Castle Super Beast - CSB336: Hindmilk Foremilk Daymilk Nightmilk

Episode Date: September 3, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You know, I'm going to be able to be. Hey, Wolves, how you doing? Yo, yo, how's it going? It's going great. Yeah. How's it going over in the new dad world? You know, it's about as tiring as you'd expect.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Just keeping up with all the things and trying to figure out how to solve the Rubik's Cube that is a baby. Just keep doing it. That's the solution. Yeah. That's the only day is you just keep doing it. Yeah. And then eventually old problems disappear and are replaced with new problems. Yeah, you never clear more than like one side at a time.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Like you get close to clearing one side of the cube and then like it just finds new ways, you know. But yeah, no, that's that's going. But then you look at them and you're like, oh, you're sure you're. Yeah. Well, you know, but then, and I mean, like, even, even like, again, just always brand new versions of things. It's like, okay, so spitting up, how much spit up is too much spit up, you know? Is it like, are you, are you now, are you going to be hungry again? Because you spat up half of what you just ate, you know? Yes. Yes. It seems to be the answer. Seems to be the answer. Yeah. I got really lucky, dude. My, my. little guy spit up once that was one of the like the like we made it
Starting point is 00:02:07 all the way out of the infant stage and we're like nailed it that dodge that one 100% we didn't dodge the the sleep talking baby scream thing that shit's crazy yeah the noise just dead asleep
Starting point is 00:02:23 and go ah who oh who ah okay uh yeah who la la like just haven't had that yet we get sleep we get sleep coos you know um sleep coos are nice that's so cute sleep coos are cute um but no it's more of a um it's more of a a a yeah like the the spit up occurs and it seems to be based on the speed at which milk is ingested so slow it down but but wait they're gonna the the speed
Starting point is 00:02:56 that they want the milk at they're gonna get mad that they're Yeah, so you're fighting against yourself. And anyway, you know, there's there, there is all that. How's punch mom doing? Doing, doing, doing good, doing good, you know. Yeah, is, um, is, is, is, is, is, you know, we're, we're doing the, the, the, the, the, the back and forth there. I, apparently something we learned is that, um, part of postpartum, uh, the, uh, development is
Starting point is 00:03:27 that, like, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, the, uh, the, the, There's all these crazy things that were like, again, you thought we learned a bunch of. And then it's like, no, no, no, there's more, there's more stuff coming. And so, like, well, there's a bunch of shit they didn't tell you so you couldn't back out. Yeah, one of the things that we got from a nurse was that the sleep cycles of postpartum mothers, like, actually change to be more adapted towards baby. So, like, while, you know, the other partner parent is like just going through their regular sleep into REM. you know, crash cycles, mother drops into dream state immediately
Starting point is 00:04:06 and gets a deeper sleep right away within that two to three hour period and comes back out and is like, it's still rough, but it's like the body is adjusting to let the sleep skip the first and second phases and just get right into REM and back out, you know, which is nuts. So there's another process in human biology that mimics that behavior. Are you familiar with it? Maybe I forget.
Starting point is 00:04:31 It's called sleep deprivation. Sleep dep, yeah. When you're sleep dep, you skip phase one and two. Okay. And go straight to three and four. So yeah, I guess that's what. It might be related. Might be.
Starting point is 00:04:45 But apparently that's a part of what affects moms, you know. You know what? You know what? It's probably, I'm curious. Is this affecting both of you guys? Because it affected me and Paige. where you went from like, I'm a normal sleeper, I have a normal sleep depth to,
Starting point is 00:05:03 I think I heard something two blocks away. Does that mean the baby is in trouble? Yeah, yeah, of course, both. And that stays on at all times for sure. You know, and we're still figuring out the system. But for the most part, you know, besides shifts, there's things where it's like, well, for example, like to do like a podcast like today or so,
Starting point is 00:05:21 because the fact that this is, you know, I'm continuing to do this part means it's like, okay, I do have to get some rest before, you know, doing this and then put the work in to do it and then afterwards as well so that means you know like a longer period of time before a tag out shift can happen um and then similarly i will take later shifts to do like some bottle feeds to let her get a longer shift you know in certain places so it's just yeah it's an evident of flow and a back and forth of it and well it good on you for being such like a cooperative and attentive dad it's very different from our parents generation it's
Starting point is 00:05:55 well yeah I mean hey I'm here um so there's that no I don't mean that but yes no it is not it is different thank you I appreciate that but yeah it is it is very different for sure I don't mean that yes no it's crazy different um and what I will say is it also just it's more logical in the sense that like being up early damages me more than it damages her and being up late damages her more than it damages me so oh yeah no you run into all these these setups where you're like on if you wrote this down on paper it's like that's is that unfair and it's like no but it's it's not the same on paper so like for example i have an easier time waking up in the morning than page does right and the reason why that is is because the boy tends to kick and claw at
Starting point is 00:06:42 her at night more than he kicks and claws at me so i get up at six or seven or whatever but also because i'm dad he's more likely to play with his blocks and toys for me in the morning okay Whereas in the morning, if Paige gets up with him at seven, it's mom, mom, mom, mom, mom, mom, plato, mom, mom. And it's like, it's, it's, it's completely, completely different. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Um, there's also the problem where, like, okay, so if we want to optimize, like, battery recharges, if I can run the whole night shift and then, you know, skip the feed and give a full double shift, you know, a while. I did a couple of them. While she stays asleep, that'd be great. But 3 a.m. is premium breast milk hours. And that's the time where it matters the most because you can produce the most. You can up your supply the most. And like.
Starting point is 00:07:39 But still, like having to do that, but also having to feed the child and then put the child back down. Yeah. The whole thing. The whole thing. No, for sure. And so it's just like sacrifice whatever you need to keep your sanity. make sure that you don't want to make it so that you can't, like, function, but, like, there's these things where they go, if you can make one of these happen, make sure it's that 3am one,
Starting point is 00:08:04 because between 2 and 5 is when this is the, and then you're like, oh, my God, like, so that starts to matter more, and before you know it, we're walking out of the, like, you know, so there's CLSCs, you know, which is the, um, whatever, like, um, it's a public health, public health clinic, exactly, like in, in, in Quebec. And, um, you know, You were, and then we're catching words that we never heard before. We're learning about, um, day milk and night milk. Oh, yeah, day milk and night milk. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:08:35 And then, you know, and so, and then I'm- You want to separate those. Okay, okay, well, so here's the thing. And like, I'm, we cross-referenced that with other nurses that we talk, that are talking to. Because we have some people that are just like, okay, this, we have a good resource of someone that's like, right, this is this a real thing? Is this some bullshit, you know? and thankfully they've been pretty
Starting point is 00:08:54 solid on that and it's like okay so the day milk and the night milk thing it sort of exists but there's not a whole lot of conclusive it's not like a 50% difference it's not a slam dunk and also there's a whole lot of like
Starting point is 00:09:10 misconceptions and misunderstandings about what it's supposed to be what it's implied to be is not exactly what you're getting and furthermore some parents some moms literally just the milk they get later in the day has more of one or the other in it, right? So the idea is supposedly that like there is day milk in the morning, it has more, what was it?
Starting point is 00:09:39 No, okay, night milk in the night has more melatonin, and that makes baby sleepier, but that also makes mom sleepier. So that gets expressed into both, and thus you be in both baby and mom get rest out of that. But then furthermore, morning milk, day milk has more cortisol in it, and that's better for getting energy and breaking up for the day. Exactly. And so on. And so apparently, depending on when you pump and when you feed, if you pump some cortisol day milk and you feed it at night, that might, whatever, whatever. And it's like, yeah, this shit only matters if you can get a surplus.
Starting point is 00:10:20 So there's that, right? And then, and then also, like, again, double-checking that with a trusted registered nurse that we know that is aware on things. She's like, don't, she was upset that we were told about it because she's like, stop. This is not, especially if you're trying to just, you know, if you're trying to keep up and manage things and keep, keep, it, keep a healthy supply and keep sane, do not start worrying about these details. Yeah, don't min, max your baby. It's insanity, right? And then she's like, she's like, I'm mad that you guys started hearing about that. furthermore, you know, they could have even gotten worse because then you start, not only is there day milk and night milk, but then you could go further into it to get four milk and hind milk. Have you heard about four milk and hide milk?
Starting point is 00:11:02 Yes. So folks, besides there being a conceptual milk for the morning and milk for the night, there is also, during a particular feed, the four milk, the start, the first drops have more of a, certain buildup of fat to you know other ingredients and then the hind milk that comes afterwards has less and so the composition does has different effects so if you're yeah and you want
Starting point is 00:11:30 to you want to be careful because you want to express all the hind milk because if you don't then you can get a clogged duck because it hurts and you're like okay the min-maxing insanity there's you can dive forever into this level of oh no it's infinite just give the baby milk and when
Starting point is 00:11:47 the baby messy clean the baby and when the baby's sleepy put the baby in a in a that's it that's it and hug the baby but until baby good baby but it just it's for those for those mothers who have to dive deep into the item world they can just they can discover the disguise yes for the disguise the discaya mothers can discover more about the four milk hind milk day milk and night milk you know champion of the sun um yeah so proper like that's one of those words like, okay, those words erasing those from
Starting point is 00:12:22 immediately, just that's done. Wrote them down so I could bring them up today and never again. Fuck that. I have also, I guess, discovered the worst gacha system. My least
Starting point is 00:12:40 favorite... Worse than the Lubbubo's. My least favorite gacha system. All right, let's hear it. I'm calling it the diaper gacha system. oh that's right yeah because you never know what's waiting after you like you're like oh i think you know what willie you know what i'm gonna i'm gonna reverse this on yeah this is the best gatch assistant is it because with time and practice you go from i have no idea what's in
Starting point is 00:13:09 here to i will always know what's in here well okay where we're at you eventually get to the part where you can look at the child and be like I know what you've got going on So I've seen So that's the thing is I have seen There's there's always like you know You got you got one pull right and what is that That's the sound of you're hearing
Starting point is 00:13:30 And you go Oh Jesus Okay fuck right And then you know And then what comes next And you're like well other times You might see the knees bend a bit And you might see like a
Starting point is 00:13:45 you're like all right all right but you don't know for sure what's going on right um and so you know take a look
Starting point is 00:13:55 and I'm like that sounded bad let's let's waking you up is also a part of this process so changing is also a wake up so that's good let's get all you know
Starting point is 00:14:04 all over all emergency measures on the table you know um fucking red alert hazmat suit on battle battle stations are go uh da da da da
Starting point is 00:14:12 dot dot dot dot dot got the little got the diaper cream even needed if I see in the irritation and open it up and hey we're clean nothing in there that false alarm that was just a fart you know okay ha jokes on you I was waiting for you to open the diaper ambush yes so great that's a great gatcha system right and so I'm like awesome we got some good stuff going on there um and then like you know other times you're like okay well, it's been, it's been too long now, so I know, I know that there is a, a, a pity system
Starting point is 00:14:52 in play here where it's like, oh, we've gotten, we've gotten in the, we were in the clear for too long, so a reverse pity system is here and like, you put the baby down and it's heavier and you're like, ah, bro, one of the worst feelings, like, genuinely of, like, taking care of an infant is like you're supposed to have I think it was 12 to 14 dirty diapers a day in the early infant stage and was supposed to be like 8 to 10
Starting point is 00:15:22 wet 2 to 4 6 wets 6 wets and 6 wets and 6 wets and 3 dirties are what you're looking for in this face. Sorry I forgot the numbers but right and then you hit like day 3 and you're like Mm-hmm
Starting point is 00:15:37 there's trouble coming up yeah Oh yeah yeah Because it's, it's been too quiet out here. There's a, there's a trouble. There's a trouble coming my way. Storm's brewing, you know. And, you know, when you see the little glow of purple on the, you know, on the gate or the rainbow gate before your horse girl runs out, or you see the little purple overwatch coin shoot into the air. That little, that little, like, preview of a good thing is about to happen.
Starting point is 00:16:06 You even have that ability, because folks, what they have on the diapers, is on the bottom there's a yellow line and only when pee is detected that line turns blue you know so you can put the baby down and already get a preview of the color where you're like oh okay but if you're lucky it's just a blue line
Starting point is 00:16:31 and you open it up and you're like oh cool easy it's just pee you know I found that blue line to be totally useless I found it to be totally useless I find it very handy um so no here's the thing i found it i did find it handy and then i found it useless huh well how so um because it it becomes like well it you hit a point in which like to some degree the line is always okay so for us it's and then you're like well no now i'm actually just running it on a timer is it is it is it has it been 90 minutes okay to two hours change Okay, right?
Starting point is 00:17:11 Like every single time. Right now, it's, it's random. It's completely random. And because I'm recording everything, all the data is going down because we're counting it. Are you Excel spreadsheeting your child? It's not an Excel spreadsheet. It's an app, right? And it's an app that like basically goes, hey, it's been three hours, breastfeed now.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Right. And while you're at it, you can, there's a button that says change diaper. There's a button that says, when's the last time you did that? When's the last time you did a vitamin D drop, for example? You got to do one of those every morning, right? So just little things like that. And then one of, and it's like, and you can set reminders. So it's nice because you basically have like, this is, yeah, we got recommended to basically like track this type of stuff.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Because if you're going, wait, how many poops was it for the day? No, no, no, no, no. Stop, stop, stop. You don't know what you're talking about. If you have to count a certain number of peas, poops, feeds, changes cord cleaning because the umbilical cord has to fall off. And there's a number of cord cleans you have to do as well. There's a lot of data you need to track in the first couple of weeks of a baby's life that
Starting point is 00:18:23 if you're not keeping track of all that, you're not... You want to do the best job possible. You want to make sure that you're doing it. It's so weird because like we're at two different life stages here. and like I vividly remember I vividly remember me and page tracking everything but it wasn't we didn't we were running it down
Starting point is 00:18:42 we were just conferring with each other once last time you changed him I changed him and you know you'd look at your phone and timing I change him at X amount of hour when did you last change him I changed him at this time okay well how much time is that that was 72 minutes
Starting point is 00:18:57 okay that's time for change or check yeah I mean like but then that that segues into vibes. Yeah, later on, for sure, after a couple months, I'm sure. That segues into like a pat on the butt going, but the... Yeah, this, yeah, you need, you need a new one. So it's, the book is not here. I was going to grab for it. But there's a book that's like the guide, you know, for the provincial guide, it's like toddlers to tots. It's a thick book that has like all the things from pregnancy to delivery to postpartum and so on. And they give you, there's literally charts in there, right? And so
Starting point is 00:19:29 there's fact sheets and charts and things that are like on a day-to-day basis for, From the first, from day one to week one to week two, all these things, the number is changing. The color of poops is changing the amount of- Oh yeah. No, the color is crazy. And then also if you're feeding with a bottle, you need to know how many milliliters extra per day. So you're counting five extra milliliters per day up to a certain point. There's so much data that if you just go, nah, fuck it, I'm going to wing it, you're going to get a lot of that wrong. So all this to say that there's a number of, like, apps out there that track this stuff. And yes?
