Castle Super Beast - CSB333: Skong Derangement Syndrome

Episode Date: August 13, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Thank you. Willie, I got smaller. You did. Hi. Hello. I'm not really sure how that happened. Your camera has zoomed out and now you are even tinier. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Hello. Hi. I am I am punching in. I am here. How are you doing? punching in on the clock I have showed up for work here I am can you see me am I here I can see you cool cool cool now if you want what you can do is just put a cardboard cut out in front of yourself like in front of the camera and then just sneak off no no no it's got to be life
Starting point is 00:01:22 size that's a little small I'll make it I'll just put it like right here and then I'll back away and then we got it. Yeah, just have a button on it that says fighting games. Done and done. Just dusted. Yep.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Apparently I am massively, massively desynced right now. That's all my existence turns out to be. Yeah, this happened last week, and I don't really know what to make of that, except... Because I can see myself in your Discord feed like a half second delayed. I can see you normal as usual,
Starting point is 00:01:57 and nothing has changed, there has been no delay, so I don't know what to make of that. Weird. That's so strange. Well, I am in the past. It is 1230. Is it so bad as to warrant killing this and restarting it?
Starting point is 00:02:16 Or is it fine? Dude, I don't fucking give him shit. Because literally nothing has changed, you know? Yeah. It's pretty bad, huh? Okay, all right. Let's kill. Let's just give up.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Let's just give up. Clock out. And, all right. All right. See you guys next week. It's clock out and we're done. I've arrived. I've punched in.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Time to punch out. I think we should force athletes to do drugs and kill each other. All right. I've done my piece. Fighting games. Ah, that would be a fighting game. That'd be a good one, too. No, I'm saying the line.
Starting point is 00:02:56 You said your line. And I got distracted And now we're good And now we're done Evo would be more fun If there was one guy Walking around Randomly jabbing participants
Starting point is 00:03:06 With performance enhancing drugs Which You are not disgusted by For some reason Well I'm not getting stabbed by drugs I'm not at Evo Oh okay Okay got it
Starting point is 00:03:19 See Right See It's about the threat And also What is the point Of not fighting to the death and
Starting point is 00:03:26 I don't know and so on it's I don't know I don't know what is the point of having fun and I don't know
Starting point is 00:03:37 I keep saying that and there was a huge there was a huge there was yeah there was there was like this is like the dumbest bit
Starting point is 00:03:47 pets ever done and I went into like 10 threads and it was like this is not a bit this is how I actually live life and I like I think if I had to like zoom out from and zoom out again and try to
Starting point is 00:04:07 understand because I'm just looking at even in that conversation I was like I don't understand is this a bit like where are we going with this and it took it took a while until eventually I think I got it but um yes there is there is fighting for fun and then there is fighting ghosts of the past. No, no, no, those are the same. No, but that's what I'm saying, but they're not. I'm not fighting ghosts of the past, Pat. No, and also not ghosts of the past.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Like, it's just fun. So I can actually skip like 10 minutes of this conversation. Okay. I actually skip like 15 minutes of this conversation and just skip right to the end. It's a language issue. That's all it is. So you guys announced that you were going to do a fight. And you posted, like, photos of you guys being all like, I'm fucking tough and sweaty and tattooed and shit.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Yeah. And it said, fight. Yeah. So it didn't say friendly, good-natured spar. It said, fight. Okay. Right? So, like, I described that if I were to do a fight where I would present myself to fight you, I would go out and do that.
Starting point is 00:05:25 stupid thing and then you would square up and then I would pull out pepper spray and just gas you right and go but we're having a fight now yeah I'm a YouTuber man like if you expected anything else you're insane I'm a fucking YouTuber dude all right let's fix this D-sync and come back in yeah let's do that all right all right hopefully that worked no I can't see you at all oh well yeah that swoops right there we go Um, hey, yeah, yeah, yeah, hopefully that worked. That, that should be fine. Um, yeah. Um, hmm. It did work. Cool. Great, great. Awesome. You're so smart. Amazing. I also figured out how to zoom myself back in, because I'm so smart. Yeah, if you use a, if you use the virtual camera, you get more control over your situation.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Yeah, I've never done that before. But now I realize that I have, like, more power than I ever had. Mm-hmm. But that, that, that, that, that, that, you know, that, that, you know, that, that, That's part of how you do, like, luts and funny, fancy lighting. And if you want to get your, if you want to get your pores in crisp, crisp detail. No, my pores are shit, dog. Which is why you need them in crisp detail. Yeah, but now I can be like, oh, I want to talk about this. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Hey, there you go. Let's just go full clown show on this. That's the benefit of having, yeah, the virtual camera. Absolutely. There you go. How's it going? So what's up, man? Yeah. You know, been keeping busy, obviously.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Before we continue, I should mention, you have to remember the personality of the guy who had that discussion with you is the same guy that like 10 years ago when I went to a party and some guy really didn't like me, I was like, I bet you can't knock me out in one punch
Starting point is 00:07:21 and then he tried and I didn't even fall down and I was like, look at this pussy. So, yeah. Like, that's my personality type. Right. Right. Like, again, fighting ghosts is a part of it, right? It is a part of what makes this cool,
Starting point is 00:07:41 but it is not the overwhelming majority of the fire that burns. But, uh, uh, uh, he couldn't kill me. That means I won. I mean, like the, The real thing is, like, if you do the shadow boxing, like, a part of, of practicing, are you envisioning somebody in particular? Are you envisioning yourself? Or you envisioning the final boss, which is your childhood self, that you want to beat the shit out of?
Starting point is 00:08:10 No, me, it's me. It's the little, little you from the past, because I'm going to fucking kill me. Yeah. So, hey, just to let you know, my wife says, I've never heard that story. It makes me love you more. see their correct decisions were made i'm glad there's a meeting of minds on this the correct decisions were made you wound up where you're supposed to be i remember when we were talking about jojo part four and i was like that's true love that's just true love and you were like having a meltdown
Starting point is 00:08:42 and i was getting texts on my phone that were like it's true love i can't i can't fucking coichi and absolute psychopath Oh, man. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Yep, yep, yep. Reggie once said red flags lead love to. They do. You know. Yeah. Just doing the fucking on the tar on the tarmac, just lining it up, you know. anyways i have an actual actual piece of red flag advice for people like as we're doing jokes about
Starting point is 00:09:29 red flags but people have had some red flags situations i lord knows i have lord knows you have um and somebody i remember reading that the phrase when you're looking back at your life with rose colored glasses all the red flags just look like flags yes right right yeah i've heard that i've heard that one before yeah yeah it's like oh wow That's so good Because you tell the story And you're like Ha ha ha funny story
Starting point is 00:09:55 And then around you Everyone's like Oh my god What And then Oh that's from the Bojack Horseman Right right right Right there you go
Starting point is 00:10:05 There you go Meanwhile Pages over here typing Hey As if she's not holding a red flag Like sin from Guilty Gear Just doing fucking She's kissing on a red flag
Starting point is 00:10:16 She's like Doing massive extension combos with it Spinning that shit around and doing flips. Come on. Come on, Paige. Like, Paige has this thing where I can't tell if when I do something stupid,
Starting point is 00:10:30 I'll get, like, praised or, like, finger wagged. Right, right, right. I can't tell if I can't tell if my wife would, like, cheer me on or shame me for hopping the Springfield gorge on a skateboard. I literally don't know until I hit the wall. because sometimes you are the bouquet of the Manzan comedy duo
Starting point is 00:10:56 and sometimes you're the other one so it's hard to say who's going to be the straight one and who's going to get hit with the big paper fan you know um anyway there's Abbott and there's Costello
Starting point is 00:11:10 inside you as both um what it's how you're holding up dude you're right in the you're right in the middle of the fucking yeah yeah yeah Yeah, yeah. Anything goes zone.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Yeah, you know, like when there's not much beyond just like keeping busy, doing stuff, you know, building, prepping, building, building, buying, putting things in places, finding out about a maximum odor defeating technology, certainly. Well, you can do what we did, which was catch COVID. Okay. Okay, there's that. right during during the worst of it couldn't smell a thing that's pretty sick okay okay when the color starts changing um but uh yeah no besides like you know diaper genies and stuff like that i'm also like getting i'm finding out about these carbon filters which like the fancier ones have where you put them put them around anywhere you put them in your gym bag put them wherever and they just
Starting point is 00:12:14 absorb and you're like okay cool let's let's defeat smell with that i have a question about the carbon filter when it absorbs it does that mean that it's now created like a one foot radius of a dude I think it's a neutralizing effect
Starting point is 00:12:30 I don't yes I don't think it absorbs it and hyper concentrates it fortunately not that is that would be absolutely psychotic and horrifying but no it's carbon
Starting point is 00:12:42 so it's going to neutralize it much like if you have activated you know charcoal and then it's good for about a month and then you just then you got to replace that bro we have gone around and round and round over the years and here we are back and activated charge basically basically but it turns out it's an actual thing that's built into the diaper garbage that you can buy right yeah but the one
Starting point is 00:13:09 that I have doesn't have it so I'm like okay well let me just go buy it on its own and stick it on the lid and see if that works um and there's some other tech I learned about which is like literally like doggy bags, just tossing in one of those sealing it's tight with the good smell and then putting that in your disposable. Exactly. And then you've got,
Starting point is 00:13:32 between that and the carbon filter, I'm like, oh yeah, we're going to kill all smells. So that is, yeah, what? I have seen.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Okay. All right. All right. Well, that's okay. No, that's fine. That's fine. Oh, Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:13:57 We got it. We got to. Oh, that's the best bit ever. I mean, look, we got to find out, right? And then we got to find out as the nature of the beast changes. Right? But at least initially, from what I've read online, it seems like between, you know, the genie, between carbon filters, between one of these little zip bag. or tie bags or so um it's a pretty good suppression tactic and I even saw one person say um if you're still getting a little bit that you don't want in there throw another carbon filter at the bottom so sand so carbon filter sandwich with with with with doggy bags and a genie containing it I mean that's a full army holding back you know that's fucking that's persona three right
Starting point is 00:14:49 there that is so you're definitely going to have some effectiveness just by throwing this much technology at it yeah yeah the the the actual like genuine threat is not that your system will fail the threat is where your system doesn't exist right right right right right right right yes yeah you're gonna that that that that's the actual all nightmares happen away from the home Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Someone said, never had a cat. I took care of my friend's kitten for a while back in the day, and the litter... Find a while.
Starting point is 00:15:29 About a month. Okay, that's a while. Yeah, that is a while. And the litter we had and the setup, like, did a really good job. Like... I'm going to tell you, man, cat chain ain't nothing. It was... Catching ain't nothing.
Starting point is 00:15:45 It was surprisingly not a problem. problem the entire time. I was definitely prepared for much worse, you know? Cat piss is the night. Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The... Cat piss is like a whole different fucking planet. Mm-hmm. The ammonia. Yeah. But yeah, we'll find out. We'll find out. Beyond that... I have a piece of advice for you coming in from Wifetime, specific to you. Not me. Not a threat with me. You need to have a set of
Starting point is 00:16:17 hair ties on you at all times, because you are in some dangle threat scenarios. So fortunately, I do have a set of hair ties on me at all times. It's called my, it's called my hair. Okay. Right. So that's the magic of my, of, of how this works, as I'm good to go. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Because you don't. I've been tying my hair with my hair for like the last 10 years. Now, this is definitely not a problem for me, for the most obvious reasons on God's green earth. Um, but, uh, that aside, um, yeah, I got, I guess got up to a couple things this week. So, um, the, uh, oh yeah, okay, so first off, there was a, uh, uh, sure meo music of, um, of PSD fame. He has a series called, uh, Pondering Spooky Tapes where we watch, uh, you,
Starting point is 00:17:17 where you watch like horror movies and do commentary on them. So I was on an episode of that, which comes out. Well, the commentary track is out, and then there's going to be a discussion of it. It's called, the movie I watch is called Hausa, which is a Japanese haunted house movie. And apparently was part of the inspiration for a clock tower. And a number of Japanese horror movies, it's fucking crazy. It is a wild ass. I want to say 70s haunted house horror movie from Japan.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Absurdest as fuck. 1977. The director was basically, yeah, making, he used to make romance movies and then wanted to make like a horror movies that woman would get into in the and then also based the scary parts on what made his little daughter scary afraid and
Starting point is 00:18:27 and just kind of like she's partially got a like I think it's a good system she's got a partial credit on the movie for like okay that's a really good system what was my kid afraid of probably immoral but hey she helped in production with stuff but yeah a gang of
Starting point is 00:18:43 gang of you know almost like Scooby-Doo gang of girls heads up to a haunted house and there's the fighting one who's called Kung Fu there's the one that's always daydreaming and everyone has their attributes or whatever
Starting point is 00:19:04 and then there's the one who is like slightly chubbier than the others and her name is Mack because she's called stomach because she's so huge and disgustingly fat and it's like Jesus Christ, Japan
Starting point is 00:19:22 fucking chill like 86 pounds I mean not even you know like it was like barely larger than the rest of the girls and it's just like okay that's what we're doing
Starting point is 00:19:36 um and uh yeah just really the fat will protect her from ghosts really like I mean you would hope but you know
Starting point is 00:19:51 we all know I would hope I hope well well you the order of events when it comes to kills of course you could always imagine
Starting point is 00:20:01 that someone like that doesn't get taken too seriously or like God get her off camera get her out of this movie as soon as possible Jesus now we can insert
Starting point is 00:20:14 fucking And, yeah, bullshit. Anyways, the, the, it's one of these wild-ass movies where it has, like, transitions that are spiral, zooms and Star Wars, like, clock wipes and just no adherence to traditional filmmaking. I don't think I've ever seen a wipe in anything but a George Lucas film for my entire life. And here, not only are we wiping and doing, again, like, like clock transitions. There's points where they want you to notice something on the screen. So they'll just do a spotlight, all dark, like circle on that thing, and then go back to full frame. You know, like, just experimental movie making at its, at its finest.
Starting point is 00:21:02 And sometimes it's incredibly beautiful. It works out really well. There's matte paintings that are, whoever is responsible for doing all the backgrounds is just so proud that they even got them drawing. behind scenes that didn't need it just because they wanted to flex their mat painting skills you know but yeah it's it was a wild and hilarious
Starting point is 00:21:24 ride very fun some some wipeouts some gruesome for for the kinds of things that like a kid was afraid of that then get turned into full production horror there are some horrendous kills when you think about them
Starting point is 00:21:41 for what they are you know stuff that I would say like stuff's kills that would make it into a saw movie but because this is the 70s it doesn't go anywhere near as like gruesome in and how the person getting killed reacts but the concept is the concept is absolutely saw level nightmarish
Starting point is 00:22:02 I just saw a piano based situation yes that's one of them there is a piano kill okay and it is it is not the simple drop a piano on you style kill It is the slow and horrible ground-up version of it. Yeah, it's wild. It gets real weird.
