Castle Super Beast - CSB340: The Videogame Industry Soulcrash

Episode Date: October 2, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm AIMAWROWS ALEANI-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. what the what the fuck did you do what the fuck is that what is that what is going on what is happening oh no let me full screen this what is that no no signal dude that's like the Avermedia fucking thing. Okay. Well, um, for some reason.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Yeah, there we go. We're fine. No, the, the, the USB didn't want it, didn't want a thing. That's what I. Hey, waltz. How you doing, man? Oh, boy. Uh, yeah, good, good, good, you know.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Um, this is a wildly huge week we have to talk about this week. Indeed, indeed, you know, um, had a big old, big old, uh, baby delay morning. Wow. Oh, he did it again. Oh, stuff's happening. Oh, you don't know what you're doing. Ah! I love it.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Oh, shit. Okay. All right. One of these wires. Let me do it. Let me do it too. I'm going to do it too. Hold on.
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Starting point is 00:01:47 Put me back. Okay. Hold on. One of these wires is crossed. Something's happening that's not supposed to happen right now. Put me back. You're back. You're back.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Okay. I'm back. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, oh, what are you doing it too? Oh, yeah. I'm doing it on purpose, though. Huh. I can do a signal myself on purpose.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Well, I mean, this is the natural evolution of the show, right? So, okay, what is actually... I fucking love doing shit live now. I fucking love it. I used to be so fucking stressed out and just like, ah, no, it's breaking. And now when things break and I used to get no sound, I'm like, yeah, fuck it. We're doing mime shows now. Well, the benefit of establishing a brand on apps.
Starting point is 00:02:27 dog shit quality is that we get to embrace this um so it would seem that the camera is just i guess shutting off fucky-wucky yeah uh no what's making you do that you have like a really good picture of yourself i've got maybe an animated gif uh not within two seconds but oh there we go you're yeah but is it gonna is it going to shut off again i guess is it's okay uh it's i'm gonna guess it might Right. I'm going to guess it might. If it's on, yeah, there we go. Okay. Let me see what's going on with the camera. Is that like a battery issue or something? I don't know. Let's take a little second. We'll take a little second. All right. But this part in though. This is fun. All right. BRB. BRB. All right. I think we're good. I think it was a loose wire being all weird. All right. Let's let's try it.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Hello. Hey, what's going on? Oh, no, there's a big podcast this week. Waka, walka, walker. The, would you like to discuss the inshittification of the video game industry even further beyond the limits of what we thought was possible? What I thought we could discuss in one day? Yeah. Yeah, I would love to do that. Okay, because, you know, over here at Castle Super Beast, we speak truth to power.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Oh, yeah, absolutely. That's us. All right. Good stuff. It's, um, we all know how it's going to go. And we've known and we've been, we've been talking about how fucked shit is and how shit is, in fact, fucked. Yeah, so we talked a little bit about this a while ago. And I, I believe I remember saying that you and I had been mentioning how like, oh, what's the next video game crash?
Starting point is 00:04:19 And we're like, the video game crash has been happening for years. It's just slow. It's just been really slow. It's just slow. Yeah, that's it. And, you know, and there's the part of it where there's the, like, there's the soul crash, and then there's the market crash. Yeah. And the sole crash takes place before the market crash.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Much before, much before. We're going to. This week is the soul crash. Yeah. Oh, I mean, my soul crash was last year. Last year, yeah. You know, but this continues, absolutely. And, yes, I think as a whole.
Starting point is 00:04:56 as a large, a scale sweeping effect, multiple people will be experiencing the soul crash. The, you know, you got to just bunker down and go, what are the numbers? What's the percentage? Do you care more about the percentage or do you care more about the billions, you know? Well, Wully, what are you talking about? What could you be referring to that could be so dramatic?
Starting point is 00:05:20 I'm talking about how far I got in Silk Song. Yeah? How far did you get in Silk Song? uh so um i'm now knee deep into into act two um and i you're about halfway through the game yeah halfway through the game so so so it's it's yeah now it's getting weird because there's parts where i can say like oh i can i can say that like i am at this point where i've defeated the clockwork dancers right sure but that doesn't mean anything does mean shit because i also realized that, oh, for a long time, I kind of didn't clear or go through a fucking
Starting point is 00:06:04 Sinners Rise or whatever it was called. Yeah, surely there can't be six zones attached to that one path. You know, to which it turns out, oh, that'd be absurd. I had been ignoring that part for a way too long and went back through that and was like, oh, fuck, oh shit, okay, hold on, there's a lot going on here. Um, so I've, I've, you know, My citadel exploration is, you know, one part of things. But then there's this whole other fucking Eastern map thing that's going on. And then you're like, oh, I've assuredly explored most of the Citadel. Oh, never mind.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Yeah. Okay. Never mind. So here's what I will say. After the last judge, which is like a proper DLC level, like get the pattern and do this perfectly fine. There learn it yeah yeah Yeah, fucking learn it right And yeah you can use your tools to melt a bunch of this
Starting point is 00:07:04 But you're gonna have to just recognize the animations Your ability to recognize startup is just crucial And as it always has been in Hollow Night After that it was interesting to kind of see like It's not that the game lets up on you But like it takes a while before you naturally encounter another boss Right and when you do, well for me
Starting point is 00:07:27 it was the clockworked dancers and to me that was a joke by comparison right? Absolutely. Well because when you beat when you beat the last judge the game doesn't throw combat trials at you. It throws platforming
Starting point is 00:07:43 trials at you. It does. It does. It's like no, okay, so you can fight. All right. Next up, let's see you deal with some sawblades. Yeah. Let's see you deal with a Metroid vertical like climb except that the enemies here are evasive and annoying
Starting point is 00:07:59 you know and if you're patient they're fine but it's just you're just in a hurry and you're like god damn it can you stop dodging me as soon as I dash up to you you know and I will say one thing that I I was like eh that was a little unclear moment
Starting point is 00:08:16 was the um that the the weight teeter totter platforming there's these little teeter totters in the citadel um you don't think you can hit them physically. You think you land on them to make them shift, but you actually need to hit them in order to not get stuck. And that was a little bit of a like,
Starting point is 00:08:36 I don't know that what that, a little bit outside the rules of what we've been doing in this game so far. I didn't think you'd have to physically slash the scales to make them move. So I kind of got stuck wandering back and forth a little bit over there. And then, And yeah, you know, get to all these areas of this, you know, Anna Rolando, if you would. I mean, it is a giant, empty, like, church themed castle, right? So, I mean, fuck, that theme is there.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Cool enemies to fight and stuff. But the, yeah, the clockwork dancers, that was like second try, you know? I was like, huh? Oh, yeah, they're very easy. I left them till super late. Okay. Because I recognized, so I walked into the room and I fought them like two times and I was like, this is, and I, the design of the room made me leave. Because the room's centralized location and it's like visual similarity to the symphony of the night clock tower room made me go, this is probably important.
Starting point is 00:09:44 So I like cleaned out everything I could before going back there. And then I really stomped their asses. Yeah. In fact, you know, it's centered on both sides and then the icon is pointing at it as the objective. So you're like, right, this is a probable important thing. And upon doing so, you can see, yeah, hey, the game's like, yeah, good. Now we need you to do big objectives, you know. So going backwards and kind of making my way through. And also, I got, it sucks. But I'm like, there was a couple of things where I'm like, I didn't have the bead markers to remember where I saw some interesting. things but now I'm like what was that room that had some jail cells in it that I ran into early in the game and now I don't know what fucking section it was in and you didn't I didn't have the beads to put a marker down and I'm like ah that's a bad feeling because I would have put a marker down if I could afford it at the time but I could didn't and couldn't and now I'm just like am I going to have to start pausing the game and taking screenshots on my cell phone
Starting point is 00:10:44 to remember things just just re-explore everywhere yeah so I I think that part of the game's economy is based around the idea that you'd get a new ability and go, I am now going to backtrack to every room I have been in the entire game. Which, I mean, for me and like Metroidvania's things, I kind of am like, I'm trying to remember the big obvious, like, you know, yellow doors that I ran by. But like, and then you're all, then there's always going to be that part of the map where you look at it and go, oh, this room looks like it's not completely explored. And those rooms Has like a weird gap Like in the map next to it
Starting point is 00:11:22 And it's really square in this corner And you're like Yeah But no And I've Or when I find myself I'm like hey I gotta go get some Some chips to refill my tools
Starting point is 00:11:35 Because this boss fight's taken up all my tools Or whatever the case is You know Which yeah I have found myself like Getting a bit like Ere annoyed at the going The chip collection
Starting point is 00:11:47 that that that that that is sometimes necessary um but i went through the secondary i was mentioning there and um then i hit the mist and i was like okay i see what we're doing here um and then i got through the mist and as soon as i saw like what was going on and uh you know i noticed the randomized nature of it I kind of looked and went listen
Starting point is 00:12:22 I'm this is just I'm a dad I got I got a limited amount of time I want the solution what is it You would have
Starting point is 00:12:31 figured it out in five ten minutes No I don't think I would have The musical elements Willie Do you think that you are
Starting point is 00:12:38 substantially less intelligent than me I don't know I mean you know a lot of shit I don't think you are less
Starting point is 00:12:47 intelligent than me. I think you were about the same. And I figured it out in about 10 minutes. Okay. I ran through it and I found, I got to a point where I was like, I can fight these ghosts forever. That's not an issue. It's more just like I'm running in circles and I'm looking at my watch going, no, I can't do this. I got to feed the baby in 45 minutes. Like, fuck this. You gotta think lateral man. I kind of just want, I don't care. I just, I get what you're doing. I appreciate it, but I don't have time. You know? um a brain's really big buddy yeah you can do it so you know um anyways uh after looking that up uh got through and hit some of that fucking um uh blight town you know more yeah hit some of the more blight town hit hit hit love some of that lovely blight town um but uh there was a really really cool phantom boss fight
Starting point is 00:13:44 at the end of that and I you got the really really cool thing I have to say I very much appreciate that they take the time to make fights like that where the boss is not that hard
Starting point is 00:14:02 because they're like you but it's just cool right the human enemies like kind of like fighting a hornet as Hollow Night the first time. Fighting lace is not that hard. Fighting Phantom is not
Starting point is 00:14:19 that hard, but it's so cool. It's very cool. And it feels good to like zip around the room and like, you know, counter them in the air and stuff. Ludo narrative harmony. Let's go. So were you able to pass Phantom?
Starting point is 00:14:38 Were you able to climb up all the way into the guts? of the Citadel? Yeah. Okay. So that's why it's called Sinners Road because it lets you get through the back without going through the door and being judged. Oh, that's good.
Starting point is 00:14:56 That's great. That is a full alternate path to get into the Citadel. Into the main game. And you don't deal with the judge. Yeah. That's great. And you don't have to deal with ringing the bells
Starting point is 00:15:09 to open the door either. You take the sinner's path. Yeah. Ah, nicely done. Nicely done. Okay. Because they both lead to the same like primary underzone. So once you get to Belmore, you can just head up from Graymar into that path and ignore all the critical. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Interesting. Well, it's not taking it easy on you. I mean. No, it's definitely, nothing in that game is taking it easy. Yeah, that path. That game, so you remember Deep Nest, right? Yeah. So, Bialwater is this game's Deep Ness.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Yeah. Right? And much like Deep Nest in Hollow Night, for me, I fell into Bile Water. Okay, okay. From above and was like, I don't have a map. Help, fuck, help. Yeah. You know when you fall in a zone and like you're like 100 character lengths off the side of the next zone?
Starting point is 00:16:10 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're not getting, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, no, there's a, there's a absolute fun, and, of course, the paranoia of walking through that game with, like, you know, your one pip away from death, and you're like, I got to be really precise with everything I do from now on. And that is why you cash in your fucking rosaries for strings and necklaces of beads. Yes, I did. So you can remove that fucking shit from your brain entire. And I'm so happy I did that. I fucking paid a premium to get all those rosaries strung up. And then eventually when I met our architect friend,
Starting point is 00:16:53 was it the 12th engineer or the 12th architect? Anyway. The architect, yeah. The architect, yeah. It was like, awesome. I got the cash. Let's go. Now, that's another one of those things where it's like, here's three things you can buy.
Starting point is 00:17:09 all sounds pretty interesting. You have one or to make one of these things, which one are you going with? And I have that feeling that this is a crossroads of like, oh, if you spend your tools incorrectly, if you spend your resources incorrectly. There's enough. But it might take some time to go back and get the others. It will definitely take some time. That's what I'm thinking about. So I'm like, what do you want right away? And I'm like, give me the one that says I can dodge better, please. And I think that was the correct choice.
Starting point is 00:17:42 It seems like... If it helps you dodge better, then absolutely. All of them are good. Like literally all of them are good. Okay. The backdash one is really good for mobility. The saw you can combine with the fucking tax
Starting point is 00:18:00 to just annihilate anything that has to live on the ground. um the the double jump one that makes that that does a slash around your character if you reverse direction and slash while it's happening you double the hits and speed runners are using it to fuck up the game by doing like triple hits on jumps what like there there's a lot of good stuff that everything that guy sells is pretty good okay well and then of course the key yes so now for the first time in hours i'm sitting here deciding Do I want to fucking gigadryl break my way through? Just start scraping up everything. Well, I already... You'll find it eventually. The move, okay, the move set was interesting enough on the crest of the architect to...
Starting point is 00:18:49 I spent my memory locks on it, right? I thought it was interesting enough to spend. So... It's very strong. I committed to those slots, and I'm going to walk around and see how it goes. Because I don't mind the, like, the down angle, it's kind of like, the hunter's dive kick, you know, the downslash, but you can charge it and you can control it a little better.
Starting point is 00:19:10 So I'm like, all right, that's, it's not as good as the Reaper, but you know what? Let's, let's see if we can get used to this a little bit, you know? And then rebuilding your, remaking your tools, um, sounds like a lot of fun. Um, it's, um, if you're willing to blow the resources. Yeah. You can just decide that you don't want to fight encounters. Oh, it's a Mega Man game now. yeah I got that I got that well
Starting point is 00:19:36 if you get you get the three good tools like tax is one right curve claws another there's a couple you haven't met yet like the saw blade actually would be a good one and you're just like no I don't want to fucking fight this arena fight
Starting point is 00:19:49 I don't want to fucking fight this boss I am gonna throw down an infinite amount of shit so that on every phase change they walk into it in their own phase change to cut scene and die random bullshit go and spend your ammo when you're done yeah
Starting point is 00:20:04 And now that I have the To get to that point You have to get the The harpoon Then it's like oh well now we have a pretty good means of like Getting you know Silk Harpoon is the best button in the game
Starting point is 00:20:21 It costs one pip of silk And refunds one pip of silk if you hit the enemy Amazing Which means if you're using it to close distance It's free Love that Um, and then, of course, the, the, the, the parry, which yields an exceptionally strong reward for, for fairly simple timing, really loose. Simple-ass timing, giving me such a good reward is kind of nuts.
Starting point is 00:20:51 The counter slashes will, like, track flying enemies. Everything on screen, it seems. Yeah, I'm, I'm a bit shocked at how powerful that is. at the end of the game the pair I for most of the end like the final stretch I used the parry with like a charm that made
Starting point is 00:21:08 Silk's skills better and would just like Perry's one thing and like the whole fucking room would just explode yeah I'm honestly like it's too strong it's not the strongest okay because I feel
Starting point is 00:21:25 it is it is the second strongest I feel like I have not earned the reward I get for simple tracking on a boss that's just like you know anyway Savage Beast Fly can go fuck itself
Starting point is 00:21:42 That second fight is out of control That is completely insane That's bad shit Isn't that like And then the fucking sequence after it I mean Dude I'm telling you Savage Beast Fly 2 hardest thing in the whole game
Starting point is 00:21:58 I can't believe They thought that was okay. And you do all that and you're like, hey, you know what you need? You need a fourth of a heart container. Man. Yeah, so that was that was a proper deterrent. I actually went, you know what, video game? I am deterred.
Starting point is 00:22:16 You have successfully deterred me. I described to you saying, what do you even fucking want from me? When I discovered that the ads would keep coming in forever. Yeah, yeah. It's when I'm like, what do you, what do you want? Yeah. And it's like, that part where you're like, oh, well, after the whole platform gets destroyed, there's going to be something, surely, right?
Starting point is 00:22:41 And the game's like, Anakin staring at fucking Padmei, uh-huh. Uh-huh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, sure. If you say so, man. What platform? It literally destroyed everything. And I'm like, so. I guess I'll die
Starting point is 00:22:58 fucking get good dude yeah so anyway that's an interesting one um yeah and it's and like some of those patterns are it's weirdly about like not taking every shot that you can get you know no no because like you like you like the the final boss
Starting point is 00:23:16 is like a really good example of like dude you could run in there and get hit them but then you're going to be in a bad position and you will not be able to escape Whatever the fucking boss wants to do to you Yeah I'm seeing some people say Pogo And I'm like actually
Starting point is 00:23:31 Pogoing the Beastfly Is a terrible idea In a lot of instances Because of the fact that it won 80s And we'll catch you in the air Sometimes when your trajectory Even if you dash out of the way It's not going to be altered in time
Starting point is 00:23:44 Right It's more reliable to not Pogo And to go for ground hits I've noticed I use mostly ground hits When it did the downstop Okay yeah Yeah, those are, that's the way, you know, um, but there's a couple of moments like you just,
Starting point is 00:24:00 it's basically, if you want to rely on the luck of the boss pattern not stopping you, then you can go for Pogo's. And there's a couple of instances like this, right? Where bosses are like, you can get a hit in here, but you don't know what it's going to do next. And sometimes the behavior will mean you're going to take a hit and get fucked over. Last judge is similar, right, where one of the, one of the tricks that I can, that I can help you with is that, um, you can use the hard. to co-in and use the dash to go out because the dash does have like 10 frames of invincibility on it.
Starting point is 00:24:33 So I was, I had neither of those tools when I was fighting the Beast Fly 2. Like I had neither of those tools. I had, I went. That was like the beginning of all this stuff before I did all of that. So I, I didn't even have the tax yet. I was fighting it with like, um, Shuriken, uh, the fucking the air spikes. you know, the air trap, and, yeah, the hunter's, you know, the hunter's weapon, right? So there was no mobility that I had at that point. Pretty much as soon as it was available, right? Also, yeah, what the fuck at that area in the beginning that is like, wow. Okay, so you're describing, last week there were a bunch of comments underneath the YouTube clip. like what the fuck area is pat talking about i'm talking about an area that is hidden away in the very first zone of the game that provides the single largest amount of power you get in the entire game
Starting point is 00:25:37 by an order of magnitude it is also lore wise it's extremely interesting also there are four secrets in there it's baffling There are four secret areas in that map, in that tiny space. Yeah. It is a baffling thing to discover and potentially have being be missable. I will say that like that theme of things, like you hit the far east and then like you're kind of you're going to hit. You've got to run into that at some point, right? Your curiosity will lead you.
