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Hey, wolves, how you doing?
Today you wear the makeup, but you are not the clown, sir.
Oh, yeah, is that, is that so? How's that?
But you are, you are not the clown.
Yeah, well, what do you mean?
Well, you know, um, in response to the...
Yo!
In response to yo.
Yeah, yeah.
No. So, um, I, uh, I, I, I, I, I, I, I just, I just straight up lost track of it, you know, uh, what are we talking about? We're talking about the say James slam. The Slay Jam slam. Sorry, the box jam slammed, BJ slam. Correct. Which you, uh, which you brought up to me, uh, properly ahead of time before. Yeah. And I was, apparently I'm quite low on the, on the mix.
which is the first time that's ever been the case.
That is strange.
I don't want to drag you up.
No, you don't want to do that.
Too much here.
What if I just kick up my gain, output volume?
Okay, you could try that.
What if I just do this?
Oh, no, that's the opposite.
No, my input volume's already at maximum.
I can't kick it up higher on myself.
Okay.
Okay, okay, okay.
Let's see.
I'll bring you up on the desktop.
that should be fine.
I'll just do that.
All right.
All right.
There we go.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, so obviously the box jam slam for 2XCO, which is going on now.
It's hot.
It's now.
Which is going on.
And, you know, congrats you got in there.
Thank you.
I've been bug and say jam about getting in on these for a while.
Okay.
The Street Fighter one, I didn't get in.
And then I missed the other two.
Oh, you went for it.
Okay.
Okay, okay.
The other two.
Yeah, and there was, you had a friend as well that was doing it, it was during MacFest or so.
I don't remember that even at all.
Shit, okay.
But like, that could be true, but I can't remember.
I have too many events that have happened in my life.
Well, in any case, you properly brought that up ahead of time.
And I was like, right, yes, that is a thing.
And just shit going on, completely.
forgot about it. And then when you
mentioned it again, I was like, that, yes. And I went to go look.
And it was like, okay, the training is happening. It was four
days ahead. It wasn't the day before, admittedly.
But by the way, you finish the story, I'll tell you the
behind the story. Yeah. So the way Sage-F,
the way the Sage-H have told it, he's like, literally, he's like,
bro, it's tomorrow. What the fuck is wrong with you?
And I'm like, it's not out of time.
It wasn't the day before.
But it was still, it was still definitely late for when, when the, the signup sheet got posted.
And, uh, yeah.
And it's like, oh, it was just like, yeah, dude.
Like the, we just finished going through the bracket and stuff.
Sorry, you know.
And I was like, not fair enough.
That's on me, you know.
And, uh, and then I saw the clip.
Yeah.
So like, so here, so here's the underneath story.
There's a whole underneath story.
I wish there were that many O's and yo.
but I don't yo that long.
You know, you know, Sejam
was like super excited to tell that story
because he told the same story twice
the same way back to back.
Okay, no, no, no, I want to say it again.
I want to say it again. Okay, okay.
Okay, so here's what happened, right?
So I got into the Seajam slam
and I got the confirmation,
I got invited to the Discord, yada, yada, right?
And I hop on
and I ended up playing like a bunch of practice matches
with Javi from I Heart Justice,
who's really cool, very nice,
new friend.
Love that guy.
A friend of Leathero, didn't know that.
And Seajam comes in and we start talking and I like the topic of like,
Hey, how come Pooley isn't here?
And he explains the story to me, right?
And then I go, bro, that's crazy.
When did he contact you?
And we like cross-referenced.
Yeah.
My texts for me being like, when I told you I had to move the podcast next week,
that's when you went, oh shit.
walk.
A one million percent.
And so me, Paige, and Seajam and Javier all laughing about this.
And then afterwards, Paige is like, oh, you don't think we like laugh too hard at like,
well, his expense because he was late.
Like, no.
And then I'm watching Seajam stream.
And he's blowing you up on the whole thing.
And I'm like, oh, wow, we were definitely not too mean about it.
Holy shit.
No, that is exactly it.
That was, look at my phone.
Oh, shit.
You know?
And, and, and, uh, what I, yeah, and what I was trying to, and I went over to the Twitter,
and I saw the, the dates posted and, uh, it's in three days.
But so, so there was the first one and then the others are for November, you know?
Yeah.
And, uh, so for the six, seven and eight, I was looking at those.
I was like, I was like, I, uh, it doesn't mention what time it was going to start.
So I just shot at the message to be like, an idea what time.
because I wasn't too sure because one of those days,
there's a baby stuff.
And so I was just trying to figure that part.
And he was just like, dude.
And I was like, yeah, all right, all right, right.
You know.
When I texted you, hey, man, I got in, I have to move it.
At that exact second, it was too late.
Yeah, okay, okay.
Because I had already been confirmed to be.
Right, right.
So that being said, of course, yeah, I still,
The slams, for those who don't know, are these really awesome streamer and coach-based fighting game events that he's been running.
And the backstory is so ridiculous to me in the sense that that's shit that does so much officially to bring up the profile of these games.
And it gets a lot of eyeballs on them, especially when a lot of streamers participate and have fun together with their communities.
and the fact that the setup of varying skill levels is like the most interesting fucking thing
possible.
Yeah, proam.
Proam is exactly the way to put it.
You're just matching people of different skill levels against people in their relative brackets
and then having coaches to kind of show them the ropes and stuff and focusing on, you know,
the characters and the tactics to just make it through a basic bracket.
And a, you know, and a secondary effect is showing people that are fans of each streamer.
what it's like to like participate in a bracket, you know?
But anyway, what's just so ridiculous to me has just been the stories of official support being a difficult thing to acquire,
where it's like each of these fighting games should be bending over backwards to get a slam going.
Well, like 2XCO seems to be on board.
Very on board.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But like the idea that any of the major fighting games would be like,
no, actually, like we're not, we don't think that highly of that slash would question it is just so insane
because it does nothing but massively grow the profile of your game.
It is such a smart idea because first of all, varying out the skill levels enables people,
like non-fighting game streamers to enter into a fighting game event.
But also, I was thinking about this because we're going to be paired up into force duos.
Interesting format.
We're going to be forced duos and we're going to be in teams of five.
And so, like, obviously coaches are going to be competing.
They're all pros.
Every seed one in the entire bracket is Grandmaster player or Challenger player.
Like the top guys are all super super super fucking strong.
But we still have to play a set of five matches two out of three,
which means that, like, actually improving the weakest player on your team is more, like,
time relevant than getting the pros to get more pro.
Yes.
Because the brand new person can go the farthest in the least amount of time.
Teaching your best player to be able to beat Diaphone is way harder and more time consuming than teaching your lowest player to be able to be.
Here's how to do a bread and butter.
Here's how to do a super.
Right.
That's it.
Like, you know, oh, keep in mind when to burst.
Maybe save it for Fury.
you know? Okay, cool. Bam, that's a massive difference.
So yeah, like forcing duos, no juggernaut, no sidekick.
Very cool, very smart.
And you're also forced to pair up with different people on your team.
So no one can really lock in perfect synergy.
There's a lot of scrambling that's kind of like built in to the system.
And so everyone's going to have two pairs, right?
And so there will be one other person that you should like plan.
to actually have a couple matches with.
Is your team slash coach announced yet?
No, that'll be tomorrow.
Okay.
There's a team building form.
Okay.
The form is who do you play?
What's your rank?
Who do you like?
Are you friends with people?
Do you not like people?
Ah, okay.
And then the teams will be,
will be factored in tomorrow.
All right.
Announce tomorrow.
And it appears that they'll be announced to the team.
teams simultaneous to everyone.
Well, this is obviously not official in any way.
Nobody knows until it's announced officially.
But quite frankly, if you're not going back to back with unruly, then you best take that
motherfucker out with the thin dreads.
So this has been discussed.
This has been discussed already.
I literally was talking the dreaded encounter redux.
The issue with me and Kenny is that me and Kenny have the.
exact same ranking.
Oh yeah.
We are both in the middle of Emerald.
Okay.
This means there is a zero percent chance we will end up on the same team.
No.
And an extraordinarily high chance that we will end up on the opposing side of each other.
Yeah, it's better to pitch you against the video games bracket then.
If you're in the same exact ranking right now.
We're dead center of Emerald, both of us.
Okay.
We're both on lock for like seed two or seed three.
depending on how strong the other players.
Who does he play? Do you know?
I don't know.
Okay.
And also very strange for a 2XKO attorney.
Everyone's playing one person.
Like I'm not playing Blitz and Timo.
I'm just playing Timo.
Right, right, right.
You're picking a character.
Unless I get paired up with like the coach in one of my matches.
And he's like, if you don't let me play Timo, we're going to die.
At which point I'll have to switch something else.
Then, yeah, yeah, for sure.
No, that's great.
What's cool too, actually, is people are doing...
So there's this event and something that else that just ran.
There was an event called OneX-K-O.
Okay.
And it was a...
Was that a juggernaut turning?
Juggernaut only.
Single elim, single bracket...
Single elimination?
Best to one.
Best to one. Okay.
So the one is one, one, one, like one all the way across the board.
right first to one single a limb one character only that's like like baby like a baby uh super battle
opera and um so watching that and seeing some of this of what was going on there like people are
discovering that well one juggernaut is not as bad as they thought for in some cases and there's
some also wild um juggernaut tech where um if you if you pop fury at the same time someone someone
pops a burst,
your fury eats their burst.
What?
Your fury eats their burst and forces them to wall bounce.
So basically, to anyone who doesn't know in the game,
burst is the ability for you to escape a combo that you're getting hit by.
So it's your combo breaker, which you get a couple times throughout the match, but not often.
And when you have one character left, you have a stronger version that makes you
tougher, faster, and more powerful.
Your comeback mechanic, you're ex-man.
And if you time it to be at the same time as the weaker version, it just eats it completely and forces a wall bounce, which is like, this is not a scenario.
I don't think anyone has seen up until now, but if you can call out that they're about to do it, you can win, you know?
Fuck your burst and take your soul in so many ways, which is like, okay, that's a cool thing going on there.
So, yeah, there was a one X-K-O event.
Right on.
Okay.
So I did some practice
That's for that yesterday
How'd that go?
It went okay.
I wish my stream hadn't fallen apart
But I did record it locally and put it up
So that's up on on Patsdutte's
YouTube.com slash Pat Stairs
I watched that
And it was
A lot of people didn't know anybody
Everybody knows you
I don't know anybody
I described it when I was talking to say jam
I was like I feel like I went over to Woolie's house
And I wasn't home
like that's something.
Like, it's this really, you know that feeling?
How weird that is?
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
That's great.
Two things happen.
One, when you're playing like non-stop duos,
there are so many fucking strange interactions in that game
with four characters on the screen.
There are so many weird scenarios where assists will like,
like get hit, but like body block your super or your throw.
and just a bunch of just strange interactions that you would never see in a solo context.
Yeah.
That was throwing everybody for a loop or things were hitting when they shouldn't.
Things were dropping when they shouldn't.
Grabs were whiffing because the assist was in the way.
Timo was like invisible behind people's characters.
Oh, man.
Because like depending if he was the assist at the point, he would be physically completely blocked by like
Brahm and Blitz and the Lowy.
And you can't reach people as well when shit like that is happening.
Yeah, that's a fucked up interaction.
It's super weird.
But the other thing is that I was like, I'm going to, I'm going to hang out with these guys.
I'm going to practice up.
And I just got thrown into like the fucking dankest shark pit I have ever entered in my life.
I'm like, all right, let's get some practice games in.
All right.
Who's ready for practice?
Oh, okay.
Hey, I heart justice.
Say Jam, Super noon, void.
uh uh cody oh you you played noon and and uh debuzz and i'm like i'm fucking i can i didn't fight anybody
that wasn't fucking grand master yeah like not a single fucking like what the fuck noon noon was the
one who sat me and reggie down at the the riot fucking booth and went like okay here's how the game
works and like ran through the whole thing you know um and then yeah true to form you're these
are the names you're seeing dominating the fucking
challenger leaderboard as well
that are just like inhaling the game
what's crazy about those interactions
you're mentioning too is that like
most of the time you're fighting two people
or you're fighting one person
and they're switching back and forth between their assist
and whatever
like the most you can
the most fancy thing you can kind of
see people doing is like
let's say you tag in
Vye and then you do her charge
punch and then tag to your second
secondary character and the charge punch
continues and then
releases while you're doing the thing with
the character you just switched to, right?
So characters that can hold down a button or
hold down a move can sort of keep that
charge going as well as it really is to hold down
the button when it's just you. Exactly.
When it's just me holding down the button, I don't have
to multitask. But anything
more elaborate than holding down
a button is like you can't do
that unless two human beings are here
you know? So there's weird
stuff like that. I had
I had like just this
wonderful set of interactions
in which like
I teamed up with Seajam and doos for quite a while
and his Yasuo was really good
and I was trying to help out with Timo
and I had this I felt like like a fucking toddler
trying to help out their big brother
he was like oh I'm gonna push block
and he would go oh fuck and like my push block
like broke his fucking reaction
and caused him to get with punished and die
Oh, yeah, I'm helping.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, sometimes as well, there's a like, you know, you let, like, I don't know what happens if you push block at the same time they do a retreating guard, you know, but like if they were like, I.
It's got to.
I had that, but thank you, you know, or like a, or the worst must be like a bad burst because you have to burst for them.
and if you do that
and then the opponent calls it out
and blocks it
I think the worst thing
and this is not something
that would happen with a tournament
but this would happen
of course with me in practice
I'm like the only person
who'll play a fighting game
I guess and like read chat
like during at the time
during the match
so like I'm holding
the dog is asleep on my chest
and like I'm tagged out
and like oh my I have two seconds
because I'm not you know
I blew my
assist. And I'm looking over reading chat.
I just hear Seajam like screaming like,
help me. Help. Burst.
Burr! Oh, no. I was too late.
Sorry, I was kissing the dog.
Okay.
Sorry, moom, moom, moose. Sorry.
Bro.
Garfield, you had burst.
What are you going to do?
Yeah, okay. Well, fortunately,
what I can say is, I mean, I'm sure.
There's practice. It's practice.
It doesn't count.
Yeah, no. But this is the.
practice that is when you walk into the venue and you see a bunch of beasts crowding around one set
just running tech on each other before the actual tournament begins and like you walk up to
peek over and like a bunch of people with big muscular backs turn to be like what you want space oh yeah
sure open up all right come on in here and you're just like uh do i have next maybe you know um it's it's
it's that you know but but i tell you what uh
I mean, I'm sure you got to see, like with Timo, your goal is, your goal is to win, right?
But really, your goal is to stall for time while your assist comes back and just.
So what I discovered in that and people who watch that set, because I wasn't like 100% free, which makes me very happy because these were killers.