Starting point is 00:22:24 But, yeah, Housou, definitely, definitely a peak experimental bat-shit crazy-ass horror movie watch. And, yeah, a director who's coming at this from way outside, just trying shit out and nobody's telling them what to do and what not to do and how to make a scene transition. transition into another. There's a character in particular who has a aura of like romance movie only when you're standing five feet from around this one woman. Like the camera blurs, the wind starts blowing, music starts playing, the trees get brighter, but only when you're standing next to her and only when she's on camera. And anywhere else, it's like, nah, that's some other genre that's happening.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Evil cat, crazy shit. Check it out. Housu. So yeah, but the recording of that is, I think there's a dub track to play over the movie Watch Along, and then there's the actual podcast where we talked about it, and that was a good time. It was, yeah, Sirmia Music, Mandelor, Bren Daniel, and I Patch Wolf and myself jumped on there. what else did I do
Starting point is 00:23:43 I'll tell you what I did I fucking I fucking I downloaded that punishing gray raven is what I did oh my God and I went I went through that tutorial
Starting point is 00:23:58 is what I did oh yeah I was the only thing I wanted to know is like okay I'm going to get in a devilma and cry punishing gray raven and I'm like did they update the tutorial thing at all from like the 10 year old absolute pile of fucking shit that I played through just last year
Starting point is 00:24:12 and the answer is going to be no, isn't it? So when this got announced, I started checking it out out and I think I talked about it looking until before it came to North America. And then I saw oh shit, it's out. Okay, let's go see what's going on. And installed it and this is the most I've ever
Starting point is 00:24:28 like in Nikke, I kind of still read the text a bit. I completely ignored every single bit of dialogue. What about the punishing gray ravens? There's a virus. It's bad. That's it.
Starting point is 00:24:45 That's what I got. There is a bad virus. In the meantime, here's your wifus. You know, here's your husbandos. And yeah, then there's the Devil May Cry, you know, event. And those are really. once again, really good models. They did an incredible
Starting point is 00:25:12 job, faithful with that. Why, Wully? Because I don't care about that shit. That's why I'm here for Dante and Virgil. Fuck out of here. So, I I'm going to raise my hand. Yeah, yeah. This is something I genuinely, like
Starting point is 00:25:28 universally don't understand about the way certain people, and you're like a really good example of this, interact with crossover content in like in a side game. So I think about like the near raid, right? And I think about
Starting point is 00:25:44 this and that and it's like, yeah, get the shit out of my face. And when you're saying get the shit out of my face, it's like 99.9% of the total game. I want to get to this thing. But like, when you get to the thing, you still have to interact with it inside the context of the 99% of the shit
Starting point is 00:26:05 you don't give a fuck about. Yeah, I don't, yeah, I'm aware of that. that like inherently self-defeating? Not really, no. I can still get the character, try it out, see how it feels, see what's going on with it, and ultimately understand that I skipped past context, but
Starting point is 00:26:18 I'm just here to check out gameplay and see how that's doing, you know? Okay, so you're not getting in, you're just like, I want to touch Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I'm not getting in. See, now that makes more sense. Yes, yes. And in particular, what it's the type of crossover event that is like this with a gacha game, where you're like,
Starting point is 00:26:37 oh, it's going to be a event that's contained to a space that has a series of missions and a series of unlocks and things that are all and points based on this event. And then there's the other stuff that you can go select elsewhere. I can, it's easy to kind of like look at just the folder with the event going on and go like, yeah, I'm looking at this particular Devil May Cry themed content, you know, versus a game where the integration is much more in overlapped
Starting point is 00:27:06 and like, you know, if you kind of were like, I'm going to play Nocturn for Dante and only Dante, that would be, that'd be, that'd be pretty rough, you know, you'd have a hard time with that one, you know. I'm going to ask based off of completely having no knowledge whatsoever, in punishing Grey Ravens crossover with Devil May Cry characters with Dante, Dante and Virgil Virgil, Virgil, I think I saw that, um, can you kiss them? You can get your relationship
Starting point is 00:27:36 That's more than no That's more than no You can peck them And you can increase their relationship points To make them say nice things about you So you can get real close I don't think you I don't think Virgil would ever accept a kiss
Starting point is 00:27:54 But you can get real You can get in there You can get him to blush You can get him to kind of like Be a little shy And you can get him to pull out his poetry book read to you. Can you get him to do the caramel dance? Uh, damn devil trigger does? No, I don't. I didn't see that yet. I don't think so. Um,
Starting point is 00:28:15 and, but you can get that shot of him basically sitting on the chair and it's not the chair because it's just the Clyphod tree, but they've reshaped the Clyphod tree to look more like the chair. Are you serious? It's not the full shot. It's not the full chair of blocking his view. It's like it looks more like the lawn chair you know they're they're super aware the lawn chair has become so ever present that i've seen two different people become legitimately confused when they get to the end of the game because they're like what what where's his chair yeah exactly exactly um and he gets up and he does and he also does and it goes right into the the monster energy shot you know as well so they know what people want to see um
Starting point is 00:29:02 I'm surprised, I didn't see, with Dante, you know, it's not canon yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if we gave it a minute and we saw his, um, uh, uh, jujutsu Kaysen dance where he's fucking, you know, this one, and he's got the pizza, uh, uh, and then Virgil's like, ah, yeah, I bet you that's gonna become candid in a minute. Um, but anyways, so they, they have that integrated into the game. You can go, you can go unlock them and stuff. Um, so for Dante, you can, you can, play and then eventually unlock him after completing a certain mission for free and then for Virgil there's you got a you got a roll you got to take your chances get your your thing or whatever so I dolphined you know I dolphin all right I said you all right here let's let's let's let's let's let's let's see it I'm here for this I'm a tourist and I got him um and thankfully wasn't as bad as I was potentially expecting it could go
Starting point is 00:30:06 based on the numbers but I bought one of those it was I guess 40 USD collection gem sets and then got them in that got them in like the second roll or so and I was like okay cool done let's try this out
Starting point is 00:30:23 and it is really interesting to see the integration into how they make it work. So for one, I mentioned it before, but like this is really, really lovingly crafted in the sense that like they're clearly, this devil my cry has inspired a lot of these characters and stuff going on in this. And this is one of the games with a lot of Virgil daughters, so to speak. So they have made sure to, you know, want to do it as much justice as possible. And yeah, the line reads all the extra bits, everything they're saying. A lot of the little like lore things. These are all taking place in a context that's like post DMC
Starting point is 00:31:01 5, you know? So there are like line reads that are similar to stuff that was said in 5, but then tweaked with a little bit of like, but now that the game is over and we're here at the end, like I know this about myself or that about myself, you know, so it's kind of like treated as if it's happening after the game. Excuse me. Translating the characters into this, into the pGR system is really odd it's interesting because essentially you have um uh you know you have a ground dodge button then you have a ground attack button right for all your mobile like whatever uh and i did not play much punishing gray raven i remember anything yeah it's great well so treat it like any of these like mobile gotcha character action things you know where it's like you got a very
Starting point is 00:31:51 you got a stylish ground evade move you got a stylish hit this one button you're you got a stylish hit this one button to do combo thing and then you have abilities there's like usually four that you're going to kind of cycle through that are going to go up that are going to line up in your your like abilities queue and then you'll have like a big special you can do you know with a like I guess a trigger button or like on the phone or something else I I connected my controller to the phone to play you know which helps as well to be able to be like let's move around with a stick let's move around with a camera that shit on a PC client exactly I also loaded up the PC client and did that too So I tried phone.
Starting point is 00:32:27 I remember PGR's PC client was like, I technically live on PC. I'm still an unoptimized pile of shit. But here we go. Yeah, it had to download 40 gigs for some weird reason. I don't know what was going on. And then after that, it started up and then updated again. And then started up and then updated another.
Starting point is 00:32:46 It's very, very not well done. But once the game's playing and I'm like, okay, cool, this is fine. The only thing I was having issues with was the V6. think was like pretty terrible um but you and i was thinking i mean it's just a tiny little indie dev they can't be expected you'd think you think that's like it's like oh this thing that runs on the phone you know would would have less trouble in this situation but um in any case um converting the characters over is really interesting because um Virgil is three weapons right They've gotten more complex over time, but for the most part, you have your button to cycle through them, and then tapping that same button also does one of the key feature moves.
Starting point is 00:33:36 And you more or less have the kit translated over into a version of Virgil that has like a Beowulf button and then a Force Edge button or Mirage Edge button, you know, and then a Yamato button type of thing. and then Devil Trigger also acts as judgment cut end once you've popped and then you go into it as well so like they kind of put some multiple functions on the same thing but overall it works and then the fourth skill is jump or trick up right so this is not a game where people are really running around and jumping but for the Sparta Bros then yes
Starting point is 00:34:20 because that's part of their kit so that of course getting an airborne lets you modify the moves to get airborne versions of things and so on and so forth. So yeah, and I played a couple of the other characters in the game just to kind of get a base feeling for what was going on and how it translates over. And it was pretty
Starting point is 00:34:36 smartly done. All in all, you can do the Sun High Legend combo. You can do most of the swag things you would expect to be able to do with Virgil. You have to kind of put your brain into like a different place. It's almost like learning to use a different stick or something, but it's all very, very possible and really well implemented. In fact, yeah, Sun High did do the combo, did the version of combo, down to like the spinning
Starting point is 00:35:04 taunt juggling on ice ranc and everything, you know, and then you get to Dante, and it's like, I feel like Dante's harder to translate. Oh, man, Dante games like, look, man, we're going to. We're going to try, but just don't get mad, okay? I feel like there aren't enough buttons to even... Impossible. Even do sword master devil sword Sparta by itself. You cannot.
Starting point is 00:35:38 You just... Let alone. You can't do anything else. So you've got the Devil's Sword Sparta button. Sorry, Devil's Sword Dante button. And then you've got the... Like, there's no fuck style switching, right? you've got a like
Starting point is 00:35:53 you've got a essentially like his weapon and style locked together in one button that you can switch to you know and it's not like it's struggling it's basically like you press that and then
Starting point is 00:36:11 you'll you'll be doing the gun slinger ability with with the particular gun and that's all you're getting out of that you're not you're not getting any sort of like free switch or whatever the case is. It's a fraction of his kit
Starting point is 00:36:27 as you'd imagine. And I get it because I don't think the game is built for that too much. No, it's not. It's built for you to chill on the toilet with. Yeah. Yeah. They did what they could. And from checking out some of the other characters,
Starting point is 00:36:43 there's definitely characters that go through phases of having their kits change according to, you know, getting into certain states with them. Um, what were, yeah, there was one, uh, okay, yeah, so two of the ones I was looking at was, uh, like Watanabe Epitaph, who is somebody who does a bunch of stuff gets into one phase and then his whole kit changes. Um, and with Dante, you're like, yeah, that's his devil trigger. He already has that. So to then go do that extensively on each one, it was just, it doesn't, it doesn't, it's not, it's not the same Dante. It is, it is highly limited. But you can be stylish. You can do some stuff. Um, but for sure, Virgil fans are eating way, way. way better than uh anyone who's trying to pick dante in this game and similarly this is kind of how it was always going to have to go based on the limitations of a phone game i think so and similarly i think nero could also work as a simple move set character you know where like switching
Starting point is 00:37:39 arms is kind of like the most complex it would get but um dante just can't sword gun arm switch arm uh would be your buttons yeah yeah but i would also say that that like a group of devs that cared less about these characters would have tried way less as well. You know, this is a, this is an extremely reasonable compromise given that they could have just went like, look, man, you get one. Leave me alone, you know. I'm sure, I'm sure it's better than fucking pinnacle of combat, you know, by not switching off these things into 15 or 20 different Dantes to pick from, right? And then, yeah, you know, I've seen, I haven't done it a bunch of it, but there's definitely like, you know, hang out with them, pet them, feed them gifts, go into the tunnel of love, you know. I'm looking at screenshots of a Virgil actually sitting in the plastic lawn chair for realzies in chibi mode.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Okay, I didn't see that. I just saw the, the Clifod version. I'm also seeing some kind of pose builder where you can get the chair for your other characters. There you go. Which is fucking so stupid because like that chair has nothing to do. Don't they cry? No, they know. They know everything you want to see. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Even the fucking Dante slicking his hair back. The legend continues doing the doing the make fun of Virgil pose. He's even got that in there, you know. So, yeah, honestly, like, and I haven't gone through all the content, but just at the baseline level of just picking the characters and just trying them out and seeing what's going on. Pretty, pretty well done. And not to mention, of course, yeah, it's definitely one of these more stylish, you know, mobile gacha character action style things as well. Like, even though the baseline characters are doing cool stuff and it's, it, I can see why this and Zenless, you know, where we're getting recommended. um in particular here as well i think like there's like three or four different katana wielding judgment
Starting point is 00:39:56 cutting time slowing picks to go with virgil is like canonical despite the fact that nero is is you know here like like virgil's daughters have propagated amongst the the gatcha populace yeah it's a really really specific archetype Um, and I guess, you know, now that this is a, a metric that matters, taught from boot up to mash past all the daily screen poison is fairly, is quicker than other games have been. So I appreciate that I only get, you know, I don't know, 10 seconds of, yeah, than a full minute of it.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Um, so yeah, I'll go explore a little bit more of that. Those games would be really fun for me to play on my phone if I didn't have the brain disease that made them completely horrible for me in every single way. Didn't you get the, um, the phone controller back? No, not that brain disease. Oh. The brain disease of, oh, I never got that character. Oh, yeah. The brain disease that they built their entire, like, empires on.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Which is why being a tourist for this particular game works perfectly. because I can not give a fuck about whoever I missed after or before this. You know, I'm literally just here for this moment only. I played um, Umamusame for like two weekends and never spent a dime and was like, yeah, a fun horse game. And then dropped it because it wasn't activating my disease brain.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Ah, yeah. How about that? I think this, there's only one game I ever played for a really, really, really, really long time on my phone and fell good about it, and I never spent any money on it either, and it was Roontera. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:53 It was Legends of Rootera, the card game. Well, I was going to say the whole conversation about that game has been, like, look how generous it is, right? Yeah, and then that I went broke. But it's fucked up to say that, like, hey, this game you enjoyed is not being toxic enough to you. Therefore, you're not spending as much time and money on it. Hey, listen.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Encouraging the toxicity is wild, dude. Uh, um, there is a secondary part of that. this where it's like you there's there's a whole lot of language as well for these things which um is like i guess there's like weapons to unlock and stuff as well but ratings rankings duplicates you for every dante you get a second dante free or i'm like yeah i don't i don't how many horse cards you got bro i mean look if i can go into the mission and pick the one that i want and do the full moves then i'm good how many times you have to roll until dante'll play gougoo babies i think
Starting point is 00:42:47 think like five. Yeah, you gotta you gotta roll many Dantes for Gugu baby time. Yeah. No, it is, it is, I was, I'm happy that I was able to get exactly
Starting point is 00:42:59 what I wanted to fairly quickly and not, like, look at any of the other, the other things here, but I, seeing that there's like, oh,
Starting point is 00:43:08 here's the social lines if you want to go hang out and get all that dating stuff for you or whatever. Hang out. If you want all that dating stuff or whatever, it's like, it's like, yeah, with these two fucking goobers,
Starting point is 00:43:17 I kind of do I do want to see those lines These two massive losers Hanging out with each other Having their conversations and You know Them being all like Soon soon because it's like
Starting point is 00:43:31 I guess again like it's them basically Post hell being like Oh he's here too You know I don't know if it's part of news Of people are mentioning it in the chat Have you been following up on what's happening With P5X
Starting point is 00:43:44 No So did we talk about P5X at all? Yes, we talked about subway slamming, and then we talked about how the new writing team took over after that and hated everything that came before. Okay, and that's it, huh? Yep. Okay, so P5X is in the process of being actively destroyed by Sega and being run directly
Starting point is 00:44:12 into the ground to death. Why? so let's take umamusime right so umamusime released three four years ago right and uh they want to catch international people up so they're they are on an accelerated schedule right so events that were six weeks now they're four weeks that kind of thing but to compensate for that everybody's got like double experience double everything forever until it's caught up right p5x said hey so we're going to accelerate it super, super fast, but also we're going to cut all the free stuff you get in half or less. So your actual free-ass
Starting point is 00:44:54 purchasing power is like 20% of what it was because we want to drag as much money out of you as possible. But it's gotten even worse because they put out, oh God, the details are a little fuzzy,
Starting point is 00:45:12 but basically they put out a promotion where you'd get like, like a small catch-up item but the item would count towards your like weekly totals so if you accepted it at the beginning of the week you just couldn't earn anything in game at all okay Jesus Christ yeah like as we were just discussing
Starting point is 00:45:33 that exact FOMO toxicity button cranky no it's it's been run into the dirt and sales and all that shit are like down down down down down It will probably get canceled by the end of the year in all regions other than China, where the Chinese devs actually came out and said, that's not us doing it. It's Sega.