Starting point is 00:20:07 There, this is not necessarily an exact science down to the milliliter. Of course. You're not getting it wrong. Okay. If you're a single milliliter off. Okay. No, that's not what I'm saying or implying. However, there is a generalized, there's a lot of it that they keep open-ended where they're like,
Starting point is 00:20:25 we're not going to tell you that, like, some, some of the parts, because I also looked beyond this one we got I also just look online at others and some of them were like oh give your baby one ounce right if you're with a bottle at this place give your baby two right give your baby 60 milliliters or up to 90 or whatever the case is and there's a wide range and the idea is your baby will tell you how they're feeling about how much they got you'll know fairly easily fairly quickly how by how based on how they respond by based on the speed of how you feed them whether they're fussy afterwards and so on and diaper changes and everything. So you do learn about it. But they basically are giving you that range. And the, you know, fortunately, if you overdo it with like
Starting point is 00:21:07 feeding, for example, they'll spit up and it'll let you know, hey, they had too much, you know. But the point I'm getting at is the amount of things we're tracking here, when I look at the book they hand you, and it says, yeah, six wet diapers and at least three dirty diapers for starting on phase day five but like the day before that the numbers were all different and stuff I'm like okay so I'm using this app and counting that stuff out so when we're marking I see the blue line I go oh that's a wet diaper that's one of three for the day that were needed okay cool everything's on regular track now Willie I'm going to tell you something you're not going to want to hear which is especially because you're a numbers guy and you're you love to track
Starting point is 00:21:53 sometimes it won't be accurate or right or wrong sometimes it'll be out the window. Well, no, it's just laws of averages don't, don't preclude for outliers, right? So my guy was like a pound underway, well, not underweight, but he was like a little baby. And so you had to alter like the whole curve of the graph. You know what the nightmare graph is? You know what, oh, you know what the one that's fucked up is, is, is milestones for like speech and shit like that? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:20 It's assuming you have a little girl, which is fine for you because you have a little girl. girl but little girls are like eight months more advanced than little boys when they're like one and two and so you're looking at the fucking milestone you're like holy shit what the fuck oh wait no no he's a boy it's fine um yeah no i i and with with all of these things you know there's the heavy caveat of like everyone's different everything can go out the window of course but i just want to look and go like while we're tired and not paying attention to go like wait how many times did you pee yesterday oh shit shit once? Hmm, that's a little low. Okay, what about the day before that? Oh, seven?
Starting point is 00:23:01 Okay, we're fine. You know? As opposed to one, one, two, uh-oh. That seems pretty low. Let's call somebody and ask, hey, what do you think, you know? No, there's only, there was only one number on that whole chart that I got really worried about and it ended up being completely fine and we were worrying for nothing. But it was like, hmm, zero.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Zero. Okay. Zero. Okay. And then you're a day four and you're like, Hmm. All right, we're going to go down to urgent care. What's going on?
Starting point is 00:23:37 No, wait. Don't. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. No, there's a couple of those for sure. Yeah. There's, there's somewhere you look at it and you're like,
Starting point is 00:23:54 that doesn't seem right and then at one point the nurse is like okay um let's measure and then they pull out like a chart and start calculating graphs into the future and they go okay well on this date you had this number and on this date you had that number so based on this chart yeah you're fine and you're just like have you done the the like the height weight percentile graph weighing at like the health center we did yeah we did the the weight which is like the you know how much of your your birth weight do you get back to you know and so yeah we we we checked out some of those um we checked out uh i mean there's there's little things out there's like there's like um like jaundice numbers for like yellow scale and you're like
Starting point is 00:24:42 oh what are those numbers mean you know and then it's like yeah how much jaundice they got it's like okay well they're all gonna get some but yeah but how they all come out a little jaundice you know but then you're like and then that's got to get out of their system through peas and poops so then you're going to see yellow diapers for a while you know but for the most part baby pee is supposed to be clear right and then some crystals start showing up and you're like wait what you know so yeah wild shit overall but um anyway the the it's it's such a it's such a fascinating time because you're like looking at the floor and you're going uh every day's miracle i also yeah and you're
Starting point is 00:25:24 You mean it. The things that I hate are when like two very reasonable, two respectable sources of information conflict with each other. And then you go, ignore them both. Yeah. And well, I'm just like, okay, well, here's a stick. Now you two need to fight to the death and then the winner will be right. Because like even stuff where they're like, okay, we stocked up on pseudocrem, right?
Starting point is 00:25:50 And that's your diaper cream. And then it's like, okay, what do you need this for? And it's like, all right, well, if you see diaper rash start kicking in, diaper rash should only, and that shouldn't be a problem unless I think, you know, the baby skin is very sensitive or they're, you know, if there's too long between diaper changes, if you don't catch them quick enough, then they can start to get irritated and red and then rash up. So then you got to put some of that cream on. Yeah, the instant you see that red, you grease that baby up. Right. Well, okay, well, no, because one source said it's for rashes. So if you're on top of it quick enough and you don't see too many issues with the diaper change and irritation, then, you know, you're fine to just keep going regular and just pay attention to. And then the other person said, if you see any red at all, go for it, right? Grease them. And so I'm like, okay. Get that calendula cream and grease them. And then how do you apply? And then be looking at it. So there's two schools of thought. on whether to go preemptive on a lot of diaper cream or just like wait for the rash you know
Starting point is 00:26:52 looking online with the official usage of it trying to find you know what the middle ground is there's also a like some folks it's like okay so are you supposed to spread it thin and buttery across as much of the area and it's like no cream cheese it right just no man I'm I'm making a I'm making a Chicago style hot dog you're icing a cake you're icing a cake yes exactly you know and so that's what we're learning Like, like, I'm going to need to trade the child off to mom because I'm going to need to spend like, like, four or five minutes washing my hands. You're layering it on. So we got these spreading tools that are pretty handy, like, that stick to stuff.
Starting point is 00:27:28 So it's like you can quick grab and paste them up. But all this to say that it was, you know, unclear initially whether to apply to some red or some not. And I think we kind of went with. Let's, let's apply to the parts that. You can also go with your intuition to starting to get imitated. yeah um you're not an idiot no and and it's it's also going to be clear where it's just like ah if she's getting irritated by that if that feels bad or so then you're like oh well then yeah you should get some cream on that to make sure this doesn't get worse for sure you know
Starting point is 00:28:02 um anyway anyway all that all that is um it's it's it's it's interesting just like looking at this chart of of all these little things throughout the day and um the app admittedly because so the funny thing is that because charting all this information is like clearly two things that are useful for a lot of people is like charting all that info and also having a white noise machine so your can oh white noise machine's the best but like your camera has one built in your snoo has one built in the hatch has one built in and the snoo app has your diaper changer tracker metrics if you want to use it for that so does the camera like these all they're all offering all these things or whatever right but um the one i ended up going with was yeah one that a nurse recommended it and it's it's And it was pretty good in the end because basically me and Punch Mom can both just on the same app do things, track and update and put it things in. And like, again, you know, when you don't know, you don't know, audience. But here's how detailed, like, things get sometimes. When you're breastfeeding, they're going to ask you how much time on the left one and how much time on the right. And you're actually supposed to like start and stop so that you can get a feel for how much time on a particular.
Starting point is 00:29:16 side was spent and that'll give you a better indicator of because you can't measure how much they're swallowing because it's hidden from you from you so the time spent gives you an also they lie also they lie so you're getting a bet you're guesstimating according to the time spent and then as you alternate that also tells you more about like how the production is going to go because as you empty one boob out you got to get the other one in there and you need to rotate the whole thing so like It's actively a thing, you know. And let me ask you a more ideological question. Are you the type of person who the data relaxes or cause anxiety?
Starting point is 00:29:58 The data relaxes because I just don't need to remember it because I wrote it down, you know? Because for me, looking at the chart makes me feel like I have to do the chart perfect. And this is where the warnings came in about the sock, right? Because that outlet has got so much data, but there's a lot of warning from professionals on just like, if you are paranoid to begin with, this becomes a magnifier. So you have to be careful, right? The outlet has a lot of good. We loved our outlet, but the outlet has one purpose. and the purpose of the
Starting point is 00:30:42 outlet is, is the baby alive when you're not looking at the baby? That is the number one purpose of the outlet. Tracking their sleep and all that other shit is like it's all nice, but it's also not super reliable. But like, does the
Starting point is 00:31:00 outlet give me a heart rate or does it say zero or error? And so you can dive into these like threads where people are going hey I have an anxiety disorder I find myself staring for hours not able to peel away because I can't accept that the baby is going to
Starting point is 00:31:22 continue breathing when I'm not looking postpartum anxiety right and they're like I'm getting this outlet so that I can relieve myself of that anxiety and it's like okay that might help but it also might make it worse it depends how are you expressing that because there's also moments where the contact on their ankle might just separate and um that happens and it's far but but it's just it's just a mechanical failure
Starting point is 00:31:44 but it'll give you a thing going yo alert alarm you know and i dealt with that personally because during my diabetes study thing i was wearing a continuous glucose monitor and every once in a while i'd roll over and it would just like the contacts would fail and it would be and then that means all the sugar in your body yeah and so like it's beeping saying you're having an emergency go to the ER right now and I'm like actually I just rolled over and like my gut just kind of pushed the thing so that it stopped connecting properly
Starting point is 00:32:14 you know you know what the outlet did despite the fact that the outlet is not like a medical grade device and it's not to be used for this purpose it did have one very useful non is baby alive or not
Starting point is 00:32:31 thing where it's like the heart rate thing is pretty close and you can't take it as like a certainty but you can notice trends right and what you can notice which we noticed at a certain point which was like hey that's weird his his BPM is like 10
Starting point is 00:32:46 higher than normal okay across the board the whole night and he was fussy time for everybody in the house to get sick oh you like we got just the tiniest preview time for
Starting point is 00:33:02 everybody to get sick as fuck oh you can see it coming Damn, that's crazy. That's nuts. Wow. Okay. Yeah. Well, I mean, like, you know, in the end, that's useful to know. But consensus-wise and such, there was an overall thing that's just like, this is meant for a month and beyond anyways. So do not use it before a month. Is this the, you know, all the official recommendations and in general, like for people with their casual suggestions to. So. excuse me what I was going to say about tracking though is the like it is very easy
Starting point is 00:33:46 to use one of these apps though to become like the bad data parent where oh yeah because um okay things to track okay so right now
Starting point is 00:33:58 yeah hey that's awesome so right now I looked at it and I can see that um yeah hey right boob 14 minutes 31 seconds Good stuff, right? Happening right over there. Now, all that is there. Bottle feeds, diaper changes, vitamin D, you know, that you got to do. And then general weights, baths, and so on. But then as you scroll down into the other sections, it's tracking things like toothbrushing. It's tracking things like tummy time, crying, playtime, sleeping. And you're like, no, no, no, no, no, no. no no no no we don't need that level of granularity applied to to every activity in life it every activity in life does not need to be on the chart but it allows you to do that if you're that type of person you know um i mean look if you if it's something where you're like i need to it'll
Starting point is 00:34:57 have like vaccination doctor visit temperature et cetera if you need to you know that okay yeah vaccination do that yeah i mean we we got a phone call the week before all of our appointments. It was like, are you still on for your appointment? And we'd be like, yeah. And and to be fair, like, if you forgot to do tummy time today, right? Then it'd be nice to be like, oh, we did it. You know? Some kids just don't do tummy time.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Like, that's a cultural thing as well. Like, people in France don't do tummy time at all. But if you have other, but if you spend more time on the, like doing tummy time with a parent leaning on their back, then you're going to get that development naturally, right? So, depends on what your habits are. Like, I
Starting point is 00:35:33 spend a lot of my time with her like leaning on me so she's kind of doing tummy time that way anyway versus with mom like she's never in that position hold that thought we got we got some we got some some some young people who are like what the fuck is tummy time yes so hey uh what we're going to learn about as these days go on folks are the things that babies need uh one of the things babies need is tummy time where that is time spent on their stomach because generally speaking babies who sleep on their sides or on their face down have a way, way, way higher risk of SIDS, sudden infant death syndrome, where you're going to choke on spit up or a million other things
Starting point is 00:36:18 are going to go wrong, so don't do that. That's bad. You want babies to safely sleep on their back. In fact. But that means they're on their back almost all the time. Exactly, right? So swaddling them in, which means containing them and locking them in place so that they can't roll over and risk their lives by doing so is nice and safe.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Furthermore, when they spit up with their heads facing upwards or to the side like that, it's safer because, again, it's not going to block the air and come back up and choke them. Great. What you're getting from that, though, is also the soft spot on their head in the back and on the top needs to, like, even out by looking in both directions. So you want to make sure that they're getting enough rotation to, you know, not get anything going on there. Let me ask you a question. Does your daughter have a preferred side to sleep on? Her head, not yet, but her head is locking into place sometimes in a way where we're like,
Starting point is 00:37:09 yo, stop, let me turn you that way now. Dude. Oh, my God. And it's so strong. Hey, get, you got lots of time to do that because our guy was the same. It's like, I want my head over here. Like, no, I'm trying to even you have, you know. I don't want you to have like a square head.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Exactly. So what I'm doing is I'm uncollecting the latches on the snoo on the swaddle. And I'm flipping the baby upside down to make sure that she looks towards the fancy glowing light. with the heartbeat coming out of it to be like look look look look over here and it's like okay what's that good now make sure you curve out that side too you got to get both sides
Starting point is 00:37:42 but all this to say it's like a pancake man but all this to say that the weight distribution of you an adult generally speaking for you know for women it's in their hips for dudes it's in your shoulders
Starting point is 00:37:54 and chest area for babies it's all in the head and they're it's like it's like 99% yeah it's a bowling ball with limbs attached to it with with tape right so that means
Starting point is 00:38:09 a baby doesn't have the arm strength or shoulder strength or leg strength to push themselves up and move around you have to dev- They basically got nothing going. They have to develop that and the way you help them develop that is by putting them on their stomachs so that they do struggle to do these kind of push-ups and
Starting point is 00:38:26 learn to get the arm strength to manipulate and hold their bodies up as their head stops being the center of gravity for them. Yeah so the long and short of is you put your baby on the stomach and then you stand in front of your baby, you're sitting in front of your baby go, hey baby, look at me, look at me, look at me, and they go, I hate this, I hate you.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Yeah, it's like doing, it's like doing a plank, right, when working out. It's like, you, but it's necessary, right? So, yeah, that's tummy time. They hate it so much, dude. I look back on it and it's so funny, but I would get so upset
Starting point is 00:38:59 because, like, you have to do your tummy time and you get so mad. So she's like, you can hear her going and flopping to like position herself, but she's not crying as a result of it, thankfully. It will be about month three or four before your child discovers rage, and then you will see. I mean, we are getting four, we're getting different forms of, hey, hey, hey, hey, but it's not, yeah, yeah, yeah. Directed anger. You will see your little girl, look at you in your eyes, and you will see that she is,
Starting point is 00:39:33 mad at you for putting her on her tummy. Yeah, but it is necessary, right? That's what it is. You got to do planks. You got to get tummy time in there. Anyway, so, but like, keeping track of that is something. Look at this baby. Can't even train under one
Starting point is 00:39:51 Earth's gravity. What I want to know is like, when can we go do a Nirvana album, you know? Is that like immediately? Because they say scientifically, it's immediately where you can start. Well, I don't know if you're supposed to dunk the baby under the water, man. Yeah, that's the thing is.
