Castle Super Beast - Csb344 Watch It On Poob You Can Poob It Its A Poob Original Dive Into Poob

Episode Date: January 11, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:36 Hey, wolves, how you doing? Today you wear the makeup, but you are not the clown, sir. Oh, yeah, is that, is that so? How's that? But you are, you are not the clown. Yeah, well, what do you mean? Well, you know, um, in response to the... Yo! In response to yo.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Yeah, yeah. No. So, um, I, uh, I, I, I, I, I, I, I just, I just straight up lost track of it, you know, uh, what are we talking about? We're talking about the say James slam. The Slay Jam slam. Sorry, the box jam slammed, BJ slam. Correct. Which you, uh, which you brought up to me, uh, properly ahead of time before. Yeah. And I was, apparently I'm quite low on the, on the mix. which is the first time that's ever been the case. That is strange. I don't want to drag you up. No, you don't want to do that. Too much here. What if I just kick up my gain, output volume?
Starting point is 00:01:52 Okay, you could try that. What if I just do this? Oh, no, that's the opposite. No, my input volume's already at maximum. I can't kick it up higher on myself. Okay. Okay, okay, okay. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:02:06 I'll bring you up on the desktop. that should be fine. I'll just do that. All right. All right. There we go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, so obviously the box jam slam for 2XCO, which is going on now.
Starting point is 00:02:22 It's hot. It's now. Which is going on. And, you know, congrats you got in there. Thank you. I've been bug and say jam about getting in on these for a while. Okay. The Street Fighter one, I didn't get in.
Starting point is 00:02:33 And then I missed the other two. Oh, you went for it. Okay. Okay, okay. The other two. Yeah, and there was, you had a friend as well that was doing it, it was during MacFest or so. I don't remember that even at all. Shit, okay.
Starting point is 00:02:50 But like, that could be true, but I can't remember. I have too many events that have happened in my life. Well, in any case, you properly brought that up ahead of time. And I was like, right, yes, that is a thing. And just shit going on, completely. forgot about it. And then when you mentioned it again, I was like, that, yes. And I went to go look. And it was like, okay, the training is happening. It was four
Starting point is 00:03:16 days ahead. It wasn't the day before, admittedly. But by the way, you finish the story, I'll tell you the behind the story. Yeah. So the way Sage-F, the way the Sage-H have told it, he's like, literally, he's like, bro, it's tomorrow. What the fuck is wrong with you? And I'm like, it's not out of time. It wasn't the day before. But it was still, it was still definitely late for when, when the, the signup sheet got posted.
Starting point is 00:03:43 And, uh, yeah. And it's like, oh, it was just like, yeah, dude. Like the, we just finished going through the bracket and stuff. Sorry, you know. And I was like, not fair enough. That's on me, you know. And, uh, and then I saw the clip. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:57 So like, so here, so here's the underneath story. There's a whole underneath story. I wish there were that many O's and yo. but I don't yo that long. You know, you know, Sejam was like super excited to tell that story because he told the same story twice the same way back to back.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Okay, no, no, no, I want to say it again. I want to say it again. Okay, okay. Okay, so here's what happened, right? So I got into the Seajam slam and I got the confirmation, I got invited to the Discord, yada, yada, right? And I hop on and I ended up playing like a bunch of practice matches
Starting point is 00:04:32 with Javi from I Heart Justice, who's really cool, very nice, new friend. Love that guy. A friend of Leathero, didn't know that. And Seajam comes in and we start talking and I like the topic of like, Hey, how come Pooley isn't here? And he explains the story to me, right?
Starting point is 00:04:51 And then I go, bro, that's crazy. When did he contact you? And we like cross-referenced. Yeah. My texts for me being like, when I told you I had to move the podcast next week, that's when you went, oh shit. walk. A one million percent.
Starting point is 00:05:12 And so me, Paige, and Seajam and Javier all laughing about this. And then afterwards, Paige is like, oh, you don't think we like laugh too hard at like, well, his expense because he was late. Like, no. And then I'm watching Seajam stream. And he's blowing you up on the whole thing. And I'm like, oh, wow, we were definitely not too mean about it. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:05:33 No, that is exactly it. That was, look at my phone. Oh, shit. You know? And, and, and, uh, what I, yeah, and what I was trying to, and I went over to the Twitter, and I saw the, the dates posted and, uh, it's in three days. But so, so there was the first one and then the others are for November, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:55 And, uh, so for the six, seven and eight, I was looking at those. I was like, I was like, I, uh, it doesn't mention what time it was going to start. So I just shot at the message to be like, an idea what time. because I wasn't too sure because one of those days, there's a baby stuff. And so I was just trying to figure that part. And he was just like, dude. And I was like, yeah, all right, all right, right.
Starting point is 00:06:16 You know. When I texted you, hey, man, I got in, I have to move it. At that exact second, it was too late. Yeah, okay, okay. Because I had already been confirmed to be. Right, right. So that being said, of course, yeah, I still, The slams, for those who don't know, are these really awesome streamer and coach-based fighting game events that he's been running.
Starting point is 00:06:44 And the backstory is so ridiculous to me in the sense that that's shit that does so much officially to bring up the profile of these games. And it gets a lot of eyeballs on them, especially when a lot of streamers participate and have fun together with their communities. and the fact that the setup of varying skill levels is like the most interesting fucking thing possible. Yeah, proam. Proam is exactly the way to put it. You're just matching people of different skill levels against people in their relative brackets and then having coaches to kind of show them the ropes and stuff and focusing on, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:24 the characters and the tactics to just make it through a basic bracket. And a, you know, and a secondary effect is showing people that are fans of each streamer. what it's like to like participate in a bracket, you know? But anyway, what's just so ridiculous to me has just been the stories of official support being a difficult thing to acquire, where it's like each of these fighting games should be bending over backwards to get a slam going. Well, like 2XCO seems to be on board. Very on board. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Yeah. But like the idea that any of the major fighting games would be like, no, actually, like we're not, we don't think that highly of that slash would question it is just so insane because it does nothing but massively grow the profile of your game. It is such a smart idea because first of all, varying out the skill levels enables people, like non-fighting game streamers to enter into a fighting game event. But also, I was thinking about this because we're going to be paired up into force duos. Interesting format.
Starting point is 00:08:33 We're going to be forced duos and we're going to be in teams of five. And so, like, obviously coaches are going to be competing. They're all pros. Every seed one in the entire bracket is Grandmaster player or Challenger player. Like the top guys are all super super super fucking strong. But we still have to play a set of five matches two out of three, which means that, like, actually improving the weakest player on your team is more, like, time relevant than getting the pros to get more pro.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Yes. Because the brand new person can go the farthest in the least amount of time. Teaching your best player to be able to beat Diaphone is way harder and more time consuming than teaching your lowest player to be able to be. Here's how to do a bread and butter. Here's how to do a super. Right. That's it. Like, you know, oh, keep in mind when to burst.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Maybe save it for Fury. you know? Okay, cool. Bam, that's a massive difference. So yeah, like forcing duos, no juggernaut, no sidekick. Very cool, very smart. And you're also forced to pair up with different people on your team. So no one can really lock in perfect synergy. There's a lot of scrambling that's kind of like built in to the system. And so everyone's going to have two pairs, right?
Starting point is 00:09:56 And so there will be one other person that you should like plan. to actually have a couple matches with. Is your team slash coach announced yet? No, that'll be tomorrow. Okay. There's a team building form. Okay. The form is who do you play?
Starting point is 00:10:13 What's your rank? Who do you like? Are you friends with people? Do you not like people? Ah, okay. And then the teams will be, will be factored in tomorrow. All right.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Announce tomorrow. And it appears that they'll be announced to the team. teams simultaneous to everyone. Well, this is obviously not official in any way. Nobody knows until it's announced officially. But quite frankly, if you're not going back to back with unruly, then you best take that motherfucker out with the thin dreads. So this has been discussed.
Starting point is 00:10:50 This has been discussed already. I literally was talking the dreaded encounter redux. The issue with me and Kenny is that me and Kenny have the. exact same ranking. Oh yeah. We are both in the middle of Emerald. Okay. This means there is a zero percent chance we will end up on the same team.
Starting point is 00:11:11 No. And an extraordinarily high chance that we will end up on the opposing side of each other. Yeah, it's better to pitch you against the video games bracket then. If you're in the same exact ranking right now. We're dead center of Emerald, both of us. Okay. We're both on lock for like seed two or seed three. depending on how strong the other players.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Who does he play? Do you know? I don't know. Okay. And also very strange for a 2XKO attorney. Everyone's playing one person. Like I'm not playing Blitz and Timo. I'm just playing Timo. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:11:47 You're picking a character. Unless I get paired up with like the coach in one of my matches. And he's like, if you don't let me play Timo, we're going to die. At which point I'll have to switch something else. Then, yeah, yeah, for sure. No, that's great. What's cool too, actually, is people are doing... So there's this event and something that else that just ran.
Starting point is 00:12:08 There was an event called OneX-K-O. Okay. And it was a... Was that a juggernaut turning? Juggernaut only. Single elim, single bracket... Single elimination? Best to one.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Best to one. Okay. So the one is one, one, one, like one all the way across the board. right first to one single a limb one character only that's like like baby like a baby uh super battle opera and um so watching that and seeing some of this of what was going on there like people are discovering that well one juggernaut is not as bad as they thought for in some cases and there's some also wild um juggernaut tech where um if you if you pop fury at the same time someone someone pops a burst, your fury eats their burst.
Starting point is 00:13:05 What? Your fury eats their burst and forces them to wall bounce. So basically, to anyone who doesn't know in the game, burst is the ability for you to escape a combo that you're getting hit by. So it's your combo breaker, which you get a couple times throughout the match, but not often. And when you have one character left, you have a stronger version that makes you tougher, faster, and more powerful. Your comeback mechanic, you're ex-man.
Starting point is 00:13:30 And if you time it to be at the same time as the weaker version, it just eats it completely and forces a wall bounce, which is like, this is not a scenario. I don't think anyone has seen up until now, but if you can call out that they're about to do it, you can win, you know? Fuck your burst and take your soul in so many ways, which is like, okay, that's a cool thing going on there. So, yeah, there was a one X-K-O event. Right on. Okay. So I did some practice That's for that yesterday
Starting point is 00:14:02 How'd that go? It went okay. I wish my stream hadn't fallen apart But I did record it locally and put it up So that's up on on Patsdutte's YouTube.com slash Pat Stairs I watched that And it was
Starting point is 00:14:17 A lot of people didn't know anybody Everybody knows you I don't know anybody I described it when I was talking to say jam I was like I feel like I went over to Woolie's house And I wasn't home like that's something. Like, it's this really, you know that feeling?
Starting point is 00:14:33 How weird that is? Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. That's great. Two things happen. One, when you're playing like non-stop duos, there are so many fucking strange interactions in that game
Starting point is 00:14:46 with four characters on the screen. There are so many weird scenarios where assists will like, like get hit, but like body block your super or your throw. and just a bunch of just strange interactions that you would never see in a solo context. Yeah. That was throwing everybody for a loop or things were hitting when they shouldn't. Things were dropping when they shouldn't. Grabs were whiffing because the assist was in the way.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Timo was like invisible behind people's characters. Oh, man. Because like depending if he was the assist at the point, he would be physically completely blocked by like Brahm and Blitz and the Lowy. And you can't reach people as well when shit like that is happening. Yeah, that's a fucked up interaction. It's super weird. But the other thing is that I was like, I'm going to, I'm going to hang out with these guys.
Starting point is 00:15:38 I'm going to practice up. And I just got thrown into like the fucking dankest shark pit I have ever entered in my life. I'm like, all right, let's get some practice games in. All right. Who's ready for practice? Oh, okay. Hey, I heart justice. Say Jam, Super noon, void.
Starting point is 00:15:57 uh uh cody oh you you played noon and and uh debuzz and i'm like i'm fucking i can i didn't fight anybody that wasn't fucking grand master yeah like not a single fucking like what the fuck noon noon was the one who sat me and reggie down at the the riot fucking booth and went like okay here's how the game works and like ran through the whole thing you know um and then yeah true to form you're these are the names you're seeing dominating the fucking challenger leaderboard as well that are just like inhaling the game what's crazy about those interactions
Starting point is 00:16:35 you're mentioning too is that like most of the time you're fighting two people or you're fighting one person and they're switching back and forth between their assist and whatever like the most you can the most fancy thing you can kind of see people doing is like
Starting point is 00:16:49 let's say you tag in Vye and then you do her charge punch and then tag to your second secondary character and the charge punch continues and then releases while you're doing the thing with the character you just switched to, right? So characters that can hold down a button or
Starting point is 00:17:07 hold down a move can sort of keep that charge going as well as it really is to hold down the button when it's just you. Exactly. When it's just me holding down the button, I don't have to multitask. But anything more elaborate than holding down a button is like you can't do that unless two human beings are here
Starting point is 00:17:23 you know? So there's weird stuff like that. I had I had like just this wonderful set of interactions in which like I teamed up with Seajam and doos for quite a while and his Yasuo was really good and I was trying to help out with Timo
Starting point is 00:17:41 and I had this I felt like like a fucking toddler trying to help out their big brother he was like oh I'm gonna push block and he would go oh fuck and like my push block like broke his fucking reaction and caused him to get with punished and die Oh, yeah, I'm helping. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:03 I mean, sometimes as well, there's a like, you know, you let, like, I don't know what happens if you push block at the same time they do a retreating guard, you know, but like if they were like, I. It's got to. I had that, but thank you, you know, or like a, or the worst must be like a bad burst because you have to burst for them. and if you do that and then the opponent calls it out and blocks it I think the worst thing and this is not something
Starting point is 00:18:32 that would happen with a tournament but this would happen of course with me in practice I'm like the only person who'll play a fighting game I guess and like read chat like during at the time during the match
Starting point is 00:18:45 so like I'm holding the dog is asleep on my chest and like I'm tagged out and like oh my I have two seconds because I'm not you know I blew my assist. And I'm looking over reading chat. I just hear Seajam like screaming like,
Starting point is 00:18:59 help me. Help. Burst. Burr! Oh, no. I was too late. Sorry, I was kissing the dog. Okay. Sorry, moom, moom, moose. Sorry. Bro. Garfield, you had burst. What are you going to do?
Starting point is 00:19:16 Yeah, okay. Well, fortunately, what I can say is, I mean, I'm sure. There's practice. It's practice. It doesn't count. Yeah, no. But this is the. practice that is when you walk into the venue and you see a bunch of beasts crowding around one set just running tech on each other before the actual tournament begins and like you walk up to peek over and like a bunch of people with big muscular backs turn to be like what you want space oh yeah
Starting point is 00:19:44 sure open up all right come on in here and you're just like uh do i have next maybe you know um it's it's it's that you know but but i tell you what uh I mean, I'm sure you got to see, like with Timo, your goal is, your goal is to win, right? But really, your goal is to stall for time while your assist comes back and just. So what I discovered in that and people who watch that set, because I wasn't like 100% free, which makes me very happy because these were killers. My goal as Timo is to use the fact that the character is good at all these. keep away and dart and slingshot things to just run up and tick throw professionals like it's fucking street fighter too and have them go oh what and just throw them into the corner yeah say jam can
Starting point is 00:20:40 come in and do a yes well like ground bounce that'll do that'll do um also phenomenal is timo doing his blow dart super while you get to do a while you tag in the opponent and they do their mix right like shenanigans happening while, you know, watch out. Told you. It's happening is pretty solid. So, yeah. That game's pretty good. I'm excited to win.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Yes. I'm excited to win. Cash money millionaires. Big prize pools happen in. Yeah, I don't know how the price pool is split up yet. You know what? It seems like everyone's going to get something. It seems like it's a winner's situation.