Starting point is 00:26:20 But wow. is that a strange optional thing that should not be optional yeah so if it makes you feel any better if you get far enough into the game it stops being optional interesting okay okay but uh by far enough into the game i mean really far into the game interesting okay okay also i i you know the uh team cherry knows what type of NPCs and chums you like to meet a little the way in these types of games and there's a good cat there's a good cast of little bugs that you meet up with you know um all yeah and all very souls like you know you got the naive ones that are fun and jovial you got the heroic ones with the big moustaches that are
Starting point is 00:27:12 tough you know what i absolutely love i was i was scrolling on my tech talk and uh somebody pointed out that Sherma beats you to the Citadel. Like, they get there first. Not in my case. Wait, not in my case. Oh, yeah? Because you meter at the bench outside. And then you open the way.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Oh, is that how that works? Yeah. But then later, you go in and you take a dip and it's like, oh, hey, what's up? you know um but at least for me i saw you got that cutscene i didn't get that one uh okay excuse me him um i met i met shirma at the bench uh before the last judge and oh really yes and then there was uh the the meeting inside there's a a crazy amount of umpc interactions that don't lead to quests but you can miss yes I, so going back to, um, whatever, first, first tower, bone bottom. There's a bunch of pilgrims and people that you meet there and stuff, or people that are hanging out in the bar that you can talk to that are just there once and then they're gone, you know? Um, and even some pilgrims where I'm just like, oh, you're the first pilgrim that's really nice and kind of like, I'm hesitant to go. I'm a little scared. We can hang out together. You're like, oh, you're cute. That's fun. And then to come along and meet. And then to come along and meet. And
Starting point is 00:28:45 like this deep like sinners must perish and this kind of like I'm like oh you suck you know that's you're you're one of them and then you're meeting all these different types or so um and and uh you know there are those there are those those dudes hiding out in the uh fucking muckety muck cabin where you got to oh yeah those fucking freeze yeah where you got to feed them the guts or whatever yeah and they drop a single piece of like lore information that's super interesting where they're just like
Starting point is 00:29:20 yeah I don't know why it didn't affect us it seems to be like the more faithful you are the more likely you are going to get strung up you know there seems to be a connection there you're like huh interesting interesting from you fucking dumpster diving
Starting point is 00:29:35 like hobos back here feasting on guts dropping some important lore information you know so that was cool um shoutouts to those enemies as well that like climb surfaces those little dogs that are like oh you're up there i'm coming to get you the cockroaches yeah they're gone awful that's crazy terrible yeah i'm like oh you you take too many hits what the fuck and they have a grab attack
Starting point is 00:30:00 instead of a fucking bite yep and they take extra damage off of that too and they lunge and you're like man like the only i have to stand on top and like knock you back down four or five times before you're fucking dead so like they make them properly like a threat you know um so hey man you've made it through a bunch of the citadel and you're exploring out in wild water you're totally about about halfway done halfway through yeah do you really see what i fucking meant like no matter how far you go you always feel like you're halfway through because you walk through like a single door and it goes zone zone zone zone there's there's two moments around where you're at where the game was like here's three more and then a different one
Starting point is 00:30:41 or it's like, here's five more. So, how did you fucking... But I'll tell you what my brain did. I jumped on an elevator and then I looked at the map and then I was like out fucking there.
Starting point is 00:30:54 And I was like, oh, okay, well then, yeah, fine. I will accept... Yeah, hey, guess what? You're fucking super wrong. Oh. You're fucking super wrong.
Starting point is 00:31:10 You took me up. You took me up. up to a goddamn mothership. And now I'm assuming that the space in between will be filled out. Yeah. Well, we'll see. Maybe. Maybe. I'm having a good time with that. Lots of fun.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Super good. And, okay, another thing I don't like is when I put down my reminder tokens on my map, I hate that they're so big that they block out the room. Dude, I was putting them down, and then I would have to, like, move them over to be part of the room, but not on the space. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Because they'll, like, block the, icon for like a bench that sucks i hate that don't do that please you know um yeah and and this is not this is not even counting the areas where you're like oh you don't have the fucking various suit you can't take this climate you know bro i uh i got there was a there's a point where i was putting down i was like oh i don't know what's here and i'd put down a marker and i'm like oh i'll have no fucking maps i'll just put it directly on a hornet's icon i guess and just hope it lines up with the fucking geography later.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Yeah. Oh, yeah. There's a... I did that when I was looking for the map in fucking Blightown, and you're out in the nothing. And I'm like, okay, well, I can see the ring so I know my friend is nearby.
Starting point is 00:32:30 So I'm gonna just... Boy, you get that fucking map. Fucking really late. You get that map. I'm looking at that thing, and I'm like, I guess I just keep going and eventually I look... Nope. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:41 I guess. not then fuck me um oh yeah and and shoutouts to um hypogee in jail oh you did that yeah that's a nice cool fucking that's a nice sequence that's a nice sequence um there are a number of weird hidden interactions with that area uh you can kill the enemies that bring you there and just not go uh and then there is a hidden interaction with one of the quests that prevents you from going as well. Huh. I think experiencing it like this way is probably best.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Oh, absolutely awesome. Yeah. But the goofy hidden quest interaction is also very cool. Okay. And so the way my brain also works is I go, oh, hey, look, it's a move set. Huh. I wonder if this was only made for this one segment and nothing else ever. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Really? You're not even going to recycle the ability to... Completely bespoke. That's wild. That's such a, that's a free crest. Just make it good. Nope. What?
Starting point is 00:33:52 Oh my God. I immediately clocked that as like, oh, that's going to be a sick-ass crest when I put some damage on that. Nope. Wow. Weird. Weird to do that. Okay, cool. That's fine, I guess.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Every quest uses the nail. Hmm. Sorry, the needle. The needle. My mistake. Well, opportunity lost, I suppose. I mean, shit. Nah, there's a bunch of crests, and they're pretty good.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Because you already did a melee move set. Just make it do damage, and I'm in, you know? Well, I mean, that's what the beast is for. If you want a punching thing, then you have beast. I hate that I'm going to say this, but fuck the beast, man. Yeah, no, it's terrible. It's awful. I hate it.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Anyways, Skong is... That last crest, though. Okay. Okay. Well, I spent all my memory locks, so I'm going to have to replenish my stuff. So there's 18 that you can get right now. Yeah. And then the final crest uses Needs 2. Okay. And luckily enough, there's two that you can only get after being able to get the final crest. Oh, okay. Good to know. On that note, actually, there's a detail here. I don't care if you spoil it for me. Go for it. Sorry, chat. It's our viewers at home.
Starting point is 00:35:06 what determines when I should go back and visit the first area in the game? Would you believe it took me like the whole fucking game to figure that out? It's a time waster and I don't care about not knowing because if I go back and there's a waste of time, then that sucks. So if you know what it is, okay. The whole game to figure that out. What is it? What is it? It is two things.
Starting point is 00:35:30 It is number of crests plus lockets used. not owned lockets used fuck okay i thought it i thought it might have been like owned and i went back and it was nothing no it is used okay yeah and crests overall yes okay okay okay so someone in the chat points it out i'm not sure if this accurate but six crests and 15 lock it's used will max you out okay so is the idea basically that once that's true i think you need i think you need all so is the idea that essentially like opening up a weapon means it's time to go visit if if you if you get a crest and you go visit if you use some memory locks go visit okay there's a there's a very discreet number of upgrades
Starting point is 00:36:33 there's not that many. You already have two of them. I have two. Right? They are both, the two next ones are along those lines. Okay. And then the final upgrade
Starting point is 00:36:48 is something very different. Yeah, because I got, that first one got me very excited and I was like, oh, give me that, but not for this.
Starting point is 00:36:56 You know? No, the next one will be that again for that. Okay. Which makes it really good. Yeah, but I don't like that. Well, then you'll really like the other two. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:09 You know, don't, don't. It's very worth it. Don't lock me in. I remember when I locked the final upgrade there and I was like, oh, this doesn't say, oh, it's really worth it. A lot. Okay. Yeah. You know, if I, if I like a crest or if I don't like a crest, I don't want to think about it, you know, even if there's something crazy on it.
Starting point is 00:37:31 Okay. Skonging it up. Dude, when you. you get there, I will just tell me when you're there and I will just DM you where to get the last crest right away because you will want it. After the next two? After, no, after, quote, I will say this into my own quotation. When you are there, tell me and then I will tell you where to get the last crest right away.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Oh, I love that. That's great. Yes, yes, yes. Okay, man, video games are fucking awesome when they're not being terrible. That's so cool. Where you like, oh, don't worry about it. When you're there. Yeah, okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:38:11 That's good. I like that. That's exciting. It's just the video game art forms version of I'll make a distraction. And then I'll hit you with the signal. What's the signal? Oh, don't worry. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:22 You'll know. You'll know. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Okay. So, yeah, I will continue along that. that path, seeing if I'm going to drill it up for now.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Something cool, too, about, like, walking backwards, like, tic-tick-tick-tick-tick-tick-tick-tch-tch-thro. There's something just fucking sick about that backwards animation. Scuttles, scuttle. Well, it also, like, really shows off that, like, Hornet's, like, a creepy little freak. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, don't get it twisted. Don't forget this is a weird little bug creature, you know.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Um, just because they're standing upright and sounding cool. All right, so that's enough about Silk's song Okay, here's what I'm going to see What's the best way to talk around this I went Me and Punch Mom, we watched Weapons Oh yeah Have you heard about weapons
Starting point is 00:39:18 That's the one made by the whitest kids you know, writer How many hot dogs you eat in one day Also the barbarian I believe, right? So, yes, this is a, and I was told to go watch this movie cold with no trailers, no information, no nothing, just go check it out. And I did. So it's a very spoilable movie. It's going to be a little bit difficult.
Starting point is 00:39:49 So I'm going to talk around the major elements here. Yeah, all I've heard about weapons is that it would make me vomit horribly, specifically. pat true uh and that um that you can't talk about without ruining the movie um yeah there's there's some absolutely there's some horrible targeted violence for you okay um and so without talking about the content of it i'll say i'll talk about my feelings about about what i watched uh i felt like it was really well directed um it's as and here's the thing too is i'm kind of like uh i i I, there's horror movies that kind of like tickle my fancy that kind of do things that are a little bit unexpected or so. And then there's stuff that's kind of like, yeah, not really my vibe.
Starting point is 00:40:39 There's a lot. I would say that a big part of, you know, me not getting into survival horror genre games and stuff was also me just not getting into like schlock horror too much as a kid as well, you know. It's not my home genre. But I do have an appreciation for like the really good stuff. and especially stuff that like gives you shit that you that stays with you that you keep thinking about you know so for example I recently experienced a lot of Junji Ito um on on versus wolves I've gotten to appreciate some short stories where it's you're kind of just going like oh what about this crazy idea is there anything else to the idea nah but what if though campfire stories
Starting point is 00:41:15 you know um so uh this is a um yeah this is kind of like that right this is a campfire story kind of extrapolated into a film and it reminds me so the one thing yeah how I feel about it without talking about the content too much is what I thought it was really well directed because it's it's told in an interesting narrative way which is not typical of horror movies I feel like it's told in a way that is um you kind of piece together moments from seeing different angles of the story, you know, um, the, the, the, the, the, it's nonlinear narrative, which is great. Um, I also think there's something that has been happening where the, the horror movies of like the 70s and 80s, you know, I would say influenced our age, our generation, who are now
Starting point is 00:42:13 making films and have been for a long time making films that are like, you know, uh, homageing and or full of all the stuff that, you know, gets the heart pumping. That's really kind way to say that. Sure. But. Because like, for me, it's always been like everybody's trying to remake aliens and then the rest of them are trying to remake Lord of the Rings.
Starting point is 00:42:35 I know what you mean. The problem is, I don't want to talk a shit about a genre I've only experienced a bit of and that I don't dive deep into because I can understand the idea that like, hey, Willie, you might not have experienced enough of this to fully grasp it. So I'm speaking from a distance here. looking down, right? But one thing I've noticed is that horror seems to be filled with a lot of movies that are
Starting point is 00:42:59 self-referential, their genre referential, where essentially the person making it will be like, I have a really funny punchline of an ending in mind, and I'm going to build an entire story around that. Absolutely. That's taking dead serious, you know? The substance is a great film where I would say, like, it's, it's, there's. a lot to think about and there's a lot going on with it and then there's a ridiculous like finale when you hit credits on that that is like and here's the reason why we even
Starting point is 00:43:29 wanted to make this to begin with right yeah this is the scene that uh this the scene the movie started with yeah and then we tried to figure out a movie that would justify the same exactly so this is that again and i'm watching it going oh okay the whole thing was for this right this is all it was uh the menu is also a little bit like that but it has a bit more direct like are you a food snob than this is targeted at you but in this case the subject matter of this film
Starting point is 00:43:54 is like it's based around this one idea right now the that was enjoyable and the direction
Starting point is 00:44:05 and that kind of like build up to what you're finally getting to is very fun and solid there are some problems I had
Starting point is 00:44:12 with it as well and these are just kind of like movie logic issues you know of sorts um have you seen the poster for it by any chance for weapons yeah it's hold on uh i didn't see the trailer but i saw the poster for it it's it's kids okay well that okay all right all right okay right narrow to running i see that and that's the problem
Starting point is 00:44:35 you can never unsee the kids narrow to running every time there's narrator running in the movie of which there is some there is not a little amount there is a copious amount of narrow to a running and there's no way you can't see it has anything else because that's what it is into area 51 and that sucks that's super goofy right the narrow to run is never going to my brain will not interpret it seriously even though it is
Starting point is 00:45:06 asking me to and I had a hard time with that right it's really funny dude that's really fucking funny it's very funny um the other thing is uh something that I hate and don't enjoy about the genre that bothers me is when things do the opposite of what I feel like, uh, it's like, I love alien. I love how it's, you know, slow and it's, it paces itself
Starting point is 00:45:29 out and it uses the darkness and all the stuff like with jaws where you're kind of like the threat is off camera and the recesses of your mind and so on and what you discover the rules as you go on are kind of confusing. It's perfect, right? Um, the thing as well, where the logic is, is predominant. I hate a cheap jump scare. It feels, especially when it feels unearned. I hate what it's like the genre of the movie is horror, therefore the neighbor is going to tap the main character on the shoulder and go, hey, their neighbor and go, oh my God, if it was any other genre. You're like a creeping dread.
Starting point is 00:46:00 I hate anything that's just like that jumpscare for nothing. I love a creeping threat, right? Exactly. And so this does some of those cheap jump scares that I'm just like, ah, that sucks. I hate when you're cheapening this, you know, aspect of how it's, the story is playing out. don't need to rely on these if what you have is solid enough. It does a couple cheap jump scares, right? That bugs me.
Starting point is 00:46:25 I don't like it. Whatever. If some folks are like, I want to throw my popcorn when I go see the movie, I get it. But for me, it's, it's a negative. And then the last, and also, there's a couple of red herrings that are like, there's a dream red herring of what the threat is and stuff that just doesn't mean anything. that's kind of like a, what if we had a cool concept image shot, but it doesn't actually have any semblance of anything? I don't know. It's, you know, maybe there's a reading of this that someone can interpret that has a better thing, but there's a dream sequence that leads to a really interesting looking Kojima-esque shot.
Starting point is 00:47:02 But that Kojima-esque shot upon revelations of what the whole movie is and what it's about has nothing to do with anything. It's just kind of like, it was just Kojima going. No. Maybe there's a hidden inference that you're not, you're not. grasping. But it does right now it does feel like genius kajumbo and that's all there was to it, right? And then
Starting point is 00:47:22 this is the hard part to let go here. While I really did enjoy it, there was but there's those applause. The main threat the antagonistic force the thing that it is sucks to me.
Starting point is 00:47:40 I hate it. I don't like the pattern, the thing that they picked to make the antagonist. I just didn't find it that compelling, scary, or interesting or I hated what they picked. And not in a way that's like, oh, I love to hate it.
Starting point is 00:47:56 I was like, oh, that was lame. That this isn't as simple as you go on. I bet I could beat up a 12-year-old. No, no, not at all. Not at all. In fact, that would have been... Oh, because I'm just going off the poster. That's all I know.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Yeah. No, no. You don't know what the threat is, you know? And the revelation of what it is to me was like, oh, that's lame. you know um all right that's that's all i can really say i've had that feeling before and it's a massive fucking bummer it's a it's just like oh yeah like like i don't i'm trying to think of like i don't know what i what what sort of like if you kind of came across you know not the original source material
Starting point is 00:48:37 but like a thing where like a frankenstein monster was like the threat and it was really just like a Halloween Frankenstein monster like you're like wait for real like this that's not this is going to be a strange poll this reminds me of when supernatural crossed over with Scooby-Doo oh did they yeah yeah and it's in supernatural the supernatural guys the brothers have to explain to like Fred that like ghosts and demons are real and Fred completely loses his fucking shit Because he's like, what? We've been chasing after like corrupt businessmen and land developers and we thought they were ghosts. Are you fucking like, hey, ghosts are real?
Starting point is 00:49:21 Are you serious? And then I think too that like, because of how the aforementioned like lands and because of that bugged me, I, there was a part of the movie that I felt was like a really interesting element is like, um, Essentially, there's a part of this where, of course, it involves kids, and part of this is, like, how kids that are in horrible situations cope, right? Kids that are in, like, abusive situations that are... Apparently, they watch a lot of narrative. Yeah, well, there's a really interesting part about, like, you can follow up on this element of, like, how a child learns to cope with a horrible situation they're in, you know? And they could have explored that more, and they didn't, they didn't. pull on that thread enough, you know,
Starting point is 00:50:13 and instead you kind of had the, again, the Frankenstein problem that I just mentioned, you know? I am like, I'm like legit, so brain-wrotted now. I am like, my, my vocal mannerisms have taken damage from the era that we live in.
Starting point is 00:50:30 Because as you described accurately using proper language, the way that like abused or traumatized children's cope, my brain was going, ha-ha, cope. Cope you. fucking dummy yeah my brain goes
Starting point is 00:50:46 to like a bunch of orphans with like a big sign this is cope and and huffing the copium gas I'm fucked I'm massively fucked ruined it's bad um so anyway all that to say that like yeah it unfortunately doesn't like hit like some of those others that have recently
Starting point is 00:51:01 loved a lot of the peel movies and and uh the substance I mentioned again as like you have a subject matter and you pull on the threads you explore it and then you have a bumbastic, hilarious, oh my God, this is ridiculous finale. And here, you kind of lost that in the way you picked a thing and a theme that unfortunately just didn't, you know, but there's a really, there's a great payoff. But it just, yeah, for all the reasons above, it like, I kind of
Starting point is 00:51:28 was like, yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's all right. But, you know, it doesn't, it doesn't quite land. And I know that for others, people have highly recommended it. I know some people fucking loved it. I've seen people talk up this movie very big. And, you know, I, yeah, it's, it's just not quite hitting. Very big. You know, that way. But it is, it is worth seeing for the crazy shit that's going on in it, you know.
Starting point is 00:51:51 It is worth seeing, but, um, so horror movies are an unfortunate genre in that, um, they have the highest threshold for trash. They're the cheapest to make and they have the widest range of any genre. so they have the most the horror has the worst trash to quality ratio right and um a huge but you're very right a huge proportion of horror is written backwards i want here's here's my fucking ending where we burn down the house with michael meyers in it or or fucking whatever right and then they work backwards right which leads to a disastrous reality in the youtube era which is like, do I want to see the haunting
Starting point is 00:52:37 of Hannah Smith or whatever her fucking name is? No. Do I want to see the cool part of the end where she turns into a monster? Yes. Right, exactly. Hold on a second. Let me just bo, bu, bu, blah, bu, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:52:54 Yeah. Right? Do I care enough to watch smile? No. Do I want to see what the monster looks like in smile? Yes. Exactly. Right. Do you want to watch the Winnie the Pooh horror movie? No, but you just want to see the trailer? Yeah, yeah. Am I going to log in and see Kill Count and see that very happy man, go down the kill count?
