Castle Super Beast - SBFC 012: We Gotta Get Back to Space!

Episode Date: October 29, 2013

This week, we're talking about all the jogos. Watchdogs delay and the effect it has on next gen launch, Pokemerns everywhere, Tales games being pumped out faster that they can be translated, Phoenix W...right, Guilty Gear Xrd and Ultra SF4!Got a question for us? Send it to: superbestfriendcast@gmail.com

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's behind the couch. Why is it behind the couch? Behind the couch because it's a shy cat. Is it gonna like fucking just jump on the mic and like start humping it? No. You taught it to stay behind the couch. You will more likely do that than the cat. Is it gonna do aerial piss combos?
Starting point is 00:00:29 No, I was gonna say last week you had that... I'm thinking about doing that. You had that hilarious thing where you're like, Matt, say goodbye to all your action figures on your shelf. I've realized that you guys have destroyed more of my action figures by simply handling them than the cat. Says you. Well, you touched my...
Starting point is 00:00:44 The vanquish crumbled in your hand. The vanquish crumbled? The vanquish. But you know what? Reality also has made your toys crumble. You just look at them the wrong way on the shelf and they don't die. Will this count if we pick the cat up and throw it? You would have to give video evidence of that happening to the cat.
Starting point is 00:01:04 So he looked the cat in it. Everything would fall and break and Venom would stand alone. He really would. Maybe the predator, but yeah, Venom would stand alone, no pressure. That Rex is fucking done. I was gonna say that Venom, that Venom is the, is you can equate that with the thinker statue from all the Phoenix Wright games. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:23 Because it's super heavy, you can kill someone with it. It's a murder weapon. It's a murder weapon. It's got the fuck in it. Yeah, I know. I wish the thinker. Imagine if it was a clock, or Venom's like a five o'clock, we say it's 5 p.m. Or whatever.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Are you ruining my career, Spider-Man? The most sinister father of the cat. The most sinister father of the cat. Time to hate Spider-Man. The most sinister father of the cat. What? Looping around. Looping around.
Starting point is 00:01:45 We saw a cat. It's gonna, it's gonna jump out from behind you and bite your neck and you're gonna die alive. And then Liam will become a cat. No, that's not how it works. That's not how it works. That's not how it works. Vampire cats.
Starting point is 00:01:55 The new evolution. Vampire cats? Yeah. Why would an animal biting you turn you into a vampire? Why wouldn't you just say cat boy at that point? No, because I just don't say that. Really? Really?
Starting point is 00:02:09 Don't say that. Maybe they're all reverse vampires and they have to get home before dark. Reverse vampires! Welcome to the cat boy cast. There's a picture on the wall on the Facebook right now of someone going, hey look, I found Liam and it's some cat boy person doing like a weird pose. So it's already there. Oh, I don't deny it.
Starting point is 00:02:31 What do you mean by cat boy? I don't know. I just thought it was a cat cosplay. He's got a tail and stuff. Oh, you mean like actually it might be a girl. Okay, we're not sure. Yeah, well, these things happen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Alright, what's going on with you guys? That's too angry. Yeah, we had a big argument. We just fucking, yeah. It wasn't even an argument. It was a debate to the free debate of the debate. Okay, wait, wait. It was a three on one.
Starting point is 00:02:58 But that one's going to filibuster that shit. We don't have to listen to filibuster it. That just shat his pants and refused to leave. I'm not leaving. You're just having to deal with it or hose me off yourself. I'm not leaving until someone wipes me. What did I do this week? Not much, man.
Starting point is 00:03:17 I watched a lot of MythBusters. That's a good thing to watch. And every, Matt and I were talking about this on the way over here. It's like, we're watching, I'm watching MythBusters. And every single time Carrie Byron comes on the screen, I just go, damn. Yeah? So hot.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Yeah, okay. But no, MythBusters is awesome. And I bought a 2DS, which I previously made tons of fun of on this podcast. But it's so nice. But it's so nice. I made fun of it because it looks like this dumb tiny cake thing. But then I got it because I was looking at my girlfriend's 3DS, which is the original.
Starting point is 00:03:49 And her Pokemon looks so much nicer than mine because of the pixel density. And then I saw the 2DS. I'm like, that actually looks really comfortable. So I went out and got one and was like, I really like this one the best out of all the 3DS versions. The word on this treat is it makes your games look better. It makes them look like the original one did, which everyone forgot about because we're all used to the XL's giant size.
Starting point is 00:04:11 And once you got used to the XL stretching the picture, when you go back to the smaller screen size, it looks like the game's running at a higher resolution. No, it's beautiful. It's so dumb. It's so stupid. It's so dumb. Sorry, I was just going to try them in there.
Starting point is 00:04:28 When someone had an original 3DS and they held it again, this is the worst console ever. Absolutely. But when they held Pat's 2DS, I was like, this isn't that bad of a feel down. So I'm struck by the irony because I remember back, I don't know if it was on podcast, but I was talking shit about the 2DS like, ah, look at this dumb cake thing for games.
Starting point is 00:04:45 And then right after that, I said, I really wish they would just make a 2DS an XL light, where it's the XL's like aesthetics and feel and the original screen sizes and fuck 3D, I don't care about 3D. And that's what the 2DS is. Nintendo makes the Wii U 2. It's just going to be a tablet that's twice as small, but it looks twice as big.
Starting point is 00:05:11 And it'll be way more comfortable and look twice as good. You're totally right. That would be way better. The Wii U gamepad at half the size would be way better. You skip this entire 720, 1080, 900p argument by just shrinking your screen size. Just screen down. Nintendo tech.
Starting point is 00:05:27 I tried it today at work. It's so nice. It's so comfortable. I think I'm going to get one. One of the best shoulder buttons of any hand held of all time. You said Liam. I think you said you wanted to buy one for your little brother, no? I want to for the holidays.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Spoilers for him. Don't listen to this, Liam Jr. What do you mean, Liam Jr.? I mean, Liam's dad Jr. Oh good. There we go. That's what he's called. How'd you know?
Starting point is 00:05:56 Yeah, I still think I'm going to get one for him for the holidays. You're just going to like... Only now I might pick one up for myself. Yeah. Or fuck him. Just keep it. And you can't beat that price. It's really nice.
Starting point is 00:06:07 It's super cheap. It's 130. In Europe it dropped to 100. Yeah, it dropped to 100. And then I picked up... I might wait. I picked up because, you know, no clamshell. So I'm like, well, you need a case for this.
Starting point is 00:06:17 You need a case for that. The case that Nintendo sells is like 12 bucks. And it's the best case I've ever used with a hand held. It's so perfect. It's the exact same size as the 2DS. So there's no situation in which you can't fit the whole thing with the case in the same pocket or whatever that you would not be able to fit the 2DS. Is it a soft case or a hard case?
Starting point is 00:06:38 It's a soft... I have it here. So if you get like coat... Fuck it. It's really... It's super soft. And the inside seems like it's made out of microfiber. It's soft, but the 2DS is so damn durable.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Like you throw it off this building and it would be fine. It would be fine, but your screen would be fucked. And also your screen would not be fucked. Except that there's been articles about here's a cracked 2DS screen going right down the middle because it's one big screen. And that one big screen fixes what is my most hated thing about the XL and the original 3DS is that they use shitty left over screens from mobile phones. This is a quality change.
Starting point is 00:07:16 And sometimes you'll get the top screen and the bottom screen have different color temperatures. The top one or the bottom one is a little more yellow than the other one. Now, if they're both the same, who gives a shit? But mine are not on my XL. So whenever there's a white scrolling thing, I get to look... Oh, my screen's so fucking yellow. It looks so bad. But with the 2DS, it's one screen.
Starting point is 00:07:38 So there's no way to have different color temperatures because it's the one screen. To move them all. Yeah, exactly. If you go back to the original DS, the fact... Before we got DS5... What a piece of shit. Man, it's the worst ever. It's the worst ever.
Starting point is 00:07:52 It's not that much different than the Tigard... It's a TI calculator. It looks hideous. And it was super dark. We were talking about the FMVs and Metroid Prime Hunters. Yeah. How it separated the f... Because it was a ginormous f.
Starting point is 00:08:06 There were FMVs in that game? Yeah. I couldn't see them. But there was like 2 inches between the top and bottom screens. More like 4 inches. But they counted them as one screen for the FMV. So it looked like a complete mess. But that was only in first hunt.
Starting point is 00:08:24 They fixed that for the actual game. And then with the 2DS, that's a weird side effect. You know when you go on the options menu and you scroll a Yula or something? And it counts it as one screen. Because it's completely flat. And the difference between the two screens is maybe a centimeter. It looks a lot more natural. It looks like there's just a little separation.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Well, that's what struck me. It's less than a centimeter. It's tiny. It's really small. I would almost imagine some games would suffer because they spaced it properly for the 3DS. Nah, that's fine. But like, I don't give a shit. And who gives a shit about 3D on that thing?
Starting point is 00:08:55 Sure, exactly. I mean, it's fun. But you know what? I'm down for 3DS. It's fun but it's impossible to use. Because you're going, ah, ah, the perfect spot. That's one degree. I never had that trouble, whatever.
Starting point is 00:09:07 What have you been doing, Liam? Really not much. I've been playing The Destiny of Spirits Beta. Which is pretty... It's the Vita F2P game that Sony Japan's making with Q Entertainment. Really baffled that I never heard of this. That's absolutely okay. Is it Panopticon?
Starting point is 00:09:21 No. Boy, do I wish I was in the Panopticon beta. Q Entertainment. That's a good name. Yeah, no. It's good. I mean, it's one of those stupid cell phone collect creature games. It's fun and it's free.
Starting point is 00:09:31 So it's like, I'm not gonna... It's fun. That's the end of the thing. Have you put any money into it? You just called it stupid. You can't just beta. Good. There's no money.
Starting point is 00:09:39 But it's fine then, right? Yeah. I mean, at the end of the day, I'm having fun with this or whatever. I got to the Dark Souls 2 beta test. Yes, so did I. I didn't play it for a second, but... No, you guys can't. No, you can't.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Exactly. Fuck. Yeah. Oh my God. At least they came out and said they're gonna get it back up for life. Fuck that. They came at... Okay, here's the deal.
Starting point is 00:09:59 The European and Japanese players could sign up and be like, hey, put me in the beta. Yeah. If we're North America, they just put out a public code and said whoever gets it. Whoever gets it, master risk, first 90 hours. Right? So then everyone gets it. And then they say, okay, guys, the test starts at 2 AM on a Saturday. And you go, well, fuck.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Yeah. Okay. And then you stay up, and then you find out that they poorly translated that. And it actually starts at 3 AM. And then you wait up till 3 AM. And then they go, whoops, we fucked up the patching. North America and South America can't play. By the way, Pat, you're welcome, buddy.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Yeah, well, I really appreciated you sending me that code. I still appreciate it. Wow, fuck, Namco of the United States or North America. I'd tell her like a month from now. And then they said we're going to do it next week. Guess what? Also at 3 AM. Until, until you can play it.
Starting point is 00:10:51 At which point you'll be making giddy noises. No, I'm not going to stop hitting Namco. Oh, love from software. Fine, yeah. But Namco is a bunch of shit. That fucking mirror knight can't wait to fight that guy. I'm surprised that they keep making it a consistent Saturday and not like, man, Tuesday, Saturday. You literally don't work whatever day.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Like fucking 2 AM. Everyone's claiming to shut down the country now, basically. They're all like, we got to pick weird days, lest we fuck something up. The only other thing I really did that was like significant was watch Kill the Kill. Which was great! We all watched it together, actually. Oh, you guys watched it together? Yeah, yep.
Starting point is 00:11:28 You weren't there. You weren't there. It wasn't time to get enough oil. Fuckers. There actually was. But yeah, that show just keeps going up and down and up and down. You mean up and up and up and up and up? Yeah, well, no, no.
Starting point is 00:11:41 When I say up and down, I don't mean 120. Or do you mean case? Like 90. And then like, you know. But after seeing four, I figured it out. I realized, yeah, you did. The thing with how do you want up Gurren Lagann? You can't, right?
Starting point is 00:11:55 But what you do is you make the same level of like epic craziness about shit that doesn't matter. Like being tardy. Like forever a tardy student. Yeah, forever a tardy student. It's same with the same magnitude as Lord Genome like protecting humanity from the antispirals. What I will say is if any show can one up Gurren Lagann, it's this. It's gone for it. Because this is episode four of what?
Starting point is 00:12:19 26? But when we get to space, it's going to be over stupidity. And we can all agree that there's only one way to go and that's to space. That's the only place you can ever go. Spoilers for Kill La Kill, they're going to go to space. Or like deep into hell. You go all the way up or all the way down. I guess both polar opposites are going to be like the school field trip.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Let's go to hell. I don't know. Maybe not because it was pretty serious in the third episode where they were just like I fucking hate you. Oh, I hate you too. And then they're like you're going to fight all the dudes. Yeah. The third episode, which I totally forgot to mention last week.
Starting point is 00:12:58 You're going to fight all the dudes. Amazing when she got her costume. It looks like the final episode of anything else. Exactly. But that's how you do it though. And it's like MQ2 versus... It's following the exact same path that's going on. The first one you're like yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:12 And the second one you're like yeah. And the third one you're like oh my god. I feel like even Gurren wasn't at this pinnacle that early on. Not this early. Okay, episode three. No, but the first moment he punches Enki, takes his helmet and puts it on. You're screaming. You fucking lose it.
Starting point is 00:13:31 It's awesome. That's one moment out of the same episode. And then episode four is like a laid back non-fighting episode. Whereas there is no episode four in Gurren. Yeah, exactly. Gurren doesn't have an episode four. I will say this. My favorite quiet moment in Gurren is actually when they first burst out of the ground.
Starting point is 00:13:51 And you get to see the two sons. And it's such an awesome shot. They never get that quiet again. No. And I'm waiting for that moment. They're doing the same. They do like right before the thing with Kamina. And you know.
Starting point is 00:14:06 No, but I know what he means. Like just a scenic quiet moment. Everyone just takes a break. And the next episode is going to follow the same path where episode five is where you introduce a new character that will stay on the cast for the whole time as part of the hero team. And that new character will, I'm going to guess, exist to assert some level of gravity to the situation that was not previously there. Of course.
Starting point is 00:14:33 In Gurren, it was Roshu. Right? You were like, oh, well, we're going to do it. And then Roshu's like, it's fucking rough up here. Yeah, it's not great. And then this new character Trigger, whatever the name is, is probably going to do the same. It's like, yeah, you're fighting in school and all that, but the world is destroyed or something. We've already established it.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Teacher guy is the Yoko. Yeah. Oh, man, he's great. Mako is Kamina, gives the speech, and then the hero powers up. And then Mikasugi, the teacher, is Yoko, but for girls. So does this mean that Guts the dog is going to turn into a crazy fucking badass at the end? That's exactly what it quite probably means. That means Mako's family is like the Jiha village.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Right. They're going to put a little dog hoodie camui on Guts. Yeah! Absolutely. That show is so good. It's so good. Matt, what have you been doing? Me being the industry mover and shaker that I am.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Fucking enough with the premise for once. Just go. He pays the bills round here. Seriously though, Matt, can you please change your fucking voicemail? Anyway. It's so infuriated. This motherfucker's voicemail. Hey, welcome to Best Friends Enterprises.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Yeah, I might get back to you because I'm a douche. This is so good. When all of that facts stop being true, then I'll change it, right? So anyway, let me finish. I went to the Batman Ark Morgan's launch party. Yeah, you did. I went to one of the most exclusive clubs in our city. Geez, you went far.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Well, one, two, three, four. Its address is one, two, three, four. That's the actual street address. And the club is Sank. The club is called the Sank. Yes. It's pretty exclusive. The red carpet rolls out onto the street.
Starting point is 00:16:19 That's sturdy. Yeah. The doorman is chomping on a ginormous cigar. Yeah. So that's what I was like. This is pretty good. So you went to a place where you wouldn't be surprised if Batman showed up and started hitting people? Guess what?
Starting point is 00:16:32 He was actually there. He was there. He had this lifelike Batman statue in front of like, you know what you see? A Hollywood red carpet thing. And they have like the big sign that has the logos of everyone that was involved with like the movie or the game. And it had that and it had like fucking paparazzi and I'm like... That was on Batman?
Starting point is 00:16:48 And it was all on Batman. And you know, you go in there and this club used to be a church. So I really felt at any minute Wesley Snakes would drop down and just start hitting people. Yeah. Or whatever. Break through the glass. Exactly. Or Batman, whatever.
Starting point is 00:17:03 I tell you to use it. And I forgot. Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice skate up here. Some motherfuckers are always trying to rip off Rocksteady. Anyway. It was really kind of weird because I met tons of people I'd forgotten about that I had worked with like years ago in QA and then I'm like, oh my God, you're here too? And I was like, yeah, whatever.
Starting point is 00:17:22 How'd you get in? I got in. I also met the nice young man. Selected his way to the top. I really did. I totally did. I met the young man that actually donated our current OG Xbox that we have right now. So any sort of Xbox only games to thank for him.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Also, I didn't play in a lot of fucking ace attorney dual destinies. I was hoping someone knows it. It's actually way, way better than I thought because I was worried after playing the E3 build and the demo. I'm like, oh, well, you know, this kind of sucks is because it was Phoenix going, oh God, I forgot how the lawyer and being like, oh, I've got butterflies in my stomach and that's just the demo. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:07 We started off and it's completely different. Cool. And then there's Athena and Phoenix just comes in like a badass stomps down the door and says, yo, I'm here to solve the problem. That's awesome. And I'm like, thank God, because that's what I was worried about in dual destinies. Just like Apollo looks amazing in dual destinies. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Something really. Did you see the art of Apollo? Yeah. He's like, oh my God. Well, in the trailer that just came out, they showed like there's normal him and then something happens and then gets that form. And then they're clearly at odds with each other. So they're probably going to have a case against each other.
