Castle Super Beast - CSB339: 3D HORSES CONFIRMED

Episode Date: September 24, 2025

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ALEEN OTHINKING WHEREEN SULLIVANI-AA-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. Hello. You look really good in that blue. Oh, thank you. Like, you look in the lighting and like the yellow underneath? Like, oh, no, that's actually just the... No, that is my, this is my skin.

You look at it. Well, regardless. Yeah, you look really good in that hoodie. Thank you. I've improved the lighting of my setup is what I did. I've changed the lighting of, of, of, the camera and things like that. I fixed the colors and I did some some stuff up here to make the colors look better. I'm a little I'm a little surprised you actually spent a good

amount of time doing that. I figured you'd be spending like most of the last week like getting all your affairs in order. Getting my affairs in order. Well yeah, because it's it's today man. It's today. The rapture. The rapture. It's today. Haven't you been paying attention? Uh-huh. Do you not have your stuff set up for the rapture that is definitely happening today?

Is this left behind? Are we doing left behind? Because left behind was a long time ago, and I haven't heard about that in a long time. I actually don't know what that is. Oh, Left Behind is the series of books that were all about the rapture, and it was about like what happens

when everybody gets raptured away and the life of those who are left behind. you know the rapture is today for realsees okay yeah the left behind book series

you know which is as the name implies the world after everybody goes to heaven um okay September 23rd huh yeah dude

yeah interesting you fly up in a fucking space any second now interesting okay I think the dog just ran away to do the rapture. Can you give me just like literally one second? Yeah, yeah, yeah, go do what you got to do?

Uh-huh. That's supposed to be over there. Okay. The rapture. Well, um, that is not too, that is not dissimilar. No, false alarm. Yeah. Yeah, false alarm.

False alarm. A dog didn't ascend to heaven yet. Okay. Well, listen. Um, just trying to break into a trash can because it's a piece of shit. Well, that's okay. Um, those who are, uh, uh, not going to, you know, those who are going to experience the rapture, uh, what follows is going to be the basis of Seventh-day Adventism. Um, because we've been through this before, right? So, um, the original, the second advent of Jesus Christ was expected to happen, um, On October 22nd, 1844, but that never happened. And so what followed was a time known as the Great Disappointment.

Oh, that's just great. Yeah, I love that. And quite literally, the great disappointment led to a fracturing of the believers into a bunch of different splinters and groups and everyone went, wait, what did we get wrong? And some people went, no, it wasn't this day. forgot to carry the two. It's actually this day. There's a lot of math involved here. Exactly. And so a bunch of different, you know, people went their own ways with it. But one of those that, um, one of the, one of the interpretations changed enough that, uh, Ellen G. White, uh, one of the authors of, uh, of an original book of the three angels messages that went on to form the seventh day Adventist church. So all I'm trying to say is I've been here before. Oh, yeah. I suppose. You know, I know what it's about. And I have thoroughly, I have experienced the great disappointment before.

Oh, darn. Yes, the new version for our current time can be known as the Great Cope. Oh, I like that. Yeah. Oh, the Raptor's been delayed till Thursday. My mistake, that's the 25th. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Yeah. No, there's always, there's always, like, there's, always somebody who goes, no, no, no, no, no, we messed up the math. There's always that person. There's always that guy. The guy who's like, no, you guys, you messed it up. Dude, I love that guy. That's my favorite guy in the whole thing. We were totally right. It's just there was a simple mistake on the equation. It's an arithmetic. It could happen anybody. Yeah, yeah. And then there's the, well, there's those who, you know, the getting your affairs in order means a lot of different things to different people. And there's those who

were like, yeah, I'm selling all my possessions. I'm getting rid of everything. I've been watching that go down and it's, it's, I'm putting on my robes and I'm going up to the mountain top and I'm just going to sit here and wait, you know? Um, you know, and then you get like, I, I've, I've talked about it a little bit before, but do you know the, um, the Kevin Smith movie, um, Red State? Uh, I've heard of it. Okay. So, okay. I'm going to, if you have, it's a very, I really, enjoyed it. I thoroughly, thoroughly loved it and I'm going to spoil it for it. It's an old movie, so if anyone hasn't seen it

and you want to, don't listen. But it's basically the equivalent of like a bunch of characters that get stuck with a murderous West Borough Baptist Church. Right? And, yeah, if you didn't like it, that's fine. I enjoyed it,

especially with my particular background, seeing a bunch of insane religious zealids going nuts and this thing was wild. But one of the things they do at one point is while they're trying to escape from the murderers someone makes it away and during their

final shootout where the survivors and the family are all going nuts there is a moment where the sound of trumpets horns and brass fill the air and everyone

that's like amongst the cultists drop all their weapons and go oh my God it's happening And you hear the, you just hear, blah, and it's like, it's a deafening sound of trumpets and horns, you know, and I had a proper pants shit moment in the theater going, are they actually doing it in this movie? Are you seriously going to have this, this insane crazy movie? Just go, yeah, and then it happened, right? And so there's a pit in my gut. There's a feeling of just like anxiety and quees in this.

one moment because up to this point especially remember the entirety of my life has been but what if you're wrong but what if one day it happens though what if it's real right it's like that pit in your stomach part of like where you was part of that like what if that sound you're hearing isn't from the movie outside the theater no it was just it just it scratched at a real life feeling that uh anyone who's grown up in a church and then left it feels which is but what if suddenly one day you hear the trumpet sound because you've been told for your entire childhood that's going to happen sometime you know and dude i got to tell you i did not grow up in a religious household like my mom went to church yeah i occasionally have that feeling of like

when when i encounter like the power out in the world like you know or around those types of people i have that moment we're like oh man though what if like what if like right now yeah yeah yeah you know And so, like, this is not going to be relatable for, for everybody. But, you know, if you know, you know, so when that, when the movie has this moment and it plays the sound of the second coming and everyone goes, what the fuck for real? And then all the crazy cultists stop, drop their weapons and start praising. And they're so happy. And they're like, we did it. We hung out and we waited just long enough.

And yeah, we did all these horrible things, but we did it in the name of God. and it's going to be great because he's about to come back and then in that time when they start just giving up and being happy the rest of the people escaping and then reinforcements show up and they just start taking out the cultists like fuck this and they just they just pop they top them all off just bang fuck you guys

and then it turns out one of the people that escaped went near went to like a nearby area where there was a brass horn section that was practicing for an orchestra and then they just blasted speakers as loud as possible from the from uh the farm next door you can't do that that's not fair and they just lined the skies up with the sound of the second coming and man nah you know like oh that's immoral don't do that it was so sick it was crazy like there's a point where someone like yeah someone one of them just gets like blown up or whatever

and the person their partner is like doesn't even care because like who cares god's here it's all gonna work at it's it's crazy but it's that it's that moment you know so i think of that i think of uh you know the the the millerites and the great disappointment and the the people that are trying to calculate the dates um well apparently it's no longer today apparently it's thursday so you got plenty of time to do whatever you sell your stuff get it all get it all yeah yeah okay i got to see on tech talk a really genuinely incredible interaction, which was, I just sold my car. I don't need it anymore. I'm ready. And then, like, a couple swipes later was an older woman going, hey, guy who sold me your car,

I'm not giving it back to you on Friday. Like, it is my car now. Oh, man. Damn. Sell all your rapture coin. All your shit, like, whatever shit coins you've been holding on to, now's the time, guys. man that's great um i'd love to see the the equation on that because there's oftentimes there's always a point where i like i don't know how close you've ever gotten to like staring at where and why but like always an assumed number at some point in the beginning that changes the formula so what you've got to do is you go you got to go back to revelation at

some point and you got to find one of the books and you got to find a chapter and verse and then you have to take a random word and turn that into a number that's and then start from there. There's no, no, but if you go back to the Greek translation, which was then translated from the Aramaic before the King John's version, King James version, excuse me, every Aramaic letter also has a numeric value. So the whole thing of like names and numbers existing means that they can both be the same. So if you're into numerology and you're one of those people that tries to connect those things already, boy, oh boy.

does original Bible have infinite madness well for you to dive down, you know, because you can just tie numbers to everything, to every word, to every meaning. And those numbers can be... That sounds like a fun diversion? Yeah. Those numbers can be anything, you know? Never mind the, like, arbitrary sense of counting that, you know, is different depending on where you live in the world. It's like, we've got metric and we've got imperial. We've got, you know, the calendar is pretty much the same, but, you know, does daylight savings account for things? Does the rapture start earlier in Japan? Don't even let me start it on stellar drift.

Okay, don't even, don't even, does the rapture appear in, does the, does Greenwich Meridian time denote when the rapture occurs or are we going with East Coast, you know? So, yeah, anyways, all right. What about a leap year? That's a great question. What about a leap year? Well, leap years aren't real. They're fake.

I saw something a while ago, and I don't know if it's, speaking of fake, I don't know if it's real or not, but it was upsetting because it was a thing that said, like, if we adjusted one thing, we'd never need leap years or, and like, like, it was like a, instead of the every four year kind of thing, they, what was it? There's a, there's a simple solution to not needing a leap years. And it's one of those things. It's like, yeah, people come up with a better system and you're like, okay, that's a better system. It doesn't matter everyone on the whole planet. uses the solar system yeah you know it's too late it's too it is it is it is definitely too late and like you know we're we're already in it um but like kind of like uh farmers are almanac shit and daylight savings you know after the fact there's like people come up with ways to like we can completely fix this um nah it's fine well anyway you don't need to fix it not important Um, how's, how's it going? Speaking of Rapture. It's going bad because I finished my sub-goal and finished all of Bioshock Infinite and

Returns to Rapture, indeed. Um, so I always remember, um, being told, um, I remember, I was talking to my, actually, yes. I remember, I was, I remember who told me this. I have a friend my toe that told me. that burial at sea was the best part of Infinite. And that is a not uncommon statement from the time. And that it was a, you know, it was a cool return to the original series and was handled much better than the base game was. So we've talked and mocked a good deal of Bioshock Infinite's baseball.

plot um over the years the game is now 13 14 years old i feel very confident talking about my issues with burial at sea in more detail than you would otherwise see um i'm going to just put it in a turn in a in a bullet that will hit you right in your heart burial at sea is the parasite eve third birthday of the bioshock series oh my god until the end of time of Bioshock. Oh my God, that's fighting words. Wow, that's violence. You chose violence.

That's a crazy thing to say. You know, we, you know what? Wow. A crazy thing to say. Friend of the show, Gene Park, reporter over at the Washington Post, was watching my burial

of the Sea Part 2 stream and threw down in the chat for real zies and clarified he totally meant it later. I have not felt this sick since I had the cancer. Okay, Gene gets to, yeah, Gene gets to use that one. He's just holding it in his fucking pants pocket, just ready to pocket sand it at something. That's a nice one you can drop one at the time is right.

So what the fuck? Okay. So we have two, we have two paths to go down here, right? Oh, is it? One is, okay, how does it actually? physically play, which is because Bioshock Infinite has the two arguments. One is that the story doesn't make any sense and is actually poorly written

and not actually as interesting as thinks it is. And the second of which is that Bioshock Infinite actually plays way way worse than Bioshock 1 and 2, which it definitely does. Hold on stop, pause. The two arguments are

this game's story is garbage and no, no, no, the gameplay is garbage. That's the two sides to stand on here. That's the two sides of the story. Yeah. That's the two sides of the plane. Okay.

Just make it sure. Yeah. Because it's one of those things where people like, oh, man, the story was so mind blowing. And they go, ah, yeah, maybe it was kind of dumb. But I had so much fun playing it, right? And then you're like, no, you didn't. Like, it's one of the few things I actually feel like really confident and saying, like, no, you didn't. You were 12.

Okay. Okay. That's why. So one of the big pro, I'll go with gameplay first, right? So one of the big problems that's happening in Bioshock Infinite is you only have two guns at any given time, and that's weird, and that sucks. And the Sky Hook stuff is like really, really, like, underutilized and also not actually that big of a deal. Elizabeth just throws you ammunition whenever you need it. You know, all the elements that were made interesting about Bioshock 1 and 2 are just gone.

You have way, way, way less options. All the vigors and plasmids that you get in. In Bioshock Infinite, like, I think like 60, 70% of them are stuns. The crow is a stun. Undertoe is a type of pulling stun. Black stun, blue stun, red stun, yellow stun. Yeah, like it's, one's a grenade. Like, they're very, they're very boring.

They're very dull. So overall, it's like a massive step down, right? So we get to, um, we get to Bioshock burial, let's see, Bioshock infinite burial, let's see, of which there are two parts. It's part one and part two. uh they're totally separated there's no there's like there's story continuity but like gameplay wise you're not like carrying your gear in from one to the other right uh in bioshock burial let's see um part one you go back to rapture and you're like wow rapture looks really cool it's really

interesting to be in rapture before it falls apart right it's it's before the new year's so it's actually like a normal place it looks gorgeous uh and you you're walk and talk and you hear, you know, little rapturisms and people arguing about the free market and just being a whole bunch of stupid hypocrites. And, um, you start to run into like, like game play contrivances that ruin the I'm going back to rapture thing. So Booker, who you were playing as in Burialtsey, Part 1, just has a couple of the Bioshock-Shokin Infinite Vivided. figures he doesn't have placements he has the ones from bioshock infinite okay um and you just buy them in this you you can buy a couple extra in a in a vending machine and they're the ones from bioshock infinite they are not the equivalence from rapture it's not electro bolt it's

shock jockey and it works like shock jockey and it acts like shock jockey and all of a sudden you're like that's weird okay so just just gameplay mechanics from infinite or just dropped into Rapture. Yeah, and then you walk over to a dead body and he goes, oh, cool, an air grabber. And Elizabeth goes, do you mean a skyhook? He goes, nah, air grabber. The kids down to the docks use them to ride the rails. And so I guess Rapture just had sky rails under the sea the whole time.

Okay. And they just, they just transplant the sky rail thing directly into the levels. So lazy, lazy fitting into the engine, into the system. Yeah, sure. And they give you your weapon wheel back. And in order to incentivize you using your weapon wheel, you get like no ammunition at any point. So you have to constantly change guns because you are literally carrying around like five handgun bullets at maximum. Oh, but it lets you switch between all the weapons like before.

