually if you make it and you can customize that yes
Yes, if you buy a hundred percent if you have a character designed for that is the pilot of the welkin
You know yeah, that would be really cool. I would love that too
And they do do that. It's just it costs $50. Oh
I didn't I didn't see that. There's like there's bespoke pilots with bespoke skins for the certain robots
There's one for Falcon and it's like 50 bucks. Okay, okay
Because I'm thinking of like tech romancer where it's like here comes wise duck
It's the big American military suit and there's three army dudes inside like yeah army you
know and then there's your your you know Koji Kabuto analog who's jumping
around in his like super robot as well with spiky hair and he's full of burning
hot vigor you know and I'm kind of yeah, I could see the fun of like having a set character
that you love that's a part of this too.
Not to mention, I don't, I mean, just the ability to like, it's crazy I'd imagine,
but aesthetics are thing moments where you could have the pilot like hop out and taunt,
you know, as part of the gameplay would be fucking sick besides the wind pose.
Anyways, fun stuff
with Mecha Break. And yeah, I played a card game that was pretty fun. And it was one of
those ones where there's a board game this like board game bars that we have and one
of them is Randolph's is pretty sick. You can go and sit down have some drinks. I've
talked about it from time to time. And I found that like, when I go there,
oftentimes I walk away going like,
oh shit, I think I want to Amazon.
I think I just want to buy that one.
And in this case, I got one.
It's called Red Flags.
Really fun.
No, not Yu-Gi-Oh!
I talked about Yu-Gi-Oh!
We got in there.
Vanquish Souls is cool.
But this time around, I'm talking about just a actual
card game as in just normal, you know,
whatever, sitting around having a beer antics. Red Flags is a really fun game. It's following the
Cards Against Humanity formula that is basically two funny things putting them together,
you know. It's funny because like Apples to App apples should really get the credit for that. That was the first game I ever saw that did it.
But they just weren't raunchy.
Or as the cards against humanity was.
Yeah, let me just confirm is anyone going to the door?
Okay.
Hold on.
Sorry.
Oh no doors.
Good.
Okey-dokey.
Nope.
Nope.
Doors answered.
Nevermind.
We're good.
And in this case, yeah, it's like. Okie dokie. No, no, door's answered. Never mind. We're good. And in this case... Yeah, it's like, look, I invented this game and
then someone else came along, it's like, what if I invented the same game, but instead said,
Oh no, I shit out a lot of cum.
I win. Yeah. Or you know, you just make rent. Just exactly. You just add
cards talking about taints and Rush Limbaugh's shitty soft body and all of a sudden billion
dollars, you know? That was the problem. And furthermore, games are coming out now that
are clean, but then they add the raunchy add-on DLC pack, you know, where you go get the extra cards that are, ooh, naughty.
It was a great idea.
And in this case, what you're basically doing is one person is trying to date the other
people around the table, and you have to picture your best
qualities so you have a bunch of cards that are green flags essentially, the good things
about you and you get handed a bunch of things that are, some are tame, you got your patience,
reliable, you can be courteous, and then there's stuff that's like, I got a card that says
I'm a famous writer or it says I'm blind to all your faults, you know?
There are cards that are said that say you can, I believe you're the most attractive
person in the world or I'm a pilot or I know all the words to your favorite theme songs.
And that's a really strong one to have on the green card side.
You're like, damn, that's cool. I'm a pilot is a red flag, dude.
If I.
And those guys are disgusting sluts.
That's a terrible flag.
If you're attracted to pilots, it could be a green flag for you.
Yeah, I mean, there's also green flags in the list that say, like,
I'm a CEO and I'm like, OK, fuck that.
That's it. That's it. So whatever whatever it's oh, there's a red flag. Yeah. Well, that's what I'm saying, right? Oh, you mean a sociopath, right? Yes
I gotcha. No you you eat you need orphans
Oh, yeah a mecha pilot. How about that, right?
Oh, they got damaged. They got mental brain damage. I
Like I think when we were playing...
Sorry, there's pilots in the chat.
They feel targeted.
Well, fuck.
Punchmobile we were playing got a card that was like a female professional wrestler.
And I was like, that's awesome, right?
But then while you're pitching, the people next to you,
their job is to then go, okay, hold on a minute though,
before you say you might date this person,
have you considered that while they are reliable,
and while they do believe you're the most attractive person
in the world, they also can only eat out of someone else's hand.
Right?
Oh, that's...
Oh, I hate it so much more than I thought I would when you said it.
Oh.
And you've got it now.
Oh, I hate it.
As the person who just got that red card slapped on top of them,
you've got to continue selling yourself.
And you've got to pitch why that's not so bad.
You know?
Um, sure, I'm a famous writer,
and I know all the words to your favorite theme songs.
Sure.
But what if I refuse to cover my face while I'm sneezing you would you
would you take that date so this is it's bad the people talk about yeah right Yeah, I got the ick off this, bro.
Right. Someone slaps that card down and you go, Fuck!
Right?
Um, and the red flags, they range, you know,
there's those ones, there's one that was like, a red flag is like,
live streams your first date.
Right?
Immediately.
Or, and then there's the ones that's just like,
is a literal serial killer?
And you're just like, yeah, right, it says CEO, I know,
got it.
You know?
But you have to then, and so it's your job to,
as the person who doesn't know
what red flag is gonna get slapped on you,
to be like, hey, hey, listen, all right.
Sometimes it feels good to sneeze out violently
in everyone's face out loud to not suppress it.
That's a good thing.
You should try it sometimes.
Let's go out.
I don't know.
God gave me that sneeze for a reason. Yeah't even I can't even devils advocate it
I don't even know how to pretend that's a remotely acceptable, but you find a way to pitch it. You know oh, yeah
No, you can pitch it. It's really easy
You just in vacant invent a fake story
Where you covered your sneeze, but it wasn't as effective and then so you got like
beat up and you have trauma over it.
Now unless you don't cover your nose you have a panic attack and shit yourself.
Okay okay.
Well no that's actually another card you know so yeah.
Gentle hands.
Yeah you're thinking of like every time you nut you shit your pants you know.
That's bad that's a bad one. That's not good.
That's a really, that's, ooh, that's quite poor.
That is,
you know?
That is lifestyle altering.
Yeah, yeah, you know?
You gotta, you got, there is logistics
that need to be figured out.
And, and.
You need to get a, you need to get a bag for that. You need to get a bag for that.
You need to get security in the form of more than just a bag, my friend.
No, no, I mean like a fucking intestinal bag.
Oh, well, I was... No, you see, I was just thinking a diaper that had...
No.
Yeah, no, a diaper with perhaps some...
No, it's yeah, no a diaper with perhaps some snow. It's not good. No, it's but I don't
Unless unless you're planning to nut directly into the diaper. It's not gonna work
No, but that's the boy you're gonna cut a hole in the front of the diaper
That's what that's the problem is that's why I'm saying like I fucking hate this podcast. No, no my god
This is like the worst one in a long. It's not it's not good. It's not good. It's not good
I think I think a diaper is bad. I think you'd have to figure out a way to
Facilitate the front
Hey hollow live listeners, how you doing welcome to Castle superbeast
I'm just saying that before listen a colostomy bag requires like massive like body alterations
And a diaper is a is sucks, but if you can figure out the front
And a diaper is a it sucks, but if you can figure out the front
Then you can you can improvise the rest you know and you also you got to be with someone that loves you that
Really loves you yeah, and is true love true love for Veil. You know they've got to be down with all of
the rest Yeah, no
or of the rest, you know? Or, or, you literally just don't pick that person
for that round and you pick someone else, you know?
You just go, and for that reason, sharks, I'm out.
You know, like it's done.
I believe that some of those red flags
are completely unwinnable, you know?
Yeah, it's kind of a search in the list of like,
okay, what red flag can I actually deal with yeah like genuinely yeah?
No, like there's there was nuclear flags that we kind of were just like if you were that we were holding on to
We're just like okay if I need you to not win this round because you're getting close in points
I need to just drop the card that says yeah, you've got all these good traits
But you are literally six years old and it's just like yeah you're out.
Scoop fold fold the cards you know I need you to not win and save you in this yeah it
was it was um.
And then you put that card down you look around the table and you just give me the eyeball Yeah, mm-hmm.
That's an instant disqualifier, right?
Eyes bugging.
No, listen, Red Flags was fun.
And yeah, I got a copy, because I was like, yeah, that's a fun time to just,
and it's also quick to understand, you know?
You just kind of open it,
throw everybody a bunch of cards,
and then throw a bad one,
and they go, oh no, and you get how to play right away.
So anyway, that's pretty much that.
So yeah, tune into Woolly Versus on Twitch for nothing.
That's crazy.
But tune into Woolly Versus on YouTube,
where Expedition 33 continues, as well as some
of the research sponsored streams
are going to be published as soon as we get the approval to do so.
And yeah, I'm going to be doing life in the meantime.
That's what's up.
Very, very important life stuff.
What's going on?
I'm going back over myself and like pretty much I played two things this week. One of which is I dove
a little bit deeper into Uma Musumei, the horse girl racing game. So Paige streamed
it and said Uma Musumei, like I don't know if she was joking or her accent came out,
but ever since she did I literally can't stop thinking
About um, I'm oh, Sam. I all right like some fucking appellate man fucking horse girl like me
Yeah, did did you graduate some horses?
No, man, so I was talking to so you get to find out who in your in your circle
Is horribly addicted to horse race gambling
And for me, it's like a lot of people I know
like a lot
And you also discover just how fast Foxcade will respond to a DM if you put your horse code in it. Yeah
Really fast Shane is fucking in there.
Really fast.
Oh shit. Yeah. Yeah. He's on the meta.
But as I've gone through it, it's a pretty enjoyable, charming roguelike.
And the variability in the actual horsey racing thing, even if you're just watching it, is
pretty exciting.
The other thing is that, man, they are doing a really, really bad job incentivizing me
to buy anything, which I really like.
Because you're getting a lot of good stuff.
Well, they're, they're, so, well, I don't know know, is Persona 5X's story on the docket this week?
No, I didn't catch anything.
Okay, so Persona 5X and Uma Musumei came out nearly day and date, right, in America, and
they're both on accelerated schedules because they're way behind the Chinese or
Japanese releases.
Yes.
Right.
Yes.
So the umemusume thing is they got to catch up like four years.
So like when you go to career mode, they're like, career mode will give you double rewards
for like 200 more days.
Okay.
And every single fucking day, the login bonuses have exploded and
There's overlapping fucking bad and basically they're just yeah, are you throwing shit out?
Are you getting that rune terra thing where you're like, oh, I don't even need to do anything
Yeah, I've actually saved all of my horse girl carrots because I rerolled like a psychopath until I got super Creek off the
one free voucher. Okay. But that's not important. Okay. But basically I've got like 14,000 carrots
just sitting there. So the basic deal is that they're like, if they're on an accelerated
schedule, they're also accelerating the free rewards. Right? Which makes sense, because if banners are coming out faster,
then you need more resources to get through them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Persona 5X was made by a Chinese company,
and then Atlas is handling the rollout in America and Japan,
and their solution to their solution to
running the gacha at an accelerated pace is that Sega and atlas have
Slashed the free rewards
by how fast they have
Increased the pace compared to the previous release
Yeah, so like that's the resources that people on the Chinese.
Oh, that just feels bad for no reason.
That's so like the Persona 3 collaboration is coming even earlier than it showed on
the schedule. And people on the subreddit are like, I'm a free to play player.