Starting point is 00:18:38 And I was telling Pat today about how they already have two characters that are like blue badger type characters. Oh, it's so good. And they're so dumb and good. It's like super stupid. I'm so excited. So everyone at work was playing Pokemon and this is the only other sound that's coming out of three years now.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Hold it. Hold it sound, you know. Objections. And I guess like I was playing a lot of TMNT out of the shadows because I will officially announce here we will not be doing that game in any form. Thank you. Thank you. It's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:19:08 I want to maybe we'll talk about this later, but if we have a second. It's probably the buggiest game I've played in a long, long time. And there is no news on a patch. It's not as though we don't like playing. There's some cool stuff going on. I was hoping it would be a good four player game. Now when it came out the end of August, there's no word on a patch. And when I put in like TMNT glitches or whatever bugs into Google, just a million zillion results
Starting point is 00:19:35 of people just freaking out. Now when you say buggy, do you mean like as to be uncompletable? In my situation right now? Yes. Great. Awesome. Thanks Darksiders team. Thanks and shout outs to the guys who put fucking matte art and pat artwork on the walls
Starting point is 00:19:55 of the texture in the game. Well now I feel like an asshole. You should have known. I was trying to dig it to you. I was going to say, this is clearly an issue on Activision's side. When I played it at E3 and I talked to someone, they're like, you know, the builds are going out and we kind of need like we're trying to make a deadline and stuff like that. So, you know, Activision as we all know loves to.
Starting point is 00:20:25 I would like to apologize. I'm sorry. I am aware that like crippling bug scenarios like this are always because the publisher says, nah, nah, don't work on it anymore. We're not going to pay you. I like the fact that they dropped T-U-R-T-L-E-PAL. Yeah, I was going to say, we did play it and we love the music. There's so much about the game that's really good.
Starting point is 00:20:48 But like, we're going to play the arcade mode and the arcade mode seems fine. But I must complete the single player. I put into five hours of it. I've gotten to the third level. There's seven levels. This reminds me of what happened with New Vegas when it came out. That first month when New Vegas came out, that game was fucking broken. Like, completely fucking broken.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Like, not gold. Like, a patch came out like a month later and that made the game into like a gold state. And why? Because Bethesda said, nah, we're not going to pay you to work on patches. Just put it out. Just put it out. It's always the publisher's fault. Well, after five pieces of DLC on the last one, they're just kind of abusing them.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Yeah. Also the fact that the developer Redfly, who I really like, played their games Mushroom Men on the Wii and Mushroom Men. And the Ghostbusters Wii version. And I tested both those games and both of them, like, fine. No, like, it's not buggy at all. They also have a really good, like, iOS platformer where you can turn on and off gravity at will. The gameplay mechanic. So, like, you'll jump and you'll turn off gravity and you'll just keep going at that angle until you turn it back on.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Like, that frog from Crisis. But it's really fun. No, I love the frog from Crisis. I love that frog from Crisis. But yeah, it's really fun. You play as a little astronaut and, like, you jump around and stuff. It's cute. I really like Redfly too.
Starting point is 00:22:10 I think they're really underrated. The only other thing I did is I finished the Hannibal TV series. I was watching it with The Misses. And, okay, for all those that don't know, just really quickly, what happens in Silence of the Lambs? You talk to Hannibal Lecter because he's in jail. At the end of this first season, the hero gets sent to jail and Hannibal's all okay. And you're like, how the fuck is this gonna transition? So that's why I'm interested in seeing a second season.
Starting point is 00:22:36 It becomes Prison Break Season 8. It comes Prison Break Season 8 back to space. Yeah. Oh, man, I was watching that. And then the leprechaun is there back from the hood. Like, I know you're joking, but I'm just like... I read something and said, after this season of Prison Break, what could possibly happen? They gotta break into space.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Like, it doesn't make any sense. The phrase, back to space. Pull back to space. There's something about that that I'm just like, ooh, it feels good when I think about it. You gotta return to space. You're in there. As you know, there are seven sequels you missed. So yeah, that was me.
Starting point is 00:23:19 What about you? Oh, well, for me, I spent all weekend on the couch just playing Pokemon. I also play Pokemon. Those are really lazy. How many badges you got now? I have six badges in 50 hours. I have six badges in 35 hours. I'm taking my sweet-ass promise.
Starting point is 00:23:36 So here's the deal. I spoke to my girlfriend because she beat the game in under the time that we took to... A lot of people are just speeding through it. But I asked her, she's like, how? What? How was this... And I thought about it and I thought how I'm playing. And it's the difference between people who always go back to the Pokemon Center
Starting point is 00:23:54 and people who use potions. And just run forward. And as soon as I started using potions and heal items, because you have lots of cash, I started blowing through it. Even though I was still catching everything. See, for me, though, is that I'm taking my time and I don't mind. Because all I'm catching things, running back, leveling up. All I would say is that you will cut out...
Starting point is 00:24:13 All you will cut out by using potions and hyper potions and stuff is TDM. That's all you will remove. One of the things I want to point out also is your girlfriend and I, we're both like fucking... I haven't touched the game since launch weekend, but I played 13 hours and I got five badges. We play all the Pokemon games every time they come out. Yeah, you guys are nuts.
Starting point is 00:24:33 And we know everything. She's yelling at me because I don't know how to breed Pokemon. I think that's also one of the reasons is there's never a point... There's never a point where we're like a question mark. It's just like, oh, this gym is this. I better catch one of these. Why are you such a bitch? You just put a ditto and he fucks.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Like, I don't know, jeez. But I'm really bad at dittos today. But I'm also like taking the time to go, oh, this looks like it'll turn into something cool. Like, this is a cute version of something that might be badass. Let me level it up till it gets badass and just feel good about having it. I'll catch everything that I see and then when I'm done, I'll just look at Sarabee's chart and be like,
Starting point is 00:25:10 what do I have that I want to level up? I do it the opposite way, but I catch everything I see and then like, yeah, you look like you're fucking cool. This go-lurk is the coolest thing now. I'm rocking one of those. How luches the coolest thing. That too. How luches the coolest thing.
Starting point is 00:25:25 But yeah, no. So a bit of that and I tuned into the stream, the Sitch Farm stream. Yeah. I shagged back for a little bit. There was a stream. Yeah. That was kind of fun. I said what's up to everybody and like,
Starting point is 00:25:39 all I got from that were two things. I walked in on two things happening. Oh lord, yeah. One thing that was happening was Liam Milk. I don't know what that is. And I told them I don't want to know. I don't want to know what that is either. Don't even define it for me.
Starting point is 00:25:53 It's too good I am. I am 100% certain I've never uttered that phrase. I don't know what you guys. I don't know where that came from. I saw that you see that hilarious picture. Yeah. Which one? Because there's a couple.
Starting point is 00:26:06 There's a couple, yeah. But I know which one you're talking about. The pink one. Yeah. But I told them and they're like, and I'm like, look, I don't know what it is. I don't want to know. But I'm making a cannon.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Liam Milk is now a thing. And the other thing was butt selfies. Butt selfies? Butt selfies. Is that like, I got to feel like Matt and I had something to do with it. It's like taking a selfie, but you're doing with your butt.
Starting point is 00:26:25 You do it with your butt? No, with your butt. You know, like, of your butt. That's what I mean. Are mirrors involved? Probably not. Like mirrors should start doing that. Butt selfies in different locations.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Spoilers for this week's podcast preview. I remember those naked pictures of Scarlett Johansson came out and there's like, it's like shows her butt, shows a bit of her chest, and then someone just posted a picture of a crying eagle and says, September 13th, never forget. The day when Scarlett Johansson's things. And I remember seeing someone saying something about butt selfies there,
Starting point is 00:26:56 but I don't, we never said that. I've never taken a butt selfie. Going on record. That's a good thing. It's a hard stance. I know it's controversial. Right. You haven't done them yourself,
Starting point is 00:27:08 but you do approve of them. I do approve of them. All right. I'm very relieved you have taken this stance. Everybody, we like the butt selfies. Diffusing tense situations. Don't send us any butt selfies. That's not what we're saying.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Don't send us any butt selfies. That's not what we're saying. You know Plaguewell. There's some of you who should send us butt selfies. You know who you are. 18 and over please. Liam's like, yes. And where should we send these butt selfies to?
Starting point is 00:27:36 Super best friend. No! No! That's awful. Where was that? Don't send them. Don't send them to. Super best friend.
Starting point is 00:27:47 No! And she went like, Wally, what's new in the world this week? Wait, hold on. The other thing I'm doing is... Did you play the wonderful 101? I played a lot of that and that's fucking long. Where are you?
Starting point is 00:27:59 It's super long. I'm in chapter 5B. I haven't started the game yet. You haven't started the game. I haven't seen anything. It took me three hours to get from 4A to 5B. That game is fucking long. It's so big.
Starting point is 00:28:11 Super big. Oh my god. I remember we were told it wasn't. Yeah, Camille told us it wasn't. Camille, what he actually said was he just said people who are good will finish it quick. And remember when there was a little stink about, oh this game is going to be too short?
Starting point is 00:28:24 Yeah, and then his response was, I don't care if people beat my games quickly. If you look at my games for completion time, you'll always be disappointed. And then he puts out wonderful 101, which is like twice as long as everyone thought it was. Did he forget about Okami? All the rest, sure.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Oh great, that thing. And then for anybody who Okami the longest game ever. The longest best game ever. I could have done without that winter chapter. I really couldn't. I reveled in it. I was like, there's more. No, and to anyone who was around on Saturday night,
Starting point is 00:29:03 shout outs to the Reddit guys. I did a little AMA. I answered some questions. I think my favorite moment, because I checked in on that, to see if you were holding up the best friend standards. Oh, thank you. Thank you, sir.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Is someone saying, hey Woolly, what's the worst thing about your apartment? I was just thinking about this. And you go, your mom not leaving it. Yeah, I was pretty good. Classy, buddy. Thank you, thank you. We're very proud of you.
Starting point is 00:29:25 As if any of us would have said that. We'll see you in an AMA or a text situation. It's really easy, because you get to just stare at that for 10 minutes. And be like, yeah, this is what I'm going to say. But then it'll look spontaneous, so it'll look super smart. No, that was an instant response.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Oh, you just knew. That kind of felt like one of you. And you know what, I did a little pre AMA in the Shadrack thing too. So I think that's some other questions. This was fun. When are you going to do one of those, Matt? What about you, Liam?
Starting point is 00:29:53 They tell me to tell you. Who knows? Probably, let's say, you know, mid-November. It'll happen. But remember, you've got to give you some breathing room. Give me some breathing room. Oh, yeah. But you have to choose between going there
Starting point is 00:30:04 or going to V, or going to any of the other game places on the internet. Hey, no offense to V. It's just way easier to type stuff on Reddit. Yeah. Because people got upset about the fact that like, you and I, Pat, have done it on both at this point. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:20 V was a nightmare. The layout is so... I'm so used to it that when I did it on V, it was like snap, snap, snap. You're quoting a million people at the same time. It's more conducive. But people got upset because like, how dare you go to the red?
Starting point is 00:30:33 Yeah, but then you go to V. But again, it's less about it just being like a mess and more just like, are you used to it? No? Or is Reddit lowest commented on the internet? The other thing is on Reddit, you can click on like, will you are my name and see a list of every answer we gave.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Yeah. So for what it's worth, I think if we ever do go to the V things and do it, it's more unofficial just off the record quick here. And then the Reddit ones are like, here's the link. And to be fair, whoever the hell they got modding that new subreddit,
Starting point is 00:31:02 like has the dropdown bar with all the playthroughs? Yes. It's awesome. It's so well put together. I agree. And I saw like a plan that they have for like, what they want to do with AMAs like yours and mine, the way Louis C. K. did his.
Starting point is 00:31:14 It's crazy. Yeah. It's like a full fucking. And there's a big rule says, please stop posting creepy furry art of Pat. Always better rule. You will scare him away. That's when the new mod staff came in,
Starting point is 00:31:24 because I was like, I wonder what's happening on Reddit. That's a creepy picture of me overweight with the foxtail. Yeah. Mmm. Just like, wearing a diaper, I think. And I'm like,
Starting point is 00:31:34 didn't I scare you away as well? No, no, no. I just got tired. No, I just got tired. I was completely without a diet. And then I was like, tell me to never come back to Reddit. And they were like,
Starting point is 00:31:43 oh, we'll clean it up, Pat. All right. This week in gaming news. Stuff happened. Not just this week, but a lot of things, whatever. So yeah, Watch Dogs got delayed.
Starting point is 00:31:53 It really did, did it. So what can you tell us about that, Matt? I was like, when that hit, I was like, wow, that really sucks. And then when someone brought up the fact that I didn't even know that these existed,
Starting point is 00:32:03 because whatever, I don't really like. You're not buying your fucking bundle for you. Well, I was going to say, is that like, is everyone got fucked that ordered a PS4 Watch Dogs bundle?
Starting point is 00:32:14 Well, no one understood. It depends on the retailer. Right. Some of them figured it out in a constructive manner. And some people got fucked. Some people got fucked.
Starting point is 00:32:22 But like, some of them were like, well, ship you Watch Dogs when it comes out. You just pay the 460 upfront. Or some were like, we'll give you the option to switch, but we really have to sell a bundle here.
Starting point is 00:32:32 And some just canceled their pre-orders. Yes. All right. I want to take a moment to point and laugh at the idiots who are like, looks like they were scared of GTA.
Starting point is 00:32:42 These guys are fucking, they wanted to move away from it. No, they're scared of their own game that they're releasing at the same time, called Assassin's Creed 4. That has to, that has to factor a bit into it. Sure.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Because that happened to Ubisoft before. Yeah. Yeah. Prince of Persia, beyond good and evil, got destroyed by whatever Splinter Cell came out that year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Which is also a Ubisoft game. You don't want to create casualties of your own company. Especially when Watch Dogs and Assassin's Creed are like, really totally similar. And like, it would be the same thing
Starting point is 00:33:19 if they put out Watch Dogs alongside like Far Cry 4. One might even say Watch Dogs is the next generation's like, Assassin's Creed. Absolutely. Yeah, totally. Prince of Persia, Assassin's Creed,
Starting point is 00:33:30 Watch Dogs. And it's kind of a bummer that Assassin's Creed is just going to keep going, but hey, nothing we can do about that. Because it sucks. The last one. What was the actual ad
Starting point is 00:33:38 that they put out though? Two months in Los Santos is enough. Yeah, come to Chicago. Come to Chicago. And it was a tasteful ad. It was good. You know what?
Starting point is 00:33:47 I liked it, but like it says a lot about the delay is that that delay came from one person's decision. Yeah. Late. Yeah. Because ads were already running.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Yeah. But you know what? In this day and age, when we've got more than enough to fucking play games. Oh, totally. Yeah, that's the... Fallish Time is a godsend.
Starting point is 00:34:04 And that being said, like when Matt brought this up prior, we weren't talking about it in the pocket, but he said, when Watch Dogs got delayed, how many people still continued
Starting point is 00:34:13 to care about the next gen consoles? Exactly. Exactly. Because I don't know about you, but everyone I know getting one, Watch Dogs is the game they're getting. That launched,
Starting point is 00:34:21 dried up. Remember, you and me were talking about like what's coming out? What's coming out? What's coming out in the PS4? And you're like, well, watch...
Starting point is 00:34:29 Oh. Yeah. Well, the division, nope, not launch. Well, the order, not launch, everybody I know was Watch Dogs,
Starting point is 00:34:37 and either Call of Duty or Battlefield, whichever one they liked better. Yeah. And now it's down to Call of Duty or Battlefield. It's like, I'm buying an X-Gen system
Starting point is 00:34:47 to play Call of Duty or Battlefield. Yeah. And I mean, when I want to get down to it, like, for you and I at least, what's at launch that's really exciting?
Starting point is 00:34:56 Killer Instinct. Killer Instinct. Yeah, that's it. I don't know, I still think Knack looks fucking amazing. Now, I like the hands-on, I haven't seen Knack.
Starting point is 00:35:05 I'm not interested in that game at all, but I did see that article that you posted saying, like, this guy was going, wow, this game came out of nowhere, it's actually super good. On IGN or whatever it was. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:16 It's probably going to be like Crash Bandicoot, which means I'm going to get it, and I hope I'm not disappointed. No. So my launch lineup went from Watch Dogs, Knack and Battlefield, to
Starting point is 00:35:27 Knack, Battlefield, and AC4, I guess. Yeah. That's AC4 kind of. And then I, like, I totally ignored AC4 coverage entirely because Watch Dogs, and Watch Dogs looks better,
Starting point is 00:35:38 so why do I care about AC4? And then I looked up coverage of AC4, and all of it is like, it's way better than AC3, they totally fixed all the broken shit. AC4 looks really good. Can we take a second
Starting point is 00:35:48 to just, like, stroke the order for being third person? Where is the order? Next year. Like, wait, somewhere. Next year, 2014. But you know where it is?
Starting point is 00:35:59 It's not in the first person. You're right. And oh my God. And what they've done, and I read an article where they were talking about what they want to do for QuickTime events,
Starting point is 00:36:07 it's actually pretty interesting. What happened in QuickTime? So QuickTime events in that game will usually be in, you're either in an advantage over an enemy, or you're at a disadvantage. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Which is almost every QuickTime event either. And instead of giving you a button prompt, time will just slow way the fuck down, and you will scan the environment, and objects will be highlighted. Oh, I didn't get that.
Starting point is 00:36:25 And if you select them, your character will grab that item or shoot that item or do something. Context. Yeah. And it like, it's a weird comparison.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Last of us advanced. And it is the most similar example I can think of is the stage hazards in Dead or Alive 5 when you do the big power hits. Oh, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:45 A little bit like Walking Dead 2 when the thing's coming at you and you move the cursor on something, look around. Look around, click, wait four seconds. That's all down for that.
Starting point is 00:36:55 But like honestly, like when I walked over to your desk, and you were watching the trailer and I saw that I was in third person, that was the sound of something going from like, like interest.
Starting point is 00:37:05 Yeah. And I was like, that was like the sound of interest into holy shit on the radar super hard. The order looks so damn good. Man, oh man, like third person action.
Starting point is 00:37:14 For a guy like you that doesn't give a flying fuck about first person shooter online multiplayer, then no shit you prefer third person shooter. Because third person lets melee stuff happen.
Starting point is 00:37:26 And hey, Seth Kylian's working on it too. Oh yeah. I saw that. The S-Kill. Dude, you'll be assured you can in their game.
Starting point is 00:37:34 At the Brazil game show, I don't know if you watched it. I watched it. And Seth Kylian came on stage to present the order. And I was like, that's really cool, Seth.
Starting point is 00:37:42 I love you. Keep up the good work. Stop being so tall. Keep creating big ups and hearts to Seth Kylian. Please be excited for our Jogos. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Jogos. I love Jogos. I love Jogos. And I'll see you later. What's up guys? I have two questions. You guys read about Edward Snowden. What?
