Castle Super Beast - Csb350 Secret Chinese Are Vulnerable To Electric

Episode Date: January 11, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:36 Yo, yo. Hey, dude. I feel like this is a... Yeah. Well, no, after you. You got something for... I feel like this is a busy week, so where you want to start? It is a busy week.
Starting point is 00:00:46 All right, first up, if you don't want to get spoiled on the game awards, you're going to want to bail now. Oh, okay, if you don't want to get spoiled on promotional marketing material. On the promotional marketing material, you're going to definitely want to bail right the fuck now. Okay. Because we're going to be talking about that shit. You want to talk about the, yeah, okay. Yeah, we're going to talk about that stuff.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Leaky Fawcett's. There's many leaks happening right now. Has Capcom ever, ever, ever, on a single project that people care about not had a major leak? I'm thinking really hard about it. I think Capcom is the worst. Okay. We have a problem, though, admittedly. So here's the problem.
Starting point is 00:01:33 We find out stuff through. talking to people. Sometimes. And that's so, so there's a false impression of knowing things ahead of time that comes from most of the things they put out.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Yeah, but I, I feel like I, yeah, out, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like,
Starting point is 00:01:49 way out there all the time. Way out there all the time. And, uh, boy, I guess you're not talking about big resident evil game spoilers, but you're talking about spoilers,
Starting point is 00:02:03 for whatever the fuck was coming up on Thursday. you know, promotion-wise. Promotional material. Oh, Sony, but we'll get to that in a second. Okay. How's your week been, wolves? What have you been up to? Nuts. Lots, lots going on.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Had a big week. Had things. Turned 40. That happened. How's your back? Yeah. Are you tiptoeing around the house? I mean, the feeling, the feeling is that like it should be happening any minute now.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Any minute now, you're just going to give it. up. You're going to feel that one crack and that's the one. That'll be there forever. Congratulations. Thank you. That being said, that's this coming year for me and I got to say, man,
Starting point is 00:02:50 birthdays seem really quaint, like, sorry, your own birthday seems really quaint once you start counting someone else's birthday. Because that is the new timer for how everything in your life is going.
Starting point is 00:03:06 So you just, you just hit the end of my bit. You literally just got to the conclusion of, of, I just skipped right ahead. You skipped right to it, right? Because, um, basically, uh, what happened was, um, Punch Mom was really cool and had this very, uh, elaborate, you know, sort of set up. And, um, you know, over the years, we've had a, like, yeah, there was a, there's, there's been a, a war of trying to bring, give quality gifts and stuff over time. And I feel a couple times like I've done some pretty big moves. And I'm like, okay, let me pat myself on the back for how that went.
Starting point is 00:03:47 But she blew me out of the water completely this year with this insane multi-part journey through each decade of my life with a specific gift from that era associated with it. And a letter as well from this whole thing. And it was like, holy shit, you know. And yeah, like, I mean, I kind of walked through it on the, on the chill stream yesterday, but, but like there was a, um, I talked about the, when we went to Grenada and went fishing for the presence or whatever and all that, we never got a, a working Lego boat from that thing because it wasn't really Lego. She got the Lego boat from my kid childhood. She tracked that from my teens. She tracked out a reboot hexadecimal figure. Um, she got some limited edition. Canba buttons for the fight stick years and this whole thing made a mixtape for the 30s of the soundtrack of basically us dating and every place we went and all the things we did with a little audio cassette. It's so cute. And then for the 40s, you know, as I've been talking about, okay, time to ride this roller coaster down the hill and off a cliff because that's it. That's all we do from now on. Your life is now a footnote in someone else's much better, more important life. So she got a book that is basically a custom kids book, basically that's like happy birthday dad from baby name.
Starting point is 00:05:21 And then the artwork in the book is of us, like in little cartoon format. And it really looks like me and her and basically we're just going on adventures. And it's something to read to her in the future. and it fucking annihilated me, of course. That was a critical hit. Just, you know, my heart in pink mist, if you would. And like that's the kind of moment where you go, yeah, it's not my 40s to my 50s. It's her zero to 10.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Yeah, absolutely. And that's it. That's the camera shifts perspective. You know, thank you, Assassin's Creed. Like, I feel like when I think about it. And someone was like, oh, how old are you? I'm like, I have a two-year-old. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:06:09 There you go. There you go. Just answer that question. Exactly. Good answer. Good answer. Yeah. No, so she landed the instant kill.
Starting point is 00:06:16 And that's just the fucking... It was really sweet. Because I don't know. I assume... Because there was a lot of stuff that I didn't see. But we spoke briefly, like, over a month ago. And she was just running, like, this massive screening data on, like, I need details from all the parts that I didn't exist.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Where was this? Who was that? What was this? Yes, I found out as well she went and started talking to people and did some digging behind the scenes as well to get some of that accurate information to the point where one of the letters is like, yeah, using 3D Studio 4 on DOS back in the day as your first 3D software. And I'm like, Jesus Christ, man. What the fuck? Incredible. I'm just absolutely floored by that. And, um, hey, guess what? When, when my back blows out, you know, of age. When? When? I know she didn't say if. Yes. Of age, not of, you know, loss and exposure. Because that's the, you can get your back, your back blown out, you know, for just getting exposed. Good reasons. Good reasons. But, uh, no, from this point forward, it's like, that's okay. We got the camera. over there, you know?
Starting point is 00:07:35 We, the, the, the, we, we, we, we, we do the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the Avengers'cred camera shift and, whatever happens from me in the background, that's fine from now on. So, so, like, uh, I mean, okay, so, like, nowadays, but people think of the, the, the, the, the Avengers, you know, version, but, but, like, I think of the saving private Ryan guy, getting old. Oh, yeah. Okay, there's that. There's, yeah, there's saving private Ryan, but then,
Starting point is 00:08:09 but I mean, for me, the classic is always Indiana Jones because, like, you get to turn into the skeleton and then you become dust. Like, it's the full thing. It's not, that's faster. That's real fast. Like, Peter Parker got snapped and was like, I'm young and I'm hot, and now I'm gone. Oh, no, but no, you need to go all the way to old age, then become a skeleton, then get dusted, you know? Um, anyway, so, uh, that was a whole lot of fun. Um, and then, uh, so this weekend was kind of nuts too, because, uh, essentially, and this is going to segue right into, you know, some, some, some Vigia games. But, uh, it was token. Uh, the beta was happening and I was like, or alpha. And I was like, oh, okay, that's cool. Good, good chance to check it out. Now the people are allowed to play into Tocon. the end of this.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Yep. I don't like the official PlayStation sign up for the beta system thing. It just feels... I really don't like it. It feels like you did nothing. It feels like you didn't register at all.
Starting point is 00:09:17 You don't even know whether... And they're like... Make sure to register and you click on the link and it goes, here's how to register. And there's nothing on the page because you've already registered. Super weird. But it doesn't tell you that you registered.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Yeah. But being on the page makes it so that you're... It's really fucking awful. don't like it. Did not like that. So anyway, everyone got in this time and there you go. That's great. So the plan was like, hey, let's, let me jump on and see what this is like over getting to fighting games. Shoutouts to one Kyle Battett Games, the local air dashers streamrunner and T.O. Who was like, hey, well, you know, why don't you pop over to my place? And actually, I'm going to have a setup so that people can play locally together. So we'll have two PS5s and then we'll just go meet up
Starting point is 00:10:03 in a random server and then we'll just be able to play the equivalent of a versus offline match, but using the beta, you know. So that's happened before as well. And then he was like, okay, cool. That's perfect timing because something I was thinking about during the break when I was off and I spoke to Reggie and Min about it was like, I want to do a special get into fighting games type of show. I have for fun, for glory, for fuck's sake, for girls.
Starting point is 00:10:32 we did, you know, all these different variants. And so I wanted to have one that was like for locals, you know. And it was, yeah, get into locals, not locals, X, Y, Z near you, hot and single, but for your local fighting game event. And this was a great excuse to try that out because something that's a lot of fun is having the handheld camera out on the floor, talking to people at setups, getting a feel for the area what's going on, the vibe on the floor, you know? And what I, so some people do that sometimes, but it's a little more like, okay, we're just going to have a handheld camera and talking to the chat that way. But I want to be able to switch back to dedicated gameplay, you know?
Starting point is 00:11:21 So we kind of had this elaborate setup of like, okay, we have one camera on, on the floor to go check out and talk to people and then another to switch back to the stream setup. And that was all, that worked perfectly. So we did it, you know, and at the same time, I saw, I got an email and it was like, hey, yo, so the Avatar Legends beta is Alpha is also happening this exact weekend. What a crazy coincidence. That's nuts. That seems unfortunate timing. Why would that be the case?
Starting point is 00:11:55 I mean, this was a small canceled game that came back out of nowhere, and then this other game was the massive. huge FGC fucking hit that's about to drop. So why would you want to compete on the same weekend? That's wild. Anyway, let's grab that. So I put it on my Steam deck and went over. And this weekend has been fucking illuminating in so many ways. So for one thing, aside from the games, just the reason why I segue this way is because as I showed
Starting point is 00:12:32 up there. I saw some people from Air Dasher's and a couple of people from like the old MTLSF guys. And then like some friends, some people I recognize are rolling and I'm like, hey, what's up? And I was like, hey, man, what are you doing here? And he's like, ah, yeah, what's up? And I'm like, stuff. I'm like, okay. You know, talking to Reggie and Jimmy and stuff. And then like all these other dudes I kind of know that are like the guys that just play third strike and like Alpha 2 that would never be caught dead playing a new fighting game at all walk in like Chirithee's there and you know, UNS and some of these people. I'm like, what? the fuck is actually god damn it reggie did you secretly and he's like ah
Starting point is 00:13:08 so yeah he secretly made it a thing and then uh it was a little fun thing they brought what all these old guys doing here they don't want to play these new fighting games that's crazy you know so yeah secret little little birthday thing so that was nice uh i appreciated that and um and then we got to jump into uh token So before I go into gameplay, what was your lead into that? So I had a very different lead into that. So I was going through my emails. And I was like, I have a weirdly enormous amount of playtests sitting in my email.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Like it just so happened that I have two random games. I have somebody reached out to me with a playtest code for the Quantic Dream Mova. Oh shit. And I got the Tocon beta and they were all like staggered like on top of each other. Okay. So I was like, fuck it. Okay, let's do. Let's just roll through all these.
Starting point is 00:14:11 We'll do a big day of streams and we'll just fucking check out all these unreleased video games. Wow. Wow. Okay. Sidebar, the unction is amazing and I am immediately, immediately grabbing that. That's a great name for an event. Go on. So I'm like, all right, let's just check them out.
Starting point is 00:14:28 And in order, I played a game. These are all not finished. So take it as you will I played a game called Wanderberg Which was it you might see a trailer for it It's a little You play a little castle that rolls around on wheels And it's fucking vampire survivors
Starting point is 00:14:42 It's slow vampire survivors But you are an entire castle Yeah it's not It's not It doesn't got it Okay It doesn't got it Okay
Starting point is 00:14:53 Then I loaded up Vault Breakers Which even after reading Through the whole press email Couldn't figure out what it was and then I loaded it in and then what it is is hey
Starting point is 00:15:09 what if you took the moment to moment gameplay of a moba and made it an extraction game where you're playing a moba by yourself on a Warcraft 3 map
Starting point is 00:15:26 but you have to extract out to keep any of your gear and I was like this controls really bad and then I died and then the game crashed. Wow. So that's vault breakers. And you don't even get to like shit on 12 year olds and ruin their night. Well, it is PVPVE, but it loaded me into an empty game.
Starting point is 00:15:49 So I don't know if that was because it was a unpopular play test or because it was broken. But, okay. Okay. Then I was like, all right. I was planning to do like a six, seven hour stream and I've blown through half. of the games in 40 minutes. Cool. Well, at least we can play at least, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:10 a half-hour match of Spellcaster Chronicles, which I should mention, again, is a terrible name. Terrible name. Spellcaster Chronicles is the Moba by Quantic Dream. You don't, I even said it before, and you couldn't remember. That's the Quantic Dream Mover. Okay. Yeah, I just said it.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Oh, boy. It's just deleted. It's bad. It is a bad name. Oh, your target, your target, um, market testing team failed you guys. So I'm like, I load it up and it's got like decent art and some interesting menus. And, you know, you're doing that. And I was a little put off because the character's names are like ice skeleton and swamp witch.
Starting point is 00:16:54 And like they don't have names. Oh, they're just classes. And I'm like, this seems really strange for like a hero look. Huh. So then I'm like, alright. Sure. And then I'm like, hey, I'm going to load up and I'm going to hit quick play. And then I quick played into the timer for nine minutes and 55 seconds.
Starting point is 00:17:16 And then the game told me there was a technical error, which was not true. It was actually the timeout for matchmaking because the game had, the playtest had like a worldwide audience of like 500 people. Oh, the hallmark. The fucking the absolute. Yeah. Classic. Quick play. Quick. Any minute now. Oh, no. And I was like, well, I'm going to give up on this. Was there a tutorial that you were able to see? No, there's a video. No game play. No game. Oh, my God. And so I'm sitting there going, wow, as far as stream or like video gimmicks have gone, this is definitely one of the most disastrous runs I've ever had.
Starting point is 00:18:01 I'm like an hour and 20 minutes in and I have like done shit and blown through most of what I had planned for the day. Nothing's happening. So I'm like, well, thank God I saved the best for last. Let's load up that Marvel Tokon Beta
Starting point is 00:18:21 Arc System Works. Save my stream today. And this was 15 minutes before I tell. texted you and went, wow, Tocon feels really bad. It feels really, really bad. Hey, we're supposed to go on a journey to get to these conclusions, okay? It feels really bad.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Even though I believe my reply was in all caps, boy does it. That is that you have all caps. There it is. I'm looking right at it. Um, because I was, you know what I was hoping for? Because when you say shit like, yo, this game feels like ass. Someone in the comment, someone in the thread, somebody in the, the chat, somebody is always there. Like, nah, man, you just got to, you're missing out on the car car cause.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Yes. Yes. So I'm like, well, I know Wully's been playing it for a couple hours by now. I'll text Wully. And he's going to tell me, no, man, you actually got to give it a minute. Oh, there's actually some secret stuff. Oh, there's some. cool stuff and instead I got back yeah okay so I mean if we're if we're starting at the ending then at the very least yeah I'm just gonna yeah normally I wouldn't jump right to the end except for tocon that was the beginning as soon as that tutorial started and I started to do jumps and dashes I was like something is wrong here something is off so i you know we had a i've i've gone over this quite a bit you know many times now
Starting point is 00:20:08 at this point just talking to the guys in the room and then again with reggie yesterday just we're trying to figure out what are we looking at here but um and it it also is this extra weird thing because of the weird fucking way that like i watched we watched the trailer late and everything there was this initial like yo marvel man you have something to say about you have something to say about the Marvel game, you know? And I'm like, yeah. No, it looks beautiful. It looks gorgeous.
Starting point is 00:20:34 It looks gorgeous. But what's happening here, right? And like, I really didn't expect that Arxis trying, going to make their own Marvel game, but trying to make it not Marvel versus Capcom, but still their own version of it, that they would hit all of these weird walls because these are things that they themselves have solved in the past, right? So for starters, you're kind of playing it. And the first thing you realize is when you are running at your running speed, you are moving at walk speed in Street Fighter 6.
Starting point is 00:21:11 It's very slow. Right? You're seeing Captain America sprint moving at the speed that you're just holding forward with like Luke or something. So that means when you're walking with the characters, you're like fucking. Makoto? Like, it's so, you know, it's this really, really slow feel that's like, but the game is full of all this shit. It looks like a hyper game, right? It's a, you know, so everything's flashy. Everything's big. Everything's slow. So you feel really, really like right away that, that, that's odd. And then you also are like, you know, touching buttons, getting a little feel for it. And like,
Starting point is 00:21:53 the thing I think that's the coolest about the game, besides the amazing art style. And the like, I do appreciate the whole like, this is an unapologetically Japanese version of these Marvel characters, you know? Their fucking storm is not is yelling Tatsumaki when she does a tornado, you know, like, so all that is great. And I like that the idea of the game is, um, instead of starting with all of your team together and then would link down to the last survivor. You assemble. You as Avengers assemble. What a cool idea for the whole. What a cool idea.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Now what ends up happening when you have four characters is you don't want to intimidate players by having them learn people that are way too different and that feel too different. So you kind of end up homogenizing a bit and making it not matter as much when they're on your team. But to have this whole assembly thing work, you have to have these situations where the way they join your team is by wall breaking, for example. doing certain types of interactions. And these wall breaks are, you know, like Guilty Gear style, like Strive style. And I feel like I didn't, like in Strive, I didn't mind the idea of going like, okay, let's make a hypotheticals different version of the corner in a fighting game where you're going to get pressured and eventually you're going to lose the exchange,
Starting point is 00:23:13 but you're going to give your opponent a big reward as you do this big stage transition, right? It's a really interesting thing because it's like, okay, maybe being in the corner for a whole match is like a nightmare and like Guilty Gear characters can make if they're stuck in there forever, the nightmare can be never ending. So let's make it so if they win too hard, they actually break you out of the corner of themselves. And get a big reward for it. Yeah, I think, and I think it was like I much preferred. I thought it looked a lot cooler and flowed better than like the way like injustice had these insane fucking pig transition factory thing. It was not. It was wild. They did in a way, yeah, they did in a way that I thought was like, you know, okay, interesting.
Starting point is 00:23:54 I love how Street Fighter 6 came and said, no, fuck that, die in the corner. Die. You will live, breathe, and die in this corner. 2X-K-Ls has that. If you're not getting out of the corner, just die there. I do respect the response, you know, on behalf of other companies. However, this game. What if I can't get out of the corner?
Starting point is 00:24:17 bitch. Bairish. Shouldn't have tried. But I feel like the problem with Tokon was that you have to do these constantly and you need to see six of them
Starting point is 00:24:31 per match to get the whole team together. So what you end up having is a slow game but then every time you do one of these combos into a transition it breaks the flow up even more. So you're like constantly getting interrupted.
Starting point is 00:24:45 You are on average seeing people knocked out of the corner like five times a match. That's a lot. It's interesting because one of the maps, the ex Xavier Mansion, is they don't have stage transitions on it. They make it so that you just splat and then the new person joins.
Starting point is 00:25:02 And it's almost like they're testing to see, oh, do people prefer the version where we don't have a constant break? Because I think it's a cool comic book cut-in that shows you something that's very Marvel-oriented, but it does get exhausting in the alpha. with how many interruptions are happening in the match, you know?
Starting point is 00:25:21 Luckily, you know, aside from all that, it's a tag game. And I was doing a little combo and I tagged in, you know, I hit Storm's assist. And I said to myself, wow, it's really good that tagging in a new character
Starting point is 00:25:37 in this game feels good. Okay. So the problem. What a core concept to nail Oh, I'm so glad they nailed it. The problem with what you said is everything, Pat. The air was a lie. It made up a lie.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Okay, let's take a character I like, like Elawi, and a character you like Blitz, right? Sure. And there's a thing you can do where Alawi can drop the tentacles and make her tentacles and then they hit you every couple seconds. And then after doing that, you can call in Blitz, Crank, to grab you from the air back into the tentacles. extend the combo longer. Yeah, you're going to deal with it. It's really cool.
Starting point is 00:26:21 Tocaw, and that means when you pick your character and the assist they do and stuff, like you have a lot of variety because your team is all based on synergy. Like what I do with Timo and Blitz is I throw out a bunch of mushrooms and I use Blitz's assist to pull them into the mushrooms to get my badges. A lot of interactions. In the design attempt to simplify the game as much as possible, they made it so that you don't pick assists for the character. Where they are on your slot is what they do.
Starting point is 00:26:51 So the first person who's going to be, I guess, to the left of your portrait. Well, that gets weird too because the order they're in is like a diamond. But when you're on player two side, you press the, you call the wrong direction button for the person you want to jump out because it's inverted. It gets weird, right? The assist facing the opponent is the forward one. And it's like a horizontal strike. They come in and do a thing. And then the assist that's below you comes in and does an uppercut.
Starting point is 00:27:20 And the one behind you does like hidden missiles or something tactical. Here's a grenade, right? So no matter where you place your team, that's the thing they're always going to do is those functions. You know, right? Horizontal, vertical and then weird. Yeah. And then if you tag anyone into the bottom slot, they're going to always do their version of a shore you can, like an uppercut, whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Okay. So let's say you do a combo and then you're like, I want to do. a bunch of pressure, hit you with some buttons. And while you're blocking, I'll call in Dr. Doom, and he will do his hammer of dawn laser. And while that laser is like getting cooked and starting up, I'm going to jump to the other side and do a little teleport and mix you up and do some stuff. You call in Dr. Doom in the middle of a combo and he jumps in and he doesn't do that laser you wanted him to do.
Starting point is 00:28:03 He just hits you. Because the assists change what they do in the middle of a combo. In the middle of a combo, every assist jumps in and doesn't. doesn't do their move, they just does a generic hit because they want the assist to not matter. And so every combo is going to look the same, no matter who's there at any point. Do you want to hear something really fun and stupid? I thought you were going to make a completely different complaint about the assists. What was that?
Starting point is 00:28:36 So I'm like, I read, so the assists, the characters are on a diamond, right? and the character on point is always the top of the diamond, right? And what assists they do is dependent on where they are on the diamond. So what I discovered is that if I'm Captain America at the top and I tag to Kamala at the bottom and then I tag to Starlord on the left and then I tag back to Captain America at the top, I will have actually rotated the fucking characters off their original places, which means they won't do the assists that I want them to do.
Starting point is 00:29:10 And I was like, wow, that's fucking. fucking terrible. Yeah. But worse than that. Yes. And I mean way worse than that is when I discovered, oh, it's actually fine because all of their assists are the same. They're the same.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Everyone's vertical assist is a captain commando projectile or a jury you, but they all function identically. If you want, like the back assist is going to be like the laser or the grenade or the tactical one. But regardless, where you put them in. to the slot. So the goal was to simplify this process to make it so that they don't matter. But you've actually made it more complex because now they're going into these different positions.