My goal as Timo is to use the fact that the character is good at all these.
keep away and dart and slingshot things to just run up and tick throw professionals like it's
fucking street fighter too and have them go oh what and just throw them into the corner yeah say jam can
come in and do a yes well like ground bounce that'll do that'll do um also phenomenal is timo doing
his blow dart super while you get to do a while you tag in the opponent and they do their mix right like
shenanigans happening while, you know, watch out.
Told you.
It's happening is pretty solid.
So, yeah.
That game's pretty good.
I'm excited to win.
Yes.
I'm excited to win.
Cash money millionaires.
Big prize pools happen in.
Yeah, I don't know how the price pool is split up yet.
You know what?
It seems like everyone's going to get something.
It seems like it's a winner's situation.
So they didn't announce that.
And I think that's actually a pretty.
good move to just be like, yeah, it's not about that, but that's there. That's cool, right? It's not
about that. But seven of the eight teams. But yeah, but like, but like the, the nonsense that comes
from like, here's the top six payout or here we do, do 70, 20, 10? Nah, we do 90, fucking 15,
or, or it's not even, the math doesn't add up, whatever. We do 973 or some shit, you know,
but
yeah you'll find out
after the fact I suppose whatever
but more than anything it's just like
yo get eyeballs on this shit
and get people in there
yeah no it's all for the love of the game
at which point unless my team wins
at which point it was all about the money
like
if I win
okay yeah no that was the plan
so can
can you confirm or deny that do the
winners get a guaranteed
heed access to the Chipotle
hoodie and pants.
It's really funny. I've actually
begged on social media for that
Chipotle. The Chipotle fucking outfit.
There was one
person on
Reddit that was like, hey, I go to Chipotle every day
if you want one, just DM me.
And people have been doing
that. But otherwise...
Hit me up. Someone hit me up on Blue Sky. Give me the
Chipotle crap. I mean,
the Chipotle hoodie is whack,
but the shiny pants, uh,
they kind of go.
You know, I'm not going to lie.
I don't know, because I don't know what a, like, Chipotle doesn't mean anything to me.
So, like, I'll silver jacket.
Okay, that looks all right.
It's, it's a Mexican bowl, basically, you know.
Isn't that the one that keeps making people sick?
Does it?
I don't know.
I think Chipotle is the one that keeps getting caught for making people sick.
I don't know about that.
I do know that it's the one that they tell you, just put it in the bag.
If you're an unemployed fighting game character.
And also, people, people are confirming, yes, it is the one that is,
making people's. Oh, okay, okay. Well, as far as I know,
Seajam has done many a Chipotle ad for officially,
as those are the cards you get for making your way out of pools. And they,
you know, there's a couple of like, let's, let's talk fighting games over some
Chipotle at the restaurant. And every once in a while, we cut to some of the
the beans or whatever, you know. I'm really excited to find out who's on my team.
I'm like, absolutely. Oh, you don't know yet.
No, man. People are still filling out their forms.
Okay, okay.
Because like the whole thing with the BJ slam last night was,
hey,
let's all,
let's all meet and do like a quick little meet and greet and,
and start pair off and,
and try some matches.
Um,
but then at the,
at the late,
late hours of the night,
it was the,
the beast corner as it always is.
Yeah.
Just beast arising.
And like,
when I filled out my form,
I'm like,
every single person I fucking played is in the coach or seed one rank.
Okay.
Like,
okay.
So yeah,
fucking, I'm sure everybody's cool.
Sick.
Yeah, no, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's,
and I think, um, well, I'm sure there, yeah, there, you said the grouping is by, it's by, by,
by character and by who you know and so on and so forth, right?
So, well, yeah, so it's like they don't want to, you know, they put you on team with someone
with a, a coach team, oh, for example.
You say you want to put like, uh, you know, five perfect seeds, right, uh, coach one, two, three, four.
but every single fucking person on that team goes,
I play Timo only.
It's like, well, maybe that's not gonna work.
That being said, man,
Timo is gonna be on like 45% of all matches.
Oh, yeah?
So much Timo.
Really?
Yes.
So much Timo.
I would expect a fuck ton of echo
because on ranked all your,
all you're fighting is my time, my time, my time, my time.
Echo is like execution heavy, man.
Echo has buttons to hit.
Like, it's going to be the Darius and Timo show for like the bottom three seeds, for sure.
Darius is extremely straightforward.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Fair enough.
Fucking Jesus Christ, though, Echo, man.
Anyway, we'll see what happens.
Um, I, I, you know, I was wondering if, um, the, well, what, okay, what I will say is like, like, as, as ranks go up, um, you do, there is a, there is a, a place where I would say, um, just outside of like, Grandmaster, you've got these, uh, heavy, heavy Ari, heavy Yasuo, heavy echo.
Yes.
running it, right? And then
above, there's
like sick Brahms that are back
out of nowhere. I was playing
I played maybe like
two, three hours with Javi. Yeah.
And we loaded in, he was the first guy
I met and the first guy I played. And we loaded
into a Blitz Timo,
Braum Timo set.
Yeah. And his brahm is
fucking aces.
Seeing. Absolutely.
Like, like a lot
of that was missing. And then
suddenly from Grandmaster back, I'm like, oh, there's ridiculous Brahms that are destroying,
ridiculous blitzes that are destroying that are doing shit.
Not my fucking blitz.
But characters that I had stopped seeing are now back in the mix, you know?
But yeah, no, it is.
I'm so excited to see Echo just get hit with the fucking bat, like, real bad.
Like, he's that timewinder shit needs to fucking calm down.
So the problem is that.
anything you do that takes away his identity as a mix-up god would suck and anything you do that takes
away his character time like thing identity sucks he can't be the best projectile zoner in the game
and the best guy with the best mix and also have the best strike assist right yes no so this
I saw a really interesting thought which is like actually make the time winder fire out like twice
as fast so that it doesn't linger nearly as long oh interesting because the lingering
part where it's a bomb
to accidentally fall onto
is like the bigger problem. I think
the thing that might piss off
and take away
the lead, the thing that might help and
take away the, not take away
fun from the people that are enjoying would be
to just pull an akuma and just go
give him four under health. Just drop his health.
Just make it so that he dies easier, right?
He gets all the tools,
he gets all the mixes, and then he just
dies easier. Which is like
be good then. You know.
make less mistakes.
You should have the ability to avoid that.
The burrito fucking OS.
Oh, yeah, no.
What was he was talking about?
Like, he's rolling up the fucking cassidia.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
No, Sejian was just going on.
Oh, I've got burritos and cascadias and tacos and shit.
What the fuck he's talking about?
Now, now, like, oh, someone found some new tech with Warwick.
It's like, we're going to call that a swarba.
You know, and you're like, what the...
Yeah, okay.
So it's just, there's just,
There is a particular thing that Echo can do in the corner that it covers all layers.
So if you roll to escape, if you wake up, if you do a reversal, if whatever you do, you know, you can get mixed and it covers all, all grounds, right?
And they're like, it's a burrito.
It's got everything in it.
It covers everything you need, all your bases.
And that's the burrito OS option select, you know.
So now we're going into other wraps and shorama based, you know, there's a souvlaki OS.
coming out there, I'm sure.
If this was on stream, but I was like, you know, I'll watch say jam stuff.
And, and like you get this thing, which I feel like you and I rarely get now.
So you a say jam fan now?
Yeah, he does great videos.
He's a, he's a smart, talented, interesting, handsome man.
Yeah, I'm aware.
Yeah, I'm aware.
Okay.
But the thing that we don't usually get to do is I don't usually watch a lot of YouTubers or streamers anymore.
So that, that urge to be like, no, man.
like to reach through and leave the comment
just doesn't factor in anymore.
But I got my chance because I'm watching
Secham go through like Darius
and he's explaining the burrito for example
and he's like, nah, the burrito's fake.
You can just get through it.
And you know, Darius's pole isn't very good
because you just learn to parry it.
And I'm like, Say Jam, you were talking about Darius's hook
and how it's too slow
and you just learn to parry it.
And I'm like, but it's hard.
He goes, yeah, yeah, but you get used to it.
And he goes, yeah, if you're streaming fighting games five days a week.
So that exact line, so, okay, I had one of those exactly was me going,
but it's hard, Justin Wong.
Yeah, it's hard to do that.
It is difficult to do.
Yes.
Yeah, the answer's right there.
Yeah, yeah, you just learned to do it.
Like, not me.
Maybe.
No, because, and the thing is, like,
because San Jem is also, like,
fighting against the discourse against
backdashing, right?
You mean car crash neutral?
Car crash neutral, right?
Yes, y'all are going to learn.
Y'all are going to learn
how to survive without car crash neutral, right?
We briefly talked about that,
and I'm like, dude,
I love that subreddit,
and it's because it's like,
because it's not fighting game salt.
It's league salt being
filtered through a fighting game and it's crazy. It's like, it's just the shittiest fucking opinions
ever. Now, now, Supernoon has a point in that whether, when you look at Street Fighter 6,
when you look at Tech and 8, when you look at Grand Blue Fantasy, when you look at all of the new
current games, there is, rush in fast enough. There is a thing that just goes, yeah,
I'm coming at you, right? Everyone's got a humongous,
body torpedo that is armored and starts a combo.
Right, right.
Pull up.
Right, exactly.
But, and like if you're an old school player, you're like, I hate this shit.
Fuck this, right?
Just car crash neutral.
But the idea of someone just being like round start and I'm mashing back dash.
I don't know what I'm doing.
I'm afraid to engage.
But then you're actually playing defensive.
And I'm hoping for my assist to touch you.
And then I'll tag to that and then we'll get going from there.
You can counterplay that.
I can't remember if it was Sage Amher.
or diaphone that I was watching, but they basically described it.
That, that behavior into XCO of just jumping back assist, like nonstop is the same thing
as when you see people in like mid ranks of Street Fighter just wiggle around in footsies,
but they don't know why they're wiggling around.
They just see pro players walk back and forth.
I guess you're supposed to walk back and forth.
And the example as well that he gave of like, it's up back with Ken just doing jump air roundhouse.
Yeah.
jump and then eventually you get up close and they do a sweep and then they just get up and they do
neutral jump jump jump jump jump jump jump and you're just like okay okay right you're you're like
I don't know what I'm doing and I'm afraid so this is going to be safe I have one other option right
exactly and uh you know there is a very clear like you can just calm down and like let them do the
repetitive thing and then be ready to counterplay it what sucks is is when you calm down and then
you get ready to counterplay it and then you miss or or like their their jump or their assist jumps
in and like is like the timing of that is just the exact moment I I tapped forward was when that
assist appeared fuck you know so yeah there's a little bit of that going on and um there is something
too as well where like assists come out insanely fast you know like you can when you find that you
hit one out of the way when they jump in or stuff you got lucky a lot of the time like that was just a
you're looking at the timing going probably now, but I don't know for sure.
And people are kind of afraid of the idea of like, okay, if we just rush up to each other and wiggle around and press our medium buttons, one of us is going to get hit by it, but I don't know which one it's going to be.
Therefore, I'm just not, I'm going to mitigate all chances.
Oh my God, he's clowning on you in the comments for the announcement of the player.
Oh!
I'm going to send you a fucking screenshot.
I'm going to screen his screen his screen because the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
The video on his channel went up that's like announcing the players and like every comment he can find that is like
Oh fucking rip wully dad brain. That's the little say jam.
He's liking them.
You son of a bitch.
Man, I can't stand that man, say jam.
God damn it.
You fuck.
Okay.
Oh, you're getting fucked on.
Man.
You could have just lefted it, yo.
Oh, no.
No.
Oh.
Oh.
God damn.
Why use it?
All right.
Oh, I'm going to talk so much shit about him to my baby.
I'm a fucking, I'm going to tell my daughter to hate say jam.
Fuck that.
No one hates say jam.
I'm a start early.
Start early.
Start early.
Exactly.
Just play the Giuna clips over and over.
I can't stand,
Seajam.
There was such a weird fucking moment
hanging out with all these
these proper professional street fighter
character,
fighting game players and Seajam
and all these content creators.
And just this moment of like,
oh man,
I wonder what the next character's going to be
fucking dead silence.
Just dead.
Yeah.
Just I couldn't have been.
Not even,
I wonder.
Not even like,
huh?
Nah,
nah.
Bro, bro.
You're not.
within friend DA privileges
all right
you don't get access to friend DA
you know you're not there yet you got to earn that
right when you get that
when you get that secret invite to the
Illuminati discord yeah yeah the back rooms
right yeah just make sure to
I'll just make sure to
click on that invite before it
expires
that would be a good idea
um
yeah so so everyone
tune in
and lend patch your energy.
I need it. I need it.
You remember to
do your proper
mushroom setups.
Oh, I can't do that shit. I can't do that shit.
Oh, yeah, you don't have...
No, Wully, Willie, when I tell you,
watch out, watch out, watch out.
Wully, you can go watch the footage.
If I will tell you, I cannot do a Timo
combo worth a shit.
Oh.
His tick throw the best player in the world like five times in a match.
And like I will turn whatever game I am playing into fucking Street Fighter 2 with Geef.
I'll do it.
Okay.
You got those grabs.
You got those grabs.
All right.
Damn.
Yeah, no.
I mean, the answer is always you should detect it.
That's their fault.
Cool.
So what else is going on?
All right.
What else is going on?
I'm clowned up today, obviously.
But I have a clown-based announcement for everyone.
So it's actually quite warm in my office right now, which is what sucks that I'm holding
this hoodie together.
But you see, I've gone back to the first clown look that we did a couple weeks ago.
Also, somebody says that this is the last clown week.
No, I'm not doing it.
When I say a month of clown on the podcast, that's not 28 days.
that's that's five podcasts committal right no the real thing is that uh i've been talking with bricky
lately and there are now pat clown shirt pat's clown over at orchid delight i'm posting the link
in the chat you can go to my blue sky how do you spell that uh orchid delight let me i should check
shop
dot or
or
orc
h-i-d-d-
E-I-G
oh it's Orchid 8
I'm an idiot
That's important
That is important
That is extraordinarily
important
Aren't you
Aren't you glad I asked you how to spell that?
It's so good that you asked me that
That's a very important detail
Oh well walk-a-waka-waka I'm a clown
Orchidate.com.
Shop.orgate 8.
Okay.
Yes, these are limited time clown shirts.
These will be going away in a couple of weeks.
I believe the final day is November 8th.
If you want them, buy them.
I'm wearing it.
It's very nice on my boobs.
Up to 6XL.
Yes.
For you, for you like big boys,
big girls out there.
Okay, I think if you order a 6XL,
you can fit into a five, you just want that extra comfort.
I think that has to be what's going on.
If you order 6xel, you want to put it on your like boyfriend or husband and then like
once it gets that smell, you want to take it off the boyfriend or husband and then just use
it as a full on blanket.
Blanket.
