Castle Super Beast - SBFC 007: Tequila In One Hand, Katana In The Other

Episode Date: September 24, 2013

The Best Friends are just yucking it up this week as Pat rages HARD about the fate of Atlus, and we reflect  on TGS, Hiroshi Yamauchi, Diablo 3's Auction House, SteamOS, Evil Within, and the Bayonetta anime.Got a question for us? Send it to: [e-mail]

Wait, sorry, you meant emotions. Yeah, emotions. Oh god. He worked at where I used to work. Well now we're just getting way too specific. He lasted three days, we're getting super specific. Remember that, I told our boss about that, how we used to call him, it's emotions taking me over. What an assbag. Right? And our boss just lost his mind. Like he's choking on his lunch. All that time emotions was just playing monster hunter, listening to us play third strike and being sad. Remember that time we couldn't find the alpha collection and then he took your alpha collection? Then you went to go take it from his room and he found out you've been to his room and lost his shit. Don't you dare go in my room. To get your game. You stole my game. I have friends over, we're going to play Street Fighter.

And I was super hyped to play alpha that day. I was like I can't wait to play alpha. So many emotions. Too many. What a fucking cock bag. Hey guys, welcome to the podcast. Hi. We're so, we're so humble. So this is the super best friend cast. I'm Woollie. I'm Matt. I'm Pat. I'm Liam. And we're sitting in a different order. It's kind of throwing me off here. It's really big. It's all my fault I keep hitting the computer. It's getting way too animated. You need to fucking chill. I'm flailing my hands around and shit. You're spitting headphones. I want to talk about flailing arms. It's when you're a hostage in GTA 5.

You just got your arms turned to big noodles like the dude outside the car dealer. And then you just start flailing them around. I was literally thinking of, I think it's Ned from Monkey Island. Where his arms are just fucking like the thing from the, what do you call those, noodle men? Where you're like the car dealer. They don't have a name. They're just boon guys. They're the noodle man. I want to say noodle man. We should get a few for the Zaibatsu. We should. One for each of us. Put one on the balcony. Put one on the balcony. That'd be good.

No, get a girl in logging colored one. Put some shades on it. Get the blue things on the head. Hey, we're making money right now. People are stealing our ideas. Don't steal our ideas. That was free. That was free. That's where that comes from. What have you guys been up to, man? What's going on with you, Matt?

It's been a quiet weekend for once in a long time. We had Comic Con last week. I finalized, booked my trip to New York City with my girlfriend. And I thought she had done this purposefully. But I looked and the New York Comic Con is the very same weekend. And I was like, I found out about this just by myself. I was like, I wonder where the New York Comic Con is. And I was like, oh shit, I found her secret plot. No, she didn't know about it either.

And it's been sold out for months as the New York Comic Con usually is. But they have Sylvester Stallone is going to be there. Sigourney Weaver is going to throw something at her. Don't throw something at Weaver? No, I will because she hates predators. But she's the baddest. She's the one stopping alien from continuing on as a series. It's true because she owns rights to aliens.

And she asks for every time they say, hey, we should do another one. I want half the budget as my cut. I can't ever hate Sigourney, man. She's too important. Aliens is too good of a movie. Exactly. And she actually did a really good job in Avatar. Yeah, I think so.

And Hulk Hogan was going to be... I thought it was so right for the material. You should have rubbed oil on his legs. I should have rubbed oil on his legs. If they didn't put the walls of Jericho up around him so you can take photos. Why would the walls of Jericho go up around Oak? That's what happens, man. So that he can break them down.

It's like a spell. They just cast it and it comes out of the ground. I'm sure if you wait at the door, they'll recognize you. Right, exactly that. Hogan was like, oh, sad man, brother. It's Stallone, yeah. Over the way. That's the worst Stallone I've ever heard. I wasn't trying to mix Stallone.

Just starting to... Yeah, just make unintelligible, weird, American, Italian noises. And in terms of games, I actually didn't think I would want to play it or like it. But GTA V, I was playing on and off. But I was playing Wind Waker HD until 4 a.m. last night, just trolling people and putting messages and bottles that say, please watch Two Best Friends. Yeah.

All I see on Facebook is an update or a match, like just dicking around Windfall Island, not giving a fuck. You're breaking all of their pots. Yes, I am to understand. And I forgot that there's a room in Wind Waker where there's these shiny pots. And if you break any of them, a guy just makes you pay for them right there. And you're like, but this is against every single one ever. That's the trick, man.

And Saturday night, for whatever reason, I decided to go into the live stream viewing of our heavy rain playthrough. And I just went in there to go, why? Why are you guys watching heavy rain? Was it the whole thing? Every bit of the playthrough. I don't know when it started, but it lasts until 5 a.m. I lasted an hour before I just fell asleep watching this play heavy rain.

How many viewers were there? I think Maxler is 62. That's awesome, though. So I lurked in there for a little bit too. I jumped in when there was about 30 viewers, 31 viewers. There's some pretty good screen caps people got. Oh, I'm sure. Like the wall of Jason Text in the chat.

That was pretty awesome. I like the idea of a live viewer. I can't go through that game a fourth time. Of course, of course. I can't believe you've done it three times. And some people do some little comics going, hey, thanks for coming, Matt. An ice cream sandwich, thank you, guys. And there's the other one where it's like a bunch of guys watching the viewing.

Matt walks in, everyone walks over to Matt, starts talking to Matt. A viewing is left alone. No, the viewing is just, it's a piece of gray nothing and just a shit on it. It symbolizes heavy rain. Okay, so not much this weekend. Not much going on. For once. How about you, Pat?

I have not been doing much, but I did get to play a bunch of 101 and GTA V. The wonderful one? The wonderful 101. When did that come out? It came out September 19th. Oh, you look damn it. Yo, how wonderful is it? It's fucking magical and wonderful.

I feel like I'm playing like a wonderful magic puppy that came from Japan. Are you just vomiting rainbows? It's really good. It's really good. And probably the weirdest part is that I'm flip-flopping between 101 and GTA V and they could not be more different games in tone. Because GTA V is like, yo, this is the most expensive simulation of a place to ever exist. We modeled the flies around the dumpsters.

The cars make that little pinging noise that they're hot and they're cooling down. Just crazy shit like that. We have all these Hollywood voice actors and all that shit. And then I play 101 and it's, yo, do you like video games? Because this is a fucking video game. Are you sure this is that? Then you play a wonderful 101 and it's the most accurate simulation to be a bunch of superheroes ever.

It's a Saturday morning cartoon or Super Sentai show. It's happy. It's dumb. Oh, it's stupid. I liked your description before of you are the crowd and the enemies are trying to control you. Every character action game is crowd control, but in this one, there's one big enemy and you're the crowd.

I love that. And you are trying to overwhelm them with your numbers. It's so good. It's just so actiony and perfect in tone. And it also fits perfectly within a Nintendo game. If Platinum didn't make it, I could totally see like Nintendo making it except for the fact that it's a character action game that controls perfectly. The only thing that I would say that I don't like about it is that there's a rival battle

that has, there's another guy who has a hundred dudes with him. Do not go any further. That sounds fucking hype. And the frame rate totally shits when that guy's on the screen because there are now 200 guys on the screen. But it still controls perfectly. It just, it goes down to like 30 frames, which is most other games' frame rates. Get ready for the frame rate in the final battle then.

Man, I'm thinking like slow down in like SNES, Genesis era. It's fine. Super smooth. That's what it feels like. It feels like that because it slows down the game speed a little bit and you get a better shot of like, look at this big, huge fist punching this dude's face. It really meant X when you're going down the tracks. And you're fucking gonna say, that's the best example of slow down.

You jump at the end and fucking do a blast and you go through the birds and everything's so slow, but it's amazing. It's so hype. No, it's totally like that. The entire game is bad. The weird thing about 101 is it's way harder than I thought it was going to be. It's a platinum game. It happens every time there's a new platinum game.

As I say, I know platinum games. I beat the last one on every difficulty. This one should like, I beat Revengeance on very hard. I should get this. I should be able to crush this. No, because the rules are just slightly different and the speed is just slightly different and I'm getting like ruined by bosses. This is the harsh rule of platinum.

You gotta relearn it every time. How disappointing would it be to get a platinum game and just crush it? It would be the worst. It would be so sad. And that's why when you start, there's only three difficulties. Normal, easy, and very easy. And normal's hard. I imagine easy's like normal and very easy is for babies.

Like the image on the screen is Wonder Red playing the game on normal. Wonder Red playing the game casually on easy. And Wonder Red adds his human form without the costume on the couch eating cake while playing it with one hand. Hard mode should be Wonder Red playing Wonder 401 with like the steel battalion controller. When what? Hard mode is just unhappy. He's just angry? He's just angry.

I didn't look at the one for the 101. But you've also been playing it a ton. I have beaten it a fair few times. It is so damn good. I don't think it tops Revengeance in my book. Does the only game that comes close to Revengeance? Does the ending moment come? Because I'm going to imagine there's a big crazy ending moment.

Hero moments, let's say. Does it come close to Bayonetta's hero moments? The ending moment is above Bayonetta's. What? The ending sequence? Okay, so let's say the ending sequence of Bayonetta starts when you start riding the motorcycle up a rocket into space to punch God into the sun. Sorry, if you haven't played Bayonetta or beaten Bayonetta, fuck off. Also, if you haven't, you shouldn't be listening to us.

Also, if you haven't and wrote that game off because it didn't look interesting, what did you just describe Liam? So you motorcycle up a rocket in Bayonetta into space and you fight God and then you punch God past all the planets into the sun. And it's better than that, 101's ending thing. The last minute of 1 of 4 101 finale, I think, is better than that. That's quite a claim. The ending sequence of Bayonetta is maybe 45 minutes an hour long. It's long. The ending sequence of 1 of 4 101 is like 2 hours long.

How do you stretch a fucking climax like that? Because there are like 5 fights against them. You stretch a climax like that by going a little bit then backing off. His videos was nuts because Bayonetta was, I beat the final boss. Oh shit, no you didn't. Action sequence, action sequence, boss, boss, action sequence, action sequence, credits, action sequence, credits. Action sequence, real credits. That was the final boss sequence as well, like 2 bosses after you start to take the rocket.

For 1 of 1 it's like 5. By the way, please don't fuck off if you didn't play Bayonetta, we really need you guys. Please buy Bayonetta. Please, please. Alright, so 1 of 4 101 is what you've been up to. Dude, it's amazing. Will he promise to buy a Wii for 1 of 4 101? He held true to the promise.

Let's say you should probably get a Wii U, will he? He's playing wonderful 101. Will he go buy a Wii U already? Oh, I thought you were telling us something we didn't know, like he actually did a Wii U. Maybe you should follow through on your love of platinum. Do you not recall when I said the Zelda deal was the thing that I would get? Oh, the Zelda Bundle. The Zelda Bundle.

Oh, it's out now. Go get the Zelda Bundle. So get it before it's sold out with all those grey market assholes. I bought those guys. Yeah, guess what? They're buying them up like crazy to sell the figures. I'm taking pictures of their receipt of how many we bought because fuck everybody, you're going to buy it on eBay. Well, just in case you don't hate me enough, here's my receipt. Oh my god.

I fucking hate grey market sellers. That's pretty much my whole weekend. Can I play hours of that? The game tells me I have about 20 hours of playtime. That's not true. The Wii tells me I have like 30 hours of playtime. Because the way platinum games do it is they don't count cutscenes. They don't count when you redid the stage.

They count total time on your records. That's why in Bayo there was that item that you could get if your total game time was like under 90 minutes. Or something. Then your time on the game would say 90 minutes. Because I know for a fact that Matt, this would happen to you because it happens to me a lot. Sometimes I just pause the game and just put it down. And just leave. And just leave.

Yeah, yeah. And you still want your playtime. I know my playtime is fucked. I don't do that and yet every single game that has a clock, I'd say that clock is way the fuck off. Absolutely. It's way off. Street Fighter Alpha 3. There's a little clock in the options where it's going up.

The one that was the most blatant was Skyrim. Is that it told me 100 hours? No. Because that's not counting all the reloads. Yeah. That's true. So it's probably closer to like 150. Oh god, so that means my Okami playthrough was even longer than that.

Way longer than that. Yeah. You remember what you were calling me? It was 80 something. Mine said 62 hours. Mine was 56. Yeah. Oh my god.

Now going back, bringing up the sensitive subject about Tales. Tales of. When I was playing Tales of Symphony when it came out, I fell asleep. I paused the game. I fell asleep at least twice. Man. Sounds exciting. And I paused the game because I was going to bed.

I didn't turn it off because I wanted to play the next day. But I remember my time being 99. Yeah. It was really hot. But sometimes I do that on purpose though. Because again, something me and my roommate used to do was if there's a moment of really awesome music and I'm done for the night. Just play it. Just fucking pause it right there.

Yeah. Last story's title screen? Yeah. Just let it rock. I'm not going to. Yeah. I was just going to the title screen. I was whistling that for like a month after the game came out.