Starting point is 00:38:04 Edward Snowden. How was he in this podcast? Yeah. So there's an interview with a guy who interviewed him. OK,
Starting point is 00:38:14 this is fabulous. Tracked him down and whatever. Blah, blah, blah. Talked about him and what he did
Starting point is 00:38:21 for the NSA and stuff. Telling stories about the hero who has to do what is right despite exile. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:29 That's ridiculous. That is as ridiculous as every kid who shoots his little brother and says
Starting point is 00:38:37 cause Scorpion would have killed him. That is I love how you purposely made a really bad comparison. That's
Starting point is 00:38:46 right. That is so ridiculous. But you have to think that like that guy who was in a position where he saw evil
Starting point is 00:38:54 in his hands and went I have to do it. That is like you saying I burn them all because Kamina would have
Starting point is 00:39:03 burned them all. Whoa. To fuck the system man. Like come on. No, but Kamina would have put on
Starting point is 00:39:11 his fucking Union Jack coat and glove and punched the shit out of the line. If Julian Assange if he just came out was like
Starting point is 00:39:19 I liked Fight Club that's the only reason why I didn't anything. That I would go you know what that makes a little bit more
Starting point is 00:39:27 Hey why did you slice this guy in half and pull out his spinal cord cause riding would have done it. But no but either way
Starting point is 00:39:35 he did a good thing not a bad thing Depends who you ask Depends on who you ask Yeah
Starting point is 00:39:43 Treason I'm sure there are many people who will disagree with us champion no treason isn't that the last layer
Starting point is 00:39:52 in hell it is but you know what if that is the reason like honestly good on you guy like you did the right thing I think
Starting point is 00:40:01 having video game characters inform your moral decisions seems like a really he's a protagonist in his own head with this kind of thing totally and that makes more sense
Starting point is 00:40:09 and that's what's going on but in the end it was for the better I think oh yeah probably no matter how you slice it he did a good thing
Starting point is 00:40:19 for whatever reason he did the good thing for I hope he's liking the way we're saying this do you want to know because we're like no everyone knows
Starting point is 00:40:28 I'm just saying no if you don't know you should know but Edward Snowden look his name up there's a lot more details he got into the government's computer and then said
Starting point is 00:40:36 hey everybody look what's in the government's computer turns out they're spying on everybody surprise and then the government was like
Starting point is 00:40:44 what's this folder that I found connect guys don't we told everybody they can see my balls oh no oh man
Starting point is 00:40:56 oh jeez all these butt selfies of the public yeah the government took a whole bunch of butt selfies you got the nudes of the
Starting point is 00:41:04 president and they're everywhere Edward Snowden exposed them why would they keep nudes of the public why wouldn't you for diplomacy
Starting point is 00:41:12 for diplomacy diplomacy diplomacy is failed for justice so leaked nudes of a new pokemon game another one that's not
Starting point is 00:41:23 poke-in fighters sorry when you say leaked do you mean announced no like it was not only announced Liam knows some shit
Starting point is 00:41:31 unless which one gone the detective announced that was announced yeah on TV why would they
Starting point is 00:41:39 when hours ago screams what is going on because it's super in development okay so there's a detective game
Starting point is 00:41:47 where you play with pikachu and you detect yes and the enemy what and the enemy do you remember the weird pikachu facial mocap thing yeah hey you pikachu
Starting point is 00:41:55 that's that no the one recently with the weird creepy pikachu okay let me explain let me explain so well fine you take the story then
Starting point is 00:42:03 no so recently they came out and said they were using some mocap stuff for a new unprecedented pokemon game sorry pikachu
Starting point is 00:42:11 I love the idea of an unprecedented unprecedented pikachu title yeah and it translated as unprecedented that's great and today they came out and said oh there's two
Starting point is 00:42:19 there was like a pokemon chose a sequel that we're not sure what's going on with that and pikachu detective mystery yay there's no name for that one yet
Starting point is 00:42:27 and it's just a pikachu detective game where you inspect is pikachu the detective and he's like you're the detective so he's he's watson
Starting point is 00:42:35 yeah he's friender now what's unprecedented about it is that the face capture is being done for the enemy
Starting point is 00:42:43 pikachu what? what? wait what? I missed that bit there's a bad what the fuck is this there's an evil pikachu
Starting point is 00:42:51 that talks so you're gonna see pikachu with like elenor face capture that's sick I don't say this often but hashtag
Starting point is 00:42:59 game changer right here hashtag yeah that's really nuts I didn't hear about those that is that is the most
Starting point is 00:43:07 baffling shit ever it's gonna be like meowth basically what is the point of having pikachu actually selling units damn it
Starting point is 00:43:15 you're damn it yeah if murdered soul suspects was just the same thing right but with pikachu
Starting point is 00:43:23 we probably do way better yeah of course pikachu getting tossed out a window like fucking then shot putting a gun on you
Starting point is 00:43:31 like is there chalk outlines of pikachu's on like the rain slick streets like I don't get it
Starting point is 00:43:39 that's really weird that is the weirdest thing I've heard in forever watch it come out writer frank miller I hope it's
Starting point is 00:43:48 super good and I'm playing it I'm like this is really good immediately followed by this is the fucking weirdest game ever yeah
Starting point is 00:43:56 you go I want from murders perpetrated by vaultorbs as weapons I want no the wall the vaultorb is like the bomb
Starting point is 00:44:04 that they used to as weapons I was like there's looms all on the street just drugged out yeah my smoke and a big
Starting point is 00:44:12 muck all over the place just took a wattish he's in he's in the diner and like another diner like the club
Starting point is 00:44:20 and like jinx is singing on the mic you know Mr. Mime's just cooking Pokemon in the bag come on no writes it so
Starting point is 00:44:28 fuck Mr. Mime Mr. Mime's great Mr. Mime's the worst so good he's a man with serious problems I fucking hate Mr. Mime he's really bad
Starting point is 00:44:36 he's so cool thank you woolly um there's new screens of Attack on Titan really? the 3D S game
Starting point is 00:44:44 does it look like a game? it looks like it's gonna play itself damn it it still has no UI going on damn it so it is a virtual novel no
Starting point is 00:44:52 you know there's some cool 3D where you're on the rooftop and you're fighting the giant press A to get eat the colossal Titan and you're doing all the stuff but it looks
Starting point is 00:45:00 like it's gonna swing and play itself play press Y to cry with futility yes I feel like you just look at these screens
Starting point is 00:45:08 and it's like exceedingly clear this game has a super short development time and like as it should be yeah because it's it's not
Starting point is 00:45:16 it's not like the kind of game where it's like hey there's Attack on Titan coming out no we should make a tie in game no it's no it's
Starting point is 00:45:24 oh shit Attack on Titan's fucking hot do we own the rights to that or make something get up quick go see Fullmetal Alchemist games yeah um
Starting point is 00:45:32 so this don't do that so there's like 20 streams that came out or so and maybe a third if almost half of them are just screenshots of like
Starting point is 00:45:43 static image from show with text underneath a visual novel style story which is obviously the between the mission bits but the crucial thing here
Starting point is 00:45:51 is there's still no fucking UI in the screen shots there's still nothing it's worrying which means it can all be in-game cut scenes and it's all like just no no no
Starting point is 00:45:59 like turn based they showed no they showed video like turn based no they showed turn based but they showed
Starting point is 00:46:07 the gameplay yes yes there is gameplay happening but they haven't showed us a sequence no and that's because it's not fucking real
Starting point is 00:46:15 because the development time is 12 minutes show me an equivalent of hunting the Big Daddy video for Bioshock 1 show me even though that video
Starting point is 00:46:23 was never represented by the game of course but give me a proof of concept take down the Titan video all I can say is give them time
Starting point is 00:46:31 because that's what they don't have and that's what they desperately need that being said Wally touched a little bit of a bigger issue I want those videos
Starting point is 00:46:39 to go away because the Bioshock 1 1 was like the game's not really like that and then the Bioshock Infinite 1 it's like the game
Starting point is 00:46:47 is nothing like that well granted granted there was a 3 year period sure but that game came out good whereas Alien Colonial Marines is the worst
Starting point is 00:46:55 version that that can happen like I don't want to see proof of concept fake gameplay videos anymore I just want to see like when the game
Starting point is 00:47:03 has a sequence that you can show but don't show me the fake version okay unless it's Metal Gear Rising unless it's Metal Gear Rising fuck that wall run
Starting point is 00:47:13 I want it so bad wait for the sequel to be fair though that was totally in the game and then we took it out oh yeah no I was going to say
Starting point is 00:47:22 did we catch up on that that brand new Aliens game made by Sega that we're all excited about no no because I'm not excited
Starting point is 00:47:30 because were you there when we read about it yeah yeah and that's like everyone did you want to play as Ellen Ripley's daughter that most of you didn't know existed
Starting point is 00:47:39 because it's only in the director's cut yeah which you then explained to me she died normally safe on on earth
Starting point is 00:47:47 and then the picture she's got like a little cheery garden behind her what the she fucking fucked off to whatever
Starting point is 00:47:55 planet number back to space and then Aliens then returned and lived a happy life in some sort of space station yeah
Starting point is 00:48:03 that is dumb why is that dumb why can't you live a happy life after shit goes down why would you as Ripley's daughter who died safely on earth
Starting point is 00:48:11 suddenly fuck off the space well before she had her adventure you're going you're going backward no
Starting point is 00:48:19 because Ripley had one adventure yeah and then this happens and then Ripley wakes up and the rest happens
Starting point is 00:48:27 that's right we're just merely pointing out that this is a transparent attempt by Sega developers out of this franchise that they've screwed up so far
Starting point is 00:48:35 in all seriousness we've talked about this and the Aliens games are middling alright good if you go for way forward and the reason the last one
Starting point is 00:48:43 was so shitty was not because of Sega but because of Gearbox I'm still correct in saying that they're trying their desperate attempt to get more out of
Starting point is 00:48:51 the life franchise that they own by coming up with a really flimsy and not very good I still I don't see what's so wrong there's a part in my day
Starting point is 00:49:00 every day where I wake up and I realize that there was gonna be an obsidian made Aliens RPG and it got cancelled
Starting point is 00:49:09 to focus on Colonial Marines and that is the world's greatest tragedy no it's Saran wrap transparent
Starting point is 00:49:20 you know what here's a stone let's see how much I don't know why they're trying against us soon because even if they're
Starting point is 00:49:28 trying to get more out on the brand it's reasonable that brand is fucking poison now leave it alone for what well I know
Starting point is 00:49:36 the license is probably timed also they delayed one of the things we heard was they delayed this game it was supposed to be announced at E3 and they actually delayed it
Starting point is 00:49:44 to get more probably because Aliens was like poison and they were like let's get this away from the poison I think what that demonstrates is they at least care
Starting point is 00:49:52 about it enough to want to do that I suppose if one thing at least it's made by a generally competent developer creative assembly
Starting point is 00:50:00 yeah they're good it's by different guys a really good team who are probably not gonna fuck it up if they're getting more time than
Starting point is 00:50:08 initially was promised to them and Sega clearly cares about the franchise continuing that being said the premise of the game being
Starting point is 00:50:16 I think it's fine the premise of the game is there's only one alien which I went wow that's awesome and then it follows but most of the game
Starting point is 00:50:24 you'll be fighting clones and soldiers from Wayland U-10 and then I went there because now the alien has been relegated to a boss in a first-person shooter
Starting point is 00:50:32 it's by creative assembly it's gonna be good I'm tired of first-person shooters tell me first-person shooters how do you if you say there's one alien what do you do in the game then
Starting point is 00:50:41 you better hide the alien Mr. X the entire game you need something to kill I want no I want it to be amnesia
Starting point is 00:50:49 but with a Xenomorph alright you're okay now you know that like it's coming to fucking kill you spend the game just make it alien 3
Starting point is 00:50:59 the game yeah that game would be awesome there was an alien 3 game a 3 game nerd review game I honestly just think what Ripley is
Starting point is 00:51:07 fucking doing like DMC-style gun combos to multiple aliens at the same time well I honestly just think like just controlling aliens just you know
Starting point is 00:51:16 give it the benefit of the doubt like creative assembly is making whatever they're gonna make it until we see it it automatically gets the benefit of the doubt because it's a different developer
Starting point is 00:51:24 right but whether or not I'm interested in that I mean I'm still bored by the idea of like shooting guys in an alien game well yeah but we don't know
Starting point is 00:51:32 what the context is like if you were told what it was if you're shooting clones it's one thing to say you know you're doing this with this but it's a whole other thing
Starting point is 00:51:40 to add context to it yeah if someone has the balls to take the franchise and not do aliens but do alien with it
Starting point is 00:51:48 or alien 3 where it's like it's not about big guns and soldier dudes and fighting them like bugs yeah do you know what
Starting point is 00:51:56 that would get my my respect oh sure instantly since Pat said alien 3 do you know be a good setup and like a way to make that work
Starting point is 00:52:04 like being with a uh uh Riddick assault on dark Riddick the Riddick game yeah
Starting point is 00:52:12 remember you would need to talk to prisoners that's right harder with them you have little scraps yeah and it was like leading up to a thing
Starting point is 00:52:20 and there was like an economy within the world like yeah it could be that too but I don't see them doing it or like you can like you can swap control
Starting point is 00:52:28 between your crew members and your bishop that's also a way to do it and then guess what you swap back to one guy and he's fucking dead because the alien I think
Starting point is 00:52:36 I think the problem is you know like the aliens game right yeah the game that takes that franchise and focuses on the soldiers
Starting point is 00:52:44 and shooting and being a first person shooter you're never gonna be AVP2 that game is so good even AVP made by the developers
Starting point is 00:52:52 couldn't be AVP2 is so good it is everything perfectly and so that game exists so don't do something different
Starting point is 00:53:00 yeah give me a give me a give me a concrete jungle but better no better no yeah
Starting point is 00:53:08 no yeah no I know I said no but yeah give me like Predator concrete jungle that's like
Starting point is 00:53:16 Arkham Asylum yeah we mean we said that in our play through imagine a Predator game where you're a Predator perched on the thing
Starting point is 00:53:24 and it controls exactly like not controls it works yeah we broke it down yeah do that yeah
Starting point is 00:53:32 I love the Predator I'm the king of this city you guys are weird so it turns out that Namco Japan is turning out more Tales games
Starting point is 00:53:42 than it's then it's US team can actually localize that is that is ridiculous I think that
Starting point is 00:53:50 I literally can't believe that but it makes sense no it doesn't hire more localization staff no I agree I agree on that
Starting point is 00:53:58 but what I mean by it makes sense is that's how you know each team gets X amount of money right it's not just the magic Namco pool that they dip into
Starting point is 00:54:06 no but it's like it makes sense but it's like yeah Namco give up but you're looking at there's both ends though you're looking at one
Starting point is 00:54:14 how small is your localization staff and B how many fucking Tales games are you making it's a total mismatch wouldn't wouldn't you probably
Starting point is 00:54:22 make more money yeah if you localize the games that you already developed everywhere oh yeah then
Starting point is 00:54:30 to make so many for one region that you can't even put them out in any of the other regions you're talking crazy like I know what
Starting point is 00:54:39 I'm actually gonna tend to I agree that they should localize them because they're developed on they're on the table but three American
Starting point is 00:54:47 Tales games will not sell as much and it's a shame but but still localized that might change if the fact that the
Starting point is 00:54:55 Tales franchise isn't this constant fucking worrying battle if whether or not they'll even come out like let's not forget that the two that most recently came out
Starting point is 00:55:04 other than Zillia 2 are on a console where people are just like fucking yelling for games on the internet and they're two of the most requested localization
Starting point is 00:55:12 but are like Japanese Tales fans actually buying one every six months like how much more like a year
Starting point is 00:55:20 a year and a couple months it's like Assassin's Creed not quite a half but kind of like Assassin's Creed and even then that's kind of in spurts like we went a while out seeing any
Starting point is 00:55:28 a bunch of should they just throw a year after the games at this point it's it's Tales 2K 15 because the difference
Starting point is 00:55:37 is they're still different whether or not you like Tales they're so fast well Zillia and Zillia 2 are basically Zillia and Zillia 2 are of course a sequel
Starting point is 00:55:45 and they tried something that's cool you like that even though the gameplay overlaps like so much Tales 98 you know
Starting point is 00:55:53 just going backwards in time makes it funny even though the gameplay overlaps so much when you really look at it like Zillia and Vesperia and Graces
Starting point is 00:56:01 they're all different the characters are different the story's different they're different you know it's just they are more rigid in their formula
Starting point is 00:56:09 than the other series their Final Fantasy their Final Fantasy well Christ I wish I now wish Final Fantasy the origin conformity
Starting point is 00:56:17 of an overall quality that creates a budget really badly and I shouldn't get to talk because the Persona games 3 and 4
Starting point is 00:56:26 and all the remakes they are like the fucking formula they're the most formulaic thing ever they just made the formula way better
Starting point is 00:56:35 and they nail it yeah games of last generation well exactly exactly exactly I was about to say one of the Atlas dudes
Starting point is 00:56:43 was talking to a guy from Sony and he said you guys are gonna really really like what happens what was it what was a really good life
Starting point is 00:56:51 he said the question was is it Persona 5 and the guy goes you're curious aren't you fans will be very happy with what they see
Starting point is 00:57:00 on 11.24 get ready for Catherine 2 everyone but like the sounds of a shit eating grin
Starting point is 00:57:08 yeah that you're reading you joke about Catherine 2 I don't think there's ever been a more obvious like engine test game than Catherine 1 yeah
Starting point is 00:57:16 ever that was War Gods yeah just like we don't know how this works let's make a game that requires no gameplay
Starting point is 00:57:24 yeah and just fucking engine and you told me someone would find a way to make Catherine and War Gods the same thing
Starting point is 00:57:32 yeah if you tell me that the next Persona game is gonna be like current gen or like Vita or something but the cut scenes
Starting point is 00:57:40 are gonna look like Catherine even half as good as Catherine freaking out over here yeah I'm freaking out dude it's gonna be so good it's gonna be so good
Starting point is 00:57:48 why did you be a PS2 game no it would be if you want to go weird the weird place would be a PSP game yeah
Starting point is 00:57:56 and that's possible I could I could I could no it's not it's gonna be PS3 and Vita Catherine sold really well
Starting point is 00:58:04 didn't it Catherine sold quite well over 200 something Catherine sold stupid well for what it was oh so it's really good
Starting point is 00:58:12 I know it broke a million worldwide it shifts to 200k plus in the states yeah and it's sold out do you think if it bombs super hard would they just go back
Starting point is 00:58:21 to the PS2 no because for John no because it was a test game and it was like whatever the atlas's stuff lives on its brands sure
Starting point is 00:58:29 like SMT4 is the kind of game where there's nothing on that box but the title in Japanese yeah and it sells better cause it's in Japanese
Starting point is 00:58:37 on the English box and you go what's that it's SMT4 yeah absolutely and persona has gotten there now where it's like
Starting point is 00:58:45 like persona's bigger it's out of the ronin persona 4 the golden out sold SMT4 that's nuts I know and it's a remake that's nuts
Starting point is 00:58:53 I know how is that nuts SMT4's really good no sure but I mean persona has a remake persona has a franchise overtook
Starting point is 00:59:01 the other franchise all because it came from yeah but it's like dark stalker's doing better than Street Fighter exactly that's why it's weird