Starting point is 00:21:19 So they didn't announce that. And I think that's actually a pretty. good move to just be like, yeah, it's not about that, but that's there. That's cool, right? It's not about that. But seven of the eight teams. But yeah, but like, but like the, the nonsense that comes from like, here's the top six payout or here we do, do 70, 20, 10? Nah, we do 90, fucking 15, or, or it's not even, the math doesn't add up, whatever. We do 973 or some shit, you know, but yeah you'll find out
Starting point is 00:21:56 after the fact I suppose whatever but more than anything it's just like yo get eyeballs on this shit and get people in there yeah no it's all for the love of the game at which point unless my team wins at which point it was all about the money like
Starting point is 00:22:11 if I win okay yeah no that was the plan so can can you confirm or deny that do the winners get a guaranteed heed access to the Chipotle hoodie and pants. It's really funny. I've actually
Starting point is 00:22:27 begged on social media for that Chipotle. The Chipotle fucking outfit. There was one person on Reddit that was like, hey, I go to Chipotle every day if you want one, just DM me. And people have been doing that. But otherwise...
Starting point is 00:22:43 Hit me up. Someone hit me up on Blue Sky. Give me the Chipotle crap. I mean, the Chipotle hoodie is whack, but the shiny pants, uh, they kind of go. You know, I'm not going to lie. I don't know, because I don't know what a, like, Chipotle doesn't mean anything to me. So, like, I'll silver jacket.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Okay, that looks all right. It's, it's a Mexican bowl, basically, you know. Isn't that the one that keeps making people sick? Does it? I don't know. I think Chipotle is the one that keeps getting caught for making people sick. I don't know about that. I do know that it's the one that they tell you, just put it in the bag.
Starting point is 00:23:15 If you're an unemployed fighting game character. And also, people, people are confirming, yes, it is the one that is, making people's. Oh, okay, okay. Well, as far as I know, Seajam has done many a Chipotle ad for officially, as those are the cards you get for making your way out of pools. And they, you know, there's a couple of like, let's, let's talk fighting games over some Chipotle at the restaurant. And every once in a while, we cut to some of the the beans or whatever, you know. I'm really excited to find out who's on my team.
Starting point is 00:23:45 I'm like, absolutely. Oh, you don't know yet. No, man. People are still filling out their forms. Okay, okay. Because like the whole thing with the BJ slam last night was, hey, let's all, let's all meet and do like a quick little meet and greet and, and start pair off and,
Starting point is 00:24:01 and try some matches. Um, but then at the, at the late, late hours of the night, it was the, the beast corner as it always is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Just beast arising. And like, when I filled out my form, I'm like, every single person I fucking played is in the coach or seed one rank. Okay. Like, okay.
Starting point is 00:24:20 So yeah, fucking, I'm sure everybody's cool. Sick. Yeah, no, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, and I think, um, well, I'm sure there, yeah, there, you said the grouping is by, it's by, by, by character and by who you know and so on and so forth, right? So, well, yeah, so it's like they don't want to, you know, they put you on team with someone with a, a coach team, oh, for example.
Starting point is 00:24:44 You say you want to put like, uh, you know, five perfect seeds, right, uh, coach one, two, three, four. but every single fucking person on that team goes, I play Timo only. It's like, well, maybe that's not gonna work. That being said, man, Timo is gonna be on like 45% of all matches. Oh, yeah? So much Timo.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Really? Yes. So much Timo. I would expect a fuck ton of echo because on ranked all your, all you're fighting is my time, my time, my time, my time. Echo is like execution heavy, man. Echo has buttons to hit.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Like, it's going to be the Darius and Timo show for like the bottom three seeds, for sure. Darius is extremely straightforward. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Fair enough. Fucking Jesus Christ, though, Echo, man. Anyway, we'll see what happens. Um, I, I, you know, I was wondering if, um, the, well, what, okay, what I will say is like, like, as, as ranks go up, um, you do, there is a, there is a, a place where I would say, um, just outside of like, Grandmaster, you've got these, uh, heavy, heavy Ari, heavy Yasuo, heavy echo.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Yes. running it, right? And then above, there's like sick Brahms that are back out of nowhere. I was playing I played maybe like two, three hours with Javi. Yeah. And we loaded in, he was the first guy
Starting point is 00:26:31 I met and the first guy I played. And we loaded into a Blitz Timo, Braum Timo set. Yeah. And his brahm is fucking aces. Seeing. Absolutely. Like, like a lot of that was missing. And then
Starting point is 00:26:47 suddenly from Grandmaster back, I'm like, oh, there's ridiculous Brahms that are destroying, ridiculous blitzes that are destroying that are doing shit. Not my fucking blitz. But characters that I had stopped seeing are now back in the mix, you know? But yeah, no, it is. I'm so excited to see Echo just get hit with the fucking bat, like, real bad. Like, he's that timewinder shit needs to fucking calm down. So the problem is that.
Starting point is 00:27:17 anything you do that takes away his identity as a mix-up god would suck and anything you do that takes away his character time like thing identity sucks he can't be the best projectile zoner in the game and the best guy with the best mix and also have the best strike assist right yes no so this I saw a really interesting thought which is like actually make the time winder fire out like twice as fast so that it doesn't linger nearly as long oh interesting because the lingering part where it's a bomb to accidentally fall onto is like the bigger problem. I think
Starting point is 00:27:53 the thing that might piss off and take away the lead, the thing that might help and take away the, not take away fun from the people that are enjoying would be to just pull an akuma and just go give him four under health. Just drop his health. Just make it so that he dies easier, right?
Starting point is 00:28:09 He gets all the tools, he gets all the mixes, and then he just dies easier. Which is like be good then. You know. make less mistakes. You should have the ability to avoid that. The burrito fucking OS. Oh, yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:28:24 What was he was talking about? Like, he's rolling up the fucking cassidia. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. No, Sejian was just going on. Oh, I've got burritos and cascadias and tacos and shit. What the fuck he's talking about? Now, now, like, oh, someone found some new tech with Warwick.
Starting point is 00:28:41 It's like, we're going to call that a swarba. You know, and you're like, what the... Yeah, okay. So it's just, there's just, There is a particular thing that Echo can do in the corner that it covers all layers. So if you roll to escape, if you wake up, if you do a reversal, if whatever you do, you know, you can get mixed and it covers all, all grounds, right? And they're like, it's a burrito. It's got everything in it.
Starting point is 00:29:05 It covers everything you need, all your bases. And that's the burrito OS option select, you know. So now we're going into other wraps and shorama based, you know, there's a souvlaki OS. coming out there, I'm sure. If this was on stream, but I was like, you know, I'll watch say jam stuff. And, and like you get this thing, which I feel like you and I rarely get now. So you a say jam fan now? Yeah, he does great videos.
Starting point is 00:29:30 He's a, he's a smart, talented, interesting, handsome man. Yeah, I'm aware. Yeah, I'm aware. Okay. But the thing that we don't usually get to do is I don't usually watch a lot of YouTubers or streamers anymore. So that, that urge to be like, no, man. like to reach through and leave the comment just doesn't factor in anymore.
Starting point is 00:29:52 But I got my chance because I'm watching Secham go through like Darius and he's explaining the burrito for example and he's like, nah, the burrito's fake. You can just get through it. And you know, Darius's pole isn't very good because you just learn to parry it. And I'm like, Say Jam, you were talking about Darius's hook
Starting point is 00:30:11 and how it's too slow and you just learn to parry it. And I'm like, but it's hard. He goes, yeah, yeah, but you get used to it. And he goes, yeah, if you're streaming fighting games five days a week. So that exact line, so, okay, I had one of those exactly was me going, but it's hard, Justin Wong. Yeah, it's hard to do that.
Starting point is 00:30:37 It is difficult to do. Yes. Yeah, the answer's right there. Yeah, yeah, you just learned to do it. Like, not me. Maybe. No, because, and the thing is, like, because San Jem is also, like,
Starting point is 00:30:50 fighting against the discourse against backdashing, right? You mean car crash neutral? Car crash neutral, right? Yes, y'all are going to learn. Y'all are going to learn how to survive without car crash neutral, right? We briefly talked about that,
Starting point is 00:31:07 and I'm like, dude, I love that subreddit, and it's because it's like, because it's not fighting game salt. It's league salt being filtered through a fighting game and it's crazy. It's like, it's just the shittiest fucking opinions ever. Now, now, Supernoon has a point in that whether, when you look at Street Fighter 6, when you look at Tech and 8, when you look at Grand Blue Fantasy, when you look at all of the new
Starting point is 00:31:36 current games, there is, rush in fast enough. There is a thing that just goes, yeah, I'm coming at you, right? Everyone's got a humongous, body torpedo that is armored and starts a combo. Right, right. Pull up. Right, exactly. But, and like if you're an old school player, you're like, I hate this shit. Fuck this, right?
Starting point is 00:31:57 Just car crash neutral. But the idea of someone just being like round start and I'm mashing back dash. I don't know what I'm doing. I'm afraid to engage. But then you're actually playing defensive. And I'm hoping for my assist to touch you. And then I'll tag to that and then we'll get going from there. You can counterplay that.
Starting point is 00:32:14 I can't remember if it was Sage Amher. or diaphone that I was watching, but they basically described it. That, that behavior into XCO of just jumping back assist, like nonstop is the same thing as when you see people in like mid ranks of Street Fighter just wiggle around in footsies, but they don't know why they're wiggling around. They just see pro players walk back and forth. I guess you're supposed to walk back and forth. And the example as well that he gave of like, it's up back with Ken just doing jump air roundhouse.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Yeah. jump and then eventually you get up close and they do a sweep and then they just get up and they do neutral jump jump jump jump jump jump jump and you're just like okay okay right you're you're like I don't know what I'm doing and I'm afraid so this is going to be safe I have one other option right exactly and uh you know there is a very clear like you can just calm down and like let them do the repetitive thing and then be ready to counterplay it what sucks is is when you calm down and then you get ready to counterplay it and then you miss or or like their their jump or their assist jumps in and like is like the timing of that is just the exact moment I I tapped forward was when that
Starting point is 00:33:26 assist appeared fuck you know so yeah there's a little bit of that going on and um there is something too as well where like assists come out insanely fast you know like you can when you find that you hit one out of the way when they jump in or stuff you got lucky a lot of the time like that was just a you're looking at the timing going probably now, but I don't know for sure. And people are kind of afraid of the idea of like, okay, if we just rush up to each other and wiggle around and press our medium buttons, one of us is going to get hit by it, but I don't know which one it's going to be. Therefore, I'm just not, I'm going to mitigate all chances. Oh my God, he's clowning on you in the comments for the announcement of the player. Oh!
Starting point is 00:34:08 I'm going to send you a fucking screenshot. I'm going to screen his screen his screen because the, the, the, the, the, the, the, The video on his channel went up that's like announcing the players and like every comment he can find that is like Oh fucking rip wully dad brain. That's the little say jam. He's liking them. You son of a bitch. Man, I can't stand that man, say jam. God damn it.
Starting point is 00:34:37 You fuck. Okay. Oh, you're getting fucked on. Man. You could have just lefted it, yo. Oh, no. No. Oh.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Oh. God damn. Why use it? All right. Oh, I'm going to talk so much shit about him to my baby. I'm a fucking, I'm going to tell my daughter to hate say jam. Fuck that. No one hates say jam.
Starting point is 00:35:05 I'm a start early. Start early. Start early. Exactly. Just play the Giuna clips over and over. I can't stand, Seajam. There was such a weird fucking moment
Starting point is 00:35:16 hanging out with all these these proper professional street fighter character, fighting game players and Seajam and all these content creators. And just this moment of like, oh man, I wonder what the next character's going to be
Starting point is 00:35:30 fucking dead silence. Just dead. Yeah. Just I couldn't have been. Not even, I wonder. Not even like, huh?
Starting point is 00:35:39 Nah, nah. Bro, bro. You're not. within friend DA privileges all right you don't get access to friend DA you know you're not there yet you got to earn that
Starting point is 00:35:50 right when you get that when you get that secret invite to the Illuminati discord yeah yeah the back rooms right yeah just make sure to I'll just make sure to click on that invite before it expires that would be a good idea
Starting point is 00:36:05 um yeah so so everyone tune in and lend patch your energy. I need it. I need it. You remember to do your proper mushroom setups.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Oh, I can't do that shit. I can't do that shit. Oh, yeah, you don't have... No, Wully, Willie, when I tell you, watch out, watch out, watch out. Wully, you can go watch the footage. If I will tell you, I cannot do a Timo combo worth a shit. Oh.
Starting point is 00:36:42 His tick throw the best player in the world like five times in a match. And like I will turn whatever game I am playing into fucking Street Fighter 2 with Geef. I'll do it. Okay. You got those grabs. You got those grabs. All right. Damn.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Yeah, no. I mean, the answer is always you should detect it. That's their fault. Cool. So what else is going on? All right. What else is going on? I'm clowned up today, obviously.
Starting point is 00:37:15 But I have a clown-based announcement for everyone. So it's actually quite warm in my office right now, which is what sucks that I'm holding this hoodie together. But you see, I've gone back to the first clown look that we did a couple weeks ago. Also, somebody says that this is the last clown week. No, I'm not doing it. When I say a month of clown on the podcast, that's not 28 days. that's that's five podcasts committal right no the real thing is that uh i've been talking with bricky
Starting point is 00:37:48 lately and there are now pat clown shirt pat's clown over at orchid delight i'm posting the link in the chat you can go to my blue sky how do you spell that uh orchid delight let me i should check shop dot or or orc h-i-d-d- E-I-G
Starting point is 00:38:14 oh it's Orchid 8 I'm an idiot That's important That is important That is extraordinarily important Aren't you Aren't you glad I asked you how to spell that?
Starting point is 00:38:29 It's so good that you asked me that That's a very important detail Oh well walk-a-waka-waka I'm a clown Orchidate.com. Shop.orgate 8. Okay. Yes, these are limited time clown shirts. These will be going away in a couple of weeks.
Starting point is 00:38:48 I believe the final day is November 8th. If you want them, buy them. I'm wearing it. It's very nice on my boobs. Up to 6XL. Yes. For you, for you like big boys, big girls out there.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Okay, I think if you order a 6XL, you can fit into a five, you just want that extra comfort. I think that has to be what's going on. If you order 6xel, you want to put it on your like boyfriend or husband and then like once it gets that smell, you want to take it off the boyfriend or husband and then just use it as a full on blanket. Blanket. That's the, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:19 I can see as well that this is O'Courn as it has the updated mutton chop in purple as as part of the design as well. So this is, no, no, no. That is just the, that's the. That's the ginger. Okay. Okay. There you go.
