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Episode Date: January 11, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:39 Hey. How are you doing, man? Doing all right. What's that behind you on your right? Oh, the camera moved over a little bit. It's just that's... Oh, okay. I was like, oh, right.
Starting point is 00:00:51 It's the lighting rig and the TV and the camera thing. It's just everything shifted a little bit over whatever. Oh, okay. I was getting underneath everything under there. Are you some kind of clown reference this week that I don't get? Are you... Oh, maybe. Maybe I am.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Maybe I am. Is that another horror movie that I didn't watch? Is this Pennywise? I don't know. I don't watch a lot of horror movies. So I don't know. Could you have, bro,
Starting point is 00:01:25 me and Paige were talking about it. She's doing it up and she's doing it up. And she's like, what are the fucking odds? This week is the only week of five that he does not say the word juggalo. Yeah, I think Paige killed it on this one. I think this is by far the best one.
Starting point is 00:01:43 You are ready for the gathering. Absolutely. The only thing is, you're also ready for face scan technology. No one can stop me if I commit a crime. No one can see my face. Which to anyone who's a little late to the party and doesn't recall the last time it came up,
Starting point is 00:02:01 juggalo makeup is uniquely perfect for the future of face capture and face recognition. It's so weird. The machines can't tell where your eyes and features are. It just screws up every line on the face that you would lock on to. Which to be per-like, that's a perfect makeup to start rocking these days. Absolutely. I think you, I don't know, though, if when it comes to the gathering,
Starting point is 00:02:30 is there a feeling about, like, doing the specific Violent J or the specific, you know, like are you are you supposed to like not go for the big two are you supposed to do your originally i don't know because i want you if you look up like juggalo makeup like most non-violent jay and shaggy too dope juggalo makeup is fucking terrible it's it's literally just like they do it's white paint and just like some fucking black squares and what like just because they're drunk when they when they put it on and they smear and they do all these things that are like, you know, getting a little, yeah, customizing the OC, you know.
Starting point is 00:03:12 That being said, like, this is pretty close. This is close enough to Halloween that I can just, like, this could be a Halloween costume. I also have like a somewhat similar head shape to one violent Jay. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. But you could also rock it outside normally and depending on where and how, because it, we are now years beyond, but still, there was a time when wearing. juggalo makeup in day-to-day life was a thing.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Yeah, I guess it was. Right? There was an era where that was quite common. You know, and sometimes you'd go for like the low effort, for example, you'd be like, I'll just put on the black parts today and not the white, you know? I don't think I should do that. Well, yes. Twitch.
Starting point is 00:03:58 I don't think I should do that. Yes. And we had a very scary moment when we were looking up the thing. And we were like, oh, wow. the lips are out and then we just sat there for a couple of minutes going hmm no it's fine it's my real
Starting point is 00:04:15 lip it's my real lips it's okay so you know there was a there was a classic slop stream bit where we saw someone preparing their makeup and they put a base of black and then started again then you know sculpted over that to make a full piece
Starting point is 00:04:33 and as Reggie pointed out he's like from now on, I'll just ask, are you done? Are you, is your costume, did you finish? Are there extra steps that we're in the middle of right now? So there was, there was a moment where Paige was threatening to send you of a picture of a bottle of soup polish. And tell you, Pat really wants to use this one. I don't know how to convince him otherwise. Yeah, you know, I mean, of all, like you go to the pharmacy.
Starting point is 00:05:06 and you go to all their different options. And for some reason, after all these years, a good old shoe polish can is still the recommended way to treat your skin. I saw a TikTok skit about this and I need your expertise because you are the expert. Now, now. On Blackface in this room, this digital room. I saw a real argument as to whether or not you could go to a Halloween, party as a white guy as
Starting point is 00:05:38 Justin Trudeau in Blackface if you did the jeans and the knees. Okay okay hold on I was about to like go because they're playing a white person okay hold on I was about to seriously go
Starting point is 00:05:58 do you not remember the bit that we did here about exactly that we've ever done okay well is that a bit that we've done the one that popped off on Tumblr where I'm making the devil's bargain. You should really do it. Yeah, no, I remember. Yes. Of course I remember. You should do it. That's where we were arguing about whether or not you should get a cop of gun, right?
Starting point is 00:06:20 And and so on. Exactly. Yes. No, don't do it. Yes, that one. That was that like extrapolating it out to of like, should you grab the cop's gun or not? Me when I see a cop's gun. Yes. No. But the original email was somebody asking about whether or not it was okay to wear. Oh, was that the original? To wear just Trudeau to a Halloween party. And I, and, you know, I maintain that Halloween parties are extra high alert for this type of buffoonery. Extra high alert, because this is where the people that are the most full of shit think they can get away with it the hardest. So, like, the, we're, everyone is on, you know, the, the, the, the scanning is extra, extra sensitive, right? we we we turn up the dial for sensitivity a little bit during that exact 24 hour period
Starting point is 00:07:15 thus yes you should do it I still I do encourage you to do it um I see it'll go over extra well on Halloween the time when people have made the least amount of blunders uh concerning all of this that's good stuff um yeah I mean it is it is always it is always like there's always that step where it's like, hey, you can just put the clothes on and do that and let the shoe polish be implied. And have your, have your girlfriend come as Katie Perry. Yeah. No, let the shoe polish be implied, right?
Starting point is 00:07:53 That's the other way to do it is. Or just have it on your person. Don't, don't use it. Just be like, hold on this. We're later. Now we're thinking postmodern. All right, yeah. Now we're that's it.
Starting point is 00:08:04 We're just holding on to that. Katie doesn't like me to use the shoe polish anymore. Strong. That's the strength of the bit right there. That's powerful. Yeah. How was your Halloween? You know, it was cool.
Starting point is 00:08:22 We got her into a little pumpkin dress. Hell yeah. We got a nice smile going. I, Halloween with a baby is so weird because you just put the baby in a copy. costume and then you're like, well, yeah. No. Maybe you can't appreciate Halloween.
Starting point is 00:08:40 And you don't want to show them a skeleton or whatever. They'll freak out. I sent it to page. I don't know if you saw it, but we got our best smile yet. Oh, yeah. Look at this fucking thing. Look at this. I will. It's absolutely.
Starting point is 00:08:55 It's criminal. I don't know where this is going. I don't know what device I should be looking at. Oh, wow. That's good. Look at that. The best smile yet. That's a cute baby.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Yeah. Thank you. So that is, that's basically, that was a deal. She has a lot of hair. It's crazy. It's an insane amount. Oh, yeah, yeah. She came out with a full head and it's been going nuts ever since.
Starting point is 00:09:23 There's no controlling it. It's humongous, huge hair, big hair going. And, yeah, no. And then got, you know, got the candy out and Punch Mom sat by the door. And we got a couple people coming through. but oh really? Oh cool. Not that many. So that means a ton of leftovers of, I'm going to be fucking munching on these for
Starting point is 00:09:45 for days. So that's good. That's awesome, man. Yep. My diabetes loves it. That's good. That's good for me. No, that was, that was pretty much the deal. Not nothing, nothing super eventful beyond that. I, I don't know if like, have you, have y'all started how, elaborate are you getting with the outfits?
Starting point is 00:10:10 Okay. So, so. Because we had a very real concern about like, this is a nice little pumpkin dress. It would suck to get big milk stains on it. You know, but that's a real concern. And, yeah,
Starting point is 00:10:26 how do you approach the, you know, the elaborate outfit to like, so I got, so this is how I hit played out, right? So we looked at the little man and little man's talking now. he's talking like a lot. Like he's like a small individual now.
Starting point is 00:10:44 And so like, all right, man. What do you want to be for Halloween? Do you want to be? And we, you know, we listed off like, you know, a million different things. And going back three months, he says, a ghost.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Like clear his day. And then I'm like, oh, you want to be a ghost? And you go boo. He would say boo with his cute little baby voice. So, all right. ghosts. Okay, what do you want mommy into a ghost? A ghost.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Yeah, just like yeah, like rocks all day, every day, everybody. Yeah. So rock solid on everyone's ghosts. So what do we do? We get them a cute little onesie ghost costume with, you know, scary ghost face on the chest. And me and Paige get full on ghost costumes, like with
Starting point is 00:11:32 the giant sheets with the, the eye holes and the, you know, the woo. And so it all comes in round at the top. Yes, yes, we checked. We checked. We were if, yeah. And then, so Halloween morning,
Starting point is 00:11:48 we're like, all right, little man, do you want to be a ghost? No. And me and age just went, what? Oh. And he goes,
Starting point is 00:12:11 no, no. Too bad. Oh, no. And you're both just standing there, like gobsmacked and then we're just like no fuck it and so we dressed them up as the ghost yeah you're a ghost
Starting point is 00:12:28 he went boo oh man the whims oh man the whims of Tuesday because there was a like there's the moment where I was like so afraid that we're going to be like putting him into the costume and he's not going to
Starting point is 00:12:45 go for he's just going to freak out I'm like oh congratulations And that, of course, we had plans to go trick-or-treating because he's old enough to walk around and go trick-or-treating. And then it rained like fucking crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what we ended up doing is we ended up going to our local library and they had like a little event set up, you know, like a little fake little trick-or-treat thing and some saying some songs for the children. And so we got there. And the plan was that we had the, our costumes in the car, right?
Starting point is 00:13:19 and then we're going to go put them on do the trick-or-treaty thing. And me and Paige showed up and we ran into like a really strange scenario. And the scenario was that not a single child, and we saw like 100, right, was dressed up as anything scary. All the two to four-year-olds exclusively
Starting point is 00:13:41 were knights and dragons and princesses and cops and cows and cows, And like not a one ghost, not a vampire, not a single monster. And me and Paige had full body, full covered sheets to wear. And all the parents were either not dressed at all or like princesses or whatever. And we were just like, if we put these on, we are going to terrify like most of these children. So Paige and I ended up going costumless. We we dressed up as
Starting point is 00:14:20 Mom and Dad for Halloween and the little guy had a great time and it has unlocked the new phase of our child's life which is I just got a text message which was we're leaving the house
Starting point is 00:14:41 and he wants his costume Why does Halloween have to be over? while he really, really likes wearing his ghost costume. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And the weather is colder now, and the ghost costume was specifically built for like late fall because it's nice and warm. Oh, there you go. So we're probably going to be rolling around a little ghost for the next couple of months. Let's see. That's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:15:08 And also, he really sells it because people go, oh, what are you dressed up as? He goes a ghost. And then he covers his eyes and goes, boo. And everybody loves it. So who are we to argue? Who are we to argue? You can't take that away. No, the only thing, I'm just like, what always sucks, whatever it rains on Halloween, is the whole like, okay, well, trick or treat, I'm wearing a giant thick, goose down jacket, but underneath it, I have a pretty sick costume.
Starting point is 00:15:35 You can sort of see the parts sticking out of it, you know? But, yeah, like, what are you going to do about bad weather, you know? Nice to have the alternative. Well, Halloween is, like, specifically in the baddest weather period of the internet. entire year. Like, like that's terrible. But also,
Starting point is 00:15:51 I don't know about you, but when I was a little baby child, like, yeah, no, it was either throw a raincoat on or a big old jacket. Fuck it.
Starting point is 00:15:59 I don't give a shit. But we didn't plan for like a heavy downpour. We planned for cold weather. Oh yeah. Right? And the other thing is that as a two-year-old, he can't really hold an umbrella.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Right? It's just not a viable option. I've talked about it before, but the, um, the, for at least over here, the November 1st slash October 31st was typically when, uh, we, after El Nino happened, I want to say, was when we saw like, the first snowfall would, would be right around there, you know? Yeah. Um, yeah, I'm sure you and I have both done Halloween. with snow on the ground.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Yeah. That has, that has started to change, you know, and, and, and whatnot. But I just,
Starting point is 00:16:51 I remember specifically, we had El Nino, and then it was like, after this point, Halloween is the marker for when you can expect snow to begin right afterwards. Um, and that's not fun.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Is a, is going around doing that or so. Um, but my entire, um, well, anyway, my entire Halloween,
Starting point is 00:17:11 uh, a, fucking memory thing is most, adulthood because obviously obviously you know the devil's holiday indeed when we were I got to say though we were taken to be fair it is like overtly the devil's holiday like no you know and we were shown the VHS tape about the group that takes kids into the woods and sacrifices one you know and that's what the true that's the that's the The true meaning of Halloween is these cults and paganists and Satanists are sacrificing children, you know, which turned out to not be far from the truth.
Starting point is 00:17:56 And we were also then shown by the same company a, here's why Christmas is bad VHS tape as well, you know. Bro! Come on! Yeah, that was a real one, you know. St. Nick, an old Nick are referring to the same Nick. after all. No, St. Nicholas is an
Starting point is 00:18:17 actual real thing. Nah, no, old Nick, the other name for the devil. Don't worry about it. Um,
Starting point is 00:18:23 and don't get me started on crampus, you know? I mean, crampus is like the devil, like, like, like for real, but Swedish,
Starting point is 00:18:31 right? Scandy. Yeah, something to that effect in, in general. Um, you know, so all,
Starting point is 00:18:39 anyway, there, and I do remember there was at least a, um, a couple years of, okay, we can't stop them. So let's just have like, you know, like Bible candy night. Okay. And you come here and we'll play games and sing songs and have a little, little study. And then also you get candy. I mean, that, that actually sounds like a way better
Starting point is 00:19:05 like bitch than the alternate. That's what I was like, you are bribing correctly. Like at the, like I didn't get that as a kid, right? I'll also get candy and my soul will, be good. You know what? That out. All right. Maybe. Maybe. It took years for them to figure that out. That being said, I don't think, I don't know that they continued. I think it lasted maybe two, three years and then just stopped because, you know, the people These kids are still playing Dungeons and Dragons. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:19:28 You can't stop them, you know. But they should make a biblical Dungeons and Dragons. I mean about, about whatever and then like pitch it. And I bet I would play a game of that. Fuck it. I mean, I bet you there. is a tabletop on that basis. Like I wouldn't be surprised if left behind
Starting point is 00:19:48 didn't make some sort of game that was like a tabletop version of it that was playable some way. Oh, that is what that's about. I've never seen a single thing of left behind. But as soon as you said it in this conference. Oh, they're about the Raptor, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:20:04 Yeah. That's it. Oh. You know. And it would take way less work to do that than to fucking edit Wolfenstein to be. a super noahs arc game
Starting point is 00:20:16 which they did for the super nintendo supposedly that was like okay uh I don't know I mean I didn't never gave it more than a couple seconds but I don't think it was as good as ironically enough the Checks Quest game which apparently was like pretty good
Starting point is 00:20:32 well I'm just my QA brain wants to go and see like could you how well could you have edited this because can there be some way where if I scrape enough against the system you can eventually find a way to turn these, these, uh, llamas or these giraffe back into a super Nazi. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Maybe. And then have two of them on the arc that explode. Like, there might be a way. I'm, we know the code is in there. I don't know if all the sprites got covered. A sequence of events and Noah's head explodes. That's what I'm saying. In a biocomando.
