Castle Super Beast - CSB374: One Load Might Be Refused

Episode Date: June 3, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:40 Hey, you're a black screen right now. Oh, my God. All right. Hey, what's up? Jesus Christ. Hi. Are you having fun over there, dog? Uh, it's, there's a million things going.
Starting point is 00:00:52 We have two weeks of shit to catch up on, plus an event that just finished. I'm glad it was a slow day today. Yeah. That we have plenty of time to talk about that. And furthermore, it is, it is like the computer just started chugging a bit here. So everything's crazy. Oh, that's so awesome! It's great how it all comes.
Starting point is 00:01:10 together. So. Hell yeah. All right. We are, we are starting a bit later in the day today. I'll show you this. Here, I'll show you this dog. That is, make you feel better?
Starting point is 00:01:19 That dog is moving in real time. That's good. He's squishy. Yeah. Yeah. I can look at the jiggle of his squish to tell if your frame rate is good. My frame rate could be better. I'm looking at it in my own thing.
Starting point is 00:01:31 And it could be better. But I'll live. I've been a low frame rate man before. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. By the way, chops. I was younger. Chops are looking pretty sick.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Thank you. Thank you. I'm in the new stage of my, my, my beard where I go to kiss my baby on his cheek. And he looks at me and goes, Dad, you go shave. And I go. Okay. And then I'm like, do you want to come with me? And he's like, yeah!
Starting point is 00:01:58 And then we have like a shaving adventure. And it's really cool. I am looking forward to the day when she'll reach up and grab this patch that she goes for and feel nothing and get really confused because she loves Yankin. He didn't react at all. all. I dyed my hair fucking purple and he just went purple dead da. It was like the most extreme possible change I could do and he was like cute. Yeah, cool, whatever. So I guess I'll start there in our rush fucking speedcast of things to go through two weeks compressed state of play fucking go. But it was crazy because the, you know, Punch Kid is is coming along and
Starting point is 00:02:41 as I've been stating, she's been blowing through all kinds of she is drumming and and waving and saying words and milestones are fun because they're always they're always like nothing, nothing, nothing, 10 milestones at once. Right.
Starting point is 00:02:57 And all that stuff has been happening. I went to go visit my cousin who had his kid two months ahead of ours and Oh wow, good timing. The timing is pretty solid. And that kid is, um, so one, just a tank of a baby,
Starting point is 00:03:13 just this huge, completely opposite, giant boy. They make babies big now. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Everyone's calling him Brutus because he looks like a Brutus, right? And this tank baby is also got an older brother
Starting point is 00:03:27 who's a couple years older to follow and model off of. So what we're seeing with their parallel, like, milestone clearance is no waving, no words, barely, not much communication in general, all that social stuff is still just really early,
Starting point is 00:03:45 but he's getting up and hooffing it. He's crawling and rolling and hooffing it, whereas Punch Kid ain't moving anywhere and refuses to move. She just sits on the spot and talks at you. Especially when it's early, like right around the age your girl is, like they have a really not well-rounded skill set.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Yes. Like they'll pick like, one, maybe two concepts and like, I'm going to do this one until I'm good at it. Then maybe I'll start on the other ones. He put all stats in agility and she has it all in charisma right now. And that's
Starting point is 00:04:23 it. Right. She's just gabin faster and further. Yeah, my dude is a yapper. Like a yapper. Like some of the physical milestones for gross motor. He was like a tiny bit behind on. But then we got, we actually had the months wrong. So he's actually like dead on. But
Starting point is 00:04:41 just yap, yap, yap, yap all the time. Like, that is where he is putting all of his energy into yapping and learning how to ask for things that he wants. No. It's kind of nuts. And, like, whereas mobile baby, Brutus, I was told a story in which he was asleep and,
Starting point is 00:05:04 he's asleep, like, on a bed. And basically, you know, dad looked walked out for a second and uh turned around and brutus was right behind him just behind him like by his legs like hey what's up and you're like hold on a minute you were sleeping that was you woke up found your way off the bed and walked over to us yeah and no one heard anything and you're like hey and you're like what the fuck i'm glad that i got yap baby instead of hypermobile baby because hyper mobile baby is terrifying. Yeah. Yeah. You know that
Starting point is 00:05:43 the, because exactly, and the silence with which this action occurred is quite scary. How did you get here or where are you? Are not questions I want to have to ask myself for like another year. No, I'm kind of okay with the idea of mobility being delayed for the moment. So
Starting point is 00:05:58 that's all great. But it was nice. Like one of the things I'm dealing with right now, the kid has been able to fix the baby gate closed. Oh. Like pull the latch and close it has never once attempted to open it because I know he totally
Starting point is 00:06:20 can if he wants to. Interesting. He has just never had the idea I should open the baby gate. Interesting. Okay. Yeah. Like the instant he has that idea once just toss all the gates in the house because they're not going to be worth anything anymore.
Starting point is 00:06:36 That's done. Mm-hmm. Um, she has had the concept, when it comes to movement, she finally understands how to move backwards. But that's a good one. But, but there's no forward. And when the thing she wants is in front of her, she'll back away from it because that's the only action she understands. Why is it getting further? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:58 But, but for some reason, let's like, she can, she will like put her hands right on top of my leg and just stand up and be like, I'm standing. I'm sure. I'm upright and I think she's gonna skip the crawl. I think she's gonna go right to fucking high step in. My guy would he could stand and he could stand for a while. He could stand for months before he could walk
Starting point is 00:07:20 and he would want to go but he would get super mad at his legs because he's like you're not doing the fucking thing I want you to do. You could see that he didn't have like the neurons and the motor control so he was just like fucking go and his legs would
Starting point is 00:07:38 like the little like the baby wiggle that moment of being like almost like frustrated person waking up and doing physiotherapy where you're like no no my brain understands but I don't have the muscle control so now you're hearing the frustration of
Starting point is 00:07:53 god damn it this body this body won't move anyway uh all right our kids are our treasure they are the best and they're the best better than the other children
Starting point is 00:08:08 And in fact, I can now say we've had, after going to Anime North, three, no, for a plane ride with no cry. Just chill. That age, super easy. Just chill. Okay. Okay. Well, yeah, take the, take the good feel away here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:30 No, no, no. Disarm it. No, no, you still have to be like kind supporting on the ball parents. but if you are and your baby isn't like a terror, yeah, that age, because mom nurses them and they, they're comfy, they're with mom and dad and the noise of the airplane. In about six months to a year, no. Right, right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Remember the last time I came to see you guys? Yes, yes, yes. No. And we got, when we ran into you, we're like, don't just, that was the one thing we had to say right away, don't travel at this age. Yeah. Don't do it. I mean, fortunately, you know, Toronto is also a. much shorter plane ride.
Starting point is 00:09:08 But it's a little bit. Cross the way. But that being said, you know, we kind of just picked up and went over. I went and did, you know, the con and stuff. Meanwhile, punch mom, punch kid, went off, saw some family and got to hang out and meet some folks. And yeah, and it was, again, just one of these weekends of like, whoa, you're further along with just strangers and people and socializing.
Starting point is 00:09:36 and crossing these milestones all in one giant leap than we thought. But good times, and I guess to quickly summarize while... Showing off your baby being like, guess what? I have the better baby. I mean, I mean, literally, literally that was the deal. Yeah. And then you get that thing of like, like, okay, everybody talks about how cute their baby is, but no, you don't understand.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Me and Page have had like sit downs where we're just like, we're like, We're staring at the child like we're a looks maxer, just being like, no, it's not because it's, no, no, it's objective. It's not because we're mom and dad, just the most adorable child that's ever lived. Reggie did get my, get up my album cover photo, which is me holding the kid while punch moms tightening my dreads. Oh, yeah, I saw that. All in one. Like, that's your, your Mr. Morale style album cover, you know, perfect. with that.
Starting point is 00:10:38 The family man. So very cool. Had a great time. Did some panels. We did a versus wolves. We did a Woolly versus. And we met some people, shook some hands. Shoutouts, Dan Olson, who came through.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Oh, cool. Yeah. It was wild because he was just chilling, came down and, like, you know, wanted to hang and, like, do a little thing. And while there, originally the plan was just, like, point camera at desk and film. And then I was like, Reggie, just sit here. Make sure the camera's on and pointing at the desk.
Starting point is 00:11:14 And it's like, okay, cool. And then Dan's like, I got that. No worries. And he sits down and starts craning and doing fucking like actual cinematography. And I'm like, oh, my God. This is incredible. That's super cool. So hooray for him.
Starting point is 00:11:31 And hooray for everything he has to say about Mr. Beast. and whatever's going on over there, which... What is going on over there? The Beast games are... I don't know, but hey, it doesn't... Whatever, whatever is going on over there, I'm sure it has no bearing on our Roost Podcast Network, which has been acquired by Night Media, a beast company.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Oh, it has? Oh, okay. Fucking whatever. Um, that shit's a mess. A subsidiary of a subsidiary of a subsidiary. That shit's a mess. It's falling apart, dude. Anyway, um, yeah, uh, um, folding ideas. Great, great video of just like, why the fuck did you invite me out to the Beast games? Did you not know I would rip this shit apart?
Starting point is 00:12:23 Okay. The answer is no. Um, uh, that was cool. Hanging out in line, uh, meeting some folks. Someone walks up and goes, hey, been watching since forever. I see the old, like, red bubble Willie Versus shirt on. I'm like, oh, cool. Wow, that's a throwback.
Starting point is 00:12:40 That's, yeah, that's sick. And it's like, by the way, I'm solidus. And I'm like, you fucking asshole, you piece of shit. You have been one province. You've been here the whole time. There have been many opportunities. And you've never once, never once. Never once.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Come to say hi. You fucking get the fuck over here. Why bother? Why make a fuss? Literally, like, however. many years it's been, you're a stone's throw and we've never met you. That's insane. I berated him the entire time. That's really funny. Yeah. And then he got to enjoy a spirited discussion about the end of Expedition 33 while a bunch of people yelled at each other. Did it get intense?
Starting point is 00:13:27 I mean, basically the deal is as such. There are a lot of people who are wrong. There are. You, so I remember you came in, you crossed that finish line, and you came in going, I am so prepared to go to war with Willie. I had a document. I had notes. Yep. And I'm like, hey, hey, literally say less. There is only one correct choice here, right? But then we had to both pretend to be the other person so we could have the discussion.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Right. and then after that, right, things continued. John's on the wrong side of history. That's there on the record. And then now Reggie crossed and has cemented his position on the wrong side of history. And that has been intense. And there was a moment of there's a moment of, there's a moment of basically establishing, you know, like I was, I was yelling, we were yelling about all that. And then...
Starting point is 00:14:31 That's in your house, dude. We were yelling about all that shit, I know, right? And then there was a moment of, like, Dan going, like, hold the fuck, hold the fuck on. Woolly, what are you talking about? Like, please don't tell me. Whisper, whisper, whisper. And then he blows up and goes, I can't believe you know these monsters, Woolley. What is wrong with you?
Starting point is 00:14:52 How are you friends with these people? And I'm like, thank you. I'm glad. I'm glad professional YouTube smart person. Dan Olson knows what's up. You know. Although he's more critical in a way that is like he is fault. He is faulting the writing in a bunch of ways that he.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Yeah, no, I'm familiar with those complaints. They didn't really bother me all that much. I can see. But I get it. Yeah. That being said, yeah. So these lines have been drawn. And there is now a new, when you walk into a room with anyone you're meeting for the
Starting point is 00:15:30 first time that's another fucking YouTube person or whatever, you can throw this out there like Lisa needs braces and see, and see the room split. Do you remember when we were, we had just met each other, we barely knew each other, and it was 2004
Starting point is 00:15:46 in the Best Buy in the forum, and I ran into a guy and he had a World of Warcraft shirt on. And I went, oh, hey, you play World of Warcraft, and he went, yeah, and I went, Alliance or Horde, and he went, alliance, and I went, fuck off, bitch. around and you were standing there and you were just like, why?
Starting point is 00:16:06 From a potential friend with a common interest into go fuck yourself, I now hate you more than I did knowing nothing about you. We're back there again. We are. The gamers yearn for discourse. And again, you know, as solidest witnessed, not a moment's discussion about the cool video game mechanics and how sick it is to play. It's about emotions.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Yeah. So that was fun. While we were there, a video may have slipped on screen. And it might have shown some things. I don't know. What has, what, what's been going, what have you been receiving? What have I been receiving? I have received about a dozen people going, Pat, did you see the end of what?
Starting point is 00:17:00 versus a panel at Anime North. And I go, what? Why? And they go, because he showed a thing. And I'm like, oh, did he? Huh, weird. Weird. I guess I'll have to talk to him about that on Monday. But now it's Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:17:18 But then it was Wednesday. But then it was Tuesday again. All right, look, you fuckers. Here's what you're getting. Here's what you're getting. You are getting the hand extended. and you're getting Woolly to come in and sample a little bit, a little bit of the seeds that are being held out here as a tour of the FGC retirement home is now officially announced. That is me taking a look at FF14.
Starting point is 00:17:50 But wait, there's more. I also have something to announce. The sequel to Get Out of Fighting Games get into FF14. get into FF14 will also be coming out in the near future with our friend and guest Woolli Versus on the show
Starting point is 00:18:09 What Listen Listen listen listen listen Let me state from the outset I do not know If I'm even going to like this shit But I'm You could hate that shit and it would last two episodes
Starting point is 00:18:26 Yeah So I That's funny. That's funny as shit. So I'm giving this a college try. And I am setting an initial taste test to see. And providing that shit's going all right. How about we do that Realm Reborn?
Starting point is 00:18:49 So I think this is just a win-win for everybody. Because you being like, wow, this is delicious. Yay. Or you being like, oh, this smells like farts. But I still have to do at least X amount of it. It's also really funny. I did. I did.
Starting point is 00:19:08 I promised you X amount. Yeah, yeah, that's true. And we will see what X amount looks like. Don't tell them. Don't tell them. No, no, no, no, no. It's funner. It's funner when they don't know.