Starting point is 00:39:39 That's, that's the red, man. That's, that's my regular one. This is based off of my first clown appearance. I was going to say you, because I was going to say you went back to first clown,
Starting point is 00:39:47 but that's, that's default. Yes. This is the, this is that's default clown situation. Okay. Okay. Um,
Starting point is 00:39:54 that is proper promotion. So please go buy as many of those shirts as you want. Until November 8th. And then it's too late. It's too late after that. Pat, you neglected to mention that it comes with three clown stickers. Yeah, by the way, those clown stickers are actually huge. They're way bigger than I thought they were.
Starting point is 00:40:18 They're like the size of my fist. Granted, I have a tiny baby man's fist, but they're much larger. They're actually like to scale in the photo. All right. Well, mine is now on the way. Oh, yeah. Okay. So I'm going to have your woolly doll.
Starting point is 00:40:34 There you go. I can kiss on that and you're going to have my face on your chest. There you go. And you just spill things on me. Available now at Orchid Delight. Yes. Thank you. That's,
Starting point is 00:40:46 fuck. You fool. Don't send this to Bricky. Don't send this. You absolute buff. I've been having such a good time talking with Bricky lately. No, I'll tell you what. I've been having like, aside from getting into the slam and aside from hanging out with Bricky,
Starting point is 00:41:01 I've had like a stressful week. My internet just started to die. I was talking, I'll bet this a little bit beforehand. But like anybody who's tried to watch any of the streams I've done since Thursday, cataclysmic, just completely fucking fell apart. I usually stream at 20,000 KBBS, which is nice at 1440p. 60. It looks really nice. Just down to fucking zero frames.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Down to zero fucking frame. Down to nothing. And I had the ISP man out here this morning. morning, the technician, which thank God I got him so quickly. And he gave me a new router, a fancy router. He upgraded my service, faster internet. And he gets all set up. And it works. And I'm like, and he's like, cool. And then like, he's leaving and he's in my yard. And I'm like, I'm going to run a fucking speed test on nuclear right now. And I run it. And it, it kicks back like fucking 10 megabits. And it's like the upload is nothing.
Starting point is 00:42:01 And I'm like, I actually I have the baby on my shoulder, on my shoulder, like a potato chasing after this dude in my ear, go, hey, hey, wait, wait, come back in. It broke when you started to leave. You can get some potato quality streams going, but I think you need at least one frame.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Yeah, no. And so he comes back in. And I'm like, yeah, so I appointed the office setup. I go, I do live streaming. I work every day. I really, I really, need you to fix this and he starts to get stressed out
Starting point is 00:42:35 and he pulls out his phone and calls like his boss and he's like yeah and he's explaining the problem and you know when you hear a technician or a plumber or a tradesman explain a problem to somebody on the phone and it's very obvious that they don't know what to tell him the fucking customer
Starting point is 00:42:51 but I'm a customer I'm standing right there and so the second guy comes out and the second guy fucking fucks with it and he installs a attenuator or something some shit and says, ah, the modem's got to learn to love it or whatever the fuck. And then they tell me about the, the lasers in my region need replacing. And I'm just like, is it fucking fixed or not?
Starting point is 00:43:15 No problem makes you feel like more of a helpless baby than the internet goes down. And you're like, well, I just can't do anything. I need the internet to go up. I know I'm in the hustle economy here. You can't even pretend, you know? Like something goes wrong. on the car and like some real man comes around and starts
Starting point is 00:43:35 fixing it and you can stand and you stand around and you can just be like mm yeah yeah must have been the carburetor you know apparently the signal coming into my house is too hot whatever the fuck that means and because it's so
Starting point is 00:43:51 hot it's hitting my modem and going wum mom mom mom mom mom so they installed a little gate to fucking tell it to calm down and now it's not vibrating as hard. And I'm like,
Starting point is 00:44:03 I'm talking about a signal? What do you mean? It's too hot. It's heat. He's like, well, no. And he showed me,
Starting point is 00:44:11 like, hold open, like, not like a, like a tablet, but like a, like a, engineer's tablet.
Starting point is 00:44:16 And he's like, well, see, these are the uncorrectable errors. And I don't fucking know what that fucking means. I don't know what it works now. The stream is fine. I ran,
Starting point is 00:44:26 I ran a, like, a Twitch inspector stream for like multiple hours. Zero drop frames. Hey, woo. But like, just this thing of like, I gotta fucking get out there, man. Like, I got things I gotta do.
Starting point is 00:44:40 No, I, when I switched to fiber and I saw the numbers go burr and I was like, yay. Yeah. But then every once in a while, they would stop going burr and go dead silent and then come back. And I'd be like, I don't like this like side thing, you know. and also I remember asking the technician I was like so I've heard that like if the wire bends even a little bit
Starting point is 00:45:05 it's just fucked forever and he's like okay the wire inside your house no right like this part to this part going out here to this wall is fine and then obviously you're running your cat six cable and whatever and so on
Starting point is 00:45:19 but the part outside your house going to the fiber thing that cannot move but like a fucking tree could fall on it or like a tall truck go fuck yourself the elements say eat shit right fiber is nice the fiber is nice until like god coughs
Starting point is 00:45:41 you know yeah so but yeah no I had this thing and then Paige ended up getting up after because I take the baby in the morning she ended up getting up after all was said and done and she's like internet fix I'm like yeah she's like great and I'm just like sitting there like stare at like my my fucking elbows are on my knees I'm just stare at the fucking ground going okay sidebar sidebar because there are definitely
Starting point is 00:46:08 network technicians listening to this right now desperately trying to make it look like they're busy at their jobs which they've gotten very good at taking a 15 minute problem and turning it into a three hour problem and I applaud you truly make no mistake the stolen wages are still going to be on the company's benefit, but you're doing your thing out there and you're trying. Oh, you see, oh, I see some of them. You already caught a couple. All right.
Starting point is 00:46:35 So can you guys, okay, well, listen, I won't expose you, but can you confirm a piece of information for me? Is it true? Because I know when we all moved from cat five to cat six cable, right? But is it true that seven and eight are pretty much bullshit and are kind of just marketing scams that are not real, but like six is more than fine for anything. commercial, non-commercial, anything residential, essentially. Because I was reading about it and it was kind of like, oh, if you go and get like yourself a cat-8 cable or whatever, it's like, you don't need that in your house.
Starting point is 00:47:04 And it's not going to make a difference with what the, what kind of pipe is coming your way. But it's new, though. Okay. People are saying you're kind of on the, on the ball with this. Okay. Because I hear, yes, most people, cat six is you're going to get everything you need from that. I got, I got like the strangest. Like you ever have somebody like you appreciate somebody willing to talk inside baseball about their profession to you when they're at your house or whatever?
Starting point is 00:47:31 I do appreciate that. And I love it. And then I got one today that was like I actually didn't want this about like the internet service. So like the conversation came up that I'm a residential customer and I'm not a business customer. And the reason why this came up is because on the phone he said, yeah, guys running his home business out of his. fucking house and apparently four guys in their office leapt to their feet because they overheard the other guys say he's a business customer because they just sit around all day waiting for like the ATMs in gas stations to fail oh shit like there's like an entire team of business guys
Starting point is 00:48:18 okay this internet customers that exist exclusively for the grocery store. checkout connection to fail. Yeah. They need to be there and they need to be fixed now. Yeah. And so like as I as they're like no he's a residential customer, they all just went. Oh. And like sat back in their chairs and went back to like doodling on their fucking phones.
Starting point is 00:48:42 I think the last. And then the guy telling me that story says, hey, by the way, you know, like you're not going to get like better service if you're a business customer. Just more guys will show up to your house. Yeah. Perfect. That's good. That's good. Looking busy. Looking good. Looking good, looking good folks, you know. Yeah. Bring them all some lemonade. Um, no, the only time I think, uh, like recently or so that I've, that I've had something like word made a difference was heading down to the bank in person. And it was like, oh, wait, I have a business card. I can therefore go to the business line. And so you walk past the plebian line and you go to the business line. I'm a big boy and I do big boy business. And then you get there and you're like, yeah, can I take out $30 please with my fucking, you know, with my business debit.
Starting point is 00:49:43 You know, and they're like, sure, man. I like, we're here for payroll because people show up to do their payroll shit, you know, but technically your card says business. Payroll in person in this day and age and Lord's Own 2025. There's whatever something, there's people that line up there to do stuff and they walk in with lots of papers to do the business line. Oh, that's fucking insane. You know, and I'm like, I need, I'd like $30, please. That's crazy. But anyways.
Starting point is 00:50:14 Cool, cool. What else did I do this? So I can't remember what I did this week because what I did this week got fucked up. so many times. Like I wanted to tell you about more Digimon stuff. I wanted to tell you about the experience of leading page through Rory2 Blind,
Starting point is 00:50:35 which is going to leave, if not for the disastrous internet things. The only thing I can tell you is that I played Tormented Souls 2, which is a Resident Evil-like. It is the sequel to a different indie game. called Tormented Souls 1. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:56 It is, hey man, do you like old style tank control Resident Evil games? And I go, yes! Yes, I fucking do. I absolutely do. And it is a really, really excellent version of one of those games. It's spooky. It has incredible environmental detail. It has absolutely fiendish puzzles.
Starting point is 00:51:19 I got a code for it. Yeah, well, I was about to say, like, if I'm sure you got an email that's like, hey, we noticed you played Signallis and Crow Country. That is literally. So, we're emailing you this because shut the fuck up and put it in. You're going to like it. Idiot. Absolutely. Yeah, all right. But with that came, hey, by the way, here's the puzzle guide for reviewers. Okay. And I was like, I don't fucking need that. I did. I do.
Starting point is 00:51:50 need that shit. The puzzles in Tormented Souls 2 are really hard. They're really hard. They're like kind of diabolical, especially after I just went through Silent Hill F, the puzzles in that game are like a joke compared to Tormented
Starting point is 00:52:07 Souls 2. Okay, now are we talking puzzles in the Silent Hill the solution is outside the game knowledge sense or in the you can use what's in front of you to logic it together. You can use what's in front of you but like it it requires a certain degree of intuition.
Starting point is 00:52:28 Okay. That is, is like, like, they really want you to fucking pay attention to everything. Okay. Like, it kind of kicked my ass. That being said, it's also, like, much larger in scope than the first game. The first game took place nearly entirely in, like, a mental hospital. and this one takes place in like an evil convent and then I
Starting point is 00:52:56 defeated the convent and then left the convent and went into the town and then I did the mall and then I did the process of the thing and it's like it goes from Resident Evil homage to Silent Hill 3 homage. Okay. And it's really cool. It's just a really, really cool, excellent game.
Starting point is 00:53:16 I'm going to go back to it this week because I now have working internet and I can. and I'm going to go back to I'm going to go back to Digimon this week like a big boy because I can and that's my current plans
Starting point is 00:53:29 I also am doing a sponsored show for gloomy eyes on Halloween and we're going to do an R.A.2 one on Halloween and I have a Dragon Quest 1 plus 2 HD remake sponsored stream on Thursday, the 30th.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Okay. Oh, I tried to play power wash simulator too with Bricky and we discovered that the game's multiplayer just doesn't work at all. Oh great, great. Yeah. Like that changed together problem I had just now. Nothing. Sick. Absolutely nothing. Afterthought. And, uh, well, it's like a primary fucking function of the game. And you know when you know it's really bad when I refunded it on Steam and you know the drop down thing that's like, what is your issue with the game? The first one at the top is the multiplayer doesn't work. And I'm like, that seems like it's the most common refund reason if it's at the top.
Starting point is 00:54:26 That's fucking sucks, man. Damn. Yeah. Okay. Solva says Power Watch one head multiplayer and it also didn't work. That's fucking hilarious. So they just never fixed it and put a sequel out. That's really fucking phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Yeah. I was talking about when we were talking about Digimon the other day and I was curious and um additional monsters yeah no uh because we're talking about like i mentioned like cyber sleuth was like a thing i was considering at some point and uh i did get confirmation um from uh oh yeah no shout outs to crem to poof and an inlaw who let me know that the new one doesn't have any connection to the previous ones and totally stand alone and it doesn't matter if you played cyber sleuth totally stand alone i should have mentioned that that's pretty solid information that you don't
Starting point is 00:55:17 need to know anything about the rest and you can just jump in there. Yeah, man, you know what you need to know is the Digimon stand is short for a digital monster. Okay. But they'll tell you that actually. Are they the champions? That has not come up as of yet. But maybe it will.
Starting point is 00:55:36 Maybe it will. Cool. All right. Is there anything else that's going on with me? Nah. nah go out of Twitch.
Starting point is 00:55:49 tv slash pat stares at and YouTube dot com slash pat stares at I do streams again hooray
Starting point is 00:55:54 what's up with you man um yeah unfortunately not not much um you know
Starting point is 00:56:05 this week just stuff going on but the the main thing I just played a little bit more silk song
Starting point is 00:56:14 um all I really You're getting there, right? You're closing in. A bit, but not that much because like all I did was I went down to the abyss and made it back up. That's kind of a fucking huge step.
Starting point is 00:56:34 You're in there. So that platform, I'm not going to fall for the bait. I'm not going to fall for the bait of looking at dots on the map and thinking, this is surely the final stretch until I make it where I need to towards the end or whatever. But that platforming that you do to make it out of there is like
Starting point is 00:56:56 that's hell of tense. That's a little like, oh, okay. You're asking, you're doing what you do. That's the platforming only had one or two moments that were like pushing it before that. And then here's one where they go, here's a boss fight that's a platforming segment.
Starting point is 00:57:13 You know. You want to hear the craziest thing. somebody came into my stream this week and said, did you know that they actually patched Savage Beasts Fly 2 and the platforming section to be different? They're separated now. Oh. Huh.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Isn't that fucking crazy? You accessed them apart from each other? Yeah, so they moved Savage Beasts Fly over to a different lava area and then the platforming segments to see. Whoa. Interesting. Okay. Yeah, I mean, it was in your way.
Starting point is 00:57:47 It was in your way. So, um, but yeah, I know that's, that's, that's, that's kind of it. And, um, I do thoroughly appreciate the equivalent of fast travel. Like, no, no, the third form of fast travel that you get. That's like, shut the fuck up super travel fast travel. Um, because, um, in Silk Song, it's rather in Hollow Night, um, that was a really nice time saver, but the limitation on it was very like,
Starting point is 00:58:19 pick your spot, that's where you're going to go. It's still kind of like that. It's still kind of like that. Yeah, but it gives you more freedom, right, to hit the, the, the Bell Beast, essentially, because you had, you had, you had, you had, you had, your, your, one-way travel, essentially in Hollow Night.
Starting point is 00:58:39 Um, and I pretty much kept it at the home city. and like there were times where I was like I'm grinding out this one thing I want to put it elsewhere but the track back is such a pain in the ass you know and so you'd feel bad for doing that and stuff and you're like I'm far enough into it that I want to skip past a lot of this
Starting point is 00:58:59 you know and I would say that like they gave it right around the perfect time in Act 3 where you're like choosing to expose yourself to as much or as little of the reformed map as possible because truthfully I don't want to actually scrape the entire Act 3 map and see all the new shit.
Starting point is 00:59:17 Like I, I, there's new shit in that Act 3 map that I didn't do. Yeah. And I still got 100%, which is the weirdest part. Oh, okay. Okay. Well, the invisible 100% right. Well, no, no, no. There's, 100% counts like items and, and items from bosses and like everything that
Starting point is 00:59:36 ticks the counters up, right? I, um, I can tell within me that I'm like, I don't have enough left in me to do this full map scrape traversal again. I just don't want to. I want to see some cool things and then have a nice denouement, you know, and make my way out. So I will see what I feel like rooms I run into. I'm going to turn your volume up a little bit more. There we go.