Starting point is 00:29:51 And you're like, oh, are they different? And the trick is no, they're not different. So if I actually really weird and complicated. So if I press light, medium heavy assist, doesn't matter which assist, doesn't matter what's going on. Someone somewhere will jump in, punch you, and jump out. And like, you stupid pussy. You ever hit lights, medium heavy.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Just mash out lights or mediums, bitch. And now we get to a big weird thing here, which is the auto combo problem. That is everything this game seems to be encouraging is to just rely on the auto combo system. And a lot of games will be like, hey, that's a part of it. It's an option, but you don't have to do them. You can do other stuff, right? And in fact, I'll say like, you know, to get 2XCO, you use Pulse combos, you see what they do. You can turn some basic B&Bs.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Turn them on or off, whatever the case is. But the moment you start doing stuff on your own, you'll have like a moment of being like, oh, I can go from here to here to here to here. And I'm like, ooh, you get some ideas. Even the most basic bread and butter in 2XCO with like a single extra piece of kit on it is like a hundred times more effective than the pulse combo. And so I go pick anyone on the roster and you go light, medium, heavy, and then let's say down heavy to just launch them up. And for half or more of the cast, it just whiffs completely. Right. So you're like, oh, they don't want you to be able to do that much.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Okay. So then you go, let's shorten that to just like, let's say light, medium, then crouching heavy. Cool. And then everyone can jump and like you get a little hop and you can do a little bit of a air one, two, air one. And it's like, it's very much like, it's not. giving you a big reward for doing manual combos. It's giving you a very stilted feeling small range of options. And what sucks here is this is a great thing where I'd be like, well, let me go to the training mode and actually experiment with the system and see what's possible.
Starting point is 00:31:53 But the game's like, go fuck yourself, right? It's a completely separate issue here. This is where like a network programmer is basically like, we want as much network data as possible. And every time people play an offline match, that denies me my data. So. force people to play online and that way we'll have all the info we need to for working. And it's like, okay, I get that reasoning. But what happens is you create a really bad first impression for people who don't get a chance to figure out what the fuck is happening. And what they end up doing is they either go to the training mode, not training mode.
Starting point is 00:32:28 They go to the tutorial and have to skip forward to that one part where you can use Cap, Storm, Kamala, and Starlord. And then you can now be. up on the Tony for a minute, but not what he's blocking, only the part of the thing where you can do whatever you want. And you make your own weird training mode, or you go
Starting point is 00:32:47 fight the CPU, but then that's annoying because you can't really still test your shit out anyway. You know? Before we get too far away from it. So I also tried to be like, what about light medium heavy or heavy, heavy hop or whatever? This is the only fighting game I can think of
Starting point is 00:33:04 that I can say this other than like Mortal Mortal Kombat. It feels like the gravity and the movement speed of the characters is actively fighting me to do anything other than the auto combos. It's crazy. Like it, like, the auto combo, like mashing square would get me like what looked like a normal combo and is also the only way to do like the assist like team up moves at all. There's no manual function to it at all.
Starting point is 00:33:31 But on top of that, when I tried to break out of it with like a launcher at any given time and do like a non-slam down air cop it would just stop it would actually just break like i remember like caps medium kick doesn't even correctly hit air opponents unless he's right next to them from the launcher so you're getting the both the worst of both worlds because one when you start doing the auto combo i feel like what happens is and i need to confirm this but it just it felt like what happens is you get locked the characters get locked into the combo in a way where like if you try to do... They get magnetized.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Yeah, if you try to do it manually, they'll drop out sometimes, but they get magnetized in exactly to position. So you're encouraged to just use that system. And if you want to then break... Like you said, break out of the auto combo and do something manual towards the end of it. You can't.
Starting point is 00:34:23 You can only switch from auto combo light to auto combo medium or auto combo heavy, whereas, like, again, a more freeing system, like the pulse one would let you just be like, and now do what you want. You can start the first couple hits manual, and then do what you want. But here they really lock you in.
Starting point is 00:34:38 It sucks because everybody else that can't use training mode is just relying on this system. The system itself is encouraging you to just use them to do these wall breaks to get the team faster. So now all these matches end up feeling slow, the same, everyone's doing the same basic setups here, and it's discouraging you from using the system to truly do manual things and explore it and so on.
Starting point is 00:35:01 And it just ends up being like, God damn it, man. like this is so weird because even towards the end I saw like last day some people put out some footage of like here's a cool doctor doom combo where he's like juggling you between his shield or like spider man tech where he's doing some fast stuff that looks different from some of the other of the cast members you know but like none of those options are going to change sort of these weird fundamental changes these fundamental like tag assist problems you have and this is the version of the game that like when they first brought it to evo and everyone is playing it people were like I don't really get what going on here and then the devs came into Maxis stream and ran some sets and they're like, oh, that's how you make it look a little better. Okay, but they still came back and changed it to add more freedom to tagging, but it was not enough. So the characters jump in now and before you had to wait for them to do their thing and then there's that little timer when you can switch to them. And now it's like, no, you can do it beforehand, but you still want to be able to do
Starting point is 00:35:54 it sometimes in the middle. You want to be able to do it anytime. The weirdest thing is that the game is like, you know how you should tag? You should tag by holding the button down in the middle of your combo. Yeah, like you have a, there's a fast tag button on L2, right? And, but like for the most part, you have this, this thing of like, choose when you want to hold it to take over. And sometimes if you want to take over, again, in the middle of the move that it's like, nope, you're not allowed there. And then when you do decide to take over, which admittedly, when there's eight people on screen, I can understand the cluttering to make it clearer to view. But you have this whole like, follow the ghost. Where is it going to go? Is it left or right? It's on your left. Okay. And in the meantime,
Starting point is 00:36:33 What have you been getting used to? I've been getting used to, like, instant-tank. Clap, right? There's a fun moment that happens in the handshake tag, which is, this is also, it happened in other, so it's a moment that happens. Street Fighter 5 had it every time you activated V-trigger. The game pauses. I get, like, 10 milliseconds to be like, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:36:53 Should I jump? There's a moment in fighting games where we both players, the game will pause for a second, and both players go, what's going on? And it's really fun. to like have that little like, oh shit, adapt moment, right? Shit, block left. Something else.
Starting point is 00:37:08 And it's a, it's a, yeah, just a little, a little pause. And to XKO adds the little handshake clap noise and the green flash to actually like Pavlovian response trigger. Like, they want you to hear clap and go, oh, fuck.
Starting point is 00:37:22 And everyone, all four people on a station will be like, where's you going? Okay, there he is, right? And in this case, it's like, tag and ghost trick. Oh, I. man you're like
Starting point is 00:37:38 guys it feels really bad it it is it feels it feels like it feels like like licensed Kusoge feels really bad
Starting point is 00:37:50 so the strange thing again Arxis has solved this problem themselves already twice persona persona 4 arena and Ultamax and Dragon Ball
Starting point is 00:38:02 fighters both do something fantastic with the auto combo, which is they let you do full, you know, manual everything, have fun, enjoy your characters explore, but there's an auto combo that each character has that's unique and useful. It has some weird property to it. It has special moves that only are a part of the auto combo that you can't do otherwise. So even at the highest levels of play, you always want it. There's never anybody going, nah, fuck that, I don't want that auto combo.
Starting point is 00:38:32 It's like, no, no, no, there's a part of this. move that's useful for everyone. So make it that that it's actually just adding to all the moves the character can do, and it's a benefit for everybody, instead of this weird version you have here. It's a step backwards, you know? Such a strange thing, because you will see people regularly using their auto combos in Dragon Ball as a part of their longer sequence to do stuff.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Like with Android 16, I want a side switch. Bam, I get the third hit, slam you behind me, you know? or like a Vegeta, like he adds height to his like an uppercut, you know, and he gets closer to you. So I don't know why they approached it in this way. And I feel like a big part of it was we want to be different from Marvel versus
Starting point is 00:39:15 Capcom. But in the race to do that, you just made it not fun. And like people have been saying sauceless. People have been using the word sauce a whole lot this weekend, you know. And I mean, people have different feelings on what is it is not.
Starting point is 00:39:31 not sauce, but what I can say is... I can tell you what sauce is. What sauce? It's good. Sauce is good. It tastes good. What I can say is the mission to homogenize the cast was successful. Mission accomplished. You made things feel the same.
Starting point is 00:39:49 So, hey. And here we are. As much as I've been dogging on to XKO for its roster, and I will continue to do so until everyone I want is in that game. Um, if, if the raw, like, okay, when Dragon Ball Z fighters can, or sorry, Dragon Ball Fighter C, fuck, I hate that game's title, came out and like, everybody was like, like, a lot of characters were a variation of Goku because that's how fucking Dragon Ball works. You're like, well, it should have a big roster.
Starting point is 00:40:21 And it did have a big roster. And then I had a really big DLC roster, right? That game's roster is enormous. And like, people are like homogenized to a degree because it's energy blasts and Kung Fu things, but everybody's got their gimmick and everybody's unique, right? Dude, I feel like, I don't care how, what special button you put on fucking this. This shit better have a roster of like a hundred fucking fighters if it's going to feel like this.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Pick your dankest Marvel character that you want to see showing up here. And I'm telling you they're going to have squirrel girl uppercut is going to be your little squirrel twirl. And then her back special is going to be tossing a nut with an arc that bounces according to the strength. Like, it's, there's, there's like an order of magnitude, more mechanical complexity between Marvel characters in rivals, a game that has, like, four buttons, than this tag fighter. So this is where the part two of this conversation goes, and I find it insane. But we were talking about two XCO's, like roster being too small and how that needs to get buffed up because
Starting point is 00:41:30 it's too small. Very fun game, but like you're fighting the same characters a lot. We want to feel more variety to it. Holy shit, does it feel ever so minuscule here? Because something Dragon Ball did was they made each of their characters have less moves so that they would feel part of a team. And here you're feeling that excessively so while being homogenized, right? I'm playing as the Avengers.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Who's in it? I don't care. So then I pop in Avatar Legends, the fighting game. game. A game that I remember it getting canceled. It got canceled and then it got resurrected and here it is. That's wild.
Starting point is 00:42:10 That's crazy. Things shouldn't exist. So, you know, seems to be pretty small budget, seems to be pretty tiny, seems like it was made fairly quickly in a very... Kind of looks like a flash game. But the sprites look like the show and when they win and they get close-ups on them
Starting point is 00:42:28 they look even more like the show. And you know what? That's pretty sick because, like, if the game was a really high budget arxis 60 frames per second, amazing Ang doing all his shit like thing, it would look really cool, but it wouldn't look like the source material necessarily, you know. But this is like, you're nailing it, right? You go look at the move list on it before you even see it in motion. And every one of those characters, there's four characters in that demo. Kora, Ang, Ksuko,
Starting point is 00:43:04 Ketara. Their individual move lists have more going on than the entire cast of Tokon, each character individually. Hey, look at that. I'm watching footage right now. Do you know what I see? I see a blue demon
Starting point is 00:43:21 sword bar under Zuko, and I see Kora with all four elements underneath her health bar. I see meters. Okay. So one, you start playing this game and it's super fast and it's just like, go. Go nuts, have fun, press buttons. Something you know about me is I love me some movement. I love me some defensive options.
Starting point is 00:43:46 I'm kind of obsessed. And the reason why I like a character like Steve Fox is because two of his buttons are dedicated to movement instead of attacking, right? this game adds a flow button that makes everyone able to move and like quickly get around the screen. And when you hold it in neutral, you get these dodges that are very dynamic. And then you can cancel out of those into flips and slu-all these really cool moments of I'm punching you. You're dodging me. I'm dodging it. We're both flipping backwards, re-engaging.
Starting point is 00:44:19 It feels like fucking awesome high-speed anime Sakuga, right? when you're playing it. There is stuff going on where everyone has like, if you have Zuko, he's got like, he doesn't just have like a fireball and then an uppercut or whatever. He has like six different types of fireballs that all do different things. He's got a ridiculous amount of, he's got like six different dive kicks, whatever, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:44:43 And they're just like, what do you want to do with it? You want to go nuts? Okay, you can pick a buddy. You don't have assists in the game, but it plays like a one-v-one hyper Marvel game, the speed it moves at. It's the fastest game I've ever played. It's the fastest fighting game I've ever played.
Starting point is 00:44:56 It's, um, they have things where you pick a, uh, one friend who stands in the background and they act as a variation or like a groove for your character, you know, so,
Starting point is 00:45:08 um, so a Zucco, for example, uh, can pick, um, I forgot her name, but,
Starting point is 00:45:13 um, uh, uh, who, who's in the back on the, on the, on her big, um,
Starting point is 00:45:19 mole. And it means that he can make his dive, kicks that are usually pretty decent, even better by doing them as low to the ground as possible. And on hit or on whiff, he can cancel out of it into an air dash in any direction. My girlfriend gives me the confidence to do lower to the ground dive kicks. So you get these options where you read that in the description and they go, oh my God, they want you unchained, do anything you want, right? But then, like, in terms of character design, so Zuko.
Starting point is 00:45:52 has, again, you said you have that sword meter, right? And then the other things you have are your chi and your chakra. So, chi is your, basically your, call it your drive meter. It's your flow. You spend, every time you move and do flow things or parry flow things, it's going to cost this movement meter. And then you have super meter that you build up. And when you drain that movement meter, your flow goes to zero.
Starting point is 00:46:21 your chi goes to zero, you become unbalanced, and you're in burnout. So now you can't do all those fancy movements. You're gray and you're waiting for it to come back, just like burnout in Street Fighter 6. Hey, what's these fucking seven dragon balls underneath the live bar filling up? Yeah, so that's your super meter. Okay. Every time you land a special move, you fill up, you get one pip of chi. That does a super.
Starting point is 00:46:45 So a level one super is going to cost four circles, or like a level three will cost all seven. but you can only do it on the second round. Because I'm looking at footage and like Cora only has five, but like Zucco has seven balls. And if you lose a round, you get up to seven. Oh, wow. Everyone's... Okay. So everyone, you only get access to your ultimate final technique on your second round, you know?
Starting point is 00:47:11 But here's the deal. Zucco exhausts himself. And when he does one pip of that sword meter next to him, goes up because that is his redemption meter. Of course. He gains one level of redemption by burning himself out, too hot, too fast, and exhausting himself by being too aggressive. Then you calm down and one of your moves in your kit gets a little bit better, right?
Starting point is 00:47:42 He gets a launcher off of an air fireball that gets better and you can do more shit with it. You exhaust yourself again. You get to redemption level two. Then his break dancing flame kicks get better, right? And then at level three, you get a parry that gets way better and you get a full like reward of chi. You become balanced. Zuko's system encourages you to burn hot and fast and then calm down and redeem yourself. That's his redemption system.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Right? that's his character. Win quo's win quote at the end of the round I've changed or that was rough. I'm watching some of the other things that really stands out is that like I'm seeing like people getting like counter hits
Starting point is 00:48:35 from projectiles in the air like Coral like tag you with like a water fireball like as you're jumping in and she'll just throw out five more and combo you all the way to the other end of the fucking screen. Okay. Right. So what you're seeing, because again, what I just described is Zucco's specific honor system. And what they will have on the move list, at the end of the move list, they have like all your different options, is essentially your character's plot arc stuff where if you do this in the match, this matches what their plot arc is in the story.
Starting point is 00:49:08 And this rewards you. So Cora, for example, hers are, her main system is do the different elemental moves in the right order, right? Do them in the correct order and you then your next avatar state move, like you improve the strength of it, whatever, right? So that's her main thing going on. And then when her life gets low or when you do her super, she pops off and becomes the avatar state. there's stuff where they're like okay Cora
Starting point is 00:49:42 if you do her flow forward where she dashes at you and go right into an uppercut balls out you get a reward because she's brash impulsive and doesn't give a fuck right so you need to rush in and do
Starting point is 00:49:58 an insane thing and the game's like good you're playing as Cora right oh that's so that's so cool she gets rewarded for landing the first hit of the match, but only if you never block. What? You have to land the first hit without blocking. You have to the real first hit.
Starting point is 00:50:19 You have to go in. Yes. If Cora blocks, that's not her. You're playing Cora. She's dumb impulsive and brash and going in. Get the first hit without trying to defend yourself, right? There's the plot side of things going down on each character. It's fucking incredible, right?
Starting point is 00:50:38 It's really cool. Wow. And then I... It's really cool how you're telling me about the Avatar fighting game. And instead of telling me what's not in the game, you're telling me what is in the game. That's crazy. What a crazy concept. I mean, so I just went to Katara and I was like, let's see what's going on with her.
Starting point is 00:50:59 I think she's cool. And right away I saw she can do her waterwips, and then she can go into like a, like, You know, like high, low, medium. Or she can go backwards into, you know, Johnny, basically doing his slashes, you know, mist finer stuff. Exactly. So she can do that with her waterwips, right? So I'm like, oh, that's cool. But when you're in her water whip stance holding the water, you can then slide on the ground,
Starting point is 00:51:24 forward, backwards, up, down, doing flips while holding it to then whip in the air straight down, across, and it gives you buffed versions because you're combining movement with your stance holding, you know? And so she asks you to like press extra buttons, do a little bit more, right? And I had an idea. I was just like, can I try something here? What happens if I do like a light, medium heavy, knockdown?
Starting point is 00:51:47 And then because I canceled into her water whip stance, I recover faster. Can I then dash forward and jump over and whip them on the ground? Oh my God, I absolutely can. And it rewarded me for doing that and says continue your combo now. So you can go like one, two, three, whip, cancel, dash up, pick them up. keep it going. And I was like, oh my God, that's a really technical thing that they, I, I just had the
Starting point is 00:52:09 thought, can I? And it said yes, right? And then up to yesterday, I'm like, can I? Like, I was doing a thing. I was like, there's a moment where you can do a big whip that knocks them really far away. And I'm like, you can't follow up with anything there. She's, they're too far.
Starting point is 00:52:25 But the one thing that I can do is dash out of it. And it's like, can I dash forward and then cancel that into a thing? And no, you're not close enough. They're too far away. And then I basically realized at some point labbing, long story short, is if you press the movement buttons while you're doing other stuff, it'll buffer in to come at the end of the last thing you do. Okay. So it's like specifics aside, listening to you describe playing Avatar and going through that fun little process of can I do this? Yes.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Can I do this? Maybe? Yes. And it's so wild in comparison to my experience. experience playing Tokon, which was, can I do a air combo? No. It's so nuts, man. Maybe if I watch a video, I can do an air combo?
Starting point is 00:53:18 And it just, it really feels like they, it's the exact opposite where they're like, look, we have, we don't have a lot of money. We've got what we've got. This game, again, it was like, this was fucking already canceled and we're pulling it back out of the dirt. What can we do with? what's here and it's like you can make it feel good and make it so that and just go and let people do what they want. Just let people do what they want. Let them have fun with the characters and go in. And all, yeah, just four characters that feel like they have way more going on individually than anyone else on that entire roster. I would like to have you hold that thought. We just got a
Starting point is 00:53:55 great question in the live audience that works really well for you to answer. Isn't Tokon in beta right now? why so harsh? And then I'm adding my own emphasis to a game that's not finished yet. Well, it can change and they can take feedback. And boy, should they after this weekend. It's a beta for feedback. You know? They literally ask us for the feedback.
Starting point is 00:54:24 However, I'm going to say that, like, if ultimately, if what you're looking for is, If what you're looking for is pretty much just like, you know, the character is doing the cool stuff and everything's like, if you didn't necessarily feel any of the limitations I'm describing, that's okay. Like, I'm not, that's valid and you can still enjoy yourself with it. I'm just saying that like when you make a game that is in the Marvel style that's coming into this space where people are used to having freedom, movement, you want to touch buttons, express yourself, go nuts and have fun. and instead you get something where they're specifically looking to hold you back. I'd say now's the time where they need to be put on blast to hear about what they need to change. The time to complain is now before the meal is finished.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Because if they hear that, they can go back to the drawing board and readdress a bunch of this shit, right? They changed it between Evo and now to add more options to tag to your characters. They need to take it back and change it even further. This is exactly it, you know? Um, and I hope that like, it doesn't need to just, like, re-address the way, like, all that tagging stuff works and everything. It needs to, like, go straight to Super Turbo. You know what I mean? Like, they need to find a way to skip World Warrior and get right to the final version of that game.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Um, because it just, like, everyone is happy to see a new cool fighting game. but like the herd gets thinned out real quick when this throne of Marvel that's vacant when the challengers are like Nen Impact, Invincible versus Tocon, and you're like, whoa, what happened? There were so many games a minute ago and now it's like, yo, we got 2XCO here. That's really fun. And this avatar game out of left field just like, ow! And fighter's over there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:30 And it's thing. Ang is over here doing fucking water wind tricks and the foam guy. He's coming out going, which is a wind pose, by the way. He actually falls over in a wind pose. One of those things that really stood out to me about like, Tocon was starting it up and they have the button to do special moves. But they also have motions.
Starting point is 00:56:55 And I'm like the motion, like, it's totally fastigial. There's no fucking reason to, fucking do the motions at all. I don't understand why they're even there. Other than to like acquiesce to people going, I don't want it to be a one button special fart here. But the whole game is built to be a one button It is. It is.
Starting point is 00:57:13 In fact, the fact that they let you do like if you want to do the heavy version of a quick input button, you press the heavy button at the same time as the quick input one and I'm like, oh God, that's just a super input. That's fucking awful. To XCO. It doesn't feel good. It doesn't feel good to do that, you know? Yeah. So, and here's the thing. A lot of
Starting point is 00:57:31 what I was describing, that's really fun and felt good in Avatar Legends, the fighting game, was stuff that I got because I went to the training mode they gave you. And then when I was there at the local meetup, we went to the local versus mode that it gave you. And we played against each other. And we got to feel what the game was like. And then we're like excited for it. It's such a backfiring, stupid way of looking at things to just go like, no, the network test information is the most important part.