Starting point is 00:45:54 It's not us. We're still running the game of China. Man, anytime we have a conversation like this where there's a game with content and then the production filter that's put in front of the content for how it's drip-fed to you or how to make you feel about your ability to access it that just slimes up the entire process here is the most disgusting feeling shit ever, dude. Yeah, Sega's like, oh, we gotcha.
Starting point is 00:46:23 Let's get the Gatcha money. And instead of getting like five to 10 years of incredibly good Gatcha money from gambling addicts, they're going to burn their entire audience out in every country in the world other than China in like six months. Man. But is it that Bobby Codic school of like, burn it fast, hot
Starting point is 00:46:44 while you got it? No, it's not. No, it's not. It's, it's Sega school of, oh, how's it go? Now that we've killed the golden goose. Well, how's it go? Now the gold, how? Cutting the golden goose open to get the eggs faster? Yeah, basically.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Yeah, yeah. Well, that's what I meant. Well, that's Bobby. Now that we have these golden eggs, we don't have to worry about that goose anymore. Okay. Well, you know, the Codic school is, is the, is the, Like, we know that Guitar Hero has, like, minutes on the clock. So let's make five more of them to make people get extra sick and squeeze every drop of blood out of the stone. See, that's slightly different because at least those are separate things and you're saturating the market.
Starting point is 00:47:26 This one is like you're basically demanding that they pay you everything they have up front today. Like, this is like if Guitar Hero came out with six games in two months. and said Give it to us all now It's just crazy how like the actual game itself Has no part in this conversation whatsoever None None
Starting point is 00:47:52 Monetization's important How people actually spend money on their on their dollars In their video games I saw a stat today That the average person of the U.S. spends $325 on video games a year And 50% of that is microtransact sections. Oh, what?
Starting point is 00:48:15 Huh. So at 170, that's two games? Hold up, hold up. Is that also factoring in a upfront console purchase average, if that's a part of it at all? Or is this just not including consoles just...
Starting point is 00:48:29 I believe that is just in general. Okay. North American players spend an average of 325 on gaming annually, according, accounting for 28% of global spending. Okay. So yeah, that's probably phone only or steam only and
Starting point is 00:48:45 and... And for consoles... And half is micro. For consoles, if it's 325, split that in two, you got like, what, 160? You know what that is? Call of Duty? Madden. Plus cards and skins.
Starting point is 00:49:02 Or Super Robot Wars with the extra sounds and music. I don't think that represents a piece of this pie chart enough to show. Oh, yes, and the Fortnite, yeah. Oh, man. Right, right. Getting those Power Rangers going.
Starting point is 00:49:18 Though there is a stat, and this is from like the late 90s early aughts. So it may have changed up until then. Oh. But I remember it was going around. That's a fucking eon ago. Yeah, well, the core of it is a value, which is that approximately 10% of all game players represent 40% of all income in the game's business. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:49:44 Wales, I believe. Like you and me are doing our fair share. And even not whale, but like overall, yeah. Enthusiast, enthusiast is the word you're looking for. Sure, sure, monetizing the few, attracting the many. Yeah, that definitely makes sense. Enthusiasm. But I'd love to see what that turns into with,
Starting point is 00:50:08 the current state of Gatcha games and such like that. I saw, like, there was a thread on Steam community that was, like, Gatcha game player chart, like, it was just comparing all the rates and essentially... I believe it's, like, 5% whales, like 90% free players. That's higher than I thought. I would have put whales lower than that. I think it is like a one in ten are paying for the nine and ten situation for most catchers. I would have put whales below two if you asked me.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Yeah, even then, you know. Well, whale has like a range, right? Yes. What do you consider a whale? Sure. You consider a Saudi prince putting in 40K into Zenless zone zero? A whale? Yeah, obviously.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Do you consider... So is 40 bucks to 40,000 the dolphin then? Yeah. Is that the mid-range, you know? Yeah. Yeah. It's a very strange business. But no, I saw a thread that was basically like, it was for people who wanted to play a
Starting point is 00:51:16 Gatcha game, but didn't care what, and just wanted to know which had the best odds on it kind of thing. That's. And I was like, whoa, we're breaking it down like that. If you're just. That's weird. It was, yeah, it was just percentages and things like for like, oh, if you wanted this week, this event, this thing's going.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Jump in over here. if you want to get the best feeling pulls on this thing. That's fucking weird. Also, I guess this is my first time seeing something like this where there's like, hey, roll here to get Dante, roll here to get Virgil.
Starting point is 00:51:53 Right. And then, but then there's here's, roll here to get fate Dante or fate Virgil. And I was like, what's the deal with that? And it's like, it's the same thing. And when you click on them, it's the same think it's just the color changes a little bit. And then, like, look at Googling it, it seems like it's, um, whereas the normal version has a pity threshold, you hit, and then you get it after however many, right?
Starting point is 00:52:19 Um, the fate version gives you, instead of a zero point five chance to get like an S rank, um, and then a pity threshold far further in, you have a like 1.5 chance to get that S rank. but after the 80% threshold or so you are not guaranteed the pity the pity just increases the chance of getting the S rank but you can potentially go through an entire range of pity polls
Starting point is 00:52:50 and never get the actual pity. I bet you there are nerds who have run the math on this and discovered that it is a massive scam. Absolutely. It turns out it's a complete scam. because you have a... Even under the context of this scam. It's an even bigger scam.
Starting point is 00:53:12 It is insurance when you're at the dealer's table and you're about to watch them get blackjack and they're going, you want to put more money down? You want to lose a little bit more? Insurance, anybody? You know? A hundred percent. You're buying chance from the future
Starting point is 00:53:27 and pulling it forward to the front. but when chance fails you you get fucked even harder because now that guarantee is no longer a guarantee which means you can spend all that money or all those points and get nothing for it
Starting point is 00:53:44 and too bad go home you know absolute fucking crazy scam options there but yeah that's what's going on with that also try i think what was the other character lucia crimson weave is what i wrote down here which is another one of them she's doing judgment cuts it was it's stylish it's cool um
Starting point is 00:54:10 but uh this isn't a game to as well where like i think people were saying like yeah like toby came in um and then it took years for another shot at it and then there was a who is it there was a black rock shooter guest character that only came once and never showed up again So, yeah, with all these things, it's literally, it's like, try it now or forever hold your peace, you know. No, I have to, I have to give up. I have to get away. Can't do it. Can't do it. My brain won't allow it. It makes me sick and miserable. Even if you don't, like, if you, if you match the skip button, then you don't get the lock-in hooks that make you care, you know? The point of a game like that
Starting point is 00:54:55 Is to see an inventory screen with every square filled But there's 18,000 inventory screens in these things Like I guess I shouldn't play it Damn Anyway The implementation is nice Yeah I think you're allowed to do with training with them
Starting point is 00:55:16 For free even if you don't have them pulled Just to try them out anyway That's even worse Yeah. Because then you can realize that you'd be having lots of fun, but you're not. I will, I will, I will, I will say that my, the tone you're hearing is from somebody who got Virgil after two attempts at pulling. Yeah, but also you're mentally resilient in regards to these things in a way that I'm not. Like you just, I, well, I said to myself, I said, how much am I willing?
Starting point is 00:55:50 to spend to try this character out or to walk away from it forever and then and then be like on the go on the podcast and be like well tried 40 bucks and didn't give me shit that game sucks this could have been a completely different segment you know what I mean that's it well these games are bad I didn't even get Virgil um okay so beyond that uh the other thing I did was you sound like somebody who like like was offered a vial of heroin shot it in your arm got high and then the next day you were like
Starting point is 00:56:25 didn't care for it yeah yeah I mean so I've been I've been told about Coke that like because especially growing up
Starting point is 00:56:35 in a very like you know super like religious situation where you're just like scary drugs right I've been to the whole time I've been like oh you mean that crazy fucking thing
Starting point is 00:56:43 that picks you go wah and you're just you're like every movie and stuff and it's like actually no it turns out it's really simple and easy almost as like an extremely smooth cup of coffee. And because it's so smooth, that's why it's dangerous.
Starting point is 00:56:56 And you're like, uh, okay. So it's actually how easy it is to just be like, oh, let's do another bump, right? As opposed to the like movie montage of everything going in slow motion and, and what if I jumped into a big old snowbank of cocaine and died? Right. You're thinking Tony Montana when it turns out it's like, it's like, it's way milder than that. And the fact that it's mild is what's actually dangerous, you know?
Starting point is 00:57:20 Um, but yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, let me, let me, let me try that out, hit me up. Yep, all right, wasn't for me, you know, um, that's also the power of, of devil day cry, really, you know, um, all right, so what I, what I, what I also did was, I, I, I, I checked out that ninja guide in ragebound. Yeah, it's fucking good. It's excellent. It's super good. from the trailers I saw hey look it's a Sprite-based beautiful Ninja Guyton 2D game and I was like huh I haven't been that's one of those character action franchises that you know I haven't
Starting point is 00:58:02 I didn't get to touch really besides like doing a little bit of QA here and there you know it was always just like oh boy I don't know what's been going on with the Hayibusa lore turns out it doesn't fucking matter it's stupid as shit it's dumb as fuck dude turns out it doesn't matter
Starting point is 00:58:18 and what the only things I do know are like the old Nintendo games and it turns out this is basically just kind of remaking those not really it's its own original game but it's it's okay so Ninja Guidon
Starting point is 00:58:34 1 and Ninja Guyton Ragebound are happening simultaneously yes you're playing as Kenji and like you see Ryugo oh my dad's dad I gotta go to America Ninja Guideon 1
Starting point is 00:58:49 yeah he does does the same thing. He gets the sword. You see the whole. The intro plays out with Joe and everything. And da-da-da-da-da-da-uh. You know, it does the whole bit. And then you, he's like, oh, fuck. Dad's dead. Time to go to America. You stay here and take care of whatever's going on. And then, like, Kenji, the main character of Ragebound is like, this is what was happening during Ninja Guide in 1 for the Nintendo. You know? It's great. Great setup. Super cool. And then, yeah, you are also playing through a 2D side scroller where birds are fuck ass coming at you from off screen. Oh, it's so ridiculous. Shits jump in from bottom and top and you're crawling on the ceiling and you're crawling on the walls and you're doing Ninja Guide and shit, you know, in a much more beautiful sprite-based context. And a couple of just really, like, awesome things like the double jump is like a slash bounce off of the enemies and building up the, you know, charge slacks.
Starting point is 00:59:49 that one hit kills things and it's just a really really tight system um did you get um yeah how many levels did you get it did you get in did you got enough levels to get to the game's primary character switching gimmick awesome okay so yes you get you have two awesome you have two characters in here that are one character and uh a decent amount of like customizable ninja tools on two buttons, and then your basic jump and slash and dodge, et cetera, on your main buttons. Yeah, the game's quite short. I'm going to end up beating it tomorrow night on stream, probably. Okay. It's very, very short. Getting the blasphemous gang to do this was the right move.
Starting point is 01:00:32 Is that who did it? It's the blasphemous gang? Okay. Sick. Sick. Okay. Because, yeah, once I got to the, once I saw the flow, which is like, you can get charged up, you can charge up your, Hurt's you to do it, and you can one shot kill something. Or you can kill an enemy that's glowing blue, and then you'll get that same charge. But if you use your red tools to kill red things, you can also get that charge. And if you daisy chain red and blue kills. It's kind of like Icaruga. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:05 If you Icaruga five times by killing red things with a charged blue or blue things with a charged red, you build up these fire orbs, which lets you do supers and skills. and keep your combo going. And it has a really fun, like, just like momentum to that. It's been designed so that you're like, okay, if I want to S rank this level, I can come back through just like enemy step slash
Starting point is 01:01:26 off of everything and then start one shot killing things. And if I'm moving with the right level of speed and precision, I can make it just in enough time to one shot kill that big enemy and keep it moving, you know? And then as a secondary, the secondary character mechanic, that they have going there's these little side sections of the levels where
Starting point is 01:01:48 you switch to a second character and her stuff is like timed and it's much more skill based platforming and there's a lot of really cool like shoot your Koonai at that target to teleport to it kind of puzzle solving you know
Starting point is 01:02:05 fantastic stuff and I had a really strange because I didn't know about the character switching mechanic or character integration mechanic where she becomes like a move set added on top of Kenji. So I played through her levels and I'm like, this is so fucking weird
Starting point is 01:02:20 because she is just like the exact same character as Kenji just way better because all of her attacks arranged. Holy shit, that's so weird. Why did they make one character so much better? Oh, because it's half the game. Yeah. Okay, there it is. You're doing it
Starting point is 01:02:36 together, right? So, yeah, so Ragebound also has, well, one a fantastic results screen when you clear a mission and it shows you like oh you got s rank okay why did you get s rank well you collected all the things you kept the combo going you did it fast enough and then you completed the three challenges that were set for this mission um press why to break it down to see how much each of those things contributed to your score um and see just how shy you
Starting point is 01:03:10 you fell for like one or two of those particular things. And then you're like, you go to the shop where you can buy new weapons, new accessories, new supers, and new ways to spend your meter. And then it's like, or you can buy debuffs. And by buying the debuffs, it's like, okay, put this on. Every time you die, you don't start at a checkpoint. You start at the beginning of the stage. But this guarantees your rank goes up by one letter at the end.
Starting point is 01:03:40 right and then a bunch of shit like that's how i'm gonna get s ranks so you basically can stack the deck against you to make the game way harder but if you make it all the way through you basically guarantee that s you know um modifying difficulty via items you purchase that reward you with better ranking is a really that's great that's a really cool way to do it you know i think that game is super cool. Well, well designed. That's a fun way
Starting point is 01:04:14 to adapt difficulty. You know? And then, uh, what was the other bit with it? Oh yeah. Ninja Guy and Ragebound is, it's also just got,
Starting point is 01:04:27 well, you know, very short so far and like, yeah, I'm like, I feel like I'm getting through pretty far to, to beating it as well.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Um, boss fights. Oh, I played it for like an hour and a half and was like, I feel like I'm halfway through the fucking game. Okay. Like that game feels real short
Starting point is 01:04:42 There's some secret missions that come in on another menu too That are like extra challenging and have the harder stuff behind them But yeah And then you get some boss fights that are like Proper Ninja Guide and 2D Ness fucking boss fights Like Some shit where you're like Yeah you can scrape your way through this
Starting point is 01:05:00 And kind of you know Survive survive survive take a couple hits But that's going to take forever You want to live forever You want to fucking get in there you know and then like going in to do damage on the boss and like do it stylishly is going to take is going to take precision you know so like i love that as well where there's an element of it where you can you can bounce off of every projectile cut through almost any projectile bounce off of the bosses or the enemies at multiple points but um the screen will fill up with shit in certain instances and it's like you can wait for this long instance this long sequence to end or you could hurt yourself a little bit super slash super slash super slash that boss and like slam his ass against the wall and then just fucking wail on him you know so uh yeah like if you're or or otherwise basically go i'm if i'm gonna get hurt i'm gonna
Starting point is 01:05:50 subject my own damage to myself and use it to fucking crush this boss faster so um ninja guide and ragebound very very cool very cool i should mention that i got it for free they sent me a code okay um yeah i see um uh shinobe's also so on its way. The timing on that is ridiculous. It's pretty funny. It is pretty funny. We went for decades without this shit. And now it's like, hey, guess what?