Starting point is 01:00:09 I'm going to see what I feel like touching on. now everyone. You're quite a bit louder in my ears. Oh, yeah. God fucking damn it. It's cool. Don't worry about it. And that's kind of the idea, you know, is like, I can look and go, I don't want all of this,
Starting point is 01:00:33 but I do want to see what's going on in this area that seems like cool. Yeah. Yeah. And like, you walk into that one room in Act 2 and you go, oh, there's some good shit in this room, right? Fucking terracotta warriors standing on guard and you're like, I like this room. I like the cut of this
Starting point is 01:00:51 gym. There's some cool old people standing around and here with some big swords. Tell me about that. And they're like, yo, go back to that room and I'm like, yeah. So that's the shit where I'm like, I can't get there fast enough, you know? But beyond that, I'm also like looking at
Starting point is 01:01:07 some zones and I'm like, fuck everything poison related forever, even if I have the thing that mitigates it because it doesn't even mitigate it entirely, you know? Nah. So, yeah, that's pretty much it. Just poking at Silk Song a bit. And obviously, to XCO, that continues as well.
Starting point is 01:01:25 I can, I am, this is one of those bits where I'm just like, all right. Can, is there any reasonable way? I'm looking at it. I'm like, is there any reasonable world where I could hit Challenger? And it's like, get the fuck out of here. here because I was talking to to Javier about this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Challenger's top 100.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Yeah. But the guys that are, I thought it's top five. No, it's top 100. Top one. Okay, legend is top five. But the problem is, is that in Challenger, like guys like noon and void and shit like that, they're just grinding all day. They live.
Starting point is 01:02:02 That's all you see. And so the top 100 LP, it's getting farther and farther away from you every day. Yes. You will never catch up with hook gang God. It's impossible. You will never catch up with nerd. Josh, it's impossible. They're just living and breathing.
Starting point is 01:02:17 I mean, dude's fucking help and balance. But like, I have a friend from, so one of the best Nether Realm players is Hayate. He's from Montreal. Shout out, good, good, homie. He's been breathing this game every day. And he's on the challenger list. And like, yeah, it's got to be your oxygen. It's your fucking morning, noon, and night, you know?
Starting point is 01:02:40 And even if you are. are like, even if you have the skill in some, if you found, if you got all the tech and were just that nice with it, like the rate of matches. Yeah, no, I got, this whole thing set me up really bad because like I'm playing a match against fucking a team of Cody and Supernoon. And it's me and say jam. And like, we lose. And he's like, don't worry about it.
Starting point is 01:03:08 These guys are fucking jobless sweats. They got no fucking jobs. And I'm like, I don't know, these guys well enough? Do you guys not have jobs? As like, no, no, no. Their job is to fucking get good at 2XCO. You'll never catch it. They'll never catch up.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Yeah. As, you know, just to say, like, the job is to be a consistent streamer now. The job is to make the content, you know? It's like, Kizzy, yeah, sure, you could go out there in Windows tournaments. But how about you post more clips with a bonk coconut noise when you land an overhead on somebody? No. You know, Tunk.
Starting point is 01:03:45 You know, anyways, suffice to say that, I think we're going to have a sort of strive celestial floor kind of vibe to Grandmaster. Eventually. Because, like,
Starting point is 01:04:02 as I'm crossing the threshold and I'm like, hey, cool, I got here. And the distance between me and the people in whatever, like, bronze or whatever the lower, you know, the distance between people at the beginning and where I am versus the distance between where that as and fucking top of challenger is orders of magnitude.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Equivalent. Orders of magnitude. Well, here's the thing. It's like when you say the bottom, like you don't really, like the bottom is a person who's playing their first match. And that, that jump from that to you is like infinite to most people. But I guess what would happen? I think basically it's better to have a larger number
Starting point is 01:04:47 for whatever your true rank Elo category is. So Street Fighter 6 has a problem with legend because there's 500, which is okay, that's cool, but there's an issue with Japan and the way you earn points over in Japan is way easier than the way you earn points in North America. Oh, is that true? Yeah, there's an issue with that where people that are, are like better players. You can go to Japan and like shoot the fuck up because the matches you're getting
Starting point is 01:05:13 reward more compared to the points you get. That's fucking racist. They want Japanese players at the top of the rankings. That's crazy. It's because of the amount of players and the distribution and the way the math works out. People are talking about how like, yeah, ranked in Japan speeds you the fuck up to the top of legend. That's super funny, man.
Starting point is 01:05:37 with your master point distribution compared to North America and elsewhere, right? The density makes a difference. So that sucks, you know, and not to mention as well, like you're getting pocketed. You're getting pockets of players where you might run into the same people in your state or province often that are in your ranking all week long, you know, and Japan, smaller area, dense population, skill level, etc. You're getting more varied matches against, you know, these different players. So, um, but anyway, all this to say that, uh, and I think, um, DNF, like at the top ranking, it got, it counted like the top thousand or something to that effect. But they're basically hit, you hit a point where you're like, okay, just show me the number because everything
Starting point is 01:06:20 above this, uh, doesn't really matter, you know? Um, what was wild though, what you probably never want to do again was, I don't know if you remember in Street Fighter 5 when you finished your like ranking first matches or whatever. It goes, all right, cool. You are now. 700,000th I actually really love that On the list It's like What the fuck are you doing
Starting point is 01:06:47 You're telling me my rank is Six digits Dude I love I love that because it gave you Such a clear Like focus for improvement Like it wasn't an obvious skated Like I mean there was bronze
Starting point is 01:07:01 And ironing Yeah there was there was But like hey I want up a fucking thousand ranks today Yeah, yeah, no, you went from 700,000th to like top 200,000. Congratulations. That's crazy. That's incredible. That's so much progress. You're nuts, you know?
Starting point is 01:07:17 And then you get down to like four digits and you're like, wow. Wow. Right? That's less than the number of entrants at Evo. That's crazy. I'm amazing. I'm a God. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:30 It's just, it's insane to just be like your rank is longer than your fucking bank account number, you know? Anyway, anyway, so that's pretty much it. Not much else there. However, this week on the schedule over on Twitch.tv.tv slash willieversus as well as
Starting point is 01:07:51 YouTube.com slash woolly versus. Going to, we did our chill stream. We had some opinions. We had some takes. I fucking loved like going in there. It's the chill stream of opinions because like I wanted I wanted worse opinions I got to be fair like I caught in there and you were talking about like I just caught a bunch of
Starting point is 01:08:14 X-Files episodes at random I'm like yeah that's actually like literally what happened to every single person our age that's not a bad opinion at all X-Files is cowboy bebop how about that it is it is how about that the beginning and ending of every season is the conspiracy which kind of sucks and then in the middle it's like what if what if what if you went to uh what if oh god what if you fought a blackula or the jersey devil or molder got eaten by a mushroom in the entire episode's fake or a water monster during a hurricane or the time that they went to a homeowner's association neighborhood and they had accidentally summoned a trash golem that would kill you if your grass was too long right um and then and then
Starting point is 01:09:03 the other bit was, and this is, can you confirm, like, the lone gunman was, like, the shit and amazing and this... Oh, I didn't watch the lone gunman. Okay. The lone gunmen in the show were actually really cool side characters, but I would say that that's where they should have stayed.
Starting point is 01:09:20 I have no desire to watch a lone gunman TV show. Ah. Because I've heard it referred to as, like, a really good spinoff where, like, it's a good short show with all these, with these interesting characters. And they just kind of said, fuck it at the end and destroyed all chance of them, you know, being their own thing or in the future or whatever the case is, you know. But I've heard it, I've heard it referred to almost like Torchwood, which was like a Doctor Who spin-off show that was like successful in its own right, doing its own thing. You know, it's like sometimes the little spin-off series takes off and does its own bit.
Starting point is 01:09:56 And I heard the lone gunman referred to as like pretty solid. I don't know. Um, in any case. So really, it's a really troubling issue with X-Files that the conspiracy episodes are by far the most boring, except they feature the more famous than the X-Files cigarette smoking man. Yes. Who is just the absolute best fucking villain I have ever seen in anything. Because all he does is stand in kind of half shadow and smoke like a lot and say like two cryptic,
Starting point is 01:10:31 cryptic things and then like walk away and disappear. Because you what? That's it. I'm so evil. No. And I understand the idea of like this is the dude in the shadows standing behind Ronald Reagan. You know,
Starting point is 01:10:44 as he's as he's lining up the fucking, the little envelope that says crack on it. You know? And it's like, yes, this is the shadows, the agent, the G man,
Starting point is 01:10:53 you know, that's making it all happen. And for some reason, my last memories of him are just in a cave. I don't know. You're right. Okay. You're right.
Starting point is 01:11:05 I didn't hallucinate. No, that definitely did happen. But, yeah, so we did that, and then we're going to try sprinkling on an extra stream or two this week. So Thursday, we will be jumping back in to Act 2 of Expedition 33. Oh, there we go. It's been waiting for this one. that will resume and back to get into fighting games on Saturday as well. Jimmy Bones is going to come over.
Starting point is 01:11:40 I'll rather, excuse me, Uncle Jimmy, as he goes by now. And yeah, we're going to do some 2X, some double cross knockout. Will he eventually have to turn that to Unk, Jimmy? I think he had the choice to and he decided not to. I think he's going with just Uncle Jimmy for now. But the branding might, who knows, you know, you start off as a Snoop Dog horror character and you can go anywhere from that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:05 So we'll see how this goes. And full disclosure, it might go terribly. And I might have to dial back to less days the week after. But we'll see. Oh, you're good. I don't want to put anyone's expectations up. Oh, you're a smart guy. But like resuming the LP is one thing where I'm like, I don't want to fucking be like,
Starting point is 01:12:29 ah, shit, sorry, you know, break again. But we're just, yeah, taking the time to do more. Whatever, baby take time. All right. There. Yeah. Babies take time. Well, luck, I mean, luckily, the baby's just like, like right over there.
Starting point is 01:12:50 It's like she's right over there. Yeah, but she's getting more complex. It's not getting simpler. Yeah, so that's the problem is, it's so. The hellraiser fucking Rubik's Cube is just, there's new fast. It's inside. So, like, hey, when does it get easier and when is it less stressful? When they go to school and then you'll want to die because you're going to miss your best friend every day.
Starting point is 01:13:13 Oh. Right. And that's why you get one of these ugly little dogs. Because I'm at the time right now where my guy, I'll give him a hug. I don't like this. Mm-hmm. I want down. Thank you, Deda.
Starting point is 01:13:29 Thank you for down. I'm like, okay. I'm going to just pick up the dog and just be like Yeah, like Her farts just started smelling, man I'm just like, yo what the fuck What's going on in that stomach? What's happening there? This is, whatever it is, I know that
Starting point is 01:13:47 Whatever it is, it's happening the first time And it's a premonition for something that's about to That's about to come. I'm like, oh, a change has occurred Your farts now smell. I know that this means something. You know, I'm piecing together the language clues for what the fuck that's about to be. Yeah, anyways. All right.
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Starting point is 01:28:45 Oh, that one, huh? Yeah, it seems to be a cursed, cursed game. I can't remember the last time I've seen so many ebbs and so many flows before, uh, another product has been announced. Oh. Why is he so excited? I think the idea of crafting an AI
Starting point is 01:29:07 first company is making boost. Oh, it's activated caboose. This is making boost get up and start moving. Yeah, man. This sucks. So, you know,
Starting point is 01:29:19 looking at this from the high fire rush perspective, hey, amazing game out of nowhere. Wow. Overnight success. Oh, great. for no reason literally actually no reason even on the books amazing shut it to shut it all down
Starting point is 01:29:34 no wait from off the ground like Napoleon Crafton has picked up Tango Gameworks and placed it upon its head and then everyone's like yay high fire rush this great game that didn't deserve to get trashed for succeeding has a chance now
Starting point is 01:29:54 and said company announced with their ownership of PubG Subnotica and Tango, that they're now an AI first company with automated work, AI-centric HR management systems and workflows, in-game AI, full company lighting. So I talked about this earlier this week, and I feel like there's two things that could be happening here.
Starting point is 01:30:16 One is this is one of those things that a bunch of the fucking subhuman business freaks at the top just say and just tell everybody below them to just do it and don't understand like don't even take steps to implement it themselves. It's just like, yeah, we're doing AI now. Yeah. But the other thing is that if I was
Starting point is 01:30:37 a person working at Tango GameWorks, particularly in management, I would embark upon the Mel Brooks style of big wig management, which is designate one person on the team, but you are no longer
Starting point is 01:30:53 working on the game. What you are is fabricating nonsense. to distract the person who is directly above me. Yes. You are here to doctor up AI reports. Yes. Like fabricate meetings out of nothing. Just lie.
Starting point is 01:31:12 Just lie like crazy. Well, the people who are pushing the actual AI is going to save the company thing are lying harder and bigger in contributing to this bubble that everyone knows is a bubble. Oh, that's the problem, Willie. I have been, I'm constantly looking in on this. They believe it. So, but that's the, that's the problem. They're not lying.
Starting point is 01:31:38 They actually think that the AI can do your job. So there are, they don't do any work. There are, amongst the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, there are people who are basically, I know it's, right? right especially the ones who are watching it fail in front of them every day for example like if you're staring at this thing that's supposed to save the company all of these millions of dollars and billions of dollars and it's not happening you can see it fucking printing out a uh a dick butt and go huh well okay can i get out before anyone notices with my money bags is always the question can you time the market.
Starting point is 01:32:22 It's amazing because I've seen the latest statistic was like, this is now eight times the size of the dot-com bubble. Oh, yeah. I saw like an argument that it could be up to 20 times as big. Hypothetically. By the time it bursts. You know, and it represents 99% of US GDP growth this year. I mean, you know, never.
Starting point is 01:32:48 And like that, I was touching on this on the. on the chill stream, but just like, yeah, the part where you're more or less pitching or selling the idea that this is general intelligence and that it's totally the same and everything is going to magically overnight replace all your workers and it's all going to work amazingly well. I don't know if you fucking saw Albania has an AI minister. Yeah, that's part of the cabinet. I think, like, yeah, I saw this summed up perfectly like 18 months ago, which was AI is not good enough to do your job.
Starting point is 01:33:25 And she's pregnant, yeah. It's good enough to fool your boss who doesn't know how your job works into thinking that it can do your job. That's correct. Yeah. Like, that's it. Anyways, so that fucking sucks. And it's like, you know, was High Fire Rush saved or was it bitten by a zombie? we'll see if the corpse animated we saw it get back up but we haven't seen it speak or we haven't
Starting point is 01:33:58 heard it speak yet hmm hmm it's kind of shuffling around a little bit you know um okay beyond that um and speaking of the the crashes you dump everything into this bullshit and it's just again it's exhausting and boring to talk about it's very exhausting um it's just kind of funny because I just, whenever you get the numbers on these things, it's so you kind of just go like, okay. So Bloomberg, recently looked into the Microsoft numbers. And what they have is,
Starting point is 01:34:33 yeah, the euphemism they use at Microsoft is accountability margins to describe profit margins essentially, which is, it's just an interesting way of phrasing it, you know? It's like, no, no, it's not a profit margin. It's accountability. It's something that you need to be responsible
Starting point is 01:34:49 for. It's what you are, it's, it is what your due diligence is to deliver on accountability, right? Anyway, um, so, uh, basically, long story short, the global video games market saw a massive high of, um, profit margins reaching like 22% during COVID when things, it'll ever be, when, when things were popping the fuck off during 2020 and 2021, because yes, exactly, everyone was home and had very little else to do but play some fucking video games. And then that dropped it down to an average of about 17% last year in 2024. That's not a bad number. That's where the market tends to sit right now.