But you let you switch between different guns. Okay. They do weird stuff like every gun you get is the gun from infinite and not the gun from Bioshock 1 or 2. because that's what they had ready in the engine. And from an architectural standpoint, it looks like Raptor's gorgeous, right? Rapture's an incredible location. And one of the things that I said in one of the final parts of doing Vioshock Infinite was that Rapture and Columbia are not equal in their art design because Columbia is this beautiful, gorgeous city among the clouds and Rapture is the city under the sea. But the difference is that in Columbia, you often go into the east.

interiors of buildings and it ceases to be a city in the sky. It's just the interior of a building. Yeah, true. There aren't actually very many windows that are blown open that let you really show it off. But even then, you'd usually only just see the sky. Almost every single room in everything to do with Bioshock 1 or 2 is like it's leaking. There's busted pipes. There's a wall caved in with water flowing in. Like it is, it is overtly underneath the ocean. and you can't escape it in any place, which is why it gets super weird when you start playing Bioshock Infinite Burial at Sea,

and they forgot some of the design ethic that went into Bioshock 1 and 2 because it's actually Columbia spaces with a Bioshock 1 coat of paint on top of them. It has huge open-air atrium spaces everywhere. It's like lots of Colombian, like super wide. super broad, super tall architecture, but just happens to be under

the ocean. And it's like, this this feels inconsistent. This feels like really like, ah, this doesn't fit. No, like there's, most of the spaces you were in were submarine tunnels and it was very claustrophobic and every once in a while it would open up into like a larger space, but that was

a holy shit. It was a big atrium for a reason. In Bioshock 1 that has like the big the big um window in front of the the the rich people sees like that's like the largest window in like the fucking game and it's because it's a it's a high-end restaurant that spent lots of time getting that like bubble thing i'm remembering a lot i am remembering a lot of infinite being like walking down the street outside you know um and and then like switching and then yeah going interior for some sections extended periods of time yeah um

you fight a big daddy they don't do it to you like they did it in the in infinite you do get to fight a big daddy cool cool cool it's not really a big daddy it looks like one and it has some of its moves but it's not it's a handyman with a big daddy skin on top of it uh and i know this there's a clip out there uh you i could i could link it to you but it's a minute long when the big daddy showed up I threw bucking bronco at it and it lifted the big daddy off the ground and stunned it for two, three seconds

and then I unloaded a full, like literally all my handgun animation into it and handgun ammunition into it and then it fell down and then I hit it with bucking bronco and I switched to a different gun and emptied the whole clip into it and then I hit the ground and I bucking broncoed it again and again and again and again and I stunlocked it from zero to death like a touch of deathed it with my Bioshock Infinite stun

and I got like two hits on and it was like it was exactly the same technique that I used fighting the handyman and it's like Bioshock Infinite's biggest problem like more than more than its story is that tons of its moves are stuns

and enemies can't actually break out of stuns for long enough to not get restunned like there's no stun decay on anything and you can stun people while they are inside stunts and you can stun you can stun people when they hit the floor after being stunned so you can just stun lock them

when I finished infinite I had the crow power up where you throw crows of people and birds attack them and they get locked in place they get locked in place for like 45, 50 seconds and if they died while being attacked by birds their corpse became a crow trap that if any enemy came within five feet they would also get attacked by birds

and I discovered and you people who watched it live got to see this or the YouTube archive the murder of crow's power is so wide it's actually wider than your view so it is like a 15 foot wide rectangle that advances from your character and just stunlocks like literally

every single person that could be in front of you in an area. Okay. So basically, like, the return to rapture is not so much a return to rapture as it is, again, just, like, shoving it into, shoving the skin on top of everything, but the gameplay probably still remain there. Yeah, it's like, you want some more Boshawk infinite levels that happen to look like Rapture.

Waring the skin kind of like, well, it's kind of like Lisa the painful characters that just writ the flesh ripped over it. Yeah. Okay. So that. It's really disappointing. on like a mechanical standpoint. And that's the first D.L.C.

The second D.L.C. plays way, way worse. Like the big finale of Bioshock Infinite Story is by far the worst playing part of the game. You lose, you're playing as a new character. You lose your regenerating Halo Shield. So you're down to just have. health, you're given

almost no arms and ammunition, and to deal with that, you're going to be doing stealth sequences and their ship. Fun. Fun. And they're shit. Amazing. So you're playing a much weaker, less

durable version of the character that also has to do stealth sequences that are terrible. Sick. It is, it like from a gameplay perspective it's really frustrating i did the thing that i very rarely do i got to about 60 70 percent and i went fuck this and turned the difficulty down to the easiest and was like no i just want to see what happens because this plays like shit okay okay um

so really genuinely not fun to play yeah like even compared to the base game uh i saw you know as the discussion has been going on about this since you returned to it, I saw someone kind of point out that like, one of the simplest things about the original Bioshock games that worked super well was

the goal was really clear. You were trapped in this underwater submarine libertarian hellhole escape. And it was a nightmare. There are monsters everywhere. Just get the fuck out. That's it. Yeah. I saw that threat as well. Yeah. Versus in Columbia where it's unclear.

and you're going, you're leaning into it. You're trying to find the people and the motivations. You're trying to find her. But it's just, it's not quite, it doesn't have that same spark that's driving you forward as you go through it. I don't know if I talked about it here, but I talked about it at length when I was streaming it where one of the first things Elizabeth does when you run into her in her tower is open up a portal to Paris.

And then the ambulance almost hits her. And so like the whole game, you're like, we could just leave like you could just do that we could just leave we just go anywhere like the whole like 60% of the Bioshock infinite's plot is like we gotta get an airship to leave

but you could just leave you could just leave like that and what was the reason why yeah what was the oh I always get got brought back I always feel drawn back because of my family but she doesn't know anyone and she's the only person she's ever met in her life is songbird and she hates

songbird so like it's just it just doesn't it doesn't make any sense like you could just leave at any point it would be no problem right because I do remember that portal and I don't remember what the contrivance was against it yeah okay

um so yeah from for for a gameplay perspective it's really bad it's it's really really terrible it is by far the worst of all the gameplays between all of them and all their DLCs um

so that's that's like that's the bedrock that the following statements are going to rest on. Yeah, well, I was going to ask, what do you think it is then that makes that such a common sentiment that people say that's the best part of Bioshock Infinite? Because Rapture is an incredibly cool location. Is it just the nostalgic return to the location and the feeling behind that? Yeah, okay. Because now we're going to talk about the story. And you're going to have to reevaluate the person that told you.

like their taste as to them saying like that was the best part of Bioshock Infinite. So, um, I'm going to spoil the Bioshock Infinite base game and I'm going to spoil the DLCs here because there's way too much to talk about without, by dancing around it, right? Uh, so be warned. I'm going to, I'm going to talk about it. So do you remember, do you remember, um, Ken Levine? and I know you do because we talked

we joked about it last week being like no don't do the porn on the Elizabeth very wrong to do yeah very bad so we're going to start out

by Elizabeth being visibly older and having like gotten a BBL and breast implants like she's packing it in it's crazy

it's ridiculous wearing what is canonically a prostitutes fetish outfit like you find an audio log from the sex worker she stole the outfit from and she like

literally breasts boobily around and heaves her bosom how much time later has passed from in game or like in in real world in game uh

half hour oh it's just okay okay No, sorry, two months, two months, two months later. Okay, so just the Elizabeth art asset has been updated to breast bubbly around. Yeah, absolutely. Gotcha, okay. Okay. You know what?

Burial. Let's see Elizabeth. Let me just get a photo of this. Yeah, let's just, here you go. This is a perfect example of her new design. Just absolutely just. her cup size is bigger okay

and she's doing the the noir dame stuff kind of stuff so you're playing as Booker in burial at sea part one

which right away means that everything that you ever said to defend the not you but the royal you to defend the ending of Boshchak infinite

is wrong because the drowning at the baptism didn't work because there's more bookers because it's infinite right um so you just jump into it you just jump into a different one yeah you're just jumping you're just playing as Booker and Rapture um

and uh the entirety of Bearer at C part one is uh Booker knows this little girl who got disappeared and they suspect she got turned into a little sister and Elizabeth wants to help him find her. So you're going to different parts of Rapture to try and track her down. You run in Sandra Cohen.

Okay. I see I would have always assumed without knowing like how it gets set up or why that this was like in an alternate reality before all the shit that happened at the end of Infinite went down, there was a booker that was in Rapture, you know? And then the Elizabeth jumping portal

shit could work into that in a particular moment of climax that would be much more interesting than what i'm about to tell you well shit this was a constant thing that happened is i would be like hmm i wonder if this and then the thing that i would um mention would be dashed against the rocks and they would go no here's the dumbest shit you could you could imagine so the long and short of it is that the reason why elizabeth traveled to rapture in 1958 this version of rapture anyway to track down booker de witt who is definitely booker de witt uh is because after the baptism drowning he is the last one that got away he was the last

calm stock slash booker that got away how do he get away how do he get away shut up shut up but the whole point of that moment is that every branch

this one got away this one did he went he actually had he was in Columbia and then he left and he hid in rapture and the reason he hid in rapture

is because you reenact the scene where he's grabbing Elizabeth through the portal but this time instead of her pinky he fucks up and her head gets chopped off and we get to get to get an implied

baby decapitation which sucks and Elizabeth has traveled here to this rapture so she can take her revenge on him because he's the last and

the worst of all the calm stocks which doesn't make any sense at all. And how does she take her revenge on him? Well, you go on this whole, instead of like walking into his office and just shooting him in the face with a gun, which would totally be viable and she could just do,

they go on this long quest so they can track down the little sister that he failed to save and she can like gloat about it and then literally lock the, little sister in like a in like an oven and cook her so that he freaks out and while that's happening elizabeth's like see see you fuck and then a big daddy kills him um and it's it's like wildly psychotic and cruel what the fuck for the elizabeth character what the fuck it's it is

absolutely like fucked like instead of just taking her revenge on him she like cooks a little sister in like a microwave hallway Jesus Christ. As as the little girl is like screaming to be let out of like the, because they heat up the vents in the, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just like screaming to come out. It's like interspersed with like, oh, here's how little baby Elizabeth got

decapitated. By the way, this one booker got away though. Even though you got all the bookers, this one, this one got away. Is this in Fallen Rapture or like Peak Rapture? so this is actually a really good good point so this takes place uh in uh about a week before uh the new year's eve where it all popped off okay and this is taking place in fontaine's department

store where andrew ryan has taken fontaine and all of his goons and just throw them at the bottom of the ocean and they're in jail like they can't get out they're just stuck in the sunken version of fontaine's houseware's department basically uh so this is pre Crisis Rapture, but the part you're in is like a fucked up jail slash department store. So that's why it's all torn to shit like you would expect from a Bioshock game, right? So you're like, okay, that was absolute psycho behavior from Elizabeth. Yeah. She later on goes to say that she spent months performing for Sander Cohen so she could find out where the little sister was so she could.

um trick booker into going to go get her so she could shame him when booker has like a available office off like a main plaza that she just knows where it is like the whole point of her like finding the girl and then showing off and he gets his memories back and shah fuck and then a big daddy kills him it's like the whole it's super super weird and psycho behavior it's absolutely crazy and she's super evil and so the narrative then shifts at that point That's right. So, that's the end of Barial C, part one, in which at the end of Burial C. Part 1, Elizabeth has taken her revenge against the final constock, a concept that invalidates the entirety of the main game story. It doesn't make any sense at all. And so we start up Bioshock burial at C2, in which we get to see a nice little version of Paris, which has like a child dancing around in Paris. holding a gigantic baguette over his head like what I think Americans think is happening

in France The postcard friends that Japan believes in That's right And then it turns out that's like a dream Or like a parallel whatever right And then Elizabeth snaps out of it And Elizabeth snaps out of it And

And burial at sea Part 1 is like pretty bad Barrio at C part 2 is the actual Like this is the kill shot So what we discover Is that after Booker got killed by the Big Daddy the one that I

stunned locked to death in like two seconds he gets killed in the cutscene after that happened and she took her revenge on the final Booker the Big Daddy turned around and immediately killed her like instantly

like just saw she was there and went ah and crashed her through a wall and impaled her on a beam and she's dead sure and then off camera the Elizabeth that still has all their powers was like I would like to go back there to the same spot where my dead body is

because I feel bad about that little girl that I torched in a fucking oven and I should actually save her because it's wrong that I didn't save her and in so doing loses all of her powers and becomes a regular person okay so she goes back to stop herself in that moment nope nope she goes back afterwards

and she's like i have to i have to go on and walk past my own corpse and save that little girl from being a little sister because i harmed her in the oven thing um and i've lost all my powers now and the luteses literally tell her you'll lose all your powers to be a normal person and she's like i just have to do it because i'm involved now because I involve myself I have to save the little girl But this is Elizabeth Prime Odds, but they're both

They are all Elizabeth Prime Simultaneously? Okay, okay They all are. They all are. Okay. And so right off the bat, they explain,

well, because Elizabeth came to a universe in which she was already dead, she lost all her powers and became a normal person. Okay, and she knew what that Elizabeth did because of their connection. Yeah, but because of the way that

Bioshock sets up its infinite universes, every Elizabeth, everywhere would get into a world where Elizabeth had died because she drowned Comstock and then evaporated herself across all timelines.

And doesn't that also imply that every Elizabeth is that evil piece of shit because they all are that Elizabeth? They all have the capacity to do go this far for revenge it's not like that's the one that is particular branched out in here when that is going through it it's like no they're all that one so this is a flaw with her as a character universally and they actually they she's a piece of shit credit say they point out like like father like daughter and that like she's actually like kind of a fucking piece of shit

all elizabeth's in every the multiverse elizabeth universal universal pro is is garbage So I want to, I saw many, a Quacklane in the, in the chat point is really important. This is really important. This is a big detail. The Big Daddy goes nuts and attacks Elizabeth in Booker because they're messing with a little sister. Mm-hmm. Right? Mm-hmm.

That's the behavior you would expect. Yes. Correct. Okay. So, you start going through Fontaine's Housewheres Department, and she's just a regular person. And we start to engage in the narrative of a burial at C, part two. where you immediately run into Atlas, who is pretending to not be Fontaine. Right. Okay.

And Elizabeth's, uh, gets roped into a deal where she is constantly back and forthing between Su Chong, the evil doctor and Atlas of the anti-Ryan rebellion in a way to, uh, let Atlas out of his cage and get back to. to Rapture so that he can start the war that destroys Rapture. Okay. Okay. So she's also

directly responsible for the events. And she's working with Su Chong because guess what? You know what Su Chong had in the background of Boshok One? He had a working tear machine. And him and Fink,

they would talk on the phone all the time. And they crowed. developed the big daddy songbird vigors plasmids etc that was actually all co-development across infinite and boshchok one and do you know why no one's super nuts in a boshawk infinite from plasmid use because fink just figured out a way to make them safe so it's like oh if you if you drink them they're safe they don't make you go nuts it would have been fine the whole time yep okay it does use 10 times as much

Adam which is not good for business okay um but like there's a gigantic like blackboard in Su Chang's lab that's like the the drinkable version is safe okay so but hold on though um just so

like so is but is there also an implication here that like rapture life would have totally been fine and everything would have been a okay Okay. Otherwise. If burial, if the events that Elizabeth takes a part of in Burialcy, Part 2 did not occur, Rapture would have kept going. That's insane. That's insane because the whole thing is that the philosophy of the places was, it crumbles under its philosophy, Pat.

