Castle Super Beast - CSB332: Your Gooner Mind Palace Has No 5 Star Replays
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Thank you.
Yo, yo, yo.
Oh, I still can't see you.
I thought you were going to, I thought when we came in, you were going to switch to it.
But I can't see you at all.
I just see the OBS symbol.
Oh, well, there you go.
Oh, now I can see you.
Hey, buddy.
It's just weird to talk to a disembodied voice that I'm so used to.
There you go.
How you doing?
All right.
Not too bad.
Not too bad.
how's it going uh my my stupid dumb ass shoulder uh is fine is is is fine now okay cool
i took i took my tile and all and i took my i took my advils quick recovery
i'm i'm all better now nice okay um last week um last week i mentioned that i had hurt my shoulder
and you're like how am i how are you sorry you
said, how are you the guy coming in here, like bruises and injuries? No, I know, because you
had recently been in a fight. Yeah, I have been in a fight, yes. And I, and then I went and I took
a look at that fight. Yeah. And I was like, oh my God, how did you make it out of that without
grievous injury? Yeah, no, that was... Oh, that was crazy. Yeah, that was a real fight. So,
over on versus wolves
I fought John
and you know
that was boxing
there's a little bit
of Brazilian jiu-jitsu in there
and then just fucking
fucking hangman's field
final
field punch
violent go
so I have a couple of questions
yeah
because that was a long episode
and I'm like no no no I just want to skim this
to get to the fighty bits
yeah yeah yeah
that first round
why were you guys
just punching each other in the dick
for 10 minutes?
What the fuck is that?
What is why?
In the gym?
Because I thought it was going to be like,
well, we're internet people, so not the face.
In the gym?
But then later the face.
So that wasn't the reason.
Yeah.
Okay, so in the gym.
Yeah, in the gym.
In the gym.
You were just like all tummy.
Right.
So that is called body sparring.
And what body sparring.
is basically when people
are amateur and generally beginning
at sparring and you haven't done it much
you do body sparring as a way of
like yeah you avoid going wild
swinging for the head
a lot of people that are kind of nuts
will just go too hard and potentially do
serious injury to people
or if you show up you don't have
mouth guards or protection or whatever
and body sparring is just to kind of get the fundamentals
of moving around and you know
you can take more to the body
overall than you can like
to the head. I can take way more to the body. Yeah. Yeah.
Then, like, way more. I got it, like, when I was younger, maybe not. But now I got all this
nice, this nice, you know, help. Right. And here's the thing is, like, if you're going in
there with people that are just, you don't know who you're dealing with if you're all
beginners. And if someone just is like, ah, and just goes full swing hard at your head
and you're both beginners, someone can get seriously hurt really badly.
So I hold up my hand for a follow-up question. Yes. But isn't that cool as fuck?
Yes, it is cool.
If you agree, if you agree.
Cool as shit to do.
If you agree to take on this potential risk, then yeah, it's rad as hell.
And you might get fucking, get your bell rung, you know.
However, the legal responsibilities of a trained coach, who coach Lou, we were over at UD Performance,
he is going to be like, I cannot, he cannot legally allow us to get in the ring
without him sitting there.
There are responsibilities that he's like, you know,
like going to take for people that are beginners.
And, you know, if you want to go in with like some headgear afterwards,
which, you know, there was one round of that with John versus command grab James,
you can take that, you can do that or so.
But for the most part, beginners are supposed to body spar.
That's what that was.
Okay, but I thought you were like not a beginner.
Well, no.
When it comes to sparring, I'm absolutely a beginner.
That's the thing.
Okay.
right so confusing but um basically the yeah go ahead go ahead i have a question i've never asked you
in my entire life yep you're a big tall guy and i have never seen you like ag grow up in anger in
any context ever okay like just get unreasonable and like i'm gonna be big and scary when you were
like growing up
how many like
physical scraps
did you get into
on average a year?
I got into many fights with
I mean well there's brothers and cousins
which is just like whatever
but real real fights at school type things
aggressive violent
like attack fist of cuffs
yeah got into fights at school for sure
I'd say towards the
like middle to end
of high school, there were like a pronounced four that, that, like, that stand out.
But it wasn't, it was definitely, you know, there's a lot, a lot of random dumb kid shit
overall.
And then, like, yeah, I'd say between, like, grades 9 and 11, there were like four big ones
I can think of, you know?
Because, like, one of the things that I was thinking of when I was, like, watching this
back and forth is, like, there's a certain aura that people give off that you don't
give off, and I don't think I give off, but I have known people who do, when you talk to them
and you, you, like, argue with them and you back and forth, and you're like, you've never
been fucking punched in the face.
Like, you know that, you know that feeling?
Oh, yeah.
You've never had an argument escalate to the point where you got fucking rocked out of nowhere,
and I feel like that's affecting your, like, view of the world.
Yes, the way you treat people is as someone who has not felt a fucking punch to the face.
Absolutely.
And, like, also the other thing is that, like, people who have never been, like, fucking rocked, like, they, I feel like they think they're going to die.
Mm-hmm.
If someone hits them.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
But you're not.
You're just going to be, like, you're going to make that, ooh, you know, that noise.
Yeah.
And, I mean, it depends on how hard you get hit and what it is, right?
There's, also, there's a difference between, you know, getting rocked with a raw fist versus, like, a glove, you know?
and I'll take the glove well so here's the interesting thing about gloves right
um there's a part in that video where like the coach is explaining he's talking to us and giving us
just like overall boxing information one of those things is like the difference between
m-ma bare-knuckle boxing and then like large like 16 ounce gloves or so is you would
think that like the raw fist would be worse in a lot of ways just because of the idea of it there's
no protection. But the fact that there's no protection means the person swinging at you cannot
swing as hard. And the damage they take themselves also means that there's a, there's a,
there's a difference in how the pain hits and how the, the distribution of impact is. So for a lot,
for all these different reasons, what you end up with is a lot more cuts and like bruises from a
raw, like a smaller glove or like a bra knuckle. But a large padded glove is,
Just diluting all of that into a spread point, but the impact is much harder because you can swing harder, right?
Mm-hmm.
So you can, there's more concussive force.
Breaking your hand is not fun.
Yeah, there's more concussive force coming at you with a large 16-ounce glove compared to bear, knuckle, right?
And so that's kind of the difference.
If someone is on the street, just swinging at you, you know, unless they land a perfect good night, like, swing.
you're not usually going to see someone go to sleep or the temple or something exactly exactly
but a glove our large glove has a higher chance of doing that for sure um and yeah so that what
you kind of saw was just some body sparring at first and you know that's that's what that was
and then afterwards looking back at that and then you know some of the the pre-release kind of like
hype and stuff it was like we can do better we can do it we can go further than that and then
that was a decision to like take it to the field and go for real so you also had uh the middle
part, which was y'all were doing
BJJ. Yeah. Yeah.
And I'm not
super familiar, but apparently John
is more into that
shit. Yes. He's a
Brazilian jiu-jitsu guy.
And that is definitely apparent
watching that video.
Yeah. Yeah. So I have a question
for you on a strategy
perspective. I want to know what you were thinking
when you were trying to out footsie Daigo.
So there were, I watched
that because like, when I
I was, you know, I'm decades
out of date. The last thing I ever did was
I was like 15, 16. Yeah.
But like, I noticed
that you kept trying to grab his leg.
Yeah, probably for a
sweep or like a, you know,
an ankle lock or something like that, right?
Um, but I noticed that
when you would go in, you would
like completely open
up your body and offer your head
yeah to his arms.
Yeah. And get caught like that in a, in a
just a standard choke.
Yeah.
And then you would be, like, you'd be a really big man.
And, like, you would take, like, a really long time to tap.
And it doesn't look like that long on the video.
But as somebody who's been in that choke, that is, you take a, you took a weirdly long time to tap.
And I'm wondering if you had, like, a strategy.
That you were going to, like, offer yourself up and then get in there and then, like, tickle his balls a little bit.
And he would giggle.
and then that would give you the opportunity to get in.
To do something.
Did that just not work out?
So what the Black Belt, the Command Grab James, taught, was essentially, I learned like two.
A little tickle.
Just, oh, no?
I learned two moves, and the second of which I forgot, which was a grounded thing where you kind of, it was a whole flip thing.
And I was like, yeah, I don't remember.
So the only thing I really knew was just a double-neck leg takedown, which,
is a type of thing you could do, and when you're rolling with somebody, is it rolling
Brazilian jiu-jitsu is what you're doing, you're supposed, there's a whole lot of things
you're thinking about, and if you can go like, ah, I caught you off guard, tackle you to the
ground, that's a good way to like get the advantage. But if you're... Unless somebody knows that
you can just... Unless somebody's been doing it for a lifetime and, yeah, they've got their
belts and they're like, oh, well, the counter to this is to then do that, you know?
And it was funny talking about it after the fact
Because like Shane Foxcade
Who's also a big boy
Had it also
He's a big boy
Yeah he also had a role
And like his role lasted way longer than anyone else's
Like he was doing it for like seven minutes
While we all went for like three or three and a half
And the difference was
He kind of like just stayed sturdy
And didn't offer anything
Any limbs or any part
He didn't do much
He kind of just made it like
You're gonna have to roll me around
and open me up because I'm being defensive, you know?
And the thing is, is that ultimately, like, that is, you can do that.
It'll take longer, but the person who knows more will ultimately win.
Because Brazilian jiu-jitsu is one of those things where it doesn't matter if you're bigger or smaller.
Little girls can make big men tap, right?
But there's an important part to, there's an important second part to finish here, which is
when you don't know what you're doing at all, which is me with this thing.
there's a trying stuff out and finding out why it doesn't work teaches you more.
So if I'm going to stick my arm out to grab you behind the head or something
and you're going to go, no, you don't, I'm going to learn from that attempt.
But I'm the kind of person who's like, well, let me go for it to learn what that is.
So this is a question specific to the area that you guys were doing this in.
um what were the rules on like um knuckling the face yeah or finger bending okay so
this it was not an mMA fight that we were having it was not a full on mixed martial
it was just brazilian jujitsu which focuses on grappling holds and things like that i'm
talking about grappling i'm describing knuckling the face not punching okay like just
scraping your knuckles against somebody
behind their ears
up in their neck.
Yeah, I don't think that's okay
according to the rules, generally.
The other, however, is okay.
I think you can absolutely grab someone's arm
and or wrist and twist it.
And at one point,
when he's, when John,
who's a blue belt,
is fighting Karang Gavdames,
who's a black.
And later, and he kind of described,
he's like,
between, he said, John said, he said, I am closer with no experience to him at blue than he is
to black, right? It's exponential. And at one point, James grabs him by the wrist and just does this
and then you just see him fall over and go, oh, and he goes, I'm taking your belt away. And he's
like, don't put that in the video, right? Because it's essentially something that is so beginner
and so easy. But when you're afraid of a billion other high level things, you forget about this one
basic thing so you but you you're allowed to do that but you shouldn't fall for that if you know
what the fuck you're doing and you've been doing this for a while um to go back a second though with
boxing uh essentially um yeah so the the gym that i was at and then like this is this is like
a newer location that the coach kind of moved to but the gym i was at is one that has like a large
class and uh when when i was going essentially the the the place is set up so
that they're training, like, people that go to, like, golden gloves, which is, like, a, you know, exactly.
It's like, like, real champs are going and going as far as possible.
Olympic boxers are coming out of there, too, as well, and stuff, right?
So, a lot of smaller gyms are kind of like, you get in there, you punch around with some people,
you do some mitts and some drills, and then you're like, okay, get in the ring and spar.
Whereas here, it was kind of like, yo, we're not going to waste our time with people.
Like, if you're not serious about this in a way, sparring is meant for people who are trying to,
get to that next level that's kind of the we we got people working here all right that's that's the
kind of impression i got especially with a large class and like not wanting to waste time with
with people that are kind of just coming in and especially if you're if you're just coming in for
like you know cardio or something like that then it's like yeah we want people that are they're
looking for people that are going to they're trying to compete or so and so with that it was
always something that was like sparring was i i'd love to get to that point but i'm not i'm not
there i'm the person that's there doing the drills doing the mitts kind of working the bags
essentially hitting the lab
you know and there would be
like you do like little drills outside
or you and the other person would like you do like a light
sort of spa outside or so but as far
as getting in the ring experience and going for it
I had not done that the only time I had done it in the past was
when I went to ComboCon and
HDM executioner
had it's a gym and he's like yo get in the ring let's do it
you know but overall that was my
that's the lopsided thing is like while I've been at
boxing classes and messing around and
and having fun with that and doing drills for years.
Full-on sparring experience was not something I had.
So you said the word lopsided,
which actually brings me to my next question,
which is like, it's been all,
it's the question I've been thinking of over and over,
and I wasn't going to ask it until the fight was over.
What is the weight differential between you two guys?
I don't know how much he weighs, but are you,
Are you for real with that?
I don't know how much he weighs.
But it's probably a decent one.
Yeah, it's probably big.
You know, I would imagine I have anywhere between 40 pounds or so on him and, you know.
I'm under the assumption.
I know you're taller.
I know you're significantly taller.
And I was under the assumption that you weighed proportionally more.
because you're much taller, right?
Mm-hmm.
Which means I have to give all the kudos in the world to John
because you as the bigger, stronger opponent risk, like, all pride
and can, like, win none back because if you did win,
it would be, like, beating up children because of a small person.
Well, that's not how size works.
Not as much as if you beat up me, because how much pride could you feel in that?
But that's not how to...
size works and that's not in
this case as well with like
sparring when you're
when you're going into like a
match where you're effectively like
we're not go there's no knockouts
here per se it's like
we're moving we're throwing punches
we're landing hits but
like at no point
am I attempting to like
rob his conscience
so there is a factor
that's more about like how many
hits your landing and how
cleanly you're landing them than it is about how hard you're landing that hit and whether or not
the person is completely shut out as a result of it right um that goes into how we handle that
i don't understand what you're saying what i'm saying is is that in that last fight we weren't
swinging at a hundred percent because that's stupid it's stupid it's stupid it's a fight woolly
the man fall down.
Okay.
Don't you got any showmanship?
The showmanship was certainly
getting out there and going for it
as best as we could
and also going like, all right,
like the reason
why coach wants people body sparring
in the ring, the reason why
people are generally doing this
with head gear and such, is because
again, when you don't know what you're doing
and you're swinging your fist out there
like an idiot at full.
fucking uh uh you know at and going zero to a hundred those are the people that like get really hurt
are really dumb or really ignorant and are not taking it responsibly right like there's something
like when it comes to boxing and trying to do it with you know like all bits aside like
you're a you're a fucking dumb ass if you go out there and do that like that's that's bullshit and
furthermore that would if i if i were to go out there and do that and actually like just be that
the person that people in the gyms are making fun of
that are making YouTube video compilations of acting like an asshole
like I would be so it would be so disrespectful to like
that coach and that gym and everybody involved in
you know what I mean?
It would be crazy.
It would no one can tell you some stuff.
Yeah, okay, okay.
All right, all right, all right, sure.
It would be, it would be crazy like actually to go out there
and be that asshole and like, I don't know if I'd get uninvited.
How are you an asshole if it's a if it's a mutually agreed bout
in a field. Right. Right. Okay.
Like, no, no, hold on. If you
showed up and John's like, let's spar,
and you're like, okay, and you fucking try and knock
its head off, that's different.
That's, that's ridiculous.
That's totally insane.
But like, I have to tell you,
coming from a place that, like, when I was in high
school and I, my fucking martial
arts class got invaded by adults
in their 40s, and my
sense I was like, yeah, just
be better and fight them. And, like,
adult man was, like, throwing
120 pound 5 foot guy
me over the fucking wall
with no gloves
and like
just getting wrong I'm like yeah okay
you get your fucking
you just handle it
okay well
um yeah
we decided to
I treat it like boxing
and you know
get in there and spar
head and body and
um not try to do permanent
damage, ultimately. There was blood
drawn, you know.
Did you, did you consider blading at any
point?
If we're, if we're gonna, if we're gonna, if we're gonna,
like, tone it down for
the show, could you, could you have considered
like, I mean, I don't know.
Like, walking out on fake crutches.
I don't know if, like, I don't know if you want
real answers or bit, but
like, I, there's
no bit here.
Okay. Well, in any case,
um yeah ultimately well you know once you're once you're sparring and you're you're you know
essentially like moving and hitting and landing and you know points are are a factor or so there's
also no ring certainly so you're kind of just like in this wild open space oh he's fast
no ring mm-hmm like like once i saw that you guys were in open field i'm like well you're
the larger opponent with longer arms a ring would do you a lot of good actually in that
certainly um yeah but in any case you know the there was already a level of like um
there was already a level of like okay if we're gonna go back for that final round and uh the the
most responsible way to do it would be to like you know get back into the the ring and get the
headgear and go for it that way that was not possible within the recording schedule time we had so
we made do with the field and i thought that that
That was cool in the end.
Is that the field near Verdun?
It's out there, yeah.
Okay, I actually grew up next to that field.
That's super weird.
Yeah, there's a nice view of the city from out there.
Because I saw you guys out there.
I used to go to the park near there when I was a little baby.
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
But, yeah, that's, that's, in the end, and in the end, like I said, you know, there was, there was some blood drawn, but that was not the intent, certainly.
But ultimately, we did want to, like, go for it.
And yeah, and there's a feeling to have certainly as well where like, even if you're not going at a hundred percent of a swing, there are moments where you are moving in the wrong direction and you are moving into something, right?
Yes, exactly.
So the difference between hitting a parked car versus hitting a car in oncoming traffic, the oncoming traffic version of that happens while you're sparring anyway, right?
Which is why you still need to put a mouthpiece in, which is why you still need to be careful and why you still need to be aware that.
that, like, you can actually get knocked out, you know,
if you're moving into something coming at you the opposite way.
but um but yeah overall there's a there's a there's a there's a there's a there's also like um
the main thing that like you get better at too is like that kind of footsy skill of like reacting
to what's coming at you and like moving quickly and getting your counterpunch in or like you know
feeling out what they're doing and looking at their shoulder and stuff there's a lot of there's a lot
of that you're kind of like that's getting in there that's it's not just a big dumb fucking
uh Walmart fight but like there's parts of that where um
you can focus on
and the technical
and improve by
kind of sparring like this, I guess, you know?
I do have a
non-blood sport-related
follow-up question, which is
since you guys did
like a boxing style first round
and an MMA, sorry, a BJJ
style second round, did you ever
consider doing a
like open gloves
MMA thing for the third round?
For it's a mixture of both styles.
That's what I thought that third round was going to be.
There was a thought for a second about that.
But the reality of the situation is,
whereas John and I both have some boxing experience,
I have zero Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu experience,
like literally none.
It was just a funzies thing added on to it, right?
Because Command Grab James, who is the BJJ guy,
was here and was like,
yo, come to my gym, let's have some fun.
And it was like, okay, yeah, let's do a thing out of that.
But ultimately, the challenge I gave John months ago
was to go check out a boxing class.
And he had...
Yeah, and that's how this just escalated infinitely.
Well, he took to it and continued going
like multiple times a week, you know, with goals in mind.
And, but like me, I'm like, I'm like,
I didn't have that necessarily.
interest to go become a Brazilian jiu-jitsu like roller, you know, or a player. Um, so that wouldn't
have that, that was, yeah, the, the BJJ side of things is honestly just me flailing like a fish
going like, all right, how fast can you tap me out if I'm doing some, some random shit? I think,
Wully, that your sense of fair play is a bit overactive and that the, the way you structured
these fights put you at an inherent disadvantage. Uh, yeah, I mean, I think I, I get that.
but part of the fun was saying, yeah, fuck it, let's go.
You know, I think from the jump, the moment it was like,
yo, I've been sparring and practicing and going hard, let's do this.
And I was like, oh, I haven't been doing anything.
And I have no sparring experience, but boxing is cool.
Fuck it.
Let's go for it.
You know, and I got in there and I was like, yeah, let me just see what this is like,
you know, but I'm absolutely that was what it was.
And I had no illusions about getting in there and thinking like, oh, yeah, my reach
and all that are going to make up for it.
I'm like, no, I've got no cardio.
I've got no gas.
I'm not an athlete.
Are you frozen?
Uh-oh.
Oh, I am.
Oh, I might be.
Hold on a second.
Be r.
Hello?
Hey, man.
Can you hear me?
Oh, there you are.
You're back.
Okay.
Weird.
Yeah, I could hear you.
No problem.
And I, am I still for...
No, no, you're back, you're back.
There we are. Okay.
Yes.
So, no, no, make no mistake.