Starting point is 00:58:02 One more data. And instead, you lose sight of the fact that first impressions are lasting impressions, man. You know? So the weirdness of this weekend was just the complete left field upset that is this little flash game looking thing that plays like fucking crack, you know? And yeah, I mean, going and watching the way people were starting to figure out how Kora works or how to use Ang. Like Reggie
Starting point is 00:58:32 touched Ang for like a second and like you jump with him he does the air like glider and then you cancel that into air glider again and like you can fully control how you're approaching and then you can now blow wind so
Starting point is 00:58:48 that you can get there faster or slow yourself down and you see all this insane variation in how you move and approach your opponent in this game that's not like anything else out there. And it's just like, this is,
Starting point is 00:59:03 was this put out to steal Tokon's lunch? Like, was this a tactical alpha? You know? Because usually you run away from the big guy making the thing, right? Like, oh, you know, we're announcing,
Starting point is 00:59:17 uh, fucking Zelda when? we're announcing Call of Duty when? GTA when? Everyone run away. And here the small game was like, no, I'm running into the storm actually.
Starting point is 00:59:28 it's so crazy for just a random coincidence and also they basically did a thing where like at the last second they're like up some earth benders got into the servers we're going to keep them up for another nine hours ah all right yeah go have fun um yeah just i mean what i will say is even casually like just go watch some footage of it and just see how like wild and fast and fun it looks you know it's nine and day it's nine and
Starting point is 00:59:54 um and like it does have and here's what it There is an auto combo, like a system on the light button where it'll do light, medium heavy, and then you get to pick the ender. Oh, that's crazy. That you want to do after that, you know? Can you believe it? Yeah, three stages, you know, lots, different. And, like, they give you all these colors right off the bat where everyone is in a, like, you can put anyone in a different tribe's color right off, right away, you know. there's moves where Cora jumps off the ground
Starting point is 01:00:29 that Earth bends up to her feet and the earth that pops up is depending on the stage. It's, you know, in the ice area, it's ice that sticks up. In the earth area, it's normal ground. Just little details are like, yeah, I'm glad you put that in there. That's cool, you know.
Starting point is 01:00:48 And then, like, of course, from that, you get your ability to do her crack shoot or hold the button and turn it into like a bandit revolver or press the dash button and she flame dashes up to you. And you just, it's so insane how fast and free flowing, you know, the game is. And the fact that you're looking at the descriptions and it's like, hey, Ang is about being passive actually. So he rewards you for dodging with your flow state before you attack anybody, you know? And yeah, just whatever.
Starting point is 01:01:20 It was great. It was super cool. and I watched as like the neurons were firing as everyone that touched it got to be like, oh, oh, oh shit. Oh, okay, hold on a minute. There's some stuff here. I don't think Tokon, it's like, it's not a rap because they've shown their willingness to go back and change things after, you know, people got their hands on it and feedback came through. But they have to drastically change what they're doing. I feel like
Starting point is 01:01:50 the weird I was it invincible versus was like this kind of weird thing that like flying bricks and you know KI team I like what they do but it didn't look that appealing to me at all or so
Starting point is 01:02:02 but I'm looking at that like I think that looks more fun than Tokon felt you know anyway everything fucking looks more the way Tokon felt it's crazy I can't get over it
Starting point is 01:02:22 Anyway. I'm just sitting here and just going like, it's fucking, like, give me evil zone for fuck's sake. It's not often you have a weekend. It's more honest. Like, it's not often you have a beta come out that's like anti-marketing,
Starting point is 01:02:39 you know? Like, your eyeballs were way more interested in, in what was happening than your actual fingers were, you know? Yeah. Uh-huh. Anyway.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Okay, so that aside. a couple of the things. Makes me sad. There's a genre of game that's popping up a little bit in indies that are essentially like Balitro likes that are doing Balitro-like things but with different genres. I talked about the...
Starting point is 01:03:06 Yeah, like slots and daggers and the Buckshot... Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I mean way, way more directly. I mean like there was a Majong game called Aotengo, which was like a Majong but Balotro version where you get all kinds... Oh, somebody... Somebody mentioned one. Stackflow is the one that somebody mentioned to me, which is Balitoba Tetris.
Starting point is 01:03:28 And I played it. That's why I bring it up to say I played the Ballotroba Tetris game. I like the idea. It's way too early. It's way too rough. It seems like the whole point of it is you're playing Tetris, but you have a limited number of drops to clear the stage. And the blocks you get can have different textures to them that cause effects like explosions or goop or filling up lines, etc. to do like, wax. tacky Tetris things. And your point score can requirements get higher and higher as you have to clear the bosses. It's just not there yet.
Starting point is 01:04:02 You know, the idea of a Tetra style version of this, like, also there's not enough like, I guess, juice. So the Ballotro thing of getting your multipliers stacking and things exploding and all that, when that starts happening here, it just, it doesn't feel like it really pays off that much yet.
Starting point is 01:04:18 But I tried it. It also doesn't explain itself to you. You have to spend a little bit of time understanding what stack points are and what flow points are. I was hoping for good things because I'm a fan of fucking Tetris and I love Ballotro, but this does not feel
Starting point is 01:04:32 like the fusion of those ideas executed to the full strength of what the promises. But I guess someone recommended it to me and exactly, I checked it out and I was like, yeah, you know, I'm not going to stream it. I think that's kind of your deciding factor in a lot of this stuff is like, is it worth popping on for a stream? And I'm like,
Starting point is 01:04:49 eh, it's not there yet. So maybe this is a really petty, like, first impression. But the thing that really stood out to me is that when I looked at the Steam page, the blue and red they use for their points on the left side of screen is the exact same shade of blue and red that Ballotro uses. Like, it's not blue and red also. It's like literally like the hex code exact same color. And I was like, hmm. You know what you're doing. Yep.
Starting point is 01:05:26 I mean, I'll tell you one thing. I went back to ball pit and just unlocked some more shit because. Yeah. I also did. I got it on the switch too. And I was like, yeah, ball pit. Oh, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:05:36 They released it to both. Nice. Yeah. And it's got crossplay. Oh, keep your save. Nice. Perfect. Okay.
Starting point is 01:05:44 This week, I have started and played up to episode three of dispatch. that is weird because those episodes are like 55 minutes long they're like really fucking short I'm kind of shocked you didn't get to episode four well because we had to start late because baby stuff and then we had to end because baby stuff so I couldn't take it to four
Starting point is 01:06:07 we got three in before the day was done do we are we talking about dispatch in specific terms or broad terms I mean I don't know I only have one question about the first three episodes. I don't have to go too into detail, but I will say that I guess I'm okay to talk about things broadly. Okay, you know what?
Starting point is 01:06:32 I have a question for you that I would like to answer to. Okay. Yeah, okay. So my journey was pretty fun because, I mean, for one thing, right, what people can see is right off the bat. I'm looking at, um, I'm looking at, uh, this is gonna, oh, oh, I'm gonna ruffle some feathers in a second. Say your words, man. Say your words. Speak your truth. Yukari walks up and goes, hey there, new MC. You're cute. And I'm like, get away from me. I don't trust you. This is suspicious.
Starting point is 01:07:16 No, really? I was immediately like, that's. crazy. You're coming in? Yeah, no, no, no. Um, uh, uh, little, little, little Miss Blazer came in a little too, little too hot, you know, right off the bat. So I, I, I lean back to observe the situation and I believe I was correct to do so, much to Reggie's chagrin. Um, but it is funny to see the different, uh, our eyeballs are splitting in opposite directions, uh, because, hey, look, it's fucking invisible bitch self-proclaimed and
Starting point is 01:07:53 okay you are aesthetically what I'm what I'm looking for but what's coming out of your mouth oh my God oh Jesus it might as well be
Starting point is 01:08:05 it might as well be like like a just a mashup of the CSB taste chart I now here's the thing is I absolutely
Starting point is 01:08:16 enjoy a, just a filthy mess that can, you know, crack wise and keep up and all of that. I like some spunk. But the level of absolutely toxic, self-destructive nightmareish, oh my God, coming out of her, I'm like, well, I guess we're going mountain climbing then. Because at the top of this mountain, there's a flag to plant. And the opposite here is a fucking park. lot that may have some twists and turns to it as it may appear, but I guess we're going
Starting point is 01:08:53 mountain climbing. Holy shit at that right off the bat. And this is, of course, already establishing the true answer. Carlach is no longer an answer. What if Carlac was Daisy Dukes and had an accent? That's not fair. That's not fair. And specifically Reggie was like, okay, whatever. And then she walks into the scene and you see the V and you're like, oh my God, okay, I'm in. Then there was a moment of, yes, which way are you going to lighten the load on the team? Make your staffing decisions, exactly. And I had a simple thought. Look, the whole time I'm playing, I'm like, I'm not a fan of fucking greasy Razor Ramon.
Starting point is 01:09:44 and that dude can eat shit. And unfortunately, I was not provided the option. No, no, you were not. You were provided a very different set of options. To let Razor Remote hit the bricks. So what I did was, I said, I just taught my man bat how to fly and invested in him. Oh, your choice was set up.
Starting point is 01:10:05 Your choice was done for that. I am not going to lose the unit that I just invested points in. How dare you? so off she way off she went so you can you can totally if you're just like wildly unlucky you can teach boat like there's two slots during that mission so you can actually upgrade one and then the other and be like well fuck ah interesting because she's pretty useful too you know and i also noticed as well that um there was a little thing happening with uh the little irishman the little little fucking you
Starting point is 01:10:41 that's like a little jack septa guy exactly and he's there like he's like oh can you send her out to watch my tournament and like nah do it alone but it was for the best so yeah that's that's how I decided to play it you know no coopie sandwiches on my team
Starting point is 01:10:58 um and you say that but like one of those people is like way into crypto actually like way into it However, when it comes to who I'd rather fight if they had to come back at me, mad, yeah, I'd rather fight fucking moist critical. Yeah. You know?
Starting point is 01:11:23 But unfortunately, I spent my stats. Yeah, you could take Charlie. He's like my height. He's really short. Dude, we all watched as our materia disappeared into that fucking water. And we all know the pain of like, how dare you? How dare you rob me of my resources? I'm never again.
Starting point is 01:11:49 That feeling, that feeling of never again. So I want my flying Batman. And he's going to pick me, pick up my members and do good. Also, I mean, he's besties with malevola and she's the best person on the whole fucking cast. So. There's that. That's an easy decision. I appreciated, um, the little hacking mission.
Starting point is 01:12:09 game makes me miss near, you know? Oh, weird. That is such a, I would never have connected those two dots. Yeah, there's just something about it that made me feel a little bit like, oh yeah, moving on the little grid, you know? Um, but, uh, yeah, that was, that was a fun little mini game. I enjoy that, like, that aspect of it. Um, it's definitely, uh, it's definitely kind of weird that, like, okay, so you have the QTE on or off was like one of the things. Um, That's pointless. That shit is actually pointless. I saw people saying just turn it off, just keep it cinematic.
Starting point is 01:12:47 When Paige plays it, I'm going to tell her to turn it off because it's, it literally does nothing. Yeah, but what it does is keep these weird slowdowns in when you're watching it play out. Sure, but still. Yeah. There is a feeling I have where I'm just kind of like, I really like when things are in game. I really like pre-rendered does feel. Oh, yeah. So to people who don't know, dispatch is a fucking FMV game.
Starting point is 01:13:09 Like that game has like like no gameplay or polygons at all outside of the dispatch gameplay and the hacking mini game. Which means you don't have funny weird bugs of people falling out of world if you're just playing a fucking video. Bigsby doing his stripper dance by accident in the background. It also means you can't rip models and upload them, you know. But I, but no, it is it is great so far in just those three. And you can tell to that it's like, oh, critical role is behind this. Oh, well, here's 8 billion subtitle options. Here's a ton of attention to like how the voice action, voice acting is performed.
Starting point is 01:13:50 And it's a, you know, an absolute star player there is like the line delivery is coming through. I feel like they're trying to hit a medium ground where they're not completely without quips. but they're not MCU quippy. No, no. Like, basically, it's snappy, witty dialogue, but when they're having, like, a serious moment, they allow it to just have a serious moment. Yeah, you know, you don't have it.
Starting point is 01:14:22 They're not insecure in their own writing and go, oh, Iron Man's going to have to make a joke about his butthole here to cut the drama. You're not going to necessarily get he's right behind me, isn't he? But you might get, um, a Kung Fu Panda eyebrow raise, you know? You might get a, mm-hmm. So, yeah, that was-
Starting point is 01:14:43 Let me ask you, for the dispatch gameplay, like the actual core gameplay of the game. How do you like it? Oh, I think I got the hang of it. It took a second to, like, realize what it needed me to do and stuff.
Starting point is 01:14:58 And, you know, people were screaming, like, clear the messages. I'm like, you know. But I think I got the hang of it. I'm like, yeah, it's basic management. management stuff.
Starting point is 01:15:09 I don't play a lot of those games, but it's a, it's funner than championship manager, you know, I'll give you that. It's a little weird when there's moments where they're like, no, I'm not doing it because plot reasons, you know? There's that one bad shift, which is just crazy. I was so stressed out, and that's the intention. But what I will, but I'll say that like the desire to like get better at managing the calls and smooth it all over and get in there and use things efficiently is like, I'm
Starting point is 01:15:37 thinking about it. I'm like, yeah, I want to do a better run. I want to, you know, not have to use that pick-me-up power to save one of my team members. And, and then the other thing, too, okay, I know this is something where, like, your mileage may vary depending on who you are, but decipher, but keywords, sometimes the logic of what the word is trying to get at is a little nebulous. And I think that's the game. I think they're purposely, yes, right? So, you know, when it was like if it says like defend against you know people that might be fighting you and you're gonna have to chase and fight them okay well I think I figured it out yes yes you know but that means it's not the fight stat right even though the activity
Starting point is 01:16:21 is a fight it's not the context that of the whole sentence that matters it's the main word you know no main words plural yes yes yeah but there were one or two where I thought it was defending and it actually was fighting you know, there were one or two where I thought it was charisma, but it was actually brains, you know. Yeah, learning, learning that is the game. Right. Like, um, uh, investigate is like, you need your brains to investigate. But sometimes it's like you're investigating by talking to people, you know?
Starting point is 01:16:53 Like there was another word for like, um, determine, you know, or something like that. I forgot what exactly it was, but there's a thing that was like, oh, is that charisma or it just was a little bit in between. So yeah, that ultimately is the game. the wording gets a little vague at times. And yeah, and in terms of how to build out your characters and stuff, I'm like,
Starting point is 01:17:12 I don't know. I'm just covering your bases, I think feels, feels pretty smart. You know, I imagine the requirements are going to get higher and higher. As you kind of go, like,
Starting point is 01:17:20 do I need to spend all four team members on one mission over here? I don't think so. Maybe not. You know? Uh, the, I think that gameplay actually is,
Starting point is 01:17:29 is like, so they traded out walking around and talking to people. Yes. for the dispatch gameplay. Yes. And after having beaten the game, I think that was a really smart decision. Way better. Because I really like the dispatch gameplay.
Starting point is 01:17:47 And it has a bunch of little twists they can throw out you. Like they'll bring up a new concept, which will massively fuck up the strategy that you have been using to succeed. Yeah. Okay. And then they'll introduce a new thing that you can use to succeed instead. Because walking. walking around that office
Starting point is 01:18:05 and like finding little toys for your dog to then... Whatever. That would have just slowed shit down. Yeah, it would have been nothing. As such, it's super, super brisk. And the other thing is that I was actually quite bad at the dispatch mini game.
Starting point is 01:18:18 I was like pretty bad. Oh, yeah? Like, I get to the end of the first two or three episodes. I was like, you did better than 15% of people. Okay. And it's like, oh, okay, I'm, oh. I did better than 90%. I had, you know...
Starting point is 01:18:32 Good job. And then when I got to the final dispatch encounter, which is the game's final boss, essentially, I broke it again. I broke the final encounter and phase skipped. A bunch of it and missed out on like dialogue and scenes and stuff. A bunch. I missed out on a bunch. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:19:02 That's a fucking bummer. Okay. I don't know what video games want from me anymore. I thought what they would do is if you do really good, you just hit the next phase and the next phase starts. But there's so little for you to do here. It's just a spreadsheet, like click and map. I missed out on a phase of my spreadsheet.
Starting point is 01:19:25 Oh, man. You know, that game's great. Performances are super excellent. Very excited to talk to you. kind of when you're done. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's not a whole lot of meat on the interim.
Starting point is 01:19:39 And it won't take long, you know. I appreciate the, like, although I did kind of start. You're banging out in one, though the last episode is longer. Well, I started episode three thinking it would be an hour and it was an hour and a half, you know, so I was like, ah, fuck, okay. Like, that one trailed of it. But in general, yeah, it is good for stream formatting when it comes to the length of things. we will encounter what else has to happen. I'm glad I actually stopped at three because now I can fully prepare.
Starting point is 01:20:07 You can do like four, five, six, and then seven, eight, probably. There's also something to like, when you put censorship on where it's like, okay, we're doing this comedic black bar style. And it's not fast enough. It can't follow Toxics dick fast enough. Like, it's just, you know, like, there's ways to go about. it like blur if you need to blur or cyberpunk it's just gone entirely etc but nah
Starting point is 01:20:36 we're gonna put a goofy fucking giant black bar that chases you around and here's this old man ass I think the funniest thing is that like there's two sections of the game where if you have a black if you have the censored thing is it just makes the entire screen black
Starting point is 01:20:52 like it just blacks out the whole screen and it's like well that doesn't you're not You're not covering it up. You're just, okay, whatever. Yeah. Anyway, so, yeah, that was dispatch. I'm going to take a look at more of that as soon as I get the chance.
Starting point is 01:21:12 But it won't be this week because this week is pretty busy. So, stuff going on this week. Stuff going on. So, yeah, tune in tomorrow. We're going to be playing some more Expedition 33. And we're fucking booking it, man. We're making moves. You getting ready for the sweep?
Starting point is 01:21:28 one accent down and the sweep is yeah the sweep exactly the swithereep uh this thursday um so expedition 33 tomorrow and then on thursday night the tgAs the t t tgAs um whatever that desert Satan is i have some news about that ah okay uh and um i'm gonna have to uh go make some predictions even though I did not like play all the things that might be contenders this year. But whatever. I played like most of what is on the list this year. And did you play Expedition 33? I sure did.
Starting point is 01:22:15 You're probably good. Oh, come, whoop, you know. I'm just thinking at some point. Me and Page did our list. I'm probably going to go back before and like change it a little bit to add more Expedition 33 onto my guess. Well, I just would also imagine that at some point a Toby Fox or a Kojima might also get some flowers at a Jeff Keely show. I think Jeff Keely will give the flowers to Kojima that are at the back of his mouth behind his molars. There's flowers back there.
Starting point is 01:22:53 There's flowers back there. Yeah. So I'm assuming that, you know, whatever is going to come of that is going to be. like, hey, I didn't get around to death striding too yet, so we'll see. Yeah. Beyond that, though, just to, I guess so, yeah, that'll be Thursday. And then on Saturday, we're slop streaming. So no fighting games this week.
Starting point is 01:23:16 We're just going to slop it up, the return of the list. So tune in. It'll be a good time. And then, yeah, the dispatch will come through perhaps the week after that when we get back to it. Okay. If you want to submit stuff, by the way, you still can. you know, whether through socials or the Reddit group, we've got the two sides there.
Starting point is 01:23:37 So send it all, send it all over. And, yeah, and tune in. That's it. Woolly versus on Twitch and on YouTube. Oh, yeah, look, I mean, we've been playing our dills, our wordels and our Rule 34 dolls and all that stuff. That's over on the chill stream. You can check out that.
Starting point is 01:23:59 We'll be putting some clips up. It's good stuff. There's some clips. Yeah. There's some... Have a good time. I had a great time watching some of that content.
Starting point is 01:24:12 What did you see? Wully, you know more people in your personal life that want to fuck fallout characters than you do say. So I complete...
Starting point is 01:24:27 Did you think my wife was just a one in a million freakazoid? I was not thinking... D'Aul alone! I completely forgot about the show. I was just thinking of... Oh my God!
Starting point is 01:24:38 That's an even crazier! I completely forgot about the show. I was just thinking of the games on that when that box art popped up. It completely fucking... I'm thinking of the... Yeah. When it puts it all together, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:53 Fair enough. Oh, man. You're a crazy guy. You're a crazy guy. You got to update your Giac. graphic goon map. I've seen a couple things over the years, but I guess it's just stuff from Fallout, either I didn't register what the monster was, or perhaps it just hasn't broke the level of containment that some of the other horny stuff. Because Elizabeth broke horny containment, Mercy broke horny containment, you know, and I don't think I've encountered stuff from Fallout that broke horny containment.
Starting point is 01:25:31 Snick! Snec, broke horny containment. Here's the thing. Things don't have to break containment. They just have to live in their own fairly, extremely large bubbles. I hesitate to use the word bubble here because Fallout is like broadly popular, right? This actually is just feeding into the same discussion of I couldn't figure out how to explain Skyrim to you. like like that this discussion actually like lives in that box i guess there's this like huge
Starting point is 01:26:07 swath that you just dodged yeah i i i you know i i guess you can continue people can continue to underestimate uh or overestimate how little i know about fallout like i really i couldn't tell you much you know i know like some like being living in my house right now i know i know know so much about the second season of fallout. Like, I had a moment where it's like, I hate it. I hate it when you get frustrated about something. And then the person you're talking to just proves you super, super wrong. And then you feel like really dumb for getting frustrated.