That's the, yeah.
I can see as well that this is O'Courn as it has the updated mutton chop in purple as as part
of the design as well.
So this is, no, no, no.
That is just the, that's the.
That's the ginger.
Okay.
Okay.
There you go.
That's,
that's the red,
man.
That's,
that's my regular one.
This is based off of my first clown appearance.
I was going to say you,
because I was going to say you went back to first clown,
but that's,
that's default.
Yes.
This is the,
this is that's default clown situation.
Okay.
Okay.
Um,
that is proper promotion.
So please go buy as many of those shirts as you want.
Until November 8th.
And then it's too late.
It's too late after that.
Pat, you neglected to mention that it comes with three clown stickers.
Yeah, by the way, those clown stickers are actually huge.
They're way bigger than I thought they were.
They're like the size of my fist.
Granted, I have a tiny baby man's fist, but they're much larger.
They're actually like to scale in the photo.
All right.
Well, mine is now on the way.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
So I'm going to have your woolly doll.
There you go.
I can kiss on that and you're going to have my face on your chest.
There you go.
And you just spill things on me.
Available now at Orchid Delight.
Yes.
Thank you.
That's,
fuck.
You fool.
Don't send this to Bricky.
Don't send this.
You absolute buff.
I've been having such a good time talking with Bricky lately.
No, I'll tell you what.
I've been having like, aside from getting into the slam and aside from hanging out with Bricky,
I've had like a stressful week.
My internet just started to die.
I was talking, I'll bet this a little bit beforehand.
But like anybody who's tried to watch any of the streams I've done since Thursday,
cataclysmic, just completely fucking fell apart.
I usually stream at 20,000 KBBS, which is nice at 1440p. 60.
It looks really nice.
Just down to fucking zero frames.
Down to zero fucking frame.
Down to nothing.
And I had the ISP man out here this morning.
morning, the technician, which thank God I got him so quickly.
And he gave me a new router, a fancy router. He upgraded my service, faster internet.
And he gets all set up. And it works. And I'm like, and he's like, cool. And then like, he's
leaving and he's in my yard. And I'm like, I'm going to run a fucking speed test on nuclear right now.
And I run it. And it, it kicks back like fucking 10 megabits. And it's like the upload is nothing.
And I'm like, I actually
I have the baby on my shoulder,
on my shoulder, like a potato
chasing after this dude in my ear, go, hey,
hey, wait, wait, come back in.
It broke when you started to leave.
You can get some potato quality streams going,
but I think you need at least one frame.
Yeah, no.
And so he comes back in.
And I'm like, yeah, so I appointed the office setup.
I go, I do live streaming.
I work every day.
I really, I really,
need you to fix this
and he starts to get stressed out
and he pulls out his phone
and calls like his boss
and he's like yeah and he's explaining
the problem and you know when you hear a technician
or a plumber or a tradesman
explain a problem to somebody on the phone
and it's very obvious that they don't know
what to tell him the fucking customer
but I'm a customer I'm standing right there
and so the second guy comes out
and the second guy
fucking fucks with it and he installs a
attenuator or something
some shit and says, ah, the modem's got to learn to love it or whatever the fuck.
And then they tell me about the, the lasers in my region need replacing.
And I'm just like, is it fucking fixed or not?
No problem makes you feel like more of a helpless baby than the internet goes down.
And you're like, well, I just can't do anything.
I need the internet to go up.
I know I'm in the hustle economy here.
You can't even pretend, you know?
Like something goes wrong.
on the car and like some
real man comes around and starts
fixing it and you can stand and you stand
around and you can just be like mm yeah
yeah must have been the
carburetor
you know apparently the signal
coming into my house is too hot
whatever the fuck that
means and because it's so
hot it's hitting my modem and going
wum mom mom mom mom mom so they installed
a little gate to
fucking
tell it to calm down
and
now it's not vibrating as hard.
And I'm like,
I'm talking about a signal?
What do you mean?
It's too hot.
It's heat.
He's like,
well,
no.
And he showed me,
like,
hold open,
like,
not like a,
like a tablet,
but like a,
like a,
engineer's tablet.
And he's like,
well,
see,
these are the uncorrectable errors.
And I don't fucking know what that fucking means.
I don't know what it works now.
The stream is fine.
I ran,
I ran a,
like,
a Twitch inspector stream
for like multiple hours.
Zero drop frames.
Hey, woo.
But like, just this thing of like, I gotta fucking get out there, man.
Like, I got things I gotta do.
No, I, when I switched to fiber and I saw the numbers go burr and I was like, yay.
Yeah.
But then every once in a while, they would stop going burr and go dead silent and then come back.
And I'd be like, I don't like this like side thing, you know.
and also
I remember asking the technician
I was like so I've heard that like
if the wire bends even a little bit
it's just fucked forever
and he's like okay the wire
inside your house
no right
like this part to this part
going out here to this wall is fine
and then obviously you're running your
cat six cable and whatever and so on
but the part outside your house
going to the fiber thing
that cannot move
but like a fucking tree could fall on it or like a tall truck
go fuck yourself
the elements say eat shit
right fiber is nice
the fiber is nice until like god coughs
you know yeah so
but yeah no I had this thing and then
Paige ended up getting up after
because I take the baby in the morning she ended up getting up after
all was said and done and
she's like internet fix I'm like yeah she's like
great and I'm just like sitting there like stare at like my my fucking elbows are on my knees
I'm just stare at the fucking ground going okay sidebar sidebar because there are definitely
network technicians listening to this right now desperately trying to make it look like
they're busy at their jobs which they've gotten very good at taking a 15 minute problem
and turning it into a three hour problem and I applaud you truly make no mistake the stolen
wages are still going to be on the company's benefit, but you're doing your thing out there
and you're trying.
Oh, you see, oh, I see some of them.
You already caught a couple.
All right.
So can you guys, okay, well, listen, I won't expose you, but can you confirm a piece of
information for me?
Is it true?
Because I know when we all moved from cat five to cat six cable, right?
But is it true that seven and eight are pretty much bullshit and are kind of just marketing
scams that are not real, but like six is more than fine for anything.
commercial, non-commercial, anything residential, essentially.
Because I was reading about it and it was kind of like, oh, if you go and get like yourself a cat-8 cable or whatever, it's like, you don't need that in your house.
And it's not going to make a difference with what the, what kind of pipe is coming your way.
But it's new, though.
Okay.
People are saying you're kind of on the, on the ball with this.
Okay.
Because I hear, yes, most people, cat six is you're going to get everything you need from that.
I got, I got like the strangest.
Like you ever have somebody like you appreciate somebody willing to talk inside baseball about their profession to you when they're at your house or whatever?
I do appreciate that.
And I love it.
And then I got one today that was like I actually didn't want this about like the internet service.
So like the conversation came up that I'm a residential customer and I'm not a business customer.
And the reason why this came up is because on the phone he said, yeah, guys running his home business out of his.
fucking house and apparently four guys in their office leapt to their feet because they overheard
the other guys say he's a business customer because they just sit around all day waiting for like
the ATMs in gas stations to fail oh shit like there's like an entire team of business guys
okay this internet customers that exist exclusively for the grocery store.
checkout connection to fail.
Yeah.
They need to be there and they need to be fixed now.
Yeah.
And so like as I as they're like no he's a residential customer, they all just went.
Oh.
And like sat back in their chairs and went back to like doodling on their fucking phones.
I think the last.
And then the guy telling me that story says, hey, by the way, you know, like you're not
going to get like better service if you're a business customer.
Just more guys will show up to your house.
Yeah. Perfect. That's good. That's good. Looking busy. Looking good. Looking good, looking good folks, you know. Yeah. Bring them all some lemonade. Um, no, the only time I think, uh, like recently or so that I've, that I've had something like word made a difference was heading down to the bank in person. And it was like, oh, wait, I have a business card. I can therefore go to the business line.
And so you walk past the plebian line and you go to the business line.
I'm a big boy and I do big boy business.
And then you get there and you're like, yeah, can I take out $30 please with my fucking, you know, with my business debit.
You know, and they're like, sure, man.
I like, we're here for payroll because people show up to do their payroll shit, you know, but technically your card says business.
Payroll in person in this day and age and Lord's Own 2025.
There's whatever something, there's people that line up there to do stuff and they walk in with lots of papers to do the business line.
Oh, that's fucking insane.
You know, and I'm like, I need, I'd like $30, please.
That's crazy.
But anyways.
Cool, cool.
What else did I do this?
So I can't remember what I did this week because what I did this week got fucked up.
so many times.
Like I wanted to tell you about more Digimon stuff.
I wanted to tell you about
the experience of
leading page through Rory2 Blind,
which is going to leave, if not for the
disastrous internet things.
The only thing I can tell you is that I played
Tormented Souls 2,
which is a Resident Evil-like.
It is the sequel to a different indie game.
called Tormented Souls 1.
Okay.
It is, hey man, do you like old style tank control Resident Evil games?
And I go, yes!
Yes, I fucking do.
I absolutely do.
And it is a really, really excellent version of one of those games.
It's spooky.
It has incredible environmental detail.
It has absolutely fiendish puzzles.
I got a code for it.
Yeah, well, I was about to say, like, if I'm sure you got an email that's like, hey, we noticed you played Signallis and Crow Country.
That is literally.
So, we're emailing you this because shut the fuck up and put it in. You're going to like it.
Idiot. Absolutely.
Yeah, all right. But with that came, hey, by the way, here's the puzzle guide for reviewers.
Okay.
And I was like, I don't fucking need that. I did. I do.
need that shit. The puzzles in
Tormented Souls 2 are really
hard. They're
really hard.
They're like kind
of diabolical, especially after I just went
through Silent Hill F, the puzzles in that game
are like a joke compared to Tormented
Souls 2. Okay, now are we talking puzzles
in the Silent Hill
the solution is outside the game
knowledge sense or in the
you can use what's in front of you to
logic it together.
You can use what's in front of you
but like it it requires a certain degree of intuition.
Okay.
That is, is like, like, they really want you to fucking pay attention to everything.
Okay.
Like, it kind of kicked my ass.
That being said, it's also, like, much larger in scope than the first game.
The first game took place nearly entirely in, like, a mental hospital.
and this one takes place in like an evil convent
and then I
defeated the convent and then
left the convent and went into the town
and then I did the mall and then I did the process of the thing
and it's like it goes from Resident Evil
homage to Silent Hill 3 homage.
Okay.
And it's really cool.
It's just a really, really cool, excellent game.
I'm going to go back to it this week
because I now have working internet
and I can.
and I'm going to go back to
I'm going to go back to
Digimon this week
like a big boy because I can
and that's my current plans
I also am doing a sponsored show
for gloomy eyes on Halloween
and we're going to do an R.A.2 one on Halloween
and I have a
Dragon Quest 1 plus 2 HD remake
sponsored stream on
Thursday,
the 30th.
Okay.
Oh, I tried to play
power wash simulator too with Bricky and we discovered that the game's multiplayer just doesn't work
at all. Oh great, great. Yeah. Like that changed together problem I had just now. Nothing. Sick. Absolutely
nothing. Afterthought. And, uh, well, it's like a primary fucking function of the game. And you know when
you know it's really bad when I refunded it on Steam and you know the drop down thing that's like,
what is your issue with the game? The first one at the top is the multiplayer doesn't work. And I'm like,
that seems like it's the most common refund reason if it's at the top.
That's fucking sucks, man.
Damn.
Yeah.
Okay.
Solva says Power Watch one head multiplayer and it also didn't work.
That's fucking hilarious.
So they just never fixed it and put a sequel out.
That's really fucking phenomenal.
Yeah.
I was talking about when we were talking about Digimon the other day and I was
curious and um
additional monsters yeah no uh because we're talking about like i mentioned like cyber sleuth was like a
thing i was considering at some point and uh i did get confirmation um from uh oh yeah no shout
outs to crem to poof and an inlaw who let me know that the new one doesn't have any
connection to the previous ones and totally stand alone and it doesn't matter if you played cyber
sleuth totally stand alone i should have mentioned that that's pretty solid information that you don't
need to know anything about the rest and you can just jump in there.
Yeah, man, you know what you need to know is the Digimon stand is short for a digital
monster.
Okay.
But they'll tell you that actually.
Are they the champions?
That has not come up as of yet.
But maybe it will.
Maybe it will.
Cool.
All right.
Is there anything else that's going on with me?
Nah.
nah
go out of
Twitch.
tv slash
pat stares at
and YouTube
dot com
slash pat stares at
I do streams
again
hooray
what's up
with you man
um
yeah
unfortunately
not not much
um
you know
this week
just
stuff going on
but the
the main thing
I just
played a little bit
more silk song
um
all I really
You're getting there, right?
You're closing in.
A bit, but not that much because
like all I did was I went down to the abyss
and made it back up.
That's kind of a fucking huge step.
You're in there.
So that platform, I'm not going to fall for the bait.
I'm not going to fall for the bait of looking at dots on the map
and thinking, this is surely the final
stretch until I make it where I need to
towards the end or whatever.
But that platforming
that you do to make it out of there is like
that's hell of tense.
That's a little like,
oh, okay. You're asking,
you're doing what you do.
That's the platforming only had one or two
moments that were like pushing it before that.
And then here's one where they go,
here's a boss fight that's a platforming segment.
You know.
You want to hear the craziest thing.
somebody came into my stream this week and said,
did you know that they actually patched Savage Beasts Fly 2
and the platforming section to be different?
They're separated now.
Oh.
Huh.
Isn't that fucking crazy?
You accessed them apart from each other?
Yeah, so they moved Savage Beasts Fly over to a different lava area
and then the platforming segments to see.
Whoa.
Interesting.
Okay.
Yeah, I mean, it was in your way.
It was in your way.
So, um, but yeah, I know that's, that's, that's, that's kind of it.
And, um, I do thoroughly appreciate the equivalent of fast travel.
Like, no, no, the third form of fast travel that you get.
That's like, shut the fuck up super travel fast travel.
Um, because, um, in Silk Song, it's rather in Hollow Night, um,
that was a really nice time saver,
but the limitation on it was very like,
pick your spot,
that's where you're going to go.
It's still kind of like that.
It's still kind of like that.
Yeah, but it gives you more freedom, right,
to hit the, the, the Bell Beast, essentially,
because you had, you had, you had, you had, you had,
your, your, one-way travel, essentially in Hollow Night.
Um, and I pretty much kept it at the home city.
and like there were times where I was like
I'm grinding out this one thing
I want to put it elsewhere
but the track back is such a pain in the ass
you know and so you'd feel bad for doing that and stuff
and you're like I'm far enough into it
that I want to skip past a lot of this
you know and I would say that like
they gave it right around the perfect time
in Act 3 where you're like choosing to expose
yourself to as much or as little
of the reformed map as possible
because truthfully
I don't want to actually
scrape the entire Act 3 map and see all the new shit.