Starting point is 01:35:34 But Microsoft's chief financial officer, they set a target of 30% for Xbox to deliver as of 2023 moving forward. So, uh, Glutton's unsatisfied with all the riches of heaven looking at the 22% margins that were happening during the peak of COVID gaming. They're like, nah, highest revenue to ever happen for video games ever.
Starting point is 01:36:05 Nah, fuck that. We need to beat that at 30%. And then you then turn around and plug this into all the other news we've been talking about with everyone getting fired with everything. all this money man oh why don't we hi what have we were what have we took labor costs and put labor costs down to zero by firing everyone and then the robot can make halo just kyloren dot gif um i mean yeah absolute clown shoe shit um yeah no that there 30 percent profit margin is going to go really well
Starting point is 01:36:41 with their console lineup that features a thousand dollar handheld that jean had to conspire with like tech support to play Halo and the regular consoles that are no longer being sold in like Walmart, Kmart and Costco. Dude, we have been referring to the stupidity of like a bunch of people going, oh my God, look at the numbers go up during COVID and she and seeking that high. Right. Yeah. And that high that they've been seeking was 22% finding out now that they're like,
Starting point is 01:37:15 that's not enough we need it's not enough it needs we got to shoot it's got to be further beyond fuck this it's got to be the impossible right cool how's that working out let's ask master chief yeah how's master chief doing always coming to playstation fucking sick like i just can i can i can i like the idea that they are doing interviews talking about the next xbox console and And then the next day, I'm watching a Sony PlayStation logo stamped onto MasterCepe. What are you fucking talking about? If everything's an Xbox and my PlayStation is a PlayStation and my PlayStation is an Xbox, why would I ever buy an Xbox that's also not a PlayStation?
Starting point is 01:38:08 It's fucking psychotic, man. It's completely bad shit. So yes, Halo campaign evolved. available soon on PS5. And there you go, your console warriors, right? So did you see there was a leak that came out that was like, the next Halo is going to feature AI at every part of development? And then someone came out and said absolutely not, absolutely not.
Starting point is 01:38:34 And then the trailer for Halo Campaign Evolved came out in which it's really clear it has AI voice acting in it. It's very clear. And the level designer for Halo 1, I think his name is Jamie Griesmer. I might be being mispronouncing it. Just went on this massive thread that was like, why'd they remove the rocks? I put the rocks there so you can't drive up the wart hog and run over the hunters. Why did they do?
Starting point is 01:39:06 Why are you allowing a sprint button? If you sprint down this corridor, then Marty's music doesn't have a chance to kick in. Do they even know what they're doing? And the answer is fucking no, they doubt. So a lot of, a lot of people, a lot of people are experiencing this type of shit for the first time, uh, as they've grown up with this, this generation of console war being the one that they know first. All I can say is, this one went on for a really long time. It did. It did. It did. Right. But at least when Sonic showed up at Nintendo's door, there was a smoldering crater behind him, with nary a flame to be found left, right?
Starting point is 01:39:46 At least when Sonic was like, yeah, okay, it's software now. That's what we're doing. It was thoroughly, thoroughly extinguished as far as a business goes. Watching this happen with like their, you know, it's an active console for sale right now. While out the other side of their mouth, they're talking about the new Xbox business. Are you insane?
Starting point is 01:40:11 Are you like I'm going to buy an Your house is on fire sir I'm going to buy an Xbox so that I can play game pass for 360 to $400 a year but if I don't do that
Starting point is 01:40:26 I'll be able to buy a PlayStation in which every Xbox game will also come to and also all the Sony games I don't know mom dad which one do I buy like it really is, it really does feel like,
Starting point is 01:40:43 okay, investors, we got you all in this room, now wait till we show you what we have in store. Don't you go anywhere? And like in the glass around him, people are being marched out at gunpoint and thrown out and being replaced with robots and things are exploding. And it's
Starting point is 01:40:59 like every single news article about Microsoft that everyone is reading is exploding piece by piece. But they're like, no, no, no, no, no, it's great. It's great. It's fine. Don't go anywhere. It's totally okay. Master Chief just walked out the door No, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's fine, it's fine.
Starting point is 01:41:15 Chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, right? Now, this was all, of course, there was that earlier discussion about, like, oh, maybe the future can be kind of like DVD players and consoles can all share and things can be open. Yes, and the DVD player of choice will be the Sony PlayStation once again. And Sony's like, you are more than welcome
Starting point is 01:41:34 to use our Blu-rays and our controllers and our hardware and our memory. and our memory and our everything for this new open generation of hardware. Absolutely. The PlayStation is right there. Feel free to use it to
Starting point is 01:41:52 your heart's content as we as we share. Yeah. Absolute buffoonery. Just crazy. Get a hit 30% profit. You're going to hit it. The numbers are always amazing and hilarious to see. That's fun stuff. There is literally no way
Starting point is 01:42:09 they will hit, like, are able to hit 30% profit on literally anything. Well, at this point, you're just like, it's not, it can't really be about that. It has to just be a stalling tactic to allow them to say to people, hey, look at what we've set our targets for. Don't you worry, our projected growth in that projected growth chart, that's 30%. It also allows. Remember COVID? COVID's fucking dirt, shit, garbage compared to where we're going in our projection.
Starting point is 01:42:39 projected charts. It allows for them to do, it allows them to fire anybody for any reason because they'll be like, well, you didn't hit your targets. Accountability. Accountability targets.
Starting point is 01:42:51 And the other thing is that, that we're in the, it must have been on stream, but wasn't here. We're in the part of the AI bubble or the consumer bubble that I have started to call why can't I buy a normal TV
Starting point is 01:43:08 in honor of the 3D TV nonsense that Sony tried to push and all the TV manufacturers tried to push. So like Microsoft is like putting stuff out like AI is so successful, we're making so much money. How do you know that? Well, look how many million, billions of minutes of AI use there have been. By the way, we're including all usage of the programs Word and Teams. Oh, right. Yes. Regardless of use of AI feature within. Oh, no. Every thing your job makes you use.
Starting point is 01:43:46 Everyone that's used a search box on any website recently that's been forced to get a result. I love it. That's also considered usage of AI is it, even though nobody asked for it. Yeah, cool. Okay. So, you know, after the Japanese bubble popping led eventually to the, the, the, the, the, the Japanese bubble popping led eventually to the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the. the anime Kaiji and its death games as a direct result. And, uh, you know, you keep talking about it should be blood sports, but I'm sure we'll find a quick, a through line to that. Yeah, maybe. Sooner than you think.
Starting point is 01:44:24 Um, anyways. All right. Something else happened. And this one is weird. This is, okay, this is one of these weird things where I'm completely outside of this world. And, um, maybe you can give me some insight on how to feel. Maybe. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:44:39 Because I have to say, when I read a headline like Counter Strikes Player Economy is in free fall. Let's go! Because nearly $2 billion of value in counting have dropped ever since knife skins have become more readily available. I go, well, that sounds hilarious because... You're fucking right. That is how to feel. Because the idea of a ridiculous inflated aftermarket is, in any of these games is something that I've never participated in in this way.
Starting point is 01:45:11 And it sounds crazy that this structure like continues to be a thing. But I know there's tons of MMOs and online games and things where the aftermarket trading thing is just, it's a part of the game economy and people just get used to it. And I am, it's, it seems like fucking dog shit to me every time I hear about it. But I don't know. I will, I will clear up. up a little bit around the edges here. We'll just do a little trim around the edges. Make it make sure we're clean.
Starting point is 01:45:42 We know what we're doing. So online economies and MMOs are supposed to be entirely within their own ecosystem. In the game. In the game. Yeah. Paying for, except for Yvonline, but that's a different beast altogether. Paying for time, paying for clears, paying for items. It's supposed to be for in-game resources.
Starting point is 01:46:06 It gets more complicated when external actors like gold farmers allow you to turn money into gold, gold into money. La-da-da-da-da, right? But that is like nearly exclusively outside the realm of the beast. Okay. Right. Eve Online has always allowed you to turn into Plex. Yes. And then Plex has monetary value and so blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:46:33 And then Diablo is the other one I think of. And then Diablo 3's auction house. wanted to get it going and that kind of fucking ruined it for everybody. Yeah. So in CounterStrike, however, it's using the steam trading system. So your skin that you have works the same as like a steam trading card. You can sell it for money dollars either in the system with Steam wallet or outside of the system for cash. This means that the system is by default not contained within Counterstrike. It has real money value.
Starting point is 01:47:05 They've created basically skins that are NFTs. They're digital goods. And the user determines the price on whatever they sell? No. Well, you can, but the market really determines the price on what you're going to sell. But you can enter the number yourself. You can enter the number, but Steam will provide a expected. eBay, eBay-ish, like this is what you should probably be doing, but regardless, yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:47:30 So the Steam Counter-Strike market is a, insanely corrupt. It is, it is like bordering on criminal, depending on what your moral view of it is. It is wildly predatory. And it's for like, it's for like knife skins that don't look good. It sucks. Because knife skins can't be acquired the same way as other gun skins. It's basically loot boxes combined with like a free market idea.
Starting point is 01:48:00 There have been a number of scandals, a couple of which we have talked about where you can do like gambling for for Counterstrike skins. And what would happen is like I'd be a streamer and I would go on Counterstrike and I would have an audience that I could look through my metrics and see that it's an 8 to 14 year old boy audience. And I would just run a slot machine on CS skins. And it's crazy, dude. I would win the most valuable, most rare skins over and over and over. By the way, neglected to inform people. I own the website that I'm gambling.
Starting point is 01:48:32 Oh. I have rigged the odds. in my favor. Oh, wow. So like it is just overtly criminal. And what all Valve has done is giving you the ability to take five garbo skins and throw them into a pot and use that to upgrade a rarity on something or roll the dice on a higher level. Basically keeping it within their own system instead of you going, well, I have this, this, this, this trash. And I have to sell it to this guy in order to get the money to get this.
Starting point is 01:49:10 Instead, they just go, no, just feed it. Feed it to the thing. Word on the street is, in addition to 14-year-olds, it's also actual, legit, real criminals and gangs and, like, fucking Russian mobsters. Money into fake good, into fake good sale into money out. Yes, exactly. Fat Tony is interested. He heard that.
Starting point is 01:49:36 So this horribly fucked up the skin market and people are saying, well, the market's back up and all this. And it's like, here's the thing. The market for this is entirely speculative and bordering on criminal. And it's completely outside of control. And it's a centralized control that you have no effect on. So any investment in this is just dancing on the edge of a knife and just hoaxing. Hoping that doesn't pop before you get out like don't do fucking stop Oh all I had were vibes before this but I'm like this exactly as dirty as it looks
Starting point is 01:50:16 Oh my god. Okay so then you see a picture of a fucking knife skin and it's like it's fucking over It's done my entire my entire wallet is dead my savings all of it gone because the knife skin is now available to other people it is no longer artificially false. Yeah, because for a amount of time, the fucking, the value, you know, there were limited rates to say, oh, it's 0.2% of all knives of this knife. But then when people had the ability to turn lower tier shit into higher tier shit, all of a sudden, all the rates got all
Starting point is 01:50:50 fucked up. And then the market, it's a fucking... My knife apes. My knife apes, bro. No. Okay, it's exactly what it looks like. Yeah. All this aftermarket shit, just seems so disgusting every time. I, I, dude, it's super is. Yeah. Um, and the developer has like, has to choose to turn that on.
Starting point is 01:51:11 Oh, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah. You okay, buddy? Yeah. Oh, I saw people in the chat going, oh, man. Oh, the dog's so cute. I'm like, yeah. No, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was flashing balls at us for a bit there,
Starting point is 01:51:29 but then he started to slip. He doesn't have nothing back there. It's just an empty sack. And worth an empty sack worth more than this knife skin, though. Absolutely. 100%. Yeah, no, the moment the, the moment the dev chooses to enable that shit, right? You are opening up Pandora's box.
Starting point is 01:51:49 Go fuck yourself. Yeah. Yeah. So Valve is always at the forefront of ways to make crazy money. Right? They had a crazy idea back in the aughts, which is what have we had a store? you could buy video games on your computer that was easy to use. Sure, sure.
Starting point is 01:52:09 But I also, but I, that was like to start. But I remember when Chivo's came out for the Xbox and then it was like, you can get those and that's all fine and dandy. But then they were like, what if your achievements gave you a thing that you could trade? That's crazy. That had a value and cards and profiles and animations and so on. And then now. Yeah, and then they were like, what if you played a game that ruined your life, but it was free? With Dota, too.
Starting point is 01:52:34 But what if you could buy? So like the whole skin economy goes from like it goes from Team Fortress to through Dota into Counterstrike. And it's just all they're always just like new versions of the same thing. Now if this is making them a fuck ton of money and then this type of change is a spiral that explodes and destroys two billion of their overnight. You have to question this clearly is a deliberate choice. they made that they wanted to happen. Yeah, they wanted to keep more people inside the system rather than going to external sources.
Starting point is 01:53:10 Oh, okay. Okay, so they were trying to flush... Because when you sell your skin to a guy over there through their website, that's technically outside of the system and they're not getting their cut, but instead, if you feed the rarity through the... It's a whole fucking thing. Okay. And I know what you're thinking.
Starting point is 01:53:26 You're thinking, oh, who cares about... Oh, man, what I have... No, the two billion is gone. All my... All my apes are gone. By the dip! By the dip! But it's time! But this was specifically to flush out Nikolai and Boris. Yeah, a little bit.
Starting point is 01:53:43 This was the kind of fucking... It's not going to work. Yeah. It's not going to work, but... This was about them a bit more than it was about Braden. Oh, fuck. Ban the Aden's. This life.
Starting point is 01:54:00 The Aiden's... The Aidan's are coming, man. That's a whole general... on its way. Make no mistake. Okay. Well, there's that. You love to see it. You love to see it. I also love to see. You know what I love to see?
Starting point is 01:54:20 What do you like to see, bud? After a big backlash, after everybody was very upset about the choices that this company made. Yeah, that's right. Capcom says, you know what? Let's release a statement. about this whole Capcom Cup pay-per-view situation. It's a statement. What was the statement?
Starting point is 01:54:40 People seem to be very upset about what's going on. So, hey, everybody, we know what's going on with the Capcom Pub, basically. An update regarding the announcement on September 8th, yada-a-da.
Starting point is 01:54:54 Step one, the background of the decision. Here is us explaining that we've made a decision that with Street Fighter League, we want to make money, and we want to, yada, yada, so we're going to be greedy, and we're going to be charging people for the pay-per-view pricing. To be fair, to be fair, to be fair, I have also said this.
Starting point is 01:55:13 Yes, yes. And, uh, I do like the money. So, so, um, you know, the background is that we would like some money. Um, we've always said that. And I always said that. We will, we will continue to, to provide, uh, details about how much money we want soon in late October. So please look forward.