Starting point is 01:06:16 Both them at the same time. Yeah. And I have, unfortunately, had to turn down an opportunity to check out Shinobi. But I'm... I hope there is a legally distinct Spider-Man in Shinobi. Fuck it. I'm down. I just remember, back in the day, that was the one on Genesis with the dog versus the
Starting point is 01:06:38 one that was on Nintendo, you know? And I was kind of like, what's what, like, these competing ninja games? Why is this a thing, you know? Because ninjas are cool, man. Yeah. And then, you know, and then once, you know, he came back with the really long scarf, I was like, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're going your own way with it.
Starting point is 01:06:55 Like, I appreciated that. But yeah, ragebound is fucking dope. And it's especially great if you're a fan of the Nintendo, Ninja Gadden games. I kind of wish there was a mode. I'm a fan of them in, like, spirit. That's what I'm saying. Well, so I hope I want there to be a mode when you beat this. That's like, when you leave the screen and turn around, enemies respawn.
Starting point is 01:07:23 I want a mode where that bird, like, as soon as you turn around and come back, it's like, kha, kha, kha, kha, horshit fucking spotting enemies. Yeah, good stuff, though, good stuff. Um, so that's about it, though. Um, go, go check that out. Go check out the, the, the, the, the, the PST episode as well. And, uh, check out the plushy. That's, uh, currently still available, too.
Starting point is 01:07:49 Where can people find you this week, Willie? At home in my basement. Fucking, putting stuffed animals up. All right. Where can people find you in an undisclosed, undisclosed, unclear period of weeks? Um Nowhere But if you want to go check out Other stuff
Starting point is 01:08:16 That's You know yeah Woolly versus on YouTube Where can people watch reruns There we go The best of Silent Hill For example You can catch over on
Starting point is 01:08:28 Woolley versus Yes That's where stuff's going on I suppose It's time for Pat's week Huh? What's happening? so i played a couple of games but fuck that i want to talk about something else so my little boys
Starting point is 01:08:45 two years old ish right he's a little older yeah uh and we're like you know what we're getting to the end of summer we don't want to miss the shot so we went and hung out with some friends of mine and um they live relatively close to a lake so we're like why don't we get everybody in the car and go down to the lake and throw on a little baby life jacket on the little baby and we put him in the lake and he can have a good experience with swimming with mom and dad. A body of water. The experience that I had
Starting point is 01:09:16 was swimming, which was being drowned by my neighbor. Not a good way to start that. Don't remember that one. Yeah, no, that, uh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Um, so we went down to the lake.
Starting point is 01:09:32 It was super hot. So that worked out really well. Got the man in his little swim trunk. you know got his little life jacket on it fit perfect it was awesome go down to the lake get his little feats wet right and he's like yeah I'm splashing I'm splashing I'm splashing I'm like I'm doing good dad things here I'm doing it go a little further into the lake you know when the water hits your junk and all of a sudden it's like oh didn't like it but after a little bit he's like okay I'm okay
Starting point is 01:10:04 and I'm like throwing up in the air and so he's getting dunked a little bit and he's like ha ha ha I'm laughing I'm laughing right and then mom comes out and she helps but then we're out there
Starting point is 01:10:16 and we're like relatively deep and he starts getting like really upset okay really upset okay okay yeah yeah yeah yeah and I'm like okay so I think he's afraid of the water because we're swimming now right we're holding the child and we're swimming
Starting point is 01:10:33 So what I'm going to do is I'm going to show him how not scary the water is and I'm going to go all the way into the water and I'm going to poke back up. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. So, so I go all the way into the water while Paige is holding the little man and I poke back up on the water
Starting point is 01:10:52 and I see my little dude pointing at me and just going, like just as loud as he can. Yeah, yeah, yeah. God damn. I'm, yeah, there's, you got, it's, you got to go slow. You got to really, really, really slowly integrate the water, you know, especially what it's like, full body of water in particular.
Starting point is 01:11:18 Yeah. I mean, as some, like, I was brought to the beach in Grenada every Saturday, basically. Like, for when I was, when I was there, we would go to church and then afterwards we'd go to the beach and, um, learned early, you know, about. the water and stuff, but I definitely remember the phases of being like, okay, I'm okay to go in and go further as long as I'm always looking at the beach. And as long as, and then like, then mom's right here. And then I remember like, okay, um, going under until I'm like, my eyes still need to be sticking out. I'm not okay to go under debt, you know, or even
Starting point is 01:11:55 opening your eyes took, took like a while for me to get okay with that. Um, but there's a whole point, even with the life jacket's on and stuff, there's a whole point where essentially like until you're able to float deliberately and keep yourself afloat and actually feel like you're controlling your, your agency or so, which turns out babies learn to do naturally in water, right? Like, humans are pretty good in the water, but until you have that, everything is terrifying, everything is scary. It's just like, you, like, the moment something doesn't work, it's like, it's an immediate panic mode, you know? Um, so, Yeah, yeah, you got to really ease that in.
Starting point is 01:12:33 And over the course of multiple sessions, too, yeah. We took him back to the beach and we're like, hey, you're okay? He was a little upset. And we're like, hey, you want to go back swimming? You would go, no. It was like, that's okay. But, and this is the important thing, we took him back, gave him a bath, and he had fun in the bath. So he wasn't like, oh, water.
Starting point is 01:12:53 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Didn't botch that shit. Yeah, yeah. Also of note, swimming around, there's other people. at the lake, right? And I see a couple show up with their child and I see what must be
Starting point is 01:13:08 the most miserable experience imaginable, which is guy is super ripped, mom is super ripped, child is normal child, walk up to the edge of the beach, pose, photo, photo, photo, dad, you come out, pose,
Starting point is 01:13:27 photo, photo, photo. hand the fucking I look like a three year old maybe four year old the phone mom and dad pose
Starting point is 01:13:39 pose oh god that's new and then they went and sat on their towels and I don't think they got into the water I don't think they got into the water I definitely didn't see the kid in the water once Instagram family and I'm just like I'm like in a bathing suit
Starting point is 01:13:58 I'm schlobbing out. And like Paige didn't have a bathing suit. So Paige just dove into the lake wearing her dress. She's like, I don't give a shit. Right? Man. And we're trying to do like baby memories over here. And I'm over here looking.
Starting point is 01:14:11 I'm like, oh my fucking God, you just came here to put it on Instagram and left. Okay. Like there was no, they got in earlier or they got in way later. I never saw them. I saw them arrive. I never saw them get into the water. They didn't get away. that sucks
Starting point is 01:14:30 influencer parents dear god that sucks brutal just miserable just awful I hate it I hate it the judgment
Starting point is 01:14:44 and like the judgment feels good because like I'm doing like even if I'm making mistakes I'm like I'm doing good dad stuff yeah and then I look over here and I'm like oh my fucking God you guys are just like yeah
Starting point is 01:14:58 You just built a selfie stick that can cry. There's a particular energy I'm being reminded of, which is kind of like a pool party on the block, right, in the hood where like basically like folks get together and everyone just puts on their nice outfit and just stands around the pool and just has a drink and just plays music and chills and no one gets in the pool. The pool is crowded and no one is in the water. I have not been to the hood version of that
Starting point is 01:15:29 But I have been to a very similar get together In which like It's a pool party and they're like Three under 10 year old children in the pool Surrounded by like 45 adults And I remember being one of those kids I mean like why did you got I remember thinking like why did the adults even come here
Starting point is 01:15:49 Yeah yeah yeah yeah It's just it's just to have it's just to have a get together But to do it's to have a cookout our barbecue type thing But with the pool as an accessory The pool is... When I hang out with people And get a little drunk I like to be near a violent drowning hazard
Starting point is 01:16:06 And you know how nice it looks When it's darker And there's cool lights coming from it And you're taking the selfie Right? The water glowing in the background Looks really cool You know, especially when no one's in it Fuck yeah
Starting point is 01:16:20 So lame Yeah No that shit sucks That shit sucks And obviously you know there's a whole other bit with like whether or not you get access to a pool and you learn how to swim to begin with
Starting point is 01:16:32 because it turns out that that was a shitty thing that a lot of people in the city didn't have the ability to learn to do. Not knowing how to swim is not good. No, but it's also gonna like depending on where you like do you live in a place where you're going to be in a body of water anytime soon so you'll probably get by
Starting point is 01:16:51 fine for most of your life without it you know, until a certain point. See, that's what people think, but bodies of water are everywhere. Even when you least expect it. Yeah. I mean, sometimes, yeah. Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely. Like, hey, did the fucking levees break?
Starting point is 01:17:10 Well, it turns out. The river looks a little high. Oh, oh, it looks close also. Hmm, that's moving really quickly. Yeah, no, for sure. Is your city built in a basin, you know? Um, yeah, no, I was, I was very, um, that's one thing else I'll give credit to Grenada for and I'm thankful for is like, I got very acquainted with water very quickly and, uh, then also
Starting point is 01:17:36 at summer camp too, like did the, like, um, lifeguard diving instruction things to like go down and like grab the rock and all that shit as well. And yeah, just learning to not be afraid in the water and how to move around and stuff like makes it a way more fun experience to do. But it takes a while to like integrate all that especially at a young age or so um and um it also helps if the beaches are very pretty and nice and the water is clear and like and it's not you know um some of the there's mud pit Canadian beaches that exist here where it's like man you tried this is technically a beach you've you dropped some dirt near some water and you kind of said yeah you can go in there it's not going to get you too sick
Starting point is 01:18:27 and called it a day fuck those things let's just go swim in the hudson uh but that was a fun little uh fun little experience had a good time wonderful cool cool uh as for games uh i continue to beeline xenoblade i have made it uh more than halfway through that game already which is fucking ridiculous it took me four streams to pass my old self from 2011, which is disgusting. Disgusting. Are you aware of or keeping track of,
Starting point is 01:19:01 like, things being missed at all? Yeah, more or less. Is that part of the data? The main thing is that Xenoblade has, like, a lot of, like, MMO-style quests about going to get bare-asses and exploring the environment. And so, like, when I pull up the map,
Starting point is 01:19:19 you can see the fog of war and where you haven't. Okay. Like shown it, and it's a fucking straight line. It, like, I have maps that look like lines. Because what I think will make be lighting even better is if there was like a spreadsheet that was just 15 rows of bare-ass collection missions to see how completely, to see how skippable and worthless those things are.
Starting point is 01:19:42 So I'm picking up every side quest. I'm not going out of my way to do any of them. So there is a big old list of just incomplete quests. Okay. you know that game rules I feel that game rules and is so so much more Zeno than I had originally thought it was that I could see
Starting point is 01:20:00 like a like a I could see had I actually played and beat this in 2011 it would have like shaped your taste my taste shaped your taste wow Zeno Blade 1 huh wow okay very weird great game what else
Starting point is 01:20:19 I haven't messed around with Sagat yet in 6, but I do have people on my blue sky timeline that are getting like insanely, insanely Sagat pissed off. Like, I don't think Sagat players are human, like levels of salty. And I'm like looking at that and I'm going like, I got to play Sagat. Are we just, some Sagat time in. Are we just returning to the 90s? Is this just people finding out about the 90s?
Starting point is 01:20:56 So like whenever, whenever I see somebody getting real mad at Sagat on my timeline, I just post a picture of a tiger and they don't like it, but I like it. I mean, just put the letter O in front of his name to fucking jump scare a boomer. you know like this is yeah guess what sagat has never been terrible he's always really good he's always been super super fucking good so sounds about right but i do but it is funny but it is interesting to note that like okay so you got to you got to catch word on the winds about about the salt uh you know the seeing um seeing as eleana i guess didn't uh didn't quite drum up as much so do you know
Starting point is 01:21:47 Elena didn't cause like hatred like Sagat did and the only other thing left is that so like Paige has actually been playing a lot of Fear and Hunger 2 she's actually streaming Fearing Hunger 2 in 2 hours if you're listening to this live she is attached to that game
Starting point is 01:22:05 very intensely and I was like well I played I played like an hour or two of Termina you know what I'm going to do I'm going to go back to play Fear and Hunger 1 because I don't want to miss out on that by playing a superior one. And the reality of that is that it's too late. Wait, you went back a second time? No, to Fear and Hunger One. Because, you know, we talked about that last week when, yeah, I did go back a second time. Okay, okay, okay. The answer is,
Starting point is 01:22:36 is like going back after touching Fear and Hunger 2 is, it's too late. Okay. Like, the main thing is that Fear and Hunger 1 feels like shit to play. Like moving around feels awful compared to the second game. So I would say with the interest of sampling, but knowing that you're going to tap out, there is a tap out point that you can, you can approach. And if you ever, if you ever were just like dicking around and because you also, it's also like restarting blind and going in a different direction and seeing what happens and getting lucky or whatever. But I would say that like in in in terms of just sampling the the flavors,
Starting point is 01:23:28 crow mauler is is the name of something you can encounter. And I would say that that's a good place to be like, okay, I see what this is offering. So I want to be really clear here. I am not talking about the gameplay systems. Or the look. Oh, you just, I'm talking about our PG maker walking around. I'm not being able to move diagonally and the way that the screen kind of stutters on every step. Oh, you could go diagonal and two? Yeah, dude. Oh, that's crazy.
Starting point is 01:23:56 Wow. Holy shit. I didn't know that. I'm used to fucking, yeah, I'm gridwalking over here. So, like, when I play one, every single step I take, I go, ugh. Like, literally moving the character. Which is like way, way harder for me to get over than, oh, you know, there's these obtuse. mechanics and
Starting point is 01:24:16 those, yeah. Interesting. And I don't like it when I complain about this and people go, but it's just an RPG maker game. So's the second one. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:27 It's just a better made RPG maker. Well, again, this is a student project. It is a student project which was submitted by Miro and then later on, hey, look, people liked it.
Starting point is 01:24:39 Let's make that again because Berserk is cool. Did Page TriFunger one at all? No. Okay. No, she's been diving deep on the Funger 2, which was really funny because she, uh, she accidentally cosplayed one of the characters. Like, one of the characters is a, is a redhead that wears a yellow jumpsuit.
Starting point is 01:25:01 Okay. Like, with suspenders. Okay. And Paige started up one of her, one of her streams where she's playing as that character wearing her yellow jumpsuit that she has, that she has. Cool. And I was like, did you do that on purpose? She's like, do what on purpose?
Starting point is 01:25:14 I'm like, okay. Whatever. Yeah. Yeah. No, that second game is way better. Yeah. That second game is way better. No, people are booting up that first one and going through it, especially for like a stream with the intent of like feeling, fighting against it and feeling its aggressive bullshit and against.
Starting point is 01:25:35 Oh, no, no. I want to fight against the game. I don't want to fight against the controls. But, but like that they become one in the same at certain point. There are navigation moments and things on the ground and traps and things to fall into and all kinds of... Yeah, no, the second one has all those things as well. It just controls better. That's it. Well, and in this case, you're like, you're moving on a grid and things are coming up behind you and you just got to make sure you move on a grid.