Starting point is 00:19:19 But this is, this is what it is. And when will that be? This will be as soon as we beat. pragmata. Oh, you didn't beat pragmata? We totally beat pragmata yesterday. Oh, so it's Monday then. So then we can start this next week. Now I would do you, by the way, do you know SSJ Klico? No. Okay, SSJ Klico is a guy who shows up on my show. I posted with the thing I sent you yesterday the get out of fighting games intro, but it had 10 seconds extra where it had been modified
Starting point is 00:19:58 to include FF14 music. And the multiple thousands of people who watched it, one guy actually watched the whole thing and went, hey, there's FF14 music at the end of this. But in particular, I posted
Starting point is 00:20:15 it in the Fad Stairs at Discord and SSJ Klyko goes, man, this would be really funny if at the end you had like a bunch of people playing FF14 and it was actually like getting to FF40. Wouldn't that be really funny? And I'm like, bro, you didn't watch it. Yo, I mean, I told you, I'm like, I said I'll drop that shit at the end of the panel.
Starting point is 00:20:34 We'll see what happens. And it got a pop in the room. But, you know, no one had much. Like, one or two people came up afterwards and went, oh, yeah. And I was like, yeah. But it didn't really make its way too far up beyond that. So, you know, news travels as it travels. However, whatever the, whatever the results are going to be here, I know.
Starting point is 00:20:56 what I did what I did get and see was like why not wait for the new shit to come and some of that stuff that's coming down the line with the Ava plus the Redoes because that's all spread out right that's over the course of years and if you and if you hopped on this shit and we're like wow I actually love the taste of this shit then you have like a fucking on ramp to the fucking timing like Brennan started I think last month and he's already at Chetto Bringers like he's been cooking it like he's like He's been just fucking going nuts on it. And, um, and, and, uh, word on the street is, now is the time. Now is the time. So, so we'll find out. We'll find out. You know, I'm approaching like this.
Starting point is 00:21:43 I taught you about what this means. Uh, this is, this is my art teacher, my art history teacher, Monday morning, 8 a.m., telling us when you go to the art history museums, you, you're, hold your hands out and you take in with open arms what you're looking at. You have an open stance ready to receive the information. If someone puts some random shit up on the slop stream, you're ready to receive the information. I'm here to accept whatever.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Okay. All right. Open arms and an open heart. And then the heart closes first. Then the arms close. There might be a load refused. Yeah, there might be. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Yeah. as possible. I might refuse one load. So you know what's great? Because the word on the street, by the way, is me. I'm the word on the street. I was like, Wully, the time is now. And I told you that.
Starting point is 00:22:40 And I was like, it is. And then I've been playing over the past couple of weeks since we decided on this. And you know what I see when I run my roulette? Just sprout upon sprout upon sprout. A tsunami. of new players. Just an absolute, just like,
Starting point is 00:23:00 everybody who saw that fucking fan fest shit went, okay, back I come. Right, right, right. Now, Pat, a lot of people are going to have a lot of advice as to how... Oh, you need to fucking pick two people. Me and one other person and only them. Because all the advice will fucking slam into each other
Starting point is 00:23:24 and become like a soup. Yeah. And I mean, look, I've, I've chatted with some of the folks I know that play. I have some friends that are in there. I've told you, men's out there fucking clearing ultras or ultimates or whatever they're called, right? That type of person is not guaranteed to be helpful to a new player, because that is very far away. Everyone's in their own, yeah. But all this to say that you have assured with confidence,
Starting point is 00:23:56 that you've got a plan here and you think it works out. You think this is, this is up. This is good. The answer to that plan is I turn on New Game Plus and just we just roll it. That's it.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Yeah. So we will find out in short order. You should find another friend of yours who has made Final Fantasy 14 beginner guides. I have I see
Starting point is 00:24:28 You go find yourself another one Yeah I mean again I have I have Like in terms of like literally I have people like him And then I have people that are literally Are only social players That don't even
Starting point is 00:24:41 Like game it They just hang out You know That is a great segue So One of the One of the really good examples of how now is the time I have been
Starting point is 00:24:55 adopted by a gaggle of V-tubers. Yes. I have been spending Tuesdays, the past couple of weeks with Hina Bobina, with Ecto, with Kromu, and Mint Castella. And these
Starting point is 00:25:10 girls are social FF14 players. And why that I mean, they pick a spot, they hang, they gab for like 90 minutes. And then I go, does anyone want to do like a dungeon? And they go, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:27 And then the dungeon is over. And then here comes the yapping once again. Right. Right, right, right. These girls are great. I really like them a lot. They are funny. They are brain-rodded to shit. It's, it's, I don't know if it's, I don't know if it's, it's a job requirement. A V-Tuber thing.
Starting point is 00:25:46 It's a job requirement, yeah. The brain rod is crazy. It's bad. but that's that's exactly the type. Also I'm super old. But that's exactly the type, you know. That's coming back on me because I'm so old and bald. But it's all good fun. So that's actually, I'm doing that today as soon as the podcast is over. Nothing else to say other than it's a blast. It's very interesting for me to play with people who are not goal oriented or not like exclusively goal oriented. Because all of my friends that I met playing FF14 are all like, we can talk while we're doing this stuff.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like we're going to bang out every single roulette in a three hour period.
Starting point is 00:26:33 And then Gab. No, I was hearing about like the process of getting a team to clear the hardest ultimate ultra. UMAD is on right now. And like people are doing two weeks, like two weeks, three weeks of like, like, daily almost like nine to five levels of practice. There's a gradient on this earth of how much time you want. Do you want to do, do you want to play a fucking video game?
Starting point is 00:27:06 Just play a fucking video game. Do you want to clear some harder content? Maybe meet some friends who are approximately the same skill level. Do you want to clear anything in that game that says ultimate in front of or after it? get ready to second job at like a freak. Mm-hmm. This is content that's supposed to last over a year just because clearers are low.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Yeah. This was made for freaks, for non-human video game players. Like I said, I think, like, you know, MINS's one of those people that's like, I'm here to edit videos and fucking clear, it's literally called clear ultimates.
Starting point is 00:27:43 It's called you mad because I guess, dancing mad ultimate, right, right. Just like Ultima weapon, Ultimate is U-WU. I see. Okay. And the Epic of Alexander
Starting point is 00:27:55 is T. Not U-A? No. It's not called, it's not called Ultimate. It's called the
Starting point is 00:28:06 Epic of Alexander, so T-E-A. Okay, okay. Cool. Okay. So there are still many other things to discuss. There's a couple.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Right. So. One or two. Besides, besides, fun travel and announcing FF14.
Starting point is 00:28:25 The only other thing I was going to talk about, which will segue, I'm sure. Welcome, nerds. Into you is getting some time on that Mena the Hollower. I also got some time on that Mena the Hollower. That games the fucking shit, dude. Okay. It's really good. I have some feelings.
Starting point is 00:28:48 I'm sure you do. So Mena the Hollower is, yacht club's, you know, new franchise. And that shit is excellent. It has their attention to detail for, I mean, everything they learned along the way with Shovel Night, you know, in the last, especially like the quality of the last updates, just going right away into this.
Starting point is 00:29:09 But it's their take on a link to the past style, Link's Awakening, top-down classic Zelda. Like Oracle of seasons more. Plus, Castlevania. Like very strong Castlevania. So I have to say that like, it's fucking great, but I am hitting up against, like, what I think are my own feelings a little bit on it. In that, like, I was, I have two things. One, I wanted a more, I wanted less of a Souls thing and more of a Zelda thing, I guess.
Starting point is 00:29:48 I feel like I was surprised by how much souls they went with, as opposed to just like classic Zelda. And second, yeah, well, okay, first that, I'll say that, right? Yeah, go ahead. That is not souls, that's Castlevania. Okay, the progression and the corpse run. Not the corpse run, but like the overall, the difficulty, the flying enemies that bang you off ledges, the general like thing
Starting point is 00:30:20 the only thing that's like explicitly souls is your corpse run and your healing. And your healing the leveling up the healing yeah you know your your sub weapons
Starting point is 00:30:32 and your general like enemy encounters is like a full mix and your difficulty is a mix of classic gasoline and like a Game Boy Color Zelda. I guess so. I feel like the I mean the default world is like
Starting point is 00:30:45 like here to kick your ass, right? Most enemies are outmaneuvering you, hitting you harder, killing you quicker, and knocking you into disadvantageous positions on first encounter. So, you know, it's a game of like, nope, every step you take, every move you make, got to learn to do it properly. And there's something really satisfying about like understanding the hollowing mechanic, which is jumping, diving into the ground and moving out of the way as your escape, as your defense mechanism. Yeah. That's your dodge roll, which is pretty cool. It's also your movement. Yes. And there's platforming involved with it.
Starting point is 00:31:20 There's very serious platforming involved with it. And this is my second thing where I'm like, the amount of jump verticality and overall platforming that the game has is also not super Zelda-ish. It's Castlevania. Right. But the camera angle is Zelda. And I'm like, I would much rhaps. a side view for this type of platforming.
Starting point is 00:31:50 So what you're saying is that you want your Reese's cup with more chocolate and less peanut butter. Perhaps I, like, it's a, it's a weird thing. I'm trying to articulate it, but I'm kind of like,
Starting point is 00:32:04 you know, I have, I definitely love some classic Zelda and that, the way that feels. There's some stuff, too, about how the weapons work here that is like, also definitely like,
Starting point is 00:32:12 oh, that's not a Zelda weapon. That, like, I pick the hammer. and I was like, oh fuck, I think I regret picking this hammer because... The hammer's really good. It's also really hard.
Starting point is 00:32:22 You cannot redirect it. It took me most of the game that I played so far to be like, okay, wait, maybe the hammer does have some stuff. I picked it and I was like, I usually go with the big charge bonk, but I hate the fact, and I like you get a role, but I hate the fact that you cannot change its trajectory even at when you're fully charged. I don't like that. But if you aim up or down, the hitbox on the smear, actually goes left and right depending so it actually has a super wide hit box I would I would prefer a aim and release
Starting point is 00:32:51 though it like it's fucked to me over enough times that I'm like eh okay give me my next weapon right um but uh you can people are saying you can uh do you have to you can change the follow up there's a follow up you can get
Starting point is 00:33:07 okay well I don't I'm talking about the default hammer move set that you pick up right away you start a charge you're swinging left you cannot make yourself not swing left. The trick is to jump and do the charge and then releases you land. And it goes a different direction? No, but that's the exact timing. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:28 See, this, this is why I say it's more like Castlevania. Okay, but jumping and uncharging the time. None of that is, I'm talking about aiming the hammer in a different direction. If I'm pointing to the left, I want to swing to the right. after I charge up. So, so swing to the right where you wanted to. Okay, so, so this is, this is what I'm talking about. It's like, you know, we know, you know when we talk about, like,
Starting point is 00:33:54 swinging the great sword in a soul's game and then like... Or Monster Hunter, yeah. You swing and then you tap the direction and you get that, right? Yeah. Aim the direction you want it to go. So I understand that it's a committal thing, but it just doesn't feel as good as a result, I think. So that kind of was something I was like, eh. I think some of those enemies that are flying above you, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:13 you have your verticality of the game. there that like and platforming diagonally on certain things or other. I'm like, uh, this angle for this platforming. Yeah, I'm, I'm just kind of like I, I, I feel like I would prefer if it were again, like actually Castlevania, if you're saying 2D, you know, side view. Oh no, but that's why it's a, it's a, it's a melange. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, Zelda 2 also has its side view moments and all that. So anyway, this is a, whatever. I can tell the game is phenomenal and I can see everything about it that's really, really great. Have you encountered a ladder? Um, I've encountered ropes.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Okay. There's a ladder in the game, which is like one of the most intense puzzles I've seen in anything. And I'm just like, I was doing a whole sequence with it and I was like, this is like the best puzzle in a game I have ever fucking encountered ever. Cool. Interesting. Okay. Um, And you, and like, somebody said that right as I saw the ladder. I'm like, what do you mean? It's a puzzle. And then I was like, oh, my God. This ladder's incredible.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Interesting. Okay. No, I've beaten the, um, the, the, the first area got, you know, through the opening sort of like town introduction and then started like moving into some of the outside areas a little bit, you know, to which it feels like you could go probably level up a little bit before you walk in certain directions because you swing at something. I did a huge spiral around the beginning before doing one dungeon. Every screen in the game has some kind of secret bullshit on it.
Starting point is 00:35:56 I wouldn't be surprised. And some have multiple. And like it goes deep, deep, deep, deep. Thank God I was streaming it because I would like be in a room. I'm like, I don't know how to fucking get that. Do I have to come back with a thing? And someone in the chat would go, no, you can do it now. and and there's so much that you're like I must have to come back with an upgrade is like no you can do it now that it blows my fucking mind how'd your streams go incredible I did an eight hour stream on the first day and I did one dungeon damn I did a I did a five hour stream on the second day I did one dungeon wow okay there is there is a disgusting
Starting point is 00:36:41 amount of nonsense hidden one layer underneath the game in every fucking room in the entire game. Okay. I was going to buy the shield
Starting point is 00:36:54 as my second weapon, but I kind of decided, I'm like, wait, that's too similar to the hammer from what I have. So let me get something completely different.
Starting point is 00:37:02 So I got the gun as my second, you know, and that's a very different way to play it. It changes up your approach, but I do like that reloading means
Starting point is 00:37:10 getting in there and doing some melee. that's fun um but i yeah i'm still there's something about it and you know i guess the the the top view and what it's asking and all that it's not the difficulty it's it's there's but there's something that i'm still kind of like not grabbing you're not just not like perfectly gelled with like the control demands and as a result it's not pulling me back in like fuck yeah i need to get more right now like i'm a little i have i'm a little bit cool on it, unfortunately, because of this thing I'm describing.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Yeah, so for me, I'm at the place of, like, the things you are, like, essentially describing are the way that I have wanted tons of games to work like that for years. So I'm in this place where I'll see people complain about the, you know, the movement or the way it aims. And, like, the specific complaint without modification, I'm like, no, that's, That's why it's good, though. Like, I am just like, right, like, this thing is, like, shaping up to be my favorite
Starting point is 00:38:21 Game Boy Color style thing that's ever existed. Yeah, I can tell, I can tell that it's a, it's just a personal feeling with how it's going. I can also tell that, like, the way the jump is and dive in the, the, the hollowing mechanic works is, like, super precise, you know, like, reading your tile jump, distance and spitting it back to you is how precise it gets. So what happens is that once you get further into the game, you get a situation where you like, you don't like beat a dungeon and get like a Zelda upgrade that gives you like more movement.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Like that isn't a thing that exists. Instead, you earn a accessory called a trinket and then that changes your character in some degree. And you kind of fine tune the way you want Mina to behave. with that stuff. Okay. So, for example, I got a trinket
Starting point is 00:39:17 that doubles the length of time you can stay burrowed. That's amazing. I also got a trinket that makes you move at regular speed on water, which means I can now burrow across
Starting point is 00:39:31 entire oceans because you can burrow underwater. You can't swim, but you can burrow underwater. Okay, okay. And then I also got an upgrade that gives you one bounce after you hit water. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:39:44 So I jump in, burrow like a whole screen, and then when I hop out, I bounce off the water again and I get to the end. That's great. That's super cool sounding. Yeah, I feel like I'm alternating between moments where the feel of the game is fucking phenomenal and moments where it's not jelling with me, you know? Yeah. Those moments where you are precisely borrowing under the enemy to get around them,
Starting point is 00:40:09 pop up to fight the big guy, poke, poke, poke, poke behind him, or precisely right at the end of your borough hopping out to get the maximum distance jump across multiple tiles. You know, those feel really, really good. And then there's these moments where I'm hopping across gaps diagonally onto tiles or doing some flower platforming. Or even just, again, charging the weapons and trying to jump and hit the bats in midair.