Starting point is 00:40:07 And also, like, it's exhausting because the temperature change and all that stuff is a lot for them. They, you know, they got to go to sleep immediately afterwards. But it is cool that it's like, oh, well, they do open their eyes and can swim immediately. But I don't know if they should, you know. Anyway, so that's what's going on, you know. Diper Gatcha and baby metrics. Yeah, you're probably going to be just doing variations of this for about two and a half more months. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Yeah. Like I said, it's... And then you're going to get used to the sleep schedule. You're going to get used to it. You absolutely are. But it's that plus, again, like you're, like I said, you're working on spec. You're not getting any payment for this whatsoever. And then maybe in three to four months time, you'll get a smile.
Starting point is 00:40:58 And then you'll get your pay. You know? But there's not a smile to be. be had for a long time. So it's all just intern work. First of all, first of all, you've received the greatest payment of all, the knowledge that
Starting point is 00:41:13 you're a big man. Oh. Because like, I think, you know, like the boomer generation is so fucking stupid and they were always complaining all the time. But like, one of the things that I don't see a lot of people talk about, I'll use
Starting point is 00:41:28 my stupid dog here as a thing. When I was holding my little boy in my arms and I was like looking at him and he looked like me and I'm like I'm such a big man I made the baby yeah I'm so cool look at this cool thing I did
Starting point is 00:41:45 not you you're you're from the street but like but like yeah yeah no that's baked in yeah and then you're talking to your wife and you're like man you made a little person that's so crazy that's so
Starting point is 00:42:03 So crazy. Dude, we're like two years plus, and we're still looking at this little guy running around singing his, he's singing his ABCs now. And we're just looking at each other going like, oh my God, we made like a little guy. They're like, it's so crazy. No, like I'm, I was pointing out. I'm like, there was that, that thing that that that was inside of you. That was a person inside of you. You grew that. Yeah. That, that part is. I don't think ever going to make any sense. Oh, yeah, it's, it's, we're still at, like, exactly the same level of incredulity as we were at, like, one month. But there's, but I'm also like, can't I just shove the bottle in the umbilical cord? Can't I just, can't you just feed them the way that they wanted to be fed? That is not dad's purview. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:57 That is, I know. And, and there is that perspective of, like, everything is crying because once upon a time, the temperature. never changed. Like, I never got tired and I never got hungry because it all just showed up in my stomach and exist. Oh yeah, being out of the womb sucks. It's all it is. Yeah, it's just denying you like, um, the state of existence that was all taken care of and now one by one. There's weird guy here that is not mom. What's up with that? Yeah, yeah. One by one, there's things like hunger that exist now and temperature and you know light and dark and you know a million other bits i don't like this onesie oh we yeah okay well we got a little fancy this week and we went for a two-piece
Starting point is 00:43:46 outfit you know oh you're insane well it worked it was very cute it worked out um but there was definitely the like are you seriously expecting me to pull this over their head like what is wrong with you you know like we're we're at this the stage right now where we're like all right this shirt you hold up the shirt to the little man and we're like yeah this shirt he is not outgrown this shirt and then you go to put it on and you're like his head has outgrown this shirt because much like his dad my guy has a big ass head okay and so like he needs to wear clothes that are a little big for him just so he can get his noggin through the neck hole it's it's it's It's wild. And then, of course, the shirts that you have at this phase need to clip through the bottom. And, like, you know, that depends on how the diapers clipped and so on. We put socks on. And it was like, let's just, let's just entertain this idea. And it seemed to be fine, you know, for the most part for Punch Bomb. For me, she just would not keep her left sock on, you know? And she kept just kicking it off. And I'm like, okay, you know, whether it's just too small or too large or you just don't like it or whatever, that's a thing.
Starting point is 00:45:00 Um, but like if you, if they're down in a place where, so if they're not swaddled in and locked in with the sack or so, um, that kicked off sock suddenly is not just to, ah, she doesn't like it. That's loose bedding. And that's brr, brr, brr, brr, burr, loose bedding. You cannot have loose things, loose fabrics, loose anything in the, in the thing where baby sleeping. So, you know, you might idly just go, not think of that as much, but in the context of, of, of being in, the bassinet it becomes a huge problem um so yeah even just paying attention to that as well is anyway um you're doing a good job but we're doing stuff we're trying um i also hate that the camera um that we have it does the daytime nighttime view and at nighttime it switches to the black
Starting point is 00:45:55 and white you know like night of course it does yeah but with black and white you can't can't see spit up. So you'll hear like a gargle burp and you'll go look and see and it's actually nothing. It's fine. But other times there's spit up, but it's not, the contrast doesn't show up. Whereas in the day with the color it does. So sometimes she'll be crying and you're like, okay, what's going on? And it's like, oh, God damn it, there was spit up.
Starting point is 00:46:19 That's the problem because she hates the feeling of that happening. Just check 40 times an hour. Well, you just got to check 40 times an hour. Yes. That's correct. You know. Yeah. Anyway, that's...
Starting point is 00:46:32 Yeah, having the infant, it's like, surely there must be a better way. Nope. No, there isn't. I mean, there's... Do it the hard way. Well, there's parts where I'm just like... Oh, can we get like a moisture detectors or, you know, or just... It's your eyes.
Starting point is 00:46:48 Use your fucking eyes. Because it works fine half the day and then the other half it just fucking doesn't. Anyway, that's fine. I also learned the hard way to like, um, We were, like, carrying her out of the house, and I was like, okay, well, car seats, you know, and I'll just do that. It should be fine. We'll pull up, we'll park, and we'll bring her with us. But then we ended up parking a couple blocks away from the place, and you're like, ah, shit.
Starting point is 00:47:15 Hey, you know, that car seat's pretty fucking heavy if you've got to carry it more than five minutes. So all of a sudden, you're like, okay, fuck, we have to walk with a stroller that it clicks into that, you know, and you're making these mistakes, you know, just not thinking about it. Remember, okay, so you pulled out the cool, the cool, like, instant changing station that you drop to the floor and you go like, but da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da, and it's all there. Got one of those, right? Yeah. And those things are handy. But the ones I have at home have the belt that locks her in. So when she's Sonic the hedgehogging, I'm like, you stay.
Starting point is 00:47:52 You can clean that butt. And does your travel one have a stop rolling? strap no okay because i want to see if that exists i don't know if that exists it doubt it because i feel like because the travel one doesn't lock to the floor yeah yeah supposed to be using it on is a changing table and the changing table is supposed to have a strap but every changing table i've ever used had a broken strap okay so what you use is uh my uh my pro tip on how to make sure your kid doesn't roll off the changing table when you're changing them out of the house is to use your fucking arm to pin them to the changing
Starting point is 00:48:32 table and do the rest of the process with one hand this is one method this has been used i have gotten particularly good at putting a foot between each of these fingers and doing that you know so that they're all locked in with the one hand um but there's there's times where it gets fussier than others and you have to basically go for the um the hannibal lector you know strap them down and you stop spinning right now while we clean you up. If all else fails,
Starting point is 00:49:04 if all else fails, they can't fall down if you're on the floor. Yeah. I have various changing stations set up throughout the place and I'm getting down on the floor is difficult.
Starting point is 00:49:21 I can't work as well for that for me. It's just my knees kind of suck. Oh, yeah, you want to hear? Hey, let me ask you a guy. It's just... This might this might change your life because I made a mistake. I made a mistake learning to change diapers.
Starting point is 00:49:38 Do you change your, your baby's diaper with their head pointed to the left and their feet pointed to the right? I watched you do this. I watched you put, I watched you put him down and you were like, oh shit, wait. No, I have to be on the right side.
Starting point is 00:49:53 My kid's head has to be pointed left. You can't do it. You can't do it. I literally can't do it. I don't know how to do it. I've put them all, I was thinking about when that happened, and based on that I was watching, and I put them all in a sideways orientation, but I mostly am able to change from, like, facing the bottom, you know? So, and it works well for the, the scoop and contained process. Because I'm on autopilot at this point.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Like, I can, I can change a mean diaper in, like, 30 seconds as long as his head is pointed to the left. Yeah. No, I'm, I can do either or. I haven't done right side yet. But like, that's smart. It's versatility is going to be important. Yes. Um, also because you got to, you know, there's sometimes you're like, ah, shit. This is more than just a quick one. You know, it's, this is a, like, your entire waist down needs to be, like, fire sanitized, you know. Don't use fire on the baby. No, no fire on the baby. But don't, but. Bad to do. Yeah. No. No. No. You know. know, but it's just like, you got to get in there sometimes more than others, you know, and those are the ones where she also is being extra like, yeah, you know. You got to look at it from your perspective, right? It's like, I've never had a gigantic, like, a person 10 times larger than myself changed my poopie diaper. Well, actually I have, but I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:51:22 I wouldn't be super good to go for it right now let me tell you so thus Lou Kang bicycle kick while it's happening yeah anyway that's that's kind of the deal that's what's going on
Starting point is 00:51:37 I attempted to play half an hour of jump king and jump king jump king is a game where you are a night and there's a Babe at the top of the tower
Starting point is 00:51:53 and you got a jump to get to her and you can hold the button to do a long jump or you can tap it to do a small jump but once you're jumping you cannot change your trajectory in the air there's no DIY oh interesting yeah I'm looking at it this looks cool Mori was talking about it yeah and there's an old man at the bottom that's like
Starting point is 00:52:16 ha I remember I tried to jump out there once and I fell down and never tried again good luck and he talks shit about you every time you fall back down. Sick. And so, yeah, you're doing a, like, almost getting over it, Bennett Fawty-style streamer challenge game because it's very easy to fuck up the jump and fall back to the bottom.
Starting point is 00:52:40 And it gives you some variation because you can walk left and right and control the height of your jump. But you just, you must jump the correct perfect height and hold left or right or neutral. I'm watching a video of a streamer just falling the entire length of the world. Shit sucks.
Starting point is 00:52:57 He's not happy about it. Shit sucks. Mm-hmm. It's one of those. It's one of those. Also, you can get up to one pixel on a surface and the rest of you is floating off of it. And so you have to make those types of jumps too as well.
Starting point is 00:53:12 So, you know, you know what? You know what's going to be really interesting goals? Mm-hmm. Right now, you're weak. is going to be, ha, a baby, right?
Starting point is 00:53:23 But in a couple of months, particularly if you're, because you're going to be doing the night shift, like switching back and forth stuff for a long time, right? You're going to notice there's going to be a really specific period from like that three to nine months. You're actually going to get in like a ton of game time.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Like a ton. But the difference. Because you're going to be going for like, three, four naps a day but it's gonna and you're gonna just have the human placed in the crook of your arm
Starting point is 00:54:00 like so for video people and you're gonna learn to get real good at this but the question is is it is it gonna be like quality time you know like certainly. Oh absolutely. Because like I cannot like I cannot play fighting games without being fully locked in like that and like Oh absolutely no just just
Starting point is 00:54:18 just lock in your arm and get child comfortable or even action games where it's like having the baby monitor I'm like yeah you want something where you can kind of be distracted you know I put in a crazy amount of uh of was it street fighter
Starting point is 00:54:36 street fighter I think it was street fighter I put in a crazy amount of street fighter when that guy was like six months old okay okay well yeah once the once the cycle begins to get regular we'll see how things shake up you know um but for example this week i was like oh man i'm seeing some fucking shits going on with lost soul aside let me check that demo out and then i didn't get to you know oh man i i had such a strange experience with lost soul aside was like oh that's coming out
Starting point is 00:55:04 good for that guy i hope it's not shit yeah and then i just waited for other people to play it and then other people were like oh wow it's shit i saw i saw a clip of a combo happening against a bunch of enemies that were not attacking and... That's my favorite type of enemy, man. Yeah, so the enemies were not attacking
Starting point is 00:55:28 and then there was a big combo sequence and throughout the entire thing there was just no hit stop or wait to anything and I was like, oh no! You're making like that one crucial mistake that from day one should be
Starting point is 00:55:47 solved for a game that's been in development this long, like, how do you not know that you got to have the weight of impact on something? Because it's a one-person game, man. You know, like that specific pause right, right as you're doing, you know, your high timing, you know, and if you're doing so with, or you're streaking and you're doing so with a rev off Nero, and there's like a little hit stop on the hit, and it's like, oh, you know, that, That little impact moment is so important. And to not get those when you're swinging at things is like, it's crucial to making it feel good. So I was like, damn, that sucks.
Starting point is 00:56:28 And kind of just, I'm like, what are people saying? How's this going? And between the demo and full purchase, sounds rough. Sounds rough. They did, he was one guy, but then, yeah, China did invest, right? it became part of the team China Hero Joy Fund thing. Yeah, apparently they scrapped like most of the game's story
Starting point is 00:56:53 like a month before it came out. Well, all I know is at a certain point the team expanded, they got and they put a whole lot of money into it to be like, yo, let's make this a premiere title. And for all the cool, like, stylish moves the character has been doing over the years and, you know, it's seven, eight now.
Starting point is 00:57:16 I think that it's been yeah you just you don't want to fuck up that combat like impact feeling I guess what Wally there's no time left in your life for mid no no no no
Starting point is 00:57:33 there is no time left for mid the bottom the bottom tier there is only time for peak yeah no the ice climbers level of quality has scrolled too high up like we are we can't be looking down there um you know there was a it kind of rules though it actually kind of rules like really good because you're like yeah oh man because you remember when you were a teenager and you're like oh
Starting point is 00:57:57 there's nothing to play because i played everything like literally everything that exists and now it's the opposite i don't even have time to touch all the game of the year nominees well to be perfectly honest like i wouldn't have anything to say or care if i have not been hearing about this game for the last decade, right? Because if, like, Wukong came out and it were not greater, there are problems, I'd be like, okay, whatever, just some random action game came out
Starting point is 00:58:23 and there's nothing to say about it. But the whole, like, this was a Twitter game that one person was doing on his own and look at this noctus-looking dude and, oh, it's getting its own identity and it's changing things up a bit, but it's a fan of character action
Starting point is 00:58:37 that's, like, putting in pieces of DMC and putting in pieces of Bayo and other things that they find really stylish. And you kind of are like, yeah, you go indie heroes i want to you know you want to cheer that on when you see that like um we shall wake back in the day you know and stuff like that like yeah i kind of am always like rooting for the games that are being developed via tweet over the course of a couple years where they're like okay this time the stop sign guy can launch the stop sign combo and do a big
Starting point is 00:59:08 hammer thing you know or the frog one or the tank one etc like the win rate on that specific genre of game is fucking dog shit. It's low. It's low. It's low. It's low. It's low. I can't even think of one. But, but. No, Ultra Kill. Altricil. Aside from Ultra Kill, I can't think of
Starting point is 00:59:29 one that I saw in that context. I'm going to count. It's not an action game. It's not a character action game, but I'm going to count BloodBorn PSX. You know, I first saw... That doesn't count. It's free. Yeah. You're not counting.
Starting point is 00:59:44 You mean paid only? I mean paid. Oh, okay. I mean paid. No, I was just saying games that I discovered via dev tweets in, in sandbox environments that eventually became real products that shipped. Because everything about like the quality metric and the judgment changes when the money dollars happens. Yeah, but also, for me, I'm more just going like how many of them released, how many of them came out, you know? Um, if, oh,
Starting point is 01:00:15 Signalis was shown as a dev, uh, tweet game. Okay, I never, that's cool. I never saw those. Um, I saw a trailer at a show. Okay. But yeah, no, so, so that, that's kind of it. It's like, I feel like, ah, lost soul aside was, you know, this like one. More like lost soul move aside.