And under the game's normal schedule, I would have had like years to build
up to the P3 collab and now I think I'm going to have to spend money in order to get any
of the things that I want and it's causing the game to just get fucking shit on.
I'm just very bad.
There's a part of me that's going, I can't believe that we're comparing the rollout for FOMO based gacha
systems when they're like,
the whole, yeah, I hate the whole idea, but if you're gonna be like cool about it, at least not have,
at least don't make it so that the direct earlier version someone else has somewhere else is getting more and you can look and go what the fuck?
Why are we not why are you following me even harder on the Chinese on FOMO based gaming?
Yeah, and like the the fucking the Chinese dev had to come out and be like that's not us
That's atlas stop complaining to us, please which is dire. That's dire shit
publishers decision
Cuz I got just runs these games into the ground over and over and over and over with this shit
They just they're too stingy. The other thing that I've been learning about playing the umamu Samai
And talking to Fox Kaden mom who is very smart and very helpful
Is that there's like almost no FOMA in the horse game?
is that there's like almost no FOMO in the horse game. Because all limited banner characters just get dumped
into the pool when their banner is over.
Oh, and they get-
They don't go away, they just get dumped into the pool.
They're obtainable.
Same thing with the cards.
Do their percentages change?
Yeah, they get the base percentage.
Okay.
And then the other thing is that the events always roll back I'll also
Like the special week event that happened in the first three weeks. Okay, I'm gonna come back in like a couple months um
Does endless do that?
I okay, so nobody dumps their limited banner characters into the pool oh
I hmm. I thought that Zen-less had a way.
No, no, no, no.
Okay, well, shit.
Oh, Nikkei does it.
Nikkei does it, okay, okay.
Oh, you know why?
It's because of Cygames.
Ah, okay.
But the other thing, and this is the fun part, is that, so you know in fucking Hank Genshin
or whatever, you roll 90 times and you're
guaranteed at least a pity.
No, but sure.
Okay, you roll 90 times.
We've had this conversation before.
Yeah, I've seen that in other games.
Yes, I've seen it in Zandler's.
I've seen it in Tekken even.
Yeah, I know what you're talking about.
And the pity is a 50-50 between the banner character and any other character of that
thing. And if
you fail the banner character pity, then the next time you get a pity, it'll guaranteed
be the banner character. So this leads to people going like, well, I know so-and-so
is coming up in X amount of months. This means I need to build up 180 rolls to absolutely guarantee the character I want.
Which can be a lot.
That's like a year of currency.
That can be like a lot.
I'm flashing back to this conversation in Zen-less as well, actually.
And then in the Uma Musume, the pity is if you fucking roll 200 times, they just give you a voucher to pick whoever
you want.
But if you roll 199 times and don't, at the end of the banner they just turn all those
resources into shop items and just let you buy things from the shop and it doesn't roll
over.
So nothing will ever go away.
But.
But if you absolutely motherfucking must have this horsey.
Never back down.
Get ready to save up for 200.
Keep going, don't stop.
Which is 30K carats.
It'll pay off if you never stop.
Yeah, okay, I see.
I will say that for however deep you're going
Just always remember that you
You can take solace
Until we show up and then you're you're talking about how the anime seasons are going
Because that's the ultimate catch-up right like once you've done all there is to do
You can dive into that umemusume anime. Well, there's there's definitely way to so the that's the ultimate catch-up right like once you've done all there is to do you
can dive into that umemusume anime. Well there's there's definitely way too so
the I'm playing this game on the toilet that's where the horse racing game lives
it lives during my shits which I think is appropriate because horses there's
way too much to do in this fucking game there's way too much like the idea of
like oh when I've burned out all the fucking content, it's like, no.
I haven't even won the fucking, I haven't even beaten Haru's campaign.
And I shouldn't have picked her first, apparently, because she's apparently the hardest of the
base characters to win.
But I think it's a little more subtle than that.
I think it's more direct.
I think it's like, hey, I want to see a little bit more special week. Where can I
do that? Oh, here she is. Let's tune into the show and see
what's going on. Let's hang out with our girls.
Don, man, there's a lot of dialogue in those campaigns.
Okay.
There's a crazy amount of fucking dialogue.
We'll see.
No, the real question is I want to see where that
animated GIF is from, where Vodka is racing so hard that the entire character is just
a smear that's like 10 feet long. Oh, are they doing the the Sakuga Speedline like new
blorb melts? Absolutely. It was like because it's a race. It's it, cause it's a race, it's, it's fucking, um, it's a, what's it called? It's stock car racing, but with animals, right? It's a fucking oval. So when you animise
it, you gotta put your speed lines in your sparks and your smears and shit.
I would love to see, um, well, yeah, matriculated was it the, uh, the Aon flux, like, uh, matrix running style,
but just with the Uma Musume girls, just like muscles flexing, out running, out running
the art itself.
That being said, Wooly, if I want to watch that anime, it's not because I need more of
these characters is because like, I want to see how dramatic you could possibly make running
in a circle.
Oh, you can make that very dramatic, I'm sure.
I watched, dude, I watched Days of Thunder a million years ago, and I couldn't figure
out why I was supposed to be excited about any of the things that were happening.
He's rubbing on me, he's rubbing on me.
Yeah, fucking so what? Race your car.
Yeah. Okay. You got days of thunder, but then on the other side of the spectrum,
you've got red line and the speed racer movie.
Yeah, that's true. But those are not stock car races or horsey races.
They're they have tracks.
Yeah. I, I, I mean, it's, it's, it's the emotional push of
the, of the, what the characters, you know, able to think and do as they're running and
when they're deciding to unleash it all, even if it's a straight line or a curve or whatever
the case is. Were you a part of the Donovan Bailey versus Michael Johnson like mania with Canada versus the US years ago
in the Olympics.
Nah.
Okay.
Because that was a big thing in my house and in my neighborhood and you'd be surprised.
You'd be surprised how it's just like, yeah, we're just running in a straight line, but
that shit's exciting.
Or Usain Bolt with the flex and all that stuff.
Anyways, it was a time.
What was the second?
I remember Donovan Bailey, but I don't remember.
So Michael Johnson was the American record holder for the relay, and he was part of the
relay run.
And Donovan Bailey was the fastest man in the world at the time, and he beat the record for the 100.
And so the idea was that if you take Michael Johnson's
record for the full 400 meter relay and divide it by four,
technically his numbers are faster than Donovan's 100.
That's not how that works.
That's not how that works. But that's what they were saying at the time that's so stupid it was crazy
Right that is not
Now you're there now you're let me now congratulations. I brought you there immediately
We were losing our minds. This is like 20 years ago, and it was insane and America was like nah
But if you divide it in four though
If that's how the cope was not have him run the hundred meters and just saw and just so eventually
Because of all that shit and chirping. They're like fine
One v1 on the track let's go and they were like were like, what, how far are we going to run?
And they're like, oh, can we do it at a hundred?
Because that's what this has started over.
And they're like, no, no, because our guys used to the longer thing and it needs to now
be that.
And then they're like, but you started this whole thing talking about dividing by four.
So why not?
You know?
And so it went back and forth. And I think they eventually settled on 200. I think they just settled on
They settled on 150.
Oh, so 150. Okay. Yeah, they there you go. Right.
Which we really won after Johnson allegedly injured his hamstrings.
So you watch the there's a whole build up a whole big spectacle. Everyone's there. They
get on the starting line, the thing the gun fires and Donovan takes the fuck off and like
It's that start that has like the sparks on it. It's such an insanely, you know and
Immediate the lead is so immediate that Michael Johnson just goes. I'm a leg
I pulled up I pulled up, you know, and he's like you and they go and he goes down and he's like yeah
I know pulled up pulled a muscle. You know whatever and then dot of it
It's just like he grabs the mic afterwards and just calls him a coward or whatever. He's like you're a chicken
He didn't pull up. He said he track had had fucking lore
Diving oh, yeah, he don't know he don't he took he took a dive right away cuz he could he didn't get this the boost start
He took a dive immediately and then dot of it was like get the fuck out of here, bro
You know and then he knows that was it says I'm watching it right
It's so funny this pulled a hand string shit is not like yeah
He all my leg I pulled up instant he passed I pulled up. I pulled up guys. It was yeah
Fuck this is the most embarrassing cope I've ever holy
I've said fucking crazy. I'm so glad I brought you here all these years later. This was it. It was nuts
I also if you wanted to make it fair you'd run a hundred meter
You'd run a 200 meter then you'd run a 200 meter,
then you'd run 150 meter as a tiebreaker.
You know, after...
Bim bam, done.
And this is also leaving out the night before, Michael Johnson was on, he was on The Tonight
Show with Jay Leno and he was yapping.
He was talking all that shit.
You know, dude was going off and just like whatever and and and Jay Leno
I believe at the time introduced him as the fastest man in the world. You know and you're like if you divided by four
Well, I mean listen
So upsetting so stupid guys viewers listeners. I love you guys, but it's so tiring
So stupid guys viewers listeners. I love you guys, but it's so tiring
I'm the fastest man in the world. I'm the best fighter in the world. I'm the world heavyweight champion of the United States
Like
Yeah, yeah
Even down to sports entertainment is the world heavyweight wrestling champion of the WWE. Like really? It's like a roster of like 99% American.
Dude, I, you know, I love me. Um, a good old evil grand finals. And even then when they
put on the evil thing, world championships and I'm like, if you can make it to Las Vegas, you know, come on. It's,
it's the biggest event. The only way to make that fair, fair, fair would be to have like multiple
events and then feed the winners of those into a all expenses paid trip to the final location.
Top paid finals. Yes. And so that's what these like events like, you know, Tekken World Tour and Capcom Cup
end up being is like, okay, make your points internationally and then we send you to the
final location.
Because yeah, if you can't make it to Vegas, then you can't get to the World Finals.
That's not the World Finals, man.
Anyway, but yeah, that whole wave is talking about it, right?
Is always been just like, okay, the World Series, right? You know, it's it's the World
Series.
Dude, so I don't follow baseball, and I don't play baseball. I would fucking kill to see the World Series
just include Japanese.
Japanese players.
I would kill.
Right, right?
Yeah.
Because I'll tell you, I think Japan loves it more now.
I think they love it more now.
I don't think that's a question.
I think that's confirmed.
Yeah, no.
At this. And you know what? Of course, if we're going to do America versus Japan on this,
I would like all of Central America to make their own teams also.
I mean, the fact that they're sending scouts out to Japan to get your Japanese players
to come back this way. And then same thing for China and basketball as well
And you know what I mean? Like it's it's quite clear that no, no, no, there is a globe here
But yeah baseball in particular with Japan is like I would I would love to see that
Indeed Shohei Otani is who I was thinking of. So what uh...
What else?
No, I was going to say like what is your, who's your, what's the word for Oshi for your
umma?
Oh, it's Haru Urarara.
Okay, okay, she tries her best.
Urarara, whatever her fucking name is.
Fail horse.
Okay, okay.
You see- Fail horse that got so much specialty fancy grass
Because everyone's supporting her now.
The donation website went down.
That's amazing.
Everyone's giving her all the grass in her retirement.
And you know what?
That horse hates pickles, and I hate pickles too.
Okay, but I think it's a coin flip.
I could have seen you going either way on that.