Starting point is 00:21:05 You know, fucking turn the little portrait of Noah into BJ down in the quarter all for like two seconds. That's good. Um, yeah. Anyways. Halloween's awesome. It's going to be awesome every year. Until they want to go out with their friends.
Starting point is 00:21:24 No, dad. I want to go with my friends. Gonna drink in the park. What Halloween becomes the party night. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Um,
Starting point is 00:21:35 anyway. I, yeah. Let me just. I, I'm like, there was, friends in early high in high school with like costumes that would people come to school with
Starting point is 00:21:51 and I were like, where are we going with this like? I don't want it's weird when someone comes to. Don't. Yeah, you're right. All right. We're just going. Where are you going? No, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:22:07 I want to go there. Let's go there. Let's go there. Your level of uncomfortability is making me excited. Because you thought about what your problems were going to be. And I'm like, what are my problems going to be? And I was like, oh, well, let me think of how things were in high school. And I was like, oh, you're right.
Starting point is 00:22:22 There's like, there's astronaut. And then there's sexy astronaut. And then there's baby. And then there's sexy baby. And it's just like, can we not? I don't like that one. Can we just stop? Can we not do that?
Starting point is 00:22:33 That's horrible. Can we please quit? You know, we don't need that in brackets after every potential outfit. And can I say, can I say some outrageously out of touch boomer shit about the kids? can I go for it? I walked by I walked by my local school and I saw a bunch of kids
Starting point is 00:22:54 on Halloween dressed up in a way that I was like that's a cool costume so what they were is they went to school and they were just
Starting point is 00:23:04 in their fucking pajamas and I was like oh you guys are dressed up as kids whose parents don't respect them because they let you go to school wearing your fucking pajamas and look like a buffoon.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Right, right. Okay. Look, you know, um, so it was a, it was, I would say that over the years, it was seeing people do the pajama look with the big, with the big, uh, sleeper bed or or, or with the big, a, um, pillow or whatever, nighty, et cetera. Sure. Do your thing.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Low effort. Yes. Do your, whatever. Um, but, um, so by the way, I want to clarify, I'm not talking about pajama day. I'm actually just mocking. the parents that just let their kids go to school with pajamas all the time. I remember the first time I saw someone in one of those like, I am,
Starting point is 00:23:55 your outfit looks like somebody carrying something else. Like, you know, an alien is kidnapping you. So like your body. Yeah. The first time I saw that, it blew my mind.
Starting point is 00:24:05 I was like, what is happening? It was crazy, you know? And now, now more common. But like, that thing.
Starting point is 00:24:15 and the horrible one that is putting the giant spider outfit on your dog. Yeah. That's the worst. He's already got spider legs. That is so mean. That is horrifying. And the legs bounce up and down as they walk. And they don't know why everybody all of a sudden is terrified of them.
Starting point is 00:24:36 It's really scary. It's a really genuinely scary costume because there's a certain distance in which it all just blends together in too many legs and too big. And the distance is like not that far away. It's like 20 feet that your brain just hijacks your limbic system and goes, ah! I just, oh, it's a dog.
Starting point is 00:24:58 It's a dog in a costume. But just think about what that dog is going through for one day, not understanding why everyone is horrified. Maybe they feel really tough and cool. Yeah. It's bad. It's bad. How is your week?
Starting point is 00:25:17 Terrible. Overall, my internet problems continue. Sick. Hey, so, so, what else, what else was going on? The internet's still fucked up.
Starting point is 00:25:28 That's, that's just what's going on. My internet is inconsistent. And I had to call a technician again. And of course, here's my favorite part. So I had a sponsor stream on Halloween. And the sponsor stream only had to be an hour long. And because of my internet issues, I technically streamed that game from 2 p.m. to almost 8.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Okay. Because my sponsor wanted an hour. And that's how long it took to get them one hour. Damn. Okay. And it had to be on Halloween. So like, you can imagine how frustrating that was. What are the, what's the play?
Starting point is 00:26:14 in like recording an offline stream and then playing that. No. I know. I know. It's like this person's contract. I'm aware. You can't do it. I can't do that.
Starting point is 00:26:30 That's not what we're looking for. So yeah, no, I've had a rough couple of days doing that. On the plus side, I've gotten to know my teammates in the box sham slam considerably better. Let's go. So, yo, how's cloud 805 doing?
Starting point is 00:26:48 How's that? Cloud 805, in addition to being a really chill and nice guy, is a really great coach. Fuck yeah. Is just really, really good at, like, zoning in on what you can improve today. Nice. Right? Like, because, you know, you'll, like, you know, I'm playing Timo. that Timo is the character I'm going to be bringing into the slam.
Starting point is 00:27:15 And it's like, can I be doing like mushroom loops? Yes. Am I going to learn how to do mushroom loops consistent in like three days? No. No, I'm not. Right. So let's let's focus on this corner carry. Let's focus on communication with my teammates on tagging.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Let's focus on how to abuse Timo super tag nonsense. Let's do that. combo where Timo super tags and Yasmo just does that slash like four times in a row. You know, stuff like that. Like easy stuff that makes a big difference. Also, um, on seeds, uh, four and three, there's Shumimi and, uh, Shimada, Shumata, Shimada, Shemada, who I got to know as a result of this. They're super chill.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Uh, cool to, cool to see Shemada actually be a fan of this program. Yay. Uh, that's always a good start when she was. training. They were like they're calling it Dojo Super Beast was her stream title. Nice. Like this fucking yes. Good good good good. Um, they have improved
Starting point is 00:28:22 by multiple orders of magnitude. Yeah. Like Cloud and I heart justice, Javi, have like dragged the three of us like two seed placements up from where we started.
Starting point is 00:28:38 I, I filled out my form as Emerald One. I am now Diamond 3. There you go. There you go. Yeah. Of playing with these people. It's so interesting how like sometimes it's just like, okay, your game plan is fine.
Starting point is 00:28:55 You just need to be aware of what's happening to you, you know? Sometimes it's like, or just like a little piece of information here or there to just kind of slightly correct what you've got. And you don't overwhelm. You don't put too much on the plate. You just keep it where it's already at with your knowledge. but just a couple of steering, you know, a good coach will steer you just right where you are at your speed.
Starting point is 00:29:18 That's great. It's the most important thing is like, because I've been coached by various things in various parts of my life. And oftentimes I feel like I've gotten the advice of like, here's this really hard thing to do now. And I'm like, that will take me a really long time to learn. Whereas opposed like,
Starting point is 00:29:34 I could learn like this small thing and this small thing and this small thing that I could do today. Yeah. And it would matter today. And Cloud is a like, you know, hyper fighting game specialist, right? Like, so that's, that is definitely the right person as well, which is you've got your, your fundamentals in, you know, classic streetfire.
Starting point is 00:29:57 How a fighting game works. Yeah. I know how to fighting game works. You know, but he's coming in with the Marvel and DBFZ info and strive and shit like that, you know, so, yeah, that's, that's perfect. During the box jam slam yesterday. I wasn't streaming because I've actually been running a Twitch inspector stream for 48 hours now. Oh shit.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Okay. Yeah. Because, of course, now that the technician is coming to my house in a couple of days, now my internet has no problems. So they're going to get to come here and be like, seems fine to me. And I'm like, but when you fucking leave, it will break. And I'm actually having to, I am also charting the weather. because I have a sneaking suspicion that when it rains,
Starting point is 00:30:44 the internet goes out, which means there's a problem in the wire somewhere on the system. Okay, okay. So I'm doing a lot. But regardless, back to the slam, got to play some of the other teams for the first time.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Exhibition still, because the official matches start tomorrow. It's just getting to know people, you know, get some practice around. So what's the feel on saving that shit for national? versus showing your cards. So nobody's saving anything for anything.
Starting point is 00:31:14 We're just having fun. We're playing. In fact. Yeah. In fact, I got to tell you, have you ever, have you ever been part of a group? And you realize that your personality is the only
Starting point is 00:31:26 personality like it in like the whole room? Yeah. Yeah. So like we're doing practicing. And like, I think I was playing a match with Huntress and her partner.
Starting point is 00:31:37 And Huntress is a V-Tuber. She's in my team. seed. So I will be going up against her at some point. And we were playing. It was me and Shumimi Me versus Huntress and I forget who it was. But they were like, oh my God. Oh, I didn't know you could block that. And I'm just like,
Starting point is 00:31:52 oh, you can't. No, you can't. You shouldn't even try. You should like in fact, in fact, it's actually there's no setup you can do it. And I can hear like some of the other people laughing, but like, what, bro? It's like, no, just lie. Just lie like crazy. Yeah. Just just lie like
Starting point is 00:32:07 constantly. K7 came in and him and clouds are talking about how Timo's probably top one. And my voice comes out, go, nah, he's, he's bad. He's actually like really undertuned. Well, really,
Starting point is 00:32:23 really undertuning. He's probably the worst character in the game. And it's just like talking to people about FF14. All you have to do is say the best character is undertuned and people just short circuit. Like, go, what?
Starting point is 00:32:38 Because, okay, down players. are a humongous problem in every game, right? Now players are heroes. It's fucking crazy. They're there to keep everybody else honest. It's where the term he needs it comes from, right? No, I think there's a phrase going around.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Sejian was saying that like, do you know somebody really hates Yasuo? When they type in the chat, Yasuo's offense is just too honest. just so yeah now the thing is Timo is definitely shaping up to be way more incredible than we thought which is and we already thought he was strong
Starting point is 00:33:22 and again hey look the Marlon Pye characters are fucking dominating how about that how about that Marlon right but he really did over tune those two like crazy but like you wouldn't when it takes a second to figure it out with Timo right but then you see examples. And so one, like a bunch of crazy fighting game shit happened this weekend, but like
Starting point is 00:33:45 at DreamHack Atlanta. I saw the Echo one. Sonic Fox versus Leffin, right? And what? Incredible comeback. Oh, wow. The match was so insane. But like what you got to see there is straight up round start,
Starting point is 00:33:59 call and assist, and then Timo blows the blowdarts. And then you just, while the blowdarts are out, do stuff. Just start your neck. Unmolested. Just do stuff. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:34:09 It was the first thing Cloud taught us how to do. It's so strong. It's the first thing. And yeah. And so it's really just like you see shit like that and like that, I mean, crazy, crazy grad finals there. But like you get to see what he's good at, right? Running from halfway across the screen to get a little pickup after the throw with the net,
Starting point is 00:34:30 you know? Yeah. Just like a little, little things like that that are like, okay, he's not top in the same ways that like Echo and Yasuo are where they're able to just dominate with their full tools. But if you play him the right way and with the right fuse, you know, it's very impressive. It's fucking super hard. And also like some of his best stuff is totally brain dead.
Starting point is 00:34:53 I like super tagging to cover the whole screen with is is like free. I saw at one point during that grand finals, I saw he did the Pogo stick overhead like a millimeter off the ground, it made no sense. It was like, this is an overhead. And if your timing's good, you can turn that into like dropping your body into just instant overheading into a combo. I mean, like instant overhead is supposed to be like, okay, they jump a certain height and then you see they get tagged, you know, on the way up.
Starting point is 00:35:25 And he can float his parachute down and then do a little, like, it's so crazy, you know, anyway. I'll say, like in terms of saving it for nationals, I, uh, I can't believe. how effective his parachute is against everyone around my skill level. Just go for a jump in and then just stop. And then they whiff their anti-air and then just fall down and hit them and just start the whole the whole show. So the reason why like for dive kicks, for example, are so good. And why there's a whole game built around the joke of them being that good is because one of the first things that happens in fighting games in general is your brain gets used to the power.
Starting point is 00:36:07 arc of a jump. And so when you see, you go, what goes up must come down? And then you get used to the timing of like, so he's on the way up. Yeah, you internalize it. Now your brain goes and sure you can, right? They jump up and flash kick. You get, you just, that's a part of your part rhythm as you play. And then you go jump up and nope.
Starting point is 00:36:28 And you're like, ah, you know? And like even when they know it's coming, you're still conditioned to have your first reflex be anti-air. No wait. It's really hard. It's hard to do. And that little no weight is just enough of a hiccup in the in the flow chart to be like, ah, fuck, what am I doing?
Starting point is 00:36:45 And then you got them, you know? It's so strong to do anything in midair that changes your jump arc or slows you down or the parabola, you know? So in terms of a saving and shit for nationals, I got to play one Peter Park and unruly with Shumimi me and myself, which is a match. that will happen at a later date. Oh shit. It was very even. It was very even. And it was, if I can say, it was a combination of two different types of training.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Who's coaching Kenny? K7. Show off. Yeah. Okay. Though they only met for the first time yesterday. Because they've been very busy. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:32 But it was very, very interesting because it was a completely different style. of training and what they've been, what everybody's been focusing on and it was fascinating. So Cloud has been focusing on all of our fundamentals, right? Everybody needs a combo they can do every time. Here's a little trick. Here's a little trick. Here's a little thing to do in neutral. Here's how to react to this.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Here's how to tag to this. Like basics. Yeah. Right. Meanwhile, we played with Peter and Kenny and their basics were not quite as tight. but what they did have is the most disgusting aggressive mix up plan possible.