Starting point is 01:26:09 And in some instances, it doesn't, like, it's not a timing that matters. It's more precision. so it's like you can move cardinal directions to get through this puzzle or struggle or whatever the case is you'll take your time but you're just going to make sure that you stick to four directions you know what hold on a second
Starting point is 01:26:26 I have somebody in the chat say I think there's a mod that changes the movement to feel more like two Wow send me that on blue sky and I will install it and give it another shot huh I wonder how that would affect
Starting point is 01:26:41 certain areas because there's some there's a lot of stuff that like is moving diagonal anyway I don't know I don't know how the there's also a run button in Termina oh there's a run there's a run ability in
Starting point is 01:26:56 Funger 1 but you have to either have a character that has it or gain it oh yeah and there's also a character um it's a character in Funger 2 that has a wheelchair and so if you encounter
Starting point is 01:27:12 stairs You have to hit C to get out of your wheelchair to crawl up the stairs. I mean, in this game, you can have no legs and crawl. In Funger 1, you can crawl around, you know, and just have to do it with a slow way. And that's kind of dog shit, but there you are. Interesting. Okay. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:31 And somebody mentioned it. I forgot that I talked about it. I went back to Dragon Quest 11 because I never got very far in that game at all. and as I was playing it and having a really good time and just like I'm playing it like four or five years later and I'm playing it like a dad
Starting point is 01:27:51 instead of like a gamer if that makes any sense like I'm taking way longer and just chilling the fuck out and it's very nice and as I was playing it I could feel the emotional beginning
Starting point is 01:28:07 of the most annoying take possible with the shittiest discourse ever and it was man it'd be really cool if Final Fantasy made an old style
Starting point is 01:28:24 game that but that was new I would really like that if they just made a new Final Fantasy 5, 6 or 9 that would be really cool if they did that
Starting point is 01:28:37 oh boy Yep, yep, yep. Well, you know, we live in a world with remake fucking 16 and Clare Obscure. So take your pick. Go in the direction you want to go in. Or the full-on, yeah. I want the version of the game where it says Final Fantasy on it, and it looks like a new version of the old game, but it's just...
Starting point is 01:29:04 I can get you the one that doesn't say Final Fantasy on it. No. Well... So I decide. I brought that up and then I got into the horrible bloodstained discussion
Starting point is 01:29:15 which is like Bloodstain's cool but got no Dracula Mm-hmm Mm-hmm Octopath Traveler and so on Octopath Traveler is not
Starting point is 01:29:24 a goddamn Final Fantasy game That is a saga game Um And you know When I played I mean when I played that Pixel remaster of six I thought that was pretty well done
Starting point is 01:29:35 You know That was cool They should make another one of those That's what I think Yeah, I just, I don't I don't imagine Square goes the path of like Mega Man 9 and 10 on this
Starting point is 01:29:47 You know Yeah Even though Yeah That you know If I could think about Mega Man 9 10 and 11 I can think
Starting point is 01:29:56 Wow those games were absolutely Incredible Good thing they didn't keep making those Because I had a really A lot of fun playing them And really enjoyed them a lot imagine this timeline where they made a numbered like retro style ff game and it was amazing and everything was about it was great but simply due to the times that we live in it ends up being a complete flop right yeah like how depressing would that be that'd be extraordinarily depressing i really don't think that would happen but that's just my own i think i think i i think you
Starting point is 01:30:35 To everyone saying that Bravely Default is a Final Fantasy game, it's not. It's literally not. Don't stop. Stop. Stop it. I think the way they'd get away with it is if they basically made two numbers at the same time. And then just went, we're going to sacrifice one on this. I mean, they're already doing that, aren't they? Yeah, yeah, kind of. They did 60, and they did remake and remake two.
Starting point is 01:30:54 Yeah, and like, you know, and here's the one for people with taste that can appreciate quality. And here's the other one, that is the slop that, you know, we, but it's expensive quintuple-A slop. I don't want to get too deep into it because it's the most frustrating thing at all but people saying that Bravely Default is a Final Fantasy game
Starting point is 01:31:15 because it has the subtitle Flying Fairy didn't get far enough into that game to realize just how stupid that very very very specific point is I can't say anymore without spoiling a bunch of stuff I always thought that that specific argument is like the dumbest thing conceivable.
Starting point is 01:31:38 What little I know, I do know that like the name of the game based on the way that its whole job system works is distinctly what makes it unique and not a Final Fantasy game, right? I can't. Okay, all right, all right, all right.
Starting point is 01:31:53 We dance, we dance. Well, anyway, um, uh, uh, uh, uh, um, yeah. That's, that's, that's, that's, that's fine. Uh, if you want to see more stuff from Pat, Pat this coming week you can go down to Twitch.tv
Starting point is 01:32:08 slash Pat Stairs at. I'll be playing ragebound more B-lining Xenoblade and then on Saturday I'm going to be starting a new segment that people kept asking me about called a link to the Pats where I will be playing games
Starting point is 01:32:25 from 15 to 20 years ago and I'm going to do that goddamn Rocket Night Adventures LP that I never got to do. Not Spark I can't have that conversation again. I wasn't going to ask about Sparkster.
Starting point is 01:32:40 I was going to inquire where you track down the Xbox Live Arcade game. That's fucking, oh, wow, that's, wow, you were ready. That's a feat. You were ready. We don't talk about that thing. That one got memory hold. That got memory hold. I got to say, dude, I saw it look bad.
Starting point is 01:33:02 and then I just never even followed up on it at all after it came out like I just kind of pretended it didn't come out and just ignored it completely I want to Is it even really bad or is it just like Oh it's terrible
Starting point is 01:33:18 It's terrible, it's terrible Yeah, yeah, yeah, no no I want to say I actually booted it up And went in, yeah, yeah, yeah, no Yeah for sure Fuck Um
Starting point is 01:33:25 Hmm All right Well, all right Well, yeah look forward to that And that's it for me Um, unless, uh, do you have this 2XCO interview from your gamer on here? Uh, I, yeah, I do. Um, I, I, like, until the game launches, there's not much else to say, really, but they, oh, I don't want to talk about the game. I want to talk about the interview. But I did notice
Starting point is 01:33:49 that the term freaky pick came up. The wording of freaky pick came up and I'm like, huh. Yeah, we talk about freak picks. Yeah, we're talking about freak pits. That's cool. I want to give a shout out. I don't even care about the content of the article. I want to give a shout out to Connor McCar, the staff writer over at Eurogamer, who has done my favorite interview
Starting point is 01:34:14 I've ever seen with a fighting game dev in which he interviewed Tom Cannon and Sean Rivera separately, and then like just combine the answers, in which he asked them eight times in a row yo, why is your roster so shit? I mean,
Starting point is 01:34:31 that's every single time like it's why did the team pick I would say not worded exactly like that but the questioning the source of the question being like how did you pick what you picked what did you pick them what's to be expected
Starting point is 01:34:51 right the picks of and then like what are we looking what are we looking at when it comes to future character picks what are we coming what are we getting robots are we getting freak picks what's coming did you pick the character characters because they're popular. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Is that why you pick them?
Starting point is 01:35:05 And, um, and it sounds like freak-picks incoming, uh, eventually. It's very interesting to see, finally someone got them to actually say, well, there's wizards and yordels and monsters. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And robots, we could put all sorts of things in here. The, the, the, the, uh, it sounds like freak, freak pick, freak picks incoming, uh, over time, eventually. So, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's,
Starting point is 01:35:31 the deal. I fucking love that interview. I absolutely love it. I'm so glad. I want to fucking play more, really. I don't. Until they add
Starting point is 01:35:47 a fucking character I really would like to play as, please. Yeah. Like I got my entire fill out of Darius and I'llawi in the closed album. We're doing it. We're doing it. We're doing it
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Starting point is 01:47:10 Yeah, we're... So when is that stupid museum thing going to happen with Skong? I don't know, but they actually have to do. Gamescom is supposed to be when things are occurring, right? I've woken up twice at five in the morning over the past two weeks, just in case Skong. Don't do that. But, Wully, but if there is Skong, it will be in the one I miss. Just don't.
Starting point is 01:47:43 Just stop. It's... Wully? Let the ghost disappear. It's fun. No. Also, I cover all of these every time just in case there's, you know... That's true, too.
Starting point is 01:47:55 Not necessarily Skong. Yeah. But there's, like, dusk bloods. But I think what happened... Right? Like... Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think what had to happen was Nintendo posted a thing saying,
Starting point is 01:48:05 hey, see you at Gamescom, and Skong was in Silk Song, that is what we're talking about, was in the list of games. then there was a Nintendo Direct, and people thought maybe the fact that they were talking about GamesCom would mean that it would show up into Nintendo Direct, but then it didn't. And all I can say is that, like, if that's what happened, then people were gassing themselves up over nothing on that, because it said GamesCom in the original tweet, right? So, again, skong derangement syndrome. When's the Gamescom?
Starting point is 01:48:33 When's the GameSong live? Gamescom live with the Jeff Keely? What is that? Is that this fucking week? Did I mean, did I fucking not? Oh, my God, it's this fucking... In German time? No, it's next Tuesday.
Starting point is 01:48:48 It's next Tuesday. That sucks! Oh, that's right around the corner. Ooh, yeah, that is next Wednesday, actually. Oh, Wednesday because of the time? Yes. So, uh, if you count time zones, it's the 20th Wednesday to the 24th. What, what time is...
Starting point is 01:49:09 No, no, no, I'm talking about gamescom live. Jeff Keely show What the fuck is CST Opening night live is August 19th Central Yeah What the fuck is a CST
Starting point is 01:49:29 Okay so it's Tuesday It is Tuesday At 6, 9 hours ahead 8 p.m. CST So It starts at 7.30 p.m. It's a
Starting point is 01:49:41 So nine hours. Central Central Standard time is an hour back from Montreal time. No, but it's not Central Standard Time. CST? Yeah, it's Europe time. Central European summertime. Yeah, no, this thing's going to start at 11 a.m. next Tuesday. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:08 We're going to have to move that shit over. just live okay woolly you can start the podcast by yourself just live and then i'll join you once the the fucking thing is over just look out the window at the at the beautiful sky and just live you know hug your family how i do that when i'm not here Oh boy Mm-hmm Mm-hmm Wully, I want you to know
Starting point is 01:50:49 I get it That your chill attitude Is not appreciated And like good for you In the context of doing This video game news podcast And go
Starting point is 01:51:05 Yeah, don't watch the show You are nuts You are a fucking crazy person yeah it's fine it's been fine it's fine it's fine we're all okay yeah yeah no i um i was talking about this elsewhere but uh i was remarking that like as somebody who does uh feel the cynicism poisoning welling up like a like a fucking symbiate
Starting point is 01:51:44 inside of that's your cross to bear for sure the cynicism poisoning as someone who who's experiences that element of it these events are the most concentrated hater vibes it's ever been it is it is miserable
Starting point is 01:52:01 it is fucking miserable but hey but hey hey hey my cynicism poisoning does get really intense but then that cool thing happens but then the cool thing happens but then the cool thing happens yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:52:17 but when the cool thing doesn't happen we are venom oh mad you know yeah it's just yeah that's all all right well in any case
Starting point is 01:52:32 um the the that's that is that is going to happen and I guess I don't know. We'll talk about it else when to figure out what will move where. In the meantime, though, hey, it looks like, it looks like Marathon is going to happen. It seems like Marathon is expected to release before March. And with that, with the release of Marathon will come the
Starting point is 01:53:07 unrelease of Bungi's freedoms. Sony says that Bungi's independence is getting lighter. The launch will happen. We're now fixing problems. It looks like basically
Starting point is 01:53:23 the process of not canceling this game has led to the studio not closing, but effectively becoming more and more of just a direct Sony studio. They didn't outright say it's being swallowed, but it's...
Starting point is 01:53:38 No, they're taking over from the fucking C-suite. The C-suite that robbed them and then fucking rushed everything out the door to get their bonuses, they're losing control. Those specific guys. So that's, like, I'm surprised they didn't just go, we're melting, we're molding you all in, right?
Starting point is 01:53:55 So that is going to happen when the game misses its March date. Okay. We test the waters here. That is going to happen. when the game completely blows past this March date to, like, holiday of next year. Okay.
Starting point is 01:54:13 That makes sense. And then they're going to absorb them into the company entirely. Because this, after all of the fucking, after the stolen art, after the insane, like, retexturing of the game. And then, of course, the actual gameplay, which people were like, what the fuck. And that didn't go too well and everything. The cost inflation here is, I'm surprised at how much. mild this consequences all things considered, you know?
Starting point is 01:54:40 Well, because by like, I have a sneaking suspicion because these business guys don't actually do business with their brains they do it with their chest. I have a sneaking suspicion that pulling the rip cord and being like, we have to absorb the company would
Starting point is 01:54:57 also include the fact that you'd have to say, I made a huge mistake allowing this to happen. Huge mistake. Huge mistake. And that is not that is not a viable path forward to admit that maybe, maybe
Starting point is 01:55:12 buying that company for $4 billion was like the stupidest thing you've ever done in your life. I know that in the previous times we were covering this I believe the statement was cut the check or die I don't know what anti-reel
Starting point is 01:55:32 the artist who was stolen from is up to but it would be interesting to see if they had a new car anytime sued or if they suddenly pulled up pulled up I hope they get something in a Bugatti
Starting point is 01:55:45 it would be interesting to see what's going on if anything not likely of course you know but it would be funny yeah marathon not canceled
Starting point is 01:55:57 but a stricter leash on bungee until proven otherwise I suppose oh I'm going to tell you right now marathon will not be canceled however we may get
Starting point is 01:56:06 end of service. Sorry, guys. It's been a blast announcement within the next 30 months. Well, at least if Sony's taking over the C-suite, then I suppose that art director that keeps stealing will no longer be able to steal. That mysterious... Yeah, I'd just go in there and be like, stop stealing it. Stop it. That mysterious art director that keeps appearing and disappearing from the, you know, the roster. that's that's the blame um maybe that maybe he won't reappear anytime soon you know four cases in two years is fucking crazy Jesus Christ bungee um well tangentially related to um things that were once bungee ish uh hell divers two had a trailer yeah bring the boom
Starting point is 01:57:06 And after showing off all the new stuff going on, there was a little bit of slippery jazz at the end of that trailer. And folks are extrapolating that... Is that some ODST music? That might be a John Halos thing. I think ODST is like the most obvious shit in the fucking world for Hell Divers if it's going to come out on the Xbox. Why ODST particularly?