I could have seen you also being like,
nah, losing means you shouldn't have tried
That fail horse deserves nothing for failing the whole time you know like nah man
She's a precious cinnamon bun the horse to the horse is adorable the bit the bit could have gone either way
But I do love the idea of the real horse just getting tons of grass not knowing why
in in the most
Unshocking twist of all my wife's oh she horse is gold ship ah
Which one was gold ship let me see oh the crazy one yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah the yeah the nut
Biting biting people's hats off and shit
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm
Unshocking drop kicker that umamu some is pretty good
I'm gonna I'm gonna use all my my carrots on trying to get Kitas on black and if I don't get it
I'm gonna go. Okay, I
mean, I Mean now that I've gotten Rudolph, I'm like,
Yeah, you gotta, yeah.
I mean, what's next, you know?
So here's the thing, when I re-rolled it,
and when I re-rolled my horsies
so I could get Super Creek the card.
Hey man.
No, sorry, I made a joke for,
It's real goo goo babies hours. I made a joke for absolutely no one. Anyways, go on. Oh, sorry. I just I made a joke for a real Google. Sorry. I made a joke for absolutely
no one anyways go go on. I hate that. Like did you make the joke for no one and you looked
at the chat and you're like oh shit it was for no you didn't even hear it. We're moving
on. It's fine. Oh I didn't actually roll any horsies. I only have the five starter horsies. Oh.
Okay.
Someone can get those cards first and then we'll see.
Okay.
It's really, really strange how disincentivized
rolling on a horse in that gacha game is.
It's fucking weird.
Why?
Because a horse, the change of any particular horse is what race they're good at and their
personality during their story mode.
Whereas the cards are the actual gameplay altering mechanics.
Oh, the support cards.
Yeah.
Yeah, okay.
And so since all the horses just feed into the gigantic pool of horsies and you don't know
if you like them before you get them, like you pull for the cards you want and then with
your leftover shit you go, ah, roll on a horse.
Okay okay.
I also want to see the part that Shane was talking about with like some people can be
good at racing but bad at performing.
I wanna know what that means.
I don't know what that means.
That's really interesting.
How's the Kojumbo Gumbo?
I have passed.
So it has an incredibly similar, okay, before we even start,
have you played Death Stranding 2 at all?
I didn't crack it and open yet, no.
Great, okay.
Just that helps me with where to go with this.
I have hit the turning point.
The game has the exact same exact same.
Sorry, pause.
We are talking about Death Stranding 2.
Yeah, Death Stranding 2.
We let in with...
Oh, we didn't say it! I said some stupid shit. I said it when I asked you to say it. Yeah, yeah,ing 2. We let in with- Oh, we didn't say it.
No, I said some stupid shit.
I said it when I asked you to say it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, all right.
Yes.
Talking about the package simulator, Death Stranding 2.
The game has the identical structure as the first game, like normal area, plains, rockier
mountain, rockier mountain, mountain mountain mountain Right as a progression so I'm on I'm out mountain zone now
And I have had a character literally look me in Sam's face and go you are 75% done
Oh, yeah, okay, waking up the network. Okay, okay, so I'm pretty I'm I'm I'm trucking right and
I'm I'm I'm trucking right and I've been thinking a lot about how I'm enjoying the game and how I feel about it and this is the least interesting game Kojima has ever made.
Least by far like not even close.
You're throwing. I would say it's not.
I would not say it's the worst game he's ever made,
because I actually really strongly dislike
Metal Gear Solid 4.
Okay. You're throwing in...
Metal Gear Solid 4 is super interesting!
You're throwing in Metal Gear originals and...
Oh, absolutely.
I just played those!
Yeah, that's why I'm saying that.
And Boktai?
I haven't played Boktai.
Okay. But Boktai's weird And Boktai? I haven't played Boktai. Okay.
But Boktai's weird.
Boktai's super weird.
The main thing that I'm dealing with is that...
It's a safe sequel?
Obviously, this is personal opinion.
Like, a huge amount of Death Stranding's gameplay loop
was carried by the level of confusion and... huge amount of Death Stranding's gameplay loop
was carried by the level of confusion and obtuseness
and strangeness of its setting, right? So I think about the Death Stranding trailer
where you see the five figures off in the sky.
And just that feeling of like, what the fuck is that?
And like learning about BTs and learning about void outs and repatriates and shit like that
It can't do that again. No because you already played Death Stranding. Yes
Nothing in Death Stranding 2 can even approach
Being as weird or interesting as even the same thing was in Death Stranding 1 the first Death Stranding 1 it was brand new
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay as a result a lot of the stuff in this game feels really safe
And on top of that some of the stuff feels so safe as to almost be parody
The Luca Baba to boopy sections where you fight the soldiers
Are literally just three or four more cliff levels.
Like they're exactly the same.
And the way that you get flashbacks to Luca's stuff
while you hook in the BB pod,
it's Luca instead of Cliff.
Like it's-
They're not twisting-
Sorry, Neil instead of Cliff.
They're not twisting it in any obvious ways yet.
Like it's exactly the same.
Okay, okay, okay.
It's exactly the same and it's kind of weird.
The other thing is that, so it's one of the,
this was a really interesting situation
where I was talking to a couple of people
and I was describing how I don't like how easy it is to drive everywhere. You can just drive,
you can skyrim your way up a mountain with a truck. Once you get the roads clear?
Once you, once you. No, no, just right away. Oh. And the truck is a lot, a lot easier to
maneuver as well. Like you can't, you can just drive through a bunch of rivers with them.
is a lot easier to maneuver as well. You can just drive through a bunch of rivers with them. I was doing back and forth with people and the consensus seems to be that trucks
and trikes and movement is just easier and more powerful. But part of that is because
I already played through Death Stranding 1 and so I know how to use ladders, I know how
to use the trucks, I know how to use the climbing ropes
I know how to you know all of these parts of the gameplay loop
I already know right and so what the game is supposed to put towards me is like new types of challenges that
Test that or different types, right? It's the same challenges with stronger tools
Okay, okay, okay. It's like even easier. I gotta climb a mountain, but all of my tools
are stronger and I have a bunch of new tools that are even stronger than the old ones.
And you've already gotten proficient at the old way. And I'm already good at Death Stranding
1. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And as a result, I end up falling into this really, really weird trap where you chart
out your route or you chart out, I'm going to go fight the mules or whatever.
And then you go, okay, what tools am I going to bring with me?
And I have tons of different tools.
I have a bunch of different climbing things.
I have a cargo launcher. I have tons of different tools. I have a bunch of different climbing things. I have a cargo launcher.
I have multiple vehicles.
I have a third specialty vehicle, which is super weird, which I won't talk about.
And on almost every single thing, I bring the generalized loadout of like the machine gun, two blood grenades, a stun bomb,
some blood packs, one climbing rope, one ladder,
and my fists.
And the most effective way to fight human enemies
in this game is to sprint at them and drop kick them.
It will knock out every human enemy in the game is to sprint at them and drop kick them. It will knock out every
human enemy in the game in a single hit. Let's go. And it's like, yeah, yeah. Before even
grabbing your other weapons. So like, yeah, we've been given like 10 times as many ways
to solve the same problems. But the first things you get to solve those problems are the best things to solve those problems.
Okay.
It's really, really weird.
So I kind of, I have a theory I want to posit
because I feel like when we go play,
when we play Guess with Kojima,
the expectation is typically
that we're gonna get baffling narratives, but the gameplay will be recognizable, right?
And in this case, could it be that like, almost in a way like, you can go baffling with the narrative,
and there's a lot of different ways you can try to confuse people, but the setting has already been established for how weird it is and what's going on.
If you are no longer using Konami's money, but your own studios,
that your sequel decisions need to be a certain way.
Safer.
Right?
You need to make money for Koji Pro to be able to do this for years. And that might in turn, you know, influence how nutty we're going to get.
I don't know per se, but I would expect like.
I would expect that, like, yeah, there's some some element of Kojima
wanting to keep you on your toes.
Even that interview the other day from Woodkid being about like,
yeah, he said it was too safe in the play tests, you know?
So I don't know what the hell that was talking about because one of the big things is environmental
effects, right? So now rivers can flood and brush fires can happen and avalanches and
rock slides can happen and there's also earthquakes, right? And you're supposed to be able to,
there's like a weather system to see
if these are likely to happen
and you get alerts for earthquakes.
They don't matter at all.
Oh yeah, okay, weather.
They don't matter at all.
I've encountered avalanches and rock slides,
which I moved to the left
and stood next to the wall and they missed me.
I did a brush fire that I just walked through
and you can drive through the flames apparently.
The sandstorm happens all the time and you just plot your course on your map
and just drive through the sandstorm.
And river flooding, all of the vehicles can just roll right through a flooded river.
And it's just like...
It's not enough of an obstacle.
And I'm getting tons of cool toys and I'm really, really enjoying building up the larger infrastructure.
But I'm enjoying that because I just like to see it all...
I'm building my fucking model train set.
If I had to say what the core of it is, is vehicles are too strong and you get them right
away.
You get them in the first 10% of the game.
And they remain excellent for the whole game.
I drove up the side of the mountain on a trike.
Okay.
Is perhaps, I was going to say, is the geography changing in a way this time around that it The side of the mountain on a trike Okay is
Perhaps I was gonna say like maybe is the geography changing in a way this time around that is like presenting new challenges
No
Okay
In fact the geography has changed in a way that has removed old challenges
If I if I could like put my thumb into the game and turn something off and make a single design
change, you get the zipline like 25% into the game.
You get the zipline super, super, super early.
In Death Stranding 1, zipline was one of the dead last upgrades you got.
It was almost all the way at the end.
And so it caused a really fucking weird situation where I'm climbing through the mountains and doing my mountain stuff on foot because I actually have to.
And I unlock the network. And then they go, actually go over the mountain to the other side, because that's right, that kind of thing.
actually go over the mountain to the other side, because that's right, that kind of thing.
You're flip-flopping.
One that I ended up doing is climbing to
the absolute tip-top of the mountain and
lining it up to the edge of
the network and putting it down in advance,
so I could actually link it up to the place I was just at and
Then when I do unlock that part of the network
I only have to place like two more back up the mountain and now I've already ziplined the whole area and now I've like
Automated the trip to this location and so I'm actually only taking the trip to new spots once
I'm never even taking the trip back. Okay, okay.
You're just going through, yeah, once entirely, okay.
Like, I am not even done with the mountain section
and I have almost totally ziplined it up to completion.
And I'm like, part of this is design,
but most of it is that I still know how to do this
from Death Stranding 1.
Okay. And, and And like I was expecting with all of these environmental things on the larger map
and stuff like that that I would be dealing with more complicated delivery
routes or more obstacles or whatever. This feels in terms of difficulty this
feels like the first game and the second and the first game would be the second game
In terms of because you have less today. It's harder. Yeah. Yeah, the challenge is increased. Mm-hmm
Okay, and this is also like, you know with no without the deterioration as much you said there was like roads to or whatever
Right, like yeah
I've built I built a road at the very the very first road in the game and it's been deteriorating over time over 55 hours
It's gone from 100% to 60%.
So I'm really not fucking worried about it.
So, I mean, this has been a discussion
for years in video games,
but like, sequels do have this thing, right?
Like, there's the-
Absolutely.
That the, how do you raise the challenge,
not present the exact same thing,
keep it exciting, even though a lot of the surprise
is gone, and, but you also want to you know you there's a
there's a gulf between again flame lurker and consort Radon you know that
we have to that we have to close here the other thing is that like the story is better told and worse.
Hmm.
The story is cleaner, quicker, more present,
more consistent, more understandable, and much less interesting.
Because it's not an explosion in constant confusion
and where you're learning about what the fuck
the world of The Death Stranding is like.
It's an endless barrage of character vignettes
that are all very interesting.