Starting point is 00:38:12 They're running two times assist. Yeah, okay. And when Peter's coming in as Warwick allow he does assist one and then assist two during Warwick's mix. That's the diaphone. So the tel the fucking
Starting point is 00:38:27 tentacle is just shooting around everywhere while you're having to guess high, low, on the Warwick mixup, it's really good. And like they rode that trick to all the wins they did because we couldn't deal with this. It's insanely strong. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:43 So that's the diaphone because I play a lowy on double down, and you can do some stuff. But when you have around 2X assist, exactly. Assist one into two leaves you a year to just mix them up while they're locked down with the tentacle. That's another way of coaching that is pretty effective. That is just like you have one trick. It's really strong.
Starting point is 00:39:04 It's really strong. And then just do everything and plan around this one gimmick and see if they can get past it or not. If we could play neutral, we would win. And if they got the space to run that gimmick, they would take the rap. Like it was very like back and forth and back and forth. There was an early, one of the earlier slams. There was, I forgot who the, the, who the, the streamer was and the coach. But someone taught someone to just headbutt with Honda.
Starting point is 00:39:34 And it was like, that'll work against a lot of people. That's it. It's like, no, no, no, don't get fancy.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Just head butt, have the Occio throw ready to go, and then up, butt slab, you know? The basics, like butt slam to master. And yeah,
Starting point is 00:39:51 it fucking worked. You know, that is, is a really difficult thing to deal with. As you get better, it's still a problem. Right? So you can absolutely teach somebody that one thing and see if that'll carry you through. Because the other bit, too, is that like, admittedly, a bracket is different from a round-robin, you know, kind of playoff.
Starting point is 00:40:16 But if people at the highest level are using this gimmick and are unable to deal with it, you can bet your ass that they're not, you're at lower levels, you're not going to figure out a solution on the fly, you know? And what you want to do is, of course, layer it so that while that's going on, Let's say he has a variation where he does it, I don't know, a little bit slower and goes for a throw. Or if you follow up, if you answer it one way, then, oh, I got a different answer for you. You just like that, just two layers of depth, and that can be your whole coaching game plan. Yeah, interesting. Okay, so the, so far it's an even match in the exhibitions. Are you, so, well, no.
Starting point is 00:41:01 There's some, there's some weaker and stronger. Like there's a couple teams I feel pretty confident against. And there's one team I don't feel confident against. Okay. And that's box boxes in my seed. And I'm like, how the fuck box box gets you to? I fought his vie. And I'm like, I don't.
Starting point is 00:41:18 I don't understand how the fuck this happened. Are they doing electrics? They're doing everything. Okay. They're doing literally everything. Because yeah, like, if you're, if you, well, you know, there's always. there's always that person you're fighting and ranked where you're where you you get absolutely unnioblated by them in game one because you're like oh my god you should be way
Starting point is 00:41:43 above where you are you're probably an expert player that's that smurfing or coming back down through the ranks to learn something and then you play the second game and realize oh wait all they have is that one top layer all they have is that one thing and the moment you crack it they they don't know what the fuck to do right uh geoff is a pretty good character grapplers in general are good at breaking that open because people who are doing pressure that has holes in it get thrown, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:08 and then they have to stop and change that pressure. But if they went through the rest of the cast, never thinking about the gaps in their pressure, then they didn't have to worry about getting thrown and destroyed, you know? So you might be dealing with that like, it's a, I don't know, it's a fancy, you know, cheese au graté, you know, kind of cover,
Starting point is 00:42:29 but then underneath it, There's no content, nothing to worry about. Maybe. But you never know. It's really fascinating because I fought a couple people who had just combos for days. Just fancy, fancy stuff. But they can't deal with run up throw. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:42:49 They can't. Their brain doesn't have the tech reflex. Right. It's fascinating. And you've picked a lane. Your lane is annoying. So my lane is annoying. My lane is hyper-aggressive Timo.
Starting point is 00:43:02 The Timo has really disgusting stuff. He can do off his throws, which actually makes me super mad because like Blitz can't do anything off his throws. But Darius and Alawi and Timo can. That's fucking bullshit. Double the strength of Blitz's throw. Just make it do 40%.
Starting point is 00:43:21 So Blitz currently has a ridiculously, like, it's a, it's a, compromising bug, in my opinion, right where if he does his grapple is get over here and it hits an assist character, the next button he does has no
Starting point is 00:43:40 hit box. Yeah, it's busted. It's really bad. That is enough to make him bottom garbage dirt tier unusable until they fix that. Even without it, he's still not very good. There's problems. There are problems. He's a
Starting point is 00:43:56 fantastic side kick. He's a fantastic background character for certain, you know, super setups. But yeah, that is an un, uh, that you cannot take that character above a certain tier with a problem like that. Because if I know that I'm like, oh, I can just fuck you. And it doesn't go away naturally. It stays persistent until you whiff the button or whatever, you know. Um, anyways. So, so, so you having fun. The tournament is tomorrow. It starts tomorrow. That's the pre-elimination phase. That's seating.
Starting point is 00:44:36 That's Tuesday. Thursday is some Swiss rounds, just some round-robbeting stuff. And then on Saturday is going to be the proper double elimination bracket. There we go. Do you know what you're going to eat for breakfast? Well, maybe we'll win. But
Starting point is 00:44:51 we're definitely going to place, for sure. Have you thought about what you're going to eat? like breakfast like maybe a burger the correct answer is nothing pat oh nothing I should play hungry play hungry
Starting point is 00:45:07 Toronto never forget play hungry so stupid pass out pass out as you play it's never it's never been dumber than the microphone
Starting point is 00:45:24 over Discord, people need to be hearing they need to be hearing Samurai Shampu noises coming out of your microphone over the call. No excuses. I feel like that's like a sci-op about, like, to make your opponents like weaker, you know?
Starting point is 00:45:44 Dude, it's just the Toronto Marvel players were insane. That's all you need to know. You know? in between their horrible accents terrible accents. You know. You leave your moms
Starting point is 00:46:03 to play hungry in the hood? Sick to miss stomach fam. It's not even a real accent. That shit didn't even exist 15 years ago. It's completely fucking fake. Fucking Toronto. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:46:23 All right. All right. What else? I beat Hades 2. I rolled credits on Hades 2. Yeah, air quotes. Yeah. So,
Starting point is 00:46:34 I think the way that Hades 2 has done this ending patch stuff, I don't know if you've heard about that. Did you bring it up last week, I think? I brought up, but I hadn't actually encountered it. Okay, okay. And the patch hadn't come out yet. I think the way they've handled the way this,
Starting point is 00:46:55 patch works is one of the shittiest updates I have ever encountered in my life. It is one of the worst ways. No worry guys. There won't be any spoilers. It is one of the worst ways I have ever had to deal with a patch. It has fully reinforced my like, I'm just going to wait like six months for almost every game I can get a hold of. Like it is, it is the worst.
Starting point is 00:47:23 So the long and short of it, is that people generally did not like the game's 1.0 ending. I went and I checked out what was different and what was changed. And I'll tell you, yeah, that's a pretty bad fucking ending. That's like, I would call it like poor. I wouldn't call it like terrible, but like it's pretty shit. Right. And then what, a month later, six weeks later, they said,
Starting point is 00:47:54 hey, big changes coming to the ending. And it's like, okay. And big changes include a bunch of new dialogue on the path to the ending. The ending's like twice as long. There's some like actual narrative changes that happen, but there's just more of it as well. And I'm like, oh, that's a much better ending. I don't think it's like great, but I think it's much better. However, well, what if I beat 1.0?
Starting point is 00:48:24 and saw the old ending. Well, they're going to add an incantation that you can use to just reset the game's story progress just for the main quest. And so you'll basically be starting over and you have to do like your six and eight runs again. Right? But it will add, you know, you'll basically be playing through the new version.
Starting point is 00:48:45 So here's a much more interesting question. What if I already did everything I need to do before the final important run. Well, Pat, person in this fringe situation, what's going to happen is, is you're going to see the new upgraded ending and none of the new dialogue
Starting point is 00:49:09 that builds up to it. And the ability to rewind the game's state only exists after you beat the game. Okay. Fuck. So the new, because, okay, I saw this being referred to as a true ending, right? No, no, there's two.
Starting point is 00:49:27 There's the credits ending and then there's a true ending afterwards. It's the credits ending that was changed. Okay, the thing after that is the same. So there's a buildup to that stuff that happens through dialogue beforehand. So I'll stop you and I'll just like, because it's complicated. I understand. In the original 1.0 release, the biggest complaint was there's no lead up to this ending. It's very sudden and it comes out of nowhere.
Starting point is 00:49:51 So in addition to changing it for the better, what they also did is went back and put supporting dialogue that would lead the characters to that inclusion. So what I get now having being right at the end, like right at the finish line, I get the new ending that still doesn't have any setup to it. So I go, that's really weird. It's like all the characters change their minds
Starting point is 00:50:16 at the last second for no fucking reason. And I can't go back to see it. until I beat the fucking game. This is not a 1.0 release. I waited like a year to play this game at 1.0 on the fucking Nintendo
Starting point is 00:50:33 Switch when it is done on a console fucking finished. And then I'm playing it for like a couple weeks. And they're like, by the way, we rewrote the whole ending. But you're stuck. You're actually locked in now. What percentage would you say
Starting point is 00:50:49 is it of the new stuff is pre-ending setup versus changes to the actual end. I won't be able to tell you that until I go and actually do it again. Supposedly, nearly every character of note gets multiple lines of dialogue that's set up the new end. Jeez. Across, across eight runs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:12 I mean, the thing with this is, it's almost going back to somewhere. It's not the same. but that the problem I had of like overdosing on pre-release versions of the game where yeah so I accidentally did that with the full release of the game yeah yeah there the the general understanding being like when something is in early access or so anything can happen you can't you know you play at your progress at your own risk or whatever but if you're doing it once there is a 1.0 call then you should not feel like You should not lose anything.
Starting point is 00:51:51 A balance change or a bug fix here or there. And that's complex too because you can't just do like a cutscene viewer. You know what I mean? Like it's tons of dialogue. Yeah. And this game has so much dialogue that like going back to catch it all is also like. It is like the worst feeling situation. I have been in a game's narrative or a patch.
Starting point is 00:52:12 I like ever. Just do it all over. Yeah. Yeah. And so now I'm going to reset it and I'm going to do it all over. and my brain is going to go, wow, I really wish I had seen this first or been able to go back first instead of getting locked into this weird sequence of events. Like, I think that they locked down the Nintendo Switch to release date and then realized they
Starting point is 00:52:38 weren't going to hit it because that first ending when I went back and watched it, that seems incomplete. That seems like not finished. there is too much dialogue re-recorded and too much new art for me to believe they saw people like complain about it and we're like oh let's get everybody back in the studio and fix it up like and now the game's 1.0 and if this is and if this content which i i imagine it sounds like it's pretty good is worth it supposedly that that fucking sucks yeah this reminds me of um p5 royale right and it's it's not of course the same thing with the release structure but it's
Starting point is 00:53:17 in terms of like, is it enough to just go check? Yeah, there's a new ending to that game. Yeah, and I remember at one point, I was like, so is it enough to just check out the new stuff? And it's like, no, because it's integrated. It's integrated, the campaign itself, right? And SMT-5 as well, where at least, okay, with SMT-5, I will say that the vengeance mode is like, wait, no, not vengeance.
Starting point is 00:53:41 Am I getting that wrong? Anyway. Yeah, no, vengeance. Yeah, yeah, yeah. is like, oh, like 20 minutes in, it's diverging heavily, right? So that whole thing about like, ah, you're going back for P5, but the integration starts earlier. And I'm like, I don't have it in me to go do it again. I just don't.
Starting point is 00:54:01 I tried and if I get distracted by something else because there's too much of that game that's the same. I'll go back to it like five years or something like that. So if there was, if the victory lap was like all the same and then from this point forward, it changes. That would be, I'd be okay with that. It would be easier to digest. But nope, the fact that you're all this stuff beforehand and I'm like, yeah, okay. Then I'm just going to get punished for being an early adopter and that'll be that. I happen to be in the, like, if I had beaten the game myself and me like, wow, that's terrible. And then I go, oh, let's see what they changed. That would have been fine. If I had not picked it up until
Starting point is 00:54:36 last week, that would have been fine. But I got to exist in the nexus point of shit. Where now, like, my experience was totally disconnected from itself. And fucking stupid. And again, like, I always, you know, like I've done the pre 1.0 burnout thing. Um, if you specifically waited, that sucks. And you were, and you were also, you stopped right before like the final point is basically. I had one run to go. I had the final run to go when the patch downloaded on the steam on my computer.
Starting point is 00:55:12 Okay. does the extra stuff that you're describing that is added into the main story, did they add stuff to the side content at all as well? The way that works is that like basically your runs with Kronos have more and new dialogue and there are more and new dialogue with side characters about your runs with Kronos. Okay, all in the context of the main runs, but everything you did outside of that is still clear. all the personal progression, all that stuff. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Just the worst. Just the worst. Like an author changing the ending to a book while it's in your hands. Just God awful. Hey, I got to take a quick break. I got to help with baby. I'll be right back. All right. So yeah, to continue off what I was saying, man,
Starting point is 00:56:04 if I was reviewing Hades 2, I would pull a full fucking point off the score for this nonsense. Like this makes me feel stupid for waiting to play the game at release instead of picking it up on a steam sale. Yeah, I mean, okay, so these are truly, I guess, the downsides of like, you know, ongoing development. It works for costs and it works for, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:32 how Hadesu handled it and stuff. And again, I think most people are able to accept the, if it's early access, then you take what you get. I guess here, maybe the thought, to as well as like did they make like the ending being received poorly was not expected so then they went back and improved it so i don't know i feel like they threw this thing together really fast like really when did um hold on when did hadys two release it is two release date that's not correct may sixth is not correct that is wrong google it did not
Starting point is 00:57:15 not come out May 6th, came up September 25th. Okay. So that is what? It's a month. A month ago. It feels really fast to have put this together in one month. Especially since they took like a week for people to get to the ending on mass and start to complain really, really bad.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Okay. So they already were planning to add to it. And they kind of just had a early verse. version of it. I can't tell you for certain, but it feels like this was in the works and just didn't make it. Uncharacteristic. Feel that way. Uncharacteristic of them in terms of like, they usually are pretty solid with all this type of stuff.