Starting point is 00:59:09 it's weird to me I've played persona 4 like back in 2009 yeah and then this thing came out as a remake in 2012 yeah
Starting point is 00:59:17 and then I'm like oh yeah a remake but to everyone else it was like oh I can finally play persona 4 people wouldn't shut the fuck up about this for 4 years so of course it sold super
Starting point is 00:59:25 right cause they unhooked our soldered ps2's or did whatever yeah they just didn't play it at the time yeah I don't like
Starting point is 00:59:33 when I play persona 4 I didn't know anybody else who's still in a fucking ps2 well you guys well you guys are weird it's not original yeah
Starting point is 00:59:41 like persona 4 original like I'm looking for numbers and I'm kind of ballparking around 450k it was a it was a really weird thing when it came out
Starting point is 00:59:49 and the Vita was still that was when the the Vita was in its death spiral well it's perpetually in its death spiral right but it was in a way worse death spiral before and it came out
Starting point is 00:59:59 and people were like are you guys gonna keep putting stuff out on this cause it's dead and they're like it's not dead to us it's not dead at all
Starting point is 01:00:07 this game sold yeah it sold they announced over 300k in Japan recently which was digital and physical I would easily hazard it was like 110
Starting point is 01:00:16 150 over here I think well I was gonna say I would easily hazard that Asia, Europe and America combined over 150k which instantly places it
Starting point is 01:00:26 above the original persona 4 which is nuts how sick would it be though if they actually announced it on everything persona 5 on on all
Starting point is 01:00:34 thing I can't not possibly see it on the X-Pone yeah I cannot see that well no
Starting point is 01:00:42 but I can see it being like a cross-play game among like every current Sony system yeah I personally
Starting point is 01:00:51 I think it's gonna be one Sony console probably PS3 and Vita yeah that's what I think that's what I think too yeah do you think a Wii U
Starting point is 01:00:59 fucking lockdown would be possible oh lockdown no way no lockdown but because of the SMT I'm the thing who knows that
Starting point is 01:01:07 that's exactly what I'm thinking of I think it's the friendliness that they have with Nintendo right now I think it's within the realms of possibility but the way it seems to like split is that
Starting point is 01:01:15 Ninty gets SMT yeah and Sony gets persona yeah I really I agree like it's one of those things where it's like it could happen
Starting point is 01:01:23 but I really don't think it could happen but persona seems to rely more on like more power where's the persona fan base literally on the Vita they're all on the Vita literally on the PS3 they sold more on the Vita
Starting point is 01:01:32 than the PS2 literally the persona fan base is on the Vita I have a Vita thanks for that that's no that's I'm proving it's
Starting point is 01:01:40 three out of five people on the entire persona fan base wow you're really good at that but do Vita owners own persona or do persona like fans own persona fans
Starting point is 01:01:50 okay there you go Linda, Dara, Chris yeah me, Liam yeah Vita looks cool persona for Golden
Starting point is 01:01:58 well we're all buying Vitas yeah and I mean once again it's not a question since Golden outsold the original thus there are more fans there Golden outsold the Vita it did
Starting point is 01:02:08 it did the other bit since you talked about Final Fantasy earlier just now was yes that one piece of news Square Enix has discussed
Starting point is 01:02:17 letting Eidos work on Final Fantasy could be very do it do it in quotations let them do it you should probably do it
Starting point is 01:02:25 I really hope they do it let them let them it would be very exciting if they did give it to a team made out of some people that did
Starting point is 01:02:33 sex because that came was rad and then don't let Toriyama touch it yeah that's all I want
Starting point is 01:02:41 guess what since he's on the committee he's on the committee committee to excellence of Final Fantasy there's a bunch of comments in the gaff thread that were basically
Starting point is 01:02:51 just wow that thread is like the most polar opposite people doing what I just did and people going
Starting point is 01:02:59 that's disgusting it's such a 50-50 I'm like there's the guys that are going it can only go up there's a bunch of those who are saying
Starting point is 01:03:07 yeah it reminds me of the reactions to Resident Evil 4 it is yeah in a way
Starting point is 01:03:15 Resident Evil 4 was shown off to be more action-oriented and people like me before we played it went no fuck that
Starting point is 01:03:23 and then and then a lot of those people said oh, Resident Evil is ruined forever because it's different now and then it was the best game ever
Starting point is 01:03:31 when that was for us not I remember being wow, that's awesome just because I was so sick of RE0 exactly exactly and that's where I'm at
Starting point is 01:03:39 with Final Fantasy I adore Final Fantasy I would love to see those when I read this coming from Crystal Dee or something making Final Fantasy
Starting point is 01:03:48 it was from OXM that put this out there and like I think that could breathe life Crystal Dee more like my dick is so crystal hard
Starting point is 01:03:56 over this news it could breathe life from the franchise but besides even 2016 at this point like there's so many side stories in Final Fantasy
Starting point is 01:04:04 and like recently how many Final Fantasy spinoffs have we had not really many so why not just make a big spinoff game make it like say
Starting point is 01:04:12 don't give them a mainline number have Eidos make Final Fantasy Mystic Quest 4 I was gonna say yeah, just something like even just do that
Starting point is 01:04:20 just, you know and in Japan we call Final Fantasy USA 2 yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I just got a big American flag yeah, yeah
Starting point is 01:04:28 great wait, I forgot who is making Final Fantasy what was that Grand they're making that Final Fantasy they took concept art
Starting point is 01:04:38 from Final Fantasy and submitted it and like Japan like this does look nothing like Final Fantasy FF Lady Liberty oh right yes, yes
Starting point is 01:04:49 Lady Liberty my favorite fucking stupid translation of a game Resistance Burning Skies in Japan Resistance America's Last Stand wow and it's got a big
Starting point is 01:05:01 and on the cover it's got like a starry sky and like a red was it the sun? anyway, it looked like an American flag wow behind the camera
Starting point is 01:05:09 these titles are so good the best we talked about Psycho Break we talked about Psycho Break we don't stop talking about Psycho Break oh wait, we did talk about Psycho Break but we've only talked about Psycho Break
Starting point is 01:05:20 in two weeks from now uh oh yeah so that statement makes no sense moving on we'll talk about that later today Super Mario 3D World
Starting point is 01:05:33 has no online and here's why because Shiggy says eh maybe in ten years because Shiggy says the same thing that he's felt about all online forever
Starting point is 01:05:44 which is not right now and you know what we want you to have fun in your living room usually I'm the first person to go Nintendo stop being a bunch of fucking idiots
Starting point is 01:05:52 put on but for like a co-op Mario game I totally agree with that totally totally like if they pick the right one they pick the right one with Mario Kart and Smash
Starting point is 01:06:02 like totally have to eventually have to I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that if they've made a non-competitive Mario 3D World type game where you're connected with a random person online
Starting point is 01:06:12 that'd be the worst it would be the most garbage experience ever yeah it really would could you imagine getting in and you're playing it for the first time and there's this pro who's with Toad and he just fucking dashes
Starting point is 01:06:22 to the end of the level how about dropping into a game and eight seconds later Stargate what did I beat the level how? yeah like it's gonna be close to
Starting point is 01:06:30 enough when we all play oh yeah yeah the single screen I can only imagine let alone three random people that are all trying to troll each other and somehow somehow
Starting point is 01:06:39 managing to draw dicks if there's no dick drawing function I don't care there's a field of coins they collect the coins in a specific manner to sculpt out the balls and put that on me first
Starting point is 01:06:54 dick spring shine exactly the ingenuity of dick artists will never cease to exist no no no in 30 years the Guggenheim will just be dick sealed when I found out
Starting point is 01:07:08 that people were dick drawing in the snow at the end of journey yeah I fucking lost it yeah it was so done look at this huge journey to follow I still love Duke Nukem
Starting point is 01:07:19 which was just like draw dicks but yeah sure but then you have this emotional journey with this person hey look you leave the white message at the end hey look it's a dog there's a penis on the ground
Starting point is 01:07:31 like dicks are an object that must be drawn in every medium possible no medium will go undick one day we'll draw a giant dick on the moon and then we'll never not be able to see it and then this will start to calm down because no one will be able to beat the giant dick drawn on the moon
Starting point is 01:07:51 it's the only way to win drawing a dick on the moon is the only way to win yes alright what's next we gotta go back to space we gotta go back to space that's pretty good
Starting point is 01:08:11 man you guys see that you guys see that preview for the X-Bone dashboard oh my god okay so like ADD kids this is the console for you is it because you get to see a guy go through
Starting point is 01:08:26 like all the features in about a minute and twenty seconds my favorite bit is the bit where he's watching Pacific Rim and he says X-Box play Titanfall and his character is already in a game running oh yeah perfect so that immediately establishes this entire thing is completely fake
Starting point is 01:08:45 oh this was after images graduating class no it's gonna play the game for you so that's what I said earlier X-Box one can play games when you're not when you completely fake your UI introduction that makes me super nervous about your actual UI how many games are we out? three
Starting point is 01:09:01 it's very clearly the video that they showed the investors right honestly I went to Future Shop a little while ago you might remember and I played Forza which left a really good impression on me because Forza's really good Forza's apparently like the standout
Starting point is 01:09:13 dude it's so good Trigger Rumble the Trigger Rumble's impressive as fuck then what happened? I pressed the guide and it started making really loud noises and then I'm like oh I better select Killer Instinct quick and it just gave up and crashed nice
Starting point is 01:09:26 what happened when you went back to the Future Shop the next week? they were gone the demo kiosk was what? gone but what I will say is you destroyed X-Box they had it back up and running in a minute but what I will say is I saw a thread on the internet
Starting point is 01:09:39 where someone played it in another Future Shop this is very close to us on Gaff in fact and I was like oh they just moved it there so before the fucking Titan fall Titans feet hit the ground he ADD's over to Sleepy Hollow and starts watching Sleepy Hollow
Starting point is 01:09:58 but he was just watching Pacific Rim and now he's watching oh and he forgot about that in the middle of the other back yeah he's watching Sleepy Hollow they own the distribution and then he snaps in Bing and he Bing Sleepy Hollow on the side
Starting point is 01:10:12 while he's watching the movie but then his friend calls him and his friend's like you coming over and he's like yeah I am baffled at this because they've been selling this concept for a while on TV and like I've been baffled that's like
Starting point is 01:10:25 they've positioned it as like look you don't have to switch to your laptop you don't have to switch to your phone and my answer to this and most of the people is like I turn off my phone when I want to just sit and play a bunch of multiplayer or like who the fuck is this
Starting point is 01:10:42 that's watching a movie and has to immediately jump into a multiplayer like they are solving a problem that I pretty sure doesn't exist or at least it's super niche the one thing the one thing they have shown and Sony showed it as well
Starting point is 01:10:57 they both decided this is a feature that matters is you hit the power or whatever and it suspends and when you hit the power again it comes right back exactly like the Vita like the PSP and it's the Virtual Console
Starting point is 01:11:10 yeah right that's great quit and quit out that's awesome all the rest of it what the problem solving the sharing is cool the problem solving of a problem that doesn't exist
Starting point is 01:11:20 is set for one setting that I can imagine which is the YouTube Party right where everyone's in the room and everyone's like oh let's watch something okay
Starting point is 01:11:32 and then you after finish watching a movie or playing a game you just shout out whatever you want to do next sure like yes that's the only use case yeah but like
Starting point is 01:11:43 I feel like to build a whole system around that idea maybe not the best and I feel like there are so many competing things that do that better and don't rely on like an IR blaster or Kinect
Starting point is 01:11:55 to do them I have my PC hooked up to my television yeah guess what all of these features are the Thomas thing in the world to me because like guess what
Starting point is 01:12:05 I can do this with my mouse instead of Kinect you know what I trust way more my fucking mouse I really wanted you to say Kinect one of the things that I think is super dumb
Starting point is 01:12:15 is like okay right you need Kinect to use voice commands on Xbox sure even though voice commands aren't as good as a mouse on Sony you can just have a fucking mic plugged in and use your mic hey guys remember Socom 1 remember how voice commands
Starting point is 01:12:26 totally worked on that remember early Xbox games in which I think was Graw where you could totally do that with your fucking microphone because it's software it has nothing to do with Kinect yeah
Starting point is 01:12:38 okay I have a really good story about like the release do it is that you see over there next to my TV you can see that there's a Kinect right there and it's looking away
Starting point is 01:12:46 and it's looking away from us but I was playing a game or whatever and for a video obviously but Liam turned it on its face my girlfriend came over and then she's like
Starting point is 01:12:56 she goes why is your Kinect hooked up and I go I was doing a thing I'm doing work and she goes no why is it she hooked that up
Starting point is 01:13:05 I was playing a game okay for videos and she goes ah get that and she looks and she sees the prompt that's always there
Starting point is 01:13:13 which is say raise your hand say Xbox and she goes Xbox oh it actually worked and then
Starting point is 01:13:22 and then she goes ah would you make this to go away I go I don't know I think you say Xbox go home I don't remember
Starting point is 01:13:30 she goes Xbox go home and she's like this is shit and I was looking at her on the couch and she's laying on the couch and she was like
Starting point is 01:13:38 you know she had the control in her hand but I was like man this is what Microsoft wanted they wanted a person on the couch just saying
Starting point is 01:13:46 Xbox like you know phone Xbox whatever play Sonic the Fighter Xbox
Starting point is 01:13:54 Xbox Pizza Hut and that's really never gonna happen and the sad thing that is like that that concept relies on one thing
Starting point is 01:14:02 the novelty of talking to the thing if it fails once that novelty is gone forever all it has to do is fail once
Starting point is 01:14:10 and for you go hey Xbox Harry Potter and start playing pornography and you're like that's not what I wanted that's what I wanted like
Starting point is 01:14:18 it connect new that I want my mom never figured out how to text so right now she talks to her phone and it turns it into text sure
Starting point is 01:14:26 how does that work it works okay okay is your mother looking forward to buying this phone absolutely not but
Starting point is 01:14:34 that's kind of my choice I was like no I can't wait to play Orchid I really can't it would be really awesome but it's like there's a weird
Starting point is 01:14:43 they think their audience is the people who are not tech savvy enough to love this but their audience is the people that are crazy enough to buy this
Starting point is 01:14:51 super expensive thing right away and hate this it's weird well like I said last week about the
Starting point is 01:14:59 the stands in the store it's all about the flash and thunder and boy I see a lot of people walking away from that Forza demo saying that was fucking great
Starting point is 01:15:07 totally and Sony's not there to pick it up with Drive Club they're gonna sell a shit ton is this Drive Club sorry guys sorry isn't Drive Club officially delayed now
Starting point is 01:15:15 it is officially delayed okay now you told me that when you were there in that lineup you saw people taking selfies with the console
Starting point is 01:15:23 yeah they took a picture with the screen like that taking butt selfies you're totally right that being said I forgot some marketing group
Starting point is 01:15:31 put out some data that said what are what are people looking at on online retailers what are they
Starting point is 01:15:39 considering to buy they had Amazon they had Best Buy you know they had 5 retailers and they they turned it up and 40 something percent of people
Starting point is 01:15:47 are only looking at PS4 30 1% 48% I think it was PS4 31%
Starting point is 01:15:55 only looking at X-Bone and the remainder looking at both well there were some metrics I would have never thought of the reverse of that
Starting point is 01:16:03 it's only a hard core crowd going on the internet and looking at these consoles mostly and the reverse of that is what system comes out on
Starting point is 01:16:11 Blackfuckin Friday and the reverse of that is which system costs $100 less but people are going to be in store
Starting point is 01:16:19 not knowledgeable Xbox One all over the place and they're going to be like that's an Xbox I love America and they're going to pick one up
Starting point is 01:16:27 I I think that I'm super it's going to sell really well I'm super super they're going to have a box with like stars and stripes on it
Starting point is 01:16:35 with a flag with a mountain dew just as America on it I am so interested they should sell are you buying America on Black Friday what is wrong
Starting point is 01:16:43 with you if you're not the ad is like Xbox One for America yeah I am so interested in what those early numbers are going to be
Starting point is 01:16:51 in North America only because Japan isn't launching and it's going to be Sonyland anyway no it's tier two country there's nothing yeah
Starting point is 01:16:59 all the tier two countries are going to go Sony what I will say about Japan is if Microsoft buys the right and enough exclusives they'll have at least a good launch yeah and then
Starting point is 01:17:07 trickle off to death it all depends on your has been Sonyland forever and X-Bone looks like it's doing nothing to stop that the exclusives
Starting point is 01:17:16 don't have any the FIFA bundle is the most baffling thing ever because buying the PS4 and FIFA is still cheaper than the FIFA bundle although I do believe
Starting point is 01:17:24 the FIFA bundle is going to sway a bunch of people who just don't know any better but it will trickle off now more than ever do I want to see those Wal-Mart numbers
Starting point is 01:17:32 yeah oh yeah you're never going to see of course it's not a Wal-Mart it's not a big retailer or anything Pat
Starting point is 01:17:40 what would you be worried about that came out exclusively on the X-Bone oh the platinum game yeah the rumored platinum game cause we'll buy X-Bones cause I'll buy it
Starting point is 01:17:48 cause I'll fuck it I'll buy the review we were saying we were saying how I did so no no no
Starting point is 01:17:56 no you want to you want to elaborate on this rumor they're at the sea boat a while ago said people are going to be really really fucking mad
Starting point is 01:18:04 when they find out where the next platinum game is coming yeah and what what matter than the Wii U matter than Wii U
Starting point is 01:18:12 I don't want Kamiya to sabotage the shit at least when I get a Wii U I get Mario games yeah you get smash
Starting point is 01:18:20 I do like you get monolith nowadays right I don't care about killer instinct Gears of War is gone and I don't care about Halo
Starting point is 01:18:28 so I think what he means is that like what system has the still the most ire against it generally yeah
Starting point is 01:18:36 right it's pretty evident he meant Xbox and when we were talking about this earlier is that Microsoft on every
Starting point is 01:18:44 like Xbox Xbox One and whatever Xbox oh gee Xbox 360
Starting point is 01:18:52 or a techmo or a toky whatever oh shit and they're like if an American like giant is going
Starting point is 01:19:00 what Japanese developers should we have make something platinum is the flavor of the day five Tales of Vesperia was the most
Starting point is 01:19:08 like blatant one this time because Microsoft will ignore Japan entirely except for one just to see if they can get any steam
Starting point is 01:19:16 and if no we'll fuck it whatever who cares but they erect a erect
Starting point is 01:19:24 they did erect guys hey guys he said erect they did erect a Japanese office where they are going to be making Japanese games
Starting point is 01:19:32 with people from the Japanese game supposedly so they at least no they did and they're making no I mean
Starting point is 01:19:40 supposedly in as in like supposedly those games will come out well they will and be good well they I mean
Starting point is 01:19:48 they I have no faith missed Blue Dragon missed walker there's a bunch yeah no that was like
Starting point is 01:19:56 a big like initiative let's try this a home run and a swing and a miss yeah well like you know they're going to give it another go
Starting point is 01:20:04 and I mean Idolmaster succeeded until Namco was like well we could just go multi-plat because they're not paying us anymore
Starting point is 01:20:12 but Idolmaster was a big boon for them for a little while I wanted to like Blue Dragon I also wanted to like Blue Dragon play your place like years ago
Starting point is 01:20:20 and you showed up like an hour late to your own place and I had to watch your weird roommate play Blue Dragon was it emotions?