But it's like, it's the same structure as before,
even down to like the way you get Heartman.
Is like the same, you go through the same scene
with Heartman when you run into Heartman.
Okay.
So the world-
Because they have to re-explain that he's Heartman.
The world is already explained, so now we're just spending time on the specific character,
stories and arcs that they're going through.
The beats.
Also Higgs is like the worst character ever.
Good worst or bad worst?
No.
Bad.
Bad. Or bad worst no Like like he will probably rotate around to being so bad I love him
But right now he is the worst
He is so dumb and stupid
I'm not not sold by what you're saying
He I'm not not sold by what you're saying He feels like Troy Baker trying to get another shot at Kai Leng
Don't invoke Kai Leng, bro. Yeah, I'll invoke it. That's that's low
Kojima's above Kai Leng
That's brutal that's fucking brutal So, Kojima's above Kai Lang.
That's brutal. That's fucking brutal.
The other thing, and I will not name,
you know what, hold on, let's just,
let's just turn that off.
Okay.
To Emoto, just in case.
Okay, okay.
I will not name the character.
Okay.
I have encountered the stupidest, like, I don't mean like badly written, I mean the
objectively dumbest character Kojima has ever written, ever, by multiple orders of magnitude.
In which, like, I have learned this character's backstory and it has made me hate them in a way that every time they talk from now on,
all I can go is, you're stupid.
You're a stupid person.
Okay.
You are the dumbest motherfucker that has ever lived.
Okay. Because it's everything is your fault type of thing?
Yes.
Yeah, okay, okay. All right, all right.
No, you're like, you are an thing? Yes. Yeah, okay, okay. All right, all right.
No, you are an objectively dumb person.
Okay, okay.
In a way that ruins your life.
Okay, okay.
And it's crazy.
Okay.
It's fucking bananas.
I cannot think of one that is dumber, ever.
I mean I'm racing, but okay.
Yeah.
Like just bad dumb decision, man
as it were
So I'm I'm nearly to the end so I'm gonna keep trucking I have to see where this is going
It's just it's a super. It's a super safe sequel to the super weird not safe game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And that is very disappointing.
Huh.
I mean, do you literally just reinvent the wheel and the world for Death Stranding 2?
Well, here's the thing.
Maybe you just go to a different place entirely. you don't do a sequel right? Maybe you make a brand new game
That's just not the thing but also you're like there as there's always that like hit the credits and see what happens, right?
There's always that little absolutely I
It's
It's just this thing where
I it's it's just this thing where
One cojumbo was like I can't wait to spread my wings and do weird stuff. I'm like, oh Death Stranding. That's super weird What are you gonna do for Death Stranding 2 the same thing?
Again, the Death Stranding 1 and Death Stranding 2 are way more similar than any two Metal Gear games
Death Stranding 2 are way more similar than any two Metal Gear games. Okay. Yeah, I getcha. I getcha.
And he has remade those Metal Gear games into each other over and over and over.
Death Stranding is more Death Stranding 1 than it is anything else.
There's also something to be said for the team is familiar with the flow
and can do the thing they've done better this time around
in a more time efficient way as well for a studio.
But I thought that something like OD, for example,
the new project, I thought that that was going to be
Kojima's, Koji Pro's way of going about games
is gonna be like big Hollywood original entries, self-contained
to them, to each one.
So yeah, even announcing the sequel and kind of being like, we're going to build up a franchise
here was not what I expected.
So I also, I spoke to two friends of mine who both are insane.
And after beating Death Stranding 2, both went,
hey, I'm going to go through the director's cut of one again right now.
And both came away going, oh, yeah, no, DS1 is significantly better.
Hmm. And I was like, I can't believe you two are so fucking crazy that you went for it
just to know. But then again, I can respect that. It's it's safer. Interesting. It's so
safe. Interesting. Okay. Okay. Okay. And that's what's going on with me this week. Oh my god this week. I have so much fucking going on
Let's see
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Ah, the latest with Warframe.
Yeah, so basically I was talking up Rebecca Ford.
And Soulframe.
She's an amazing, wonderful cinnamon bun lady.
And I was like, Reb, you're doing a great job.
You should feel good.
And she was like, oh yeah, thank you, that's great.
How's the baby?
And we did that back and forth.
And then she was like, oh, TennoCon's gonna be really good.
I'm like, okay.
I believe her okay
That's it
Was
Was soul frame like was there was there more going on with that
There is gonna be a soul frame thing on
more going on with that? There is gonna be a Soul Frame thing on... there is gonna be a Soul Frame thing on at TennoCon. It's a part of it, okay. But it's not
gonna be the the Tenno Live which is the part that I'm gonna be tuning in for. Alright.
So with that, let's...
Also I played the alpha of Soul Frame.
That shit's far away.
Far away.
Okay. Yeah, I'm recalling last time that yeah, I'm
remembering it wasn't super an exciting conversation when you
brought it up last time. Yeah. Oh, there's a lot of Steve in
that game. And if you know, you know, and if you don't, you
don't. The main thing is like, man, the the hatred towards
vacuum continues.
Very, very weird, very intense hatred of vacuum. I don't know what Steve's deal is.
I hear the deep cuts and...
Okay, you know what we're gonna do is fuck it.
You don't have to, you don't have to.
There could be a documentary written
on the skill vacuum in Warframe and all it is is
That the radius that stuff gets sucked into your character in Warframe is too small. Oh
Yes, yes, yes, it'd be like five feet. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
And so then eventually a mod called vacuum came out and the mod basically you could attach it to like a certain type of little
Sidekick and it would increase that to like 30 meters so became the
single most popular mod the game had ever used and by the way by the way when
I say mod I mean into inside the game item not a not a modification of the game
I mean like the items you equip are called mods and Warframe okay okay and
then there was basically a back and forth for like fucking 10 years as to whether or
not vacuum should be universal and then oh okay you can have vacuum on these types of
carriers and then you get vacuum and blah blah blah blah blah and then it finally in
2024 they buffed it to universal right?
And then I played Soul Frame and Soul Frames like walk over to items and pick them up with
a button and I'm like
Steve you're crazy
Okay, like you're so mad about fucking vacuum now. Yeah that you there's no back extra steps actually
Okay, I. It's Scott, ah, whatever.
I can't talk about it from the context of this type of game.
I just know that when I'm playing a platformer like Gungeon or Isaac,
or any one of those kind of simple 2D games,
the idea of having a stat or so that increases
your vacuuming range,
I hate that it's not automatically just massive
to begin with.
I don't like-
I mean, you've played Vampire Survivors, right?
Exactly, right?
But I'm like-
Attract Orb?
Yes.
I was playing Vampire Survivors, I was like,
Attract Orb is the single best upgrade in entire game and every single person chat was like yes
Absolutely, it absolutely is but like
it's a feeling of
There's a few know there's a feeling of like getting a really good power of like I didn't have this but now I have it
And then there's a feeling of I deserve this. Why did you take it from me?
And I'm opinion that items should always just suck up, but that's that's what I'm saying
Every single game souls souls come from the blue from the other side of that map and get into your body
You're right. No matter how far away
I feel like you have taken away my ability to get everything that is rightfully mine and making me earn that back slowly
Doesn't feel good. It's like god damn it. Hurry up
Extra super crazy in warframe because whenever you hit an enemy they just explode
Yeah, to a million. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and you like there's there's warframes that like will just generate a death field around them that's like 50 meters long.
And it's like, okay, well, I need vacuum so that I can pick up anything, man.
Yes. Okay. Maximum vacuum should be the way the game works, except that when I say the game,
the feeling in games in general, I want that maximum vacuum feeling,
except if I'm opening a box with a thing in it.
Sure.
Then make a,
I got the cool thing, you know?
But that's the distinction.
Open a box or vacuum for free,
and anything less is actually a bad feeling
you're giving me the player.
Yeah, all right, there we go, we solved that.
Okay, quick break and we will.
Yeah, I gotta piss, man.
Oh, damn.
BRB.
Hey, let me ask you, if I, hey,
would it distract you from the pain
if you were sitting there getting tattooed
and you were just full to bursting with piss
and you're like, oh fuck, I gotta piss so bad,
would that distract you, do you think?
I mean, only if that excites you, I suppose.
I don't know.
Okay.
Don't tattoo me, I'll come.
Or piss.
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Nothing happened.
Nothing happened.
And if anything did happen, I suggest that you use AI to reduce the emotional and cognitive
load that comes with nothing happening.
I've got your emotional and cognitive load
right here, motherfucker.
Oh boy, you know, I think it's kind of like,
if we charge up a story about layoffs for long enough,
the number gets bigger and bigger. It's kind of like
a spirit bomb. If we just hold our hands up and hold our hands up for enough weeks in a row,
the number will get bigger and bigger until we finally drop it and it will be incomprehensible.
Not to mention, it's not just the layoff story, it's all the cloud makeup that gets applied
as it lands.
Microsoft, as of two weeks ago, laid off 9,000 people coming from the Xbox business.
But hey, that's 10% of King, that's 3% of the company of Microsoft.
But Phil Spencer says that the gaming business has never looked stronger.
And this is a difficult choices.
We have some blah, blah, blah, blah.
Sure.
But let's not forget.
That's the shot.
But let's not forget the chaser, shot, but let's not forget the Chaser,
which is that they also had a record performance in 2024.
Yeah, they did. Delivering $245 billion in annual revenue,
up 16% year over year,
and over 109 billion in operating income,
which is up 24%.
You don't say
Look at that
Business is booming things are
Growing and they'll never stop growing
There's a multiple pieces of follow-up to this the first of which is this was alongside
an order from on high, which is like, stop not
using AI in your work.
AI is now mandatory for your work.
Correct.
You have to use it.
We told, so that story we covered two weeks ago, in which we discussed the, you know,
the mandated, you will be followed by a robot.
Oh yeah, we'll get there.
We'll get there.
You just, he just posted a photo at me.
You will be followed by a little R2-D2
and that will, don't worry about it.
You must use the robot, you must use the AI
and feed it exactly what your tasks are every day.
And, uh, it'll be fine.
Shut the fuck up.
It's mandatory.
Um, so, so you're, you're, you're, yeah.
So a shot chaser.
And then I guess what would this be your lime and salt lick?
Well, the, the, the middle of the shot is also like the MMO that they canceled.
That was like seven years in development that Phil Spencer liked so much that every time he played it, other
people would have to be like, dude, we have a meeting.
He's like, oh man, what a great game.
Oh.
Just canceled that.
Loved it that much, huh?
Yeah.
Just killed that.
That's sick.
Seven years of dev on an MMO apparently was wrapping up and they're like, nah, kill it.
Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool
The Zenimax people are like you have stood there was a story today where the quote is you have stolen our future. Yeah
I was talking to people over at Zenimax during the layoffs
Like I mean like simultaneous to the layoffs
and
It was I have been locked out of my slack account. I don't know if I
have a job. No one on my floor knows if they're fired.
Let me just back it up a second because we read through these things and there's not
oftentimes an underlining moment per se. But we'll tell a story like, hey, 60 people got laid off here,
30 people got laid off there,
300 people got laid off over here at this big company.
The number I said at this beginning of the story was 9,000.
That is what?
900 indie teams?
90 gigantic teams.
It's incomprehensible.
You wanna count how many projects that, like what the fuck?
Yeah, no, no, you know, but whatever.
Money's, money's, money's, money's got, line go up.
That's good, that's good.
I have a feeling we're really building up to a really big line go down.