Like I, I, there's new shit in that Act 3 map that I didn't do.
Yeah.
And I still got 100%, which is the weirdest part.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Well, the invisible 100% right.
Well, no, no, no.
There's, 100% counts like items and, and items from bosses and like everything that
ticks the counters up, right?
I, um, I can tell within me that I'm like,
I don't have enough left in me to do this full map scrape traversal again.
I just don't want to.
I want to see some cool things and then have a nice denouement, you know, and make my way out.
So I will see what I feel like rooms I run into.
I'm going to turn your volume up a little bit more.
There we go.
I'm going to see what I feel like touching on.
now everyone.
You're quite a bit louder in my ears.
Oh, yeah.
God fucking damn it.
It's cool.
Don't worry about it.
And that's kind of the idea, you know, is like, I can look and go, I don't want all of this,
but I do want to see what's going on in this area that seems like cool.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And like, you walk into that one room in Act 2 and you go, oh, there's some good
shit in this room, right?
Fucking terracotta warriors
standing on guard and you're like,
I like this room. I like the cut of this
gym. There's some cool old people
standing around and here with some big swords.
Tell me about that. And they're like, yo, go back
to that room and I'm like, yeah.
So that's the shit where I'm like, I can't get there
fast enough, you know?
But
beyond that, I'm also like looking at
some zones and I'm like, fuck everything
poison related forever, even if I have
the thing that mitigates it because it doesn't even mitigate it
entirely, you know?
Nah.
So, yeah, that's pretty much it.
Just poking at Silk Song a bit.
And obviously, to XCO, that continues as well.
I can, I am, this is one of those bits where I'm just like, all right.
Can, is there any reasonable way?
I'm looking at it.
I'm like, is there any reasonable world where I could hit Challenger?
And it's like, get the fuck out of here.
here because I was talking to to Javier about this.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Challenger's top 100.
Yeah.
But the guys that are, I thought it's top five.
No, it's top 100.
Top one.
Okay, legend is top five.
But the problem is, is that in Challenger, like guys like noon and void and shit like that,
they're just grinding all day.
They live.
That's all you see.
And so the top 100 LP, it's getting farther and farther away from you every day.
Yes.
You will never catch up with hook gang God.
It's impossible.
You will never catch up with nerd.
Josh, it's impossible.
They're just living and breathing.
I mean, dude's fucking help and balance.
But like, I have a friend from, so one of the best Nether Realm players is Hayate.
He's from Montreal.
Shout out, good, good, homie.
He's been breathing this game every day.
And he's on the challenger list.
And like, yeah, it's got to be your oxygen.
It's your fucking morning, noon, and night, you know?
And even if you are.
are like, even if you have the skill in some, if you found, if you got all the tech and
were just that nice with it, like the rate of matches.
Yeah, no, I got, this whole thing set me up really bad because like I'm playing a match
against fucking a team of Cody and Supernoon.
And it's me and say jam.
And like, we lose.
And he's like, don't worry about it.
These guys are fucking jobless sweats.
They got no fucking jobs.
And I'm like, I don't know, these guys well enough?
Do you guys not have jobs?
As like, no, no, no.
Their job is to fucking get good at 2XCO.
You'll never catch it.
They'll never catch up.
Yeah.
As, you know, just to say, like, the job is to be a consistent streamer now.
The job is to make the content, you know?
It's like, Kizzy, yeah, sure, you could go out there in Windows tournaments.
But how about you post more clips with a bonk coconut noise when you land an overhead on somebody?
No.
You know,
Tunk.
You know,
anyways,
suffice to say that,
I think we're going to have a sort of
strive celestial floor kind of vibe to Grandmaster.
Eventually.
Because,
like,
as I'm crossing the threshold and I'm like,
hey,
cool,
I got here.
And the distance between me and the people in whatever,
like,
bronze or whatever the lower, you know, the distance between people at the beginning and where I am
versus the distance between where that as and fucking top of challenger is orders of magnitude.
Equivalent.
Orders of magnitude.
Well, here's the thing.
It's like when you say the bottom, like you don't really, like the bottom is a person who's
playing their first match.
And that, that jump from that to you is like infinite to most people.
But I guess what would happen?
I think basically it's better to have a larger number
for whatever your true rank Elo category is.
So Street Fighter 6 has a problem with legend because there's 500,
which is okay, that's cool, but there's an issue with Japan
and the way you earn points over in Japan is way easier than the way you earn points in North America.
Oh, is that true?
Yeah, there's an issue with that where people that are,
are like better players.
You can go to Japan and like shoot the fuck up because the matches you're getting
reward more compared to the points you get.
That's fucking racist.
They want Japanese players at the top of the rankings.
That's crazy.
It's because of the amount of players and the distribution and the way the math works out.
People are talking about how like, yeah, ranked in Japan speeds you the fuck up to the top
of legend.
That's super funny, man.
with your master point distribution compared to North America and elsewhere, right?
The density makes a difference.
So that sucks, you know, and not to mention as well, like you're getting pocketed.
You're getting pockets of players where you might run into the same people in your state or province often that are in your ranking all week long, you know, and Japan, smaller area, dense population, skill level, etc.
You're getting more varied matches against, you know, these different players.
So, um, but anyway, all this to say that, uh, and I think, um, DNF, like at the top ranking,
it got, it counted like the top thousand or something to that effect. But they're basically
hit, you hit a point where you're like, okay, just show me the number because everything
above this, uh, doesn't really matter, you know? Um, what was wild though, what you probably
never want to do again was, I don't know if you remember in Street Fighter 5 when you
finished your like ranking first matches or whatever. It goes, all right, cool. You are now.
700,000th
I actually really love that
On the list
It's like
What the fuck are you doing
You're telling me my rank is
Six digits
Dude I love
I love that because it gave you
Such a clear
Like focus for improvement
Like it wasn't an obvious skated
Like I mean there was bronze
And ironing
Yeah there was there was
But like hey I want up a fucking thousand ranks today
Yeah, yeah, no, you went from 700,000th to like top 200,000.
Congratulations.
That's crazy. That's incredible.
That's so much progress.
You're nuts, you know?
And then you get down to like four digits and you're like, wow.
Wow.
Right?
That's less than the number of entrants at Evo.
That's crazy.
I'm amazing.
I'm a God.
Yeah.
It's just, it's insane to just be like your rank is longer than your fucking bank
account number, you know?
Anyway, anyway, so
that's pretty much it.
Not much else there.
However, this week
on the schedule over on
Twitch.tv.tv slash willieversus as well as
YouTube.com slash woolly versus.
Going to, we did our chill stream.
We had some opinions. We had some takes.
I fucking loved
like going
in there. It's the chill stream of
opinions because like I wanted I wanted worse opinions I got to be
fair like I caught in there and you were talking about like I just caught a bunch of
X-Files episodes at random I'm like yeah that's actually like literally what happened to
every single person our age that's not a bad opinion at all X-Files is cowboy
bebop how about that it is it is how about that the beginning and ending of every
season is the conspiracy which kind of sucks and then in the middle it's like what
if what if what if you went to uh what if oh god what if you fought a blackula or the jersey devil or
molder got eaten by a mushroom in the entire episode's fake or a water monster during a hurricane or
the time that they went to a homeowner's association neighborhood and they had accidentally
summoned a trash golem that would kill you if your grass was too long right um and then and then
the other bit was, and this is,
can you confirm, like, the lone gunman
was, like, the shit and amazing and this...
Oh, I didn't watch the lone gunman.
Okay.
The lone gunmen in the show were actually
really cool side characters,
but I would say that that's where they should have stayed.
I have no desire to watch a lone gunman TV show.
Ah.
Because I've heard it referred to as, like, a really good spinoff
where, like, it's a good short show with all these,
with these interesting characters.
And they just kind of said, fuck it at the end and destroyed all chance of them, you know, being their own thing or in the future or whatever the case is, you know.
But I've heard it, I've heard it referred to almost like Torchwood, which was like a Doctor Who spin-off show that was like successful in its own right, doing its own thing.
You know, it's like sometimes the little spin-off series takes off and does its own bit.
And I heard the lone gunman referred to as like pretty solid.
I don't know.
Um, in any case.
So really, it's a really troubling issue with X-Files that the conspiracy episodes are by far the most boring,
except they feature the more famous than the X-Files cigarette smoking man.
Yes.
Who is just the absolute best fucking villain I have ever seen in anything.
Because all he does is stand in kind of half shadow and smoke like a lot and say like two cryptic,
cryptic things and then like walk away and disappear.
Because you what?
That's it.
I'm so evil.
No.
And I understand the idea of like this is the dude in the shadows standing behind Ronald
Reagan.
You know,
as he's as he's lining up the fucking,
the little envelope that says crack on it.
You know?
And it's like,
yes,
this is the shadows,
the agent,
the G man,
you know,
that's making it all happen.
And for some reason,
my last memories of him are just in a cave.
I don't know.
You're right.
Okay.
You're right.
I didn't hallucinate.
No, that definitely did happen.
But, yeah, so we did that, and then we're going to try sprinkling on an extra stream or two this week.
So Thursday, we will be jumping back in to Act 2 of Expedition 33.
Oh, there we go.
It's been waiting for this one.
that will resume and back to get into fighting games on Saturday as well.
Jimmy Bones is going to come over.
I'll rather, excuse me, Uncle Jimmy, as he goes by now.
And yeah, we're going to do some 2X, some double cross knockout.
Will he eventually have to turn that to Unk, Jimmy?
I think he had the choice to and he decided not to.
I think he's going with just Uncle Jimmy for now.
But the branding might, who knows, you know, you start off as a Snoop Dog horror character
and you can go anywhere from that.
Yeah.
So we'll see how this goes.
And full disclosure, it might go terribly.
And I might have to dial back to less days the week after.
But we'll see.
Oh, you're good.
I don't want to put anyone's expectations up.
Oh, you're a smart guy.
But like resuming the LP is one thing where I'm like, I don't want to fucking be like,
ah, shit, sorry, you know, break again.
But we're just, yeah, taking the time to do more.
Whatever, baby take time.
All right.
There.
Yeah.
Babies take time.
Well, luck, I mean, luckily, the baby's just like, like right over there.
It's like she's right over there.
Yeah, but she's getting more complex.
It's not getting simpler.
Yeah, so that's the problem is, it's so.
The hellraiser fucking Rubik's Cube is just, there's new fast.
It's inside.
So, like, hey, when does it get easier and when is it less stressful?
When they go to school and then you'll want to die because you're going to miss your best friend every day.
Oh.
Right.
And that's why you get one of these ugly little dogs.
Because I'm at the time right now where my guy, I'll give him a hug.
I don't like this.
Mm-hmm.
I want down.
Thank you, Deda.
Thank you for down.
I'm like, okay.
I'm going to just pick up the dog and just be like
Yeah, like
Her farts just started smelling, man
I'm just like, yo what the fuck
What's going on in that stomach? What's happening there?
This is, whatever it is, I know that
Whatever it is, it's happening the first time
And it's a premonition for something that's about to
That's about to come. I'm like, oh, a change has occurred
Your farts now smell. I know that this means something.
You know, I'm piecing together the language clues
for what the fuck that's about to be.
Yeah, anyways.
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So, um, there is some news this week.
There's a couple of things.
We can start with our brand new segment.
How hath God blighted, uh, high-fi rush this week.
Oh, that one, huh?
Yeah, it seems to be a cursed, cursed game.
I can't remember the last time I've seen so many ebbs and so many flows before, uh, another
product has been announced.
Oh.
Why is he so excited?
I think the idea of
crafting an AI
first company is making
boost.
Oh, it's activated caboose.
This is making boost get up
and start moving.
Yeah, man.
This sucks.
So, you know,
looking at this from the high fire rush
perspective, hey, amazing game
out of nowhere. Wow.
Overnight success.
Oh, great.
for no reason
literally actually no reason even on the books
amazing shut it to shut it all down
no wait from off the ground
like Napoleon
Crafton has picked up Tango Gameworks
and placed it upon its head
and then everyone's like
yay high fire rush this great game that didn't deserve
to get trashed for succeeding
has a chance now
and
said company announced
with their ownership of PubG Subnotica and Tango,
that they're now an AI first company with automated work,
AI-centric HR management systems and workflows,
in-game AI, full company lighting.
So I talked about this earlier this week,
and I feel like there's two things that could be happening here.
One is this is one of those things
that a bunch of the fucking subhuman business freaks at the top
just say and just tell everybody below
them to just do it and don't
understand like don't even take steps
to implement it themselves. It's just like, yeah, we're doing
AI now. Yeah.
But the other thing is that if I was
a person working at
Tango GameWorks,
particularly in management, I
would embark upon the
Mel Brooks style of
big wig management, which is
designate one person on the
team, but you are no longer
working on the game. What you are
is fabricating nonsense.
to distract the person who is directly above me.
Yes.
You are here to doctor up AI reports.
Yes.
Like fabricate meetings out of nothing.
Just lie.
Just lie like crazy.
Well, the people who are pushing the actual AI is going to save the company thing
are lying harder and bigger in contributing to this bubble that everyone knows is a bubble.
Oh, that's the problem, Willie.
I have been, I'm constantly looking in on this.
They believe it.
So, but that's the, that's the problem.
They're not lying.
They actually think that the AI can do your job.
So there are, they don't do any work.
There are, amongst the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, there are people who are basically, I know it's, right?
right especially the ones who are watching it fail in front of them every day for example like if you're
staring at this thing that's supposed to save the company all of these millions of dollars and billions
of dollars and it's not happening you can see it fucking printing out a uh a dick butt and go huh
well okay can i get out before anyone notices with my money bags is always the question can you
time the market.
It's amazing because I've seen the latest statistic was like, this is now eight times
the size of the dot-com bubble.
Oh, yeah.
I saw like an argument that it could be up to 20 times as big.
Hypothetically.
By the time it bursts.
You know, and it represents 99% of US GDP growth this year.
I mean, you know, never.
And like that, I was touching on this on the.
on the chill stream, but just like, yeah, the part where you're more or less pitching or selling
the idea that this is general intelligence and that it's totally the same and everything is
going to magically overnight replace all your workers and it's all going to work amazingly well.
I don't know if you fucking saw Albania has an AI minister.
Yeah, that's part of the cabinet.
I think, like, yeah, I saw this summed up perfectly like 18 months ago, which was
AI is not good enough to do your job.
And she's pregnant, yeah.
It's good enough to fool your boss who doesn't know how your job works into thinking that it can do your job.
That's correct.
Yeah.
Like, that's it.
Anyways, so that fucking sucks.