The whole point of the story is that it crumbles under the ideals. The ideals lead to the outcomes. There was an article like a long time ago. where Calabine mentioned that he just chose objectivism as a particular philosophy. He didn't actually feel all that strongly about it. And you're like, that's absolutely insane. You actually wrote like this super intense game about the total eventual failure of the system. But now you get to this and you're like, no, no, no, an outside force destroyed rapture.

She secretly tied Anakin's shoelaces together so that when he would jump against Obi-W. he would trip up and fall and the only reason why obi won got to cut him down so su chong now let's think about this okay this is new year's eve the day before the rapture war right okay little sister's running around there's big daddy's running around yeah i'm trying to remember the details but okay so atlas wants to leave his prison and go start the war what does su chong want from your character. Sue Chong can't get Big Daddy's to imprint

on Little Sisters and needs your help. Now let's ignore a couple of facts. One, a Big Daddy killed you because you fucked with a little sister. So the imprinting clearly exists, but no, it doesn't. He hasn't figured it out yet. Okay. Two,

Bioshock 2 is now evaporated from Canon. Because Eleanor and Delta exist years prior to these events. So, Bioshock 2, gone. Okay. Gone. It didn't happen. Nothing in Bioshock 2 happened.

Evaporated. Because Souchon needs to figure out the imprinted. Yeah, okay, because the details I'm not remembering. I'm not fresh on. Big Daddy's protect little sisters because they're imprinted on them. No, but Bioshock 2's impact on the setting. Yeah, Bioshock 2 is like you were a big daddy for years before the Rapture thing. Yes, yes, yes.

So Bioschok 2, gone. Okay. The best game, gone. Evaparated. Didn't happen. Also, remember, this is the day before rapture fell apart, and big daddies are not actually tethered to little sisters, which also makes like zero sense at all. Okay. Okay. So, how are we going to get the imprinting to work?

So guess what? Su Chong's like, well, um, Fink got Songbird to imprint on that girl. Oh. Oh, come on. That? They just fucking, uh. Oh, that sucks. Oh, you, you fucking think you're,

you're fucking mad. Get ready. So, Su Chong's like, yo, you have to go back to Columbia and get a lock of the hair that he used on Songbird,

which of course is Elizabeth's own hair. but that's not actually important, right? You got to go back to Columbia. So what happens? We go back to Columbia and we go back to Columbia dead center of the middle of Bioshock Infinite while Booker and you, Elizabeth, are running around doing Bioshock Infinite stuff, right? So you arrive in Columbia and you're like, I've got to get to Fink's Lab. Well, if you remember Wully, I don't know, this is a bit of a minor detail, but if you

If you remember, Fink's Factory was the site of the big battle between Booker, Elizabeth, and the Vox. So while you're crawling around in the vents, you find a vent, you can look through. And you know, the Lutetes are there. And they're doing their, oh, we're magic. We're basically pixie demons. Who are they talking to? Oh, that's right. They're talking to Daisy Fitzroy.

And they're talking to Daisy Fitzroy. And do you know what they're telling Daisy Fitzroy? They're saying, listen, Elizabeth is really important, and she needs to become a powerful, independent woman. So you are going to have to fake getting ready to kill that child so that Elizabeth kills you and becomes white woman Jesus. And Daisy Fitzroy goes, I don't understand that at all, but okay. The whole thing with the civil rights murderer, Vox Populi shit. Oh, my God. So Daisy went.

Oh, this is the worst. Yeah, it's the worst, dude. She goes from being like insane fanatical murdering psycho for nothing to well. Actually, we need you to set that up. Yeah, she's, they're like, well, you have to die so Elizabeth can become the savior. Was this an attempt to, like, to, like, launder that plot point after the fact, after realizing how shittily it was received? It's difficult for me. It's difficult for me to get this across, but as I was going through it, the entire DLC reads like a no, but to the Reddit thread.

Yeah, no, oh, we fucked up with Daisy. No, no, no, no, no, no. You don't understand. No, no, actually. She's a hero. She killed herself for reasons She didn't understand Oh my God

Told her to just kill herself It was no It wasn't Daisy's fault She didn't do that It was fine in the end And like The retcon I think it's super important

And it's like the most important part Is that Daisy does not understand Why she is even doing it Gwen Stacy was having shit and all the Elizabeth magic stuff was beyond her. Gwen Stacy was having an affair with the goblins so she deserved to get her neck

brook at cheating whore. So, um... What the fuck, man? So you get to an elevator and you go down the elevator and as you go down the elevator, you just get to see Daisy and Booker and Elizabeth have the cutscene and you're like a foot behind them. You're like

breathing on the back and they're a ha ha! And it's like, and I just yelled out like, shut up! You weren't there! That's so stupid but anyway she was so Daisy Fitzroy dies so that Elizabeth can become

white Jesus white Jesus yeah which is like it's actually even worse it's so stupid does she okay and do the not the Lusesses but like

is is that one of those things like is it does Daisy get what they're saying like like no no she doesn't understand they just okay but She does it anyway.

They're like, they're like, remember how we told you you would do this? And like, they're like talking about how they know the future. It's like, well, she, Elizabeth needs to be a woman. And what's the difference between a girl and a woman? And Daisy goes, blood. And then they talk like two or three more lines. And she's like, I guess I have to. They basically tell her outright, you have to pretend to kill this baby so that

Elizabeth kills you. And Daisy's like, I don't get it. but okay is that a period joke was that yes okay again bizarre fascination

with Elizabeth's period in this game in both games actually um this all right so so we get to

sure sure sure sure sure sure we get to Fink's Lab okay and we get to Fink's Lab and we start going through the songbird imprinting

lab process and you get to go through all the failed attempts at imprinting Songbird on Elizabeth and at one point she holds up a big document that basically describes how

think tried to just put a bunch of oxytocin injectors in Songbird's suit that would just blast off every time the songbird saw Elizabeth so like songbird would see Elizabeth

and they'd be like love chemical and I'm like that would probably be a really good way to imprint something and then she like holds it up a little higher and it's like unsuitable oh I guess it didn't work oh did this one never worked and I'm like the one time the whole DLC that I'm like oh that's actually that would have been a really good solution actually yeah no it doesn't so hey how did you know you find the secret how did songbird originally imprint on Elizabeth hmm um Elizabeth was chilling in her tower at like 10 and Songbird

got beat up and crashed through the tower from I'm shrugging here something and Elizabeth affixed its mask

so it didn't die and that caused Songbird to love her so they use the analogy of like the lion and the thorn in its paw

right and you're like okay yeah I could have gone with the the blast of fucking chemicals actually that would have been sick

yeah yeah all right yeah okay um so we we Elizabeth gets back to rapture

and of course she has the magic particle that lets all the Colombian ships fly but she has no powers right this is regular no no powers no yeah yeah okay so she uh go to the top of the houseware's

department and puts the little flying particle inside the building and hey look, Fontaine's houseware's department is rising from the sea and can now reconnect with Rapture. And so Atlas has essentially been let off his leash, right? Atlas then, and this is the

part that like it really feels like they didn't remember who Atlas was as a character. Atlas then with a bunch of his like regular ass revolutionary goons, just start to beat the fuck out of and torture the shit out of Elizabeth because they're convinced that she knows what the ace in the hole is and they just keep asking that over and over and over

for like a period of weeks as the war is going on in the background they're just kicking the fucking shit out of Elizabeth and also causing you to go through like a set up to a transorbital lobotomy which is done from first person because they just we need the ace in the hole the ace in the hole we need it and they assume she has it

this is the part of the game that I forgot to tell you about during burial at sea part two the magic ghost of Booker DeWitt that never was is talking to you the whole time yeah yeah sure man why not

of course he is just like I'm not even real I don't know why you're talking to me yeah that's cool yeah okay Anyway, he says, hey, Elizabeth, when you knew where all the doors were, you saw where you would be, you were going to go to Su Chong's lab. And so she goes, okay, I'll get you the ace from Su Chong's lab. And they go, okay, fine. So you go to Su Chong's lab. And when you get to Su Chong's lab, what do you find?

You find that you never actually told Su Chong how the imprinting worked. So weeks into the Civil War, big daddies are still not imprinted on. little sisters. But that doesn't make sense. It's like the singular core concept of the whole thing and like that's happening right away and they're walking around guiding them

immediately. No. No, it's not. It didn't. So Elizabeth finds a damaged hurt big daddy and two little sisters near him that are scared of him and she does a bunch of magic nonsense

and remembers how she helps Songbird and she teaches the first little sister how to put Adam into a big daddy and the big daddy is like I love this little sister and Elizabeth solves the imprinting process because it's the same as me fixing the beak

at which point you walk into a part of Su Chang's office and they reenact Su Chong's famous audio log where he slaps the little sister and the big daddy kills him so chung literally never figures it out she doesn't

he doesn't even know doesn't even know which comes to mind then how did the rest of the fucking imprint whatever it doesn't matter oh because it only applied to the one that was in the lab at the time right yes to one basis yes yes

right this was the part of the stream where we're going to move off to the side where I started to talk to chat and to Gene in particular where somebody mentioned that Dr. Su Chong in Bashock is Korean

to which I said that's fucking super weird why is he speaking in an incredibly heavily accented Chinese accent in English to which everyone was like I don't know

are you sure that's a Chinese accent to which Jean and a couple other Korean guys were like yeah no that's a Chinese accent he's doing. But that's not the part that's actually really strange. The part that's strange

is that you find he's got a bunch of hidden notes. He's encoded like what looks like the periodic table or chemical notes. But it's actually you know, like his secret notes, it just needs a cipher, right? And so Elizabeth, being the genius that she is, decodes it like, that

and discovers that his secret notes, the Dr. Su Chong, the Korean guy who speaks English as a second language, has been writing all of his secret notes about Big Daddy's and Adam in broken English encoded for secrets instead of I don't know just fucking Korean in Korean for example baffling absolutely nuts yes it's fucking weird well never seen anything like that yeah mm-hmm the mysteries of the Orient Pat you see it's all the same thing and

therefore we can just don't think about it All right, so... Done and done. Yeah. So now Elizabeth has caused the big daddies to know how to protect little sisters. One of them. So multiple weeks into the Civil War, now little sisters are going to be protected. Once the big daddy, I guess, tells all his big daddy friends how it works.

But the ace. She has to get the ace back to Atlas. Well, I don't know if you remember the term ace in the hole from Bosch. Shock 1. But the ace in a hole is a little piece of paper that says, would you kindly? Would you kindly? Yeah. Yeah. So she gets the would you kindly thing. And then

has a vision of her in an airplane bathroom walking down the aisle while some guy's smoking and pulls a gun out to take over the airplane. Because he's got a goofy little sweater on. Because it's Jack.

Look, she sees the vision of Jack from Bioshock 1. Remember the beginning of Bioshock 1 Elizabeth was there she was on the plane somehow I don't know so she gives

Atlas the would you kindly and he goes cool now we can go do Bioshock 1 and then he beats her to death with the wrench and she dies and in her final

moment she sees a vision of the future because one of the little sisters, this little sister that she had to save, that little sister was one of the little sisters in the Boshawk one good ending. And you see her get out of the bathysphere and walk over to Jack in his stupid little sweater

and hug him. And she's like, I guess it was all worth it. And then she just dies. Oh, my God. And we have gone from an infinite multiverse. verse to everything in Bioshock Infinite happened so that Elizabeth could be responsible for every single thing that happens in Bioshock 1.

And she can, her vision looks past the entire tragedy of the first game to just, to just that one. That's the part that really slams at home where she's like, it's all worth it because I saved this one little girl. Dude, like a million people died. The whole thing. The whole thing. Oh, my God. Wow. On the plus side, on the plus side to all of this, Elizabeth's new design is really hot.

And you find a child indoctrination center run by Andrew Ryan, in which you discover that Andrew Ryan has a fersona called Ryan the Lion that teaches kids about the parasite. Sure. It even has his little mustache. Wow.

Wow. Yep. Straight up for Sona. Okay. Look at him go. It's got a little yogi collar. So like not only does none of the events in Bioshock infinite matter. She causes all of the tragedy that happens in Bioshock 1 and erases Bioshock 2 from existence.

And is also a horrible person definitively. And is a horrible person. A horrible person. see yeah so like jack like in jack in in in bo-shock one is like a like a commentary on lack of choice as a player because jack has no inherent control because would you kindly yes yeah but the point of jack is that he breaks free from that control and has his morality one way or the other but no because elizabeth knew that was going to happen yeah she made sure it happened the domino's fell in place the whole time so jack actually has no agency at all in his entire life. Oh, no, you got to love when a sequel or something else like re-establishes the cage and determinism on something about free will and choice, right? You got to love when that comes in to play afterwards because the dominoes were placed behind

the starting point. So now when you play Boshach 1, the following things are happening. Big Daddy's Only Work because of Elizabeth. Sue Chong is dead because of Elizabeth Atlas is free because of Elizabeth Atlas has controlled you Jack because of Elizabeth Jack killed the people on the plane

because of Elizabeth Ryan's on the back foot in the Civil War because of Elizabeth and a couple hours after you get Electra Bolt the past Elizabeth kills Song

Bird in the Electra Bolt room. Because that's how Songbird gets taken out. When they transport themselves to Rapture in the game's ending, she just drown Songbird in the water outside the Electrabolt room. Okay.

And wait, wait, that's not the thing that causes the damage that she... No, because that's in the future. Okay. Because grandfather paradox, Okay, so let's think about this for a second. And this is my favorite of all the plot holes.

I fucking, this is what people, this is when you come to multiverses, man. Like, this is what everyone is afraid of. This is the worst version. Okay, let's get this. Oh, boy. Loses her powers. If she travels to a world where she's dead. Which she has died.

Yes. Then when Elizabeth in Bioshock Infinite's ending, travels to rapture in 1960, that is the rapture that she has died in twice in 1958. So she should immediately lose her powers and be unable to drown her slash comstock because she's dead there twice. Because there's the original one from the end of part one and then there's the one that kills Songberg. original one from further on in the end of part one. Oh, my God. Yeah.