Starting point is 01:26:46 Because Paige is watching every interview that you can get a hold of about the second season of fallout, right? And I'm like, man, I fucking hate interviews. Every interview before a fucking TV show is totally pointless because all they do is lie. and then every single day she comes up to me with like a fucking list of like this is going to happen and this is going to happen and this is going to happen and this is how this character's arc is going to go
Starting point is 01:27:06 and this is how this character's arc is going to go and this person can't be trusted with spoilers and this person can be trusted with spoilers and this actor laughs and this actor shuts her out. Oh and promotional material okay, okay. Damn, that's crazy. So she's like, good example. You can't listen to Ella Prunel because Ella Prunel
Starting point is 01:27:24 is like a Tom Holland type in which they don't tell her what's going to happen and she only reads her lines because she can't be trusted to do an interview. Okay. I have stupid questions. I have stupider answers. Okay.
Starting point is 01:27:41 So... You know me. You know I have a stupid answer ready. Yeah, I mean, that's what this whole show is about. So, who is the most popular named character from Fallout? The most popular named character from Fallout ever? Pit Boy?
Starting point is 01:27:55 Ever. Or? Well, Pit Boy is actually Walton Gagons now. Okay. So that, aside from, I guess, the, the logo character, the, the mascot. Are we talking about, um, named character as in, like, Robert House? Or are we, like, we're talking like a human being character? So, what I'm, I'm...
Starting point is 01:28:18 So, um, um, what should I call it? Or pornography. Are we talking about pornography? I guess I'm just talking about general zeitgeist because if I say Overwatch and I go Oh mercy right Or if I go by a shock and go Oh yeah Elizabeth was someone there right
Starting point is 01:28:33 And then and then even if I go to like Skyrim or stuff And you've got your fucking whatever The Fusra da Of your main your main dudes Whatever Anyway, Geralt for the Witcher There's usually a name there's things just
Starting point is 01:28:49 So in Fallout the whole franchise Is there like what's the most known named character? in your opinion. Nobody. It's a setting-based narrative. Okay. Okay. Individual characters are not actually important.
Starting point is 01:29:03 Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So that's that feeling that I kind of... This question is coming from the fact that, like, I have to go... I can't think of any thing. You can't. So like the dog meets a character in a lot of games.
Starting point is 01:29:17 The playable character from New Vegas is named the Courier, et cetera. And that reason is enough for me to go, And here's the thing. Here's the thing. Reggie sitting next to you was dead on the money. The reason why Fallout has a presence on the pornography world is because Fallout has unique named monsters that people want to fuck on. So the death clause was a joke from last week because we did power skedle and death clause popped up. and neither of us knew what that was. And it was on the power scaling versus thing.
Starting point is 01:30:00 And we're like, oh, it's a fallout monster. They're like, yeah, it's a, you know, it's a popular fallout monster. I was like, oh, shit, okay. So we, so that came back because we just learned that a couple days prior, right? You got your ghouls, you got your super mutants, you got your death claws, um, you got your, uh, rovatrons, your assaultrons, and fish. The robot. Okay.
Starting point is 01:30:28 Because like, for example, like, you know, if I'm going to, again, use another franchise and talk about like
Starting point is 01:30:36 character popularity and stuff, it's like, this is a case where Leara is a known popular, you know, character, and a lot of people want to fuck some blue ass.
Starting point is 01:30:46 They're all about it. But... For when your mild curry is too spicy. However, right for when that Jamaican patty's just
Starting point is 01:30:58 too hot for you you can't deal with this but but like in that case I you know even before like knowing and stuff
Starting point is 01:31:07 there's things where you're like okay they'll it'll be about Leara whereas here it's like not that it's Asari
Starting point is 01:31:13 as a broad class yeah is what people would be into I'm gonna tell you this the the the vault suit carries like a lot
Starting point is 01:31:21 like you watch the first season of fall Ella Prunel looks really hot in that suit. Period. That's it. Okay. That's like a huge proportion of it.
Starting point is 01:31:34 Okay. And I think, I think that, the question as to like, it's not about the characters, it's about the setting is why I, when I think of like people getting horny for fallout, no one comes to mind. Thus I go, I have no fucking idea. So like a real example. But I see Zangyfendo's muscles, though. So for a really good example is Skyrim.
Starting point is 01:31:55 actually has a weirdly enormous amount of pornography made from it, despite the fact that I could not tell you a single character's name in Skyrim after beating that game twice. And that's because people used the mod engine to just create sex houses to goon to. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. 3D environment, go nuts, do your thing. And like, again, Doviken is a thing that is out there, as least in named form.
Starting point is 01:32:19 Like, you got that. But a lot of the other, franchises and stuff that I've that I definitely people are horny for they'll say like you know yennifer or they'll they'll be they'll be examples of like this tag. Oh yeah. Okay. So Witcher is a character centric franchise and the reason it's a character centric franchise is because it's based off a famous book series.
Starting point is 01:32:40 Yeah. Also there's fucking literally booty cards in the first game and they're like they're all about to sex. And also the Witcher series can have literally any fantasy creature you've ever heard of in it at all. Like it's it runs the entire fucking game. Okay, that explains it. How could you forget about DaGoole? I mean, I'll tell you.
Starting point is 01:33:06 My baby, my two-year-old will go. Mommy loves DaGoole sometimes. I will also say that like the power emitted by one person in one location on the other side of Canada, is there is enough aura coming from just that one to combat the numbers that other. tags might put up. Well, the other thing, you have to remember, and this is a really important, this is a really important detail. Much like there is the Black Otaku Council, right?
Starting point is 01:33:37 And the NGC. Illuminati in every special interest groups like Secret Cabal, if you know one person who is like waving the big ass fucking ghoul flag, there are many, many others hiding deep, deep underground, hatching their schemes. But sometimes, sometimes, yes, but other times I think it's just a power number, right? So, for example, let's say the question was Vaporion versus Rescheram. I don't want to have this conversation anymore. The number is going to be higher on Vaporion, but the Rescheram number, you know the power within that one. That dude's for life.
Starting point is 01:34:24 The power of that one, Trump's. All 15,000 of those casual Vaporion dippers. I think he's right. Power. Okay, well, congrats. I want to leave this conversation fast now. I played a couple other things this week of note. Three of note.
Starting point is 01:34:50 I played Metroid Prime 4. I did not get that far. I played it for one session. I'll go back to it at some point. A little bit. Rose. What's that? Watched it just a little bit.
Starting point is 01:35:01 I play it for about four and a half hours. Here's a weird question for a Nintendo game. How did it run? Great. Incredible. Switch two? Perfect. No issues.
Starting point is 01:35:13 Everything. Okay. Were you playing on screen or held? Oh, I streamed it. So I was playing on the, on doc mode. Great. Okay. I picked the 4K one because the chat can't see 120 FPS.
Starting point is 01:35:27 I can't see that shit. Right. Ran immaculately. And a couple things that are really funny. Samus is in a new location, so Samus needs to get new stuff. And every single fucking upgrade she gets is psychic thing. Yeah, purple, purple thing. But no, like they're literally called psychic boot, psychic ball, psychic ball.
Starting point is 01:35:52 Like every single thing is a psychic. It's really funny. On top of that. I ran into your friend in mine, Miles McKenzie, the Federation officer who chit chats to Sammis over the radio. And I got everything that I wanted out of him because every single time he talks to Samus, she completely refuses to speak to him in any way. In almost every cutscene that they are in, she doesn't even look at him. she refuses to pull the visor down it's like he's a non-human
Starting point is 01:36:32 like he's like a goddam sign like doesn't give a shit even a little like I said last week you can imply dialogue without showing it and then you can just have actually I'm staring at you awkwardly as you have a one-sided conversation I don't want to talk to you at all Miles McKenzie
Starting point is 01:36:52 um I did the first tutorial area and I got through the first run of the first like opener area called the Voltforge raised by alien birds by the way. Yeah
Starting point is 01:37:08 and it's a fine game and it's visually very pretty and I'm enjoying metroading through the area I I'm not really getting what I want out of a Metroid game
Starting point is 01:37:28 and I talked kind of at length about the I have really weird opinions on Metroid like the I'm standing up in Congress Norman Rockwell like hot take man is that I think old man like I don't like all of the really beloved Metro it's like I don't care about Super Metroid at all right and that is the hottest take that is the the hottest take I mean I don't care about it as more. acceptable than like I hate it or I don't like to play it I think it's really cool and I think it's wildly important but I actually don't like playing Super Metroid and the reason for that is you wait hold on hold on Willie I'm not gonna get a fucking that's fine no no no no no it's not an eye roll it's damage it's just damage that's fair um so no the reason why I think that is because I came to the Metroidvania genre backwards so most people got to Metroidvania by playing Metroid games and hey look
Starting point is 01:38:32 Castlevania's like Metroid now. Right. I love Castlevania and then Castlevania got weird and really awesome and I went, why is Castlevania Symphony of the Night so weird and different now and I was then told
Starting point is 01:38:47 oh because they made it like Metroid so I oh I should play Metroid because that's what these are like and my first thing is why doesn't it control as good as a of the night. Well, it's because it's a game that's like, 10. But like, I want it. I like, yeah. I like the controls of Castlevania better than I like the controls of Metroid. Right. It's, this is, this is just brutal, this is a brutal timeline for you, man.
Starting point is 01:39:13 I'm well aware, because you are the, you are the person who is at the full opposite end of that fucking diagram because Castlevania starts the Symphony of the Night. Sure does. Right. So, like, we are the polar opposites on this fucking. diagram, right? And then I play Metroid Prime 1 and 2, and I fucking love Metroid Prime 1 and 2. I think they're great. I think Dread is amazing. And I play this, and I'm like, it's
Starting point is 01:39:46 not harming me the way Metroid 3 did, Metro Prime 3 did. Metroid Prime 3 harmed me. It hurt my wrists. And I did not care for the waggle or the aiming. So the old only thing that I got out of that control scheme for Metroid Prime 3 was that it harmed me. So this game does not harm
Starting point is 01:40:06 me because I can play it with this nice switch controller that plays like a regular controller, right? It is a lot more like Metroid Prime 3 than it is like Metroid Prime 1 and 2. Oh. I played it for about five hours
Starting point is 01:40:22 and I never got lost. Okay. And it very much feels like the areas are built like Zelda Dungeons. Like you're going through what is essentially mostly a linear path
Starting point is 01:40:36 and solving puzzles and fighting enemies and you'll use your new upgrade to traverse it and solve puzzles. And everywhere you look there's things you can't do yet because you don't have the upgrade to do it.
Starting point is 01:40:52 Of course. But you can see that they lead to missile upgrades. You can see that they lead to energy tanks. And it's like, this is all come back here to get more stuff and not come back here
Starting point is 01:41:05 because you're absolutely fucking completely lost and you don't know where to fucking go to get your next upgrade. Like in Metroid Prime 1 and 2, I was fucking lost,
Starting point is 01:41:17 man. I was just scraping up and fucking down until the system took pity and was like, maybe you should fucking go look in this zone. Okay.
Starting point is 01:41:27 Right? It's a fine game It plays well It sounds great The combat's fun I'm not getting What I want out of it So I want a lost
Starting point is 01:41:40 Wandering area So what it is here is it's a dungeon Connected to the desert And the desert is a gigantic Empty fucking pile of shit With nothing in it Other than green crystals You can get for completion
Starting point is 01:41:53 And like one objective And the desert sucks and having to buy a $30 Silas Amibo to turn music on in the desert Oh my gosh Really really fucking soured me on it Come on really Yes
Starting point is 01:42:11 And people are going to say Well if you get 100% scan You can no that's not true That's not true The only way you're turning real music on in that desert Is to buy the Silics amoeuvre Jesus fucking Christ That's gross
Starting point is 01:42:26 that sucks. I was going to ask, like, did you fight a boss that was using the psychic abilities to do some cool shit as your want to do in a Nintendo game like this? I fought my run against Silics, right? My Virgil won against Silics. And I had to use, like, a huge amount of my kit that I had up until that point to beat him. And that was really cool. but it's just really linear. It's just really, really linear.
Starting point is 01:43:01 I have a photo that I can send to you. God, just as you're saying that, yeah, like, one of the most defining important aspects of Metroid Prime is the music. So any fuckery involving taking it away from you is criminal. So I have sent you a photo of the first area in Metroid Prime versus like the Yeah Yeah In four and it's like they look like straight lines with little branches off them
Starting point is 01:43:35 Choso ruins versus they don't loop back on themselves The backtracking is for Items That's a complete map Yeah Yeah Uh okay I do have to say to as we're like talking about like
Starting point is 01:43:53 like Metro Prime 3. When I think back on it, a big part of my bummer besides shitty wrist stuff was I find like Dark Samus to be a really lame rival. And so the buildup around her
Starting point is 01:44:09 was all just uninteresting to me and thus I'm bummed out when I think about that chapter of things. So you know what's funny? That is one of my big complaints here. Okay. Silics? No.
Starting point is 01:44:21 my complaint is I'm playing the game for multiple hours I'm like oh can't wait for them to introduce phazon to which chat says they've done multiple interviews to saying that Dark Samus and the phazon thing is completely over I'm like then they shouldn't call
Starting point is 01:44:37 this fucking game Metroid Prime because that is the final boss of all three games and the reason it's called that or the essence of Metroid Prime you know yeah I I'm just thinking of the not only was that like one of those lame dark shadow characters that is like I remember there was an
Starting point is 01:44:57 excitement back in the day with like oh shit you know mirror link and stuff and you know but then like there's there's times where it just gets played out and it becomes a trope that's just not done in an interesting way and the thing with Samus in particular with dark Samus is like you did an infinitely cooler version of this called the say X right like the SAX in Metroid Fusion was your old suit getting possessed by a virus and it was way more interesting as a rival character because it was a haunting thing that was chasing you throughout the game, you know, like the Emmys were. It wasn't
Starting point is 01:45:32 just this other nebulous force to have a showdown with. It was... Well, the other thing, you know, it's a problem is like, I love that Samus doesn't talk. I think that's like a great defining feature. But the problem is, is the Dark Samus also doesn't fucking talk because they're like a Metroid. So like you have the antagonist and the hero square off and fucking say nothing to each. Yeah, I, that's it. That's it. Like, you know, the idea of, again, as someone who loves the rivals and stuff, it's got to be compelling. And in this case, you know, Fusion did a rival that felt like
Starting point is 01:46:05 fucking Mr. X coming after you. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, that's a way, way better way to do it. And then you're coming in with the, with your own weak version of it in the third game was just like, meh. But anyway, that being said, it's been a really long time since a prime game, so there's a level of like, I'm giving a lot of like benefit and leeway to just be like, okay, can you scratch some of this itch though? I feel like the game's extraordinary development time has really harmed my perception of it because a lot of games have come out since Metroid Prime 3 and now that gave me what I wanted out of Metroid Prime in general. Like, bro, Hollow Knight came out after fucking Metroid Prime 3, dude.
Starting point is 01:46:59 The whole fucking Hollow Night Silk Song fucking thing is in between the release of 3 and 4. And also, I'd say just in terms of like, you know, like big Nintendo releases, like a minute ago, like Donkey Kong came out and you were just kind of like, Yo, this is great. Doggy Kong's fucking great. And that's it. No strings attached.
Starting point is 01:47:19 No strings attached, no notes. Doggy Kong fucking rules. Yeah, I really like to Dread. I really enjoyed that. I was hoping for something as good as Dread. And I go, I'm, go play Dred again. It's good. Well, um,
Starting point is 01:47:37 2D, 2D Metroid, you know, still, still holds over, still holds the crown over, over fucking Prime. I think Metroid Prime 1 is probably, the best game that studio ever made and that's fucking weird because it was the first one. Like Metroid Prime remastered on the switch is probably a straight up better game than Metroid Prime 4.
Starting point is 01:48:00 I'll go side. I'll go side. Hey, can you memory check me? In Metroid Prime when you were to, when you were doing a platforming and you were like jumping from one thing to the next, did Sammas tilt her head down
Starting point is 01:48:16 to look at the platform? so that she'd land on it more easily? No. I don't recall that being a thing. Because I remember that. Did she? I don't remember. And she did?
Starting point is 01:48:35 Yes, she did. Okay, a lot of people saying, yeah, I don't remember that. Okay. That was a really cool detail. Because it was like a way to like make sure that you could always platform correctly. Okay. Okay. And that was also because of the way the GameCube controller worked and it sucked for dual analog. And I'm playing Metroid Prime 4 and I'm like, I have regular dual analog controls.
Starting point is 01:49:02 I'm like, I kind of miss that because I thought it was a really cool. A little look down. Yeah. I did play two other games that I don't have any qualms about recommending at all because they're fucking incredible. I got sent to code for Skate Story. Have you seen Skate Story? Absolutely. So full version is finally out, right?
Starting point is 01:49:26 Yep, you played Skate Story? I played the full demo. How long is that demo? So the demo is a long demo. It's like the first half hour of the game or so. Okay. I played the first two full levels. Like I got two moons.
Starting point is 01:49:43 Poetic writing, trippy atmosphere. Unbelievable. Unbelievable visuals. tight controls It's incredible Yeah this is a work of art You feel the authorship David Eng I think was his name
Starting point is 01:50:00 The creator Like his name is on it Something Eng Something Eng Yeah A Skate Story just in one fell swoop Playing that I walked by Sam Eng
Starting point is 01:50:10 Sam Eng Sam Eng Sam Eng yeah I walked by that at the On the show floor And was like What the fuck am I looking at And then you go and just touch it And you're like, okay, someone decided to do their own kind of skate thing.
Starting point is 01:50:22 It's not just Tony Hawking or whatever, but it's like, yeah, trippy drug, you know, fucking visuals. You are a demon. You're made of glass. And every time you wipe out, you shatter into a million pieces. You just explode to a million pieces. And the camera follows the skateboard into the distance, you know. Yeah, it's visually incredible. It's narratively interesting.
Starting point is 01:50:45 It's incredibly well written. It has a killer soundtrack. It controls excellently. is a totally unique idea. Like, like, it just hits on every level. And it's fucking awesome. And it's got that, that, um, weirdo, Suda, sweary, uh, Anapurna, like, artsy game confusion, abstract nonsense thing going for it, which is like, it's just beautiful here,
Starting point is 01:51:09 you know, the soundtrack I remember was also fucking sick. Um, yeah, uh, Skate Story. I was, I was immediately captivated by that, but I just didn't know when the full game is dropping. So it seems like it just came out. Big recommend on that. The only thing I would say is when you're playing it is that I had Tony Hawkbrain
Starting point is 01:51:28 when I was playing it. So you'll fight like a boss and it'll be like do a bunch of tricks and then do an ender to hurt the boss and I was like I was trying to do like manual kickflip, manual shove it, manual, grind, manual whatever. And then I would do one bar of damage
Starting point is 01:51:46 to the boss. And then the next time I'd do kickflip, pop, shove it and do one bar of damage to the... Like, it it wants you to navigate and do a couple cool tricks. It doesn't want you to
Starting point is 01:52:02 full speed combo around the fucking world. It plays a little bit like skate in that way too, more so. And it wants you to grind and do more tricky grinds and jumps than it wants you to, yes, go to one spot and just go
Starting point is 01:52:18 burr, burr, bur, you know. But it is, it is incredible. It's absolutely fucking phenomenal. And, yeah, and I mean, you know, there's a couple other, like, because, like, Escape Burb is another one, or Skate Bird, rather, is one of those games that, I don't know if it came out yet, I don't think so. But it's a Tony Hawk with a bird. It's cute.
Starting point is 01:52:37 It's fun. Yeah. But you don't, you don't have to, like, reroute too much of, like, what you already know how to do, you know, playing that. And there was another one. one that I played on Steam the other day that was a skating adventure game that crashed and was just not ready
Starting point is 01:52:54 I forget what the fuck it was called but it was, it seemed like it was going to be like a skating adventure game but whatever it was this thing is fucking super worth it. This looks great. It's fucking stellar. It's fucking super cool. Now granted
Starting point is 01:53:12 I did get the game for free but it doesn't matter. That game is fucking awesome. So this is the total opposite. I did a stream of this and routine, which is the total opposite of my playtest stream, because both of these games are fucking incredible.
Starting point is 01:53:30 So routine has been in development for 13 years. I believe it is the game that alien isolation is based off of, which is a crazy thing to say. This game that was in development before. Yeah. Okay. Routine takes place in space on de moon, on a lunar, on a lunar, on a lunar base.
Starting point is 01:54:02 And it is, it is the furthest expression of cassette futurism I have ever seen. If you're familiar with that aesthetic, it's cassette futurism is easiest explained to people who don't know. it is explained by what the people in the 80s who are doing the sets for Alien thought the future we're going to look like. So floppy disks, VHS tapes, CRT, bulky plastic padding, etc. What came after Jetson's futurism, basically? I would say this is the furthest into cassette futurism I've ever seen. I would go so far as to almost call it CRT punk. It is like obsessed.
Starting point is 01:54:47 Like there are so many VHS tapes everywhere. It is a spooky horror game on the moon in which you wake up and you're alone in a empty space station or moon base. And you quickly discover that the robots that run the station are attempting to separate your head from your shoulders. And this is the type of game
Starting point is 01:55:12 where it's not about concept, it's about execution. All the little pieces fit together to make something larger than the greater hole. So, the first thing that you get is your gun. But it's not a gun, it's a maintenance tool. And so when I say that,
Starting point is 01:55:28 people's brains go to dead space and they think of Isaac Clark's fucking plasma cutter as a, you know, engineering tool to cut things apart. No, this is actually a maintenance tool. The only thing this can do is zap a little bit of electricity to like trip a fuse box. like that's it like that's
Starting point is 01:55:44 you know it shoots a little zap and it'll open a door maybe if you hit the fuse box it has a CRT monitor on the back of the gun that has a refresh rate of half a frame a second
Starting point is 01:55:56 so as you aim it and move it around it struggles to keep up with what you're pointing at and will like have vertical uh vertical sync issues and it's a piece of shit
Starting point is 01:56:09 CRT monitor on the back of this thing but also it works as your Wi-Fi terminal. So you can aim this and shoot it to do your little zap, or you can hit a triangle or Y or whatever it is on the keyboard to pull open the side of your device and switch it to Wi-Fi pairing mode. Okay. Which will link up to local projectors
Starting point is 01:56:33 and give you a computer screen on the projector, not on your device, on the projector, which you use a mouse and keyboard to interact with. or you can flip out a piece and put in like a viewfinder in it to read things that you wouldn't otherwise be able to read. But when you do that, it turns off the spark shot ability. So if you want to turn it back on, you have to open it up, move the mouse, flip up the module, and then lock it back into electricity mode. And you're doing all of this in a spooky environment. With no time, no pause, no.