Starting point is 01:20:28 it was of course it was emotions it was not emotions another weird roommate play Blue Dragon yeah for like an hour and I've never been more depressed in my life
Starting point is 01:20:37 I was trying to look at my phone because the game is like remember Chrono Trigger and you go yeah it's way better than Blue Dragon I bought Blue Dragon
Starting point is 01:20:45 for like two dollars at a staples you got ripped and two dollars whatever and I wow it's staples it's like the lowest tier
Starting point is 01:20:53 of where to possibly buy a game I know I found it for two bucks anyway I brought it to my I brought it to my dad's place and I was like I was there with my little brother
Starting point is 01:21:01 I'm like you're gonna love this game it's good to you're gonna enjoy it like I enjoy breath of fire and then an hour in I ejected it I'm like I'm so sorry
Starting point is 01:21:09 I'm so sorry I'm sorry that this was the introduction yeah I'm so sorry Liam Jr please forget about that shout out to the games that you can buy
Starting point is 01:21:17 in your pocket yeah that always feels good and it's buy on a commando shout outs to you you deserved 60 but you got like 15
Starting point is 01:21:25 wait what did you pay for Lynx crossbow training I was about to say you gave me Lynx crossbow training it was 98 cents it was 10% off
Starting point is 01:21:33 if you had an edge card so I got it for like 86 I thought I was the king of that where I found WWE SmackDown vs. Raw
Starting point is 01:21:41 for in 2009 for a dollar 36 I thought I was the king for that the college we went to the department store right next door that had a mountain of
Starting point is 01:21:49 DK bongos yeah for the Bucks how many did you buy exactly I bought one speaking of awesome controllers that we bought at
Starting point is 01:21:58 local drawing stores Liam and I totally bought DualShock 4s yeah they're fucking great they're really good and if you do
Starting point is 01:22:06 enough bullshit you can get them working on PC oh do you got it now if you do enough bullshit you can get them working on 360s and PS3s
Starting point is 01:22:14 did you see the video what it's my it's my phone cable ah fuck you so this dude has a video of him using like three things basically
Starting point is 01:22:22 yeah software and hardware to get it running on a 360 on PC on PC you can do it on PC you can do it
Starting point is 01:22:30 all software and you got to use like an X input wrapper and it's a total pain in the ass but I got it working with
Starting point is 01:22:38 Borderlands and that was a good example because this is a first person shooter yeah the DualShock 3 is fucking terrible for
Starting point is 01:22:46 well let's see let's see how it plays plays so good the DualShock 4 is so good yeah I love it
Starting point is 01:22:54 there you go ah that's all I have to say yeah it's really really good controller I wish we could contrast this with your insanity
Starting point is 01:23:02 from two weeks ago oh my god this was that or maybe it was three weeks ago one week ago the X input the X input thing
Starting point is 01:23:10 oh yeah if DualShock 4 doesn't have X input it is the failure of a game design no it's failure for PC stuff but there are smart people
Starting point is 01:23:18 making bullshit work around of course to make it go but that's at the time I said there's ways there's always ways
Starting point is 01:23:26 yeah but it's frustrating if someone made a bullshit work it's worthless it's worthless I want it to just go okay
Starting point is 01:23:34 is that so wrong it'll go in the future though for sure if you want things to just go then you don't buy a PC and do PC the internals
Starting point is 01:23:43 that's the internal struggle of my life but it'll just go for all future games yeah this thing will absolutely be supported
Starting point is 01:23:51 on almost all PC games going for it you'll have Xbox 360 support and PS4 support because it actually works when you plug it in I like the DualShock 3
Starting point is 01:23:59 no bullshit you guys catch the moving along the collector's edition for adventure time no
Starting point is 01:24:07 okay so they released a picture they released a picture of it and it's like well fuck is it a full body pillow of Marceline no damn
Starting point is 01:24:15 no is it a full body pillow of Fiona no is it a full body pillow of lumpy space princess because then I'm in are you
Starting point is 01:24:23 got it under your system you guys are good it's a BMO oh yeah that's cool what is the case it's a big
Starting point is 01:24:31 it's a BMO you remember the case you got adventure time special edition it's that but BMO but it's BMO it's the box
Starting point is 01:24:39 it's a special hard case and then you get you have arms and legs all your bullshit in it and you get does it have voice does it have BMO's voice does it have BMO's voice
Starting point is 01:24:47 is it just actually BMO no it's not it's actually BMO don't tell them why I want it to be BMO and I want her to do BMO chop and say
Starting point is 01:24:55 oh yeah hey guys come play my video game did you see there's that guy that had the the iPod sleeve that you put over your
Starting point is 01:25:04 iPad rather and it puts a BMO case over your iPad with arms and legs and an app it goes face no that was that was the April Fool's show
Starting point is 01:25:12 it was the April Fool's thing it's not real I know and you're like I hate you thinky it was thinky that's not the guy so good
Starting point is 01:25:20 I'm so best for anyone who doesn't know there's a really great BMO app on iTunes and it's free and it does tons of bullshit and it has a BMO sound board on it of course it does
Starting point is 01:25:28 it does it's great but yeah it comes with a you know a little collector's book I love BMO it's like artbook
Starting point is 01:25:36 slash fun time adventure book interactive elements nothing my brain is just going I love BMO yeah I hope that game
Starting point is 01:25:44 doesn't suck yeah it looks a lot better that first game was pretty good though it was we all agree that it was pretty good
Starting point is 01:25:52 so is that for every SKU nah I don't know I bet you I bet you it won't be for the PC version
Starting point is 01:26:00 the picture I saw was for the 3DS one so it comes out for PS3 360 3DS I think Vita
Starting point is 01:26:09 I can't remember PC as well I think everything not Vita no that's why I'm getting the Wii U version oh
Starting point is 01:26:17 well cause we could do a video with it we all play multiplayer whenever we finish a segment talking about the Vita or the Wii U
Starting point is 01:26:25 we all just go oh cause it is a shame come on God eater 2 save the Vita oh it looks so good
Starting point is 01:26:33 you guys see the sales sales numbers on Pokemon quite high I bet they're pretty good yeah how good are they they broke 4 million
Starting point is 01:26:41 in the first week yep which is crazy go nuts hey man everyone's coming back but the second week
Starting point is 01:26:49 they dropped off more than black and white did okay it's under under 500k so
Starting point is 01:26:57 I feel like it was just this rush to an explosion and there's Pokemonia run and war Pokemon fever just to set this up
Starting point is 01:27:05 a game to surpass a million on the second week and that was Dragon Quest 7 on PS1 and that's Dragon Quest
Starting point is 01:27:13 only game to ever sell a million on second week we're talking about Japan or Worldwide Japan okay wait
Starting point is 01:27:21 sorry what? no Japan the 4 million figure was Worldwide
Starting point is 01:27:29 oh yeah but the second week dropped by 70% wasn't that just Japan 75% still steep whereas black and white
Starting point is 01:27:37 dropped by 70% so the difference isn't like there's a tangible difference there it's not immense
Starting point is 01:27:45 I won't say it's statistical noise it's certainly tens of thousands of unity I think that's the kind of data you see
Starting point is 01:27:53 when everyone in the market knows what the product is it's not like gravity where people didn't know
Starting point is 01:28:01 about gravity there's no word of mouth exists about Pokemon is somebody you know got Pokemon and you say hey how's Pokemon they say it's good
Starting point is 01:28:09 yes day one everybody yeah so like my take on it is it's different from black and white
Starting point is 01:28:17 because less kids are playing it more people who can actually buy it thus more people buy it on the first week and then kind of
Starting point is 01:28:25 tapers off because everyone already bought it or it's just kind of having some competition issues with it's also
Starting point is 01:28:33 killing it the Monster Hunter 4 is still selling out yeah Pokemon didn't quite sell out people like Monster Hunter
Starting point is 01:28:41 sold out the second shipment I think sold out the third shipment I want to say Nintendo probably shipped more Pokemon than Capcom shipped more definitely definitely Monster Hunter out
Starting point is 01:28:49 here Monster up well it's gonna come just be patient oh wait what was that I hope it comes to the Wii U
Starting point is 01:28:57 and let's segment the same way we always do oh you idiots that Capcom put out a thing I'm sure you've
Starting point is 01:29:05 just seen it it was like 500,000 Monster Hunter for the Wii U did super well did over 500,000 wow which is
Starting point is 01:29:13 so much more than everything else I think it's the most successful North American Monster Hunter ever maybe a no it is totally
Starting point is 01:29:21 incredibly it's plainly it was 500k moral surprise life in that series
Starting point is 01:29:29 surprise yeah 500k world one okay cause it sold 300 and something in Japan yeah right so break that down it's still good enough
Starting point is 01:29:37 America average 90k that's it's still really good don't misunderstand here because I remember I remember for sure Capcom said
Starting point is 01:29:45 like months and months after TRI came out on the Wii they said we sold 500,000 copies in North America right this is the most
Starting point is 01:29:53 successful Monster Hunter we've ever launched we've ever had North America I remember that cause I remember the fact checking will ruin this podcast
Starting point is 01:30:01 do not fact check do not fact check let us be wrong there you go and be called out later I think it was 500k worldwide which is still super good
Starting point is 01:30:09 the point is they put out a statement said yo guys did actually super good and they put that statement out in English as well yeah
Starting point is 01:30:17 I think I think we're gonna see four on the Wii I hope we fucking do cause I hate playing Monster Hunter
Starting point is 01:30:25 on handhelds and I sure is gonna hate it anyone care about UK sales figures no cause the UK see
Starting point is 01:30:33 the UK like game business is totally wrong that's why they get good PS Plus Batman just GTA
Starting point is 01:30:41 everything is wow wow totally fucked in game what is going on in the UK UK was the bats that's what's happening
Starting point is 01:30:50 the UK sales have always been like the most baffling they're so weird well cause they always count UK and then they have the European
Starting point is 01:30:59 they break out all and then you're like I don't know what these numbers mean what country bought what they go I don't know what is this region even
Starting point is 01:31:07 did you guys sell it to Italy no not this time why not don't ask questions weren't you in charge of that what
Starting point is 01:31:15 I really bought tons of Marlowe Briggs how is that even possible why why why why because
Starting point is 01:31:23 outside of revengeance it's the best character I had potato I just want to hug him Briggs O'Donnell this is for me Briggs O'Donnell
Starting point is 01:31:31 it's good Briggs O'Malley Briggs O'Potata there there there there I went for it Briggs McGillicuddy
Starting point is 01:31:39 McCallahan thank you send your emails to woolly if you are Irish and offended by that statement amen
Starting point is 01:31:48 you said something really offensive to Irish people and remember me but everyone was like oh I'm Irish and that was hilarious Irish and the Italians they don't care
Starting point is 01:31:56 you can't you can't offend the Irish people no but they like besides I get a free pass because I'm gingerly because you look like Irish like
Starting point is 01:32:04 remember that story some black dudes were like are you Irish and you were like no and they're like get out of here yeah that was weird it's like the Scotland's
Starting point is 01:32:12 ruined Scotland right like who cares what's that gross keeper woolly thing goes oh I hate the Scots they ruined Scotland
Starting point is 01:32:20 what what what a septtories bunch you just made yourself an enemy for life objections
Starting point is 01:32:28 and all amen you trace us back far enough in my timeline I told you this you're not Scottish man
Starting point is 01:32:38 what you're going to screw things my mom comes running Phil my name's Liam you go one way in the family
Starting point is 01:32:46 tree you hit the80 the other way you get the boat woah what do you want move on woah
Starting point is 01:32:55 hey Pat what's the biggest what's the biggest game on your potato what's the biggest game on your computer right now on my computer right now what's the big
Starting point is 01:33:06 file size ah Guild Wars 2 how big is it it's like 55 gigs I think ooh okay but that's an MMO yeah
Starting point is 01:33:14 what's the biggest non MMO game like Max Payne no the rockstar games are all disgusting 35 gigs
Starting point is 01:33:22 30 gigs the average around like 12 gigs how would you feel if you had to download I'm glad 290 gigs I
Starting point is 01:33:33 would not especially if I only had a 500 gig hard drive which is actually only a 460 gig hard drive to put it on yeah
Starting point is 01:33:42 especially if it's Killzone Shadowfall that's correct I am getting Killzone Shadowfall sorry what's the 290 gigs for you so Killzone is actually
Starting point is 01:33:50 40 gigs right now okay it was going to be 290 gigs no prior to
Starting point is 01:33:58 and then no they they were making the game and there's a how big is the game it's 290 gigs they said 180 actually oh
Starting point is 01:34:06 how big is the game it's too big we should probably put someone on that yeah it was the bit where they said oh optimization
Starting point is 01:34:14 exactly which is a regular part of game development I don't think there was ever a bit where they said here's the deal it used to be how do we
Starting point is 01:34:22 not terms of space how do we get the data to the best parts of the disc right so you would see games that are like
Starting point is 01:34:30 800 megabytes filled to the brim with junk data so that the data would be on the outside of the disc right now
Starting point is 01:34:38 that optimization time is like dude this game's like 300 gigs no one's going to buy that we can our blu-ray won't fit that the blu-rays won't do it fix it
Starting point is 01:34:47 do it it's hard do a layer fix it do a layer I think the do a layer of blu-rays are 100 gigs do a layer you couldn't even do that
Starting point is 01:34:55 no exactly you have to what are your textures doing everything everything at that point yeah if you zoom in
Starting point is 01:35:03 they solve the to be fair though to be fair though Battlefield 3 which is I think the closest game to what a next-gen game would be
Starting point is 01:35:11 is like 35 gigs with all the stuff well because the text it's just texture quality you want texture quality for 1080p well
Starting point is 01:35:19 fuck well PC games have been doing this for a while like Max Payne I think was 37 like they've been really getting up there
Starting point is 01:35:27 don't don't bring in Rockstar games I just did Rockstar games are I just done it Rockstar games are a lot like some Lucas Arts games
Starting point is 01:35:35 in that they fucking include every fucking localized version together yeah and instead of having an audio track
Starting point is 01:35:43 they have eight versions of the same cut scene unlimited internet plan also unlimited hard drive but 500 gigs
Starting point is 01:35:51 should manage a good bunch of games it'll manage that's what they're operating it will last for people like us
Starting point is 01:36:00 right up until the ps4 slim comes out with a 2TB drive yeah that's what's gonna happen
Starting point is 01:36:08 I'm looking like my my 360 elite has what 250 right yeah I'm looking at it four gigs left
Starting point is 01:36:16 yeah and we're at what year of the 360 now hold on think of how fucked up it would have been had you kept
Starting point is 01:36:24 your early 360 that had 20 gigs right and it only had 13 really when you hit terabytes like the performance
Starting point is 01:36:32 drop is gonna fucking suck that's fine it's fine that's why all games have to be installed you know
Starting point is 01:36:41 even accessing the drive of that size is fucking no no no it doesn't go up it's it's 300ish megabytes a second
Starting point is 01:36:49 it's that it's way faster than the disc I was gonna say there's issues on ps3 when you go above that size but on ps4 like they've cleaned
Starting point is 01:36:57 a lot of that out and you can go higher and you no longer you no longer have to theoretically on paper you never have to keep not according to Mark Cerny
Starting point is 01:37:05 dude I have a pc it's the same fucking thing it is it's not a problem okay I have my steam games installed to a 3TB hard drive
Starting point is 01:37:13 I have problems and when its performance drops it's what 4 seconds of loading yeah it's not so bad and guess what SSDs in
Starting point is 01:37:21 products are like a decade away so shut up yeah whether SSDs in your video game systems are a good thing or not
Starting point is 01:37:29 yeah because you rewrite on those enough and you kill them yeah SSDs will have to get a lot better first I would have assumed
Starting point is 01:37:37 that that's just where we're going naturally I mean eventually the next consoles will have hybrid SSD
Starting point is 01:37:45 and HDD they have to yeah that's just where it's going but if you rewrite enough on those things you just massacre yeah
Starting point is 01:37:53 whereas your standard HDD will last like fucking 10 years which is why a lot of people just put their OS on my OS is the only thing on my SSD right now
Starting point is 01:38:01 is my work software for like capturing video and editing video windows that's it everything else
Starting point is 01:38:09 that's why all my programs are on eDrive all my footage is on eDrive and then I have two externals that are both
Starting point is 01:38:17 two terabytes and three terabytes for media and porn media and porn separate
Starting point is 01:38:25 yeah no it's small I think I'm going to opt for a one terabyte fairly soon into its life cycle
Starting point is 01:38:33 I'm sure that the 500 gigs will do me just fine up until the point where there's a slim consumer horn by the slim
Starting point is 01:38:41 it could happen because like the games that are this size are either the one are games like Battlefield or Call of Duty
Starting point is 01:38:49 which is you're going to have one and you're going to have it all year and then you're going to replace it with next years or games like AC4
Starting point is 01:38:57 which you're going to beat and then delete and feel nothing for yeah when it's going to get fucked up and weird is when
Starting point is 01:39:05 especially for me and Woolly fighting games are never going to leave I like fighting games I did several series about fighting games
Starting point is 01:39:13 but but but woolly and I love to keep every fighting game in a playable format all installed
Starting point is 01:39:21 all the temper I'm never going to I'm never going to uninstall guilty gear XR yeah of course
Starting point is 01:39:29 maybe when super reload XR when K-Web 13 came out 12 fucking kicked the kick
Starting point is 01:39:37 hopefully there will be more vanilla why would you keep vanilla exactly but sometimes you want to see things
Starting point is 01:39:45 but like I'd want to keep Street Fighter King of Fighters Guilty Gear Tekken Persona Persona Fighter
Starting point is 01:39:53 Injustice back those games would fill up the entire starting hard drive but it'll be a couple years before that situation happens
Starting point is 01:40:01 and then I will have a bigger hard drive I'm interested to see how big the PS4 Injustice is going to be at launch yeah look
Starting point is 01:40:09 your fighting games and your character action games will be installed and everything else you play off the cloud oh no now I'll have
Starting point is 01:40:17 all my fighting games installed all my character action games installed the one first person shooter multiplayer game I'm playing installed
Starting point is 01:40:25 and the three single player games I'm playing installed and a bunch of indie shit well I think indie games
Starting point is 01:40:33 should all be indie games shouldn't really go down to dollars equal textures in small ways in real life
Starting point is 01:40:41 because that is the most tangible like growth in file size Matt and I were playing Dementium 2 which the guy said
Starting point is 01:40:50 what's the digital tribe games digital tribe games sent us over Dementium 2 preview build it's going to come out in December