Starting point is 01:00:34 It was this one her, it was this one Herculean effort being put in, you know, um, by one person. So it's a bummer to see that, like. It's like, ah, shit. It's making these really easy, basic action game mistakes after all this time. So we're, you know, wamp, wamp, wamp, womp, wamp, womp, wamp. And, yeah, and again, there is that part of me, because I did also see people going, like, I know he still looks like Noctus, but trust it's, it's different and stuff. You're like, okay.
Starting point is 01:01:10 Yeah? You know. I'm basing a character action game based off the troubled developed Final Fantasy game that ended up releasing as an even more troublesomely developed Final Fantasy game Here comes my game Game that had troubled in developments And had weird combat with no hit stop I did it
Starting point is 01:01:33 I did it He did it He did release Final Fantasy versus 13 He really did yeah yeah you have to know you have to know about hit stop you have to know you can't get that far and not know one of the best pieces of advices i've ever received in my life didn't apply to me at all because i'm not a creative person who makes things uh but it was like hey you know that great idea you've had the idea that you've thought about since you were like five years old
Starting point is 01:02:03 and the one you've been working on and you've had all the backstory for and you've uh you've been you've been dreaming about making it for your whole life. Yeah, don't make that your first project. Because your first project's going to have problems. And you don't want the pinnacle, your magnum opus to be the one that has all the problems. You want the project that you make at the end of your career. Or middle. Fine.
Starting point is 01:02:26 Fuck it. Middle. So to be the one that you have the experience to actually like, like manage. Like look at, um, Mr. Toby Fox. Right? Toby Fox Delta ruins the actual goal Undertale was the practice run
Starting point is 01:02:41 So drawing for the trash bin Is what we learned about in art school Right is like literally learning to To make projects and expect them to go nowhere Just to get all those failures out So that you can learn how to do the process better If you have a pretty good idea Then saving it for that
Starting point is 01:02:57 When you're ready, when you're capable of executing it properly Is good However for some It's relative for some people it's better to expect that first project to just have huge problems and fail and know and like know that what you develop way later is going to be a lot better because you'll have the practice by that point, right? So being willing to let go is also an equally valid skill to learn and to just be like
Starting point is 01:03:24 this is going to getting this out and being done with it, like warts and all is just as important, you know, to being willing to like start the next thing. and improve where you made mistakes before. Yeah, you could call that the cojumbo method where you just make the same game like 15 times in a row and just learn from the last time you made that game. Well, no, I'm not saying to make the same thing every time.
Starting point is 01:03:50 But, you know, there were, like, like I remember in literally an art school with a bunch of students and people that were working on comics and stuff, how a lot of folks had their dream comic idea. And it was kind of like, yeah, just make a version of that that you can get out and finish and be done with so that you can get it off your chest in a way because the problem with for some people holding on to that dream idea the whole time it kind of like eats away at you
Starting point is 01:04:16 inside as this thing you know and like in many cases it can be a motivator because you're like the whole thing about not telling people about an idea is good because it makes you want to work on it harder to show the world because you can deflate your motivation by telling people the cool parts without actually doing them and when they pat you on the back and applaud for you and tell you how cool that idea was you go yeah and then you never actually have to work on it right um but it's not universal everyone's kind of different you have to learn about your own creative methods your own self and like if you feel like you know you're somebody who's um if you trust in your ability to come up with something that you want to say later on when you've learned more about the medium that you're working in
Starting point is 01:05:00 then you can take the cool idea you have and get it out the door and just accept that version of it and then move on to the next thing that inspires you or that you're interested in working on but there's also people I know who are in death spirals holding on to that one project that they'll never let go of
Starting point is 01:05:16 15 years later and it actively ruins your life Hey Willie Yeah What if you just made the same thing from 1996 to like the 2020s.
Starting point is 01:05:34 Are you making... And you just made the same game nine times in a row. Does it sell millions of copies every time you do it? It starts too near the end a little bit. Well, you're already doing better than 99.9% of other people trying to do that.
Starting point is 01:05:55 And what if you lost the rights to that game every single time? And so you had to put a goofy little prefix in front of all your games. So you call the first one Xeno Gears and then you leave that company and you completely lose all the rights to everything you made. So then you go to work for a new company and you call it Zeno Saga and then you make three of those and then you leave and you lose all the rights to literally every single fucking thing you made. and then you go to work for another company and you make Zeno Blade and you're like hey
Starting point is 01:06:34 hey I think we got it this time I think we did it I think we actually did it so I beat Zeno Blade over the last week I beat Zeno Blade 1 Chronicles Did they do it Did they finally do it? I have never seen
Starting point is 01:06:54 a more obvious excuse of we're like Like, no, we'll just do it again. Yeah. Well, now we'll just do it again. At about the 50, 60% mark, I started just looking at the screen and going, I can't believe they're literally just going to do Xeno Gears again. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:14 Plot points so specific, there are no other games that I have ever seen do them, but these games. And they're just doing them again. like exactly the same and they're so smart about it so zeno gears takes place on a far off alien planet but it's humans right zeno saga takes place in space but it's the same humans and you do where who and zeno blade takes place on a far off planet and it's still humans kind of and they all exist just a little bit outside the range that the other games could see So even though we lost all the rights to everything, there's nothing in any of them that would directly contradict anything in the other ones. So even though it's owned by Square Inix and Bandai Namco and Nintendo,
Starting point is 01:08:15 you could just be like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Zinigures is totally happening. We just don't turn the camera over the three degrees you would need to see what's happening in Zinniguer's. But it's over. that's definitely sick sick i mean if you want to you can go full on massinger zero with it and just have these outlines of the shapes that of things you recognize if you want to shadows yeah you could have some really wildly specific shapes yes yes to appear there we go yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:08:48 yeah really important uh metaphysical gnaustic influences that just happened to be an incredibly specific shade of metallic red and seafoam energy green on literally everything of a certain nature. You can just do that. Amazing. Amazing. Can't stop you. You could have the symbolic X in every single
Starting point is 01:09:14 green, in every single game be offset in a really specific way that only the Zeno games do. You could just start naming things after things. you found in the Bible or the Torah or the Kabbalah or any Gnostic text that you read in high school and went, whoa, that sounds cool. I'm going to put it in, just like Evangelion did. Love it.
Starting point is 01:09:41 So I beat Xenoblade Chronicles in 40 hours as part of my B-lining series in which I only did content that was directly in front of me and just went straight ahead the entire time. um that is 12 and a half hours below the average time on just the main story on how long to beat so like i zoomed through that bitch like i like as fast as you can go do you have a calculation on side quests completed versus skipped uh i i picked up side quests that were next to me Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:22 And I did side quests that were in my way. But do you know if that was like 10% or just? I don't know. Okay. 20%? Okay. Fucking 30. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:10:33 I intentionally did one because it was the only one in the entire game that had voice acting. Okay. Yeah, people are saying like 1%. Total. That's a really good game. That's a really, really fucking good game. That is the type of good game that I can see if you played it when you were 10 could become like a not insignificant amount of your personality. No, if you played it right after you had played Zeno Gears and you waited long enough to be frustrated at it not getting a sequel.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Well, here's the thing, Zeno Gears did get a sequel. It was called Zeno Saga and they're actually really bad. well that's the problem okay yeah um so that that kind of salted the earth on it a little bit uh yeah no that's a really really really really excellent good game uh the the switch version the definitive edition makes a bunch of changes that are quite excellent um that's it's um it's it came out in like 2010, 2011, around then. And it does like a really specific RPG
Starting point is 01:11:56 plot line way better than a much later Final Fantasy game. Okay. And it's like the same villain just executed on like a much, much more consistent and more interesting level.
Starting point is 01:12:13 Monolith is like Nintendo funded, right? A second party at this point? It got, it was complicated for a while. but they are just now an intent. Yeah, okay. Yeah. And it's like from a musical perspective,
Starting point is 01:12:31 from a cast perspective, from a storyline perspective, it is just top to bottom like a universally excellent game. There is a bunch of weird systemic nonsense, like the SideQuest system is still terrible, and the gem forging system for upgrades is still, like a mess there's also
Starting point is 01:12:54 there's a system called heart to heart in that game which is interesting but like remarkably poorly like introduced and made so basically what it is as you do side quests
Starting point is 01:13:10 with a certain party or as you do battles with a certain party so say you're playing as the main guy Shulk who is in smash and say you've got Dunban who is the mentor character and Ricky, the cute little mascot guy, right? And say you do a bunch of quests, that will increase these characters' affinities, right?
Starting point is 01:13:28 It'll be like a sad, it'll be like a sad face, and then like a, like a lion across the mouth of space, and then like a green happy face and like a blue, really happy face and like a purple ecstatic face, right? And that shows you how their affinity is, how much they get along, right? Well, there's what's called a heart-to-heart sprinkled all over the game, and what those are is like, hey, when you have green affinity between Ricky and Dunban, you'll be able to go to the heart-to-heart, and they'll be able to have a little chat. And you'll be able to find out Dunban will ask about Ricky's kids,
Starting point is 01:14:01 and Ricky will ask Dunban about how his arm is feeling, and that kind of thing, right? Like skits in the tales games? Absolutely, just like skits in a tales game. There's only one problem with the heart-to-hearts in Zeno Blade, despite the fact that they're interesting and their story content is like very interesting thematically and there's a lot of stuff that you would find out in those like people had to tell me that so and so had like an entire romantic subplot that I just completely missed because I didn't do their heart to heart right the problem is is that every single one I encountered in the game was locked when I got to it literally every single one was locked every single one I got to was like like, hey, this is a heart to heart between Melia and Rhine when they are maxed out on affinity.
Starting point is 01:14:54 And I went, I don't have Melia and Rhine in my party. And I never will. So I guess this shit will just never get done, ever. And then I'm like, well, I rolled me, Ricky, and Dunban for like, sorry, show Ricky Dunban for like nearly the whole game, right? and I'm like okay and I'll get to like hey here's one between Ricky and Dunband
Starting point is 01:15:19 locked until max affinity dude this is like 50% through the game I'm not coming back to this hmm like so this is anti B-Lining mechanics oh it's it's super like hey when you increase your affinity
Starting point is 01:15:33 why don't you roll back on on every area in the game and see what heart to hearts you've unlocked and I'm like this this sucks how about you just have the fucking skits available when they fucking feel like it.
Starting point is 01:15:48 How about that? How about I don't have to grind out characters in battles or side quests so that I can find out that Ryan and Mellia don't get along or whatever the fuck it is. And then I recently started playing the DLC called Future Connected, or it's not DLC, it's an extra
Starting point is 01:16:05 episode that came with the definitive edition. And they rolled that back. They're like, okay, heart to hearts don't have anything to do with affinity. They had to do with story progress. so as you hit certain limits of the story, you just do them whenever the fuck they want. Just do them. Yeah, that's...
Starting point is 01:16:18 And they also gutted the whole, um, they gutted the whole, um, gem system. It's very interesting playing a DLC episode that came out like after its own sequels because they're taking like lessons learned from like Xenoblate 2 and its DLC and backporting them into Xenoblade 1. Hmm. Okay.
Starting point is 01:16:39 Because like, uh, the future connected came out. after Xenoblade 2 and its own DLC, but it's for Zeno Blade 1. So it's like a little preview of the sequels and how they work. Huh. Did they sell it like that? It's part of the definitive edition
Starting point is 01:16:58 on the switch. There's something else that I need to talk about Xenoblade, which is really interesting to me. So you remember what Xenoblade 1 looks like. It looks like Shulk and those guys, right? Yeah, the Monado and, you know, J-R-B-G. R-P-G-ing it, yeah, yeah. Boy, they say the word Monado a lot.
Starting point is 01:17:18 Oh, my God. Oh, my God, the Monado. It's crazy. You would not believe the amount of different types of British accents you could hear say the word monado. Oh, yeah, every corner. There's Northerners and Southerners and Cockneys and... It's bananas. Eastenders.
Starting point is 01:17:38 But, and then you remember what Xenoblade 2 looks like. And Xenoblade 2 looks like some anime gooner shit. Yes, with the gacha and the costumes and the dating your weapons. And all the hentai artists did all the gacha shit. Yeah, big ludes. And I was always so confused. I'm like, what? That's so strange.
Starting point is 01:17:57 Why did they go from like what looks like of a fairly normal looking JRP that looked classy? And then they were like, hey, you know what? We should put in our game a bunch of asses and titties. right just just big old titties all over the place and then i hit like the 60 or 70% mark in xenoblate and discovered that the only difference between those games is where those characters live in terms of progression because you hit you hit like the 60 70% mark in fucking xenoplade chronicles one and you start getting some characters you start getting some fucking
Starting point is 01:18:43 oh yeah yeah okay sure sure sure right and they're just they just got all that shit out there and they're just pandering to everything well I'm just remembering all over the place I'm just remembering how every single one of those persona games that I played had at some point that steel bikini you're gonna unlock for the party you know like no matter what no matter who you
Starting point is 01:19:07 no matter what their energy is or who what you think of them. That's going to be one of those things that you're going to unlock. Yeah. Okay. So it was there. It was there. Yeah. It was there all along. It was there, but it was only for people who got deep enough into the game. And that makes Xenoblay 2 look way more normal by comparison. Because
Starting point is 01:19:23 they're like, well, you beat ZenoBlade 1. You know what we got hiding back here. So let's just put it up front for y'all. Yeah, as long as like, if there's sincerity to your horny, you know? If I believe in it, then all right. Also, like, it's one of those
Starting point is 01:19:39 things. Like Xenoblay 2 has a character called Rex in it and everybody makes fun of him because he's got a bad voice role because he didn't get enough time to do it. But also he looks like a weird little weirdo with assless chaps in his weird diving suit and he looks like a freak.
Starting point is 01:19:56 And then like you, the reality of like a single screenshot later finding out that he's the impregnator like completely changes his character before you need to get to him in Xenoblay 2.
Starting point is 01:20:12 Got it. Okay. Is this one of those things where the game itself is like not that horny, but it's just the aesthetics of these characters? The game itself is not horny at all. Right, right. Okay. At all. It's just what they're wearing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:28 It's just, it's just, well, okay, let me, let me rock that, roll that back. The game itself is not horny at all. except for a couple of cutscenes where the camera decides to get super horny. Okay. Yeah. No, none of the characters. No, that still counts.
Starting point is 01:20:48 That still counts. But the camera's like, you know what we need to do? We need to pan during this conversation. Yeah, we need to pan right here. If God is horny, then the game is horny.
Starting point is 01:20:57 That still counts. Yeah. But yeah, no, Xenoblade 1 is great. I had a great experience just flying through that fucking game. uh it was really interesting this might be the first r pg i have played in my life in which i was fighting bosses underneath their level the first time like like like fighting a boss that was like level 80 and i was like level 76 and having a final boss in a jrpg in which i had to actually fight my shit off instead of just completely roll over them as intended yeah as
Starting point is 01:21:36 intended struggle and just barely get past that finish line. It took me like 10 tries to beat the final boss of Xenoblade. Huh. Isn't it? And I had to really like like clutch it out. Isn't it fun to like? It is actually fun. Have a tense battle. Yeah. Yeah. No, it is.