Okay. Okay. So what, folks, listen, whatever, just, whatever people are like,

wouldn't it be cool if like Bloodbourne and Dark Souls and demon souls were connected? No. No, maybe not. This type of shit is why, right? This is the worst possible outcome for,

hey, if Rapture and Columbia we're kind of with there was a link somehow or a way to visit homage that or something you know like I just I thought it was the lightest little like oh yeah check it out isn't that a crew sort of sort of thing the absolute intertwining and heavy dependency on its existence that's bad shit to make it shock infinite you get a tiny tiny little piece of think being able like oh I can look through tears sometimes because of a little bit I saw like like an aquatic guy and I helped build like songbird based off of that and you basically had this idea of like

think was like copyright infringing on stuff he saw in other universes and that's where that's where all the Colombian technology got came from right he just like saw the idea I was like oh I could steal that uh and then infinite it's like no dude fucking think and su chong were on like interdimensional zoom call for a fucking year co-developing everything in both games oh man Man, including a way to make plasmids in Bioshock 1 safe. Yeah, so just everything you like about the past is also now ruined and shitty. Everything about what was good about what you liked in Bioshock 1 and 2. Fuck.

Elizabeth did it. It was because-Belzbole's crazy. That's so wild to do. Man, way to misread the room. Yeah. Okay. Though the irony here is that because Infinite's DLC, retcons, Bioshock 2 out of canon,

you get to sit there and decide which one you actually want to count. Right. Do you want the really good game to be the one that matters or the shitty DLC? And I'm going to go and play Minerva's Den in a couple of weeks. Third birthday. Because I never beat it. Third birthday is wild, but holy fuck, dude. Holy fuck

Okay Oh man And you see The thing is it's like no Like Because I'm thinking of the like The aggressive retcon Just like gna it was all because of this though

And I think we all agreed that like You know what? Fuck it I kind of love the fact that Akuma was standing right there in Tekken story And made that whole thing happen right And then fucked off back to Street Fighter World You know, it's funny because there's two, there's like, there's a big anime story that happened in the last couple of years that included the plot point of I was actually totally there the whole time whispering to people's ears. Like, I was actually a major plot of the whole thing. And that, that was cool.

This is like I was there for everything ever. So, even though it doesn't make it any better or more interesting. See, the thing is that Tekken story was already dog shit before Akum. walked in to do all that so it doesn't matter versus the fear I felt when it was like after a snake eater please do not fuck with the boss please please please don't fuck with that right

and I guess that's the kind of idea here is essentially Bioshock was fine right I mean like okay the again we talk about the problems with the last boss fight etc but yeah no no Bioshock 1 and 2's like plots are excellent as far as the story goes that's fine you don't need to fuck with that

you don't need to change motivations. The things that we don't know are implied enough off screen to still make the whole thing work. And like taking your fuck up and then shoving that fuck up even further so that it's not just contained to the game it's in, but the tentacles reach out into the past as well is the worst possible thing you can do. This is, I got one for you. This is, this is, this is, this is taking the fucking Prometheus goop and shoving it into alien, right? It's taking the shit from the future that's garbage and ruining the past with it. Hey, remember when Skull Face was behind you during the entirety of Snake Theater? He was there the whole time.

You remember that? Remember Skull Face? Remember when he was there the whole time? He was there. But no, I actually do have one worse for you. Um, because Elizabeth being an interdimensional external force, she unfortunately proves Andrew Ryan correct. He was right. Society would have been fine had it not been externally destroyed.

A man is entitled to the sweat of his brow. It's crazy. Actually, a man is actually entitled to the sweat of his brow. It took a magic wizard from a different dimension to destroy Andrew Ryan's rapture. A. and Rand! Like Jeb, undefeated. Ayn Rand sweep. Wow, Ken, that's crazy, dog.

That shit's nuts. Also, by the way, speaks to Elizabeth and knows she's from a different dimension. He knew the whole time. oh man incredible that's what yeah yeah you have to

you have to kind of realize when you made something good and like this is after the fact too so again if you're going to do the Daisy Fitzfroy recon retcon you know people are upset so you already know how they feel about the current thing and like you should take that

and use that as a reason to put the things you made that were good in a glass box and never let them be touched that is so nuts man wow it's highly crazy it's it's super nuts I I also and this is this is important

Barry let's see part two super long like really really long okay and as I described earlier stealth sections and poor game play so yeah like it just It fucking, um, it really was people going, wow, look, it's the rapture textures.

Absolutely. That's it. That's all. Okay. 100%. Okay. So if I remember correctly, I remember hearing that like Minerva's Den was cool, but has- Minerva's Den is supposedly the best Bioshock thing to ever exist.

Okay. Okay. And for realsies. This is from people who liked Bioshock 2, which is a good game. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Wow. Okay.

And it's also, and, um, its existence is, uh, mutually exclusive with burial at sea. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Barry L.C. and Bioshock, too, cannot coexist. They directly contradict each other in major ways. Well, like, Mnervis Dan specifically. Minerva's Dan is just, like, right after, it's like a side story. It's not connected to anything. Okay.

It's its own little narrative in Vioshockland. On the plus side, Elizabeth's new outfit is really quite attractive. And so, like, I'll be really honest. This is kind of unlike me. Watching Elizabeth run around in that first part carried it a little bit. Like a little bit. Yeah. But then you play as her in the second one.

Yeah. And you never can see her again. Horribly, horribly evil, but pretty hot. So morally gray. Okay. Interesting. Yeah, just ridiculous. Just absolute nonsense.

I mean, you can't say that they never swung for the fences, right? Like, they really just fucking went for it. And then retroactively went back and like went for it on all their previous things as well. Yeah, so Boschok and Infinite's development was a mess and so was the

development of these and these are all Ken Levine going no actually to like a Reddit post basically that's what it feels like and then as soon as Barry Old C shipped

the entire studio disintegrated and Ken left the company. The way you describe yeah like the way you're describing those events unfolding it does read like a lost season finale

trying to outpace everyone on on Reddit figuring out what the story is about and just and swerving and swerving and swerving and then but then wouldn't it be crazy if but then wouldn't it be crazy if you know uh okay all right wow um I don't that's what's up well I was gonna say like what is this this now with with that I go okay well now I can see why the series was dead for so long oh yeah they tore he torched it on the way out the door. Like, it's, it's, where's it, where's there to fucking go? Because you had an, you had an infinite, multiversal God decide the single most important thing that could ever happen across

all of time is making Bioshock one happen. So what could you, what could you do in the story so that that would be as important as, as, as the fucking that. Also, people are saying to space, uh, of note is that Citadel Station from Sissom Shock was supposed to be one of the lighthouses in the ending but they I don't for whatever reason they could not do that which is great because it leaves system shock for fucking untouched the tentacle cannot reach um yeah so bioshock four basically is facing the same thing that mass effect four is facing right is like what the fuck do we fucking do what do you've you've you've fucking you've ruined everything behind you can go geographically we went everywhere you could do it to mention and time

I mean fucked it all up all over the place there always is the very bold strong narrative yeah fuck all that shit ignore that

that's what they should do there's always that every story has the opportunity to go yeah no never mind actually yep that's exactly what they should do

hey I would love to continue this but I have to use the restroom if you're B that's some dog shit yeah it's dog shit it's terrible you know it's not dog shit. I played some baby

steps. Oh yeah. That's the game where the guy that kind of looks like me, body type-wise, start stepping around and falling down on things. Bennett Fadi how to teaches you how to walk. So despite the fact that I crashed out really bad over Bioshock Infinite Burial

and C, baby steps is the most frustrated and pissed off I've ever been on camera ever. Nice. Like fuming. Like silently fuming and like barely managing to keep my show going for hours just encapsulated with like the most frustration ever sick okay yeah yep so we're dialing up the exact same genre yep absolutely let's see you know fattie

appears as a character in this game who is really annoying um and um Bennett can't keep his shit straight during his lines so like you can actually hear him like failing his own takes okay at the dialogue that he wrote for himself and then putting that take in anyway. It's really funny. It's really fucking funny. Is he in the Diogenes outfit with the pot and the... No, he's just some weird guy. Okay.

Yeah, it's actually super great. Like, the controls are god awful, but you get really, really, really good at them. You get really good at them stepping controls. Well, like, should I... If I start this when... punch girl is trying to learn how to walk. Can I erase her?

There's transferable skills. There's transferable skills. Yeah, okay, okay. You'll get a little bit of empathy. Hmm. You, you, uh, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you climb up a mountain and on your way up the mountain, there's tons of little side quest things that appear in front of you, like a cup you can't reach or, you know, a little, little funny hat on top of a thing.

And, uh, getting those items is about a million times harder than, uh, actually progressing in the game, which led to me struggling for like an hour and 15 minutes to climb like a single rock before eventually giving up and then having a tantrum for multiple hours. Interesting. Great game. The only thing I've heard is that, yeah, no, I heard it's fun, heard it's hard, and I heard that the crown is worth it. I don't know what that means.

I don't know what it means either, but there we go. Cool game. Very good. I also played a very high amount of Silent Hill F last night. Yes. Teleporting and trick stepping behind monsters and... You know, it's funny. That's literally what I wanted to start to talk about first.

Hinako Silent Hill has the longest range dash for evasion of any character i can think of all life frames it's like it's like eight feet like it's absolutely insane sick how far she can move with it okay um she also has like a perfect timing she has like a just frame on her dad on her dodge hmm um and she has a peri mechanic now does this imply the the existence of like monsters that can keep up with this shit though right yes yes it does It absolutely does. Okay, okay. It is a Silent Hill game that takes place in the 1960s in Japan, rural Japan,

which is very weird for a series based entirely on like spooky Americana. But rural Japanese villages in the mountains are foggy and misty as shit and also fucking cursed. The fog is spreading. Wandering around town in the fog, fighting monsters, scraping for resources. having totally inscrutable conversations with characters. Did you... It's a side of the hell game. Was there a Japanese word for gyromancy?

Oh, yes. God damn it. Not exactly, but there's basically a lot of the game's plot revolves around the local worship of the O'inari god, the Fox god. Okay. And there's a lot of subtexts going on between a lot of the teenage characters that's really interesting. as to like teenage drama stuff that is like manifesting a little more strongly um one of the most interesting things i have ever seen in a game ever is the untrustworthy helper the

the game is screaming at you is untrustworthy so very early on within like an hour you run into a very handsome magical foxman, right? Who is like, hey, I'll help you. You got to help me. We've got to do magic stuff to protect you from the demons. You are constantly getting ghosts scribbling all over the walls. Don't trust the fox. Do not trust him.

And then you get the achievements for beating the levels that is stuff like the fox guarding the chicken coop. Okay. And it's like outrageously obvious. he is nefarious to everyone but Hinako, the main character. Did she try saying moshi, moshi? No. Okay.

Well, that's her problem then. And the storyline, so at, so Sihil F, the F stands for feminism. Uh-huh. Like literally. Um, and the story is about like a teenage girl in like 1960s in Japan. in like a patriarchal like village society where like she used to hang out with her sister all the time but then her sister got married and she's hanging out with her girlfriends and like there's internalizing drama about a boy and that is like manifesting out through the lens of silent hill right a lot of the a huge proportion of the enemies are like women turned into like sacks of meat like that kind of thing okay and so when you run into this foxman who is this white-haired older charismatic handsome helpful dude you're like don't trust that guy don't trust that handsome older man who's like here to help you like straight up

don't that dude's bad news uh i guess um i'm i'm expecting that it's called f in the sense that it's going to be multiple things like five and it's obvious it's the musical fortay forte exactly it's feminism it's uh you know et cetera um fox yes it's five yes also stands for fox um he's literally a white fox like like he's literally morally gray he's actually literally gray and morally gray um the game also has an extraordinarily strange structure in terms of new game plus so it's silent hill so there will be like a UFO ending and there will be you know the mean ending or the good ending or whatever right all fox endings are linked to new game plus beating the game the first time will only

reward you with one ending which is the ending okay and then new game plus is a different version of the game that has a different story and different boss fights and different mechanics. I like that. That's fine. That's good. That's good. That's the one that it's like, well, what if things were different? Yeah. I appreciate that. I appreciate the

the zero escape version of endings as opposed to did you stare at the photo in your inventory long enough. Yeah. So like Play-through one is this is the game. This is how it happened. And Play-through 2 is, okay, did you stare at the photo? Did you

find all the UFO pieces or did you kill as many enemies as you could, you know, whatever the conditions are? I also decided to play it on. So after doing baby steps, I decided fucking I'm going to play a Silent Hill F on hard because I know how to fucking play a Silent Hill game. Yo, dude. Okay, so you know

how I said that she has like a stronger dash than the Bloodbourne Hunter? Mm-hmm. Well, hard mode on that game demands it. Um, the boss fights in Silent Hill F on hard mode are dark souls level boss fights. Okay. Like they, like there are one that I encountered that I fought for a little while. Like, all right, I'm just going to run away because there's a character yelling at you.

Hey, just run through the window. And it took me a minute to be like, no, no, the game actually wants me to fucking fight this guy and beat this guy. It's a real fight. This is not a scripted loss. This is not a runaway. This is like, no, fight your fucking ass off. What's your inventory looking like? Your inventory is a shit ton of health items.

Just a crazy amount of different types of health items. You've got health items that heal you. You have health items that heal you big. You have health items that lock your stamina in place. You have health items that restore sanity. You have health items that prevent sanity loss, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And you also have a collection of pipes and knives that are, are breakable.

They will lose their durability and break. Okay. There should not be guns as a thing here. That would not make sense. Yeah. Okay. And enemies do a shit ton of damage. And so you have like tons and tons of these health items. And I'm like, I don't really care about these health items. A lot of them are stuff like maxes out your sanity and then prevents sanity loss.

But I'm not really losing any sanity. So the game allows you to sacrifice. any consumables you don't want to the save point and it will give you points you can cash in on upgrading your character instead whoa okay upgrading what exactly uh so upgrading health stamina and sanity bar okay and then the final upgrade is that uh the cost like a million is you can you can cash in enough faith that you can get an extra accessory slot for your character and And accessories are longer stamina bar, lower durability use on attacks, uh, enemy line of sight down.

So the extra accessory one is crazy strong, but instead of like 500 faith to upgrade, it's like 1,500. So they know that it's by far the best one. So you're not picking up pouches or body armor like as, okay. No, you're picking up consumable health items of various types and you are picking up, um, you know, pipes and knives that will break on enemies.