Mm, mm, mm. Because you don't sell anything. So so what feeling we're really building up to a really big line go down hmm
You can't make any money well well listen listen what matters what matters most right is
The advice that came from Matt Turnbull the executive producer at Xbox Game Studio publishing
this is a Cru time, right?
It's very, very important to make sure that when a big downturn like this occurs, you
want everybody to land and feel comfortable and the most human piece of advice you can
give came.
And I quote, these are really challenging times and if you're navigating a layoff
or even quietly preparing for one, you're not alone and you don't have to go it alone.
I know these types of tools engender strong feelings in people, but I'd be remiss in
not trying to offer the best advice I can under the circumstances.
I've been experimenting with ways to use LLMAI tools like ChatGPT or Copilot to help reduce
the emotional and cognitive load that comes with job loss.
Here are some prompt ideas and use cases
that might help you if you're feeling overwhelmed.
Career planning prompts.
Act as a career coach.
I've been laid off from a role in the gaming industry.
Help me build a 30 day plan to regroup,
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What kind of game industry jobs could I pivot to
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Resume and LinkedIn help.
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Okay, so we should just get the elephant out of the room right now. He did not write that.
He told the wrong person.
I didn't even think about the part where the thing itself...
It's very clear I didn't even think
about that part I didn't even think about that part clearly clear because
despite its terrible content it's like it's formulaic the bullet point list
points bold using lots of dashes, so let's just start there.
Let's just start there.
Sure.
Right?
Sure.
Second of all, it really goes to show how little that this the C-suite cares about you
is that they're delegating even like using delegate this to like your secretary or your
receptionist or something, right?
Um, have and then you'd sign it
But let's keep let's keep going sure sure sure yeah
On top of that it's so disconnected like the c-suite is so disconnected from the realities of humanity
That the idea of talking to your family co-workers or loved ones for emotional support does not even apply
It never even occurs anywhere in the fucking terminal LinkedIn brain CEO. Why don't I just talk to, I don't know, all of my also fired co-workers and we can get
together a labor solution.
Oh, we know?
Terminal LinkedIn fucking brain doesn't even occur to speak to a human being at any part of this process,
never mind why the process is occurring to begin with.
Also, and this is slightly outside the video games wheelhouse and more into the social
media landscape, like public health thing, but it is my opinion as me that anyone who
is offering an AI chatbot to you, if you are in a tumultuous time in your life, if you
are depressed, if you are suffering from any form of mental illness or medical issue
or just a general bad time, anyone who is offering that to you as a solution is doing
you concrete physical harm because these LLMs tend to just repeat whatever you like to hear
or feed into them. And there have been like a dozen cases of people getting delusions of grandeur or exacerbating
depressive episodes or schizophrenic tendencies and leading to people's deaths.
And not just the people using the machine, I mean other people's deaths as well when
the AI pushes them towards the messiah complex that
was hiding in there.
Like it is a legitimate public health danger and anyone offering that to you is attempting
to harm you.
I would call Matt Turnbull ghoulish but that word implies that he used to be human at some
point.
That's true.
So that would be a misnomer, if anything.
This is the single most out of touch thing
I have ever seen in my entire career.
Oh, I don't know.
I bet I could pull one out in like a couple seconds,
but it's a bit outside of our purview.
Yeah, I mean, okay, okay.
Well, I would, okay.
Well, okay, no, hold on, hold on.
Because to be fair-
How much could a banana cost, Michael?
Five dollars?
Because like the only other place my brain goes
is to the sexual criminal activity
of farting bosses at Ubisoft.
Like, I don't know what, you know,
strapping you to a chair and farting in your face is not like that's all. We're at another level of just like, yeah, you're
my slave. You're not my employee. I'm like, you know, without getting into a judge banging
a gavel in front of you, just the level of you're not a person here anymore. You don't
know where you work. Did you ever go to high school with anybody who was like wildly out of touch with the reality of everyone else and they're in
The world did you ever get like run into like some white girl who would ask you where your family goes skiing?
during the summer I
Mean no, but
No, I you know when you hear run into a couple and I'm just like, motherfucker, I got no money. What are you talking about? Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
No, I, you know, when you hear the word summering for the first time.
We went to Lake Meacham in the US because my grandparents are out there, like.
Yeah.
Well, first of all, like, they're not going to your high school.
And if they are, then like something went wrong.
No, I'm talking about when we went to Saja.
Ah, yes, yes, yes.
That's when I started to encounter those people.
True, true, true.
That's when you come down from the mountain to fraternize with the lowborn.
Yeah.
Oh, you guys have to take public transit?
Oh, I just have my dad drive me from Westmount.
It's like a five minute trip.
What, in your BMW? Yeah, Yeah, okay cool sick. That's awesome
Wow that must be all getting up early must be tough for you bitch fuck you
I mean not only do I remember those people but more so those people were over there
I remember the person who was trying to get in with those people
as badly as he could
It was so gross.
Oh, yo, yo, like like my skin peeled.
It just the fucking hangers on heels off of my body.
I start molting.
Yeah, so so I don't really know what more you do here, you know, but um
Literally and everybody joined the Union that's that's the answer
That's the actual I mean that's not cuz Zenimax is in a weird place
Where a lot of people who've had their projects cancelled and left with nothing can't be fired unilaterally because they're in the fucking Union
So they're in this weird fuck ass limbo.
God, I want to see the prompt so bad that's like,
hey, I just fired nearly 10,000 people.
What do I say to seem like a good person?
And then the AI was like,
oh, you should give them some tips
about using AI to help them feel better.
And then my turnball was like, no, no, no, less compassionate.
Dial it back. And then- then accidentally put some compassion in there cut out the part where it goes sure I can help you with that
You know like just
Wow, man, what like it like how many seconds total were spent before you pasted that?
God, yeah, we were watching like the US video game industry just completely kill itself.
Mm-hmm.
Like, it's crazy. Mm-hmm.
I can't wait. Like, this is a Canadian podcast. It's not like super overt, right?
But we both happen to live in Canada and have been for the whole time.
So it's like, I can't wait until we're like reading like a fucking Kotaku or like fucking Forbes article about
The video game industry is crashing and then in the footnote it goes well except for Europe and Canada and Japan and Brazil and China and Korea
I mean here is to 9000 potential employees of small studios doing cool shit, possibly. Who knows?
I really, really hope that we start seeing, like that's so many people, that's so many
projects, that's so, like it's incomprehensible. I really hope that we start seeing like
shit picking up steam. Yeah, just the absolute out of
touchness doesn't stop there, folks. It continues. Boosie.
It's fucking crazy. Boos. It's crazy, dude. Don't you get it?
Like, so, so check this out, right? If that dog wanted to join up and sign up to be part of the
Xbox graphics department.
Yes, yes.
Would you suggest that perhaps attracting people
to said department should show off some artwork
that people working in said department
might generate themselves to perhaps?
Yes.
Yeah.
Yes, I did.
It's interesting because there was an ad put out amongst all this Microsoft shit that's
been going down that says Xbox graphics is hiring.
There's a new development lead at its graphics department that's putting out a LinkedIn
post for job opportunities.
The ad advertising for people to join the team is generated using AI.
And it is a...
And it's obviously generated using AI.
Like, it's a... there's a computer monitor with the fucking screen on the back of the fucking monitor.
It's dead ass.
The person... there's an Xbox...
It's one of the worst examples because not only is it shlop,
but it's the person who generated it couldn't even bother looking at it once. Not even once.
Negative fucks. Like I'm sure there's an insert the brand logo to make sure that it is, you
know, not breaking any brand platform guidelines. So that Xbox logo was inserted correctly, but.
It was likely added afterwards.
But yes, yes, this is a graphic of a girl in a green shirt
staring at a monitor and the back of the monitor
has the actual text and screen on it.
Join.
You know what?
It's almost brilliant if you're kind of like,
we don't know what we're doing
We need help, please help us
Right it's a cry for help more than anything I dude I don't know I add job security I
Feel like if you're in Microsoft right now, or if you're in a company that's like super pushing
AI really really really hard
and you're like a technical person or an artist or something like that you need
to start thinking about getting out and finding something that is not doing this
because we are going so AI is eventually gonna crash once it becomes obvious that
they're just chasing like a fucking investment pile of shit that doesn't
actually do anything. We're already
seeing in a bunch of industries having to hire back people that AI was supposed to replace.
There's a great article I was reading two days ago about there's a new cottage industry
of people who work on AI. So do you remember during COVID, there were a lot of places,
particularly in the States, that cut nursing staff. They're like, ah, we're
gonna save money. We don't need that many nurses. But then
COVID happens and turns out you do need those nurses. So you
hire back the same people as travel nurses at five times the
cost because it's emergency hours, right? And there became
an this large industry of travel nurses that are like,
I'm making way more money than I ever did as a nurse because I'm on permanent emergency call
Right that is happening to AI now
Where there is a cottage industry of people whose job it is to come in at like $200 an hour and
Fix your shitty press release that the AI
Sent out or fix the logo treatment or or the art that the AI shit out,
and it's costing like 10 times more than it would
to just have the guy do it.
But regardless, when this thing eventually crashes,
people that are in like Microsoft graphics department
are gonna have this fucking block
of their fucking work history go,
okay, did you do that or did the AI do it? Did you do the good parts? Or did the AI do the good parts?
Did you do the shitty parts? How hard did you fight AI implementation at your job? Show me your work.
Oh, you can't because it's under lock and key to a corporate NDA. So I'm just gonna have to, like it's fucking mess.
Yeah, I think what we're kind of seeing is essentially
the last couple of years have been, you know,
companies slowly flirting with the idea
a little bit more and a little bit more,
waiting for things to get a little bit better and so on.
And of course, external pressure from investors to be like,
hey, the trend, the hot word, it's going now.
Why don't you hurry the fuck up, right?
Get these people out of here.
What are we doing? And I feel like, now, why don't you hurry the fuck up, right? Get these people out of here, what are we doing?
And I feel like, yeah, this is, you know, every,
like a lot of these companies, again,
for their own preservation have flirted,
but like this is Microsoft taking the full plunge,
you know, and going one to one, all humans out,
those who are here feed the AI what your job is so that it can replace
you.
And then also just using it on the back end for this type of thing and for the message
we just described and such.
They're diving hardest and fastest into this and they're also in the most trouble in this
generation so they're the most desperate.
So like, is just, are we just looking at the first flails
of like them getting the fuck out
of this entire corner of the industry?
I don't know.
I don't think there's ever gonna be
another Xbox platform ever again.
I think they're gonna just add Game Pass support
to different shit.
Well, Pat, This is an Xbox
I don't even have the energy for I don't even have the energy for I think that I think the inversion of power and the
the the implementation of AI stuff is is
particularly nuts because I want to quote the I'm pretty sure
I'm pretty sure this was Chris Wolfhart talking about it,
which is the goofiest thing about all of this
is that the single position most likely
to be effectively replaced by AI decision-making
is the C-suite, because the C-suite don't actually use
any objective data in any of their decisions at all.
It's all based off of vibes and personal philosophies that they've invented for themselves based
off of nothing.
So any objective criteria being added to these business decisions would be an improvement.
But the Sele Dominoes don't know that yet.
Like a fucking Google search with Boolean would probably have better fucking results
at picking winners and losers in the games industry.
It's one of the weirdest things about people who follow games, like me and you being enthusiast
content creators and people listening to this or watching this being enthusiast members
of the hobby, is like, I could pick a random person in this chat and ask them if a game
was going to bomb or succeed and I think they would have a better chance of getting it right than the head of Microsoft.
Yeah, no, that's not course. That's not even, there's no question to that.