Starting point is 01:57:08 Yes, yes. So it's, and on top of that, if you get too close to certain types of machinery, your CRT monitor on the back of your gun will start to freak out and you have to degoss it. You have to move your mouse to a button and hit the degoss button and hear that friendly old, as it degosses. I'm watching the trailer and when I see we're saying what alien isolation is based on, I fucking feel it. Because obviously the level, because like Alien World Tech is doing the same thing with. a lot of this type of CRT screens and yeah like horrible frame rate and old ancient you know technology but also this is like 99% vibes yeah um like game you don't have an inventory yeah gameplay is really just first person walking around and a really really well designed environment
Starting point is 01:57:59 and setting and it's delivering that that's cool okay interesting so uh your your little zapper has three shots before needing to a new battery You can't keep extra batteries on you. And there are batteries everywhere. So they really don't want you to be stressing about inventory. They don't want you to be stressing about these things. It's literally just exist. And when you need it, pick it up, deal with it.
Starting point is 01:58:22 The enemies are the other part of like dealing with like the total completeness of it. In that the enemies are eight foot tall humanoid robots that make an extraordinarily loud stomping. noise as they walk around. So everywhere in your vicinity, you will hear, stomp, stop, stop, stop. And the audio has excellent positional tracking. Like, you can tell, like, pretty much
Starting point is 01:58:51 exactly where they are. They have a little battery on their chest that have used shoot and zap. They will turn off. You cannot harm them. You can only turn them off for 15 to 20 seconds. the other thing is that you have no way to physically defend yourself if they catch you
Starting point is 01:59:13 and they will run their routes and they will examine things that make a noise but they are also and this is really important dumb as shit if you hide under a table and it didn't see you go under the table you're fucking safe go around a corner and it didn't see you go around the corner and it's outside of its path you're fucking safe if you block the view well you know sometimes when they're looking for you they'll do that like red line like cone thing. If you're not in it, you're safe. It's not a problem.
Starting point is 01:59:46 They're not xenomorphs. No. But what they are is ever present. You can't kill them. You hear them constantly. They're usually in your way. And it makes this really, really excellent thing where you'll see one. You'll duck around a corner and you'll, you know, hit the button to lean and peek out. and wait for them to turn off.
Starting point is 02:00:10 The other thing that really, really like makes it work is that they don't even have a vision cone. They have a vision line. Like they have like a direct line. There's no cone. It's crazy how blind they are. So you feel like
Starting point is 02:00:26 you can get around them other than the fact that they're everywhere and they're a problem. You can't hurt them. They also will finish their patrols and turn off. So they will do their route and then find a spot in like a hallway and then just depower
Starting point is 02:00:42 and go rigid and I have no idea what causes them to stay like that or for how long so you end up having to like crawl through doorways around them and I have no idea what turns them on or not I think it's time
Starting point is 02:00:58 I think they're turned off for like a certain amount of time but unless you saw them turn off you have no idea how long they've been doing that for them. Right right right yeah okay and it just makes this really, really, really excellent mix between what I would call panic horror, which is amnesia, where you can't defend yourself at all, and survival horror in which you can eliminate enemies,
Starting point is 02:01:19 right? You can defend yourself, but you also can't actually harm enemies. It's so interesting how this is all just, again, it's not concept, it's just execution, as you said. It's just really well done scary. They move at the right speed. You can outrun them, but your movement speed when you're not sprinting is really slow. It's all these little details. One of the first things that really stands out is that the game's first tutorial puzzle is teaching you that not only can you lean, not only can you crouch, you can crouch, you can crouch and then stick your head like on the floor to look under your deep furniture. And you can stand up on your tiptoes.
Starting point is 02:02:03 Nice. Okay. Wow. Like being able to see something while they can't see you is like a huge part of the gameplay. It's excellent. Also, it is great. This feels like this environment feels like you're running around in Estromo. Absolutely.
Starting point is 02:02:16 That is very clear. Very good game. Super cool. And that's what I did this week. Oh, of note. This is Caboos the Dogs Gotcha week. This is one year of caboose this week. Oh.
Starting point is 02:02:35 Oh, okay. We have had caboose for one year. Exactly. I was like, is he SSR? He is. Yeah. Did you pull? Damn, okay.
Starting point is 02:02:49 Yeah. Gotcha. I've never heard that term before. Because it feels like I've had this dog forever. But nope, just one year. Hey, congrats. Happy Gotcha. All right.
Starting point is 02:02:59 Well, how about Caboose? Gautcha. Caboos has got to go pee. Got a pee out of his bladder, yeah. Yeah, I'm just a little baby. Go do that. All right, beer beer you. Hello, let's take a quick word from our sponsors.
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Starting point is 02:17:01 you ever see people like fucking, like trying to recreate like an olive garden recipe or some restaurant's recipe in there. I can't get it to taste the same. And chefs come in and be like, that's because you care about being alive. Throw an entire fucking stick of butter into the pan. I don't give a shit if you live or die.
Starting point is 02:17:19 I'm just cooking it to hit a certain taste. Yep. Someone we knew worked as a sous chef. that was basically just like the way that steaks taste at restaurants is better because they take the whole steak and dip it in butter and then... They don't care
Starting point is 02:17:34 about you being alive. And then they grill it. Just take the meat and dip it in them. That's all they do. That's why it tastes so much better. It's not a mystery. Nevertheless, I don't recommend a stick of butter, but can I perhaps
Starting point is 02:17:50 offer you a stick of ram? No, I can't afford. it. Are you sure? I can't afford that shit. Well, what about now? No. Oh, I can afford it even less.
Starting point is 02:18:02 Well, now? So, we are... In our intersection, we call AIs ruining fucking everything again. Enjoy this current moment. Chipflation has been upon us, and it's always been pretty rough. I mean, ever since we've been talking about the fucking NVIDIA, you know, debacles and shit for a couple years now. But it's gotten so stupid as AI is affecting the industry and making it impossible to buy things.
Starting point is 02:18:33 And the prices are in the process of getting bat shit crazy. So a couple seconds ago, people were looking at like 400 bucks for 32 gigs of DDR5, 64 gigs, going for over 900 in some instances. And getting worse on Black Friday. way worse. Way worse. Times where you're like, just wait for Blackfright.
Starting point is 02:18:59 No, idiot. It's going to explode five times more. So it's the whole market's fucked. And it's... Yeah, so what's happening is that RAM manufacturers are just deciding to sell directly to AI data centers
Starting point is 02:19:11 and open AI and whatnot. Yeah. Instead of the consumer. So there's less left over for you. And this is two things to this week in particular. One, Samsung is
Starting point is 02:19:23 so desperate and the market is so fucked that Samsung will not sell to Samsung. There is definitely sustainable.
Starting point is 02:19:41 Let's sell all of our stuff to companies that don't make money and make sure that our own sister companies can't make their own products. Samsung Electronics tried to get their ram from Samsung semiconductors and Samsung semiconductors
Starting point is 02:20:01 refused the order for the new galaxy phones that they were producing because go fuck yourself, we cannot and we will not sell it to even you. So you can't get a computer so you can't use AI. You can't, you've gotten to get a new phone. So let me get this straight. Gen Alpha and Gen Z are killing the iPhone market by holding on to their phones for
Starting point is 02:20:23 longer, but also you can't even buy a new phone because they can't get the RAM to even manufacture them? Well, yeah, I mean... This is somehow the consumer's fault? Oh, well, you know, we don't forget that like millennials killed the family style restaurant. Yeah, I remember.
Starting point is 02:20:38 Eastside Mario's is dead because of us. I'd like to, I'd like to, uh, uh, uh, swoop in on this. Um, in addition, um, to this being the biggest bubble that's ever been, uh, there is some evidence. to support the claim that Nvidia is selling
Starting point is 02:20:59 its own GPUs to some of these AI companies ahead of need or demand and they're literally just sitting in the millions in warehouses because the data centers that would use them don't exist and can't exist
Starting point is 02:21:21 because the power draw would crash the grid. Okay. So, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me give you a really, rough version of this. Okay, let me give you a really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really rough version. The demand is for an impossible output. Okay, so, AI company that invidia has stock in orders in orders, orders cards from invidia. invidia then sells the cards to AI company who puts them in a warehouse the money goes to invidia which increases invidia's stock because they're making lots of revenue which they then use
Starting point is 02:22:10 to invest in the AI company that bought the cards from themselves yeah this is going to work out fucking great Oh, everyone deserves everything that's coming to them. If you're, if you are a Seinfeld fan, this is literally the racket that George Castan... Vandalay? No, no, to buy a bunch of computers from his dad's company so that he gets the promotion over the other guy.
Starting point is 02:22:44 And then he's about to return the computers afterwards. And then Kramer destroys all of them. So let's ignore the part where Kramer destroys all of them. So let's ignore the part where Kramer destroys all of them. him, if George did try and return all the computers he bought with his fake company to his dad, his dad's company would go under. It would go bankrupt. I'm like, I can't believe we're in a state where like things were better when the scalping bots and assholes were the worst you have to worry about because they were trying to grab as much as they could off video cards for crypto.
Starting point is 02:23:20 and now you're just in a whole other realm of no, straight to the manufacturer actually. And this is... We are just in the issue right now of a bunch of rich people have made a fake product and are selling pieces of that fake product to each other in a big circle to commit check fraud. Do you remember the free money glitch thing? Yes, yes, yes, yes. Discovered check fraud at the ATM. And all that fucked over.
Starting point is 02:23:48 Mm-hmm. There is no difference. Between that check fraud and what Nvidia and Open AI are doing with their money now, other than the fact that they have more lawyers and accountants. Guys, also screwing up everything. I discovered the craziest trick. It's nuts. Just a TikTok CEO.
Starting point is 02:24:07 Just being like, so you go and then you make the cards, right? And then you don't actually ship them anywhere. And then you take the money for the order. And then you put it back in the same place that bought it from you. if you can find a Nintendo Switch or a PlayStation and you were thinking about getting one get one as fast as you can the computer that's to my right
Starting point is 02:24:32 it is top of the line as of two years ago and this thing is I thank fucking God I bought it then before all this shit went nuts the prices of every electronic that you could possibly think of is going to just go up up up up up and simultaneously I see a fucking economist article going
Starting point is 02:24:51 So what's up with Gen Z and old technology like the PSP? They can buy it! Well Hey, hey Hey, look All you really need to do as this bullshit's happening
Starting point is 02:25:08 You just need to find a company that you can trust to provide your RAM needs. So fortunately, if you need some RAM I think you should turn to Micron and get yourself get yourself in and buy from them because that'll be the right the that'll be the that'll be they stopping sales to consumers entirely uh yeah actually so you talked about nVIDia and that wasn't even where i was going i was talking about samsung not selling to samsung as a on a journey to the story that is um micron has exited the consumer business entirely they just said fuck cons customers and 100% um um um And in their announcement about this, why is because they're basically going to be spending 100% of their time and resources just direct providing chips to AI companies. And that's going to take all of their time, all their resources.
Starting point is 02:26:07 They have no more need to turn to consumers. They're going to get all their money from AI companies from now on forever. And everything will be great and nothing will ever go wrong. I would like anyone that ever even thinks the phrase the market will provide or the free market, yada, yada needs to remember that we are in the process of, I would say, enduring the largest squander of technical resources that has ever existed in human history. Well, like in terms of technology use straight into the dumpster, there will probably never be any. anything like this again. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:26:51 And they're also, like, in particular, like, while you're watching this era of what's happening and the speculative aspect of it is completely divorced from the other half of this, which is apparently they're also through subsidies and tax breaks already making record profits compared to what they used to. And all of that is basically being passed on to. their AI customers. So there's mega corporation AI customers that are reaping the benefits of that. The fact that the money that they're getting from that makes it worth it for them to exit the market entirely 100% is fucking nuts.
Starting point is 02:27:38 And I guess I don't know what the, I don't know what like when you have a situation like this where It's not even, like you said, it's like the product itself doesn't even matter in the equation. Like, it's one thing to just be like, no, we want to get this, we want to cut out the dealing with the customer entirely and just work straight with the AI companies or whatever. The part where you're describing that like literally there is just a fraud loop happening indefinitely here, it feels like that is like if there's a natural bubble happening indefinitely here, it feels like that is like if there's a natural bubble. popping point that we're looking at, does this not just hyper-accelerate it into like... Yes. It makes the bubble much, much larger. See, the reason why people keep investing is because the stock valuation goes up. So all there needs to be is one singular crisis of faith because the stock market is entirely
Starting point is 02:28:43 based off vibes. So one very large investor has to go, you know what? I'm going to get out while the going is good and pull it. And then other people will pull it. And then the stock will crash, which will cause everyone to pull it. And then Open AI will go from infinite capital through stock to nothing and just go right under. Just go right under. And I don't think there's enough money in the world to actually bail them out because of the way they've been running things. Yeah, no, the phase where you're producing things and they're pretty much going straight into a landfills.
Starting point is 02:29:19 is, if that's not your edge of the cliff, I don't know what is. I saw people comparing Micron, you know, pulling out in this way similar to like what Colt did in the 90s where like they just went 100% with military contracts and then basically went bankrupt immediately afterwards. Think about Konami. Right. Yeah. Like, let's use an example that we're actually much more familiar with.
Starting point is 02:29:46 Didn't die. Konami almost went under because they were like. like Pachinko all the way. Fuck it. Oh shit. Pandemic? Video games. After they fired all their fucking talent.
Starting point is 02:30:00 I'll tell you one thing. Rest in peace then to the other thing is the micron pens that they used to make were really good for art. Known for chips and I guess for really nice fine liner pens. I wonder if that part of their business is also going away forever. I would imagine so. Is it the same micron? Are micron? Is it one of those things where...
Starting point is 02:30:32 Hold on a minute. Because Micron pens, whenever you're doing line art. Are they the same company? They are not the same company. Okay, well, fine. There's also a very minor addition. I do the AI sucks news this week that has nothing to do with RAM. Did you see McDonald's AI commercial for the holidays?
Starting point is 02:31:03 Not yet, no. Well, you can't now because they pulled it down. Oh, yeah, did they? So here's what happened. They put out an AI slop ad that looked like shit for Christmas. And everyone was like, yo, this sucks. This sucks shit and is God awful. to which part McDonald's came out and said, hey, the technology isn't magic.
Starting point is 02:31:27 Our team had to spend seven sleepless weeks working on this AI 30-second ad because we had to do, and they listed off like a hundred different technical things they had to do to make it work. And it's like, okay, wait a second. The AI robot that's going to make everything trivially easy for everyone to do it forever, actually took a team almost two months to slop together. Instead of just shooting a regular fucking commercial, McDonald's would definitely not have taken almost two months to shoot a regular fucking commercial.
Starting point is 02:32:03 They would have bang that shit out in a week. And now that didn't endear them to people because it's such obvious horseshit and now they've taken it down. But can you imagine seven weeks of sleepless nights of prompting? I can. and it sounds miserable. It, dude, it actually sounds absolutely miserable
Starting point is 02:32:24 because it's trying to get a toddler to put the cap back on their fucking cup. It's like, okay, no, put it, put it on. Now turn it, no, grip it with your fingers and push it to end turn it. Like, it's, like every single fucking thing
Starting point is 02:32:41 comes out like shit. And all the clips are like one second long because they can't maintain any continuity. No, what if, what if you add comma hallmark commercial to it. Crazy. Yeah. Crazy.
Starting point is 02:32:52 Well, hey, um, silver light. And that thing that sucks and isn't worth it, hey, it's also absorbing all the world's technology. Like, it's literally eating it. Well, silver lining. The pens are going to be fine. I fucking thought, yeah. Um, you know, you know, when like companies do like one crazy thing and then they, they're
Starting point is 02:33:16 known for doing like one thing, but they just, just one other thing they keep doing. You know, like, um, like Yamaha. They make motorcycles, but they're also like, and we make music shit. And you're like, you do a good job with it. But like, why are you also the motorcycle company? What's going on? Anyway, it's weird.
Starting point is 02:33:36 Um, or Samsung guns. That's a thing. What? Samsung made guns. Oh, they do? Yeah. Samsung's like, yeah, no, we also do that. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:33:48 It's like, what? Anyway, whatever. So, in terms of video games, in the meantime, Checkered Inc is an indie dev that has recently put out a giant 10,000 game asset pack so that developers don't feel the need to turn to AI. It's 10 bucks. You can get it off of their itch.io page. and it's like, yeah, if you need assets and you're desperate for them and you're going to go hit a prompt, just don't hit the prompt, here you go.
Starting point is 02:34:28 Here you can do this, right? Asset flipping is now like the more noble pathway. Asset flipping always was always like defined as buying the shittiest assets you can get and they're doing nothing to them without any hope of cohesion. But now the assets you are buying are made by. human beings, thus it is de facto a better practice than what they're fighting against here. A person who hears this and knows anyone in game development. So that's checkered ink, you said? Yes.
Starting point is 02:35:01 Okay. To let people know that, because by the time you hear this, some shithead has bought that shit and jammed it into the plagiarism machine and will try and pass it off as their own bullshit. of course. So please, by all means, go down to the actual fucking source for its actual real purpose. But yeah, these types of gestures are pretty sick. And hopefully, you know, more of this can be made available because I, you get the feeling that there's a lot of people they're talking to here that are like, if you have to decide between using one,
Starting point is 02:35:45 generating a lot of prompt and not, then you're probably not going to be the type of person who's in the target of this anyway. It's like this... Yeah, because you don't have any integrity at all. It's already in that situation, right? Yeah, you're already like a stupid bad person. But if you have this type of thing, at the very least,
Starting point is 02:36:08 available by, like, you know, different developers and stuff or different groups of people putting out these types of packs where it's like, if you just want to get your game, prototyped if you just want to work on something and you just need assets and you need them quick and you're not even thinking about final you just want to show off something or whatever the case is here right there's no excuse you can just get it very easily readily available so that's a cool move i appreciate that um anyways we're gonna have to stop talking about this on the podcast because eventually i'm gonna let my real opinions come out and i'm gonna get in trouble about what I think should be done with the people running these companies. Ah. Hmm. Hmm.
Starting point is 02:36:56 Yeah. Well. Okay. TOS is a funny thing. Yeah. It's fun. Yeah. It's a funny thing, you know?
Starting point is 02:37:10 Uh, anyway. How about that Netflix? $82 billion deal to acquire a Warner Brothers. This is the worst thing that has ever happened to the film industry in the United States, literally ever. This, if it goes through, is literally the end of going to the movie theater. So the, the headline they announced was announced $82 billion deal to acquire Warner Brothers and commits to continued theatrical releases for studio films.
Starting point is 02:37:46 But if... Oh, Paramount fought over it. Oh, good. That's the second worst thing that could happen to film ever. It's for every movie company to form into an amorphous blob that just all they know how to do is cut costs and not put out movies. Yeah, it's happening and shit gets shelved and shit gets put up, divided by the streamers anyway. I don't see at this point, especially how things have been going. I don't see any way around it. But this means, of course, everyone or brother property.
Starting point is 02:38:20 And people are talking about how, like, you know, everything from fucking NRS, all the recent DC universe, everything. All of it, all of it, all of it, is under that arena. The question is, like, does Netflix then choose to, like, essentially... What incentive do they have to put out movies and theaters? To just... That's what I'm saying. Like, the legacy part of whatever things.
Starting point is 02:38:46 was here is directly competing with your own business, but they've allowed custom deals for people to be like, okay, you get a couple weeks in the theaters before it goes straight to it or so. I don't know. I don't know. Obviously, the play is to make sure that it gets to Netflix first and faster. In some cases, I imagine you're buying out merely to avoid your rival streamers getting these properties, you know, to make sure it doesn't end up on their platform eventually after the initial run. I could see that being a major incentive as to why this type of shit's going through. This story is so inherently economic, political that I don't even know how to approach it.
Starting point is 02:39:33 Like, the Western United States movie industry cannibalizing itself is like a empire-destroying loss of soft power over the world. like the amount of influence that the U.S. has had globally through Hollywood and the exportation of American ideology is unbelievable. It's a civilization culture victory. I would argue that that was already lost when the mouse went the way it did. I would say that what you're describing began with Disney and was already on the way. Meanwhile, I got a code in my email for a fucking C-Drama game on scene called fucking, um, God, what's it called? Uh, revenge on gold diggers.
Starting point is 02:40:35 That looks fucking awesome as shit. Um, yeah, I mean, it's, anyway, the catamari continues to run. roll and whether it rolls internally in America or whether it's rolling over you know, from China or whoever's pushing it. Everything. You've got to get on these sea dramas to get in on the fucking Chinese century early, man.
Starting point is 02:41:10 Look, the mouse will break your knees to make Winnie the Pooh happy and it's just the way it is, all right? South Pooh can suck my ass. South Park addressed it. it. They hit it. They, they, they did their, they did their job. Um, yeah, I feel like, um, we're racing to the Omnicorp and we already were looking at that because I want to say that, we were looking at the five major companies that were, um, in our, in the 90s, like we were, everyone was like, oh, there's GE. There's fucking, you know, the ones that all, Robocop is so good.