Starting point is 00:53:17 Yeah. Yeah. In fact, I'm going to say every one of those like, hey, this is now in the public domain horror movies are all that. You don't want the movie, you just want the trailer, you know. And the people making it are also putting in that much effort because it was like that Winnie the Pooh mask was apparently like awful fucking Etsy or some shit like it was sick you know
Starting point is 00:53:37 yeah anyways anyways so that's how I felt about weapons there's your little spoiler for your review there um yes we will we will talk about 2XCO in a little bit but uh yes been been playing and enjoying um
Starting point is 00:53:57 which we'll now take a break from because it'll be offline for the weekend yeah apparently starting on the third I think they're going to go down early to exactly to tape i saw i saw a really fantastic comment on um on the two x k o subreddit which was like these guys are absolutely out of their mind why they keep having maintenance over the weekend and the game comes back up on like a fucking tuesday with what the actual shit and like the reason why that is is because if you put up the new patch on a friday and the guys go home for the weekend and it breaks they have to fucking come in so they put it out on a monday or a tuesday or
Starting point is 00:54:33 Wednesday so that if it fucking breaks they're at work to fix it that that's the reason i've done some some weekend shift emergency you know network testing uh never a good time uh always high stress but yes live environment testing is uh is very particular um but anyways all that aside um yeah i guess So, a quick announcement. The, I will be jumping back on stream for a special stream tomorrow. Oh, okay. Yes. Welcome back.
Starting point is 00:55:13 I will be jumping back on stream for a special stream tomorrow. Welcome back to the minds, my friend. Yes. A sponsored stream for Ghost of Yote. Oh, cool. Is going down. So tune in. where you'll be able to catch us taking a look at that game
Starting point is 00:55:30 over on, you know, Twitch.tv slash Woolley versus. Wait, is that fucking game out? Not yet, but it's going to be. Is this out tomorrow? I don't think so, but I think the day after that. Oh my God. Dude, that one completely snuck up on me. That's ridiculous. It's about to drop.
Starting point is 00:55:51 I can't. I can't keep up. It's about to drop. So, yes. ghost hay if you will exactly you can catch that we will be streaming on Twitch
Starting point is 00:56:02 and on YouTube oh you're gonna be multi-streaming I will be multi-streaming what are you going to be using a multi-stream I'm curious
Starting point is 00:56:12 testing out options right now actually there are some good sides and bad sides to the different options probably hit you up for advice on how that went yep there's a couple ways
Starting point is 00:56:25 that, you know, like, I'm pairing it down to Restream or S.E. Live, essentially. I hate the fact that it's nice that Restream keeps it simple, but I hate the fact that you can't do the music thing with that versus S.E. Live lets you isolate tracks and send them in different directions, which is really, really useful for the music thing. So I'm probably going to check that out a little bit more. But yes, there will be other things to announce about the channel. in the near future. But for now, here's one of them. We will be multi-streaming.
Starting point is 00:57:01 So you can catch that on either channel, Twitch or YouTube, and possibly other locations going to figure things out. So that's happening tomorrow at 3 p.m. Tune in for a Ghost of Yote. That's Eastern time.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Tune in for a Ghost of Yote hashtag sponsored stream. And then after that, that it'll be back into the darkness for a little bit, back into the baby minds. Um, but I will return, uh, after that with some new discoveries and, and, uh, I'll let you all know. Uh, oh yeah, it's got to be clean. It's, it's got to be clean. So we're going to be PG. Yeah. I got to, I got a, it's going to be a, an experience where, where, uh, children can watch,
Starting point is 00:57:53 right? Got to be able to let my baby watch that. Oh, you have to. No swears during your Yotei sponsored thing? It's got to be clean. But what about the fucking game itself? What about the murder and slashing? Well, you know. For your rated M video game. You can't show titties
Starting point is 00:58:09 but you can cover the nipples with blood and guts. I don't know if that's true. So. All right. Tune in tomorrow for that. What's up? Oh, I am not. Usually I would, but I am not streaming
Starting point is 00:58:27 tomorrow or the day after I'll be streaming back on the fourth and fifth because I just did 30 fucking five days in a row. Yeah, you did. Congrats on the sub-a-thon. Finish that up. Finishing it up with a Banjo-Kazooey death stream, which is
Starting point is 00:58:43 that I beat Banjo-Kazoozui emulated on then 64 on the Switch 2 in a single sitting. Hey, congratulations on concentrating about three years' worth of memes and content generation into 30 days. That was incredible. I looked at the timer and it was
Starting point is 00:59:01 like it did 148 hours in the month so that was a bit incredible plus the podcast days so probably like 160 you have yielded memes that in such a concentrated form. Some good memes yeah
Starting point is 00:59:16 so thank you to everybody who subscribed donated and watched the sub-a-thong very appreciated. So I I played Banjo Kizui yesterday, and Banjo Kizu was a game that I always, seen from afar or seen somebody else play from like a fair distance, and basically reacted with like a seething, blind baby's tantrum, which was I hate that fucking shit, that shit's for idiots, that's just for babies. So I felt it was like a very excellent goal to aim for, which it was then hit.
Starting point is 00:59:52 And so I went and sat down at noon yesterday. finished it around one-ish in the morning. And I feel that, if not objective, my subjective opinions definitely maintained. I was absolutely fucking miserable for 12 and a half hours. Okay. And this is one of the worst experiences I have ever had. playing a game in my life so and you've also like played the the things that have come after right the genre that spawned the games that banjo kazui inspired and really liked that hat in time ukulele
Starting point is 01:00:38 i did not play ukulele okay um i mean well you know i put donkey cong 64 on that list but yeah i just i just played bonanza um which is was just fairly well inspired by banjo casui but the original still is in your, stuck in your craw. Yeah, so there's a, there's a couple things that, that, so I had plenty of time to examine my fields on this, right? As to like, what was actually making me go so nuts. And like, go like, because I became like irritable and shitty and snappy, like right away, like within 20 minutes.
Starting point is 01:01:16 To the past just coming back full steam. Just immediately just like, what, how? What? What? Is there a, is there a memory attached? Is there a lock? No, it's the audio. Go-ho.
Starting point is 01:01:29 It's very, no, no. So it's not that. So I, so Paige, page, when she has a glass of wine, she wants like a wine that's like sweet, but not too sweet. She always describes it as not cloying, just a little sweet, right? Banjo Cazui is cloyingly, absurdly, whimsically sweet. It is
Starting point is 01:01:56 googly eyes on literally every object in the environment. Everything is a tuba. Everything is a low horn. Every sound effects is a honk. Right. That kind of thing, right? It's like Banjo-Kazui
Starting point is 01:02:13 sounds like an entire soundtrack made out of the clowns farting in the basement music from Resident Evil director's cut. But that's bad horn music. That's bad tubas. That's like this is good tubas
Starting point is 01:02:30 and whimsy and vibes. It's island hopping fun and climbing. It is it is like the way that I described it was like the constant use of like the boon bubba horns felt like
Starting point is 01:02:46 the game was like mocking me for playing it. Like that was the emotional content that I got off of that. and on top of that. Yeah, okay, okay. On top of that, first of all, let's actually address that because people were like, Pat just hates whimsy. Pat just hates fun things.
Starting point is 01:03:04 But I know you. I'm a silly person in general. I have this silly whimsical freak dog with busted legs that I go, and kiss all over all the time, right? My issue is not whimsy. Also, I fucking love, um, I love, I love, I love hat in time. And I really, really, really enjoy a lot of like the tonality of like kingdom hearts.
Starting point is 01:03:32 And so, like, I kept, I focused on that when I said kingdom hearts. I'm like, why does goofy not activate me, but banjo and Tui do, right? Is our banjo and kazooey do? Mm-hmm. Right? Like, cause goofy and like gore swirl and like all that shit. Yeah. Like, it's absolutely extremely similar, right?
Starting point is 01:03:55 Someone in the chat is telling me that I hate Kingdom Hearts. They're an idiot. They don't know what they're talking about. Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 are fantastic. So it's the music. It's the soundscape. So I don't think the music is good at all. I think there's like one or two good tracks in the spooky level in the middle of the game,
Starting point is 01:04:17 the mad, the ghost mansion. The one that looks like Luigi's Mansion. Okay. Right? I mean, Frank, Kirk Hope, rare. Yeah, okay, okay, okay, okay. Okay. I think the music is awful.
Starting point is 01:04:33 I think the low tuba, like constant fart music just sounds like garbage. But that's fine. It's the soundscape. It's that every single movement, footstep, Item, character, musical element, everything is constantly making clown noises. The game is so loud all the time, and every single one of those noises is personally, like, annoying to me. So, like, the move where, I forget what's called something, something trot, but the move where, like a kazooie puts her feet down
Starting point is 01:05:22 and you run around and you're way faster as kazooie yeah yeah yeah yeah every single footstep is like a clown shoot yeah yeah yeah every footstep was like oh it's fucking so annoying so like
Starting point is 01:05:37 okay the whole game every sound effect in the game made me like wince with annoyance okay so which is like there's no getting better no actually just started to get more tired. So I would actually just, I started out, like, like, like, screaming, crashing out over how, like, overstimulated and infuriated I was.
Starting point is 01:06:02 Interesting. At, like, once a level. Okay. And then, and then at a certain point, I just got too tired. It's, it's like the clown equivalent of, like, a guy eating one inch from your ear with an open mouth. Okay. constant, constant, constant, constant.
Starting point is 01:06:22 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, constant, it never stopped. So I guess, so this is interesting because the soundscape you're describing just did not annoy me at all. And there are other games with a very strong soundscape, as you described, that I, part of the reason why I love those games is because of them, right? Yoshi games and Kirby games, I also love because of exactly that. There's a sound to everything that is very cozy and enjoyable. But I've experienced... Okay.
Starting point is 01:06:55 Like, I love Kirby music. I think Kirby music is fantastic. And I'm also playing Lisa, which also has farting clown music. But the farting clown music is built into a track for a random battle. And then after the random battle goes back to ambient fucking desert calm music. It is. So, again, like I said, this specific... instance doesn't bother me
Starting point is 01:07:19 but I can't think of a time where a sound scape so to speak annoyed me like aggressively I remember specifically that here's the pull um fucking mignon Burt from
Starting point is 01:07:35 King of Fighter's maximum impact two is a character who every footstep she takes has a boop boop boop kind of sound effect to it like a little you know whatever cartoon Tootie, like, little whimsical... No, you know what it is?
Starting point is 01:07:51 You know, when you're fighting Iguess in English and Persona 4 Arena? My armor? Every time you hit Igas, she goes, my armor! Right? Now, imagine that sound clip made you, like, really, really, really annoyed. And that was every sound effect in the entire game. So the set... But you see, my armor didn't bother me. I thought it was silly, but
Starting point is 01:08:11 I thought it was just like a goofy dub where in Japanese, we don't speak it. Therefore, it just sounds... kind of normal or you can dismiss it if you hear someone go like you know or whatever but in the case of Mignon Bert every step she took on the ground while you fought against her
Starting point is 01:08:29 or played as her was annoying to me I could not stand her entire thing I can't stand fighting Athena and King of Fighters Psycho ball, psycho shit Psycho-sa it's so annoying Yes exactly exactly
Starting point is 01:08:42 that so I can get there So that's part Part one, right? So, like, like, people have, I've been talking about this for, you know, I've just talked about this a lot yesterday, but people mention, like, the type of boop-boop-boop sound effects that, like, people in Okami used to speak is, like, annoying to them, so they turn those sound effects down. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:09:03 There's, like, a wide variety of things, right? Which is how badger because of weak characters talk, by the way. Yeah, it's usually not, like, every single part of the game's entire soundtrack. Okay. So that explains why I, like, every time I would see. Banjo Cazui, I would just get mad. Okay. Like, I would just, I like, every time I would see Banjo Cizui, I would therefore hear
Starting point is 01:09:25 Banjo Cazooey, and I would have like an internal, like, emotional reaction. Okay, okay. That's the thing that makes me feel really bad inside. It's actually fairly similar. I cannot, I have to date, never met a single person that understands what I'm talking about when I talk about Frank Sinatra. Now, I don't even want to get into this. We're not going to get into it.
Starting point is 01:09:51 But the point is, is that every time I hear Frank Sinatra, I start to become, like, irrationally upset because I start to get, like, anxiety and tension, and it makes me want to fight someone. Like, it's immediate. It's like I'm hearing, like, a fucking brown note. It's nuts. And it's not the songs, right?
Starting point is 01:10:12 It's, like, because I'll listen to, like, covers of Fly Me to the Moon or send me sending the clowns or whatever. It's literally just his voice. And then I've seen him in his speaking voice. And his speaking voice also does that to me. Yeah. Like something about like the cadence or timor or something in his fucking voice.
Starting point is 01:10:30 It makes me go nuts. Okay. I will meet you there. I will meet. I will see where you are. And I will meet you there because while I think that's crazy because I think Frank's not just totally fine, although cruding is not. There's a, there's a,
Starting point is 01:10:43 cruding in general can be a lower effort. way of singing or whatever. It's not about that. I feel the exact same way about Bob Dylan. I think Bob Dylan is a terrible vocalist who is popular for no fucking reason. And every time I hear his voice, it drives me crazy. It sucks. I hate everything about Bob Dylan. He's the worst. And he makes me irrationally upset, especially because of how big it is. Like, it's fucking crazy how bad he is at singing. But it doesn't matter. There's a giant career behind it regardless. really all of it for years as a whole career
Starting point is 01:11:21 fuck off that's the start of banjo which is like this is a really difficult thing to move past because it's like the whole soundscape there's a level I'm going to have to look it up there's a level in the middle of the game uh banjo
Starting point is 01:11:37 Kazoui mansion level. There's a level in the middle of the game. It's called Mad Monster Mansion. Okay. Right? Mad Monster Mansion was a very strange situation because I loaded into Mad Monster Mansion, which is, by the way, Hatt and Time, like, takes a lot from Mad Monster Mansion. Like, that whole spooky area in Mad Monster Mansion in Hat and Time is basically Mad Monster Mansion from Banjo Kuzui. Okay. So I came into there, and I immediately was like, wow, this music is really good. and this level is really good
Starting point is 01:12:11 and when I was playing Mad Monster Mansion I was like wow this game's really excellent for this one level only and it turns out it's the only level in the game that doesn't have the horns that they use on that sound font because they changed it for the theme and it's all spooky Luigi's Mansion style music and I was like oh my God
Starting point is 01:12:35 it's like I'm literally being fucking triggered by the sound font in this fucking game. Did you ever play Star Fox Adventures at all? I did not. No, okay. Because that's another game that kind of hits into this, like, it has this kind of whimsy and all this stuff that we're talking about thematically going on with it. But because it's based on Star Fox, there's Star Foxy sounds and music and whatever.
Starting point is 01:12:57 In the middle of your goofy characters in the world and so on. But if they just picked a different, yeah, a different, like, sound font or like MIDI set or whatever the case is, When I heard Banjo Cazooey's music in Smash Bros. I was like, oh, that seems like a good track. Huh. Interesting. And so... And the platforming and level and gameplay, none of that. No, no, now we're going to get to the rest of it.
Starting point is 01:13:21 Yeah. Also, I've described myself as somebody who's really specific about how I want my characters to control. I like my characters to... So me and Paige played Resident Evil 2 Classic the night before. Both games came out in 1998. Both games have terrible controls. the differences is I love one and hate the other
Starting point is 01:13:39 and the reason why that is is because Resident Evil controls insanely, insanely stiff but it always does what you tell it. Banjo Kanzui controls super, super loose and has momentum
Starting point is 01:13:55 on it and does not always do what you tell it. All your motions have wide swings. All your running has like inertia coming to a stop. Everything's really slippery. I hate slippery controls.
Starting point is 01:14:11 Okay. I fucking hate it. I kept saying this bear's so fucking loose. Okay. Okay, no, no, that's fair. That's fair. The platforming requires precision
Starting point is 01:14:21 and getting the hang of 3D platforming back then, especially. That was a whole new world. And there are moments like that. And I was like, oh, this must have come out before Mario 64. Then I was like, no, it couldn't have. That was a launch game.
Starting point is 01:14:35 No, no, no. two years later, then what's your excuse? Because Mario 64 controls like a dream. Well, I mean, that's Nintendo's full power. Right. And then I'm like, oh, it's because Mario 64 controls tight and banjo controls loose. Mm-hmm. Right? Like,
Starting point is 01:14:50 and that's like, not aesthetic, but that's like personal preference. Like some people like looser controls, but like slippier or floatier controls. But I hate that. I want my jumps to be short and tight and have like really well-defined momentum. Banjo is floaty as
Starting point is 01:15:06 shit um there and the thing is just like 3d platforming like also again there was a lot of weird no we don't know exactly how to do this um we're still figuring it out games that came out around or before uh mario 64 uh i don't know how you feel about it but like i think megaman legends is a weird is a incredible standout example of like this is a baffling game to feel on the controller i love everything about it and you get used to it and I yeah you get used to it but it's not good right running like like using the shoulders to run around corners and turning in this weird way it's built to accommodate the controls they gave it so it's never a problem but it is weird but the game needs to be played on a grid right right so like i like the people were asking me like what platformers am i used to that this is what i'm comparing them to i'm used to 2d platformers but i'm also used to like my nearest analogs are like Jack and Daxter
Starting point is 01:16:06 Ratchet and Clank and Crash Bandicoot which all have like super tight non-momentum no inertia controls and like
Starting point is 01:16:21 so for fucking like for Banjo Cazooey every level in the game felt like an ice level yeah okay I totally understand and then I got to the ice level and then I felt like I was playing
Starting point is 01:16:33 with like latency right right right um but all of that all of that pales pales in comparison to the thing that actually like made me super upset the most and people are going to immediately go well they change that in the rare replay version i don't want to hear that from you unless you played the rare replay version first because the version that everyone i've ever spoken to who's played banjo Guzoui played the N64 version first. It's a
Starting point is 01:17:10 collect-a-thon game. In order to beat it, you need to get 94 of 100 jiggies, which are the equivalent of storage anyways. And you need to get 810 of 900 notes. No. Requiring 95%
Starting point is 01:17:26 completion to beat your game is fucking nuts. That's fucking crazy. And this really surpliced itself because I'm like, oh, I'm going to beat the whole game in one sitting. And then I'm looking at it and I'm like, what the fuck? I basically need to 100% the fucking game to do it. That's insane.
Starting point is 01:17:45 There's no excuse. Way worse than that. Way, way worse than that is that notes are the equivalent of coins in Mario. There's a ton, there's a hundred notes per stage. They're all over the place. And you need 810 of 900 to access the final area, right? So what is that? like 89%
Starting point is 01:18:03 that's fucking 810 divided by 900 is equal to 90%. You need 90% of all the notes in the game, right? So you run around the stage and you collect the notes and if you die it uncollects
Starting point is 01:18:20 every note in the stage and says that was your note score for this attempt. Try it again. And if you leave the stage it uncollects every note the next time you go in and you lose them. And it is absolutely insane.