Starting point is 00:40:36 And it's like the angle just doesn't line up because Yeah, I'm describing. Yeah. Where they are in the, in the, in the, in the layer above your head versus the, and their shadow versus where you are on the ground is not just a hundred percent understood. So it feels bad there, you know? And yeah, I don't think that like, so I know that I, I guess, I didn't play all of the later top down Zelda's. So were there any of them that were jump heavy that were in this way? So I only played Minish Cap.
Starting point is 00:41:15 Okay. But it is my understanding that Zelda and jumping are just not friends at all. Okay. Zelda's just not a jumpy game. Right. So this does feel like a unique thing given what this game is doing. And again, if you're being an asshole, yelling skill issue, I repeat that it's not about the difficulty. I'm totally fine with a game
Starting point is 00:41:40 kicking my ass. It's the feel of what I'm looking at, alternating between these great precise moments and these moments where I'm like, I don't like how this feels, you know? But I'm You're not going to hear any argument from Pat fucking hates this Sonic game because of the jump physics on that concept. You know, that being said, though, but I know that Yacht Club is like fucking top, top level design and everything they do here. here, so everything is very precise and for a reason. So, excuse me, as you describe, um, more options for this stuff and the ability to, I guess, tweak the way it feels playing as her.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Yeah. That would be, that sounds phenomenal. And, and furthermore, I would say, like, I, I'd probably lean toward any weapon that can, um, minimize the amount of the, uh, sorry, Z-axis calculation at the moment. because I don't like calculating the floating bat enemy thing. I have a weapon for you, my friend. That thing. That will help you deal with your Z-axis.
Starting point is 00:42:44 It's the blast hammer. It's the hammer because of the swing upwards. Because the hammer charge thing, the smear is a hitbox. Yeah. So it hits everything above Mina as well. Yeah. In fact, all three of the starting weapons have extraordinarily pronounced, like, strengths and weaknesses,
Starting point is 00:43:05 alongside, not damage, but space. Okay. So the hammer has very, very wide, like, smear hitboxes. The daggers have very tiny ones, but they can, you stab, stab, stab, super fast. And the whip is quite slow, but is the only one with, like, a severely distended hitbox. That being said, so, yeah, I got a save up to go try those. now we're doing that thing though where like we've spent more time talking about
Starting point is 00:43:34 the particular two negatives I've brought up as opposed to how fucking great the rest of the game has been everything about the game is incredible the music is incredible the presentation is perfect this conversation is weirdly swerving towards it's something like no no no it's fucking great the story is charming the amount just the like the number one thing about the game for me is like the amount
Starting point is 00:43:52 of hidden bullshit on every single screen is legitimately intimidating like I will enter into what I would consider a nothing screen right and I'm like but is there something the answer is yes did I not play there wasn't there another game that was like a secret on every screen I don't know about that I feel like I've played a game that that had something like that I don't know if it was like a Metroidvania game
Starting point is 00:44:20 or something else that was like it doesn't ring a bell but there yeah there's something that was that was like a secret on almost every screen was a thing. In any case. I enjoy the game so much that I feel like me talking about it is boring.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Because all I have to say is I'm crazy about the controls. I'm crazy about the setting. I'm crazy about the use of color. The subweapons are all stellar. A lot of the subweapons have like really intense movement abilities. like huge dashes or hooks
Starting point is 00:44:59 The subweapons are 1,000% Castlevania. Yeah. Feels like they wanted to like Like shovel night is there The axe does the fucking arc. Like like shovel night is their homage To classic nest platformers, but like Mega Man and Ninja Guide
Starting point is 00:45:18 But like mostly Mega Man let's be honest. But this is like okay time to smash everything else together. Yeah. Well, the two are, the two are Game Boy Color Zelda and your classic Castlevania. Like, overwhelmingly. Like, those two influences are so much stronger than all the others. But I don't
Starting point is 00:45:34 want to diminish the amount of souls that you got going on with the again, the level up, the mechanic of the bonfire mechanic and things like that. I actually, I actually described, talk to somebody about this the other day, and I'm like, dark souls did not invent corpse runs. Right. It popularized them.
Starting point is 00:45:52 No. That's That is the exact same way that that conversation went when I was in chat. Corpse runs were popularized by Diablo 1 in 1996. Okay, okay. Enlightened me. I had no idea. That's it. That's the discussion.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Corpse runs were popularized by Diablo 1 in 1996. And if you died a second time, you lost all your shit? Yeah. Then Diablo 2, then World of Warcraft, EverQuest, etc. So then they were just ignored for a long time. and then brought back. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:26 The reason why people, you say Dark Souls is because the combination of checkpoint plus corpse run is feels like Dark Souls. But you don't level up at a save point in Mina. You level up when you just get the goddamn bones to level up. Well, so on the spot, yes, that's true. Which Diablo also was like that, no?
Starting point is 00:46:45 You level up on the spot? You level up on the spot. Yeah, right, right. And boning up, you can, you can choose to save your bones. for later, which is, that's quite generous, you know? You can, you can choose to save your bones for later, but it also levels up. So like right now, I need to earn 5,200 bones if I want to save them.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Yeah. And if I earn 5,200 bones, the next one will be like 6,000. But if you don't have enough to, to pocket them, you have to pull out enough to hit the level and then pocket that, right? Yeah. But you don't lose anything in the exchange. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Okay. Okay. You get to a point you make a lot of bones. Really fun, really fun world of characters that are, that feel like, you know, name. Everyone's got a name. Everyone's got a little animal thing or some of them are humans or there's a dude that looks like Link, you know. Suspiciously like Link. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:43 There's like a bunch of little, little fun characters and creatures chilling out. And I like. How many of the generators have you done? Oh, no, no, none yet. None yet. So I have done two, and what happens is you do a generator and a bunch of shit happens. Like a bunch of fucking shit happens. It's awesome.
Starting point is 00:48:04 I don't want to tell you what kind of shit, but like, oh yeah, I'm fully expecting, like, you know, if this is, again, this is this is Yacht Club, right? So I'm fully expecting there is going to be many a twist and turn along the way and perhaps even more Ness pulls or SNES pulls. or SNS-poles that are not immediately obvious right now. But I love... No, I'd say it's seldom in Castlevania. Those, like, I played about 20 hours. It's those two. Well, I do love, something I do love about it is how I'll turn a corner multiple times
Starting point is 00:48:37 and come across a big fucking dude just sitting there. Like, we doing this? You know, and you're like, oh, give me a second. Let me go, let me go heal up a little bit, and I'll be right back, you know? I do like that aspect of it where you walk a couple screens and there are not bosses but just big fuckers
Starting point is 00:48:57 big guys that are gonna take you're and if you're like if you're in like a harder zone those big guys just wipe you in one and you're like okay yeah and that is something that I don't I don't get out of a lot of games
Starting point is 00:49:11 but I love it when I do where you're like you're walking around an area and you see something that's like hey if you want this smoke you can come get it any time or you can keep moving, right? Which is something I know from souls, right? Walking around fucking Limgrave
Starting point is 00:49:26 and seeing shit just stand in there like, yeah? I like that. And this is a fun bit here, so. So like, for example, like, our perspectives here are a little different because, like, I have more familiarity with, like, one of its prior, like, its, like, tonal influences.
Starting point is 00:49:44 And so, like, for example, if you beat that tutorial boss you get your uranium ring, and that that doubles your attack and halves your defense so I ran that shit for a while because like you fucking give it to me yeah that's good that's good I um I but yeah the only thing is with these weapons like you are committing a lot of money and dedicating to a path and I wish I could preview them a little more because obviously you get you get to preview the three but I I picked the hammer up and then I accidentally walked one tile too high. So the game just started and I did get to try the others.
Starting point is 00:50:21 You're going to want to buy all of them because there are three levels to each weapon. Yeah. And one of those levels is being bought from the shop. Okay. If you haven't bought it from the shop, you'll discover it in the world. And then when you buy it from the shop, it'll give you an upgrade. An upgrade. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:41 Okay. So you do want that. Yeah. Cool. Also, man, you do get to a point where you make a lot of money. Like, everything in town just gets bought up like that. Healing is done in a really interesting way, right? Where you are, you've got a limited number of Vestis, so to speak,
Starting point is 00:50:57 but you can pick up gray life in the world and by fighting, you know? Like, that is a, that's a fair and fun balance on it. We're getting aggressive. It's not just like a blood-borne style recover what you've lost now. It is, you know, if you continue playing well, your next heel is worth way, way more. It's like, hey, have you, have you taken a hint? Do you want a heel right away? Too bad.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Fight until your heel is worth a shit. We're not going to get into the heel loops here. You're going to fight your shit off. Which then, which thereby means almost, I'm like, okay, so you don't need to have stronger healing items. You just need to play cleaner after you fuck up. stronger healing items and they are going to be very helpful. So this is one of those games where the road is rockiest at the start then? No, no, it gets hard as fuck.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Okay. You'll get stronger, but like the game pushes the fuck bat. Okay. Okay. Like I ran into an area that, like I ran into a very secret, very hidden area that I walked in and attempted twice, and I'm like, this is going to be impossible for a really long time. Okay. Interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:18 There was a, I did run a little experiment in my brain almost of going, like, if this game were fully side view, would the borrowing mechanic work in the same way at all? No, absolutely not. And I'm like, the tile, the fact that it's all tile-based is, it's, yeah, it seems like. It would be a, it would be a much smaller game in every way. Hmm. Yeah. I can see that. I can see that. Um, I still overall just have a preference for games that I, you know, you see yourself, that you play in side view. Um, I just, I, I overall just enjoy that more. I have stronger nostalgia for it. So that's always a preference with me, but, um, yeah. Yeah. Like, to me, this game is this year's, like, Silk Song. Like, I, I have been, like, attacking it. It is, I, I love it just as much of Silk Song. And I have a And to me I'm just like I just happen to love that perspective
Starting point is 00:53:13 That Siltsong plays in more though Yeah absolutely And this is like me with FPSs a little bit Or I'm like no no no You can do great things at all angles But I have a I have a little like Ooh I like this angle a lot
Starting point is 00:53:24 Cool yeah Mina is is excellent so far And I could see this being A million years In the same way that Chauvel Night kind of was They can just go with this thing It's sold incredibly well so far too 300,000 already.
Starting point is 00:53:40 I give it my full recommendation. It's also cheap. It's 20 bucks. Fuck, yeah. Good shit, Yacht Club. All right. What else is going on with you? What else is going on? I beat Ace Combat 5. Ace Combat 5 is fine. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Like, I ran into like every possible issue I could run into. Are they not all amazing? they're all good. I'm judging them only on the the comparison to other Ace Combats. Okay. Right? All Ace Combat games are pretty good,
Starting point is 00:54:18 except for Assault Horizon. Assault Horizon is actually just bad. Damn. And Air Combat 1 is not good, either. Ace Combat 5, it's like, it's okay. It has a lot more gimmick missions. It has no checkpoints.
Starting point is 00:54:32 It has an experience system that I don't really like. Some of the missions are really long and have no checkpoints. And probably the strangest thing that happened during my Ace Combat 5 stream is that people were like, oh man, you'd really love Ace Combat 4 and Ace Combat Zero. And then I'm
Starting point is 00:54:49 like, ah, it's just a shame. I have never played Ace Combat 4, 5, and 0, which is the Trinity of Ace Combat games. The Balkan Wars. The Belkin War, yeah. And somebody mentioned, but like, Pat, you recognize Stonehenge from 4 when you played
Starting point is 00:55:05 seven. And I'm like, what? Well, and then I'm like, wait, did, was four the one that had like the plane land on the kid's house and like the yellow 13? And people were like, oh, I did beat Ace Combat 4. I beat Ace Combat 4 when it came out. I just forgot. And my memories of four integrated into six. Weird. And I thought they were the same game.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Weird. And then once that happened, I'm like, oh yeah, no, four is way better than five. Oh, no, I went from like, yeah, no, five's got some problems to like, oh, no, actually four is much better. Are they very different from each other? So because the games have a really, like, strict structure of you fly a plane and the plane controls the way an ace combat plane controls and you fire missions after locks and the core gameplay is fairly the same. There's really only two ways to determine whether or not an Ace Combat game is really good. The storyline and how sincere it is and the individual parameters of any given mission. So Ace Combat 5 has lots and lots and lots of very gimmicky missions that require you to do very specific things, very linear things.
Starting point is 00:56:30 traditionally a lot of them have a lot more open like just destroy the targets figure it the fuck out type of missions and when I was going through five and people were like this mission's incredible I'm like I have not encountered a mission that is as cool as taking out the oil tankers in seven taking out the oil tankers in seven
Starting point is 00:56:55 is a really fucking cool mission that I don't think five has any that is better than. And fighting Stonehenge in four is incredible. Fighting the flying battleship in six is incredible. And so on and so forth. And I never
Starting point is 00:57:12 felt that way about five. Okay. At any given point. Because I'm thinking about another series that, like for example, Armored Corps, right? So, you know, I remember my old roommate just, you know, playing all through
Starting point is 00:57:28 through all of those. And... Like a sickness. And that's a series that, like, mainly shifts up the way it feels and those games are different from each other because they change how it feels to play, right? They drastically reinvent the controls in a couple times. Yeah, no, an Ace Combat plane plays like goddamn Ace Combat. Plain is plane. Plain is plane. And you hit Circle to do the missiles. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:57:51 So it comes down to, like, the mission. The rest of it, right. Yeah, okay. So, like, they all have a baseline of quality of, like, hey, it's really a ton of fun to fucking fly a plane in Ace Con. and listen to the good ass chatter. But like the story really didn't sell me in Ace Combat 5 at all. Like it wasn't as interesting as do you like the color of the sky means a lot to me, a hell of a lot.