It's really cool. It's also very different, obviously, because most of his differences are because it's in Japan. There's like a weird thing going on where there's like, you know,

you'll get into a cutscene and like this is a Silent Hill one or two track, right? Like style. Like you could have just pulled this right off the Silent Hill one or two album,

except for the Japanese instrumentation. okay like a shami a shamanese instruments on instead of a guitar they'll have like school kids singing and you're like this is literally a silent hill two track in style except that there's like a shamisen in the background nice nice nice because japan yeah cool cool uh i will i will circle back with that more later uh it's cool i really like it uh the other world in that game is not a um uh chain length you know fire and brimstone why the fuck would it be yeah it is an infinite uh temple just uh like a like a hell yeah hell yeah that just goes on forever sick yeah uh really really quite quite interesting yeah why would there be any western influence on the horror aspect aspects of this you know what the

weirdest thing is there's like a there's a single sound that i've not heard in silent hill f that i am baffled because its expression of fear is from a Japanese perspective. I have not heard an air raid siren. Oh, yeah. Like the single sound that I would expect

to hear the most. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Haven't heard even once. I feel like they are saving it. That's a powerful one. Yeah. Also, I have a sneaking suspicion that the game will

feature only the most tangential link to anything in the main line series at all. As it should be. I suspect what is going to happen is that the herbal medicine

that is in the red pills that you are taking turns out to be exported to the West as a glauphalitis or a glaffatis the anti-demon red juice sure sure yeah you know what

and the FBI brought it there in the pen and let's just fucking let's just did this in Bioshock like we don't need this conversation things don't have to be connected that's fine okay yeah so far so good great cool

the only other thing I did this week is I played a Much 2XCO. Yeah. That game's great. Yeah. Yeah.

I can jump in there. The matchmaking is so fucking fast. Even in a really small closed beta environment, matchmaking is instantaneous. Jumped on ranked and had a good time with that. How'd your placements go? I got to Grandmaster. Okay. I lost all of my placements and still placed in Emerald

the top of Emerald. Okay. Which says to me that they are definitely using your non-ranked MMR as like a baseline. I always wonder if it's also looking at

like what you're doing in game. You know? It's like are you using all the mechanics? Are you, you know, because there's a part of me that like, um, yeah, because I feel like,

uh, uh, six did a bit of that too as well. It's like, are you doing some of the more, the full system, you know, are you using stuff?

You're doing fancy shit? Then, okay, this shows that you kind of know this, and then they're going to place you there a little bit. Yeah. It was, no, I got, I got a bunch of good matches out of ranked, and I would say that most of the fights I had were competitive. And the ones that weren't like, you know, you'd do the set and then go back to, I'd say, like, they were fairly minimal. the one thing about the ranked that I will say that they should probably fix because I saw people kind of describing it as like the return

of Guilty Gear Strive towers but that's only aesthetic right no yeah it doesn't actually work that way at all you're just being pooled into lobbies but if somebody's not in your lobby you just make with them anyway so you're looking so you play ranked into XCO and then it drops you in a room and you see other people in that room like fighting each other so if you don't really, if you're not paying attention to the system, you might go, oh, I'm in a room like a

guilty gear floor. But when you hit queue up, it's queuing you up with everybody on all servers. So you're not actually, it doesn't matter what room you're in. You know, you're fighting ghosts at most of those cabinets. So that you feel like you're in a cool lobby all the time. Yes. And you can still walk up to people and watch their play and see what's going on if you want to. The only thing I'd say is like when you do rank out of a room, Um, so like my initial placement was, uh, diamond. And then, you know, after certain after streaking, you kind of like, accelerate your, your advancement. Um, it asks you, hey, we can, we found a better lobby for better matches. Would you like to go there now or

stay here? Yeah. And then you go there and then you lose a couple of matches and they kick you right the fuck back to the lobby you were just in. But, or, okay, so I, I always chose to just go and, and go through but I'm just imagining like if you go now I want to stay here does that mean

you can kind of like farm on a lower floor? I don't think it makes any difference at all. I don't think it makes any difference at all. Okay. Okay. Because I'm kind of that's the part of it. I think it's just so if you don't want to do ranked

you can do player matches with people in that lobby. Okay. There'll be your appropriate level. But like ranked takes like one second to get a match. So yeah it's true. Even if you're not in that room ghosts are still showing up

to fight you from wherever you're at. So, yeah, it shouldn't actually matter whether you leave the room or not. Do you have the thing from 2XCO from this morning as part of news? I do, I do. All right, we'll just talk about that then. Yeah.

But, no, otherwise, though, I think that, yeah, having a lot of fun with that. And it's very cool to see there is stuff that people are able to do as to two plate, two people like duos that single players can't do you know just can't do them yeah there's there's certain kinds of combos and certain tech you know and and um one of the ones for example is uh like vi

has a charged up punch and when you're two people your partner can jump in you can tag to them and um if the first person who was on screen was vi player one can start charging up her punch and player two can take over continue fighting and then you can keep you can keep the charge going while she's on screen and then let it go. Depending on your personal dexterity, you can do a little bit of that with one player, but you can do way fancier stuff with two. So you can do what the way you have to do it with one person if you're playing is basically if you choose like freestyle, for example, you do so you do a move with your first character

that lasts a long time and then you switch to the second character while that first character's move is still going, you know? Um, but here, like, if you, if you start charging a move as what, as if I, you start charging a punch and you switch to the second, it'll release the button because your controls switch over, you know? Um, so yeah, just people have been finding little things like that that are really cool setups and unique. And all of that is, is really fun because I want the feeling of like people playing this as a single or a duo to actually be, different competitively from one person doing it. I have

I've run into a situation with duos that is really fun which is a guy it would be like you and me playing together as a duo where one of us is way like currently you are way stronger than I am. I am running into a lot of duos in which there's

one guy who's like probably the top of Grandmaster and his buddy who's in silver and like I am like fighting for my fucking life and then I'm like oh cool time to combo dummy this shit head. Yeah yeah you have

you have one person trying to exactly I've had I've had some fun fights where yeah the team that you fight has somebody who's just a complete training dummy and then the person who jumps in takes one character and beats both of yours you know yeah yes well exactly over tuned

I'm learning about you know how League of Legends players and the chase to be challenger ranked and how important that is You know, because once you get to Grandmaster, then top 500 is challenger category, which is the big deal. But what's kind of wild about this system, and I guess the idea is, I guess we'll let it see, we'll let it go for now and see how it goes. But you can rank in, you can play ranked with a friend and essentially the average level of you and your friend will be where you are targeted to, if not. a little bit above it. I can feel that, dude.

I can feel it. Yeah. It finds the middle of the lower and the high of the two players and it sticks the team there. Right. And then for each win and each loss, they divide the points. So you're not going to, if you're playing with a partner,

you're not going to get as many points. So you can't get carried as easily if you're trying to get carried, right? Like it'll, I guess the idea is like, the amount that your strong friend will carry you up will be mitigated by that friend's inability to 2v1, a real opponent, you know, that is, that's, that's hypothetically, not half as good as you, but is half as good as the difference

between you and the person you're carrying, you know, so it's like, it's, it's, it's like a math thing, you know, but you're like, you're a tenant skill, your friend is a one in skill. you're queuing up together and the game's I'm a five against fives yes so now that I've died now that your friend who's won has died the person who's 10 needs to win

as one character against the five who has all of their stuff and if you do then hey cool you get those points half of them of course and continue onward so it should curve out in such a way where the team climbing should not be so fast that like the

person who's holding you back as an anchor is getting as much of a boost as you are losing your momentum if you are solo. So the other thing that happens the way they're running ranked is that your ranked mode is your ranked level

is your ranked level no matter what character you pick. And I don't have the problem here that I have in Street Fighter because when I play Street Fighter and I jump from, you know, let's say everybody starts a diamond now because I had Bison and Geep and Master.

I don't know how to play fucking guile, dude. Yeah. Right? If I hopped in a guile, like, if they force me to go in a fucking master rank, it would be time for me to die. Yeah. Right? And in 2XCO, like, I've been playing almost exclusively Blitzcrank and a little bit of Lowy.

And it's like, if I wanted to learn Darius, well, I can still have Blitzcrank as 50% of my fucking team. Yeah. Like I'm not like, I'm not like 100% fucked by not knowing what I'm doing. It doesn't work in a tag game or a team game to do the single character rankings because, you know... It would get really complicated. It would get really complicated. It would be the duo that matters, you know? It'd be like, oh, yeah, Blitzkank, Blitzk Alawi is one pair that gives you this ranking.

But Blitz Crank solo is another, you know, like that doesn't really make sense. But, you know, and it is also cool to see, like, yeah, you know, people that are doing, um... juggernaut are like finding tech and I've discovered that um juggernaut is a fuse of extremes yep you better learn to defend or if you if you touch you better kill whatever you touch I found it's actually really helpful for me figuring out like tag fundamentals and that like I don't use push block usually but I play juggernaut blitzcrank so I have now had to learn how to fucking push block there's that when to push block uh I would say that

Juggernaut is probably like Blitzcrank is probably the best character on Juggernaut you know the fact that you can incoming people with a grab mix is ridiculous the fact that

that's out oh they fixed it as of this morning Ah okay so was also Nerf this morning Oh wow I didn't see Okay you got about a 20% decrease on all his specials Interesting, because Yasuo could do it all. Yaso's insane.

So yeah, Blitzcrank for those who are wondering, when you, he has an air grab, like, you know, he can jump and spinning pile driver you out of the air. But when you're playing as a solo juggernaut, he can do a combo that forces a switch from your first character to your second. And the second is forced to jump onto the screen, which means they're forced to be in the air, which means he can be in the air grabbing. you on avoid inescapably effect yeah that was not supposed to be the case that was fixed this morning yeah um no it really is interesting and like um i was uh you know yeah i was talking with men and he was kind of explaining how like basically the shit that you're seeing with blitzcrank is exactly how he plays in league and absolutely 100% yeah and like it just translates right the same way and the steam usage translated character so far it's really impressive huh

Yeah, and I'm kind of like, if you play this character in the other game, you know, like, you're translating the genre over, but you still kind of know- His spirit fills your chest. That's good. That's really good. Um, because I hate the worst, because the worst feeling in the world is when you take a character from Persona 4 Arena and you drop them in a blaze blue cross-tag battle. And it's like you took the same character, but you took moves away. And now it's a shell of what's. they used to be, so you're just like, no, this is a bad version of what I like, you know. The other thing, too, is, like, people have been pointing out that, like, you can see how, okay, Yasuo is a character designed by Marlon Pye, who's a fucking insane Marvel player. What if he could do everything? What are, like, like, love letter, love letter to my style of play, right? And Echo is a, like, a character designed by, like, you know, like, just the mix god.

what if you could do left rights and make everybody cry? Yeah, I know, everybody seems to be like the, this massive, um, like, what if they could do everything everyone in this archetype could ever have done? Like, Jinks has, has traps, multiple different types of projectiles of the jumps, the movement, a dashing low, like, fuck off. But I would say, I would say that like the complexities and love of, like, all of that put into like those three that we just mentioned by contrast a character

like Darius is like I don't know he does a DEP shut up Darius is this game's where you He makes you bleed you know Brom needs work really bad Brom's shit Brahms struggling Brom is struggling yes He doesn't have enough going on

He needs like Yeah I don't know but he needs something But yeah no but this was We'll get into some of the announcements A little bit later in the actual news But in terms of just like this update That was yeah good stuff um you know pretty promising i uh you well okay we'll talk about some of those cosmetics

but like you know the fun part about cosmetics and them being the primary focus of your your money is if the cosmetics are ugly and not something you want to spend your cash on you saved a dollar you simply need to you can simply save and put that cash towards stages and other content you know so great if there's no if there's no incentive for me to go buy one of these things then uh it's even easier to focus in on what i want to put my put my fight bucks towards um anyway well yeah we'll get into a bit more there later um i will tag in because i did get a little more silk song time in as well all right how's silk and or song so uh i guess in terms of placement i have made it to the

the last judge. Okay. That's the runback that caused all the discourse, by the way. Oh, that area? Yeah. Those, those worms used to do two pips of damage. Oh. I thought the area, because I, that's so interesting.

I thought the runback area that you were hinting at was the uncharted space. that is with the fucking with the trap bench okay so with describe it slightly more thoroughly there's a forest area

above the fire area and in it there's a bunch of red ants oh no no no no okay so there's so basically you are currently working under there

there are three discourses about song song difficulty Discourse one is why is Hunter's March with the Ants so much harder than everything else around it? Okay, so that's, okay, so first off, yeah, Hunter's March where you, because one, it's designed, it's interesting, right? Because it's designed where you're not going to get that map, like right off the bat, like the others. You're not going to hear the song, Be-da-o, you're not going to hear the humming for a while, and you're going to get through these enemies, which are, you know, they've got a complex move set, so they're full enemies. you've got to avoid all the spikes, etc. And

the first hint of a progress save you can get at is there's either outside the zone or deep in you get that fucking trap bench. So that's Discourse 1. Discourse 2 is I can't beat the last judge. Why is this runback so hard?

And Discourse 3 is Discourse 3 is why is Savage Beasts fly so fucked up. And then Discourse 4 would be like, you motherfuckers, you cannot possibly, you cannot be fucking serious with this runback nonsense. Okay. So because I have been the moment, okay, so because I've discovered invisible walls and and things to break, I have been compulsively slashing at things.

So I haven't been, I found a bunch of those that I feel are like, okay, well, even more reason to go nuts. So this is now a running through Dark Souls swinging at every wall type situation. Oh, absolutely. you know the i will say that like what i love about the church of the beast is besides the name temple of the beast rather um is like you have these single pattern simple bosses which hollow night is famous for and here you get one that has like little swerves on you you know so like you're you're going toto total lead you to the wall and if you don't have him crash into the wall

no you don't and you're getting little fakeouts on their animation pattern you know that turn back around on you and you can still position yourself to kind of exploit the AI you know more or less but I do I do like the the gimmick there of like it's if you don't kite successfully it's trickier and then also there will be moments where it'll get a little bit off the ground so that you're not at jump height so you can't just clear that from the ground you can't have to get off the wall and if you go pogo and if you don't deal with the ads more ads are coming you know so it's like okay yeah just those little parts to make this make this a little you're talking about one or two um i mean one i guess you know okay because because like one is like oh yeah

yeah yeah i see what's going on yeah two is like you are sick freaks interesting for putting this into the game the other thing i'm seeing uh at this point to is that yeah the waves of enemies together um pretty manageable but every once in a while it's a certain combination that is like oh it really shows off the enemy designs where you're like oh man I can handle all these mother oh no that those two enemy types together oh where do I go we're safe these two together is yeah there's a couple of those who are like man that's annoying right um and there's even little things where it's like exploitable simple video gamey like enemy patterns with just a little more hesitation and like like swoop to them can be more annoying

like those basic little birds they just wait a little bit longer than a regular enemy does and you're like you're like you're waiting for their pattern and stuff and you're like ah could you just like you're getting you're your own worst enemy against a lot of enemies that are like testing your impatience, you know, especially ones that have a defensive moment where they're kind of like, I'm going to wait for you now. You're approaching me, but I'm backing up. So now what? You know, and you're like, ah, get over here, you asshole. Um, but uh, the, the overall steady and smooth progression, um, I will say that now that I've encountered, um, I guess, what are they called seals?

the weapons, essentially. Crests, crests. Right. So, so far, I've gotten the crest of the hunter, the reaper, the wanderer, and the beast. Those are the four in act one. Okay. It's been very easy for me to not spend my crest unlocking pouch things because I, there's a winner for me. yeah which one is it the fucking uh the reaper is the is just the winner for me it has a really good pogo and if you like silk skills yeah you get to use them a lot so the default i had that has the pogo that is just not quite what i want if it was a full dive kick i'd love it but it's short and that makes me uh annoyed the um wanderer is very familiar as it ought to be nothing wrong That's the highest DPS because of the swing speed, but the range is terrible.