Starting point is 01:18:38 It is at, like I play through those levels and I'm like, I don't see like Rusty Bucket Bay is pretty tough. But it doesn't seem as absurd as I heard until I realized that you have to get all the jiggies in like a certain order so that you can get all the hard parts of the stage out of the way first because you have to get 90% of the notes in every stage to beat the game. but if you died any point it will fucking unfucking get your fucking notes
Starting point is 01:19:07 it's unbelievable no I there's no excusing the the boffam dads and collectathon type shit that that just sucks yeah I I can't I can't even mount to defense on that one you know strong memories and nostalgia aside
Starting point is 01:19:21 the bars you have to clear can get really annoyed to switch to and I was just rewinding like fucking crazy because so I technically beat Vanjoucazui with no deaths by technicality because it's like this is a really
Starting point is 01:19:36 like a combination of like floaty controls and lose your progress on every single fucking death feels more vindictive and sadistic than like most of the Super Nintendo and Genesis games that I play see while I understand
Starting point is 01:19:51 the perspective of just fucking do it though that's what it is too bad the thing with I also don't enjoy doing that's my point that's my point my thing is collecting shit in a really uninteresting way sucks in games and I hate it therefore I'm not going to
Starting point is 01:20:07 be like no that's just how it was here when I think it's lame to go collect shit meaninglessly right there's like yeah I totally get it I get it I got through the game I got every single jigging the game up until the last level and I walked in the last level needing like 15 notes
Starting point is 01:20:22 right because I just got everything everywhere and I went in and I'm like wow this last level I will say it's called click clock forest is mechanically interesting is thematically awesome is
Starting point is 01:20:40 absolutely fascinating it is absolutely nuts because in a game with nine levels the ninth level is actually four levels and still still has the rule of
Starting point is 01:20:58 if you die at any point your fucking note shit starts over there is one level in the game that is a full 50% of the game and asks that you do the entire fucking thing without dying in one try shout out to Wiley's Castle it is absolutely fucking miserable
Starting point is 01:21:20 it is way harder than Silk Song like way harder and my reward for that was a fake out credit sequence that lasted eight and a half minutes as a joke and I was like, what? Why? Like way, way
Starting point is 01:21:38 longer than it would be funny. And then a real credit sequence that lasted like 10 minutes and was miserable because it wasn't even credits. It was actually just a name of every MPC in the game. And then I was told by the Ekeem-Bokam guy, hey, dumb shit, you didn't get 100 jiggies.
Starting point is 01:21:55 No secret preview of the next game for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To which I then was informed that the secret preview of the next game was a cut feature that never made it into the next game so it's actually just bullshit I'm remember oh my God what was the thing it was supposed to be a cart swapping gimmick
Starting point is 01:22:16 okay there's yeah that's ringing a bell about something that was previewed and then never existed yeah there's also like visible cut content and secret items through walls you can't get to man so I think you're looking at the is a, this is a game that was right on the transition from, you know, the fourth generation where, like, longevity and gameplay, what you might call it, replayability was just based surely on brute force and difficulty, you know, an old Mega Man game, like I said, and newer games where it's like, okay, you got there, you see your ending, yeah, you're fine, here's extras if you want to go collect these stars, but, you know, you don't have to. Um, like, when we started this. page was with me and she kept saying that like it filled her heart with whimsy as a child and I'm like are you got and like a lot of people in chat were saying that and I just kept asking over and
Starting point is 01:23:09 over and over is that code four turned you into a furry and I just kept getting like increasingly evasive answers I think realistically um a lot of folks are kind of just probably going like yeah I didn't actually beat it as a kid I just played a bunch of this Nintendo platformer a fun barren bird and did some cool stuff and it was it was a fun little rare adventure game but you know hey hey hey hey whoa hey put those back please oh is that an attack that's an attack that was an attempt to scare me oh the light just went out but i'm focusing up i'm focusing up he's lock it in all right yeah um please wife put that back thank you mm-hmm i I think it was, I love you.
Starting point is 01:24:01 I think it's one of those things where it's just like, yeah, you know, we just got some good N64 memories from one of those games. And, you know, the actual, did you get through all of this and collect it all and looking at it with the modern lens? I'm sure there's flaws there, especially not even two-y. You're talking about the first game, right? Yeah, I'm trying to be objective here, right? I really want to be objective. Like, does the game looks gorgeous, like, for its era. Like, it looks fantastic and the levels are huge and super vibrant.
Starting point is 01:24:30 and the character models are really detailed. I think having a I think having a game that's a collectathon that has a draw distance of like 15 character length so that you can't see fucking jiggies from far away
Starting point is 01:24:42 is absolutely nuts. I don't know what the solution of that was but I think they shouldn't have done that that seems fucking crazy because there are some jiggies that are just like right there in plain view but I can't fucking see them because they're not close enough.
Starting point is 01:24:54 That sucks. That sucks. So another thing because what you're saying here is true. Another thing that I think if I'm being real and I'm examining the mirror inside, I think you're also kind of hearing lingering residue
Starting point is 01:25:11 of the N64 defense force kid inside of me, where it was like I was also out there defending Jet Force Gemini. You know, it's funny. There are people in my chat who really like Jets, really like Banjo Kusui that were like, by the way, every complaint you have with the banjo is like,
Starting point is 01:25:29 times a million in jet force and they went way too far yeah and and like it was there was a time when like defending this n64 game and this catalog was part of your identity against Sega PlayStation kids you know and like I was I was absolutely on that side being like yeah well you'll never play golden eyes so too fucking bad you know but you did you always play golden eye because you'd play multiplayer at your friends have exactly right and so on and so that's how it always ended of working out. But there's that lingering bit inside of defensiveness of just like, no, it's cool. Shut up
Starting point is 01:26:03 though, right? That's still a little bit there with some of these weird Buck Bumble ass and 64 adventures, you know. I think the whole exercise is actually really, really insanely confusing and it really boils down to a lot
Starting point is 01:26:19 about like very, like my own personal nitpicks and how strongly I feel about them because I got to the sixth level of the game and was like, wow, this level rules. Yeah, I'm having a great time. This music's great. And then as soon as I left that level, back to, like, abject, anxious misery for five more hours. Because this is, yeah, I mean, like, there's just some stuff, like, if you came after win back, I'd have to come up, I'd step up and have to fight you, you know? Like, it's one
Starting point is 01:26:46 of those things. There's just, there's some shit that, that lands there. But at the same time, I'm thinking of my friend who would actually take a swing at you if you talked shit about siphon filter. People used to be insane. And I'm like... Absolutely insane. Like, fucking, like, what's the deal with you in siphon filter? And it's just like, it's the best.
Starting point is 01:27:07 It's pretty good. Okay, I don't know or care. I don't know. I've never played it. I don't know. I don't know. I'll tell you. Like, Siphon filter's pretty good, but I don't think it's good enough to start a
Starting point is 01:27:13 fucking fight over. I mean, swinging at you, you know? Gabe, Logan is, is all right. Don't talk shit about siphon filter. That's how he said it. He said, syphon filter. Oh, damn. Anyways.
Starting point is 01:27:28 Yeah, no, I beat it. And I was informed that Banjo Tui does not do that weird shit with losing notes on death. And that they give you a ledge grab in Banjo Tui because there's like a million platforms in Banjo Cazooey that like you can just barely hit. But no, it's not good enough. And I'm like, wow, that sounds way better. That sounds like they are aware of the problems that Tiny Pat would have had. much back in the past. But apparently Tui has, like, other problems with, like, being too big and stuff
Starting point is 01:28:02 like that. It is weird that, like, these games came before Donkey Kong 64, which, you know, is its own slate of issues. But overall, the genre of rare-esque platformer, you know, is a cool one that, like, that's why, yeah, like games like ukulele and Manhattan Time came and people still harken back to that and the era of just putting a bunch of goofy eyes, googly eyes on random objects, you know? It's a vibe.
Starting point is 01:28:30 I guess, I guess, oh my God, stop top. My chat's been infected with the word ass womb. And like, like, people just, every time I see it, I'm like, ugh, ugh. Is that like a bussy? Like, yeah, it's like a bussy. Okay, yeah, yeah. It's like the womb. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:28:49 Anyway, so now I've infected all of you. I feel like I know food analogies are the worst but so I live with somebody my darling wife who loves pickles like she would eat a whole jar of pickles and drink brine right she loves pickles right
Starting point is 01:29:11 if I were to have to eat a pickle I would throw up on the floor like I think they're the most disgusting thing in the world and I live in a world in which people were like dude I can't I'm so happy I could cry that that jar of pickles got in a smash bros and I'm just like I don't fuck it I couldn't get it and then my solution to that was I will spend an entire day eating pickles and I came away going wow I hate pickles more than I ever could have imagined with modern with modern context no understanding at all I only felt more strongly about my original feelings was page super into like, did she grow up with like Polish delis or like smoked meat places around? No.
Starting point is 01:29:57 No, smoke meat's unique to Montreal, man. Okay, because, because mustard and pickles are like a feature. Like salt, man. Vinegar-y flavor, yeah. She's just crazy for salt. But you get a whole, you got a pickle and you get a whole lot of mustard with like a smoke meat sandwich. I'm just like, oh, is that like a part of, you know, anyway, all right.
Starting point is 01:30:15 Yeah, it is, it is, it is that. I think, you know, I think the fact that you were able to. pair it down to this soundscape just grates at you is a, that's a particular accurate feeling. And like there's no escape because people like turn the sound off way. I'm not going to fucking turn this fucking sound off on a
Starting point is 01:30:34 12 and a half hour LP. You know, like that's fucking insane. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, Paige says she grew up with an incredible deli nearby. There you go. There you go. There you go. Smother that shit in mustard is the direct quote. oh yeah no it's it's like it's one of those things so a lot of people's personalities are very different obviously right we're all different
Starting point is 01:30:59 people we all have different places i'm the type of person that i have i used to be really really picky about everything right it was extremely picky about food it's all that stuff but then it turned out it's like i wasn't exposed to enough food right so now i have a much broader palette right but there are things that i can look at and go food or film or music or whatever and I can see it from a really far distance away and go yeah I don't think I would like that and you get into that situation where your friends or your loved ones are like oh you should try you should try it and what do you do you try it and you're like man I was fucking super right I don't like that no no you got to get used to it okay oh wow I hate this now so
Starting point is 01:31:45 much that I resent you for asking me to keep trying it. Yeah. I, as you know, I love the new experience. I love the novel. I'll always be willing to adventure on the menu. Um, just to know and mark it down and go, I know how I feel about this, you know. Um, but, uh, yeah, I'm just, I'm trying to think of like reasons like that that I've like hated a game where I'm like, Just something that's just intrinsic and inescapable that is... There's only one person I know in my whole life that has anything close to it. And it is actually my wife, Beach Saliva. Super Giant Games being Bastion and Hades specifically,
Starting point is 01:32:29 something about those soundtracks make her unable to think. If I play Hades with the sound on, she's like, I literally can't even think you have to turn. it off because she's enjoying the music no no no it scrambles her thoughts like a neuralizer whoa even with the vocals and stuff oh yeah absolutely oh interesting i wonder why it's it's like you ever you ever see people uh like when you speak when you speak their own words back to them as soon as they say them and how it just turns your fucking head off yeah yeah yeah that that's what it is we were talking about banjo and she's like
Starting point is 01:33:13 I love that music so much. I'm like is that the music that's playing in your head day to day? And she's like absolutely that's the soundtrack of my wife's life. It's something similar to the banjo cosuit soundtrack. And it makes sense because then I watched her fall down and have like a bunch of batteries fall everywhere. Okay.
Starting point is 01:33:31 What I think of banjo music my brain starts playing a track but it's actually playing Goron music. It's actually playing like the which is really like one step over, you know, running around in the Goron village. But yeah, okay. Well, yeah, so that was my experience with Banjo Cazui.
Starting point is 01:33:52 I'm definitely not putting Banjo-Tooey on any goal ever, ever, no, I'm not doing that shit. No, no, no way. No, thanks. Also, I will say, dude, aside from all of that, I think googly eyes on every asset you could make as an item or enemy is shit. I think it's fucking boring and lame and stupid. But I will give ukulele's googly eyes that attach to things and make them come a live enemy a fucking thumbs up because that's really funny.
Starting point is 01:34:22 Yeah, you know, at the time, it was, it was fine, it was cool. No, I disagree because I would have said the same thing at the time. I just wouldn't have been as eloquent about it because I was a child. You ever see, did you see that little, that, that, that, uh, meme or whatever of like, someone playing Mario 64 and they're just walking in the first area into the castle in a straight line and then across the bridge and it just goes, this game sucks. And then the next one is someone jumping, flipping, landing on the corner of the bridge, flipping and then running into the main door.
Starting point is 01:34:55 And it's like this game fucking rules. Yeah. Like I'm just reminded of that with some of these old games where like part of it is just running in circles with the bird and going, yeah. And just there's a little bit of like playing in the sandbox. I'm a happy, funny, bird and bear, woo. Basically. And, like, instead, like, Paige came into the, into the office to bring me some food,
Starting point is 01:35:17 and she opens the door and hears me going, I could put a gun in Banjo's mouth and kill him and feel nothing. Also, hey, for real, though, like, this is the most biased shit ever. Banjo can suck a shit. Kazui gets everything done in that game. Kizui's great. Because, like, that game should be, instead of being banjo. Kazui, it should be Banjo's fucking dead,
Starting point is 01:35:43 play as Kazui. Yeah, you're pinky in the brain. You know. It's not even close. It's fucking crazy how not even close. Kazui's, because he's great. Absolutely. Yeah. Okay. So he's all right. Also, the game over where
Starting point is 01:36:01 Gruntilda gets super hot. Oh. That should have been the ending of the game. Right. Right. Right. Right. Like, you shouldn't, you shouldn't make a game in which the game over is like a better than the actual progression. God. I feel like I've seen that a million times at the McDonald's play place
Starting point is 01:36:19 the kiosk as well. Because that was one of those games I didn't have as a kid to it so I just I'd play it like there or on rental or you know at other people's houses. All right, fair enough. Also there's a weird amount of quests where you shit in someone's mouth in that game. like weird
Starting point is 01:36:42 you just like because when you fire the eggs you just yeah you lay an eggs fart noise and he goes I mean you know every Yoshi game is really scatological if you want to put it
Starting point is 01:36:53 in that terminology you know then I don't know it's weird you're just hey I gotta take a quick break when we get back I have better things to talk about BRB
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Starting point is 01:45:28 the other day, the classic 1998 horror game with the twist that Paige was playing it with the controller in her hand, and I was using this blindfold I got off of Amazon, which I only realized was a sex blindfold when I
Starting point is 01:45:44 arrived in the mail. I was about to say, I was like, okay, I'm like, you're over-explaining where you got the blindfold a lot right now. Why are you? Because I saw him with the blindfold had like a nose. Because the moment... Oh, that seems really convenient.
Starting point is 01:45:59 The moment you held up that satin blindfold, I was like, oh, oh, this convenient blindfold, huh? Oh, dude. Oh, man. Well, all right. On top of that, on top of that, I had never even put... I had not put it on here, so I didn't see how strongly reflected light off the fucking... Yeah. Oh, that's a soft satiny material, you know?
Starting point is 01:46:24 Well, it was very nice. Yeah, yeah, okay. So, you know, that over-exploitation aside. So, yeah, we played that. That was a fascinating trip down nostalgia. Hey, I heard you fucking crushed it and created some great content there. So one of the, so the idea was, so by the way, Kaiser Mario, a guy in my chat was the one who said it like two months ago. I was like, man, I've always wanted to see a stream where Pat tries to guide page through R2 blindfolded.
Starting point is 01:46:51 And I'm like, oh, that's such a better idea that I would have ever come up with. oh my god so i immediately started putting it into into a plan future down the road um so i used to say that i was totally obsessed with risen evil too and i would play it in my head whenever i got bored and people would usually interpret that to uh reliving memories of playing the game or you know thinking back to various things but when page was behind the controls and trying to learn down tank controls and RE2 throws you in a room with enemies when you hit start right I'm like okay pause the game
Starting point is 01:47:28 all right first of all your handgun has 13 bullets what you're going to do is you're going to run forward but there's going to be two guys directly in front of you so what you're going to want to do is turn to the right 90 degrees run up onto the sidewalk turn left to the 90 degrees run forward then run past the newspaper the newspaper stand then you're going to take a left and you're going to go down when you go down left on the corridor
Starting point is 01:47:48 there's going to be guy hugging the left side of the wall that's Claire's left. But then you're going to be there's going to be a guy hugging the right side of the wall on Claire's right so you're going to want to do a little S
Starting point is 01:47:59 until you get the thing. That kind of thing. Hell yeah. And so like, so the reason why this works particularly well of blind leading the blind is that Paige, even with her glasses, does not have particularly good eyesight.
Starting point is 01:48:12 Right? So we would run into scenarios which were I could hear the room she was in and ballpark her position like in particular there was like a moment when she's like on the second floor of like the RPD in the big lobby and she goes up a ladder and I go all you have to do is not go through the double doors and then I hear her run and I go are you standing in front of the fucking double doors right now
Starting point is 01:48:38 and she's like no and then I hear her character turn around we talked about down down to remembering door colors yes I Item amounts, item placements, et cetera. And the back and forth between somebody who is not used to tank controls, right? But essentially it has like a really strong blind strategy guide. In particular, there was a moment, though, that I got a puzzle solution wrong for my memory. And then as soon as that happened, I just went fuck and totally froze. Because it was a visual puzzle solution.
Starting point is 01:49:15 And I just went, well, time for you to fucking figure it out on your own, I guess. Because I don't remember. I got it wrong. Whoops. Damn. Okay. So I remember years ago We talked about this
Starting point is 01:49:24 Either might have been on Friendcast Or like years before when we were in person But I remember yeah You're talking about playing Ari in your head And like just like running through it While I'll go While at work right Like I'm gonna I'm gonna start
Starting point is 01:49:39 Working on the fucking under Two hour speed run record come on And let's go And I remember because I was like Yeah the the version of that That I think of is like I lab in my head You know
Starting point is 01:49:51 when I'm in when there's a particular game that has like a lot of interactions and there's different potential routes I do I run through potential things in my head for like that's tough because you're having like you're having to like mentally track like character weight and combo decay so no not so much so I did this recently right so I was I was brain labbing to XCO a little bit where in the corner I'm like okay at the end of this combo I can do a knock to the ground call all in an assist that relaunches, and then I can end with another super, or I can go for a reset. And if they tech forward, they escape, but if they tech backwards, I can jump and air throw them. And, you know, and I was kind of going like, okay, but what if they hold down and they never tech? You know, and so I'm just thinking, you know, you kind of go through these, like, what if I do this? Could this work? Could that work? And so, and sometimes me and Reggie would just sit in the airport and go like, oh, what about that,
Starting point is 01:50:44 you know? And then you go back home and then you try out these things. You go like, question, question, question, question, and then you go try and see if it actually works right but running through the um the the full r e experience like is this the game that you have this down the most with yeah no this is the one okay this is the one uh and since we hit our sub goals uh the other game that we're going to be doing this with is shadow the colossus after we're done with resonable too okay well game that hold on this is the this is the so r2 is a game that I know fantastically well.
Starting point is 01:51:17 Yeah. But more than that, Shadow the Colossus is the other side of the coin. Page has never, I can't believe this. She has never seen Shadow of the Jesus. Wow. Okay.
Starting point is 01:51:31 Okay. That one is sent. Not even, hold on. To the point where when I said, I was like, oh, I'll, you know,
Starting point is 01:51:44 I got to think about the Colossi, before we do that. She looked at me and for real what there's more than one and I'm like okay, no, this is the level.
Starting point is 01:51:54 This is the level of like, mm-mm, right? That's incredibly surprising because Paige, like just through osmosis, this game had a big impact on the industry.
Starting point is 01:52:05 Yeah, but if you passed it, if you passed that era, it just went into the classics era. That's interesting. So that one is a game I know pretty well. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:14 But it's somebody who doesn't know And you know what? Nothing. But that's okay because it's also a game that like it's... It's made for humans. Yes. And there's the challenge is, is, you know, not getting there. It's solving it.