Starting point is 00:58:11 And JPEG dog, it didn't mean as much to me as yellow 13. It didn't mean as much to me as Fly with the Angels, Mr. and Grace Maria. It didn't mean as much to me as when you fight a fucking UFO in Ace Combat 3. You fight a fucking alien in that game. It's nuts. What the fuck? Okay. Well, look forward to.
Starting point is 00:58:30 to the Wings of Thieve then. Wings of Thieve this September 24th. Plus zero. Eight. Plus zero. And zero. Zero is coming alongside it as a pre-order bonus, which is great.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Because zero's good. Zero's a good one. What else? What else? Okay. So, this is not on my show. This is on the Peach Saliva show. But Paige is finally returning to Mass Effect this week. Wow.
Starting point is 00:59:03 Page is going to be playing as Paige or Pete Shepard. I'm not sure we haven't decided yet. Directly following the Summer Games Fest over at Twitch.tv.tv slash Peach Saliva. Chrono Trigger, done? Done, done and dusted. Multiple endings? No, just the one.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Okay, okay, okay. Just the one. Okay. So if you're interested in seeing somebody who has somehow avoided nearly everything in regards to Mass Effect for like a decade.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Go down to Twitch.com TV slash each saliva this week. It'll be after SGF. It'll be after the Microsoft game show and on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:59:41 I only got... One question and it's the only question that matters. Yeah, I know what the question is going to be. Who we porkin? So I've been told
Starting point is 00:59:52 that Garris is not a done deal. Anything could happen. What? Wait, what? I've been I've been told to say that anything could happen.
Starting point is 01:00:08 You can't assume these types of things just because one of the party members is basically a bird skeleton. That's crazy. I just lost money. Yeah. That's nuts. Okay. All right. You can't assume. What if lizard man?
Starting point is 01:00:26 Wait, hold on. What if lizard guy? but lizard lizard guy is not more skeleton than that's I listen listen listen listen listen there's also a robot skeleton but you know you know what's really
Starting point is 01:00:40 you know what's fun about talking to somebody about mass fact it's just like talking to somebody about Star Trek because chat says to page oh hey yo you should you should you should try with a Krogan because they got the quads and she's like what the quads
Starting point is 01:00:57 okay and I'm like well they have four balls And she's like, how do you know they have four balls? And I'm like, it's actually a really big deal. And she goes, no, it's not. I'm like, no, it actually is a really big deal. It's a really big deal. How many testicles of Krogan has? Yes.
Starting point is 01:01:14 Okay. Okay. So I guess we'll just, you just follow that boner like a dousing rod and just see which way the wind blows. Yeah. Wait, Femmchap? Fem, of course. All right. So follow those ovaries like dowsing rods and just see which way the wind blow.
Starting point is 01:01:29 towards which direction. Oh, they're even shaped like a dousing rod. Yeah, you just grab the sides and then woo-woo-woo-woo-woo-woo-woo-woo-woo-woo. This is terrible. Anyways, that's going to be on Twitch.tv. That'll be multiple days this week. As long as they're staying out of the boring options.
Starting point is 01:01:47 As long as they stay out of the boring options. Yeah, that's right. Jacob sucks so bad. I fucking swuck. If dude, it's crazy. If that happens, you have, there's, you got to sit down and have some discussions. I'm out. Discussions need to be had if you get carthed.
Starting point is 01:02:04 That's crazy. He looks like my brother and I'm saying fucking anyway. All right. Also of note, this is just a fun little story. I was streaming Kingdom Hearts and somebody asked if I was going to get back in a warframe. I'm like, I don't know. I'm any time now. To which I said, what's the, what are you laughing about?
Starting point is 01:02:23 What are you having it? The prize. and somebody said you know when are you going to get back in a warframe I'm like I man I don't know it's intimidating to which they said something slightly rude which is you should just ask Rebecca for a sponsorship they'll give that shit away to anybody
Starting point is 01:02:43 so I reached out to one Rebecca Ford and she got back to me with a voicemail within about five minutes making fun of said dip shit on my show that's funny because Rebecca Ford over at Warframe It's hilarious as fuck That's really funny
Starting point is 01:03:03 Oh she's a good egg I like her a lot So wait Was that like no-law LaMau What do you mean Did she target the specific person? Yes she targeted their specific username
Starting point is 01:03:19 Okay okay okay All right And then she said she'd sponsor me To look at a picture of Emmett Selk For two hours Because she is obsessively FF14 pilled I don't know what that means
Starting point is 01:03:32 but sure. It's an FF14 problematic older man. Okay. You know how these girls are? Problematic fave. Oh yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Oh yeah. By the way, I don't know if you saw it, but they're adding Dante and Virgil Warframes to Warframe next. I did. Isn't it one frame that switches between the two? It's one frame that switches between the two, but when you hit their four,
Starting point is 01:03:54 they fight and the enemies get caught in the fight and take damage. That's fucking sick. Isn't that sick? That's super cool. That's pretty cool. Nice. That's super awesome.
Starting point is 01:04:10 But like Emmett Salk is a character in F of 14 that Reb is so crazy about that she made a stand-in version of that character in Warframe and then got the actor to come to Warframe to play him. Damn. This is what happens when you give our generation of degenerates power. They go, I want to have my toys kiss. I'll make my own toys and make them kiss. also the impression I've gotten
Starting point is 01:04:34 is like also if you just like hang out at a successful game long enough and do cool shit for a long time you eventually fucking steer
Starting point is 01:04:40 that goddamn thing Rebecca probably knows the most about Warframe of anybody and that's why she got that directing job
Starting point is 01:04:45 and since she has gotten that she went from voice actor to community head to director over like the 10 years and since she
Starting point is 01:04:57 has taken hold of Warframe and has been stonks have been up. Awesome. Hell yeah. She's been doing an incredible job. Has millions of registered losers
Starting point is 01:05:07 and that will never, that steak will never come off no matter how good for him gets. I am back into 2XCO in prep for my assumed inclusion on the Say Jam slam. Who shall know?
Starting point is 01:05:26 We shall see. We shall know. By the way, did you reach out to Seajam? In fact, I signed up right away. But, no, but Seajam reached out to me. So he's like, hey, if you're interested, I'm like, okay, cool. So we'll see what's up. When was that?
Starting point is 01:05:47 Some time. Was that the evening of 529? Maybe. Did something happen? Because I signed up. right away. Okay. And I was like, hey, say jam, where do I sign up?
Starting point is 01:06:05 I contact him on Discord. And he was like, here. And then he asked me if you wanted in. And I'm like, probably, but it's way funnier for me to not tell you. Well, within the first like minutes of the post going up on Twitter, I filled it out and sent it in. Yeah. So that was done already.
Starting point is 01:06:25 But either way. It is funny to go to the video that got posted like a day or two later and then a bunch of people in the comments are like, you know, like, oh, like a complete, like go get woolly, you know, all the... So I'm not in for sure. You're definitely in for sure. We'll see. You're definitely in for sure. It would be kind of funny if I wasn't, though. I would, there's...
Starting point is 01:06:53 That would be so funny, dude. There is a... There is a pretty funny. strong bit. There's a pretty strong bit. Yeah, I decided not to. No, actually. I was actually sending it to you just so you could sign up, but that doesn't guarantee
Starting point is 01:07:09 anything. Oh, man, that's super fucking funny. We'll let you know. We appreciate your interest. I'm back on to XCO. And the timing is really great because Senna is coming quite soon. And Thresh is coming. Another one of the characters that I,
Starting point is 01:07:28 laid out on a list. Everyone, everyone, everyone. But remember the list I made? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If this character doesn't get in, the game is bad. Thresh was right up there. Everyone, everyone was yelling for Thresh. I remember seeing Yard work.
Starting point is 01:07:43 I was like, yeah. So that was, that was Thresh laughing at the end, right? Yeah, it was Thresh laughing. Not the other guy. No, no, no, no. Some people are like that. People think it's Villago or dumbasses. Okay.
Starting point is 01:07:53 They both laugh like that. Yeah, but, but it's literally, you go watch the Thresh Unbound League of Legends animated short for the Unbound skin and it's like literally the same laugh. I think it might actually be... I saw an in-game clip of Thresh laughing and heard it. He usually has a lot of distortion
Starting point is 01:08:10 on his stuff, but yeah, no. And both of these characters have ties to Senna? Yes, because the Shadow Isles. Okay. And also, the timing on this is super good because I no longer want to play Street Fighter 6.
Starting point is 01:08:28 just straight up have i don't want to play it anymore oh man that i saw some people going wow i'm really turning around on ingrid like do you think if pat likes her that like it'll it'll it'll show that like you know the you know the tide has turned and i went in that thread and i was like don't you fucking worry about it so
Starting point is 01:08:51 i will say that for me the tide has turned i'm a believer I'm a believer. You're weak. No, because they did the thing that I would appreciate under all circumstances, which is give a shit, right? They put effort into it, and I like committing to the angle of, like, her being this weirdo and such. I don't want Street Fighter to have a god. Like, as a concept, I hate that regardless. But the execution of everything they're doing, I'm like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:26 You're taking this and you're going all the way with it. Her grabbing the continue button, the fucking, you know, all of it. All of that fourth wall breaking stuff is like, this is how you have fun with the concept. I'm on board. I'm super down with the fun. I hate it. I hate it so much. I hate her more than ever.
Starting point is 01:09:46 Than ever. Because in the past, it was just in her like arcade mode and when whatever. And now it's everywhere. Now it's in her moves. It's in her arcade. It's in her win quote. It's everywhere. I hate it.
Starting point is 01:10:00 So like I said, I feel from the beginning that, like, this is a weird fit of a character, but it's always also felt lazy. And it's just felt dropped in. And she had some very basic kind of twirling Shoto moves and all that shit, right? And there was just no thought or lore or anything there that made much sense to it. It was very, it was very lazy how she was dropped into Alpha 3. she was made for her game Capcom Fighting All Stars along with Rook and Didi
Starting point is 01:10:27 and once that got cancelled they just went How do we salvage this design By crowbarring it into other things right Tons of room in the dumpster But like now I feel like you're doing the thing The glow up that DJ got The glow up that every character has gotten Right they're they're doing it
Starting point is 01:10:47 They're putting the effort in and I can be 100% sold on that when I see you have a, when you have a bold vision and you commit to it, in almost any direction I'm willing to follow, except towards cousins. So this is where like our disagreement about Ingrid used to be very similar, but mine is actually much more specific. I also hate Athena in King of Fighters. Right. And I don't hate Athena.
Starting point is 01:11:16 I don't like fourth wall breaking God characters. Yeah. I fucking hate them. And also, I also don't like annoying projectile zoners in Street Fighter. I don't like JP. I actively dislike JP being in the game at all. Hate it. That shit.
Starting point is 01:11:41 I mean, look, I'm not going to say that zoners like that aren't annoying to fight by design. Gile is always Gile, of course. and she is ridiculous with those beams but she's like and she's scaled in a way too design-wise like a final DLC character almost where you can get these like if you get hit with a
Starting point is 01:12:05 two charged beams and she has enough meter I look over in the chat round over I see I see someone yell out you're wrong to hate JP and I look over and it's Kine who thinks I forget
Starting point is 01:12:22 that he plays JP because this is how JP people are they're lying pieces of shit and they try and trick you because they're scum so yeah I think so for one I like Athena right
Starting point is 01:12:36 I'm doubt like her voice in 98 has it was super annoying and that's always been the case and her the way that the voice screams at you overlapping doesn't have to be that aggressive. But I like her and the costume changes and the idea of her being, you know, like the, yeah, magical girl goddess and stuff like that. That's all fine. Fits that setting in that world. I'm also somebody to like bow, right? Which bow is super hated. But I dug him as well. So
Starting point is 01:13:06 that's all fine. In a street fighter world context, it didn't feel like it fit. And then furthermore to make it like literally the deity was just this like, oh God, not that. that the lore matters, but eh, right? Lazy insert. Now I feel like I'm seeing a broader vision for something that they want to do here.
Starting point is 01:13:29 And, yeah, fuck it. Let's see where this is going. Opening the door to other crossover worlds, whatever the case is. And the thing is, too, in terms of, like, them putting the effort in, right, with the character and the lore and all that,
Starting point is 01:13:46 because she also like wraps up world tour mode. I believe like you you hit a like finale to that whole bit of the story. I when the alternative, because JP as, you know, as much as annoying as he is, like there's a thing where I'm like with the alternative is we return to Bison the villain as the story hinges as the person the story hinges around. you heard me rant about how much I hate that already, right? The absolute refusal for time to change is just boring to me. And I fucking hate dictator existing, much less the him being. Yeah, but I like to play as dictator. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:14:31 And so this is lore versus the gameplay aspects of it. But, well, I've thought a lot about like the way you talk about that. And like, Wully, your desire to have, an instruction manual level of storyline does not trump me wanting to play like guile and bison. I get, yeah. Like, yeah, but I also just don't, um, whenever games come along that do a good job of introducing good enough characters that are new alongside some beloved classics, you could do a good job of that and not make it a, uh, a big deal.
Starting point is 01:15:03 Again, I look to MK10 and such, you know, like there's, whatever, we don't have to rehash this, this, this whole thing. But, um, if you want, even like, Nightmare Geese, as a like, whatever, he's fucking dead. He's a ghost man. Okay, cool. I don't care. Right.
Starting point is 01:15:18 I just like the idea of, like, doing something with this stupid story that is, yeah, it's like anything. It's a fighting game. Of course. And Devil May Cry has a horrible story, but we still talk about Sparta's dumb shit regardless. Like, no, but we care. Like, it's stupid, but we care. We can't do this thing.
Starting point is 01:15:36 No, no. I disagree. Okay. Like, it's not serious and it's not high drama, but it's, well-told and sincere. Fighting games don't have real stories. Moral Combat does.