Yeah. And I just played Hollow Knight, so, you know, that's fine. I'm not, I'm not looking for that. Also, the mix of shit you carry with it is not what I want either. And Beast, I see the trade-offs. I see it. But I hate the kit. I hate it.

I hate the kit. The Pogo is the worst in the game by far. Yep. Hate that kit. I love the idea of Beast, but boy, does that move set not do it for me at all? And I think that the ability to like go crazy on healing in rage mode is detrimented by the fact that I'm going to take more damage from this shittier move set. So there is a hidden interaction in Silk Song with the memory lockets that was not clear to me. until really late

in the game. Have you... You got the needle in, right? You've got the last judge? Needle in, is that the A-O-E? The musical instrument. Yes, yes. Okay.

Okay, so once you have the needle in, you can go to a bunch of places that were locked off beforehand, And one of those has something you should probably go and fucking get. Okay. Because it will allow you to find a reason to use those memory lockets even if you don't care about the fucking things you're using. Okay. Because like I just, I'd pick up one of these, you know, one of these weapons and go, nope.

And that's the end of that. So what I ended up doing is that I ended up being like, I really don't like Reaper. So I didn't put any in a Reaper. Interesting. I cashed in on Hunter and, um, and wanderer. Mm-hmm. And then I just like, well, I'm just going to stockpile memory lockets until I get the next one.

And then I'll be able to cash it all the way in. And that's what I ended up doing. Okay. Um, what makes, so the reason why I love Reaper the most, it's not the ability. Um, it's the sure you can. Um, the sure you can, the running slash is been my, go to for fighting bosses. Oh yeah, that's pretty good, yeah. And you get, you get to sure you can and then pogo afterwards, right? Which is phenomenally strong. It's also got a

really big, fat pogo. Yeah, yeah. It has a little delay on it, so it's not hollow night timing. But I fucking, like, there's so many bosses that I make short work of by doing sure you can into slash, you know? I spent a lot of time with all of them, except for Beast, because fuck Beast. They're all really good. Even Beast. Beast is really good. I just don't want to actually use it.

Yeah. No. Their trade-offs are really excellent. And I'm also somebody who in Hollow Night, my build involved using charms that I use the charm that says you don't move when you get when you slash things. No pushback. I hate moving. Right.

So Beast is shoved is moving me around. And I'm like, oh, you want me to like learn the precise footseys of like the slatsy's of like the slashing is one thing, the charge slash is another, but that pogo, fuck that forward moving roll bullshit. Terrible, awful, right? Um, which character? All, all of the pogos you can get

going forward are all really good. Okay. Okay. Because I, I, I, the moment I saw that, it just killed the whole thing for me. Um, and, yeah, you know, and then, and then it's interesting to get these like, these, uh, riskier incentives, right? So I went and I picked up the, um, uh,

the double heel, you know, double time, but if you want to heal big, okay, you're right now, that extra second you're spending could get you killed, but you get- Depends. If you're doing it in the upper right corner where the boss can't hit you at all, that's entirely different. But you're only getting that one extra pip out of it right now or whatever your cap is. So, you know, it's almost like, is it really worth the benefit? Um, but that's, that's been good. Um, um, Yeah, I also, I guess it's interesting how the like corpse running and attempts are balanced against each other in the sense that you can always make your run back and you can always go try to fight, you know, the thing directly. And if you're making use of your tools, however, you're expending a resource that requires you to go explore more to rebuild it, right? So it's, it's, there's corpse running, but there's a limit that eventually asks you or incentivizes you to either, A, learn how to do it without tools or B, continue exploring as a, as a soft like, hey, if you've, if you've gotten all of your chips to zero, maybe go build them back up elsewhere by somewhere else.

Go somewhere else, right? And I'm like, oh, that's a nice design nudge. That's subtle. so I was talking to hitchhiker about how annoying we both found it that you could run down to zero tool currency and we wish that it would just regenerate yeah but we ran into the issue is that like some of the tools you can use are like massively broken okay they're so fucked so yeah so strong so as soon as I saw that limit, the first thing I start, I thought was, show me the tool that costs 200, right? To use it. Show me the tool.

It's not tools that cost 200. It's tools that you can only use like five times. Okay. Before your stock is at zero. Yeah. So, for example, the trap, the spike trap, right? That I am using the fuck out of that because you're throwing the trap out while the boss's name is on screen.

And it's doing its roar. That's how I broke one of the bosses by causing his music not to play, because I got it to phase two before it activated his music. The caltrips are wonderful. But the idea that, but what's interesting in how they're balanced, again, is not only is it using tools, but you cannot use tools to get silk. So any damage used off of tools is not going to give you healing back. So sit back in zone if you want for pussy, but you ain't get it. get any benefits for it you know um boomerang all day enjoy that fucking boomerang uh that thing's good like all the way to the end of the game the boomerang i was really surprised right it's really really really

I because I had I had um I had the uh yeah the trap and the kunai you know um and then I I mean actually I found the triple kunai before the single kunai. Oh weird yeah very weird I was I was like I picked up the single kunai and I was like that's a straight upgrade that is a straight Yeah, I'm like, why would I ever use this? I already have the triple, you know, because I did the bird area first. And then I went back and did the puzzle. But the, yeah, and then, you know, there's the speed juice. And I was like, yeah, I don't want that as much as I want the ability to make the thing on the other side of the screen die from time to time.

So to every single thing that you have mentioned, there is a different thing you can combine with it that makes it like way better. okay okay well like the speed juice is pretty good on its own but there's another tool you can use with it that makes it like well ho ho ho ho oh okay so i didn't use it yet but like i did um just get um the poison so i used i used the poison for 95% of the game okay i just just got it i haven't tried it out yet but uh it's that any tool that hits will cause three ticks of damage that is like three nail hits. Over time? Yeah, it goes, and then it's gone. And then it's gone. And then you reapply it.

Okay, okay, it's not extended dots, but it's like, it's just a little bit extra. That's great. That's great. Someone in the chat asks if you combine poison with flea juice, does it make your attacks poison? No, but you can combine it with something else that will make your attack.

Oh, yeah, okay. Like, I don't know. If you put, like, Hey, Willie, say you put down the tax and the tax all do poison, that means you're going to be doing tack damage and then you're going to be doing poison damage per tick for as long as they get hit

by the tacks. Yes. Yeah. So yeah, it's crazy. It's insanely strong. It's one of the best of the blue tools in the game. It's incredible. It sounded pretty phenomenal. And also, shoutouts to breakable equipment

that heals at a bench. Right? I'm like, oh, anytime you play a game where it's like, this will break. And it's either gone forever or you have to go find this one fucker deep in the map to repair it. Like, yeah, I'm just never going to use that. Like, you know, and the point I left off at in Holo Night actually was taking the breakable charms and making them permanent. I was like, I'm, this is too much money.

15,000 is too much. I'm just not going to go. They're so strong. They're great. They're great. But you need me to grind for way to. much money um and at a certain point if i have to because like if i have to go find a farm spot and then do you know like a while of insanity shit do a bunch of runs to farm i'm like i want

to play come on don't make me do this you know so anyway um the the the whole uh the whole bit with like the fact that you sit back down at that bench like i'm like love that i'll sacrifice the slot for that you know um yeah and then of course there's there's there was one area so in order to get um that one um a thing that cost like 880 um in beads um it was like oh well there's a bench right here and a couple runs of these of this in one area like okay it there i did do a bit of farming but it was like less than 10 minutes of it you know so there's gonna be there's going to be a point in that game where the

fucking economy just explodes. Interesting. And you're going to be like everything costs like a thousand. This is fucking ridiculous. And then you're going to find the most outrageous grinding spot you've ever found in any game.

Like you cannot avoid it. Everybody runs into it. And you're going to go, hmm. Okay. And everybody I know ended up maxing out on items of rosaries in their

inventory by cashing them all in okay um so i'm curious something i'm curious about like because the game is you know so you you never you sometimes you get a description on something but you don't quite know what the deal is is walking around with dice going to make things really good uh it makes things slightly good a slightly good okay it's a 13 14 percent chance of not taking damage whoa okay that's i didn't Okay, that's pretty sick. It also improves the critical hit rate of the Wanderers thing by 0.2%. Okay. So there we go.

I'm like totally fucking useless. Because the dice is good. Luck is a word in every game that can mean a million things, you know? And it can mean a million things and it can mean a million percentage values as well. So you just never know what that's going to be. Yeah. So the dice is the best yellow because it's the only yellow that makes you fit. physically stronger.

The, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, statistically. 13% more health. Which, it's the only, it's, it's, it's the best yellow. For every time it doesn't, um, reduce the chances increase. Statistically over time, it will give you 13% more health. Okay. Is it, is it true, is it a true random or is there a, yeah, okay. Who the fuck knows. Interesting. Interesting. Okay. Um, I, yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, you know i went from because i'm looking at the blues and i was like there is nothing here i even

want to waste a second slot on dude i got so frustrated at the end of the game because i had like i had like i had you know everything i had absolutely everything and i'm looking at the list i'm like man i wish i could just make a fucking build that was like fucking six blues and zero yellows like blues are so much better than yellows i went from having so i went like the blue things in I guess, I guess, assuming that the gate I'm at is pretty much Act 1 Um, it is. Yeah.

So it feels that way because it feels like it's the, you know, like you've, I've done the areas and mapped out. Oh no, you've missed a shit ton of stuff you could do right now. Oh, sick. Okay. Well. Because there's, there's multiple ways into Act 1, into Act 2. Interesting.

Okay. Well, um, from, for what, from what it feels like with this little container of, of, you know, a couple areas here. Um, the, I had no. interesting blues. I just had whatever the fuck

the first one was. It was like, it was like, there was like Pips. It's like the magma one and the don't take damage when you're healing one and there, no, no, I see I got, no, I had, I had like, um, you get extra green silk for damage you take. Um, it was useless. It was so bad. I was

like, I was like, fuck blue. I don't, I have no need for blue. There's the one thing I cared about on it and then now I'm like oh my God, all I, all the blues. I can't juggle how many blues I want, you know. So that's cool. I wish that you could. So am I correct in that, like, in Hollow Night, you could charge and you could do a charge

slash in any direction? I believe you could, right? I can't remember. I think you, I might be misremembering, but I think you could charge and release in any direction. No? Was that right? Am I misremembering that?

You might be insane. Okay. Okay. It's possible. Because I certainly do wish, it would be nice if you could do a charge slash pogo, you know, or a charged up or whatever the case is. There is a crest that will allow you to do a charge slash pogo.

Okay, that was an upgrade. There was an upgrade. Okay, okay, okay. Kind of. Right. And then, of course, yes, the other thing is I use. to use charges, I used to use charms that were like, speed up that fucking charge, speed up that process. And that's what I- That charm exists. I can't wait because holy fuck, I'm feeling the

slowness of this. Get ready to fucking wait. Because I'll tell you this. Look at my eyes. Get ready to wait on that one. On that one specifically, get the fuck ready. So like, like, there's a deep, deep-rooted timing inside of my heart and soul. And that is, if I hold a button down and it takes longer than the sound of the Mega Man X-Buster charging in my head? I don't want it. I don't want it at all. It's more annoying to me

if it takes longer than the I did not use text very often. That is the timing. It needs to be the X-Buster or it can fuck out of my life. And it's and like It's, yeah, when you're using charge attacks against bosses and you're choosing between charging or another versatile option, it sucks when you're like, oh, fuck, I was too busy trying to get my charge here.

I didn't properly heal. I didn't properly get the tool out, et cetera. And everything about Holo Night, where that led to me putting healing on R1, like, I'm still having that problem now because I was like, ah, shit, I wanted to put a caltrop out. And instead, I, I, you know, you have to swap one or the other, right? So you can choose to basically keep a charge and then cancel it to a heel or keep a charge and cancel to a tool. But you got to pick which way you want. By default, I didn't like it. Yeah.

Learning the patterns and just taking pick pot shots, single shots off over time is, you know, a pretty reliable way. Would you like me to point you to the zone where you can get the game's most important upgrade that is completely hidden from you entirely that you could go through the entire game and miss out on? and it would be a massive, massive problem if you missed out that you can get right now. Just the zone. When you preface it like that, then yeah. Yeah, go back to bone bottom. Okay.

Okay. And the moscretto. Okay. Jesus. Um, yeah. What were some of the other things? Am I wrong chat, live chat? Am I wrong?

Fair enough. Fair enough. um so there was yeah there was that with the move set um oh uh that that fight that fight against um the the uh the worm the the weaver was pretty sick i enjoyed the widow yeah enjoyed that fucking rules that was really really fun to like to get to the final phase when it's all escalating and the music is popping and you're like this is any time of phase i love them there's a great moment with the bosses in this and i'm gonna in a good souls game too where when phase when the final phase you go get the fuck out of here that's impossible right you're like no way

that's what is happening that's too much and then you're and then like two tries later you're like oh wait i see it i see it i see it yeah yeah yeah the fact you're like oh it's not chaos actually it's still a pattern it's just a really loud pattern it's a loud long pattern that requires your eyes to look for the lines and listen for the sounds and look for the cues and look for her animation is she starting the dash up while the white lines are appearing while the bounces did you count the bounces when i beat when i beat like the final boss when i beat widow when i beat last judge it took me a while but the times that i did it i'm like i'm going to beat this motherfucker's ass in yeah you're Yeah. And I'm fucking Neo out here just dodging all of their fucking bullshit. And knowing that I'm like, okay, my goal is to not be there when the problem is there. However, if I happen to fuck up and be there and the problem is suddenly here, quickly try to slash parry that. You know?

Or the, the, uh, within a couple frames of your Pogo, you are invincible. And, uh, the first like five or six. frames of your roll in the air you're invincible. So if you Pogo, hit, and then roll as soon as the hit happens, you can roll through enemies. I-frames. Oh shit. Okay. It's tight, though.