Starting point is 01:52:29 Right. Woolly, look me in my eye. Look right at the camera. The problem will be getting it. Okay. But there's a button. There's a button. There's a button that tells you how to get there.
Starting point is 01:52:44 Wully. have you have you like had to meet page somewhere and you see her walk into the new space oh there's no math enthusiastic happy but lost
Starting point is 01:52:59 okay okay that'll be interesting so that was that was fun we're going to continue to do that I had some predictions oh hey hey hey come on
Starting point is 01:53:12 don't turn the lights out me. You know what? This is all right. I appreciate this new form of warfare. So that was a sub-goal. We actually had to have Paige stop-fucking with the lights because I almost pissed my pants playing Alan Wake. I was
Starting point is 01:53:28 playing Alan Wake at like 1230 at night streaming it in a spooky, scary area. And she did that to me a couple of times. I legit almost pissed my pants. Oh my God. We need to put a stop on this. I'm going to die of a heart attack. But one of the sub-a-thon goals was release her from her
Starting point is 01:53:44 from her torment, she is back to fucking with the lights again. I feel stronger about it now. That's good. That's powerful. I like that. But it was one of those things where it's like, I know R2 fairly well and I know people interacting with tank controls
Starting point is 01:54:00 fairly well. And it was like the hardest room in the game is going to be the first 30 seconds. Like, like, because R2 drops you into a room with enemies and says, learn tank controls. How? I was correct. was correct that the first like 10 minutes the game took us two hours the remaining stream was a brisk
Starting point is 01:54:22 clean pace how do you think this would go with silent hill too uh bad really bad right getting lost really bad getting lost as part of that game so no not just that um silent hill has a huge amount of space resident evil one two three have really small areas is like the the pre-rendered background actually obfuscates how small the areas in those games are okay their hallways okay they're l-shaped hallways or a square or a t route like they are really fucking small and as a result you can go like oh i know where it is but also silent hell has a map it does but i but i'm also thinking of the like like resident evil being indoors and a you know versus like the outdoor parts of Silent Hill
Starting point is 01:55:13 where you're just like, where the fuck am I going? I would never trust my wife to navigate us through the fog in general. Okay, okay. Yeah, fair enough. Like at all, let alone in a spooky horror town. Speaking of a Silent Hill spooky horror town,
Starting point is 01:55:35 I beat the new game, Silent Hill F over the last week. so silent hill f stands for silent hill for women for girls yeah bring it back hill f is about women it is women women women women like more real it's about it's about it um it is uh I don't like men's no more it is really fantastic it is extraordinarily well written it is really weird and by weird i mean obviously it's a horror game there's a bunch of stupid goofy shit that happens in it right but like it would have been so easy to have a silent hell game take place in japan and oh no i'm feeling i'm gonna pass out and then what do you hear air raid sirens and then everything starts turning into barbed wire and chain and guts there is
Starting point is 01:56:34 i'm on new game plus now and i'm streaming new game plus because new game plus and this game works like near where there are endings you can only get new game plus and and the cutscenes and enemy placement in the game changes on new game plus is there a true ending that only comes on replay or is it like there's the true ending that you can only get on new game plus okay okay okay okay the only way you can get a true ending is your third time beating the game. Okay. I have a very important and obvious question. Does she, can you, does, do you eventually, you know? You should be the game and start the new side quest. That was only there on New Game Plus. Because I know how I beat Silent Hill 3 and I'm like, if this blonde fucking idiot,
Starting point is 01:57:29 it does take place in a rural Japanese town. It sure does. Doesn't. it, you know, and I'm like, if this dumb girl can fucking figure it out and slay gods, then I better be seeing I better see judgment. Not quite, not quite, but you know, that becomes the new game
Starting point is 01:57:47 plus goal. Let's go. Okay. And that is tying into the endings. So, I'm not 100% sure how. But get that is important. Cool. Hinako is so strong.
Starting point is 01:58:03 she might be like she's like up there with like fucking Isaac from dead space in terms of like personal resilience she's so strong okay like I notice has a dash that is that moves farther and faster than bloodborns I remember a time when the discussion around Silent Hill was always that the protagonist should be struggling because it should be about surviving the horror and barely keeping up. And I'm going to assume that a number of dog shit games later, fuck it, just make it fun to play. Just kind of broke through. Okay. So I'm because what you're describing with her being really good at fighting sounds like something that
Starting point is 01:58:57 Silent Hill fans from the past would loathe. Okay, I'm going to, I'm going to loop back around to that. Okay. So Silent Hill F is extraordinarily well written. It takes place in the 1960s where you play a teenage girl who seems to be going through some kind of family problem and then falls into the typical Silent Hill scenario of fog plus monsters plus where are my friends, what's going on. The game does an extremely good job of making it so that I beat the game and I'm not 100. percent on what events actually happened. Oh. I can't quite figure out which events occurred as depicted, which events occurred as depicted with
Starting point is 01:59:46 different contexts, which events didn't happen at all, but characters thought they happened, right? That kind of thing. Which events are like definitively metaphor? metaphorical right like just emotional metaphor which things are magic which things are perceived magic right like okay and but does this have unclear does this have a positive effect on the narrative yes because on new game plus that has become slightly clearer okay okay and on new game plus plus it will be clearer still okay great yeah um new game plus it's it's very strange that
Starting point is 02:00:33 they talk about New Game Plus before I talk about the combat, but I will circle around. New Game Plus adds new encounters, it changes ambient dialogue, it changes cutscenes, it allows for the unlocking of new endings. It is a second run. It is very much a near-automata style.
Starting point is 02:00:55 Like, no, keep going. In particular, there's new notes, which are like a good example is, finding someone's diary, right? And here's what they wrote in their diary. And then in New Game Plus, you might find that diary, but it's the extra pages at the end that are the really shitty things that they really felt.
Starting point is 02:01:14 Right? Then as to her combat prowess, Hinako used to be on the track team. Good to know. And that is the explanation for her ridiculous physical prowess. Okay. She has a blood-borne dog. she has a
Starting point is 02:01:34 which time blood-borne dodge if you dodge at the last second it refills your stamina to full and gives you a slowdown like full on flash step wow okay okay she also has
Starting point is 02:01:47 the ability to attack enemies like enemies will have like a slight flash before they attack with certain attacks if you do a heavy attack before that you will run up
Starting point is 02:01:55 and she will just bash them and counter through their move so Hinoco is strong Hinoco is capable and Hinoco gets way, way, way stronger. By the end of the game you get really good at the combat.
Starting point is 02:02:13 Like you are just trouncing on enemies. You are styling all over them and they throw some massive gauntlets of enemies at you. Right? And one of the themes
Starting point is 02:02:28 that I've started to take away from it is that I was discussing with people is that the back half of the game has a really large amount of combat it has a it has like an astonishing amount of combat unavoidable combat
Starting point is 02:02:44 yeah absolutely unavoidable combat like it will lock you in a fucking room and force you to fight like a devil make cry game or a soul's game and it gets really it gets to be a lot and it's kind of a downer
Starting point is 02:02:59 and I was playing on hard mode which is actually genuinely very difficult and I am of the opinion that this slogganing of the back 20% of the game is important because Hinaco is really strong
Starting point is 02:03:19 but through the elements of the game she gets stronger but she gets really tired of having to fight all the time everywhere she goes every time I had to go do an objective I had to fight about it but by the end of the game
Starting point is 02:03:37 I'm like I really just want this over with but I have to fight about it and the character is getting more and more and more fed up like legitimately visibly frustrated with the amount of combat that they are having to go through and I believe that is a metaphor for women
Starting point is 02:03:54 okay and that's the type of thing like we have a game where they're willing to like play with is the game fun to play in order to make the point they are trying to make. Okay.
Starting point is 02:04:08 I thought you were setting up or implying a thing where the first time through you're kind of avoiding the conflict and then the second time through you get stronger and can then defeat things. So I avoided conflict in the beginning and then I got better at it
Starting point is 02:04:23 and then they forced you to get better at it. And now that I'm going through New Game Plus, I am sailing through encounters that I avoided the first time. Because I am stronger, but I believe there is a metaphorical grounding that Hina Coe is also supposed to be stronger on her new game, plus which may or may not actually be happening. Okay. So basically... There's a lot going on in this game.
Starting point is 02:04:47 This game has great writing. So when, uh, so women out there, what you're saying is when your boss is being misogynist and shitty, you need to wait for the white flash and ESEN him. and that's the way to you know break through and find your find your
Starting point is 02:05:06 promotion I'll give you I'll give you a very direct example right there's an enemy in the game so none of the enemies are named right but there are
Starting point is 02:05:18 there's maybe six seven normal types of enemies right one of which is are you familiar with a gaki it's a long looking demon that has like an engorged belly that's G-A-K-I Okay
Starting point is 02:05:31 Right It's people who played SMT Probably Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah Right So Gackies are extremely large Right In this game
Starting point is 02:05:44 They're extremely big And They are the They are they are They look like men But like you know Just with the big belly out And they are
Starting point is 02:05:57 The most aggressive enemy need to chase you. They will chase you by far the farthest of any enemy type. And they crouch and drool and snarl and their default attack is like an up swipe that looks like they're trying to flip up her skirt. Okay. And their grab attack is where they lick all over her face. And then they become throbbing and red. And it becomes very, very obvious that these are just men. These are just how Hinako views adult men. Okay.
Starting point is 02:06:34 Like, the game is for women. Well, I was going to say the, like, it's interesting because, like, I didn't think of, like, because that demon name, that's also the word people say when they call someone like a brat, like a, hey, gacki, like, that's like a small little annoying shit. No, but, um, so, so, at any point in this game, No, I guess it's... It gets really, really good at countering men by the end of that game. Do you have to get on a train at any point and fight off...
Starting point is 02:07:05 You do not get on a train? Fight off demons on a train. No? Okay. All right. This is the past and it's a little too modern, perhaps, but yeah. On top of that, it does a lot of really, really, really interesting stuff. The other world in this game, instead of barbed wire and nightmare shit is...
Starting point is 02:07:23 um it's traditional japanese architecture it's temples and shrines yeah yeah um and in that area you find this person very early you find a extremely handsome older man wearing a fox mask you talk is yeah you talked about the fox guy and he is super handsome super helpful super sketch and then the game goes that dude's fucking sketch and the things that they do with that character are fascinating just
Starting point is 02:08:03 fascinating because I beat the game and I don't know if he was good or bad or fake or real oh you can't are you saying that you can't tell if this guy is actually a good person or not you can't tell you can't read the motivations
Starting point is 02:08:21 of the sketchy dude who might be use he might be a good person but he might also be a piece of shit it's it's not clear i'll have to go i'll have to go deeper into it how about that that's interesting yeah the fact that he's literally actually morally gray and physically colored gray is hilarious that's great that's really good um it's it's it's fascinating also there's like me and me and chat where we hit like this perfect synergy where people were like picking up on details that I wasn't picking up on. And I was like, but in between streams, I started to go into like news articles from the 1960s in Japan about what kind of things were going on societally there because that factors
Starting point is 02:09:09 into the game story. It's incredible. It is, it is, it's better than four. And I don't know where to personally put it between one, two, and three, but it's, it's in there. um it's it's excellent i said this with the remake before but i'll say it again here it's baffling to think we're in a world where conami is now making silent hill games that people are enjoying again yeah i didn't see that coming um it is excellent and i will continue to stream the new game plus parts to the parts that are new i'm going to do some some save game shenanigans in order to cut
Starting point is 02:09:51 down on repeats. It is absolutely excellent. Okay. Not Konami's... Sorry. Very strongly. Not the Konami development team. It was this Bluber or like... No, this is an internal team of Konami with Ryu Kishi 07, the guy who wrote Higarashi and... Uminako.
Starting point is 02:10:08 Right, right, right. Okay. Well, the point more so being that the Konami that was Pachinko mining it, um, bothered to turn its attention back to games. Now, I will say one thing. There's a, there's an element to this. game that I've seen two people just say, which is they are frustrated that Silent Hill F has nothing to do with Silent Hill. That is not true. You are not paying close enough attention.
Starting point is 02:10:37 There is an absolutely 100% definitive link to Silent Hill 1 in this game, despite the fact that it predates Silent Hill 1. Shouldn't that, let's say there was no link. Wouldn't that be okay? It would absolutely be okay. Wouldn't that be more than fine? You know what they don't do? They don't use any Silent Hill classic iconography at all.
Starting point is 02:11:07 They do use some Silent Hill music. One of the themes that plays in the early game is a Japanese classic remix of the Silent Hill one theme. Shami Sen versions of. stuff yeah uh which is very very interesting um they are extremely extremely subtle and careful to not just use the old thing because i know old thing yada yada yeah okay right good good good um there's even a there's a character's name that i could not pull out of the game but i was able to pull out of my own research because it's visually referenced in the game then i had to go find old newspapers and find out what that thing was called colloquially, and it turns out
Starting point is 02:11:54 it was the name of a Silent Hill character. Oh. Like, it is, it is very, very, very, very, very, underneath. Okay. So the, the recipe then is, and continues to be, hey, we know we have properties that people care about. Let's find people that are talented to take care of it and just let them go. Yeah. Be it, Kojima, even if that fails. and now uminiko dude and or well i guess bloomer right with uh with remake okay cool interesting you're your new game plusing i am new game plusing and then i will be new game plus plusing also when you beat the game uh it says hey you beat the game here's the other endings uh do you want to get those other endings here's the conditions oh nice okay
Starting point is 02:12:49 do this don't do this don't do this cool cool nice really good game very good game that's all I have to say about it I can't there's nothing else I can say about it without okay smiling something are we clear to
Starting point is 02:13:07 to jump in to yes sir the news all right so let us let us begin as we as we discussed the insidification. Western game biz is essentially crashed as of today. Once again, I reiterate the difference between the market crash and the soul crash. Right.
Starting point is 02:13:36 They're in the skid. They're trying to turn out of it, but that truck is coming and I see it. Yeah. Because the thing when you buy out a company like electronic arts is that you're hitting a whole lot of people that do give a shit about this buyout, but you're also so broad that you're hitting a whole bunch of people that give no fucks about the details of who, what, or why, you know, um, and you also run into, um, it's really, I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's the most basic level discussion
Starting point is 02:14:11 every time, uh, someone goes like, hey, you know, you support countries, doing shitty things or whatever and it's like the difference is the direct person that did the thing being directly involved in the purchase as opposed to like i don't want to get into a version of this conversation no describe how many companies companies nestling owns of course exactly no but it's just anytime it's a bad faith argument where somebody brings it up or whatever it's like if there's a if there's a person who happens to live in a country that's doing business in this way running a tournament buying a thing or whatever that's totally fine that's a random person that lives in a country versus the government of the country themselves that does the thing.
Starting point is 02:14:51 So what are you talking about exactly? I'm talking about the fact that EA has been set up to have a $55 billion buyout deal. The buyers include the Saudi sovereign wealth fund, the PIF, and a private equity firm run by Jared Kushner. So everybody's focusing on, or a lot of people are focusing on the Saudi involvement, which I believe to be like more sports washing like similar to yeah exactly exactly that sucks but let's let's throw all that shit away let's throw away who bought it away that's not even important to this discussion what's important is that they bought it with something called a leveraged buyout which
Starting point is 02:15:32 means they didn't have 55 billion dollars to buy EA so so yeah there's so there's different elements to it right that to me is like the third step on in the story so to speak the the first one being that like yep the the uh side area had been purchased as the sports washing. We've seen that. It's starting to move. Obviously, we've talked about it in determined. That's Madden, FIFA, etc. Yeah, well, no, but I'm saying we talked about it with the PIF fund, which, you know, what S&K was, you know, one of the ones with a big buyout, but they also invested heavily in a bunch of companies, Nexon, Capcom, Nintendo, EA before this, etc. All of that, those percentages were increasing slowly over time. They're not being disclosed.
Starting point is 02:16:11 And then this also introduces Jared Kushner, who, is got his side of it as well. They're combining to form the, uh, the, the, the, a major part of the, of the, the buyout. Um, Jared Kushner's firm, um, well, rather like, there's a, for anyone who doesn't know, I mean, you can go back not too long. And there's a lot of economics nerd shit to talk about on this. There sure is, um, the takeaways where I'm just me going like, oh, that guy who was involved directly with, apparently, according to reports and whistleblowers, it was involved directly with the Khashoggi murder stuff, was giving the okay for his arrest, apparently, according to whistleblowers and reports, and also was giving counseling on how to
Starting point is 02:17:06 handle it from a PR perspective directly to MBS and stuff. Yeah, rich people murder people. So that all goes down, sure. Um, and then, the point is, is that leveraged buy it. 20 billion of the 55 is debt financing. So that's weird. So they didn't have 55 billion, right? They actually only had 35.
Starting point is 02:17:28 So where'd the extra 20 come from, Willie? From J.P. Morgan Chase. Um, oh, why, who, who's on the hook for that? Uh, that's, that's the bank. Um, and. So who has to pay that back? Oh. Is it the private equity firm?
Starting point is 02:17:43 oh no that that's the company directly that's that oh okay so so willie i want to hire you to mow my lawn but i'm going to give you 50 bucks but i had to borrow 20 of those dollars from jim and when jim asks me for my money i tell him to go break your legs well so unless you can come up with 20 extra dollars so apparently 18 billion of the 20 billion will be is expected to be paid back because it's a cash deal. It's expected to be paid back immediately. And then the rest will be, again, on the hook. So it's debt financing. There's an aspect of this where they're buying it and they're going to have a lot of cost saving to do. Doesn't EA's yearly profit margin not even cover the interest on this debt? Well, you know, that's the thing, right? Again,
Starting point is 02:18:37 there's all these different parts of it. So yeah, it turns out that there's a humongous amount of cutting that one can expect things to get aggressive. But according to folks involved with the deal, the thought is that their operating costs as a company are
Starting point is 02:18:56 going to go down because... You're going to drastic go down. Because a big part of what's going to happen in the coming years is the debt load will be handled by AI. They're going to be able to boost profits in the coming years
Starting point is 02:19:12 as AI becomes a bigger part of EA's operating costs. So you're telling me they're going to double their profits by getting rid of so much staff that it covers up the shortsfall and they're going to have all that staff replaced by robots? Dude, they're going to save so much money. It's crazy. They're going to save so much money. So, yeah, $20 billion of that $55, you know, that debt, then that ability to pay it back, expect to see a massive amount of you know staff fired for that expect to see a bunch of um it's the only way you can get more money now is by not spending money expect any projects that you're hoping to hear more about that are beloved things that are just currently cooking expect a bunch of those to just get tossed i'm sure anything that's not surefire gangbusters billions and he saved is a dollar earned or whatever the fuck then a a l lm it is a penny saved penny
Starting point is 02:20:10 earned, but these stupid motherfuckers actually think a penny saved as a dollar earned. And a water bucket wasted is an AI question unanswered, you know? So, um, yeah.