Starting point is 01:15:51 Well, I just disagree in the sense that, like, I want the things, the story that it does exist, whatever it may be in the game I'm playing. I like when things are happening that are interesting with that. I like when... So you like it when you're, when at the end of Bloodsport and Van Dam's got like the fucking glass in his eyes, he's like, oh shit.
Starting point is 01:16:11 And then here comes neat. from the Matrix to magic everything away. And you're like, whoa, that's so cool. He's like a magic guy. I don't even know what you're talking about, but all this. You're talking about the story of a fighting game tournament. And you're like, it's interesting when the magic God character shows up to ruin it. I like, I like that, you know, Sean is this disciple of Ken's that came along and is a Shoto that can't quite cut it, but is an interesting new character.
Starting point is 01:16:42 I like that Yunnan Yang are these cool twins that kind of come after Lee, the original character from one. Yeah, they live in a world with a fickle god that can just erase them at their leisure. That, yeah, anyway, I like that there's these little things that happen. I like that Ed was a cool boxer that was raised by Rog and, you know, like, folks hated him initially, but I feel like everyone's turned around on him and kind of likes Ed now, you know, which is sick because Ed's cool. I like that there's a continuity to that. I like the idea of people passing the torch. I like the idea of people getting older.
Starting point is 01:17:17 I like the idea of moves changing. I like the idea of Ryu getting that Shin Shoriukin in third strike, even though he didn't have it at the beginning. This stuff's cool. It's fun. It's just fun to do the dumb things and have a cool thing with there. It's the reason why I like video games. Even if it doesn't matter, it's a cool thing, you know?
Starting point is 01:17:32 So anytime you do something that shows, even if it's as simple as like, hey, like, Ken's wearing a different outfit that implies something about him. time around. It's the same cool reason why I look and go, oh fuck, Terry changed his he doesn't wear the hat anymore and he's got the cool bomber jacket. Terry and Mark of the Wolves is a fucking sick character that like he's older. And that's why Ingrid
Starting point is 01:17:54 pisses me off because none of that shit matters in the fucking fourth wall breaking God dimension. Wow, you know, Ryu worked really hard to be able to like, you know, beat Bison and all that. It would have been really helpful if Ingrid just came out of a portal and gave him age.
Starting point is 01:18:12 and flirt it off into the space. It's fucking terrible. No, I'm not going to, I'm not going to defend. I'm not going to say I like her being the god of street fighter. I don't. That I still don't like that there even is this realm and thing to it. But the character and for what she is, a lot of what I hated about what she was is, like with DJ with the boring versus he's a lot more interesting of the character.
Starting point is 01:18:38 What Ingrid is now is I find a lot more interesting. interesting and a lot more fun. What she was, at least they worked harder to integrate that. That's cope. That's cope. They're like, I don't like this sandwich, but at least it's got lots of ingredients
Starting point is 01:18:53 and you tried really hard. Well, no, because I, but I do think it's fun that what she's doing in the game, and I think, like, you know, the... That's kind of where, like, it breaks down, where I have, like, the storyline disagreement.
Starting point is 01:19:07 I also don't want to ever play against this character even once because of the actual gameplay that is attached to her. This meme zoner in fucking street fighter, fuck off! I don't want to fucking deal with fucking beams!
Starting point is 01:19:25 Yeah, it feels like the first thing I want to go look up is how to deal with it. And thankfully, there's a handful of ways to deal with anybody that just sits back in zones at you. You take your hand and you fucking rip your Ethernet cord.
Starting point is 01:19:40 you can challenge a lot excuse me you can challenge a lot of that shit gameplay wise you know get an interface but either way all this to say the uh what was I saying yeah I in a world where they're committing to this direction
Starting point is 01:20:00 I go all right please like any any character that gets added at this point I feel they can take anyone from street Fighter and give him a glow up to make him interesting, you know? And I know that whenever people, that wasn't the case in five. Sometimes the parts of a pass would drop and you'd look at Abigail and just be like, what the fuck are we doing? I never thought that once. Right. I, well, I looked at Abigail and I'm like, I don't know why it took so long to have a character this good in Street Fighter.
Starting point is 01:20:33 It's so insane. But I feel like now I'm like looking at what they're doing here and I'm like, yeah, whatever you put in, whoever you put in, like you're going to go hard with it in the direction of what they're you know how do you turn that concept all the way to 11 and I think that's fun and good for the game you know I'm all right all right we have to we have so much to talk about
Starting point is 01:20:55 I will put a pin in this and that pin is I will rescind everything I say today if season three of Street Fighter 6 is announced and Tifa is on that roster because I will like, this is my bitter medicine to get my dessert. Yeah, that'll be some cope.
Starting point is 01:21:15 Will they steal it from Tekken? Will they steal it from Tekken? Will they steal it from Tekken? Yeah. I mean, Tekken's losing parts wholesale. We'll get to that a little bit later. What else? I'm pretty much dumb of my stuff.
Starting point is 01:21:33 My week. Okay, okay. Yeah, a world of fucking, like, El Forte, Rufus. characters like that getting a glow up couldn't you imagine you can't glow up rufus he's he's explicitly designed as a guy with no glow
Starting point is 01:21:50 i i i believe you can i absolutely believe you can i in the same way that bob is like if you just commit to the samo hungness no i like bob bob's all right rufus is disgusting if you commit to the samo hungness i think you can do something cool and forte i feel like fortay is like you have a luchador
Starting point is 01:22:10 You can do awesome shit with that. He's fine. Anyways, all right. You know who I'll... Okay, I'll tell you who cannot be saved, actually. Abel. Abel is unsalvageable. What I'm talking about?
Starting point is 01:22:24 They saved him. Oh, by just turning it into someone else completely. Yeah, he's been out now. Sure. All right, fine. Fine. Like, that's literally what happened. Okay.
Starting point is 01:22:38 In terms of design, and core of like bringing the character back and doing something, there is just no saving it. He's so, he's a yawn on site. That's why they have been on now. Replaced, yes, you can replace anybody. But anyways, all right. Uh, what, okay, so, let's, let's, let's move into other shit. Actually, hey, wait, let's take a word from our sponsors.
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Starting point is 01:29:57 Thank you, Shopify. Thanks, Shopify. All right. Okay. then there's the state of play. To tell the news first. I, yeah. In terms of the news, a couple things hit, but we'll roll through it as much as best we can.
Starting point is 01:30:19 From what I can tell here, there are about 30 things before state of play. So I'm just going to quickly bang out one. Destiny 2 is essentially dead right now. Destiny is done. I was of note Someone in my Blue Sky mentioned that it was really interesting seeing everybody
Starting point is 01:30:42 be like, oh, I'm so sad about Destiny 2 and then you go over to Pat's Blue Sky and he's just pissing all over its grave To which I say If there is no piss on Destiny 2's grave I am dead Sounds like with the post
Starting point is 01:31:00 Every End is a new beginning you're going to be able to continue to play Destiny. Oh yeah, you'll be able to play it. But in terms of new stuff happening with it, that shit's over. What was not as popularized was the follow-up story. They're planning significant layoffs
Starting point is 01:31:16 following the end of its development. And that no one who worked on Destiny 2 know about the fact that it was dead until we did. Destiny 3 is not in active production and the staff were pitching and prototyping new projects including stuff in the Destiny franchise,
Starting point is 01:31:32 but nothing got greenlit. Yes. So this is not a rotate to marathon situation. No, this is a fire everybody that's not already working on marathon. Situation. All right. What else have we got going on? They announced Yujiro Hanma is coming to Tekin.
Starting point is 01:31:54 That's crazy. That's fucking nuts. I think we're in a fucking weird universe where fighting games can. now be, like, judged on the amount of real and or fictional rapists contained within? Yep. That's nuts. Fictional, definitely a better way to go. Fictional is a better way to go.
Starting point is 01:32:18 But I will also say that with the existence of Facum Ram existing in the game, we already have muscle freaks. We do have a muscle freak. So the backy, like, art style has a perfect home with Tekken. Yeah, absolutely. Can't wait to see it. Tekken is also, though, alongside that news. One of the three directors, so Harada left earlier.
Starting point is 01:32:47 We talked about that. This week, Kohi Ikeda also left, so, aka Nakatsu. He's another of the heads of the game gone. So essentially you just have Michael Murray, the producer, and Yasuki Yasuda, the third director who remain. And who knows what the tech and future holds. But it seems like it'd be, folks are wondering if everyone that's leaving here is going to be joining the new SNK versus studio that Herodda started. doesn't doesn't
Starting point is 01:33:28 uh uh seem like an encouraging future given you know two big names no it does not it does not
Starting point is 01:33:34 uh some folks are going like you know um god damn it the uh tech and night is going to suck
Starting point is 01:33:41 and other folks are going to are like there is no tech in nine what are you talking about you know there is only tech and eight the I believe that
Starting point is 01:33:50 um the uh the second person who left was in charge of the Soul Calibur franchise prior. That's really depressing.
Starting point is 01:34:00 That is the other thing that's departing there. I mean, what I will say, and it does, and Michael Murray did tweet something to the effect of like, basically saying like the online shit that
Starting point is 01:34:17 they've been getting makes it easy to want to quit effectively. Whatever the case, is because I know a bunch of people getting blocked and it's a bad situation out there because getting in touch with people and the community talking to the devs and such. Harada used to be that place, you know, and that doesn't seem to really exist at the moment. It feels like the thing that would make the community happy would be to make a Tekken that doesn't have all the new features that plays like the way it used to with new characters.
Starting point is 01:34:52 It feels like it feels like it's a simple thing. fix whatever that time comes if they decide to go that way with it. Sounds like the children cry out for fucking Virtua Fighter. Get rid of all that stupid fighting game bullshit
Starting point is 01:35:08 and get back down to basics. Punching, kicking and guarding. That leak, my dude? What leak? What are you talking about? Holy fucking shit.
Starting point is 01:35:25 Man. That looks so good, dude. You know what the best part about that virtual fighter leak that I may or may not have seen is? Is that I recognize that as all Virtua Fighter shit. That's Virtua Fighter as fuck. The only real thing that's changed is the presentation. So one, crossroads dope, very cool. Two colors, logos, design-wise, mirroring other.
Starting point is 01:35:56 RGG design choices, interesting. There is a change that is fucking interesting, which is... When it goes black and white? Not even that. The shift towards realism, meaning we don't want juggling bodies in midair. Yeah, you're going to be like staggered and... I talked about that when they first showed off the very first thing. You're not going to be bouncing.
Starting point is 01:36:23 Yeah, things that used to launch you because Tekken and Virtual Fighter both had a thing where you'd hit the person up into the midair and then punch their body in midair and move forward. Now you're going to be in some state of, you're falling over. And combos are going to look more realistic as you're hitting them. And fuck, it looks so sick. It's primarily up,
Starting point is 01:36:43 like the core virtual fighter is great and it's very exciting. But the presentation has always been like a piece of bread, but no butter on it, not even toasted. Right? So they were like, well, you know, RGG, what if you've spiced it up a little bit? And there might be a mechanic here that mirrors that of my favorite stand, survivor, where you can see the weakness and strengths on the people and everyone's limbs.
Starting point is 01:37:12 I'm curious to know, though, like, because obviously you don't want this to be a weird thing where, you know, breaking a limb means you can't fight or something like that, right? What would make sense would be a guard break, if you're. you target an area. So I hope it'd be something like that. But nothing... Just high and low guard break. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:31 Nothing too strange, you know. All right. We got that. And also, Harada announcing that he finally made it to the Waffle House. Too late, man. Too late. You know, going back at 3 a.m. to fight time. Which it's like, okay, so are you going to commit to this bit for the next thing?
Starting point is 01:37:54 Who knows? we'll see, but we needed it in Tekken. Speaking of which, side note, based on a piece of Kunimitsu lore that dropped, they were able to piece together that Tekken 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8 all happened within one year. That's fucking stupid. There were six months between Tekin 7 and 8,
Starting point is 01:38:18 two months between 4 and 5, and 4 months for 6 and 7. All of the tech. In the Tech and Story, all of the Tech and Story since Tech and 3 took place within one year. That's brain dead. That's fucking stupid. Why would anyone have gotten over Jin's bullshit when it happened two weeks ago? Gin's World War III was less than a summer vacation.
Starting point is 01:38:44 Yeah. And Miguel's right to be fucking mad, dude. But this is the... But this is why the lore is fun. This is why the lore is fun. Wully, I don't have a problem with lore. I love fighting game lore. I have a problem with God characters.
Starting point is 01:39:02 It's very specific. So Kunimitsu discovered a hidden path in the Mishima's main estate, which burnt down one year prior. And that line basically grabs everyone to go, wait, hold on a minute. you're talking about that fire from the intro to fucking five. Yeah. So yeah. All of the tech and franchise has been happening back to back to back. Absolutely stupid.
Starting point is 01:39:36 All right. So that's that. What else is going on? Well, um, turns out that, um, hey, the co-pilot AI way more expensive than we thought. What? Microsoft is shutting down its co-pilot AI. Xbox co-pilot plans for console. They got a massive cost problem.
Starting point is 01:39:56 Using the tech is more expensive than paying human employees. Who could have seen it? Who could have thunk it? Who could have thunk it? That happened. We had a different version of that happened this morning where co-pilot switched to usage-based billing and everybody is backing out a copilot because they're blowing through all their money in a single morning.
Starting point is 01:40:17 Just like what happened with Claude. Oh, we pass the costs on to you. Yeah. And you max out your account in a day. Yeah. So it's so useful to write your emails for you. You asked the question, who could have foreseen this? Everyone. To which I answer the Pope. The Pope could have seen it. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:40:37 Because the Pope is calling for a holy crusade on AI. Very interesting development. No algorithm can make more morally acceptable. And this is the thing we're like, okay, talking about its usage in multiple It's kind of a bit of an obvious slam dunk here, but of all the dumb, shitty, stupid things you're seeing, you know, stolen artwork is very low on the rung of priorities when it's being used to pick targets to murder people by the military.
Starting point is 01:41:10 Or, for example, you live in a small town that's being annihilated by the pollution out of a data center. Of course. Now, if you're an artist, obviously your priority shift, but it's bad all the way around. But in terms of misuse of AI to corpse speed, right? Yes. Military usage of it top fastest. Yeah, that's pretty fast.