Yeah. And I was so good. Yeah. Whisper that in the ear of your lava. Totally beautiful. For me, the one with the world ends with you, which had that tag mode, right? And I found out you could check the playtime by like LR Select. And I'm like, how much playtime do I have?

It's like 700 hours. And I'm like, fuck off. Shut up. No, I'll show it to you. It's the tag mode. The tag mode. I believe you. I'm just telling you to shut up.

Yeah, exactly. That's like all those people that their resident evil numbers are jacked because of mercenaries. Yeah, like you. RE6, if you go on my RE6 profile on the web, it's like 80% mercenaries. I keep 30 hours. 30 emails from Capcom being like, hey, RE6 owner. Yeah. You're connected to residentevil.net.

Do you want to know the mercenaries challenge for this week? No. They show you the metrics. Yeah. Oh, wow. It's super detailed. It's really cool. Interesting.

It's the coolest thing about RE6. The second coolest thing about RE6. That's what the first goal was. Tetris attack mode. Yeah, sure. Then it's the third coolest thing about RE6. I never liked the new mercenaries. I always preferred the old one.

The like the fourth certified version. Like three and okay, right. Like here's an area. Here's an old scenario. Get to the end. Yeah. I much prefer that versus like a score attack. No, for four I blew so many hours for five.

Like that and the versus mode because it was just mercenaries with other people. I can't believe you fucking played the resident evil five versus mode. Dude, it was just mercenaries with other people and it was so good. You competed against each other. Yeah, yeah. And it was really fun. And you bought the portable game as well. The mercenaries 3D, I did.

Yeah. I have like 40 hours. That was weird that I played that at Captivate and kind of liked it, but I just never bought it. Well, mostly because I was pissed about that fucking stupid save game issue, although I don't remember why. Because for a while it wouldn't let you erase your save game. Yeah. Well, I'm the kind of person where I just wanted to see all the melee moves.

Right. And there's a million. Yeah. Yeah. My favorite thing in RE5 versus was surprising people with Wesker. Because if you hold L3 and R3, she sacrifices his life, does the pose, and then does the dash. Yeah, he gets the dash.

Oh, nice. And then if you melee out of that, you do his knee, his tiger knee. Tiger knee. Yeah. And like nobody knew about that. Oh, that's awesome. So you do that, knock people down, then kill them with a magnum. Nobody knew about that.

I figured that out like 30 seconds of playing with them all. A lot of people didn't know about that. Okay. Yeah. Well, what have you been up to? Well, this weekend I had the time I started My Killer is Dead. And that game is pretty weird. Yo, it's really fucking weird.

Yeah. But I am thoroughly enjoying it. Your tuxedo mask simulator. Oh, my God. So hard, you guys. How far are you? A few hours. Yeah, I'm at like mission six or so.

All the sailor scouts are pregnant. That sounds like a title of a game. Yeah. So I know I just beat my sailor scouts possibly be this pregnant. Oh, God. I love the mission names. So far, that's a really cool thing that's been going. The man who stole the planet.

The man who took her ears is the one. Yeah. That's a good one. Yeah. That was a fun mission actually. Man, like the style of the menus and everything is just. It's exactly what I wanted from like a current generation, like not on the Wii, like no more Heroes game.

Yes. It's exactly what I want. Also, more importantly, like not only in demeanor and style, but ultimately the way he moves and plays, fucking Mondo is Henry. It's a character action game. It's fucking for you. It's Henry Cool Down. Yeah.

To the point where he even does the same dash. Yeah. Off of circle in multiple like three sets. Yeah. He even looks like Henry. I fucking love it. Dude. I wish he'd have a jacket as well.

Like a jet like. Unlockable costume. I'm sure. There's unlockable costumes in the game, but you know how to get them. They're really weird. I haven't done it. When you do, when you do a mission and it'll have like the breakdown of all the payments. Yeah.

There's always one that's weird and you're like, what? You have to either look it up online or when you look at it, you go a guard break payment. So you have to do that mission again and only do guard breaks. Only to wash or do a shitload of them. Do a shitload of them. Whatever it is. Yeah. Because I mean, there are some of those special missions that there's one or two where you

have to exclusively do them anyway. Yeah. So I obviously like, I'm not watching the playthrough because I don't want to get spoiled on your shit. Yeah. But please tell me you guys had a freak out moment like I did when you seduced the first girl, the red girl, redhead chick or whatever. The Brazilian.

Yeah. Yeah, Brazilian. Yeah. Well, whichever one you so choose to. Yeah. No, but that's like the, well, I guess it seems like that's the first thing. She's my favorite. I like so actually.

You know, it works off. You tap her on the back, do the thumbs up and it goes, yeah. Yeah. And then it just cuts to, you earned the drill. Yeah. What the fuck? Yeah. We freaked out when we got that.

I think Pat was quiet for a bit after that. Oh, man. It's not great. It's ridiculous. It's so fucking high. You have to, when you've done one girl like that, you got to do her second time to get another thing. I did.

And then you do them a third time and you get the whole scene. Yeah. Like an extra up. Yeah. No, I realize that. You got to do the girls multiple times. Also, just sorry, because we only found out about this recently because a fan told us about it is that you have to do a Scarlet's challenges missions.

You have to get a thousand guts. It fills up a syringe and then you kind of date her. But it's automatic. It's kind of automatic and she gives you a special item that you can't get anywhere else. Yeah. They tell you what that is. And some of the challenge missions, Pat can attest or really do it.

And they're insanely hard. Some of them are unbelievable. But yeah. No guys, like if you haven't had a chance with Killer is Dead yet, fucking play it especially. It's a really solid character action game. Exactly. It's pseudo-style. It's like they really took that No More Heroes feeling and just put it...

Made it good. Yeah, it's early platinum like you said. Yeah. They got it alpha. Above the bar. It's a mad world. It's now above the bar. Playing Killer is Dead makes me really excited for Lily Bergama.

Bergama. Bergama. Whatever the fuck it is in the game. Their new character action is so good. It's a noble adventure. What's confusing is that the character's name isn't Lily Bergama. No, why would it be? Why would you ever do that?

That's clean. No, what strikes me about Lily Bergama is that that game is literally anti-banetta. Yeah. Because she does moves and enemies get more clothes. They get all wrapped up. Yeah. Right. Okay.

Okay. Mommy's alive. Yeah. And one of the hardest cells in the game is fucking like the David fight right at the beginning. Early, early on. Yeah. You get your moment, man.

You're like, I'm sold. I'm in. You get your arrival battle where it's a person with a sword that approximately the same size as you. Starts off, walks slowly. Walks the slow walk. Yeah. Right?

We must have been over this a couple of times, but just to get it out there. You know it's one of the best fights in a character action game when the character walks slowly towards you. And they're the same size as you. Yes. It looks like it might have been someone else on the other end playing in the game. Well, because the duel is always the best character action fight. It feels so good.

So yeah, that was me, man. You want the character that is the same as you, but slightly better. Yes. So that when you beat them, you're like, fuck. Yeah. Yeah. Anyone who wants to feel that feeling should play Vanquish. Yeah.

Go on. That's the greatest example of that moment of all time. To make yourself to play Vanquish. It's never going to be a Vanquish sequel. I'm looking off into the distance. It's killer instead. You just got to get to the end. Shinji Makami shooting.

That's evil within. You got to the end of evil within and you just put on the suit. That's awesome. That's it. Time to break some psychos. Perfect. And as we were talking about the way Wonderful 101 goes towards the end and Bayonetta and stuff, with the amplification of crazy shit in Vanquish, it does the same thing, but internally.

Yeah. Yeah. It's so sick. Platinum games have really strong endings. Yes. And I don't mean story endings. No. Story endings are all trash.

But games have such a problem with final levels, right? I think the best example is Gears of War 2 as the worst final level of any game. It's just a turret sequence against a boss that doesn't matter if you shoot it. Gears of War 3's was worse. Right. The problem where you hit the point where you're like, we're being so cinematic and you can't play this. It's just the QT.

There are so many games that you beat them and you just go, yeah. The middle part was the best part. Yeah. Right? But with Platinum games, you get to the end and the final boss is the best part of the game. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Absolutely. Like, you know, it's like Modern Warfare. You played at least Call of Duty 4. I played a lot of them, yeah. Right. At the end where you always get that, oh, throw the knife or shoot the gun once. Yeah.

It's cool. It was cool that first time they did it. Exactly. It's cool, especially the first time. But then it's just like, no, give me some gameplay. Talking about all these games really quickly, I just realized, like, we're getting in there really early of, yeah, the wonderful one. Killer is Dead just came out.

Oh, none of us have really touched Rayman Legends, GTA V. This is like the earliest where I'm like, got to buy everything. The rush. Usually it's like maybe late October, but this is still from August. Yeah. They have to buy the consoles. They have to buy the consoles. The hype is now.

I bet I feel like that was a fucking next gen change. Yeah. They're going to get even weirder because Call of Duty and Battlefield and those games are going to come out. And then two weeks later, they're going to come out again. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Assassin's Creed. Assassin's Creed. Watch Dogs. Watch Dogs. Sports. Yeah. Sure. Oh, God, you just know Watch Dogs has some crazy, ridiculous twists that they're hiding

from us. Oh, do you know what? It's actually a dream of a guy in the medieval ages. That's what I want. That's what I want. Not bad. Either that. So there's some guy from when we saw this, listen to the podcast and I'm going, hey,

hey, hey, hey. Change the marketing guys. It was too obvious. Quickly. Oh man. All right. So yeah, that was a pretty long roundtable. Yeah.

The games we're playing this week are awesome. Yeah, they're really good. A lot of shit going on this week. Right off the top, I want to say really important piece of news. Last Thursday, September 19th, Nintendo's visionary Hiroshi Yemoichi died at 85. That dude was really fucking cool and important. Now he was running the company back when it still made playing cards, right? He was the guy that turned it around.

He was the third president of the company and he actually made it grow from cards into video games. Yeah. I think he was in charge for over 50 years. Yeah. Was he still running things? No. He's a big shareholder.

The Watt has been running things. Yeah. He's a big shareholder since 2003. But he was behind the scenes for a while. Chilling on his throne made out of Game Boys. Basically. Yeah. And he was known for being like sort of a Japanese badass businessman, old school.

Yeah. Because he instituted the whole, you need a license from us to put games on. We want the reverse of Atari where you can do whatever you want. You can do whatever you want. I would have heard both versions of this story. One is, yeah, how do you pronounce this name? I don't want to fuck this song. Yamauchi.

Yamauchi. Yamauchi. A. Saved video games. That's where I was going. Forever. Yeah. And B. was a draconian prick that wouldn't let us make as many games and shovelwares on the nest that we wanted.

Exactly. So that's exactly it. He fucking reversed the video game crash. Yeah. Not single-handedly. Not single-handedly. The decision was the largest- Instrumental.

Instrumental. Exactly. The policies of you cannot release more than one Nintendo game a year back in the day. And that's why you had all those other shitty, like, Konami and Ultra- U.S. Gold. Ultra games. Ultra games, U.S. Gold. There's a bunch of-

We're going to put out our shit somehow. Yeah. And then eventually you get like weird, like, bootleg carts that have weird ships in them that'll run on a nest, whatever. So remember, Konami- Tengen. Yeah. Konami puts out Metal Gear, but then they're like, we need another Metal Gear quick.

Well, we already put enough games- We've already put the maximum Metal Gear on the NES. We'll have Ultra games release snakes revenge! Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, they really- He put that out there and it totally curbed the bullshit that the fucking Atari had to go through. Well, just for a little bit background, because if we're talking about the policies-

Yeah. But you don't know why those policies existed. Atari crashed in the 70s because they were putting out so much trash that it was literally going into landfill. Anybody could make a game at any time with no restriction whatsoever. And you ran into these horrible publishing problems where, hey man, do you want the newest sports game from Atari? Yeah.

Well, you got to take 500,000 copies of ET. Yeah. And just it flooded and flooded and flooded and the bubble burst and the market died. Yeah. There's a- what should we call it? You can go check out the Pac-Man port. Originally. Oh, actually.

I have two copies. You've put this on video before. It was in Fighter Media in one episode. Weapon Lord. It was in Weapon Lord. All this poo garbage. Man, the Atari port of Pac-Man's the fucking worst. And it just shows you how far you can come when you're like, we don't care what we're putting

out. If it's software and it sort of boots- Because there's like 8 million Ataris out there or whatever the number was. Yeah. And they're all playing it, right? No, they're all in their closets. Like how do you fuck up Pac-Man? It's like fucking up toast.

It's such a simple game. And plus that's where games like Custer's Revenge came from. Yeah, because just a bunch of dudes just make Custer's Revenge and just sold it to Sears and Sears would start selling it. Whatever. You know, it's a game, sure. So no, Yamauchi just came in and like regulated that shit and his crazy draconian policies saved video games.