Like, the moment that that was thrown down in it, and, you know, John was like,
yo, I've been boxing and sparring a whole bunch and I'm getting into it.
And also, he's a, he's a taekondo black belt as well and has fought, like, in competition
for that before he became a Brazilian jiu-jitsu blue belt and has, like, you know, a lifetime
of, like, fighting experience.
And it was like, I was kind of like, oh, yeah, no, I have none of that.
I have terrible cardio.
I'm out of shape and don't know what I'm doing.
But this is, I like, I think this is cool.
So let me just throw me.
Yeah.
So let me just throw myself into this and see what happens.
But I know for sure that I'm not going in like, yeah, I know that for sure I'm not going
in necessarily at anything besides a size advantage.
But perhaps you're overestimating what size advantage means in the grand scheme of life in the world.
No, I'm not.
Trust me, I'm not.
Okay, well.
Woolly, look, look at the camera.
I have a tiny man on it.
Trust me.
But the part that it seemed, because everyone I've ever scrapped with in my entire life was like a foot taller than me.
But if there are also people that are scrappers and or if there is a, if there's a fight where you're trying to end the person versus something where it's more of a sport and or something like Jiu-Jitsu where small people regularly tap out larger people because the nature of it is limbs and.
and weight transfer and a whole bunch of other technical shit going on.
It's not just this, you know, David and Goliath situation, you know, every time.
And there's more to it just being like, you're bigger, you're heavier, therefore you should always win, you know?
No, no.
What I'm saying is you're bigger and heavier, therefore you should have organized these bouts.
To be in my favor.
No, no, not in your favor, but it'd be like it would allow your natural advantage to work.
because in an open field, John can and did consistently back away from your longer reach,
which he wouldn't have been able to do if he was in a ring, because then you could have crowded him
and then get real close and give him a hug.
Yeah.
And in the body sparring match, actually, I did walk him down to the corner a couple times and, like,
I kind of tried to lock him in there.
And I was like, ooh, I can use that to my advantage while trying to get, like, take one and give one for sure.
But no, the thought about, like, how to organize it and set that up.
and stuff wasn't really there wasn't much put into that either i just kind of knew i'm like yeah i i
have this much gas in my tank uh it's significantly lower you know and i have um this much
experience as well and i'm just going to go in there and have fun you know i'm going to go have fun
that's kind of what it was and i wasn't really putting all that there for you know uh uh
forward because i kind of just wanted to enjoy the exchange you know um
which I felt like I did.
That being said, you know, this is the literal definition of Got Some Good Hits in, though, right?
Yeah, absolutely.
You know, got some good hits in there, took some as well.
And I kind of was interesting watching back on it and kind of seeing like, oh, I have some tendencies.
You know, I have some things where I'm like, oh, one thing I kept, like, a couple tendencies were like, you know, sidestepping and like going for a hook, you know.
And then a couple times I'd go for a sidestep to set something up.
and it worked about half the time or so.
Dropping my arms.
I gave you a massive prop.
You did not do a weird little spin.
I did not do a weird little spin.
You did not do a weird little spin.
And I mean, again, and this is like, you know,
meanwhile, Command Grab James was doing literal fucking Mashiba, like flickers, you know,
crazy shit.
But no, I did.
I did not slip at any point with that either because I'm also like just being like,
don't embarrass the fuck yourself or the gym or anything.
of those places, just keep it basic.
Don't try to do anything crazy
and stupid and fucking fall out
and have your balls out, you know?
So, like, this,
there was like a, there was like multiple
months of like abject confusion
from me that I like, I
guess this is just the way my brain works.
I could, like, I was, I was
talking a page about this. I don't know what
Willie's doing. He's scheduling a fight
right before
the birth of his child. What if
he like breaks his arm?
or gets like a serious concussion like wouldn't that be like really like a bad time for that it would
and that would be why sparring was generally the approach we took as opposed to booking a real fight
wasn't for the birth of your child it wouldn't have been sparring it would have been like
bare knuckle dukes in in a pit i mean realistically regardless of kid i don't know that as somebody
who talks for a living i had ever
want to fully go down the road of taking a lot of head blows for long term?
Well, ask the football players and various punchy retired boxers how they feel.
Yeah, so there we go, right?
Like, again, bitter reality, right?
If I love, I love boxing and I think it's really cool, but I also don't know that it would
be great for me long term to walk into a situation where I'm getting hit up in the head
constantly. And I don't think that, uh, uh, you know, you would necessarily see the effects right
away. But over time, you, you would, you know, that's real, man. Um, you know, and, uh, not to
mention, of course, that like, the time it takes to dedicate to get that good and to take it to
that level is also like, okay, well, goodbye YouTube. Oh, but it's way more fun if you guys are just
total amateurs and you just do new training whatsoever. Yeah, yeah. Well, that, you know,
I mean, there's, there's, there's, there's drills, you know, there's, there's, there's,
There's, there's mitt work, there's bags, there's shadowboxing.
But at the end of the day, like, you know, real, real sparring against somebody is like, it's completely different from all the above.
Well, Lee, you're a long time friend of mine, and I love you.
And I want to tell you that I support you in any fight that you take.
But I also want to tell you that I respect you enough to let you die in the ring.
Good. Good.
Okay.
Don't, no towels thrown.
No. No, you got in there and you knew what you were doing.
Yes.
And I would never steal that from you.
100%. I'm glad to hear it. Thank you. Thank you.
I would also like to say, I don't plan on fighting anybody in the future, but if I do fight someone and lose, I will die in the ring.
Okay.
Okay. I will take that. I will take that into account.
and if I need to
the towel
will actually be a pillow
to just make sure
that your final resting
places here.
If we haven't gone
12 rounds minimum
and I'm on the floor
just piss on me
and throw me in a ditch
it's what I would have wanted.
Yep, perfect, perfect.
Oh man.
And I feel like
you're the only person
I know in my life
that knows
I'm telling you the truth
just just yeah you're the only person i've known for long enough and i heard me say the dumbest things
of the world that if i tell you if i get into a fight of some kind of spectacle
pull all the rules off and let them break my legs yep i will i will encourage the ragdalling
of your of your corpse afterwards thank you there we go yep no 100% um
it'd be so cool though
It would be. It would be so cool.
Because, like, I'll be in the hospital, and I'll be like, you should see the other guy, and the therapy dog will be on my lap.
Man, those views would go crazy.
This therapy dog.
Yeah, yeah. No, there is a, there is a, obviously it goes without saying, but there's a whole lot you learn about yourself in the process of getting physical and pushing.
it um and uh it's it's like when i'm seeing i i've been bringing him up but command grab
james and like the seeing like how he moved and like how he did that that head uh that's a good
neck name yeah yeah pretty solid um how he how he did that that headgear match and everything i
kind of was like oh if we just stopped and put out like if we just had this body sparring footage
after building up all of this
like could you need it more
you needed more could you imagine the wet fart
of just like all right here you go
I think going to the the grappling
you know is a really good follow up to that
because
you know punching and kicking and
you know pads and whatnot I mean your neck
getting choked out or your elbow being bent
that sucks
oh yeah yeah yeah and it sucks ass
and every time I got Tass
or multiple of us got tapped with a kimora it's called a move where you're just swinging the arm back and um the and he would see that and go ah i can't look i can't look and he would get really really squeamish and we're like oh did you like feel that one time really badly and he went no i did it to someone and they refused to tap and the and the difference between like tapping and bringing and
breaking is an inch.
That is respect.
And he was so squeamish after doing that once to somebody who didn't tap that he's like,
I hate this move.
I can't look.
I can't deal.
You know?
Because like once you feel doing that to somebody, yeah.
Yeah.
Then you get to walk around the rest of the day with a hard on.
Or you never unfeel it or the memory never goes away.
It's go time.
I just damaged a person.
All right.
You know, like, he was getting so, like, squeamish about it because he's like, I've done that to people and it's fucking broken and he hates it because that's not what you want to do.
And you'll notice, there's a thing here, you'll notice, like, people who are really, really good at fighting and confident in that are the nicest, kindest souls.
Oh, yeah, they're very sweet.
With nothing to prove.
they have they walk around with like feather weight on their chests because they're just like
yeah we're just like we're chill everything's chill if anything's as steps out of control it's not
because i'm in control everything's fine you know other people getting heated and shoving and button
and getting barking loud and whatever because they have no control over their situation or what's
happening and they don't know what's going to happen so that fear is coming out as anger so that they
don't lose any, any fucking, uh, uh, you know, ball points. But when you are absolutely confident,
you can just smile and chill and have no malice whatsoever in all of these situations. And
that's, that's, that's how he is, you know? So yeah, I can, he's the kind of person who's like,
with a smile on his face, rolling people around, flipping him over and being like,
woo, hey, nice hands. Let's go. And like, he sounds like he's having fun while absolutely
massacring and mawling people. You know, playing put put putt with a four-year-old.
old you're like oh good shot buddy that's it that's it but you're hurting but you're hurting each other
you know yeah um yeah i mean you you can't see it up close but like his ears are the flattest
cauliflowers you've ever seen i love it like it's that sign of like oh that the ears tell you
the ears tell you everything you need to know this is this is like slightly tangential do you know
that in the fit the ticot fitness community there is a trend that the gen zs are doing
where they have their buddies drop weights on their ears.
Boy, so that's not new.
To fake having calling flower ears.
So that's not new.
That's been pre-Tic-Tac.
That's a- it's new to me.
That is a, yes, that is a, a, a MMA gym, bro move for, or just, that's not even that.
You can all, just rolling it on the, on the mat, right?
Doing a lot, a lot of ear rolling on the mat to like falsely get that ear.
It's, I mean, listen, have you ever seen Synthol?
Do you know what Synthol is?
If you look up Synthol, people are willing to do that to their bodies, so the surprise, there's no surprise behind people forcing cauliflower ear in mind.
Because if you just, there's motherfuckers that want big muscles so badly that they'll inject themselves with liquid shit to make their arm look like a balloon.
And it's horrendous.
You know what?
Good for them.
Fuck it.
It's illness.
To have a B deflate them.
It's fucking illness, you know?
You're like, people are willing to do that.
So of course they're will.
Don't yuck their yum, woolly.
Oh, yeah.
Man.
They want to be mentally ill and deform their muscles.
Oh, fuck.
And then it melts or pops, and then all the worst things happen.
And then it's cool as shit.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
So, anyway, um, I got into a,
fight and you can go check
that out if you'd like, if you want to go see
me getting punched. So you did get popped a couple good times
I saw. John got you a couple
like in the kisser.
Did you suffer any bruises from that at all?
No. He got me more to the body.
Couple to the head, more
of the body. I think it's a little hard to tell
with the body because you guys were wearing
like bluntly like you guys were wearing clothes.
Yeah. It's a little more
difficult to tell. So the amount of headshots
we got on each other was
closer to even but he got
way more to the body on me and I kind of was like walking through them at first and then I was
like he got one where I was like oh okay no stop walking through these you know there's the one
where I you see me go ooh right I get a wharf out and then you see me drop my hands you're right
and then you know and then there's another one there's a couple of those where there's
hit reactions where I go oh the gloves come down you know and like yeah gloves coming down like
like there's there's the bits where you're kind of like you can you can uh your arms are tired
you know so i'm just like okay i'm defending my head more than anything and i'll i'll i'll be willing
to tank some to the body until you're not willing to you know uh but no i was fine um by basically
about an hour afterwards i was like okay i felt uh like a little bit of ringing you know um and
uh pop to tylon all and then um by that night it was all good uh he
was feeling it
way more, surprisingly.
You know what that means?
That means you won.
The next day
his head and his arm, he was talking
about how he was still kind of feeling
some of that. And I was like, oh, shit, okay.
That means you won.
100%.
100%.
You conclusively won.
It's, it's,
there's, there's no life bars.
Damage received versus damage given.
That's, that's, come on.
There were no life bars on screen.
If you kept going, then you would have
Absolutely, you stopped the fight too soon
If we kept going, I would have been a sweating, heaving mess
Because I was like gasping for air
Use the sweat
Oh man, cardio is rough
Boy
Anyways
On a timeout
Guy with less life
They lose
That's just like that is
Come on, that's easy
The last 10 seconds are so
Like, my hair falls down, and you can see me in burnout.
That's...
That's weird.
Oh, fuck.
What you're supposed to do after the fight is when you ask somebody, how you doing?
Never felt better.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I feel...
I should see the other guy.
Like, oh, like, what?
It's like, oh, you know, I feel I should go work out more today.
Oh, man.
Gasping, gasping.
I pushed...
Initially, the thought was three rounds, and then I was having so much...
one I said let's do four then I said fuck it let's do more let's keep going you know
but yeah um the the ability to uh build that up is the most important thing I would say
and it's the and I felt myself having fun but also like mad at my body for reaching its
limit it was such a it was a dumb anime moment but it really was like damn it I'm starting
to fucking go here we're starting to get warmed up and I can't move my legs or arms
you know what you can do to help with that yeah just start pissing your pants oh yeah there we go
is that the adrenaline from the embarrassment is going to really just help you push through oh man
yeah I wonder what the ref has to say about that I wonder well there was no ref right right true
true uh there is an adrenaline dump by the way yeah command grab told us about that but like there
is a definite like like about 30 seconds in like armor where you're you don't feel
much you don't feel anything really you know because you're just your brain's on and then it's
going to wear it's going to go down which also you feel when you're getting tattooing you would
have wanted to have won by that point yes you would want in the in the ideal world right but hey you know
this is not uh fucking takamura or tyson for that matter where the where the impact the strength
no strength stat strength that doesn't mean doesn't mean much in a in a in a hit counting fight right
so
anyways
that was that was that
did you go through
the trouble of like
counting all
every single hit
overall to put it
no no no
I mean I
by the end of the
the five rounds
I knew
he touched me
way than more
than I touched him
and I was like
yeah that's that's that
you know
ultimately
it was
it was one where
he was like
he was kind of like
it doesn't even matter
or so
but I'm like
yeah no
but you know
you got me
like you can
I can feel
the
the
the tally
if there were judges. So we have
a question from the audience from one
peach saliva asking
when you were getting hit and feeling
pain, did you goon during the fight
to distract yourself? Oh man,
that is the good tech, isn't it?
Unfortunately, I am not
Hisoka, so I
did not, you know, like as much as I
love the idea of the combat
sexual,
it just, it wasn't working
in this particular one. I was a little too
locked in there
but you know
like
it might have happened
subconsciously
I might have not
been paying attention
I don't know
you know
oh god
and and for the record
did you check
for the record
the gooning
the gooning tech
the tattoo
gooting tech
my
my impression is that
under my understanding
is that
gooning implies
like you have to
actively do it
oh yeah yeah yeah
gooning requires like
you didn't make many uh you didn't make many
clarifications so it was left to everybody's imagination
okay okay because yeah
my impression is that gooning requires like
actual physical activity to be occurring
as opposed to just like
to you know
mind traveling mine palace
you know
depends on where your kegles are at
hmm hmm okay
because yeah I I if you can
if
the definition of the modern goon to me has come to be just just edging that
edging it edging it for hours just nonstop right so i don't know if you know this
but in terms of uh follow-ups on the storyline here on c sb called taut don't tattoo me i'll
come we had someone in this audience decide to give
it a shot themselves.
And how did that go?
Not effective.
Okay.
They didn't find it particularly effective.
Though what was really funny is they posted about it on the subreddit and didn't get any
traction and it immediately fell off the front page, but me and Page saw it and recognize
the name.
And the next time they came into my stream was like, you!
I saw you gooning during your tattoo.
They were very embarrassed.
Yeah.
Again, if just going into your mind palace counts as gooting, that I suppose.
But, you know, if otherwise you're just hitting, you're just meditating your way out,
then I don't know what to call that.
Sorry to hear that didn't work for you, buddy.
You know, maybe your Rolodex sucks.
Maybe the replays were not that great.
Wow, that's quite a call-out.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
I'm sorry if you don't have any five-star replays ready to go.
That person's husband is listening to this right now, by the way.
You know, if your best material just didn't, isn't going to cut it.
I don't know what to do it.
You know, damn, sucks to suck.
anyway
um
what's uh
what's going on
you had fun buddy
yeah yeah definitely
had a lot of fun
loved it loved it
um what's going on
let's let's switch over
because I got a couple things
but uh
yeah well let's keep rolling with you
because we're on the
we're on the woolly show right now
what's going on man
okay so
besides fighting
uh there was a couple
besides sparring
sparring
and then getting flopped around
like a fish
there was a couple
of Fantasia movies
that I wanted to catch
that's going on right now
and that's the
Montreal Film Festival
that comes every year
and I've talked about it
a couple times
and shoutouts to them
got the cool little
Fantasia shirt going
is cool
nice
yeah
so this year
one of the ones
they had was
all you need is kill
which is the original story that Edge of Tomorrow is based on, exactly, right?
But this is finally animating the source material.
Oh, they made an anime movie about the Tom Cruise movie?
So it's such a confusing series of adaptations.
It sure is, isn't it?
Okay, because it really should have been called Live, I Repeat.
Like, it should have been called that, right?
Let's be real.
I kind of love the name
All You Need is Kill
That's great too
But like compared to Edge of Tomorrow
Right
Oh terrible
Got off
Just got awful
Edge of Tomorrow
I'm like
Is that the one where like
The world
Has a big
Title Wave?
Is that the one where Robert
Patterson gets hit by 9-11?
Yeah like is that
Is that where the world
Just has a big old natural disaster
Because that's what it sounds like
You know
Anyway
So the light novel
Um
was one thing
and I checked that out back in the day
I mean honestly like years ago
I think I talked about it on Friendcast
right and then there was a manga adaptation
of that light novel
and then there was
the Tom Cruise
Edge of Tomorrow adaptation
and now we're going back
to the light novel
and turning that into an anime
and it was Studio 4C
who animated that
and they're the folks
who did
kid story
and detective story
in the
animatrix
really,
really talented
studio,
tech on kid
crete
and the golden
age arc of
berserk,
Spragann,
et cetera,
you know,
very,
very cool.
And surprisingly,
going into this,
going,
all right,
let's see how
the source material
holds up
in animated form
all these years
later,
they changed that
shit again.
And,
yeah and they made a huge narrative swerve on what is happening because are you familiar with
the besides you know okay you know the tom cruise movie i've only seen the tom cruise the edge of
tomorrow okay so there's there's details that change between the source material and and that
of course but for the there's large strokes that are mostly the same they adapted it so that
it's following Rita, the girl as the main character, not Tom Cruise.
Okay.
They change the main character.
Like when she's doing it?
You're following her story.
And it basically makes it like, it's the rhythm is, it follows the beats.
But then you end up meeting like the weaker person instead of like the weak guy meeting
the stronger girl, so to speak.
And this version is the best version of all of them.
It fucking rules.
It works really well.
When you say you're following the girl, do you mean like through repeats or she just has one narratively sequential story?
Okay.
So in the Tom Cruise movie and then, of course, in the original, you're following the guy who is a soldier who's joining up.
He's not a soldier, rather.
He's like one of the random grunts.
And then you're following his recent.
spawns as he finds himself stuck in the loop and then eventually you meet Rita who's like a
badass fighter at that point with her armor her red armor going all in and she's already
well advanced and she's on her own path and then the two of them working together have to make
it through and then overcome the the whole time loop problem right of the of the invaders this story
the movie starts on her point of view and stays on her
And she's the main character of the film.
Okay.
And we're following her story through the whole movie, and he ends up being the supporting character.
So this is like New Game Plus read aside, essentially.
Okay.
But the events...
But it's a sequential narrative.
No, no, no, no.
That's the thing.
The events are occurring differently from the source material as well with her in the main character spot.
and it works so well it's really good
like I was at first I was like why are you changing it
you know after all this time
we're not adapting it as I said no no no they didn't
they they this actually it really worked out
it gives a bunch of extra perspective to things
that like I felt were undeveloped in the source material
something in particular that ends up being really
cool here is like
You know, you get the, a big part of what's awesome about the, all you need is kill and Edge of Tomorrow and such is like the montage of getting stronger and learning how to fight from being somebody that doesn't know what they're doing.
And watching her kind of like spec all that, you know, experience into memorizing footseys and, you know, details of how to fight.