Starting point is 01:55:33 to us announcing more about the money we want. Future communications, going forward, we will be clearer and more accessible about updates regarding how much money we want with Capcom Esports. Please note that the presale tickets for the pay-per-view of Treat Fighter League, we want the money still.
Starting point is 01:55:53 So we're still going to be asking you to pay us. Please look forward to it. Is Capcom saying, quote, Give me money, money me, money now, me a money needing a lot now, end quote. Paraphrase, Gibbs, Gibbs, with the little hand gesture, Gibbs. I think we can summarize. Thank you, yeah, thank you, money for moneying my money, I'm money, money, money, money. however the quote goes
Starting point is 01:56:33 I think I don't know what the fuck anyone expected I genuinely don't know what the fuck anyone expected I kind of respect them for putting out a statement they put out a statement but fucking pay me though like that's really funny they came to the podium
Starting point is 01:56:45 and they cleared their throat and leaned into the microphone and made the big bending noise and it went and they went Gibbs give me more though I want it
Starting point is 01:56:58 and everyone's like word? Like that's it. Did you think they were going to fucking change? Are you crazy? I mean, I just like I want to imagine Nakayaba over at the development side
Starting point is 01:57:14 throwing his phone across the office like fucking yeating that shit at full speed into a wall because oh my God, after dancing as delicately as possible around the subject and being hey guys the dev team does
Starting point is 01:57:30 have anything to do with these decisions and we sure came up with some great ways to make Capcom Cup profitable without just doing a stupid pay-per-view and it was cool to do that back in the day, wasn't it? Anyways It was. It was cool, yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:46 Feeling cute might delete this later. Yeah. Right? Only to be greeted with the official response of nah though is wild. It's It's like silence would have served you better,
Starting point is 01:58:02 but all you've done is remind everybody how upset they are and redouble your efforts. Wow, Street Fighter really wants you to get a lot of cash for the tournament. You could just watch the box jam slam for free next week. See your favorite content creators, even. That's crazy. Wow. I kind of want someone to make a really elaborate Capcom Cup co-stream event
Starting point is 01:58:29 that involves them staring at the timer of the match and getting really hype as the timer goes down. Yeah. That would be nice. Anyways, fucking, wow. This has like,
Starting point is 01:58:46 okay, for everybody who's, like, obsessed with, like, actually seeing the Capcom Cup, this is going to lead to them, like,
Starting point is 01:58:51 watching it pirated. But for everybody who's like, oh, man, I'll watch the Capcom Cup, but isn't like, I have to watch the Capcom Cup, they've relegated it to the way
Starting point is 01:59:00 like wrestling paper views were where like I'll ask Eric on Monday who won the title oh like yeah no I'm not gonna watch it I'm just gonna ask you the following Tuesday who won
Starting point is 01:59:15 if you really want to see a fucking a Paul brother get knocked out you're gonna pirate that stream spoiler alert that's not gonna happen that's not the way they're set up however if you otherwise you'll just be like nah, I'll wait for high fight
Starting point is 01:59:30 to do the cool frame by frame just breakdown of all the sickest moments and what the top players were thinking. Don't point that out. That's too specific. I'll just wait for my favorite account to do an incredible breakdown of the best matches. I know it's really hard,
Starting point is 01:59:47 but I wish they did way more of those because it's really cool. They take a lot of effort, but high fight's incredible. Yeah. So fuck all that noise, Capcom. Let's talk about some real fighting games over here. Yeah. The return of the trilogy, Toshinden. Sure. Battle Arena to Shindon. What the fuck you know about Tosindon? I'm gonna... I'm gonna... E. Dia is porting one, two, and three to modern platforms.
Starting point is 02:00:23 You in there? You a show main? You play Aegee? I'm, I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I. I'm like, did we even fucking do Friday night. Oh, you bet your ass. Okay, I'm going to ask you to Google. Because it doesn't come up when I look up. No, no, no, no, no, no. Listen, Google Sophia Toshinden and then ask yourself, did we not do? Of course we did.
Starting point is 02:00:46 This is Obari art style directed 3D fighting game. Yes. Yes. Yes, we did. It's so weird because it was just an early. 3D fighter and it wasn't very good but it was there and it was 3D and it had
Starting point is 02:01:04 characters that were kind of anime and that was it. That was good enough. That's all you needed to be. 100%. So that shit's coming that's just coming to modern platforms. And more to it. The Avatar
Starting point is 02:01:22 Legends Fighting Game just announced the closed beta test is coming. soon. We don't know when. We don't know if the dates yet. But they showed off a little bit more gameplay footage in this trailer. And in this gameplay footage, you can see airbenders moving in really cool ways with some sort of movement options. And firebenders moving in unique ways with some firebending options as they fight against each other.
Starting point is 02:01:47 And it's like, wow, that's a dope-ass fucking subsystem going on right there. Also, it's a 1v-1, you know, fighter. So it's like very street fighter-esque in that regard, but it's also high speed and lots of cool shit going on. You know, animation-wise, sprite-wise, looks pretty dope. Every time you see little gameplay snippets, you kind of know that they put in little bits to show you like, hey, we know, right? It's like if you're watching and you see like a really fast, like dirty mix-up
Starting point is 02:02:16 or you see like someone get tech a throw and you're like, we're putting that in, we're putting this in for anyone who might know what this, what this like tech is, you know, and go like, Ooh, this game has this or this game has that. So anyway, um, yeah. I, uh, I, I think Avatar's cool. And, uh, I'm, it's all right. We'll see, we'll see what's going on here.
Starting point is 02:02:39 Way better than it, than any right to be for what it was. It's one of those shows, right? That could have been a random fucking, like, flop of a cartoon that would go the way of any 90s, forgettable show did. But it turned out to be fantastic. a cartoon series that successful based off of that god awful movie
Starting point is 02:03:02 is really impressive turning it around I think I think managing to ring some value out of that absolute god awful M. Night Shyamalan movie is just incredible it really is you know he set it up and they fucking knocked it out of the park
Starting point is 02:03:17 who says what if the air what if the earth benders were like on a on a boat fucking crazy that's way better God, I just, I always just, I hear the voice of Patrice O'Neill in my head, just getting so excited. Go in, nah, they're sending everybody for this one kid. This movie looks so sick. You're just like, why, dude?
Starting point is 02:03:44 That is not a crossover. Why? Why? Yeah. He was excited for the fucking live action air bender movie, just because he saw that trailer. Did he see it? I don't think he did. I think he was convinced that it was dog shit, you know, by the point that he left us.
Starting point is 02:04:01 But, man. Anyways, never minding that shit. There's some cool random indie games that got announced. Can I complain about a random indie game that I've been playing lately? Yeah. You know how Hades 2 said that it was 1.0 and then it was finished? Mm-hmm. Did you believe that to be an abject lie?
Starting point is 02:04:30 Hold on. Is this super giant games, Hades 2? Yes, that would be the one. Ah, hmm. Yeah. I am one run from beating the game, and I am waiting on a patch
Starting point is 02:04:45 that is apparently completely changing the entire game's ending from top to bottom. Now, by any chance, does this patch have a character name attached to it? Like, no, it's not called like the Knicks patch or something. It's called Patch 1. Okay, cool. Completely rewrites the entire game's ending.
Starting point is 02:05:05 To the point where if you already beat it, they're going to add a feature to go back in time in your story to redo it. Uh. Can I? Yeah. Can the game please be finished when they say it's, I'm not, I'm not even going to complain about Roe traitor again. I should, but I won't. But if they say it's done, can they mean it, please? Serves you right, boy. Now do it again. That was a pretty good Haiti's impression. Thank you. That was pretty good.
Starting point is 02:05:48 So, no, I was talking about, I saw two Indies that popped up that were, it was, somewhat similar an idea but then some cool shit's going on. One, there's this game called Ball X Pit. I've played ball pit. That looks fucking cool. I have played Ball X-Pit. I have not brought it up on the podcast because I haven't played
Starting point is 02:06:10 all that much of it. Okay. It is very cool. It looks so cool. It is very cool. I just wanted to call some attention to check this shit out. It is a survival, rogue-like, ball-bust, whatever. You move
Starting point is 02:06:26 down a Arconoid style track pinball-esque and you are doing Arconoid ball busting
Starting point is 02:06:37 but you're platforming at the same time So the brick breaker genre is like a breakout Breakout Breakout, sure
Starting point is 02:06:44 that predates Arkanoi it's it's it's breakout vampire Survivor Yeah that's that's a great way to put it It's just breakout vampire
Starting point is 02:06:50 survivors You're you with bullet patterns being dodged at the same time as playing breakout And if you're like man, I fucking love breakout and I fucking love
Starting point is 02:06:58 vampire survivors. Guess what? It's good. Yes. It's also very important to note is besides that concept, it's exploding with juice. It's got many juice. It's so juicy. Now,
Starting point is 02:07:15 besides that, which is available now and overwhelmingly positive and I just took a look and went, yeah, that I saw like one second of footage and was like, yes. Yes. Okay. And so in a similar vein, another
Starting point is 02:07:33 mini-rogelike over here called Slots and Dagger's. Have you seen this? Hold on. I think I have a fucking... Let's go search my email. Okay. So slots and daggers is... I am aware of it. I have not played it. I'm going to...
Starting point is 02:07:55 So this is... Another... This email has a quote from Northern Lion on it. Quote, this one might have the juice, end quote. It is juicy. Ball pit is juicy and slots and daggers is fucking juicy. So this is the same thing except you're doing rogue-like fights and progressing and buying weapons and so on, but you're doing it inside a slot machine.
Starting point is 02:08:23 But the slot machine is exploding with juice. There's chips and there's coins and every button has some feedback to it and all the noises are going and all the, again, all the things that Balotro could use for evil, but instead is using for good, it feels like it's got that here too. I haven't played either of these, but I just took a look at them and went, yeah, that looks fucking cool. So it just, and you're clicking on things and you're getting feedback and it's, and you know what it has? It has the lighting that inscription had where you're looking at like pixel art assets in a in a realistically lit environment, you know? So, so yeah, that's also just fucking rogue light clicker. It's not ball expit. It's just ball pit.
Starting point is 02:09:17 The trailer says ball pit. Well, I mean, I just call a fucking ball pit. But I think ball ex pit is how you. type it to search to find it. Yeah, but I want to say ball pit. Hunter, Hunter. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I want to say a ball pit out. And then, uh, the last, uh, little indie game here, um, known as Kirby Air Riders. I know, what's that? Um, up and comer, little dev known as a, uh, uh, a sack. Kourai? He's got some bright ideas. He's got some interesting stuff.
Starting point is 02:09:57 Yeah. You know, he's got a little game coming out. And apparently there's a global test ride. So if you want to try it out. Like, there's two Nintendo Direx for it. And in summary, shit looks fucking sick. And like, what are you going to say? It's a Sakurai game.
Starting point is 02:10:14 He's going to make way too much. And you know that because he confirmed. He's like, by the way, this is not a revitalization of a series that'll be on going, nor is there any planned DLC. So it's just fucking Kirby AirRiles. It's all going to be in there. Story mode, lore mode, fucking, you watch
Starting point is 02:10:32 your city trial. For people that like a Kirby Air Ride man, good for them. I couldn't even fathom a interested blink. It's hype. And I really appreciate the clip of Max where everyone's getting hype
Starting point is 02:10:48 over Rick, the return of Rick the hamster. Because Rick was a little one of Kirby's friends that he could ride on in Kirby Adventure in three, you know, and he's been gone for a while. So seeing him come back and you can ride on him and stuff is really cool, just like Wheely and everything. And then he's like, this is what the fuck? People are just getting excited for a hamster. That's so crazy. What's next?
Starting point is 02:11:10 The random rock. And then Rocky is here, you know, like, yeah. Let's fucking go. So hype. Love it. It's the best. It's the best. There's very little you need to keep track of except for if you want to try out an early version of it.
Starting point is 02:11:35 Yeah, November 8th, 9th, and then 15 and 16. News as of like a few minutes ago. Let's go. New World, the Amazon MMO, is done being developed. It is going to be over. They're going to keep the servers operating to 2026, but the next content is the last one. Hold on a minute.
Starting point is 02:12:03 Is this the game that we talked about like four years ago? I'm going to hold up my finger. I'm going to tell you, this is the game that you could type in code into the chat box, and it would active, it would be a script thing. it is over now Wow Amazon Game Studios
Starting point is 02:12:28 affected by mass company layoffs including the world team Amazon game studios affected by mass company layoffs Are we in a fucking Are we trapped in a cycle? A little bit Are we staring at the Are we looking at ourselves
Starting point is 02:12:43 In the portal to the past right now Is it just the same like It's current year Amazon tried making games it didn't work. They laid everybody off. Has had the... I wake up.
Starting point is 02:12:57 It's current year. Amazon's the worst at making games because they have no patience. That's it. I mean, just... From that quote from the guy behind Prime Gaming, he's like, we thought we were going to be a competitor to Steam. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:14 And the interviewer was like, what do you mean? He's like, you know, like a service. It was like, you have a service? Like, like, they had the single most popular online storefront in the world. And like you couldn't just put an ad that, like a button that said, hey, did you know Prime Gaming has a fucking ad? Like, okay, fine, whatever. Listen, man, at least live action Fury had the decency to cancel itself immediately upon release. And the Luna.
Starting point is 02:13:43 Do we even bring that up afterwards? Because it just killed itself. The Luna and the lunatics continue to exist well into the stadiums era. And, you know, it takes a level of like big blind money obfuscation to not know that a project is failing for a couple years before they catch on and kill it. It's, it's, I talked like at length about this on my show a few days ago. And I was like, I'm not an economist. But I do have an education in psychology. And I am a completely obsessed freak bit nerd about the video game industry.
Starting point is 02:14:24 And it's like, I'm not an economist, but why is it that me and you and many, many people in this chat have spent like literally 30 years going, oh, that's a scam. That's going to crash. Just being right every single fucking time. I don't know. I remember the virtual boy being the first one. And I remember being the Phantom being the second one. I remember reading about the Phantom in a magazine and going, that's never going to come out. It feels like this feeling, what you're describing, it feels like this exists in everything,
Starting point is 02:14:59 except it's, and it's just a simple matter of no matter what form of business you're talking about, the people making the decisions don't actually talk to the people that consume the thing. Like, like, it's just a matter of asking the person that's right there buying the ticket or the object or the product or the event or whatever the fuck it is. Economics is always secondary to consumer psychology. It,
Starting point is 02:15:22 Like, like, all those things you just described not having don't fucking matter because you have a vibe that everyone here also has that's just like, nah, that's stupid. What the fuck? Fuck that. I'm not spending my money on that. And it's over. And they're just, and it's just that simple. It's a simple thought and it's done and it's dead. Do you remember touching an Uyah controlling? And just going, I'm never going to play a game on this fucking thing. Like literally never. And then, but then you have to think about the person who's making the decisions that holds that controller and doesn't understand why what the problem is. They can't identify it. They're like, yeah, it's like that one over there that the people do like. The kids enjoy that one. Those are the types of people. The people that cannot extricate meaning or value from their everyday world who are so utterly fooled by AI because close enough is how they view actually every interaction around them. Right, right, right. And all you have to do is actually participate in the thing. Actually play a game and or just keep up. Like, actually participate in the thing you're investing in here to know a thing or two about it. Instead of just going off of what your kids playing on his phone and then yelling at, you know, the next investor meeting. There was some fucking dipshit HBO, fucking 2BPbo, whatever the fuck.