Starting point is 00:58:05 So yeah, that, that is that, that super cool thing ended up being a massive disappointment. You're on a weird edge case because of your exact save file progression placement. That's true. I think that they could have solved that by not locking the ability to rewind the game after beating the game. If I could have just gone,
Starting point is 00:58:25 hey, hit the button to restart and just play through the 14 more runs and do it, I would have been like, yeah, okay, that's fine. But like, this edge case doesn't have to exist is basically what I'm saying. No, no. But, but the QA
Starting point is 00:58:41 in me is like, no, but I would write that shit up anyways. you know what I mean? I would report that and go like, that doesn't need to be like that. So fair enough. Yeah, I've been having like longer and longer
Starting point is 00:58:53 and weirder and weirder relationships with games being done and finished. Like they have said outright, Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 will receive a final stability patch and its final DLC this coming Tuesday on the 11th. So I'll start playing it. Mm-hmm. Right?
Starting point is 00:59:14 Cyberpunk. literally put out a patch that's called the final patch. And then they had to like three times during your playthrough. I, yeah. Like, I started that playthrough, smug as shit, being like, man, I sure waited for the perfect time. I sure wasn't a sucker that played it earlier and got a worse version of what the fuck do you mean? There's new shit coming. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:59:40 So early access is obviously very different. and who am I to say that you shouldn't improve your game post release but like it really feels like every single game is an early access for like five years after it comes out like I know that's been a joke that people have said
Starting point is 01:00:00 but like I probably would have beaten Boulder's Gate 3 if there wasn't always a patch two weeks from now that improves it and adds more stuff this attitude can kind of go on forever. I mean, somewhere out there, someone could be like, yeah, I'm, you know what? I was waiting for Dragon Ball fighters to be finished before I started playing. And now that they announced one more character, now it's time to start getting it to know.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Fighting games are obviously anything competitive is a slightly different place. But no. It's getting more and more and more frustrating. Like Monster Hunter Wild, somebody mentions that. Dude, that game is, they put out a statement like in May that was like, we'll be working on the performance in a patch in December of this year. So are you fucking crazy? It's not the highest priority, but I always think about like solutions that could be elegant where it's like, okay, so you missed something. Is there a way for you to go back and not miss it?
Starting point is 01:01:03 You know, is there a way for you to go to a menu somewhere and just recap a conversation, recap a moment? replace something to just kind of go back and see the content. You know what they could have done? You know what I would have preferred in Hades? I would have preferred them just loading up all the new dialogue and have like, go talk to heck it takes six times in a row. Yeah, just blast the dialogue in one shot. That would be way better. Oh my God. That's so in elegant, but yeah. I mean, the other, you know, because there's so many, it's such a game two with random musings, you know what I mean? So I'm like, I, from one, thing to be like, oh, go to the character's profile and then each step of the way you can select this step of their heart progression, this step of their heart progression, and replay that
Starting point is 01:01:49 dialogue if you want to hear it again or something. But yeah, when there's little things that are asides or, you know, shit where, I mean, in part one, when Meg randomly shows up in the calf, you know, it's like, yeah, you don't, the lines coming out of her are not planned, that's not planned. She's going to show up randomly and you may or may not go talk to her, you know, It's like there's it's so much. It's so so much. And the whole star of the show really is how insane the amount of dialogue. The insane word count in this game is is a feature.
Starting point is 01:02:21 So I don't know the most elegant way to just let you go back and not miss it. But weird edge case. Weird edge case. It has really, really soured me on the narrative. Like playing it fucking rules. But like the story, which is supposed to be like the bread. of the of the game sandwich is is like soured on me
Starting point is 01:02:44 and it bums me the fuck out so like while I have the QA field that like break shit as I'm playing it you have this one where I can't the timing field is gone awful you get so shit this happens to you multiple times where you're in that weird edge
Starting point is 01:02:58 case all the time it's the types of games that I like I like I like Western made RPGs well I should just go fuck myself that Like, and this is, so this has been the thing for ever. As soon as these games could get patched, like, it's become like, man, playing, playing
Starting point is 01:03:20 New Vegas on launch day, do playing New Vegas on launch day back in 2009. That was crazy. That was crazy. That thing was, like, that might be the most on fire release I've ever got my hands on. But that's waiting for the fans to fix it, right? Like. Right. And here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:03:39 you know what I didn't mind it back then you know why I didn't mind it back then because I was like 20 and when I was like oh fully on the fallout train I'll just replay it again when the deal C comes out and then I did and then later when I was a little older I'll just stream it so I played it like and now I played it like four times but when I'm looking at Pathfinder wrath of the righteous or fucking rogue traitor and I'm like hey I'm going to play this 145 hours R.P.G. once. Is it safe? I would like it to be finished.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Can you not do four and a half years of D.L.C. please? Fuck it. Rather, The Righteous also did a free epilogue that voice acted endings for all the characters. That was the last thing they put out.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Like three years after the game came out. I'm thinking of games that have like massive time sinks in them where you know you don't run into this and I'm like from soft games absolutely change themselves as you're playing them Eldon Ring Eldon Ring Eldon Ring Elden Ring fucking moved NPCs around like a game of fucking Elton Ring came in musical chairs at like 1st 0.8 man like that they picked people up and dropped them elsewhere they made bushes start talking to you like they just They had so much shit unfinished when that dropped. And fortunately, I guess, when you do want to go find out something that you missed, it's one five-minute YouTube video away.
Starting point is 01:05:19 Yeah. It's an easy catch-up to be like, oh, yeah, here's the dialogue from when they moved Nefelli Liu from here over to there, you know? And you're caught up in two seconds. But yeah, they were not done. I like really ambitious RPGs from North American and European developers that launch broken every time. I have played Witcher 1, Witcher 2, Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk on release to some degree. Right? Like, Witcher 3.
Starting point is 01:05:51 And every single game has come out more fucked the day it comes out. Like, I don't know if you remember this because you didn't play Witcher 3. Witcher 3 came out fucked on release Yes, but Tons and tons of quests Just didn't resolve correctly But I remember the discussion around
Starting point is 01:06:14 This has just been like it's CD project This is what you, this is what happens Right So I remember like long ago When we had the discussion about cyberpunk When they showed off that trailer I'm like, this game's gonna come out fucked up
Starting point is 01:06:27 But even I could not have foreseen Just how fuck up that game would come out. That was their fucking coup de grasse on that shit. Yeah, I mean, to be, to be fair to that game, like they were picking up the ashes. Like, it was, it was nothing but shitpost memes of people falling out of worlds, which still happens, by the way, but like, yeah, unplayable garbage, uh, a footage coming out all over Twitter at the time, versus now where you're like, no, no, no, this is a good game. This is cool, you know. I'm going to tell you right now.
Starting point is 01:07:01 I actually recently rewent through Richard 1 and I've fucked around with Witcher 2 and 3 since. Witcher 1, 2, and 3 and Cyberpunk will never be stable ever. There's like the way those games are built and the things they want to do, they will never be stable. Witcher 1 runs off a single core. You can't get a good frame rate in a bunch of those areas. The computer to make it.
Starting point is 01:07:26 No matter what. It doesn't exist. Right. crisis. They're a far cry from what they were on release. A far cry? Ah. Expression.
Starting point is 01:07:40 People use that. Where. Yeah. Okay. I think Witcher 2 is the most fucked up of them all. I think that game sucks in a really interesting way. And I love it. I'll play it on stream one day.
Starting point is 01:07:59 Okay. Anything else for this week? I don't think so. If you want to buy a cool clown shirt with my face on it, you can go down to Orchid, sorry, shop.orgid8.com. There you go. And look for the Pat Stairs at Clown shirt. It's only available until November 8th.
Starting point is 01:08:26 You only have five more days to get it. People have already gotten it. And have noticed that the clown, the clown motif on it is actually way large. archer than it appears. It's fucking huge. Oh, it's a blow up. Oh, yeah. It's fucking awesome. I have mine. I love that thing.
Starting point is 01:08:44 It's also really soft. There you go. I've been receiving photos of folks who have gotten their hands on their plushes. Yep. And I can confirm. How you crucified earlier today? I did. There's not great.
Starting point is 01:09:00 I can confirm as I've, I've just this morning I got like the extras, you know, from that came And so that's, you know, hey, there's some wholesome content out there. Someone's playing third strike. And Makoto, you know, wins a match. And then the camera pans over to little wolves getting shoved off the couch in salt. And I'm like, yeah, that's cool.
Starting point is 01:09:20 And then there's jars. And yeah, I saw the jars. Yeah. Like I said, the jars are currently empty. So you're already, hey, that's okay. Just Sarah, just like, at least. You can't tell them what to do. I can't tell you what to do.
Starting point is 01:09:33 They're too strong. But I can at least. Just if you're gonna, if I'm gonna be in the jar, just let me have my stick in the side of the jar too so I can lab while I'm in the jar. That's all. Just it's really mean to put me in the jar and take the stick away. That's so mean. Listen. Listen, you know what?
Starting point is 01:09:54 They'll probably give you a choice of what goes in the jar, but your choices will be limited and bad. Okay. The stick can go in alongside other things. or yeah all right well I'm gonna try and stream the box jam slam this week as well as some regular stuff over at twitch.tv slash pat stares at and youtube.com slash pat stairs at here's hoping that it fucking sucks I mean
Starting point is 01:10:24 I would have said before this like now we can truly see whether this is the good Wi-Fi but like the Wi-Fi was so the internet is having a problem the new router's Wi-Fi is fucking crazy good. No, we're beyond that at this point. No, the problem is the cable or the, I don't know. I'm sad. What about you, man?
Starting point is 01:10:46 Yeah, so not, again, not a ton, been pretty busy, but I guess, jumped on and played, Jimmy Bones came over, we played a little bit of 2XCO locally, and I just wanted to be like, you know what? just cool that offline you have all the the colors there and all the characters and it's a that's a smart move to just be like okay like this is an online you know free to play type of thing but I hope that any other games in the future that any other fighting games in the future that come along like this do allow you to just have a full sweet offline mode you know and and let that be accessible no matter what's happening with the servers or whether or not you want to bother playing online you know. that's that's cool that that that's a thing. Also nice was the ability for each controller plugged in
Starting point is 01:11:40 to cycle through playing matches in a lobby or so while, you know, one person was active, but like anybody could start playing on the controller. So that was great. You know, so the only major problem that I ran
Starting point is 01:11:56 into is, this is apparently a riot server-based thing. The the cost of getting excellent rollback with regional net code server connections is that people on North American accounts are connecting to rooms with people with North American accounts and you cannot join a lobby if you have a European account or Asian. So that sucks because, for example, that came up in the slam. Some people had to make North American accounts despite being European. That sucks, man. Yeah. So Solidus had a had a non-North American account. and like, you know, you just couldn't even join the lobby.
Starting point is 01:12:33 And it's like, I understand and expected things to be like, oh, by general proximity, you connect to these games and these rooms and these servers. But when you're not able at all to go cross region, that's a bummer. Well, you can go cross region. You just have to choose a different region. Make a different account. Yes, you know. And this is going to get extra complicated when consoles come into play because cross play is going to be a,
Starting point is 01:13:01 thing and you're not going to have these same restrictions unless you do. I don't know. You know, because like if it works the way, for example, like multiverses worked where you load up the game and then it asks you to log into your WB account. So whatever you're playing the PC version with, you also have to have it ready to go on console and then it'll just lock you in any ways, which I could see that being the simplest way for them to go forward with this. But if they don't and just let you
Starting point is 01:13:32 use your own Sony account information to go online as its own separate thing and then match you up that way, they're going to have a huge issue with people coming from wherever on consoles matching up against people that are region locked, you know? I hope they fix that though.
Starting point is 01:13:48 I would prefer that they actually fix the inability to play duos on the fucking couch first. That's stupid. So we talked about this a little bit before is do you ask for two logins or do you just go fuck it it's a clone of the same person leave it alone i have it to be a clone of the same fucking person because that'll work on consoles as well in fact i bet that's one of the reasons holding up the console
Starting point is 01:14:16 release right forcing because playstation and x-box they like to do the clone account thing yeah yeah i guess you just have to take you have to let go of the idea of the ranked number being your personal score then a little bit the philosophy of what ranked should be well because there's a already gets fucky-wucky when you have any two guys that are like I was playing with
Starting point is 01:14:44 with Shumi and cloud and my fucking hidden Elo was going all over yeah yeah yeah no it does get wild with that but there there is that like okay you're stuck to your your the idea that you're on your own controller is what we're going to use to distribute your points
Starting point is 01:14:59 um I think it yeah You have to get into the discussion about what it should be or shouldn't be worth to, you know, be like, hey, me and ghost me, whoever's sitting next to me, are count as my profile and whether or not that matters, you know. I believe someone pointed out that when it comes to duos in, is it Starcraft 2? Where you can play in a duo with somebody and each character combination has its own or no, no, each. player you match up with, regardless of what you pick, instead of doing character-specific mastery or whatever, you can have, like, you and this player are
Starting point is 01:15:41 considered an entry of your own, with your own rating. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. So each, each two accounts together can become its own ranking, you know? Complex, but elegant, if they're willing to do that. And if it's been done before with, uh, with Starcraft and like, you know, you have an example of what that could be. Because I can understand, like, I love character-specific rankings, and they encourage people to, you know, get out of their comfort zone and mess around and have
Starting point is 01:16:14 fun with other characters. You don't have to sacrifice anything by playing a new character that comes out in Street Fighter every time they drop because you still have your best characters in their own ranking. Um, you know, but, uh, with, with, with taking two characters in a different fuse shit gets weird right what i will say is that i'm i'm just at the top of diamond now um like there's way more overlap in a two x-kio character that and then there isn't a fucking street fighter character like the the the basics apply to everybody in a way that they don't really in street fighter like i like i picked i you know i don't know how to play alowie i don't know how. But I grabbed Timo
Starting point is 01:16:57 Alawi for a couple of matches instead of Timo Blitz and like it was fine. Like I didn't do any fancy fucking shit with Alawi. I did the air combo into the corner and then I brought the tentacles out and people don't know how to fucking deal with that shit at all. So the weird thing about
Starting point is 01:17:13 like hyper fighting games is the hyper games is that like as much as they get like wild and complex and all over the place with what you're describing with characters and teams and synergy. Something that they do have that like, you know, something like Street Fighter, for example, doesn't, is Magic Series. You can go light, medium heavy, launch, jump, light, medium heavy, special,
Starting point is 01:17:39 and that'll work in any game, in any context, whatever universally, all of them have that. And there is that little basis of like, if I go play Dragon Ball fighters and I pick up a character I've never used before, I know that, there's that, you know. It's very, very basic. It's nothing advanced. It's nothing that's going to help me, like, win at, you know, beyond my skill level, but you can just have a basic ass du-advancing, you know, series of buttons combo that you can do with everybody, universally no matter what. Um, anyways. Uh, okay, so beyond that, uh, chipped away a little bit more at Silk Song. Uh, I didn't do much, but I did do the Verdania area. Yeah, that's optional, but it's cool.