And he not only that, but like he was known for having an attitude as well. It never actually happened, but there was an article that said- I know what you're gonna say. Steve Ballmer walks into a meeting room with him. And Yamauchi says the first thing he says to him is, Hey Ballmer, you can lick my balls. I don't want anything to do with your shit. That was the tone, if not an actual event.

Yeah, so he finally gave up the ghost last week and shout outs to him for being super awesome. Something like 2,000 people in Japan attended his funeral. That's cool. Him and Gunpei can go up into heaven and start making Metroid sequels. Oh man. I believe it might have been Yamauchi that fired Gunpei. I don't know about that.

Scratching the back of your head. Really quickly. I don't want to speak ill of the guy, but I remember IGN had a couple of characters specifically on the Nintendo channel when it was articles or news. And they were actually kind of funny. One was the GameCube Master. And it was this black dude that was like this. He was just doing like this finger-

What was he doing? It plays real good for the radio there. He's doing like this claw type thing with his fingers. And this is this black dude. And he was a guy that was always shouting about how great the GameCube was. And he'd just be like PS2 garbage! GameCube for life! Are you serious?

I remember that guy. And the other thing is that there was giant three-headed Yamauchi. Which was just, they took his head and photoshopped it like three times. And he was just this kaiju type guy. Because this is at the time where IGN and Sites of the Out were like fuck old Nintendo not having online or whatever. So they were very kind of anti-establishment with this. They were like, yes, who's this old guy?

That makes no sense. IGN started as N64.com. It didn't start as N64. Yes, it did. It started as N64. I was on that site. But it had other channels. No, they didn't.

Listen, they were N64.com. I just shut my mouth because Master's putting his big old legs in. So here's what happened. They were N64.com. Then they became IGN64 when the Imagine Games Network bought them. But they were only Nintendo content, exclusive. Learn the lore, man. And then after IGN64, then they started IGN, PSX.

Whatever. Whatever. And then it became a huge network. Yeah, it was the only site. And then it reviewed God Hand poorly. Yeah. And then no one respected them ever again. But then they put in their top 100 PS2 games of all time.

That makes me so upset. And it's so dumb. It's so trivial. Why would it make me upset? It's God Hand's awesome. Yeah. The morning I woke up and saw that news, I was sadder than I expected I would be. He was a visionary.

And he changed a lot. And he had his own camera shades too. Like he had the yellow tinted sunglasses. He could have been a character. Super signature. So you want to pull the Wii U out of the shed or you're disgracing his memory. Do it now. But yeah.

No pressure. All right. Okay. So right now, before we move on, I'm going to look at the time here. We're on the clock. We're going to give this exactly 10. We're going to give it exactly 10 minutes. All right.

Okay. Sega. Oh. Are you there? We only got 9 in a bit left. We don't start until you finish your sentence. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sega Sammy.

Oh. Acquires index slash atlas for 14 billion yen. Now a subsidiary of Sega. For those that missed our podcast a few weeks ago, Pat was like, I want anyone but Sega to buy. I was adamant. The day after we released it, people on the comments were like, you fucking should have waited because this came out the next day.

So all week we've been putting up with this fucking shit. So this is maybe the worst case scenario of anything ever. It could not be. It could not be. It's hard to tell. Probably not be. But anyway. Okay.

So the fact that they made a whole subsidiary company to eat index and how index put out that PR statement, not talking about how they want to synergize and mix up the teams. All they talked about is how we want to keep making the same games that we're making now. Now, taking that at face value is a little naive. But usually when a company gets eaten to be turned into a smartphone factory, they usually talk about exciting mobile developments that were really. You don't know. New ideas.

And it's not that bullshit. All they talked about was how Sega's distribution network will help them in Europe. Yes, basically. So I'm reminded of when this happened with Sammy where they're like, we're going to buy out Sammy, but we're not just going to take them like what happened to Hudson. They kind of went, we're going to create a new thing called. Wait, Sega buying Sammy? No, no.

The opposite. No, sorry, sorry. Sammy's the rich guy. Right, right, right, right. So sorry. But the point is that they created Sega Sammy Holdings, right? And that was the group that owned both separately. Yes.

So in that case, it was like, you do your thing, you do your thing. Now this whole new group owns both. Now the new group is technically underneath Sega, which is underneath Sega Sammy. Yeah. So the evil Sega that I hate forever because of the no Yakuza left localizations, they are technically in charge. But the fact that index was able to choose its buyer during the auction, they have not split index up.

Yeah. They've left it as its entire company. Yes. Minus the criminal assholes that drove it into the ground. Of course. Good choice. Gives you a little bit of hope. Now I was feeling better about this earlier this week.

And then TGS happened where they unveiled a new fantasy star game followed by immediate statements that people in the West should not look forward to this being localized. Which gives me no faith. I think, sorry, if you don't mind, I'll just go ahead. I was just going to say, before we go too far in, you said index criminal assholes. Give that some context. They did funny bookkeeping. They did funny bookkeeping.

With indexes accounts. They were just dirtbag accountants, criminal douchebags. So index the company that owned Atlas. They ran themself on the ground doing all kinds of sketchy shit. And Atlas is the only division of their company that was profitable and solid. Hella profitable. Yeah. It did a good quarter, every single quarter.

Yeah. Unleashed bullshit that shouldn't make any money at all. What I was going to say is the flip side of that localization thing is Atlas came to sell a lot better than Yakuza or the fantasy star ever sold. And you're totally right. You're absolutely right. Captain sold over 200K first week. I spoke to a person who would know these things.

Who works in one of these companies. And the message I got back was nobody knows all of the details yet. But the safest thing in the world is persona localization. Yes. If anything were to be in danger, it's not persona. Yeah. And it's not Shin Megami Tensei. It's incredibly super niche stuff like Etrian Odyssey.

Which sells fine here, so. Yeah. Small. Fine. But crazy. Stay boarding Yakuza. Yeah, shut the fuck up. I just want it now.

You might not get your new pretty shirts. That'd be nip on the cheese off. That'd be totally wrong. The ideal scenario here if we were to live in fantasy land is that Atlas USA becomes Sega of America. And they know what they're doing and they know how to do a cheat. And they can bring over all these Sega Japanese games. That's not going to happen because we don't live in fantasy land and I fuck.

Look at the very least you know for a fact that they're not going to fuck with Atlas's production. At least not for the current batch. How crazy profitable they are. There's a bunch of stuff that's under wraps and has been under wraps for years. Who knows. I can't believe Persona 5 was not announced but TGS again. That was said to be the bombshell.

Me and Pat were sure it was this year. Every year we're sure it's this year. But this year we're even more sure than last year. Especially since putting out Persona 5 news right after this acquisition would be a good way to go, hey look. Don't worry. Well if you saw it, nothing was announced in TGS. And that's the flip.

Did you see photos of this year's TGS where they show empty lot? Yeah. Because Konami doesn't have a booth and someone else doesn't have a booth. So moving right along, I'm going to take this from you, Willie. TGS was a fucking shit show this year. You guys were like, this is going to be the best TGS ever. It's the saddest thing. There were so many things where they were set to come and just nothing happened.

Like Capcom was getting on stage with What's His Face from Rival Schools and DMC. It's Uno. Oh, something. And then it was a mobile game. A mobile RPG. How about that? Yeah, from the director of Breath of Fire. There's that Breath of Fire spiritual success.

It's iOS only. Every single announcement was a mobile game. Every single announcement. Well just for the record, the Madcats booth was hype as fuck. They were streaming awesome matches all weekend. Were they showing off PlayStation 4 sticks? I don't think so, really. Well, then I don't care.

They did Madcats Unveiled. They got some of the best fighting game players from Japan and America to do sets of first to 10. And it was really hype. Street Fighter. Street Fighter. Yeah, fight games. And then Harada was there with a perfectly photorealistic cosplay of Heihashi on his head. Like walking around with his signature shades, but a realistic Heihashi face.

That was really cool actually. But aside from that, TGS was the most boring and awful crap ever. The only band out of thing there was a little hole in the wall that had a poster for the anime. How about that anime? Which we didn't get to. And like, hey, Vita owners, are you happy to get the worst monster hunter of all time on the console? Well, on the flip side, a lot of Vita games, but like, yeah. Yeah, so this is how fucked up TGS was.

Vita got more announcements than everything else. Except iOS and Android. Yeah. But even then, it was only off by like seven games. Like it was a close run. Nobody's making next-gen games. Nobody. Yeah.

And there were no Wii U's. And I know you say there was a taiko drum man. There was supposed to be one for taiko. Arcade ports. I'm not even going to count that. There were no Wii U games to be like, hey, look, people are just holding on, man. They're playing the cards close to the chest. Let the consoles launch.

Well, in Japan especially, considering everything's Ann-El's and mobile. Yeah. But there's no like Japanese PS3 or X-Bone games. There's only deep down that I can think of. Well, I mean like... Which looks just... Yeah, how about that? Which is a free-to-play game.

Which is a free-to-play game. Cool. Yeah, everyone can play it. Yeah. Fuck off. That could be amazing. I have no faith in Capcom. It could go either way.

Sure. Sure. Gravity Rush 2 sounds. Yeah! Gravity Rush 2! Absolutely. Man, what the fuck TGS is... It's making us go into things out of order.

We're just shooting out news. What the fuck did you expect? I know, I know! It's a game show. So go ahead and take your order back. No, it's fine. I was just going to say to Matt, like, when TGS dies, they're going to re-announce JAMMA. It's JAMMA's going to come back.

I want JAMMA to come back. You're a game show. It's Nintendo. Except... Who's going to be there? Who's going to be there? So now? Or are they just due directs now?

Directs. Just to make sure there's going to be a big direct. Nintendo customarily does one at TGS time. They only skip 2011 or something. No, it's been in the last couple of years. It's been on October. But TGS time. About what?

I want Smash Bros. and Bayo dates. That's all I want from that thing. You're not going to do a Smash Bros. date. I want X. Just give that X date. Smash Bros. is 2017. It's really weird as much as I shit on the Wii U when I really think about it. When I really think about it.

First party Nintendo games. There are more of those that I'm psyched about. Playing than anything that I currently know about. But they're fucking a million years away! But look, you're not going to get any kind of date or approximation or core. You know what you're going to get? We've improved Samus's charge beam. So now it's stronger and faster.

Can I get a trailer for Shin Megami Tensei across Fire Emblem? Probably not. Probably still too early. Maybe another trailer. Do we for X we're going to get a date? Do you know who's making that? Which team is making that? Intelligent Systems.

Okay, so it's the Fire Emblem guys. Exactly. That trailer just screamed, please forget about this game for now. Please don't get excited. Do you remember when I was watching that trailer right next to you? It wasn't even new concept art. No, it was old concept art from old games. They had a totally unredone SMT-1 hero art on there.

Liam's leg was twitching the entire table. Everything was just shaking. Jesus. Okay, when was Bayonetta 2 announced? It feels like forever. It was announced at the American Nintendo Wii U presentation in January where they showed off Call of Duty... It's been a while. What, no, no.

It was like October because they showed off Call of Duty Black Ops 2 at the same time. So it was there in October. Other interesting things did happen though that came out today. Big Valve announcement, they dropped the word that... Steam OS. Steam OS. No shit. Yeah.

So where's your Steam Box? Everything's a Steam Box. There's no Steam Box. So there's no Steam Box. I'm really confused as to what that is. It's very simple. It's another way of installing Steam. But it seems like it's just like a streaming box.

It doesn't... And you can hook up... I could hook up my PC in my... Like if I had a big apartment that had like a computer slash work area. Yeah. That's where my super strong PC is. Yeah. I could stream shit from the street...

From that to the Steam Box to my TV. Yes. I'm super down for anything that on principle is take medium or take game format that is not on your TV couch. Yeah. And put it on TV couch. And this is part of... Oh, sorry, Liam.

I just wanted to say what it is, is it's getting around the Steam Box because there's going to be a box. Yeah. With either Nvidia or AMD. That's probably going to be announced like tomorrow. And it's going to be Linux based. Yeah. Those that can run the Linux games, but it cannot run the Windows games.

Right. Which you are intended to stream with Steam. Right. So your Steam Box will stream to your stream Steam Box. Yeah. So stream to your TV. Unless you want to put your Steam Box next to your TV. Just give me a disc.

It's... Yeah. You know what? It's really confusing. And for somebody like me who just has my PC straight up hooked into my television. Yeah. Totally pointless. Which is understandable.

Now. Yeah. But what it means is that it allows Steam and all of its partners to get away from Windows. And the deal is like, I honestly like the idea of just a simplified get to the point OS. Is it simplified? Yeah. Interface that I can just have on my TV. And it's the idea of like, I can have a gaming PC that just works like a console.

And just rip the parts out and put new shit in. Right. Now what's interesting... Exactly. Exactly. Except you have to keep it up. Now this being now a living room platform. Right.

Right. Are we going to start seeing exclusives? Are we going to Valve games? Maybe. Maybe. But... Valve games. Sony and Steam already have a relationship.