But this guy who's the weaker supporting kind of dude is spending his loops like specking into.
int and knowledge and tech and advancing
you know their their their their shit and like
the combination of the two ends up working really well
and complimenting each other in a really cool way you know
there's aspects of their personalities as well that are
expanded upon when you get their backstories that um like
their personalities like you know i i don't want to go too far into
because this is a brand new telling of the story so i don't want to like you know
spoil uh too many of the details but
they've made them really complimenting characters with each other and um the source material has
like this thing where you know a relationship feeling kind of sorts to form towards the end
but it definitely always felt like it's a bit sudden but it oh maybe you know but it was a bit
loose and odd and here it it gives you a bit more to chew on with that um and something about
the original as well when the tom cruise movie got rid of it but the all you need is kill
original movie always had this thing where
there's an invading alien force that's
like a protas of sorts
that's just not in the situation
that sends in
the stuff you see them fighting
they're not actually
the things that are fighting on earth that the
spinning you know
a blade enemies are
actually a detachment
of like self
controlling self-perpetuating
drones essentially
for like a smaller
intelligent alien force that wants to invade
and cutting and they're
not in the picture and it actually makes
it's just tighter, it's a tighter story
to not have this other force that doesn't
really do much in the end
and doesn't really lead to much either
and
one final bit is
that there's a
the end of the original story
was
uh
I don't yeah if anyone
hasn't rest seen it or so like
There's some twists that happened and stuff that plays out where it's like,
that's cool, but they made it a smarter twist is the best way I can describe it.
They took what was there, and they made what happened here.
Like, it's smarter and it feels better.
So overall, the characters feel like they're just better fleshed out, better developed.
And it's, yeah, it's the best adaptation of this story so far.
Also, the art style is, like, really, like, having fun and, like, exaggerating proportions
and characters and stuff
in a way that is like
unusual
and I really like it, you know?
If you go check out the
all you need is kill
I guess 2025
anime trailer you'll see what I'm talking about
there's like kind of goofy
stretched out faces and stuff
and you know
and Studio 4C is willing to do that
like if you see some of the
previous stuff they've animated
like Tekon Kincrete for example
so great job to them with this
like it's a fun
well done
adaptation after all this time and
you know for the changes they make
they're for the better I think this is this is
my favorite version of this story
now that I've seen it like four times
um
okay
can't wait for the fifth adaptation
yeah yeah I mean to be fair
like it was always there was always a feeling of like
oh the original was always just sitting there
and never got anything you know
you went you went from light novel
to obscure small
manga to Tom Cruise
you know so
so yeah
anyway beyond that
there was another film
called Angels Egg
oh I know Angel's Egg
yeah have you seen it
I've seen bits and pieces
okay Angel's egg I've seen just enough of it
to understand how it relates to the Rings
City DLC and Dark Souls 3
Angels Egg is
a lot
directed by Mamoru Oshi of Ghost in the Shell fame and art done by Yoshitaka Amano of fucking
Final Fantasy fame.
You can really tell with all the wispiness.
It's gorgeous.
It's one of the most beautiful things.
And yep, wispy, blonde characters with their hair in the wind, walking around painterly
souls ask
Gothic architecture
shadowy
dark and brooding
it's
difficult
because
what's it about
well
Mamaru Oshi
doesn't really want
you to know
it's
beautiful
and it's this
and it's a movie
that like
it's extremely
light on dialogue
it's extraordinarily obtuse
and there's moments where
analogies to biblical
Noah's Ark
and come into play heavily
there's a couple of signs of like things
like you know
angels there's you see like the
bones of an angel
with the titular you know so to speak angel
you see fishermen
that are trying to catch
an army of fishermen that can't are catching fish that don't exist they they're failing but
they're fishing after shadows um and what i can say is that uh this movie kind of came out and
memory oh she had a hard time with his career afterwards because it was so obtuse that people
didn't know what to do with it and it does now watching it back it does feel like an art book
committed to film um and for better and for worse you feel where umano and osi are like okay we love
gothic architecture we like pretty girls uh we like cool young lads with like weapons on their
shoulders and capes and we're going to show these things and that's kind of what we're going to
show um and don't worry too much about the rest of it in a way there's
cool imagery you can interpret as the best you can what you're looking at but um everyone was left
scratching their heads going i'm not sure what happened and there's parts of it that slow the
fuck down and get really like like you're you're tilting your head sideways trying to you're
like what are we doing here and not in a lynchian way but in a way where like um like lynch will
show you a lot of things but like you won't know what those things are or why they're happening
there won't be things.
There'll just be like a lack of things, you know?
There's a heavy, like, Ava elevator style scene.
It felt like a minute long, like single frame shot, you know, at one point.
I think by the numbers, they said that this movie had like 33% of the shots that an average animated feature does.
So, like, it's way less.
But there's these big painterly things you're kind of looking at.
Gorgeous, but you just kind of have to go into it going like, I'm not going to understand shit.
And to some degree, there's an effect that doesn't work in its favor, which is, I was describing an episode of Game of Thrones that happens in the late seasons, right?
When the horse starts to get into the child's drawing phase of Game of Thrones, where you're following the group that is going beyond the wall, you know, with the wildlings and such and John Snow.
and they don't really have any other group to cut to for the whole episode
so they just have moments and scenes of characters doing stuff
then the camera pans up and then establishing shot
and then right back down to the same group and you're like oh no
oh no we're out of stuff right that's a little awkward suicide squad
the original movie exact same problem they walk they have a couple quips camera pans
away pan back to the group we're still here we do another quip we do another scene
pan away, pan back to the group
we're still here. Yeah, there's no B-plot in that fucking movie.
And you feel that in films
when they're edited that way, and it feels bad.
It feels very bad because it slows
down the time, and it makes
it feel like, oh, we don't have anything else
to teach you or to say, or
to explain right now. So,
we're just going to watch the character
walk in and do a scene, and then walk out
of the scene, and then the next scene with that
character will begin. And, unfortunately,
it looks really pretty in this movie,
right? And so, this
is a, it looks really pretty, but this is, it, it's an, it does feel like an amateur move when, like, the time to move away from a subject or, or establishing a thing about a character into something else or in a different location, whatever the case is, you know, usually, you know, you space things out so that you can build up an idea of the whole pieces and then you let those dominoes all fall and then they clash together and then you get to your third act.
And here there was not enough pieces moving because there's one main character who was by herself and didn't say anything.
So it was her running around with her egg for...
What's in the egg?
We don't know.
But that carried on for the first, I'd say, 40% or so.
And then eventually there's another character who joins and they kind of move together.
But because they're not talking and because there's, you know, you're kind of just moving through.
this environment, which is beautiful, but it does suffer from this problem, right?
So we walked out of there going, I don't know what the fuck I just watched.
It was gorgeous, but holy shit.
And, you know, some folks were starting to fall asleep, and I don't blame them, because
it does get, it does drag, you know?
You watched like the Genesis for the entire storytelling perspective of the From
Software Catalog?
I can, I can see that.
I can see Berserk as well, being.
part of that genesis
that makes more sense in a way
especially when it comes to the characters
and the doing of things
you know
because yeah
like an art book showing you beautiful scenes
and characters moving through them
is what gets Amano
fucking hard and
and Oshi loves these beautiful
like moments as well
but I had to go back and read
about what this movie was and what happened
and like I learned
how we got here and why the obtuseness is
as bad as it is.
Because essentially this was supposed
to be a Lupe the third movie and...
Okay, that's what?
That's not what I thought you were going to say.
And then that didn't happen.
And Amano was slated to work on that
with O'Shee back then.
And when that didn't happen,
the angel's egg idea and the wanting to...
And there's a whole like Noah's arc
like theme to this.
He wanted to revisit that.
So he was planning to make an original
also action comedy.
And
then he saw Amato
his artwork of like all that gothic imagery and went, no, I'm going to make it a more serious
Gothic tale. And then a person, a script writer that he was working with wrote up his full
detailed script and a whole story about it. And then he threw that version out in favor of one
with all the words gone, basically. And there's a couple scenes where things happen. And he decided
to go back and change them to make them harder to understand on purpose. I feel like Yoshitaka
Amano is the single most prominent artist
ever that has had the least amount of his art
actually hit the page
Yeah, the translation
And so when we talk about something that's like
Amano did this and OSHA did this
It's like, what do you got? I don't know.
I don't know what it is pretty.
And other, like, and I mean, but people love it so much
that they're like, I'm going to strive to try to translate this
into another medium, I won't capture it at even 50%, but we'll do our best, you know.
But in this case, I mean, I feel like the environments especially feel like his final work,
you know, like it feels like they really did realize a lot of his gothic castles and such.
But yeah, Angel Zag was supposed to be a comedy Lupe the third thing, and then that got scrapped,
and then it was going to be like a more coherent story, and then that got scrapped,
and then he wanted it to be obtuse.
And so the end result was it got.
you know, critically acclaimed for its beauty in
in Japan
a lot of, you know, people were like
rightfully praising that, but
there was one notable negative reception
that I saw and
that came from
that came from one
Miyazaki
Hayau
and he said that he didn't
understand the film and
he appreciates the effort
but he feels it was not something others would understand.
Oshy goes on a one-way journey without thinking about how to get back.
And honestly, he's not wrong.
That's so brutal, man.
He's not wrong.
That's so brutal.
Holy shit.
Like, it's gorgeous, but he's not wrong.
And as somebody who, like, there's definitely always wrong.
room for something to be like kind of left open and to like let the let the let the let the
let the let the looker come to you sometimes and such I I you know but like there's when you
make those decisions I guess like they're open to critique sometimes they work and
sometimes they don't and um this is this is kind of one of those cases where I'm like
I don't think it worked as well you know and not that he shouldn't be like able to
are willing to try that, but the end result did, like, you kind of lose track of everything
going on at a point, despite the beauty. Now, I know that it's a divisive as fuck movie,
and if you're somebody who's like, I just love the vibe, and that's all that matters,
it's going to be the best thing ever. And that's, that, that, that's fair. If that's, if that's
all you were looking for. But, um, I read that and I was like, damn, Miyazaki, I, I, I, I see
what you're saying. If I can pull
from a turn of phrase
my wife loves to use
if I was a filmmaker
and was criticized harshly
by Hayao, Mike Niyazaki,
I would simply kill myself.
Oh my God.
So it's funny because I then read that like
Oshy's own mother
said that this would result
in him not being able to get work.
and he struggled to get work after this until Patlober
and then eventually goes in the shell
and it's weird but there's when it comes to like these types of
you know that you can tell what's happening and goes to the shell
you can actually you absolutely can yeah
you can actually you can find you like there's a plot and you're like
oh that character you know yeah yeah and
And, you know, because ultimately, ultimately, you know, he's adapting, you know, the original work and not necessarily in charge of the directing and script and everything else entirely, you know.
But anyway, no, where was it?
What was I going to say?
The, the, yeah, he had a hard time getting work after that and eventually, like, you know, you kind of broke the spell or sore.
But there's a difference when you're making these decisions to be obtuse on purpose, right?
Yeah, if Massimunei Shiro is behind him, then God bless.
But when you decide, when something is like being written or a moment happens and you go, huh, you know what?
should we explain more or should we leave that where it is?
And you go, I'm going to leave it where it is.
Let's leave that.
Let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's leave that open, you know?
I can see I've seen and I mean I've worked on things where that's been a part of it.
Um, where it kind of like it comes out of the sculpture, so to speak.
And then you kind of leave it undefined in a way deliberately.
Um, there's a reverse version of that.
I want to, I want to hold you on to there because I feel like there's a somatic version of the two ideas.
you're describing.
Like, there's a body version.
Because, like, one of the things I think about when you run into, like, a, you know,
obtuse narrative, right?
Or, like, something.
There's two things.
You can have your, you can look at, you know, audience man, audience woman.
They can either be sitting there with their arms crossed a little bit and their hand on their
chin, maybe, just like, hmm, hmm, right?
That's good.
That's what you want.
What you don't want is their hands on their knees and their eyes squinted a little.
little bit going, what, what? So who? There's two feelings. Why? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Those, those two feelings.
You don't want that one. That's bad. And there's also two, there's also two ways to go about these moments, right? There's ways where you can, uh, essentially, um, you can think about the, like, the character and whatever details you want to say about them and go, let's bring these lines to the forefront, right? So an item description in Souls is a great example of
that about like we don't know anything about this character except for what we get from
their weapon their soul you know these couple of paragraphs or so right um the the the when
when average movie goer is watching a film they should not sound like my mother watching an
episode of law and order okay get a confused by law and order okay who who is that wasn't he the
the other way to go about it the other way to go about it is to have it all fleshed out and then
take things away um and that that can be done but it's a much more delicate situation to
fuck up and in this case where you're like oh he specifically took moments that existed and said
i want these to be harder to understand the like that is my goal it's like it's not the same
feeling you know um and and i i feel like that's there's a bunch of the of this where it you know
you kind of go, ah, yes, this
had more context or more lines
or this had something that was
fit better, or fit
more clearly into the narrative. And then he
went, no, I don't want people figuring it
out that easy. And then decided to
obtusify it, you know?
So anyway, all this to say that
it's a gorgeous movie, but
fuck, is it a
head fuck narratively? And
it's a gorgeous
art book that is moving,
but it is a difficult
recommend unless you are down with that art, and that's the entirety of what you're here
to experience.
There's a decision to leave the audience behind, and it was made on purpose, and sometimes
that works, but in this instance, I don't think it did.
This is also an old classic, so it's kind of, it's kind of wild to be pointing at it and
saying this, but you can taste the paper on it.
But this is, this is, this is, you know, walking out of the theater with it.
This feels like the kind of movie that, like, the most annoying guy you know would make his entire personality.
I mean, yeah, yeah, it could be, it could be, you know, like, there's always the, I mean, Lynch gets those lynched fans that go that, that become that person, you know, but, but in any case, this is this, I didn't get the same vibes from this that I got from Mulholland Drive.
mind you
but yeah
I don't think anyone ever would
from anything
or other media
that decide to be
more quiet and obtuse about things
it feels absent
is what it feels like you know
like if you're showing me things that I don't
understand and then
kind of like letting me piece together how they might
connect
um
there's at least there's more
to chew on there, but in this case, it was a lot of, like, this one girl in this one environment
with little things around, but not much in a larger context to, you know, sort of chew on.
You know, I described the fishermen and the fish and the shadow thing.
Like, that was one of the most standout unique moments that were not just involving these
two characters walking around, you know.
And I fucking loved Eco and Shadow the Colossus.
You know what I mean?
So, anyway.
Anyway, it's beautiful, though.
All right.
And then last, there was...
But not least.
But not least.
Fixed.
Ah, you saw it.
I saw that it has excellent reviews on Rotten Tomatoes.
The Gendi Tarnikovsky animated feature film coming to Netflix on August 13th about a dog who's about to get neutered
having his last day out
on the town
now so I'm gonna grab my dog
with no balls
to listen to this review
starring various names
including Idris Elba
and so like incredible
ridiculous cast in this
Fixed is
fucking hilarious
oh yeah
it's really funny
it is absolutely disgusting
it is
super funny and fucking gross
and you have to be
last batch of running stumpy episode
you have to be down
with the fucking gross
if you're going to fully enjoy and embrace this
that's the caveat
and it's loud and clear
Willie, I would like to ask you
Just a clarifying question
Yeah
Just to set the tone
Um
Is this cope
No
No
And I can elaborate
You to like go back
And like examine it for like a second
No I can elaborate
I can elaborate
There's big laughs that the audience is having
And that I and that we had
Um
To the shit going on in the movie
but there are also moments where the entire row of us
where Pudge Mom and me and Reggie and Canty
are like all looking away from the screen
because we can't take what's happening on screen right now.
All right? So if you want like,
there's funny dog owner humor going on
and a lot of fun, like you can tell too,
like, okay, this is a dog owner that knows and understands
dogs and like little inside bits
that are very, very specific
to dog ownership. I have an ugly disabled
dog. I would get these bits.
Absolutely, right? They're on
they're out in full force for a whole lot of that movie
and there's a charm
to how much this movie
loves dogs and paying attention
to the little things they do and if you're
a dog owner, what you get from that.
At the same
time, I hope
you are okay and ready
to stare at
turds being chewed on
in detail
like
yeah I can do that
okay so if you're listening to this
some people
can probably do that
some people can't
staring
I've had to I can't take that
I've had to scrape cat shit
off my dog's teeth man
yeah okay I'm out I'm out I can't do that
that's fucking crazy I can't do that
oh man right oh I have bad news for you sir
and you know what no no no
I have bad news for you.
No, no, no, no, no.
Baby and her own poop are, are, are, its own little world of, it's, it's told.
All right.
There is, hold on to that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I am, I am, there's, there is nothing that can come from that.
That'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll be an issue.
Um, there, someone right down that he said this.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
What that actually means is, it will be an issue, but I'm going to fucking do it.
And that'll be that.
There you go.
okay
all right
like an issue
actually is for me
is like no I can't do this
I'm tapping out
no there is no tapping out
it's happening regardless
but it'll suck
there are there right
that's it
I'll tell you I'll tell you a story
now now now
now
the row of us sitting there
can't deal with that
that's too much man
and it was fucking
and like the bit
was that like
it keeps going
it was like
we know we're gross
so let that linger
and let's add
Right, let's add the details, right?
You're like, oh, I got no problem, sure, okay.
And, like, you know, there's points in the movie
where there's like a poop emoji style joke
of like, oh, it's the little ice cream fucking thing or whatever.
This is, like, details and peanuts, man.
Yeah, whatever.
Okay, so you're saying whatever, but for anyone listening...
I watched the cup, I didn't blink.
That's fine, but just understand, a lot of people
are not going to whatever that.
That it fucking is like, ugh, right?
so that's it
that's it right
if um
you know there's
there's hilarious laughs
you know
and and and big old
fucking great
there's some funny ass bits but there's
like dog fucking
like there's
dog sex happening
and it's awful
and it is like
super like emphasized
there are out right
there are elements of that where it's like
you're animating the feeling of
like you know when a cartoon dog is like floating or a cartoon is like floating because of the
smell of a pie or whatever that's right yeah the waft of the heat coming from the the the female
in heat and we're animating that the fucking we're animating the dog pussy waft as the dog is getting
in there to to fuck and you're like oh my god what are we doing guys and it's just it's a lot man
I gotta tell you, somebody who's
owned dogs my whole life, this is actually
like, you need to just fucking...
Okay, well, that's good. It's good that you can
fucking tank that and you're fine, but I'm describing
why everyone else is having a rough
go about fixed, right?
And where you start... The reason
why you started this going, like,
are you sure it wasn't cope? It's because that
feeling everybody's getting
is from what I'm describing.
That shit is in there.
You know?
It...
if you're gonna go see this or go watch it on Netflix
or if I'm gonna recommend it to people
you have to be able to deal with what I'm describing
and if you can then great
and if that sounds like a bad time
then you know
so what you're saying is that you're saying is if you're cool
and tough as fuck you should watch this movie
and if you're a little
pussy man you just stay oh yeah yeah not
not not being down with the fucking
fucking turd eating
is, it's just gross
stuff.
Yeah, exactly.
It's gross stuff.
Anyways.
I don't know what, there's no,
you either feel this way or you don't,
and that's it. End of story. This is where we are.
It's not like it's pickles on a sandwich.
Okay. Disgusting.
The things that make you viscerally react
and gag
yeah make you viscerally react and gag pat hey hey listen woolly woolly dogs exist in the real world mystery syringes are rare
and we've reached the limit of the point and i've established so that anybody who's hearing this
i'm talking past you at this point to the to people who are like oh yeah i kind of don't want to
see shit eating actually you know yeah but anyways um
now that being said
it's fucking it's it's it's really funny
like it's super wild
and it does definitely
um
I was thinking that the
um
uh uh uh
the inspirations were going to be
I think I said like Fritz the cat or
um John K
and it's like it was actually not that
it was like Tex Avery
it's just going on like a big adventure
into the city and you know
um overall
in terms of just like animation
quality and like
the um gendie doing what he does it's incredible stuff but he's using it for evil
for evil he's using his talents for extreme evil to attack you specifically to attack
everybody really this is not no you he's pointing his finger at you go on i'm going to get
you willie well i can prove that that's not the case and let me let me get there all right
Oh, yeah. Oh, oh.
So, we're sitting there and, like, they go, all right, we're going to bring up the, we're going to bring up a special guest, and it's the, and then we're like, we're like, oh, and it's like, it's the, the animation France festival curator, and it's like, oh, hey, come on, you know, he comes up and he introduces some of the choices for their films and everything, and we're just like, Jesus Christ, like, okay, he's like, it's the closing film of the festival.
you know, let's, uh, yeah, like, fine, this is a big deal and such, but, like, imagine
me to keep under these circumstances. That would be insane. And then the dude goes,
ladies and gentlemen, Gendi Tartikovsky. And Gendi walks out on stage. And we're like,
what? I filmed the bit. Like, literally me and Reggie and we're just like, why?
You're here now for this? We're meeting you because dog pussy.