Starting point is 02:41:49 Rubocop gets better every year, man. And, and, and, idiosocracy gets worse. Yeah, idiotocracy gets way worse. Because it's turned, right? There was a moment where the like, oh my God, we're living in idiocracy, we're living in idiocracy, it's hap, and it's like, no, because the turn is that in idiocracy, they were just dumb, but they actually, were not evil.
Starting point is 02:42:20 They were just stupid. They were not malicious. They were not actively trying to kill you. They were just unable. Also, ideocracy is like kind of eugenicsy, which is kind of terrifying in its own right. Sure. Don't like it. Sure.
Starting point is 02:42:33 But just, you know, whenever that point comes up, it's like, yeah, they were dumb, but like here you have dumb and evil, which is a completely different mix. I have a question. Mm-hmm. Say your young daughter. is a little older. And she's running through the house with a little, you know, pizza. And she drops that pizza on the ground. And it makes a splat noise.
Starting point is 02:42:58 And she starts laughing hysterically. Is your thought, A, I'm a human being and the pizza fell down and made a funny noise. That's really funny. Or is it B, I don't understand human emotions at their most basic and can't understand the joy of a child. I better look up chat GPT to find out. why my child laughs at dropping their pizza on the floor. Can you live in a world in which you don't use chat GPT to raise your child? Please tell me this is a hypothetical example.
Starting point is 02:43:34 Oh, buddy. Well, uh, fuck. No, it's not. It's not a hypothetical example. One of them AI bros, I think it's Altman. Oh, Sam. Yeah, okay. Right, right.
Starting point is 02:43:55 Going, oh, I can't. How could anyone raise their child without a jet? Hey, do you know what's the most human experience that's ever existed in the history of the world is raising your children? It's literally the single least technological thing you could ever do. Maybe if you had family that still spoke to you, Sam, that they'd be able to help you with your kids. What's more terrifying that sort of situation? or the one where Zuck is like, I don't let my fucking kids use Facebook.
Starting point is 02:44:27 What are you out of your mind? I think that's way, like just, what are you crazy? The thing I sell? I would never unleash that on the people I love. I think my favorite is like the response to that was a very old tweet,
Starting point is 02:44:42 which was CEO of Oreos says Oreos are just as important as oxygen. Right? And like my response, I didn't see the Oreo one. because that's way funnier than what I said, but it was like, children need one gallon of snake oil
Starting point is 02:44:57 a day to survive. I don't know how kids lived without snake oil in their bellies. How'd they even make it to adulthood? It's possible. Yeah, I, like the person who is like, no, we all need to swerve this
Starting point is 02:45:13 into the ship into the rocks and I'm a true believer in this bullshit or the one who's like, are you out of your fucking mind? there's no way I'm giving my my kids that poison. That being said,
Starting point is 02:45:27 I got to tell you, like bluntly, maybe I'm not a lawyer, so I'm sure a lawyer can come out and tell me that I'm an idiot and I don't know how the world works. But I'm of the opinion that everyone who built that
Starting point is 02:45:40 plagiarism robot that told those teenagers to kill themselves should be up on charges for criminally negligent homicide. And I think that any parent that gives their kid some mixture of whatever after chat GP told them to and it harms them that they should also be pulled up on charges for making the robot that tells people that.
Starting point is 02:46:01 If you're a doctor, if you went and spoke to your pediatrician and they said, yeah, just give your two-month-old a big bottle of water every single day and your kid got sick, they'd be responsible. Yeah. I was reading about just,
Starting point is 02:46:28 anyway, the the, the, the, the whole that kid with the dinaris fucking killing himself thing and how a bunch of anyway, it's just there's extraordinarily
Starting point is 02:46:44 like predator driven um AI companies that are specifically looking to find people like that and capitalize on them as much as possible um I imagine
Starting point is 02:47:00 like I don't know if you've seen in New York there was like these these billboards that were like friend.com or some shit like that or some there was a weird thing that like
Starting point is 02:47:12 it was a massive marketing campaign for like this like AI slop shit yeah and it was like but it's talk to your friend over here talk to this app you know report all your
Starting point is 02:47:22 all your taxes and all your crimes to it they were like they were consistently violently vandalized Yes, aggressively so, mostly by people just writing the word feds all over it. And do you know what else, will they? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:47:36 Did you notice that those ads had about 30% of space blank on the right side of the ad? Ah, did they? Why is that? That's because they were designed to be defaced so that people would vandalize them and take photos of them and put them on social media. And that's the only reason you and I have ever heard of it. can we go back to the days when expensive micro transactions were like the biggest reason to yell yeah absolutely i'd go back to that can we start complaining about horse armor and fucking space two's bad multiplayer can you believe that battlefield put the price so high on the on the on the season pass that they when they will surely get the carcan they reduced they reduced the price when people
Starting point is 02:48:29 got mad but it was still higher than it was supposed to be because they factored in your rage. Can you believe it? Yeah, that's crazy. Online passes. All right. Well, hey, what else is going on? A lot, actually. There's quite a few things. Big, huge one,
Starting point is 02:48:53 left field. So Harada is leaving Bamco. Crazy. After 31 years. My thoughts are that, like, even though Tekken is in a state where a lot of the players are not happy with TechN8 right now, And even though there's been those goofy moments of him being like, let's focus on, you know, like fighting the CPU and making that a more human experience versus working on rollback and all these things over the years. All that aside, Harada has been a instrumental figure in fighting games and has done a massive job turning that franchise into something you care about. Because he is a cool guy.
Starting point is 02:49:33 He is a good guy from all accounts that I've ever heard. I've never heard even a single negative thing ever said about Heronah. He's done some great work with his team over the years. Starting with directing Tekken 3. So guess what? Oh, man, that's such a good fucking start. I didn't know he was there at 3. Oh, that's great.
Starting point is 02:49:52 Guess what? The only reason any of you care is because of what he did. And from that, there's another level of this, too, where we definitely talk to people. and hear things and people are possible, yeah. People are very, very transparent whenever working with someone is a nightmare.
Starting point is 02:50:16 And, oh no! This is not one of those people. This is somebody Oh, yes. It's true. Try that again. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Indeed. Um, in a fune way,
Starting point is 02:50:38 it's kind of like it's kind of like oh man that's good oh that's a good one oh that's so good oh man you tried so hard
Starting point is 02:50:58 it's kind of like word gets around when the way you treat people the way you treat people tends to make it out there you know what's actually really funny when word gets if word gets to me or you that someone sucks shit.
Starting point is 02:51:17 It had to travel a while sometimes. And the fact that it got like three jumps away, ooh, they must be really bad to work with. That's it. And so all this to say is that Herada wasn't one of those people. He's been a real one. And it is kind of crazy too. But like the way he's been talking about stuff on Twitter and, you know, again,
Starting point is 02:51:40 the whole don't ask me for shit stuff, all of that. he's been very transparent about all these development stories and interactions and things he's had over the years. And something he's been sharing online recently. And it sounds like a big part of what affected him here was Idaqi's passing. It sounded like, you know, between that and a lot of other people he knew in the industry that he started with at the time. Because him and Idaqi went to the same college, you know? Like, and a lot of people that like either, yeah, just got out of the industry or so were his age or older that are going different. ways with their careers, he kind of started thinking about like what to do with his type left and what that, what he wants to do creatively with video games. And so he's like,
Starting point is 02:52:23 yeah, I guess after 30 years, you know, now's a decent time. There's like a real like, like, poetic, like sweetness to like, my hater is gone. I don't know if I can keep making it without that hate. Like, I don't like the spark, that magic. But the flashback story is the two of them literally went to college. They were in the same fucking, you know, shit before that even, right? So, like, there's always, there's always that chapter before and then the chapter after. It's, uh, like, grandpa in, in, fucking Freeman and, uh, then the boondocks, where it's, where he's like, come to my funeral.
Starting point is 02:53:09 come on, I know you hated me for my entire life and we were bitter rivals, but just I need you at my funeral and I got something to give you. And at the end, what do you have to give me? These nuts, nigger! Ah! From beyond the grave, I own your ass and you can't do nothing about it because I'm dead. Yeah. So, you know, it's, it is a little something like that. It's a good reason. I get it. And, you know, I just, I just wish that, last Tekken 8 patch had gone better because it is empowered the shittiest guy you know to be like, well, of course he's leaving now. He's done all his good. He doesn't know what he's doing. And it's like, shut up. I mean, look,
Starting point is 02:53:53 he again, like he still brought like good net play to Tekken finally. It took a while for it to happen. But that's a thing. One of the best replay systems, all these features, all this cool shit did eventually get there. And it is kind of cool, too, that he's going out on a note where he's like, the last thing I want to do is mix a DJ set.
Starting point is 02:54:15 You know, and here's my playlist of tech and music. And it was like, what? You're a music dude? Oh, fuck. That explains why tech and music has been so sick for so long now. I think putting the sandclad in that in his resignation is like fucking cool as shit. It's like a real life version of that Mega-64 skit with Seaguchi. Or it's like, finally, now I can quit making these dumb video games and start making tunes for the club.
Starting point is 02:54:46 Yeah, that's a powerhouse name for these games. And again, from TechN3 upwards, you know, beast of a career. And you finally now cannot ask him for shit. So go check out the final mix. And there he goes. completely understand after putting in this level of time, you know, a chunk of your life on this planet. And then you see someone you know past and you kind of go, huh, where am I at? I think I need a change. I think I want to try more things. I think I want to do something. And he's out at the end of this month.
Starting point is 02:55:24 So it's like immediately, you know, going into 2026, they'll be without him. So let's see what happens. Can I Speaking tangentially of haters I would like to give A little golf clap For somebody who's shown I knew they were a hater before I knew they were a hater before
Starting point is 02:55:45 Because of what they did to Jha Rule But To give a special shoutout To 50 cent Having the biggest Cleanest most Toothful Hater smile
Starting point is 02:56:01 I have ever seen in my life. Oh, that man looks like he is on top of the heavens, smiling down with the mandate. He is so happy. Yeah, now, Fiddy had an opportunity to clown this whole thing into meme territory, right? And to be fair, a name like, did he do it is kind of incredible. And his reason, did he do it is really? reason enough to execute on the project to begin with. But what I haven't seen it, but what I've heard is everyone's like, actually, this is a really
Starting point is 02:56:39 serious, like, expose. CBC says it is a stunningly comprehensive documentary. Exactly. And all the footage was there and it's all shit that, like, he was filming around him, doing all that, all the crimes at the time. And, like, Fiddy took the opportunity and, like, could have made it, I could have shoved himself in there and made it. as dunk as hard of a dunk as possible,
Starting point is 02:57:04 but actually stayed back and let it speak for itself. Yeah, just run a bunch of footage of combs just going, yeah, I killed him. And it's, I killed them all. And it was me. You know, and it's just like, like your hatred is being, your hate is being delivered in a boardroom with a suit signing papers.
Starting point is 02:57:24 Like, it is, it's next level, you know, talking about buying out the front row of Jaws concert is, eight shit compared to this. He was being interviewed on, I think it was ABC, and he was sitting there with his hands clasped
Starting point is 02:57:37 in a nice suit, just big smile on the lady interviewing him as, what do you think Sean Combs would say about this documentary? It really seems like you hate him, to which he responded with. I think he'd think it's a really well put together documentary. I think
Starting point is 02:57:55 he would think it was really well made. Yeah. Just the biggest fucking smile? Oh. man it's uh it's it's it's kind of incredible but it's also you know you can also thank the the hubris of like people like that for like filming their crimes and being totally uh um thinking that and having their ego basically blind them to the idea that there'd be amy ramifications for any of it right um kind of incredible that's a that is that is that that's a that's a a hater a hateration fucking
Starting point is 02:58:31 milestone has been accomplished. One of the best to ever do it. Okay, and then you know. We're talking about the leaks now? There's a couple leaks. There's a couple leaks. Yes, we talk about the leaks.
Starting point is 02:58:45 If you don't want some game awards leaks. We actually mean game awards leaks, not video game leaks. Leaks for the game awards. You best dip now. Well, there are video game leaks too, and they're not even... Yeah, but the big ones are actually the game awards.
Starting point is 02:58:58 Yeah, sure, because it's like, okay, hey, guess what? The Peggy fucking ratings revealed that Assassin's Creed Black Flag Resynced as a thing. Cool, man. That's way too late. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:59:10 That's way, way too late. It's one of those things where I look at it and I go, like, that's right on time for if I was like, hey, yo, Reggie, you ever play Black Flag? It's pretty cool. You should check it out. Like, I got to tell you, I fucking hate Assassin's Creed 4. I fucking hate it.
Starting point is 02:59:26 I love that game. I love that game to death. I always want to call it Assassin's Creed 4. I am afraid to speak that name out to the ether. It's worrying to me. It's awkward. Assassin's Creed 4, BF. Yeah?
Starting point is 02:59:42 Yeah. Don't stutter. I'm afraid. Street fighter, Alpha Generations. You say the whole name. Every time. Every time. So,
Starting point is 02:59:59 so, yeah, they basically confirmed they're remaking the good one. Hopefully. The last one that was like, yeah, this one's great! That was the last one. All you really need to do is announce you're adding more shanties. And that's your remake right there, really. I'm not selling them for like $10 a piece.
Starting point is 03:00:25 But we'll see what happened. We'll see. Hey. So I guess we talked about, we hinted at it a little bit earlier, but the cover for Resident Evil Requiem has leaked. And don't listen to this if you don't want to be spoiled on promotional material that will likely be popping up at the game awards. But Leon's on that cover. There he is. Shocker.
Starting point is 03:00:54 So here's the fun thing. This already leaked out earlier this year. But it leaked out in that way of like it's a 4chan post. So who the fuck knows? Right? Kind of like how Tokod leaked out on a 4chan post. Yeah. When Requiem got shown and it was shown that you're going back to Raccoon City,
Starting point is 03:01:15 I'm like literally during the reveal trailer, oh, Leon's going to be the other character. Because if you go back to Raccoon City, you're going to bring a Raccoon City character back to you. That's what you got to do. And Leon's the more popular one of Jill and Claire. So, yeah. So like this is the most least shocking shit that's ever fucking.
Starting point is 03:01:31 been. So when's the last time he was seen? RE4 remake? Two years ago? Three years? Oh, sorry. Canonically. Resonial six?
Starting point is 03:01:41 When he fought that T-Rex? Okay, so 7, 8, 9, nothing. No, it was all just Chris and new characters. Yeah, it was Chris and, well, this is nine, right? So, seven and eight, it was the Chris and Ethan show. Okay, so the whole, like, older new Chris bit, like, nobody knew what was going on with the others yet. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:02:02 Okay. Or Chris had the weird head. Okay. Yeah. There's like a big time jump like into this timeline now, right? Like, oh, there's a massive, and I mean massive time jump at the end of RE8 that goes like 30 years into the future. You do the DLC and then they, we're just going to never go back to that character
Starting point is 03:02:19 ever again. Oh. Whoa. Yeah, never. Maybe in 30 years we'll have a character with a game of that character. Okay. So this is like the second of the, like. the second of the like returning characters in the double time jump.
Starting point is 03:02:35 Yes. Okay. Damn, we're in fucking Borototown. We're double shippoo. Bro. Bro, I mean, like, me and Susie could try it out for you. And people are like, what about the Netflix? Shut up.
Starting point is 03:02:48 Shut up all of you. No, I didn't. We're not talking about the Netflix stuff because we, what we are going to talk about is the CG shit, which sucks. But there's cool stuff in there, like, maybe one percent of that. O-CG movies? Like gunfighting on the ground rolling around.
Starting point is 03:03:03 Oh, no, not that. There's one where, like, Leon takes like a full-on Superman punch from a 25-foot-fault Tiret and bounces off like a building and then just gets up like he's completely fine. Like, these people are not human beings anymore, man. Sick. Fuck yeah. That rules. It does, bro.
Starting point is 03:03:28 Okay. So has any of the material indicated anything about the how, which, the whys or I guess we'll just... No, so I'm going to tell you what it is. And this is based off of my own gut and the fact that I'm an obsessive freak about Resident Evil. So one of the original ideas for Resident Evil, too, was that you'd eventually go back to the ruined estate of the mansion lab and go around in the dirt and the rubble. and that never paid off. And instead, when you got to RE Zero, what they did is they would send you to parts of RE2
Starting point is 03:04:04 in various little locations, but it was pre-collapse, but it was just a little cute little thing. Like, hey, look, you get over here. And when we got to Resident Evil 8 Village, which was suspiciously like Resident Evil 4, because I have a suspicion that, based off the doll gameplay from the Hookman demo,
Starting point is 03:04:23 that Resident Evil 8 is actually a redo of the pre-resident evil four, Resident Evil 4 that was the Hookman version. That's all the hallucination and the hookman stuff and all that shit. And there's also some spinning giant fan stuff in the mechanist area.
Starting point is 03:04:45 So based off all of that, it feels like they're going back and reusing old ideas. I was about to say, is there anything on the cutting room floor that we haven't seen yet at this point? Yeah, we never returned to the, ruins of R.E.1 or R.E.2. Right? So now we have a thing where if you go deep into the canon because you're a psycho,
Starting point is 03:05:09 you find out that even after they nuked Raccoon City, they still had to put up a military blockade that's like a full circle around the fucking thing because shit still wanders out because anything that wasn't totally vaporized could still leave. Right? Like a dog or a zombie. So the military is just on hand. to shoot anything that walks out of Raccoon City, which means Raccoon City is still actively dangerous, which would make a good excuse for you to go there. Now, despite the fact that in the ending to R.E.3,
Starting point is 03:05:37 you see the police station absolutely vaporize into dust. It still has a staining structure that you can explore in the R.E.9 trailer, so don't worry about that. I just realized that the Hookman demo is your own personal Metroid dread, that thing that never came out that just was obsessed with it until finally and it did come out.
Starting point is 03:06:01 And it did come out. We got Metroid Dread eventually. But until we do, I'm fucking obsessed. And I'm of the opinion that that gigantic lady monster that is running around is probably Lisa Trevor who is still alive.
Starting point is 03:06:17 Okay. Because Lisa Trevor never dies. She just jumps down a pit into the depths of the Arclay Mountains. And what What was the virus that, what was the, she was infected with? Bro, you just, okay.
Starting point is 03:06:31 Yeah. Okay. So, Lisa Trevor was a test subject for the original T virus, which had an unexplained uncommon effect, especially after they put in the nemesis parasite. Tea. Which then created a variation that was then synthesized from her body, which was the basis for the G virus, which then William worked on. There you go.
Starting point is 03:06:55 But the T-Firus is actually a modified version of the progenitor virus with the mold from R.E.8. Which is actually a superhuman serum coming off of a single plant deep into the Mayan jungle of Africa. Susie, please. Susie help. She'd just be just saying the same shit here. Yeah, we're both sides. This shit's so stupid. It's so stupid, bully. It's so stupid. It's so stupid. I just want to know why Wesker was in a volcano. I just, that's all I want to know.
Starting point is 03:07:28 Because you shot down his plane, his plane, and then he was like, I'm on a volcano. But like, why does, why do things evolve according to, like, the mutation can be lame or cool according to, like, what the plot thinks you are? Oh, so, no, there is, like, a real reason for that. There's two things that happen. either the effect that they get is not the effect they were think they think was going to happen right like they juice themselves up and they're like okay well this is not oh shit ah i'm a monster
Starting point is 03:08:01 okay and then the other one uh specifically irving and r e5 who turns into a giant that's who i was thinking of exactly he literally has a line of dialogue that most people miss where they like i guess i wasn't worth the good stuff so he thought he was going to get superhuman wesker superman shit But instead they gave him the vial that turns you into a big ugly flesh beast. Okay, because I was always like, how come, how come fucking whatever Tarantino, RE5 dude just became a goop instead of becoming a cool teleport man? Yeah, they tricked him. They gave him the bad goo.
Starting point is 03:08:38 Okay. And Wesker did give himself the good goo, but it required constant maintenance, which is why when he got hit with Uroboros and then had too much of his synthesizers, it had a weird effect, which he maintained some of it, but then he had the Ouroboros goo. But it's lucky that he was fought in a volcano because Ouroboros has a canonical weakness to fire. It's a really bad fucking weakness.
Starting point is 03:09:03 You know, we were just talking about the Prometheus goo. Yeah. Well, that's different. Resident Evil is like nothing but goo ruined your day. It's all the, yes. It's goo for the word. Biohazard. It's right there.
Starting point is 03:09:19 Way better name than Resident Evil. way better name. So, so, so, so, what are you thinking here? You're thinking we're going to get, um, you're thinking, okay, so in terms of, of fucking game awards, back, back to the, the broader. Oh, well, the way it's going to work is that, um, you're going to play as Grace Ashford for about 40% of the game and then you're
Starting point is 03:09:41 going to switch to Leon and Leon is going to be Leon. Yeah. So you're going to go from the classic Resident Evil style character to, the man and then you'll switch back to Grace at the 65% mark and then you'll switch back to Leon for 80 to 95%
Starting point is 03:10:03 and during the finale you'll be switching back and forth back and forth while Leon fights the boss and Grace goes around to do puzzle solutions like the Ada and Leon boss fight in Resident Evil That is an incredibly specific prediction you've played these games
Starting point is 03:10:20 for a long time. I don't know if you remember, but at some time I was like, you know, every single Resident Evil game has like an incredibly strict formula. And the formula is mansion, guardhouse, mansion, mansion, sewer, lab. And like, once somebody says that out loud to you, you actually realize, oh, wow, they actually are like wildly specific on that progression of locations. That shit in the desert. what are you thinking?
Starting point is 03:10:51 I... Elder Scroll 6. So, we went through a whole round, right? Everybody's going, what the fuck could it be? People asked Cory Barlog over at God of War because there's a gator on it. And so I started thinking maybe it's in the desert, maybe a gator, maybe it's Egypt.
Starting point is 03:11:08 No, he says no. People bothered Todd Howard. He's like, nah, that's not us. Half-life three. And maybe that's a ridiculous one. People thought Doom. Doom also said, no, that's not us. And so, today, there was a trademark filed by Larian's company that included a new logo.