Starting point is 02:20:26 Let's ignore the fact that MIT said that AI is actually worse at doing all these kinds of jobs than any person. Yeah, sure, you know. We can also... It's actually a net loss. Sure. I like about 10%. You can also ignore the fact that JP Morgan Chase Bank is the bank that that is the Epstein fucking related
Starting point is 02:20:42 bank that there's a ton of yeah there's literally people on that board and see executives that are actually in the emails that fucking have the sketchiest most super disgusting the long and sort of relation is that this is what this is
Starting point is 02:20:57 what happened to Red Lobster Red Lobster got eaten up by private equity and then destroyed because you buy the company and then you saddle the company with all of your debt tear it up and then leave and go oh look they have the debt it's all them it's all they have all they're on the hook i'm out of here yeah shitheads well again i was going to say like if the if the faith in a i leads to
Starting point is 02:21:19 absolute uh waste and nuclear fallout for their the investment here uh it couldn't happen to a shittier bank i could say at the very least seeing as once again that is the bank that bank rolled epstein so good for them if they fucking rot in the process but um unfortunately what this obviously means is we're going to be looking at this massive sports swashing story across the industry as one that is going to accelerate its imminent collapse. I want to bring up again what Giuna said about the FGC side of things, which was, hey, eventually when all this money changes hands and they stop caring and they don't want to play with their toys anymore, and it's fucking the toy story.
Starting point is 02:22:00 They're just going to drop it. Right? When they destroy everything in the process, Jen, just be ready for what happens afterwards. Now with that community, it's like, hey, support. your locals, go to these places, and make these things happen, ignore them, et cetera. What the fuck is the equivalent of support your locals with EA?
Starting point is 02:22:17 They're going to, they're going to run, so what you're going to see is everything that's not Battlefield, Battlefield, Madden, FIFA, and maybe the next Mass Effect game is canceled. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're all canceled. Everything's canceled. Um, it's got it. You're going to see
Starting point is 02:22:32 prices increase on those massively. They're going to really turn up the mini buys and the gambling. Oh, Apex as well on Sims. My mistake. Yep. You know, the big boys. AI generated... They're going to really turn the screws to them. FC 20, you know, and I generated soccer games, you know.
Starting point is 02:22:47 And they're going to slow bleed them by every single year. They're going to be like, well, you have to hit this target. And the only way you can hit that target is by cutting staff. Which means their shit's just going to get worse and worse and worse and worse every single year. The other part of this that's fucking fascinating and is telling of what this, you know, this is all, again, sports washing buyout. We're going to, the whole point of this kind of like confrontational thing is essentially, you know, if we can buy out golf, if we can buy out wrestling, we can buy out the entirety of video games and we are watching that process occur. It's, what's interesting is to switch over to it being private as well. So no investors, no outside, you know, no market here. This is just taking it off the market entirely. No more, no more investor meetings and or people buying shares in the company. They are 100.000. percent holding the entire thing you know so i shareholders are evil and stupid but imagine if instead of
Starting point is 02:23:45 a diverse group of evil and stupid people it was actually like four five evil stuff the fucking the absolute core of it yeah yeah sure you just got the worst of them and just gave them total control just speed run it speed run the entire process um no it really is the kind of thing where it's like every name like every name involved with the deal is just like oh this is just the worst like all three like fucking you know yeah it's it's uh you couldn't you couldn't hand it off to a more depressing uh tri force of of evil shit and uh really interesting to me to see what happens with battlefield because battlefield is made by dice out in sweden and the dice group is the only developers in EA
Starting point is 02:24:37 that have a fucking union because they're out in Sweden where you have to have a union for everything which insulates them from a very significant degree of this stuff so it will probably be Battlefield will be insulated until battlefield is over
Starting point is 02:24:52 until Battlefield is just over because they can't reach any agreements with Dice's union. Yeah. So you know how unions have been getting momentum you know how that's been picking up steam a little bit yeah yeah oh man um i think uh blizzard unionizing it's like right before or during the activation blizzard acquisition was a really
Starting point is 02:25:21 smart move very smart move um there's no reason to assume that like of course we know again the the trusting in the i part of this is the hilarious punchline at the end of it all. Oh, yeah, because, like, let's throw the ethics of AI away is that it's not going to save the money. It's going to cost them time. The thing is, is just the idea that through interest, because everywhere that they've invested a little bit and bought a little bit, the idea is to slowly buy more, you can fully expect to see this continue. And you can expect to see way more companies seeing way more of their shares going to the PIF. and you can basically watch as the entirety of this industry slowly gets bought out.
Starting point is 02:26:12 Well, not the whole industry. I can think of at least one company that would rather die in the ground than sell their shit entirely to Saudi Arabia, and that'd be Nintendo. Yeah, sure. But those guys seem like they would rather burn the building down than sell the company to anything that wasn't Japanese. But they have no issues selling them stocks in the meantime and having them hold on to a percentage. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:26:43 It's a controlling percentage. It's not a controlling percentage, right? But that's what's happening with each of these, right? I literally have the fucking list. That's the trick. You can take any money from anybody as long as they don't have a controlling percentage. That's what's happening with Ubisoft. Or in the S&K case where it was like you buy a controlling percentage from a different
Starting point is 02:27:05 company in Hong Kong that was not even that S&K directly you can just you can buy out the controlling percentage but so like yeah Ubisoft is a really good example because that's coming up this week do you know what the finalization of what's been going on with fucking Ubisoft this week they fucking they fucking finished selling uh Assassin's Creed rainbow 16 all the different all the different parts yeah rainbow and and Splitter sell to themselves
Starting point is 02:27:31 in a shell company that is 100% owned by the fucking Gio, what's a Germo family, so that when the fucking Ubisoft gets bought out by Tencent, they can just go, oh fuck, well Vanguard owns it. We're all quitting and going to work for Vanguard. I guess
Starting point is 02:27:49 they own all the IPs, sorry. Cutting out the IPs is fucking nasty work, man. That is, you know. Um, yeah. But anyway. We shuffled it around. I don't even own it. You don't own me.
Starting point is 02:28:05 it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's in my baby cousin's name actually this business is yeah yeah um so no anyways just what all that to say that um there are percentages slowly increasing uh across the industry that are that have been happening in the background and they don't publicly report on the increase every once in a while you get an update but um this is not the end of this certainly expected to continue um but the I don't know what the landscape looks like for people working at these jobs. It's bad. It looks bad. I don't know. It's bad. Yes. Yes, obviously, that's, that's, it's not, it's poor. Yes, obviously. It's quite, it's quite poor. Obviously, yes. I, I, what I'm getting at is that the idea of like these houses collapsing and people running out of them and holding their resumes and seeing what they, can find a round elsewhere as they run into another one that then gets taken over and then you're
Starting point is 02:29:09 like, well, what the fuck? Like, that's going to get worse and worse and shittier and shittier. Not everybody is going to drop into a team and make some indies. Oh, no. You're going to lose tons and tons and tons of institutional knowledge. So this is, and this is all just, again, if you are somebody who looks at this and goes, yeah, I don't care about who's buying it or how that involves me or whatever the implications. don't worry you will if you if you don't know that these are related because you didn't pay attention but you absolutely will if you don't feel the soul crash then you will feel the market crash it's it's very very you see the two hundred ninety five dollar version of mass effect four that doesn't include the fucking javik is back to life dLC you're going to be like what the fuck why is it so expensive i don't get it's like well because you didn't pay attention yeah how much how much how much is it going to cost to get Christiana Ronaldo
Starting point is 02:30:07 an FC 27 you know to get the card the burner card forum or whatever the case is now I know what you're thinking Willie I know what you're thinking what I'm thinking is you know it sucks that EA is going to make their games cost like a lot
Starting point is 02:30:23 more but luckily for me I'm a subscriber of Xbox Game Pass which is the cheapest and most effective way to play all my games all year. And nothing can change that. I was actually going a different direction, but yeah, sure. No, no, no. That's fine. That's fine. That's fine. I mean, before even that, wasn't, didn't Xbox also get taken off the shelves at, like,
Starting point is 02:30:56 Costco? Like, didn't they just say we're done? We didn't even cover that, dude. Yeah. Costco took Xbox off the shelves. And I, I went and read the specific wording because it made me laugh really hard. It wasn't we were read to say that we cannot find a way to keep Xbox on the shelves. It was, we're not carrying Xbox products on our shelves anymore. Yeah. So that was, that was the bit. But no, we can, we can sort of over here.
Starting point is 02:31:22 The game pass price increases 50%. And the website to cancel your subscription crashes due to a traffic spike. So, it is now $360 a year to play GamePass, which Game Pass's primary user base is guys who play two games a year, being called of duty in that. The entire premise of being like, we're going to save money, actually. Yeah. No, that's good stuff. That's before tax, by the way. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Starting point is 02:31:58 That's before tags. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Combined, just, you know, we always, stories are always delivered piecemeal, but if you were to just combine this with a bunch of the stuff with Microsoft's AI stories from recently and the layoffs and all the, the shit we've been talking about and reporting on, and then the deshelping of them from Costco, things are looking great for Xbox right now. Looking really good. Solid, solid bit. Looking really good. Yeah, the idea of a cancellation website crashing, meaning people are. Unable to get out fast enough because it's too fucking jam-packed is absolutely wild.
Starting point is 02:32:38 So that's something. But no, actually, where I was going to go was because, again, you know, you can't have any light at the end of the tunnel here. As we were talking about the fact that they're hoping AI is going to reduce the costs of this $20 billion debt. it's leveraging to reduce it so much it's going to reduce it to zero when they fucking default well um you know
Starting point is 02:33:08 I'll tell you what uh Japan's got their their feelings on the matter um what's that well uh according to a recent survey over half of Japanese game companies are using AI
Starting point is 02:33:20 and are generatively at that sick great super I bet that's the same everywhere, honestly. Yeah, so there was a large survey conducted by the CISA Computer Entertainment Suppliers Association. And yeah, they reported that 51% of companies are using AI in some capacity.
Starting point is 02:33:49 Some usage includes visual game assets, story and text generation, and programming assistance. So it's some creative work and some. like other um and uh the generative aspects of this of course are what you hope they avoid but in this case they're kind of more or less embracing it but nintendo has said that they're staring clear from it for the time being i wish nintendo wasn't so fucking evil on a lot of stuff because they're the only company that's not evil on some other stuff right yes the way they treat so shitty about price and ownership and copyright but they're so fucking
Starting point is 02:34:35 based about creators making what they want to make and about work and about uh uh work life balance and and time off and you know benefits for employees and treating like like it's almost like we live in a complicated world they hate that it you know what a society even pat oh fuck right so that's why from week to week one week we're fucking shitting on and making fun of Nintendo and then the next week we're like good for them good shit being like we're not touching this AI stuff
Starting point is 02:35:08 right yes that's what that's what it is it's like parenting man it's super fucking you wag your finger when they do a when they do a no no and you give them praise when they do good well they've come out to say that they are for the time being steering clear of generative AI mainly to avoid copyright concerns and well they're currently fighting a bunch of fucking copyright battles right now well as a fiercely litigious fucking company right at least they're being internally consistent at least they're being internally consistent could you imagine a a marathon like fucking texture showing up in donkey Kong in the middle of this pal world shit I like to think that Yamachi's ghost is just fucking just scooting around
Starting point is 02:35:56 scaring people well um maybe you know we used to make playing cards they were real cards just just haunting the new the new president devon pritchard as as bowser steps down it's like yeah i'm leaving because this office is haunted this this this ghost with shades that's a good reason yeah um i found a fucking haunted fucking office i wouldn't work there that's fucking bullshit yeah so side note president bowser stepping down um fine he didn't do anything yeah uh didn't do anything in his tenure so the the thing with this this the the whole uh uh survey though as well is um i think yeah the larion CEO uh vinkie um was kind of describing that like uh what's oh sick
Starting point is 02:36:46 we got brand new good news that's actually shit news okay cult games has issued a statement and clarifying the use of generative AI in Hotel Barcelona, the upcoming slasher roglight from White Owls, Sue to 51, and Swery. Yeah. The team acknowledges that it failed to disclose the AI-generated content available on the new game plus tapes and confirm that a patch is in the works to replace all such content with human-made work.
Starting point is 02:37:19 Here we go. Yeah, guys, guys, you can't, it doesn't, yeah, it's, it's, it doesn't matter in the sense that, you're going, we're entering a realm where it won't be easy to tell anymore, right? And you can't rely on like, well, they're cool. Um, they wouldn't. Fucking, there was a code mystics thing that just popped up. We're like some of their achievements.
Starting point is 02:37:41 There's an arcade machine that looks like super generated. And they said, no, we didn't. Here's the PSD to prove that, you know, these or these assets weren't made that way. But when you look at them, it's like, no, but that really, really, really looks like it. It was generated, though. It's a gibberish arcade console. Awesome. Isn't this just great? Like, I know you're saying no, but look at it.
Starting point is 02:38:00 Use your eyeballs and look at it. That doesn't, people don't. Did you just say eyeballs? Like a New Yorker? So the, so Larry and CEO was basically saying, my stance on AI is really straightforward. It's a tool we use to help make things go faster. We have so much work.
Starting point is 02:38:17 We're happy to take assistance from anything. I don't think it'll ever replace the creative side of things, however, and described how they hire, they solved a bottleneck by hiring, new artists instead of using AI, right? It's really a good sign for whatever industry that you're in that the solution to ever-rising costs is a golden goose. Like, guys, I, listen, I know the farm's about to go under,
Starting point is 02:38:47 but check this out! I got some fucking magic beans! Yeah. The part of this that, you know, the part of this that is already flown the coop and is done is, is the part that is, again, for programming for whatever wrote mechanical purposes, etc. The creative aspect is where you'd hope a lot of these companies would draw the line and not all of them are doing so. And it's probably on a project to project basis, especially if you're in a situation where bottom lines need to catch up, such as everything. we just talked about with EA right this shit sucks it's also creating like a sliding scale of video game morality that I think sucks oh yeah oh yeah yeah yeah's like yeah yeah I need to take another break to pee right because I drank too much of this red bull um but like I want to
Starting point is 02:39:45 talk about Timo after this and like riot is fucking evil they're so evil but like Like, they're less evil than, like, EA and Ubisoft. So I'm, like, unconsciously softening because I think Timo's cool. Well, because you're right. But the thing is, in many cases, you're rooting for the developer that is under the shadow of Sauron. I think the cannons are probably okay. Yeah. I haven't hung out with them.
Starting point is 02:40:13 You have. You think they're cool. Fine. Good, good blocs. Good blokes. You know? Sean and Cockables, good dude. Two XKO folks.
Starting point is 02:40:22 All chill. like them love that they're great people the thing is just the company that is making the game that you like is under the shadow of something horrendous um hey titan fall what the fuck is that now i don't know i spoke to dude i spoke to a guy like five years ago and he was like got some really exciting titan fall stuff coming up and i was like really uh yeah and i'm like how do you know he's like yeah yeah and I'm like cool and then I've never seen that guy yeah well and I've never seen it's spoken him again and uh we know that multiple fucking things got can't nah because here comes the turbulent wind man it ain't it ain't making its way out
Starting point is 02:41:09 of the turbulent wind um anyway uh you you you want to you want to hit that you want to hit that yeah go hit that piss go hit that piss yeah yeah I'm gonna do it oh wait before we go before we go so like when we were doing the when we were doing the blindfolded R2 thing I got up to pee
Starting point is 02:41:33 but I didn't take the blindfold off and so Paige got really mad because you thought I was going to try and piss in the toilet blindfold on so there's a really great clip of me getting up and like stumbling away
Starting point is 02:41:44 and she's just screaming don't piss don't piss don't piss uh right so So today's world of quote unquote con artists by Hirohiko Araki. Speaking about societal evils, I think that as AI continues to spread throughout society,
Starting point is 02:42:13 we're going to see increasingly shady, an increasingly shady world filled with scammers exploiting it. it recently came across, I recently came across a drawing and I thought, is this something I drew? Isn't it? I was shocked to find out it was actually created by AI. When I draw manga, I had subtle personal elements to make the work uniquely mine. But this AI generated piece even mimicked details like the way I draw eyelashes. So precisely, it was almost impossible to tell it apart from my work. If it were based on my recent drawings, I'd know right away.
Starting point is 02:42:45 No, I didn't draw this. On the other hand, I honestly wouldn't be able to tell the difference if it were done of my art 10 years ago, when my memory of it would be a little hazy. The more AI advances, the more this kind of thing will happen. Art reflects the times, and manga is one example of that. Seeing this world of con artists appear in manga could very well mean that we're headed for a future world dominated by fraudsters. This type of evil in today's age will undoubtedly end up impacting manga down the line. Copyright infringement by AI is also a villain that we manga artists must face. The extreme scenario is that AI generated fakes might start being accepted as the real thing.
Starting point is 02:43:25 Even as we try to protect our work, these counterfeits are becoming so accurate and sophisticated that it's no longer a fight an individual can win. Having some laws, some kind of laws would probably be the only way to regulate this. However, because we're dealing with a world of con artists, there's also a very real possibility. that the laws favoring them will appear before we know it. Yeah. Well, at least Ericie is on the up and up. That feels nice.
Starting point is 02:43:56 He goes on to say personally, I entrust my copyright management to Shueisha, which, yeah, but some manga artists are lax in managing their copyrights leading to others using their artwork without permission or even leaking the original drawings. When I see that, I worry they might face serious trouble down the line if they don't take it more seriously.
Starting point is 02:44:13 This is from last year. This is really like the only time I want to say this. But like I grew up and as a teenager was told that me listening to a song, an unauthorized way would be the downfall of society that I would go to prison for the rest of my life, only to grow up and hear that the same people who told me that are like, yeah, I just stole every single song that's ever existed. And I chopped it up. Fuck you.
Starting point is 02:44:40 Fuck you, you little bitch. Like such, it's just fucking bullshit. Such fucking complete garbage. Um, you know, you can just infinitely dive down this shitty, uh, hole. And, um, you know, for every one of these moments where somebody pulls out a magnifying glass and goes, hey, this piece of fucking, um, Kimberly Street Fighter 6 art is generated. Fuck off with that. And then they catch it. You know, there will be suddenly dozens that will be.
Starting point is 02:45:11 suddenly dozens that won't be caught, obviously. This is just, there's no way to avoid it. It's just going to be the state of things. Now, on the plus side, the AI industry is headed towards a cataclysmic worldwide economic crash. So we'll trade this artistic and ethical nightmare for a very real economic one within our lifetime. But it might be slow and terrible for a very long time. Yeah. And you're also dealing with the worst part of this.
Starting point is 02:45:41 which is various lines that different people give a fuck or don't give a fuck about crossing. So, you know, now you have that part of it. Somebody in the chat said that I said that last year. Dude, it took like a decade for the housing market to crash. Like, like, you can see, like, if you're in it, you can see it coming from really fucking far away. But that doesn't mean you can avoid it. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 02:46:11 yeah I guess the you know I don't know like I think we've gotten pretty good at just watching shit be shit for a long time that eventually you can just compartmentalize that you know um and whatever whatever it is as dumb as and as annoying and as bad as it gets there's a point where you just kind of go all right what's happening on my in my front porch what's happening out here in real life like let me just part of the issue with our current dystopian era is that humans were not meant to be connected into world fucking events at all you were meant to be connected into the events of one kilometer around your body and i think i think it's uh one thousand faces memorized used 50 right okay something like that back in the day yeah it's like the the before you start fading off into um stranger territory where you can't remember but yeah no that's it that's all and so imagine than if you would, a strategy of flooding the zone with exhausting like non-stop every day scrolling by the worst shit ever. Yeah, so here comes Timo! Here comes Timo! Wow! Timo looks really good! Wow! Yay! Timo! I clap! I clap for Timo.