Starting point is 01:40:58 it's clearly used to be a DS game but because they put new textures on it it looks super good wow awesome and like
Starting point is 01:41:06 he was talking about System Shock during it remember when System Shock 2 got that texture pack that made System Shock 2 go from looking like a total piece of shit to like almost
Starting point is 01:41:14 current gen game like model architecture is tiny texture quality is huge I'm interested like does it look at all like
Starting point is 01:41:23 it looks what it used to it looks like a forgotten game from 1995 like an old horror game that time just
Starting point is 01:41:32 forgot I want to say 95 wait no Half Life came out in 98 so 99 99 and it looks like
Starting point is 01:41:40 a forgotten horror game from that era ok and oh we found it and it's like got good textures and it runs at
Starting point is 01:41:48 like at some point at one point my computer said it was running at 14,000 frames 14,000 frames per second 14,000
Starting point is 01:41:56 but it usually averages between 4 and 800 frames a second so pretty alright performance that's pretty good like the build
Starting point is 01:42:04 they sent us has a FPS counter that's permanently locked in the screen and I'm like I wonder why they put that there
Starting point is 01:42:13 not bad textures guys cool it's been a which because as you brought up dementia any chance you saw the
Starting point is 01:42:21 Conan O'Brien's own personal shitstorm of scary no I did yeah Clueless Gamer with scary games Clueless Gamer
Starting point is 01:42:29 I thought she was seen on YouTube it's like millions of views people relate to it that's exactly like Conan's team is so smart
Starting point is 01:42:37 they saw us and like what he's gonna do then there's like the older crowd that's like that that are watching Conan that watch Conan
Starting point is 01:42:45 they're like all these crazy video games these kids are playing that's what I would say it's on that bullshit because Jimmy Fallon does like we things from time to time
Starting point is 01:42:54 he does he will do any and he knows video games yes but I'm saying but he likes them
Starting point is 01:43:02 he likes them but I saw those but I mean I mean compared to Conan sure but I saw this page of things that Jimmy's Fallon has said that are completely wrong
Starting point is 01:43:10 oh my god he called the PlayStation something else well we all know that guy yeah but like I mean like I think it started with
Starting point is 01:43:18 Wii Sports was like the first thing he did game wise and well everyone did in all fairness every public access
Starting point is 01:43:26 thing to CTV the biggest networks in the world all had a day when that was coming out Clueless Gamer because I think he
Starting point is 01:43:34 did he play RE5 at one point no RE6 RE6 seeing somebody who's not into games playing RE6 and like I'm seeing like
Starting point is 01:43:44 how does this like how to what is this like because I'm totally removed from this right we're all removed we know too much and so these
Starting point is 01:43:53 that's how people react to it and you're like yeah oh that's really the game mechanic that we've seen for years
Starting point is 01:44:01 he's not familiar he's just like why would that happen and then you go wait a second why would that happen just because it's happened a hundred times before
Starting point is 01:44:09 yeah Clueless Gamer man very interesting if it goes on for long enough then he's gonna be like oh yeah the RE6 that dumb
Starting point is 01:44:17 like thumbs up animation and that was in this game now or whatever it goes on for super long that's the one thing RE6 gave to the industry big dumb thumbs up animation I love this animation
Starting point is 01:44:27 and also brilliant for not actually reviewing the game oh yeah just straight up going like it gets a brrrr he's reviewing himself
Starting point is 01:44:36 right right right how do I feel about this oh yes anyway you brought up fighting games on the hard drive
Starting point is 01:44:44 and stuff and I just said like well let's move right into fighting games let's do it so hey eat your pie
Starting point is 01:44:52 your crow pie we're not there yet eat it we're not there yet oh I'm pulling it out right now oh it's in the oven it's in the oven
Starting point is 01:45:00 first let's sprinkle some stuff on it first that and I have to talk about the fighter within the subtitle being what is this I don't even because you see the
Starting point is 01:45:12 trailer for this thing and you're like there are characters so there's two things with this and I was thinking about this earlier today and if people recall me and Pat played a game
Starting point is 01:45:22 like a year or two ago called Rise and Nightmare we did play that which if it had used a controller at the very least would be interesting oh we were about
Starting point is 01:45:31 or a move at the very least I would have loved to do a full like let's play this and let's check it out whatever because it's this fucking
Starting point is 01:45:39 super weird game and it's made by the original House of the Dead team whoa really yeah and if you have one connect game that's not on rails yeah
Starting point is 01:45:48 you can move around you can move around and like as we were playing it we went through this thing like this game's so fucking weird aw man oh my shit yeah
Starting point is 01:45:57 so the fighter within is like you look at it you're like this looks like a fighting game there's characters there's moves a super American fighting game
Starting point is 01:46:05 yeah it looks like it's a fighting game and not UFC yeah it looks like tau fang sure
Starting point is 01:46:13 but it still looks good like visual ear whatever there's some stuff going on but then you just think back like this is going to be unplayable
Starting point is 01:46:21 and then you see that demo some dudes house apparently yeah of two guys playing the fighter within
Starting point is 01:46:29 and boy is it exactly what you think it is it is dudes just flailing around and every now and then isn't it a duck yeah and there's a guy ducks
Starting point is 01:46:37 and like a second and a half later the character ducks and every now and then they do a big hit and it goes into a cut scene which is the entirety of those trailers
Starting point is 01:46:45 yeah super pathetic super sad it's disappointing because I agree you look at it and you're like this could have
Starting point is 01:46:53 and the money went into the textures and the money went into and the animation all the things that needed to be there and the character designs to some degree
Starting point is 01:47:01 I saw a Muay Thai guy that's a Muay Thai guy character designs are totally respectable just like everything's there except the controller stop using
Starting point is 01:47:09 connect for video games please stop using connect for anything that's like a fighting game like don't even approach it if you can trade off
Starting point is 01:47:17 the connect being there for games or like staring at my snack buying habits then watch my snacks and think of a single skill based game that benefits from connect
Starting point is 01:47:25 even even fucking what's it called dance central if they made if they made a game as a skill based game
Starting point is 01:47:33 it does not benefit as funsies yeah but skill based no if they made a game where you like you yell at children
Starting point is 01:47:41 and like the children get sad depending how hard you yell at them I could see the connect being why do you need a connect and not a mic
Starting point is 01:47:49 exactly exactly there's a skill in scaring kids with your yell time to tears S-Shrank achievements pop up
Starting point is 01:47:59 he is now mentally damaged because hey about that expo and UI we forgot to talk about it you can change the color of the achievement prompt well you can change
Starting point is 01:48:07 the color of everything in fact you can't pick and choose the achievement prompt so if you like the red achievement prompt fuck you you got an ugly red dashboard too
Starting point is 01:48:15 okay pick whatever you want make it look like a ps4 what do you think anything else for fighting games going on yeah so
Starting point is 01:48:23 I was wondering yeah so let me just go get let me just go to the oven and just pull out this pie over here a lot of crows in that pie a lot of crows in that pie
Starting point is 01:48:32 they're alive and squawking double ultras are not only confirmed but they're super super like viable because
Starting point is 01:48:44 they are viable with the exact same thing as the rumor that you said was impossible yeah and here's when I saw it's literally the
Starting point is 01:48:54 complete opposite of what you said it's baffling that it was 100% opposite okay so here's I expected it to be like double ultras and then you'd be kind of
Starting point is 01:49:03 right because of the damage thing but no you were totally wrong it's amazing how wrong you were I was thoroughly wrong so
Starting point is 01:49:11 here's the thing when you see the video you're so wrong when you see the video right you can basically see that this is very viable
Starting point is 01:49:20 because the ultras do nothing they do no damage well which is what they said they said 66 damage less percent damage less than 66
Starting point is 01:49:28 a 66 damage percent sorry 66 percent reduction was the original rumor a full damage ultra is now
Starting point is 01:49:36 less powerful than a half damage ultra or a solid jump in some special moves you get a solid jump in heart attack and like you can go into
Starting point is 01:49:44 a string but with two ultras you're guaranteed to hit one of them it's options it's about options and if with red focus there'll be a lot more
Starting point is 01:49:52 situations where you can turn super meter into ultra meter yeah so the thing is oh boy I didn't even think of that
Starting point is 01:50:00 Jesus that's a lot of ultra meter when you're you're as well focusing super how much ultra is that you eat a whole combo yeah you can have like
Starting point is 01:50:08 most of your bar go all the way up so you can probably use those two ultras more often right so the thing with this is that you have a give and take system
Starting point is 01:50:16 where you're building more ultra in this one manner and then you're also spending more in another way yeah of course matchups are still going to change
Starting point is 01:50:24 oh yeah and it's going to get crazy hard to deal with dudes like geef and stuff so just ignore matchups but any really good pokers
Starting point is 01:50:32 like anyone like Kami who can do like crouching forward into cannon drill or any you can red focus
Starting point is 01:50:40 all that shit it'd be even and the fact that you're going to start getting this theoretically will be a thing right
Starting point is 01:50:48 wait like they're cancelable yeah but it's like you start off with no ultra yeah
Starting point is 01:50:56 but two bars and super you do the red focus you lose your bars and you get a crump
Starting point is 01:51:04 enough meter to do an FBADC in the ultra absolutely and you crumple them and then you do like
Starting point is 01:51:12 it's going to be this comeback oh for sure it's going to be the best this game looks amazing again yeah so
Starting point is 01:51:20 you must be happy considering you play Blanca yes and Blanca balls break they do so this is what's this is just going on too
Starting point is 01:51:28 is you know some top players have weighed in on what their thoughts are that was good what they're
Starting point is 01:51:36 talking about a can you did a good segue the top players have weighed in on what their thoughts are the options opened up and stuff
Starting point is 01:51:44 um and uh uh fuck what I was going to say the the shit that's blowing my mind
Starting point is 01:51:52 and is probably going to blow yours because you probably haven't heard about this yet is today Ono came out and said there's a third
Starting point is 01:52:00 mechanic there's more guys we're not even going to tell you about and it's going to be equally as drastic as the first two I bet you
Starting point is 01:52:08 the third mechanic is deeply rooted into how the fifth character plays ah oh I was just going to say it's gems it's
Starting point is 01:52:16 ruin the whole thing ruin the whole thing it's not gems of course man I'm sure I don't think I don't think street fighters are the kind of game
Starting point is 01:52:24 where a system mechanic would benefit I don't know but I mean they're going to turn it off with this game probably it's going to be super good that's fucking
Starting point is 01:52:32 that is Ono just sliding on stage and like break dancing doing a cartwheel and then laughing and just shitting while he's doing
Starting point is 01:52:40 hitting the crowd in a perfect 360 here's what I don't want it to be I don't want it to be delayed wakeup I don't want
Starting point is 01:52:50 delayed wakeup like, I know it's important but it's boring there it looked delayed wakeup delay wakeup not a good idea
Starting point is 01:52:58 either because setups are a bit then it makes the whole thing super defense focus what I want it to be is guard crush
Starting point is 01:53:06 guard crush is what everybody is thinking because they said we're gonna make the game more offensive and then they gave us two new system mechanics
Starting point is 01:53:14 that make the game more defensive so like especially considering like the only thing I can think of in my brain that can
Starting point is 01:53:23 make the game offensive with this is with guard crush and it's variable guard crush between characters yeah like some characters
Starting point is 01:53:31 well just like stun yeah like stun just like I don't know third strike that's a game of it
Starting point is 01:53:39 hmm variable guard crush I'm good with either all I know about that I want fucking guard crush so bad universal Street Fighter 4
Starting point is 01:53:47 would become a unrecognizably different game if they had a guard crush yes oh yes and I want to play that game
Starting point is 01:53:56 but just as quickly say like the ramifications of character specific guard crush yeah you're right it's I play
Starting point is 01:54:04 it's a fucking rock being thrown I play I play I play so I'd be yeah
Starting point is 01:54:12 no you can't but no that third thing being guard crush would be a very welcome change it would instantly get me back
Starting point is 01:54:20 because down back suddenly is not down back at the same time I feel like characters like like dulcim
Starting point is 01:54:28 almost need more meter guard crush meter that is to say dulcim's fine well because they get beat up on and they're guarding all the time
Starting point is 01:54:36 I feel like they almost need a movie about a huge disadvantage if you're playing sim properly you're poking no no of course
Starting point is 01:54:44 without a doubt but you follow what I mean right there are points where sim gets in a corner and you're like well here's what changes
Starting point is 01:54:52 even more than that is honda is dictator is blanka charge characters that are holding down back
Starting point is 01:55:00 of course are suddenly gonna have to fucking go shit I'm in trouble I can absorb both hits you know like that's what's gonna happen
Starting point is 01:55:10 I am certain that we will get a version 2014 of this and I will be excited for it and I hope let's fix all the mistakes
Starting point is 01:55:18 because I hope we get version 2014 because I hope these system changes are so dramatic that the game just breaks
Starting point is 01:55:26 that the game just goes like the earth opens up and match up start flying out of hell
Starting point is 01:55:34 and people go I don't know what this game is anymore yeah I want to go back to that yeah and jay won said
Starting point is 01:55:42 people are just gonna have to get better yeah you're just gonna have to do things like deliberately do your guard breaking move yeah you know and not focus breaking
Starting point is 01:55:50 that's the thing that's the most exciting because people don't really tend to throw those out a lot sometimes you get lucky doing a two hit move exactly oh yeah
Starting point is 01:55:58 well fuck it when I heard about the third thing right what this effectively does is just hey we can just spin our wheels on this since we have no more resources
Starting point is 01:56:10 to make any more fighting games so let's so hold that thought so let's make this game into a new fighting game all together
Starting point is 01:56:19 and have all the characters if hugo can fucking do a 720 and his air grab yeah oh my god yeah
Starting point is 01:56:27 nobody can see it but I'm flailing my arms around because I'm so happy oh my god yeah there are so many grapplers there's so many grapplers yeah there is
Starting point is 01:56:36 fucking I love grapplers so much what happens if the fifth character is a grappler I don't pee what happiness oh wow um
Starting point is 01:56:46 no I can't wait for her con are you gonna jump are you gonna jump no you're not yeah it's it's death between jump and grab also red
Starting point is 01:56:54 also fucking sliding focus red sliding oil focus dude um so the reason why
Starting point is 01:57:03 okay ultra stream predator force gonna be like fast super you just start sliding towards him in a focus oh and like what are you
Starting point is 01:57:12 gonna do and for anybody who's listening rage quit and plays fighting games on pc and it's like
Starting point is 01:57:20 it'll be steamworks cause games for windows live is gone so I'll be getting SF4 on steam sure
Starting point is 01:57:28 the reason why we told you to hold your jimmies little buster is because capcom has announced that they are working on a new
Starting point is 01:57:37 fighting game so then why the hell did ono say there's no more resources to make fighting cause he lies he said there's no resources to make an hd fighter because
Starting point is 01:57:46 textures are expensive remember memento remember when he writes don't believe don't believe lies that was ono space that's true
Starting point is 01:57:55 that's true I thought it was David cage whatever there's a lot of people on that the platform is undecided and development is in the preparation stages however
Starting point is 01:58:04 it sounds like when he says new fighter he means not an ip that has come before that is interesting but what I mean to say is that it's still a jump whatever they're making
Starting point is 01:58:13 it's going to take forever so they have to have something yeah to plan and all these changes making a brand new fighting in france it takes like two three years
Starting point is 01:58:22 and if it doesn't succeed you just blue two or three years what's happening right now is basically ackee man is just doodling some shit and they're just looking over his shoulder they'd probably be ikeena ackee man doesn't work for capcom
Starting point is 01:58:34 I'd be like wow they don't work for capcom either and they look over it's ikeeno ikeeno is the main doinger ikeno is the main they look over ackee man and ikeeno
Starting point is 01:58:42 and they're like wow that's even better than skullomania I didn't think that was possible that's our hero that's our hero character you go to a rica they show a big statue
Starting point is 01:58:54 of skullomania and the entrance with a real cape with a real cape and like a fan that comes from nowhere and you're like where's the fan how's it blowing
Starting point is 01:59:02 it's not a statue it's just a guy they just hire a man to stand at the skullomania oh skullomania is so cool what else is going on with a rica nothing nothing
Starting point is 01:59:12 um yeah so that they're making a new fighter guys and i would love yeah and you know what the prospect of like the 2018 street fighter 5 or even the hd4 to 4
Starting point is 01:59:23 sure whatever hd4 to 4 is coming to the bc sure and something slick is going to be coming wait sorry hd4 to 4 yeah
Starting point is 01:59:33 he means because the terminology of hd is becoming incredibly weird we don't have a thing yet so he means ps4 expo version of that well whenever that happens
Starting point is 01:59:42 because of course that was the point he said we don't have a cash watch it be a fucking like psn slash xbla game sure sure all of it for 20 bucks
Starting point is 01:59:51 all my money yeah no 20 bucks of your money which is worth it oh absolutely we've already dumped like a thousand dollars in the street fighter
Starting point is 01:59:59 especially since now you can apparently use anything on an x bone yes say what because the dudes plugged in a madcatch 360 stick
Starting point is 02:00:08 into the killer instinct demo booth worse and it fucking works and once people started fucking with dual shocks and realizing
Starting point is 02:00:17 that you can plug a dual shock 4 and like fucking anything the likelihood of a dual shock 3 working on a ps4 is super likely so now that the cat is out of the bag
Starting point is 02:00:26 and running for its life I feel really good about buying all those arcade sticks this means this means that if on day one I can plug my canva in
Starting point is 02:00:35 no no no you gotta get the inverse of this story stop what if on day one it suddenly doesn't work because they flipped the switch it's because they caught