Starting point is 01:21:53 It was weird though. It was very strange. You know, that game that game's great. That games, that game's super good. I would I would advise everybody who likes RPG to play the Xenoblade Chronicles. um um um chronicles not xenoblade um zeno blade's actual title is xenoblate chronicles
Starting point is 01:22:17 oh okay okay they literally all have the title xenoblate chronicles okay sorry then i was missing it up because i thought it was like xenoblade xenoblate chronicles and then x chronicles X. So it goes Xenoblade Chronicles, Xenoblate Chronicles X, ZenoBlade Chronicles 2, Xenoblate Chronicles 3. Oh. But that's not what it actually does.
Starting point is 01:22:41 What it actually is is Xenoblade Chronicles, Xenoblade Chronicles Future Connected, which is its extra episode, then ZenoBlake Chronicles X, then ZenoBlade Chronicles 2, then ZenoBlake Chronicles 2,
Starting point is 01:22:57 the Undiscovered Country, then it goes Xenoblate Chronicles 3 Xenoblate Chronicles 3 future redeemed so Zeno Gears was supposed to be episode 5 in a six episode series
Starting point is 01:23:14 and then when they made Xenoblate Chronicles what they did is they made one main game and one DLC for each of them so now it is a six episode series okay and definitive edition Xenoblade Chronicles collects the DLCs for each respective game.
Starting point is 01:23:32 No, no, it's just the first game. Okay. Just play one, two, three. And then if you want robots, you play X. But there's a Zeno Blade Chronicles X definitive edition that is coming, came out? That came out. Yes, right, okay, yes.
Starting point is 01:23:46 And there's a very significant possibility that in 10-ish days there will be a Nintendo Direct where they announce switch two versions of these games. That is a gut feeling I have in my ass. There is a possibility that they may put out Switch two versions of these games. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:24:16 I always thought about it from... I don't know. Okay. As somebody that was like fairly, you know, like I'm like mid-interested, but not a ton. I always thought that if I jumped in, perhaps I'd consider the one where you had the mecca move like as the main so that one exists totally separate from the other three which is why I was thinking about yeah that's it I've heard
Starting point is 01:24:39 I've heard that before and I was like okay that seems like something I would enjoy doing you know but eh either way the interest is not like super duper high um cool all right be lining successful absolutely well the irony of course is that Xenoblade 3 is one of those games from like I was told you know when someone tells you hey even though it's got a title that has a number in it. Don't worry. You don't have to play the other ones. Oh, that's cool.
Starting point is 01:25:02 Cazina Blade 3 looks like the one that's like really, really cool and the one that I would want to play the most. And then I, like, looked at the game's title screen and the title screen is a mashup of the first two games title screens. And I'm like, I don't believe anyone who told me that. That seems like a massive lie.
Starting point is 01:25:24 Yeah. That seems like a big lie. So gotta go through them if you want to get to that third one. Gotta do it. Man, this dog is ugly and stupid. Cool. Anything else this week? Yes.
Starting point is 01:25:46 I played an early access copy of the game, Hell is Us yesterday. Oh, I've been seeing that pop up in the news. Yeah. So Hell is Us. had a demo a little bit ago and the demo was it was mid so it had like a lot of delay so it's a soul's game is it's like it controls like a soul's game but this is the it was this is the one that it's a soul's game but the trailer looked like a strand game at home yes yeah so uh let's just
Starting point is 01:26:19 go for structure wise in terms of your buttons uh it's more or less a soul's game you equip things more or less like a soul's game, that kind of thing. And it's weird hook is that you're like infiltrating a like isolated country that's in the middle of a civil war. Okay. And the demo
Starting point is 01:26:43 did not leave me with a favorable impression because there was just a weird amount of delay on all of your attacks. Like it had like like 80 milliseconds of like input delay on your strikes. And it like felt quite bad that is no longer the case
Starting point is 01:27:00 for the full release it actually it feels nice and snappy it controls well so I got way farther into it it is absolutely dedicated to a feeling of being
Starting point is 01:27:15 lost and feeling weird and being strange and unknowable it's a relatively uncommon setting it takes place in like a fictional Eastern European country in like 1993, 1993, 1994
Starting point is 01:27:30 in the middle of the Civil War. And so it's like, it's not modern, but it's like it's the 90s. Okay. And there's like modern military around, but you are still fighting weirdo alien monster freaks with
Starting point is 01:27:47 a magic sword. And the long and short of it is that it has like an aggressive lack of any quest system or map system. it just literally says hey figure it out find it do whatever like you get a quest somebody talks to you remember where they are because the game's never going to tell you ever again um and you wander around and uh you start to explore and talk to a lot of NPCs actually in this this war-torn
Starting point is 01:28:17 civil war country and it is the darkest subject matter i have ever encountered in a video game bar none, because the blueprint for the game's setting is Yugoslavia slash Bosnia. And the Civil War is actually a pretext to ethnic cleansing. Okay. And every single NPC you encounter is a victim of it in one direction or another. And we'll tell you just how bad it's gotten. And it is the worst. Okay.
Starting point is 01:29:00 It is the worst content I have encountered. And very little of it is like shown to you directly. Yeah. Most of it is discovered after the fact. Yep. Or told to you by things. It is a ethnic conflict between two groups called Sabinians and the Palomists. And they are just doing everything you could ever imagine.
Starting point is 01:29:27 imagine two groups that can't get along would do to each other. Yep. So the backdrop is genocide, even when it's not at all times as a cons. Yep. Yep. And the game is called Hell is Us,
Starting point is 01:29:41 and it is absolutely nailing the thematics of that because me talking to NPCs in town was like harrowing and stressful. And then when I left town to fight actual honest, to God, hell beasts, I became relaxed and chill. Jeez. Like, talking to the NPCs is given like harrowing mood music. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:11 And feels like a nightmare. And going out to kill monsters is like, like musicless and just like chill video games. Demons, please. More hell demons, please. Yeah. Okay. Right. It is fascinating.
Starting point is 01:30:27 um have you how stressful it is to talk to people on that game have you played um necrumunda or mordheim i played necrumunda i have not played mordheim okay is mordheim the game you are thinking of uh it's the it's the games that that um rogue factor made okay uh oh okay yeah i played necramenda i did not play mordheim okay uh this is a massive step up over nekhine i was going to say yeah i i was going to say this yeah this looks and sounds nothing like, you know, previous efforts, yeah, okay. It was like, for an example, I had somebody come into the chat going, hey, man, this game looks good, but I have, like, some issues with, like,
Starting point is 01:31:11 PDSD are revolving around, like, ethnic cleansing and genocide. Should I go or should I leave? And then I turned a corner to find a mass grave with an excavator broken down next to it. And they're like, okay, I'm out of here, bye. And, like, they made the right decision. Like, it is unrepentantly miserable and heavy and upsetting. And that's a decision that was made. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:36 Okay. Yeah. Um, as for the game part, um, it's really interesting. There's a lot of wanders. Like the, it's like, you know, like a soul's type area, but it's actually a really large, wide open space in, like it's not Eldon Ring, but in a good way? Yes. No, in a good way.
Starting point is 01:31:57 Okay, okay. Like, you're going through a lot of farmers fields or marshes or woods and, uh, sewers and whatnot. Because again, when you're mortal shell, you know. Yeah. It's a lot, it's a lot better put together than mortal shell. Okay. Um, it's, it's really interesting because it feels like a really, really, really grounded, like horrible place. But then monsters attack you.
Starting point is 01:32:24 okay like and then you discover that they have like a like you know it looks like you know an eastern european country in the 90s but then over that corner is the uh 2,000 foot tower monument to evil just happens to be over there you know like it's it's very strange um really cool very strange extremely heavy and upsetting um yeah i feel like when we saw the initial trailer it was yeah again that the strandiness of it was none of this played at all when when we saw that trailer no and i and i couldn't tell if it was walking around and then horror happened or like you action for the most part in a horrory setting or so but um yeah you're you're doing sword play and spin attacks and stingers absolutely yeah so yeah okay uh it's it's a very
Starting point is 01:33:24 game it's it's an incredibly strange game um i think it's really really really cool um it is not the best put together game like the combat isn't as good as like a dark souls or a light as a p it's it's just not right um but the themes make up for it's it's still pretty good okay right um and it's it's absolutely totally unique setting really does a lot to carry it. Super cool game. Don't know if I'm going to go back to it. It's like legitimately like a massive downer. Like yeah, like you're playing it and you're like these guys set out to say something and they're saying it really effectively and it's affecting me and I kind of want
Starting point is 01:34:17 it to stop. If that makes any sense. Yeah, no, no. So like chat showing up and going, ooh, I don't know if I should be here. Yeah. That's fair enough. I had like maybe four or five people say, should we put like a content warning on this? And I'm like, well, the Twitch automatically put in the mature content warning on it, right? And they're like, yeah, but there's mature and then there's this.
Starting point is 01:34:43 Yeah. Well, I mean, I'm reminded of like talking to Cortner and disco where game. Yeah, it's very much like that. narrators like do you want to continue are you sure an entire settlement of that guy to talk to yeah yeah yeah okay mm-hmm sucks yeah cool but uh but cool it's it's a it's a it's a it's a weird fucking game uh i also did a uh stream where i rated uh my audience's pets uh they're very cute they're all very good cute animals you did a you did a pet rating stream
Starting point is 01:35:24 I did a pet rating stream page was like you should do a pet rating stream and I'm like okay and what was your metrics they're really cute and nice yeah okay okay did you I stopped rating them immediately and just started going oh well I was about to say right did you do the thing
Starting point is 01:35:40 almost like the rate my my pet or rate the dog accounts where it's like what the fuck you're gonna do actually put a number on that you monster absolutely you psych besides it doesn't even matter I I have the best pet. I have both best pets. The caboose is right here
Starting point is 01:35:56 and he's dumb and ugly. I love you. And Elmo's old. He's so old. What else I do? Let's see. I played the new Shinobi game. Art of Vengeance. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That game's
Starting point is 01:36:12 great. That game is like a big budget, wildly expanded version of something like ninja guide and rage bound. It's really weird how it's like the exact same game, but bigger
Starting point is 01:36:27 and cooler and twice the price to be fair. Yeah, it's like a $50 game. But that's that's what you call it, right? Lizard Cube. Yes. Streets of Rage 4 people. Right.
Starting point is 01:36:44 Yeah. No, the both, the timing is wild on both of those things coming together they're so, so, um, some close together, but both look awesome, man. Uh, they're both great. I've played them both now. Um, uh, Shinobi, it's like, it's art is like lavish. It is in love with its own art and it really deserves it. It's also a really strange setup. It's like 10 little mini-metroids. Hmm. Like, it is a stage-based game, but all.
Starting point is 01:37:19 all the stages are mini-metroids where you can come back later with upgrades to get a bunch of new stuff. Okay. I don't have much to say about it other than it's like it plays super good, it feels super good, it sounds super good, it looks really good.
Starting point is 01:37:35 It's awesome. Yeah, I think just based on that layout difference, Ninja Guiden is a little more jump in and out, which works for me right now where I'm like, I'll do a stage and stop. You know, I got 20 minutes, let me complete this one channel challenge or like this one boss and call it.
Starting point is 01:37:53 But this is all like open world Metroidvania. Yeah, you know what? Somebody in the chat says it's kind of like Order of Ecclesia. If you played that Castlevania game, it's kind of like that. Okay. Order of Ecclesia is pretty good. What else? I think I did something else.
Starting point is 01:38:11 Oh, that's right. I'm doing a sub-athon for September. September? And September, yes. are you familiar with sub-tember yes in that i've heard the word and i've heard people say it and i've heard the word sub-a-thon before but i don't actually know what that entails okay so in order september is twitch offers like basically 30% off subscriptions to twitch channels okay which makes it a really good time to go hey everybody come subscribe to me you should
Starting point is 01:38:49 subscribe to my channel right now. Right. What this also means is that if I want everyone to subscribe to my channel right now, I should create a bunch of goals for them to shoot for. Which so far we've hit for, including new emotes. We have one where people are sending page Blue Sky tweets to post under my account when I'm here or on stream. out of my control or knowledge, which so far the ones she has picked are wildly confusing and look real, which is really upsetting.
Starting point is 01:39:33 Later on, we're going to be changing my username to whatever chat votes for. There's a Bioshock Infinite and Lisa the Painful LP on there at certain guidelines. There's also, at certain higher guidelines, I'm going to dye my hair and give myself mutton chops and wear clown face the fuck you are bullshit if it hits
Starting point is 01:39:58 those numbers I will do it what am I gonna not do it yes what am I gonna not do it correct unless it's like a the mutton chops
Starting point is 01:40:10 are incidental on your way to doing a clean shave anyway you know oh no so the mutton chops is not that far away it's like less than half up the list
Starting point is 01:40:18 and there's a 30-day timer on that. I have to maintain that shit. Okay. And then if the number goes high enough, after all of the horrible appearance-altering goals are done with, I will then cue ball my shit off and go pencil mustache like Vincent Price Egghead from the Batman show. Oof.
Starting point is 01:40:43 I mean, I will destroy my appearance. appearance and humiliate myself in my daily life for money. Yeah. So if you want to see that, go down to twitch. dot TV slash Pat Stairs at and kick in a
Starting point is 01:41:02 couple of subs. I love to see how the kid reacts to that one, but uh, he loves me no matter what. Okay. So, uh, it's September is when you throw stretch goals on the on the, on the Twitch channel for, uh, for the month. Are you like pretending to not know this? No.
Starting point is 01:41:18 I'm just more concerned. The Twitch. You are a Twitch streamer. I Twitch stream to record the LPs for YouTube. But you like exist in the same world that we both live in. That's correct. I hit the live button and I sit down and I record my YouTube let's place. That's correct.
Starting point is 01:41:34 Yes. Anyway, one of the goals on here is I'm going to death stream Banjo Cazui and I'm not going to be a big baby about it. That's probably the hardest goal of all. Yeah. So I'm not going to be a big baby about it I'm not going to be a big baby about it Okay I'm sorry I'm going to try
Starting point is 01:41:58 And not be a big baby about it You did enjoy A hat in time I very very much enjoyed a hat in time Because it didn't have some stupid fucking bear In it Look at me. I'm fucking stupid.
Starting point is 01:42:18 It's just the bear. That's it. It's just the bear. It's just the bear. And all the googly eyes and shit. The rare, the rare aesthetic. I can be as big of a baby as I can right now because the goal hasn't been hit. Okay.
Starting point is 01:42:34 I mean, it's fun platforming, but you know, like, yeah. Yeah, also there's a bunch of fun stuff. Like, Paige is going to make up me up like a pretty lady. I'm going to cook chat a meal and I will eat it. and I will not die, et cetera. Wow, okay. It's elaborate. My personal favorite, I'll send you the list here.
Starting point is 01:42:56 I'll send you the list of what we got here. My personal favorite and one I hope that we reach is that I will guide Page through R2 Classic while being blindfolded and my wife on the controls, which I expect will either be much easier than I think it'll be or much harder than I think it'll be. You blindfolded
Starting point is 01:43:21 telling her what to do. I will have to be mentally guiding her from memory. With audio cues, that sounds very doable. I think. How much footage have you seen
Starting point is 01:43:37 of a page using tank controls? Well, it's more about your perfect memory of RE2 that I'm oh that's rock solid there's no worries there it's less it's less about that but yeah okay interesting all right anyway if you want to see bad things happen to me or good things happen on my channel go down to twitch dot tv slash pat stares at and kick in a couple of subs that's running all the way until october first dye your hair a color of chats choosing
Starting point is 01:44:12 damn that's for 30 days or until it fades. That's crazy. Yeah, I didn't want to put that on there, but Paige was like, quit being a pussy and put hair dye on there. I'm like, I don't want to dye my hair. And she's like, do it. People will do it. I'm like, okay. Yeah, I mean, I've gone through the full rainbow
Starting point is 01:44:29 at this point, you know? Well, yeah, because you have a common hair color. You weren't blessed with a cool hair color by default. Ah. I see. That has no downsides whatsoever. Oh, that's tons of downsides.