Starting point is 02:47:36 So the Timo trailer dropped for 2XCO and some of the funny shit noticed was one, I saw a chat box pop up and I'm like, we were literally talking. I literally said that last week. That's crazy. So that that trailer is genuinely incredible. It is the is the shit post trailer. Yes. Kudagra. And it turns out that Marlon Pye, who also created Yasuo, created Timo. And every time they asked for updates on how Timo's going, Marlon Pye would make a shit post video and edit it like that and send that to the team for. updates on how Timo has been. Yeah, let's do
Starting point is 02:48:13 this as the full reveal trailer. Also for, so I'm familiar with Timo to a degree, both in League and Runtara. Wully, you're less familiar with Timo, but I have described him to you as an enraging toxic
Starting point is 02:48:29 piece of shit with a happy little smile. And here comes the fighting game variation of Timo, the most toxic, fucking cancer fucking fighting game character I have ever seen in my life and every single thing he does is built to cause rage and annoyance and his attitude is so pure and his chip bubbly he's so sincere right as a scout um yeah i mean where do you
Starting point is 02:48:59 the things you see in this trailer are all like they understood much they they understood the assignment and they delivered so one his entire system of uh he's got fucking blow darts that are not a projectile that is a special move it's just a normal his lights his his jab is a three hit project yeah he just spits the shit at you from a distance so they show you him running away and
Starting point is 02:49:23 shooting blow darts and just running away and shooting blow darts um he's got his mushrooms which he kicks at you and and they shovels at you and they bounce on each other and then they poison you and um if you don't if you're not careful even if you're blocking or whatever you're standing in the poison you're getting poison damage nonetheless
Starting point is 02:49:40 he's got a slingshot that he fires the little rocks at various distances, but they can also bounce off the tops of the mushrooms. The mushrooms to change their trajectory, but it can also catch on fire and light the patch of grass on fire that he left behind to teleport in. But if he sits in the patch of grass, he turns invisible and up invisible. I mean, a hundred percent completely invisible. If he just crouches for a couple seconds, he turns completely invisible as well. Um, not to mention when the peck, the grass is on fire, that it can updraft his parachute so he can ride and float in the air as he spits his little fucking shit at you.
Starting point is 02:50:21 Um, there's a, there's a moment in the trailer that is so disgusting and it's like the highlight, which is he puts the grass down and lights it on fire. Yep. Then he calls an assist. Yep. So, Lowy is being pulled into the fire and is blocking it backwards because invisible Timo is crossing her up. And then he's jumping and crossing her up again while invisible. And in the upper right corner of the screen, somebody's going, my grandma could have blocked that mix up.
Starting point is 02:50:48 It's like, no, man. Oh, God. I will block this whack-ass mix-up. I mean, it's, yeah, it's all of that. And it only came out, it wasn't in the trailer initially, but then it became clear when the, some of the people that got to play reported on it. And then there was the gameplay video with Marlon Ply explaining the badge system where essentially all of those special moves, all of those moves he has, if you spam them enough, they get powered up and become stronger. So the player is encouraged to spam the move aggressively and hit the opponent with them as much as they can.
Starting point is 02:51:27 And they get permanently buffed for the rest of the match. So it's like Mano style with the medals. Menau and Hakon, it looks like it's disgusting. So if I blowdard at you and I blowdart you enough, then my blowdart gets better. If I pelt you with rocks and it hits you enough, my rocks get better, et cetera, et cetera. So, like, I get rewarded for being a little shit. Also, he's small, really small. He is by far the smallest character.
Starting point is 02:51:56 That being said, the little tuft of hair on his hat is part of his hitbox. So he's just small enough to be annoying, but he's just tall enough to have everybody these jabs hit him. Yes. And, you know, not cause all sorts of goofy nonsense for the actual way the game works. So we have learned our lessons and fighting games in the past have not given a fuck about character height and just went, uh, here's Pollo the Chicken in Mace the Dark Age. Here's serve bot in Marvel 2 or here's Yoda in Soul Calibur.
Starting point is 02:52:29 And when your character can jab and it just whiffs the short character, it sucks. It sucks. You can't play. It's not about, like, character-specific things anymore. It's like, no, no, no, this just sucks. The things that you're learning to do in this game are, like, suddenly don't apply to this one. You edge case because you're just going to. That's why they show a braham, who's the tallest character in the game, his jab is getting
Starting point is 02:52:54 blocked by Timo standing. Yes. So they basically explained that, like, the whole game is balanced around Timo crouching. That height needs to be enough for all moves to generally work, as they should. You know, you can be small, you can be tall, and what that should do is make it so that you could get hit easier or harder from like jumpings or things like that or so, you know, big bodies and small bodies. But you need grounded combos to functionally work the way they're supposed to. Exactly, exactly. So, yeah, you can't have just buttons whiffing entirely like that, you know.
Starting point is 02:53:27 But no, he looks proper annoying and you can put all the shit together and combine them into a kit that just looks, yeah. Like, and the interesting thing when you're watching it is that nothing is doing a ridiculous amount of damage. Everything is doing little, little bits of damage, because he's just kind of flicking you a little bit. He's running over. He's jumping. He's popping off. And he's just, he has combos that are for real. But, like, no, most of his kit is like, stay out.
Starting point is 02:53:50 No, stay out. Leave me alone. No, stay out. And then you tag into some other shit and you annoy and you annoy and you annoy. You know. It's time for you to start making some mistakes. his super assist is like he flies across the screen just bombing mushrooms all the way across
Starting point is 02:54:10 you know I think the one that really summed it up is they showed off that his assist where he shoots the blow dart twice the blow darts are staggered so that you can like use a character like Vy to like dash through and to get them get something up weird awkward mixups yeah yeah yeah yeah if there's a multi-hitting like beam assist or something like that you have time to do shenanigans um can't wait to punt that little fucker into the next uh the cut of the trailer like he has a parry and he gets like the red like angry dog eyes and
Starting point is 02:54:45 like has a fucking japanese i think that was editing i think that the that's editing yeah no it is but like the the tone of this trailer is absurd but the parry animation being the absolute like street fighter parry is is real you know so um it's so silly and again if you're thinking of this is a marlin pie designs character
Starting point is 02:55:08 from this from the Yasuo you know school it's like he can and should effectively be able to keep and annoy and do incredible things with all of his kit once you're using it all together um but yeah the ability to turn
Starting point is 02:55:24 actually invisible is like that's a real actual nightmarish problem like I don't know actually invisible and he also has like a zero's spin attack in the air with the cross the the spin move that hits on both sides of his body yeah so jump straight up or jump to the right and hit air and have them fucking flip a coin to see if they hit you you know like it's ridiculous I'm curious to see if he's gonna have uh lower health and you know then the average. I'm curious to see
Starting point is 02:55:57 essentially is it going to be a situation where you're getting zoned out, but you have a lot of chances to get in there? It's really impressive how they took every single button from league and turned it into something like meaningful in his kit. Like the one
Starting point is 02:56:14 that I was really unclear about is the one he has his I think is his cue is blinding dart where he blinds the opponent. I'm like, how the fuck are they going to put that in a fighting game? Oh, it's his level three. It's his fucking level three. The blinding
Starting point is 02:56:28 dart is level three so you don't have to actually deal with blinding mechanics. It's just, it's an excuse for him to do tons of moves on you while the character's going, oh,
Starting point is 02:56:34 so in league he turns invisible, but like, in league he turns invisible in the bushes or if he's not moving. Okay, but like, just like here. Yeah, but what does it mean? What is,
Starting point is 02:56:45 does blinding make it invisible to the person who gets hit specifically? No, blinding fucks up their auto attacks and makes it so they can't hit their auto attacks. Oh, okay, okay.
Starting point is 02:56:53 Which is insane, which is crazy in that game. Yeah, I mean you know, the the Valentine needles in Skull Girls like attempted to fuck with your controls but yeah and then he blow
Starting point is 02:57:07 he blow darts, he mushrooms, right? He has all those he doesn't do all those other tools right, like the camping stuff. No, no. That's that's neat. His kit is blinding dart, the dash which is what his Blanca ball is. That's the bandel dash. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:57:23 The dart, the dash. the invisibility and his alt is the mushroom. Okay. And his alt is the mushroom where you just plant them all over and make it an annoying shit stack. The difference is that in, I think his mushrooms go invisible as well in, and
Starting point is 02:57:39 his kit in, um, his kit in, uh, Roontera is that he places mushrooms on your cards. On the cards, right. So when you pull the card out, you're like, oh, fuck, there's a fucking mushroom on here. But you can't make invisible fucking mushrooms in the fucking fighting game. That's ridiculous. So instead, they
Starting point is 02:57:55 make it so that he can throw the fucking things at you. Yeah, so my understanding of the the way he was described in league in particular is that like when you have a Timo on your team or fighting against you, uh, annoying both ways. Well, they're not going to win. They're going to lose, but they're going to be the most
Starting point is 02:58:11 annoying thing in the process, right? Like they're just fucking around, disappearing, going, doing other shit. Not actually playing to win the match, but it'll absolutely grind your gears. Timo doesn't seem to exist. to kill a lot of enemies or win team fights.
Starting point is 02:58:31 Timo exists to slow down the guy in the top lane so much that they can never snowball at all. Okay, okay. Because I'm thinking of like Naco Ark in Melty Blood as like an absolute troll character who's full of goofy memes. But the kit she has, while she's an annoying troll character, like the kit is not 100% squarely focused on annoying you, right? Like, it's, it's, she's a character and has goofy effects and goofy stuff going on. But this is a full-on, like, no, I am just meant to do little bits of damage and you're going to chase me, and that's all there is to it.
Starting point is 02:59:09 This whole match is me, me playing Keepaway, and they're showing that off in the trailer, you know? Full, full, like, oh, I'm going to set up. Oh, you pushed me out of my setup. Well, I can teleport back to my setup. Like, yeah. So would you say? say like do so far does every character like pretty much just run the exact same way in the
Starting point is 02:59:32 base game i think that there are some winners and losers i think yasuo and timo are like exemplars of how they should be designing characters i heard a lowe is really accurate too and the fact that they're built like there's things that that yasuo can do with windwall and projectile invulnerability that are not fair in league that are like explicitly not fair, but it's like, well, it's part of his kit, and it's like his character fantasy that apply to the wind wall in
Starting point is 03:00:02 2XCO. Well, because that's how yes, it was. Okay. So, League of Legends. And Timos like that, but I look at Brom, and Brom is like a fucking failure, like total shit failure. And I think Vi, I don't know how you would jungle up Vi, because Vi's
Starting point is 03:00:19 whole kid is about juggling, and it's like, that's not really a fucking thing in a fighting game. Well, she's boxing and getting in, I guess. I feel like Winwall which I feel is like yeah situationally or matchup useful depends for a Timo match is going to be incredible you know
Starting point is 03:00:35 depends depends if the mushroom interacts with Winwall I'm assuming it's the opposite because it's a projectile maybe you know I don't know but so far it feels like yeah a lot of people have been basically pointing out that like they're doing a pretty good job translating them and keeping it
Starting point is 03:00:52 it low blitz honestly everybody would Rom. Everybody but Brom. Okay. Like, because, like, I played, I played a lot more Darius than anybody else on that cast because Darius is very easy to play in league. And Darius's, like, feel of bullying someone feels like what it plays like in, in the fighting game. So someone I saw replied to the talk about the Garin skin stuff, and they were kind of saying that, like, even the fact that Darius pulls you in keeps you in and like and threatens you by by bullying you in that way is the opposite because
Starting point is 03:01:28 garren's moves would be about keeping you out and like shoving you out and creates a death roll around you right so there's an opposite philosophy to the moves as well you know um so yeah um pharynx full on full on troll bits there um also i feel really strongly i go back to my own smart post from two and a half months ago that I the two XKO roster sucks but if I can play Timo and Blitz day one it's a good game there you go yeah and then on yeah and in that same um breakdown gameplay video too as well they they also said like so you guys are out there saying you wanted some weirdo characters well here they come right like they're they're straight up in multiple places talking about the freak picks coming you know so um cool
Starting point is 03:02:19 to that next character is going to be more normal it's going to be Zed I prefer anybody but Zed but it's probably going to be Zed I'm curious I have to admit that Zed would be a fun character in a tag game because Zed's got Morgan duplicates so Zed would have
Starting point is 03:02:37 the ability to have three fucking characters on the screen at once to cross you up I just I want to know what Thresh in this art style is going to look like that feels like it could be yeah I'm hoping for a like Hades from the Hercules
Starting point is 03:02:52 Disney movie kind of effects on some of that shit you know like cool stylish cartooning of the glow and the fog and the fire yeah anyway speaking of looking great fucking Crimson Viper though yeah
Starting point is 03:03:08 come on I like just like with the Elena trailer I'm looking and I'm like oh yo she looks sick and then the classic costume popped up and I'm like fuck me amazing job on the classic like
Starting point is 03:03:24 they're really making those classic costumes incredible with these last couple characters Elena classic was fucking perfect and this classic Viper looks so good and yeah anyone who thought that she's going to get
Starting point is 03:03:40 you know sixified nah nah she has all of her silly nonsense yeah And another thing to... Which is weird, because she felt like she was a character from a different game in four. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:03:54 The S&K design cues, but then a completely different set of mixes going on. And, you know, what they're calling it, they're calling it, they're calling it Slime Fighter 6, right? Because you turn into green slime and you slide at the character as you drive rush towards them. Her drive rush sucks, actually, so she's not about that. That's fair. She's doing what I kind of was hoping to see. was like, I remember back in Street Fighter 5, I wanted to see someone with a one bar V trigger, right? I want to see people using the system in unique ways that are like, unlike the rest of the cast.
Starting point is 03:04:29 And finally, she gets to be that. So she can do a bunch of extensions off of special moves using one bar of drive. And not X moves either. That's really cool. All that crazy jump cancel shit, super jumping that she used to be able to do, she can do, but you got to spend a little bit of drive to get it. And if you do, it's really good. But now you got to manage it, you know. And then if you use her level one super, you get to do it for free for a little while. All the execution shit that was necessary, you know, you're still going to need to be able to do that. The cancels on everything is there. Extra follow-ups after her seismos. It's nice that they're going to, is Alex the third one? Yes. And that, no, Ingrid. No, no, no. He was last. Ingrid was next, actually. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 03:05:21 Because I was about to say it'd be nice if they put out Alex right afterwards for a character that is low execution. The actual tutorial thing, the video when they're describing her moveset, it's like, oh, is the execution a problem? Well, practice up. No one said it would be easy. It's like, yeah. If you don't want to execute, you're going to go fucking play 2XCO. Thank you. did they say that um did they say that Alex was next because uh I don't know in the artwork he was in the fourth slot but maybe I'm wrong perhaps I don't know I'm going off of the order I remember seeing the four of them in um but any case uh yeah she's looking pretty cool um also if you're playing if you're paying attention to world warrior uh world warrior mode
Starting point is 03:06:13 World Tour mode, rather. Her NPC was in the game all along. She was a CERN scientist, like whatever her name was in the... Because in her wind pose, she says, oh, that name was a cover. And you see her burning a passport. And the passport burning is a photo of the NPC she was in... Oh, that's cute. In World Tour mode.
Starting point is 03:06:38 That's cute. I like that. Grace, the Cern Scientist. Yeah. So wait, was there one scientist that had like a really Redhead? Overly detailed model? No, she looked like NPC face because she...
Starting point is 03:06:50 Wait, she can do that? That's crazy! The spy ability to lower your polycounts. Oh my God, that's incredible. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't do that. Oh, man. Go undercover as a bronze yakuza girl, you know?
Starting point is 03:07:06 Dude, I can't wait to watch the Alex Rfeel trailer at the Capcom Cup. I can't wait. Are you going to watch it? Well, you know me. I like to wait a little bit and catch that shit afterwards. Yeah, I like to catch the Vods. Yeah, okay. When they're not going to cost me, $40 fucking dollars. Dude, are you fucking kidding me? Oh, man. I might pay $40 if I walked by the arena in person.
Starting point is 03:07:37 Okay. Okay. So, um, Street Fighter 6, uh, World Finals at Capcom Cup, they've announced it is going to be a pay-per-view event and it's going to cost you $40 fucking dollars to watch some Street Fighter 6. Now, if you're wondering what the fuck is happening and why, there's a bit of a precedent you can watch where they were testing this out because Street Fighter League, the team-based official Capcom thing, was happening and was a paper. review event in Japan for some time now, and they were able to successfully make that work. It turns out that the development team and then the marketing team are like two completely separate companies that basically whatever, whatever communications they have with each other, da-da-da-da-da. There's just word that like, no, the people that handle this part of it, the e-sports part of it,
Starting point is 03:08:33 are fully e-sports brained. And the reason why they think this terrible, absolutely dumbass, stupid momentum killing idea is a good idea. The reason why they even are going for this at all is because it turns out that Street Fighter 6 being a very good fighting game and being a huge hit online, especially with the V-tuber crowd and with a lot of Japanese influencers, it has become a major, major online force on Japanese, like YouTube and shit. and they have had their views are like in the millions, right?
Starting point is 03:09:15 You can go over and watch stuff of like Tokito and a bunch of other like players are doing incredibly well over in Japan specifically on Street Fighter 6 content. And so whenever they did paid stuff like this, it works in Japan. There's enough people casually interested and it's doing enough numbers in Japan for them to be like, Yeah, fuck it. We're going to make you, we're going to charge you, and it'll be worth it. Meanwhile, elsewhere, it's the dumbest fucking move you could pull off. And obviously the...
Starting point is 03:09:52 I love paying $40 to watch the ad for your video game that I already own. So you think about the Capcom Cup recently, and the two things that come to mind are, one, you can stare at the timer is what you're allowed to share. Two, the ad break is coming. Guess what? There's another ad break. there's half an hours of bads between matches and three the fucking JP theme that's all you're hearing for for 40 fucking dollars right it's so stupid and it's
Starting point is 03:10:26 tone deaf but they don't care because in Japan it works and they're making that gamble and they think it's fine all right um it's it's their what they've done is they've brought street fodder so much to real sports where my interaction with a sport that I might be interested in is asking someone who did watch it the day after, hey, who won? And I go this guy and I go cool. And I just never interact with it at all. Oh, I mean, for sure, get ready for those lending links like every fucking UFC event or whatever to pop up. Oh, yeah, the lowest quality version of the thing to ever see. Yeah, filtering through Russian, you know, commercials and shit. Absolutely. But
Starting point is 03:11:08 You know what I can say, though? There's probably going to be a guy who's like, I am playing Street Fighter 6 and fake. You know, that guy who faked playing by pretending to play? And they're going to get, they're going to get taken down because they're going to be on top of that shit. But are they going to get taken down in two hours? So the thing is, and this is where I'm getting really annoyed in terms of just like, if you fucking gave it a, if you cooked, if you took the opportunity to cook, right? Because here's the thing. Um, the, the game is, is doing quite well. It's doing everyone's enjoying it. They're having a good time with it. But they are doing this thing where they're keeping up that million dollar price. Right. They're, they're keeping it up. And so over the time, over the years, you know, the game needs to, I guess, continue to generate a certain amount if you're going to be handing that out to people. And, and, uh, there is a, it's, it's a theory at this point. But, um, Um, um, um, was a player who won who came out of nowhere who basically is just a huge V-tuber.
Starting point is 03:12:04 fan and doesn't give a shit about the game or about being a champ or showing up at other events or anything. So he showed up out of nowhere Juan took the prize money and never fucking played again. Right? And so folks are kind of, so
Starting point is 03:12:20 there's an idea that like, uh-oh, this is a huge bad thing for marketing. This is a humongous like we if we can't. Yeah, because you just threw the million dollars away. You didn't even get a guy that monetize. Exactly. You didn't like, he just showed up said thank you. fucking left, you know?