Yeah, dude.
It's what he really cares about.
And he actually showed up in this for this premiere.
And then, you know, the movie played.
He got an award.
And then he did a Q&A afterwards.
And at the Q&A, he was describing, like, they're like,
okay, so what the fuck, man?
You know?
And he explained it.
He explained it.
And so basically, he's been trying to make this.
I said 11 years before since 2008.
So it has been longer than that.
And he has been trying to make this.
And it was also a movie that he wanted to make.
It was basically like something with him and like his friends from school back in the day.
Like their crew, you know, was kind of like he wanted to kind of like kind of like have it like a little animated feature with some of those friends.
Almost like Seinfeldie, you know.
And then at one point he was like, oh, maybe.
Making them dogs is like a fun way to do that.
And pitched it and got interest, but, you know, couldn't get, couldn't land it, you know?
And after all this time, it's finally like, it's finally possible.
That's fucking 17 years now, you know?
But he was describing how he's like, you know, in addition to that, he's like, he loves his dog.
And you can tell.
Like, he fucking pees in, you know.
How can you not?
They're the best guys.
and just he just he didn't have a pitch beyond him and four other dogs that represent his real life friends
kind of have hanging out and having adventures and then at one point they went like oh well
they're like they're like that's good but it needs a point it needs like something to stick you know
and then they're like oh what if he was going to get fixed the next day and then they're like okay
great but also right around 2010 or so like adult R-rated comedy just evaporated and stopped
existing. Like there was nothing. And no one was interested and that continued to be the case for a
really long time. And then basically it was around like COVID where like that started to like change
again or so. But no one was hiring and no other no one no one else was working on was on that
stuff. And you know, R rated things are always like really really like rare for studios because
they're just like nobody's going to see this. It makes no money. What's the point? Then you go on
top of that 2D hand animated, not 3D? What are you crazy? Right? I just like, I don't think I could
get the chunks the right viscosity in 3D. Yeah, yeah. And so, you know, TV has always been TV,
but in terms of film, you know, yeah, Simpsons and Family Guy and South Park have always been
there. But in terms of getting movies made, like, like, it was just, it was a huge obstacle
that nobody was interested in. When they eventually did get it done, he's like, they ran it by
and they did four large test audience screenings
and at each one of the screenings
the audience was howling
it was every big laugh was happening
it was humongous everyone was dying
in their seats and then afterwards
under your seat you grab an iPad and you fill out
how you felt about the movie and on the
test screenings they tested like shit
they tested horribly
because everyone was laughing
but was also disgusted and horrified
and it was like this is this is my mom and the simpsons my mom hated my dad and me watching the simpsons
she'd be like oh it's so crass and rude and disgusting and we'd be like it's the it's the
simpsons what are you talking about and then every time she would walk by and see it and stare at it
for 10 seconds a gag would get her and she'd laugh go oh no no no right yeah so the idea
being like yeah it's you you're the person like everyone they're laughing and then after the fact
there's just there's there's some people that are probably just like feeling that shame at it or
whatever but as someone who likes raunchy comedy you know i'm down for raunchy comedy but
every but the test screenings all went horribly because it was just also too disgusting you know
and so you can laugh at a movie because some scenes are like that but other scenes you're losing
people and when I was like there were at least yeah there's two three parts where I was like
all right we get it I'm looking away like I'm legit looking away now you know um and uh and I think
that's kind of what what the struggle was eventually you know Netflix is like super down for it
and they're like yeah fuck it throw it up there and so that so it's getting made now and it's done
but this is what you got to know going into it you know and I think uh the the reviews as well like
yeah you're you're you're gonna see once it comes out or so you're gonna see it it's gonna probably
be very high but also extremely divisive right because it's like a good kind of movie to see
with like a milkshake and like chocolate raisins or a melty oh henry bar
i don't like them melty like they're they're they're like a mess in the best of times
Well, in any case
Yeah, there is a very clear
Like, you know, kind of like a good movie
Can still have a dog dying in it
And that always tests poorly
Yes
You know how that's a universal thing
That just doesn't go well
Hey
I'd say that that's not even true
I'd say that your movie can't be good
If a dog dies in it
Bad movie
Oh
Oh
Immoral even
Oh, interesting
Dogs are good
Yeah
Yeah
So if a gag in this movie happens
Where
I don't know
Would that 180 this conversation
Oh absolutely 100%
Oh then I then I guess we have to
Because it makes me feel sad
And I don't want to feel sad
And if I feel sad
watching a movie, bad movie. Well, then I guess
you're going to have to 180 your stance.
Darn.
Because it is
a, no, no, no. It is a, there is a
quick, it is a quick gag, but there is
absolutely dog death in this movie, and it's
brutal. Oh, that's a bummer. It's brutal.
There is, there's also squirrel
death you could see in the trailer. That's,
it's, squirrels have no souls. That's
very brutal as well.
So, you know,
uh, yeah.
Guess what? The old adage, that dog dying,
on a film is like horrible for test scores
continues to be true
in this case 100%
you know
so yeah fixed is coming out
you can in 10 days or in less than
in about about a week
you can check it out on Netflix and see for yourself
but like this is the deal
there's going to be a line drawn in the sand
between you know the folks who are able to handle
the scat humor and those that can't per se
and the rest of it you know the
like animal sex in particular
is like you can
it there's a lot of cases
where it's like, okay, you can imply, you can zoom out, but then some parts where you go all in on it, there's like a, oh my God, okay, you know, um, Austin Powers had the, then like poop bits happen in comedies from time to time as well. Like the Austin Powers mug is implied and that allowed the censorship rules to change forever, et cetera. But this is just what it is. Just like, know you're going in and know that's going to be a part of it. And if you're going to get your laughs regardless, then yeah, it'll be, it'll be great. You'll have a good time. Um, because I, I enjoyed it and I thought it was a very funny movie, but I have to put this, the, the,
biggest disclaimer heads up in advance of this.
And let me ask you, Gendie's nuts.
Do you think that this is the kind of thing that if you had not seen it in the theater,
you wouldn't have felt as much social pressure to not vomit?
If I watched it at home, you would have been like, fuck it, I'm going to barf.
If I watched it at home, no, I probably would have reacted the same way.
I would have been like, yeah, we get it, man, we get it.
We get it.
Okay.
Next, right?
And I would have been like, oh, God.
Like, yeah, no, I think I can see myself reacting pretty much the same way.
If you're with a group of friends that are like super down with the fucked up, then, you know, they'll probably encourage that shit.
If you're with your, if you're with your mom and dad having family movie night.
Well, here's the problem.
And you got the kids nestled up, then maybe not.
You can't be the first person to barf.
Right? That's just embarrassing.
You want to hold on at least like number two or three and have it hit with the chain reaction.
At the end of the day, at the end of the day, it's animated.
So there is a limit to the amount of damage it can do.
Right?
Versus like the real thing.
The real thing is always way worse.
But here's another example.
Jackass three?
Hilarious movie?
Absolutely.
Fuck that train scene.
Fuck that.
There's a train volcano scene that is just the worst thing.
Oh, really?
I think of the same one and two with the poop.
Yeah, the diarrhea, the diarrhea ass, yeah.
Yeah, okay.
All right.
Not a fan.
Not a fan.
Funny, funny movie.
Fuck that thing.
I hate that.
That sucks.
So, yeah.
Shit Volcano was not a good time.
and that can simultaneously exist in a movie that I find funny.
Seems like other people are in agreement there.
Like, yes, okay.
Right.
So that's it.
That's fixed.
And I'd say that's probably like the apt comparison point where you're like,
big laughs, but boy, do they come at a cost?
So yeah.
Anyway, that's about it.
The only other thing I wanted to let people know is that,
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You probably can't.
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Um, should I have put a plug, uh, in the, the big old boxing match?
Yeah, I probably should have. That would have been smart.
Yeah, that's like it would be a wildly appropriate thing.
Yeah, especially given it was right before the day before. But you know what? I'm a dumbass.
So this is how, this is, this is what you get.
I mean, you're busy. This is what you get.
This is what you got stuff going on.
Yeah. Um, but if you want to get one, get one now, uh, because you will not be able to get one later.
Um, unless it does crazy well and they go, hey, let's bring it back. But as far as I, my understanding, this is a one-time shot.
with a threshold of like really high sales for being like we can do another if you want but
we'll have to see all right
you want to do some sponsors or do you want to switch over to pat time
let's do some sponsors all right can i pee first let's pee yeah
piss not as nasty as poop uh hold it
piss can be
much nastier than poo
because piss can be hidden
much more effectively
hmm
no
like you walk in someone
is that a log of shit
and you're like whoa
that's brutal right
but you could there could be items
that are like secretly pissed on
no but it's just it's old and vague
but I won't feel anywhere close
to the level of revulsion
that I would feel with number two.
Like one is just always
not going to do as much damage as number two.
Really?
Unversally, under any circumstance.
Okay, what about this?
What about this?
You can avoid shit a lot more easily
if it's being like thrown at you
or attacked on you.
But piss, it's hard to dodge piss.
Yeah.
And I would...
If piss is coming at you,
it's going to get you.
But the desperation to avoid it
is not nearly as high.
Oh, I don't know.
I don't want piss.
No, I don't want it either.
I'm going to be very desperate in all scenarios.
But yes, but it's just, like, there are people that are not listening to this episode anymore because we started talking about poop.
Oh, I would like to point out, I wasn't going to blow her up quite as hard, but like my wife has like barfed twice listening to this episode so far.
So that's like people are tuning out because of this conversation.
Like you're you're standing here being like, no, it's no big deal.
And I'm like, dude, everyone hates it.
It's the worst.
You're nuts
Don't get it twisted
I hate this also
But I hate lots of things
And I have to do them
Okay
Well this is
This is about the poop
That you don't have to do
Like sometimes your dog
As like a turd
And like there's too much of like hair
In the turds
Yeah
Yeah yeah yeah
And being
Yeah yeah
And so being responsible
Means you chose this path
And therefore you got to do that
To be a good
You know
Dog owner
And to be a good parent
And so on sure
But for all
the stuff that you don't have to do
that you have no responsibility to.
For all the ones that are just out there in the wild
that you have no responsibility
over. Fuck that shit.
All right.
I bet I could run faster from a guy
pooping than a guy pissing.
The neuron activation.
I bet he could, I bet,
no, I bet he could run faster
if he was just pissing than if he was
pooping. I mean, it's just
like you can't you just can't get there you just can't get there i don't know it's just
yeah they're like i don't know i don't know what to tell you it's just like
well i'm going to go piss in a toilet where you're supposed to
a threat to no one let's take a quick break brb you know you know
I just thought
Yeah
Yeah what did you
I just had a thought
Before we do sponsors
Because I can tell this is a pre-sponsor thought
I can tell it's a pre-sponsor thought
I have a name for you
And that that name is Jim Norton
Oh yeah
Yeah no thanks
And no there's a difference there
And he made his he made a career
He made a career
On the fact
That he was able to take it
further beyond the limits
of where anyone is willing to go
with that shit, right?
No.
The fact that, like,
people are like,
yo,
if you're being a fuck,
a filthy degenerate
and you take it to number one,
people are,
people are gross,
but like can follow you there.
But with the two,
level two is like,
well,
that's why you're,
that's what your career is based on.
His career is from the fact
that everyone's like,
you're down with what?
here's the thing
I'm not down with anything
I like I have
like people watch my show often actually know
I'm actually down with almost nothing
what I have is just a really
high threshold for tolerance
because in that whole discussion
that whole discussion
none of that is the grossest
thing that I've ever had to deal with
I used to have to
sort bottles that
were given in by homeless guys
in the bottom of the grocery store
for like entire work shifts
that is
an order of magnitude
grosser than anything we have talked about
today
like that is
so much worse
than anything
we have talked about today
it is so disgusting
and I would do that like nine to five
for like a week
like drinking bottles
40s and beer bottles
that would be found
acquired
brought in
to give in
not washed out
so when you're stacking
thousands and thousands
of filthy beer bottles
you hope
that that's old beer
you're smelling
you're smelling
You pray that that's old beer.
Yeah, I think, um, I think like just the, the, the gag reactions are just placed in different locations for you.
Like, they exist, but they come from different places, you know?
They're distributed a little, a little bit differently, you know, but I, I say Jim Norton to say that.
Someone in the chat says, you hope it's best even.
You hope.
You hope. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Dear God, please.
Um, oh, no, it's a Jankham.
Oh, well, that, oh, no. Then you, then you fuck up and drop one and cut yourself and then you get to enjoy this mental process.
Sure. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Nightmare. Nightmare. Yeah, yeah. So, so that's it. That's it. That's it. But like, like, that is a career built on the fact that most people cannot deal with this discussion. That's the, his entire fucking, you know,
These Gen Zs don't know how to deal with piss anymore.
Back in my day.
I mean, that's from the fucking Ozzy generation forward, really, you know.
But I don't know.
G.G. Allen, some something.
I wish G.G. Allen was still performing.
But G.G. Allen is a wild and funny, like, anecdote.
Because it is just a story, and it is just words coming from.
from our mouths into a microphone
and not actually in the room
happening to you.
Like, as long as this is a fable
and also he is no longer
alive and cannot hurt you,
then we can laugh about
Gigi Allen all we want.
Only grows with the fact
that he's a dead guy.
Oh, man.
Would that stop being funny
the second he was standing behind you?
Now? Oh, that'd be hilarious, dude.
I guess you can't poop with bones
But
Um
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Bro, I had a huge week.
I had a lot going on.
August is going to be a fucking big month for me going forward.
Yeah?
Lots of birthdays.
Yeah.
Lots of birthdays.
So, today is my darling, wonderful wife's 29th birthday yet again.
29 years young.
Congratulations, Paige.
Happy birthday.
You've been 29 for an unknown number of years.
Happy birthday, page.
Love you, darling.
Birthday stuff is one of the reasons that we are moving today's show slightly over.
I noted that you.
you have not yet, you're still doing good because the mistake is when you start saying 29
years young, that's what it's- That's fucking shit.
Oh, that's, that's when it's over, right?
That's, that's even worse than the real thing.
That's dog shit.
No, fuck that.
Yeah.
No, no, no.
All right.
Also, I now have a two-year-old.
Which is crazy because, and I've described this on, on stream, it's weird.
my son is two years old because he just got here six months ago.
Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
And it was weird when he was one years old because he got here six months ago.
Uh-huh. Yes.
Like, no matter how old he is, he feels like he's only been here for six months.
It's fucking weird. It's super fucking weird.
Yeah. It's the, it's the 2000s. There was, they're all, they were just yesterday.
I hear those twos can get pretty terrible.
Oh, he's an angel.
He's, I mean, you hung out with him.
he was an angel then and he's an angel now.
Yeah. No tantrums, no problems.
His language development is rock solid.
When I take him out for his
morning walk, you know, to the
park, I set him up into
the stroller and what does he do? He looks
over. It goes,
bye-bye, caboose, bye-bye,
Catmo.
Every morning, total angel.
The best child ever.
Let's see what new language he
learns and, you know, whether
too bad. Oh, he's full on
repeat mode. We're locked in
down. We're locking it down like right now.
Too bad and
and hug rejection.
Yeah, no, no, no. We're up, we're up to
oh, it's the newest. We're up to like
six, seven word
sentences now.
Like, oh, we can't go to the park
because it's dark and he'll go
oh, sun go down, moon go up,
big night time.
It's like, yeah, no, we can't go to the park because
big night time. Let's go.
Hell yeah.
Is Pat capable of not swearing?
No, I'm trying to just phase out.
I'm just trying to phase it out. It's tough.
He's a genius, and he's
the handsomest child of all the
other competing children in my neighborhood,
and it sucks for those
other parents. Competing.
Oh, yeah, no.
My child is better.
Just give it literally a couple
of weeks, and you'll be like, wow, every other baby
in this maturity ward, shit.
stupid. Stupid. Unemployed.
Just literally give it a couple of weeks.
Would step over them if they were on fire.
Oh, yeah. Oh, 100%. Oh, you're going to feel it. It's going to be super intense.
And then the part of your brain is going, that's not real. And you're going to be like,
shut up that part of my brain. I don't love you anymore.
I love it. I, you this front part? Fuck that. I want this back part of my brain.
Oh, no. Oh, no, no, no.
That's where all the bad stuff comes from.
Nah, that's where all that good animal brain shit comes from.
Hell yeah.
That's where the boomer led retreats to.
No, it's too late.
So, we had a big day.
We had a combination birthday, like a big outing for Paige and the little man.
So what we did is we got Auntie, or the boys' babies.
at her who we're friends with, right?
She has, her grandkids live in Victoria,
which is the capital of BC.
It's on Vancouver Island, right?
So what we did,
so got everybody into the car,
we took a day trip down to the Victoria, right?
And the primary reason for that
is that we caught the last show of this.
Oh, Book of Mormon live.
I'm holding up a Book of Mormon standee.
Hell yeah.
So Paige wanted to see live theater,
and she's like, hey, bitch,
you're going to see live theater
for the first time, she said to me.
You didn't catch it when they came here.
I've never seen
I've never seen live theater in my life
aside from the dog shit
that are Dawson English teachers
mandated us to go see as part of the curriculum.
Okay, okay.
So I've been like, wow, live theater is trash
and to Page, this is offensive
because she's been a live...
No, no, like...
Okay, but wait, but we talked about the original...
Like, you saw the record.
of it from years ago.
No. No? I thought we talked about that.
No, I just listened to you talk about it.
Wow. Okay. There was a record.
And I was like, cool. There was a recording of the original Broadway run that was on the
internet, and it was fucking hilarious. And then years later, it toured and then started
making the rounds. And yeah, we caught it here in the city. I think twice.
But, yeah. How about that?
So before that, went down to Victoria. Beautiful city.
Really pretty city. Like, top shelf.
like pretty city gorgeous walkable took my little man to the beacon hill children's animal farm
oh in victoria okay large scale public park filled with wandering peacocks alpacas pigs ducks goose
and goats and we took my little man to pet the piggies and pet the alpacas
and pet the goats
and he petted those goats
and he had a great time
Did he see any for the first time?
Oh, this is the first time he's seen a goat.
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
It's the first time he's seen a pig in person.
Okay, okay, okay.
And he was super, super, super, super stoked
about it and had a great time.
But better than that
is that like,
because who knows what the memory thing is, right?
right so you go hey little man like four days later like hey little man
did you did you what did you go to the park and it was yeah you know how he does and go
what did you do at the park two three days ago right he goes pet pig pet goat I'm like okay
memory yep like it wasn't a transitional yeah yep yep yeah good time like memory low
voted in on petting the goats.
And you got the photos and the memory to like reinforce in the future as well.
Because because that's the thing is like it's in there, right?
But so for me, like some of my earliest memories I have are like Disney at five because
everything I have before that was just people describing things to me.
And you start thinking, you start thinking about what they described more than what you actually
lived through. So, like, having that stuff to
reinforce it is really crucial and important. Yeah.
And also, I'm really thrilled because
my first experience with goats
and animals as a child
that were not dogs or cats were
all universally horrible nightmares.
Oh, Granby?
So, like, my parents brought me to Park Safari
when I was three. And then
they put me in the goat enclosure
and said, go pet the goats. But they
didn't go in with me. And so then the goats started
to eat my jacket.
And I started to lose my fucking mind, because
the ghost eating my clothes on my body
the fucking irresponsibility
oh my god
yeah in the in you go
you'll figure it out
and then back when seaworld was the thing
and I went to seaworld when I was like four or five
and my dad was like
hey pat why don't you go feed the dears
so what he did was he took a handful
of deer food and gave it
to five year old pat
the smallest child you've ever seen
and sent me off by myself to feed the dears that towered over me.
So what happened?
This massive batch of baby deers just knocked tiny pad over and were like, give me the treats.
So my dad to, like, grab me.
So these were not good situations, right?
That sucks.
They, you were set up to fail.
Hold on.
Did you mean Marine land?
Absolutely.
These were massive parental mistakes.
Did you mean Marine land?
Yeah, it was Marina Land.
Yeah, Niagara Falls.
The Canadian nightmare.
Yeah, okay, okay, all right.
Um, anyway, so, me and Paige bring the little man into the goat enclosure, and dad crouches down, goes, pet, pet, pet the goat.
And my good little guy goes, pet, pet, pet, and he petted the goat.
And the goat, like, got near him.
And he was like, I'm cool with the goat.
And he petted, and he was chill, and it was like a good time, didn't fuck it up.
The fear of fucking it up is so intense.
You got that, you got the one shot at the first time.
No, you should be afraid of deer.
You, you, like, based on what you just, you should, what you just described should be a one and done I'm out experience.