And apparently that did really well. Yeah. Microsoft and Steam will obviously never have a relationship. Of course. Due to the whole point of any relationships being to get away from Microsoft. Yeah. Yeah. And they were talking about how the Steam OS could be streamed to any device.

Yeah. Which makes me think like, you know, possibly streamed to PS4s. Whatever. Yeah. And like, that reminds me. That's the one thing that came out of TGS in regards to the next consoles that was actually interesting. Which was streaming...

Guy Guy. PS4 games to your Vita via Wi-Fi out on the street. Works really well apparently. Yeah. Yeah, but a Sony guy said that. You never know. Yeah. They were right next to the things.

But dude, have you used a PS3 and a Vita? No. Even right next to it, it doesn't fucking work well. Remote play is stupid. But it's cool. And it works really well apparently on PS4. I mean, look, there's a lot of... Like, streaming is becoming like such a fucking huge deal right now.

Because in addition to that, they also just announced the PS3 library is going to be on PS4 via streaming as well. Which we just were saying the week before. Hey, Microsoft says this is theoretically possible. And you guys all went, bah-ha-ha, never in a million years. No, no, no. Here's the thing. It wasn't possible.

It wasn't possible. Here's the thing. It's not significant. I think it's possible. I have no faith in stream gaming. Okay. At all. Well, they've announced this.

Yeah, I know. But I have no faith in that shit. Yeah. Until you show me a demo that the response time is the same as my ping. Which is eight milliseconds. Then I don't care. Because, Woolly, you play a lot of fighting games. You play a lot of character action games.

Yes. You and I, I spent a lot of time on the PC. You know the difference between 55 and 60 frames. Yes. You can feel that. Everything, yeah. When you're talking about streamed content to you, you like perceptibly will be able to tell the difference between one frame of lag and four frames of lag.

There are games I would never play on that. Which makes me super, super nervous about this. But with shit like Valkyria Chronicles or whatever. Whatever. Yeah. Like an incident of fate. This catamari. Resident of fate actually needs a lot of timing.

Sure. But stuff like that. It's not. It's time. You can just mash buttons. No, you can't shut up. No, you can't mash buttons. Shut up, Liam.

Street Fighter 4 on on live for the worst experience of your life. That's what I'm talking about. It exists. It makes me super nervous. Now I would love to eat my hat on this. Yeah. Because that's awesome. But I have like, yeah.

And the other, yeah. Well, we'll see, man. But either way, it's totally like they're putting, they're banking on it now. They're banking on it. But like as an official. Well, they announced it like a while ago, but yeah. Like for me, it's like this is all really cool. And like you might have the most advanced server architecture in the world.

But sometimes like I live in a major North American city with the fastest internet I can buy in a nice apartment building. Sometimes my internet just shits for no reason. And it's not because of me. It's because four like kilometers down the road, something fell over. Simple shit. Right. And like that's the kind of things that would fuck up a service like this that makes me

nervous. No, I know what you mean. And cynical. I just want to get a word in on the steam box real quick. I feel like for a lot of people, there's not going to be a whole lot of use for it at all. Like if I want to play, like if I want to play PC exclusives, they're going to be an indie game, which I can run on any PC.

Right. It's going to be like a laptop or something. Exactly. If it's a AAA, I'm sorry, it's not an exclusive or it's an RTS, which I would never play on my TV. Yeah. Like I, I'm not finding too much use for anyone who already is really into console gaming.

Like if you're going to get big into PC gaming, just get it. The use case for PC gaming the past couple of years is like, man, console frame rates just suck ass lately. So get a gaming PC, but going into the next gen, like one of the coolest things about asset cost, like everyone's bitching about how much it costs to make assets and how we got to outsource it to Ubisoft Shanghai and all these different Ubisofts is that all these next gen games are targeting 1080p 60 frames a second because they're going for performance instead of shiny.

Absolutely. Yeah. And just to get the last bit of like news related to the stuff out there is Sony as well, super encouraged and very happy with the Western response to B2TV. Weirdly, like they said, the date like was announced. They said, we don't know if we're going to put it out in the West and everyone goes, what the fuck are you saying? And everyone went, come on.

And they went, whoa. Yeah. There's a lot of people who want the B2TV. So apparently the reason why they said that was because in Japan, there's no competing products like that. Yeah. Right. It would be the only one.

Yeah. And here, there's a bunch. I am fully confident that much like instead of the PS4, Japan's getting the Vita TV, instead when they get the PS4, we will get the Vita TV in mid-February, March-ish. 2014, early. Yeah. And then, of course, everyone's going to react that way because it's like, yes, there's micro consoles here, but none of them can run Dragon's Crown.

No. You can play Soul Sacrifice in gravity games. Fuck. I've been screaming for like a console that just is a handheld, poked up to my television for forever. Yeah. And I think I said that one that Vita TV doesn't ask. And apparently there are a lot more people like me than I thought there were.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Really cool. I don't know if you guys have been following at all. I hope you were. Yeah. Club.

Shovel Knight. Right? They just, they're doing the votes now. They're doing the votes. There's the smartest way to do that. Yes. They said we couldn't figure out what bosses to play there. So basically, Shovel Knight.

Where do I go for that? I got the email. I don't know where to go. It's not out yet. It's going to. Oh, okay. They're going to bail it to you. It'll be in October.

But Shovel Knight basically they hit their stretch goals and they did crazy well. They crushed it. And one of their goals was playable boss campaign. Three. Right. Right. Three playable boss campaign. Yeah.

That's crazy. So choose like all you backers vote for who you want. Right. Which one of these bosses you want to be playable. And I'm looking at the list and I'm like, it's really hard. I can't even pick one. Little three. Okay.

Plague. No. Plague because I different. I like I thought about that because of his design. I don't like playing with bombs. No, I don't want that exactly. So for me, I'm like fucking polar night. Yeah, that polar night.

Give me the fucking big guy. Sure. Right. Absolutely. Polar night for sure. And I'm like torn between like helicopter night and like tinker night. Yeah. Tinker night.

Because I'm like, does helicopter night have like tons of jumps and weird shit. Yeah. And then you look at Black Knight and you're like. Fuck. Black Knight's Virgil. But I don't want to be the asshole who picks the guy that limits the kind of different play style. Black Knight goes through.

He's just going to have a stupid hard campaign. That's what they said. And he'll have more mood. He'll be Proto man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So, uh, polar polar night and not just cause King Knight's the dumbest name. This play style will probably be too similar or whatever.

He's the Dan. King Knight. This is the kind of Kickstarter vote that I'm looking at. It's like this looks harder than the Skullgirls character. Because the Skullgirls character vote, like they put like 50 characters. And they're like five that were like one of these five or two of these five are going to make it. But you couldn't call it from there.

You couldn't call it from there. But now you got eight. And they're all, no, you get nine with the enchant, no, 10. With the last boss. Right. And they all look awesome. Yes. And it's like, ah, and you can pick almost half.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's rough. It's rough. Just as an aside, just since you mentioned a Kickstarter game, the very first Kickstarter game I ever backed, I'm sure someone must have heard of it, but Volgar the Viking.

Yeah. Came out and we, I think we should probably take a look at that soon. Because I tried about maybe two dozen times to finish the first section. It's been a long time where you get to a certain type of enemy and you swing at him and he dies. You're like, okay. Then you get to another enemy and you walk forward and you swing at him and he does something completely different than the last guy.

So it's kind of like not, you know, dark souls in a way where you're looking at a guy you're like, okay, so what's he going to, what is his deal? I predict this. I predict this. Oh, he did this. Yeah. And now I'm dead. And now I've got to restart.

And it's very, very, very brutal checkpoint. I've been reading about this game's brutality. That sounds a lot like Dark Souls. And it's been getting, it has been getting good reviews too. So I've been trying to play that. I fully endorse the concept of rip off dark souls, like forgiving enemy patterns. And for the old Dark Souls, like rips off the other like old, hard games, but it just does it well.

Do you mean the Kingsfield games? Yeah. That they made? That they made. By, that are like 20 years old. I mean, all old, super hard games. Yeah. And it just didn't change.

Yeah. Where it's you and your controller at a war of attrition against the game. Yeah. And the game like is mean to you. So we all know there's some games where you look at it and it's like inspired by Tomb Raider. And you're like, eh, because you know, they can't quite pull it off inspired by the last us. And they can't pull that off.

What are the ones that you look at? And you're like, that's fucking good. Inspired by Dark Souls, like vanquish. Like when you see those. Inspired by Dark Souls is the one where I've seen it. It's like they've pulled it off the hardest and inspired by Metroid, particularly with the sketch. Yeah.

There's a couple of them. Yeah. Are just killing it. Yeah. Inspired by Mega Man. Yeah. Yeah. What game would you say is inspired by Mega Man?

Shoal Knight. Yeah. Shoal Knight, of course. Another game no one can pull off. Inspired by Smash. No one can pull that off. Not even Sony. Yeah.

Not even Nintendo. Like Nintendo doesn't make Smash anymore, they give Sakurai his own team from some other fucking game. Yeah. And he just molds Smash out of nothing. It's true. Do you remember when we were in that Game Boy Color era of model a game after Pokemon? Yeah.

Yeah. Fucking bugs, buddy. And not just model a game, model everything. Model a TV show, model a card game, model everything after Pokemon. Fucking Pokemon Looney Tunes, man. Collect them all. Black version, white version, whatever. Bizarre as bizarre gets.

Unbelievable cash. We need more homage games and less shameless Call of Duty clones. We need more Dead Space Ones to Resident Evil 4s as we do home fronts to Call of Duty 4. Instead of taking your guy and saying this is what's selling, take your guy and say what do you like a lot and let's make it sell somehow. Other interesting, speaking of like all that sequels and homages and kick starters, have you guys checked out River City Ransom Underground?

Yes, I have. That looks really cool. I'm always really nervous because I remember there was a Kickstarter for Bad Dudes and it was the worst Kickstarter ever. So I don't really know what's going on with, because Pat's doing a weird thing, I can't get distracted. Sorry about that. It's so weird.

Put your pants back on. No. Is that those were American dudes that were making Bad Dudes and it was the worst thing ever. So when I looked at the River City thing, I'm looking at American dudes making them like yeah. But then when you actually start watching the stuff, I'm like well it's actually super interesting.

That's the thing, you take a screenshot of it and you're like yeah okay it's River City Ransom. You need them, you see the movie. You need the movement. Holy shit. It's the same thing that happens every time. When you see Dead Rising given to Canadian guys out in Vancouver, you go right and then they kill it.

And then you see Del McRae giving to a bunch of guys in England and you go and then you see it and you go no. They literally killed it. They literally killed it. And then you just said like oh you give it to a bunch of American guys. That's the funny thing. You look at it, apparently these guys are from Canada. Like who the fuck's from Canada right?

Canada. I know. Jeez. Okay so is this game semi official or official or what? It's actually super official. They got the license. They got the license. That's radical.

What is it? Technos? No. Which company is that? It no longer exists. Oh okay. But they actually got the license. Not Takunio-kun.

Right? But to River City Ransom. That's such a confusing like genealogy of games. It happened. It's just bad as Double Dragon. But it's on par I think. But it's considered separate because like they actually changed the character or the clothing.

Yeah I realize it's different. So it makes sense that it would be different. But it has Kishimoto is the creator of Double Dragon and all that shit. He's there. He's there. He's backing it and he's a creative consultant for them. Right. Hey you guys fuck that up.

You should fix it. Got it boss. Yeah. I wasn't even like doing that for all those other Double Dragon games. Just like not the one that we played, not the Double Dragon 2 Remain. He was not part of that. He was only part of Neon. The really bad XBLA one that's not Neon.

How the hell did Neon come out? And Neon was really good. And then right afterwards a different Double Dragon came out that was total garbage. I'll tell you why. Because that one, the garbage one was being made four years ago. Oh right. And then they lost interest. And then Neon came out.

They were like holy shit let's just zip this up, put it in a zip file and just dump it on XBLA. Okay so don't do that. More homage games. Yes. Less horrible cash in. Exactly. Thank you.

Oh I'm sad. Speaking of Double Dragon Neon. It's totally random. What? Did you know Desk, the combo video guy? Yeah. He made a fucking combo video for Double Dragon Neon. I did not know about this.

It was so good. Really huh? Does Desk just fucking play fighting games at all? Or does he just do weird bullshit? It seems like now he does more weird bullshit. There's one year where, one of the years I was at Evo, the whisper was Desk is coming, Desk is coming. He's going to play and participate.

Wait have people ever seen him? We don't know. Oh my god he's going to play. We're all dead. It's over. Maybe if he can actually fight and he didn't show up. There's all that weird stuff that you hear about that when Seth Killian was talking about like the QA team on Street Fighter 4.

They don't play competitive fighting games. They're not allowed to. If they did, they would probably win. They would destroy everybody in the actual scene. Because no one has more time on the clock than they have to work there. But they're banned from participating in tournaments. In official events. I think they would dominate everyone.