Starting point is 01:18:27 It's really cool. It took, like, it was one of these areas that I was like, I was kind of waiting to see him like, okay, I know what you're going for, but it's like, I'm like, where, what are you setting up here? And then you start getting lore, and the lore pits parts of that are really fantastic. And, you know, I, yeah, the Green Princess story is fucking great. I really enjoyed that piece of the game.
Starting point is 01:18:51 and it's extraordinarily optional and it feels like that is a side character that has three exit ramps that you can completely ignore you know you can you run in this yeah this NPC
Starting point is 01:19:14 I don't know how it plays out if you ignore them for most of the game in all these ways but like there's a lot of ways to not progress that plot it feels like but there's a great fucking payoff for doing so it feels. Absolutely. Lore wise so.
Starting point is 01:19:30 A way better boss fight. Yes. Yes, yes, yeah. That was pretty much that. And then I did spend some time. I talked a little last week about there's two games I saw that looked really cool. One was ball pit.
Starting point is 01:19:51 The other was slots and dagger. so I decided to jump a bit more onto slots and daggers and see what was going on because I wanted something that didn't have like active time um
Starting point is 01:20:02 whatever I didn't I wanted something that wasn't real time so let me I was like let me check out um let me check out slots and daggers and I'll check up ball pit after uh slots and daggers is fucking cool um yeah it is as described it is a slot machine
Starting point is 01:20:17 rogue like you know progression uh uh um a game and there is a basic element of you know in between every stage every round
Starting point is 01:20:31 you you get money and then you buy upgrades for your weapons and then each time you roll your slots the things that appear either attack build up your defense
Starting point is 01:20:44 or build up your money or build up your whatever you know like so there's all these different stats you can you can build up and then at the end of your role it resolves all of them and, you know, casts the outcome. While you're doing so, the enemy you're fighting has a, whatever it's doing up,
Starting point is 01:21:04 it's whatever it's about to do to you, you can see it's coming up next, you can see its shield and it's HP, and then it's, there's different elements to like, you know, how combos can work and things. So, um, you start off with like a three, you know, classic slot machine, uh, and then you pick one of three weapons. So, you know, you you have a sword, for example, that'll do an attack. You have a shield and build up your shield defense and then a coin, it gives you a coin on the side. Eventually, you can get things like poison so that you can build up DOT.
Starting point is 01:21:36 Or you can build up stuff where you automatically heal passively in the background. Or you can unlock a fourth slot, right? And then you can get jackpots a lot easier because you just need three in a row, but now you've got four or even five, right? then you start finding synergy between some builds and some real cool shit happens where you go okay here's a here's a weapon that the damage it does is directly related to how many coins you have sitting in your pouch oh i love money build right don't spend your money that's your damage right and now he's built at one point the other day that was like you take gold damage first yeah right right right
Starting point is 01:22:20 Right. I walk into the fight with a thousand dollars. I'm like, all right, let's go, Kronos. But now all of a sudden, certain enemies that have attacks that are like steals 50% of your gold are way more threatening. Because beforehand, I'd be like, oh, I don't care. I'll just spend as much gold as I can before they steal it. And now it's like, oh, fuck, that's my bills. Oh, my hell. This enemy becomes way harder, you know? another one is like yeah like you're
Starting point is 01:22:49 you're kind of vampire stealing you know as you attack them and the damage you do is dependent on the amount of shields you build up so now it makes sense to in your in your potential you pick how many potential weapons or objects you want to add to your wheel and if I put like three or four different kinds of shields
Starting point is 01:23:10 then I'm going to be building up defense most of the time and then every once in a while cash out with like a lucky, you know, sword that calls it all in, you know? So I have a quick question about like the core mechanic here is what are your options to mitigate RNG? Because it's a slot machine. Yes. So there's, it is a slot machine and weapons are going to come up as you just roll and get
Starting point is 01:23:41 them. The damage, the RNG mitigation comes in the form of weapons with skill check. So, for example, a default sword does 15 damage, but a great sword, like a big old honkin fucking buster sword, can go up to 35 damage, but there's a quick moving meter game that you have to click to time where the damage is. So the damage, you know, there's a little skill game each time you pull up, you roll a buster sword. Okay. Right? another thing you can do is by not adding every single item to the slot inventory, you increase the chances of more consistent things. So it's almost like Ballotra or any other game.
Starting point is 01:24:21 It is. It is. It is odds, right? There is a part of it where you can go, I want the odds in my favor, so I will not add more than this so that I'll see these things more often. and consistency becomes another way to mitigate the randomness. And then finally, there's also, shit, what was it? I just had it. What did I say?
Starting point is 01:24:47 There's the speed of the mini game. There's that part. And, oh, God damn it. I'm just blanking. But there's another way to do it too. Yes, there's an ability you can get that literally slows down the speed that the slots roll at. And it makes it like, oh, that's nice.
Starting point is 01:25:06 You can actually react if you are really, really sharp on the button presses. And you can see that like essentially each roller, the order is random every, every time. But like it slows it down in a way where if you have good enough reactions, you can kind of game the system. That's a really useful one for sure. So, you know, all of that means by the end, you're fighting bosses and stuff that are like way, way, way harder than you can ever R&G your way through. But you are bending the odds in your favor by doing all this, you know? And at some point, like, after clearing, like, most of the levels, I still haven't beaten it yet. But they actually have, like, you know, when you create, like, an insane build in Balachro and you just have, like, fucking, you know, nan inf, like, insane scores.
Starting point is 01:25:56 The concept of numbers crumbles to dust in the face of your malt. Not a, not a number infinite, right? Yes, you know, so you get, when you start getting to these insane setups, because you can unlock an item on your slot machine that is, gives you a coin and then rolls again, or does 15 damage like a little bear trap and then rolls again? Or rolls the previous two, does the effects of whatever just happened and then re-rolls the previous two slots. and then you start getting like, okay, so I got damage, damage, magic, heal,
Starting point is 01:26:38 and then 2X, re-roll these last two, do their effect, and then one of those last two also becomes a 2X, and then it re-rolls the first two, and now you're just seeing that, da, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, number, number go. And so like some bosses and stuff eventually get the ability to be like,
Starting point is 01:26:54 there is a literally like a combo breaker meter. Like there's a KV that says, okay, stop, your combo ends here. the difficulty in fighting this boss is they're not very strong but they can stop your infinite buildup momentum you know that probably has to exist or else you would just you just roll it stop everything yes you know um so all of that is of course full of juice and chemicals and all that stuff feeling good as you play it and um yeah and then you start getting like you know enemies that are just like okay well you built up a system of uh having high eight high shields uh
Starting point is 01:27:31 You ignore your HP and your strength is tied to your shields. Well, here's a litch that attacks your HP directly and doesn't give a fuck about your shields. Fuck you. You know, so yeah, it's all this is like, it's an interesting and fun kind of game. And of course, each time you die, you get a bunch of like permanent upgrades to go spend on, you know, vampire survivors, any of these games, et cetera. And yeah, just it's fun. It's fun. I'm enjoying it. the also i do have a piece of news about vampire survivors that i don't know where to put
Starting point is 01:28:04 because it's actually really old um they got cloud saves working on that game between pc and your phone like six months ago whoa oh yeah um so because i i i wanted to play vampire survivors on my phone because i can't play it at home right i can't play it'll kill the baby it'll just get them and i was like oh cloud said you know apparently that happened a while ago so like yeah now you can use your progress done file on your phone and just screw up your own brain. Sick. Yeah. I saw the announcement where Ballotro crossover is happening. And it was almost jokingly like, oh, it's just another crossover. Oh, it's with Ballotra.
Starting point is 01:28:39 Okay, sure. And you're like, yeah, like, of course. I'm surprised this didn't happen sooner. You know, Vampires Farvarez now has like so much content that like the recommendation for the Castlevania thing is to turn off everything you've been off from everything else and just play Castlevania like it's a brand new vampire survivors. Jesus. I mean, I will give them credit for not forcing it to be a separate release, you know,
Starting point is 01:29:06 because cadence of Hyrule is its own game. It's not a piece of DLC for, you know, Neckerdancer. A lot of times if the company's got an IP big enough, you'd think they'd be like, no, you have to make its own separate thing, but they allowed it to be DLC. Nintendo is, is,
Starting point is 01:29:23 they're crazy. It's always, got to be like that. Um, but all this to say that like, yeah, slots and daggers is a nice little fun, uh,
Starting point is 01:29:30 um, roglike that you can chip away at. And, um, you know, it's got that sort of, uh, um,
Starting point is 01:29:39 that, that progression itch of, um, slave the spire type of thing as you go. So, um, finding new build synergies is always fun. And it's,
Starting point is 01:29:46 and it's very generous about like what you unlock and how quickly you unlock new ways to play. So, um, check it out. Slots and daggers. Uh, Quick word from our sponsors.
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Starting point is 01:41:18 with the annual plan. Thanks, boot.dev. Thanks, boot.dev. All right. What is going on? I appreciate consistency. I appreciate recurring bits.
Starting point is 01:41:35 I appreciate how every once in a while we can say things like, oh, you be soft, right? Oh, you be soft. You know, we can appreciate what's going on. What's, what's,
Starting point is 01:41:47 what's, what are the silly things happening over with? I'm like, really turning it around, actually. That's weird. And something that's beautiful, that's becoming consistent, is every couple of years we get to go,
Starting point is 01:42:00 what's soldier boy up to? It turns out. I remember when he was going to change video games because he bought Atari. Well, so, Before that, there was the classic Soldier Boy playing braid where... It really makes me super happy that that video makes Jonathan Blow really upset.
Starting point is 01:42:22 So Soldier Boy playing braid calling it the dumbest game he's ever played. What is this stupid shit? He just goes backwards. This game ain't got no point. I fucking love that. And then there was Soldier Boy buys Atari or claims to. But he asked about Atari coin. He got fucking...
Starting point is 01:42:41 Russell. Sure did. And then, you know, the continuing adventures of Soldier Boy take us back to the last time we talked about it was, I want to say 2018, where he started selling drop shipping consoles, the Soldier Game console, which was essentially he just, yeah, there was some China handhelds that he was doubling and tripling the price on. Good stuff, Solge Boy. You know. So, so the classic, uh, the classic just can't resist a drop shipping scheme. Um, once again, we find ourselves, uh, uh, here with the announcement that, uh, there's a new soldier boy console. Oh, fuck off, dude. And it's a handheld. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:33 And it looks exactly like the retroid. But don't worry. It's different. And you can go by your soldier game. Retroid pocket flip to. I feel like it's somewhat, it's got to be somewhat in his ear, right? It's got to be like the money guy in his ear. That's like, you know, you got to get in on ground floor on this.
Starting point is 01:44:05 Ground floor hustle, right? Because same thing like with the Atari coins thing. It's just like if you're, if you're, if you're, trying to hit that rise and grind game and someone shows up and it's like there are because drop shipping is is you know it's a very it's a it's an established wheels or greased game for anybody at this point right you can go to the website and find the the costs of these things are all available and you can order them in whatever bulk they are and you can ask them to brand it the way you want to and give it its own name or whatever and then just get them in bulk and start reselling it
Starting point is 01:44:41 and you never have to do anything because you just you ship it from the factory that it's made at with your own brand. I was Costco. That's it. One of the ones I remember specifically was the little two-wheeled scooter things that no one really knows what to call them. It's like a segue without handles, right? Because. Overboard fucking things. No, every name you come up with is correct because it's a drop shipped two-wheel, no handle.
Starting point is 01:45:11 segue, right? Some people called them the hoverboard. There was a bunch of them they were going around. Someone called them a funky duck was a name. I thought those got pulled off the market because they were fucking dangerous. They sure are. And if you ride through traffic with them and fall off, you might die. But hey, there's still people rolling them around in the club. There's still people rolling them around outside. You know, making, making videos, etc. It's a content thing. And all it really takes is a couple TikToks to be like, oh, what's that? It's got lights on. it let's go woo um but yeah whatever you want to call it it's not just a hoverboard there's a billion names because everyone went to a website that says you can get one and you can buy it over here but you have a unique link that has your name on it that says it's one of my things and it's the same shit every time right so yes this is a this is an ongoing bit and soldier boy seems to really really really want to get into the handheld video game market, but he also wants to make sure that you pay like four to five hundred dollars for something that costs about 50.
Starting point is 01:46:21 So I just, you know, the only other bit is the retroid, the company, the folks that, you know, that made this console. Quote, I didn't know about this. This is not any kind of official licensing deal. He does not have permission to read. brand our products and sell them as a own. The retroid pocket flip two is patented in the U.S. by ourselves.
Starting point is 01:46:48 But you know, you can always just make a video and say that things are coming out. No one can stop you. I remember, I remember watch, I follow gone on TikTok who's a corporate lawyer
Starting point is 01:47:02 and he describes that his entire job every single day, nine to five, is he works for a large company is a guy from sales comes into his office and he goes, I found a great, I got a great new idea to make money. And his job is to go, yeah, somebody thought of that 70 years ago. It's a crime.