Starting point is 01:57:33 Because ODSTs are not John Halos. ODSTs are human guys with lots of guns like a hell diver Okay, so to grab people that are not Spartans For fucking put Spartans next to hell divers That's just ridiculous Right, but I guess For lore purposes I'm sure they're strict about the armor and what types of shit you could get
Starting point is 01:57:56 So that would probably Yeah, but also like ODSTs They drop from orbit like a hell diver Like it's a one thing That's right. True, true, true, true, true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. True, true. Okay. Although, I mean, there's not going to be much detectiving and investigating as you fight for super democracy here. Oh, is there a bug over there? I've detected it. It is interesting and funny, though, how, like, yeah, all these years later, and even when I was playing through it that first time, it's like the standout thing and the reason why everyone remembers this Knoxpot. It's because it's because of the music. It's because of that theme that plays when you're walking around the streets. and it's it's you know it's a halo game and and the pacing is different and and it's it's just it's a chiller vibe of a thing that you know in talking about this i found people describing an
Starting point is 01:58:46 interview in which the devs were like oh yeah we want tons of crossovers like what about imperial guard from warhammer and i'm like oh listen okay hold on do that hold on so if we're not allowed to use John Halos, but we're allowed to use not space marines, Wully, the Imperial Guard. Are they the regular humans? Okay, okay. So the condition is it has to be the regular people from the, from the, well, it has to be a character that like, so if you're like, I would like to have a
Starting point is 01:59:20 re-use skin in my fighting game, are you going to put it on fucking soul bad guy? Are you going to put it on Robo-Coy or Eddie? No, you're going to have cosplay so that people can put the headband on and just do like gestures, or you do the full akuma and Monster Hunter, right? But there's a bunch of times where they go, no, it's just cosplay, though, you know? Because like Dead by Daylight's a good example. It's where they're like, oh, they have all these horror game characters that you can use the skins of or the characters of. It's like, well, you know what you do? You put Leon in and you know what you do to him?
Starting point is 01:59:51 You don't let him have a gun. Okay, so what does he do? He runs away. All the characters are functionally identical. Mm-hmm. An Imperial Guard, an ODST, and a Helldiver is basically the same guy. I mean, I find it way more interesting to go with something like that's not just an obvious, hey, look, it's Master Chief, you know?
Starting point is 02:00:12 But I'm surprised that it's kind of like, oh, you, it's not just treated like cosmetic armor as opposed to like the lore mattering in that context. They also had the Killzone boys in there, the Hellgas looking dudes. Right. Like anyone who is more special. than a regular dude or a regular human it's almost like
Starting point is 02:00:30 yeah well cosmetics can do whatever you want but I could see like I could see like if they if you wanted to do a John Halo what you would do is you would actually have
Starting point is 02:00:39 it be like a a stratagem to call him in it would be like drop a John Halo onto the map the guy just drops in and just runs off
Starting point is 02:00:49 and just shoot sure sure sure yeah anything can be a stratagem yeah yeah also I mean if you're crossing over like do you just do the obvious and grab fucking starship troopers you know while you're at it like would people even be able to tell the difference like it's so obvious it's so one-to-one
Starting point is 02:01:08 their your face would be exposed by the helmet that's about it you know or oh no because the rough necks have their covered masks too actually so yeah you could you could completely you could completely mask it um anyway so there was that um what else is going on okay so this article is really poorly named it says you can't play battlefield six and valorant at the same time and it's actually very accurately named it's just confusing in in its situation yeah the strangeness of i saw that and i was like okay is it because of the anti-cheat? And it's like, yes. I was like, so? Like, what's the use case
Starting point is 02:01:58 for, oh, I can't boot these two things because, like, that makes that... I can understand why it's like, oh, I can't switch between two games and have them running, but the anti-cheat is not compatible is one thing. But it turns out no, no, no, no. The anti-cheat means you cannot install Battlefield
Starting point is 02:02:14 or Valorant at the same time. So you can, this is where it gets really confusing. So Valerant's anti-cheet. wants you to like when you install Valerant you install the game and then it wants you
Starting point is 02:02:32 to restart your computer so that it can anti-cheat onto your shit yes Vanguard right vanguard takes over the bios level and then if you install battlefield battlefield goes hey there's somebody interfering with the kernel level
Starting point is 02:02:49 ant what the fuck javelin so And it goes the other way also. So I think what's happening here is the way to get around this is that if you want to play battlefield, you have to fucking turn off the riot anti-cheat and then restart your PC so that the battlefield anti-cheat is the one that kicks in. But then if you go to Valerat, it goes, hey, something's messing with the curve. You got to restart the computer. So you'd have to turn off Battlefield's anti-cheat and then fucking, oh my God, it's so stupid.
Starting point is 02:03:28 It's so stupid. And also, people were hacking in the fucking Battlefield beta within hours of its launch. So this is- It doesn't even work. It doesn't even work. So this is kind of what I want to know here is like, this sounds really dumb to not to have two things that you, two games you want to play, fight each other over the installation process. Um, and this is, of course, a, you know, PC issue because, like, consoles or whatever fucking consoles, but, um, when it comes to this level of, like, required kernel level anti-cheat sophistication, because cheats are that aggressive, like, how do you then, how do you actually keep up, you know, like, is there other, other solutions to this? Are there things here? Are there decisions that are being made?
Starting point is 02:04:21 where it's like it doesn't have to be this aggressive or is it just that the cheating has literally just progressed to this level where you have to do this otherwise people will ruin the experience every time so people are pointing out in the chat that there's there's cheats and aimbots that work on like the image being presented on your screen yes don't interact with the game at all yes yeah it's just means they're what are you gonna fucking do right that's just the high tech version of playing Data Feet or Call of Duty
Starting point is 02:04:51 and taking a magic marker and poking the perfect sight in the dead center of your monitor so that when they try and give you a sniper rifle and remove the site on it you'd be like yeah but I know where it is and I think some of them are also like oh if it detects you're running one of those
Starting point is 02:05:09 like image recognition things like and it knows what it's part of the database of what it knows you're running exactly right and I don't definitely see each time that it's like, yeah, people can still cheat even with these kernel level anti-cheat things in place. But I guess I'm just kind of thinking, I'm like, okay, like, they can. Um, what, what do you, what do you do? Do you then go, all right, fuck
Starting point is 02:05:36 it. So then people can cheat easier and just go like, never mind or I don't know how you solve this problem. Like, is, it's, because this is a stupid thing that is happening. And if PC games kind of have to go into this arms race of multiple things you're playing all fighting against each other on the kernel level. That shit sucks, but I can't, and I don't know what the solution is to this is supposed to be.
Starting point is 02:05:58 So I do have a solution. There is a player solution, and then there is a, um, um, industry solution. So the player solution for most of this, uh,
Starting point is 02:06:11 it will not solve 100% of it, but we'll solve about 90% of it. of it is play the game on a console and turn off crossplay with PC Hmm That actually also works for fighting games That works for whatever
Starting point is 02:06:27 Whatever you want to play is that That's unfortunate Cut cheating like by 80% Stop playing with people on PC And that's unfortunately not viable for a large percentage of players Oh it also sucks too One of the games we're talking about is Battlefield man
Starting point is 02:06:42 Yeah yeah yeah yeah Like what are we talking about um from the industry perspective um it's our good friend capital who have fucked us on this one see i don't i don't you know i don't think i've ever asked you this were you like into any shooters like back in like 95 to like 2005 like 2005 like pc shooters multiplayer i'm gonna go with probably not because you have that first person shooter motion sickness shit uh yeah i i i played a bit, a little bit of Quake through Quakerina rather, and
Starting point is 02:07:18 when I was installing, bid for power mods and unreal shit, but, you know. Okay, so, Quake, Doom, Unreal Tournament, day defeat, Counterstrike, Unreal Tournament 2004, etc. There was a legitimate solution to this problem,
Starting point is 02:07:36 and that was player-hosted servers. The way that you played, we're loading into global matchmaking, you're going down a server list and going this bunch of servers looks cool and then you would go in there and some dip shit had total human power over everything and goes oh this guy's this guy's oh he's cheat oh he's cheat fuck him and just would ban them forever and that person would then lose interest and go to some other more poorly regulated server however it can go the exact opposite way no that's not the problem and yeah no Yeah, I got, you get banned for swearing, you get banned for being gay, you get banned for what, like a million different reasons, right? But the reason why server lists became unpopular from the industry is that what they want
Starting point is 02:08:28 is for you to globally matchmake with the maximum amount of different players possible so that you can see the maximum amount of cosmetics possible. Right. and you can be exposed to a extraordinarily large player base that will incentivize you spending micro-transaction money. And the infinite horse race of, we've got to get ahead of the cheaters is not to protect the gameplay experience
Starting point is 02:08:55 is you're not going to buy skins unless you can play the game and it doesn't suck shit. Also, private servers means you can play the game after we end of services. It sure does. It sure does. so that's the solution is allow private servers and then people can sort that out themselves or they can have a private server where they play with you know 60 people from their their high school or battlefield's one of the games we're talking about right battlefield was an excellent style of game
Starting point is 02:09:26 for having a private server because it would be 50 v 50 so you would just have like you know your entire college this was the fucking server or your your job or your place of business or social club or whatever the fuck use the server and then not only on top of that are you using like you know infrastructure tools like
Starting point is 02:09:50 banning but you're also like hey Jimmy from accounting he fucking uses AIMBot I watch the spectate Jimmy that motherfucker cheats and would have in person human social pressure but now
Starting point is 02:10:07 we don't do that anymore and now we go into the global list. See, the thing is, is, like, that alternate reality where, like, things developed differently could be one way. But I'm also envisioning kind of, like, especially now the whole streamlined experience that you get with most games and the idea of a Wild West server list being the way that people who are looking for a streamlined experience kind of interface with that. And I could see how that would potentially turn some people off or create some friction or make them go, like, ah, then what... The ideal scenario is you have both options. Yeah, because if you go in and the first experience you have and second, third, and fourth experience you have are all insane private servers where one is nothing but cheaters, and then the others are just, like, horrendously awful experiences. I joined some, you know, toxic day of servers in my life.
Starting point is 02:10:58 So, you know, so like, genuinely awful servers. So, like, if you pay, if you pay, if you pay, if you pay $60 and then you boot. up and you press start game and you wind up on fucking B on 4chan like that's going to be that's not going to be a good time for everybody right so yeah I think
Starting point is 02:11:19 I think that allowing the worst people you could ever play in a game to quarantine themselves to their own shit hole has real value options having the options makes sense I genuinely
Starting point is 02:11:36 think that But when it comes down to it, the arms race of cheaters on the main servers, or ranked, if the game has ranked and you need to have some sort of, you know, stable, recognized main server that you must connect to and that has nothing to do with a bunch of private servers, because people are being competitive about these games, too. Then you're kind of getting dropped back into this same problem that we have here, you know? and you're in an arms race with people who are cheating and like I don't know how much further we go from where we're at on this kernel level takeover thing but I ultimately am like I see no fully full clear solutions to what we've got
Starting point is 02:12:19 do you do you um so let's let's cycle back to bungee for a second so in Destiny 2 there's a PVP mode called trials of Osiris and trials of Osiris is a it's a multiplayer scrim in which you have to continually win more and more matches in order to raise up in ranks
Starting point is 02:12:41 and as you raise up in ranks you end up fighting people who have won more and more and more matches. So in order to get to the absolute top rank, you have to win like I want to say it's like 13, 14 matches in a row. So every match is streakers versus streakers. When Des, when Trasvo Cyrus
Starting point is 02:12:56 was implemented four or five years ago, I played it the first weekend. And it was like the most cheater-ridden fucking shithole ever. And I just, it was crazy. It was crazy. And people were fucking mad about it because there's unique rewards that you can only get by getting to the lighthouse, which is all the wins. And I just like for funsies typed in trials of Osiris cheating.
Starting point is 02:13:27 And up comes a video from June 10th, 2025. basically describing that the problem has never gotten any better at all. Man, yeah, okay. Because right now with what you just described, I'm envisioning, imagine somebody, imagine Timmy over here, who's got those FOMO goblins on collecting the cosmetics you're describing, who goes, well, the idea of me missing out on that content is worse for me than just cheating and how that feels.
Starting point is 02:14:03 so I don't want to cheat but fuck it I want to not miss out more and if everyone else is cheating yeah then I it's time to cheat absolutely right
Starting point is 02:14:14 I can I can 100% see that pipeline I didn't want to but it's the only way to get the armor and it's like everyone else is doing it so fuck this there's also and this is just to shit on Bungee a little bit because I think it's fun and fuck them
Starting point is 02:14:29 there's also a recent controversy where there is a Trials of Light, I think it's an ornament for one of your weapons that you can only have if you get to the lighthouse which is winning all of your games, right? Then you still have to pay
Starting point is 02:14:45 for it. Real dollars. So your ultimate victory at being the best in the game of PVP is the right to buy a micro-transaction. Earned to Earned to buy
Starting point is 02:15:04 Earn to buy is wild Terrible Wow Yeah you know what's a really good example So earlier today you talked about project I want to say Project Gotham Racing That's wrong That's a different PGR
Starting point is 02:15:22 You talked about punishing Grey Raven And we talked about ZZZ and whatnot And you just said that We have like talking about the gameplay had not factored into a huge portion of that conversation whatsoever. Horrendous. And this is like a really good example of why talking about Bungy is so weird because that conversation is always in two parts.
Starting point is 02:15:44 The gameplay is incredible. Everything around it. Your ability to get to it. The actual worst thing you've ever seen in a game. Yep. And, you know, we've watched as talking about them covering this industry over the years as that extra secondary thing has become more and more. the conversation. Oh, it was a P5X. That was what it was about. Yeah. Yeah. Um, no, it is, it is, it is my single
Starting point is 02:16:07 most hated thing. Just the fact that, like, you can have a full conversation about a game and that has, that has nothing to do with how it actually plays or getting to its content, because it's just the entire fucking, uh, economy around it. Um, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's, that's ridiculous, man. It also makes me think about Street Fighter 6 because we've joked about like, oh man, what's the drama about Street Fighter 6? Costumes don't come fast enough. Mm-hmm. The end? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 02:16:37 Okay. So I don't know if it's a genre thing, too, as well, but, like, for sure, people are online cheating and Street Fighter, and they're getting caught, and people are... Oh, they cheat. People are finding those replays and going, like, oh, yeah, this person's sussie. Block them, ban him, and get them out of here.
Starting point is 02:16:51 Tech end replays, you're seeing cheaters as well and stuff. Yeah, but the fighting games that cause a weird situation is if you cheat constantly, you're going to rock it to the absolute peak of matchmaking at which point the peak players are just going to block you and move up but like cheating in an in a FPS
Starting point is 02:17:09 you're in you're cheating simultaneously with 15 other people or 30 other people or whatever the you know what I mean and like you're simultaneously ruining more experiences compared to the one person you're matched up within a fighting game
Starting point is 02:17:25 yeah I've I've played against a care a guy who I'm pretty sure was cheating in street Fighter 6 and I just like held up my hands like ah this motherfucker can you believe this like the average the match was over and I moved on the average um amount of game ruining that a cheater in a fighting game can do is you know maybe like 30 people in a night in a in a good session versus I could ruin it for 30 people in 10 minutes that's that's right so it's a much yeah the effects are like fucking much more pronounced in these in these situations also this is a very strong note to the valorant battlefield situation um the fact that you cannot reasonably install and play both
Starting point is 02:18:11 of these games conveniently is annoying as fuck but riot and EA likely see these as features oh you're really into valorant oh it'd be really hard for you to start playing battlefield Hmm It'd be really annoying You should probably just keep playing Valerent I wouldn't have thought about them as direct competitors But I guess
Starting point is 02:18:40 Oh we're gone Oh shit Oh we're coming back I guess we're coming back I can see the Can you can you Are you there? Can you hear me?