Starting point is 02:16:50 fuck it was who was like there's a real market for feature length films Lawrence of Arabia on your phone on your phone in vertical because my son keeps watching Netflix Lawrence of Arabia on your phone and it's that was the was that quibby was that poobo no I think I think it was just straight up Netflix was it quibby never mind excuse me quibby wow yeah all right you can just poop it are you familiar with that? Poob? Yeah, no, okay, hold on.
Starting point is 02:17:23 Hold on. It's a copy pasta that sums up the media landscape. Ah, yes, yes. It's a Tumblr post that I believe came from a gentleman
Starting point is 02:17:35 named Ork Boxer, which is, have you seen the new show? It's on Tubu. It's literally on Hebe. It's on pooty with ads. It's literally on Dippy. You can probably find it on Wino.
Starting point is 02:17:48 Dude, it's on Gumpy. It's a Feebo original. It's on poob. You can watch it on poob. You can go to poop and watch it. Walk on to poop right now. Go to poop, dive into poop. You can poop it. It's on poop. Poop has it for you.
Starting point is 02:18:02 Pooh has it for you. Like this is a This is years old. Oh man. It's more funnier and funnier over time. Oh, fuck. It's that's exactly this is exactly it.
Starting point is 02:18:21 Just insert word. Just poop it up. Oh, fuck. Yeah. Because they're all these, they're all these fucking fake, cute little tubis and shitmoes. Just, just try the thing for one second and realize. Say it out loud once.
Starting point is 02:18:45 Uh, poob. It's on poop. You could poob it right now. Dive it to poob. A poob original. I think Gumpy and Feebo original. That's solid.
Starting point is 02:19:04 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Weeno is also pretty good. I kind of like Weeno. That's that one sticking. That's strong. That's a pretty strong one. Um, uh,
Starting point is 02:19:15 you know, like I was, because I'm, I laugh at the idea of like apps where you just take a verb and take the last of a vowel out of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, Thripper.
Starting point is 02:19:26 or whatever and you got to have the P and the R next to each other but then yeah but this is also like the no the cutesy one well that's that's right Xbox is trying to do everything's an Xbox shit they want everyone to say all my they want the whole purpose of everything's in Xbox
Starting point is 02:19:43 is they want human beings to say Xbox to mean video games like people say Nintendo on the Nintendo the Nintendo the problem is that people say Nintendo to mean video games and that's never going to change. Like, never, ever. Counterpoint, I don't think kids these days are saying it. I think it's that's still
Starting point is 02:20:07 Boomer Plus. They're not saying anything. They're in their classrooms not knowing how to read and getting behavioral problems. Yeah, I think, um, I think people are, I think we're, how about you read 67 pages in a row without fucking text of speech, you fucking, nerds. I think we're past the things being called Nintendo. Now the kids are on to 6-7. There you go. Exactly. True. I got to say, I do
Starting point is 02:20:40 think that the children are cringe and that their shit is whack. However, I feel like people our age do not remember how cringe and whack our shit was when we were aged. I think there's a real confirmation bias going on. You do. not get to laugh about 6-7 or call it cringe if you memed e. If you're part of the generation that memed E for a while, or even B for that matter.
Starting point is 02:21:09 You don't get to laugh at it. Hey, you want to hear a really good, you want to hear a really excellent version of this shit. Okay, so sometimes you're in the car and the baby, the toddler is like, I want to listen to music, right? Mm-hmm. and you're in the middle of talking to your wife about how fucked the new generation is and how they can't read and all their shit is insufferable and skitt-a-ditty toilet
Starting point is 02:21:33 and you're playing Raffy for your child because Raffy is a cool guy who does great children's songs and here comes Bulga you know, here comes down by the bay, etc. And here we go with motherfucking banana phone. Ah. and you're gripped with the absolute fucking stranglehold this had on your internet life for a multi-year period. And you're like, yeah, know that.
Starting point is 02:22:03 It had stang power. Fuck it. Let's sing it. It's fun to sing. It has staying power. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. It's got a peel.
Starting point is 02:22:15 When I had to, when I was improvising some random, like, little sing-songies to, to start singing at her. First things that came to mind were Grenadian elementary school songs. What up? Yeah, but shit that I hadn't shit I haven't scratched
Starting point is 02:22:32 in fucking 40 years started coming back out. You know, singing the counting song and stuff that came straight from the islands. Like, I'm like, I had not access that memory in a very long time. I barely even knew that was still in there. So,
Starting point is 02:22:48 anyways, Let's grab a letter or two. Hey, if you want to send in a letter, send it to Castle Super Beastmail at gmail.com. That's Castle Superbeastmail at Gmail.com. All right, we got a couple in here. Let's see, we got a bunch of these. All right, Remurai, how you doing? Oh, Remerai. Hey, man.
Starting point is 02:23:13 Yo. Hello, Wicked Woolly and Pat Leachie. A few years ago, I played a casual management game called Bear and Breakfast. You play as a bear running a few different vacation sites, and as such, you get more and more responsibilities, things like checking in and out guests, preparing meals, heating, stuff like that. But you're a bear.
Starting point is 02:23:32 While I had a charming art style, it had a charming art style and lots of potential, it felt undercooked because at the time I was playing it, the worst thing I noticed, gameplay design-wise, was every major reward was the ability to automate chores entirely at the cost of effectiveness. A game making a core component of its disdemeanor
Starting point is 02:23:50 design kind of boring and then rewarding you with the ability to not have to use the mechanics at all felt like a huge misstep. The game should be fun to play and then make you want to engage with it even more. So this was just a weird design choice. Can you think of any really bad rewards or upgrades? The gaming equivalent of a Charlie Brown getting rocks while tricking or treating. Okay. So first of all, I'm going to tell this person, Remora, you're a wonderful man and I love you and your games are great, especially the ones that have me in them. True. But don't. play factorial
Starting point is 02:24:21 or satisfactory busy work becoming the automated process yeah I mean in terms of awful rewards
Starting point is 02:24:33 you know there are always standout examples I've been making fun of fucking a hundred etcio feathers to get his mom to talk for years
Starting point is 02:24:44 that's the only way to get her to open her mouth up recently I was talking about in Shinobi how there's a kuna I upgrade that makes you throw three Kunae out, but then now you can't do combos as effectively anymore by juggling them off. So the upgrade actually makes your comboing worse because you want it as a juggle opportunity, not a thing to just kill them out or drop the body. I think FF16 giving
Starting point is 02:25:10 the player the blitzring like 10% through the game and making the dodge like so insane. Super Dodge. Yeah. maybe not a great idea because you're like, I should take this off because it'll be more fun, but it's like the single most effective piece of gear you have. And it feels cool to use it, though. Yeah. Like, so I'm,
Starting point is 02:25:30 like, I didn't feel like it was a downgrade in that regard. It just felt busted, right? Which we have to self-regulate on a bunch of times in other games. I'm going to say, uh, to me,
Starting point is 02:25:40 I think top of all time, just go fuck yourself is, um, 900 Korox. I think 900 Korox is peak Nintendo go fuck yourself Well you were never supposed to get all of them No because the reward The reward for getting them all is a piece of shit
Starting point is 02:25:59 Yeah You get a golden turd Get fucked loser Celebrating your accomplishment You know So that's to me the all time most Just Fuck you
Starting point is 02:26:12 Uh a reward and Busy work nonsense it's like you put it in there to make fun of the player and then it's in a Zelda game and then you fucking shit on them for doing it it's kind of great though half halfway through you stop getting inventory expansion it just fucking becomes you found me yeah i'm having trouble but there's there's a lot of upgrades you can get in games that like make you make parts of your your character's kit just too strong enough in one direction that they either screw up the rhythm you had before or incentivize you not having a gameplay rhythm at all. They incentivize you. Just do this move over and over and over and over.
Starting point is 02:26:57 Right, right, right, right, right. Yeah. Like, oh, you know what? Thank you. Someone in chat. Thank you, Merck Jones. Death Stranding 2's snow tires are like game ruining because you're like, man, I'm spending a lot of time in the truck, but at least we're in the mountains now. And the game gives you snow tires, let you climb mountains with the truck. And I'm like, God damn it, this is a million times stronger and more efficient than walking. Fuck. Yeah, I, uh, if anything's giving you trouble and devil may cry for special edition, just lunar face. Just do it.
Starting point is 02:27:35 That's that'll, there's not a whole lot that knows how to deal with it. Just take a minute to think about your next move. And in the meantime, Lunar phase. phase. All right. Let's see here. We got one coming in from Daisy who says, Dear, my favorite tech and economist, economic journalists, your discussion about the slow crash of the industry made me think.
Starting point is 02:27:55 Is this actually a slow crash? Or does our perspective of history expect it to be faster? It seems like recorded history makes it easy to talk about major moments in a couple sentences, distorting our awareness that historical speed is measured in years instead of days. When we read about a decade-long event in 10 seconds, Do we expect that kind of speed constantly? Food for thought. People think that because the Internet's screwed up their brains
Starting point is 02:28:18 and the perspective of the flow of time. But let me give you a really good example. In 1939, like most people in North America, did not realize that World War II was happening. Okay, okay. Like, oh, wow, there's a conflict in Europe. Oh, crazy. Well, I guess it depends on it.
Starting point is 02:28:40 Most people depending on where you lived, right? That's why I said North America. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Right. So this makes sense to me, but I also remember that, like, since we're the last generation, like, before Internet, right? I feel like we have a much more tangible, like, access to the slower pace of media being released and how, like, one thing would come out and you would just stick to that one thing for months. if not most of a year.
Starting point is 02:29:12 And then another thing next year was like, holy shit, thing too, you know. But you just digested so much less and events happened less frequently. Also, being younger meant you weren't paying attention to world events as much, you know. I remember while I was trying to watch Power Rangers and then my cousins were switching over to Rhapsody, then my parents would switch on the news and I'd hear about Bosnia and Sarajevo. And I'd be like, I don't know what those things are, but okay. And, you know, now the idea of rolling through a doom scroll and rattling off like 50 news stories and hitting the end of it in one bathroom shit is insanity.
Starting point is 02:29:54 That you were never supposed to hear about bad things happening for that more than a mile from where you fucking live. Whatever. 10,000 faces in your life, you know, like yada yada, right? So that's it. So it kind of is true that history feels like in some ways you read about it in this insanely fast way, but it also does feel like things went slower back then compared to like reading these lines now. So yeah, our sense of time is completely warped.
Starting point is 02:30:26 Like you look at a movie like the big short, which is about the fucked up housing market shit, right? I remember being not, was I adult? I think I was. 2008? Yeah, during the housing market crashed all that shit. and I didn't realize that I was in the lead-up and the fallout of the fucking housing crisis, right? Mm-hmm. Right?
Starting point is 02:30:47 Oh, the market crashed crazy. Like, that's literally all I, like, you know? But now in the history books, it's like, there's a fucking nice bookend on either end of like, this is when it started. This is when it started to pop. That was a crazy, that was a crazy bubble that popped there. It sure is nice that all the people responsible went to jail. Yeah, well. what are you going to do you can't put people with money in jail
Starting point is 02:31:11 what would happen I don't fucking know like we would enter a fucking like we would divide by zero would we just end you know it's never done a black hole is supposed to fucking know would a black hole spawn in the jail cell
Starting point is 02:31:29 yeah anyways um sure man but yeah so it's only it's only subjects that you are particularly deep in on that you can start to you can start to form the beginning and end of the process before the historical event is over, right? So like we're talking about the AI bubble and we were talking about the AI bubble like I want to say like a year ago, right? and it was like
Starting point is 02:32:06 But like I remember the creation of the genesis of the AI bubble which was actually a bad patch in World of Warcraft. Do you remember? When they used generated assets? No, it's when they nerfed Warlock
Starting point is 02:32:25 in World of Warcraft and the Russian guy who loved to play Warlock got so mad about centralized infrastructure that he invented Bitcoin. Oh, shit. Oh. I remember when that happened.
Starting point is 02:32:41 Wait, is that Satoshi or whatever? Is that how that happened? No, yeah, that's the first guy. I forget his name. Satoshi Nakamoto or whatever, Ethereum. No, he's a Russian guy. No, okay, no, Bitcoin. Yeah, Bitcoin was Satoshi, but, but yeah.
Starting point is 02:32:57 So that happened. And then Ethereum becomes a GPU sucking down. freak bitch. And then using GPUs for economic nonsense starts to go up and then you go from that to NFTs and then you go for NFTs to AI because we have all these
Starting point is 02:33:16 fucking generated farms and blah yada yada yeah yeah you had to be paying attention at the beginning to feel the to feel the time. Yeah. It is it is the case
Starting point is 02:33:31 but you know also I would say to that we were made to handle perhaps a couple less dozen historical events per day. That is the millennial curse. Right? So my dad went through some historical events, but they were like relatively few and far between. Now, for the world that we live in and the problems that it is, I remember talking to my dad about this and he's like, well, at least you're not just afraid of a nuclear. fucking attack every day
Starting point is 02:34:06 at school. And I'm like, you know what, Dad? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You fucking got me there? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, dive under the desk. Fair enough. Fair enough, man. That must have been rough. Any day now, you know?
Starting point is 02:34:23 I mean, we're kind of back there for different reasons, but like just, wow. And, you know, we have our plague, and that's not good, but my dad their generation also had their plague, which was the polio and the measles
Starting point is 02:34:40 and the mumps and Rubella. And I'm glad those are all gone. Yeah. By the way, here's some mercury. Go have some fun. Go play with it. See you later, kids. I got to be honest.
Starting point is 02:34:58 If I didn't, Mercury looks super fun. I want to touch it. No, No, no, no. I said that, but I want to touch it. I remember, dude, okay, I remember watching Hot Shots Part D, where they do the Bloodsport joke, and they break a fucking mercury thermometer in his hand, and he's like, oh, and I know it's
Starting point is 02:35:21 gallium. Like, now I know it's gallium, but he's like, and I remember looking at that, go, that looks so cool. Would it do that if I broke a thermometer? Yeah. Um, you can play with gallium. Gallium safe. Okay.
Starting point is 02:35:39 Oh, gallium isn't much better. Oh, fuck off. The safe for kids one? Fuck off. Yeah. Love that. Fuck off. No.
Starting point is 02:35:49 I just want to play with dangerous chemicals. Listen, it's totally, the methadone is totally safe. You should, you should use that, actually. Just, just, it's not even a switch. Just start on methadone. Hey, let me ask you. way out, way out. We're going way out. Okay, we're out. Remember in your chemistry class,
Starting point is 02:36:08 your chemistry teacher said, like literally the first thing going into the lab, don't drink out of these fucking beakers. How long did it take? How long did it take? Because for me, it was a kid named Michael, and it was literally within five minutes walking through. Okay, so drinking water out of a fucking beaker. So David
Starting point is 02:36:28 was like in a special class and he was joining in our class, but he was not actually, like, you was usually, you know, so. Yeah, okay. Yeah. It was one of the, you know, for sure. Well, that's, okay, no.