I'd love to see it. So Desk is this guy that has, he's a musician. That explains everything. That explains everything. A maestro of combos. He's a musician who walked by an arcade stick one day and tilted his head. I can do that. And so he just puts out videos of him breaking shit ridiculously with frame specific timing.

Half a frame specific timing. I don't know how he does it. And he's doing run dash duck cancels in Double Dragon Neon for some sick combos. I really want to stop this podcast. I'll show you later. Let's just pause it right now and come back. But yeah that's some really cool shit. I want to see his Shovel Knight video when the game comes out.

All night trick videos. Not combo videos. Trick videos. Yes. Look at me do a sick Ollie. Look at this boss. On my shovel. You're gonna jump funny.

Okay so I'm gonna say a date and you tell me what's happening on this date. March 18th, 2014. That is the day, oh god, oh that's the day that the Diablo 3 auction house will die. Shut it down. Let it burn. Yeah. Years too late. It's too little too late.

Embarrassing. Well actually maybe you know what maybe the new update could maybe get some interest in that. Well that's why it's being postponed. Because they can't just turn it off. Slowly. They can't just turn it off with a loot system that's geared towards the existence of the auction house.

They need to basically completely redo the core component of their game and completely redevelop it. This better come along with the ability to play that game offline. It's like the announcement of you know cataclysm or realm reborn type thing. We're changing a big fucking thing in this game. And I think it's they know because like that expansion is not gonna sell very well if this shit is still around. So I remember when this first came out and I asked you Liam, I'm like correct me if I'm

wrong but isn't the auction house like the one thing that made everybody- It was the biggest. And generally the consensus is why isn't this just an HD remix? I'm not sure. I don't really play Diablo. In the sense that like Starcraft 2 is a quote unquote HD remix of Starcraft 2. So here's the deal. You're right.

It should have been an HD remix. And the auction house isn't the one thing but it's the reason that all the other things are there. So why is it online only? Because to prevent cheating for the real money auction house, why is the loot system totally fucked to push people towards the real money auction house? It's the source of all of the game's problems, literally all of the game's problems. How much of a cut do they take on every real world?

I think it's like 5%. And it must have turned out that that cut is not worth the infinite shit that will not stop falling on that. You're blizzard. And Jay Wilson, the guy who was behind Diablo 3, the number one guy, the director I believe came out and said, yeah, we really fucked up by putting the auction houses. And then the console versions of Diablo 3 came out and they don't have that and they're way better.

They're way better. People are saying definitive versions. Yeah. The 360 version of a Diablo game is the definitive fucking version. If you listen to Sunken Spirit, that was the D version. Yeah. The PC was like... If you didn't play Starcraft 64, you didn't play Starcraft 64.

I'm correct in saying that to blizzard fans in general, I don't mean this in a negative way. I'm a blizzard fan, so... And I am kind of, but like, when blizzard puts out a new game, whether it be Starcraft 2 or whether it be Diablo 3, a blizzard fan will go, I want a bag that can hold all of my groceries, but I don't want the bag to be heavy. Where they'll say, if you make Starcraft 2 exactly a lot like Starcraft 1, people go what the fuck, you suck.

If you change tons of shit in Diablo 3, they go, what the fuck? What people want is Super Starcraft. Yeah. Yes. Like, does that answer your question? Yeah. Like, when Burning Crusade came out for WoW, people said, is this Super WoW? Yeah.

Is this just WoW but more? When Diablo 3 came out, all we wanted was like some class remixes, some improvements, better online infrastructure, and then they went way too far, and you saw stuff like The Auction House and like, people didn't like the new tone. Well, when the game was first shown and everyone started flipping their shit about, oh blizzard, put colors, what the fuck. And you know what? They said the game will still be dark.

No, it wasn't. It wasn't dark. It was so not. Apparently the new version is darker. The tone was very clearly different and very clearly inspired by the mass popularity of World of Warcraft, which nobody wants. There was a blog that was dedicated to comparison screenshots of the colors being all fucked up.

They're all WoW-style. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because Metzen's running the whole thing. I hate like that fantasy subgenre that WoW has created, like League of Legends looks that way. Red and colorful fantasy. Kingdom of Amalor looks that way. That was weird because for League of Legends, it's not WoW, it's Warcraft 3 that they're

taking that part. Warcraft 3 is not nearly as colorful as WoW. Do you forget? Liam, we're going to call you out on something. You were a baby. I played it. You don't like those games, but you like Darksiders because you see the exact same art side. I like League of Legends, but I don't play it a ton, and Darksiders is not really the

exact same. It's not really the exact same. Darksiders is the heavy, is the heavy metal version of that color balance. It doesn't have the, yeah, but stuff isn't pink. Yeah, there's pink stuff. There's not a lot of stuff. So what I was going to say is that I remember when, like, lots of- There's not much pink stuff in WoW either.

Darksiders 1 and Darksiders 2, a lot of people would go, oh, what the fuck is this World of Warcraft art style? Like, yes, the art style that Joe Madd was drawing years before World of Warcraft, yeah. But you know, people would see it and they'd think it's the exact same art. What I'm saying is I don't like how it got popularized from WoW. You know, you're right in the sense that, yeah, Darksiders is a bit like WoW. But you know what? You know what?

At the end, I will take that style. I know you're going to say. Yeah. Poser style, generic, bland night and armor. Well, it was like a big argument right when both of those games were unveiled, like, right next to each other and boy did a clear winner emerge as time went on. Yeah. EverQuest 2 looks like fucking trash, it looks so bad, and wow, like, it looks primitive.

Sure, because it came from 2004 that was made in 2002 standards in mind, but you look at it and you go, oh, that's a cool screenshot or whatever. I don't want my game to look like knights and dragons from fucking reboot. Right. You know what I mean? Wow, it really does look exactly like that. Yeah. No, no.

The same sort of thing is that when you look at, like, wow, you look at EverQuest or whatever, it's kind of like if you look at, well, since I'm playing Wind Waker, Wind Waker will hold up art-wise, Twilight Princess will not in another ten years, eventually. Well, it's when, like, Twilight Princess came out and people were posting these, like, up-res shots of Wind Waker using emulators, and Wind Waker looked way fucking better than Twilight Princess. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just, like, this always comes down to art style, yeah.

There's something to be said for a timeless, like, more rounded art style. Hard edges are death, like, a good example is Mirror's Edge, a game that's near and dear to our hearts. Yeah. You put that on PC and you clean it up a little bit, the really strong primary colors and clean lines. Yeah. I mean, that that game is going to hold up as a showpiece way down the line because there's

nothing really awful in it that can bring you out. There's no weak element. Dude, it's fucking Okami PS3. Perfect. Yeah. Like, your eyeballs are like, oh my god. It is the best-looking game of this generation. It is the best-looking game of this generation.

Yeah. I can't believe how good this looks. Yeah. Too bad I'm not going to play it. Oh, yeah, you just got Okami, you just got your PS3 and you probably popped that in and went, fuck. No, I didn't. I just saw the screenshots of it.

Seeing it in motion makes you go, fuck. Dude, I bought it on the original PS2. I bought it on the Wii. This is the best version, though. I know. But it's not going to play it. It's the best version in all ways. Yeah.

If I play that and I don't play Okami then instead, then I'm just going to fucking- Don't play Okami then. Don't play Okami then. It's way worse. That is- Just play Okami again. You're not going to play Okami again because you don't have another 60 spare hours. Yeah, I know.

You own it. You own it. That's it. Just own it. I'll own it. Just play Okami again. There are some cool trailers, though. I don't know if you guys-

Well, is it- Whatever. Fuck it. What? No. One minute. That's the fucking question. I was just going to say, was there anything new added into PS3 Okami at all that would

be- No. No, it's the shiniest shit ever. Graphic wise. No. Okay. They added the ability to change the level of the paper filter. Trophies and move controller, I think.

I was looking for a single excuse to go, oh, maybe I can- Hey, get the trophies. Playable QB. You know what I mean? Like, something. To be fair, though, that game had so much fucking content, why would you say you need more in this board? I don't know this game.

We need- We need content taken out of this. Please put that aside for us. Yeah, TGS trailers. TGS trailers. What do you have? Fucking evil within. I haven't-

You know what? You haven't seen that one? I posted on Facebook. I haven't seen any of them. Oh. Are you avoiding? No. I just-

It's this weird thing where people posted all these things and said, yo, evil within trailer. Yo, Metal Gear trailer. And I was overcome with this thing of, like, why do I even need to watch this? I'm going to buy these games. Evil within trailer did the thing that I like, because as you know, you're this survival horror guy, not so much me. I know you guys dabble, right?

I'm nuts about it. We have our tastes. For me, like, what I like is when I see a situation where everything that could have been done in the real world has been done or tried, and it failed. So when you pop this trailer open, the first things you see are, like, the cops pulled up to this mansion and tried to fucking do shit. They tried to stop it, and it all went horribly wrong. And I'm like, I like that premise.

You like the failure of the realistic expectations. The authorities. Exactly. The people who have control of every situation completely fucked up here. So you're, like, seeing the popo get fucked up? Well, no. It's a lot. It's a sick sense of shade and Freud that Wally just has.

No. Shassan Freud? No. I thought it was Shaden Freud. It's Shaden Freud. Shassan Freud. No. Someone correct us.

Someone correct us. This is going to go on for another six minutes. Whatever. The desire of seeing other people's pain. Yeah, Wally loves that. It's a pretty new pleasure. Anyway, no. You love it.

But it's like, when you're playing the fucking zombie game or watching the zombie movie, what's the part that gets you going, oh shit, is when you go buy the tanks that are overrun and you're like, a fucking military tank. There's the perfect example of this exact concept as the intro to Resident Evil 3 where you see the last stand of the police and they fucking lose. And that's the setup for your situation. And where this, it's like, the cops are dead. Yeah.

That's all you see and then you get into your good shit. The thing about evil within, I'm not sure if you saw, but they said this game can now, which it was hinted at, can now be just completely played from start to finish in three different styles. Yeah, which was really interesting. I read traps, stealth or shooting. Yeah, you can stealth the entire game, except for bosses. You can dance, exit.

Yeah. Traps. Yeah. You said traps. You said traps. No, when you say traps, do you mean like Bioshock traps? No. Bear traps.

Real traps. Change. Like the Kagero series. Yeah. Yeah, like exception. Oh, yeah. But just straight up, it's like you can shoot the dudes or you can avoid the dudes. I'm interested in this.

Or you can make the dudes break their own legs and bear traps. And then, and then avoid them or shoot them while their legs are broken. Yeah. Or put more traps on them. And I want to do that. And what that says to me is that if you made a game that can be balanced around stealth, that the perfect, like that that game is balanced towards dude, you really can't shoot everybody. Yeah.

And then you're going back to Resident Evil 1 of Mikami's work of like, there aren't enough bullets in the game to kill every enemy in the world, in the game world. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you're not even going to find all of them. Unless it's something like, like enemies take one headshot to kill. No way. You see them? But also you do.

But also you do. Yeah. I don't know. Other trailers, and I barely say trailer because it was more of a cough, but like the attack on Titan game, which it's four seconds. Well, there's two. There's two. That's the thing.

There's the 32nd one. What? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a 32nd one. But before the 32nd one was the fucking four second trailer. Yeah. It was eight, actually.

The half of it was an anime thing. Yeah, it wasn't. It was like a great show. It was a show. Yeah. And you're like, what the fuck is this bullshit, guys? Can we see some footage, please? Okay.

Then the 32nd trailer came out. Uh-huh. And just what? It's a hunting game, isn't it? Well, we knew that. It's action. You're zipping around. You're jumping around.

Running on the wall. You can zip. Oh, you're zipping. You're zipping. Can you zip zap? You zip zap. There was at least one zip zap. Zap, zap.

Yeah. And you spin slash. So that was the attack on Titan game for three days. And I thought it, because it was Spike Chun-Saw, I thought it was going to be a fucking visual one. We all kind of thought that. And then you see the first screenshot, which is four characters on the ground looking at a Titan.

And you go, oh, it's a hunting game. And now you're telling me that they're actually going to follow through with the three dimensional gear. We didn't see enough to know if it's fully going to be that. Unless it's just like all cutscenes and shit. But we saw a bit of mid-air action happen. Okay. Now the thing with this is, when you say you're buying the license to fucking attack on Titan,

there's only one kind of game that everybody thinks of that you have to do. Car game. It's a car game. Exactly. Fucking shoot Titan, throw us down the card. No. The premise. Crushes your family.

The entire premise of the thing is fucking tower defense with crazy shadow. The Colossus mechanics. You need to make that. And Spider-Man movement. And yes. And then like we were saying as we were coming here, you would like to think that the guys that were behind it were just like, we're not selling you the license unless that's what you're making.

Unless you can deliver it. Everyone came to them with a vertical slice. Yeah, yeah. The best one. Fuckers fuck. You fucking need to buy this license. It's the biggest anime since like Madoka, I guess, two years ago. Dammit.