Starting point is 02:00:44 the cat and cut its head off oh I'm worried about my cat where's your cat making those and making those lose
Starting point is 02:00:52 that's such a huge pussy you see what I did there so what the fuck and then you put it back in the bag we're worrying about the cat ruining everything and now we're yelling at the cat
Starting point is 02:01:00 for not coming out where are you cat what's his name what we'll see we'll let the fans decide is it chogo it's not chogo
Starting point is 02:01:08 if you guys think that we should name the cat chogo send in an email to the podcast people of ardy's later and have every word
Starting point is 02:01:16 in the email be chogo people of ardy's send xelotath people of ardy's send it's not a name luca
Starting point is 02:01:24 let's not get into kevin alright and the last thing is hey guess who's confirmed for ex-herd not biking you know right
Starting point is 02:01:32 what they and they you know oh yeah foust confirmed foust is sick though how can you not be hyped about foust
Starting point is 02:01:40 yeah foust dude like biking's coming foust is the character that I saw like the first time I ever saw guilty gear
Starting point is 02:01:48 but what the fuck it's this there were like there are they were at least they were there well abba you know it wasn't that trailer
Starting point is 02:01:56 yeah well that's quick shot quick shot how am I feeling johnny's not gonna be in it no johnny's gonna be in it why I don't know
Starting point is 02:02:04 but I forgot cause maize in it why would johnny like it's guilty gear's a weird series cause you go well who's not gonna be in it
Starting point is 02:02:12 and somebody says somebody can go no tons of people like that character like judgment the only the only character judgment or do you mean justice
Starting point is 02:02:20 I think he means testament testament I mean testament because judgment is actually a character I'm aware the judgment is he the guy in the armor that's the
Starting point is 02:02:28 that's the psp only one yeah that game's not good yeah I'm aware yeah that guy what does he look like again he just has a bunch of weird like new 13 things
Starting point is 02:02:36 exactly he's not in I get I could see angi-meato but also testament slayer sire school though but
Starting point is 02:02:45 and we haven't seen any new characters yet which there will surely be oh of course potemkin's basically new yeah angi-meato won't be there because bang shi shigami
Starting point is 02:02:53 is gonna be yes pa pa pa pa well no chip is in the game so bang's in the game exactly as long as chip's in the game I'm happy
Starting point is 02:03:02 I love chip me too potemkin's my favorite we'll record a match between my potemkin and his chip and it'll be the dumbest looking match ever
Starting point is 02:03:10 sure like that dumb ass fucking blaze blue match we had yeah but I was litchy I forget who you were as always
Starting point is 02:03:18 I know you were doing another woman then I don't care well whatever we saved the match it was the worst match of all time yeah we showed it to you and you're belly laughing
Starting point is 02:03:27 the most plausible character new character is sin yeah which sucks cause I don't like get ready for flag combos wow that's cool actually
Starting point is 02:03:37 that sentence is cool there was a fighting game thing I meant to tell you today woolly bit like well I guess we'll get to talk about it next week
Starting point is 02:03:47 cause it happens on Thursday but IGN knowing how badly that Microsoft must be angry at them for fucking up that initial killer instinct free to play thing
Starting point is 02:03:57 IGN is hosting a two hour live stream of everything else that's in the game orchid accessories the HD version of the original
Starting point is 02:04:06 killer instinct as like we're so sorry we're sorry twitch stream yeah and two hours of that and then after that
Starting point is 02:04:14 Microsoft will have the stream of the game nice and apparently that's when Spinal will get revealed cause this happens on Thursday which is you know
Starting point is 02:04:22 Halloween I like the idea of them doing the stream and just filthy rich off stage just staring at them arms crossed you know
Starting point is 02:04:30 I'm no big fan of killer instinct you've said as such I'm no big fan of the current Microsoft I think Microsoft the smartest thing they've done
Starting point is 02:04:39 the whole thing is like corner the entire fighting game market with the fact that they're the only people coming out with a fighting game at launch
Starting point is 02:04:47 my back is against the wall yeah absolutely I think that bloody roar sony rumor would have been the fucking greatest thing
Starting point is 02:04:55 in the world I would have been so happy do you like bloody roar I love bloody roar me too thank you stun the insect for life here's the thing
Starting point is 02:05:03 I would have loved to see bloody roar come back here's the thing I don't like bloody roar I like stun the insect along with tiger those dudes are cool that's what I like
Starting point is 02:05:11 I told you when everyone else was playing awesome ps2 fighting games I was playing bloody roar primal fury I'm a game gamer for hours
Starting point is 02:05:19 I was putting the demo of two with only those two characters bloody roar I was fine bloody roar 2 is my favorite best
Starting point is 02:05:27 worst fighting game it is I have had I have never had more fun with something that is clearly not good no the bloody roar games
Starting point is 02:05:35 are the epitome of good fighting I got a copy of bloody roar 2 for a birthday years ago and yeah sure it didn't work very well
Starting point is 02:05:43 and it barely loaded but I got it yeah good bad games we popped in one to mess around for scrublers one time
Starting point is 02:05:51 we popped in primal fury because a couple of people were like yeah play primal fury but it's like it's a really good bloody roar why do we do it
Starting point is 02:05:59 the only thing bad about bloody roar is that it should still be called beasterizer right when I played in the arcades
Starting point is 02:06:07 I forgot the bloody roar was in the arcades the whole beasterizer yes but no we popped in and were like ah this is a bit too fun
Starting point is 02:06:15 and then we just played for the next two hours yeah for two hours it was great you can't scrub this you really can well we can because you can put
Starting point is 02:06:23 all these crazy auctions in the game that are instant ring out some big heads and it made the game really dumb I picked the grappler girl and did her extended
Starting point is 02:06:31 like king style combo and then that was the night alright we're done it was Marvel or whatever the leopard girl big tough girl yeah
Starting point is 02:06:40 anime news I miss you bloody roar yo toonami ponied up and they're gonna be airing space dandy that's nuts
Starting point is 02:06:48 and dubbed right in january plague told me like plague told me yeah it was weird the dandiest man in the space it's so good
Starting point is 02:06:56 it's awesome we really are going back to space we're going back to space and boy is it dandy that's really good news because I was not expecting not only that to like
Starting point is 02:07:07 hit stateside so quickly but before japan that was the part of the announcement that got me they're pulling a crunchy roll and they're airing it before japan
Starting point is 02:07:17 that's what the toonami thing said they're airing it here before japan that's really cool so between that and you know like the bits of killer kill
Starting point is 02:07:25 and stuff it's like we're starting to see an industry where really really cool shit is getting delivered to your doorstep why not
Starting point is 02:07:33 that makes sense business wise it's better than the outdated plans they had where it was like we'll make it and we'll sell DVDs at 80 bucks for two episodes
Starting point is 02:07:41 a year and a half later why wait for pioneers plus genie in why wait for you know whatever companies to pick it up oh I don't mean that
Starting point is 02:07:49 I mean domestically oh yeah they make a show and they sell two episodes for 80 bucks in japan they're retarded level prices oh yeah for sure but I mean like
Starting point is 02:07:57 no here when you have the the DVDs packed and boxes or whatever it's like if the Japanese company can just give to someone else
Starting point is 02:08:05 directly digitally or better why not absolutely kept the middle man that being said we still need to start up our kickstarter
Starting point is 02:08:13 to raise funds for us to buy the blue ray of gurren login and then your rewards will tell you how awesome it is the top level reward
Starting point is 02:08:21 is we will Skype with you after we've watched it and be like whoa that was awesome no you can't watch it no wait can I Skype with you
Starting point is 02:08:29 while you watch it no after we're done after we've cleaned up I only paid 50k the really big gurren login fan at work and I were talking about
Starting point is 02:08:37 the crazy ultimate set and how like we can't walk by this in real life yeah if it's in real life
Starting point is 02:08:46 you will do something you will do something and like you will destroy a month's rent and that and that fear is ruling you on life
Starting point is 02:08:54 you can cut off in some countries like you might just take it I live in fear of seeing that out of the corner of my body you're looking
Starting point is 02:09:02 and the shopkeeper you're a big tough guy and you're like okay I can grab it I can get 10 feet away and kill me but I had it in my head the kind of situation
Starting point is 02:09:10 where you'd see it and it's like free and the guy standing next to it you're like is it really free he's like
Starting point is 02:09:18 yeah if I get to inject you with all this aids and you'd be like oh oh and you'd be reaching out and you're like
Starting point is 02:09:26 no stop I can't stop and just because we got a a bit of a bummer Edna Kraboppel yeah
Starting point is 02:09:34 she died that sucks that sucks what sucks is that when I actually saw that picture of her I'm like aww she looks like a fun crazy lady
Starting point is 02:09:42 who's like love stuff she in real life she went yeah that's the lady I was just telling Pat about one of the best jokes
Starting point is 02:09:50 ever in The Simpsons is Edna Kraboppel and Principal Skinner telling the community about like was the teachers strike and it's like but it's your children's future
Starting point is 02:10:00 hey listen in a fantasy world if we're going to like you know enrich our child's lives and the money it's going to require more taxes
Starting point is 02:10:08 aww no the taxes are too high girls no the taxes are too high come on aww yeah no that's a good point that's a good point
Starting point is 02:10:16 Principal Skinner rubs his fingers together yeah yeah he's doing the finger thing that means taxes the finger thing means the taxes
Starting point is 02:10:24 come on come on oh it's the tax aww it's the best like Edna Kraboppel to me is one of the greatest teacher characters
Starting point is 02:10:32 of all time she's the realest teacher ever really do as I mean not as I say or do in some cases yeah no because
Starting point is 02:10:42 well yeah they were in the closet and they were making babies and then the baby came out and the baby looked at me the baby looked at you I love that episode
Starting point is 02:10:50 it's okay yeah that's all so that sucks that she does I mean they said they're going to retire the character I mean well good
Starting point is 02:10:58 yeah how about you retire the series yeah I was going to say since we were still talking about animation I finally caught up
Starting point is 02:11:08 with the rest of Hajime no Ippo and we're talking about how cool the underwater I will bring you down underwater and then like
Starting point is 02:11:16 that fight kind of was like at the end it's fine like if you guys want to check it out though you check out episode 3 is one of the most like
Starting point is 02:11:24 does he fight the bear there's no fighting and that's what's actually refreshing romance rama one half type shit yeah with boxing it was a really good episode
Starting point is 02:11:33 it feels like a show from another era yeah it really does it does it's quite refreshing from the olden days before everything
Starting point is 02:11:41 everything or the other like before the fall before the internet significant anime thing I can think of Madoka movie came out just this weekend
Starting point is 02:11:49 what is happening this week I can't wait because it's coming to Theors in North America thanks to WTV Madoka did you bite me I didn't
Starting point is 02:11:59 you touched my mouth with your arm and that's the time Pat didn't even mean to do it this week on The Matte Watch The Matte Watch
Starting point is 02:12:08 I am currently like really interested in a girl named Natasha Allegri who it has why did that sound super familiar because she has
Starting point is 02:12:17 a kickstarter right now for an awesome new show called B & Poppy Cat oh yeah wait a second oh I know her
Starting point is 02:12:25 she drew Ben and Jake and Fiona and Kate yeah she worked on a lot of Adventure Time and she has a show she wants to
Starting point is 02:12:33 pitch a cartoon network I saw that yeah baby it's hilarious yeah I saw it it's awesome it's super funny and like maybe we'll do
Starting point is 02:12:41 a little quick video thing to say guys because the last time I looked it's kind of it's like the opposite of Adventure Time but weirder I feel like it's like
Starting point is 02:12:49 a bit more it's jointed Adventure Time does it it's way weirder I still am preferential to Adventure Time but it's really cute in a lot of good ways
Starting point is 02:12:57 because I liked it because the same thing as Kill the Kill where Beach gets a transforming sequence she goes no
Starting point is 02:13:05 no no no and she truly doesn't want to have a costume but if you guys check it out I'm sure we'll put in the show notes
Starting point is 02:13:13 for the kickstarter but I thought it was like super hilarious remind me though because the show notes are already written yeah
Starting point is 02:13:21 okay I'm reminding you to put it in the show notes and just say how like Greatest Warriors not much traction on that no not really
Starting point is 02:13:29 it's like it's alright I don't know it's just more generic than an adventure time yeah I just you're going backwards it just doesn't have the spark
Starting point is 02:13:37 I don't mind it it's alright we all don't mind it but you not minding it is not the same are you going to mind the greatest warriors game when Adventure Time
Starting point is 02:13:45 comes out what's what I'm saying is it going to be made by way forward but I'm just saying would you yeah see it just doesn't have
Starting point is 02:13:53 the spark it doesn't resonate it would be better if the Bravest Warriors came out first yeah exactly it's like
Starting point is 02:14:01 when you meet a girl and you're like you know I should like this girl but yeah no Bravest Warriors is like a step backwards and being puppy cat
Starting point is 02:14:09 is like a weird step sideways yeah it's not it's not worse it's distinctly different I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out
Starting point is 02:14:17 that Pendleton like somehow created that series in high school I want to I don't want that at all
Starting point is 02:14:25 where all it is is her adventures okay cause then you'll get sick of it no I won't yes you will you put any character that you love
Starting point is 02:14:33 and you put it exclusively you'll get some I'm still I'm still I'm still I'm still I'm still waiting for my
Starting point is 02:14:41 Johnny the homicidal maniac animated series that's never gonna get that just watch Ren and Stimpy same thing
Starting point is 02:14:49 I can't watch Ren and Stimpy to watch yeah oh yeah we mentioned that I was telling a story about how the first time
Starting point is 02:14:57 I watched Ren and Stimpy as a kid it just scared the fucking shit out of me and he just goes me too absolutely if you watched any
Starting point is 02:15:05 of the John Krifoulouski episodes those are the ones that are made for fucking children up all the all the all the
Starting point is 02:15:13 all the all the all the all the all the all the all the yeah
Starting point is 02:15:22 Yeah Ren and Stimpy is horrifying yeah fuck I would like to forget that Fry did both voices
Starting point is 02:15:32 Oh wow whoa I didn't know that Well but you're ruining my life no but he only did it after John Kay left yeah
Starting point is 02:15:41 well because John Kay was originally the voice of Stimpy no Ren sorry and they pissed him off
Starting point is 02:15:49 and he um due to super talented Billy West so he took over yo what I think that it might be
Starting point is 02:15:56 the time that we do the letters oh the letters the emails the letter time if you want to mail a letter to us
Starting point is 02:16:04 don't don't instead email it to superbestfriendcast at gmail.com I'm gonna need you to repeat that
Starting point is 02:16:12 one more time okay you can't put letters into the email but you can type an email you can send it to
Starting point is 02:16:20 superbestfriendcast at gmail.com yeah then take your stamps that you bought like a loser and fuck off no
Starting point is 02:16:28 why did you stick it to stamps stamps are great what the hell who who are you what's with this level of weird vitriol
Starting point is 02:16:36 towards postage we don't watch your snail mail I want the post office to get something like do you want some Superman stamps
Starting point is 02:16:44 it was like no man it still was awful because the postman is like what no this is the girl that gives you your package that you missed
Starting point is 02:16:53 what's a Superman not only she was like I agree it was awful not only is there no time there's never been less time oh boy what do we got
Starting point is 02:17:02 email lines yeah so Dylan asks you say Dylan son of a bitch thank you you set us up
Starting point is 02:17:11 no that's wrong no it's so good oh wait you set us up it was bullshit all of it gotta say over the last few weeks I love listening to your
Starting point is 02:17:19 discussion about shows like Breaking Bad and the Wire and I know you guys love Game of Thrones too are there any other shows that you guys are huge fans of that you'd recommend looking forward to your suggestions
Starting point is 02:17:30 Rome Rome I'm saying Rome okay yes good because I was gonna say like if we're gonna do if we're gonna say those three things then we have to keep it in the
Starting point is 02:17:38 vein of hour long drama drama Luther is awesome Luther is good yeah uh boss is really fucking good
Starting point is 02:17:47 there's Kelsey Grammer playing the mayor of Boston as a shitbag yeah it's really good that sounds accurate yeah a similar
Starting point is 02:17:56 similar scenario is House of Cards with Kevin Spacey yeah playing a politician on the White House in the White House who's also a shitbag
Starting point is 02:18:05 so really good actors being shitbags for politics the future of drama is your main character is a fucking piece of shit that's the twist yeah
Starting point is 02:18:13 um I don't really watch much TV at all shocking never really have um if I had to recommend a show like the early seasons of
Starting point is 02:18:21 community like it's such a everyone's watched it thing but the early seasons of community I would advise you to stop watching at the end of season two
Starting point is 02:18:29 yeah but I'm giving them strictly I'm giving them the point to stop yeah I'll give you the cutoff exactly it really drops off
Starting point is 02:18:37 the cutoff is exactly at I'd say the paintball episode yeah that's definitely HBO's Rome Rome is fucking great
Starting point is 02:18:46 man porn is good yeah watch Rome it's not porn it's HBO it's basically porn well there's that fucking
Starting point is 02:18:54 skit on whatever I think it's college humor where it's like like these people go for auditions are like and then I rip my tits out and then
Starting point is 02:19:02 he jacks off everywhere and everyone's like oh my god you're doing what what's this job no no no it's not porn it's HBO
Starting point is 02:19:10 and they're like actually I want to backtrack on this because whenever I go to the country with my redneck family we watch Pawn Stars
Starting point is 02:19:19 and Duck Dynasty and those things are fucking great Pawn Stars is pretty fun if you're gonna throw Duck Dynasty's great if you're gonna throw if you're gonna throw Pawn Stars
Starting point is 02:19:27 in there I'm gonna reiterate that Mythbusters is the best show to watch in huge birds it's really consumable yeah
Starting point is 02:19:35 yeah you know what the newsroom if you haven't seen the newsroom you should check that out Aaron Sorkin I really dropped off on that I was told that was
Starting point is 02:19:43 super super good I watched the first two and then inexplicably stopped me too but like that opener if that opener doesn't catch you that's pretty good
Starting point is 02:19:51 then like then you hate Aaron Sorkin too mad plus Jeff Daniels is always awesome exactly James asks hey James what's up
Starting point is 02:19:59 uh no we don't know where the dream cast is sorry okay sure I was thinking like