Because you're talking about people
who also leave this industry and jump into,
I don't know, literally any,
business is just a concept.
They can jump into fucking nail production.
They can jump into post-packaging.
It doesn't matter.
I'm just a professional, sit on top of the business
and spout words at it person.
So the idea that you're actually in touch
with what you're making or the people that are
pouring a lot of their energy and fucking soul
into what they're making is insane.
That's not, obviously you're looking for a
bottom line
profit maker, you know, that, again, investors, et cetera. It's the same conversation we've had forever.
But that-
It is like to some degree, like more specifically the US,
because in the US you could be sued for not providing
your shareholders adequate value,
which is not a fucking thing.
Sure, but every single one of these C-suite members,
like the day after they join said suite,
then has to go get their Xbox controller or Switch
or PlayStation for the first time and be like,
we're now a console family and look how we're excited we are
to play a video game for the first time.
You know, in the same way that you're like, oh, yeah
If I'm now in in the C suite at Tupperware I've look at my whole family's using it now
Like it's what are we talking about? These people have no investment in any of this shit long term
They're the most transient shit. I mean a lot of them don't have investment in their own lives or families either
But that's well, you know
What they do have is fucking Points on the back end is what they have, you know?
So anyway, again, I don't want to let the second part of that story be ignored, which
is that the numbers have gone up, you know?
To those of you things are booming off
stay mad and
Organize
Yeah, talk to each other about the nature of capital
Sucks sucks though. That's that's the nature of capital
also make cool indies and then make make make single and double a production about that and like that is the obvious like well I mean the big
company laid you off why don't you go make a new company and it's like the
problem is it's like you need money you do to make this is of course of course
live on every time this is absolutely a real, real issue, yes.
And it's just the people that are,
it's just the people that are the moneylenders,
so to speak, in these situations,
the scale and the groups need to be much smaller
with people that are more in touch with the industry
that understand and care about what the fuck
they're funding or making.
Like, do you give a shit is is a mandatory
question behind where that money is coming from. You know
that's that's like.
Oh, it's gone. Okay. No. Is it? No. Alright. Make a new indie
game is tough because you need the money to live on.
It makes me think of the people who worked in Rhode Island for that fuckhead baseball
man.
Who the fuck was that?
Curtis Schilling?
Kurt Schilling, who got everyone to fucking roll double mortgages on fucking two properties.
And then the company goes under and they're stuck in fucking Rhode Island with two mortgages. Like those people are fucked over 38
studio like fucked fucked and they made a sick combat juggle system that they
burnt on his shit in the reckoning. I think the best piece of advice I've seen
from game devs talking about this recently
is don't move to somewhere that you would need to sell your house.
If things go.
To get a new opportunity.
Like don't.
Don't.
Physical relocation.
Sell your house or buy a house upon the move to your new place because you're probably
going to get laid off
in 24 months to 36 months.
Start posting on French production forums
for indie groups getting together.
Put your SoundCloud shit out there.
Get on SoundCloud.
I mean, shit.
Yeah.
And, you know, in the meantime,
while that's happening,
hey, how about a simple wrap up on this one?
The ongoing story that is stop killing games.
Okay, stop it. Stop it. Don't do it. Stop. Stop killing them. Are you about to kill a game?
You look like you're about to put the game down. Hey! Hey! I don't think my criticisms are
that strong of Death Stranding. Video games
Europe lobby. I see you. You're about to kill a game.
Stop it. Put it down. Unfortunately,
that lobby consists of everybody. Last I checked. Everybody. Everybody in Europe? I think we're talking everyone.
Let me pull up the, yeah, video games Europe.eu.
The lobby that's against stop killing games includes Activision Blizzard, Netflix, Microsoft,
Sega, Roblox, Riot Games, Nianta, WB Xenomax, all of it, Square Enix, etc. So if I remember correctly, this was born out of Ubisoft taking the crew offline for
like, and disabling like people who owned it from playing it for no reason, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so the story, it seems like it got like pretty complex, but overall Accursed Farms is the YouTuber behind this campaign
and basically has been pushing for a EU and for a UK specific parliamentary recognition
of essentially just making sure that when a game gets purchased by the consumer, if
the security feature on the game, if the game has a call home feature,
that the developers should provide an easy way
for them to keep playing if the call home feature
or server gets switched off.
So if there's any sort of thing where it has an offline mode
and the game is going offline from live service,
but you've bought it, the game being taken away
from you after you've spent
your fucking money on it.
Pretty simple concept.
One of the things about it was that the crew had
a fully functional single player mode
that didn't require online authentication at all.
Yeah.
But Ubisoft was like, nah, no more crew for anybody.
And so we've talked a bunch about, I think,
over the years, these games where people get them back online through
You know whether it's a halo or Titanfall and they just get home servers going um Metal Gear Solid 3
subsistence like you know online mode yeah crazy shit
Because yeah, that sucks if you've paid money for a thing and then they said fuck you and turn the servers off so
The my understanding too though is that like some of the complication of getting this to be
actually actionable is that in at least I think the UK proposition or so after a certain number
of signatures, it doesn't guarantee that action will be taken. It just means that people in
parliament will discuss it. They're forced to acknowledge. It has to be heard. It's forced to be acknowledged and discussed openly.
And in some cases, they just kind of go like, ah,
we don't care about this or whatever.
So that's unfortunately, I think,
the downside of the nature of just getting signatures
doesn't necessarily mean something actually will happen.
Yeah, if it's going into the UK parliament,
you can only hope that it gets in on a sober day.
Yeah.
I think for the EU, it's a little bit different.
And it seems like the latest news story there
is that they got the vice president
of the European parliament to back the campaign.
So the quote was, a game once sold belongs to the customer.
So cool.
That's promising.
Again, this being turned from an idea into something actually actionable seems like a
far way to go, but it would be cool if the thing that you paid your money for was not
then taken away from you when the company said fuck you. I think the strangest thing about this being a news
story by far is that this seems like such an obvious universally positive
thing for literally everyone that you would have to be a crazy person to take
any stance against this whatsoever. Like, if this went through and all that, like, who could it possibly
harm at all? So, Video Games Europe, the lobby that has all the companies I mentioned, is one
person, certainly. There could be others. But for the lobby that large, their whole deal is basically, we don't want you
to have to force extra potential costs, legal liabilities, and take away developer choice
in the process of how they want to take the thing that the customer paid
for away from them.
Yeah I'm jorking it through my diaper.
Yes.
Well you figured it out.
Yeah.
I just pulled it out over the top.
Yes.
No.
Essentially the Video Games Europe argument is that the creator of the game reserves the
right to perpetually fuck over the purchaser of
the game and if you stop that from happening then you will that that takes
that restricts the developers freedom to fuck over the player like the same kind
of logic it was like it costs more to not dump it in the river. But it's faster. It's right there.
The river's right there.
Yeah.
So, Wully, there's something in content creation
that's so funny, which is,
there's always this attitude of like,
well, I'm gonna be part of the game development sphere one day
So I desperately want to make sure that I don't talk too much shit about this person or that person and speak too
loudly about this or
Talk about any mechanics that would hurt my future sales on my thing in the future. It's a bit too late for that
future sales on my thing in the future. It's a bit too late for that, Pat.
It's been one of the most infuriating things,
and we've run into like dozens of people like that.
By doing this podcast here with me for the last 10-
Oh, doors are closed!
It's a bit too late!
Oh, yeah, they're, oh man.
Listen, man-
My opinions are mine alone.
Look, the problem with the aforementioned diarrhea that I was just quoting is that, um...
Okay, so, Europe is a different place from North America.
And-
Very true.
And being a different place means that they have different attitudes towards things.
They are potentially more willing to go, hey, fuck you.
When it comes to things like, you know, the fortnight dark patterns, for example.
Yeah, we've also seen Australia get on top of bullshit.
We've seen literally China be like, hey, if you're going to do Gacha, you've got to show the percentages
because get the fuck outta here.
Because of the children.
Right, yeah, so different places
have different attitudes towards that.
Like you load up Horse Game
and every single time you click on it,
it goes, hey, if you're a minor, fucking chill, maybe.
The list of companies that I described
that are part of the video games Europe Union
is extensive and there is, I described that our part of the video games Europe Union
is extensive and there is like negative chance
that America could ever, could even fathom, could begin to think of a dream of a hope.
This is the fun part where the Europe is a large enough
region with enough people in
it that represents a large enough market share for this kind of consumer action, is that
decisions made over there would in some way, even if not directly, affect us and our American
buddies down south and people in Japan.
Because specifically for this, for stop killing games, if you ascertain that the consumer has a legal right to a game,
if they've purchased it and it has to stop phoning home,
then that means that that version of the game has to be provided to Europeans,
and there's nothing stopping non-Europeans from having that version of the game also.
Yeah. Well, the interesting trick here in a lot of these things is that if one significant
enough market is forced to do something, then it becomes more cost effective to provide
that everywhere on a single skew than to divvy it up.
And so the hope is that if enough places are forcing this through, then places like America,
it just becomes cost effective to not make a fuck over you for living their version of
it.
That's the hope.
One of the reasons we have steam refunds is because Australia mandated refunds.
And Australia isn't that large of a country in population, but what it did cause
My assumption is that steam was like well, we're gonna have to do a full refund program in Australia
It's gonna look really fucking bad if we only offer that shit in Australia
We're gonna look like the biggest motherfuckers in the world
And I assume that is part of the reason why that
refund like process rolled out to the rest of the world.
Yeah. I just know that when you look at this list of companies that are against the idea
and you see literally the 30 biggest video game companies in the world all there, it's
like I don't want to pay. Well, the power behind that is the shareholders.
You know, nothing to fucking shake a stick at.
I mean, that is a that is a an uphill battle.
But hey, yeah, no, it would be nice.
It would be nice if you didn't put the game down.
Don't kill it. Stop it.
It's just stop it.
What an easy thing to get behind hmm what a crazy crazy easy way to
get by would it be would it be batshit crazy would it be batshit nuts to just just to swerve
on that and find a reason oh my god you'd have to be fucking bananas, just a total buffoon.
And yet.
Somehow.
Let's see how it goes.
What else is going on over here?
I think the...
Um...
I don't know if you've seen it, probably not, but on the off chance that you haven't, I'm
gonna just show you a picture.
Um, they have announced a new Kamen Rider.
Kamen Rider Zets.
And...
Just... just look at it.
I just want you... Alright, I will look at it. Just look at it. I just want you to-
All right, I will look at it.
Just look at it.
Yo, that's cool!
It's cool!
No!
Yeah, it's cool.
I like it.
I like it.
All right?
That's really good, dude.
That's a really good Kamen Rider design.
That's it!
I just want you to look at it.
I just want you to look at it.
Oh, I love it.
Don't lose your dream.
That is such a good Kamen Rider design. Misamero. Yeah. look at it. Oh, I love it. Don't lose your dream. That is such a good common rider design.
Mezamero, that's it.
They announced the new one,
and I just want you to look at him.
Oh, that's super good, I love that.
That's super slick, but also classic.
It's the classic colors, and it's the belt over,
the belt is a chest strap. The design is so sick, dude
And you know what else is fun is that this is going to be premiering September 2025 in Japan
Oh cool, that's soon and America and Canada and Hong Kong and Korea and Thailand Taiwan
Vietnam etc. It is going to be an international
Kamen Rider premiere.
Bro bro I'm gonna have my little baby watch Kamen Rider and learn that he kicks he kicks
evil.