Starting point is 03:12:35 That's great, dude. And he just, and then apparently used the money to, like, create his own V-Tuber rig or something like that. Like, like, I don't know. But it's, but just, like, there's, there's all those stories. So it's like, um, what we see here is a fucking humongous, shitty, stupid missed opportunity because a couple days later, the footage is going to be online and you'll be able to, whatever, to watch it.
Starting point is 03:12:58 Like I think they said, after you already know who. Four or five days later or whatever the case is, right? I'm so glad we're all the way back to, Hey, don't tell me who won the hockey game or the basketball game last night. My dad taped it overnight. Don't, don't fucking tell me. I'm going to watch it when I got. Don't tell me who won.
Starting point is 03:13:13 Oh, fuck, you fucking piece of shit. Now, we're going to fight now. We're going to fucking fist fight. Okay, but here's what's, so what's stupid is the fact that in the past, you already had in Street Fighter 5 the Capcom Cup color and content packs that would come out where it was like, if you want to put money towards this event. then you can buy some unique colors that are going to be Capcom colored characters. Here's a unique stage, Ring of Pride, Ring of Honor, et cetera, and everything,
Starting point is 03:13:45 and then you're basically, you're buying a content pack that's made to support Capcom Cup. You can just do that. That's already existed. I believe that was taken from Dota. It might be league, but I think it's Dota, where the big national or whatever it was, you would essentially buy a super battle pass that gave you tons of cool shit and buying it would just donate directly into the prize fund. It's so stupid because people are crying out for colors, costumes, and content in Street Fighter 6 now.
Starting point is 03:14:17 That would be an amazing thing to offer them is something to go hand in hand with supporting Capcom Cup and you give people what they want, right? Further fucking more. Dude, Capcom Cup is happening. Okay, so you're not streaming it on whatever thing platform's cool. Hey, where is it streaming? Oh, it's in the battle hub, Pat. Log on, get your character into the battle hub.
Starting point is 03:14:43 No, it's not. But I'm saying, could you imagine if they were like, get to the battle hub if you want to watch the thing? If you own the game, you can just watch it there. It's right there. You could just make people log in and have a huge spike in people playing the game if they haven't. people are playing Street Fighter. Maybe I should play Street Fighter. Wouldn't that be an incredible idea? Doesn't the Fortnite do that with the concerts? Of course they do. If you could just log in and watch the fucking thing with other people in an environment where everyone has their
Starting point is 03:15:18 avatar and you can chair and shout and put on costumes and meme it up and have a big online thing. I didn't think that Timo would be like this bright, shining moment of joy in this week's podcast. Like letting people watch in the game is right there. You You already have the infrastructure for it, and you want a reason to convince people to load in to the battle hub. It's so stupid that they don't do this. And instead they're like, nah, we're going to fucking charge you for the matches. I'm not an economist and I'm not a businessman or whatever.
Starting point is 03:15:51 But it feels to me after watching e-sports exist for 30 years that no one in the corporate side of e-sports has literally, known how to make even a single talk. It's fucking bat shit, dude. And like the joke of e-sports, sports, sports, sports, you know, showing up and taking over and you know, oh, fighting games is not e-sports.
Starting point is 03:16:14 Oh, fighting game is e-sports. Oh, no. We can't avoid it. It's like, yeah, here it is. We're making the exact same stupid mistakes and learning nothing from the process. You know, but hey, it works in Japan, so it's fine to destroy it everywhere else worldwide. You know, it, yeah.
Starting point is 03:16:30 We'll laugh at them in a couple of weeks when we, when they the when they do the dumb and we get a statement that's like we don't know what happened you could have just sold colors and had a battle hub event man you could have made this such a big specific hype thing and you i can't believe nobody thought of that anyways well let's see if the person who wins capcom cup will be able to do so while holding a baby that so that lady who won her Mortal Kombat tournament while holding her five-day-old newborn first of all
Starting point is 03:17:07 incredible I mean wow what an accomplishment that's a crazy thing there is yeah no there's right for the local accomplishment that's crazy shit and everyone sent it my way and I was like damn that's hardcore wow that's nuts what a talent that's that's crazy
Starting point is 03:17:24 our baby didn't leave the bounds of this house for like 60 days yeah I just well I just you know the hey maybe the tournament immune system buff is going to work
Starting point is 03:17:41 in their favor hopefully it was many many many months before my boy went to a grocery store and grocery stores have regular human beings in the fighting game tournaments and mortal combat tournaments at that have fighting game players and
Starting point is 03:18:02 mortal combat players at them. Gross. So it's just, I saw that story and I was like, that's fucking nuts. That's crazy. Wait, how old? And anyway, if it was like five months or so, that'd be one thing. But unfortunately, five days old means not old enough to have gotten their shots. So the immunity is risky.
Starting point is 03:18:25 What a hungrypox was there? So, you know. um that's a little uh that's a little dice but you know yeah i mean you know do your thing do your thing crazy story very impressive but um also c-section at that too like that's that's oh wow she's tough as shit super tough that's crazy that's really crazy that's super crazy incredible also be just just resting up man what a beast just yeah little early little early for that but you know I take days off if I break one of my toes. I dropped the keyboard on my toe once.
Starting point is 03:19:03 I think I broke it. I'm not sure. Anyway, only other thing was the little, little side, little project out there that's, you know, trying to get some funding wasn't able to do so. So now showing it off to the public in the hopes that they can get some momentum behind them. there's a little you know little animator known as
Starting point is 03:19:30 Gendi Tartakovsky is working on his next project Mm-hmm This is that cool thing with the gigantic night The black night
Starting point is 03:19:41 Yeah And I guess You know Now that the ground swell From fixed Is is hit in fever pitch There's a big black night In a big CG
Starting point is 03:19:51 sort of cool Well animated Genie ass proportion does it have zero um well then no money no money for you yeah so you know uh the the uh it's a knight piloting a mecha night fighting off ninjas and it looks pretty cool so uh he's like hey i'm trying to get this greenlit and it's not working so i'm trying a new strategy basically i'm going to leak the little pilot uh idea that they put out and they're hoping for this test to uh get enough ground sounds well I it it you know I haven't I still haven't seen it um but it goes to it goes to say that remember that no one in any business knows what they're doing Sony like financed and then provided all the materials and development for k-pop demon hunters looked at it and said man this thing sucks just sell to Netflix for for whatever yeah
Starting point is 03:20:54 like nobody knows how to make any fucking money at all anywhere um also i think the unfortunately his last mecca uh thing which uh was symbionic titan i think was also one of the gandie projects that didn't really blow up as hard as the others did so um there's just there's also some some anti mecca bias out there you got to fight we we learned about a bunch of that with a fucking Pacific Rim and you know Totoro San so um everyone loved it everyone loved symbiotic Titan but it was never it was never popping off you know anyways uh let's take some letters hey if you want to send a letter send it to Castle Super Beastmail at Gmail.com that's Castle Superbeastmail at Gmail.com also I forgot to talk about Hades too it's incredible 10 out of
Starting point is 03:21:50 10 game. Amazing. I can't stop playing it, but I can only play it at night because that is a baby annihilating game. That will fuck up that kid's dopamine. When you get the Hades fucking buffs. By the way, I don't know if you saw it. There's an insane thread on the subreddit, which is like, hey, how about, do you think the Warframe would be a good game for Wully to play while he's chilling with the baby? And every single post in there, including mine, is have you lost your fucking mind Jesus Christ
Starting point is 03:22:25 Have you lost your fucking mind? Might as well just clockwork orange vampire survivors into her eyes also to I didn't see that discussion
Starting point is 03:22:39 but that's sitting well behind fucking death stranding to and lies of pee end. Oh, it's sitting behind many, many things. Fucking Delta Rune came out. Like, nah, man.
Starting point is 03:22:59 Oh, I also have a minor announcement that we didn't cover it in the news. But Walton the Gould Goggins will be appearing in Fallout 76 in the next expansion. That game's still running? sure is. Walton Goggins is going to be there as the ghoul to give you quests. Wow. Ask me how I know. No,
Starting point is 03:23:29 don't. Um, yeah. That'll surely. Oh my God. Page is getting into it. Isn't she? Oh,
Starting point is 03:23:44 she's not fall at 76 is only $13 right now? She's booting up an account as we speak, isn't she? Maybe not right now, but let's see what happens when I go home. All right. We got one coming in over here. Listen, yeah, what, Paige? Hey, hey, well, you know how I'm good at, like, annoying people? You know how that's like a thing?
Starting point is 03:24:15 I discovered a way to annoy people that is absolutely unbelievable that everyone can use and I'm giving it all to you I was being like an idiot in Discord like five, six years ago and my friend my friend Joy was like
Starting point is 03:24:30 what the fuck it's wrong with you and I was like hey man hey hold on hold on hold on listen and I just didn't say and when he started to get upset again I was like no no no okay okay okay okay Okay, listen, listen, listen.
Starting point is 03:24:47 Just fucking nothing. Just nothing. I don't know if physical copies of Fallout 76 exist, but, like, I feel like you could just get that and just put the cowboy hat on it and just, and just hand that over and just page, just do what you will. You know, here you go. Just cut out the middle, man. Oh, wait, hold a little voice box.
Starting point is 03:25:05 Hold on, hold on. I got it. That's the first onus interaction we've had or whatever the fuck. Here we go. I got, oh, look at that. Look what just happened. Oh, no. She's doing it to you.
Starting point is 03:25:15 Oh, my God. Oh, that's a problem. Oh, your lights. Oh, no. All right. We got one over here. Dear Lord Father Woolley and Grand Pat Nark. So, what is the type of most minor visual element that gets you excited regardless of context?
Starting point is 03:25:38 For example, birds for scale, bread eating animation, etc. Personally, I love bullets and projectiles when they're visibly repelled or turn. away by armor or playing. Thanks. I've hit this one before, but I have a real simple neuron that gets activated anytime I see parallax scrolling and shaky cam, like anime style. When I see that in 3D or 2D, that kind of mimics. And I'm specifically thinking of full metal alchemist rewrite intro, the beginning where
Starting point is 03:26:14 they're scrolling and Hohenheim is in the distance and you're seeing the grass in the foreground going really fast and it's kind of... You're Michael Bay. It's this thing, you know? I love that effect. Why am I Michael Bay? You know Michael Bay's entire career is built off
Starting point is 03:26:30 of not understanding why he enjoys the scenes from West Side Story? What? So West Side Story is Michael Bay's favorite movie and when he talks about West Side Story, he talks talks about his favorite scene
Starting point is 03:26:46 is, I forget what the song is, but they're doing a song and number, but they have a lot of people running towards the camera and people running around behind them because there's a lot of parallax. And so when Michael Bay wants to make a scene exciting, he puts just 10 levels of fucking parallax
Starting point is 03:27:02 in a scene. And that's how he came up with the low angle spin. Oh my God. Because it increases the parallax behind the character times 1,000 percent. Okay. Okay. Yes. No, not at random. I'm specifically in moments where it creates a sense of speed on the, you know, a surrounding shot or a traveling shot. It looks fucking sick. Yeah. Yeah. And then also when you, when you deliberately make things look like a shaky cam, you know, that's a nice little effect too. I can't think of anything off the top of my head as a visual effect that just makes me go, oh, I genuinely can't. Like it, for me, I maybe. maybe people who watch my stuff would actually know better than me.
Starting point is 03:27:48 But like I feel like it's like I all know it when I see it kind of thing. Another one I'm thinking of is like brand new soundscapes I've never heard before when sound design is like gets creative and does new shit. So. I've had enough of new soundscapes. Sure. I know.
Starting point is 03:28:07 But when Attack of the Clones came out and they dropped those space bombs in episode two and they went and I was like I don't know what that is but that sound is sick I love that
Starting point is 03:28:25 I love when sound engineers go all out creating a brand new thing fucking cool okay well I don't I'm stealing one from the chat because it's something that I love but I love when there's an action shot
Starting point is 03:28:38 and then the person turns into like a really shitty dummy Like a really bad dummy Yes, sure And they fall down And it looks like garbage Yes, yeah All right, and let's take another quick one here
Starting point is 03:28:56 Shoutouts to a Redditor Hey there, dreaded and redheaded Oh, that's good That's one of the best in a while actually Just wanted to give a shout out to The Redditor Marlow Curry On the subreddit, Sorcerer Supreme for the consistent and tireless work
Starting point is 03:29:12 of providing in-depth context to pretty much any joker reference that gets made. Anything that comes across gets short but sweet descriptions links to the source and it's amazing that they've been able to compile it.
Starting point is 03:29:23 Extremely polite when asking about additional context they don't have yet. For a community with such a long and detailed history, Marlowe's doing a great job and they should be recognized for it. Yeah, I did see posts of like, oh, here's context for this in joke, by the way. And it's kind of like, it's weird
Starting point is 03:29:38 but it's been so long that it's like, oh yeah this is necessary because a lot of people are wandering in here not knowing what the fuck the old channel was much less us really long time and it's been a really long time and i did see that like that um out of the loop post where someone was like what the fuck is up with this two best friends play subreddit actually though like why are they so ubiquitous when searching for things online it's a it's a it's like it's like it's like it's like it's it's like it's It's a dead place that's useful for describing other things. Ooh.
Starting point is 03:30:15 Ooh. I like that. I've never heard that descriptor before. Me either. I just said it just now. That just jumped into my brain unbidden. That's great. That's fucking cool.
Starting point is 03:30:28 Sick. Yeah. It just keeps showing up whether you like to or not, which means people are like, I don't know what this place is about, but I'm here for whatever. ever game news they're talking about. Yeah. So, like, if somebody draws a fucking picture of you in a cool pose, but you have like one really beefy, muscular white legs, people are going to go, what the hell is that? Yes. And the answer is going to be, uh, we used to lie. That's the content. Sure. We just used to lie about things like that. It was funny. We thought it was funny. Yeah. Well, so once upon a time, there was a reference point was the Zibatsupedia. But I,
Starting point is 03:31:06 that's been a minute now, right? Like, there was, that as a point for explaining a lot of the jokes that folks weren't getting. But I think even that's outlived its reference. So now it's kind of just lost to the wind. So yeah, shoutouts to anybody who takes the time like Marlow does to
Starting point is 03:31:24 give some context for some of that shit. Because it's indecipherable as a language to others at a certain point when you're making a joke 15 layers deep talking about Andre. You know what, dude? You know what? I don't really miss him.
Starting point is 03:31:39 yeah there you go exactly exactly all right before we go i have one piece of housekeeping to do uh i have put up a poll on my blue sky i believe there's a subreddit thread about it but i'll double check on that uh i would advise you to go vote in it over the next couple of days it will determine what color i'm going to be dyeing my hair for the next month oh oh We're not finished yet. It's not over yet. You're going to look like a stupid asshole until like Christmas. Okay.
Starting point is 03:32:20 I have a lot of reaping to do. I've done much sewing. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. I have much reaping to go. You have enjoyed the mutton chops in an unexpected boost. Yeah, it's not going to go the same. No. Um, but beard and hand top?
Starting point is 03:32:39 all of it? The whole thing. No combo colors. Okay. But yeah, well, because I'm bald. If I was not bald, I would, we would just go to the top, right? But I am. Okay. If you're going to have enough hair to just go with just the hair. Well, here's what I'm going to say. Whatever you go with, I can recommend a brand that means you don't have to keep topping it up every couple days. Oh, no, no, no. We're going to go to a fucking professional. Oh, okay. All right. Great. We're going to go to a professional. Okay. It gets to live for 30 days. Okay. When 30 days is up, it's gone. because if you go to the fucking pharmacy and get some manic panic, like fuck that. No, no. Okay, so this is something
Starting point is 03:33:14 this is something interesting because usually what happens is that like, you know, like I'm a white person. But to people listening to the audio one, I'm a white person. Whoa. It's true. And Willie's a black person. Wow. And usually
Starting point is 03:33:29 the thing is like, you know, I wouldn't know anything about black hair, which I pretty much don't. Right. Red hair however is fucking shit. shit to die. It does not die like other white people's hair. It's god awful. So I'm going to have to bleach it first. Yes.
Starting point is 03:33:47 You're going to bleach. And here's the thing. Depending on the color, you might need to bleach more yellow tinted or more blue tinted. There's different tints of bleach to it. So we're not there's no, there's no Walmart bag logo getting stomped into my bald
Starting point is 03:34:02 on this. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. I'm like this. I'm going to a fucking professional Who knows what they're doing also So I don't hurt myself Bleach is yes You can with hydrogen peroxide And incorrect mixes
Starting point is 03:34:17 You can make yourself some accidental Must of gas and knock yourself out Than the top of the head True How do you After a month expires How are you backing out of this Are you going to be like
Starting point is 03:34:29 Re-dye knee red Is that going to be the move? What's the backdown? So I'm going to assume that means you didn't read the list of goals that I put out because there's the follow-up goal after in which I'm going to go full chrome with pencil mustache.
Starting point is 03:34:52 Okay, okay. Full Vincent Price. The reset. Okay, okay, the reset comes next. That's a shame because chops is fucking kicking, but like... Woolly, you know, after my, after my pencil mustache era, the chops will just come back. Back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There you go. Unexpected fucking change just like that. This is one of those things. This is one of those things that it's like for some people, this would be like a year-long
Starting point is 03:35:27 nightmare. Yeah. But for me, wait, why is Paige going? Wait, what? Why is my wife who's thought I'm going totally bald? Yes, I am going totally bald page. Hey. A complete chrome don't. Hey. Did you not read it either? Oh my God. Did my partner in crime not actually read the fucking thing?
Starting point is 03:35:52 That thing's been up for 35 days. 35 days. Let me scroll down. Yeah. After clown chops hair color time us on. Oh, no. Vincent Price, Egghead bald plus mustache. Listen. Literally, Vincent Price's egghead from 1960s Batman. The darkness cannot distract
Starting point is 03:36:23 from... How did you not? Did you not? We made that list together. That's crazy. I was going to say that... This is why Resident Evil 2 blind was tough. you see, listening. It's tough. Um, I get it because once upon a time, I cause- She crashing out. Oh, no. Oh, my life is stupid. My life is stupid.
Starting point is 03:36:51 Everything in my life is stupid. Oh. She forgot. Bro. Um, once upon a time, I decided to cosplay Xavier Stone from Guitar Hero One, and I died- and I died my dreads green and yellow. and the rest is history. Yeah, and then you kept it for quite a while.
Starting point is 03:37:12 And the rest is history, you know? So I get it. All right. Yeah, no, this is going to be a speed bump in the history tale of my life, sir. Ah, but what if you... I don't think I'm going to be fully jokerized this time next year. But what if you like the color? Okay. What if everybody complements you on it?
Starting point is 03:37:39 Hey, well, hey, hey, Pat, hey, Pat, hey, Pat. Remember when you got that prank tattoo that says insert here over your asshole? What if you really liked it so much, you decided to keep it? Guys, listen, you shut up. Listen, guys, hey, everybody, we have successfully complimented the mutton chops into existing. Okay? Okay. Oh, you missed one of the lights, page. All right. Just keep that in mind.
Starting point is 03:38:10 No, that's not what happened. Those chops look fucking sick, dude. They look so good. Well, first of all, thank you. Thank you a lot. Thank you. Paige, you're still missing this light over here. Thank you a lot.
Starting point is 03:38:21 That's very kind of you. Very appreciate it. Your compliment means nothing. Their compliment means nothing. The only compliment that mattered about these chops is from the lady who lives in my house. that was the compliment that makes the chop stay specifically the phrase you're keeping the chops point command and i was like okay i mean things can be arranged all right all right that'll have a good day everybody
Starting point is 03:39:05 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. You know, I'm going to be able to.

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