It is very tight. You need to be moving through them. There's eye frames on the Pogo. Wow. It's very small. It's just to make sure that the Pogo doesn't keep you from launching into the contact damage on a successful hit. Okay. So,

It's not the startup, but the active. It's after the hit. Okay. Because if you pogo while the boss is moving, the boss can move into you. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. So they don't want you to get hit while on the hit. That's fucking stupid. While you're inside of them.

It's very small. It's like two frames. It's really minor. Interesting. Okay. Um, there was another boss there, too, that had a really chaotic second phase. what the fuck was it it was a good one

shit I don't remember anyway yeah no I will say too as well that I'm enjoying the pacing of this a lot more than Hollow Night

I'm enjoying the you will so I mean so far you know like again it's like the hours are getting put in but I yeah

I just, it's a, it's a rewarding sense of like, okay, do I want to go back and, you know, like scrape this area now that I have a wall climb or do I want to go spend the money on this upgrade over here, go back and shop over there. Like, there's always a good sense of like, you know, exploring the map out in a, in a, in a, um, a balanced way that I'm feeling as I'm going through it, you know? How, uh, you feel like you're about halfway through? Uh, well, I mean, after the conversations we've been having.

So the issue I had, I felt like I was halfway through the whole game. Yeah. Okay. It was only at like the 99% mark where I was like, oh, no, I'm about to do it. I'm about to be done. Okay. So without the conversations we were having, I wouldn't feel that way simply because I would be sinking my expectations to the amount of fights with lace that I

have. Right? So I am, I am currently waiting for, if I hit, if I hit Lace 2, then I go, okay, well, that means two thirds, right? That doesn't mean that. No, but it should. It could. It ought, it ought to, right? It could not mean that. Yeah, it could not mean that. Yeah, it could not mean that, but, you know, if, if you, if you, if you do that and Beowulf is lying on the floor, on the floor afterwards, you know what I mean? Then, like, you know, it's like, yeah, I kind of, I'm kind of, uh, putting my rival battles as, as your, your spacers, but, but. That's a reasonable way to, to break that down.

Mm-hmm. A nice, a nice fight for every act would be good. That would be appropriate. Yeah. Um, but no, no, so far, it's, it's, it's, yeah, it's absolutely phenomenal. with that stuff and I just do yeah I do wish that like these things like uh those those aspects that I don't want to use it it sucks that it's such a big part of the game that I'm just going to completely ignore um and you know I guess it backs you mean the crests

the crests excuse me yeah I got lucky I liked six of the set sorry I liked five of the seven okay and there were three that I really liked there's one that is straight up better there's one that's broken like fucked up that it got into the game this way but it's kind of awesome that it is

I stopped using it I started to use it and it was like oh I want to play the game I'm gonna stop using this fucking thing I guess you know when you think of Souls weapons right you're like

there's some if you're going you know you whatever it is you can push towards like um the best Dex weapon or the best strength weapon or

you know whatever the case is by the by the end you're swinging the best decks up and around or the best strength open around and the things you're fighting are just dying and you're seeing that like numeric value increase here with this

like you just got to like you're going to have to rely on that pogo way more often for platforming and other things that are not combat you know for defense platforming is part of combat yes but that but that's kind of what I'm getting at right where I'm like the weak sides of the kit of each crest are way more pronounced than in a souls game where you can just ignore that

move you never use with that you know you can take the kit you need every move you need every move right you can ignore the moves you don't in souls games on the on the weapon that you don't that you're using that are useless but not here you need them all and you need all those angles you know the fact that the the reaper has a over slash and an underslash is already like not ideal for some situations depending on where the enemy is positioned oh i missed enemies that are right next to me because it over it underslashes and i'm like they're above me men yeah yeah exactly you know um but you know that's that's all again it's all it's all in the balance so fun stuff there um that's about it um cool Do you want to thank some sponsors? Let's do it. Then afterwards we got a blitz through news because I feel like I'm going to die. All right.

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Huel. Huel. Huel. Huah, huah. All right. So, yes, we touched on it a little earlier with 2XCO, but they dropped the early access update. We're going from closed beta to early access. Straight up.

So, okay, the bummer about this is I was hoping that the next phase would, would, would, pre-consul ready, but it's not, weirdly. It's not. So console is going to miss out on this first early access phase. So still not done yet. But October 7th, closed beta is ending and early access begins. Basically, that's going to be one last content reset. Everything going after that will keep forever.

Yep. And they introduced, so what are we going to get? We're going to get a battle pass. We're going to get combo trials. We're going to get the cosmetics. I saw a Vi outfit that was like, eh. God, awful. It's the worst Vi outfit in league, and it's the worst Vi outfit here.

So I saw, yeah, basically, apparently in League of Legends, people are like, oh, it's that same one that we've all hated for a long time. God damn it. But with this comes the explanation that there will be five seasons per year, and each, season will come with a new champ so including the one starting on October 7th so October 7th hey guess what it's gonna be fucking Timo it's Timo day yeah um and and then now we have day the game will become good and it just keep just yeah just those goalposts are now attached to your back by the way oh yeah no goalpost one is Blitzcrank goalpost two is Timo Yeah.

There we go. Okay, perfect. Yes. Done and done. My, yeah. I mean, my goalposts were Alawi and Vi, so we're set, you know, Vilari for life. But no, I do see here that if you do some quick maths, what this tells us is five per year.

And you know what? That's fair. That's probably the right number. I would say that five per year is what we would consider a standard in a fighting game. You want to, like, the fact that you had some season passes that came out with four was like, eh, street fighter, you know, that sucks. We hope, you kind of hope it's at least five each time. I think going above that is like always, that's great if you could get six or whatever. But I don't know how many things are able to deliver that.

I think five for a year per each season is reasonable. And four would have felt too small and six would probably be. unreasonable. I think I could imagine, right? And yeah, five seasons in a year means, you know, you're getting, you know, you're getting basically two and a half months for each character, which is a decent turnaround, I'd say. I think that's someone said that this means at the end of 2026 will only have 15. That's not true because Timo's coming out in 2025. So at the end of 2026, there will be 16 characters. And alongside this announcement,

there was also the, which is cool. This is nice. I was kind of wondering what they're going to do with the official stuff. And there's going to be sponsored local tournaments. Community run events are going to have the first impact program, which is okay. That's cool. That's nice. Bonus prize for duos that win the tournaments, which is encouraging people to go and sign up as two,

which is cool. I like that idea. How is the bonus prize fucking double the fucking cash? Uh, no, but... Then, that's wrong then. If you will, depends. Could you win solo?

You know? I don't know. Um, what if you are a team of two, but one, but you're playing juggernaut. What if someone sits there and then just collects the prize? Yeah. You know? I'm helping.

yeah um so that's a i think that's a that's a reasonable start and you know we'll see what happens if because like yeah of course the the thing that every uh we've established with each game as it starts is like okay are you going to do the million dollar you know grand prize what's the situation going to be for that stuff but uh keeping it keeping it uh encouraging on the locals is good um i i i think now more than ever is a time when locals being supported is is extra important because you know to quote giuna who uh had one of the better takes talking about all the recent uh saudi nonsense and bullshit going on with uh fgc stuff and the buyout you can you can go you can go chase the esports bag but uh make sure to support your actual local

community because once that esports bag dries up because the people who are buying it are not invested in the long-term future of the games or community, once that goes away and the fat is over and the cash is no longer something that they're willing to sports wash over, then you're going to only have your local communities left. And if they dried up and are husks of what they used to be, you have nowhere to turn. So now more than ever, it's important to support that shit. That being said, shout-outs to you mad that ran this weekend. I saw Reggie jumped on commentary with Jimmy Bones for a bit there. Seems to be doing all right. Um, so that was what we got from the official announcement.

Uh, then there were some unofficial announcements that occurred. Yeah. Uh, yeah. But this time around, a little more credible, a little more, these are not unplanned. This is a little, this is more, this is not planned. There's a little more, uh, in the traditional sense, a data miner has cracked open the code. and it looks like we've got voice lines for characters that are not in the game yet. Yeah, so Warwick and Caitlin are obvious because they're in Arcane.

So I did not, first of all, I did not know that their dad was a wolfman character from the original base game. I had no idea that was a thing. He's not. That's an original character? No, it's only from Arcane. But there's a Wolfman called Warwick in League of Legends. Yeah, and in League of Legends he's not their dad Oh, the connection is from Arcane

I see, I see, I see, okay, okay But the tailbane Wolfman existed already Yes, okay, right He's a juggler man So Did But Arcane just calls him What should I call it?

What's her dad's name? Vander Vander They just calls Some of the dialogue in that those leaks she's like can i call you vander instead okay but vander is a character that only exists in arcane in arcane did any for any of you guys that knows league were the back electric things or whatever kind of like did that clue you in that there was a connection to the wolfman at all or

is this just like out of nowhere no no it's the fucking wolfman and then arcane was like let's connect these things. What I mean to say is while watching Arcane, did you catch that they were making Vander into a, into, um,

uh, Warwick. Yeah, people predicted it. People predicted it in episode three. Okay. Okay, okay, okay. I predicted it in episode three,

season one. I don't even fucking play league. Gotcha. Okay. So then there's that and then there's a bunch of making fun of Caitlin and her hat. And, and cops and stuff.

it's like okay those are coming uh and then there's the voice lines that are just ripped raw from uh the game that are like from league of legends directly including uh thresh yeah riven yep cassiopia really there is a snake lady voice going so you might be just a fucking way Cassio is going to make it to that fucking game there is that's placeholder for sure the sound effects that were pulled from the data

are Riven Thresh Cassiopia Olaf um Katerina and Rise okay so

I would have told you. Riven? Yeah, no, that, yeah, no, they'd all, yeah, yeah, yeah, rise, yeah, no, yeah, no, yeah. So is Rye's like a kind of blue zombie or what is, like, he's just, I see, I'm, it's like, I see a ghost, undead looking guy with, like, blue aura and he looks like, I can't quite tell what his deal is, but he looks like a, I don't give a shit at him, about a, he's a wizard. Okay, okay.

That's, that's a freak. ribbons a fighting game character though her sword grows right it looks like a sword that's detached in pieces okay uh he's a run terra wizard okay um olaf is a viking that that appears to be a viking man loser picks on that for the list so i hope they get thrown in the trash um thrash i think we were everyone was talking about the whole time um no thrash was thrash would be the the because Thresh provides the box for your fighting game Thresh's big deal is that he puts you in

the box and you can't leave the box or you die. Okay. Is Thresh like a necromancer or like an evil shithead zombie? But his kit is about restricting your movement. Yeah, well he's a he's a hook guy like Blitz. Okay.

But instead of playing top, he plays support. Okay. He's a healer. What you know about this snack lady? What's going on? What's going on? I know.

I don't give a fuck about her at all. What's going on with snack? No. Nothing for the snack, though? No, man. Okay, well. I would have expected you to say, like, Pike. Pikes are right.

Which one's that? Pike's like a thief that swims around and stabs you with fish stuff. Okay. Yeah, there's a design. Sure. Sure. want a you want a fucking winner you put tom kinch in there man t o m t a h m space k e n c h oh yeah oh yeah that's a that's a skull girl's character that guy's in the that guy's in the

background of uh of one of the skull girl stages is ass dude hell yeah that's phenomenal Fiddle 6 needs to be in there I could put out a list for you And I barely play league And I feel like I feel like Even though everyone has different favorites There's like a huge amount of characters

That almost everyone would agree Our absolute slam fucking dunks It's weird They have not talked about a character name set He is a pro wrestler Oh Okay Like

It's fucking strange That he Or Samira Is that my think of it was it. Yeah, Samira, yeah. Oh, buff shirtless man. No, not Samira. The other one. Sets. Sitting on his throne. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Um, yeah. Samira appears to be gun, gun lady. Yeah, it's not. She's Dante. Oh, okay. Yeah. She's literally Dante. I mean, I said before I saw the Lee Sin monk man as well, you know, I think there's some. Fuck Lee Sin.

no no fuck you no martial arts oh no you get martial arts in there but fuck leasing in league he seems to go fuck his ass in league specifically oh okay okay okay pre established established hatred right um no he's just he's just fucking boring and lame a blind monk doing martial arts is i mean i'm i'm interested on that roster he ends up being really really dull okay I'm thinking of Iron Fist in Marvel you know like I think that that shit's dope I'm down

I should put Azear in the fucking game that'd be fucking awesome the sand clones and shit but I would love to see a like a necromancer that like you know has puppet characters that could like

That's Azear! That's the character I just said Yeah okay okay that that would be great Azeer in Viego would be like that That'd be fun. Oh, what's the guy? Yorick? Yeah, Yorick. Ooh, he's cool.

Notably, absent from this leak list is Garen. Right? Garen will never. The only possibility of Garen entering into 2XCO is a costume for Darius. A costume for Darius. Yeah, alt's, alt costumes. Similarly, Nautilus and Blitzcrank have so much overlap that the only way Nautilus is going to get in is as a

costume for Blitz. Okay, so this is my thought, right? How upset would, as a person who doesn't give a fuck, I'm like, that would be, I could see there being like a full skin line and like kit adjustment. So you have an echo fighter in the form of

Garin for Darius, right? But would fans of Garin Luckily, there are no fans of there. So would people that are fans of the original character be upset with them being echo fighters to fit them in there? I think that Garron fans would be unable to complain from within their beige rooms with no

music while eating their untoasted white bread. Because I don't know how many Echo fighters could exist off the main roster, but in terms of scratching the itch of people being satisfied with having one or the other, I, it could be that could be something right um at the same time though like you got to put um reu and can on two different slots on that character select screen and smash right you got to have simon and richter on their own slots right so if you pick darius and then it's like oh garren outfit and color that's probably not the the best way to show people like that are looking for that that character right off the bat but

But are there that many echo fighters that could exist off of these characters? No, there's some people that have like really, really obvious overlap. Mm-hmm. But like a lot of them are very unique. So, okay, I saw a dude that looked like Thresh, but wasn't Thresh. Was it hot Thresh? No. It was a green demon-looking thing.

There's four different characters that could be. You could be talking about Mordecaizer. You could be talking about Calista. Hecaram? Is it Heckerim? Yeah, Hecrum's a centaur. Let me get a better look. Hecrum's a centaur that shoots ghosts at you.

Oh, oh, he's mounted on a, oh, there's four legs there. Okay, okay. I didn't see the rest of the body. I just saw dark and green glowing in on a black backgrounds. That car slash ghost aesthetic is for every single, like, ghost person from the sunken aisles. Okay, okay And then the A bunch of ghosts

Okay Yeah, the art style It was just I just saw glowing I didn't see the legs there And but what I am seeing is People going like I'll play fucking Hikara man Fucking Centaur

Yeah let's do it Um The shortened term For PNZ Piltover in Zon Yeah being like no Too much PNZ Oh yeah no

They need to stop that Mmhmm Mm-hmm And by the way, Warwick and Kate are also from Piltover and Zon. Okay. That would make like the roster like 60, 70% Piltover and Zon and like another 20% being like Sherema. Yeah. It's way too much.