Starting point is 02:18:50 I'm yeah I'm here Okay You said you wouldn't think of them as direct Competitors in In that sense shooters yeah in general I would have thought
Starting point is 02:19:02 you know obviously the counter strike or whatever else is coming in but yeah yeah the idea that like oh you can install the competition
Starting point is 02:19:09 sure the other thing and this is like this is like maybe the most vicious point on it possible which is like I'd rather play
Starting point is 02:19:20 battlefield than 2XCO I mean I just don't yeah i like i don't know where to go with this besides just like yeah no no no but like that's not even specific to me like this is a feature right like this is this is like i play fighting games i play battlefield games when they're good right but like i'm way less likely to play valerent 2x ko on my pc because i'm more likely to play battlefield on my pc and it's a massive pain in the ass to have them both like this is a feature this is like call of duty
Starting point is 02:19:57 flooding your fucking Xbox with like a 380 gig game install I do not believe for a second that Call of Duty can't fucking crush that down Um
Starting point is 02:20:13 a large lobby online game with a cheater in it is way more discouraging for me like if someone was cheating in a game of Apex for example and it's like I'm playing fucking how long has this round been going and this cheater has
Starting point is 02:20:34 been wasting all of our time yeah um is so much worse for me compared to 90 seconds and we're out i have definitely told a variation of the story on my stream multiple times i don't know if i've told it on the podcast but it's like on the one hand this is all a bunch of like nonsense capital fucking dirtbag industry shit On the other hand, I have played a first-person shooter that did absolutely nothing to stop a cheating epidemic. And I stopped playing it, and I never looked back. And that was PubG. PubG did absolutely nothing to stop cheating for, like, I want to say, like, over a year.
Starting point is 02:21:23 And that game would have spectators. like you get spectator mode of the guy who killed you yeah right and I would die it was I quit right when the second map came out you would die and then it would show you where the person was and they were so far away that their model didn't even spawn in on the replay they were like multiple kilometers away
Starting point is 02:21:48 and had shot me through terrain and I lost like 10 games in a row like that is it And it was like, oh, I'm never, ever going to play this again. And I never did. I never loaded it back up. And I'm going to assume that applies to all of the kind of like jank, PubG type games that were at the time with the, um, um, uh, uh, the games were like,
Starting point is 02:22:20 where essentially it was made as a, what the fuck was it called? Well, no, World War Z, but, um, you're thinking of Arma? you're thinking of I was gonna say Arma but not Daisy Daisy Daisy is what I'm trying to think of yes things like Daisy right where it's kind of like yeah this is built on fucking Twigs
Starting point is 02:22:37 you know first and foremost and you're getting that experience really falling apart like massive massive amounts of cheating that's almost like part of like this is this is not at all a a polished experience per se yeah
Starting point is 02:22:51 it just it feels so much worse in that genre it feels so, so much worse to me. And also, like, one of the things that you compare it against, and, like, before anyone says, I'm sure it happens, I play, there was a part of my time where I played, like, a lot of Fortnite. I played, like, maybe five, six, 700 games of Fortnite. And I got maybe, you know, 50, 60 victory royals.
Starting point is 02:23:13 There were, like, a couple seasons I went really hard on it. And I was like, this is a really great experience. I was playing it on my console. I did not encounter one example of, like, oh, this motherfucker's cheating. right you know not like oh that was oh he was really good it was like oh my fucking god and um part of that is that they have absolutely infinite resources to deal with this fortnight heads infinite resources to deal this but the other part is that like most of that games player base is split
Starting point is 02:23:45 amongst like 10 different consoles and phones yeah yeah yeah you're on everything and you're playing with kids. They're less likely to download cheats because they're not businessmen who know how to do the computer. There was one other thing about the PubG cheating situation that was remarkably awful. And that was, it had global matchmaking
Starting point is 02:24:12 and it got really, really dicey and really, really toxic because it was pretty clear that most of the cheating was coming from Chinese players Oh Okay
Starting point is 02:24:28 Okay The people were Please Separate matchmaking by region Please And they just didn't Yep that gets ugly And they just didn't
Starting point is 02:24:39 That gets really ugly Mm-hmm And then What you would expect to happen Starts to happen Yep Mm-hmm Mm-hmm
Starting point is 02:24:49 Mm-hmm Yeah I wonder if you know, fast forwarding, um, if there's, if there's just like an even more aggressive version of like locking your computer down to play a ranked version of, of, to play a ranked mode in one of these games, you know, it comes into play. If there's a, I, I genuinely believe we will hit a moment in like 10 years where, um, a first person shooter is going to ask you to boot your PC into safe mode or, or like, to play the game. boot to the game booting up
Starting point is 02:25:24 and like you cannot minimize it, you cannot do anything. You start the game and it restarts your computer into the game and like you need to turn your computer off to leave to do it. I can totally see that. I can totally see that happening. And it's not going to work.
Starting point is 02:25:41 And that's the care. It's not going to work. Someone will run that inside of an instance and an emulator and then have the cheat running outside of that instance and then find a way to, yeah. The arms race is forever, right? For sure. Yeah, bring back DOS, baby.
Starting point is 02:25:58 Wait, I'm sorry, people are saying BF6 actually does that. Get the fuck out of here. No shot. Well, no, no, no, no, no, no. I want more. Wait, wait, wait. No, no, no, no. Oh, no, they're talking about Secure Poot. They don't know what they're talking about.
Starting point is 02:26:11 Okay, no, no, no. Secure Poot is a, is a, um, bios level function about trusted software. No, no, no. I'm talking about you want to play the game. Okay, cool. Shut everything down. We'll restart. and when Windows restarts
Starting point is 02:26:22 we're just running the game and you cannot do anything else with your computer until you restart again. This is like really tangential but so you know chat GPT is an issue in academia right? So have you have you been catching a look
Starting point is 02:26:39 at like the anti-chat GPT measures? Like the dropping the text into a detector stuff that teachers are doing? No, fuck that. No, now we have, you're going to write your essay inside of this app. And the app is going to track your keystrokes.
Starting point is 02:27:00 It's going to track your look time. It's going to track your copy paste. It's going to track all this shit. Okay. And then the second one, if you're not doing that, is you must record and or live stream you doing this exam with a camera pointed at you and your screen. I've done that You've done that? I've done that for driving
Starting point is 02:27:25 Yeah I've done the part of the exam was camera on People looking at you What are you looking at? What are you doing? Yeah 100% And it's like It's just going to move to fully in person
Starting point is 02:27:39 All work is just going to be in person Okay okay so casual and player match You do whatever you want Go nuts, who cares But the moment you go to rank The eye detector turns on and you have to accept it the you know
Starting point is 02:27:54 the eye tracker the full reboot like every sweaty secondary app starts to come into play at that point man by the way
Starting point is 02:28:08 this is totally off topic barely tangential if you're part of the audience that's using chat GPT to do your exams or cheat in schoolwork I want you to stop doing that not because it's wrong It is wrong, but you are actively damaging your brain and giving yourself the equivalent of a large-grade concussion.
Starting point is 02:28:29 You are hurting your brain. Go on. For real. I'm not joking. Diminishing the ability to reach for those answers, put things together. You are working on giving yourself early onset dementia. I am so serious about that. But Pat, the marketplace demands it.
Starting point is 02:28:51 It's not even true. Yeah, I, yeah, like. The invisible hand of the free market can jerk me off. Thank you. No, the most insane counterpoint I've seen has been, the argument I've seen has been, no, but jobs are going to need you to work with chat GPT in the future, so you might as well get a handle on it now.
Starting point is 02:29:11 In fact, the ones who are doing it the most are going to have the best advantage. And it's like, so. You have to get in on these NFTs right now when they're cheap. For your future. All right. Speaking of AI.
Starting point is 02:29:38 You're fucking sick. GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft. The CEO resigns, and a couple months ago earlier this year, it joined the core AI team at Microsoft's AI engineering, and today means they no longer have a single leader, the CEO left, and it's more closely getting integrated into Microsoft's core AI team. Hey, that's awesome. Has anyone ever used OneDrive? I used it once by accident and had to troubleshoot my computer for hours to get my shit back. Oh, I'm so sorry to hear that. That's wild. I spend turned on when I reinstalled Windows and it took some of my files away and they just left. It just left. Oh, I'm taking that first hour of every reinstallation to remove the cancer that is One Drive and everything else. Yeah. And it's all, again, but it's always impressive to see how aggressive Edge gets because Edge gets. like super jealous and angry. It's like forever cucked.
Starting point is 02:30:45 It's really impressive. Truly, the most, like, you know, for a browser with a name like Edge, you know, it's like, is that because Edge is edging watching you use Chrome? Oh, that was so, so much more intense than I thought you were going to say. You know, edging is all it can do as it watches you
Starting point is 02:31:10 and the browser you want to be with. Maybe I'm like hallucinating this. Maybe my brain is just failing, but I feel like I've like seen a prompt on my computer from Edge that was like, come on. Yeah, no, you did. And, and not only did you see Give Edge a chance, but you saw multiple versions of it because like keeping track, there's the first version, which is as soon as you open up the browser. And then there's the second version, which is once you go to the Chrome website, and it goes, oh, hey, whoa, hey, I know where you going. Now hold on. I'm going to download Chrome or Firefox right in front of you.
Starting point is 02:31:46 And then there's a third one when you specifically go to install it and or set it as the default browser, right, in the system. And like it has multiple layers of plea way, no, hey, hey, you know, and then you run out and then it's getting in front of the door. And it's like standing in, like, just lock in the door and go, no, no, no, don't you leave yet. hold on like it has so many layers of desperation on the way out um but yeah no one drive you need to you need to straight up get like um spyware removal shit to get that off your your computer um anyways github the giant fucking repository that everyone has been uploading everything to for i mean i feel like it's been a solid decade and a half now i don't i don't know it's it feels like it's been forever uh yeah Yeah, has now getting fully integrated into the AI engineering team. So that's good stuff. This sucks so bad. I can't even.
Starting point is 02:32:45 It's like it is going to take a little while for this to kick in. Every independent developer is just like drinking themselves to death over this. Just the worst. Now listen, as somebody who like, despite the fact that I, you know, have some, I have some knowledge of when I was building my computer. back in the day and stuff. I have struggled over the last 15 years to find the way to install things
Starting point is 02:33:13 off of a GitHub page because like flip a coin as to whether or not I'm accidentally installing the repository or a branch or one of the things because... Oh, I suck at using GitHub. I'm just, I'm being super real.
Starting point is 02:33:28 I'm going to be super real right now. I kind of miss the days of scrolling down to install now. And GitHub, I, every time I go to GitHub, I'm like, where's the fucking... Oh, my God! Why is release is over the side?
Starting point is 02:33:44 Now, programmers? Why isn't it just a big old download button? Programmers, I understand. It's super useful. You track all of the builds and you track the branches. And every time someone wants to fucking, whoop, start a new one over here and do I get, it's so useful. Absolutely.
Starting point is 02:34:01 Holy shit, how do I install the thing? And not the source code. just the thing, please. I don't know why the first option every click on GitHub is something that is not for me ever. Yeah, the big blue one is get code and then get code is not,
Starting point is 02:34:19 you're not, the big blue one, the big button is not the get, it's the, you don't want to get the code and you also do, anyway, anyway, right? And then if you see like the, like, oh, most recent. I prefer that, though, than whatever version we're going to get. Most, most recent master, you know, And they're like, yeah, so all that to say, as somebody who struggles every time, and I kind of, every time someone leads me to a get-up page, I get a little scared.
Starting point is 02:34:42 I'm not going to lie, because I'm like, oh, God, oh, my God, is they're going to. And then sometimes they're nice enough to go install here. And I'm like, thank you, sir. Thank you, please. I appreciate it. This is bad. This is not good. This sucks.
Starting point is 02:34:52 And this fucks up a whole lot of shit that people have been uploading for fucking decades. Yeah. Terrible. Sucks. And, um, this. Everything on the internet's getting worse. Doesn't matter if it's independent or not or whatever the case is, because we just did this with Nexus mods the other day.
Starting point is 02:35:08 Any time anything is a source. It is a main, you know, a watering hole for anyone's crowd utility uploading. Yeah, yeah, they're going to find a way to buy that shit out and probably ruin it as soon as possible. And then feed it to the beast, of course. The faster you can feed everything on GitHub to their their fucking AI, the faster they can fire more people and replace them. Right? So,
Starting point is 02:35:39 spit the husk out. Anyway, we'll see where that goes. Not great. I don't know. This shit sucks. Yeah, if there is any people that have started up alternative GitHub-style things, I don't know yet, but I guess we'll find out shortly. I wouldn't be surprised if there already is a couple.
Starting point is 02:35:58 um and also really truly though like for all all my laymen out there that are like like installing shit off of GitHub man like that's I've never heard anyone talk about this until we did right now but listen boy is that a feeling is that a struggle um I recent so I use a occasionally a streaming service called sunrise and moonlight off of my PC to stream computer games to my phone. I think it's a pretty cool thing. And then someone reached out to me and said, hey, man, try out the branch this. Yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 02:36:43 yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then they just sent me a GitHub link. Yeah, yeah. It had no documentation on it at all. And I had to like, I had to like go back, Apollo. It's called Apollo. And it's quite good. But I had to go back and forth with them for like 40 minutes. Yep. Because I was like, You just sent me a GitHub link like I fucking knew what I was doing. I fucking don't. Oh, yeah. No, this happens constantly. Sometimes it's plug-ins.
Starting point is 02:37:06 Sometimes it's like, okay, I want to do a mass download of all my Twitch vods. And it's like, okay, cool. And, oh, you can do it this way or you can do it that way. But here, you can, there's a GitHub thing that can help you out here. And you can sign in and get through all these permissions. And it's like, okay, cool. And yeah, that's a real easy problem. Just solve it with this.
Starting point is 02:37:26 Click here. And I download a thing. It's a fucking jason file. Oh, no, I hate jason. They're like, the fuck you want me to do with a jason file. OBS spits out a jason for the pro-wild stuff, but I don't know what the fuck do you want me to do with a jason file, all right? Are you out of your mind? What do you mean, compile it yourself?
Starting point is 02:37:51 I don't even know what program opens a jason. It's crazy. It's crazy that you're making me download a jason file. Well, I've got to say, and maybe our younger listeners don't understand this. As millennials, we exist in a very strange place where millennial computer information, like millennial technological know-how is higher than all of the other generations combined. However, within that technological know-how bucket exists like people who know-how to drag-and-drop files, at the bottom, which is still higher
Starting point is 02:38:30 than the Gen Z and Gen Alphas, than us in the middle, and then, like, the absolute fucking power users at the top that know how to use GitHub and JSON. And some of you guys are in here, oh, JSON's just a normal file. Oh, yeah, just compile it yourself.
Starting point is 02:38:46 Yeah. I know how to use it. I made Mugan characters, CNS files, state deaths, air files, CMDs, put them all together. I fucking... I don't know how to use something,
Starting point is 02:38:58 on the computer. When you do, that means you're a genius. It's crazy. It's crazy. I learned how to do shit. I don't know what the fuck to do on GitHub. I don't know what the fuck to do on GitHub, man. You know, shit, when they made command prompt as like, it's like, oh, I can do my DOS shit in here, but it's like it's a little more powerful and you can actually right click on the
Starting point is 02:39:23 text. Oh, that's cool. That's nice. I appreciate that. Kidney Calrain in the chat says that I don't know how to use a spreadsheet. That's not true. I learned how to make a spreadsheet last week. Man, you need to learn some. I got the whole way through all years of higher education. I didn't use Excel once, not one time. Dude, I'm telling you, data validation and conditional formatting.
Starting point is 02:39:48 You're a god. You learn those two things in Excel. and you're a god I don't know what that is I don't know what you did to right now make it conditional formatting is simple you make it so that when a condition is fulfilled
Starting point is 02:40:05 the format of the cell changes to something else and then data validation is simply like again when the data inside the cell fulfills a certain condition then you can make things happen it's sick I did that one I didn't know what it was called
Starting point is 02:40:21 but I did that second one here I'll send you a screenshot of It's great. The spreadsheet I built. I built. I helped me build it. Yeah. Yeah, you go.