Starting point is 03:11:28 And the new logo 100% overlaps the symbol on that fucking statue in the desert. And that happens to be the new symbol for the longstanding villain of divinity original sin, the god king. Okay, okay. So then is there anything left to reveal? Yes. A new... Blood-born remaster. Come on.
Starting point is 03:11:59 A new OD trailer probably, you know. So here's the thing. The Resident Evil 9 Leon reveal and the divinity reveal are absolutely the showstoppers for the Game Awards. And if I would... was Mr. Keeley, I would be losing my mind fucking pissed because people pay a lot of money to get those good trailer spots like millions of fucking dollars. If I was Capcom, I would be asking for my fucking money back because Sony leaked the title, sorry, the box art for Capcom.
Starting point is 03:12:45 Capcom didn't leak. It came from them. It went up on the PlayStation store as for pre-order too early. Classic. Okay. So, Sony definitely owns Capcom some money for sure.
Starting point is 03:12:56 Okay. Nothing about, what was the other one called? Pragata? Did that come out? I don't know. That's the, I don't even know. Wait, no, that was the like,
Starting point is 03:13:10 is the little girl Mega Man game? Oh. I think. Yes. I don't know. All right, well, in any case, there's that. You know what I'm going to do when Divinity 3 comes out?
Starting point is 03:13:27 By the way, I have a follow-up. Somebody asked Very AFK this afternoon. Hey, very AFK, have you seen this shit about the thing in the desert? Are you guys going to reveal Divinity Original Sin 3? To which he said, we are not working on Divinity Original Sin 3. But if we will be happy to show you the thing we are working on next, there are like 20 divinity games, and they all have different designations. Okay.
Starting point is 03:13:56 Okay. It could literally be called Divinity 4. It could be called Beyond Divinity 2. It could be, there's a game called Divinity Dragon Commander, for fuck's sake. Apparently this week, there was a trademark filed for Control Resident. Cool. So Remedies
Starting point is 03:14:16 Corner of the shows Might be that That makes sense Because Control 2 is like I mean It should be unveiled pretty soon Yeah whatever I guess we'll see
Starting point is 03:14:28 And oh and then I think they confirmed The 2XCO next Next champ as well You know what I'm not gonna do With Larian's game this time I'm not gonna wait Until it's completely
Starting point is 03:14:38 Fucking done Before playing it in early access Because that is a multi-year nightmare. I'm just going to fuck when they put that shit out on early access, which could be as soon as fucking Friday, I'm just going to fucking dive in on that shit and fucking play it when it updates because I fuck this way 35 fucking years for it to be done shit. I'll just play it when it starts on every update and when it's fucking done, I'll play it again, like whatever. Or if you lose
Starting point is 03:15:09 everything, then close your heart to it and and that'll be that'll be that. Yeah, they announce there's going to be a new They're going to reveal the next to XKO character Will so we'll see whatever that is I'm going to put my fucking guess You want to put your guest down on this? Riven sword, broken sword girl Okay, I have two guesses here
Starting point is 03:15:31 One is a prayer I will pray I will pray to God Anyone but Caitlin Anyone but Caitlin Yeah yeah yeah literally just Literally If you see a top hat, shut it down, go home. Like, the 2XCO subreddit is like fucking drowning.
Starting point is 03:15:52 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my God, please, anyone but Caitlin. And it's so frustrating because when I was doing the slam and talking to Say Jam, he's like, yeah, but Caitlin's fire, though. Ah. No, fuck, Seajam! Yeah, I think, I think you're not going to get Thresh for a minute. I think they're going to... I think it'll be Riven.
Starting point is 03:16:09 Yeah, I think so. The girl with the sword. The sword. Broken sword girl. Yeah, I think that makes the most sense, especially given leaks and whatnot. Can you do me a favor? Me and Paige talked about this.
Starting point is 03:16:20 None of my prayers ever came true, but the angri-yo, the careful, angering you, wishing well, every wish I ever made at that wishing well ever came true. So can you go down there and throw a quarter into that wishing well and just brought anybody but Caitlin? Literally just go down to that.
Starting point is 03:16:42 wishing well, anybody but Caitlin. I can just, I can burn... You have two days to do it. I can burn a top hat as an effigy, you know. No, that will summon her. Oh, God damn it. And then it's like, not only that, but then you have to deal with like a sniper gameplay system that's just...
Starting point is 03:17:00 Bro, you can't... Like, you want to put three gun zoners in your 12-person roster? But now that Arcsus has introduced it to the world with happy chaos and fucking Elfelt, you can get your gun zoner with the cursor on your character type. I would hate it so much. I would hate it so much. It's like the character and the gameplay, you know, and her outfit, really. I hate her outfit.
Starting point is 03:17:31 Her league outfit is terrible. It's so bad. Like it wasn't doing, the character in general ain't doing much, but like seeing what she used to be and just being like, swapping the top hat for like a beret and a military unit was like a million times better. It's really interesting when you see a character being adapted and the only way to make them work is to completely change their whole design. Yeah. But at the same time I'm looking and I'm like they should have went more Wolf on Warwick. Like knowing what that was.
Starting point is 03:18:05 I didn't know that was a character at all. I thought that wasn't a fucking plot monster. Will you invent a character invent a character right now in your brain just say a concept Uh fucking
Starting point is 03:18:18 Uh priestess Um that was sacrificed and is now resurrected and Necromancer Mike Oh which one's that
Starting point is 03:18:35 That's the fucking green one with the Necromancer priestess Uh what's her name She's a sunken aisles No, that's not karma. That's the other one. Not Soraka. Is that Soraka?
Starting point is 03:18:50 No, no. Calista. Yeah, Calista there. Oh, yeah. Jesus Christ. Fuck. Okay. Here, I'll get you a fucking photo.
Starting point is 03:19:00 Wow. Like, this is what happens. This is what happens when you have, like, the largest, like, when you have a roster of hundreds. Right? is you just get it like you just here you go this fucking horseback Mongolian archer style
Starting point is 03:19:16 falconer type uh heckarim ironically enough also a zombie really yeah damn well he's more of a centaur but still okay if you want to go more alive you could go for Quinn
Starting point is 03:19:30 but she's a falconer she's not a she's not a Mongolian um you can do this all day like I can change like one advocate and get and nail it. So when your choices are
Starting point is 03:19:46 literally anything you could think of and that bitch has a gun in a game that that bitch also has a gun. Like Kate is like uniquely awful. And you're also you're becoming one of ten, you know. Okay, beyond that
Starting point is 03:20:04 the console release happening in January as well. Sure. Yay. what we also found out so um fucking Romeo is a dead man can launch it coming out to be like no AI yeah I promise
Starting point is 03:20:22 I mean because things that are directed in that style with lots of clips of different clashing art styles and things like that are like prime bait for it you know because you can just quickly low effort churn slop out and put it in quick filters. But so he says, and so there you go. Meanwhile, let it die on the other side of the grasshopper field. It's kind of interesting how it's the complete opposite fucking effect. Romeo must die. I have another quote from Larian, by the way. So very AFK said that earlier. And their publishing boss, Michael Dow says, quote, there aren't any, there aren't currently any
Starting point is 03:21:04 plans for a new divinity original sin three game. but once we are ready to show what we've been working on, we will. I can confirm we aren't working on a toilet simulator at this moment. So both of the quotes are, we are not working on Divinity Original Sin 3. There is nothing guiltier than saying the full title of the thing. Yeah. In that context.
Starting point is 03:21:27 Everybody else said, nah, that ain't us. So Romeo is a dead man. I keep saying Romeo must die. And I really wish I, I, I, I, I, wish that was correct but unfortunately that movie's all right this it is it is it is it is it is not all right it was it's all dumb i like what he does i like i liked it was the no fucking hammer uh the meteor hammer scene with the fucking fire hose i like when the cops are running in at the end and then they look at the dude who was in the crime and go you're the protagonist you're okay and they
Starting point is 03:22:04 run past him to go in as he and alia are hugging and they just they they they they they they they they they they they they why was Anthony Anderson in every single one of those movies? Because Anthony Anderson was fucking, he was, he was one of the it black people at the time that got the job everywhere. It's what it was. When I think of Stephen Segal, I actually think of Anthony Anderson. It's like, you know. I also think of Steven Seagal in prison with a do-rag on. What movie was that?
Starting point is 03:22:36 You're thinking of him in Russia. No, am I thinking of cradle to the grave? You might be thinking of cradle to the grave, but I want to say you're thinking of him in Russia being fat. No, I'm not. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Okay. Definitely.
Starting point is 03:22:53 Because I want to say that, like, Anthony Anderson, it's kind of like how Craig Robinson took... Craig Robinson came and took all of Patrice's potential roles. Like, it's one of those things, you know? Yeah, yeah, half-bass dead. Half-past dead. Half-ha's dead. There's Steven Sagan with a du rag on in prison.
Starting point is 03:23:12 Fuck, yeah. This shit sucks. Oh, God. We got to do the action movie, but this time, let's get the rapper or the black guy to co-signed and update the fucking... All right, anyways. DMX. God bless. I...
Starting point is 03:23:31 What am I fucking... Not in jail. Not in jail. I promise. Why am I thinking of Romeo must die? Fuck off. I don't know how we go. Oh, Romeo must kill me.
Starting point is 03:23:50 Romeo is, no, now you can't even say the real name anymore. Romeo's a dead man. It's episodic, apparently. This game should just be a cross between Romeo must die and the one. I mean, it would be pretty sick if fucking, I am Una. I'm nobody's bitch. Oh, man. The end of that movie's so stupid.
Starting point is 03:24:14 He's fighting him off. Fights forever. He has to fight forever. And then it zooms out and you see all these CG people climbing the pillar and he's beating them all up forever. That totally stole that shit for the Armageddon, didn't they? Fucking Jet Lee doing the Bajie Kwa. The one.
Starting point is 03:24:33 Oh. There was so much better than Romeo was dying. This is what Netflix wants to take away from us. I think Jetley in the one. is the most powerful Jetli second to Jetley and Chenet
Starting point is 03:24:51 cheney unchained or fuck you unleashed No in chained chained These are two weak sauce jetleys
Starting point is 03:25:04 The strongest Jetle is The Jetley is The Jetley God he was in a movie with Jackie Chan and it was a fucking journey to the West rendition and so he played Wu Kong. He played the Monkey King. Hmm.
Starting point is 03:25:19 And like Wu Kong, come on. Come on. Okay. Fine. Oh, have you seen that power scaling website? Power scale. We did it. We did it. Yeah, you did that one? Oh man, that's tough. That's a tough one sometimes. There's some bullshit on that.
Starting point is 03:25:40 Okay, Wu Kong. the one and then right under that I'm going to say Wong Fihung Oh and the old one What's Upon a Time in China? Yeah Unstoppable
Starting point is 03:25:56 Unstoppable. He keeps Be bisoned man I mean I prefer Jackie Chan's Wong fang hung personally But that's because I just think Legend of Drunken Master is a better movie Hmm Either way, that's top three
Starting point is 03:26:10 Yeah And then you can get your Romeo must die some more in there People are saying Hero. Oh, he lost it in Hero. No, he gets fucked up in Hero, though. No, he lets himself get fucked up in Hero. That's different. He could have parried that shit.
Starting point is 03:26:27 How many steps to the Emperor to take a drink? Okay, but then that giant brushstroke shit was fucking sick, though. It was so lame, but it was cool. Hero is definitely a movie that I saw at the wrong time in my life. like I saw what hero came out when I was like 20 something and I remember watching it and I walked out of theater and go
Starting point is 03:26:51 what the fuck that movie sucked he could have kicked all their asses I don't get it oh yeah I'm still there I don't I've never updated my views I did not watch it again I have no idea no the whole point is the
Starting point is 03:27:08 there's no need to prolong senseless conflict in the in the unification of China which is something you see in a lot of movies in Japan where it's like there's no point in continuing to fight Nobunaga because of the inherent like long-term effects of the unification of Japan
Starting point is 03:27:22 which is a point of view that you can only have like a thousand years later but it's just because his ambition is so great and it can't be stopped yeah whatever look at the pretty colors in the meantime um like it's really easy to fucking 2015
Starting point is 03:27:40 China to go well it was always going to be unified there's nothing Jetli's character could do when he's in like the year 600. Like shut the fuck up. Fighting against the weight of history. Yes. You don't know that the Han Dynasty is gonna fucking last for eons? All you know is this guy's
Starting point is 03:27:56 an asshole. Have you seen this wall though? It'll keep it'll keep them out. You can see it from space. Um and then anyway. Should I rewatch hero?
Starting point is 03:28:11 No, you're good. I just, I just solved it for you. I solved it. Okay. All right. You know what AI is stealing from us? AI is stealing your friend telling you what a movie was about badly and wrongly. But at least you got to talk to a person. That's pretty criminal. I don't like that. Yeah, like, didn't we describe, where's my elephant to you as where's my elephant?
Starting point is 03:28:41 it. That was weird because I had never seen Tony Jaw ever. And so you guys were just telling me about this movie where this guy was just fighting people and screaming at the top of his lungs, where's my elephant? That's it. And you and like you were both so, you and Matt were so excited. You really weren't making any sense at all. And then I watched the movie and like, oh, I understand why they didn't make any sense at all. Because the movie doesn't make any fucking sense.
Starting point is 03:29:06 They took Stampy. They took Stampy away. Fuck you. And then at the end of the movie He fights that one gigantic White Man that every fucking movie Out of Thailand and China hires I know his name
Starting point is 03:29:20 But like he's this seven and a half foot tall Giant Muscled White dude that's in everything The final white Yes The You know the fucking The emblem of the Caucasus You were defeating them all when you defeat this one
Starting point is 03:29:37 You know what's an underrated overrated, underrated movie Mm-hmm. Chocolate. Oh, chocolate was good. But think about it. Remember as the end with a little girl with autism fights the breakdancing guy with Tourette's.
Starting point is 03:30:01 No. He uses his Tourette's to fake her out. Oh, no, I don't. You don't remember that? Because he does some like breakdancing style, like kind of capillera, and he starts twitching because of his Tourette's So she can't predict his moves. I just remember that was the movie that cemented the rule that the hot, never climb.
Starting point is 03:30:22 Never climb when you're a bad guy in an action movie. The higher you climb, the worse the wipeout. There was a year or two where we watched Tom Yongung and then we watched chocolate. And that's when you came up with, don't get up on anything. Never climb. Right? And then right after that, you got the proof of your thesis statement. because we watched The Raid, the raid. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 03:30:45 Everyone who gets even one step above the protagonist gets murdered way more violently than everybody else. And also, uh, Chapo Lung, where Donny Yan does air combos in real life to people. So he elevates them first and then takes them out. Yeah, never climb. That, Chapo Leng has the strangest B plot of any of these Kung Fu movies ever. it's Donnie Yang beat up a guy after he was arrested and he knocked him out so hard
Starting point is 03:31:22 he became permanently mentally disabled and all he wants to do is play king of fighters all day so he goes and visits the guy he punched into having brain damage and they play king of fighters on the clog stage and it's so fucking weird it's so fucking weird This is supposed to be
Starting point is 03:31:44 Oh my God Donnie Yen's character Feeling remorse Yeah yeah yeah yeah Yeah This is a police officer And he's literally just banging out Like matches of K-O-F
Starting point is 03:31:54 I think 2000 With a guy with a mental disability It's fucking weird I just I just remember evil Samo hung You know But fuck KOF clog stage specifically You remember that shit?
Starting point is 03:32:07 Oh my God that's unlocking Yeah okay All right that whole strip of 80 81 or whatever to fucking 2015 of like Hong Kong cinema is like the best shit actual yeah real shit kung fu flicks I can't I have not thought of chocolate since I've seen it
Starting point is 03:32:27 that's crazy that movie's nuts man fuck yeah I remember they were building her up because she was Tony Jaws like a student and they were building her up as the lady Tony Jha and then that just never was It never happened. It never happened. It never happened. It's her first acting role.
Starting point is 03:32:42 She played a very disabled girl. And then, and then, like, Wu Jing was another dude who was getting set up to be like the Donnie Yen replacement, but then it never happened. And then Donnie N kept, and he just kept doing more Itman movies. Yeah, Donnie N just was like, oh, it's me.
Starting point is 03:32:55 It's the me show every day. I'm going to be in Star Wars. I'm never going away. Are you fuckers in Star Wars? You know why? You don't speak English. Pass the, the mantle, Donnie. Pass the mantle on.
Starting point is 03:33:05 Go fuck yourself. It man to the combo to the ground. Yeah. Never. He refused to let it go. Oh, man. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 03:33:15 There you go. You know what? Conversations that you can't get from chat GPT. How about that? Would you like that to be more professional? No, I want you to tell me what the actor's name that got disabled and was playing King of Fighters and Chapo Lang was. So that when I watch Monster Hunter, I can be like, oh, fuck. That's what Tony Jaws up to.
Starting point is 03:33:37 Damn. God, that's such a... Yeah. Tony Jog going from like the coolest guy in the world to being a monk. Mm-hmm. In a cave. Went in a cave. Straight up.
Starting point is 03:33:49 Yep. Like when to train under a fucking waterfall like were you? I'm out. To come back and do dog shit like monster hunters and be the fucking be the fucking like ethnic kung fu hire for fucking Paul Anderson's fucking wife. You had the best ending and then you interrupted it because time had to keep moving forward. Did he walk off the set of... He walked... Three.
Starting point is 03:34:13 Which one was it? I think it was three. Three of Ongbach. I think he walked off the set of Ongbach three and said, fuck this. I'm out forever. I'm out forever. I become a fucking hermit. Yep.
Starting point is 03:34:24 Yep. You know, he almost Alan moored it. Um, all right. Let's take some letters. Raid 2 was not nearly as good as raid one. But it had some good wipeouts. Yeah, it did. But like God, there was so much fucking...
Starting point is 03:34:42 fluff bullshit in that? Because Raid 1 was a video game and Raid 2 was not. Raid 1 had nothing going on other than the best action you've ever seen. You want to play a game where you start at the bottom
Starting point is 03:34:58 of the complex and have to work your way up but then halfway through you find out about the machete gang that's killing everybody behind you so you have to move through the levels faster you know? And at the top is the shortest man who's so dangerous. He's so tiny and so insanely dangerous.
Starting point is 03:35:18 Fuck, what a good movie. God damn it, the raid ruled. Oh, right. It's so good, man. Doorframe! Yeah. The fucking doorframe, bro. Like curl up my hands. It's like, ooh, I don't like you. Oh, I got my, I was lightheaded walking out of there, man. Jesus, mad dog. And then they bring him back to be a different person because he's just that fucking sick. I just want you into the movie to have a completely unrelated fight scene.
Starting point is 03:35:49 That ruled. Okay. You know a movie's fucking A plus amazing when Hollywood can just rip it right the fuck off and make a completely different movie. And that movie is also great. We saw it with Infernal Affairs and the Departed. Departed. And then you saw it with the raid and with fucking Judge Dread. Yep.
Starting point is 03:36:13 Yep. Yep. I don't even, I'm afraid to ask, like, what exists that's in the category we were just covering anymore. But it feels like the last action, anything anyone's talked about is to be the John Wick movies. Like, I feel like there's just nothing else being discussed at all. Yeah. Anyway. I watched, like, two of them.
Starting point is 03:36:39 I heard three is incredible, but I don't know. I've only seen one and two. I feel like they all, like, all of them would. struggle to hit the peak that is they killed my dog, I'm going to get him. Like in the second one, it's like, he fucked me over. I'm like, that's not hitting me the same as they beat
Starting point is 03:36:58 up my dog. But it's not just that, it's also how he deals with it at the end, too. It's the, you get nothing special. That, that's, that's crucial. It's so petty and you go out like nothing. You get nothing special. It's, it's a
Starting point is 03:37:14 book end to the beginning. I never saw Furiosa. Oh, I got to watch Furiosa has good stuff. Furiosa is interesting and has some cool stuff in it. It's not... Hemsworth does like a really good job acting for once. It is not... He plays a character.
Starting point is 03:37:32 It's not at all like as good as Fury Road, and it's not going to approach that. But it's got some stuff that's thematically interesting about the world, and it's a fun movie. I do like it. But it doesn't hold a candle to Fury Road, which is literally one of the greatest films of all time. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:37:52 But I, I, I think for what it could have been, and the whole like Anna Taylor Joy playing her and stuff like that, I was really worried. That's why I didn't see it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I really don't like Anna Taylor Joy.
Starting point is 03:38:06 But, but what they did was a lot better than I was worried it was going to be, you know? Yeah, it's fine. And it doesn't shit on Fury Road either in any ways that make it worse. No, well, not. You know. All right, let's take some letters.
Starting point is 03:38:24 If you want to send in an email, that's Castle Super Beastmail at gmail.com. That's Castle Super Beastmail at Gmail.com. All right, let's see here. We got one coming in from... Oh, hold on. Everyone mad at me because I don't like Anna Taylor Joy. I'm sorry. This is exactly the same as when I'm like, I don't like Emma Stone.
Starting point is 03:38:50 Just don't like... No. No. No, thank you. Same exact thing as John Lenguizamo. It's... Look, I wouldn't... Same exact thing. It's not the casting I would have gone with
Starting point is 03:39:05 for Furiosa being younger. But again, what I got out of it was fine. And also, I didn't see Queen's Gambit, so I had no opinion going in beyond just the face. Anyway... They should have gotten Charlie's there, and I'm like, I don't know. It was fucking...