Starting point is 01:47:26 You can't do that. And he does that just like literally all day, every single fucking day. And it's just that's where we're at now. That's where we're at. Watch me. Sue Got that free money glitch Correct that soldier boy
Starting point is 01:47:45 Sue crack that soldier boy Sue crack that soldier boy sue Yeah Yeah it's just And because you've seen the effort This is the fourth time We're going around We know that this is going to be forever
Starting point is 01:47:57 Right We're just there's always got to be a new bit As relevance as time goes on As age catches up with you We got to find a new grift We got to find a new hustle We need a new single-use website
Starting point is 01:48:10 because I used to go to is DMX in jail.com like almost every single day for a while. And now he's dead. So he's no, he's not in jail. Is soldier boy scabbing you?
Starting point is 01:48:22 His soldier boy running a crypt. Your honor, the defendant's opening statement is, yeah, trick, yeah. Objection,
Starting point is 01:48:35 Your Honor. Brugabra. Jigabra. Sustained. Sustained. On the grounds of get out my face. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:48:50 Good stuff. Good stuff. If you're going to throw your money away, that's one fun way to do it. I would recommend that over the other options. There's a lot of things. So actually. You could go buy.
Starting point is 01:49:08 the Mortal Kombat Legacy Collection, for example. So I'm going to go look this up because I heard, but I didn't see. So you know, so you, but you've known, you're, you're no stranger to the idea of old game legacy collections coming out and just having massively fucked up. Absolutely nothing to offer, right? Okay. So here you go. You got your big old honking, um, collection of, you know, Mortal Kombat.
Starting point is 01:49:38 one, two, three, four, you know, you're getting... Four. Four, the 3D one, the war gods one. Yeah. You're getting it, of course, you know, 50 bucks. It's that full bit. And would you like to hazard a guess at what doesn't work? Would you like to...
Starting point is 01:49:58 Okay, so I'm watching a little bit of a trailer here, and I'm seeing that it actually has way more games than I thought it was going to have. As special forces, it has MK Mythologies. Multiple versions, multiple versions. multiple versions of them across some of the Game Boy games that's crazy uh what's going to work i'm going to assume online play of any kind is not going to work ding ding ding there is online play however um there are no lobbies of any kind uh you cannot play uh with your friends in a lobby
Starting point is 01:50:30 you cannot play with strangers in a lobby um you cannot play ranked in a lobby or in a lobby at all. You cannot play ranked period. What you can do is you can play quick play with random people. Sure. And that's about it.
Starting point is 01:50:48 That's crap. That's shit. That's awful. You, of course, cannot play crossplay, you know, and you cannot play on a setup
Starting point is 01:50:58 without horrendous lag because everything going through the game is emulated, has got massive lag issues. There's weird audio issues. issues. Um, when you can get a match online, it's massively divided because it's particular versions of each particular game. And it's just like, what, what the fuck are we doing, guys? Um,
Starting point is 01:51:20 I've seen the people, like, the best part of, of this package is apparently the documentary that it comes with, which is like a documentary about the history of the making of Mortal Kombat or whatever. But you have to kind of at this point, imagine that like, looking at the treatment they give the premier product that is MK1, for example. What type of afterthought is the collection going to be, like, yeah, it's not surprising. This could have been a slam dunk, because there's some winners in this list. And also the list of games here is enormous, right? Like, Moral Kombat has, like, a really, really long and storied and cool history.
Starting point is 01:52:03 And so, like, and I'm looking at, like, the menus and, like, the descriptions in the, the in the like they have arcade cabinets and pictures of the and like yeah this could be a big win but you're saying that you the online play is dog shit and also the games themselves are horrible and laggy they sure are and also i assume it doesn't include the ps2 games uh as in hold on as in the deception deadly alliance no that trilogy no no not that trilogy of course not the games that would be by far the most interesting to go back to because they have crazy single player content. The menus have
Starting point is 01:52:40 been put lag on them apparently. Fucking sick. So, yeah, because you know, you have to save something for legacy collection part two. Right? This really, this really goes well with that complete collection or whatever the fuck it's called the art book that came out that had
Starting point is 01:52:57 all the old sprites present in the art book. A.I. slopped into complete garbage. Yeah. Like every single old portrait in that entire book has been AI slopped into just trash. At some point, I remember someone had like discussing the idea of like, why not release a like a version of the game that just has HD or higher res scans of all the photos they took of all the actors. Which they did.
Starting point is 01:53:29 They took super super high res photographs of all that shit. That would be a fantastic thing to do, you know, that'd be a super cool idea. but assuming that they still exist. And they didn't just throw them away. Well, there that is. And what was the other bit there? Oh, no, just every time something like this happens in the case of fighting games or so,
Starting point is 01:53:55 you're like, you're also trying to peel people off of Fightcade, you know, which exists. It's not going to get you your special forces or whatever other stuff, but it's like, it's there and anyone who cares is probably playing an S&K or Capcom game, but if they're not, there is a place where they can go get good online matches of the guy fighting games and arcade games they enjoy.
Starting point is 01:54:16 And you have to try to convince people to not do that with these collections. The Capcom collections had their problems, but like they look like fucking gangbusters by comparison. Dude, I got to say, like, it's the most mortal combat thing possible to be like, look at the incredible breadth of features and games and options we included with this. Does it play well? Oh, who gives the shit? It's Mortal Kombat.
Starting point is 01:54:45 How many characters there are? Why would you ask that? Do you know what franchise this is? Yeah. It's like, God. Someone says, finish us, the Mortal Kombat story. I mean, fuck. It would be super.
Starting point is 01:55:03 super sick if Mortal Kombat put out like more than one good game every decade. That would be so sick if they did that. But you have to kind of, you have to kind of look at it and go, look at it and go, are they doing the exact thing to make the money every time though? Like, are they not doing the, the bit where it comes out? gets all the attention, it gets all the money, and then they don't have to keep working on it because it dies quickly, and that's actually not a bad thing. Maybe it's intended. Maybe it's planned obsolescence. If the game is too good, you'd have to keep supporting it for long,
Starting point is 01:55:50 and that sucks because we want to move on to the next one. I, okay, so I just checked, and I have to apologize to the audience, because my joke at the expense of Mortal Kombat is actually factually incorrect. I made a joke saying it'd be nice if they could release more than one good game every decade. I have now double checked Mortal Kombat 2 came out in 93 and Mortal Kombat
Starting point is 01:56:15 9 came out in 2011. So there was in fact no good Mortal Kombat game between 2000 and 2010. And there hasn't been one since 2011. And that's unfortunate. I'll give MKX its flowers, but you would. You know.
Starting point is 01:56:33 that's yeah sure that's one reply, sure sure um anyways MKX can come out 2015
Starting point is 01:56:47 ooh ooh the the 2010's got two good ones maybe ooh maybe 2020 you'll get a good a good Mortal Kombat
Starting point is 01:56:58 game I mean you know you're playing a game of averages right and when you set your expectation based on past performance MK10 you're like whoa hey you look at that anyways I did not say that
Starting point is 01:57:22 okay oh yeah well how about I target you then how you feel about dayus X there's two good games in that franchise well too. And there's only four games, so it could be worse. Well, the OG remaster is, uh, is happening. Aspire has, um, you know, put out some, put out some, some info from that got revealed. And, uh, the, the original art director has seen the remaster. And I just bring this up because the exact quote.
Starting point is 01:57:59 This is the same thing that happened last week for Halo. This is the same thing. The exact quote from the OG art directors and looking at the remaster is, quote, Oh, what the fuck, says O'Flaherty. No, this did not need to happen. Sorry, whoever was involved in this. Oh, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:23 No. And then O'Flaherty continues. if you're going to do it yeah all right why not why am I judging bro
Starting point is 01:58:38 like I mean the resigned defeat I know I know that you and I and like many the people listening to this are like cringe
Starting point is 01:58:54 ass fucking video game art enjoy your fucking loser idiot babies or whatever but Like, it's getting increasingly annoying when stuff that I would personally view as, like, vitally important to the history of the medium in general is just slopped and shat out like garbage. Like, Deus X is like far reaching in its influence. It's a really important game.
Starting point is 01:59:24 And this is not yet in the realm of we dropped it into the instant upscript. scale machine and pop this out. Like this is an attempt at making new assets and it is just done in a poor manner. Lighting and models and everything else. What was the quote? Yeah, someone said, wow,
Starting point is 01:59:48 they really turned those 1990 graphics into 2003. You know? Like, and this is just, yeah, like this is by a spear? Aspire, yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:59 Fire. And it's kind of just like, As far as I understand, we are not yet looking at the AI did the whole thing. But we're about to- Spire is in current trouble with using AI in a bunch of their other remasters. Oh, Rutt Row. The Tomb Raider remasters. Okay.
Starting point is 02:00:22 The Lara Croft voice actor is suing them for using AI of her shit. Okay. So more than likely this is what we're looking at. I don't know if you saw, but when you said, well, this isn't put it into the slot machine. And I put my finger up and I went on and I started typing. I just typed in Deis Aspire AI use. And look at him.
Starting point is 02:00:44 A bunch of fucking results. Well, there we fucking go then. Yeah. Inflate the bubble. When I saw this trailer, I went, oh, yeah. And then I kept watching the trailer. And I was like, oh.
Starting point is 02:00:59 I again I just I appreciate just the the single you can hear the deflation coming from the art director like you know um I think more old game devs should drag the sequels to or remasters of their work I think that rules I think it's fucking awesome when they do it I think they're speaking from a point of like legitimate authoritative expertise to give like meat to the feeling that tons of people have. I think it's awesome. I think when Halo devs go, man, this remaster looks like crap, that's sick. I think when I think when this person starts going on about the art in this remaster being shit and go, oh, fucking who am I? I think that's awesome. I think that's fucking great. I mean, the worst is that like the further back you go, the more you're looking at games where the art direction was reliant on an artist using the limitations of the medium to do cool shit, right?
Starting point is 02:02:15 Like for the blocky old game that it is, the shadows and the way the textures are displayed and everything like that, you're doing a lot. every time you look at old CRT you know the blur of the the way a Kodak portrait looks or something from Castlevania Symphony of the Night looks
Starting point is 02:02:34 on a CRT screen versus on a monitor it like you can see it like they're using tricks of the of the limitations to make it look better that's the shit that suffers the most when it gets shoved into the fucking blender here
Starting point is 02:02:47 and yeah just like good good luck aspire good stuff just PS2 version of DSX is actually weirdly weirdly good has too many load screens but like it's it's like it's like complete in the meantime on the complete other end of the spectrum
Starting point is 02:03:17 when we get to the best looking prettiest future of video games ever right we get to our our GTA 6 and hey fun stuff 30 to 40 layoffs
Starting point is 02:03:32 for people trying to join a union yeah that's about right so hey do you want to you want to incentivize everyone to understand why you need to join a union
Starting point is 02:03:44 let's fire people for talking so yeah Rockstar fired, laid off between 30 and 40 employees across Canada and the UK and the independent workers union of Great Britain and so on or basically people are looking and reporting that this seems to be 100% based on the fact that they were fired for union activity either joining or attempting to join. So, you know, they're currently fighting that and seeing what's possible.
Starting point is 02:04:22 And, you know, unsurprising. And then take two, parent company just doubles down to officially reased a statement. Fuck yeah. Fuck yeah. Fire them. Get them out of here. We love this shit. It rules.
Starting point is 02:04:35 We fully support rock stars ambitions and approach. So, you know, um, it's stuff. You have to imagine, um, the, the higher up the parent company in the chain, the, the more rock solid turgid they get. at the cleansing of of union employees, you know.
Starting point is 02:04:58 That's a direct quote. Yep. You tune in for news and you get direct quotes for me. That's how that works. Absolutely. There's a story here and it reads, Amazon have reportedly canceled their Lord of the Rings MMO again.
Starting point is 02:05:15 And I went, but wait, wasn't that already canceled? Yes. And then I go, when did it? it, yeah, you know, what, what, what, what, what, what happened? Um, what happened is, is that Amazon gaming is, um, is deciding that, uh, is deciding that, uh, maybe throwing all that money on a bunch of games that never come out or come out and there piles of shit and don't make any money is maybe a bad idea.
Starting point is 02:05:54 and I would like to, I need to find out the, I need the quote here from the VP of, where is it? Well, the vice president of, aha, here it is. This is eight months ago from Ethan Evans. Well, I think we talked about it then, but it bears repeating. As VP of Prime Gaming and at Amazon, we failed multiple times to disrupt. the game platform Steam. Oh, did you not disrupt? Did disruption fail, did it?
Starting point is 02:06:31 We were at least 250 times bigger. And we tried everything. Ultimately, Goliath lost. Here's why. He basically goes on and on and on and on and on about how they never actually figured out why people use Steam during the entire process. And a bunch of people have gone back to this post and keep rereading it and going, I didn't know that you could even buy games off of Prime Gaming on Amazon.
Starting point is 02:06:59 And it's like it's the largest online storefront in the world. How is there not a buy video games button at the top of the tab? How were you, you were competing with Steam? Nobody knew. Nobody knew. What the? Because at that size, nothing smoothly rolls out.
Starting point is 02:07:19 No one's paying attention to anything. This guy is also like a real piece. piece of work. He also put out a bunch of other tweets about how like I once got to a fight with my boss and then he cucked me with my wife and then fired me so learn from my mistakes. And I'm like, how about I don't learn
Starting point is 02:07:35 from you guy who got cucked into the unemployment line VP of gaming and Amazon? Was that like a TED talk or like what like? No, it was just a tweet that he threw out. All right. Why would I listen to you? What do you got to offer
Starting point is 02:07:51 anybody, man? Um, uh, like, does that philosophy extend into the business decisions that are made from day to day? I don't know. I don't know. I don't fucking. I don't know. In fact, like, that, you know what? I'm going to take. I'm going to, I'm going to shoot wide on this. There's an entire genre of I fucked up my life. Let me give you advice. How about I don't listen to you at all? Because you're an idiot. You fucked up your life. Um, why would I listen to you? I'm going the other way on this. I'm going, I'm going business cucking is like, hey, jokes on you. My shit's failing and I'm into that shit. I'm sitting in the chair as these projects are shutting down. I'm shortening this chair.