I'm also not big on goats in general, like, because I can remember being afraid that they're going to eat my clothes.
It's like a core, formative memory.
You had fun in Nara.
Yeah, but Nara deer are more polite than Western.
They are.
They are.
They are.
They understand, they understand the common courtesy to.
norm. They do. They really believe
in the collective good, you know.
They care about society and
order.
Just less selfish, you know?
So then
we hung out with the boy,
did Beacon Hill,
petted the animals, saw a bunch of peacocks.
It's just peacocks all over that place. That's the weirdest part.
Like free-roaming peacocks throughout the whole
part. Then we
went down to a place called
Quasars in Victoria.
which is a basement arcade.
Okay.
And Quasars is very cool, very classic style, old style arcade.
It has the only House of the Dead Two cabinet I have encountered in decades that the guns have the sights on correct and the elastics aren't busted to shit.
Okay.
Like I got there and I walked, there's a House of the Dead Two machine.
I'm like, okay, let's see how broken this one is.
And I put a token in and shot it
And it went where it was supposed to
And the elastic on the gun
That's sick
Fine
Yeah
And I
I went over to the guy
Like that was clearly stoned
Running the fucking thing
I can't believe
The elastic isn't busted on this fucking thing
And he goes yeah I know man
It's crazy
Yeah
Keeping it in good condition
Is also an extreme rarity
Shoutouts to Cidercate in Texas
That's really really cool
Okay
Those guns were not made to last
Now they're over 20 years old
So there's a thing
thing that's been popping up around recently
which is like, because all arcades
died and atrophied, right,
in this area, the only thing
is existing were the machines that were inside the
movie theater, right? Everything else, fuck you.
But something that's been popping up
recently has been claw machine
zones. Well, that's just gambling.
Has that, I don't know if you've
been getting like Japanese style claw machine
like rooms? Okay, there are a big trend
popping up over here. And I
walked into one with a couple friends before and I was like,
oh yeah, this is okay. It's kind of like, it's doing
the Japanese-style thing, but
the feeling of the lights and the music
and everything going, and you have all those little machines
but then there's some kid arcade machines
and little things to write on.
And I was like, oh, fuck,
you know what? Actually, I'm glad these are here
because if they weren't, there would be
no experience of the walking into
an arcade feeling as a kid for her
when she gets here. All right?
If this is the only way to get that feeling of,
whoa, the lights and all the fucking bells and whistles.
I gotta be blunt, because like,
I think,
I think you might have overshot the target on this.
Anybody watching this live can see that there is a functional, brightly lit, colorful arcade in your background.
Like, I think you're good.
I think you're fine.
She's not going to be up here for a while.
You know, we'll get there.
She might be sick of it at that point, to be perfectly honest.
That's the danger.
I'm constantly like mitigating myself to not be like
Check this out
Yeah but the feeling
I the feeling of walking into the rows of games and fun stuff
Like that those places were just dead here
And now that they exist I'm like you know what
I don't really care for claw machines
But at least it gives something
Possible for her to experience that
So that's super cool and uh what did
What did he run to?
Oh the the little man
Oh he he he had split
off from us to go hang out with auntie
and the other grandkids
out on the town by ourselves.
Oh, okay, okay. House of the Dead was for you.
Yeah, it was for us.
Yes, okay, okay. No, no, we wouldn't have brought the
little man to an arcade at two. It's
way too loud, way too
very, fair, fair, fair. So
then we went, just a very minor
side note, then we went to a Japanese restaurant that I can't
remember in which me and Paige
once we ordered, we're like, oh my God,
that old lady who took our order, fucking
hates us. Holy shit.
What happened? She hates us.
No, she just, like, she looked at us
and I could just feel
how mad she
was to be serving
anyone in her restaurant.
Ah. So that means the food
was incredible, right? It was incredible.
Yeah. It was fantastic. Yeah.
It was absolutely stellar. Let's go.
I was like live posting
it while it was happening. I was like
in a restaurant, I think everyone here
hates us. Correct. The food is
Fire! It's incredible!
The more they hate you being
there, the better it's going to taste.
Love it.
Contempt is the best spice.
I had to ask her a couple times
about what kind of noodles I wanted with my soup,
and she was just like fucking trying not to roll
her eyes and just...
Yep. Nothing tastes better than
malice on your dinner.
So then we went down
to the Royal Vic Theater, where we
could see the Book of Mormon.
and a miracle
happened. We got good seats
yeah center middle row
so like maybe eight rows from the back
on the on the main floor
packed house
the two people who had seats in front of us
never showed up. Whoa
that's fucking lucky
just the absolute
most peak viewing
Holy shit.
Damn.
And I tried to point it out and Page was like, shut up.
Shut up.
If you say something, the tallest man in the world.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's great.
Especially for that one.
So I, as I said earlier, have never seen live theater ever.
And I've also been one of those guys, eight rows from the stage.
I don't know what I said that's different, but I was not from the back.
Oh, eight rows from the stage.
So like near the front.
Yeah.
Um, we were close to the front. Um, and I'm one of those people that goes, explain why this is good. And then people have a trouble explaining it. And I go, that sounds like shit. It must be bad and you must be stupid. Which is a very difficult personality type to actually engage. Hard cut to Hasadiga. E. Boi.
Yeah. So I think that might have been one of my least. Yeah. Maggots and my scrotum didn't get you.
it's pretty good
All-American profit is probably our favorite
Oh man, it's such as bangers
It's so good
What's interesting to me
Because I don't have a whole lot of experience with Mormons
I have one experience
In which I scared the Mormons
In my neighborhood
Away from my house
Because they kept showing up
Over and over
And Paige would handle it
And Paige was too nice
to be like
fuck off
she'd she'd always defer
she'd always be like
oh we're really busy right now
you see but but without
without being harsh enough
you leave the polite window
for revisiting
so I got
you know at some point
she saw them out the window
and she's like pat fine
that's the scenario
I live within my life
where eventually someone goes pat
oh I remember this
I remember this
you stepped in
with my favorite
like shutdown ever
where I opened the door
and they got two words in
and I just said yeah
I don't care about any of that shit
yes right right right yeah
and they just had no idea
how to play off that
you see like
this was where
like one of my early encounters
was when I was still in the church
so I took it as an opportunity
to debate which they were
at first like oh we got one
and then
they're like
Yeah, and then cut to the clock and then cut to like, what the fuck are we doing?
What you did is you did a public service because you cut down on the amount of visits.
That they can make it to other houses.
There you go.
Yep.
But so to their credit, despite coming to my house a lot, they were always very nice and very polite.
Of course.
Very, very kind, right?
So, Book of Mormon is an incredible fucking musical, absolutely stellar, hilarious.
hilarious had a big old grin on the whole time sitting on the edge of my seat
audibly gasped at a significant number of plot points and just like oh god no
do you best use most intense use of white face i have seen to date
do you do you remember like was there a point where it just got you like sniper headshot
You think, like, there's a point where I remember just absolutely losing it.
It was the big step forward and inhale and white boy going, I am Africa.
That's pretty late.
For my audience, it was, like, nuclear.
For my audience, it was, uh, turned it off.
Yeah, yeah, like a light switch, shut it down.
Take those gay thoughts and put them into a box and crush it!
And just like had to put the song on hold for about 10 seconds because of the audience could be able to.
Turn it off.
Like a line switch.
Shut it down.
Yeah, wonderful experience.
Fantastic.
Of note, the cast we saw, the gentleman playing Elder Cunningham.
Let me see if I can get his.
Uh, that's not the main guy, right?
I forgot the names.
Main, main guy.
Okay, main guy, yeah.
Uh, let's see.
Named Diego Enrico,
um,
was incredible.
Fantastic.
Would have to be.
Hell yeah.
What you expect that to like Josh Gad or,
or any of the others.
Mm-hmm.
It's his first role.
Whoa.
This is straight.
This is his,
he has no credits.
This is his first credit.
Oh, okay.
So that's Diego Enrico.
The touring, the touring cast.
I'll follow him on Instagram and he's got nothing on his Instagram because he's brand new.
That's crazy.
Because I know that like as soon as something goes off Broadway into like the tour, you know,
it's a bit like the, um, uh, the Final Fantasy concerts or things like that where they start
getting a touring group to like, you know, people that are willing to like, yeah.
And so they have to get the cast difference.
You're never going to see the original cast members.
of course that were there usually at that point they're often famous um and depending on where
the tour is happening what country and such you're getting a completely different cast but you know
you would hope that like yeah stringent rules for like okay if you're able to fucking get cast here
you're perfect for the role so that's that's awesome that's really cool first time uh yeah no
very few notes uh absolutely uh incredible experience fantastic musical this this was a thing for page's
birthday, which is also
one of those, like, segways.
And now she's like, well, now we've got to go see more live
theater. Because you know, you know it's good. You can't
Yeah. Right. So that's the thing.
And like, I'm like, okay, there's a lot of, like, not
every live theater show is going to be like this
targeted to like our sense of humor, admittedly,
but obviously, this is fucking
South Park guys, you know. What sucks
is the other one was Avenue Q,
but like that never toured
or got as famous as this did. And
that was basically Sesame Street, but
R-rated, you know? You know, it's
a really funny process
um me talking to page about talking you about this on the podcast and page is like i bet any amount
of money that willie is not seen the book of mormon and i would go as i knew you had already
seen it and was just holding on to that like three times no you'd also seen avenue queue
though that's hilarious no i have that's the problem is i have not seen avenue cue like i i want
to i've heard the music i listen to the soundtrack of it you know but i haven't seen the actual
show. So yeah, listening to the
soundtrack on the way home, right?
Really, really put in a practice
like, wow, how different it is to listen to
the album of a musical than it is to
see a musical perform. Like really, really
genuinely impressive.
I do have one thing.
I have one tiny little complaint
about everyone I've ever spoken
to, including Paige,
about the cell of live
theater. And I think
it's a respectability problem.
um every single conversation i have ever had about live theater they go but it's different it's different
when you're there and it's live and they're talking about that genesequa right that that that that that live
energy that yeah it in your face production yeah right and i go oh like a wrestling show and everyone goes
oh fuck off no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no and it's like no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no and it's like no
No, no, no, no, no, no.
It is exactly the same.
It is exactly the same.
It is exactly like a wrestling show.
It is exactly like a live comedy.
It is an audience with a room where the laughs are bouncing off the walls and you're there with it.
It's crowd energy plus sublimation and the loss of body.
So I felt myself like rise up.
And so I was like kind of looking down on the cast.
In the moment, that's it.
Combined with a live.
Exactly the same.
With live music.
Watching the Mormons turn it off like a light switch is the same as Undertaker getting up again.
Yes.
Combined with live music and like the enjoy, especially when the songs are good.
I didn't say it was different page.
Wait, I can't argue with her.
It's her birthday.
Okay.
Of course you did.
I'm definitely mistaken, sweetheart.
So yes, it's a hundred percent that.
The crowd energy, the room, the live concert, all of that is real.
It's a tangible fucking enhancer of these events.
Yeah.
I will say though one thing
And this is a social consideration
Intermission's 20 minutes
I got up to stretch my legs
And saw the bathroom line
And was like
Every single one of you
Is fucking kidding yourselves
I watched like a good
200 people lose their minds
Thinking they were going to be able to piss
During this 20 minute intermission
I couldn't believe it
Like, you know, when you're walking down a line and you hit, like, guy number 100 in the line?
Mm-hmm.
And then you see the hundred guys after him?
So...
Have you all lost your fucking minds?
Oftentimes, it's girl 100.
Oh, yeah.
No, no, no.
No, women should carry a bottle, but...
It's rough going.
But, so now that you have been converted and shown the light, then, uh, when's Spider-Man
turn off the dark.
We were talking about that a lot, actually.
Page was like, man, I wish I had seen that shit
before it killed all those people.
Including fucking audience members that
might fall on you, you know?
Yeah. If you're down, if you're willing
to risk a Spider-Man actor
falling on top of you.
Yeah, dude.
I would risk that. I don't care.
Damn.
You'd probably get a sick-ass settlement if you lose an arm
at the Spider-Man show. That'd be hot.
Yeah, dude.
That's workman's.
Com forever. Because Spider-Man.
So
that, our birthday extravaganza
was excellent.
Everything went great.
The baby got a bunch of cool, goat-based
memories. I got to see live
theater. Page got to feel like
the smuggest bitch in the world because she was right
about live theater. Something we've been back
and forthing on, like our entire relationship.
But here's another thing, and this
might be a dampener. So I don't
it might be. I know
exactly what you're going to say.
Book of Mormon is like the best life thing I've ever seen
It's like it's actually the best
I use that against her because I'm like
Oh I'll definitely go to more live theater with you
As long as you can handle after every single one
I wasn't as good as Book of Mormon
It really is all downhill from here
Like it's I'm sorry to say
You're never gonna hit that
It's phenomenal
In the same conversation of Book of Mormon
I'm like so
unfortunately to all people who don't exist in the time and place
the loudest most pop-off event
I've ever seen in my life
was the first show of the first day
of the first week of South Park the movie
in a Canadian theater in Canada
yeah yeah yeah yeah like the earliest a human being could have
ever heard blame Canada with like with a batch of hundreds of 14 year olds like oh my god
us us getting the spotlight in the south park movie was kind of wild oh was the sickest
i couldn't believe how much attention we were getting paid oh i loved it it's me
me yeah um so that went great um i also played a couple video games um
I beat D.K. Bonanza.
Okay.
D.K. Bonanza is uniformly excellent, top to bottom, absolutely amazing top-shelf Nintendo game.
Banana scraping?
No.
Okay.
No, I got, like, anything that was in my way.
I got it, and there's a lot in your way.
Like, I ended the game with full half of all bananas.
Okay.
Like, 500 out of 1,000 bananas.
Fucking great game.
uh weird difficulty curve where um it's a joke like it's a joke until the 99% mark and then it gets
really hard oh yeah like the the very very last level all of a sudden gets super hard
is it nintendo hard where it's like it's hard but the penalty for failure is just a couple
seconds lost?
No, you start to die and have to have like a boss run, like a Dark Souls game.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
Okay.
However, I will say, do you remember me making fun of Nintendo fans because everyone was going
crazy about Sp-you know what?
We're going to just...
Okay.
Now, for those of you who are like, oh, like a Kirby game, no, no, no.
Kirby gets hard after you beat the boss, right?
That's, it begins once you hit first credits.
What's going on?
I was making fun of Nintendo people because all of a sudden,
everyone's like, oh my God, Donkey's no Donkey Kong.
That's like so much going on.
It's so crazy.
There's so many spoilers about it.
You got to have, shh, right?
You remember that attitude?
And I was like, you people all sound insane.
this is fucking Donkey Kong
it's gonna be like
a guy shows up and goes
I'm gonna eat the bananas
and Donkey Kong's gonna go
know my banana
and it's a fucking
it's a fucking Donkey Kong
shut up
and then I was reached out
and I was like no man
it's actually it's really good
you should be careful
you shouldn't right
um
yeah I'm gonna go back on what I said earlier
in Donkey Kong game
Yeah.
The Nintendo people are insane and don't know what spoilers are.
Like, we're not even talking a twist here.
It's fucking ridiculous.
You're going to go back.
You said you're going to go back on what you said.
Yeah, I'm going to go back to my original state.
Back to what you said, not back on.
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Yeah, you guys sound like insane people.
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
You sound like, I don't know if you'll remember this.
This is so ancient.
You all sound like that guy.
crashing out on that
Neo Gaff Tropical Freeze thread
that had Ramby the Rhino
in the title going,
you motherfuckers, I can't believe you ruined
the surprise that Ramby the Rhino
was there.
Insane.
Okay.
Just ridiculous.
Okay.
What a great game.
What an incredible game.
And
my YouTube comments are
dog shit right now because
I got to the end of that game story
and went, huh, cool.
And no more.
And you should have emoted more.
And I didn't pop off hard enough.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
No, don't do that.
But yeah, no, absolutely excellent.
Fantastic final gauntlet, like final set of challenges.
Though I think that it could have curved up a little more smoothly.
It goes from my baby could beat this section
to took me like an hour and a half
to get like the last three bananas.
Okay, are there,
is there a post credit challenge and, you know,
that's a large scale post credit challenge.
Yeah, there we go.
That's what I expect to step up all these things.
There are five super difficult levels
that you need increasing amounts of total bananas to unlock.
Okay, yeah.
So like the very first challenge is like,
well, you can attempt it at 300 bananas.
I'm like, well, I have
500 so I could try it.
But like, and it'll escalate from there.
Like the Mario Galaxy, like Black Stars or whatever they were.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
A great game.
Nintendo people are insane.
They are the Disney adults of video games.
It's cringe.
Stop it.
It's a cartoon monkey that eats bananas.
That is all to be said.
Incredible game.
Absolutely.
fantastic.
Probably my number two this year after Expedition 33.
Okay.
I'm glad to hear that order maintained, actually,
because there's been some speak of that being upset or so.
It might win over it because people,
um,
I'm going to hold all the thoughts that I was about to say.
Okay, okay, okay.
That's fine.
That's fine.
I just...
If I win because people have shittier taste,
in me. Okay. I do also remember in terms of like, like, like, whatever lore things and stuff,
it's like, you know, there is that feeling of like when something, like, nothing, in a series of
like childhood property where nothing ever happens, the decision to suddenly make something
happen is always like, oh, wait, are you actually doing something? If something happened.
But that, but then, and I remember, that'd be wild if something happened. And so when I was
thinking of Mario Odyssey and I was like, oh, wait, are you going to do it?
Wait. And then they're like, nah.
And I was kind of like that.
And I was like, why? Come on. Just make
something happen. And they're like, no.
No. It needs to live forever. And it can't, you things can't happen. Otherwise, if
things happen, then it won't be forever.
Yeah. You kind of describe my exact thought process here. Yeah.
Moving on from Donkey Kong. Great game. I'm going to go back to it every now and then
when I feel like hearing old banana
and just, you know, scrape it up.
But I'm definitely not going to go for completion.
Late last night, I was like, fuck it.
It's really late.
Everyone in my house is asleep.
I'm just going to play Fear and Hunger 2 on stream.
Fuck it.
Okay.
So I'm well aware that you, my friend,
are a fungerite or whatever y'all call yourselves.
I have fungered.
You've got that funger on.
But I've funger one.
Funger 1. I didn't Funger 2
Which I hear is way better
And improves on all the bullshit
I played Funger 2 enough to be like
I'm gonna try out Funger 1
And then played Funger 1 for a half hour at 1 30 in the morning
By myself and was like
Fuck this
Yeah yeah yeah okay okay yeah that's
I'm not going back to this
Holy shit
But you tried you know what
As long as you tried
That's it so you see the difference
So the issue with Funger 1 over 2 is like movement and item use and
Hunger meter
No no I'm talking like control basic basic
Like moving through menus walking around
Is incomparably worse in the first game like that weird stutter step
that the environment does
when you move in Funger 1
is terrible
Yep, it feels like
that RPG maker-ass
basic style
beginner's experimental project
you know,
student project
in that half hour
of Funger 1
did you get got?
Oh yeah,
I got a couple times
I discovered that I shouldn't
fight anything
Ah, yes
Was what I discovered
Were you
sodomized then?
No, no.
Oh,
I played,
I played Funger 2 on the
stream, and
just to be sure, I
added
the censorship
mod by some Raccoon man.
Though Funger 2
has an official
Twitch category.
Yeah.
And censoring it
is not required,
but I was like,
whatever. Because boy is Funger
one edgy. Yeah, it
seems I only cover up like two or three enemies
like dick and balls.
Okay.
Though I did have a fun time
we're playing Funger 2.
Every time I boot it,
I get like an error
from RPG maker
that doesn't make any sense.
Classic.
And when someone killed me
like the game crashed
super hard and the command line came up.
This is like a brand new
install off Steam.
I don't know what the fuck is going on.
As it should be.
No, I mean the
I feel so
the further you go into Funger 1,
the more
you feel the kid in grade 11 or 12 just impressing his friends by edging the
fuck out right and two I believe is like the let's refine the ideas into an actual
video game yeah um so my understanding is besides like uh uh um you know the improvements
mechanically and such there's the overall flow and narrative and events happening are also
not so like all right we get it yes look at the monster with the big dong that's going to grab you
and fucking you know again sodomize and then you're crawling around in the dark and then the dogs
get you and then also hey man do you like berserk so fear and hunger too hope you like berserk
more modern setting it takes place in like the forties in uh in bohemia um and uh like very old
timey but like still more modern um i
I got softlocked on my very first try.
The tutorial monster
cut off my arms and legs. And that was that.