No. Appreciate it or not. It's bigger than that. Don't get me wrong. But it's the biggest thing since then. It's a big hot thing. What's the biggest thing since that then? Yeah.

What do you mean? Because I don't want to talk about Madoka. Before Madoka? Maybe Gurren Lagont. There you go. I could say that. So what I would say is I want a fucking game on a console so I can have a controller. And I want there to be a quick zip type thing, but not ever.

But then you have 3D maneuver gear left and right, R and L, with your two sticks and two triggers on the body. So here's the deal, right? One of these. If this game's sequel gets a Vita port, then you can put it into your Vita TV and play it on your television. But I want it, I really want it to be so hard to use the 3D maneuver gear that like fuck you too bad.

No way. I don't want it to be, like even if you know, I do want it to be dumb hard, but like with two sticks it's just dumb dumb hard. No, but optionally, optionally, like you can just do the zip button to play or you can do the cool tactics with your maneuver gear. I don't, I want it to be ease of use, but I also want it to have enough depth that you'll be like, hey, you remember that shot from the anime where they did a flip and you're like, how did that animation work and people are doing that?

Well, the example, I gave Lee, it was like, like, let's say you can have an easy mode like, oh yeah, just buy the spin attack or manually shoot your left one to the right and your right one to the left and like cross and then pull the wrong one. So you spin then the opposite slashing direction, like make it that fucking crazy. And if you have that, if you have that, you have to make it so that like when people's wires cross, they flip out and just slam into the ground. Which never happens in the show sometimes. It never happens in the show.

Every time those look at you. Imagine if you graduated, you're not going to do that in the middle of a fight. That's why they have that thing where they throw people off cliffs to test them. Right. But uh, yeah. But again, so far the 30 seconds, looks like it's probably going to deliver some of the shit. The game looks so good that I think, if it's good in the end, I'm going to import a 3DS

for it. The game that I could possibly see actually getting like a North American release. I think it could, but I'm just so excited for it that I might just have it. It would have to have an, uh, the anime would have to be released in North America. It would be late as hell. It's coming out of North America. It's big. Yes it is.

Oh, the anime. Yes. The game would be late as hell. Like it'd be a year late. That's fine. But I can totally see it coming out. Who licensed the show? I think Funimation.

Oh. No, that's a good thing now. It's a good thing now. Really? That is. Because when I hear like Funimation. I think of like all those one piece pictures of like lollipops covering dirt. Yeah, that was like literally seven years ago.

That was four kids. Oh, four kids. That's right. Four kids. I always forget. At the very least, it's not like it's a weird situation where the game comes first. So they have to create the names and translations and everything. And what the fuck?

Dude's just rubbing each other over here. Whatever. I just gave him a little pat on the back because I felt bad for insulting his anime. He's got a little out of hand. I can't sit next to this kid. Sexual favors off camera. That's friendcast. If you listen really closely to the Funimation, don't do it.

Don't do it. So you were saying? I was saying that you have those weird situations where the game has to, why did you stop it? You're just doing kissing noises by yourself. The man make out noises. Man make out noises. Guys, fuck. All right.

So I'll just do it. No. This is about video games. I was trying to say that it's fucked up when the game has to establish the translated canon of how the names go and how the weird like, you know, because then it's like, do they follow that? Do they not? What do you do?

I just want to point out who the what fucking subgroup is it? Is it Gigi that's decided that it's not Titans? It's Aotans? Oh God. Who the fuck did that? Gigi. No. Yeah.

I've been watching Gigi and it doesn't say that. It was Kami. It was Kami. That's it. It's Kami subs. Because I'm watching Horrible and Gigi. They're both Titans there. I'm watching Horrible on Neve Taku.

Yeah. Six days to release an episode. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah. Horrible, if I'm not mistaken, is the official one going forward. Because of course that's the one stolen from Crunchyroll. Yeah, I didn't. Hey.

That's the Funimation one. Don't. I don't know. No, I watch it too. I watch it on Crunchyroll. I haven't really budged because of games, but whatever. Sickle digits. It's on 8.

All right. That's when the anime started. Okay. Yo, that FGC. Again. Sedira and Orchid. Oh, I'm out. Yeah.

So I watched the original trailer, so Killer Instinct, they just showed off two characters, fucking Pat. They just showed off two characters, Sedira, the Spider Lady, and Bjorkid, Black Orchid, I guess now. You mean Orchid? Calling her Orchid. Not Black Orchid, whatever. Just like how Thunder is not Chief Thunder anymore is Thunder.

One word titles. Right. And the thing is that's weird is they didn't do a real full Sedira reveal, like in terms of showing off all her stuff, but they did this weird one-off stream that was like an hour long. Yeah, with Ken Lobb and just playing two other guys. Ken Lobb being a dick because they're trying to show off the character and he's like, no, I just want to win.

I just want to pick Thunder and I want to win. I don't care. I want to win Ken Lobb. You know, show off your shit later. You guys will find out eventually. Ken Lobb, this is your job. No, shut up. But no, she looks really interesting.

She has everything that no one else has. She can double jump. She can jump off wall. She has the only person with an air projectile. Liam, if I don't know if you've seen this, her throw launches you. She looks like the coolest character in the game. She's really original as far as fighting game archetypes go because the only person approaching her style is like Dong Hwan in the weirdest, non-appropriate way.

Oh, also Spider-Man? She's got a web zip. No, no, but the point is... Also, she's a spider. Also, she's a Spider-Man. But not really Spider-Man though because the deal is she has nothing on the ground. She's super weak on the ground. And it's like she's got the one DP type move and that's pretty much it.

But she's got a double jump. She's got a zip in any direction, a dive kick, like a million... Like I said, her ground throw launches you in the air. Yeah, exactly. And then wall jumps on top of all that. So they were showing off her cross-up, uncross-up wall jump dive kick mixed up KU. She looks like the coolest character in the game. I maintain that.

If you thought Cammy was bad, holy shit, you're not ready for this. Mixed up fucking city. And we've seen nothing of Orchid so far except that the tiger is separate. Okay, because I saw some people complaining like, but I like that cooler because that's a strider. It's like cool, but it might just be a taunt. But you know... No, it's not a taunt.

First of all, it's her intro. They show the intro sequence. Secondly, she's not going to turn into it after it's sitting next to her. No, I know. But you're just saying things that are not confirmed. No, we don't know if it's going to be any of her moves. But guess what? If it's her, it's going to be her move because what's the most memorable thing she did?

At least a super. A tiger lump. At least a super. Yeah, a move. Yeah, of course. What I would like to see is a Persona style or JoJo style. You send it out and then you play as her. I think of Noob Sabot throwing out his Shadow Clone and grabs you.

That's what the special should be. They want everyone to be really different, so she'd be interesting by being a two in one. Yeah. She'd be Carl Clover then? But no, not a full blown Tiger character on the screen. Just projectiles. Only Arc System works can get away with that.

I don't think they're going to make her drastically different than the rest of the cast. I think she'll just be a rush down character because there's only so many. I didn't think they were going to have an aerial juggled person at all. You can see a move where she does EX Tiger leap and she sets it down and then three seconds later it jumps, then she gets the free move, cross you up and then from both sides roar. What did I already kind of say, but what did you think of her design? A lot of people on Gav especially are like, fuck those goggles.

She looks fine. I need to see a better look. Obviously, it was a really fast glimpse. She looks like Tank Girl. She really looks fine, man. She looks like Tank Girl. She's like Tank Girl now. I don't care about the color of her stings, but that's rad and I know you hate steampunk,

Liam. Yeah. She looks fine. It works. No, I hate steampunk. I don't like it because I hate when someone has a tall pat and it's got four gears sticking out of it. You know what?

You're right. You're totally right. I hate when every character of glasses has eight fucking magnifying glasses. You mean in real life, right? Or a character design. But you're cool with zips and pouches? No, I'm cool with steampunk when it's tasteful. I'm cool with zips and pouches when they're tasteful.

Well, zips and pouches aren't very tasteful very often. Much like steampunk. But let's not all wear a top hat with gears and make a buster suit. Let's not wear top hats. Let's also not forget that FF7 is steampunk. Yeah, but let's also not wear a bonnet with every brand. It's tasteful steampunk. Yeah, they're not going too heavy on it.

Well, the SID is the most steampunk looking thing. You see the fucking sword that was posted on the internet today that made its rounds where it was a steampunk buster sword? And it has this gear sticking out the side? It's like, what does the gear do? Nothing. It looks like steampunk. The gear is making it look like steampunk.

Yeah, exactly. Although, see what you will. There's a steampunk arcade stick that looks like fucking sense. I saw it. It looks beautiful. I don't care. But when it's tasteful, it makes sense because an arcade stick is machinery. Yeah, it's mechanical.

Yeah, okay. When I posted the picture of Orkin on the best friend's Facebook, someone was like, what the fuck? How come she's not turning into the tiger? And this is a weird point in my life where I'm no longer this age where I care that much about. They made a slight difference in SIGs. You care so much.

I really don't. They made a practical difference. And Orkin is one of my favorite female fighting game characters ever, but now she looks like not embarrassing. You're an oldie. Right? Yeah. She doesn't have a ginormous thong that makes no sense for a secret agent to have.

And weird, like Janet Jackson face. Weird Janet Jackson face. She's mulatto, but she's also Jego's sister? Like, this makes no sense. No, she looks really good. Like, honestly. I just want to hear her music. I want to hear her music.

What do you do with that? Yeah. So, other fighting game news, they came out with the first translated English chapter of Umehara to live is to game, the Daigo manga. Oh, wait, manga? Yeah. I thought you were going to say like documentary or TV series or manga. Is it traumatized?

It is very dramatized. Oh, I got to get in on this. Can you like, abridge the first two pages or something? This man is the greatest man Japan has ever seen. That's so good. So, like, you're reading this and you're like, oh my God, it's just stroking so hard. But it's actually, well, on the back is fun. On the backs, just say next time on, let's go Justin.

It's Justin like an evil demon. No, but they draw him accurately. Justin Hitler and his Marne Hitler. So far, so far, like, it seems like the Americans are drawing it in a funny way where like, they're like, something badass happens and then they just draw the Americans sweating. You know, he's just kind of like, oh, such power. If there was an anime, they would have the cut in Bleachface. Like, oh my God.

So does this end when Dago stops winning Evo? That's the end of the arc. So, so far, it's been showing like, his current status with the mad cats, but then it reflects on a story of his past. But is it going to go up till he stops winning Evo and then time skip to the next time he wins Evo? No, it'll end with him walking towards the mountains with an arcade stick. He's totally got, like, they have the chapter where they flash back to Alex Valle and he's

looking, yeah, they got the Valle in the t-shirt and they're like, I gotta read this. Yup. And it's just the weirdest thing in the world. There's up to the point where there's a panel with Latif, RZR Latif, she's on stage like giving props to some other guy and you're like, fuck, they're doing it. They're in there. They're in there. And the arc's really nice.

Do we need manga adaptations of more fighting game players' lives? Yes. Like, when you start reading this manga, does it say this is an actual manga of Daigo getting angry? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, what other players do you think? Triforce. Marn.

Oh, man. I was going to say Tokido. Right? Confessions of a murder face. No, the Triforce manga is just a drawing of him holding a drawing of himself. I want Korota's weird homeless adventures in playing Q. Do they have licenses? Like...

Madcatch is there. No, no, but like Capcom games? They just say the word Capcom and they just show you sprites. Yeah, that's fine. So it's just like, you can do that. Just if they had to replace Darkstalkers with light stairs. No, it's like you can have Wolverine reading a Batman comic. Yeah, yeah.

Yes, no, the difference is that something like Genshikin is like making a joke. Well, I was wondering how blatant it was because it's a big part of his life. Genshikin is making a joke and stuff whereas in this case they're like, no, here you're playing Street Fighter II. Good, okay. Too bad. Street Fighter II is way too important to fake it out with a weird fake game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But no, like honestly, go give it a peep.

It's really fun. It's called Umahara. Umahara to live is to gain. To live is to gain. That's so ridiculous. When you get past the like the five pages just fucking with the trumpets and the pomp and circumstance. I mean, get past. That sounds great.

Yeah, this man, this legend, you know. He doesn't fucking win anymore. But he still had a really cool life. I still like the guy. I'm honored to have put him out to pasture, have him stud for new fighting game babies in the future. Yes. I wanted to come back and win again. I think the pan was created when a giant person in the sky dipped his sword into the ocean.

Three drops made the islands and another one made Daigo. And you wanted to come back and win more Evo? Just make another game in which Ryu is top tier. Yeah, that's your dad. I look forward to our rematch, which will never happen. But if it does, it could be immortalized in manga. What happened? Could you show where you put on your glasses?

Could you imagine you were in there? It's like the easiest thing he ever had to go through. That's actually really nice. But it doesn't matter because you're in there. Like he's just walking through with a stick in one hand and you just go, ah, and he just puts his hand on your face and just pushes you out of the panel. Brace your glasses. I want a little shot of like Woolly in the background just putting on his glasses with that little anime sparkle on the glasses. I would be honored, but that makes no sense.