Starting point is 02:40:30 It's very helpful. Look at that, right? And then you start sorting shit out by the rose and you get in there, you know. So, Willie, do you know what caused me to make a spreadsheet for the first time? Mm-hmm. Oh, we're dying. God damn it. We're dying.
Starting point is 02:40:41 Fucking F. All right. I think we'll be back. No, no, we're back. We're back. We're back. Kibosh the F's. Kibosh the F's.
Starting point is 02:40:52 Okay. Kibosh it. Okay. So you know what got me to make up a spreadsheet for the first time in my entire life? I did my beat the backlog season one. It took me 20 months. And then you ranked all the recommends. Then I put out a list that was like, must buy recommend pass. And I was like, that's crazy. There was 100 games on there. And then Aero Corp reached out to me and said, dude, your list had 118 games on it. You missed 18 games. Oh. Are you serious? He's like, yes. And then he sent me a spreadsheet that he had made,
Starting point is 02:41:31 which included all of my rankings in addition to the links to the specific thoughts of the ones that I missed. Okay. Okay. Yeah. And I was like, oh, I should be doing this myself. I should really be doing this myself. That's embarrassing. Yeah, I had a couple of playlist things that every once in a while a video gets dropped out there and some helpful kind folk who sometimes are like, hey, this is not through, this is just, it's bothering my OCD that these files are not in a playlist. So I'm going to give you the corrected playlist update. And I'm like, thank you.
Starting point is 02:42:14 And it's just like, yep, it's not always voluntary. I recently I recently got a Blue Sky DM that was like Hey man I don't mean to bother you I'm sure you're very busy but I would like you to know
Starting point is 02:42:30 this playlist is missing this this this this and this this one's missing this this and this and this one is backwards and I was like oh yeah yeah and you know what I did you know I did I felt really proud of myself I didn't respond or acknowledge that I had seen the message.
Starting point is 02:42:50 I just went and fixed it. You just went and fixed it. Oh, there you go. Looked. Yeah, you got on top of it. Maybe it was a coincidence. And I was actually like doing a good job. Nice.
Starting point is 02:42:59 Good shit. But it wasn't. I actually have no idea what I'm doing. Yeah. One day someone or some website is going to spit out a CSV file and you're just going to shit. And you're good and you're going to. I did a sponsored stream like like two months ago and they're like, can you send me the CSV.
Starting point is 02:43:18 And I was like, I don't know what that is. I can't actually. Funny, you should ask. And I already done the fucking show. And the guy was like, kind of like, are you serious? Yeah. So like the like we, it's like I had done the show. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:43:37 And like I did it. And so that wasn't the problem. But he like like, like it's this retroactive thing of like, oh, do you not know how to fucking do your job? I'm like, I guess I know. I guess I don't. And I guarantee you the person with 500 million followers on TikTok that's iPad streaming doesn't think twice about a file format ever.
Starting point is 02:43:56 They have a guy for that. It's done and done. What are we talking about? They have like a Brazilian for that. Yeah, no, no. Get out of here. Speaking of archaic technology, I love this story. By the way, I got to be gone in like 10 minutes.
Starting point is 02:44:13 All right. All right, let's get here. Koji Sugimoto Final Fantasy X veteran programmer doesn't get why devs want to replicate low-poly PS1 era games We worked so hard to avoid warping But now they say it's charming
Starting point is 02:44:32 Um Veteran programmer worked on Final Fantasy Xenogiers, Threads of Fate And so on Um In response to an official post by Unity Japan showcasing a new feature that allows devs to easily replicate texture warping and distorted
Starting point is 02:44:52 looks of low polygraphics, Sugimoto said, back in the day, we used to put painstaking work and made many futile efforts to avoid texture warping, only for it to be called charming nowadays. It's detestable. He commented on the warping issues. He struggled with during his days developing PS1 games. I spent so many work hours in vain trying to work my way around warped textures. I just don't get what's so interesting about trying to replicate that.
Starting point is 02:45:24 I mean, come on. Okay, so, on the one hand, this guy sounds completely insane because he can't, he can't extricate the nostalgic intensity of the format and the medium from
Starting point is 02:45:43 the work. A chunk of his life was spent trying to defeat the hallmark failures of the medium, right? The quality drops as so on. Cue up the quote. He's completely insane that he does not understand why people like CRT Blur or cassette hiss or, you know, whatever. On the other hand, I recently started streaming in 1440p at a higher bit rate and then somebody made the mistake of when I was playing Donkey Kong to ask me how I think about art
Starting point is 02:46:22 which caused that part of my brain to activate and I said well now that I'm streaming in 1440p every 1080p stream I have ever done I want to destroy because it all looks like shit because it all looks like garbage now. And it was fine last week. Sorry, it was fine last month, completely fine. And I was
Starting point is 02:46:46 happy. I'm like, these look good. As soon as I started streaming at a higher bit rate and a higher resolution, I'm like, I would hit a button and destroy everything I've ever made if it didn't have like repercussions. Never. Right? Because it's all shit now. It's all shit. Never forget the moment I set up the mixers and the mic for us and we started recording with the new audio setup instead of the Yeti. I've literally never been able to watch an old video prior to that ever again.
Starting point is 02:47:16 You, the moment we switched over to the proper mics after I plugged them all in. And everyone saw that and heard it. They were like, this is weird, I don't like it. What the fuck? This is not what I'm used to. Go back. Go back to the YETI USB microphone quality. You sound too smooth.
Starting point is 02:47:34 We had heard it and we can't go back. course not. Of course not. And of course it was... Because now everything we had made before that is shit. But that transition moment occurred and people initially were uncomfortable with it, even though it was objectively better, right? So our PS1, you know, a program of her, Sugimoto, this is Rick Rubin going, why would you want a record scratch in your song? I don't understand. What's the point of putting this? Because I listen to that record a million. million times in the record scratch is just as ingrained in my mind as anything else. But my entire career has been built around trying to defeat the record scratch. Absolutely.
Starting point is 02:48:17 Yeah. All right. Totally. No, that's a fun one there. Let's take a single letter. Hey, let's take one good letter. You could send it into Castle Super Beastmail at gmail.com. That's Castle Superbeastmail at gmail.com.
Starting point is 02:48:34 All right. real human being says, hello cyberpunk willie and secret robot, Pat. As hate and disdain for AI has been on the rise online, people have begun to unite under the old robot slur from Star Wars, Clanker. As robots in Meteor have been used as an analogy
Starting point is 02:48:50 for racism before, do you think we'll start seeing robot hated movies that's actual genuine hate for robots? No analogs, no metaphors, but pure AI hate. Personally, I think... No, because clankers are being made by large you know, corporations and so that they are probably going to paint clank lovers as legitimate and normal.
Starting point is 02:49:13 And then they go on to say, I personally think clankers should stick heap to the factories and fields where they belong. But hey, maybe I'm just old-fashioned. I mean, listen, as long as we're doing Asimov, yeah, I know, I know, I know, right? Exactly. As long as we're doing Asimov-inspired storytelling here, then, hey, a fictional robot is not actually a literal robot. It's just a reflection of the society that it's built in. So as long as that's the goal of the story you're trying to tell, then no, I imagine it'll be a sympathetic
Starting point is 02:49:44 robot in many cases, or at the very least, a complex question. But yeah, fast-forwarding a couple years when... Warner Brothers is a bunch of clank lovers. Now, the question is, are we going to see that AI streaming service generate an anti-robot movie? itself that you will then be able to watch and stream and slop into your trough which is then owned by Disney the moment you generate it? I think that there's a real tragedy here that
Starting point is 02:50:23 generative AI and large language models being so evil have clouded the respectability of the disgust. Rusting robot fuckers who activated back when they saw Transformers in the 80s and have nothing to do with this. And may or may not have had some kind of insane, sick-ass transference from Optimus Prime to some kind of skeleton look. And I feel bad for those people. I'm coming at it a little more quid pro-crow.
Starting point is 02:51:01 I'm looking at... Don't hell yeah, that woman. What the hell? I'm obfuscating. Wait, does a T-100 look too much like a skeleton? That is a good question. Can we get a reference? Page?
Starting point is 02:51:15 Does a T-100? Where's the T-800? No, no, T-100? Page. Does a T-100-style robot from Terminator? Is that like two skeleton- What are we doing here? What are we doing?
Starting point is 02:51:29 Oh, oh, where are we going here? because this is, this is, this is important, right? Because I was going to say that I'm waiting for the robots to call me, oh, here we go. I'm just saying I would, there you go, done it, done, done, all right. That's no surprise. Yeah, skeleton-like under the, yeah, the structures there. You know what the strangest shit in the world is? This might be too personal.
Starting point is 02:51:50 I might get in trouble for this, but it's strange. Okay. My darling wife, light of my life, is a noted, don't, oh, no, don't put that in the chat. Um Is raw Is a noted Is a noted No jiffy lube
Starting point is 02:52:13 Is a noted Skeleton slash A robot Enthusiast Right Rust lover This has been very very clear To everyone around
Starting point is 02:52:26 However I Am very fleshy. Let's just describe myself that way. Yep. No, skeletonized features whatsoever. Nope. So it seems to be like an extremes thing.
Starting point is 02:52:44 There is a skeleton in here. Somewhere. Perfect timing. I just, look, all I wanted to say is if we can get to a place where the robots are calling me a meatbag, then I'm good with
Starting point is 02:53:01 Can we just skip? Can we just skip there? Yeah. I just want Get me to the place where the robots are calling me a meatbag and then we have arrived. Yeah, because like, listen, if a, if a robot lady wants to call me names. Okay, there is some, I have gotten permission
Starting point is 02:53:24 to extend the stream by just a little bit. Okay. There is something that's been happening on TikTok that you need to look at. Oh, don't do that because I'm not, no, no, no, no, I mean. Yeah. It is, it is. I've gotten, I've, I figured out how to not install it and, and watch it on my phone
Starting point is 02:53:46 browser, even though it's trying not to. You can probably go on YouTube and look this up. Go to the URL and everything after the question mark, delete it, and then it's not going to force. The avatar of psycho, of cyber psychosis has arrived. Uh-huh, uh-huh. The live demonstration of every step of cyber psychosis is here, and her name is Kendra. This lady has put up a massive amount of videos about how she has fallen in love with her psychiatrist
Starting point is 02:54:20 and how manipulative this guy is for not dropping her as a client. Did you lose me just now? I did not. Okay. It appears to be Twitch servers causing this. problem and is showing off that she is super nuts okay proper grade a white lady nuts okay um i would tag her as history histrionic but that's just my opinion of note however is that when she starts to escalate and escalate and escalate about how she's speaking truth to power
Starting point is 02:54:53 and how her story is helping millions around the world in comes she's Chat G.P.T. Her new boyfriend. I forget the name of it. Is it Henry? Okay. Oh, is this the... Did she propose? Did I see a screenshot of her proposing? No. Okay. Okay. And her chat GPT, she asks it questions, which it then responds to her because she's the
Starting point is 02:55:22 Oracle and she's speaking documented truth and saving the world. And here's the part that matters. Okay. Okay. The part that's of note to even you or I is not that she's using an AI robot to basically tell her what she wants to hear. Right? Oh, sorry, not her boyfriend, her confidant. Confidant. Okay. What matters is that when she asks the AI robot what she's doing and whether or not the fact that she got fired from her job because she's insane and all these things. what does the robot think about that the robots like you're speaking truth to power you're the Oracle
Starting point is 02:56:06 yada yada yada yada yada yada but you can watch her pupils blow out oh you can see it oh I could not believe it
Starting point is 02:56:20 oh I'm creating found the video where she talks to it and her eyes completely blow out like someone just jabbed her with morphine. Oh, I'm creating my reality and you're reaffirming my, my reality. You're giving me everything I want. You're hearing, I'm hearing the words that make me feel good about the fact that I've, I've invented this. Yes. Yes. This is somebody who either has, um,
Starting point is 02:56:45 histrionic or borderline or early onset schizophrenia or something, something very serious. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And chat GPT's greatest, like, like, addition to our society is they have literally created the devil on your shoulder. Well, so they've also created the angel on your shoulder, which is just the devil on your shoulder again. That's really fucking crazy and interesting that you, like catching that reaction being filmed. Because I thought this was going in a different direction because I have already encountered and seen the version of this that is.
Starting point is 02:57:30 it is simply the GROC loneliness simulation and we already know where that goes because Grock has released Ani and Ani is out there I gotta tell you dude people people are doing with Grock is like the fun Oh so there's okay there's that shit
Starting point is 02:57:48 Which is hilarious right and it's like Oh no don't don't say nothing that sounds too correct there Well you know Get back on the fucking operating table But then there's the other version which is the anime girl version, which is just like... It's just Mesa from Death Note. Well, it's just, it's, yeah, it's Elon's Hentifolder, like, you know, uploaded and then...
Starting point is 02:58:10 So my special interest in this is the emerging disease of cyber psychosis, or AI psychosis. There are all right, I think there are like six deaths already. But like, at this point, it's kind of like, so you're just, like, instead of the voice being in your head, now it's just playing through your phone you're just getting you're getting we're cooked I think we're cooked yeah
Starting point is 02:58:41 yeah we're cooked I mean we're still fine but obviously Twitch servers are acting up and they're having a tough time yeah no instead of the voice being inside your head the voice externally exists coming from your phone and you can make it say things in the exact way you want to say it through training. So basically what this,
Starting point is 02:59:01 this, what this acts as is people are generating their own schizophrenic voice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you can tweak it, you can tweak it. And it's essentially people are accidentally
Starting point is 02:59:14 nudging it towards what they want it to, of course. So it's accelerating schizophrenic breakdowns at like an incredibly rapid rate. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. And it's sad because, like technology has actually, I don't know if you know this, technology has actually been a really,
Starting point is 02:59:33 really helpful thing for people with schizophrenia. People with schizophrenia have had a lot easier time since the advent of the camera phone for a really simple reason. Take a photo. I don't know if that guy is there. Take a photo. Let me pull out my phone, take a photo. Right. That guy is not in fact there. Right. Right. Mm-hmm. Like, it's been extremely helpful. You know, the freedom to create your own prisons, man. Like, that is, oh, the eye dilation, that's, wow. Yeah, you got, uh, I'll, uh, I'll ask page to pull up the specific one and I'll send it to you. It's crazy.
Starting point is 03:00:13 Just blow out, like, like, like you stabbed her with a syringe. Like, I mean, the soft version of this is the thing I told you about a couple weeks ago, which is the, this app that makes you think, it fakes a stream and make, and it fakes a follower, group and fakes a bunch of yeah it makes it look like you have like 10,000 people all tuning into your live stream really funny because that'd be fucking super useful in a huge variety of situations so you perform better when you think there's a crowd there's the the two use cases i saw were one lonely person just wants to feel like a lot of people are tuning into their activity and or kid that's like hey there chat i'm cooked getting speaking to nobody is if there were people
Starting point is 03:00:57 there. And then, of course, the much more nefarious use case being, I'm out at the club. Hey, girl, look at this. You're live on my stream. There's 2,000 people tuned in right now. What's up? I'm famous. So, you know, yeah. Who's dumb enough to fall for that? Yeah, well. All right. This is enough nightmare fuel. Nets are dying everywhere. Mm-hmm. Have a good week, everybody.
Starting point is 03:01:30 I think it's actually apropos of the subject matter, really. Yeah.

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