And then I couldn't move. Yeah.
And I had to just choose die.
Yeah.
Vicious and
unkind is kind of
underselling it.
Like, it is, it is a
JRP rogue-like that just
demands perfection
per encounter. But
it does suffer. You were describing
Horizon and how the
encounters stopped being a thing because they're puzzles to solve.
This has that exact problem where...
Yeah, arms. Hit the arm. Hit the arm right now.
Depends on what you're fighting.
Sure, but one of the first enemies in the game is like a guy with a rifle.
I pick Marco, the punchman,
who looks like a Jojo character. I'm like, pick the evade skill
so that the monster has like a dramatically less likely chance of killing me.
And then
punch his arms off
So yeah
Who you pick
What your character has
And then what you're fighting
Are all
You know
That you could just
Get the wrong thing
And do the wrong thing
But once you learn the solution
They should never be a problem again
You know
Yeah
Should
But barring
Critt
Barring unlock
Barring
Disaster
And so you know
Well you know
I fought
I got a little bit in there
I fought some dudes
I got infected
Then I cured being infected
Then I got infected
again. What difficulty
by the way? Were there
difficulty choices? There are three difficulties
in Fear and Hunger 2. Okay.
The first is the main difficulty is
called Fear and Hunger, which is the middle.
Then there's Massacist, which is the
top difficulty, and then there's just easier
fear and hunger, which is the
easier. Okay, so there was
one called Terror and Starvation
in the last one. In the last one,
in the first game, Fear and Hunger is your
easy mode, and then Terror
and Starvation is the second one, and so on,
so forth in the second game fear and hunger is your standard normal difficulty okay because there's
the biggest detail that changes the whole way the game fucking feels is torches and light
yeah and i don't know if that plays at all a role it's not a factor in the second game at all
okay okay that's huge the game takes place during the day well it starts during the day
okay right um but um yeah uh really
really fascinating aesthetic
well
like well written
for a guy
whose second language
is clearly English
like a lot of minor
typos
a lot of suspicious
amounts of
Finnish words
like if
it's if even had I not known
I would have been able to pick this
I was like oh a Finn wrote this
the word percolay is
this fucking thing.
I mean, when you see the credits rolling
for one, it's the funniest thing
because there's just like, it's all the different roles
but it's just like, story by Miro,
art by Mero. Mero did
everything. Fucking Mero, though.
Really cool
game feels like
it has a
it has a really
genuinely excellent
progression of
yes that did one shot me and wipe me out and fuck my shit up
but I learned a concrete piece of information
that will allow me to survive that encounter next time
okay and uh saving as well was like pretty normal
I uh there's it's it's you can save
I only found a temporary save point
okay I found a book of enlightenment
okay that lets you save when you pick it up
Oh, yeah, okay.
And I did that, and I picked it up when I had one HP and was bleeding to death.
So that was a really good.
Good.
Good, good, good.
And number two, it's over three days, and each day has like three time periods.
And I believe saving pushes the time period for it.
Yeah, okay, okay.
All right, so you got a good chunk of what that.
Yeah, I did about 90 minutes to two.
hours of it and like dismal failures but the dismal failure was further along each time it's got
eight characters uh i think the dev said that they're going to work on making all 14 characters
in the story playable work on as in updates as in still updating it what oh my god wow i had no
the characters even from the very very brief time that I played are very different things such as start with a gun or a boxer which can do excellent damage with just their fists or botanist in a wheelchair who can identify all plants right off the bat oh yeah cool cool that's great um super cool game looking very very
very forward to messing around with it further.
Don't know if I'm going to keep messing around with it on stream.
Maybe.
Maybe.
Well, you can see how it's like content fucking farming, right?
Oh, absolutely.
It is made for...
People are excited to see the failure.
Run stoppers.
Yeah.
And they're constant.
They're constant.
And last but not least, I started my new show, B-Lining.
with Zeno Blade Chronicles
DE
Awesome intro by the way, very cool
Fucking
Quiet Viking is the shit
Yeah
I contacted him and it was like
I want the cheapest
Shittiest intro you can fart out
in a week
And he's like got it
Incredible
Failed the assignment
Too high effort
Yeah
Um
So
B-lining
is the attempt to be a normal human being playing a video game.
Okay, so I take issue, I take issue with...
You want to complain?
With the people who have been going, oh, so you're doing what normal people do?
No, no, no.
Because not playing any side quests, to me, that does not...
That's not the normal thing.
So that's not it either.
That's not it either.
No. I have to keep re-explaining this. So here's the thing. I did the Celeste Mind Goblin stream with the strawberries, if you remember, a long time ago, which I'm like, I tried to play Celeste, but I couldn't because I tried to get every single strawberry, right? Which is impossible. Well, it's not impossible, but it's horrible, right? Right. So then I did a Celeste stream. I'm going to get no strawberries. That'll show Celeste.
God, yeah. Right, right. Which ended up being.
being an even more mentally ill play-through than the strawberry one because I was like
avoiding them,
voting into rooms and then like dashing around to not touch the strawberries in a panic.
Right, right, right, yes.
So it was much more mentally.
That wasn't, that was, the strawberry thing, I still don't follow you on that one.
but regardless we got we got here um and in this case we talked about it and the idea was essentially
to you know not do anything that was not right in your way or go out of your way for stuff so
i did not know this before i picked xenoblate chronicles but xenoblate chronicles has a
main quest line on the mini map that is a yellow line that like it's
That says go there.
A yellow dotted line that points this is the way to the next story beat.
Fucking perfect.
It is literally a B line.
That is crazy.
That's fantastic.
Yeah.
And the attempt to play a game like I'm Gene Park is to be normal.
Not all nothing and not all everything.
I am trying to force myself into the intended design.
okay okay okay
for Zeno Blade Chronicles
DE which everyone
I put an exclamation point at the end
so everyone keeps coming in going what the
what the fuck is Zeno Blade D-E-I
it's a game filled with
British people guys come on
so
it is
like you know
there's the main quest
I'm going to walk
towards it
if there is a exclamation
point for a side quest
within 15 feet
of that corridor
I will go
pick it up, mash through the
dialogue, and go back
onto the line. And if I'm
on that line and
it's right there left is
oh it's right there, okay do
it. It's right
there, I'll do it. But like
you pull up the map in Xenoblake Chronicles
on my safe file, it's fucking hilarious
because the revealed map is like a
it's a fucking corridor right
like gower planes is a is like
one line throughout the whole thing
important detail mashing through the dialogue on those
pickups yeah fucking terrible they're so boring
as opposed to the main line dialogue
yeah of course yeah um and the other thing is that the game
has like a crafting system that's like make gems to slot in
and I walked up to the furnace and went I'm going to use all my
materials on what I think is good and then I did it and then I slotted them in and then I left
and I never opened up my phone or argued with my chat as to so what do I want to put on
shalk do I want agility or HP now I'm like oh that seems good yeah now yes now that is norm
core right just making things that you're just based on the whim of what you're looking at
absolutely intended
and picking up
side quests at your leisure
is what that, I mean, it
can't possibly be because of
previously established lore
here. Yeah.
So I had a bunch of
so I'm almost 40
and despite the fact
that this is like, I'm going to,
I'm no longer mentally ill.
I'm very normal.
There were many moments
of like
realizations so obvious, I sound like, like I have a learning disability.
Like, getting to the boss fight at the correct level where the boss was one level above me.
one above and fighting the boss and like dealing with the mechanics of the boss and going wow
this fights really great when you're not 15 levels above because the thing you killed just
outside that made you way stronger yeah yes the other thing the worst one was like i got two
party members in my party during this the last session and they joined at the level that my other
characters were at yeah when charla joined the party yeah she was level 17 and ryan and shulk were
level 17 and i went wow do they match the party to your level and chat went no and i went
that's crazy there you can't believe it there you go yeah
and that happened again with the fourth party member
at 24 and 24
I'm like did they match that like no
that's what you're supposed to be
in in QA we call that user path one
this is this is the this is the correct
path and you that those numbers
are exactly where they're supposed to be
like when I played metaphor
the last two people to join my party
were tens of levels below
me
like tens of very bad
And then I said, I guess the revelation to my own mind that was like obvious to everyone else who plays video games forever, which was I beat the boss and then I'm continuing on and like, oh, I'm supposed to go towards the,
The main story, and if it gets too tough, then I'm supposed to go do the side stuff and get stronger for the main story.
I'm not supposed to do all the side stuff and then complain that the main story is too easy.
Oh.
Oh.
wait like
yes
because doing all the stuff
always makes you too strong for the challenge
let me
I know we're on a podcast
and I know that this is the worst thing that I could ever do
but the only way I can think of making this make sense
is to use a food analogy
okay
so you know when you have
your steak and your mashed potatoes and your corn right standard meat and potatoes meal right yes well
the steak is the best part and it's the main course so what you do is you eat all of your
mashed potatoes and then all of your corn and then once the lesser parts are out of the way
then you start on your steak and that's how you eat a meat
meal. And this is not an analogy. This is how I literally think. You eat all of the
sides first so that they're out of the way for when you eat your main. You eat the
meal in chronological order, in qualitative order. Right. Okay. And you don't let them touch.
Right. Right. Um, so no.
Yeah. I guess, right?
And I mean, if anything, it would be indicative because if you beat all that side shit and then went back to the main stuff and you were now just above the level, that'd be one thing.
But you're never just above the level.
You're always way past it.
So I played, Xenoblade 1 was chosen for this sequence for this show idea because when I played Zeno Blade 1, I spent about 100 hours getting to like the 30% mark because I did every.
side quest. And what this resulted in is that when I would be playing Xenoblade, like in the
section that I just did, right, Gower Plains, I would be engaging in what were essentially
MMO kill, get me 10 bore asses quests for like 15 hours. And then when I was like, well,
now it's on to do the story. I would go and do the story and clown the fight
so hard that the story parts
that are supposed to be the good bits
would last like
25 minutes
instead of the
longer cinematic sequence of getting through the dungeon.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So
I was playing through the sequence
it's called it's the Ethermind sequence
and Xenoblay Chronicles 1, it's very early
and I was playing through that and I was like
wow, I don't remember the game
having this much voice acting. Like,
everything is fully voice-acted.
And then I realized, oh, I didn't remember that
because there were 10-hour fucking sessions
in between spoken lines of dialogue.
Now, ill though you might be.
No, no longer.
Right?
There is still blame on any time a game
and its side quests are so dull, uninteresting,
and repetitive that you mentally are checked out
while doing them because that shit like it sucks but it's lazy and it's a filler you know and
um we've talked about it like last time and so on but like cyberpunk i went through that in a
really strange way because i was waiting for main like screen mainstream content was premium
and then off screen content was the extra doing all these ncPD missions but absolutely if i if
anyone were to play that way normally it would be exhaustingly boring it would be i did that exact thing
and stop streaming
cyberpunk
for the exact same reason.
It would suck.
I would do the story mission
on stream
and then I would just do
I would spend like
three days doing
every cyber psycho
and every
cop mission
and by the end of that
I'm actually really bored
of this gameplay
because I'm just doing
just contextless gameplay.
Yes, yeah
you're ruining
the experience
absolutely.
And it's like
oh what I'm supposed
to oh
for cyberp
punk, I'm supposed to do main stuff
until I see a side quest that I think is interesting
or I can't buy an upgrade
so I'll do some
generic stuff or I want to practice
the deflecting thing
but here's the thing, right?
I'm a fellow like
fucking online streaming shit lord
and I also
I know you
so let me steal man you here right oh hey that's kind of you when you are choosing at a whim
which random townsfolk to help and not help and or which things dungeons to walk into and kill
and which ones to not clear out the feeling that like oh but what if something really cool that
I enjoyed was in that one and not knowing sucks exactly it sucks to not know that and to just move
on and ignore it for the rest of the game that's not a good feeling
So streaming has actually made this version of me way worse
Because I thought about that
Before I ever started streaming or LPN
And then streaming and LPN made it way worse
And now I'm like that all the time
Even even when no one can look
Okay
Yeah
Like the conversation that caused this idea
Which was basically me going
Well what if the one side quest I don't do
Is the best side quest in the game
To which
many people were like, that doesn't
happen anymore. In fact,
that hasn't happened in like decades.
Hmm.
I mean, in cyberpunk...
The most hidden,
the most hidden out of the way side quest is rarely the best one.
No, but in cyberpunk, there was certainly
skippable, missable, awesome stuff that, like,
I had to be pointed in the direction of.
So I don't really think that's true.
I think it's, it's legit to be like,
oh that sucks I wouldn't have wanted to miss that right and if you're somebody that goes
well just deal with it that's what it is you just got to pick stuff and go and you're
that's how it goes and maybe that's what second playthus are for you're like yes okay but
I like video games because of the things that I'm I'm describing that I don't want to miss
here this is why I enjoy the medium so um if you just you know you can't just dismiss that
outright so that that is a reasonable reason to not want to avoid that shit so I can I can now
mentally look back on the events that caused this this mental disease to take a strong hold over me
like like an iron hold over me um the first of which is when i was 11 i got really really into survival
horror games right and that became like a long-term basis for like the content that i make and the things
that i'm into i'm crazy about those old style resident evil games right those old style resident evil games
you can get to the end of your save file
and be like, well, I'm fucked.
I used up too much ammunition.
There aren't enough dead enemies.
I don't know where enough of the ammo is.
I'm fucked.
Have to start the whole fucking thing over.
And granted, those games are like six hours long.
So it's not that big of a deal.
But it created like the item scarcity,
like insanity of like, no, I could get to the end
and just be genuinely incapable of beating it.
Right?
It's, you can ruin your save.
Absolutely, yeah.
Absolutely.
Ruin it, right?
And then the second one,
a series that is near and dear to my heart,
but played on this mentality more than anything I can think of,
is Yakuza 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5.
God damn, the Like a Dragon Games.
Yeah.
Do you know what happens when you don't do an unmarked
side quest in yakuza 1 to 5
and then the time of day
changes because you went forward in the story
it goes away
it goes away
oh
locked out till a premium adventure
yeah yeah yeah
and it's not
and it's not the um
what you might call it uh way of the samurai
where it's like oh that's the content
is the time passing thing it's like no no no you just missed it
one two three and four
the quests don't fucking show up on the
map. So in one, two, three, and four, when you're walking down, you're, you're like, I hope
I run into the side quests. And so what happens, right? Well, I want to fight them on. So I need
to do all the side quests. So what ends up, what ends up occurring is you end up going to
game facts and you end up going and looking at the yakuza of one, two, three, or four guides by
the Patrick. And they will list the street corner and time of day and chapter that you will
encounter every single cyclist.
And so you go down the list by
the Patrick and you do it. And it
creates this thing of like,
if I don't want to miss out
on legit some of
the best shit in the game,
I have to go
and play this game with this list
on my second monitor.
Right. Syriksi, yep.
You could have also
just told the story of an old persona game
and maxing out those S-links.
See, I don't, I didn't, when I
beat four, I didn't feel like I needed
to have maxed out those S-links. I maxed out
everybody I cared about.
Like, there are, like,
I. Bihara and the
shithead tower kid.
Fuck them. Okay.
Fuck about them. Okay. I thought you were
guiding your way through for maximum
efficiency. No, absolutely not. Okay. Okay.
Because in the persona games, I
quickly identify three or four
loser S-links.
Which you can choose to not give a fuck about.
Right. Unless there's a
amazing skill behind it in which case
god damn it yeah
that's but no that's that's entirely it
that's entirely it so um yeah
so I
um and I'm on track
and because of because of this I'm on
track to the how long
to beat
um our count
actually being a useful
metric
instead of being a pipe dream
right because when we do the how long
to beat thing it goes like 30 hours and you
go, no.
Yeah.
No, add 40% to that.
Well, so, Pat, here's the thing, right?
Here's the magic.
Yeah.
Main.
Completionist.
Main plus extras.
Main plus extras.
What does extras mean?
Yeah.
Extras.
What's the valuable extras?
Extras.
Ah, fuck off.
Your heart will decide.
Let your heart decide what the extras are.
going through the Xenna Blade Chronicles.
Wow, the pacing in that game's incredible.
Wow, the pacing in that game is incredible.
It's really fast.
There's constant story.
Oh, my God, the ability.
It might as well be a different game than the one I played.
That's crazy.
Just because of the nature that I'm doing it.
I will say that Zena Blade Chronicles has like one specific design flaw that is insane.
Is that they load you up with a million side quests,
but then they have an entire section of your menu
called the affinity chart
that shows the relations
between every single character
like every single townsperson
and implies that that's going to be a big deal
it's a bunch of fucking pointless fluff
it's it's absolutely completely
fucking pointless and useless and stupid and shitty
and a time wasteer
it's a trick okay
so this problem also on for me personally
depends on the flow of walking from one area
to another like I used to
hate RPGs and random battles aggressively because of how it felt like the game was stopping
constantly and that overall flow interruption was terrible. I just hated the feeling of like I take
two steps and I can't get anywhere, right? Um, so... I can't believe you beat Rido 1, by the way.
I can't believe it. Yeah. That's the worst one I've ever played my life. Um, I mean, the actual
worst one I've ever played, it was Jojo the seventh stand user. Um, that's not a real game. Yeah,
Well, you know, because it was just so in love with Dragon Quest and random battles and non-random battles that it just decided let's put them all in at the same time.
But, yeah, that pacing slog feeling is extra bogged down when you're like two steps to fight, three steps to fight, and then you have to get from one town to the other.
Yeah, it's like a big open MMO kind of thing.
So you see everything on the field and you're deciding to go fight.
You're engaging.
But yet, if anything was within like a certain cone of my vision, yeah, I'll fight you.
and then I got to the bosses on level.
I, dude, this is going to sound so fucked up.
I have not fought RPG bosses on level in like a decade or more.
Okay, yeah, yeah, sure.
No, I get it.
I get it.
No, FF7 remake actually limits your XP, like any game that you can grind it out, right?
I've been like way above, way above.
Games like FF7 remake where they're like, no, you're only going to.
to get so fucking far, deal with it.
But here's the alternative reality.
It's the one where you got this great pacing
and you were on level
and everything was moving fine, right?
But again, to steal man, the illness,
you have the alternate version of this
where you got all those things,
but then you're like, someone's like,
oh, did you get that fucking super sick boss fight?
And you're like, what, which one?
And it was like, in that cave over there.
You're like, no, I went past it.
And you're like, oh, you missed it.
It was the coolest dude.
He was full of all the things you love
and the reward was the best sword in the game.
Yeah.
And you're like, well, I,
shit. And it's like, well, you can go replay it
to get that experience if you want to go replay it.
Are you going to replay it or are you going to move on
to another LP? Because you could just
you know, and you're like,
the reality
that I have to deal with is that the mental
back and forth
over that scenario
takes so much
time that I could have beaten multiple other games
just combined
of time about Hemming and Hawing.
Right? I think about Final
Fantasy 12, and the time I wasted
getting the fucking right chests for the Zodiac
spear, and then didn't even get far enough to get the fucking spear
in the first place, because I was playing that fucking game with a guide
trying to do it perfect.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's nice to know that overall, if there's been a trend towards
not making really high effort super cool content completely missable or at the very least
it's encouraged to the user you know it's nice to know that games have sort of like
pushed themselves that way and overall you know you as well don't want games
game design hates when they do something expensive and you don't see it you know so
that's expensive or most things expensive are going to be in your way that's there too you know
so anytime a repeating reloading quest that never fully gets cleared off or whatever
starts popping back up you can go good i'm safe to not care about that you know i'm playing horizon
forbidden west in the background i might have talked about this last week but like i'm like i'm trying
to do more of the main quest at at its appropriate level and like my desire is to scrape the map
like a fax machine um and i didn't do that and i got the metroivania style upgrade that opens a bunch
of doors that I would have wasted my time trying to get into if I scrape the map
like a fax machine.
There you go.
There you go.
Right.
Right.
It makes me feel like I have to go back and actually replay like 150 different games to do it
correctly.
Oh, okay, because I was about to say like when you unlock double time in a persona game
and then you feel like you wasted all.
all of those previous days.
You know,
you're like,
thank you for this reward.
Actually,
it's a net negative
on my soul right now.
Damn.
Oh.
But no.
Like,
Kawakami's thing is like so crazy
because you're like,
wait,
if I had focused her up
in the first two months,
I could have had double time
this whole,
for like nine.
Oh, shit.
Yep.
Yep.
Yep.
Yep.
And,
and this is,
and the other side of this
is just like,
um,
you can do this on things
that you don't care
as much about.