Starting point is 01:44:45 Oh, my There's tons of them, man. Oh, my mistake then. Whoopsie. Genetic predisposition and ignoring painkiller sucks, dude. It sucks. It's the worst.
Starting point is 01:45:01 Blessed, though. Blessed we are. Yeah. Yep. Okay. It's the worst. Anyway, yeah, so that's going on. That's pretty much it for me.
Starting point is 01:45:15 Um, I think so. Oh, wait, no. My adorable, perfect son has now, he is now singing songs back to us from memory. He's saying, but, but he's in the toddler phase of 10 word sentences, but they're just off enough that mom and dad have to sit there and work it out. What is he, what is he saying? What, what is that? It's golden sun.
Starting point is 01:45:46 It's golden sun because at the end, he goes, shine on me. And I'm like, yeah. And then he realizes that we know what he's saying. And he starts to get super pumped. That's pretty sick. It's awesome, dude. That's pretty sick. It's great.
Starting point is 01:46:01 I can't wait for that. I just realized, I just had a weird flash in that. You know how you're like, like, yeah, no, my kid, though, is the best. I'm like, yeah, and I'm like, my kid's the best, right? Yeah. Like, and everyone's doing that. Drake is the person that hears you say that and gets mad at you for saying how much you like your kid and how much your kid's the best.
Starting point is 01:46:31 Because what the fuck you're saying about me and mine then, right? That same, like, just the level of, it's in the same way that people kind of hype themselves up in the game. Do you understand what I mean? would like would like i thought you were going to go to a totally different direction no no no no no no no no i thought you were going to go i say i like my kid the best and then drake goes i also like your kid that's not okay all right well and we're out leave that alone that's not where i was going but uh yeah who all right um bathroom break then
Starting point is 01:47:13 Yeah, let's do it. There we are. Also, if you go down to my channel this week over at twitch.tv. TV slash Pat Stairs at, tomorrow, that'd be Wednesday, the 3rd of September. I'm going to be doing a sponsored game of a game called Hiro Gami, which is the only game to come out and go, we are not moving our release date away from Silk Song. I see. So it's on my back.
Starting point is 01:47:40 It's on me. Okay. and then the next day I'm playing silk song until I throw up or fall asleep and then it's silk song the rest of the week and on Sunday you look confused isn't there a state of play?
Starting point is 01:47:55 I don't give a shit hey all right love to hear it I got too much going on then yeah yeah much other work to do good stuff and then on Sunday
Starting point is 01:48:07 I will be adhering to one of my sub-a-thon goals where I will be making a tier-list of every CSB podcast title to date. Oh. Oh. I look forward. Thank you to not Wully,
Starting point is 01:48:23 but chat member Wohl for putting together the existing tier list already for me to use on Sunday's stream. I look forward to the results. I skimmed it and couldn't remember 95% of those titles. Oh, yeah. No. Like I said, they had left my mind. Yeah. No, this is the legacy. I feel like truly, when I have shuffled off this mortal coil, my life's work will have been from Friendcast all the way through. Just a legacy of heinous titles.
Starting point is 01:48:57 It'll be really funny to see if I can remember where the actual title came from. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I bet the answer is I won't be able to at all for almost any of them. Also, I did not get a Marvel Tocon beta invite. neither did I so yeah you know if you've got a free one you do you I'll hey I won't suck your dick but I'll say thank you that's not a sub taut subathon goal oh I actually said if you if somebody wants to kick in like 10k subs yeah I'll fly to your house to suck your dick okay okay well you I got a family to take care of I'll suck any dick you got for money for money monetary value yeah not not for fun yeah for sure
Starting point is 01:49:41 I'm not a fool. No, sex work positive. The Tocon thing, though, is there was a video that figured out from all the different footage exactly how the combo system works. So it's no longer like this abstract mystery. It's actually, it's very unique. I haven't seen anything like it. It's closest to K.I. But overall, the system is you get.
Starting point is 01:50:11 to do 10 moves in a combo before someone drops out. Oh, my God. 10 moves? Mm-hmm. That's one more move than 2XKL has characters. Well, hey now, we got
Starting point is 01:50:29 blitzcrank here. But you can do up to 10 moves and then certain things either cost zero moves or reduce from that counter.
Starting point is 01:50:45 So every time you use an X move, it costs zero, and every time you do a tag or a system move, it subtracts. You know?
Starting point is 01:50:55 And if you do an auto combo, the last hits of the auto combo take up like five moves. That's fair. That's fair.
Starting point is 01:51:04 Yeah. That's fair. So that's how the system works. It's like, it's a, like again, really nothing like it I've seen, but you just,
Starting point is 01:51:11 there's a counter and you have to subtract or add by using the system mechanics, you know? Oh, my God. So, yeah, and it doesn't have, you know, like, people flipping out faster or any of those like proration aspects or anything like that, which actually
Starting point is 01:51:30 is pretty, that is a much simpler way to go because like in games, like, trying to figure out how combos work in like a persona game, for example, or like in Skull Girls, it's, or, you know, there's games where, like, there's a, there's an invisible number that increases every time you touch the character and then they flip out faster and faster
Starting point is 01:51:46 at different rates that are just like this crazy blackboard equation of what a combo is and isn't, you know? So we'll see how it works in this context. But yeah, we'll see how that beta goes. Yeah, I have a start time for Silk Song on Thursday.
Starting point is 01:52:03 It's noon and I don't have an end time. I'm gonna Silk Song all over there. that shit. Skong it up. Skong it out. All right. Let's take some sponsor words. I love sponsor words. Did you know there's some of my favorite words?
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Starting point is 01:54:48 Yeah it's become it's become exactly really archaic and weird I have a I got one of those ones that's like It's pretty cool actually It's a printer with no ink It just uses a special paper You buy the paper and then the ink is forever And it hooks up to a thing on my phone So I can just be like yeah just print a document from an email go you know
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Starting point is 02:02:34 Dot Dev. Thanks, boot. Uh, right. What's going on? Nothing. Okay, so there's a fun article that popped up this morning. Yeah. About Final Fantasy Tactics. Let's hear it.
Starting point is 02:02:55 I like that game. A lot. At a panel at Pax West, 2025 director, Kazatoyo Maero explained that the reason why Squared Enix no longer had the original source code for Final Fantasy tactics boiled down to how the original source
Starting point is 02:03:12 code was overwritten when the game was brought to audiences outside Japan. We'd basically take the data from the Japanese version and overwrite the English data on it and we wanted to do another language. We would keep just stacking on top and overwriting and overriding and overriding. Maito began.
Starting point is 02:03:28 So we kind of went on a journey to find the original version and we were using whatever resources we had available to us and all those different versions would be analyzing what was there to try and find what we felt was the original. On top of that, we actually had to go to different websites made by fans to look up the data there because we know you guys could do such a good job of keeping that all up to date. the final fantasy tactics fucking remaster needed to use ROMs and emulation preserving the original game because Square themselves did not have the source code anymore. Why did they save over it?
Starting point is 02:04:15 That's such a strange way to do that. Because Japan at that time, especially, had such a little. they thought so little of preserving code for the future and they never thought anyone would want or give a fuck about it going forward so they just would use it over and over for new games or for the same game every time and had no thoughts towards preserving what they were working on
Starting point is 02:04:39 it just wasn't importantly way crazier than we destroyed it so Sega couldn't get a hold of it or whatever yeah Nintendo would do no they just gave they gave no shits about it it was a low priority thing And the thought that you would ever need it to get in the future was just like, meh. That actually explains a lot about the various issues Final Fantasy Tactics releases have had over the years and why new problems kept showing up. And it's because they just kept stapling new shit onto the old shit that was already stapled on.
Starting point is 02:05:14 Yeah, I mean, you know, why buy a new, why buy new storage when you have the existing storage and the game is already shipped? So who cares? onto the next right um fan preservation robs and emulators actually are massively important i bet there's a dinosaur that's actually really angry about these quotes oh the stegosaurus is losing its mind right now it's thrashing its tail around to the office as we speak but regardless the official product had to turn towards fans preserving the original copy of the game in order to help the remake of it currently coming out. I gotta tell you, Yoshi-P. and his boys and girls
Starting point is 02:06:02 are like super on the level. Everybody over Creative Business Unit 3, every interview they give is just like a normal person talking to you instead of like a Japanese businessman. It's really refreshing. I just like, like the wild part is this is the type of antics I expect to hear
Starting point is 02:06:27 from the Super Nintendo era. You know? Not the PlayStation era. By the time you hit fucking discs on PlayStation guys, what are we doing? That's crazy, man. Whatever we feel like, bruh. You're hitting late 90s.
Starting point is 02:06:44 to 2000s and you're still just like fuck whatever we just made we're already on to the next who cares no one will ever give a fuck about this and i mean like when you think about how many games were being put out by like all the big companies at the time like yeah square and capcom and sega all these japanese companies were making a bajillion games per year uh at that time right it was a boom but square was putting out a crazy amount of shit a year yeah um but just the thought you know that, like, we do not give the slightest shit about ever preserving this in the future. What about, like, even printing second-run copies? That, like, it's crazy. It makes, it's so nuts. It makes no sense, you know? And so, yeah, you just get this thing now where you're like, so de facto, de facto, you must rely on fans preserving the games and fans preserving shit. There's no way around this.
Starting point is 02:07:44 And furthermore, like, you know, remakes and remasters and all these things might not actually happen in the future if fans don't step in and do this, you know, or worse, they will do it, but they'll rely on, you know, either AI or something or they'll just, or they'll not, you know, maybe the, like, whatever the case of the budgetary constraints would be for something, like the ability, the fact that it'd be like, no, start from scratch, do it all over again. or you end up with mobile chrono trigger or something like that, you know? Yeah. Dude, the PC and mobile versions of a chrono trigger took, like, years to get up to stuff. Like, it was just ridiculous. And the fact that the company can't tell that there's a difference in what's being output between those shitty... Well, yeah, because no one who worked on it before is on the project now. So, yeah, if there's any question about, you know, fucking archiving and preservation for games in the future.
Starting point is 02:08:42 Like, this is, this is a definitive... one here. So I'm pretty sure we didn't cover it, but did we talk about something called mayor last week? No. Okay. So this relates to Yoshipi and his team and them sounding like normal human beings. There has been an FF14 drama that has occurred that has expanded and expanded and expanded to the point where Yoshi P had to come out and make a massive blog post about it. I think it's
Starting point is 02:09:17 like the longest blog post he's ever done while working on the game. So the long and short of it is that despite it is against the rules to modify Final Fantasy 14, this is explicitly against the TOS. You are not to modify
Starting point is 02:09:33 FF14. It is against the rules, bad. Don't do it. I would never do it and none of your friends would ever do it either. However people do it It is a thing that people do Yes People will do things Such as put a pixel
Starting point is 02:09:47 Underneath their character To simulate their hitbox Or add chat bubbles So when people talk out in the open world They do chat bubbles Or they'll put Cooldown timers with numbers Instead of just the visual
Starting point is 02:10:01 Right And usually these are things That everybody just shuts the fuck up about and ignores and the devs look at it maybe and then they don't see nobody saying
Starting point is 02:10:15 fucking nothing and so they go okay everybody's shutting a fuck up and they go hey maybe we should put chat bubbles into the game
Starting point is 02:10:21 and these are a couple patches go by local on your machine modifications yeah local on your machine very important yeah
Starting point is 02:10:29 and they go hey you know what that's actually a decent idea let's implement chat bubbles later and when they ask hey where'd you get
Starting point is 02:10:35 the idea they go player feedback and they look at you like this right yeah okay right yeah and this this has been kind of the the way it goes nature of the way modifying works is like hey shut your fucking mouth like like there's something called parsing and what parsing is is something you're not supposed to do and is against the rule so don't do it but what parsing is is it is a meter that allows you to see who in your party is doing how much
Starting point is 02:11:08 damage to the ball. Oh, I remember this conversation. And then you can grief people because you can tell that they're not doing the rotation efficiently. The rule of the land is like, hey, if you're using this for personal use and nobody knows about it, how would you ever get caught? Like, that's the actual official stance. But if you're going into group content and shitting on people for information, you're not actually supposed to have fuck off and die. Well, here comes mayor. And mayor is, a super mod and what mayor allows you to do it says hey woolly you breaking the rules have decided to modify your bunny girl to have way bigger tits
Starting point is 02:11:52 than normal way bigger tizongas beefy viera's let's go now luckily you have mare installed and I have mayor installed so my mod will contact your mod and go hey woolly's got the big bazongas mod on you should
Starting point is 02:12:08 download mayor so that you can see woolly's big gazongas yes okay right right right yes right this will work with hats or cosmetics or gigantic bald's fucking dick dick shit oh the no the player i know in particular that is in there has as uh their viera with tons of pubic hair uh actually yeah you don't know that that's not real okay you would never know a person who would do that because that would be a rule breaker And you don't want them to get banned. But what has happened is this functionality has become part of that group of people on FF14 and have started to post about it and put it in their player bio and mandate it for groups and put billboards on real life soil about their cyber orgies. Okay.
Starting point is 02:13:12 And the creator of the mod accidentally left some of their personally identifying information in one of their updates, at which point Square Inix, said, hey, turn that shit off, take it down. Okay. At which point, they said, oops, I got caught, I'm taking it down, which resulted in review bombing, people crying about it, etc. And Yoshi P comes out and goes, listen, and made this exhaustive detailed breakdown that is, in paraphrase, everything is fine if everyone shuts the fuck up because I have to pretend I don't know what I'm talking about to my boss. Right. But also, my boss, the Stegosaurus. Yes. But also, with all this Visa MasterCard shit going on in PayPal and Striying.
Starting point is 02:14:07 When you guys are using modded versions of the game and hashtags for the game and posting your fucking big titty fucking orgy FF14 content all over social media, it could impact our ability to run the fucking game. Oh, my God. So can we all just shut the fuck up? Just be chill. Be cool, man. Okay, okay. It's the anti-Yoko Taro, or Yoko Taros, like, I need you to send it to me, send me all of it. Yoshi's like, I do not see it.
Starting point is 02:14:42 Don't tell me. Thousands and thousands of words to just say, if we could all be cool and shut up about it, it would be fine. He will only look you in the eyes. He will not look down at all. He doesn't see it. And I bring this up to you because everyone obviously goes to. your video of like, hey, how about we all just shut the fuck up?
Starting point is 02:15:03 Yes. Even the developer of the game is like, can you all just shut the fuck up about it? The answer is always no, because it only takes a few that don't understand. Because it's the problem. The problem is that the shut the fuck up idea,
Starting point is 02:15:18 especially in a community context, requires like a social understanding. And there's always going to be those that just don't understand why what they're doing. It's fucking it up for everybody. We got rants about how it's my game and I can do what I want. And it's like, okay, one, it's not.