And it's like, you know, was High Fire Rush saved or was it bitten by a zombie?
we'll see if the corpse animated we saw it get back up but we haven't seen it speak or we haven't
heard it speak yet hmm hmm it's kind of shuffling around a little bit you know um okay beyond that um
and speaking of the the crashes you dump everything into this bullshit and it's just again
it's exhausting and boring to talk about it's very exhausting um it's just kind of funny because
I just, whenever you get the numbers on these things,
it's so you kind of just go like,
okay. So Bloomberg,
recently looked into the Microsoft numbers.
And what they have is,
yeah, the euphemism they use at Microsoft
is accountability margins
to describe profit margins essentially,
which is,
it's just an interesting way of phrasing it, you know?
It's like, no, no, it's not a profit margin.
It's accountability.
It's something that you need to be responsible
for. It's what you are, it's, it is what your due diligence is to deliver on accountability, right?
Anyway, um, so, uh, basically, long story short, the global video games market saw a massive high
of, um, profit margins reaching like 22% during COVID when things, it'll ever be,
when, when things were popping the fuck off during 2020 and 2021, because yes, exactly,
everyone was home and had very little else to do but play some fucking video games.
And then that dropped it down to an average of about 17% last year in 2024.
That's not a bad number.
That's where the market tends to sit right now.
But Microsoft's chief financial officer, they set a target of 30% for Xbox to deliver as of 2023 moving forward.
So,
uh,
Glutton's unsatisfied with all the riches of heaven
looking at the 22% margins that were happening during the peak of COVID gaming.
They're like,
nah,
highest revenue to ever happen for video games ever.
Nah,
fuck that.
We need to beat that at 30%.
And then you then turn around and plug this into all the other news we've been talking about
with everyone getting fired with everything.
all this money man oh why don't we hi what have we were what have we took labor costs and put labor
costs down to zero by firing everyone and then the robot can make halo just kyloren dot gif um i mean yeah
absolute clown shoe shit um yeah no that there 30 percent profit margin is going to go really well
with their console lineup that features a thousand dollar handheld that jean had to
conspire with like tech support to play Halo and the regular consoles that are no longer being
sold in like Walmart, Kmart and Costco.
Dude, we have been referring to the stupidity of like a bunch of people going, oh my God,
look at the numbers go up during COVID and she and seeking that high.
Right.
Yeah.
And that high that they've been seeking was 22% finding out now that they're like,
that's not enough we need it's not enough it needs we got to shoot it's got to be further beyond fuck
this it's got to be the impossible right cool how's that working out let's ask master chief yeah how's
master chief doing always coming to playstation fucking sick like i just can i can i can i like
the idea that they are doing interviews talking about the next xbox console and
And then the next day, I'm watching a Sony PlayStation logo stamped onto MasterCepe.
What are you fucking talking about?
If everything's an Xbox and my PlayStation is a PlayStation and my PlayStation
is an Xbox, why would I ever buy an Xbox that's also not a PlayStation?
It's fucking psychotic, man.
It's completely bad shit.
So yes, Halo campaign evolved.
available soon on PS5.
And there you go, your console warriors, right?
So did you see there was a leak that came out that was like,
the next Halo is going to feature AI at every part of development?
And then someone came out and said absolutely not, absolutely not.
And then the trailer for Halo Campaign Evolved came out
in which it's really clear it has AI voice acting in it.
It's very clear.
And the level designer for Halo 1, I think his name is Jamie Griesmer.
I might be being mispronouncing it.
Just went on this massive thread that was like, why'd they remove the rocks?
I put the rocks there so you can't drive up the wart hog and run over the hunters.
Why did they do?
Why are you allowing a sprint button?
If you sprint down this corridor, then Marty's music doesn't have a chance to
kick in. Do they even know what they're doing? And the answer is fucking no, they doubt.
So a lot of, a lot of people, a lot of people are experiencing this type of shit for the first time,
uh, as they've grown up with this, this generation of console war being the one that they know first.
All I can say is, this one went on for a really long time. It did. It did. It did. Right.
But at least when Sonic showed up at Nintendo's door, there was a smoldering crater behind him,
with nary a flame to be found left, right?
At least when Sonic was like, yeah, okay, it's software now.
That's what we're doing.
It was thoroughly, thoroughly extinguished as far as a business goes.
Watching this happen with like their, you know,
it's an active console for sale right now.
While out the other side of their mouth,
they're talking about the new Xbox business.
Are you insane?
Are you like
I'm going to buy an
Your house is on fire sir
I'm going to buy an Xbox
so that I can play game pass
for 360 to
$400 a year
but if I don't do that
I'll be able to buy a PlayStation
in which every Xbox game
will also come to
and also all the Sony games
I don't know mom dad
which one do I buy
like it really
is, it really does feel like,
okay, investors, we got you all in
this room, now wait till we show you
what we have in store. Don't you go
anywhere? And like in the glass around
him, people are being marched
out at gunpoint and thrown out
and being replaced with robots and
things are exploding. And it's
like every single
news article about Microsoft
that everyone is reading is
exploding piece by piece.
But they're like, no, no, no, no, no, it's great. It's great.
It's fine. Don't go anywhere. It's totally okay.
Master Chief just walked out the door
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's fine, it's fine.
Chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, right?
Now, this was all, of course,
there was that earlier discussion about, like,
oh, maybe the future can be kind of like DVD players
and consoles can all share and things can be open.
Yes, and the DVD player of choice will be the Sony
PlayStation once again.
And Sony's like, you are more than welcome
to use our Blu-rays and our controllers
and our hardware and our memory.
and our memory and our everything
for this new
open generation
of hardware. Absolutely.
The PlayStation is right
there. Feel free to use it to
your heart's content as we
as we share.
Yeah.
Absolute buffoonery. Just crazy.
Get a hit 30% profit.
You're going to hit it.
The numbers are always amazing and hilarious to see.
That's fun stuff. There is literally no way
they will hit, like, are able to hit 30% profit on literally anything.
Well, at this point, you're just like, it's not, it can't really be about that.
It has to just be a stalling tactic to allow them to say to people, hey, look at what we've set
our targets for.
Don't you worry, our projected growth in that projected growth chart, that's 30%.
It also allows.
Remember COVID?
COVID's fucking dirt, shit, garbage compared to where we're going in our projection.
projected charts.
It allows for them to do,
it allows them to fire anybody for any reason
because they'll be like,
well,
you didn't hit your targets.
Accountability.
Accountability targets.
And the other thing is that,
that we're in the,
it must have been on stream,
but wasn't here.
We're in the part of the AI bubble
or the consumer bubble
that I have started to call
why can't I buy a normal TV
in honor of the 3D TV nonsense that Sony tried to push
and all the TV manufacturers tried to push.
So like Microsoft is like putting stuff out like
AI is so successful, we're making so much money.
How do you know that?
Well, look how many million, billions of minutes of AI use there have been.
By the way, we're including all usage of the programs Word and Teams.
Oh, right. Yes. Regardless of use of AI feature within. Oh, no. Every thing your job makes you use.
Everyone that's used a search box on any website recently that's been forced to get a result.
I love it. That's also considered usage of AI is it, even though nobody asked for it. Yeah, cool. Okay.
So, you know, after the Japanese bubble popping led eventually to the, the, the, the, the, the Japanese bubble popping led eventually to the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the.
the anime Kaiji and its death games as a direct result.
And, uh, you know, you keep talking about it should be blood sports, but I'm sure we'll find
a quick, a through line to that.
Yeah, maybe.
Sooner than you think.
Um, anyways.
All right.
Something else happened.
And this one is weird.
This is, okay, this is one of these weird things where I'm completely outside of
this world.
And, um, maybe you can give me some insight on how to feel.
Maybe. Maybe.
Because I have to say, when I read a headline like Counter Strikes Player Economy is in free fall.
Let's go!
Because nearly $2 billion of value in counting have dropped ever since knife skins have become more readily available.
I go, well, that sounds hilarious because...
You're fucking right.
That is how to feel.
Because the idea of a ridiculous inflated aftermarket is,
in any of these games is something that I've never participated in in this way.
And it sounds crazy that this structure like continues to be a thing.
But I know there's tons of MMOs and online games and things where the aftermarket trading thing is just, it's a part of the game economy and people just get used to it.
And I am, it's, it seems like fucking dog shit to me every time I hear about it.
But I don't know.
I will, I will clear up.
up a little bit around the edges here.
We'll just do a little trim around the edges.
Make it make sure we're clean.
We know what we're doing.
So online economies and MMOs are supposed to be entirely within their own ecosystem.
In the game.
In the game.
Yeah.
Paying for, except for Yvonline, but that's a different beast altogether.
Paying for time, paying for clears, paying for items.
It's supposed to be for in-game resources.
It gets more complicated when external actors like gold farmers allow you to turn money into gold, gold into money.
La-da-da-da-da, right?
But that is like nearly exclusively outside the realm of the beast.
Okay.
Right.
Eve Online has always allowed you to turn into Plex.
Yes.
And then Plex has monetary value and so blah, blah, blah.
And then Diablo is the other one I think of.
And then Diablo 3's auction house.
wanted to get it going and that kind of fucking ruined it for everybody.
Yeah. So in CounterStrike, however, it's using the steam trading system.
So your skin that you have works the same as like a steam trading card.
You can sell it for money dollars either in the system with Steam wallet or outside of the system for cash.
This means that the system is by default not contained within Counterstrike.
It has real money value.
They've created basically skins that are NFTs.
They're digital goods.
And the user determines the price on whatever they sell?
No.
Well, you can, but the market really determines the price on what you're going to sell.
But you can enter the number yourself.
You can enter the number, but Steam will provide a expected.
eBay, eBay-ish, like this is what you should probably be doing, but regardless, yeah, okay.
So the Steam Counter-Strike market is a,
insanely corrupt.
It is, it is like bordering on criminal, depending on what your moral view of it is.
It is wildly predatory.
And it's for like, it's for like knife skins that don't look good.
It sucks.
Because knife skins can't be acquired the same way as other gun skins.
It's basically loot boxes combined with like a free market idea.
There have been a number of scandals, a couple of which we have talked about where you can do
like gambling for for Counterstrike skins.
And what would happen is like I'd be a streamer and I would go on Counterstrike and I would have an audience that I could look through my metrics and see that it's an 8 to 14 year old boy audience.
And I would just run a slot machine on CS skins.
And it's crazy, dude.
I would win the most valuable, most rare skins over and over and over.
By the way, neglected to inform people.
I own the website that I'm gambling.
Oh.
I have rigged the odds.
in my favor.
Oh, wow.
So like it is just overtly criminal.
And what all Valve has done is giving you the ability to take five garbo skins and throw them into a pot and use that to upgrade a rarity on something or roll the dice on a higher level.
Basically keeping it within their own system instead of you going, well, I have this, this, this, this trash.
And I have to sell it to this guy in order to get the money to get this.
Instead, they just go, no, just feed it.
Feed it to the thing.
Word on the street is, in addition to 14-year-olds,
it's also actual, legit, real criminals and gangs and, like, fucking Russian mobsters.
Money into fake good, into fake good sale into money out.
Yes, exactly.
Fat Tony is interested.
He heard that.
So this horribly fucked up the skin market and people are saying, well, the market's back up and all this.
And it's like, here's the thing.
The market for this is entirely speculative and bordering on criminal.
And it's completely outside of control.
And it's a centralized control that you have no effect on.
So any investment in this is just dancing on the edge of a knife and just hoaxing.
Hoping that doesn't pop before you get out like don't do fucking stop
Oh all I had were vibes before this but I'm like this exactly as dirty as it looks
Oh my god. Okay so then you see a picture of a fucking knife skin and it's like it's fucking over
It's done my entire my entire wallet is dead my savings all of it gone because the knife skin is now available to other people
it is no longer artificially false.
Yeah, because for a amount of time,
the fucking, the value, you know,
there were limited rates to say, oh, it's 0.2% of all knives
of this knife. But then when people had the ability to turn
lower tier shit into higher tier shit, all of a sudden, all the rates got all
fucked up. And then the market, it's a fucking...
My knife apes. My knife apes, bro.
No.
Okay, it's exactly what it looks like. Yeah.
All this aftermarket shit,
just seems so disgusting every time.
I, I, dude, it's super is.
Yeah. Um, and the developer has like, has to choose to turn that on.
Oh, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Yeah.
You okay, buddy?
Yeah.
Oh, I saw people in the chat going, oh, man.
Oh, the dog's so cute.
I'm like, yeah.
No, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was flashing balls at us for a bit there,
but then he started to slip.
He doesn't have nothing back there.
It's just an empty sack.
And worth an empty sack worth more than this knife skin, though.
Absolutely.
100%.
Yeah, no, the moment the, the moment the dev chooses to enable that shit, right?
You are opening up Pandora's box.
Go fuck yourself.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So Valve is always at the forefront of ways to make crazy money.
Right?
They had a crazy idea back in the aughts, which is what have we had a store?
you could buy video games on your computer that was easy to use.
Sure, sure.
But I also, but I, that was like to start.
But I remember when Chivo's came out for the Xbox and then it was like, you can get those and that's all fine and dandy.
But then they were like, what if your achievements gave you a thing that you could trade?
That's crazy.
That had a value and cards and profiles and animations and so on.
And then now.
Yeah, and then they were like, what if you played a game that ruined your life, but it was free?
With Dota, too.
But what if you could buy?
So like the whole skin economy goes from like it goes from Team Fortress to through Dota into Counterstrike.
And it's just all they're always just like new versions of the same thing.
Now if this is making them a fuck ton of money and then this type of change is a spiral that explodes and destroys two billion of their overnight.
You have to question this clearly is a deliberate choice.
they made that they wanted to happen.
Yeah, they wanted to keep more people inside the system
rather than going to external sources.
Oh, okay. Okay, so they were trying
to flush... Because when you sell your
skin to a guy over there
through their website, that's technically
outside of the system and they're not
getting their cut, but instead, if you feed
the rarity through the... It's a whole fucking thing.
Okay. And I know what you're thinking.
You're thinking, oh, who cares about...
Oh, man, what I have... No, the two billion
is gone. All my... All my
apes are gone. By the dip!
By the dip!
But it's time!
But this was specifically to flush out Nikolai and Boris.
Yeah, a little bit.
This was the kind of fucking...
It's not going to work.
Yeah.
It's not going to work, but...
This was about them a bit more than it was about Braden.
Oh, fuck.
Ban the Aden's.
This life.
The Aiden's...
The Aidan's are coming, man.
That's a whole general...
on its way. Make no mistake.
Okay. Well, there's that.
You love to see it.
You love to see it.
I also love to see. You know what I love to see?
What do you like to see, bud?
After a big backlash, after everybody was very upset about the choices that this company made.
Yeah, that's right.
Capcom says, you know what? Let's release a statement.
about this whole Capcom Cup
pay-per-view situation.
It's a statement.
What was the statement?
People seem to be very upset
about what's going on.