Get the fuck in that's so cool. That's really cool. It's an international finally debut
with the thing you know. They've been of course. There's been the the translation
Efforts before but in terms of debuting a new series at the same time. They had the right. This is this is cool. Uh
Yeah, I just I just wanted you to look at just look at that boy. That's great
God damn it. I think that's just super
in the meantime Gav is hot.
Beyond that, what else?
There's a little bit of that.
Remember, Inti Creates?
They made Mega Man Zero, Mega Man Zero X Advent.
Yeah, they're all right.
And then they made Gunvolt.
Oh, all right.
All right.
They're making a new game.
They announced it.
Okay.
It's called Majogami.
And it looks pretty.
It looks kinda cool.
I see lots of paper platform slashing things happening.
It looks all right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you know what?
Like, okay, I did not like Gunvolt.
I enjoyed the previous games they made.
I have room in my heart for Inti Creates to do what they do once again.
And let's see.
Let's see how this goes.
But I like the style of what we're seeing here with a witch doing lots of cool pretty casting textures
and things flying all over the place.
There's never been a problem with the feeling
of an Inti Creates platformer.
My issues have always been strictly mechanical.
So I'm hoping for the best with this new game, Majogami, coming to Switch 2 and all
the rest.
And beyond that, did you see Ken?
I saw a screenshot of Ken.
He looks dirty.
So, Ken is coming to City of the Wolves and his beard is too pronounced. I that's my only thing
I think the rest of his scrungy dirty ass Ken look is totally on point
They got him looking as he should but the beard it should be more
Faded and and scraggled. It's it's too
Colored in and loud, you know
and and and scraggled. It's too colored in and loud, you know? And yeah, sure enough, just like that ending as predicted in the SF6 Terry story, Terry Bogard walks up and picks Ken
up off the ground, you know, just sitting in the dirt,zing around and you can give some terry a look. That's basically like
She took the kids terry
We'll see how ken works with uh, no crouching medium kick
Think about that, isn't that weird? It's really fucking strange.
Yeah. They've done it in the other crossover things before a little bit, but he's got his Jinrai. He'll probably be fine.
Cool. Shall we take a letter or two?
Before that, there was part of my week that I forgot to talk about.
Let's go.
Very shortly, but you might have noticed that I talked about streaming a lot this week,
and Paige has also been streaming a lot more recently.
I think she might be streaming later tonight as well as on Sunday.
But part of that is because we have made the decision as a couple to quit Dungeons and
Dragons in our current campaign.
Ah, time has been reclaimed.
Time is back.
Okay.
Okay.
The long and short of it, like the really, really simple, we really like the group that
we're in, like now. And we like where it was going back and forth with some things
Both of us being in the campaign is the problem because that means that there is a babysitter cost per D&D
And the babysitter cost
over a month
Way too high for something that I get excited sometimes being cancelled, okay, okay, right?
Okay, okay
Yeah, yeah fair
It was one of those things where we talked about it on on our respective channels
and we talked like oh, we have a really good babysitter that we really like and she's like $25 an hour and
We talk like, oh, we have a really good babysitter that we really like and she's like $25 an hour.
And people who don't have kids go, oh my god, that's crazy.
And people who do have kids go, wow, that's really good actually.
Right?
Can the child learn to roll a d20?
No, man.
Can't even give the child a d20.
Can the child?
The child will eat the d20. Can the child learn to not copy your character sheet?
No, man. We're working on ABCs.
Because I think I think you can you can get further
No, well alright
but yeah, the long and short of it is like we're like, I like sometimes I'd be like, sometimes D&D would get canceled by one of the other people because it was
like, you know, they got busier, they got work stuff. And me and Paige would go, oh, sick,
one of us can stream or let's go out to dinner instead. Like, it's just like, for the thing
that is representing like the number one cost of babysitter dollars
In our household. Yeah for it to being a thing that I usually enjoy pretty much
Yeah, instead of being the most fun thing we do all month. It's it just didn't yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it doesn't fucking work
But you have now like had a tabletop experience.
Oh, absolutely. And granted, huge proportions of that experience were wildly stereotypical.
Like crazily, insanely stereotypical. And we had lots of adventures in learning social
dynamics with D&D people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the basic reality is that I have some buddies
of mine over at Discord that do D&D campaigns
and I've put my hat in the ring for when they start
a new campaign in six months to a year.
But until that kid's going to school,
me and Paige probably have to split.
If we play D&D, we probably just can't be
in the same fucking campaign because it just kills time
Yeah, no that's a very very
disappointingly reasonable reason
As opposed to you know the bit epilogue part four, you know
Though the biggest thing for me like Paige is very bummed out about it because she was enjoying
it, but she agrees with me that this is just probably for the best.
My biggest bummer is that I was about to hit level five and I never got to cast fireball
on the party by accident.
The big old, the big, by accident.
I never, I never got to be like, how big is this room?
And then go fuck it. I never I never got to be like how big is this room and then go fuck it. I don't
care. Well, yeah, no, I it's tabletop and tabletop and is a is a fun thing in the right
context and yeah, hopefully that can y'all can figure that out in a different way. And
you know, I mean, there's there's DND but, but then there's stuff that's not D&D, you know,
there's there's if you ever branched out into other things,
you could always find some fun stuff. You could you could you
could jump in in a fucking robot, you know. So I mean,
there's, there's all kinds of places you could go.
Let's
Yeah, that's that's what's going on with that. So the schedule
is freed up. Once again, Let's take some a break because I think that dog is asking to go out do it. Okay. Let's take some letters. CastleSuperBeastBale at gmail.com is...
That's where you would send your letter.
Gabe says, hey Pat and Woolly, re-watching the Tekken 8 streams, realized just how many
games have you fighting your own dad in a cinematic boss battle?
Press F to fight your dad in the rain. What's your favorite dad fight?
This is a spoiler if it conversation potentially because some games are going to be like I have
one that's like relatively recent. I got that is a I got one. Yeah. Well, I got two actually.
Yeah, two good. What do you yeah, I think my two favorite are probably
the owl from Sekiro
Yeah, I know that's your dad. Yeah, um
and fucking Hades
Yeah, Hades. That's your dad. Mm-hmm. I have to
Fight your mom in
Metal Gear Solid 3 mmm
Not the same question, but that's that's a good answer too. That's the best fight your dad in
Metal Gear Solid 2
Yeah, and fight your dad in Devil May Cry
Yeah
Yeah, I mean for sure fight your dad yeah in Metroid
It's the thing with the devil may cry it's like of course it's the best fight you're dead, but it's not the dad
I want to fight
We did that and it was lame
We did that and it was lame, which was kind of funny actually.
No, but you want the good version, you know? Just do it but make it good.
Yeah, yeah, no, the owl was a really fun one
and I remember putting it through the like grind motions
to be like, okay, I have to learn this startup
to the startup of your animations. And in particular, the, I have to learn this startup to the startup of your animations
and In particular the what was it? Yeah, he does the mccurry counter to you
You know, which is awesome. Mm-hmm
Oh
Death Stranding
One for the record
Yeah thematically more than mechanically, but you know it was cool it's cool
All right, let's take one over here from
That's movie about fighting your dad that was hot rod
Okay, I can't do movies cuz no time we're gonna get us we're gonna be here forever
Just want to say fighting your dad and hot rod is awesome
What about bad Margera?
God damn it I
Hate Bam Margera. I know so much. I know I almost blew up a sponsored stream over how much I hated him
Yeah, that's
how much I hated him.
Yeah, that's about right. I almost said fuck it, I don't even care and went nuts,
but I was like, mm.
Jesus Christ, Bam.
Getting crazy over here.
All right, here's one.
No name given, hey mom and dad.
What are some games or hobbies you feel like No name given, hey mom and dad. What's up? I'm the mom.
What are some games or hobbies you feel like you've fallen out of love with?
If you can't think of any, then give us a good kite story or else chat will call you
a poser.
Love your son, K, thanks, bye.
Wow.
Oh, that's really good.
Wow.
Well, for- My heart is broken when I think about FF14 and how I don't have any desire Wow. Oh, that's really good. Wow.
Well, my heart is broken when I think about FF14 and how I don't have any desire to play
it at all.
Can I just say for the record, sorry, that Punch Mom and I drove up to a open area on
a windy day up north and flew that whale around.
Oh, that's cool. And, you know, it wasn't a perfect windy day,
but we did the best we could with the situation.
Got some fun photos out of it,
and that's for me, not for the internet.
Go fuck yourself, I have a private life.
Please give to the internet.
Wait, kite memories are private?
Some of them, you know.
Dude, okay, so yesterday, literally yesterday, at 5 p.m., I'm like, hey little man, you know. Dude, okay. So yesterday, literally yesterday at 5 p.m.,
I'm like, hey little man, you need to nap.
You have not napped.
And he goes, no.
I go, no, we're gonna go upstairs, we're gonna go nap.
And he goes, okay.
And then he asks for specific books.
So I read him the specific books
and I look at my perfect little guy, right?
And he's like getting sleepy and I'm like, man,
I'm gonna think back on this one. I'm an old man and I'm like man. I'm gonna think back on this on
I'm an old man, and I'm gonna be like this was like
Maybe one of the best moments of my life, and then he looks at me, and he slapped my tummy
I'm gonna admit it. Oh
The sustained duration crucial yeah crucial to the bit oh man too bad
And now it's really locked in now that memories forever that's great that's great the kids the kids are gonna be alright
That's great. That's great. The kids the kids are gonna be alright
Yeah, um in terms of hobbies. I have fallen out of love with see there's hobbies that drop off But not because I'm like turning against them per se
time or
Yeah, but there is one thing that I can say like it's
Unfortunately just been long enough and life has changed in such a way that it's not a thing.
It's, I feel, this is going to hurt some people.
I know, like if Mello-
It's fighting games, isn't it?
No, no, no, hey, no.
The trick is to do it professionally so that you can never truly be divorced from the hobby.
Yeah, that's true.
Now I'm mad.
I feel like I'm going to break some people's hearts like mellow if he hears this but
Seeking out new music is just something I have not done in
Forever and I have been relying on
People I know to just send me their tastes and I check and I fuck with the shit
They send me but for me myself, it's been so long that it would count as an answer to this question.
Yeah, no. So that that makes perfect sense.
There's a real time expenditure to seeking it out yourself.
But also that happens to a lot of guys our age, Willie.
You turn on the oldies channel, you know, you know what?
This is good enough.
This has got all the things I like on it.
You just fucking said that's that's only a half joke oh yeah like you said no you settle into what
you're comfortable with you know that's it that's it you know I mean shit um
it's one thing when you're loading screen music is restricted to be
video gamey because to be video game because it's YouTube safe but then once that comes off and all of Spotify is at your leisure and then I'm like
I
don't know
free Phoenix Wright turnabout
Let's get some 33 soundtrack
Yeah, five hours and then let's you know what and then right after that
Let's just hit up new job ass and loop right back around to ace combat. You know that reminds me
Piece of news that we didn't cover
Did you see the ghost of Yotay fucking 20 minutes presentation? Oh, I thought that was happening later
It did already happen Yeah, okay that happened. Yeah. Okay.
Okay, there's a bunch of shit in there. Whatever, I'm gonna skip past all of it.
There's one thing specific to you for there.
Kurosawa mode will now be, I think, higher contrast and more wind.
So it looks more like Kurosawa.
Actually black and white.
They're also adding Miki mode, which is closer camera and more blood and mud.
Takashi.
And they are adding Watanabe mode, where the soundtrack will be replaced with a lo-fi samurai
intro soundtrack.