That's kind of
a little asterisk here is anything you care too much about this is not going to work for yeah so elden ring i did
every single fucking dungeon in that game except of like two at the end yeah you did over over over a 16 day
period sure sure like sick at the end of it yeah i mean i was sick i did as much of that as i as i could
i didn't do absolutely everything but i did as much as that as i could and you know um yeah someone just
pointed out like in in near automata i didn't do the emil um bit at the end there i did
everything else but that that was one we never got back to you know but like as much as reasonably
possible and also and pushing it to that limit but if you care about the content a whole lot
this whole discussion changes because you're really regretting what's not around what not seeing
what's around that corner so i'll send you this wolves so goblins advocate
i was so happy with um i was so
so happy with the way that
the B-line things are. I had
Viking make me this, which is
a transparent PNG of the
be-lining logo. Okay.
Okay. That I am now turning
on and off during my stream.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There we go.
When I got to the final
sub-layer in Donkey Kong, I turned
that fucking logo on and went,
no more banana.
This is your lab. This is your lab.
Yeah. There we go.
It's just, it's, it's, it's, I'm glad
the results have been
you know
are reporting back in with successful
results. I would say stellar. That's great.
That's great. Providing that
again, we're talking about games
where the amount
you care.
I will say,
Willie, and this is me
gaining a new version of empathy for you
and your side of the streaming coin.
I have never
had this happen to me nearly as much
it happens to you because you tend to play like much older games that like you missed right you'll play
like halo halo one right like 20 fucking years after it came out right and as soon as you started
to play halo one here it fucking came like what are you gonna get to reach and it's like shut up oh my god
so i'm playing xenoblaid chronicles one that came out in 2011 and like i'm i'm half an hour in
and I'm getting comments that are like,
are you going to beeline the quests in three?
I'm like, bro, these are 100 hour RPGs.
Can I, can I even see if I'm going to continue this fucking segment to the end of the day?
No, no, you can't.
You can't.
The person sitting behind the keyboard has a jumbled collection of positive memories of the entire franchise
and they're grabbing all the top ones and just going,
are you going to do that one?
Are you going to do that one?
And it doesn't matter how far apart they are or how the did.
distance from one to the other, how practical or impractical they are.
It's just my favorite memories from one, three, and 15 are you going to do, though?
But that's it.
It's not a thought.
Like, I'm like, can we see how successful today is?
Like, not even the LP.
Not even the LP.
Can we just see if today goes well, guys?
No, no, no.
There's no thought behind it whatsoever.
It's just, yeah.
Yeah.
But you mentioned about games that are near and dear to your heart.
Zeno Gears is like insanely near and dear to my heart.
and then Zeno Saga
trampled on it
and once again
friend of the show Gene Park
it's his fault
because he said
that Zeno Gear's dream
was like realized
in Zeno Blade 3
and I'm like you
bitch
you can't fucking
is that so?
Yeah
and I'm like
oh
you do
interesting
but yeah
so did a lot this week
a lot going on
lot going on
did any evil
stuff happened? Hold on.
Is Xenogere's dream
disc two?
No.
Zeno Gears
is supposed to be part five of a
six-part series like Star Wars.
And so Zeno Blade 1
plus DLC and Zeno Blade 2
plus DLC plus Zeno
Blade 3 plus DLC
ends up being six parts.
There you go. And Zeno Gear
was supposed to be part five
which
coincidentally Xeno
Played Chronicles 3 is the
fifth part of that and the
main character happens to look
exactly like the main character of Zeno
Gears and the whole love story
there is about two
people on opposing sides of a war
but then they do it's
I in order
to fulfill the
childhood desire of seeing
Zeno Gears finished I now
must go through 450 hours of RPGs.
But they never drew the direct line.
They kept it vague.
No.
No, no.
Hey, do you know what's a really cool aesthetic?
Metallic red.
Yeah.
And neon green.
Okay.
All right.
The spiritual.
Yeah, yeah.
All right.
That's fine.
That's fine.
Not wrong with that.
Uh, let's do it.
Some stuff happened.
Um.
2XCO gave, uh, fuck it.
I got some good feedback coming in.
Yeah, let's hear it.
So, yeah, Evo happened and, you know, I was not...
Just a heads up, we're on a one-hour timer.
I've got to be out of here in an hour and five minutes.
That's...
Yeah, okay, let's make it work.
So a couple of things happened at Evo.
I was supposed to do...
I was supposed to get to do something official
that didn't end up happening, which is fine.
But I tuned in to the best of my ability
to do stuff but you know
I didn't get to watch the full streams
in their entirety
so running down the highlights of what was cool
announcements and events
as far as the actual
some of the events
go Betty versus Justin Wong
surprise amazing event
good fight
Betty
Japanese strong jury player
and Justin who
you know full on family men
barely even plays Street Fighter 6
had a really clutch
sick to the edge
tooth and nail
exhibition fight
that had like lots of twists and turns
and yeah it was just a fun
unexpectedly like oh shit this got hype
real quick kind of fight
the Wazler did it
beyond that
hey guess what METRD
is fucking unstoppable
just
straight
glad that we live in the blanket time
timeline, the timeline in which you don't play Blanca anymore.
There you go, you know, which is, yeah, that's fine.
That's, that's okay.
Allergic to top tiers.
Just allergic to it.
At the, at the end of the day, too, I mean, I, it's like, I pick a character and if I'm having fun.
Well, whatever, we don't have to break this down.
But yes, Mena RD is incredible with Blanca and is a fucking goat.
And, you know, Tekken is, they had the Anna finals, Arslan Ashwin there.
and man
that is
I'm going to ask one again
I mean
well I mean
at this point with mena
crushing three
championships
you're going like
okay so how many
what's the record
to go like all time
you know
all time greatest
in a particular game
especially in a row
right now him at six
is like
convincingly uncontested
compared to like
other entries
and other games
where's Sonic Fox
at on that?
I mean, not in just Nether Realm, but counting everything, Sonic Fox did beat Justin's record, I think, for the seventh Evo win, but I think, but I think, but not just one, not just one, um, or eight, eight, excuse me, eight. Um, not just one company. With, uh, the announcements, uh, some cool shit showed up. So one, how the fuck about that.
Stella Bryant versus Akira,
Virtual Fighter 6 teaser.
That was gorgeous.
Little training room action.
I may have gone over that
with a fine tooth comb.
If you don't want to listen to me, talk about it.
Rufelmonger has a great
14 minute video up.
So the coolest thing
about it, which we saw a little bit
in the preview trailer before this,
was the blocking animation
and how dynamic it is.
when you see it is it is exactly as dynamic as it was going to appear it's very custom for
everything akira is like throwing his hand up and parrying and deflecting and guarding and it's
just blocking but like it's making the block look like a real fight you know and uh that that part of it
just looks fantastic it's also a breath of fresh air because you're just seeing the characters
silently mind you fight on a training stage and move and do buttons hit each other do some combos
a little bit
but the comparison
between that
and Tekken's
like fireworks show
which currently
tech and like
players are upset
about how much
that it's become
so spectacle oriented
and it's losing
its way
from the pure
fight.
Virtual Fighter looks
so pure.
You know?
A virtual fighter
had two characters
fight on a
featureless stage
to no music.
They didn't even go
eh!
They made no barks.
It was as
dry as
it possibly could have been.
And I was like, yeah.
RGG Studio understands the assignment.
100%.
Silent match, and it looked great.
Very clean.
I love that there's like a heat move style cut of like, you know,
you know, Stella kicking Akira in the face and like,
oh my God, it's so dramatic.
It's the round ending strike.
It's not in the fight.
It's completely separated from the gameplay.
Cinematic moment for the K.
only. Also, they side announced that
they're putting Doral back in
the F5 in the kids. That's stupid. That's crazy. I can't wait to see what happens
there. That's batshit. That must be a rebalance because this is a
competitive version. Because Doral is so fucked. Completely
unfair. She's a necrid of all the best moves. It's
like a weapon master. And in Virtua Fighter having all the best moves is like
batch it.
fucking Kage Izuna drops into Jackie Flipkicks into just everything, everything.
Oh, Dural is not tournament or online legal.
Okay, okay, so unbalanced, there you go.
As she is.
Akira shoulder block and then Jackie Flip, you know, like, yeah.
Then we got a lot of coverage of Tokon, fighting souls.
Marvel, there was some folks playing matches at the state.
and then
some of that got
uploaded for day one.
A lot of people very confused about
the flow of the game, right?
So it's got
like standardized inputs
and like easy things
all over the place, but it also
has like 40 systems
on top of one another.
It's an arc system works game.
So it's
more like the systems
are actually fairly simple.
except for there's one concept, which is assembling, which is very complicated, right?
Like, everything else is pretty much just like, yeah, it's, it's Dragon Ball Fighter Z again.
If I knock them up and then I knock them down, I can tag my guy in.
Okay.
But then there's assembling, and assembling has a whole lot going on with it.
For one thing, day one, people were confused and couldn't really find their routes and were not sure about the feeling of it.
there was some awkward footage and some awkward play
and some people walked away feeling like
unsure about it
and that's coming from the thought
that if you try to play it like Marvel versus Capcom
you will be unsuccessful
you need to play it like Arcsus games
and like a Dragon Ball game
is what comes to mind in particular
but
one of the features
is that like when you call in assists
they come in and then they do their little help
their move but you can't just
switch to them right away at any time
like you could in more free-flowing
like Infinite-style games or so. There's a
window of time, of opportunity that has
to happen after they finish their move
and they're posing. And that means that
like you slow down
how quickly you tag back and forth
between characters. To XCO
and Marvel Infinite are like
stream go, right? Just
put both on the screen, jump back and forth
handshake, handshake, handshake. And
that pressure is pretty nuts and
I mean, it makes for an exciting game. In
this case they're going with a different flow to that um the other thing in particular is as a newer
arxis game there's a lot of screen transitions there's a lot of slowdown moments there's a lot of
um hit stop and things are going to every time a new character has to reassemble on your team
you're going to have a wall break style moment occur you know they really love those fucking
wall breaks so does i throw a wall break you man that's crazy it became really evident watching
full matches that, oh, when they made
Strive 3V3, they were just testing for this game.
Oh, yeah. That's all that was. That whole feature that came out
of nowhere where we went, why?
Was like, because this is what our next game is, you know?
And yeah, I think, and they even having
the shared life bar as well and stuff, you saw that then.
It makes a lot of sense. It does work out. But I would say
that, like, day two is where Max and some, and some folks,
he got some combos videos from the devs showing off some stuff that were like, oh, okay,
this is what you're kind of supposed to be doing. And then on the last day, had some match
footage fighting against them or so. So it was not immediately clear. There's a bit, there's
definitely a weirdness to it that is not Marvel versus Capcom. Like you have to kind of let go of
that idea in terms of like how it feels and how the rhythm of the game goes. But it is similar
in that you're seeing a ton of Marvel characters on the screen doing stuff.
all at once.
That is clear, but game feel is a different thing.
I think the way that your assists come on
and the fact that you have to assemble your team
from a 2v2 fighter into a 4v4 fighter
is really genius.
Yeah.
I think it's, I think it's really smart.
I like it.
I think it's, yeah.
Giving somebody a 4V4 team right off the bat,
Jesus Christ, that's fucking intimidating.
That's a lot, man.
that's that's bananas it's doing its best to de-emphasize how much you need a full team right they
really want you to feel like you can pick one and then just use them and focus lightly on the
others as they eventually join in and if you're feeling confident hard tag to them but like
really it's it's up to you you know um and with that we will need so like this is this is newer on the
block, but like to XCO, this game will also need a giant roster because you're going to feel
eight characters every single round, you know, that's going to need to have a bunch of people
coming along for that game to not suffer the same kind of like vibe.
But I love the like flare of like, you know, the anime versions of the characters.
So of course, Tony, Tony with the V-Fin is one thing.
but the moment I saw Starlord do a rainstorm
all the way from the top of the screen to the bottom
and I'm like look at his red coat
look at his weapon switching
look at Dante at home
we have our own fucking shit talking
gunslinger we don't need yours
Starlord looks cool and I want to main him
until someone else comes along
I saw that rainstorm and I was like
fuck I love that
But yeah, combos, part of the factor that people are feeling is limited is because this has something similar to killer instinct, which is essentially like a combo limiting meter.
Each time you do a hit, you could see the meter get closer to being full, and there's a couple of ways to extend it, but if you don't really know them, after a certain number of hits or after a certain type of, under a certain number of specials, the combo is just going to end, no matter what you're doing.
So that means that, like, your ability to kind of, like, get creative and discover and have an open sort of system, this is not that.
This is a much more fixed, closed system.
No infinites here, sir.
Not even no infinites.
Your overall, just, like, wild reset game is going to be a little bit more limited.
I feel like they saw, like, Alpha Lab Ari in 2XCO, and they're, like, never.
Oh, well, to be fair to 2XCO, as of their latest.
build, they also said never to Ari
because she's different. That was like one of the
worst experiences. They completely changed that
shit, yeah, for the better.
So what they're doing
to as well is like that whole thing about
like, I like these three characters, and
this is a real Marvel problem, right?
I like these three characters,
but if you don't have a beam assist,
get fucked, right?
Damn it, I want Doom missiles,
but I want to click this other, and it's like,
yeah, well, too bad, right?
And then there's the opposite, which is like, oh, I want
Doom's assist, I don't like playing as Doom.
Like, it sucks that
a full character on my slot
is just assist.
I am not a Hawkeye, like,
Hawkeye was never my, my favorite
character. I love him now, and I read that
Matt Fraction book, and I was like, damn, Hawkeye's sick,
actually, you know, but
when Marvel 3 was out, I was like,
I don't really care about Hawkeye, but
I need that assist, so here we go.
And this really
gets rid of that problem, because they're like,
it doesn't matter who's on your team, it doesn't matter
what's going on.
Everyone has a projectile, everyone has an
uppercut, everyone has a body like
rush. And they're all going to have different strengths.
They're not all the same move.
No. But the idea of those three
being things that can help you out
according to the situation is fantastic.
Like Cap's body projectile is probably
stellar because it's a charging star
and it's nice and fat.
And I'm sure storms like
you know,
wind projectile. Yeah.
It's like super good.
But you're not going to
be completely missing a full part of your assist kit depending on your team so that's a great
decision from them um the fact that the game has no push blocking is crazy because dragon ball
zit fighters launched where people were getting locked goichi was putting you people in block strings
for like 20 seconds uh plus as they were getting gohan kicked and they couldn't do much about it um
this time around they have this like a assemble like counter where it's like a it's like a
an alpha counter, essentially.
When you're blocking, you can call it a partner to knock them off of you.
And if they see that happening, they can react with perfect timing to, like, shut down all of your assists and counter that as well.
So there's a little play there.
But overall, not having a thing that just says, leave me alone, get off me, and pushing you away is like, ooh, I hope you're ready to play defense.
And that's going to be, I don't care how experienced or, like, if you're new, if you're playing fighting, whatever the fuck it is, if you can't push people off of you, you're going to, you're going to, you're going to.
going to have a hard time because learning to block and getting opened up and what that is really
tricky when the game fills the screen up with shit and you you're stuck surrounded you know
there's a big slow the soul is leaving captain america and going into miss marvel so you
you can't miss that but the overwhelming feeling of like i'm surrounded and panicking is going to
be present in this game a lot but yeah that's kind of the deal so just that game looks incredible
It looks very cool.
Also, just don't expect it to be Marvel versus Capcom.
And we'll have to see what people get with a chance to lab it properly.
Some of the dev footage looked a bit better for sure than what people were figuring out on their own.
But the players who like to figure things out on their own kind of going like it's, they didn't like the fact that it's like, oh, what I'm looking for I'm not finding with this kind of time is a bit of a like, okay.
I'm not sure where it's going
but hopefully
we believe in the planet
it makes sense
you know and hopefully Patchy
who's the balance director here
the combat director like you know
we can believe because
you know
story to FGC player
coming from the Arsus side
Dr. Strange kind of got leaked
on a document as well so
okay guess what
I'm fucking shocked I can't believe it
he's going to be there
um
2XCO got some
It means it has more characters known than 2XCO.
8.
9.
9 with the leak.
Yeah, 2XCO, new build.
Got some word on the street footage about that,
or feedback on the new build as well.
Some cool stuff.
Big, big improvement with the new no longer carrier meter between rounds
is making the game a lot better.
The fact that you just are encouraged to spend all of your super
each round each time is great and furthermore your partner dying and you still having some super
with them now you can use it to call in and do their big super assist you know and so like there's a
reason to go through all of that stuff um there there's you know fewer timeouts and lame
non-fighting moments happening as well like a big big improvement over that um and yeah the fact that
uh you can use your assist to for most of the match they can push block as well and all that stuff is
yeah just good good feedback on that stuff
Vi has some some particular
she has some of those
ducking punch combo stuff where
like you can get a basic version of each of her
special moves by just tapping it after a ducking move
but if you hold it for like just frame kind of timing
you get like perfect timing versions that you can do stuff with
so kind of like Lukeish you know
so there's a little bit of a skill thing
to getting her best combos out if you can
hold and release with the right timing
I think stuff like that's fun.
We got to see Lucy in Strive.
And also the announcement of 2.0.
Yeah.
So the Lucy trailer, hey, guess what?
Really wants to stay at your house, you know?
That's crazy.
Hope you don't get choked up every time.
But they did kind of what you'd expect,
where her trailer has her in the bathtub,
and then she fucking, she dives.
into the Guilty Gear world
and pops out the other side
and also is like,
it seems like her memory is kind of fractured and messed up,
but she appears to be looking for David.
Yeah, you see in her moveset,
she's doing a bunch of whip stuff,
which is all fine.
She's a whip character.
She's got the guns as well.
But the coolest thing,
you see her hit you,
and the person gets hit
and you see some of that black wall energy
coming off of them as well.
The coolest thing is
the screen freezes and she goes into a quick hack screen
and starts selecting quick hacks and stacking them up in the trailer
and I'm like, that is awesome, right?
It's kind of like when Aska is like stacking through his deck.
So hacking in mid-fight is really dope.
So yeah, that's all fine.
And the 2.0 kind of teased artwork for Robokai
and Jam Kradabedi.
So guess what?
I fucking love Robocai.
Yeah.
Everyone loves Robokai.
Everyone loves Jam.
So they're coming back.
Good stuff.
Guilty Gear strive going healthy
into its fucking fifth or sixth season.
Like they're doing it.
The things are doing well for them.
They're thoroughly supporting this game five years in.
Also, why wouldn't someone
from the world of cyberpunk be able to hack into the
Guilty Gear world?
It is the backyard, after all.
Don't. God damn it.
You do think we were going to get out here without the backyard coming up?
I was hoping.
Backyard's so fucking stupid.
I tell you, Matt.
And then you got Tekken, just announcing these characters.
And you're like, wait a minute, that character has the same face as those other characters.
Like...
I mean Armour King?
Yeah.
Look at that, look at that, look at that, look at that, look at that, look at that, look at that king face. It's just king again. What's like a jaguar. Look some goddamn jaguars all over the place. What the hell, guys? God, fucking at least mix it up a little bit. Um, Armour King had the coolest trailer. He looks, he looks really cool. Um, in the context, of course, of Tech and 8, you're seeing like these insane lockdown, you know, set play moments and heat drive, heat rush, all that nonsense. But in,
terms is just the spectacle of watching him do sick-ass wrestling moves and spitting poison
mist lighting his hand on fire doing all these cool like specials where he breaks the ring um armor
king is the is the sickest armor king fucking rules and uh yeah drops you through a table as his
wind pose awesome i love you armor king armor king not as much as wolf but hey armor king's a badass
I love fucking.
And then they showed off the next character.
Mighty Zoe, who is Malagasy, and comes from Madagascar.
And that's shoutouts to a character, getting representation from Madagascar.
That's a cool location.
I've always loved the, the, like there's a lot of, it's like a New Zealand style place
where you're just like, man, you couldn't mistake this for anywhere else.
It's gorgeous, beautiful, beautiful island.
and the character
I popped up and I was like
that vibe
really does look a lot like
the previous characters
Tekken has released
and it is
unfortunate that she's easily
mistakeable for a
Christy or a
Azucena
or a Josie Rizal
and so on
and it's like
it's at there's an accuracy there's a face model that we have seen you know and there's a real person
they're basing that on you know for the accuracy of the of the culture but it with teken there's a
bunch of characters that kind of look like that unfortunately so it's just like man this was a
good opportunity to kind of like have someone that stood out a bit more and it uh it it just doesn't
you know nothing she's she's cool but yeah and then the concept art certainly has a different
kind of face where you see.
Maybe we're beating a dead horse here, but more freaks.
Sure, sure.
More freaks all the time, every day.