Starting point is 02:20:07 Pokemon for some reason Jesse and James that episode with you and the fake tits getting removed was bullshit he never stopped talking about that episode
Starting point is 02:20:15 it's the only thing worth mentioning there's tons of crap that was Pokemon there's the one where Porygon killed all those kids yeah one two uh
Starting point is 02:20:23 do you believe that fan service can only detract from an experience in video games or anime or is it possible to add to an experience oh totally he goes on
Starting point is 02:20:31 and he has a few more details but the point is basically that like good or bad fan service like does he mean
Starting point is 02:20:39 general fan service or tits male female fan service I'm not being gender specific of course though it's clear that there is way more fan service
Starting point is 02:20:47 of the ladies than the guys um I probably play the games with the most fan service I don't think
Starting point is 02:20:55 that it adds anything I think everything is always 100% context sensitive yeah
Starting point is 02:21:03 and I like don't think I could really name a game fan service helps I can name some games where it doesn't
Starting point is 02:21:11 hinder it like near where Kine being the way she is doesn't hinder it but I wouldn't say it helps per se um
Starting point is 02:21:19 night trap it really helps night trap wow what do you need but you can't think of any other games like honestly
Starting point is 02:21:27 like a CD game I know that's what you mean but like the drunk I'm gonna go ahead and say that 9 times out of 10 personally I feel it's a
Starting point is 02:21:35 hindrance they could have been classy here but they didn't because they wanted to make an appeal for like a cheap get totally
Starting point is 02:21:43 and sometimes it does make sense but it's rare when it does I find what Kill La Kill is doing is a bit odd because they're
Starting point is 02:21:51 referencing it themselves they're almost trying to laugh at it while they're doing it and I find that the art style though doesn't
Starting point is 02:21:59 make it sexy I think especially that fourth episode or proportions get really wacky and Mako when she pulls up her shirt
Starting point is 02:22:07 and you see like under boob and you're like but that's just a fucking cartoon this looks like South Park you know what I mean
Starting point is 02:22:15 awesome it's not really anything when it does bleed overflowing with boners I feel it generally though detracts
Starting point is 02:22:23 and I feel like as long as the games industry is gonna be continually sensitive and attentive to these types
Starting point is 02:22:31 of issues nowadays games like Dragon's Crown games it's almost always bad I feel like Kill a Kill and Bayonetta
Starting point is 02:22:39 are two really good examples where if you took out the sexuality you'd have to replace it with something and you know obviously people are gonna yell
Starting point is 02:22:47 but you could replace it with something constructive and you know you could you could replace it with something constructive all day that was the
Starting point is 02:22:55 that was the design choice they went with and in Kill a Kill and Bayonetta's case it's fine it's good for it yeah
Starting point is 02:23:03 it makes a cool exciting character that I've seen tons of girls love it makes Bayonetta a million girls that love Bayonetta yeah
Starting point is 02:23:11 and somehow Bayonetta doesn't strike me as like it doesn't handle it as bad as like Onachan Barrett
Starting point is 02:23:19 the reason why is that because in Bayonetta Bayonetta is the sexual predator yeah she is the she is the one
Starting point is 02:23:27 with like she's always has the lollipop with the lollipop it's tiny okay there's the hot dude
Starting point is 02:23:35 who's going no Bayonetta don't touch me and just like get over here so I can get some of that right
Starting point is 02:23:43 Bayo is the is the character in control and her taking her clothes off is like look at this
Starting point is 02:23:51 shit you motherfuckers right right whereas in Dead or Alive it's you peering through
Starting point is 02:23:59 the bushes at 18 year old there's some games that just wouldn't be there's some games that just wouldn't be complete without it like
Starting point is 02:24:07 ray play but you went for the big joke no of course I respect I respect the balls
Starting point is 02:24:15 on this plate oh podcast is over we're all going to jail we're all going to jail I can't believe what I was going to say was even I can't believe
Starting point is 02:24:23 I can't believe even games like hyperdimension neptunia which I do play I think it's fucking it's too much
Starting point is 02:24:31 no it's just it's too much it's awful there's a thing like correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think at any point
Starting point is 02:24:39 Beyo's jiggling anywhere um maybe jiggle I feel jiggle is a particular type of like like did you have to go there
Starting point is 02:24:47 no I think briefly Beyo's sexuality is always kind of demonstrating the way she walks yeah sure
Starting point is 02:24:55 with the cat walk walk always I mean wonder pink has a bunch of people in here and there but I was going to say after I watched
Starting point is 02:25:03 an episode of Hajime no Ippo I saw some other like little thumbnail and it said I want to be the strongest in the world
Starting point is 02:25:11 like what is this I click on it and what it is is an idle girl idle girl I read the description of that so bad
Starting point is 02:25:19 I read the worst the first three seconds is like a girl jiggling and then she gets thrown on the floor she gets
Starting point is 02:25:27 thrown into like I see another fight and there's no cool animation there's no like well fan service okay but do you at least have a cool rustling match
Starting point is 02:25:35 you don't stop talking about vanguard princess you see everyone stop talking you thought the same thing I did because the title I thought like
Starting point is 02:25:43 a sexy Hajime no Ippo with girls and it was just a sexy Iken is it and it's terrible the one where they're just
Starting point is 02:25:51 like flesh blobs boobing everywhere size wide like what is that terrible terrible what's the one called
Starting point is 02:25:59 Senran Senran Kagura yeah that's the worst no Iken is the worst Iken is the worst I want to cover the world in Iken's boobs well that's the best quote
Starting point is 02:26:07 that's the director saying well my favorite fucking thing was Harada from Tekken saying I really want to go out and buy it but I don't want people seeing me buy it
Starting point is 02:26:15 Harada knows what's what what's that game what's the fucking game with the the boo pinching oh fuck stretch panic
Starting point is 02:26:23 stretch panic the treasure game yeah man it's so silly like it's not yeah you look at it you don't even want to say
Starting point is 02:26:31 it's really not what you think it is it's not what you think it's like a funny sexy kind of catamari but it's not sexy at all
Starting point is 02:26:39 but the one is he's sexy like fine like like these weird big boob girls are only weird in a creepy way because the little girl you're playing sees older
Starting point is 02:26:47 women like that they're not attractive so to close it out in games and anime like 90% of the time are like pretty bad 95
Starting point is 02:26:55 like I could respect you more if you didn't do this yeah the only thing I'd say is that in project cross zone
Starting point is 02:27:03 when the sexy characters have their sexy animations like it makes sense for them but I can't remember because I never play the game because it's so fucking boring yeah
Starting point is 02:27:12 but does anyone remember Chun Li or characters that shouldn't really be doing that well I'm going to go ahead and say it doesn't make sense and she raised her arms
Starting point is 02:27:20 and like and it doesn't make why why does cosmos is the character of like I don't agree with that because Zeno Saga did that
Starting point is 02:27:28 yeah oh it did yeah and in Zeno Saga it's creepy there so they're fan servicing yeah exactly the games
Starting point is 02:27:36 fan service so cosmos is ruined forever yeah oh totally because no one played Zeno Saga 2 or 3 one of my favorite look
Starting point is 02:27:45 quite simply one of my favorite female characters of all time is the boss boss is the best she is the most non sexual like female character
Starting point is 02:27:53 in video games totally and even to the point where her shirt is open and you're looking at her breasts and you're like nothing
Starting point is 02:28:01 sex is the hardest thing there's nothing but respect yeah without a doubt and that is why yeah like every time I think of that I just go
Starting point is 02:28:09 this is what games can do he did a good thing that Kojima yeah uh Jacob asks good question by the way
Starting point is 02:28:17 to whoever that was it was a good question that was those James that was James soon Jacob that was topical
Starting point is 02:28:25 Jacob asks Pokemon's big road have you guys ever considered doing more best friends watch? uh we have considered
Starting point is 02:28:33 we have considered that several times and companies keep telling us we can't do that it always blows up in our face and then we
Starting point is 02:28:41 we all go hey we should do this and then we start to do it and then yeah it does we'll gladly do it
Starting point is 02:28:49 when we stop getting told to fuck off I'd say there's maybe one two games where it's probably okay to do that
Starting point is 02:28:57 and that's it like I can't think of anymore you've got to realize guys that if we fuck up we all lose our jobs so we don't really
Starting point is 02:29:05 lose our jobs because we lose our jobs for a couple days we could either lose our jobs for a couple days or
Starting point is 02:29:13 we can actually ask you know the powers of B do you think this is okay to be very rare
Starting point is 02:29:21 like I mean literally one or two gonna go behind the curtain here guys and say that we tried to play a game that was basically a watch yeah
Starting point is 02:29:29 the powers of B shut that one down the powers of B were certainly wrathful about that thanks Capcom well wait a fucking
Starting point is 02:29:37 minute jeez Matt and I are dancing elegantly in seven piece suits if you say the words going behind the curtain
Starting point is 02:29:45 the curtain's gonna get pulled back a little bit uh yeah well fuck then Azura's Wrath is not gonna happen guys
Starting point is 02:29:53 sorry so we just go ahead we did we tried to do that we sat down and did as soon as you upload
Starting point is 02:30:01 Azura's Wrath Capcom tells you you can't do it but more than that how much of Azura's Wrath did you do for the channel what do you mean
Starting point is 02:30:09 did you play through an entire time before the game and I recorded it and then Pat and Woolly were like
Starting point is 02:30:17 you don't want to see it again where I deleted it and we were like and that was two years ago and that was two years ago and then before we could even really do it
Starting point is 02:30:25 and then we sat down and did it again and then YouTube said no and hell fucking no actually YouTube said that Capcom said no no so guess what guys
Starting point is 02:30:33 no Azura's Wrath ever but attempts were made uh spoiler alert we didn't like it very much and we took a lot of time
Starting point is 02:30:42 to explain why yes so what for all of those that are glad right now to see way to hype up the thing that no one will ever see
Starting point is 02:30:50 that's it I mean me and Pat just sat there and described why these hype things were not hype yeah hey you know
Starting point is 02:30:58 the whole thing can be broken down and that we played the first two hours of Azura's Wrath and we're sitting there going man you know it's better
Starting point is 02:31:06 than this current login but why Pat why is that because current login was better but would that be because they didn't
Starting point is 02:31:14 start in space that's pretty much it escalation of surprise it almost spiraled forward rather than go over the fucking plane spiral you might say like the theme of
Starting point is 02:31:25 okay that's a little taste of what you'll never see no that's not a little taste that's literally the entire experience ball down into 80 seconds
Starting point is 02:31:33 alright next question what is the next question uh the next question is gonna come from that game is bad don't play it or watch it
Starting point is 02:31:41 hey hey you want it to move on did you guys animate no shut up those are even worse we'll take one more question from Cameron
Starting point is 02:31:50 and he just straight up wants to know yo guys how much show prep is involved in making the podcast oh I don't know
Starting point is 02:31:58 fully and I'll say all week exactly where I'm gathering little bits and pieces of news and then Matt
Starting point is 02:32:06 and I and Liam are going sending you messages going hey check this thing out and you go I'm not putting that in and like
Starting point is 02:32:14 you break into this like yeah but most of the work comes immediately after this where I'm gonna race home like in two hours and yes and I'm gonna
Starting point is 02:32:22 and I'm gonna fucking get this live footage that we're recording now and convert it and put it up online and get everything prepped in the next like six hours or so
Starting point is 02:32:30 it's really hard and then tomorrow hit a button yeah yeah that's it so I kill myself for the night of
Starting point is 02:32:38 and then the rest is fine how much work is in prep is involved in doing a shit storm in the game so like well console PC break it down
Starting point is 02:32:46 okay PC I recently started using DXTory with the Lager with Lossless Codec it works great so setup time on that is now almost nothing beforehand
Starting point is 02:32:54 beforehand and when I was using Fraps and MSI Afterburner I would have to do it like it tests over and over does this record does it work
Starting point is 02:33:03 how big is this file really fucking huge and it would like I don't know half an hour of pre-test get all the settings right on PC so that's like
Starting point is 02:33:13 half an hour figure out like what gay I don't know right before sitting down for a new thing half an hour to 45 minutes the first time
Starting point is 02:33:23 before sitting down for a new thing like an hour and a half well all factors combined yeah unlike a console like a few 360 and Wii U
Starting point is 02:33:32 there's like almost nothing you really have to check on the PS3 there's a little bit of stuff there's some stuff make sure I think like on the PS2
Starting point is 02:33:40 we have to be careful of like transitions and loading screens now but now you're near new disc based recorder all the time yeah DVD recorder can do it whatever
Starting point is 02:33:49 which is a pain in the ass you gotta set the DVDs up yeah it really is honestly I think when it comes to videos you've got like fairly light post work
Starting point is 02:33:58 with a bunch of pre-work you know sometimes depending on the game if you have weird like usually it's like an hour of pre-setup
Starting point is 02:34:07 and like five, six hours of post okay I'm including render time yeah so and upload time whereas podcast is like
Starting point is 02:34:16 you know like whatever little bits and pieces of the news we're reading all week do I have the list yeah but the post work is fucking enormous
Starting point is 02:34:24 it's ridiculous because I have to do quality conversions I have to like go back in and get the actual basically listen to the whole thing listen to the whole thing
Starting point is 02:34:32 listen to the weird bits and it's like 10 o'clock 11 o'clock at night and that's the point where I'm rendering that comparing the post for the website yeah the post for the Facebook
Starting point is 02:34:40 the YouTube trailer all that stuff somebody asked hey guys can you make timing annotations for when you talk about things no and I was like
Starting point is 02:34:48 are you fucking kidding me when we get somebody whose job that is sure get out of here right the rest of us are busy jeez
Starting point is 02:34:56 anyway it's hard but yeah that's basically it you know yeah a machinima episode just really quickly
Starting point is 02:35:04 gotta get plague super fast super fast have to like find the game have to make machinima know what it is
Starting point is 02:35:12 have to make all the annotations and now since we do more live action stuff have to figure out how to get live action bits inside of the starter at the end like the injustice video
Starting point is 02:35:22 took a fucking while and because I all know that you're burning with curiosity a typical episode of fight or pedia it's the reason why it's not on the air anymore yeah
Starting point is 02:35:32 but like my top 10 took like 20 hours to make so any complexity in the video balloons it exponentially and my top 10 Liam's top 10
Starting point is 02:35:42 like I worked on those for a while yeah I did it one day which was tough it was tough don't do that yeah you know
Starting point is 02:35:50 I'm gonna do it again this year you know even the the Titan video like I put the little bits and pieces to make it feel right your stuff should take time yeah and we were lucky
Starting point is 02:35:58 that we split the JoJo and Titan videos between us where I got it in its pristine format and then you just had to add the forces but both of those
Starting point is 02:36:06 took a while you remember dive kick that took like 8 straight hours before editing just to get all the footage and honestly
Starting point is 02:36:14 and when I went home after we did the Pacific Rim video yeah like that intro to the Pacific Rim video that gave me like feels of
Starting point is 02:36:23 fight or pedia again yeah no because it had that type of images while we're talking sequences going and I went man oh man
Starting point is 02:36:31 I'm getting nostalgic fuck this bullshit never again it's too hard too much work shockingly we actually have to do stuff what's coming up on the channel I was coming on the channel
Starting point is 02:36:40 the end of the shit storm is coming yeah I was just gonna say that but no it was when well you looked at me you look like actually we know exactly when the day before November 1st
Starting point is 02:36:50 exactly and spoilers and oh yeah Pat just talked about maybe we should talk about what's happening because November 1st
Starting point is 02:36:58 is before the next podcast so we're gonna do four more shit storm no wait that's counting today so three more there'll be games
Starting point is 02:37:06 that people have asked us to play at least one case yes and then on November 1st Matt, Woolly and I will be putting up the first part
Starting point is 02:37:16 of the new ongoing let's play which will be beyond two super best friends play beyond two souls you all wanted it you're gonna get it
Starting point is 02:37:25 backed by popular demand but we don't want it though the end of the sadness trilogy it will be there I'm really disappointed that there was no place in beyond two souls to put a name
Starting point is 02:37:35 and have it be sadness yeah I know but whatever so you really I thought you guys were gonna wait for the reveal but you're gonna break it out a little because
Starting point is 02:37:43 we'd rather people know it's coming on November 1st than be surprised maybe we won't get death threats anymore maybe we won't get death threats from people
Starting point is 02:37:51 saying do an LP because we got a death threat from someone on YouTube message saying I'll have you fucking killed because you guys just did beyond two souls
Starting point is 02:37:59 for a mission which is ridiculous because we were already doing the LP don't tell us to do what we were already doing right you were so like
Starting point is 02:38:07 we have to get it out there so that he wasn't right he didn't like force it you didn't do it anyway yeah yeah I wanted to do it for me also if anyone's interested arts and crafts
Starting point is 02:38:17 stay tuned to the channel this week I can't believe you have to stay tuned to the channel stay tuned to the channel arts and crafts man I think that about covers
Starting point is 02:38:26 everything pretty much people are gonna be so mad about Azura's Wrath oh so mad you're getting there again beyond two souls yeah I know
Starting point is 02:38:34 I know which is interesting yeah but like there's a couple of are you better than Azura's Wrath it
Starting point is 02:38:44 yes stop we don't know yeah we didn't say anything oh you didn't finish it no but they're coming there like some people were like
Starting point is 02:38:52 oh you guys should release things like rift tracks maybe and stuff and it's like like for MGS4 rift tracks there's a guy that was just the cut scenes
Starting point is 02:39:00 there's no gameplay there it wouldn't work what are you thinking you know like I'd like to do a rift track someday but it's like I don't like they already did rift tracks
Starting point is 02:39:08 and they did it perfectly I want to just do that yeah yeah yeah we would do it if we all went to space though let's go back to space

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