Starting point is 02:15:37 It's actually an active game that is shared with other people, but also you're actually logging in via permission of the, like, reading the room. Never before has there been a game that is less, oh, it's mine. I can do whatever I want with it. But also, they're saying you can do whatever you want with it on your local machine. Just don't fuck it up for everybody. Yeah. Yeah. Reading the room is a very hard thing for some folks, man. God damn it. That's a bummer. Okay. Now, the thing is, too, is like, I am, even the part where you're talking about invisibly knowing somebody is not doing their rotation efficiently, you know that when the time comes to, like, make decisions about that player and to whether to play with them or not or whatever, that's going to affect it, right?
Starting point is 02:16:26 Okay, so I'm going to surface a fictional scenario to you born from my imagination. Yes. Assume you're running an eight-man and you're like, man, the damage just isn't there. So you pull out your robot and it will tell you where the damage is not coming from. And you correctly discover, oh, the summoner, let's just say, wow, they're really not pulling their weight. You could then turn the shit off, run a encounter, and physically use your eyes to see that they're not doing everything they could do. Because every action in that game is visible to other players. And you would be able to tell, I can literally see you not popping up.
Starting point is 02:17:26 your cool downs with your eyes. I'm very observant. Okay. You can also tell by the agro list. Okay. You can be like, why is the DPS doing less damage and the more of the healers? Well, so, but this is the question is then,
Starting point is 02:17:43 is everyone going to kind of silently then just be like, okay, thank you very much. We'll play with someone else next time. No, no, you're going to have drama. Okay. But that's just the nature of, that's just the nature of the beast. okay um i mean surely if you're not getting healed fast enough then you're like hey you should be
Starting point is 02:18:03 healing faster you can feel those things or whatever that's the one that's the one that is really obvious where it's like hey here comes the big a oe and we all died despite being at full health uh did no one put shields out it really looks like there was no healing shields that went out can we look can we do that again hey there's no show oh we'll just die because there's no shields here can you can you put some shields out Can you please put a shield out? But there is a fine line to tightrope walk, of course, which is to not grief people over data that you're not supposed to see.
Starting point is 02:18:37 Yeah, so what happens is the ideal use is for your own personal improvement. That's the ideal use of that kind of system. Okay. The realistic use is going, I ran a dungeon with this dumbass fucking mouth breather. Here's their name. I'm going to go to Tales of Duty Finder Reddit and just shit all over them. oh my god how do they even let people like this play the fucking game it's fucking embarrassing oh my god
Starting point is 02:19:00 they don't even know the rotation and it's that's the actual use case they're trying to avoid which is constant okay okay uh yeah that's tales from duty finder is not supposed to be about complaining about the tank not doing enough damage or the healer not healing tales from duty finder is supposed to be about the time i ran zelphitol and And the dragoon kept dying to the wind mechanic on the second boss. And I was like, bro, you need to stand in front of the barrier. And he said, you are easily the gayest tank I have ever seen. And I went, what?
Starting point is 02:19:39 And then he didn't move for the entire rest of the dungeon. And then we finished it without him and then kicked him before the boss so he couldn't get credit. That's what Tales from Duty Finder is supposed to be about. What the fuck is happening? Okay. Okay. All right. Is it possible that some people's inefficient rotation is because the giant titties on their character
Starting point is 02:20:03 are blocking the icons for their spellcasting. Is it possible that the visible attack cones are being blocked by the giant tities? Here's the thing for real, okay? And magnum d'ongs. I don't believe in big titty goon modding your character because it's against the rules, but also it's not my thing. um i see people post like screenshots of their like freak beasts i would i would say like
Starting point is 02:20:30 it's always like it's always like way yeah you can't no you can't stop right anywhere saying no and i'm just and my thought just like you you play the game like this dude like you like you you like you fought in singer with this shit on like are you serious yeah i mean You don't pay my sub. Yeah, yeah, totally. That's, that's... That's so fucking weird to me. It's essential.
Starting point is 02:21:02 It's important, you know? Yeah, somebody in the chat points out, it's like running your regular master rank matches as your like Street Fighter 6 create a character. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Now, are all the cutscenes in story mode taking place in-engine? Absolutely.
Starting point is 02:21:17 Oh. Oh, well, then now we've got... Absolutely. Well, now we've got extra incentive. all right yeah that's what's going on over yoshi p's house that sucks that sucks that's what has to ask people to please be normal just be chill yeah and they won't but you know there you go also this is of note somebody pointed out it's a very clean distinction they also went out to say that mayor would have been banned as soon as they could have gotten a hold of it no matter what because mayor does
Starting point is 02:21:48 something that is against the rules even more than everything else which is allows you to change other people's players and then photograph them and weird on them. Like, there's like, there's like band, which is don't fuck with your characters and make them freaks. And then there's a, hey, don't fuck with other people's characters and make them freaks and bring them into your nonsense. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right. That's extra against the rules. This wasn't the same thing that could also, like, track your name change. changes across servers and shit yeah okay that was a different thing yeah okay um that's uh that sucks
Starting point is 02:22:32 but i'm also just thinking too about like the yeah the fact that the mastercard and visa element that brings a whole other side to this that wasn't there right now they're like can you really stop this right now please really shitty timing absolutely um and i know with like wow and stuff like like every MML there's always going to be bonds it's always going to be the case it's never going to not be a thing but like whether you embrace it or not
Starting point is 02:22:58 you're it's a lot cleaner for your company if you just leave it over there and just be like we won't fuck with it but mer right yeah okay um so anyway yeah that's that's
Starting point is 02:23:11 that's how tactics got remade um again I guess Blitzcrank trailer Hell yeah, he looks great I saw at least three command grabs one of which was a running bear grab
Starting point is 02:23:27 and a get over here claw which even if you're blocking pulls you into him full screen get over here that is very very true to Blitzcrank's kit okay I saw I saw the get over here
Starting point is 02:23:43 and on a blocked character I saw it lead into a grab I saw it lead into a launcher I saw the wrecking ball thing, which is pretty cool. A good old attack that stays on screen for a long time that goes back and forth like that is great for like, yeah, covering an assist or whatever. Blitz looks really good.
Starting point is 02:24:03 This is not just a character that looks really cool. He's also a really good translation from League. He is the only character on the roster from a league's original 40. He's the oldest of all the characters on the roster. British robot I went back and I heard the original voice Which was just robot And then they made this one British
Starting point is 02:24:29 Yeah that's fine He looks great He's a proper big body grappler He's great Some some decent trash talking lines in there Yeah Asking if this is how you talk trash And
Starting point is 02:24:47 Now get a number another freak in there, and we got a stew going. Well, I was going to say, that's the grappler you were looking for, right? That's... Well, no, I was looking for Nautilus, but I knew I wasn't going to get it. I knew I wasn't going to get Nautilus because he's too cool. Too interesting. And the fact that I saw, like, three command grabs, mind you, and then...
Starting point is 02:25:07 And I think an Ariel one and two as well is like, okay, so there is a panic, you know, do I hold a button, do I hold up, do I, what do I do type thing? And it seems like he's going to probably be, just based on what I'm seeing there, like a, I didn't see any armor, but it seems like... He does get armor. If he charges up his electricity, he gets armor. Then that's an amazing secondary for just about everybody on that cast. Someone that can pull them in, someone that can, you know, do the threat of the, what you might call it, a wrecking ball, or just a command. and switch.
Starting point is 02:25:48 Pretty sick. Yeah, cool. Now let's announce Timo and we can have a good game. And call it a day. We can have a... If you put Timo on that 10th slot, you have a good game right there. If you don't, bad game. Just that simple.
Starting point is 02:26:04 His assist restands. Interesting. Yeah, okay. You got a freak bot. I also saw... So there was Blitzcrank. it's been a minute but there's a new punch planet character that came out as well really uh reno got announced and basically it looks like a black ops character is the best i can
Starting point is 02:26:30 kind of describe it um here you go like buff girl with a tactical outfit on and a skull death face paint doing CQC. Oh man, that's a Cod Blops right there, man. Yep, yep. I'm seeing a siege character doing CQC and she's got counters and rolls and arm and leg breaks and
Starting point is 02:26:56 I'm going to say like... It's a fighting game character from Coblox the siege. Krav Maga or something to that effect, you know? Um, yeah. So they, they're, I thought that they were satisfied having like kind of musly girl and then huge snoo-snew lady but Punch Planet's like no we got an in-between too as well
Starting point is 02:27:15 if you want half snoo you know a little more don't look at don't care for that half snoo a little more thick you got that option as well so um cool stuff no I'm just like you know shout out's Punch Planet that's a you know that's a small team and will over there is like still working on it after all this time cool fighting game dope to see that there's new content coming out um at there was Also a trailer that dropped while we're just talking about the fighting game stuff for a rogue-like single-player fighting game called Polly Fighter. And it uses a two-mello track. So right off the bat, good shit.
Starting point is 02:28:00 I recognize that track as the Jet Set Sona music. No, not Pollyamorous Fighter. Just Polly Fighter. as in Polygon. Why do all the characters look like that? Because they're polygonal. And it's basically the deal of what this game seems to be like, slay the spire,
Starting point is 02:28:22 down to the, pick your character, pick your pathways and go. But instead of the card game battle, you have a fighting game round or a fight that you play. And then when you beat the enemy, you get to take one of their moves and apply it to your kit and then improve your kit over time.
Starting point is 02:28:40 Is it a tag fighter? No, no, no, it's... Weird, you'd figure. Because of the... Yeah, yeah, right, right. Like, like, Tocon is the 4v4. You'd think Polly Fighter would be the 4v... All right.
Starting point is 02:29:00 I can't. It's fine. That's okay. It's just so funny to hear. No, it's fine. It's okay. The final boss is the cuell. and whoosh that's fine no no no no no i'm trying to i'm trying to like i'm trying to yes and it but i'm not
Starting point is 02:29:19 yes we fuck a lot of people fighter go run the bit run the joke Listen, I like Slay the Spire, so I think that's a cool idea to just be like, hey, you can kind of go for this sort of randomized progression and stuff. Seems like a fun idea. We'll see where it goes. But yeah, the, I think stuff like World Tour could have been a bit more fun if it had more replayability in a shorter burst, kind of like this sort of concept, really. so fun stuff and yay too mellow on the track there so go check it out um all right what else is going on uh there was an announcement after an interview with mike booth that he's going to work on a new four-player co-op shooter a la left for dead yeah um and so i have to i know i have to
Starting point is 02:30:27 double check each time, right? But back for blood is, was made after he left. Right? The creator of Left for Dead? Didn't, I've fallen for this before. Okay. Was he not? Turtle Rock.
Starting point is 02:30:49 On back for blood? Turtle Rock made back for blood. But he was gone at the time? Is that it? Yeah, he was gone at the time. So he's doing this... He did not work on back for blood? No.
Starting point is 02:31:02 Okay. Maybe I'm ready to fall for it again. Okay. Do you work on evolve? Oh. Mike Booth, evolve. Let's see. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:31:17 I look to you for... Did not. He did not work on evolve. Maybe I'm ready to not fall for it. again. I don't know. Seems like the timeline was left for dead
Starting point is 02:31:34 and then some creative work on Counterstrike and Team Fortress 2 beyond that. But yeah seems to be, it seems like he left before all the other stuff happens. Maybe I'm willing to fall for it again. There's only so many times
Starting point is 02:31:53 you can you can like call out, be like, I'm the successor of this. Well, if it's, I guess it's like, it, is it the director that's gonna, that gets to do that?
Starting point is 02:32:04 Or is it the other, the rest of the team? From the people who brought you this thing. They worked in the mail room. And some of them had a producer credit. The movie trailer bit from the guys that brought you this. What were you? You were producers.
Starting point is 02:32:19 Oh, okay. Cool. Were you a producer? No, I just got a producer credit. I submitted a, That's what Addie Shankar does. I submitted a treatment on the script, and I got a producer credit, executive. Did the treatment go anywhere?
Starting point is 02:32:34 It chipped. It got greenlit. I edited it so that Virgil would look like even more of a hero. So when I had a production credit on it, I added a scene that, uh, I thought was really important. And then they shot that scene, and then the scene got cut in the edit because it was shit. So I'm a producer.
Starting point is 02:33:04 I'm a producer on the project. Sidebar, Devil May Cry Season 2 trailer from that dropped you a moment ago or a week of a week of a go. The... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that noise, the noise you just made. That's the noise. Yeah I
Starting point is 02:33:28 Virgil's going to fly that plane directly into the Twin Towers So what I just Did you catch the part Where when he walked in And you're seeing older looking Dante from DMC1 So he's got the shirt on And he's got the jacket in everything
Starting point is 02:33:43 You're like oh look it's the older Dante He looks cool or whatever Did you catch the part where when Virgil walks on the screen There's electricity coming off of his boots And off of him Because he is the literal storm that is approaching. I get it.
Starting point is 02:33:57 I get it. I get it. I get it, bro. I got it. I've seen it. I'm just checking in case you missed it. You might have missed it. It's a very subtle detail that you might have missed.
Starting point is 02:34:12 Lightning struck. And then Virgil started walking towards the camera. All right. And what else is going on? Well, hey. Um, over at Blizzard, um, there's an article that popped out where they spoke to some of the teams on, on Warcraft that were saying, hey, you know, it is possible to use AI tools while still feeling handcrafted. Um, it's about incredibly, the word feel is carrying a lot of weight in the sense. Load bearing word. Yeah, it's about incredibly talented people not doing incredibly boring stuff. Um, and then the article goes on to describe the ways in which, uh, AI integration. with their daily teams and yada yada can go and so on and so forth.
Starting point is 02:34:59 But, you know, this is all just the shot because the chaser, of course, is the article that follows this. Diablo devs unionize following layoffs and dissatisfaction with AI and pay. Hey, cool, Blizzard. You're telling me that parts of your game just don't matter and are shit and are actually really boring for you to make. And we need to automate those. Yeah. I'm supposed to be excited by them. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 02:35:24 You're like, ugh, have to make the whole thing. Can't we just get something to generate this boring shit that nobody cares about so that the players will get it? And then we can just save some money and have all the, all the creatives working on the more fun, exciting stuff. God, I am so bored listening to these voice actors do their lines and writing the lines themselves. Can we, can I just have a robot do all the dialogue? It's so boring. I just want to do. Coming up with these icons for these attacks, you know, is just, it's incredibly boring.
Starting point is 02:35:58 Dull. Yeah, so, you know, the, the Diablo team joins the other unionized teams over there that were part of CWA. So, yeah, good on them. That's cool. But just alongside of the complaints and stuff that was basically led on by the fact that a bunch of people got laid off as usual and so on, comes the other part of it where they're like, also this AI shit that they keep talking about is creeping up. more and more into our daily work, and that shit sucks. So...
Starting point is 02:36:25 Did you see that co-pilot has come to Excel? No. Did you see that co-pilot has come to Excel with a caveat M-Tor? What was that? Microsoft says, hey, guys, Excel has co-pilot now. You can use AI stuff for Excel. However, please do not use it on anything in Excel. You need to be accurate or reproducible.