Starting point is 01:41:33 That's pretty fast and bad. Right? Poisoning everyone's water underneath that. Also not good. Not good, but not as fast. Yep. And then firing everybody and leaving them with no jobs and then fucking over the industry.
Starting point is 01:41:44 Economic disaster. Yeah, that's slower. Yeah. Yeah. So that's all very interesting. And we will keep an eye on where that goes because the Pope has taken stance on one side while Hideo Kojima stands on another. I have to say, Kojima doing like an AI video thing. Who was he with? Nicholas Winding Refin, I believe.
Starting point is 01:42:15 Sure. He was like, yeah, I love this new technology. It's so cool. and I saw my chat and my social media just flooded with like, I can't believe this. I'm so disappointed. I'm so shocked. And I'm like, I knew you'd know. I knew you'd get it.
Starting point is 01:42:31 I knew you'd get it. You are all robs. The celebrity obsessed technologist creator. This was the least surprising thing when I saw it. I was like, yeah, of course he would lean in. This is the most. Of course he would. But it.
Starting point is 01:42:49 Metal Gear Solid, too. He was so against AI. Yeah, for digital surveillance and for, and for the removal of self-expression and all this shit. But that's also just a story. And not on the principle of its usage or any of the context that we're seeing it in today. It's a, that was a story about the automation of war, ultimately, and everything that he was focusing on with that.
Starting point is 01:43:16 But also, remember, Kojima, is like one of the most extreme examples of the cool Gundam problem. Because Kojima doesn't want nukes. And, you know, he doesn't want robots doing wars. But also, man, nukes are so cool. Yeah. No, no. Like, the war is bad laser is bundled inside of the look at the cool robot shot.
Starting point is 01:43:42 You know, they're bundled together. You're getting hit with the outer core of one with one inside the middle. there's no question in my mind I'm like the idea that there's this new tech and everything's like everyone that's a true believer is pushing for into it and all this stuff yeah yeah you know it is the creator I am actually
Starting point is 01:44:02 the least surprised got in if I gotta be honest I'm shocked he didn't get in on the ground floor I'm shocked that people are shocked and I guess blown away yeah blown away and look I think and you know the fact that you I'm glad that you arrived at the exact same
Starting point is 01:44:19 I did. I'm like, I talked about this a year ago. I think it was on this show that you're all going to be shocked when Kojima gets all into AI as a fellow Kojimologist, which we are. We are, we are the world's premier cogemologists. I think we're up there. I don't know if I could take the number one, but it is, it is not shocking. What I would do. It is deeply, deeply understandable. And there's like an underneath social order thing happening here that you and I and anybody who does any kind of public
Starting point is 01:44:56 facing creativity or performance or whatever runs into, which is hey, Wally, I like your content. I think you make really good content and I like it a lot. And you know, sometimes you talk about where you stand on certain things
Starting point is 01:45:13 and so I kind of know where you're at. But sometimes you don't make a comment on where you stand on something morally. And here's where I can just project my beliefs on to you. And I'm shocked when you don't share the beliefs I told myself you have. So I think, I think people took the bait of Sons of Liberty and guns of the Patriots, right? I think the bait of AI being the villain there was a super simplified take on the way those
Starting point is 01:45:47 stories were told and ultimately concluded, oh, therefore he's going to be against it, you know, and in its current iterations, which is like that's not at all what that means. What I'm most interested in hearing, not that we'll get to, is the conversation he has about AI with, I don't know, someone like Totoro San, right? Yeah. What would Guillermo? I bet it would just be like, but it's so cool, though. What would Guillermo have to say, you know?
Starting point is 01:46:17 Because I'm sure a lot of the other folks he's working with directors and stuff. Like I could see like Peel being like, like, um, down for it or other people. But I feel like someone like Guillermo would not be. And I'm, I don't, I'd like to know. There's a, there's another Spanish filmmaker that I'm not super familiar with. Jorge, George, something. Oh, um, something in the chat help me. The artist, the artist that made the, the punky duck thing.
Starting point is 01:46:41 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He does a really, he has a really cool exaggerated style of our, work and he does like tons of really like lively guateras guacamalei style like artwork and like yeah he recently pulled out of an AI project he was working yeah so this dude is the dumbest bitch in the world for real so he had an indie creed with like a very interesting art style so he gets tapped by amazon to do an AI thing and then comes out and goes I love it it's the future so now all the people who loved his earlier work hates him including his idol in philadelphia
Starting point is 01:47:17 making Giromo D'Otooro. Yeah. So then he goes, oh shit, I'm being shamed and everyone mad at me. So he pulls out. We're going to be fucking mad at him because he was too in the fucking thing. And now Amazon's like, oh, this dude bitches out as soon as there's public pressure and he doesn't get
Starting point is 01:47:35 any money. Looking for himself. It just feels like the same thing that happened when NFTs got started, which is like, you know, a bunch of people that don't know the deal that are not talking to anybody that don't have enough people around them giving them the heads up on shit
Starting point is 01:47:55 are getting wooed in, you know, and then you sign a check and you slide it across the desk. And that's like, hey, don't look into it also. Here you go. And they go, oh, fuck, yeah, grer, let's go, you know. There's thankfully enough of the fact that it's a major, like, the fact that it's a bubble and everyone's talking about it right now is very clear and like widespread. I feel like it's, you'd have to stick your head. pretty deep into the sand to have not heard or to be aware of it. But there is always that like you, there's always, I'm willing to believe that there are artists
Starting point is 01:48:35 out there that are just, there are people out there that are just like, I, that didn't know the full deal in the sense that there are people that I'm talking to in my life, in my family, friends, et cetera, that also really don't know the deal. They hear a little bit. construction guys out there that nail their feet to the fucking house they're working on sometimes. I don't give a fuck about them. I don't want to talk to them. But I'm just that all that, all that to say that as time is going on and I'm having this conversation with more and more people out there who are like being not just like uninformed,
Starting point is 01:49:07 but misled. I know that that continues to be a thing out there. So my opinion on this is really simple. If you're going to start to freak out and try and back out of your deal with the devil before the ink is dry, maybe you shouldn't have signed it in the first place. It fucks over the goodwill. If you're going to make it deal with the devil,
Starting point is 01:49:29 and shake the devil's hand, you should understand who you're talking to. Yeah. All this to say that I think there's going to be a couple more of these situations, and with each one comes like even less
Starting point is 01:49:46 plausible deniability that you didn't know the deal. but you know like if you're going to take an AI NFT Saudi Arabia deal or whatever it should be for fuck off I'm out of here money so that you can I'm gone forever
Starting point is 01:50:01 fuck off and get out of here and you never have to give a fuck about any of this shit once you only have to sell your integrity once um speaking of fucking off and getting out of here without integrity um we got some real fun updates uh to
Starting point is 01:50:19 the Eugene Acal lore. Man. Awesome stuff. It wasn't just the funny delivery of the tale, but also everything around it, where Billy Hatcher and the giant
Starting point is 01:50:35 egg, you know, the old game, the old Sega game. Cool game. Very hard. And, oh, can you hold right now, I am required for grocery carrying as the big man of the house? Big strong.
Starting point is 01:50:53 All right. Before we continue, I went over to help with the groceries because I'm a big man. And my son looked at me and went, Dad, Dad, did you enjoy your baby game with your friends? Is it good? And I was like, no, I'm doing my dad show. He's like, did you like your baby game? What wires are getting crossed here? So when I play FF14, Paige will be like, oh, you're playing your baby game, honey?
Starting point is 01:51:20 I go yes, honey. And so now he's like, you play your baby game with your friends in the office. I'm like, no, I'm doing my dad show. It's different. This might not be a bad thing, you know? You might want to lean into that. Let's see how that works. 2XCO is the kitty cat game because of Timo.
Starting point is 01:51:44 Yes, yes. FF14 is the baby game. And Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 is, Henry Ride the Horsesie game. Henry Ride the Horsi. True, true, true. Yeah. All right, so back to Big Cox.
Starting point is 01:51:56 Yeah, back to Big Cox. Yeah. Happy pride, everyone. So Eugene Aka, the creator, basically we got some T being spilled because the former Sega VP, what was his name?
Starting point is 01:52:12 Fisher. No longer works for Sega. Mike Fisher did an interview, and he was basically just like, yo, I'm a spill some tea. Working with Eugene Naka sucked. That dude sucked. And if you remember Billy Hatcher...
Starting point is 01:52:30 The worst person I've ever worked with in this business. If you remember Billy Hatcher and the giant egg, everyone loved it and Eugene Haca hated the name, didn't want a game to be focused on an egg, and basically tried to push and pitch since Billy Hatcher's dress. as a rooster for the name of the game to be giant cock. Dead not not like, ha ha, but like actually. Dead serious. Dead serious as a pun name for the game. It was a real. And then as a chaser, he's like also Eugenaka's like a miserable asshole.
Starting point is 01:53:08 Yeah. So he's like, he's like, this was a real suggestion. There are witnesses that were there. And like Naka then got frustrated that the team did not want to name the game giant cock um and then basically was like yeah he's literally the most miserable man
Starting point is 01:53:26 I've ever worked with in games or anything else in my life just a horrible human being and you can quote me on that as you know he's also now a convicted felon so you know so he just he's like yeah I can talk shit that motherfucker's locked up you know um yeah anyway that's crazy that's crazy
Starting point is 01:53:48 All right. We talked about it a little bit, but Sena was revealed in 2XCO. She looks cool. She looks great. It's cool. That's dropping next week on the night. Alongside the Seajam Slam.
Starting point is 01:54:05 Wow. Enforced a new character? We'll see. No. It is pretty... With beginners in a stance character? No. I like the...
Starting point is 01:54:17 said this already, but big gun character that's, I guess, like, zoner, you know, traditionally in League of Legends is not being played as a big gun girl zoner since you just got two of those, you know, so she's getting up in your face. No, her big gun acts as like a big normal. Yeah, it's a big, it acts as a big sword. That hits you point blank, basically. Yeah. Cool. We also got a couple of updates. So, surprising.
Starting point is 01:54:47 Nobody. Spellcaster Chronicles. Do you remember? Do you remember which one that is? I'm the only person most people have ever seen talk about the game. I was hoping you'd forget. No. I remember it vividly as the game I tried the open beta and went, I cannot get a match.
Starting point is 01:55:04 And I had no, I had so little chance of getting a match that the game crashed. Well, you will never get a match because the servers are shutting down on June 19th. So I checked out the game's population after launch out of curiosity, and it was an infeasibly small amount, like can't populate matches amount of people. Yeah. So they're going to be refunding anyone who spent money on it. So that's nice. On request instead of automatically. On request.
Starting point is 01:55:41 That is true. Quantic dream. Very different. Very different. Hey, hey, public service announcement, if you are hearing my voice and you've bought anything in Spellcasters Chronicles, and I know you have, please go in and put in a request for a refund and you'll get your money back. That was supposed to pay, that was supposed to raise funding for Star Wars Eclipse. Interesting. That's great.
Starting point is 01:56:12 Interesting that. Anyway, onward to fucking whatever's happening. in the old republic. Nothing? We also got Embracer Groof is spinning off their IPs that are
Starting point is 01:56:36 Darksiders, Dead Island, Kingdom Come Deliverance, Metro Remnant, the Hobbit, Lord of the Rings, Tomb Raider, and more into a new company called Fellowship Entertainment. Cool. Yeah, it, you can You can repackage it.
Starting point is 01:56:52 You mean the things that actually make the money that they're putting into its own company so they can jettison the rest? I mean, again, you can slice it up and repackage it as you need to, but the stinky poo-poo will continue to follow. Let's just move this money around until somebody gets tired of following it. Until nobody can recognize the logo of the company that comes up when one of them starts. So, also there's news on the kingdom come deliverance. front. Warhammer. No, what are they called? Warhorse. Is that the name of the company that makes Kingdom
Starting point is 01:57:27 Come Deliverance? I think it's War Horse. They're going to be making another kingdom come deliverance. Shocker. They're also going to be making a Lord of the Rings game in the style of Kingdom Come Deliverance. Which is very interesting. And to which you say, isn't that the one with the CEO
Starting point is 01:57:49 who's like a particularly loud, stupid asshole? Well, he's been promoted to working on the movie away from the game's development. Okay. So, peasant simulator in Middle Earth. Yes.
Starting point is 01:58:11 Interesting. They'll probably be a little bit less peasant. A little more Lord of the Rings. Speaking of, fantasy worlds this is just a fucking wild left field one but board game geek
Starting point is 01:58:29 is firing a marketing manager due to rejection of a marketing campaign because of first-hand experiences with demonic possession
Starting point is 01:58:47 cool so basically there was a board game called Possess Me Satan that they were going to be publishing and the marketing campaign pitch was received by the advertising manager however the advertising manager said
Starting point is 01:59:11 the thought of displaying this subject matter makes me sick to my stomach as somebody who has dealt with demonic possession and was talked about how they were sitting on this one and praying about what to do in this instance and adding as a follower of Jesus, I routinely help people suffering from demonic oppression and possession. So it's devastating to me as this does damage to people's lives. So they rejected the marketing campaign for this game called Possess Me Satan.
Starting point is 01:59:45 Okay. To which the company went, what the fuck are you doing? You asshole, you're fired. Are you out of your mind? Listen, I'm going to say something controversial. Okay. I'm going to be, I'm going to say something controversial. Hit me.
Starting point is 02:00:02 You're more than welcome to be mentally ill at home. But you need to leave the really, the really disruptive stuff at home when you come to work. Well, it's, it's really simple. I mean, I don't. I'm a special case, but, you know. Well, because you're, you're getting paid. for your illness. That's the job.
Starting point is 02:00:21 But the job is to be mentally ill. Yes. Your illness makes the big bucks. Yes. That's the only way it works. That's the only way it works. Now look, like, again, you can feel. I have a system, okay?
Starting point is 02:00:34 You can feel how you ever, how you want to feel and no one can stop you from that. And nor should they, because your beliefs are your beliefs. The idea that you're working your job that requires something of you, that you get your, part of your job is to market the things. that your company's putting out and you're like, nah, though, because of this, it's like, no, this is where you recuse yourself from the project and go, I don't want to work on this because I have my own personal issues with it. And that's totally acceptable and fine. I would, this would not be a story worth bringing up at all if the person in question said,
Starting point is 02:01:15 yeah, this makes me uncomfortable. I'm not going to do it. Because as somebody who was like, literally obeying the Sabbath while working late into those college years and doing some jobs that required Friday night stuff and whatever. I was like, yeah, this doesn't work for me. I had to leave whatever, right? And you also had experiences with demonic possession. On occasion. On occasion.