So, hey, everybody,
we know what's going on
with the Capcom Pub, basically.
An update regarding the announcement
on September 8th,
yada-a-da.
Step one, the background of the decision.
Here is us explaining
that we've made a decision
that with Street Fighter League,
we want to make money,
and we want to, yada, yada, so we're going to be greedy, and we're going to be
charging people for the pay-per-view pricing.
To be fair, to be fair, to be fair, I have also said this.
Yes, yes.
And, uh, I do like the money.
So, so, um, you know, the background is that we would like some money.
Um, we've always said that.
And I always said that.
We will, we will continue to, to provide, uh, details about how much money we want soon in
late October.
So please look forward.
to us announcing more about the money we want.
Future communications, going forward,
we will be clearer and more accessible
about updates regarding how much money we want
with Capcom Esports.
Please note that the presale tickets
for the pay-per-view of Treat Fighter League,
we want the money still.
So we're still going to be asking you to pay us.
Please look forward to it.
Is Capcom saying, quote,
Give me money, money me, money now, me a money needing a lot now, end quote.
Paraphrase, Gibbs, Gibbs, with the little hand gesture, Gibbs.
I think we can summarize.
Thank you, yeah, thank you, money for moneying my money, I'm money, money, money, money.
however the quote goes
I think I don't know what the
fuck anyone expected I genuinely don't know
what the fuck anyone expected I kind of respect
them for putting out a statement
they put out a statement
but fucking pay me though
like that's really funny
they came to the podium
and they cleared their throat
and leaned into the microphone
and made the big bending noise
and it went
and they went
Gibbs
give me more though
I want it
and everyone's like
word? Like that's it.
Did you think they were going to fucking change?
Are you crazy?
I mean, I just
like I want to imagine
Nakayaba over at
the development side
throwing his phone across the
office like fucking
yeating that shit at full
speed into a wall
because oh my God, after dancing
as delicately as possible
around the subject and being
hey guys the dev team does
have anything to do with these decisions
and we sure came up
with some great ways to make
Capcom Cup profitable without
just doing a stupid pay-per-view
and it was cool to do
that back in the day, wasn't it? Anyways
It was. It was cool, yeah.
Feeling cute might delete this later.
Yeah.
Right? Only to be greeted
with the official response of
nah
though
is wild. It's
It's like silence would have served you better,
but all you've done is remind everybody how upset they are
and redouble your efforts.
Wow, Street Fighter really wants you to get a lot of cash for the tournament.
You could just watch the box jam slam for free next week.
See your favorite content creators, even.
That's crazy.
Wow.
I kind of want someone to make a really elaborate Capcom Cup co-stream event
that involves them staring at the timer of the match
and getting really hype as the timer goes down.
Yeah.
That would be nice.
Anyways,
fucking,
wow.
This has like,
okay,
for everybody who's,
like,
obsessed with,
like,
actually seeing the Capcom Cup,
this is going to lead to them,
like,
watching it pirated.
But for everybody who's like,
oh,
man,
I'll watch the Capcom Cup,
but isn't like,
I have to watch the Capcom Cup,
they've relegated it to the way
like wrestling paper views were
where like I'll ask Eric
on Monday who
won the title
oh like yeah no
I'm not gonna watch it I'm just gonna ask
you the following Tuesday
who won
if you really want to see
a fucking a Paul brother get knocked out
you're gonna pirate that stream
spoiler alert that's not gonna happen
that's not the way they're set up
however if you
otherwise you'll just be like
nah, I'll wait for high fight
to do the cool frame by frame
just breakdown of all the sickest moments
and what the top players were thinking.
Don't point that out.
That's too specific.
I'll just wait for my favorite account
to do an incredible breakdown of the best matches.
I know it's really hard,
but I wish they did way more of those
because it's really cool.
They take a lot of effort, but high fight's incredible.
Yeah.
So fuck
all that noise, Capcom. Let's talk about some real fighting games over here. Yeah. The return of the
trilogy, Toshinden. Sure. Battle Arena to Shindon. What the fuck you know about Tosindon?
I'm gonna... I'm gonna... E. Dia is porting one, two, and three to modern platforms.
You in there? You a show main? You play Aegee? I'm, I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I.
I'm like, did we even fucking do Friday night.
Oh, you bet your ass.
Okay, I'm going to ask you to Google.
Because it doesn't come up when I look up.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Listen, Google Sophia Toshinden and then ask yourself, did we not do?
Of course we did.
This is Obari art style directed 3D fighting game.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes, we did.
It's so weird because it was just an early.
3D fighter and it
wasn't very good but it was there
and it was 3D and it had
characters that were kind of anime and that
was it. That was good
enough. That's all you needed to be.
100%.
So that shit's coming
that's just coming to modern platforms.
And more to it.
The Avatar
Legends
Fighting Game just announced the closed beta test is coming.
soon.
We don't know when.
We don't know if the dates yet.
But they showed off a little bit more gameplay footage in this trailer.
And in this gameplay footage, you can see airbenders moving in really cool ways with some sort of movement options.
And firebenders moving in unique ways with some firebending options as they fight against each other.
And it's like, wow, that's a dope-ass fucking subsystem going on right there.
Also, it's a 1v-1, you know, fighter.
So it's like very street fighter-esque in that regard,
but it's also high speed and lots of cool shit going on.
You know, animation-wise, sprite-wise, looks pretty dope.
Every time you see little gameplay snippets,
you kind of know that they put in little bits to show you like, hey, we know, right?
It's like if you're watching and you see like a really fast, like dirty mix-up
or you see like someone get tech a throw and you're like,
we're putting that in, we're putting this in for anyone who might know what this,
what this like tech is, you know, and go like,
Ooh, this game has this or this game has that.
So anyway, um, yeah.
I, uh, I, I think Avatar's cool.
And, uh, I'm, it's all right.
We'll see, we'll see what's going on here.
Way better than it, than any right to be for what it was.
It's one of those shows, right?
That could have been a random fucking, like, flop of a cartoon that would go the way of any 90s,
forgettable show did.
But it turned out to be fantastic.
a cartoon series
that successful
based off of that god awful movie
is really impressive
turning it around
I think I think
managing to ring
some value out of that absolute
god awful M. Night Shyamalan movie
is just incredible it really is
you know he set it up and they fucking knocked it out of the park
who says
what if the air
what if the earth benders were like on a
on a boat fucking crazy that's way better
God, I just, I always just, I hear the voice of Patrice O'Neill in my head, just getting so excited.
Go in, nah, they're sending everybody for this one kid.
This movie looks so sick.
You're just like, why, dude?
That is not a crossover.
Why?
Why?
Yeah.
He was excited for the fucking live action air bender movie, just because he saw that trailer.
Did he see it?
I don't think he did.
I think he was convinced that it was dog shit, you know, by the point that he left us.
But, man.
Anyways, never minding that shit.
There's some cool random indie games that got announced.
Can I complain about a random indie game that I've been playing lately?
Yeah.
You know how Hades 2 said that it was 1.0 and then it was finished?
Mm-hmm.
Did you believe that to be an abject lie?
Hold on.
Is this super giant games,
Hades 2?
Yes, that would be the one.
Ah, hmm.
Yeah.
I am one run from beating the game,
and I am waiting on a patch
that is apparently completely changing
the entire game's ending from top to bottom.
Now, by any chance,
does this patch have a character name attached to it?
Like, no, it's not called like the Knicks patch or something.
It's called Patch 1.
Okay, cool.
Completely rewrites the entire game's ending.
To the point where if you already beat it, they're going to add a feature to go back in time in your story to redo it.
Uh.
Can I?
Yeah.
Can the game please be finished when they say it's, I'm not, I'm not even going to complain about Roe
traitor again. I should, but I won't. But if they say it's done, can they mean it, please?
Serves you right, boy. Now do it again.
That was a pretty good Haiti's impression. Thank you. That was pretty good.
So, no, I was talking about, I saw two Indies that popped up that were, it was,
somewhat similar an idea
but then some cool shit's going on.
One, there's this game called
Ball X Pit. I've played
ball pit. That looks fucking cool.
I have played Ball X-Pit. I have
not brought it up on the podcast because I haven't played
all that much of it. Okay.
It is very cool.
It looks so cool.
It is very cool. I just wanted
to call some attention to check this shit out.
It is a survival,
rogue-like, ball-bust,
whatever. You move
down a
Arconoid style
track
pinball-esque
and you are
doing
Arconoid
ball busting
but you're
platforming at the same
time
So the brick breaker
genre is like a
breakout
Breakout
Breakout, sure
that predates
Arkanoi
it's it's
it's breakout vampire
Survivor
Yeah that's that's a
great way to put it
It's just breakout vampire
survivors
You're you
with bullet patterns
being dodged
at the same time
as playing breakout
And if you're like
man, I fucking love breakout and I fucking love
vampire survivors.
Guess what? It's
good. Yes. It's also
very important to note is
besides that concept, it's
exploding with juice. It's got
many juice. It's so juicy.
Now,
besides
that, which is available now and
overwhelmingly positive and I just took a look
and went, yeah, that
I saw like one second
of footage and was like, yes.
Yes. Okay.
And so in a similar vein, another
mini-rogelike
over here called
Slots and Dagger's. Have you seen this?
Hold on. I think I have a fucking...
Let's go search my email.
Okay. So slots and daggers
is... I am aware of it. I have not
played it. I'm going to...
So this is...
Another...
This email has a quote from Northern Lion on it.
Quote, this one might have the juice, end quote.
It is juicy.
Ball pit is juicy and slots and daggers is fucking juicy.
So this is the same thing except you're doing rogue-like fights and progressing and buying weapons and so on,
but you're doing it inside a slot machine.
But the slot machine is exploding with juice.
There's chips and there's coins and every button has some feedback to it and all the noises are going and all the, again, all the things that Balotro could use for evil, but instead is using for good, it feels like it's got that here too.
I haven't played either of these, but I just took a look at them and went, yeah, that looks fucking cool.
So it just, and you're clicking on things and you're getting feedback and it's, and you know what it has?
It has the lighting that inscription had where you're looking at like pixel art assets in a in a realistically lit environment, you know?
So, so yeah, that's also just fucking rogue light clicker.
It's not ball expit.
It's just ball pit.
The trailer says ball pit.
Well, I mean, I just call a fucking ball pit.
But I think ball ex pit is how you.
type it to search to find it. Yeah, but I want to say ball pit. Hunter, Hunter.
Yeah. Yeah. Um, I want to say a ball pit out. And then, uh, the last, uh, little indie game here, um, known as Kirby Air Riders.
I know, what's that? Um, up and comer, little dev known as a, uh, uh, a sack. Kourai?
He's got some bright ideas.
He's got some interesting stuff.
Yeah.
You know, he's got a little game coming out.
And apparently there's a global test ride.
So if you want to try it out.
Like, there's two Nintendo Direx for it.
And in summary, shit looks fucking sick.
And like, what are you going to say?
It's a Sakurai game.
He's going to make way too much.
And you know that because he confirmed.
He's like, by the way, this is not a revitalization of a series that'll be on
going, nor is there any planned
DLC.
So it's just fucking Kirby AirRiles. It's all
going to be in there. Story mode,
lore mode, fucking, you watch
your city trial. For people that like a Kirby
Air Ride man, good for
them. I couldn't
even fathom
a interested blink.
It's hype.
And I really appreciate the clip of
Max where everyone's getting hype
over Rick, the return of Rick
the hamster. Because
Rick was a little one of Kirby's friends that he could ride on in Kirby Adventure in three, you know, and he's been gone for a while.
So seeing him come back and you can ride on him and stuff is really cool, just like Wheely and everything.
And then he's like, this is what the fuck?
People are just getting excited for a hamster.
That's so crazy.
What's next?
The random rock.
And then Rocky is here, you know, like, yeah.
Let's fucking go.
So hype.
Love it.
It's the best.
It's the best.
There's very little you need to keep track of except for if you want to try out an early version of it.
Yeah, November 8th, 9th, and then 15 and 16.
News as of like a few minutes ago.
Let's go.
New World, the Amazon MMO, is done being developed.
It is going to be over.
They're going to keep the servers operating
to 2026, but the next content is the last one.
Hold on a minute.
Is this the game that we talked about like four years ago?
I'm going to hold up my finger.
I'm going to tell you, this is the game
that you could type in code into the chat box,
and it would active, it would be a script thing.
it is over now
Wow
Amazon Game Studios
affected by mass company layoffs
including the world team
Amazon game studios affected by mass company layoffs
Are we in a fucking
Are we trapped in a cycle?
A little bit
Are we staring at the
Are we looking at ourselves
In the portal to the past right now
Is it just the same like
It's current year
Amazon tried making games
it didn't work.
They laid everybody off.
Has had the...
I wake up.
It's current year.
Amazon's the worst at making games
because they have no patience.
That's it.
I mean, just...
From that quote from the guy behind Prime Gaming,
he's like, we thought we were going to be a competitor to Steam.
Yeah.
And the interviewer was like, what do you mean?
He's like, you know, like a service.
It was like, you have a service?
Like, like, they had the single most popular online storefront in the world.
And like you couldn't just put an ad that, like a button that said, hey, did you know Prime Gaming has a fucking ad?
Like, okay, fine, whatever.
Listen, man, at least live action Fury had the decency to cancel itself immediately upon release.
And the Luna.
Do we even bring that up afterwards?
Because it just killed itself.
The Luna and the lunatics continue to exist well into the stadiums era.
And, you know, it takes a level of like big blind money obfuscation to not know that a project is failing for a couple years before they catch on and kill it.
It's, it's, I talked like at length about this on my show a few days ago.
And I was like, I'm not an economist.
But I do have an education in psychology.
And I am a completely obsessed freak bit nerd about the video game industry.
And it's like, I'm not an economist, but why is it that me and you and many, many people in this chat have spent like literally 30 years going, oh, that's a scam. That's going to crash.
Just being right every single fucking time.
I don't know.
I remember the virtual boy being the first one.
And I remember being the Phantom being the second one.
I remember reading about the Phantom in a magazine and going, that's never going to come out.
It feels like this feeling, what you're describing,
it feels like this exists in everything,
except it's,
and it's just a simple matter of no matter what form of business you're talking about,
the people making the decisions don't actually talk to the people that consume the thing.
Like,
like,
it's just a matter of asking the person that's right there buying the ticket or the object or the product or the event or whatever the fuck it is.
Economics is always secondary to consumer psychology.
It,
Like, like, all those things you just described not having don't fucking matter because you have a vibe that everyone here also has that's just like, nah, that's stupid. What the fuck? Fuck that. I'm not spending my money on that. And it's over. And they're just, and it's just that simple. It's a simple thought and it's done and it's dead. Do you remember touching an Uyah controlling? And just going, I'm never going to play a game on this fucking thing. Like literally never.