Starting point is 02:36:42 Hey, it was literally like, Mike was like, hey, guys, check this out. And I looked over and I'm like, man, you didn't even rinse that out. Like, you don't even. Although, shout out, shoutouts to Mr. Goodman, though, because he's like, today we're going to be dissecting frogs. And all the girls would be like, no. And he'd be like, yeah. He's totally way, way, way.
Starting point is 02:37:04 weighing it. I remember having a discussion with my parents because I had really good grades. And I'm like, if they do the, if they hit me with the frog stuff, I'm not going to do it. I don't care. I will, I will get a bad grade. Yeah. I do not want to cut a frog apart for kicks. That just seems horrible.
Starting point is 02:37:19 No. I don't do that. He pushed it. I dissected a cow's eye, but it wasn't attached to the fucking cow. Yeah. See, that bugs me more simply because of the idea. You know? It's gross.
Starting point is 02:37:36 Yeah, I hate that. I hate that because I don't like eye stuff. I feel like I'm like, well, that's like makes me think of my eye getting split open. Well, that bothers me. I gotta be blunt.
Starting point is 02:37:44 I don't think anybody, I think that's, I think you're describing a human reaction. Like, that is definitely not unique to you. But like, if you had to pick any other part of the cow, like,
Starting point is 02:37:54 I'm like, you pick the one that makes me really. It'd be the part that's not attached to the alive cow. Yeah, that'd be nice. That'd be nice. That's the part. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 02:38:04 Um, Oh man. Somebody says they had to act an adult cat. That reminds me my favorite veterinary school story. Okay.
Starting point is 02:38:16 I ran into a friend of mine. I ran into Christina from high school and she went to, she was the girl with a snake and an iguana. And she's like, I'm going to be a fucking veterinarian. Right?
Starting point is 02:38:28 And guess what? She was in the good college for veterinarian school and she was killing it. And I ran into her a couple, couple years later and she's like, I'm almost out of vet school. And I'm like, cool, what do they got you guys doing? Like, well, when we first get there, what do you, you know what you got to do?
Starting point is 02:38:42 I'm like, what do you do? Like, you skin cats. Oh, my gosh. And they go, what? They bring in a truck of euthanized cats and they give you a cat and they go, skin these cats. And they go, why? And they go, well, you have to learn, you have to practice how to operate on animals. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 02:39:03 And the best way to do that is to just skin a bunch of cats. And I go, oh, cool. And she goes, you know what's funny? And I go, and this is not like, I'm like, she's desensitized. And that's good because you got to get a vet. Just kill it inside. Kill your insides. But this is not a conversation that I was expecting to hear the phrase, you know, what's funny, though.
Starting point is 02:39:20 And what she says is, you know how they say there's more than one good way to skin a cat? I go, yeah. She's like, no, there isn't. There's one good way. And I go, cool. Cool. Yeah. Yep. And I'm like, that woman is going to grow up to be an incredible vet.
Starting point is 02:39:37 So I'll tell you what you fucking do. That's horrendous and insane. But if you find yourself in that environment, you fucking look around you and you see who's enjoying it a little too much. It was a bus stop at Angry, you know, and there was nobody. Wait. No, I mean, no, I'm saying in the class, if you're in a class full of, if you're in a room full of people and everybody's Dissecting cats as you're told to do look for the person who's enjoying that process a little too much You bag tagging to do the little check you just you just eyeball it yep just just just be like all right Duly know everybody in here better be soft and dry Um man I didn't think I was going to say that phrase
Starting point is 02:40:25 Wow as opposed to soft and wet Um Tattoo artists have to practice on pigskin You know. Yeah, that's, that's about right. And the really cool tattoo artists just practice on their own fucking leg. I know a couple. I know, I know more than one.
Starting point is 02:40:48 Yeah. No, there's synthetic skin now and stuff. But, you know, depending on where you come from, like what, like, I was under the impression that synthetic skin was just like, it's nice. But it's not, no, no, straight up. No, that's real. Right. There are, so there are people who go like, yeah, the fake skin you can get to practice on, it doesn't have the same texture.
Starting point is 02:41:06 It doesn't heal the same way. It doesn't land the same way. It's not going to give you the same sort of vibe. And furthermore, like I was, you know, one of the art, the guy who did like my vagabond stuff, like he's from Korea. And he's like, yeah, we're working on pig skin. That's what you fucking do. What do we, what do we spend?
Starting point is 02:41:19 Because people are just kind of piggy. Who's oink oink? Thank you. And flashwise, anyway. Thank you tattoo artist Luca Blight. Anyways, all right. I think we got that. And one more interesting one here.
Starting point is 02:41:37 Dear Patron 3,000 in Willsworth. What's up, man? Mr. Jones says, I enjoyed listening to your recent conversation about Act 3 of Silk Song and how the game, if it was created prior to the advent of the internet, that we know today would have been a journey of discovery for many people, finding that experience is part of what makes it fun. I started thinking about how these natural experiences in older gamers occur
Starting point is 02:42:00 and remember having games, I remember that these experiences are no longer present in games, mostly due to modern YouTube touch creators and so on. I say this with no hate. In my opinion, what makes the loss of discovery in games worse is the tutorialization of games. Most players won't care about this if they only play single player games, but as somebody who loves to play tanks in everything multiplayer,
Starting point is 02:42:27 especially MMOs, trying to do a dungeon run for the first time, failing, learning, and then doing it right, while being the wall upon all must break. Upon which all must break. For your team feels great and is a ton of fun. It's an experience that isn't replicated in anything else. I recently started playing a game that launched an early access called Fellowship. It's essentially a casual bite-sized memo experience where you run dungeons repeatedly. And I had a lot of fun the first few days of it being out, learning with the community.
Starting point is 02:42:58 But within a week, there were already guides and tutorials being made for each dungeon character, etc. and with them, the inevitable person who tells you, you should have watched a tutorial beforehand. Maybe I'm just an old head, but I find that readily available guides and tutorials for everything have made the MMO community and other multiplayer communities much more toxic than they were. Optimization is great, but having fun and playing the game cooperatively
Starting point is 02:43:20 should always come first. We'd love to hear your thoughts. All right, so if you want to see a really wildly detailed breakdown of this topic, You can go down to folding ideas and watch a video that's about a 90 minutes long called Why It's Rude to Suck at Warcraft in which they discuss the mentality and design that goes into the exact thing that he's talking about. Shout out, Matt and Dan Olson. There's massive confirmation bias going on here. So Mr. Jones forgets what. what it's like to play a game in which all information is hoarded by players and there's nothing
Starting point is 02:44:07 in the game to actually help you and those players will lord that information over you. Because he describes like learning to be a really good tank and what I remember is games in which there's nothing to help people learn to be a good tank and people who have no information given to them won't learn anything and therefore just stay shit forever and one of the things like World of Warcraft is a really good example World of Warcraft classic
Starting point is 02:44:47 right now is a completely solved game and part of that solved gameness is the fact that it was actually really easy because nothing in the game taught you anything. Like, the actual listed internal mechanics of how things happened and worked in World of Warcraft are pretty simple, pretty simple because nobody knew how anything worked.
Starting point is 02:45:14 Now that Wow Classic is completely solved, it's a whole different fucking thing and it's all about speed running now because it's solved. I feel kind of, lucky that I have a real outsider's vibe of like the type of specific co-op toxicity that comes from these types of genres because like from the outside the way you describe the shit it sounds like miserable sometimes and like I know the highs must be like super worth it to fucking
Starting point is 02:45:47 when you're coordinating with everybody and it's amazing but like yeah those are shit oh my god it sounds so miserable to me. And like, I don't, yeah, I'm just, I'm just like, the idea of the,
Starting point is 02:46:03 the, like, getting off the game and feeling like my night was ruined because just a screaming match with somebody,
Starting point is 02:46:11 you know, online trying to play and I have to listen to them in my ear, screaming about what I'm not doing properly or whatever. It just sounds like, I don't want,
Starting point is 02:46:19 I don't want to play. I just don't want to play. League of Legends. League of Legends is maybe the most nefarious evil invention created by scientists to harm you because there's a really fun game inside League of Legends and you start League of Legends and League of Legends gives you a tutorial and it teaches you how to control your guy and what items do and how you use your skills and it'll even tell you
Starting point is 02:46:46 how uh what lanes you can go down and you do the tutorial and you play a couple bot games and then you load up into a regular match and you you will walk out the door and without fail the first time you leave Spawn one of your teammates will say
Starting point is 02:47:07 the most out of pocket meanest shit you have ever seen in your life to you because you somehow fucked it somehow you just walked out the front door and you fucked it the match might as well be lost
Starting point is 02:47:23 at this point. And now you have to play with them for 35 fucking more minutes. It's crazy. It's unbelievable. It is created by an evil scientist. So what you did, I remember when you were describing this process and how horrendous it can be and that it culminates in a point where the screaming asshole just stops screaming and just starts feeding. It just says, you know what? No.
Starting point is 02:47:51 I'm going to spend my night making you upset so that we all lose. It's crazy. You need you need to get into some kind of toxic co- You need this
Starting point is 02:48:07 this core experience. Yeah, I mean like, you know, a little bit of like online fucking whatever, Overwatch, random Q, fucking apex and Titanfall existed. You did get a piece of it.
Starting point is 02:48:21 because if you even played one solo cue match of Apex and both your dudes just been fucking splitzies and you just went you fucking motherfuckers that's that's that's a piece of it yeah I random queued up with a duo that was cussing me the fuck out in Spanish they were so mad they were so mad
Starting point is 02:48:43 this duo was not having it bro and I could not understand what they were saying but it was it was not nice. Oh, I love that. The, the, the sounds I heard were not nice sounds. There's something like really wild about like doing really poorly and like league and then people start like begging you for money in Portuguese. And you're like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 02:49:06 Yeah. How could I, if I even wanted to send you the money, I don't know how you're saying it. Good stuff. Good, good, good question. I like that. Or observation for that matter. And there's no putting the genie back in the bottle. Like, you, it's, that's what it.
Starting point is 02:49:22 that's where we live now, you know? No, I'm of the opinion that large-scale information availability is absolutely a better way because more people actually get to play the game as intended. I play, when you boot games up, ever since I remember, like, cell phone games that were like, hey, this game is better with headphones. When you play super hexagon, you might enjoy this better if you put headphones on. The sounds are really cool. And now you get that with some games where they'll be like, yeah, put the headphones on
Starting point is 02:49:49 or, you know, real yak-as-play with a game pad, whatever the fuck. I would not be surprised if, like, some sort of message was kind of like, hey, this was meant to be played without the internet telling you everything about it. You can do that if you want, but for maximum enjoyment, don't go to Fextra life. So I've got an MMO example that I think covers all three bases that we have going on here. So we can talk about Final Fantasy 11 and Final Fantasy 14. So in both of those games, there are unique monsters that you can, that will pop up and spawn at, are on certain timers and you can kill them for valuable rewards, right?
Starting point is 02:50:27 So a friend of the show won Max a Million dude made his bones in Final Fantasy 11 by just learning and knowing where all the good shit spawn and on what timer and when and how to beat them efficiently. And so he was able to just go out and be like, this guy's going to pop. I'm going to go get them with some people and I'm working to get good stuff and all this stuff. And yeah, I think, yeah, he was playing a chat. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:50:51 Because he's crazy, right? Wow. And that represented a really incredibly cool experience for Max. Yeah. Right? That's Beast. For most people on his server that represented, what the fuck? How this guy just the, the monsters, he's never up.
Starting point is 02:51:14 The monster's never up. I just go. It's supposed to be a monster here that I can kill for rewards. and some guy just swoops in and kills him and he's gone. What the fuck? How does he always do it? That's what most experience. In the Final Fantasy 14 version, you have hunts that are somewhat similar.
Starting point is 02:51:35 And the community decided to run link shells, which is like an in-game Discord. And then they ran discords. And now they have scouts who troll server locations. to see the hunts. They ping them. There are now apps that will ping them. They will feed into a centralized database. There is a website that you can go to that has a timer that people manage that rolls it up. And so if you're in a hunt discord, you will get a ping on your server when you join up and it will ping you and go, hey, there's a hunt train starting in 10 minutes. And everybody who wants to go there creates a party and party finder joins up, joins up with the thing
Starting point is 02:52:16 gets ready runs every zone in the expansion in a 55 minute period kills every single hunt gets all the rewards and then they'll cycle 36 hours later or whatever the fuck it is yeah and that is that is the new version now that is actually available
Starting point is 02:52:33 to lots more people than the first one was but it's not nearly as romantic because it's automated like people are just automating the thing so now that we're in this world the best thing that you should probably do is just have the game tell you when these things fucking spawn so that all players can go and get them instead of the people who are freakass enough to hang out in this degenerate discord like me.
Starting point is 02:53:00 I mean, as far as single player experiences go, we live in a world where watch for rolling rocks exists. Yeah. Okay. Skipping dimensions into parallel realities in Mario 64. via a series of very, very, very specific jumps is a thing that people figured out and do. Like, watch any years, AGDQ or whatever. I feel like the idea of just, like, shared information
Starting point is 02:53:31 being out there in this way is like, you can, yeah, I said it with Silk Song. Anyways, you can choose as a creator to make your game and pretend that it'll be playable offline in a cabin in the woods if you want to. But it works a lot better for single player stuff. At the, yes, yes. But like just straight up telling the player this is how it's intended to be played, I think would be a reasonable thing to do at some point.
Starting point is 02:53:56 Yeah. So like basically my point is that if you have a community, particularly for a multiplayer game, that is going to data mine automate, you know, streamline the shit for the people who are into it, you've now just created a two-tier system of people who are just playing the game and people who are. have the information and those data. And if you've already hit that point, you can either make it totally inscrutable and impossible to figure out or just make it clear and understandable to everybody else. Right. Those are your two main paths. I think that awkward middle of having people who are dissecting every piece of it via technology to get advantages over a part of the community is like a weird unhealthy middle that I don't think. think most games should have.
Starting point is 02:54:47 So I will say that there is something cool about that first era souls thing where there's a bit of an ARG happening, you know, almost with lore online and people are like, oh my God, a video about this character's item description. And did you know that maybe they can survive? Like there's a little bit of that where like there's a sense of like, I imagine people discovering things together and sharing lore about here's how you actually make Saler survive, you know. There's an excitement around that. limited version of this, right?
Starting point is 02:55:16 You know who I believe is ultimately at fault for this problem? It's you and me. Uh-huh. The proliferation of easy video has destroyed the ability for people to just lie like crazy and say you can bring Ereth back to life. Okay. The mystery of whether or not the person telling you is telling the truth, and you having to go figure it out
Starting point is 02:55:45 is gone because you can just type in Dark Souls 3 how to get Henri Wedding and a million fucking videos will pop up to show you exactly how there will never be a single person who fights the Iron Golem without
Starting point is 02:56:01 Tarkas ever again unlikely well actually never use him myself but it'll but just like that there will never be an honest fight against the Iron Golem ever it's all just a Tarkas bit forever permanently yeah all right we're part of the fucking problem yeah but you know what though what's that gibbs yeah gibbs yeah gibbs i got a shirt out it's at orchid eight dot com brickey's
Starting point is 02:56:33 does good shirts thank you bric shipping now shipping now it's on the way to put that thing into a jar I know what that means now I know what that means that I don't like it But you should have gotten an alert That the woolly wolves in the lab is shipping now I don't know if I did hold on is it Gibbs Gibbs
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