Starting point is 02:36:52 Oh my God You know in Excel Yeah Yeah, no Like tracking data You know It should The data should change
Starting point is 02:37:05 Every time you open up the file Really Just based on how it's feeling When I load up Excel I think Oh man, it'd be super fun If all these numbers changed When I wasn't looking at them
Starting point is 02:37:14 That would be really sick actually I would appreciate If it just kind of generated A different number When I scrolled down And back up just make it different. The whole thing is just an exercise of
Starting point is 02:37:25 like people who don't actually care about results. They care about like, yeah, this feels right. Yeah, but it feels right. But the aggression with co-pilot and Microsoft also feels like they've hit that sunk cost fallacy threshold. Oh yeah. Well, they spent a billion
Starting point is 02:37:41 shit zillion dollars on it. It's got to make money now. Between the investors and the desperation and the firings and the forced usage, it's like we must, it must, it must succeed. It must happen. There is no turning back now.
Starting point is 02:37:55 We've committed all in, and we're in a death spiral at this point. Oh, yeah. Also, one of the things is Microsoft Word is going to start uploading your documents to the cloud automatically. Oh, yeah, for sure, no doubt. And law offices are now going, like,
Starting point is 02:38:09 well, no one can use Microsoft Word anymore because our fucking contracts and in progress legal documents and discovery and briefs are just going to fucking get auto-uploaded to a company. that we don't have control over, so fucking use something else. Well, fortunately, Open Office won their lawsuit against Microsoft a billion years ago,
Starting point is 02:38:30 where Microsoft stole their shit. So you can go use Open Office if you didn't feel like using the Google version. Yeah, I do use Open Office. Because you got the Google version, you know, online that's with your profile. But if you don't want to use the Google tools, you got the Open Office tools. So those are there too. Now, Microsoft has been in the business of like annoying the shit out of their users for years now. So it doesn't stand.
Starting point is 02:38:52 It's not that surprising that there'd be first to go furthest down this path. You know, interesting stuff. Anyway, let's take a couple letters. Was there any news that I wanted to go over before we hit letters? There's one piece of news. Which one? Paul Tassie over at somewhere, some newspaper. Hold on, let me check.
Starting point is 02:39:19 Forbes? Forbes has a Destiny 2 update today 80% 80% 80% Yeah
Starting point is 02:39:37 Yeah So long and short of it is the destiny has this thing called the portal Which is a way for you to go to certain activities And certain activities are doable through the portal And now these are the only activities that will provide a gear increase in power. The only ones. Which means the 80% of the game is now to do it once and then go to the portal.
Starting point is 02:40:04 Oh my God. So by the way, this is the 80% of the game that remains in Destiny 2 is now sunset. If you were to include the parts of the game that were actively deleted, it's probably closer to 90s. 90 or 95%. So what are you playing when you boot the game? I don't know! I don't know anymore. I haven't kept on for long enough, but it's crazy.
Starting point is 02:40:35 They clearly want people to only do the newest stuff that they just put out. But there's not enough of that. There's never enough of that. Oh, wow. I'm like, I don't get the business plan. So you paid $4 billion for that company. Also, hey, Wully, you would know about this. If you were to playtest marathon, one hour a day, every day, and do a survey for it at the end of your 30 days, would that be worth $500?
Starting point is 02:41:16 And you may think this seems like an incredibly specific question, and it is. 500 bucks for 30 hours of work. 30 hours of work. Yeah. Yeah. Let's, let's, you know, carry. Plus survey. So it's about 16 and a half, 16.50 an hour.
Starting point is 02:41:39 Yeah. Um, hmm. Let me, let me see here. Let me pull my calculator out. U.S.D. Yeah, U.S.D. This is about 20, 21 an hour. Um.
Starting point is 02:42:04 In QA context, I take that, sure. Yeah, but it's not QA. It's playtesting. It was sent out into the ether going, hey guys, we're opening up playtesting to people. and we're going to give you a $500 gift card at the end. Gift card. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:42:22 Unspecified gift card. That's an important distinction. That's an important distinction. And I just want to bring it up because, like, I remember when I streamed Marathon, I had the most behind the curtain, throw the curtains open moment I've ever had on stream where I was like, wow, there's a lot of people in here on this stream. I think I had like 2,100 people or something. And I was like, I should really keep streaming marathon because this is really good for my channel. I don't want to. And then I just ended the show. And it just led to
Starting point is 02:43:02 this thing of like, wow, you can't even pay people to stream marathon. And I guess you have to. The cool part about gift cards is how when you don't use them after a long enough period of time, there's a fee that starts eating away at their total. Isn't that crazy? That's awesome. That's the coolest part. Love that. Wow. Okay. Damn.
Starting point is 02:43:26 It was a Discord leak? I didn't know that. Well, you let's go into some emails while I find out more about that. You can send it an email to Castle Superbeast at gmail.com. That's Castle Superbeast mail. That's right, the Castle Superbeast mail at gmail.com.
Starting point is 02:43:42 Yeah. And there was, there was that there was the update to the story from last week about Evo shifting hands. So RTS was being invested in more by Kadiah and the Sony was giving it off to
Starting point is 02:43:58 the other company. So basically they didn't say how much at the time that investment was and so it looks like RTS is completely being bought by Kedia. So Pokey Main is handing
Starting point is 02:44:12 handing off RTS to Saudi, it seems. So, um, yeah. How could Pokeyane do this? How could, how could, you know, Pokemon was supposed to be the chosen one to save us, not, not destroy us. Um, so, yep, the, the, the ever encroaching influence continues. Uh, everything is horrible. It all sucks. Um, it's crazy how you, you chose the birth of your child.
Starting point is 02:44:42 over the last evo to matter. You made the right decision, buddy. I'm seeing people describing how many different ways their tag can include variants of Khashoggi. So, yeah, we'll see. If you got an email, you can send it to Castle Superbeastmail at gmail.com. Castle superbeastmail at gmail.com. um here's one can you either of you dudes do a flip a kick flip will be accepted absolutely not
Starting point is 02:45:22 nope the last time i tried to do a flip i was 13 i almost died um there were i had a friend who could do a flip off of the bottom of the staircase at church and i was going to try but then i got a really impending sense of you're going to break your neck if you do this so that i didn't do it um i did one on a soft mat and I didn't complete it so no-uh cannot do that and with skating I never got to the ability to do a kickflip the most I was ever able to do was a really shitty Olly
Starting point is 02:45:54 and first time I used a skateboard I was 17 I went to a friend's house he had skateboard I sat on the skateboard the skateboard flew out from under me and I fell and hurt my back and my back hurt for that summer you actually got on a skateboard yeah no for about one second okay and then I immediately hurt myself I did not get a second foot onto the skateboard before we're going to see it. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 02:46:17 Yeah, you know, me and a couple friends, you know, post-tony Hawk were, we're feeling like, like, getting out there, so we did for a bit. Actually, you know what? Hold up a second. Hold up. I can do a flip.
Starting point is 02:46:33 And how so? Okay, I'm going to do a flip, but you can't look. Mm-hmm. Okay, I did the flip. I did it. We heard it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:46:48 Okay. Nice. It was pretty tough. Um. Let me see here. Um. And there you go. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:47:09 Oh, man. No, this is, no, this is. So I already I already used that bit I already used that bit like two years ago I did like the first entire hour of my show upside down
Starting point is 02:47:24 because I had used the New Zealand PSN trick to unlock RE4 remake and so I was like well I'm in New Zealand yeah all right so then yeah you know what emailer yes we can do a flip we just did that's crazy that's that's amazing
Starting point is 02:47:41 All right, let's see over here Seth asks Dear Dad and Pop Oh, you know what's fun The discussion now that's being had For what the grandparents want to be called Oh dude, that that discussion Like
Starting point is 02:48:03 Like I Like you know what sucks It's like it's hard to give the kid non-standard grandpa and grandma names like grandma and grandpa like you build up to that and that's universally applicable but everybody wants the unique thing
Starting point is 02:48:19 and then you have to teach the child the unique thing and it's like a not a real word okay so for me because there's a French side there's French names that apply you know there's Memaire and Pepper and you know shit like that so well I just had Gremama
Starting point is 02:48:35 right who wants to be grandmamot exactly so there's that discussion and like, you know, some people want to need that. Some people have the title, but you don't want to take it away from other people. And, you know, the priority of the step parents versus the biological. And so there's a whole discussion there. And, you know, I'm kind of thinking, and then on my, you know, on my end to as well, it's just kind of like, okay, so is it like my mom called her grandma granny, but I don't think she wants to be granny.
Starting point is 02:49:07 because grandma is kind of normal. Granny sounds like super old. Granny's like 95. Yeah, Granny's extreme. Like an antagonistic flare. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. And then like, there's there, then there's places that go with like me ma and I'm like, I don't know, I don't know where that is.
Starting point is 02:49:31 Oh, you mean like page? Yeah, me ma'am and peepa and whatever that stuff. That's just weird. Anyway. But weirdly, we had a, our grandma was mama. Right. So that's not wildly confusing in the early days. No, but everyone, everyone called her mama. So it just contextually became known. There's no mama. There's only mama. And mama is everyone's everyone's mama. And that's it. You know, so anyway. um we're figuring all that out but dear dad and pop uh most people agree that some spoilers have a statute of limitations when it's acceptable um to assume their common knowledge darth vater the empire strikes back eryth at ff seven are good examples but what are some that that reset recently what are some that you believe have no
Starting point is 02:50:31 limitation on unspoiled forever um murder mystery anything with a murder mystery Two examples for me are the culprit in P4 and Dear Zachary, for example. Willie, good luck in your successes, and I hope it gets easier. I promise it gets easier. Thank you very much. Yeah. I think the mystery genre kind of locks this in. 13 Sentinels is just the whole point of playing the experience is what you learn.
Starting point is 02:51:00 So talking about that, not only is it very difficult to spoil because of the nature of the mystery keeps changing but it defies the whole purpose of the adventure right so uh yeah i would i would say anytime there's a mystery or especially a murder mystery where your your whole journey is all about that ride um you you should probably keep that under locks the whole time you know i will give a a big shout out to warframe players uh the second dream um is really has really good etiquette everybody's really cool about the second dream. That's it. It's like people could be not cool about it,
Starting point is 02:51:45 but they are. They're really cool about it. I think you can tell, right? In a lot of cases you can kind of just tell by the nature of what the deal is. Like there's some parts too of a game where like so Expedition 33, it feels like you can talk about later parts of that game but there are early parts that you'll just should never discuss I would say Expedition 33
Starting point is 02:52:14 people are generally also really cool about it there's a really consistent explanation that everybody I've ever seen have to bring it up as brought up across all playthroughs which is very very good But I think that that's a great example of this question, because Expedition 33 has, like, stuff that is openly discussed, that happens later after stuff that is not openly discussable. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:52:45 You know? So it's all context of how important it is to the work and how it feels. Okay. And Capflat says, Dare Harley Quinn variant cover one and Harley Quinn variant cover two. Is that the one with the farts? Will farts ever break free? Can a fart ever be used in fiction as an innocuous action
Starting point is 02:53:11 or even a dramatic one? Must it always be either comedic or at best a fetish at worst? Can an attractive character ever fart without it being a fetish thing? Does the nature of an attractive person doing it forever lock it
Starting point is 02:53:28 into sus territory? Will farts ever break free of their undignified confines. No, because they're either hilarious or undignified. First of all, the fact that you're asking the question already makes you suss and puts us onto your game, cap flat. Make no mistake. This is not just food for thought.
Starting point is 02:53:47 It is also food for your nose as well. We're aware. We know what you're up to. The Harley Quinn variant thing, like we both, we both, like, got you instantly. I can't even see the fucking email and I knew exactly what. it was going to be about. This fucking snoofer is trying to get his shit away. Listen, I know Capflat. I see them in my fucking stream. So now we know they're a snoofer. Because the thing is, is you have to question, right? Whatever, like, it's Chekhov's gun, right? So Chekhov's fart, if you would. Like, what reason is there to depict a fart in fiction, if not to convey either a comedic moment or what you're looking for, the Harley Quinn variant cover, right? These are the reason why you depict it, is for one of those two purposes. Like, I can think of, um,
Starting point is 02:54:36 I can think of scenes in movies where a character is like, I don't know, just like outside pissing in the, in the bushes or something, talking to somebody else as like a casual moment of whatever. That there's nothing too much behind that or so. But if you had somebody drop trow and just start blasting down on the trail, you'd be going, whoa, whoa, whoa, what the fuck are we doing? Right?
Starting point is 02:54:59 Yeah. So, like, my life is like a fiction, let's assume my life is a fictional story, right? Let's just paint my life like a story. So like, if I were to tell you that like earlier in the week, I ate some food or whatever and like I farted so bad that my
Starting point is 02:55:13 wife got really mad at me because she started barfing, like, is that like, is that not being played for laughs? Like, is that not being played for laughs? And then when I was like, fine, fine. And then I went to the front door and opened the door and started farting out in the front
Starting point is 02:55:29 yard. And she was like, oh my God. stop it the neighbors can hear and I'm like well you said not to do it in the house what am I supposed to do you like I'm either telling that for humor or you're supposed to hear that about me as like an impund like an attack on my character um um cap flat at what moment in the english patient is a dramatic fart supposed to be ripped uh and not played for laughs or for fetish right to what to what ends would the writer indulge in this way you you tell me because i believe that fiction can be you can do anything right so you create the reason then find a way like what purpose like when i'm when i'm scrolling on ticot right when i'm scrolling on ticot and i run into like the
Starting point is 02:56:19 the darkest dank corner of ticot which is farting on my roommate's door or farting in my grandpa's sleep apnea machine or farting on my grandma's oxygen tank like what am I am what what am I supposed to do other than laugh or jerk off if you're like what like what like what like what am I action in a horror
Starting point is 02:56:40 movie if a character is afraid and they're they're kind of tiptoeing and then something scares them and they go like you're telling me that that little fear to that little fear to it's not a laugh what do you want here
Starting point is 02:56:59 I forgot about the second part of farting on my roommate's door I did see it I did I did see it shit what's the second part oh I
Starting point is 02:57:17 I don't want to ruin it for you man I don't want to ruin it for you it's it's it's it's I wish I could be as funny as the guy who made farting on my roommate's door I mean my brain only goes so many places and I'm just like... Yeah, you would think. You would really think.
Starting point is 02:57:40 It only can go so wrong so many ways, you know? Yeah, you would think. Hold on. All right. All right. All right. Well, anyway. Hold on. Oh, this is a class. Yeah, right. Yeah, you go. Here you go. Here you go. Okay, but this is going to fuck up the stream sounds to...
Starting point is 02:58:04 All right. Watch it on your phone! Sounds matter? Okay. Woolly. Okay, all right, all right. No, no, because the browser's muted so that no one's going to hear... Yeah, so you watch it on your phone.
Starting point is 02:58:21 Which I put away over here because I... Okay, all right, hold on. All right. Farting on my roommate's door. That's a big ripper. He's got the tippy toes and everything. Did you see it? Did you see it? I saw it. I did see it.
Starting point is 02:59:18 I couldn't hear the entirety of, um... Yeah. of the commentary. I saw it. Oh. Wait, what the hell? Why am I not red on my own OBS, but I'm red up on Discord?
Starting point is 02:59:38 I don't know. A white translucent, what? Oh. It's a ghost, man. Okay. Okay. It's a ghost. Okay.
Starting point is 02:59:50 Okay. All right. Well, there's your answer, Capflat. Yeah.

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