And then, but then you have to think about the person who's making the decisions that holds that controller and doesn't understand why what the problem is. They can't identify it. They're like, yeah, it's like that one over there that the people do like. The kids enjoy that one. Those are the types of people. The people that cannot extricate meaning or value from their everyday world who are so utterly fooled by AI because close enough is how they view actually every interaction around them.
Right, right, right.
And all you have to do is actually participate in the thing.
Actually play a game and or just keep up.
Like, actually participate in the thing you're investing in here to know a thing or two about it.
Instead of just going off of what your kids playing on his phone and then yelling at, you know, the next investor meeting.
There was some fucking dipshit HBO, fucking 2BPbo, whatever the fuck.
fuck it was who was like there's a real market for feature length films
Lawrence of Arabia on your phone on your phone in vertical because my son keeps
watching Netflix Lawrence of Arabia on your phone and it's that was the was that
quibby was that poobo no I think I think it was just straight up Netflix was it quibby
never mind excuse me quibby wow yeah all right you can just poop it are you
familiar with that?
Poob?
Yeah, no, okay, hold on.
Hold on.
It's a copy pasta
that sums up
the media landscape.
Ah, yes, yes.
It's a Tumblr post
that I believe
came from a gentleman
named Ork Boxer,
which is,
have you seen the new show?
It's on Tubu.
It's literally on Hebe.
It's on pooty with ads.
It's literally on Dippy.
You can probably find it on Wino.
Dude, it's on Gumpy.
It's a Feebo
original. It's on poob.
You can watch it on poob. You can go
to poop and watch it. Walk on to poop
right now. Go to poop, dive
into poop. You can poop it. It's on
poop. Poop has it for you.
Pooh has it for you.
Like this is a
This is years old.
Oh man. It's more
funnier and funnier
over time.
Oh, fuck. It's that's exactly
this is exactly it.
Just insert word.
Just poop it up.
Oh, fuck.
Yeah.
Because they're all these,
they're all these fucking fake, cute little tubis and shitmoes.
Just, just try the thing for one second and realize.
Say it out loud once.
Uh, poob.
It's on poop.
You could poob it right now.
Dive it to poob.
A poob original.
I think
Gumpy and Feebo original.
That's solid.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Weeno is also pretty good.
I kind of like Weeno.
That's that one sticking.
That's strong.
That's a pretty strong one.
Um,
uh,
you know,
like I was,
because I'm,
I laugh at the idea of like apps where you just take a verb and take the last
of a vowel out of it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know,
Thripper.
or whatever
and you got to have the P and the R next to each other
but then yeah
but this is also like the no the cutesy one
well that's that's right Xbox is trying
to do everything's an Xbox shit
they want everyone to say all my they want
the whole purpose of everything's in Xbox
is they want human beings to say
Xbox to mean video games
like people say Nintendo
on the Nintendo the Nintendo
the problem is that people say
Nintendo to mean video games and
that's never going to change. Like, never, ever.
Counterpoint, I don't think kids these days are saying it. I think it's that's still
Boomer Plus. They're not saying anything. They're in their classrooms not knowing how to read
and getting behavioral problems. Yeah, I think, um, I think people are, I think we're,
how about you read 67 pages in a row without fucking text of speech, you fucking,
nerds.
I think we're past the
things being called Nintendo. Now the kids
are on to 6-7. There you go. Exactly.
True. I got to say, I do
think that the children are cringe
and that their shit is whack. However,
I feel like people our age do not
remember how cringe and whack
our shit was when we were aged. I think there's a real
confirmation bias going on. You do.
not get to laugh about 6-7 or call it cringe if you memed e.
If you're part of the generation that memed E for a while, or even B for that matter.
You don't get to laugh at it.
Hey, you want to hear a really good, you want to hear a really excellent version of this shit.
Okay, so sometimes you're in the car and the baby, the toddler is like, I want to listen to music, right?
Mm-hmm.
and you're in the middle of talking to your wife
about how fucked the new generation is
and how they can't read and all their shit is insufferable
and skitt-a-ditty toilet
and you're playing Raffy for your child
because Raffy is a cool guy who does great children's songs
and here comes Bulga
you know, here comes down by the bay, etc.
And here we go with motherfucking banana phone.
Ah.
and you're gripped with the absolute fucking stranglehold this had on your internet life for a multi-year period.
And you're like, yeah, know that.
It had stang power.
Fuck it.
Let's sing it.
It's fun to sing.
It has staying power.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
It's got a peel.
When I had to, when I was improvising some random, like, little sing-songies to, to start
singing at her.
First things that came to mind
were Grenadian elementary
school songs.
What up?
Yeah, but shit that I hadn't
shit I haven't scratched
in fucking 40
years started coming back out.
You know, singing the counting song
and stuff that came straight
from the islands. Like, I'm like, I had not
access that memory in a very long
time. I barely even knew that was still in there.
So,
anyways,
Let's grab a letter or two.
Hey, if you want to send in a letter, send it to Castle Super Beastmail at gmail.com.
That's Castle Superbeastmail at Gmail.com.
All right, we got a couple in here.
Let's see, we got a bunch of these.
All right, Remurai, how you doing?
Oh, Remerai. Hey, man.
Yo.
Hello, Wicked Woolly and Pat Leachie.
A few years ago, I played a casual management game called Bear and Breakfast.
You play as a bear running a few different vacation sites,
and as such, you get more and more responsibilities,
things like checking in and out guests,
preparing meals, heating, stuff like that.
But you're a bear.
While I had a charming art style,
it had a charming art style and lots of potential,
it felt undercooked because at the time I was playing it,
the worst thing I noticed,
gameplay design-wise, was every major reward
was the ability to automate chores entirely
at the cost of effectiveness.
A game making a core component of its disdemeanor
design kind of boring and then rewarding you with the ability to not have to use the mechanics at all felt
like a huge misstep. The game should be fun to play and then make you want to engage with it even
more. So this was just a weird design choice. Can you think of any really bad rewards or upgrades?
The gaming equivalent of a Charlie Brown getting rocks while tricking or treating.
Okay. So first of all, I'm going to tell this person, Remora, you're a wonderful man and I love you
and your games are great, especially the ones that have me in them.
True. But don't.
play factorial
or satisfactory
busy work
becoming the
automated process
yeah
I mean
in terms of
awful rewards
you know
there are always
standout examples
I've been making fun
of fucking a hundred
etcio feathers
to get his mom
to talk for years
that's the only way
to get her to open her mouth up
recently I was talking about
in Shinobi
how there's a kuna
I upgrade that makes you throw three Kunae out, but then now you can't do combos as effectively
anymore by juggling them off. So the upgrade actually makes your comboing worse because you want it
as a juggle opportunity, not a thing to just kill them out or drop the body. I think FF16 giving
the player the blitzring like 10% through the game and making the dodge like so insane. Super Dodge.
Yeah.
maybe not a great idea because you're like,
I should take this off because it'll be more fun,
but it's like the single most effective piece of gear you have.
And it feels cool to use it, though.
Yeah.
Like, so I'm,
like,
I didn't feel like it was a downgrade in that regard.
It just felt busted,
right?
Which we have to self-regulate on a bunch of times in other games.
I'm going to say,
uh,
to me,
I think top of all time,
just go fuck yourself is,
um,
900 Korox.
I think 900 Korox is peak Nintendo go fuck yourself
Well you were never supposed to get all of them
No because the reward
The reward for getting them all is a piece of shit
Yeah
You get a golden turd
Get fucked loser
Celebrating your accomplishment
You know
So that's to me the all time most
Just
Fuck you
Uh a reward and
Busy work nonsense
it's like you put it in there to make fun of the player and then it's in a Zelda game and then you fucking shit on them for doing it
it's kind of great though half halfway through you stop getting inventory expansion it just fucking becomes
you found me yeah i'm having trouble but there's there's a lot of upgrades you can get in games
that like make you make parts of your your character's kit just too strong enough in one
direction that they either screw up the rhythm you had before or incentivize you not having a
gameplay rhythm at all. They incentivize you. Just do this move over and over and over and over.
Right, right, right, right, right. Yeah. Like, oh, you know what? Thank you. Someone in chat. Thank you,
Merck Jones. Death Stranding 2's snow tires are like game ruining because you're like, man,
I'm spending a lot of time in the truck, but at least we're in the mountains now. And the game
gives you snow tires, let you climb mountains with the truck.
And I'm like, God damn it, this is a million times stronger and more efficient than walking.
Fuck.
Yeah, I, uh, if anything's giving you trouble and devil may cry for special edition, just lunar face.
Just do it.
That's that'll, there's not a whole lot that knows how to deal with it.
Just take a minute to think about your next move. And in the meantime, Lunar phase.
phase.
All right.
Let's see here.
We got one coming in from Daisy who says,
Dear, my favorite tech and economist, economic journalists,
your discussion about the slow crash of the industry made me think.
Is this actually a slow crash?
Or does our perspective of history expect it to be faster?
It seems like recorded history makes it easy to talk about major moments in a couple
sentences, distorting our awareness that historical speed is measured in years instead of days.
When we read about a decade-long event in 10 seconds,
Do we expect that kind of speed constantly?
Food for thought.
People think that because the Internet's screwed up their brains
and the perspective of the flow of time.
But let me give you a really good example.
In 1939, like most people in North America,
did not realize that World War II was happening.
Okay, okay.
Like, oh, wow, there's a conflict in Europe.
Oh, crazy.
Well, I guess it depends on it.
Most people depending on where you lived, right?
That's why I said North America.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Right.
So this makes sense to me, but I also remember that, like, since we're the last generation, like, before Internet, right?
I feel like we have a much more tangible, like, access to the slower pace of media being released and how, like, one thing would come out and you would just stick to that one thing for months.
if not most of a year.
And then another thing next year was like, holy shit, thing too, you know.
But you just digested so much less and events happened less frequently.
Also, being younger meant you weren't paying attention to world events as much, you know.
I remember while I was trying to watch Power Rangers and then my cousins were switching over to Rhapsody,
then my parents would switch on the news and I'd hear about Bosnia and Sarajevo.
And I'd be like, I don't know what those things are, but okay.
And, you know, now the idea of rolling through a doom scroll and rattling off like 50 news
stories and hitting the end of it in one bathroom shit is insanity.
That you were never supposed to hear about bad things happening for that more than a mile
from where you fucking live.
Whatever.
10,000 faces in your life, you know, like yada yada, right?
So that's it.
So it kind of is true that history feels like in some ways you read about it in this insanely fast way,
but it also does feel like things went slower back then compared to like reading these lines now.
So yeah, our sense of time is completely warped.
Like you look at a movie like the big short, which is about the fucked up housing market shit, right?
I remember being not, was I adult?
I think I was.
2008?
Yeah, during the housing market crashed all that shit.
and I didn't realize that I was in the lead-up and the fallout of the fucking housing crisis, right?
Mm-hmm.
Right?
Oh, the market crashed crazy.
Like, that's literally all I, like, you know?
But now in the history books, it's like, there's a fucking nice bookend on either end of like, this is when it started.
This is when it started to pop.
That was a crazy, that was a crazy bubble that popped there.
It sure is nice that all the people responsible went to jail.
Yeah, well.
what are you going to do you can't put people with money in jail
what would happen
I don't fucking know
like we would enter a fucking
like we would divide by zero
would we just end
you know it's never done
a black hole is supposed to fucking know
would a black hole spawn in the jail cell
yeah
anyways
um
sure man
but yeah so it's only
it's only subjects that you are particularly deep in on that you can start to you can start to form the beginning and end of the process before the historical event is over, right?
So like we're talking about the AI bubble and we were talking about the AI bubble like I want to say like a year ago, right?
and it was like
But like I remember
the creation of the genesis of the AI bubble
which was actually a bad patch
in World of Warcraft.
Do you remember?
When they used
generated assets?
No, it's when they nerfed Warlock
in World of Warcraft
and the Russian guy
who loved to play Warlock
got so mad about centralized infrastructure
that he invented Bitcoin.
Oh, shit.
Oh.
I remember when that happened.
Wait, is that Satoshi or whatever?
Is that how that happened?
No, yeah, that's the first guy.
I forget his name.
Satoshi Nakamoto or whatever, Ethereum.
No, he's a Russian guy.
No, okay, no, Bitcoin.
Yeah, Bitcoin was Satoshi, but, but yeah.
So that happened.
And then Ethereum becomes a GPU sucking down.
freak bitch. And then using
GPUs for
economic nonsense
starts to go up and then
you go from that to NFTs and then you go
for NFTs to AI because we have all these
fucking generated
farms and blah yada yada yeah yeah
you had to be paying attention at the beginning
to feel the
to feel the time.
Yeah.
It is
it is the case
but you know
also I would say to that
we were made to handle perhaps a couple less dozen historical events per day.
That is the millennial curse.
Right?
So my dad went through some historical events, but they were like relatively few and far between.
Now, for the world that we live in and the problems that it is, I remember talking to my dad about this and he's like, well, at least you're not just afraid of a nuclear.
fucking attack every day
at school. And I'm like, you know what,
Dad? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You fucking got me there? Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, dive under the desk.
Fair enough.
Fair enough, man. That must have
been rough. Any day
now, you know?
I mean, we're kind of
back there for different reasons, but
like just, wow.
And, you know, we have our plague, and
that's not good, but my dad
their generation also had their plague,
which was the polio
and the measles
and the mumps and Rubella.
And I'm glad
those are all gone.
Yeah.
By the way, here's some mercury.
Go have some fun. Go play with it.
See you later, kids.
I got to be honest.
If I didn't,
Mercury looks super fun.
I want to touch it.
No,
No, no, no.
I said that, but I want to touch it.
I remember, dude, okay, I remember watching Hot Shots Part D, where they do the Bloodsport
joke, and they break a fucking mercury thermometer in his hand, and he's like, oh, and I know it's
gallium.
Like, now I know it's gallium, but he's like, and I remember looking at that, go, that looks so
cool.
Would it do that if I broke a thermometer?
Yeah.
Um, you can play with gallium.
Gallium safe.
Okay.
Oh, gallium isn't much better.
Oh, fuck off.
The safe for kids one?
Fuck off.
Yeah.
Love that.
Fuck off.
No.
I just want to play with dangerous chemicals.
Listen, it's totally, the methadone is totally safe.
You should, you should use that, actually.
Just, just, it's not even a switch.
Just start on methadone.
Hey, let me ask you.
way out, way out. We're going way out.
Okay, we're out. Remember in your chemistry class,
your chemistry teacher said,
like literally the first thing going into the lab,
don't drink out of these fucking beakers.
How long did it take?
How long did it take? Because for me,
it was a kid named Michael, and it was literally
within five minutes walking through. Okay, so
drinking water out of a fucking beaker. So David
was like in a special class
and he was joining
in our class, but he was
not actually, like, you was usually, you know, so.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah.