There's two same perfects all the time. Yeah, of course. It doesn't count if we got a real match. You're only significant because they kind of knew you on the stream, maybe? That's the power of America right there. I think I saw him on a goofy video. A rematch at this point would be like better, but now it's too late. Payback.

Payback for nothing. Other interesting things. Soulcalibur lost swords. Oh, fuck off. No, but here's the thing. Here's the thing with it. Like this is the experiment. They're going with it.

They're going full blown. Is it going to be different? Can we get that, that, uh, law money? Can we get that? No, I don't know. And yes, the answer is no. So do you remember back in the day when Soulcalibur 2 came out? Yes.

You had three modes to play on the arcades. You popped in your 50 cents. You could play against other people. You could do training mode for three minutes. You sure could. Or you could do campaign. Yeah, that's true. Campaign was interesting as fuck.

Yeah. Because no other arcade game had it at the time. And Web and Master on the home port was amazing. Yes. So you built up your character, you built up your NPC. Yeah. And then you'd fight some other guy from your arcade character. That's right.

Yes. It learned your style. Yeah. Now the idea of that was always kind of fun and interesting. Soulcalibur has already played around with weapons and power-ups and things. On more than other fighting games, it has the right to try something like this. It's got so much shit. But here's the thing about League of Legends all that.

The power-ups and stuff that you buy are within that match. Yeah. They're not, you walk in with them. All that stuff is cosmetic. So far, what I understand is you're basically building up your levels and shit. So it stays with you and your look stays with you. But I don't think your power-ups and shit stay with you. It's fucking better not.

Unless it's a type of sword or blade that you have. Because then it's pay to win. But it's a single player. It doesn't fucking matter. A single player? Yeah. It's a single player so it doesn't fucking matter. Dude, I'm sorry.

You didn't get the breakdown on this. It's only single player. I just realized. What the fuck are you talking about? I'm sorry. Okay. And how do they get the League of Legends money if it's only single player? I don't know why you're saying that.

Sorry. Let me explain this to everybody. So Soul Calibur Lost Swords is their attempt at making a free to play Soul Calibur game that is single player locally. Okay. Online you play against other people and other characters. Did they say that? I don't remember even saying that.

I don't remember even saying that. Single player. That's the whole point of leveling your character. I don't know. I recall him saying single player only in every room. I'm under the impression Tekken Revolution is the multiplayer one and Soul Calibur is the single player one. Yeah. See, here's the deal.

When you said Lost Swords, I said fuck off because it's a single player weird Soul Calibur game. No thanks. And then you start talking about them getting that League of Legends money at which point I go, wait, fuck all that shit. The shit you're talking about ruined fighting games. Yeah. And then you say, no, wait, it's single player, but it's multiplayer online. So there's no local because we'll fuck that thing.

Okay. No, no, no, no, no. Single player only. My mistake. It's mission based single player. It's not going to talk about that. I actually want to say I really like Weapon Master and what was the one in three again? I can't remember.

Tales of the Sword? Tales of the Sword. Those are really good roads. Yeah, they were fun, but I want them to come alongside a fighting game. Well, no, but facts of the matter is it's free to play. I'm going to try it. Then try it and just talk about Soul Calibur Legends then. It's the same thing.

Because it's no, because Legends is shitty fighting. Right, but I'd rather have shit fighting by myself against great fighting against no. No, but you played Soul Calibur II's weapon. Yeah. And what was it? It was great fighting against no one. I'll go and play that. And you enjoyed it.

So why not be a little more? Soul Calibur II is better than five. Because when I play that Weapon Master mode, I don't have to worry about mechanics that are there to get into my wallet. But that's what I'm saying. Let's give it a chance. I'll give it a chance when it comes out, but that doesn't mean I have to respect the fact that it exists.

The way I see this is because it's free and because fighting games need to do something to get out there, I respect attacks at different things to see where they go. But the Tekken one was a total disaster. To the hardcore Tekken players, who are the guys they're supposed to try to get with. There will be a balance reached, but what we're seeing is that Namco is trying to figure it out. Eventually you'll get something that kind of works. Namco's going bananas on free-to-play games.

Yeah, they're really going crazy with it. Hey, look, gems are not the answer. There is totally a place for awesome competitive free-to-play games. Tribes is probably the best example I can think of. Tribes is the best example by far. Tribes is awesome. I played a shit ton of Tribes. Installed it back in the demo computer.

I'm talking the new one. Oh, okay. The new free-to-play. It's fucking awesome. I didn't spend a dime on it. I played it for like 40 hours. This is a fucking amazing shooter. Then I said, I should buy some weapons, because I don't take too long to unlock these,

but I want to buy some of the weird weapons. I bought them, played three matches, realized that's when I was done with Tribes, so it ended up being a tip jar. They got their money, I got a ton of game. It cost me five bucks. It was awesome. There's totally a place for fighting games like that, where you play a shit ton of Ryu, and then you go, man, I fucking love playing this Ryu.

Yeah. Buy all the costumes, play for maybe 10 more hours, and then be like, I suck at Street Fighter. That's dead or alive. That's dead or alive. That's dead or alive. Or it's called Killer Instinct, because you get Jago for free. That's true. And then you choose, do I want to play more of this, or am I done?

So let me just make my stance clear. I'm super excited about the future of fighting games in a free-to-play area, because I think that can get the audience huge, which is what fighting games need. But it's cautious optimism, right? But every particular example, I will approach with the same cynicism I point towards every other free-to-play garbage, where this is not going to be the one that does it. This is going to be the one that's disgusting. Yeah.

To me, with Soul Cal, it's like, I agree, but since it's only single player, it's like, how bad can you play? And eventually, because they're going to keep doing it, I'm going to be proven wrong. I'm going, yeah. This is the one. Once you get people that wouldn't have cared to let go, oh, these are interesting systems. Yes. You know?

I don't care about Killer Instinct. If Killer Instinct's the one that does it, then I'll fucking play Killer Instinct. Yeah. Damn right, you will. So you like Ace Combat a lot. What do you think of Infinity being free-to-play? I don't know what that game is. I haven't heard of that.

Oh. What is it? What is Ace Combat Infinity? Ace Combat Infinity is a free-to-play Ace Combat. But what does that mean? It's one. No one knows. We'll see then.

I don't care. Wait for your extra planes. It's like it comes out today, people rooting around on the GTA code. The GTA's online might be a free-to-play game. Yeah. But like, honestly, Tekken Revolution, like free-to-play multiplayer fighter, Soul Calibur, free-to-play single-player fighter, Ace Combat, free-to-play multiplayer, the Gundam game, free-to-play multiplayer, and Idolmaster, free-to-play single-player.

It's a thing. It's a thing. Yeah. And like all of these are good properties for it. Let's just see how they execute. Idolmaster in particular is a good property for it. I really hope they learn the balance sooner rather than later. Yeah.

So get it out of the way now at the end of PS3 and let's have a fucking great next day. You know what the whole sort of situation is? Or you said it's the growing period or whatever? Yeah, growing pains. It's like graphics can't advance to any like, you know, sort of thing. Like when 3D happened, there were so many shitty, clunky 3D games when 3D came in. So now what is the thing? Multiplayer, free-to-play single-player.

Dota 2 is the originator and winner of the formula. And there's like all these growing pains until someone kind of, what do you say, nails it, nails it once. Yeah, right. And it's now, it's the weirdest thing because Dota 2, I hate Dota. I fucking hate it. I hate MOBAs. But Dota 2 nailed the business model.

That's the one. Yeah. And seeing people fail to copy it is weird. And sort of moving along, but not entirely, when they finally get the formula right, right at the end, that's when Tekken Cross-Street Fighter will come out. Yeah. Yeah. And it'll be being worked on, but it's a long-term project.

And it'll be the total opposite game in every way compared to Street Fighter Cross-Tekken. Yeah. Because it's going to be good with DLC and free-to-play stuff, whereas Street Fighter Cross-Tekken was probably the most publicized disaster of DLC management ever. I'd like to think that when they were signing the papers for these videos, they basically just went, so here we're going to make it, you can make a game with our properties. We make a game with yours, but there's no dates or deadlines on them. It's a very, very broad, weirdly worded thing.

Or it just says, you get one game with Ryu in it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, when is this game going to happen? Boom! To be completely blunt, I think Namco got the best end of this deal by five country miles. Going second? Yeah. Not going second.

Just getting the Kacoff ship. Yeah. Whereas they got the Tekken ship. But it's totally a Rochambo. Yeah. At the same time, Capcom poisoned the well on that crossover, so it would be smart to push that into the future. A little breathing time from the last game.

Yeah, for sure. Like, because Tekken Cross-Tekken is going to come out, and no matter when it comes out, there's going to be people going, like, isn't that that game that everyone hated? Yeah. Like, no, that's the other one. It's going to be awkward if Ono and Harada do more of those live-action versus videos now that they actually have, like, maybe sort of beef of, you made the worst thing ever. And I could potentially make a really good one.

I hope they continue. And every decision you made was wrong. Well, Tekken Tech 2 came out right afterwards. It was way better. Yeah. I hope they continue doing them, but Harada is, like, fucking doing shit to Ono, and I was like, stop! But get out of my life!

And he's, like, popping his tire wheels and shit. Exactly. Wait, why is Ono laughing? That's the sad version. And then at the last second, like, Inagaki jumps in for the three-way punch. Kills both of them with a katana. And then everyone's like, who are you? Yeah, pretty much.

So, no, he punches Harada, and then Inagaki just melts into the floor. Into a giant cookie. No, he's glad his shades shatter like Wesker, and his face just falls off. Yeah, his whole body just melts into a Kasumi busty mouse pad on the floor. So this just in best friend's news, breaking news, Inagaki is melting. And he doesn't want to miss a thing. He starts crying. What are your five most hated games, Inagaki?

Tech in one, Tech in two, Tech in three, Tech in four, Tech in five. And a special note, but it hasn't come out yet. Tech in six. I love that. Never change. Yes. Inagaki is the most scumbag motherfucker ever. You never change.

Do you remember the first time you saw that interview, and you're like, wait, this was a joke. And then you read it again, and you're like, whoa, that's the funniest shit I've ever seen. We couldn't get an interview with him, so we had to bring him a bottle of tequila. Tom and Oboe, Inagaki is the easiest person in game development to make fun of. Because every single encounter with him by anyone has always turned out to be a horrible nightmare stereotype. Not great. When you told me he ran into the American press, and he's got a sword, and he's drunk. Yeah, they brought him a bottle of tequila, and then he walks in, and they go to ask him about his game,

and he's like, pulls out a katana, and goes, you guys like Japanese swords? And he's holding a katana in one arm, and a bottle of tequila in the other. Yeah. And then this guy is the guy pioneering independent boob physics, and then he gets shit canned because he molested a secretary, and you're like, no shit, Inagaki was a sexual harasser. You don't say. Yeah.

And then he sits in his house all day listening to Aerosmith songs on repeat, but he's so dedicated to his scumbaggery, you have to salute it. You got a big boss that shit, you know? My favorite Inagaki thing is when he was sort of trotted out for an Xbox 3 thing, and it was also when they unveiled Kinect. Yeah, that's right. And they had all the Cirque du Soleil people masturbating to how great Kinect is, and everyone had to wear tarps for something.

The ponchos. Yeah, ponchos. And then it was an American guy saying, I then saw Inagaki put on the poncho, look around, pull off the poncho, and leave the city. That's great. Like, he didn't understand what was going on, and just said, fuck it. Yeah. Please get excited for Devil's Third.

A game that's being published by no one and nothing because Toy Head Quarters is gone. Yeah. Well, someone picked it up. Like Valhalla picked it up for some shit. Yeah, but they probably did. They probably picked up the name and said, no, it again. You know what? If anything ever comes of it, if anything never comes of it.

Yeah, it didn't look good. There was a little bit of footage, it looked really bad. Super early Devil's Third. If anything comes from it. So guess what our anime news is about this week? What's it about? Fucking Bayonetta. Oh my god.

So I did not see, I didn't watch the Devil May Cry anime. I didn't watch it. You know what? You know what? Don't. I know. It's really bad. I know.

I watched the whole thing, and all I could think of is, wow, he doesn't fight a single thing in this entire anime. So why did I still get really excited when I saw this? Because it's Bayonetta. Because it's an anime starring Sega's Bayonetta. Yes. A phrase that made me really upset. Platinum Games isn't anywhere on any of that material. They don't really have anything to do with it.

It's all Sega. Camilla should be a character in that show. Who did Devil May Cry again? I have no idea. I used to know. Well, Studio Gonzo's anime. This is Gonzo. And that's not a great site.

They did Strike Witches. Oh, yeah. And Burst Angel. They did Backeretsu Tenshi. Gonzo is not a great site. It looks nice. They did Full Metal Panic. That was like 15 years ago.