Starting point is 02:08:45 You're watching, you're watching the stonks drop into the, into the abyss and you're just jorking it. You're getting super fucking turgid off of those red lines. What is this like, like solo, Finder, Fendombing yourself. But you're watching as like the stonks are hurting everybody else and you're just, yeah, you're getting way on board, you know?
Starting point is 02:09:09 Go shit your pants in a subway or something. Just fucking just Oh, get all these freaks out of the fucking economy, please. Just stop. Business cucks. That's new shit. Don't write that down. Don't write that down. You can't tell. You can't tell.
Starting point is 02:09:25 You can't tell by my hands. Put that in the title. You don't know what my hands are. When my hands do this, you don't know what's happening. Stop assuming. You don't know what I can't. You can't tell what I'm typing. How dare you assume?
Starting point is 02:09:40 That's crazy. As you hear my voice absentmindedly wander as I end the sounds of clicking. There's a really fun, there's a really fun experience of like doing like the podcast. this way because like you'll say something and you'll see my eyes dot over and you're obviously looking up what you just told me it's like it's like the therapist with the notepad going yes you know what are you writing what are you writing what are you writing drawing dicks actually really really detailed um no it's it's it's important you know and and i was going to say that the baseline to remember is that like
Starting point is 02:10:26 This company launched the Luna. So every decision that makes more sense than that, like this is as this is their baseline, you know? And I don't think he's ever going to get us turned on as that level of failure ever again. So it's all unfortunately downhill from here. But maybe that downhill is uphill, you know? I remember, like, the Luna was such a failure that I had to get like, like first impressions from like
Starting point is 02:10:59 the one guy in chat well like I couldn't even find stadium we tracked down there were people that got hands on stadia yeah Luna just didn't exist lunatics claimed to be real but
Starting point is 02:11:15 anyways um all right so yeah the the detail I missed there was that the in in 2023 um the Lord of the Rings MMO was restarted development with 10 cent, but Okay.
Starting point is 02:11:30 Yeah, so there you go. I'm going to tell you this right now is somebody who's played a fair number of MMOs. Lord of the Rings, not a good setting. Middle Earth? Highly limited setting. It is a highly limiting setting. Yeah? You wouldn't,
Starting point is 02:11:44 Middle Earth, bad setting for an MMO? It's not a good setting. It's just not. If anything, I'm kind of just wondering, like, have Warner not scraped every aspect of everything that can be a game out of that world already
Starting point is 02:12:03 you know have like when they were holding the exclusive rights I feel like they went for it aggressively over and over again. Yeah? You want to talk about aggressive monetization? I have a typing game for you to play right now. Are you ready? Are you at your computer? I would like you to try and go by Lord of the Rings the War for the North
Starting point is 02:12:28 the real time strategy game. I would like you to give that a shot. The War for the North, 2011 we're talking about oh my God, snow blind. I went to that studio. It's a good game by the way. It's a pretty good game. Yeah, I went to Seattle and did QA for them in-house for Justice League Heroes.
Starting point is 02:12:53 Yeah, Hey, guess what? It's a trick goal. You can't buy it. It's literally just not available. Can't buy it. Good-ass licensed RPG. Just can't buy it.
Starting point is 02:13:10 No longer available in the Steam store, but there is a Steam page. Isn't that great? The top link leads you to a community discussion page. Which has the top post, which is just the guy going, wish I could get this. Damn. Seems fun. Maybe you should make MMOs with licenses you actually own, huh? Could you imagine if like World of Warcraft or Final Fantasy 14 was just like,
Starting point is 02:13:50 doodle rights licensing issue, service will end in one year? Like it's like, could you fucking imagine? Well, look, speaking of service ending, um, unlikely hero Concord came up this week because, uh, for all its time as a punchline, Concord is actually contextually heroic because it gets brought up in a UK government debate on video game consumer laws. And, um,
Starting point is 02:14:23 the actual quote was that, I'm going to skip past all the bullshit there. Concord is one of the few games that actually refunded everybody and that's true. That is true. And they get that. They get an add-a-boy. They get
Starting point is 02:14:45 for doing that. A recent example is Concord released for the PS5 and Windows in August 2024. Following a disappointing launch, Sony made a commercial decision to shut a town. But to their credit, they did refund all purchases, but this isn't always the case, which they'll go on to then discuss when games can steal people's money shut down and then not give them back their cash, right?
Starting point is 02:15:08 Yeah. So that bare minimum is now a high bar that we're reaching for. So everyone think back fondly and play, I will remember you in your head. As you think about a character from that game, think about them in your head, think about them, you got it? What's their name? What's the character name? No Googling.
Starting point is 02:15:34 Yeah, that's what I thought. Anyways. Um... Hey, what's up? Beyond that. There's a... The Nintendo versus Pal World War.
Starting point is 02:16:02 That's gone to an interesting fucking place. Is heating up? It's heating up. Things are continuing. The Japanese patent office has responded to Nintendo's claim and gone, are you fucking for real, dog? Are you serious with this? Apparently, the one of their patent submissions that was used as groundwork for the case was not actually fully accepted when the case started. And the patent office then came back and essentially rejected the idea that monster capture was.
Starting point is 02:16:35 originally theirs because it's way too broad. It's ubiquitous and predates Pokemon. And then they give examples of that as well. So this is not going well for Nintendo. They give prior examples of monster capture in third-party games, including Ark, Monster Hunter, 4, a browser game called Kantai Collection
Starting point is 02:17:05 Pokemon Go and pocket pairs Craftopia Yeah they seem kind of fucked on this that they're going after Power World
Starting point is 02:17:14 but they didn't go after Craftopia despite the fact that it has all that shit in it oh oopsie oopsie you fucks so but at the same time
Starting point is 02:17:23 it's like it's not a standing rejection in the sense that like this can progress and go on so it's a whole complicated thing with the way the patent office works but overall, um,
Starting point is 02:17:33 little, little twists. Um, and then Chaser is, uh, according to a Japanese attorney commenting on the case, uh, legal expert spec specs that,
Starting point is 02:17:50 um, Nintendo might not be able to recoup legal expenses of the lawsuit, even if it wins. Oh, wow. Interesting. So, um,
Starting point is 02:17:58 yeah, it might just, it's, it might just, be fucky-wucky all the way around, no matter what the results are at this point. Good job, Nintendo. I'm glad you're wasting everyone's fucking time with this. It's interesting because it does sound like you have your legal team pushing out the lawsuit in one direction and scribbling on patents on the other side and pushing those to get those approved
Starting point is 02:18:25 at the same time and then pointing at them and going, look, look, see. Ridiculous Um Yeah only other thing Just in terms of some fighting game shit that was going on A 14 year old won The Street Fighter 6 major this weekend That crazy
Starting point is 02:18:50 Now from reject youth A 14 year old with two years of gaming experience Only 11 months playing the game won the Capcom Cup qualifier and has a slot at Capcom Cup that's crazy which is nuts
Starting point is 02:19:08 good for them yeah and you know we used to talk about like oh you know like I mean Justin has talked about this many times but just like yeah like teenage reactions in the arcade nothing can beat that if you're over if you're over 30 what are you doing just drive impact they can't stop it they can't react to that shit you know
Starting point is 02:19:27 um but right before that, Blas, who got second place at Capcom Cup 11, was 15 years old. So, like, the children are coming online, they're looking at all the tech, and they're becoming aware
Starting point is 02:19:44 within a matter of months, you know? They're getting stronger. They have all the, they have all the reflexes and power that they always did, but now the data is there. You know, and all they need is, like, a cousin that just watches, like,
Starting point is 02:19:58 tournaments to just pull them aside and be like, yo, fucking run this, do this. They just run sets with somebody who's really good. And it's over. On top of that, the Kakiru, who won first place against Blas, the 15-year-old, just retired. Unfortunately as well. So, you know, that's one of those things where
Starting point is 02:20:21 hate to hear about that for health reasons. but it's it's kind of crazy just seeing like the amount of new younger kids born in 2011. What's his kids name? He now? I am watching them just stomp Tokito. Oh yeah. Like Ryu and Luke player beats Tokito, beats Tokito, beats Punk, wins the event. born yeah born in
Starting point is 02:20:59 Checks notes 2011 you came man you ever hear about fucking Skyrim it's pretty good came came into existence
Starting point is 02:21:14 as we were starting to do YouTube that that child is a dark souls old one best friends channel old that's it that's weird The career.
Starting point is 02:21:27 The career, that was life. And here we are. Yeah. Oh, no. Yep. Yep. Um, oh my God. What's up?
Starting point is 02:21:39 Child did not exist before Street Fighter 4. Of course not. Oh. Oh. Fuck. It's only going to get worse from here. So. You never even had a chance to be an O-Niner.
Starting point is 02:22:00 So, Wully, I, I, I, you know, we have babies now. We have, we are our little baby children who are tiny versions of ourselves. And, um, and, uh, we're both into games quite a lot.
Starting point is 02:22:13 And, uh, I played some Atari as a child, but mainly in NES onwards. And, um, uh, we occupy in our age range, um, uh, the same position that your grandpa did,
Starting point is 02:22:27 who was there when movies got talking in them. just there from the beginning and saw every movie that has ever made come out in a theater when did the talkies start oh talkies started in the 1920s 1926 and 1930 yeah okay I've seen all those things of like here is when color TVs switched to color all around the world in different places Fuck me Like you're there at the beginning
Starting point is 02:23:09 And so you know your daughter will be like 10 11 12 and she'll be like wow It's weird you know about like all the video games That have ever come out and you'll be like yeah they were invented when I was born I think no I think the big one The big one is going to be internet being the last generation that's pre internet Yeah Oh yeah
Starting point is 02:23:30 Nobody knows what it's going to be like to be offline, you know, beyond us. Like, that's going to be it. How'd your mom, how'd your mom get a hold of you when you, when you went to the, the movies?
Starting point is 02:23:43 Oh, I just wandered around for hours. And they just hoped I didn't get a kidnapped and killed, I guess. That was curfew. We had, you had a curfew that said,
Starting point is 02:23:54 be back by this time where you got in trouble. End of, that was it. Yeah. Anyway. I also just a little side note on soul death there, but just chatting with Reggie about the fact that the hype could not maintain long enough so that by the time Chunli dropped in City of the Wolves, he would not even get to play her because it just, it fizzled. That fucking, that's brutal. Imagine looking and seeing a character that you want to show up in something. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 02:24:33 Sorry, Chunley got announced for City of the Wolves. Yeah? Fatal Fury. Okay. Is she in that? Yeah, she's in. She's in. Chunley, Chunley, they showed a trailer.
Starting point is 02:24:45 When did that happen? That happened like yesterday. Bro, I didn't even see that. Okay, sorry, sorry. That's crazy. Sorry. Yeah, and they did the big Chunley, my, hey, look, the boobies, you know, she's thick. That's crazy.
Starting point is 02:25:02 didn't even see that. Oh, that's like it's own. And it's just, it's like, like, you can see in the future. It's like your main,
Starting point is 02:25:11 the character you love is here, but will, will it last until that point? No, no, no. Anyways. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 02:25:26 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't even get me started on the fucking Sam show money. they're like like uh sam show money they're like okay this year was a crazy like
Starting point is 02:25:37 ah sam shows on its way out it's gonna have one last crazy hurrah with 1.5 million dollars attached to it and then they're like next year it's coming back and there's going to be a 4.5 million dollar price pool and it's just like oh my god for who? Oh my god
Starting point is 02:25:53 like the six guys and you yeah all right well go get a million dollars not if I got a fucking lie there to do it. I don't know. Anyway, let's take some letters.
Starting point is 02:26:12 Hey, before we take it, fuck it, I don't even care. You want to send in some letters. Go send it to Castle Super Beastmail at gmail.com. That's Castle Superbeastmail. I love it. Love that.
Starting point is 02:26:29 All right. let's see here alright a guy from Finland asks dear fathers of Patrickson and Woolly Daughter Hey what's up
Starting point is 02:26:48 That is kind of the naming convention That is crazy out there Longtime listener First Time questioner Any favorite examples of questions That could have gone unanswered For example In Mass Effect
Starting point is 02:27:00 What do Quarians look like without a mask No need No need to answer it that that's the one you that's the one that's like you ruined your email in concept yep that's by picking the most perfect example master chief et cetera comes after that you know but anyone who wears a mask all the time should not take it off mm-hmm you should get at best like like a like a shot of them putting on the mask like you know the Darth Vader shot where you see the back of his head's all fucked up but then he puts the mask on and
Starting point is 02:27:35 Samis doesn't apply because you could see her face from day one, but it was all pixelated in whatever, you know, but that was always there. So she works. Anyone with a mask? 100%. I think a huge, huge proportion of mysteries that get answered
Starting point is 02:27:55 in all fiction should just not be answered at all. As time goes on, the urge is too strong to just, the gaps. Like, like, oh, here's the answer.
Starting point is 02:28:11 Oh, and like 90% of the time, the answer sucks. Uh, I got one. How many loads did Hey Hatchie drop? In, infertile
Starting point is 02:28:25 young woman across the world. Uh, and Harada has, has answered that to say, uh, no fewer than 18. you didn't need you didn't need to answer that well it's been like yeah you got around just say you got
Starting point is 02:28:44 around we well well no no we know that there are at least 19 that's weird bastard children enough you know what for the entire franchise to carry forward indefinitely all right fuck it tech and nine let's go all you okay well i'm gonna go for a deep pull do you remember the need for speed series okay Okay. You remember how Need for Speed did not feature Porsches for a while for some fucking reason. I think they were missing from four. Okay. But then for Need for Speed five, I think it was, they got the Porsche license. And it was all Porsche.
Starting point is 02:29:22 And it was fucking stupid, right? Tech and Nine. Battle of the bastards. All mischiments. All of them. Battle of the bastards. Nothing but. Doria. Uh, yeah. Yep.
Starting point is 02:29:32 totally. Um. And I mean, the age ranges are like massive and all the way across. But, you know, I'm sure there's a four year old in there that's got a little bit of electricity. Bro? How old's Hayhachi? He's pretty fucking old, right? Infinity.
Starting point is 02:29:48 Yeah. Okay. So you know what? You want to do Hayhachi Machima is dead? Here comes. Hey, Hachi, too. Just actually, he had this kid first before Kasia. His hair balded in the same way?