It was one of the, you know, for sure.
Well, that's, okay, no.
Hey, it was literally like, Mike was like, hey, guys, check this out.
And I looked over and I'm like, man, you didn't even rinse that out.
Like, you don't even.
Although, shout out, shoutouts to Mr. Goodman, though, because he's like, today we're
going to be dissecting frogs.
And all the girls would be like, no.
And he'd be like, yeah.
He's totally way, way, way.
weighing it.
I remember having a discussion with my parents because I had really good grades.
And I'm like, if they do the, if they hit me with the frog stuff, I'm not going to do it.
I don't care.
I will, I will get a bad grade.
Yeah.
I do not want to cut a frog apart for kicks.
That just seems horrible.
No.
I don't do that.
He pushed it.
I dissected a cow's eye, but it wasn't attached to the fucking cow.
Yeah.
See, that bugs me more simply because of the idea.
You know?
It's gross.
Yeah, I hate that.
I hate that because I don't like eye stuff.
I feel like I'm like,
well,
that's like makes me think of my eye getting split open.
Well,
that bothers me.
I gotta be blunt.
I don't think anybody,
I think that's,
I think you're describing a human reaction.
Like,
that is definitely not unique to you.
But like,
if you had to pick any other part of the cow,
like,
I'm like,
you pick the one that makes me really.
It'd be the part that's not attached to the alive cow.
Yeah,
that'd be nice.
That'd be nice.
That's the part.
Mm-hmm.
Um,
Oh man.
Somebody says they had to
act an adult cat.
That reminds me
my favorite veterinary school
story.
Okay.
I ran into a friend of mine.
I ran into Christina from high school
and she went to,
she was the girl with a snake
and an iguana.
And she's like,
I'm going to be a fucking veterinarian.
Right?
And guess what?
She was in the good college
for veterinarian school
and she was killing it.
And I ran into her a couple,
couple years later and she's like, I'm almost out of vet school.
And I'm like, cool, what do they got you guys doing?
Like, well, when we first get there, what do you, you know what you got to do?
I'm like, what do you do?
Like, you skin cats.
Oh, my gosh.
And they go, what?
They bring in a truck of euthanized cats and they give you a cat and they go, skin these cats.
And they go, why?
And they go, well, you have to learn, you have to practice how to operate on animals.
Jesus Christ.
And the best way to do that is to just skin a bunch of cats.
And I go, oh, cool.
And she goes, you know what's funny?
And I go, and this is not like, I'm like, she's desensitized.
And that's good because you got to get a vet.
Just kill it inside.
Kill your insides.
But this is not a conversation that I was expecting to hear the phrase, you know, what's funny, though.
And what she says is, you know how they say there's more than one good way to skin a cat?
I go, yeah.
She's like, no, there isn't.
There's one good way.
And I go, cool.
Cool.
Yeah.
Yep. And I'm like, that woman is going to grow up to be an incredible vet.
So I'll tell you what you fucking do. That's horrendous and insane.
But if you find yourself in that environment, you fucking look around you and you see who's enjoying it a little too much.
It was a bus stop at Angry, you know, and there was nobody.
Wait. No, I mean, no, I'm saying in the class, if you're in a class full of, if you're in a room full of people and everybody's
Dissecting cats as you're told to do look for the person who's enjoying that process a little too much
You bag tagging to do the little check you just you just eyeball it yep just just just be like all right
Duly know everybody in here better be soft and dry
Um man I didn't think I was going to say that phrase
Wow as opposed to soft and wet
Um
Tattoo artists have to practice on pigskin
You know.
Yeah, that's, that's about right.
And the really cool tattoo artists just practice on their own fucking leg.
I know a couple.
I know, I know more than one.
Yeah.
No, there's synthetic skin now and stuff.
But, you know, depending on where you come from, like what, like, I was under the impression that synthetic skin was just like, it's nice.
But it's not, no, no, straight up.
No, that's real.
Right.
There are, so there are people who go like, yeah, the fake skin you can get to practice on,
it doesn't have the same texture.
It doesn't heal the same way.
It doesn't land the same way.
It's not going to give you the same sort of vibe.
And furthermore, like I was, you know, one of the art,
the guy who did like my vagabond stuff, like he's from Korea.
And he's like, yeah, we're working on pig skin.
That's what you fucking do.
What do we, what do we spend?
Because people are just kind of piggy.
Who's oink oink?
Thank you.
And flashwise, anyway.
Thank you tattoo artist Luca Blight.
Anyways, all right.
I think we got that.
And one more interesting one here.
Dear Patron 3,000 in Willsworth.
What's up, man?
Mr. Jones says,
I enjoyed listening to your recent conversation about Act 3 of Silk Song
and how the game, if it was created prior to the advent of the internet,
that we know today would have been a journey of discovery for many people,
finding that experience is part of what makes it fun.
I started thinking about how these natural experiences in older gamers occur
and remember having games,
I remember that these experiences are no longer present in games,
mostly due to modern YouTube touch creators and so on.
I say this with no hate.
In my opinion,
what makes the loss of discovery in games worse is the tutorialization of games.
Most players won't care about this if they only play single player games,
but as somebody who loves to play tanks in everything multiplayer,
especially MMOs,
trying to do a dungeon run for the first time,
failing, learning, and then doing it right,
while being the wall upon all must break. Upon which all must break.
For your team feels great and is a ton of fun. It's an experience that isn't replicated in anything else.
I recently started playing a game that launched an early access called Fellowship.
It's essentially a casual bite-sized memo experience where you run dungeons repeatedly.
And I had a lot of fun the first few days of it being out, learning with the community.
But within a week, there were already guides and tutorials being made for each dungeon character, etc.
and with them, the inevitable person who tells you,
you should have watched a tutorial beforehand.
Maybe I'm just an old head,
but I find that readily available guides and tutorials for everything
have made the MMO community and other multiplayer communities
much more toxic than they were.
Optimization is great, but having fun and playing the game cooperatively
should always come first.
We'd love to hear your thoughts.
All right, so if you want to see a really wildly detailed breakdown of this topic,
You can go down to folding ideas and watch a video that's about a 90 minutes long called Why It's Rude to Suck at Warcraft in which they discuss the mentality and design that goes into the exact thing that he's talking about.
Shout out, Matt and Dan Olson.
There's massive confirmation bias going on here.
So Mr. Jones forgets what.
what it's like to play a game in which all information is hoarded by players and there's nothing
in the game to actually help you and those players will lord that information over you.
Because he describes like learning to be a really good tank and what I remember is games in which
there's nothing to help people learn to be a good tank
and people who have no information given to them
won't learn anything and therefore
just stay shit forever
and one of the things like World of Warcraft is a really good example
World of Warcraft classic
right now is a completely solved game
and part of that solved gameness
is the fact that it was actually really easy
because nothing in the game taught you anything.
Like, the actual listed internal mechanics
of how things happened and worked in World of Warcraft
are pretty simple, pretty simple
because nobody knew how anything worked.
Now that Wow Classic is completely solved,
it's a whole different fucking thing
and it's all about speed running now
because it's solved.
I feel kind of,
lucky that I have a real outsider's vibe of like the type of specific co-op toxicity that comes
from these types of genres because like from the outside the way you describe the shit it sounds
like miserable sometimes and like I know the highs must be like super worth it to fucking
when you're coordinating with everybody and it's amazing but like yeah those are shit oh my god it sounds so
miserable to me.
And like,
I don't,
yeah,
I'm just,
I'm just like,
the idea of the,
the,
like,
getting off the game
and feeling like
my night was ruined
because just
a screaming match
with somebody,
you know,
online trying to play
and I have to listen
to them in my ear,
screaming about what I'm not
doing properly or whatever.
It just sounds like,
I don't want,
I don't want to play.
I just don't want to play.
League of Legends.
League of Legends is maybe
the most
nefarious evil invention created by scientists to harm you because there's a really fun game inside
League of Legends and you start League of Legends and League of Legends gives you a tutorial and it teaches
you how to control your guy and what items do and how you use your skills and it'll even tell you
how uh what lanes you can go down and you do the tutorial and you play a couple bot games and then
you load up into a regular match
and you
you will walk out the door
and without fail
the first time you
leave Spawn one of
your teammates will say
the most out of pocket
meanest shit
you have ever seen in
your life to you
because you somehow fucked it
somehow
you just walked out the front door and you
fucked it the match might as well be lost
at this point.
And now you have to play with them for 35 fucking more minutes.
It's crazy.
It's unbelievable.
It is created by an evil scientist.
So what you did, I remember when you were describing this process and how horrendous it can be and that it culminates in a point where the screaming asshole just stops screaming and just starts feeding.
It just says, you know what?
No.
I'm going to spend my night
making you upset
so that we all lose.
It's crazy.
You need
you need to get into
some kind of toxic co-
You need this
this core experience.
Yeah, I mean like, you know,
a little bit of like online
fucking whatever,
Overwatch, random Q,
fucking apex and Titanfall
existed.
You did get a piece of it.
because if you even played one solo cue match of Apex
and both your dudes just been fucking
splitzies and you just went you
fucking motherfuckers
that's that's that's a piece of it yeah
I random queued up with a duo that was cussing me
the fuck out in Spanish they were so mad
they were so mad
this duo was not having it bro
and I could not understand what they were saying
but it was it was not nice.
Oh, I love that.
The, the, the sounds I heard were not nice sounds.
There's something like really wild about like doing really poorly and like league and then
people start like begging you for money in Portuguese.
And you're like, what the fuck?
Yeah.
How could I, if I even wanted to send you the money, I don't know how you're saying it.
Good stuff.
Good, good, good question.
I like that.
Or observation for that matter.
And there's no putting the genie back in the bottle.
Like, you, it's, that's what it.
that's where we live now, you know?
No, I'm of the opinion that large-scale information availability is absolutely a better way
because more people actually get to play the game as intended.
I play, when you boot games up, ever since I remember, like, cell phone games that were like,
hey, this game is better with headphones.
When you play super hexagon, you might enjoy this better if you put headphones on.
The sounds are really cool.
And now you get that with some games where they'll be like, yeah, put the headphones on
or, you know, real yak-as-play with a game pad, whatever the fuck.
I would not be surprised if, like, some sort of message was kind of like,
hey, this was meant to be played without the internet telling you everything about it.
You can do that if you want, but for maximum enjoyment, don't go to Fextra life.
So I've got an MMO example that I think covers all three bases that we have going on here.
So we can talk about Final Fantasy 11 and Final Fantasy 14.
So in both of those games, there are unique monsters that you can, that will pop up and spawn at,
are on certain timers and you can kill them for valuable rewards, right?
So a friend of the show won Max a Million dude made his bones in Final Fantasy 11 by just
learning and knowing where all the good shit spawn and on what timer and when and how to beat them
efficiently.
And so he was able to just go out and be like, this guy's going to pop.
I'm going to go get them with some people and I'm working to get good stuff and all this
stuff.
And yeah, I think, yeah, he was playing a chat.
Oh, my God.
Because he's crazy, right?
Wow.
And that represented a really incredibly cool experience for Max.
Yeah.
Right?
That's Beast.
For most people on his server that represented, what the fuck?
How this guy just the, the monsters, he's never up.
The monster's never up.
I just go.
It's supposed to be a monster here that I can kill for rewards.
and some guy just swoops in and kills him and he's gone.
What the fuck?
How does he always do it?
That's what most experience.
In the Final Fantasy 14 version, you have hunts that are somewhat similar.
And the community decided to run link shells, which is like an in-game Discord.
And then they ran discords.
And now they have scouts who troll server locations.
to see the hunts. They ping them. There are now apps that will ping them. They will feed into a centralized
database. There is a website that you can go to that has a timer that people manage that rolls it up.
And so if you're in a hunt discord, you will get a ping on your server when you join up and it will ping you and go,
hey, there's a hunt train starting in 10 minutes. And everybody who wants to go there creates a party and party finder joins up,
joins up with the thing
gets ready
runs every zone in the expansion
in a 55 minute period
kills every single hunt gets all the rewards
and then they'll cycle 36 hours later
or whatever the fuck it is
yeah and that is that is the new version
now that is actually available
to lots more people
than the first one was but it's not nearly as romantic
because it's automated
like people are just automating the thing
so now that we're in this world
the best thing that you should probably do is just have the game tell you when these things fucking spawn
so that all players can go and get them instead of the people who are freakass enough
to hang out in this degenerate discord like me.
I mean, as far as single player experiences go, we live in a world where watch for rolling rocks exists.
Yeah.
Okay.
Skipping dimensions into parallel realities in Mario 64.
via a series of very, very, very specific jumps
is a thing that people figured out and do.
Like, watch any years, AGDQ or whatever.
I feel like the idea of just, like, shared information
being out there in this way is like,
you can, yeah, I said it with Silk Song.
Anyways, you can choose as a creator
to make your game and pretend that it'll be playable offline
in a cabin in the woods if you want to.
But it works a lot better for single player stuff.
At the, yes, yes.
But like just straight up telling the player this is how it's intended to be played, I think would be a reasonable thing to do at some point.
Yeah.
So like basically my point is that if you have a community, particularly for a multiplayer game, that is going to data mine automate, you know, streamline the shit for the people who are into it, you've now just created a two-tier system of people who are just playing the game and people who are.
have the information and those data.
And if you've already hit that point, you can either make it totally inscrutable and impossible to figure out or just make it clear and understandable to everybody else.
Right.
Those are your two main paths.
I think that awkward middle of having people who are dissecting every piece of it via technology to get advantages over a part of the community is like a weird unhealthy middle that I don't think.
think most games should have.
So I will say that there is something cool about that first era souls thing where there's a bit
of an ARG happening, you know, almost with lore online and people are like, oh my God, a video
about this character's item description.
And did you know that maybe they can survive?
Like there's a little bit of that where like there's a sense of like, I imagine people
discovering things together and sharing lore about here's how you actually make Saler survive, you know.
There's an excitement around that.
limited version of this, right?
You know who I believe is ultimately at fault for this problem?
It's you and me.
Uh-huh.
The proliferation of easy video has destroyed the ability for people to just lie like crazy
and say you can bring Ereth back to life.
Okay.
The mystery of whether or not the person telling you is telling the truth,
and you having to go figure it out
is gone because you can just
type in Dark Souls 3
how to get Henri Wedding
and a million
fucking videos will pop up
to show you exactly how
there will never be a single person
who fights the Iron Golem without
Tarkas ever again
unlikely well actually never use
him myself but it'll but just like that
there will never be an honest
fight against the Iron Golem ever
it's all just a Tarkas bit
forever permanently yeah all right we're part of the fucking problem yeah but you know what though
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I know what that means now
I know what that means that I don't like it
But you should have gotten an alert
That the woolly wolves in the lab is shipping now
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