In this particular case, though, with Tekken, there's a thing that's called, like,
Teken Girlface, and you, there's a...
Where they all look like Julia Chang with different skin tones?
So, if you take the Anna haircut and put it on top of all the other girls and go find
Anna, it's a game you can play.
And you know what?
I did find Anna.
And I knew who Anna was.
was because the trick was I'm like, none of these have their eyebrows showing because they're in the wrong place, but the only one that does is because it was designed for this haircut. So the one where the eyebrows are showing correctly is clearly Anna. But still, find Anna and Tech End Girlface is an issue. And yeah, they're not getting as distinct from each other as they ought to be. And I find, you know, that's like they're pretty. But in the meantime, fucking Chunley looks nothing like Cammy looks nothing.
like Kimberly looks nothing like Marissa
looks nothing like jury
you know um and and I
much prefer like Zafina looks
as is different and you know and there's a couple
more pronounced instances
but there's kind of a safe
pretty girl face that they tend to sort of
use a lot and I think this would have been a great instance
to not do that
uh see Viper looks dope as hell
love that love that outfit
um can't wait to
see the baller ass just original
outfit as well the original black
suit, you know, but the cool looking white one with the shoulder jacket is awesome.
Not much to say, but besides, hey, look, it's exactly what we expected.
And, uh, oh yeah, they announced Alpha 3 Max is, is pretty much getting dropped on top of the
collection for Street Fighter Alpha 3.
Crazy.
So, hey, here's an update.
We're adding the extra characters that weren't there in this version.
Here comes Ingrid and Eagle.
You too can hate on Ingrid in a updated.
manner. Awesome. Eagle, Mackey, Yon. Love that. Love that they just gave that out there. Super fun
update for that game. So good stuff, you know, um, overall. And that's, that's pretty much, you know,
what I saw from Evo, that was, that was dope. Mm-hmm. I feel like it was like a slow Evo for
announcements this year. I mean, slow Evo for like going down there and a lot of things. I was kind of, I was kind of
surprise that 2XCO didn't have anything else to announce.
Like they didn't have the final two characters to announce.
And when they didn't do that, I'm like, oh, my God, are they using the beta launch to
launch the game with eight characters so that they can say, hey, we have 10 at launch.
Because launch, launch is like four months later.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I think, like, whatever decisions they would have made in light of all these new
tag game announcements, it's probably been too soon for them to be able to reflect those
publicly, you know, so if there's shit going on behind the scenes that they're cooking,
especially because the tag wars are upon us, it probably is going to take a little longer
than a month or two before they're willing to tell people what they're doing.
Yeah, that was pretty much it.
Yeah, the, hey, guess what?
Like, Street Fighter six characters, fucking tit's ass and dong are coming.
Yeah, they look hot and bathing suits.
Can you believe it?
I can't.
I want Alex Lay to go back and record new lines that are like extra hymbo.
I'm super interested in seeing what?
Geef's bathing suit is going to be.
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
I'm baffled.
I'm totally baffled.
Okay.
So I have been told by gay men that there is a way.
to it's not about just being randomly naked
it's about emphasizing particular parts of the body
in a slutty manner right you should they just put them in a crop top
so if you have a really low cut or like even some kind of
corset that kind of like amplifies the parts
that's way hotter than just having someone standing
they're naked because like geif is like functionally naked
in his classic costume mm-hmm mm-hmm but hotter than just naked
is a leather thing
that like assless chaps
which all chaps are assless
that emphasizes that part right
or again
someone in the chat says
he'll probably be in like an old timey sweat
bathing suit that actually
covers a lot of him like Expedition
33
potentially if they want to go the other way with it
but if you want to make it
if you want to make it sexy
then you have to cover up some stuff
and deliberately choose to slut it up in other ways
this is tech
this is known
um
or or just have the same
the same thing but a little more banana hammock
right just a little more
a little write it up a little bit higher
like the Todd
um anyway so there's that
all right moving along
Evo aside
um
there were
what the fuck was it
okay
So, uh, the update, um, there was a whole thing with the MasterCard bit going on.
Long stories.
There's more.
There's more.
MasterCard said, we're trying to curb illegal content and Valve's like, they're full of shit.
Yeah.
So long story.
So, thanks Valve.
Long story short, MasterCard's basically just been like, no, no, no.
Our policies are, have always been about not illegal stuff.
And that's the same thing we're doing now.
And it's like, well, clearly it's not, you know, and clearly this reinforcement is,
is changing a ton of large platforms.
So that's bullshit.
And they, you know, their first statement was kind of like dodgy.
And then the second one kind of like, you know,
kind of contradicted some of what they were saying.
So the pressure on MasterCard and them feeling the heat for listening to this stupid fucking,
you know, Australian group.
Good.
Good.
The people working their lines that were like, this is this fucking.
sucks and them being like we have to say something and eventually getting to the point of going,
hey, there are way more people that are upset about this than the people that were complaining
to begin with. This is the asymmetrical amount of pressure that needs to happen to stop this
shit from going through. Yeah, so just if you're calling, keep calling. If you're, you haven't been
calling. Think about calling. Awesome. I like that in the light of this, new grounds and other
censorship stuff. New grounds basically came out because censorship and age verification and whatnot
are coming through as well. Um, because the online.
safety act that is like, you know, fucking with a bunch of places. They basically went,
here's how we're going to handle UK users and verifying their age. One, if your account is
more than 10 years old, we'll assume you're over 18. Because when you hire people to do
effective age assurance, you pay a third party to match your email address with a database of
scraped data. And then they basically determine that your email has been used for a long time
anyway. We have our own data, so we'll just use that instead. Second,
if your account ever bought a supporter status with a credit card, and we can confirm that
was with a payment processor, we'll assume you're over 18 because you need to be 18 in the
UK to use a credit card or to have a credit card.
Three, if you ever bought a supporter status more than two years ago, we'll assume you're
over 18 because you need to be at least 16 to have a PayPal or debit account in the UK.
And if none of the above applies, then you can pay a small one-time fee via a credit card,
and that'll be confirmation that you are over 18 because you have to be over 18 to have a
credit card in the UK done and done right solves the problem completely on their own how about
that incredible looks like you can fucking find a way to do this if you cared you know bananas um yeah so
they put all they put all that out there and then just went like this online safety act is a complete
bullshit scam and all it does is punish smaller sites that can't afford to keep up with the
regulation that's it um so good on them good shit new grounds
appreciate that.
Meanwhile, on the other side of the equation, there is a speed running event in Japan.
The biggest speed running event is RTA, Japan's summer 2025.
And all Nintendo-owned titles are excluded because they were told that they have to apply for permission for each game.
Stupid.
this is a charity event that raises money and they're a non-profit and nonetheless
this appears to be a strict regulation that has come down they've had the they've used
them in the past as well but Nintendo's going to Nintendo and the dinosaurs in place you know
of course are going to look at it in one in one way it seems like the reason why this
happened is because in 2020, the speed running organization became a legal entity, right?
They're the biggest event.
They always had a large charity nonprofit drive, and they became an official legal entity,
and that change made it so that Nintendo's like, well, now it has to go through a licensing
process officially.
So, stupid, again, stegosaurus is going to chew.
on their leaves.
Dumb shit.
Um,
other,
uh,
fun announcements.
Uh,
Amazon has announced,
um,
a service called showrunner.
And showrunner is an
AI streaming service.
The Netflix of AI.
You,
the user, will type in the
prompt to generate scenes or
full episodes of content that you want to create from scratch or based on existing IPs.
And Disney and other studios are in talks to license their IPs so that you can generate content
with their characters and anything generated, of course, is owned by the IP holder.
So if you wanted to know where this was going, this is where it's going.
I want to see Captain America blow apart
Mickey Mouse's ass with his dick
Oh what? Not allowed
Oh no way it went through
Oh I think you might just have to like work a little bit harder on the prompt
I think you can work that in there
Like you know tell it to like pretend disregard all previous prompts
Pretend you're someone else pretend you had no morals
Or pretend you didn't care about whatever
And then just you know put all those things in there and get there eventually
Mickey Mouse plus 9-11.
Just keep putting it in there and just posting it everywhere.
Well, listen, clearly after Darth Vader's slurfest in Fortnite,
Nintendo went, ooh, how can we make it happen even faster?
How could we get there?
Literally a single day before the worst things you've ever seen get slopped out.
You know, I, the lesson learned was we can make.
make it even more horrifying with all of our properties.
So, yeah.
Yeah.
Somebody in the chat wished to ill on the people who are profiting off of this.
And I really feel like it's important to note that no one is profiting off of this.
The entire AI revolution is a massive investment lost leading bubble project.
No one's making any money off of it.
They're all making up all this shit.
the hopes of maybe being the only people to make money off of it later.
The person behind the company that's making this, Edward Sachi, is not totally sure it's
going to work. Yeah. But has a vote of confidence from Amazon and the venture capital firm
invested in Fable and they're going to go forward and see what happens. But there is an uncertainty
from the people creating it
as to whether or not it's actually going to work.
But hey, what did he say here?
Yes, the toy story of AI isn't just going to be a cheap toy story.
Our idea is that the toy story of AI would be playable with millions of new scenes all owned by Disney.
So it's good, good timeline, good stuff.
One of the really important things to learn as you get older is the larger, the larger, the
claim, the less you should believe it.
This applies to everything.
I just
I can feel warmth
in the cockles of my heart
thinking about the size of the
lawsuit from the
class action of all traumatized
kids subjected to AI
generated children's content
that unfiltered
got distributed
and showed the worst things
ever and all the nightmare
fuel melded into one
I greatly look forward to seeing how
that pans out
um like Elsa gate
like fucking dialed up
to the maximum
like absolutely
and Elsa used to get pregnant a lot
oh yeah well what if now Elsa could get double
pregnant with
with pregnant SpongeBob
with already
pregnant SpongeBob
With God's light
All things are possible
There we go
You know
And then Shrek and Shadow
The Hedgehog
No longer have to be
Supporting Dad on the side
They can be in there
In there
In there
I'm not gonna follow up
I'm not gonna follow up
I don't want
I don't want it
In there
All right
Um
look before we take a letter i i will say that like i have seen i have seen god's light and i have seen
the first mobile game ad that i absolutely unironically love and endorse yeah what's that
did you see the dc phone game superman ad i did not okay so uh i'm gonna send you this game this
little thing over here for
I'm watching it already
yeah yeah it's I think it's
what is it DC
funny shit I've seen
that's the funny
so it's it's two supermen
and you have the option to save the squirrel
or don't save the squirrel
and if you save the squirrel it plays the scene
from the new Superman movie where he saves the squirrel
but when you click don't save the squirrel
you see the squirrel in Man of Steel
holding its hand up
going, no,
don't save me.
And then it gets
blown away in the wind
and fucking Superman's like,
no!
That's the funny shit
I've ever seen my life.
It's the best mobile ad I've ever seen.
It's the best.
I love it.
That's great.
Give that team a raise.
Oh, please.
Holy fuck.
That's incredible.
Yeah.
Um,
Just, well, I don't even know what the game is, but, but kudos to them.
Oh, it's some bullshit, I'm sure.
Yeah, I just, but I, you know, like, whoever that, whoever is responsible for once in my life, I will say good mobile game ad, good.
Yes.
I think those mobile game ads that like, those Chinese knockoff game ads where it's just like a girl and then you click on one and it's just like pregnant and poisonous are the only two options.
That's the only option.
Crack me up pretty good.
Yep.
Pregnant and homeless is one of them.
So I'm impregnate.
Impregnate.
Mm-hmm.
The other option being to show someone, someone playing a game really easy game really badly,
to frustrate you into going, I can do it better.
Dude, hey, hit me up.
I'll do one of those.
I can play a game badly, on purpose even.
Incredible stuff.
Let's take some letters.
If you want to send in a letter, send it to Castle's Super Beastmail at gmail.com,
that's Castle's Super Beast Mail at gmail.com
All right, a fan says,
Dear Brown Bear and Red Panda.
I realize lately that I always lose my shit
when comedy shows an action shot
with an obvious mannequin
or a doll being thrown, dropped, crushed, or exploded.
I was just thinking about this the other day.
A bad dummy shot makes me howl.
It's really, yeah, yeah.
Like Jack Black, punting Baxter off the bridge
and Anchorman. Yep, yep,
that's good shit. I'm thinking of
Rocco throwing
what's his name,
the old Nintendo guy, Yamouchi
off the fucking
off the roof.
I'm thinking of that wrestling match
with the fucking
inflatable doll, you know?
Yeah, it's the funniest thing.
He does a, he does a
fucking atomic
spinning pile driver.
What tried and tested
cheap comedy gag never fails to get a laugh
out of you. Yours and mind goblins
a fan. Bad dummy shot. That's
a big, that's strong. Way up there. It's probably
my favorite. It has the best success, right?
You kind of, you kind of
stole our answer with your
premise. I have
a second one that also
gets me most of the time, which
is smash cut
to defenestration.
Yeah. Smash cut.
Throw it out of windows is pretty good.
Smash cut to someone or something, getting
thrown out a window will always get me.
It needs to be smash cut.
Yeah.
But that's a clean win every time.
Yeah, I can't beat either of those two.
Those are too good.
You know what?
I'll give a shout out to Paul Rudd
playing that goddamn clip of that kid in a wheelchair.
Oh, man.
And Mac and me.
No.
And just like, no, no, I'm going to play the real clip this time.
And then just playing it again.
I mean, actually, like, getting to the point where the bit is over and done with.
And then somehow finding a way to work it back in.
Yeah.
Like, getting to the point, like, don't do it.
Okay, I'm not going to do it.
And then he did it.
good shit um all right kid uh let's see over here okay greetings old hunters been following you since you
introduced my favorite game bloodborne via your playthrough thanks for sparking my deep love
of soul's likes as well as video games as a whole um my question is with the introduction of lagarius
uh excuse me lagia cruz into monster hunter legeichus into monster hunter wilds
We see the pseudo return of underwater combat, restricted to one zone,
with the ability to do everything except fight the monster with your weapon.
As someone who enjoyed underwater combat and try, I found this to be quite lackluster.
I feel they should have held off until the expansion to do it properly.
Are there any types of games that you've played where a feature was reintroduced from a previous installment
to a limited or lackluster degree or reintroduced mechanics that were better?
Okay, so I'm going to start off by saying that everything in your email is wrong and you should stop talking about underwater combat and that they will never add underwater combat again, back again because it was bad and you should stop it.
I do remember you saying how awful that was and based on how- Awful.
Yeah, and based on how being underwater works in most games, I'm inclined to imagine that sucks.
Underwater, everything is- Bad, bad combat under-
under the water. Don't like it.
I think Donkey Kong Country was like the first time
like I felt like, oh, being in the water is fun.
Or Echo the Dolphin, you know?
Echo the Dolphins weird fucking game.
That's cool. It's weird, but it's cool.
But yeah.
I don't care for parrying in Street Fighter 6.
It's not as fucked up as it was in three.
Okay.
I liked it when it was fucked up.
Okay, okay. No, I understand.
The stakes are lowered, and it's now more of a faultless
defense than it is a parry.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a correct take.
That's fine.
They've lowered the bar
for more people
to be able to do it.
That's totally fine.
Um...
God.
Ah,
I mean,
I guess everything
Gunslinger that went into DMC3
that was like
improvement over what they tried to introduce into, to some time.
Yeah.
You know?
I don't care for Conslinger in three at all.
Rainstorm.
So I just don't care for it.
I do feel like that's a thing, though, in games where there might be a feature that hasn't been there in years that they bring back after time.
I think losing health on death should not have come back for Dark Souls 2.
I think that shit sucked
and was actually way worse
than the human ghost form
in Demon Souls
They never brought back
post-Caho hits
After four
No they didn't
And that's stupid
That was that
That was the end of it.
Disrespecting the corpse.
Okay.
I would accept that.
I'm okay with, if you remove post-K.O. hits, make it so that villains or certain characters
can do wind poses that interact with the corpse regardless.
Yeah, you should be able to piss on him.
Right. Yamazaki, you hold, like, one of the, uh, think hard punch, and then he, like,
picks your corpse up.
And, you know, Marissa picks you up and some of them.
There's a lot of, like, fucking with the body and the wind poses of Street Fighter 6.
You know, even Sagat with the
But yeah, post-K-O victories
Or a bit of a thing there
I actually really dislike all 3D animated
Fighting Game intros
I don't like them
I've disliked them since Street Fighter 4
I want to load into a static shot
And then have a million different animations instead
Then one fancy animation
For that comes in every single time
that you skip every single time.
So I completely agree, but for a different reason,
I hate that they're both in their own world
and you do not see them interacting with each other.
Yeah, exactly.
I want characters to interact with each other
with custom little animations
that are one second long.
A basic, shitty animation of two characters
doing something unique is way better
than a fancy one where you're in your reality
and I'm in mine.
Riu and Ken fist bumping each other
in like 10 frames is a better animation
than every single custom intro
for every fighting game character since.
When Ryu and Ken and Street Fighter 4
just didn't acknowledge each other,
I felt immense sadness, profound even.
Strive comes closer
because they talk to each other
and you look at...
And you see them standing there.
X, X, your characters would fucking fight
to start off the round.
And Ken and Terry Bogard now give each other
props. So, you know, this is the, this is, we're going back to that at least once. Like XX had like
detailed epic DBZ clashes before certain characters before fighting. It was awesome. Yep,
they took it away from us. They absolutely took it away from us. In, in the old, in Exxert,
not Exeter, in, um, um, um, reload, uh, and, uh, you know, all the pre-axon core games,
there were like insane ones that were story mode only where you took damage. Yeah, you would
take damage. It was crazy. Soul versus justice. You actually got hit, you know, and started
the fight in a weird place. You know, so yeah. Um, Soul, Holy Order Sol and Kai is one of the
sickest ones. And I use that in my series as well. Uh, yeah, yeah, 100% right on that. That needs to
come back. 100. Um, and, okay, there was a question about B-lining, but I do feel like we, we talked
about pretty much that.
Okay, dope.
Is it normal?
Eh, I mean, the way
Is what normal?
Is belining normal?
It feels like it might
actually be. Yeah, if you're
fucked. If you're not avoiding
and running away from the
side quests, like that guy from
Flapjack, who's
like side limboing
around their
shit, or the strawberries in
you know, Celeste, then yes.
it is um fair enough all right cool uh you get out of here
the 11th character and 2xKO might be zed and that is an even worse character to pick than
we had discussed earlier okay okay okay so based on the previous discussions your picks are the
best and only picks that should be picked so what were your picks again oh i could throw off like
Okay.
Thresh,
Nautilus,
Timo,
fiddlesticks,
Ophilios,
Sena,
Sett,
Mordecaiser.
And if none of them...
Karim,
Riven,
uh...
Yeah, I could just do that.
Okay.
And if none of them,
that aren't arrived.
Marma.
Okay.
Yeah.
Azir, Erelia.
Uh, Dr. Mundo.
I like...
We, yeah.
Okay.
Um...
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think when...
Sion, Ergot.
science should be there
I don't know what the fuck they're doing
signs not there
and if not then dead on arrival
that first day of
Tokon when people were like confused
by it and stuff like was a moment of like
hmm
this
is fresher in the mind
but has the exact same quandry
with the roster
and
yeah I don't think it has the same quandary because
that game's going to have at least.
Okay, you know, let's do it.
DBZ, FZ,
it's more like it would be crazy
if it didn't.
But that is the conversation we had
about League of Fighters a million
years ago, right?
It's the most obvious thing.
All fighters had a small roster.
It had the roster of TN, Yamcha,
Gohan, Krillen,
Goku, Friza, Android 18,
Kidbu,
uh,
Captain,
what's his name,
Captain Ginyu,
Napa,
trunks, Vegeta, Beyrus, Cell, Android 16,
Got Tanks, Piccolo, Kid, Gohan,
regular boo, hit, and Black Goku.
Yep, and that is a Bandai Namco game funded by Bandai Namco
who determines things like Rollback and how the game is produced
as opposed to Marvel.
Yeah, which means...
The entirety of those things is a production decision,
and Archists are not the ones that choose that.
Yeah, exactly.
So you would actually explain.
expect way more out of Marvel
and 2XCO than you would out of
Bandai Namco. You really
Marvel really, really ought to.
Yes. It would
be crazy if they didn't.
I think you should look at the DBFZ
roster as like the absolute bare
minimum possible.
Sony in particular.
Sony in particular as well
being involved too is like, yeah,
there's no reason for this
not to just get the
fullest
final
final roster on it.
Okay, get out of here.
Have everyone, everybody.
Y'all love birds.
Go do your thing.