The first Full Metal Panic. Not the second one. That was like 20 years ago. I know. Why did you change a date five years ago? Because then he said the first Full Metal Panic. But also Aphrosanterai. Aphrosanterai was pretty good.

It looks nice. It's one of the worst animes. But it looks nice. Yeah, but I'm not going to watch a Bayonetta anime for the plot. But anyway, I only watched the trailer once. I remember seeing a bit where she does a Wicked Weave or a Summon, whatever. And her hair doesn't come off. I don't need to see her naked.

But why is she going purple and doing that? Like she should be naked there. Well, you know they're going to do the Magical Girl transformation thing. No, they showed off the transformation. But then when she did that, the hair wasn't coming off. Because it's hard to animate. Exactly. That's a sign of why we should be wary of this thing.

I thought the sign of why we should be wary is the words Bayonetta anime. Whatever. I'll watch it. I don't know who Gretchen IG is. You were just talking about how the Devil May Cry anime was garbage. I know, I know. We were talking about the Devil May Cry anime like 10, 12 years ago. Again, it had been production IG.

We should be excited for this. I want Madhouse to do it. I was going to say, if the headline was Madhouse Acquires Bayonetta, right? Then you go, oh shit. Right? Put Bayonetta in the car. Gainax who would never do anything like that. Why would they?

But if you mean like Hattie and Stalking that's just like that? No, it means like take a license. Oh yeah, they make all their own stuff. Gainax has way too many creative people on their own. Like they have no reason to do anything. And way too many creative people ruining products they already have. And to Gainax, Bayonetta is like all that simple little thing when that crazy happens. That's never going to end up in a fucking Louvre.

Yeah. That's impressive. Only the Gainax with Bayonetta seem like a really quaint idea. So Bayonetta anime, we're all kind of ambivalent, but we're going to watch it day one. It's a movie, right? I'm going to wait for you guys to watch it and then tell me how lucky I was for not watching it. Like you just told me what Devil May Cry? Yeah.

Yeah, okay. But more because I won't watch it at all. And I guess Rel related, I forgot to bring it up earlier, but the thing that they announced that comes out like four days after the Attack on Titan game is the Attack on Titan OVA. Yeah. Which is interesting because it shows like apparently it's about some girl in Rome. No, here's what it's going to be. It's going to be the same as every anime OVA for every manga adaptation ever. It's going to be a side story that doesn't matter for 70 minutes.

And then you're going to get to that last 20 minutes and they're going to blow the entire movie's budget in a giant action scene. Yeah, yeah. And you're going to come out going, wow, that was awesome. And forget the first two thirds were garbage. As for the usual. The trailer just showed me. And it'll be not canon. The trailer showed Levi.

So I'm like, Levi's adventures in being the tiniest sword ever. Yeah, our news at 11. We'll see. I got some anime news. What's your anime news? The new season of Hajime no Ippo comes out October 5th. Oh, really? Hajime no Ippo Rising.

That's what it's called. Shit. Because in the previous series it was called New Challenger. This one's 25 episodes. I'm super hyped. I don't know how to look up anime like subs when they're new. I'll teach you. We never stop.

I always look when it's done and I can find them all super easily. Yeah. What Google, Hajime no Ippo. Torrenting is still a thing. I don't know. And no one knows. No one knows what arc of the manga that I think you all agree. That it should be the arc where a guy's got a wolf on his face.

You're such a sick. Yeah. Dude, you're like Marge. You're like, oh, that's cool. Do kids still say that? Yeah, I know. Yes. All you kids with your anime.

Yeah. What's going on on the matte watch? A very specific and very short matte watch. And it's not a happy one. It's more or less a very angry one. Oh no. And I'm currently stalking fucking Liam. Because he keeps putting a Sora's Wrath in my Wii.

It's like the third fucking time. Wait, in your Wii? Yeah. Yeah. Every time after we play our current playthrough, they just went up yesterday. Beautiful Joe. This motherfucker puts a Sora's Wrath inside my Wii for some reason. And every time I pop it out, I lose my fucking mind.

Well, the first two times you did it, you told me you were like, what the fuck am I doing with my Wii? Yeah, what am I doing? Oh, you're going nuts. Wait, no. I'm just walking and putting a Sora's Wrath in my fucking Wii. It's so weird, Joe. He just ejected Smash Brothers and I was like, oh, I hope it's in there now.

No, a Sora's right here in the stack. It'll be in there by the end of the night. Fucking annoying. Keep doing it. Because it riles me up. It rustles your jimmies pretty good. So I'm stalking Liam. To make sure I keep doing this.

I'll fucking throw like a baseball animal. That's the weirdest asshole thing to do I've heard in years. You gotta keep an eye on this kid. Because I can imagine. You just pop the disc and you go, ah, fuck. And also, it is in the wrong system. How crazy am I getting? What does it mean?

Indigo prophecy is damaging your mind. Yeah, I guess so. Hey guys, it's letter time. Oh my god. It's letter time. I forgot about this. Do you guys like this part of the show? I like it a lot.

It's a very good part of the show. It's solid. Why do you like it, Pat? I don't know. I like hearing the dumb questions. Can I make it a damn dumb? You know what my favorite part of this is? Is watching you as you scroll down the questions.

Making idle small talk as you go by 30 terrible questions. Yeah, yeah. And before you get to one good one, that's my favorite part. Just blast past it. He's like, um, so, uh, Jimmy. Can I just make an addendum to an answer I made last time? Yeah, go for it. So someone asked a question about visual novels.

And I had a really critical answer. This has been burning on your mind for a week. Because there was a very specific Tumblr post. You're out there, you're gonna know it's your Tumblr post. We're talking about you. I feel, I think it was, I feel betrayed or something by my answer. And I want to kind of explain that because visual novels are broad and I'm not a pro on them. Oh god, we don't care.

When I went to Japan and I went to video game stores, there's, you know, floors dedicated to visual novels. And more than half of them are... What was the question, Liam? It was, do you play visual novels? Do you like them? I said no, most of them are terrible and like just aren't as good as books. Because nobody knows what's going on. That's an accurate statement.

That's an accurate statement. The reason I stand by that. The reason I stand by that is because more than half of them are just centered around porn. And I'm not gonna play more than half of them. As all mediums should be. True that. But I'm not gonna play half of them to justify that. I really feel it.

It's okay, Liam. Because the way they're set up, like how much variation if you're like a super pervert, and a visual novel. Exactly. If you were to send a question in that will cause Liam to not shut the fuck up for two episodes, where would you send that question? Super best friendcast at gmail.com. I'm sorry, I need to say it again.

Super best friendcast at gmail.com. Speaking of variation and stuff getting old, when is this gonna, is this ever gonna change? Until someone makes me stop until you step up to the plate and do it yourself. You're never up to it, man. As soon as we get to emails you just start to shrivel up. Yeah, because like this is such a sad joke that's going on waiting for you. Man, fuck you in your shirt. I think met cynicism about the presentation of the email is annoying.

Send it where, will it? Super best friendcast at gmail.com. And you might sound something like this. Phillip asks, hey guys, what's the stupidest day one by of your life? Oh god. I want to start with, remember me, but let's go round table so I can get this one again. Alright, not for work. No, not for this joke.

No, for actual purchase. Yeah. The dumbest day one purchase and Liam was right there with me because he will know was Final Fantasy All the Bravest. Oh. Because that was not just day one. Yeah, please explain our story. You guys fucking set us up the bomb. I didn't do it.

Shit you fucked off. By saying, oh man, Willy loves All the Bravest and all that bullshit. Yeah, because he bought it. Because he's a trod. Yeah, there's a story. So one reason we bought this kid. So what happened was we saw that the minute it went up, we saw it in the iOS store. Within seconds.

Yeah. The first, and we were like, what is this? And then your corporate master was like, maybe you should buy this. Final Fantasy All the Bravest, no ratings. And we saw a screenshot with a ton of dude slashing and we're like, okay, what is this thing? This looks cool. And bought it. Yeah.

And then like a couple hours later, the article started coming out and the review the next, like couple days going like, please don't buy this game. No, that's the noise. That's the noise. If you've never played All the Bravest, by the way, I don't. But second off, it's you just rubbing your screen. You rub your finger on the screen. You remember we were just sitting there just like working and just doing that.

No, I didn't know you could rub. So I was tapping them individually. Yeah, we were both tapping for the first time. Okay, where's the game? Is this going to start? Yeah. I have a question. Why would you ever buy like a franchise on an iOS device?

You know what I mean? It's always turning out to be bullshit. Final Fantasy Dimensions. The only one I've ever bought that and turned out to be legit was Chrono Trigger on iOS. I thought you were going to say Double May Cry. The Double May Cry game was also actually pretty good. I bought the Double May Cry your friend. Those two were rad.

But those are the exception to the one. Final Fantasy Dimensions. I don't even know what that is. That's the original Final Fantasy SNES like RPG on iOS. That's episodic and good. Chrono Trigger is the only one that Square Enix didn't fuck up with the new art style. The thing with ATV is of course in the end it's one of the worst. It's fucking god, don't waste your money.

It's the worst. But it has some really funny in-jokes in the writing. But now it's going to be free to play guys so you won't even have to buy it again. Only on Android. Streaming to your stream box. So yes, I think we fucking get excused because that was minute one. Minute one. Still big regret on that dollar.

That was mine. Do you have a different answer or is that your answer? Cross edge. Which was a Nipponichi software game by I think Idea Factory. It was a crossover of Nipponichi software, Capcom, Namco. Those three. And I was just like yo, I like all these characters. Let's go in and I bought it and fucking in Nisa's shipping I spent like 78 bucks and

I received it and I played it for like five hours and it was garbage. I can't believe people got the Platinum Trophy in that game which involved like two hours. Everyone always gets the Platinum Trophy. That game is not good. I'm going to go with two answers because it depends. The most objectively terrible thing was Indigo Prophecy, day one. That's like a gray area because we all... We were hyped and then it just shat my face and continued to shit in my face non-stop for 12 hours.

But the offset of the expectations. The dumbest one with the most money was I bought a PS3 for Final Fantasy XIII. That's what made you buy it. I assume it was MGS4. It was. It was. I had already beaten MGS4 at Woolie's house when he was borrowing Rockies PS3. Yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah, it saved us all tons of money for a year. Fuck it. I'm going to tell this story. So I go over to Woolie's house and he had just finished borrowing our friend Rockies PS3 to play MGS4 soon after release.

Yeah. We were all terrified as spoilers. And I walked over there and I said, hey man, how long do you have that PS3 for? He says, till tomorrow. He says, what if I just sit on this couch and just beat the game? And you went, yeah. And he goes, okay. And goes to bed.

And then at like two in the afternoon the next day I beat MGS4 in a single sitting and was really tired. How did you watch all those cut scenes? Intently. That's fucking ridiculous. Were you there when I got up? Yeah. No, I walked in and you were just beating it. And this is like, hey, how long are you?

Yeah, yeah. Because I bought MGS4, the special edition for myself with the PS3 I did not own. Yeah. That was so hyped. And I was the first one to borrow Rockies PS3. Everyone wanted to play this game, but no one wanted to buy the console for it. Yeah. And then I finished or whatever, but that's not my answer.

My answer is kind of, okay, is this actually day one or close to day one? Day one. Oh, sorry. Also, just to note, you were playing my purchased copy of MGS4, mind you, because I bought it. Yeah. So my console attachment rate is minus. Isn't it negative? Yeah.

But anyway, gone. Is it got to be sort of day one, I guess? Day one. Yeah. Okay. The question says day one, man. All right. Well, I'm going to say day one is probably just because it was embarrassing, not embarrassing

to go on the line, but I bought the Game of Thrones RPG that he did an episode for. I remember that. Full price. And it was the reason why it's so memorable is because it was on the day the Diablo 3 launched. So there's this ginormous line of sweaty nerds. But that's for work, man. What about for you? Like a mistake that you made.

It must be huge work. If you have something close enough, we'll take it. Sonic 4, episode two. I got those extra points. I remember they sent me a shitload of points. I was like, what can I play? Sonic. And I'm like, this is the worst boss battle I've seen in my life.

I never touched it. And I got really angry. My hatred for new Sonic renewed. Sonic 4 is pretty rough. When an episodic title is coming out, as each one continues to be disappointing, you're allowed to hate it twice as much. It's exponential. It's exponential.

Absolutely. Yeah. So Sonic 4, episode two, was just like all the salt in the world on the biggest gaping, oozing wound ever that is my fan-ness of Sonic. Remember in Sonic 1, when they showed that mine cart level where you hold the triggers to do something? Yeah. Well, they didn't show that.

That got stolen off a partner net and then dude put up that footage and it just tanked the game. Yeah. Oh man. Jesus. Ryan asks, merchandise idea for your nerds, can we get a shirt or something that says pie cheat steel? That's pretty good.

That's pretty good. That's pretty good. I didn't really like it. That is the official like star that email. It's star. And keep it. Because that's actually a pretty decent idea. To make the podcast worth, not worthless, not just a little bit extra because we don't

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