Starting point is 02:30:04 It's crazy. It's like the same guy. Hey Hachie. Just a little younger. Hey Hatchie had a teenage pregnancy. Right? Wait, what? Hey Hachi had a teenage.
Starting point is 02:30:15 No, no, no. Like, you know, like, you know, like pregnant teens? Like, like when that happens on whatever TV shows. So him, him and some other girl back in school, just that they got pregnant young. And so there's a really, there's another Hay Hachie that's not that far from his age. And he looks like he did in Tekken 3. He's that old. Okay, there.
Starting point is 02:30:33 Yep. Yep. also unanswered questions that got answered apparently there's more than one ogre there are ogres on every continent actually so yeah there's meadizzo confirms that there is an ogre for every continent
Starting point is 02:30:56 ogres all around aren't even real continents aren't even real the spirit knows where the lines are drawn The spirit knows that Australia over there, we consider it to be its own thing. Continent aren't even real. They're political designations. And if Australia ever joined any other union, then that ogre would cease to be. There's many ogres.
Starting point is 02:31:29 Here comes me at a zo. I just want my Aztec fighter man. it's not that hard. Apparently it's super hard. Apparently it's really hard. It's crazy. As Tech Fighter has like the worst track record of almost any archetype ever. Absolutely bad shit.
Starting point is 02:31:48 They either job or they just never or they can't show up again or when they do here you go. I mean, Nikali got like like Game of Thrones season ending memory hold. Like Nikali might as well be erased from history. I'm not
Starting point is 02:32:04 against. Here's the, I'm not even against. the Wifu reboot characters because hey Aki's great right we love her
Starting point is 02:32:13 she's cool I would like to hold up my hand and only say that I am against Tekken's
Starting point is 02:32:20 Wifu reboot characters okay specifically fair if you if you made if you made a
Starting point is 02:32:28 Tekken lady yeah that looked different at all yeah then Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 02:32:37 But also with the asterisk, Acky is great because we had to deal with Fang and get used to that. Yeah, but Acky's all kind of super weird and unique. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. And similarly, now I'm like, yeah, Rufus, let's go. Right? I'll never, I will never be there.
Starting point is 02:32:57 No, I'm like, you know what? You got a big, you got a big fat guy, let's do it. I also like Bob. I think he's cool, the Samo Hong type. You know? Like Bob is way cooler as far as a fact fighter goes. But like if you were to like, if you were to lean into that and bring that back now, it would, it would be unique. It would be different.
Starting point is 02:33:19 All this to say that an ogre for every, an ogre for every continent, according to the UN is not what anyone asked for. Yeah, no, if you're going to reveal some secret piece of information. you have to kill it. You have to app. It has to be like solid, like rock solid. If it's anything other than like the best reveal ever, then just fucking let it be a mystery. What are the reapers in in fucking Master of Act? It's just as bad as what Aquarian looks like.
Starting point is 02:33:59 It's just as bad. Okay. Mass Effect as a whole is that issue because. all these amazing questions in part one. And then you... I answered them and it's boring. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:34:16 I mean, at least you never actually go to the fucking Volus planet or the, um, what do you call it? Uh, the Volus and the, uh, the tall, the tall guys. What are they called again? The, um, the Alcor. The Alcor. At least you never go see it and they don't fuck up that conversation.
Starting point is 02:34:34 You know? But Jesus. Like, I'm sure somewhere on the cutting room floor, the Elkhore planet was like a potential scene that was removed. You know what? I'm going to expand what I'm saying. And Mass Effect's a really good example. So when you don't know anything and things aren't well defined, your setting is infinite.
Starting point is 02:34:56 And I think mass effects are really incredible example of what happens when you just make decisions that artificially limit the types of places, things, and characters that can exist. in your setting. Like every single piece of information you learn in Mass Effect 2 and 3 violently limits the scope of the setting. I just want to clarify that when I'm talking about the Volus Gas Fart Homeworld, etc. As a concept to go visit that place,
Starting point is 02:35:27 now that I have completed that trilogy and know the limitations of what they were doing and how that would have been fucked up and probably sucked, I'd rather not go. Yeah. It would not have been good. It would have sucked. It's better to not. The Elkhore home world could be the coolest place ever, but it'll never live up to the implication.
Starting point is 02:35:46 The conversation. Because now that we know that everything that they built up in the first game cannot be lived up to, I don't want to see it anymore. If they delivered on anything that was cool, you know, at all, then yes. But in concept, it's never going to match that conversation because, nothing else did. It's a really interesting situation because like there's a really old fashioned
Starting point is 02:36:11 entertainment adage that works really well for games and movies which is make sure to leave them wanting more. Yeah. I like that's kind of the the peak of it. You know and like nothing
Starting point is 02:36:27 is as cool as like the auto completed details that your brain fills in the blanks with. Man I was it was so crazy to like come at come out the other end of this mass effect trilogy and then realize that like those exact points of like highlight that were so sick about the setting in the original were what everyone all kind of thought were the best parts too and it's yeah um it's it's it's like um it's almost like in metal gear when it was like coming out the other side of four and realizing
Starting point is 02:37:01 that like oh yeah no the boss is the best thing ever and we all agreed and that's why the lore got all fucked up, you know, same thing, except in the opposite sense because you just, you can't possibly live up to what you set up there, you know, and whatever, writers and all the complications of schedules aside, you know,
Starting point is 02:37:20 I mean, Metal Gear is a really good example because you and I spent hours and hours and hours and hours discussing parts of the plot, and then MGS4 came out. It was like, hey, guess what? Here's the answer to every question you had, and it's the same answer to every question you had, and it's wildly unsatisfying.
Starting point is 02:37:35 But Kojima was at the mantle for every one of those projects. At no point did some guest director step in and be like, I'm taking over and redirecting Kojima's vision here. You know what? I have the ultimate. I have the absolute best example of questions that should not have been answered. I don't think anything will top this. I think that that fucking
Starting point is 02:38:07 Evangelian PS2 game should have not included all that fucking super detailed background on what the fucking angels are on what the fucking black egg is or any of that fucking shit because none of that shit matters. The ancient race.
Starting point is 02:38:27 None of that shit matters. The ancient race and the moons and Adam and Eve. suck. Oh, the lore, lore, that deep, deep, deep shit. None of that shit matters to the story Ava is telling. No one knows about that shit either. You got a wiki dive. You and me fucking know about that shit. You got a wiki dive hard. Yeah. Okay. So the progenitor race and every detail of Ava, all, they're out there if you're willing to go scrape for it and find out exactly what angels sucks, dude. And it's terrible.
Starting point is 02:39:07 Like what the angels are, why they're here, why we're here, what the geo front is, all that shit, fucking terrible. You're not, you, the viewer, are not supposed to know. Gendo's supposed to know and Fyutski's supposed to know and Fyutski's supposed to know and maybe some of the Sayleigh guys. But the context and perspective of Evangelion is that of characters who, are cut out of the loop and not prepared to deal with it. It is actively harmful to that television show and movies narrative to know any of that shit. But because it happens after the thing is done and exists in the form of this random fucking wiki dive, I kind of like, it doesn't feel like real. It's just information coming after so you can just not care.
Starting point is 02:40:00 Like it doesn't bother me as much to have that expounded upon after the fact, you know, versus finding out about midichlorians midway through your prequel. I would burn the PS2 Dead Sea Scrolls if I had access to them. Yeah, I just, it's the method of delivery doesn't bother me. So I'm fine with it. Oh, no, it's not the method. I don't think that information should exist for you or I at all. I think the only thing it can do is hurt the story. What do you think about when like there's notes, liner notes for like a story that a director has in like an art book or something that like solve or explain something that was never shown?
Starting point is 02:40:50 I I would put that along the lines of guy who wrote the soprano accidentally spoiling the ending. David Chase, yeah. Because, because for example, we pretty much know exactly what went down with Nero the first time with that arm change moment, especially with their novels and all that other stuff.
Starting point is 02:41:09 And then the whole body, and then the DT form in the art book that was never used from back then, etc. But if you're just going off what the game tells you, it's a couple lines and then it's dead and whatever. Who knows? Cutting room floor, you know?
Starting point is 02:41:24 Yeah. There's just something about it where it's like, it comes afterwards in a fucking deep art book, thus I'm impervious to it. And I'm saying this as the person who went into the lore of the patchy slot guilty gear to find out about soul and sins assault on the, the mages. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:41:46 To find out about the true nature of Izuna and what happened truly the first time the man entered the backyard. Only if you play overture can you find this. information out. But who cares? Dual one let's rock. I have
Starting point is 02:42:03 as I have gotten older part of the thing that I've realized I've been doing is I've been focusing more on like the emotional through line of a story
Starting point is 02:42:14 and it's thematic core rather than but how did that guy get there? Where'd that alien ship come from? And like at the end of the day like a lot of that shit
Starting point is 02:42:26 like doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. I don't always hate it, but it just depends on how it's executed. It depends on the type of setting. Yeah. Yeah. You know, like sometimes you can pull the camera back, go somewhere else, follow someone else during a thing.
Starting point is 02:42:45 And it's like, oh, that's interesting. You know, what was going on over here? Or what's the lore on that and what's this or, you know, whatever, whatever the case is. But then there's an extent to which you can exhaust that. And I'd say, uh, fucking Gundam, you see the one year war where it's like, okay, there are good one year war stories and there are bad ones. And then there are just so many that like you can do a Jack Bauer 24 style. It was a big war. But you have so many perspectives of what happened at this point because they're just, there's always one more story that took place during that year.
Starting point is 02:43:23 Did you know that the one year war actually happened across a lot of places? and there were a lot of fights. And do you know at the end of the day? That there were some cool robots. Also... I don't know what else the rest of Gundams trying to say, but I do know that there are some cool robots. Also, one year is relative and space is large.
Starting point is 02:43:48 Therefore, space and time can really mean that things can last. Anyway, that's not true. The one year designation in almost every sci-fi universe is like. always one solar year. From one terran year or whatever you want to call it. Whatever you want it. Yes. Well, you see. Universal Century using the actual timeline.
Starting point is 02:44:08 Yeah. In any case. Yeah. No. And then somewhere between those cool robots, we get a hot boy band. We get lesbians and all kinds of other cool shit going on. You know, do you remember
Starting point is 02:44:23 the Batman film The Dark Night? probably pretty well because that was a pretty big movie and I'm sure we both watched it a bunch of times. Oh, multiple. It was great. So when Joker's in the parade and Bruce Wayne is
Starting point is 02:44:38 sneaking around through the the fucking apartment that has like the fake rifle in it right that he was only able to find by reconstructing the bullets and all that shit and like there's a trap
Starting point is 02:44:56 waiting for him, despite how could Joker have known that he was going to be there? Wouldn't it have been so much more interesting if we had a scene in which Joker explains his plan for how he knew Batman was going to show up to that apartment? Wouldn't that have been so much more interesting? Like, no, wouldn't have. The way more interesting thing is like he didn't. He just assumed someone would find it. So the ultimate version of that,
Starting point is 02:45:26 is what if we followed Dio's point of view? Oh, yeah! I've seen animated videos. Could you imagine? Like, I'm like all the way across from running down that staircase and replacing Poldareff to just giggling on the way back up. Right? And then just twirling of Poochie's hair and then just hang it out in bed.
Starting point is 02:45:56 And then, oh, okay, hold on. Time for me to run around and plant some beads, right? Okay. And now we got to grab some woman. And now we got just. It's deeply unsurious. Dio's journal from day to day is absolutely cloud shoes. You know, but boy, oh boy, there's something deep inside of me that wants to see it.
Starting point is 02:46:22 I want to know every day what life was like. out. Dio's big day. Dio's big century. He's a busy man. And he fucks. A lot. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:46:39 You know, now I got to go to Italy for a while. You know? At what point does he realize that he's with Jonathan's body that like, you know, he still got
Starting point is 02:46:56 uh, He's got little Jonathan sperm with little Deo hair on it. Like, at what point does he realize
Starting point is 02:47:06 that there's a that you could use someone else's body to, it's the fucking gayest shit that's ever, it's so fucking, like, I never,
Starting point is 02:47:17 like, I just like, oh, I'm using his body to impregnate people and create new men. Like, oh,
Starting point is 02:47:23 my fucking God, dude. Jesus, fucking Christ. if you want to ship Dehio and Jonathan together I mean yeah
Starting point is 02:47:34 all right um no that's I hey Iraqi you're doing it um
Starting point is 02:47:46 anyway they wrote a book about Dio and they still there still isn't enough time to cover what the fuck he's up to from his point of view all right that'll do fucking so stupid that he lost like every piece of
Starting point is 02:48:00 information you add to Dio's like big day is like what you could have had like a thousand stand users attack the Star-ness Crusaders all at once I mean he traveled the world strategically
Starting point is 02:48:16 making stand users and not only with the fucking arrow but finding the natural born ones as well and convincing them to join him some by seed and by the bud others with just charisma and sex.
Starting point is 02:48:32 And some were just like down with it right away. Right away. Absolutely. My horse was like, yeah, sure. Fuck it. You know, while again, planting seeds, while knocking people up, just worldwide, all day, every day, nonstop, and still having time to pose when the fly is next to him and then, and he's, you know, still has time. All right. All right. All right. Listen. and Pucci,
Starting point is 02:49:00 I know we got to twirl hairs and I got all these people to impregnate and Bud and all that. But Polner F's almost back up to the top of the staircase. Can you give me five seconds? Okay? I need to put them all over my shoulder.
Starting point is 02:49:16 And it's my favorite part about this. This is my favorite part. It's a really long staircase. So he has to do the whole staircase in two and a half seconds. All the way. Like he has to to be sprinting his shit off.
Starting point is 02:49:30 Because he doesn't have nine seconds yet. And he doesn't have nine seconds yet. He's got to resume. He's got to mark an X and know exactly where to return to. A million percent. You know, um, he's got to put fucking minions' heads on dogs to make sure that they could bark and talk and yak five seconds. Like really fast. Like he's
Starting point is 02:49:52 sweating. He's like he's waiting at tables. And a party at 20 just came in. energy. It's the best. It's the fucking best. All right. That'll do. Have a good week, everybody. Be safe.

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