Starting point is 02:01:41 On occasion. So, no, it's totally, honestly, it's totally, if the person were to just go, Yeah, this is not comfortable. I'm stepping away from this. No issue. But instead, you're going, no, and I refuse while continuing to do this job, but fuck this project. Too bad. I'm sorry because of my internal dilemma here.
Starting point is 02:02:05 That's absolutely insane. Under either religious exemption or handicap accessibility exemptions for employment acts in most countries, part of the process is your sincerely held religious or otherwise belief and or handicap an impediment to the normal functioning of your duties in this profession. And you should say yes if your understanding of demonic possession doesn't allow you to advertise for a board game. Mom, why did you apply to work at ID software if you didn't want to work on devil games? I don't know Like mom There was a really decent chance
Starting point is 02:02:51 Me to a gay steel meal energy There was a really decent chance That Devil Games was going to be part of the gig here Why did you apply Like listen You have a problem with the devil And you work in marketing sir I have bad news for you
Starting point is 02:03:11 I mean you are allowed to tell the people making the game that they don't know what they mess in with. However, you cannot stop that product from existing and shut it down or sabotage it. You don't get to do that. Yeah, so they got
Starting point is 02:03:30 fired. Yeah, well, so. And best of luck to them in their future endeavors. I hope that that moral clarity and compass, you know, will perhaps, I hope they'll get a better understanding of when and how to apply that. Anyways, did you watch or hear about, did you keep up with the steroid Olympics?
Starting point is 02:03:57 I did. Oh, good. Because, you know, that thing you want, it happened. Wasn't enough. So, did you take note of how many records were broken? I don't believe any were broken, and most of the winners were actually natural athletes. So there was one. Every sport, there was no performance that broke any records set by non-juiced-up athletes, except for swimming, where there was one record that was broken, but also because they were using a full body suit that was also banned from competition.
Starting point is 02:04:42 That provided an unfair advantage. So here's my problem. Okay. And I want the mutant Olympics, right? I don't want mid-tier all-state athletes who couldn't get to the Olympics to juice up to barely make it to the level of ability
Starting point is 02:05:07 that they could place at the Olympics maybe. All right. Pat-bit translation. Pat-bit translation. I want the winners of the Olympics to be, experimented on like barnyard animals and turned into mutants. There were no bodies. No one's heart exploded mid-sprint.
Starting point is 02:05:31 Thus, the experiment was a failure. Like, I don't want to hear that the fastest guy at your high school took some steroids and did okay on track. I want to see a guy with four legs on the field. Translation. Pat wants to see absolute Bain pouring himself. League football, dog. That's what I want. Like I said. Do you remember Mutant League? Like I said.
Starting point is 02:05:56 Bones Jackson? Like I said, absolute Bain pouring himself over the track. This is correct. I am saying one of the same thing. I want the announcers at the event to have an argument as to whether or not the guy on the fucking field counts as a centaur. Yeah. So what you're going to do. going to get is people who've gotten kicked out of their sports going for a one more once.
Starting point is 02:06:21 Because why would anyone who's actually good risk the damage to their long-term health or reputation or ability to qualify for the Olympics by performing in this shit? Pretty much everyone was just hitting testosterone and HGH. That's basically what
Starting point is 02:06:39 it turned into. A couple people hit some Adderall, but that was, it was pretty, much just T and HGH. That's all you got going. Like, you know, do you know Rocky 4 where they have the fucking super cut of Drago, like juicing up and working out? No, but sure.
Starting point is 02:06:58 You've got a team of scientists? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not enough. I want twice that minimum. Well, I'm sorry that you're not. A bobo. I want a bobo. I know you do, but I'm sorry that you're not going to get it.
Starting point is 02:07:12 And quite frankly, I feel... Not yet. I'm not. I feel like you are moving the goalposts with tentacles and vainy brooded out arms. No, I always say Mutant League football. I always say Mutant League. Those goalposts are sliding away from us into the horizon with eight legs. You know what?
Starting point is 02:07:33 Somebody mentioned it in chat. Fuck it. Just teach chimpanzees how to play lacrosse and juice them. It's, it's a, we can skip some steps. Okay. Just jump right to the animals then. you see now I have a problem with that though but no no but now the but now you're fucking
Starting point is 02:07:51 with creatures that don't deserve it right no the human being that swat their brains no no we tried that it didn't work no we tried that it didn't try again no we saw you can go watch the footage of the head swapped chimpanzee it's not it's not great that was a long time ago okay no I you see you're losing me because you need to put this on the people
Starting point is 02:08:13 who have signed up for it and earned it and deserved it. Not the random animal that's fucking just chilling. That, you know, not, you know, the chimp, the chimp deserves a happy life. The person who wants to be bained out gets to be bained out. Work on a way to give apes super intelligence. Get Caesar going. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 02:08:38 Yeah, let's just get Planet of the Apes and then we can watch the ape games. Yeah. Didn't seem like a big hit. We'll see what happens next time around. But there you go. Enhanced games. We're in that world now. All right.
Starting point is 02:09:01 That's pretty much it. Nintendo released a Star Fox overview trailer, but whatever. Sure. He gives a shit. State of Play. Wolverine, that shit is not Spider-Man. You know what? I'm going to skip part of the discussion about State of Play.
Starting point is 02:09:16 And I'm going to go straight to the picture I sent you. Do you see the picture? sure that's sitting in Discord right now. September 3rd, Blood of the Dawn Walker, September 8th, Halloween the game, 9th, Phantom Blade Zero, 15th, Wolverine, 17th, Trails in the Sky, 22nd,
Starting point is 02:09:36 Dune Awakening, 24th, Control Resident, 24th, Silent Hill Townfall, 25th, Onimusha, October 1st, Rayman, October 1st, Dynasty Warriors, October 2nd, Ace Combat. That's fucking awesome. That's so fucked up.
Starting point is 02:09:50 That rules. That's great. They are all just slamming themselves into each other to die, dude. And when was Grand Theft Auto again? November. Okay. Is this what a car pile up looks like? Oh, dude, this is the worst.
Starting point is 02:10:09 In avoidance of November. Ever. Yeah. Is this a fucking traffic jam? It is. It's absolutely unbelievable. Every single week. Every single day.
Starting point is 02:10:21 Some of them have two games. on one day. Yeah, uh, yeah, uh, pick your poison. I mean,
Starting point is 02:10:29 look. September 24th is going to be rough at the pet household dog. Yeah. Because if they put, if they spread it out a little differently, but it's like control resident
Starting point is 02:10:39 and townfall are both on the same day. Those are both my thing. That's false. In any case, though, um, I feel like Wolverines
Starting point is 02:10:52 main thing is establishing how much you're not playing Spider-Man by going super above and beyond with the gore? Yeah, just absolutely absurd with the violence. Well, I'm kind of like, will there ever, was there any non-gory gameplay? Like, is there anything? They actually said that, um, they said that for people who are squeamish, they'll be non-gory routes, whatever that means. Okay. Yeah, it just, I, you, after, you just don't see it after a while.
Starting point is 02:11:22 so much of it. I think you got to use it to like sting, you know? But I mean, I guess it's like, it's adamantium clause. Like, what do you expect, I suppose? But, you know, um, anyway. Did you watch that gameplay trailer? Yeah. Yeah. So the dude, that game play trailer. Threw me for a fucking loop. That part on the highway, that is the trans Canada highway that me and Paige drove out to BC on. Oh. And that was. That was taking place in Canada. Okay. Yeah, that was like the exact road.
Starting point is 02:11:59 I mean, of course. That makes sense. It's Wolverine, plus you're going to fight fucking Sabretooth and all that. Like me and my wife almost fell off a cliff during that gameplay sequence. Nice. I hope this means we get to see Puck and Sasquatch and Alpha Flight. I'm down for realistic Alpha Flight. Anyway.
Starting point is 02:12:20 Realistic. voice is a little odd but we're just too conditioned at this point to Steve um or or um fucking uh what's his name i i i i i i you yeah so it's different but you know we'll give it a chance in the meantime toke on uh that doctor doom team that's pretty sick that is that is a winning team right that is a fucking sick team that is a sick team That is a sick team, bro. When they were like, oh, Doom and his subordinates, I was not expecting slot two to be fucking Magneto.
Starting point is 02:12:57 Slot three. I was not expecting Green Goblin. And then slot four is carnage. That is a fucking team. Holy shit. That's a winning team, man. Wow. That is like, oh, boy.
Starting point is 02:13:10 Goblin never been in any of these two. So that's a fun pick. I'm glad they went with something interesting there. Super cool, dude. Because Goblin is one of those, like, like, super important key Spider-Man villains, but also not the go-to when it comes to, like, gameplay time. Because it's just a fucking dude with bombs on a board, you know what I mean? Like, so. Yeah, but he's, he's an asshole.
Starting point is 02:13:35 Yeah. So how do you translate that into interesting game? How do you're just stupid asshole? That's it. So how do you translate that into interesting gameplay? You know, we'll find out. But no one's ever done it. no someone has salty bet did it i don't remember there's a famous clip of uh spider man versus green goblin
Starting point is 02:13:57 where spidey goes into spider sense and goblin throws like a million bombs at him and they all miss and it's fucking awesome hmm seems like you know throw the bomb separate from the board and you have a little puppet character doing stuff almost so that's cool and finally carnage is there i can't believe we've never gotten a carnage before. So that's dope. I'm so happy that it's carnage instead of fucking instead of goddamn venom.
Starting point is 02:14:21 Yeah, I mean, at this point, it's overdue. It's just long overdue. So that's a great team. Super sick there. Then we saw the new Rayman. Which is actually the old Rayman. Remake.
Starting point is 02:14:37 Bancho the Chef. It said that's a prequel? It's a prequel to Dave the Diver. Is it Dave the Diver? Is that the guy in Dave the Diver? that that's doing your okay okay I yeah
Starting point is 02:14:46 it wasn't 100% um Camuri the I Kimu Ikumi Nakamura project looks pretty cool so I thought it looked cool and then someone
Starting point is 02:14:56 of my chat said it was live service and then all my shit deflated and then I was like wait no it's not and then it went back up it's three
Starting point is 02:15:03 it's three player co-op I didn't see a live service thing there yeah I don't think she said that no she did not no I got I got
Starting point is 02:15:12 I had my expectations toyed with. And, yeah, it's also funny that she's like, hey, that little thing I did, the gesture is now my signature. So, me, ta-da, like, that's her whole bit. Style, you know, urban, cool, Japanese running up a building, equipping the demons as clothing and fighting with that. Dope. Sounds cool. Looks cool. Visual and audio, like, audiovisuals, excellent, super cool. I do have to say that like it made me think of when I was watching like the clothing and like the demons kind of talking and shit while you were using them.
Starting point is 02:15:49 I was kind of like, oh, I do wish a little of that happened and devil may cry, you know? I wish that like the personality of the demons you were wielding came out more since they're not just weapons. That would be fun. Besides Agni and Rudra. All right. Tomb Raider, whatever. another remake of an old game. Immediately. It's getting to be a lot.
Starting point is 02:16:18 And then right into another girl running from dinosaurs trailer, Lost Wild. So that was interesting, but there's a bit where she bottles a fucking Velociraptor. Like she glasses a Velociraptor with like a beer bottle. And for some reason, like seeing that, I'm like, all right, yeah. The idea of like, piss off Phylloster Fylafter
Starting point is 02:16:42 Oh yeah fucking with the dinosaurs A lady fighting dinosaurs is always a recipe for a good
Starting point is 02:16:50 game Yeah Phatomblade Zero Protect the baby Yeah Still very little of that
Starting point is 02:17:00 game shown Yeah they're keeping it close to the chest But they're doing these like set piece reveals
Starting point is 02:17:06 essentially Dude Awakening Dynasty Warriors to rest for the wicked. Onimusha, way of the sword, which I will be playing tomorrow. Hashtag sponsored on the channel.
Starting point is 02:17:19 Oh my God, really? So that's happening. There's a demo tomorrow. There is. I probably also be playing that demo tomorrow. Well, there you go. Also, besides, so I only know Oni Musha one
Starting point is 02:17:34 and then I know Dawn of Dream Soki. So there's a big gap in the two, three. It seems pretty clear to me. So I'm much more familiar with Lona Musha. It seems pretty clear that this is like, don't worry about it. Right. You got to kill the demons. You're good.
Starting point is 02:17:50 And it seems like it's like you're not using the demon power. You're using human ghost power. Well, I mean, for a bit. But what I am familiar with and interested in is Miyamoto Musashi, you know, the journey of Shin Men Tekezo. And your rival taken out society. Koujuro. So Koujuro looks exactly the way he ought to.
Starting point is 02:18:15 I'm glad that like they didn't. Because Musashi, you see a couple of different versions of him depicted in different mediums, but ultimately they get it right with the like, you get the ponytail, you get the wild kind of like unkempt facial hair. Maybe a mustache, maybe not, you know?
Starting point is 02:18:31 And then simple robes and the two-sort stands. No, fucking make him look like Scarjo. But Kogiro, like, it looks like got the right take on it, which is the kind of foppish dude with the long hair. And I'm like, that's that vagabond juice on it. I'm happy with the design on that. So we'll see where they go with Gan Riu. Oh, I also forgot to announce on this show that I'm doing all the shows this week.
Starting point is 02:18:58 We didn't talk about our following weeks. We did not. We forgot to talk about the schedule. This week I'm covering Summer Games Fest. Page is going to be doing Mass Effect after Summer Games Fest. I'm also covering the Microsoft show Page is going to be doing Mass Effect after the Microsoft show.
Starting point is 02:19:12 Tomorrow was going to be mean of the hollower but I'm probably going to play that on a musha demo and a sponsored look at 007 First Light. Yeah. Over at twitch.com slash Pat Stairs at and YouTube.com slash live Pat Stairs. You know what the fucking website is. Hearing, hearing good things about that.
Starting point is 02:19:31 It is interesting because I was also hearing about like price and cost of development because like I.O. making a James Bond game is a pretty good fit. However, that shit was like super expensive, apparently. Okay, townfall still looks interesting. Very curious there. It's funny because the opening seconds of that, you saw like a monster and then you heard a dude like kind of like hyperventilating. And I was like, that is hyperventilating in a black voice. Oh yeah. I was able to hear that and I'm like, this is townfall. So it's really interesting because Silent Hill F and F is for women does not, in fact, have any radio at all.