Starting point is 03:39:24 They're going to cast a character They're going to have the same character They're just have the same actor And then just run the Run the fucking The CG on the face or the No I don't care
Starting point is 03:39:36 She's she's fucking 12 years old Standing there being like Charlie's Theron That's exactly what I want All right Jotero it We used to have 35 year old guys Play high schoolers in high school movies Babysers Club or whatever the fuck
Starting point is 03:39:53 Yeah, fuck it. Charlize Theron plays the 13 year old. I mean, she's have her crouch and put a cloak on her. Or you, or you, you, you, um, advance the story so that, like, you can still use her and that it would work. Have you, have you ever seen the flashbacks that take place in the Dexter series? Oh, fuck. No, no. I forget the name, I forget the name, Michael C. Hall. in his flashbacks when he's supposed to be like 14
Starting point is 03:40:23 they literally just put like a wig like absolutely no change at all it's the funniest thing ever oh fuck that's great it's Dexter and he's exactly the same he just has a wig
Starting point is 03:40:39 and everyone's treating him like he's 15 it's so fucking funny we should do that a lot we should do that a lot with movies that's what I think like all I know about Dexter is that like everyone was addicted and then it sucked and then everyone hated it and then there's weird incest and everyone double hates it for coming back.
Starting point is 03:40:58 Yeah, no, basically throw Dexter on the same pile of like Battlescarc, Galactica and and Lost and Game of Thrones where decisions were made during the finale that just like torpedoed at the finish line. But now it lives on as a meme with the dude, with the black, cop that's holding his staring wheel. Doakes? Doakes is fucking awesome. Staring. Just can't prove it. But you're up to some bullshit.
Starting point is 03:41:28 That's about all I got. Yeah. So, dokes is hilarious in that show, but he's extra hilarious if you know anything about the books that Dexter's based off of. Because the reason why Dex, the reason why Dox is chasing after Dexter in the show is never explained. Because it's supposed to be he's just
Starting point is 03:41:45 suspicious of Dexter being a weirdo. But the real reason is that he's fucking psychic and he's catching Dexter's murder vibes. Oh my God. He's shining? Yes. He's fucking shining.
Starting point is 03:42:02 Absolutely. In the middle of the PD going the stand user could be anywhere. That makes that meme so much lamer. I thought he was just like, I know you're up to some shit because I'm being a detective. So they fuck it up in one of the early seasons.
Starting point is 03:42:24 Dexter thinks a murder thought out loud and Doakes turns to him and goes, what did you say? And Dexter's like, what? Did he just literally? He literally hears his thoughts once. And then they back off from that because it's insane. That's so much lamer. I hate that. So the dark passenger that is referenced in Dexter is supposed, in the show is metaphorical and supposed to be like,
Starting point is 03:42:49 a name for the devil inside, but in the books is literally the devil. Okay, there's supernatural, like actual powers and shit going on. Oh, my God. Well, okay, to be fair, I mean, whatever. It's not, I'm not invested in any way, shape, or form in, in Dexter, so. Dude, I got to tell you, I love not watching shows, and then they end, and people go, oh, my God, I'm so supportive. waste of time. And then I just get to go, yeah. Guess you're dumb, sorry. Dodge, the clean dodge.
Starting point is 03:43:26 And then people just get real mad. Yeah. Like some of the angriest messages I've ever received in my life was when we were doing the Game of Thrones spoiler cast and you were, and I was like, guess I was right to never watch it. And that just made some people just go crazy. I mean, again, like I've hit it with Lost before and every time I say heroes, you know, as that was taking over.
Starting point is 03:43:50 And it was just like, yep, what happened there? Where did that go? Was that worth anyone's time in the end? Or was it just a fucking Westworld ass situation? So there was like a criteria for me on this, because this didn't start right? This was, I saw the way, I saw everyone going nuts about heroes.
Starting point is 03:44:09 Then I saw everyone hate heroes. Then I saw everyone go nuts about lost, and then I saw everyone go nuts about lost. Then I watched Battlestar Galactica and then I watched Westworld. Yep. And that sequence of four events was enough for me to go,
Starting point is 03:44:27 oh, fuck this. I waited until Breaking Bad was on its final episode because of that sequence of events. Like, Westworld is going to be, that one's forever because it's like you're getting some of the best Anthony Hopkins you're ever going to get
Starting point is 03:44:43 on top of everything. Anyway, So when the people who helped work on Westworld are writing the Fallout TV show, it feels really good for them to go up into an interview and go, oh, yeah, we totally know what the ending to season five is right now. Okay. Okay. Thank you. All right. Okay.
Starting point is 03:45:05 Good. Good. Excellent. But, but time and money and, you know, Disney offering you your own trilogy of Star Wars movies that they didn't get. you know, things change. Never forget. Never forget that they didn't get it. They took it away.
Starting point is 03:45:21 They rightfully took it away. They saw the coffee cup and they went, fuck this. They ripped up those contracts. Anyways, all right. All right. Good, good, good, random movie bit.
Starting point is 03:45:37 We got one coming in over here from Carol. Dear Papa Patton, Mama Woolley. Is this Carol from the UK? Carol. Okay, before you get into this, I just have one last cytoid. Okay. Did you know that new refrigerators that have screens
Starting point is 03:45:57 on them show you ads? Yes, I heard about this, an internet of shit. Mm-hmm. Okay. Well, a lady in the UK who is diagnosed with schizophrenia and who takes her meds and is otherwise doing fine saw an ad for pluribus, the new Vince Gilligan show. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:46:14 That said, in all caps, we're sorry for upsetting you, Carol, on her TV. Sorry, on her fridge. Oh. She thought she was having a psychotic breakdown. Oh! And committed herself to the hospital.
Starting point is 03:46:26 Oh, fuck. Oh, that's the worst. Oh, everything is terrible. Wully, if you walked into your... Oh, my God. And looked at your fridge and it said, I'm very sorry, Wully. You would have a fucking moment. Wouldn't you?
Starting point is 03:46:42 Wouldn't you have a fucking, like... Oh, shit. That's fucking... Wow. that should be illegal. You have these things where you buy objects like that fridge and sign a waiver or sign a thing that's like, I agree to the terms or whatever the fuck, you know?
Starting point is 03:47:05 There's always... I'm going to get a new fridge in the near future. And guess what? It's going to be a dumb fridge. You know what it's going to do? Open the doors and cool things. Agreeing to a Yula so you can sleep on your fucking bed. That's going to not work and get stuck in a position an overheat and fucking cook you because the servers are down at Amazon.
Starting point is 03:47:27 That's insane. That's fucking crazy. What's Carol got to say? Dear Papa Pat and Mama Woolly. Just rewatched the movie Easy A with my siblings. Good teen movie, but what struck me most were how cool in support of the parents were, played by Stanley Tucci and Patricia Clarkson. It got me thinking, who are the best parents in fiction?
Starting point is 03:47:46 Conversely, who are the best parents in video games? Can't be a parent that kills a bunch of people to avenge their dead kid, unless shown ample screen time of the parent actually caring for said child. That's a pre- Number one with a bullet is the Kent's. In the new Superman movie, The Kent, that is literally my answer.
Starting point is 03:48:04 Number one with a bullet. The new Kent's in New Superman are the best parents I've seen in fiction. That's it. We're done. They're great. They're parenting. I love the Kent's in the new Superman. Phenomenal.
Starting point is 03:48:23 Phenomenal. And I appreciate the caveat that is like, you can't cut to your dad being a badass, yeah, doing his own adventure. It's like, no, no,
Starting point is 03:48:33 no, being actual parents, doing the job. Yep. That's the correct answer. I'm being like overpower. Because like, comics,
Starting point is 03:48:45 film and video games, like the parenting is bad. It's bad all the way around. It's not good. I would say, like remarkably poor parenting is the standard. Um, yeah, because the, again, the better you are as a protagonist, adventure or hero, the, the worse you are at settling down and, and fucking chilling out.
Starting point is 03:49:10 This is interesting. People are saying Barrett Wallace is a good parent. Barrett is a terrible father. He spends most of his time away committing terrorist acts instead of, of staying at home and taking care of his kid. And Marlene. You're like, well, that's for the good of the planet. For the good of the...
Starting point is 03:49:29 No, that is his own personal revenge. Yeah. Yeah, there's danger happening there that doesn't need to be present in her life. Admittedly, if he didn't do those things, she would have gotten killed anyway. She would have been collateral in, you know, in sector 7.
Starting point is 03:49:55 But, sure. We can take that. Great host. No. No. How about Minato and Kushina, you know? The fourth Hokage and Uzimaki mom. Put the demon in the baby. Everyone in that fucking village is a terrible parent.
Starting point is 03:50:27 Put the demon in that. the baby and then make sure that everyone treats him as a hero. Every single parent in Konoha is a fucking piece of shit. Even if I swear to God, even if you don't see them being a piece of shit, the way
Starting point is 03:50:44 they don't admonish their children for treating Naruto like shit makes them assholes. The only way Narito gets to be bullied for his whole life despite being one, a God King, Demon Freak, and two, the son of the two heroes that saved the city is because all the adults around him are pieces of garbage.
Starting point is 03:51:07 The third was given the specific proclamation to make sure he's treated as a hero. And it's like, nah, you live on your own. Go fucking sleep over there, kid. You know what? People are pointing it out to me, and I should have known this. Ricky from Xenoblade is a great dad. Ricky is a What's it called?
Starting point is 03:51:30 He's the hero pawn But he's a fucking Youopon They're the cute little Fucking mascot characters Zeno Blade Okay Ricky joins your party
Starting point is 03:51:39 Because he's broke And he's got like 10 kids And that's it He has no higher goals at all Okay Just gotta gotta mouse the feed End of story And like you're getting ready to leave
Starting point is 03:51:55 And his like gaggle of kids run over and they're like need money dad and he's like I'm going with the guys and when I leave the chief will pay for your food and they're like yeah and then his kids become party members in the DLC and you know what they're all right um what the fuck were the um
Starting point is 03:52:20 the couple in full metal again big guy and tough girl um what am i forgot the master yeah and her husband Well, they're not parents. They're definitively not parents. Okay, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, remembering something.
Starting point is 03:52:42 Uh, Siganizumi, yeah, okay, no, never mind. Yeah. Um, what you're thinking of is the Hughes family. The Hughes family are excellent parents. It's been a minute. Anyway, anyway, um, the Kent's, correct answer. Yeah, no, the cats are the best. and it's not so much in what we see,
Starting point is 03:53:06 but it's their effect. Right? The Kent's raised just a good old boy from Kansas who wants to do the right thing and they clearly nailed it because if they didn't, it'd be a problem. Kevin Kossner's pop, it can't, is like the word.
Starting point is 03:53:25 I can't. We're so far out and I'm just still like, just in awe how terrible depiction of any character that's been. It's like the inverse of his character. It's the worst. All right. It's the worst.
Starting point is 03:53:42 Oh, my God. Debbie from Invincible. I don't know who that is. I am soon. That's, that's... Oh, Invincible Mom. Invincible Mom is pretty good. Invincible's mom is pretty good.
Starting point is 03:53:55 That's a good parent. Sandra O. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. All right. Let's see here. You know who else is a terrible, terrible parent? almost the entire cast of next generation in their own episodes.
Starting point is 03:54:13 Oh, no. Especially Picard. Picard is a god-awful parent. Also, this is not a fictional character, but I want to throw Rick Moranis on the fucking list. Oh yeah, he's good. He's good. Because he's like, yeah, I'm out, actually. I did my movies.
Starting point is 03:54:46 Now I have money and I'm going to just hang out with my kids all day. I have a family to take care of. Bye. That's it. So, anyway. Worf is such a bad parent. His child resorts to time travel. To get his approval.
Starting point is 03:55:04 Well, they, one. day, one day I'm gonna, I'm gonna you're gonna watch these Star Trek episodes. At some point, actually you're coming up on a good starting point in about five years. And I will
Starting point is 03:55:28 finally get to play the game where I tell you what happened in the Star Trek episode and you say, fuck you, there's no way. And I go, yes there is. Yes, there is. Everything I will ever tell you about Star Trek totally happened.
Starting point is 03:55:44 And you're going to say there's no way the phrase roaming rape gangs was uttered in a Star Trek episode. And I'll say to you, not just once either. Like 10 times in that episode. God damn it. Was it said by Whoopi Goldberg? It was not. It was said by Jonathan Frakes. Oh.
Starting point is 03:56:09 We made it up. And it didn't happen. And Brent Spiner. Complete fabrication. Okay, let's take one over here. Name not given. Hey, Woo, Wu, and Papa. Long time listener, first time emailer.
Starting point is 03:56:28 Over the last week, there was a rumor that Honkai Star Rail's upcoming 4.0 patch was going to be delayed because there's a whole geopolitical mess right now going on with China and Japan that takes too long to get into. Anyway, it was just confirmed that it's getting delayed by two weeks and they're essentially going to have to redo an entire year's worth of content around a month before the content was supposed to drop because the story was meant to take place. in an area based off of Japan, and there's a big moratorium on Japanese representation in Chinese media at the moment because of said tension.
Starting point is 03:56:57 Ever heard of any other game that had such a massive change of content so close to launch and where they had to redo amounts of the game story, voice acting, etc.? Thanks for all the years. There is a definitive answer, and I know you're reading my mind on it. So once again... Oh, I don't know. I actually am not. I'm not reading your mind. Metal gear fucking solid
Starting point is 03:57:21 two. Oh, that is the killer, isn't it? I was thinking of the opposite of this example. But yeah, MGS 2 has footage, so it went gold on what, 9 10? 10. 10? 9, 9, 9? Like it's just
Starting point is 03:57:37 it had a, so if you ever wondered why when you're fighting on top of Arsenal gear, there's like a weird cut scene that's only like two seconds long of Arsenal gear moving towards the city and then to just smash cuts to you way deep in the city like way deep on fire and everything's burning it's because originally there was a cg cut scene there of arsenal gear plowing into the twin towers new york manhattan uh um uh coast and it literally just plows right through the twin towers and blows right
Starting point is 03:58:04 through them all the way to the center of fucking manhattan um and they had to cut that shit and they had to cut that shit like the last second like there's a reason that they just cut it like they actually took the cut scene and just cut it. It's the weirdest moment. Of all the weird shit happening in MGS 2 that confuses you, there is a just, we're cutting away from this big crash moment where you just don't understand what the fuck is happening. And years later, we find out it's because that was going to show that. I don't think we, I don't think we learned about that cut or edit or so until like he told
Starting point is 03:58:39 the world. It was many years later. Many years later. So I have the opposite. So this is Japan and, uh, correct. which if you're not up to date on your last 70 years of geopolitics and in some cases last thousand years of geopolitics Japan and China and Korea sometimes don't get along. It's like a whole thing. A little tense. A little tense. So the Japanese gaming company Sega has released a number of games in the Ruega Gotoku series or like a dragon series in which it frames Koreans maybe not.
Starting point is 03:59:17 in the best light as implying that they're sleeper agents hiding among us ready to pop up as a secret Korean ready to kill you and your family at any given time so hasn't had the best also the the jacuzza like a dragon series is fairly conservative in its politics and uh iffy on a lot of stuff but they wanted to open the games up into the korean market so they made a huge push they said yakuza six the song of life is going to be the first game the first real big release of the Like a Dragon series in Korea. And what we're going to do is we are going to have the Chinese
Starting point is 03:59:53 be the villains this time. So we can all gather around and enjoy that. Korea shouldn't have a problem with that. And then what we're going to do is we're going to have a minor antagonist played by a very famous Korean pop star who looks like Virgil the Dragon. And it's going to be really, really, really popular.
Starting point is 04:00:11 And we're going to nail it. And then we're going to get it approved for Korea. We're going to get it translated into Korean. We're going to have it dubbed. Everything's going to be good to go. And then, hey, guess what? The Korean government banned it the day before release to fuck Sega over on purpose. Wow.
Starting point is 04:00:30 So basically that... He literally watched them do all that shit and approved it. And then the day before Yakuza 6th, the Song of Life went on Sound Korea, they went, fuck you, banned. Which sounds very similar to what was happening in Yakuza Zero with the, with the, Chinese zombie man. Yeah, that shit's crazy. And then the replacement actor.
Starting point is 04:00:52 Also, the name for that's really fucking vindictive and targeted. That's wild. The name for the type of sleeper agent that you're describing is popularly known as a Manchurian candidate.
Starting point is 04:01:06 Yeah. FYI. Yeah. Hmm. So is Manchurian candidate supposed to be like mental control? sleeper agent or just sleeper agent in general? It's a mental control agent. It's somebody who's been
Starting point is 04:01:20 programmed. Okay. So the secret Korean is very different because they just hate the Japanese hard enough that they'll pretend for 70 years and then go terrorist at a moment's notice. Okay, right, right. Okay, so at the moment that like the revolution starts, the uprising begins, you just know that it's tight. There were Koreans everywhere among us.
Starting point is 04:01:39 Yeah, okay, okay, I see. The person running your local host club could be Korean. The guy at the back alley doctors, he could be Korean. Those guys playing Mahjong under the tower,
Starting point is 04:01:56 they could all be Korean. This Japanese guy who's also a gangster, he could be Korean. That other gangster who hates the Koreans, guess what? He's Korean. He's the most
Starting point is 04:02:13 Korean one of all. You guessed it. Frank Stallone. Yes. The only context I have is in fucking eight when they mentioned them and then we see arrowmen lean out of the bushes and like shoot secret arrows, mind you. Do you mean seven? Seven, sorry. Yeah, seven for like two seconds.
Starting point is 04:02:33 Willie. I want, I want you to know that. So the mafia that you run into in seven is the same one that care you fought in two and six. They're called Jingwon. And the idea that you get to talk to them is so crazy. It's so nuts. They're just meant to be an invisible force. They're played like the Nazgoule in Lord of the Rings.
Starting point is 04:03:06 Like the fucking Specter demons that just show up. I have the context of zero. So I do remember when it was like Chinese. man, go fight him, you know, before he gets a name. And you know, hey, do you know what they, you know how they get around it? You know how they get around it for seven? How they're like, okay, so these guys were like the secret under evil hiding in our society. They get around it two ways.
Starting point is 04:03:35 One, they bring a character, that pop star, bring him back to life. And when you're like, aren't you dead, he goes, yeah. And you're like, this is really straining credibility because I saw your brains fly out the back of your head. Like, no joke. Did that happen? He's like, yeah, totally. I got better, though. And you're like, okay, sure.
Starting point is 04:04:00 And the leader of the gomitul, or the comitial, my pronunciation is a really hot lady. Okay. And that's it. Damn. Yakuza 7 also creates maybe some of the funniest like accidental racisms ever
Starting point is 04:04:20 like Chinese people are weak to electricity and use ice attacks against Koreans because you have a dragon dragon quest you have a dragon quest format yeah
Starting point is 04:04:32 oh shit yeah okay all right yeah and what this means is that ir Yijin the K-pop star who Kiro helps out through multiple games, who you meet in seven,
Starting point is 04:04:51 despite being Korean and having an ice weakness, also uses ice attack. So he's like one of those weird Pokemon that has its own type being a weakness. So can you try out an element on somebody that you don't know what they are? And guess, oh! He got electrocuted.
Starting point is 04:05:17 He must be Chinese. Only one of the funniest jokes in that whole series is the very first fight in Hawaii. A guy pulls out a gun. Like you go to America. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They just start pulling out pistols. That's correct.
Starting point is 04:05:35 That is, that is correct. It's so fucking funny. That is very fair. Yeah. You also get to find. out that like certain ethnic types are like weak to gun in the in the infinite
Starting point is 04:05:46 system? I mean like when you think about it some people are going to see a gun come out and will not be as phased as others would by the mere presence of it in the situation.
Starting point is 04:06:07 This is this is true. This is kind of true. Depending on where you come from. You might, you know, you might see a bunch of different reactions to that, some of which are super effective. Damn, that's great. That's phenomenal. Yeah, I remember watching Yakuza Six get canceled in Korea. It was like the day before game.
Starting point is 04:06:35 I was just like mouth open, just like, oh my God. They got, like, can you imagine how that must have felt for that guy, that K-pop star, that got fucking tagged. And he's like, oh man, they really hate you. Yeah, that was crazy. Thanks for the money. Thanks for the paycheck. Thanks for the fucking, yeah. Bro, what if your own parents are secretly Korean?
Starting point is 04:07:00 Now what? I'm trying to think. No, that happens. No, it doesn't. Shut up. No, no, it does it. It does it. Shut your, shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 04:07:15 Hold on, hold on. There's a character in Yakuza whose parent is secretly Chinese. And a huge part of the plot revolves around the fact that that makes them Chinese. Oh my God. Like, how is this? How is this franchise still going? This is, okay. So I have played all of these.
Starting point is 04:07:44 almost almost to complete i think a lost judgment two is the only one i haven't beaten right um they're so racist like that like like to like a lot of people in the west and like europe it flies over their head because it's like korean tie yeah yeah no you know like yeah like like it's like balkins racism like you can't possibly keep up with what's going on like it's oh man so racist it's unbelievable And so whenever somebody's like, I can't believe they hired like a sex abuser to play an actor in Kiwami 3. I'm like, you guys aren't paying attention. These games are crazy sexist and crazy misogynist and crazy racist.
Starting point is 04:08:30 God damn it, man. I was just getting warmed up going Kuze. Yeah, we're having fun. What the fuck is happening? It's, oh, it's so, like, he. says as he secretly with glee and delight wants to know more. Oh, man. It's, oh.
Starting point is 04:08:51 Oh, no, this is horrible. What? In my Yakuza? God forbid. All right. There is a quest in Yakuza 6 in which the ending statement, like, Kiryu's voice is like the voice of the developers a lot of times on these like moral quandary quests where you were dealing with a Chinese,
Starting point is 04:09:16 man who's blowing up buildings for fun. And Kierhue's end of quest like takeaway is, quote, I guess not all Chinese people are terrorists. Oh, my God. And I did that quest on stream. People in this chat remember that happening. It was crazy. Guitar strum.
Starting point is 04:09:38 Badoo, dero. Derole. Yes. Yes. Exactly. All right. All right. that'll do that'll do so to answer your question not the like a dragon series they won't change nothing for nobody see you next week

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