Whoa!
And it's called that specifically?
It's called Watanabe mode.
Oh my god, okay
Kurosawa, Miki and Watanabe is a pretty fucking hard filter to that hot
That's it might turn on the water that say I might actually do that. That's kind of incredible. We're going okay
So one arc we shampoo
Another arc we seven Seven Samurai.
Yeah, okay.
Ooh, ooh.
That's, do I even want to play the base game?
You know?
I hate these types of things.
Like, who the fuck's gonna go through Resident Evil 5
with the fucking yellow filter, green, or whatever and then I look at this
I go hmm. I actually I think I liked Watanabe's music better than than the ghost of the original score
I think that might just be a direct upgrade. This is a yeah
This is a this is a strange proposition in which you're providing content
That is for bonus playthrough that I might just make my default
That's incredible and then you can play the bonus playthrough with the original score be like oh, that was cool. That was cool
Yeah, it was alright, you know
Nice, okay
Yeah, there was
Where yeah that that that was it was a half an hour presentation with some other stuff. Okay, I gotta check that out.
They showed a lot of shit in that.
Mmm.
There's a lot.
Like when you do the samurai confrontation.
Oh yeah.
The dog will also join up with it So you're doing like like multiple opponents at once and the dog is also doing like the samurai draw but with dog mouth. Oh
Man
Tsushima was fun
Yeah, I'm down. I'm down. That's hot. All right. I gotta go watch that then
We um Man Alright, I gotta go watch that then. We...
Man.
Yeah, I-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh, we'll be back next week. Uhhh...
Sorry, no, no, okay.
Oh, did we run out of good emails?
Uhhhh...
After the one.
Here we go. Here we go. Here we go.
It's on you, Max.
Okay.
Says, hey Pat and Woolly.
What's up?
Just finished Expedition 33 the other day and I had a blast with it, but I encountered balance issues that seemed to haunt a similar number of RPGs.
The difficulty drop that comes when fighting the final boss versus the super boss.
Absolutely. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's like the worst...
It's like that game's single glaring flaw is that the difficulty just starts to fly to pieces at about the 70% mark
in both directions
I later learned of a few things I could have done to solve that for e33 specifically
But my question is more of a general problem for other RPGs that have this problem
I feel like most people put the game down after reaching credits, so they'd want to do everything first before
One game I can think of that massively has this issue is SMT5.
One of the endings is locked behind beating a super boss
before you even get to the last zone.
I mean, that's just sounds like it. That's SMT.
That's ridiculous.
The question for you guys is,
what are some of the possible solutions a studio could do to prevent
the ending fight from feeling lackluster?
Or a cakewalk compared to something earlier make two instances of the final boss with different stats have a limit to your damage output
Much love to both of your families
From max. Thank you
Okay, so I
Would like to hear your thoughts on this because I have I have been thinking about this a lot and I have a definitive
Series of thoughts. Yeah ready to go. Um, I
Mean I think about how obviously expedition 33 was an insane
Experience with scaling and they had to patch the game to allow you to handle it and capping you and even that's like that is a genuine bad
Problem you should we shouldn't have to be self capping on the fucking yeah self capping at nine nine nine nine or
You know each the digit up from that is a solution, but it's not the most elegant ones as
As much as I love expedition 33 and its gameplay
I think that they could have solved a lot of their gameplay
issues and scaling problems if the multiplications on those
stats were additive instead of multiplicative.
Just calm it down a little bit.
I think the game would be a lot more fun gameplay wise if the
strongest your attack could go is like 250% above your base
attack.
Instead of Balotro.
Instead of a trillion.
Yeah. Yeah. is like 250% above your base attack. Instead of Balotro. Instead of a trillion.
Yeah.
Or make a thing so that it's like you can do that multiplicative addition on spending
three points to, you know, whatever, build up a super turn or something.
But I get what you mean by that.
Expedition 33 is such an odd specific duck though, with all its weird picto systems
that let you over juice your offense and have zero defense,
which other RPGs are not gonna necessarily support.
The thing is, is when I think about other games
with the Super Boss thing,
my reference points is limited to the games I've played,
but when I think about like metaphor, for example,
I had no problem with that,
because while I was really, really strong
by the end of that game, by beating the super boss, you're ready to just, you know, cakewalk
all the way through to the finale.
It's crazy.
I kind of am like, I like the idea that the super boss is good optional lore that adds
to the story, but is that remains optional.
It should, it shouldn't ever ever feel completely, completely mandatory,
but it should supplement the story in a good way.
I kinda, yeah, I don't know, I think like,
the maybe you can implement something kind of how the,
sort of Souls game version of like,
you're going to another place
that has a specific scaling system for it
You know in a way right like if you made that fight have something unique about
How your power level were scaled that didn't apply to the rest of the game?
So that could potentially solve it. I'm playing through the horizon DLC right now and
Do you remember when I played horizon? I beat horizon Horizon I said my biggest complaint is that fights become solved
Like yes, yes. Yeah has like sequence
So you can repeat you get to the DLC and you encounter what's called a scorched version of most enemies and the first thing
They do is massively jack up all their elemental resistances. Okay
Um, and so fighting them is actually much more difficult
But also enemies that are scorched
are almost always placed around these towers.
And the towers do two things.
They pulse out massive bursts of energy
that heal all the enemies.
You have to not just beat them, but beat them fast.
And the best armor set in the game for Horizon
is the only game that has a halo shield,
like a energy shield on it.
And when the pulse hits you it turns it
Off okay
It fucks up the technology in the suit and turns off and it does a really good job of like balancing that out by like
Having a in-universe reason to turn off one of your strongest abilities, but not one that's like player controlled
Just defensive and also juicing the stats of the other things for
Expedition 33 I think you could fix that game like this
by having a certain pick toe be split into two
Sure the pick toe that unlocks the damage cap
Yep
Should have actually been part one and part two and it should have been unlocks the damage cap from 10k to 100k
Yeah, and 100k to a million and then then when you beat the final boss
You should get the second part of it,
which is fully unlocks the damage cap.
Yep.
And I think that the best game to ever do it
is Star Ocean 2.
Star Ocean 2 has the final dungeon,
and then it has the super dungeon.
If you put one, if you unlock
and take a step into the super dungeon,
the final dungeon reorients itself to the assumption
that you beat the Super Dungeon.
Ooh, that's elegant.
That's real nice.
That's work.
If the final boss is built for you hitting level 90,
unless you walk into the Super Dungeon,
and if you walk into the Super Dungeon,
the final boss reorients for you being a level 200
Go fuck yourself. You did it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I like that that takes work, but that's a real nice way to do that
There's there's a problem though
If you're Pat and you go to the super dungeon at 10 years old and go wow this looks really hard
I'm leaving
And then get to the final boss time strong yeah yeah yeah start the whole game over well or you go
back to the Super Dungeon and then you just run around the first floor of it
and then leave when you're you know strong enough, but yeah, that's true. That was that that feature was hidden
interesting
Yeah, I also there's also stuff where
It kind of challenges that turn the fight into like a puzzle as well as a boss fight so the second dragon in
metaphor is like
It's it has has the whole bit where like your HP drops to like one and you have
to basically like fight around a low HP build and it becomes a more tactical fight than
a just, you know, how much can I hit and how much can I heal, you know? Fights like that
that kind of like are sort of like, I don't care what your level is,
you have to solve this unique problem,
could also be interesting,
but you can trivialize it once you learn it once
and make it too much of a puzzle.
So it's hard to balance that together.
I like that one you mentioned though.
Like right now, right this second,
there is a essentially play order I could recommend for Expedition 33
that would be, in my amateur opinion, a fix to the game's scaling problems, which is
you get the damage uncapped at the end of Act 2, and then the game mandates that you go to the Reacher and the
flying manner as part of the main story and then sends you
to the final boss area.
I think the Reacher and the flying manner being optional is
crazy in that game.
Yeah, maybe the most important story content
that has been optional in a game I have ever played.
Those are huge story beats that, yeah, I think,
because I think the feeling of just kind of like,
because it's essentially that act of
when do you want to wrap this up?
It's up to you, right?
Scrape if you like scraping,
but when you feel like you're done, ready and done,
which a lot of people in some cases,
don't forget the persona problem, right?
Don't forget the feeling of this is where we say farewell,
but we've got five more months to hang out, you know?
So letting somebody be like,
I'm ready to walk through that door being up to you,
I respect that choice for sure
But yeah the the those two you mentioned. It's not even what comes to mind when I think optional
I'm specifically thinking of Simon right I'm thinking of yeah like that if you if you be if you beat Simon
The fucking final boss of expedition 33 should fucking gain a thousand times
final boss of expedition 33 should fucking gain a thousand times.
Just not even the dungeon, just the fight. Yeah. Just give it. Yeah. No, yeah, no.
It would be fine if it was just the fight. You did this. Well, here you go. You can do that now. You can do that with the manual settings,
but there should be, they should put out a fucking difficulty mode.
Don't call it. Okay. there's three difficulties modes, right?
Right now there's casual, expeditioner, and expert, right?
They should put out a fourth difficulty mode that introduces these changes and tweaks the
level scaling to be harder, and the difficulty mode should be called Expedition 60.
With some new costumes, perhaps? Sure, add some new costumes. No, no you can't do
that. But that's the joke. Alright. That'll do. Well dude you could do a bunch of them.
There's the fucking one of the other Expeditions that doesn't have Pictos so it's just Mega
Version that limits you to three Pictos. No Ill converter play it on expedition expedition or difficulty but no lumina
converter mm-hmm mm-hmm okay okay there's one I have but I'm not gonna
anyway we yeah I don't want to get into the details but yeah there's a there is
a really potentially awesome game of the year edition version of that game.
You know, they have talked about it.
They are good.
They are working on updates and more content.
There's no plans for new content.
Okay, no plans at all.
Okay, it is all upgrades and fixing what's there is features
Balance yeah, etc the one game. That's actually allowed to make a game of the decade edition
You're allowed if you want to do an expedition. We will allow it I would expect that the very next patch they put out will be have loadouts mm-hmm that you can say mm-hmm
Which will take that game from a low ten to a high ten? they put out will have loadouts. That you can save.
Which will take that game from a low 10 to a high 10.
Oh my god, dude.
10.1 to 10.9.
I curse those menus.
I curse them.
Yeah.
Loadouts and, I mean, well anyway, the favorite, with a loadout comes a favorite overhaul as well. You know with that whole thing
Alrighty, you don't even need you to give me three loadouts. Give me three
That's it give me three fucking loadouts per character. I'm done. I know that's all I need
I also it would be like the upgrade system,
it's a much very minor, but like minor upgrade
things for weapons, at a certain point,
they're just junk, you know?
Oh yeah.
Which, you know, I mean, I guess you kind of run
into that issue in a lot.
It would be nice to like convert 30 junk things
into one
Big stone or some some such you know it's it's time. It's all just time spent
You know there's only so many slabs in that game, too. There's plenty, but there's only so many
That's the thing is if I if you'd like to this weapon
And then you got that one a little later
And you didn't know that one was coming then you're like ah you committed and you know you put a ring on that weapon
So now you better fucking stick to that build if you don't want to if
unless you're okay with sitting at your weapon level at 32 the whole game yeah I
did I did you just you just settled for it there but it feels you know you know
where I you know when I put my 33rd upgrade into those weapons the 10 feet
in front of Simon yeah okay yeah yeah that's like listen okay I've made my
decision I just need more juice.
That is the place to do it.
All right, everybody.
We'll see you next week.
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.