Starting point is 02:20:20 Meanwhile, we go to Townfall and it's like, do you want radio mechanics? The whole plot appears to be about the radio. Yeah. Very interesting. Glad that they had like a different idea on that. We talked about AC8 and AC0. So is AC Zero just a like remaster or like? It is a remaster of a PlayStation 2 game.
Starting point is 02:20:46 Okay. Okay. And it's, it's, so you know about this in the other games? Like, I don't, I've never played zero, but zero is the story of the war with the Belkons that led to them nuking their own country. Huh. They start a war and it goes badly and they'll, like, like, fuck you, you didn't win.
Starting point is 02:21:08 Say they blow themselves up with seven nukes. Wow. Okay. And so shit pops off in zero for sure. Okay. I was just, I saw the subtitle and I'm like, really? You're changing one letter? Like,
Starting point is 02:21:26 uh, anyway. Stuntman Hollywood. Dude. I fucking love stuntman. Yeah. Seeing, seeing that was well done. You see a Knight Rider, a DeLorean, Mad Max. Like, they, that was a pretty fucking cool thing of just like all these legendary Hollywood cars.
Starting point is 02:21:49 And then you're just like, oh shit, it's stuntman. Stuntman's so good, dude. Yeah, yeah. It just tickles that. Got to do it perfect. Got to get three stars part of your brain. Death race. No dukes a hazard.
Starting point is 02:22:04 That's, that's, that's, that's, no. No Duke's a hazard car. Hmm. Curious. Maybe that's DLC. Ill. A game that
Starting point is 02:22:21 got shown before it's where the gif of the guy kicking the baby into the other babies comes from. Okay, I haven't seen that. Looks cool. So this appears to be a What if the intro to the Phantom Pain
Starting point is 02:22:35 just kept going? And it was the thing. Yes, also the thing. The, I'm like, I don't know. It's, it's probably unfair to say this, but waking up in a hospital that's under attack, I'm like, yeah, MGS just took that.
Starting point is 02:22:55 That locks in. By the way, it brings you back to that. Before we get too far away, Ace Combat 8 looks so sick, though, dude. Wings of Thavre. It looks so good. Looks like some cool wings. a, look like some cool...
Starting point is 02:23:09 Very cool planes. Very dramatic planes. And some outside of the plane action. Yeah. People getting put at gunpoint and... Hanging out on a fucking aircraft carrier. Fucking cool shit. Control Residence.
Starting point is 02:23:28 The Super Deluxe edition of AC8 is already sold out. Fuck yeah, dude. Control Resonance Combat. Continues to look pretty sick. what a normal looking dude what a random Joe ass main character yeah bro he had no character at all
Starting point is 02:23:46 and to the point where I met him in a different game and was like I don't know who this character is it's like literally all he did was grow hair because he's just like a nothing like that character design is very anti-protagonist in choice typically but the game looks fucking sick man
Starting point is 02:24:04 so you know the control is linked to Alan Wake, right? Of course, yeah. So Jesse and her brother Dylan are highly suspicious characters whose backstories don't extend far enough in either direction because their names are Jesse Dylan Faden and Dylan Jesse Faden. What? And the fact that they are named in that way and they don't have enough detail about themselves and one of them is more interesting than the other is suspicious in that universe. Weird. Okay. Wait. Okay. So that dude is control lady's brother?
Starting point is 02:24:42 Yes. Oh. Huh. Why is he not a redhead? Okay. Hey, I need to bail for two seconds. Give me five. Beer beat.
Starting point is 02:25:03 All right. Where were we? So, yeah. Oh, we're talking about control. Um They showed off some more marathon stuff RuneScape Dragon Wilds SciOps the Mindgate conspiracy Guitar Ruh man
Starting point is 02:25:21 Dude Cyops the fucking MindGate Conspiracy! I mean it's not back but it's just You know it's a port so That's cool Don of Dreams also And then hey Until Dawn 2 proper
Starting point is 02:25:36 So actually I was like Like, is that Neil? Is that Neil Newborn? And then I'm like, please don't be doing an American accent. Please. And sure enough, here comes Neil Newbond's god awful American accent, which he has done interviews being like, my American accent is really bad.
Starting point is 02:25:57 I don't know why people ask me to do it. But yeah. And then I'm like, oh, man. But then they said until dawn too. And I'm like, yeah, American accent, Neil Newbond. That's perfect. Considering the updates you've been giving on the dark pictures. So this game is not made by Supermassive.
Starting point is 02:26:16 Right. So I noticed that. And they said that like, oh, they said the name of the developer. And I was like, that is a different developer. It sure is, buddy. So what happened? What happened there? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:26:30 The license, the name, the team. I guess Sony kept it. I guess Sony kept it. Interesting. But I don't know what that means for who's working on it, but if this is... Well, actually, Supermassive's not been doing super good, as you can tell. Well, that's what I was saying. Exactly. That's essentially where I was going, is like, that sounds like it's been on an overall downhill ride, not completely downhill, but on average downhill.
Starting point is 02:26:57 But still going also. So they're clearly making money off of these small releases. enough. But yeah, just enough. Proper big until dawn two, which appears to be taking place mostly during the daytime. Awesome. We'll see what's going on there.
Starting point is 02:27:17 And then a big old preview of God of War La Fay. Or God of War, my wife. God of War mom. God of War mom. It was so weird, dude. We're watching it.
Starting point is 02:27:33 And Paige's like, why does that look just like me? And then like the fucking... You found so? Yeah? The, well, the mustard yellow outfit also helped. There's a lot of... And the purple butterfly that's the lupus symbol that lands on her in the beginning.
Starting point is 02:27:49 There are many... There are oftentimes where a page-coded character shows up in a video game and it's like, oh shit, there she is. Like at the beginning, like she does a double jump, and I've seen her do that in the house. Okay. Well, I... The facial features. were so distinct that I just didn't see it. But that being said, um, interesting choice with, I know
Starting point is 02:28:10 the discussion for a while was like, oh, where are we going in terms of which, um, God, Pantheon, you know, what culture, uh, the answer appears to be all of them. A bunch of them. A bunch of them. So you walk past some Asian demons and hang out with some Mesoamerican demons. And it's all happening in one space together. So that'll do. That trailer was really, sorry, that preview was cut together excellently because the first enemies that Faye encounters are a bunch of mandrakes.
Starting point is 02:28:45 You're like, mandrakes? Oh, so this is like Celtic? Right? Oh, okay, because Mimir is Celtic, right? So, all right. And then she comes out the fucking, the fucking cliff, and there's a fucking gigantic thousand foot tall statue of the the fucking red ony and a bunch of Chinese robot soldiers and then sec met fucking shows and you're like oh we're just doing it all and the smart thing about this approach is that for all the it's almost like assassin's street trying to guess where you're going to go next but instead of you having
Starting point is 02:29:16 one place that cretos has to commit to for a while like norse mythology here you can get out all the stuff that you know can be visited at glances for one stage or a few you know a couple hours in each different mythology interpreting it in an interesting way is a pretty fun way to play through a game like that, you know, getting the different interpretations and takes artistically on it. Just a big old melange and then, well, we got Frank the Cube and Faye's new Chinese myth dragon sword. Because I don't know if Cratos fighting a bunch of Chinese myth dragons for three games was on the menu per se. Just a one or two Chinese myth dragons. Just a couple of them, just a couple.
Starting point is 02:29:58 So yeah, that works. That's cool. And surprisingly, I was kind of going into this going like, all right, so whatever I see, I know that I didn't keep up. So I fully expect to just be hit with shit I don't understand. And actually, nothing there was like pretty, was too bad all things considered having not played the second game. I think the, I think the very obvious. I think the very obvious like midgame shock for that game.
Starting point is 02:30:34 The character. We'll be, no, we'll be, oh, I miss my husband, Kratos, and like 20 guys go, what? And like Zeus or somebody else from the Greek Pantheon waltzes out and goes, what? That could be.
Starting point is 02:30:53 Right? Because if this is the, If this is the home of dead gods, then you will run into a whole bunch of dead gods. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, there should be a solid half of that land that is dedicated to. Fuck Cratos. Like, Aries should be there, and he should have been there for a while.
Starting point is 02:31:12 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That could be interesting, actually. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. All you got to do is make him look different and have him not give his classic Aries name, have him be Mars. And have him become buddy buddy with Faye for 80% of the game before the Zhu drops.
Starting point is 02:31:34 But it's, I don't know about the second about Ragnarok, but like, I feel like the character, besides Cratos who like jumped over and became this other calm, more realistic person, it feels like he left behind a bunch of animaniacs ass wacky god characters. He absolutely did. And so seeing those people make a jump into something more grounded, it would be really odd. Because Aries and all of them, they're all fucking yako-wacko and dog. Yeah, the Greek gods are dramatic as shit. They're clowns. They invented drama. With the burning hair and the just, yeah, I'd be curious to see, you know, if they're going to like tone the designs down in any way or just like keep it 100.
Starting point is 02:32:21 Let's talk about fucking Frank the cube, man. That's a cube. That's a fucking gelatinous cube, dog. And you know what? That's your Atreus replacement. You know why? You can bounce and do combos off of it. Wully?
Starting point is 02:32:38 Did you ever play God of War? The new ones? Yeah, well, not Ragnarok. But, like, you played 2007? Well, I was there for the... Yeah, but did you play it? hands on the controller No, no, no.
Starting point is 02:32:53 Do you remember what the boy button is? It's square? It's square. So there's your cube. There's your cube. Hit square for cube. Cool. And I'm guessing the sword deal
Starting point is 02:33:11 is like this is the sword that kills you for real, real, real. Yeah, no, it's going to be the Chinese myth sword of killing the gods for real or whatever. So, you know, there you It is. All right. And that was pretty much it. That was pretty much it. We're all caught up.
Starting point is 02:33:30 Okay. Let's take some letters. Hey, if you want to send in the letter. You send it to Castle Super Beastmail at gmail.com. Castle Super. Fuck it. Here's one. Dear Castle Superdads
Starting point is 02:33:48 at Dadmail. that's me. I love being a dad. It's good stuff. Short and sweet. Is Batman a superhero? The topic came up at work yesterday and the majority voted no because his power is money. That was my first thought initially, but the more I thought about it, the more I disagreed. If Batman's not a superhero, that means the hero equipment-based powers heroes like Iron Man, Black Panther, Green Lantern, etc. All come into question. The general thought I landed on is that the magnitude of the feats and threats dealt with or what determines superhero status.
Starting point is 02:34:23 That's correct, yes. Yeah, no, I feel like that stupid. It's not the power set. It's their extraordinary, extraordinarily ness. Also, who cares? Is actually the real answer. Yeah, no, this is the superhero was such a weird dumb label. You fucking dorks. It's a weird
Starting point is 02:34:39 dumb label to even bother with, to be honest. Let me get all of these fucking nerds over here arguing about Batman. Is it a character with a story worth telling? Okay, cool. Like, that's fine. Um, yeah. All right, and then we'll take one more over here.
Starting point is 02:34:57 JC says, hello, Starwool and Pat Nohade. Going back to the Star Fox, re-re-re-re-remake redesign online discussion, what other redesigns and games or media do you hate with a passion, whether because of the actual design or the impact, exclude the low-hanging fruit of Devil May Cry DMC. Mine is Harley Quinn's sexy redesign in Arkham Asylum,
Starting point is 02:35:18 not because I think it's bad, it's quite good in fact, but because of the impact it had. Prior to that game, her primary design was the red and black card look, but now her main design after that game is always some form of sexy Quinn, which varying degrees of hitting the target. A hundred percent. I liked the goofy jester design of her. This is why he picked this question, by the way.
Starting point is 02:35:42 Well, I agree with this. I think that it sucks that that gets replaced every time. Do you... I think it's fine. okay sure I don't feel strongly one way or the other pig tails right yeah that's it no sure fine um but I'm not gonna sit here and be like any look without sex appeal is better than a look with sex but that's not what that's but that's not what what I'm saying or what's being said there I think it's just like one design completely replaced the other forever
Starting point is 02:36:16 and it's like oh that's way more popular that's yeah that's just a bummer that like the the other design is like, and it's almost never seen again, you know, with a few exceptions. I think it translates like shit to 3D. I think that's the main problem. There's that. But also, is it like, I feel like, you know, you kind of, was it Never Winter Nights that hit it for, or am I thinking? Not Never Winter Nights. The other game.
Starting point is 02:36:40 Vampire the Masquerade. Dig it about Jeanette. Give me a second. Yeah, Masquerade. Vampire the Masquerade. That's it. Yeah. I feel like that was like the full-on, let's take your homework lesson that they took to Harley Quinn and went like, this is Harley Quinn for me.
Starting point is 02:37:06 I don't know. That was a look of the time. Like, that's not that outlandish. Anyway, that's my answer. Nidhog, the whole fucking game. The whole fucking game. did he make anything after nit hog too? I don't care.
Starting point is 02:37:38 Because I don't want to believe, like, did that derail everything? It might have. I need to know. Hold on. Mesh off games. Did the whole thing just go off the rails after that? It might have. All right.
Starting point is 02:37:58 We got Meshawth. Well, that's a publisher, it looks like. Nidhog, too. Wheel World. Wheel World. Okay, no, there was some other stuff. Well, World looks cool. All right, fine.
Starting point is 02:38:11 There was some other stuff. Yeah, you're riding a bike. Very charming art style, too. You know, it would be brave and daring and bold. Yeah, what's that? Nidhog 2 remastered. The art style is just Nidhog. The art style is the Nidhog 1.
Starting point is 02:38:31 The worst part about Nidhog 2 is I did play it. And like, there's lots of cool. stuff in that game. The weapons are great. And I hate playing it. I fucking hate it so much. Nidhog 2 demastered would be incredible. Fucking kickstart that. All right. Somebody in the chat, somebody who's known to me for being wrong all the time asks in the chat, why does everyone hate Nidhog 2? Because it looks like shit, dog. Because it looks poopy. The original art style was phenomenal and then they replaced it with a bad one. That's it.
Starting point is 02:39:08 That is it. Speaking of that being it, goodbye. Bye.

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