They need like, Elowie is the only person from the sunken aisles. Knox is the only person from, sorry, Darius is the only person from Noxas. They need more characters from different regions. Brom is the only person from Freilord. Arcane is the most popular. thing related to league that spin off of it. Every single character in that is going to get in eventually. Yeah. And then Rune Terra second and then the Sunkin Isles? Yeah, Sunkin Isles is fairly popular. Everyone in Sunkin Isles is in the game right now, except for misfortune. Okay.

Like the starting lineup for 2XCO was like, did you play Sunkin Isles? No, not Sunkin Is sorry, Ruin King. Ruin King. Okay. Because I like, like, I'm try to because what I don't know is like I know arcane's very popular what I don't know is is like the level of of course we're going to do arcane it's the most popular thing ever what are you stupid like I will they have to be careful with that because like that is like that is a horribly one-sided roster that's that's quite what I'm what I'm wondering is like what that ends up looking like very one-sided yeah um no that big that big dumb fish guy looks cool I'd be that that's fun that's fun there's some real winners in that in that roster uh but for now this is what uh

This is what the leaks are showing. So, interesting. I believe the ones that have jinks voice lines talking to them a lot more than the ones that are just placeholder from actual league. A million percent because a grunt and a sound effect doesn't necessarily confirm anything, for sure. But you do get voice actors to record lines in advance so that you don't have to do multiple sessions and come back on it in an inconvenient way. All right, moving on from there, we got to see the series. G horses, baby. Yeah.

They look great. And steel ball run. They're going to do the horses. They're going to do it. First trailer dropped just today. And the CG horses look like they're good. Look like they worked just great. So they did all their tests.

Perfect. We got a preview of the voices as well. Up till now, these characters were all just voiced in our heads. And then later into the game in, um, all-star battle and stuff. but what we heard is pretty interesting I never would have imagined it but Mr. Steele is voiced by Abdul in part three and I'm like yeah okay

it works I can see that and then uh Jiro he does the fucking smile with the grills and he drops a little and I was like yeah all right I just need to hear the laugh and I'm and you're satisfied right it's kind of you know um um that that

that sold me on it. And I'm curious to see what the other voices are going to sound like. Johnny sounds like a desperate main character full of burning vigor. So that's fantastic as well. Yeah, the only thing I can say is I love the big band sax sound that is staple to the Jojo themes. and this is a new, when you hear the music in the background of this trailer, you hear like a big saxy, blah, you know, like it's cool. But fuck me, I want way more Western guitar strumming for this story, for this. I want to hear cowboy music over the horses and the hats and the dusty trails over this.

So I really hope that they don't kind of like lean too much into the same big band sounds. for the identity of Jojo without bringing enough cowboy to it. So we'll see. We'll see. It's only a tiny little... A little sliver of one song, yeah. But it would be really cool to get

like an intro that's kind of like Ennio Moricone sort of themed, you know? That would be great. Or is it Enrico? Did I get that wrong? Enrico? I thought it was Enio. I think it's Enio as well, but yeah, I was right.

Anyo Morricone. So we're going to get some, hopefully, Spaghetti Western music kicking in there at some point. I also like, yeah, there's a little, just kind of seeing some of those scenes and sights and stuff. I'm like, oh, yeah, fuck yeah. Let's go best part incoming. Like, I'm just, I'm, I want to hear that line read of the first line. you know um which i don't know if you know it but like the first line in steel the first line in steel ball run is this is the story of how i learned to walk um which is learn to walk which is

fucking great oh yeah he like oh yeah oh yeah it's it's i it's bars it's fucking bars steel bar run is so good dude um yeah you want to put your hands up and and Scorsesee it. Speaking of absolute cinema, Kojima Productions had its 10th anniversary live stream Beyond the Strand, and they dropped a bunch of promos for all those

Koji Pro products. Hey, dude, we're going to do PT anyway. Yeah, we're doing it anyway, though. We're just going to do it anyway. Fuck you. Okay, you know what's unfair? You know what's unfair? The fucking sound of a crying baby doesn't fucking hit the same anymore. now the sound of a crying baby is a real deep guttural problem i hate it it makes me so much more

uncomfortable than ever oh really yeah oh i was i'm totally the opposite oh it means nothing much i was much more enerved about babies crying before i heard one a lot okay okay okay so there's levels to it the sound of a baby crying before was bad But now when I know what the fake cry is, I'm like, oh, you're fine, right? Yeah. Then level two is, oh, okay, something's wrong. And the high-pitched shrill is like, oh, my God, get over there. Yeah, but then I'm like, well, it's not mine, though.

Okay. Well, no. I know, I am no longer heightened by the sound of a low-level, level one cry. and a level two cry is manageable level three to level five are a problem you know I didn't even know there was a level five

I discovered for the first time as we as we get a month into this thing we got to see as well yeah first person it's horror hey guess what sounds behind you whispers a creepy table of candles first person walking through doors

and some shit coming up behind you is terrifying Yeah, Kojima still knows how to make you shit your pants, no problem. You're going to poop at your pants. Great. Gonna poop. Then we saw a poster for Fizzint, the tactical espionage action game. And fuck me, that's a cool poster with a cool character. And it says, here comes the feeling.

And yeah. I definitely don't miss Solid Snake. I don't miss him. No, no. Well, look at the jacket, though, right? This is a different. This is a different guy. What a cool jacket.

Jacket. It's the same fucking guy. He's got a coat. Shut up. That looks cool. That I just am like, whatever, whatever is going on with the other stuff, deep, deep down inside. Like, I'm going to make my own snake with blackjacket hookers. Yeah.

Again and again and again and again. You can't stop me. Oh, boy. Yeah. Let's see. Let's see what the deal is. I wonder if Fizzint's twists are going to just play off of being not snake. in certain moments you know like the twist is that I'm just expecting you to expect

metal gear then we got a little more about the death stranding film adaptation hooray it's going to be an original story set in the world of the games so okay good not adapting them directly good don't adapt it that'd be stupid that'd be stupid and it's an 824 film so you know you're gonna get that kind of indie budget feeling I suppose but the complimentary story

that does not have to fuck with any of the existing continuity or canon or whatever great is always the best way to approach this and then they dropped a trailer for the anime they're working on as well called mosquito which Is that Sam that guy's fighting?

I don't think it is he has a little ponytail He has a little hair bun but that's not that doesn't look like Sam. That doesn't look like anime Sam. I don't know. The art style is quite quite distinctive. It could be Sam. But Sam can't do anime slide run punches like that. Oh, dude, everyone in that anime is going to be able to do that shit. Okay. That's just how it is

when you draw it in that art style. Um, it is weird to see that art style with the characters are moving like fucking my hero academia characters doing sliding attacks to each other, but it's just porters punching each other. Also, yeah, wait a second. Sam can do like of Superman punch while like carrying like 250 kilos of shit like I'm absolutely nuts Sam's a beast

okay well the Sam I'm thinking of in my death trending one game is the guy that you know he has weight on his back but he still rucks and trucks and shoots and drives and think about like how much weight you could put on your back before like falling over okay but then and then like the punches you could still throw

sure but like the hyperactual hypothetical versus snake who backflips off the missile, right? I'm going to just tell you this right now. In death training, too, Sam has a bunch of fucking moves. Okay. He's got moves, dog. Okay. There's a lot.

That I don't know them yet. He can do a psycho crusher. That's sick. That's hot. We saw all of that. And yeah, that's cool. and some of the cast as well, um, for, for Fizant, but we're, yeah, sounds fine. Knock is OD's title or subtitle.

O.D. knock. Oh, no, I think that's the name of the trailer. Is that what it is? Okay, the knock trailer. I think that's what they're doing. I think they're doing that hyper pretentious thing with like, this is the knock trailer. Ah, uh, uh, okay, okay. Um, and then, yeah, showing face scans of, of the, the characters mocap seems to be the, the,

the early promo material for her for all this stuff so um i'm i'm really excited to see this jacket design in fizzint more than anything today like the coolest thing i saw today was was that that coat and i want to see that rotated around and i want to see if um this poster is going to uh live up to the energy or if it's going to be another um uh situation where the concept art is so much sicker than the 3D model can ever deliver. I don't think it's going to be able to live up to that piece of art floating around, man. That piece of art doesn't have to, like, coexist with gravity or, like, physics. Yeah, I just, you know, I just, okay, we're never, we might in, in our lifetimes,

but I don't think we're going to get a Yogi Shinkawa game that, like, truly, truly, truly captures that. Because I also don't know how you do that. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's similar to how like we're never going to see Yoshitaka Amano's fucking real vision put forth into a game. No, but the closest you can get is the girl in the egg, uh, uh, you know, that I described the other week.

Even that isn't like his art put to fucking motion. These guys, their art exists in a still form. it's too all over the place but you know every once in a while you grasp at it with things like Okami and then watercolory paint early strokes and shit so you know you can see

we can see something I my eyes were opened by watching that slam dunk movie get in a way's art style like not vagabond level but like it got to a point that was quite quite impressive so you know I would love to see anything experimental, trying it out.

Anyway, cool stuff coming from Koji Pro. And then the only other bits were, did you see Ananta? I did. I saw a little bit of it when we were sitting around. What the fuck is this thing? It appears to be a Sony, but, Everything, everything. It's just anime characters from a Gatcha game.

I thought, I literally thought it was like Hoyo versus next fucking game. But they're making get jokes and then he's Spider-Man swinging. And then there's GTA and Yakuza bits. And I don't really know what's happening. I mean, I saw a Fox girl with a fat boobs. So, I mean, it's probably got some value. A Gatcha game with no Gacha.

What does that even mean? Like, I don't. Hey, hey, we'll get to you. You chill. You chill out. I'm being yelled at. Okay. Okay.

Yeah, I just, I don't know how to, how to parse anything I saw in that trailer. But it appears to just be a mash-up of all things in a nonsense way. And I'm guessing that's the deal. I guess the bit is like we're making fun of everything a little bit. So the genre will suddenly become whatever. I have no idea. It looks like GTA just animated. Yeah.

Boos okay? He's mad at me because he usually eats at 3 o'clock. Okay. But we took our break at an awkward time, so I was planning to finish around now. And so now he's like super pissed and he's like, where's my food, bitch? Oh, okay. Well, let's wrap it up then. As you can see, he can move around real good despite being horribly crippled.

Okay. Especially when he's hungry. I just found that, like, speaking of Sony, the absolute audacity of Tencent in the... Oh, they're fighting the lawsuit, yeah, it's fucking... Horizon Zero Don, Sony is suing Tencent for the light of Motiram, which has the fucking Horizon Zero Don at home story that we told you a couple weeks ago, where it's just like... Yeah, and they're like, nah, man, that shit's legit as hell. They're actually fighting it. They're going, no, it's not a clone.

And how dare you accuse us of that? And Sony's not aimed at fighting off piracy or plagiarism or any gender an intellectual property threat. This is an attempt to fence off a well-trodden corner of pop culture and declare it Sony's exclusive domain. They're sitting smugly and filing their motion to dismiss going, this is totally original. and Sony doesn't own the idea of these things or whatever, and you're doing it while you are one-to-one lifting shit from Horizon Zero Don. It's such an asshole move. I think this falls under a rule that I would like,

I try and bring up every now and then about the legal process, which is a rule that I think judges should be able to use every now and then, which is called the get the fuck out of here rule, or every now and then judges get the ability to go, Get the fuck out of here! So... What are you talking about? Unfortunately, what you're describing does not exist in all places, but New York State does have a frivolous lawsuit, um, uh, uh, uh, law where you can basically, a part of a counter suit can be that you could determine that the person filing it was, that it was frivolous and was wasting everybody's time.

And then they would have to pay all the damages and pay for the cost of lawyers and pay for wasting everyone's time and it's really expensive if you try to be a litigious asshole for no reason, right? Now, in this type of instance, it's just funny because they're standing here smugly, smirking and going like, what are you talking about?

This is totally original. You know, and at the same time, by the way, right after Pocopia got announced, Pal Whirl announced Pal Farm. Yeah, man. It's fucking different. Don't you see how different it is?

It's so different. Fucking Christ. It's really funny. All right. Anyways, y'all, let's take some letters. If you want to send in a letter, send it to Castle Super Beastmail, gmail.com. That's Castle Superbeastmail, gmail.com. Can you see how much stronger this dog is getting now that he's hungry? Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. That eyes, those eyes are bigger and wider than I've ever seen. It's horrible. Aren't they ugly? Oh, he's so ugly. Treasure Vault asks, their grandpa and pop pop swords are lame hammers are rad which is best clubs are also accepted contenders include what's the well what's the best hammer contenders include

Lido's great hammer from Dark Souls 3 makes you flip and do big smashes smelter hammer or drumstick from DS2 pancake or problems the monster hunter hammer charges up a big hit um Kirby hammer solves all problems lies of P wrench head on the police baton handle will carry you through the whole game. Yeah. What's best hammer? I have a absolute soft spot and super love in my heart

for the Kirby hammer. That fucking mallet is beautiful. I also think Milnear is pretty cool, you know, because of the stylishness of the fact that you can make it come back to you. But I always, always felt that like the big old fantasy

hammers of big smash, like, that's cool. cool and all, but a real warhammer with like a small head and a spike on the back is dope as fuck. And I feel like real warhammers are not represented enough. And I think that they're versatile weapons that are very

scary and terrifying because of the point of putting all that force on a particular small point is really threatening. And I think those are cool as a pole arm. So I want to see more real warhammers. I'm going to give a tie between

the Thunderhammer from Warhammer. The 40k version, the one that Space Marines used to hit fucking demons in the face with. Okay. And Bloodborm's boom hammer, which is essentially just a gunpowder charge that hitting the enemy with causes it to ignite and explode. That's good. Yep. Nope, that's sick. Does anyone have any?

Are there, like, yeah, I'm just like, I feel like there's the Polar. Sol's games had the pole arm hammer at some point, right? There's a couple of those, but it's pretty rare. Yeah. Anyway, those are good. Those are good.

I'm also going to say sketchy looking guy on the street with a regular hammer. A regular tool hammer from Canadian tire. Yeah. This is also a problem. That's also like.

like a really cool hammer. That's a humor. Yeah, that is an issue you have to deal with. And I would put that aura as threatening as a big old dwarf with a big old fucking giant, big as me hammer as well. Mm-hmm. True stuff. All right. That'll do it. All right. Everybody have a good week. Take care. Thank you. I'm